Encounters x274 - Paranormal Potluck

This week, we let fate decide as we pull topics at random, leading us down a rabbit hole of sweet, sexy and sinister stories. Who knows where the conversation will take us – From ghostly whispers to spine-tingling personal experiences, every story is a mystery waiting to unfold. Will we summon a spirit from the archives? Stumble into a conspiracy? Accidentally invite a ghost into the studio? (It wouldn’t be the first time.) This supernatural smorgasbord includes: A mother receiving messages from beyond from her late child. A home with dark energy linked to the Boston Strangler. Sexy time with a GHOST Ouija board warnings and a session gone wrong. Stay spooky, and we’ll see you on the other side! 🔮 Watch the video version here. Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] New Episodes are released every Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! This episode is sponsored by Quince, GoPure and Graza. All Quince items are priced fifty to eighty percent less than similar brands! For your next trip, treat yourself to the luxe upgrades you deserve from Quince. Go to Quince.com/tgog for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order. goPure Beauty developed their revolutionary Tighten & Lift Neck Cream designed to visibly firm, smooth, and rejuvenate the delicate skin on your neck and chest— For a limited time, our listeners get 25% off goPure when you head to gopurebeauty.com/TGOG, use code TGOG at checkout. Graza is our favorite olive oil! Head to Graza.co and use TGOG to get 10% off of TRIO which includes Sizzle, Frizzle and Drizzle, and get to cooking your next chef-quality meal! If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hello.

• 1:22Corinne Vien?

  This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

• 1:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Two girls, one ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That's Corinne.

• 1:28Corinne Vien?

  Hello.

• 1:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I'm Sabrina. And this is an encounters episode where you email us your ghost stories or paranormal encounters that you have had, and we read them back to you. And we've been hinting at this one for a while because on Campfire Stories, we came up with this idea, and I think probably our listeners came up with this idea, and we're taking credit for it, where we put a bunch of different topics into a hat, or a bowl, or a cute little jar. And we pick the theme out, and then pick a story based on that theme.

• 2:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. So because we've started theming our encounters, we thought it'd be nice to do kind of like a grab bag.

• 2:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Random draw.

• 2:07Corinne Vien?

  The kitchen sink of ghost stories.

• 2:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, I like that.

• 2:10Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, so we we picked out some topics that were either suggested by all of you or themes that just came up time and time again in our inbox. So we're gonna each take turns pulling something out of the mason jar and then we're gonna find an email in our inbox. Luckily for you, you don't have to watch us for 10 minutes scroll through the inbox editing.

• 2:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, I was just looking this morning. I think we have like 11,000 unread emails of ghost stories.

• 2:37Corinne Vien?

  We still read stuff from 2018.

• 2:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 2:39Corinne Vien?

  Like it doesn't matter if you sent it a long time ago. We will find it.

• 2:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We will find it.

• 2:44Corinne Vien?

  And we will read it. Okay, the topic is, oh, pregnancy woo woo.

• 2:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  This is perfect for you.

• 2:51Corinne Vien?

  I know. I feel like we got a ton of them when I was pregnant with Noah, so this is a topic that we have a lot of.

• 2:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes.

• 2:57Corinne Vien?

  Pregnancy woo woo. Content warning for pregnancy loss. Okay, this is called, My Daughter Named Herself.

• 3:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wait, that's so fun.

• 3:06Corinne Vien?

  Hello, Sabrina and Corinne. You lovely ladies have helped me dip my toes into the more spiritual side of things and I love you for it. I'm not gonna gush. You girls already know what you mean to your audience. I'm not sure how to start my story. I'm not even sure if I've told anyone all of this. It's not spooky. It's not scary. It's just how my sweet baby daughter chose her name and let me know everything was going to be okay. When I fell pregnant with my daughter, I was absolutely over the moon. I was very excited but also cautious as I had suffered a miscarriage a few months before. I also worked in an environment where I see pregnancy loss and all things that could go wrong during pregnancy and birth. That's gonna be so hard.

• 3:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 3:44Corinne Vien?

  Fast forward, my first obstetrician appointment after my 12 week scan, I am told that it looks like my baby has some abnormalities that may resolve itself, but worst case scenario would need to have corrective surgery after birth. Fast forward again to about 25 weeks gestation and on top of my baby's health concerns, it did not correct itself. I find out that my cervix has shortened and I am put on bedrest.

• 4:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Just the amount of things that pregnancy can bring about.

• 4:12Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 4:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And you just, you don't know until you're experiencing it.

• 4:15Corinne Vien?

  And too, some people that do have to go on bedrest have to like be in the hospital on bedrest, like for weeks just laying there.

• 4:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Jeez.

• 4:21Corinne Vien?

  Due to what we know about my baby, I have to drive about four hours to a hospital that has specialists who can care for us. After about a week on bedrest at home, I'm admitted to this hospital and that is where I stay until my baby is born.

• 4:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So literally that, yeah. Damn.

• 4:37Corinne Vien?

  During this time, my partner is traveling down when he can, but we still don't know the gender and I'm really worried that we haven't decided on any names. And during his super quick visit, we finally knuckle down a short list of boy names and one girl name. I'm still concerned that we need another girl's name, just in case we have a daughter and it doesn't suit her. And that night, I have the most vivid dream. I was standing in the hallway of my partner's parents' house and I hear my parents' dad singing loudly, "Lolly, lolly," as this bubbly little girl with gorgeous sandy colored curls bounds out of the hallway that I'm in. She flashes me the biggest smile

• 5:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 5:14Corinne Vien?

  as I ask if she's being cheeky. I wake up and I just had this feeling that that was my daughter.

• 5:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, lolly.

• 5:22Corinne Vien?

  Lolly. Oh, I have chills already. Very soon after I went into labor and in a flurry, I have an emergency cesarean under general anesthetic. My partner arrived at 10:09 PM, just one minute after the baby was delivered. The first thing I remember from waking up was hearing that I had a baby girl.

• 5:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Hmm.

• 5:39Corinne Vien?

  The first thing I asked was, "Did you tell everyone her name?" As I was wheeled into the NICU to meet my baby girl Lola for the very first time. We got to spend seven amazing weeks with her. She passed away on the 31st of December.

• 5:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 5:51Corinne Vien?

  Never once during my pregnancy did I think that I would leave the hospital without my baby. Never once did the thought of medical termination cross our minds. And I know that I was meant to have her. I know that we were meant to be her parents. In fact, now that I'm writing this, I remember that in our early days of our relationship, we discussed how we both had this feeling for a really long time that our first child would have a disability. Okay, so not very ghosty. Now it just feels like I'm telling someone my story. But fast forward again, I am pregnant. And this time, the pregnancy is smooth sailing. The baby is healthy. I started medications to help prevent my preterm labor and I had that pesky cervix stitched shut, literally. During this time, my- Partners' mental health declines, something shocking.

• 6:34Corinne Vien?

  And now essentially I'm doing this solo even though we were technically still together. So I'm starting to freak out. What if I can't love another baby like I loved her? Is this disrespectful? Do people think this is just gonna fix things and erase her memory? Despite my desperate wishes, I didn't get many signs that everyone talks about having when someone passes away. But then, another dream. This time, I was walking through this beautiful garden. And in the beautiful garden was an enclosure with this monkey with beautiful, big eyes proudly showing off this smaller monkey. And she was holding it out for me to see, almost like she wanted me to take the little monkey.

• 7:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 7:11Corinne Vien?

  My dad gave Lola a charm bracelet for Christmas with a charm of the same monkey in my dream, which she was actually cremated wearing, so she would always have it.

• 7:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 7:23Corinne Vien?

  I woke up knowing that this was her. She was showing me her baby brother. She was so dang proud. She was letting me know it was okay and that she wanted this for me.

• 7:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And she was probably hoping, I'm like, but also like she's, she's ushering her baby brother into this world too, like,

• 7:39Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 7:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, I've been taking care of him, and now it's your turn.

• 7:47Corinne Vien?

  I now have a wonderful three-year-old son with the same sandy-colored hair and that big smile that the cheeky lolli in the hallway had. Said partner and I are no longer together, although I feel like life has given me a lot of twists and turns. I really do feel like this life was meant for me. Your podcast has introduced me to so many ideas that have helped me with this thing, like the invisible string theory. Anyways, thank you for your time reading this. Love you ghouls, see you on the other side, Brooke.

• 8:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, Brooke, I'm really sorry for your loss. That's so devastating. I'm curious if your son ever like talks about lolli and the girl with the sandy-colored ringlet.

• 8:25Corinne Vien?

  Lolli, which is such a cute nickname for Lola.

• 8:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Lola, yeah.

• 8:29Corinne Vien?

  Lolli!

• 8:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so sweet.

• 8:31Corinne Vien?

  Oh, and then just appearing as the monkey, the monkey charm bracelet, which clearly meant so much to her, you know, like that connection to her family, to her grandpa.

• 8:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She's a little monkey, just a little monkey. Oh. Okay, well, we'll see if we get to pivot or if we stay sad.

• 8:49Corinne Vien?

  The next one's gonna be like demons.

• 8:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Let's see. Ooh, real estate and house hunting.

• 8:56Corinne Vien?

  Nice.

• 8:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 8:57Corinne Vien?

  Good old haunted house?

• 8:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We have plenty of those, let me tell you. Okay, I have one from our listener Sarah, and there are a bunch of different hauntings in this email, but I'm gonna read the haunted house portion.

• 9:11Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 9:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Dear Ghostesses, your podcast has been the soundtrack of my pregnancy. Some people crave certain foods, but for some reason, this baby wants ghost stories.

• 9:20Corinne Vien?

  I love that.

• 9:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Between reading every supernatural thriller I could get my hands on and midging two girls, one ghost, there's no way this child isn't going to be obsessed with the paranormal as much as his mama. I have always loved everything paranormal. As a young child, my favorite bedtime story was I Shit You Not, The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. I grew up around folks who accepted the supernatural and death as part of life, going to cemeteries and telling ghost stories. Now to the ghost story about a haunted house and house hunting. This is called the Boston Strangler Victim? Question mark.

• 9:51Corinne Vien?

  Oh, God.

• 9:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So I've always had a bit of a reputation for being sensitive about places. I would never really label myself as psychic or clairvoyant, but for as long as I can remember, I've always gotten feelings about places, both good and bad. I have lots of little anecdotes about this, but I'll spare you to get to the most memorable. I lived in Boston for two years for grad school, and while I was there, it wasn't unusual to have classmates to invite me to tag along when they were apartment hunting. As y'all know, you're really taking a risk apartment hunting in a city this old.

• 10:21Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah, which reminds me of my friend Allison, who would always ask every real estate agent, is this place haunted?

• 10:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're right.

• 10:27Corinne Vien?

  And they'd be like, no, no. And she's like, really? And they're like, well, maybe.

• 10:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 10:31Corinne Vien?

  She's like, okay, cool.

• 10:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They're trying to gauge what she wants to hear.

• 10:33Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 10:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's always good to say no first as a Realtor. And then if the person's like, but I want it to be, then, then, yeah.

• 10:41Corinne Vien?

  Well, then every place is haunted.

• 10:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, truly. And also, it might not be the place, it might be the person. Okay. So two very good friends of mine were looking for a new place after our first year. They'd had a bedbug outbreak that was poorly handled by their landlord and left them both understandably very squeamish. So they got a Realtor and scheduled a bunch of showings and invited me to go with them. Our campus was at the intersection of Mass Ave and Huntington and they wanted to stay nearby. I never lived that close. I was in Brighton and Brookline, but they weren't very fond of the tea as I was. So they wanted to be able to walk and they could afford it. We saw four apartments that day and three out of the four were perfectly fine. Typical student housing in downtown Boston. The same cannot be said of the unit we saw on Gainesborough Street.

• 11:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It should have been perfect. It was such an easy walk, closer than the other three to school, to transportation and great amenities. But I could not wait to get out of that building from the moment the Realtor unlocked the door. In fact, I didn't even make it past the front door. I stood in the threshold of that apartment the entire time. I don't have a clue what the bathroom looked like or the bedrooms because I hovered in the doorway for the entire five minutes. It took my friends to realize that I was very uncomfortable, at which point they told the Realtor that they didn't really like this one and move on to the next. I love this because their friends basically were like, we need you, Sarah, to be here.

• 12:00Corinne Vien?

  You're the gauge.

• 12:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 12:02Corinne Vien?

  Is it haunted?

• 12:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 12:03Corinne Vien?

  Haunted or not, they're like, it's perfect. And then they looked at Sarah and Sarah's like, mm-mm.

• 12:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, yeah, if your sensitive friend is not walking into the apartment, you should never live there.

• 12:12Corinne Vien?

  You know what's funny is almost every single time I go see an apartment or a house that one of my friends has recently moved into, without a doubt, everybody asks, do you feel anything here?

• 12:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 12:21Corinne Vien?

  I was like, no, your place is great.

• 12:23Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. Yeah, that's fair.

• 12:25Corinne Vien?

  Most of the time I don't feel anything.

• 12:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. I feel like unless something has like a really, really bad energy, you're probably not gonna

• 12:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 12:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  feel it. Okay, Sarah said, we went out to dinner down the street that night and obviously my friends asked, so what happened at that place on Gainesboro? I explained that I didn't really know what happened, but it was not good. In fact, I was pretty sure that whatever happened there was very, very bad. Even though the common space, the kitchen and the living room that I could see from the front door had great natural light and a really cool old fireplace, the entire space felt dark and heavy and I knew I didn't want to go in. That was enough for them to turn it down, but it didn't stop us from Googling the address, 79 Gainesboro Street. Now, as y'all know from your recent episode on the Boston Shangler, the first victim was killed at 77 Gainesboro Street.

• 13:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What needs to be added, however, is that after the murders, the addresses on Gainesboro were renumbered. 77 Gainesboro is now 79.

• 13:22Corinne Vien?

  Holy shit.

• 13:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  All right, that's enough out of me. I have a 10 more experiences. I will write more. Keep doing what you're doing. Stay spooky. See you on the other side, Sarah.

• 13:32Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my gosh. I wonder if it was the actual apartment? If she was just picking up the vibes of the building, or if it was the actual? It makes me think it was the actual apartment because she wouldn't go through the threshold of the door to the unit.

• 13:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 13:44Corinne Vien?

  Whoa.

• 13:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's so sad, too.

• 13:47Corinne Vien?

  Very, very sad. I just really hope that with the energy there is just a residual stain that doesn't have any, like, life to it.

• 13:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 13:56Corinne Vien?

  And that that first victim of the Boston Strangler isn't actually.

• 13:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Still stuck there.

• 14:00Corinne Vien?

  Yeah. Although there is a lot of talk with the Boston Strangler in terms of paranormal activity, that that man's spirit is kind of like stuck in the places that he did the heinous crimes.

• 14:11Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like horcruxes.

• 14:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 14:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You have to like split off a part of your soul to commit such a heinous crime.

• 14:16Corinne Vien?

  Totally. So, I mean, it could be, it could be him.

• 14:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, I mean, the amount of darkness that has to exist in someone to commit that type of murder, or like to commit murder, period, is dark.

• 14:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but like, to your point, like, that type of murder is a little bit different because he was hunting people down.

• 14:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  That's true.

• 14:36Corinne Vien?

  There's a lot of planning and intent and.

• 14:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Geez. I am curious from Sarah's friends' point of view, like, because they clearly didn't pick up on that. They picked up on it once they saw that Sarah was feeling weird, but they didn't pick up on that energy. Because I also feel like there are certain places that people who aren't sensitive will walk in and be like, no.

• 14:57Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like my realtor and Brian, we walked into one house and we, all three of us were like, no.

• 15:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 15:02Corinne Vien?

  And this house should have been, we should have been really dazzled by the square footage of this house in the neighborhood.

• 15:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I actually had that happen in LA. It was like Nick and I at one point had just been like walking around Playa del Rey. There was an open house and we're like, let's just walk in, have fun. Instantly, it was like bad vibes. Similarly, had a lot of bright light, but felt stuffy.

• 15:23Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 15:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, it felt like there was an atmosphere of suffocation.

• 15:27Corinne Vien?

  It also makes me wonder, too, like, the people who previously lived in those places, like, what? Why are they moving to? Like, was there something that happened?

• 15:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right.

• 15:35Corinne Vien?

  The energy is just so bad.

• 15:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 15:38Corinne Vien?

  Man, I, there was this one house that Brian and I went to that was petite. And like not like something that we had originally been looking for.

• 15:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm hmm.

• 15:49Corinne Vien?

  But I was obsessed with it because it smelled and felt so good. It smelled like.

• 15:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 15:55Corinne Vien?

  It smelled like doing laundry day in front of an open window.

• 15:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like on a summer day?

• 16:00Corinne Vien?

  On a, on a summer day, but like specifically by the sea.

• 16:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 16:04Corinne Vien?

  And I literally went into the basement to their laundry because I was like, what do they use? And it was just normal tide. So I was like, that's not what I'm smelling though. And they had already moved out of the house. So it was like staged with very basic furniture. And I could not find any little plugins, like nothing. And I have no idea why it smelled so peaceful.

• 16:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know if you've felt this way before, but have you ever been to someone's house? And it has like such a good smell or their laundry smells so good that you're like, what do you use? And then you see, and it's like the exact same thing you use or you try to replicate it. And it just doesn't ever smell the same.

• 16:39Corinne Vien?

  It's so weird. It's like.

• 16:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's like the smell of love.

• 16:41Corinne Vien?

  I guess so. Yeah. It, why?

• 16:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I don't know.

• 16:45Corinne Vien?

  I don't know. Okay.

• 16:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So strange. You're up.

• 16:49Corinne Vien?

  I just picked the first one.

• 16:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, you did a quick, you didn't even shuffle around.

• 16:52Corinne Vien?

  Ooh, sexy.

• 16:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ah, I'm so jealous. But also I get to, I get to enjoy it.

• 16:57Corinne Vien?

  Listen, sexy ghost stories.

• 17:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My favorite type of story. So.

• 17:02Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 17:03Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We call to action. Let's get your sexy ghost stories, please, so we could do another whole entire episode about them.

• 17:09Corinne Vien?

  I already found one. House quit.

• 17:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're locked and loaded.

• 17:13Corinne Vien?

  Locked and loaded. Well, you type in sexy. It's like, there's so many males. It's very sexy.

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• 19:56Corinne Vien?

  Hello ladies, I'm gonna start this one by saying, please do not use my name in the story. Okay, thank you for saying that.

• 20:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, say that upfront.

• 20:03Corinne Vien?

  What should we, what should we call?

• 20:05Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Sabrina.

• 20:07Corinne Vien?

  Let's call you Ginger.

• 20:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ooh, that's sexy.

• 20:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, singing Spice Girls. Yeah, this is from Ginger. "I'm a Virgo and I've been binging your podcast since I heard you on Morbid. I've never told anyone this story because I thought that I was crazy. So I would like to thank you ladies for giving your listeners a platform to speak so openly and freely without judgment or regret. If it were not for your ghost smut call to action, I wouldn't know that I'm not totally crazy and that ghosts be horny."

• 20:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, they do.

• 20:37Corinne Vien?

  "2021 was a fuck of a year for me, just a total and constant shitstorm of what I thought were fuck yous from the universe. By November, I was wild and out, just trying to deal with life. And I was also in the process of figuring out and accepting the spiritual and paranormal world. But you'll hear about those stories another time. Anyway, I was visiting my hometown and visiting some friends that I've known since forever. The house I was staying in for the next few days just seemed off to me from the get-go. I was too much of a noob in the spiritual world to understand what I was feeling. But what I was feeling was a fucking haunting. This house wasn't fancy. It wasn't a piece of shit, just a regular house. And I'm in a regular neighborhood. My second day there, I decide I should take a shower. Everything is normal.

• 21:21Corinne Vien?

  There's only one other person at the house with me and he's outside grilling and playing with the cats. Here's where it gets weird. I suddenly get this sensation in my nethers. It feels like, you know, business time and it keeps going. And I can feel this as my torso is lowered forward for better positioning. But it felt really good and it felt like right when you wake up from a wet dream, except I was wide awake in the shower and I liked it and it had been entirely too long since I'd had any action. So I just let it continue. I was like, hey, let's see how this plays out, you know?

• 21:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love that, like the spirit repositioned you.

• 22:00Corinne Vien?

  Right?

• 22:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know how to pleasure you.

• 22:03Corinne Vien?

  Ginger writes, "An orgasm without the work or commitment? Yes, please." But then I heard something, a voice say, I wasn't able to do this while I was alive. And suddenly it hits me. It's the voice of a friend of mine that I had discovered just one month prior, deceased in his home after several days of him not answering anyone's calls.

• 22:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 22:25Corinne Vien?

  So not exactly the sexy talk that I'm used to. I was hard up for some action and whom I did deny a spirit one last boning. I'm just glad I'm not the only one out here enjoying that ghost D. Too bad it only happened that one time. Thanks for your time and your wonderful podcast. Love, Ginger.

• 22:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Ginger. Okay. Well, I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend. That's really, really heartbreaking, especially the discovery of him in that way.

• 22:50Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 22:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But.

• 22:51Corinne Vien?

  This isn't some random ghost hookup. Like, you're hooking up with your friend.

• 22:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He clearly wanted to do it in life.

• 22:57Corinne Vien?

  Are things complicated between you two?

• 22:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Relationship status.

• 23:00Corinne Vien?

  Now I need backstory on your relationship. Was there like an ongoing flirtation for a long time?

• 23:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Did you ever have interest? Did he ever express interest?

• 23:11Corinne Vien?

  Did you like make out drunk at a party one time and then you guys were like, we don't know that we can't do this. We're friends. But then there was always that like lingering, like what if?

• 23:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wonder if you invite him into your bed. I don't know. Just, uh, give a little call one night when you're thirsty and be like, if you're listening, if you're around, uh.

• 23:32Corinne Vien?

  It sounds like he's a good hookup.

• 23:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah. No strings attached.

• 23:35Corinne Vien?

  Get your action in. Like, why not?

• 23:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Why not?

• 23:38Corinne Vien?

  Summon the D.

• 23:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Summon the D. Yes.

• 23:43Corinne Vien?

  Oh, that was a good one.

• 23:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I love.

• 23:46Corinne Vien?

  Sexy ghost stories.

• 23:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  God.

• 23:49Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 23:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, nothing is better.

• 23:51Corinne Vien?

  Mm hmm.

• 23:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Literally, nothing in the world is better than a ghost getting you off. I mean, I'm sure there are better things, but like, I can't think of anything right now.

• 24:00Corinne Vien?

  It's just so interesting. And I feel like it's so interesting too, because there's so many stories where it's just kind of like this random, like, here we go.

• 24:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 24:09Corinne Vien?

  But then there's other ones that develop into actual relationships. And people have like, threesomes and romances and like coupled relationships with ghosts.

• 24:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I support it.

• 24:19Corinne Vien?

  And you're open to it.

• 24:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  True.

• 24:20Corinne Vien?

  Aliens and ghosts.

• 24:22Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Welcome into my bedroom.

• 24:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Alrighty.

• 24:25Corinne Vien?

  Let's see. This is fun. I like doing this.

• 24:28Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know. It's a surprise.

• 24:30Corinne Vien?

  I like how you're like hiding it from me.

• 24:34Corinne Vien?

  What is it?

• 24:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Possession.

• 24:37Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god. Of course you get that one. Well, again, we've unfortunately got a lot of emails about this.

• 24:43Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But at least that means they survived to tell the tale.

• 24:46Corinne Vien?

  Mm-hmm.

• 24:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I found one.

• 24:49Corinne Vien?

  Okay.

• 24:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And this is from our listener Peyton. My friend got possessed and crazy Ouija board experiences, which is the double fucking whammy.

• 24:58Corinne Vien?

  Two for one.

• 24:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Mm-hmm. Hello, Sabrina and Corinne. I love your podcast. I've been waiting to write you guys for so long and I'm glad to finally do it. I relate to you guys so much, like being from the East Coast, loving all things creepy, ghosts, Halloween and spooky stuff. I've had so many creepy and crazy encounters my whole life, including growing up in a haunted house in Massachusetts, seeing a shadow man that I call Slender Man since I was three years old.

• 25:20Corinne Vien?

  Okay, well.

• 25:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Seeing and hearing ghosts and many more. Oh, and don't get me started on my mom. My mom is the most haunted person I know. She has had many insane paranormal encounters and has died and come back to life. And I'm truly convinced she came back from the other side, whatever or wherever that is.

• 25:35Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god. We need to know everything.

• 25:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  With someone or something attached to her.

• 25:38Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god. Oh, this is so scary. Cause I just think of the movie Insidious and that like black veiled woman going for the little boy.

• 25:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We need to hear that story.

• 25:47Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mom is extremely intuitive and her and my dad both have ghosty experiences almost every day.

• 25:53Corinne Vien?

  What the hell?

• 25:54Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What's fun about this is like, cause usually we pre-read the emails before we do encounters.

• 26:00Corinne Vien?

  Which is sometimes we pre-read them like a month before and then we forget. But like this, we're surprised, surprised.

• 26:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We're surprised, surprised. I know you guys just love the Ouija board. So I wanted to tell you some of my creepy experiences with the Ouija board. I've always been interested in the paranormal and I love spooky things, so the Ouija board has always intrigued me. When I was 16, my friend Jo and I decided to buy a Ouija board and try it together for the first time. We waited until late at night when it was super dark and spooky. She lived in an old farmhouse in the middle of the woods and so we tried it in her room upstairs in the complete darkness with only small candles lit.

• 26:37Corinne Vien?

  Perfect setting to make it really spooky.

• 26:39Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So also a gust of wind.

• 26:41Corinne Vien?

  I know.

• 26:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like when whipping around us outside and I feel like if only it was dark out.

• 26:46Corinne Vien?

  Then it would be very scary.

• 26:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So scared.

• 26:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 26:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  We'd be shitting ourselves. She also bought some Hershey kisses and spread them out around the board because she did some research and read that ghosts like chocolate. Like a little offering.

• 27:00Corinne Vien?

  Oh my gosh, we were that, I'm sorry, I don't mean to go off on a tangent, but it just reminds me of one of the first live shows we ever did. I think it was in Portland, Maine. And it was on Cinco de Mayo. And I covered a little boy who haunts his gravestone.

• 27:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:13Corinne Vien?

  And he says, "Dame lo un chocolatito."

• 27:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, he wants the chocolate.

• 27:17Corinne Vien?

  On the EVPs, he's always like, "Give me some chocolate."

• 27:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  He just wants some chocolate. So first, we asked some basic questions like, "What's your name? How old are you?" And I can't remember the name or age, but it was an old man talking to us. I remember asking if he had any friends and the planchette moved to no. Then I asked, "Do you want friends?"

• 27:36Corinne Vien?

  Well, that's an invitation.

• 27:38Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The planchette started to move to yes, but then it stopped. Stopped on the blank space between yes and no, which I thought was really strange. It's how I feel. Do I want friends? Sometimes, but other times, no. Jo and I were sitting directly across from each other while using the board and each had one hand on the planchette. And the planchette was pointing at her when it stopped. I was staring down at the planchette and I asked, "Does that mean no?" The planchette still didn't move. Neither did Jo. She didn't say anything or respond to my question. I was still looking down at the planchette and I asked again, "Does that mean no?" Still nothing. At that point, I looked up at Jo. And she was looking at me with a really sinister look on her face.

• 28:21Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I will never forget that look, even 10 years later. Her head was tilted down, eyes staring up at me. It looked like it wasn't even her anymore. The dim light of the candle cast a shadow on her face and her bright, blue eyes now looked dark.

• 28:36Corinne Vien?

  Oh, my god.

• 28:37Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She looked pure evil, like she was going to attack me at any second. I thought maybe she had zoned out or something, so I look at her and I ask, "Hey, Jo, do you think that means no?" Her evil stare continued, which then I started to freak out because I had never seen her act like this. I took my hand off the planchette and shook her shoulder really hard and yelled, "Jo!" Because I started to think she was messing with me or something. After I shook her, she completely snapped out of it. Her face went back to its usual self and she looked at me concerned because she saw a horrified look on my face and said, what? And I said, why were you looking at me like that? She yelled back, like what? This girl had no idea what I was talking about. I told her that I asked the same question three times and she just sat there staring at me all creepy. And she was like, I didn't even hear you ask anything.

• 29:19Corinne Vien?

  Oh my God, I like literally forgot we pulled possession as the topic. This is, I'm on the edge of my seat.

• 29:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I literally think she was possessed. I believe that whoever we were talking to through the Ouija board was upset that they didn't have friends and wanted to possess Joe so that they would have a friend.

• 29:34Corinne Vien?

  I wonder if in that question, there was just so much openness between the two of them being like, well, do you want friends? That they were super receptive and whatever it was realized in that moment that it could inhabit.

• 29:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Enter home.

• 29:46Corinne Vien?

  Entrez.

• 29:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So creepy. We stopped playing after that and she acted completely normal for the rest of the night. However, that first Ouija board experience did not stop me. I played the Ouija board several times after that. The next encounter still haunts me to this day. More than the first one, because that's pretty fucking terrifying.

• 30:04Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, can you imagine if we were playing an Ouija board and that happened to one of us just fully possessed?

• 30:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Horrifying.

• 30:10Corinne Vien?

  I would never play again. We'd probably have to quit the podcast. I would become ultra religious.

• 30:17Corinne Vien?

  I'd only wear white shawls and I'd eat the sun.

• 30:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Wasn't that a thing that a cult did?

• 30:22Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, exactly. I would restart that cult.

• 30:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 30:25Corinne Vien?

  Super dangerous.

• 30:26Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And then that's the cult that they transported her body like dead across state lines. Yeah.

• 30:30Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 30:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sad. I took the Ouija board to my house and I played it with my parents and my sister a few times. We would just play for fun and see what it would tell us. In the beginning of summer of 2014, my mom, dad, sister and I decided to play the Ouija board, a family affair. Love it. We were in our living room and my parents decided to sit on the couch and watch and let my sister and I play. It was saying random stuff at first, but then out of nowhere, the implanchet spelled out J A N E T. Janet. So here's where this gets tricky. My mom's name is Janet, but with two N's. Her mom, my grandma's name is Janet with one N. So when the Ouija board spelled out Janet. With one N, we were like, which Janet is it talking about? So we said, what is it about Janet?

• 31:15Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The planchette went to the letter D, then I, then E, die. Holy shit. My heart sank. My mom and grandma were both in good health and both young, so this was out of the blue. We stupidly asked, when? And it went to the numbers two, zero, one, four, 2014, the year we are playing. That was this year. My parents started to freak out a little bit and were like, okay, maybe you should stop playing. And before my sister and I could tell the board goodbye, it started to once again spell out Janet. We again, had no idea which Janet the board was talking about, and I started to get mad. Before we could ask anything else, the planchette went to H, E, A, R, T, heart. What did that even mean?

• 31:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I got mad and was so over it because I didn't want anything bad to happen to my mom or my grandma. So I said goodbye, but the board had other plans and it spelled out warning. My sister and I looked up terrified at each other after it spelled out warning and again spelled out warning once more. Spelling it so fast, over and over and over.

• 32:13Corinne Vien?

  How can you even deny this? At this point, I'd be like, one of them is going to have a heart attack.

• 32:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I had only heard of planchets moving that fast in other people's stories or in movies. So for it to happen to me personally was insane. It seemed like it was frantically trying to tell us something. We finally got the planchette to go to goodbye and my parents told us we are never allowed to play that again in the house. But here is where things get crazy. In September 2014, just a couple of months after playing the Ouija board. My mom was rushed to the hospital with congestive heart failure. She had never had a heart problem before, so this was an out of the blue emergency. She is alive and well, but that was such a scary experience for me and my family. The day my mom got out of the hospital, she got news that our grandma had terminal lung cancer.

• 32:58Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My grandma lived in Massachusetts and we lived in Indiana at this point, so it was extremely hard to hear considering how far away we were from her. We visited in November that year, knowing it would be the last time we saw her. She was very frail and weak and ill and could barely talk or move. She was only 66 and died the next month, December 2014, just like the Ouija board said. Now we know which Janet slash Janet. It meant, do you? Because I feel like it meant both.

• 33:22Corinne Vien?

  Yep, especially because it spelled out heart.

• 33:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, this is the Ouija board story that I tell people who tell me they don't believe in using the Ouija board. Because how could my sister and I possibly make that up? Thank you for reading my story. I hope you thought it was as crazy as I did. See you on the other side, Peyton, she/her.

• 33:38Corinne Vien?

  I mean, this is some strong contact that Peyton is making. Whether it be via possession or via mourning through a Ouija board.

• 33:48Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do feel like it wasn't a negative spirit with the second story, warning. Like, the fact that it was spelling out warning over and over before they could close out, it was like,

• 33:56Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 33:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's a problem with Janet's heart, and there was.

• 33:59Corinne Vien?

  There was. How terrifying. And also, 2014, I realized that they were in that year, but part of me would be like, am I getting this right? Is it 2014, the year, or is it 2014, like, military time?

• 34:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, like, is it gonna happen today?

• 34:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, at like, at 8:14, is one of the Janettes going to experience something?

• 34:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I never would have told you that.

• 34:18Corinne Vien?

  Really? I think it's because our oven is kept on that time, so I'm used to.

• 34:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  What time is it?

• 34:25Corinne Vien?

  Hold 2014.

• 34:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But, wow. And I'm really sorry for your loss, Peyton, that's heartbreaking. But I am glad that you were able to see her before she passed.

• 34:35Corinne Vien?

  Gosh.

• 34:35Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So sad. I think if anything, it just teaches you to hold your loved ones close and cherish them.

• 34:42Corinne Vien?

  And Peyton, not to encourage you even more with like this sort of contact, but I feel like you're, there's something about you that makes it easy for, for things and people energies to come through, so.

• 34:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And hey, at least you weren't the one who was possessed.

• 34:57Corinne Vien?

  True.

• 34:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So.

• 34:58Corinne Vien?

  You just had to watch it happen.

• 35:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Like, could you imagine if you and I were in the middle of a conversation and all of a sudden you were?

• 35:05Corinne Vien?

  Much rather, I need to be the one being possessed. I can't do, I can't do this.

• 35:10Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh, I, I would much rather be the one possessed too.

• 35:12Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, I would vomit, probably. Also, if you were possessed, I think it would take me a beat to realize, because I'd be like, are you doing a bit?

• 35:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes, because that is something that I would do.

• 35:21Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, but I think if I were possessed, you'd know right away.

• 35:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, I think your eyes would change. I think, look at, look at the eyes.

• 35:28Corinne Vien?

  So scary. Okay, what do we have? Something nice? Something nice?

• 35:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

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• 35:53Corinne Vien?

  It's so great. It's such a good cheat sheet. And then even if you don't want to do the full routine, I love their brilliant eye brightener. Because I just slap that right on. Like I wore one of the shades of that to a little seance we did the other day.

• 36:06Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Spooky. Also their Liquid Lash Extension Mascara, I'm wearing it right now. It's so good. And all their products are 100% vegan, cruelty free, and made with clean, skin-loving ingredients that work with your skin, not against it. Every time I use it and I'm around my mom, she's like, ooh, will you do my makeup for me?

• 36:22Corinne Vien?

  Someone asked us the other day if we had our makeup professionally done when we were wearing a bunch of Thrive. And we're like, wow, no, but thanks.

• 36:27Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Toss, toss.

• 36:28Corinne Vien?

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• 37:13Corinne Vien?

  Oh no, we have incubus and succubus.

• 37:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You're going for the sex, I guess.

• 37:17Corinne Vien?

  I guess so.

• 37:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  You know what I like about this is I feel like we're letting the universe guide us.

• 37:23Corinne Vien?

  And they want dirty little demons?

• 37:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  They know how much I want sex.

• 37:27Corinne Vien?

  Oh, this is for you then.

• 37:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Even though incubus and succubus are- Our demonic sex spirits.

• 37:32Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, and oftentimes people have really horrible experiences with them. So.

• 37:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So potentially content warning.

• 37:37Corinne Vien?

  Hopefully that's not the the case for an email that I just found. It's called, was my roommate an incubus?

• 37:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Not what I was expecting.

• 37:45Corinne Vien?

  Right?

• 37:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 37:47Corinne Vien?

  Is there a roommate of flesh and blood in incubus? Or did they move into a haunted place?

• 37:52Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I was imagining the roommate like actual projecting at night.

• 37:55Corinne Vien?

  Oh, I was thinking of the roommate being possessed. We'll find out. Hi, goal friends. I discovered your amazing podcast last year in the summer and I've been binging your show ever since. I started at the beginning. I'm currently on encounters ninety seven. And the first story was from Victoria, British Columbia, which is where I live. Anyway, enough for my gushing. Let me get to my story. Content warning, ghostly essay.

• 38:14Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay.

• 38:14Corinne Vien?

  So they gave it perfect. Throughout my life, I've always believed all things spiritual. I never had any real encounters, just the feeling of someone watching me or goosebumps for no reason, things like that. So when I was in my early twenties, I moved out of my house and in my first ever place by myself. I moved into the small basement suite and the first night it just felt super weird. I felt like I wasn't alone, so I just assumed that maybe it was the nerves for my first time living alone and I was in a new space. Then things started happening. My cat would sit and stare in the corners of my ceiling for hours.

• 38:46Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh.

• 38:47Corinne Vien?

  A lot of people felt a presence at my place and I just never felt alone. I lived there for five years.

• 38:53Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  And for five years, never felt alone.

• 38:55Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 38:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Geez.

• 38:56Corinne Vien?

  I have never had sleep paralysis before, but when I lived there, I had it a lot. This is just even more proof that sleep paralysis is not just some weird brain thing. The first time. It is. The first time I woke up, I was unable to move. I've never had it before, so I didn't really know what was happening. And then I heard footsteps coming from my hallway, walking back and forth. Getting louder and louder. And as soon as I was able to move, I jumped up, I turned on all the lights and I couldn't see anyone. So I checked my doors and they were all locked. So I looked it up the next day and I figured out what it was I was experiencing. I kept feeling super uncomfortable sleeping in my bedroom. So most nights I'd sleep on my couch. I only slept in my bed when a gentleman caller lol, safety in numbers, was visiting.

• 39:40Corinne Vien?

  And whenever I had a guy sleeping over, I'd always wake in the middle of the night to either scratching coming from the walls or knocking on the walls, always in threes.

• 39:50Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  So it was like a, whatever this entity is, didn't like that she had another man over?

• 39:55Corinne Vien?

  Yes, no company allowed. Whenever I woke up my slumber party buddy, it would always stop. It would always pick up again as soon as they would fall asleep. I was more mad that no one else could hear it in time. I really wanted someone else to hear it and validate me and make sure that this wasn't all in my head. I kept getting sleep paralysis and it would just always escalate. Like a reoccurring dream with each dream getting further and further. It started with the steps. Then long fingers wrapping around my door as they entered my room. And then standing over me, a large dark figure with glowing red eyes. And then it got worse.

• 40:30Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Oh no.

• 40:31Corinne Vien?

  It was over top of me kissing my neck. And then the next one was touching me inappropriately, but I don't want to go into details. That was the last one. Thank God and I am okay. Don't worry. It did take me a few days, but finally I just shook it all off and I knew that this was just a dream. But after listening to your podcast, it's making me think that maybe this wasn't just a dream. Maybe this was an incubus. That would explain why it would act up when I had a boy over and the advances. When I moved out with my boyfriend, now my husband, it was a huge blessing and a huge weight off of my shoulders. I immediately felt that peace in our new space. Nothing followed me. There was no knocking, no scratching, no sleep paralysis. I've only had it once since, but I didn't see or hear anything. I just couldn't move.

• 41:16Corinne Vien?

  Also, the upstairs area where I lived, I would also experience a ton of ghostly interactions. Thank you so much for the amazing content. Whispers, see you on the other side. Also, my pronouns are she/her and this is from Evan.

• 41:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Well, Evan, I'm sorry because that is very traumatizing. And I'm also sorry that our podcast made you realize it was real because maybe it would have been better to just think it was a dream.

• 41:39Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, it's just a terrifying nightmare.

• 41:41Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I'm glad it didn't follow you and that in those five years of living there, it didn't make any like physical attempt until like a later point. Wasn't consistent and all the time. Doesn't make it better necessarily, but like, I'm glad it wasn't tormenting you forever.

• 41:57Corinne Vien?

  Right, like there was, there was an end to it.

• 41:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 41:59Corinne Vien?

  But my god, like escalating and being kinda like creeping further and further and closer and closer. Its hands like wrapping around the door.

• 42:09Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  The long nails, glowing red eyes.

• 42:11Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 42:12Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Icky. Okay, should we do one more?

• 42:15Corinne Vien?

  Yes, hopefully we pick something scary. That's what I was gonna say, but we'll see.

• 42:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Angry old ghost lady. Did you put this as a topic? Cause that's so specific.

• 42:26Corinne Vien?

  Yes, because when I was just cruising through our inbox the other day, trying to like find some stories for upcoming encounters. The amount of subject lines that said angry old ghost lady, I was like, what the heck is happening? So yeah, I did put that in, cause I knew that we at least had 10.

• 42:42Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Okay, this is from our listener Christina. And I feel like angry old, old ghost lady is, is not terrifying and also not the most pleasant. So we got a good.

• 42:53Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah, it's maybe an annoyance.

• 42:55Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, alright. This is called Victorian House Old Lady Ghost. Hello ladies. First of all, I love your podcast so much and if you read this, I will shit my pants.

• 43:04Corinne Vien?

  I am.

• 43:04Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Shit away. I love when people shit their pants, cause it means I'm not alone. Today, I'm going to be telling you the story of the time that I was scolded by the ghost of an angry old lady. To not spoil any of the details, I'm just gonna get right into it. I went to college at a small university in St. Paul, Minnesota. I graduated and got my degree in 2020, woo woo. But this private university is extremely small, old, and most of the buildings on campus are definitely haunted. My parents lived about five hours away from me, so they would visit every few months. And my university had this guest house that was right on campus, so if your family was visiting, they could rent a room in the house for much cheaper than a hotel. That's really cool.

• 43:43Corinne Vien?

  That is very cool.

• 43:44Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  One of the times that my mom came to visit, she decided to stay in this guest house. The house itself was built in the late 1800s, maybe 1880. The architecture, wallpaper, decor, and even the toilet, which had a pull chain to flush, all reflected how old the house was.

• 43:58Corinne Vien?

  I love a pull chain.

• 44:00Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Me too.

• 44:00Corinne Vien?

  Toilet.

• 44:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I do feel like it reminds me of when we went to S K Pierce. And that bathroom really gave me the heebie jeebies because.

• 44:07Corinne Vien?

  It was scary.

• 44:08Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It just, and then I feel like the pull chain toilet just flushes a lot louder and longer.

• 44:14Corinne Vien?

  It just feels, yeah, I mean, the S K Pierce one was scary, but.

• 44:17Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 44:17Corinne Vien?

  It feels European to me.

• 44:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yes. My mom arrived in St. Paul and we immediately went to dinner, saw a play, did a couple of fun things around town. And by the time she was ready to start getting settled into the guest house, it was around maybe eight P M. She got her room key from the front desk of my university's main center building. So there was no one physically in the guest house to watch over things while you're there. But the front desk at the main center building told her she would be the only person staying in the guest house that night. So we would have the whole place to ourselves. When we walked up to the guest house, all of the lights were off and it was completely dark inside. We unlocked the front door and immediately got to work helping my mom settle in. My best friend was with us at the time, and since this house is so old and mysterious, we started to snoop around.

• 45:02Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  My mom was in her room, room number four. She was unpacking her bag. My friend and I were opening every door, looking inside closets, exploring the basement, scratching our adventurous itch. Unfortunately, our adventurous itch sometimes got us into trouble and into scary situations, and this time was no different. We had pretty much explored every inch of this house and didn't really find anything worth noting. We decided to go up to the second floor where there were four different bedrooms and started snooping up there. Each bedroom should be locked since it's a hotel bed and breakfast style place. My friend and I tried to open room number one. It was locked. My mom was in room number four and her door was wide open. I tried to open room number three. It was locked. My friend and I both met in the middle and there was only one door left to try to open, room number two.

• 45:47Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I reached for the golden knob door of number two, and instead of feeling the resistance of a locked door, the knob turned. And the door opened. I said out loud to my friend and my mom, oh, this one's unlocked. And before anyone could respond, something within that pitch black room responded to me. It is a voice I will never forget. An old lady in the pitch black room seethed at me and very slowly and drawn out said, I know.

• 46:19Corinne Vien?

  My god.

• 46:20Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wish I could send you an audio clip of exactly how it sounded. It was a very interesting dialect. Like when she said "I," it was slowly becoming higher pitched. And then when she said "no," it was the exact opposite, getting lower pitched.

• 46:32Corinne Vien?

  "I!"

• 46:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  "No."

• 46:36Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Did I do it justice? Before my mind registered what had happened to me, my body reacted, immediately screamed, slammed the door, and we all ran and locked ourselves inside my mom's room.

• 46:44Corinne Vien?

  Oh my god.

• 46:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It didn't make sense. No one was staying there that night except for us. Then the room was pitch black, not even the soft glow of a phone screen lighting up someone's face. My mom stayed there the rest of the night and said she never heard or saw anyone else. No one using the bathroom, no one leaving early in the morning, etc. As soon as this encounter happened, I knew right away it was a ghost. It was like my body could feel it, and it was a fact. I still get chills telling the story, and I hope that cranky old lady is doing well and hopefully finding some peace on the other side. I really don't have many other theories about who she is, but maybe the original owner of the house, or who knows? Whoever she was, it was clear she was not happy that I was snooping around the house. Remember to always be respectful when exploring places, especially old places that probably have ghosts or entities still residing there.

• 47:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Happy hauntings, Christina.

• 47:31Corinne Vien?

  It's kind of confusing because the other rooms were locked, and so I feel like if the old lady really didn't want anyone coming into that room, she could have locked it herself or gone to one of the locked rooms. So it's like this weird thing where like she was, she was like there to be seen, but then was mad at being seen.

• 47:49Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Or maybe she really thought that the house was gonna be empty, because they didn't get there until so late, that maybe she thought she had the whole place to herself, and then was surprised, like she didn't feel like she had to lock the door. And then when Christina opened the door and shouted to her friend and mom, saying like, "Ooh, this one's open." The woman's like, "Yeah, I know, because I'm in here."

• 48:09Corinne Vien?

  I appreciate the attitude. Set your boundaries, even when you're a ghost.

• 48:13Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, it's her house, it's her room. No one should be snooping.

• 48:17Corinne Vien?

  No, but how cool that you can stay in a place like that with that college.

• 48:19Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, I love that.

• 48:20Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, that's super cool. And such an old historic one, too.

• 48:24Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I wish every hotel a better breakfast was haunted.

• 48:28Corinne Vien?

  I bet they probably are.

• 48:29Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  No, but I mean, like where you could actually experience something.

• 48:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, yeah, more than just like the rogue.

• 48:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I think I guess I wish I was more in tune.

• 48:38Corinne Vien?

  That you just saw spirits every day.

• 48:40Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Which is a, I have to be careful, like, you know, be careful what you wish for.

• 48:44Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 48:45Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But I would like to be a little bit more in tune. I'm working on it.

• 48:48Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, like a ghost whisperer.

• 48:51Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  She has some scary experiences.

• 48:52Corinne Vien?

  Medium, oh, well, yeah. I feel like medium, like the Patricia Arquette, like.

• 48:57Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 48:57Corinne Vien?

  Her experiences, her experiences, as if she's truly.

• 49:01Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  It's based on a real woman who actually has a podcast, Allison.

• 49:06Corinne Vien?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 49:07Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I forget what her last name is, but she has like many books, she has a podcast, she has a huge following on TikTok or maybe on Instagram. I can't remember. I followed her on one of our things.

• 49:16Corinne Vien?

  Well, her experiences are way scarier.

• 49:18Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  I know, I know.

• 49:19Corinne Vien?

  It's not just about like befriending the local ghost passing through and being like, let me help you move on.

• 49:25Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah, no, that's a good theme, too. We should do that as a full theme, like mediumship contact.

• 49:31Corinne Vien?

  Yeah.

• 49:31Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:32Corinne Vien?

  Helping people move.

• 49:33Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:33Corinne Vien?

  Forward or, yeah.

• 49:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  There's so many topics, so many themes. If you have one that you would like us to cover, please email us and let us know what it is. And if you have ghost stories that you would like to share with us, we are the collectors of your ghost tales. So please email them to us at [email protected].

• 49:49Corinne Vien?

  You can watch us on YouTube, you can listen wherever, well, I guess if you're already listening, you you figured it out. My brain isn't working.

• 49:56Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  But tell your friends.

• 49:57Corinne Vien?

  Follow us on social media. That's where I was trying to go.

• 49:59Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Yeah.

• 49:59Corinne Vien?

  We also have Patreon and there's only one tier. It's $5 a month or less if you join annually. We have a ton of bonus content, different offerings there. And we do campfire stories, which is a live version of encounters where you come up onto this virtual stage and tell us your encounter and share with the class.

• 50:16Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Unleash your ghost stories. But yeah, we love you all. Thank you for joining us and thank you to our editor, Jamie, who edits and produces our podcast. And who edited out all of the searching for ghost stories so you didn't have to watch us stare at our.

• 50:29Corinne Vien?

  Yeah, this was smooth for you, right?

• 50:32Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  Right? We love you.

• 50:33Corinne Vien?

  And we will.

• 50:34Sabrina Deana-Roga?

  See you on the other side.

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