Pod Insights The Tucker Carlson Show Banned Opposition Leader Călin Georgescu: Antony Blinken & Emmanuel Macron Killed Romanian Democracy About this episode Călin Georgescu is the most popular political figure in Romania and one of the bravest and wisest politicians in the world. This fall he ran for president on a platform against “war, technocracy and debt” and would have won, until the Biden administration pushed to cancel the election and have him arrested as a Russian agent.
(00:00) The Globalist Mafia Attacking Georgescu
(06:46) Why They Fear a Free an Anti-war Romania
(17:08) Georgescu’s Reaction to Being Barred From Running for Office
(23:05) Why They Need Romania to Launch WWIII
(28:10) Will They Try to Imprison Georgescu?
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0:32 Speaker 01 First of all, I wish to in fact to mention that all my, I used to guarantee in fact that all my actions represent nothing but a selfless sense of duty to my people, to my Romanian people. And of course, I have a dream of freedom and dignity for the Romanian people. I was denied by the globalist mafia, which they control this region like a colony.
1:13 Speaker 01 And of course, it's the same, let's say, intelligence group also present in this region, as well as the group which they tried to destroy the campaign of President Trump as well. It was just a copy paste with different subjects, including that I was falsely accused about foreign interference, particularly, of course, the Russian interference, exactly as President Trump was accused in the past.
1:54 Speaker 01 Nevertheless, there are not evidence.
1:58 Speaker 01 And of course, related with this foreign interference, I would just to mention that rules a system 100% in Romania was, and it is, coordinated and controlled by foreign interference. Before these elections was controlled by the former Secretary of State from the United States, Blinken, and all the neocons. And after the
2:31 Speaker 01 President Trump and Trump Vance administration is totally controlled by France.
2:38 Speaker 01 So, actually, the current Romanian president today is
2:46 Speaker 01 President of France Macron. So, Sărg Macron, if I can say, yeah.
2:51 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
2:53 Speaker 01 In any case, the point is that
3:00 Speaker 01 very clear, I was an outsider. And because I was an outsider, they didn't control or didn't, let's say, had any suspicion in the early beginning, in the first round, about this I'm speaking.
3:18 Speaker 01 And my narrative was totally devoted to my people and was totally related with what we can do alone, how we can be Romanian independence.
3:34 Speaker 01 And with this narrative, including a program which I present for Romania, food, water and energy, I succeed in the first round on the first place.
3:47 Speaker 01 And in the moment when you are outsider, of course, they alert immediately because they can lose, they realize they can lose the power and the money.
4:03 Speaker 01 Moreover, the most important point was in the moment when I said, when I pronounced the word "peace", the immediate they alerted, in the moment when I said "peace", because they need war. And this was the main important point. After the first round, everything, let's say the system was alerted immediately, and everybody knows that the Romanian people that was for interference, which they control totally the situation,
4:42 Speaker 01 and of course, the system in Romania, just they put into practice what they decide, in a sense to ban me immediately. So in the second round, what started in December 6, with Romanian living outside of the country, we had three days voting process. So we start on 6, was 7 and 8 in Romania. So in the day of 6, in the afternoon, they cancelled totally the elections.
5:26 Speaker 01 The process was started in the morning. Until afternoon, I had almost 70%. And they stopped, they cancelled. So the second round of election was illegally and unconstitutionally cancelled. They stolen the vote totally. And they accused me, as I said, they falsely accused me about Russian interference. Of course, there are no evidence, and until today, when me and you, we have this interview, is no evidence at all.
6:06 Speaker 01 Just to underline that it's copy paste as President Trump suffered a lot during his campaign, absolutely the same situation. They didn't come with any new stuff, just the same one. But in any case, they consider that they don't have to come back anymore to the second rounds. And they promote another elections, which they are coming in the month of May this year, so in one month from now, which is another fraud even bigger than before.
6:49 Speaker 01 This I wish to be very clear. I made an application also for the second elections. They blocked me again. And in this moment, legally, I have not the right to participate to any campaign for the position as President of Romania. I wish to mention to you the most important point, which in fact they alarmed them. And the most important is peace.
7:31 Speaker 01 Peace and freedom. Because to the second one, just I want to say that they have fear of free Romania more than fear of war. This I wish to be very clear. The second one, the most important topic on earth is peace. What kind of peace do I mean? Genuine peace, exactly as President Kennedy said in 1963 in front of American University. It was a fantastic speech and today is reality.
8:19 Speaker 01 This peace, this kind of peace, is the peace which makes life on earth happy.
8:29 Speaker 01 Children happy, families happy, happiness in general. What we have today, in one or two minutes I can tell you. Every third person says today, "I'm hungry." Every second person today says, "I'm thirsty." And almost everybody says, "I fear." This is a most important point of control of them.
9:04 Speaker 01 "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself," said President Roosevelt in 1933. And this is absolutely exactly today, the fear.
9:19 Speaker 01 So, confident, confident and unafraid, we must labor towards for the strategy of peace. This is a most important point.
9:33 Speaker 01 And I wish to ask you, one point also myself, you know, we know how much costs the war, but you know how much costs the peace? How much cost?
9:47 Speaker 01 How much cost it? Because everybody, we are talking about peace, but it's not implemented. So the only chance, in the real sense, which I can see, and this was the main important point in Romania, which I have seen also, not only what I said myself, but what they said Romanian people, is President Trump. It's only chance for everybody to arrive the peace, to back to democracy, not only in the United States. Everywhere.
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13:40 Speaker 01 And it's a chance also for Europe that we have President Trump, period. This is all. A lot of things just for one person, but of course, we are together. And I want to tell you that not only the Americans, citizens, they vote President Trump. Also, the Romanians, they vote President Trump because we are thinking about that, we pray for that, and also time we think to have President Trump in this position because otherwise, the situation could be very critical. Related particularly, that we want peace. And by the way, all my campaign,
14:26 Speaker 01 was just concentrate on peace. And I was accused by the, by media.
14:38 Speaker 01 "Why I'm talking about peace? Because they need war." All the time was this, all the campaign. I spoke about peace, they said war. I spoke about peace, they said war. They did not expect me to win the first round because I said about peace. And the people, they are looking for peace, of course.
15:05 Speaker 01 During the campaign, they asked me only for war, only, permanently. And permanently, I spoke about peace. So this was all the campaign. And of course, another point, very, very, very important, was my program Food, Water and Energy, because I present the... to change the economic system of Romania. And this was based, as everybody knows, about Hamilton ideology. I wish to make a Hamiltonian Romania, in a sense, to be totally independent,
15:49 Speaker 01 to provide performance economy, but depends only by your natural resources, not by debt. You know?
15:58 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
15:58 Speaker 01 So exactly this was the situation. So we can be a Hamiltonian powerhouse in Eastern Europe side, or also in Europe, just because we have to follow the best which we had in the world. And one of the best, which I recognize myself, is the founding father of the United States, Alexander Hamilton. So this was my presentation. And for this, I was accused that I'm not good enough for them.
16:32 Tucker Carlson? Well, you were prevented... I mean, your democracy was shut down. But if you're against war and against debt, you had to know that those are the two issues that really matter to the globalists, war and debt. They're in favor of both. So were you surprised when you were accused of being a Russian agent and kicked out of Romanian politics?
16:56 Speaker 01 You know, they cannot... How I can say?
17:04 Speaker 01 It's impossible to change so fast, you know. So I can tell you what they did. It's um, it's not surprise for me. They are not destroying the democracy. They are destroying lives. And it's not about democracy. It's about setting people free. This is very important to know. And this show to us one thing. That um, democracy, we have, we have not democracy.
17:47 Speaker 01 Because it's impossible to, to find so many things today. And to realize that in fact, where we had a democracy is not anymore. In fact, we have not in thirty five years. We had no democracy, you know.
18:05 Tucker Carlson? What, what role did US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken play in Romanian politics?
18:13 Speaker 01 So everybody knows that was a foreign intervention. And particularly from, from Secretary of State Blinken, that he intervene in the elections and simply dictate what the system have to do. And we, it's absolutely, you know, everybody knows about this situation. Including, of course, President Macron and Maia Sandu from Moldova as well. They intervene. But the most important was Secretary of State Blinken.
18:57 Tucker Carlson? What did he do and say that affected your election and Romanian politics?
19:06 Speaker 01 Well, simply was an intervention, they don't, very clear, they don't need
19:15 Speaker 01 free Romania.
19:18 Speaker 01 To be mentioned that the largest military base of NATO is in Romania. Probably you know about that.
19:30 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
19:31 Speaker 01 And of course, they want to
19:35 Speaker 01 to launch the World War III from Romania. And with this situation, of course, they can involve all Europe and also United States.
19:53 Speaker 01 So these, they have interest, they have interest in war.
19:56 Tucker Carlson? What do you mean they want to launch World War III from Romania?
20:00 Speaker 01 Because, let me tell you how is the situation. It's a key gateway which can can cancel, can protect the humanity to go in the war, or can go to the war. Why? Because it's the largest boundary which Romania has is Ukraine. We discussed about 380 miles only for Romania. In compare, Poland has almost 330 miles and Hungary around 80 miles. Geographically, it's very important as well.
20:43 Speaker 01 So the largest boundary,
20:48 Speaker 01 again, for Ukraine is Romania.
20:53 Speaker 01 And in this situation, of course, Romania is the asset for European Union, for Macron, in order to launch the war. Strategically, it's important. So number one
21:13 Speaker 01 is the most important strategical point, Romania. Number two is a security framework for the Black Sea. Number three is a regional influence, regional influence for Moldovars for the Black Sea. And also it's a leverage for economic and for energy situation.
21:33 Speaker 01 And they know about that. They know very well about that. They want to turn NATO on an offensive force. And we know very well that NATO is defensive
21:50 Speaker 01 organization.
21:54 Speaker 01 And this was my point all the time. First of all, I said it's not our war.
22:03 Speaker 01 We have nothing to do. The national interest is
22:09 Speaker 01 diplomatic negotiation and we can be a peace mediator, Romania.
22:17 Speaker 01 And they don't like that. Because they want to of course, they want to cover many things which even today we don't know exactly what. But they want to, they pushing, they pushing for war. And of course, my position was exactly against them. Was totally contrary that.
22:42 Speaker 01 So the most important is that the people are are behind me.
22:49 Speaker 01 And all the Romanian people, of course, they, the almost, the majority of Romanian people, of course, they have this position against any intervention and any participation for war.
23:06 Speaker 01 They know my position and of course, for this reason, they cancel immediately any way for me in order to arrive to candidates for presidency, even that today I have, even now, when me and you are talking, we have this interview. I have more than 50% of the voters are from my side.
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25:36 Tucker Carlson? What is your next move? Are you worried that these same forces will try and put you in jail, in prison?
25:44 Speaker 01 Well, um, was a subject, um, um, that, um, I was, um, arrested in traffic for almost six hours.
25:57 Speaker 01 I have almost three or four, um,
26:01 Speaker 01 um, files.
26:06 Speaker 01 Um, but, uh, you know, um,
26:11 Speaker 01 we, we don't give up.
26:16 Speaker 01 And I'm sure, um, one point that, um,
26:21 Speaker 01 if, um, United States particularly wants an alias, not a vessel, an alias, very strong. They have to support the patriots, particularly from Romania and other Brussels bureaucrats. So we are sure that in one day, everything can be turned.
26:46 Speaker 01 Today or tomorrow, it will happen. You know, Romania right now is the most important country in the world. It's Alpha and Omega for a new era of peace, of dignity, of love, prosperity. And I'm saying this because it's a boundary between bad and good. And this boundary have to be close. Because if we close this door for war, that's mean peace. If we open the, this key gate, as I said in the beginning, it's a war.
27:30 Speaker 01 And we don't have to have this. I mean, my opinion is that this war is a shame of humanity.
27:38 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
27:40 Speaker 01 And it's, um...
27:43 Speaker 01 There is not any rational, human justification for endorsing war.
27:53 Speaker 01 Doesn't exist.
27:56 Speaker 01 So, what they don't like is if Romania breaks free, we'll follow other countries. Understand me?
28:08 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
28:08 Speaker 01 So this they don't need. Will be a dominoes fall, okay? And this terrifies them, that one country, particularly Romania, to be free. But this is our values, which we want to share. This is our flag, which we want to share with the United States and also with other countries. Peace, democracy, and freedom.
28:38 Speaker 01 We don't give up. This is our values, and we have to go straight to that. Even the situation looks now complicated,
28:49 Speaker 01 in one day can be changed. Because we have been in our lands since time immemorial.
29:06 Speaker 01 So, we are here from the early beginning of the history.
29:14 Speaker 01 And all our
29:18 Speaker 01 history is playing by heroes, by kings, devoted to the country and to the land.
29:29 Speaker 01 Romanian people is a brave people, is a great people. And we discuss also that, exactly like MAGA make America great again, we said make Romania great again.
29:41 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
29:42 Speaker 01 Because we have a strong belief.
29:45 Speaker 01 In our power, we strongly believe in us.
29:50 Speaker 01 We strongly believe that this is our land, which we did receive from Brussels or from other countries, we receive from God with his power of love. We trust in God, we setting on energy resources. We love our families, we believe in Christianity and in Christian families. We believe in our land, so we shall win, sooner or later, we shall win. Of course, it's a matter of time, and I can understand, again, that you cannot change
30:34 Speaker 01 the system in one hour. My narrative exactly was this during the campaign. I don't want to change the people, I want to change the system.
30:45 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
30:46 Speaker 01 And for this, they are afraid about me and afraid about the people which are behind me. So, I recognize only one important partner, the United States, particularly in the moment when we have this administration, Trump, Vance. And President Trump is our guarantee that he can solve the situation in Europe, he can solve the situation as peace everywhere, because, you know, I can tell you that President Trump is not only a leader in the United States, he's a leader in the world, because a real
31:30 Speaker 01 leader, a leader in fact, save lives, don't send people to death.
31:43 Speaker 01 And if we know that, and if we believe on that, we strongly believe on that, we should succeed sooner or later. For this reason, I said that Romania is the most important country in the world. And I know very well what I'm saying, because it's exactly the key gates to close the door or to open the door, to open the war. To close the war or to open the war. So we can play a key role in a diplomatic negotiation, particularly in the moment when the communication is strong. And the communication is really strong between President Trump and President Putin. This we know very well.
32:28 Speaker 01 If the communication is strong, we shall be, we shall find a way in order to arrive for peace, because everybody, we need peace. And it's incredible that in a, in a turning medium, to have such a situation which demonstrates to all of us, to the humanity, that we lost the most important piece of power receiving from God for the human being, love. Of course, you have to negotiate everything very clearly.
33:09 Speaker 01 But more than that, you have to understand the humanity from us. And here we are today. We have to understand by our consciousness, the humanity from us, and don't lose the humanity from us.
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35:41 Speaker 01 You asked me, how did they kill democracy?
35:47 Speaker 01 Let me give you one example. So we are facing a serious violation of basic human rights, including political persecutions. Because our supporters, and the supporters particularly of my candidacy, including vulnerable people like pensioners, like single mothers, like young families, they have been abusively fined with 1,000 euros
36:32 Speaker 01 and subjected to home rights by economic or military units just based on posted on social media. And I want to tell you that one pensioner in Romania receives around 200, 300 dollars per month, and they receive a fine 1,000, 2,000 dollars just because they post on the social media, you know, sentence to support freedom,
37:16 Speaker 01 to support democracy, to support myself, and in fact to support peace. So freedom speech today is under attack, under serious attack, and severely restricted.
37:37 Speaker 01 And this is not good at all, including
37:42 Speaker 01 media, very important people.
37:46 Speaker 01 They are blocked on the social media for any sentence they want to say. Recent government's emergency ordinance
38:02 Speaker 01 bans electoral content
38:07 Speaker 01 on the social media unless
38:11 Speaker 01 the candidates for this campaign registered. And be careful, political
38:20 Speaker 01 party members, you know. So with another words, doesn't exist freedom of speech in Romania anymore.
38:30 Tucker Carlson? No.
38:31 Speaker 01 Moreover,
38:34 Speaker 01 the Romanian lives abroad.
38:39 Speaker 01 They also have been
38:42 Speaker 01 abusively restricted.
38:46 Speaker 01 They had three days of voting
38:51 Speaker 01 period, and this was suddenly cut by just few hours, limited by Romanian
39:03 Speaker 01 hours voting only. So the system tried to control everything, exactly like you remember very well in in this plandemia Covid, which they want to control us besides any other things. Also, they want to control the vote. And in the end, I can tell you that the most important is that we expose with this situation is corruption. You ask me how I can feel, how is the situation? I feel good because we exposed the corruption after so many years. We exposed them.
39:43 Speaker 01 The dramatic situation where we are, that in fact, we have not any more democracy. Because it's impossible, even that was a foreign interference or other interference by whatever, because I said, I was based on voluntary support in my campaign. But even was interference, how you can destroy the democracy, you know, in few weeks? This does mean that we have not democracy anymore. And here we are. Moreover, of course, they don't like the position, the system of President Trump
40:26 Speaker 01 and in general, the position of administration Trumpists. And they are totally related with what European Union does right now. And you know very well that European Union establish a globalist government with unelected people. Even Ursula von der Leyen is not elected person. Was just nominate. So we have to fight globalist globally.
41:09 Speaker 01 This I wish to mention, globally. We cannot accept just islands of sovereignty in the ocean of globalists. We have to understand that we need a global network of sovereignty countries. So we have to build union of countries which we fight for sovereignty. Because the flag of peace, democracy and freedom, which United States today has, we have to keep also this flag. And all the countries around us.
41:55 Speaker 01 And in fact, all of us, we have to work and to fight for peace. Not just to stay to wait a decision from someone. It's in our capacity to demonstrate that a human being has a power to fight for peace and for democracy. Otherwise, we are just slaves. You know, I was accused that I want to kick out Romania from European Union and from NATO. So my answer, also at the time, was the following: I like the alliance
42:39 Speaker 01 only if they serve the nations, not to enslave it. I wish to be very clear: not to enslave it. In this moment, we are just a client state. Just a client state. And this must end. Because we are not slaves. We are free people. And I said to you from the very beginning, I have a dream. And my dream is freedom, dignity for the Romanian people. For this, we have to fight.
43:23 Speaker 01 And we don't give up. Because we know that it's in our power and together with God, we can succeed. Because God is with us. And it's normal to be this situation because show us how wrong was this system? And how many problems? And how I can say, violation of the human rights they did until today. So it's very important that the corruption was exposed. And all the situation was exposed.
44:07 Speaker 01 Because we are living under a cartel of censorship.
44:21 Speaker 01 The law fair. They are using the law just for them, you understand me?
44:28 Tucker Carlson? Yes.
44:29 Speaker 01 Not for the people. Exactly as President Trump
44:36 Speaker 01 had all these problems in the campaign, because censorship is a political police.
44:45 Speaker 01 A political persecution and legal abuse, which we are facing today.
44:54 Speaker 01 It's a situation which is incredible to have in a third millennium. To have in the situation when we consider that we are in European Union, we are NATO members. You know, we have a common understanding about what we have to do. No, this is not. And we have to change the system, exactly as I propose to change the economic system. Exactly as I said about Hamilton presence and ideology. We have to change all these things. Otherwise, we remain just as slaves in our own country.
45:39 Speaker 01 We have rich natural resources. We have to consider that
45:48 Speaker 01 we have to base on our natural resources, not to that. Because what they offer to us? They offer technocracy and that. And I propose to Romanian people and to other countries, freedom and dignity. This is my offer, instead of technocracy and that.
46:13 Speaker 01 If they prefer this, they prefer because they, they, they abuse all these people so many years. And exactly as I said, they have fear of free country as Romania could be. Thank you.
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