S2E34: We Are Here to Learn From | Talk Tracks

In this episode of The Talk Tracks, Ky sits down with Gavin Schultz and his mother, Cindy, to explore Gavin’s journey as a differently verbal autistic man who began spelling to communicate at age nine through RPM. Before spelling, Cindy knew Gavin was bright, but she had no idea just how rich his inner world truly was. Through spelling, Gavin began sharing profound reflections on faith, intelligence, kindness, purpose, telepathy, and the spiritual gifts he says he experiences, including seeing angels, feeling people’s energy, and receiving teachings from theologians. Gavin also answers listener-submitted questions from the Backstage Pass community, sharing his thoughts on telepathy, skepticism, testing, communication across disabilities, humanity’s purpose, and why he believes differently speaking people are here to teach the world about love, patience, and hope. _______ Join The Telepathy Tapes Backstage Pass to get ad-free episodes, never-before-heard interviews, behind-the-scenes documentary footage, and access to our private Discord community. This is your invitation to come closer. To help shape what’s next. To be more than a listener… to be a co-creator of this paradigm shift. So if you’ve felt moved, if you’ve felt seen, if you’ve felt the call—subscribe today and join us: thetelepathytapes.supercast.com. _______ Thank you to our sponsors! Chilipad http://www.sleep.me/TELEPATHY - Visit www.sleep.me/TELEPATHY http://www.sleep.me/TELEPATHY to get up to $255 off your Chilipad 2.0 with code TELEPATHY. Order it today with free shipping and try it out for 30-days with an option for free return if you don’t like it with their sleep trial. Prolon https://prolonlife.com/TAPES - Ready for your own reset? For a limited time, Prolon is offering Telepathy Tapes listeners 15% off site-wide plus a $40 bonus gift when you subscribe to their 5-Day Program! Visit ProlonLife.com/TAPES https://prolonlife.com/TAPES. AeroFlow http://aeroflowurology.com/tapes - Stop paying out-of-pocket. AeroFlow offers medical-grade supplies, like diapers, pull-ups, and wipes, all covered by your insurance. See if you qualify in under two minutes at aeroflowurology.com/tapes http://aeroflowurology.com/tapes. Omaha Steaks http://omahasteaks.com/ - Get flavorful, high-quality proteins delivered by visiting OmahaSteaks.com http://omahasteaks.com/, plus $35 off when you use promo code TAPES at checkout. Ka'Chava https://kachava.com/ - Go to https://kachava.com https://kachava.com/ and use code TAPES for 15% off your first order. Progressive http://progressive.com/ - Drivers who switch and save with Progressive save over $900 on average. Visit Progressive.com http://progressive.com/ and see if you can enjoy a little cash back. BiOptimizers https://bioptimizers.com/tapes - Make this the year you finally get your sleep, your energy, and yourself back. Get 15% off at https://bioptimizers.com/tapes when you use my code, TAPES. Ruggable http://ruggable.com/ - Refresh your home. Get 10% off your first order, sitewide, with promo code TAPES at RUGGABLE.com http://ruggable.com/. Grow Therapy http://growtherapy.com/TAPES - Whatever challenges you’re facing, Grow Therapy is here to help. Visit GrowTherapy.com/TAPES http://growtherapy.com/TAPES today to get started. Shopify http://shopify.com/tapes - Start your business today with the industry’s best business partner, Shopify. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at Shopify.com/tapes http://shopify.com/tapes. TruDiagnostic http://trudiagnostic.com/ - Right now, listeners can get 20% off at TruDiagnostic.com http://trudiagnostic.com/ using code TAPES at checkout. Choose TruAge, TruHealth, or the Combo Kit, as a one-time purchase or subscription. Zenni http://zenni.com/podcast - If your glasses are overdue for a refresh, go to Zenni.com/podcast http://zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for 15% off your first order. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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• 0:03Ky Dickens?

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• 0:59Ky Dickens?

  Today, we're spending time with Gavin Schultz and his mother Cindy. Gavin is differently verbal, a phrase he chose himself. When he was a young child, Gavin stopped talking and was diagnosed with autism. He went through years of therapy and then, at the age of nine, Gavin began spelling to communicate by pointing to letters on a letterboard. He now has been typing to communicate for more than a decade. And through that process, he shared a rich and deeply thoughtful inner world, shaped by theology and a profound sense of purpose. Today, we'll be asking Gavin some of the questions submitted by our Backstage Pass community, our subscriber platform, where listeners can access ad-free episodes, connect with other community members, and submit questions for guests who've been on the show. So, thank you to everyone who sent in questions. So Cindy, why don't you start by introducing yourself?

• 1:42Speaker 02

  My name is Cindy Schultz, and I've been married to my husband Randy for almost 48 years. I live in Racine, Wisconsin. I am a mom of five awesome children. The oldest is 46. Then we have our youngest son Gavin, who is 28.

• 1:58Ky Dickens?

  And Gavin, it's a pleasure to have you here. To begin, is there anything you'd like to share with us?

• 2:02Speaker 03

  N-O-T-Y-E-T, yes?

• 2:07Speaker 02

  Not yet.

• 2:09Ky Dickens?

  Great, okay. Well, one thing I thought was helpful was that in our email correspondence prior to this, Gavin let us know that he does not like to be referred to as non-verbal. And I think it's so important to use the language that people are comfortable with. So Gavin, how would you like to be referred to?

• 2:24Speaker 02

  What do you think? Think.

• 2:25Speaker 03

  V I F F.

• 2:28Ky Dickens?

  Gavin is failing to communicate and for the sake of brevity, we'll skip to the end of the sentence.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  Differently verbal.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  Differently verbal, yes.

• 2:35Ky Dickens?

  Great, and that's what we'll go with. Well, Cindy, why don't you start off by telling us a bit about Gavin's early years?

• 2:40Speaker 02

  I had Gavin at thirty-nine. He, you know, progressed, I thought, you know, meeting milestones and things like that. He didn't crawl, though. He was talking and he used to say, you know, mommy, daddy, bye-bye, up, down, birdie, things like that. And at the age of two, all of a sudden, all that went away. And he would just scream or temper tantrum or rocking and toe-walking and banging and lining his toys up. And he just like would go and bang his head. I said, okay, this is way more than terrible twos. I didn't know at that time that it was autism, but the neighbor next door that was a nurse had said,

• 3:20Speaker 02

  you know, I think he might have autism. And then at the age of three, then, we did get the diagnosis. And I remember feeling, you know, relieved, but yet I still cried because, you know, I just, I, it's hard, you know, it's really hard. But then I just dove right in and I do a lot of research. And I thought, nothing's going to stop me from helping him and finding the best therapies available and all that other stuff, right, Gav? So we did it, didn't we?

• 3:53Ky Dickens?

  And so I understand that Gavin was in ABA therapy for many years. And for listeners who might not know, ABA stands for Applied Behavior Analysis Therapy, and it's often the most recommended therapy for individuals with autism. And when Gavin was nine, he learned to communicate by pointing to letters on a letterboard. So Cindy, prior to Gavin learning to communicate, what did you believe or understand about Gavin's inner world?

• 4:15Speaker 02

  You know, I didn't really know what he knew. Um, I remember sitting and he used to play with ABC toys that would spell, you know, A for apple, B for ball, C for cat. And he had that with him. And I said to him, oh, spell daddy your name. And he spelled G A V I N S C H U L T Z. And I thought, I didn't even know you knew your last name or how to spell it. So that gave me a little inkling into, wow, he's really smart or he's really picked up on things.

• 4:50Ky Dickens?

  I love that, that the toy letter board kind of served as your first window into using a board with letters to spell to communicate. So then you're probably thinking, okay, maybe he knows more than you previously thought. And then how did you first even come to know that there was something like RPM or the rapid prompting method, right? That could like teach him to actually learn the motor control to spell his thoughts.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  I had heard a little bit about it. A friend of ours had told us about it. And then we met with Soma when Gavin was nine.

• 5:18Ky Dickens?

  She mentioned Soma here and she's the founder of the RPM method. She's an incredible force in the world of spelling to communicate. And she really innovated the technique for her son Tito, who is now one of the most incredible, quickest typers I've ever witnessed.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Soma came to Chicago and we had a bunch of other families that all met down there at this hotel for the weekend. And then she would work back to back to back, two sessions each day. All these parents were sitting in a room watching her working with these individuals. And we were just odd. My mouth was like to the floor. She was so super calm with them, never raised her voice, just kept going no matter what they were doing. And Gavin did, you know, really well with her. And she even had him doing math, which I like, didn't even know that he knew math. And he's getting all the answers correct. And I remember when he was in elementary school, you know, they were teaching him words like cat and dog and up and down.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  And working with Soma, he was spelling words like elephant and tabernacle and things like that. And I'm like, how do you even know how to spell this kind of stuff?

• 6:25Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, incredible. I mean, learning to communicate changes so many people's lives. And I know we sent a question to Gavin asking about this experience. Can you read what he spelled?

• 6:34Speaker 02

  All right, so the question was, "What was it like for you prior to RPM?" And he spelled "life for me before RPM was more frustrating." Because the people around me had no idea how intelligent I was. I felt locked inside, waiting for someone to let me out. Thank God, Soma had the key for learning. The RPM method has changed my life.

• 7:02Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, beautiful.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  The next question said, "How did it feel when you were able to communicate?" And you said, "Being able to learn through RPM lessons led to my ability to communicate. That was the happiest day of my life. I knew after meeting Soma and working with her, my life was going to change for the better. Soma believes in her students because RPM works for all ages." Do you have anything else to say about that, Gavin?

• 7:30Speaker 03

  E. Z.

• 7:32Ky Dickens?

  Okay, so Gavin is typing.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  Everyone needs to try RPM.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  Everyone needs to try it, yep. It doesn't hurt to try, does it?

• 7:39Ky Dickens?

  Gosh, I mean, I'm just so glad you found what works for you, Gavin. And so as he began typing more, did anything change in your lives or what started to unfold?

• 7:46Speaker 02

  It wasn't until I homeschooled him for middle school and high school. You know, I really noticed that he knew things that I didn't, you know. I'm teaching him things, but it seemed like he already knew it.

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• 9:20Speaker 02

  I would be doing something with him, a lesson or whatever, and he'd answer all these questions, right? And then all of a sudden, he would want to write a writing, you know, like we had music appreciation. He likes Pete Seeger, which is a very old folk singer, you know? And then he would write a really nice poem, a tribute to him. And I'm like, wow, you know, I'm like holding the board and back then I didn't even have the laptop up here. I'm like writing everything down and he's spelling and then I'm typing it on the laptop. I was just like odd.

• 9:51Ky Dickens?

  Did you ask him, you know, where he was learning this stuff from?

• 9:54Speaker 02

  Yes, we did. You know, I was like hoping he'd say that I was his best teacher. And he spelled, God is my greatest teacher, or other theologians, he spelled one day. And I'm like theologians, I'm like, whoa. And I'm like looking it up and he spelled it correctly. And I'm like, wow, how do you even know that word? Where did that come from? I'm like, how do you know this? You know, but you just said that God and other theologians are your teachers. So that's why you are taught from a much higher power than Cindy Schults sitting here in Caledonia, Wisconsin.

• 10:33Ky Dickens?

  So interesting. So I'm so curious Gavin, when those teachings come in from theologians, like how are you interfacing with them? You know, what does that experience look like?

• 10:43Speaker 03

  They whisper to me, I feel the Holy Spirit speaks to me.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Wow. Yeah, so he swears by it. It's the Holy Spirit telling him what to say, right, Gab? But I like that you've got that kind of connection. A friend of his bought him for his birthday, something about, I get my downloads from Moses or something. And I'm like, oh my goodness, yeah, that's Gavin. He gets the downloads from Moses, don't you?

• 11:08Ky Dickens?

  And so this connection to what Gavin calls the Holy Spirit, you know, we've actually talked to many differently verbal individuals who say that they get information or downloads from different teachers. Sometimes they call them masters. Sometimes they do reference different spiritual leaders or historical figures. And other times they say they learn or get information from non-speakers they meet on The Hill. And for those of you who did not listen to season one, The Hill is what many spellers call a realm that they, you know, travel to with their consciousness or astral travel to, to connect with others like themselves. And many said there are beings there who are passed on. So anyway, it's really interesting and very cool. You've got that connection Gavin.

• 11:53Ky Dickens?

  And so as the spelling journey continued, you know, oftentimes families will say first their child started spelling and then they realized all this knowledge they had and then other gifts started to appear. And so we had some questions for Gavin and if you wouldn't mind reading those and his responses.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  Let's see Gavin, how do you experience connections or awareness beyond spoken language? If at all, and you said, I can read people very well. I feel their energy. If they are happy or sad or concerned, I know it. God has given me special gifts to understand people. Thanks to Him for believing in me to use them properly. So yeah, we've had therapists come and work with him. And he would just sense that, you know, something was wrong or something happened or whatever. And then, you know, he says, oh, you're sad. And then they would say, well, yeah, so and so passed away and I'm feeling down or whatever.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  And even last month, when we did the RPM session, the very first thing he sat down, he started spelling and he was spelling to the practitioner lady about things. She's like, how did you know that I needed to hear that? And he says, I could just feel that things were bothering you. And he just gave her hope and comfort and it was so, so sweet.

• 13:13Ky Dickens?

  Yeah.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  And then the next question Gavin, it says, do you call it telepathy? And you said, I call it hearing from the Holy Spirit. From God Himself, He often tells me what to type and share with the world. Telepathy is real and I believe in it. However, I am not getting into all the hype of it. I feel you have to have discernment about certain things in life, and this is one of them.

• 13:41Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, and you know, it's just funny because a few weeks ago, another man we interviewed, Peter Kane, spelled that, you know, telepathy can be misused. So I think discernment is a really great quality to bring to it. But, you know, is telepathy something you two have experienced together?

• 13:57Speaker 03

  Why? E.

• 13:58Ky Dickens?

  So Gavin is typing.

• 13:59Speaker 03

  Yes, for sure. Connection is like peanut butter and jelly.

• 14:04Ky Dickens?

  That's funny. Peanut butter and jelly. I love it.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  We have a connection like peanut butter and jelly. Don't you know?

• 14:11Ky Dickens?

  It's amazing. It's such a good response.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  That's so funny. Yeah, he definitely has a sense of humor.

• 14:16Ky Dickens?

  So how did mind to mind communication or telepathy start for you both?

• 14:20Speaker 02

  One of the teachers said, oh, yeah, I thought of five words the other day and I wrote them down and I didn't show my kid them, but he wrote them in order. I thought, well, let me try that. Sure. Yep, he did it. And then just the other night I said, okay, I'm not going to write these words down. I'm just gonna think of something. And sure enough, he spelled everything I thought of. God, Gavin, how do you do that? You know, even my husband's in the room and he's like, how do you do that, Gavin?

• 14:47Ky Dickens?

  So Gavin, is this something more recent?

• 14:51Ky Dickens?

  And just so people know, he's typing his answer.

• 14:53Speaker 03

  No, I have had this talent, but keep it under wraps.

• 14:58Ky Dickens?

  Wow, okay. And so for you, Cindy, what did you make of all this?

• 15:01Speaker 02

  I tried to, I don't know, because, you know, it's just like voodoo, voodoo, you know, or you just like, you think like, oh, my goodness, you know, is this really, you know, true or whatever? And so, yeah, we've been very discerning about it because, like he says, I

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Do not want to do anything that would ever jeopardize anyone ever thinking that he did not write every one of his writings, because he did write every one of his writings, because he spells words I don't even know, much less how to spell them. You know, I'm like checking words and he always spells them right. I'm like, how do you know this?

• 15:39Speaker 03

  Telepathy has a time and place, but not when I am spelling.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 15:44Ky Dickens?

  And yeah, on that note, I mean, that's a question we sent ahead of time, wanting to know what Gavin feels about skeptics who say spellers are not authoring their own words. And for people new to this show, or even to this world, typing to communicate almost always involves a regulation partner, especially in the beginning, when someone needs the most support with motor planning and regulation. And critics sometimes argue that that means the communication is not fully independent, which to many people carries a bit of an air of ableism, because if you cannot control your body and you need support to communicate, why does their communication not count? But one of the most important distinctions to make here is that telepathy, according to many non-speakers themselves, is something separate entirely. It's a skill set innate to many, if not all of us,

• 16:27Ky Dickens?

  and it gets heightened when other senses are diminished. And in fact, many individuals who type to communicate say they need their communication partners to clear their minds while spelling, so they can focus on their own thoughts without distraction. Okay, so I digress. Why don't you go ahead and read Gavin's answer?

• 16:44Speaker 02

  You said, "I rather not waste time worrying about naysayers who doubt things. Everyone has their own opinion and they can be stubborn. I prefer to move forward and continue to do what works for me and countless others. I will always be a strong advocate for rapid prompting method."

• 17:06Speaker 02

  Anything else on that one?

• 17:08Speaker 03

  People who think they know better should not be such a negative Nancy.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  Negative Nancy.

• 17:13Ky Dickens?

  And Sydney, what are your thoughts on the backlash against, you know, letter boards to communicate? Or even just the fact that telepathy means someone's not authoring their own words? Like, do you ever think about that? Or have you encountered any pushback personally?

• 17:26Speaker 02

  I have not too much, no. Because I even bought a board that's, you know, like, clear, you know? And I am like, okay, I'm holding this. This is my arm here, you know? And he's pointing and his other hand is over there. And it's like, how can it not be him doing this, you know?

• 17:47Ky Dickens?

  Gosh, it's so funny that you said that because, you know, and I want to be kind here, but I have no other way to explain this. That one of the biggest trolls around spelling on the internet, who's always like bashing it and insulting typers and saying it's not real, once was talking to a scientist who was researching spelling to communicate. And she said to the scientist, have you seen it with your own eyes? And the scientist said, yes. And then she goes, okay, you're a lost cause. Because once you see it, then you believe it. And it's kind of like, what? Anyway, okay, go on.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Right, yeah. And even with the whole telepathy stuff. Yeah, it was funny because we were out to lunch with a friend of ours. And the mom said to Gavin, could you please tell him not to read my mind? Because she had said something about, you know, I think blank, blank, blank, and he spells blank, blank, blank. And it was funny because then Gavin even said, just clear your mind.

• 18:39Ky Dickens?

  Oh, that's funny. Okay, so she was thinking blank, blank, blank, and he wrote it. And I've actually heard teachers who say that they'll start to think of a word over and over again, like pumpkin, pumpkin, pumpkin. And the typer might write, stop saying pumpkin over and over again. But really, what I've heard from so many typers at this point is that you literally just have to clear your mind. Like, clear your mind of all thoughts.

• 19:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, Gavin says, literally, this is what he typed. Come on, no. I can read my mom's mind too, but face it, we are more intelligent than both of their minds together. So, you know, it gets down to, it has nothing to do with, oh, you're reading my mind, I'm reading your mind, or whatever. It's their intelligence. You know, I really try to not have anything going. He said something about, you know, being way smarter. And by the time I would think of something for him to write in my mind, he's already got it written. And yeah, or whatever. So it's like, don't even go there, Mom, you know?

• 19:43Ky Dickens?

  That's great. And I mean, obviously Gavin, you're so smart. It's always so uplifting. I mean, I think to all of us, you know, how smart and competent so many individuals who've been dismissed as differently abled are. And so, you know, I guess beyond connecting with the Holy Spirit, are there any other spiritual gifts Gavin experiences or insights he wants to share about the world and about consciousness?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Gavin said, I have the gift of seeing angels, and that is a beautiful gift. So many times, people are too busy with life, and they miss the gifts God puts right in front of them. My senses are heightened, so I notice things others may not. Be still with God, and he will show you remarkable things. I see auras around people. I can feel strong energy if a person is good or bad. Of course, being around lots of people at one time can be difficult. I am grateful that the people I hang out with are good

• 20:42Speaker 02

  energy. Consciousness is taking the time to be more aware of every single thing. This whole angel thing, you know, he had, what was it, grand mal seizure in 2020, and they would not let my husband or I stay that night at the hospital. And I'm like, are you kidding me? This is, you know, I probably said it Gavin, a non-verbal autistic person, and you're not letting me stay? Oh, no, no, because we don't know, you know, he has a high fever, and we, you know, he could have COVID. I said, he doesn't have COVID. He's got a high fever because he just had the seizure, you know, or whatever. But they wouldn't let me stay. And I didn't sleep at all that night. But the next morning, they let me come in.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  And he later spelled that there was nothing to worry about, Mom, because every room I was in. God's heavenly beings were in the room. And we've had therapy done at different places too, throughout the years. And, you know, one time he'd look in the corner and he'd start giggling and smiling. And we're like, what, what are you doing? And he goes, oh, never mind me. I'm just noticing the angel, you know, by the lamp. And we're like, what?

• 21:58Ky Dickens?

  And Gavin, can I ask what that experience is like for you when you see angels? And it's something I have to, you know, say, like a lot of non-speakers have shared. And, you know, I guess, is it always the same? Or do you have to be in a certain like state to see or, or access them? And like, what do they look like when you see them? And do they talk to you? And can you hear them?

• 22:19Speaker 03

  A lot are beautiful beings, not always. No, I see them, but I feel God sends them when we need them most.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. And there was one time too, when we were at the other day program that he was with. And the woman that created that program was on the phone with the hospital or a doctor for her daughter at the time. And we were all in the gym class. We were sitting and doing exercises in the chair. And Gavin kept looking over by her. And he spelled, there's an angel by Annette's shoulder right now. So after she got off the phone, then we went over there and said that there was an angel by you, Gavin said. It was like a tough time for her. So God knew that she needed an angel by her, right? Yeah.

• 23:03Ky Dickens?

  It's beautiful. Okay. So Cindy, I know we sent you a question for Gavin, which was, what are your desires for yourself and humanity? So how did Gavin answer that one?

• 23:12Speaker 02

  This was cute. I'm not sure if I will get married, but I do have a special girl that has my heart. Being best friends is great. I will always continue to learn new things with an open mind. I would like to accomplish getting RPM spellers unite activities set up in the future. And you said, my desires are to be a published author. Uh, of my book, I also want to live someday with my friends at Matthias Academy Home. I pray that humanity can become loving and kind and stop being so hateful. And a lot of his writings too are about being kind, showing kindness, you know,

• 23:55Speaker 02

  how hard is it to do one kind act every day, you know, or things like that.

• 23:59Ky Dickens?

  Wow, that's so awesome. And Gavin, you mentioned your book just now. And in the emails you shared, Cindy, uh, you said that you've been collecting his writings and are compiling them into a book. Can you tell us, you know, a little bit about what inspired that?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Gavin has just been spelling for well over a decade and he just always wants his writings out there and wanting people to know how intelligent they are and that just because their voices don't work. And oftentimes it is the apraxia with him that just, it doesn't connect, you know, the body with the, with the mind, right? It makes it hard to do that. And so he felt that it was important to let other people know that he's in there. They all are in there and they need to be heard and appreciated for everything that they do know.

• 24:48Ky Dickens?

  Ah, so great. And Gavin, in your words, what would you say the book is about?

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Gavin said, "My book is about hope and encouragement for readers to believe in the one true God. It will help those who read it realize to never underestimate a special needs individual's ability. We are remarkable in so many ways." Tell her what you did today, Gavin. It was so exciting.

• 25:14Speaker 03

  I signed the contract for my book, The Hopeful One to Be Published.

• 25:17Ky Dickens?

  Okay, so Gavin spelled, "I signed the contract for my book, The Hopeful One to Be Published."

• 25:22Speaker 02

  He was so excited.

• 25:23Ky Dickens?

  Congratulations. I mean, it's a huge deal.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 25:27Ky Dickens?

  Mm, so awesome.

• 25:40Ky Dickens?

  So, as I mentioned, we have a bunch of questions from our backstage past subscribers. And a lot of these questions cover a lot of ground, but maybe Cindy, you could read the ones that you've chosen to answer, and then read his responses.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  The first question was, "What makes you most happy about the world? And what makes you most frustrated?" And you said, Gavin, "What makes me most happy with the world is having family and friends to hang out with and having a good time. I am happy surrounding myself with like-minded people who have a positive outlook on life and love the Lord. My frustration with the world is too many people are negative and so hateful in their actions towards each other. I want kindness and love shown, not hate. Together, if we all show love and do acts of kindness daily, think of what a difference that would make in the world."

• 26:35Ky Dickens?

  Yeah, that's so beautiful.

• 26:37Speaker 02

  And that too, thinking about if they are reading our mind, and can read our mind, you know, do you want them to, "Oh, Mom's always depressed," you know, or "This is going on and that's going on," or "She's thinking that?" It really makes you, as a parent, more aware that you want to be happy and more positive, because it's not good to always feel those kinds of negative thoughts.

• 27:05Ky Dickens?

  Totally. It's a great reminder.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  All right. The next question is, "Can non-speaking autistic people connect telepathically with severe Down's Syndrome people? Are they also in there? And can they learn to communicate through spelling or any other method?" And you said, "First of all, I do not like to be called non-speaking autistic person. How about calling us differently speaking?"

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Yep, and he, he does have a shirt that says, "Everyone communicates differently," a friend of his got for him. We can have connections with everyone, even severe Down's Syndrome people. I have Down's friends and we communicate very well together. It does not all have to be done telepathically, but it can for sure happen that way. For everyone's information, God created us all in there. I so believe that now because back in the day, you know, so many people that, well, they don't know anything, you know, or they, or they would talk in front of him. And it's like, he's hearing you, you know, you know, he's listening and, and it just

• 28:21Speaker 02

  drives you crazy Gavin. We all have the ability to learn and with love and patience, the other disabilities can learn to communicate. It is all about never giving up on us and believing in our abilities. Look past the diagnosis and do not let it define you. I use my weaknesses to be my strongest strengths. And he does. At the day program that he goes to, there's all different disabilities there. And he's got several Down's friends. And the one that was doing bowling with us or whatever, he was just like so excited to, you know, communicate back and forth with Gavin. And oftentimes I would show him photos or whatever. And then I'd say, "Oh, what do you think of that?

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Or do you want to write anything about this?" And then he would write something really cool. And there was a photo, one of your friends was holding another girl in a wheelchair's hand. And he wrote this beautiful writing about, "They don't have to talk to be connected," which then also made me think, "What are they talking about?"

• 29:26Ky Dickens?

  Yes, I love that.

• 29:27Speaker 02

  All right. The next question was, "Do you think non-speakers are experiencing this physical lifetime here?"

• 29:36Speaker 02

  In order to teach others to help us evolve, and you said absolutely, God had a plan when he sent me here. We are here to learn from. We are the gentle souls of love and peace that he wants the world to hear from. Our minds are not filled with the noise of this world. Our minds are filled with God's knowledge. To spread the light of God on this dark world is what I do to give hope to everyone. Too many are depressed and have anxiety. They need to know God is there for them. I feel we were sent to save the world from despair.

• 30:19Speaker 02

  People can learn a tremendous amount from us if they only take the time to listen. The next question is, do you find it insulting to be asked to do these tests and card identifications? Uh, what color is on cards a hundred times to prove that you have these skills?

• 30:39Ky Dickens?

  And for listeners, this is a reference to some of the tests and studies that were being done to try to test or prove that telepathy is occurring. And we did a lot of those in season one of the telepathy tapes. And there's more tests in the telepathy tapes forthcoming film and a bunch of tests on our backstage pass. So, okay, so Gavin, what did you say?

• 30:56Speaker 02

  He said, I personally was never asked a hundred times a question. However, I feel it takes the average person that many times to finally realize how intelligent we really are. We have remarkable skills. Everyone needs to believe in us. Um, the next question is, what are the challenges you would prefer to have to optimize your skills for helping people? And you said, I would rather people take the time to spend with me, get to know me, see how I interact, listen to my words to learn from me that way.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  We are not lab rats to be used, but intelligent human beings brought here by God for a purpose. This world would freak out if they knew what we all know. I rather stay humble and not boast about my abilities. And then the last question that the listeners were asking were, I would love to ask a non-speaker, have they been able to communicate telepathically in the womb and as babies? And that I never ever thought of even asking him. So I was excited to hear what he said. And he said, maybe some have, but I never did. Telepathy is a gift

• 32:13Speaker 02

  that happened later on for me. When I started noticing other gifts God was blessing me with, like seeing angels, I started to feel strong energy of people's emotions and could at times read their minds. Like I said before, I am careful to not overuse this gift. It is something I worry about getting out of control. That's what he said about all the questions sent in and what you guys wanted.

• 32:40Ky Dickens?

  Thank you so much Gavin for these just thoughtful responses and Cindy for reading them. Gavin, is there anything else you want to mention before we end?

• 32:48Speaker 03

  Thank you for taking this time with me. Say hi to everyone from the Hopeful One Gavin Schultz. Love to you all.

• 32:55Ky Dickens?

  Love to you all from everyone listening and our entire team. And thank you so much for sharing your story and insights.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  Thank you. It was good to see you. Take care.

• 33:05Ky Dickens?

  All right. Thanks again. Bye bye.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  Bye bye.

• 33:07Ky Dickens?

  That's it for this episode of The Talk Tracks. But new episodes will be released every Wednesday, so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads, even the veiled ones that knit together our reality. And please remember to stay kind, stay curious, and that being a true skeptic requires an open mind. To dive in deeper, subscribe to our Backstage Pass by visiting our website. With it, you'll unlock access to bonus content like telepathy tests, Ask Me Anything interviews with myself and guests. You'll be able to enjoy the podcast ad-free, connect with other members on our Telepathy Tribe Discord, and hear and see exclusive content from the Telepathy Tapes Vault. Visit our website at thetelepathytapes.com for more info on how to subscribe to our Backstage Pass. Thank you to my amazing collaborators. Producers Catherine Ellis and Selena Kennedy,

• 33:52Ky Dickens?

  technical directing, audio mix and finishing by Jeremy Cole, opening and closing music by Elizabeth P. W., and original logo and cover art by Ben Condor Design. I'm Kai Dickens, your executive producer, writer, and host.