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1:44 Speaker 01 Hey, y'all. Welcome back to another episode of I Have Some Thoughts, our weekly mini-so series all about pop culture topics, but of course, from a mental health lens. And I am joined today again by Elise. Hey, Elise.
1:56 Speaker 00 Hey, I'm very excited for this one. I think we have some pretty interesting topics. And so, of course, Jay-Z is going to be a hot topic this summer, and what makes him even hotter?
2:10 Speaker 05 Topic is Blue Ivy. She is the star. This past weekend, he performed at Yankee Stadium to celebrate the 30th anniversary of his debut album, Reasonable Doubt, and the whole weekend featured several surprise guests, but most importantly, Blue Ivy Carter joined her father onstage, playing the piano during his performance of Feeling It. And I think people were really excited because it spoke so much to his legacy, her talent, and watching the next generation step into their own while honoring the accomplishments of those who came before them. And I've been thinking about what does it mean to pass something meaningful from one generation to the other? And how do you do that?
2:49 Speaker 05 And so my question for you is, when you grow up with such successful parents or even strong family expectations, how can you embrace that legacy without feeling defined by it? Or how many people might feel trapped by it?
3:04 Speaker 01 Hmm. Yeah, I think that that is an important caveat, right? Like, do you feel defined by it, trapped by it, like pressure to follow in the footsteps? I also say this as somebody who was at the concert. Thank goodness for the streamers. I was not at the concert, but I was up on TikTok paying attention to the Extra Endings concert last night. So thank y'all for going live and letting us have the experience for those of us who could not be there. But I do think that one of the things that I find most impressive in the way that we hear Jay-Z and Beyonce talk about Blue Ivy and her gifts is that it does feel very much led by her, right? And when you have parents who are Jay-Z and Beyonce, right, like no two bigger names, I think that there can be some pressure to kind of like, oh, what is going to be my artistic thing? And am I good enough to follow in these footsteps?
3:49 Speaker 01 And it really feels like they have let her kind of follow the things that have been most interesting to her, right? We've seen her make her debut as a part of the dance squad. Jay-Z earlier this year talked about like her piano skills and how he really feels like she's a great piano player, but she doesn't really want to take any formal lessons, right? And so I really feel like they are letting her kind of carve out her own lane, which I think is important, especially when she is growing up in their shadow. And I think for the rest of us, like even for my own kids, I'm like, oh, you guys should start a podcast, right? Like, we could do a kids podcast.
4:24 Speaker 01 But that's not something that they are super interested in. Now, they are more interested in being like YouTubers and like doing book reviews. And they really like watching other people play video games, which I guess is a big thing for kids and like media stuff. But exposing them to the things I think is more important than even forcing them to pursue any kind of path. And I think that that is really the key here is like, how many different things can we expose our kids to, to spark their curiosity and their imagination?
4:51 Speaker 05 I have another question about nepotism. And I'm curious how we can think and how you think about nepotism for the Black community, especially someone like Blue Ivy, who has genuinely developed a talent and work ethic and risen to the occasion to be able to play piano onstage with her dad. But I think people have some sticky and icky reactions and thoughts to nepotism. And so how can we navigate passing a legacy on, passing our resources on and our gifts on, and maybe not feeling guilt about it?
5:25 Speaker 01 You know, I find it interesting because I feel like the conversation around nepotism only took a turn when Black folks started being able to participate in nepotism, right? Like historically, nepotism was not really something we could participate in because there weren't as many resources as much wealth to even pass on. And I think historically nepotism has been about affording people opportunities when they actually weren't prepared for it, right? I inherited my daddy's law firm, even though like I struggled in high school English, right? Like that, I think, is the uglier side of nepotism. But I don't think that there's anything wrong with working hard and then leaving something for your kids to walk into and giving them opportunities, especially when they're prepared for it, right?
6:08 Speaker 01 And I think that is something that Black folks do, right? Is that we know we often are teaching ourselves and teaching our kids to work twice as hard, right? And so I don't think that there are as many cases of Black kids walking into something from a nepotism kind of standpoint and not being prepared, right? And I think we've seen that with Blue Ivy. She wasn't able to get on the stage if she hadn't practiced and like done all the things that she needed. Needed to do to kind of participate in like perform with the other dancers. And so I think deprecism is totally okay in my book, especially if the kids are actually prepared for it.
6:42 Speaker 05 So our next topic is the unfortunate passing of Nolan Wells. A couple of weeks ago, an 18 year old Nolan Xavier Wells, a black teenager disappeared after taking a 4th of July boat trip to Mississippi's Gulf Coast with a group of white friends. Two days later, his body was found along the shoreline. While authorities have suggested he may have accidentally drowned after being left on the island, both the public and the Wells family have questioned that account, citing conflicting stories and inconsistencies surrounding the events leading up to his death. The case has also sparked broader conversations about trust,
7:25 Speaker 05 safety, and the unique concerns that I think many black families navigate when their children are in predominantly white spaces. How do black families navigate the balance between encouraging cross-cultural friendships and preparing children for the realities of race and race relations? And I think my more specific question is, many black parents want their children to build meaningful friendships across different backgrounds that are diverse. And while they also want to prepare them for the realities of bias, how do you strike that balance?
8:00 Speaker 01 Yeah, this is something that has been sitting with me very difficult, as you can imagine, right? Like, I'm also the mom of two black boys. And so anytime there is a story like this, it really hits home in a very particular kind of way. And so I'm sending so much love to Nolan's family in this devastating time, because this is just such a difficult conversation to have. It is so, so incredibly tragic. And I think the thing that makes it even more, the highlight of it is that this is not like an isolated story, right? And so I think so many black parents are struggling in similar ways when you continue to see this kind of pattern of a black child who is with a group of friends that don't look like them, and then some- Something ends up happening to the black child, right?
8:44 Speaker 01 Especially when water is involved. And I'm also somebody who's incredibly anxious about water. It just feels like I hear so many horror stories about things that happen when water is involved. And so I think that you have to take extra precautions to make sure who kids are with. And that is something that I have struggled with and my husband in struggle with in terms of thinking about, okay, how do we raise kids to be in a culture that is diverse, right? And that they are not going to necessarily only have friends that look like them, but also preparing them for the very real realities of the fact that they are black boys, becoming black men in America, in this world, in a world that will not be kind to them, that will not always look after them in the ways that we would hope.
9:28 Speaker 01 And it is just, it's really difficult. And I think a part of it has to start with what kinds of conversations are we having with parents who are not black parents, right? Like, I think that there are conversations we have with black parents in terms of always vetting, right? Like, do I know the people that my child is spending time with? Have I spent time with them? Have I spent time in their home? Have they spent time in my home? Like, how well do I know these people? But I think that there is another layer of conversation that has to happen when we are talking about white parents, when there is such a history, right? And I think anybody who is a parent who denies this history is probably not somebody that you want in your friendship circle and not somebody who you want your child spending time with. Because that, to me, is them ignoring the realities of the situation that has sadly happened too many times.
10:13 Speaker 01 And so I think a prerequisite for raising kids with different kinds of friends is, can you have these difficult conversations around, look, these are the things that are happening. What kinds of messages are you teaching your kids around? How do they keep all of their friends safe, right? Like, what kinds of maybe more passive kinds of things that you don't think are racism, but actually are racist kinds of comments? Are those kinds of things being said in your home? Like, you have to be able to have those kinds of conversations, because otherwise, that means that I can't trust you to keep my child safe, right? And so I think we cannot shy away from those kinds of conversations. And I think that that has to happen. You have to be able to have those kinds of conversations with white parents
10:56 Speaker 01 if you are going to kind of encourage this friendship with people who maybe don't look like you.
11:01 Speaker 05 Thank you for that. And I think to push it a little further and not necessarily to victim blame, because there is nothing you can do in a situation like this when your child is on a trip and it's not in your control. But how can Black parents, and really all parents, have conversations with their children about recognizing whether a friendship or an environment is emotionally and physically safe, considering race, but also outside of the context of race?
11:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, this is such an important question. I really appreciate the way you said that, because I think like one of the more insidious parts of racism is that it is always putting the bonus on us to try to figure out how do we prevent tragedies like this, right? And as you stated, there is nothing that we as Black people can do to. I mean, well, there are some things, you know, in terms of like vetting and that kind of thing, but like, we can't stop people from being racist and being violent against us because we are Black, right? Like, that is not within our power to do. But it often feels like we are always trying to like game plan and like circumvent these situations when really it should not be our job to do that. It definitely is on white parents and white kids to have these conversations and make sure they are not doing things that put people in danger. But I do think that there is an important point around just like,
12:14 Speaker 01 how are we teaching our kids to vet friendships, right? So I think making sure that you're paying attention to like how you feel in circles of people, right? Like, are you surrounding yourself with people who encourage everybody and like, really celebrate your strengths and take care of you? Or are you spending time with people who like put other people down? Or the only way that they feel like they can be on top is if they make fun of other people or exclude other people from a circle, right? Like, are you actually participating in an environment that is inclusive? I think is one thing to teach our kids to do. Also, to make sure that there are things, safety-wise, especially if water is involved, right? So that may mean being extra cautious around like if alcohol is involved.
12:57 Speaker 01 And do you get in a car? Or do you get on a boat with somebody who maybe has been drinking? Are there other adults present, right? I think sometimes, you know, of course, there is a balance of like wanting kids to do their own thing. And kind of be independent, but I think that there are also circumstances where more adult people need to be involved. And so being able to get a situation of like, who's going to be there? Is there going to be somebody responsible? Do I, if I'm on water, do I have on a life jacket? Like, what kinds of things are a part of the environment to make sure that people are safe? I think is also something. And also really talking with your kids about if there's ever a situation where you feel like you don't feel comfortable, or you feel like things are going
13:42 Speaker 01 haywire and you don't know what to say, you can always call me, right? And so allowing them to know and really putting a system into place where they know, hey, like, you're not going to get in trouble because you called me at four o'clock in the morning because you didn't feel comfortable in the situation. And so I think putting something like that in place is also really important. So their kids know that they don't have to always problem solve really difficult situations by themselves. They also have a support system that will be there to help them with that.
14:08 Speaker 05 Thank you for that. I feel like that was great advice. I do think I can remember being a teenager and being really scared to like, call my parents when something went wrong. And then I had to like, step back, be like, well, who else is going to get me out of this mess? And so I think that's a good reminder and a good relationship to try to cultivate, you know, at the end of the day, my safety or their safety is the top priority. And that's something I would always have to remember.
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17:36 Speaker 05 Now, we couldn't end this mini episode without talking about Love Island, Dr.
17:43 Speaker 05 Love Island, season eight is over and the islanders are returning to a completely different digital reality than the one they left. Many of them have spent weeks disconnected from social media and are now coming back to thousands of comments, viral clips, attention from brands, public opinions and criticism across TikTok threads, X, Instagram, you name it. During last night's finale, the winner, Trinity, got very emotional as she reflected on winning, sharing that, where she comes from. People don't often get opportunities like this and experience that level of success or quote unquote, beat the odds in this way. And I think few people in their real lives will fully understand what it's like to be
18:27 Speaker 05 filmed constantly, really become famous overnight or over quote unquote, six weeks, and then return home to an overwhelming amount of praise, scrutiny and unsolicited feedback. How do you even begin to reconnect with ordinary life when both your public profile and your understanding of what happened is changing and has changed? And so for you, Dr. Joy, how would you advise someone to reintegrate after being disconnected from social media and then returning to an onslaught of attention, criticism, brand interest and public commentary?
19:02 Speaker 01 Whew, this feels so tough and such a like, you know, new age kind of situation, right? Like even though we've had reality TV for some time, right? If you think about like the early days of the real world, even that, I think was very different just because we are living in a very different time and we know that there tends to be like many more lucrative kinds of opportunities for people, especially on Love Island, right? When there's so much attention to these shows every summer. And so I think that it is something that does need to be paid attention to. And I do hope that there is some kind of reintegration process and protocol, I hope, for people coming off the island. Because it is very difficult, right? And so I think one of the most important things is to not like jump completely headfirst into it.
19:46 Speaker 01 Like, I know people are gonna be anxious to have their phones and like see what's happening. But I think really giving yourself some time and maybe one of the things that I have found interesting is that it seems like with these later seasons of Love Island, they've had friends controlling their socials. And, you know, kind of still keeping things, I don't know if that's happened this season because I tapped out. But I do think kind of having somebody to kind of give you a consensus of, okay, here's generally what people have been saying about you, right? Like maybe the good, the bad and the ugly, so that you have a little bit of a preparation before you kind of just dive into it yourself. But also not feeling the need to look through every comment that criticizes you, right? Or the ones that praise you, right? Like having a more measured approach to what have people been saying?
20:31 Speaker 01 I think could be a much better re-entry kind of strategy than trying to figure out everything that people have said. So maybe you just get a friend who recaps it for you. I also think working with a therapist kind of immediately following something like this could be really helpful because it is going to be a completely different world. This level of isolation is not necessarily normal. And so coming back and then as we talked about, being met with all of these opportunities and all of this commentary and all of this criticism and six weeks ago, you were able to go to your grocery store and not be bombarded. And now that may likely not be the case, right? And so working with a therapist, I think that really helps to ground you in, okay, this is what this new situation could be like.
21:16 Speaker 01 And having this person to kind of help you to walk through some of these newfound changes, I think could be really helpful. I think Alandria has done an excellent job of staying grounded, kind of post her Love Island success last year. And I think a large part of that is that she has, it seems, remained very connected to her circle of friends who she had before she entered Love Island, right? So her girls from college and they were the ones who were running her social, right? And so it seems like she stayed really connected to them and it feels like that has given her a level. Of levity and groundedness that I think is really important to be able to navigate all of these transitions that happen post coming out of the villa.
21:57 Speaker 05 Yeah, I agree. I think people make this comment like, don't let fame get to your head. And it's a natural thing like, duh, you became famous. It's in your head. It's actually your reality. But I think when you hold that I had a reality before this and that reality is just as valid, just as nurturing, the islanders and the people on other shows where it's this contained experience, seeing them try to maintain a sense of normalcy that way, I think has been really great for them from my vantage point.
22:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, I agree.
22:33 Speaker 05 And my last question is, when you have gone through an experience that very few people can truly relate to, what can help you process it and reconnect with your life outside of that experience? Like, yeah, because it can be weird. Like, oh, I'm gonna go talk to my old friends, but ooh, they don't get it. They weren't on the island for six weeks. And I think people experience this after studying abroad or even going to school across the country or in another country, all those different things, too.
23:00 Speaker 01 Mm hmm. Yeah. And this is where I think having continuing relationships, maybe with the people who you shared this experience with, if those are healthy for you, continuing those relationships can be good because you do have this shared history, right? There is nobody else, even previous seasons don't have the experience that you had, right? And I think we see a lot of them moving in together and they do seem to spend a significant amount of time together post villa. And so I think if those relationships feel healthy, then continuing those relationships can be a really good thing so that you don't feel like, oh, nobody else really understands this experience. But also connecting with other people who have had maybe this reality TV kind of experience. So maybe that is previous seasons, maybe those are people from other shows, right? Because even if it wasn't like the same experience,
23:46 Speaker 01 it was similar enough that you will get some understanding and there will be some shared language that I think even people who weren't on your particular season of a show can really relate to you and you don't feel so isolated and kind of out on in the wild by yourself with those experiences.
24:03 Speaker 05 I love that. Yeah, I think Amaya, the winner of season seven, put out a little message just saying, "Take time before you do all the interviews and all of those things." I like it when I see people on reality TV kind of linking up and becoming friends. I'm like, "We don't know what they've been through." And I think having that network of support from when the Love Island people link up with Love is Blind people, link up with the Challenge people, my, "Oh, this is so cute."
24:28 Speaker 01 All of the worlds are converging.
24:29 Speaker 05 I know.
24:30 Speaker 01 So I mentioned that I tapped out, but I know that you did not tap out. And so I want to hear kind of like your general ideas about this season. Were you pleased with the winner? Were you surprised? Like, what are you feeling?
24:42 Speaker 05 I was pleased with the winner. I loved Bryce and Trinity. I think from the beginning, there were a lot of comments around like, "Oh, they're faking it." And I do think we don't see a lot of interracial couples on television, on reality TV. And yeah, a guy who lives in, what, Silver Lake, dating a girl from Virginia? Like, that's an odd pairing. Like, I think it's okay to say that. But I think a lot of maybe the uncomfortableness that people like detected in them was the newness of that type of relationship. And so to see them kind of grow into comfortability on the last episode, they said "I love you" to each other. I was like, "Wow, this is really, this is so cute." And so it's weird, you know, it's a little Truman Show-ish,
25:26 Speaker 05 but having this container where two really different people can meet and find love, I actually find that to be so beautiful. And so I was really rooting for them. And I think a lot of the comments that you see about Trinity and Bryce, and then you also maybe saw it about like Nick and Alandria, or even the second place winners, Carl and Aya. I think sometimes people have, need to question their assumptions. Why is it out of like the realm that like this black woman could be loved in a way that you haven't seen before? And so I do think that was the question a lot of people were working through. "Oh, they're scamming." And I'm like, "Well, why do you think they're scamming? They're a new couple, like everyone else. Is it crazy that they could just like each other?"
26:08 Speaker 05 But outside of that, I think it's always really beautiful to see the female friendships on the show. Like, yes, it is Love Island. Yes, you're there to find love. But I also think the female friendships and the fourth and the third place winners, Melanie and Sincere and Zach and Kada, who America or a lot of the voters did not like Sincere rightfully, did not like Zach rightfully. And I think it speaks to how interconnected your like female relationships are with your romantic relationships. Those two couples would have not made it to the final four. People did not like the women in the relationships and they weren't enthralled by the four women and their relationship with
26:50 Speaker 05 each other. And so I thought it was just very interesting to see people like, well, we don't even like this couple. And I'm like, well, yeah, a lot of times people don't like your partner. That can isolate you socially. It sucks. But if people do like one partner, it's like, okay, we just don't deal with him. And I think that's what we got with the bottom two. But I really enjoyed this season. I thought it was very different from last season. Last season was more like the real world to me than Love Island, although we got some couples. This season, it was very interesting. I think, well, one, there was a producer who passed away, which was very sad. And so as a producer myself, I'm like, okay, I can see them are picking up on the ways in which they're working through that challenge. I
27:32 Speaker 05 also thought it was really interesting because this is the eighth season and season six is where people had this crazy fame. And I don't fault the islanders for now having a different understanding of the show because they've probably seen it and they've seen the fame attached to it. And I mean, anyone on who's going on the show is looking for something. And so seeing how production may be navigated, changing, I don't want to say the rules of the show because I know people are a little upset about that, but changing the nature of the show to give the islanders a fresh experience, to shake things up for the audience. Because you're going into a situation that people now know the rules and codes for. And so I thought that was very interesting as well. But we're far, it's far from over. It's far. The reunion is August 30th. So I'm like, okay.
28:17 Speaker 05 We have to wait like a month and a half.
28:19 Speaker 01 Oh, wow.
28:20 Speaker 05 But they're gonna be on everyone's show, everyone's podcast. I'm gonna mince my words about which the ones they shouldn't go on. But it's interesting just to see like how people handle this newfound fame, which is really hard. But also, I think the most interesting thing is, are they gonna choose to watch it back? And take like their experience for what it is? Because I do think people start to like form opinions that in a negative sentiment of fellow islanders once they watch the show and take in the criticism. And so I think that's always interesting to see unravel over the next couple of months.
28:57 Speaker 01 Oh, so you still have a long journey of Love Island.
29:00 Speaker 05 Yeah.
29:00 Speaker 01 To kind of keep you busy for this summer. Something that you said that I also, of course, having written the book Sisterhood Heels, am also most important or most kind of like drawn to like, well, what's happening with the girls in the house? Right? And that's the show that I really want to see. Can we get a sisterhood island? Like, I don't know what the like prize would be or like what would be your purpose for that?
29:20 Speaker 05 Like, we can come together.
29:23 Speaker 01 Call us, Andy. We have some ideas about a show.
29:26 Speaker 05 And do something. To be honest, last year, we saw Sisterhood disband after the curtains closed. This year, my prediction is I don't think that will happen. I think one of the most beautiful moments of the show was like Family Day. And Anaya's mom is like, hey, you're not being truthful with your friend about her relationship. And she went and apologized. And Melanie was like, yeah, it's very confusing to have your friend say one thing and then say another. And so then one friend is saying, oh, it's a situationship. And the other is like, I don't see that for my relationship. And so to see them navigate conflict in that way. And a lot of times come out on the other side positively. I thought that was really inspiring because being someone who has been there, telling your friend about their romantic relationship, that's hard. You don't know how to navigate that.
30:11 Speaker 05 And then only knowing sort of like five and a half weeks.
30:14 Speaker 01 Right.
30:15 Speaker 05 Even harder. And so I think kudos to all the women on the island, but especially the remaining four to the way in which they navigated conflict. I thought it was really beautiful to see.
30:26 Speaker 01 All right. So I'm also like you, like, I want to see the like the fallout post Villa. So I was not paying attention during the season, but I definitely will be paying attention now to kind of see what's happening post Villa life.
30:39 Speaker 05 Yeah.
30:39 Speaker 01 So thank you for those topics, Elise, and thank you for indulging us with your Love Island thoughts. Like I said, I definitely wanted to. Make sure you had an opportunity to talk about that because I know that's one of your favorite things of the summer.
30:50 Speaker 05 Yes. It's like my birthday in Love Island, they like, it starts at the same time. I'm like, thank you, God.
30:58 Speaker 01 Ah, it's your season. It's your season. Well, thank you so much for those. And if you are paying attention to things in your world and your algorithm on your Forbes page that you want us to weigh in on, please send those to us at therapyforblackgirls.com/mailbox. And until next time, take good care.
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