582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains

Deep beneath Earth's mountains lie secrets that could reshape our understanding of human history and technological capability. Mountains like Shasta, Hayes, and the pyramids of Giza possess qualities that defy conventional explanation - perfect alignments, unusual magnetic properties, and inexplicable energy signatures. Military agencies have spent decades investigating these peaks through classified programs, and witnesses report strange phenomena that science struggles to explain. Ancient texts speak of mountains harboring tremendous power and describe technologies that sound remarkably similar to modern energy generation and distribution concepts. Some of these mountains contain facilities that seamlessly integrate human and non-human operations, suggesting cooperation beyond what official sources acknowledge. The evidence points to a hidden truth: many of Earth's most prominent peaks might serve purposes far beyond their natural geological roles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30AJ Gentile?

  Hey, thanks for clicking on a compilation. I just learned that a lot of people watch these to help them fall asleep. So I'm gonna choose to take that as a compliment. But I am working on a sleepy time compilation specifically made for those of you who can't seem to stay awake.

• 0:50Speaker 02

  Ugh, I could barely stay awake for some of these.

• 0:53AJ Gentile?

  Yeah, well, that's not entirely my fault.

• 0:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's with the new setup? Uh, we doing the show from here now? Uh, 'cause my contract specifically said-

• 1:00AJ Gentile?

  Relax, we're not doing the show from in here. It's, I haven't done The After Files in a long time, and some people thought that I'm just not streaming anymore. But the truth is, we're doing construction in the studio, and my streaming station is dismantled.

• 1:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, likely story.

• 1:17AJ Gentile?

  So last compilation was all about stories that happened below ground. Today, we're gonna do stories that happen above ground, like way above ground. We're talking mountains, pyramids.

• 1:28Speaker 02

  Oh, oh, are we gonna talk about Mount Haste?

• 1:31AJ Gentile?

  We are.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  Mount mother (bleep) Haste.

• 1:34AJ Gentile?

  Watch your mouth. First up is episode 58, which is about Mount Shasta. And a lot of weird things happened on Mount Shasta. And, uh, but my favorite story is probably the one involving the robot grandma, who, uh... Well, I don't wanna spoil it.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  There is poop involved.

• 1:56AJ Gentile?

  There is. It's a short episode. I'll see you when you get back.

• 2:03AJ Gentile?

  If you follow this channel, you know that many of these videos come from your suggestions. And I get emails all the time from people who want content about UFOs. Others want lost cities, strange disappearances, or

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Lizzie people!

• 2:15AJ Gentile?

  reptilian humanoids. Today, we fulfill all these requests in one video. There is no other place on earth steeped in more mystery than Mount Shasta. Aliens, ghosts, underground bases, interdimensional portals. Mount Shasta has it all. Let's find out why.

• 2:37AJ Gentile?

  As you approach Mount Shasta, the first thing you notice is how absolutely out of place it is. Though it's one of the tallest peaks in North America, it's not directly connected to any other mountains. It stands alone and seems to leap off the landscape. At over 14,000 feet above sea level, Mount Shasta is so tall and steep that it pierces the clouds and creates its own weather. Located in Northern California, Mount Shasta is actually a semi-active volcano. Its last major eruption was in 1250, but as recently as last year, Mount Shasta was oozing lava that caused several fires in the surrounding forest. And just about every type of paranormal event you can think of converges at Mount Shasta. UFO sightings, mysterious disappearances, lost cities, ghosts, gods, everything.

• 3:22AJ Gentile?

  Mount Shasta legends exist in every culture that's lived in its shadow, including the first cultures. Native tribes have inhabited the area for over 10,000 years, making it one of the longest occupied areas in North America. And each tribe has a myth about the mountain. Some tribes say Mount Shasta is the sacred center of the universe. Others say the mountain is the birthplace of all life. And as different as these stories are, there is one theme found in every native legend: You do not go above the tree line. That area is reserved for the sky people. Not far from Mount Shasta is Petroglyph Point, which has some of the oldest stone writing ever found in North America, dating back thousands of years. And the glyphs depict the types of things you'd expect to see: animals, rivers, the sun, stars.

• 4:06AJ Gentile?

  But there are also carvings of what some people believe are sky people. Native tribes believe that the sky people were spiritual beings who existed in a different realm, a plane of existence where souls and spirits of the dead dwell. But what if the sky people aren't spirits of the dead, but are actually beings that are very much alive, just not human?

• 4:30AJ Gentile?

  There are Native American legends that describe a race of giants that live on Mount Shasta. The Modoc have the Mata Gogmi, which are said to be the keepers of the woods. Could these ancient people be describing Bigfoot? Mata Gogmi is the Modoc word for Bigfoot, and it's similar to the Tibetan word Metogangmi, which is their word for yeti.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  Hey, how do ancient Indians in Tibet end up with the same word for Bigfoot?

• 4:53AJ Gentile?

  Well...

• 4:53Speaker 02

  There would have to be some kind of land bridge between India and America. Wait a minute.

• 4:58AJ Gentile?

  You're getting way ahead of me on this one, pal.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  Are we gonna talk about?

• 5:01AJ Gentile?

  We are.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  Oh, baby!

• 5:03AJ Gentile?

  Since at least the 1920s, people have claimed to see tall creatures roaming the forests around Mount Shasta. In 1976, a camper thought a park ranger was investigating his camp, but upon closer inspection, it was a Bigfoot. Another famous account happened in 1962, when a hiker claimed to have seen a female Bigfoot giving birth.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Ooh, that sounds messy.

• 5:24AJ Gentile?

  It does.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  Lot of hot water and towels.

• 5:26AJ Gentile?

  Right. I get it.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  Because if a Bigfoot is giving birth, ooh, boy, that's gonna be a lot of...

• 5:30AJ Gentile?

  I said I get it.

• 5:33AJ Gentile?

  In 1930, a humanoid skeleton that was over eight feet tall was discovered near Mount Shasta. And this wasn't a fringe report. It was covered by major newspapers all over the area. And native legends say the race of giants prospered on the earth for thousands of years, but were suddenly wiped out in a great flood.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  It always ends with a great flood, doesn't it?

• 5:52AJ Gentile?

  Every time. But, there is an interpretation of this legend that claims the giants of the woods are not Bigfoot. They're a race of people called Lemurians. And that brings us to the fascinating story of J.C. Brown. He's considered the first person to find the lost civilization of Lemuria. But his story takes a mysterious turn.

• 6:18AJ Gentile?

  In 1904, J.C. Brown was working as a geologist for a gold mining operation, and he was sent to Mount Shasta to look for gold. During one of Brown's expeditions, he came across a rock fall that looked like something could be buried underneath. And when he cleared the rubble, he discovered the entrance to a cave that disappeared into the darkness for what looked like forever. Brown hiked the length of the tunnel which turned out to be a tunnel. had to be 11 miles long. And that may sound crazy, but Mount Shasta is a volcano. And the entire area around the mountain is a network of lava tubes. Lava tubes can be huge and stretch miles underground. And when J.C. Brown reached the end of the tunnel, he found what he described as the remains of an ancient city. He found machinery long abandoned that looked like it was used in a mining operation.

• 7:00AJ Gentile?

  He found statues, tablets, shields and weapons, all made of gold and all inscribed with hieroglyphics. He found what he called a worship room with statues that seemed to glow in the dark. And the final chamber of the cave system was a tomb where 27 giant skeletons were arranged, and they ranged in height from seven feet to over 10 feet tall. Unsure of what to do, J.C. Brown covered the entrance to the cave and told no one about it. But over the next few years, Brown became obsessed with a book by James Churchward called The Lost Continent of Mew and by stories of Lemuria, which he thought could be the same thing. Lemuria, according to the legend, was an entire continent that sunk beneath the ocean many thousands of years ago.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  He sounds like Atlantis.

• 7:43AJ Gentile?

  It's funny you should say that. Turns out Lemuria and Atlantis are connected.

• 7:54AJ Gentile?

  In 1899, Frederick Spencer Oliver published a book called A Dweller on Two Planets, which tells an amazing story that was found written on ancient Hindu tablets. Over a million years ago, the Earth was ruled by two very advanced civilizations, the Atlanteans and the Lemurians. And both cultures had technology that far exceeds our own. Atlantis was the dominant culture, and for many years it was benevolent. But about 25,000 years ago, Atlantis became corrupt and wanted to rule all people on the Earth. Lemurians rejected this idea and wanted to be left alone. And after much internal conflict, Atlantis decided to go to war with the Lemurians. And for years, the two mighty civilizations deployed devastating nuclear weapons against each other.

• 8:36AJ Gentile?

  The explosions were so violent that they caused the Earth's tectonic plates to become unstable and the magnetic poles to shift. Finally, a massive flood tore across the planet and laid waste to both civilizations. In all, 60 million L'amourians died. Atlantis suffered severe losses as well. The few surviving Atlanteans evacuated to Agarta, an underground city that we'll be covering on this channel. The last remaining L'amourians fled to Mount Shasta and established a city called Telos. What's amazing is, there's a Hawaiian legend that says the islands of Hawaii were once part of a vast continent called Mew, also known as L'amouria. Once J.C. Brown learned of these stories, he was convinced that he had found the lost civilization of L'amouria under Mount Shasta.

• 9:20AJ Gentile?

  So he decided, now 30 years later, it was time to go back to the mountain. And when J.C. Brown returned to Mount Shasta, he put together a search party to help him rediscover L'amouria. Brown had assembled a group of 80 researchers, scientists, and explorers. And after 1,000 years of legend, L'amouria was about to be proven real. Newspapers widely covered the story, and the excitement around the adventure was palpable. Then, on the morning that the expedition was set to begin, J.C. Brown didn't show. People combed every tavern, every street, every inn, looking for him, but they would find no trace. J.C. Brown had vanished and was never heard from again.

• 10:00AJ Gentile?

  Explanations for J.C. Brown's disappearance covered everything. Some said he was simply a fraud, though he never took a penny from anyone. Others said a secret but powerful organization learned of Brown's plans and had him erased.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Illuminati?

• 10:14AJ Gentile?

  Yep. But a few others were convinced that J.C. Brown no longer needed a search party to find L'amouria, but he had been granted access and taken there by some mysterious machine. And to hear descriptions of this machine, it sounds like a vehicle or-

• 10:28Speaker 02

  UFO!

• 10:30AJ Gentile?

  Right. And there have been UFO sightings around Mount Shasta going back over 100 years. And in recent years, sightings are accelerating. Of the top 300 UFO hotspots in the world, Mount Shasta is ranked 13th. People have seen chrome objects hovering above dark mountain roads. Others report lights moving in formation, silently swarming the peak and then disappear. One of the most widely reported UFO sightings happened in 2008. Residents said they saw what looked like a giant glowing jellyfish hovering over the mountain. Eyewitnesses said it made no noise, but it seemed to have a fire raging inside of it. Now unfortunately, there are no photos from this sighting, but just last year, someone captured this footage.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  This happened. I'm sorry. What is that? It's a passenger on the plane. Looks out the window, grabs the phone, this was filmed in June. The traveler sees that, an object apparently changing shapes in seconds.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  What?

• 11:26AJ Gentile?

  And what makes Mount Shasta UFOs really strange is that they don't just hover around the mountain. People have seen them fly into the mountain. And they don't mean they flew into an opening in the mountain. Every single person said the UFOs flew into the side of the mountain and just vanished into the rock. And it's been said that Mount Shasta is hiding an energy vortex that allows passage into another dimension. Locals believe the UFOs hide in the clouds and enter the mountain through some kind of portal. But that begs the question, a portal to where? For decades eyewitnesses have seen strange beings in Mount Shasta's caves that seem to

• 12:10AJ Gentile?

  have the ability to walk through walls. They just vanish. And it's not just these strange beings that disappear on Mount Shasta. It's one of the most active hotspots in North America for mysterious disappearances. In 2011, a young couple was camping on Mount Shasta with their three-year-old son. Suddenly, the boy's parents looked up and their son was gone. They immediately called the authorities and a massive search went on for five hours. Then, a sheriff's deputy heard a quiet voice coming from a bush not far from the campsite. This was odd because dozens of trained search and rescue professionals had combed every inch of this area multiple times and found nothing. But the boy was found unharmed, so this was called a successful operation, and that was pretty much the end of it. It wasn't until a few weeks later when the story would take a mysterious turn.

• 12:55AJ Gentile?

  The boy was talking to his grandmother, who he called Grandma Cappy, about the incident. He said he liked this Grandma Cappy better than the other Grandma Cappy who found him in the woods.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  Whoa, what?

• 13:06AJ Gentile?

  Yeah. The boy's mother was upset by this. What other Grandma Cappy? The boy said the other Grandma Cappy had taken him to a cave in the woods, and there were other people there too who were just frozen in place. And this new grandma seemed nice enough, but then she wanted to examine the boy, and for some reason she asked him to defecate on a piece of paper.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  Did he?

• 13:27AJ Gentile?

  No, he said he couldn't go.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm a shy pooper too.

• 13:31AJ Gentile?

  But it gets even stranger. Grandma Cappy said that just a few weeks earlier, she was camping in the same area when she blacked out. Then she woke up face down in the dirt and noticed she had a strange puncture wound on the back of her neck. She said she was violently ill and thought it was some kind of spider bite. She was camping with a friend who also had a similar wound and was also terribly sick.

• 13:51Speaker 02

  DNA extraction.

• 13:53AJ Gentile?

  Well, that's one theory. And Grandma Cappy said she's never going to that mountain again. Then there's the story of Carl Landers. In 1999, Landers, along with two friends, set out to hike to the summit of Mount Shasta. And along the trail, Landers just vanished. He didn't wander off. He didn't cry for help. He was just gone. And it's not like he disappeared into the woods or fell down a hole. There was good visibility for over 100 yards. Landers vanished in a wide open field. And he was an experienced hiker who knew this terrain extremely well. Yet somehow, he disappeared off the mountain without a trace. And for a week, a huge manhunt searched every inch of the area. The National Guard even sent helicopters equipped with infrared sensors. Nothing was found.

• 14:36AJ Gentile?

  No equipment, no clothing, no body. All gone. To this day, there is no explanation for what happened.

• 14:47AJ Gentile?

  So what's going on at Mount Shasta? Can we use logic and science to explain these mysteries? Well, it's difficult to explain ancient native legends because we have no evidence to support or refute the stories. Since the legends have been passed down over several thousand years, not only is it possible, but it's likely that these stories evolved over time. I mean, who can resist adding a little drama to make a story seem more mystical? I'm guilty of doing it on this channel. Mount Shasta isn't a very active volcano now, but it's erupted many times in the past. And human settlements were present during those eruptions. When native tribes described Mount Shasta as the home of a god who throws flaming rocks at his enemies, we could certainly see that these ancients were trying to make sense of what they saw.

• 15:31AJ Gentile?

  And when American Indians spoke of giants, did they really mean Bigfoot? It's not clear. There isn't much reporting of Bigfoot until 1924. When a few gold prospectors came back from an expedition talking about how they were attacked by giant ape men who threw boulders at their camp. And the story caught fire and grabbed so much attention that park rangers launched a full investigation. What they found didn't impress them. They said the boulders were actually just large rocks and looked like they were placed there by the men, and there were supposedly Bigfoot tracks in the area. But when the rangers looked closely at the tracks, it was clear they were made by one of the miners using his knuckles and the palm of his hand. Still, there's no stopping a viral story and the legend of Bigfoot was born.

• 16:15AJ Gentile?

  But what about these portals that seem to swallow people whole? Is there any science to support the phenomenon that two points in space can be joined by nothing but energy? Turns out, there is.

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• 16:59AJ Gentile?

  In 2013, NASA discovered a phenomenon called an X-point. X-points are places where the magnetic field of the Earth is directly connected to the magnetic field of the Sun. This is an uninterrupted path of energetic particles leading from our planet all the way to our star 93 million miles away. Another study confirmed these portals and found some of them are short-lived, opening and closing very quickly, but others are stable for long periods of time. Now, obviously, we can't use these portals to travel.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  Yet.

• 17:28AJ Gentile?

  Yet. But there is science to support that the Earth is magnetically tethered to the Sun. And the magnetism around Mount Shasta is highly unusual. The entire area is blanketed by an enormous negative magnetic anomaly. Could this area of strong magnetism be creating ruptures in space that cause people to disappear? Well, that's a stretch, but if some kind of electromagnetic event were to occur, there are few places on Earth better suited than Mount Shasta. Now, the story of the missing boy who suddenly reappeared five hours later, that's true. The part about his grandma Cappy and the puncture in her neck? That came from someone claiming to be her posting her story on the internet, so...I don't know. And the boy's parents conveniently want to remain anonymous.

• 18:13AJ Gentile?

  But Carl Landers really did disappear without a trace, as have many people on Mount Shasta. Now, most of the time, missing hikers are discovered not far from their last known position, usually dead from injuries from a fall. But it's worth acknowledging that there are plenty, I mean lots, of people who just vanish with no explanation.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Well, what about the UFOs?

• 18:32AJ Gentile?

  Well, the UFO sightings can't really be explained.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Aha!

• 18:36AJ Gentile?

  Weather around Mount Shasta is highly unusual and creates what's known as lenticular cloud formations. And lenticular clouds look like giant UFOs, but they're just clouds. As for what looks like flying spacecraft hovering around and disappearing into the mountains, we'd be silly to discount those reports. Even our own government is finally admitting there are objects zipping around the planet that just can't be explained. So what about J.C. Brown and La Moria? Well, the J.C. Brown story is a great one, but it might be debunked. In 2017, a researcher named Stephen Sendoni tracked down a man named John Benjamin Bodie, a mining engineer who retired in Mount Shasta. And Bodie had worked for the Lord Cowdrey Mining Company, which was also J.C. Brown's employer. And Bodie lived right across the street from where J.C.

• 19:21AJ Gentile?

  Brown had given daily lectures on La Moria and the lost city of Telos. This may not be definitive proof that J.C. Brown was a hoax, but it's pretty compelling research. And I should note that Sendoni is not a debunker. He's a hollow Earth researcher who's been on countless TV and radio shows discussing how the Earth is hollow and home to alien civilizations that live right under our feet. And speaking of hollow Earth, what about La Moria? Is it hiding inside Mount Shasta? I think La Moria is the best legend about Mount Shasta, and I'm not the only one. Entire religions have been built around the La Moria story. In the 1930s, Guy Ballard A mining engineer was exploring Mount Shasta. He said he was met by a young man named the Count of Saint Germain.

• 20:04AJ Gentile?

  And Count Saint Germain is a legend in paranormal history. He's supposedly immortal and shows up during all kinds of historical events. There's even an account of him being present at the signing of the Declaration of Independence, where he actually gave a speech. And we're gonna do a whole video on Saint Germain. He deserves more attention. But anyway, Ballard and his wife Edna claimed to be the sole messengers of Saint Germain, and other ascended masters, as they're called. And the Ballards began giving public lectures on Saint Germain's teachings, and eventually had grown the I Am Activity Movement to over a million followers.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  It's not easy to do without social media.

• 20:39AJ Gentile?

  Oh, it's not. And after Ballard passed away in 1971, most of the I Am members left a religion, but it's still around. You can visit the I Am Reading Room right now in Mount Shasta City. And Lemuria and Atlantis were nothing more than stories for hundreds, even thousands of years. But with the discoveries like Bimini Road in the Bahamas, and the Yanaguni Monument off the coast of Japan, we have to start wondering if these myths weren't myths at all, but actual places. Now skeptics will say Bimini and Yanaguni are natural formations, but I'll put the pictures up for you to decide. To me, Bimini Road is iffy. I lean toward man-made, but I can see the other side of the argument. But Yanaguni? That looks 100% man-made to me, so what if?

• 21:29AJ Gentile?

  Mount Shasta has captured the imagination of people around the world for centuries. And those who visit often say the mountain called to them. And I think it's fair to say that if you're the type of person who goes to a place expecting to have a spiritual or supernatural experience, there's a good chance you'll have one. The mind is a powerful thing. But as long as you're not starting religions based on this, I don't think there's anything wrong with believing what others say is a crazy theory. Our civilization's greatest leaps forward come from heretics who dare to challenge the status quo. From mavericks and dissenters have come scientific discoveries that altered the course of history, and forced even the most ardent skeptics to wonder... What if? What if there was an ancient civilization that sunk beneath the ocean?

• 22:12AJ Gentile?

  And what if the children of those people are here now, just waiting for our own civilization to catch up? Waiting for us to emerge from our selfish adolescence, so we can join a larger community? One that exists only for scientific discovery, artistic expression, and spiritual enlightenment? Now, I admit, it sounds like fantasy, but when we stop asking "what if", civilization dies. But as long as there are heretics, and mavericks, and dissenters, we have a chance. And if you're one of those, keep asking "what if"? Everyone on Earth, whether they know it or not, is counting on you.

• 22:51AJ Gentile?

  So, there are a few news stories since I released that episode about Mount Shasta. So if you want me to do a part two, just let me know in the comments.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  Yo, hello! We're not gonna address the elephant in the room.

• 23:02AJ Gentile?

  What elephant in the room?

• 23:03Speaker 02

  You.

• 23:07AJ Gentile?

  Yes, I recorded that episode during COVID when I gained a few pounds, but I wasn't gonna mention it.

• 23:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, how can you not? You look like that kid from Mask.

• 23:15AJ Gentile?

  I did not look that bad.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Sloth, love junk. Baby, Ruth, Ruth.

• 23:21AJ Gentile?

  Quiet. Okay, next. 142. Oh, this is about the CIA's Project 8200.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Mount Hayes!

• 23:30AJ Gentile?

  Yep. This one is about a CIA remote viewer who saw underground bases beneath Mount Hayes.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Mount motherfucking Hayes.

• 23:39AJ Gentile?

  Okay, enough with that.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Oh, hey, hey, hey! You know you can buy Mount motherfucking Hayes coffee mugs in a Y-File store?

• 23:46AJ Gentile?

  Please, no plugs during compilations.

• 23:53AJ Gentile?

  During the 1960s and 70s, the United States and the Soviet Union fought the Cold War on many fronts. Some of these engagements were obvious, like the Cuban Missile Crisis and the proxy wars in Asia. Other conflicts were not so obvious. In the 1970s, America and Russia engaged in a new type of warfare: psychic warfare. The CIA was actively recruiting and training people... with a natural talent for remote viewing. Remote viewing is projecting your consciousness to anywhere on Earth and beyond. One remote viewer entirely by accident, found himself at Mount Hayes in Alaska. Mount Hayes is in the middle of nowhere, there's no civilization for miles. But something was calling him to the mountain.

• 24:37AJ Gentile?

  Then he looked inside the mountain. There was a base hidden inside Mount Hayes. Then he saw, this was not a base built by humans. When multiple sources confirmed the existence of the base, they soon realized, this was only the beginning.

• 24:59AJ Gentile?

  The story of the psychic competition between the US and the Soviet Union is like the chicken and the egg. Some say the CIA heard the Soviets had psychic spies, so they launched their own programs in response. Others say the US was first and the Soviets were responding. Either way, both superpowers created well-funded, super-secret programs focused on ESP, or extrasensory perception. In other words, psychic espionage. A skilled remote viewer would be the perfect spy. They could go anywhere, see anything, completely undetected. Remote viewing means the end of state secrets. Really, the end of all secrets. But remote viewing didn't start out as a military intelligence project. It began as a research project.

• 25:43AJ Gentile?

  In 1972, two scientists, Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ, launched an ESP program at the Stanford Research Institute, or SRI. Then they started looking for volunteers and came across Ingo Swan.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  Oh, hey, what do you call a fat psychic?

• 26:00AJ Gentile?

  Please don't.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  A fortune teller.

• 26:06AJ Gentile?

  Ingo Swan claimed to be a great psychic. Puthoff was skeptical, so he set up a test. The team had access to a large magnetometer, which can detect slight variations in magnetic fields. Swan had no idea what the machine was. Even though it was buried under 30 feet of concrete, he could see into the device and describe it. He was able to- ...sketch the magnetometer readings, then he was able to affect the readings. This was good and bad. Good that Ingo proved his abilities, but the purpose of the magnetometer was to detect Soviet nuclear tests. Affecting the output set off alarms all over the lab. The experiment almost got them kicked out of Stanford. But the experiment caught the attention of the CIA.

• 26:49AJ Gentile?

  They didn't care that Ingo could move the needle, but the fact that he could see through superconducting shielding buried in 30 feet of concrete? Well, that was a problem, but also an opportunity. The CIA quietly funded SRI's research and had them focus specifically on remote viewing. And Ingo Swann became known as the father of this technique. Initial experiments were mostly successful. Ingo could identify images in sealed envelopes. He could project his consciousness to different places and see hidden objects. But this didn't help the CIA. They needed him to view specific locations, Soviet locations. So Ingo Swann and the SRI team created the Scan-8 Protocol. Project Scan-8 was remote viewing by coordinates.

• 27:34AJ Gentile?

  Here's how it works. You give a remote viewer longitude and latitude coordinates, and you tell them nothing else. Ingo Swann could see what was at a given set of coordinates with remarkable accuracy. By the way, Ingo Swann also remote viewed the moon. I did an entire episode on it. It's linked down below. Now, I don't want to spoil it, but what he saw on the moon was pretty amazing.

• 27:55Speaker 02

  And for the record, he's the only person who went to the moon.

• 27:59AJ Gentile?

  Not now. Soon, another psychic joined the project: Pat Price. Pat was a retired police commissioner. He was a good counterpart to Ingo Swann. Ingo was a painter. He was the typical free spirit artist. He was loud and confident and funny. Pat Price, on the other hand, was grounded and serious. Pat solved a few crimes using his psychic abilities. Now, at the time, Pat thought it was nothing more than intuition, hunches that usually turned out to be true. After he retired from the police department and had more time to focus, he realized his talent was more than intuition. Today, Pat Price is considered one of the most gifted psychics ever. The CIA wanted to test them. Both Pat and Ingo were given coordinates to view.

• 28:44AJ Gentile?

  Nobody knew what was at the site, except the one CIA analyst who gave them the numbers. Even though they remote viewed separately, both Ingo and Pat sketched similar results. They saw the layout of some kind of compound. They said it looked high-tech. They described a large radar dish, a guardhouse. They saw roll-up doors and jeeps. They said it looked like a military installation. Pat Price was even able to read documents on the site. Now, this is unheard of. Nobody else can do this. But Pat saw a cabinet labeled "Operation Pool", inside were green folders named "Q Ball", "14 Ball", "8 Ball", and "Rack Up". The team showed the results to the analyst and asked how close they were. The analyst said, "Sorry,

• 29:28AJ Gentile?

  but these sketches are nonsense. I gave you the coordinates to my cabin in West Virginia." The whole team at SRI was disappointed and confused. How could both men be so wrong, yet see similar things? So, they sent someone to the coordinates. He found the cabin. But a few hundred feet down the road from the cabin, he found something else.

• 29:54AJ Gentile?

  Ingo Swan and Pat Price were given the coordinates of a CIA analyst's vacation home in Sugar Grove, West Virginia. But when they remote viewed the location, that's not what they saw. They saw a military installation. The CIA analyst who gave the coordinates didn't realize that an NSA listening post was just over the ridge from his cabin. Pat and Ingo both assumed this was the target. This was the type of location they were usually asked to view. The Sugar Grove facility in West Virginia was one of the most secret NSA installations in the country. It captured information from Soviet satellites as they flew over. It served as a listening post for all kinds of transmissions. In fact, Sugar Grove is in the NRQZ, the National Radio Quiet Zone.

• 30:39AJ Gentile?

  The NRQZ covers about 13,000 square miles in Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland. No radio signals of any kind are permitted there. If you fire up a radio, you will get a visit, a fine, and possibly jail time. A part of the zone is so locked down that microwave ovens and Wi-Fi are not permitted.

• 30:59Speaker 02

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• 31:06AJ Gentile?

  Please don't plug them now.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  What, they didn't pay for a midroll?

• 31:09AJ Gentile?

  No.

• 31:09Speaker 02

  Okay, never mind.

• 31:11AJ Gentile?

  So Pat Price and Ingo Swan got it right. They described this facility in detail from Northern California, 3,000 miles away. And you'd think this would be cause for celebration. It wasn't. Every federal law enforcement agency in the country showed up at SRI. They wanted to know why some wacky CIA psychic contractors were spying on an NSA facility. And by the way, Project Q Ball, Project 8 Ball, and Rack Up? These were so highly classified that even the project names were top secret. The NSA was furious. Once all the agencies calmed down, SRI went back to work. This time, the CIA would focus on the enemy.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Who, the American people?

• 31:51AJ Gentile?

  The Soviets.

• 31:54AJ Gentile?

  Pat Price was given coordinates to view. He said he saw a science fiction fantasy crane. Nobody knew what he was talking about. Pat grabbed a ruler, pen, and paper and drew a gantry crane. This type of crane is used to move shipping containers and lift ships out of the water. They're big. Pat said this was the most giant crane he'd ever seen. He saw someone walk by, and the wheels on the crane were 10 feet high, and the wheels were on train tracks. The CIA had a sketch based on aerial photographs of the site. There was a giant gantry crane.

• 32:29AJ Gentile?

  Inside the facility, Pat saw enormous steel spheres 60 feet across. There were no photographs of this. Nobody thought much of it. Pat said that whatever they were building, the Soviets couldn't get it to work. But five years later, US intelligence would discover that the spheres were there. They were nuclear containment devices, and they never worked correctly. Pat Price was right again. At this point, CIA plucked Pat out of SRI. They wanted him to work for them directly.

• 32:59AJ Gentile?

  Pat was given more coordinates for a site in Russia. He tried to go there, but something was pulling his focus from his target. Something in Alaska. It was a mountain. Mount Hayes. Now, this was unexpected. Mount Hayes is desolate and remote.

• 33:16AJ Gentile?

  There are no roads and no civilization for miles. It's in the middle of a frozen wasteland. Pat said he didn't see anything.

• 33:23Speaker 02

  Oh, he lies?

• 33:24AJ Gentile?

  Yes. But later, on his own, he projected back to the mountain. Then Pat projected into the mountain. Then he understood why he was drawn there. Inside Mount Hayes was a huge base. He saw advanced technology and equipment. He saw computers and consoles and machines that he didn't understand. Then he saw the operators of the machines.

• 33:50AJ Gentile?

  Pat saw beings that looked almost human, but were thin with large heads. And they were busy at work on something, though Pat prized didn't know what. Then Pat got scared.

• 34:04AJ Gentile?

  Inside the mountain, in the base, working alongside aliens were humans. Specifically, US military personnel. Two days later, Pat was in Las Vegas. As he walked through his hotel lobby, someone bumped into him. Then Pat felt a sharp pain in his leg. The next day, Pat had severe stomach cramps. And later that evening, he was found dead in his hotel room. His body was quickly removed. No autopsy was performed. No crime scene was designated. The official cause of death was a heart attack. He was 56 years old.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  Oh, how do they know the cause of death without an autopsy?

• 34:43AJ Gentile?

  Good question, and we'll never know. Pat's body was cremated. And then they called his wife.

• 34:49Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 34:50AJ Gentile?

  His remains are now in an unmarked grave in North Hollywood, we think.

• 34:56Speaker 05

  And I'm gonna see what this is. This is marker 700.

• 35:02Speaker 05

  So indeed, indeed, Pat's grave is entirely unmarked.

• 35:08Speaker 05

  I think he deserves better than that.

• 35:11AJ Gentile?

  Pat was with the CIA for less than four months. A few years later, the CIA's remote viewing program was called Project Grill Flame. Same mission, different name. Eventually, it would be called Project Stargate.

• 35:24AJ Gentile?

  In 1980, the operations and training officer for the project was Skip Atwater. Skip was a retired Army Intelligence Officer, now recruiting and training remote viewers. One day, Hal Putoff shows up at Skip's door with four files from Pat Price's remote viewing sessions, each with a different location. Pat gave the documents to Hal before going to work for the CIA full-time. Hal told Skip, "You might want to look at these." Skip looked at the files and couldn't believe it. One location was a secret alien base under Mount Hayes, Alaska. And the three other locations? Three other mountains. And three more alien bases.

• 36:06AJ Gentile?

  You've heard of the Bermuda Triangle. If you've followed this channel for a while, you know about the Nevada Triangle. These are places where planes, ships, and people vanish without a trace. There are mysterious triangles all over the world. There's the Dragon Triangle in Japan. The Formosa Triangle in Taiwan, and quite a few others. There's also the Alaska Triangle. The points are Juneau in the east, Anchorage in the west, then up to Barrow in the north. Since 1988, 16,000 people have gone missing in the Alaska Triangle. Nationwide, each state has an average of about seven people per 100,000 reported missing every year. Massachusetts has the lowest number, about two people per 100,000.

• 36:49AJ Gentile?

  Hawaii has the second-most, 16 people. Not only does Alaska report the most missing people per year, but their number is more than 10 times higher than Hawaii. Over 173 people missing per 100,000. And most of those go missing in the Alaska Triangle.

• 37:09AJ Gentile?

  The area is harsh and desolate. I'm sure many of the missing people simply succumbed to the elements. But not all the people. There are native legends that go back thousands of years that describe creatures appearing and disappearing in thin air, sometimes taking victims with them. There's also something very strange about the geology in Alaska. It's covered with negative magnetic anomalies. This is where magnetism operates in reverse. This would be a nightmare for airplanes, GPS, or any guidance system. And the epicenter of the Alaska Triangle? The place where magnetism goes crazy?

• 37:46Speaker 02

  Mount Hayes.

• 37:47AJ Gentile?

  Mount Hayes.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Mount mother (bleep) Hayes.

• 37:50AJ Gentile?

  Okay.

• 37:53AJ Gentile?

  Mount Hayes is also a UFO hotspot.

• 37:56Speaker 06

  Spotted and tracked for about 24 hours, moving northeasterly at 40,000 feet. At that altitude, officials say they did fear this unknown object posed a risk to civilian flights.

• 38:10AJ Gentile?

  There have been sightings of craft that go back years, and sightings as recently as a few weeks ago. People have seen objects hovering over the mountain and then flying in formation at impossible speeds. There are reports of objects vanishing into the side of the mountain. Not through a door, through solid rock. There's a theory that the magnetic disturbances around Mount Hayes are portals that allow spacecraft to go in and out of the mountain. Mount Hayes was one of four mountains that Pat Price said contained a secret alien base. The others are Mount Perdido in Spain, Mount Inian Gani in Zimbabwe, and Mount Zeal in Australia. Pat gave this information to Hal Putoff. Putoff then passed it along to Skip Atwater. Now this time, Skip worked with another extremely talented remote viewer,

• 38:55AJ Gentile?

  Joseph McMonigal. I've talked about him in a few different episodes. He's a legend in the remote viewing community. He's conducted thousands of remote viewing sessions for the Army, CIA. He's also helped companies find oil and precious metals. He's helped law enforcement find missing people. If anyone could confirm Pat Price's findings, it was Joseph McMonigal. So Skip gave Joe four sets of coordinates, and that's all. No other information, just the numbers. Not only did Joe see the alien bases, he saw so much more.

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• 40:03AJ Gentile?

  It was July 28, 1982. Project 8200 begins. Skip Atwater dimmed the lights in the interview room and took a seat. Joe McMonigal sat on the other side of the table, pen and paper ready. Joe had no idea what he'd be viewing. That's the ideal protocol. If a remote viewer is given information about a location in advance, it could ruin the entire process. Even small details can distract a remote viewer. Details create expectations, which can lead to false positives. For example, you can't say, "Remote view this bowling alley." The remote viewer will start seeing balls rolling and pins falling.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Beer drinking?

• 40:40AJ Gentile?

  Right.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  I'm throwing rocks tonight!

• 40:42AJ Gentile?

  I got it. Are they really seeing these things? Or is this just what they'd expect to see at any bowling alley? The only way to be sure a remote viewer sees the correct location is by giving them nothing. Skip had a map in a sealed envelope. He then read a series of numbers, coordinates. 63 degrees, 39 minutes north. 146 degrees, 45 minutes west. Joe didn't know what this was, but Skip knew it was...

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Out my [bleep] head! What?

• 41:13AJ Gentile?

  So Joe relaxed, closed his eyes, and projected his consciousness to those coordinates. As images came into his mind, he sketched them on paper.

• 41:23Speaker 07

  I have a bunch of water, land, ice, and all these general things written in here. This is generally a very desolate area. And I drew in the mountain range. I wrote mountains. This is a whole range. Of mountains that extends for thousands of miles. So that'll give you an idea of the scale at which I'm drawing here. And I sort of put an X where I perceive the target to be. Going to the target. And I believe that the target's placed deep in this mountain range in this desolate area.

• 42:01AJ Gentile?

  Water, land, ice, mountains, a desolate area? Joe was describing Mount Hayes. He drew a pretty accurate map of the area. It was time for Joe to go inside the mountain.

• 42:13Speaker 07

  Here's the target, which is perceptible. Deep tubes. Uh, pipes. Masses of electronics. Grid work of some kind. This is the target, which is perceptible. Some emitter of some kind. Kind of sense of great power. Uses a great deal of power, energy. Very low, uh, frequency feeling.

• 42:54Speaker 07

  This is the target, which is describable. Huge, uh, ground grid. Forming a, uh, electronic arena. Being very large power. Input lines from a materialized nuclear power plant. A power unit. Other tubes buried in the ground there. They're coils. Tubes are coils.

• 43:36AJ Gentile?

  Joe said the things he was seeing were so foreign to him that he had trouble putting them into words. He said, "Imagine an aborigine trying to describe the interior of a car. They don't really have any context. They don't have words for screws and bolts and glass and metal." That's how Joe felt. The technology was far beyond what he could comprehend. But Joe saw that the base was under a large dome. On top of the dome was an emitter sending a huge amount of energy into space.

• 44:09AJ Gentile?

  Next, Joe was told the coordinates of Mount Zeal in Australia.

• 44:13Speaker 07

  The yawning entrance to an underground cave.

• 44:21Speaker 07

  Black doorway. Like a smooth dome of concrete. A black hole. Distorted sight of some kind. I see just a collage of things buried.

• 44:42Speaker 07

  Coils.

• 44:45Speaker 07

  I'm seeing boxes of electronics.

• 44:48AJ Gentile?

  Under Mount Zeal, Joe sees another facility with advanced technology. Then he sees something familiar.

• 44:56Speaker 07

  Keep envisioning, uh, control centers. You've been getting visions of all the command and control centers I've ever been in.

• 45:09AJ Gentile?

  Joe describes an underground command center. Later, other remote viewers would describe consoles and screens, and what sounds a lot like NORAD.

• 45:18Speaker 07

  Reference to caretaker personnel. Do you have visuals of them, or? No, I just perceive like a watchdog force or something there. What kind of emotional impact was this on you? Oh, it's a very... I have a very sinister feeling for this target.

• 45:37AJ Gentile?

  Next, Joe goes to Mount Perdito in the Pyrenees Mountains between France and Spain. The first thing he says is, "I see sheep."

• 45:47Speaker 07

  Gray rocks. There's sheep. Not a natural cave. Cliffs and rocks.

• 45:56AJ Gentile?

  Mount Perdito does have cliffs, gray rocks, and yes, there are sheep everywhere. Joe sketches the layout of the facility.

• 46:05Speaker 07

  This connection is observable. Interconnecting points like a spider web.

• 46:13Speaker 07

  Impression of relay. Impression that it catches something and relays it back. Terium, high-frequency relay. Transponder.

• 46:25AJ Gentile?

  This is where we start to learn that the facilities are connected like a spider web.

• 46:30Speaker 07

  They'll get this impression of a string of beads in the sky circling the earth.

• 46:38AJ Gentile?

  Toward the end of the session, Joe could see the facility being built. He said the construction took place about two to two and a half years ago.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  Oh, he saw aliens at the base?

• 46:47AJ Gentile?

  Nope.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 46:48AJ Gentile?

  It was being built by people.

• 46:56AJ Gentile?

  When Joe McMonigal was remote viewing the site at Mount Pardito, Spain, he was extremely accurate. He saw the cliffs, gray rocks, and sheep. That's the only time he mentioned sheep in thousands of remote viewing sessions, but he was right about them too. When Skip Atwater conducted the interview, Joe saw something unexpected: the facility being built. Skip was expecting this to be construction that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago, with advanced technology maybe using UFOs. But that's not what Joe saw.

• 47:27Speaker 07

  Occupants are describable. Helicopters. Very rugged mountain range. Kind of desolate. Vehicles of transport are perceptible. Helicopters. Outlarches with small boxes being brought in by helicopters.

• 47:51AJ Gentile?

  Boxes being brought in by helicopters, so human involvement, military involvement. This tracks with what Pat Price saw at the Mount Hayes facility. He saw human military personnel working alongside alien beings. And just like Mount Hayes, Joe saw an emitter sending energy into space.

• 48:11Speaker 07

  Impression which I have labeled receive. I feel like this is situated in a footprint. In other words, it's being targeted with some kind of emitter, and that's a receiver. I have a cable going down into a cleft in the rocks on this particular location. And in the cleft in the rocks is like a control black box and a power pack. Located in the center is a small dish or disk type shape with a spike in it. And that's a very high-frequency emitter, and it emits straight up. And that's, there's a necessity that this be located on an extremely tall mountain top

• 48:53Speaker 07

  or desert, high range of mountains.

• 48:58AJ Gentile?

  During this session, Joe also gets the sense that this location is also involved in transmitting and receiving energy and information. The last mountain viewed is Mount Indigani in Zimbabwe.

• 49:14AJ Gentile?

  Joe sees a singular mountain, a group of high hills. There's a jungle close by. He sees black boxes of electronics. Again, he feels the concept of command, control, and communications. But everything comes together now. These command centers are linked. Joe says it's like a spider web.

• 49:34Speaker 07

  It's not turned on, or it's turned on, but it's lying dormant. They're all lying dormant, but they're all turned on that are installed. They're still going in. I get that impression. This is just a gut feeling now, but this is a perception, a concept perception. If you equate this to a cobweb, every single angle in a cobweb represents a location on the cobweb. And I get an impression that the spider has not turned this whole cobweb on yet. But when he does, then it'll just be rattle the web anywhere.

• 50:10AJ Gentile?

  After the session, Joe tried to explain what he meant by spider web or cobweb. Now, remember, Joe never mentions aliens, but he wasn't looking for aliens. He wasn't looking for anything. He was just given coordinates. But he sees technology he can't comprehend when he views these locations.

• 50:27Speaker 07

  This is really, this is, this is all off the wall to me. My raw impressions are each one of these target sites is like a different spoke in a wheel. And that's a bad example, but it's, it's like, it's like a different, different part of a jigsaw puzzle. And each one is dormant. It does nothing unless it's commanded to do something. And then all it does is, is transfer. It just transfers something.

• 50:57Speaker 07

  I get just an overwhelming feeling of the big three C. You know, command, control, and communications.

• 51:06AJ Gentile?

  What are these locations transferring and to where? Joe sees it.

• 51:11Speaker 07

  Sensing and receiving and emitting relay. Location is an integral part of the location. You get a fixed orbital platform. It's not going anywhere. No occupants now, but there's a capability. Can't tell if it's occupiable there or occupied before delivery. It's fully automated. No occupants, fully automated.

• 51:46AJ Gentile?

  Like every remote viewing session, after Joe brings his consciousness back, he tries to explain what he saw and what he wrote down. Skip asks him to describe the space platform.

• 51:58Speaker 07

  In trying to go to the origin of the spaceborne platform, I got a very old and a very new sensation. Like I got both sensations. It's like periods of time I'm talking about. I'm trying to equate the years and they're not. There's like, I'm going from ancient to new to ultra-modern, back to new. You know, I'm flopping around in time. So that's probably pretty important.

• 52:27AJ Gentile?

  What Joe means is that the technology is extremely advanced, but this space platform has been there for a long time. Ancient, he says. Okay, so where's the platform?

• 52:40Speaker 07

  This spaceborne platform is in a permanent fixed place. It's not rotating around the Earth and it's not.

• 52:52Speaker 07

  It's like it's fastened on the string to the earth, never moves. And it's way out there, you know, so it has no decaying orbit, it sticks.

• 53:03AJ Gentile?

  And these bases aren't just within the mountains, they're also under the ocean.

• 53:09Speaker 07

  Also, there's more than just these four locations. I have an immediate vision of seabed locations. You know, I honestly believe there are seabed locations of these things.

• 53:24AJ Gentile?

  Skip Atwater confirms this and all of these sessions in a talk he gave in 2009.

• 53:29Speaker 06

  And that's where he explains again, very old, and that these have been here a long time. But what he is viewing is so new, he doesn't understand it. There are some of these on the seabed. They have to do with precise observation, location and relay, some navigation use.

• 53:50AJ Gentile?

  When Joe first viewed the Mount Hayes alien base, he got a sinister feeling. But as he viewed each location, that feeling became less and less.

• 54:00Speaker 07

  My initial target, or target number one, was I had a very sinister feeling. Target number two got less sinister. Target number three was not sinister at all. This target has convinced me that this has no, absolutely no evil content in the way that we were describing it.

• 54:23AJ Gentile?

  Skip Atwater had another psychic who claimed to be in telepathic communication with these beings in the bases. The psychic asked them, "What do you think of humans?" The response was basically, "Not much."

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Uh-oh.

• 54:35AJ Gentile?

  Yeah, that sounded ominous to the psychic too, so he asked the being to explain. The response was, "We see humans like you see a flock of birds. There are a few of us interested in them scientifically, but most of the aliens on Earth, while aware of humans, don't see us as anything more than the other animals here. Yes, we're slightly more intelligent, but otherwise, we're just animals in a zoo to them."

• 54:56Speaker 02

  Animals with nuclear weapons.

• 54:58AJ Gentile?

  Right, there's that. The only time ETs will involve themselves in our affairs is if we try to do something to harm the planet.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  How dare you!

• 55:07AJ Gentile?

  Notice I didn't say "harm ourselves." The aliens don't care whether we're here or not, but they won't let us hurt their planet.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  Why not?

• 55:15AJ Gentile?

  Well, because the Earth provides them with resources. The four alien bases in the mountains, plus the bases in the ocean, are creating energy from something in the Earth. This energy is harnessed, concentrated, and sent to an orbital platform in deep space. What happens from there, nobody knows. Joe McMonigal's remote viewing sessions were focused primarily on technology, energy, and the space platform. Joe did see helicopters outside the base at Mount Perdito, but he didn't see the beings operating the bases. But Pat Price did see them. Pat Price said the bases contain beings that look like humans, except for the heart, lungs, blood, and eyes. And if Pat Price says creatures are there, they're there. So Skip Atwater brought in a few other remote viewers,

• 55:59AJ Gentile?

  not only to confirm the existence of the bases, but also to see who was operating them. Were they aliens, or were they humans? According to several other remote viewers, the answer is yes.

• 56:17AJ Gentile?

  When Hal Putoff gave Pat Price's four files to Skip Atwater at Project Stargate, he told him, "You might want to look at these." Pat had seen bases inside mountains, full of advanced technology. Pat saw aliens operating equipment. And in some cases, he saw human military personnel working alongside the aliens. Remote viewer Joe McMonigal confirmed the existence of the bases and the technology. Joe even determined that the bases are linked and transmit energy to an object in space, but he didn't see the occupants. Years later, Ingo Swan trained a few more remote viewers using CRV, Coordinated Remote Viewing. Skip Atwater decides it's time to go back to the mountains. Remote viewer Bill Ray has given his first set of coordinates.

• 57:02AJ Gentile?

  He describes a hollow mountain in a cold climate.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Mount Mother... Mount Hays.

• 57:08AJ Gentile?

  Yes, Mount Hays.

• 57:12AJ Gentile?

  Bill sees electronic monitoring equipment and metallic ships, which are very quick. Bill describes people who were thin, unemotional, cold, and acted like they were programmed. He felt like they had a purpose and a mission. To Bill, they felt unearthly. Remote viewer Paul Smith saw a cluster of structures in a cold, windswept, desolate area. Inside, he saw people manning the site. They seemed regimented and subdued. He also saw box-shaped electronics and cables running underground. Session after session, Skip Atwater's remote viewers saw the same things. Some were more detailed than others, but all saw a mountain in a cold climate. All saw a base inside filled with electronics.

• 57:55AJ Gentile?

  And several remote viewers saw thin, unemotional beings going about some kind of business. But Skip was concerned that his own thoughts might be bleeding into the sessions. So he conducted what he called "a fully-blind session." This is where, not only does the remote viewer have nothing but the coordinates, but the same goes for the interviewer. Ed Dames was the monitor who read the coordinates to remote viewer Mel Riley. Mel sees a structure within a mountain. He sees a dark figure seated at a control panel operating a keyboard. Not a keyboard like we use, but something with large buttons or keys like a piano. He sees other figures walking around. As Joe McMonigal described, Mel says it looked like an underground control center, like NORAD at Cheyenne Mountain.

• 58:40AJ Gentile?

  And like Joe, Mel also saw a large dome covering the structures. Then Mel saw what he described as "some sort of UFO." Other remote viewers saw UFOs also, but Skip Atwater later admitted that they were afraid to put anything about UFOs in an official report. Now if we go all the way back to Pat Price in the 1970s, he drew what looks like a UFO under one of the mountains. In Skip's lecture, he sums up all the findings and key takeaways.

• 59:07Speaker 06

  The Price data itself describes four locations which he claimed and which was presupposed to be UFO bases. You know, how did Pat do this? You know, I don't know how he initially targeted himself. The sites were highly protected from discovery, they were mutually supportive in purpose, and they're very high technology of some kind. And the purposes of these bases included a monitoring function.

• 59:37AJ Gentile?

  Project 8200 confirms the existence of four subterranean sites, and several remote viewers saw or felt the presence of extraterrestrials. Project 8200 also confirmed the sites are intentionally hidden and working together. The sites are sometimes occupied, but not always. They're used for observation and relaying information and energy to an object in deep space. Finally, Joe McMonigal added that other bases are located deep in the ocean. Remember, Joe was remote viewing in the 80s. Skip Atwater gave this lecture in 2009. That's long before the videos we've seen of UFOs flying around and going in and out of the ocean. So after getting confirmation of UFO bases,

• 1:00:22AJ Gentile?

  that's when Skip Atwater decided he'd had enough. His project had limited resources, and if other agencies found out they were spending so much time searching for UFOs, that could be the end of the project and the end of many people's reputations. But something was nagging Skip. He kept asking himself, "Is any of this true?" Well, he knew the CIA station chief in northern Australia, so decided to give him a call. He asked his friend in Australia, "Hey, is anything unusual happening down there?" The guy said, "Nah, this is a dead assignment." Well, except for all the UFOs flying around Mount Zeal.

• 1:01:01AJ Gentile?

  Project Stargate was discontinued in 1993. It was finally shut down because, according to the CIA, it didn't provide any useful information.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  Oh, come on, it ain't kidding.

• 1:01:11AJ Gentile?

  Yeah, that in itself is suspicious. The budgets for Stargate, SRI, and psychic research were tiny compared to other military and intelligence operations. The government spends more money on office supplies than it was giving to Stargate. Really, it was shut down because of negative PR. Remote viewing and the US government's interest in it was showing up in newspapers, in magazines, and TV shows. ESP was a very fringe idea. I'm sure some senior military official shut it down out of embarrassment. But while Stargate was operational, it kept busy.

• 1:01:46AJ Gentile?

  and Russell Targ both said that every government agency was using their psychics, but nobody would admit it.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  I bet it's still going on.

• 1:01:53AJ Gentile?

  I would think so. It's buried in a black budget somewhere. But how much of all of this is true? Well, a lot of it depends on your perspective and existing beliefs. If you believe in ESP, then this story makes complete sense. If you don't believe, this story sounds bonkers. So let's see if we can find the middle ground. Ingo Swann is the most well-known remote viewer. I've covered him before, and I'm a fan of his. He has some famous successes like he said that Jupiter had rings. When he said that, it was a ridiculous claim. Later, it was discovered Jupiter does have rings. But he also said Jupiter had a huge mountain range, but on a gas giant, that's not possible.

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  Ah, hey, did he ever look at Uranus? Yeah.

• 1:02:36AJ Gentile?

  It's true that Ingo Swann got plenty of things right, but there's no way to know what his true success rate is. Very little can be verified, but he sure tells a hell of a story. Same with Joe McMonigal. He's a legend. He claims to have a 95% success rate, or 65%, or 75%. It fluctuates. Joe's done remote viewing sessions for live TV and was successful, but his 15 minutes of footage was edited down to two minutes of the best stuff. Maybe it was edited for time, and he had 15 straight minutes of winners. I don't know. But it all started with Pat Price, but there's not a lot of information out there about him.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, and the CIA likes it that way.

• 1:03:15AJ Gentile?

  Yeah, Pat did die under mysterious circumstances, and the story certainly sounds like a CIA hit. But years later, a former KGB agent defected from the Soviet Union, and he claimed to be an assassin. And he said one of his targets was a psychic in Las Vegas who he poisoned.

• 1:03:30Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:03:32AJ Gentile?

  Right. If Pat Price was really able to see inside Soviet military installations, he would need to go. But I can't find the name of that defector to verify the story, so...

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  CIA propaganda.

• 1:03:45AJ Gentile?

  Could be. And speaking of CIA propaganda, we have to examine the people involved in Project Stargate very closely.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, we gonna need names?

• 1:03:55AJ Gentile?

  Yes, we are.

• 1:03:56Speaker 02

  Uh-oh.

• 1:04:02AJ Gentile?

  Since the 1970s, a number of people with very high security clearances have been working on UFO phenomena. They were interacting with each other so much, they gave themselves code names. The code names were all birds, so they called themselves the avary.

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  Cute.

• 1:04:17AJ Gentile?

  Well, let's start with the owl. Psychic research begins with Harold "Hale" Putoff in the early 1970s at SRI, the Stanford Research Institute. We know that Putoff worked with the CIA on Project Stargate. But the owl has worked on and off for the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency for years. But most of his work happened after he left the Church of S. I. G. You bleeped me?

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  Well, you know we can't say the S-word. They sue people.

• 1:04:44AJ Gentile?

  Fair enough.

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  Well, how high did the owl get in the Church of Tom Cruise?

• 1:04:50AJ Gentile?

  Well, OT-7. That was the top level at the time.

• 1:04:54Speaker 02

  Yikes. I mean, oh, congratulations. What a nice achievement.

• 1:05:00AJ Gentile?

  Hey, I'm just giving information. I'm not making judgments.

• 1:05:03Speaker 02

  I am.

• 1:05:04AJ Gentile?

  Putoff is also involved in UFOs. He founded To The Stars, a private venture investigating UFOs. Also on the board of To The Stars is Christopher Mellon, who's also a former CIA and DIA, and Steve Justice, former director of Advanced Systems Development at Lockheed Martin, and Luis Elizondo, a former intelligence officer who says he ran ATIP. ATIP, or the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, essentially continued Project Blue Book. Elizondo says he ran this program. The Pentagon says he had nothing to do with it. Elizondo says this is a smear campaign. Pop quiz: Who do you believe? An intelligence officer or an intelligence agency?

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  Neither.

• 1:05:46AJ Gentile?

  Correct. Next, Blue Jay. Dr. Kit Green also worked on Stargate, and he was a CIA analyst. In 2001, leaked emails showed that Dr. Green said the infamous alien autopsy video was true.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  It was.

• 1:06:01AJ Gentile?

  Well, it was a film produced in 1995. A hoax. Later, Greene said that he never said it was real. He said the still shot of the face looked real. So, which is it? Next bird, Falcon. Falcon is the infamous Richard Doty. Doty was a special agent for the Air Force OSI, the Office of Special Investigations. He was in charge of UFO disinformation programs. One of Doty's assignments was to infiltrate the UFO community and flood it with as much disinformation as possible. This way, people would know what to believe. Bill Moore, a well-known UFO author, destroyed his career in a single afternoon. He publicly said he was taking payments from the government via Doty and helping spread lies.

• 1:06:46AJ Gentile?

  He was essentially booed off the stage, and we haven't heard much from him since. But, Doty has since come forward and said UFOs are real, and that most of the UFO stories we hear are real.

• 1:06:59Speaker 06

  And that's what is so disgusting and troubling within the UFO community. That's why I have nothing to do with them anymore. I've tried. I've went to UFO conventions and tried to explain what the truth is, and nobody wants to hear you because they've written a book that says it happened this way, and they're not going to listen to you, even though they really don't know the truth.

• 1:07:20AJ Gentile?

  Is he telling the truth now? Who knows? Our next bird is Woodpecker. Woodpecker is Jamie Shandera, a film producer. He's considered one of the birds who wants UFO disclosure. So, there are good guys and bad guys in the aviary. But, enter Bob Collins, aka Condor. Bob Collins is also a former intelligence agent with OSI who engaged in UFO disinformation campaigns. In 1989, a documentary was released called UFO Cover-Up Live. Shandera was featured in that documentary. But, this TV program got people asking questions. Many in the UFO community consider the doc to be nothing but a disinformation campaign. And, it's easy to see why. Bob Collins...

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Chadua.

• 1:08:06AJ Gentile?

  Right. He stated in his book that after the documentary, he attended what he called a mini-summit. This was a meeting to deal with the fallout of the TV show. At the summit was The Owl, Hal Pudoff, Falcon, Richard Doty, Blue Jay, Kit Greene, and Bill Moore, who is being paid by the government to lie to the public about UFOs. According to Colin's book, "Kit Green Took Center Stage By Proposing Several Lines of Attack Involving Disclosure Strategies." So are they on the side of disclosure or disinformation? There's more. You might remember my episode on Project Serpo. This was an exchange program between the United States and aliens from the planet Serpo.

• 1:08:49AJ Gentile?

  It's a great story, and by the way, all these are linked below. Now, it took a long time, but the Planet Serpo story was found to be a hoax, perpetrated by what came to be known as "The Team of Five." Two of the five were Victor Martinez and Bill Ryan, who ran the website disseminating the information. The information came from three men: Owl, Falcon, and Blue Jay. Putoff, Doty, and Green. Once again, Doty later said Serpo is true, and it may be. But in telling the story, The Team of Five got caught telling all kinds of other lies. But some of the lies, they say, are true. I get into all this in the episode. And by the way, Bob Lazar and a few other whistleblowers also say Serpo is true, so you make the call.

• 1:09:32AJ Gentile?

  But birds of a feather stick together. Neither talk about it much, but for years, Doty, aka "The Falcon," worked for Putoff, aka "The Owl." Doty spent 10 years as a private contractor for Putoff's company, Earth Tech. Earth Tech worked with the US intelligence community on black programs. Don't take my word for it. Here's how.

• 1:09:53Speaker 07

  The particular area that I took responsibility for is based on this. There was a critical issue. As you can well imagine, in these deep-black programs, it's difficult for contractors to obtain expert opinion on critical technologies because there's such high-level security and there's compartmentalization. We call it stove piping. And so I was contracted to commission papers from experts around the globe. And since we didn't want to be in the position of going out and saying, "Hey, we're trying to figure out this UFO thing. Can you help us out here?" I mean, the publicity associated with that in our black program would have been a disaster.

• 1:10:34AJ Gentile?

  Here's something else. In 2006, a book came out that blew the whistle on everything. It's called "The Black World of UFOs: Exempt from Disclosure." It talks about government cover-ups, sensitive DIA and CIA documents, reverse-engineering alien spacecraft. All the great UFO stories are in this book.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  I love it. What's the problem?

• 1:10:55AJ Gentile?

  It was written by Collins and Doty.

• 1:10:57Speaker 02

  Condor and Falcon.

• 1:10:59AJ Gentile?

  Yup.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  Ugh.

• 1:11:00AJ Gentile?

  Look, I believe UFOs exist, and I believe we have recovered craft. But I'm skeptical of anyone who's worked in intelligence, because once you're in, you're never out. Whatever's being said about UFOs by people like Doty, Pudoff, Elizondo, David Grush, I take all that with a grain of salt. These are not whistleblowers. These are people who spent most of their careers in intelligence. The things they say they're allowed to say, they have permission.

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  Permission for who?

• 1:11:29AJ Gentile?

  Well, isn't that the big question? Pat Price, the psychic who started it all, comes off as the most credible of all the people I talked about today. He was a retired cop from a small town. He used his gift to solve crimes, to help people. And Pat was a patriot. The CIA asked for help, and he provided it. Four months later, Pat was dead. In my research, I found something Pat Price said that bothered me. He said this: "People have infiltrated all government in sensitive positions, not to control government, the processes, or people, but rather to be in positions of power to stop politically any activity that may produce a result that could cause discovery." Americans want information about UFOs released.

• 1:12:13AJ Gentile?

  Congress tried and couldn't do it. Presidents have tried and couldn't do it. So if our elected leaders aren't in charge, who is? During Stargate, it was discovered that anyone can learn remote viewing. Some people, like Joe McMonigal and Pat Price, are naturally gifted. But the rest of us, with practice and training, it's a skill we can all develop. But that would mean the end of all secrets. That can't be allowed to happen. Secrets are the source of their power, whoever they are. And that's why Stargate was shut down. Not because it failed, because it worked.

• 1:12:54Speaker 07

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• 1:13:26AJ Gentile?

  Now, it's pretty much an open secret that something is going on underneath those mountains in Alaska, but there's no roads in or out. The only way to investigate is to fly in. And that's what the great investigator James Fox did.

• 1:13:41Speaker 07

  There's been controversy swirling around for decades as to some sort of secret, underground, potential alien base. So that's why I'm here to go and check out Mount Hayes and see if any of the accounts over the last several decades are remotely true.

• 1:13:56AJ Gentile?

  OK, we're going to stay in Alaska for this next one. I got to look up, ah, yes, specifically in the Alaska Triangle. I have a few episodes about that, where planes and people have gone missing for years, like thousands of them. Anyway, it wasn't until I began researching these episodes that I saw a recurring theme is that there is something buried underneath the mountains in Alaska. But what I didn't expect is that there were going to be facilities that were joint operations between the US military and alien races. But it seems like that's what they are. So this next episode is about one of those bases. This is the Black Pyramid of Alaska.

• 1:14:44AJ Gentile?

  In September 1989, Doug Mutchler reported for duty. He was a counterintelligence officer stationed at Fort Richardson, just outside Anchorage, Alaska. His job was investigating espionage and terrorism. So his first stop was the map room. He needed to get the lay of the land. Doug grew up in Ohio, so learning about the rugged terrain and wilderness of Alaska would take a lot of studying.

• 1:15:09AJ Gentile?

  Alaska is a big place. Almost 700,000 square miles, twice the size of Texas. Doug spread out a few maps across the giant table in the center of the room. He scanned the maps. They showed mountain ranges, rivers, lakes, cities, old mining towns, the typical stuff. But then, something caught his eye. On a map of Denali National Park, there was an area no bigger than his thumb that was whited out. Doug grabbed a magnifying glass. There were no features. About 60 miles west of Mount McKinley was a small zone labeled "This Area Not Surveyed to Date." Doug thought this was odd. The entire state of Alaska was definitely surveyed, every inch of it. How could this tiny patch be not surveyed?

• 1:15:54AJ Gentile?

  He set the question aside. He was a chief warrant officer in military intelligence. He figured if he needed to know, he'd know. Still, something about that location haunted him. And three years later, he'd find out why.

• 1:16:18AJ Gentile?

  It was late 1992, and Doug Mutchler was killing time with a few dozen off-duty soldiers. Someone shushed the group and turned up the TV.

• 1:16:30AJ Gentile?

  The local news was running a story about an underground nuclear detonation in China. It was so powerful that it sent shockwaves in the Earth's crust all the way to Alaska.

• 1:16:42AJ Gentile?

  But that wasn't the story. When seismologists analyzed the data, they saw the cross-section of a huge object about 100 feet below the surface in central Alaska.

• 1:16:54AJ Gentile?

  It was a pyramid. A huge pyramid, bigger than the Great Pyramid of Giza. 550 feet tall from the top to the base. The news showed the pyramid's location on a map. Doug wasn't sure, but he could swear it was right in the middle of the location marked "This Area Not Surveyed to Date." He ran to the map room. He was right. Next stop, his quarters. He set his VCR to record the 11 o'clock news. He needed to be sure. The late-night news came and went without a single mention of the pyramid. Doug called a few news junkies he knew. Nobody heard anything about it. The next day, with military intelligence credentials, Doug went to the local news station.

• 1:17:37AJ Gentile?

  The station manager said there was no such story and had no idea what Doug was talking about. They returned to his office. Doug stood in the lobby for a minute, confused. Not only did he see the news story, but almost forty other soldiers did too. The station manager's strange behavior made Doug feel that something wasn't right.

• 1:17:56Speaker 02

  Not many blacks stop by.

• 1:17:59AJ Gentile?

  Well, that's what Doug thought. But this visit was off the books. He had no authority here.

• 1:18:05AJ Gentile?

  As Doug was heading out, he heard a voice behind him. It was one of the younger employees. The kid nervously gestured for Doug to come over, so he did. The younger man was clearly rattled. He looked around, lowered his voice, and said the story was true.

• 1:18:21Speaker 05

  Look, I'm not supposed to say anything. I could get fired for this, but this just isn't sitting right with me.

• 1:18:28AJ Gentile?

  Doug acted like he wasn't sure what the kid was talking about, but he was pretty sure what he was talking about.

• 1:18:35Speaker 05

  That story about the underground pyramid is real. We ran it during last night's 6 o'clock broadcast. A few hours later, a couple of scary guys in suits came by the station and grilled my boss in his own office. Next thing I know, the story is pulled from the 11 o'clock lineup and all the tapes of the story were confiscated. It's all gone.

• 1:18:57AJ Gentile?

  Doug asked why, although, again, he knew the answer. He just wanted to hear this kid say it.

• 1:19:04Speaker 05

  After the suits left, the news director said we had to kill the story because it involved a Chinese nuclear test. It was a matter of national security. We were told to forget about it. The nuclear test, the pyramid, all of it. Pretend it never happened or face criminal charges. That's all I know.

• 1:19:24AJ Gentile?

  The kid begged Doug to keep him out of it, and Doug agreed. Again, as an experienced intelligence officer, Doug knew these tactics. He also knew he shouldn't press the issue with his superiors, so he didn't. But he was annoyed. I was mad. I went back to the office in formation that night. I told everybody what I'd found out. Guys in the unit were like, "Wait a minute, we watched it." "What do you mean they didn't run it?" You know, same thing I was saying.

• 1:19:55AJ Gentile?

  Doug continued his normal duties at Fort Richardson, but he couldn't stop thinking about that pyramid. He was frustrated, but there was no way to get more information. Then, a year later, Doug was transferred to Fort Meade in Maryland, home of the National Security Agency. And that would provide an opportunity.

• 1:20:21AJ Gentile?

  In 1993, Doug Muchler was transferred to Fort Meade, Maryland. Fort Meade is known for being the headquarters of the NSA. Doug said he wasn't working for the NSA, but for a unit nearby.

• 1:20:31Speaker 02

  Oh, he was totally working for the NSA.

• 1:20:34AJ Gentile?

  Probably. Fort Meade was also home to a giant warehouse of files. Row after row, shelf after shelf, floor after floor, it was a giant archive of government activity, and much of it top secret.

• 1:20:47Speaker 02

  Ooh, like where they keep the ark and all that stuff?

• 1:20:50AJ Gentile?

  No, this place was just files.

• 1:20:52Speaker 02

  I'd still like to snoop around there.

• 1:20:54AJ Gentile?

  So would I.

• 1:20:57AJ Gentile?

  Doug played it cool. He introduced himself to the archivist and showed him his credentials. Doug asked if there were any files about archaeological sites in Alaska. He didn't say pyramid or anything like that. He kept his questions nonspecific. The archivist didn't blink. He wrote down a few numbers and handed Doug a slip of paper: the floor, the row, the shelf. Doug was getting closer. He found the Alaska files. He pulled a few and settled into a reading room, but he wouldn't get the chance to learn anything.

• 1:21:26Speaker 02

  Here come the men in black.

• 1:21:31Speaker 02

  And I had just sat down.

• 1:21:35Speaker 02

  And these two guys came. You know, you could feel someone standing behind them. And these two goons go, "Hey, you don't have a need to know for that information."

• 1:21:49AJ Gentile?

  Doug turned around and asked what they meant. He was just looking at archaeological sites in Alaska. They said, "We know what you're looking for. You need to leave the building immediately." Doug asks why.

• 1:22:02Speaker 02

  They don't want us messing with them up there anymore. They don't want you messing with them up there. They don't want us, anybody messing with them. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Messing with who up there?

• 1:22:12AJ Gentile?

  Well, that's what Doug wanted to know, but the two guys...

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  Men in black?

• 1:22:15AJ Gentile?

  Right. They realized they just said too much. Doug left the warehouse, resumed his duties, and kept quiet. But after he left the service, he went public with the story. It turned out that not only is the pyramid real, the military knows exactly where it is. They also know what the pyramid is.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  How?

• 1:22:34AJ Gentile?

  Because they're the ones operating it.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  Yahtzee!

• 1:22:46AJ Gentile?

  Marty Johnson shook his head and quietly laughed. As an engineer in the Navy during World War II, he worked on more than his share of top-secret projects. But this was something else. He was flown from Omaha, Nebraska, to Unalakleet, Alaska, wherever that was, and then rushed onto a white bus with blacked-out windows. On the bus were a few engineers and technicians. Once everyone was settled, the bus started driving east. Nobody was told where they were going or specifically what they were doing. And honestly, Marty didn't care. This was exciting.

• 1:23:21AJ Gentile?

  While most of the passengers seemed nervous, Marty was smiling ear to ear. He felt like a character in a spy novel. After the war, Marty was recruited by Western Electric Manufacturing. Well, technically, he worked for Bell Labs, created from the engineering department of Western Electric and half-owned by AT&T. When offered the job, Marty didn't need much convincing. He'd be working on highly classified projects for the military. His specialty was electrical engineering, but Marty Johnson could build or fix anything you threw at him. He liked to challenge, and working on cutting-edge tech was right up his alley. In the late 40s, he worked with transistors. These little devices revolutionized electronics. He had no idea how Bell came up with the idea,

• 1:24:06AJ Gentile?

  but wow, did they change everything.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  Aliens gave him the transistors.

• 1:24:10AJ Gentile?

  Maybe.

• 1:24:18AJ Gentile?

  Well, here it was, 1959. And Marty felt he was helping invent the future. He couldn't tell his family where he was or what he was doing, but they understood that his work, whatever it was, was very important. After a six-hour bumpy ride, the bus finally stopped. When the door opened, the cold Alaska air rushed in like a punch in the face. Stepping out of the bus was even more shocking. After six hours in the dark, the bright white Alaskan landscape was overpowering. Marty lifted his collar, shielded his eyes, and walked with his colleagues. Once his eyes adjusted, Marty became confused. There was nothing here. Ice, snow, mountains, that's it. Then he heard a shout from up ahead.

• 1:25:05AJ Gentile?

  Two men in uniforms stood next to what looked like a concrete shed in the middle of nowhere. Marty would need answers soon. The cold wind was taking the fun out of this adventure. The group shuffled into the shed. The officers came in last and closed the door. In unison, everyone sighed in relief. One of the officers told the group to grab the rail and hold on. He yanked a metal gate across the door and pushed a button. With a quick jerk, the platform began dropping. Now Marty understood. The shed was just an entrance to this elevator shaft. As the elevator descended, the temperature warmed a bit. It was still cold enough to see his breath, but at least they were spared from the biting wind. Now, after daydreaming a bit, Marty realized

• 1:25:50AJ Gentile?

  they'd been going down for a long time.

• 1:25:54AJ Gentile?

  The elevator finally stopped. The officer opened the gate and gestured for everyone to step out.

• 1:26:01AJ Gentile?

  Marty followed the group out into the hallway. It looked like every military office building he'd ever been in. The gray concrete floor and walls painted green beige, the constant buzzing of overhead fluorescent lights. All too familiar. The group started moving again. Marty felt like he was on a museum tour, just following the crowd. They passed plenty of doors, so this place must be bigger than it looked. The doors had no names, only numbers. Clean, simple, efficient. Definitely military. The officer up front raised his voice a bit, so everyone could hear. Before they started their four-week orientation, they would get to see the project. Finally, Marty thought, judging by the murmurs in the group, he wasn't the only one becoming impatient.

• 1:26:47AJ Gentile?

  After making a few turns here and there, they reached the end of the hallway. They were standing in front of a huge steel door. It had to be 15 feet high and wide enough to drive a car through.

• 1:27:00AJ Gentile?

  The officer grabbed a red phone receiver off the wall and spoke into it. Marty couldn't hear, but he chuckled to himself as he imagined the officer saying, "Open sesame."

• 1:27:11AJ Gentile?

  From somewhere, there was the sound of metal on metal, and the door began to slowly swing open. Not only was the door tall and wide, it had to be a foot thick. What could be in here that required security measures like this? Was it nukes? Marty hoped it wasn't nukes.

• 1:27:29AJ Gentile?

  They walked through the door into a giant cavern. Then Marty saw it, and everything made sense. The blacked-out windows, the secrecy, the security. The officer proudly announced, "Gentlemen, welcome to the Dark Pyramid."

• 1:27:51AJ Gentile?

  In the spring of 78, Lee Pearson was at the Unalacite Airport, trading war stories with a fellow vet. Lee retired and became a teacher, but his new friend, a helicopter pilot, was still in the service. The pilot could tell Lee was missing the excitement of the old days, so he made him an offer. He was making a quick run into the infamous Alaska Triangle.

• 1:28:11Speaker 04

  Lee, I got something that will get your blood pumping. We're taking some important equipment out to a secret base near Denali. You know Mount McKinley? We'll be in and out in four hours. You want to...

• 1:28:22AJ Gentile?

  Lee said absolutely. They hopped in the helicopter and started flying due east. After just under two hours of flight time, the pilot gave Lee a heads up.

• 1:28:36Speaker 02

  Okay, we're just about five miles out. Things are about to get weird. Our instruments are going to go crazy. You're going to hear all kinds of alarms. Don't panic. And we'll go VFR the rest of the way and we'll be fine. VFR?

• 1:28:52AJ Gentile?

  Visual Flight Rules. Basically, you turn off autopilot, keep the ground in sight, and keep your eyes open for obstacles.

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 1:29:00AJ Gentile?

  Then the helicopter's electronics went haywire. The radar screen went out. The compass needle was spinning like a fan. Lee was visibly nervous. Then all the power in the helicopter, the instruments, lights, everything went black.

• 1:29:20AJ Gentile?

  But the helicopter kept flying. A few minutes later, it touched down.

• 1:29:26AJ Gentile?

  Within seconds, a ground crew was refueling them, with the engine running and the rotor spinning. Lee looked around. There were a couple of small guard houses with towers. He saw two or three Quonset Huts. Boxes of equipment were piled here and there. Razor wire was everywhere.

• 1:29:43AJ Gentile?

  Lee looked up. Overhead, a C-130 was flying tight circles over the area. Then, six men in black uniforms start yanking crates of cargo. Lee, being a military man himself, notices the uniforms have no insignia, no unit patches, no rank, no name tape, no identification of any kind. There are men around the perimeter of the landing zone. They're heavily armed and aiming at the helicopter. Lee looks behind them. There's a jeep parked just a few yards away. On top of it is a 50-caliber machine gun. It's loaded, manned, and aimed right at them.

• 1:30:21AJ Gentile?

  Lee glances nervously at the pilot, who gives him a look that says, "Relax, this is normal." In three, maybe four minutes, they're airborne and headed west, back to the airport. Once they get about five miles from the site, all the instruments come back on and everything is working perfectly.

• 1:30:38AJ Gentile?

  Lee asks the pilot, "What the hell was that?" The pilot looks at Lee, taps his headset, and holds his finger in front of his mouth.

• 1:30:46Speaker 02

  "Yeah, they'd be listening to the radio."

• 1:30:48AJ Gentile?

  Yep. At a small bar near the airport, the three men sit at a quiet table in the back. A waitress drops off a round of beers. Lee grabs one, takes a sip, and says, "Okay, let's hear it."

• 1:31:02Speaker 06

  "That place is more secret than the Manhattan Project. Nobody's supposed to know it even exists. Deep underground is a giant pyramid made of black stone. They think it's stone, anyway."

• 1:31:14AJ Gentile?

  Lee asks, "Who would build a giant pyramid underground, and why?"

• 1:31:18Speaker 06

  "All they know is that it's thousands of years old. They've had techs and engineers working there since the 50s. It's a power generator of some kind, and this thing puts out a lot of juice."

• 1:31:32AJ Gentile?

  This sounded crazy to Lee. He asked, "How much power does the pyramid generate?" The pilot said, "Enough to power the whole country."

• 1:31:49AJ Gentile?

  Pyramids as power plants. Sounds like science fiction, but if made of the right materials, it could possibly work. I have an entire episode on how the Great Pyramid of Giza could have created energy, and there's scientific evidence that supports this theory.

• 1:32:04Speaker 02

  Pyramid power, link below.

• 1:32:08AJ Gentile?

  Marty Johnson was very specific about the site and the technology. He said the pyramid was five-

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  Is.

• 1:32:15AJ Gentile?

  He said the pyramid is 550 feet tall, with the base 700 feet below the surface. The angles of the pyramid were 48 degrees, not 45. I don't know why this is important, but Marty said it was. There were enclosed control rooms at each corner. The control rooms measured the energy flowing through the pyramid. The purpose of the project was energy distribution. If they ever got this to work, we don't know. But Marty Johnson's son said his father built a replica of the pyramid made out of aluminum. He ran a small amount of voltage through the pyramid, and that energy was then magnified. This mini-pyramid produced more than enough electricity to power their entire house and farm.

• 1:32:58AJ Gentile?

  It's been theorized that the pyramids in Alaska, Egypt, Indonesia, and other places formed an ancient energy grid. They pulled electricity out of the zero-point field and transmitted it around the planet, maybe even around the solar system.

• 1:33:11Speaker 02

  Free energy cover-up link below.

• 1:33:15AJ Gentile?

  Right. I have an entire episode about inventors who discovered ways to pull energy from the quantum field that exists everywhere.

• 1:33:21Speaker 02

  And what happened to those inventors?

• 1:33:24AJ Gentile?

  All died of mysterious causes.

• 1:33:26Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:33:27AJ Gentile?

  So, is the Dark Pyramid an energy device? We don't know. We have to find it first. And some people think they have.

• 1:33:42AJ Gentile?

  When Doug Mutsler went public with his story, he used the perfect conduit. He contacted Linda Moulton Howe. If you follow UFO news, or you're a fan of Coast to Coast, you know who Linda is. In case you don't, she's an investigative journalist who's been covering UFOs, aliens, and conspiracies for a long time. She actually won an Emmy for one of her UFO documentaries.

• 1:34:04Speaker 02

  Yo, Linda is the UFO OG.

• 1:34:07AJ Gentile?

  She is. She's a legend in the field. She also does her homework. So when Doug emailed her, she got copies of his ID, addresses, and phone numbers. But most importantly, she wanted a copy of his DD-214.

• 1:34:19Speaker 02

  Oh, well, obviously.

• 1:34:21AJ Gentile?

  Oh, you know what a DD-214 is?

• 1:34:23Speaker 02

  Of course I do.

• 1:34:25AJ Gentile?

  Well, then, tell the people.

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to step on your fins. You go ahead.

• 1:34:32AJ Gentile?

  DD-Form 214 is a certificate from the US military that lists everything about your service. The date and place of duty, the date and place of release, assignments, rank, education, MOS, job specialty, decorations, medals, everything. Doug Mutsler produced this document. He was telling the truth. Once Linda reported on the pyramid, other people started coming forward with their own accounts of the Dark Pyramid. Marty Johnson and Lee Pearson's stories come from their sons, who heard them firsthand.

• 1:35:05AJ Gentile?

  Linda heard from a retired naval captain stationed in Alaska. He noticed that aircraft communications always malfunctioned when flying over a certain area, east of Unalakleet and west of Mount Denali. Radar showed massive electromagnetic energy coming from the area. When the captain saw the report about the Chinese nuclear test, he thought the pyramid could be the problem, so he did the logical thing. He reported it to his superior officer.

• 1:35:30Speaker 02

  Stupid.

• 1:35:31AJ Gentile?

  Soon after, he was told to be quiet or face court martial.

• 1:35:34Speaker 02

  Told ya.

• 1:35:35AJ Gentile?

  Lee Pearson's son Bruce believes his father's story. In fact, he thinks his father gave him enough information to find the location of the Dark Pyramid. So Bruce took that information, went to Alaska, hired a plane, and...

• 1:35:49Speaker 02

  And?

• 1:35:50AJ Gentile?

  He might have found it.

• 1:35:51Speaker 02

  Ah!

• 1:35:56Speaker 04

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• 1:36:33AJ Gentile?

  Bruce Pearson's father said the Dark Pyramid was east of Unalakleet and west of Mount Denali, so Bruce hired a pilot to take him to that location. If the base was out there, there would be signs of human activity. After almost two hours of flying, they came across a patch of land that looked squared off.

• 1:36:50Speaker 05

  Go back over that spot again. Yeah. That's not natural. That is not natural.

• 1:36:55AJ Gentile?

  It's not a perfect square, but there are right angles and straight lines. When they came around for another pass, they found the remains of an old road, a road that doesn't appear on any maps. And the most amazing discovery of all, they found an old airstrip. This also does not appear on any maps. So at some point in the past, somebody was using that road and airstrip for something. The nearest marked road is almost 100 miles away.

• 1:37:23AJ Gentile?

  This area is also pretty close to coordinates sent to Linda Moulton Howe by another retired Navy officer. This is the location.

• 1:37:32AJ Gentile?

  Using Google Earth, some people claim they can see an outline of a former compound or structure. I'm not sure I can make anything out, but I link the coordinates below if you want to see for yourself. One man actually hiked to the coordinates to see with his own eyes. In May 2020, Nathan Campbell hired a plane to fly him to Cary Lake in Denali National Park, just a few miles from the pyramid's alleged location. He told the pilot to pick him up at the same location in four months.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  Four months?

• 1:38:00AJ Gentile?

  Yep, but Nathan was prepared. He had good gear, plenty of food, and a satellite communicator to let him radio his family. But after just a few weeks, he stopped checking in.

• 1:38:11AJ Gentile?

  A search team found his campsite. His gear was still there, but no Nathan. He kept a diary. The last entry said, "Went to get water. He's never been found."

• 1:38:23AJ Gentile?

  Some speculate that he actually was found, that he discovered the location of the Dark Pyramid and was deleted. But something to keep in mind: The location of the Dark Pyramid is in the Alaska Triangle.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  Ah, the underground base.

• 1:38:38AJ Gentile?

  Yep.

• 1:38:41AJ Gentile?

  For 20 years, the CIA operated Project Stargate. This was essentially a psychic spy project. Stargate did a lot of different things, but its primary focus was remote viewing. Remote viewing is projecting your consciousness to any place on Earth.

• 1:38:55Speaker 02

  Project Stargate link below. But if you were psychic, you already knew that.

• 1:39:02AJ Gentile?

  One of the most talented remote viewers was Pat Price. Pat was able to see an underground base hidden inside a mountain right in the middle of the Alaska Triangle: Mount Hayes.

• 1:39:12Speaker 02

  Mount motherf***ing Hayes.

• 1:39:14AJ Gentile?

  OK, that's enough.

• 1:39:16Speaker 02

  Mount motherf***ing Hayes link below.

• 1:39:20AJ Gentile?

  Pat discovered that the base was operated by humans and aliens working together. I bring this up because Linda Moulton Howe found a witness who remote viewed the Dark Pyramid.

• 1:39:33AJ Gentile?

  She first saw a small building. She went in.

• 1:39:38AJ Gentile?

  Then she saw an elevator that went hundreds of feet down. She followed that.

• 1:39:44AJ Gentile?

  Then she found herself in what looked like a military facility. There was a lab. Then she saw a huge, black, sloped wall. She pulled away a bit. It was the Dark Pyramid. All around the pyramid was equipment, lights, people working. It was very busy. She scanned the area and found a network of hallways and tunnels. She saw offices, sleeping areas, a kitchen. Finally, she found herself with a group of people being taken on a tour by the facility's leader. She was stunned. The tour guide was not human. It was human-like, but definitely not human. Then she learned the true purpose of the Dark Pyramid.

• 1:40:26AJ Gentile?

  It is an energy device. It's a charging station for UFOs.

• 1:40:32AJ Gentile?

  There have been over 6,500 UFO sightings in the Alaska Triangle. It's one of the most active UFO hotspots in the world, and now we know why. The craft are using the pyramid for energy. And that's why the military never got it to work, and they never will. The aliens in charge don't work for us. We work for them.

• 1:40:59AJ Gentile?

  When Linda Moulton Howe exposed the Dark Pyramid in 2012, the story was a phenomenon. And it's easy to see why. We've got credible witnesses and evidence of human activity in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness. Thousands of people really do go missing in Alaska every year. There really are thousands of UFO sightings there. But is the Dark Pyramid real? Well, let's dissect it. Our first witness is Douglas Muchler, a former military intelligence officer. Now, believers in the stories say he's a very credible witness. He's provided documents that prove he is exactly who he says he is. That's true. But if you follow this channel, you know how I feel about whistleblowers from military intelligence. I don't trust them.

• 1:41:41AJ Gentile?

  I'm not saying every one of them, or any one of them, is lying, but some of them are. We know Richard Doty's shady history of spreading disinformation within the UFO community. Hal Puthoff, Christopher Mellon, Luis Elizondo, David Grush, and now Doug Muchler? All whistleblowers, all connected to military intelligence. Now, I'm not saying Doug Muchler is lying, but I do view his story skeptically. In his defense, the Chinese did detonate an underground nuke on May 22, 1992. But that's five or six months earlier than Doug claims. But he waited 20 years to come forward. Maybe some of his details are hazy. He said almost 40 other soldiers saw the news report about the underground pyramid. None of those soldiers have come forward.

• 1:42:26AJ Gentile?

  If you go to Linda's website, earthfiles.com, you could see the original emails Doug sent to her. The details change a little over time. At some point, he says, "China informed the UN about the underground test." That didn't happen. When the nuke went off in May, the world was taken by surprise, and the UN condemned the test. Still, he says this happened late November, early December, 1992. There was no nuclear test done then. There just wasn't. So there'd be no news report of it. But what's interesting is, there was a major earthquake in Egypt in October 1992.

• 1:43:10AJ Gentile?

  The earthquake was a 5.3, the highest ever recorded in the area. At least 500 people died. The UN did come in to provide aid and monitor any damage to the ancient sites. There was news coverage of that for weeks, because people were worried about the Sphinx and the pyramids. Now, it's possible, it's even likely, that Doug is conflating a few different memories. And there's no shame in that. Human memory is notoriously bad. But what about Lee Pearson and his son Bruce? Well, we only have Bruce's word. Same with Marty Johnson. These were real people, no doubt, but they haven't given us any physical evidence, only their word. And what about remote viewers? Do you believe them? For the most part, I don't.

• 1:43:53AJ Gentile?

  But I do believe Pat Price saw something under Mount... Mount... Don't... Uh. Not only do I believe in Pat Price's ability, I believe he was killed because of it. Check out the episode on Project 8200. I get into all the details. The last and most important name in this story is Linda Moulton Howe. I've followed her work for years. She was great whenever she was on coast to coast with Art Bell. But she is a true believer. Yes, she does her homework, but she goes into a story believing it, and she focuses on investigating details to support the story. Lots of UFO and paranormal researchers do this. Almost all of them do. I approach these stories from the other side. I go in not believing, but I don't focus on debunking.

• 1:44:37AJ Gentile?

  I honestly try to find as much evidence as I can to defend a hard-to-believe story. Sometimes, after researching, I'll change my mind. I thought the hollow moon theory was nonsense until I did an episode on it. Now I'm pretty sure the moon is... The moon is weird. I thought crop circles were 100% man-made, but after researching, I can tell you this for sure: almost 100% are man-made, but there are a few that can't be explained or debunked. They just can't. I don't know if there's a pyramid buried in Alaska, but if there is, I'm pretty sure it can generate energy, just like the Great Pyramid of Giza did when the Anunnaki built it 130,000 years ago. Prove me wrong.

• 1:45:28AJ Gentile?

  That is still one of my favorite episodes. Now, we're gonna go all the way back to the beginning to episode number 22 about Mount Rushmore. And this one's only six minutes long, but it feels a lot longer than that.

• 1:45:45AJ Gentile?

  It's one of the most recognizable and most visited landmarks in America. But Mount Rushmore has a secret. The sculpture, which famously depicts four former US presidents as 60-foot granite faces, was constructed between 1927 and 1941, under the direction of architect Gutzon Borgen. Everybody knows that. But few people know about the secret project Borgen was working on as part of the monument. Let's find out why.

• 1:46:15AJ Gentile?

  Freedom, hope, justice. South Dakota's beloved national memorial, Mount Rushmore, is a testament to these deeply cherished American values.

• 1:46:24Speaker 02

  Justice? Tell that to the Indians they stole the land from.

• 1:46:28AJ Gentile?

  Let's keep it nice.

• 1:46:30Speaker 02

  You got it, Kemosabe.

• 1:46:32AJ Gentile?

  By the 1920s, South Dakota, now a US state, had become a popular road trip destination for Americans. They drove in to see the newly-designed Black Hills National Forest and Wild Cave National Park. Governor Peter Norvick had also built the Needles Highway, a scenic route winding through the granite formations of the Black Hills. But Don Robinson, a historian at the South Dakota State Historical Society, believed the state needed a little something more to entice tourists. In 1924, he learned about an attempt to carve the likenesses of Confederate leaders into the side of Stone Mountain in Georgia. So Robinson launched a campaign to create South Dakota's own monument. Robinson envisioned sort of an ode to the Old West, with historic figures like Lewis and Clark and Lakota leader Red Cloud.

• 1:47:17AJ Gentile?

  He reached out to Stone Mountain sculptor Gutzon Borgen to transform the granite mountain into what it is today. Now, Borgen became famous for sculptures honoring US history. He was also famous for his flamboyant and bombastic personality. In Georgia, he became involved with the Stone Mountain Project, but soon began to clash with the Stone Mountain Memorial Association. And in February 1925, the association fired Borgen, citing mismanagement of funds and his offensive egotism and his delusions of grandeur. Borgen made national news when he destroyed the Stone Mountain models and fled the state.

• 1:47:52Speaker 02

  That sounds perfect for a government president.

• 1:47:54AJ Gentile?

  Borglum was talked into working on Mount Rushmore because it was a chance at immortality, and he liked the sound of that. So over the next 16 years, Borglum wrestled with the federal government over funding and control of Mount Rushmore, which he technically never completed. Borglum wanted to carve the presidents down to their waists and chisel a description of the memorial next to them. But when it became clear that there wasn't enough space for an inscription or a lot of this stuff, he came up with a new idea. He envisioned a grand hall measuring 80 feet tall and 100 feet long, accessible via an 800-foot granite staircase. That would include busts of famous Americans, as well as bronze and glass cabinets containing

• 1:48:35AJ Gentile?

  historical documents like the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence. And a massive bronze eagle with a 38-foot wingspan would be mounted above the entrance with the inscription reading "The Hall of Records." Now Borglum believed that future generations might find Mount Rushmore as much a mystery as Stonehenge or the pyramids of Egypt. So he wanted to come up with a way to preserve its history and make sure the story behind the carving would never be forgotten. So the vault was built to be just behind Abraham Lincoln's hairline and would contain all the information anyone would ever need to know about the mountain.

• 1:49:08Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, wait. So they would have to blow a hole in Lincoln's head to do this?

• 1:49:13AJ Gentile?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:14Speaker 02

  And nobody saw a problem with that?

• 1:49:15AJ Gentile?

  You know, I never really thought of that.

• 1:49:17Speaker 02

  Six semper terris.

• 1:49:20AJ Gentile?

  Work on the Hall of Records began in July 1938 but was halted a year later. Congress wanted construction to focus on the presidents first before moving on to the hall.

• 1:49:30Speaker 02

  Everyone's got a side project.

• 1:49:31AJ Gentile?

  I know.

• 1:49:32Speaker 02

  Hey, you want to read my screenplay?

• 1:49:34AJ Gentile?

  Nope. Despite what Congress said, Borglum, he went ahead with the project anyway. The onset of World War II in 1941 slowed down the vault project. It only got as far as a 70-foot cavern blasted into the mountain. And Borglum was still refining the presidents when his health began to deteriorate. He died on March 6, 1941, leaving his son Lincoln to continue the work. But the project kept running into problems. For example, Jefferson's head couldn't be completed due Due to the quality of the stone. In fact, Jefferson was originally supposed to be on Washington's right side, but the stone was too weak, so they kind of improvised as they went along. Now, eventually, funding ran out and the project was declared final and complete

• 1:50:18AJ Gentile?

  on October 31st, 1941.

• 1:50:20Speaker 02

  Finished?

• 1:50:21AJ Gentile?

  Yep, finished. The statues are incomplete, the inscription was never started, and the rock that was blasted out of the mountain is still lying in a huge pile at the site. They said it was good enough.

• 1:50:32Speaker 02

  It sounds like a government-run project.

• 1:50:35AJ Gentile?

  So for over 50 years, the Hall of Records was just...

• 1:50:38Speaker 02

  A hole in Lincoln's head?

• 1:50:39AJ Gentile?

  Right, but for decades, Borglam's descendants petitioned the government to complete the room in honor of his work. And finally, in 1998, officials agreed to a scaled-back version of the idea. Today, sculpted into a series of porcelain enamel panels, is the story and history of Mount Rushmore, along with an explanation of why Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, and Lincoln were chosen. There are also panels sculpted with the text of the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, and the Gettysburg Address. Park officials even included a biography of Borglam. They're all kept inside a titanium vault behind a giant 1,200-pound granite slab. Now, the Hall of Records, it's not open to the public. Strict security measures have been put in place following a breach by Greenpeace, who hung a banner

• 1:51:23AJ Gentile?

  reading "Stop Global Warming" over the monument in 2009.

• 1:51:26Speaker 02

  What does Mount Rushmore have to do with global warming?

• 1:51:29AJ Gentile?

  I honestly have no idea. Even high-ranking officials of the government are banned from seeing this hidden and largely unknown chamber. But its true intent was to serve as a historical record for future civilizations, so we can imagine that Borglam would be pleased to know that his project was finally completed, and may one day do exactly what he intended.

• 1:51:51Speaker 02

  Oh, six minutes. Those were the days, huh?

• 1:51:54AJ Gentile?

  Things were simpler, that's for sure.

• 1:51:56Speaker 02

  Ah, hey, how many views did that video get the first day?

• 1:51:59AJ Gentile?

  192.

• 1:52:00Speaker 02

  Thousand?

• 1:52:01AJ Gentile?

  No, just 192.

• 1:52:03Speaker 02

  Ah, well, don't feel bad. That video wasn't very good.

• 1:52:06AJ Gentile?

  Anyway, next is episode number 39 about the Outlook Pass, which is an incident in which some hikers ran into some grisly misfortune on the mountain. And this is one of the first episodes I was proud of because I think I came up with a plausible explanation for what happened to them, at least I hope I'm right, because it's, it's, it's pretty gruesome. But this episode does have a touching ending. Enjoy.

• 1:52:40AJ Gentile?

  When the helicopter rescue team arrived at the Outlook Pass in February 1959, the nine missing hikers had been dead for weeks. The more the investigators tried to piece together what happened, the more the story didn't seem to add up. Their tent had been cut open from the inside and abandoned, but there was no sign of a struggle. Over a half mile away, two victims were almost completely naked, though temperatures were 30 below zero that night. Other bodies were found even farther away. Two had fractured skulls. Two more had major chest injuries. One was missing his eyes, and another was missing her tongue. And reports show that two of the hikers had been exposed to unusually high

• 1:53:21AJ Gentile?

  amounts of radiation. Soviet investigators listed the cause of death as "a compelling natural force" and closed the case a few weeks later. The Diatlov Pass incident has been a mystery for over 60 years, and theories include a military cover-up, a KGB operation gone wrong, a Bigfoot attack, and of course, aliens. Now, one researcher believes he knows what happened that night. Others are not so sure. Let's find out why.

• 1:53:53AJ Gentile?

  In the winter of 1959, nine Russian adventurers were on a 200-mile cross-country hiking expedition, making their way through the Siberian wilderness. This was difficult terrain, but the seven men and two women were young, fit, and highly experienced skiers and mountain climbers. They were led by 23-year-old Igor Diam. Yatalov, a promising student studying engineering at the Uropolytechnic Institute. A few others in the group were classmates of his at UPI. Now, before he left, Yatalov told his friends back home that he would send them a telegram as soon as the team returned. Well, that letter was never sent, and none of the group was ever seen alive again. The hikers documented everything. They kept journals and they took tons of pictures.

• 1:54:34Speaker 02

  They took selfies?

• 1:54:35AJ Gentile?

  Tons of them. Now, sure, there was lots of snow and frigid temperatures, but everyone was in good spirits, and things seemed to be going predictably, until February 1st. That day, the group was making its way through Dyatlov Pass, though back then it didn't have a name. And as they tried to push through, they were hit with high winds and snow. The decreasing visibility pushed the group off course, and they accidentally ended up on the side of a mountain called Kolatsyakol by the region's indigenous people.

• 1:55:03Speaker 02

  Cola- Kulats?

• 1:55:05AJ Gentile?

  Kolatsyakol.

• 1:55:05Speaker 02

  Right. We got a translation?

• 1:55:08AJ Gentile?

  Dead mountain.

• 1:55:08Speaker 02

  Oh, boy.

• 1:55:09AJ Gentile?

  This is a photo of the group, in deep snow with almost zero visibility, digging out a platform for their tent. This is the last photo of them alive. The final entry in the group's diary reads:

• 1:55:21Speaker 00

  "It is difficult to imagine such a comfort on the ridge, with shrill howling wind, hundreds of kilometers away from human settlements."

• 1:55:28AJ Gentile?

  And then, nothing.

• 1:55:33AJ Gentile?

  During their journey, members of the group sent postcards and letters to family and friends, informing them of their progress. But weeks had gone by without a single word, so people began to worry. On February 26th, almost a month later, a search party was finally able to locate the campsite. And when they did, it was obvious something had gone terribly wrong. The tent, where the entire group slept, was discovered under a thin layer of snow. It had been cut open from the inside, but there was no sign of a struggle. Food, clothes, gear were still neatly stacked inside the tent. A meal had been set up, but the food was untouched. And there were no bodies. The next day, nine sets of footprints were found leading down the mountain into the woods.

• 1:56:18AJ Gentile?

  The tracks were evenly spaced, and they weren't deep. This told investigators that the group was moving calmly and orderly. They weren't scrambling, they weren't running, and they weren't fighting. But the tracks were odd. They weren't made with boots. The tracks were made by people wearing socks or barefoot in sub-zero temperatures. Searchers then came across a cedar tree where they found the remains of a campfire. And near the fire, buried in the snow, were the first two victims of Dyatlov Pass. Doroshenko and Krivonashenko. They were almost naked, wearing only underwear, though temperatures were 30 degrees below zero that night. Krivonashenko had blackened fingers and third-degree burns on his shins and feet.

• 1:57:00AJ Gentile?

  And for some reason, in his mouth was a chunk of flesh that he had bitten off his right hand. The tree limbs above the fire were broken over five meters above the ground. And pieces of flesh were found in the tree bark, and scraps of clothing were found in the branches. Now, why would they climb a tree? Was visibility so poor that they were looking for a way back to the tent? Were they gathering wood for the fire? Or were they trying to get away from something? Rescuers expanded the search area, and about 200 feet away, they found three more bodies, including Igor Dyatlov. They were positioned as if they were running away from the tree, trying to get back to the tent. Investigators said all of them had died of hypothermia,

• 1:57:42AJ Gentile?

  as they had no damage except for superficial injuries and what would be caused by exposure to cold. But this doesn't explain why Doroshenko, who was found under the tree, had skin that was brownish-purple, or why he had gray foam and gray liquid coming out of his mouth. It didn't explain the burns, the flayed limbs, or why someone would bite off a chunk of their own hand. The second set of bodies was also confusing. One of them had multiple skull fractures consistent with falling and tumbling over and over again. But there were no bloody rocks, or stumps, or any evidence anywhere that a fall had occurred. The only explanation at this point that despite being highly experienced in outdoor winter survival, they had suddenly fled into the dark and the cold without adequate preparation,

• 1:58:26AJ Gentile?

  and were frantically trying to make do before succumbing to the elements.

• 1:58:29Speaker 02

  That's only five.

• 1:58:30AJ Gentile?

  What?

• 1:58:31Speaker 02

  Well, that's only five out of nine hikers. Did they find any of the four?

• 1:58:34AJ Gentile?

  They did, but not until months later. And when those bodies were discovered, the story gets even stranger.

• 1:58:44AJ Gentile?

  Four bodies were still missing for months. But in May, when the snow began to melt, a local hunter found a makeshift snow den in the woods about 250 feet from the cedar tree. A deep hole was cut in the snow, and the floor was made of branches. Pieces of clothing were found scattered around the den. Black sweatpants with the right leg cut off, the left half of a woman's sweater. Another search team arrived, and they uncovered the four remaining victims, lying together in at least 10 feet of snow. Autopsy reports say that these people died not of exposure, but of massive injuries. And at this point, criminal investigators were brought in to determine if there was foul play. Three of the bodies had severe injuries: crushed body cavities, broken ribs, and internal hemorrhaging.

• 1:59:27AJ Gentile?

  One had a skull fracture so severe that foul play was eliminated because no human could generate the kind of force to create this level of damage. Instead, the injuries were consistent with being in a car crash or near the explosion of a bomb. But no soft-tissue damage was found, and no external injuries. A careful inventory of clothing recovered showed that some of the victims were wearing clothes taken or cut off the bodies of the others that died before them.

• 1:59:54Speaker 02

  Avalanche?

• 1:59:56AJ Gentile?

  Well, that's what they originally thought, but an avalanche would have flattened the whole campsite. But if you look at the photos of the tent the searchers found, you can see that the skis and ski poles are still upright. There was no damage to the tree line, and there was no debris. And people who die of avalanches usually asphyxiate. But postmortem analysis shows no sign of this. They either died from injuries or died of cold. But either way, when they died, they were still breathing. The locals say that the Otluf Pass doesn't get avalanches. None were reported before the incident, and none have been reported since. And what's even more strange is two of the hikers' eyes were missing. And one of them was missing her tongue.

• 2:00:35Speaker 02

  Avalanches don't do that.

• 2:00:36AJ Gentile?

  They don't. And maybe the strangest detail of all: Two of the hikers' clothing had significant levels of radiation.

• 2:00:43Speaker 02

  They were radioactive?

• 2:00:45AJ Gentile?

  Yep. Now, despite all of this strange evidence, the case went nowhere due to what was called "an absence of a guilty party." The investigation was closed a few weeks later. The final conclusion was that the cause of death was an unknown compelling force which the hikers were unable to overcome.

• 2:01:01Speaker 02

  And that was it?

• 2:01:02AJ Gentile?

  That was it. But the victims' families weren't satisfied, so they started demanding answers from the Soviet government.

• 2:01:08Speaker 02

  How did the Soviets respond?

• 2:01:10AJ Gentile?

  Well, all files, journals, and photographs were classified. The area was made off-limits, and all evidence collected was destroyed.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 2:01:18AJ Gentile?

  But there is no shortage of theories about what happened.

• 2:01:21Speaker 02

  No, can we?

• 2:01:23AJ Gentile?

  We can.

• 2:01:25AJ Gentile?

  Theories about what happened at the Dyatlov Pass. There are some good ones. I'll cover a few, but I'll link to the full list in the description. The first theory is...

• 2:01:33Speaker 02

  Aliens?

• 2:01:34AJ Gentile?

  Be patient.

• 2:01:35Speaker 02

  Sorry, sorry. Go ahead.

• 2:01:36AJ Gentile?

  Remember that a lot of the hikers were students at the Uropolytechnic Institute or connected with UPI in some way? Well, UPI was constantly turning out recruits for nuclear research and the Soviet military.

• 2:01:48Speaker 02

  Ooh, I like where this is going.

• 2:01:51AJ Gentile?

  First theory: the KGB connection. Alexei Radikin wrote a book called "The Dyatlov Pass", where he claimed that three of the hikers were KGB agents on a mission to uncover a secret cell of CIA operatives. During the Cold War, a favorite Soviet tactic was to plant radioactive material in places it didn't belong, just to set the Americans on fruitless searches. Now, Radikin says that two or three of the hikers were hired by the KGB to deliver radioactive tainted clothing to CIA agents. And the oldest member of the group, at age 37, Semyon Zolotaryov, joined the group at the last minute.

• 2:02:26Speaker 02

  Suss.

• 2:02:27AJ Gentile?

  He was a combat veteran with years of military service who eventually went to work for the NKVD, or the Soviet secret police. And before transferring to the physics department at UPI, he worked in Moscow at a top-secret scientific facility known as PO Box 3394. And Yuri Krivanishenko worked at PO Box 404/10, where a massive nuclear accident occurred in 1957. Alexei Radikin is convinced that this group was not gathered by accident. The histories of at least three of the hikers show a lot of KGB connection. The true objective of their mission, unknown to the other members, was to deliver radioactive samples to a group of agents of the CIA and take pictures of the spies.

• 2:03:09AJ Gentile?

  At the beginning of the journey, all the hikers had cameras and journals. We saw them. But when Kolevatov's body was discovered, his journal and camera were missing, and he was one of the suspected spies. Now, theory number two. Like, who's this guy?

• 2:03:28AJ Gentile?

  In 2014, the Discovery Channel released a documentary called "Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives." And they used the Dyatlov Incident to make their case that the hikers had disturbed the natural habitat of a yeti. And they used this photo as evidence. The doc went on to say that the yeti was the reason the bodies were missing eyes and a tongue. Now, this photo has been authenticated. It's absolutely real. But it doesn't look much like a Bigfoot to me. And that documentary was... well, it was garbage. So, next theory.

• 2:03:57Speaker 02

  Aliens?

• 2:03:58AJ Gentile?

  Ball lightning.

• 2:03:58Speaker 02

  Close enough.

• 2:03:59AJ Gentile?

  This theory says that the reason for the tent being cut from the inside was not to escape, but to set up a camera on a makeshift tripod. Dyatlov himself had experimented with telescopes and was interested in spaceflight and astronomy. The local Nancy people had reported seeing glowing golden orbs in the sky that same night. And another hiking group camping 50 kilometers away also reported orange-floating orbs in the exact same place at the exact same time. They even recovered photos from one of the cameras that shows some type of lights in the sky. Lev Ivanov, the lead investigator of the incident, said, "I suspected at the time, and I'm almost sure now, that these bright-flying spheres had a direct connection to the group's death."

• 2:04:43AJ Gentile?

  He also reported that the treetops in the area were burned above a certain height. In 1990, after Ivanov retired, he published an article claiming that the Soviet government forced him to abandon this theory, and they removed everything from the report that mentioned UFOs, orbs, or anything unusual. He insisted the deaths were due to heat rays or balls of fire associated with orbs.

• 2:05:05Speaker 02

  Yes!

• 2:05:06AJ Gentile?

  Another scientific theory is that a rare weather event generated infrasound that caused the hikers to suddenly become disoriented and anxious. Donnie Iker, who spent five years researching the incident and actually visited the site, believes that a wind phenomenon called a Karman vortex street could have produced a terrifying, powerful sound, which is proven to induce irrational fear in humans. We have a video about this on the channel. I'll link below.

• 2:05:31Speaker 02

  Nice plug!

• 2:05:33AJ Gentile?

  Now if hit with infrasound, the group might have fled the tent and fallen victim to the cold before they realized what was happening. Now those are just a few of the theories that have been circulating for years. Some say a weapons test went wrong. Others say the military killed the group and staged the scene. Carbon monoxide poisoning is another theory, or a bad mushroom trip, though toxicology reports discount those theories.

• 2:05:55Speaker 02

  If you believe the reports.

• 2:05:57AJ Gentile?

  If you believe the reports. Nobody has been able to come up with a definitive answer. That is, until this year. Two scientists think they've solved the mystery of the Atlov Pass, and they used the movie Frozen to prove their theory.

• 2:06:09Speaker 02

  Did you just say they used Frozen?

• 2:06:11AJ Gentile?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:11Speaker 02

  The Disney movie?

• 2:06:13AJ Gentile?

  That's right.

• 2:06:13Speaker 02

  Let it go, let it go.

• 2:06:19Speaker 02

  That one?

• 2:06:20AJ Gentile?

  Yeah, that one.

• 2:06:21Speaker 02

  No, this I gotta hear.

• 2:06:24AJ Gentile?

  Though the avalanche theory has been mostly dismissed, a new theory has been proposed that the hikers were hit by a very specific and rare kind of avalanche. Johann Gohm, a scientist who studies snow phenomena, was watching the movie Frozen with-

• 2:06:37Speaker 02

  Let it go, let it go. I'm a fish and I like water, let it go.

• 2:06:45AJ Gentile?

  You done?

• 2:06:46Speaker 02

  I love that movie.

• 2:06:47AJ Gentile?

  Gohm noticed that Disney had created very realistic snow movement, so he worked with studio animators to develop a model that shows how the group could have been hit by what's called a delayed slab avalanche. This kind of avalanche occurs when you affect the warm, wet snow at the bottom of a slope. This causes the entire face of snow to eventually move at once. Now think about when you have two books stacked on top of each other. You could tilt them and they'll stick together until you reach a certain angle.

• 2:07:16AJ Gentile?

  The top book slides. Now, an avalanche only requires a 20-degree slope to trigger it. Now, the Atlov camp was built at 23 degrees. Gohm believes that when they cut into the snow to build their tent, it started a countdown. They initiated a chain reaction of micro disturbances that took a few hours to propagate. Now trapped under the slab, the group might have panicked and cut their way out. The injuries sustained by some of the group would have been consistent with another slab hitting them at full force.

• 2:07:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, but what about all the, you know, the weird stuff?

• 2:07:47AJ Gentile?

  Well, Gohm says-

• 2:07:48Speaker 05

  We say that this is possible, that such a slab avalanche would have injured them the way they were injured. Everything that happened after the avalanche is out of the scope of our paper.

• 2:07:59AJ Gentile?

  Though it wasn't snowing that night, the hikers did have journal entries about howling winds. These were most likely katabatic winds. And katabatic winds fall down a slope and quickly gain speed due to gravity. And the winds are hurricane force, and they were absolutely detected by local weather stations that night. So, the hikers cut their camp into the snow, which disturbed the slab. Then katabatic winds started blowing snow on top of the slab above the tent. And over the course of hours, the weight of the snow above camp reached critical mass, causing the entire slab to fall. Now, using the Disney snow animation, it was shown that just a small avalanche, maybe five by five meters, would have been enough to cover the camp. But not enough snow that the rescue team would have noticed.

• 2:08:42AJ Gentile?

  Especially since they didn't arrive on scene for 26 more days. So, given this new information, can we piece together what happened to Dyatlov and his friends that night? I think we can.

• 2:08:55AJ Gentile?

  KGB, UFOs, orbs of light? These are fun theories. But I think this is what happened. The slab avalanche hits, covering them in a few feet of snow. The nine campers cut their way out of the tent.

• 2:09:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, but the...

• 2:09:08AJ Gentile?

  What?

• 2:09:09Speaker 02

  Why leave all their stuff in the tent and then go out in the cold in their skivvies?

• 2:09:13AJ Gentile?

  Well, it was discovered that they had a second stash of supplies in the forest. So they escape the avalanche, knowing they have backup supplies. They retreat to the trees and start a fire. The young trees at the bottom of the slope were icy and wet, so they climbed the cedar in search of dry wood. But with temperatures 30 below zero, they had very little time to save themselves. The two most poorly dressed were probably the first to go. The burned skin, probably from being desperately close to the fire, and with hypothermia setting in, they were losing sensation and didn't realize they were being burned. Krivenashenko, losing feeling and probably becoming delirious, bites his hand to test for sensation, and he dies within an hour. Seven survivors cut the clothes away from their friends and dress themselves in whatever they can scavenge from the bodies.

• 2:09:57AJ Gentile?

  Three of the group, including Dyatlov, try to make it back to the tent. But the steep incline and loose snow make it a difficult task. They soon freeze to death in the struggle uphill. decide to build a snow shelter for the night. They find deep snow in a ravine a couple of hundred feet away. But their bad luck continues. And they pick a spot near a fast-running stream that never freezes. The stream cuts away the snow above their shelter, causing the roof to collapse. They're thrown onto the rocky stream bed and buried under 10 or 15 feet of snow. Now, in general, snow weighs about 20 pounds per cubic foot. A little over a pound per inch of depth. A section of snow that's 20 feet by 20 feet with a depth of 10 feet?

• 2:10:41AJ Gentile?

  That weighs between 85,000 and 100,000 pounds. That's 50 tons falling on you. So it's like being crushed under a tank. So your injuries would be severe. The missing eyes and tongue probably caused by scavenging animals or just by three months of decomposition near running water.

• 2:10:58Speaker 02

  What about the radiation?

• 2:10:59AJ Gentile?

  Right. The lanterns they used, which were found at the site, contain small amounts of thorium, which is radioactive. And remember, at least two of the hikers worked at a nuclear facility and helped with cleanup after an accident that was almost as bad as Chernobyl. So in retrospect, the nine campers made only one mistake: the placement of the tent. Everything else was by the book. They conducted an orderly evacuation to safer ground. They took shelter in the woods, started a fire, and dug out a snow cave. The textbook wrong decision in an avalanche is to stay put. Unfortunately, that wrong decision might have saved their lives.

• 2:11:46AJ Gentile?

  Now, today, Dyatlov Pass is a popular tourist destination. People come from all over the world to follow the group's footsteps and see where the tent once stood. People say prayers at the stream and leave flowers under the cedar tree, where its broken branches are still visible. And just before the team embarked on their adventure, Krivanashenko wrote a poem addressing the entire group.

• 2:12:07Speaker 05

  Here's wishing you camps pitched on Mount Afar. Routes to hike over ranges untamed. Packs that as ever rest lightly on your backs. And weather that smiles upon your quest. And let your footprints trace winding tracks across the map.

• 2:12:23AJ Gentile?

  Of Russia. It's been over 60 years since the Atleev and eight of his courageous friends died on Dead Mountain. But I'm sure they'd be proud to know that not only did they leave their footprints on the map of Russia, but on the map of the entire world.

• 2:12:44AJ Gentile?

  All right, let's change the tone a little bit. Next is another old episode, number 21. The science of ancient acoustic levitation. This is a theory that tries to explain how ancient people were able to move these giant stone blocks, like to build the pyramid, Coral Castle, the Temple of Jupiter. Now, I know officially the Great Pyramid was built using ramps. Ha! Yeah, I don't know about that either. But it's very possible they were built by sound. And it's possible they were not built by Egyptians.

• 2:13:23AJ Gentile?

  Ancient civilizations possessed knowledge that has been lost to time. I think that's obvious. But to be fair, most lost knowledge is probably not practical to us today, anyway. I mean, who cares what bacterial infections some ancient swami cured with pine nuts and prayer, when we could just use an antibiotic? And if some shaman or witch doctor discovered how I can make windows not update the very second I start a Zoom call? Well, I'd love to know that secret. But shamans are typically Mac people, so not a problem for them. But what about ancient technologies that would be of practical use today? Like levitation, specifically levitating large, heavy objects. Now, that would be useful. Many people believe levitation, specifically sound or acoustic levitation,

• 2:14:08AJ Gentile?

  was how ancient civilizations like the Egyptians built the pyramids. There's actual science that supports this. Let's find out why.

• 2:14:20AJ Gentile?

  The ruins of several ancient civilizations like the Pyramids of Giza, Stonehenge in the UK, and many others are monuments constructed of massive stones. And the first question we have to ask is, why? Why use huge ridiculously heavy pieces of stone when the same structures could have been made with smaller blocks, like bricks?

• 2:14:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, they was showing off.

• 2:14:41AJ Gentile?

  But we're looking at that question through a modern lens, based on the technologies that are available to us today. We do know that sound can levitate objects, and I'll get into how that works a little bit later, but current acoustic levitation technology can only move tiny objects with very little mass. Nobody's building pyramids at MIT. And if you are, awesome. Some researchers think ancient cultures may have mastered levitation through sound, which allowed them to easily manipulate massive objects.

• 2:15:10Speaker 02

  Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

• 2:15:15AJ Gentile?

  Yes, the Jedi were an ancient culture, but let's look at cultures in our own galaxy. How the Great Pyramids of Egypt were built has been the subject of debate for a long time.

• 2:15:25Speaker 02

  Aliens.

• 2:15:26AJ Gentile?

  The fact is, no one really knows for certain how they were constructed.

• 2:15:30Speaker 02

  Oh, the aliens know.

• 2:15:32AJ Gentile?

  The mainstream theory is that it took a workforce of about 5,000 men and 20 years to build the Great Pyramid using ropes, pulleys, ramps, and cranes. And that may very well be the case, though I have my doubts. And if you guys want a whole video on the construction of the pyramids, let me know in the comments. There's a lot to cover about pyramids. For example, they weren't built by slaves.

• 2:15:52Speaker 02

  Aliens don't need slaves.

• 2:15:54AJ Gentile?

  Can we cool it with the aliens for just a minute? But let's talk about the 10th-century historian Abuul Hassan Ali Al-Masoodi. He's known as the Heroditus of the Arabs. And Al-Masoodi traveled all over the world but finally settled in Egypt, where he wrote a 30-volume history of the world. Like everyone, he was awestruck by the pyramids. And he wrote a very intriguing passage about how the giant stone blocks were transported. First, magic papyrus was imprinted with symbols and placed under each stone. Then the stone was struck with a metal rod that caused it to slowly rise above the ground. The stone then moved along a path that was paved with other stones and fenced in by metal poles. The stone traveled along this path for about 50 meters, then gently settled to the ground.

• 2:16:38AJ Gentile?

  And this process was then repeated over and over again until the builders had the stone exactly where they wanted it. Now, some believe metal poles could have been used to create high-frequency sound vibrations, which would have been responsible for creating the levitation effects. Now, given that the pyramids were already thousands of years old when Al Masoudi wrote this, we have to wonder where he got his information. Was this an oral history passed down through the generations, or just a great story created by a talented writer?

• 2:17:05Speaker 02

  Um, can I make a quick point?

• 2:17:06AJ Gentile?

  Go ahead.

• 2:17:07Speaker 02

  May I refer you to Clark's Third Law?

• 2:17:10AJ Gentile?

  Right. Clark's Third Law says any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

• 2:17:16Speaker 02

  Bingo.

• 2:17:17AJ Gentile?

  The Great Pyramid of Giza does possess some extraordinary acoustic properties, and can dramatically amplify sounds at certain frequencies. So the Egyptians clearly knew a lot about sound science, and how it could be used to produce powerful effects, possibly including levitation. Did striking the rock create vibrations that resulted in sonic levitation? Maybe the layout of stones and rods created some kind of magnetic levitation. The science for either scenario is sufficiently advanced, and therefore, to Al Masoudi and to us, is indistinguishable from magic. Now, the pyramids aren't the only ancient structures made of huge stone blocks. There are monuments around the world that contain stone components of such incredible

• 2:17:58AJ Gentile?

  size that they make the pyramids look tiny, but their construction remains a mystery. Let's look at a few more. The Temple of Jupiter at Baalbek, Lebanon, contains the three largest stone blocks ever used in a man-made structure. Each block is estimated to weigh as much as 1,000 tons. Now, no industrial equipment in existence today could lift one, no super crane, and certainly no number of people, yet somehow they are positioned together so precisely that a sheet of paper can't fit between them. Now, nearby is an even bigger stone. It's known as Hajar al-Hibbla, and it's the largest piece of stone ever cut by humans. It weighs 12 100 tons. It's estimated it would take 16,000 men to even budget,

• 2:18:43AJ Gentile?

  and it would be a huge challenge of modern technology to just create it. Yet, there it is. How did they do it? Nobody really knows. Let's go to the other side of the planet. On a remote plateau in Bolivia, 12,000 feet above sea level, there's a monument called Puerta del Sol, or Gate of the Sun. This elaborately carved megalith is a single piece of stone that weighs 10 tons. Cool. Well, how did it end up almost 4 kilometers up a mountain? And some scientists think that it may not be in its original location. And if that's so, where did it come from? Here's another. Nan Madal is an archaeological site on the island of Pompeii in Micronesia, and it's been called the Machu Picchu of the Pacific. It's the only ancient city ever built upon a coral reef.

• 2:19:27AJ Gentile?

  And the engineering of Nan Madal is so complex, nobody can figure out how it was built. The lost city dates back to around 200 B.C., and it's made up of hundreds of stacked stone logs, each about 3 meters long and about a meter in diameter. The logs, which are stacked kind of like firewood, create walls that are 40 feet high and 18 feet thick. That's taller than a three-story building, yet each stone log weighs about 2 and 1/2 tons. And the logs that make up the high walls, they weigh as much as 50 tons each. How they were moved and lifted into position is absolutely baffling. The locals didn't have pulleys, they didn't have levers, they didn't even have access to metal. This is Stone Age technology, so how did they do it?

• 2:20:12AJ Gentile?

  Well, the locals tell stories about giants who flew great canoes in the sky.

• 2:20:17Speaker 02

  Aliens.

• 2:20:18AJ Gentile?

  And those aliens, I mean giants,

• 2:20:20Speaker 02

  Yee-haw!

• 2:20:22AJ Gentile?

  used some kind of magic to levitate the logs into place. Now, these are structures from very different and diverse cultures from all over the world. What was their secret? Well, these societies are so old that there is no record of how these structures were constructed. But in almost every culture where megaliths exist, a legend also exists that the huge stones were moved by sound, either by striking with a rod to produce acoustic resonance, or by instruments, or by simply chanting stones into position. Let's see how that works.

• 2:20:53AJ Gentile?

  For centuries, travelers from the Far East told tales of acoustic levitation. Some claim to have encountered mystics who possessed the ability to levitate themselves and objects using sound. One famous story comes from a medical doctor named Dr. Y'all. He'd been brought to a remote area of Tibet in 1939 to treat a Buddhist holy man suffering from an unknown illness. After spending some time with the monks, Dr. Y'all eventually gained their confidence, and to show their appreciation, they performed a demonstration of sonic levitation that left the good doctor astounded. They took him to a meadow that was surrounded by high cliffs, and in the middle of the clearing, about 250 meters from a cliff, was a heavy slab of stone.

• 2:21:33AJ Gentile?

  Then the monks arranged 19 musical instruments, 13 drums and 6 trumpets, in a 90-degree arc around the stone and started playing. The other monks began singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo. During the first 4 minutes, nothing happened. Then as the speed of the drumming and the noise increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway and suddenly took off into the air and continued to rise until it landed on a hilltop about 250 meters above the ground. This demonstration was repeated multiple times for Dr. Y'all, who actually took film footage of this.

• 2:22:09Speaker 02

  What? Where's the film?

• 2:22:11AJ Gentile?

  Oh, that's confiscated and classified.

• 2:22:13Speaker 02

  Well, that's a piece of bullshit.

• 2:22:15AJ Gentile?

  I know. I actually found a paper that explains scientifically how this levitation might have actually worked. Link below, and if you're into geometry and geodetics, you're gonna love it.

• 2:22:25Speaker 02

  Sound's moving. You see what I did there?

• 2:22:31AJ Gentile?

  Another creation credited with acoustic levitation is the Coral Castle located in Florida. The Coral Castle is a sprawling stone compound built by Edward Leedskalln in between the years 1923 and 1951. The complex is constructed of nearly 1,000 tons of rock, which Leedskalln somehow cut, shaped, lifted, and maneuvered into place, all by himself. Just him. FYI, he was 5 foot tall and weighed 100 pounds.

• 2:22:59Speaker 02

  It's mine!

• 2:23:02AJ Gentile?

  I ruined the moment, didn't I? Lee Scalden refused to allow visitors or observers on site while he was working, so there are no eyewitness accounts detailing his construction methods. Yet, alone, working mostly at night, he was somehow able to cut and transport 1,000 tons of rock to use for walls and towers. He also built all kinds of buildings and sculptures, all from giant pieces of stone. An obelisk he raised weighs 28 tons, and the largest rock on the property weighs an estimated 35 tons. Now, some of these stones are twice the weight of the largest blocks in the Great Pyramid of Giza. All this he did alone and without heavy machinery. The most amazing thing to me is the stone gate.

• 2:23:43AJ Gentile?

  It weighs nine tons and has about a quarter inch of clearance inside the frame. It's so well-balanced that you could push it open with a single finger. This is something that would be challenging for even the most experienced engineering and construction team, yet somehow Lee Scalden was able to do it alone.

• 2:24:00Speaker 02

  Oh, this guy definitely was in union.

• 2:24:02AJ Gentile?

  Nope. Lee Scalden never specifically identified sound as a key factor in his work, but he had an interest in radio and owned all kinds of sound equipment which he used for unknown purposes. Now, no one ever saw him lift enormous objects, though the story goes that spying teenagers saw him float coral blocks through the air like hydrogen balloons.

• 2:24:23Speaker 02

  I love this guy.

• 2:24:24AJ Gentile?

  I do, too.

• 2:24:25Speaker 02

  I have discovered the secrets of the pyramids, and he has found out how the Egyptians and the ancient builders in Peru, Yucatan, and Asia with only primitive tools, raised and set in place blocks of stone weighing many tons.

• 2:24:41AJ Gentile?

  He told friends ancient masters had developed a method for overcoming the force of gravity, and that as a practicing Freemason, he was exposed to this knowledge through his contacts in that secret organization.

• 2:24:52Speaker 02

  This guy built an Illuminati sandcastle with magnets?

• 2:24:56AJ Gentile?

  He might have, with magnets or sound or both. I mean, there's actual science behind some of this.

• 2:25:03AJ Gentile?

  Unless you're in a vacuum, sound is everywhere. Sound is created by vibrating molecules of a medium like air or water into waves. The waves hit our eardrums or our skull, and our brain decodes the wavelengths into sound. We don't usually think of sound as having a physical presence, but acoustic waves can absolutely affect the environment. Think of a nightclub or a concert where you could just, you could feel the bass.

• 2:25:25Speaker 02

  (mimicking bass)

• 2:25:27AJ Gentile?

  Right.

• 2:25:28Speaker 02

  (mimicking bass)

• 2:25:29AJ Gentile?

  Like that.

• 2:25:33AJ Gentile?

  Or how ultrasound is used to pulverize kidney stones. Or how singing the right note or wavelength with a sufficient volume or amplitude can shatter glass.

• 2:25:48AJ Gentile?

  There are even sound waves that can make people sick. We've got a video coming up on this, so...

• 2:25:53Speaker 02

  Hit subscribe, hit the bell, like, share!

• 2:25:57AJ Gentile?

  Don't oversell it.

• 2:25:58Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, I get excited.

• 2:26:01AJ Gentile?

  Anyway, current acoustic levitation techniques use sound traveling through media, usually gas, to counteract the force of gravity. A basic acoustic levator has two main parts. A transducer, which is really just the surface that creates the sound by vibrating, kind of like a speaker. And there's also a reflector, which helps focus the sound waves on the object you want to levitate. Now, to get this to work, there's quite a bit of math involved. For example, the distance between the transducer and the reflector must be a multiple of half of the wavelength of the sound. Now, this is because you need to get enough molecules lined up under the object in order to lift it. If you just blast sound at an object, all you're doing is scattering a bunch of molecules around. That won't work. But if we remember the story about the Tibetan monks, they were using this precise technique.

• 2:26:46AJ Gentile?

  They played specific instruments in unison, just like a transducer, focused at a specific object from a specific distance, like a reflector. I bet if we knew the actual sounds of their instruments, we'd see a correlation between the wavelengths they emitted and the distance to the stone. Now, I'm not saying the monks actually got this to work, but I am saying the science is sound.

• 2:27:08Speaker 02

  A pun?

• 2:27:10AJ Gentile?

  No, no, no.

• 2:27:12Speaker 02

  That was so terrible!

• 2:27:14AJ Gentile?

  No, I didn't mean to do that.

• 2:27:16Speaker 02

  Shame on you!

• 2:27:19AJ Gentile?

  So now that we've seen that sound can be used to move objects, is this enough evidence to prove how the pyramids were constructed? For some people, yes. For most, no. For me? I'm not really sure. Could the pyramids have been constructed using pulleys, ramps, and cranes, like mainstream Egyptologists claim? Well, sure. But when you look at the sheer size those ramps would need to be, and the distances involved, the amount of materials required to build the scaffolding would be more than the material in the actual pyramids. Much more. So where are all the construction materials? To me, there seems like there's something going on here. But we can't even talk about this without being labeled kooks. Any challenge of established scientific dogma is labeled pseudoscience.

• 2:28:03AJ Gentile?

  Isn't that a bit arrogant? I mean, isn't pseudoscience only pseudoscience until it's actual science? But people are afraid to go up against the establishment. Kepler and Copernicus were ridiculed by their peers. Louis Pasteur's research was rejected by the medical establishment. Gregor Mendel, Nikola Tesla? Initially, they were rejected. Imagine the hate they'd get if Twitter existed? But that's a long time ago. Surely, we've matured since then.

• 2:28:31Speaker 02

  Ha!

• 2:28:32AJ Gentile?

  Think about this. In 1903, when the Wright brothers and others were building airplanes, The New York Times said manned flight would not be possible for 1 to 10 million years.

• 2:28:43Speaker 02

  Oops.

• 2:28:43AJ Gentile?

  And in 1985, The New York Times said, "No matter how inexpensive or powerful a laptop computer would become, nobody would want one."

• 2:28:51Speaker 02

  No boy.

• 2:28:52AJ Gentile?

  And when Apple announced the iPhone, The Times said they'd probably never build it, and even if they did, nobody would buy it.

• 2:28:58Speaker 02

  Dang it.

• 2:28:59AJ Gentile?

  And speaking of Twitter, here's what The New York Times said when it launched.

• 2:29:02Speaker 02

  Using Twitter for literate communication is about as likely as firing up a CB radio and hearing some guy recite the Iliad. Whether the service could be made into a sustainable business, quite unknown. I'm skeptical. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Haven't they always told you, "Don't trust the media"?

• 2:29:24AJ Gentile?

  You have. If you suggest that levitating heavy objects with sound or creating free energy is even possible, you're viciously attacked. Not just by Facebook and Twitter, but by The New York freaking Times. Aren't new ideas worth exploring? Did Steve Jobs care what people thought about him? Does Elon Musk care? No, they just went out and changed the world. So my message today is not to the corporate media or social media. They make money by getting all of us to attack each other. That's their business model. It's shameful and that's why nobody trusts them. Who cares? George Bernard Shaw said, "All great truths begin as blasphemies." This message is to those blasphemers. To the recluse out there building castles with sound and magnets and his own hands.

• 2:30:09AJ Gentile?

  To the nerd in the garage tinkering with electronics because he knows in his heart there is a better way. This message is to the next Kepler, Jobs, Elon Musk. To the misfits and dreamers and visionaries. My message is to you. They are going to attack you. They are going to hate you. Ignore them. Keep dreaming. Keep building. Keep blaspheming. Because I can tell you with 100% certainty, the world needs you. Much more than it needs the New York Times.

• 2:30:41AJ Gentile?

  I think that is another episode we could probably revisit and expand on. Now that I'm allowed to do episodes longer than 18 minutes. Anyway, we're up to our last one. We made it. I'm sorry, I shouldn't be screaming because most of you are asleep. Episode 81 is next. It's about how the Great Pyramid of Giza could have been a power plant. And I know if you haven't seen the episode, that sounds farfetched. But I will explain scientifically how through chemical reactions, it absolutely could have been possible. This is a fun one.

• 2:31:27AJ Gentile?

  Nikola Tesla believed that he could harness the energy from inside the Earth and transmit that power wirelessly around the world. His early experiments were successful, but his research mysteriously vanished after his death. There is no evidence left of Tesla's wireless power technology. Or is there? For years, we were taught that the Great Pyramid of Giza was a tomb for a king. It wasn't. It had a different purpose. Tesla didn't invent wireless power. It's been here for 5,000 years and probably a lot longer than that.

• 2:32:05AJ Gentile?

  Okay, why were the pyramids built?

• 2:32:06Speaker 02

  Uh, storage for dead mummies?

• 2:32:09AJ Gentile?

  Dead mummies?

• 2:32:10Speaker 02

  Eh, it's a twatology.

• 2:32:11AJ Gentile?

  Mainstream Egyptology says that the Great Pyramid of Giza is a tomb built for Khufu, the fourth dynasty Egyptian pharaoh who ruled 4,500 years ago. But the Great Pyramid doesn't have any characteristics of other Egyptian tombs. The Great Pyramid contains no artifacts, no hieroglyphs, and no elaborate wall art. It's been argued that the granite sarcophagus found in the king's chamber once contained Khufu's mummy. There's no evidence that a mummy was ever there. No mummy has ever been found in any pyramid, ever. Ancient Egyptians considered their pharaohs gods. The Great Pyramid is a strange structure for a god. Small chambers, narrow shafts, no markings at all. The way the pyramid was built, and the materials used to build it, suggests it had a different purpose.

• 2:32:56AJ Gentile?

  The sides of the pyramid are aligned with the compass with such accuracy that only modern engineering can match it. The Great Pyramid is a mountain made of 2.5 million blocks of stone weighing 6 million tons, piled 481 feet high. Its footprint is over 13 acres. To align this construction within 1/15 of a degree of true north is impossible precision. The base of the Great Pyramid is leveled within 3/4 of an inch. The only way to do this with modern structures is to use lasers. Even though the sides of the pyramid are over 755 feet long, made of stone blocks weighing between 2 and 40 tons each, each side is within 2 inches of any other. That's 99.98% accurate.

• 2:33:39AJ Gentile?

  Fun fact: the pyramid doesn't have four sides. It actually has eight. Each side is slightly concave that you can only really see from directly above, or when the pyramid casts shadows during the equinoxes. And yes, those angles too, are perfect. Whoever built the pyramids somehow knew the size of the Earth. If you take the height of the pyramid and multiply it by 43,200, you get 3,938.685 miles, which is within 11 miles of the polar radius of the planet. That's 99.7% accurate. If you take the perimeter of the base of the pyramid and multiply that by forty-three thousand two hundred, you get twenty-four thousand seven hundred thirty-four point nine four miles.

• 2:34:21AJ Gentile?

  That's the Earth's circumference at the equator within ninety-nine point three percent accuracy. We know that the ancients were obsessed with equinoxes when the day and the night are the same lengths. The length of the day and night on an equinox is forty-three thousand two hundred seconds. Now skeptics will say this relationship between forty-three thousand two hundred and the size of the Earth is forced. They say, well, the planet is different sizes in different places, so this is just a coincidence.

• 2:34:49Speaker 02

  No, is this one of those episodes where we make the skeptics look like idiots?

• 2:34:52AJ Gentile?

  A little bit, yeah.

• 2:34:53Speaker 02

  Oh, good. I love those.

• 2:34:55AJ Gentile?

  Don't look.

• 2:34:55Speaker 02

  Oh, and the skeptics.

• 2:35:01AJ Gentile?

  Most of the Great Pyramid is constructed of nummulite limestone, the reddish-brown blocks that we see today. This rock is found close to the site and is abundant. But the builders of the pyramid also used unusual materials not found locally. The exterior of the pyramid was once covered in casing stones made of bright white limestone. They were polished smooth and fit together so tightly that no seams were visible. These casing stones were cut and shipped from a quarry in Tura, almost five hundred miles away. That's like carrying thousands of ten-ton stone blocks the length of the entire state of Florida. They must have been special. Unlike the limestone cut locally, Tura limestone lacks magnesium. This makes it an excellent insulator.

• 2:35:44AJ Gentile?

  Limestone can carry an electrical current. Tura limestone can't. Interior chambers were built with a rare type of granite called rose granite, also brought from hundreds of miles away. This granite has a high concentration of silicon dioxide, also known as quartz. When quartz is compressed or even just moved, it creates a charge called piezoelectricity. One face of the quartz will have a positive charge, the other will have a negative charge. Connect the two faces together and you have an electrical circuit. Because of this property, quartz is used in all kinds of modern devices like watches, clocks, TVs, GPS units, and on and on. To charge a watch that uses quartz... All you have to do is shake it. And if you've ever used a barbecue lighter, the voltage is created by a quartz crystal.

• 2:36:28AJ Gentile?

  The king and queen's chambers were built with granite that is 85% quartz. The tunnels and passageways are also lined with quartz-rich granite. If pressure was applied to all this granite, it would generate a tremendous amount of electricity, turning the pyramid into a giant power plant. And there's proof that this is exactly what happened.

• 2:36:51AJ Gentile?

  The idea that the Great Pyramid was a power plant is not new. It was first proposed in the 1970s. It was and is considered a fringe theory.

• 2:37:00Speaker 02

  Ooh, those are my favorite kind of theories.

• 2:37:02AJ Gentile?

  I know.

• 2:37:03Speaker 02

  The fringer, the better. The fringier, fringer. Now, that doesn't sound right. Um, what's your problem?

• 2:37:10AJ Gentile?

  Oh, I'm sorry. Is the show interrupting your train of thought?

• 2:37:13Speaker 02

  Sarcasm, nice.

• 2:37:15AJ Gentile?

  But what do you expect? I'm trying to set up the show here, and it's not easy to do when you're jumping in with comments. As more and more discoveries were made over the years, more evidence emerged that the Great Pyramid as a power plant wasn't fringe science, but actual science. One of the most compelling cases comes from Christopher Dunn. He believes the process starts in the subterranean chamber. Below the pyramid are aquifers. As water moves through the underground cavities, sound waves are created. The frequency of these waves resonate with the Earth's natural vibration. As those waves move up through the pyramid, a process is used to magnify, focus, and convert the sound into energy. The queen's chamber was used for a chemical reaction that created hydrogen. And there's substantial proof of this.

• 2:37:58AJ Gentile?

  There are two interior shafts that lead to the queen's chamber. The northern shaft has traces of hydrochloric acid. The southern has traces of hydrated zinc chloride. Combining these two chemicals creates a volatile reaction that generates hydrogen, a lot of hydrogen. This hydrogen gas would flow from the queen's chamber through the horizontal passage and into the Grand Gallery. The Grand Gallery is also made of granite. As the hydrogen gas builds up, the pressure compresses the granite, creating electricity. This electricity also ionizes the air, increasing conductivity. Within the Grand Gallery were 27 or 28 pairs of resonators that would vibrate and emit sound. The hydrogen atoms would organize themselves into waves in sympathy with the sound waves

• 2:38:43AJ Gentile?

  of the gallery. These sound waves further excite the stone, creating even more electricity.

• 2:38:48Speaker 02

  Ooh, so let me get this straight. You stick the shafts into the queen's chamber, which gets the stones excited?

• 2:38:54AJ Gentile?

  Uh, that's right, but somehow when you say it, it sounds dirty.

• 2:38:57Speaker 02

  Heh, I'm a naughty, naughty fish.

• 2:38:59AJ Gentile?

  Acoustic engineers have determined the gallery resonates at 440 Hz and naturally emits in an F# chord. 440 Hz and the F# chord have been connected to a lot of woo-woo ideas, but there's a reason for that. It's considered a sound that resonates in harmony with the earth. The builders of the pyramid knew this. Longtime Mac users will recognize this sacred chord. At the top of the gallery is a small shaft leading to the king's chamber. The opening is 8.4 by 4.8 inches. This is the perfect size for hydrogen microwaves to pass into the king's chamber, which also resonates at 440 Hz and F#. Above the king's chamber are five layers of granite beams, stacked and separated by air gaps.

• 2:39:44AJ Gentile?

  This is called the relieving chamber because it was believed that this interior structure relieved the weight of the pyramid. That's not what it does. The beams are smooth on three sides, but rough cut on the top. Christopher Dunn believes the reason for the rough cut is, this is how the beams were tuned. The builders could vibrate the granite beams and slowly chip away at the stone until they resonated with an F# chord, which they do. The king's chamber is what's known as a Helmholtz resonator. When you blow air across the top of a bottle and create sound, that's a Helmholtz resonator. Change the volume of liquid in the bottle, or change the volume of stone within the chamber, you change the pitch. The entire complex is a giant musical instrument.

• 2:40:28AJ Gentile?

  Now, some skeptics reluctantly agree that the Great Pyramid has musical properties, but for skeptics to consider the pyramid as a power plant, they would need evidence to show that a giant stone pyramid would respond to electromagnetic energy. There was no evidence of that until 2018.

• 2:40:47AJ Gentile?

  Whether true or not, it's scientifically possible that the Great Pyramid was a structure for creating, harnessing, and focusing energy. The exterior was made of material that insulates electricity. The interior was made of material that conducts electricity. The chambers were made of material that creates electricity. The next piece of evidence is the pyramid's ability to focus EM energy. In 2018, scientists used radio waves at different frequencies to see if the Great Pyramid would interact with electromagnetic waves of a resonant length. Their experiments proved that in a resonant state, the pyramid can concentrate electromagnetic energy in the internal chambers as well as under its base. Resonance in the pyramid can be induced by radio waves with the lengths ranging from

• 2:41:32AJ Gentile?

  200 to 600 meters. The closer to 200 meters, the more dramatic the effect. A year after that, in 2019, Eric Wilson published a paper called "A Large-Scale Thermal Acoustic Generator." The paper describes how, when granite and other rocks are vibrated, electrons will migrate through the rock and up to the surface. By combining science and music, the builders of the pyramid created a power-generating machine tuned to the natural harmonic of the Earth's vibration. Vibration that primarily comes from the tidal energy created by the moon's gravity. This technology, created thousands of years ago, could generate unlimited clean energy. But how did they get the energy out? That brings us back to Tesla.

• 2:42:15AJ Gentile?

  His Wardencliff Tower was built on top of an aquifer, with copper and iron rods extending down into the water. When electricity was sent into the tower, it was to be transmitted around the world through the atmosphere. The pyramid is also built on an aquifer, and copper pipes and iron rods have recently been discovered there. If the capstone was made of gold, the energy concentrated inside the pyramid would have been drawn to the top and transmitted to the atmosphere. Tesla's wireless power distribution system used the resonance of the Earth, just like the pyramid. And just like the pyramid, the energy generated by Tesla's tower would be unlimited, clean, and virtually free for everyone on the planet. But Tesla's tower was destroyed by outside forces.

• 2:43:00AJ Gentile?

  There's evidence that the Great Pyramid was destroyed from within.

• 2:43:06AJ Gentile?

  In the year 1900 Nikola Tesla convinced JP Morgan to fund a project to create a wireless communication system. When Tesla received the funding, he decided to scale up the project. Rather than transmit messages around the world, he would transmit power. Tesla had already demonstrated that wireless power would work on a small scale. He famously had light bulbs scattered on the ground that would illuminate when a Tesla coil was activated nearby. Now, he wanted to go bigger. He explained this world-changing technology to JP Morgan and asked him for more money to complete the project. Rather than support Tesla, Morgan pulled his funding, claiming breach of contract. JP Morgan owned General Electric, which would

• 2:43:50AJ Gentile?

  be made obsolete. He owned AT&T, which would also become obsolete. JP Morgan owned copper mines all over the world, and his factories generated miles of copper wire. JP Morgan owned rubber farms and factories that created insulation for wire. He owned steel companies and factories that built power generators. He owned timber mills that created telegraph and electricity poles. He owned coal mines that fueled existing power plants, and he owned two dozen railroads that transported all these resources around the country. None of this would be necessary if Tesla created free, unlimited wireless power. For several years, Tesla wrote JP Morgan almost every month, begging him to reconsider. He wouldn't.

• 2:44:33AJ Gentile?

  Instead, JP Morgan chose to finance Tesla's competitors, Edison and Marconi, who were improving on and getting rich from Tesla's inventions. And not only did JP Morgan refuse any further investment, but he also put out word to everyone in the wealthy investor class that Tesla should be avoided. He was essentially blacklisted. By 1915, Tesla had accumulated so much debt that the bank foreclosed on the Wardenclyffe property. The tower was demolished in 1917 and sold for scrap. The project was never completed. Tesla was a genius, but he was at a disadvantage. Men like Edison and Marconi knew how to bring Tesla's inventions to market. They knew how to make technology accessible, and most of

• 2:45:16AJ Gentile?

  all, they knew how to play the game. You don't bite the hand that feeds you. That's why 84% of the world's energy is created from fossil fuels. It's also why Tesla died alone and broke.

• 2:45:31AJ Gentile?

  It's possible that the Great Pyramid suffered some catastrophic event that caused it to stop working. In addition to hydrochloric acid, there are traces of sulfuric acid in the southern shaft. In the northern shaft, there's zinc chloride and ammonium chloride. These chemicals can create hydrogen without being mixed, but if you do combine ammonium chloride with sulfuric acid, you get more than a reaction, you get an explosion. Because of the structure of the pyramid, this explosion could be controlled, but there's evidence that an uncontrolled explosion may have occurred. In 2001, in the Grand Gallery, scorch marks were discovered in the ceiling above where the resonators would have been. In the King's Chamber, cracks have been found in the granite beams.

• 2:46:14AJ Gentile?

  At first, this was thought to be caused by an earthquake, but the damage was only found in areas of the pyramid where the flow of highly compressed, heated hydrogen occurred. The walls in the King's Chamber have been pushed out over an inch. It takes a lot of pressure to push tons of granite out that far. The Great Step outside the King's Chamber also shows extensive damage like that from an explosion, not an earthquake. Other parts of the interior also show signs of charring. When the southern shaft was discovered, it was coated with salt about an inch thick. This would happen if hydrogen was boiling and bubbling up the shaft. What caused the pyramid power plant to explode is not known, but Christopher Dunn believes

• 2:46:55AJ Gentile?

  it was some sort of cataclysm, not an earthquake, but maybe an asteroid impact. There's a problem with this theory, though. The ancient Egyptians kept meticulous records of everything. There is no record of an impact during this time. Dunn believes it happened thousands of years earlier. And that brings me to this thought. Skeptics will say if the ancient Egyptians used electricity, there would be documentation, even hard evidence of it. You'll see true believers point to glyphs that look like light bulbs, but I honestly think that's a stretch. There's no evidence the Egyptians worked with glass or any components used to make a light bulb, so why is there no evidence of the use of electricity in ancient Egypt? And no record of electricity being generated by the Great Pyramid?

• 2:47:39AJ Gentile?

  Well, because the ancient Egyptians didn't build it.

• 2:47:44AJ Gentile?

  There really is no debate by mainstream academics about the who, when, why, or how of the Great Pyramid. It was built by ancient Egyptians in 4,500 B.C. as a tomb for Khufu, and that's that. But what if none of that is true? What if the ancient Egyptians didn't build the pyramid, but found it? And when they found it, it had been dormant for years, maybe thousands of years. Graham Hancock is a proponent of the Orion constellation theory. This says the Great Pyramid complex is almost a perfect match for the stars in the Orion constellation. But they don't line up to where Orion is today. They line up with where Orion was in the sky 13,500 years ago. We've discussed how the builders were obsessed with equinoxes.

• 2:48:28AJ Gentile?

  The Sphinx faces due east, and on the vertical equinox, the constellation that rose due east 13,500 years ago was Leo. Now, I'll concede the astronomical evidence could be a coincidence, but there is hard evidence that these structures are older than originally thought. You can't carbon date limestone. But there are clues that the pyramid and the Sphinx have been there for a long, long time. Robert Schock from Boston University believes the Sphinx and Giza complex is about 13,500 years old. Giza has been an extremely dry climate since the time of the pharaohs, but the Sphinx shows signs not only of wind and sand erosion, but also extreme water erosion.

• 2:49:10AJ Gentile?

  The erosion patterns around the base of the Sphinx could only occur if huge volumes of water are washing over the plateau at violent speeds. There's evidence this happened at the end of the Younger Dryas, which marked the end of the last ice age in 9,700 B.C. Glaciers were thought to have melted rapidly. Within a few centuries, sea levels rose 500 feet. This is fast and geologic time. But as more evidence was gathered, melting appeared to happen in a matter of decades. This would cause dramatic changes in the Earth's climate. But when recent ice core samples were studied, things got even more dramatic. There's evidence that the last ice age didn't end over centuries or decades, but ended in one, single, day.

• 2:49:58AJ Gentile?

  Some claim that an asteroid impact caused the last Ice Age to end. A worldwide disaster like the Chickshulum impact that wiped out the dinosaurs. That's not what happened. An impact causes cooling. Recent studies show that there was a major solar event that happened around 9700 B.C. Basically, the mother of all CMEs. A violent plasma storm hit the Earth and overwhelmed the Earth's magnetosphere, which is our defense against solar radiation. Without the protection of the magnetosphere, massive lightning strikes happened all over the Earth. Lightning that was orders of magnitude more intense than anything we've ever seen. This lightning was hundreds or even thousands of times more powerful than anything from a thunderstorm.

• 2:50:42AJ Gentile?

  There's evidence in over 120 countries of rock melted and turned to glass during this event. This is called vitrification. There's evidence of vitrification in moon rocks. We know for a fact, large mammals like saber-toothed tigers and woolly mammoths were wiped out at this time. They didn't slowly go extinct. They instantly went extinct. During the four or five days of this event, the Earth was also awash in lethal radiation. Only animals that can go underground survived. Most of the human race died during this event. Only humans living near caves were able to find shelter and survive. If glaciers, which covered 30% of the Earth's surface, melted in a day or two, think of

• 2:51:24AJ Gentile?

  the speed, volume, and pressure of water that would rush across the Earth's surface. This water would act like a power washer on stone constructions like the Sphinx and pyramids. Meanwhile, a sky full of plasma and lightning and radiation would have severely damaged the Great Pyramid if it was using a volatile chemical reaction to create power. Every culture has a flood myth that served as a reset of civilization. All those stories seem to point to a cataclysm at the end of the Younger Dryas. Myths of lost continents like Atlantis also fit into this timeline. Now, I'm not claiming anything I've said today is what happened, but I am saying there's evidence that it was possible that an advanced civilization existed thousands of years ago.

• 2:52:07AJ Gentile?

  That civilization had the technology to create unlimited clean energy. Then the glaciers melted, a great flood came. Solar plasma and radiation destroyed a significant amount of life on the planet. The civilization then disappeared. Then thousands of years later, as the great Egyptian culture was forming, they would have utilized the pyramid, not for power but for ceremonial or religious purposes. They would have altered the Sphinx, carving away the original design and replacing it with a design of their own. And we know this is what they did. Mainstream scientists are still not convinced, and that's okay. As time goes on and more secrets are revealed, sooner or later, we will learn the truth.

• 2:52:48AJ Gentile?

  And I suspect we'll learn that the pyramid power plant theory was right all along.

• 2:52:56AJ Gentile?

  Whoever built the pyramids created energy that wasn't harmful to the earth, but resonated in harmony with it. A suspicious person might wonder why, if this theory has been around for 50 years, nobody's tried to replicate it, even on a small scale. Unlimited clean energy for everyone on earth sounds like a way for the entire human race to take a huge step forward. Think of the technological advances that could be made if electricity was free. Think of the political strife, economic instability, and the endless wars that could be avoided. But maybe what's happening now is what happened to Tesla 100 years ago. In Tesla's time, nobody was interested in creating technology that would make power free for everyone.

• 2:53:37AJ Gentile?

  Empires owned by JP Morgan, the Vanderbilts, and the Rockefellers would have been devastated. The Carnegie's, the DuPont's, and the Mellon's all would have seen significant losses. These families owned all the energy production and distribution in the United States. Their companies were the lifeblood of American industry. The families were American royalty. If Tesla was able to achieve his vision, not only would the wealth of these families be diminished, so would America's standing in the world as a great new industrial power. Tesla said he wanted to bring abundant electrical energy to remote, underdeveloped parts of the world, to foster closer communication between nations. This couldn't be a ...allowed to happen. America and the corporations that controlled it would never have given up their advantage.

• 2:54:22AJ Gentile?

  They still won't. When Tesla died, the FBI and agents of the OSS were, for some reason, close by. Tesla's documents were stored in 80 boxes, all organized and numbered by Tesla himself. Only 60 boxes were discovered. And since then, a few scientists have stated that Tesla's invention would have never worked. But that's what scientists said of most of his inventions. Viewers of this channel know that most science is bought and paid for by corporations and governments. This is especially true in the last couple of years.

• 2:54:54Speaker 02

  Get the jab.

• 2:54:55AJ Gentile?

  Right.

• 2:54:56Speaker 02

  Another jab, another jab, another.

• 2:54:58AJ Gentile?

  Yep.

• 2:54:58Speaker 02

  What do those jabs work or not? You human pincushions are making people rich.

• 2:55:03AJ Gentile?

  Oh, there's no doubt about that. Eighty percent of the products we use today can be traced back to Tesla. But the technology that we really need, now more than ever, is inexpensive, clean energy. Sadly, that technology died with Tesla. Instead, the world went in the direction of coal and oil. And nations fought and continue to fight wars to control these limited resources. Oil, coal, and war may be terrible for the planet and the people who live on it, but they're great for business. And for all his genius, that's something Nikola Tesla never understood.

• 2:55:41AJ Gentile?

  Thanks so much for hanging out today. My name is AJ. There's Hecklefish.

• 2:55:45Speaker 02

  Now, motherfucking hey.

• 2:55:46AJ Gentile?

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• 2:58:14AJ Gentile?

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• 2:58:54Speaker 06

  I played for Libya in Area 51. A secret code inside the Bible said I was.

• 2:59:04Speaker 06

  I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music. So I'm singing like I should.

• 2:59:13Speaker 06

  But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends. And it never ends. No, it never ends.

• 2:59:32Speaker 06

  I feared the crackhead and got stuck inside Mel's home with NK-12. I'm being only too aware. Did Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set? Were the shadows before there?

• 2:59:51Speaker 06

  The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man, I'm told. And his name was Cold. And I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish. Head to fish on Thursday nights with A.J. And what about my feet all through the night? All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth. And what about my feet all through the night?

• 3:00:38Speaker 06

  The Mothman sightings and the solar storms still come To have got the secret city underground. Mysterious number stations, planets circle to Project Stargate And what the Dark Watchers found. In a simulation, don't you worry though. The Black Knight said a lie he told to me.

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