Tucker Responds to the Republican Midterm Bloodbath

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• 0:01Tucker Carlson?

  Well, that was a disaster and not just a metaphorical disaster, but a real disaster, more like the Lusitania sinking than rain at the wedding reception, like an actual disaster. And we go through all kinds of numbers to prove that point. You already know it, of course, but a couple of examples tell the story poignantly. So it wasn't just that Republicans lost Ohio, Ohio, the vice president's home state, or that Texas is now completely Democratic, every statewide office held by a Democrat, including the governor, lieutenant governor, pretty amazing, down to land commissioner, railroad commissioner. It's that Mississippi, as of right now, and it could change because there's been no official

• 0:44Tucker Carlson?

  winner declared, but as of right now, it looks like Mississippi could get a Democrat in the Senate. Mississippi, when was the last time Mississippi elected a Democrat to the United States Senate? Well, the last time was like a multi-term incumbent segregationist white Democrat. This is a black Democrat, right? And he is winning as of right now. How badly did it go for Republicans last night? In Alabama, a transgendered Democrat beat a Republican incumbent in the state house. So the state of Alabama, which has got to be pound for pound, like the most conservative state out of 50, just elected

• 1:24Tucker Carlson?

  a transgender Democrat, ousting a Republican. And it's not like there was an outcry in Alabama, hey, you know, the one thing we lack is we don't have enough transgender representation in the state house. Let's kick out the Republican and put it up, dude in address and we'll, the state will be better. People will want to come here. That's not what happened at all. That's not what happened in Mississippi, and it's not what happened in Ohio, and it's not what happened in Texas. It's not what happened anywhere. All of this was a response to the first two years of the Trump administration. This was kind of a collective howl of pain. This was a reaction to what the country's been going through for the last two years. And if you call around to people today, and maybe you have to get reactions, like, what

• 2:06Tucker Carlson?

  do you think of this? This is unbelievable. It's the biggest blowout of our lifetimes, which it is. You will likely find that the more conservative the person you call, the more pro-Trump this person was two years ago, the more this person is likely to say, well, this is a disaster, of course, but I'm not entirely sad about it. In other words, this may not be what we deserve, but it's definitely what the Republican Party deserves. And that is true. That is absolutely true. And if you're a fair person, if you believe in justice, if you think the guilty should be punished, it's kind of hard to look at the election results and say they're wrong. And you could say they're not preferable. We don't want

• 2:50Tucker Carlson?

  actually a transgender state legislator in Alabama, like, probably not going to help in any way. And at the very least, I have to read a lot of stories about breaking the transgender ceiling or whatever. It's just going to be more lecturing about transgenderism. But you can't say that the Republicans had it stolen because they didn't. They got exactly what they deserved. And what they deserved was to be humiliated because of what they did to the rest of us. They literally tried to appoint Lindsey Graham's sister, who may be a nice person or who knows, but knows nothing about anything by her own admission, tried to give her the Senate seat, and not just by appointment, but like they stood her

• 3:32Tucker Carlson?

  for election in South Carolina. And she lost. Well, there's another state. When was the last time a Democrat was elected to the Senate in South Carolina? Probably should have checked before the show. Didn't. It's been a while. You think of that as like core Republican. I mean, that's, that's the base. I mean, that would be like Bethesda, Maryland going for Trump. It's just, it's not going to happen. Oh, but it just did. And again, it did because that's insulting. Like, who do you think we are? Lindsey Graham's sister? I don't know. I mean, no one's perfect, but Lindsey Graham was, of course, the problem. It was Lindsey Graham's program, this war, that destroyed the Republican Party. And he died, unfortunately,

• 4:15Tucker Carlson?

  not gloating over his death or anything, but he died. And that might have been the perfect moment to say, well, you know, good guy, you shouldn't attack people after they're dead. You really shouldn't. Show some restraint. But like, maybe we just never talk about it again. Maybe we don't try and resurrect the failed and frankly, repulsive and anti-human policies of Lindsey Graham through his sister, his hapless sister. It did feel like, this is an overused phrase, but it's a real one, a humiliation ritual. Let's give Lindsey Graham's sister. They'll vote for anything. I could shoot a man in Fifth Avenue and they'd still vote for me. That's the spirit that conveyed to the rest of us. We just don't care what you think. Hey, how about some Lindsey Graham's sister? You'll eat it. How

• 4:56Tucker Carlson?

  about Vivek Ramaswamy? No, we'd rather take the drunk lady, which they did. You had in state after state after state, Republicans voting for Democrats, not because we don't think they agree with the program. In fact, they just voted against the program two years ago this week, but because they have some self-respect or they're not going to be treated like that. It's just so obvious, the contempt. Trump and his cabinet and a bunch of consultants got together and decided, we don't care at all about the people who elected us. We think they owe us somehow. We don't owe them anything. They owe us. And let's see how far we can

• 5:39Tucker Carlson?

  push them. Let's see if we can run Greg Abbott for a fourth term, or Dan Patrick, the lieutenant governor of Texas, a true mediocrity. Let's give him four terms. And by the way, the things that they argue in favor of, the policies they espouse will be super unpopular. So in the case of Greg Abbott, who's a governor, was the governor of Texas for three terms, he's facing off against a Democrat. You know what the main issue, one of the main issues in that race was? Data centers. And across the country, when put to a vote of actual American citizens, people say resoundingly, eh, we're not for data centers. Like, why would we be for data centers? I mean, this sounds kind of dystopian. First of all, they're

• 6:21Tucker Carlson?

  ugly. Second, they gobble up the power in the water. Third, what's the point of data centers? Probably not to help me. Probably to surveil me. This feels all like a digital prison. That is the view of a lot of people in this country, the majority, actually. And so here you had the three-term governor of Texas basically taking the side of data centers, and the Democrat was just like awake enough, or maybe she really meant it, who knows? She's now going to be the governor, so we'll find out. She ran against data centers. And guess what? Most people agreed with her. So not surprisingly, she won. That's not hard. That's called democracy. But Republicans refused to practice it. And so once again, they lost in a way that is generational. In fact, almost kind of no matter what they

• 7:04Tucker Carlson?

  do, given the numbers of it, if you game it out, there's kind of no coming back for a generation. If a Republican somehow were to win in 2028, two years from now, and blow it out, like biggest, of course, likely not going to happen, though who knows, but can't imagine it. But let's just say that did happen, and the Republican who wins in 2028 wins by, say, the same margin Richard Nixon won in 1972, which is the biggest margin in American history, they still would not control the Senate. They can't. So what could they do? Could they get any of their nominees confirmed? Like, you can kind of see what a huge deal this is, assuming that the current system continues. And, you know, I wouldn't really assume anything right now because we're in a, we're in a change moment, but we hope

• 7:49Tucker Carlson?

  it continues. Anyway, the repudiation of the Republicans was complete. That repudiation, of course, was a repudiation of Trump. And so we can say, without hyperbole or gloating, this is the end of the Trump era. Last night, we're done. It's also the end, by the way, of the Fox News era. A former White House staffer called today and described Fox News as the president's real PDB, his real presidential daily brief, the place where he gets his information. And there's some truth in that. And it's hard to imagine that we would have gone to war in Iran if Fox News hadn't broadcast specifically to the president, who they knew was watching, specific shows, The Mark Levin Show, The Morning Show. He watches those. They know that. The anchors talked to him. And they spoke directly to him. And they helped

• 8:34Tucker Carlson?

  persuade him, maybe more than anybody else in this country.

• 8:39Tucker Carlson?

  Of course, there was Netanyahu pushing from the outside of this country, but within the country, the main lobby for this war was Fox News, and it's been systematic, and it's not an attack made out of bitterness, it's just an observable reality, and you can check it if you want, because the clips reside forever, they're there. And Fox News anchors spoke as one, really with only one exception, in the entire lineup, there's only one person who's even mildly skeptical of the Iran war. That person, of course, has been denounced, needless to say, as an anti-Semite, Hitler-adjacent. But everybody else, whether through fear or foolishness, got on board. And this is what they got, a total destruction of the Republican Party. So that's over. I mean, it'll continue, they've got cable subscriptions and everything, but like, this is, we're done here with Fox News,

• 9:24Tucker Carlson?

  we're done here with Trump. Now, that doesn't mean Trump himself is done, he could conceivably serve out the rest of his term, and we should just pause now and say, simply because the president and his party have been repudiated, doesn't mean he's without power, because the president acts outside the country, completely unrestrained by the Constitution. There's no check and/or balance on what Trump does in the realm of foreign policy. And that is absolutely true until mid-January, when the new Congress comes in. Even if the new Congress were to exercise its constitutional authority to demand consent before starting a war, which they haven't done in, well, probably since the Korean War, 75 years ago, but even if they were gonna do that, there's no one to do that until January. So at least

• 10:05Tucker Carlson?

  until January, Trump could do literally whatever he wants, and nobody can stop him. It doesn't matter how unpopular he is, it doesn't matter how loudly voters have shouted their disapproval, absolutely doesn't matter. Our system gives him total unrestrained power. And of course, the rest of the world is watching this, and now seems like a good time just to add something that is true, which is, our rivals in this world, and that would include Russia and Iran, whether they should be or not is another question, but they are, in practical terms, our rivals, we're at war with both of them, both understand exactly what has happened. Trump is weak, he has no support domestically, but he still retains these executive powers. And they've sent very clear messages, that if the president

• 10:50Tucker Carlson?

  were to act with aggression in Iran at any time in the coming weeks, that they would act with no restraint at all against the United States and its allies, particularly against Ukraine, against the six Gulf states, and against Europe. So just to be clear, the peril is not over. Just because the public has said resoundingly, "We're not into what you're doing," doesn't mean that they'll stop doing it. And in fact, there is some indication that Trump will double down. But any case, no matter what happens outside the country or within it, this is the end of an era. You could sort of mark it on your calendar, Trumpism, gone. So that raises a couple of questions. What comes next is the most obvious, and the answer is, we're not exactly sure. But there'll be time to

• 11:32Tucker Carlson?

  think that through. In the meantime, it might be worth thinking about two things. One, how do we feel about this? And I think most people who voted for Trump would concede, probably, that they have mixed feelings about it, that they're sad to see the party they voted for, a lot of their lives lose, they think justice was likely done, you can't like, allow them to appoint Lindsey Graham's sister, you know, run Mike Rogers, you know, just, it was like, probably the only man in history who's lost two Senate seats in consecutive elections, like, the voters just rejected him last cycle, but the donors put him back on because he's pro-Israel, so voters are never gonna go for that, in the end. If they have a choice, they're not gonna vote for Mike Rogers, and why would

• 12:13Tucker Carlson?

  they? So, justice was done, but it's sad. But there are also some upsides, which are worth remembering. One is that the happiness and the quality of your life is not exclusively determined by politics. That's one lens, it's the lens that social media encourages, encourages you to think about your life in global terms, and if everything is not working well in the world, then I must be unhappy. But in real life, you've got a constellation of people around you, and probably healthier to judge your happiness by the strength of the relationships with the people around you. So if your wife and kids are happy, and your nephews are happy, and your college roommates are happy, and your employees are happy, your coworkers, like, it's kinda hard to say it's a bad day. So it's good to be reminded of that, once in a while, right? Don't live outside your life, like,

• 12:58Tucker Carlson?

  once in a while, pull back within it, look around, how's it going? The second thing to think about is that, with the end of Trumpism, there'll be an end of definitely some good things, but there will also, we hope and pray, be an end to the unceasing daily drama. The kind of sitcom pacing of American life for the last 10 years. I mean, it's no surprise that the top-rated star on NBC has kind of scripted our national conversation along the lines of a hit TV show for the last decade. And there've been parts of that that are great, and those of us in TV recognize it immediately, we know what that is, "Well, that's a cliffhanger, we'll be right back, hold on," you know,

• 13:40Tucker Carlson?

  that's what we've been living through. But it's tiresome, and it's hard on you to live like that for too long. It's like following a drunk driver, you know, it's lots of stopping and starting, and is he gonna go off the road? What's he going from 75 to 25? It's like, it can drive you crazy after a while. And there's no time to think clearly. And of course, that's probably not an accident, it's by design. If you keep people totally off balance and distracted, you can do pretty much whatever you want, but it's not good for the people watching at all. Non-stop drama drains your adrenal glands and defeats your spirit. So it will be nice to have a kind of stasis for a moment, a little bit of breathing room, where we can at least assess what's happening and figure out how

• 14:22Tucker Carlson?

  we feel about it. Slowing the pace a little bit is good for its own sakes, that's the other thing to remember. But above all, we should be grateful to Trump, even if you voted against him, even if you've come to despise Trump, even if you feel correctly that he sold you out for a foreign country, which he did. And there's no forgiving that. Of course, there's forgiving it, but there's no approving of it. There's always forgiving, but there is not approving. You can't approve, that is immoral. It's wrong for a leader to choose another country over you, just like it would be wrong for a kid to take the neighbor's kids to Disney World where his own kid starved. That's just, that's immoral, that's exactly what Trump did. He chose Israel over the United States. People

• 15:04Tucker Carlson?

  lie about it, but everyone can see it, super, super obvious, and that's just wrong. The good news is, as noted, everybody can see it. And that is, in the end, the lasting contribution of Donald Trump. 20 years from now, we're still trying to figure out, what was that? How'd that guy get to be president, and how should we feel about it? I think we're gonna have to be honest enough to admit that we should be thankful for the main thing he did for us, which is to reveal the subterranean architecture of power. Trump, by his presence, by design or not, it almost doesn't matter, pulled back the curtain, and suddenly we could see how the system actually works. And it's been horrifying, and it is

• 15:48Tucker Carlson?

  the main reason that you often hear people say, "All the conspiracy theorists are right." How many times have you heard that? It's a meme. Well, it's a meme because there's some truth in it. Most people, especially over 40, grew up in a country where the overwhelming majority of the population accepted that the official account of things was probably roughly correct. There was some lying and some secrecy, but the whole system wasn't based on it. And in the end, if you wanted to make a change, you would just vote, and if enough people voted, the change would happen. And if there's one thing we've learned during the last 10 years of Trumpism, it's that that's not true. And we know that, because

• 16:26Tucker Carlson?

  Trump's 2024 coalition was the broadest, probably since Nixon, probably in 50 years, and it voted for something very, very specific, and it got the opposite. And so that tells us everything. It tells us that the system they told us was in place, may still be in place in name, but it's not actually the system that produces the meaningful decisions in our society at all. And because we've been debating this for the last year and a half, all of a sudden, we can see exactly how things work. And it's ugly, and it's horrifying, it's making people paranoid and angry, it's dividing the country deeply, and all of that is bad, and certainly distressing. But it's essential to know if you're going

• 17:09Tucker Carlson?

  to fix it. You have to know what the problem is, if you've got a leak in your ceiling, you have to find out where the pipe broke, or else you can't fix it. And now we have a much clearer sense of where the pipes are, and where they're leaking. So we should count ourselves lucky to see what previous generations have not seen, which is how things, or aversion, some of the truth about how things actually work. So all of this pressure being applied to our political system and to our society has revealed stuff that is absolutely worth knowing.

• 17:42Tucker Carlson?

  And so if you think about it in those terms, it's probably not surprising that the Republican Party was destroyed, which it just has been. Now, it may be rebuilt. You know, we hope probably could use a second party just for balance in this country. But as of right now, the Republican Party has been destroyed. And that shouldn't surprise you. It didn't take long at all. In fact, it took exactly two years to the week. Now, why was it destroyed? Well, of course, it had to be because Donald Trump, again unwittingly or wittingly, or who knows? We can only state conclusively what we saw happen. He built a party that was a truly nationalist party. And it was nationalist much more than it was sectarian or partisan, which is to say Trump was never a very enthusiastic Republican.

• 18:26Tucker Carlson?

  There were a lot of Democrats who voted for him. Trump, despite, you know, four years of propaganda about how he was a Klansman or a racist, wasn't actually much of a racist, no more than most people. And the proof are the election results from just two years ago this week, in which Trump got 30% of black men, like the most reliably Democratic group of voters in the country voted for Trump at 30%. The majority have Hispanic men. Now, that's not race mongering or box checking or DEI. No, it's the antidote to that. Because actually, what you don't want is that. You don't want a country where power is apportioned along ethnic lines, because then you will wind up as Rwanda. It's inevitable.

• 19:09Tucker Carlson?

  If you run the country on identity politics, you will have ethnic violence, obviously. I mean, it's like the story of all history. So try not to do that. And what's the alternative to that? Well, the alternative to that is a politics that's based on things bigger than ethnicity. And there are things, believe it or not, that are bigger than tribe, running it on ideas that actually pull people together who have other core differences, but they're united in this one thing. And Trump did it along the lines of what he called MAGA, Make America Great Again, or more precisely, America First. And it's a really simple idea. It's the core idea behind democracy, behind all government, really, which is you put your country first if you run it.

• 19:53Tucker Carlson?

  The whole point of holding power in a country is to serve the country over which you hold power. It's like not a hard concept. In fact, there's no other legitimate basis upon which to rule. Either you're serving your people or you're a criminal. It's kind of that simple. And in our system, that's literally true because that's articulated in our founding documents. The whole point is self-government. So it's not like America First was some like radical theory, you know, that Hitler thought up or something. No, it's the only legitimate way to run any country and particularly this one. So Trump was just bringing us back to center in his kind of crazy inarticulate way. And people, people understood it, even though he could never really explain it. They kind of got it.

• 20:38Tucker Carlson?

  Like, why wouldn't the point of the US government be to help Americans? We can debate how, but what's the other reason we would have a government? Oh, shut up, Hitler. Okay. And because they were so adamant in denouncing it, you knew that this was probably a threat to someone's income or someone's power. And indeed, it was. In fact, it was such a threat. What was it a threat to? Well, it was a threat to the system we currently have, which is a system that doesn't recognize borders or most ethnicities or sort of any interest other than its own. It's effectively a global government run by, well, the deepest pools of capital. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just clearly true.

• 21:21Tucker Carlson?

  So the US had no sovereignty and Trump was trying to restore that. And people loved it. The majority of the Hispanic vote? I thought he hated Hispanics. And he sort of, is it not a defense of Trump? I mean, maybe he does hate Hispanics. I mean, you know, who knows what he really thinks? Does it really matter? What matters is he assembled the antidote to atomization and violent conflict, to disaster, the antidote to disaster, which is like a way to unite the population against its bad leadership. And that's exactly what we need. I mean, that's the main thing that we need is the recognition that most of us have more in common with each other than we do with the people looting and mismanaging the country. That's just objectively true.

• 22:05Tucker Carlson?

  Sorry, they don't like it when you say that, but it's not hate. What they're doing is hate. So don't be intimidated. And Trump wasn't intimidated. But the second he did that, you kind of thought to yourself, can this continue? Can they allow this? I mean, this is really a threat. Now we're getting toward the actual red line. They're always like, oh, racism is the red light. Racism? I mean, like, they don't care at all about racism. Read the, read the Jeffrey Epstein emails. Everyone's a Schwarzer. They don't, they don't care about racism, trust me. What they care about are threats to their own power, obviously. And what Trump managed to pull off two years ago this week was an actual threat. And so like, somebody had to destroy this coalition. And the people with the greatest interest in doing this were the neocons. Who are the neocons? Well, they're people who reject outright the core belief

• 22:50Tucker Carlson?

  of the Trump campaign of 2020 and 2016 and 2020 and every Trump campaign, which is why they always hated him. And the core claim was, no, we're doing this for us first. Like, why wouldn't we? We have to. Can't take the neighbor's kids to Disney World if ours are starving. And they hated that because of course, they don't think that our people should come first. They think that Israel should come first. And they just say that at this point. So they had to kind of destroy it. And they absolutely did. In about 18 months, they took a coalition which had all kinds of components to it. People who didn't even know that they had similar views or could be united were united. And 18 months later, it's just like Mark Levin. A couple of other people like, who's for this?

• 23:35Tucker Carlson?

  Well, we found out yesterday, no one is for it. Why laugh? Because it's just so obvious and kind of hilarious. And of course, it can't be allowed to stand. I mean, these people have no right to the Republican Party. They just got there. I mean, by the way, these are all people who like reject the entire Republican Party platform. They have no interest in anything that happens in this country, certainly not in the condition of the family or jobs. I mean, these are the same people who lectured you about your whining about prices. It was outrageous. You're not patriotic? It's like, you are calling me unpatriotic? When you spend your entire life serving a foreign government? I don't think I'm the unpatriotic one here, actually. And by the way, the Mississippi race?

• 24:19Tucker Carlson?

  You may be wondering like, how did a black Democrat in a state that's not majority black, it's got the highest black population, but nowhere near a big enough population to get a statewide victory, like not even close. So a lot of white people voted for the Democrat in Mississippi. How did that happen? Well, because the incumbent Republican Senator was doing a television interview and she was asked like, meat prices are kind of high. People are concerned about beef prices. And she goes, look right into camera and you can look it up. It's amazing. And she goes, yeah, find another protein. Find another protein? Oh, lentils? Like, who do you think you're talking to? Who do you think you are? You're like some senator and you're lecturing me about how I should just find another protein? You're back of the handing me?

• 25:02Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, it's, it'll enrage you to watch it and it enraged the voters in Mississippi to the point where white Republicans voted for the black Democrat, which is sort of a weird kind of inverse of the Trump coalition of 2024. It's people coming together across partisan lines, across racial lines in solidarity with each other in the insistence, the very simple, not for Medicare for all or whatever the actual program is, but for the theme behind the program, which is like, why don't they care about us? They should. You see what's happening here. So in this very specific case, which is the case of the last two years

• 25:43Tucker Carlson?

  of the Trump administration, we know exactly how this coalition got destroyed and the Republican Party was taken with it. We know exactly how, because Donald Trump, who made the party all about him, was only about him. Donald Trump chose a foreign country, Israel, its interests over his own country's interests. And like, there's no debating that. And exit polling shows it. And I mean, there's really so no other interpretation of it. I mean, that's just factually true. But that doesn't mean that your grandchildren will learn that in school, assuming there still are schools then. Why? Because history is so often rewritten in real time.

• 26:26Tucker Carlson?

  So you imagine, as you look back and try to understand what happened in ancient Carthage, or even, I don't know, during the French Revolution, you imagine that we just don't have the right documents or, you know, we don't really know, you can't interview anyone involved, which you never imagined, but you should know. And anyone in the news business can tell you this because they watch it in real time, that events, the second they cease occurring, are very often, maybe most of the time, distorted in news accounts, in popular histories, and ultimately in textbooks, into something that does not even resemble what actually happened. Like, people can lie right at you almost as something is happening.

• 27:10Tucker Carlson?

  And if they keep doing it long enough, no one remembers that they're lying. Now, why is this bad? Well, it's bad for a couple of reasons. One, it's an offense against the truth, which is a virtue in itself. We become strong when we tell the truth. We are weakened when we lie. It's just a fact. But also because it's impossible to make wise decisions down the road if you don't even know what happened in the past. One of the reasons, with some exceptions, including recently, that planes don't crash very often in the United States and commercial planes very rarely crash. Why is that? It's not just because of technological advances. It's because the rigor that the regulatory agencies, the one thing they do very well, apply to analyzing why planes go down.

• 27:53Tucker Carlson?

  So when a plane crashes, a team investigators rolls in and they kind of spare no expense trying to figure out exactly what went wrong. And then they broadcast it to everybody. They're as transparent, it's probably the most functional thing the US government does. And they tell every pilot in the world, this is exactly why the plane went down. And here's our conclusion. You can draw your own conclusions, by the way. Here's the data. And like, don't do this or you could crash too. And that system really works because they don't try and rewrite history. The plane doesn't go down and then they like make up some lie about why it went down because planes would keep going down if they did that, obviously. Well, if...

• 28:32Tucker Carlson?

  Your country keeps starting pointless wars in the Middle East on behalf of Israel. And every single time you lose, you diminish your power, you get your own citizens killed, and you incrementally go bankrupt. Maybe at some point, someone will be like, this is a bad idea. We can't follow Israel into any more wars. Well, that hasn't happened because no one has been brave enough to say what's really going on. We did this in the Iraq War over 20 years ago, 23 years ago. We followed Israel's demands into a war. But that's been like basically erased from history. Ask anyone who's involved in it, they'll tell you, oh, that's absolutely what happened. And it was Netanyahu, by the way, same guy. But you're not going to find that in any textbook. It's like, oh, George W. Bush believed that there were weapons of mass destruction.

• 29:16Tucker Carlson?

  Well, who knows what he actually believed, but he was led to that by the Israeli government and the Israeli intel agencies for their benefit. So because we weren't honest about that, because we allowed liars to distort reality right in front of us, we kept doing it again and again and again. That's how Joe Kent's wife died in Syria. Why were we in Syria? Same thing, same guy, Bibi Netanyahu. You need to be in Syria. Hmm, okay, gas attacks, gas attacks, or whatever the lie was. And then Iran, the big one, the one that actually ends American empire, that actually does bankrupt us and really does threaten the dollar and a lot of other things. So the point is obvious.

• 29:55Tucker Carlson?

  It's really important to insist that history not be rewritten by the same liars, the same people who always lie about history. Okay? No, you're not doing that. You can't steal my memory from me. I know what happened. But already it's starting. And you see this whenever there's an event. You certainly see it when there's like a school shooting. Everyone jumps up on television, who actually, the real lesson here is, you know, we need to get Coca-Cola out of high schools or whatever. Like, everybody sort of puts their pet issue onto this tragedy and tries to leverage the tragedy to get their issue moved. You're seeing the same thing happen in the hours after this election.

• 30:39Tucker Carlson?

  So here, I can't resist throwing this in there, but this is, this is taped from a guy called Mark Short, who most people have never heard of. He was at one time a big deal in Washington, a mocker in Washington. He was, Mike Pence's chief of staff seems like a small thing now, kind of a hilarious thing, actually. He followed Pence into whatever Pence went on to do, take money from neocon donors to have some think tank, nobody cares about, whatever. But anyway, this guy used to be a big deal in DC. And he was invited on Bloomberg to explain as a kind of gray beard and like, Mark Short knows what's going on. Mark Short, why did the Republicans lose? Watch this.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  I think this was pretty much a political Armageddon for Republicans. I think it's a, it's a complete, not just geographic location, but not just federal offices, but state offices. And I, and I think it's a, it's repudiation of the last two years. And I think there's no doubt that, you know, when, when you're a party that, that has advanced a trade agenda that the far left promotes, when you're a Republican Party that is taking over private sector companies, when you're a Republican Party that no longer stands for life, and when you're a Republican Party that is siding with ex-KGB officer Vladimir Putin against a country fighting for its freedom, I think voters become disenfranchised.

• 31:52Tucker Carlson?

  Yes, Putin. We sided with Putin, the ex-KGB officer. See, it turns out when someone served in a naughty intel agency, they're totally discredited from public service, unless it's like Abigail Spanberger or everyone else in Washington. Like, half of our elected officials in Congress have worked at intel agencies. Unless it's Bob Woodward of the Washington Post was a naval intel officer. Like, they're all spooks, actually. He's a former KGB officer. All right now. But really, Mark Short is telling us that voters were just mad, they're just mad that we weren't getting enough war. Like, what? We're not getting more Ukraine war? There are people trying to end the Ukraine war. We want more war. And they were so mad that he voted for Democrats in the hope they would get more war. I mean, it's like, it's insane.

• 32:36Tucker Carlson?

  Are there, are there any data to prove that? Well, of course not. But trust us, if you keep repeating something long enough, like Russia's our main enemy, they hacked the DNC, which by the way, spoiler, they didn't. But if you keep repeating that enough, like you wind up at war with Russia, which we are. You can speak reality into existence. Words create reality, something that Trump understands, but very few seem to understand that outside of politics. Words create reality. If you keep saying something, it becomes real. It is a spell. It's an incantation. Words are the most powerful force that human beings possess, including arms. Russia did it, Putin, former KGB.

• 33:20Tucker Carlson?

  You allow people to talk like that unchallenged? Your grandkids will be like, yeah, you remember the Putin-KGB election when the Republican Party got destroyed? But the one thing they want you to, above all, is that the Iran War had nothing to do with this. And by the way, just a little rule of thumb, if everyone in DC or everyone on television or everyone on the social media channels is telling you one thing and they're saying it fervently, whatever it is, Putin is our enemy, diversity is our strength, like, you don't know what's true exactly, but you know for certain, the thing they're saying is the opposite of the truth. Like, that we know. If I'm insistent to the point of being angry at you in making my case, you don't believe me, diversity is our strength.

• 34:04Tucker Carlson?

  You're Hitler if you don't agree with me. I can be pretty sure diversity is not our strength. I mean, I don't know if I'm against it or not, but I'm pretty sure it's not our strength. In fact, I'm positive. Because it was, it was our strength. You would just say, you know, I kind of think diversity may be our strength. And you'd be like, oh, that's interesting. Let me think about that. I think Putin may be our main enemy. Well, maybe he is. Let me think about that. But if you begin the conversation with Putin is Hitler, and if you don't agree, you're Hitler too. It's fair to say that Hitler and Putin have nothing to do with each other. In fact, it was the Russians who defeated Hitler, I think, and that Putin is probably not our main enemy. In any case, they are telling you the Iran War had nothing to do with us. Now, this is an amazing clip from our old friends, people we always promised not to

• 34:49Tucker Carlson?

  go back to, but can't resist somehow, week after week. This will be Mark Shapiro, Mark Shapiro, Ben, whatever, Shapiro and Levin, people probably never hear from after this week, oh, we hope. And this is them a month, a month and three days or something. This is in, at the end of September, before the election, when everybody who was following this at all, even like on the level of Instagram, everybody knew there was going to be a Republican wipeout because of the war in Iran. Everybody knew that. And they just wanted you to know, that's not true at all. Watch.

• 35:26Speaker 02

  When we look at the Fox survey, Iran is a 4% issue with the American people. So whatever happens in the midterms, it doesn't appear that Iran's going to drive anything one way or another. What's your take on this?

• 35:42Speaker 03

  I think that's exactly right.

• 35:43Tucker Carlson?

  We need more of that. Ben Shapiro, it's Mark Levin. I think something completely insane, do you agree? Oh, yes, I agree. Oh, absolutely. It's in the Fox News survey, Iran is 4%. 4%. Who's big survey? And what was the survey question? Do you care about Iran as a nation? Yeah, maybe that'd be 4%. Are you for destroying the US economy and paying a lot more for fuel and food and everything else to get rid of their nuclear program or to please the Likud coalition in Israel? That might get a different response, but whatever.

• 36:25Tucker Carlson?

  No matter what their source, whatever the data was, whatever the Wikipedia citation that they throw at you, it's the fakest thing ever. And why is it important to say that? It's important to say that because the people on the screen you just saw destroyed not simply the Republican Party, but gravely damaged this country. And not for the first time. This is not the first war that those people argued us into. It's not even the third war that they argued us into. And the United States is bankrupt because of those wars. And that's not an antisemitic conspiracy theory, it's math. Trillions of dollars that we had to borrow and on which the interest payments are now like overwhelming our federal budget. So it's actually destroyed the country.

• 37:10Tucker Carlson?

  I know it's not $4 billion a year, whatever stupid number they throw out there, like, oh, really, $4 billion a year? No, it's your kid's future. And that's totally real. As a question of math, that's real and provably real. So, you know, only God can decide like what happens to people like that in the end. That's definitely not our place. We're not even going to speculate. But we can say as a matter of self-preservation, and of course of justice, but certainly just to, just to like preserve our country, people like that cannot make any decisions anymore, ever. They cannot participate meaningfully in the Republican Party ever again. And that's all of them. It's not just like the florid, obvious grotesque ones with spittle on their ties on Fox News. Those people are going away. They never meant anything in the first place.

• 37:53Tucker Carlson?

  There's the mouthpieces for those who are paying them and for the people with actual power in the Congress, the Republicans who didn't lose yesterday, and a lot of the Democrats for that matter. So it's got to be the end. They cannot continue to run this country because they're running it into the ground. Now, you could say, you know, it's undemocratic to have a small group, you know, people whose views are different from the rest of the population, run the country. But the truth is, there are countries where you've got like a ruling class, doesn't have that much in common with the rest of the country, and still does a pretty good job. I mean, Jordan, which is, under the circumstances, a very well-run country, is run by people who are not Jordanian, they're, well, they're really Saudi, they're the Hashemites. They do a great job. Would you want them to leave?

• 38:38Tucker Carlson?

  No. Who else is going to run Jordan? I mean, it doesn't, it could work, but these people not only have no interest in the United States, they're openly hostile to the United States, like to its core interest, to its people. Its people are not thriving, and they think that's fine. Just import more people. So they actually hate you. I mean, it just couldn't be clearer. Like, don't lie to yourself. They don't like you. And so they can't have any more power, period, like under any circumstances. Like, that's the non-negotiable point.

• 39:09Tucker Carlson?

  So if you're Republican, you're probably not as mad at JD Vance as you were at Donald Trump. You're probably pretty mad because like, why didn't he speak up? Fair, totally fair. And this is not in any way like an attempt to resurrect JD Vance or argue that he should be the nominee in 2028. Who knows what's going to happen? If someone had asked you 18 months ago, will the Republicans lose every statewide race in Texas? Like, you never would have called that. I wouldn't either. So we can't see the future. This has nothing to do with that. Sincerely, it's not shilling for JD Vance. It is appreciating the truth when it's told, which all people should do. It is a virtue to appreciate the truth for its own sake on its own terms. When someone says something true, it doesn't matter who it is. If it's true, you should nod in reverent appreciation, say, thank you for telling the truth, because the truth is what matters.

• 39:54Tucker Carlson?

  And JD Vance, in a lengthy Twitter post, which you probably read, if you hadn't, you ought to, basically just says it out loud. Here, I checked with the pollsters. He's got skin in the game. Of course, he's the Vice President of the United States. Like, this matters to him and to his reputation and his future job prospects. And like, he's involved in this. And we want to know why we didn't just lose, but we got totally humiliated and destroyed. Like, it destroyed our party. He says this in the, in the post, and here's why. And let me just read you what he said, because it's true. The top four answers from pollsters, according, accounting for nearly all of the responses that we got to the question, why are you voting the way you are, were, one, end the war. Two, focus on cost of living slash inflation. Three, put America first.

• 40:37Tucker Carlson?

  Four, change our relationship to Israel. Our vote, continuing the quote, our voters showed up, Republican voters went to the polls yesterday, and for the four above reasons, many of them voted for Democrats. Imagine admitting that. That's, that's why you know it's true and virtuous. Here's a guy admitting that people voted for him two years ago, voted against him yesterday. I mean, you should always admit the truth, but it's hard and most people don't. And they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, voters are stupid. No, he's saying, no, actually, they had good reason. And here are the reasons. And number one was the war. And then inflation, they're not putting America first. And what is this bizarre relationship we have with Israel? Why is everyone worshiping Israel? Like, what is that? Shut up, anti Semite.

• 41:22Tucker Carlson?

  No, not anti Semite. Like, but that's weird and creepy and wrong. And by the way, Israel is committing genocide. So of all countries to worship, why worshiping the genocide people? That's very weird. But if you think about it, all four of those reasons, which are undoubtedly true, and if you are a Trump voter who didn't vote for Republicans yesterday or voted against them, and we know a bunch of those, and it's not because they're liberal at all, it's because they're not liberal and they're mad, and they know that they've been abandoned to what? Statist authoritarianism. That's what's coming next. This is a total setup. Trump shows up, collects all people who want just like sensible nationalism, America first, why wouldn't you want that? Rug pulls, and the next thing you know, you're getting statist authoritarianism. Like, everyone feels that. So they're mad.

• 42:07Tucker Carlson?

  And that's why they're mad, those four issues. But you could sum up those four issues, you could condense the four into one by saying, what? What do they all add up to? They all add up to the perception, which is real, they don't care about me. And if they cared about me, why would they act like this? They clearly don't care. We're suffering, and they're focused on another country, another people. So there's not only lack of love, there's contempt. And why wouldn't they resent that deeply? Why wouldn't they feel betrayed? Why would they feel emotional about that? Well, they would, and they do, and they have every right and every reason to. And anyone who tells them they don't have a reason to is a liar.

• 42:48Tucker Carlson?

  But there's been no effort in DC at all, other than this tweet, to reckon with this. And instead, what there has been is an effort to browbeat people into not saying these things, into somehow pretending it's not true. I don't feel betrayed. I'm not mad that you're treating another country better than you're treating me. A country with universal healthcare is getting, you know, $50 billion or something in the last couple of years from the United States? Like, what? One more broke? And this is not even, you know, the, the costs of our relationship with Israel are like, anyone who tells you it's $4 billion a year is just lying. I mean, we're in the region, and a bunch of our guys have died as a result of that relationship. So the costs are like enormous.

• 43:33Tucker Carlson?

  They're enormous, they're genuinely enormous. And if you care about this country, you would admit that. It's not anti Semitism to admit that it's costing you a lot. Why is that hatred? It's not hatred, it's math. Anyway, there's just been a huge effort to lie about this, and people have caught on to it, thanks to Trump's magical ability to reveal what's actually going on beneath the surface. And so we would say that the single most resonant ad, and there were a couple of them, this entire cycle, unfortunately, it was not a Republican ad, should have been, it wasn't, it was an ad by Abdul al-Sayed, whose program, Speaking for Myself, I'm not in favor of a lot of it at all, he was like some weird COVID doctor. That's something that he needs to apologize for, and a lot of other people do too.

• 44:16Tucker Carlson?

  So it's not an endorsement of the guy, but on this question, who cares about you? He made the case that he did, and he did a really good job. Now, an outside group, run by Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks, wrote this ad and put it up in Michigan, and it got a great deal of attention. It became the focus of this controversy. This was anti Semitic. So if it was anti Semitic in real life, we probably wouldn't play it, because, you know, there's no reason to engender like ethnic hatred. There's not one thing that's anti Semitic about this ad. It's actually true, it's real. And watch it. Here's the ad.

• 44:54Speaker 04

  We get all the sandwich stuff for the kids' lunch? They don't like turkey anymore.

• 44:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know.

• 44:59Speaker 04

  What about the bananas?

• 45:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, I got them too. But honey.

• 45:04Speaker 04

  What?

• 45:05Speaker 05

  You're gonna have to put those eggs back.

• 45:07Speaker 04

  They don't like eggs anymore?

• 45:08Speaker 05

  No, they like eggs, but we have to set that $7 aside for killing Palestinians.

• 45:15Speaker 04

  What? I mean, don't we give Israel $4 billion a year anyways?

• 45:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, and now we're giving them another $26 billion. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer?

• 45:26Speaker 04

  No.

• 45:27Speaker 05

  It's like $161 per person. Apparently, it's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  It's terrible.

• 45:35Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:36Speaker 04

  I think at universal healthcare too.

• 45:38Speaker 05

  Yeah, they do. We're paying for that too, probably. Might as well put the bananas back.

• 45:45Speaker 04

  Why the do we have to pay for all of this?

• 45:49Speaker 05

  Don't cuss at me.

• 45:51Speaker 06

  Why does Mike Rogers care so much about what Israelis want and so little about what you want? Mike Rogers is for, they, them. Abdul al-Sayed is for you.

• 46:05Tucker Carlson?

  You know, except for the last line, which is pretty clever, actually, you know, is I'll say it for you, I don't know, I guess we'll find out, hope so, you know? But the rest of it is factually true.

• 46:16Tucker Carlson?

  That was anti Semitic! You're blaming Jews for the price of bananas? No! Blaming American policymakers, most of whom are not Jews, by the way, for siding with a foreign country over our country and shafting us in the process. And yes, we are paying for the bombs that are murdering children in Gaza. That's just a fact. Who else is paying for it? We're paying for them. You're paying for them. And this war has driven up costs because it has constricted the flow of commodities. And I don't know if you understand like how supply and demand works, but that results in higher prices in every country, including ours. So like, that's just a fact. That is, those are facts. And if you watch CNN, just because the Republicans are bad does not mean CNN tells the truth, just so you know. Or Fox News had anti Semitic ad, woo-hoo, by Hassan Piker's uncle.

• 47:02Tucker Carlson?

  Huh?

• 47:04Tucker Carlson?

  What is that? First of all, it's just absurd. And in the end, voters realized it was absurd, and by the way, including Jewish voters. So that anti Semitic ad runs and becomes the focus of this immense controversy. Immense anti Semitic ad, Hassan Piker's uncle, oh, pogroms, pogrom, Kristallnacht. 60% of Jews, voters who are Jewish, in Michigan, vote for that guy.

• 47:35Tucker Carlson?

  So which is like its own thing. It's like, there are a lot of interesting points you could make on the basis of that observation. But the most obvious is, okay, if it's, if that's Jew hatred, why did he get the majority of Jewish votes in Michigan? Well, because it's not. It's just true. And if you keep telling people, they're not allowed to say true and obvious things because it's hate, well, you don't reduce the amount of hate, by the way, just so you know, kind of counterproductive as a strategy, but you also drive people crazy and make them hate you. There was a famous line throughout the whole liberal era, which we hope never returns, because it's the most tiresome, destructive period, really, until this period. But there are Republicans that often say to each other, conservatives often say, shut up racist, because that was a response from liberals to everything.

• 48:19Tucker Carlson?

  Shut up racist! That was the kind of BLM, shut up racist! And they'd be like, you'd be like, Black Lives Matter! And you'd say, well, don't, all lives matter? Shut up! That's racist! All lives don't matter, just black lives! I feel like, can you hear yourself? That was called identity politics.

• 48:38Tucker Carlson?

  And you really hoped, and I think there probably is polling on this from two years ago, but you really hoped the election of Trump would get rid of nothing else, identity politics. I always say DEI, DEI. That's really just another word for identity politics. It was the idea that you governed with the idea that some groups are more important than other groups. You can attack some people, but not other people. All people are not equal, actually. Some people are worth more than others. You can offend some, but not others. Well, there's nothing more anti-American, anti-Christian, more disgusting than that attitude. That attitude is actually the enemy of Western civilization. That's the attitude that gets you genocide and slavery. And lots of people throughout history have had that attitude, but you have

• 49:19Tucker Carlson?

  to fight against it if you can. And it certainly will not work in America because there's no working majority of any group. So unless you find a way to unite people around something that is not their ethnic or religious identity, the whole country will devolve into civil war. Obviously, like, what's the end game for identity politics in 2026 America? There isn't one. So the whole idea of Trump was, and this was reflected in his coalition, like, we're going to rise above that crap. But they almost immediately, almost day one, started engaging in it. But instead of BLM, it was JLM, it was Jewish Lives Matter. Well, yeah, they do. Just as black lives do and white lives and Muslim lives and Chinese lives. Shut up!

• 49:58Tucker Carlson?

  Just Jewish lives. Muslim lives are bad. It's like, wait a second. How is that different from what we just lived through? I mean, the groups are different, and you could say, well, I like Jews better than I like Muslims, or better than I like black people. Okay, that's your preference. But as a matter of government policy, the US government has to treat every citizen the same, with the same rights, the same presumption of innocence. You cannot single people out on the basis of their ethnicity or religion in the United States if you're the US government. Maybe if you're a country club, okay, it's your private association. Though they'll, of course, give you an FBI raid if it's the wrong kind of discrimination. But the point is, the federal government can never discriminate. And we

• 50:42Tucker Carlson?

  thought this was established, but all of a sudden, the Trump people get in there, they defeat DEI and then start the JLM movement. And by the end of it, which was yesterday, you've got Mike Rogers in interviews the last day of the campaign, saying, if I'm elected, I'm going to do something about antisemitism. As if the Trump administration hasn't spent two full years making the fight against antisemitism its main cause for being there. And by the way, don't vote for the other guy because he's a Muslim. It's like, can you hear yourself? Is hating someone because he's Muslim better than hating for someone because he's Jewish? And if so, tell me how. How is that better? Well, of course, it's

• 51:24Tucker Carlson?

  not better. It's exactly the same. But of course, the one kind of hate, and this gets to yesterday's results in a precise way, that no one ever really criticizes, least of all, the Trump administration, this may be the greatest betrayal of all, for which they should be ashamed, but they're not. The most obvious kind of discrimination in the United States is anti-white discrimination, which is like ubiquitous and still in place, encoded at the universities, in federal hiring, in corporate hiring, and in federal contracting. It's still the law of the land. Jim Crow is still in place. It has not been dismantled. Don't let them lie to you. The Civil Rights Division is like, no, we're here to fight antisemitism at Harvard. Really? And there should never be antisemitism anywhere. But

• 52:09Tucker Carlson?

  antisemitism is no worse than anti-white discrimination, or anti-Muslim discrimination, or anti-anybody else discrimination. It's all the same. And if it's not all the same, then none of it's bad. It's just a preference. This is a universal principle, or it doesn't mean anything. That's really clear. And this is the point that all of us, regardless of party, have to insist on going forward because everything is at stake. All kinds of official government discrimination against people are wrong, or none of them are wrong. So we have to say they're wrong. We cannot allow them. We have to have zero tolerance. But the Trump administration has had enormous tolerance for this. They've had enormous

• 52:50Tucker Carlson?

  tolerance for this. And it's reflected, among many other places, in the job numbers. What's the unemployment rate for young white men? Well, it's almost twice the national average. Why is that? Because they're the dumbest people? There was an ad from Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the disgraceful governor of Arkansas, the other day, that was like attacking young white men for being welfare queens. Okay. Maybe that's true. Love to see the numbers on that. But maybe don't do that. Maybe don't do that. Maybe don't pick on people on the basis of their ethnicity, just because it's socially allowed? No, that's called bigotry,

• 53:32Tucker Carlson?

  and it's disgusting. Don't attack people for being Muslim. Doesn't make you a Muslim lover to say something like that. It just makes you an upholder of the standard that separates the West from the rest of the uncivilized world, which is universal standards, applied to the individual and not the group. Identity politics is always wrong. Always. And also, as noted, it's completely tiresome. And people get exactly what's going on. When you lecture them for two years about how antisemitism is the main scourge we're fighting, that lecture begins with people nodding and being like, yeah, antisemitism is bad. Like, I'm against that. And it ends with deep cynicism. Deep cynicism. Because people inevitably ask,

• 54:17Tucker Carlson?

  like, wait a second. There's a lot of different kinds of discrimination in this country. Why are you only focused on one? Oh, because that's the one your donors care about? And by the way, why is it that a lot of people complaining about antisemitism have been the leaders in anti-white discrimination? The ADL, for example. The ADL has abetted anti-white discrimination, has demanded anti-white discrimination, oh, for just like 50 years. And then at the same time, has the gall to lecture the rest of us about antisemitism? And it's like, yeah, antisemitism is terrible. It's every bit as terrible as anti-white racism. But you're only against one of them. So get off the stage. Get away. You're not for real. You're pushing a group interest in a country with many groups. And that cannot

• 55:00Tucker Carlson?

  be allowed. But they did allow it. And by the way, because they did allow it, it's going to continue. Because they didn't draw a line in the sand. And say, this is the country that we claimed cared about race-blind judgment of the individual and not the group. They didn't do that. And so the Democratic Party, which has no qualms at all about discriminating on the basis of race, in fact, that's kind of the basis of the modern party, is discriminating against white men. Why? Because white men don't vote Democrat. That's why. And they know that. And so there has already been, like, within an hour of the election results

• 55:38Tucker Carlson?

  yesterday, already been, like, signs that people are blaming the loss in various races on the race of the candidate. Well, they ran white guys. Here's the instant TV analysis of Mike Rogers' loss last night. Watch.

• 55:55Speaker 07

  And I'm just going to say it, it's because Mike Rogers is a boring white guy. He is not asked to condemn things in the way that anybody who disagrees is, and it is a horrible double standard.

• 56:06Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah. So imagine if she got up and said, you know, he lost, he's a Jew. He's black. I mean, look, that would not be acceptable. And it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be acceptable. But it's totally acceptable. She's like a white guy. Shut up, honey. You can't talk like that in my country. You don't have the right to talk like that. Nobody does. And unless we say that, it's going to intensely increase. Intensely. You thought the Biden era was hard on white guys? The suicide rate goes up, the employment rate goes down. I mean, these are the results of government policies. Of course. There's no free market in the United States. When you see the unemployment rate for young white men is twice the national

• 56:48Tucker Carlson?

  average, a little less, but almost twice, it's not an accident. That's the result of policies meant to hurt that group. Period. So if you think it's bad now, so the rest of us, regardless of party, have to just draw the line that the Trump administration didn't draw, and just say, no mas. The other thing that any party looking to win the votes of young men, and not just young white men, but just young men, black, Hispanic, anybody, Asian, is remember that, you know, there's a gender element to politics, always, especially in a binary system. You've got two parties. So inevitably, one's going to be the male party, and one's going to be the female party. You're going to have the dad party and the

• 57:32Tucker Carlson?

  mom party. Like, why wouldn't there be that? And the Republican Party in the last few years has really scrambled that binary, as they say. I mean, it's kind of become non-binary in a weird way. And so there are a whole bunch of different races where you look at the people in the races. And of course, of course, the Republicans are going to be more masculine. The Republican Party is the party of restraint and vigor and, you know, fair play and the individual over the group. Like, it's the dad party, obviously, always has been. But you look at some of these races, and you're like, wait a second. Who's the dad exactly? That Abdul al-Sayed guy, now the senator for Michigan. Compare him to

• 58:17Tucker Carlson?

  Mike Rogers. Like, who's the man in that scenario? Seriously, who's the man? Well, obviously, again, saying this to someone who does not agree with al-Sayed on a whole bunch of things, never endorsed him despite, despite the lies. It's obviously him. I mean, Mike Rogers is just like another classic beta who loves war because he feels weak. And so it became really clear that it's not just Mike Rogers, who is a particularly disgraceful example, but he's hardly alone. I mean, it really is the party of closeted gay men who are like unhappy with themselves, and sort of only feel strong and alive when they're

• 58:59Tucker Carlson?

  killing villagers in the Middle East. I mean, there's some truth in that, actually. And the closer you get to it, particularly the US Senate, the more time you spend with these people, the more you're like, actually, that's not just a slur. Like, that's kind of real. And but you don't have to be close to it to see it. And that's kind of the point. So like, young men are not going to vote for that. And I think a lot of men who voted for Trump two years ago imagined that this was a masculine, vigorous leader. But then, you know, you spend some time watching him, and what do you see here? Here's a guy who's vain and venal and indecisive. He's dancing to YMCA?

• 59:42Tucker Carlson?

  Wait a second. He kinda seems a little bit more like a bitchy old woman than an alpha male. I mean, actually, constantly talking about himself. Every slight he catalogs, well, I remember the time that you said, it's like, wait a second, this is the man? By the way, let's dance to YMCA with Lindsey Graham. Not calling him gay or anything, but like, what is that? I'll tell you what it is. It's not appealing to men because it's not masculine. It's, it's, it's not masculine. We'll just say that at all. And so you're thinking like, are we imagining this? Has the dad party gone a little trans on us here? Maybe a little bit?

• 1:00:26Tucker Carlson?

  And then you see the guy they trot out, and they, meaning like the whole apparatus from, you know, TPUSA to Fox News, like the whole get out the vote apparatus on the Republican side, which is nothing with the RNC, like they barely even exist. To get out the vote is Fox News and TPUSA. And so who's the, who is the face of this campaign? Now, this is real. It was this guy. Watch.

• 1:00:51Speaker 07

  Hey, everybody. This is Scott Pressler. I'm here with Davis and Brandon of Turning Point Action. Now, we just wrapped up in high-energy, electric event here in Manchester. And so after the event, we're knocking on doors, making sure that everybody is coming out to vote for our Republican candidates. And Davis, who was running for the United States Senate here in New Hampshire? Johnny Sununu. And who do we have for Congress here, Brandon, in this district? We have Anthony Di Lorenzo. So, New Hampshire, I stopped what I was doing in Pennsylvania, coming to your state because I believe in you. Make a plane to vote by Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026. Game on.

• 1:01:34Tucker Carlson?

  We're so conservative that we're gonna send a transvestite to your house. We're gonna do that. That's how right wing we are. We're gonna send a trainee right to your house. Okay, now, the best line is, I was so excited about New Hampshire that I stopped what I was doing in Pennsylvania. And your first thought is, what were you doing in Pennsylvania?

• 1:01:54Tucker Carlson?

  Do we even wanna know? Like, who's the audience for this?

• 1:02:01Tucker Carlson?

  Like, young men, look at this. And they're like, are you kidding? Like, what? No. Like, no, no. Meanwhile, Graham Plathner, who we've been reliably informed was a Nazi from Maine, was not allowed to compete because he's a Nazi rapist. Okay. Graham Plathner's like out there caught on video the other day by the New York Post. Whatever happened to Graham Plathner? So they send this like highly effeminate kind of bitchy New York Post reporter, the conservative, and he catches Graham Plathner coming in from actual oyster farming, like alone, wearing boots. And Graham Plathner's like, get out of my face. Graham Plathner's like, you're gonna kill him. It's whatever you think of Graham Plathner, like, you don't have to agree. I don't agree with everything Graham Plathner says. But like, who's dad there? Is it the right-wing New York Post? Is it the guy who just came from Pennsylvania

• 1:02:46Tucker Carlson?

  because I'm so excited about New Hampshire? Woohoo! I'm gonna come to your house. Get the hell out of my house. Or is it Graham Plathner? It's like tossing an unfiltered camel into the, get out of my face, you know? Right? So like, people experience politics as they experience life, like on a pre-verbal level. Like, who's in charge? Who's dad? Who's decisive? Who's not making everything about himself? Men don't make everything about themselves. They don't whine all the time. Oh, he was mean to me once. Shut up, woman.

• 1:03:16Tucker Carlson?

  Stop, stop. Someone needs to stop the Republican Party from acting like that. Okay? Mitch McConnell is gone. You don't have to act like a nasty old woman anymore. And if you continue to, no man are gonna vote for you. I mean, a year ago, if you'd done a survey, just like people you know, like, what married man, like, straight man is voting for the Democratic Party? Like, actually? Like, how much do you hate yourself? If you're voting for the Democrat, you're a man. Like, wake up, son. You don't have to vote Republican, maybe disagree with the vote. You're not gonna vote for the party of like angry women, are you really? And most didn't. But you start doing stuff like this, doing the YMCA, talking about yourself all the time, being a bitchy old woman? Yeah, of course, people are gonna vote for the other

• 1:04:01Tucker Carlson?

  side. Regardless of the policies, duh. And the last point to make, just to sort of wrap up, because it's important to say it out loud, why did the Republicans lose yesterday? Why is the party just decimated yesterday? Because corruption. Because corruption is a species of the syndrome. It's part of the problem we've been describing, which is a series of double standards that put you below the people in charge. It's another way of saying we don't care about you. Like, you have to follow the rules. And if you disagree, of course, there's a flock camera watching to make sure that you follow all the rules, but we can do whatever we want. And that's been just incredibly obvious. And the Democrats, of course, are gonna be like, oh, we're against corruption. They don't wanna talk about the

• 1:04:46Tucker Carlson?

  war because they were for the war. Chuck Schumer was every bit as much for regime change in Iran as Donald Trump. In fact, probably more. Trump did it, not Schumer, but Schumer didn't constrain him and hasn't constrained him. Democrats have not constrained Trump. So they don't wanna talk about the war, obviously. Not in a meaningful way at all. Their voters may, their voters probably do, but the leaders don't. So you're gonna talk about corruption. So what are they gonna do about it? What are they gonna do about it? Well, they're, you know exactly what they're gonna do. They're gonna go to tons of hearings, they're gonna make lots of noises about Trump and the Trump family. Then they're gonna wreck the lives of some pretty junior people. But how do you think Jared Kushner's gonna do at the end of that process? Jared Kushner, who, I don't know, remember when

• 1:05:29Tucker Carlson?

  he got into the White House, 2017? Basically, effectively, the chief of staff and his family had this building at 666 Fifth Avenue because like, you can't make any of this up. It was literally 666 Fifth Avenue. And they were like $1.8 billion underwater in this building? Couldn't sell it. And then like, you know, year in, with the help of our Middle Eastern allies, like, they offload the building. And then he begins the peace process, the Abraham Accords, which you may not have heard, but brought peace to the Middle East. Are you aware of that? We've got peace in the Middle East because of the Abraham Accords. But during the course of negotiating those accords, he somehow raised billions of dollars for his own fund and then didn't deploy it for a long time, just kinda taking the fees on it. Totally up and up. So he's like, the head US negotiator trying to like avert nuclear

• 1:06:14Tucker Carlson?

  war and represent American interests in the region, and not just that region, but also Eastern Europe, the Russia-Ukraine war. But he's also raising money for his own fund? Not saying that's corruption, but should we take a close look at that? I mean, has anything like that ever happened? And do you think he'll be punished for that? What do you think the chances that Howard Lutnick is gonna be punished? Would you put them at zero or below zero? Probably in that range, right? Same with Jared Kushner. But what you can be certain of is that some guy who showed up in DC, or more likely, some girl who showed up in DC, like, I love Donald Trump, I wanna work at the White House. And they do. And next thing you know, you watch this happen, and the next year, they're gonna be in the front page of the Washington Post, five days in a row, and they've turned on the administration,

• 1:06:59Tucker Carlson?

  and their lives will be completely destroyed, completely destroyed. Some of them go to jail.

• 1:07:04Tucker Carlson?

  But like Jared Kushner, Howard Lutnick, both of whom are Democrats, by the way, actually. How are they gonna do? I think they'll be fine. Just, just a guess, just a guess. So the moment at which the rest of us realized that, and some of us took a long, long time to realize this, I'll admit it, that this, there's like actual corruption going on in this administration was last summer, it was in July, and it was when the Epstein files resurfaced as an issue. And this is kind of underrated, I think, as one of the causes for yesterday's disaster. The Epstein files revealed, not simply that there was, you know, clearly something very, very dark going on with this group of people who have a ton

• 1:07:45Tucker Carlson?

  of power, but that the people currently in power, who were elected to expose those people who had power, were also part of the same group, that they were actually members in good standing of the Epstein class. And if they weren't, then why didn't they declassify the files? So a lot of us are a little slow to pick up on this, really slow, because it was so shocking. But it began to become clear that hidden architecture began to surface at this moment. This is during a cabinet meeting last summer. Watch.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  So could you resolve whether or not he did? And also, could you say why there's a minute missing from the jailhouse tape on the United States?

• 1:08:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, sure. Can I just interrupt for a second? Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you wanna waste the time? And do you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we're having some of the greatest success and, and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.

• 1:09:02Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, it's a desecration. And what was happening in Texas last summer? Can't even remember, of course. But what's interesting is that no one in the meeting said, hey, don't talk like that. I don't care, you're the president. Don't patronize people. Like, don't you dare speak to me that way. You're, you're getting high-handed with me because I asked a legitimate question about crimes that were committed, and you're not revealing what those were, who committed them? And by the way, it's not about Epstein, because he's dead. And by the way, were you aware that he was murdered in federal lockup during your administration with the knowledge of your attorney general? Like, answer some questions there. No one's ever even asked that. But how dare you whip around and try and make me feel guilty for asking a question about a justice system that we own, that you administer

• 1:09:46Tucker Carlson?

  at our request, with our permission and our votes? Like, how dare you? Shut up, old man, and answer the question. And it's like, that didn't occur to anybody, because people are so cowed and cucked and pathetic. They're like, okay, sorry, didn't mean to ask about the molestation of children. Like, who would put up with that? Well, all of us, actually. And the Democrats, do you think, there are apparently 2 million at least? We don't know. I don't know. But that is the number that I've been told, and I think it's been reported, about 2 million remaining Epstein files, including the ones that bookend 9/11, which would be really interesting to see. We have a right to see, and they belong to us. They're

• 1:10:29Tucker Carlson?

  public property. Will the Democrats compel their release? That'd be really interesting.

• 1:10:36Tucker Carlson?

  Let's just make it really clear. This is not an attack. Look...

• 1:10:40Tucker Carlson?

  The Republicans deserve to lose. So this is not a defense of the Republicans in any way. But if you demand something from the Republicans, you are under moral obligation to demand exactly the same thing from the Democrats. That's corruption. Hiding that is corruption. Corruption is a set of standards that do not apply equally to people. There's one standard for you because you have power, you're in the right group, you're the right ethnicity, or whatever, you're special, and the rest of us have a whole separate set of rules that apply only to us. That is corruption. That's the definition of corruption. And the Epstein files are the clearest window into it. And it's not maybe strictly speaking financial corruption, but all corruption is the same thematically.

• 1:11:26Tucker Carlson?

  So if you're against corruption in one administration, you have to be against it in the next. Will the Democrats compel the release of all the Epstein files, no matter what they say?

• 1:11:35Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, that's the acid test. We'll find out. And if they won't, then I mean, it's time for, it's time for real reform. So Christianity began thousands of years ago in what we call the Holy Land. But today, some people would like Christianity to die there. We're talking about the Israeli settler movement, extremist, violent, dangerous, and very anti-Christian, also supported at the highest levels of the US and Israeli governments. American taxpayers literally pay for Israeli settlers to murder Christians and Americans and attack them. And the Senate, for example, goes out of its way to pretend it's not happening. Senators just voted against disclosure on the killings of nine Americans in the West Bank. Probably the Senate represents you.

• 1:12:21Tucker Carlson?

  Talking about you, Rick Scott of Florida, and many more like you. Well, the Vulnerable People Project is fighting to end these atrocities. The Vulnerable People Project is a Christian movement, sincerely a Christian movement, nonviolent, Jesus-focused, that seeks to build a safe home for Christian children in the Holy Land, a place where they will not get attacked and murdered by Israeli terrorists supported by the US Senate. The Catholic pastor in the last all-Christian town in the West Bank has a very simple plan. Create a children's center called Kids Kingdom. It's a place for kids to play, make friends, learn the Bible, and grow in their Christian faith. This shows listeners can make all of that happen. So

• 1:13:03Tucker Carlson?

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• 1:13:35Tucker Carlson?

  We could go on forever, but we won't because we have a guest who's got a much more precise understanding, it was the actual numbers, the data, as we say in the politics business, about what happened yesterday. And he is one of the rare pollsters we trust, who we think is coming from an honest place and is committed to just being straight about what's happening. His name is Rich Baris. He's joined us before. Rich, thanks so much for doing this.

• 1:13:58Speaker 07

  Thanks for having me back, Tucker. It's good to be here. So that happened.

• 1:14:01Tucker Carlson?

  So that, yes, that happened. So one of the reasons it happened, there was the war, and the war was directly related to the second reason, which was the Trump administration from the first week, from January 2025, made this about identity politics. We're here to protect Jewish Americans from persecution because the greatest threat this country faces, the head of the Civil Rights Division has said this, the head of the FBI, the head of DOJ, everybody, antisemitism is America's biggest problem. And so they sort of weaponized the entire government in this JLM movement to protect Jewish Americans, which by the way, I'm for protecting Jewish Americans and all Americans. But I just wonder if that effort was reflected in yesterday's vote totals. Like, tell us about that.

• 1:14:44Speaker 07

  Well, if that was the goal, then that was the most unwise move I've ever seen in politics, because this coalition that Trump put together, and I've said it a million times, you just said it too, this is not a typical Republican coalition. This was a younger, less white coalition, and it had the potential to govern for 30 years, Tucker. And you know, the right's panning on and on for how many years now throughout the Obama era, we gotta save the country, the country's going down the tube. So they get together this coalition that can do that for 30 years, and they blow it up for 2% of the population, even if we assume, even if for a second, we assume that that entire 2% of the population agrees with that agenda, which by the way, they don't, and we can get into, right? Even

• 1:15:29Speaker 07

  if we assume that, though, that would be basically the most mentally stunted political maneuver ever in the history of politics. I mean, this was, I'm not sure people have fully come to appreciate what was given up last night yet. You brought some of it up, but so much more than that. I'll be 55 before Republicans have a real shot at winning the Senate again. 55 years old. My youngest son, which I have two older kids, my little one's my midlife crisis baby, he'll be the age of my oldest son now, who's getting ready to go away to college next year, and he's seven. That's how much damage was done to

• 1:16:09Speaker 07

  Republicans' prospects of saving the country in the name of this agenda. And it's funny because again, I'm looking at the exit polls, going over the exit polls, it looks just like our pre-election polling, which we were attacked for, for nine months, you know, for, and we came on your show after a mass he was defeated, they clipped all these little clips of me, and we talked about the Epstein class. That is what they ran on. It was literally called the Epstein class. And it was this idea that Republicans promised to hold the rich accountable and to not forget about the little guy and never start a new war in the Middle East. But what did they do? They covered for the Epstein class, they started a new war in the Middle East, and they forgot about the forgotten man. And

• 1:16:50Speaker 07

  how much did, how much of doing all of that, how much gain did they make with the Jewish vote? Nationally, they gained about eight points from 2024. That's it. Eight points of 2%. So congratulations. And in, in return for that, you blew up all your young men, you slid all the way back to the Obama era with, with Hispanic voters, you backslid even more than that in Texas. Talarico stomped Paxton into the ground, you know, worse than Hillary Clinton did in some of these counties, which Trump later flipped. This will take, this is generational damage. And by the way, the census is coming up in 2030, which should

• 1:17:31Speaker 07

  have been used by the right to ask the citizenship question, which would have locked Democrats out of the House and the Electoral College for roughly 30 years. But that's not going to happen now. The Democrats are gonna, because of the stump, it's kind of a half sun, you know, with redistricting, that, that redistricting war that they barely won, they'll get payback for that. And now they're gonna do it to the right. And this is what happens all the time. The right plays this game of chicken, Tucker. They prioritize these stupid things. The left is happy to play it because they know it's not really a game of chicken. The right's gonna swerve. And that's what happened here. And, you know, all these governorships, there's real consequences for that in 28, real consequences. A governor in a battleground

• 1:18:14Speaker 07

  state can make sure you don't win that battleground state. That's just a practical reality.

• 1:18:19Tucker Carlson?

  So it's like Trump destroyed, single-handedly destroyed in a year, this, the most promising nationalist coalition assembled, certainly in our lifetimes. Hard to see that as an accident. It seems systematic, it seems on purpose, it seems like that was the actual agenda, is you can't have a multiracial coalition, people who can't be inspired to have a race war, which is always their move, just have a race war, like, forget that we're looting everything, who just like care about the country. And that couldn't continue. So Trump was the instrument to destroy it. That's how I read it.

• 1:18:52Speaker 07

  Look at a state like Michigan, we're talking about, you know, this multiracial coalition. He actually did better in Michigan than he did in Wisconsin in 24, because Michigan is so more multiracial, right? And Wisconsin's whiter and more rural, and Michigan has, has Hispanic vote, it has a black vote, it's got an Arab vote, it's got a Jewish vote. And Trump managed to raise all of his vote shares all at once, Tucker, which is quite defeat. I actually think it's more impressive than Reagan. Reagan won, of course, many more states. But it was much easier to win in a landslide like that in 1980, even 1984, than it was to do what Donald Trump did in the year 2024. But that is, the warnings are over. That

• 1:19:34Speaker 07

  is what Republicans need to come to understand to really be able to grasp the depth of this setback. Look at what happened to the country between 1984 and 2024. How much more damage in the demographic clock do you think will run up by the time you get your next shot? Right? It's gonna be that much harder. It was the absolute worst time to blow the coalition up because he got it right as a hail Mary. We're at a point where we're reaching a tipping point, and if Republicans didn't start to win more than Hispanic vote, do a little bit better with the black vote, you know, and clawback some of the suburban white vote, then they weren't even going to be a serious national political party. And that's where Trump found the Republican Party, right? You gotta give him credit for that. He resurrected

• 1:20:18Speaker 07

  it like Jesus resurrected Lazarus from the tomb, and he brought it back to life. But at the other hand of that, last night was the most, it is the destruction of the Republican Party, as we know, has to be completely rebuilt. It's the worst defeat for an incumbent party since Watergate. We should probably take a second and reflect on how that could have happened. Yeah. And it's not hard, Tucker, it's not. It did start with Epstein, and that laid the foundation. And people started asking themselves, what's going on? What's happening here? I'm not sure I like, you know, I'm getting a little whiff of something. I'm not sure I like it. And then Operation Midnight Hammer, that very next week, they lost their lead on the generic ballot. It never came back. Trump's approval just continued

• 1:21:01Speaker 07

  to go negative. And then he went full kinetic war, and that was a wrap. That is, that is way beyond read my lips, no new taxes. Remember that? Which ended up in the fracture of the Ross Perot coalition, which took eight years to put the Republican Party back together. I mean, this is, this is another level.

• 1:21:19Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, domestically, they never stopped lecturing us about antisemitism in the way that the Biden people never stopped lecturing us about how whites were bad. Kamala Harris never stopped lecturing us, Biden is whites are bad, whites are bad, whites are, okay, got it, you hate whites. Yeah. How dare you, by the way? The Trump people never stop telling you that the main problem in the country is antisemitism. And I kept waiting for like, okay, well, what, okay, show me how. I haven't actually seen really any antisemitism in my life, but whatever, it was apparently all there. How Jewish voters didn't flock to the Republican Party, they didn't feel protected and loved? So it was a movement of eight points. What percentage of Jewish voters, according to exit polling, voted Republican yesterday?

• 1:21:56Speaker 07

  Uh, about 30%.

• 1:21:59Tucker Carlson?

  No, come on.

• 1:22:00Speaker 07

  And they usually win. No, I'm not kidding. I actually have it right here. It is, and by the way, Michigan is laughable. Uh, Democrats won 68%. Democrats won 31 nationally in Michigan, where they made this huge play. Abdul El Sayed, he's a Muslim and he's a socialist Muslim. Well, you should have just left socialist out of it because let me tell you a little secret. American Jews are leftists, hardcore leftists. They're among the most hardcore leftists and they're also the single, when it comes to religious demographics, no religious demo outside of American Jews opposed the Iran war more. Not Catholics, not Protestants, mainline Protestants, evangelical Protestants, none. They were the most opposed to the Iran war.

• 1:22:45Speaker 07

  They don't particularly like Benjamin Netanyahu. This is another thing. We have this faction on the right.

• 1:22:50Tucker Carlson?

  I'm sorry, I'm just letting that.

• 1:22:51Speaker 07

  I know.

• 1:22:52Tucker Carlson?

  I'm letting that penetrate. That, well, good, good, let me just say, good for them for opposing it because the war is wrong and it hurts the United States, but that's amazing. You would not know that. If you watch Fox News, which I don't, but I see the clips occasionally, it's like, if you're against this war, you hate Jews, but you're saying Jews dislike this war more than any group?

• 1:23:11Speaker 07

  More than any group, and there's more, there's more. Let's look at in Michigan, which I just brought up, Abdul El Sayed. Um, look, he won 60% of the Jewish vote. Mike Rogers did win 38, which is of course still a loss. About 5% left their ballots blank. We've been looking at this all day. Uh, they just threw their vote away, which means they really didn't like either one. Maybe they did, they weren't comfortable with Abdul El Sayed for whatever reason, we can speculate on that, but they still were not ready to take the leap and vote for a deep state Republican like Mike Rogers. And I'm not surprised at all by that. This is a longstanding vote pattern, not just for, uh, American Jews in, in Michigan, but elsewhere. I mean, they are left wing. They would, if, if there weren't the other questions about El Sayed, his policy platform is right up their alley.

• 1:23:56Speaker 07

  They would love it. They voted for Barack Obama overwhelmingly, even though Sean Hannity and Fox News and everybody else, Mark Levin and the rest of them tried painting Barack Obama as a Muslim for eight years, right? And Muslim socialist, by the way, for eight years. And he won Michigan by 12 once and six the next time. If you look though, and how much, how many votes did that even net Rogers to do this? To blow all of this up? It's, it's statistically insignificant, so you have to look by precincts. Okay. I'm serious. You can't go through the exit polls because it's not a big enough sample. But if you look at the 70 plus precincts, it's actually a little bit misleading.

• 1:24:34Speaker 07

  Basically there was a 1.2% shift towards Mike Rogers from Alyssa Slotkin in 2024. That's it. And in exchange for that, El, uh, of course, El Sayed, he had a great ad actually about his faith. He didn't make it about being a Muslim. Uh, he crushed it in Dearborn, which more than, more, more than overwhelmed whatever little, you know, puny, puny little, uh, gain he made among Rogers, made among American Jews. In Dearborn, which Trump won just two years ago, he won about 45, 38 and the rest, again, threw their votes to lower ballot people, they weren't ready to vote Republican, but it was still a feat nonetheless for Donald Trump.

• 1:25:16Speaker 07

  This time, however, they voted over 80% for El Sayed and Mike Rogers got, I think it's, Tucker, I think it's like 17%. It's like, yeah, I mean, it's, it's nothing. It's absolutely nothing. So was it worth it? Because that's not the only group that you gave up for this. And it's also again, worth noting that we've been lectured over and over again by the faction, the neocon faction about antisemitism, when in truth, we can all stop now pretending with these numbers that I just rattled off, we can all stop pretending that they speak for American Jews. They do not. The Mark Levens, the Ben Shapiro's, and I'm not picking on anybody, it's just a fact. They're a small faction, a small minority.

• 1:25:58Speaker 07

  They're the fringe when you compare them and their views against other American Jews. They're, they are not the majority. Their, their viewpoints do not represent the majority of American Jews. They're not even popular among them. So to sit up there and pretend you're the arbiter of who, who is and who isn't antisemitic, based on whether or not you support for, uh, foreign aid to a, a country or a war, the whole thing is ludicrous. And in exchange for this silly little debate, you blew up your reputation, your brand with these millennial and Gen Z voters. And that really is the danger here because we're entering a new place in politics. A lot of people didn't believe me that this wave would be this big, which I've been calling for a while.

• 1:26:42Speaker 07

  And they didn't because they believed, well, Trump just won these states by 13 plus, uh, you know, Ohio, Iowa and the rest of them. They can't possibly swing that much, but they can, when you realize that we're outside of the era of partisanship and we're outside of the era of ideology. We're now in a transactional age here. When voters vote for you, they're going to demand something. The era of performative politics is over and people just didn't let that sink in. They just couldn't grasp that, including Republicans. Democrats will probably wind up learning that lesson too. If they don't, if they don't deliver here, then they're going to be held to account. The problem is, you know, it's like you said, what does that even mean? If Republican, if a Republican candidate was to go on and win 400 plus electoral votes

• 1:27:26Speaker 07

  in 28, because Democrats overreact so bad, my response to that is so what? The Senate will still be in Democratic control. The clock keeps ticking. You really blew it here. I mean, you, you gave up a golden opportunity, opportunity that people who do what I do kind of saw as a God wink. You know, like God has given you one more chance. Fix it. Right the ship. And it's funny because I didn't even appreciate it until later, speaking to all of these young men and all these voters who were just so depressed, Tucker. As a pollster, I've never heard suicidal ideations before. You know, people, I mean, these, these people were, they were in despair. And when you give people hope, desperate people, hope, and then you rug pull it from

• 1:28:11Speaker 07

  them, you just take it from them and you say, you know what? I never meant it. Because that's what you say when you go to social media and you say, if you care about this, I don't want your support anymore. If, if you don't like the bombing of Iran, well, get this, Myga. When you do that, and then you, you're twisting the knife, you already stripped them of their hope, you took it from them, and then you twisted the knife on them. They were going to punish you and they punished you bad. And you know what? We deserved it. We deserved every single bit of it. Haven't lost Kansas in a hundred years. Good job. Good job. I mean, that's real, there really is nothing else to say. The results speak for themselves. They made their voices loud and clear.

• 1:28:51Tucker Carlson?

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• 1:29:33Tucker Carlson?

  Visit defendcellcam.com/workforce to learn more about this. Apply or nominate a Blue Collar Scholar yourself. And if you're picking a camera, use the code TUCKER to save 20%. Who, who did this? I mean, I know, I mean, there's the political team at the White House, James Blair and the rest, hope obviously none of them ever work again. Um, but, and there's Trump, obviously, but like, who was behind the idea that you spend the entire two years screaming at everyone else about antisemitism and basically ignore their priorities, let them die, which is what they've done, and allow anti-white hate to go completely unchecked, unrestrained, which they have done, and focus on this thing

• 1:30:15Tucker Carlson?

  that's not even really real, and then use that to avoid criticism for something that everybody hates, which is an Iran war. Like who came up with that plan? Whose idea was that?

• 1:30:24Speaker 07

  You know, all day long, I've been asking me, well, Rich, now what do we do? What do we do now? Okay, you were right. I'm sorry. What do we do? Well, it's not a matter of apologies. First of all, I can't even answer that until you deal with two problems. The right has two problems. One is they have a tremendous, like a paid grifter and foreign agent problem. And I mean, it's a real issue, Tucker. We just don't see this on the left. Maybe it's there and it hasn't butted up against the base yet, or what their voting constituency wanted, so it hasn't been exposed. But the right is different because with MAGA and all new movements come new people. And a lot of these people were, you know, noobs, right? For lack of a better word, they're not really experienced in the political field.

• 1:31:07Speaker 07

  So it was easy to kind of mark some of these people and, and make them, uh, bad faith actors. And then I really think we can't step over this without the, the, you know, without addressing the loss of Charlie. There were people on their way out of this thing. Uh, Donald Trump, the America First Movement had pushed out the old guard and put, and then neoconservatism never really had a new constituency down the barrel, ready to fire off so they could replenish their numbers when these boomers go. But there are some voices that were, you know, dying, waning in influence and their influence was dying and their audiences were dropping off. I, I happen to be remiss if I didn't say this, they, they took Charlie's death as an

• 1:31:50Speaker 07

  opportunity to, they exploited his death as an opportunity to resurrect their failing careers and their waiting influence.

• 1:32:01Speaker 07

  They got the microphone and that was a brand switch on the American voter and we were put all of a sudden, we saw all of these faces that represented the right that made being Republican cool again in 24. It switched from that to some to the to the old again? And I think it confused just as marketing tactic. It just confused the American voter. And as they're watching all these policies play out that they didn't vote for and they're looking at all their spokesman lecturing everybody about things you can or cannot say, policies you can or cannot support, which by the way, they just rejected that worldview in 24 that they thought came from Democrats. And it was more than confusing. They thought they got hoodwinked and they just vomited it out. They just regurgitated it. And every

• 1:32:46Speaker 07

  day, uh, you know, in the polling, we hear the same thing over and over again. It's not hard. You know, this was, uh, the biggest rug pull of, of all, all time, modern history at least.

• 1:32:56Tucker Carlson?

  So if you wanted to end the nationalist movement in the United States, if you found, if you, it was a threat, like one of the first things you would do is take out TPUSA, which was a counterbalance to the neo commons and take out Charlie, literally, I guess, take him out. Uh, and then just expel anybody who sort of remembered what you'd run on a year ago, like Massey or Marjorie Taylor Greene. And, and then you would do this, you would, you would have election results that basically made it impossible to ever have immigration restrictionism or an American centered foreign policy.

• 1:33:32Speaker 07

  And that would also help with one other thing you'd want to do, which is diminish the vice president's chances of running for president in 2028. Let's just call it what it is. And this is the status part about this. I mean, you guys, um, sitting at home, I mean, all I do are think about these numbers all day. There's not another person on the bench, at least on that side that, you know, is a, I mean, there could be dark horses, sure, that always rise and, and well, you know, we could be talking about them six months from now or now, or a year from now. But in looking at the field as it stands right now, there is nobody who can win the Rust Belt other than the vice president. And it's just because of his policy positions and his, is, it's just an attitudinal appeal that you need for that region of the country. And Republicans absolutely suck at doing it.

• 1:34:17Speaker 07

  They can't do it. I don't know why anyone thought Mike Rogers was going to win Michigan is a great example of what I'm talking about. They haven't won that, uh, that state for US Senate since 1994, which was the Republican revolution, basically the reverse of what we witnessed last night, when all of America's a battleground and you're getting wiped out all up and down the mat. It was favorable to Republicans that year. They lost it the very next cycle anyway, in 2000, when George W. Bush actually won the presidency. They still lost it to Debbie Stabenow, who retired not too long ago. She held that seat the entire time. Before that, you had to go back to 1972 to find a year when Republicans won a US Senate seat in Michigan. It's very, very difficult. And Republicans in their

• 1:34:58Speaker 07

  infinite hubris, it looked at what Trump did, the Trump Vance ticket and thought, oh, this is always going to be ours. And they squandered it. They, they took it for granted. They took the voters themselves for granted. And then they tried to use the word, it is the perfect word. They tried to browbeat everybody else who didn't agree with this little switch, this little switcheroo. The problem is you can't browbeat a majority. You had a 1.5% national popular vote victory. You did not have some eight to 12 point, you know, kind of, uh, um, you know, Barack Obama or, uh, Richard Nixon level margin. It's like, they acted as if they had coalition to squander and they didn't. And now they

• 1:35:43Speaker 07

  just found out the hard way. It's got, and, and again, like somebody like a, a Marco Rubio or something, I just find that absolutely laughable. Marco Rubio has zero chance to win the US presidency. He can't win Michigan. He can't win Pennsylvania. He can't win, uh, Wisconsin. And that's what all of this is about, which is what you just, you know, we're talking about. Uh, so that's the end of that. I, I, I am, I have doubts he could even win Ohio.

• 1:36:04Tucker Carlson?

  Well, I mean, and this is before anyone has taken a close look at the oil contracts being handed out in Venezuela, right? Which he is doing. So

• 1:36:12Speaker 07

  Amongst other things.

• 1:36:13Tucker Carlson?

  Among many other things. So like, no, it's going to be a different world in a year. I'm against witch hunts. I know for a fact, or I can anticipate, I believe, that innocent people or not very guilty people are going to get destroyed. Jared Kushner will never be punished, obviously. Howard Lutnick will never be punished, obviously. So, you know, there are downsides, but we're going to learn a lot about what's been happening and some of it is bad. It's just bad. I know that. So, um, I think it's even darker maybe than, than you're, than you're saying. Again, to the question of who did it and the people responsible for this. So it was the ideologues, obviously, the donors, clearly, you know, Levin and Marianne Madelson and Paul Singer and, you know, the usuals. But also the people

• 1:36:58Tucker Carlson?

  within the political staff at the White House, like, are their careers over? I mean, can the Republican Party say enough? Like you, you, you already wrecked everything. You can't participate going forward?

• 1:37:08Speaker 07

  Yeah, this is interesting. I mean, it's, it's almost 24 hours now since, you know, the first polls started to close that really indicated things were really bad. And, uh, I'm not surprised that people haven't been fired already, but, you know, I can't help, and I couldn't have all day today, think that the, the, the Donald Trump from the first administration, Trump 1.0, would not have let 24 hours go without firing the people who mismanaged a billion dollar fund. Right? And these people got generational wealth, burning MAGA to the ground. But, and this goes all the way back to, you know, guy, I know there's some stuff there that's obviously personal with the, the president, but, you

• 1:37:50Speaker 07

  know, going after Mac Massey, there's the revenge of Massey all over the ticket, all over the country, guys. Go look at the maps. You'll see it. Libertarian getting three to 5% here, the independent candidate getting, you know, a point or two points here. You manage a billion dollar fund and you don't know that going after a leg of your coalition is going to cost you a, a significant chunk of the vote. And speaking of Charlie, I was never a huge fan of Thomas Massey. And I only recently, very recently, ever got a chance to even speak to the man. He seemed like a nice enough man, but I wasn't a fan of this. And Charlie used to say, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, Matt, we need Massey. He's a vital part of the coalition. And Charlie was right. Look at the map. Look at the map.

• 1:38:32Speaker 07

  If you don't keep these factions together, that's what happens. I mean, there's significant shares all over the place. Uh, by the way, Massey's own district, Ed Galrin put up the worst performance for any Republican since I believe 2006. I was tracking that last night. It was a pathetic, uh, you know, uh, uh, performance for that district. And this is something Massey used to routinely win with 60 plus percent of the vote, 70% of the vote. And the guy was in the 50s last night, Tucker. It was humiliating.

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• 1:40:28Tucker Carlson?

  the Pentagon has told American military bases to operate independently for 90 days without outside electricity, water or fuel. In other words, they don't trust utilities in this country.

• 1:40:40Tucker Carlson?

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• 1:41:21Tucker Carlson?

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• 1:41:41Speaker 07

  Well, look, I mean, it's not even an attack. It's just true. You know, Chris LaCivita and company, they made a lot of money. I mean, people made a lot of money. And it's not, this is how it goes in politics.

• 1:41:51Tucker Carlson?

  But why, what, so Chris LaCivita, like, what are his talents exactly? I mean, I know that he threatens people a lot, including me, but what, like, what is he good at exactly?

• 1:42:00Speaker 07

  Look, I mean, he got on to the 24 campaign after not really supporting the president in 2020. I'm not sure how that even happened. I don't know the guy. But, you know, I mean, he runs part of the pack. I know he was, you know, involved with Cornyn's campaign too, which is another reason why you have to say, what happened here? They, listen, guys, Texas is the great white whale for Democrats. Someone has to pay the price for them finally getting the great white whale. It's actually something, it's more than the great white whale. It's the king on your board. They just checkmated you. Do you understand? Like, the right, wake up, let me open your eyes, it's time, in case you're still asleep. You're done. You're finished. I've been trying to be gentle with you today, but Talarico just won that and

• 1:42:44Speaker 07

  won it overwhelmingly because, not to do a shameless plug of the book or anything, this was the warning. The millennials and Hispanics in the electorate that Donald Trump appealed to had to become your voters. Because the boomers that watch Fox News aren't gonna live forever. And they're gonna be replaced every year, two to one, by younger voters. Millennials are the largest voting cohort. And the minute they and Hispanics decide, you know what, I think this year I'll flex my political muscles. You're smoked. And that's what happened. And it happened despite all of the warnings, despite the simple mathematics. It's, this is not difficult math. It's basic arithmetic. And if you're gonna manage a fund

• 1:43:25Speaker 07

  that big, if you're gonna manage a PAC that big, you better understand that. And by the way, they went after Paxton, who's flawed, sure, you wanna say that, that's fine. The voters wanted him. A 22-year Senate incumbent should not need $100 million to defend him against somebody like Ken Paxton. If you can't survive that without $100 million, you should probably hang up your boots and call it a day. It's been the honor of my life to serve the people of Texas, but apparently I suck and they don't want me anymore. It's $100 million, Tucker, to destroy Ken Paxton to the point where it was not even repairable. In truth, they didn't just defeat Ken Paxton, they defeated every Republican in the statewide, running for statewide office on that ticket. They pulled Greg Abbott down. And I know

• 1:44:10Speaker 07

  the president's frustrated, and he was, you know, attacking Greg Abbott on Truth Social the, yeah, last night. And I, believe me, I could, I'm sure I could feel his frustration. You know, he shouldn't have run this long. He had $135 million cash on hand. Democrats didn't even come into that race until way late. They thought it was too late, because they didn't believe they could beat, they could beat Abbott with Hannah. And they did. And they did because of the damage that was really already done, well before, Paxton's a victim. He was a victim here. All right, everyone's looking at him like he's a terrible candidate, and we're supposed to blame Paxton for what happened in Texas. Paxton had no way to run against those headwinds. And by the way, Dorlene Graham, who went down in South Carolina, we saw that a mile away, because she had 30% disaffection, the same

• 1:44:55Speaker 07

  thing Cornyn had. That's the kind of number we were looking at when we were, disaffection is basically, folks, the base didn't wanna vote for them. They just were over these people. And we saw it with her brother too, before he passed, and then just injecting her, and then putting all of that money behind her, and base, again, a browbeat. You're gonna, you're gonna back this woman, you're gonna support this woman. Even though she went into a debate and when asked about a simple question about Taiwan, her response was, you have to excuse me, foreign policy is not my strong suit, and national security is not my strong suit. That was her brother's bread and butter. He spent his entire career trying to bomb people and being brushed up on, on national security. Whether you agreed with

• 1:45:37Speaker 07

  him or not, he knew his stuff, right? I couldn't imagine a scenario where a US senator couldn't answer a question like that, and then admits, an open admission, that I don't know anything about national security. What were you expecting? You just, the amount of contempt or disregard you have for voters and their intelligence, strike, it just absolutely striking.

• 1:46:01Tucker Carlson?

  So who made that decision? Who decided to, when Lindsey Graham died, to put his sister in there? Like, that's

• 1:46:08Speaker 07

  You know, I don't know.

• 1:46:09Tucker Carlson?

  That's the craziest thing I've ever seen. I never understood, I mean, they would never return, they wouldn't return my calls by the time that happened, so I never found out. But you don't know who decided to do that?

• 1:46:17Speaker 07

  Well, I don't, everyone wants to blame the president for everything, which, even though, you know, even myself, you know, I share the voters frustrations, but I still find this a bit of a slimy move, that everybody wants to blame President Trump for everything. Because again, it was a dead party before he came along, right? Yeah, I mean, it's just a cop out. The president puts you in roles, he expects you to fulfill your job and to do it right. He just, he had people around, just didn't do it right, all over the place. So now, it seems like a very simple, cowardly way out, to just say, oh, this is President Trump's fault. And the clip you played before, Mark Short, saying, it's the, it was all the tariffs, it was all the tariffs. We've pulled tariffs in the Midwest

• 1:46:58Speaker 07

  for 10 years, and they actually like tariffs when they're used appropriately. The problem is, you slapped tariffs on people and started a war. And then that drove up the price of energy and gas and diesel. So come on, give me a break. It's just, it's a cowardly way out. They would have taken that war, you know, any day of the week, twice on Sunday. The tariffs were their problem? Come on. I mean, I don't know who did it, but.

• 1:47:21Tucker Carlson?

  There's a video circulating online of Chris LaCivita, the president's political advisor, and a couple others, I think Susie Wiles, chief of staff, on a private plane, like, dressed, you know, in suits and stuff, sort of joking around about how fun it is to be on a private plane. And I wonder if anyone in the White House saw that, and was like, wait a second, you know, people can't pay their rent, and people are really suffering, or by American standards, people are really suffering. Like, maybe we don't post that. Like, what?

• 1:47:48Speaker 07

  Was that today? That was today?

• 1:47:50Tucker Carlson?

  No, no, no, this was a couple of months ago. But I remember thinking, if you wanna portray yourself as, not just out of touch, but contemptuous of your own voters, like, go ahead and post stuff like that. You're some, like, retarded political consultant. Like, there's no dumber group of people in America, I know them all. And they're not impressive, like, in my, this is my opinion. And so, like, you're rich because, how? Do you know what I mean? Like, to put that in people's faces?

• 1:48:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think there's something to be said to, for, I mean, it's all over the exit polls. When people feel good about the economy, they'll tolerate a lot. But there, there was a lot, I mean, it's clear, clear as day in the exit polls, you know, this, this project, that project, they were just over it. You know, the ballroom, by the way, which looks beautiful, you know? It does. They just don't wanna see that when they can't pay their bills, when they, you know, the, it's, this is basic Maslow's hierarchy of needs stuff. You can't even begin to climb up the pyramid, guys, unless you're meeting your basic needs. We're not even headed towards anywhere near self-actualization when you don't have shelter, or, you know, food. You know? These are, these are very, very simple

• 1:49:01Speaker 07

  ideas and, and simple concepts. And I, we just completely lost sight of it. But all of that was compounded on the fact that this was supposed to be different. This was, I mean, Republicans really did run as the party who would not forget about the little guy, the party that would not let the war lobby disrupt, you know, their administration. And that's what it was sold to them as. This is your turn, we're gonna focus on you, we're gonna put you first, we're gonna put the country first. And it stuns me that anybody, you know, just couldn't see how deep of a wound that could cut, and how much, you know, how, how potentially devastating it could be at the ballot box. And that's what it ended

• 1:49:43Speaker 07

  up being. I don't think anybody alive right now has seen anything like this.

• 1:49:47Tucker Carlson?

  Can I just make one last point, which is, you saw it, and every time I would check in to what you were saying and the responses you were getting, you were being attacked, really attacked, like, as a bad person, like, on moral grounds, for pointing that out. Half the people, and you were just kind of making up, I thought, a numbers-based case. Has anyone who attacked you apologized? Since you were right?

• 1:50:12Speaker 07

  You know, there have been, not, not any one of consequence, let me put it that way, and I hate to say that, but there are people who are misled. And those people who apologize, I'll take those apologies all day long, Tucker, because they just, a lot of people don't know better. But the people who did know better, and I think the vice president's tweet was really, I, first of all, I appreciated it, because what are you saying there is, no, we really, we really did know. We really did. And, okay, then if they did know, which I know they did, and I felt for months, a bit like Richard Nixon in the debate with Kennedy, where he was claiming there was a missile gap, but Richard Nixon couldn't

• 1:50:53Speaker 07

  actually say anything, because he couldn't reveal what was classified information. And I was just trying to hold confidence on things that I already did know. So I, I already knew they knew, and had just waited for election day, eventually. But no, nobody who actively misled people and did what they did, and I'm not alone here, so I don't wanna just, you know, sit over here like, oh, it was me, kinda thing, but they did it to a lot of people. And these people really were just trying to help the president. They were really just trying to help, he wanted to see him succeed, they, you know, they liked the president, they were trying to steer him in the right direction, and they were unleashed on. You know, it was morbid.

• 1:51:32Tucker Carlson?

  Morbid, morbid. One of the most amazing things I've ever seen. Rich, thanks a lot for doing this. I appreciate it. Thank you for summing that up. And some of those numbers are, like, unbelievable. Thank you.

• 1:51:42Speaker 07

  Anytime, Tucker. All the best. Thanks for having me.

• 1:51:44Tucker Carlson?

  You too. Thanks for watching us. I will be back next Wednesday at 6:00 PM Eastern. Thanks.