It's not all bad

Things in the news have been feeling kind of…bleak, so we called in some reinforcements. Vox's senior editorial director and resident good news expert Bryan Walsh joins editor Joanna Solotaroff to remind us that there’s still a lot of good stuff happening, too. Guest: Vox senior editorial director Bryan Walsh. Sign up for the Good News newsletter HERE. For show transcripts, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vox.com/unxtranscripts⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠For more, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vox.com/unexplainable⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ And please email us! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We read every email. Support Unexplainable (and get ad-free episodes) by becoming a Vox Member today: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠vox.com/members⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:23Speaker 02

  2025 is over and I gotta say, it felt like a long year.

• 1:29Speaker 03

  11 months deep in the 2025. Here's a look back, recap, deep dive. January, Carrie versus Audio Crew. Quick TikTok ban, wildfires, bird flu.

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I mean, this TikTok came out in November and it just reminds me that so much happened last year, I can't even keep track of it all.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  But my feeling overall is that 2025 was pretty rough. So I decided to take a break from my daily doom scrolling to call on my Vox colleague, Senior Editorial Director Brian Walsh, for a little perspective check.

• 2:09Speaker 04

  In early 2025, I launched a new newsletter that comes out every Saturday called Good News, which is pretty much exactly what it says on the tin. It's an attempt to sort of look at what's happening through an optimistic lens in the world and kind of push back against the negativity bias that basically infects all of us, not just in the media, but really the human race.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, last year was like any other year where I feel like by December you start seeing all of these memes kind of declaring this was the worst year and 2025 was no different. And I had a TikTok that I wanted to share with you.

• 2:44Speaker 05

  I'm not even gonna lie, I feel like I can confidently say for most of us that 2025 was one of the worst goddamn years of our lives. For real, can we talk about how awful this year was? I don't think I've ever heard a single person say, oh, 2026 is gonna be my year. I think we're genuinely all scared this time because I'm not even exaggerating when I say this year almost.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  So I have to say, I don't disagree. I feel a lot like this young woman does. How do you feel about the last year, Brian? Do you also have a hard time kind of like parsing out the bad news from the good?

• 3:17Speaker 04

  It's all about a matter of perspective, right? It's all about what we choose to look at and how we sort of see it in comparison to the past, you know? And I'm not surprised that TikToks that say the year is the worst year ever are the ones that are going to get views and things because that is kind of the way our media works. It's where our media has always worked. That's not new with social media, but it's probably particularly intense with social media. And we are a people that tend to sort of focus on the negative. But certainly when it comes to being in the media, we all know this. Like, if you tell people things are bad, that's something that's gonna get to their notice. But that often overlooks not just like individual good news stories, but like a longer term trend of things getting better. It's such that like, I'm pretty confident if you put 2025 against most of the years

• 4:01Speaker 04

  of humanity's past, this one would come out pretty good.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  This is Unexplainable. I'm Joanna Solotaroff, and this is the second edition of our Good News segment. Can Brian convince me that things may not be as totally terrible as they seem?

• 4:37Speaker 02

  What for you are the good news highlights of 2025?

• 4:41Speaker 04

  One of my favorite stories involves a six-month-old baby who in February became the first person to receive a CRISPR therapy, that's the gene editing therapy, that was custom-built for a specific mutation in their lethal urea cycle disorder. And this is something that usually is essentially a death sentence for about half of affected infants, or they need a liver transplant. And yet, you know, now, almost a year later, the baby is thriving, the baby is cured. And this is just the beginning of the ability to use gene editing for things that can really target individual, often rare disorders. And those are the kind of ones that science often skips over because they're only affecting a very small number of people. It's expensive to create treatments. There's not a lot of market for it. But gene editing, which is something we've been hearing about, I think,

• 5:26Speaker 04

  over the last decade, now we're finally getting to the point where we can get ultra-personalized therapies that will really change the lives and save the lives of kids and people and adults who otherwise really would have nothing for them. So I look at that and be like, that's amazing. You know, like, here's a huge scientific advancement that now is actually paying off to save people's lives and make people better off. And it starts with this, you know, frankly, cute little six-month-old.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  Did this happen in the US?

• 5:56Speaker 04

  It did happen in the US, yeah. And it was a team at UC Berkeley's Innovative Genomics Institute that kind of led the way on that.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Wow. So people are still able to do great work and make these discoveries even in spite of all of these funding cuts?

• 6:10Speaker 04

  Right. I mean, in many ways, when we get to something of that level, it's been in the works for a long time. Gene editing itself, I think the earliest sort of discoveries that got us in the wrote to CRISPR go back to, you know, the 20th century. Then it took years after the actual discovery of it to begin to get to these kind of treatments. That is a long tail that frankly is vulnerable to being broken. And I definitely worry about the future. I mean, I should say, off the bat, like, I can tell you a lot of great things that happened in 2025. That doesn't mean they're going to continue in the future. And that's kind of a little up for debate, really, up for grabs, I think. But at the same time, you know, it would be, I think, Kind of mistaken or even blind really to just put those away to not look at those either.

• 6:52Speaker 04

  I think we can hold both ideas in our minds at the same time, hopefully without going completely insane, and see that both things are possible, both things are true.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  What are some other pieces of good news?

• 7:08Speaker 04

  I think perhaps the biggest piece of good news, I think, from this year is the fact that we saw kind of across the board, what I say is like all the everything bad trends actually turning around and beginning to bend towards a more positive direction. So a lot of this comes out of the pandemic, right? In the pandemic, we have huge spikes in violent crime. We have huge spikes in drug overdoses. We have huge spikes in deaths to spare, including suicides. You know, and there's real concern like, was this just kind of a one-off? Was it just a representation of this, frankly, the social breakdown that occurred during the pandemic? Now we're seeing in 2025, like, real shifts in that.

• 7:49Speaker 04

  There's an argument to be made that we could be the US on the track for one of the steepest one-year national homicide declines ever, pushing the murder rate down to levels that haven't been seen since like the 1960s. Here in New York City, we actually set a record, I believe, for the most days without a murder.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 8:07Speaker 04

  That's a huge improvement.

• 8:12Speaker 04

  And yes, like that's, we were saying like, there's still crime. We've seen on the news, there's sadly still mass shootings, mass killings. But what we're seeing is a lot of that has declined. And, you know, in the same way that I think we always see that's bad when those things are rising up, like, we should also recognize that we can make change, we can have success against some of these trends, and we're actually seeing that.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  What's been attributed to that decline?

• 8:36Speaker 04

  That is one of the big questions that's out there. It's amazing now we've had, going back to, I think, to the early 1990s, we had The tail end of the great increase in violent crime in US cities going into that period, then we had this long tail of decrease that went on for a couple of decades. There's enormous scholarly disagreement over exactly what causes both trends. You know, there are people who said it was about changing policing. There are people said that was completely overstated. There's generational changes that happen, like simply how many young people do you have, given that, you know, a lot of violent crime is done by young people and young men. They often tend to be the victims of that as well. I think you had sort of cities like New York improve economically, at least from the depths of like the late eighties and early nineties.

• 9:20Speaker 04

  You had changes, I think, in drug sales, drug consumptions. I will say like the most recent one, I think, you know, the simple fact is that like, once you had the sort of shutdown and breakdown that occurred during the pandemic, it really made people act out, I think, for lack of a better term. I think, you know, there was a lot less control. Kids were not able to go to school. As you get back to normality, you see that change. So I think some of this is, is working through the, just the terrible social breakdown that was the pandemic and getting back on the track that we used to be. I think some of it really is just a natural, I don't know, it's a natural reaction to when you see these huge spikes that can't go on forever. Eventually they do break, almost like a fever.

• 10:01Speaker 04

  And it's very important to continue to focus on, but the fact is that this is very real, you know, and this has made life in US cities far safer than it was a few years ago.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. And does the same go for drug use?

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Yeah. So the number of people dying from drug overdoses is down about 24%. I mean, considering that the fact of the opioid epidemic was so terrible, I mean, you had deaths that were above 100,000 a year when things were at their worst. To see that fall is an enormous victory. I think you did see an improvement in response, in development and sort of distribution of stuff like Narcon, which can actually stop overdose deaths in, in progress. Just greater awareness. You know, we've seen this sort of curve happen before. I really hope we never see anything as bad as we were seeing in the late 2010s and early 2020s. That was really horrible, but you know, it is trending in a really much more positive direction than it used to be.

• 11:00Speaker 04

  There's still a lot of ground that has to be made up, but you know, we're moving in the right direction and I do feel good about that.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  What are some of your other bullet points?

• 11:09Speaker 04

  Well, it's funny, I can stick on a bit of a similar subject, which is one of the biggest trends that's happening right now is a real, frankly, reduction in drinking alcohol.

• 11:18Speaker 02

  True.

• 11:19Speaker 04

  Yes, you may have heard this, the young people, they do not like it, not at all. Something like among 12th graders, I saw in a, in a study when I was writing about it a few months ago, reported alcohol use fell from like 75% in 1997. Only 54% of Americans now say they actually drink alcohol, which is the lowest share since like 1939. Obviously, people enjoy alcohol in moderation, but it is linked to, I believe, something like 178,000 deaths a year in the US.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  So, you know, even those relatively small declines really do add up in improvement of health and survival, you know, in families that aren't destroyed by addiction. So that's also, I think, a nice Calvin narrative to like kids these days are so reckless and, you know, what's wrong with them? Actually, they're quite safe. You know, there's some downsides to that, too, but, you know, I don't think anyone would think this particular thing is a downside unless maybe you sell wine coolers, I guess.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  We do want to apologize to everyone in the wine cooler industry who might be.

• 12:19Speaker 04

  I'm sorry, Mr. Barnaby, I'm sorry, Mr. James.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  Who might be suffering these days.

• 12:23Speaker 04

  One last thing on the medical thing is, obviously, you know, one of the worst plagues we face is dementia and Alzheimer's.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 12:32Speaker 04

  And while that's still something that we have no cure for, we are seeing really promising research that's looking at the possibility that certain viruses might play a role. There's a really fascinating study that I wrote about where older adults who were given the shingles vaccine were like markedly less likely to develop dementia than those who hadn't, and there seems to be some connection possibly there. When I think, look to the future, thinking about 2026 and beyond, like, that's one area of research that I feel really optimistic about. And, you know, anyone who has been touched by that knows how amazing that would be. So that's, that's something that's huge as well.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  That's amazing. In terms of the environment, is there any good news?

• 13:11Speaker 04

  The environment's a tough one. Let me start with one that like, again, maybe this is more for people of my age like who remember from their childhood about the ozone hole that was growing over Antarctica and was going to fry us all. That's one of the best long-term environmental news stories I've ever seen, really, because we've seen that ozone hole, thanks to actual concerted international action, going back to the 1989 Montreal Protocol to get CFCs out of the supply chain. We've seen the ozone hole continue to shrink. Its peak area now is something like 30% smaller than it was in 2006, which was the record. It's closing weeks earlier than usual. I mean, that, you know, another area that's really great is renewable power.

• 13:54Speaker 04

  No matter what the Trump administration has tried to do, global renewable power capacity just keeps growing and growing and growing. Something like 4,600 gigawatts between 2025 and 2030, that's what we're expecting. And we've already had about that much installed so far in the world, solar and wind leading the way. So that is a huge good news story. Like, we're going much faster than I think even the most optimistic people thought 10, 15 years ago.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  I feel like now when I'm like laying in bed with anxiety, I'll just slowly imagine the hole in the ozone layer closing.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  It's like the new counting sheet.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  There are certain times for me where I am just like so hooked into the news cycle. You read one thing that upsets you and you keep reading and it kind of can turn into this like negativity loop for me. And I know for a lot of people, I'm curious how you are able to manage the input of so much information and if that's ever a challenge for you when it's your job to be immersed in these headlines all of the time.

• 15:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, you know, it's this new job, this part of the new job is good news thing actually helps with that because it actually forces me to go out and look for good things, which otherwise would not be coming to me. So I think that's part of it. Honestly, a big other part of it is, you know, the ability to step back as well. I mean, that that comes from like years of being a journalist where, you know, one thing is like you you're going to get a longer sweep of time and you realize what seems like a huge story now will not necessarily be a huge story in years' time, will not even be remembered in five years' time.

• 15:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 04

  Weirdly, like, the single biggest factor, though, is understanding how bad things used to be. You know, like, tens of thousands of people are still being murdered, tens of thousands of people are still dying due to overdoses, but it is better than it used to be. And then if you really look at the long sweep of human history, you realize, you know, I don't want to be born in 1800 anywhere. So, in a weird sense, like, a lot of what I do is kind of anchor myself and be like, well, it's not the it's not the midst of the Black Death, which, you know, is not the most convincing argument for other people. Like, if I go around, I mean, just, it could be worse. That's especially true if you think about, like, global trends, things like extreme poverty, which has declined significantly over the last 30 years, or dither with maternal mortality, or childhood

• 16:20Speaker 04

  mortality. Like, it's still awful that this happens to so many people around the world, but at the same time, it is meaningfully important and good that it happens to so fewer people than it once did. And we actually, you know, all of us working together in some way in this world, helped make that possible. I don't think that's something we report on a lot, but that is a true fact of the world.

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• 20:17Speaker 07

  If it weren't for the rotten things that happen in this world, we couldn't put on the news show.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Okay, so it seems like people did manage to pull off a lot of great things in 2025. But what about 2026? I mean, kicking things off with military strikes and the capture of Maduro in Venezuela, all of the upheaval we're seeing here in the United States. We're only two weeks in and it has just been an onslaught of these big, chaotic headlines. But if Brian is right, there's still some really good long-term work happening in the background that maybe we can look forward to.

• 20:58Speaker 04

  Things are not perfect on this planet, but I do have some good news, which is that we are going back to the moon. NASA's Artemis II mission is scheduled to fly sometime in the early months of 2026. That's going to bring four astronauts on a round trip around the moon. That's expected to be the first in a series of missions in the years to come that will aim to establish a permanent outpost on the moon's southern pole. So if you don't like things on Earth, there might be some real estate elsewhere in the future. Beyond that, like in 2026, we're expecting to see a few major clinical trials that will test how the psychedelic drug LSD can help treat anxiety and depression. I think that's incredibly important because mental health disorders and the rise in those

• 21:40Speaker 04

  are very real, a very great source of suffering, and we've had a really hard time coming up with new treatments for it. LSD and other psychedelics show a lot of promise. If these go well, we could see some version of LSD being approved as an alternative treatment as early as 2027.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  What are some other pieces of good news?

• 22:00Speaker 04

  One thing is that we're seeing a huge global movement away from fur. Just recently, actually, Kenny Torrell, who's a writer who really focuses on factory farming and animal welfare, wrote about how Poland, which had been the world's number two fur producer, has phased it out completely. And we're seeing more of that in the United States. We're seeing that around the world, starting next September for the 2026 New York Fashion Week. There will be no fur at all that's joining other major fashion weeks around the world. So I think we're entering a future where we just won't see that anymore. And when you think of how big an issue that used to be, I mean, PETA and throwing fake blood on people with fur, like that to me is a major victory. Beyond that, we're starting to continue to see improvement in things like cage-free eggs,

• 22:44Speaker 04

  just slightly improving the welfare of the hundreds of millions, billions of hens that lay eggs for all of us. We're still seeing improvement, I think, in the technology of in vitro or lab cultivated meat, which, if that ever becomes really economical.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Have you ever tried it?

• 23:03Speaker 04

  Oh, I have tried it. I've tried lab-grown salmon. It's pretty good. I've tried lab-grown chicken, which tastes like chicken. It's definitely there. Like, the technology exists. It's just, of course, it is pretty expensive right now, but, you know, that was true of other technologies. And if we can do that, if that could ever actually happen, I mean, that would be just a sea change. I think we're going to look back in like 100 years as, you know, factory farming and being one of the worst things humanity is doing right now.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:31Speaker 04

  And that's a technological solution that, you know, it's got a long way to go, but I do feel hope that it continue to improve, continue to become a little more economical and actually start to make a difference in the real world. And it shows the difference that people, really dedicated activists, can make. You know, that you really had to change people's minds. Like, what happened there was... Convincing people over time that this was just wrong to do. You know, one of the things where it shouldn't at Future Perfect is how do we make successful change? You know, looking back, like, how did we stop awful things around the world? Like, how did we improve things like working conditions? It's never easy, it takes time. Sometimes you get technological improvements that can kind of sidestep that, like, maybe that will be lab-grown meat. But a lot of the time, it's to the hard work, the hard, slow, boring of changing people's

• 24:16Speaker 04

  minds. And one of the things I always feel most optimistic about is that there never seems to be a shortage of people who want to do that as hard as it is.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  Can you tell us about Future Perfect, too?

• 24:27Speaker 04

  Oh, sure, yeah. Future Perfect is a section at Vox that is dedicated to writing about things that are important, but also neglected, and then have what we call tractable solutions. So in practice, what that means is these big problems that, you know, are out there in the world that people just kind of accept.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  What is your most outrageous prediction for this year?

• 24:49Speaker 04

  I think my most outrageous prediction is that I think there is a, I believe I put 60% chance that an AI-generated song will top the Billboard Top 100. This has already happened, I believe, in country music. In the streaming charts there, there was an entirely artificial cowboy act that scored a number one hit.

• 25:20Speaker 04

  I mean, by the way, I'm not saying this is a good thing. To be clear, I'm not in favor of this. I want to put that out there right away, okay? Not in favor of algorithmic, non-real, human bands. That said, like, the technology is improving really rapidly. I think songs, the nature of them, makes them copyable, and maybe there's something about the way pop works today that makes that even more likely. But I do think there's a good chance of that happening over the course of 2026. And that's not a good news prediction, but, you know, it's crazy to think of.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  It is outrageous.

• 25:56Speaker 04

  It is outrageous, at the very least.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Thank you to Brian Walsh for helping me feel a little more optimistic about the state of the world. If you, like me, are in need of some good news, you can subscribe to his Good News newsletter at fox.com, and we will be linking it in the show notes. This episode was produced by me, Joanna Solotaroff. It was edited by Meredith Hoddinott and Sally Helm. Mixing and sound design from Erica Wong. Fact checking from Melissa Hirsch. Amy Pedulla is pure poetry, and Noam Hassenfeld is a top 10 AI country song. Jorge Just and Julia Longoria are our editorial directors. Bird Pinkerton immediately asked Platty, "Who? Who made your guitar?" "It was made by a bird." "A bird?"

• 26:49Speaker 02

  "Not just any bird," Platty replied. "A yard bird. Eric Flapton."

• 26:56Speaker 02

  Thanks to Brian Resnick for co-creating the show, along with Bird and Noam. If you have thoughts about the show, or some good news that's brightened your spirits, please send us an email or leave it as a comment. You can email us at [email protected]. You can also leave us a review or a rating wherever you listen. It is always appreciated. And if you're into supporting the show and all of Vox in general, join our membership program. You can go to vox.com/members to sign up. Unexplainable is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network, and we will see you next time.

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