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CHAPTERS
00:00:00 THIS CAR POD!
00:00:49 Nick's Industry Predictions
00:02:01 What Was Your Favorite Vehicle You Owned?
00:11:44 How Sentimental Are You With Your Cars?
00:21:45 Have You Heard of The Rare Shades Festival?
00:29:55 Which States Have The Best and Worst Driving Scenery?
00:33:57 Have You Heard Of the Audi A1 Clubsport Quattro?
00:36:33 Kennan Bought A TIP
00:39:46 Would Kennan Sell His E39 M5 for a Better One?
00:41:54 Is Anyone Else Excited About Doug's 993 Turbo?
00:46:40 If You Financed Your Cars What Would You Get?
00:50:36 Will You Get a 550 or 575?
00:52:59 Do Door Dings And Rock Chips Bother You?
00:55:59 Is There A lot NSFW Footage Of Nick?
00:59:37 How Crazy Is Nick In Real Life?
01:02:21 What Cars Do You Still Want?
01:11:13 Time For Gifts
01:18:20 Parting Thoughts
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1:04 Doug DeMuro? Hello and welcome to This Car Pod. I'm Kenan.
1:08 Speaker 03 I'm Nick.
1:09 Doug DeMuro? And this is a special Christmas edition of This Car Pod, recorded weeks ago because we are lazy and we don't want to record during the holidays. I'm in Ohio currently. Kenan's in Ohio, Nick is god knows where. Anyway, this special Christmas edition, ho, ho, ho, by the way. This special edition, all we're doing is answering previous questions that you've asked us before that we didn't get to. Because we can't, we're not filming this recently, so we can't do the news.
1:38 Speaker 03 You know, I got some future predictions for the news if we did want to.
1:41 Doug DeMuro? Okay.
1:42 Speaker 03 You know, some things, some industry predictions. I think that's a good idea.
1:45 Doug DeMuro? All right, why don't you start, let's start there and then we'll move on into the questions that we've prepared.
1:50 Speaker 03 Jaguar is making a New Year's resolution.
1:52 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:53 Speaker 03 To be back on cars.
1:54 Doug DeMuro? Uh huh.
1:54 Speaker 03 They're going to start making them, designing them.
1:56 Doug DeMuro? Yep.
1:57 Speaker 03 There will be multiple Stellantis recalls because they're Stellantis.
2:00 Doug DeMuro? Uh huh.
2:02 Speaker 03 Another EV will get killed. Another V8 will come back. I think it's pretty predictable. If you watch these episodes, you kind of know where the world's going.
2:09 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, that's true.
2:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:11 Doug DeMuro? Okay, anyway, thank you so much, Nick. I appreciate that. Nick, what do you think about Slate? Oh, yeah.
2:18 Speaker 03 Uh, this is where my populist political beliefs will come out.
2:22 Doug DeMuro? Oh.
2:22 Speaker 03 Because it's affiliated with Bezos, I'm kind of off it.
2:26 Doug DeMuro? You know, there are people out there who think-
2:27 Speaker 03 I know, he's an investor, whatever. I just, I'm, if I can avoid Amazon, I do.
2:32 Doug DeMuro? Wow, so, oh, wow. Wow, so you just don't use Prime? Nick's getting into politics right here in minute two.
2:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
2:38 Doug DeMuro? All right, uh, let's, we're gonna do questions. You guys have always been lovely and asked us questions. And if you want to ask us questions for the next pod, which we're gonna record topically, you go to carsandbids.com, you click on the community tab, there's a post there that says, "Ask us questions", and then you ask us questions. This week, we've gone through weeks of old questions, and I've picked the best ones we didn't answer before, okay? Are you guys ready? I've got 20 some, we'll probably only get to half of them.
3:01 Speaker 03 I'm excited for this.
3:02 Doug DeMuro? Okay, first question from Doug's Not A Porsche Guy, which by the way is true. Right, he's a Mercedes guy, get it right. No, I have no affiliation.
3:09 Speaker 03 Kia Stinger GT guy.
3:10 Doug DeMuro? I did love that car. Doug and friends, you guys are the friends. Yeah.
3:14 Speaker 03 What's up?
3:15 Doug DeMuro? Santa.
3:16 Speaker 03 Thank you.
3:16 Doug DeMuro? Thank you, Santa.
3:17 Speaker 03 Big Nick.
3:17 Doug DeMuro? Big Nick energy. Out of all the vehicles you've owned, what was your favorite and why?
3:25 Doug DeMuro? Hmm, well. Nick?
3:27 Speaker 03 I think we all know Kennon, right?
3:29 Doug DeMuro? Kennon's is his E39M5.
3:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:32 Doug DeMuro? Yep, and it will, yes, it was. Kennon likes his E39, I don't know if we've ever made this point on the pod before, but Kennon likes his E39M5. I don't think I've ever mentioned that, so yes, I really enjoy my early 2000s. If you don't know, he's got a silver, titanium silver. Yep. It's a 2002. Black sport interior.
3:50 Speaker 03 Is that the one with the V8?
3:51 Doug DeMuro? That's the V8 one.
3:52 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
3:52 Doug DeMuro? Yes, it is. Yes, it is, Nick. Nick, you've had, how many cars have you had, do you think?
3:57 Speaker 03 I've lost count, but enough.
3:59 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
3:59 Speaker 03 I don't know, it's, that's a really hard question. They're all like great for different purposes. I think if, I think about which one I like loved the most, you know, like just has that like weird feeling. I, it's gotta be a B7 Audi. I'd say the RS4 was the best one, but like, B7s are really what got me like just overboard on cars. So probably the S4 that I had, Olin's, I had a big brake kit, I tracked it.
4:23 Doug DeMuro? Wobble ball.
4:23 Speaker 03 We had a lot of fun with that car.
4:24 Doug DeMuro? Okay, couple things. First off, there's- Rose colored glasses going on here. Yep, absolutely.
4:29 Speaker 03 Ginger.
4:29 Doug DeMuro? Wait, so hold on a minute. So you're the Borrego. You loved your.
4:33 Speaker 03 I did. Your Mercy Alago stick. The Borrego is at the XPA was also.
4:37 Doug DeMuro? The XPA, yeah.
4:38 Speaker 03 Through my head, but I think.
4:39 Doug DeMuro? Quattro World forums are paying him to be here today and he had to disclose that. Shout out to Four Rings Racers and all that stuff. Really? So you did, I mean, Nick.
4:48 Speaker 03 I've sold five cars on the site now, by the way.
4:51 Doug DeMuro? Pull up a B7. I sold like nine.
4:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
4:54 Doug DeMuro? Pull up a B7. No, no, on the site. Go back to the site. Pull up a B7. Let's let Nick go down memory lane.
4:59 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, I think the RS4 was the better car, but my S4 I just loved.
5:04 Doug DeMuro? There you go.
5:04 Speaker 03 A4S line. That's fine.
5:06 Doug DeMuro? That's the one. That's the one. The A4, this is basically what he's talking about. A4S line. Yeah, look at that. It was a great interior.
5:12 Speaker 03 I've considered, so I've had the A4, S4 and RS4. I haven't done a cab yet, a convertible. And I haven't done an Avant yet. So there may be, I'm just for sure, I'm putting it out there that if a fourth one comes around that is too good to say no to, I wouldn't say no to it.
5:29 Doug DeMuro? Dude's a B7 man. He, yeah.
5:31 Speaker 03 A B7 RS4, I'm legitimately like waiting until they're 25 years old to import one.
5:36 Doug DeMuro? A wagon.
5:36 Speaker 03 Yeah. I've thought about trying to convert one, but it's, it's a lot of work.
5:40 Doug DeMuro? What else we got here that you would have done the B7 front?
5:43 Speaker 03 Anything in sprint blue.
5:45 Doug DeMuro? You had a B7 S4, not a B6?
5:47 Speaker 03 They were all B7s.
5:49 Doug DeMuro? I've always preferred the B6. Did you not?
5:51 Speaker 03 No. Uh-uh.
5:53 Doug DeMuro? You didn't like those wheels?
5:54 Speaker 03 No. It was fine, but the B7 was everything but better. It's like the RRC to the P38. It's everything just a little bit better.
6:01 Doug DeMuro? I'm going to tell you right now, nobody thinks that. I think it. Nobody.
6:05 Speaker 03 All of my P38 friends think it.
6:07 Doug DeMuro? The only people who think the P38 was an improvement over the RRC are on the P38 Facebook group.
6:11 Speaker 03 We'll go ask the RRC guys.
6:12 Doug DeMuro? Talking about how undervalued. I had an RRC. Oh, getting rust repair right now because this car was made poorly. I wish I had a P38.
6:19 Speaker 03 That's what they're all saying.
6:20 Doug DeMuro? No one with a Range Rover Classic wishes they had a P38. They have enough problems and their car is better looking and simpler.
6:26 Speaker 03 They have enough problems because it was V1 of V2.0 of God's masterpiece.
6:30 Doug DeMuro? V2 was much worse. Does it ever, do you ever like the fact that Land Rover couldn't, you know how BMWs are all E28, E39, E46? Land Rover went through so many BS owners at naming conventions that it was classic, P38, L322. Makes no sense.
6:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, none at all.
6:47 Doug DeMuro? Actually no sense.
6:48 Speaker 03 They truly are internal codes. They're not designed to know.
6:51 Doug DeMuro? Disaster.
6:53 Speaker 03 So yeah, that's my final answer. I'm locking in the B7. I varied, even the front wheel drive CVT. I enjoyed that car.
7:01 Doug DeMuro? Drive CVT, right?
7:02 Speaker 03 With that six LEDs and a ton of great mods.
7:04 Speaker 04 Sorry, SLR, move over, mercy. Bye bye, R8. It's the
7:08 Doug DeMuro? How can you say that?
7:09 Speaker 03 Look at that, look at that RS4, the wide fender.
7:12 Doug DeMuro? I agree.
7:13 Speaker 03 Those are perfect wheels. They pretty much invented honeycomb mesh, like that was a new thing in that era.
7:18 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
7:19 Speaker 03 I mean, just they killed it.
7:20 Doug DeMuro? But how can you say that?
7:21 Speaker 03 This is the E39 M5 of Audis.
7:23 Doug DeMuro? No, totally.
7:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, definitely.
7:25 Doug DeMuro? But how can you say this? You had a stick mercy. He doesn't have enough time for his stick mercy. You know, I'll tell you this, my first car was a 1996 Volvo 850 Turbo. Pull up an 850 Turbo.
7:35 Speaker 03 Yeah, the boxy one.
7:37 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
7:37 Speaker 03 And Five cylinder, wasn't it?
7:39 Doug DeMuro? Turbo five.
7:39 Speaker 03 Hell, yeah.
7:40 Doug DeMuro? Yeah. Turbo five and it looked a lot like that. That's an R, but it has, does not have R wheels. It has turbo wheels. That was how my car looked. It was white.
7:49 Doug DeMuro? And
7:50 Speaker 03 Is that the car you like best?
7:51 Doug DeMuro? Like you, I, for years after getting rid of it, I ideal, oh, I miss 850 Turbo, I miss 850 Turbo. Years later, I drove one again and needless to say, haven't missed it since.
8:03 Speaker 04 The clothes of the boy do not fit the man.
8:05 Doug DeMuro? And he would discover that if he got back into a B7.
8:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, I wonder, is it?
8:09 Speaker 03 I owned a B7 like three years ago.
8:11 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, but it was RS4. If you got back into the B7 front track that you just espoused, I have a suspicion it wouldn't last.
8:21 Speaker 03 Perhaps. But I, I feel like it's a cheat to just say my fastest car or my most expensive car. I'm going with the car that I had the deepest emotional bond with, like Kenan and his E39. I was Mr. B7. I lived it and breathed it. It was a seminal point of my childhood and adulthood.
8:38 Doug DeMuro? Yeah. So that, so it's, it's, it's got, it's got history to you personally. Uh, personally, my favorite car I've ever owned is really hard, you know? Like them all equally, et cetera, et cetera, like, et cetera, whatever. Uh, I've had thirty-eight cars.
8:52 Speaker 03 Jeez.
8:53 Doug DeMuro? You probably had thirty-eight cars.
8:54 Speaker 03 Hmm, if I count diecast. I bet I'm at like twenty.
8:58 Doug DeMuro? I'm in the hundreds. But you're, you're moving a lot faster than me.
9:01 Speaker 03 It's picking up.
9:01 Doug DeMuro? In five years, you're definitely gonna be more than me.
9:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:04 Doug DeMuro? You're having like six cars a year. It's really a violation of speed. It's getting close to delay line.
9:08 Speaker 03 I'm going to Phoenix next week and I've already updated my Facebook Marketplace to target Hoopie's in that area, so.
9:14 Doug DeMuro? Yes, if a Ford Lightning, if you got a Ford Lightning you're trying to offload this Christmas in Scottsdale, in Mesa.
9:20 Speaker 03 Yes.
9:20 Doug DeMuro? Put it on, put it on Facebook right now, nickel over pay.
9:23 Speaker 03 There's a lot of good user.
9:24 Doug DeMuro? You got a California guy coming in.
9:28 Doug DeMuro? Uh, but I think my favorite is probably the Countach, uh, which I is currently owning and just love dearly. Dearly, dearly, dearly.
9:34 Speaker 03 That's what.
9:35 Doug DeMuro? I drive that car and I'm so excited every time I'm in it. That's what I was predicting you were going to say. It's not the most usable. Uh, if, if I only look at cars that I have gotten rid of, uh, that two thousand one E fifty-five. Pull up one of those. I just wanna look at it.
9:48 Speaker 03 Wow.
9:49 Doug DeMuro? The two thousand one E fifty-five is my.
9:51 Speaker 03 That's like your B seven.
9:52 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
9:53 Speaker 03 It's not that great by today's standards.
9:55 Doug DeMuro? Well, the thing that made it so great was that it was super reliable. It was pretty fast, but it was also roomy and reliable and comfortable. And at the time, when I owned it, I was like twenty-five. I didn't need any of that stuff. But in the years since then, I've realized like, actually, this would be great. And you know how you have that focus as like a third car?
10:12 Speaker 03 Yep.
10:12 Doug DeMuro? You just sort of use one guess, whatever. I wanna get one of these for that.
10:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, a little.
10:16 Doug DeMuro? Just reliable, yeah, have, you don't have to treat incredibly nicely. That's, that's.
10:22 Speaker 03 This is doable, you know, it's a very achievable.
10:24 Doug DeMuro? Well, I want a wagon, which is a little bit.
10:27 Speaker 03 That makes it harder.
10:28 Doug DeMuro? That's a little bit harder. A little bit more.
10:29 Speaker 03 Then you'll be precious about loaning it out though, cause that's legitimately cool.
10:33 Doug DeMuro? It is a ninety-nine and, and I only, I only do facelift cars. Well, we haven't had one yet. No, no one has. Uh, they're, they're, they're uncommon, but I'm, uh, starting the procedure of looking for one.
10:43 Speaker 03 Wow.
10:43 Doug DeMuro? But I do like my.
10:44 Speaker 03 Easter egg there.
10:45 Doug DeMuro? You got me back into cars.
10:46 Speaker 03 Good.
10:47 Doug DeMuro? You got me deep back on cars. I don't know if by the.
10:49 Speaker 03 You got me off cars.
10:52 Speaker 03 Foisting this Arnage onto me, the multiple. You guys are just feeding me bad ideas.
10:58 Doug DeMuro? By the time this pod airs, I'm not sure if this will be, if I'll have announced this yet, but I really want an E30 M3 Sport Evo and I really want a 210 E55 wagon. And I am ready, I think, to buy either one.
11:09 Speaker 03 Can't wait to hear about this for months after you've already bought one.
11:11 Doug DeMuro? You, you started this.
11:13 Speaker 03 Cool.
11:14 Doug DeMuro? I was off cars.
11:15 Speaker 03 I'm here for an M3.
11:15 Doug DeMuro? For three years, I didn't buy a car. And then you showed up and you were like, I'm having all this fun. And then, and then you did dumb stuff and got out of it okay financially.
11:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
11:25 Doug DeMuro? And I'm like, well, I can do dumb stuff and get out of it. Look at all these entries. You see these? Look at that. Take this car, this is what I want. I want this car, but five more horsepower for 150,000 more dollars.
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12:08 Doug DeMuro? Completely rational. Sounds great. Makes good sense. So anyway, I'm, I'm, I'm interested. Uh, okay. Should we do our next question? I'm so excited to get Kenan's view on, oh, here's a great one.
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13:14 Doug DeMuro? From Atticus Ribble, this is actually on the same vein of what we were just talking about.
13:18 Speaker 04 Okay.
13:19 Doug DeMuro? Dear Doug and friends, again, you're the friends.
13:21 Speaker 04 Oh.
13:22 Doug DeMuro? How sentimental about previous cars are you? As someone in the Kennon camp of car maintenance, I wonder how much emotional weight you carry in cars. Kennon, how sentimental about previous cars are you?
13:34 Speaker 04 Extremely. I'm a very emotional person, so there are some cars for which my hatred knows no bounds that I've owned.
13:42 Doug DeMuro? There's a sentimentality to that.
13:44 Speaker 04 But there is a sentimentality, yeah, there is. I feel strongly and very emotionally about all of my cars. But yes, sentimentality drives a lot of, the reason that I, the cars that I want, the cars that I keep. There's a lot, I'm very emotional about my things, watches too, you know, my things, I like my things.
13:58 Doug DeMuro? And by the way, we're in the middle of watch season, folks.
14:01 Speaker 04 Oh, early days still.
14:03 Doug DeMuro? This is watch season.
14:05 Speaker 04 Yes, I have, yes, I, being from Ohio, in the wintertime, you put away the cars and you can't use them. So what do I do in that, I'd fill that time by researching watches.
14:13 Doug DeMuro? We bring out the timepieces.
14:14 Speaker 04 That's right.
14:14 Speaker 03 You know what, you see this, this thing?
14:16 Speaker 04 That is really cool.
14:18 Speaker 03 It's an SLR edition watch, so I'm not on cars, I'm on car watches.
14:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, see, Nick gets it.
14:24 Speaker 03 So I took it in to get the battery replaced and the guy's like, sir, there's, there's no battery in this. It's an automatic.
14:32 Speaker 03 And so he's like, you just need to like shake your wrist more and I left feeling like an idiot.
14:36 Speaker 04 Well.
14:37 Doug DeMuro? It's like pulling up to the gas pump.
14:38 Speaker 03 I got some hard work to do during watch season here.
14:41 Doug DeMuro? Okay, when you say that you're sentimental about cars, what do you mean? Like you, you look at your old cars, you look up their Vins, you, you think about them, you have glossies on their, on your wall, above your bed?
14:50 Speaker 04 I do think about them, I have mementos from them, so like I have like from my, my first car, my 525, I still have the window sticker. And I still look back at pictures of that car, I really loved that car, was, really, really loved it.
15:01 Doug DeMuro? It was 190 horsepower.
15:03 Speaker 04 It was, but it was my first, it was a great first car and it was a manual and it was blue and I just really loved that car. But yeah, I look back fondly on a lot of the great memories I've made with all of them. That's the most important aspect of owning any of these cars to me. It's just like the E39, it's like, the reason I feel so sentimental about that is I closed the door and I'm right back to where I was when I was dreaming about owning that car as a kid and now I have one. And so, and it just, that hasn't faded for me and the sentimentality is what drives that.
15:28 Speaker 03 Have you ever thought to be a little armchair psychologist here that you get too attached? You know, like maybe it causes you to over invest in maintenance or make sort of illogical decisions?
15:39 Speaker 04 Well. Well, yes, love is not rational.
15:42 Doug DeMuro? Oh. I would argue that it's important to love things that can love you back, like how I love Nick.
15:48 Speaker 04 Yes, but the M5 provides me with so much joy every time I use it that.
15:52 Doug DeMuro? It does love you back.
15:53 Speaker 04 In a way, it provides me what I'm looking for from an automobile. So, yeah, it gives me what I want. Then, yes, it is very expensive and things, but I just want it to always function and want it to be around for as long as I can drive the car.
16:04 Doug DeMuro? So, no surprise, the person who spends so much money on the car is invested, sentimentally and emotionally invested in the car.
16:10 Speaker 03 Isn't that called commitment bias?
16:13 Doug DeMuro? I'm not sure.
16:15 Speaker 03 It's more of a sunk cost fallacy, actually.
16:17 Doug DeMuro? No.
16:17 Speaker 04 No, it's not. That's so fallacy.
16:19 Speaker 03 Well, I mean, you sunk a lot of money into it, so therefore you feel like, oh, I gotta like love the car.
16:23 Doug DeMuro? No, but he actually loves it.
16:25 Speaker 04 I'm in so deep, I might as well keep going. That would be sunk.
16:27 Doug DeMuro? You know what? You can tell sometimes when you're with people and there's some stuff. No, this is true love.
16:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:32 Doug DeMuro? He truly loves. It's not like one of those situations where you know the couple and you want to say something to the guy, like, you should get out of this, or to the woman, like, I don't think so. To this, this is a merger of equals.
16:42 Speaker 03 That's my favorite part of the holidays, is catching like couples that are normally very harmonious, just like quietly bickering, you know? You dog, get the dogs in the garage, you know, like, and you're like, oh my gosh, they're gonna murder each other when we leave. But like, we're just getting like the quick, the little brown M and M, like the first canary in the coal mine before they just, you know, kind of like an E39 M5 last summer.
17:05 Doug DeMuro? This is hitting home. Nick's family in Ohio takes us back to that Panera Bread.
17:09 Speaker 03 Not even my family, but just.
17:11 Doug DeMuro? Nick, do you get sentimentally attached to your cars? Do you think about the Money Shift TTRS?
17:18 Speaker 03 No. Um, I think the velocity at which I've been turning over cars, I think I'm probably, if anything, over or too unsentimental towards the cars. Um, but I have fond memories of them, and then I have recreated the P38 experience. I have, uh, thought about getting another Celine XB8. So I'd say like, it's a balancing act.
17:38 Doug DeMuro? But do you, specifically the ones that you have, do you ever mourn their loss? Do you think about them? Do you have keepsakes?
17:44 Speaker 03 Funny enough, the Mercy, so there's been a few cars like that B7 S4. I tried to sell it once, so then I like. Backed out, I'm like, I can't sell it. I just love this car too much. I regretted doing that. And then like a year later, I sold it for way less money. So now I've kind of like realized, once I get the itch to sell a car, it's time.
18:00 Doug DeMuro? Right.
18:00 Speaker 03 And waiting is only worse for me. So I've, I've sort of learned to just listen to that. Like the Mercy, I still loved that car, but I was also like, it's time. And I know it's time. And it's time for something new. And if I hold off now, I'll wait six to 12 months, I'll probably get, you know, it, it just like, all the signs are pointing it to, it's time to let go.
18:18 Doug DeMuro? So when you let go, you let go.
18:19 Speaker 03 Uh, yeah. Now I've like totally let go. I'm still in the owners groups and like poking around a little bit.
18:24 Doug DeMuro? But you don't have emotional attachment.
18:25 Speaker 03 I don't have a year to get back into Mercy right now.
18:27 Doug DeMuro? Uh, okay. The, the question was, how sentimental about previous cars are you? My answer is literally zero.
18:33 Speaker 04 Yep. I knew that about you. Yeah.
18:35 Doug DeMuro? Which is literally zero.
18:37 Speaker 03 You went trouble letting go of your Defender 90. I feel you were sentimentally attached.
18:41 Speaker 04 No, he didn't.
18:42 Doug DeMuro? Nope.
18:42 Speaker 04 He was, all of us, many, many other people in his life were attached to that car.
18:47 Speaker 03 All my friends, we spent months trying to talk you into like, helping you talk off the ledge between that and the G Cab. I feel like.
18:53 Doug DeMuro? I, I definitely am attached to the G Cab, which I currently own. I am, have no attachment to the yellow car. I sold it to a guy in upstate New York.
19:00 Speaker 03 Don't you famously look up the Carfax of all your vehicles?
19:03 Doug DeMuro? I Carfax them once a year.
19:04 Speaker 03 That's a little stalkerish, you know?
19:05 Doug DeMuro? No, no, I don't.
19:06 Speaker 03 That's like, oh yeah, I look up my high school girlfriend on Facebook once a month, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm over it.
19:10 Doug DeMuro? It depends on the purpose. I mean, like I look up some people from high school just to make sure that I'm living better than them. You know what I'm saying?
19:18 Speaker 04 Mick understands. Biggest house in his neighborhood and a Lambo.
19:23 Doug DeMuro? But, right. He's got his profile picture, Nick, in a Lambo and a race suit.
19:29 Speaker 03 Actually, I'm, I'm rocking the QP5 on Facebook. Thank you. I'm humble.
19:32 Doug DeMuro? But, um, I do Carfax them. I'm always curious to see where they went, but I never like yearn. There is not an ounce of me that wants any of those cars back. I never want to hear from the people who have them. I do not care if they get in accidents and totaled and destroyed, which some of them have. I don't care if they, if they kill people in Florida, as one of them did. None of it matters to me.
19:54 Speaker 04 But there are experiences you would like to repeat, the W210 being a good.
19:58 Doug DeMuro? But to me, that was a thing. It was a thing of metal and glass and bolts. Like, I can get another thing like that. And honestly, that car now has 150,000 miles. I don't want that thing back. I want a different thing that probably provides me with a sort of similar. Do you know what I mean?
20:10 Speaker 04 I know.
20:10 Doug DeMuro? Certainly the experiences in some of the cars, I enjoy the memories, this one being the best example of that. But like, I'm not trying to buy one of these back. And if I was, I would, you know, like, anybody who's, oh, I miss this car. Well, why don't you get one? I don't miss it that much. It's not like any of these cars I can't buy back. I know some people who are in that situation where they sold the car and then the values took off and they can't afford. Like, I can get a W210. It's a $14,000 car.
20:35 Speaker 04 Right.
20:35 Doug DeMuro? But like, if I really missed it, I would, but I don't.
20:37 Speaker 03 You know, the cars I yearn to get back are ones that I never owned, but I had like a exposure to it. So, examples. My dad's friend had a 1967 GT500KR Mustang.
20:49 Doug DeMuro? Oh, wow.
20:49 Speaker 03 That he let me drive in high school and do a burnout. And so I always, whenever I see a green with white stripe GT500KR, I look at the Carfax and figure out, okay, was this in Columbus? And if so, maybe it's the one and I should buy it. My grandpa had an E-Type Jaguar.
21:01 Doug DeMuro? I'm gonna stop you right there. Ken, do you want to ask him about it?
21:04 Speaker 04 Uh, well, Columbus?
21:07 Doug DeMuro? How do you look at the Carfax?
21:08 Speaker 03 If you don't. Well, not a Carfax, but you can look at the ownership history and stuff like that.
21:12 Doug DeMuro? You get a Marty report.
21:12 Speaker 03 You can kind of figure it out.
21:13 Speaker 04 Marty.
21:14 Speaker 03 Not Carfax, but usually it's like some level of owner documentation still in there.
21:19 Speaker 04 You post on the forum every couple of years.
21:21 Doug DeMuro? When someone comes up for sale, you see, was this the one?
21:23 Speaker 03 The write-up on the listings.
21:24 Doug DeMuro? Would you buy such a car?
21:25 Speaker 03 I don't. Those in particular are very expensive, but my grandpa's E-Type, same thing. If that came around and it could be buyable for the right price, I'd be like, oh, sentimentally.
21:34 Doug DeMuro? Anytime anyone does that, I always wonder, like, after the first couple of years, are you just like, well?
21:39 Speaker 04 I don't even think it's, my first couple of weeks.
21:42 Doug DeMuro? Cause you got grandpa's E-Type, and it's like, okay, we got grandpa's E-Type, but at some point, you have a vehicle in your garage that you don't use much. And grandpa sat in it 45 years ago, but like, well. I mean, I'm not sentimental about cars or property or anything like that. I don't get into that kind of stuff that much. But I guess there are some people who would, who would not feel that way. But to me, it's like, when you're done with it, you move it on and you don't think about it again, and you hope never to hear from the guy who bought it. Now, the guy who bought this, which is the car that I was certainly had the most personal attachment to, he does send me that message every so often. I like to hear what's going on with it. But I'm not, I don't look at the pictures and think, oh.
22:19 Speaker 04 My Ferrari, the guy who bought my Ferrari sends me a note every now and again to tell me that the car's been perfectly reliable for me. He hasn't had an issue. I'm like, every time, but nonetheless.
22:28 Speaker 03 My Arnage guy messaged me.
22:30 Speaker 04 It was the same guy, right?
22:31 Speaker 03 No, different guy. The guy bid on mine, but did not win it.
22:34 Speaker 04 Oh.
22:35 Speaker 03 And he said the battery was dead because the alarm went off the entire way from San Diego to Tennessee.
22:41 Speaker 03 But he's like, I figured out how to turn the alarm off, and it's great. This thing is so fast and fun.
22:46 Doug DeMuro? Oh, my god.
22:48 Speaker 03 Car shipper's gonna ship, you know?
22:50 Doug DeMuro? Yup.
22:51 Speaker 03 All they said is they get it from point A to point B. They didn't say they turn off the alarm.
22:56 Doug DeMuro? Okay, next question. The dude drove it with the alarm going to hold?
23:00 Speaker 03 I guess. I mean, presumably the battery died somewhere in Texas.
23:04 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, it killed the battery.
23:05 Speaker 04 Hey, man, when we're hauling across the country, can't hear it.
23:07 Doug DeMuro? The reason was you had a, you had a, there's like an alarm sensor in it or something?
23:11 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think like a tow sensor, so it was out of tilt and that was enough, but.
23:14 Doug DeMuro? Yeah. Okay, next question. This one is from Sebway, and I want you both to weigh in on this, even though it's for me. I want to hear your takes before I provide my monstrously outsized, ridiculous outburst take. From Sebway, question for Doug, have you heard of the Rare Shades Festival?
23:32 Speaker 03 No.
23:32 Doug DeMuro? It's a festival dedicated to Porsche cars in different colors from the paint to sample program.
23:36 Speaker 04 Oh, man. No.
23:38 Doug DeMuro? My question is, how much would they have to pay you to attend, or will he attend next year's event now that he's officially a Porsche guy?
23:43 Speaker 04 Let me do math.
23:45 Doug DeMuro? Will I attend?
23:46 Speaker 04 You carry the one.
23:49 Doug DeMuro? Under absolutely no circumstances ever. How about the question is how much do they have to pay me? I would probably do it for 100 grand post. 100 grand post? You wouldn't do it for 50 grand post? Where is it? Is it in LA, you think? If it's in LA for 50 grand post and I can go up and go back the same day, I would talk about it. What's it called? Rare Shades Festival. If it's in the Bay, 100 is my number, seriously. Nick, tell me your thoughts on the Rare Shades Festival.
24:17 Speaker 03 Would I go or would you be convinced?
24:20 Doug DeMuro? No, what do you think about people meeting up to show off the colors of their Porsches?
24:23 Speaker 03 I mean, it is great in that it gets all of those people off the road and away from me at one time. That Cars and Coffee in that area, in that vicinity, that week will be amazing. Cause like all of those people will just be elsewhere.
24:36 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, they're elsewhere. They don't have to come to our Cars and Coffee.
24:38 Speaker 03 It's at a Ritz Carlton too. This is a.
24:40 Doug DeMuro? A first in Canada.
24:41 Speaker 03 As you would say, it's like they're making fun of their own customers, you know?
24:45 Doug DeMuro? Oh, man. What I've discovered is that there is a large contingent of Porsche enthusiasts who care more about their spec than the driving experience of their car. And I think it's probably the single most pathetic thing that goes on in the automotive industry today.
25:02 Speaker 03 I do think it's actually, for those people though, that'll be really fun. I do think buying the car in the right color is incredibly important. So I can agree with a lot of it. I think the problem is that they just take it a little too far to your point.
25:15 Doug DeMuro? They buy the car and only want to talk about the color.
25:17 Speaker 03 Right, right.
25:18 Doug DeMuro? Like we have that mutual friend on Instagram who did like a, like a, like a Oscar thank you, like an Oscars Academy Awards thank you message to his dealer. I want to thank Porsche of whatever for, for the opportunity to buy this paint to sample car. It was like, this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in my entire life. And the fact that they then don't drive the cars, like prior, the, the driving experience is the, is the thing.
25:42 Speaker 03 Yep.
25:42 Doug DeMuro? The, the cool color is cool. And I'm, I'm into the people who buy it for the driving experience and then also get some weird color and that's cool. I'm into that. But the people who attend these things, zero mile, trailer to the thing, factory recommissioned because they wanted this. F that.
25:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:56 Doug DeMuro? That is sad.
25:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, I agree. I, I, I remember earlier, it was earlier this year, seeing a GT3 RS, brand new one. You know, cars designed to be driven hard on the track, like really take the abuse.
26:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:08 Speaker 04 And it was a PTS color of some kind. Uh, and this guy just got out of it and immediately started drying it off because it had been slightly sprinkled on with rain. You're missing the point.
26:17 Speaker 03 That happened at Cars and Coffee with a certain mutual friend who was a little worried about some dew on their spoiler this week.
26:22 Speaker 04 Yes, on the, yeah, Gary, his F355 was a little weird.
26:26 Doug DeMuro? I just, I just don't get into any sort of behavior. Uh, to me, a car is about the drive.
26:33 Speaker 03 Yep.
26:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:34 Doug DeMuro? And, and the, the, the thing, thing about the Rare Shades thing is it is literally the opposite of that. It's like celebrating, you're celebrating like the way, the, the way it's optioned in the spec. Nice spec, nice spec, every, oh my God, that spec is so nice. And I just think that is so far from the intent. And I, those people want to do that, that's fine, but I just would prefer they not come to my events or talk to me. Dude, the biggest problem since getting the arena, the, since the turbo, L will come up to me now.
27:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:01 Doug DeMuro? Oh, man, I had a this, I got a this, I got it. And it's in flesh and blue and orange and it, I, I don't know what that is and I don't care. Like, I truly don't care. I got one with no sunroof. It was only no sunroof for six months in 87. Literally, I'm not one of you. I joke about not being a Porsche guy, but like, I don't, I can't handle those, like mentally, I can't handle those conversations. Like, don't come at me with that.
27:25 Speaker 03 You, uh, you would appreciate, so I broke my other MacBook and I took it in for a repair. And the guy recognized me as Doug's friend.
27:32 Doug DeMuro? No way.
27:33 Speaker 03 Uh, but he wasn't authorized to help me. So he just chatted with me for like 20 minutes while I was waiting for my actual appointment. But it was like, oh boy, I hope he's not a PTS kind of guy. But he was actually a cool enthusiast, but you know, sometimes you get trapped in those conversations where you're like, I literally can't leave, so.
27:49 Speaker 04 But again, it, it may, I understand why, because the cars are so ubiquitous, because they're master's cars, the Porsche just pumped out.
27:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
27:57 Speaker 04 And so if you want to distinguish your 87 Carrera, like the different color is a big deal. So I get that, but I agree.
28:04 Doug DeMuro? The story that is untold about the.
28:06 Speaker 03 Drive very well.
28:06 Doug DeMuro? The story that's untold about that exact thing is that like ultimately these cars are not that special. They're special almost entirely because of the way they drive. And but if you're not capable of exploiting that, then you go down the, oh wow, it has a cool spec kind of thing.
28:22 Speaker 03 Bonus question related to this. What festival, if it was incredibly tailored to a very specific niche, would you go? I would do the
28:30 Doug DeMuro? That's a good question.
28:31 Speaker 03 The Rare Colors Festival or whatever for B7R's Force. There are four Suzuka gray ones on the planet. One has been totaled. If all four showed up, I would be there. I would pay a hundred grand to attend.
28:42 Doug DeMuro? Suzuka gray? It wasn't the most common color?
28:44 Speaker 03 It's like a slightly off-white.
28:47 Speaker 03 It's white with like a touch of gray, but it's perfect.
28:49 Doug DeMuro? Nick, you're sitting here complaining about
28:51 Speaker 03 Perfect.
28:51 Doug DeMuro? I can't, I hope those Porsche people are off the road so I don't have to deal with them. He's over here talking about Suzuka gray.
28:56 Speaker 03 One of the four has been totaled.
28:58 Doug DeMuro? It's a B7. It's God's chariot.
29:00 Speaker 03 No, it isn't.
29:03 Doug DeMuro? What weird event would you attend?
29:05 Speaker 03 You would go to like a G-Cab.
29:06 Speaker 04 I mean, I would go to
29:07 Doug DeMuro? I would never go to any event with fellow G-Cab owners. I gotta think about one.
29:11 Speaker 03 You would be legit. You have Travis Scott, Kylie Jenner.
29:14 Doug DeMuro? I would never want to be around.
29:16 Speaker 04 I would, I would go to a non-red Ferrari event where all the Ferraris were every color except for red.
29:21 Doug DeMuro? There is no like color event that I would
29:24 Speaker 04 If, I'm saying if you had to pick one of these, you're saying Ferrari.
29:26 Speaker 03 You would go to like a press color event.
29:28 Doug DeMuro? I would go to press
29:29 Speaker 03 That would be good.
29:29 Doug DeMuro? Press colors of normal cars from the 1980s, 90s through 2008.
29:34 Speaker 03 Yeah.
29:35 Doug DeMuro? That's all I want. Press colors of normal cars. I want to see like the, um, the Dodge Intrepid in that weird light blue that they had. I want to see the Cadillac CTS in the copper. Like that's, yes.
29:46 Speaker 03 You know the other?
29:47 Doug DeMuro? Coin slot Maxima in the copper.
29:48 Speaker 04 46 M3 in Phoenix yellow.
29:50 Doug DeMuro? Ah, it's too, it's not normal enough.
29:52 Speaker 03 The other color event we could do that I would go to and you would too would be the Sultan of Brunei Festival.
29:56 Doug DeMuro? Oh, yeah.
29:56 Speaker 03 Any yellow on red car or red on yellow car, as well as any car that was rescued from him may attend.
30:01 Speaker 04 Or golf themed interior car.
30:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you have like a golf interior, that, that counts.
30:07 Speaker 04 It counts.
30:08 Doug DeMuro? What about Harlequins? That's a festival I'd go to.
30:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
30:10 Doug DeMuro? Volkswagen Harlequin golf.
30:12 Speaker 03 It'd be interesting.
30:12 Doug DeMuro? It'd be an interesting crowd. I wouldn't want to talk to anybody.
30:14 Speaker 03 We're getting close to Radwood at that point.
30:16 Speaker 04 Kind of all of us, honestly, tailored right into Radford.
30:19 Speaker 03 Yep.
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31:42 Speaker 04 Well, sorry, Nebraska.
31:46 Speaker 04 Depending on which route you take, Nebraska, I've driven across the country many times as well. I think that, I mean, Nebraska, it just goes on and on.
31:54 Doug DeMuro? From Ohio, you go through Nebraska. I've never, I've never, well, I've driven through Nebraska, but I'm not on that drive, driven through Nebraska.
32:00 Speaker 04 Not the best. I think, I mean...
32:02 Doug DeMuro? Have you ever driven, no, your longest drive was to Monterey.
32:05 Speaker 03 Probably, or Sedona.
32:06 Speaker 04 Can you imagine?
32:07 Doug DeMuro? The guy doesn't like to drive. You know what he should do? Go to a rare shades festival.
32:11 Speaker 03 I don't like monotonous road trips.
32:13 Doug DeMuro? Monotonous, you see the country.
32:15 Speaker 04 You get a respect for how big this beautiful nation is. I think once you're west of Denver and you start to get into the mountains, then it becomes pretty special.
32:24 Doug DeMuro? I 70 through Colorado was the most... Beautiful section of interstate in the country. There's no question about that.
32:28 Speaker 04 I think that, yeah, and it's just for the when I did it the first time, I mean, I had driven and skied there. So I knew what it was like, but my friend Ryan hadn't seen it and watched someone experience that for the first time is.
32:38 Doug DeMuro? That specifically that stretch of interstate because interstates are normally so wide and slow and boring with small curves. And that one is like, you know, I was a kid growing up in Denver. When you're coming down the freeway, up the freeway, I 70, there's runaway truck ramps everywhere.
32:50 Speaker 04 Yes.
32:50 Doug DeMuro? And I just, as a kid, I thought all freeways must have runaway, like that's normal. That was normal. That was the only freeway we ever drove on. It must have runaway truck ramps and, and I discovered later that that's not actually normal.
33:00 Speaker 04 Whereas in Nebraska, you can just kind of just go off the whole states.
33:03 Doug DeMuro? You don't lose your brakes because you're not riding your brakes. But it literally never occurred to me as a child that that was something that wasn't just commonly done in, in interstate highways. It's really beautiful. However, on that drive across the country in Antucket, I take to go through the south and um. I'm gonna, I'm gonna throw you a curve ball here. Most beautiful state, Arkansas, Tennessee. Love Arkansas. There are times I'm on that drive, my family's not with me, right? And I'm like two days on the road away from my family and I get off to get gas in Arkansas, you know? And there's trees everywhere and there's like a little creek and there's like a, like a swamp kind of and like this beech birds. And I think to myself, you know, I could just keep going. I could just get off onto this county road and buy myself a nice,
33:48 Doug DeMuro? a nice property in Arkansas.
33:52 Doug DeMuro? Raise chickens, you know?
33:54 Speaker 04 Well, okay.
33:55 Doug DeMuro? So beautiful. The south is so beautiful and specifically the like densely green south.
34:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, I've developed a real affinity for the south. Even when we, when we went to IMSA, we went to um, road Atlanta. And just like the roads out there, so like in Buford and stuff and how beautiful the lakes.
34:12 Doug DeMuro? A lot of trees.
34:12 Speaker 04 Really? Yeah.
34:13 Doug DeMuro? East Tennessee, we have friends in Chattanooga. I love Chattanooga. I'm on Chattanooga Zillow all the time and I'm always dreaming.
34:19 Speaker 04 Always dreaming.
34:20 Doug DeMuro? Meanwhile, Nick, Nick's favorite spot is Mesa, Mesa, Arizona.
34:23 Speaker 04 Wait, so, so, okay, so you're saying most beautiful state, either Tennessee or Arkansas, your least favorite state?
34:29 Doug DeMuro? East Tennessee on the interstate, that I drive through because west, western part of Colorado is incredibly beautiful, but east Tennessee on. The interstate, you drive through some beautiful mountains and cross some incredible winding rivers and hillside. Yeah, the worst state to drive through on that drive, I mean, I guess it's Oklahoma. I'm a guy from the middle of the country. I love the middle of the country. I love a lot of those places. I don't like hate.
34:50 Speaker 04 I don't hate any of those places.
34:52 Doug DeMuro? North Texas, I will take that back. I-40 through North Texas is the worst part of the world.
34:59 Speaker 04 Just nothing.
34:59 Doug DeMuro? Sorry to say. I think that's Amarillo. And if we've just lost our Amarillo viewers, I'm sorry, but also you know, you know.
35:09 Speaker 04 And Nick, so you've never done this drive?
35:10 Speaker 03 I've never done a cross-country drive. I don't really have an ambition. Once I was cruising through Galveston and I saw a Lambo driving.
35:18 Speaker 04 Cruising through Galveston?
35:19 Speaker 03 Pretty sure it was a Lambo.
35:20 Speaker 04 As you do?
35:23 Doug DeMuro? That's the all-time, the all-time greatest car YouTube video.
35:25 Speaker 03 It is.
35:26 Doug DeMuro? Way better than any of mine.
35:27 Speaker 04 Nice.
35:27 Doug DeMuro? Uh, okay. Next question, and this is the great question that we've gotten this week. Uh, hey Doug and friends from This Is Patrick 06. Again, you're the friends. Just a quick question. Have you guys ever heard of the Audi A1 Club Sport Quattro? Pull it up.
35:38 Speaker 03 Of course.
35:38 Doug DeMuro? This car, I don't want to talk about this car actually, because I feel like I'm worried the values are going to go up. And when it's finally legal.
35:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
35:45 Speaker 04 They're so cool.
35:46 Doug DeMuro? I'm not going to be able to grab one. I'm, I'm telling you right now, there is no car that I want to import more than this car.
35:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, that, oh, that is so cool.
35:55 Doug DeMuro? Nick, tell us your thoughts as an Audi man.
35:57 Speaker 03 I mean, what's not to like? It's such a good size, tons of power.
36:02 Doug DeMuro? This, what this was, was a little, so A1 was like a super mini, like the smallest hatchback that they made. But while most of these were front-wheel drive, tiny, you know, city cars to get people into the Audi brand early. So this one, they made for some reason a high-performance version, the A1 Quattro, which had 260 horsepower and all-wheel drive. In this car, it's incredible. And it's so cool. They had white wheels.
36:25 Speaker 03 It's, it's funny, although if this were done aftermarket, you would just be like, this is the worst thing I've ever, and it kind of looks like the SEMA build. Just throwing that out there. Like those OZ wheels are rotiform wheels, that wing like.
36:38 Doug DeMuro? So right. He's so right.
36:39 Speaker 03 Give me an A1 and a couple cold ones. I can build you one that looks identical.
36:43 Doug DeMuro? They only made 300, yeah, but you can't put all the drive in it.
36:46 Speaker 03 ECS tuning probably has all of this in stock, you know? They'll ship it out of Ohio.
36:51 Speaker 04 That's right.
36:51 Doug DeMuro? I think this is one of the, they didn't do a stick, but I think it was a dual clutch. And I think it is just one of the, I love cars this size and I love like toss around cars like this. I'm not a front wheel drive guy, not a lot of car people are. And so having an all wheel drive system in this car, it must be so much fun. I want one so, so, so bad.
37:08 Speaker 04 Yeah, I support that.
37:09 Doug DeMuro? And if I had to kill Kenan to get one, I would, I would.
37:11 Speaker 04 I wouldn't be that upset about it myself.
37:13 Doug DeMuro? I'd think about it. That's my thought on it. Now, these cars were like 2011, so we're a long way away. 10 years still.
37:20 Speaker 04 That could be you.
37:21 Doug DeMuro? That could be me.
37:22 Speaker 04 Skidding across the gravel pit.
37:24 Doug DeMuro? I did get one imported Audi that, that was disappointing.
37:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, slightly. Two, actually.
37:30 Doug DeMuro? By the way, go back to the interior.
37:31 Speaker 03 The R2 counts as well, doesn't it?
37:33 Doug DeMuro? That was the one I was talking about.
37:34 Speaker 03 What about the A2?
37:35 Doug DeMuro? Oh, yeah.
37:35 Speaker 03 You've got two.
37:36 Doug DeMuro? I've only been disappointed by imported Audis. The interior was so cool. Look at this. Nick, we could be sitting in this right now.
37:43 Speaker 03 Yep. Again, SEMA build or OE.
37:49 Speaker 03 Especially with the Speed Hunters.
37:50 Doug DeMuro? And you know what? At every place, everywhere you took it, people would think it was.
37:54 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, for sure.
37:55 Doug DeMuro? Some dumb aftermarket build. They only made 333 of them for the whole world, and I think it is just one of the coolest cars on the planet. I really, truly do.
38:02 Speaker 04 I agree with that.
38:03 Doug DeMuro? Okay, next question from Tennessee Cool Cat into our, into our section of Kenan questions. From Tennessee Cool Cat, is no one gonna talk about the hypocrisy of Kenan buying a tip? Everyone seems to be avoiding the conversation intentionally. Kenan, what is your justification, just like everyone else has for their own reason, that they bought a tip? And by the way, there's nothing wrong with it.
38:25 Speaker 04 Well, you know, I've owned all manual cars except for my twin turbocharged V12 Mercedes. So, you know, you're right. You got me there.
38:33 Doug DeMuro? So your point is it's okay to buy a tip if you buy, if you get one that has 1,000 pound-feet of torque?
38:38 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:38 Doug DeMuro? If you're getting a Rentech tuned SL65 or a Dodge 3500 Power Wagon, then you can buy a tip.
38:44 Speaker 04 Yes, I've always wanted an SL65 and I, I felt for the longest time that one of its shortcomings was its transmission. I don't actually feel that way that much anymore about it. That car is so point and shoot and you kind of want it to hold in the gears. The auto suits the nature of a lot of AMG cars.
38:59 Doug DeMuro? Absolutely. I've tried to make this point to some of us and he doesn't accept it.
39:03 Speaker 04 No, I don't know. He seems to be more accepting of it now. But I think that, yes, I always wanted that car. And while it doesn't have a manual, I have to say, I've really enjoyed, I enjoy it anyway. I do think that I agree that generally having, I always want a manual and since I'll likely have my M5 for a long time, I still get that, that joy, but, and I think that most fun cars should be manual, but nonetheless.
39:25 Doug DeMuro? You wanted the experience.
39:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
39:26 Doug DeMuro? Your justification is you wanted the experience of this crazy car. A lot of people's justification is, I get tired. No, actually, I don't mind. That ain't me. I'm not tired. I don't mind having tip cars. I have a bunch. However, I want to point something out. You got half tips, you got all tips. You don't have a manual car at all right now. He's got the Fiat. It doesn't count.
39:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, it doesn't.
39:45 Doug DeMuro? Not only is it broken, but he's desperately trying to get out of it.
39:49 Doug DeMuro? I, however, have a majority of manuals.
39:53 Speaker 04 Yes, I'm a 50/50 split at the moment. My next car will be a manual for sure.
39:56 Doug DeMuro? I'm four sevenths, which works out to 57% manuals. Nick, do you have any?
40:00 Speaker 04 It just edges me.
40:01 Doug DeMuro? Do you have any, anything to say about that?
40:04 Speaker 03 No, and the next few cars I'm in the market for are all automatics.
40:07 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, that's true. Nick's moved on. He's getting older. He's getting grayer.
40:11 Speaker 04 That B7 is getting further in his rearview mirrors.
40:13 Doug DeMuro? Yeah. Pretty soon it'll be like a B7 RS4, but I wish they had made it auto.
40:17 Speaker 04 If only they.
40:18 Doug DeMuro? That Tiptronic was just so satisfying to put into gear and then push over to the.
40:21 Speaker 03 You know, it's hard to Carfax your old cars when you're, we're driving a stick. You know, you need the hand free. Type in those long.
40:28 Doug DeMuro? You're not driving a stick.
40:30 Speaker 03 Exactly. I'm, I'm making, I'm being productive. I'm doing deals at the stoplight.
40:37 Speaker 04 Big business.
40:39 Doug DeMuro? That's interesting. I, um, yeah, you guys are now auto people.
40:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, I wouldn't say that.
40:44 Speaker 03 The, the, the viewer is very astute on our deep state conspiracy of, of burying that news story.
40:49 Speaker 04 I didn't bury it at all.
40:50 Speaker 03 The truth is out. The shocking truth revealed.
40:52 Doug DeMuro? No, we.
40:53 Speaker 04 Cars were made only as an automatic.
40:55 Doug DeMuro? Everybody on this pod has always been like, only manuals, only manuals. And then they all end up with automatics. Filippo, Mr. Only Manuels himself has an automatic. He's got an automatic. I'm the only one from my fun cars who's never deviated. I've never had a fun car with only two pedals, ever, in my entire.
41:09 Speaker 03 Time to man up and get a Veyron.
41:14 Speaker 03 And guess what Transat's gonna have a tip.
41:16 Doug DeMuro? Uh, next Kenan question. Uh, this question is for Kenan, and this is a good one. Uh, and then we have a Nick question. Uh, Kenan, this one is for Kenan. Kenan, uh, Kenan. Kenan, we all know how much you love your M5, but is it your M5 that you love, or is it the E39 M5 in general? If a lower mileage M5 in your dream spec with extensive service history became available, would you sell the M5 you have now in order to get it? That's from OP Starfish.
41:41 Speaker 04 Uh, really good question.
41:43 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
41:45 Speaker 04 I have run into this situation before, uh, and honestly, it is my M5 that I love specifically.
41:51 Doug DeMuro? Wow.
41:52 Speaker 03 Dude doesn't even love the E39 M5.
41:53 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
41:54 Speaker 04 I, I do love them all.
41:55 Speaker 03 It's cause it's a rare shade of silver, silver and another silver.
41:59 Speaker 04 Yes, that is true. Um, but yeah, no, I think it has become, for a time, the answer that was yes, because I didn't want a silver one specifically. I didn't want an O2. I didn't want the black interior. I, I did. That's not what I wanted. And that's exactly what I got. And so for a while, the answer would have been yes, but as I've grown to like, as I've grown with this car, I, I don't see having.
42:19 Doug DeMuro? You wouldn't swap out. Let's say.
42:20 Speaker 04 Unless it gets totaled, I would, don't think I would.
42:23 Doug DeMuro? Let's say, uh, sunburst yellow becomes available. All right.
42:26 Speaker 04 Dakar yellow, we'll say.
42:28 Doug DeMuro? Whatever it is. The famous yellow car comes available.
42:30 Speaker 04 I don't really want the banana. Um, there are, there are colors like, uh.
42:34 Doug DeMuro? What do you like?
42:35 Speaker 03 Interlagos?
42:36 Speaker 04 Uh, there is one, there's, uh, two that come to mind. There's one Estero blue E39 M5 in the United States. It was painted by BMW individuals in 03. It was in Georgia last. I remember finding the M5 board.
42:48 Doug DeMuro? It looks nice too.
42:49 Speaker 04 It looked fantastic.
42:50 Doug DeMuro? It looks so good.
42:51 Speaker 04 Um, there is, and there's one that's in Eastern Europe. It's the only one that was made in Topaz blue, which was my 525 color. And I loved that blue. It's a really nice blue. It's the blue of the Z8s. It's that, that blue. Uh, and so if, if one of those came up, I think that would be, that would really push me, but. But there's only one of each, so like, they made more Estero ones, but usually they're UK cars in right-hand drive.
43:16 Speaker 03 It's like my Suzuka gray ours far.
43:18 Speaker 04 Like, yes, that you're.
43:19 Speaker 03 We're keeping tabs on them, but they'll just never be an option.
43:22 Speaker 04 Your elephant actually is white. Mine is, you know, yeah.
43:24 Doug DeMuro? Uh, next question from Cool Man Food. This question about me, but to you guys. Uh, dear Doug, you talk all about how exciting it is to have certain cars in your friend group, like for example, NSLR. I'm curious, was anyone in your friend group excited for the 993 Turbo, or has it been, ended up being a car just for you? No one cares about the 993 Turbo. In our friend group, in public, no one cares.
43:49 Speaker 04 I like the car. But our friend Sam was into it.
43:54 Speaker 03 The Porsche guys in our group, Addison and Sam are pretty happy.
43:57 Doug DeMuro? Nick actively does not like the car. He thinks it's a radically stupid money.
44:01 Speaker 03 No, I'm into it. I would never follow your footsteps here, but...
44:07 Doug DeMuro? The same week I got it, he spent the same money for an SLR. And I got an old 911 Turbo where the...
44:13 Speaker 03 Precisely.
44:14 Doug DeMuro? Where the fan belt sensor warning light is permanently on. Listen, the car, that car is a great example of a car that is only for the person sitting in the driver's seat. And I have a lot of other cars that impress people when I drive them around, but that is absolutely not it. But I am impressed by driving it, and I think there's benefits to all of that. You know, your SLR, people are like, "Whoa." Meanwhile, you're getting your Focus, and then you're like, "Whoa."
44:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:44 Doug DeMuro? You know what I'm saying?
44:45 Speaker 03 For sure.
44:45 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
44:45 Speaker 04 Right.
44:46 Speaker 03 I see the Focus STs out there.
44:49 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
44:50 Speaker 03 You're in.
44:51 Speaker 04 Well, I'm happy for you. But that's... And I do love the 993. I think it's one of the all-time great 911s.
44:59 Doug DeMuro? I will say...
45:00 Speaker 04 My 11 generation.
45:00 Doug DeMuro? As undesirable as the car has been among members of the public and our friend group, who barely even batted an eyelash on it when I pull up in it, you know? We've made it like a tradition that we all like show up when someone's car is getting delivered to like see it. All of us would like take off of work and like go to the trailer and, you know, check out the car. 993 Turbo came, people were like, "Well, okay. So, lunch."
45:24 Speaker 03 I will agree, other than the reason I'm happy about it is because it signifies you being back on cars openly. And not buying these BSE cars that were like, you know, $6,000, what's the snail car, the S-Cargo?
45:38 Doug DeMuro? The thing I was gonna say though is, quickly in my world, it has become a huge hit. And I haven't driven my other cars in a while.
45:48 Speaker 04 She drives the Kunta, well I mean Kunta, she drove the Kunta recently.
45:51 Doug DeMuro? Not much.
45:52 Speaker 03 Not, not a Porsche guy.
45:53 Doug DeMuro? And the Ford GT I am never using, which is so sad because I did take it out the other day and I love it so much, but.
45:59 Speaker 04 Poor Ford.
46:00 Doug DeMuro? The 993's, you know, practical.
46:03 Speaker 04 Because you can take your kids in it, is that?
46:04 Doug DeMuro? That's a big part of it. Also, the holiday season is a time for practicality. I often am running errands. I had to go pick up ice the other day. Ford GT has literally no storage.
46:15 Speaker 04 That's true.
46:16 Doug DeMuro? Literally not. After we finish wrapping, I'm returning a toilet bowl cover to the UPS store right above. So, I'm with you. You gotta, you gotta be ready. The P38 delivers.
46:27 Speaker 03 Uh, okay, next. I was gonna lock the car, but the lock doesn't really work and you're like, ah, it's a toilet, you know?
46:33 Speaker 04 The whole car is a toilet.
46:34 Speaker 03 If you need a new toilet seat cover, go ahead. He's got a toilet in a toilet.
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48:10 Doug DeMuro? PorscheWeenie asks, question for all three of you. If you were comfortable taking the approach that other automotive YouTubers had towards financing their cars, what would your collection look like? Ah, I think about this all the time. Cause I watch these guys and I know some of their financial situations, either from them personally or from being told about it from, and I know what's going on behind the scenes. And I know that they're one, everybody's always, some of these YouTubers, everybody's always like, you're complaining about this, but you're a rich YouTuber. I want to chime in and be like, you have no idea how close that dude is to personal bankruptcy.
48:46 Doug DeMuro? But unfortunately, I don't do that. I own all my cars and, but I wish I could be irresponsible. In which case they said, well, you have an F40. Yeah, I'd probably have an F50, honestly. What would you get?
48:57 Speaker 04 I don't know. I mean, I would probably, I probably would stretch back into that 100,000-ish, like, I mean, for me, probably a 575 or something like that I would stretch back into. Like, it's just not the right time to spend 100 grand on a car again, like I did with
49:11 Doug DeMuro? What about a 599?
49:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, so funny you mention that. I was, this past weekend, there was a manual swap 599 at Cars and Coffee. That car gets more appealing by the day to me, even over the 550 and 575. Like, that engine just hits you in the face, you know?
49:26 Doug DeMuro? It does. Which actually is one of the reasons why the manual, the drawback of a manual with that car is it's so fast that if you're doing any sort of real speed driving, the manual's like too much almost. But you still want a manual.
49:37 Speaker 04 You still, yeah, cause most of the time you're not driving like that.
49:39 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
49:40 Speaker 04 So, yeah, I think, yeah, 599 and then doing the stick conversion. And if I were brave like Nick, cause you know, you look at a 599, it's 10 grand.
49:46 Doug DeMuro? You look at 599, it's 10 grand?
49:49 Speaker 04 Yeah, 599 is probably, it's a good point. That's probably the one. That's probably the one for me. What about you?
49:54 Speaker 03 I feel like I'm inching dangerously close to what he's describing in the first place. Every YouTube video I produce probably nets me a massive four-figure loss in terms of all the maintenance I did to make like $30 in ad sense back. So I'm kind of what he's describing.
50:11 Doug DeMuro? Right.
50:11 Speaker 03 If I were willing to get more leveraged, I would have a second fun car. And I really, you and I agree on this so much, but an XJ220.
50:21 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
50:21 Speaker 03 Or an S7, something punishingly expensive to own that you will literally never see again. It'll be the only one that you see driving anywhere you go.
50:29 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
50:30 Speaker 03 Something like that that's just beyond ridiculous.
50:32 Doug DeMuro? XJ220 would be so cool.
50:34 Speaker 03 I also.
50:34 Speaker 04 Either one.
50:35 Speaker 03 If I were to be a little bit more practical, Diablo 6.0.
50:38 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
50:39 Speaker 03 But a Diablo is, our friend is proving is a very difficult car to own, but I want one so badly.
50:45 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, I, me too. Uh, that would be cool. I would have a lot of stuff.
50:49 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:49 Doug DeMuro? Cause I could leverage a lot and really go crazy. I would definitely get an F40, F50.
50:54 Speaker 03 The problem is you've discovered is once you get past like 10 cars, it, it becomes a burden.
50:58 Doug DeMuro? That's one of the reasons I'd go after like the craziest of crazy. I would have a lot of crazy stuff, but it'd be about, probably about the same number of cars. Uh, and my financial situation would be sketch, as sketchy as some of the people who are out there today, possibly watching and thinking, am I talking about, is he talking about me? Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, not Hoovy. Compared to some of these guys that we've now heard some stories about.
51:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
51:20 Doug DeMuro? Hoovy is, is Dave Ramsey.
51:57 Speaker 03 You can see how it happens though because you normalize it very quickly.
52:00 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
52:00 Speaker 03 It's just like a...
52:02 Doug DeMuro? Well, and you're thinking only about monthly expenses. Like, can I cover this? Can I cover the payment this month? If I make it this much in AdSense, I can do that. And you're not thinking about like any sort of long-term saving or how you can continue to exist or whatever. And so like, your only thought is, can I cover that payment this month? If I make this video, I can. Okay, well then I get another one or do even more crazy videos. And the next thing you know, you're like, you're like, you're earning 150 grand a month, but your spend is 146 grand a month.
52:26 Speaker 03 Yep. Yeah, and you've convinced, everyone, I think convinces themselves they're Mr. Beast. Where they're not spending recklessly, they're reinvesting it for the business, you know? But like, it's not.
52:35 Doug DeMuro? Not, no.
52:36 Speaker 03 It's different.
52:37 Doug DeMuro? Uh, from Connecticut SF, this is on the topic of what we just discussed. Doug, when are you gonna stop kidding yourself and give into the sirens long of the 550 or 575? Given your comment in the video about being a daily option like your 4GT, it seems like you'd do a straight equal dollar swap for a manual 550 or 575. Uh, or an auto and save money. So swapping the 4GT into one of those. Uh, there is literally nothing in the world that would convince me to swap my 4GT into 550 or 575. There is literally nothing on this planet. No possible thing, uh, that could do that.
53:08 Speaker 03 Yep.
53:09 Doug DeMuro? Anyway, next question.
53:10 Speaker 04 Because the Ferrari is just more fragile. The Ford is a very simple car. Realistically, it's very easy to take care of. Parts are inexpensive. That not one of those things can be said about any Ferrari.
53:20 Doug DeMuro? 575 is dailyable from the perspective that it is relatively comfortable and relatively soft and relatively not noticeable and quite practical, more so than the 4GT. But the thing the 4GT has over those cars is, uh, that it is durable. And the 550 and 575, they are not durable. They are not reliable. They are expensive when they break. They are relatively reliable for Ferraris. If you were gonna daily one, these cars, some of them have real miles on them. They're totally great, but they're not like the 4GT. And more importantly, at the end of the day, the 4GT just drives way better. Like, not even close. Like, simply drives much better. Like, an order of magnitude.
53:55 Speaker 04 As it should. Yeah, as it should. It's a different category of car.
53:58 Doug DeMuro? Different category, different...
54:00 Speaker 03 10 years newer.
54:00 Doug DeMuro? I mean, it's much newer. I think that's really the big, the big factor. But there is nothing that would convince me to do it. I still think about getting... Ferrari. Kenan is constantly getting on me about how I don't have a Ferrari.
54:09 Speaker 03 Stick swap, super America.
54:11 Speaker 04 You've got one Ferrari and one BMW.
54:12 Doug DeMuro? It's silly. I got all these cars in my garage and I got two Porsches now, which is honestly embarrassing. And I don't have a Ferrari. What is going on?
54:20 Speaker 04 Well, it makes, I mean, it makes sense. Your use case for it is difficult.
54:23 Doug DeMuro? Why don't you convince me to get a Ferrari?
54:25 Speaker 04 I'll work on it. I'm trying to get you to BMW first and we're working our way there.
54:29 Doug DeMuro? How about 340 Evo?
54:31 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:31 Doug DeMuro? Dude, when I, when we do that, I will be able to race anybody in a Ford Fusion Titanium.
54:39 Speaker 04 I don't think that's true. I think they could take, gap you. They take you to Gapplebee's.
54:43 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
54:43 Speaker 03 By now, though, they're all probably a little down on power.
54:46 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
54:46 Speaker 03 You might have a shot.
54:47 Doug DeMuro? That's a good point.
54:48 Speaker 04 Maybe.
54:48 Doug DeMuro? It's a good point. Plus, when do you find one? This isn't here on Ohio, am I right?
54:51 Speaker 03 Yeah. Or Sandusky.
54:55 Doug DeMuro? Uh, okay. Next question. We have a few more. We got a few more questions here. Uh, dear Doug, you don't seem to care about show-worthy, low-mileage cars. You like cars that are for driving. But do door dings and rock chips bother you? Or is that part of what makes a car in your view? And then he says, do you pay to fix door dings and rock chips in your cars? I never have, ever. Not once. Remember when I sold those cars on the site with the broken windshield and everybody got so mad at me?
55:21 Doug DeMuro? People like, how could you do this? The windshield's broken? You could just replace it?
55:25 Speaker 04 See it right there. Big crack.
55:28 Doug DeMuro? No, I don't fix any of that stuff. Uh, little different opinions on this side of the table. Kenan, Nick, do you want to give yours?
55:34 Speaker 04 Yes. I'm very careful about where I park my car, so it's rare that it gets a door ding. Um, but it like periodically it has to go in for dent removal and PDR. It's not, it's not a big deal. Stone chips I'm actually less precious about. I've been waiting for one to hit my windshield for years. I'm so eager to replace that windshield and it just never happens.
55:52 Doug DeMuro? Why?
55:53 Speaker 04 It's, it's got lots of little chips in it, but nothing big enough to like, like, cause I know if I replace it, it's gonna, that'll be the day I take a walk.
56:01 Speaker 03 Well, you should replace it with PPF.
56:03 Speaker 04 I hate the way PPF looks and it scratches every time you use it.
56:05 Doug DeMuro? I will say, one of the reasons I don't care about this, I got PPF, so my big four, four of my big five, the 993, the Ford GT, the Carrera GT, they are all PPF'd fully. Uh, the Countach isn't, but the paint's trash.
56:21 Doug DeMuro? And I keep, and I keep running it into stuff. So really, it's not a problem. And so, so it's not as big of an issue to me because when you have the whole car PPF, including the windshield, you don't have to necessarily be quite as careful, especially about paint factory. The PDR doesn't bother me at all. I mean, yeah, you can just get that done.
56:38 Speaker 04 That's true. Yeah. For me, it's like, I don't know. To do great PPF work versus painting, it costs the same. If you realistically look in, and it's like, and PPF is not all it's cracked up to be. It stains and gets crap all over it. And you do, it's like, there's a level of care required for if you're me, you want it to be perfect. That it's like, it is more difficult than I had realized.
57:00 Doug DeMuro? Never in my life I've done anything.
57:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm aware. But, but yeah, I don't know. It's just not, what about you? Are you bothered by rock chips?
57:09 Speaker 03 Somewhere between the two of you. They bother me, but I live with them. I drive the cars. They all have imperfections. You find out about them. To your point, PDR and PPF, plus an occasional respray, like, I'm buying used cars. So like, I think it's if you buy something new and you want to preserve it, that's why the SLR bothered me is it was 4,000 some miles. I had to PPF it because it just was too nice. And I knew I would screw something up.
57:34 Doug DeMuro? And so he ended up PPFing random panels. He did like a couple of fronts, one of the sides.
57:39 Speaker 03 Well, I told Kevin do the front clip. And he's like, oh, well, while we're in there, we should do this part. We should do that part. And I didn't really do the calculus. And he basically said, let's do everything but like a door.
57:51 Doug DeMuro? Ah, rock chips don't. No, listen, we're not, we can't all be Kenan. We wish we could. God.
57:56 Speaker 04 I, yeah, well, yes.
57:58 Doug DeMuro? Uh, okay. Next question, uh, from Kiromax9192. Kiromax9192. Is there a cutting room floor of not safe for work Nick footage that we're all missing out on? I swear a few weeks ago, you and Costume Kenan were laughing way too hard at an innocuous Nick joke, and it couldn't have just been the one that was said.
58:19 Speaker 03 Yep.
58:19 Doug DeMuro? I bet it wasn't.
58:20 Speaker 04 Yep. Our producer made the decision to cut that. It was really funny.
58:24 Doug DeMuro? Every time Nick's on the show, Nick, Nick, Nick starts his show with this, with this man of the people, I don't support Bezos, I love the workers rant. You should see what he says when the cameras are off.
58:37 Speaker 03 Nick is one of the most entertaining people I know and there are things that we can't, for his safety, we can't put out, but. I like to think I have no filter. The reality is I just don't think before I talk.
58:48 Doug DeMuro? Similar though.
58:48 Speaker 03 I mean, that's the same thing. There have been a number of clips circulated through the friend group of things I said that did not make the podcast. So, yes, it occasionally happens. I also think it's a good way to start the podcast. If I make you laugh really hard and then throw you off your balance a little bit. So, sometimes I strategically plant something in there just to mess with your head. And other times it just is how it comes out. Sometimes it just comes out.
59:09 Doug DeMuro? No, Nick says a lot of stuff that is totally insane. We call him Crazy Nick. And Ian, I think that his full crazy isn't able to really shine through because some of the stuff just simply can't be put in front of hundreds of thousands of people. But.
59:24 Speaker 03 You know what's funny is the haters on the YouTube comment against me say that I don't take enough, like my opinions are very predictable and normal and that I need to like take a more controversial opinion. I'm like, let's just get caught.
59:36 Doug DeMuro? His opinions, that's insane that he says that because he bought an SLR. The whole thing was that he's, he got rid of his Mercy, which everybody loves, and then the S got an SLR. That's the least predictable opinion a person could.
59:47 Speaker 03 You know who else got an SLR? Manny got another one.
59:50 Doug DeMuro? No, he did not.
59:50 Speaker 03 He bought the one on Bring using an alias.
59:52 Doug DeMuro? You're kidding.
59:53 Speaker 03 He's gonna do another HDK full MSL recommission kind of thing. But, yeah, I think it's his 10th.
59:59 Doug DeMuro? You're kidding.
1:00:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:00 Speaker 04 People say I have a problem.
1:00:01 Speaker 03 And when he bought it, he then screenshotted it on Instagram. He goes, wow, someone got an insane deal. And it was him. He later revealed that. So, like, he was in on the joke, but like.
1:00:10 Doug DeMuro? I love Manny so much. I love Manny indescribably much. You know what you want to do is you want to burn down Manny's car warehouse because that would have a significant impact on the number of SLRs around.
1:00:21 Speaker 03 Don't give him an idea.
1:00:23 Doug DeMuro? Like 10, 10 fewer cars.
1:00:24 Speaker 03 Maybe the Rare Shades Festival needs to be hosted at the Koshbin Company headquarters.
1:00:27 Doug DeMuro? Dude, I got a Manny story for you that I've never told in this pod before. I went up to film something with him. I used to film with him. He doesn't really use his, like, he doesn't drive his cars, so I can't really film with him because I like to do a drive. Which is a shame because I legitimately liked Manny. Like, I've met some people doing this who.
1:00:46 Doug DeMuro? And then I met some people who I like, and Manny is one of the ones I truly liked. And, um, and he told me, cause Manny had a yellow Carrera G T. And he told me right before they were starting to take off, as they were starting to take off, that he had sold it for like 650. And he said it needed like 85 in service. It needed the, Carrera G Ts after like 15 years needed the engine out and it needed like, you know, the cams were pitting. I mean, it needed real service and the market hadn't quite taken off yet. And I at that point was like,
1:01:16 Doug DeMuro? could have stretched and maybe. And, um, shame.
1:01:20 Speaker 03 Got away.
1:01:21 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, that's a 2 million car now.
1:01:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:23 Doug DeMuro? And I am stuck with silver.
1:01:25 Speaker 03 Good.
1:01:25 Doug DeMuro? Meanwhile, Manny's stuck piling SLR. He shouldn't have stuck piling Carrera G Ts. He messed up.
1:01:29 Speaker 03 I mean, he's like Michael Burry in The Big Short. He's not wrong. He's just early.
1:01:32 Doug DeMuro? He's early.
1:01:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:33 Doug DeMuro? He's early and it's all gonna work out for him eventually.
1:01:36 Speaker 04 Nice, great quote.
1:01:37 Doug DeMuro? Uh, here's a question for you guys on the subject of craziness. M E O two O four two four writes, uh, you said that in the past, Crazy Nick is only at a seven out of 10 for his YouTube videos, which is true, by the way. He's crazier on the pod, I think, than he is in his own videos. He almost needs people to like play off.
1:01:51 Speaker 03 Go to my, yeah.
1:01:52 Doug DeMuro? Like you, when, when we do, we did this thing with the A2 on the desert. Uh, he, I, we gotta edit some of it cause it's not appropriate. Like what?
1:02:02 Doug DeMuro? The car maintenance habits of people in parts of this middle of the country. We can't cover some of that. Uh, um, but anyway, um.
1:02:10 Speaker 03 I don't recall that.
1:02:12 Doug DeMuro? I'll, I'll, I'll remind you off podcast. But anyway, uh, on the same scale, the question asks, how much crazier is Doug in real life compared to the podcast?
1:02:20 Speaker 04 Um, uh, the, you're, you are pretty crazy. And we do give him a lot of shtick, but you have, uh, it's fun setting you off. Like when you, he says something, you go, what?
1:02:35 Speaker 04 Doug is crazy in some other ways. Like I don't think people realize how deep your tennis addiction really runs. Like.
1:02:40 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, I only, I only like to talk about cars. I don't really get into some of the non-car stuff. I have some real passions and interests that have nothing to do with cars that we never come.
1:02:48 Speaker 04 And they run deep. All of a sudden, he'll mention something. It's like, what long form did he read today where he got into that? So there's some, there's, yeah, Doug is a, a very crazy person as well. I have to, we're all pretty nuts in different ways.
1:03:00 Speaker 03 I always describe you as you're exactly. In your videos, how you are in real life.
1:03:05 Doug DeMuro? You think so?
1:03:05 Speaker 03 I see zero difference. You are incredibly energetic and loud and fun, but like over the top at all times, on or off.
1:03:13 Doug DeMuro? I would argue, though, in the main, the regular videos, I'm not as much like that as I am in the pod, where I think my real, it's like how we all thought Jerry Seinfeld was like a warm teddy bear, nice guy, until we started watching comedians in cars getting coffee, and we realized he hates everyone. Now, I don't hate everyone, to be clear, but I think there's like a personality shift that was realized when I got on the pod.
1:03:31 Speaker 03 I feel like when you're on the pod, you're not like really, you're maybe turning up the energy a little bit, but you're very high energy. Like, this is largely a representative sample.
1:03:39 Doug DeMuro? As it is of you.
1:03:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:41 Doug DeMuro? This is real Nick.
1:03:42 Speaker 03 You come over, you compliment my home decor in the same calm manner that you speak here. It's, it's very consistent.
1:03:49 Doug DeMuro? This is great stuff!
1:03:50 Speaker 03 You love my nautical theme.
1:03:52 Doug DeMuro? This is great. I love that you've hung this generic picture of a boat from Home Goods a little bit off-center
1:03:59 Doug DeMuro? on this wall that's 10 times larger than the painting. This is great! That's what I say.
1:04:05 Speaker 03 I have heard him say stuff like that before. Gosh, we did a walking tour of my neighborhood once and...
1:04:10 Doug DeMuro? Oh, yeah, that was, that was...
1:04:11 Speaker 03 Couldn't look at any of my neighbors in the eye for a while.
1:04:15 Doug DeMuro? That was a tough situation for everybody. I, I somewhat regret that, but also I couldn't stop it.
1:04:22 Doug DeMuro? Next question from Benny T. Mostly for Doug. You have a short list of cars left after having so many, you have a short list of cars left after having so many. What else is on it? You know, it's an interesting point, and I've started to realize that I don't have that many more cars left that I actually want, which is a scary thought.
1:04:42 Doug DeMuro? I had made a list like 10 years ago of cars I want.
1:04:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:45 Doug DeMuro? And on that list, and I've kept it as an Apple Note on my phone for 10 years, and on that list, I have either crossed off or no longer desired almost every car. And I'm not adding to it. I'm not sitting here like, ooh, this came out. I really want that.
1:05:00 Doug DeMuro? It's getting, it's getting slim, which is one of the reasons I haven't sold any of my special cars. I don't find replacements that I'm like really particularly interested in. When I look at my list of cars that I want, this famous list that I have, that I've been keeping for so long, the only things that I see that I really, really still want. Some sort of Euro only Mercedes AMG wagon, either a C55 from 2005, or a C43 from the late 90s, or an E55 from 01. An Evo 6, left-hand drive in blue, they don't exist, basically. 996 GT2, 911. Mark IV Super Turbo, for sure. Mega Cruiser, R34 GT-R. That's kinda it. That's like, that's like six cars, right?
1:05:44 Doug DeMuro? And that's why I got my whole life left to live. What am I gonna do? An F40. I mean, I got a F40. I've got some expensive stuff on this list that would be amazing, but I can't, couldn't afford it then, can't afford it now, probably never will, and I'm kind of okay with that. There's just not all that much stuff that I'm particularly interested in anymore. And that scares me. That like literally scares me as well. I'm not exaggerating. Like, when I think about it, like, nothing, and not, cars aren't being built that I sit here thinking that's gonna go on my list.
1:06:10 Speaker 04 Yep, my list is not long either, as I look at it.
1:06:13 Doug DeMuro? What do you have, you got a list?
1:06:14 Speaker 04 Of course, yeah. And I made this probably also about six, seven years ago.
1:06:18 Doug DeMuro? Six, seven.
1:06:18 Speaker 04 Actually, not many, only one. Only two.
1:06:22 Doug DeMuro? Why are you like?
1:06:25 Doug DeMuro? I don't know.
1:06:25 Speaker 04 You are a literal child. So, yeah, so for me, the only BMWs, Z4M Roadster and Z8, they're on there.
1:06:33 Doug DeMuro? Not M Coupe, Z4M Coupe?
1:06:34 Speaker 04 Nope, Roadster. I live in Southern California.
1:06:37 Doug DeMuro? Yeah, but the Coupe is cool.
1:06:38 Speaker 04 V1, first gen, V12 Vanquish S.
1:06:42 Speaker 04 CT5 V Blackwing, Dodge Viper, RT10 or SRT10. 575, 612. 599, Gardo Supé L'Air, first gen, LC500. 996 Turbo, 997.1 GT3, 981 Boxer Spider.
1:06:56 Doug DeMuro? But that's, those cars will last you a while. You need one of those every two years, you're good till you're 60.
1:07:01 Speaker 04 Yeah, there you go.
1:07:03 Doug DeMuro? I'm screwed!
1:07:04 Speaker 04 You're, yeah, well, yes, we're different seasons of our lives.
1:07:08 Doug DeMuro? I'm out!
1:07:09 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:07:10 Doug DeMuro? This is it!
1:07:11 Speaker 04 I don't know what to do.
1:07:11 Doug DeMuro? We're not that different in age. I'm only seven years older than you are.
1:07:13 Speaker 04 That's, that's a pretty significant difference.
1:07:15 Doug DeMuro? I want a list like that!
1:07:17 Speaker 04 Well, I'll send it to you. I'll take it to you. But you must have a list.
1:07:22 Doug DeMuro? It's incredibly long.
1:07:23 Speaker 04 This'll be good.
1:07:24 Speaker 03 It's very long, although I realize part of the reason it's so long is I have the Blackwood in there twice.
1:07:29 Speaker 04 He wants it so much.
1:07:31 Speaker 03 However, I think the problem we were discussing off pod is as you ascend the ranks of automotive vehicles, it's hard to take back steps, right? The the the Terme Cobra, for instance, like we wanted that forever. But if you've had a Ford GT, it's a huge step backwards and you're never gonna drive it.
1:07:47 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:07:47 Speaker 03 Same with the Multipla, like it's cool, but what I have an SLR and a P38 and all these amazing vehicles to choose from. It's hard to choose the Multipla. So that out of the way.
1:07:58 Doug DeMuro? I agree with that. That's a point that is like real. I think about that a lot, like there are cars on this list that I really idolized at one point.
1:08:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:08:05 Doug DeMuro? But then I look at it now, Multipla was on my list, but I look at it now and I'm like, I know what that's gonna be like and I I'm just not gonna.
1:08:12 Speaker 03 Been there, done that.
1:08:12 Doug DeMuro? Been there, done that, kinda.
1:08:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think that's why all these brands are coming out that are like the SSC two Atara and the Aspark Owl.
1:08:19 Doug DeMuro? For people who just they got it all, what else is out there?
1:08:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, they need something more exotic and ridiculous. And so unless it has 2000 horsepower and a 13-speed manual transmission, they're not interested. So I will say I'm surprised at your list, like a Chrysler ME412.
1:08:37 Doug DeMuro? I do think that both of our lists would change if our financial circumstances changed.
1:08:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, oh yeah, F50 would be on the list and so I mean, yeah.
1:08:43 Doug DeMuro? Like if I had a ton more money, there would be more cars, not as many as I wish. But like if you you'd have F40, etc.
1:08:50 Speaker 04 Like Powerball's at a billion dollars right now. If I won that, like it would be, yeah, I mean, absolutely, I'd jump in an F50 next week.
1:08:56 Doug DeMuro? You know, it would almost be sad though.
1:08:58 Speaker 03 It would be speedboat season, you know?
1:09:00 Doug DeMuro? It would almost be sad though, because don't you think that we would eventually get to the same place with infinite money that we've gotten to without infinite money?
1:09:06 Speaker 04 You know, I think sort of.
1:09:07 Doug DeMuro? It's almost nice to have.
1:09:09 Speaker 04 I don't know. I think we're intellectual. I like to think we're intellectual enough. I think it would balloon like this and then we'd kind of pare down and you just end up with a 993 turbo.
1:09:16 Doug DeMuro? But that's kind of my point, like in 10 years after you had infinite money, you'd sit there and be like, yeah, I have the X329. And you know what? I didn't want any of those cars and there's still nothing that I want. And now I have infinite money and there's still nothing that I want. That'd be sad. I almost don't want infinite money for that reason. I always, I would be nice to have something to aspire to. Think I'll take the infinite mine. Sounds pretty good. Like, I have a suspicion that even with all the, and I've seen this with car collectors that I know who have crazy money. They get the F40, the F50, the Enzo, all the cars, and then eventually they're like, well. Well, the Sultan of Brunei is the best example. He got so bored, he just had. Almost all the guys I know who are in that circumstance moved on to something like the Sultan, not paying the Rolls Royce to develop their own cars, but like
1:09:56 Doug DeMuro? one offs or weird customs or whatever that like other guys couldn't, rich guys couldn't have. Right.
1:10:03 Speaker 03 You know, if the Sultan Bernai was, Prince Jeffrey was doing his thing today, do you think he'd be getting invites with CVK over Instagram? How sick would that be?
1:10:11 Doug DeMuro? Yes. Absolutely.
1:10:13 Speaker 03 Wouldn't that be like, that would be.
1:10:15 Doug DeMuro? I didn't think about that. Dude, the Sultan would be, it'd be like the UAE, honestly, it'd be like the Middle East. Like, it'd be like rich people there.
1:10:22 Speaker 03 It'd be great.
1:10:22 Doug DeMuro? It'd be, oh my God.
1:10:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:10:24 Doug DeMuro? And it'd be hard to keep those cars off Insta. He wouldn't keep those cars off Insta.
1:10:27 Speaker 03 No, I think he would have.
1:10:28 Doug DeMuro? He wouldn't want to be in there. Yeah.
1:10:32 Doug DeMuro? He did everything but too early. Nick, what's on your list?
1:10:34 Speaker 03 Uh, I mean, do you want the serious cars or the?
1:10:38 Doug DeMuro? Just hit me with 10 randoms. Let me have, you got it up? You got it up? Let me, let me, let me say it. Let me, oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. Uh, C5 RS6 stick swap. CLS 55. What? What, really? That's a 63, which was more powerful in the same body.
1:10:55 Speaker 03 I went the M13.
1:10:56 Doug DeMuro? A little more loud, but yeah, okay. Okay. Uh, Funkmaster Flex Ford Expedition.
1:11:02 Speaker 03 That'll be a car I'm immediately disappointed in, but yes, I want one.
1:11:05 Doug DeMuro? It was just an Expedition with different paint. It was a two-tone. That's it though.
1:11:09 Speaker 03 The FMF logo.
1:11:10 Doug DeMuro? Otherwise, it's like a 2012 Ford Expedition.
1:11:12 Speaker 03 You may not appreciate the finer details of Funkmaster Flex, but some of us do.
1:11:16 Doug DeMuro? 02 to 06 Jaguar XKR. That's bad, the previous body.
1:11:20 Speaker 03 You know, I like the previous body, but 02 is a facelift and they, they took care of some issues.
1:11:24 Doug DeMuro? I actually really like the 96, 97s. Uh, ML55 or 63, radically different cars. X5 4.8, but he doesn't want the 4.6, the better looking one. Well. Uh, Pajero Evo. Why? He wrote M Coupe, and then he wrote S52 or S54. In other words, M Coupe.
1:11:44 Doug DeMuro? He's got some check.
1:11:45 Speaker 03 Well, I wanted to remind myself not to be too snobbish that the 52 is probably fine.
1:11:49 Doug DeMuro? He has on here P38, check. Another P38, check. And he has hopefully one more P38.
1:11:57 Doug DeMuro? 430 skewed conversion, 575 conversion, 599 conversion. Okay. R63. Any progress on the R63 front?
1:12:03 Speaker 03 No, there is literally one for sale and it's pewter and I don't want pewter.
1:12:08 Doug DeMuro? No, you don't. I have.
1:12:09 Speaker 03 Been there, done that.
1:12:11 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:12:11 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:12 Doug DeMuro? You didn't, you didn't never see my pewter station, Mike, and you should have. Would have turned you off pewter even more.
1:12:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:17 Doug DeMuro? Ford Ranger Splash Flareside. Go to the site.
1:12:20 Speaker 03 Ideally in yellow. Yeah, but the red looked pretty good.
1:12:23 Doug DeMuro? Type in Ranger Splash.
1:12:24 Speaker 03 This is another one of those nostalgic.
1:12:27 Doug DeMuro? Here. That's it.
1:12:28 Speaker 03 Yeah, that white one's pretty good, although again, yellow or red ideally. Well, that was in La Jolla.
1:12:32 Doug DeMuro? Yeah.
1:12:33 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
1:12:34 Doug DeMuro? This is a two-wheel drive. You could have been there, dude.
1:12:36 Speaker 03 I know.
1:12:37 Doug DeMuro? This is a terrible driving experience.
1:12:39 Speaker 03 I'm sure.
1:12:40 Doug DeMuro? I mean, go to the interior. You remember this interior?
1:12:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, it was a Ford Explorer 91 and 94.
1:12:45 Doug DeMuro? Yep.
1:12:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:12:46 Doug DeMuro? Anytime I see, it's funny because so many cars, the outside, you look, oh, okay. And then you look at the interior and it's like, I know what that feels like. I know what that, I know what that smells like. I don't want anything to do with that car.
1:12:56 Speaker 03 I would love to get one, like, it doesn't have to be a Flareside or a Splash because I don't want to like ruin an important car. But I would like to get a pickup one day that's like body dropped and can lay frame. Shaved door handles, like just go full-blown like Mini Truck Nationals circa 2004.
1:13:13 Doug DeMuro? God. All right, folks, uh, this being the Christmas episode, I want to stop a little early today because we received some gifts, some holiday gifts from, from some viewers.
1:13:23 Speaker 03 Yes, we did.
1:13:24 Doug DeMuro? Ken, would you like to show us what people have sent us? And by the way, if you're at home and you're thinking you want to send us something, don't. Instead, send us an email to [email protected] . That's S.E.A.N. [email protected] .
1:13:38 Speaker 04 All right, we have several gifts. So one of them is a Nissan Armada Cologne.
1:13:43 Doug DeMuro? You're kidding.
1:13:44 Speaker 04 Now, I'm guessing that that smells like.
1:13:48 Doug DeMuro? Uber.
1:13:50 Speaker 03 Like someone's trying to cover up menthol smell.
1:13:52 Speaker 04 I was gonna say.
1:13:52 Doug DeMuro? You've got to be kidding.
1:13:54 Speaker 04 It smells like bad financial decisions and, uh, yeah, and going way too fast on the highway. But yeah, fascinating. Uh, I, how green was this at Nissan? They're that desperate to?
1:14:04 Doug DeMuro? This must have been.
1:14:05 Speaker 03 Is this new or old?
1:14:06 Speaker 04 Hard to tell. It's still shrink wrap.
1:14:07 Doug DeMuro? All right, Nick. Huh? Try it. No, we're not do- I'm not taking out a box, you kidding? This is, this is high qua- this is high-quality stuff.
1:14:15 Speaker 03 I'll try it if it's Thalat-free.
1:14:17 Doug DeMuro? Nick, given that this is the Nissan Armada, what are the three languages on the bottom that it's been, that the warning has been translated into?
1:14:25 Speaker 03 All Eastern European.
1:14:29 Speaker 03 Beyond that, I don't know. Polish?
1:14:32 Doug DeMuro? No, come on.
1:14:32 Speaker 03 Czech?
1:14:33 Doug DeMuro? Where is the Armada the most popular?
1:14:36 Speaker 03 Well, I assume Japan, because it's a Japanese vehicle.
1:14:38 Doug DeMuro? The first language on here is Arabic.
1:14:40 Speaker 03 Arabic? Okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, Sandun.
1:14:43 Doug DeMuro? And then it's French and English. Um, this is the greatest gift we've ever been given. Nissan Armada cologne, this is the kind of thing they give you at press launches. Folks, I don't go to automotive press launches anymore, but my biggest regret not going to the press launches is,
1:14:57 Doug DeMuro? that I don't get gifts anymore. They used to give me the worst gifts you could imagine, and I lo- I've saved them all, and I have some wild gifts. Like my Nissan Z sushi knife, remember that?
1:15:09 Speaker 04 Oh, that's a good one. That's a really good one. But although you don't get those gifts anymore, we do have more gifts that people have sent us.
1:15:15 Doug DeMuro? What's this one?
1:15:16 Speaker 04 This one, I don't know. Maybe these are spiders. I have no idea what these are, but they sent us a little card as well.
1:15:21 Speaker 03 In a baggie?
1:15:22 Speaker 04 Uh, I will let you read it.
1:15:23 Speaker 03 This is gonna, it's like Anthrax.
1:15:24 Doug DeMuro? Anthrax in here. Dear Doug, uh, Cannon and Filippo and Crazy Nick, I hope you enjoy opening the finest collection of 20-year-old authentic imported cars direct from Albania. Oh my god.
1:15:38 Speaker 03 Not Anthrax.
1:15:40 Speaker 04 And it comes with a s-
1:15:41 Doug DeMuro? Oh, sport, crossblade. No way!
1:15:45 Speaker 04 This is, this is- Let me have one.
1:15:46 Doug DeMuro? This one has, uh, Italian plates on it.
1:15:49 Speaker 04 That one, those are license plates for the-
1:15:50 Speaker 03 And then here's a non-crossblade.
1:15:51 Doug DeMuro? You're kidding. Some guy, okay, wait, this came from Jason in Albania, and they're cars in eggs, and they're, this one is fake.
1:16:00 Speaker 03 Disassembled.
1:16:00 Doug DeMuro? Oh my god, that one's broken apart. This is the greatest gift I've ever seen.
1:16:05 Speaker 04 The crossblade is the coolest.
1:16:07 Doug DeMuro? Jason is actually a doctor in Farmington, Utah. Oh, oh, this is a Smart, uh, uh, uh, 4-4. God, Filippo's gonna go nuts.
1:16:15 Speaker 03 That weird CarShawn ones. The Renault Smart Spider?
1:16:18 Doug DeMuro? Let me see.
1:16:19 Speaker 04 Is that a Smart Spider?
1:16:20 Doug DeMuro? That's a Smart.
1:16:21 Speaker 03 That's a Smart Roadster.
1:16:22 Doug DeMuro? Okay.
1:16:23 Speaker 03 Close enough.
1:16:23 Doug DeMuro? They're easily assemblable, too. This is amazing. This is the greatest gift that anyone's ever given me, even better than the cologne. Nick, are you seeing this?
1:16:32 Speaker 04 You see, you don't get press launches, but you're not getting this stuff at press launches.
1:16:35 Doug DeMuro? This is one of those, um, what was this thing called?
1:16:37 Speaker 03 If Kenan and I stick for, stick with YouTube for another 10, 12 years, we might be getting stuff like this.
1:16:41 Doug DeMuro? They're sending this to all of us. He says, "Dear Doug, Kenan, Filippo, and Crazy Nick," and he spelled all of our names right, which no one has ever...
1:16:48 Speaker 04 No one does that. Thank you very much. That's very kind of you. That's a detail that's often missed.
1:16:52 Doug DeMuro? This is, I know, Filippo's name has never been spelled correctly.
1:16:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, I mean...
1:16:56 Doug DeMuro? Don't open! My god, Nick, this was gonna go in my press launch collection!
1:16:59 Speaker 03 Can we, can we just show how, like, this is pretty nice?
1:17:03 Speaker 04 Alright, Nick, alright, you've, since you've opened it, let's spray a little bit. Don't, not on me, on your wrist, on your wrist, on your wrist! What are you doing? Oh, he's just embracing it.
1:17:12 Speaker 03 That's how you are supposed to do it.
1:17:13 Doug DeMuro? Well, if you like how it smells.
1:17:15 Speaker 04 If you like how it smells, I mean, it's feeling like an Armada.
1:17:18 Doug DeMuro? These are the greatest things I have ever been given. Dude, I'm taking this smart crossblade home. This is so cool.
1:17:23 Speaker 04 That's right, you can't smell.
1:17:23 Speaker 03 I can't smell yet.
1:17:24 Speaker 04 I forgot.
1:17:25 Doug DeMuro? Do you see the smart crossblade, human people? No.
1:17:28 Speaker 04 Not great.
1:17:28 Doug DeMuro? It's too small. And you know what? That's what makes it so great. These, you agree, these are the greatest gifts you've ever been given.
1:17:33 Speaker 04 Well...
1:17:34 Speaker 03 Well, I know we got more time.
1:17:35 Speaker 04 It doesn't end there.
1:17:36 Doug DeMuro? Wait, hang on, hang on. There's an explanation for these gifts.
1:17:38 Speaker 03 Also, I gave you part of a Whistlin' Diesel's G-Wagon.
1:17:41 Doug DeMuro? Magic Kinder, they're Kinder Eggs with smart cars in them.
1:17:44 Speaker 04 Let's figure, this one is for you specifically. This is a bath mat.
1:17:48 Doug DeMuro? A bath mat?
1:17:49 Speaker 04 It's shaped like what appears to be a low-body Countach.
1:17:52 Doug DeMuro? It's my Countach. You ever seen it?
1:17:54 Speaker 04 It looks low-bodied to me.
1:17:55 Doug DeMuro? No, no, take, pick it up. It's mine. Pick it up on that site.
1:17:58 Speaker 03 This'll be good when you get out of your car wearing only socks.
1:18:00 Doug DeMuro? This is a 5-liter. That's so true.
1:18:01 Speaker 03 Put it out, and then you can clean your socks off before you enter.
1:18:04 Doug DeMuro? That's such a great point. This is really good. Show the...
1:18:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, this is...
1:18:07 Speaker 03 That is legit.
1:18:08 Doug DeMuro? This is not a low-body. Why are you just low-body? This is exactly my car.
1:18:10 Speaker 04 I don't know, it looks a little low.
1:18:11 Doug DeMuro? White, black, white wheels.
1:18:13 Speaker 04 It's very cool.
1:18:14 Doug DeMuro? Very.
1:18:14 Speaker 04 It's very soft, too. Very fluffy, yeah.
1:18:17 Doug DeMuro? We gonna use it in our bath mat, bathroom here in the office?
1:18:19 Speaker 04 You know what? We might, actually. But there's one more, and this one is probably the most impressive.
1:18:25 Doug DeMuro? This is the most impressive.
1:18:26 Speaker 04 I have to be very careful.
1:18:27 Doug DeMuro? I want a crossblade again? I'll put it back on the list.
1:18:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:18:31 Speaker 04 This is an F40 LM.
1:18:34 Doug DeMuro? This is an F40 LM.
1:18:35 Speaker 04 This was made by a viewer in New York. And he put this together completely out of cardboard and he did it completely himself. There's nothing like that was bought and put on here. He made everything himself from like the calipers to the wheels to the engine compartment.
1:18:48 Doug DeMuro? Because we cannot have an F40, we have this instead.
1:18:51 Speaker 04 We have this F40 LM, which is so cool. I have a very specific honorary place I'd like to put it in our office, but this is really neat.
1:18:59 Doug DeMuro? Is that gonna go behind the pod studio?
1:19:01 Speaker 04 Well, it's rooms getting tight back there. I might be able to squeeze it in.
1:19:03 Doug DeMuro? We have some of the most bizarre and interesting car stuff that has ever existed. Where did we get that piston?
1:19:09 Speaker 04 That was from, hold on, this one.
1:19:13 Speaker 04 This is from, oh.
1:19:17 Speaker 04 The car fits very difficult here. This is from one of our employees named Colton. It's from an engine that he blew up. And so there's, that is a twisted connecting rod. That's a lot of force.
1:19:28 Doug DeMuro? That is a lot of force.
1:19:29 Speaker 04 I mean, and there's where the valve met the piston. I mean, that's a tough loss.
1:19:36 Speaker 04 I mean, even when you money shifted, you didn't do this.
1:19:38 Speaker 03 Nope. I just fried some piston rings.
1:19:41 Speaker 04 Not this bad.
1:19:42 Speaker 03 Cause I didn't money shift it. It was some detonating due to a faulty tune.
1:19:48 Speaker 04 Right.
1:19:48 Speaker 03 Had I money shifted, it would have been a lot harder to rebuild.
1:19:51 Doug DeMuro? Uh, these are all great gifts. We love all the weird car stuff we have here. Obviously the greatest gift we've ever been given is each other. Um, on this, on this holiday season and also this cross plate. Now this F40 is very cool. You have a place for it. It will live in our office.
1:20:04 Speaker 04 It will live in our office with tremendous honor. It is really cool.
1:20:07 Doug DeMuro? Again, if you want to send us gifts, the, the address to send them is [email protected] . S E A N at carsandbids.com. That's where you send them to. Uh, this was our podcast with questions. Nick, do you have any parting thoughts?
1:20:22 Speaker 03 No, I was just wondering what automotive gifts I've given or received that were good. It's very hard to buy and, and gift for car.
1:20:29 Doug DeMuro? You gave us my very favorite gift on this podcast. Do you remember what it was?
1:20:33 Speaker 03 The G-Wagon?
1:20:34 Doug DeMuro? Whistlin Diesel.
1:20:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:20:35 Doug DeMuro? Yep. Whistlin Diesel, known taxi Vader. Just kidding. Free Whistlin. There it is. He destroyed a G-Wagon, which I'm sure was titled in Montana. And, uh, we have a portion of it right here.
1:20:48 Speaker 04 Right.
1:20:49 Doug DeMuro? And it's, obviously I'm a huge Whistlin fan, as I've mentioned many times in the pod. Which by the way, whenever I say it, the amount of people in the comments were like, I lost all respect for Doug.
1:21:00 Doug DeMuro? Yikes. Anyway, this was a gift that you gave us and it's amazing.
1:21:04 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:21:05 Speaker 03 We've kind of had a little bit of a truce inside of the group on giving each other gifts because everyone, one, buys everything they want, but two, I think, just a very difficult crowd. The gift card we got for you, the one year, so that you could get around your budget cap on maintenance is a good one.
1:21:21 Speaker 04 This year it works.
1:21:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
1:21:23 Doug DeMuro? You know how else he got around that? He got a second card and just spent tons of money on that instead.
1:21:28 Speaker 03 Maybe he's like, pad the invoice on this one by a grand and then you can just...
1:21:32 Doug DeMuro? And then put it into my other one.
1:21:33 Speaker 04 Hey, I've done a great job sticking to...
1:21:35 Speaker 03 Just write alignment, don't write which cards.
1:21:37 Speaker 04 We'll review in the new year whether I crossed the line or not. I think, was it you that got Sam, it was like cameos of like Parker Nierenski?
1:21:46 Doug DeMuro? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:47 Speaker 04 For his birthday? Do you remember that?
1:21:48 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah. I got Parker, but then I was worried Parker wouldn't get back, so I also got a second cameo from someone.
1:21:53 Doug DeMuro? Ed Bullion, that's right, yeah.
1:21:55 Speaker 03 Is that still a thing?
1:21:57 Speaker 04 No.
1:21:57 Speaker 03 It's still around, but I think it's...
1:21:59 Speaker 04 Not like it was during COVID.
1:22:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:22:01 Speaker 04 It was great. That was a great gift by you.
1:22:02 Doug DeMuro? Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah, Happy New Year's. You know, the Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays thing I never got because there are two holidays. It's even the people who are all Christmasy. It's Christmas and New Year's. That's the holiday.
1:22:13 Speaker 03 No, and Hanukkah.
1:22:14 Doug DeMuro? Well, no, I know, but people are like, "I'm not gonna say anything other than Merry Christmas."
1:22:17 Speaker 04 And Festivus.
1:22:18 Doug DeMuro? But even the Merry Christmas people, New Year's is a holiday that is also a day off at this time. I've never understood that.
1:22:25 Speaker 04 Also, your Happy Holidays...
1:22:26 Doug DeMuro? Happy Holidays even includes Merry Christmas. You understand what I'm saying?
1:22:29 Speaker 04 This is a Larry David level of Festivus.
1:22:31 Doug DeMuro? But you get my point. You get my point. So it's like, "Oh, I'm not gonna say anything with Merry Christmas." Well, you're not wishing me a Happy New Year? You're sitting here, you're not wishing me a Happy New Year?
1:22:38 Speaker 04 Wishing me a bad New Year?
1:22:39 Doug DeMuro? That's, that is some...
1:22:40 Speaker 04 I'm offended.
1:22:41 Doug DeMuro? I'm offended. Goodbye, everyone.
1:22:44 Speaker 04 Goodbye.
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