Encounters x305 - Halloween Horrors

It’s finally Halloween (or close enough), and we’re bringing you a full lineup of chaotic, chilling, and occasionally hilarious listener encounters to celebrate the best night of the year. From demons who wear you like a sweater to family witchcraft gone wrong in a graveyard, the veil is getting thin… Stories include: A family of generational witches whose teenage prank with a Book of Shadows almost wakes the dead on Halloween night. A listener who accidentally becomes a demon’s “favorite” after using her as a skin suit. A spirit that gets a little handsy. A sixth-grader’s glow-in-the-dark Ouija board that summoned a friend named “Z”… and something living in a cage. So light your candles and salt your doorways because this Halloween, we’re finding out who (or what) is on the other side… and who’s ready to spank from beyond the grave. 👻 Book Mentioned: My Best Friend’s Exorcism by Grady Hendrix Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited by Jaimi Ryan and produced by Emma Leventer and Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Happy

• 2:16Corinne Vien?

  I like how we looked at each other as if we didn't know what we were gonna say, like, like Cat and Garth.

• 2:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:20Corinne Vien?

  But we knew what we were saying.

• 2:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's the word?

• 2:23Corinne Vien?

  It was just like, how are we gonna say it?

• 2:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right?

• 2:25Corinne Vien?

  This is Halloween.

• 2:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Halloween.

• 2:27Corinne Vien?

  Halloween.

• 2:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi.

• 2:28Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls and Ghosts.

• 2:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost.

• 2:31Corinne Vien?

  It's the best day of the year.

• 2:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Actually, technically, this comes out on the 30th, but it's basically Halloween.

• 2:37Corinne Vien?

  It's Halloween Eve.

• 2:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This whole month has been Halloween, and if you're like us, all year is Halloween.

• 2:43Corinne Vien?

  Yes, but we get to celebrate it especially.

• 2:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Extra.

• 2:46Corinne Vien?

  Extra.

• 2:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, we are your ghostesses. That is Corinne.

• 2:49Corinne Vien?

  Hi.

• 2:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm Sabrina, and the theme for today was just Halloween.

• 2:53Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I think we just have a variety of stories that are Halloween-ish.

• 2:58Corinne Vien?

  Relate to Halloween.

• 2:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Make you feel spooky and in the mood.

• 3:01Corinne Vien?

  Could argue every single story we get is related to Halloween.

• 3:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 3:04Corinne Vien?

  Ghost stories and ghouls and goblins.

• 3:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I am gonna be in Scotland.

• 3:10Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 3:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For Halloween.

• 3:11Corinne Vien?

  I wanted to ask what your itinerary is.

• 3:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 3:14Corinne Vien?

  But I also don't want you to just share where you are.

• 3:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I have zero itinerary. As of right now, when we're recording, I don't even know where I'm staying.

• 3:22Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 3:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So, unknown. I haven't had the time to plan.

• 3:27Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 3:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have too much other stuff going on that like.

• 3:29Corinne Vien?

  See your flights there and then nothing?

• 3:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:31Corinne Vien?

  Why don't you use a travel agent?

• 3:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No.

• 3:34Corinne Vien?

  You're the one that said that your family used them growing up all the time. You used them before.

• 3:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, I haven't.

• 3:40Corinne Vien?

  Why? How'd you plan Africa?

• 3:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I didn't use a travel agent.

• 3:43Corinne Vien?

  You did that yourself?

• 3:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Basically, yeah.

• 3:45Corinne Vien?

  I thought you said your family used them all the time when you were growing up.

• 3:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, my sister, my soon-to-be sister-in-law, Charlotte, her mom is a travel agent.

• 3:53Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 3:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Um, no.

• 3:55Corinne Vien?

  That's where I'm getting it all mixed up.

• 3:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And my mom loves to do travel groups, which, not knocking that. But also, it ain't for me. Okay, this is where I'm kidding. I just got bits and pieces and made up a story. Made a story up, yeah. We could totally play two truths and a lie, and I feel like there would be some things that we don't know. Yeah, that's a good idea. We should. See if we can trick one another. It's a day of tricks and treats, so the stories are not tricks. They're actually the treats. Okay, okay, as in like, I don't know what's about to happen. I'll go first. I'm gonna start with this one because it made me giggle. The time I was a demon's bitch. What an entry into a story. But then they said, actually, it might have been a Bogart, which I don't know much about. Yeah, no.

• 4:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello, friends. Hi, how are you? Do you wanna yodel it? Hello. That was really good. That was pretty bad. That was. Put her on a stage, you guys. She's tricking me, lying. Lying. Okay, side note. I worked at a daycare when, I love how they're like, side note, I know it's at the top, but like, before I get into it, okay. I worked at a daycare where it was a requirement to refer to everyone as friends, which was absolutely adorable in my opinion. And just like how now I can no longer ever say, I'm going to the bathroom. Instead, I say, I have to go potty. I still refer to everyone in my life as friends. Hi, friend.

• 5:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hi, friend. Except now I work at an urgent care, and so I'll be like, your friend is ready, or my friend is in this room. And at the beginning, all the providers were like, what's happening? Like, is it like your actual friend in the room? Wait, what's going on? Um, but no. So now everyone refers to everyone. It feels like not appropriate for that setting either to be like, oh, the friend's over here. And the friend is like, got a fork in their throat. At urgent care? Yeah, I guess that's the ER. I go to urgent care. Like, this isn't an emergency. Okay, my name is Katie, Sarah with an H if you're nasty. Oh, wow. And if you're confused, Katie is my alias. Sarah is my government name. Please use my name, whichever one you prefer. Oh. Damon knows where I am if he needs me.

• 6:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is chaotic and I'm so here for it. It's a trick and a treat. Okay, so this is all over the place. Sorry, I'm an ADHDer. And I'm also the worst at proofreading before I send it. I like to see all the errors after I've sent it because it's already too late. Anyway, welcome to my thoughts. I've just recently started listening to y'all, thanks to Morbid. And while I absolutely love them, I love that you guys focus on ghosts and experiences that you incorporate encounters into each episode.

• 6:33Corinne Vien?

  Let me just say at the top, the way that Sarah slash Katie is writing this is also the reason that I couldn't journal, because my journal entries were very similar to this. It's just like.

• 6:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A bunch of different things.

• 6:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 6:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have gone down a rabbit hole. There's this girl on TikTok who reads journal entries from like 2012.

• 6:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And one of them killed me. It was like, my mom got me a lip gloss today. I ate the entire tube. I'm a dirty, disgusting girl, but it tasted so good. It is hilarious.

• 7:08Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yuck.

• 7:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, Sarah Katie said, I usually. Sarah Katie, I usually listen to episodes, but randomly I'll watch on YouTube. But if you do read this, can you text me because I want to know which episode to listen to? Don't call me, I won't answer. But if you need answers, I'll respond to your text. Dead. Okay. So in 2018, I was going through some shit. Trigger warning for suicide talk and an ungodly amount of profanity. Sorry, not sorry. But in 2018, I was depressed and suicidal. And I was going through some personal issues at home. My coworkers were trying to convince me to take a mental health day the next day, but I told them that I would be there because I didn't trust myself to be home alone. And I didn't go. I texted my manager that I wasn't feeling well and I went back to sleep.

• 7:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I woke up, oh, that's like, thank goodness for these people at work. I woke up to the police banging on my door for a welfare check. Like I was in a bad place. My best friend lived in a duplex and she found a Bible in her closet. And the dumb bitch decided to read it as an atheist and non-believer. She also kept a Ouija board, or still keeps a Ouija board, in the trunk of her car with the planchette. Because her now husband doesn't allow that shit in their house. I don't blame him. So it's actually still in her car to this day. But anyhow, ever since she read the Bible, weird stuff started happening. She had sleep paralysis every single night. And when you walked past her bedroom to go to the bathroom, you would see a dark figure sitting on her bed out of the corner of your eye. The shape was almost like someone was sitting under the covers. But you could also tell it was a dark figure.

• 8:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It was weird. I would tell myself it was nothing and keep going. No double takes. It was later confirmed that it wasn't just me who saw this, so I wasn't crazy. And it made me glad that I never double looked to confirm what I was seeing. One night, our friend group was hanging out at her place. And she was in a bad mood because it was late and she was a grandma who's usually in bed by eight. We were watching scary movies and talking about Waverly Hills Asylum. And we were drinking grape juice out of wine glasses because we're classy like that. But I wasn't a fan of mine, so it was sitting on the ottoman. We're all on the couch and the glass of juice straight up lifts up, levitating off the table, scoots over an inch or two, and bam, slams on the floor, spilling juice everywhere. My god. I immediately got up off the couch and started cussing the bitch out,

• 9:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  telling him, I think the entity, that I didn't sign up to be Cinderella and I'm not his bitch, I'm not cleaning up after his fucking mess. Now remember, I was in a bad place. And at this point, I did not care if I lived or died. I at one point got so numb, I literally couldn't feel anything. Clearly, bad energy all the way. Just what demons prefer, or daemons, as Sarah slash Katie writes. I went home that night. I left her house at like 5:00 or 5:30 a.m., by the way. And I was sitting in my living room. So at this point, it's like 5:30 or 6:00 a.m. And I lived by myself when all of a sudden I heard rustling in my kitchen. After contemplating whether I should check it out, I walked into the kitchen. And I need you guys to know, I'm never that white bitch that investigates.

• 10:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But this time I was, and I figured it was just him, the entity that had been messing with my friend. And there was a bag of plastic cups that had been on my fridge now on the floor. And I asked him, "The fuck, bro? Why are you so obsessed with cups?" Fast forward a couple of weeks, I was driving in my car, again in a shitty mood, as I had been. And I realized I was going 60 in a 30 miles per hour zone. And I was like, "Oh shit." So I went to take my foot off the gas to hit the brake because I didn't need a ticket on top of everything else in my life. When I cannot move my leg. There was literal pressure on my leg pushing it down, preventing me from lifting it. So I start crying and I start going even faster because I can't take my leg off the gas. And it's being pushed down, making me go faster. Thankfully, it's late at night.

• 10:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Thankfully, there are hardly any other cars on the road, but I was terrified. And this whole time, I'm trying to lift my leg until finally, the pressure is removed. And my leg slams into the dashboard because I was trying so hard to move it. Meaning like the pressure pushing against it. Yeah. When it let go, her leg flew up. Jesus Christ. This is terrifying for it to happen during. While driving. I 1,000% believe it was him. This entity would bounce around between me and my friend. And he even once went to my friend's mom's house. And then after that, she never saw him at her place. My last instance with him pissed him off. And thankfully, he hasn't come around since. But I was having extreme anxiety issues and sleeping on my couch.

• 11:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was struggling to stay asleep for more than an hour at a time. And I was extremely sleep deprived, which is probably why I was more susceptible to sleep paralysis. But I also do believe this was this entity as well. I had never before ever had sleep paralysis, and I haven't had it since. I was asleep and I was paralyzed. I tried to roll over, but I see a shadow in the doorway of the hall. And I said, "You need to leave." And casually said, "I don't have time for your shit." And next thing I know, this entity is sitting on the couch with me and says, "I'm sorry, but I'm already here and I have to do it."

• 12:10Corinne Vien?

  What?

• 12:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I fucking lose it every time I think about him saying that because like, what? What does he have to do? But in that moment, I was like, ugh, whatever, fine. And next thing I know, he rolls me to his side, rips me open down the middle of my back, and literally puts my body on him like a fucking sweater.

• 12:29Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, ooh.

• 12:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I literally feel him putting his arms into my arms.

• 12:35Corinne Vien?

  Ew, I hate this so much.

• 12:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  As it's happening, I wake up. I'm on my back, my elbows are dug into the couch, and my back is arched, face bent backwards into the arm of the couch.

• 12:45Corinne Vien?

  Ew.

• 12:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, fully. I don't know why, but it seemed like it took at least a full minute for me to really, like, wake up.

• 12:53Corinne Vien?

  Jesus. I'm like, also picturing, because I had the emergency C-section, I'm like picturing the tugging feeling. That's where, oh.

• 13:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, and then, she says, "I have a shooting pain down my spine." All I could think about is if I were living with someone and they saw me in that position, they would for sure think I was possessed. And I somehow managed to get into this position while I was sleeping. It took me a long time to get back to sleep.

• 13:19Corinne Vien?

  So why did he have to do it?

• 13:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. Like, does he have a boss? He's got quota?

• 13:25Corinne Vien?

  How many bodies can you possess?

• 13:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. "It took me a long time to get back to sleep, but after that, I never saw him again." I think maybe I pissed him off by being such a smart ass or not caring or being scared. My friend is now having bouts of sleep paralysis again, and we joke that he's back. But if he is, we brought it on ourselves because we always talk about how we miss him.

• 13:44Corinne Vien?

  That, what? Why? Why do you miss him?

• 13:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But then, I was listening to Morbid's episode, and I realized that maybe this entity was a Bogart because he loved fucking with my friend's cats. That's the only thing I remember that may make him a Bogart, but I'm sure there were other things. He originally tried to catch me in sleep paralysis when I first stayed at her duplex, but I was smart-ish. My friend and I slept in the bed and kicked her now-husband to the couch, and when I heard footsteps, I immediately was like, fuck. Then I heard the cat toys, and I was like, oh, it's just the cats. Then I closed my eyes real tight, slid myself under the covers, as one does because of safety, and I turned to face my friend towards the wall and kept saying in my head not to look because I had a feeling. I left the next morning before my friend woke up and I texted her later that I heard footsteps, but it was probably just the cats.

• 14:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she nonchalant texted me saying, no, that was the demon. You don't hear footsteps from my cats. They are not heavy enough to make boot walking sounds. That's my story of a demon trying to fuck with me. Also, I have officially joined Patreon. You guys are awesome. And I may die trying to catch up between YouTube, Amazon and now Patreon episodes. I'm so far behind, but love you all.

• 14:55Corinne Vien?

  Oh, hey, Sarah, Katie or Katie Sarah. Why the fuck would you say you missed this thing?

• 15:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Maybe you don't have to because it literally put you on like a sweater.

• 15:03Corinne Vien?

  It's always within you. It's a part of you now.

• 15:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It reminds me so much of, speaking of Morbid, I read with them, um, My Best Friend's Exorcism by Grady Hendrix. And it does kind of remind me of that where it like entered the body of the friend.

• 15:19Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Ooh. I feel like this is the first time we've ever heard about like the actual experience of being entered and having a back and forth.

• 15:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And also like saying it that way, being entered.

• 15:28Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 15:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh.

• 15:29Corinne Vien?

  Or, and like the fact that he was like, I'm sorry, I have to. It almost sounds, well, I guess like I'm going off of urine flexion where it's like, I guess we need to defer to Katie.

• 15:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll say it differently this time.

• 15:41Corinne Vien?

  I'm sorry, but I have to. Right, exactly. So it's like.

• 15:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not like, I'm sorry, I have to.

• 15:49Corinne Vien?

  I say he, does this creature?

• 15:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:51Corinne Vien?

  Guy, man, demon, thing?

• 15:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Bogart?

• 15:55Corinne Vien?

  Want to do it or is this like a forced thing?

• 15:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, it also does, so I've been rewatching True Blood and it does make me think about in the show, like there are a couple of characters who get turned into vampires and they don't want to. They like want to be human, but they were unwillingly turned into vampires. And then in order to survive, they have to drink the blood of humans, but they don't want to, but they have to. Is this like in order to sustain your own life, you have to hurt humans? Like, is there some type of?

• 16:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You don't live if you don't do this thing?

• 16:31Corinne Vien?

  Right. Or, okay, so what thing happened after Katie was entered?

• 16:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. I really hate, I really hate the term.

• 16:39Corinne Vien?

  The way that I'm saying it. But like, part of me is like, what if this is some sort of like alien research thing too? Where it's like, I have to go in, or what if, okay, let's totally spin it. What if there was something that Katie had within her that she needed some extra assistance in? And that was this thing going in and trying to like, fix it for her? Like, I have to go in and change some things.

• 17:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like a mechanic?

• 17:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 17:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's gotta fix the engine.

• 17:06Corinne Vien?

  We accidentally left this behind in our last operation. You can be a lot happier now.

• 17:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's a very invasive. It's a very invasive procedure.

• 17:14Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 17:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, this is so random, but in a recent episode, apparently, and I, I own up to it, it's not even apparently. It's not allegedly, there's record of it. I kept saying mod podge instead of a hodge podge of like, things.

• 17:29Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I would have never corrected you or, because I think I also say mod podge now because of mod podge, the product.

• 17:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So everyone was commenting on the episode being like, mod podge is a product, it's like a glue that you use for arts and crafts. And I was like, nope. Now that's just what we call.

• 17:46Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well, why is it mod podge? Because of hodge podge? So now it's mod podge?

• 17:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's mod podge.

• 17:52Corinne Vien?

  It's still, the concept is the same. It's like.

• 17:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But so we say mod podge.

• 17:55Corinne Vien?

  Gluing things together.

• 17:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 17:57Corinne Vien?

  Making things.

• 17:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  An assortment of things.

• 18:00Corinne Vien?

  For crafting, mod podge.

• 18:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mod podge.

• 18:02Corinne Vien?

  In your mind and thoughts.

• 18:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  For our words, our vocabulary.

• 18:06Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, honestly, I forgot about hodge podge until you just said it.

• 18:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hodge podge sounds so wrong.

• 18:10Corinne Vien?

  Guys, we left that behind.

• 18:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's mod podge now.

• 18:12Corinne Vien?

  We're mod podging it. Okay.

• 18:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What do you got? A trick or a treat?

• 18:16Corinne Vien?

  They're all both. I believe, if I can remember correctly, I think I picked stories that happened on Halloween.

• 18:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I just picked scary to be spooky like Halloween.

• 18:25Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 18:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:26Corinne Vien?

  Although I can't always remember what I do.

• 18:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:29Corinne Vien?

  So we're gonna find out, because.

• 18:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Something entered you and made you pick it.

• 18:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 18:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 18:34Corinne Vien?

  Wearing me as a suit. Hey, do girls when ghosts. We have some stories for you guys. We and for ghosties. So you have our permission to use this and any other stories we send. Okay. So we're doing this talk to text because that's a lot easier. So a lot of these stories are going to come from my mother. She was there for most of them and I'm still relatively young, so I was not there to put it into my perspective. But we are this multi-generational family of witches. Oh, whoo. We're also going to send this to ghosties and see what they think because why not? Spooky season. Hell, yeah. So the first story is from the life of our mother and it's called Uncle Doug in the graveyard. Oh. And oh, this is a fun one.

• 19:16Corinne Vien?

  So I have an uncle who passed away and he was trained by my great grandmother, Barden. Everybody just called her Grandma Ma Barden and she was also a witch. He was a witch when he passed away. In what way as like a witch? Witchcraft. Oh. So my uncle was a witch when he passed away. And because he did not marry or have children, my aunt, his younger sister, was his heir. And she is a minister and her husband is a minister as well. Or I should say was because her husband has since passed away. But the Book of Shadows that belonged to my uncle was now something that my minister aunt has and uses as a coffee table book. She then gave it to my mother and I knew where it was. And this was in the early to mid 90s.

• 19:59Corinne Vien?

  And what happened was my brother found the book quite by accident. He was just rooting around the house and came across it and didn't know what it was. We thought it was interesting. And so he and a few of his friends decided to take it to a cemetery on Halloween night. This is so hocus pocus. Oh, my God. My brother was around 16 at the time and they brought a ton of candles. They do a chant and then all of a sudden the grave starts opening. Dirt starts coming out. No. Freak out. So they snatch the book. They go to the nearest payphone. They call my mother who called me at the time. And my daughter was still very young, so I left her in the care of my husband, her dad and his grandparents. And I met my mom at the cemetery. The first thing I noticed was there was no salt circle.

• 20:42Corinne Vien?

  So I had brought some salt with me and so I put out the salt circle because it's like a barrier. The witches. Literally. And then my mom went through the book really quickly, found a spell to counteract whatever had just been performed by my brother. And we walked around and did this ritual, which I absolutely hate doing. And then we made my brother and his friends push and shovel the dirt back onto the grave. We went home. My mom took the book. She threw it on the grill and lit it on fire.

• 21:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, no.

• 21:12Corinne Vien?

  So because of this, we lost a wonderful family artifact.

• 21:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that breaks my heart.

• 21:16Corinne Vien?

  I had not been able to get all the way through it or get any sort of copy of it, which really upset me. So the only thing I have left now is a ring from my uncle and some stories. And nobody will get that ring until I die. See you on the other side. This is from Marie.

• 21:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Marie, that like broke my heart.

• 21:34Corinne Vien?

  Right. And it's so upsetting because it's like the book, like you did.

• 21:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's not the book's fault.

• 21:38Corinne Vien?

  You like counteracted and like did good from the book. Like you used it to also protect. It's the fault of an adolescent teen who doesn't understand what they're doing.

• 21:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, that breaks my heart. Okay, Marie, let's have a seance and channel Uncle Doug and rewrite.

• 21:55Corinne Vien?

  Automatic writing.

• 21:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The Book of Shadows.

• 21:57Corinne Vien?

  Version two.

• 21:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would literally kill, like I will truly kill someone for a Book of Shadows.

• 22:04Corinne Vien?

  My, my.

• 22:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is my confession.

• 22:05Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. My dad had like a, he didn't have it, but it was like his great grandmother kind of had a version of it. It was like a Book of Shadows meets like one of the like death books where it's like.

• 22:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Where it has like family members.

• 22:15Corinne Vien?

  Photos of dead. Yeah. It, it, they called it the Black Book. And it was all like kind of more French style spiritualism. And I have no idea what happened to the Black Book. But like this was the thing of his childhood, the Black Book.

• 22:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I just feel like starting one now is so not legit. It will be legit for my future generations and stuff, but I want to inherit one.

• 22:40Corinne Vien?

  Right. Well, maybe just start one. Because this is also like, think about your future generations. If you include all the spooky stories of like trying to understand what's going on with your own dad and the spirits that are, have been like plaguing him. Like that is the fricking scariest lore you could ever start for future generations.

• 22:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No one's ever going to figure out my father.

• 22:59Corinne Vien?

  But this is like my great, great, great grandmother Sabrina's dad was possessed and she started a journey into witchcraft.

• 23:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this is actually how to break generational curses.

• 23:09Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. I mean, that, I think that that sounds really cool.

• 23:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know. I'm going to talk about me and my Book of Shadows.

• 23:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'll talk about all my dreams and stuff.

• 23:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so excited. I'm getting my whole body MRI scan from Prenuvo in a couple of weeks.

• 23:26Corinne Vien?

  It's honestly so important. It's like one of those things where getting older and aging has provided me so many anxieties about like what's going on.

• 23:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 24:08Corinne Vien?

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• 24:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 25:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, maybe we can write down all the times we've haunted our listeners because this is a story about how we finally haunted Peyton. Hello, I'm Peyton. She, her, they, and I'm definitely obsessed with your podcast, and I think y'all have potentially haunted me. If so, I'm honestly surprised it has taken this long, but how fitting that it finally haunts me on Halloween. This was sent from last year's. It was sent November 1st, so the day after. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, truly. Okay. Fresh. Little background, probably not necessary, but I've listened to your podcast since 2021, starting by literally binge listening to your podcast. I haven't had many ghostly experiences in my life, at least nothing major, but I was definitely a very creepy kid.

• 25:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So now I'm 24 years old and I love all things creepy, spooky, ghosts, cryptids, et cetera. I also dabble as a witch here and there, and I'm definitely affected by energies and can feel when a space is off, or if there's something there. Usually with your episodes, I play them out loud while I'm cleaning, while I'm working, or driving, basically when I'm doing anything. The only time I don't tend to play them out loud is when I'm dog sitting, because I'm usually at other people's houses. And I don't know what other creepy shit is in their homes, so I'm not about to fuck around and find out. But sometimes I do listen, just in my headphones, because obviously the ghosts can't haunt me if they can't hear the podcast, right? Mm-hmm. Right, that's easy logic.

• 26:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I've been listening in my spaces for years at this point, both when I was still living at my parents' house and now in my own apartment. And I also set intentions on the extra creepy episodes, and I've been fine. But then I got to the Smurl family possession, part one, episode a few days ago. I set my intention, I listened to it out loud, and everything was normal until yesterday, Halloween, when I finally got around to listening to the Smurl family possession, part two. I set my intentions again, don't worry. I listened to it during the day while I was working from home, and I didn't notice anything strange, until last night, Halloween. We have a medium-sized skeleton, probably one to one and a half feet tall,

• 27:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  that we had sitting up on our bench by our apartment door. That way, when we open the door, it's low-key the first thing the trick-or-treaters would see. This thing has been up for a day or two now, in the spot with no issues. Trick or treaters had slowed and my partner and I were chilling on the couch. Oh my god, you guys, as I'm typing, more things are happening. I'll add them at the end, but we're chilling on my couch. That's crazy. All of a sudden, we hear something fall, somewhere in our kitchen by the front door. I asked my boyfriend to get up to see what fell as we both literally jumped in our seats. And he tells me that the skeleton had fallen off the bench. My partner, not knowing I listened to a potentially haunting episode that will possess people earlier in the day, was immediately freaked out. Before he picked it up and put it back, he took a photo of it and the photo wouldn't focus.

• 28:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And the photo he did get, while standing completely still, is so blurry, it kind of looks like Mr. Skeleton had a rough night out partying.

• 28:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like you doing the splits. Yeah. Anyway, he puts the skeleton back where it was. We settle back down on the couch and 20 minutes later, it happens again. So we put the skeleton on the counter because we didn't want to be that upstairs neighbor who sounds like they're tap dancing every two seconds. I 10 out of 10 did not tell my partner that the episode y'all had covered came with a pre-warning, but he does know that I listen to creepy ghost podcasts and true crimes. So he sits down on the couch again and he starts to tell me he's feeling nauseous, to which I just stared back at him blankly and hoped he had eaten too much Halloween candy, even though I knew I had been the one eating the Halloween candy. Anyway, a few more things fell before we went to bed. But these were like pens rolling off the counter, et cetera, that could be explained away, so I try not to think about it.

• 28:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But here is what prompted me to write this email. Instead of after work like I intended, it was because I was listening to And That's Why We Drink and I paused it on my phone to better reread a message on my work computer, and then I continued to work without hitting replay. It was probably a solid 10 to 15 minutes when I was reading a different email and the podcast started playing again on its own. Well, ghosty, it looks like I'm pausing my work so I can write in. So as I'm typing that and said something happened, I literally heard something else fall. Nothing else has fallen this morning until I literally start writing this to you. I'm too scared to check what it was.

• 29:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh.

• 29:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, everything that has happened so far has happened in my kitchen and I just had a cord of an appliance, a handheld iron thing, think flat iron, but bigger for clothes, that was fully on my counter, had fallen onto the floor. So either the cord was at a weird wrapped angle that was slowly stretching out and then it folded and fell onto the floor or something pushed it onto the floor. Also, I have no mischievous pets or animals messing with me. Anyway, thanks for hopefully reading my story and I will keep you updated if more happens and I'll write in a different time to tell you about haunted dog sitting houses and how my partner saw a shadow figure watching him while he slept and how I'm convinced I was low key possessed by something as a child and the time I talked to my dead grandpa. See you spooky bitches on the other side, Peyton.

• 30:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 30:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, you're no stranger to the paranormal.

• 30:18Corinne Vien?

  Right, exactly, but I love that it is happening on Halloween. It's related to our podcast and I do love that her husband does not know that there was a disclaimer and that like really shouldn't have listened to it.

• 30:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then he was getting nauseous because that was a common thing that people were experiencing while listening to the Smurl episode.

• 30:39Corinne Vien?

  I know, the Smurl one had a lot.

• 30:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A lot.

• 30:41Corinne Vien?

  I feel like the PTD episode, the Smurl one and the Julius possessed were all like super triggering to people.

• 30:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I feel like a lot of our episodes just haunt people.

• 30:50Corinne Vien?

  Well, remember when I tried to start PTD and I like couldn't?

• 30:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You couldn't?

• 30:54Corinne Vien?

  And so then you took it over.

• 30:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And I felt totally fine.

• 30:57Corinne Vien?

  Oh, interesting. I have another one that I do believe happened on Halloween. Hello, ghostesses. I was listening to your latest encounter episode and I was reminded of an experience or maybe experiences that I had with a Ouija board when I was a wee lass in sixth grade. First, let me say, my babysitter bought me this glow in the dark Ouija board during the summer leading into sixth grade.

• 31:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that.

• 31:20Corinne Vien?

  It was from Toys R Us. I don't think she had any idea that these things could actually be dangerous. Luckily for me, nothing too bad happened, but here's the story. I remember clearly playing on Halloween with a girl from school who I had over, who was really cool and popular and who, looking back, I'm surprised was even hanging out with me on Halloween. It was all that glow in the dark Ouija board. Anyways, we were up in my room with the lights dimmed and we called upon, I'm only gonna say the name once. No, Z? Or maybe I'll just spell it. Z O Z O. It's almost worse that you spelled it. Because that's what the Ouija board does. Okay, I'll just say Z from now on. Yeah. I don't remember exactly how her and I became acquainted, but I do remember by the time this girl was at my house, I had some type of connection to Z.

• 32:04Corinne Vien?

  And this friend told me that she had actually died a brutal and tragic death a very long time ago. I always pictured her as this little brunette with wavy hair and a long, white, frilled dress. Not really a fancy kind, but a dirty and old-looking dress. She told me she was part of a traveling circus and that a bad man had killed her. Well, no duh, she's hanging out with you because she's like, finally, someone else who gets my spooky stuff. I vaguely remember the year seventeen something, and that could also be something that my brain just randomly inserted. Anywho, back to the Halloween night, me and this girl are in my room. Wait, now I'm confused. Was it this girl that was? Or if there was some like- Or was Z, sorry, I almost said it. Did Z tell her about the friend's past life? Or was Z pretending to be this person?

• 32:49Corinne Vien?

  Maybe we'll get answers as I continue to- Okay. Anywho, back to Halloween night, me and this girl are in my room. We're using the Ouija board with the lights dimmed and spooky Halloween sounds playing, which I'm sure did not help. It's not super clear what happened, but I remember the girl being really freaked out by the planchette moving. And it looked like her hands were off of it, which I also did. So it was clear I did not know how real this game could get. Z came off to me as this innocent, okay, here it is. Okay. Z came off to me as this innocent girl whose life was stolen from her and we had become friends. Okay. So she didn't know it was Z? She didn't know it was Z and this girl that was over for a hangout had no idea.

• 33:30Corinne Vien?

  So our listener was communicating through the board with Z, thinking it was just like some young girl whose life was tragically taken for like- Oh, because you're in sixth grade, how are you supposed to know about Z? Right. Ugh. I have vivid memories of that Halloween and the following weeks where I constantly had Z by my side. Sometimes we would hold hands. I would guide her wherever I went, comfort her when she shared small bits and stories from her previous life. But something always felt sinister and off about her. Like, it wasn't really my choice that she was attached to me and sharing these strange memories. It was like they were being used to manipulate me and even me believing a certain narrative that she was pushing.

• 34:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like to have that gut feeling, but it's contradictory to the story you've been told.

• 34:12Corinne Vien?

  Right. And it's like all just bizarre too, because it's like you're experiencing something paranormal. So you're like, is this, am I right to be questioning what's going on? Like, it's all different.

• 34:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh my god.

• 34:21Corinne Vien?

  Eventually, I also came in contact with someone called Toby. Toby was a menacing presence. Not someone who was invited, but someone who took advantage of how naive we were to the game. I also don't have a super clear memory of when Toby and I came into contact. Besides that, it was through the board and his presence was the most ominous and threatening. I know that Z was apparently evil, but in my memory, she was just being targeted and oppressed by Toby. But maybe that's what she wanted me to believe.

• 34:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, almost like, just from what we know about Z, like, is Z trying to make our listener scared of something else so that she trusts Z even more?

• 34:59Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 35:01Corinne Vien?

  Ooh. That year Paranormal Activity 3 came out and the demon in the movie was named Toby.

• 35:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh!

• 35:07Corinne Vien?

  Anyhow, to get to the spookiest part. One time after I decided that I would no longer be frequenting the Ouija board, I got home after school. I'm still in the sixth grade. I walked home to an empty house every day and would be alone until around six or seven o'clock when my parents usually would get home. At that time, we had a cat who loved to be on the sofa, so we had this large sheet of plastic covering said sofa during the time that we weren't using it. And one time, I got home from school, ready as hell to blow off my sixth grade steam by watching some Phineas and Ferb.

• 35:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Love.

• 35:37Corinne Vien?

  I pulled up the plastic sheet, I threw it dramatically in the air, and as it came down, it formed onto the shape of a very tall, skinny man.

• 35:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No! Oh my god, I hate...

• 35:50Corinne Vien?

  But also, can you imagine just being like a ghost standing there being like, oh, are we about to watch TV? And just getting like assaulted with a sheet just covered? I can see the plastic moving with each breath that this guy took.

• 36:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No!

• 36:02Corinne Vien?

  I stood there paralyzed, but maybe only for a second, before I smacked that plastic sheet like a bitch and it crumpled down to the floor. I only used the board once more after this, and it was at a hotel for my friend's 12th birthday. One of the girls there had lost her father not too long before and apparently we did come in contact with him. She asked him to prove it and he called her this weird ass nickname that I don't even remember, but it was really, really unique. But apparently it's what he called her as a kid. That night, I felt someone touch my foot and my mind suddenly went blank only to see this bright white exploding earth. I don't know what it meant, but I cried after a while. Fast forward around 12 years later and I still have that board. It's in my closet somewhere.

• 36:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I hope you closed out these sessions.

• 36:49Corinne Vien?

  I've never gotten rid of it due to fear of it showing back up again. Hearing other stories of how horrible the interactions with Z can be, it made me question whether I encountered the same being, but there's no doubt in my mind that the guy living in a cage in my room is evil. Okay, what the fuck. I just came back to these notes that I was gonna email to you and I don't even remember writing anything about a guy living in a cage in my room being evil. There's no guy in a cage in my room. Anyways, that's my story. See you on the other side. Love, Georgia.

• 37:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Georgia.

• 37:26Corinne Vien?

  So it was supposed to end with, has me questioned if I even encountered the same being.

• 37:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then it literally said that the guy in my-

• 37:33Corinne Vien?

  The guy.

• 37:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Being kept. I was wondering if the cage detail was weird.

• 37:36Corinne Vien?

  I know. I was like, is that just like a metaphor for like if the Ouija board being like closed and tucked away?

• 37:43Corinne Vien?

  But then that sentence, there's no doubt in my mind that the guy living in a cage in my room is evil.

• 37:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, okay, that makes me think there's some other entity that was like, I need to make it very clear that the man-

• 37:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 37:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Toby is evil. And that he's still living in her room.

• 38:00Corinne Vien?

  Right. Or is it Toby or is it the little girl that gave bad energy that might be, it could be even Toby? Or it could be Z or all of them could be Z.

• 38:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We might need to get rid of that Ouija board.

• 38:10Corinne Vien?

  But the fear of it showing back up. If it hasn't done anything so far, except for maybe write really scary notes on your phones app, then I'd say leave it.

• 38:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  At least it's in a cage. It's trapped.

• 38:20Corinne Vien?

  It's trapped. It's in a cage. Maybe this is what it wants. It wants us to be scared to release it.

• 38:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, don't release it.

• 38:25Corinne Vien?

  And then someone finds it in the trash or the antique store and then it becomes a thing again. But right now it's trapped in a cage. The evil's trapped. We're good.

• 38:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're good.

• 38:33Corinne Vien?

  Keep it in the closet.

• 38:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I mean, I'm not good, but.

• 38:37Corinne Vien?

  Wow creepy.

• 38:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm so, I don't trust this. This feels like a trick.

• 38:44Corinne Vien?

  It does feel like a trick.

• 38:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is a trick. Okay, what do people think we should do? Should we?

• 38:49Corinne Vien?

  Georgia.

• 38:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What should Georgia do? Leave the board or get rid of the board? Let us know in the comments, wherever you're listening.

• 38:58Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and then Georgia, it's your choice to listen to people or not. Don't let us influence you. Do what feels right, but people are very intuitive who listen. So maybe there'll be an overwhelming suggestion and then that might feel

• 39:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 39:10Corinne Vien?

  like the right path.

• 39:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I have.

• 39:12Corinne Vien?

  Not that Georgia was asking for advice, but we're trying to solicit and give some.

• 39:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Georgia kept that portion in because you very easily could have been like, oh, that's weird.

• 39:21Corinne Vien?

  That's weird, delete.

• 39:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

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• 40:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, well, I have one that's kind of silly to end this on.

• 40:29Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 40:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is from our listener, Andrew. Hi, ghostesses. My name is Andrew and I've been a listener since mid 2023, when I stumbled upon your podcast while looking for some haunted stories to listen to to help me get through my long workday at a hospital. I've always had a bit of a paranormal sense, as it were, and you two helped fill my day with creepiness and joy. That's such a compliment. I know. I've got countless stories from astral projection, time dilation, to a hat man haunting my old apartment. Though if I were to list all of my experiences, we'd be here for days. So I'm gonna share a couple of short ones. I'm gonna save the Halloween one for the last one. This one story is less of a one-off and more of a couple of experiences than one. I live in the middle of nowhere in the upper Midwest, and because of that, I see deer every so often.

• 41:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Some of these deer, though, are, for a lack of a better term, wrong. They're not deer? Some of them just don't behave like deer should. Like, they don't freeze up when I end up in their presence, or they'll just act more carnivorous than they should. Ew. Such a weird way to describe it. Ugh. Or I'll get that feeling that something dangerous is nearby. One time, I saw a set of hoof prints turn into something like human prints. Like, watching them, like... Oh, so creepy. Seeing them evolve on the ground. Wait, where is this? Do we know? Upper Midwest. I don't know. I don't think they're flesh pedestrians, since those aren't really a thing up here, but the other options are just as bad. Thankfully, nothing has happened yet with them, but I can just tell that there is something out there.

• 41:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now, this story takes place on Halloween 2024. I had to work that day, so I started the day with my usual routine. I woke up at 4:45 a.m. to get ready for a 6:45 a.m. call, so I could receive the night shift's report. Only, something fell off. Now, I talked it up to just being Halloween and the veil being a bit thinner as a result. So I finished getting ready, and I start walking to my car, when all of a sudden, I feel a whack on my ass, like something spanked me. Oh, way. Obviously, I whip around, ready to rip someone a new one, since that's very much not okay. You don't just smack someone's ass.

• 42:33Corinne Vien?

  Absolutely not.

• 42:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But no one was there. So I did what any sensible person would do, and I told whatever it was that it was not okay, got in my car and locked the door, because you know, a locked door obviously keeps non-corporeal entities out. After I got to work-

• 42:47Corinne Vien?

  I mean, black-eyed kids at work.

• 42:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It does, true. After I got to work, the feeling went away, and the rest of the day was pretty uneventful. Though, I occasionally do still get that same feeling that I got that day. Meaning, there is a ghost waiting to spank you at any time, Andrew. Anywho, those are just a couple of the experiences I have. Thanks for reading. I will see you both on the other side. Andrew. That's the story of the handsy spanking ghost on Halloween.

• 43:11Corinne Vien?

  Can you imagine? It's like, you wait for Halloween night, the veil is thin, from the perspective of a ghost, and that's how you choose to-

• 43:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  To wind it up?

• 43:20Corinne Vien?

  Just ready, ready smack-

• 43:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With your hand.

• 43:24Corinne Vien?

  We threw in 65 days for this.

• 43:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, for years, to smack Andrew's ass.

• 43:30Corinne Vien?

  Jesus. Andrew, I'm glad that you were setting boundaries, like, hey, don't- That's inappropriate.

• 43:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I would totally smack ass as a ghost.

• 43:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Only people you know, right? No. It's pretty not. A ghostly assault.

• 43:45Corinne Vien?

  I'm a ghost.

• 43:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm gonna do anything I want as a ghost.

• 43:50Corinne Vien?

  No, actually- I realized, I'm gonna fight crime. I'm gonna arrest you for smacking ass.

• 43:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ghost crimes.

• 44:00Corinne Vien?

  Ghost crimes.

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I want this to be, like, a- Actually, there's a new show on Netflix called, I think it's like Haunted Hotel or something like that, and it's a cartoon. And it's with Will Forte in it, and everyone on Patreon during Campfire Stories kept saying to, like, watch it last week, so I was like, oh, like, this will be a fun thing to put on. And I, and I do enjoy it, but it, it's almost like Ghosts, the, the show-

• 44:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But as a cartoon.

• 44:23Corinne Vien?

  Oh, maybe I should watch it with Brian then, because he likes ghosts. That's the only paranormal thing I could do with Brian.

• 44:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, he might like that, though.

• 44:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 44:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But it is fun. Um, it's a whole hotel that they are having a very hard time getting guests to stay up, because it is so extremely haunted, and each ghost kinda has its own thing that it does.

• 44:40Corinne Vien?

  Its own backstory. I like that. You know what I've never watched that I really want to? Is, um, now I'm gonna blink on the-

• 44:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Do you know what it's called?

• 44:47Corinne Vien?

  But it's like the two guys that are haunted and it's like they like go ghost hunting. What are their names?

• 44:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is a real show or?

• 44:54Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, or no, no, no, no, it's fake. It's like kind of funny, but it's also a little bit like Men in Black.

• 45:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't think I've heard of this or know it.

• 45:01Corinne Vien?

  No, you do, you do. Oh, it's called Supernatural. I didn't, I didn't see this on here, but it just-

• 45:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That description is so-

• 45:09Corinne Vien?

  I didn't do it right?

• 45:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like you described it as if it's a comedy.

• 45:15Corinne Vien?

  They're funny, Sam and Dean.

• 45:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but Men in, Men in Black is not an association I would make with Supernatural. But, okay, yes, I have heard of Supernatural.

• 45:25Corinne Vien?

  I feel like the lines, like what they say is silly.

• 45:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, but it is more-

• 45:30Corinne Vien?

  Horror.

• 45:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Serious, yeah. It's got like a bewitched vibe to it, but it's two dudes.

• 45:35Corinne Vien?

  But I feel like bewitched is light in terms of what the paranormal has to offer. In comparison-

• 45:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's some dark shit too.

• 45:43Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well now I want to watch Supernatural.

• 45:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, and now I want to watch Practical Magic. It's Halloween. What are you doing? How are you celebrating? What are you watching? And how are you inviting the ghosts into your home? And were you spanked by a ghost on Halloween? And was it me from the future?

• 46:03Corinne Vien?

  If you want that, manifest it.

• 46:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Manifest me smacking your ass. I'll do it. Got my hand ready. No, I have realized, like in middle school, it was very much a thing like you like smack your friends asses. And I think it still has like stuck in me-

• 46:18Corinne Vien?

  It's still in you.

• 46:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That sometimes I feel tempted to smack my friends asses. And I'm like, wait, that's like not appropriate. I can't, like, I shouldn't do that.

• 46:26Corinne Vien?

  At this old age.

• 46:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I don't think I have a relationship with anyone where I can just smack ass.

• 46:33Corinne Vien?

  I saw a TikTok clip of someone who, I don't know what they do, like maybe eyebrows or like lashes or something, but they were filming. They're like a tech and clearly they were playing to the, the audience and were close to the person. And she's just filming herself and she's like, before I begin to have permission to touch you. And the woman goes, yes. And then she reaches over and just really quickly honk, honks her boobs. And the woman is like-

• 46:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You gave permission.

• 46:57Corinne Vien?

  Cause it's like, you know, you're assuming whatever. It is so funny.

• 47:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jerk.

• 47:05Corinne Vien?

  But I feel like it's a, yeah.

• 47:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's like an intrusive thought where I just wanna tap, tap, and it's like a love tap. It's not like a full wind up.

• 47:14Corinne Vien?

  It's like, don't they do that in baseball? What's the sport that they all smack each other's booties?

• 47:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like all sports.

• 47:20Corinne Vien?

  Those men in their sports constantly.

• 47:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And their tight pants.

• 47:23Corinne Vien?

  Grab an ass.

• 47:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why are their pants so tight?

• 47:25Corinne Vien?

  To make the spanking easier.

• 47:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What were they wearing?

• 47:28Corinne Vien?

  What were they wearing? Tight pants.

• 47:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Actually, baseball pants have gotten looser and it's changed the view.

• 47:34Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh.

• 47:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Experience.

• 47:35Corinne Vien?

  Whoever, sorry, I'm not into sports, but whoever manufactured the uniforms for baseball like last year or the year before. Atrocious job.

• 47:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 47:44Corinne Vien?

  They're all see-through. They're so gross. It's like, I normally like to admire the amount of glute work that goes into a sport. And here I'm just distracted because I'm like, I see their pockets.

• 47:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There was a change and I wasn't a fan. I don't like sports, so that's why we have a ghost podcast.

• 48:01Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, we are actually at the opposite end of.

• 48:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Very opposite.

• 48:03Corinne Vien?

  You either like sports or you like ghosts.

• 48:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can like both. We don't judge, but we like ghosts.

• 48:08Corinne Vien?

  So you're a little bit more of an anomaly?

• 48:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:11Corinne Vien?

  A little unicorn.

• 48:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A little unicorn.

• 48:14Corinne Vien?

  Oh, we love you. We just wanna have you so little and keep you in our pocket.

• 48:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, would you rather a unicorn in your pocket or a fey? Like a pleasant fey?

• 48:25Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh, pleasant fey.

• 48:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think I would like a unicorn.

• 48:28Corinne Vien?

  Really?

• 48:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:30Corinne Vien?

  But I can talk to the fey.

• 48:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You can talk to anything. You can talk to a wall if you wanted.

• 48:33Corinne Vien?

  Okay, but I want them to talk to me back.

• 48:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  A unicorn, we don't know. Unicorn could talk back to you.

• 48:37Corinne Vien?

  That's true.

• 48:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What would you rather? Well, I don't know where we, how we got here.

• 48:41Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. It's because you're thinking of our two truths and a lie where we try to trick each other.

• 48:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Also, what would you do as a ghost? Would you smack ass? Or would you watch from afar?

• 48:50Corinne Vien?

  Or would you have a really big juicy ghost booty where you try to tempt other ghosts to smack your ass?

• 48:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 48:57Corinne Vien?

  Ghost trap.

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Anyway, we love you all so much and we hope you have the best, the spookiest, if you want, and the safest Halloween. Can't wait to tell you all about Edinburgh. Do you have a family costume this year?

• 49:12Corinne Vien?

  Well, you gave Noah a cow outfit that was too big for him last year. And that's my plan if we can get

• 49:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All of you will be cows?

• 49:20Corinne Vien?

  It's in, well, I was gonna do like, you know, farmer, cow, whatever. That's, that's the plan if we can get into the storage.

• 49:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so cute.

• 49:27Corinne Vien?

  But the backup is maybe we're all just skeletons, which was a suggestion of a neighbor because Noah's so obsessed with skeletons.

• 49:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, that was Noemi. Last year, she was obsessed with skeletons and they all dressed up as skeletons.

• 49:40Corinne Vien?

  Oh, okay.

• 49:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This year, she's

• 49:41Corinne Vien?

  Maybe it's a skeleton crew.

• 49:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Now she's obsessed with princesses.

• 49:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh.

• 49:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The natural progression.

• 49:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next year, Noah's probably gonna be like the UPS driver or something.

• 49:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, cute. Also send us your costumes. We love to see what you dress up as and get ideas for next year.

• 49:58Corinne Vien?

  We love you all. Happy Halloween. Shout out to Jamie and Emma, who help our team in Two Cross One Ghost. We love you and we will see you on the other side.

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