Tom Homan’s Plan to Destroy the Cartel Empire, End Child Trafficking, and Secure the Border for Good

Which government has killed more Americans: Iran or Mexico? Tom Homan is the new border czar and he knows the answer. (00:00) Tom Homan’s Detailed Plan to Fix the Border (08:24) How to End the Cartel Drug Empire (26:21) Biden Auctioning Off the Border Wall (29:42) The Corruption of Alejandro Mayorkas (35:51) The Prioritization of Illegal Immigrants Over Americans (46:20) What Happened to Mayor Eric Adams? (1:02:00) How Many Deportations Are Coming? Paid partnerships with: ExpressVPN: Get 3 months free at https://ExpressVPN.com/Tucker Heritage Foundation: https://Heritage.org/Tucker PureTalk: Get 50% off first month at https://PureTalk.com/Tucker Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:30Tucker Carlson?

  So you're pretty much the first person Trump chose after he got elected. I think it was the end of that week, right?

• 0:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I believe I was.

• 0:39Tucker Carlson?

  Can you summarize in one sentence what you plan to do with the job?

• 0:43Speaker 03

  Well, look, we had a discussion that night and he gave me three rails, three things he wants me to do. Number one is secure the border.

• 0:51Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 0:51Speaker 03

  Shut the border down. Number two, run the biggest deportation operation this country's ever seen. And third, he wants me to lead an effort to find the over 300,000 missing children that were trafficking to this country, and this administration cannot locate them.

• 1:21Tucker Carlson?

  Welcome to the Tucker Carlson Show. We bring you stories that have not been showcased anywhere else, and they're not censored, of course, because we're not gatekeepers. We are honest brokers here to tell you what we think you need to know and do it honestly. Check out all of our content at tuckercarlson.com. Here's the episode. So, seal the border, deport the illegals, find the missing children, 300,000.

• 1:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:45Tucker Carlson?

  Let's go in order. Seal the border. What has happened? Do you have a sense now, over a month after Trump's victory, of just how big the invasion was under Biden? Do we know?

• 1:58Speaker 03

  Well, we know it. We can document over 10 million encounters, 10.5 that we can document. Then we can document over 2 million gotaways, right? These are known gotaways. What is a known getaway? These are people we captured, captured an image on drone video.

• 2:14Tucker Carlson?

  Is that in addition to the 10?

• 2:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17Tucker Carlson?

  So at least 12 million people?

• 2:20Speaker 03

  Have been encountered at a border. 10.5 been encountered, over 2, we got it, we got it. We know there are gotaways because there is a... We captured drone traffic, video traffic, or sensor traffic, and border patrol sober one that couldn't respond. So we know at least 12.5 million people at that border.

• 2:40Tucker Carlson?

  So that's like, that's like New York plus Chicago.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  It's a historic number, which is one of the reasons why I wake up pissed off every day because we went from the most secure border in my lifetime. I started in 1984 as a border patrol agent, worked for six presidents.

• 2:57Tucker Carlson?

  Where did you start, by the way?

• 2:59Speaker 03

  I was a border patrol agent, Campo, California, San Diego sector.

• 3:02Tucker Carlson?

  Yep.

• 3:03Speaker 03

  But to go from the most secure border in my lifetime under President Trump, based on data, right? That's just my opinion, that's data. Go from the most secure border in my lifetime to historic illegal immigration in one administration? That's by design. That's not mismanagement. That's by design.

• 3:20Tucker Carlson?

  What do you think the goal was?

• 3:22Speaker 03

  You know, I asked a lot of you, why would anybody open the border up? I think Joe Biden's the first president in American history who came in office and unsecured a border. I worked for, you know, six presidents. Obama and Clinton took steps to secure the border because they understood you can't possibly can't have, there's no way you can have strong national security. If you're on border security, you need to know what's coming, who's coming, where it's coming, and why it's coming. Joe Biden's first president who came in office and unsecured a border, and people ask me all the time, why? I think they see a future political benefit. I think they see, think these people will be future Democratic voters, number one. Two, but we don't even have to get there, right Tucker? I mean, when Biden signed over 90 executive orders, getting rid of everything we did, he also overturned

• 4:04Speaker 03

  the Trump census rule, where man's illegal aliens be counted in all these sanctuary cities, which is going to result in more seats in the House for the Dems, and they re-proportionate seats in the House.

• 4:14Tucker Carlson?

  Can that be undone?

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. I think President Trump needs to, when he gets back in, when he needs to establish the other census rule, illegal aliens should not be counted in the census.

• 4:24Tucker Carlson?

  Well, yeah, because illegal foreign citizens, non-Americans, should not be able to determine how many members of Congress you have and where they sit.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Exactly. I think President Trump will reinstitute the game-changing policies he had during the first administration. So we can secure the border. We did it before. This time, we're going to finish the job.

• 4:45Tucker Carlson?

  How many came through Canada? Do you know?

• 4:47Speaker 03

  I don't have it off the top of my head, but I know the number, depending on what sector you look at, is 600 to 800% increase on the northern border. Specifically in upstate New York where I grew up, and I still have a home up there. So I'm very familiar with that area and I talk to border patrol chiefs up there all the time. Northern New York has a huge problem and the problem with northern border, a lot of SIA's come through the northern border. They can afford to fly to Canada and cross the northern border, which is wide open because there's a lot of border and very few agents. So a lot of Indians, a lot of Pakistani, a lot of Turkish come through the northern border.

• 5:28Tucker Carlson?

  I mean, who organized this? You say it was by design.

• 5:34Tucker Carlson?

  There are a lot of NGOs involved, the United Nations is involved, a bunch of religious charities, pretty evil religious charities in my opinion, involved in this, but they seem to be coordinating with one another. Do we understand exactly what happened?

• 5:49Speaker 03

  You know, we're still looking into it. I think under the Trump administration, it needs to be investigation and what happened, who was involved. I know I've had numerous conversations with Mark Green, who's the chairman of Homeland Oversight. He plans on having some oversight hearings on this, specifically when it relates to the NGOs. You know, I think they were complicit, a lot of this illegal immigration and certainly United Nations were south of our border, working on this global illegal immigration to the United States. So I'm counting on the new Congress, which we now have control of both the House and the Senate, to conduct oversight hearings and hold people accountable. There's no way, again, there's no way this is mismanagement or incompetence. This is

• 6:29Speaker 03

  by design. And do I think Joe Biden had the expertise to do it? No, I think someone's pulling his strings. So this is something that needs to be fully investigated. People need to be held accountable because...

• 6:40Tucker Carlson?

  Well, they need to go wreck the country. They need to go to prison.

• 6:43Speaker 03

  They created the biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen. We got a record number of people on terrorist vessels being arrested. We got 2.2 million people and this is my biggest issue I brought up for the last two years. It's just not about illegal immigration anymore. You caused a crisis this big that overwhelmed the border patrol, where many times 70% of agents were pulled off the line, dealing with this humanitarian crisis, right? Changing diapers, making baby formula, making hospital runs, doing that humanitarian... Mission, leaving thirty percent of our Homeland Security officials left secure on the border. There was times in the last two years where a hundred percent, one hundred percent of border patrol were pulled off the line, such as in El Paso. Because when they, when they got overcrowded, this administration said, wait, we can't have overcrowding.

• 7:28Speaker 03

  That's a bad optic. So let's pull every agent off the line, process as quick as possible, release as quick as possible, because if there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here, the border's so secure. So, when you, when, when you overwhelm the border patrol, that's when the bad things happen. That's when we got 2.2 million gotaways, right? That's when the Fentanyl comes across to kill a quarter million Americans. That's, that's why sex trafficking of women and children's up 600%. That's why the number of migrant deaths is, is that a historic high? So, this, what they people call this innocent illegal immigration crisis, made a lot of bad things happen because the border patrol is strictly overwhelmed and couldn't do the national security.

• 8:08Tucker Carlson?

  Well, it changed the culture of the United States, which is worse than any of the things that you, and more permanent than any of the things you listed. You can't run in and change people's ancient culture. Been here for 250 years, you can't do that. Um, no, it's the worst crime ever committed against the US, worse than the Civil War, in my opinion. Um, so, but, the question is, like, who did this and why? So the United Nations, we pay the largest share of the UN budget. You know, we should have some ability to control what the UN does, but they commit this act of war against us. Do we know who did at the UN and why?

• 8:42Speaker 03

  I do not, but it's something that's going to be, I, I believe it should be investigated. I'm pushing people, I'm coming to the administration with it, we need to investigate it. Again, I've, I've talked to numerous representatives on the Hill, that swear they're going to have hearings on this. And we need to, the American people need to know exactly what happened, who was responsible.

• 9:02Tucker Carlson?

  Do you think that the fentanyl traffickers known as the cartels, I guess, I'm not exactly sure what that means, I'd like to ask you actually, but you keep reading and hearing that they have control of parts of the southwestern United States. First of all, what is a cartel? Who are they? Where are they from? And do you think that's true?

• 9:26Speaker 03

  Well, criminal cartels in Mexico, they are born out of the narcotics smuggling industry in Mexico, and they're powerful. Look, they're like a Fortune 500 company.

• 9:35Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  These are not a gang anymore, right? Jalisco cartels is, they're in over 45 countries of the world, right? And not only are they responsible for moving narcotics in this country, they're also, they're currently in every major city in the United States, because not only are they smuggling the drugs in the United States, they're taking over the distribution within the United States, right? So, again, and I said this at the RNC, and President Trump agrees with me, these criminal cartels have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined, right?

• 10:08Tucker Carlson?

  Than every war, more than Second World War.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  So that's why they need to be designated terrorist organizations and wiped off the face of the earth, and it's going to take the United States to do it. Mexico has failed to do it, even if they tried to do it. Bottom line is, much of the Mexican military, much of the Mexican law enforcement, much of the Mexican government's corrupt, that's just a fact.

• 10:26Tucker Carlson?

  Well, then, why, okay, so I noticed that the incoming administration just basically toppled the prime minister of Canada, who's a thoroughly evil person, called Justin Trudeau, and by, just by threatening tariffs. They kind of fixed the Canada problem, Trump fixed it in about, I don't know, 20 minutes. But how much more leverage do we have over Mexico? I mean, we're the entire economy of Mexico. Why don't we do that with Mexico?

• 10:48Speaker 03

  Well, we are. President Trump has threatened tariffs, and she's, the president seems, seems to say she's going to help. We'll see if her actions match her words. But President Trump has a lot of power over Mexico. Look, the tariffs alone, Mexico needs us more than we need them, right? And look, I'm not saying every cop, every soldier, every politician in Mexico is corrupt, but many are, that's just a fact. When I was ICE Director, we had vetted units we worked with, law enforcement down there, we vetted them, so we can work with them, but we didn't even tell the vetted units everything we know, because we just couldn't be sure, right? But President Trump has a lot of leverage. Remember, when I became Boric later in 1984, one of my first assignments out of the academy was protecting a port of entry in Tucatay,

• 11:30Speaker 03

  California, because we had a DEA agent that was tortured and murdered, Kiki Camarana.

• 11:36Tucker Carlson?

  I remember very well.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  And they wouldn't help us to identify and turn over the people responsible. Ronald Reagan shut down the port of entries. And what, it take them two days? All of a sudden, we know who committed the crime, and so President Trump can obviously do that. He can end all the visas, end the tourist visas, the business visas. There's a lot of power he has over Mexico, and he needs... President Trump's willing to do whatever it takes to protect our sovereignty and protect this country, and he's ready to do it. He proved it the first time, you know, when Remain in Mexico program. Mexico didn't want to do that. Third State of Country agreements, Mexico didn't want to do that. They didn't want to put 10,000 military on their border, where President Trump threatened them with tariffs, and they came to the table.

• 12:18Tucker Carlson?

  There are so many nice Mexican people, I mean, most Mexican people I met I really like, that we forget that the government's very anti-American, is not our ally in any sense. We spend all this energy being mad at Assad, whoever, who cares? And we live next to this country that's helping to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans every year. No one ever says anything about it. Don't you think it would be worth shifting some of that emotional energy and military resources to, like, countries right next to us who are hurting us?

• 12:46Speaker 03

  I'm 100% with you, and that's why I've been pushing for Mexico to come to the table and be accountable. It's against the law in Mexico to trafficking women and children, but they don't do anything about it. It's against the law in Mexico to transit to that country. If you're from another country, well, a transit visa, but they allow it. I mean, look at the beast, the big train that thousands of people came on every weekend. They didn't do anything until President Trump got in office and had them put a stop to it. I mean, but good thing is, a lot of countries are willing to come to the table right now. Mexico says they're going to, let's see what they do. I'll be deeply involved in those conversations. Panama, Panama wants to come to the table and help the United States secure our border by shutting down the Darien Gap. This administration said they're going to do it. Secretary Mayorkas said he was going to do it.

• 13:31Speaker 03

  Panama never got any funding to do it, and they never got anything done with this administration. They're coming to the table again. We will shut down Darien Gap, but please help us. We will help them. Darien Gap, shutting the Darien Gap down would be a huge game changer on illegal migration to this country.

• 13:47Tucker Carlson?

  But again, given the economic leverage the United States has, that shouldn't take more than a weekend, right?

• 13:55Speaker 03

  It's gonna be pretty quick. I mean, we're gonna, we're gonna come to the table, what we need Mexico to do. Remain in Mexico program, a game changer. That needs to happen quickly. That was a game changer. Cause after about two months, they stopped coming. They stopped coming because they knew they weren't being released into the United States to not show up in court. And even if they show up in court, no one's looking to remove them because on this administration, ICE can't arrest somebody for simply being illegally in the United States. Secretary of Commerce has made that clear. They gotta have a criminal conviction before ICE even look at them, even though they're illegally here. So the Remain in Mexico is a game changer. They stopped coming. They stopped selling everything they had, giving the cartels every dollar they had to come to the United States to be released.

• 14:38Speaker 03

  When the Remain in Mexico program came into power, came into place, they stopped coming. When they stopped coming, look at the lives that were saved. Look at the money that was saved. If, if someone is really escaping fear and persecution from their homeland, from their government, home government, if they're really escaping fear and persecution, they're gonna be willing to wait in Mexico for the hearing. But most of them know.

• 14:58Tucker Carlson?

  But why would the US take anybody who's, I mean, why is it our job, given our appalling track record around the world of like, trying to make things better, you make them worse because the world's super complicated? Why do we have an obligation to take anybody from anywhere, ever? I don't really get, where does that come from?

• 15:16Speaker 03

  Well, that was the genius of the Remain in Mexico program, right? Cause President Trump, I remember sitting in the office one day, we're talking about this and I was trying to explain to him, and he understood clearly what the whole situation asylum is. I told him that if you look at the data, immigration court data, about nine out of 10 people who claim asylum at our border, never get relief from the US government because they simply don't qualify, or they don't show up in court. Then you look at the Homeland Security Life Cycle Report, a report that's put up with Homeland Security.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  For instance, family units, for those that were ordered removed, only 6% leave. So I explained to President Trump, nine out of 10 don't even have a valid claim, but when that nine out of 10 gets ordered removed, 6% leave. He says, you know, he didn't take him long, he said, why the hell are we doing this? Yeah. So let's not let them in, let's have a remain in Mexico program. If you're really escaping fair and persecution, you wait in Mexico. If you win your case, which are very few, walk them to the United States. But if you don't win your case, we don't have to go find you. And we're not putting this message out of catch and release, so people keep coming, knowing they're going to be released in the United States, at the same time, knowing when they lose their case, no one's looking to remove them. That whole dynamic's going to change. Yes. Right, because I've said, I've been real clear since the day President Trump appointed

• 16:33Speaker 03

  me, if you're in the country illegally, you got a problem. Right? If we don't take the judge's order, immigration court, when you order you're removed, he gets a deportation officer, deportation order. If we don't execute those orders, then what the hell are we doing? Shut down the immigration court, doesn't mean, don't mean anything anymore. Take the border, draw the border, because there's no consequences for entering this country illegally. We'll give you due process, but when you're ordered removed, you're going to be removed. Or if we don't, we send the message to the whole world, you can enter the country illegally, which is a crime, you can see a judge or not see a judge, get an order removal, no one's looking for you. And that's what the Democrats are doing in this administration. They have overwhelmed the system, released the millions of this country, immigration,

• 17:15Speaker 03

  the court dock has pushed back seven, maybe as much as nine years, like in New York. By that time, when they get an order removal, they got two or three USC kids. Right? Then everybody's complaining, you can't remove that guy, he's got three USC kids. When I was ICE Director, I got calls from Republican senators, why'd you remove that person, he has two USC children? Well, he didn't have two USC children to enter country illegally, he didn't have two USC children. You get calls from Republican senators? Oh, absolutely. They're the worst. And I said, I said, well, what's my option? He had due process, a great taxpayer expense. He was already moved by a federal judge. The option is just a mistake. And if we're going to do that, how many more you want to stay? Then we got to send a clear message. We're in national laws. You get ordered, moved, you're going to be removed. If not, we send a message to the whole world.

• 18:00Speaker 03

  Enter illegally, commit a crime, go have a US citizen child, and you're off the hook.

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• 21:17Tucker Carlson?

  Is there any way to move millions of Haitians into rich, white, liberal neighborhoods? I mean it. I mean it. The people who did this are rich, white liberals in the United States who hate themselves and the country. And to punish it, they invited all these people illegally from failed countries. But they can't stand the idea of living near these people because they're racist. So why wouldn't you move every Haitian to Bethesda, and Brookline, and Aspen, and Martha's Vineyard, and Nantucket, like today? Can we do that? I will donate money if we can do that.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Well, absolutely could. Look what the Martha's Vineyard did. They put them on their account. Like, you know, this whole thing-

• 21:52Tucker Carlson?

  They called the cops immediately because they're racist.

• 21:54Speaker 03

  Governor Abbott done more to secure this border than anybody in this administration. Guy's great. DeSantis is the same. Do you know who first came up with the idea of busing people to sanctuary cities? It was President Trump. I remember sitting in the Oval Office one time, he said, why don't we do that? So we started putting plans together. But the Remain in Mexico program was such a game changer. We couldn't fill a bus up if we wanted to. So we beat the, we, we beat the problem before we got, actually got to that.

• 22:19Tucker Carlson?

  The problem, though, is that the people doing it didn't have a precise enough understanding of rich, white liberal culture, but I do. So they would bus them to New York, then they wind up in Midtown in Queens. Okay, none of the people who are doing this were affected by it. But I could give you a list of zip codes where like Tony Blinken lives and stuff like that. Cause I know that world. They need to be moved into the neighborhoods of the people who are calling you racist for wanting to have laws and borders. Like they need to feel the effects of their own destruction. Um, so just text me and I will send you the zip codes. I mean it too. Cause what happened is they opened the borders and then all these people like moved to Jackson, Wyoming to the least diverse zip codes in the, in the country.

• 23:02Tucker Carlson?

  They literally ran to the hills to get away from diversity.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  I think we need to add to that, though, the, the senators and congressmen are pushing back on any border, border security.

• 23:12Tucker Carlson?

  100%.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  You know, moving illegal aliens right outside of the Vice President Kamala Harris's residence. That was a game changer too. So I think not only, not only those who are well financed, how about the politicians who are pushing back against any, any form of enforcement of our border laws?

• 23:28Tucker Carlson?

  Well, that's why Bernie Sanders needs a ton of haters in Vermont because it's just, it's appallingly, it's blindingly white. It needs to change. I, I couldn't agree more. Um, so, but just back to the cartel question. I don't, I don't know that much about it, but I keep hearing, I think informed people say, man, you know, parts of New Mexico, Arizona, California, even Florida, Texas, or, you know, there is real control, um, by these cartels in the way that they control Mexico. I mean, they're basically a state within a state with their own army and armored personnel carriers and tanks and like, well, you know. Do you think that's real? Do you think they have that kind of beachhead here?

• 24:07Speaker 03

  Absolutely. As I said earlier, they're like a Fortune 500 company. They're well financed. They're diversified in their, in their funding. And look, I've seen a lot of intelligence reports. They, they have access to military-grade weapons. They'll take the Mexican military on, the Mexican law enforcement. They do all the time. And it's just not my opinion that they have control, operational control over Southwest border. And I've talked to chief patrol agents who will agree with me. They've lost operational control of Southwest border. One chief patrol agent used the term broken arrow. I was on the phone the one time. He was, Tom, I can't contain what's coming across. I'm lucky I'm catching 10% of it. The criminal cartels, knowing the, they, this administration calls this huge humanitarian crisis

• 24:51Speaker 03

  and overwhelmed the border, which we discussed earlier. And whatever assets is left on the border, left to patrol, the criminal cartels, you think a hundred family units or 200 family units show up accidentally at the same place at a certain time? No, the cartels control that. They'll send a group to one area, knowing whatever left on the border was seized to that humanitarian crisis, right? They have to go deal with that. They create gaps in the system. That's when they move the fat and all this killer quarter million Americans. That's why sex trafficking is up 600%. The cartels, they create gaps in our system and, and that's where they operate. And, and for the Democrat, Democratic representatives up on the hills saying, well, most fat and all comes to the port of entry. That's, that's just much garbage. Most fat and all is seized at a port of entry because every vehicle stopped and,

• 25:36Speaker 03

  and based on the CBP targeting system, which is law enforcement sensitive, but, and based on the responses to the questions, chances are they get secondary and they'll find some things. Between the port of entry, we're maybe touching 10%. So if I'm a criminal cartel, I'm going to use a route of least resistance. I know my vehicle is going to be stopped at port of entry. Will it be secondary or not? I don't know. But between the port of entry with 70% of the agents off the line, that's when I'm going to move my product. I mean, it's not rocket science.

• 26:05Tucker Carlson?

  Just right over the open border.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 26:09Tucker Carlson?

  So I, um, I know I'm jumping around, but I have too many questions for you. I read in the last three days, it's hard to believe this could be true, that the Biden administration auctioned off portions of the unfinished border wall at bargain basement prices. Is that true?

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Yes. I actually had a conversation with Senator Lindsey Graham two days ago. Someone needs to take some action because this is, this is products that the taxpayers already paid for and they're going to auction it off. And now, you know, Texas is talking about buying it back. Shouldn't have to buy it back. We bought it once before, right? This administration is out. They're out in, you know, a couple more weeks. Why would they continue to, uh, set us up for failure? That's what they're trying to do, right? President Biden signing all these executive orders and wanting to sell the border product? I thought the American people on Election Day, give this country a clear mandate. They want to secure a border. But this administration is going to stop at, they won't stop at anything to slow us down. It's not going to slow us down.

• 27:04Speaker 03

  We're going to get that border wall finished, but the, the, the mere stupidity of selling this stuff on pennies on the dollar, every taxpayer should be.

• 27:14Tucker Carlson?

  What's an act of hate toward the country? Of course.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  Well, they obviously, you know, I've said many times, they hate Trump more than they love their country.

• 27:20Tucker Carlson?

  For sure. And I think they hate the country more than they hate Trump even. He represents the country to them, the old country that they tried to change with immigration. Do you know Mayorkas?

• 27:31Speaker 03

  I know him.

• 27:32Tucker Carlson?

  How would you assess him?

• 27:34Speaker 03

  I used to respect him.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  Under President Obama, uh, I got, I got a Presidential Rank Award under President Obama because I oversaw the removal of, you know, well over a million, uh, aliens during that three-year period.

• 27:52Speaker 03

  Mayorkas actually accompanied me on operations in New York City, targeting, uh, criminal aliens and illegal aliens, both.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  Jay Johnson approved a family operation. A lot of families were coming across during the Obama administration. And I told Jay Johnson, "Look, nine out of 10 of these families are going to be ordered removed. Are we going to remove them?" He said, "Absolutely." Jay Johnson stood by that. Alejandro Mayorkas went on operation with us. He backed me up a lot. The only, the main thing we disagreed on is the transgender policy. We wanted special treatment for transgenders in ICE detention. I was ordered to sign that policy and that's

• 28:34Tucker Carlson?

  What kind of special treatment?

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Making sure they're identified as being a transgender, they're protected in our facilities and, you know, separated and get medical attention with this hormone therapy or whatever it was.

• 28:48Tucker Carlson?

  Wait, so that he wanted the US government to pay for hormone therapy?

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Yeah. And we got in a huge argument over that. And I was ordered to sign the memo. And that's where kind of where it had fallen out. But

• 28:57Tucker Carlson?

  Do you have any, why would he want, I mean, first of all, how many transsexual illegal aliens are there?

• 29:03Speaker 03

  You'd be surprised how many we run across. And they just, you know, they want a certain protection for them in our facilities. Alejandro Mayorkas went on operations with me. He shook hands with officers who were enforcing immigration law. I remember we went to New York City on a huge operation, arrested a lot of illegal aliens. And when he was nominated to be secretary, I thought, okay, we're in the middle of this crisis again, right? He knows how we stopped it. We stopped it by building detention facilities, including family residential centers, you know, the so-called, so-called cages, right? He knew how we stopped it. We stopped it by building more detention facilities, detaining people, making them have a hearing. Because if you're in detention, you have a hearing within like 35 days. Nine out of 10 lost,

• 29:46Speaker 03

  we put them in an airplane, send them home, and board numbers tanked. So I'm thinking, okay, he knows how to fix it. He might be able to do this job. He got into the job, he did a complete 180. I don't recognize him anymore. He's about not enforcing law. One of his first instructions to ICE is that being in the country illegally on its own is not enough for you to go make an arrest. You got to wait till they're convicted of a serious criminal violation.

• 30:10Tucker Carlson?

  How can, how can a federal administrator ignore federal law? Isn't that unconstitutional? Why can't he be arrested for that?

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Well, it's illegal. I mean, the Fifth Circuit Judge, federal judge in the Fifth Circuit said, not only are they ignoring the law, they're actually violating the law. Again, that's when we need to hold these people accountable in the incoming administration.

• 30:30Speaker 03

  I believe they violated the law and

• 30:32Tucker Carlson?

  The fact that Congress never did anything about that is really telling.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  Well, that's, you know, they went through impeachment proceedings and I said at the time that we, I think we had five or six Republican congress and they didn't vote for impeachment. I couldn't believe it. And I, I thought they lost the right to be a congressman at that point. I mean, if they can impeach President Trump for making a phone call, you can't impeach Alejandro Mayorkas for what he did to this border, the biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen. Look, me and Chris Faray, I'm not a friend of his. I don't really respect the man much, but he agrees with me that the border has become the biggest vulnerability this nation's ever seen. He sees more red flags than ever before and they continue with the open border even to this day after the election. Now they're going to sell border wall material that we're going to need in the day one we're getting in there. The, the,

• 31:20Speaker 03

  the illegal behavior, the, the treasonous behavior from this administration has not stopped.

• 31:26Tucker Carlson?

  What do you think happened? It's so interesting. I'm glad I asked you if you knew him. I didn't know that you did. But since you do, what do you think happened to Mayorkas?

• 31:34Speaker 03

  You know, I'm, as an agent since 1984, I think I, you know, we study people. That's what we do. Either he fooled me and under the first, under the Obama administration, that he actually believed in enforcement. Either I was hoodwinked and just thought he wasn't behind enforcement or, or he always felt that way. And just, he played the role under the Obama administration. Then when he came back, he actually did what he always truly believed in open borders. I know the NGOs and, and he has a very close relationship. He worked with some NGOs when he was, before he came back. So I don't know what happened. All I know is a man who at once respected, I have zero respect now because of what he's

• 32:17Speaker 03

  did. Not, again, not because of incompetence. This is by design. They knew exactly what they were doing because he's been there before. He knows how we shut it down. He knows how we secure the border at a, at a high level, not as high as Trump. We secure the border at a pretty good level. He did everything he could to unsecure the border, which is a complete 180.

• 32:37Tucker Carlson?

  It's fascinating. There's something you watch when he talks, there's something strange, very, well, first of all, he's lying.

• 32:44Speaker 03

  He's lying under oath, which is a felony too. If I lie under oath, you don't think they would love to prosecute me for lying under oath.

• 32:49Tucker Carlson?

  Right, and they should. You shouldn't be allowed to do that.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  He's lied many times. One of the biggest statements he made was, for those who don't immediately qualify for asylum, they'll be immediately removed. Really? You got the lowest numbers removed in the history of ICE. At the same time, you have historic illegal immigration. So, you know, he was supposed to have a hearing a couple of weeks ago, and I asked a couple of congressmen to ask that question again. Well, there's a lot of anti-Trump, anti-homan rhetoric out there that we shouldn't have a mass deportation operation. Do you stand by the statements you made numerous times, if they don't qualify, they need to be removed? Because you can also help send them to the American people. We're doing this deportation operation. It has to be done. And you said it. Would you say it again?

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Of course, him and Ray backed the hearing. Never had the hearing. But for the American people, we don't, here's my biggest issue. I read it every day. Racist, inhumane, to have a mass deportation operation. We just went through four years of historic illegal immigration. Again, we're nine out of 10 get ordered removal. We don't have a choice. That's the way the law's set up. They lose the case, they're going home.

• 33:57Tucker Carlson?

  Why is that racist? I mean, we just ended African-American political power, by the way, because of the demographic changes. Just basically made it, you know, both parties have paid, especially Democratic Party, a lot of attention to what black voters want because they're a huge part of the Democratic coalition. And now that's not true. And so, it's not, this is a complicated question. Anyone who says, oh, it's just white racism, is, what is your average black person in Chicago, native-born, family been here 300 years, what does he think of watching his city overwhelmed with illegal aliens?

• 34:30Speaker 03

  You'll tell me exactly what they think. I was up in Chicago last week. I met with hundreds. I met with black pastors. Black pastors are upset.

• 34:36Tucker Carlson?

  Well, they should be upset.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, they feel like, you know, people who are not supposed to be or enter the country illegally, which is a crime, I'm gonna keep talking about that, are getting massive amounts of care, right? Free hotel room, three square meals a day, free medical care.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  And the black community feels left behind because a lot of these people are, you know, they could use some of that tax money in Chicago to help them.

• 34:59Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 35:00Speaker 03

  And they're taxpayers, they should have their first, uh, first chance to get some of that help. But the mayor of Chicago was just, you know, he's ignoring his own community. And I was up there, uh, just over a week ago and I met with hundreds of people that were up there and they're suffering.

• 35:17Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 35:17Speaker 03

  Because of the decisions to take care of these illegal aliens. I mean, I saw a city transit buses parked, running, running fuel, there's warming buses. How about taking care of the homeless people in that city? Let them get on a warming bus.

• 35:31Tucker Carlson?

  Of course.

• 35:32Speaker 03

  But, you know, they'd rather put these illegal aliens at a hotel room at 500 bucks a night in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City and give them three meals a day and give them free medical care rather than take care of their own people. We got homeless vets, you've been to Washington DC many times, you know, less than a mile from the Capitol, you got homeless vets living in tents. They don't have a free hotel room, they don't get a hot shower, they don't get three squares a day, they don't get, you know, they don't have access to free medical care, but you got people who are in the country illegally, you got all that stuff.

• 36:01Tucker Carlson?

  Well, yeah, and they also, um, you know, this is a democracy, so we make decisions based on population size. And if you dilute the population, you dilute the political power of the people who are born here, very much including black people. So really, it's a takeover of our, of our government, of our democratic system. Um, and I just want to say it for the third time, it completely disenfranchises black people and their, you know, black leaders in Congress who supposedly speak for black people, they sold them right out, actually, fact.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  And then the violence in these communities, and we're trying to address the violence. Mayor Allen finally gets it, I think, but you know, we'll see what he actually does. But you got the mayor of Chicago, Chicago, the crime rate is extremely high in Chicago, right? We know the shootings are outrageous. And what we're saying to them, President Trump and myself have been very clear, we want to prioritize those illegally in the country that are public safety threats. That's what we want to target first because they're the most dangerous to our community. Public safety threats and that's security threats. Why would any elected mayor of a city with a crime rate as high as they have not want public safety threats taken out of their communities, especially if they're here illegally? There's no, you would think the mayor of Chicago has number one responsibility is

• 37:16Speaker 03

  the safety of his community. Why not help me take those public safety threats out of the community? ICE agents aren't allowed to take a step into Cook County Jail, one of the biggest county jails in the country, where we used to get hundreds of illegal alien criminals out. We can't even step foot in that. They won't even, they won't honor an ICE detainer. They must rather release that public safety threat back in the community to reoffend, and where is he likely to reoffend? The immigrant community where he lives.

• 37:40Tucker Carlson?

  But I don't understand. I mean, so when South Carolina tried this in 1861 at Fort Sumter, it kicked off a civil war. When Central High School tried this in 1957 in Little Rock, Arkansas, Eisenhower sent the 101st airborne. You can't allow states to ignore federal law. I'm trying not to use the F word here. So how is that not an act of insurrection? I don't understand. If a mayor or a governor says, you know, we're going to ignore federal law and there's nothing you can, you can't come into our facility, how about you get a SEAL team and go to the, I mean, like, how is that allowed? That is insurrection. Am I missing something? I thought, I thought this is the way the system worked.

• 38:19Speaker 03

  And that's why I've been out there taking a lot of hate the last three weeks, saying, okay, well.

• 38:23Tucker Carlson?

  You're taking hate from the, from the insurrectionists?

• 38:25Speaker 03

  Yeah. Which I'll wear as a badge of honor. I've been out there saying one thing to the mayor of Denver, right? To the mayor of Chicago and to Governor Pritzker and the rest of them. You cannot help, you can choose not to help us, stand aside, because we're going to do it. However, there's a line you can't cross. If you're going to impede what we're doing, that's a felony. If you're going knowingly harbor and conceal illegal alien from ICE agents, USC 1324 Triple I, that's a felony. And we will prosecute. We're done playing the game. There are, there are federal statutes on the books, written by Congress, enacted by

• 39:09Speaker 03

  Congress, signed by a president, said this is a felony to do these things, and we're going to take that seriously. And we got a strong AG coming in Pam Bondi, I think will, will back me up on this.

• 39:19Speaker 03

  You can help, you can sit aside and watch us do your work for you, fine, you do it. But here's a, here's a message, no one's asking you to be immigration officers. What we're asking is, give us access to the taxpayer-funded jail where you already locked somebody in a jail cell, because apparently they're a public safety threat. When you're done with them, simply give them to us. And we're removing them from the community, from the country. Because when you don't, and here's what they're going to get, they're going to get exactly what they don't want by taking this stance. You don't let me in a jail to arrest a bad guy where one agent can arrest a bad guy in the safety and security of a county jail where we know he don't have access to weapons. You're going to release him back in the community. You're endangering the community, the immigrant community, because most likely to reoffend

• 40:04Speaker 03

  in that community. You're endangering our officers, and you're endangering that alien because things could happen when you're making arrests in a public setting. We have access to who knows what weapons, right? So what's Tom Homan going to do? We're going to send more agents to, we're going to find the guy. So that means I got to send a whole team to the community to find him. We send a team because of officer safety concerns. I'm going to send a whole team to find him, and we find him, he's probably going to be with others. Others are not necessarily an operational priority, but guess what? ICE agents aren't going to be told to turn their back on any illegal alien. So we're going to find the bad guy and anybody else around him. So by your actions of not letting me in that county jail, means more agents in your neighborhood, a lot more agents in your neighborhood, and a lot more arrests, and many non-priority

• 40:49Speaker 03

  arrests. You want to play the game, we're going to play the game. That's the result you're going to get. But I, I can't believe to this day that any elected governor, Governor Pritzker says, you got to come through me, okay? No problem, we can do that. Why would you not want to help remove public safety threats? This should be no question. You're going to have your opinion on illegal immigration, we're talking about criminals.

• 41:11Tucker Carlson?

  Well, to the extent that he allows officers in his state to violate federal law, Pritzker's a criminal. I mean, any, any governor who willingly flouts federal law, again, this is why we had a civil war in the United States in 1861, because South Carolina did this. So I don't know why we would ever put up with that for one second from any governor, a Republican or Democrat.

• 41:33Speaker 03

  President Trump administration will not put up with that. And that's why I've been signing a warning, shout out, this is not to be tolerated. We're going to take action. American lives are at stake here, and...

• 41:45Speaker 03

  This president, I think, has been given a mandate by American people. Apparently, the results of the election has no influence on many of these people. Mayor Adams reached out to me, and I actually went and met with him. He understands it, and I think he realizes that we're taking it seriously.

• 42:01Tucker Carlson?

  Eric Adams from New York reached out to you.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  Reached out to me.

• 42:04Tucker Carlson?

  Good for him.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  I went and sat down and met with him. He believes he should take public safety threats out of his communities, too. He's offering to help us. He's offering to let me in the Rikers Island jail. We've been kicked out of Rikers Island jail for years. Again, like, kind of, we used to arrest hundreds of illegal immigrants with criminal convictions there. Eric Adams says he's going to go as far as writing an executive order to get us back in Rikers Island because he agrees with me that Mayor DiBlasio did a lot of harm that affected the public safety in New York City. So, he's getting a lot of pushback from the city council. I saw him the other day, says, you know, you can cancel him if you want, but this is the right thing to do for public safety in New Yorkers. He also said he would assist me in finding over the 300,000 innocent children, which many aren't going to be in New York City.

• 42:46Tucker Carlson?

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• 43:29Tucker Carlson?

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• 45:23Tucker Carlson?

  So let me ask you about Adams. I talked to him the other day. He seemed pretty reasonable to me. I don't agree with him on, you know, a lot, but on the other hand, he didn't seem crazy. And my impression is that he was indicted on what seemed like pretty silly charges by the feds because he complained about immigration in New York. I think that's what he thinks happened. Do you think that's possible?

• 45:47Speaker 03

  I absolutely do, yes. And when I sat down with him, it was all about public safety. That other stuff never came up. The cop at him came out. And look, I've been calling him out. For two years, saying he forgot what it's like to be a cop and became a politician. He's not helping this crisis.

• 46:02Tucker Carlson?

  I agree.

• 46:03Speaker 03

  But when he reached out to me, I sat down with him. I saw that I first time ever, I saw the cop, the career cop come out and him.

• 46:09Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 46:09Speaker 03

  Like this is, this is, this is, this shouldn't be controversial. I want to work with you on this. He goes down, we're not going to be immigration officers. I'm not going to help you round up illegal aliens. And I said, I don't want, I don't want to be an immigration officer. I want cops to work with cops.

• 46:23Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 46:24Speaker 03

  To remove public safety threats. He gets it. And he says he's going to take some executive actions. And so I hope he does because that's going to make New York City much safer. Not only for the community, but for my officers.

• 46:35Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 46:35Speaker 03

  My biggest threat is you're going to force us in the community arrest bad guys when we could arrest them in a safety and security of a jail. That puts our guys at grave risk. So, and same with the border agents. The criminal cartels can be put out of business by President Trump, which means the violence is going to rise on the southern border.

• 46:53Tucker Carlson?

  Well, that's right. And it's also, if you think about it, and I know you have thought about it, I think it's safer for everyone to have your guys arresting illegals in the Sonoran Desert than in Times Square. I mean, that's scary in a crowded city.

• 47:06Speaker 03

  Right. And these men and women, they're going to put their lives on the line every day. I would, again, I can't believe any politician, left, right, middle, would want to put these officers at risk when there's a better way to do this. When I first started in this game back in 1980s, I never heard a word of sanctuary city. We got in every county jail. Everybody worked. I can't believe we're at the time now, my, my, my father was a cop, my grandfather was a cop, my, you know.

• 47:31Tucker Carlson?

  Your grandfather was a cop?

• 47:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. I knew I was going to be a cop.

• 47:35Tucker Carlson?

  Where were they cops?

• 47:36Speaker 03

  In upstate New York. So, in my day, cops were respected. Police officers were respected. Now we're, now you fast forward now, and these politicians, if you enforce the law, all of a sudden you become the bad guy. And if you break the law, you're the victim. That's truly what it is in some of these cities.

• 47:56Tucker Carlson?

  It's weird that, that Republicans put up with that acts of insurrection. I mean, they've been yammering about the insurrection of January 6th, but a sanctuary city is a, is a bold, unequivocal move toward insurrection. You're saying, I'm not obeying federal law. And no one did anything about it. They made fun of him on Fox News, but they didn't, they didn't send the 101st Airborne. I don't understand why.

• 48:20Speaker 03

  President Trump is going to take a hard stance. I think he will take, one of the things, take their federal funding away. I think that's going to bring a lot of people to the table because they need that money. And plus, I think it gets down to if they impede, if they knowingly harbor, I think we need to prosecute members. You know, I said this, I said this when I was ICE director, that they ought to need to be held accountable, and DOJ needs to look at criminal prosecution. Of course, the media went crazy. Homeland is calling to lock up politicians. What I called for is DOJ, if, I'm not an attorney, but I, as an agent, many years ago, I have arrested United States citizens for knowingly harboring, concealing, and illegally alien their home. I arrested you as a citizen for harboring, concealing, illegal alien in the place of business. If I can arrest a US citizen

• 49:05Speaker 03

  for violating those crimes, why can't I arrest the mayor or a governor who's given his staff explicit instructions to impede us and to hide from us? I mean, the mayor Adams came around the city, he would have the police force at the city boundaries preventing us from coming in, right? That was one of the comments he made. Now, he's walked them back because he made a statement, he's willing to go to jail, and I responded, well, I'm willing to put you in jail if that's what it comes to. I'm not looking for a fight with these people, but I'm not going to run away from them either. We're going to enforce this law. We're going to do what the American people wants us to do. We're going to enforce the law. We're going to run this deportation operation. If you don't want to help get the hell out of the way, but if you impede us, then we need, we need to prosecute these

• 49:48Speaker 03

  people and send a message. This is no longer acceptable to anybody. Should never been acceptable, but under Trump administration, we're not playing that game.

• 49:55Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, because the country, it's not even about, on some level, immigration. It's about holding the country together. If parts of the country decide we're just not following the federal laws because we don't feel like it, then how is that a country?

• 50:07Speaker 03

  Lake and Riley will be alive today if we had a better relationship in New York City. She was arrested, he was, the killer was arrested in New York City for injuring a child. If we had the relationship we used to have, they would have turned him over to ICE. I sort of detained him and removed him.

• 50:22Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah.

• 50:23Speaker 03

  But instead he went to Georgia and killed a girl. And you know, if President Trump was president, he wouldn't even be in the United States. He'd be in Mexico in the Remain in Mexico program. Would have never been released into the United States. Given a free hotel, given a monthly stipend for food and expenses.

• 50:40Tucker Carlson?

  Free cellphone, airplane tickets.

• 50:42Speaker 03

  It's just incredible where we're at today, but I got full confidence in myself and President Trump. And I'm working very closely with Steve Miller, brilliant. Architect of the most successful border policy this country has had.

• 50:53Tucker Carlson?

  What's his position gonna be?

• 50:55Speaker 03

  He's the Deputy Chief of Staff.

• 50:57Tucker Carlson?

  Yep.

• 50:57Speaker 03

  I'm a senior advisor to the President. Term "border czar," not my term, but that's the term they nicknamed it. But I can guarantee you, Tucker, and to your listeners, this border czar is going to do a hell of a lot better than our last border czar. I've actually, I've already been to the border three times and I'm not even in office yet.

• 51:17Tucker Carlson?

  I gotta, I cannot resist asking you, um, what are these drones in New Jersey?

• 51:23Speaker 03

  I don't know. I've talked to people in the intelligence community. Some think it's,

• 51:29Speaker 03

  some are from an Iranian ship. But I haven't got access to intelligence reports. I know one thing. Maybe it's, maybe, uh, the news is right. Maybe they're surveillance drone, maybe they're all illegal. I just find it hard to believe. I can't believe this administration has taken action on it. I guarantee you, if President Trump was in the Oval Office, everyone would have blown out of the sky by now. I don't know factually because I don't see the intelligence reports. I'm not in yet. But I find it highly suspicious that the administration is saying they're all legal and lawful and that they pose no harm to the communities. I don't buy it.

• 52:10Tucker Carlson?

  Do you, do you think that other members of the incoming Trump administration have been briefed on what the current administration thinks they are?

• 52:17Speaker 03

  I do not know. I'm hoping they have, maybe they should have, but I don't know. I just saw one congressman from New Jersey said he got information from Iranian summer.

• 52:27Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, I saw that.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  And I've also talked to friends in the intelligence community that off the record, thought the same thing, but I have no direct knowledge of it.

• 52:38Tucker Carlson?

  That's bizarre.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  I guarantee you, within a few days, the Trump get away, the White House will find out.

• 52:43Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, I think that's, I believe that, I believe that to be true. So of the, so you've described, I think, really well, the problem. And how you plan to secure the border. The deportations was, that was the second goal that you had of three. How many of those 12 million do you think are eligible, can be deported?

• 53:08Speaker 03

  We know there's, right now, we got over 1.7 million with final orders of removal. Already been ordered removed, that haven't been removed.

• 53:17Tucker Carlson?

  Okay, so that's just a gimme, that's easy.

• 53:19Speaker 03

  We got 700,000, 780,000 illegal aliens with criminal convictions. They're gonna be priority one.

• 53:28Speaker 03

  Then we got, you know, like I said, we got criminals, national security threats, and fugitives. These are the ones I thought, 1.7, I think the last number was, of people who had due process, like great taxpayer expense, were ordered removed. They need to go, we'll find them. Then we, then we take the rest. I mean, everybody says, how many illegal aliens can you remove in a year? I don't know.

• 53:48Speaker 03

  I'll find out when I get into office. How many positions do I have? What does my money look like? How much money do I have to buy beds? Because we need detention beds. People don't understand, you don't arrest somebody and just deport them that day. We have to detain them, work out arrangements for their home country to get travel documents. They have to accept that, yeah, they're a national of ours. And there's a process we go through, anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. So we have to detain these people. So how many beds can I afford to buy? Because if I don't have beds, it's gonna be hard to do this. How much money do I have with transportation contracts? Whether over the ground or in the air? And can other agencies be involved? I know, I specifically have requested that DOD be involved.

• 54:29Speaker 03

  They can do non enforcement duty. What that does is so the officers wearing a badge and gun with immigration authority, they shouldn't be driving a bus. They shouldn't be building infrastructure on the southwest border, south side facilities. They shouldn't be doing the intelligence. They shouldn't be doing the targeting, right? As much non enforcement work as possible. Contract that out, have DOD do a lot of it and that releases those badges and guns to the street where they're really needed. So what other agencies are involved? Is DOD gonna be a part of this? Take off the non enforcement duties off our shoulders? So hopefully I'll find out really fast what we have. I know right now, my sources at ICE, there are already $300 million in the hole.

• 55:12Speaker 03

  So I'm hoping Congress will provide us with huge funding through the conciliation process. That's my hopes. And I know, I talked to Lindsey Graham yesterday.

• 55:24Tucker Carlson?

  Or deportation.

• 55:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, Lindsey Graham yesterday said he's working on a national medical bill. Be more money than we've ever seen before. I hope that's true. I just don't want to be held up in this, this tax bill. Cause that's gonna take six or eight months and it gets watered down by the time we get it and it's just ridiculous.

• 55:39Tucker Carlson?

  Have you, I mean, is there some legal way to designate Americans just for a temporary period as Ukrainians? And just tell the Congress that money's going to Ukrainians?

• 55:50Speaker 03

  Well, that'd be great.

• 55:51Tucker Carlson?

  That would expedite it, don't you think? Here's 200 billion dollars.

• 55:54Speaker 03

  They're spending money defending Ukrainian border, but it'd be nice if they give us just a piece of that action because they got a lot of money. I'm hoping and praying that this is gonna be different than the first Trump administration when he had the Senate and the House for his two years. I'm hoping they come to the table and help this president succeed. So funding is paramount. We're only gonna be as successful as the funding we're given to get this job done.

• 56:17Tucker Carlson?

  Well, I, I, I can, I'm no expert, but I know members of Congress, most of them, and I know that they only respond to pain, unfortunately. And you just haven't threatened them and you're gonna lose your seat and we're gonna call you out by name and make you unpopular in your state and your career will be over unless you obey immediately. And, you know, normal people, you don't, you can reason with normal people and love motivates people. I mean, I doubt like in your house, you and your wife are threatening each other. You probably love each other, saying nice things to each other. But members of Congress are not normal people and you really just have to, you know, grab them by the face and say, do this or suffer. And they will respond to that. So I hope you will do that.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's a lot of media outlets right now. I think they're trying to. Shameless in how expensive this operation is going to be. It's just incredible.

• 57:02Tucker Carlson?

  More expensive than letting in 12 billion people and giving them cell phones and food vouchers and free medical care.

• 57:07Speaker 03

  And I explained.

• 57:08Tucker Carlson?

  Destroying our hospitals, yeah.

• 57:09Speaker 03

  First of all, what price you put on national security? What price you put on Lake and Riley's life and so many other little girls? It's gonna be a cost savings for American people. Right now, we're spending billions of dollars on free airline ticket, free hotel room, not even mentioning the cost of schools and trauma centers and hospitals and social services. In perpetuity.

• 57:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's gonna be expensive.

• 57:30Tucker Carlson?

  Well, they've destroyed rural America. I mean, it's just flat out. I live there.

• 57:33Speaker 03

  It'll be expensive right out of the gate, but in the long run, we're gonna save American taxpayers billions of dollars by getting this country back to the rule of law.

• 57:40Tucker Carlson?

  What's the point of a government except to ensure safety and tranquility for its people? I mean, what is the point? Other than to obviously kick out Assad and, and secure the borders of Ukraine, which are the top priorities, I think, listed in the Constitution. But, um, after that, you know, taking care of your own people seems to be important also.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  Well, that's why President Trump on this election.

• 58:00Tucker Carlson?

  I know.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  He's put America, it's put America first. That's why I can't, like, this is the second time I came back from retirement, uh, to serve this president because, like I said, I've been doing this a long time and I'm at the point now where I wake up every day pissed off. The first day I woke up with a smile on my face was the day after the election because I knew we can fix this. I knew by fixing it, you save lives. Secure borders save lives.

• 58:23Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 58:24Speaker 03

  Even when you, when you got 100% of agents on the line doing their job rather than changing diapers, making baby formula, the hospital runs, more fentanyl sees, which means less fentanyl deaths. Less people, less gotaways, which means less sex trafficking on women and children, less known as suspected terrorists. Even the wall saves lives. And people say, all right, Trump's vanity wall. No, that's, that's America's wall, first of all. Every place to build a border barrier, illegal immigration reduced, illegal drug flow reduced. What, what people don't wanna talk about is how many lives it saves. The most vulnerable of those that come to the country, the women and children, can't get over that wall, which means they're going to a place where there's not a wall. And what's waiting on them? The men and women wearing that green uniform, the finest 1% this country has, who are gonna

• 59:09Speaker 03

  take care of their medical needs first, because they're in a lot of bad shape when they get there. Men and women aboard Joe save thousands of lives every year. Of course, the left wants to call them, you know, haters and storm troopers and, and they wanna, you know.

• 59:24Speaker 03

  Slandered the men of the horse patrol for what they did and still no apology to the state. Men and women in Boratul save a lot of lives. Border war saves lives. And under Trump administration, the number of deaths were very, very low. Both Americans and illegal aliens. Under Joe Biden, we're just, I think we're just short of 4,000 aliens have died crossing the border. While you and I are talking right now, while you and I are having this discussion, women are being raped. And members of the cartel as a part of the crossing through that border. A child is going to die today. Either drowned in a river, be lost in the desert, or abandoned by these cartels. And they think the government's getting close to them. They'll dump people and save their own skin and put these, look how many children have been abandoned at the border. Boratul's found a lot of them.

• 1:00:09Speaker 03

  I guarantee Boratul won't find all of them. There's some toddlers they're going to find someday.

• 1:00:13Tucker Carlson?

  So it's so evil. I mean, I know that in El Salvador, when MS-13 ran the country before Bukele, there was a religious component of kind of voodoo witchcraft component to MS-13 where they were worshiping the devil. I mean openly. It's a component of the cartels. You see it in Mexico as well, all through Latin America. Is that, have you come across that?

• 1:00:38Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, they worship death.

• 1:00:42Tucker Carlson?

  Like formally worship it though?

• 1:00:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, there's, there's a, I'm going to call them religious. We, you know, some places that even the Texas DPS have found some of these places where the cartels were operating. They got, you know, statues, statues there and memorabilia, worshiping death as a consequence of not allowing them to do their business.

• 1:01:07Tucker Carlson?

  Right. And these are from cultures that have practiced human sacrifice for thousands of years.

• 1:01:11Speaker 03

  I got a video on my phone showing a member of the cartel skinning a man alive.

• 1:01:19Speaker 03

  Skinning him alive on video to send a message to anybody. If you push back in the cartels, if you're snitching in the cartels, they're not gonna just kill you, they're gonna make you suffer immensely. I got sent this video by some intelligence community, and you know, I'm a pretty tough guy, but I can't watch the whole video.

• 1:01:37Tucker Carlson?

  No, of course not.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  When they skin somebody alive and the pain that man went through. This is what they do. That's why MS-13, they don't just shoot somebody, they hack them up. Me and President Trump, remember when we did Operation Matador in Long Island, we arrested just short of 500 gang members and allowed them MS-13. During the press conference, President Trump referred to these people as animals. And of course Nancy Pelosi rescued people and nuts, she, "These are people you refer to as animals."

• 1:02:02Tucker Carlson?

  She's an animal, actually.

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  Then they came to me and I said, "I don't know what President Trump has against animals, but animals kill to survive, MS-13 kills for pleasure. They're much worse than animals."

• 1:02:12Tucker Carlson?

  Well, it's witchcraft, it's human sacrifice, and they've, I mean, again, they're from cultures that have practiced it for, well, since the beginning of recorded history, so...

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  But Trinidad, Agua and the rest of them, they're on notice. There are days of coming over here and committing crimes and victimizing this country over. And a lot of people pushing back, say, "Well, you can't remove them to Venezuela. They're gonna be removed." And if Venezuela won't take them, well, it's in someplace south, but they're not staying here. So Trinidad, Agua's done a lot of harm in this country, as you know, raped, murdered little girls and the theft and the organized crime they've instilled in major cities of this country. President Trump put them on notice. Our gang is bigger than their gang.

• 1:02:58Tucker Carlson?

  I hope so.

• 1:02:59Speaker 03

  And take them out of business.

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• 1:05:11Tucker Carlson?

  I remember in the first Trump administration, the US military refused, flat out refused, generals refused to secure the border.

• 1:05:20Tucker Carlson?

  What do you think of that?

• 1:05:22Speaker 03

  It's a shame. I mean, DOD has helped a lot of administrations. They helped the Obama administration. They helped the Clinton administration.

• 1:05:28Tucker Carlson?

  What's the point of sending them a trillion and a half dollars every year? Is there a reason that we do that?

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  Well, I think we've proven that the southwest border is a huge national security vulnerability. I think it's a perfect place for the military to be.

• 1:05:41Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah, bigger than Syria, I would say.

• 1:05:42Speaker 03

  It's more of a national security vulnerability than Ukraine or Syria or anyplace else. So I think President Trump's not going to take no for an answer. He is the President of the United States. He's going to make this work and DOD will be a part of this operation. We need them. We can make a bigger impact if they can do some of the things that don't require a badge and gun for us. And that puts more badge and guns on the street, the rest of bad guys. It's they're an imperative part of this operation. Other other agencies, we'll need help from, you know, I'd like to see the U.S. Marshals be a part of that, the FBI be a part of it. You know, I've gotten, I've actually shut down my LinkedIn account because I've gotten thousands of accounts, thousands, retired border patrol agents, retired ICE agents, retired police officers, retired military,

• 1:06:26Speaker 03

  all want to come back and help this operation. And I'm hoping we can rehire a lot of these people, rehire them doing this. But these, you know, especially the retired border patrol agents and ICE agents. They know the Fourth Amendment, they know they can do and don't do. A lot of them speak Spanish, they know how to use the processing systems. They know the game, they're good at it. So one of the first things I'm going to be working on is bringing a lot of these retired agents back and letting them help us do this job. They're educated in immigration enforcement, they hit the ground running.

• 1:06:53Tucker Carlson?

  I should have asked you this at the outset, but of the 12 million that you described, you came here illegally under Biden, where were they from roughly?

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  181 different countries.

• 1:07:03Tucker Carlson?

  So how does, I'm won't ask.

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  That's almost every country in the world, think about it.

• 1:07:07Tucker Carlson?

  It's, I think they're what, 199, you know? So there were none from Vana Tu or Seychelles, but the rest came. But how was the breakdown? Like you think of illegal immigration and, well, when I was a kid, it was from Mexico. I don't think it is anymore. Then it was Central America, then it was South America. Roughly, what was the breakdown? Can you remember?

• 1:07:29Speaker 03

  Mexicans still read, or national Mexico still lead.

• 1:07:33Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, really?

• 1:07:33Speaker 03

  Yeah. El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, close second. I mean, those four countries make up a majority. But what concerns me is the country that we never had much activity from.

• 1:07:46Tucker Carlson?

  Yes.

• 1:07:47Speaker 03

  You know, 46,000 Chinese.

• 1:07:50Tucker Carlson?

  What's that?

• 1:07:52Speaker 03

  It scares the hell out of me because a lot of them are military aged males. 46,000 military aged males don't lead China without the coordination, approval of the Chinese government. That just don't happen. Russians, we got over, I think last look I have is 27,000 Russians. People from Turkey, Syria, Iran, Iraq.

• 1:08:12Tucker Carlson?

  Big Africa, too.

• 1:08:15Speaker 03

  It's just.

• 1:08:16Tucker Carlson?

  How many from Africa do you think?

• 1:08:17Speaker 03

  I don't have that on top of my head. But special interest countries, countries, numbers like we've never seen before. And we can't properly vet them. That's one thing I've been screaming about two years. Secretary Monarchis gets up there and says, they're all properly vetted. Vetted against what? Because we don't have criminal data from El Salvador or Turkey or Syria. Do you think China's going to give us any national security data on their people or Russia? So you vet them against NCIC, which we have. So unless you're convicted, unless you've been convicted, arrested in this country before, and your fingerprints were taken, you're going to come back clean because we don't have access to most countries' criminal data. A lot of these countries don't have criminal data, right? You think Haiti has an NCIC? Absolutely don't. So they say they've vetted, and they don't vet them properly.

• 1:09:00Speaker 03

  And when it comes to terrorist vetting, beyond the criminal vetting, how about terrorist vetting? You and I both know most terrorists in this world aren't in any database. Unless they were part of a T3 operation, or caught on chatter, or encountered on a battlefield by a soldier and biometrics were taken.

• 1:09:19Speaker 03

  We don't know who they are, where they're at. And so even though they say they vetted them through these terrorist databases, don't really mean a lot. But here's one thing that hasn't been talked about a lot. And, and I've talked to several whistleblowers in border control. So they, they arrest somebody from one of these countries, they, they vet them through the bureau. But there's been such a push by this administration, process quick, release quick. Cause there's nowhere we're crawling, there's nothing to see here. Border secure. They process and release so quickly, sometimes the vetting came back after they released and they were hot. On these two occasions, this has happened. ICE actually found one later on.

• 1:09:53Tucker Carlson?

  They're hot, meaning what? They've got?

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  They're, they're a positive hit on terrorist database. Uh, person of interest. So that's going to change. I mean, we have to detain these people. The Trump administration went and catch and release. Either you're going to be sent back to Mexico or we detain you. Uh, the only, the only thing that I'm concerned with is the Zabada's Supreme Court ruling. There's a ruling called Zabada's versus US. It says, you can only hold somebody up to six months for a significant, significant likelihood of removal. So if we have a country that absolutely not take them back, at the end of six months, we got a decision to make. Either we remove them to a cooperating third country, or we have to release them unless we can prove.

• 1:10:37Tucker Carlson?

  Why don't send them to Mexico? If they came through more than Mexico, deal with it. The Claudia lady deal with it.

• 1:10:41Speaker 03

  That's part of the plan. And we're hoping to do that. But the Zabada's ruling is terrible. And we're hoping that now we got a better Supreme Court, that needs to be relitigated. They say we can only hold somebody for six months. Um, and they're, they're a significant public safety threat. Just because this country says, no, we don't want them. There's gotta be a better way.

• 1:11:00Tucker Carlson?

  I wonder if the 47,000 Chinese that you mentioned, uh, that's kind of what Fidel Castro did in 1980 with the Mariel boat lift, just like empty the prisons and the mental hospitals. Why wouldn't they do that?

• 1:11:11Speaker 03

  Well, they have. Venezuela has.

• 1:11:14Tucker Carlson?

  Venezuela has.

• 1:11:15Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:11:16Tucker Carlson?

  But has China, do you think?

• 1:11:19Speaker 03

  I don't, I don't think so. I think China, these people came here for a purpose. You know, the, as you know, you've done a lot of reporting and, and they got land around military bases. They're setting up, uh, shadow business here. I think China between all these people they sent, plus continuing to create the precursors that make fentanyl, they're, they're trying to destroy this country. That's my personal opinion.

• 1:11:43Tucker Carlson?

  Well, they're selling drugs all over the country. They're selling drugs all over the state of Maine. Maine. Chinese national.

• 1:11:49Speaker 03

  And what has Biden administration done to China about creating these fentanyl, say they assault the cartels in Mexico? What have they done? What have they done about the cartels?

• 1:11:55Tucker Carlson?

  Nothing.

• 1:11:56Speaker 03

  President Trump's going through.

• 1:11:57Tucker Carlson?

  No, because fentanyl has killed the exact Americans that Biden hates and is always attacking. So, I mean, it's committed genocide against his enemies. So he's, he doesn't seem against it, um, at all. It's all very dark. I have to wonder, um, you said, you used the phrase military age males. Because this was so coordinated by these, uh, NGOs, Catholic charities, uh, UN and others, um, you have to kind of wonder, like, is there some military purpose to this invasion? Have you wondered that?

• 1:12:34Speaker 03

  I've wondered every day. And I can't wait to get in power to start driving, drilling down these files. Who are these people? Who'd you release? What kind of vetting did you do? Did you take biometric biographic data?

• 1:12:44Tucker Carlson?

  Yeah. High testosterone foreigners? Yeah. I don't know. I mean, why, I mean, I don't want to be paranoid, but.

• 1:12:51Speaker 03

  But it's been very, you know, they, they, they don't talk about it. And it's very, you know, but when we get in power, we're going to have to pull all those records. Find, you know, it's like that's over 300,000 missing children. We got to pull those records from HHS.

• 1:13:02Tucker Carlson?

  Okay. So what, I'm sorry. I've been told by whistleblowers. What is that? 300,000 missing children? That's something else I've read reference to.

• 1:13:09Speaker 03

  Well, over half a million children in trafficking into this country. Uh, and they get turned over to custody of HHS officer refugee resettlement who finds sponsors and releases them to sponsors. I've talked to several whistleblowers say they weren't even fingerprinting the sponsors on many occasions. They're not doing proper vetting. We have a whistleblower who testified in front of Congress now three times. That a lot of these children seem to be victims of trafficking. They released unvetted sponsors and many children were, were released to one sponsor. The one whistleblower said there was 11 young girls released to one male, single male.

• 1:13:45Speaker 03

  Maybe it's all innocent, maybe it's not.

• 1:13:47Tucker Carlson?

  There's nothing innocent, that's sick.

• 1:13:49Speaker 03

  No, and look, the CBP One app, they shut that down because of massive fraud. One of the insiders in CBP told me, for example, one dead man sponsored over 1,600 people. Been dead for years. Massive fraud, massive trafficking involved. And when they talked about opening CBP One app to do that, I said at the time, before they even implemented, if you do this, it's going to create a huge trafficking network. Where if you're from Cuba, Nicaragua, Haiti, Venezuela, you want to come to the United States under this CHNV program, you just got to find a sponsor who want to take care of you. How many sick pedophiles would be willing to sponsor anybody from one of those four countries

• 1:14:31Speaker 03

  to come live in the United States, that after they get here, you own them. All you got to do is, you know, you their official sponsor, without you, they can't stay. And one of these sick sponsors, not all of them, but many of these are going to be predators and sick people, what are they going to do to these people who are trying to stay in this country? It's a huge human trafficking issue. I guarantee you.

• 1:14:53Tucker Carlson?

  And by human trafficking, is it mostly for prostitution?

• 1:14:56Speaker 03

  Prostitution or forced labor, mainly those two things.

• 1:14:59Tucker Carlson?

  So if you go to any construction site in the United, big construction site, they're building a data center or a mall, I know this because I know a guy in the business who just told me this, anyone in the United States, there will be child prostitutes there from Latin America, brought in by the cartels for the guys on the cruise. And I said, does everyone know this? Everyone knows it, I mean, it's fact, every big construction site in the United States. Does anyone ever do anything about it? No, no one ever does anything about it.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Wait until January 21st.

• 1:15:31Tucker Carlson?

  I don't understand that, though. If everyone in the building trades knows that.

• 1:15:36Tucker Carlson?

  How can law enforcement ignore it?

• 1:15:40Speaker 03

  We're not going to start doing it for 20 years.

• 1:15:42Tucker Carlson?

  Good.

• 1:15:43Speaker 03

  But I can tell you, look, of the, of the over 300,000 this government lost track of, I guarantee you, as I said here today, we'll find many in forced labor. We'll find many in forced sex trafficking. That's the sad thing, we won't find them. So that's why President Trump's saying, seriously, we gotta, we gotta save, we gotta save these women and children that are put in this position. The immigration consequences will still come, but first we gotta save them, get these kids. As far as the kids, the three, over 300,000, we gotta save these kids. A lot of them are living a life of hell every day. And we, I guarantee you, we're gonna find, well, ICE, HSI has already found some of these children, meatpacking plants, cleaning up entrails on a midnight shift. We're gonna find some living with pedophiles, we're gonna find some are in sex slavery.

• 1:16:27Speaker 03

  Some are gonna be dead, but we gotta find these children. The President Trump made that a third rail of priorities. And it's something that needs to be done. This administration stopped the DNA testing, they stopped the proper vetting. Under the Trump administration, we were having the same problem in the beginning. We did DNA testing. You weren't a family unless DNA testing showed you were a family. And we did vetting, we didn't just vet the sponsor fully. We vetted everybody in their household to make sure there wasn't a pedophile living in the house, make sure there wasn't some of the rest of the domestic violence in the house. This administration stopped all that because Becerra, the Secretary of HHS, he gets on stage and brags, and I saw him on a stage bragging how quick we released these kids from government custody.

• 1:17:09Speaker 03

  We got a machine here, it's like the, it's like the Ford plant. We get them in and out of here. Yeah, because you stopped the, you stopped the proper vetting, you stopped the DNA testing, and, and God help you for what you did to these children. Because a lot of these children are living a life of hell every day, so we gotta find these kids.

• 1:17:24Tucker Carlson?

  It's unbelievable. So, what, last question, I'm just interested in why you're doing this? So you, you did it for 40 years? Yeah, 1984, 40 years. And then you go into the private sector and you're not retired, but you get to do kind of what you want to do and make a real wage after working for the government all these years? And this problem is just so enormous, and the bureaucracy is so complex and hard to fight, and they always win in the end. Why would you take this job?

• 1:18:01Speaker 03

  Well, because I love my country, first of all, we, we, we, we made more progress on the sun board ever before in the first Trump administration, I was vice director. Uh, like it was, I'm taking an eighty-two percent pay cut.

• 1:18:16Tucker Carlson?

  Oh, I bet.

• 1:18:17Speaker 03

  And I'm going back to cover a paycheck. And thank God, my wife supports me. She said, if I don't take the job, she's going to divorce me. She don't want to see me waking up every day mad at the world because I didn't come back.

• 1:18:28Tucker Carlson?

  So your wife's not a liberal?

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  No, she's not. Um, you know, I say this many times because of things I've seen in my career. I mean, I stood in the back with tractor trailer. I, I grew up in a town of twenty-five-hundred people. Either you're milk cows, or you're a logger, or you worked at Ford drop. So many three things you did where I grew up. Um, so I grew up in a town of twenty-five-hundred. I fast forward, I'm sitting, I'm standing back with trailer, tractor trailer, nineteen dead people at my feet that baked to death in back that tractor trailer, including a five-year-old little boy who suffocated death. And on top of it was his father, who was trying to protect him. During that investigation, they said that little boy begged his father not to let him

• 1:19:14Speaker 03

  die because he wanted to see his mom again. Begged over and over again, you know, here's a five-year-old little boy who knew he was dying and asked his dad for help.

• 1:19:23Tucker Carlson?

  No.

• 1:19:24Speaker 03

  And his dad, you know, his dad can't help him, right?

• 1:19:29Tucker Carlson?

  No.

• 1:19:30Speaker 03

  I've talked to little girls as young as nine that were raped multiple times by members of the cartel. Not once, numerous times. Grown men crawled upon this little girl, took everything innocent and pure from her. Her life would never be the same. Look in her eyes, there wasn't life in her eyes. It's just, this little girl's devastated for life. Um, and this happens every day. Uh, when they unsecure the border on purpose, I wrote an op-ed for Fox News, and I says, if Joe Biden wins the presidency, we lose the border. And when you lose the border, trafficking or sex trafficking will skyrocket, child deaths will skyrocket, migrant deaths will skyrocket, American deaths will skyrocket from drugs coming across that border. I wake up ready pissed off for four years. So.

• 1:20:16Speaker 03

  And I've been on numerous networks complaining about it. So when President Trump calls me up, says, "You've been complaining about it for four years. You want to come fix it?" How do you say no? First of all, you don't say no to President of the United States. And second of all, I won't say no to secure. I love this country. I want to save some lives, secure borders, save lives. So I'm going to come back and do what I can. I guarantee you what we're going to do is going to save migrant lives. It's going to save American lives. It's going to protect our national security. That's why I'm coming back. Not for the pay. I'll tell you that. I'm coming back because after three and a half decades doing this job, you understand it. You understand the tragedies

• 1:20:56Speaker 03

  happen around it. The more secure that border is, the more lives we save. So I can rest, when I retire for the third time, I can say, "I did my part to save some lives." And maybe less children are being exploited and women are being exploited by these cartels. And my number one goal is seeing these cartels wipe all the face of the earth. And I think President Trump's the guy to do it.

• 1:21:19Tucker Carlson?

  Of everyone appointed, I think you've got the best shot at winning because you know exactly what you want to do. Tom, thank you very much.

• 1:21:26Speaker 03

  Appreciate it. Thank you.

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