ChatGPT Images 2.0 Is Here. I Tested Everything.

In this solo episode, I walk through ChatGPT Images 2.0 and show exactly how to use it to build creative assets that move a business forward, from brand visual directions to UI mockups to apparel mockups and editorial illustrations. I share the AI tool that surprised me this week (Noscroll), hand over a startup idea I want someone to steal (a learn-to-draw app with AI feedback on every sketch), and give you a five-step framework for finding and building a vertical AI business. I end with a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote that fired me up and a reminder to go conquer the day. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro 01:21 – What's New in ChatGPT Images 2.0 03:14 – Best Use Cases for Images 2.0 15:15 – Top Tips for Asset Generation 17:10 – Tool of the Week: Noscroll 20:17 – Startup Idea: Learn-to-Draw App with AI Feedback 24:58 – Framework: How to Find a Vertical AI Business to Build 29:45 – Closing Thoughts and Emerson Quote Key Points ChatGPT Images 2.0 delivers 2K resolution, eight images per prompt, thinking mode with web search, and dramatically better text rendering across languages. Specificity is the whole game with 2.0: dialed-in aesthetic, camera, lighting, palette, subjects, and output dimensions separate cinematic results from stock-looking ones. Every business has four creative bottlenecks: marketing content, internal decks and training, visual explanation, and testing before building. No Scroll is a glimpse into the future of AI agents: small, focused products that read the internet for you and text only what matters. Vertical AI beats horizontal AI for reaching seven and eight figures in ARR because niche workflows plus proprietary data equal defensibility. The Emerson mindset: own the day, finish it, forget the blunders, and begin tomorrow serenely. The #1 tool to find startup ideas/trends - https://www.ideabrowser.com LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn 'what if' into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/ The Vibe Marketer - Resources for people into vibe marketing/marketing with AI: https://www.thevibemarketer.com/ FIND ME ON SOCIAL X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/gregisenberg Instagram: https://instagram.com/gregisenberg/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gisenberg/

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• 0:00Greg Isenberg?

  It's a big day because ChatGPT Images 2.0 just came out and we're gonna take it for a spin. We're gonna actually see which use cases you can use to make money from it and actually help you build your business. I'm gonna go through a bunch of use cases. By the end of this episode, you're gonna be just feeling comfortable and knowing how to how to work with this thing. But that's not all. We're not just gonna go through ChatGPT Images 2.0 in this episode. I'm also gonna give you a startup idea that I think someone, please, please steal. I'm also gonna give you an AI tool that I think is really, really interesting that I wish more people were talking about. And I think you're gonna really like it.

• 0:39Greg Isenberg?

  And we're gonna talk about a framework that people can use to come up with vertical AI agent startup ideas to make money. It's one of the just spaces I think are just ripe for opportunity. So I'm gonna give away a framework for that. So we've got all that covered in this episode, so it's gonna get your creative juices flowing. But first, let's start with ChatGPT Images 2.0. So.

• 1:13Greg Isenberg?

  What are the three things that the old one couldn't do? Like, what's actually changed here? Well, the first thing is it's going to be able to go to 2K resolution. You can get to 3:1 aspect ratios and it's spitting out eight images per prompt. So that's a big deal, just it feels more powerful. The second thing, and I know a lot of people are gonna be happy to hear this, it's rendering dense and tiny multi-language text correctly. So one of the biggest problems with not just images, ChatGPT Images as a product, but really a lot of the creative LLMs is getting text wrong. Now, Images 2.0 in my testing, I will say, hasn't been right 100% of the time.

• 1:58Greg Isenberg?

  So, you know, I won't say it's perfect, but I will say it's noticeably better than the last version. Also, the ability to, you know, have multi languages there, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Hindi. I'm sure a lot of people are gonna be happy about that. And and it's also like the type of creative that you can use 2.0 for is just a lot more vast. So now you can use it for things like UI, whereas like the, you know, before I really wouldn't use it for UI, I wouldn't use it. Even infographics, like it wasn't that, wasn't that good. Packaging, like it's actually pretty good at packaging, posters, stuff like that.

• 2:38Greg Isenberg?

  And the third thing, and for me, this is probably the most interesting, is it has what's called thinking mode. So basically, when you prompt Images 2.0, it's not just going to look at your prompt and then just spit something out. It's going to look at your prompt, but also search the web, do some fact checking, and generate up to eight related images that stay consistent with one another. So it's kind of obvious in hindsight that it should, it should actually crawl the web, but happy it finally, it's finally in there. Thank you, Sam Altman. So let's actually go through some prompts that I did that I think people

• 3:19Greg Isenberg?

  should steal. I can include some of them in the description. Let me know. So the first is, my buddy Sahil Bloom has a skincare line called Wild Roman. So I basically was like, create a visual style reference for Wild Roman, a modern skincare brand for men 25 to 40. So I basically give it the aesthetic, I give it the film camera. So I said it's a context T2 film camera. I give it the lighting vibes, right? Shot between 3:00 to 5:00 PM golden hour. I give it the color palette, warm creams, some bleach terracotta. I give

• 4:00Greg Isenberg?

  it the mood, Mediterranean lifestyle. And then, of course, I give it the subjects, like who's actually going to be in the photos, real humans, natural posture, slight imperfection. Important to include slight imperfections, because otherwise you get stock photos. So that's something I learned over time. So I asked it to generate eight example images, a product shot, a lifestyle shot, a hand shot, a detail texture shot, an environmental shot, a lifestyle portrait, a packaging flat lay, and an ingredient story shot. And Images 2.0 just cooked. Like, does that look? Does that look AI to you? Does that look AI to you? These look like real photos. That product looks like something that people would buy.

• 4:44Greg Isenberg?

  And you know, I just think that this it's it's a it's really good at this. But you do need to have the aesthetic dialed and you have to be very specific with 2.0. Like really, really specific. It, you know, if it does, if you're not specific, what I'm finding is you're get you get like really stock looking images. You'll see some of that in some of the other examples I'll give. And then you're just gonna quit. So I highly recommend you copy this. You can also use chat GPT to help you just, you know, maybe you're maybe you don't know

• 5:26Greg Isenberg?

  the difference between a context 2T film camera 35 millimeter, 35 millimeter and 40 millimeter. I didn't. So I use chat GPT to help me figure this out. So yeah, this is, uh, this is a good opportunity to create like brand books, packaging. Even you could, you know, there's a startup idea right there, like selling this as a service to companies. I think a lot of people would pay for it. The another prompt I did, this was to try to basically get

• 6:00Greg Isenberg?

  photos that I can basically use to then plug into C dance 2.0 to create ads and commercials. So one of the things that you're gonna need, if you're going to create, you know, if you've seen these AI videos, these commercials that are incredible, and I've done tutorials around how to create them with my friend PJAs. One of the things you need is a visual direction. So I said, I'm developing a Super Bowl style ad, 30 second ad for Shopify. And I have this whole storyline where an employee hates his boss and he creates like a football merch line and you know, it's. He basically sells it on Shopify and then he ends up quitting his job full time. And I basically said, generate eight different visual directions for the same story.

• 6:43Greg Isenberg?

  Wes Anderson, Apple shot on iPhone, Nike just do it. And you can see that some of these are good and you'll see some of them are not good. So like the Wes Anderson, like this is Wes Anderson vibe, like as a reference images, as a set of references, images that you'd actually create and put into a sea dance too. This is really good, although what I don't like about this is this looks like Jason Schwartzman. So if you listen or, I'm sorry, if you watch Wes Anderson films, you know, this just looks like an image of Wes and of Jason Schwartzman, who plays in a lot of his films. So it's, it's just a little too close, right? But you know, the vibe is definitely correct.

• 7:27Greg Isenberg?

  This looks a lot like Bill Murray again, a little too much, but I think they did a really good, a really good vibe, vibe check on that. The Apple shot on iPhone, like looks like stock photos. The Nike just do it, I think looks really good.

• 7:43Greg Isenberg?

  Come on, does that look like AI? That does not look like AI to me. And I think like the jacket is on point, the jeans are on point. These two don't look like Nike just do it to me, but I think this one is really good. Cinematic images 2.0 is extremely good at cinematic. Use that word a lot.

• 8:02Greg Isenberg?

  This is not good. This is really good. So, you know, two on three in cinematic. So I highly recommend you use cinematic here. The other one's not so good, not so good. Not bad here, not bad. Not bad. Crazy. I don't like that. And then modern minimalist.

• 8:28Greg Isenberg?

  This, this, this is okay.

• 8:33Greg Isenberg?

  This is good. That one. So one on three, one on three here. So like some hits, some misses here. I think for me, the best one was Wes Anderson, the Nike Just Do It. Anything cinematic is gonna work. So the lesson for me on this one was like, you can't just say, I want, generate a visual direction, Wes Anderson. Like, it needs to be way more in-depth. For example, the first example I gave, I was a lot more in-depth around giving constraints around some of these references. Please, please do that. I want to give a couple more examples. UI, let's see how it is with UI. So I said, hey,

• 9:13Greg Isenberg?

  generate a UI mock-up for a new feature in Idea Browser. And then I said, go look at the app at idea browser.com because you can, you can tell it to go and do things. And I give it a feature. I say, I want a new leaderboard with the biggest idea junkies because it's a website for people into startup ideas and a way for people to meet co-founders. I, I give it a visual style. I say, research the style, again, because it can go ahead and do that. I say, I want it clean, a fresh, fresh, a hint of color, a modern SASS app. And then I ask it to give her four variations of the same screen. Important to note, when doing UI in Images 2.0, you, you're gonna want to include

• 9:56Greg Isenberg?

  your outputs. You're gonna want to say, I want to, you know, this resolution. I want native macOS Window Chrome. I want realistic data in every cell is really important, too, because I noticed that if you don't, you're just gonna get like bad data. So overall, it did, it did exactly what I asked. It did the can ban. It's, you know, pretty modern and clean. Like, I asked it, it did the, it put it in Chrome. Is it the most beautiful thing? No, but I didn't ask it to make it the most beautiful thing. And this was just a one-shot.

• 10:30Greg Isenberg?

  And to prove my point that you do need to figure out, you do need to give it the output very specifically, I basically said, hey, I want this feature as a mobile app. And it like made this like super long mobile app. Obviously, this is not typical iOS dimensions. So you'd have to say, I just did that as a test to see, is it going to give me typical iOS? It did not. So again, you want to do long, long, long, long prompts for images 2.0. That's just the way you're going to get the most out of it.

• 11:05Greg Isenberg?

  Couple more quick ones, and then we're going to move on to startup ideas and stuff like that. It's really good at apparel, like really good. So I basically said, like, give it a photo, real, photo realistic product photography of a new apparel item. I'm launching called Fourth Wave. And I gave it, I said, generate six shots. And like, this looks great. So, you know, if you're building something and you want a merch line and you don't want to actually create the merch. You want to see if people would buy it before you sell it. Do think, you know, use something like images 2.0 because it looks, I think it looks quite good.

• 11:49Greg Isenberg?

  Last thing I'll say is it's gotten a lot better at just illustrations. So the illustrations before 2.0, they all look the same. But, you know, I tested creating editorial illustration in the style of New York Times op ed, flat vector, limited three color palette. By the way, this, I use chat G P to help me create that. I basically started off and saying, I want something in a New York Times op ed section. And it gave me the language to use. So look at that, you know? It's, it's helpful and like, how is this helpful from a business perspective?

• 12:33Greg Isenberg?

  Like if I'm doing proposals and I want it to look really good, I'm going to use images, you know, images 2.0. If I'm doing a one pager, if I'm doing a PowerPoint presentation, things like that. And I want to spruce it up with illustrations. Now that you can also output eight of them, super, super helpful. So.

• 12:56Greg Isenberg?

  I want to just remind people before we move on from 2.0 that every business has four creative bottlenecks. One is making new marketing content. Two is making internal content like decks, docs, and trainings. So that's kind of like what we were talking about a little bit with the illustrations, sprucing those up. Third is explaining things visually. If you can do that, you're going to get more customers. You're just increasing the odds of success. And four is testing before building, like we talked about with UI, creating UI before building it, or creating a merch line before actually printing the merch and spending money on it.

• 13:39Greg Isenberg?

  So use 2.0 to help you figure out these things. That being said, and I have no affiliation to this company, I think that Glyph, which is basically like a creative LLM super agent, is really, really good and worth using too. So this is my go-to. Like, for example, I create my own YouTube thumbnails, and I use this to come up my own YouTube thumbnails. And it just helps, I find, get really good outcomes. So, like I said, no affiliation, but I'm going to be using Glyph.

• 14:23Greg Isenberg?

  I'm going to be using Images 2.0. I use Nano Banana Pro. So I use all of these. And to be honest, I haven't... I've obviously tried Images many times, but I've never been able to make it into my cocktail of, or my Swiss Army knife of Nano Banana and Glyph and stuff like that. And it's now in the rotation. I'm going to use it. Is it better than Glyph? Is it better than Nano Banana Pro? TBD. TBD, but it certainly exceeded my expectations so far. So that's my quick review slash...

• 15:10Greg Isenberg?

  News item of ChatGPT Image 2.0 is here. Oh, actually, and before I go on, before I move on, I just wanted to just say, whether you use Images 2.0 or use any creative LLM like a Glyph or an Anna Banana Pro, for any asset, you're going to nail, you're going to need to nail these five things. Context. So what is the asset for? Is it for a landing page? Is it for an app store? Is it for a deck? You saw how important it was when I actually put in Images 2.0, the output for, you know, I need it to be in this size. It's just, they need, they need it. If you don't have that, if you don't say that I need a YouTube thumbnail this size,

• 15:55Greg Isenberg?

  it just likely, you know, isn't gonna, isn't gonna work. Two, style references. Name companies whose visuals you want to look like. So, you know, you saw that in some of my prompts, like Stripe, Linear, Vercel, like companies you look up to. And then use ChatGPT or Claude or whatever to help you create those prompts to, because you might just be like, I want it to look like Linear, but you don't have the vocabulary for what that actually means unless you're a designer. Or if you're trying to do a photo shoot, for example, like we did with the Wild Roman thing,

• 16:36Greg Isenberg?

  you, you might not know a lot about cameras, or you might not know a lot about lighting. So ask the LLM to help you figure out what those things are. Palette, number three, specific hex codes work. So using hex codes is really important. Four, obviously, copy. You're going to want real plausible text. You don't want to create lorm ipsom when you're, when you're creating your outputs. And, and finally, five, aspect ratios and resolutions, important. So it drops into production without any rework. So there you have it, Images 2.0. So the, the second thing, so that's, that's Images 2.0.

• 17:21Greg Isenberg?

  Now we're switching gears. Now I want to talk to you about a tweet I saw that put me into this new tool that I'd never heard of, that I just started using. I saw this tweet from Blake Robbins. He goes, "No Scroll is one of the most magical experiences I've had. Magical AI, No Scroll is one of the most magical AI experiences I've had in a while. It opened my eyes to how AI agents might actually show up in daily life, not as one giant assistant, but as small focused products that do one thing insanely well." So I never heard of this product, No Scroll, but basically if you go to their website,

• 18:03Greg Isenberg?

  no affiliation, no scroll monitor is the situation, so you don't have to. You set the agenda, it never stops reading. And says here, "Your beats, your briefing. It's like having the smartest person you know, read everything you care about online 24/7 and text only you what matters." And if you click Text Your Agent, you scan it with your phone and you add it to your iPhone and you have a conversation with it. Now, I'm not going to blow it for you, but I used this product for five minutes and I was blown away with how good it was. And that was just five minutes, so I'm just starting to get to use it. I only used it for five minutes, but it was, it did feel like an aha moment.

• 18:46Greg Isenberg?

  It did feel like this is how we're going to be using a lot of assistants going forward, how we're going to be using a lot of AI agents going forward. And I'll give you an example, like in the onboarding, I don't know if you can see this, I added No Scroll to my contact list. I said, "Hey, No Scroll." And it basically said, "Greg Isenberg, you're the CEO of Late Checkout, the guy who turned fine startup ideas on Reddit into a whole empire." And then it researched and knew I had 158,000 newsletter subscribers, a podcast that probably has more episodes than most people have business ideas. And then it knew that I signed up with email. It says, "Signing up via email instead of X, though?

• 19:29Greg Isenberg?

  The man with 237,000 LinkedIn followers is going stealth mode on me with a, with a winky face."

• 19:38Greg Isenberg?

  What brings you to NoScroll? And then I say, "Ha!" And then it did a reaction to my "Ah, ha, ha." Now, this felt like I was talking to a person. So whether NoScroll is a big company or not in the future, or makes it a part of your workflow, it is a glimpse into the future of how you're going to interact with these products. So I think it's just worth it for that. And I was, you know, I was happy that Blake had posted that because I had never heard of it. So that's, that's the tool of the week. The, it's called NoScroll, and I think it's for, it is free to, to, to download.

• 20:18Greg Isenberg?

  Okay, the startup idea of the week is one that I saw on Idea Browser, and I would really like for people to steal. So it's, you know, the title says here, "Learn to draw app with AI feedback on every sketch. Art education is built for people who are already drawing: long courses, YouTube tutorials, who assume context, the hobbyist who wants to improve." And it gives this idea of Mark Day, a daily drawing trainer that builds skill through short, structured lessons. Each one takes under 10 minutes and can, and connects directly to the last. Jester work builds into shading, shading builds into form, AI feedback on uploaded sketches

• 21:01Greg Isenberg?

  catches the specific mistakes, a tutorial never pauses to address. A proportion issue in the left shoulder, a shading gradient that flattens instead of rounds. The habit is the product. 10 minutes, three sessions a week, and every uploaded sketch feed feeds a model that learns where beginners break down. So basically, it's this mobile app, charging $5 a month or $50 a year, that help people learn to draw. And I think in this AI age, more and more people are going to want to do art and get, and, and it's not fun if you're, you know, not improving or getting good at it. So I think that this is a, a big model, a big, a big opportunity. I screenshotted this Idea Browser idea, and I put it into...

• 21:50Greg Isenberg?

  Claude Design. Literally, I just said, uh, give me three directions based on this idea in wireframes. And I want to go through this really quickly because I think that this is, first of all, beautifully done. Claude Design, absolutely cooked with the three directions. And my favorite thing, uh, to do with Claude Design right now is using it for wireframes. So it came up with three ideas that I think someone should steal. Um, I think there are three, all three of them are really good. Daily Habit, look at this mobile app. So basically, home goes into a lesson, goes into sketch, goes into

• 22:31Greg Isenberg?

  AI feedback. Look at this. Um, you know, you can see like straight lines, eclipse, you know, okay, now you're doing curved lines and you can go and actually do it. Um, low, you know, it shows the strengths and concerns, like it says strengths, low friction, feels casual. Um, and then it says, there's like open questions, like this is incredible. Like, do we allow finger stylus only? Should there be a streak freeze or six day logic? Like this, this is really cool. Duolingo, be real energy. I think this would work and actually crush it. Then it goes in designs, even though the, the original idea from Idea Browser was a mobile app. It goes and says, you know what, we're actually

• 23:17Greg Isenberg?

  going to go and create, which looks like a website or an iPad, uh, an iPad, uh, app. So unclear, but, um, I think that this also looks really cool, right? Um, and this is this, yeah, it's, it's the desktop app. So side by side for power users. So it says here, it's a big canvas, persistent AI critique rail, curriculum is in the sidebar, sidebar. And the vibe is like more of a Figma, Procreate tool series. I don't think. I personally think it's easier to create the daily habit app and it would do well, but I actually think that this would also do well, just I wouldn't start, start with this.

• 24:02Greg Isenberg?

  And then there's the ritual journal. So the ritual journal is like, opens like a sketchbook. So at the left, you'll see today's concept and at the right, you'll see a blank page plus a gentle critique. So this is more of like a Moleskine Kindle meditation app, quiet thing, where the core loop is, you know, an open book, you open book, read concept, you sketch on it, and then the AI, there's a margin notes and closed book. So more of like a book vibe. Really cool, really, really forward thinking.

• 24:34Greg Isenberg?

  Like, I honestly wouldn't have thought of this and really interesting. But my favorite really is, I would say, the daily habit, followed by Studio Canvas, followed by the ritual journal. Someone, please steal this idea. And then shout out to Claude Design for, for cooking so, so darn much on this.

• 24:59Greg Isenberg?

  Let's talk framework. So the framework of the week is, how do you find a vertical AI business to build? So first of all,

• 25:11Greg Isenberg?

  of course, it's cool to build something like NoScroll, like a horizontal app that a billion people could use. But, you know, if you wanna build a business that has the highest likelihood of a million dollars, five million, 10 million ARR, my thinking is a vertical AI business,

• 25:31Greg Isenberg?

  you have a more likelihood of success. So what's a framework for coming up with an idea in vertical AI? By the way, when I mean vertical AI, I just mean that it's an AI software business that focuses on a specific niche, a vertical and a specific workflow. So how do you actually go and find these ideas besides going on things like idea browser.com? Is, you're gonna wanna find a boring pain point. Now, you, you might be able to find a boring pain point in your job or through a friend, or through an idea browser.com, trends and stuff like, feature and stuff like that. But you're gonna wanna... Figure out what that boring pain point is. You're going to want to map out that entire workflow.

• 26:16Greg Isenberg?

  You can use Claude Chat GPT to actually map that out. Or if you know how, you know, you know, that workflow in and out. Maybe that's a business that you're in. You've been working in for five years, 10 years, even more.

• 26:30Greg Isenberg?

  If you know it, like, that's your unfair advantage. So, you know, map it out. And like, when I say map it out, I mean, literally draw it out. Or use Claude Design to draw it out for you. Then you want to do the job. Step three is to do the job as a service. So what do I mean by that? Say you've been working in SEO for 10 years. You've mapped out the workflow. You might want to actually, you know, do the, let's say you worked in SEO, but you weren't actually doing the SEO. You might actually want to do it. You know, maybe you worked in operations. Maybe you worked in finance. Maybe you worked in, who knows? But the point is, you want to actually do it.

• 27:12Greg Isenberg?

  So you can document, step four, the edge cases and failures. Once you've done that, you've got the workflow. You understand the, well, you, first and foremost, you understand the pain point. You've got the workflow. You know how to do the job as a service. And when, and, and a corollary of that is, you know how to get customers now into that, into that job. So that might mean you've created, you know, an X account, and you're, you're creating content. Or, you know, you now understand the price point that people want. Or just by actually doing and creating the business, you're gonna, and doing it manually, you're going to understand it way better than you did before.

• 27:56Greg Isenberg?

  And the, the fifth step is actually adding vertical agents to replace the step. So that's when you actually create an agent as a service business, agent as a.

• 28:11Greg Isenberg?

  As a software business. So, you know, the mistake a lot of people make is they're like, I want to go and automate SEO, therefore, I'm going to start by just creating an SEO. I'm going to build an SEO agent. But, you know, there's so much you're missing, right? So you can use your clients, basically. Like, say you have an SEO agent, you can use your clients as, you know, your first customers as an agent business. So, you know, that's why I think that it's important to, you know, start by doing the boring pain point, mapping out the workflow, doing the job, and then document the edge cases and failures, because you're going to learn, like, maybe it's not you're doing

• 28:56Greg Isenberg?

  SEO for everyone, maybe you're doing SEO for fintech only, right? So you add vertical agents to replace the steps. You leverage proprietary data, like, maybe you're, now, now you have proprietary data, because, say, you have clients in the fintech space. So now you know that particular vertical really well, then you iterate and you expand until the agent owns the workflow. So maybe you started with just one small part about SEO and you expand beyond there. So this is just something to get your creative juices flowing around, you know, building AI vertical businesses, how to think about it, how to do it with the least amount of risk, even if you have a job. This is something that you can just get started with.

• 29:41Greg Isenberg?

  Hope that was helpful. There's one last thing I want to end with, and this was a quote that someone had, had actually sent to me. And it really did fire me out, fire me up. It goes, he said, "Write it on your heart that every day is the best day in the year." He is rich who owns the day and no one owns the day who allows it to be invaded with fret and anxiety. Finish every day and be done with it. You have done what you could. Some blunders and absurdities, no doubt, crept in. Forget them as soon as you can. Tomorrow is a new day. Begin it well and serenely with too high of a spirit to be

• 30:24Greg Isenberg?

  cumbered with your old nonsense. This new day is too dear with its hopes and invitations to waste a moment on the yesterdays. I'm recording this right now at 9:30 PM. It was a long day for me. I had some ups and I had some downs. But you know, when you read something like this, you know, you kind of have to forget, forget about the downs and forget about the ups too even and just, you know, wake up tomorrow and be like, I'm going to do my best. And, and that's the way to think about every single day, how, you know, conquering the day. This is an incredible time to be, you know, building a business, working on ideas,

• 31:07Greg Isenberg?

  getting what's in your head out there into the world and sharing with the world. So I feel very lucky to be, to be out, you know, to be talking to you, the fact that I can record and thousands of people could, you know, get my ideas. But I'm also, I'm also just grateful that I can, I and you listening could go and take your idea and put it out in the world and get people, strangers, to use that thing. So what an incredible time we are. And just a reminder, when I read this by Ralph Waldo Emerson, you know,

• 31:46Greg Isenberg?

  one of the great American people in literature, it just reminded me that even though building a startup is tough, and even though life in general is tough, and there's ups and downs, go and conquer the day. You got this. I'm rooting for you. And I'll always be there to share every piece of alpha to help you get your creative juices flowing. And I'll see you next time.