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1:12 David Pierce? Welcome to The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of 25-year-old startup sounds. I'm your friend David Pierce and I am coming to you from the Salt Lake City Airport on my way home from WWDC, Apple's annual developer conference. It's been quite a week. You may have already heard our podcast episode about the Vision Pro, Apple's brand-new headset, and we have lots more to come on Friday's episode this week. But for this episode, I wanted to bring you something a little different, a little special. So, we were hanging out with our friends over at the Waveform Podcast. If you don't listen, it's a great show. If you like this show, you'll probably like Waveform. We decided we were just going to get in a studio and play a game together. So that's what we did. We spent 30 minutes in a studio at Apple Park doing trivia. It's tech trivia, it's weird trivia. A lot of it has to do with Craig Federighi.
1:57 David Pierce? We had a blast and I think you'll have fun listening to it. It was on The Vergecast side, it was Dan Seifert, Neelai Patel, and me, David Pierce, and we had the whole Waveform team in there helping us out. So, producers, Adam Malina and Ellis Rovin ran the show for us and it was Marques Brownlee, Andrew Manganelli and David Imel on their team. I won't spoil who won, but we had a really good time and I think you'll enjoy listening to us. What I really want to know, before we get started here, is the craziest thing you think we got wrong. We missed a lot of stuff. It had been a long week. Everybody was tired, but I want to know, hit us up, tell us all the things that you can't believe we got right, or, you know, can't believe we got wrong. It's a super fun show. I hope you enjoy. We have more with the Waveform team on the Vergecast
2:39 David Pierce? episode that published this Wednesday and we're gonna have lots more on WWDC also coming on Friday. Stick around for all of that. Enjoy the show.
2:50 Speaker 03 All right, welcome. This is Verge and Waveform. Trivia extravaganza. You probably might not know my name if you're under Vergecast feed. I am Adam Malina, the producer of Waveform.
3:02 Speaker 04 I'm Ellis Rovin, the other producer of Waveform.
3:05 Speaker 03 And we are going to pit the hosts of our two podcasts together today. How are you guys feeling?
3:09 Nilay Patel? Terrified.
3:11 Speaker 04 It was good and now it's bad.
3:12 Nilay Patel? They were only asking you guys. Yeah. Because they know. This idea was so much better five minutes ago.
3:18 Nilay Patel? Too late to back out.
3:19 Speaker 04 This was great.
3:19 Nilay Patel? It's really sitting next to like a hardened competitor or like market. It's like your confidence really drops.
3:23 Speaker 03 I will say he is extremely competitive. He's been plotting for weeks on this and we only found out about it like a week ago. But he knew somehow.
3:30 Speaker 04 And researching just various things. So if you've never listened to our trivia game before, we have three categories of questions for you tonight. Each category, each team will select one contestant to answer all the questions in that category. After you've figured out your answer, write it on your whiteboard, flip it around, say it aloud, and we'll award you points or not. How are we feeling? Ready to go? I'm ready.
3:53 Speaker 03 Let's do it.
3:54 Speaker 04 All right, with that, let's kick off some trivia.
3:58 Speaker 03 Oh my god, trivia.
3:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, dude, let's go.
4:01 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
4:01 Speaker 04 All right. All right, the first category is? Were you paying attention? Were you paying attention? Questions about the minutia of WWDC 2023.
4:13 Speaker 03 Oh, God.
4:14 Speaker 04 Adam, would you like to ask the first question?
4:16 Speaker 03 You bet I would. All right.
4:18 David Pierce? We have to pick our fladers, right?
4:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, so you guys need to pick, who do you want to answer this question? I love the idea of this being David v David.
4:26 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
4:27 Speaker 03 Let's do it.
4:27 Nilay Patel? We're allowed to confer, right?
4:29 Speaker 03 Yes.
4:30 Nilay Patel? All right.
4:30 Speaker 04 They can't stop us.
4:31 Speaker 03 Wait, David, were you paying attention? I think so.
4:34 David Pierce? Okay. I was live blogging, which means I was not, like, brain like water, just everything came out into my fingers and immediately left my brain.
4:41 Speaker 03 We were all live blogging.
4:42 David Pierce? I know.
4:43 Speaker 03 David v David, who will be the best David? All right, first question. How does the new compass app show waypoint altitude to users? Write it down, flip them.
4:53 Speaker 04 Why is he writing already?
4:55 Nilay Patel? What's going on over there?
4:57 Speaker 04 I mean, I don't know if this is correct, but I have an idea.
4:59 David Pierce? I don't understand.
5:00 Speaker 04 All right, I'm gonna give you, oh, you don't understand the question. That sounds like a you problem, but just in case, I will enlighten you.
5:07 David Pierce? Hit me with it one more time.
5:08 Speaker 04 The new compass app on the watch now displays the altitude of your waypoints. How does it visually express that altitude to the user?
5:17 David Pierce? I see. I like that, David.
5:19 Speaker 04 Five.
5:19 Speaker 03 I'm correct.
5:20 Speaker 04 It's lying.
5:21 Speaker 03 You guys should have had this done a long time ago.
5:23 Speaker 04 One, let's flip.
5:26 David Pierce? Pop-up bubbles.
5:27 Speaker 03 3D space.
5:28 Nilay Patel? Those are technically the same answer.
5:30 Speaker 04 I'll give it to you.
5:31 David Pierce? We'll say correct, so you each get one for both of us.
5:33 Speaker 04 Both?
5:33 David Pierce? That feels right.
5:35 Speaker 04 The answer we had written down was the height of the stalk, but both of those seem to, uh, seem to match.
5:41 Speaker 03 What? What does that even mean?
5:43 Speaker 04 Oh, so it's one of those games?
5:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:45 Nilay Patel? All right.
5:45 Speaker 03 Cool.
5:46 Speaker 04 Now I know what I'm playing. All right, all right, all right, folks, settle down, settle down, this is my game, this is my game.
5:51 David Pierce? All right, let's go.
5:52 Speaker 04 All right, ready? Craig mentioned a new machine learning function coming to the home screen of iPadOS. What was it?
6:01 Speaker 03 They're staring blankly at each other.
6:03 Nilay Patel? I'm trying to communicate with my eyes.
6:05 Speaker 04 Let's see it, guys.
6:06 Speaker 06 Multiple timers.
6:07 Nilay Patel? Multiple timers?
6:09 Speaker 03 It's suggested apps in the spotlight search.
6:12 Speaker 04 Oh, is that on the home screen? That might be an acceptable answer.
6:15 Nilay Patel? Yes. Side of the stock, baby.
6:17 Speaker 04 The answer we were looking for was frame interpolation on live photos.
6:21 Nilay Patel? Oh, wait, that's the one where he was like, Earth looks amazing at this scale. And he was holding an 11-inch iPad.
6:27 Speaker 06 How did they get that right, then?
6:28 Speaker 04 Because I believe that is machine learning to do the smart stacks. Unless it's not on the home screen.
6:33 Speaker 06 I would not.
6:33 Nilay Patel? I don't think I should have gotten that.
6:35 Speaker 04 All right, we're taking the point away from you.
6:37 Nilay Patel? Because I got it.
6:37 Speaker 04 You already said it.
6:38 Nilay Patel? Give me the point.
6:39 Speaker 06 I don't think that's machine learning. That's a Markov chain of best.
6:42 Speaker 03 All right, so we'll take it back. Next question. What was the color of the first 15-inch MacBook Air that they showed in the presentation? The first one, when they announced it.
6:52 Speaker 04 And this is again, is the 15-inch MacBook Air.
6:55 Speaker 03 Five.
6:56 Nilay Patel? Dan is very confidently whispering.
6:57 Speaker 03 Three, two, one. Flip 'em and read, boys. What do you got?
7:02 Speaker 06 I put black.
7:03 Speaker 07 Starlight.
7:04 Speaker 03 Read them one at a time, please.
7:05 Speaker 06 Black.
7:07 Nilay Patel? That's not even a color.
7:08 Speaker 06 I said it like 20 times right next to it.
7:10 Speaker 07 My answer was starlight.
7:11 Speaker 04 That is correct.
7:12 Nilay Patel? Yeah, that's wrong anyways. All right. Black is a hardcore answer. There are four possible answers, and you picked a fifth.
7:20 Speaker 08 I would like to point out that there are zero Apple products named black.
7:25 Speaker 07 Yes, space gray.
7:26 Speaker 06 I really didn't pay that much attention.
7:27 Speaker 04 Were you?
7:28 Speaker 06 That's what they answered me.
7:29 Speaker 07 I was saying midnight.
7:31 Nilay Patel? So you're saying the wrong answer.
7:32 Speaker 07 I was wrong, but at least it was an answer.
7:34 Nilay Patel? At least it was in the circle.
7:36 Speaker 06 I would have get, anyway, whatever. It probably was starlight, and then I was, I don't know. It doesn't matter.
7:40 Speaker 04 All right, continue. During WWDC 2023, what made Craig exclaim, "We truly live in a world of wonders"?
7:49 Nilay Patel? Wow, Dan's on it.
7:51 Speaker 03 Five, four, three, two.
7:55 Speaker 07 Our timer.
7:55 Nilay Patel? That was a good question.
7:56 Speaker 04 Flip 'em and read.
7:57 Speaker 06 Multiple timers.
7:58 Speaker 04 Wave, David?
8:00 Speaker 06 Yeah, multiple timers.
8:01 Speaker 04 Okay.
8:01 Speaker 07 Multiple timers.
8:02 Speaker 06 Wave Dave.
8:02 Speaker 04 Wave Dave.
8:03 Speaker 07 Good job.
8:04 Speaker 03 Okay, next question. In the intro, where there is a man chasing the bubble, what were the final words that appeared on the screen?
8:11 Nilay Patel? Oh, shit, a bubble.
8:12 Speaker 03 Dream it. Dream it, chase it, blank.
8:18 Speaker 03 What were those last words?
8:19 Speaker 07 I thought that was gonna be multiple choice.
8:21 Speaker 03 Five, four, three, two, one. Flip 'em and read. Wave, David, what do you got?
8:30 Speaker 06 The says. Make it happen? Wow. I believed Marquez for that one. Yeah! Oh my gosh. That's a level of paying attention.
8:39 Speaker 04 You're not gonna like coming through.
8:40 Nilay Patel? Well, I just thought, I thought it was so funny that it stuck in the mind.
8:44 Speaker 06 We still have three, uh, categories left.
8:47 Speaker 03 Are we looking for an easier question or a harder question?
8:49 Nilay Patel? Easier.
8:50 Speaker 03 Easier.
8:51 Speaker 06 Yeah, okay, easier.
8:54 Speaker 04 He's got a lot of confidence in his team over there.
8:56 Nilay Patel? Do I get a point for that?
8:57 Speaker 03 How many Pro Display XDRs can the new Mac Studio support?
9:02 Nilay Patel? All right, I've never seen Marquez lean over faster in my entire life.
9:05 Speaker 03 Right?
9:06 Nilay Patel? Yes.
9:06 Speaker 03 Everyone on Twitter was asking, who is gonna use as many XDRs? And I was like, Marquez.
9:12 Speaker 06 Studio or Pro?
9:13 Speaker 03 Pro Display XDRs, please.
9:15 Speaker 06 Can the Mac Studio?
9:16 Speaker 03 Oh yes, the Mac Studio, that is correct. Five, four, three, two, one. Flip 'em and read. Wave, David, what do you got?
9:25 Speaker 06 Six.
9:25 Nilay Patel? What is that number?
9:27 Speaker 06 Okay.
9:28 Nilay Patel? What? I said six.
9:29 Speaker 06 It was an eight. I also said six, just in editing.
9:32 Speaker 03 Two correct answers from the Davids.
9:34 Speaker 06 Was it 10 million?
9:35 Nilay Patel? It's gonna be a new shirt. Can we dock off like a quarter point for not being able to write a six?
9:40 Speaker 07 If we tie at the end, we lose for that six.
9:43 Speaker 06 You turned an eight into a six because the Mac Pro does eight. And we knew that. When I draw with my hands, my hands cramp up and some, I just kinda, oh my god. It just kinda goes all over.
9:53 Speaker 03 Quick update on the score. Vergecast 5, waveform 3.
9:58 Nilay Patel? That's right.
9:58 Speaker 03 I'm sorry.
9:59 Speaker 06 We need to make more time, yeah.
10:01 Speaker 03 Next question. Apple added advanced metrics and features for two sports on the Apple Watch with their own slides. What were they?
10:09 Nilay Patel? Wait.
10:10 Speaker 03 Clarification?
10:11 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
10:11 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:12 Nilay Patel? Were they native apps or third-party apps?
10:13 Speaker 03 Native apps.
10:15 Speaker 04 Excellent question.
10:16 Speaker 03 Five, four, three, two, one. Flip him and read. Let's go verge David first this time. What do you got?
10:24 Speaker 06 Hiking and cycling.
10:26 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:27 Speaker 04 Is hiking a sport?
10:29 Speaker 03 I don't know, but that's what they had it as.
10:30 Speaker 06 If you do it hard enough.
10:32 Speaker 03 Bad take, Andrew. David, what'd you say?
10:34 Speaker 06 I had a different answer. I said cycling and hiking.
10:38 Speaker 03 Ooh.
10:39 Speaker 04 Good.
10:39 Speaker 03 Good one.
10:40 Speaker 04 This is the last question of this round, and I'm gonna hit you guys with a doozy.
10:45 Speaker 03 David, I just want you to know, I think we're both doing a really good job. I'm really proud of both of us.
10:48 Speaker 04 What is going on here? That David's doing way better.
10:50 Speaker 06 He's trying to trick you into getting this wrong.
10:51 Speaker 04 You do sportsmanship at the end.
10:53 Speaker 06 But is he doing real sportsmanship, or just fucking me up because he is already doing better than me?
10:57 Speaker 04 What studio monitors were in the background of the opening shot of the opening cinematic of WWDC 23? I will accept a model number or a brand.
11:09 Speaker 03 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
11:10 Speaker 04 Wow, wow. Were you paying attention?
11:13 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
11:15 Speaker 06 I remember that one.
11:15 Speaker 03 Five, four, three, two, one. Flip him and read. Wave, David, what do you got?
11:23 Speaker 06 Are you writing right now? Yeah. Okay.
11:27 Speaker 04 David, I'm waiting for an answer.
11:29 Speaker 06 For you, that's okay. Uh, Genelik. What?
11:32 Nilay Patel? Oh wait, no, we changed our answer.
11:35 Speaker 04 verge David?
11:36 Speaker 06 My answer is the ones Marquez has.
11:38 Speaker 04 Uh, no.
11:40 Speaker 06 No.
11:40 Speaker 04 The correct answer was K R K Rockets.
11:43 Speaker 03 Were they really?
11:44 Speaker 04 They were.
11:44 Speaker 06 Wow, they exactly, oh, that's very old.
11:46 Speaker 04 They can be noticed by their distinctive yellow circles. All right, the second category for today's show is?
11:54 Speaker 08 G Fuel flavors.
11:57 Speaker 04 That's right. We are going to read you a G Fuel flavor, and you have to tell me if it is a real flavor, or if I made it up in my hotel room last night.
12:05 Nilay Patel? I don't like that you're so confident about being ready for this.
12:09 Speaker 03 Dan, me like?
12:10 Speaker 06 We already have, okay.
12:11 Nilay Patel? I mean, I'll take the counter, I don't know what G Fuel is.
12:13 Speaker 04 How did you guys make those sounds to us?
12:17 Speaker 03 Yeah, at like 11 o'clock last night, he's just recording into his microphone and showing me what he's coming up with.
12:23 Speaker 06 Ellis, can we please get a definition of G Fuel, and can I have it used in a sentence?
12:27 Speaker 04 Uh, G Fuel is a powder that becomes a liquid, or you either buy it as a liquid, and it makes you game better.
12:34 Speaker 03 That's very generic.
12:36 Speaker 06 Can I have the language of origin, please?
12:38 Speaker 04 I unfortunately cannot enlighten you with such information. Alright, the first flavor, the first flavor of G Fuel we have today is Blood, Sweat and Tears. It is a cinnamon candy flavor. Three, two, one.
12:54 Speaker 07 I trust Andrew entirely with this, because I have no idea. I got this, but I don't like knowing that I got this. I hope I got it.
13:01 Nilay Patel? Does this group consume G Fuel?
13:03 Speaker 07 No. I like making fun of G Fuel, which is why I know more about it than...
13:08 Nilay Patel? Oh, yeah, sure, okay.
13:09 Speaker 07 Yeah, no.
13:10 Nilay Patel? Got you, you gotta know you're having it.
13:11 Speaker 07 No one look at my back.
13:12 David Pierce? I'm obsessed with it ironically, yeah, I got you.
13:15 Speaker 06 Alright. Until it's not.
13:17 Speaker 04 Real or fake?
13:18 Nilay Patel? Revealing, uh...
13:19 Speaker 07 Fake.
13:20 Nilay Patel? I'm going with real.
13:21 Speaker 07 Wow.
13:22 Speaker 04 Uh, it is a real flavor.
13:24 David Pierce? Andrew, what?
13:25 Speaker 07 Oh no.
13:26 David Pierce? Oh my god.
13:27 Speaker 07 We're drinking candy.
13:28 Nilay Patel? I think Andrew is tossing the segment, so we don't know how much he likes G Fuel.
13:33 Speaker 04 Alright, the second flavor is Amnesty. Amnesty is a pina colada flavor.
13:40 Nilay Patel? That's fake, I'm sorry. If it's real, it should be fake.
13:43 Speaker 07 That can't be real. That's a, that's a good way to think of G Fuel, though. If you think it should be fake, it's probably real.
13:48 Nilay Patel? I think the entire concept of G Fuel, if it's real, should be fake. I'm ready.
13:52 Speaker 04 Two...
13:53 Speaker 07 Oh, gamer fuel.
13:54 Speaker 04 One.
13:54 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
13:56 Speaker 07 I have real.
13:57 Nilay Patel? I'm going with fake.
13:58 Speaker 04 Alright, Amnesty is a fake flavor.
14:01 David Pierce? Oh my god!
14:02 Nilay Patel? It's very obvious that gamers do not drink pina coladas. It's a good point.
14:07 Speaker 07 That's great context. They'd rather drink cinnamon candy versus a pina colada?
14:12 Speaker 06 Wow, we're getting slayed.
14:13 David Pierce? Yeah, we've been giving Andrew a lot of crap, and Dan's just over here getting all the answers right.
14:17 Speaker 07 Yeah.
14:17 David Pierce? I just want to point that out.
14:19 Speaker 04 The next flavor is Brimstone. Brimstone is a cran raspberry flavor.
14:25 Speaker 07 That sounds real.
14:26 Speaker 06 That sounds real to me.
14:26 David Pierce? Man, it feels real.
14:27 Speaker 06 But Ellis is also really good.
14:28 Speaker 07 I'm going against you guys, sorry. Write whatever you think Dan didn't write. Okay.
14:32 Speaker 04 Three, two...
14:33 Speaker 06 Pick a number.
14:34 Nilay Patel? Look at the way he's holding his card like on a plane.
14:36 Speaker 04 Flip him around.
14:37 Speaker 07 I have fake. Oh my god.
14:39 Nilay Patel? I went with real.
14:41 Speaker 06 We already lost this, we have to have five rounds.
14:44 Nilay Patel? Brimstone is exactly the sort of word that if you're targeting a teenage gamer.
14:48 Speaker 07 I think so. What was the flavor, though, again?
14:50 Speaker 06 You said fake.
14:51 Speaker 04 Brimstone was crayon raspberry. It was a real flavor.
14:54 Speaker 07 That sounds like too good of a flavor for like...
14:55 Nilay Patel? No, that is perfectly targeted at a 14-year-old boy.
14:57 Speaker 04 All right, I mean, brimstone, it sounds like something you hear in the Doom game when you beat the boss.
15:01 Speaker 07 No, I agree with that completely. I think that, I thought he was tricking us with that.
15:04 Speaker 04 The next flavor is type O, like the blood type. Type O is a passion fruit flavor.
15:11 Speaker 06 Why?
15:12 Nilay Patel? That's actually, this is the hardest one.
15:13 Speaker 04 This could go either way.
15:14 Speaker 06 I think that's fake.
15:15 Speaker 07 G Fuel Passion.
15:16 Speaker 06 I think that's fake.
15:18 Nilay Patel? I feel like...
15:18 Speaker 07 I'm at this point so I can blame you, dude.
15:20 Speaker 06 Wait, well...
15:21 Speaker 04 One. Flip. I'm going with fake. Type O is a real flavor of G Fuel. I thought it was just too on-brand.
15:30 Speaker 06 How...
15:30 Speaker 04 It's too obvious.
15:31 Nilay Patel? You can't tell this because I'm brown, but I'm like embarrassed. Like, I'm like blushing at how stupid this entire situation is.
15:38 Speaker 04 All right, the final... I feel like we're winning, please.
15:41 Speaker 06 Yeah, this is just...
15:42 Speaker 07 Why do we use this for one of the three segments?
15:45 Nilay Patel? This is so much talking about G Fuel.
15:47 Speaker 04 The final flavor of G Fuel for this round is bee sting. Bee sting is a fruity cereal with a dash of honey.
15:56 Speaker 06 I would, I think that's real.
15:59 Nilay Patel? You know, like when you're watching an embarrassing TV show and you have to leave the room? I want out of this room so badly.
16:05 Speaker 07 The next one has to be good.
16:06 Speaker 04 Is bee sting a real flavor? Flip him around. Going with fake.
16:10 Speaker 07 Fake.
16:10 Speaker 04 Bee sting is fake, but there is a flavor called scorpion sting.
16:15 Nilay Patel? Wait, so why did you go with...
16:16 Speaker 07 He said it right.
16:17 Speaker 06 He meant to do this.
16:18 Nilay Patel? There you go.
16:19 Speaker 04 My bad. Minus one point for the hosts.
16:21 Speaker 07 Nice.
16:22 Speaker 06 Let's go.
16:23 Speaker 04 I can't believe I ran that category, buddy.
16:25 Speaker 07 Great job, Dan.
16:26 Speaker 04 I never heard of G Fuel until you mentioned it. And now we've heard about it so much.
16:30 Speaker 07 A well-disguised knowledge of G Fuel over there.
16:33 Speaker 06 We kind of have to have more rounds, because otherwise we already lost.
16:36 Nilay Patel? We didn't tell you this, but Dan snorts raw G Fuel everywhere.
16:39 Speaker 04 I don't even mix it. I just line the powder up.
16:44 Speaker 04 This next round is a favorite of ours here on Waveform Trivia. It is our... Audio round.
16:51 Speaker 06 Oh, boy.
16:51 Speaker 04 It is our audio round.
16:52 Speaker 06 Oh, I love this shit.
16:53 Speaker 04 We are going to play you a famous sound, and you have to tell us its source. Uh, so as an example, if you heard... Windows XP, baby. Exactly. I would not accept Windows, but I would accept Windows XP. You do not need to be as specific as "Windows XP startup sound." Windows XP would be enough.
17:14 Nilay Patel? Oh, just like a general. Platinum Home Edition.
17:15 Speaker 04 Exactly. But if you had said Windows, that is not.
17:18 Nilay Patel? You know, you just played the Windows XP startup sound in the Apple office. Home Edition. Like the security series coming.
17:24 Speaker 04 Right, right, right. They're gonna be coming a lot today. Alright. This is Marquez versus Neely.
17:30 Speaker 07 Yeah.
17:31 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
17:31 Speaker 04 Let's do it. The first sound is...
17:34 Speaker 07 I'm gonna try. David's very upset with me.
17:36 Speaker 04 Oh, I know this one.
17:37 Nilay Patel? Oh, yeah, it's his flip. I'm not upset with you.
17:39 Speaker 07 You're upset with me.
17:40 Nilay Patel? I'm not. I wrote Netflix to Doom. I need to write bigger, is what I just learned.
17:43 Speaker 04 That is correct.
17:46 Speaker 07 I also wrote Netflix.
17:47 Speaker 04 I love it. The next sound is...
17:56 Speaker 04 Three, two, one. Marquez?
18:01 Speaker 07 Shot in the dark. Some PlayStation startup sound.
18:04 Speaker 04 Which PlayStation?
18:07 Speaker 07 Yeah, that's a wrong one.
18:10 Nilay Patel? Never mind. PS5.
18:12 Speaker 04 That was the PS3.
18:14 Nilay Patel? Well, shit.
18:14 Speaker 07 Oh, man.
18:16 Speaker 04 Alright, the next sound. Yeah, baby.
18:20 Speaker 07 Yeah, I had that.
18:21 Speaker 04 Taking me back.
18:24 Speaker 04 Taking me back.
18:25 Speaker 07 I'm pretty confident about that one. This is one of the all-time greats.
18:27 Speaker 04 Let's flip them around. Marquez, what do you got?
18:28 Speaker 07 I use Skype a lot back in the day.
18:30 Nilay Patel? Skype.
18:31 Speaker 07 Skype.
18:32 Speaker 04 Two correct answers from our audio wizard.
18:34 Nilay Patel? I think Skype still looks the best, by the way.
18:35 Speaker 07 Like the app?
18:35 Nilay Patel? That's my feeling. Yeah.
18:36 Speaker 07 I haven't used it in years, so I don't actually know. Probably better than web apps.
18:39 Speaker 04 Let's move on to our next sound.
18:41 Nilay Patel? Hard shot at Apple, inside the Apple building, again.
18:44 Speaker 07 I'm just saying.
18:46 Speaker 04 We tested out a few Apple sounds for this, but we either found they were too obvious or it was the impossible. I guess that's the beauty of Apple sound design. Up next, we have...
18:58 Speaker 07 Oh, easy.
19:04 Speaker 07 I don't know, actually.
19:05 Speaker 04 Dan is confident.
19:06 Speaker 07 I was joking, I was joking. I can see the animation when I hear it, I just don't remember if it-
19:10 Speaker 04 You can?
19:11 Speaker 07 You, you had that?
19:12 Speaker 04 Five.
19:13 Speaker 07 No, I didn't.
19:13 Speaker 04 Four.
19:14 Speaker 07 Then how do you see it?
19:15 Speaker 04 Three, two, one.
19:17 Nilay Patel? Flip him and read.
19:18 Speaker 07 I said the PS Vita.
19:20 Nilay Patel? I said Dolby Atmos.
19:22 Speaker 04 That was the Xbox Series X startup sound.
19:25 Speaker 07 I thought it might have been. Don't listen to me ever again.
19:26 Nilay Patel? What was that? You said it so confidently, you're leaning back in your chair?
19:30 Speaker 07 I thought it was Dolby Digital, I was very confused.
19:31 Speaker 04 Alright, up next.
19:32 Speaker 07 That's exactly what it was.
19:36 Nilay Patel? Oh shit. I hate this.
19:39 Speaker 07 Damn, that's a-
19:40 Nilay Patel? It's, it's in my brain.
19:41 Speaker 07 Yeah.
19:42 Speaker 04 Any guesses?
19:43 Speaker 07 I wrote Meta Quest.
19:45 Speaker 04 Sorry. Eli? You're really pushing it.
19:48 Nilay Patel? I know, I wrote PS5 this time. And it was wrong.
19:50 Speaker 04 Unfortunately, that is the Hulu startup sound. That is the sound when you load the Hulu app.
19:55 Nilay Patel? Do you know why I know this?
19:56 Speaker 07 I've never launched it in my life.
19:57 Nilay Patel? I want to admit this to you. I know this because my wife is watching the Hillsong documentary on Hulu right now, and I've heard that sound a lot, and I thought to myself,
20:03 Speaker 07 From another room.
20:04 Nilay Patel? This causes me pain. And then I immediately left to the PS5.
20:08 Speaker 04 That's so epic.
20:10 Nilay Patel? No, because when I turn on my PS5, the Apple TV fights it. So it's like, this is the sound I hear before something dumb happens.
20:16 Speaker 07 When I turn on my LG TV, the PS5 also boots up and then fights the Chromecast.
20:20 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
20:20 Speaker 07 It's weird. We're nerds. Weird. Wait, what's the score right now for this category?
20:24 Speaker 04 Adam, what's our score?
20:25 Speaker 07 We lost.
20:26 Speaker 04 Vergecast 12?
20:27 Nilay Patel? Yeah!
20:28 Speaker 04 Waveform 7.
20:29 Speaker 07 Yikes.
20:30 Speaker 04 Come on, boys, you're making us look bad.
20:31 Speaker 06 You know the G Fuel category was really just a random number generator, I don't know. It was like a hamster, like, picking stocks.
20:38 Speaker 04 Alright, this next one, we're gonna throw it back just a few years.
20:42 Nilay Patel? Alright.
20:45 Speaker 07 Oh.
20:49 Speaker 07 Yeah, throwbacks don't really-
20:50 Nilay Patel? Just confidently say some shit, Dan.
20:51 Speaker 07 Throwbacks don't hit me.
20:53 Speaker 04 I would say to you just-
20:54 Speaker 07 Play it again.
20:55 Speaker 04 Five, four, three, two, one and a half? One and three quarters?
21:02 Nilay Patel? Something completely stupid.
21:03 Speaker 04 One. Flip him and read.
21:05 Speaker 07 Mark has, what is that? My mark is crapping out, but I said PlayStation 2. I'm sorry.
21:09 Nilay Patel? I wrote Wii U. Yeah.
21:11 Speaker 04 Oof, guys, this is Windows 98, unfortunately.
21:15 Speaker 07 Oh wow.
21:15 Nilay Patel? No one used Windows 98.
21:17 Speaker 04 Throwbacks?
21:17 Nilay Patel? Everyone skipped from 95 to 2000 when they went to the NT core, come on.
21:21 Speaker 04 All hospitals everywhere disagree.
21:24 Speaker 06 Are you even a nurse?
21:25 Nilay Patel? I was in the hospital when I was 17 years old.
21:28 Speaker 07 I was barely alive.
21:29 Speaker 04 One more category or you want to keep going through the audio?
21:32 Speaker 07 One more category.
21:33 Speaker 04 One more category.
21:34 Speaker 07 Down the line with every question.
21:35 Speaker 06 Oh, yeah. I like that.
21:37 Speaker 07 Okay.
21:37 Speaker 06 Start with you guys and then we run down six questions. And how far ahead are we? Seven.
21:42 Speaker 04 Five points.
21:43 Nilay Patel? We really should stop it.
21:46 Speaker 06 You're still gonna win. All right, you're still gonna win. How many G Fuel questions are left?
21:52 Speaker 04 Zero. But the next category is... Air Force One. All questions about Craig Federighi.
22:00 Speaker 07 Oh, boy. All right.
22:01 Speaker 06 Okay.
22:02 Speaker 07 Interesting. Interesting.
22:04 Speaker 06 Okay.
22:05 Speaker 03 All right. First question. We all remember Craig's iconic slo-mo run from WWDC 2022, but what announcement was he running to?
22:15 Speaker 07 Okay.
22:16 Speaker 03 The slo-mo transition.
22:17 Speaker 07 He ran downstairs.
22:18 Speaker 03 Became a meme all over the place.
22:20 Speaker 07 He was just running straight. He was already in like a...
22:22 Speaker 06 The slo-mo transition? Oh.
22:24 Speaker 07 Was that the MacBook Air?
22:25 Speaker 04 Five.
22:27 Speaker 07 Maybe.
22:28 Speaker 04 Three.
22:29 Speaker 07 Yeah, let's go with that.
22:31 Speaker 04 One.
22:31 Speaker 06 Guess.
22:32 Speaker 04 Marquez?
22:33 Speaker 07 He was running down to M2.
22:35 Speaker 04 Oh, damn.
22:36 Nilay Patel? Yeah. All right. I've written iOS question mark.
22:39 Speaker 04 The correct answer was iPad OS.
22:41 Nilay Patel? That's what I said. It's the same thing.
22:43 Speaker 06 That's true.
22:44 Speaker 04 It is not the same thing.
22:45 Speaker 03 iOS question mark basically is iPad OS.
22:48 Speaker 07 Then you don't get credit for iOS.
22:49 Speaker 03 iOS question mark kind of is iPad OS, though. Honestly.
22:53 Speaker 06 Let the record show.
22:53 Speaker 07 PlayStation, I was right.
22:54 Speaker 06 That I whispered iPad OS into my microphone, please.
22:58 Speaker 04 The next question is...
22:59 Speaker 07 We need these points, man.
23:00 Speaker 04 Craig started working with Steve Jobs at a company that was not Apple. That company was called what?
23:07 Speaker 06 Oh, um...
23:08 Speaker 07 Jesus. I was not alive yet.
23:11 Speaker 06 Oh.
23:11 Nilay Patel? Stop burning me because I'm old. I was already 25 years old. I'd had five jobs.
23:16 Speaker 06 I think it's this, right?
23:18 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
23:19 Speaker 06 Right?
23:20 Nilay Patel? I have no idea.
23:22 Speaker 06 Four. I think we get two answers.
23:24 Speaker 04 Two.
23:24 Speaker 07 I don't... What does that say?
23:26 Speaker 04 One.
23:26 Speaker 07 Nevermind.
23:26 Speaker 04 David Pierce?
23:27 Speaker 07 I believe the company was called Next.
23:29 Speaker 04 That is correct. And that is your 13th point.
23:31 Nilay Patel? As in, this is mine.
23:32 Speaker 06 I also said Next.
23:33 Speaker 07 Good work.
23:34 Speaker 04 Way to go, David.
23:35 Speaker 06 Way to go, David. I was not yet alive.
23:36 Speaker 07 David's tearing it up over here.
23:37 Speaker 06 Tearing it up.
23:38 Nilay Patel? I was super alive, bruh.
23:40 Speaker 06 Here's a fun trivia fact. The internet...
23:42 Nilay Patel? I was living the dream with my next cube.
23:46 Speaker 07 Never heard of this company. Alright, Alice. We knew that.
23:49 Speaker 04 Alright, next question.
23:53 Speaker 04 Craig Federighi once rick-rolled the audience at WWDC. What Apple app was he showing off new features for when he did this?
24:01 Nilay Patel? Oh god.
24:02 Speaker 07 Better be Safari. What Apple app? Can you tell us what year it was?
24:05 Speaker 04 2015.
24:06 Speaker 06 Thank you. That was probably, that's probably when that came out. Yeah, it wasn't here.
24:10 Speaker 07 Sure.
24:10 Speaker 04 Five, four, three, two, and one.
24:15 Nilay Patel? I don't like this at all.
24:16 Speaker 07 This feels too obvious.
24:17 Speaker 04 Andy?
24:18 Speaker 07 Put Apple Music.
24:20 Nilay Patel? I went with iMovie.
24:21 Speaker 04 The correct answer was Safari.
24:23 Nilay Patel? I do, I'm so sorry! I should have just said Safari. I'm so sorry!
24:28 Speaker 07 I said that and we erased it. Oh.
24:30 Nilay Patel? Yeah, it was obviously Safari.
24:32 Speaker 04 Two more questions in the Craig round. First question. Craig almost always wears a shirt of a shade of what color?
24:40 Speaker 07 That's too easy, I knew I was getting that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I need a, like, a good five-point question. That's true. You know? I still think we'd lose.
24:49 Nilay Patel? I believe you.
24:50 Speaker 07 No, we, we tied. Do you not immediately know? No. I mean, I did.
24:53 Nilay Patel? Wow!
24:55 Speaker 07 Is it weird that I know that? I knew that too, actually. I think, is this weird? Weird, no.
24:57 Speaker 04 Three, two, one.
25:01 Speaker 07 It's definitely blue, yeah.
25:02 Nilay Patel? Yeah, it's blue.
25:03 Speaker 04 Two correct answers.
25:04 Speaker 07 For sure.
25:05 Nilay Patel? Two points.
25:05 Speaker 07 Final answer. A lot of genes on stage. Let's go. Last one.
25:08 Speaker 04 Our last Craig question is...
25:10 Nilay Patel? Finally, the question was what color was the shirt? That was good. Alright, David, save the game for us.
25:15 Speaker 07 Forget it.
25:15 Nilay Patel? Neil, you gotta pass it to him.
25:16 Speaker 07 I will, save the game for you guys.
25:18 Nilay Patel? You got it.
25:19 Speaker 04 I'm ending, I'm sorry Craig, I'm ending the Craig round here, we have time for one more question. The question is, and this is a David V David question, but all are welcome to chime in. What is the flagship Vox Media technology podcast?
25:35 Nilay Patel? Oh, good.
25:36 Speaker 07 Do you want a serious answer?
25:38 Speaker 04 I don't know.
25:40 Nilay Patel? It's the weeds.
25:42 Speaker 07 Wait, it's just right what's on the back. Oh, yeah.
25:45 Nilay Patel? It's decoder.
25:46 Speaker 04 Three, two, one. Flip him and read.
25:51 Speaker 07 Vergeform. The phrase you're looking for is the goddamn Vergecast.
25:57 Nilay Patel? David threw you a bone.
25:58 Speaker 04 I don't know, David points to you in the heart. But, uh, I'm just gonna say, you're both wrong for some reason.
26:05 Speaker 04 And those are our questions for this evening, guys. G Fuel.
26:12 Speaker 04 In second place, we have Waveform with nine points.
26:17 Nilay Patel? No, first place in our hearts. Come on, man. That was super fun.
26:20 Speaker 04 Flagship Vox Media Technology Podcast, maybe?
26:23 Nilay Patel? Yeah, the Waveform Podcast, obviously.
26:26 Speaker 04 Our winners of trivia this evening, Vergecast with 14 points.
26:31 Nilay Patel? Give it up for G Fuel, our sponsor. Well done, Dan. Good job, David.
26:34 Speaker 08 Channel sponsor G Fuel.
26:37 Nilay Patel? Well played. Good game.
26:38 Speaker 08 Well done.
26:38 Nilay Patel? Great job. Dan did it. Great job. Brimstone for life.
26:42 Speaker 03 You did better. Nilay Marquez, take us out.
26:45 Speaker 07 Oh.
26:46 Nilay Patel? Yeah.
26:47 Speaker 07 Rock and roll.
26:48 Nilay Patel? Rock and roll. How do you guys end your show?
26:50 Speaker 07 Uh.
26:51 Nilay Patel? Just peter out?
26:52 Speaker 07 Thanks for what? Yeah.
26:53 Nilay Patel? We kind of just peter out.
26:56 Nilay Patel? You're just trying to get canceled. Yeah. No, that was super fun. Thank you all for watching. It was incredible. We're gonna do more collabs in the future. This was a really great time. Brimstone for life. Now you can say it.
27:07 Speaker 07 Rock and roll.
27:08 Nilay Patel? There you go.
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