Halloween Seance in Salem With Morbid Podcast

Halloween is the night when the veil between the living and the dead is at its thinnest. It is the time when spirits may walk among us and communication with the other side is believed to be easier than ever. What better way to celebrate the spookiest night of the year than by gathering in Salem, Massachusetts, to attempt to communicate with the dead? For this very special Halloween bonus episode, we joined forces with our friends Ash Kell and Alaina Urquhart of Morbid Podcast, alongside Kim Hill (co-owner of Nocturne), Natasha Rusilko, and Codie Crowley, for an intimate séance inside of Nocturne, an enchanting shop in downtown Salem. We were guided by the incredibly gifted psychic medium Chris O'Donnell of Pentagram in Salem, we opened ourselves up to the other side… and let's just say... we made contact. Salem is a city steeped in history, mystery, and tragedy. Best known for the infamous witch trials of 1692, when fear and superstition led to the persecution and execution of innocent people, Salem has since become a place synonymous with witchcraft, the supernatural, and the unexplained. From spirits lingering within the walls of Nocturne to deeply personal connections with loved ones beyond the veil, the evening was filled with unexpected messages, emotional moments, and reminders that perhaps the people we lose are never really that far away. Happy Halloween to all thee living and the dead. More info about our guests & where to find them:Morbid PodcastNocturne & Kim HillChris O'DonnellCodie Crowley (check out her incredible books -- Body Count and Here Lies a Vengeful Bitch)Natasha Rusilko Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] Filmed & produced by Jack Skelley & Boathouse Productions. Edited by your ghoul, Sabrina. New Episodes are released every Thursday and Sunday at 12am PST/3am EST (the witching hour, of course). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:35Speaker 00

  We're here in Salem.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  It's October. It's very spooky. So what did we decide to do? We are at our friend's shop over in Nocturne, and we're doing a seance.

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  And we brought some friends.

• 1:52Speaker 00

  Meet you.

• 1:55Speaker 00

  Hello, and happy Halloween. This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

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  Two girls, one ghost.

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  Humans have long been curious about what awaits us after death. Where do we go when we die? Can we communicate with those that we've lost? And what waits for us on the other side?

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  Well, if you're here, you've probably asked yourself that question too, or all of those questions.

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  And tonight, we are going to move from our world, across the realm, into the world of the spirits and commune with the dead.

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  In a seance.

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  And we're inviting you to join us. We've gathered some of our friends, a coven of witches, if you will, and we have found ourselves in arguably one of the most haunted and infamous places in America.

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  Can't you feel it?

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  Salem, Massachusetts, where in 1692, more than 200 people were accused of being witches, where 19 people were hanged, one was pressed to death, and at least five others died in jail. So tonight, we wonder, are any of their spirits still here, lingering with us? Or perhaps are we going to encounter anyone near and dear to our own hearts? So before we begin, we want to set the stage and introduce who is here with us. We will be led through the seance by our friend, an incredible witch, Chris.

• 3:15Speaker 03

  Hello, you guys. I'm Chris from Pentagram in Salem. I'm a medium, but I think all humans are mediums, so I like to stress that spirit is there, consciousness is there. I like to play in psychickness.

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  And we've gathered at Nocturne, a shop in Salem.

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  One of our favorite shops.

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  And that brings us to our guests.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  There will be the two of us, of course, Sabrina, Corinne, Two Girls, One Ghost, and then...

• 3:40Speaker 00

  Or many ghosts tonight.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  More like 20 ghosts.

• 3:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  And then, of course, we have the shop owner of Nocturne, Kim.

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  Hi, I'm Kimberly Hill. I'm one of the owners of Nocturne. As a person who has always claimed to be a skeptic, Salem has changed my mind, and I think it's very potentially haunted in here.

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  And we can't do anything spooky without our brothers.

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  I'm Alena Erkhardt. I'm with Morbid Podcast, and I'm one of the brothers.

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  I'm Ash Kell. I'm from Morbid, and I too am one of the brothers.

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  I have never done a seance before, which is crazy.

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  I've done like light as a feather, stiff as a board, if you count that.

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  I want something spooky to happen. I want ghosts to come. I'm ready.

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  I think Alena's gonna get possessed tonight.

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  Because she wants it.

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  Because she wants to, yeah.

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  And then we're also joined by Codie Crowley, who is an incredible author, and then the witch Natasha, who's just so spooky and delightful, and both of them actually work at Nocturne as well.

• 4:34Speaker 00

  Now that you're familiar with the living, shall we meet the dead?

• 4:39Speaker 06

  That's why we're here.

• 4:39Speaker 00

  That's why we're here. Now, it is Halloween, and people say, people say, everyone knows that the veil is at its thinnest between our world and theirs. So we do recommend setting intentions and protecting yourself, but as you will see in the seance we're about to show you, contacting the other side isn't something to be feared. Respected, yes, but I don't think feared is the right word. It's not all possessions. It's not all demons like you see in horror movies. Sometimes...

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Not with this group.

• 5:08Speaker 00

  Not with this group. Sometimes it's actually kind of girly pop.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Definitely.

• 5:12Speaker 00

  Like our group...

• 5:12Speaker 01

  Good way to describe it.

• 5:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. Like our group, we gave the instruction for everyone to dress practical magic.

• 5:20Speaker 01

  Yes, but then Sabrina almost got herself killed over it.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, Ash almost killed me.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  She was ready to peel that coat out of your cold, dead hands.

• 5:28Speaker 00

  I was looking at you in the other room, and I said, "I think I'll kill her and take her jacket."

• 5:32Speaker 01

  And then I'll haunt you during the seance. I'll possess you.

• 5:35Speaker 00

  As long as I can keep the jacket, that's fine. But I'm alive. See, seances can be fun, and we're excited to show you the seance that we did at Nocturne. If you do get scared or spooked, we have some advice from our psychic medium, Chris.

• 5:50Speaker 03

  Because spirit will have to be our friends tonight. If we get spooked, they're gonna have to wait, so we'll just have to tell them to slow down.

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  We hope you enjoy.

• 6:21Speaker 03

  Hello, are we excited? I'm so excited. So we're doing the seance, and then I do mediumship. So I do the mediumship normally, but everyone's a medium. Everybody's a psychic, so I'll be open for phenomena. It's the study of consciousness, study of spirit. We are all bodies made of spirit. So it's already inside of you. Your mind stops, and then all of ours continues. Spirit goes up. So we're just gonna dance, see where we flow. I know we're in a historical building, so I'm almost like shop ghosts I'm intrigued with. And then, seance style, I'll kind of go, if I get a visualization or feel someone, I'll describe and see who can take it. Sometimes I'll know who it's for. Sometimes they'll float for a second. I have questions for you about the building, but we'll get there when we get there. And

• 7:03Speaker 03

  then we have the spirit board. It's just a tool. I know people get spooked out by the spirit board sometimes. I also close my eyes a lot while I talk and while I read. I'll probably have my eyes closed for a lot of it. Is that cool? Yes. If we get spooked, tell me. Don't be shy. And then we'll do breath before we start. Goals. What do we want? Like, what are we, are we for phenomena? Do we want to know about shop ghosts? Do we want to know about history? Do we want our people to come? Don't tell me who, but do we have intentions? I want all of them. Seance style, we'll see if they chat, because we're not gonna just, like, we'll go where we go. As long as we're in the right place, we'll stay. But I don't like yanking at spirits, because I'm not going home with any stuff. I'm sorry for you guys. I'm not doing any of that for anybody at any point.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  Should we all set intentions?

• 7:43Speaker 03

  Yes. Like, we should breathe. We'll set intentions. And then I would say we'll set intentions on our own. I'm gonna lead us through. We'll just do a couple of deep breaths so we can all find our own centers, because it's, yeah, some real shit that we're doing. So we'll breathe, and we'll have fun, but like, we'll balance, make sure we all independently feel safe. After we do that, I'm gonna have us all visualize a circle of safety around us as well. If there's anyone that you want to hear from, you can think of them, but you have no big assignment. Spirits are usually there. We'll see where we flow. And then I'm intrigued about a shop ghost first, I think, but we'll see where we flow. I want to take these off. All right, are we ready, kids?

• 8:17Speaker 02

  Aye, aye, captain. Aye, aye, captain.

• 8:19Speaker 03

  Take a couple of deep breaths, get comfy, cozy, confident. I'm gonna do the same.

• 8:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, find your center, whatever that means.

• 8:31Speaker 03

  And then when we're ready, hands flat on the table.

• 8:38Speaker 03

  We'll eliminate any heaviness that we can.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  There's some nerves, but that's okay. That's also some excitement. Can I also ask, did someone lose a dog in the last month? Not a dog. A pet? Yeah, but it was a little bit more than a month ago. Okay.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  A gray or a brown pet? She was like grayish white. Sorry, baby. When did you lose her? July. She was in the space first. I almost thought that you had a dog. You have a dog, but she's alive, right? Mm-hmm. Okay. She was in the space before you got here, actually. Oh, my God. All right. Interesting. Dude, totally. Okay. So then, of course, your spirit is always there, but I'm gonna be real, I think that it was more the psychic space of the dog that was here. Is she also brown? I appreciate the honesty.

• 9:17Speaker 04

  She's not.

• 9:17Speaker 03

  What is she?

• 9:18Speaker 04

  She's a little white chihuahua.

• 9:20Speaker 03

  No, I don't know. She's perfect. Because there was sentience of dog in the space, but then I'm seeing brown. So we'll see where we flow. And then spirit's always there. I just don't like to go unless we know, unless the evidence links. I don't like to stick with it. Take a couple more deep breaths.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  All right, yeah, and I have more questions for you, miss. Is there a shop ghost that you know of?

• 9:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:41Speaker 03

  Is she a feminine?

• 9:42Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 9:43Speaker 03

  Does she have a large dress, literally?

• 9:46Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  Dude, she was in my brain before I got here, because you're intrigued about her, but you don't believe in her, but you do believe in her?

• 9:52Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 9:52Speaker 03

  She's so funny. I literally made sure not to tell anyone else about this story. I heard you say that when I was walking here. I heard you say... Two seconds, Chris is like, "Clock." Because she was like, "There's something, but I'm not gonna tell you." And I was like, "Okay," but literally when you told me that I saw a woman in a large dress, and then I was walking here and I remembered that, yeah, she's around, but she's funny, but she's bitchy, but she's funny, but she's bitchy. Like, she's both at the same time.

• 10:13Speaker 04

  I love her.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  What's your sign?

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Aries.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Because I like you very much. I would say she's like you. I'm like, I just said she's bitchy, but she's like you in a way. There's similar personalities. Does that make sense? But is she growner than you?

• 10:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Have you seen her in your mind, like, in your eye or in your mind's eye?

• 10:28Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 10:29Speaker 03

  She'd be shy, though, yeah?

• 10:30Speaker 04

  She is.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  Like, she's bitchy shy, like, she likes to be there, but on her own terms or something? Does she go in the bathroom?

• 10:38Speaker 04

  I was in the bathroom.

• 10:39Speaker 03

  Your leg down was where I was. It's funny, it is heavy in here now. Because it's also, I was planning that we're not gonna use this until we have questions. And then we're not gonna nag at spirits that don't want us bitching up their line. I'm comfortable with the evidence that she brought. She was on my mind when I got here and I wonder if she existed. It feels like she wants to be yapped about. And then it is around Samhain when the veil is thinner. These work best around this time of year. Whether it's science, whether it's spirit, we don't know. But I'm thinking we'll go closer with her with this, but soon. I don't wanna go yet, because I don't wanna nag down her line. Take one more deep breath.

• 11:14Speaker 03

  Is your cat a girl? Mm-hmm. Is your dog a boy?

• 11:18Speaker 04

  No, she's a girl.

• 11:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, then I'm not sure. And then over there, too. Miss redhead with the spirits that she said come on her. Take one more deep breath, everybody.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  Miss Elena, did you work with elders at one point?

• 11:36Speaker 06

  I did, yeah.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  They're on ya, too. Did it didn't pass with you, though, right? Just work with them?

• 11:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:41Speaker 03

  Because you feel protected by the elders that you used to work with. But that was like fifteen years ago?

• 11:46Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Thank you, guys. You're so sweet. You're so precious. I do this work a lot in the place. Everyone's psychic, it's the way we work. But I got all the people all the time, so my brain does it well quicker. But it means it's all there. It's all on ya. Don't, everyone, alright, take one more deep breath. Sorry, I'm a pity girl. I'll be like, I'm like, everyone, relax. Of course it's psychic, that's what we're here for. But it's fun, it's fun. Yeah, because you felt of elders. But your momma's alive, right?

• 12:11Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Okay, fantastic. Okay, babies, one more deep breath. Is someone having anxiety? And it's okay if you are. Okay, and then no one has low blood sugar, right? Okay. Not that I know of. Y'all all ate today? I just drank that Coke.

• 12:26Speaker 05

  I just shut down.

• 12:28Speaker 03

  Okay, alright, take one more deep breath.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  And then what do we think? Why are we drawn to spirits? What intrigues us about spirit? Is it evidence of the other side? Is it evidence of consciousness? Is it that we wanna know what happens after death? Humans have been doing this for thousands of years. What brings us to this table? What do we think? Anyone can go.

• 12:46Speaker 06

  I think evidence of the other side. And what happens when we're done here.

• 12:51Speaker 03

  Take one more deep breath.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  I think just evidence that there's something bigger than us.

• 12:57Speaker 06

  Yeah. Yeah, comfort in knowing that it's not just this.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Knowing how good I'll be at it when I'm one year old. When the time comes. Oh, I'm gonna be haunting. I've been so big. I'm like, you'll get back pain, and you're like, there she is.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  A little bit of sciatica. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Alright, I'm gonna let the pendulum sink for a while. I'm gonna see where we wanna flow. Will you tell us about that pendulum? Yeah, this is my auntie's pendulum. So it was her necklace that she wore my whole life. And then during her reading, a child smashed it and it exploded into many pieces. So this is what I have left. I used to wear it as a necklace, but now I use it as a pendulum. I brought it also, because I'm like, we in Salem, and I don't want any spirits messing with me. So I'll bring that on to you with me. But I figure that we'll start here. I do wanna lean into the shop ghost. She might make us ask her questions first, because she's the most thickest thing that's on my brain. We might go in here, feel it out. If we do this, I'm gonna have all, is there two, four, five of us on this at once? Is that cool? Alright.

• 13:58Speaker 00

  So at this point, we start communicating with a spirit that is in the shop. Which, in setting up this whole evening, I had spent some time talking to Kim and to Cody. And I got this story, or I got a little bit of background on the shop ghost. But no one else knew about it.

• 14:16Speaker 01

  Especially Chris, who does not work at Nocturne, was leading our seance. And upon walking over, was already starting to get sort of these like downloads and communication from the shop ghost. She just didn't know that it was from the shop ghost yet.

• 14:32Speaker 03

  Hey, let's go there. I feel like that's where I'm most intrigued. Is that cool?

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:35Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 14:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:36Speaker 03

  Alright, take a couple of deep breaths, get comfy, cozy. Has anyone used a spirit board before?

• 14:40Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 14:42Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's just a tool of divination. It's very similar to the pendulum. This is more the tool of divination. This is what this uses for knowledge. So let me see. Do we have the ability to put one to two fingers on it each? Can we reach?

• 14:59Speaker 00

  Come on in.

• 15:00Speaker 03

  Should we do just the three of us? What do we think? Alright, are you guys comfortable in that way?

• 15:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  Alright, you wanna ask Miss Shop Ghost if she has questions? Take a couple of deep breaths.

• 15:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, and we will ask you, Miss Girl. I don't know your name. You seem perfectly moody, but you also seem perfectly present. We would love to know any information about you. And then, honey, do you know information that we can confirm about this woman if it comes up?

• 15:27Speaker 04

  We absolutely do.

• 15:28Speaker 03

  Okay, is she in 1800s? Like, does she have an eight in her year?

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Okay. Take one more deep breath.

• 15:37Speaker 03

  She's also keeps holding a long thing when I see her. Like, does she hold something?

• 15:41Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 15:42Speaker 03

  Like a metal object?

• 15:43Speaker 00

  What's she holding?

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Like a fire poker or something, literally? Like, is it a long metal thing? Okay, okay. I just got lightheaded. Yeah, me too, and then it started moving.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  Alright, Mama, can you bring it back to base for us, please? If there's any messages, we're not trying to tease you. We really would love to know information about you.

• 16:08Speaker 03

  Tell us, is that okay?

• 16:11Speaker 03

  Take one more deep breath, you guys.

• 16:14Speaker 03

  We'll just let it flow. I'm gonna ask as they go. If anyone thinks of a question, you can ask. Don't ask about death. We don't wanna be disrespectful. We'll wait on that, because she don't wanna think about the fact that she's passed on. She just wanna think about the fact that she's present.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  She makes me think of her son. Does she have a son?

• 16:30Speaker 04

  We're not aware of a son.

• 16:31Speaker 03

  Okay. I am not touching it at all.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  I'm touching it so lightly.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  Did we all feel like we're touching it lately? Let me think, let's take a deep breath. What question would we like to ask her? Let's agree the four of us, because I think we're all intrigued that it's even moving in the first place. Can we agree upon something that we'd like to know from this person? Or, Miss Shop Lovely Girl, do you have questions that you wanna know? Don't be too specific, don't lead us. But is there something that we can answer for you?

• 17:00Speaker 03

  Mama, can you stop the pendulum really quick? Thank you. Thank you so much. What were you gonna say?

• 17:05Speaker 04

  Did you want him here?

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Did you want him here?

• 17:12Speaker 00

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• 18:59Speaker 03

  It's going towards no, it feels like. Okay, thank you so much for answering that. She's sweet. She's funny. She been through some shit, huh, Mama? Take one more deep breath, everybody.

• 19:11Speaker 03

  She's not used to being heard, but she's very strong-willed for a woman of her time. Does that make sense? I love her. Yeah, I like her a lot, dude. She's perfectly bitchy, she's just like me. I fuck with her a lot. Everyone, take one more deep breath. And Mama, can you stop the board really quick? Thank you so much. What other questions do we have for her? She feels very sad, girl. She wants to be heard.

• 19:33Speaker 05

  I have one.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Yes, baby.

• 19:34Speaker 05

  Do you want Kim and Cody to share the story?

• 19:39Speaker 05

  And the hauntings that they've experienced with you?

• 19:47Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 19:49Speaker 03

  Maybe something light? Because she took it off the board, so it's almost like, sure? If that makes sense? But I don't want us to be led, because I want us to answer questions. You know what I mean?

• 19:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. But like, if she wants her story to be told?

• 20:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. Do you have questions about your experience that you had that you would like answered before you tell us tea? People feel gaslighting themselves sometimes if we know. We know what she wants us to call. Okay. Ah, I've been answering it again. Wow, I don't wanna answer yet. Can you tell us, baby, what is she beginning with? Go one letter at a time, if you don't mind.

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Is F correct? Okay.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  What is the second letter?

• 20:34Speaker 03

  I don't think it is. I went on anything.

• 20:38Speaker 03

  Hmm, go back to the middle. Take one more deep breath.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  What can we call you? In my brain, it said Mary, but I don't think she was trying to spell that. There's no relation to a Mary, right, of this woman? Yeah, she took us back to F. Okay, and then pause one more. So the first letter of your name is F. Can you tell us the second letter?

• 21:04Speaker 03

  FE?

• 21:07Speaker 03

  FE, what is the next letter, honey?

• 21:14Speaker 03

  Is it F?

• 21:17Speaker 03

  What is the next letter?

• 21:23Speaker 03

  Fifi? Fifi?

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Obsessed.

• 21:27Speaker 03

  That's so angel, love her. It sounds... Exactly. Would you like us to call you Fifi?

• 21:39Speaker 03

  Is anyone over, Mom, or are we intrigued?

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Intrigued.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  Miss Fifi, you feel kindred to her. You feel like you're drawn to her. You feel like an advocate for her. Alright, Cody, baby, can you ask the question? Ask her, because she might answer you. What do you want us to call you?

• 22:02Speaker 03

  I feel like it's going to you. It is going to you. Come back to base, baby. So this is a spelling board. We would love if you could spell your name for us. If not, that's fine. We are just humans. We're just trying our damn best. But if you could work through us, because Cody really wants to know how to advocate for you. Take one more deep breath.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  May we know your name.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  F.

• 22:38Speaker 03

  And what is the second letter? Tell us again. Please. Dude, F.E.

• 22:47Speaker 03

  It's Fifi. It's fucking Fifi. That's why she was like, guys. And I'm so intrigued with this woman. F, I can almost confirm. Fifi sounds so silly. No offense, baby girl.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  But I'm almost like, I feel like there's something that we're close but not on. F, I'm intrigued with. F feels like the beginning of the letter. And then, don't tell us the name, but do you know her name?

• 23:09Speaker 04

  Did you know?

• 23:10Speaker 03

  Okay. Take a deep breath, everybody.

• 23:14Speaker 03

  Did she have debt? Was she annoyed about debt and money? Okay.

• 23:18Speaker 04

  I'm not sure.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  No? Okay, that's okay. What other questions do we have for her? What do we think? She's interesting.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  All right, Miss Fifi. Do you have a pet? Is there a creature here?

• 23:36Speaker 03

  In my brain, it feels like animals were around, but she felt too busy. Do we know if that's true with her profession?

• 23:42Speaker 04

  We don't know much about her, unfortunately.

• 23:44Speaker 03

  Okay. She's almost annoyed with me that I said she's busy, because she likes creatures, but she feels like she's tending to all creatures. It feels like not a pet. It also feels like the time that animals were around, so she would tend to animals as they were around. She felt annoyed by cats, but kindred to them anyway. Do you have a question in your mind? Okay, that's okay.

• 24:02Speaker 06

  Um, do you like when I leave you books?

• 24:07Speaker 03

  That's really sweet. I'm hoping she says no. I'd be like, Fifi.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  And she especially loved Cody. I was gonna say, she had a favorite. Someone showed that I switched seats with Cody at one point, so that Cody could plop her hands down on that board. Because the plan chat literally kept going to Cody. It wasn't answering questions. It was like, stop asking me things. Cody is my girl.

• 24:33Speaker 03

  Cody, do you? Come back to base. Do you wanna sit here? I feel like she's trying to...

• 24:37Speaker 00

  I'm gonna treat you.

• 24:38Speaker 03

  I think she wants to. Yeah, just come. Put your fingers on this plan chat. I'm gonna make you sit right next to it. It is strong. Do you feel that? Your fingers are like... Because everyone put their fingers off. We're like, oh. You've used a spirit book before?

• 24:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. And just moving further away from the portrait and further away from the talking board, the air felt significantly lighter.

• 24:59Speaker 06

  It's so crazy, because I feel so, like, the air feels so much lighter right here than right there.

• 25:03Speaker 00

  Even right here feels a lot lighter.

• 25:05Speaker 03

  It feels thick sometimes, but it more feels thick with information. Like, sometimes, like, when I'm reading people, if I get confused, I'll do a cleanse, because I'm like, oh, God, there's so much shit in my brain. So we cleanse it out, so we can see properly. All right, babies, let's all take a deep breath.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  And then, Miss Fifi, or whatever you would like to be called, would you like to ask a question, Cody?

• 25:29Speaker 06

  Was he mean to you?

• 25:37Speaker 03

  She feels tough to them. I'm crying. I love her. She's so messy. She said, yeah, girl, he's shorty, ball into.

• 25:45Speaker 00

  Short and tiny him.

• 25:45Speaker 03

  Why you got tiny? I wanna ask about the books, though, because Cody, it feels like she's drawn to you. She's already on the way.

• 25:58Speaker 03

  He has, like, magnets in the finger. Did you ask the question in your mind?

• 26:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  She's very quick to you, girl. What else do you wanna know? You don't have a little green pet, do you?

• 26:08Speaker 06

  A green pet?

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Like a lizard or something?

• 26:10Speaker 06

  No.

• 26:12Speaker 03

  Do you have plants?

• 26:13Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 26:13Speaker 03

  Plants. You said plants? Maybe those are your pets. Your little green pet. I love you so much. I think I was wrong. I think it was a lizard. I love you for trying, though. I'm like, no, girl, I saw a little creature. I'm wrong. All right, you guys, take one more deep breath. Cody, what other questions do you have for spirit?

• 26:30Speaker 06

  Do you like being here?

• 26:34Speaker 03

  She feels in the middle, because she feels like she don't know how to let go, but she likes being there. She's a little nitpicky. She likes to be on top of stuff. So she feels like she likes being around, but then she don't have a choice. But then she likes being around, but then she don't have a choice. She does like it here.

• 26:50Speaker 06

  Do you like book club?

• 26:55Speaker 03

  How many people are in book club? Is there too many people there sometimes? Because I'm like, dude, she likes it, but she's like, ugh. She said not a way. Bro, like, some people in it can be strange or something like that. She gets annoyed easily. Does that make sense?

• 27:07Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  She's so funny, because she doesn't like some of the people that are moody or smoothie. She kind of... I relate to her. Dude, me too. I keep being like, I like her a lot. Honestly, we could be best friends, Fifi. All right, take one more deep breath.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, not to make tea. Was there a situation at book club? Or was there someone that came to book club that caused a small issue or that got upset?

• 27:29Speaker 04

  I think you can say yes to that for sure.

• 27:32Speaker 03

  Was that a masculine person?

• 27:33Speaker 04

  It's something that we did.

• 27:35Speaker 03

  Oh, that's okay. I will be forgiven. Is it about a boy or about something short?

• 27:41Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  Oh, do we feel bad for him, though, or something? Or is he kinda smoothie? He kinda sucks? No offense. I was annoyed with him first, but he's a little complicated.

• 27:49Speaker 06

  What were you talking about?

• 27:50Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:50Speaker 06

  Okay. It was personal to her.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  It was personal.

• 27:53Speaker 03

  To this woman?

• 27:54Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Ah.

• 27:55Speaker 00

  I think you can share. I think you guys, this is the time I feel like you guys should share the story. And then we can, like, ask other questions, follow-up questions.

• 28:01Speaker 03

  She does feel annoyed with something that happened with the man. She felt disrespected. Does that make sense?

• 28:06Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:06Speaker 03

  What was tea? What happened? Me, Fifi.

• 28:13Speaker 00

  So at this point, because we have been communicating with the spirit of, as we learned, or as she told us to call her, Fifi, I was like, okay, I think it's time for Cody and Kim to share the story in the background, so that everyone can understand, because it did feel like she wanted her story to be told.

• 28:30Speaker 06

  So you sent me the states that are listening, right?

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Yes, I was drawn to her and a list.

• 28:35Speaker 06

  Instantly, yes.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  And because the audio is a little bit difficult to hear, we're gonna jump in and share it. So Kim found the portrait on Facebook Marketplace, and her and Cody were drawn to it immediately, the two of them together, which I also think is kismet and beautiful. Right. So Cody and Kim got in the car, and they drove over to Marblehead where this portrait was.

• 28:57Speaker 04

  I was drawn to her. I went to her.

• 28:59Speaker 03

  Was she upstairs or something when you found her?

• 29:04Speaker 06

  So we saw her. I loved her. I, the expression on her face, the book open in front of her, she's clearly, like, early 1800s, and I immediately felt like she was,

• 29:15Speaker 06

  like, stifled, and that she was, like, almost too smart for her own good in the time, and like, that she, like, couldn't have a voice. So we got her, we put her up here. I was talking to her every night, and I was, like, leaving her books and everything, but I wanted to know about her, but there is a pale spot on the back of the canvas where maybe there was, like, some kind of identifying information, and there's nothing. It's, like, ripped off. So we don't know her name or anything about her.

• 29:42Speaker 00

  A few days later, after she has been up in the shop, a man walks into the shop. He sees the portrait.

• 29:46Speaker 06

  He walks by us, and he's like, oh, I'm so glad you have her. I have her husband. And we're like...

• 29:52Speaker 04

  What?

• 29:53Speaker 06

  And what? And she was like, he's like, yeah, I sold her to the person who you must have gotten her from, and I have her husband, and I felt like they needed to be apart. So I, I put him in the basement.

• 30:06Speaker 06

  He got banished from the basement.

• 30:09Speaker 06

  So we were, like, immediately intrigued. So we're like, can we come see him? Because, like, we wanted, overly, do you know anything about her? Do you know anything? And he's like, no, he didn't know anything. But we were so intrigued by her that we were like, okay, so we wanna go see this painting of her husband. Um, so he has an antique store in Marblehead, so we arranged to go see it. And the night before, there was book club.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  At book club, Kim and Cody, and everyone at book club, are talking about the portrait of Fifi, as we now know her to be called, and how they knew where the portrait of her husband was.

• 30:41Speaker 06

  And there was only women at this book club. And I was like, oh, she's, she must be so happy, like, here with all these women talking about books and everything. And I was telling everyone, we're going to see her husband tomorrow. We're gonna go, we're gonna go look at her husband. So that morning, Kim comes around to pick me up, and her husband, Mike, comes in to open the store. And he texts us, the chandelier fell. The chandelier fell. It hit the desk. Everything shattered.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. Don't go see my husband.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  We went and looked at him. We absolutely will never bring him here.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  Does he have a large forehead? Or does he have, like, no hair or something? She loves talking shit about him. Because she's like, he's short, he got no hair. I'm like, you right, girl. You better tell him.

• 31:24Speaker 06

  And we also talk shit about him when we went.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Does he have like a lapel on or something on his thing?

• 31:31Speaker 04

  Oh my god.

• 31:31Speaker 03

  He, I don't like him.

• 31:34Speaker 06

  The other thing that we thought was wild is like, so there's like all of the cameras around the store and they're activated by motion. And at 10:22 PM that night, every single camera, like even in the library, every camera in the entire store, recorded the same exact thing. They were all triggered at 10:22.

• 31:50Speaker 04

  What?

• 31:50Speaker 06

  And I've never seen them do this because they record just like a couple seconds at a time. So it recorded like, it doesn't record like a long clip. So it's like, the clip begins at nighttime and there's, the chandelier is hanging and then suddenly it's daylight and the chandelier is gone. So it, right, right, all in one clip, which it's never done before.

• 32:10Speaker 03

  It's so heartbreaking to tell in an intriguing way.

• 32:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, so I was like, it's, it's, it's very, it was very compelling.

• 32:17Speaker 03

  That must've been stressful for her too.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  So at this point, when we're talking about the husband, and we're also kind of joining in with Fifi and talking shit about this man with little tiny hands.

• 32:28Speaker 00

  And receding hairline.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Receding hairline, which I think she enjoyed, but like the energies felt so heavy and so dense. And many of us started to experience headaches, like very sudden, inexplicable, like tension headaches that felt like someone was squeezing our heads.

• 32:43Speaker 03

  I hope she likes us talking shit.

• 32:45Speaker 06

  We're talking shit about this girl. Someone actually, I don't even know who this person was, but they like came by and they were like, um, that, the painting of her husband sold to someone who lives in Seattle. And I was like, oh, thanks.

• 32:57Speaker 03

  Bye. He's far away.

• 33:00Speaker 06

  But he's, he's on the other side of the country. He will never be here.

• 33:02Speaker 04

  No. Oh, I love that. She escaped.

• 33:05Speaker 03

  Wow. I do feel like they have a child. Can we ask that? Is that okay? Yeah. Because I keep thinking about her son, but then her daughter just came to mind when I thought about how annoying the father is. Um, is that okay?

• 33:16Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Um, if we don't mind, at least your fingers on the clincher. Take a couple of deep breaths. All right, Miss Baby Girl Shop goes, I'm still gonna call you Miss Fifi if that's okay. Are you still with us, girl? If the questions are interesting enough. All right, baby. She's like, baby, what do you have to know? All right, back to base. Yeah, mama, do you have children? Do you have at least one child?

• 33:45Speaker 02

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• 34:14Speaker 06

  It's me, the.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  We don't need the jingle twice.

• 34:24Speaker 06

  Stop it. This is about vacation inflation and how Priceline negotiates amazing deals on hotels, flights, and rental cars. Yeah, but I didn't mention that you can save up to 60% off hotels in the Priceline app. Fine. No one deals more deals than. Please stop. Touche. Priceline.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  Thank you, baby. Can you come back to the middle of the board? Could you possibly use the numbers? We have zero through nine. Can you tell us how many children you had possibly? That's not just us before you. Four? So that's a couple kids. So also, is there at least one boy? I keep thinking about your son. Is there a son that you have? That's okay if you don't remember. Take one more deep breath. I feel sure of a daughter.

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Is there a daughter? I think that the children's stuff stresses her out a little bit. And we won't talk about that, Miss Fifi, because we're really not here to make you riled, baby. I have been getting more of a headache as we talk about it. Yeah, let's stop then. Take a deep breath. We are so sorry. We really don't mean to pry. We're intrigued. And we do believe in your presence too. That's something that I like to validate, just for you, because it's probably so annoying that they're like, dude, I'm here all the time and we're always asking. Thank you for the evidence that you've already provided. We don't want to make your heart sad and we really are open to any phenomena. Yeah, keep getting drawn to you and the old people. It's so strange. What did you do with old people? And I love old people, I say it sweetly.

• 36:11Speaker 04

  I worked in a morgue.

• 36:12Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 36:13Speaker 04

  No, I was around a lot of old people.

• 36:16Speaker 03

  Oh dude, that makes so much sense. I was like, oh, you didn't help them die? You're like, no, but they were already dead.

• 36:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were already there.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  Oh, that's strange. Help them die. All elders?

• 36:24Speaker 04

  A lot of elderly people. Not all.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  That's so interesting.

• 36:28Speaker 04

  I did work in a nursing home when I was at high school, actually.

• 36:30Speaker 03

  I must say, it felt more like living people. So I'm like, the more, yes.

• 36:33Speaker 04

  15 years ago.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  Okay. 15 years ago, were you, uh, with dead people or with live people? That's such a funny question.

• 36:42Speaker 04

  I was with dead people.

• 36:43Speaker 03

  Okay. Yeah, no, it might've been that, then. All right, you guys, take a couple of deep breaths.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  Yep, come on in. Water's fine. All right. I feel like we want to round off with Miss Mama. Is that cool? Do we want to ask our final questions so then we can move forward? Is that okay? Do you have any more questions? She feels very drawn to you. She likes you very, very much. She very drawn to you. You agree with everything she says. It feels like, she feels like a little chandler. Do you be feeling spirits often? Yeah. Let's ask her. Are you very close to Miss Coode? Dude, she fucking wants you. It's hilarious. That was really funny. It was like, yes.

• 37:28Speaker 06

  I've never left her one of my books because I'm scared that she's not gonna like it. She wants to read one of my books.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  No, she doesn't. It's funny, she goes, maybe, because she also knows that she wouldn't like it, but whatever you would want. She's like, you're so cheap, whatever. She felt that way earlier when you were sitting here. I was gonna ask you something. Everyone take one more deep breath. Because she feels like she likes you, but you're so different than she ever would be. But she likes you so much because you're so funny, but you're so your own person. And she's surprised by her drawnness to you because you're so funny, even though you're so unique. And she can be a little bit of a bitchy girl sometimes, but in a good way. She almost likes things very proper. You're very much your own person, but she just gets a kick out of you, it feels like. And I was trying to find a way to say that, but then when you were like, does she want my book? She goes, maybe.

• 38:21Speaker 03

  I'm like, she's so funny. She's like auntie. Is there a downstairs here, in the basement or something? Is there something else in the basement? That's no fun.

• 38:31Speaker 06

  The amount of, we're gonna stay.

• 38:33Speaker 03

  Look, you guys all exchange, makes everything even spookier. I was gonna ask. The basement just annoys me.

• 38:38Speaker 06

  Something else.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  Like, yes, but like, I'm not fucking talking to it through this thing. No offense to it.

• 38:42Speaker 06

  Was the seed pod thing? Who did the seed pod thing?

• 38:45Speaker 03

  Ooh, it got so heavy in here when you said that. Take the hands off the board for a sec and take a couple of deep breaths.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  Ooh, I just got to show.

• 38:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, it's gonna be fine.

• 38:52Speaker 06

  That did scare me. I thought it was funny, so.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  It's, but that's what we need too. Because people get spooked and then people get, all right, and then we need all these levels of thing. But it's so interesting because we all felt it. That's also the phenomenon, when I'm like, keep your ears open, when we're all like, whoa, what the fuck was that? That's phenomena. Take one more deep breath. No, there's just some fucking, I don't know, there's someone that annoys me downstairs. I get annoyed with men very easily, so it feels like a man, but he'd just be pissing me off. I don't, I'm a, I'm a city girl. I don't do the bullshit. So it just feels like there's someone vaguely spooky. Well, that's the thing. And I'm like, I'm not talking to you through this thing. And then, no disrespect, because I respect a trickster, I respect a dickhead, I don't care, but we not doing it through the boards today. But I would say vinegar downstairs sometimes maybe, because it feels like it likes to be oppressive or it likes to be an asshole.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  You don't get spooked, but it feels like it tries to spook you and you'd be like, don't fuck with me, and then it does it anyway. Fuck that. Yeah, no, clear it out, but vinegar. But we don't have to worry. And then, don't be spooked of spirit. It's literally like being spooked of your mind. We don't need to fear. But it is like walking in the city. Like, when you travel anywhere, keep your wits about you. But it definitely feels like there's sentience downstairs that's grumpy and likes to make people feel some type of way. And then, seed pod. Was it of dust? Are you talking about dust? Or was there something that burst or something? Yeah. Because that's, that's the thought that I had when we all said, ooh, and we were like, nope. So it was absolutely some trickster.

• 40:12Speaker 06

  I'm glad that the trickster came through too, because I really like him and I kiki with him. And there was a time that he like, uh, interacted with a joke that I made, where, um, when this library was Kim's office, uh, she had her desk in here and she had a bouquet of flowers that had this like, seed pod thing in it. And I was like, leaving her here alone for the night. And I was like, oh, if I leave you here alone, this seed pod is gonna split open and you're gonna be a pod person. And I was like, I don't even know if you were even listening. You were like typing and you're like, huh, whatever. And I locked up, I left you here. And then when I came in in the morning, like, one of my tasks to open was to close the door to her office. So I go to close the door and the seed pod is like sitting on the edge of the desk, like split open. And I was like, haha, so funny, Kim.

• 40:55Speaker 06

  And then when you came in, I was yelling, I was like, it's pod person, pod person. She's looking at me like I'm insane. And I was like, because you, because you opened the seed pod.

• 41:04Speaker 04

  And I said, I didn't know such thing. I didn't know such thing.

• 41:07Speaker 06

  I think it was him interacting with the joke that I made. And, uh, there was, there's been like other stuff, like there was, when we had the skeletons set up, there was one night that I was like closing and I was turning off the lights. And when I got close to one skeleton, it like lurched out at me and I was like, it made me laugh so hard, but it scared the shit out of me.

• 41:23Speaker 04

  And the mephistal.

• 41:24Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 41:25Speaker 04

  And the top hat.

• 41:26Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 41:27Speaker 04

  It like connect, it like attached itself to certain weird objects that we would find.

• 41:30Speaker 06

  And I think it, like, it, or he knows that I'm kind of like down to clown, so he clowns with me.

• 41:38Speaker 03

  Because I also, I don't like the assholes, but I'm not gonna make them not feel hurt either. And it feels like he has a lot of heavy feelings. He gets a lot of anger. He likes to spook other people, that makes him feel better. I don't know, I read bitchy ladies all the time. I'll read a bitchy man, I don't care. I'm just not gonna let him get all willy-nilly because I think that he doesn't know boundaries. So I'm like, we're not gonna even attempt to do with the board because it feels like we all know the presence of this person. I'm kind of tempted to go into the basement. I want to go in. Basement. I'm gonna let her do that. Yeah, and then may he be well and may he go fucking find something to do up there. Good lord. And then I'm annoyed by him, but he feels contained. I'm unwilling to contact him through this. He seems perfectly grumpy about it, but it's fine. And that's the thing, we never fear. I'm so intrigued. Thing too. I'm like, I don't wanna be a dick to him, but he doesn't know boundaries yet.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  There's something over this side of the table that I keep feeling drawn towards. Take one more deep breath.

• 42:29Speaker 03

  Ash, what state did you grow up in? Massachusetts.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  Take a couple deep breaths. Everyone, actually, can we close our eyes and can you put your hands flat on the table one more time?

• 42:41Speaker 03

  Is your mother's mother with us on the planet? Mm-hmm. Okay. Do you see her often? Mm-hmm. Okay. She's all in my brain, but I was like, I think she's present. Is she religious or does she dream? She has dreams. She's like in both places or something. Is she a witchy thing? Mm-hmm. Ah. Perfect. Dude, that squares that away, cuz I was like, who's grandma? But I'm like, dude, she's alive. I swore she was alive. Alright, you guys. Yeah, and then there's still a creature, but I think we squared away your creature, but your creature keeps coming. Was she very young, though? She was younger than I thought she would be when she died. She like six? Yeah, she's a little. Okay. Did you have her for six years or you had her her whole life? Her whole life. Okay. Mm-hmm. Alright. Is she fickle? Does she come in and then she go and then she come and then she go? Mostly to other people.

• 43:27Speaker 03

  Yay. She's your kin girl? Okay. Alright, take one more deep breath. And then let me just look at y'all. Sorry. There's something about you, but you're also private, so I keep not going into your tea. Does that make sense? You're welcome to.

• 43:40Speaker 03

  You're very smart. You're very psychic. Are you a channeler or something? Dude, since you were like a little tiny thing, right? And it's like, doo. It's like, what the fuck is that? It's like Harley's in there. I collect spirit boards, so my eyes like twenty. Hell, yeah. Yeah, cuz your brain channels too. Very much. Do you dream at night? Yes.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  You guys spook sometimes? Yes. Don't let them spook you, girl. Cuss them out. Yeah. I will. Some pots and pans in the house. Do like the Italians do. No, you bang it around and you say, get out of my house. Shake this out back. No, literally. Take it to back girls club. Everyone's a channeler, it's just the way you work, but channeler, channeler. You don't like to be rude, but your brain is big. Does that make sense? Like, you don't like to go chase them, but they come and you're like, oh, alright, well, whatever. So it's like infrequent, but it exists. You're very appreciative, but they also give you space, but you have your fucking weird experiences. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like far and few in between, but very strange when they exist. Yeah. Yours are frequent and often? Yeah. You. Take one more deep breath. Okay? Play with you, cuz you look and they're like.

• 44:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think I want it. I want it to go. You want it and they don't do. They're like, you're too thirsty. You gotta get hitcher. You gotta get sassy with them. It's also not far away. Like, usually we look too far for a spirit, or we're like, am I a medium? And we go away. It's literally right there all the time. It's a spirit. I also do that. I'll be like, give me a sign. And there's like twenty signs thrown at me. Give me another one!

• 45:10Speaker 00

  Give me your sign.

• 45:11Speaker 03

  Yeah. I feel like I need to be more specific with the sign. Yeah. No. You feel like you don't let spirits bother you. Does that make sense? Like, if you feel them, you're like, no, I don't care. I'm out of my business, whatever. I'm gonna walk right through them. Yeah. She's like, I'm busy. I don't care. And then that's the thing, cuz none of us know. Like, information exists. And then, like, we had experiences here. But what the hell is it? Like, is it a consciousness? Is it a memory? Is it that you guys know these stories and they're coming through your consciousness? Or is it that spirit is there? That's what we don't know. I'm intrigued of the evidence that we got. How do we feel about what we got? What do we think about that question, I guess? Like, do we think that it's all consciousness? Do we think that it's science? Do we think that they literally come and visit? What do we think?

• 45:52Speaker 03

  I think it's a little, little mixture. Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a little bit of everything. I think so, too. Mm-hmm. Cuz I think there's like energy, like the scientific part. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's why I like to not know stuff going in. Cuz I like to see what the hell's in the room. And then some of it is like, okay, you have a dog and you run. And then some of it is, oh, spirit, ooh, that's from the past or that's from the eighteen hundreds. Technically, so all of us are like the pinpoint of the moment that we're in now. Reading is supposed to be through the time. So, close your eyes, for example, and then it's through the past of who you've been, the future of who you'll be, all at the pinnacle of this one moment. So, consciousness is timeless, which is why we can get information through it. Like, we get the information, but where does it come from? We can really only

• 46:35Speaker 03

  speak and then tell tales and tell stories together and try to build that. And then we won't know until we go. And then they try to tell us and we miss the signs. And we're like, are you there? They're like, yes. We're like, I don't know. It's like, oh, my god. Your mom is here. Yeah, on the planet? Okay. Yeah.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  You have a sister? Yeah. You have one or two? Uh. Okay, totally. A couple. Okay, totally. But one, like, actually, full sister. Okay. Oh, the other, like, half-sisters, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Take one more deep breath. I didn't grow up. Okay.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  Do your grandparents religious or something? Yeah. Okay. Cuz like, present, but they don't wanna come cuz they mind their business and they like to guard you in their own fucking way. Does that make sense? It sounds right. Yeah. Cuz they feel there. You almost feel asking about them. And then they would be annoyed to not give you something. Were they together? Uh, well, I never met my grandfather. Okay. Alright, take one more deep breath.

• 47:33Speaker 03

  Did he speak another language, too?

• 47:36Speaker 03

  Probably. Okay, okay. Italian? Ah, you're Italian? Hell, yeah, girl. I don't think I knew that about you. Okay. Yeah, does your mama think about her mama a lot or did you care for her mama? Cuz your mama's all over you, but she's alive, but it's her mama saturating her brain. She dreams of her? Yeah. Your mama's a psychic, too. Well, that's the thing. We all are. It's so common. Like, we're all like, oh, I'm a psychic. Dude, you're literally, if you're human, you're psychic. Cuz being human is very strange. So, trust the process, trust the information that you get, trust the psychicness in yourself and in others. And then we corroborate in others, cuz we're always all just the mouth, too. You don't need to be the psychic thing. The universe is a psychic thing. If you look, it's there. If you think that you're a psychic, you're gonna miss all the stuff. And then you get all hoity-toity and there's no need for all that. Take one more deep breath.

• 48:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, but your grandma is avoidant, because this is the session that we're doing, but she's present for your mama and you will receive the messages. It's just that it felt like you were thinking about her and she didn't wanna miss out on you. Your grandfather feels similar, though. He's moody and he's hardworking, but he's funny. Makes you think of dogs. Does he have dogs? Uh, maybe they did. Okay. Like, when my mom was growing up. Okay. Does she have a brother, your mom? Yeah. Okay, one? Yeah. Okay. She's funny. She doesn't like the kids, does she? My mom? Yeah. No. Okay. What does she do? She's retired now. Oh, good. Pickleball. Pickleball! Ash, she should! Oh, my god, okay. Watching the grandchildren. Oh, yeah, she watches the nieces. The baby, yeah? She is, I'm in. Hell, yeah. Oh, cuz your daughter, I mean, sorry, your sister has daughters or whatever? Yeah. Okay. Alright, everyone, take one more deep breath.

• 49:13Speaker 03

  You feel good. You feel guarded recently. You're very protected recently.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  Take one more deep breath. Cuz you've been tired and you've been overworking. Is that true? I have two kids.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  You literally feel on the planet, cuz you don't have time for the woo-woo devotion. Like, it literally feels like they leave you because they're like, she got laundry to do. She damn busy. Do you dream? Yes. Cuz yours come on your own and you don't like them to be spoken. Is that true? Um, I guess it depends on. Both parents are alive, yeah? What's happening. Yes. Okay. Do you have a sibling? Mm-hmm. One? Yes. Okay. Take one more deep breath.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  What's your sign? Leo. Fire girl. Okay. And then how old are you?

• 50:00Speaker 03

  Thirty-three. I saw her, not now. No, literally, I don't know. I ask people these questions all the time. I'm like, how old's your brother? You gotta be like, ah. My thirty. Starts at three. Alright. Yeah, there's heat on you, there's stuff on you, but I can't translate it yet well, so I'll keep going. I'm gonna pause on you, baby girl. Take one more deep breath.

• 50:21Speaker 03

  Do you read a lot? Well, you guys both read a lot, cuz you do podcasts, but do you read a lot? No. I do read a lot. I do read, like, I'm literally.

• 50:33Speaker 03

  No, I do not, girl. Okay. No, I feel fine. I almost feel like I'm grasping at straws now. Which is fine, but I'm like, tell me, is there anything? Don't tell me what, don't tell me who, but is there a question that someone has or someone, that someone wants me to see if I can find? You can say yes if so. Yes. Okay. Take one more deep breath. Get comfy cozy. Are you asking about a woman? No. Okay.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  Take one more deep breath.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  She's funny? She's sweeter and moody at the same time? Does that make sense? Like, she's sweeter than the other woman in the family, but she is also stubborn and good and fiery. Is that true? Yes. She's shorter than y'all? She's so short.

• 51:14Speaker 03

  Cuz she's funny, she's very communicative, but, like, she's, mm. Take one more deep breath. She's very, she likes things the way she likes them. People respect her boundaries and her wishes very, very much. Is she head of family? Like, tiny, tiny head of family? Uh, yeah, I'm thinking of my dad's mom. Ah. Take one more deep breath. Tell me, did she have some stress before she left or was she annoyed with her body before she left? But did she have a lot of shit to do? She had a very, very long battle with dementia. She was so annoyed, cuz she's, it's all hot and she's like, yeah, and I'm like, baby, what's going on? Cuz she feels annoyed and fussy, cuz her brain was so present until it wasn't, and then she was just fucking annoyed. Does that make sense?

• 51:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, and she kinda lived in the spirit world and physical world at the same time. Cuz she doesn't feel like she liked that. Like, I'm like, oh, fun. She's like, girl, that was not enjoyable at all. Cuz she was not into that stuff in that way, but she's tiny. It's just when I saw her, she had a grumpy little face, but she wasn't mad. She just was a little annoyed about something. And I was like, what's going on? And she keeps making me cross my arms and I keep having to put my hands on the table, but she's not like a moody girl. She's just like, well, yep, not. But she's very accepting, too. Like, she takes things as they are, but then she was very annoyed with the heat in her head. It felt like she was really aggravated. Was there a grandchild born when she passed? Like, was she annoyed about seeing the grandchild and then not being able to see the grandchild? Was there a boy born or something? Yes, my firstborn.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  I'm so sorry, baby. Take one more deep breath.

• 52:46Speaker 03

  Cuz of course she's with the baby now, but she feels like she was slightly overwhelmed and knew that it was overwhelming, cuz did she meet this baby in the flesh, but then she left or something? She almost passed away. And then she met your baby and then she left? And then she visited, she opened the door when I had my child. My arms and then she returned to her body and then she passed two days later. Alright dude, hell yeah. Wow. Does she have, oh, would she have an IV or something? Probably. Does she get, do you get cold rushes in your arms or something? Or do you get tennis elbow? And if not, it's fine? I get, yeah, sometimes where like my veins feel like they're ice. Cold, yeah, what the fuck is that? That just happened to me, Jesus Christ. Do you know why? No, I thought I had a neurological.

• 53:31Speaker 03

  Me too, I'm like, you might not.

• 53:35Speaker 03

  I was like, I'm slowly dying, but I can't. Have you tried acupuncture? No, I'm terrified of needles, no way. Maybe Reiki dude, cuz like I don't read the body, I read consciousness. So when I'm ever in consciousness and I feel a physical thing, I'm like, go to the woo woo lady because I'm reading your stress. I don't read the physical body, but it's so strange, it's literally ice cold. But it made me ask if she had an IV cuz I've had IVs before. But it was kind of a basic question of a woman in the hospital, but I'm so fucking intrigued that you get cold veins cuz it literally feels ice cold. Yeah, it's always like one side. Hold on, everyone take a deep breath.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  No, you're very guided, you're fine. And then go to the doctor, but don't stress about it. If you weren't afraid of needles, I would say go to the acupuncturist, that woman has changed my life. People talk about Reiki the way I talk about acupuncture, I might say go to Reiki cuz I shouldn't be feeling physical stuff, you know? Like it's consciousness that we read, sometimes spirit gives me evidence of how they left. But I'm so intrigued and I'm intrigued that she brought that through. But I don't know what to think of it and then don't get spooky, you're fucking fine. But go to the doctor and then go to the acupuncturist. But she's all around and she's funny cuz she's very on top of the things that need to be done, which feels like exactly what she would have done. She is annoyed that she was gone for a minute. Take one more deep breath. And then I asked you if it was a woman, you said no, so I know that it's a man and I hate that I know that, but that's fine. Take one more deep breath. I just hate leading in that way, you know what I mean? Like, now I know it's a man, but I like when they come to me.

• 54:54Speaker 03

  Cuz a woman felt first, so I'll search for who you're looking for, but I don't make up stuff, so if I can't find it, no offense to the spirit at all, no offense to the relationship, it does not mean that they're not there. But I like to do the evidence, I like to make the things that you can prove. They're always there though, so please don't ever feel if I don't pull them through as an invalidation of their love for you. And I know that you probably know that, but I'll say that. But thank you. Take a couple of deep breaths, get comfy cozy. Yours is a human, right? Four, two lights, not four, alright. Sometimes people do that to me. I'm like looking for a grandpa, I'm like, is this a very small furry man?

• 55:28Speaker 03

  Take a couple of deep breaths, get comfy cozy. He's, I think who you're asking about is funny, but quiet sometimes. Does he like history? Mm-hmm. And then he makes me think of walking or birds, does he walk a lot or does he send you bluebirds? Someone sent bluebirds before I got here, actually. I've been seeing bluebirds a ton lately. Well, I just got. I just got. Yeah. Cuz I forgot when I was in work today, I was like thinking about this and I was like, oh, and then I saw bluebirds, but I was like, no, it's important, you're supposed to remember. And then I don't have a good memory, so I'm so sorry. Blue jays for a long time. No, and it's so cliche, Cardinals and blue jays, but I'm like, no, there's bluebird. No, those are always my sign. Yeah. You too, though? Not this, not this man in bluebirds, right? Bluebirds was you, would he, does he walk a lot, that man? Like, did he go on walks or was he very pensive of motion?

• 56:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't wanna pull at him, I don't like pulling at strings, I'm sorry. No, don't worry, that's okay. Feel them out and then ask before your dreams, does he come in your dreams? Sometimes. Alright, beautiful. You can direct your dreams sometimes because we're all the pinnacle of our spirit, so we can speak to our spirit and see what happens and see what comes. Yeah, I just don't like grasping at them. If I get no a couple of times, I'm like, alright, I'm either in the wrong place or I don't wanna be disrespectful to spirit or pull where I'm not supposed to pull, you know? Yeah. Alright, take one more deep breath.

• 56:44Speaker 03

  How do we feel, you guys?

• 56:49Speaker 03

  Alright, kids.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  We hope you enjoyed watching the séance that we did at Nocturne. Our very first séance. And also really not scary, very lighthearted and safe. Not what I had imagined the séance to be at all because my only experience with séances was from horror movies. Yes. Like the Conjuring movies. Right, exactly, or the others. Where someone gets possessed. No one floated, no eyes rolled back into heads. No. There was one moment where things started to get a little spooky when the entity from the basement was making itself known and was kind of aggressive. It tried to come up a couple of times. And we even filmed an alternate ending to this episode, we were, we were gonna go like Blair Witch on all of you. We were like, let's go down to the basement, well, actually show it to you now.

• 57:36Speaker 04

  Um, but everyone says they're uncomfortable in the basement.

• 57:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I don't like it and I just refuse to do it. It's like sitting next to the weird guy on the bus. I'm like, no.

• 57:44Speaker 06

  I'm not the only one, it doesn't bother me. And my husband is a huge skeptic and he went down there and he came up and he was like, they should know.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 57:51Speaker 03

  Oh, shit.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  It feels like an actual like.

• 57:54Speaker 03

  It's funny because I almost wanna know what the hell he wants, but I'm like, this is an open space and we got a lot of people with a lot of families and I'm like, I'm not trying to get anyone's stuff, Harry. I'm kinda tempted to go into the basement. I wanna go in the basement.

• 58:07Speaker 01

  I'm gonna let her do that.

• 58:09Speaker 03

  Should we go?

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Should we? Should we go in the basement?

• 58:17Speaker 03

  That's, that's where, that's where shit happens.

• 58:34Speaker 01

  But it was such a lighthearted evening. Overall, I thought that was so much fun.

• 58:39Speaker 03

  It was so calm. But I didn't get possessed.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  I know, I was kinda sad, but I'm glad you can get in my car after this.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  I'm glad too cuz I would like a burger.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  Period. I feel like the most unexpected thing, I didn't expect the planchette to start moving so quickly.

• 58:51Speaker 03

  Honestly, same.

• 58:52Speaker 01

  And when I was, I was like, I swear I'm not moving it, like.

• 58:55Speaker 03

  I was barely touching.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  This is the first time I've ever done a Ouija board.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  In my life. If anyone has ever watched any of the collabs we've done with Morbid in the past or just also listens to Morbid, you'll know that both Sabrina and Elena are very pro talking board, very pro Ouija board, very pro. Dabbling in the dark. Very, yes. And Ash and I have always been like, see ya, we're gonna go like snack in the kitchen or something, like we don't wanna be any part of this. I actually texted Ash a couple of days ago cuz I was thinking back to the séance and I was like, I cannot believe that neither of us put up a fight, no one questioned anything, we just suddenly both placed our hands down on the Ouija board. I know. So out of character for both of us. And so nonchalantly, yeah, there's no. It's just a. Chris and the girl energy that was there, it just felt. Safe. Yeah.

• 59:41Speaker 03

  I would do this again in a heartbeat.

• 59:43Speaker 01

  You know that TikTok sound that's like fabulous, give me 14 of them?

• 59:46Speaker 03

  Yup, that's, that's how we feel.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  That's how I feel about séances.

• 59:49Speaker 04

  We have fun here.

• 59:50Speaker 03

  Yes, we do. That was so much fun.

• 59:52Speaker 04

  It was so much fun. I can't believe Fifi immediately came through.

• 59:55Speaker 03

  I know, I'm so excited cuz she's who I wanted to talk to the most.

• 59:58Speaker 04

  And I can't believe like we didn't tell any of them, like the, the, the story and it was like the first thing that we were gonna talk about, so I'm telling you, the more and more I live in Salem, it's crazy.

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  And it was really funny to watch it all happen with her portrait on the wall, like

• 1:00:16Speaker 03

  right behind everyone and not, people really not realizing that she was there, but. I like that we got to name the shop ghost, I hope that that resonates well with her.

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  And so now that we know her name, instead of Our Lady of Nocturne, it will be, please allow us to introduce you to Miss Fifi.

• 1:00:32Speaker 03

  This is like my whole life, I'm so obsessed with this work, I'm obsessed with evidence, humanness, psychickness, mediumship, evidence after death. I don't know what happens when you die, but I like sitting in spaces where we can explore and experiment with humanness.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  This really did feel very much like a Salem séance because Salem has such good energy despite all of the horrors that this town has faced. I love the energy of females reclaiming the title witch. And there were moments when things maybe felt not safe and Chris was very quick to claim the space back. Boundaries. So happy Halloween. Thank you for joining us and we will. See you on the other side.

• 1:01:20Speaker 03

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• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  And we, uh, do stone fire pizza parties for the kids. I'm really scared right now. Stonefire, from our tradition to yours, together we on.