Maxime Bernier: Trump’s Tariffs, Mass Immigration, and the Oncoming Canadian Revolution

It’s hard to overstate how dystopian and threatening Canada has become. An update from longtime Canadian government official Maxime Bernier. (00:00) Who Was Justin Trudeau Really Working For? (07:53) the Invasion of Canada (09:19) Pierre Poilievre Is a Fraud (13:25) The Attempts to Destroy Christian Countries (15:51) The Trade War Between Canada and the US (23:03) The Canadian Government’s Ridiculous Climate Change Agenda (36:00) The Growing People’s Party (42:36) Is Trudeau Fidel Castro’s Son? Paid partnerships with: ExpressVPN: Go to https://ExpressVPN.com/Tucker and find out how you can get 3 months of ExpressVPN free! PureTalk: Switch your cell phone service to a company you can be PROUD to do business with. https://PureTalk.com/Tucker Silencer Central: Promo code Tucker10 for 10% off your purchase of banish suppressors at https://www.silencercentral.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Tucker Carlson?

  Now that Trudeau is gone, or sort of gone, like, what was that? Who was he working for, actually?

• 0:05Speaker 01

  I can tell you, Tucker, he was not working for us, for Canadians. He did destroy our country economically, socially, and culturally. You know, what he did to us during COVID-19, that was a not authoritarian government. I don't know if you remember that, but I did an interview with you after-

• 0:25Tucker Carlson?

  Very well.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was handcuffed and put in jail for non-crime, just in the summer of 2021, because I was speaking about freedom in a park in Manitoba.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  And he did impose on us also a vaccine passport. I wasn't able to travel across the country, because I'm not vaxxed, you know. But what he did to our country-

• 1:09Tucker Carlson?

  Do you regret not being vaxxed?

• 1:10Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 1:11Tucker Carlson?

  Do you ever think I really wish I'd had the COVID vaccine?

• 1:13Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  That was the best decision in my life.

• 1:18Tucker Carlson?

  Me too, I totally agree. Sorry, not to make others feel bad. So, he went about it so systematically. He got the government to pay for killing your citizens through the Maids' Program. Like, everything he did seemed designed to destroy Canada, like, on purpose. If you wanted to destroy the country, you would do what he did. Why do you think he did that?

• 1:39Speaker 01

  You know, he is a socialist, for sure, and a globalist, you know. And the World Economic Forum for him was, you know, the great thing, you know. And they were promoting socialism and globalism. And nobody imposed that philosophy on us, on Canadians. Trudeau was very pleased with that, and he decided to put legislation into place, into force in Canada, in line with that philosophy. And, you know, for him, he was spending money, like, you know, like, it was, you know, not a big deal. Actually, what he did, he was able to double-

• 2:23Speaker 01

  The debt that we accumulated over one hundred and forty eight years, he was able to double that in ten years. So our debt went-

• 2:32Tucker Carlson?

  He doubled the debt in ten years?

• 2:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, the debt that we accumulated over one hundred and forty eight years, it took him ten years to do that. So we, the debt was six hundred billion dollars and he doubled that to twelve hundred billion dollars. And he said, you know, deficits are okay. When you have a deficit, you know, it's a way to stimulate the economy. But we know that, you know, you cannot stimulate the economy with borrowed money. It's a sedative for the economy. So now in Canada, we are in, I believe, in a recession. Our standard of living is going down. Actually, what he did with mass

• 3:11Speaker 01

  immigration, that was, you know, is that was a big proponent of multiculturalism, you know, every culture are equal. So, and he did that in the nineteen seventies, that philosophy, and now we have a legislation in Canada promoting multiculturalism. But add that with mass immigration, you have the perfect storm. You have people who are coming to our country and you don't ask them to integrate into our society. You can keep your culture, you, you know, don't integrate into our society, live in the ghettos, and we have ghettos in Canada also. So, a lot of people

• 3:56Speaker 01

  came to Canada, and, you know, the economy was growing because of the, the growth of the population. But, you know, the population was growing faster than the economy. So our GDP per capita went down the last ten years. So we are poor today in Canada, if you look at what, what we had ten years ago. And it's because of Trudeau. It's because of mass immigration. It's because of big spendings. That's the, that's the legacy of Justin Trudeau.

• 4:25Tucker Carlson?

  Tens of thousands of Canadians killed themselves during his time. I mean, if there's one measure of happiness, it's like you don't kill yourself. So if you have Canadians killing themselves, tens of thousands of them, then that, so my question is, why isn't he in jail? And we're all excited to send all these people to jail. Andrew Tate must go to jail, or whoever, but like, I don't understand why Justin Trudeau's not in jail for destroying an entire nation.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  But the good news right now is not in government anymore, but we still have the Lebrons, but we need to have a real inquiry about everything that happened during COVID-19. These people must be responsible. And you're right, and now they are not. It's like, they want to turn the page about what they did to us during the COVID hysteria. For them, you know, that was okay. That was not okay. We had a Charter of Rights. They did not respect our Charter of Rights. And, you know, look at the Freedom Convoy. The Freedom Convoy. For me, that was not a protest. That was a celebration of who we are as a Canadian.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  We decided, okay, now we will end that authoritarian government peacefully. And what Trudeau did, he invoked the Emergencies Act.

• 5:42Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  That's an act that he used in times of war against us, against freedom fighters. And, you know, but at the end, we were successful because, you know, a couple of months after that Freedom Convoy, all these authoritarian measures, you know, they disappeared. And these politicians were not saying it's because of the Freedom Convoy, but it was because of the Freedom Convoy. People were fed up at that time. And, you know, but I cannot, I cannot understand why everybody's saying in Canada, that's okay, just forget that, forget what happened to you during COVID-19. You know, we needed to do that because to

• 6:27Speaker 01

  protect yourself. But we know that that vaccine was not safe and effective. And we are still promoting the mRNA vaccine in Canada right now.

• 6:36Tucker Carlson?

  We're doing it in the United States, too. And I don't understand why.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. And our proposal on that is a moratorium. We want a moratorium on immigration, a pause on immigration, no more immigrants for a couple of years until we fix the Problem of mass immigration and also a moratorium on these mRNA vaccine.

• 6:55Tucker Carlson?

  We would like that too. You never kind of get what you really want, do you?

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you need you need to fight for that. You need to fight for that.

• 7:01Tucker Carlson?

  So what is Trudeau doing? I mean, there are many people responsible, I would say. I actually am one of only Americans who's interested in Canada and really loves Canada. Um, cause I live near Canada, but and so I've followed it and I think there are a number of people. Um, not just in Trudeau's party, but in the in his coalition party, uh, who are responsible. But he's the most responsible. So what is he doing now?

• 7:26Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to know, Tucker.

• 7:29Tucker Carlson?

  But he just gets to like walk around Canada free?

• 7:31Speaker 01

  Oh, he's still free.

• 7:33Tucker Carlson?

  They put people in prison for opposing him.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  But I can tell you, he needs a lot of security when he's.

• 7:39Tucker Carlson?

  I bet he does.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, yeah, you know, uh, uh, uh, look. We are fed up with the liberals and right now in in that electoral campaign. It's all about, there's only one subject now. It's not, you know, I wanted to add that this election to be on mass immigration. That must be the most important. It is destroying our way of life, uh, you know. And when I'm speaking about mass immigration, people don't understand. But last year in Canada, we had 1.3 million foreigners coming to our country, for a country of 40 million people. That is mass immigration and.

• 8:17Tucker Carlson?

  Well, that's that's an invasion.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, 97% of the growth of our population last year was coming from mass immigration. This is the replacement, uh, doc theory, but.

• 8:30Tucker Carlson?

  It was not a theory, it's a reality. The Canadian population, like the American population, the European population, replaced.

• 8:39Speaker 01

  That that's what is happening in our country right now. And you know, the immigrants that are coming here or the foreigners that are coming to Canada. Uh, you know, are coming from countries. That doesn't share our western civilization values. So it's more difficult for them and they don't speak English or they don't speak French. They cannot integrate into our society. That's a big problem. That's a huge problem. And now you have the housing crisis because of that. Too many people, all these people need a roof. So, but, but the solution is, you know, it's question of supply and demand. You just have to stop the demand and that will solve the housing crisis.

• 9:18Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  But, you know, Poliev, the leader of the Conservative Party, like the Republican Party here in, in the US. But they're not conservative. They're conservative in name only, like, you know, the

• 9:30Tucker Carlson?

  Pierre Poliev.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  Pierre Poliev is the leader of the Conservative Party.

• 9:33Tucker Carlson?

  He seems like a true fraud to me, like a pretty sinister fraud.

• 9:37Speaker 01

  But, you know, he's doing a campaign against Trump. They don't want to do a campaign to help Canadians and put our country first. Now it's all about, oh, the tariffs and, you know, we need to do counter tariffs. But that's killing us.

• 9:52Tucker Carlson?

  How about stopping immigration from India and Pakistan?

• 9:54Speaker 01

  First, first, please, yes, first, that, that's

• 9:57Tucker Carlson?

  But that's not even a consideration.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  No, they are pandering, they are pandering, they, the Liberals and the Conservatives are pandering to these ethnic communities for votes. So that's why they don't speak about ending mass immigration. Actually, Poliev said we need to have 250,000 foreigners a year, plus international students, plus temporary foreign workers, plus refugees. That would be about 1.5 million foreigners over three years. That is mass immigration in the middle of a mass immigration crisis. We cannot afford that. We cannot, that's destroying

• 10:37Tucker Carlson?

  So can I says like, again, just to the question I asked about Trudeau, I'm gonna ask the same about Poliev. Like, who's paying him to do that? That's not, I mean, no one's benefiting, maybe, maybe people from Bangladesh are benefiting, okay? I'm not against them, by the way, I understand, I'd move to Canada too if I lived in Bangladesh. But I, no one in Canada is benefiting from this. So why would Poliev and Trudeau be embracing the same policy that everyone hates and is destroying Canada?

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have a point there. 70% of the population in Canada, the last survey, are saying

• 11:12Speaker 01

  No to mass immigration. We must end mass immigration. So your question is, if these politicians want to be elected, how come they are not listening to the population?

• 11:22Tucker Carlson?

  Exactly.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  Because there are, you know, there's 343 writings in Canada, and that's a parliamentary system. So they're looking at different writings and they want to have support in different writings to be able to have a majority. But in a lot of writings, there's a majority of foreigners or immigrants, and they want to have their support. But the new immigrants, so they are asking for having their family here in Canada with them. When I'm speaking about family, it's not the immediate family, mother, father, and children. No, it is, you know, your uncle, your grandmom, granddad, brothers, sisters, so the entire family, and they want them here

• 12:06Speaker 01

  in Canada. So they're saying, okay, reunification of family will do that for you. You'll be able to bring all your family here in Canada. So because of the electoral system, they're looking to win some writings to have a majority, and that's why they are not speaking for Canadians. They're speaking for different people in different writings where they have a majority there.

• 12:29Tucker Carlson?

  So what you're really saying is that a democratic system does not produce democratic results. We have these democratic systems throughout the West that have for 50 years done the opposite of what their populations want. So it's a democratic system without democracy. That's the way it feels to me.

• 12:46Speaker 01

  And when you have another point of view, like us, the People's Party, about that, they try to cancel you. They don't want you. They don't, you know, the mainstream media in Canada, they won't, it's like I don't exist as a populist party in Canada. So they don't want our point of view to be out there. So I need to do podcasts and, you know, being with you and traveling across the country and doing my campaign on social media. That's the only way to be out there. And they know if more people can understand. Our position, we will have more support, but they don't want that. You know, all these, they're globalists.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  The, the, I'm the only one who is fighting for the sovereignty of our country. For them, you know, more people would be okay. And for me, let just have that pause, you know.

• 13:38Tucker Carlson?

  But they're not really globalists, are they? Cause they're not doing this to China and Africa and the Middle East. They're not saying those nations need to invite a lot of people from different parts of the world. They're, it's, it's not actually global.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  It's only one side.

• 13:51Tucker Carlson?

  It's anti-Western.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 13:53Tucker Carlson?

  They're saying that there's something about a majority white Christian country that's inherently threatening and we're going to destroy it. And that's kind of, not kind of, it is exactly what they've done around the world.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  What, what, they did that in France, in UK, in Germany, and now in Canada.

• 14:09Tucker Carlson?

  Yes, you've got basically Russia left. And of course, that's the country they hate most. So it is a tell, like they're not screaming at Chairman Xi to let in a bunch of people from Nigeria. It's like not even on the table. They're not even demanding Japan do that. It's just Canada, UK, Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and the US, and that's it.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  That's it. And, and what they're doing, you know, if you are a leader of a nation, your first responsibility is to work for your people. And it's immoral what they're doing right now because they're helping foreigners more than Canadians.

• 14:41Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  What, what Poliev, the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, and Carney, the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, they are saying on mass immigration, we will solve that. We will build more houses for them. So what they're doing, they want more foreigners and that's why they're building more houses. But that's not to solve the housing crisis for Canadians. No, that's, you know, they are putting their energy to be sure that foreigners will come to our country and they will have a roof. I'm saying, no, just stop that, please. Let's work for our people first.

• 15:16Tucker Carlson?

  But why do they hate? I mean, look, in the end, you understand motive by action. Like, how does someone feel? I don't know. Let's watch what he does.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:25Tucker Carlson?

  So if you deny your children food, you probably hate your children. You can say whatever you, I love my children, but if you're not giving them dinner, you hate them. Why do, and so they clearly, Poliev and Trudeau and Carney, really hate Canadians. Why is that? Why?

• 15:41Speaker 01

  They, what they like, it's power. It's, it's, you know, I, I wish I have the answer to that, but they are telling you the opposite. They are telling you that they love, you know, Tucker, they're in that trade war with the US right now. Poliev and Carney are saying to us Canadians, we love you. We love you so much Canadians, that what we will do, we will impose counter tariffs because Trump is bad. President Trump is very bad, you know, and we want to keep our country united. We are a sovereign country. We love you. We will impose a new tax on you, 25% on everything that you are importing from the US.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  I told you, the inflation is high in Canada. Our standard of living is going down, and they add to that a new tax 25%, and they are telling us it's because we love us. They love us, sorry. And so, it's crazy. And, and, you know, they're, they're okay with that. And the former Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, I was with him. I was a Conservative before. I was elected for 13 years. I was a Minister of Foreign Affairs and Industry Minister under the Harper government. I resigned and we created the People's Party in 2018. But Harper just wrote a letter in the National Post in Canada three weeks ago.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  And he said, we need to do that trade war with the US, dollar for dollar. And you know, you're 10 times bigger than us. We won't win a trade war against the US.

• 17:15Tucker Carlson?

  That's true.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  And he said, dollar for dollar, and he said, yes, it will hurt us Canadians. And yes, we may start a recession, but that's okay. So what I'm telling Canadians, no counter tariffs. It's a tax that you impose on Canadians and Canadian businesses. You must stop that. We must have a deal with President Trump as soon as possible. And we are able to do that if we put everything on the table. But for Carney and Poliev, no, that's okay. And actually, last week, about this tariff.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Kanye said, "Okay, we will impose another tariffs on the car imported from the US." And he said, "The government will be able to raise $8 billion." "And we will give that to big corporations because they are affected by these tariffs. They cannot export their products to the US." So what is telling us? "I will take $8 billion for the poor consumers with that new tax. You Canadians, consumers, you will pay that, and I will give that to big corporations." Taxing the poor and giving that to the rich. That is the policy of the Liberal Government, and Poliev is okay with that.

• 18:34Speaker 01

  That's crazy, and that is killing our economy.

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• 21:57Tucker Carlson?

  Port is probably have.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, both of them are about tied in the polls right now, but I don't know what will happen.

• 22:07Tucker Carlson?

  Are there real differences between them?

• 22:10Speaker 01

  On tariffs, no.

• 22:13Tucker Carlson?

  On immigration, no.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  On immigration, no. On climate change, oh, that's a good one. You know, Poliev is supposed to be a conservative, is supposed, you know, our position, the People's Party, is to withdraw from the Paris Accord.

• 22:25Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  Like Trump. But for Poliev, the conservatives and the liberal, there's a climate emergency in Canada, and we must do everything.

• 22:34Tucker Carlson?

  Because it's too cold in Canada?

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Oh, maybe. Yeah, it's too cold, yeah.

• 22:39Tucker Carlson?

  It's still pretty cold in Canada.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, I had a cold. It is a little bit cold. But that being said, yeah, for for Poliev and Carney, they want to impose a carbon tax because Canadians don't want it. So they are listening a little bit to Canadians, but they will impose more regulations on businesses. They will impose other taxes to fight climate change and to be able to achieve the Paris Accord goal that we that we have. And at the same time, look at that, CO2 for them is a pollutant. You know, CO2 is not good, and we need to capture the CO2. So they're giving billion of dollars to a new technology to capture CO2

• 23:23Speaker 01

  and put the CO2 down in the down in the ground. So it's so bad.

• 23:30Tucker Carlson?

  It's like a joke. It's like a joke.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  But you know, Tucker, there's one natural technology to capture CO2.

• 23:37Tucker Carlson?

  Yes, there is.

• 23:38Speaker 01

  This is plants.

• 23:39Tucker Carlson?

  Trees.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  Trees, plants. It is food for plants. We need more CO2. We don't need to capture CO2 and put that in the ground. But they will spend billion of billion of dollars that we don't have.

• 23:51Tucker Carlson?

  Their children. And they're also hamstringing your country, preventing it from being rich on the basis of its abundant natural resources, which Canada has. Like the US, like Australia, has amazing natural resources, and they're basically saying we're not allowed to use them because the Chinese don't want us to. It does seem like China controls your country. I'm just like.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Well, speaking about China, um, C C S, C C S is our secret service. And they did an investigation and they said, that's not me. They said it, that our election in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one, we had Chinese interference in our elections. Uh, the Chinese Communist Party was giving money to some candidates from Chinese origin. So it's happening in our country right now. Uh, but Poliev is okay with that. And they said also, there's MPs, member, members of parliament in the Conservative Party of Canada and in the Liberals Party of Canada, who are not loyal to our country.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  They said it, and we know, we want to know the names of these people. But Poliev and Carney and Trudeau before that, they don't know, it's secret. We won't tell you who these people are. So we have member of members of parliament in the parliament in Canada, where their first goal is to help their country of origin, China or India. So that is happening because of mass immigration. If you have all these people who are coming to our country, they're not, they're not part of this country. They're coming here only because of the economy. They want a better future economically, but you know, they don't share our values and their loyalty is with their country of origin.

• 25:41Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  So.

• 25:42Tucker Carlson?

  You've had political assassinations that have nothing to do with Canada at all. And we have the same problem here, you know, everyone's yelling at each other about the Middle East. We've got nothing to do with the Middle East.

• 25:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:52Tucker Carlson?

  We have a lot of people who have got a lot of strong feelings about the Middle East that have nothing to do with America at all. And we've got these massive protests, people yelling at each other about these faraway countries. It's totally nuts, um, as our population withers and dies. But um, you have the same problem and you've had, you know, Sikh Indian rival. I don't even understand some of it. I'm not interested.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm not interested.

• 26:12Tucker Carlson?

  I should be interested, but um, but you've had people killed over this.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm not interested also. They are coming here and they're bringing their internal conflicts, the conflicts of their country of origin on our street. They're doing that in Canada right now. So, you know, speaking about the Middle East.

• 26:31Speaker 01

  I'm not pro Palestine, I'm not pro Israel, I'm pro Canada.

• 26:36Tucker Carlson?

  I feel the same.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  So, so we don't have, we don't have to do anything over there. And our position is, you know, we won't, we don't, we won't have any impact on the, the politics in Middle East. That's you in the US will have the greater impact there. So that's why I'm saying, I don't want to speak about that. That's not our issue. And same thing for the war in Ukraine. The war in Ukraine, I was the only leader saying, no, we must not participate in that war. But Poliev and Trudeau at that time, and now Carney, they are pro war and they are pro, you know, the, the war in Ukraine. And actually, right now, President Trump, he is doing the right thing. Try to have a peace deal with Russia.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  And we in Canada are saying to Zelensky, we'll give you more ammunition, we'll give you more resources. Let's have that peace deal, you know.

• 27:29Tucker Carlson?

  And they're always, I notice every time I see your political leaders, they're always talking about some, they've got very strong views in the Middle East. It's like a massive debate in Canada. You know, I, I'm kind of agnostic on it personally, but um, I just wonder, what does that have to do with Canada? They spend so much time talking about it.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, we must not talk about that. Absolutely. We must talk about the real issues. You know, no more climate change, no more Paris Accord, no more World Health Organization, the Globe, the UN, the Global Compact on Migration. Canada signed that compact. So that's why, you know, for the UN, migration is okay. Everybody can go in any countries and, you know, living there, you can be a citizen of Canada. No, it's a privilege to be a Canadian and that must be it. But, you know, with that mass immigration, it is not a privilege anymore. We, we don't do any.

• 28:21Tucker Carlson?

  It's sad, because it was, I mean, Americans always made fun of Canada, um, but in a sort of sweet way. And I think Canada's, Canadians, a lot of Canadians always resented the United States because it's this huge country, right? You know, I get, I get all that. But in real life, Canada was always a very sweet, nice country and beautiful, truly beautiful country. And you have this disastrous 10 years where your life expectancy goes down, your standard of living goes down, the country really starts to fall apart and become authoritarian, the opposite of the sort of sweet Canadian culture you remember. And then your option, your option is a guy who actually agrees with the tyrant who destroys your country. So it's, it's almost like, it's like our system. It's like we have Obama,

• 29:04Tucker Carlson?

  who's clearly like hates America, terrible for America, but our option is John McCain and Mitt Romney, who agree with Obama. It's like, it all seems fake, kind of, no?

• 29:14Speaker 01

  But we are the only option for Canadians. That's why I'm telling Canadians, we are the populist and we can do a populist revolution based on free markets and respecting Canadians and working for Canadians. But you know, that revolution will come in Canada. Like in UK with Nigel Farage, you know, he had 15% of the vote at the last general election in UK. He was able to elect only six candidates. But now in the polls, if you look at the polls in UK, he is leading these polls. So that's good for him. And you have Marine Le Pen in France. I hope she'll be able to be a candidate for the presidential election. So, so that, that movement started here in, in the US with Trump and it, it is coming to

• 29:59Speaker 01

  Canada. That, that we are, we are representing that movement. But you know, it, it's, these two leaders are the same. I call them, you know, the uni-party liberals of conservative, their lib-con party. That's, that's the same on the most important issue. And now in that electoral campaign, they are using slogan, Poliev is losing, so I'm, I'm here for you. You know, I'm, I'm gonna put Canada first. He's saying that seriously by saying more war in Ukraine, more mass immigration, you know, he's not speaking about ending the deficit.

• 30:37Tucker Carlson?

  More climate suicide.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, climate suicide and all that. And you know, our enemy is Trump, President Trump.

• 30:45Tucker Carlson?

  And so you said you can't get on Canadian media, which is-

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Mainstream media.

• 30:49Tucker Carlson?

  It's state media, right? I mean, doesn't, doesn't your government subsidy give money to the media?

• 30:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, CBC, CBC and Radio Canada in French, 1.2 billion dollars. But the federal government is giving also 800 million dollars to order, you know, media, mainstream media, CTV, global mail. And so-

• 31:09Speaker 01

  We will cut that. We want, you know.

• 31:12Tucker Carlson?

  Why not have a free media? Why? I mean, state media is for North Korea, right? Isn't that?

• 31:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:17Tucker Carlson?

  Like, free countries don't have state media, do they?

• 31:19Speaker 01

  That's why we want to cut that spending. And if Radio Canada or CBC, they're going bankrupt, that's it. That's okay. You know, that's the free markets. But they are the propaganda arms of the federal government, these mainstream media. And, you know, the narrative on COVID, and now you have, at that time during the COVID hysteria, you know, you didn't have the other narrative on mainstream media. And now the narrative is, we must save our country from Trump. You know, we are independent. We just need to have a good deal with President Trump. And so that's the narrative right now, coming from the mainstream media.

• 32:01Tucker Carlson?

  What? So can you get your message? Like, how do you get your message out in Canada?

• 32:06Speaker 01

  Today with you.

• 32:08Tucker Carlson?

  Is that right?

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, you know.

• 32:10Tucker Carlson?

  You've got to fly to the United States.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  I absolutely.

• 32:12Tucker Carlson?

  Do Canadians look at social media?

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's the future. You know, I'm the only leader of a national political party in Canada who is doing podcasts. And Poliev and all these, they won't. They cannot sit for an hour, two hours and having a discussion. They cannot do that. So but the new way of doing politics, Trump did it, President Trump did it. And, you know, was successful. You need to have a discussion and explain your point of view and your political philosophy, political position. So I'm doing that. I'm the only one. And it's helping. Yes, it's helping. And I think.

• 32:50Tucker Carlson?

  How are you treated by the Globe and Mail and CBC and Radio Canada?

• 32:53Speaker 01

  I don't exist.

• 32:54Tucker Carlson?

  They don't even mention you.

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Oh, I don't exist for them. I don't. And actually, look at that. I was supposed, I did participated in the Leader's Debate in 2019. We created that party in 2018. 2019 was our first election. And I did participate, participate in the Leader's Debate against Trudeau at that time.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  But in 2021, they created a new rule and they said, okay Bernie, now you don't have the right and that commission, that Leaders Debate Commission, it's only to exclude, they exist only to exclude the People's Party. And at this election, I was supposed to be able to participate in the national debates that will be next week, but they changed the rules just to exclude us. So that's not fair, that process is not fair. They're so afraid of our ideas, they don't want us to have any traditional platform.

• 33:52Tucker Carlson?

  That's frightening. Can you raise money?

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Yes, we have generous by using, you know, our emails and our members and yes, we have money, we are able to raise money and I want to thank our donors, they're very generous and so you need to be a Canadian citizen to donate and if they want to donate, they can go on our website, people's party of Canada, C A, click donation, that will help us.

• 34:18Tucker Carlson?

  Um, where are the French in all this? I always felt, you know, most Americans made fun of the French Canadians, I know a lot of them, I have a lot of French Canadian friends, I live near French Canada and I've always liked them and I have always defended them and I always liked them because they defended their own culture and their own language, a little hard to deal with, you know, the rest of the French always complain about them and their license plates in Quebec and all that. But I always thought when it came right down to it, the French Canadians would defend their land, their culture, their language, their history.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  And they're doing that right.

• 34:51Tucker Carlson?

  Are they? I hope so.

• 34:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, they are doing that right now. Look at at the provincial level in Quebec, there's the Parti Québécois, the separatist party and a young charismatic leader is the leader of that party. And the election at the provincial level in Quebec will be in 2026 and he's speaking about separation and separation is growing in the polls right now. Why? Because of Trudeau, because of mass immigration. Franco Cofon are looking at it, all these immigrants and foreigners that are coming to Quebec and Canada who don't speak French, they cannot integrate in the. Franco-Franche culture.

• 35:29Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  So, so they don't like that, so they're looking at the Parti Québécois. And the Parti Québécois is winning in the polls right now. And the leader said, if I'm the new premier of Quebec, a year after my election, I will do a referendum on the independence, the sovereignty of Quebec. So it's, it's back now because of mass immigration. And in Alberta, they're so mad about Ottawa. And, you know, because they cannot export their natural resources with, you know, climate change regulations against the whole oil and gas industry. More, more Albertans are separatists now. So I'm telling Canadians, we are the only hope for this country.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  If we want to save this country, the People's Party is there because we will respect our constitution. We will have a radical decentralization. Alberta will be able to do that. We won't participate in the Paris Accord. We won't participate with these globalists at the UN or the World Economic Forum or World Health Organization. So we'll be a real independent country. But Ottawa will be a smaller government that will be only in charge of his constitutional responsibilities and not interfering in provincial jurisdictions. Now you have that separatist movement in Alberta because of the federal government that is, you know, telling Albertans what to do. And Albertans don't like it, and I understand that.

• 36:56Tucker Carlson?

  Do you think there's a chance that Alberta joins Montana?

• 37:00Speaker 01

  You know, they can stay in the country and I hope that they will stay in the country if, if the People's Party position is adopted in our country, if we win. Because we will have a radical decentralization and I believe and will respect their jurisdiction, provincial autonomy. And I, I hope that they will stay. If not, they will want to be independent or they can be the first 51st state. I don't know. But that being said, my goal is to unite this country. And with our policies, we will. But if we. Go with Poliev or or or Carney, that would be the end of this country in couple of

• 37:41Speaker 01

  years. And actually, Preston Manning, Preston Manning was the leader of the Reform Party in the nineteen eighties. And that at that time, you know, West, the Western Canadians were very mad at Ottawa with Trudeau. And they had that regional political party, the Reform Party, and very successful. And after that, the Reform Party did merge with Canadian Alliance, and after that, the Conservative Party of Canada. So the Reform Party does not exist anymore. And and our platform, it's about ninety percent of the reform, more autonomy, less government, you know, fiscally responsible. But Preston Manning

• 38:20Speaker 01

  said, two days ago, that, you know, if if nothing's changed in this country, it would be good for Alberta to separate. He's saying that as the former leader of a party who try, that party that tries to have Western back in Canada, you know, by by changing Ottawa. And that he was not successful. And now he's saying to Albertans, you know, yeah, separation, I'm OK with that. If Ottawa doesn't do anything for us, that would be the only solution. But we need and that's why, for me personally, I decided to jump into politics in two thousand

• 39:03Speaker 01

  and six, to have a federal government that will respect our constitution, that will be a smarter government, that will have a real free markets. But that is not happening.

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• 41:32Tucker Carlson?

  Do you know Justin Trudeau personally?

• 41:35Speaker 01

  I had a dinner with him when I was in Parliament, when he was in the opposition, a long time ago. And, you know, he's full of himself. But, you know, he's a funny guy.

• 41:47Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, he's charming in person?

• 41:49Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he's charming, he's funny, and, you know, but actually, it's all about himself.

• 41:56Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  It's all about himself.

• 41:58Tucker Carlson?

  Is he Fidel Castro's son?

• 42:00Speaker 01

  That's a good question. We need to have a DNA on that.

• 42:03Tucker Carlson?

  But do people in Canadian government believe that he might be?

• 42:07Speaker 01

  But Canadians, some Canadians believe for sure. Oh, actually, yes. And, you know, that's on social media, you can see.

• 42:15Tucker Carlson?

  So it's not just a crazy theory that could be true?

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Well, for some, it's crazy, for other, it is not.

• 42:21Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 42:22Speaker 01

  But it is a real question.

• 42:25Tucker Carlson?

  Certainly looks like it.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  He looks like it, yeah.

• 42:28Tucker Carlson?

  One of the, I'm not for socialized medicine, I guess, but I don't have really strong feelings. I just want something that works, I guess, is what I.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  But it is not working in Canada.

• 42:38Tucker Carlson?

  Well, it's just sad because you would go to Canada, I've spent a lot of time there hunting and fishing. And even the conservative Canadians say, you know, we've got this great healthcare system. And they were so proud of their healthcare system, and they really were, I remember very well. Thirty years ago, they would always tell you, and they were a little bit insecure and defend, you know, we're Canada, we're a real country, they're always like that, but we have this great healthcare system. And they really were proud, I think, were they?

• 43:02Speaker 01

  But that's not the case right now. They were, that's not the case right now because the waiting lists for surgeries, you can wait a year. So, and you know, we are spending a lot of money for healthcare and that's not functioning.

• 43:14Tucker Carlson?

  So, but do people feel like it's not working in Canada?

• 43:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, more people, actually, oh yeah, more people. So they're ready. My position is for every Canadian to have an insurance, everybody will have an insurance, and they will be able to choose if they can go to a private hospital or a public hospital. Like in Sweden, like in European countries, they're spending less on healthcare, but they're more effective. For us, you know, we need to put more competition in the system. So, and that would be a mixed system. We don't have that right now. You know, there's in some provinces, like in Quebec, you can have, you know, private clinics that can do some surgeries, but you know, all across the country, we need to have more private delivery of healthcare services and we don't have that.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  And so more Canadians now understand that and they're ready for that reform. But establishment politicians won't speak about that because it's a taboo subject to ask for more private delivery of services.

• 44:14Tucker Carlson?

  But the system itself doesn't work very well right now.

• 44:17Speaker 01

  Doesn't work, doesn't work.

• 44:19Tucker Carlson?

  Immigration must be putting huge strain on that system.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  That's why, and that's me, on that system, on our infrastructures, on healthcare, on.

• 44:29Tucker Carlson?

  Schools, housing.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  Schools, all that, housing, it's, that must be the first priority for us in Canada and for the mainstream media, the mainstream politician, it is not. We are, you know, with the Liberals, we are going, you know, driving into a wall. And with the Conservatives, we are driving into a wall, but at a different speed. That's sad.

• 44:56Tucker Carlson?

  Same here. I'm not a conspiracy person, but like if every quote democratic system in the West has the same outcome, which is two parties that fundamentally agree on the big issues, but pretend to hate each other while the real concerns of the population are ignored. Got to wonder like, how did every country in the West wind up with the same fake system? Like honestly, how did that happen?

• 45:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. We must admit that the globalist organizations and the World Economic Forum, they have huge influence. They are think tank. They are promoting their socialist globalist ideas in Canada and other countries. And you have our elites, they are going to Davos, they like that, and they're, oh, that's a good idea. They think that they know better than us what is good for Canadians. And you know, they want to fix everything. And you know, a solution to every problem must be a governmental solution, must be a solution that is coming from the government. But the government is the problem. We have too much government in our lives. So, so that's a problem in Western society right now.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  Mass immigration, big government, big deficit, high inflation, all that must change.

• 46:15Tucker Carlson?

  Do you have friends or family who've left Canada?

• 46:18Speaker 01

  I know people, not family, but I know people. They decided, it's, business people are saying, you know, I don't want to invest in Canada right now. They're, and our private investment is going down and you need investment for economic growth.

• 46:36Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  So, so yeah, some people are leaving the country, but my goal, I'm telling them, stay in Canada, do the fight with me. Together, we can do that fight, you know? We will win that battle of ideas. We have the best ideas based on individual freedom, personal responsibility, respect, small government. We have faith in people, we don't have faith in a big fat government. So stay with, stay in Canada, fight with me, and you know, that's the fight we need to win that fight.

• 47:03Tucker Carlson?

  Why did they take all your guns away?

• 47:05Speaker 01

  Oh, Trudeau did it. And he was very successful to do that. You know?

• 47:12Speaker 01

  Trudeau doesn't want us to defend ourselves. And that's why in our platform, we have the the Castel doctrine. You know, you must be able to have a gun. You must be able to defend yourself and your property with that. And we need to change our criminal code for that. And our position as a political party, we will repeal every legislation that Trudeau put in to be sure that he will eliminate all the guns. But for him, you know, and and for the conservative also on guns. They're dangerous. People are are not responsible. They must not have guns. So that's why we have very tough legislation on guns in Canada.

• 47:54Tucker Carlson?

  I noticed-

• 47:54Speaker 01

  And they don't respect property rights on gun, you know. The federal government can decide tomorrow and with a new regulation, this gun is illegal and the RCMP, our police, will go and seize your gun.

• 48:06Tucker Carlson?

  You're very heavily armed. I've had a couple of encounters with Canadian law enforcement over the years, bad encounters, and boy, they're heavily armed and very aggressive, very aggressive. They're not the kind of polite Canadians you think about. RCMP is like not anyone to mess with. They seem like a military force to me.

• 48:24Speaker 01

  All right, but now they're a work organization.

• 48:26Tucker Carlson?

  I know.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  The leader of the RCMP, they're work, you know. You know, you know, now in the RCMP and in the Canadian forces, you can be a soldier for us without being a Canadian citizen.

• 48:40Tucker Carlson?

  What?

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Without being a Canadian citizen, you're a you're an immigrant. You can be part, you can participate in the Canadian forces.

• 48:50Tucker Carlson?

  So you're not a citizen of Canada, but they'll hand you an automatic weapon?

• 48:53Speaker 01

  And defend our country that you don't know.

• 48:56Tucker Carlson?

  But a Canadian citizen can't have a gun at home. But they'll give some foreigner an automatic weapon, a fully automatic machine gun.

• 49:03Speaker 01

  Very dangerous one, yeah, yeah.

• 49:04Tucker Carlson?

  Okay. So that suggests like they don't have good plans for you. That's not a good sign, right?

• 49:10Speaker 01

  That is not. That's, that's why we need that revolution, you know. We need to change the leadership at the Canadian forces and our CMP, having real people, promoting people because of their competent competence. Uh, you know, the DEI in Canada, it's, uh, it's killing everything. Trudeau gave-

• 49:30Tucker Carlson?

  Still?

• 49:30Speaker 01

  Oh, still. Trudeau, the Liberals are giving a lot of money to third-party organizations to promote DEI.

• 49:38Tucker Carlson?

  Anti-white policies.

• 49:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And they're doing that. And, you know, they would, they're gonna promote people based on the color of their skin in, in, in the government and in the Canadian forces, based on your sexual orientation. We must not do that, you know, it's against the Western civilization values. We must promote meritocracy. So I'm saying instead of DEI, it must be not diversity, but unity. Instead of equality, it must be, it must be, you know, everybody must be equal before the law.

• 50:16Tucker Carlson?

  Exactly.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  And that, that's part of our values. And, you know, inclusion, you want to have people who are not competent to do something and in the government or in the Canadian forces, it must be based on meritocracy. That's, and that's why, you know, what Trump is doing, what President Trump is doing in the US, uh, fighting that. It's great because our mainstream media now in Canada, they have to speak about what is happening in the US and they're speaking about what President Trump is doing, you know, promoting meritocracy and ending all that woke ideology. And so that is part of the narrative now in Canada. So more people understand what is DEI, what is the woke ideology?

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Because when I'm speaking about that, and you know, it's part of our program for the last six years, when I'm speaking about that, the mainstream media won't cover me. So now they are speaking against a little bit the DEI because they're speaking, they're, they're telling us what Trump is doing in the US, but for them it's very bad. But at least they're speaking about that and so people can think, yeah, you know, promoting people based on your competence must be the thing that you must do.

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• 54:32Tucker Carlson?

  I wonder at a certain point, and clearly Trudeau and Poliev and the rest of them, Carney, think this too, but like, how far can you push people before, you know, they respond in an unreasonable violent way? I mean, if this wasn't Canada, it was any other country, I would say, boy, they're gonna get a revolution if they're not careful. Like, you can't oppress people like this. You can't offer them suicide instead of healthcare. You can't flood their societies with foreigners. You can't destroy their standard of living. You can't throw them in jail for expressing opinions without provoking like a violent response. Are they worried about that? Is that why they took your guns away?

• 55:10Speaker 01

  If they're worried about that, you know, I'm not worried about that as a leader of a...

• 55:16Tucker Carlson?

  I'm against violent revolution, just for the record.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm against also that. No, it would, you know, the revolution will come when people would be ready. And, and it's happening right now. You can see the change. You can see we have more support as a new political party. People understand the battle that we are doing. And I believe it would be a quiet revolution. They're gonna say, you know, enough is enough. And that, that, that will happen. But I assume...

• 55:45Speaker 01

  I don't know, it may be in a couple of years or a couple of months, we never know.

• 55:50Tucker Carlson?

  But you see throughout the West, the democratic system controlled by authoritarians, excluding people from the system, you see with Marine Le Pen right now in France, you were just, you knocked out of the debates, Ceaușescu in Romania, arrested for running on a populist position, the most popular politician in the country, and he's arrested because, because he's the most popular. So, they're basically denying people a democratic outlet for their frustrations. They're saying, even your voting, this country, they stole the 2020 election, obviously. They're basically not allowing people any way to express their views at all. And that seems like a scary thing to do.

• 56:30Speaker 01

  Well, we can have another Freedom Convoy in Canada, that was very successful. And you know, that was successful because at the end, we were able to stop these draconian measures on us with that Freedom Convoy. So, maybe something like that can happen, a very peaceful protest in Canada, saying to our politicians, enough is enough, it can happen, yeah.

• 56:52Tucker Carlson?

  Who is Carney? Can you explain who Mark Carney is?

• 56:55Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 56:56Tucker Carlson?

  He's the leader of the Liberal Party, he was the replacement for Trudeau.

• 56:59Speaker 01

  He is, he is the globalist in chief. You know, he was, as you know, Tucker, the special envoy on climate action and finance for the UN, and he wrote a book about climate change, and, and you know, imposing a carbon tax, but now he's a politician, and he knows that it is not popular to impose a carbon tax, Canadians are, they don't want to pay more taxes anymore, so he said, I want to impose a carbon tax. But he is an, part of, he is part of the elite, you know, with the UN and the World Economic Forum, and for Canadians right now, it's like, you know, that's a Trudeau 2.1,

• 57:44Speaker 01

  but you know, he looks more competent, because he was the governor of the Bank of Canada. Actually, and he's, he believes in printing money out of tiniers.

• 57:56Speaker 01

  That we can have deficit and you know the Bank of Canada will buy uh Canadian bonds. And so like they did during Covid nineteen um. I'm waiting for him and Poliev to tell us when they will balance the budget. I I know what President Trump is doing in the US with the Doge Doge. Uh it's uh we need to do the same in Canada. We need to do the same. And I said that in twenty twenty. We need to have a department of downsizing the government. We need to do that. But he is a big spender and for him, you know, and and Poliev spending money. Money that we don't have, it's okay. That is creating inflation and we are paying the inflation tax in Canada right now.

• 58:39Tucker Carlson?

  What kind of support does does Carney get from new Canadian citizens, from immigrants?

• 58:46Speaker 01

  He has a lot of support from the mainstream media. Now, you know, the mainstream media is promoting him. You know, you can read the news in Canada uh uh since the the beginning of the electoral campaign. And Carney, you know, it's always the way that the President Carney in the news. It's always the the more favorable favorable way. So that that's good for him because now, you know, if you look at the polls, it's doing well. But I don't trust these polls anymore. And but with the population, with that narrative, they're looking for somebody that will save the country against President Trump.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  The campaign is not between, you know, Carney against Poliev and, you know, they are fighting against each other. No, both of them are fighting against Trump and with the tariff and their, you know, they are fake patriots. They are fake patriots. They're using that. They're using the fear of the tariffs and the economic situation in Canada uh and to to promote themselves.

• 59:50Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  With with a fake patriotism.

• 59:54Tucker Carlson?

  And and there is preexisting sensitivity about the United States. I mean, that's part of what it is to be Canadian. There is a love of the United, this is my read as an observer of your country. There's a love of the United States, a lot of Canadians love the United States. But there's also resentment because it's just so big and it's right there. And and that resentment is real. I mean, I've always felt it when I'm in Canada and they're basically and Trump has allowed them to do this. I mean, just to be honest about it.

• 1:00:20Speaker 01

  But we must understand what President Trump is doing. You know, the global view of all that. He started with tariffs. That's okay. It's a way for him to negotiate. We must not do counter tariffs in Canada, but the end goal is to repatriate the manufacturing industry in the US. And, you know, he wants to make America great again. He's fighting for you guys, for Americans. I want to do the same in Canada. I'm fighting for Canada. I'm fighting for Canadians. So it's okay to to want to have the manufacturing sector back in the US. For us in Canada, we just have to be more productive and lower taxes

• 1:01:02Speaker 01

  to businesses, having a more productive economy, a real free trade across the country. There's a way to do that for us to keep investment here in Canada, but our our policies are not efficient anymore. There are too many taxes, too many regulations. And so but what what President Trump is doing, the the real solution for that and the problem, it's because of your dollar, as you know, Tucker, the dollar is the world's world's reserve currency.

• 1:01:32Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  And because of that, you have the Triffin dilemma. So, you know, your dollar is very strong and other countries need your dollar because, you know, to for international transaction, to buy oil and gas, they need your dollars. So you are exporting your dollars. And, you know, your your your exports, exports are very expensive and not competitive because your dollar is so strong.

• 1:02:02Tucker Carlson?

  Exactly.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  The demand for your dollar is very strong. So and and your imports are very cheap. So the way to solve that, to be able to export, is to end the the dollar as the world reserve currency. But that that That would mean, uh, means a very tough transition.

• 1:02:24Tucker Carlson?

  Yes, it does.

• 1:02:25Speaker 01

  With inflation, all these dollars will come back to the US and that will create inflation. So i- i- we need, we need to end that, you know, fiat currency and going back to a gold standard. And that's why I believe, you know, gold, gold is coming to US right now. Uh, and I think something will happen, we'll have a monetary reset or something will happen. And here in Canada, we are not in a good position because our central bank, the Bank of Canada, doesn't have any gold reserve. So if we have a new monetary system.

• 1:02:57Tucker Carlson?

  You have no gold reserves?

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  No gold reserve.

• 1:02:59Tucker Carlson?

  Why?

• 1:03:00Speaker 01

  They, they sold all that.

• 1:03:01Tucker Carlson?

  They sold your gold reserves?

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. We have a lot of your treasuries, but we don't have any gold.

• 1:03:06Tucker Carlson?

  No.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  We are the only central banks, the only one in western, western worlds who, that doesn't have any gold.

• 1:03:15Tucker Carlson?

  But, but Canada is a huge gold producer.

• 1:03:17Speaker 01

  At least, at least we can produce gold, yeah.

• 1:03:20Tucker Carlson?

  A lot of gold. You have actually some of the deep, I think you've got some of the deepest gold reserves in the Canadian Mint.

• 1:03:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:25Tucker Carlson?

  Of course, your, your gold one ounce coins are currency or an investment.

• 1:03:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:31Tucker Carlson?

  Uh, for people around the world. That's interesting.

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  But our central, our central bank doesn't have any gold. So, so.

• 1:03:38Tucker Carlson?

  Who thought that was a good idea?

• 1:03:40Speaker 01

  I don't know, but, you know, they, they decided to sell all that couple of years ago. And so, and now we are in a very bad situation because I believe that, you know, the, the role of the US dollar will be very different.

• 1:03:55Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  Uh, something will happen, uh, to solve your problem about, you know, the manufacturing.

• 1:04:01Tucker Carlson?

  It's a blessing and a curse. No, that's right. Having the world's reserve currency is. And once the war in Ukraine started and sanctions were used as a, as a weapon, um, the dollar was used as a weapon. It was the end of the, long term. It was the beginning of the end of the US dollar.

• 1:04:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, the, the digitalization is coming and it's happening right now. So it's a question of time. But I understand that President Trump wants to. Do the transition, but it will hurt, it will be difficult.

• 1:04:31Tucker Carlson?

  Yes, it will.

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  And I, you know, I agree with him about his end goal to have manufacturing sector back in the US. I want the same in Canada. And so we must have a real, a good economic policies. And you know, the way to solve that, we have our Bank of Canada, did the same thing like the Fed during COVID-19. We printed a lot of money. Now we have that inflation. And I'm the only politician who's saying, you know, we need to have a zero inflation target with the Bank of Canada. Our Bank of Canada has a target of 2% inflation every year. 20% inflation, Tocor is bad. 2% inflation is bad. We need to have zero inflation like that. Everybody will keep their

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  purchasing power. And so, and if you want to have that, you need to have a balanced budget. So we balance the budget in first year. We tell the Bank of Canada a zero inflation target. We have surplus, and all the surplus must go to lower taxes to Canadians. And you know, a flat tax on business, no more capital gains tax. That's our proposal for Canadians to have a better and a more productive economy. Poliev won't speak about that. Carney won't speak about that. But we need to tackle that. President Trump is doing that right now. He's trying to do that right now. There's a cost to that, but at least he's not kicking the can down the road.

• 1:05:57Tucker Carlson?

  For sure.

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  Like everybody did before him.

• 1:06:00Tucker Carlson?

  If you have debt levels at the level that Canada, certainly in the United States, much bigger debt than Canada's, you, the government needs inflation.

• 1:06:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:09Tucker Carlson?

  The government creates inflation because that's the only way to get out of the debt, right?

• 1:06:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:13Tucker Carlson?

  No one says that.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  No, no.

• 1:06:15Tucker Carlson?

  This is like a product of choices that our policymakers consciously make in order to. You know, inflate down the debt.

• 1:06:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that's that's what happened after the Second World War in Canada. You know, we had in the 1940s, we had 10 years of inflation to pay for the the debt that we had after the war. So now, you know, not only the US, Canada and all Western countries, you know, have huge debt, huge deficit. So something will happen. So and, you know, we will have to reevaluate gold. We may have a kind of a gold standard, but inflation is bad for the population. It's good for government because they can print money, print money and, you know, giving us a lot of a lot of gifts with, you know, paying for a lot of programs.

• 1:07:07Speaker 01

  But, you know, that is creating inflation. And now you have inflation in the US and we have inflation in Canada and we may have that inflation for the next five, 10 years. That's the way to deal with the debt. And I'm saying that, you know, the deficit of today are the taxes of tomorrow or the inflation of tomorrow. So the inflation is coming, is there and it is coming. And when you have inflation, what will happen after that? Interest rate, they will have to go up. So we are in a very difficult situation, Canada and US and and other, you know, Western countries right now. So that's why what Trump is doing by all these tariffs is asking all these countries come and have a negotiation.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  But I believe the negotiation won't be on tariffs. It will be of a new monetary order. We need that.

• 1:07:57Tucker Carlson?

  I think that's right. And it's inevitable. You know, we're getting it.

• 1:08:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:00Tucker Carlson?

  De-dollarization is real and it's and again, it's just inexorable. You can't stop it. So it does seem big picture. If you're just looking at the world, a lot of these conflicts are about resources.

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:11Tucker Carlson?

  Like physical things.

• 1:08:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:12Tucker Carlson?

  Oil and gas, iron ore, bauxite, grain, gold, I mean, right? Uranium. Um, Canada has a lot of, not all, but a lot of those things, some of the deepest deposits in the world, water. Canada has massive amounts of fresh water. So I'm wondering what's happening to all your resources? Is anyone paying attention? You, I mean, because China needs the resources.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:35Tucker Carlson?

  To fuel its manufacturing, Asian, broadly speaking, Asian needs those resources. Are they still under Canadian control?

• 1:08:43Speaker 01

  It's a good question because China tried to buy some of our resources a couple of years ago, and at least the federal government did stop that. So yes, it is under our control. But the problem is not who is controlling our natural resources, it's we are not able to exploit them with our regulations and taxes. The last 10 years, the Trudeau government told, you know, the industry, the mining industry, and, oh, you know, oil and gas, we need to get rid of that. It's not, it's not clean, and we cannot exploit that. So he put a lot of regulations. We cannot have pipeline. We cannot exploit and export our

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  natural resources. No pipelines. So, and that's, that's the problem. It's the regulations. And the fact that the federal government is doing everything to stop the exploitation of our natural resources. Trudeau did everything to do that, and he was successful. So now we don't have any pipelines. And so we are sending our oil and gas to you guys, to the US, at a discount, because we cannot have access to another, to other markets. So, good for you, but bad for us. So, we need to do that. And we are, this country, Canada, can be a great country if we have the right policies.

• 1:10:03Tucker Carlson?

  So, I don't, I mean, it's very obvious that climate change has been going on since the beginning of time, right? The climate, we had glaciers, now we don't, et cetera, et cetera. The climate is always changing. Natural phenomenon are responsible for the overwhelming amount of that change, not human activity. Like, that's just science. Anyone says otherwise is a freaking liar. Over 90% is caused by...

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. And we need more CO2.

• 1:10:29Tucker Carlson?

  Exactly. But like, a country like Russia... Which is slightly more rational than the West, I would say, looks at climate change and says, "Well, wow, this is good for us because we're a really cold country and huge parts of our of our country are inaccessible because of cold and if it gets warmer, that's like good for us."

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:47Tucker Carlson?

  That would be especially true for Canada. There are whole parts of Canada, I mean, Canada's like much bigger than the United States and everyone in Canada is 50 miles from the US border. Like, why wouldn't like Hudson Bay be a, I mean, there's so much opportunity in climate change in Canada. Does anyone ever say that?

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, but no, it's bad. No, it's bad climate.

• 1:11:06Tucker Carlson?

  But how is it bad if you're Canada? I don't really get that.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  No, it is not bad, but for them, it is so bad that we must fight that. And it's so bad that we think that we can control the climate. It's crazy. We can, we, human, can control the climate by, you know, regulation and things like that. It's so complex that we cannot. But, but there's no climate emergency. Can you understand that?

• 1:11:33Tucker Carlson?

  Well, but also there's, we can't control the climate.

• 1:11:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, we can't. You're right about that.

• 1:11:38Tucker Carlson?

  Right, because we're not God. Canada was a religious country. Even when I was a kid, the French Canadians were very religious. They built all through the, you know, Northern New England, there are all these, you know, temple cathedrals built by-

• 1:11:49Speaker 01

  Catholics, yeah.

• 1:11:50Tucker Carlson?

  Big time. And now they're all empty, sadly, but, and those cities are all African. But, but anyway, there was a time when Canada was a very religious country. Now it seems like one of the most non-religious atheist countries in the world. Is that your-

• 1:12:03Speaker 01

  But we are not promoting our history as a country with that multiculturalism act. You know, you can come here and, you know, and keep your, your culture and don't integrate to our society. But that being said, in our constitution, it is written in our constitution that this country has been built on the supremacy of God and the rule of law. That's part of our constitution. But yes, actually, the, we, freedom of religions exists in our country and I'm okay with that. But I, I hope that we can promote our history. You know, this country, Canada, has been built, we know, with settler from France, France, from UK,

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  from, and, and with indigenous people. But the new immigrants who are coming here, they don't know the history of this country. You know, I've been traveling across the country and I deliver a speech and they told me, "Maxime, you're an immigrant also." I'm not an immigrant, I'm a settler. You know, my descendants are French.

• 1:13:09Speaker 01

  You know, I'm not, I didn't, I didn't come to this country 20 years ago. You know, my roots are deep in this country, in Canada. So, so we need to, that's why we need to stop that mass immigration and, and promote our history, our values, our values, our culture.

• 1:13:26Tucker Carlson?

  What does your license plate say in Quebec?

• 1:13:28Speaker 01

  Je me souviens.

• 1:13:29Tucker Carlson?

  What does that mean?

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  I remember.

• 1:13:30Tucker Carlson?

  I remember, exactly.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need to remember.

• 1:13:33Tucker Carlson?

  But you don't remember, it seems like.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  No, we don't.

• 1:13:36Tucker Carlson?

  So, um, last question. How does this, I mean, it does seem like any country, ours definitely, US definitely included, reaches a tipping point with population where there are just too many people who have no roots in the country.

• 1:13:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:52Tucker Carlson?

  That have different alien agendas and it basically becomes unmanageable and there's sort of no turning back. The country can never be what it was. You can't make it great again. How far is Canada from that?

• 1:14:03Speaker 01

  I'm looking in the UK right now, what's happening there and in France. We are not there, but we are near. If we, you know, I said 10 years ago, we need to have a maximum of 100, not 10 years, eight years ago, we need to have a maximum of 150,000 immigrants a year. Didn't, and at that time I was a racist because I was speaking like that, but now I was not. And, you know, and now I'm saying we need to have that moratorium because, you know, we had mass immigration. But if we don't stop, in 10 years, I, I told you, you know, 1.97% of our population, the growth of our population is coming from immigration.

• 1:14:45Speaker 01

  If we have that two, three or five years more, I, you know, trouble will, trouble will be on the street more often than they are right now. So, answering your question, Taker, we are near. We are near that, you know, we may have lost our country. And that's why I'm saying, you know, I want to save this country and we, the People's Party, are the only, the only hope for this country. Let's stop that mass immigration, have time to integrate all these people and, you know, it will, we will be able to regain our country. But if we don't do that, I'm scared. I'm scared for the future of our country.

• 1:15:24Tucker Carlson?

  Well, your Canadian refugees are always welcome here. I mean it. I'm gonna continue my defense of Canada as a really-

• 1:15:32Speaker 01

  And you have a nice weather, so here in Furia.

• 1:15:35Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, I like cold weather, so I love Canada. Maxime, thank you very much.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  Thank you, Parker. That was fun.

• 1:15:45Tucker Carlson?

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