Episode 342 - Ouija Boards Gone Wrong

October is in full swing, and we’re cracking open the door to the other side! We’ve got terrifying Ouija board tales pulled from Reddit’s darkest corners: a haunted doll harboring the sinister Tall Man, a Boy Scout camp session that unleashed something calling itself The Beast, and a pair of mischievous twins whose Ouija board session spiraled so far out of control that their mom ended up possessed. But what’s October without costumes and curiosities? Corinne is serving sexy, brooding Edgar Allan Poe and Sabrina is dripping in blood as Carrie. Our studio is crowded with haunted objects plus our ghost cam, cat ball, and EMF reader keeping us on edge. Will the spirits behave, or are we in for a month-long haunting? Links to Reddit stories in this episode: BoyScout Story Tall Man Thetruthishere Get tickets to the October 8th live show here. Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited by Jaimi Ryan and produced by Emma Leventer and Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:07Corinne Vien?

  Greetings.

• 2:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Palm night didn't go as planned.

• 2:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, she was pecked away by birds, ravens, if you will.

• 2:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are you responsible for the pig's blood?

• 2:17Corinne Vien?

  I guess. This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost. And we are your ghostesses. Today, we have Edgar Allan Poe.

• 2:25Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 2:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And Carrie.

• 2:27Corinne Vien?

  We're horror icons.

• 2:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I got blood everywhere.

• 2:32Corinne Vien?

  It was really fun pouring it.

• 2:36Corinne Vien?

  I can't laugh, my mustache comes off.

• 2:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You are the, like, I'm attracted to you as Edgar Allan Poe.

• 2:46Corinne Vien?

  Like, you like me as Edgar Allan Poe.

• 2:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're a hot Poe.

• 2:49Corinne Vien?

  Thanks. I don't even recognize myself, but I feel like I look like a puppet.

• 2:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So.

• 2:55Corinne Vien?

  Happy Halloween!

• 2:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Happy October.

• 2:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When did it happen? Corinne poured blood on me moments ago.

• 3:03Corinne Vien?

  We were using our curtain as a sheet for Sabrina to sit on.

• 3:07Speaker 04

  Can you see?

• 3:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Uh, I, yes, I am able to open my eyes now.

• 3:12Corinne Vien?

  Despite blood being all over one of them.

• 3:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Welcome to the first costume episode of October. And the beginning of what is and always has been the most haunted month here at Two Girls, One Ghost. We are dressing up for all of our researched episodes. And this month, we're also bringing in haunted objects.

• 3:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In two days' time, an episode will come out where we introduce all of the haunted objects that we will be introducing throughout this month. But today, we have with us Lily. And we have a ghost cam, which is our ghost tube. And if you're watching on YouTube, you can see the camera. So if she moves at all, or if the EMF reader goes off, or the ghost ball cat toy goes off, you can see that. But if you're listening, you can also just hear any EVPs or sounds or words. So weird of my hands.

• 4:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and we'll repeat things if we feel like they're important, pause-worthy.

• 4:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just showed my foot.

• 4:09Corinne Vien?

  There we go. You didn't show your foot. Carrie showed her foot.

• 4:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Carrie.

• 4:13Corinne Vien?

  Her bloody little foot.

• 4:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What would your mother think?

• 4:16Corinne Vien?

  You know what's funny is?

• 4:17Speaker 04

  Look closely.

• 4:18Corinne Vien?

  Look closely.

• 4:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At what? I have blood in my ear.

• 4:21Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, yuck, I hate that.

• 4:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I feel like I went swimming and I have to...

• 4:25Corinne Vien?

  Oh gosh, this is like really thick and syrupy. Costumes are commitments and we like them.

• 4:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You were gonna say something.

• 4:32Corinne Vien?

  Um, it's not super important. I was just gonna say, last year, we had so many costumes and Noah was not phased at all. And this year, he's like, I think he's gonna have nightmares.

• 4:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did feel really bad walking in like this.

• 4:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 4:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then also-

• 4:45Corinne Vien?

  He looked really concerned and he didn't, a little boo boo lip came out. He didn't wanna touch my mustache.

• 4:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bummer.

• 4:52Corinne Vien?

  I know. I'll put it on him later. You know, bro.

• 4:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One day, he's gonna be like, was this real or did I make this up?

• 4:59Corinne Vien?

  All of my memories of Auntie Sabrina are kind of traumatic.

• 5:06Corinne Vien?

  So let us know what you're being for Halloween and let us know what your guesses are for our next costume.

• 5:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, stay tuned for our next episodes. Uh, this was supposed to be our least intense costume.

• 5:16Corinne Vien?

  You do this every year. You set the rules and then you totally ignore them. You said, this is, this is our basic one. So I was like, great. I put a little bit of like brown under my eyes and I stick a wig on, slap a mustache on, and here I am, po.

• 5:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, to be fair, this episode and the next episode, I had to switch which is which.

• 5:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm sorry. Lily, you're welcome to communicate. You can't get through to us? I had to switch because we're gonna record Crimes of after the next episode that we record. So I couldn't go from this to-

• 5:50Corinne Vien?

  That was way less easy. I do need to probably do a bit of a shower after next episode or something before we record Crimes of.

• 5:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the vein of creepy haunted episodes, and communicating with the other side, I thought, what better way? Okay, let's pause. Something wants to talk with us. Is it you, Lily?

• 6:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What do you want us to watch? Want to watch the movie Carrie? So you are very attractive Edgar Allan Poe. You're just an attractive dude, creepy dude.

• 6:25Corinne Vien?

  So funny.

• 6:25Speaker 04

  Lori.

• 6:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's Lori?

• 6:28Corinne Vien?

  Lori also likes me now. So I guess if you're just tuning into Two Girls One Ghost.

• 6:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Welcome.

• 6:33Corinne Vien?

  Welcome. We don't normally have haunted objects with us and Lily, kind of like the too long don't read, is that she is a kind of mass-produced vessel that was inspired by an old tradition of creating these vessels as a form of protection in the month of October and can kind of ward off evil, but also almost acts as a vessel for other spirits to inhabit should they feel so inclined to need a welcoming host and Lily is that. So is she haunted at the moment? Probably not. I don't know.

• 7:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So as you'll see in episode or the haunted with that comes out in a couple of days, we had multiple objects here with us and so it was really hard to decipher who was communicating with us and when. So each episode, we're going to do them individually. And maybe we'll be able to look back and be like, oh, it was definitely that spirit communicating with us.

• 7:22Corinne Vien?

  Right. And kind of notoriously, our October episodes have had a lot of activity and a lot of our listeners have become haunted for the month of October or just after listening to some of those episodes. So we thought this year we'd bring in a couple of special guests. Make it worse. You know, like if the reactions can also be caught live in the moment. And if we can also identify, like, is this going to be a really haunting inducing episode? So we'll see.

• 7:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Stay tuned. Either way, we definitely recommend setting intentions. I think we could even say right now, and this is like a very basic one. So I recommend you do it for yourself, whether internally or out loud. Set your intentions. And your boundaries.

• 8:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, we do need to do that.

• 8:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We, you need to do that. Nothing dark, nothing malevolent, nothing malicious is welcome in our space, in our home, in our hearts and our souls. We are surrounded by love, light and positivity. We are protected and we do not welcome anything to touch us, to harm us, to follow us, to stay with us.

• 8:25Corinne Vien?

  Capiche.

• 8:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jinx.

• 8:26Corinne Vien?

  Jinxie.

• 8:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 8:28Corinne Vien?

  You owe me a horse, right?

• 8:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alrighty. I'll tell you a couple today.

• 8:32Corinne Vien?

  Ooh.

• 8:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, we are opening ourselves up, communicating with the other side, inviting a-

• 8:38Speaker 04

  Scratching, pain, it's dark.

• 8:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm sorry, it's dark.

• 8:42Corinne Vien?

  That was a lot all at once. Are you okay?

• 8:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are you in pain? And are you itchy? I'm gonna give you a little itch itch. These nails are perfect for itching.

• 8:50Corinne Vien?

  Scratchy, scratchy, scratchy.

• 8:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So like we are doing right now, opening ourselves up and communicating with the other side, I figured, let's start our October episodes with how that can go wrong.

• 9:01Corinne Vien?

  Of course.

• 9:02Speaker 04

  Singing.

• 9:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You want me to sing the whole episode?

• 9:04Corinne Vien?

  Tom McMiss sing.

• 9:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So we're gonna start our October episodes with an episode all about terrifying encounters of how using a Ouija board can go wrong, thanks to those of you on Reddit.

• 9:17Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god. It's like a confusing thing because I feel like I had such a huge fear of Ouija boards and I still kind of do, even though now we've played one. But it's like this weird back and forth in my mind where I'm like, well, if the right person uses it and they do it, we could have some cool stories.

• 9:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Setting intentions is the most important, boundaries is very important, and a lot of the people in these stories did not do those things. So the first one I'm gonna read and tell you.

• 9:44Speaker 04

  I don't need this.

• 9:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, you don't have to be here. Sorry, didn't mean to be rude.

• 9:50Corinne Vien?

  Okay, so we're gonna say, then leave.

• 9:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sorry, Carrie's gotten into me. I'm pissed. So this first one is called "The Tall Man: A Haunted Doll Gone Wrong." Okay, as we're joined by a haunted object, I thought, let's start with a haunted doll story.

• 10:03Corinne Vien?

  You sang that directly into my eyes. I feel like you just called me an object.

• 10:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm talking about Lily.

• 10:08Corinne Vien?

  I was like, wow, I'm nothing.

• 10:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I have been objectifying you, so I do apologize. Is anyone else attracted to Corinne as Edgar Allan Poe? Cause I am. Sorry if I'm making you uncomfortable. I'll keep my thoughts to myself.

• 10:20Corinne Vien?

  I'm snoring like a pig, bleeding out over Sabrina.

• 10:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this was originally posted on Reddit.

• 10:26Speaker 04

  Encouraging.

• 10:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Encouraging?

• 10:28Corinne Vien?

  They're encouraging you. Oh no, my button. Oh no. I have not my dimples have a button.

• 10:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Talks?

• 10:34Corinne Vien?

  I have not, I don't even know how Poe talks. I've definitely not done anything close to it so far.

• 10:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the very beginning, I think you opened up with it. So this story was originally posted two years ago on Reddit by Salt and Pepper 1997. The story is about Jen, and Jen grew up in a Catholic family. She was very much like, it was instilled in her, like, the fear of God. Don't mess with the occult. Don't mess with anything woo-woo Catholicism. And she followed that religiously until college. And then she met Kayla. When Jen went to college, she became friends with a girl named Meg, and Meg introduced her to two other girls, Becca and Kayla. And Meg had roomed with Becca and Kayla like the year prior.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Where are we?

• 11:12Corinne Vien?

  We're in the Two Girls One Ghost recording studio. The month is September 2025.

• 11:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jen like inevitably became friends with Becca and Kayla because she was really good friends with Meg. Jen and Meg spent a ton of time together, and oftentimes where there was Meg, there also were Becca and Kayla. And immediately Jen felt like something was off about Kayla. She couldn't figure out what, but she just got weird vibes. She tried to sympathize.

• 11:36Speaker 04

  Are you frightened?

• 11:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Should we be? As she learned more about Kayla, she tried to empathize with her and sympathize. And she was like, okay, Kayla has like a really kind of sad upbringing and history and could have benefited from going to therapy, but didn't. So Jen was like, maybe that's it. Maybe that's why I'm getting a weird vibe about Kayla. She's just got a lot in her past. But then over time, that weird feeling started to spread to Becca too. Again, she tried to write it off. One night Jen and Meg are alone in Meg's dorm room, and they're just talking about religion as you do with your friends, and they're both agreeing about how.

• 12:10Corinne Vien?

  As you do with your friends.

• 12:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As you do with your friends.

• 12:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, religion politics.

• 12:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And they're both kind of talking about how they grew up religious from their families, but they don't really feel stuck to one religion per se, but they have religious and spiritual practices that they do internally.

• 12:24Corinne Vien?

  So conversations you and I have had.

• 12:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, exactly. Like you have with your rent. And as they're having this conversation, Jen finally goes. So I get this like weird vibe from Kayla. And she's expecting Meg to just kind of like write it off or wave her off or be like, oh my, no, she's so nice. And instead, Meg's face kind of falls. And she goes, yeah, she feels the exact same way. And there's something that Meg never told Jen about Kayla. Meg lived with Becca and Kayla the year before, like I said. And apparently Kayla loved to use the Ouija board often.

• 13:00Corinne Vien?

  Can you imagine a roommate doing secret Ouija board sessions?

• 13:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well.

• 13:05Corinne Vien?

  Like, how do you even do that in secret?

• 13:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 13:07Corinne Vien?

  I think I was always busting in the rooms of my roommates.

• 13:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, so over time, I guess.

• 13:12Speaker 04

  Let me try.

• 13:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You want to try using a Ouija board? So over time, Meg and Becca would join in Kayla using the Ouija board. Then things got really strange. Meg started waking up in the middle of the night to see an enormous billowing figure in the corner of her room. She started having nightmares. Things in the apartment started to feel weird. And finally, it got to be too much. And she thought she was the only one experiencing it. So she hadn't said anything up until this point. It got to be too much. She basically goes, goes to Kayla and Becca and is like, I'm having these weird things happen. Like, what's going on? And Becca, too, had been experiencing things and was too scared to talk about it. And then they turned to look at Kayla, who's so nonchalant. She says, oh, that's just him.

• 13:59Corinne Vien?

  Uh, who?

• 14:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's exactly what she asked.

• 14:02Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 14:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then Kayla shares.

• 14:04Corinne Vien?

  Device?

• 14:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you're communicating through a device.

• 14:07Speaker 04

  Why are you asking?

• 14:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it's just a conversation. You take a turn, we take a turn, you take a turn again. Well, let's set another boundary. Lily or the spirit here, we'd love for you to converse with us regarding this story or if there's anything too scary about the story. Or if you feel some other presence join the room, please notify us. But we'd also like to share the stories. And then you can contribute after the stories. This is a podcast.

• 14:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We bring you here and then we tell you what to do. Yes. So Meg and Becca look exactly like you just did. Like, who the fuck is him?

• 14:44Speaker 04

  Are you from here?

• 14:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And Kayla explains that the entire time they've been using a Ouija board, they've been talking to who she calls "The Tall Man", who lives inside her doll. Kayla bitch said, "What?" That is when Kayla reveals that she has an antique doll that she basically got from her grandparents attic one time and took with her everywhere. And that the doll was haunted with an attachment that she called "The Tall Man". Oh my god. Hence this billowy figure that Meg had been seeing in her bedroom. So after that, Meg is like, "Okay, well, I'm no longer using the Ouija board. No more for me." But Becca and Kayla continued to use it. And there was one day where Meg walked into their shared room to find Kayla and Becca using the Ouija board.

• 15:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And as she walked in, the planchette flew off the board. And Kayla turns to Meg and goes, "He doesn't like having you around." And that's when things got even weirder. Obviously, Meg couldn't wait till move out, but she had to live there the next couple of months. The Tall Man began appearing to her more and more. One night, she found him standing, like, at the edge of her bed. And then every night thereafter, he got closer and closer and closer, until he was basically standing on top of her. Oh my god. She didn't know what to do, but after the night where he was basically standing on top of her, he never appeared again. And she was able to move out. Nothing really followed her. But so Meg is now telling Jen about this, and now everything's making sense to Jen. And Jen's like, "Oh, that's why I'm getting a weird feeling about Kayla.

• 16:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's got a weird creepy attachment and uses a Ouija board all the time." So a couple of weeks later, Jen runs into another friend whose name is Jess. And Jess is, like, stressed. Jen's like, "Hey, what's going on?" And Jess breaks down and is so, like, sobbing. So Jen and Jess go get coffee, and Jess goes on-

• 16:29Speaker 04

  I don't need this.

• 16:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know you don't like this story. Sorry. There's gonna be more. Jess tells her that she's been having some really, really bad experiences in her housing. She was being tormented. Cabinet doors were flying open and slamming shut. The front door was opening and closing. She literally had to call the police because she thought someone was breaking into her apartment. She, while trying to sleep, would be awoken by cold hands smacking her face. And so she had her sister come and stay with her. They both started seeing a massive billowing figure looming at the foot of their bed. And there was another night where she was showering when all of a sudden, like, all the bathroom cabinets started slamming. And then the shower curtain was, like, ripped open. And then when she, like, peered out, obviously terrified, she heard what sounded like feet running down the hallway.

• 17:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Can you guess what dorm this girl Jess was living in?

• 17:18Corinne Vien?

  The tall man room dorm.

• 17:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The same dorm room that Kayla, Becca, and Meg had lived in the year before.

• 17:25Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, you know what I don't like about that? It's like, clearly, this girl using this Ouija board summoned this being in. But now it's left there. So it's not like it's following her.

• 17:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or is it doing both?

• 17:39Corinne Vien?

  Oh, it's true.

• 17:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also Kayla's just like-

• 17:41Corinne Vien?

  Or was it always there?

• 17:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It sounds like Kayla's been talking to this tall man for a while. I don't know.

• 17:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, because she thinks it's attached to her doll, or what was the object?

• 17:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, haunted antique doll.

• 17:52Corinne Vien?

  Haunted antique doll.

• 17:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Basically, when Jen had run into Jess, she was trying to get a new housing situation. She was trying to leave her dorm. Unfortunately, she couldn't, so she had to live out the rest of the year in this place. And Jen, obviously, runs to Meg's and tells Meg this whole story. And so Meg is like, well, maybe we should talk to Kayla. Maybe Kayla can do something. Call him back. Call her tall man friend back. When she tells Kayla what's going on, Kayla just laughed and said, oh, yeah, well, because he doesn't like strangers.

• 18:20Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, that's ominous and creepy. Can you imagine? You're, like, being tormented by this thing, and it's like, well, it doesn't like you, because it doesn't know you.

• 18:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kayla's way too casual about it.

• 18:28Corinne Vien?

  Kayla's creepy.

• 18:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Kayla is creepy. Creepy Kayla. Unfortunately, Jess stayed in the apartment for the rest of the year, and things got- Let me try. And things got worse before they got better. One night, Jess and her sister were staying in the apartment when a crucifix in her room started shaking and fell off the wall. And at the moment- Restless. Restless? Are you restless?

• 18:47Corinne Vien?

  A restless spirit.

• 18:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As the crucifix fell off the wall, the closet door opened and shut, like, super loud. And Jess's sister was there, too, and Jess and her sister, like, held each other and started repeating, like, a prayer over and over and over. Yours. Not necessarily. And as they're repeating this prayer- You are chatty. This is way chattier than when we did-

• 19:09Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 19:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lily does like attention, apparently.

• 19:12Corinne Vien?

  That's what the instruction said.

• 19:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. So as I'm repeating this prayer over and over, all of a sudden, the room is like shrouded in a white flash, an enormous wave of light. And then everything went still. A very, very calm silence took over the apartment. And they never had an experience there again. She lived in that dorm for the rest of the school year, which was like three months, no problem.

• 19:33Corinne Vien?

  Wow.

• 19:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. That is the tall man.

• 19:36Corinne Vien?

  Can you imagine, like, college kids? I know we felt adults when we were in college, but like, you were just living with your parents. Like, you're still a child, really.

• 19:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You are a child.

• 19:46Corinne Vien?

  And now, you have to navigate adulthood, all the relationships, figure out who you are, figure out your own boundaries and responsibilities.

• 19:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 19:54Corinne Vien?

  All while maintaining degrees, or sports, or friendships, or whatever you're doing. And then, the place that you live in is haunted by-

• 20:01Speaker 04

  What's my name?

• 20:02Corinne Vien?

  creepy tall man?

• 20:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's my name?

• 20:04Corinne Vien?

  Well, I say that as if we both didn't live it.

• 20:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We did.

• 20:08Corinne Vien?

  You lived it way more than I did.

• 20:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you did freshman year. That's true. And you came in and saved me.

• 20:13Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I had my ghost hunting kit.

• 20:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You did. The spirit just asked, "What's my name?" You can be whoever you want. The doll that is in front of us has a name called Lily. And if you would like to be Lily, we can call you Lily. Spirit, who is here, how do you feel about the tall man? Friends? Foe? You don't know? Edgar Allan Poe? I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 20:40Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like, one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like, what's going on.

• 20:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 21:22Corinne Vien?

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• 21:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 22:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My next story is what I'm calling Boy Scout Camp and the Beast.

• 22:26Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, I like this. This feels like we're watching Goosebumps or like reading a Goosebumps.

• 22:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It does feel like that. You're having fun.

• 22:34Corinne Vien?

  I am.

• 22:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm trying to scare you guys.

• 22:35Corinne Vien?

  Oh, sorry.

• 22:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I guess it makes sense that Poe would enjoy this.

• 22:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 22:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. It is funny because I was, there are a couple of costumes that are coming up where I'm like, and I think we struggled with this last year too, where when you're dressed in costume, the theater kid in me comes out so badly where I'm like, well, I'm no longer Sabrina. I have to be.

• 22:55Corinne Vien?

  I am this other thing.

• 22:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like I'm embodying it, but then also I have to be Sabrina at the same time to do our podcast.

• 23:01Corinne Vien?

  It also feels unnatural almost to like be in a costume and not do something.

• 23:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And not be in character, right?

• 23:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 23:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 23:06Corinne Vien?

  Because you're like, why? I'm just randomly dressed like this.

• 23:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And talking like normal.

• 23:12Corinne Vien?

  Like a monster.

• 23:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like a monster. Cookie monster. That would be a fun costume.

• 23:17Corinne Vien?

  That's a good costume.

• 23:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I did look up how to DIY a La Boo Boo costume. And let me just say, it would have been way too much work, so.

• 23:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Also, I hate them. I think they're.

• 23:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're the burpees of our generation.

• 23:30Corinne Vien?

  Super ugly. I know they're supposed to be ugly. I don't understand it. I'm going to say some harsh words. I think they're dumb. I think.

• 23:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How do you really feel? I I just question why this is a trend. I do think their origin is really, really cool. Like, it was an artist who created these monsters, and then it blew up. So, good for you, creator of La Boo Boo. Yeah, people are selling them out at like gas stations. Yeah. The nail salon I went to is like raffling off La Boo Boo's. All right, back to Boy Scout camp and the beast. And this was posted five years ago on Reddit, but How old are you? I don't know how old he... Oh, my God, we didn't even talk about Sven's costume. Oh, my gosh. He's a ghost. He's like, I've been sick of being a skeleton. Just bones. Just bones. Give me a sheet. We gave him clothes. He's no longer nude.

• 24:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so this was shared by a user. The account has since been deleted, so I don't know who it is, but it's Boy Scout camp. I'm gonna give them the name Bennett. So, nearly a decade ago, Bennett was a Boy Scout at summer camp, tucked deep into the woods. The days were filled with hikes, swimming, laughter, so much fun. But there was a weird thing that happened at night. It always got really still and quiet and eerie at night. And as you do at camp, one night, they're all sitting around a campfire, the embers are slowly dying, and they're telling ghost stories. And as they're all scaring each other, one of the older scouts has a great idea. Let's get a Ouija board out. They pull the board out, and it's, you know, it's supposed to be fun. Mm-hmm.

• 25:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a bunch of boys. You love this? Great. This is perfect horror movie setting. Having fun. Bennett, who doesn't want to get made fun of, he's a little nervous about it. He's never used a Ouija board. He doesn't want to be left out. He doesn't be the like weird kid who doesn't join in. Peer pressure. So he joins. Mistake number one. Almost immediately, the planchette begins to move. It starts spelling names, it's answering questions. All of the boys are like accusing one another. You're doing it, you're doing it, all this stuff. Answers kept coming, clear, deliberate. So then Absolutely. they start to be like, okay, someone's gotta be doing this. Let's do some like tests and figure out who's doing it, right? So they do different scenarios where it's like, this group of four guys, boys,

• 25:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  you do the board, the rest of us will watch. Okay, now like swap it out, another group, and then They basically narrow it down and they realize that the board is way more active and like only really working if Bennett is using it. Oh, I hate that. Yes. So then, but their

• 26:06Speaker 04

  It's difficult.

• 26:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Their belief Chased? Well, something was chasing Bennett. They basically are like, oh, well, obviously that means that Bennett is the one who's manipulating the board. And Bennett swears, he's like, I swear, I'm not doing anything. And he's obviously feeling uneasy, but all the other boys are like, oh, Bennett, you're doing

• 26:23Speaker 04

  Why can't I come? Bring it to me.

• 26:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What do you want us to bring to you?

• 26:27Speaker 04

  Can you see me?

• 26:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're so chatty. We can't see you, but we can hear you. It seems like you are figuring out how to use ghost tube, so You can also use this to communicate.

• 26:39Speaker 04

  Mark.

• 26:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mark. They decide that they're gonna basically prove that Bennett's faking it. And so they're like, Bennett, you're gonna use the board alone and we're gonna put a blindfold on you. Because if Bennett is doing it, if he has a blindfold on, he won't be able to manipulate the board. Right. So they blindfold Bennett and they unbeknownst to Bennett, flip the board so Okay, oh my gosh, you literally read my mind, cuz I just now was like, okay, well, like if you think about typing on a keyboard, or even like back when we had keys on our cellphones, I didn't have to look at all. Right. You know, you can just do it. So I was thinking like, well, if he used it enough. So they flip the board so that rather than the alphabet like being spelt facing him, it's turned. Bennett has no idea, he's blindfolded, right?

• 27:22Speaker 04

  Moron.

• 27:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's a moron? Probably me, based on the last time we recorded with these haunted objects. It's not, I don't think it was her. That's true. She is not mean to me. There was one spirit who is not a fan. And we'll find out which one it is in Or maybe it was her, but now that I'm Edgar. Oh, she likes Edgar. You're no longer Corinne. Oh, you're thirst trapping everyone out there. Come on, write a little story about you. Or bury you in the floor and just hear your heartbeat.

• 27:56Corinne Vien?

  Nothing more romantic.

• 27:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, so they blindfold Bennett and still impossibly, it is spelling out words, it is answering the questions. So they're like, holy shit.

• 28:07Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 28:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's landing on letters, it's deliberate. And it's spelling things, but Bennett doesn't know what. So he's blindfolded, he can't see the board, but he hears like the gasps and the oohs and the ahs of the scouts around him. They're like, no way, that can't be real. He can hear the fear in their voices as they ask, who are we talking to? And now he hears someone spell out the letters as the planchette moves. B. E. A. S. T. Beast. A gasp moves through the others and Bennett's heart begins to race. Someone asks Bennett to stop and he swears behind the blindfold. He's like, I'm not doing anything, I promise.

• 28:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This time they really do believe him because the entire atmosphere around them shifts and changes. Gets thick, heavy. Bennett rips the blindfold off as the planchette is continuing to move under his fingers, this time spelling out the watcher. The beast, the watcher, whatever they're communicating with felt threatening, dark, malicious.

• 29:07Corinne Vien?

  Shoot, because part of me was hoping, I was like, what if it's just like some guy and his nickname was the beast with his friends and they're like, it's me.

• 29:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mr. Beast.

• 29:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, Mr. Beast, right?

• 29:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But now, you really want the spotlight. Yeah, everyone can see you. We could see.

• 29:21Corinne Vien?

  We could see the doll.

• 29:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But we unfortunately can't see your body. And maybe someone watching, listening can hear and see you in a different way.

• 29:29Corinne Vien?

  There's two other things to manipulate here too, in terms of communication. You can use the EMF reader, come close to it and we'll know that it's you if the lights spike. And then we also have this cap ball over here that lights up if you would like to touch it.

• 29:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So just as everyone is freaking out, Bennett's hands are still on the planchette. An icy chill creeps into his fingertips, starts in his fingertips and it moves up his hand, up his arms, filling his entire body, moving through his veins. And as it's moving up his arms, the planchette flies off the board. And in that instant. Bennett says his reality completely shifts like a dream. All of a sudden, the boys, the wilderness around him just disappears and he dissolves into this grainy, black and white world. He calls it a void that smelt faintly of smoke and iron. And there, in front of him, three shapes emerge from the gloom.

• 30:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're tall, skeletal outlines, human, but wrong. Their bodies rippled like shadows drawn in charcoal, smeared and smudged into motion, like smoke was clinging to them, drifting from their limbs in tendrils that reached out toward him like hungry, hungry fingers. Ew. Hippos, hungry, hungry hippos. Hungry, beastly hippos. He felt certain that these figures were gonna drag him into the fire. He recalls, like, whatever this reality that he shifted into felt like he was there for a really, really long time, but it was probably very short. This is so not fair. Rational. This is like, he ended up in the world that people do when they play paranormal

• 31:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  games, but he wasn't trying to play a paranormal game. He was trying to communicate through a talking board. Isn't that a paranormal game, though? Well, it's advertised as a game, but it's... And also, there are boy scouts at camp, playing it like it's a game. True. When he comes to, all the other scouts around him are horrified, rushing towards him, and he was later told that the moment the planchette flew off the board, his eyes started rolling to the back of his head and he began convulsing. Holy shit. He doesn't have recollection of that, because for him, he disappeared almost into a different reality. Oh my gosh, do they all have their, like, little CPR badges? Probably. I mean, not a bad group to have an emergency in front of, right? They're all training for something.

• 31:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He was okay, but Bennett was never really okay after this, because his whole reality shifted after this. He spent the rest of the time at camp, feeling lost. We like you. We like you. Who's we?

• 32:08Corinne Vien?

  Wait, maybe they do like you, Corinne. Whoever's here.

• 32:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was a different spirit.

• 32:12Corinne Vien?

  It was a different, okay, well, interesting. We'll see what happens in the coming weeks.

• 32:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So the rest. Don't come in. So the rest of the time at camp, Bennett spent it like in a daze, kinda like staring off. He has never touched a Ouija board since.

• 32:24Corinne Vien?

  I can't believe he didn't go home.

• 32:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, what can you do? Like, he just wanted to like ignore what happened, right?

• 32:31Corinne Vien?

  The beast stalking you and ripping you into the watcher? That indicates that like it's always watching you while you're there. Go to sleep and you'll be ripped into another dimension once more.

• 32:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And that's kinda what happened.

• 32:42Corinne Vien?

  Oh shit.

• 32:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ever since using that Ouija board, he's never touched one since, but he's never been the same. Actually, the camp that he went to apparently has banned Ouija boards since this encounter. But Bennett realized, and he's realized this in the years that have followed this encounter, that he never closed the session. No one did, so it was left open. In the years since, which was like 10 plus years ago, Bennett had started being haunted in very subtle and strange ways. Sometimes being woken from nightmares. Where in the nightmares, he's no longer himself, but the monster, the beast. Sometimes he sees flickers of figures at the edge of his vision, like he's being watched. Dreams plague him, strange landscapes, abstract places.

• 33:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's one dream that reoccurs where there's a woman who appears to him, who feels familiar and calls him by another name. And there was one time where he was in college when he woke up from these visions and he felt like he had entered an alternate reality, which is kind of what happened in that moment where he, to everyone else, he's convulsing, but he entered this like black and white realm.

• 33:46Corinne Vien?

  It's so strange, cause like in, in one way, I feel like the spirit is manipulating him and like forcing him to see these things. And then there's another part of me that's like, is he somehow connected to this thing where like they're one in the same? And he's seeing some of these visions because like it is him in a way.

• 34:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He is the beast.

• 34:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and that's why he was the only one that could tap in.

• 34:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 34:07Corinne Vien?

  It doesn't seem good. Part of him was reconnected that night in the woods.

• 34:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think multiple things happened that night. I think something dark started following him and because of it, he opened himself up to the other side and has been able to like tap into things that you and I just can't. But there was a family friend once, like after this encounter, who kinda like looked at him and was like, there's a dark energy around you. And he was like.

• 34:32Speaker 04

  Be careful.

• 34:34Corinne Vien?

  Be careful.

• 34:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know what to tell you. But yeah, that's the story of Boy Scout camp and the beast and how poor Bennett has been plagued by

• 34:42Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 34:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who knows what.

• 34:44Corinne Vien?

  See, this is the thing. It's like, sometimes when we do research, it's one specific case, right? But like on Reddit and in our own inbox, there are infinite number of people who are experiencing these things.

• 34:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 34:56Corinne Vien?

  Which is so scary that there are so many horrifying tales to tell. And I feel like that is part of the reason why we had such a fear of Ouija boards for so long. Because like, that's the number one denominator of so many of these stories. It starts with the misuse of a Ouija board.

• 35:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. And I think the most important lesson we have learned over the years is it's about proper intentions. And not tempting fate necessarily. Like, if you open yourself up and invite dark things in, they're waiting for that door to be opened.

• 35:28Corinne Vien?

  Right, which does make me question. So like, you know, Bennett and his friends, they didn't close out that specific board. So it's like, what do you do to close out the board after you no longer have access to it?

• 35:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have no idea.

• 35:40Corinne Vien?

  Maybe someone can tell us.

• 35:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, let us know.

• 35:42Corinne Vien?

  Witches!

• 35:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you have answers?

• 35:45Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 35:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Phone a friend.

• 35:46Corinne Vien?

  Phone a witch!

• 35:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Fun.

• 35:48Corinne Vien?

  That would be so great.

• 35:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello?

• 35:50Corinne Vien?

  It's like Creeps and Crimes calling Susan.

• 35:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. Okay, so then this story is another scary story about Ouija board gone wrong. And it's called, "Hey, uh, so Moms Possessed."

• 36:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So this user left their names out of the story, so I'm gonna call them the twins, because they're twins. The twins were normal kids, rowdy, bored, always down to get into something, a little bit reckless. They're like the kids out of a Stephen King novel, like The Stand. They rode their bikes, spent afternoons in bookstores, reading books about witchcraft, and daring one another to do dangerous spooky things. Things that they knew very little about. Oh, that went up to yellow.

• 36:31Corinne Vien?

  It is. That's the first time this is happening.

• 36:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello? The twins? Nothing spookier than a set of twins.

• 36:39Speaker 04

  How?

• 36:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 36:40Speaker 04

  She's hiding.

• 36:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Who's hiding?

• 36:43Corinne Vien?

  Where?

• 36:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, that creeped me out. One thing that they decided to dare each other about one summer was about using a Ouija board. So this one day, the twins decide to ride their bikes to Toys R Us and buy a Ouija board. You know, an ordinary Ouija board.

• 36:58Corinne Vien?

  Good old Hasbro nineteen ninety-two edition.

• 37:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. What did it say? Wave?

• 37:04Corinne Vien?

  Did it say wave?

• 37:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I can't tell. I can't read. I'm blind. So they buy an ordinary Ouija board.

• 37:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That, um, to terrify their family and them. At first, it seemed harmless. They set the scene like they'd read in books. So they lit candles. They did a ring of salt. They also scratched a pentacle into the floor because they're twins and they're kids. And at first, like, using the board, it was, like, very fun. The board responded playfully. Give small details that, like, they claimed no one should know. It even predicted the high school that the twins would attend, which turned out to be true years later. And I think it wasn't like a local high school.

• 37:41Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I was like, well, that's kind of predictable.

• 37:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 37:44Corinne Vien?

  But it is weird that they went so hard, right? Like, it's not just like, hey, let's go play the Ouija board. Like, they're, they're setting up the scene. They're digging a pentagram into their floor.

• 37:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It, it almost feels like they did set intentions in the beginning. Like, they lit candles. They, like, almost did a ritualistic setup. But so as time passed, this summer, as they continued to use the Ouija board, they grew a little bit careless and no longer set the intentions, no longer lit the candles in a ritualistic way.

• 38:13Corinne Vien?

  A feather was on me. The birds, they're finding me. And it's not from the raven on my shoulder.

• 38:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, where'd that come from?

• 38:19Corinne Vien?

  I have no idea. It's white, probably.

• 38:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In the chair?

• 38:22Corinne Vien?

  Does this have feathers in it?

• 38:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Probably in the cushions.

• 38:25Corinne Vien?

  Perhaps.

• 38:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So they now would just start playing. They'd light a candle or two, but more for the mood. And that's when the messages started to turn dark. The planchette would spell out curse words. It would taunt them. It would threaten them. And then they started hearing whispers in the room. A chanting that seemed to emanate from everywhere and nowhere. Oof. A sulfuric smell drifted through the air. And then came the night that changed everything. They're playing with the Ouija board, and one of the twins is like, if you're a demon, prove it.

• 38:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You don't have to stay here.

• 39:01Corinne Vien?

  But we cannot leave. I live here.

• 39:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will take you home with me, whatever entity is here. One of the twins says, if you're a demon, prove it. And then the twin takes one of the candles and like, kind of like drips wax, like kind of like as a taunting the entity. And the response is immediate. The planchette starts to violently move under their fingertips and the air turned so cold that they said they could see their breath.

• 39:25Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 39:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The sulfur smell got even more intense.

• 39:29Corinne Vien?

  Yuck.

• 39:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And from the dark comes a low, deep, inhuman, guttural growl.

• 39:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That sounded so scary in my clogged ears.

• 39:42Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 39:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was a good one.

• 39:44Corinne Vien?

  That. It seemed like it vibrated your whole upper torso when you did it.

• 39:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It did.

• 39:48Corinne Vien?

  It's like deep.

• 39:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That came from the depths. As this growl emanates through the room, all of the candles extinguish.

• 39:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Plunging them into a darkness.

• 40:00Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that's like one of the things that I wish all skeptics could just like sit there and experience that too.

• 40:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know.

• 40:06Corinne Vien?

  Although I think if you are skeptic, like there's, you're like, well, there has to be something. There was wind in that moment or it was just a coincidence.

• 40:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the groan.

• 40:14Corinne Vien?

  You don't want to believe it.

• 40:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Panicked, the boys just wanted to get out of there as quick as possible. So they do not follow any rules. They do not close out the session. They do not say goodbye. They literally throw it into a closet and run out of the room. That very night, everyone is sleeping in the house and one of the twins is plagued by nightmares. He is dreaming of himself watching himself sleep. So he is outside of his body, watching himself sleep. And he sees this like shadowy, smoky figure, watching his sleeping body like right next to him. He wakes up gasping in fear at 2:30 AM. At that exact same second, simultaneously, his twin brother wakes up screaming. It's so loud, it wakes up the parents.

• 40:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The parents run to find the twin who had just screamed in his bed, eyes open, paralyzed, gasping for air. And they're like trying to move him, but he can't move his body.

• 41:09Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 41:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And it looked like something was like pinning him down.

• 41:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just got chills.

• 41:16Corinne Vien?

  So brutal, yeah.

• 41:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The night terrors continued until finally his parents called a friend because they were like, something paranormal was happening. The twins had finally confessed, like, it's for sure.

• 41:25Corinne Vien?

  Closet.

• 41:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The Ouija board. The Ouija board that's in the closet. They brought a friend over who did some things and took all of the occult books and the Ouija board from the house.

• 41:35Corinne Vien?

  Can you imagine in that moment, just realizing how much you fucked up?

• 41:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, and you're terrified.

• 41:41Corinne Vien?

  And then being like, oh, my God, but I, I like did this to myself.

• 41:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You thought it was just playful?

• 41:46Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 41:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What did that say?

• 41:47Corinne Vien?

  But like, did they think it was just playful if they did that much research into the occult and everything like that?

• 41:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're kids, though.

• 41:53Corinne Vien?

  I know, but there's like seriousness in, in the readings and teachings of it unless they think that it's all just like part of the play.

• 42:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  When you're like 12 or 13, like, I don't know their age, but even when you read something like serious.

• 42:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  How serious do you think the world is, you know?

• 42:09Corinne Vien?

  I guess they, they found out.

• 42:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 42:11Corinne Vien?

  How serious the paranormal world is.

• 42:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So they thought it was over, right? They thought, you know, the board's gone, the book, like, all the books, the occult things are gone.

• 42:18Speaker 04

  Is this yours?

• 42:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it was far from over because a couple days later, they found their mom in her bedroom, sitting alone on the bed, using the Ouija board. But when they walked in on her. She is in a trance.

• 42:36Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yes!

• 42:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One hand on the planchette, another hand has like a pen and she's writing on a notepad.

• 42:43Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 42:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She is writing friends, like, in a frenzy.

• 42:47Corinne Vien?

  Feverishly.

• 42:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But her, she's like vacant. She doesn't even notice the fact that they walked in. One of the twins like, goes, "Mom?" And as he whispers, "Mom," she stops moving the pen.

• 42:58Speaker 04

  Are you recording?

• 43:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "We are recording." She freezes, but doesn't turn to look at them. It's like out of a horror movie. And slowly, she turns. Her head, the warmth in her eyes, gone. The mother that they knew is not there.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Punish the computer.

• 43:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "Don't punish my computer, please."

• 43:16Speaker 04

  "I'm eternal."

• 43:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  In a voice, cracked and broken.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  "I can't say."

• 43:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She snarled.

• 43:23Speaker 04

  "I told her."

• 43:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ow. And the boys

• 43:27Corinne Vien?

  I'm moving.

• 43:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ran terrified. Yeah, moving out.

• 43:30Corinne Vien?

  When in doubt, move out.

• 43:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Later, the twins confronted their mom. They were like, what the heck? Like, you were so terrifying. Like, why were you, like, also, why were you using the board? And she, at first, she denies it. She was, I wasn't using the board. The board's gone. But then she confesses and says that, like, she kept the board and has been using it in secret. But she was like, I'm just trying to communicate.

• 43:50Corinne Vien?

  But why?

• 43:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, her brother, I guess, had deceased, like, had passed away. So she was, like, trying to.

• 43:56Corinne Vien?

  She saw the seriousness of what her children experienced and then took away from that. Oh, I can't access the other side. Let me try to access my brother.

• 44:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. And opened herself up to who knows what. Because clearly, at this point, there's something dark attached to the board.

• 44:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I do believe that if you use a Ouija board and you do bring forth something dark, but you try to get rid of the board, I think that it's part of the board now. Like, unless you do some, like, ritual to cleanse it. I don't know.

• 44:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But so.

• 44:26Corinne Vien?

  I don't understand.

• 44:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Me neither. It took their aunt stepping in with holy water, prayers, and rituals to, like, finally banish what had been invited in. The activity stopped, but the house apparently was never the same. Even years later, there was a heaviness to it. There was a lingering shadow that no one talks about in their family anymore. Their mom still denies everything, and they very ominously, it's Reddit, but they say that their mom, like, sometimes they look in her eyes and they don't think she's there.

• 44:57Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I hate that. That so reminds me of the ending of Us.

• 45:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. Like, who is it really?

• 45:03Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, who is it?

• 45:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So those are terrifying, right?

• 45:07Corinne Vien?

  Oh, are you gonna uplift us?

• 45:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do have one positive.

• 45:11Corinne Vien?

  Who is she?

• 45:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God, I literally prepared a listener story that was uplifting because I did not think ever that you would go uplifting with Ouija.

• 45:18Corinne Vien?

  A little uplifting.

• 45:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's hear it.

• 45:23Speaker 02

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• 45:52Speaker 02

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• 46:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is a short one, but it was also posted on Reddit. It's from I'm a stay-at-home dad.

• 46:27Corinne Vien?

  Good for you.

• 46:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is not their personal story, but it's their parents' story. So before I'm a stay-at-home dad was born, it was his parents and his older brother, who was a baby at the time. And his parents had rented a house that the aunt and uncle had owned in the late 70s. But really tragically, the aunt had died by suicide in the early 60s in the back bedroom of the top floor. Shortly after I'm a stay-at-home dad's brother was born, the parents decided to use a Ouija board to try to contact the aunt. And they very much believed that they had communicated with her. They were talking to her. And after a few questions and answers, the planchette starts moving on its own. And it spells out M-O-

• 47:13Corinne Vien?

  Plausible.

• 47:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  V-E- Move. J-A-Y- Move J. The user's brother's name was Jason, and the parents would say Jay, like call him Jay a lot.

• 47:25Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 47:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So they're like, move Jay? Like, right now? Like, what are they talking about, right? This must be intuition or there's like a communication between the aunt and them. They take it as they should move the crib, where the crib is.

• 47:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 47:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They move the crib.

• 47:40Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. I already have chills.

• 47:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And a few days later, like truly two days later, there's a massive storm that a tree falls into the window of Jay's room and lands in the exact spot that the crib used to be.

• 47:54Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God. Holy shit. My entire body. Like, I'm freezing cold.

• 47:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have chills, too.

• 48:00Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my God.

• 48:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:01Corinne Vien?

  Thank God they listened.

• 48:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Isn't that wild? And thank God they used a Ouija board.

• 48:05Corinne Vien?

  I know. Well, I was gonna say, it makes me wonder, like, if there were other attempts by this spirit to warn them, and they just, like, weren't getting it. And it was like, okay, finally, I get to, like, literally spell it out.

• 48:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're spitting.

• 48:17Corinne Vien?

  My mustache is falling.

• 48:20Corinne Vien?

  It's also not on perfectly center.

• 48:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, it's a little crooked, which works for you.

• 48:27Corinne Vien?

  My little zany.

• 48:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But yeah, is that an amazing story?

• 48:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 48:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ouija board?

• 48:33Corinne Vien?

  Holy crap. Ah, it's just, it's like, why can't all Ouija board experiences be like that? Where like you get saved or some sort of like really important information that turns out to be true. This is strange. This is strange.

• 48:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Nothing about this podcast is not strange. That's very true. It's also gonna be strange when I drive home like this. Oh.

• 48:55Corinne Vien?

  The glue stayed on my face.

• 48:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:56Corinne Vien?

  The mustache came off.

• 48:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, wait, turn to look at me.

• 49:00Corinne Vien?

  What'd I do?

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The bottom of your braid is.

• 49:03Corinne Vien?

  Oh, is it out?

• 49:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  On the other side.

• 49:05Corinne Vien?

  Oh, shoot.

• 49:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It looks like Poe has.

• 49:07Corinne Vien?

  Guys, my rat tail.

• 49:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A rat.

• 49:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was.

• 49:11Corinne Vien?

  I don't think it's been out the whole time.

• 49:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Cause earlier, cause you poured blood on me outside.

• 49:15Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 49:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I was like, I'll stand outside as you go get in your costume and hopefully dry a little bit. So I'm not dripping wet in here, but your landscapers are here.

• 49:24Corinne Vien?

  Yes.

• 49:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I was in front of your house.

• 49:26Corinne Vien?

  They were in the back.

• 49:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But one of them came around.

• 49:29Corinne Vien?

  So you come around this side?

• 49:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hey.

• 49:32Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I did hear you say hi.

• 49:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then I was just thinking about, I am a blood soaked figure and standing in front of your house. Like, what if a neighbor calls the police and it's like, oh my God, this girl needs help?

• 49:43Corinne Vien?

  The neighbors know what I do, so I don't think they. Which is actually maybe concerning.

• 49:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was just gonna say, honestly, no one came by me except for your nanny.

• 49:51Corinne Vien?

  You also had like our, we were recording a TikTok, so.

• 49:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm dancing.

• 49:56Corinne Vien?

  You were standing there like in front of a selfie, circling the camera, so.

• 49:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Pouring the blood on myself.

• 50:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 50:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 50:02Corinne Vien?

  I have an email, this is called the Ouija board, that predicted the future.

• 50:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 50:07Corinne Vien?

  Hi, ghostesses. My name is Bella and throughout my life, I've had quite a few paranormal encounters. However, the one you might enjoy the most is actually from my mother. For background, my mom moved around a lot because growing up, her dad was in the Navy and they relocated for his job. When my mother was about 12 years old, she got the itch that many of us spooky girls experienced growing up. And that was to play with a Ouija board. Sensible. A sensible decision for a teenage girl.

• 50:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like Ghost Tube can take over. We've got one ghost in the room.

• 50:36Corinne Vien?

  You don't need to say anything. They'll be the, they'll chime in. She already had had some scarier paranormal experiences before this and thought that, "Yeah, yeah, maybe it will be a good idea to keep it a little more lighthearted with a Ouija board."

• 50:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Light-hearted.

• 50:48Corinne Vien?

  She and her friends asked the typical questions. And although they got some responses, nothing was quite notable, or so she thought. Towards the end of the session, my mom curiously asked if the entity she was talking to could tell her where she would be living in the next few years. And the response was George Washington. They asked again, and the response that they got was completely different. It answered Richland. My mom and her friend were quite confused as it changed the answer completely, so they didn't really think much of it. As some of the answers they got previously also didn't seem to make much sense. So they ended the session soon after, and nothing scary or spooky to report.

• 51:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Does this mean I have a street name?

• 51:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 51:29Corinne Vien?

  My mom ended up moving to a new state within a year, and it didn't seem to align with the Ouija board's predictions.

• 51:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's falling off.

• 51:36Corinne Vien?

  So she forgot about it.

• 51:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You want to just take it off?

• 51:40Corinne Vien?

  I'm gonna make it to the end of the story with my mustache. As I mentioned earlier, my mom and her family moved around a lot, and so it wasn't unusual for them to spend a year or two in just one place before moving again. When she was entering high school, her family moved once again. My grandparents and her ended up moving to Washington State, which, when she found that out, she was slightly freaked out. She tried to rationalize it. And when they first moved there, they had yet to pick out a house, so they stayed in an apartment in the town over, from which they eventually bought a home and where my mom would attend school. The apartment was located in Richland, Washington, on George Washington Way.

• 52:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Whoa.

• 52:18Corinne Vien?

  At that point, she had no rational explanation for this, and this was her reasoning for never wanting me to play with a Ouija board, which I should have listened to.

• 52:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What? But I feel like this is such a good reason to use a Ouija board, right?

• 52:32Corinne Vien?

  I hope you enjoyed a more lighthearted Ouija board story. I love your podcast. Maybe later I'll share some of my own experiences. Stay spooky, Bella.

• 52:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bella, you teased us with, with, "You should have listened to your mom's advice," meaning that you've used a Ouija board, meaning something scary happened, and you are just leaving us hanging.

• 52:48Corinne Vien?

  Wait, should I look to see if Bella emailed really quick?

• 52:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 52:51Corinne Vien?

  As my mustache continues to fall off. We won't yell at you, Bella, until we know that we truly need to. And yell, "We will." Because that is the only email you have ever sent us.

• 53:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  If I were in your home, I would dump a bucket of blood on you. I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. I mean, if you've watched Carrie, this is basically a message about having your period, so.

• 53:13Corinne Vien?

  Oh, there it goes. There she goes. But the glue is still stuck on my lip.

• 53:21Speaker 04

  I want to.

• 53:22Corinne Vien?

  Want to what? Want to kiss me right now?

• 53:26Corinne Vien?

  Miss me. I like-

• 53:29Speaker 04

  Come outside.

• 53:30Corinne Vien?

  Come outside? You want us to go back outside? Oh, are you outside?

• 53:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my God, what if one of my spirits is from the car?

• 53:37Corinne Vien?

  Oh, they're calling out.

• 53:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm coming soon. This wasn't as scary as it's been in the past.

• 53:44Corinne Vien?

  No. And I feel like my next episode, I thought was gonna be scary, and it's actually kind of not. So is this the October that we finally pull ourselves together and don't get haunted? We'll find out.

• 53:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have been told also, according to the rules of Lily, Lily is a protective spirit as well. So maybe by trying to be extra spooky and inviting haunted objects into our space, we're actually creating a safer space because we're really only bringing like good spirits-

• 54:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, true.

• 54:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  -into our space with us.

• 54:16Corinne Vien?

  So they're like, "Hello, no, this is my moment, my house." Hey, stop, don't touch me there.

• 54:22Speaker 04

  Leave here.

• 54:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Is my no-no square.

• 54:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, they're saying, "Hey, leave here."

• 54:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Exactly. Way to go.

• 54:26Corinne Vien?

  Have fun.

• 54:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Have fun. But let us know if you experienced anything or if you are picking up on anything that is coming through, through Ghost Tube or through Lily or just audio things that you're hearing on your end. And please email us all of your ghostly encounters, your scary stories. We can't wait to read them. They don't all have to be scary, but I like scary.

• 54:49Corinne Vien?

  Yes. And now is the moment. If you're like, "There she goes." Hey, I've been meaning to email them for a long time and you haven't.

• 54:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're telling you now.

• 54:58Corinne Vien?

  Do it now.

• 54:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do it during the spookiest season of the year. If you want episodes one week early and ad-free, go check us out on Patreon. We also have bonus episodes on there.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  Confusing.

• 55:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Are you confused about Patreon? Type in patreon.com/2girls1guyspodcast and find us there. We have campfire stories there. Thank you, Lilly, for joining us. Thank you, all of you. And a final intention setting, boundary setting. There are no spirits allowed to stick here in Corinne's home. There are no spirits that are allowed to follow our listeners, to harm our listeners, to harm us. We are only welcoming good, positive energy into our lives and into the lives of all of you who are listening. Shout out to Jamie Ryan, who edits, produces our podcast, and sometimes also has to be haunted.

• 55:44Corinne Vien?

  Yes, only positive energy for Jamie as well.

• 55:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And we will.

• 55:48Corinne Vien?

  See you on the other side.

• 55:59Speaker 02

  This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Football has a play for just about everything. You can go deep, keep it on the ground, or draw up something nobody sees coming. And whether you want to run a flea flicker or the tush push, you need a plan to fit your unique situation. That's why State Farm takes the time to get to know you, so they can help personalize coverage for your life and budget. Now that's a solid game plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.