From Delta Force Operator to Professional Mercenary | Dale Comstock (throwback episode)

Original Airdate 6/24/22 Dale Comstock was the youngest operator in Delta Force when he joined from the 82nd Airborne and was the master breacher on the military's first successful hostage rescue mission, Operation Acid Gambit which rescued Kurt Muse from the clutches of Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega. Comstock's adventures didn't end when he retired from the Army just before 9/11. He went on the serve as a paramilitary contractor in Afghanistan and then went on to become a mercenary in places like Yemen. On this episode we're going to focus on Dale's post Army life as a security contractor, mercenary, and bodyguard. Support the show here: https://www.patreon.com/TheTeamHouse 01:55 Transition to Dale's post-service military career as a paramilitary contractor. 02:20 Detailed stories about the contracting mission at Barja Matal, Afghanistan. 15:52 Recounting the moment a Mi-17 helicopter was shot down into the compound's landing zone. 25:04 Concluding the discussion about the Afghan partners killed after the U. S. withdrawal. 31:40 The transition to Hollywood and how Dale became a stunt coordinator and met his wife. 42:00 Detailed discussion of Operation Acid Gambit (The Kurt Muse hostage rescue in Panama). 1:03:19 Shift to his mercenary in Yemen and the Red Sea. 1:18:07 The story of being detained and questioned while working in Hong Kong. 1:30:17 Discussion of his work coaching executives and CEOs and his comparison to the warrior mindset. 2:15:00 Discussing his overarching philosophy on "The Physics of Success" and his new book. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-team-house--5960890/support?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss.

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  The Team House with your hosts, Jack Murphy and David Park.

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  Hey, everyone. Welcome to episode 151 of The Team House. I'm Jack Murphy here with David Park. Dee over in that direction producing. We're very excited here to be with our guest, Dale Comstock. Dale is somebody who has done a little bit of everything, kind of done it all in life. Dale has served in the 82nd Airborne in Special Forces, served as a Delta operator. I believe, Dale, you were the youngest. Operator in the unit at the time when you when you graduated selection. This guy, this guy participated in Operation Acid Gambit, the Kurt Muse Hostage Rescue Mission in Panama.

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  The first, that was the first successful military hostage rescue operation historically that that our country's ever done. Dale served in the Gulf War, served as a team sergeant. And then he retired and went on to become a paramilitary contractor, had further adventures over in Afghanistan, which we're going to talk about a little bit in a moment. And then, you know, Dale, he wrote a memoir called American Badass. He thought this was kind of his sunset book. He was going to fade away into the into the ether after he finished this book. But instead, crazy things keep kept happening to him in places like Yemen, Hong Kong, Singapore, and even in Hollywood.

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  So we're going to talk a lot about Dale's sort of post-service military career. There's, there's a lot more to Dale. I think you should go read American Badass if you want to hear more about his military career. We're going to kind of talk about his post-service, post-military career and get into some of the things that he's doing today and some of the books he's working on. So Dale, thank you so much for joining us from from Bali tonight.

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  Hey, man, thanks for having me. It's a pleasure.

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  Yeah, absolutely, man. So sticking with that theme, that that little intro that I went off on. I was wondering if you could start off telling us some stories about Bajamatal in Afghanistan. I believe you were part of a very small group of people that got sent up into, I mean, that was really bad guy country. And the terrain just vicious up in that part of Afghanistan.

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  Yeah, so there were actually three fobs up there. And each fob, I believe, had a roughly about a platoon, a platoon plus element occupying this fob.

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  Earlier, a couple of months earlier, one of the fobs had been overrun. And one of the encampments had been overrun. And I think there was a total of nine casualties, nine Americans were killed. A lot of Afghanis, of course Taliban. And so the decision was made to pull out the other outposts, the other two outposts that were up there. And one of them was, you know, Bajamatal.

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  The way I can just, so we were asked by US Mill if we could bring our guys in to help support their withdrawal. So what they were gonna do is rip, like literally in the course of three days, they were gonna literally take everything out of this camp and extract it. So the camp was in a valley with nothing but high ground all the way around it. And it was, as you pointed out, it was some really rugged terrain. It kind of reminded me, I remember landing at night one time thinking, man, this feels like the jungles of Panama, you know, very wooded, very humid, very, you know, rough terrain. But, but they were sitting right down in this little, in this little, little tiny valley, man. And the

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  camp was probably a hundred, hundred fifty meters square, maybe. It was very small. It had one little HLZ in the middle that could support one helicopter landing on it. That was it. And this platoon had been there for at least a year already. And they got no break, man. They were literally every day in gunfights. They couldn't even leave the wire to go patrol. And they were constantly on defense. They were getting hammered down there. And so the decision was made that we gotta pull them out. But they couldn't just bring in helicopters. The guys would load up everything and fly away because as soon as the helicopters would come in, they would, you know, they would be in contact.

• 5:56Speaker 06

  So, so the plan was for us, me and my guys to fly in, we, they actually, they brought us in, we flew in on some of my seventeens. And we had two lifts. We went in, I think it was probably a total of about thirty of us, me and two other Americans and then the rest Afghans. And we flew in the middle of the night, roughly around ten, eleven o'clock at night, got out, met with the commander, and basically he explained to us what the, what the mission was. Basically, what they wanted us to do was go outside the wire and patrol the area around the base camp. And basically, just keep the bad guys back, keep

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  them engaged so that the soldiers within the camp could load their gear. They were gonna bring in some helicopters. They were gonna load up, uh, they actually had a Humvee there too. I don't know how they got that there, why they was used to it, but they had a Humvee, they were gonna take that out. Um, they were just gonna load up these aircraft over the course of three days and just keep lifting everything else, lifting everything else, uh, out of the camp. And hopefully by, within seventy-two hours, the camp will be evacuated. In the meantime, our job was to just go out there and make contact with the bad guys and keep them back. So this operation could, uh, take place. Well, I remember that night we arrived, we met with the camp, the captain, um, told him what we're gonna go do.

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  Um, we refitted and then, uh, we went out the wire, um, and we had, our mission was to go up the road about maybe four or five kilometers. There was a Madrasa up there, um, and the Taliban used that as a staging base. Basically, they would link up there, you know, get on their war paint shit. And then, uh, you know, they would launch their assaults from there. So we were just gonna go meet them there at the Madrasa and get it on. So as we leave the wire, we're walking up the road, it's, uh, relatively dark and, and then all of a sudden, um, the first CH forty-seven is flying in. It's gonna land, they're gonna load it, and then it's gonna take off with its, uh, with its, uh, supply.

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  Well, as the helicopter was coming in to a, for a, you know, a very slow and low hover, um, there was a Taliban on the other side of the wire with an RPG. And guess what he does? He shoots it down and it crashes into the fucking camp. Oh shit. And so, yeah, onto the only HLZ they got, right? So bam, it slams into, into the deck. Um, the, uh, round went through the, the floor of the helicopter, it actually took off the leg of one of the, uh, crew chiefs. Um, so now we got a disabled helicopter sitting inside the camp. Um, they can't get it out, they can't do anything with it, they can't bring in more helicopters, can't medevac, medevac the guys out.

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  And then the firefight started. So we turn around and you could just see green tracers coming down from the high ground, red traces going up, you know, and it's a full-on firefight, man. And so we're standing there going, okay, well, what do we do? Do we try to go back and, uh, and support them? But then we knew that would be a problem because trying to re-enter, you know, friendly forward lines, you know, we're gonna get caught in a crossfire. Yeah, yeah. There's gonna be a, there's gonna be drama with that, right? So. We realized, okay, there's nothing we can do out here. Let the, let the army, let the military, you know, deal with those guys and then we're going to continue mission. So we go up the road, we make it to the madrassa and it's a dry hole, there's nothing there. So we're like, okay, let's move it on up, push up about another four kilometers, there's another village up there.

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  Again, we know this is a, this is all Taliban country. And so we go up there, as we're crossing the bridge, we get, uh, word that we got squatters going out the other side of the, uh, of the village. So anyways, they, they clear the village, they get away, nothing happened. Uh, we come back that morning, uh, the firefight's over and, uh, you know, we refit, regrouped and wow, we got this issue with this helicopter sitting in the camp. Now what are we gonna do? So, um, what was really interesting was, and I didn't know this, but apparently the armies, they have pilots that are specially trained to fly crippled aircraft, right?

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  So what they did is they brought us one, this one badass pilot, man, and they roped him in, the fast rope, and his job was to go down there and start that aircraft, um, and fly it, fly it out of there. Wow. You know, broken haul, man. Yeah, I didn't know that, you know, I was like, damn, this guy's got some balls, man. One guy, man, that's his job, right? And so, uh, so when they brought him in, they, they roped him in and, uh, then they brought a bunch of fast movers came flying in and basically was strafing the, the hillsides, uh, to keep the bad guys down while this guy was, you know, you know, turning knobs and pulling the levers and cranking this thing up. He actually got it out of there. He actually flew this, this broken helicopter out of that, uh, HLZ, cleared it up for us.

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  Um, so we decide, okay, the next night, we'll continue mission. We decided, okay, let's go, I forget the direction, but, uh, I think it was west. We said we're gonna go west, there's a village about six kilometers away, we know Taliban states out of there also. And so we're just gonna go down there and, you know, set up an ambush, knowing they're gonna come and hit the camp that night and we're just gonna ambush them. So, so we take off and I remember we're walking around this, this ridge line, it's really steep, man, I mean really steep. And, uh, we're walking on a goat trail that was maybe eighteen inches, twenty-four inches wide. It was real muddy, it's slippery, there's a lot of water running down and, uh, we're wearing night vision goggles, it's pitch black, there's a lot of trees.

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  And uh cruising along cruising along and then all of a sudden I hear my interpreter behind me fall off the cliff, right? And he and he falls like maybe, I don't know, twenty, twenty-five, thirty feet down the side of this cliff, right? And he lands on a little ledge down there. And I could hear him, you know, you know, making, you know, hoofing the puffing sounds and stuff. And and I turned around, I look down, I see him, and I see what looks like just his whole face is like black. And and the black was actually blood, I wear night vision goggles. So look, you know, it was dark black, but it was all blood. And he knocked his teeth out. His teeth were sticking out through his lips, through his gums and stuff. And uh, and I looked at, his name was H D. We call him H D for Harley Davidson, right? He loved Harley Davidson, even though he'll

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  never own one. That was his thing, you know, so we always call him H D. I go, H D, you okay? Yes, sir. I'm okay. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And I'm like, you don't look good. Never mind. And so we finally, we would pull him up and I'm looking at him like, holy shit, dude, you're you're a mess. And uh, and then he get he begins to explain to me how that was the first night he ever wore night vision goggles. I said, are you kidding me? This is the first time you've been out on operation and you're wearing N V G's on a goat trail? And uh, I'm like, holy shit, man, what were you thinking, dude? And so anyways, um, you know, he fell off the cliff because he couldn't see because he didn't use, he didn't know how to use night vision goggles properly. And uh, so we're sitting

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  there and we had a um, a Navy medic with us and I bring him back, corpsman, and he's kind of patching up, you know, H H D. And then while we're sitting there, we're looking with the thermals, we could see, so we're on this ridgeline, we could see directly across to another ridgeline about two hundred fifty, three hundred meters across from us. And we notice a small fire burning. And uh, and so, hold on, hold on for a second.

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  I got my mate in here, she's cleaning and talking to my employees.

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  So anyway. So we see this fire burning and we're looking, looking, looking, go, okay, that looks really suspicious, man. Well, it turns out it was 12 Taliban. And what they were doing, they were one terrain feature away from the camp. So what they were doing is staging there, what they're gonna do is get all spun up and they come around and hit the camp that night from that position. So that was their, you know, their MSS, basically, support site. And, uh, um, and so anyways, um, so we, we call, we call for close air support. And there was happens to be, I think it was an F-15 on station. He had, he had a couple of JDAMs with him.

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  And, uh, he was quite a ways out, you couldn't even hear the aircraft. So we said, hey, you, this is us. Um, you know, we, we think we've identified Taliban location, we gave them the location. He's looking, using his, his optics. And like I said, he was so far out, you couldn't even hear the guy. You had no idea he was on station, but he could actually see, and he's actually counting. He goes, yeah, you got 12 guys armed AK-47s, weapon systems, blah, blah, blah. And he's in detail describing these guys, like, holy shit. So we're like, all right, well, send them to Allah, man. And so the guy releases a thousand pound JDAM. And, uh, the time of flight was 45 seconds. And when he released it, he said, yeah, it's in round. We actually laid the target for him. And, uh, and you never heard the aircraft.

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  You never even heard the JDAM until it went off. And when it went off, all you saw was pieces and parts flying through the air.

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  Arms and legs, AK-47s. We, we kept it all, all on infrared video. And, uh, we kind of watched it the next day and reveled over it. But so, so we did that. And so we're like, okay, a mission accomplished. We don't need to go all the way to the village. We go back and then, uh, The next day, these guys got the ass, I guess, decided it was time for some payback. So they come rolling around there again, some more of them. And there happened to be an OP, LPOP up on the, on the high ground. And a bunch of privates up there with M240, 249, and they just unleashed and killed another 12. Killed another 12 in broad daylight coming around there. So we smoked quite a few guys in a couple of days we were there. And we ended up, you know, getting everybody out, every last man out, get all the equipment

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  out and was able to withdraw within the 72 hours anyways, in spite of a shot down helicopter in, in the compound. So, um, but it was really, you know, looking back at that, it's like, man, these guys were living hardcore. Yeah. Little poncho hooters for a year, sleeping in the mud. They had no wifi, no TV. They had nothing, man. They were living, they were living in really rough fuel conditions for a year and they're fighting it out every day. And I'm like, man, that's, you know, that's some hardcore shit there, but glad to get them out of there because, man, they were taking a beating and they were pretty much combat ineffective. They couldn't leave the wire. They're just sitting ducks, you know, and, uh, and getting POC shots at them. So, um, but that was an interesting mission.

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  It was a lot of fun, uh, went pretty fast and, uh, but, uh, you know, we got it done, got everybody out there. So unfortunately, the other camp, um, we didn't deal with the other camp, but the first camp, they took some serious casualties up there. I remember when that firefight happened, it was a big deal. And this, these three FOVs, um, were the northernmost US mil camps in, in Afghanistan. There was nothing else up there. I mean, they were way out there too. I mean, really tough terrain to get to. Um, you know, like I said, the helicopter is the only way you get in and out of there. They shot down the one helicopter to the HLZ. It could have been worse, man. Yeah. I could just imagine it had this thing, you know, disintegrated in the compound, you know, maybe, you know, kill a bunch of men or something, you know, and hit fuel dumps.

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  You know, it could have been a disaster, man. But, uh, it all worked out. Um, like I said, I was really impressed with the pilot. I didn't know that they had guys like that. It's like, that guy's got a pair of balls like a bull, man. Yeah. You're gonna come in there and. They're gonna rope him in at night and then he's gonna get, he's gonna get a cockpit and start pushing buttons and pulling levers and, you know, praying to God this thing fucking flies out of there, you know? And he did it, man. He actually did it. So, pretty cool.

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  You know, Dale, that's actually, you know, you mentioned these FOBs and that's something, and for those of you don't know, it's just a forward operating bases, you know, a little camp out in the middle of nowhere generally, but, you know, we've talked about how special ops is really, you know, everybody loves the sexy mission of the, of special ops, but these conventional forces were out there, like at these remote places or on these lawn patrols, mixing it up all the time and they really don't get the credit that they deserve.

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  No, that's true, man. It's, that's true. Um, I was up in the Coringal also, and so you had a bunch of, uh, FOBs in that area. Same thing. Those guys were just getting pounded every day, man. Um, Coringal was probably, it was regarded as the most dangerous place on the planet at that time. And it wasn't if you're gonna get in contact, it was when and how bad. Um, but if you go up into Coringal, you're gonna get smacked, you know? And there was, there were guys up there every day, you know, slinging lead with each other with the bad guys, you know? Um, yeah, so, yeah, they're, you're right, man. They're out there, they're doing it, you know, and, uh, they're living in some hardcore conditions, you know? And, uh, and, uh, it sucks, but on one hand, you know, I mean, I, I kinda live for that, man.

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  Yeah, right, right.

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  Of course you do. Yeah, Dale, it's, I recall, I mean, you retired from the army like just before nine 11. And I mean, I, I don't think there's any way that a dude like you was gonna miss the war on terror. Uh, you did find a way, of course, obviously, to deal your way into the action. Um, I remember you once telling me that you actually went out on ops by yourself a few times with an image, uh, which I thought was pretty cool. I mean, what was this experience like? I guess we're gonna say OGA. What was that like by comparison to your military experience?

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  It was, I want to say it was better because, um, one, I was entrusted with a lot of men and a lot of money, um, and mission, right? So, you know, I mean, I was literally downrange. I, I, I only can describe it like Colonel Kurtz up the river in Apocalypse Now, you know? There were, there were times I was up the river in a camp with me, maybe one or two other Americans, maybe, and, uh, you know, with anywhere from fifty to five hundred, you know, Afghan mercenaries. And, uh, especially in the, in the beginning of the war, you know, I had, uh, a lot of latitude just to get the job done, you know? I can remember walking

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  into the camp, to the base, um, opposite, talking to the chief there, going, "Hey, man, I'm gonna take the guys out tonight, um, we'll go down the road, I'm gonna hit that target, be back tomorrow morning." And he was like, "Okay." And he's out there, he's painting and shit, you know, he's, he's doing, he's like doing some weird jobs, you know? It's like, "Yeah, okay, yeah, uh, just don't get nobody hurt, you know, let me know what happens tomorrow morning." Like, "Yeah, Roger that." And I'd go do my thing, you know? And, uh, and there was no, you know, there was no oversight, um, people just trusted me, you know? And, uh, they knew that, uh, you know, I was there to do the right thing to fight the war on terror and to beat the bad guys, whatever it took. And, uh, which is really cool, man, to have that kind of, uh, given that kind of responsibility and,

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  uh, and had that kind of trust to go do that. And there were times, you're right, as the war went on, um, I, I worked with some of the same guys a lot, and, uh, you know, they trusted me, I took care of them, you know, I, I, I mean, I treated, they were my soldiers, but, uh, I treated them with respect, with dignity, you know, I cared about them and their lives as well as their families. And so, you know, I did what I thought a leader's supposed to do, you know? Unfortunately, you know, this is gonna, I'm gonna say it, but, uh- Lot of guys don't get it, particularly, you know, in the Navy. Um, you know, they're working with the indigenous, and I say the Navy, I'm talking about particularly the SEALs. You know, they don't have that background of working with indigenous people.

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  And Green Berets, as you know, you know, Jack, uh, both you guys, you know, that was our mission, man, is to, is to win hearts and minds, train the indigenous to basically stand up our own armies, um, and to go fight, fight war. And, uh, and that required that we took care of our guys and we treated them with dignity, with respect. We didn't treat them like dogs. We didn't talk shit to them. We didn't abuse them. Um, because that will come back and haunt you. That will, that will end you somewhere on the battlefield by your own men. Uh, if you do that wrong. And so, but these other guys didn't get that. And, uh, I got countless stories about that. But anyways, um, that was my mission was, you know, always do the right thing by my soldiers.

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  And so I, look, I had to pay, you know, I had to check book and, you know, the guys did a really good job. It's like, you know, here you go. Here's a bonus to take the day off. Take two days off in fact, you know, um. You know, I took care of my guys that way because I knew that would, you know, the return would be huge on that down the road when I needed it. And I was right. So I had a platoon of guys that, uh, forty-two in fact, that, uh, you know, these guys, I would literally go out on operations by myself with them. Now I know I'm breaking, you know, I was breaking protocol and all kinds of rules, two man rule. You know, as an American, you gotta go out with another American. But I got to the point with these guys that I trusted them so much. We'd been out downrange so many times.

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  That, uh, and, and I mean, I remember them telling me, you know, I remember one time that they had a little formation. And they're like, Mr. Dale, um, you know, we will never let anything happen to you. We will build a human wall around you. We will protect you with our lives. And I, and I believed that, man, because I saw it, you know? And so I could go out downrange for two, three days at a time. Um, nobody knew where the hell I was at. You know, I, I was everywhere. Afghanistan, standing out in the freaking middle of nowhere, you know? And, uh, we're going out and hitting targets and stuff, you know, and they could have easily, they could have easily let the air out of me out there somewhere and buried me. We don't know where he went, you know, and but that never happened. And, you know, maybe I got lucky. I don't know, but I don't think so. I became very good friends with a lot of these guys, particularly one of them.

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  He's a, he was one of the commanders, young, young guy, but definitely a go getter, man. The whole platoon was, this particular platoon was very, was very different from your typical Afghan. They were more western oriented, their mindset, their personalities, you know, you could tell they loved the West. They loved the American way. And so they were different in that regard. But the commander had been around for a while, although he was young. His, you know, his family had fought the Mujahideen, he had lost, you know, family members. And this guy was on the hit list, you know, Taliban wanted this guy because of who he was and what he was in charge of.

• 24:40Speaker 06

  And I was always afraid that, you know, when we pull out as Americans, this guy is going to get smoked. They're going to kill him, man, you know, him and his family. And so one day I just never showed back up. I'd been going to the same camp for about almost eighteen months. And then I got reassigned because there was a problem at another camp. And it had to do with, you know, the American Afghan interaction, you know, poor leadership, blah, blah, blah. And I kind of got sent out there to try to, you know, fix this, this situation. So I never got to go back and see, you know, the commander and never saw him after that.

• 25:21Speaker 06

  And then long after I got out, I always wondered what happened to him, you know, I'm like, man, I'm afraid that, you know, he's going to get killed one day. And so low and behold, I get a message on Facebook. So I was always operating under, you know, a fake name, fake everything, you know, nobody knew my real name. And this guy had found me on Facebook and he's messaging me and, and he's like, hey, man. He goes, me and my family are now in the United States, you know, he had, he had five, five boys and a daughter, I think. And, and his wife, they all made it to the States, made to Virginia, got a job. You know, people took care of him, you know, but they got him a special. got him out of there because they recognized that this guy is gonna get he's gonna get killed man no doubt he's gonna get killed when America's left and you know look what

• 26:05Speaker 06

  happened man I mean let's look what happened last August right there we go how many people got killed you know matter how many people are still getting killed you know I got I guarantee you he would have been one of those guys man in fact some of my guys were killed some of my guys they they basically um I think it was a total of thirteen it was the last stand for them man they literally fought to the last bullet and they got killed um you know trying to keep the keep the Taliban wave back so I know it's I know it would happen and it was gonna happen to him he he beat the odds and got out of there he's living in the United States I actually just saw him about two years ago which was really cool but um but yeah this you know I would go out with these guys you know on a regular

• 26:47Speaker 06

  basis by myself you know and I trusted him and uh it is what it is you know we got the job done and um I kinda had a different perspective you know um you know I remember the guy that shot down a turbine three three okay um he was a young guy in fact and we got intel one day that he had um arrived at one of the local villages and we we knew he was there and I'm like great let's go get this guy but my unit the Afghans had been um basically they've been stood down right because of this this issue I mentioned earlier with seals and and there was a rift is what happened and it wasn't the Afghans'

• 27:29Speaker 06

  fault that was what I found out later on so anyways but nonetheless they were told to stand down for six months retrain this blah blah blah now we got this guy for you know shot down turbine three three right down like two kilometers away and I'm like man let me take the boys let's go get this guy this guy wasn't on the top of HVT list and he was right up there everybody wanted this guy and uh I remember I was told no because the guys aren't uh they're not operational and I go the hell they're not operational I'm running these guys and I'm telling you they're operational this is easy roll on a roll we get the guy we come back you know and they they just uh they just said no kept saying no and I'm like

• 28:07Speaker 06

  Look, you hired me as a contractor. All right, I got all these skills. I said, then I'll go. You pay me a lot of money. Let me just go. If I don't come back, I don't come back, you know, but at least send me, man. You know, I was mission oriented. These guys were risk averse and it got that way, you know, as you know, later on in the war, you know, everybody became risk averse. Nobody was interested in winning the war. It just became, uh, you know, it became.

• 28:36Speaker 05

  Check the block.

• 28:37Speaker 06

  Check the block, right? So I remember some of the camps I'm at, we've got literally, we've got these, these case officers, these logistics officers, you know, from Paris embassy, from Europe, and we call them combat tourists, as you know, right? They're there checking the block, you know, I was in combat, when they never left the damn wire and they didn't even have a damn firearm on them, you know, um, it just turned into a total bullshit. Um, that war should have been over a long time ago, but it just turned into a self looking ice cream for a lot of people, you know, and sadly, it is what it is, but that's why I left in 2011. I just had enough. And I thought, Jesus Christ, you know, I'm gonna get killed for what? For nothing. And I was right. I was right. Look what happened, man.

• 29:20Speaker 06

  Look what happened. All these men are dead. Women are dead for nothing. Nothing happened, you know, nothing. We killed UBL a long time ago. Why were we still there then? You know, it's all bullshit.

• 29:32Speaker 05

  Dale, uh, you said you left in 2011 from, uh, as far as contracting for our government. Um, you kind of thought you were gonna, I mean, you did go into television a little bit. You started making some inroads on Hollywood. You thought kind of like your soldiering days were behind you from some of the things you've said. Um, but then, uh, in the sequence of events, I mean, what, what was it? The Hong Kong gig that came first?

• 30:00Speaker 06

  So, yeah, so what happened was I literally got discovered by Discovery Channel, right? It was kinda weird. And, uh, and so they, you know, they said, you know, we'd like for you to try out. It was a TV show called One Man Army. And I thought, well, could that be kinda cool? Do that, be kinda like closing the chapter to my military, paramilitary career, you know? And I thought it'd be kind of a cool way to go out, do a little TV show. And so I did, and I got selected. And, uh, and so I did, I guess I did pretty well on that show. And then I got a call about six months later from NBC, said, hey, we liked what we saw on Discovery, would you be interested in trying out for this TV show? Which was Stars in Stripes.

• 30:41Speaker 06

  Um, as I understand it, there were about 10,000 applicants, uh, that, that tried out for that show. Um, I was one of eight, along with Chris Kyle and a couple of other guys on the show to actually get selected. It was a pretty long process. It was, uh, a lot of interviews. I'd actually fly out to Universal Studios and do an onsite interview in front of the cameras, you know? Again, I did pretty well. Um, and so I got selected, and there I was. Now I'm doing, I'm doing the Hollywood thing. And then that turned into, um, other people started noticing me, wanted to meet with me. Um, in fact, I went out with, uh, so I became really good friends with Terry Crews, still end of this day.

• 31:22Speaker 06

  And, uh, Eva Torres, the WWE wrestler, she invited me to come out with, uh, to an event. So I went out there, while I was out there, I got approached by some people that knew of me, um, actually one was a former student of mine, and said, we'd like to talk to you. And so, okay, we do. And it's a production company, they're, they're pretty, uh, right wing, out of Dallas. And I said, we need a poster boy, we wanna make a, a, uh, conservative production company. We wanna invite veterans to come out and participate in Hollywood events, things like that. We wanna be more, we wanna do more right-leaning stuff than left-leaning stuff. And we need IU, the poster boy.

• 32:02Speaker 06

  So, I was all in, and, uh, started networking, going to a lot of, uh, producers, you know? I just started getting around in Hollywood is what was happening. And they were trying to pitch some TV shows for me. I ended up on a few shows. Um, you know, so this whole thing was starting to get some, grow some legs. And- Couple of years out into it, there's some other weird stuff that happened. I'm not, yeah, I shouldn't share it today, but there was some other really weird stuff started happening, right? Little did I know that not only am I a poster boy, but I'm actually a prop for a bigger, for government agencies, let's put it that way. So there's a very huge Chinese and Russian presence in Hollywood. They own everything. So I'll let you put it all together. Next thing

• 32:47Speaker 06

  I know, I'm like, why are you guys giving me all this cash and I'm not signing for anything? You know, and, and on a regular basis. And what am I doing here again? You know, just do your thing. You know, be, be the Hollywood guy, you know, networking. And I, okay. And I didn't ask you any questions. Um, but it got really weird, really weird after a while. And then, um, then I realized, holy shit, man. Um, I'm in another spy versus spy fucking movie and don't even know it yet. And so, um, so anyways, after a couple of years, um, I was asked to move to Hollywood to live out there. I was told I could be the next Danny Trejo. I could be on all kinds of TV shows. And I had to do a little thinking, man. I was like, man, is this who I really am? Is this me?

• 33:32Speaker 06

  You know, because I don't like these people, man, for the most part, you know, they're, they're a different culture, different mindset. Um, you know, I'm used to actually being an action guy and not pretending to be an action guy, you know? And so, so that kind of ended up, I ended up moving to Hong Kong. Um, and I was working over there running a security detail for a multi-billionaire investment banker, which is okay. It's kind of cool. I was living downtown Wan Chai, Hong Kong.

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• 37:04Speaker 05

  All right, so Dale, back to you. You were working for an investment banker in Hong Kong? That was the deal?

• 37:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, so I was protecting, I was running a security detail. I was one of the guys running the security detail. So, you know, I ended up falling into that. A couple of things happened that prompted me, besides the Hollywood thing, not, you know, I wasn't interested, started losing interest in it. The other thing that happened was I sold another one of my companies. So I've owned several companies. I've sold them to G4S, Wackenhut. I sold this other company in 2011 to another company. I was running this company out of my office at home for about two years, making a real $23,000 a month just sitting in my office. And anyways, that went south. It didn't go south because I was sitting in my office. It went south

• 37:51Speaker 06

  because the investors were doing their job. But nonetheless, I decided to pull a pitch and get out of there. Ended up in Hong Kong. And then that's actually where I met my wife. She's Indonesian and she went back to Indonesia. I went back to the States and then eventually I went to Indonesia, you know, chasing drawers. That's what we do, right? And so, so I went over there to meet her and, and started looking around and started realizing there's business opportunities. So I'm actually talking to you right now from Bali. That's where my office is, in Bali, Indonesia. But we decided, you know, hey, there's some business opportunities here relative to security, canines, blah, blah, blah. And my wife has started our business here and we've been in Bali. I've lived in Indonesia now almost seven years, I think,

• 38:36Speaker 06

  and I've been in Bali over four and a half years. And we're running explosive Patrol attack dogs, narcotic protector dogs for like all the Marriott properties and the local venues here. So it's a pretty cool gig. Um, you know, I get to, I get to play with my dogs and make money off of them too, you know? And, uh, you know, we did really well here right up until COVID, you know, took our legs out from under us like everybody else. Um, wasn't really COVID. It was all the freaking crooks that capitalized on it, but nonetheless, uh, we're back and we're back in business. And, uh, just signed another contract, signed two contracts. So, um, you know, we're back in business here.

• 39:17Speaker 06

  So that's why, that's how I ended up in Bali. Um, I live here. I have a home in Florida as well. I also actually have another home in, in the Philippines. Um, but, uh, so I kind of like live out of a suitcase. So with all that said, you would think that, okay, after the Holly, you know, the Hong Kong deal, that was kind of a cool gig. Um, kind of, um, everybody thinks that being a, a bodyguard is like really, uh, you know, really cool. I gotta tell you, man, it sucks. All right. Uh, one hand, you know, living in Hong Kong, that was the cool part, living in Hong Kong. Okay. One of my favorite cities until the Chinese took back over. Uh, but it's a really cool place. But, uh, be it the work of a bodyguard is, it sucks and I keep saying that, but it actually sucks.

• 40:03Speaker 06

  It's a good job for, it's a good job for younger guys. Um, you know, but it, you know, for guys like me, it's like insulting in a lot of ways, you know? I, so the pay was okay. Actually the, the pay's been really well. I got paid very well. Um, and I'll share the story with you about LA here in a minute, but going back to the Hong Kong deal. So here I am in best, um, you know, for providing security for this really wealthy Chinese guy in his mid fifties, late fifties. Married to a thirty-two-year-old Mexican model, um, big old boobs on her, you know, good looking. Um, beautiful on the inside, but the ugliest person you'll ever meet on the inside. Oh my God, man. She was horrible, man. Um, and, uh.

• 40:47Speaker 06

  You know, we all know what that was about, but anyways, it was a difficult job in that, you know, dealing with the client, um, they're just, rich people suck, okay? That's another thing, rich people suck. And, uh, you know, there's a reason they're rich and it's because they're really good at walking over a lot of other people, man, to get there. And, and that's a fact. I've got a lot of rich business partners, rich friends, rich clients. I got one guy, he's a billionaire, owes me four hundred fifty thousand dollars. Um, yeah, and he's a billionaire and he screwed me out of four hundred fifty thousand dollars, man. So, um, it kind of left a bad taste in my mouth, these people. And, and the lesson learned out of that is be your own boss, be your own success story. Don't count on none of these other people, man, because everybody will take from you.

• 41:30Speaker 06

  So I said earlier before the interview, you know, how mean and vile and nasty people really are? I got some, I got another story on that one, too. So anyways, um, I did this for a while. Um, you know, like I said, it's a, it's kind of a thankless job. You get paid, but you're treated like shit, you know? Um, here I am, a guy with a PhD, you know, and I got, I got another friend of mine, ready for this? He's a SEAL commander lawyer for Blackwater and he's a bodyguard with me. And we got this thirty-two-year-old client, you know, with one fucking live brain cell talking down to us like we're little freaking kids, like, what the hell? You know, so that's what I mean by that. But, uh, so I ended up doing all that and then other things started happening.

• 42:13Speaker 06

  Um, I had an opportunity to go to Yemen. Um, we've, you know, we've kind of talked about that in another episode, but basically while I was here, um, so the same company I was working for in Hong Kong, they're friends of mine. Um, I worked for them in South Africa, Mexico, you know, I did a lot of stuff for them, contracting as a consultant, security consultant, bodyguard, et cetera. So, so here's the story, so I'll go right in this one. This was kind of cool. Um, so one night I'm in South Africa, sitting around the pool with a guy, um, the owner, his name, we'll call him AG. And, uh, AG's a pretty freaking hardcore, no shit kind of guy, man. Um, he either likes you or he don't.

• 42:58Speaker 06

  If he don't like you, he'll let you know about it, too. Um, and so luckily I was, you know, I was good friends with this guy and, and got along just fine with him. So we're in South Africa, sitting around the pool one night. And he's like, Dale, he goes, um, he goes, how come you do all these other things? You know, why don't you just focus on security? And, you know, you could be really good at that and make a lot of money, you know? Why do you do this and do that? Because at the time I was like teaching as a professor for Henley Putnam University. I'm a journeyman. I just travel around doing weird jobs, right? Like going to Singapore and trading dogs. And I told him, I said, well, you know, I said, you know, I said, I said, I got a lot of ex-wives out there need to get paid, you know?

• 43:40Speaker 06

  Fucking parasites, man, you know? I've got to pay them off all the time, you know? I got a lot of kids and shit, you know? And so I said, I go where the work is. I make my money. I said, I'm pretty happy because I get to travel. I get to do different things. I wear a different hat every day. And so it's not so bad. And he looks at me, he goes, man, he goes, what if I gave you $50,000 cash? He goes, would that help you? And I thought about it, yeah, of course it would help me, but I'm not taking it. And, uh, he wanted to give me $50,000 cash because he thought it would relieve some pressure, right? And so that I could focus on just, you know, security, for example.

• 44:15Speaker 06

  And I said, no, I said, you know what? I can't accept your money. I said, I don't take money. I don't earn. And so we kind of got in an argument over the swimming pool, around the swimming pool. And he's like, well, he goes, tell me, Dale, he goes, you've done so much in your life. What's next? What are you going to do next? And I looked at him, I go, I want to be like you. He looks at me like, I go, what? And I go, yeah, I want to be like you. I want to be some rich guy sitting around a fucking pool asking people what they're going to do with their lives, you know, and giving them $50,000. So, you know, so we ended up parting ways that night, went to our rooms. And the next morning, his partner calls me to the office and, uh, he goes, hey, AG left this morning, went back home, but, you know, he just put, um, $50,000 in your bank account.

• 44:59Speaker 06

  And I was like, what the hell, man? And so he goes, you can't give it back. We're not taking it back. We don't want it back. He goes, listen, he goes, other people have helped us. Other veterans have come up and helped us when we needed it. And he goes, we want to do the same thing, you know? And, uh, I said, well, I appreciate all that, but I said, I don't work for free. So I said, count this as paying, you've paid this forward. So next time you have a project, I said, you call me, I'll drop what I'm doing. I'll come here, wherever, and go to work for you, right? You get your money back. So that wasn't even enough, man. Then he put me on a $7,000 a month retainer for next six months. Like, damn. So I'm making, I'm doing all right. And, um,

• 45:40Speaker 06

  And so then I leave and I end up going back to Indonesia, start my security business here. Um, my wife and I are not married yet, but uh, we start this enterprise. And then one day I fly it back to the U S and I get a text message from A G. He goes, hey, man, I need to talk to you about some security related stuff. This was over a year later, a year and a half later, and I thought, man, you know, I'm got my own security business, this is conflict of interest. I really wasn't interested at this point. I was excited about starting my own company here. So I get to the States, he texts me again, goes, I really, really need to talk to you, but I can't talk to you over the phone. And I'm like, I don't know, you know, A G S, you know, I'm him and a ha, and he goes, okay, listen. He goes, I'm gonna buy your plane ticket to San Diego. He goes, when you get here, I'm gonna pay you $6,000 for three hours of your time. I gotta, you gotta listen to me.

• 46:24Speaker 06

  Ah shit, okay. It must be important. So I fly out there. He's leaning up against this badass fricking Porsche at the airport. I show up, he hands me an envelope with $6,000 cash. He's, get in bitch. And we take off, right? And uh, we end up in his neighborhood, which was pretty amazing. Uh, I mean, he literally, he lived next door to Bill Gates and a whole bunch of other people. I, holy shit, this guy's rolling in dough. And he was, um, so that evening we had a, you know, we sat down, we had dinner and he and his partner told me what the plan was, right? And so basically it was, they had a contract with the Emiratis and uh,

• 47:05Speaker 06

  basically to take out their H V Ts, right? They needed a special force capability, didn't have it. Um, A G promised them that we could deliver this and so, you know, I'm, okay, yeah, Roger that. Sounds like a good idea, pretty cool, but you know, I'm going back to Indonesia in three days and uh, I really didn't want to go. And so he already threw $40,000 cash on the table in front of me. He goes, that's yours. Right? And I'm like, look dude, I go, I tell you what, I said, you do the first one. I said, I'll come in for the follow on evolutions. I just gotta go home, you know, see my, my girl and kinda, you know, I'm not, I wasn't ready for this shit, you know? And he goes, no, if I don't, if I can't have you for the first one, I don't need you for the other ones. And so. I'm like, damn.

• 47:50Speaker 06

  Okay. I said, all right. Okay, okay, I'm in. Right? So I fly home. I said, I gotta go to Indonesia first, though. So I literally, the next morning, I fly to Indonesia. I see my wife, my girl. I lie to her. I said, look, I'm gonna go to the Middle East. I'm doing some consulting, you know, security consulting work, you know, make a little bit of money. Be right back. No danger, problem. Be right back. Oh, okay. So they tell me, don't bring any equipment. You don't need it. It's already provided for you. Right? Oh, okay. So I fly, I fly from Jakarta all the way to, uh, New York, LaGuardia. Um, I check into a hotel as I'm supposed to. I'm waiting around downstairs in the lounge area, restaurant area, having a beer.

• 48:34Speaker 06

  And I notice there's a bunch of French dudes walking around. They all look pretty fit, you know, but they're French. And so I get a little suspicious. And then I had to be up in a hotel room around ten thirty that night. We all had to meet there. Okay, we all were given instructions at this time, meet this room. So I show up in there and there's all these French dudes are standing there. There's eleven of us total.

• 48:56Speaker 06

  You know, AEG is partner of SEAL, um, me, and then, uh, the other, uh, the French, they're French foreign legionnaires is what they are. And so we're all standing, looking at each other like who's who. You know, like the movie Ronin. And then, uh, AEG is like, all right, guys, here's the play, here's the mission, here's the plan. He goes, this is what we're gonna go do. He goes, if you're not interested, he goes, you can keep the twenty thousand dollars I gave you and just leave right now and no questions asked. Go back home. I'm like, fuck, man. So everybody got twenty, twenty grand, except for me, I had forty grand. I had to tell nobody. Well, there was a reason I got forty grand and I was about to find that out in a second. So nobody quit. He goes, okay, good. He goes, welcome aboard. He goes, so, and then he points at me. And he tells everybody in the room, he goes, that guy's in charge of everything. He's the boss. Whatever he says goes.

• 49:41Speaker 06

  You do what he tells you do, everything.

• 49:44Speaker 06

  I'm like, what? Me? So, you know, I don't even know what the hell's going on here right now. And I'm in charge, right? All of a sudden, of everything and literally everything. And, uh, Alright, so the next day, um, we have to meet downstairs, uh, in the evening, we get on a bus, um, a bunch of vans, and we go to Teterboro, uh, it's a private airport, uh, airport up there. And, uh, he tells us to make sure we're wearing all our tactical gear, our uniforms. That's kinda weird, it's a business fucking airport, everybody's wearing suits and we show up wearing camouflage Right. and beards and shit, right? But he had a reason for it, okay? He had a reason for it. And the reason was, he knew people were watching us. People very high up were watching us, okay?

• 50:28Speaker 06

  And so, he wasn't, he didn't wanna hide anything. He didn't wanna give the illusion that we're not up to something. He wanted to make it really clear that, yeah, we're doing this, and I'm not gonna hide it. So, we show up the airport, that night, a G5 shows up, we load it with food and water, our gear, no weapons. Uh, and we take off, and we fly. I think we did our first fuel stop, uh, in Hungary. And, uh, and then we continued on, and so the pilots and the flight attendants, they had no idea where we're going, right? They got their initial grid coordinates, and then in flight, from Hungary, we gave them a change of, uh, changed the flight plan on them. Said, okay, this is your coordinates, this is where you put the airplane down.

• 51:10Speaker 06

  Which was in the desert, on a dirt airstrip, completely remote, not even on a map. Like, there, right here's an airstrip on this grid, can I just put your airplane there? And I, what? He said, just do it. Yes, sir, be back. They didn't even question it, man. So, they're like, whatever you guys want, man, you know, uh, we're doing it. So, we end up landing in the middle of an airfield. There was, if you wanna call, it was just a strip, just a dirt strip. There was nothing there, nothing. Um, except one C-130 sitting there, uh, with the ramp down, engines running, that was the only thing that was sitting there. So, we land in G5, we unload our shit, we walk over to the, to the ramp, there's a colonel waiting for us, it's an intel, uh, officer, um... And the Emirati military? Yeah, Emirati, right?

• 51:54Speaker 06

  So he's checking the block as we're getting on, you know, we're loading all our shit in the back and then uh we take off and we fly about another four hours to uh Djibouti. We land, get off and there's a CH forty seven and two H six helicopters sitting there, engines running, waiting for us. So we transload into those things, take off, fly about another hour, we end up in Aiden, uh at one of their fobs out there. And so we, you know, at this, at this point, it's like two o'clock in the morning, uh two AM and uh I asked the intel officer, I go, hey, uh, where's all our gear, all the weapons, all the shit that's supposed to be waiting for us? Cause oh, it's on the way. And so they had set up a couple of GP mediums uh uh in a contolment area within the fob. Nobody knew we were there.

• 52:38Speaker 06

  They intentionally tried to make sure we were hidden, you know? And so he said, be here shortly, right? So this shows up, all these pickup trucks full of garbage, literally fucking garbage, you know? Like pieces and parts of weapon systems, um, just shit, man. I mean, like, what the hell? And so they're unloading all this crap, you know? And uh we got DSHK with no fu- no tripods, we've got, you know? We've got no magazines with AK forty sevens, we got no links for the PKMs, you know? And oh, by the way, we're supposed to be getting all US built equipment, brand new. And they're giving us this thirty year old Chicom rusty bullshit, right? And uh, and I'm, I'm, I'm inventorying it and I'm looking at it and I realize

• 53:21Speaker 06

  ain't nothing we can do with this, nothing functional, nothing's operational. So I walk up to him, to the colonel, I go, hey, sir. I said, this ain't gonna work. I said, we're missing everything, right? We're missing all the pieces and parts. And he didn't, he hated the fact that we were coming in to fight his war. He hated the fact that they didn't have the capability, right? He, he despised us. And I said, sir, I said, well, this is not, you know, this is not gonna get it. And he looks at me with his hands on his hips, he goes, so what you're telling me is you can't do the mission.

• 53:52Speaker 06

  I'm like, no, I didn't say I couldn't do the mission. I killed the guys with a damn spoon, but I can do the mission. I would really like to have some weapons though, you know, where I can shoot from a distance, you know? And, uh, and so I gave him a little, you know, piece of my mind. I confronted him and, and he's like, okay, okay. I said, by the way, where's all my American weapons at that we're supposed to get? Right? I know what he did. He took that money and put it in his freaking pockets.

• 54:14Speaker 05

  Right, right.

• 54:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, that's what he did, right, little son of a bitch? Um, and he went down to the local bazaar and bought us all this crap, right? And so anyways, I kind of gave him the stink eye. He got the message. He came and I gave him the shortage list. He came back with, uh, the pieces and parts we were missing. And basically we were just cobbling weapons together and, you know, improvising, everything. There were no uniforms, um, nothing, man. So I'm, I'm literally got, you know, a pair of five elevens on, some desert boots. Um, I had on a, a, a tank top for the gym. I actually had weight training gloves. Those are my tactical gloves, you know? I was, we were making it up as we go, man. We're literally like making our own freaking, you know, vests and stuff, ramble and stuff,

• 54:58Speaker 06

  you know, knitting and shit, you know? It's like, are you kidding me? So we literally improvised everything we had to go do these operations, um, because we got no tactical gear. They, they just, they didn't give it to us. And I think it was because he wanted us to fail, what it was.

• 55:14Speaker 05

  Right.

• 55:14Speaker 06

  But we were, we weren't having that. So, um, the next question was, okay, go ahead.

• 55:21Speaker 05

  How, how old were you at this point, Dale?

• 55:24Speaker 06

  So this was, uh, 2015, 2016. Um, so you basically, uh, what, six years ago? I'm 59, so I was about 53.

• 55:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yes. It's nice, it's, it's nice to know though, that a tiger doesn't change its stripes, Dale. I find, I find that comforting about you.

• 55:41Speaker 06

  No, man. Actually, I was leading the charge, man. I was as good a shape as anybody there or better. Um, you know, and there was a reason I was in charge because I, I learned that lesson later on too. It was like, okay, now I know why I'm here. But, uh, so anyways, uh, we got the target list. Um, it was long, over 40 people on the list, spread across three countries. Um. So we're going to do some globe trotting um to go take these guys out, but they were all HVTs. Uh. It was not a capture mission. It was a kill mission. That was it. Uh. These guys had to go. They're all bad guys. They're all terrorists. Um. They're all associated or affiliated with Al Qaeda, uh particularly Al Qaeda Arabic Peninsula, ACAP,

• 56:21Speaker 06

  uh the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, Houthis. Um. There are a lot of bad guys there and.

• 56:27Speaker 04

  Which which is which three countries?

• 56:31Speaker 06

  Uh. I can't say the other two countries. It's just say they were on the African continent.

• 56:36Speaker 04

  So so did we so because you're saying like um AQ Arab Peninsula, did the UAE, which is a fairly, I mean, in terms of Arabic countries, it's like a fairly liberal country. Um. Did did and I don't mean liberal politically. I just mean liberal in terms of of like religion, whatnot. Do do they have a different HVT set than say the United States does and that their concerns, even though these people are AQ or ISIS, but their concerns are different because these H uh high value targets, the HVTs are operating directly against like the Emirates and in places like that?

• 57:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, so exactly. They got their own their their target list maybe different from our target list, some of them, not all of them. Um. And they had their own agenda. In fact, the reason we got hired by the MOD, because he's the guy that hired us, um was actually a Palestinian and uh very prominent guy, not even Emirati, um but because of a friend of a friend of a friend, he got put into the MOD position. Um. And so there's a there's actually a very interesting story about this guy on there. His name is Mohammed Dahlin. Um. You can look him up on the internet. Uh. Very interesting guy, very cool guy, actually. Um. But very interesting and uh he was not what you would expect. Um. But um.

• 58:01Speaker 06

  So anyways, uh, you know, target list was long, spread over three countries. Uh, we needed to get this one. They wanted this one guy in particular, right off the bat. He's number, target number one. And we're like, okay, uh, what's the deal with this guy? And, you know, and they explained to us, you know, why he's a threat. Um, okay, he's a, he's a shady character. He's, he was actually from India. He was not Arabic. He was India, but he was Muslim and he was a pedophile. Um, and he's homosexual. He had all kinds of weird shit going on too, but he was very well trained in trade craft, in street craft. So he never put his head down in the same place twice. Um, he had his own security detail. Um, he was being financed.

• 58:43Speaker 06

  Um, as I understand it, by the Muslim Brotherhood and others. He was using Al Qaeda as an action arm. Um, just a lot of weird things going on, right? So supposedly this guy won the Nobel Prize, blah, blah, blah. It's all bullshit. Okay. Because one of the things I made sure of that I insisted on was any targets that we take out. We gotta, I gotta be convinced this guy's a bad guy and it's just not some little personal agenda, right? Right. This guy's gotta be a legit target. So we did our due diligence, you know, and we investigated closely. It's like, okay, this guy's, he's the real deal. Um, so we green lighted him. Um, but it was interesting was as we're going through this target list, we're, we're developing the first target.

• 59:27Speaker 06

  Took us a couple of weeks, which actually was pretty fast, considering we had no, uh, human, uh, human sources. We had nothing to work with. I mean, we're cleaning information off the internet. You know, we're bribing the Emiratis to give us some intel. They were trying to, what's the word I'm looking for? They were trying to remain hands off. They want to have plausible deniability. Compartmentalized, right? Yeah, right. And so we're like, hey dude, we're never gonna get this done if you're not helping us, you know? So they ended up getting us some sources. Um, you know, we ended up paying them a bunch of money, you know, makes a bunch of promises and stuff like that. But, uh, in this process, we realized on this list was a guy who was the, uh, the mastermind behind the USS Cole bombing.

• 1:00:08Speaker 06

  And he was running a madrassa in Aiden, and he was running a pipeline for ISIS fighters. This guy's a shithead still, and he was there. We're like, oh, oh, oh, we, we, this is, this is number one. We're going after that guy first. You know, and he's right down the road and, uh, he's really got no security. His house is across corners, catty quarter to his madrassa where he's running this pipeline, you know, for ISIS fighters and stuff. And so we really wanted that guy. Okay. He's the USS Cole bomb ma- you know, mastermind. We were told no, said no, no, you work for us. This is number one right here. This guy here, you guys can have him later on. Like, fuck, man. Uh, we really wanted this guy. He would have been an easy target too, but, uh, we didn't get, we didn't get the shot at him, uh, that we wanted.

• 1:00:53Speaker 06

  So, um, so long story short, my job was, um, besides, you know, the planning, execution. Um, I realized really quickly that the guys that were with me didn't know what the hell they were doing. So they had no idea about explosives. They didn't know how to use explosives. Um. In fact, I had to show, actually I had to show one of the guys was a SEAL, literally how to put an AK-47 in action. He had no idea how to load it and charge it. Like, fuck dude, you know, and so this was a SEAL too. Um, and, but he was a good guy. I'm not going to take nothing from him. He just didn't know what he was doing. But he turned out to be actually one of the better guys out of the bunch because his head was in the right place.

• 1:01:35Speaker 06

  Um, the other turd, the other SEAL was a total turd though, complete turd. Um, so now I'm training these guys on how to basically set headspace and timing on a 50 caliber machine gun, run PK and machine guns. You know, all the weapon systems we have. And then the mission came down. It's like, we might have to hit this guy on the way to the airport. There's only one flight a day leaving Aiden and, uh, and we had intel that this guy might try to get on that airplane on one of these particular days. And so what we were going to do is ambush him at the airport. Now, what was interesting is the Emirati military occupied the airport, but all the access roads, all the gates going into the airport were manned by Al Qaeda.

• 1:02:16Speaker 06

  Right, so they control the gates. And so we would literally have to drive to the gates, wave at Mr. Al Qaeda, you know, and then go inside into the compound. But he had one flight a day, and we thought this guy's gonna get on one of these flights. So we just started planning, okay, we gotta hit him. We picked out the checkpoint location where we're gonna smack him. They thought, well, what if he doesn't come this way? What if he goes that way? And then we thought, okay, let's ambush him in the vehicle. He's running a small motorcade, thin-skinned trucks. And the question was, can he ride a motorcycle? I'd be damned, I'm the only guy that can ride a motorcycle. I said, are you kidding me? I'm the only guy who can ride a goddamn motorcycle? So now, you know, I'm doing it all, man. I'm like, why are you guys even here? I said, I might as well just do everything, you know?

• 1:03:02Speaker 06

  I gotta ride the motorcycle, I gotta build the IEDs. You know, I got AG on the back of the motorcycle. He's gonna hang my IED off the mirror of this truck while we're driving, and then vaporize vehicle with the guy in it, right? So we got all these contingency plans. And I'm starting to realize really quickly that I'm the only guy who knows what the hell is going on. I'm the only guy who's got any tactical experience to execute this thing, you know? And going back to Discovery Channel, I guess I am a one-man army.

• 1:03:31Speaker 06

  So anyways, so we had all these contingency plans, man. And you know, we were gonna do all kinds of stuff, man. It kept changing every day because the guy never slept in the same place twice. So we had to keep adjusting the mission profile, right? Okay, now we're instead doing motorcycles, doing helicopters. Okay, we're not doing helicopters, now we're walking, you know? And so, so finally, we finally got some good intel one night, and we had about an hour and a half to spin up because the guy was staying downtown in an office, and he wasn't gonna come out. We had eyes on, he went watching the guy reporting back to us. We had a drone helicopter up, you know, video on the office. We know he was in there, he went in there with his bodyguards, and his assistant.

• 1:04:17Speaker 06

  And he hadn't come out, so we we were staged, already ready to go. And that's when we went in. And it was only, it was actually five of us that went in out of the team. And out of the five of us, one of them was an Arab. Um, he's a, he's one of their majors in the military. And he was just the driver. It's like, look, you just drive, you don't touch guns, don't play with the fucking radio, just drive. That's all you gotta do, right? And so, and and me and and A G, the two SEALs, were in the back of this up armored land cruiser. And the job was to literally pull up to the office. I was gonna get out, put I E D on the building and bring it down on top of this guy's head. And so that was the basic plan.

• 1:05:00Speaker 06

  And so we roll in, it's, I think it was about nine thirty at night, very dark, very dark. You had people on the streets drinking chai, you know, very narrow roads, very congested. And so we go rolling in at about three miles an hour. That was top speed, you know, I literally got, as the car comes to stop, I've got Al Qaeda looking in the window, trying to see who's inside the window. And I'm putting a muzzle in his face, getting ready to let the air out of him. And so finally, we get in front of the the office and like, go. Doors come open, the first guy shot is the driver, the only guy without a weapon. He gets shot in the fucking leg. Um, and then the rest of us bail out.

• 1:05:42Speaker 06

  I grab my charge and I run across the street, run in front of the office door. And I tried to open the door first, my gut, my, I was gonna try to open the door, throw a couple of hand grenades in there, and then just go in and shoot everybody. But they had locked the door from the inside because the bodyguards, usually they sat out on front. But at night, they would roll inside, they would lock the doors up and they would sit right behind the the doors, these big steel doors. So, uh, I couldn't get the door open, so I knew they were in there, they locked it. And so I thought, okay, the only other choice I have now is to place this IED that I built in front of the door. So the charge was, I filled an ammo can with C4 and I filled it up with armor plating from an MRAP. So I basically made it the mother of all claymores.

• 1:06:26Speaker 06

  And, you know, added some extra armor for the P factor. So I had a little nuclear weapon is what I had. It was all directional.

• 1:06:35Speaker 06

  And so I placed the charge, there's a raging gunfight going on right now. And I'm by myself. So for whatever reason, I don't know why, but AG ran up the fucking road like with his hair on fire and he's shooting it out with people up the street. And he's actually supposed to be with me at the door, pull the security for me because I got my hands full. And same thing with the other guy, the other SEAL. He doesn't follow me to the door either. He stays at the vehicle. His excuse was his weapon kept malfunctioning, but he had a spare right next to him. He didn't grab that one. So he didn't follow me over. So I'm basically out there by myself and wind flapping, you know? And anyways, I placed the charge.

• 1:07:18Speaker 06

  I could not run back to my exfil vehicle because, you know, the engagement was just too close down. I would have run right into an ambush. And so I decided, okay, I'm going to run up the street to another vehicle waiting down the road. And, but the vehicle that we infilled in was an up armored Land Cruiser, a $300,000 car. And so I had already placed an IED in the back of it, an incendiary device. I built it, put it back there. And what I was going to do is run it back to my original vehicle. I was going to stop, pull the firing system and we were going to destroy that Land Cruiser. I don't know why they wanted to destroy it, but they didn't want to bring it out the target. Our instructions were leave it there and destroy it.

• 1:08:00Speaker 06

  So that's what they want, that's what they get, that's what they're paying for. So anyways, I could not get to the charge. So the other SEAL, he knew that contingency plan was if I don't make it back, he was to run up and fire the system. And he did. And it's all on video. And the first charge goes off and just wrecks the building. Apparently vaporizes the bodyguards behind the doors. And then And then he pulls the other system and then it goes off and it literally blew that car up and literally burned it to the ground. I mean, there was nothing left of it. I was, I was actually in awe that it actually worked as well as it did because it was literally improvised explosive. I never built one like this before. Didn't know, I just kind of made it up as I went.

• 1:08:44Speaker 06

  It was kind of cool. I used, uh, right for this, I used Nest, I used Nest Cafe coffee grounds in a jar, uh, half a, half a liter, uh, half a bottle of gasoline and a quarter block of C4, cobble this fricking thing together, put it over the gas tank and I'll be damned if it works, man. It can burn that thing to a crispy critter. Uh, but, uh, so we get out, we get out of the mission and then, uh, and so all of us were given rank. So the question is, okay, you know, for everybody out there's listening, oh my God, being a mercenary is illegal. I've heard all the bullshit. All right, just shut up. All right, let me just explain what happened here. All right. First of all, it is not illegal to work as a mercenary. Okay. You go to state department

• 1:09:26Speaker 06

  website. You as an American citizen can work for foreign countries. Okay. A foreign government, as long as that government, they're

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• 1:10:49Speaker 06

  Our policies are in alignment with US policy, okay? The Emiratis are friends of Americans, okay? We're fighting the same global war on terrorism. Boom. All right, there it is. Two, you can join their military, and guess what? They assigned us ranks. They gave us all ranks. Guess who the leading, the ranking is current, the ranking is guy that was AG, made him a full bird colonel. He's in charge of the entire Arab Forward Operating Base. He's in charge of the Arabs, and he's just, and guess what? He's Jewish. Yeah, guy's Jewish. He's a Jewish Colonel in their military, giving them orders. So we get back to the, to the compound, and, uh, you know, fucking, you know, plugging holes and stuff, and, and AG comes back a few minutes later, he's got a thumb drive.

• 1:11:32Speaker 06

  He went to the drone pilot, he goes, "I'm the Colonel, give me a copy of that, that drone village." And he got it. And the reason he got it is for insurance. So it can never be said that we're out there as a bunch of renegades on our own. Right. You know, doing this kind of shit. "You got proof right here, it came out of your helicopter, you know, here's the, here's the footage, right?" So it was a smart move, man. Um, you know, like I said, it was insurance. Um, so then what happened is, basically, okay, we're not sure if we got the target or not, because the next day on the news, the local news, um, his assistant was all wrapped up, you know, and he's on the news going, "Hi, nanana boo boo, you didn't get us," you know, but he's all fucked up. And the other guys are vaporized, and so we don't know what happened to the principal. And

• 1:12:17Speaker 06

  we were told he did get away, and he went back to Saudi Arabia, which I kind of doubt that, because the Saudis wanted him dead too. So why would you come back to Saudi Arabia, right? Right. He basically dropped off the map. We're not sure what happened. Maybe he went into hiding, you know, maybe I scared the shit out of him, you know, and he decided he wants more part of it. I don't know. But, um... So we've, we go back to, uh, um, we end up in Abu Dhabi. We meet with the, the, um, the client. And, uh, basically we're doing AAR, after action reports, what happened, blah, blah, blah. And, uh, he was happy. And so the contract, if I remember right, the contract was worth eight hundred and eighty million dollars.

• 1:13:00Speaker 06

  Okay. The first mission was eight hundred thousand dollars. Okay. The first mission was a vetting mission. If we were successful, we would get the rest of the contract. And that's why it was important that I was on the first mission. Right. Because it had, we had had to go, right? I tell you right now. Had I not been there, they would have fucked up the charges. They didn't know how to build them. They wouldn't have been effective at all. They wouldn't have known how to use half the weapon system. You know, they would have had to go to the embryons, go, hey, can you show us how to, you know, work this gun? You know, that's what I'm paying you for. So none of that was gonna work. So that's why I realized, okay, there's my value. Right.

• 1:13:38Speaker 06

  That's why they had to have me, right? So, you know, we got, you know, awarded the rest of the contract and then, uh, and then we had, you know, the fall one, fall one missions after that. So. Um, anyways, that happened and then, uh, Bana ended up, uh, I ended up walking out of the desert, me and one of the SEALs had enough because the one SEAL that's in charge, I'm not even gonna mention his name. He's all fucked up. And, uh, AG had to go do something. I said, no, I ain't staying out here. This, this is bullshit. There was a lot of leadership issues. That, uh, there were, you know, there were very pronounced men that really wrecked the whole project. Um, poor leadership, zero leadership. And, uh,

• 1:14:19Speaker 06

  I give an example, one day, you know, so I'm getting paid all this money as a special advisor. And, uh, I noticed that, uh, one of the SEALs, the bosses is laying in the back of the pickup truck, sunbathing with no clothes on every day. And he's telling the guys to fetch his coffee and do this and do that, you know, and, uh, these are all grown men. Right? With families, they're soldiers, they're veterans. And he's telling them to go fetch coffee. And then I realized he's, he's actually, um, he's hiding cases of Red Bull in his hooch, fruit, all kinds of fresh stuff. He's had, he's hoarded for himself. Not even sharing it with the team.

• 1:14:51Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:14:51Speaker 06

  I found out about that one day because I had to go in to get something. I'm like, what the fuck? So I walked up to the truck one day while he's back there and I go, hey, man, I said, you guys are paying me a lot of money to be your special advisor. So I'm gonna go ahead and earn my money right now and give you some advice. And they're looking at me like, huh? I go, ready for this? Lead by example. And they're like, and I go, yeah, lead by example. So you think this is lead by example? This ain't leading shit. I said, all that red bull in your room, that's not leading by example. I said, these, these guys here. I said, they could give two shits about your bottom line. When we're out there in a firefight in the street. I said, nobody cares about your bottom line, your corporation. All they care about is getting back home. And they're gonna remember who took care of them and who didn't.

• 1:15:36Speaker 06

  I said, and right now, you making them fetch coffee while your son bathing and they're working their ass off, ain't holding no water. And you know what? He disagreed with me. He's, I gotta disagree. It is a business. You fucking moron. I said, you know what? When we get out there, I said, when the shit hits the fan and they gotta make a decision. Either save me or save you. Uh, bye bye you. Cause they're not saving your ass. I'm the guy taking care of them. I'm the guy running interference from constantly, you know? And, uh, and that's my job. I said, but you're paying the paycheck, man. I said, you need to do your part, you know? So there was stuff like that that was going on out there that just, I said, you know, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be a part of this no more.

• 1:16:16Speaker 06

  Um, and I actually left, ended up, uh, planes, trains and automobiles through Dubai, Abu Dhabi. I think I went back to the US. I finally went back to Indonesia or Indonesia, then the US camera. I was all over the day going place. But, uh, you know, I just decided that, uh, I'm done with that part of it.

• 1:16:32Speaker 04

  Dale, how many, of that list of forty names, like how many HVTs down did you get, uh, during that contract?

• 1:16:40Speaker 06

  Just a couple. Uh, what's kind of funny is we had one guy that was ISIS bomb maker, very prominent guy and, uh, He was definitely gonna get it, man, but we had it all lined up. I built this frickin' mega frickin' IED for him special. And, uh, and he was going out every day in the afternoon. We were watching with the drone in the afternoon. He would go out on the street and he had a couch on the street, right? And he would sit there and sell drugs, CAC, right? Guys would come by and he was a drug dealer too, on top of everything else. And then on the end of his, his compound, he had a garage called the monster garage. And he was building metal doors, but actually he was building IEDs in there. He had all kinds of sealant, sealant tanks and stuff like that.

• 1:17:25Speaker 06

  And so my job was gonna be to blow up this entire monster shop one night. And then we're gonna go up to his compound and shoot him in his frickin' face.

• 1:17:34Speaker 06

  Just as we're getting ready to do this, he went out to sell some drugs on the street. You know, guy drives by and he was with the Yemeni's resistance. And boom, kills him right there, man. Does a job for us like shit, you know? But it's probably a good thing because it would have been really hard to get in and get back out of there. They had that place locked down pretty good, uh, between ISIS and Al Qaeda and the Houthis. Um, he was pretty secure and we were definitely gonna be, you know, we were definitely gonna be hanging out there trying to get to him. But, uh, we made down a list a little bit and not very far. And before I walked away, I don't know what they did after that. Actually know that one of the guys, they ended up in Serbia. And one of the guys on the team got rolled up, ended up in jail for almost two years.

• 1:18:18Speaker 06

  Um, on weapons charges, they were, you know, kinda doing the same thing again as we're doing Yemen. I didn't have any part of that, uh, walked away. But, uh, um, he got out of jail because somebody murdered his, uh, his attorney at the doorstep of the courtyard. So they, they lost everything, the entire case against them. And, uh, he's actually a pretty famous SEAL. Um, I don't know, I'm not gonna say his name, but, uh, he's a pretty fa- he's a pretty famous SEAL. But, uh, he fucked up and, uh, he got, he got rolled up and he spent a couple of years in Serbia jail because of that. So anyways, um, yeah, going back to, so, you know, round and round and round, everything starts happening.

• 1:19:01Speaker 06

  I ended up from there in Los Angeles, um, running a, so I was protecting a multimillionaire as a starlet in Hollywood. So what happened was I was out on the TV show SWAT, right? And, uh, So I was invited to be on that show, so I'm out there on the set. I get a phone call from my friend, um, who's, you know, he's a pretty good guy, man. He's a country western singer. He's like, hey dude, he goes, I got a problem. He goes, I got a friend, she's in big trouble. Um, some guy stole over a million dollars worth of diamonds from her. They want to kill her because she wants to go to the police, this, that, that. She's very wealthy. She's thirty-one years old, um, beautiful, never been married, no kids. She's every man's dream, dude. I'm telling you right now, right? So, and, and I don't even know this.

• 1:19:46Speaker 06

  I don't know all this about her yet. I just know she's in trouble and I'm the only guy he'll recommend. And so apparently she already done the Google search and all this shit. He goes, call her and work out the, the price. So I call her up, go, hey you, this is me, what's going on? What do you need? Okay, here's my price. And my price was two thousand dollars a day plus pass costs. I say, you want me to protect you? Two grand plus pay for all my expenses. She's a bat an eye, like, really? And so I ki- I almost kind of said that because I really didn't want to do the job. Right. I know bodyguard work sucks. Right. So I figured if I'm gonna do it, it better be worth it, right? So I said, two grand. And then, and then she's like, okay, no problem. And I go, really?

• 1:20:31Speaker 06

  I said, well, I said, you know, um, I said, I'm on a Hollywood set, so I didn't bring any suits or clothes for this either, you know? Not really prepared for this. She goes, don't worry, you don't need any clothes. Oh, okay. Little did I know, she actually meant I didn't need any clothes. I just need to show up butt naked. She was good with that, right? So she, she apparently she's done all the Google search, watched all my movies ten times over, you know? I didn't know any of this, right? I'm like, okay, all right. And then she asked me what my clothes, so clothes size were, shoe size, I gave it to her. I end up flying to LA and so I had somebody else with me. I had a female with me that I had met, young girl. And, uh, I go, hey, by the way, I got a friend with me, you know? I said, you know, can I bring her with me?

• 1:21:14Speaker 06

  She's like, well, yeah, of course, you know, bring her with you. I go, really? I said, okay, cool. I can use it for like counter surveillance, surveillance type of stuff, right?

• 1:21:22Speaker 06

  You, you can't make this shit up. So I show up and at the airport, she's got a limousine waiting for us. Um, we go to her, uh, where she lived. Very upscale, um, the apartments in this particular building she was living in, uh, the low end was fifteen thousand dollars a month, the high end was seventy thousand dollars a month. Um, it was all the rich and famous people living there, right? So, we show up, she's waiting for me, all giddy and everything, and then, uh, and so, you know, we get settled in. I, I got my own apartment. She gives me apartment for fifteen thousand dollars a month, fully stocked with everything. Not only that, she bought all my clothes for me, I didn't know that. All my Under Armour, everything's laid out for me, you know? Slippers and hiking shoes and T-shirt.

• 1:22:07Speaker 06

  I'm like, damn, man, you know? And, uh, and so, I said, okay. So I told the gal I was with, I said, listen, I'm gonna be really busy for a while. I said, so, you know, she was actually, she was from, not from the United States. And I said, look, I said, since you're here, enjoy the vacation. Go hang out in Hollywood, just see the sights, you know, don't mind me, I'm doing my thing. And, uh, so she was good. And so, I end up, you know, telling the client, so listen, all right, I'm here to protect you. I'm gonna go over some security stuff, protocols, do's and don'ts, patterns of life, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, we're even do some defensive tactics, you know? And, uh, so it goes pretty good, right? And little do I know, she's like falling in love with me.

• 1:22:52Speaker 06

  I didn't know that. And, uh, and so, it got kinda started getting really weird. Like, we would go out for dinner every night, and she would spend fifteen hundred dollars every night on dinner. Um, she ordered everything on the menu, time stand. She's like, whatever you want, time stand, you know? I'm like, what? And then, I'd be like, no, I'm gonna go stand over here by the door and pull security. She goes, oh, no, you're not, you're gonna sit right here next to me. I said, yes, ma'am, you're paying the bills. Right? So it was, it turned into that. And, uh, and then it turned into like her sitting on my lap. It got really unprofessional after a while. And I'm trying to keep my professional distance. But she's making it really, really, really, really hard, man, you know?

• 1:23:36Speaker 06

  And so then I meet all her friends that live in this building. They're all billionaires. Um, they're just, they're just hardcore liberals, right? So every day, she never worked. She owned a company. Now and then we would drive to the company, you know, and she'd check on things. Okay. And then we'd go back to her, to where she stayed. But everybody would hang out on the bottom floor, had the swimming pool, the bar, and it's the lounge area. And that's where we hung out every day, all day long for months. And, uh, she would order tons of food and pizza and this and that. And all those, uh, guests, the residents would come down and we'd all be talking and, no, they would be talking. I couldn't stand these assholes, right? They're, you know, it was always a Trump bashing session, right?

• 1:24:20Speaker 06

  It was always a Trump bashing session. I'm like, get the hell out of here. And then they're like, you mean, you were in the army? You were a veteran? Yeah. That's what they look like? Wow. You know, it's like, I'm like a puppy. Like, what? That's what veterans look like? Could have never met one before, right? And then they, then they want to ask me some questions about the military and I'd start to answer them and then it just cut me off. And then they start talking about, there's only four things they could talk about. Wine, uh, hotels, uh, food and other women's dress, how they dress. That was it. That was the four topics. That's all these people can talk about because that's all they know. Well, Dale, if, if any of your attractive billionaire female friends are interested in a veteran male concubine,

• 1:25:03Speaker 06

  you feel free to pass them my digits. I mean, I'm here and I'm ready to work. I'm ready to work.

• 1:25:08Speaker 04

  Well, and, and he, he lives in Brooklyn and he went to Columbia. So he can like, he can like fit into that, that sort of liberal. I, I, I got a foot in both worlds, man. I can do it.

• 1:25:20Speaker 06

  Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what, man, it was, uh, it was really frustrating because, um, they couldn't talk about anything else because they didn't know anything else. I was literally like the first veteran I ever met. I might as well have been a puppy, you know, like, wow, is that cute? Look, that's what they look like, you know? And, uh, and I was like, what the fuck, man? So, and, uh, and I was like, what the fuck, man? So, um, you know, and I, and I would tell my client, You know, like, look, you know, she would ask me a question in front of everybody and I said, "Look, I don't talk politics, I'm not talking religion." "Oh, no, no, it's okay, it's okay." And I remember they asked me this question one time about homosexuals in the military. And I had an experience back in eighty second, when I first went into nineteen eighty-two, with a gay guy, that was literally, everybody got drunk one night, he went into this one dude's

• 1:26:04Speaker 06

  room and gave him a blowjob while he was sleeping, the guy wakes up, loses his shit, you know, and, and, uh, we ended up with a big battalion, you know, hand-to-hand combat session, everybody was fighting because we were the recon guys, and they were, you know, now we're the gay recon guys, and, you know, it just got really crazy, right? And so, I'm starting to explain to her what the problem was, you know, with, you know, with homosexuals, especially in the rank of infantry guys, when something like this happens. And, uh, and I told her how we were literally combat effective, ineffective for over a month. And people were getting Article fifteen, all because of one guy. He literally pulls this guy's underwear down while he's sleeping, he's drunk, and he wakes up and he's getting a blowjob from this guy.

• 1:26:45Speaker 06

  Um, and so, they were like, "Oh, the, the, everybody sitting there going, 'Oh, oh my God, that's so uncomfortable, I, I gotta, I gotta go.'" I go, "Yeah, you gotta go, because you don't wanna hear the damn truth, you know?" It was always that kind of stuff, you know, and these people just started making me sick. And then I kept asking my client, I go, "Listen, how much longer do you need me for?" Because, you know, we was tracking down the jewelry, she was in, there was some gangs in and out of Chicago that were involved in this. Um, there's, it, it's gonna be, when I write this story, it's pretty interesting who the characters were, some of them were very famous, like, damn. Uh, one of them was a billionaire, a British guy from London, he was a billionaire, he sat on a bunch of boards, uh, he was actually banging this hooker, this black chick, a hi-

• 1:27:27Speaker 06

  high-end call girl, she, she ended up working her way into this building, passing the background checks, um, and ended up stealing all my client's jewelry, on, based on a, on a lie, which was tied to this billionaire. Basically, I, I go from being a bodyguard to the fixer now, to the investigator, you know, so I'm now sitting, you know, I'm calling this guy up, go, "Hey, I need you to meet me at Starbucks tomorrow morning at zero seven, you know, across town, LA." Me and and I'm waiting for the guy and and I'm playing, you know, much Jeff with them. And I'm like, hey, listen, my client's really, really angry. Um, we know that, you know, your girlfriend. No, no, it's not my girl. Yeah, you were banging her. So it doesn't matter. She's your girlfriend. She used your name, stole all his jewelry.

• 1:28:09Speaker 06

  And my client's getting mad because she can't get it back. The police won't help her. So she's gonna go to LA Times. And tell the story, which is gonna include your name, right? And you're sitting on this big ass board. Right? Because I already know this from talking to some other very wealthy people. I said, this ain't gonna go well for you, you know? And he was really uncomfortable. I said, now, if I was you. What I would do is I would probably just give her the money and sign a non-disclosure agreement and be done with this bullshit. Because you're married, you had two kids in in the England. And I had a really freaking squirm in his seat, you know? And so. He agreed. He's like, no, you know what? You're right. You're right. You're right. Let me talk to my lawyer. I go, that's the smart thing to do, sir. So he leaves. By the time I get back to my client's apartment, um.

• 1:28:51Speaker 06

  He already talked to his lawyer, who talked to her lawyer. Basically, they painted this picture that I was a thug, right? You say you're a thug, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I go, good, that's exactly what I wanted to think. I'm a thug, right? So it actually worked, right? And so they wanted to settle for two hundred fifty thousand dollars. And I knew she was not gonna go for that. And she's like, no, not no, but hell no. I said. You probably ought to take the two fifty because you're not gonna get the million. I said, this guy's gonna jump on the next thing's smoke and he's gonna be gone. You're not gonna get him. The billionaire. He didn't even steal it, but I said, you you've lost all your ability to leverage all this shit, you know? And uh, she was stubborn, right? So. She was worth millions and millions and millions of dollars, but this jewelry she had on. She was wearing it for a jeweler.

• 1:29:36Speaker 06

  Basically, advertising. Right. Anytime the jewelry leaves the jewelry store, it's no longer insured off the property. So it was stolen off the property. So guess who's liable? Right. Client. She's gotta shit a million dollars for diamonds. Right. So that was the problem. She didn't want it, you know? And then there's all this other stuff was involved, the trust fund and her family and. And how that's gonna bode and this and that, you know? And so, um. So finally, you know, we get, we get through most of all of this, right? I realized nothing's gonna happen. There was more, it had to do with Floyd Mayweather, had to do with Las Vegas fights, and all kinds of crazy stuff happened there. This girl shows up in Las Vegas, wearing all the diamonds. On top of that, I've got the FBI engaged, the CIA.

• 1:30:19Speaker 06

  I got, I got everybody, the marshals from California to Chicago to Las Vegas engaged to run this chick down, man. And she was really cagey, man, really good, and, and beating, beating the system, man. All the traps that I laid for, she circumvented them, got away from it all. But, uh, finally, I just told the client, I said, "Listen, man, how much longer you need me for, you know?" And she goes, "I need you forever." I go, "Ha, ha, ha, ha, no, really, how long you need me?" She said, "No, I, I need you forever." And I realized, "Ah, shit." You know, this is, this is happening, man. And they got really pizarro, you know? "Hey, I need you up in my room at two o'clock tomorrow, I need to talk to you about something." "Yes, ma'am, on the way." "Where you at?" "I'm right here in the bed, no clothes on." "I need you to sit right here, I gotta talk to you about something." I'm like, "Oh, God, no."

• 1:31:01Speaker 06

  You know, this is not, you know, I'm thinking I'm not gonna get paid if I keep doing this, you know? Right. Finally, finally, one day, I just said, "Listen, I gotta go." I said, "I gotta move on." I said, "She wanted to get married, she fell in love with me. I'll be honest with you, any other guy, you know, would have been a millionaire overnight." And she was really attractive, um, beautiful, man, very smart, very personable. She had everything going for her, everything, man. And, uh, I guess with maturity and with age, you know, you get a little bit smarter, and you start thinking with this head and not the other head. And I realized that, you know, um, you know, I got other things I wanna do with my life, and I don't wanna mooch off of anybody else. I don't want her money, I don't wanna be around her friends. I told her, I said, "Three months, we'll kill each other." I said, "That's just how it is."

• 1:31:46Speaker 06

  I said, "It's all cool now, but three months, I said, 'You won't stand me, I won't stand you, um, 'cause of your friends.'" I said, "So I'm gonna leave tomorrow morning." And so, in the morning, I show up to her apartment and say goodbye. She got the limo waiting for me, and she begs me one more time. She goes, "Please, go with me to, uh, she wanted me to go to, um, uh..." God damn it, this is a resort out in the, out in the desert. She goes, go with me, stay with, stay with me for the day and for the night. Tomorrow I'll put you on a private jet and fly home and, you know, end of story. And I'm like, for what? I said, we're gonna go there and we're gonna do it like rabbits. And I said, tomorrow morning, I'm still getting on the airplane. Nothing's gonna change, you know? And, and I did, I walked away right there and I never looked back.

• 1:32:29Speaker 06

  Um, and I, I have no regrets, you know, whatsoever. But I gotta tell you, any other guy would have jumped all over it. And maybe 10 years ago or 15 years ago, I'd have jumped all over it too. Different circumstances, but, uh, you know, sometimes you realize what's more important in life. And it's not always money, it's not other people's money. It's not even a beautiful woman sometimes, you know, your own sovereignty, man, your own, you know, you that is all that matters, your happiness, you know, and how you achieve that is your, you know, up to you.

• 1:33:03Speaker 04

  Dale, I think what you're telling us is that you will never take the easy way regardless of, uh, like, you know.

• 1:33:10Speaker 06

  I could have and I didn't, I could have and I didn't, man. Oh yeah, yeah, and she, you know what she gave me? So she's like, look, she goes, I need you here for another 30 days. Here's my BMW 750Li. She gives me a brand new BMW 750Li. And she turns around, buys a black one, she gives me the white one. She knows I like them, you know? She goes, this is yours. And I'm like, oh my God, man. So she just gives me this brand new BMW 750Li. She's throwing it all at me, you know, $1,500 dinner every night, you know, $15,000, you know, apartment, um, you know, it was amazing. I'll say this, she was a good girl, um, you know, she just got caught up in something.

• 1:33:51Speaker 06

  You know, she's lived her whole life, a life of, you know, the rich and famous.

• 1:33:56Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 1:33:57Speaker 06

  So she hasn't been exposed to street thugs, you know, she hasn't been exposed to this kind of crime. And suddenly she became victimized by it. And then all of a sudden she meets a guy like me, you know, that comes along that, you know, I got on this. And she's used to, you know, the skinny guy jeans, you know, skinny jean guy, you know, and, and these, you know, beta males, and all of a sudden I come along.

• 1:34:19Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:34:19Speaker 06

  And I'm actually not even interested, other than doing my job, and that probably drove her even crazier. You know, and so.

• 1:34:27Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:34:27Speaker 06

  So that's how this whole thing started, just spinning out of control. So, um, so the bodyguard, if I had. That was probably the only bodyguard work I actually enjoyed. I had a lot of fringe benefits, obviously. Um, and it wasn't really like, it was real and it was serious. I mean, I was, I was packing. Um, I brought armor. I, I had talked to people in the intel services. They all agreed. They said, listen, whatever that guy says, believe it. He will do it.

• 1:34:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:54Speaker 06

  Guy is no joke. He's a felon many times over. He was a gang leader. Um, he got out and became a life coach. Which was kind of funny, right? Because I'm actually a life coach. Now, he, he's calling himself a life coach, you know, but he's actually a thug.

• 1:35:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:35:08Speaker 06

  He tended to be a life coach, right?

• 1:35:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well.

• 1:35:11Speaker 06

  And he's dangerous. He was really dangerous.

• 1:35:13Speaker 04

  I mean, that's something that, that isn't really being reported on a lot in the news, but like, that's a massive problem. In LA right now is that wealthy people are like, they're being targeted coming out of stores, like the.

• 1:35:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:35:28Speaker 04

  It, it's, it's a serious problem in LA right now that's not really being reported on.

• 1:35:34Speaker 06

  Yeah, no. And you know what? I'm, I was living with her. Um, it was just for her, it was just. You know, make driving her crazy, man. She didn't know how to, how to deal with any of this stuff, you know, and she's looking at me like, help.

• 1:35:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:35:47Speaker 06

  You know, I'm like, shit, you know, what, what am I gonna do?

• 1:35:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:35:51Speaker 06

  I can't even find these guys, you know. Um, but the bodyguard work, you know, that was, that's another story. Um, it's coming out in my book, more detail, and, uh, I, I have to protect the, uh, the innocent. Of course, you know, I'm not gonna mention her name or locations, things like that, but I'll tell the story. It'll be, it'll be pretty cool. Uh, I get a lot of guys that contact me that are interested in doing bodyguard work and, uh, they wanna know what it's like to get to that rule, how to get to that rule. And it looks sexy, you know, the movie, the bodyguard with Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston. I did it with 10x.

• 1:36:26Speaker 04

  Um, but it's, it'll, that's Hollywood, man.

• 1:36:29Speaker 06

  And that's not the real world. Real world, it sucks.

• 1:36:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:36:32Speaker 06

  People are dicks.

• 1:36:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. You're, I mean, especially when you're coming from a special operations background, like you're looked down upon. Your judgment isn't trusted. You have to pretend your clients are funny when they're not. They're smart when they're dumb. I've talked to guys who've done like EP jobs for like Gulf State, you know, millionaires kids, billionaires kids, like horror stories.

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• 1:38:08Speaker 04

  I've done, I've done that too. And my advice is never, never seek to be a bodyguard. Seek to be a person who needs bodyguards. Like being a bodyguard is, is like being, it's like, it's like being a bathroom attendant, basically. You, you, you know.

• 1:38:27Speaker 06

  Here's, I'll tell you a quick story. This happened to me in Paris. So I'm with this woman, right? Her and her husband, she's a Mexican chick.

• 1:38:36Speaker 06

  She's got this. I mean, she's just very eccentric, man. She had a pink, a Pepto Bismol pink Phantom Rolls Royce, right? This thing was insane. Hundred carat diamond rings coming out of fucking, you know, the hood ornament shit, you know, like damn. But, uh, we were, we were in Paris and, uh, she and I, so she wanted to go shopping. So all her friends were gay guys, right? She hardly had, I never saw around any women. Um, I don't know, maybe the gay guys is threatening her. But anyways, always shopping, you know, and they're eating lunch and they're doing this. And I'm standing at the bar going, Jesus Christ, can we leave now? And so I remember one day we're, we're on the street corner and I called for the limousine. And she's facing the street, on the sidewalk, facing the street.

• 1:39:20Speaker 06

  I'm standing behind her about ten feet, facing her, watching her back, looking for the vehicles coming. And I'm kind of just got a, you know, a tactical position there. And I noticed this guy's walking past me. He looked like he was maybe from Libya or something like that. Um, and he's smoking a little cigarette. He's got these little beady eyes like a little rat, you know? And he's, and he's looking back and he's, he's eyeballing her purse. He had this big pink Louis Vuitton purse, right? Big ass thing, man. Um, and so she's holding it and she went for, she got diamonds all over. She's worth like ten million dollars just standing there, right? And so, and he's, and he's sizing her up. He's smoking a cigarette. He's walking back. It doesn't seem he's standing in the back. Right. And I'm kind of standing there watching. And he's going back and forth, back and forth. And finally I see, finally gets the nerve up, he's gonna rob her, right?

• 1:40:05Speaker 06

  And he throws the cigarette down. He starts to make the move and then I step forward. And he sees me and I look at him, I go,

• 1:40:17Speaker 06

  and he looks at me, goes, ah, oh, you know, like this. A BB. And he walks away, right? And I, I don't say nothing to the client. He has no idea this is going down, right? I just saved her ass, right? And, uh, the limousine shows up. We get in a vehicle. We drive back to the Four Seasons and get out. And there's like six French dudes standing on the corner, right? You know, they're all staying the four seasons, you know, you could tell they're, you know, guys got money and stuff. They're wearing their trench coat and they're talking in French.

• 1:40:44Speaker 06

  And they're talking about where they're gonna go party or bar, you know, whatever we're gonna do, right? And they're shooting the shit. The door opens up, she gets out, she's got legs to kill. She's wearing this miniskirt, you know, big ass boobs, you know, and it's like she gets out and they're like, whoa. I did all dialing in on her. And I'm trying to get out of the vehicle on the other side. And so I'm coming around the corner, they don't see me yet. And they're looking at her and I could tell they're getting ready to say something to her, right? Come on to her. And here I go again, around the back of the car, I'm like, don't fucking do it, man, you're gonna get me in trouble. Don't do it. And they look at me like, oh, okay, okay. Like, whoo. And we go inside and uh, she stops me and she goes, she goes, did you see those men? Did you see the way they were looking at me?

• 1:41:28Speaker 06

  She's pissing and moaning because they're checking her out. I'm like, yeah, ma'am, I said, yeah, but they didn't say nothing to you. Right. They didn't threaten you, yeah. Yeah, they didn't do anything, right? They didn't check you out, right? So she goes up to her room, I go to my room, makes me, I get a phone call from the old man. Don't ever let anybody disrespect my wife like that again. I'm like, what? You know, what am I supposed to do? Right. Beat the shit out of these dudes? Right. Checking her out, you know? Right. You know, tell her to wear a burka next time. Don't look at her, you know?

• 1:41:57Speaker 06

  Right, yeah. And uh, but it was that, it was always that kind of stuff. Right. Always that kind. This guy literally expected me to just beat the fuck out of people. Right. For looking at his wife, right? And uh, and, and I was actually the smallest of the bodyguards. I was six foot, about two twenty, you know, I was pretty yoked, man. I was about five percent body fat and uh, and I was the smallest guy. All the guys were bigger than me. I hired them all. They're all big dudes and have bald heads. They were tailphones. You know, just different colors and different nationalities. Yeah. And uh, but he really wanted that. He, everywhere we went, he wanted us to be flexing because we weren't, we weren't carrying weapons. And uh, and every time we would go to like, he would, his wife always wanna go dancing, right? He's an old dude, he didn't wanna go dancing, but you know, he had to keep her happy.

• 1:42:42Speaker 06

  If you wanna get those drawers, he better keep her happy. So we'd go to a bar and she'd be out on the dance floor dancing. I'd have to stand on the dance floor next to her while she's freaking dancing, be keeping all the guys away from her because they all wanna rub on her and shit, you know? And then they'd go over and harass the old man, because this little Chinese guy, you know? And then I gotta go over there and, you know, interfere, get back, you know, you know, leave the boss alone, you know? It's like, all dying long, you know, doing this kinda weird shit, you know?

• 1:43:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's, yeah, it's the worst, man. It's, it's

• 1:43:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:43:10Speaker 04

  It's really bad when like, they wanna start shit with other people and you have to like intervene because they're talking smack.

• 1:43:18Speaker 06

  She did that all the time, man. She would actually start trouble with other women and men and look at you like, do something.

• 1:43:25Speaker 04

  Like you're a pit bull, get in there, yeah.

• 1:43:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, we, we were driving to our office one day and she was in her pink Phantom, right? And she was in front of me, I was in the fall of car, the road was really congested. Her, her office was about a hundred meters down to the right. And so, being the kinda, the way she is, right? She just, ah, like, gets out of the car, grabs her purse and starts walking down the sidewalk. And uh, I'm like, fuck, so I jump out of the car, I'm trying to keep up with her. And there's a guy leaning up against a light post, right? Just kinda lean up against it, looking at his phone. And she walks right up to him and karate chops his arm, chukum! And he fucking falls over and she just walks right past him. And he's like, looking at her like, what the fuck? And I come walking in behind, I go, hey, I just

• 1:44:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, right, right.

• 1:44:10Speaker 06

  Hey, you bitch. And he looked at me like, okay, I said, thank you, thank you, thank you. Because I don't wanna be out there in the street fighting a guy because that's the kinda shit she's doing all the time, you know? Um, but I've done a lot of bodyguard work and it's always, uh, it's always an adventure, you know?

• 1:44:27Speaker 04

  And uh, can you tell

• 1:44:29Speaker 06

  Maturity.

• 1:44:29Speaker 04

  Can you tell us the uh, the Singapore story?

• 1:44:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, okay. So I'm writing a bunch of books, right? So as I mentioned earlier, after I wrote American Badass, you know, I thought that was it. You know, the sun was setting all my, all my life, you know? All the cool stuff was over, but it actually just started, man. You know, we talked about Yemen already, LA, Hong Kong.

• 1:44:53Speaker 06

  So then what happened was, so here in Indonesia, my wife and I own a security company. As I mentioned earlier, providing explosive detector dogs, patrol attack dogs for all the venues and stuff around here. And so I ended up going to Singapore to meet another guy, a friend. And he goes, hey, I want you to meet this guy. So I meet this guy. This guy is a, um, he's in the, in the shipping business, right? Very wealthy guy, very wealthy, in his 40s.

• 1:45:23Speaker 06

  You know, he's from India, but you'd never know. You would, you would think he's American. Everything about him said American, right? Um, everything. So, um, he's like, hey, man, I got this big ass Dermot Shepherd, you know? I bought it for my kids, you know? And he goes, I'd like to have him trained. Where are you trained dogs? Would you be willing to come over here and train my dog for me? I said, okay, you're playing, you know? Are you paying on playing? So, so I ended up flying back and forth, going to Singapore to train a guy's damn dog for him. He lived in Sentosa Island, which is like Hollywood. Um, guy was very wealthy, Rolls Royce, Lamborghinis, you know? Um, married, um, two kids and, and the dog. And so he wanted me to come over and train the dog for him.

• 1:46:06Speaker 06

  So I'd go over there for like a week at a time, hang out, you know, in Singapore, go to, go to his house two, three times a day, spend about 10 minutes training the dog. And then I was off on my own in Singapore, hanging out. How cool is that shit? Um, and I was, I did that quite a bit, kept coming back and forth, kept coming back and forth.

• 1:46:25Speaker 06

  So, one day, I'm walking with him and his son, his son's like nine years old, his daughter's about 12. His wife is Iranian, I thought she was actually Russian, but she was, it turns out she was Iranian. And, uh, so, he and I are walking, and we're walking with the dog, we're going down to the, to the harbor.

• 1:46:46Speaker 06

  And, uh, he goes, "Hey, man," he goes, "you still doing security stuff?" I said, "Yeah." He goes, "I might need some help." "Okay, what you need?" So, he tells me this story, right? So, he's got this Instagram account, um, and he's, he's, he loves watches, right? So, he's always showing off all his watches on Instagram, you know, millions of dollars worth of watches. And so, one day, apparently, this hot chick on Instagram, you know, starts chatting him up. He starts chatting her up, you know, she's in another country. And, uh, but nonetheless, you know, they're chatting each other up. I'm, I'm sure there were dick pics and stuff floating around, but, uh, it kinda escalated in this thing, you know?

• 1:47:27Speaker 06

  And, uh, so, turns out, over time, this chick on the other end is actually a dude, right? Which is probably part of a syndicate, and, uh, this was a setup. And so, now they've got, you know, all these compromised, these text messages, pictures, things like that, you know? And, uh, so then, they can't reach out to his wife, and go, "Hey, you, this is us, um, you're, you know, your wife's, your husband's been flirting with this woman on Instagram, you know, getting pretty out of hand, blah, blah, blah. We have more information, we got an entire portfolio if you wanna see it, but, you know, you gotta buy my plane tickets, we gotta come to you, we gotta hand it to you, you gotta pay us, this is what the cost is gonna be, you good?"

• 1:48:12Speaker 06

  So, you know, she's thinking, "Oh, yeah, my rich husband's cheating on me, you know, and I'm gonna get, get his ass." So, uh, so she buys this guy's ticket, one guy, um, she meets him at the airport. The guy goes, gets his baggage out of baggage claim, he's got a knife in the bag, he pulls the knife out, puts it in his pants, comes out in baggage claim, he meets her, puts the knife in her side, takes her over to ATM machine, she cleans out the ATM machine. She's wearing a multimillion dollar Cartier with all kinds of diamonds on it. He said, "I'll take that too, and all the money, and I'll take your cellphone." And basically just robs her right there, right? So, so-

• 1:48:50Speaker 06

  He leaves, she thinks he left, but he didn't. He actually stayed overnight in a hotel. Well, guess what? She didn't put a passcode on her phone. Didn't put a passcode on the phone. Come on, really? So, he goes back to the room, he goes to her phone, he's got all the kids' phone numbers, husband's phone number, husband's contacts' phone numbers, client's phone numbers, her phone numbers, alternate phone number, he's got everything, everything on this phone. And he shoots her text messages, "Tomorrow morning, meet me at this corner on this ATM machine. Don't be late, and be alone." She shows up again, here we go again, same old rodeo, knife in the side, go to the ATM machine, empties it out, takes whatever else he can take off for her, and he disappears. So, she still hasn't told anybody.

• 1:49:36Speaker 06

  Um, you know, and so, he go, the other guy goes back, he's actually, um, so he's Iranian, but he lives in Turkey. Okay, um, with a network in Russia, a lot. Alright, so, and I know all this for a reason. So, he goes back, he starts messaging the kids, send them video, he's holding a gun, he's holding a knife, you know, he's, "I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that," you know, he's threatening the kids. Alright, and basically, the old man goes, "What's going on?" And finally, the wife says, "Hey, this is what happened." They go to the police, they check the cameras, "Sure shit, it's all true," right? But they can't get this guy because he's in another country, they can't extradite him.

• 1:50:20Speaker 06

  "The way he comes back, we can arrest him, otherwise, no show." And I said, "You know, I said, "You know what's happening, right?" I said, "This guy's threatening your kids, threatening you, he's gonna call your clients, he's got compromising pictures." I said, "This is not over." I said, "He'll never come back, because he knows a warrant out for his arrest, but he's gonna send somebody else in his stead." And you won't know who it is, until it's too late. "They're gonna threaten you, they're gonna want money, and if you don't do it, they're gonna hurt you or your kids, and so, you're fucked." And he knew it, right? And I knew it, I knew the play. And, uh, and so, he's like, "Can you help me?"

• 1:50:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:51:02Speaker 06

  Funny, though, but, you know, I ain't doing this shit for free, you know? And, uh, and so, that turned into, um, okay, a phased approach. Um, I gotta be careful what I say, but, uh, it turned into a phased approach. I contacted...

• 1:51:21Speaker 06

  A guy, he's a German, he's a private investigator, he's got a military background. Good dude. I've actually been working with him since then on some other projects. And he's very well connected. Very well connected. I told him what the problem was. Told him, gave him an idea who the guy was. We had that information off Instagram. We had some other sources I was able to tap into. We knew who the guy was. We knew where he was. So now what we had to do is tap into local resources to P I D him. Track him down. We had, we had, we literally had

• 1:51:56Speaker 06

  cameras, from streetlight cameras, of this guy in his car with his Mercedes, the license plates to include, he's wearing a damn watch he stole from the wife. Cartier, he's got it.

• 1:52:08Speaker 06

  You know, it's like, damn, you can't, you know, wow. And so anyways, so the, the mission was, all right, first of all, proof of concept. I show, I'll show you that we can find him. We can get to him. But then, you know, then there's the next part, parts of this thing. You've got to, you've got to pay for everything. Right. But the first one's just proof that we did it, we can do it. Second part is,

• 1:52:30Speaker 06

  you know, the deployment phase. And then the employment phase, execution. Did I say execution? No, employment phase.

• 1:52:41Speaker 06

  I gotta watch what I say, right? So, so anyways, that was, it was a phased approach, right? So basically, it required, the only way you're gonna get to this guy is you gotta get to this guy. And, and you gotta get this guy with all the stuff. Get it back and make sure that he never does anything like this again. Because, start figuring out, he belonged to a bigger syndicate. There's a syndicate out there, there's lots of them out there that this is what they do. Right. Internet scams, and they don't fuck around, man. They, look, they will fly around the world to, to complete their mission, man. And they, they don't care, man. So anyways, all that happened. The details will be in the book.

• 1:53:25Speaker 06

  I don't want to say too much because it could be misinterpreted what actually happened, what didn't happen. Misconstrued. Those are the kind, yeah, and these are the kind of things that have acted to me, you know? That here I am, minding my business, training a guy's dog. It's Singapore, and next thing you know, I'm like, what? Going head to head with fucking Iranians. So, you know, it's like, wow. So anyways, Yeah, it never ends, man. It never ends. Um, you know, I mentioned a story earlier as well that happened to me in Bali when I came back with the, with the military and people trying to arrest me and ISIS, there was literally, there was an ISIS cell here. Um, you know,

• 1:54:06Speaker 06

  they were, I believe they were targeting me and my business partner. But, uh, it's like, it never ends. I told you my friend, right, uh, earlier before the show, Dean, he's, uh, he's making a movie in, uh, not a movie, a TV series in the Philippines. I think this is year number three. Called me about five days ago, asked me if I could come to the Philippines. One, help him with security. Um, he feels threatened, but two, he wants me to have a major role, uh, on the show with him. And, uh, and the story's called, it's called, uh, Something in Paradise. I think it's Almost Paradise? Yeah, that's it, with Dean Kane. Uh, not Christian Kane, I mean, Christian Kane.

• 1:54:48Speaker 06

  And, uh, and so, he's a DEA agent, you know, he's medically, you know, discharged. He decides, I'm gonna live in the Philippines, in paradise, just live on the beach, chasing, chasing, chasing women, having a good time. And all of a sudden, he finds himself rolled up in this, with the mob and the syndicate and all this crime shit. And I'm like, you know what? That sounds like my damn story. You know, it's like, it's the same damn story, you know, except mine's in Bali, man, his is in the Philippines, you know? Um, but, uh, I don't look for this stuff. It just happens, you know? It just shows up. Um, there was another story I didn't, I didn't really delve into, and that was, uh, Dubai. Um, I was

• 1:55:27Speaker 06

  approached by an American who lost his visa. Um, so what happens, like in the Middle East, is if you owe money to anybody there, banks, the government, you're in any kind of debt, what they will do is take your visas, strip you of your passport so you can't leave the country. They call it velvet cage. You can't do anything. You can't work, work, you can't leave. You're just there until you pay your debt back. You know, how you gonna pay your debt back if you can't work, you can't leave? That's up to you to figure out. Otherwise, you're not going nowhere. You're gonna live in a hot box for the rest of your life, that's what it takes. So I had a guy approach me, American, um, interesting fella, um, former

• 1:56:08Speaker 06

  infantry guy, the, um, black guy, and he just, one day, just said, I'm gonna move to Dubai and open up a HVAC company and a deep drilling company. An eleven Bravo infantry guy and he does this, god damn, and he was worth millions, right, and he was very successful and then he had some medical issues with one of his kids, he owed the hospital a lot of money and then twenty ten is when, you know, they had to bust in, in the Middle East, everything went under financially, right, so suddenly he found himself owing lots of money and he ain't got it and they stripped him of his passport, his wife and kids got out of country, he didn't make it out. So he'd already been there for like five years when he met me one day in a bar, I was going to get something to eat and I

• 1:56:53Speaker 06

  walk in, I'm wearing my yellow python cowboy boots and he noticed, he recognized the boots, he recognizes me from social media, comes over to me, goes, hey, are you, you know, Dale Popstock, you know, and I'm always like, why, who wants to know, you know, okay, friend or foe, okay, friend. So he's like, you know, hey, I follow you and boots, blah, blah, blah, you got some bullshit, you know, got to talk, but he didn't tell me his dilemma yet, right, and he's, we exchanged phone numbers, I go back to Indonesia, a couple of months later, he texts me, he said, hey, man, are you coming back? I said, yeah, I'm gonna be back here soon, you know, he goes, I'd like to meet, so we meet and he tells me a story, right, he's been living there for five years, can't get out, he's like, can you get me out?

• 1:57:34Speaker 06

  So, like, get me out of country. The problem is, all the neighboring countries have laws of reciprocity, like Qatar, you know, they'll turn you back in, right, you can't get out. So there's only really one way out. You can do the long walk through the desert, hope to god you never get compromised, but you still gotta go somewhere, or you go via the ocean somewhere. And so I told him I could help him, but, you know, it's gonna cost money, you know, I'm doing this out of my pocket and so, um, there was a lot of, lot of issues with getting a guy out over the ocean. Um, so I would need to be able to take him by boat at least five hundred miles. That means I need a big goddamn boat that

• 1:58:19Speaker 06

  can hold a lot of fuel, right, which costs a lot of money. So it gets worse and worse and worse, right, but I said, so I finally convinced him, I go, you got any buddies that need to get out too? I don't care, you're foreign nationals, you know, you got four or five guys, you know, guys, y'all chip in and it'll be a lot easier to get out. I had a pretty good plan too, man, uh, it was a really good plan. Um, I had to do a lot of secret scroll stuff because one thing about the Emirates... If you go to Emmer, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, anywhere over there, you'll never see a cop. You'll never see a cop. They don't need cops, you know why? Cause they got one hell of an informant system and they got CCTV camera everywhere.

• 1:58:55Speaker 05

  Uh huh.

• 1:58:56Speaker 06

  Right? Everybody's an informant. Everybody gets a blue chip if they rat you out and everything's on camera. So it's pretty damn secure over there. It's real secure. And you know, somebody's watching, they're always watching. I show up one night, I go to this bar and I'm there with a bunch of chicks and they're, you know, and I got my book. And all of a sudden about thirty minutes later, this dude shows up, sits down next to me, go, hey, how you doing Dale? Who the hell are you? He goes, well, you know, I'm with immigration, I'm with this and that and that and that. He goes, how about tomorrow you and I meet for lunch? Okay? I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, like, hey dude, I'm just trying to get some drawers and sell my book, you know? It's like, we'll, we'll talk tomorrow. Yeah, I'll see you, I'll see you there then, you know, of course, I never would saw him, but uh, they're good, man. They're really good.

• 1:59:41Speaker 06

  Um, so I, everything I had to do over there had to be under the radar, you know? And I'm always gotta be super, super careful. Um, so anyways, that turned into, you know, safe houses, rat lines. You got issues with international waters, uh, passports, leaving the, leaving the docks, you know? Um, I had a good plan though, I had a really good plan. It involved jet skis, so. But uh, anyways, um, that was another one of my little uh, adventures. Again, here I am just minding my business in a bar, trying to get a drink, maybe put some nookie somewhere. And this guy wants to fricking help me escape from the country. And I talked to my lawyer, I go, hey, um, I said, what do you think about this? He goes, what, what would you call this if I did this? He goes, human trafficking.

• 2:00:29Speaker 06

  I said, okay, got it. Forget I said anything, alright? So I kept them out of the conversation after that. I was like, we're not having this conversation, human trafficking, what? So yeah, but I guess he's right. I guess that would be human trafficking.

• 2:00:42Speaker 05

  Let's uh, let's hit up some user questions here, uh, Dave. Yeah, for, for people who are watching Dale, if they want to contact you, uh, to procure your uh, services. As a, as a security consultant or a concubine or whatever the case may be, um, I won't say human trafficker. Um, where, where can they find you?

• 2:01:02Speaker 06

  Uh, so I'm, I'm mostly on Instagram now, um, official American badass.

• 2:01:09Speaker 06

  Dale Comstock, I'm getting, really getting far away from Facebook. I'm still on there. I actually got banned. I got banned from LinkedIn and from Twitter. You know, for stating an opinion that, of course, you know how that all works. So they didn't like it because it's me. But they actually gave my Twitter account back yesterday. And LinkedIn, I'm still working on that. But, and I only use those. Anyways, that's another story. So you can find me on Twitter now, maybe LinkedIn. I tried to get a real estate today, but for sure Instagram, Facebook. I have a website, DaleComstock.com. You can go through that. You can reach out, email me through there.

• 2:01:49Speaker 06

  My email address is [email protected]. Pretty easy to remember. [email protected]. They can reach me there as well. Those are the main ways to catch up. I'm not hard to find.

• 2:02:01Speaker 04

  And, and, and people can, like you're, you'd like, I know you're working on numerous books right now and, and honestly, thank God you're immortal because, you know, it'll take time to write all those stories. But, but for your first book, people can, they can read American Badass. It's available on Amazon. It's available anywhere people buy books.

• 2:02:23Speaker 06

  Amazon.com, yep.

• 2:02:25Speaker 04

  And, and it's interesting because, you know, you talk about building these improvised explosive devices for, you know, when you're working with UAE and you know, what a lot of people don't understand who haven't been in the military or haven't been in that situation is that explosives and breaching is its, it, it's its own very specific field. And when you were in Delta, you were the breacher in Panama for the, the American hostage cruise. Like you breached the, the cell there, which, you know, after years and years of combat. In Afghanistan and Iraq and whatever like Panama is such is such a forgotten event.

• 2:03:07Speaker 04

  But at a point in time, it was one of the primary combat events that had happened in US, you know, in US history of that time.

• 2:03:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, and you're right. It's, you know, it was well executed, well planned, well executed. You know, we didn't take any casualties of the of the assault team that went in. I think it's 23 or 26 of us total. We had we had WIAs, we had helicopters get shot down, but nobody was KIA'd. And we completed the mission. We, we, you know, we saved Kurt Muse. We plucked them out of their jaws of death, man, literally. And it's an amazing story when you read it, you know, it's when you know all the details that went into that.

• 2:03:55Speaker 06

  Things that could have went bad, you know, like my little my little faux pas there at the door.

• 2:04:01Speaker 06

  You know, I fixed it though, and he's alive, so it's all worked out. But yeah, you know, I look at, you know, I look at that, I look at my whole military career. So, you know, I started out in the 82nd Airborne Division Infantry, long range scout. The four year mark, I had made the decision, do I want to stay in? Do I want to get out? Decided to go for the gusto. I'm going to try out for Delta, which was almost statistically impossible for me to succeed. But I did at the age of 23, youngest guy ever. Average age 33. Next thing you know, I'm there 10 years. I go to the Q Corps while I'm there. I've become a light and heavy weapons guy and then go on to third special forces group, became a team sergeant.

• 2:04:40Speaker 06

  I had seen combat, every every combat event since 1983 Grenada, right up to the present, in fact. I've been to all of them with the exception of Bosnia. That's the only one I didn't participate in because I was in that transition, retiring out of the military. But I don't feel like I really missed anything either. But I've been in every conflict since that time up to the very present to include Yemen.

• 2:05:06Speaker 06

  But I went from, you know, I thought, okay, going to Delta, that's, you know, I remember guys used to say that's the final frontier of the military. That is the pinnacle, you know, everybody, look, SEALs, Delta Force isn't trying to be a SEAL, but we've got SEALs that are trying not to be Delta, you know, everybody wants to be at the pinnacle, that's Delta. And so I thought, you know, man, I reached the pinnacle at the age of 23, then I get out and then I get recruited by the alphabet company. And, you know, as you know, you know, Dave, it's not easy, right? Get through all that, the vetting process, the, you know, the polygraph testing, the background

• 2:05:47Speaker 06

  checks. There's a lot that goes into that, and a super high attrition rate, probably higher than the unit. And so, but here we are, right? Made it. And so then I thought, well, does it, I thought Delta was the final frontier. Okay, I guess this is the final frontier. Right. Where is it? And then I get approached with this whole other thing, this mercenary work. And then I realized, no, that's actually the final frontier, because now I'm going downrange with the same weapons Al Qaeda has. I'm, I'm literally sewing, like a grandma, I'm sewing my freaking equipment, trying to make shit to fight with, right? I'm improvising everything I got. And I'm gonna go in a street fight with the bad guys, no better equipped than they are. Right.

• 2:06:32Speaker 06

  And the only thing that's gonna win the day is my skills of self versus their skill set. Right. And so to me, that was the ultimate, uh, ultimate, that was being, that's the ultimate warrior, right there. When you can go to combat and you don't have big army behind you to support you, you don't have close air support, you don't have a medic to drag your ass off a battlefield, it's just you and them. And it comes really, it comes down to your, your training and your mindset and your warrior spirit. When it comes to that and you walk away and you're still got your arms and legs, you know, it's a win.

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  And to me, that was the ultimate. So I feel like I've gone the entire gamut, you know, the entire spectrum of warfare as a warrior, you know, from, you know, basic infantry guide to mercenary and everything in between. And it's never enough. It's never enough. So I sit here and I ask myself, if somebody were to come here right now and go, I've got an opportunity for you, if you're interested, there's a pretty good chance, I'll say two things. How much? And when do I leave?

• 2:08:51Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:08:52Speaker 06

  You know, that's the truth. You know, it's in the blood, man. Once it's in there, it's in there. You can't, you know, you always go back for another drink at the well until you fall in the well and can't get back out, you know?

• 2:09:02Speaker 04

  Well, it's funny to, and this is getting to the questions that people ask, but something, somebody sent us an email earlier, and on our Patreon, and join our Patreon if you're not a member. Why aren't you? But, but somebody's writing D, and you know, you're talking about, you know, always reaching that top and then going out and, you know, sort of being this consummate warrior, even when you're fighting without all the US support, without the aircraft, without all this. And somebody wrote D and said, there's an old Team House episode where a viewer asked the guys, they asked Jack. Jack and I, for the 12 people they would want on their O D A or their team in combat.

• 2:09:46Speaker 04

  And Dave said he would take himself and Levendale Comstocks.

• 2:09:52Speaker 04

  You know, and

• 2:09:53Speaker 06

  I better start reproducing, damn it.

• 2:09:55Speaker 04

  But, but you know, like, we've known each other for a long time and you've always been that, you know, you have been that, you know, sort of Koska Eternal Warrior, that, the guy that was, that was bred for war. And, you know, we interview a lot of, you know, we interview people who were like Mac V Sog and then went to Rhodesia. And like, that is you. You, you're the modern equivalent of Guys still getting after it as they're pushing 70. You know, yeah. We know some of those dudes, you know? You know, the, the, the man bred for war.

• 2:10:27Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, it's, you know, you're right. And I do know some of those guys, you probably know the same guys we're talking about, you know, that, that they're actually also my inspiration. When I see these guys, like, Jesus, you're 78 years old and you're still out there kicking ass. You know, it, it what, what they have done, they, they've broken paradigms for me. Because we all believe, we all are inculcated as mindset, you know, we only have so much, so much utility, so much shelf life, you know? When in fact, we, we can fight, look, man, some of the best warriors are the oldest warriors on the planet, man, you know? Um, you know, you got, you got everything. You got experience, you're Henri, you know, you freaking don't take a lot of shit no more. And, uh, you got past all the fear and stuff, you know?

• 2:11:10Speaker 06

  And, um, it's always been a part of who I am growing up, you know, my dad was in the army for 20 years. I grew up mostly in Germany, bases over there. And I remember the, all we did as the boys, you know, we, we would go out with our BB guns and and our dad's army equipment and helmets and K pot and low bearing equipment and play army every day, shoot each other with BB guns and shit, you know? And, uh, hand to hand combat, we played war. And that's what I was brought up in, was playing war. I was, I was in the Gogi already when I was a little kid, man, you know? And it just seemed like a natural fit because when my dad retired, um, you know, we retired out of Fort Huachu, Arizona, we moved to San Francisco. We moved to San Francisco. I mean, how, how cruel is that, right?

• 2:11:56Speaker 06

  Um, and I go to San Francisco and I'm like a fish out of water. I go, holy shit. You know, these kids are not like the people I'm growing up around, you know, it's a totally different culture. And I couldn't wait to go back. I couldn't wait until I was of age, um, and I could, I was able to go to recruiter. And so as soon as I was old enough, I went down and signed the papers and put me in coach. Uh, I couldn't wait to go back because the military culture is like no culture in the world. Unfortunately, we live in a society now where they're trying to dilute it. They're trying to water it down. There's all this political correctness crap is setting in. Um, it's a different army. I'm starting to see it. Um, you know, and, and, uh, it's not the one I grew up in and, and we'll see how that works out for us in the future, but something

• 2:12:40Speaker 06

  tells me it ain't gonna work out well. But, uh, that's the mindset I was raised in, you know, I was always a warrior. I was always a fighter. Um, even my parents, you know, my parents were like turn the other cheek and walk away. They're like, kick his ass. If you don't kick his ass, don't come home. I'm gonna kick your ass. You know, that was my parents, man, you know, they, they were warriors too. My mom and my dad, you know, pit fools and expected me to fight. And if you got hurt, tough shit. You come home, I'll hurt you again. You know, you little wimp. And so that's how I was raised. And guess what? I'm not a bad guy. I have no criminal record, zero. You can check it out. There's nothing. I've never done nothing wrong. I don't even have speeding ticket. Okay. I'm a good dude. Uh, but I do, what I do is I do for righteousness. At

• 2:13:22Speaker 06

  least what I think is right. You know, I stand for, I stand to fight for the weak. I stand for fighting for people that are the innocent, you know? That's what I'm here for. And the world needs guys like me, especially our country. They need us. You know, they need us, you know? And, uh, whether they like it or not, they need us, you know? And so I'm proud of that. And I have no regrets. It's made me who I am. I've learned a lot of lessons. I'm not perfect. Made a lot of mistakes. Um, but, uh, I continue to grow, continue to evolve. And even though I said earlier, I'm 59 years old, I don't feel like I'm 59. I'll stomp the shit out of any 29 year old out there, man, all day long. You know, I can still shoot. I can still fight. I can still do everything I did before because I choose to think that way, you know? I choose to think

• 2:14:07Speaker 06

  that way. And, uh, I'll always be a warrior. Um, I kinda like paradise right now, but you know what? Like I said, somebody walk through that door, go, hey, Tom, I got a deal for you. How much? And when do we leave?

• 2:14:18Speaker 05

  Let's, uh, let's, let's roll into some of your questions. Um, so, uh, uh, uh, Pody one, uh, thank you very much. Uh, can you talk about the funniest

• 2:14:28Speaker 06

  Experience and lesson learned from Gary O'Neil.

• 2:14:34Speaker 06

  Repeat that again, the funnest experience? The funniest, yeah, the the funniest experience learned. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I met Gary O'Neil in nineteen eighty-two out of Camp McCall. Now, back then, he was a stud, black hair, you know, guy was a freaking machine, man. And he still is, man. I love Gary, man. He's a good dude. Didn't know anything about him. My whole platoon, my Lurk platoon, went out to Camp McCall to the seater course. And it was cold. I remember it was like November. And we went in the bear pit every morning to do hand to hand combat, right? So you remember, you know, sawdust pit, you know, especially when it's cold and it's wet, it's like freaking concrete, right? So but we're out there and we're standing in a circle and up for toll caps.

• 2:15:19Speaker 06

  Stuff, you know, young guys. And then Gary comes out and he's the instructor for the combat export. We don't know anything about this guy. And then we start hearing the stories, right? Guy walked through seventy-seven ambushes. You know, Vietnam, Lurk, this, that, that, that, solid, such a takeout, you know? He's the expert with the knife and he's been taking dudes out all his life, you know, like, whoa, what the fuck, right? And then and then he he starts going into the mind over matter stuff, right? And like, okay, so he has a bucket of water out there, a couple bucks of water with a rope tied to it. And he's got bicycle spokes. And he starts with taking one of the bicycle spokes and he pulls the skin out of his neck and he jabs the bicycle spoke through his neck. Right? And then he picks up the rope and the bucket of water, loops it around the thing and he lifts it up.

• 2:16:04Speaker 06

  His neck's all stretched out and he's going around in circles to spin the bucket. And we're like, holy shit, right? Then he stops and he puts spokes through his arms, right? And he lifts up the buckets again and he's swinging them around, right? And I'm like, this is some masochistic shit right here, right? Then he lays down and he has a dude drive over him with a quarter ton jeep over his belly. And he gets up and goes, see, I don't mind. It don't matter, right? It's like Jesus Christ, right? He goes, I'm going to teach you how to fight and how to win and how to kill, you know? And I and I was in awe. Man, I was like, wow, wow, this guy is like a real life superhero, man. You know, I just saw it.

• 2:16:44Speaker 06

  And so, right then and there, Gary O'Neil became my military mentor for the rest of my life. I have modeled myself as a soldier after him. No shit. I read the books, right? I'm like, this dude, that's what I want to be like. I want to be that guy, you know? And so, I followed Gary over the years, you know, got out, he started bouncing. I've heard all the stories, you know? Um, he was hanging around Jim West, Smokey, he's a good friend of mine. Um, you know, then it was the Chanas and all those guys, you know? I heard all the stories and stuff. I thought, man, that's why, that's why I want to be a soldier. To the guys like that, that's the kind of, I want to be that guy, you know? Um, it reminds me, when I went to third group one time, the sergeant major, command sergeant major calls me in his office.

• 2:17:29Speaker 06

  Just met him, and he's like, "Comms doc, let me ask you a question." He goes, "What's wrong with Rambo?" "The Rambo?" He goes, "Yeah, what's wrong with Rambo?" I thought about it, and I go, "I don't know, nothing." He goes, "That's right, there's nothing wrong with Rambo." He goes, "Why can't we be more like Rambo?" I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, sir, yeah." Like, that's what I'm talking about, you know? Why, why do we got to be these little gentlemen warriors, pussies, right? And, uh, let's, let's be fucking Rambo. He goes, "There's nothing wrong with Rambo." He goes, "I want you to train all my ODA's in combat, hand combat." And, uh, I went right on, so I can, so I did, you know? I started running all the hand-to-hand training for a third special forces group. I was running, uh, eight teams through my training, every two weeks, another team.

• 2:18:12Speaker 06

  Every morning on my own time, zero five hundred to seven hundred in the morning. I was going in on my own time, training ODA's and combatives, you know? Um, wrote the manual, all this shit. But, uh, so I look at Gary O'Neil, right, and he's always been my mentor. You know, we've, we've crossed paths here and there, we've done some interviews together. And what was interesting is, when I wrote my book, American Badass... I did not know that he was actually writing American Warrior at the same time. Same time, American Warrior, American badass. I go, man, that is so cool. He's my mentor. He is the American Warrior. You know, I'm just a dumbass badass, you know, follow him, you know, and so I'm American Bass, he's American Warrior.

• 2:18:55Speaker 06

  And I just thought that was really kind of cool that, uh, you know, my mentor is writing the book also, you know, and I'm able to write a book because of his mentorship, of what he showed me in early in life, you know? He molded me as a warrior, as a soldier. Now, I've got a lot of mentors. My father was my mentor, um, big time, my number one mentor, my grandfather. Um, you know, Jim Smokey West was actually one of my mentors for martial arts. I mean, this guy is, this guy taught me how to fuck, how to really fight.

• 2:19:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:19:27Speaker 06

  You know, you guys know, you know.

• 2:19:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, we've had him on and Smokey, yeah.

• 2:19:32Speaker 06

  So he's, he's actually one of my mentors as well, right? And then Gary O'Neal. So I've got different mentors for different parts of my life. But I'm the amalgamation of all of those guys, the good and the bad, and that's who I am. And so, you know, hopefully now, you know, I am now a mentor for, for, for many out there. I do have a lot of young men that follow me. I have a lot of coaching clients that come to me and go, hey, I want to learn, man. You know, I want to learn the mindset, you know? And so I teach them how to think, not what to think, how to think.

• 2:20:01Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:20:02Speaker 06

  And, uh, that's what made all the difference is, you know, this way of thinking that Gary has, you know, and Jim has, and, you know, my father has and my grandfather has. There are certain people in this world that have shaped the way I think. And it's because of that, um, I am who I am today.

• 2:20:20Speaker 03

  Uh, Chris Wilson, thank you very much. Dale, do you think you would have whooped, uh, ten, uh, Sizmati had that fight not been shut down?

• 2:20:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, hell yeah. All day long, man.

• 2:20:35Speaker 06

  Funny you said that, bring that up because not too many people know about that. So it was 19, um, I'm gonna say like nineteen eighty-eight, eighty-nine, something like that. I can't remember now. So, though, I fought the first Valley Tudo match in the United States, in Richmond, Virginia. Valley Tudo is Portuguese for anything goes. UFC was just coming out.

• 2:20:58Speaker 06

  I got, you know, I had an opportunity to fight this Valley Tudo match. So I went to Richmond. It was three five-minute rounds. It was a sanctioned street fight. There were no rules. I broke both my hands, jacked up the other guy, put him in a C-collar. And then I ended up in Richmond, Virginia, and I was invited to go up there. I think it was Frank Cucci. He had a school up there. He hosted this fight. I was invited to come up and fight Shimansky, who was at the time one of the Blue Team commanders, right? And apparently he was the collegiate-level wrestler, you know, All-American, blah, blah, blah. And they wanted me to fight him. So they wanted, you know, they called it as, you know, Navy SEAL versus Delta Force Battle of the Elite, right?

• 2:21:40Speaker 06

  So, so I go up there. Actually, the unit sergeant major went up there also to watch the fight because we already had some beer bets going because up to this point, I don't know if you've ever heard of the CT Olympics, but it's an event that happens usually like in Austria. They invite all the SWAT teams, counterterrorist teams to come and compete, right? And it's usually seventy-five, a hundred teams. We would field a team every year. We actually had to try out for this team. It was five guys and two spares.

• 2:22:11Speaker 06

  You know, dev group would send their team and we would beat everybody's ass, even the SEALs in the water. We outswam them, outshot them. We always took number, the top five position, always, right? And so their sergeant major would have to keep giving my sergeant major a keg of beer. There was always a beer bet or some shit like that. So they're like, okay, let these two guys fight, battle of the elite, you know, fight for another keg of beer. So I'm gonna go win another keg of beer for my sergeant major. And so we show up in the morning and, you know, get all the work up with the doctor, the pre-checks. I think I'm good to go. I'm gonna come back that night. I'm gonna kick his ass. This is on my agenda. Um, and so when I get, I show up, they're like, uh, hey, the seal got DQ'd. And I'm like, why? He got herpes. I go, what does that mean? He goes, well, you know, if he squirts some herpes juice in your eyeball,

• 2:22:56Speaker 06

  you go blind and sue everybody. I'm like, really? What? Okay. So, okay. And so they had me fight, uh, the West Virginia Toughman Champion. And, uh, I made short work of that guy. We can took him out pretty fast. But so I never got a chance to fight him, but could I have beat him? Hell, yeah. I'm a fighter, man. I'm pretty damn good. Uh, one thing I got that most guys don't have is I got heart, man. I got big lungs and I got a lot of endurance, man. You beat the shit out of me for hours. Eventually you're gonna wear yourself out and I'm just gonna beat you up, you know? Yeah. But, uh, I think I could have beat him. No doubt. I could have beat him. I know I could have beat him, you know? Thank you guys who kicked my ass, man. Only guy kicked my ass is Jim West. Yeah. Uh, that guy scares me, man.

• 2:23:36Speaker 05

  Yeah. I've been, I've been thrown across the room by him a few times, son. Can attest, yeah.

• 2:23:41Speaker 06

  I mean, I don't think, you know, like, I, I don't think the people who, you know, who don't know Smokey, understand just what No. and, and not even just like how tough he is, but what a skilled fighter he is. Like, they don't understand what that actually means.

• 2:23:58Speaker 05

  He's a skilled fighter. I'd, I'd go further than that. I've told them this before. He is a skilled instructor. He's one of the best instructors I've ever met in my life. And, and that's where he's real. Like, yes, he can kick your ass. We, we all know that. But his real strength, I think, is in instruction. I mean, he, he's phenomenally good.

• 2:24:16Speaker 06

  Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, man. Uh, first time I went to him, um, so my, my son, God, man, he's 34 now, but when he was four, he was all into Ninja Turtles, right? He was out doing karate chops in the front yard. And I said, James, I said, you wanna learn karate like the Ninja Turtles? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I ended up taking him to YMCA. Okay, that was a joke, right? Daycare and we're not getting nothing out of this. I get on the phone with a friend of mine, Bart, Bart Wiggins. He's friends with Smokey.

• 2:24:43Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:24:44Speaker 06

  I go, dude, I said, dude, you got any recommendations? He goes, yes, man. He goes, you need to go see this guy Smokey. Here's his address. Go there right now, right? He said, "You won't regret it." I said, "Okay." So I go over there with my, just my kid. I walk in and there's all these boys out at my, about my son's age and they got these padded baseball bats and they're out there beating the shit out of each other. They're going for it, you know, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, you know, like a freaking brawl. And so Jim's like, "Hey, welcome in." He goes, "Hey, go out there and fight." You know, and my son goes out there, grabs one. He's getting it on, you know, he's smiling, he's happy. You know, my kid comes out and says, "You like that?" He goes, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." "You wanna do it?" "Yeah, yeah, yeah." So that's how we actually got started. And I told my son, I said, "Listen, man." I said, "Here's the deal." I said, "If you start, you have to finish." What does finishing mean? Means you gotta have a black belt.

• 2:25:29Speaker 06

  You gotta win a black belt. You can't quit. You agree? "Yes." And I thought, "Well, hell, why don't I just do it with him, right? Somebody here." So that's when I got involved, right? So now it's me and James, my son, fighting with Smokey, right? Training with him. And there was one other girl named Susan, um, Maran, and Julie, I mean, Julie Maran. She was pretty badass, man. She, she stayed in there. She was one of his other black belts and she would take a beating. It just kept coming back for more, man. She was amazing. But, um, you know, I, so we trained with Jim and by the time my kid was seven, he got his first free black belt through Jim. And Jim, look, you don't do karate's, uh, katas and, uh, forms for your black belt, you know, "Ha, kiya, kiya, good boy, here's your belt." No.

• 2:26:09Speaker 06

  What we were doing is we were literally going to karate clubs, like in Virginia, closing the doors with their, with their master and his students that he wanted to promote. And we go in the back room and it was a sanctioned street fight. Me, my son and my daughter back there kicking ass like a real street fight. No sparring. This is a fight, you know? And whoever wins gets their belt, you know? And we did that all day long, which was why I, cool, watching my son, who's seven, watching my daughter, who's, uh, nine and a half, they're out there freaking throwing stubs, man, beating the shit out of each other, man. Freaking bare knuckles going around, tch, tch, tch, tch, you know, and they're in their belt. And I go, "That's what I signed up for."

• 2:26:51Speaker 06

  And nobody that I know of did that except for Jim West. Yeah. You know, and so, so I learned from him. Um, you know, the guy's taught me a lot. Can't take nothing from him. Um, I've got a lot of experience, you know, because of him, um, even my own experiences now. But, uh, yeah, if you wanna learn how to fight. Jim West is the guy to go to, man.

• 2:27:14Speaker 05

  Let's keep going through these questions here.

• 2:27:16Speaker 03

  Um, Alex Bennett, thank you. Um, Dale, you started up quite a few successful security companies. What are the processes of starting up a successful security company and keeping it good without a race to the bottom outfit?

• 2:27:32Speaker 06

  Yeah, so, um, so my first company I started was right after nine eleven, actually prior to nine eleven, seven months prior to nine eleven. I started coming from global security consultant. I started getting into nuclear security, didn't know anything about nuclear security, had no idea what I was doing. But I went to a security conference for the NRC. I said, hey, you guys, it's me. I'm here for nuclear security. If you ever need some help, call me, right? They all were scared of me and my partner. We looked pretty scary. Uh, we had to lure them over to our table with little shiny things. So, hey, I'll give you this little knife, come over here and talk to you, you know, and do your business part. Well, then nine eleven happened and that's when this call started. Hey, we need to talk to you, blah, blah, blah.

• 2:28:11Speaker 06

  And that's how I got into the business. It was very successful. Two thousand four, uh, we sold our company to G four S Wacken Hut. Now, what does it take? So I made a mistake. We made the mistake of selling the company in two thousand four. Why? Because we thought it's going to die off. Security's going to end, you know, it's always overhead. Man, we couldn't have been more wrong ever. Triple Canopy was started after my company. There's a long story behind that. But basically, one of the guys, the owner plagiarized my website. Uh, I met the guy. I know the guy personally. He's in B Squadron. Um, and then all of a sudden, boom, you know, I got a competitor, but they still couldn't get into nuclear industry. Blackwater was competing with my company. Uh, they were just getting started. Again, I was keeping them outside of the nuclear security industry. I, I, I owned all that.

• 2:28:57Speaker 06

  And then I sold the company thinking I got to get rid of it, you know, make money, and then it never went away. So I ended up reincorporating again, something called Risk Control Institute. I sold that in twenty eleven. And then I've been doing that ever since. I've, you know, I've got my company here, Strategic Outcomes Indonesia. I have a company called Strategic Outcomes Florida. I have tier one performance coaching. So these are small enterprises. Um, you know, some of them are dealing with security. What, what's important is

• 2:29:26Speaker 06

  And this is where everybody makes the mistake. They become discouraged. You've got to have a dream. You've got to have, you have to imagine what you want, what it looks like. Every nuance about a company, you have to sense it here and now. And that sounds kind of crazy, but it actually ties into what I teach, which is autogenic conditioning and future pacing. So this company I have here in Bali, I imagined it a long time ago. And I saw, okay, I knew, I'm the only guy to know anything about trading canine, the only guy. So suddenly, my wife, who doesn't know how to turn on a computer, didn't know how to turn on a computer five years ago, now runs a MacBook Pro. Because I trained her. I taught her how to use Excel sheets. I taught her about HR. I taught her, okay, we need licensing.

• 2:30:11Speaker 06

  Okay, what do we got to do? Let her manage that. Oh, we need people. Okay, we need to train people. We need to find dogs. We got to train dogs. So what I did is a train the trainer program.

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  I started with my wife, then I hired a field supervisor, and then I hired trainers, and I trained the trainers, trained the trainers to train the handlers, trained dogs. And this thing started to grow and verge and blossom to the point where I don't do anything. My wife runs the entire company, every aspect of it. Licensing, payroll, HR, training. She trains the dogs, she trains the handlers. She does, you know, a lot of the business interactions and networking, things like that. So, it has, but it started with a dream. The dream was I would love to live in Bali, paradise, right? Where I have my own business, and I get to take my dogs that I love, my pets, and make money off of them, and to train them. How cool is that? Not really a job.

• 2:32:21Speaker 06

  And so I imagined everything I have, and it became a reality because, because Albert Einstein said, not just Albert Einstein, but Nikola Tesla and many other physicists, "Success is based on frequency. It's not philosophy, it's physics. It's physics." And this is the key. It's not about willpower. It has shit to do with willpower, has shit to do with philosophy. It's only going to get you so far. What gets you over the finish line is imagining where you want to be and the life that you want to live. I'm actually living that life. No, I'm not rich. I don't want to be rich. That's not my objective. My objective is be happy, experience all the things I want to experience. And I live in Bali, and I live in the Philippines, and I live in Florida.

• 2:33:06Speaker 06

  I, how cool is that? And I make my own hours, you know, I come in at seven o'clock this morning, do a call with you guys, you know? It's the dream, it's the imagination, and you, it's physics, it's literally physics, it's always physics. That's another area, you know, I can't go into that now, but it has to do with frequency, it has to do with your nervous system, it has to do with metaphysics, there's a lot more that goes into this, but all my successes, everything I've ever done in my life, had nothing to do with willpower, it had everything to do with imagination. Right. So, if you want to start a security company... Start with the dream. What's it gonna look like? What do you want it to look like? What do you want it to feel like? How do you want to live it?

• 2:33:50Speaker 06

  You start with that, then you invoke the next thing is called the law of action. You have to do something. Start doing the research, as I did. Start training the trainers, training my wife. Started building. All of a sudden, I'm one man. I'm a one man army. And I got sixty-five employees. I got forty-five trained canines. I got a corporation here with a lot of assets. And go kick an ass.

• 2:34:13Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:34:13Speaker 06

  It started with, it started with a dream.

• 2:34:15Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:34:18Speaker 04

  Alejandro, thank you very much. Same question I asked Paul Howe. What do you think is the best and most effective piece of protective equipment? And kit a team guy can wear? And why is it the mustache? Thanks for coming on, mate.

• 2:34:37Speaker 06

  This has got thirty-three kills, my friend. Sorry.

• 2:34:43Speaker 04

  R2D, thank, oh, did you want to respond to that?

• 2:34:47Speaker 06

  Yeah, actually, actually, I do have an answer to that. Body armor, alright? So when I was in the unit, all we wore was, all we wore was body armor with no plates. Level three A, right? And, and everybody just wore the vest, except for me. I actually wore the collar. I wore the plate, and I wore the groin protect all the time. And people thought I was being a pussy. I go, no. And I had a conversation with Pete Blaber, who was my troop commander at the time. He wrote the book Mission Men and Me.

• 2:35:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:35:16Speaker 06

  We were having this conversation about body armor, and he, his attitude was, look, I want to be light, you know, and be able to move fast. And I'm like, yeah, I want to be able to take a lot of hits, and just keep on moving nice and slow and methodically and take them out, right? So it was, it was, you know, we're opposing, you know, you know, opposing positions on body armor. Most guys didn't want to even have to wear it, but they had to wear it, so they wore as little as they needed.

• 2:35:39Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:35:39Speaker 06

  So then, then Mogadishu happens, right? And fricking dudes would get killed. Like the protect helmet. Okay, I always wore the Kevlar helmet. I got pictures of me and the whole unit, everybody wearing protect except me. I'm wearing Kevlar. Right? Everybody thought I was just a pussy. Till Mogadishu happened. Then they couldn't find enough Kevlar helmets. They couldn't scrap on enough armor. They couldn't reinforce their body armor. They couldn't, they didn't have it. I had it. I'm good.

• 2:36:04Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:36:05Speaker 06

  Put me in. I'll fight the war by myself, right? So, um, and so to me, that's all, and I watched it go down in Afghanistan, right? So guys are going out humping the mountains and stuff and all they're carrying is a plate carrier, right? They're going light, just the plate carrier. And like, why? Well, it was the weight, you know? And I'm like, well, dude, everybody, every FOB's got a gym now. Get your ass in there and go to work. Keep working out until you can carry all that weight and it doesn't affect you. I always wore full armor, full plate, full protection. Always. Always. I don't care how high up the mountain I'm gonna go. I always wore it. And if, and if I was a weakling, I made sure I got into that gym and kept working out until I could maintain it.

• 2:36:47Speaker 06

  And I always carried armor. To me, it's the most important thing you can carry besides your weapon is your armor. I know a lot of guys are alive today because they were wearing armor.

• 2:36:56Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:36:57Speaker 06

  They were taking hits, they were taking hits right into the plate through their vests, you know, and they were surviving it. Um, so to me, that's the most important equipment you can carry is body armor.

• 2:37:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:37:07Speaker 06

  Give yourself a chance. You know, if it's too heavy, get your ass in the gym. All right, work out. All right, build up to it. That body armor eventually will become a part of your body. You won't even know you're wearing it.

• 2:37:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:37:18Speaker 06

  You won't. You know, it's like my backpack. I carry a backpack around. It's thirty-five pounds. Every day it's my man. First, I've been carrying it forever and I get used to it. It doesn't even bother me the way it carried all day long. You know, everybody else would be sniveling about it, but you know, if you do something long enough, your body will adapt to it. And so my answer is armor. Wear your armor. Wear all your armor. Okay, so don't take no shortcuts. Just like you don't take a shortcut with your weapon.

• 2:37:42Speaker 03

  And wear those plates, right? Yeah.

• 2:37:45Speaker 06

  Yeah, absolutely, dude. Plates stop, they stop the seven six two, man.

• 2:37:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:37:50Speaker 06

  Uh, otherwise they're not doing you any good.

• 2:37:53Speaker 04

  R2D, thank you very much. Thank you, Team House. Love your work. Another phenomenal interview. Well, that's because we have a phenomenal guest.

• 2:38:04Speaker 06

  Thanks.

• 2:38:05Speaker 04

  Alejandro, thanks again. With all these things you've done in the private sector, how much you think a giraffe would sell for on the open market? When he says open market, I think he means black market. And he says, hope you can come back. And definitely when your net, when your next book pops, Dale, we want you.

• 2:38:22Speaker 05

  Yeah, the giraffe is a bit of an inside joke, but if you had to wager what a giraffe goes for on the black market, what do you think, Dale?

• 2:38:30Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 2:38:33Speaker 06

  A giraffe?

• 2:38:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:38:35Speaker 06

  Yeah, yeah, you got me on that one. I have no idea. Do you have horns?

• 2:38:42Speaker 04

  What, oh, Dale, like, what, what? If you showed up to one of your clients and they said, hey, you know, I'm trying to get rid of this illegal zoo. The last thing I has of this is this giraffe, full grown giraffe. You live in Bali. Would you buy it? How much would you pay for a giraffe?

• 2:39:00Speaker 06

  Shit, what am I gonna do with a giraffe?

• 2:39:05Speaker 06

  I don't, hey, they do have zoos here and they actually do have, right here in Bali, they have the Bali Zoo and they have all kinds of elephants and tigers and shit like that, stuff you would find in Indonesia. I don't know if you can find a giraffe here, but you know, we could probably add a giraffe for a couple bucks.

• 2:39:19Speaker 05

  I think, I think it was JT Patton who had that conundrum.

• 2:39:26Speaker 04

  It was, yeah.

• 2:39:27Speaker 05

  And I think, I think he said it was like, it was like $36,000 or something.

• 2:39:30Speaker 04

  I can't remember, but yeah.

• 2:39:34Speaker 04

  Sporman Group LLC, that's Clint, Clint Sporman. Thank you very much for the donation. I think that's Clint. Did you ever get a chance to meet or train with Carlos Sastari before, before he passed?

• 2:39:47Speaker 06

  I don't think so.

• 2:39:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was a, that's where we all met Clint. He was a big.

• 2:39:52Speaker 06

  World War II OSS Fair Bar Sykes.

• 2:39:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, we'll have to introduce Dale to Clint the next time.

• 2:39:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, for sure.

• 2:39:58Speaker 05

  He comes into the city.

• 2:39:59Speaker 06

  Um, at Jungle Jim Scott, thank you very much for your donation. We deeply appreciate it. Um, and that's.

• 2:40:05Speaker 05

  That's, that's it, man. Dale, um, thank you so much for doing this interview, waking up early out there in Indonesia to do this. This has been phenomenal, man. It's really fun to catch up with you again. Talk some more about some of these wild adventures that you get into. And I'm looking forward to the books. Uh, you said that the tentative title for the, the next book about your uh, adventures and misadvantage adventures is running the razor's edge. Um, you're still working on it though, working on a few other projects as well. Um, yeah, when you, when you get some of these to publication, let us know. We, we'd love to talk some more.

• 2:40:41Speaker 06

  Yeah, what I'm gonna do is I thought about, um, what I'm gonna do is make them all eBooks.

• 2:40:46Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 2:40:46Speaker 06

  It's easier to copyright it and, and send it out, right? And then if there's somebody that wants a hard copy, then I have a source I can go to that can actually print, right? For someone that wants a hard copy, but uh, um, I'm gonna kind of, because I actually sell mostly eBooks on Amazon, even my book, most people just order, you know, PDF copies of it. So, um, kind of the way everybody's going nowadays, they so. But for those that want it for nostalgia purposes, or, you know, an autograph, I'll, I'll make hard copies as well, but, um, it's been on my agenda. It just seems like every day I get ready to sit down and start writing again, something pops up, you know, another to do thing. Um, it's all good though. It's all in the right direction, but I'll have it soon.

• 2:41:28Speaker 06

  Um, I'm excited about getting it out. I'm excited about getting all the books out. Um, I think that once I'm finished with the details and uh, I think, I think some of them have potential to maybe be a, a movie, you know, or could, could go down that road, you know?

• 2:41:43Speaker 05

  Absolutely, Dale. Yeah, Dale, I, uh, I, I recently, someone was talking about how this could make a great movie and I recently. I volunteered myself to play a young Dale Comstock acid gambit era.

• 2:41:55Speaker 04

  We need to get him a suit, though.

• 2:41:57Speaker 05

  No, no, no, back, back, back in eighty nine, like Dale was kind of like, not quite my size, but he wasn't quite Dale size today either. So I think like eighty, eighty nine, eighty nine era, I could, I could jump into that role.

• 2:42:14Speaker 04

  Dale, so you're doing coaching now for, for either young, young people who are, are seeking success in whatever arena they, or even executives, where can they find you for their coaching if they want to hire you?

• 2:42:30Speaker 06

  I would recommend either go to my website, DaleComstock.com, or just directly email me, [email protected].

• 2:42:39Speaker 04

  And you do group, do you do group coaching? Like there were, if there were a bunch of like military hopefuls that wanted to like get together in a group, do you do things like that?

• 2:42:49Speaker 06

  Yeah, I do group sessions. It's, it's, it's less expensive as well for them, you know? It's more interactive. And then I do a lot of mostly private coaching. Most of the guys and girls that come to me, my primary demographic is men between forty five and fifty nine and women. I call them the old man clan. They're the ones that put the kids to college, the wife won't talk to them anymore, and they're fat and pregnant and like, you know, I want, I want to recapture, recover my life. So I get those guys and then I get men between thirty three and thirty seven. These are mostly business entrepreneurs. Some are veterans, some are not, but they're looking at how can I expand and build my business and do more. And then the other group is men from

• 2:43:31Speaker 06

  nineteen to twenty six. They're either veterans or they want to go in the military and they want to go into special forces, special operations. And I have a, I have a unique program just for those guys to get them, get them ready for, to include a training program. In fact, I just signed a guy up last night. He's actually, he's actually a police officer, SWAT, and He wants to try out for DEA selection and he contacted me. So I'm going to kind of put him in that 1926 year old category of training, bear him for that. Um, so that's, yeah, I do that. I do that quite often. Um, I have a pretty full load. I can only take some people at a time, uh, because the, the program is normally eight weeks long. It's, uh, two hours, two plus

• 2:44:13Speaker 06

  hours a week on a zoom call like this. It's recordable. Um, and it's, it's, um, it's, it's, goes in stages, but basically what I teach people, really what I teach people is how to think. Um, not what to think. I teach you how to think. And, uh, that's the key to this thing. I, I mentioned physics earlier. Success is based on physics. It is. And, uh, I teach the science behind success. Um, it's amazing how it works, but I do coach. I've coached millionaires. Um, I've coached people who all walks a life. I mean, you name it. Photographers, police officers, soldiers, you name it. I've coached them. Coached, I've coached international coaches.

• 2:44:54Speaker 04

  Can Jack sign up to be coached on how to hook up with a 31 year old starlet?

• 2:44:59Speaker 05

  Put me in the game, coach. Put me in the game.

• 2:45:02Speaker 06

  It's really easy. Start with shaving the head and doing that.

• 2:45:06Speaker 05

  The mustache? All right. I'll work on it. I'll work on it.

• 2:45:08Speaker 04

  The hair's gotta go.

• 2:45:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, the hair, the hair is going anyway. So yeah, might as well just cut to the chase. Uh, guys, go and, uh, go check out Dale's book, American Badass. It's out today. Um, please check out our Patreon down the description. If you haven't already, you get access to these episodes ad free and some bonus episodes and shit like that. It's cool. Uh, next week, we're going to have Jim Morris on the show. He served in special forces in Vietnam. He is the author of War Story, uh, The Devil's Secret Name, and his latest book is called The Dreaming Circus. Uh, I'm really excited to talk to him. He's a, he's a phenomenal dude. Um, so.

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• 2:47:05Speaker 06

  Yeah, thanks for having me.

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