Pod Insights Unravel 04 What Became of Jack? | The Wondai house About this episode One of the last places Jack was seen was a house in Wondai. Rob goes there, despite being told the people inside that night have links to the region's darker side, to investigate why Jack visited that night and what happened after he left.
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0:51 Speaker 06 Right now, I'm in the car with Kelly, Jack McLennan's mum.
0:54 Speaker 04 We're driving around Wondai now.
0:57 Speaker 05 Okey dokey, that sounds good.
0:59 Speaker 06 It's nearly eight months after Jack's disappearance, and this is my fourth visit to the area since then. Kelly and I, we speak pretty much every week, and every time I'm up here, we catch up. I'm always touched by her generosity.
1:13 Speaker 05 You've rocked up. You've brought me a banana, a block of chocolate and some licorice, along with some hot chocolate.
1:20 Speaker 04 You've helped us so much, and I consider you just a true blue friend. You're always there for me.
1:29 Speaker 06 Today, we've got a very specific mission in mind. I'm here because Kelly and I are chasing up an important lead. It means driving around a town called Wondai. It's only about five minutes south of Fix Crossing, where Jack was last seen. We pass a sign that's stuck to a telegraph pole. It's a picture of Jack. His warm face beams down on us with big text above it that says, missing person.
1:54 Speaker 04 So we've been putting them on poles because they're getting sort of damaged on the ground a bit, or people have to mow around them, so it's a bit hard.
2:04 Speaker 06 Ever since Jack disappeared, Kelly and I have been following the clues left behind: his hat, his shoes, his credit card and his wallet. Today, I'm looking into something I've heard was found inside the wallet: a small clip-sealed bag normally used to hold drugs.
2:24 Speaker 06 Kelly still has her doubts about this piece of evidence, or that Jack dabbled in drugs at all. But she'll chase down any lead to find out what happened to her son. The place we're driving towards right now, it's where I've been told the bag could have come from.
2:41 Speaker 04 Can we drive down there?
2:45 Speaker 06 As we approached the house, Kelly asked me to slow the car right down. On both sides of the street, there are these free-standing homes with well-kept front gardens.
2:56 Speaker 04 And look at all the homes, they're well-presented, their yards are beautiful.
3:01 Speaker 06 But the house we're here to look at, it stands out.
3:04 Speaker 04 So see there, with all the rubbish at the front?
3:11 Speaker 05 The one with the smashed rear window.
3:16 Speaker 06 Some of the people in this house have a pretty patchy reputation around town. Some have criminal records with convictions for drugs or violence. And I've heard that at some points, it's been a place where people get drugs and use drugs. I've seen rumours online and had off-the-record conversations about who lives here and what happened inside the night that Jack disappeared. Some of it's pretty wild and extreme, and likely not true. But among it all is a persistent theme, that at some point over the course of his final day, Jack and his friend Chris Duke may have left Fix Crossing and come here, possibly to buy meth.
3:59 Speaker 06 I'm hearing that the people who live inside this house could tell me more about what happened if Jack and Chris were here.
4:07 Speaker 04 So there's that, that apparently people come up here to do their deals, they walk up there, so they'll be close to the house.
4:13 Speaker 05 Yeah, it's like a bit of an alleyway that runs down this line.
4:16 Speaker 06 I feel like if I walk up and knock on the front door right now, I'm worried what could be waiting inside for me. And to be honest, without a bit more preparation, I don't feel like it's a great idea. So I decide to wait, and Kelly and I, we drive off.
4:32 Speaker 04 Let's keep going.
4:34 Speaker 06 I need to do some more digging before I return here. Who are the people who live here? Did Jack really score drugs off them the night he disappeared? And what do they know about what happened next?
4:46 Speaker 04 They really should talk with the family, it should be a... A thing that just happens, you're not saying that they're a suspect, but let us know exactly what went on that day because we're wondering still.
4:59 Speaker 06 I'm Rob Bergen and this is What Became of Jack?, the latest season of Unravel.
5:12 Speaker 06 By the time Kelly and I drive around Wondai, I've been looking into Jack's disappearance for months. And here's what I found out. Jack was hanging out with his friend called Chris on the day that he disappeared. We know that around 1.30pm, they went to the bottle shop to get some beers. And we know that around 3pm, they went out to Fix Crossing to hang out and have a swim.
5:37 Speaker 06 And Chris says later in the night, as they hung out at Fix, Jack just suddenly disappeared. According to Chris, that happened at about 10pm. Then, Jack's shoes and wallet turn up in weird locations in the surrounding farms and bushland. The strange pattern of Jack's belongings and the fact that no body has been found after all that searching, it all starts to make Jack's parents think there might be more to the story. Jack didn't seem to have any serious enemies, so what could he have got mixed up in that night? To me, the first place to start investigating was to start with this small drug bag found in his wallet.
6:20 Speaker 06 It provided a potential link, no matter how small, to the darker underworld in the towns around Fix Crossing. So, I had a whole lot of questions about that bag. First, was it Jack's? Would Jack even take the kind of hard drugs you get in a little bag like this? If he did take the drugs that night, or Chris did, did they go to this Wondai house to get them? And if so, what happened at the house when they got the drugs? And is it possible that Jack came back to this house later in the night, after he disappeared at Fix Crossing? Starting at the first of those questions, was this little plastic bag Jack's?
7:03 Speaker 06 When Jack's parents heard about it, they were sceptical that it belonged to their son.
7:07 Speaker 05 And I went, how convenient, how convenient. So no licence, no other cards, all that's gone. But there's a little deal bag placed inside it to show that, oh, I've been on drugs and I've wandered off into the bush.
7:21 Speaker 06 Like in lots of regional Australian towns, there is a bit of a meth problem in the region where Jack lived. But to Ross and to Kelly, Jack was this fit, young bloke who was into yoga and healthy living. Taking drugs just didn't gel with that image at all.
7:37 Speaker 05 So it was just reeking with falsehoods. The whole lot of it was just not making sense at all.
7:47 Speaker 06 For Ross in particular, there was another explanation. Was there some inference there that perhaps this had been planted, the wallet and the card?
7:56 Speaker 05 Well, they didn't infer that, but we definitely did. We knew that, you know, two and two doesn't equal five here. Something's really amiss here.
8:04 Speaker 06 So Jack's dad thinks someone might have planted the bag in his son's wallet. By the way, he isn't saying the cops did it, but he thinks someone might have. And the reason for that kind of speculation is because, well, Jack's parents, they hate to imagine their son taking hard drugs. So the next question I need to answer is, would Jack really have done meth or whatever was in this bag? Jack's ex-girlfriend Carly told me Jack had experimented a bit in the past, but she didn't think he'd done drugs like that recently. To get a clearer picture, I decided to spread the net further and to reach out to nearly
8:45 Speaker 06 everyone Jack was in contact with over the last few years. I send over 150 messages on Facebook to Jack's friends, acquaintances, old work colleagues, and I get a bunch of messages back. Some of the responses echo what Carly told me, that Jack liked his pot and the occasional drink. It's not until I connect with one of Jack's closest childhood friends that I get another perspective on Jack's relationship with drugs. I'll just get you to say your name. Uh, Sam Gilmore. Perfect. And Sam, how long have you known Jack for? Since I was...
9:26 Speaker 01 Thirteen years old.
9:28 Speaker 06 Sam and Jack were best mates for a time in high school. Back when Jack and his family lived over on the coast. He still can't quite believe his friend is gone.
9:38 Speaker 01 It's just a bit, um, just a bit fucked. It's hard to deal with these emotions. It was a friendship that lasted till he's gone. You know, he was one of the closest people to me in my heart.
9:51 Speaker 06 Back in high school, Sam and Jack did everything together.
9:54 Speaker 01 We used to say that we're the same soul trapped in two different bodies. You know, we're pretty much like the same person. And I think we just, we just put up with each other's shit. You know, and we always had the best interest for each other in our hearts.
10:07 Speaker 06 You sound a lot more like brothers than friends, really.
10:10 Speaker 01 That's, that's what I could put my relationship to him with. You know, not maybe not by blood, but maybe by spirit.
10:15 Speaker 06 Sam and Jack stayed mates even as Sam moved interstate for a while. And Jack moved back and forth between the Sunshine Coast and the towns around Fixed Crossing. During those years, they were housemates too. They lived in three different places together. And at one point, Sam even got Jack a job where he was working. For a while, the two of them got really into spirituality.
10:38 Speaker 01 He thought it was a bit of a joke at the start and then he started looking into it. He's like, hang on, there's something, there's actually something here.
10:43 Speaker 06 They love going deep and talking about things like human consciousness.
10:47 Speaker 01 You know, we know the power in the mind and the body, but you know, what happens to it? Once the soul's brought into the equation, you know, something that's beyond, I guess, this plane of existence. What can humans do then?
10:58 Speaker 06 Exploring these interests led them to a whole new set of experiences.
11:01 Speaker 01 You know, and that led us down a journey of psychedelics and other things and trying to perceive something we couldn't. You know, I think some of the experiences we had on that really pushed us towards what we can't see.
11:16 Speaker 06 Over the years, thanks to life and distance, they started seeing less and less of each other. But they stayed in touch, catching up over a call every two weeks or so.
11:26 Speaker 01 Just to make sure he's gone. And see how things are going.
11:28 Speaker 06 Then, about a year before Jack went missing, the two mates organised to catch up at Sam's place. When Jack arrived, Sam says he brought something with him that wasn't welcome.
11:41 Speaker 01 Oh, I think he was going a bit wild there for a little bit, but he like he came, he brought a crack pipe into my house and I, and I just went, what the fuck? How you doing?
11:50 Speaker 06 Sam thinks he'd been using the pipe to smoke meth.
11:54 Speaker 01 I told him how disappointed I was for bringing that shit into my house. You know, I said, this is, I said, it's disgusting. I said, why the fuck would you resort to something like that?
12:03 Speaker 06 Sam can't believe it. Sure, he and Jack used to smoke a bit of pot together and maybe dip into some psychedelics, but meth?
12:11 Speaker 01 Why meth? Why us? You know, like you, you know what it does to people, you know, look around.
12:17 Speaker 06 Sam told Jack to pull his head in. The interaction stayed with him ever since.
12:22 Speaker 01 It's completely out of character for him to resort to something like that.
12:27 Speaker 06 And why do you think he was doing it?
12:30 Speaker 01 I don't know. You know, I think he was just lost and I think, you know, Jack was easy to manipulate. You know, that's one thing, one of his downsides, you know, he's very trusting and that sort of thing. And sometimes that was to his detriment. And I think it's just what the people he was hanging out with down there do. Like, I think it is just a choice of drug in that area.
12:50 Speaker 01 When he does go to something like that, he's embracing his darkness.
12:54 Speaker 01 E- everyone's complex. You know, we've all got a shadow. And I think, yeah, you know, and I think his just got the better of him.
13:08 Speaker 06 Sam's not the only friend from Jack's past that told me he's tried harder drugs. To me, it feels like I have my answer as to whether Jack would put something like meth in his body. The answer is, yeah, it's possible, especially if you think about the fact that he's processing his breakup with Carly. It seems to me that despite the way that Jack hid this from some of the people closest to him, the little plastic bag found in his wallet, it was probably his, which means it's unlikely it was planted by someone else, as his dad Ross suspected. So if Jack did take drugs the night that he disappeared, part of me wonders if he just got lost and ran into some trouble in the bush.
13:50 Speaker 06 But the problem with that theory is that police and the entire community did a massive search of the area. There were drones, divers, dogs, more than 160 people searching over 10 days. They still didn't find Jack, or his phone, or his driver's licence. And the family and their supporters, they're still out there searching, and they still haven't found anything. So it makes sense to me to look into where else he might have gone that night, and what else he could have got caught up in. Which leads me to the next of my questions: where they got the drugs? The thing I don't understand, you know, you look at these, um, dealers in Wondai, you know, like everyone in the town knows who these people are.
14:33 Speaker 06 It makes sense to ask those people more questions about what they know. For all we know, they might have more information about where Jack went and who else he spoke to that night. They moved in a very different world to most people in the region. Maybe they know about something else Jack got caught up in. Maybe they saw or overheard the beginning of a phone call, some weird behaviour, an argument, a conversation, something Jack was involved in at the house. I don't know what's happened, but I think something's gone down at the drug dealers. It seems like if I want to know the answers to my next questions, I'm going to have to find the people who were in it the night that Jack disappeared.
15:16 Speaker 06 It doesn't take long for me to start finding out their names. The first is a woman called Twyla. She's in her mid 30s and grew up in the towns around Wondai. I find her number and do my best to get her on the phone. Uh, yeah, hi, Twyla, it's Rob Bergen calling from ABC Radio. I wanted to see if I could organise a chat at some stage. Twyla tells me she doesn't want to talk, and that she's going to get advice from a lawyer. All right, is there a better time to call you back? Then she hangs up. Hello?
15:49 Speaker 06 I called Twyla a couple more times in the weeks after, but she doesn't pick up. Strangely, people online start naming her dad and suggest that as he's Twyla's dad, he knows more about what happened to Jack than he's letting on. I reach out to him. At first, he's reluctant to talk, but after a bit of back and forth on the phone, he agrees to speak with me. What he shares with me about his daughter, it opens a window into a much darker side of the region that Jack lived in.
16:17 Speaker 01 My name's Neil Robbins, um, seventh generation in the area. All me family opened up all the stock routes. Yeah, and just hard work and all me life.
16:31 Speaker 06 Neil hasn't done anything wrong in this saga, but the worst of the online discussion around the case, it's started to get unhinged. And people in town have started confronting him based on false accusations that he's hiding something.
16:45 Speaker 01 I can't walk down the main street of Mergon anymore because I know I'm Twyla's dad and I just want to fight you. You know, you get a group of 10 or 12 of them walking down the street at you, what do you undo?
16:55 Speaker 06 And that's just coming from general members of the public that know about the story.
16:59 Speaker 01 Yep.
17:00 Speaker 06 Neil says he never met Jack, but after he went missing, Neil felt the region he calls home turn against him and his daughter. He says he's seen hundreds of alarming online posts and messages.
17:13 Speaker 01 The death threats for Twyla is just, it's out of control. I think there's 467 messages handed to the police.
17:22 Speaker 06 467?
17:24 Speaker 01 Messages, inboxes, death threats, hate hits.
17:30 Speaker 06 What's some of the extreme versions of that?
17:33 Speaker 01 Oh, there's, they're up to $10,000, $5,000.
17:37 Speaker 06 To do what?
17:39 Speaker 01 To put Twyla on the wrong side of the.
17:41 Speaker 05 And how's that make you feel?
17:46 Speaker 01 Oh, it makes you want to protect her, go into protection mode.
17:50 Speaker 06 I get the impression from Neil that when he heard Twyla's name was brought up in relation to drugs, and that Jack visited her place that night, he wasn't completely shocked. And that's because Neil has watched his daughter fall deeper and deeper into the dark side of the small towns around Fix Crossing.
18:07 Speaker 01 Ever since the drugs come to town, the heavy drugs, like the ice, everything just changed. That drug, it's, it's something else to be reckoning with, that thing. And it's getting worse, too. It's easier to get that than water now around town.
18:24 Speaker 06 Neil says Twyla slid deeply into addiction after this awful freak accident, when her young daughter was killed by a television that fell on her.
18:32 Speaker 01 And then, then put the needle in her arm and that was the end of it.
18:37 Speaker 06 So you think everything changed in that moment where the TV fell on a child?
18:42 Speaker 01 Yep. I noticed a change in her. Yeah, she got real gumho and, and I thought, I knew something wasn't right, but I couldn't put my finger on it. And then when I seen all the bruises up her arm, that was, that was the end of it. That was, that was the sign.
19:00 Speaker 06 Before long, Neil couldn't recognise his own daughter.
19:03 Speaker 01 They're just not, they're still in there, but just them, the lies and just the, you know, always trying to hide the habit. I'm always waiting for the police to, you know, knock on the door, can you come and identify your daughter? That, that's what I live with every day. Yeah, because it's coming one day. You can't just keep that lifestyle up. You've got to come unstuck with it sooner or later.
19:34 Speaker 06 I can tell Neil is hurting, but I need to go back to why I called him in the first place. I want to know what his daughter Twyla knows about the last hours before Jack disappeared. What has Twyla told you happened that night?
19:49 Speaker 01 Yeah, not a lot, like she's. Said that they were there, they they were all good.
19:54 Speaker 06 Neil seems to confirm what I'd heard, that Chris and Jack went to the house together. Did Twyla say what they sort of did that night when he got there?
20:03 Speaker 01 Oh, they just, he said, he was just a nice, quiet bloke. And I said, well, what did Jack buy? And he said he just brought two pints of ice.
20:14 Speaker 06 Neil's saying Jack bought two pints, as in 0.2 grams of ice, while he was at the Wondai house. That's a fair bit if you're not taking it regularly.
20:24 Speaker 01 And I said to Twyla, I said, was he a drug addict? And he she said, no, he said he was very new to it.
20:32 Speaker 01 And, um, yeah, but plus, he was, he did have some of it.
20:39 Speaker 01 And, um, but he didn't needle or anything.
20:41 Speaker 06 Neil says he was told by Twyla that Jack wrapped the ice in a cigarette paper and swallowed it. It's commonly called bombing your drugs, and it's less invasive than a needle and gives a smoother, more delayed high. Twyla told Neil that after Jack took the drugs, he was in a good mood. She didn't say anything about any conflict or anything aggressive or violent happening while they were there. Jack and Chris just bought some drugs, took them, then left.
21:09 Speaker 01 And then when they left, they were laughing, walking up the driveway, him and Chris. And yeah, that's that's the end of it. And Twyla said then they, then she finds out the next morning that Jack's missing.
21:23 Speaker 01 And that's all she sort of said, and she doesn't know anymore.
21:27 Speaker 06 I was hoping that Neil might be able to connect me with Twyla, so I could further clarify the story. Like, what time did Jack and Chris get to the Wondai house? And what time did they leave? And what else happened while they were there? But Neil tells me Twyla's left the house in Wondai now, and I hear she's staying in another place more than an hour's drive away. She's still ignoring all my messages. Neil says she might not know anything more anyway.
21:56 Speaker 01 Kid's the one that we've got to talk to.
21:58 Speaker 06 Kid's the nickname of the other person who lived in the house with Twyla, and who I've heard was there the night that Jack and Chris visited. For legal reasons, we won't use his real name. Kid was Twyla's boyfriend at the time, a man in his early 40s. From the ABC office back on the Sunshine Coast, I start doing some digging.
22:21 Speaker 06 What I find is a long list of criminal convictions dating back more than 20 years. They're for things like theft, trespassing, breaches of bail, drug possession and drug supply. I call him a few times, but he doesn't answer. And then soon after, he's completely out of reach because he's sent to jail on remand for unrelated charges. When I contact the people around Kid, no one wants to go on the record. Some are seriously concerned about the risk of speaking out against him.
22:56 Speaker 06 Eventually, I learned that the Wondai House, the place where Jack and Chris apparently went to score drugs, it's also Kid's mum's place. Her name's Edna. As far as I know, she's had nothing to do with any of this, but she does live there. So maybe she can help me figure out what happened there. I find a number for Edna and I give her a call. Oh yeah, hi Edna, it's Rob Bergen from the ABC. I've been covering the Jack McLennan case and I'm aware there's a lot of rumour and fact and fiction etc that's all getting mixed together. Immediately, I can tell that Edna is not happy to get a call from me and she doesn't agree to be recorded. You sound like you've pretty distressed over everything that's taken place and
23:41 Speaker 06 that's why I'm reaching out to you to understand your side of it. But even though she doesn't want to be recorded, Edna and I speak for almost 40 minutes. Edna tells me about her involvement in the community. She's been a member of the Country Women's Association for years and she's a regular face at the local markets. She says all the accusations flying around about Jack's disappearance, putting Kids and even her name in the middle of it, it's sent her into a nervous breakdown. Edna backs up what Neil said and confirms that Jack did come to her house that night. By cross-referencing that with a bunch of other known sightings of Jack around Wondai that day, it means Jack and Chris were likely there close to 5.30pm, about two and a half
24:26 Speaker 06 hours after they first got to fix. Edna says she only saw Jack briefly at the front when he arrived. They said a quick hello, then Jack walked towards the back of the property where Kit and Twyla lived. I asked Edna if there was anyone else at the house that night. So who was physically in the house, just so I can be 100% sure? She drops a few names but quickly peddles them back, unsure if they were actually there or if she's got her nights mixed up. Whatever the case, Edna tells me she's spoken to Kit about what happened that night, and he promised her nothing bad went down. As we get to the end of our conversation, Edna tells me she's open to doing an interview, but she wants
25:09 Speaker 06 to check with a solicitor first. She tells me to call back later in the week. Okay then. Thanks for your time. Cheers.
25:22 Speaker 06 For a while now, I've suspected there were more people at the Wondai house that night. Over on Facebook, people have been throwing names around left, right and centre. Some of them are the same ones that Edna said on the phone. It's hard to know if these are real leads or just town gossip, but I need to track them all down.
25:43 Speaker 06 I do my best to find numbers for each and every one, and when I call, some don't pick up. They ignore my follow-up messages and voicemails. A couple of numbers I try early on, they're later disconnected. Please check the number before calling again. I do get some responses, but when I press for information, I'm quickly shut down. Did you see him the night that he disappeared? I've never met him and I've never known him, so... I try Edna again later in the week as planned, but she never picks up my call.
26:16 Speaker 06 I'm definitely getting frustrated here. It's like I take one step forward and get this golden nugget of information, but then quickly take two steps back with people clamming up or going cold. It feels like I've got no choice left. I've got to make the three-hour drive back out to Wondai and finally approach the house where it seems like Jack and Chris bought those drugs, to try and get some answers once and for all.
26:47 Speaker 06 Well, right now, I'm just outside the house that Jack visited on his last known night. And we can see there's a hedge that's covering a large part of the front. The tarpaulin that was previously there has been moved aside. In the backyard, there's probably half a dozen vehicles. A blue hatch has just pulled into the front drive. And I think this might be Edna. So I'm going to have to try the old traditional route and see if I can rock up and they'll have a chat.
27:27 Speaker 06 Here we go.
27:33 Speaker 06 I've got no idea what I'm walking into here. I heard there were as many as 12 people at the house when Jack came here. Who knows how many are here today? I can see the front doors open, but the screen doors shut. I walk up the steps and I can see the kitchen table through the doorway.
27:57 Speaker 06 Edna appears from the end of the hall. Hi, so, Edna, it's Rob Bergen from the ABC. We spoke on the phone last week and we had a bit of a long chat. She looks wary of me and her sunlight face kind of scrunches as she tries to make me out through the screen door. I should have said something more, not interested.
28:18 Speaker 06 How has your life been since Jack was here?
28:23 Speaker 06 I don't want to say anything in case it incriminates me again. I think, Edna, all you said before was that he left.
28:33 Speaker 06 Edna disappears and I kind of just sit there, waiting for a few seconds to see if anyone else will talk to me other than the dog.
28:43 Speaker 06 But nothing happens, so I head back down the path and I lock eyes with a neighbour across the road who's looking at me suspiciously.
29:02 Speaker 06 Well, clearly not the outcome I wanted from Edna. After such a good 35, 40 minute chat last week on the phone, where she was very close to saying that she'd be happy to present the family's argument. Today, she basically just said to me that the solicitor told me not to say anything. I'm not going to have a chat. I don't want to incriminate myself. And then just walked off, turned around, walked back to the house. She didn't even shut the wooden door. She just left the screen door and the dog yapping at me, so, yeah.
29:37 Speaker 06 Driving on the motorway back to the Sunshine Coast, I felt deflated. I'd chased down a heap of leads for the Wondai house and established that Jack and Chris were there at some point the day Jack disappeared. But Kit and Twyla, the two people I know were at the house with him and could tell me what happened before his disappearance, they seemed totally out of reach. Those last few questions I had, they're still unanswered. Did Jack and Chris buy drugs and leave the house? Was that it? Did they come back? Could Jack have come back alone after he disappeared at Fix Crossing? I just don't know. It feels like I'm at another dead end. Then, one day, I'm back at the office
30:22 Speaker 06 when a video download link lands in my email. When I open it, I can't look away. It's Jack's mum, Kelly, and she's standing in front of the Wondai house. She's interrogating Kit and Twyla, two of the last people to see Jack McLennan alive.
30:39 Speaker 04 Um, mate, I know my son was here on the night he disappeared, so can you tell me a little bit about that? I'm his mum.
30:46 Speaker 06 She seems to accept he was on drugs that night, and she's angry.
30:50 Speaker 04 So what the fuck drug did he get that night?
30:52 Speaker 06 That's next time on What Became of Jack?, the latest season of Unravel.
31:12 Speaker 06 Before we get into the next episode, I just want to say thanks for all the feedback on the series so far. Anne from Sydney asked about Jack's phone records. Now, obviously the pings from a missing person's phone are often used to find them. I have asked police about this, but they've declined to comment. All I can really tell you about this is that police did release a map of Jack's last known location to help guide the search right at the start. But the map covered a huge area, a massive radius, which took in the more populated towns of both Mergon and Wondai. Obviously, it's impossible for us to chase down every rumour, but if you saw something
31:51 Speaker 06 yourself or you heard something firsthand, get in touch [email protected] .
32:02 Speaker 06 This season of Unravel is intended to be listened to as a whole. If you haven't heard all the episodes, you shouldn't draw any conclusions because you haven't heard all sides of the story yet.
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