Session 88: Owen Thiele

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  You may recognize him from literally everything. He has a podcast called In Your Dreams. He is the star of the hit TV show Adults on FX. He also is on Overcompensating, the hit show on Amazon Prime. He is literally on everything. He made a cameo in Too Much on Netflix, if you haven't seen. He is the moment. And tonight we have on Owen Thiel, who is just as lovely as he seems. I'm so happy that he came here. It was so much fun and so funny and I hope you guys love it. I'm recording this before Peyton and Julia leave, but I guess that they're gone now, right? It's been a week without them. That's fucking crazy.

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  Okay, well, on a happier note, Owen Thiel is on tonight. I hope you guys love it. It's amazing and Owen, I love you. To submit Tell Me What's Wrong, go to pastapuss.com, click Tell Me What's Wrong and submit a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Love you pussies, enjoy the episode.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapists. Today we have on a dear friend, talented actor, comedian and podcast host, Owen Thiel.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  Wait, I love that.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  You know what? You know what? I knew I ate too.

• 1:53Speaker 02

  Wait, that was one take. Do you know how many times I have to do mine?

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  What do you mean?

• 1:58Speaker 02

  Like when I introduce somebody, it takes a long time. It's really embarrassing.

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  I've had to redo it before.

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  I had Rita Ora on the podcast, humble brag, and Rita Ora was sitting there and I was like, sorry, excuse me. It's Rita, right? She's like, yes. I'm like, I'm just, I get in my head, I start freaking out.

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  Do you know the song, I Will Never Let You Down?

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  Of cour- wait, is that her big one?

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  Yeah, it was her big one.

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  Yeah, of course.

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  It's the best song of all time.

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  But she also has like Let Me Love You. Is that what it's called or is that Mario? Wait, what is it called?

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  That is Mario.

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  Let me lo- woo, I hear it in my head.

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  Do you ever just hear a song in your head?

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  Yes, I'm hearing one right now because of the show I'm watching. Have you ever seen Mr. Robot?

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  Let you love me. Come on, that's a banger.

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  Timeless.

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  That's huge.

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  That's a timeless one.

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  Wait, you're watching Mr. Robot?

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  I know, everyone's like, you're four years late.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Four years late? I don't even know what that is.

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  Okay, Rami Malek.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  Oh, I imagine I say, who?

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  Him. First of all, did you know he won an Oscar?

• 2:55Speaker 02

  Yes, but I don't know what for, but I know he did. No, no, wait, let me think. I can't tell you.

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  Bohemian Rhapsody.

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  Oh, my God, of course.

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  And I've never even seen Bohemian Rhapsody.

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  I haven't either. I haven't, I haven't, I lie about most things I've watched, though. Do you lie about things?

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  Yes. But not with TV, because TV, I've seen everything.

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  Okay, okay.

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  Except for like, certain things, like.

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  I've seen everything except for most things, actually.

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  Like, I'm just like, I've never seen Righteous Gemstones, and I find myself lying about that frequently.

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  Very, very funny.

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  It's, I've heard it's unbelievable.

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  It's unbeliev- well, okay, I'm lying right now.

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  Are you serious?

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  I watched two episodes, but it's great.

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  I laughed out loud.

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  I laughed out loud. It's amazing.

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  Okay.

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  The cast, brilliant. Me just saying it's complete, things that couldn't go with any show.

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  What's his name is in it? Manny is obsessed with Skylar Grazando.

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  So hot.

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  She's obsessed with him.

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  Hot, hot, hot vibe.

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  Hot vibe. You know who else is?

• 3:48Speaker 02

  Wait, he was also in, um, Santa Clarita Diet.

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  Haven't seen that.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  That's actually the one show I have seen all the way through.

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  Is that where they eat people?

• 3:55Speaker 02

  Yes, it's amazing.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Drew Barrymore?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Yes. Drew Barrymore is wonderful in that show.

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  I totally forgot she, did she still act, or is it just a talk show?

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  I totally forgot she acted. Um, no, she still definitely acts.

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  You did her show, right?

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  No, never, Jake. She would never have me on her show.

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  I thought you did it on the adult press tour.

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  No, I wish. I begged. I literally begged.

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  Did you do any of the daytime?

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  No, my love. The Kelly Clarkson Show said absolutely not. I think Drew was like, if, if we have time, we'll, we'll have him. But they didn't have time, which makes sense. Why would they have me? Have, you've done the Drew Barrymore Show.

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  For what? Like, what would I promote on the show?

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  This, this, your life, your hilarious Instagram, you're, you're, you're so, you're, you're a comedian.

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  Thank you.

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  You can, I believe, okay, I actually believe you can go on talk shows and promote yourself.

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  So do I.

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  Sorry.

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  But they don't do that.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  I know, but why?

• 4:46Speaker 01

  I just want to go through the Jennifer Hudson spirit tunnel once.

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  Awesome, I think we should do it together.

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  I would die.

• 4:52Speaker 02

  What would your song be?

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  What would yours be?

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Owen, like it has to be like, oh, go in, like it has, like, hold on, let me think, hold on. Oh shit, I'm in the studio. Me in the studio, I can't think, I can't think.

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  I would be like, I'm for some reason thinking.

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  Yours would have to be like-

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  Lean on Jake when you're not shamed.

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  Wait, that's great!

• 5:16Speaker 01

  He's at J-Hud. And he's here to talk. That ain't-

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Wait, that was, that, but also I think you would have to say something with puss or pussies.

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  No, Jennifer, I feel like Jennifer would be like, no.

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  Really?

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  Yeah.

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  You think Jennifer Hudson's a pro?

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  Well, also, do you know, you can tell how popular a person is by how many people are at their spirit tunnel?

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  Kiki Palmer's.

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  How many did she have?

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  Never been fuller.

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  Okay, yeah.

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  I'm not kidding, I think they flew people in. It was so many, the line was crazy!

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  This guy, the guy who played Mufasa, his is the most catchy.

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  What's his?

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  Uh, what's his name? Aaron what?

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Oh, he's so hot.

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  Aaron Pierre, that's Mufasa.

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  Oh shit! I love that song.

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  No, it's so catchy!

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  I wish they would record it and put it on Spotify.

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  No, it's so catchy and he looks to die for.

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  He's the hottest person. You know who he's dating?

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  A guy?

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  No.

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  Oh.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  Maybe, wait, maybe this is T and I shouldn't say this. It's totally fine. He's dating Tiana Taylor. They're a couple.

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  That's a hot couple.

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  I thought, oh shit, just sorry. I think it's public. I think it's totally public.

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  It must be. Who did Tiana Taylor used to date or be married to?

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  Okay, Tiana Taylor's one of the hottest people I've ever seen in my entire life.

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  Of all time, that album she did?

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  That album is unbelievable.

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  I used to love that song, Hurry.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  I am so, I have so much body oil on that I'm sticking to your couch.

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  Oh, you do?

• 6:38Speaker 02

  So much. Cyclar.

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  What's Cyclar?

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  Claudia Zaluzki. Claudia, I'm wearing your stuff. Okay, so wait, Claudia sent me a care package, okay? Humble brag. Claudia sends me a care package of all this body oil. Obviously, I'm obsessed with it, it smells amazing, whatever. She sends me this bottle that says glycolic acid on it? And it's like for pigmentation, whatever, it's for your body.

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  It makes you glow. So I've been spraying it on my face.

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  Right.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  I'm obviously breaking out. It's not for your face.

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  You have great skin.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  Well, I got glam for this podcast.

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  Okay.

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  And it's fully, I'm looking in the camera right now, realizing it's so much glam.

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  Wait, you look amazing. You have great cheekbones.

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  It's all fake. It's all contour. I fully am contoured right now for your pod. Do you ever get glam for your own pod?

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  Never.

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  So embarrassing to you.

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  Maybe I should. No, Mary Beth Barone came in glam.

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  But that's good. Like that, yeah. She was also on a press tour for overcompensating. Like, what am I, like?

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  She came in a dress.

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  She looked great.

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  At 11:00 in the morning.

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  I'm kind of in a dress.

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  No.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  I'm in a boat shoe. Wait, what do you think of the boat shoe?

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  I like the boat shoe a lot.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  No, you don't have to lie. You looked at them with disgust and pain. You looked at them with pain in your eyes, Jake.

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  Okay.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  You can't even look at me.

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  My confusion.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  He completely can't. He's, you're avoiding eye contact.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  About the boat shoe is why are the laces on the side?

• 8:00Speaker 02

  Well, that's the boat part of it. No, I don't know. I don't know at all. Um, here's the deal. I, I'm really into a boat shoe recently. Two, three years ago, Emma Chamberlain, who we love dearly, said boat shoes will come back.

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  I feel like she always knows.

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  I, I looked at her and I said, Emma, get a life. And then all of a sudden, three years later, literally on the dot, I'm wearing them.

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  You know what else is really back this summer?

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  What?

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  Polka dots.

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  Polka dots are huge.

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  They're really big.

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  Cami Mendes, the other night, we were at a dinner and she was wearing a polka dot heel.

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  Yep.

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  And I thought polka dots are back.

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  Polka dots are back.

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  Yeah, they are. Are you gonna wear a polka dot shirt?

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  No, never. It wouldn't make me look quite short.

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  I actually have a polka dot shirt in my closet and it's one of the ugliest things in the world. And I fully bought it. I fully spent money.

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  This year?

• 8:43Speaker 02

  Hmm, like a year and a half ago.

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  What's the most ridiculous thing you've ever purchased? Like, you're like, I can't justify this. This is the most ridiculous.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Can it be like a home thing?

• 8:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, it can be anything.

• 8:52Speaker 02

  I bought a foot massager that you like, it's like a big, like, block that you put your feet in.

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  Oh, I wanted one.

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  Massage your feet.

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  Why is that ridiculous? I wouldn't want that.

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  Let me tell you something. You're, you take your feet out and you're like, ow, my feet hurt more. I actually need now a real massage.

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  Right.

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  It doesn't do it. I think it's like moving bones around. It's not, it's not meant, it's not meant for every foot. You know what I mean?

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  A foot massage last night. I will give you her contact.

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  Oh, I thought this was a lover.

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  Oh, my god, please.

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  And by the way, if your lover was giving you a foot massage, I'd be like, absolutely marry him.

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  Right?

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Lock that down immediately.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  And she gave me a foot massage as I watched Mr. Robot for two hours.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  Okay, so you're sitting there watching Mr. Robot, she's rubbing your feet.

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  Yeah.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  Is she talking at all?

• 9:34Speaker 01

  On occasion, she'll be like, the show's really good.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  Oh, because she's kind of watching too? Wait, I'm obsessed. She's like, can you go back an episode? I'm not caught up.

• 9:42Speaker 01

  No, she'll say, she'll say like, Mr. Robot, like, she'll be like, wait, is Mr. Robot back? Like, I thought they were beefing, because she came two days ago too. She comes like four times a week at this, right?

• 9:50Speaker 02

  Wait, to just massage your feet?

• 9:52Speaker 01

  It is life-changing.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  Okay, so in your text with your foot massager, is she, oh, but I just want to know, is she only a foot massager, or she also does back?

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  Back, everything.

• 10:00Speaker 02

  Okay, so this is a masseuse?

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  It's a masseuse!

• 10:03Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, I'm understanding. Sorry, for some reason, I thought this was like, she specializes in like reflexology or something.

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  No, she's great at reflexology.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  I need her. When can she come to me?

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  Today.

• 10:12Speaker 02

  Oh, that's nice. What time does she come?

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  It was like a massage, but just like very, think about the lightest massage you can possibly get.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  See, that's not good. When I go to a massage and they're like, almost tickling me, I'm like, hey, can you use like, your hands?

• 10:22Speaker 01

  Oh, you like deep tissue?

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Deep, deep, deep, deep, deep.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  Do you ever watch videos of knots getting taken out of a person's back?

• 10:29Speaker 02

  No, that sounds amazing.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  Is it, are they screaming in pain?

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  They moan.

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  Is it like sexual moaning?

• 10:38Speaker 01

  No, it's like...

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  It's like, oh!

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  Yeah, like...

• 10:41Speaker 02

  Oh, it's like tennis.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it's like, and you see the knot, you see like the ball, and then they go and like, it goes out.

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  I need that.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  My back is just...

• 10:51Speaker 02

  No, I have the worst posture ever. You have good posture.

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  Do I really?

• 10:54Speaker 02

  I have, you have good posture. By the way, at the dinner, we were at a dinner together, humble brag, we were at a dinner together, and you were sitting across from me, and I literally thought to myself, he has good posture.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  That is the first time I've ever heard that.

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  Because I'm so, all my friends are shorter than me, I'm 6'4", so everyone ultimately...

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  All my friends are taller than me.

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  Everyone has to be shorter than me, it's a legal thing, you know what I mean? So, and everyone has to be taller than you, it's like kind of a legal thing. We're both in this scenario.

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  Yeah, I guess, yeah.

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  So, so now we're, we're, but that's why what makes us so cute to take pictures of together.

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  I know.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Did you see a picture of us at that event?

• 11:26Speaker 01

  I didn't go see any of the photos.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  One of us is really cute. One of us is the worst photo I've ever seen of myself, ever. And if you post it, I will be so mad at you.

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  I'm gonna go look for it. Is it, are we sitting down?

• 11:34Speaker 02

  We're sitting down, I'm like next to you, like my head is like, but like my...

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  I remember taking that photo!

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's really ugly.

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Okay, did you go to gay guy night?

• 11:42Speaker 02

  I did.

• 11:43Speaker 01

  And how was? Kate was DJing, right?

• 11:45Speaker 02

  Kate was DJing. Um, I didn't hear her DJ. I got there too late ultimately.

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  Okay.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  Kate Perland invited us to go to the, uh, gay night at this bar and she was DJing. And I went and, but I missed her DJ set, which was so sad.

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  But how was the night in general?

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  There were a lot of gay guys around. I don't think gay guys like me. This is my fear.

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  I feel the same exact way.

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  So I think I was like, I think I had to leave.

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  I would have left too.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  I left immediately, but it was nice to see them. It's nice to feel a community ultimately if they hate you.

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  Right?

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's nice to know you're a part of it, even though they want nothing to do with you. Yeah, it's tough. They don't, I, I, I'm.

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  They don't like to see other gay men win.

• 12:24Speaker 02

  Is that what it is, you think?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  That's so sad.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  I know.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  A lot of like Benny and Jordan and a few of my best friends are gay and they're so supportive and they're like, I don't know. I just feel like everyone hates me, but I feel that in general. I'm like every single person. Like my mom doesn't text me back. I'm like, okay, she absolutely hates me.

• 12:41Speaker 01

  You got some really best friends, huh?

• 12:43Speaker 02

  My mom and I?

• 12:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  My best friend in the world.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  His mom dropped him off at the Benny dinner.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  Okay, okay. That's embarrassing. Okay, love. No, my, when my, when, when my boyfriend's out of town, my mom will sleep over. But that's not weird. Benny was so weirded out. Remember Benny was like, ew, what?

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  Do you remember the game we were playing?

• 13:01Speaker 02

  Wario? What is it? I don't, I don't, I didn't understand.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  Who is your Wario? Who is your All About Eve? And who is your Tether? Have you seen this movie called Us?

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  Yes. Have you seen it?

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  Jordan Peele.

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  Jordan Peele. I feel like everyone's lying about seeing Us for some reason.

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  No, I've seen Us.

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  I've seen Us too.

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  Cause I love Lupita Nyong'o.

• 13:20Speaker 02

  Okay, I lied. See, this is who I am.

• 13:22Speaker 01

  You've never seen Us?

• 13:22Speaker 02

  No, but I've, I know what it's about, but I've seen Get Out. Get Out, an unbelievable film. Unbelievable.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  You know, I never saw his, um, his alien one.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  What's the alien one?

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  No?

• 13:34Speaker 02

  Nope.

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  Nope.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Oh, with, with Kiki Palmer?

• 13:37Speaker 01

  Yes. I never saw it.

• 13:38Speaker 02

  She's so good.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  She's so good.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  She's so good. Has she been on this pod?

• 13:42Speaker 01

  No, I wish. She seems, I really seems like the funniest person of all time.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  She is so naturally funny.

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  She's gifted.

• 13:49Speaker 02

  By the way, I see interviews of someone else, like someone else will be talking in the mic and she'll be behind them on the red carpet. And I'm like only watching Kiki.

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  Right.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  She's so entertaining.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  She's one of those people that you can't take your eyes off of them once they enter a space.

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  It's a, it's a gift.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  So who else do you think is like that?

• 14:06Speaker 02

  I think you're like that.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Owen!

• 14:09Speaker 02

  You're like that. You entered the other night. I looked at you, I go, there's a star.

• 14:13Speaker 01

  Owen, are you serious?

• 14:15Speaker 02

  A star is born. Lady Gaga's like that, obviously. Renaming all pop stars, like, obviously, they're like that. Sabrina Carpenter's like that.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  I've only been in a room with her once, but yeah.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  She enters a room, breath, you're, you're, you're, you're gasping for air.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  You're like, holy shit, she's stunning, she's like tiny little ball of like talent. She's tiny.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  She's a 4'11", right?

• 14:39Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 14:39Speaker 02

  Wait, no, she's five feet, to be exact.

• 14:43Speaker 02

  Obviously, obviously.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was quick.

• 14:46Speaker 02

  That was quick. Well, I'm a huge Sabrina Carpenter fan.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Same, I'm really excited for the, have you heard the new album?

• 14:51Speaker 02

  No, and I'm dying for it, and she won't, no one will play it for me, obviously, it's not out yet.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  How locked out does she, I'm sure she keeps her shit locked.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  I'm sure. I haven't asked her. Imagine me being like, hey, can you play me the new album? I haven't asked her.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  Fuck, I have no boundaries. I would ask.

• 15:07Speaker 02

  You would?

• 15:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  Okay, if you were at a dinner with Sabrina Carpenter, she was sitting across from you.

• 15:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  What would your first question be? Has she been on this pod?

• 15:13Speaker 01

  No, we've met twice, so I'd probably say, how are you?

• 15:16Speaker 02

  Totally, it's so normal, so normal.

• 15:18Speaker 01

  Well, because like, what am I gonna say, like, but we're not friendly like that, like, I've seen her in passing twice.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  So you're friends?

• 15:27Speaker 01

  Lee, I feel like you're legitimately friends with her. Doesn't Jared style her?

• 15:30Speaker 02

  Jared styles her, and I love her dearly. I'm so afraid to call anyone my friend, because then they're gonna watch it and be like, ew, I hate that kid.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  Has that happened to you before?

• 15:40Speaker 02

  No, but I feel like it.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  So it's an irrational fear?

• 15:42Speaker 02

  Of cour-, but that's what I'm built of. I'm built of irrational fears.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Aren't you?

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:47Speaker 02

  That's our thing.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  Because, yes.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Jake, the other day, texted me after this dinner, being like, was I weird? Why was I weird? I'm like, you were perf-, you were so normal.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  I felt, I just felt it in my body.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  You were dropped in. You know when you're sitting across from somebody who's so dropped in? You were connected, you were present.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  That's the first time I've ever heard that.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  You being present?

• 16:05Speaker 01

  I'm like the least present person on planet Earth.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  You have a podcast where you're extremely present with your guests?

• 16:09Speaker 01

  Well, I didn't used to be.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  I can't believe Lauren sat here. I just watched that clip today.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  I also watched that clip today.

• 16:14Speaker 02

  Wait, it's going viral, of her saying the virgin thing, that she, she almost named her album something else, and that she didn't wanna tell you because she had, um, she might use it.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  For like a deluxe, maybe? Is that what she's hinting at? That's what I was like gathering, but.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  But also, isn't like ver- don't deluxe things like you, you say the name and then like more? Or like, or like plus, you know what I mean?

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:36Speaker 02

  What was Sabri- like, what was Sabrina's?

• 16:39Speaker 01

  Short and Sweet Deluxe.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Was it?

• 16:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  And then like Ariana Grande's was Eternal Sunshine, Brighter Days Ahead.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Whoa. Or like guts spilled.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  Or like, um, yeah.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  Taylor Swift, it's just deluxe.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, which is, yeah.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Or Taylor's ver- oh no, that's different.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  Till Midnight Till Dawn.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 17:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  Taylor Swift, what do you think?

• 17:03Speaker 01

  You know what I think.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  I know, we have the same opinion all of a sudden.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  You know what I think, and there is rumors spilling about her latest album.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  What, what is it?

• 17:11Speaker 01

  Spilling.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  What are the rum- what are the rumors?

• 17:13Speaker 01

  The rumors are TS12.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Early fall or August.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, I feel sick.

• 17:17Speaker 01

  No, those are the rumors.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Who's saying this?

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Everyone.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  No, no, no, where are you reading this, Jake?

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Online.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Send me the threat.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  There was a tweet, there was a tweet that was like.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  Who tweeted it?

• 17:25Speaker 01

  Like this fake pop account, but it, it was like Taylor Swift, it was a joke.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  I saw that sound.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  The sound.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  The sound.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  But then they said August 27th. So that's what everyone's thinking now. And it's like ABBA 90s synth dance inspired with rock elements.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  I, I, for some reason, I just got comple- I, I have to burp so bad because it's like my, my, you know what I mean?

• 17:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  When something's so good, you need it like out?

• 17:49Speaker 01

  Yes, and the theme is apparently hues of orange.

• 17:52Speaker 02

  Wait, Jake, you know too much. She's telling you this?

• 17:55Speaker 01

  No, I'm reading, I'm on, I don't think people understand like how topped in I am to the Swiftie universe.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  No, same, obviously.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  I know every Swiftie creator.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  I'm absolutely obsessed. So are, wait, wait, okay, so how many times did you go to the era store?

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Four, but I used to like, instead of going out and like going out to a party, I used to only go to Taylor Swift Club Nights.

• 18:15Speaker 02

  I went to one.

• 18:16Speaker 01

  How much fun are they? Yep, yep.

• 18:18Speaker 02

  I went to one.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Do you love Globos?

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Uh, no, it was different. It was a, a, outside kind of place.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  But how fun was it?

• 18:24Speaker 02

  It was so much fun.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  I blacked out.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 18:28Speaker 01

  I blacked.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  Oh, you like blacked out because it was so much fun?

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  I thought you met, you got so drunk that you blacked out. I was like, that sounds horrible.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Oh, like, I, that is what I meant.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Okay, great.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is what I meant.

• 18:36Speaker 02

  Oh, you got so drunk that you blacked out?

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Yes, I do.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  And you had so much fun doing that?

• 18:39Speaker 01

  I was on the floor twerking to Fearless.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  Oh my god, that sounds fun, okay.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  It was, I was, it was the best night of my life. I've been to three.

• 18:46Speaker 02

  No, it's always the best. By the way, SoulCycle, when it's Taylor themed, like when it's Taylor playlist?

• 18:51Speaker 01

  I haven't been to SoulCycle in forever.

• 18:52Speaker 02

  I haven't either, but I've.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  You were addicted, weren't you?

• 18:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was addicted to SoulCycle.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  It's a cult.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  It's not a sad thing.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  No, I started going when I was 12. 13, sorry.

• 19:01Speaker 02

  That's unhealthy.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  I know.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  12?

• 19:04Speaker 01

  13, but yes.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  13, I went at like 16.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  I did berries when I was 14.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Isn't that crazy?

• 19:12Speaker 02

  Aren't the instructors like, hey, where is your mom?

• 19:16Speaker 01

  No, they were like, I made friends with my instructor, her name was Emily.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Wait, Emily, do you still talk to her?

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Emily L.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  Emily O?

• 19:22Speaker 01

  L.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  L. Emily L?

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Okay, great.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  I went to the SoulCycle on, um, West 77th on Amsterdam.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  Oh my god, you're a New Yorker.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  That's why you're so normal.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  What?

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  You went to Crossroads, didn't you?

• 19:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm an LA kid, that's why I'm like, not normal.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  That's not true.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  I think I can be grounded in moments, but then it leaves me.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  I think I'm pretty like, delusional and insane.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  I am delusional.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Are you delusional?

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:51Speaker 02

  I think, like, you have to be a little.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  It's just weird with my delusions, because in the moment, I will have such... Like, I will believe it to be true, and then we'll look back like, a month later, and I'll be like, how in the world did I believe that to be true?

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Totally, but what are we, are we talking like, somebody's in love, like, if somebody, do you think people, a lot of people are in love with you?

• 20:10Speaker 01

  No, the opposite, and I actually, you guys, was right today about one.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 20:15Speaker 01

  This guy sent me a rose on Hinge, and I was like, let's fucking go, he's so cute, I've, I've never been sent a rose before.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  I can't believe you're on Hinge, I, we talked about this before, but I didn't know... Are you, you're very famous, isn't Hinge insane for famous people, or is that normal?

• 20:30Speaker 01

  What do you think, Luis, thank you, what do you think, Luis?

• 20:34Speaker 02

  Wait, how famous, you're freaking out?

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Like, I don't know, because then I hear famous people say that they met on Hinge.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  That's perfect, okay, but keep going.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  But he sent me a rose on Hinge, and then he asked me out, or he said, do you want to get a drink at [BLEEP] next Friday? And I was like, yes, oh my god, amazing, and he's best.

• 20:48Speaker 02

  So he's like, in the business?

• 20:50Speaker 01

  I don't know, I, I feel like you just have to be [BLEEP].

• 20:52Speaker 02

  It's kind of a club that only like, famous people go to, am I wrong?

• 20:55Speaker 01

  No, wait.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Like, industry people.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  And he was like...

• 20:58Speaker 02

  I need you around, do you see, like, I, I, I don't know any of this stuff, okay, keep going.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  You know everything.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  No, I don't know this stuff, keep going.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  Dating, I've had my boyfriend for 10 years, I don't know like, fun like...

• 21:07Speaker 01

  That is so crazy to me.

• 21:08Speaker 02

  Keep going, keep going, you were telling a story.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  And then he's like, let's bring Julia and Blank, this, his best friend, and the guy Julia's been seeing. So I'm like, oh my god, double date, amazing. So Julia just texted her guy and was like, are we going on a double date this week? And he avoided every word date and was like, I think it's like more of a party and like all these people are coming.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm absolutely dead. You're like, party with four people at a table?

• 21:34Speaker 01

  No, no, he, and then she, and then she texted him back and she said, wait, so is it a date or not? And you know what? He, I mean, we need to know what he said.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  What did he say?

• 21:42Speaker 01

  We're about to find out.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 21:47Speaker 04

  Cause I tried to get him to set, to, to do a double date with Peyton, with his friend, other friend. And he said, so I said, is it not a double date? And he said, it's not the double date we dreamed of with Peyton, but maybe it's the double date we always needed. What?

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Wait, that, that's still a double date.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Wait, so it's a date?

• 22:05Speaker 02

  So it's a full date? Have I met her? I love her. Wait, I love you. It's Owen Thiel. I'm obsessed with you.

• 22:15Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  No. No, no, no, you don't, we, no, no, no, we really had our time.

• 22:20Speaker 01

  She said you made her feel safe.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  No, I felt so safe. Julia, I felt so safe with you. We were, we were at this insane party where everyone was cool and wearing cool outfits and we were just, you, you were wearing a cool outfit still, but you were just, you were nice enough to be with me.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Thank you. Bye.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  I love her.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  She's great. She's moving. You wanna come to her going away party?

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Done. When?

• 22:40Speaker 01

  Saturday.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  I'm fucking in.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  Are you actually?

• 22:42Speaker 02

  I'm there. Yeah.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  She's been desperate for people to come.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Wait, Justin Bieber just reposted her.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  I saw that.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  She was freaking out.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Well, of course, I would be freaking out too.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I would have been freaking out too.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Wait, that's insane.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  Her birthday party is at, I don't know where. They haven't found a place yet.

• 22:56Speaker 02

  Wait, is it a birthday party or a going away?

• 22:57Speaker 01

  A going away party. This Saturday, her and Peyton are going away.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Where are they going? They're moving?

• 23:02Speaker 01

  Yes, to New York.

• 23:03Speaker 02

  So are you upset?

• 23:04Speaker 01

  They said I had an anxiety attack for attention the other night about it.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  They said that?

• 23:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  So you, you are upset, but you're, it's also a little for attention.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  I'm upset. I just haven't like processed it, but we're gonna have a step and repeat at the house here.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Done.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  And so like, we're gonna have someone taking photos, like a fake, we're gonna play fake sounds. And then I'm gonna do a red carpet interview with someone else posing in the back, so it looks like a busy carpet.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm literally upset. I'm here. I'll also be the person in the back. I don't care.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  No, no, that, the person in the back is either going to be Peyton or Julia posing.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  Oh my god, this is genius. This is genius. Okay, this is great.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Invite everyone you know.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm like, who do I know? Okay, got it.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  And they're going to Face Gym that day.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm obsessed with Face Gym.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's my favorite place on the planet Earth.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  It's the best. It's so, it is painful, though.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  It's painful, but they get knots out in your mouth.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  I know, I feel it. Well, it's like, I think I have TMJ.

• 23:56Speaker 01

  I definitely have TMJ.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh my god, I hear it. You can't hear it, obviously. I just put it to the microphone.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Could you?

• 24:01Speaker 02

  No, but I definitely have TMJ.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  What's your star sign?

• 24:04Speaker 02

  I'm a scary one.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  No, mine's worse. What's yours?

• 24:07Speaker 02

  I'm a Scorpio.

• 24:08Speaker 01

  I'm a Scorpio. What's your rising?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Um, Libra.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Gemini.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I love Geminis.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  Gemini moon.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  I love Geminis. My boyfriend's a Gemini.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  Is he really? Scorpio and Gemini. It's a power couple.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Or it's gonna explode.

• 24:23Speaker 01

  Right, but you've been-

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Horrible implode.

• 24:24Speaker 01

  It's been 10 years, so-

• 24:25Speaker 02

  It's been 10 years, but you never know.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  How'd you guys meet?

• 24:28Speaker 02

  We met first week of, I went to NYU for a week, two, I dropped out after two weeks. But in those two weeks, he went to Parsons and we met through a mutual friend. But he was straight. He was dating a girl.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  What? Why can't I imagine-

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Who looked like a hot Gigi Hadid.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Why can't I imagine Jared is straight?

• 24:42Speaker 02

  I know, it's kind of crazy. He's so gay.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  Like, I just-

• 24:47Speaker 02

  He's so out and happy.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  I just can't imagine him as straight, but maybe I just don't know him that well.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Gorgeous, long hair that's blowing in the wind with his ponytail. Um, no, he was like a different person back then.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  And then he-

• 25:00Speaker 01

  So how'd you stay in touch after you dropped out?

• 25:02Speaker 02

  I stayed in New York for a while.

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  But he said to me, he was like, dating this girl, and then he said to me, he's like, I think I'm bi. Nothing to do with me. He was just like, I think I'm bi. And then I was like, that's beautiful, explore your options. And my friends were like, oh, and he's like hinting at getting together, you should hook up. And I could feel myself like, I was like, I'm gonna fall in love with this kid. I need him to do his thing. So I was like, you should hook up with guys, like, explore. And then he starts dating a guy for eight months. Literally eight, I was like, no, no, no, I met fuck someone once. I literally met a booty call. I didn't mean like, go date some, I didn't mean pick a ring out of caves.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Were you upset?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  I was freaking out. I was freaking out. And then eight months later, he came back, he was like, yeah, that wasn't for me, I think I should try something else. I was like, me! Please, me!

• 25:47Speaker 01

  And then it was you.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  And then it was me.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  And you've been together.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  But the first night we had sex, this is a crazy story.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  I want to hear it.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  It was Adele's, uh, uh, twenty-five?

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, twenty-five.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  Was that? Yeah, twenty-five. And I think there's a song on twenty-five called River Leah, isn't there? I think. And I looked this up, but I think, I think. And I needed, I was, I'm so obsessed with Adele that I was like, I need to listen to this album. I was like this. So Jared was like, I want to have, we, we, it was moving into the progression. We were gonna have sex, but I was like, I'm so sorry, I need to put on Adele, it just came out, it was midnight. So I played it and literally I was trying to listen and Jared and I were having sex and I had to look at Jared during sex and say, I'm so sorry, I need to look at the lyrics of this.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  And you went to look up the lyrics of Adele?

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Of course. River Leah, right?

• 26:31Speaker 01

  Honestly, I get it.

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Okay, so Coachella, this, I was like fifteen years old. I went with my dad, I still go with my dad, my dad and I go to Coachella every year. I'm a family man, okay, assume me.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  You really are, it's so amazing.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  Assume me, I'm a pick me ultimately. Um, so I'm going with my dad and my best friend came with us. And my best friend had this hairstylist, this older hairstylist that she was friends with. And the hairstylist gave her like a, an edible.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  And she was five-two and I was six-two, so she was like, I'm gonna have a square of it, you eat the rest. So I ate the-

• 27:02Speaker 01

  She's praying for your downfall.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  Oh, a hundred percent. I ate the entire edible. All of a sudden, I'm in the Sahara Town, I'm like, woo! And all of a sudden I'm looking around and everything is green, turning green. I'm literally in Wicked, everyone's Elphaba, I'm literally, I'm defying gravity. I, suddenly, I wake up on a stretcher, suddenly, I wake up in the medical tent, suddenly, I wake up in chains because I, I'm, I don't even realize this, my dad's like, stop yelling at them, I'm yelling at the nurses, telling them that they're trying to kill me. Me, I'm literally so like-

• 27:28Speaker 01

  What did they give you, acid?

• 27:30Speaker 02

  It must have been something.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  Bath salts?

• 27:32Speaker 02

  It must have been bath salts.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  Do you remember the bath salts case of the guy that like bit the person in Miami?

• 27:37Speaker 02

  What?

• 27:38Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  Wait, I don't remember this.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  You don't recall?

• 27:40Speaker 02

  No. He bit someone?

• 27:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  You don't recall? You don't recall? No.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  It was, it was in Miami and bath salts were all the rage.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  And this guy ate someone.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  Actually, I do remember that.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Actually, I do remember. Wait, I didn't bite anyone, I don't think, on this drug.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  So whatever this drug, maybe it wasn't bath salts.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  Maybe it was PCP.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  Hmm, I don't know. I don't either.

• 28:03Speaker 01

  But I know that it's like scary weed.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, it could be PC, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna lead with that. Well, it was PCP, so.

• 28:11Speaker 01

  Did you see the Coldplay concert?

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Did I? With the, of course, with the CEO?

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:16Speaker 02

  How do you feel?

• 28:18Speaker 01

  Is it so horrible that I feel kind of bad?

• 28:20Speaker 02

  For him?

• 28:21Speaker 01

  For the whole situation.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  I feel bad for the wife.

• 28:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, same, but I feel, I just feel like awkward.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  I, I mean, it's hor- how did that even happen? Can we just, I, I don't know how that happened.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  If it was so on lock private, why was their entire company standing there in the suite?

• 28:37Speaker 02

  Well, also, if it was in, if it was so on lock private, why are they like at the railing with a camera in their face?

• 28:43Speaker 01

  Well, that's the thing is they, they could see, no?

• 28:45Speaker 02

  But I'm confused. Was the camera like, was it a zoom camera that caught them?

• 28:49Speaker 01

  It must have been a zoom. It must have been a zoom.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  So it was like a kiss cam?

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Oh, was it a kiss cam?

• 28:54Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen Coldplay live?

• 28:54Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  Neither have I.

• 28:56Speaker 02

  But I would die to.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  I'm desperate to.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  I love Coldplay.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  My roommate saw them the other day, said it was amazing.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Where?

• 29:02Speaker 01

  Uh, Madison, Wisconsin.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  They were playing the Sphere for a while, weren't they?

• 29:07Speaker 01

  Were they? I once, I once saw the Sphere, I went for 20 minutes.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  I lie a lot, clearly, on this podcast.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  You know what? They were in talks to headline the Sphere.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  They were?

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Yes, they were in talks.

• 29:18Speaker 02

  They were in talks.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. Have you ever been to Glastonbury?

• 29:21Speaker 02

  No, I'm dying to go.

• 29:22Speaker 01

  I'm dying. We should get a group and go.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  What? It, it, it just happened, right?

• 29:26Speaker 01

  They're taking a year off and then they're gonna do it again.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  I just went to Hyde Park.

• 29:29Speaker 01

  How was that?

• 29:30Speaker 02

  The Hyde Park concerts to see Sabrina.

• 29:32Speaker 01

  The crowds in London are amazing. I did see that. I did see you there.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  It was so much fun. It was so fun. It was, I, I, I mean, I was in the crowd. I was ultimately like with the people, which is how we should be, and it was amazing. It was, everyone was dead. When Man Child came on, we were all doing the line dance. It was so much fun!

• 29:49Speaker 01

  Oh, that sounds so fun.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  It was so fun. We have to go.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  I wanna go.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  We have to go to a Sabrina concert.

• 29:54Speaker 01

  I saw her, uh, where was she? The Forum? Yeah.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:59Speaker 01

  It was the Forum, which by the way, best concert ever in Los Angeles.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  When was that?

• 30:02Speaker 01

  On the Short and Sweet Tour.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  Did I go to that? No. Did I? I don't think so.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  Maybe you were filming adults.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Whoa. No, I wasn't.

• 30:11Speaker 01

  Speaking of.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  Speaking of.

• 30:14Speaker 01

  It's out now.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  It's out now. It's on Hulu. I thought you were gonna say something else. Um, it's on Hulu. Out now. How crazy.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  How was that? Well, you guys filmed in Canada, right?

• 30:21Speaker 02

  It was amazing. First of all, Toronto, let's move.

• 30:24Speaker 01

  It feels like a movie set fake town, respectfully to Toronto.

• 30:28Speaker 02

  No, I think this is the thing. Okay, respectfully to Toronto. Um, you hear it's like New York. So, right? Everyone's like,

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:36Speaker 02

  It's the Tor- it's the New York of Canada.

• 30:37Speaker 01

  Lies.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  You get there and it's a lie.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  It's a lie.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  But once you accept Toronto for what it is, once you see it as Toronto, it's great. It's actually wonderful.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  I like Vancouver.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  Well, Vancouver's gorgeous. You go on the water. It's like a different thing. Toronto's a city, city, city with like an aquarium.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Was it though? When we went to Toronto, it felt like I was on the set of The Desperate Housewives.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  What?

• 30:57Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  You're in a different part of Toronto. No, no, you're not like vintage. I was vintage shopping every day, walking to the vintage stores.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  What?

• 31:03Speaker 02

  It was fun.

• 31:03Speaker 01

  Was the food good?

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, the food was good.

• 31:06Speaker 01

  How long were you guys filming for?

• 31:08Speaker 02

  We filmed for three months.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 31:10Speaker 02

  But then I filmed overcompensating before that for, I was like in and out of Toronto for a few months, which is, I was, I live in Toronto now.

• 31:17Speaker 01

  I guess you do.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  It's about, I mean, let's, if any of them get a second season, let's hope, knock on wood. Let's knock on everything. This is fake wood, by the way.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Does everyone know that who watch your podcast? Or is that a, am I giving a?

• 31:29Speaker 01

  Is this fake wood?

• 31:30Speaker 02

  No, it's real wood, but it's a fake set.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Oh, of course.

• 31:32Speaker 02

  But I had, I'm freaking out, Jake.

• 31:35Speaker 01

  Oh, I know. You were pretty shocked when you came in.

• 31:36Speaker 02

  You guys, this, these, these rocks are not real. I was freaking out. Watch, I, because I watch your podcast religiously.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Love you.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  I literally was like gorgeous rocks. I thought I was walking into like an, a rustic home.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  I know.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  But it's just ultimately a gorgeous kind of modern house with a fake set.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  If you ever need help with your next season set, we have the people.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  I'm so down.

• 32:00Speaker 01

  They're, they're called Interwoven.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  Interwoven?

• 32:05Speaker 02

  I really think that I know everyone and then it's clear I don't.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  You do know everyone.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  No, I think I do and then I don't.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  You do.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  It's a sad thing, which is also very adults because my character in adults is a friend slut, which is kind of what I think I am.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  Do you believe a friend to all is a friend to none?

• 32:20Speaker 02

  A friend to all is a friend to none. No!

• 32:23Speaker 01

  You don't believe that, right? Because my other gay friend doesn't believe it either.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  No, I think you can be a friend to all. I, I, but I get what they're saying. Yeah, this, I get the saying. But no, I think you can be loyal to a lot of people.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:35Speaker 02

  Sorry. Do you know what I mean?

• 32:36Speaker 01

  Yes, I think you just need to know who you are.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  You need to know yourself deeply.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  And also you have to have boundaries with your friends and be like, sorry, I like this person.

• 32:43Speaker 01

  Do you have boundaries?

• 32:44Speaker 02

  No. So I'm not that example.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  But, uh, yeah, I don't have any boundaries.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:49Speaker 02

  Do, yeah, no, I'm like.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  I have none.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  I'm like, come over whenever you want. You do? It's great. But you like, you set clear boundaries from the beginning?

• 32:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  See, my problem is, I'm like, my house is everyone's house. Like, come over, what, like, I'm like, call me at every hour. And then all of a sudden, I'm six years in and my friend's calling me at 4 a.m. every night. And I'm like, I can't stop this now.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  And you can't just ignore it? I ignore calls all the time.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  I obviously ignore calls all the time too, but I just feel bad and then I call them back. It's just a whole thing.

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I get anxious.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  I get anxious.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  Are you an anxious person?

• 33:19Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 33:19Speaker 01

  Me too. And my friend, I was talking to me, he's like, I am not an anxious person. I don't understand.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, people who say that, serial killers. Do you know what I mean?

• 33:27Speaker 01

  What do you mean you're not anxious?

• 33:28Speaker 02

  No, you have to have a little bit of anxiety.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Right? Like, I wake up stressed.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  Of cour- of course.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Every morning.

• 33:34Speaker 02

  Wait, totally.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  You know?

• 33:36Speaker 02

  I also think it's my new thing is like, I can't breathe. That's my new thing.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  Like, my ribs are, my, I don't think I have ribs anymore.

• 33:41Speaker 01

  It's because you're so snatched.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  Well, okay, you said it, not me. No, no, not at all. It's because I think my ribs were somehow, like, removed.

• 33:49Speaker 01

  Really?

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Me completely, like, outing myself as taking my ribs out.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Did you take your ribs out?

• 33:53Speaker 02

  No, but I just, like, said I did for some reason.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Do people do that?

• 33:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, rib removal. I, I really think, like, like, I'm not taking deep enough breaths. That's my new thing. Like, I'm not, I'm not getting enough air in my body.

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Do you have OCD?

• 34:06Speaker 02

  I think I probably do.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  I think you're developing it.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  Really?

• 34:09Speaker 01

  Sorry.

• 34:09Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 34:10Speaker 05

  No, that's an anxiety thing.

• 34:11Speaker 02

  Right?

• 34:11Speaker 01

  Really?

• 34:12Speaker 02

  But I'm also like, does air, this is my new thing also, does air go all the way through your body? Like, because it's not in my, it's not reaching my knees. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, I'm always like, it's not reaching my calves, my air. Like, where's, do you know what I mean? Like, sometimes I look at my feet and I'm like, they're swollen, it's not reaching them. But that's blood, I guess. That's not air.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  Well, air goes into your blood. Right, right.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Jake, we have to, you and I have to become doctors.

• 34:37Speaker 01

  What were you gonna be?

• 34:38Speaker 02

  I was just gonna ask you that.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Okay, well, I'll go after you.

• 34:42Speaker 02

  Okay, what I was gonna be if I wasn't this?

• 34:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Whatever this is.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Don't you hate that?

• 34:45Speaker 02

  Um, yeah. I do podcasts, I guess.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  I would classify you as an actor.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  That's so nice, Jake.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  That is how I would classify you.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  That's so nice, and not, and many people wouldn't. Um, I, I think people would say I'm an influencer who also acts.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  No, I would, I was introduced to you via acting.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  I could throw up and blow you at the same time.

• 35:05Speaker 01

  Thank you so much.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Oh, and thank you. Um, I, uh, what, yeah, so what would I be? I would be, um, hmm, I would not be good at a lot of things.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  I got fired from an internship once.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Tell me the story right now.

• 35:18Speaker 01

  She texted me in the moment, like, I heard you keep falling asleep at your desk and going to the pregnant women room.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, there was a room for pregnant people? That's beautiful. What a, what a woke, beautiful office.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  It was like the mindfulness room for pregnant employees.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  This is, that's great, I wanna work there.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  And I would go and I would sleep there, and then I would go on my phone, I'd fall asleep at my desk. I lasted two weeks.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm sorry.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  It's okay.

• 35:40Speaker 02

  I'm so sorry.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  But then I, I worked at a record label for three years.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  Right, and that went well?

• 35:44Speaker 01

  Great, I was gonna do it for the rest of my life.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  I think I'd be an A and R.

• 35:48Speaker 01

  That's what I was training to be.

• 35:49Speaker 02

  I think I'd be that, I think I'd like go into spaces and be like, it sounds it, kid, you got something.

• 35:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, yes.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Me to Tate McRae, you got something. Tate McRae's amazing, we forgot about Tate McRae.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  She takes up a room when she walks into a room.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  She's amazing, of course.

• 36:03Speaker 01

  Like, she's a superstar.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  She's also like so hot.

• 36:05Speaker 01

  The hottest of all time.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  I know, and she always is in little cute outfits.

• 36:09Speaker 01

  Have you seen her live?

• 36:10Speaker 02

  So, do you know my Tate McRae story?

• 36:11Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Okay, so, four years ago, we're at a Friendsgiving, she was there. Okay, and she had the song out, You Broke Me First, or three years ago, okay? But that was her only song out.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  That was her big, that was her, that was her big, yeah.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  So, and I, of course, I'm face, I, I, I don't recognize faces, I'm like bad with all that, so I didn't like realize it was her. And so, um, we went to, then after the Friendsgiving, we went to like Delilah or some embarrassing club. And I was like, will you stay with me? And I was like, by the way, I'm Owen, she was like, I'm Tate. I was like, you have the best energy. And we just like got along in the car, we were blasting music in the car, and then I was like, what do you do? And she was like, uh, I'm a singer. And I was like, ugh. Oh my God, everyone is. I was like, yeah, what's your song? And she was like, you broke me first. I was like, play it. And then I was like, literally in the car, she was playing it. I was sobbing. I was like, this song is gorgeous. It became like my number one song ever.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  It is the best song ever.

• 37:03Speaker 02

  It's, it's a perfect song.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  I love her first album so much.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  She is, she is so goddamn talented.

• 37:10Speaker 01

  And like the hardest working person ever.

• 37:12Speaker 02

  It's crazy to meet someone who's hardworking nowadays.

• 37:14Speaker 01

  Right?

• 37:14Speaker 02

  So you just gotta get your ass up and work.

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Right?

• 37:17Speaker 02

  No, a hundred percent. People, yeah, people, I feel like especially pop stars, you think that they're like, they have a team around them and they don't like do it all, but they're like doing it all themselves.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Well, because no one's singing or dancing but them.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  Well, and they're creative. They have so, they're just, it's kind of crazy.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  Have you seen her live?

• 37:33Speaker 02

  Tate?

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  No, never.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  It will change your life.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  I need to, I need to.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  It will change your life.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  I mean, I've seen it on TikTok so many times.

• 37:40Speaker 01

  It doesn't even do it justice.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  No, I know.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  It is so exceptional in person.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  It's amazing, and she, I, I just saw this video where she dropped the mic, the mic, like she was dancing and the mic flew. And then suddenly like she like ran down, grabbed it and then like hit a move. I was like, ah! I literally all was screaming on my phone. I was like, yes!

• 37:56Speaker 01

  It was at her Madison Square Garden show.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  I've ever been. By the way, me in bed screaming yes to Tate McRae. By the way, with an A, Y A A S S S.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  This episode of Therapist is brought to you by Booking.com. Booking dot, yeah! So I just decided that I am going to go to New York in the fall to visit Peyton and Julia, and I have to use Booking.com to book my stay because it makes it so easy. And I know, I've said it a million times, but it really is so true. Like you can put in exactly what you need at the hotel, what you want it near, if you want it walkable, which as you know, I do because I don't drive and obviously we're in New York. You can put in everything that you need for a hotel room and what neighborhood you want to be in, and it will find the perfect stay for you. You can also like book cars, you can book vacation rentals, like you can literally book anything you need. And I'm usually so stressed about planning a trip, but like for this New York trip, I'm just like, it'll be fine.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  Like I'll literally just go on Booking.com, find a hotel and book it. They find you exactly what you're looking for. Like really and truly, like they find you exactly what, you put in what you want, they will find you a room. That has it. And like, as I've said, like, I used it all the time on tour because we'd pull up to a city, there'd be nothing. And then, because we'd be like, where are we staying? Matt would be like, I don't know. And we'd be like, you don't know? But he would go on booking.com and find us a place and it would all be good. So I, it really took the stress away from traveling, which was amazing. And I am a very, very, very stressful traveler. So like, having this is just made life 10 times easier, really and truly. Find exactly what you're booking for on booking.com. Booking dot, yeah.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  Wait, okay, tell me things. I want to know things.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  Am I doing a good job?

• 39:34Speaker 02

  You're, you're a perfect podcast host.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 39:37Speaker 02

  You're perfect.

• 39:37Speaker 01

  I was fishing.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  You, yeah, and you know you are.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  And you know what the best part-

• 39:41Speaker 02

  Did you always want to be a podcast host?

• 39:42Speaker 01

  Nope.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 39:44Speaker 01

  That seems like a random-

• 39:45Speaker 02

  But you always knew you were funny.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  I always felt funny.

• 39:48Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. I remember your come up. Watching you blow up on TikTok was actually my happy place.

• 39:53Speaker 01

  I used to be so much funnier.

• 39:56Speaker 02

  Jake, I hate when you say that.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  It is so true.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  To be honest, I've never heard you say that, but I hate when you say that.

• 40:00Speaker 01

  I, I used to be a who and a motherfucking riot because I gave no, I didn't care.

• 40:05Speaker 02

  No, 100%, you know what? 100%.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  I didn't care.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  I feel that way, too. I'm like, God, I watch old things, bad podcasts of myself, and I'm like, God damn, I was funny.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Right? Because it's like, I didn't think anyone was watching.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  I was free.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  No, I'm still free. I say whatever the fuck I want, which is not good, I don't think. You say whatever you want to.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  I used to do, I used to do these pranks on my friends. That's when I was at my funniest. I once called Peyton and I told her that Joseph Stalin wanted to take her out for a date.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  And what did she say?

• 40:32Speaker 01

  She said, who?

• 40:34Speaker 02

  I'm kind of obsessed with this. That was your bit. I watched you do that, but I think you should bring that back. You've been doing it a little recently. You sprinkle it in.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  I sprinkle it in. I do it a lot with like, my tour manager, Matt, who you would love.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Love.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  Well, you met him.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's hot. I had a flirty vibe with him.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Everybody does.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  He could not, he didn't look at me once, but I had a flirty vibe with him.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  He looked at you.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  Can I be honest? He, he looked at me to be like, why is he looking at, why is Owen looking at me so much? Because I literally was like this.

• 41:01Speaker 01

  Were you an iChat kid?

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Huge.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  And you know what? Cheers to that.

• 41:04Speaker 02

  Cheers. Eyes. Wait, I was a huge eye. I was also like, yeah, I was, I was in love with a lot of hot men, like, like celebrity men, and I would-

• 41:15Speaker 01

  Did you ever watch HBO Sex scenes as a kid?

• 41:17Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  Wait, I would also-

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, maybe I shouldn't say this.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  But I would also like, look up like, hot guy actor, bold.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was obsessed. Oh, my god, Matt's calling.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  No, I thought he was.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  He would never call me back. My heart just sunk. He would never. Now I feel like I can't breathe again. The breathing's bad. No breathing's back. He would never do something so kind. Wait. What are you a therapist about? That's such a good question. Um, what am I a therapist about today? Um. Oh, fuck, Jake. If anyone has a good answer for it, I know it's you. Um, OK, well, recently, my car was impounded. Do you know about this? No. OK, so, um, it's a horrible story, actually, but I'll tell you it. And maybe you, maybe it's too long for the podcast, but I was, um. Nothing's ever too long. OK, so I, uh, I'm a horrible driver, horrible. What, like, like one of the worst. Like, if you're in my car, we'll probably get in an accident. Right. But it'll be fine. Like, I'll exchange information, like, all's good. Right.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  So anyways, I left for three weeks. I went to France with my family. Cool, humble brag. I went to France with my family, and I came back, and I was like, I want a Thai food. I was like, I'm craving Thai food. I've just been in France. And I'm like, from where? Yeah. Sticky rice? The best Thai food. The best! In Los Angeles, the Silver Lake location? Yum! I'm diving into the egg rolls. It's the best Thai food in Los Angeles. What is it? I'm diving into the sticky rice. Mango sticky rice. I'm diving in. I like the, oh, so good. The sprit. The Pad Grapao is the best. Delish. Um, Pad Tseu is also delish there. Delish. OK. Oh, that Tom Kha, delish soup. That's Louise's like. Come on, I'm dive, I'm pouring it on myself. I'm literally pouring it on myself. I'm taking a shower. Louise would get, continue.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  OK, so I, I go to, to, I was gonna postmate it, but it's two blocks away from me. So I go, no, no, no, I have to drive, right? So I get, go to get in my car. I'm beeping the car horn. I'm like, hey, some, my car's nowhere to be found. Break out in tears. I'm, I'm breaking down. I'm sobbing on the side of the street. I'm like, where the fuck is my car? I'm beeping. I look on my app, because my car is an app. And it's ultimately on Victory Ave. And I'm like, where the hell is this? And then I think to myself.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  My car's been stolen. Hundred percent. It's been stolen. It was parked outside for three weeks. I probably had some, I'm so bad with cars, so I probably left something in the back. Someone probably broke in and then stole the car.

• 43:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Okay, so I'm thinking, okay, if it's stolen and I can see where it is, I'll just go get it. Which is so bad. You imagine me showing, I'm in a crop top. I'm in a Taylor Swift, literally TTPD.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  Where's the car?

• 43:52Speaker 02

  TTPD of crop top. And I'm like, fuck, I have to go get this. So I Uber. I Uber Comfort, because I need to be comfortable before I yell at this man who stole my car.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  What the fuck is an Uber Comfort?

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Jake, it's the best.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  But what's the difference between that?

• 44:08Speaker 02

  And an Uber X?

• 44:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  It's a little more comfortable. It's a little more legroom. Okay.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Hey, did you ever Uber Pool back in the day?

• 44:14Speaker 02

  Um, no, but all my friends did.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Uh, that was my shit.

• 44:17Speaker 02

  Really? Wait, my friends like hooked up with people in Uber Pool? Is Matt calling?

• 44:25Speaker 01

  Is it true?

• 44:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  Why?

• 44:31Speaker 06

  It is.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  Say hi to Ov.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Matt, do you remember me?

• 44:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, I think so.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  I actually, I've never been more offended.

• 44:41Speaker 06

  When did we meet?

• 44:41Speaker 01

  I did his podcast, you brought me there.

• 44:44Speaker 06

  Oh, of course, dude.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Matt, Matt, those few seconds that you didn't remember me, I'm not kidding, I, I, I almost took a gun.

• 44:52Speaker 06

  No, I, I want to kill myself.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  No, no, no. Also, I really felt we had a connection.

• 44:58Speaker 06

  No, we definitely did. That's why I'm so embarrassed.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  Matt, what kind of connection did we have?

• 45:05Speaker 06

  What are you guys doing?

• 45:06Speaker 02

  Ignores the question. Um, we're doing his pod. I'm on Therapus. Ah!

• 45:11Speaker 01

  Do you know Matt has a wife and children?

• 45:13Speaker 02

  What?

• 45:13Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Matt, I'm sorry that we almost had what we had with your wife there.

• 45:19Speaker 06

  It's okay.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Okay, bye.

• 45:20Speaker 02

  That's beautiful. Okay, wait, can I finish the story?

• 45:21Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  So I think, okay, I'm in Tortured Poets Department.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  TTPD.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  TTPD, the Tortured Poets Department. Crop top that I've cut, obviously. To make, by the way, it was a crop top. I made it even shorter, because I was like, okay, I need a little nipple to show. Um, I'm going to this guy's house to get my car back. I get there and I see this lot that says, "Impounded"? What does that mean? Well, I read impounded. So I was like, oh, it's sex.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  So it's gay sex and I'm gonna have to intervene in this OnlyFans performance. Like, this is horrible. It means your car was taken, was like, taken by the government. So here's the deal. I don't believe in parking tickets. Peyton doesn't either. She calls it make your own spot. Hundred percent. I'm with her. I don't believe in that shit. I think it is, I put the parking tickets in a drawer and I say, that'll take care of itself. It will. Sorry. What are they gonna do? Well, they impounded the car. So that's what they did. It was a disaster. I walked in, this man was talking to me. He was like, can I please see your ID? I pulled out my ID. My ID is expired because I've, and it's like eight months expired,

• 46:31Speaker 02

  or six months or something bad. And after 90 days of being expired, you have to take the driver's test again. What? So by the way, I can't get my car back. Oh, so you don't have a car right now? No, driving my boyfriend's. Which, by the way, I shouldn't even be driving because my license is expired. I shouldn't be on the road. Take me off the road. I don't know how to drive. I don't, you actually don't know how to drive? Never. You drive. I've no. I've never, I've driven around a parking lot once. Wow. So I'm kind of pissed about, I'm like, the government has bigger fucking fish to fry than taking my car away. Like, leave my car. Oh, also, I didn't register my car. It's a whole thing. How have you had your car for as long as you've had it? I've had it for two years and I didn't register it.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  So how do you, how do you even get tickets? No, I guess it was registered, but it's like, the registration ran out. So how much did you have to pay in tickets? Because Peyton once had to pay $5,000. Yeah, I got 38 parking tickets. And, can I tell you something? Because I don't, can't get the car back because they can't give you the car back with an expired license. Because of this, my car is sitting in the impound lot, just racking up. Like, it's like $200 a day. So now I'm like... Just tell them to keep the car. Wait, so now I'm like, take the fuck, keep the car. But it's a nice car. It's a lease. I'm like, this is a disaster. I've, I, so that's kind of, I'm therapist about this. When's your birthday? November 4th. You're a November Scorpio. Dangerous or scary or good or hot?

• 47:57Speaker 01

  More intense than October Scorpios.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  Really?

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:00Speaker 02

  I feel that in myself.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:02Speaker 02

  You're an October Scorpio. When's your birthday?

• 48:03Speaker 01

  October 27th.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  Great birthday.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  Right?

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Five days before Halloween.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  It's a good and it's a sexy 27, like it's a sexy birthday.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  That's, that's hot.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  Right?

• 48:14Speaker 02

  That's a hot day. November 4th is ultimately election day a lot of years.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  Oh my God. So your birthday sucked this year.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  It was tough.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  It was very tough. It's been tough before and it was very tough this year.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  Do you cry on your birthday?

• 48:26Speaker 02

  Always. I never not cry.

• 48:29Speaker 01

  What? Are you gonna do something fun for your birthday this year?

• 48:30Speaker 02

  No, I'm gonna sob, but I might, if we, if, if, I have to knock. Is this real wood? If we get another season of adults, knock on wood, um, I'll be shooting during my birthday. I was shooting last year for my birthday and I sobbed.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  That's awesome.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  But I sobbed because, why did I sob my birth, on my birthday? I just sobbed. I forget. Oh, because Trump won.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  So I was sobbing. That was kind of the vibe.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's.

• 48:52Speaker 02

  What are you therapists about?

• 48:53Speaker 01

  Uh, what am I therapist about?

• 48:55Speaker 02

  I love therapists.

• 48:56Speaker 01

  Um, I'm having really bad scaries from the weekend and it's just, it all would have been better if I just stayed home. And that is always the theme.

• 49:04Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  And.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  Are you scared about our dinner?

• 49:07Speaker 01

  No, I've moved, I've moved past that.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  Great. Okay. So what else happened this weekend?

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Saturday night, I blacked out. Well, I'll tell you what I'm therap- pleased about is I'm about to be on the final season of my show, Mr. Robot, which is supposed to be the best season of Mr. Robot.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  I'm obsessed with that.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  And I found a song from Mr. Robot because they like synced it and it was the best sync ever.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  Wait, what was the song?

• 49:27Speaker 01

  Tell you right now.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  Tell me this right now.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Okay. It's called In Time by Robbie Robb.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  By Robbie Robb?

• 49:33Speaker 01

  Robbie Robb.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  Robbie Robb?

• 49:35Speaker 01

  And if you're like, wow, what does Robbie Robb sing besides that? Nothing. But you gotta watch Mr. Robot.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  I know. I have to lock in. I have to lock into a lot. I haven't finished Love Island.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  What's the, you don't need to do that.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Really?

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Are you kidding?

• 49:47Speaker 02

  I feel like I do. Hood is everywhere.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  Do you know who won?

• 49:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, uh, Amaya, papaya.

• 49:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. So then what's the point in watching?

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Well, I need to see what happened. Like I'm, I'm, uh.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  Nothing happened. It's like the worst season ever, apparently.

• 50:01Speaker 02

  Really?

• 50:02Speaker 01

  That's what everyone said.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  No, I was feeling, the beginning is tough. This Cosmo ta- uh, Taylor?

• 50:07Speaker 01

  I have to have a shrine.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  Well, of course. Um, wow, hot.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  Right? The bangs.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  Blowing in the wind, the hair?

• 50:14Speaker 01

  And you know what? I can tell you exactly what album she was promoting. Red.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  Avi, you can tell.

• 50:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  Wait, how can you tell? But you really can't tell. I actually agree.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  So, Debut, Curly.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Well, of course.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Fearless, Curly but lighter Curly. Speak Now, Curly but wavy. Red, Long Hair, Bangs. 1989, Pixie Cut.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 50:40Speaker 01

  Reputation, Bob. Folklore, Bangs and Bob.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Reputation Tour, when she's belting and walking and strutting.

• 50:51Speaker 01

  I never got to see.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  You know that video?

• 50:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I never got to see.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  I have chills thinking about it. You can't see.

• 50:54Speaker 01

  Did you go to the rest?

• 50:55Speaker 02

  You can't see, but I have chills. Uh, did I? Yes. Oh, my God. Wait, did I? Yes, yes, yes, I did.

• 51:00Speaker 01

  Did you go to Eras?

• 51:01Speaker 02

  Of course, three times. Not four, though. You went four. I'm so upset.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  I almost went five once in Vancouver and I couldn't make it.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  I went in Toronto when I was shooting Adults.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  Was it awesome?

• 51:09Speaker 02

  It was amazing. Darcie Carden, do you know her?

• 51:11Speaker 01

  Yes, I was with her the other night.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  I'm obsessed with her.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  She's really funny.

• 51:15Speaker 02

  She was in The Good Place. She was in Broad City. She's so, so brilliant.

• 51:19Speaker 01

  She's so fucking funny.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  And she's now in Handmaid's Tale.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  Right.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  She's amazing. So anyways, she was shooting Handmaid's Tale. I was shooting Adults. She was like, hey, do you want to come to this concert with me? I was like, oh, which one? She was like, Eras. I was like, hey, I'm outside.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  I'm outside your door. And then we went together and it was the most fun ever.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  What were you surprised of?

• 51:35Speaker 02

  And by the way, I've never done Eras Tour, like, VIP. I was VIP. Because Darcie was VIP.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  It's electric.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, it was thrilling.

• 51:43Speaker 01

  I only did that once and it was like the most

• 51:45Speaker 02

  It was thrilling.

• 51:45Speaker 01

  electric night of my life.

• 51:46Speaker 02

  It was unbel- standing in her mom, Taylor's mom and dad walked in. I was literally like, my mouth agape.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  Agape.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  Agape, my love.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  You were in a Taylor Swift music video.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Two.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  Which one?

• 51:58Speaker 02

  The Man.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  You need to come down.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  You Need to Come Down, obviously, and The Man.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  The Man.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  I handed her papers in the very beginning of The Man. That's my claim to fame.

• 52:05Speaker 01

  You didn't know this?

• 52:06Speaker 02

  That is my claim. No, no, no, that's my claim. I'm not kidding. Adults is great. Overcompensating is great. Watch them both, seriously. But also, watch the Taylor Swift music videos. I'm in it for a second, but when you see me, you see me.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  What's she like on set?

• 52:19Speaker 02

  She's a pro.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:22Speaker 02

  She was directing.

• 52:23Speaker 01

  But like, do you hear the song or is it like in ears?

• 52:26Speaker 02

  You Need to Come Down, didn't hear one stitch of it.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 52:29Speaker 02

  I didn't know what it was. Imagine, I'm laying on a shades lounge. I have no clue what this is. I go, this song is gonna be good. She's so humble and normal and perfect and she's like unbelievable. She's an, how can a pop star that famous and not successful be so grounded and normal?

• 52:44Speaker 01

  Because that's Taylor Swift.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  And that's on Swiftie.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  And that's Taylor Swift.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  And that's on Miss Swift.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Because she is the biggest superstar in the world and why have they do a cough attack?

• 52:54Speaker 02

  Wait, maybe you have something caught in there? Oh my god, I saw a video of a spider going down the throat. She texted me asking if I wanted to be in the "You Need to Come Down" video.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  Well, how'd she say it? Do you still have the text?

• 53:05Speaker 02

  Of course, of course I have the text. I'm like framing that shit. It was the coolest experience of my life. It seriously was. And by the way, it's the most professional set. You walk in, she's like, her stylist has outfits for you. You like try them on. You like make sure you feel comfortable, everything great. I was like, comfortable? I was like, this is the hottest I've ever looked. I feel so good. Then suddenly you're like on a set, on set with Taylor Swift. It's like insane. It was really, really cool.

• 53:36Speaker 01

  I'm very jealous of you.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  And also she's like, by the way, she's lovely, but I'm a nobody and she's thanking me for making this video. I'm like, no, you don't have to thank me. I'm like, it's okay. She's like, no, thank you, Owen. I'm like, you know my name. Like, it's that vibe. I'm a fan.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  I love that fucking album, too.

• 53:57Speaker 02

  A what lover? It's amazing.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  Love that fucking album.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Do you watch The Summer I Turned Pretty?

• 54:02Speaker 02

  No, I have to. I have to. Do you watch it? Do you watch it?

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Julie and Peyton are like sick for it.

• 54:08Speaker 02

  A lot of people are. Honestly, my cousin's obsessed, but she's obsessed. Everyone's obsessed.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  Do you want to get into the Tommy What's Wrong?

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Please.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  I feel like you're gonna be really good at them.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  I'm absolutely, I'm leaving marks on your couch from my cyclops.

• 54:20Speaker 01

  No, it happens.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  No, it's gonna look like I'm sweating through the couch. I can't get over my boat shoe. I don't know if they're good. You love it? Jake hates them. I feel sick.

• 54:32Speaker 01

  My mom hates what?

• 54:34Speaker 02

  My boat shoes. Just read.

• 54:35Speaker 01

  No, I like your boat shoes.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  No.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  I was just confused about.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  Jake, every single time you look at them, you can't make eye contact with me.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  That's not true.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  You look down and you cannot meet my eyes. Okay, come on.

• 54:45Speaker 01

  My mom met my situation ship and said, I thought you said he was hot, like so loudly, and he heard it. I'm so embarrassed.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  Sometimes the problems that were given, I don't know how to help.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  I also, he's, then he's not hot.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  Right?

• 55:00Speaker 02

  How old were you when you came out?

• 55:01Speaker 01

  To my parents, I must have been 10 or 11.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  That's so young, Jake.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  I know.

• 55:06Speaker 02

  That's really, that's beautiful.

• 55:08Speaker 01

  Right?

• 55:09Speaker 02

  That's like, you, you were, that's amazing. You knew yourself.

• 55:12Speaker 01

  I know. I really did.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  I pretended to be straight for a second.

• 55:14Speaker 01

  For how, how long?

• 55:15Speaker 02

  No, no, not long. I just, I, I had a girlfriend named Eden ****, shout out, love you, girl. And I kissed her to a bat mitzvah. And then the next day, I went around saying, I kissed you **** to a bat mitzvah, and she said it never happened.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  So did it happen?

• 55:28Speaker 02

  It happened. I really think it happened. Now I'm doubting myself.

• 55:33Speaker 01

  Bat mitzvah season was, did you have a bat mitzvah?

• 55:36Speaker 02

  No, I dropped out of Hebrew school.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  Okay. I didn't have a bat mitzvah because my mom told me, all my, all the kids in my grade were renting out like nightclubs. And my mom told me I could go and have it at the rec center.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  By the way, totally.

• 55:47Speaker 01

  And I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not having a bat mitzvah then.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  Or bar mitzvah.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, bar mitzvah, yeah, kind, that's kind of what happened to me.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  Did you, how many bar mitzvah, bat mitzvahs did you go to?

• 55:57Speaker 02

  I don't, thousands. Like, I, no, I, like, maybe millions. Like, I'm not kidding. Like, I, I think I went to, I, more bat mitzvahs. I know more people who have been bar bat mitzvah than anyone knows in their, in.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  And which was the best one? And who had the best merch?

• 56:13Speaker 02

  Okay. Do you want to know the most insane thing?

• 56:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:15Speaker 02

  So my cousin is 16 now, and she, or no, when are you, oh, she's 14, 13. When are you bat mitzvah? 12, 13?

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  So she's that age, and just sent out invites to their son's bat mitzvah, or bar mitzvah. And it's a briefcase, and you open it, and hrrr, a video pops up.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  What?

• 56:35Speaker 02

  Okay? James Bond themed. So suddenly, it's like him being like, you got the passcode, it's this, like, in full Bond. He's like, the name's Bond, James Bond. And then, hrrr, the thing goes down, and it's an invite. How insane is that? And then you have to go on a website and do that. It's like a whole thing.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  Do they live in LA? I want to crash.

• 56:53Speaker 02

  No, I need to go. I need to go.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  I want to have a bar mitzvah.

• 56:59Speaker 02

  I do too. Should we do it?

• 57:01Speaker 01

  You want to do a joint?

• 57:01Speaker 02

  I would do a joint. Benay?

• 57:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Isn't that what it's called?

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Benay mitzvah?

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's called Benay.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  Okay, but we can't do the service part because I can't speak Hebrew.

• 57:09Speaker 02

  I'm really bad at it.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  I don't even know a single word besides schwitz. I don't even think that's a word. Do you want to hear what my Christmas song is called?

• 57:14Speaker 02

  Go.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  Santa, would you pay for me? I forgot my card. And it's just about going out to dinner with Santa and forgetting your card.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, that's genius. Let's get Kelly Clarkson on that.

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Right?

• 57:23Speaker 02

  And Ariana. It's Santa, will you hear me? But it's yours.

• 57:26Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm freaking out.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Ariana has a modern Christmas classic on Santa Tommy.

• 57:30Speaker 02

  I mean, come on.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  I'd die for her.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  Also, Sabrina's Christmas album?

• 57:36Speaker 01

  I never heard it.

• 57:38Speaker 02

  I feel sick.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  I know, and everyone loves it. And you're in the Christmas special with Meg Stalter.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was, but her album is unfucking believable.

• 57:45Speaker 01

  It's called like Fruitcake, right?

• 57:47Speaker 02

  It's called Fruitcake.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 02

  It's amazing.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  I need to listen to it.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, it's ba- by the way, I listen all year round.

• 57:52Speaker 01

  It's bangers?

• 57:53Speaker 02

  It's bangers.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  I'm excited for Christmas season again.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  So am I. I love Christmas.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  And I think I want to spend some time in New York during Christmas. No, I don't. Sorry.

• 58:04Speaker 02

  Just be honest with yourself. Stop lying.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  Because I wanted to go to the Christmas market, but my whole life is here.

• 58:09Speaker 02

  No, but why don't you just take a trip? You go, I need to ultimately move there to go to the Christmas market.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Have you been to the Christmas market in New York?

• 58:17Speaker 02

  No, something's happening. I'm telling you. I gave you the I can't breathe disease that you have.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  I think I have it.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  You have it.

• 58:24Speaker 01

  You've never been to the Union Square Christmas market?

• 58:25Speaker 02

  No one will take me. I could go alone. Okay, fine. I'm an independent man.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  They have like food, hot chocolate.

• 58:32Speaker 02

  Wait, obsessed? Sounds great. Sounds like a restaurant.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's awesome. Speaking of.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  It's outside.

• 58:38Speaker 01

  Have you been to Italy ever?

• 58:40Speaker 02

  Jake.

• 58:40Speaker 01

  Talk about a conglomerate.

• 58:42Speaker 02

  You don't like it?

• 58:43Speaker 01

  I love it, but like it's everywhere.

• 58:45Speaker 02

  It's the best. You walk in, okay, it smells delish. Then you walk up to one station, you're getting gelato. One station, you're getting pizza. You're in Italy. You're in Italy. Oh, my God, that just clicked.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  Where was the first Italy?

• 58:56Speaker 02

  I'm not kidding. That just clicked for me.

• 58:58Speaker 01

  What?

• 58:58Speaker 02

  Italy.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Why did you think it was called that?

• 59:00Speaker 02

  I was confused. I literally was confused. I was like, oh, it's like Eater. Like, you know the website?

• 59:05Speaker 01

  Eater and why?

• 59:06Speaker 02

  I sound so dumb. Italy. Genius. Wow, who thought of that?

• 59:10Speaker 01

  I want Italy now.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Same, we'll get after it.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 59:13Speaker 02

  Okay, read more.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  I found out my boyfriend's ex-girlfriend is prettier than me, and now I spiral every time. He smiles at me. I need my confidence back. Did you ever feel that way about someone Jared's been with before?

• 59:21Speaker 02

  Wait, Jared was with literally Gigi Hadid, like, not that actually, but like a hot Gigi Hadid look-alike. Imagine how I feel. I feel ugly every single day I look at you. He was with G- imagine walking into a room knowing that somebody's been with a Gigi Hadid look-alike. Of course, I feel that person's pain, and guess what? You have to find confidence within yourself. You have to look in the mirror. Actually, maybe don't look in the mirror.

• 59:46Speaker 01

  I hate looking in the mirror.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  Maybe block out your mirrors.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:48Speaker 02

  I did that for a day. It's really healthy.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  What?

• 59:51Speaker 02

  Putting things over your mirrors.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  What's it like?

• 59:54Speaker 02

  I actually didn't leave the house because I was too embarrassed. Because, once you can't look in the mirror, it's like...

• 59:58Speaker 01

  What am I doing?

• 59:59Speaker 02

  What am I doing?

• 59:59Speaker 01

  I don't even know who I am.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:01Speaker 02

  I lost complete sense of self.

• 1:00:02Speaker 01

  How do you think mirrors were invented?

• 1:00:05Speaker 02

  Narcissus.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  I don't know who that is.

• 1:00:09Speaker 01

  Me.

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  Okay, keep going.

• 1:00:13Speaker 01

  I ghosted a guy and then I saw him working the door at a bar. He let everyone in except for me.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  I ghosted a guy?

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  I need revenge now.

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  Wait, I ghosted a guy?

• 1:00:19Speaker 01

  And then I saw... What do you... Yes. She ghosted a guy, she saw him working the door at a bar, and then he let everyone in but her. Which is like, I would do the same thing.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Do you ghost people?

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  So, I used to believe in ghosting, now I'm like, ugh.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  I do, and I feel so bad about it, but I feel more awkward like Louis says, it's like sending an anti-ghost ghost text.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  What is that?

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  It's like, like, "I'm about to ghost you, so I'm just letting you know now."

• 1:00:46Speaker 02

  Oh, that's funny. It's actually good.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  But I feel...

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  Hey, I'm about to, like, cut this off completely.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  But you don't want to, because I hear all my girlfriends being like, "This guy texted me this whole paragraph about how we can't talk anymore." And it's like, it was never even that serious. So it's like...

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:00:58Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? It's like, where's the line?

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Well, the... I just don't believe... I'm scared of ghosting because I'm like, "Then you see them at a bar..."

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  It's happened to me so many times.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  "And then you can't get into the bar." Like, that's horrifying.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  It's happened to me so many times.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Just like, I'm all about like, sending a weird emoji that ends the conversation forever, like a kite emoji.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen my emojis?

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  What are you... What?

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  My butthole emoji?

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  No, what's that?

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  I'll send it to you later.

• 1:01:24Speaker 02

  Wait, it's a Jake Shane emoji?

• 1:01:25Speaker 01

  No, it's all my friends use, and it's an emoji spreading his butthole.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  Wait, is it a... Wait, how do you get that?

• 1:01:33Speaker 01

  I don't know. Someone found it.

• 1:01:35Speaker 02

  I'm up... Send that to me right now.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Then I have another emoji sucking the...

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  You have a hacked phone, love.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  No, it's called necessary emojis.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  Alright. Okay, keep going.

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  I've been going on dates with this amazing guy, smart, kind, and successful. But he's bald, and I cannot get over it. And our moms are best friends. How do I let him down?

• 1:01:53Speaker 02

  I have to tell you something.

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 1:01:55Speaker 02

  There's a man out there, I'm not gonna name his name, who I am so madly in love with. And he's bald. Guess what?

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  Hot? I go, I look at him, I say, "Hot? You're an adult."

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  I get it.

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  Finally, I'm dating an adult.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  I get it.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  By the way, he's my age. By the way, guess what? I'm going gray.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  Where?

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  I'm not kidding, don't look closely. I'm fully going gray.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  How old are you, 27?

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  28. I'm going gray! So now I should be with a bald man. I should actually be with a bald man. Cause I'm getting, I'm, I'm, I'm aging rapidly.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  Why, is it normal that we're all going gray this early?

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  No, I think it's anxiety and, and what, I think it's the mics. I literally think it's holding this mic every week. I think it's making us gray.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  Do you smoke weed?

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  No, I can't.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  Want me to ruin your day?

• 1:02:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  Mercury's in retrograde.

• 1:02:41Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  By the way, I knew it.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  I absolutely knew it.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  I feel it too.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  I woke up today, okay. I have, I'm doing this adult thing. Now I'm an adult. All of a sudden, I'm an adult, so I have to be an adult. I have a carafe, glass carafe next to my bed, okay? Like you pour wa, put water in. I put, uh, uh, lemon and cucumbers last night in it and made it for myself. And I was like drinking it all night and I was like, I'm an adult. And then this morning, I went to go take a sip of it, shattered the carafe, the other, the, the glass shattered everywhere. I couldn't get out of bed because now the glass is all around me.

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  So who helped you, Jared?

• 1:03:14Speaker 02

  No, I was like, you like, bet. So I just took my comforter and put it on the glass and then slowly walked on it. And guess what? It's still there.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  No, it's not.

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  Have to deal with that when I get home, love, after therapy. Yeah, fully. What am I gonna do? Clean it? No, I had to run to get glam.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  One time I cleaned up broken glass, um, in a guy's dorm in college so I could get invited to a party.

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 1:03:39Speaker 01

  He was the hottest guy in the fucking dorms and he said like, "You wanna come tonight?" My mirror broke.

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Wait, his mirror broke?

• 1:03:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  Bad luck, bad luck. Seven years of bad luck. You're doing fine though. How's he?

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  That's what happens when your mirror breaks?

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, seven years of bad luck. I mean, I'm super superstitious.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  I'm the mu- the most. You might have OCD.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  I think I do. Like, I'm like really superstitious.

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:04:02Speaker 02

  Like, I like have favorite underwear.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, well, I get it.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  I don't like re-.

• 1:04:07Speaker 01

  I have favorite socks.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Right, there you go.

• 1:04:09Speaker 01

  I have favorite underwear, too. I used to have this underwear that had a hole in the crotch.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Wait, same.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  And I would refuse to throw it out and I would wear it.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  We're the same.

• 1:04:15Speaker 01

  And it would like, and I would walk out sometimes and my whole area would just be out.

• 1:04:20Speaker 02

  Same, same. I- I'm obsessed with where re- yeah, I mean, not re- yeah, I- I- I have, I used to have a tank top that I used to wear all the time. And was like shredded to pieces, but it was my lucky tank top.

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  I get it.

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  And then I was ultimately shirtless at school because it was like shredded.

• 1:04:35Speaker 01

  Did you have a dress code at your school?

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:04:36Speaker 01

  Neither did we.

• 1:04:37Speaker 02

  We could wear whatever the fuck we wanted. We could go naked. Tell me to tell me what's wrong.

• 1:04:44Speaker 01

  That one's just about burping.

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  Wait, I love that. Read that.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  It just says.

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  That's happening to me.

• 1:04:48Speaker 01

  Help, I keep burping every ten seconds.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  By the way, that's you.

• 1:04:50Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  Wait, you wrote that.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:04:52Speaker 02

  My love, you wrote that.

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  I know. Even in silent situations, the doctor says it's from acidic food. That's definitely what it is for me. Yeah, but I cut that out already. I've been burping for two months straight. I'm so embarrassed. You just have to take a Tums now. I hate Tums. Ugh, I hate Tums.

• 1:05:05Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  More than anything in the world.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  Love.

• 1:05:08Speaker 01

  I think they taste disgusting.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Love. In my car, eating them for fun.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 1:05:13Speaker 02

  Oh, my god. Ricolas and Tums, downing.

• 1:05:16Speaker 01

  What's a Ricola? Like a Rugula?

• 1:05:19Speaker 02

  Sort of. No, it's a cough drop.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, I like cough drops. I like cough drops.

• 1:05:24Speaker 02

  I'm not even, I'm not even sucking. I'm chewing, swallowing, another, chewing, swallowing, chewing, then I'll suck a little, then I'll swallow.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  I at least do ate when I'm driving. Cause I need, no, uh, cough drops. But then all the Tums. My stomach always hurts.

• 1:05:38Speaker 01

  Always, always. I just got my boobs done and didn't tell most of my roommates or college friends. I'm nervous to go back to campus and face all the questions during recruitment. I think as you grow older, you realize that nobody cares.

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  I think also, yeah, it was your decision. Go for it. It's hot.

• 1:05:51Speaker 01

  I'm so happy you got your boobs done.

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm so happy. How big?

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  I'm wondering too. I wonder if it was bigger or smaller.

• 1:05:56Speaker 02

  Do you ever wish you had huge boobs?

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  Uh, no, cause I've had that.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  You wanna see a photo of me?

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  Show me pic.

• 1:06:03Speaker 01

  When I had big boobs?

• 1:06:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. I want huge knockers.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  That'd be fun. Me walking into a gas station being like, hey, do you sell Trident? With huge knockers. Come on!

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  No, it sounds awesome until you actually have them.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  Okay, show me.

• 1:06:21Speaker 01

  God, I need to find it. I can't find it anywhere. Um, but I had really big tits.

• 1:06:26Speaker 02

  Wow, that was so fun for you. What did you do on that, with them?

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  Like, I would walk around and they would shake as I walked. And like, they, I would jump and they would like ricochet down.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  That's beautiful.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  They were huge. Peyton would be like, your tits are bigger than mine.

• 1:06:38Speaker 02

  That's-

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  I used to cup them and shake them.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  Oh my god, fun.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  I can still kinda do it.

• 1:06:43Speaker 02

  I know, I can do a little. I want that.

• 1:06:45Speaker 01

  Do you see this?

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  Jake, that's muscle. Jake, I was, oh my god, you guys. So Jake came on my podcast and I confronted you because you go to ALO and no one invites me.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Oh, do you wanna come with me this week?

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  I was invited for the first time by ALO team, by the ALO team. I, literally, I'm not kidding, tears. Well, I-

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  Are you gonna go?

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  I think it's too scary for me to go. Well, I just wanted the invite. Now I'm like, I can't go to that. It's way too scary. Everyone's hot and doing Pilates? Tate McRae and Glenn Powell and Jake Shane all doing Pilates together? No, I can't go to that.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  But it's not even, it's, it's not, it's not scary.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  I'll go, just, I'll go and film the entire thing, just so people know what it's like. I want, I'm like, I wanna be the outsider that goes.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  But you're not an outsider.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  And this is, and this is nice that you're saying this.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  It's you're not an outsider.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  And this is kind, but can you imagine? I think it was because of your podcast that I got invited. Yeah, cuz I said, I really wanna be invited. And then, all of a sudden, they invited me. I think they watched.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  It's really nice, the gym.

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  It is?

• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it's free.

• 1:07:47Speaker 02

  I have to tell you something.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Yeah?

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Do you see this water?

• 1:07:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  Yuzu in it. I'm obsessed with the sparkling-

• 1:07:54Speaker 01

  What's yuzu?

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  Yuzu juice.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  Like lemon?

• 1:07:57Speaker 02

  It's like, well, it's yuzu.

• 1:08:00Speaker 01

  So what's, so what's that? Like lemon?

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  I literally don't know what yu- I think yuzu's a type of lemon.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  I've been having Ultimas. Have you ever had an Ultima?

• 1:08:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're amazing.

• 1:08:09Speaker 01

  That's, I have one every day. I'm like, I drink, I'm drinking juice.

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  Do you know what Yoli is?

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  It's all-

• 1:08:15Speaker 02

  I'll put you on, Yoli.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Oh, tell me what you think of this?

• 1:08:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Because your show's in my dreams. I wanna start a sleep brand.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Wait, done. What do you mean?

• 1:08:23Speaker 01

  I wanna start a sleep brand.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  Will you come on and promote it?

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  Yes, with blankets and pillows and eye masks.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  I love that!

• 1:08:29Speaker 01

  I know, and you, and you create your own custom dreamland.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  Oh my, I have chills. I've gotten chills so many times this episode.

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  And so did I, and I told Louise, and Louise was like, "Well, think about how many brands sell blankets."

• 1:08:42Speaker 05

  And I just said, "What's the differentiator?" He just said, "I want some blankets."

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  What's the differentiator? Let's talk about it. What is the differentiator?

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  It's from me.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  By the way, total, and period.

• 1:08:52Speaker 01

  It's from me.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  But, I love that. That's the statement, that's the mission statement. Um, dot, dot, dot, "It's from me."

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  Like, the blankets will be fucking soft.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  Great.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  Maybe some of them will-

• 1:09:00Speaker 02

  What's your favorite kind of blanket? Guess what? I went to Home Goods the other day. Rachel Zoe has a, has a brand.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  I bought this blanket from Rachel Zoe's brand. The most, I think it's better than like, the cashmere, whatever that fuck, what's that?

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  Bear for drinks. So I'm about to rock your world.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  Okay, what?

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Lola blankets?

• 1:09:19Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 1:09:20Speaker 01

  I, you know what? You know what, Owen? I have one for you.

• 1:09:24Speaker 02

  Well, I knew you fucking did.

• 1:09:26Speaker 01

  I have one for you.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  Um, why, wait, what, what, what, tell me about them.

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  They sent me all the blankets, I have one for you.

• 1:09:31Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I'm, I'm-

• 1:09:32Speaker 01

  No, you're gonna freak the fuck out.

• 1:09:34Speaker 02

  Wait, so what would your, so what would your eye mask say?

• 1:09:37Speaker 01

  Nothing. It's chic to not say anything on the eye mask.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Of course, of course.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  It'd be nothing, but it would be weighted silk.

• 1:09:44Speaker 02

  Wait, and then I'll do a collab with you for In Your Dream?

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:09:50Speaker 02

  Wait, I am freaking out!

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  I need to do a sleep brand.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Done. I think everyone would love that.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:09:55Speaker 02

  You're always in bed.

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah, right?

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  We have that in common.

• 1:09:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, Owen, what did we learn today?

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  We learned that, um, we learned a lot, actually.

• 1:10:05Speaker 01

  I learned your car was impounded and maybe you-

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  We learned that my car was impounded.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  Shouldn't be driving.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  We also learned that you can date bald men.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course you can.

• 1:10:11Speaker 02

  Sorry, that's kind of my mission statement of the day. You can date bald men. Love that. I actually think that's hot.

• 1:10:17Speaker 01

  I think so too.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  Who's a bald celebrity who we know and love? Let's just name one.

• 1:10:24Speaker 02

  The Rock!

• 1:10:24Speaker 01

  The Rock. Vin Diesel?

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  Vin Diesel! These are hot men!

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  Who else is bald? And that's about that.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  And that's that.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  Well, Owen.

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 1:10:34Speaker 01

  I love you. Did you have fun?

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  I, are you ca- I want to say all day.

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  Okay, good, because I had a great time.

• 1:10:38Speaker 02

  I feel like we like could keep going for

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  We could.

• 1:10:40Speaker 02

  Hours and hours.

• 1:10:41Speaker 01

  But now we need to talk-

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  Can I say something? You're a wonderful podcast host.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  Wonderful. It's just talking.

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:10:46Speaker 02

  Sorry. Sorry that we're just chatting and we just came up with a genius brand that I want 10% of.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  And there's three cameras staring at us in the face.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  I love it. I feel at home.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  We'll give a little. Bye pussies.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  Bye pussies.

• 1:11:09Speaker 07

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