Session 148: Daisy Edgar-Jones

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  Hi.

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  Hi.

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  We have matching pink iPads.

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  I'm so obsessed. Cheers.

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  Cheers, eyes.

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  I don't even want to put a case on mine.

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  I'm not put- why would you? They're light enough that you don't need one.

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  I'm still waiting for mine to get set up.

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  Right.

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  How long is it gonna take?

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  Is it restoring from iCloud?

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  Uh huh. It's really hot.

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  Like, do you think, like, it's not like an iPad Pro, is it?

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  Alice, I don't know if that has enough s- s- s- storage.

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  This is why I'm saying, like, this isn't a legit-

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  I don't know if you should have restored it from iCloud.

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  How did you set yours up?

• 1:20Speaker 01

  I restored it from iCloud, but I got a new phone, remember? Like, your phone is, like, so backed up. I've never seen a more backed up phone in my time.

• 1:27Speaker 02

  Okay, how many photos do you have?

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  On my new phone? Like, not that many.

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  What do you mean, new phone versus old phone?

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  Do you remember, I got a new phone and I completely cleared it out, and then I had to ask everybody what their number was? You don't remember this?

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  No, you didn't do that to me. The-

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  And you remember, I couldn't share my location with anyone but you?

• 1:42Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. I was about to say. And who, who did it work for?

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  You. Because you wouldn't, you wouldn't give it up.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  No. I said, Manny, you need to help us.

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  Yeah.

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  No way. Wait.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, tell them how much you love the Sour Poppy, okay?

• 1:53Speaker 02

  It is. I also feel like it's a great Halloween flavor. Because it's like Sour Apple.

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  Ooh, Halloween get- I don't like Halloween. Do you like Halloween?

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  It is my least favorite holiday.

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  Uh huh.

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  I would choose Thanksgiving and Christmas over, and like-

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  Thanksgiving.

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  I honestly, this is actually good for us to talk about. We are holiday Grinchers.

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  We are holiday Grinchers.

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  It's not okay when we are doing a holiday together. Immediate misery.

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  But we miss it when it's gone.

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  Of course. We wake up, I wake up on Christmas, they say, "Oh, the Christmas Grinch is here."

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  Yeah, you know that's what they say when she walks down the stairs? "Oh, the Christmas Grinch has arrived."

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  Yeah.

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  Every year, it's something.

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  Literally, every year, it is something.

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  It is, oh, and it's always actually, like, something that's worth everyone that we tell being like, "Damn."

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  Literally. Jake is, he plays all sides. You go and you, you're like, egg on everyone else. And you're like the evil, evil genius Christmas elf.

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  But you love it.

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  And you egg me on like no other. He'll like pull me into the bathroom, like, "Wait, like, did you, is that, are you okay?"

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  Well, I have to check up on my friend, you guys.

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  I'm like, "Yeah, wait, wait, am I okay?" Like, I start freaking out.

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  Okay, so you know what? Why don't we, why don't we do one Christmas without something happening? We'll all say, did, we'll be like, "Wait, what, what was today? Oh, it was Christmas."

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  It was. No, our holidays are the worst. How many holidays have we spent together now?

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  A lot.

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  You would think that, like, the older we get, the more mature we get, like, it gets better, like-

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  Of course not. We're just more self-aware. We still behave the same. You know I leave Alice voicemails every single morning?

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  Mm-hmm. You're one this morning? What was it? I'm so hungover.

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  The best part, what Alice will do when I'm hungover is, there is no one in this world

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  that will make me feel worse.

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  I'm horrible.

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  I woke up, I said, "I'm too old to be doing this." She swipes up, "Bad."

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  It's a joke.

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  But being hungover with you is re-

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  What's wrong with me? Why am I so evil?

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  Do you know how fragile I was in that moment? Like, you can, Alice, you, you can imagine. It's just a joke.

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  I did do that. I mean, you, the thing is, I don't realize the weight I have-

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  Over me?

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  Like, on my actions. Like, that's so fucked up.

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  I literally was like-

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  Like, you're having the scaries, and I'm like, "Yeah."

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  I was not.

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  That was bad.

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  I was not, okay.

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  Oh god, that's funny.

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  Well, tonight, we have on Daisy Edgar Jones, who you love.

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  I do love her. She's British.

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  She's British, and she, by the way-

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  Oh yeah. What about it?

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  Hey, The Strokes?

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  All Alice does is make fun of me for my performative music liking.

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  It's ridiculous.

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  She, like, what's a prime example?

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  You'll, like, him being pick me, instead of saying, like, "Oh, my favorite artist is Taylor Swift," or like, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's like, "The Strokes." And I'm like, "Oh, really?" Really? Because, like, who are you lying to? And then he's, he was saying for months, "I'm going to see this concert in New York." Well, oh no, I can't do this. Sorry, rejecting all plans. I can't do this because I'm going to see The Strokes in New York, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, "Uh huh, okay, so..." You're not gonna know a single thing. He's like the person that is like buying vintage graphic tees.

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  And like, has no idea what he's wearing.

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  Not one.

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  And you know how, like, people really hate those people, right?

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  I do think we should see Oasis. When they're back on tour. I love British culture. How much do I love British culture?

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  You really do. That's why you're so-

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  I don't know what it is.

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  You gravitate towards them.

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  I love being in London. I love British people. I just die. Like, they're, your humor is so nasty and dry and just so unforgiving.

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  Yeah.

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  It's like, take it or not.

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  So, are you ready to go outside, face the light?

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  This was wonderful.

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  It's because of our iPads.

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  It's because of our iPads. Eyes.

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  Like, it's so good. It's so light.

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  It is so light. You love normal people, though, huh?

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  I do love no- hey, normal people wrecked me.

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  Did it really?

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  Mm-hmm, I was not okay.

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  Wait, when did you watch it? Sometimes Alice will consume a piece of media that changes her life.

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  Sobbing hysterically, didn't want to watch it with anyone else. Lily kept trying to watch it with me. I was like, "I can't," because I was a wreck.

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  And look, look what, by the way, the OG supporter of Sour Puss?

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  Yeah, me.

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  You know I get calls when I'm in New York, "Can I go into your home and take Sour Puss?" You know, your, your fiance swiped up on my story of Brett saying, "What the fuck is wrong with you? Why? We are scavenging."

• 6:56Speaker 01

  He said, he said, "Alice and I have tried everywhere, we can't get anything."

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  He's like, when he was in Vegas, he went to go check. When he was in the desert just now, he went to go check.

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  Really?

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  His whole family is like, "Yo, bring us some more candy." I'm like, "No, I can't even get the fucking candy."

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  It's, it's sold out, but look, for you.

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  I didn't know if they were ju- thank you. I didn't know they were just on display.

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  No, no, that you can take these.

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  Are we done?

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  I love you, baby.

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  I love you, baby.

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  Enjoy the episode, pussies. I love you.

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  Welcome back, pussies to Therapists. Tonight, we have on the star of the new adaptation of Sense and Sensibility, out October 16th. The one, the only, Daisy Edgar Jones.

• 7:45Speaker 03

  Hello, hello, hello.

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  Thank you for being- that was one of my best intros I've ever done.

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  That was beautiful, so smooth.

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  That was amazing.

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  Thank you so much.

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  I did not know that the 1995 version was one of your favorite movies of all time.

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  Oh my gosh. I mean, it is a perfect film. I think it really is such a beautiful movie. Have you, did you watch it growing up?

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  No, the only version I've seen is your version.

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  Really? Oh my gosh.

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  Which you were fantastic in.

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  Thank you. No way.

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  Yeah.

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  I think maybe because I'm British, it's such a, like, it's such a part of your life, like, Jane Austen in all form. So, that's wild.

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  Yeah, I, I'm really bad with period pieces. I, I don't, it's tough for me to understand what everyone's saying.

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  Whenever someone says period pieces, I think of, like, a period, and I think of Carrie. Like, that's a movie about periods. I'm like, I have to remind myself that-

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  Is that movie about periods?

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  Well, there's a, you know, a period scene at the, at the start, like-

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  Right.

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  You know, so, but you mean Regency films, yeah.

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  I always forget that. Yeah, yeah.

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  But congratulations.

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  Thank you so much. Thank you.

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  What did, what did it feel like when you got the offer?

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  Oh, it's like, if I, if you told me, like, at five, what would be your dream, dream, dream job? It would be to do a Regency Jane Austen movie with Working Title, who is my, one of my favorite production companies. They, you know, gave us Love Actually, they gave us Notting Hill, they're like, they gave us The Pride and Prejudice with Keira Knightley, like, they are just so, such a, again, part of British culture. And then, like, it's, she's one of my favorite literary heroines. Like, I think Eleanor Dashwood is probably the most like me of any character I've, I've ever played. She's a very sort of introverted people pleaser that has a lot of emotion, but is like, quite, you know, able to govern it. And she, like, playing her was such a dream.

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  You think you're introverted?

• 9:33Speaker 03

  I'm sort of like a mixture. I'm quite shy, but I, I kind of, that's why I love acting, because it's a chance to sort of be naughty and no one can tell you off, or like, be a sort of more confident version of yourself. But yeah, I would definitely lean on the introvert scale. Where do you, where do you stand?

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  I think I'm, I used to be like the biggest extrovert.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  But then when, like, when I started smoking a bunch of weed, I became like really introverted and like, I didn't want to leave my house.

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  In a good way?

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  Like, kind of. Like, I, like, I have my funniest bits come out of being high, but like, I, it makes me not, like, just like, want to like, lay on the couch and watch TV.

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  Do you remember the first time you got high?

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  Yeah, I was at a party, I was sixteen years old, and I, or I might have been fifteen, and I smoked a spliff, and I like coughed up a lung. And I, I don't think I actually got high, because they always say the first time you don't get high, but I remember the first time I greened out.

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  What happened?

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  My knee, like, I hit the pen too many times, I was like eighteen, and my knees buckled in, have you ever been in a Gristides in New York?

• 10:34Speaker 03

  No.

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  It's like this, like, grocery store, and my knees buckled in a Gristides, and I fell to the floor, passed out. Do you remember the first time you got high?

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  I, yeah, it was not good. It was not good for me. I, I, I've actually told the story before on a podcast, but I, I, I went to Amsterdam, because, you know, in, when you turn like sixteen in the UK, it's a big thing to go interrailing, and you, you get like one train ticket that takes you to loads of cities around Europe, and it's a bit of a rite of passage, you just get sort of proceedingly more drunk in every location. And then Amsterdam, for me, was like, oh my god, like, weed is legal, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna have brownies, I'm gonna have spliffs. So I had, me and my friend Nancy went to this cafe and had a spliff, and they give you like a menu, and I was like, oh, there, there's, there's one called Slagathor, but it's got like four different strains of weed. And in my brain, I was like, oh, that will be really like pure.

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  That's like pure. Do you know, it's just like, absolutely like what the nuns in California, I'd watch a, like, a Vice documentary about-

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  The nuns, that's grow their own weed. Yes, they're incredible.

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  This is what the nuns are doing. I'm like, this is perfect, this is what we'll do. Anyway, I smoked a spliff, and we were on the side of the canal, and you know when you're high and someone makes random noise and it sets you off? I think Nancy was like, meh, or something like that.

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  Yeah, yeah.

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  Anyway, I started laughing, she started laughing, and then I wet myself, and then I kept laughing because I'd wet myself, I was like, you didn't even realise I wet myself. So I was like laughing, laughing, laughing, and then I passed out and came to in an ambulance, covered with like heart monitor ECGs, and this poor ambulance, like, driver was basically like, oh, these fucking tourists. He was like, no one has ever died of smoking weed, you had a panic attack, you're fine. So anyway, I haven't really, I haven't really had it since.

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  I would never smoke again in my entire life.

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  It was so embarrassing. I was like, I can't believe I came to Amsterdam, had one spliff, and ended up in an ambulance.

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  But that's because the weed there is so strong.

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  It's so strong.

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  It's so strong there.

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  And I was like, I'd never had any, and like, oh, it's so crazy. I mean, it was just, and I shouldn't have had one with four different strains of weed as well. I think that was where I went wrong.

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  Like, smoking, you're like, nothing's happening, like, yeah.

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  And like, you know, we're two, it was one massive spliff between the two of us, and I think, yeah, usually it should have been shared, so.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  You know what I meant to ask you about?

• 12:49Speaker 03

  What?

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  You go to Glastonbury.

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  Yes, have you ever been?

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  No, I'm going for the first time next year.

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  Yes, oh my god.

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  I need to hear everything about it.

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  Oh my god, oh, I'm so excited for you. It is my favorite place on earth, like, hands down. It's such a vibe.

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  Wait, what, like, but I heard, like, it's like, you, like, I have to rough it, like, you have, like, you're camping, like-

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  Like, it's something so pure and amazing about, like, your first, sort of, like, makeup wipe, shower, where you sort of, you, it's amazing how quickly you become feral when you don't shower for a day, but everyone's kind of mucky, and also, my hair has never looked better than at Glastonbury, or something about like the rain and the dew and the like mud. Also, Glastonbury's on these, they're on these specific, like, I don't think they're called fault lines, but essentially it's meant to be a magical place. It's like, and it feels that way, there's, there's a sort of energy and a magic, and there's so many different like age ranges like there as well, from like babies to like, people have been going since it began. It's, oh, I'm so excited for you.

• 13:46Speaker 01

  I haven't like started planning yet, but I know, because they took, I wanted to go last year, but they took the year off.

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  I know, it's the fact, well, that, isn't that pure?

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  Yeah.

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  They let the grass grow again.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  Oh, is that what they do? Is that why they take, they go one?

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  Because it's on a farm, and obviously, like, it churns up the grass so much having all these people, so they let, they, they let the grass grow.

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  Oh, that's beautiful.

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  Have you got a Pinterest board of your, like, festival looks?

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  No, do you, are you a Pinterest girl?

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  Oh my god. But also, like, for me, Alexa Chung and Kate Moss, Glastonbury is like-

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  Oh, Kate Moss, Glastonbury is the pinnacle.

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  So I'm always like, okay, how do I, how do I achieve that look?

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  Oh, you've achieved it.

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  Oh, thank you.

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  You've achieved it.

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  Honestly, wellies and like, oh, it's just, that was one thing I would say is that be prepared for either to be like punishingly hot or, or complete like wet out, because it's just, London weather's crazy.

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  Crazy. It's either pouring rain, or it's the hottest I've ever experienced in my entire life.

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  Yeah.

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  Do you have a favorite set you've ever seen at Glastonbury?

• 14:42Speaker 03

  That's a great question. Oh, Charli XCX, actually.

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  Oh, I was so mad that I wasn't there for that.

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  She was amazing, and I saw her twice at Glastonbury. I saw her, like, twenty twenty-one, maybe? Or twenty twenty-two? And it was kind of before the Brat era, and I remember like being in that crowd and just thinking she was like a full-on icon. And then I saw her two years later, come back and do her whole Brat tour. And it was so amazing, because like, she's so incredible, and like, all of like Glastonbury, it was, it was crazy. We had to, we had to get there so early even just to get a space, so it was, it was wild.

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  How long have you been going to Glastonbury for?

• 15:17Speaker 03

  Um, I think I went to my first Glastonbury in twenty twenty-one, so I've only been three times?

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  So you've only been after you became a public figure, so you've never experienced it before?

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  No.

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  But do, do you find that, like, people, like, respect your space there, or?

• 15:32Speaker 03

  No one cares. Like, no, everyone's just there for the music and the vibes, like, it's, it's, it's quite fun for that, that you're just walking around and everybody's amongst each other, and also by that stage, I've covered in mud, and I don't think I'm even recognizable. Yeah. Have you been to Coachella?

• 15:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:47Speaker 03

  Since becoming, like, do you, do people leave you be, or?

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  Well, it's, it's a little different at Coachella, because I think Glastonbury is more like everyone's together.

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  Yeah.

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  So everyone's on the same playing field, but at Coachella, like, there's different sections, and, but I, yeah, I, I went to Coachella in college before this happened, and then after, and it is different.

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  Yeah.

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  You can't be like off your face.

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  No, well, I know, and also, it's so mad to me that in Coachella, there's drinking stations, where you have to like, or that was what, what happened when I went last time, where you had to go past and, and you could only drink alcohol in like specific zones.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 16:22Speaker 03

  What? Is that, was that not a thing? Is that?

• 16:24Speaker 01

  No, I mean, I'm sure you're right.

• 16:25Speaker 03

  Misinformation, because I was like, oh, this is so different. For when, when I went, it was like you had to be in this specific place to drink alcohol, you couldn't bring it out into the festival.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  That makes sense.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:37Speaker 01

  Dude, what year did you go?

• 16:39Speaker 03

  I went in twenty twenty-one, it was a good year, it was a good year. I went, like, it was Harry Styles and Billie Eilish.

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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Who else was there? Swedish House Mafia, I think, was there?

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  With The Weeknd.

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  Mika was there.

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  Mika.

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  Gotta be brown, gotta be blue, gotta be violet skies.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Did you grow up on like Lily Allen and like that type of music?

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  Did you?

• 16:59Speaker 01

  Well, I, like, I'm obsessed with British culture. Like, obsessed.

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  Oh my god.

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  Like, beyond words.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  What's your, what's your, like, what hooked you in?

• 17:07Speaker 01

  What, my best friend, their entire family is British, and they're like all gooners, so they're all like Arsenal fans.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  They must be happy right now then.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  They're very happy right now. They all went to the game last weekend, so I'm obsessed with that, I'm obsessed with like sausage rolls, and I'm, right now, I'm getting into Oasis.

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 17:24Speaker 03

  Oh my god. Oh, I hope they go on tour again, I didn't get to see-

• 17:27Speaker 01

  Well, they are, they just announced that they're doing a show in Boston.

• 17:30Speaker 03

  We've got to go.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  Wait, should we?

• 17:32Speaker 03

  I mean, I would literally, I would pay so much money to go, I would love that.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Let's go see Oasis.

• 17:38Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  Well, the most embarrassing thing happened, I was trying, because the guy I liked sent me their album, What's the Story Morning Glory, so I was like listening to it, and I sent him back, um- Uh, like, don't look back in anger, because I thought it was one of the deep cuts on the album. And I went to go to the Spotify streams. And I texted him.

• 17:54Speaker 03

  You're like, have you heard of this one?

• 17:55Speaker 01

  No, I said, I said, this, the one.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  And then I went to the Spotify streams and my jaw hit the floor.

• 18:02Speaker 03

  That is so funny.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  I was absolutely mortified.

• 18:05Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. You're like, this one's quite good. Have you heard of it?

• 18:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, he was like, yeah, that's the famous one.

• 18:10Speaker 03

  The big one.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Besides Wonderwall.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  Oh, such good songs, though.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  I know. And they have a new documentary documentary coming out.

• 18:16Speaker 03

  Do the, I can't get enough. Like, I really, I, I'm, I love that Sausage Rolls and Oasis are your, like, two. And Gunners are your, like, top hits.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Sausage Rolls, Oasis, Gunners, Lily Allen, specifically the song, LDN.

• 18:29Speaker 03

  Oh, also, have you, you know, the, her early stuff, like?

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, yeah.

• 18:33Speaker 03

  La la la la la la la la.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the fear.

• 18:36Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Shit, Smile, Alfie.

• 18:38Speaker 03

  Smile, Smile. I mean, she's just so funny and irreverent and like, I'm, I love that this new album is so brilliant as well.

• 18:45Speaker 01

  Oh, it's amazing. Have you seen it live yet?

• 18:47Speaker 03

  No, but apparently it's incredible. It's like a theatre piece, isn't it?

• 18:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's forty minutes. She doesn't speak to the audience. She just performs the songs and gets offstage.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  I like it, too.

• 18:55Speaker 03

  And doesn't she have, like, all the receipts?

• 18:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, she goes through the Dwayne Ring bag. Like, it's like, so scandalous. She's awesome. But I loved her early stuff, like, and I like that album, She's Just Too, but she doesn't like it, I don't think.

• 19:07Speaker 03

  Does she not? Would you have Alan, would you have Alan, Lily Allen on the?

• 19:11Speaker 01

  Of course, of course. I know. She's so awesome.

• 19:14Speaker 03

  And I was gonna say, other, like, other British culture things. Have you, like, watched Angus Thongs and Perfect Snogging? Have you watched Wild Child?

• 19:20Speaker 01

  I, of course, I've seen Wild Child.

• 19:23Speaker 03

  A perfect movie.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  A perfect movie.

• 19:24Speaker 03

  They don't make movies like that anymore.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  They don't. Why don't they?

• 19:28Speaker 03

  That movie. I was thinking about this the other day. I, I watched this, I saw this TikTok thing where somebody was talking about the fact that, like, older movies of that time used to have, like, incredibly detailed and fun bit characters. Like, characters that came on, did a bit, and came off, but they were, like, really solid and interesting little funny beats. But I feel like now it's just sort of, like, lead characters and then supporting, but it's not really, you don't have those, like, little cameos. Like, you know what I mean? Like, in, like, Pirates of the Caribbean, like, there's this, there's, like, there's two, I, I can't remember their names, but there's two characters that, like, occasionally you drop in and they have, like, a little back and forth being like, oh, he's, like, the back pole's not back. And they have, like, a little, like, bit.

• 20:11Speaker 03

  And it's funny and it's sort of not connected to anything. It's just a little, like, drop in. But if you look back in older movies, like, throughout, there's always those sort of funny, like, for example, in Harry Met Sally, when she's like, I'll have what she's having. Like, all these little, like, like, featured roles that are really fun. And I feel like Wild Child is just full of all of those, like, brilliant characters and all, like, like Harriet.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  Yes, yes. That's the mean girl, right?

• 20:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, when she's, like, thinks she's Keira Knightley in Pride and Prejudice.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 20:39Speaker 03

  Doing all, oh, it's.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  That was good. That was good. That movie's amazing.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  That's so good.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  When she jumps into the ocean and her dad says, I'm sending you away.

• 20:47Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, it's so good.

• 20:47Speaker 01

  It's honestly Emma Roberts. Like, that is my favorite role of hers, besides AHS, American Horror Story, Coven.

• 20:53Speaker 03

  Oh, it's amazing. Oh, also Aquamarine. That's a.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, I forgot she was in Aquamarine.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  She's so good in that.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  Did you, like, when you were growing up in London, like, did those movies make you want to, like, like, did that, did you enjoy, like, American culture? Or were you, like, fully immersed in, like, London culture?

• 21:10Speaker 03

  That's a good question. I mean, it's funny, like, I, I grew up on Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. Like, I watched all of Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place. Like, I, I lo, like, that was the TV I consumed. Um, and my mom, like, was such a huge fan of, um, American musicals. So I watched a lot of, like, Meet Me in St. Louis. Um, I can't think of a single other one, but I watched, I watched a lot of, like, musicals. So I, it was a real mix. And my granddad was a huge Johnny Cash fan, so, and I lived with him for a while, so.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 21:41Speaker 03

  We had a lot of Johnny Cash playing, Dolly Parton.

• 21:44Speaker 01

  Well, Johnny Cash, that's Walk the Line, right?

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  I've never seen it and I'm, I'm, I'm gonna watch it on the plane tonight.

• 21:49Speaker 03

  Ah, where are you going?

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Uh, New York.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Ah, what for?

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Fashion week. It gives me a lot of anxiety.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  Does it?

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 03

  Me, too.

• 21:56Speaker 01

  Really?

• 21:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  You get anxious during fashion stuff?

• 21:59Speaker 03

  So, it's so anxiety inducing. It's like, it's like the pinnacle of anxiety. It's like the most strange and crazy little blip of time. It's such a wild, wild thing.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Do you remember your first show?

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Gosh, yes, yes. It was just before Covid and normal people hadn't come out at that point. So I, it was a London show and that was fun because I was, like, complete, a complete nobody. So I just sort of wandered in, was like, oh, my God. And they, they had no idea what to expect and kind of just watched it unfold and was like, this is kind of wild. But, I mean, it, they are, like, little performance art pieces, too, because the amount of time, effort, like, from the sound design to the, the way the models walk, to, to the clothes, obviously. It's, it's such a, it's such a crazy thing for, it's usually only, like, ten minutes long and then it's done.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  I had no idea.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  It's so ma, do you remember your first show?

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was Tommy Hilfiger and I sat down and I thought it was gonna be, like, an hour long.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  It's sort of like, it's like when you come too quickly, it's sort of like, oh, my God.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  But it's a weird environment, because everyone's phones are, you're being filmed at literally every angle.

• 23:02Speaker 03

  Well, that's what makes me anxious. You're like, if I have a bogey or I, like, I don't know, like, something goes wrong, like, it's so, you can't control it. It's sort of everyone, you have to be on the whole time. It's, it is wild and I think everyone also is feeling that kind of, like, sense of this is kind of strange. So I also feel like the energy of everybody else is a bit like, hello?

• 23:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  It's hard to, you don't necessarily have, like, the most connected conversations, because, like, everyone's sort of just like.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Everyone's on edge.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  Yes, because it's so wild.

• 23:29Speaker 01

  Everyone's, like, also knowing that they're being filmed and, like, checking out their seat and, like.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  Are you going to Paris?

• 23:36Speaker 03

  N, not this time, because I'm, I'm doing a press tour for Scent, so I can't, I can't. But I, I, I went to a YSL show last time and that was really fun, actually, because it was, I, the clothes were incredible. And I was sat next to, like, two very lovely people, so I had some good chit chat. But I also, so funny, because do you find, like, whenever anyone, I never, because people take out their phone to record, but I know, they always seem to do it in unison about, like, one particular, but I never know what the look is.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  You never know with a piece.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Like, you know, it's just the one.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  And you always think someone's filming you and you're like, I don't want to be texting and it's like.

• 24:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  It's all too much. But I'm excited. I'm going to Calvin Klein.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Which will be cool.

• 24:13Speaker 03

  That's really cool.

• 24:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm excited.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  Do you have your Calvin jeans? Wait, what are you?

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm doing just a white t-shirt and jeans. So easy, but I'm like, I feel so bloated from all the travel. It's like, past the point.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  But I was gonna ask, your mom is a film editor, right? Or was a film editor?

• 24:29Speaker 03

  She was, yeah, before I was born, yeah.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  So does she ever have any input on the stuff that you do that normally you wouldn't pick up on?

• 24:36Speaker 03

  It's funny, like, having an editor for a mother, like, she, she's got such great insight about what's useful for you to do on set as an actor. Because I, I think, like, the more I'm doing this especially, I realize that the so, the film is made in the edit. It's, it's completely made in the edit and, and it can be completely changed. And, and so actually, like, the value of giving range and options and play and being playful. I mean, you have to place a lot of trust in whoever's editing it and shooting it. And that, that I find hard sometimes, giving over that, like, yeah, just sort of hoping that they, especially with something like comedy, it's so, again, like, comedy beats and all of that's rhythm and that's in the cut.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  So she was always really amazing about, like, you know, give options, give range and, and her taste in movies, like, I grew up, she just, just loves film. So I grew up watching so many great movies. Like, I remember, like, being really young and her showing me, like, The Network or All the President's Men. And these, like, incredible movies that, that I, like, at a very young age was, was, you know, understood. And so I think I'm so grateful. My dad as well, um, gave me such a great sort of, like, history of, of film.

• 25:47Speaker 01

  And when did you, uh, start to pursue acting?

• 25:50Speaker 03

  I got into the National Youth Theatre, which is like a big company in the UK when I was about fifteen, I think. And that was when I sort of met other actors and learned about drama school and learned about agents. And I sort of just was like, I'm gonna act, but I didn't really know how, how that works. But I always loved it. It was the thing I was best at. And, um, and so that was a really great gift, because then I did loads of, um, plays and theatre in, in, like, my teenage years. And then I got my agent through National Youth Theatre and then that's kind of what set me off, so.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  And then normal people?

• 26:20Speaker 03

  And the normal people.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  And what was it like for that to come out and explode during a time when the world was shut down?

• 26:27Speaker 03

  It was, it was such a strange experience. Like, it, it was strange because Covid was so strange for us all. Um, but then there was so much of my life that, that continued to be different after it, because I came in with, you know, my life one way and came out with it very differently. So Covid was, it felt like a weird simulation where I was, like, stepping through a door of some kind and things just shifting and, you know. But I, I always think that, like, I'm very lucky that, in some ways, that Normal People, it's such a kind of, um, intimate and quiet show. And it really required people to, like, sit down and take it in. And I, I suppose we sort of, it was kind of the perfect climate for it to come out in a way.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  Um, because we're all really horny as well. So it was like, I need, you know, I need something to do, so.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  You were so fantastic in that. I mean, you're fantastic in everything, but.

• 27:15Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 27:16Speaker 01

  And you, you've also been in a lot of both films and television shows that have been adapted from books and stuff that isn't, that's an original screenplay. What's the difference in filming, like, something that's been adapted from written material or an original screenplay?

• 27:32Speaker 03

  Well, it's like, there's a lot more pressure in a way, because you're like, oh, you know, people have a love of the thing and, and have a love of the character and ideas. And, you know, when I, I get very attached to the version of the book in my head. So I totally understand that it can be difficult for an audience to, like, okay, accept the choices. But at the same time, I think what's so magic is that you get such a perspective on your characters in a life and you, you have such a wealth of knowledge to pull from. And, and I don't know, I think so much of it, too, is, is, is hoping that the filmmaker sensibility aligns with the, the book as well. Like, for Normal People, I feel like Lenny Abrahamson is a filmmaker. He ma, he's got such an incredible way of portraying, like, an inner life on screen.

• 28:14Speaker 03

  And he's a very sensitive filmmaker and it works so well for something like Sally's writing, which is so, um, you know, you, you really feel like you're in the character's head. There's, there's no.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  It's a very intimate read, you know? So, so that's so much of it, too, is like, does this filmmaker tonally match the, the, the writer? So it's, yeah.

• 28:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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• 30:10Speaker 01

  Did you grow up on like Skins and stuff?

• 30:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  I just started watching.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Wait, that's so funny. Somebody else just told me they started watching. It must have like, it's so good, isn't it?

• 30:19Speaker 01

  It's kind of the blueprint.

• 30:20Speaker 03

  Effie from Skins is the coolest human being that's ever existed.

• 30:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, you kind of like look like her.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  Seriously?

• 30:29Speaker 01

  Wait, yes, I think you do. Don't you agree?

• 30:32Speaker 03

  What?

• 30:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like very similar looking to Effie.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  That is an honor. I cannot tell you like that is, thank you.

• 30:38Speaker 01

  Was she like the blueprint for you guys in high school?

• 30:40Speaker 03

  I mean, I didn't do as many drugs as you can tell. I don't have the, the.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Right. Well, Effie did heroin.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  Temperament. She did a, she, they, I think honestly it kickstarted boozing culture. Well, there was always boozing culture in the UK, but like that kind of sort of um, party like wildness. But when you look at the show, there's so many incredible actors in it like Jack O'Connor, Dev Patel, like it's amazing.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  Nicholas Hol.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Nicholas Hol, who I'm about to work with actually, which I'm.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  What are you guys about to do?

• 31:06Speaker 03

  We're doing a TV show called Mosquito. Um, but I'm such a fan of his from that and from so much. So I'm so like, it's kind of like, again, younger me.

• 31:15Speaker 01

  Trippy for you to be like?

• 31:16Speaker 03

  Yes. I just worked with Rob Pattinson as well and I was a diehard Twilight fan. So like, it was a bit, it was trippy.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Do you want to one day act in the YA, like otherworldly, like dystopia and?

• 31:28Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Well, I, those were my favorite books to read. Like I was a huge fan of Hunger Games and Twilight and like, I loved, there was a book called The Knife of Never Letting Go and like Percy Jackson, like, I mean, those kinds of movies too, like Pirates of the Caribbean, Harry Potter. And I, I love those big world fantasies and also just like how fun is an actor that you get to wear like elf ears and a cloak. Do you know what I mean? Like that is the dream. So yeah, I mean, I'm reading all of Sarah J. Maas at the minute.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  What's Sarah J. Maas?

• 31:57Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Okay. Have you heard of A Court of Thorn and Roses?

• 32:01Speaker 01

  I've heard of this.

• 32:02Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  Is it that good? Is that she wrote, she writes this?

• 32:05Speaker 03

  It's, I cannot even describe it. It's, it's crazy. So A Court of Thorn and Roses was where I started. It's, it's, it's fairy porn essentially, but like, there's also like great characters and great plot, but it's quite like sexy.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  But when you read that, so the next two are coming out and then, so I started the Throne of Glass series, which is like different characters, but.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  I didn't know that was different.

• 32:29Speaker 03

  Still a fae world.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 32:31Speaker 03

  And apparently I've not finished it. Apparently it links with.

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 32:35Speaker 03

  Then there's the Crescent City series. It's like the Marvel universe. You basically have to read everything.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Are you a Marvel fan?

• 32:41Speaker 03

  I, I do love a bit of Marvel.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  I love Marvel.

• 32:43Speaker 03

  Do you know, it's funny, I've gone back, I've started watching them all again.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Which, which, which one are you on?

• 32:48Speaker 03

  I started with Iron Man one.

• 32:49Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:50Speaker 03

  Then I did the Incredible Hulk, the first one with um, Ed Norton. Then I did Iron Man two. Then I did Thor, then I did Captain America, then I did Avengers. Now I'm back to Iron Man three. I'm just making my way through.

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Those are some, those, talk about what I watched during COVID. I like literally ran through those movies.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  Which is your favorite, which is your favorite superhero? What's your favorite film?

• 33:15Speaker 01

  My favorite superhero is Wanda.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  I just think she's so fabulous. I think like Elizabeth Olsen is like so fabulous. Like I'm obsessed with her and like, I loved, did you see WandaVision?

• 33:27Speaker 03

  No, I haven't watched that.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  That's what everyone says. It's incredible.

• 33:31Speaker 01

  Oh my, it's one of the best TV shows I've ever seen in my entire life.

• 33:34Speaker 03

  Okay, fabulous.

• 33:34Speaker 01

  And it's like a Marvel show. You would never guess that like this Marvel show is like so, it is so, I like you sob at the end of it. It's, it's phenomenal.

• 33:43Speaker 03

  I'm so excited because I want to do all the, and then I want to get like, I want to do it in like chronological order. So, because I've never, there's a few, I've like, my knowledge of Marvel is a little like gappy. So I'm, this is why I was like, I've got to be thorough. I'm going to start from the top. So I'm so excited to get to WandaVision.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  You have to watch WandaVision after, and did you see, have you seen Endgame?

• 33:59Speaker 03

  No, I haven't seen Endgame. But then my boyfriend like ruined something big.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  Oh, what?

• 34:04Speaker 03

  He was so angry.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Oh, well, that's like an almost infamous spoiler.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  But I was like, for fuck's sake.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  To be honest, the only reason I knew that [BLEEP] is because, no, but everyone knows because there's a really famous tweet. Someone was like, someone tweeted like something about Taylor Swift and then a Swiftie tweeted back like, okay, since you want to be an asshole, like [BLEEP] in Endgame.

• 34:30Speaker 03

  No.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  Do you remember that?

• 34:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 34:32Speaker 01

  It's like, it's like iconic.

• 34:34Speaker 03

  Funny and so cruel.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  Oh my, I was, I was like, he was like, I thought everybody knew that. I was like, no, I managed to stay out of it.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Oh, I, oh, I mean, talk about spoilers. I got something spoiled for me. No, you've seen it in Skins.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  Oh no.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Yep. And I know you know what I'm talking about. Someone swiped up and we were like, can you believe blank, blank? And I said, hey, this is my first time watching.

• 34:55Speaker 03

  This is why like honestly, if I can remain offline, just like to like live through spoilers, like it's so difficult. It's so annoying.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  It's, it's, it's pretty bad. Are you, what are you watching on TV right now?

• 35:06Speaker 03

  What am I watching on telly? I, I just watched Widow's Bay.

• 35:10Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 35:12Speaker 03

  How good was that show? Like such a specific, its own tone in such an interesting way.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  It's scary and funny, which is so, so hard to do.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  Funny in a kind of like, oh, I just thought she was brilliant.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:24Speaker 03

  I mean, they're all brilliant.

• 35:25Speaker 01

  The one, the, the introverted one.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  Oh my God. I just thought her performance was so incredibly specific and like, like drummed in. I just, I loved it.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  Apple TV lowkey has banger shows.

• 35:36Speaker 03

  I totally agree. Have you seen um, uh, Presumed Innocence? Jake Gyllenhaal?

• 35:43Speaker 01

  Yes, I did see that.

• 35:44Speaker 03

  That was really good.

• 35:45Speaker 01

  That one was good. I just, I watched, do you watch Silo?

• 35:48Speaker 03

  No. Okay. That's nice. Do I need to? Is that really good?

• 35:51Speaker 01

  It's really good. But basically the first season is really good. The second season kind of takes a bit of a slump and the third season's outrageous.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  Okay. Well, I love her. She's amazing.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  Oh, she's, she's also in everything.

• 36:02Speaker 03

  Yes. I'm excited for Dune.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Okay. I've never seen Dune.

• 36:06Speaker 03

  What?

• 36:06Speaker 01

  I know.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  Where have you been?

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Under a rock. Like, is it that good?

• 36:11Speaker 03

  I mean, well, speaking of like brilliant franchise movies, like the ones we were talking about, like, you know, very different from Hunger Games and all of that, but like, I love those kinds of like event movies.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  I love big franchises. They're so much fun where you're all like tuned in. It's so brilliant. I mean, it's like such a great cast of young actors and of all, and all actors, but also just like Villeneuve is like, you can't beat. Yeah, I'd recommend.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  Okay. I need to, I need to watch it. Right now I'm doing my music biopics, but I'm going to go back to it.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  What are you on with those?

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Well, now I'm on Walk the Line.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  I love that you're doing like, yeah, that's quite fun. That you're like, yeah. And then the music biopic like.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Oh, I've become very hyper fixated.

• 36:47Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, very hyper fixated.

• 36:49Speaker 03

  Do you have a favorite musical biopic?

• 36:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, um, Love and Mercy, the Beach Boys one. Have you ever seen it?

• 36:53Speaker 03

  That's brilliant with Paul Dano.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, yes, yes.

• 36:56Speaker 03

  Amazing movie. Yes.

• 36:59Speaker 01

  It's, no, I like, I don't know what else to talk to about this. No one's seen it.

• 37:03Speaker 03

  It's so good. I watched that during COVID.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  It is amazing.

• 37:06Speaker 03

  It's so devastating.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  It's horribly devastating.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. His life was, and Paul Dano, like, Paul Dano.

• 37:12Speaker 01

  He's.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Can do no wrong.

• 37:13Speaker 01

  Can do no wrong.

• 37:14Speaker 03

  I love him.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  He's amazing.

• 37:16Speaker 03

  It's so good. That is a great movie.

• 37:18Speaker 01

  And it put me onto Pet Sounds, which is like, one of the best albums of all time.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  And also I think when you, like, when I grew up listening to Beach Boys, I think I thought of them as like, kind of light and kind of like, but when you sort of, when you delve into his work and his genius and you're like, oh wow, like the music takes on even more of a meaning, I think.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  I had no idea. Like I thought the Beach Boys was just very like, like shoot, do, do, do, do, do. But he's like, you in Love and Mercy, you see him, he's like, like, like putting these harmonies like in, but like, he's like, he like, Brian Wilson like created, like for those that don't know, like he like created like new, like legitimate new sounds in music.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  It was so inventive and so, I mean, also um, what's the, what's the song? Oh my God, I'm now doing an.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  God only knows.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  That song is so beautiful. Like, and I can't believe that was B-side, wasn't it?

• 38:07Speaker 01

  I know. No, that I don't know, but I do know that in, in the movie he plays in, they're like, no one's ever going to listen to this. This is the most depressing song ever.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  It's so beautiful. And I think it is B-side. I believe that like it didn't even make the A-side. Like they didn't think.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  It's so funny. Most songs are like that. Most breakout songs are like that. Like Nicki Minaj really took off because Super Bass was a B-side song.

• 38:29Speaker 03

  No way.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was a bonus track.

• 38:31Speaker 03

  What was her like pitch with A-side? What was her like?

• 38:33Speaker 01

  I think it was, I forget, but Super Bass was a B-side bonus track and it just exploded.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 38:39Speaker 01

  And like same with, I'm pretty sure Chaparron, like Good Luck Babe was like.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  The, like another, just like an add on.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Like an off single and it blew up and exploded her. Like it always happens with the B-side tracks.

• 38:49Speaker 03

  It's also really cool that like, I think with today's world, that music can come out, not have its, not necessarily have its moment, and then four years later can suddenly like catch on. Like I was listening to a thing with Suki Waterhouse recently and she was like, oh, I wrote that. I can't remember the song name, but she wrote it like four years before and then suddenly out of nowhere TikTok took over and it was the thing. It's kind of wild.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  I love Suki Waterhouse. What's that song I love by her? Moves? Yeah.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  She's so good live too. She's like, she has this wind machine and because she looks like she's from like a different era, like the sixties. She's just like, she's the hottest thing since sliced bread. Is that a phrase?

• 39:28Speaker 01

  What are you listening to right now though?

• 39:30Speaker 03

  Ooh. Well, I'm in my like, I think just because I think I need some peace in my life. I'm in a very chill, peace. Era of my music. I'm very into this singer called Jessica Pratt.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Okay, I've never heard of her.

• 39:45Speaker 03

  She has this one song called like, um, she's, it's hard to describe her music. Her voice is incredible, but it's like quite like lo-fi and like, it's like perfect for like an autumn day.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  Where you put it on with the fire and you're making like a cup of tea. It's very relaxed and cozy and that's what I need. I've had my, my Brat Summer and I loved it, but I need, I need to be chill now.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  What was Brat Summer like for you?

• 40:08Speaker 03

  I lived up my Brat Summer. I, I think I really, I really like took the assignment and ran with it. So it was, it was maybe the best year of my life.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  I think it was the best year of my life as well.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  Something happened.

• 40:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I, and I look back and I, and I was so much less confident back then, but I was having so much more fun, which is so weird.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  That's interesting.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  I know.

• 40:29Speaker 03

  So what do you think shift? What? So you feel like now you feel more confident?

• 40:33Speaker 01

  I feel a little more comf- I, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it was. I, I just, I think Brat Summer was like my, the first time I've ever had actual fun in my life.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:43Speaker 01

  I was like, oh, this is like, we're allowed to like go out and party and it's encouraged.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Do you think? Cause are we the same age? How old are you?

• 40:49Speaker 01

  I'm 26.

• 40:50Speaker 03

  26. Okay. So I'm 28. I feel like our generation was slightly like stopped by COVID in terms of the partying thing. Like, I feel like I remember being 18, being like, I'm gonna go clubbing. Like that was, and then I feel like COVID obviously took away that ability. But then I also feel like coming out of COVID, like I felt very tentative about.

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  Like.

• 41:14Speaker 01

  It was very much like a, a full stop.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  It like cut the leg, like, like cut the legs off it a little bit.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  Then people kind of had the excuse to be like, well, do you see how much better you feel without it? And it's like, yeah, but nothing compares to a good night out.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  No. And now I feel like I'm with you at the ripe age of 28, which feels like a little late in the game, but I'm like, it's good. I feel like now I'm starting to get my like, even just my, uh, my like a capacity to stay out. Like I think I, I get really tired at like midnight. I'm like bed time.

• 41:41Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 41:41Speaker 03

  It's so, I'm like, what is that? I'm meant to be young and alive.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  No, I didn't. Alcohol like exhausts me.

• 41:46Speaker 03

  I get so sleepy.

• 41:47Speaker 01

  Me too. But also the curfew in LA is like 2 AM. So there's like.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  I've noticed that.

• 41:51Speaker 01

  It sucks.

• 41:52Speaker 03

  So London, you enjoyed?

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Oh, I, I, you should do the Uber ride.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, we got home at like 7 AM.

• 41:59Speaker 03

  Incredible.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  It was awesome. London's the best. I was walking the streets of London. The sun was coming up.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  Oh, it's so fun.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  This is amazing.

• 42:06Speaker 03

  Oh, there's also a really great, next time you go, there's a great, I can't remember the name of it, so I'll find it, but there's a great restaurant that's open all night. And you can like have like a really good quality yummy steak and eggs at like three in the morning after like, so usually I go for a kebab, but it's like, if you're feeling a bit posh, you can have a steak and eggs at like 3 AM.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  What's your favorite? Do, are you a Wagamama girl?

• 42:26Speaker 03

  I do love Wagamamas. I'm a Nando's girl though.

• 42:29Speaker 01

  Okay. I've never gotten into Nando's.

• 42:31Speaker 03

  What?

• 42:32Speaker 01

  I, I don't know why I never, I never did it. I was always like, when I'm in London, I'm always like, I'm always eating Wagamamas like all the time.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  Interesting. You should get into Nando's. I feel like I heard a fun fact about Nando's. They play quite intense music. So sometimes I'll find it a lot in there. It's very like high beats. But apparently they, they up the BPM rush hour. So you eat quicker. They get more people in and out.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  That makes sense.

• 42:55Speaker 03

  So when I'm in there, I'm eating quite quickly, but I like Wagam- I like Wagamamas. I love the katsui curry.

• 43:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 43:01Speaker 03

  What's your order?

• 43:02Speaker 01

  I like the, the chili ramen. The chili ramen and I love the fried squid. And the, and they're on the Wagamama and they have one in New York and it just doesn't compare to the one in London.

• 43:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, it hits differently in London.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  Oh God, London's the best.

• 43:15Speaker 03

  I love that you love London.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  I, I just love, I tell you, I love the culture. Like I'm like obsessed with it. I want to dress up as one of the Oasis brothers for Halloween.

• 43:23Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Eat my sausage rolls like, and what, what do you guys do on, uh, Christmas? You pull the?

• 43:28Speaker 03

  Crackers?

• 43:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  Christmas crackers?

• 43:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  Do you not do that here?

• 43:31Speaker 01

  No.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  It's so fun though.

• 43:33Speaker 01

  I know. And you pull.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  And then you get really terrible jokes and like a copper hat and a terrible gift, but sometimes they come in handy, like a tiny mini cheese grater.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  I love that. Would you, could you live in London, do you think?

• 43:45Speaker 01

  See, that I don't know. Because when it, I've heard like, when it gets to the dark days in London, like it gets really dark and twisted.

• 43:54Speaker 03

  Pretty dark.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:55Speaker 03

  It is, it is, it is. There's like a sort of February period that is tough. It's tough. Cause it's just a sort of like incessant gray.

• 44:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  Um, but I like a bit of drama with the weather. Like I like a season change. Like I think a little shifty pops where you're suddenly like, oh, who am I in autumn? Now I'm wearing like sweaters and I, I like that kind of, I like a bit of rain.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  As a Londoner.

• 44:19Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  What are your thoughts on Cathy Nero?

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Okay. Do you know what? Great question because obviously we've got, we've got Costa Coffee, we've got Cathy Nero, we've got Starbucks, we've got Pretz, you know, this is sort of the like McDonald's coffee as well, obviously. But I, I would definitely lean Nero. I would lean Nero.

• 44:39Speaker 01

  Thank you. Because me and all my friends were in London and we were like, we're obsessed with Cathy Nero. They had this like honey, iced Americano. And people were literally commenting, get the fuck out of London. Like please leave now. Like go away. Like how is this the coffee place you're going to? We, we were obsessed with it.

• 44:54Speaker 03

  No, I'm with you. I think Nero, I like that they can off, they sometimes offer you the blend. They're like, do you want a darker blend? I like to blend. Like I like.

• 45:00Speaker 01

  I never even knew that.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  Yeah. Sometimes they, you have a blend choice. And I feel like, cause I don't do dairy, so it's challenging to find like a coffee that is made with almond milk that doesn't taste like, like a cigarette, like the, like cigarette butts.

• 45:14Speaker 01

  Well, Cathy Nero has that.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  The iced honey Americano.

• 45:18Speaker 03

  It's good.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  With almond milk.

• 45:19Speaker 03

  It's actually good.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  It's the best thing I've ever had in my life.

• 45:21Speaker 03

  Oh my God. I'm, I'm so, I'm.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  You have to get in, you have to tell me if you like it.

• 45:24Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 45:25Speaker 01

  Also, I re-watched Twisters last night.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  Oh, did you? Were you blown away?

• 45:30Speaker 01

  I, I, I was blown away and I was wondering how did you, were you just like, was it constant wind on your face the entire time?

• 45:37Speaker 03

  I think I still am slightly deaf in my left ear because there was so much debris and wind that was like entering from a shop left. But no, it was, it was a windy shoot. But it was quite ironic because we were shooting in Oklahoma and often would have to like shut down filming because of an actual wind storm.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 45:54Speaker 03

  To then recreate a windstorm once it's like passed. It was a wild experience.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  But what I was confused about, I know this sounds so silly, but what is the, cause when I speak to Glenn, he like, Glenn, you guys talk to like real storm chasers.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  We went on a chase.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  What?

• 46:09Speaker 03

  Yes, we fully went on a storm chase.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Was it scary?

• 46:11Speaker 03

  So scary. Like it was so fun because obviously we'd been pretending to play storm chasers and we'd like met with these guys. There was one guy, Sean, who's amazing. He still like sends Glenn and I off day.

• 46:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I was with Glenn the other week in Paris and he was like, look at this storm that, when Daisy and I did Twisters.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Sean will still be like, oh, by the way, there's like a crazy weather front coming. If you like see yourself like coming through Oklahoma, like hit me up. And like one day I'm like, cause we didn't see a tornado. It kind of like began and then it, it didn't happen, which is often the case that like you chase and chase and it doesn't happen. So it's why it's such a thrill when it does. So I, I definitely want to go back, but no, it was crazy. We like drove across state. We drove into Kansas and it was like midnight. And all this crazy sheet lightning was happening. And I remember there was like a hook on the Doppler, which like signifies it's like beginning. And Sean was like, I think it's to our left. And I was like, oh wait, we're not filming a movie like this is actually happening. I was like, what am I doing here?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  And then it ultimately like didn't, didn't happen, but we still saw the like gnarliest lightning and rain. And then we drove back in like rain that was so dense that like, it was essentially like just like full, it was.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Oh, and then when it's just like spinning out.

• 47:24Speaker 03

  Yeah. And you can't see like, we had to drive like so slowly all the way home. And like me, Glenn and Brandon were just like fast asleep in the back of the car. But it was, yeah, it was ama- it was an amazing experience.

• 47:33Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 47:33Speaker 03

  Have you ever seen a tornado?

• 47:35Speaker 01

  No, never.

• 47:36Speaker 03

  Where did you grow up?

• 47:37Speaker 01

  I grew up in New York.

• 47:38Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  But so the only.

• 47:39Speaker 03

  They had tornadoes.

• 47:40Speaker 01

  We, we had Hurricane Sandy. That was our, that was, that was the big one. That was like, we didn't go to school for a week.

• 47:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  And miss Halloween. Cause it was ruined by the hurricane. Anyhow.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Daisy, what are you therapist about today?

• 48:00Speaker 03

  I'm pissed that I have to fly home because I'm scared of flying.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  Are you really?

• 48:04Speaker 03

  I'm terr- I'm terrified. And even though like I have to fly like every single, like so much, I, every single time I, it's like, this is the end.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  Are you a podcast person? I'm playing music, movies?

• 48:16Speaker 03

  I listen to a calm app meditation that like tells me to breathe. Um, and I walk like grip the seat like every time we take off. I always have to text my parents and my boyfriend to say like, I love you, just in case it's the last time, even if they're sat next to me and we're on the same flight. Like it's now become a thing I have to do. But no, I then try and watch loads of movies. What about you?

• 48:38Speaker 01

  I, it depends. I, I never listen to podcasts, which is funny because I have one.

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Really? Do you not?

• 48:44Speaker 01

  I know I never do.

• 48:45Speaker 03

  Do you listen to your own?

• 48:46Speaker 01

  No, well, I have to, to like give notes.

• 48:49Speaker 03

  But you're not just like on a plane being like, that was a good episode.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  Well, the only podcasts I listen to are true crime podcasts and I listen to them on planes.

• 48:55Speaker 03

  Serial?

• 48:55Speaker 01

  And it puts me, yes, and it puts me to bed.

• 48:57Speaker 03

  That's.

• 48:57Speaker 01

  Every single time. Yeah. It's like, I'm just like, I'm like, cause you, cause when I, I have such bad ADHD, then when I have to pay attention to something, it makes me so exhausted.

• 49:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Pass out.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  You guys, I'm not even doing this. I, I didn't even force her to eat these. She grabbed these herself and you love them.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  I absolutely love them. If I see a sweetie, I'm having it.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  Okay. Can I, can I show you the sour pus?

• 49:24Speaker 03

  It would be an honor.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Okay. Oh, they smell so good. I actually can't.

• 49:28Speaker 03

  Mmm.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Right?

• 49:31Speaker 03

  Oh my God, they're so sour. I, I love them. Whoa.

• 49:34Speaker 01

  Right?

• 49:36Speaker 03

  That's really good.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Isn't that amazing?

• 49:38Speaker 03

  I'm taking these home.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  Wait, we'll, I will give you, we'll like, no, we'll give you like a whole pack.

• 49:43Speaker 03

  Oh my God. What are the different flavors? So.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  So it's cherry, that one's strawberry.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Oh, interesting.

• 49:48Speaker 01

  That one's strawberry and then blue raspberry. That's blue raspberry.

• 49:51Speaker 03

  That looks like that is gonna.

• 49:52Speaker 01

  That's my favorite.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  That's gonna knock my socks off.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Oh my god. So good.

• 49:59Speaker 01

  It's so good, right?

• 50:00Speaker 03

  I love sour sweets.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I'm so happy you love them.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  What else? What are the other flavors?

• 50:05Speaker 01

  And cherry. It's just because I hate like those are like I like berry flavors. So I wanted them to all be like berry and like cherry to me counts as like a berry.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  Is that cherry?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's fire. That one, low key, that and blue raspberry are my two favorites.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. I really, I love sour sweets.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  Yep, they're amazing, right?

• 50:20Speaker 03

  Sorry that noise was great.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  No, but they're amazing. I'm so glad you love them.

• 50:25Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:26Speaker 03

  That's my favorite.

• 50:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's good, right?

• 50:28Speaker 03

  Wow. They're really good.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Uh, you are a fellow fan of reality television.

• 50:33Speaker 03

  Massively.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  What do you watch?

• 50:35Speaker 03

  So Made in Chelsea is my, my absolute.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  Is it that good? I've never seen it.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  You've never seen it?

• 50:41Speaker 01

  No.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  Do you know why I love Made in Chelsea? It's because they always go to like really nice restaurants and they have like really lovely clothes. And like, it's just, it's like, it, it brings lots to its, you know, to the table.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:54Speaker 03

  But it's, you know, it's basically just posh people having relationship issues, but I could watch it all day, every day.

• 50:59Speaker 01

  And how long has it been around for?

• 51:00Speaker 03

  Oh, it's been around, I can't even, I think I've been watching it since I was 11, like.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  Oh, whoa.

• 51:06Speaker 03

  And it's still going.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  And it's just one series, just this Made in Chelsea and it's a rotating cast or?

• 51:11Speaker 03

  It's a rotating cast, but like me and my friend Sylvie love it so much that we've like gone back and we like started it from the beginning and like, it's, it's so good. I, I would really recommend.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  Have you ever done Housewives?

• 51:21Speaker 03

  Yes, I have done Housewives.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Okay, which ones have you done?

• 51:24Speaker 03

  I've done Beverly Hills.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Great.

• 51:25Speaker 03

  With my mom. She's a big Housewives fan.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  Ah, I would love your mom.

• 51:28Speaker 03

  She, I've also done Salt Lake City.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  Ah, Daisy.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  It's so good.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Daisy, that's my favorite one.

• 51:33Speaker 03

  It's so good.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  Daisy, that's my favorite one.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  It's crazy. Well, I was playing a Mormon, so I was like, this is research.

• 51:38Speaker 01

  Oh my god, yes. And under, under the banner of heaven.

• 51:40Speaker 03

  Yes, I was like, this is technically research, isn't it? Because obviously that she's from there. So, oh my god.

• 51:45Speaker 01

  No.

• 51:46Speaker 03

  That is crazy.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 51:47Speaker 03

  Crazy.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Do you watch New York?

• 51:49Speaker 03

  I haven't. I, I then went on to Vanderpump Rules and then.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  That's her favorite show of all time.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's so good. If I could meet Lisa Vanderpump, it would be amazing. I'm so sad. Is it Ziggy?

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Ziggy died?

• 52:01Speaker 03

  Ziggy's, Ziggy died.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  I just remember when Lisa left Beverly Hills because she finally got called out for, and she couldn't take it. But that was like the ultimate betrayal by Kyle.

• 52:10Speaker 03

  Oh my god. I mean, it's cra- it's like, it's such, I could be a fly on the wall in those shows. It's, it's so, if you could be in any of the shows, which would you?

• 52:18Speaker 01

  So I think Salt Lake.

• 52:19Speaker 03

  Salt Lake.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Because they know the assignment and they, they really understand it.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Or, yeah, Salt Lake, because like they like, every episode, like they, they ha- they, I think they think they have nothing to lose. So they just balls to the wallet.

• 52:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:34Speaker 01

  And they just like, there was an entire episode this season. Are, are you caught up with Salt Lake?

• 52:38Speaker 03

  No, I'm not caught up.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Okay, this season was.

• 52:40Speaker 03

  I've fallen off. I need to get back on.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Utterly fantastic. And there was a see, there was an episode where they all go to lunch. And there's normally in a Housewives episode, you have them at the house getting ready for lunch, them dealing with their partners. This episode was a straight hour of them just screaming at each other at lunch while they would get eat one by one, get pulled off to get read by a psychic.

• 53:01Speaker 03

  No.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Yes, and they would all cry and then come back and start screaming at each other like.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  That's iconic.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  Have you ever been to a psychic?

• 53:08Speaker 01

  No, I get scared.

• 53:09Speaker 03

  I get scared.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  I don't want them to tell me something I don't want to hear and I don't want to put it out to the world.

• 53:14Speaker 03

  And then maybe like manifest it by, by thinking it's gonna happen.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  I know, I'm with you. I have no interest.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  And are you like, does, as, do any of your friends do psychics? Does your boyfriend do psychics?

• 53:25Speaker 03

  No, no, he doesn't, but he, I have a lot of friends, there's a lot of tarot that goes around. We do a lot of tarot. I don't mind that. That's nice. I like that.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  And that's just like card reading, right?

• 53:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's like, you know, you wake up and you pull a card or you, there's lots of ways of doing it, but there's, I, I have, one friend has fairy cards, which are cute, which he tells you are fairies of the year. I like that one. But, um, but no, I don't do anything too, too hardcore.

• 53:48Speaker 01

  I'm big on astrology right now.

• 53:49Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, so what are you?

• 53:51Speaker 01

  I'm a Scorpio.

• 53:51Speaker 03

  Okay. Oh, I like Scorpios.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  And you're a Gemini, right?

• 53:54Speaker 03

  I am a Gemini.

• 53:54Speaker 01

  I'm a Gemini, rising Gemini moon. I think that's why we get along so well.

• 53:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've got a bit of Gemini, Jiminy, Jiminy.

• 54:00Speaker 01

  Gemini, Gemini.

• 54:01Speaker 03

  Jiminy M and G.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Gemini.

• 54:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  But I'm big, I, I mean, it's always correct.

• 54:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  Like the.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Oh, it is.

• 54:08Speaker 01

  I was hungover the other day and I read my app, what's it, Shane Louise? Ch- Chaney, Chaney, and it was like, don't feel bad about partying. And I was literally like, oh my god, how did they know?

• 54:19Speaker 03

  That is, but, oh, okay, this is crazy. Have you been told about your Saturn return?

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm now apparently in it.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, you are.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  I'm shitting myself.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  Like, are you okay?

• 54:30Speaker 03

  I don't know, because again, I'm like, oh no, am I manifesting it? But like, everyone I meet, when I'm like, oh, I'm 28, I just turned 28, they're like, whoa, buckle up, like.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:40Speaker 03

  This is like, the shit is gonna hit the fan.

• 54:43Speaker 01

  But I think it could, I think it could go, it's not, I don't think a Saturn return is inherently bad. It's just like, your life falls into place.

• 54:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, and I think like, I do, I do think there's something that can, well, even what you were talking about, about like confidence. I do think there is something that does happen in your late twenties where you start to find your voice and you're like, like, earn your confidence and like, love yourself more. I do think that I can, I'm noticing that happen. Like, I'm noticing myself grow from the things I've learned that have been difficult, like, I'm enjoying that. So I suppose you're right. There's like, any lesson is a good lesson. Um, so just hopefully it's not too bad.

• 55:20Speaker 01

  No, I think, I think it just, I really just think it puts your life on track. She's in the middle of hers right now too, and her life is on, your life is going great.

• 55:28Speaker 03

  It's good.

• 55:29Speaker 01

  Her life is, no, her life is, um, like, right now?

• 55:31Speaker 03

  It's the best it's ever been.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Right now, you're up.

• 55:33Speaker 03

  Real, I think it's that, it's realignment. Yeah, I do feel, I do feel the same. It's good right now, but we'll see.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  But I, it also like can manifest in your like body. Like I like, like my body has start, has started to like creak a bit. And that's like what I consider like my Saturn return.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're like, my knees are going.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  No, like my wrist, earlier this summer I had a brace. I had like, I had like, oh, it was the worst thing on planet earth. And I, I'm the biggest hypochondriac. I think I read that you are as well.

• 55:59Speaker 03

  I am too.

• 55:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:00Speaker 03

  How do you deal with it?

• 56:01Speaker 01

  Not well.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's tough. It's actually really tough.

• 56:04Speaker 01

  My dad is one as well.

• 56:06Speaker 03

  So he's like, go to hospital, you've got a minute to live.

• 56:08Speaker 01

  I was constipated last year, sorry, TMI, and he told me to go to the hospital.

• 56:14Speaker 03

  I had a run in with some beetroot. I won't tell you more of the details on that one.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 56:19Speaker 03

  You can imagine.

• 56:19Speaker 01

  I can imagine.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  I genuinely was like.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Hospital.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was like, this is crazy. Like, I'm, I've got a week to live.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, my dad sent me a paragraph yesterday. Like, he called me on Tuesday and my hangover obviously had, was still prolonging. He was like, why do you sound so tired? I was like, well, I'm, I'm hungover. I just got back from London. Paragraph, colon cancer.

• 56:38Speaker 03

  No.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Like, crazy, crazy. Like, I was like, please.

• 56:42Speaker 03

  Cause you're like, let me be hungover. It's a, it's a rite of passage. I'll be all right. I just need to eat some chips.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Right?

• 56:47Speaker 03

  That's the cure.

• 56:48Speaker 01

  What's your hungover cure?

• 56:50Speaker 03

  Um, well, reality telly, absolutely. Like a day on the sofa watching telly with your mates. And then, oh god, like chips, like pasta and chips, like.

• 56:59Speaker 01

  Pasta, yeah.

• 57:00Speaker 03

  I just need like salt and like carbs and like, that's what I want, like chips.

• 57:03Speaker 01

  Pho is the best hangover cure. It is this big, like, bowl of like, it's like either chicken broth or beef broth, or you can get vegan broth and with rice noodles. And you put, um, uh, jalapenos in it and sriracha and it's spicy and it opens up all your sinuses and hydrates you. It's the best.

• 57:21Speaker 03

  And bone broth's good for your.

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 57:22Speaker 03

  Like your gut and all of that. Oh, that's great.

• 57:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's amazing.

• 57:25Speaker 03

  Pho. Okay, I'm gonna get some pho in me.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  You also watch Below Deck?

• 57:29Speaker 03

  Yes, I was gonna say, if I were to be in a reality telly, I think the show, it would be.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  What? I'd never gotten into it.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Really?

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  That was like, I actually had to like, um, take us about, like, I had to take myself out of it, the situation, because it was like, it was like, all I was doing was watching Below Deck. Like, it was like actually a problem. Like, it was making me unhappy.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  Wait, why? Why was it making you unhappy?

• 57:50Speaker 03

  Just because I was like, I, I have not achieved anything. All I wanna do is watch this show and like ultimately like, it's not necessarily like, bringing me much other than, you know, I know a lot now about the inner workings of a yacht, but it is exceptional. It is exceptional telly.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  And they like all, do they, they all beef under, under?

• 58:08Speaker 03

  They beef, but they like hook up and then there's a sort of like fun because there's different guests on every show.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 58:13Speaker 03

  And like, there's like, the first series, there's like a British chef called, I think he's got spiky hair, I can't remember his name. That, that, it's just like, cause you're sort of like also going on holiday with these guys. Like, you're like seeing parts of the world and, no, it's, to be like, I'll give you a warning before you watch though, because it's, it's, it's addictive.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and Below Deck had a crossover this season.

• 58:34Speaker 03

  Shut up.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 58:35Speaker 03

  They went on a yacht?

• 58:36Speaker 01

  Yes, and there's an episode of Below Deck with the Real Housewives and there's an episode of the Real Housewives with. And it was one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen in my entire life.

• 58:45Speaker 03

  That's incredible.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have to, you have to do it.

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Have you ever, uh, watched Industry?

• 58:51Speaker 03

  Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. What a great show.

• 58:53Speaker 01

  What a great show.

• 58:53Speaker 03

  I haven't watched the, the most recent season though, and everyone says that is the one.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  As long as you have nothing spoiled for you, like, the character development of Yaz is like some of the most insane, eh, by the end of. What, I think this is season four. You don't recognize her.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  It's, I would do it if I were you.

• 59:09Speaker 03

  It's so, okay, I've watched the first two seasons.

• 59:11Speaker 01

  You haven't seen the third?

• 59:12Speaker 03

  No.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  It's the best one.

• 59:14Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:14Speaker 01

  The third, the finale of the third, I don't think they, I think they thought they weren't possibly getting a season four.

• 59:21Speaker 03

  So they went like.

• 59:22Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I have full body chills thinking about it. It is one of the best episodes of television I have ever, ever seen. And I know I've said that about ten times this episode. But I really mean it with that.

• 59:31Speaker 03

  Okay, that's really, okay.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:33Speaker 03

  Okay, I need to download it. That's what I'm gonna do on my flight home. I'm gonna watch it.

• 59:36Speaker 01

  And you let me know.

• 59:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  Okay, we have a segment on the show called the Tell Me What's Wrongs. Where the pussies write in and they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice. I've been lying to my family about having a boyfriend for a few months now. I'm in college and they keep on asking when I'm gonna bring someone home. So now I just made up a dude and plan on breaking up before the holidays. Okay, so she doesn't have a boyfriend. I sent pictures to the, our family group chat of quote us. It was a random guy I found on campus. But my brother recognized him, texted that guy and exposed me in my family group chat. I want revenge so badly.

• 1:00:08Speaker 03

  Wait, oh my gosh. That is big drama. Hold on a minute. So she, she pretended she had a boyfriend.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  Her family was like, do you have a boyfriend? She was like, yes, just to get them off her back. And then she like basically made up that she had a boyfriend and her brother exposed her.

• 1:00:23Speaker 03

  Exposed it. I wonder why she made up having a boyfriend.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  I don't know, right? I'm like, I've never had a boyfriend and I would never lie about it.

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  I can't lie.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  Are you, I'm not very lying.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  I'm the, it gives me the worst anxiety. I've, I've, I feel like the most guilt I've ever felt in my entire life.

• 1:00:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm with you. I, I feel like you can see it on my face.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, and I just like, it eats me alive at night.

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:47Speaker 01

  Like, when I was like gay and a kid and like closeted, I literally thought I was lying. So I was like, I would like be in bed being like, I'm literally lying.

• 1:00:55Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  I know. So that's why I came out when I was like ten.

• 1:00:58Speaker 03

  Oh, I know, and you were like, I can't, I can't, I can't hide it anymore.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  And then I asked my mom for a toy and she said no.

• 1:01:04Speaker 03

  Wait, what type of toy?

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  I was like, can I have this like random toy? And she was like, like, no. Like, I thought I deserved a present for like coming out to her.

• 1:01:11Speaker 03

  Oh, right, I see. You were like, I need.

• 1:01:12Speaker 01

  And by the way, if my kid came out to me, I would give them a fucking present.

• 1:01:15Speaker 03

  Absolutely, especially at ten being like, I know myself and I wanna say this to you. I love that.

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  I don't know how this girl can get revenge on her brother. I'm not a big believer in revenge.

• 1:01:22Speaker 03

  I, listen, I think, I think ultimately if you take revenge, you ultimately are punishing yourself. Because it doesn't feel good to be, to be mean and malicious. And I think, listen, you sit the person down, you say, that hurt my feelings. I understand why you did it, but I don't appreciate, you know, you could have come to me first because, you know. Or maybe she could discuss with her brother why she feels she needs to lie about having a boyfriend and maybe there would be a bonding experience.

• 1:01:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:01:48Speaker 03

  I agree. I think revenge or being, like, don't hold a grudge. Just move on. It's easier.

• 1:01:53Speaker 01

  Or watch Normal People, cause your character in Normal People has the worst brother on God's green earth.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Yes, and then you might appreciate your brother.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  Wait, I was actually like floored. When I watched, I was like, how, how is this real?

• 1:02:05Speaker 03

  He was a villain.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  He hated you.

• 1:02:07Speaker 03

  He just hated her. He just couldn't stand her.

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

• 1:02:12Speaker 03

  It was, he just really couldn't.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  You were so excellent in that show.

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:02:16Speaker 01

  I'm sure you hear it every day, but that, I think I need to re-watch Normal People.

• 1:02:20Speaker 03

  If you, if your heart can take it.

• 1:02:21Speaker 01

  I know, I know.

• 1:02:22Speaker 03

  Sad.

• 1:02:23Speaker 01

  My new boyfriend's friends suck. He just invited all of them over to hang out and they're actually the worst, annoying, loud. He really comes out of his shell around them, which is nice for him, but I can't stand these guys. What do I say to him?

• 1:02:36Speaker 03

  Oh, that's such a hard thing, isn't it?

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  Have you ever been in a situation where you hated your partner's friends?

• 1:02:41Speaker 03

  No, I haven't, but I've, I've hated my friends' partners.

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  And how do you handle that?

• 1:02:49Speaker 03

  You can't.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:50Speaker 03

  You know, not hated, I don't hate anyone, but I, where you feel like, oh, I don't know if that's the best thing for you.

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:56Speaker 03

  That's tough. But I think that like, it's hard if it's your partner and it, and he comes out, but then it's like the version of him that comes out. Do you like that version? Again, commute, look, honestly, the key to a healthy relationship is figuring out how to communicate healthily. And it's so difficult, but I think you can totally just say, hey, like, I noticed this part. This facet of you comes out and I like to see it cause I love that you're happy, but I feel a bit uncomfortable around this person or I find this facet of them difficult. Just see how he takes it. But I mean, I suppose it's hard, it's a difficult one. What would you, what would you say?

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  I would say maybe that, I'm like, literally dripping sweat. Can you tell I'm dripping sweat by the way?

• 1:03:36Speaker 03

  You just look glowing. You don't, you don't, you don't look. But when, we'll, we'll shelve this episode. It won't come out.

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, like literally, by the way, as you were talking, I felt a drop, like drop down my face and I was like, cool.

• 1:03:51Speaker 01

  If you hate your partner's friends, I would, I think you should break up.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Do you think you should break up?

• 1:03:56Speaker 01

  I do. I think it's not, it is a recipe for complete and utter disaster. Cause I've had friends that have had, their partners have hated me.

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  That's horrible.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  And that just, it doesn't work. It doesn't work. It really doesn't work. Like your friends are your chosen family.

• 1:04:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:15Speaker 01

  And like, it, and it's not like he hates your, if you hated his family, it's different cause he can't choose that. But like, your friends being your chosen family, like, there's something really special to that, that like, like. Like, those are a reflection of him just as much as he's a reflection of them. And like, I don't know if it's gonna work.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  I know what you mean. I suppose also like, people contain multitudes. There may be a way that you could like, I would maybe suggest having some one-on-one time with, with each friend. Because if you love your partner and you see great things in them, then they mu, he must see more to that person than you have maybe seen. So I would maybe like, do you do diligence if you love your partner? See each person, see if you can find the kernel of what makes them special to that, to your partner.

• 1:05:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  If it's not there.

• 1:05:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:03Speaker 03

  Then maybe.

• 1:05:04Speaker 01

  Move on.

• 1:05:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  My friend's son had his first birthday, first baby in the friend group. At the party, I thought it would be funny to blow out the candles. Now my friend is pissed as fuck. Said I shouldn't have ruined his moment. It's not like he'll remember. He's a baby. It was funny. Now she says I need to apologize to the baby, question mark? Wait, I would be, I would be, first of all, not only would I do that, but if that happened to me, I would be so angry. Would you not be furious if someone blew out your baby's candles?

• 1:05:37Speaker 03

  I think it's funny. I, I think it's funny.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  There must be something deeper. Like, she must make everything about herself.

• 1:05:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, there is because like, cause to be fair, you would be like, oh, what, you'd just be like, oh, for god's sake, don't have to really light them and then, you know. But it's also not that deep because they are one.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:05:54Speaker 03

  But.

• 1:05:54Speaker 01

  I would make it a bit, be like, apologize to the baby and be like, is this what you wanted?

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  The truth is though, like, a baby can't blow.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  Like, how is it gonna blow out? Like, somebody has to do it. Right, so actually it's her. She wished she wanted to blow out her baby's candles and make her baby's wish.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  See, when you look at it like that.

• 1:06:13Speaker 03

  I see.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  It's sad.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  That is sad. That was a big moment for her.

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  And she, it's her baby's first birthday. I know, I'd be so pissed.

• 1:06:19Speaker 03

  Couldn't she just relight the candles and?

• 1:06:21Speaker 01

  No, it's not the same. I'd be so angry. I'd be like, are you serious? But I'd also laugh. Like, if my best friend Peyton did that, I'd be like.

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  Funny.

• 1:06:28Speaker 01

  I'd laugh.

• 1:06:29Speaker 03

  It's funny.

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  And also, cause the baby is probably just like, you know, can't even.

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  Doesn't even.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  They can't do anything.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  Do you have a, do you have a bunch of friends with babies?

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  Do you have a baby?

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:06:38Speaker 03

  Not yet. Um, no, I don't, actually.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  I recently have had a lot of friends with babies.

• 1:06:45Speaker 03

  Oh, I love babies.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  With them. I'm obsessed with the babies.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  I love babies. It's funny though, there is a point where you suddenly see babies and you're like, oh.

• 1:06:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  It's like, it just happens. Like, it started with me with dogs. I like, like dogs and now I'm like, I need a dog more than anything.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:07:00Speaker 03

  And now I'm starting to see babies and I'm like, their tiny hands are so cute.

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  No, the, the hands. It's the hands do it for me every single time.

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:07:06Speaker 01

  And their little walks, their little wobbles, like, oh, I can't take it.

• 1:07:10Speaker 03

  And also it just gives you perspective, isn't it? You're like, oh, it's just that, life's about being silly, isn't it? It's just sort of walking around.

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  And they don't, they have no perception of like the world like we do. It's so insane.

• 1:07:20Speaker 03

  Oh, is it mad seeing your friends like jeans, like, is it mad seeing your friends as parents?

• 1:07:25Speaker 01

  Yes. My, like, it's, it's just crazy. Like, they become a more calmer version of themselves.

• 1:07:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:35Speaker 01

  Like, because their life is now, like Carrie Washington, like when she was on the show, she said like, when she had her kid, it's like she was like wearing her, like her heart was outside of her body.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  And you can like see that on their faces. Like, like you can see like they, like everything they do is for their kid.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, and suddenly you're like, oh, I think, I think that's it. It just puts everything into perspective. You're like, oh, as long as I can keep this, this little person happy and alive. I'm, I'm nailing life.

• 1:08:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:01Speaker 03

  But that's also why, what we were talking about, about partying, we shouldn't feel bad about it. This is the time.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  This is the time.

• 1:08:07Speaker 03

  To be selfish and just have a bit of like, the crack.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:08:12Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 1:08:13Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 1:08:13Speaker 03

  Cause soon you'll have to not be selfish and you'll have to think, you'll have to put somebody else before you and who wants that?

• 1:08:18Speaker 01

  Is it wedding season for you? Like, have you?

• 1:08:20Speaker 03

  Yes. I just had a wedding on the weekend.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  What do you think about rehearsal dinners?

• 1:08:23Speaker 03

  I've not been to a rehearsal dinner. I don't think that's so much of a thing at home.

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  Do, but you guys have like a hen, right? That's what you call it, the hen.

• 1:08:31Speaker 03

  Well, we have hens and stags and sometimes you do stens, which is like a hen do and a stag do at the same time.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  I've heard about this.

• 1:08:37Speaker 03

  I think so much fun.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  That's, yeah, I didn't know that. That's not a thing here. They do it completely separately.

• 1:08:42Speaker 03

  Because then it's like, if you, cause also like, I love my boyfriend's friends and he loves mine. So it does seem like, I don't know how I'd divide it.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:08:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  It would be more fun to just do it together.

• 1:08:51Speaker 03

  What's the craziest stag hen, that, sten that you've ever been on?

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  I've never been on one.

• 1:08:56Speaker 03

  Okay, so wedding season's beginning.

• 1:08:57Speaker 01

  Wedding season is beginning and it is, so the reason I'm like, I can't deal with these rehearsal dinners is because you take it too far. Like, I got home from the box at six AM and then I had to go to a wedding the next day. Like, and I'm like. I wish I just didn't do that.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  So you had to go to a rehearsal dinner and then the wedding?

• 1:09:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, see, it makes no sense.

• 1:09:17Speaker 03

  But then, like, but what, yeah, because like, then you just have done the bit.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think if I ever, it really, like, I don't understand rehearsal dinners. Like, I, you're not rehearsing shit.

• 1:09:29Speaker 03

  What's to rehearse? You just have to walk down, there's literally a row that you walk down, if that's what you've chosen to do.

• 1:09:34Speaker 01

  And, yeah.

• 1:09:35Speaker 03

  And then say your bit.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  But that's the rehearsal. And then there's a rehearsal dinner. It make, it's more of like a welcome party.

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  She goes to a wedding like every other weekend.

• 1:09:43Speaker 03

  That's crazy.

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 1:09:44Speaker 03

  I understand like a welcome drinks the night before, if you're like somewhere, you know, nice, but like, rehearsing the wedding seems crazy. Then you've sort of like, you've seen it all. It's not, it's like, for me, it's the anticipation of like, what's gonna happen? Where are they gonna walk?

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  Right. Weddings are, and weddings can be some of the most fun I'll ever have in my entire life.

• 1:10:02Speaker 03

  Oh, they are so fun.

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:04Speaker 03

  They are so fun. Also, like, it's just like, it, again, it's that thing where suddenly you're like, oh, I'm an, I'm an adult, like, I saw my best friend get married over Christmas and I, I just couldn't believe it. Cause for me, she was like still 18 and I was like, but we're babies and now you're fully getting married. It was such a magic thing.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  My brother just got married and he's literally like younger than me. And I just remember being like, I cannot believe this is happening right now.

• 1:10:27Speaker 03

  It's crazy.

• 1:10:28Speaker 01

  It's crazy. Ah, where do you want to get married one day?

• 1:10:32Speaker 03

  Well, I, I don't know, like, it's funny when you go to weddings, you start to think about.

• 1:10:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:38Speaker 03

  Would I, like, what would I do if I got married? I think I like the idea of like a London wedding.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  Okay, I, I just went to one and it was really fun.

• 1:10:46Speaker 03

  I've never been to one. I've only ever been to like abroad, somewhere abroad, which is fabulous in its own way. But I like the idea of like one crazy night out in London.

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  I want to do a country, a London countryside wedding.

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  Oh, like, oh, like you could go to like Devon or Dorset.

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  I've never been. I don't even know these places.

• 1:11:03Speaker 03

  Have you been to the Cotswolds? Have you been to?

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  No, but I've heard it's like the most beautiful, incredible, like my friend Lila's like, you need to come. It is the best place on planet earth.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  Oh, well, Sense and Sensibility is all shot in the British countryside and it is some of the most beautiful landscapes like you will ever see. It's crazy.

• 1:11:19Speaker 01

  Did you shoot that in the summer?

• 1:11:21Speaker 03

  Yes, li- literally last summer.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Were you so hot in those clothes?

• 1:11:24Speaker 03

  Oh my god. Well, we were shooting in the like moors in Dartmoor, which are like this amazing like moorland with like wild horses and sheep. So, um, but it would be like five different seasons in like one.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:11:36Speaker 03

  It would be like winter, springs. It was like, so yes, hot, freezing, all of the, all of the temperatures.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  Was it hard to memorize lines when they speak in?

• 1:11:45Speaker 03

  Well, I hadn't done an English accent in a long time. I hadn't done my own accent, but it's not even my own accent because it's sort of like, dearest, you know, it's got a different sort of cadence to it. So, um, but I loved it. I, I want to use the term dearest more in my life. Like, I think the way they used to speak was so like gorgeous.

• 1:12:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's very romantic.

• 1:12:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, dearest, do you not believe that? You know, I just think it's so like whimsical. Yeah. Be like, you know, I do believe that I love him, you know?

• 1:12:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:13Speaker 03

  I, I highly esteem him, all of the, I just think it's like beautiful.

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  Oh, the ending of that movie was so awesome.

• 1:12:20Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  It was so awesome.

• 1:12:22Speaker 03

  It's so, yeah. I, I love that our movie is really about the sisters. Like it's, it's a love story between them. And I think that's, you know, I think it's so beautiful and that's what the book is as well. So, yeah.

• 1:12:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, I was about to say, I haven't seen the, the other one. So, or does this adaptation focus more on the sisters?

• 1:12:41Speaker 03

  It does in a way. Like, I think that, that that relationship in, in the 95 version is also really strong, but I think that that's definitely what our, like, our filmmaker really was interested in because they're two sides of the same coin. I think it would be easy to think that Eleanor was sense and Marianne was sensibility. And they, they are, but actually like both contain multi, like so much of each other's quality.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Oh, you just unlocked the movie for me. Sense and sensibility.

• 1:13:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense.

• 1:13:14Speaker 03

  Eleanor is sense.

• 1:13:15Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:13:15Speaker 03

  She's super, in, in the book, she's described as like being full of emotion, but she knows how to govern it. She's very like.

• 1:13:21Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:13:21Speaker 03

  You know, and then Marianne is like all emotion and just like love and life. And I want to, you know, meet the man of my.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  I want to go to London. Yeah.

• 1:13:28Speaker 03

  Yes, I like, I fancy Willoughby, I'm getting married, all of this. Whereas Eleanor is a bit more like, but have you thought through, have you thought about it all?

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:35Speaker 03

  So in, by the end of the movie, they kind of like, it's a movie about balance, really. They like gift each other, each other's, you know, I think Eleanor is the one who's running through the moors and, you know, gives into her emotion. And then, um, Marianne learns that, you know, she can feel things, but should also care for herself and look after and be a little more sensible at times.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:13:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  My ex-best friend's crazy boyfriend wouldn't let her use the bathroom when she was over. He is a bum that lived in his parents' basement. Put, I'm sorry, I don't think I can do it.

• 1:14:04Speaker 03

  Can I try?

• 1:14:06Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, you read.

• 1:14:07Speaker 03

  He is a bum that lived in his parents' basement, post grad by the way. He told her she couldn't, as there was no bathroom downstairs. And if she goes upstairs to the bathroom, their dogs will bark and it will wake everyone up in the house. He then tells her that there is a bucket downstairs that she can use. He dead ass expected her.

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  Have you ever used that word before in your entire life?

• 1:14:38Speaker 03

  No, I know, it's like trying to translate what bum meant as well. He dead ass expected her to take a piss in the musty bucket in the basement.

• 1:14:49Speaker 03

  And you know what? She did. Multiple times.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  Oh, that's just horrible.

• 1:14:54Speaker 03

  Her and I don't speak anymore. Okay.

• 1:14:57Speaker 01

  See, that's why I'm confused.

• 1:14:58Speaker 03

  But I know they're still together and I just pray for her sake that she can use the bathroom now.

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  I have no.

• 1:15:08Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 1:15:09Speaker 01

  I don't know how to help. I maybe reach out and be like, hey, girl.

• 1:15:12Speaker 03

  I don't know if she even needs help. I think she just wanted to say, I mean, she just wanted it to be known that like.

• 1:15:17Speaker 01

  Conscious, maybe?

• 1:15:18Speaker 03

  Maybe she's hoping that her ex-best friend might watch this episode and be like, she still cares.

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  Oh my god, she still cares.

• 1:15:23Speaker 03

  She still cares.

• 1:15:24Speaker 01

  She still cares.

• 1:15:25Speaker 03

  You know, and stop pissing in a bucket.

• 1:15:27Speaker 01

  Yes, please. That's giving like kidnapped vibes.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. And also crazy that he would be like, the dog is more important. Like, don't wait the dog, like pee in this bucket.

• 1:15:34Speaker 01

  No, that's insane.

• 1:15:35Speaker 03

  I mean, that is giving Glastonbury, but like, yeah.

• 1:15:38Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:15:39Speaker 03

  That's crazy. She should dead ass leave him.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  Hey Jake, it's Libby. I'm speaking to a guy who's perfect, but I'm starting to get the ick because he owns a motivational water bottle. Am I self sabotaging or is it hydrate or die? Or is hydrate or die genuinely a red flag? Like, help? Okay, so my acting coach has a water bottle that lights up when he, you're, yeah, I don't think it's a red flag at all. It is very important to drink water.

• 1:16:04Speaker 03

  I agree. I'm sorry, is it an ick that he's hydrated?

• 1:16:07Speaker 01

  No, a more of an ick would be if he's dehydrated and his pee would smell bad.

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  That's an ick.

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:11Speaker 03

  That's really icky.

• 1:16:12Speaker 01

  Watch H2O Just Had Water.

• 1:16:14Speaker 03

  Oh my god. Oh, what a show.

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  Best show ever.

• 1:16:17Speaker 03

  Actually, that would be my dream job to play a mermaid.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  I feel like that is achievable.

• 1:16:22Speaker 03

  I, oh, it just like, I loved it. Whenever they got flicked with water and they were like, oh no. And they had to like, so good.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  I mean, that was like my, we used to play that like as a kid, like we would like throw water and then like jump into the water. Cause like we would, oh.

• 1:16:34Speaker 03

  Well now, okay, you need to watch, you need to read, okay, A Court of Thorn and Roses, because instead of playing mermaids now, people play Nesta. And you don't know what that means, but.

• 1:16:44Speaker 01

  Is it like evil mermaids?

• 1:16:45Speaker 03

  She does a point. I won't say it.

• 1:16:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:16:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:49Speaker 01

  Well, Daisy.

• 1:16:51Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:16:51Speaker 01

  What did we learn today?

• 1:16:53Speaker 03

  What did we learn?

• 1:16:55Speaker 01

  We're kind of similar.

• 1:16:56Speaker 03

  We're Geminis.

• 1:16:57Speaker 01

  We're kind of similar.

• 1:16:57Speaker 03

  We've got a lot of Gemini qualities.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  I haven't had this much fun in this room in a really, really, really long time.

• 1:17:04Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:17:07Speaker 03

  Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Oh, that's so, I've had such a blast. And honestly, these sweeties are so good, like coming home with me.

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  Oh, well, we're sending you home with an entire package.

• 1:17:18Speaker 03

  And we're gonna go to Oasis. I can't wait.

• 1:17:19Speaker 01

  We have to go to Oasis together. I'm grabbing your number after this and we're going to Oasis.

• 1:17:22Speaker 03

  I cannot wait. I'm so there.

• 1:17:24Speaker 01

  Well, Daisy, thank you so much for being here.

• 1:17:26Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  You can see Sense and Sensibility out October 16th. It is fantastic.

• 1:17:32Speaker 03

  Bye pussies.

• 1:17:50Speaker 00

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