Police Detective Breaks Down The Buffalo Public Schools Investigation | Unsubscribe Podcast 256

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:25Speaker 01

  What an appropriate juxtaposition there. The FC files the Buffalo Public Schools. Release the Buffalo files.

• 0:31The Fat Electrician?

  It literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the [bleep] lawyers.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  What?

• 0:35Speaker 03

  You, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools, are intentionally obstructing investigations into the abduction of children.

• 0:43Speaker 01

  Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart. Yeah, get ready for round two.

• 0:49Speaker 04

  Say hi to Eli. He's racially ambiguous and random. His hair is fucking fabulous and donut. A dark oak disposition and there's a fat electrician. Welcome to unsubscribe.

• 1:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, no shit, right? Welcome to the absolute-

• 1:11Speaker 01

  You're about to get eddranched in the mouth.

• 1:13Speaker 05

  That poor guy just will never talk shit about a podcast ever again.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  He can get dranched.

• 1:18The Fat Electrician?

  Three, two, one.

• 1:23Speaker 05

  Foul on three.

• 1:25Speaker 03

  Hi, everyone. Welcome to the Unsubscribe Podcast, aka the Absolutely Foul Podcast. We are joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick the Fat Electrician, Rich Angry Cops, and myself, Donut Operator. Thank you for joining.

• 1:38Speaker 05

  Donut, thank you for having us. Thanks, Cody. Brandon is busy with his election right now and-

• 1:43Speaker 03

  I had to step in, you know.

• 1:45Speaker 05

  We're super excited to see how that goes for him.

• 1:47The Fat Electrician?

  This is our last, our last podcast with normal civilian Brandon Herrera, probably.

• 1:53Speaker 03

  Oh, no, we've got a long ways to go.

• 1:56The Fat Electrician?

  I don't believe you.

• 1:56Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, at the bare minimum, January.

• 1:59Speaker 05

  District 23.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Dog branded.

• 2:02Speaker 03

  All right, we can't do that. We can't.

• 2:07Speaker 01

  Cut that part.

• 2:07Speaker 03

  No, we cannot.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  Two seconds.

• 2:11Speaker 03

  You sick as. We just bleep all of what you said and then like, you can't do that.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  I like that. It's true. Today, we have an update because in the last couple of weeks.

• 2:21Speaker 03

  What was released, Mr. Rich?

• 2:23Speaker 01

  Oh, the findings of the law, not law enforcement, but the, uh, oh geez, what's it called?

• 2:29The Fat Electrician?

  Investigation.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know the investigation, but the investigation was run by whom?

• 2:33The Fat Electrician?

  A law firm.

• 2:33Speaker 01

  Law firm.

• 2:34The Fat Electrician?

  Independent investigator.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, an independent investigator hired by the Buffalo Public School System.

• 2:40Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  And this, how dare you, first of all, my mind's all erased. I have so many things that I want to go over that I can't think clearly. Basically, long and the short of it is a bunch, I came on this podcast and went like a bitch for a couple of minutes and then told everybody how bad the Buffalo, Buffalo Public School Systems were. And then the news ridiculed me and said, look at this idiot talking about something that we should focus on, but we will choose not to focus on.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  Look at, look at this guy and they have alcoholic beverages on the table and he burped once. We should ignore the allegations he's made as an SVU detective about the, uh, and proprieties that are happening with our children and our public school systems.

• 3:18Speaker 01

  Right. He already sounds like he's going to be president. So.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  God, no, never.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  District 23, he's president and that man is Brandon Herrera. So we, you know, obviously the autistic army pushes back, rightfully so, and says, hey, how about you focus on the facts that this guy's bringing up, to which gets a lot of eyeballs on it, to which changes the information that came out about the most egregious incident that I talked about, which was the, uh, attempted abduction of two children at a Buffalo Public School that was mishandled by the Buffalo Public School System, which we'll get into as we discuss the findings of this investigation. And then, um, well, yeah, that led to the investigation from the Buffalo Public Schools via this law firm that they hired to look into things, which if I'm not mistaken, I know they

• 4:07Speaker 01

  talked to me a couple of times. I know they talked to Nick. I'm not sure if you gave them binder or gave them the binder.

• 4:12The Fat Electrician?

  Made a copy of it.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  Which was pretty substantial. And now, just a little over a week ago, they came out with their findings from the investigation.

• 4:22Speaker 03

  Real quick, if we ever did want to like, uh, not to, not to interrupt too early, but if we ever did want to do a fundraiser to, uh, you know, get independent lawyers or something on this, if you did as merch, signed copies of the binder and everything that was in it, you know, you could raise some money doing that.

• 4:39The Fat Electrician?

  This is true.

• 4:40Speaker 03

  Have all the unsub podcast sign a copy of all of your findings in the binder.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  It's like sponsored Epstein files. I like it.

• 4:48Speaker 05

  Epstein files brought to you by Pepsi.

• 4:50Speaker 03

  Except hopefully we actually hold some people accountable in this case.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Just like the Epstein files, Brandon, you might be disappointed in the fact that how few people are held accountable at the end of this. How, what an appropriate juxtaposition there. The Epstein files and the investigation ending with the Buffalo Public Schools.

• 5:06Speaker 03

  Release the Buffalo files.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Release the Buffalo files.

• 5:09Speaker 05

  It was crazy watching you react, all of our reactions and then just combing through it and like, oh, oh, oh, nothing is going to happen. And then when you start really digging deep into it, you see all the problems. They're like.

• 5:25Speaker 03

  So what, what did they say?

• 5:29Speaker 03

  We've investigated ourselves and found no, no wrongdoing.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  It was not that bad.

• 5:34The Fat Electrician?

  He was, I mean, he, he can only go so hard, but I mean, basically the gist of the entire thing is the podcast made this allegation. The podcast was correct for like 90% of it. And then when we got to the actual case, uh, like the, the, probably the biggest allegation, which was the deleting of the footage. They had like a three page, very complicated elaborate excuse for how it was a failure of their systems and nobody's actual fault.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  So did they or didn't they?

• 6:08The Fat Electrician?

  I had to read it four times to kind of understand what the fuck they were saying.

• 6:13Speaker 03

  There's, they're trying to say that no individual person actually hit delete.

• 6:16The Fat Electrician?

  Correct.

• 6:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 6:17Speaker 05

  And it goes to that level of even the kidnapping. Well, we can't. Confirm this story and it's just he said she said and you have then nothing done with it. It's like, oh, well, sorry. We tried, couldn't confirm it. Oh, we did our job. And that was even, wasn't it for the kidnapping too?

• 6:36Speaker 01

  So I'll say for most of it, right? For most of the things where they say we can't confirm it. It's them, I feel being honest, where they say, we didn't, we couldn't get any information regarding this because of A, B, or C. And I'll tell you what those things are. And so we couldn't confirm that, but we also couldn't deny any of that. And I'll give you an example. So for one of the cases that I brought up where a young woman got [BLEEP] by a young man, they're both students in a school, I believe it was in Northern Buffalo, and the

• 7:16Speaker 01

  young girl told the principal, the principal did her own investigation, didn't report it, which is a mandated reporter, you have to. And then a year later, one of the girl, either the girl or one of the girl's friends stated, hey, this happened to so and so, or me, I forget. And then it was investigated by the district attorney's office and Buffalo Police and the district attorney, the assistant district attorney in charge of that case, sent a subpoena to the school principal and the school principal said, I'm not going to reply to this subpoena. I will not come in. I did my own investigation. I found it unfounded. I'm not coming in for this. So

• 7:55Speaker 05

  I didn't know you could just choose to do that.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you can't.

• 7:57Speaker 05

  Well, there you go.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  You know, but you know, if you have a district attorney that's not going to do anything, you can do whatever you want to do. And that's one of the issues, right? Is for that specific case, one, the Buffalo Police Department could not give out any information because it is a case that involves juveniles. So you're limited, and I see where they're limited, in the information that you can give out regarding juveniles to FOIA requests or Freedom of Information Act or FOIL, Freedom of Information legislation.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  They're limited. But the district attorney's office, and this is kind of par for the course for all of the district attorneys, I just about involvement in this, except for the abduction case, would not assist the law firm in its investigation. So specifically for that case that I just brought up with the young girl being assaulted in the school by the pool and the principal getting a subpoena. I know for a fact that that principal's letter is in the file, the investigatory file, along with the subpoena by the assistant district attorney. But the district attorney's office will not supply that information to the investigative body, that law firm.

• 9:09Speaker 03

  Why?

• 9:10Speaker 01

  God fucking knows.

• 9:12Speaker 03

  Because it makes them look bad?

• 9:13Speaker 01

  Because it, well, because it probably does make the district attorney look as though, hey, my legal authority, I will not choose to enforce that legal authority that I was voted in for when it comes to the assault or the misrepresentation under reporting of the assault of a child. Or specifically the, I'm not going to follow the law and answer your subpoena. Which is insane. If you are the district attorney of an area and I'm some turd and you say, you, here's a subpoena. To me, you have to show up.

• 9:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:50Speaker 01

  And I go, fuck you, I'm not going to do it. And then you sit there with your thumb in your ass and go, well, I guess I'm not going to do anything. Everybody else now goes, oh, sweet, this guy's not going to do anything.

• 10:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:02Speaker 01

  Which is exactly what I believe happened with the Buffalo Public Schools legislative body, not legislative body, but their judicial body, their, their legal representation. They said, oh, on many occasions, not just that one. They're not going to do anything, so we don't have to do anything.

• 10:18Speaker 03

  We don't have to show up when they say you like that.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  And part of the investigation was that the legal representatives for the school were investigated by this law firm and it's two lawyers talking to one another. So, Jesus Christ, like, could you? It's two rats fighting over a dead corpse. Like, what do we tell you? I could give a shit. So anyway, it's two peas in a pod. And unfortunately, that dead corpse is the corpse of a child. So what the investigation found was that there wasn't a good.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  Check the box verification system for subpoenas being sent to the school or individuals or the legal representatives for the school and that that's where this not answering subpoenas issue comes forward and what they basically say in the investigation is that for that incident and I believe others, the school legal representatives aren't given a subpoena. The MLP for the schools is that if you are a person given a subpoena, it is your responsibility to then send that subpoena to the legal representation of the schools.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Right.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  And then both of you talk about it or go through some sort of bric-a-brac and then you go over to the DA's office with representation about what you can talk about, what you're protected from talking about, etc.

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• 13:20Speaker 05

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• 13:22Speaker 03

  So, well, before we go like too deep into the weeds, like into the minutia of it, like what, what's the, the big picture looking like right now? Like, where are we at?

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Like, what's the findings of the entire investigation? Like, you're nuts in both of it? So this is what's frustrating, right? The entire investigation is like the final paragraph. And it's the investigatory body, that law firm. They say, we have found systemic problems in the Buffalo Public Schools reporting policies and other policies. Big word here, systemic, in the system, brought apart by the system. But we find no individual responsible for any of the actions to include, get ready for this.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  The people in charge of the system that run the system, that make the rules and enforce the system. The Buffalo Public Schools.

• 14:18Speaker 03

  Thank God, because it's everybody and not one specific person, then we can't hold anyone accountable.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Right? If only we could hold the people for accountable that made the rules that kept us here in this stagnant place. But we can't because it's not their fault. Which is the whole thing that made me really frustrated was there's a problem. What's that?

• 14:38Speaker 05

  They did say, but we recommended new things.

• 14:40Speaker 01

  Oh, we recommended some changes, which I'm okay with. You want to recommend some changes? That's cool. Some of them were blacked out because it's like security policies when it comes to the schools, which I understand. You know, hey, this is me and you talking about security for schools. That conversation does not need to be public.

• 14:54Speaker 05

  Let's not tell the criminals how to circumvent.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, which is, I mean, do you even need to tell the criminals how to circumvent the system? You could just not follow subpoenas by the district attorney, district attorney's office and then break into a school and do whatever you want. Because it's a systemic problem and we haven't changed the system yet. And we're not holding anybody accountable in charge of the system. So.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  So what do we do from here? Like, what's the, is there any recourse here? Or is it just kind of like where this is where we're at?

• 15:20Speaker 01

  Right? That it's, this is, this is.

• 15:22Speaker 05

  We were discussing this earlier.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  This is where we're at. Now, before you.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  Do we have to censor what the next step?

• 15:29Speaker 05

  No, but it's your fault.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  I was gonna say like I saw you like I saw a bunch of wood piled up in the backyard. I didn't know if we were building a guillotine.

• 15:37The Fat Electrician?

  So you know how because of the Tony thing, it's become like common knowledge on the internet that Congress has like a slush fund for settling assault allegations.

• 15:46Speaker 03

  Which is crazy.

• 15:47The Fat Electrician?

  Which is crazy, right?

• 15:48Speaker 03

  Like for those who didn't follow, I basically like accidentally kicked off Me Too DC edition.

• 15:54The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah.

• 15:54Speaker 03

  Where there is legitimately a slush fund that Congress has with millions of dollars for dealing with allegations of

• 16:01Speaker 05

  Where did the money come from?

• 16:03Speaker 03

  I'm still trying to determine whether or not it's taxpayer or donor funded. Either way is bad.

• 16:08Speaker 05

  Wild. Yeah.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not like, yeah, no, this is just a general fund that's set aside, knowing the fact that, you know, I'm sure people are accused of things they haven't done. But also just kind of the underlying assumption is, oh, well, we know congressmen are pieces of and we're

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• 16:48Speaker 03

  Gonna have to defend these allegations at some point. So we'll just, we'll keep a pool going for whenever that comes up.

• 16:53Speaker 05

  It's not a one-off where it's like, oh, we'll build this from a case to case basis. It's like, oh shit, John, who's very innocent guy, he got hit with this. Hey, let's raise some money. This is, ah, we'll just, this is gonna happen a lot. We'll have a well built for that, which is wild to do.

• 17:07The Fat Electrician?

  That got me thinking about slush funds and unsub's been threatened to have been sued multiple times, not for assault allegations, but for other things. Mostly talking shit on the internet.

• 17:16Speaker 03

  Taxpayer-funded settlements.

• 17:17Speaker 05

  Jesus.

• 17:18The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, that's disgusting.

• 17:21Speaker 05

  And how much money, just for reference, it's like millions, ten to twenty million?

• 17:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it varies on a year-to-year basis, but apparently in 2017, it was revealed that at least $300,000 in public funds had been used to settle harassment claims against congressional offices.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Tony Gonzalez is looking at that like, we gotta bump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  He's not gonna have to worry about it much longer.

• 17:40Speaker 01

  Anal?

• 17:42The Fat Electrician?

  Anyways, that got me thinking unsub should just have a slush fund for next time we get threatened to get sued for like, I don't know, calling out a school district or ruining a politician's career because we're probably going to get sued at some point. We've had multiple threats already.

• 17:53Speaker 03

  I agree. Well, not only that, but also the uh.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  We doubled down on that.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, what's funny is that these uh, like the theater, like the theater that threatened to sue us, what they, what they're used to.

• 18:03The Fat Electrician?

  Can we say this now? Can we talk about this now?

• 18:05Speaker 07

  We can't talk about it yet. Like, but like a theater.

• 18:08Speaker 03

  Yeah. Okay. So we'll, we'll blank that out. But there was a theater that we had an issue with that is used to bullying starving artists and, and you know, musicians and whatever. And they didn't realize like, oh, every person on that stage is independently pretty well off. We can't be bullied like that. They're like, oh, well, we're going to sue you. And we're like, fucking bring it. We're bored.

• 18:28The Fat Electrician?

  They got ahold of our agent and our agent is like, if you guys don't do XYZ, they're going to involve lawyers and sue you. And our official response was LOL, send it.

• 18:40Speaker 03

  Was that the actual response?

• 18:41The Fat Electrician?

  Yes.

• 18:42Speaker 03

  Hell yeah. Dude, if I was working on their end and I got that as a response, I'd be like, oh.

• 18:47The Fat Electrician?

  They said LOL, send it.

• 18:50Speaker 07

  Could you, could you imagine that? Like in any other scenario, like America has been Christian, I surrender. Tell them everywhere, everywhere, surrender.

• 19:01Speaker 05

  I mean, it's any kind of battle. It is reading in. It's like, we're going to attack you. Be prepared. They get a note back. It's like, dope. Pigeon said, have fun. Huh?

• 19:10Speaker 03

  All caps LOL. Like that's, well.

• 19:14Speaker 05

  Maybe we talked.

• 19:16The Fat Electrician?

  We might be making a mistake.

• 19:18Speaker 03

  They sent back an eggplant emoji.

• 19:21The Fat Electrician?

  So the slush fund idea, which we still should do, also got me thinking, why doesn't unsub just have our own PAC money for influencing politics and like doing legal stuff? We could have come PAC and then we could, I don't know.

• 19:33Speaker 07

  Sit in, sit in, united.

• 19:34The Fat Electrician?

  Give money to whoever's running for district attorney of Erie County in New York.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  That's what I was going to say. Like really, and like not even just like to prop up people because like, I don't want any fucking money.

• 19:43The Fat Electrician?

  No, I want to use it to take down bad people.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  Exactly. Use it as like, oh, it's the asshole punishment fund.

• 19:48The Fat Electrician?

  Yes. Yes. That's what I want.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  APF.

• 19:51The Fat Electrician?

  I want to raise a pact just so like, we're like, we're going to start with the DA, but it can just go from there.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Like we could have a stamp of approval and it's like the fist.

• 20:00Speaker 03

  I just like

• 20:01The Fat Electrician?

  We don't have a stamp of approval. It's a, it's a mark of people we don't like.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 20:06The Fat Electrician?

  It just becomes a thing like whenever we

• 20:07Speaker 03

  The black X.

• 20:08The Fat Electrician?

  Whenever we endorse somebody, it's they have an issue now.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  I mean, I honestly, I love the idea of

• 20:14The Fat Electrician?

  I think we should do it.

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  Cob pack.

• 20:18The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, no.

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  I hate how much

• 20:19The Fat Electrician?

  Cops coming after me. Cops on me, guys. They're on to me.

• 20:23Speaker 05

  Cause we were talking is like, do you just have a fund that just doesn't get taxed or touched and we build it? We don't know. We have to do

• 20:30The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. What can you do with PAC money? Once you like, if you

• 20:32Speaker 03

  There are a lot of restrictions.

• 20:33The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, there's, I know there's a lot of rules with it.

• 20:35Speaker 03

  A lot of people use them as an opportunity because like there are, uh, max out amounts for different campaigns and it's different state to state. And whether it's federal, state, local, whatever, amounts that an individual can donate, uh, to a campaign. But you can do, uh, like people use PACs because there's no, um, there's no limit on what you can give to a PAC, at least in most cases. So like you can, you can give, you know, if I could only give 5,000 to you as a candidate, well, now I can give a hundred thousand dollars to this PAC. The only thing is it's illegal for the candidate to conspire with the PAC. Like you can't have that direct communication like, oh yeah, donate to my PAC that I run. Um, by the way, and like the, the candidate have complete control of the advertisements, shit like that.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  Like they've got their own board. Like it has to be separate. Uh, that being said, we're not collaborating with any politician. We're motherfucking them. So we're, we're lazing targets. I, I feel like that's

• 21:26Speaker 05

  What about you though? Would we have like if

• 21:28The Fat Electrician?

  Is there a PAC that we could use that could support you?

• 21:32Speaker 05

  The C PAC?

• 21:33The Fat Electrician?

  Is there a PAC we can create? For Brandon?

• 21:38Speaker 03

  Well, I actually

• 21:40The Fat Electrician?

  There's gotta be a PAC we could use.

• 21:41Speaker 05

  There's gotta be.

• 21:43Speaker 03

  I did actually, I did start a PAC at some, at a certain point, or I wanted to called a based PAC. Where we were just gonna go like, and this is before I, I

• 21:50Speaker 05

  So on the nose. I don't know if I like, I like it, but it's so on the nose.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  Well, it's just gonna be like, again, like going, uh, you're giving the good guys support and stuff like this, but it's also much more exciting to just punish bad people. I like that.

• 22:00Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  Punisher PAC.

• 22:02The Fat Electrician?

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• 22:45The Fat Electrician?

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• 23:25Speaker 05

  Oh, Lord.

• 23:26The Fat Electrician?

  And it would make me very happy to come with more than that and just give him a message right as his campaign's spooling up. Congratulations, you're now involved in the most expensive DA race of all time.

• 23:37Speaker 05

  I hate how powerful CPAC, CumPAC would get, because I truly believe that can raise a I could get dangerous really quick.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  I mean, we've got a couple of years. Do you think CPAC, do you think CumPAC could like, I don't know, change the election of Erie County District Attorney's Office?

• 23:52Speaker 05

  I feel like it probably could.

• 23:54The Fat Electrician?

  I feel like we could do that ourselves.

• 23:58Speaker 05

  That could get dangerous.

• 23:59The Fat Electrician?

  Think about how much more we could do.

• 24:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, cuz then it's actual change, and it's going towards something, and then millions raised really quickly.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  For the city of Buffalo and the people of Erie County to like, raise a little bit of money and be like, oh, hey, this guy's not working with trying to put, you know, people who are abusing our children behind bars or holding the schools accountable. I mean, I feel like that's a pretty easy Win winnable race.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  The thing is, you'd also want to find a candidate that you like. You'd want to find somebody who actually represents, I don't know, the thing a DA is supposed to do.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  Like a good lawyer, like maybe a lawyer that's rich.

• 24:27The Fat Electrician?

  I don't know. If you won your election exclusively because some PAC relentlessly slandered your opponent on the internet or ruined their career and then overfunded you, I bet you'd be on your fucking Ps and Qs the entire time.

• 24:41Speaker 03

  You'd hope so, but also we're talking about.

• 24:44Speaker 01

  Their money goes to destroying people. They don't back anyone. They're like, this is way scarier.

• 24:48Speaker 03

  We're also talking about a, a, a, a perfect storm of someone who's both a politician and a lawyer. So I wouldn't put a lot past him.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  I'll also say this, just, you know, as a man in, you know, media, I look for advertisements. And did you know that the local billboards across the, the, the 190 in the city of Buffalo? It's a major vein that goes through the city. It's only like $10,000 could get you about five billboards for an entire month going up and down the interstate that goes directly through the city of Buffalo.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  And the best part is whoever puts those billboards up gets to choose what's on them.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 25:25The Fat Electrician?

  That's crazy.

• 25:27Speaker 01

  Huh. Oh, well.

• 25:30The Fat Electrician?

  It's okay.

• 25:30Speaker 01

  What if?

• 25:31The Fat Electrician?

  It's not like the DA's dad, who was super wealthy, had the judge seal a court case where he got a DUI in college. So nobody knew about it forever.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  That'd be crazy. I'm sure that's, well, that's one out of five. All right. We got four more.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  Well, you know what?

• 25:47Speaker 01

  There's got to be a reason other than poor leadership that the assistant district attorneys with, I don't know, experience have been fleeing the district, the Erie County District Attorney's Office over the past year. I mean, it's like, it's like eight have resigned and gone somewhere else, if not more. In like the span of 12 months.

• 26:04The Fat Electrician?

  I didn't really.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Damn, when did all this kick off?

• 26:08Speaker 05

  Was it from you?

• 26:09Speaker 01

  Geez, I don't know. I don't know. It's almost like there are people that are tired of seeing bad people get away with murder sometimes, literally, or child or just a lack of, geez, what would you call that? Like?

• 26:22Speaker 05

  Accountability.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  Accountability is the term.

• 26:24Speaker 05

  Yeah. It was crazy reading again, the, the document and seeing.

• 26:30Speaker 05

  They tried to sweep the lady flipping off on the cameras under the rug. They're like, well, she said it didn't happen. So.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  Oh, they talked about that, too.

• 26:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, and they said, ah, we were not sure if we can confirm it.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  They were like, ah, it's water under the bridge.

• 26:43Speaker 05

  Yeah, and they tried to.

• 26:45The Fat Electrician?

  I will say, reading that, I did have a pretty big smile on my face because I was like, that's from my binder, that's from my binder, that's from my binder, that's like, they were, I'm not shitting you, screenshots of documents that I had acquired are exhibit evidence in this report where it's like, and he kind of fucking scorches them on the shelter in place thing. I don't know if you remember that part?

• 27:09Speaker 01

  So there is a portion of it. I think you'll do a better job of explaining it because you kind of touched on it before.

• 27:15The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Go ahead.

• 27:16The Fat Electrician?

  So basically, uh, when the school, when, uh, the guy broke into the school and was, uh, potentially abducting children or trying to abduct children, uh, the school has, uh, protocols and there's like three tiers of what you tell the school's members so they know how to act accordingly. There is shelter in place, which is the lowest tier, which is like, there's inclement weather, like a tornado outside. It basically says, we're going to lock the exterior doors, stay inside, right? And then there's an intermediary one, which I forget. And then there's lockdown and lockdown means that there's an interior threat to the school and every teacher needs to get the students in the classrooms, lock the classroom doors and take a roll call to account for all the kids.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  The intermediate one is lockout.

• 28:02The Fat Electrician?

  Lockout. Yeah, correct. Sorry. Uh, shelter in place, you don't lock any doors. You just stay inside. Lockout is you lock the exterior doors for like a tornado or whatever. But there's, there's an exterior threat that could try to get in.

• 28:13Speaker 05

  But they did the shelter in place.

• 28:14The Fat Electrician?

  They did shelter in place, which is the lowest tier one.

• 28:17Speaker 05

  And this is after been, you guys already brought up, this door should be locked. The side doors.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Oh, so yeah, the, this is, we already brought this fact up. Like I know people that have worked in that school before and people in the, uh,

• 28:35Speaker 01

  The Science Museum and the doors that the individual got in, the doors from the school, there's a set of doors that the school and the museum share. So if you're in the museum, you can access the doors to the school. If you're in the school, you can access the doors to the museum and go through the museum. Cool. Interesting for learning spaces, but those doors have been broken and have not been locked for over a year. And I believe it was over a year at that point when the gentleman or the guy broke in to go abduct, potentially abduct the kids. So those doors were unlocked, knew they were a problem, was brought up by security individuals, and then that's how the guy got into the school. Locked down or not, he still would have gotten in because

• 29:16Speaker 01

  those school doors were unsecured and had been unsecured for a year over.

• 29:21The Fat Electrician?

  Right. But had they called lockdown, the teachers would have known to get the kids into classrooms and lock the doors.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 29:27The Fat Electrician?

  Yes.

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• 29:54The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, I had broke that in the original video saying they called shelter in place, not lockdown, which is insane. And then I had acquired the letter they sent home to parents, which said that they went into shelter in place, which downplays the entire event to the parents. And then in the thing, they're like, no, we talked to the leadership. They said they did lockdown, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, which we find hard to believe because this letter that we acquired from me clearly says that you told the parents that you went into shelter in place. And then there was like, I had three other pieces of evidence that showed that they went into shelter in place. And it was like, It literally showed in the report that they were trying to lie to the lawyers.

• 30:36The Fat Electrician?

  That was my interpretation of it, at least when I read it, but they were trying to tell the lawyer.

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Oh, there was a miscommunication.

• 30:42The Fat Electrician?

  There was a miscommunication. We went into lockdown and even the lawyer like couldn't even deny. He's like, well, then why did you tell all the parents that you went into shelter in place? He's like, I interviewed like other people that also were adamant that it was shelter in place, not lockdown. Like it was insane.

• 30:57Speaker 03

  Hey, did you kill a guy?

• 30:59Speaker 01

  I'm going to interview you about if you killed a guy. Oh, he says he didn't do it. Damn. It's almost like you're the Buffalo Public Schools and I'm like, did you this up? And you're like, no.

• 31:10Speaker 03

  Well, I've got a letter where you said you killed that guy.

• 31:12The Fat Electrician?

  I have a letter where you said you did it.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  What?

• 31:16Speaker 03

  Water under the bridge.

• 31:18The Fat Electrician?

  Right.

• 31:18Speaker 05

  The dad didn't even know.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Children under the bridge.

• 31:20Speaker 05

  Right? He was, I found out from the video that my kids were potentially abducted.

• 31:26Speaker 03

  He found out from us?

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Basically, the podcast is what got him to get involved and via either the podcast and his involvement, I forget which, but there was two months, I think he said after the date.

• 31:40Speaker 05

  I thought it was like six. I swore it was six is when I was like, I found out my kid was interacting with this.

• 31:47Speaker 05

  Period.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Either way, months, months after the fact that the, uh, the attempted abduction happened.

• 31:53Speaker 03

  Imagine finding out that your kids almost got abducted from a fucking, from strangers on the internet. Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:03Speaker 03

  I mean, really, yeah.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  Guys that belt on the internet.

• 32:06Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. Foul people that, you know, call out shitty.

• 32:10Speaker 01

  Raise money for autism. How dare we?

• 32:14Speaker 05

  It's wild.

• 32:14Speaker 06

  Brandon, what kind of shirt is that?

• 32:16Speaker 03

  I'm glad you asked, Eli. This is a poncho.

• 32:19Speaker 06

  Brandon and I actually wear ponchos so much, we constantly end up wearing the same nice poncho shirt.

• 32:24Speaker 03

  Good thing nobody's ever pointed that out before.

• 32:28Speaker 06

  Now, if you guys have ever seen one of our live shows or this podcast in general, you'll see Brandon and I wearing these incredibly comfortable gray looking shirts all the time.

• 32:35Speaker 05

  Pull it up with pictures. They're literally always wearing the same shirt.

• 32:40Speaker 03

  I got turned on a poncho like a year ago. Been wearing them ever since. Uh, personally prefer, I think this is the western because it's got the pearl snaps. Because it's hot in Texas and I like something breathable.

• 32:50Speaker 05

  Here's the thing I find really cool. Brandon, do the glasses trick.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  So ponchos have this neat little thing in the pocket where you just take your glasses.

• 32:57Speaker 05

  Nope, the other one.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  Be more specific.

• 33:00Speaker 05

  Who gives a shit about that?

• 33:02Speaker 03

  All right.

• 33:02Speaker 05

  Watch everyone.

• 33:03Speaker 03

  So if you got fat fingers and you smudge your glasses all the time, the bottom of the shirt actually acts, it has like a microfiber. So you can clean your glasses.

• 33:12Speaker 05

  I make him clean my phones.

• 33:14Speaker 03

  He does.

• 33:14Speaker 05

  I like the hidden little pocket on the breast.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Wait, what? Right over here.

• 33:20Speaker 03

  Got a little zipper pocket.

• 33:21Speaker 05

  I didn't even know about that one. Is that where you hold Cody's heart?

• 33:24Speaker 03

  And his drugs.

• 33:25Speaker 05

  Things you might need to know. Poncho has put a lot of thought and detail into each one of their shirts.

• 33:31Speaker 03

  Oh, holy shit. They're soft. They're really soft.

• 33:34Speaker 05

  Yo, what?

• 33:35Speaker 03

  That's my one like thing is fucking fabric sensitivity. I don't wear uncomfortable shirts. This is comfy as fuck. That's why we wear them all the time.

• 33:43Speaker 05

  So Poncho's got a bunch of great styles, the original, western denim and ultra light.

• 33:49Speaker 03

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• 33:59Speaker 03

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• 34:03Speaker 05

  Like that, they're reading that and going through it. And then again, nothing happens at the end of the day is when we all discuss like, hey, we should probably bring this up again because nothing's going to change.

• 34:13The Fat Electrician?

  Okay. Did you understand what the fuck they were trying to say in like the three pages where they articulate? Why the video got deleted or how it was misplaced? I had to read it three times and I'm gonna be honest, I still don't completely understand what the fuck they're trying to say.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  So what it looked like to me is it was, it was legal jargon, gobbledygook for nobody's taking accountability. But because nobody's taking accountability, we don't have a finger to point, right? And I'll tell you this because when I read it, they were saying, okay. The, the school's point of view from this, and this is the legal, and we're going to get into this because there's an obstruction portion of this, which is huge. That if anybody gets anything out of this, the obstruction portion of this story is massive. So.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  The school's complaint to the district attorney's office where they requested video of it was that the district attorney's request was too vague and that the district attorney's request, the ADA that had the case was, "We need all video camera footage regarding this incident." Right? So while this investigation happens of the law firm looking into the school about this, the video footage that was like not totally sent over to the district attorney's office, their findings was-

• 35:33Speaker 03

  What do you mean not totally sent over?

• 35:35Speaker 01

  So, little refresher, the reason why there was an issue with the one parent not knowing that their child was involved. So originally, it came out as one potential abduction. And then after our interview and media attention, it came out that there was a second child that was attempted to be abducted during this. And that that second child's family was not told about it for a while. That's why we brought up the dad that found out his kid was not abducted until, you know, 60 days or six months later. And one of the issues with that, the main cause of that, was that the district attorney's office didn't have all of the video from the

• 36:16Speaker 01

  schools after they requested all the video from that incident. And it was only when somebody from the schools had good intentions and had previously recorded a portion from a specific video camera in the school showing the second child was being abducted, not just the first, but that there was a second involved, and then sent that to the district attorney's office, that then the district attorney reviewed that footage and said, "Oh, my God, there's a second kid involved."

• 36:44The Fat Electrician?

  So exactly what you said happened.

• 36:46Speaker 01

  Pretty much.

• 36:47Speaker 05

  Okay, so it's inexcusable that months after me, as a parent, coming into the school, coming to the school at night, coming to the school during the day, coming to the school every day, that I did not know that my son is one of the first persons that this person encountered. Months.

• 37:06Speaker 05

  And he's there apparently every day and he's like, yo, what the?

• 37:10Speaker 01

  So the investigation from the lawyer's office, the legal team, they find out that, and this is their response, is that the district attorney's request for video evidence of the entire incident was so vague that people who reviewed the video footage were like, oh, there's three cameras down this hallway. We'll give you one of the cameras, even if all three of the video cameras recorded the incident at different angles and perhaps different times. We'll only give you one.

• 37:43The Fat Electrician?

  Is there a word for like, when you want everything pertaining to something? Or like, all, there's a word, all?

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. Involving the incident, we would like all video involving.

• 37:57The Fat Electrician?

  I'm sorry, was that too vague?

• 37:59Speaker 05

  All the footage is wild, like, oh, here, all footage, there's three cameras of this situation. We will provide all three, not like, well, we didn't know you wanted all three angles.

• 38:09Speaker 01

  If there's, forgive me for a moment, I'm going to spitball for a sec. If there is a break-in into a school and a child is nearly abducted by the person and that person assaults school staff, and then the district attorney's office, not the police, the district attorney's office says, give me all the video of this incident. To me, a reasonable person, I would be like, I want every camera from 10 minutes before this guy's on our soil to an hour after all the police leave and we're going to give them all of those gigabytes of data.

• 38:43Speaker 05

  That, that sounds like all.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  That sounds like all.

• 38:46Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  I'm not going to delete any, I'm going into this like, they asked for one thing, I'm going to give them everything. I'm definitely not the person to pick and choose what is good evidence.

• 38:55The Fat Electrician?

  How the fuck is all too vague? I don't understand.

• 39:00The Fat Electrician?

  I I don't get it.

• 39:01Speaker 01

  I think it's specific. It's specific. I would like all of your camera footage from this time to that.

• 39:07The Fat Electrician?

  If I hold this up.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:09The Fat Electrician?

  And Brandon asked me, how much of that did you drink, Nick? And I say, all of it.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  You're being too vague.

• 39:15The Fat Electrician?

  The can's empty dickheads. What are we talking about? Like.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  Well, get ready.

• 39:23Speaker 05

  For a crime, for a crime where it is, oh, they want, want that angle. It's not really good. Like, you know what? We need to prove that we did everything possible here.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  I mean, it's not even that, like, the angle's not very good. You left out a whole ass kid.

• 39:37The Fat Electrician?

  You're not qualified to homeschool your kids. You need to send them to me because I'm a professional. Also, I don't know what the word all means. What are we talking about?

• 39:47Speaker 03

  Also, I forgot to mention your child was abducted.

• 39:50The Fat Electrician?

  Also, that.

• 39:51Speaker 05

  Yeah. Sorry about that, bro.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  So the.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Oh, you wanted me to be accountable for all the kids?

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  All.

• 39:58Speaker 01

  That's a great line to break up. Hey, are you responsible for all the kids? Because what are you? Are you concerned or do you not know what all means when it comes to children? It seems so.

• 40:08Speaker 05

  One of the parents is warned.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  That's all of them.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  The kids should have told you what the fuck. Which they did.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  Try to blame the kids. Carry the one. They tried to blame, they actually tried to blame the kids themselves.

• 40:20Speaker 05

  We thought the parents would talk or the, the children would say something. That was like one of the statements.

• 40:25Speaker 01

  That I think that's like, I forget what that was revolve about.

• 40:32Speaker 01

  But. Uh, still sticking on the video thing. So their legal, the legal team looking into it. Their findings were, hey, there's not like a specific MOP for evidence collection or video collection. Uh, manual of procedures.

• 40:52Speaker 01

  Specifically written down on how they're supposed to retrieve it and give it to the Buffalo Police Department or the District Attorney's Office. And because that request was vague, they like, they, they weren't really sure how to do all of it or whatever, right? So that's one of the things. And we've kind of hit on how ridiculous that is. The other thing, which is massive here, and this is what I want people to really focus on is the obstruction, is they say, "We did not find any obstruction from the Buffalo Public Schools or their legal representatives during this investigation." Now here's an important piece of information here that they quote and they bring up in

• 41:32Speaker 01

  this, in, well, in the investigation. And that is, the investigating attorneys say, here is a quote from an email from the District Attorney's Office, quote, "The Assistant District Attorney to the legal team representing the school of Buffalo City Schools, your lack of transparency and hiding behind FERPA, which I'll get into in a second, is, and your inability to share requested subpoenaed evidence with us, is obstructing our investigation."

• 42:08Speaker 03

  Well, that's an interesting choice of words.

• 42:10Speaker 01

  Which, candy, this is where I go nuts. This is where I go nuts. Which the attorneys looking into the investigation, the investigating body says, "Although obstruction is a word commonly used in legal terms for preventing and an arrestable offense for preventing or obstructing an investigation, the District Attorney's Office, the lawyers, saying you're obstructing my investigation." That's not actually obstruction. That's just like, they're using the term. They're not, they don't actually mean the word.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  They don't mean what they said they mean.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Hey dude, 100%. And you can read it for yourself. I have it. I shit you not. I wrote down the page.

• 42:48Speaker 03

  Also, real quick, I just love the fact that like Eli knew to turn down your mic to the degree that you'd be shouting into it. But I saw you peeking my mic.

• 42:57Speaker 01

  I was like, we're gonna...

• 42:58Speaker 03

  Which is very funny.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  Connor, what are you doing?

• 43:02Speaker 03

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• 43:03Speaker 05

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• 43:09Speaker 05

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• 43:10Speaker 06

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• 43:10Speaker 05

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• 43:11Speaker 06

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• 43:24Speaker 03

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• 43:29Speaker 06

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• 43:30Speaker 03

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• 43:44Speaker 03

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• 44:32Speaker 05

  I just like this one. The board urges all community members to review it with an open mind and commitment to constructive dialogue, focusing on forward-looking recommendations rather than seeking to assign blame.

• 44:48Speaker 01

  Page 37 and 39 of the report, which is if you open it, there's a PDF document, I hope that there's a link somewhere. Page 37 states in the mid-paragraph that the obstruct- the, uh, the school's legal team is obstructing, quote, obstructs investigation from the DA's office. And on page 39, the top paragraph states, um, the DA's office found it obstructive, but we don't find it as obstruction to the investigation in like a legal definition arrestable form, which makes zero sense.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  There are good attorneys in this, in this world, but half of them should be flogged publicly.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  They also go on to state that the video deletion of the kidnapping is okay, is quote neglectful, but that nobody is in, nobody's, nobody's at fault.

• 45:44Speaker 05

  That's the thing. They just, no one's at fault. And we were discussing it's just no one's huddled cannibal like, well, okay. Well, are you happy with that? Hey, make sure any particular findings must not translate into harassment, threats, or intimidation directed at anyone. The path forward requires collaboration, not division, as we work to create the safest possible.

• 46:07The Fat Electrician?

  That shit. Do your job or I'll make sure you get fired.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, bingo. Well, here's the thing that pisses me off is like this idea that, okay, yes, a failure did happen. But nobody failed. It's like, okay, well, I'm sorry, but I think those two sentences are completely incompatible with each other. Who, if, if a failure had occurred with your organization that allowed something bad to happen, cool, let's fix it, right? But to be able to say that nobody, nobody failed at anything. There's no, no one individual actually didn't do their job. Like, well, that, that doesn't make any fucking sense, frankly.

• 46:41Speaker 05

  We did the math for what was the percentage point zero three reported as?

• 46:46The Fat Electrician?

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• 46:50Speaker 01

  Okay, nevermind. We can't talk about it yet. We can't talk about it yet.

• 46:54Speaker 05

  Math doesn't math.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  Can't talk about it yet. I'm going to have him FOIA request it and then we're going to talk about it because it's one of those things that I'm aware of, but we have to FOIA request it.

• 47:04Speaker 05

  What would you want to see done now or because of this? What's the disappointment? You're like, okay, this needs to happen.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  Here's the disappointment, right? And a lot of it comes to that specific incident because it was such a, a good, a horrible incident, but such a good representation of how the Buffalo school systems does, do not work with the district attorney's office of the Buffalo police department, right?

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• 47:48Speaker 01

  And that is that they're investigating body.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Uncovered, and this is in that those pages that 36, 37 to like 41 or 42, you know, and they're wide spaced. It's not going to take you an hour to read. It's going to take you five, 10 minutes. The investigating body writes in their findings, the district attorney's office is emailing the legal team representing the city of Buffalo Public Schools stating, "You are intentionally misinterpreting law so that you can defeat an investigation and obstruct an investigation into the abduction of children."

• 48:32Speaker 01

  That is a fact. That is 100% a fact. If anybody can get anything out of this, 100% fact is that the investigation found, the district attorney's office emailed stating, "You, the legal representatives of the Buffalo Public Schools are intentionally misrepresenting legal doctrine and obstructing investigations into the abduction of children." Full stop. That is a fact in the investigation. If you are a parent of any child in that school, if you are a taxpayer in the city of Buffalo, the fact that a legal team in

• 49:13Speaker 01

  the city school system is intentionally via the district attorney's office obstructing investigations into the welfare of your children, I don't know how you're not lighting that place on fire.

• 49:26The Fat Electrician?

  Metaphorically.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  In Minecraft.

• 49:33Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 49:35Speaker 05

  Because I mean, as a future parent, it's one of the most terrifying things, probably.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  My kid's never going to go to a Buffalo Public School, but there are kids that don't have the option. This is where I get passionate about. I'm sorry for yelling, but I am.

• 49:48Speaker 05

  No yelling.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  It really pisses me off. So I'm never going to send my kid to a city of Buffalo, Buffalo Public School. Fucking ever. Because they're so corrupt and horrible. It's disgusting. Case in point for what I just said about the investigation. I'm not. You are. All those families that don't have an option to send their kids to public school.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  All those families that are working two jobs that are trying to make ends meet, where you don't have a choice. You have to send them to public school. That's it. You're fucked.

• 50:20Speaker 05

  And less.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  If you don't do anything.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  If you don't do anything. So if this is the time, if this is the moment, where you're going to ignore all the evidence on the table and do absolutely nothing.

• 50:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. Sounds like at the very least, the DA needs to get shit canned. When's he up for election again?

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Three years.

• 50:40The Fat Electrician?

  No, it's in my phone. It's on my calendar.

• 50:43Speaker 03

  I knew Nick would keep a tally.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're looking at to see if anything changes.

• 50:49Speaker 05

  What do you do? What would you recommend for individuals? Because this is, we found out it's way bigger than just Buffalo during our time. It was like, holy shit. This is not just in Buffalo.

• 50:59Speaker 03

  Turns out incompetent government employees are everywhere.

• 51:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, if you're going to a public school.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Light me on fire.

• 51:08Speaker 05

  And that's what's crazy about it. It's fucking terrifying to be like, oh, this is the best option we have. No, you can start making changes at a local level and holding people accountable. When you get a piece of paper, it's like, ah dude, they tried.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. The changes that need to happen in my mind are, all the female friends and representatives in the Buffalo public school system, those people that are on the board, that hitched their ponies to the superintendent that recently retired and had that school named after her, which is disgusting. What a horrible self-blowviated pat on the back that is. You'll allow all this to happen and then get an award by having a school auditorium named after you? Get, you fat idiot. Anywho, anybody that hitched their ponies, and it's not hard to find them, except for one of them is the woman that flipped off everybody on that fucking call,

• 52:06Speaker 01

  needs to 100% be called to resign and replaced with somebody, a parent, or a teacher that cares about these kids. Because I'm telling you right now, except for a handful, and I mean like literally like two or three or four people on the board that I've already talked to, they all need to go. Including the new guy.

• 52:26Speaker 05

  I can make it easy.

• 52:28The Fat Electrician?

  All the, the vast majority of people that like hardline supported her, believe it or not, they're all in the same sorority in college.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  Oh, there you go. All the women in the same sorority.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  The good old gal system?

• 52:41The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah. So there's that.

• 52:46Speaker 03

  Ah, it's just.

• 52:48Speaker 01

  Oh, and the other thing too is like those, the AG's office needs to investigate the Buffalo Public Schools legal team, or the bar does because of their inability to do their job or answer subpoenas and hide behind legal statutes like FERPA, which by the way, so.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  I was wondering, because I didn't know that acronym.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Here's what FERPA is. It's F E R P A. I forget exactly what it stands for, but it, it basically, it protects students' information. So if you're a dad of a child, you can request their information. If you're a stranger on the internet that like got upset about something, and maybe the kid's involved in some sort of like criminal aspect, or is the victim of some sort of criminal aspect, and you like go to the school and say, I want that kid's information, the school can say no.

• 53:35Speaker 03

  Right. Which is, it's privacy protection.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  Yes, but it's very limited. So FERPA is, I'm requesting Nick's grades, uh, his, his report card, his attendance record. It's specifically for that.

• 53:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:51Speaker 01

  That's what FERPA belongs to.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Not criminal activity.

• 53:54Speaker 01

  So it doesn't mean that if you go to a school and you stab a kid, and then I come up as a Buffalo police officer, asking your teacher or administrator of the school, what's your name and date of birth? They can't say, I can't give you that because it's FERPA. But what the Buffalo Public School System is doing is literally, this is not an exaggeration, is literally in cases of violence and [BLEEP] assault, be it student on student, or assault when it's a student unto a teacher, or a faculty member, to include people that clean up the schools, which happens, I will show up, or other detectives will show up, or officers will show up and say, hey, school, we need the name of the student that assaulted Jimmy

• 54:36Speaker 01

  the janitor and [BLEEP] broke his mouth wide open and sent him to the hospital. But what's happening is, is the school is saying, no, we can't give you that information because it's FERPA. And what happened in the investigation with the kids being abducted is exactly that. The Buffalo schools, or the Buffalo Police Department and the District Attorney's Office said, we need the information to the victims. Who was there? Who were the children that were in the classrooms that he got into? Because he got into classrooms and like poked his head in and was just like, hey, what's going on? And then like got a sudden got-

• 55:07Speaker 03

  They were, they were, uh, sorry to derail a little bit. Did they ever figure out what his deal was? Like why he was there?

• 55:12Speaker 01

  He had schizophrenic break. He, he was driving himself to the hospital after, uh, making contact with officers in an adjoining town. And then he was, he was two stops away from going to the hospital and decided that, oh.

• 55:25Speaker 03

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• 55:26Speaker 01

  Better pop into a school.

• 55:27Speaker 05

  And FERPA was saved, uh, saved. The parents didn't get noticed because of that.

• 55:33Speaker 03

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• 55:37Speaker 05

  No, because it was responsible of the school. They decided not to. Then if FERPA didn't exist for that specific reasons, like, hey, it's a crime. This does not exist. Then the police would have reached out, hey, here, this is what happened and none of that happened.

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• 57:47Speaker 01

  So what what happened was is the abduction, the attempted abduction occurs. The Buffalo Police and the District Attorney's Office go, "Hey, school, give me the names of the people that were involved to include the children, specifically the children, because these are crimes that are against children." And the school said, "No, we refuse to give you the names of any victims from the school that are juveniles," which is the whole point. We're there to protect the kids, "because of FERPA." So the school was intentionally using FERPA, where I am not, I'm a stranger. I can't request your report cards. Or if you're tardy to class, to say, "During the criminal investigation, I can refuse to give you the names of the victim children

• 58:33Speaker 01

  in this crime." Which is a horrible representation of what FERPA is.

• 58:36Speaker 03

  Because that will... It makes you wonder, who is the legal entity responsible for deciding what? Like...

• 58:43Speaker 01

  So that was their interpretation, which was wrong.

• 58:45Speaker 03

  So there's no oversight on that? They could just decide that?

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Well, that's why the District Attorney's Office said, "You are intentionally misusing FERPA and obstructing this case," which is where this whole obstruction thing happens. There's... So...

• 58:59Speaker 05

  In the notebook, they actually said, or in the printout, was, "Hey..."

• 59:05Speaker 05

  This is where there was a failure, but uh, the teachers claim this, so we can't really do anything. It's like they said, they tried their best. No one reported it. Uh, no at fault. We can just potentially build a roadmap for them. So it doesn't happen again. Okay. Everyone's good. Everyone's good.

• 59:20Speaker 01

  Oh, you see, the legal team thought that by utilizing FERPA and not giving them their names to the victims of an attempted abduction. Well, they thought that that was their legal right. So it's not really absurd. No, you're lawyering it.

• 59:34Speaker 03

  Forgive me if this is like an off the wall comparison, but it kind of reminds me of the people that don't understand the difference between criminal and civil when it comes to qualified immunity.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  I'm trying. You would have to paint me a better picture of that.

• 59:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, sorry. Cause like a lot of people think that like.

• 59:51Speaker 01

  Focus on one thing. So I'm not following.

• 59:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. A lot of people, they, they just say, oh, we need to end qualified immunity because cops shouldn't be able to get away with doing whatever they want. And it's like, well, yeah, understandably, but they don't realize that you could still be tried for criminal actions.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  Correct. Yeah. Qualified immunity means that for people who don't know, qualified immunity for police officers means that if I arrest Nick and it's a legal arrest, right? There is a, even if it's like sloppy or bad or whatever, but by the law it is legal. He can't sue me civilly. He could try to sue me criminally, or he can try to get like a criminal investigation going on and that's cool. And the reason why that happens, you'd be like, well, why can't he sue you civilly? The reason he can't sue me civilly is basically every person that got arrested could then sue a cop civilly and then you would have no police officers because we'd be out of house and home. And there's like.

• 1:00:41The Fat Electrician?

  Just in legal fees. Even if you did everything right, you'd still have to pay a lawyer to defend you, even though you'd win.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  Every time that I would make an arrest, a bad guy would go, sweet, I'm going to sue him for $50,000. And I would still have to hawk up the legal fees to get an attorney to defend me. And then slowly whittling away how much money I would be able to make or support a family. And then eventually if you make 10 arrests, imagine if you made 10 arrests a year and then each guy decided to take you to civil court for each arrest.

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  There's your salary.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  There's dude, you're toast. How are you, how are you paying 10 different attorneys or 10, one single attorney 10 times over for all that time? Just because you're making a legal arrest.

• 1:01:20Speaker 03

  And it also doesn't like it with civil court, you don't actually need to be guilty of anything or have done anything wrong for somebody to take you to court that you then have to defend.

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  Correct.

• 1:01:28Speaker 03

  So like people were like, well, yeah, no, if they're doing something wrong, then yeah, we should be doing that. It's like, well, no, like anybody can sue anybody for anything.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. Even then, I, I believe that if you're found criminally at fault for something, that qualified immunity doesn't.

• 1:01:42Speaker 03

  Correct. That's the entire point. That's the entire point. If you're a cop and you pull somebody over, you're just like, I'm deciding to bonk you on the head like that.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. You're black. Bam.

• 1:01:50Speaker 03

  Yeah. You will go to.

• 1:01:52Speaker 01

  You'll go to jail.

• 1:01:53Speaker 03

  I would like to say all the time, but like, there's probably some exceptions, but for the most part, you're like, yeah, you're going to be held criminally liable.

• 1:01:59Speaker 01

  Yes. And then once you're held criminally liable, then you can sue them civilly. That's fine. Qualified immunity just means if I'm doing my job in the legal manner of which, of which it's supposed to be, then you can't just sue me civilly, which would be like a way of intimidation.

• 1:02:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. But maybe, maybe that wasn't the best comparison, but it's, it's what their interpretation of is FERPA. Uh, their interpretation is kind of like, oh, well, we can't give any information at any time or whatever. It's like, well, no, like there's a difference between, you know, your report card and your attendance and something that's actually criminal. Those are like two different categories.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  Two different categories, but what they're doing is they're intentionally misinterpreting it to delay an investigation, to obstruct it, which is why the district attorney called them out.

• 1:02:42The Fat Electrician?

  And that's the thing, like it's adding such a burden on the system because now it's not like, now the cops can't just go there and get the information to do the crime investigation and take somebody to court for that. Now, if they want to get anything done, every time they have to go to court against the school district to establish what FERPA is or if FERPA doesn't apply in this individual case, win that court case, then they can go back to the investigation, which is a year later and then get the information and then you're trying to do an investigation a year after the fact.

• 1:03:11Speaker 01

  And here's the deal, right? The Buffalo Police Department is, we're paid, we are created by and adherent to the city of Buffalo.

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• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  If the Buffalo Public School System is the Buffalo Public School System, well, they are adhering to the mayor and the city of Buffalo. So if we both work under the same entity, why is it that I need a subpoena from Buffalo Entity 1 to Buffalo Entity 2 to get the surveillance footage when a crime is committed on Buffalo Public Property?

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not like you're talking to like two different companies talking to each other. It's like, no, I work in marketing. I'm just trying to get an answer from accounting. Yeah, we're the same.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  I'm not talking to a private school. I'm talking to a city of Buffalo, Buffalo Public School.

• 1:04:22The Fat Electrician?

  Why is this so difficult?

• 1:04:23Speaker 01

  Why is this so difficult? And the biggest thing, which is just the glowing red nose on Rudolph here, is the fact that the District Attorney's Office called out the legal representatives for the Buffalo Public Schools on obstruction, on intentionally misinterpreting law to prevent victims' information from being shared with the District Attorney's Office, who represents victims of crimes. And the investigative body talks about it and says how bad that is, confirming that it happened, and then goes, well, I don't even care that they go, well, it was a misinterpretation and maybe we can work through it.

• 1:05:04The Fat Electrician?

  When the professionals that are qualified to identify obstruction of the law use the word obstruction of the law, I don't know that they mean obstruction of the law.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  Bro, how more clear could it be that this is like a, like it's a fucking cover-up?

• 1:05:21Speaker 03

  And nothing's done.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Maybe not the legal investigators covering it for them, but I mean, the schools and their legal team trying to cover up the mistakes that they've been making.

• 1:05:31Speaker 05

  So what are next steps? Like I, we need to get people fired. Fuck it.

• 1:05:36The Fat Electrician?

  That's the thing is like.

• 1:05:37Speaker 05

  Names out. I don't give a shit.

• 1:05:38The Fat Electrician?

  We can't do anything. Like that's the shitty part is it's like we can, well, I can, we can get the DA removed and stuff like that. But I mean, as far as like, it's one of those things where it's like, I can't do anything for you if you're not willing to do anything for yourself.

• 1:05:52Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:05:52The Fat Electrician?

  We, I can, I can throw the rope down to you, but if you're not willing to grab the rope and pull yourself up, I can't save you. So I mean, at this point, it's on the parents to actually go out and defend your fucking kids. And if they don't want to do it, I, I can only do so much for you.

• 1:06:06Speaker 05

  Everyone. It's not even the parents. It is.

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  It's city of Buffalo taxpayers, period. Your tax money is going to a corrupt legal representative, let a corrupt representation, legal representative for the, I don't know. It's, it's going to some really shitty lawyers that are protecting the schools to include the school board. The two issues are bad lawyers that your tax money is going to, to protect bad Buffalo public school, school board members. And both of those people are preventing your children from being protected and secure in Buffalo public schools.

• 1:06:41Speaker 05

  Wasn't there something shady about the lawyer too?

• 1:06:45Speaker 05

  I don't remember. I feel like I read that in the binder.

• 1:06:47The Fat Electrician?

  There was a, there's, there's connections where a lot of the, uh, how did, how did it work? I think it was, it was something along the lines of like a significant amount of the lawyers that had worked at Buffalo public schools as employees would then get jobs and go work at this law firm that is then contracted out. I'd have to double check in the binder, but like they're, they're like heavily connected in the school system, essentially.

• 1:07:13Speaker 05

  And it is, it's just if you're a parent, future parent, you actually have to step up and cause a ruckus. Like, hey, what the, if you read that paperwork, that's the biggest thing. Read that doc they released.

• 1:07:27The Fat Electrician?

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• 1:07:28Speaker 05

  And now go into it with Richard has everything that shows, hey, this is actually what happened. It's not a he said, she said, and they, they try to use that. It's like, oh, well, uh, we couldn't confirm on the other side. So there's no fault. Cause that's a lot of that article is.

• 1:07:44The Fat Electrician?

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• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  I will. And the thing that is frustrating about that, huh? We tried, which I talked about earlier is. I understand the Buffalo Police Department's side of things where, hey, there's a juvenile involved in this. We can't share the juvenile's information. And I would hope that they could still share the narrative of the reports, right? So the narrative of report are at such and such a time, at such and such a place, subject A talked to subject B and did XYZ, right? I would hope that they could redact those, um, the victim, the juvenile information, but still keep the narrative of what occurred and the location, which would show you the location of the school, right? The school's address.

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  Uh, that is what I would hope the Buffalo, or the Buffalo Police Department would do. Um, it is frustrating that the District Attorney's Office has not overturned, to my knowledge, other than I think that one email, uh, regarding the attempted abduction. It has not overturned any of their investigative findings regarding some of the specific incidents, to which I know, because talking with some of the media where they asked me, is, does this involve such and such? And I would say, yes, because I know what it is. They were like, cool, that's call number two, five, dash, insert numbers, right?

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  And I'll go, okay, cool. And they would say, all right, well, these are the people that are involved. This is what happens. This is the incident you're talking about. I'd say, yeah, that's the incident. They're like, well, we've got the call number. And then the District Attorney's Office will be like, no, we can't give you any of the information that we found during our investigation for that.

• 1:09:29Speaker 05

  This is the thing where, again, I don't know if you can talk about, we can delete this part, but it is to a fact where it's, there was absolute lies on that documentation when you're like, what? No, this, this exists. This evidence exists.

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  I know of incidents and I have.

• 1:09:48Speaker 01

  I know of them. And there are people in the media that have reached out to me and they have confirmed them with me. Right. Through their investigation, through their FOIA requests, they said, are these some of the issues? Or the incidents that where some of the issues are coming from? And I say, yes. So if you can get

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  the call numbers and the incident reports for incidents occurring at school addresses, which are FOI-able, totally FOI-able. This is not new information.

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  You'll be able to discern

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  if there is a lack of reporting. So I'll give you an example of what you can request.

• 1:10:45Speaker 01

  Let's say

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  that you wanted to find out if reports were not being done appropriately. Right? How do you look for something that isn't there? I think is maybe kind of like the question you might be asking. Yeah.

• 1:11:00Speaker 01

  You'd have to compare it to two things. What you'd have to do is you'd have to request for 911 dispatch calls, right? To a school and

• 1:11:12Speaker 01

  or you could request for a year's worth of 911 dispatch calls that would say school. School other, school whatever. School other is the biggest issue because that's the one where they hide the bullshit. Right. It doesn't say school assault, doesn't say school whatever. It says school other, which is where you could hide it because it's doesn't, what does other mean? It can mean whatever you want. And it also doesn't say assault and flash up with a red flag saying something bad happened, right? That's where they hide stuff. So you could request the 911 dispatch calls or CAD, computer aided dispatch, which is the what would pop up on our computer when we go to a call. You could request all of those school other calls.

• 1:11:53Speaker 01

  And then taking all of those CD numbers, which is case numbers, let's say, let's make it a lot. Let's say it's like 500 calls in a year to the schools. I don't think it's that many, but. No, it probably would be.

• 1:12:06The Fat Electrician?

  It was something like that, yeah.

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz it's like 7,000. Anyway, so let's say it's, let's say you get five. 14,000. Yeah. Let's say you get 500 calls for one year or six months, just make it a couple of months, right, to narrow down your investigation before I even went on my thing, which I have more information to tell you about after our thing and how things continued. So you would request from a time period, I want all the calls, the dispatched calls.

• 1:12:35Speaker 05

  Yeah, but what do you mean by all?

• 1:12:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, right. What do you mean by all? So you would FOIA the dispatched calls that came out as school other. FOIA request all those calls dispatched out on CAD or radio runs, however you want to describe it. And then you could request all of the reports for those calls. Now, if a computer aided dispatch call, right, comes out, then it says, hey, call 30, this call started at 10:00 in the morning, and car 411 goes to that call, right? The description of the call is school other. Additional information in that dispatch

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  call is [BLEEP] assault, student on student, which you'll find, if you requested the 1375 or the police report for that call, you would be surprised at how from [BLEEP] assault, student on student, there is no police report for it. Now, let me ask you this hypothetical question.

• 1:13:39Speaker 05

  So if they're hit with this, this will be like, hey, and then these are the ones that have actual reports or nothing?

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 1:13:45Speaker 03

  What is the, what is the reason for no police report?

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  That's a good question.

• 1:13:49Speaker 05

  Brandon, that is the golden question.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  That's the golden goose right there. So what you'll find is potentially.

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  If you have a call, and you'll see them, I assume, maybe.

• 1:14:03Speaker 01

  If you get a call where it says, offense occurred between two students, or let's even just say an assault happened between a student and a teacher. And you don't have a police report for that. Do you think that a detective in the special victims unit is going to know that that assault occurred? Or do you think that a district detective is going to know that that assault occurred between the student and the teacher? If no police report is made?

• 1:14:28Speaker 05

  Just are no.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say no, which is one of the issues.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  I mean, and that's, that's not something that I, that's, it's not breaking news. That's something that you can fly up. That's something that's been a part of these investigations since the moment that I came out and talked about them.

• 1:14:46Speaker 05

  It's just wild that that can even happen where it's like, nah, nah, nah. Push it aside. So we've been under the rug. We won't report that one. So what would you, before we wrap this up, what would be your next steps for the individuals watching? Cause we discussed this is happening way more than just Buffalo. We've all seen that. It was the sheer amount of DMs about, it's like, hey, this is going on my school district. Fucking mind blowing.

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  So cool, because people, real quick, if I could just, you see it a lot. People always pay attention like the big sexy, you know, federal elections and things like that, but they don't pay attention to things like school board and like local things.

• 1:15:23The Fat Electrician?

  Which affects you the most, honestly.

• 1:15:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:25The Fat Electrician?

  Your local elections affect you more than anything in federal government level.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Not only does it affect you more, most likely, but also it is where you have the biggest voice. Instead of being one out of 30 million, now all of a sudden you're one out of 300. And you can talk to a bunch of other people in the community and get them involved and like, really, you can, you can make big moves, but people don't. Cause people, it's very easy to get complacent and get lazy. Who can name people that are on their school board?

• 1:15:53Speaker 01

  I can't wait to be a member of my school board.

• 1:15:55The Fat Electrician?

  It's not like they're in charge of the minds of your kids or anything.

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not like you give these people six hours a day, five days a week tied with your kids.

• 1:16:05Speaker 05

  Brian's in charge of his own mind. Turned sure you shall listen to me. Okay, bud, stop it. It's it's wild because I don't think it's knowing your kids' teachers and then above that and then all.

• 1:16:24Speaker 05

  Everything that they can change, represent, hide, take care of is extremely important.

• 1:16:28The Fat Electrician?

  That's crazy part. Like I talked to multiple teachers that are fucking awesome and know this is a problem and have been. Some of them have been talking about it for years and have been taken to court multiple times and tried. They've tried to fire them multiple times because they pushed back and fight against the corrupt school board and just nobody listens to them.

• 1:16:49Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:16:49The Fat Electrician?

  And so like there are really good teachers in Buffalo School District. It's just some of the people that are elected in charge are pieces of shit.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  Are they the ones that flip people off in Zoom calls and then lie about it?

• 1:17:00The Fat Electrician?

  Nope, not those ones.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. They're the ones that are in the same sorority?

• 1:17:05The Fat Electrician?

  No, I'm saying the good ones.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, the good ones, yeah.

• 1:17:08The Fat Electrician?

  The good teachers that like have been trying to tell people that this is going on, but just nobody listens like.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  Cause there was that one guy was the whistleblower almost like, yeah, this is a known issue.

• 1:17:19The Fat Electrician?

  They tried to fire him three times. I in my binder, I have the court documents where.

• 1:17:26The Fat Electrician?

  I think it was over a stabbing at the high school.

• 1:17:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:30The Fat Electrician?

  And he tried to get them in trouble for it because he had went and told them like, hey, this door doesn't work and it doesn't lock. And it like directly led to a stabbing at that school and like created an issue.

• 1:17:42Speaker 01

  Which they had.

• 1:17:43The Fat Electrician?

  And they retaliated against him. They put him and he was the head of his department. I think it was like social studies or history department. They put him on leave for over a year, I believe.

• 1:17:55Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 1:17:55The Fat Electrician?

  And then all the other teachers in his department on leave and tried to fire the entire department. I think the the other teachers in the department weren't on leave as long as he was, but he was on leave for like a year plus. While they were in court fighting it out and the court system, I have the court documents where it was signed off on like. This dude literally did nothing wrong. You can't fucking fire him. What are you talking about?

• 1:18:19Speaker 03

  Funny how groups like that always, you know, they're, they're very quick to protect their own and, you know, circle the wagons and oh no, tho- those are our guys. You can't fire them no matter what they did. Unless you go against the grain and unless you call them out for their bullshit. In that case, they'll leave you out to die.

• 1:18:33Speaker 05

  Well, that's where I think that slush fund, I'd almost say have a portion of that slush fund goes towards that. It's like, hey, if you have a school district that does fuck you, because it is terrifying. It's like, what am I going to do? That school board's going to attack me. Oh, I can maybe rally a couple of parents behind me, but at the end of it, if I lose this job, I can't do anything. Now, if you have a backing and then you all understand, if you bring up kids, safety, anything like that, a lot more people will rally behind you than you think. And if we can help with that, then that's our job.

• 1:19:07Speaker 03

  Be funny if we do like, because you know, we do the autism charity month. We do veteran charity month for unsub. We just add a third month into the rotation. That's just the war chest month.

• 1:19:17Speaker 05

  Literally, we just keep a war chest. It's like, hey, dude, dummies. Dude, literally.

• 1:19:21Speaker 03

  Well, not just that, but like that, the, the, the pact to specifically spend against people who are assholes like the, the DA, like.

• 1:19:29Speaker 05

  That's a year one that just stays around and that can, we just add into it throughout the year.

• 1:19:34Speaker 03

  Speak softly and carry a $300,000 threat.

• 1:19:37Speaker 05

  Yeah. Then they will be very, oh shit, I'm, I'm putting my job at risk for this. Oh, look how many people with social media, here's hundreds of thousands that will look at it and then here is the funds to defend that. To make an actual change. I like that idea a lot.

• 1:19:54Speaker 01

  I think one of the changes that need to be made now, and I think it's an easy change to be made, is if I'm not mistaken, at this moment, the Buffalo Public Schools have all of their social media comments turned off.

• 1:20:06Speaker 03

  Weird.

• 1:20:06Speaker 01

  Which, if you are a public body.

• 1:20:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:20:10Speaker 01

  I believe, and I know that if you're representative of people, like the president can't turn off comments or block people.

• 1:20:15Speaker 03

  If it's an official account, I think there was a Supreme Court case about it, five to 10 years ago, that says that that's illegal.

• 1:20:21Speaker 01

  Official social media accounts, specifically, I know the Facebook one for the Buffalo Public Schools, they have all comments turned off, which you cannot do, if I understand that. Legally.

• 1:20:31Speaker 03

  I don't know about entities. I know for people, it's, it's a violation.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  How do you talk back and forth with people from your community that you represent if you turn off the comments?

• 1:20:39Speaker 03

  Oh, don't get me wrong. I think it's egregious either way, but like legally speaking, I don't know if it extends that far, but that's just because I don't know.

• 1:20:46Speaker 01

  I think that it's one of those things that it's a, a small witness test.

• 1:20:51Speaker 03

  Lawyer just, we just ask him.

• 1:20:53The Fat Electrician?

  Good news. We're building a pact where we can sue bad politicians and just target shitty people.

• 1:20:59Speaker 03

  Also Jake, come here. Come here.

• 1:21:01Speaker 01

  Can we do that?

• 1:21:02Speaker 03

  On camera real quick. Got the, you and I just got back from the polls. There you go.

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  They voted.

• 1:21:08Speaker 03

  I vetoed.

• 1:21:09Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 1:21:10Speaker 03

  Tony, I hear he's a great guy. Uh, never been involved in scandals. Perfect voting record. Just real, real.

• 1:21:16Speaker 01

  You should have said, I vetoed Tony Gonzalez.

• 1:21:19Speaker 03

  I vetoed. I fired him. Well, the people of Texas, I fired him more, more accurately. I, I assume anyway. I could get shellacked tonight.

• 1:21:28The Fat Electrician?

  If you're not gonna, if you're not gonna sell this shirt, I will. Or maybe this can be the first war, war chest pack shirt.

• 1:21:36The Fat Electrician?

  I fired, I fired Tony Gonzalez.

• 1:21:39Speaker 03

  That would be great.

• 1:21:40The Fat Electrician?

  I'm. Everybody that voted for Brandon gets to rock that shirt.

• 1:21:44Speaker 01

  I think we need to start a pack and like that's, we need to look into this. I fired Tony Gonzalez. I fired Representative Tony Gonzalez.

• 1:21:52Speaker 03

  No, I, I, I'm actually excited at the idea.

• 1:21:55The Fat Electrician?

  The gang gets into politics.

• 1:21:57Speaker 03

  Well, cause not, not only is it like, are we going to bring the eye of Sauron with our autistic army behind us? But also now there's actual financial ramifications. Cause it's like, you know, they can, you know, turn off their comments for a week or two and watch it die down. But now it's like, oh no, fuck. I just, I'm in a district or an area or whatever, local community where my entire race was a hundred thousand dollars. And these people are looming over me with not only millions of, of viewers, but also that kind of money. I mean, like, that's a real threat to make people, and again, we're not doing it to like sway people to do the wrong thing. We're just holding people accountable, making them do their job.

• 1:22:36The Fat Electrician?

  That's it.

• 1:22:38Speaker 01

  I think the first step for the Buffalo Public Schools to push them in the right direction is to have the families step up and to have them turn their comments back on on all social media. What a small win to show that we're taking this seriously. How can you hear us complain if you turn off the comments?

• 1:22:52The Fat Electrician?

  Now do a public school board.

• 1:22:54Speaker 03

  Sorry, the question I was gonna ask you, um, we were talking about the Supreme Court case that they decided a few years ago where, uh, public officials cannot, uh, block their constituents or turn off comments and things like that. Uh, does that extend to public entities like the Buffalo Public School System? I don't know, honestly. That was my answer as well. Yeah.

• 1:23:12Speaker 01

  Federally, if you can, if you could yell the DOD or DOW and they can't block you, I would assume that that could still be for smaller entities at the state and local level. Obviously, they limited to the state and local level, the people that they represent, or that pay the taxes to keep that place going.

• 1:23:29Speaker 03

  It would make sense, but I, I don't know the answer. It depends on how it was litigated ultimately, like what avenue it took.

• 1:23:37Speaker 01

  The gang goes to the Supreme Court.

• 1:23:39The Fat Electrician?

  Uh, no, it's, it's, it's legal because it's not specific, essentially. If comments are turned off for everyone, it's legal, but they can't go and block specific individuals.

• 1:23:53Speaker 03

  That makes sense.

• 1:23:54The Fat Electrician?

  So as long as they're treating everyone like shit equally, it's okay.

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  Which seems like that's what they're doing, which is why I'm saying people of the city of Buffalo rise up and have them turn their comments back on.

• 1:24:05The Fat Electrician?

  How did they honestly?

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  How did they do the public board, but then closed it?

• 1:24:09The Fat Electrician?

  Honestly, if I was a parent in Buffalo Public Schools, here's what I would do, because the only thing these people care about is money. And public schools are paid by having your kid in the school. That's why they get super upset if you don't have an excused absence and do all their paperwork and they want doctor's notes, because if your kid misses so many days, they don't get funding from the government.

• 1:24:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:24:31The Fat Electrician?

  So if I was a parent at Buffalo Public Schools, what I would do is I would get a bunch of other parents and I would organize school walkouts, which schools in America are really into right now, as long as it's for the correct political thing, they'll be super pissed about this one because it's about. Protecting kids and being held accountable to do their own job. They'll be they'll be mad. But I would organize school walkouts. So your kids just don't go to school every Monday all fucking year long until they fix their and then they're not getting paid. That's what I would do.

• 1:25:01Speaker 01

  Dude, a week walkout would fucking crucify.

• 1:25:04Speaker 03

  Well, no, here's here's the thing, too.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Wednesday walkouts.

• 1:25:08Speaker 03

  No, if you did a week.

• 1:25:08Speaker 01

  Rhymes.

• 1:25:09Speaker 03

  Monday, Tuesday.

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  And Wednesday calls are happening.

• 1:25:13The Fat Electrician?

  It doesn't even need to be. It doesn't even need to be everybody. If even if you got 20% of the school body to just like, no, I'm taking my kids not coming in today.

• 1:25:23Speaker 01

  I will.

• 1:25:23The Fat Electrician?

  Why? Is he sick?

• 1:25:24Speaker 03

  They couldn't fight back against it without talking about the reason.

• 1:25:28Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:25:28Speaker 03

  That's that's that's the big one is they they can't try to motherfuck the parents of these kids like, oh, well, this, this, this, if it's A, a lot of them and B, they would have to say the reason that they're protesting.

• 1:25:40The Fat Electrician?

  What are they gonna do? Call the cops?

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  And not talk to us at all about anything?

• 1:25:45Speaker 03

  It would be school. We have more school others.

• 1:25:48The Fat Electrician?

  They have to call a true. It would be super weird if half of the Buffalo school kids didn't go to school and the school got mad and called the cops because the parents weren't having excused absences for school, which is illegal. So they called Buffalo Pub or Buffalo Police Department and the Buffalo Police Department said, no, no, no, you can't tell me who the kids are that aren't showing up because that would be a violation of FERPA.

• 1:26:09Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 1:26:10The Fat Electrician?

  So you can't share that information with me. Sorry, can't help you. Click.

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  See how that logic goes?

• 1:26:15The Fat Electrician?

  I mean, I'm correct, isn't it? They can't share that information with you. That's FERPA.

• 1:26:18Speaker 01

  I mean, that's that's their stance.

• 1:26:20The Fat Electrician?

  That's their interpretation of it.

• 1:26:22Speaker 01

  That's their stance. I didn't say that. That's just using their legal jargon against them. Or I mean, with them because they that's what they want. They want that. They want that.

• 1:26:33Speaker 03

  I like that a lot.

• 1:26:35The Fat Electrician?

  Oh, huh. I mean, that's what I would do if it was my kids.

• 1:26:41Speaker 01

  I mean, any other last pieces of advice, Mr. Richard, from what you're dealing with?

• 1:26:45The Fat Electrician?

  Yeah, this is the end.

• 1:26:46Speaker 01

  That's a really good, that is what Nick has gold. You can replay that back a couple of times.

• 1:26:52Speaker 05

  Man, the next time, the next time you get hurt, they're fucked.

• 1:26:57The Fat Electrician?

  I'm planning on getting hurt right around November 2028. I got a date with somebody.

• 1:27:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'll have a reelection.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  The other thing is, I've unfortunately planned on the investigation not holding people accountable. So I have more information that I'll be sharing at a later date that I have to make sure is collected appropriately within my bounds as a citizen. And then I will be sharing that.

• 1:27:33Speaker 05

  Man, I bet you hate it when your enemies are smart.

• 1:27:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, get ready for round two, five.

• 1:27:42Speaker 05

  Well, yeah.

• 1:27:43Speaker 01

  Listen, whatever round it is, get ready, because it's gonna upset you almost as much, if not more, because I told you about it already. It's gonna upset you a whole lot.

• 1:27:57Speaker 05

  I'm gonna have to learn about this later.

• 1:27:59Speaker 01

  I can tell you it in two minutes, the second the cameras turn off. And like, literally that fast, and you'll be like, oh, yeah.

• 1:28:08Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, if it's the truth, it needs to come out.

• 1:28:09Speaker 01

  Oh, it will. You'll be able to FOIA it. Yeah, 100%. It's gonna be something you'll be able to FOIA and get as soon as the request goes through. It should not be an issue.

• 1:28:18Speaker 05

  It's something as a parent, when you hear this episode, like, do something, make a change, there's worse. If you don't do something, and then you hear that, you're like, fuck, I should have done it then.

• 1:28:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:29Speaker 05

  Why did I wait?

• 1:28:30Speaker 01

  Get involved now and allow this to snowball in a good way.

• 1:28:33Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 1:28:35Speaker 05

  Brandon, Cody, Cody, Brandon.

• 1:28:38Speaker 03

  We're just blending together at this point. Understood.

• 1:28:41Speaker 05

  Congressman Donut.

• 1:28:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:28:43Speaker 05

  Herrera Operator.

• 1:28:44Speaker 03

  Close us out.

• 1:28:45Speaker 01

  Brandy Heronut.

• 1:28:48Speaker 03

  Bro Nut, Bro Nut. Thank you guys for joining the Unsubscribe Podcast, AKA the Absolutely Foul Podcast. I was joined today by Eli Double Tap, Nick the Fat Electrician, Rich Angry Cops, and myself, Bro Nut Bro Operator. Thank you guys so much and we'll see you next time.

• 1:29:07Speaker 05

  We love you.

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