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🎄 Ghost Stories, Black-Eyed Kids, and a Kiss Under the Mistletoe 👻 This week, we’re turning up the spooky with a mix of heart-pounding hauntings, emotional connections, and festive ghostly cheer. From the tale of a picture frame with a mind of its own (hello, Grandma's window-watching legacy!) to the terrifying black-eyed children who might still be lurking, this episode will give you chills in all the right ways. Plus, Sabrina has officially declared her dream of a passionate ghostly rendezvous. Yep, the spirit world may just have a suitor waiting under the mistletoe... In this episode, we share: Abigail’s haunting family history with a spectral older brother named Jonathan, whose presence is as tender as it is terrifying. The eerie encounter with the infamous black-eyed children—complete with blackened teeth, creepy toes, and way too many, "Do you want to play?" vibes. Paranormal synchronicities that include a name on a Ouija board, a cemetery discovery, and a heartwarming "invisible string" love story that makes even the universe blush. If you’re looking for a mix of holiday spirit, ghostly kisses, and hauntingly beautiful tales, grab your cocoa (or mulled wine, Sabrina-approved!) and settle in for this episode. And don’t forget to send us your own ghost stories—because what’s scarier than missing out on the fun? 🔮 See you on the other side! Watch the Video Version Here. Hotels/Places Mentioned from Amsterdam and Bruges: Bruges, Belgium Hotel - Relais Bourgondisch Cruyce Largest Occult Text Collection - Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica also known as The Ritman Library Shop2Be Beer - Bruges, Belgium Have ghost stories of your own? E-mail them to us at [email protected] Encounters episodes are released every Thursday at 9am PST/12pm EST. Corinne and Sabrina hand select a couple of paranormal encounters from our inbox to read in each episode, from demons, to cryptids, to aliens, to creepy kids... the list goes on and on. If you have a story of your own that you'd like us to share on an upcoming episode, we invite you to email them to us! This episode is sponsored by iRestore, Lume Deodorant, Quince, Helix and Betterhelp. Give the gift of confidence to yourself or someone you love. For a limited time only, our listeners get 25% off their Illumina Face Mask when you use code TGOG25 at iRestorelaser.com Lume’s Starter Pack is perfect for new customers. It comes with a Solid Stick Deodorant, Cream Tube Deodorant, two free products of your choice (like Mini Body Wash and Deodorant Wipes), and free shipping. As a special offer for listeners, new customers get 15% off all Lume Products when you use code TGOG at LumeDeodorant.com Gift luxury this holiday season without the luxury price tag. Go to quince.com/tgog for free shipping on your oder and 365-day returns. Helix is offering 20% off + two free Pillows for all mattress orders when you go to helixsleep.com/tgog. Find comfort this December, with Betterhelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/tgog today to get 10% off your first month. If you enjoy our show, please consider joining our Patreon, rating and reviewing on iTunes & Spotify and following us on social media! Youtube, Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and Discord. Edited and produced by Jaimi Ryan, original music by Arms Akimbo! Disclaimer: the use of white sage and smudging is a closed practice. If you’re looking to cleanse your space, here are some great alternatives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:51Speaker 01

  Hi. Hi. I feel so far away from you. I don't know why. Isn't that weird? It does feel extra far today, and nothing has been changed. Nothing's changed. Somehow, we feel drawn to be closer. I just want to hold your hand. I want to be in your lap. So let's get into this. This is Two Girls, One Ghost. Two girls, one ghost. And welcome back. We are your Ghostesses. That is Corinne. Hello. And I am Sabrina. And I have a couple of trips to tell you about. And I've decided to split it up. Today I'm going to tell you about Europe and then in our regular episode, I will tell you about Savannah. Oh my God, fuck, I forgot you went to Savannah without me. I know, there's so many things to talk about. So much has gone on. I have one small ghost story too. Well, start with your ghost story, miss. Okay, well, it's super small. Okay. But it's, it's cool. I've been to Brian's parents' house how many times?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Tons. A million. Yeah. And for some reason, over Thanksgiving was the first time that Brian's dad, my father-in-law, Gary, decided to tell me a ghost story that is happening in their house that has gone on for years. Yes. So Gary's mother had passed years ago. And he said that she always really loved looking out the window and A specific window? I don't know. I didn't ask. Okay. I'm not sure if it's in their current house or if it was just like in general, but like she liked gazing outside, which is a normal thing. Yeah. To enjoy. I prefer looking into people's windows. Yes. You're either outside or you're inside. Which one are you? Let us know. Are you peeping or are you gazing? Poking. I don't know. Peeping or poking? Interesting. Or both.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  Both are something someone named Tom would do. But in their like living room area off of the kitchen, there is a big bay window. And one of the sitting chairs has a table kind of similar to this next to it. And on that table is four or five picture frames. Okay. One picture frame is a frame of his mom and him and his two sisters. When they were kids. Okay. And every single day, he said, for a long, long time, that one picture frame, the only one, moves to face the window. All of the other ones. Yeah, there's photos and there's also, you know, like the little like home is where the heart is. Like it's not that, but you know, like those little signages. Like TJ Maxx stuff.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, exactly. There's a bunch of stuff on here. It is the only one that moves. And he pointed it out to me and I was like, oh my God, that's beautiful. That's wild. And he turns the picture frame back. The next time I walk by, it's turned. And I noticed every single time I walked by, it had been turned ever since he pointed out. I mean, bizarre. That's beautiful. It is beautiful. And also lesson should be, let's just keep the photo facing out the window. I know, but he keeps turning it back because it has to be, all the photos should just be turned at the same angle. Right. So that she can be in company with all the other. Sure. She just wants to see what's happening outside. But he was like, I'm so confused because like, I thought maybe it was just walking and you know, like I'm walking and then it's just shaking things. Just the one photo.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, hmm, interesting. And he moved it back. And then that whole entire like four or five days we were there, the picture kept moving and it stops at the, it doesn't keep going either. It stops perfectly at the angle where it's right outside the window. It doesn't keep going, which it would keep going if it were walking. That is so cool. And other frames would be moving. Right. Anyway, he was sitting on that, which is the lesson of the holidays, which we always say, ask, ask people for ghost stories. I definitely have brought up the paranormal, obviously with my in-laws plenty of times, and yet it still took. Even with your own family, that happens. My dad is still sprinkling things in. Yeah. Like, what? Did this memory like just pop into your brain and you forgot it for 30 years? Maybe that's what it is.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Maybe it is. Not everyone talks about ghosts every day for their job. So sometimes it lingers in the back of the brain. How blessed are we? Blessed be the ghost story. Okay. Well, that's so sweet and a great way to start this episode. And this is an encounters episode. If you're joining us for the first time, we basically collect your ghost stories via email and then we read them back to you. I literally forgot it was encounters. I'm just here to chat. You're just here to talk. And basically it's a conversation between two friends who. Actually enemies. Two enemies. Who used to be friends, now enemies. That's why we're sitting further away from each other today.

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  I can't even imagine being enemies. I could not either. Like you're literally my only friend.

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  I have a story that you're not a part of. Yeah. Well, I'm getting to that point.

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  You've moved closer to me. I have moved closer to you. Three thousand miles across the country. So far right now. I know. But yeah, so we used to be bi-coastal besties as in we. Met in college, we then separated, went our own ways. We got. We, we got, we had a separation. Yeah, we had a separation. I almost said the D word. Well, I've had a divorce, so not with Corinne. Not yet. This is the healthiest. No, never. Well, we have to get married first. We are married. To have the opportunity. We literally have a business together. I think that's, that's legal. It's. Legally binding. It's more than married. Yeah, you're stuck with me forever. I know. Anyway, now we live thirty minutes away from each other, separated by the Satanic Temple in Salem, by the way. It's like the midpoint for us. Really? Yeah. So cool.

• 7:05Speaker 01

  I would like to talk to them. I actually texted myself as I was driving. Email Satanic Temple in Salem. How cool would it be to have a conversation? I mean, that would be really cool. It's very misunderstood. Let's chat. A hundred percent. Yeah. I would like to have the conversation inside the temple. I'm not sure if that's allowed. That's exactly what I want. Yeah. You're in my brain. To learn about, because we're also open minded. Yeah. Obviously, we come into every episode being like, we know nothing about anything. Every story changes our mind and shapes our understanding of the paranormal and the occult and all of that. So I'd be very curious. Same. So let's do it. Okay. Speaking of curiosity and open mindedness, uh, my trip to Europe. Yes. So Payne and I went to Amsterdam and Bruges and I have. Is Bruges in Belgium?

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. It is. I have decided I am in my snow globe era and not my like collecting them, but my, I have to be within a space that feels like a snow globe. Hold on. Not quite a snow globe, but very close. And I feel like this prop has to be here. What is it? A sand globe?

• 8:06Speaker 01

  Oh man, it's so cute, isn't it? It's so beautiful. Okay. So this is. Now you can talk about where you were, which is in here. I basically. In this cloche. Yeah. And also Marblehead, I feel like is this too. I live. Full of New England, really. Like, I loved flying back for the holidays from LMU because you would just like look out at all the little. I know. Ah. It was the snow on Thursday. Is it? Oh my gosh. Fingers crossed. Oh. I know. I'm gonna make the first snow angel with my child. Oh my god, that's so cute. Please time you. You can watch. I'll just drive over. Okay. We'll do it. Oh my gosh. He's gonna hate it. It's gonna be so cute though. He hates his snowsuit. But you were inside here. I was inside there. So I had been to Amsterdam previously in twenty fifteen.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. I think. And I loved it. And I went with my sister. I love. Loved it. This time I did not love it. I mean, I liked Amsterdam. Yeah. And there was like some really cool stuff that we did. Did you see other parts? Like, did you not repeat anything you did the first time? And so you just. I did, but I think I was like in a different place in my life and the energy there was very different to me. Isn't that interesting? That same thing happened when I went to Spain with my family. We went to Madrid and Barcelona and I hated Spain. And then a few years later, I went with my cousin Lenny and I was like, I really like this place. Right. It just totally depends on where you are in your life. You know, Amsterdam is known for its red light district and stuff. And so like, we were like, let's walk through. I balled my fucking eyes out. I was. Just because of.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  I truly, I looked at Pan and I was like, I have to leave. Like, there was just something about creepy people leering in. The energy of the men leering in and like licking their, like literally there was a man standing there by himself licking his lips towards like one of the women and I was just like, and it made me like so sad for women historically in the past and like how much we've had to go through and like even present day. It just like, I balled my eyes out. That's so gross. Yeah. I hate people. I hate people. I respect the people that want to do it as a promotion and choose to. That's not what I'm. But it's the creepy. Yeah, it's the creepy people. Who treat women as objects, not as women. Sit there and like lick their lips. Gross. Yeah. That's disgusting.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. So that was the part that I didn't love. But there were some really cool things that we did. We actually went to the library with the largest collection of occult books and texts. Whoa. Which was a recommendation from one of our listeners or a couple of our listeners. Wow. And. It's in Amsterdam. How interesting. It's in Amsterdam. I wonder why it's there. Like, is there a specific significance to that area? There's someone who owned the house who had a collection and then now it's become a. Library and like people go there and study and sit there and read the text. It was really, really cool. That is really cool. Yeah, but Bruges was just absolutely magical. Hmm. Did you have hot chocolate? I did not, but I had mulled wine. Oh, yum.

• 11:03Speaker 01

  I can't have hot chocolate. It hurts my tummy. Okay. Even with like almond milk or something? Hurts my tummy. Okay. You know what's sad is that I'm usually a big sweet tooth person. But for some reason on this trip, like I had zero sweet tooth. Which is the opportunity to have a sweet tooth. Where you have all of the like waffles with Nutella or like whatever. I know. I had a bite of one Belgian waffle, which was great. But I also like, actually, maybe I didn't have a tooth at all. Like I wasn't hungry. Like I wasn't like very hungry in the trip. Like I didn't even get to like savor. By the scenery. Yeah, yeah. Actually, there was one sandwich in Amsterdam because Amsterdam has so much vegetarian vegan food. There was one sandwich that I like, I'm craving it. What was on it? It was a vegetarian.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like vegan meat slices and it had like a sriracha aioli. It wasn't like anything like extravagant. Which is better. But it was just so good. Don't even get me on the rant of American food. Oh, my God. I'm so anti-America when it comes to like food and the FDA. And how. I'm like a crazy person. Things taste different. Yes. Yeah. And you feel so much worse here. That is the proof.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Also, it makes me sad because Europe like doesn't sell Diet Coke. They only sell Coke Zero. Because aspartame, they're like anti-aspartame. So it makes me realize like how bad aspartame must be for us. Yeah, you're not even supposed to drink Coke when you're pregnant either because of the aspartame. But I love Diet Coke. That's why I import now German formula for my child. Importing Diet Coke from Europe. Do that too. Although I don't. I mean, if you see Mexican Coke, just get that. I often do. So much like I don't. The sugar. Yeah. You gotta choose. I don't like the taste of the regular. What's worse for you, aspartame or sugar? It's all bad. I don't know. We're gonna die. Anyway, trip was amazing. First go to Bruges and eat there. The place that we stayed too is this like, it was just so picturesque. I could live there.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, every photo you took, I was like this. Yeah. Like you, you buy these prints. Right. This is beautiful. Yeah, it stunning. What are the people like? The locals? They were nice. I mean, it seems pretty touristy, so I think. Kind of hard to differentiate. It's hard, but we were, so we're staying at this, I'm gonna butcher. Sure what it's called, it's like relay.

• 13:17Speaker 01

  Oh, interesting. I like that. But it but it was called the rely something. I'll I'll put a link where we stayed and it was this little very old 16th century building on the canals and it had, I think, 11 rooms. So cute, so quaint. Very quaint. And they like made us mold wine at night. We just sat in the lobby. People would walk past and they like thought it was a bar, but it was just pain and I sitting in the lobby drinking like. Drinking mold wine. Yeah. That's so sweet. I love that. It was very sweet, uh, very like hospitable, but. Feels like small town Airbnb. Exactly. Airbnb, bed and breakfast. Bed and breakfast, yes. But we went over to right next to it was like, uh, this beer shop. It's like shop to be and it's like this beer wall and all these beers, Belgian beers.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  And we were sitting next to these two old men, like chain spoken cigs that I was like, I kind of want to move seats. But as we were getting up to leave, one of the men goes, oh, my brother said you're staying at the hotel right there. And we learned like it was his beer shop, like he owned it. And the guy who was sitting across from him owned the hotel and he recognized us from checking in and then they talked about us. And so he like reached out to us and was like, hey, here are a couple of recommendations. So they were really nice. That is so nice. That is so kind. That almost reminds me of when I was in Iceland and I went with our friend Marissa. And I got to our hostel like six hours before Marissa did because of flight difference, Boston versus LA.

• 14:43Speaker 01

  And so I sat in the lobby drinking a beer at like 7 a.m. Of course. And two locals walked by and they were probably in their like 60s and they saw me and they just walked in and were like, can we sit with you? Cause they thought like I was a lonely solo traveler, which is so kind. I mean, at that point I was a lonely solo traveler. Yeah. And they sat with me for like over an hour. Telling you what to do and like everything. Just like about their lives, about Reykjavik, about like just, yeah, the festival that was going on. So sweet. Just wanted to be kind. That's so nice. But British is amazing. Also, that owner of the like beer place, his daughter like worked there and. There's just such a beautiful affection that Europeans give their family. I don't know, it's different.

• 15:28Speaker 01

  That I also cried seeing that because I don't have a relationship with my dad. Which also- Maybe the beer guy can be your papa. My new papa. I'm looking for a daddy.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  But not one to be found at the red light district. Yeah, not like that. Actually, this is a pitch to you because I kind of brought it up to you, but we didn't talk about it. Or maybe I didn't bring it up to you and I brought it up to you in my head. Instead of doing encounters for our December Patreon episode, I was thinking we do like a mental health check-in and talk about our lives. You did not bring that up to me. But do you like that idea? Yes, I do. Okay, so if you want to hear more about my dad and what's going on, tune into the Patreon bonus on Patreon, which comes out on Christmas. And if you're not on Patreon, we do a lot of hot takes and things about our personal lives on Campfire Stories. We do. When you were traveling, I just told Oh, I watched. everyone about our hospital visit. I watched. But I was like, don't tell anyone because Brian hasn't told people. But here I am on Campfire Stories.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  Telling like 80 people on Campfire Stories. I'm like, shh, everyone's sworn to secrecy. Listen, they pay to hear our secrets. Yeah, $5 a month and we'll tell you anything about our lives. I have some stuff to dish. Anyway, we have ghost stories. I feel like this was a long introduction, but we have- Normally, we don't do encounters like this. We get straight into the stories. If this is your first time listening, we chit chat for the first 10, 15 minutes in a regular episode. But we haven't seen each other for a little bit, so today's different. We missed each other. Yeah. So a couple of episodes ago, I think it was episode 299, I told you a story that I learned when I was at my hairdresser. Yes. About like the woman's dad seeing the ghost George. Yes. In their dream.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  And then the next day, before the episode had even come out, we got an email in our inbox called George the Ghost. That's bizarre. So I had to read it. You know what? I actually made a mental note. Like when I saw that email come in, I was like, who's George the Ghost? Why does that sound so familiar? And it was because he would literally just told me a story about George. Yeah. Basically, we're wondering if everyone or a lot of people in the world have a George the ghost. Which is the kind of our, wasn't that part of like the joke we were making? Like George is haunting everyone. Haunting everyone. And George is like the Sven of the world. Yes. Okay, so this is from our listener, Lacey, and it's called George the Ghost. "Hi ladies. I just recently, in the last month, started listening to your podcast and cannot get enough. I have a few little anecdotes you might find spooky." And this email will be the most recent incident.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  So for a little context, in the past 20 years or so, I have lovingly blamed weird or missing things on George, the ghost, as we do on Sven. Yeah. Like, a door would randomly shut with no one near it, and I would say, "That must be George." Well, this most recent run-in with George was the day before Halloween. My kids, 13 and 16, were going on a night hike with their youth group. I always keep a flashlight hanging on a hook in the boys' room for emergencies, and I couldn't find any other flashlights, so I went and I grabbed that one, but it wasn't there. I could have sworn I put fresh batteries in it and hung it up, and I know I did because we recently had a power outage and my youngest boy, who's five, hates the dark. Hence, the flashlight. I said fleshlight.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  I'm glad you caught yourself. I did not, I thought you were gonna keep going. Nope, I heard it. That's okay. Hence, the flashlight.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  This is a five-year-old. There's no flashlight there. Gosh, it's okay. You, red light district was on your mind. No, I just think I stopped learning how to speak. Okay. Yeah, or knowing how. Hence, a flashlight near his bed. Well, it's not there, so I look around on the floor, thinking maybe it got knocked down, since my son also uses that hook for his backpack. Moving things around, I look behind the door, I look in the little toy bin by the door, and nothing. Finally, I find a different flashlight to send with my kids. They had a great time, and when they return, I was putting my five-year-old to bed, and as I'm getting ready to read him a book, I look up and stop. There, hanging on the hook is a flashlight. The flashlight. The very flashlight in the exact spot. I'm saying flashlight so many times now that it's... Yeah. I'm being so aware. You're trying so hard to not screw it up.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. The very flashlight in the exact spot I had looked three times earlier that exact night. Both my 13-year-old and my five-year-old were looking at me and were like, "Hey, are you okay?" And I was like, "Yeah, mhm." But there's the flashlight. And then my five-year-old said... Keep in mind, my five-year-old had no idea... I like how I'm speaking as if it's Lacey. Yeah, as if it's your child. But keep in mind, this five-year-old had no idea any of what Lacey had gone through. Yeah. My five-year-old looks at me and says, "Yeah, George must have put it back." So a matter of fact. I go, "Yep, I guess he did, buddy." I have more George stories, and I'll send them later, but keep up the spooky work. I'll see you on the other side, Lacey. I'm glad Lacey's child does not seem afraid of...

• 20:14Speaker 01

  The spirit that's there. It's just kind of like, they have a resident spirit. His name is George. And he just goes about life and like, that's fine. It's not overly scary. Maybe George is afraid of the dark too, and you did the flashlight. Right. And then he puts it back after, right? Yeah. George needs it. George is scared of the dark. I also like to think that like, Lacey has joked about George enough that the kids are picking up on it and they're like, ah, must be George. And their whole lives are gonna blame random things going missing and stuff on George. It's an easy out, imaginary friend George. If your mom already believes in it, you gotta adopt it as well. Just blame things on ghosts. Don't take accountability for anything that you do. Just blame it on a ghost.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Do you remember that, was it YouTube or Vine of that little girl who's like singing and then she farts in the middle of it? And then she like panics and she goes, oh my God, did you hear that? And like pretends like.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  I don't remember what it's from, but I remember, yeah. Blame it on the ghost. Blame it on the ghost. If you don't have a dog. Actually, that is a good reason to have a dog. Aside from like the love and companionship a dog gives you, you can blame farts on the dog. Yep. Even if you're like, all the way across the other side of the house, you can just be like, oh my God, those rants of toots, they just wafted on in. What did he eat today? What did he eat? I love gifting my loved ones something that they wouldn't necessarily get for themselves. Especially that little bit of luxury that they don't know that they're missing. For quality gifts at an affordable price and to gift luxury for your friends and family, our go-to is Quince. Quince lets you treat your loved ones and yourself to everyday luxury at an affordable price.

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• 22:58Speaker 01

  Well, I have a story called, "They Are Always Watching." They. They. Multiple. Us. It's us. We are watching. We see you when you're sleeping. I am a, I peep in. I look inside windows. It's me. Honestly, though, this is one of the best times of year because the perk of the sun setting so early is that people are still moving about their homes and have their lights on. So you can look inside. So you can see inside people's houses. I loved this time. Of course, that's what your perk is for you. Yeah. When I lived in Boston, I'd have to like commute walking back from work. Like, oh, you get to look in everyone's condos and townhouses and like big ass homes on Commonwealth. Loved that. Yeah. Here, it's a little harder up here because I mean, you can't walk down someone's driveway and peek in.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  But you could, but the cops might get called on you. They might. Yeah. Not if you wear all black and you're quiet like a mouse. Hi ladies. I'm a new listener. I started last Thursday. Sorry to scare you. And I've already finished the first 30 episodes and I'm currently listening to The Eighth Encounters while I write you. Oh, wait, this reminds me. Sorry. Sorry, tangent really quick. Yeah. The Campfire Stories, well, you, you rewatched it, but The Campfire Stories, when you were traveling, someone came on that binged our entire podcast in like, what, it was like a year and a half or something like that? Yeah. Tell us how long it's taken you to catch up to this point. Let us know. Yeah. We'll do a competition. It's seven and a half years. Let's do a competition. I mean, granted, we can't like prove it, but. Just tell us. Yeah. Just let us know. Put in the comments how long it has taken you to get to this point. Mm-hmm.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Or if you're new here, welcome. Welcome. Let us know. And if you listen in order or we jump around. And did you listen to the first episode and are you still here? I hope you are. Might not be. We know a lot of people aren't. We see the analytics. On YouTube, you can't, the first episode's not on YouTube, so.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  That is for good reason. Yeah. Okay. I'm a listener. I started last Thursday. I've already finished the first 30 episodes and I'm currently listening to The Eighth Encounters while I write you. Easy to say, I'm a. Obsessed. I've had my fair share of paranormal experiences in my life, but if I put them all in an email, it would be as long as the Chamber of Secrets. I promised to write back with more stories, but to start, I will share three of my experiences. Okay. My first experience was when I was a child and it was for the first six years of my life. My family lived in an old house, so parts of the story could be chalked up to just some bad wiring. But after a few years of my parents living in this house, there would be lights that would turn on and off by themselves. The computer, the TV, the stereo would switch on and off, or the volume would turn all the way up.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  Channels changed with no one being in the room, and this would all happen at all times of day and night, any hour. It stayed like that for a couple of years, but then it got worse. Our playroom as kids was in the attic. I know, I know. We stay away from attics. But this was a finished room and only accessible through my older sister's room. Oh, so creepy. Also, so cool for you to have the room that you have the access. Like, I imagine when you're like a teenager, it'd be fun to like, Yeah. have slumber parties. When you're a teen, yes. Yeah. That's the second house I lived in. My parents built it in Littleton, New Hampshire. And they made the office accessible. It was like over the garage, but my bedroom was there and you would walk through my closet to get to the

• 26:07Speaker 01

  over the garage office. And I remember, like, I lived there until I was from three to five, and I specifically remember every night being terrified of what was in that back room through my closet. Well, it is weird. Through the closet is a interesting choice because. I know. I asked my parents the other day. I was like, why would you build it? Like, you built this house. Why'd you do that? Weird move. I mean, I think you would have been haunted in any room, so. There were times in the playroom that our rocking horse would start to rock, and I don't mean just like a gush of wind coming in through the window, which the attic didn't have, by the way, and that this gust of wind could have done to this horse. It was as if someone was riding it fast with a lot of force. The door leading up to the attic didn't have a lock on it. It was barely staying shut anyway.

• 26:50Speaker 01

  But one day, the phone rang. My mom went to go get it, and she took me with her because I was young and I was fussy. And while my mom was on the phone, she heard a loud slam, and thinking my older sister fell. Down the staircase from the attic, she ran up there only to find the door had closed and locked. The clock above the door was ticking three times as fast as it shit at this point. My mom is doing everything she can to get in because she hears the rocking horse going and my older sister screaming. Oh, she got locked in there? Yes. Oh, my god. After that incident, wait, did your sister get out? Like, what happened? Well, I assume so. I think we'd know. She perished. She's still there. She lives in this attic forever. She's now rocking on the rocking horse.

• 27:29Speaker 01

  After that, the rocking horse still went off, especially in the middle of the night, and some doors would slam, the lights, the TV, the stereo, all of that never stopped. A few years after that, my parents get woken up by someone in their room screaming my dad's name, Jonathan. And then the comforter getting ripped off them, turning the corner to the hall, every door in the house slamming shut, and every light coming on at the same time. This is aggressive. Holy, like, we look cold because we are cold, but I just got even more cold. Yeah, this isn't even a clear path to escalation. This is just like some random violent outbursts. And the screaming his name and like- Ripping the comforter off and then running. Like, they could see this man running around the corner and then all the doors slamming as he runs in the hallway. God, god. What the heck?

• 28:12Speaker 01

  When I started this, I mentioned that this happened for the first six years of my life. I should also mention that these paranormal activities only started when my older sister was born in nineteen ninety-one. Just over a year before she was born, my parents-

• 28:22Speaker 01

  It's your sister's fault. Yeah. Just over a year after she was born, my parents had a stillborn. He passed away just under two weeks before his due date. My theory is that my brother, Jonathan, who is named after my dad, is the one doing these hauntings. With each of us being born, there was something that he did to get attention. With my older sister, it was the lights. Me, it was the rocking horse and the doors. The youngest, it was the comforter, calling out Jonathan. Interesting. I have chills suddenly. So they were just like single occasions? I guess, or like the- Like big outbursts and then it was just like low-key hauntings? What was in his repertoire. He changed it up when I knew- His chest of hauntings? Yes, yeah. He was like, oh, I'm- Wrestle through, which one do I do today?

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm gonna go through my Rolodex, pick out someone's number, scream Jonathan. What I do not know is if he was calling out to my dad or if he was calling out his own name to let my parents know that he was still there. But after we moved a few years later, nothing to that extent happened again. But we do believe that a spirit- Followed us or was in the house that we moved into. When I was in junior high, I went to a birthday party. Yes, we all know where this is going. I don't. Birthday party. Ouija board. Someone pulled out a Ouija board. I had a couple of experiences since my brother, so I believe in the supernatural and I did not want to play. Everyone was making fun of me, so I sat down and I put my fingertips on the planchette. The birthday girl, we can call her Chloe for the story, started asking questions and welcoming in any spirits who were listening.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  Chloe asked, is there anyone here with us? And spirits, if you can hear me, give us a sign. After a few attempts of nothing, the planchette shot over to yes. Of course, no one believed it happened on its own, but all of a sudden I had a chill come over my whole body and it felt like someone was breathing on my neck. Chloe asked, do I know you? Planchette shoots over to no. Chloe asked, do you know me? Planchette shoots over to no. Chloe asked if the spirit knows anyone in the room, and almost before she finishes asking, the planchette is over on yes. And it was shaking. She asks how, and the board spelled out B R O T H E R, brother. Oh. Whew, chills again. At this point, I'm severely freaked out. I'm still cold. I feel like someone is next to me, but I also don't want to believe it.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  So Chloe asked when the spirit died and the planchette is now moving slower. It puts the date, eleven oh five nineteen ninety. That was the day my mom delivered my stillborn brother. Literally the, to the day. The birth. Oh my gosh. I say I don't want to play anymore. Some people agree, others, including Chloe, want to keep going and she asks, what's your name? The board starts to spell. With each hit of the letter, I feel the blood draining from my face. J. Stop. O. N. A. T. And this is when I ripped my hands away, knowing that it's going to spell out my brother's name. The board goes flying across the room and everyone is speechless. I told them that I was the person that the spirit was attached to. I told them who the spirit was. And of course, no one believed me until a friend came over and asked my mom about my brother.

• 31:20Speaker 01

  She pulled out his hat and blanket that they had wrapped him in, in the hospital. Showed pictures of my mom and dad holding him and his obituary with the date eleven oh five nineteen ninety. And there's no way anyone at that party would have known that. No. I never told my mom what happened that night. I just said that I had mentioned that I have an older brother watching over me. Okay, my last story. Oh my gosh, I can't get over that story though. I know. This is like a story I want to. Print out and just like have. Read it every night. Yeah. It's Noah's bedtime story. Listen here, boy. Okay, my last story, this is something I had experienced within the past couple of years, and I didn't know what to think of it until I started listening to your podcast. Okay. I have always accepted the paranormal and I love that world, but I've never looked into it with the fear of getting possessed or honestly ending up dead.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  While listening, I heard an episode that I had to turn off because of how overwhelmingly uncomfortable I felt. What episode? I wonder if we're gonna find out. Back in 2019, I was living in a single family home with three other roommates, and we all worked in restaurants, so our days off were weird. I was home alone on a Tuesday while my roommates were at work for the night. And I remember it was the beginning of fall because I was drinking hot apple cider with bourbon. Hmm. And I was all bundled up in a winter burrito made of blankets. And I can't exactly remember what I was watching, but all of a sudden I heard laughing. It was, sounded like children playing upstairs. I brushed it off because the house made weird noises all the time. Yeah. You know, the creaking floors, the children laughing, normal house sounds. Typical house sounds. Just the house.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  A couple of minutes later, out of the corner of my eye, I saw two figures running down the stairs, and once again, I heard the laughing of children. My body froze. I was terrified.

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• 33:31Speaker 01

  I grabbed my phone for light because all of the lights on the level that I was going to were off, and I grabbed a candle. The candle wasn't lit, but it was something for me to throw.

• 33:40Speaker 01

  It was a split level house, so there were five steps down to the basement, and I was on the main level. My one roommate's paintbrushes fell From the desk and onto the floor. And that is when I saw it. Two little boys standing in my living room. One asked, do you want to play with us now? And at that moment, the light from my phone catches their eyes. Black. They also had black, almost rotten looking teeth. Oh. Black fingers. Poor babies. Black toes. I dropped my candle, the glass it was in breaks, and I turned to run downstairs. And that's when I see another boy with black eyes standing outside, looking in the window of my house. I fall down, I cover my eyes with a blanket that I still have around me and I scream, "Leave me alone, get out, get out, get out."

• 34:25Speaker 01

  And I was screaming for what felt like five minutes. And when I opened my eyes, there was no trace of the boys. I grabbed my keys, I put my slippers on that I kept by the door, and I left the house. I drove to the restaurant that I worked at at the time, still in my pajamas and my slippers. And two of my three roommates also worked there and my boyfriend of the time. I walked in, I told them what happened, no one believed me, and there was no sign of the boys again. I never knew the history of black eyed boys. From listening to the podcast, it sounds like they need to be invited in. And because I didn't do that, maybe a previous owner of the house did, and then they never left. It would explain how they were inside, but one boy never came in. Maybe he wasn't invited, or he could have been waiting for me to go outside. Either way, fuck that.

• 35:07Speaker 01

  I had never been so scared in my life and I refused to sleep in that house for a week or to be alone in it during the day. Anyway, these are some of my stories. I have plenty more to share, but I am officially creeped out writing this as the sun is setting. So I hope you like my stories and I'll see you on the other side, Abigail. Abigail. I don't know why, but I don't want to believe that these are black eyed kids, but I also know it's horrifying and it's like, I hate the situation, it's terrifying, but like, there's something about their toes and fingers being black that like, almost makes me think that like they froze. That's exactly what I was thinking, like a hypothermia, like exposure sort of thing. But it is weird that they only showed up that one time and. But one boy was outside, so that could also kind of go with the theory of. Yeah. Them somehow perishing outside.

• 35:51Speaker 01

  Right. I don't know, but it's terrifying. And the fact that Abigail was alone when that happened. Yeah. It truly feels like a haunted house because it's not like you just see them once. Like you see them running, you hear the laughter, you see them running, you hear the laughter again. They say, do you want to play with us? You freak out, you run away, you're like covering, cowering, and then there's another boy outside like. They're following you. Watching, yeah. This is a long encounter. Right. This is not just a couple of seconds, which most paranormal encounters are. But it also at some, and I think it's because this story came in combination with the other stories about Jonathan and Abigail's brother who had passed away. Like, there's part of me that wants to believe that it's connected to Jonathan in a way. But I think that's me just wanting to believe patterns.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  Or just wanting to play with his sister. Yeah, maybe. And maybe he's collected other ghost boys. He locked her older sister. Right. Into the attic and was like rocking the horse, like, dah! An older brother thing to do, right? Yeah. Full pranks. I think I want to believe it's Jonathan because it's less scary. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. What do you think? Yeah. I don't know. The Jonathan stories are. Wild and so sad. So sad, so beautiful, and so terrifying all at the same time. Yeah. The black eyed kids one. Just scary. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. That's horrifying. I would have to move. I wouldn't be able to live there. I think I'd still live there. Or I'd have to keep the lights on at all times. I mean, I have stuff happen at my house. It's not that scary, but. You want a whole frozen black eyed kids?

• 37:19Speaker 01

  No, I think there might be in the basement, though. There's some weird stuff in the basement. Oh. I don't ever use the back stairs because I'm scared of that little hallway. And the thing that was like look behind you in the corner. Mm-hmm. Yep. There's something creepy in my basement. But I have a Ouija board story for my listener Jennifer. Oh, okay. I also, should I say it or should we wait? Oh, wait. I have no idea what you're gonna say. About Ouija boards. I'm a changed person. I'm not. That's all we'll say. Coming soon in February. So this is from our listener Jennifer and it's called Ouija Board Experience. "I just wanted to tell you ladies that I love binge listening to your podcast during my entire 10-hour shift, and you ladies are honestly the only podcasts I've been listening to." That's nice. "I listen to you on my way to work, all day at work and on my way home from work.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  You gals are a huge part of my life right now. So I was listening to one of your older episodes about Ouija board encounters. Yes, I'm still catching up, but I wanted to share an experience that I had with one way back when I was about 17 years old. I'm 43 now, so my memory has been tested at this point, so I apologize if I'm a little fuzzy on the details." Anyway, I was seventeen and I was dating this kid who we'll reference him as Loser from this point forward. Okay. One night, we were at his house in his room, which was in the basement with a Ouija board. It's a great combination. A loser and a Ouija board. A Ouija board and a basement bedroom. Yeah. Yeah. We put our fingers on the planchette and began asking the usual questions. Is there a spirit here? It slides over to yes. We asked, what's your name?

• 38:48Speaker 01

  It spelled out R O D. Rod. How old are you, Rod? It answered twenty-two. We asked more questions and I can't remember what, but at one point, the planchette starts going in a figure eight and it starts spelling something out. Uh-oh. It goes to the letter J, then the letter E, then N, and it spells out my name, Jennifer. The figure eight, though, is the classic sign of the Z-Man. Ouija board Z-Man. Yeah. It continues to spell things out and fully said, Jennifer, you are mine. My heart would stop. The room suddenly felt cold and we quickly slid the planchette over to goodbye.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  We told a family friend Diane what had happened and she immediately came over and sage the entire house. And she looked at us and said, do not ever do that again. We all needed Diane in our lives. You're my Diane, for sure. Yeah, but you don't listen to me. Yeah, but like if I got into trouble, I'd call you. Okay. Yeah. I'd listen to you after the fact. And I would still go get you, even though I told you not to do the thing. I know. I'm pretty sure Diane took the board and properly got rid of it. So, one day later, Loser and I decided to go for a drive on the nearby dirt roads and I spotted a little cemetery. I felt something pulling me to it, so I turned to Loser and I tell him, let's go walk around that cemetery.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  As we were driving in, I saw a big white owl sitting in a tree, looking right at us. Which I thought was weird because it was bright daylight and I had never seen an owl like that. Anyway, we got out of the car and started walking through the cemetery and something was pulling me to go to a specific grave. Something wanted me to look at the tombstone. Oh, my gosh. This is reminding me of you in Marblehead at the cemetery when something was like calling you to that. One gravestone. When I looked at the gravestone, the name on it was, you guessed it, Rod. No way. I cannot remember the exact dates on the tombstone, but I clearly remember the math. Rod was twenty-two years old when he died. Whoa. What makes Jennifer Rod's chosen one?

• 40:54Speaker 01

  You know, like, it's not like she lived adjacent to the cemetery. Right. It's far, it seems like it's a drive away. Right. Like, he traveled to go see her and then drew her to where, interesting. There's some connection. Or maybe there's some connection. I mean. Wasn't it How to Hang a Witch that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, Jennifer's seventeen, so yeah, it could be, or is there some connection from a past life? Or, like, I'm curious what the year was. Yeah. I began tearing up, and we hung out for a bit, and I spoke to Rod, and I told him, thank you for talking to us, and that I was sorry he passed away so young, and I prayed that he was at peace now. So I wonder if the owl was a spirit of Rod or a sign he sent to us? Was Rod saying that I was his, or did something more sinister come through the board, saying I was theirs?

• 41:38Speaker 01

  Either way, I have no desire to mess with the Ouija board again, and I learned my lesson. And even if you think maybe you're talking to a safe spirit, a more dreadful one could be waiting in the wings for the perfect opportunity to strike. I have many more stories. You ladies are rocking it out, sage is life, and I'll see you on the other side, Jennifer. Dang, Jennifer. Jennifer and Rod sitting in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G. I do wonder, though, like, if there's been any development since that story has come in, or like, if she's kind of figured out more, or if she ever will figure out the connection. That's a good question. Would you go back to the cemetery, Jennifer? Go find Rod's tombstone and say hello? Maybe use ghost tube?

• 42:19Speaker 01

  Maybe she'll, like, her grandchild or something will suddenly be, like, talking about. Rod. His life as Rod, when he used to be Rod. You know, like, maybe this is, like, one of those things where she won't figure it out for years. See, this is why there's part of me that wishes that we had a format of our podcast, and I've brought this up before, where I wish we could just call people and be like, hey, we have some questions, we want to ask you more about your ghost story. Phone a friend. Yeah, phone a friend and ask more questions and find out what has happened since. Yeah, we got to figure out a way to do that. Or go pick up Jennifer in our car. Pick up Jennifer in our car and go to that grave site and visit Rod with Jennifer so that we can experience it firsthand. Two girls and ghosts on the road. Different version than tour. Would you do that? Yeah.

• 43:04Speaker 01

  Okay. I can't do tour. That almost killed me. You did have a lethal combination. First trimester of pregnancy. Do you have a timer on? I'm timing Noah's nap. Oh, I was like, are you timing us? How long it takes to get through an episode? No, I'm timing his nap so I can assist Brian with feeding him and putting him back down again. You have 20 more seconds before I'm done. Buzzer goes off.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  I have a story from our dear friend Litha. It's called Campfire Synchronicity Love Story. Hi, ladies. I told this story on Campfire last night and I promised that I would send it to you. My fiance, we call him Goose now, thanks to a certain TikTok. Yeah. My fiance and I, now husband, by the way, met in 2018 and we began dating in 2019. But the universe seemed to have been conspiring to get us together for much longer. This, I think Litha told us on Campfire Stories after we did the Invisible String Theory? Oh, okay, makes sense. He and I both found ourselves at a college in 2011, me starting my bachelor's late in my twenties, and him as a new hire for a separate department in his early 30s. We never met at this point, so nothing untoward happened, I promise.

• 44:17Speaker 01

  We never crossed paths, ever. I graduated, I left the college, but I stayed in the same area, always seeming to get jobs within a five-minute drive of that college campus. It was almost like a rubber band that the universe had placed around me. Invisible string. Yeah. And I fell so in love with the city, St. Petersburg, that I got a keychain made with the slogan, "You are my sunshine city." On the back of the keychain, I had an option to put coordinates, and I couldn't find the official coordinates online, so I chose a central spot of all of these jobs and a favorite place of mine. Then, in 2018, I got a job at my alma mater, and I debated leaving at one point for my master's program in Virginia. And I had a tour set up with the school and everything, but something in me told me that it just wasn't time, so I canceled those plans and I stayed working for the school.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  Just two months later, I ran into the most handsome man with stunning blue eyes and a deep voice that made me weak. I like the way you're reading this. Ooh la la. I've seen the thirst trap she posts on TikTok of Goose. He'd been working on that campus since 2011, and something clicked in my brain. Then, within three dates, I knew that I would marry him if he ever asked me. Within three weeks, we'd said, I love you, because we just couldn't hold it in. Every date turned into eight or 12 hour spans of just walking the city, talking, grabbing coffee, playing shovelboard, riding around on his motorcycle to the neighborhood markets for poke bowls.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  It was like we'd always been together, but maybe in another lifetime, just waiting to find each other in this one. And fun fact, our first date, he took me to trivia at a local bar and I won us points by knowing the answer to a science question. Hell, yeah. The answer, I told him, trust me, it's string theory, no lie.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  Wait.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  Nerd. But also, that's like so cute. The fact that it was about string theory. Right?

• 46:15Speaker 01

  In the keychain that I'd made with those coordinates, I later realized that this was the location of the parking lot where we shared our first kiss. I'd been carrying those coordinates around in my purse for years, not knowing what they'd come to mean to me. Another synchronicity, we now live in Virginia, near his family, an hour from the school that I almost applied to. So it was like, if she hadn't canceled the plan, she's, I bet she would have somehow. Met him at another. Yeah, because it was like, well, then you have to go to Virginia and we're gonna have you meet you over there. We're getting married this summer on the solstice and I promised to send pictures, but for now, I will leave you with this picture of the keychain. Also, to add even more adorableness to this, the number 19 is significant to us, I guess. We started dating in 2019, his birthday is the 19th, the 19th tarot card is the sun card,

• 46:59Speaker 01

  and my son, astrologically and natively, is at 19 degrees. He is quite literally the son of my life, and I met him in the sunshine city. I wanna vomit and like. Right? Melt at the same time. It's so cute. Stay spooky and sweet, you lovely ladies, follow your stars, the universe placed them there for a reason, and trust you are always on the right path. Lytha and Goose. I'm melting. Just even the fact that his nickname is Goose, it's like, they just feel written. They're written in the stars. They're, yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Their love is written in the stars. Oh, wow. That is so beautiful. Remember, we pulled up his TikTok on Campfire Stories?

• 47:40Speaker 01

  She said, he's a redhead, which means he also turned bright red when you shared his TikTok video on the live.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  And then when I asked him about it later, he joked and said, what can I say? I'm a star.

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Frickin' love that. It's so wild. Like, there's so many synchronicities and I'm not surprised at all. And I'm not surprised that Litha, like, fed into the feelings of like, I shouldn't do this or I should wait because I feel like she does trust her intuition a lot, which is, we shared a story, I don't know how many episodes ago on Encounters, sometime within the past few months, where Litha had written in and basically like, had unlocked her witchiness and is getting all these psychic messages, which she actually got a ton of messages the other day, like about me. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, whoa, that's pretty wild. I mean, even like, before tour, I feel like our first, like, real introduction to Litha was when Litha sent us tarot card readings via email before we went on tour.

• 48:34Speaker 01

  And my reading was like, the most like, dramatic, horrible reading. And she was like, I'm so sorry. You have to just say what's in the cards. And like, it was so accurate. And I hadn't talked about any of it on the podcast yet at that point. I forgot about that. Yeah. Interesting. But very beautiful. Litha and Goose and their love story, destined to be forever and always in every life. I had another story, but I feel like we should wrap up with this one because it was so beautiful. It's so sweet. Yeah. And it does make me want to share a new, I guess, desire I have. I think I've really, you know, I've shared a lot about how I really want to be abducted by aliens on this podcast. And you would love to run away with Bigfoot, Allah, Twilight, the scene where you get on Bigfoot's back and you're I'm his spider monkey.

• 49:19Speaker 01

  Whipped around through the forest. Where you been, Loca? I'm waiting for you. I like how you combined the two, Edward and Jacob. Jacob. We have a theme song. Yeah. But I think my new dream is to share a very passionate kiss with a ghost. I feel like the room calmed and quieted. That was kind of weird, wasn't it? Like, the universe is listening. It feels like we're suddenly in a vacuum. It does kind of feel like that. Someone's listening and someone's going to smooch you so hard. Smooch my bebe. Someone's waiting. The energy did shift in here just now.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  It did, right? This room got really quiet. Strange. Line up, boys and girls. I don't care. I just want to smooch from a ghost. Yeah. But it has to be passionate. Like, I want it, like, don't just come kiss me, court me a little bit first. Yeah. And I want to feel, like, there has to be passion there. It can't just be like a kiss. Yeah, not, not just like a random pack. Yeah, I want, like, if you're from a past life. And you can't be a red light district lip licker either. No, no icky gross stuff. No, no, no. No, unless you're an alien. That's fine. Oh, you'll take any alien. I'll take any alien, but when it comes to the paranormal romance that I'm envisioning, I would like. Just like a fiery, passionate.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Sweep you off your feet. It's like that woman who had sex with a ghost that was interviewed on BBC and her fiance had, like, seen them together. Yeah. There was some buildup with her in that. Yeah, I want. Spirit. I guess I don't want like a, like a long romance where we like go on dates and like you move in and stuff. I more want like. You're not trying to like marry the pirate ghost.

• 50:48Speaker 01

  I want a one night stand with that one lady. Right. I want a really passionate one night stand with a ghost. Yeah. All right. Well, it's in the universe and I think it's here, listening because. I think the universe is here. I think the universe is all entirely in this room, in this moment. In this moment. It's one of those things where like, I wish we could bottle up the energy and the sound of the room because like, obviously we're speaking into microphones. Right. There's room tone and background noise that gets removed in post, but I wish we could bottle up like this feeling and like what's happening. Cause something shifted. For every episode because there's, and people have to just trust us when we say it. I do think people get that though, because like when we talk about haunted things, when we start to feel it, people do feel it. So maybe if you're listening.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  And sometimes a lot of people feel it when we don't. Like, it'll be like, we will just be talking about something scary and then suddenly we'll get thirty emails about people specifically reacting to one story that like we didn't. Yeah. But everyone else is. Yeah. Let us know if you notice the, the shift. Maybe my romantic ghost is right here. We'll put some mistletoe up right above me. Kiss us under the, what, kiss us, don't kiss me. Kiss us. Kiss us. Are you gonna kiss me or what? Yeah, that's the question. I'll keep you all updated about my romantic tryst with a ghost. My rendezvous. Well, it is a romantic time of the year. Yeah. And what's more romantic than sharing ghost stories? Good question.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  That is our love language. And if you love us, you will let us know what hauntings have happened to you. Even if you don't love us, send us your ghost stories. Even if you just slightly like us, or even if you dislike us. But you're still listening, because like, you hate listen. I don't know, whatever. Love a hate listen. Still counts in the analytics, whatever. Whatever, you do you. And you email us, please. Two girls, one ghost, podcast at gmail dot com. Please join us on YouTube and watch if you want. We have Patreon. If you want to find out some juicy secrets I'm gonna share or some stuff, maybe. You will. I will make you. Chris is gonna like handcuff me. I feel like, because I feel like you say this a lot sometimes, and then in the moment you get spooked. I divulge way more on Patreon. You do. You share a lot. Your parents can never join Patreon. Let's just say that. No.

• 52:54Speaker 01

  They don't listen, so it's okay. Thank you to Jamie, who edits our podcast. And thank you to all of you. We love you. Thanks for listening. And we will. See you on the other side.