John Cena & Jessica Biel: Matchbox, Stunt Fears & Why London Food Is Great

In this episode of The Romesh Ranganathan Show, Romesh is joined by Jessica Biel and John Cena to talk about their new action-comedy Matchbox: The Movie, streaming now on Apple TV. They discuss the stunts that terrified them, the realities of driving a car next to a man hanging underneath a moving truck, and the art of staying funny when you’re meant to be the straight man. They also get into their very different approaches to Halloween, John’s hip hop career, and why London’s food scene deserves more credit than it gets. Plus, there’s a question from Shanthi, a game of Misquoted featuring an unexpected movement, and some surprisingly good advice to finish. A Ranga Bee Production. Chapters: 00:00 Intro03:50 A gift for Jessica and John05:12 Is London's food scene really that bad?07:52 Why they signed up for Matchbox: The Movie14:26 Learning to spin a car 18016:16 Delivering lines while hanging under a truck20:20 A question from Shanthi27:21 Karaoke and John's rap career32:51 How to make action comedy work37:55 Making a film with friends40:46 Misquoted41:12 The shower eating movement48:27 Being the uncool parent50:07 The best advice they've been given52:50 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

• 0:00Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, should we get into it? I'm gonna do your intro now. Um, if I've not bigged you up sufficiently, do feel free to let me know.

• 0:07Speaker 01

  You got it.

• 0:08Speaker 02

  You will not get that from me.

• 0:09Speaker 00

  This is about, this is about bigging you up.

• 0:11Speaker 01

  You're definitely gonna get it from me.

• 0:12Speaker 00

  Okay, cool.

• 0:13Speaker 01

  Hey, I'm Jessica Biel.

• 0:14Speaker 02

  And I'm John Cena, and we're gonna be on The Roma Show, so tune in. We might have something fun to say about, I don't know. Matchbox the Movie, watch it!

• 0:33Speaker 03

  Oh, shut up, Ramesh.

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  Uh, my guests today are two genuine Hollywood heavyweights. One is an Emmy and Golden Globe nominated actor and executive producer, who has starred in films ranging from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to Valentine's Day, as well as hit TV shows The Sinner and The Better Sister. The other is a former professional wrestler, a 17-time world champion, who's gone on to star in blockbusters including Trainwreck, Blockers, and Suicide Squad. Now they're teaming up in a thrilling action film, Matchbox the Movie, which is on Apple TV now. Please welcome the insanely talented Jessica Biel and John Cena!

• 2:03Speaker 01

  Wow. Thank you, thank you. I loved it.

• 2:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, happy?

• 2:07Speaker 02

  I have nothing further to add.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  Big fan about that intro.

• 2:11Speaker 00

  That's great news. Uh, welcome to the show. We're gen- genuinely, it's an honour to have you on.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Thanks so much.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 2:17Speaker 00

  Uh, I, I can confess slight nerves, do you know what I mean? You're like, you're, you're the real deal. You know, a lot of the time I have to sort of big up how much I care about the guest to, to sort of sell the interview, but this time I don't have to do that.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  What, uh, what's the biggest fear? What's your biggest set of nerves here?

• 2:31Speaker 00

  Uh, that, cause basically, before you came in here, you didn't know who I was or, or anything, which is fine. But if I make a dick of myself now, you leave here with a more negative impression of me than you had before you arrived, and that's, I'm a people pleaser. I mean, I've got imposter syndrome. I know this is not about me, but

• 2:48Speaker 02

  No, no, no.

• 2:49Speaker 00

  I've got crippling insecurity, to be honest with you.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  You are not alone, no, for real. You are not alone, yes. Yeah, we're, I, I go through a heavy dose of that a lot of places.

• 2:56Speaker 00

  Really? I'm just waiting for, I'm just waiting for the tap on the shoulder.

• 2:58Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 2:59Speaker 00

  You know? Just somebody to go, Romesh, we know if you leave quietly.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  I carry this.

• 3:05Speaker 00

  What's that say?

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Comparison is the thief of joy. To, and you, bro, you will see me literally rubbing it

• 3:10Speaker 00

  Really?

• 3:10Speaker 02

  In places where I feel like less than. I carry this with me because you're not alone. I struggle with that myself.

• 3:15Speaker 00

  Oh, thank god. Well, that, that's very kind of you to say that.

• 3:18Speaker 01

  I need one of those, it's like a, it's like a little worry stone or something.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  You'll see me on like, red carpets in rooms, I don't feel alone. Just like, my hand will be in my pocket like this, just going like that. It's a telltale sign that like, I don't belong here.

• 3:30Speaker 00

  Do you know what? Feeling less than is like a hobby of mine. Do, do, genuinely, I, I genuinely, it's like I'm addicted to it.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  I've, I've worked hard to try to course correct that.

• 3:41Speaker 00

  Mate, I live my life like a competition winner. Fucking wild. Uh, well, look, before we start, uh, you're, you know, you're making a film based on Matchbox Cars. We wanted to get you a little gift.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 3:52Speaker 00

  Um.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  You're opening with a fantastic entrance and acts of hospitality. Dude, you're good.

• 3:58Speaker 00

  Thank you, thank you so much.

• 3:59Speaker 01

  It's only going to be great.

• 4:01Speaker 00

  Just to qualify this, don't get too excited.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  Okay, okay.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  It's something.

• 4:05Speaker 00

  It's, it's something.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  I don't have a gift for you.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  It's, yeah, no, you don't.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  That's true, I don't.

• 4:09Speaker 00

  By the way, noted.

• 4:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:10Speaker 00

  Um, so, so, so there you go. Enjoy that, that's for you. That's for you.

• 4:15Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Shall we explore these now?

• 4:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, please do, yeah. Otherwise, there's no point giving them to you. We need some content.

• 4:20Speaker 01

  Heavy, I like that. Oh.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  I have a London taxi.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  Which is fantastic, suicide doors on this thing. Nice double-aisle bus.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  That's cool.

• 4:27Speaker 00

  And this is a, we've got you each a little London mug.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yay.

• 4:32Speaker 00

  Uh, which has got like a little London slang on it.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Mugs and kisses.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Mugs and kisses.

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  You like that?

• 4:37Speaker 01

  I do.

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  Cheers, bruv.

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  Cheers, bruv.

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  Cheers, bruv.

• 4:45Speaker 00

  You said it better than me.

• 4:46Speaker 01

  That is cute.

• 4:48Speaker 00

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• 4:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 4:59Speaker 00

  We came in and we gave him a hat. He said he loved it, left it in the bathroom.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Left it in the bathroom?

• 5:04Speaker 00

  Yes, and I don't think it was an accident.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  Well, that's just, that's just a dumb idea.

• 5:07Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll find a home for it.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Cause you're not getting away with that.

• 5:09Speaker 00

  Okay, great, thank you.

• 5:10Speaker 02

  This is, this is great.

• 5:11Speaker 00

  Um, how are you, how are you finding London, guys?

• 5:14Speaker 01

  We both love London.

• 5:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's one of my favourite cities in the world.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  So nice.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Absolutely love it.

• 5:18Speaker 00

  Um, what, what do you think of, cause what, whenever we talk to Americans, cause I know you're, you're both foodies, aren't you?

• 5:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:25Speaker 00

  But when, when we talk to Americans, uh, the, the general kind of consensus seems to be that we don't do food as well here. Would you agree with that?

• 5:35Speaker 02

  So, uh, to me, that is a sign of ignorance. Like, someone has not been to London in a long time.

• 5:43Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  Um, people come up to me all the time, be like, you know, wrestling's fake, right? To me, I, that, I don't get mad.

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• 7:20Speaker 02

  Out of that.

• 7:20Speaker 00

  Right.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  That is an indication of they have no idea what I do. Like, oh, I gotta start you from square one. Okay, the reason I love London, maybe yours is similar, is because it's such a food city.

• 7:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  I love, uh, cafes and great coffee, and London just take that seriously. There's like, books this thick of greatest coffee places in London that come out every year, and places fight to be in that book.

• 7:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:44Speaker 02

  And it is such a city for great chefs and great restaurants of international appeal. Any, the best of any cuisine you want, you can find it here.

• 7:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  People who say that, uh, there's no good food in London, it is just, they have no clue. They've either never been, or they've never looked hard enough, or they don't know what's going on. Maybe 35, 40 years ago, you could say that with some tact.

• 8:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:09Speaker 02

  Not now.

• 8:10Speaker 00

  Not now.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  I agree with that.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  Does not apply.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're, you're clearly going to the wrong places.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  You're, and you're just not, like, you, that you haven't done your homework.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  It is literally like, so you know wrestling's fake, right? Or like, is wrestling fake? Like, oh, okay, sit down, it's been a while, it's been a while, it's not the 70s anymore. Come on, let's talk. You know, I, I, I feel bad for the person who says that. I hope you don't shoulder any burden, cause that's not the truth. But man, London is such a great food city.

• 8:37Speaker 00

  Oh, thank you for saying that. Do you have, do you?

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Do you agree?

• 8:41Speaker 01

  I do.

• 8:41Speaker 00

  I'd love it if you turned around and go, I'm gonna get shit.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  I hate the food here, no. I do agree. I, I just, I, I just feel like you can't do, you cannot make a blanket statement like that.

• 8:52Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  For a city like this, that is filled with such diversity, so many types of food, you just, you just gotta be, you're lazy.

• 9:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  That's a lazy answer.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  It's like, great chefs come here to make their mark.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Yeah. And also the bar scene and the

• 9:07Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  The, the mixologists here.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  What are you into? Uppers, downers? You guys got it all.

• 9:11Speaker 01

  You know.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  And the Brits, they do it, they, they do it my way. Start drinking at noon, get to bed at eight. Get a good night's sleep and do it again. I like that, I like that.

• 9:21Speaker 00

  Uh, well, look, congratulations, Matchbox the Movie, proper, that is a proper, proper film. Congratulations.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  Thank you, thank you.

• 9:29Speaker 00

  It's, in a weird way, an old-fashioned movie. And what I mean by that is, it's a proper blockbuster film. You know, like, you don't see as many of these now, where it's just, the stunts, for example, are unbelievable in this. And I know we're starting to see, in the movie industry, move back towards the, kind of, the respect for stunts and, you know, proper, proper stunts. Yeah, practical stuff is something that we're seeing more of in films. Um, what, what drew you to it in the first place, each of you? Like, what, what made you wanna get involved? I mean, obviously, you know, there's the fee and stuff, isn't there? But aside from that?

• 10:00Speaker 02

  Aside from being paid to play dress up, there is. There's some more framework there. For you, what was it?

• 10:05Speaker 01

  I mean, I think it was working with Sam when we had our conversation, Sam Hargrave, our amazing director, who we all know his background with stunts and, you know, incredible action sequences and talking to him about this, about how this was going to be different, sort of to your point. I feel like it's a kind of an old fashioned film too, because it's, it combines comedy, a lot of heart, amazing action sequences. Like it has all of those pieces. It's actually quite hard to do, to have all of those genres kind of in one place. So I was excited about the friendship element and, you know, being able to drive these amazing cars and learn all this cool performance driving and just

• 10:47Speaker 01

  being, being in a big budget for quadrant action movie. I just haven't done that in a really long time and I just was excited to be back in that space with this amazing cast.

• 10:56Speaker 00

  Is that a similar sort of thing for you, John?

• 10:58Speaker 02

  Well, I, I like your take on it. The movie is not trying to be anything it's not.

• 11:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:04Speaker 02

  You can see the poster, get an idea and it delivers.

• 11:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  And I like that. There is a sense of reward to that. The movie is based on nostalgia and imagine that here we're saying that it's a nostalgic movie.

• 11:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:16Speaker 02

  Because, hey, these friends are gonna go on an adventure, kind of unlikely whimsical scenario, and they're gonna do their best to try to save the day.

• 11:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:23Speaker 02

  And we're gonna do it all and, and serve you a, a hero's journey sort of tale. End of the movie.

• 11:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:29Speaker 02

  Um, I had a little more experience. I got to sneak into Barbie as a merman. So I saw what Mattel, uh, the passion they had for their IPs and they, they were great partners in Barbie for the little I stayed there and that was filming right across from Fast. So I was filming, they were filming Barbie at the same time I was filming Fast. I could see the passion they had for that project on set and how they, they managed themselves every day. So I just had a good feeling about, okay, this is a Mattel IP. They seem to be pretty good with kind of winking at the camera and being okay with that during Barbie. I have a feeling the adaptation is gonna be great. And then, of course, the cast, amazing. Anytime you can be around performers, it'll make you better.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Quite honestly, even if it's not a commercial success, which none of us can predict.

• 12:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  It, I learn, I gain wisdom, I gain friendship. Uh, that to me is a great day at the office.

• 12:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  And then Sam Hargrave, knowing that practical action was a cornerstone of the movie, like, man, we're gonna, we're gonna flip this truck. You're gonna be hanging from this chopper. Like this is real stuff that's gonna happen that I'm gonna want you to do. That was challenging for me and I was afraid to do it. Um, and also kind of curiously excited to do it, you know?

• 12:43Speaker 00

  Well, I was, because I, I've, I've read that you were scared to, you know, you were frightened, you, you had, you were intimidated by the stunts you had to do.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  Put in any word you want. Scared is, scared is.

• 12:51Speaker 00

  Okay, cool. Cause I just thought, I don't wanna offend you and then suddenly get sparked out.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  Afraid.

• 12:56Speaker 00

  Um, so, um, but, so I've done, whenever I've done, I've done anything like that, let me be clear. But whenever I've done anything that involves, I've done travel shows where you have to do some physical thing at the end of it. It's very difficult for you to engage in anything else without that sitting in your head, right?

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 13:13Speaker 00

  So how did you deal with the fact that you've got these things that are sitting there that you know are gonna be terrifying? There are, they're, they're gonna control as many of the controllables as they can, but regardless of that, there's still a risk, there's still danger. How did you, I mean, thank God I wasn't giving the pep talk beforehand, but how do you, how do you, how did you deal with it? How did you compartmentalize that?

• 13:34Speaker 02

  That's actually me giving myself the pep talk. It's, I, they didn't spring any of that stuff up on me. If we started shooting in January, I knew by October, that's what I was doing.

• 13:43Speaker 00

  Right, right, right.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  And thankfully, I knew by October and still had a chance to accept or deny. Like, here is what we expect of you.

• 13:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:51Speaker 02

  I think on some of those competition shows, a lot of those physical tasks come as a surprise. You know, you're trying to move through space and then they turn the lights on. It's like, you have to swim through shark infested waters? What are we gonna do? At least in, um, controlled cinema, controlled entertainment, you know what you're signing up for.

• 14:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  So like, reading the script, you can kind of get an estimate of what a professional, a stunt performer should do and what a principal should do. Um, Sam Hargrave also sent me a list. He's like, this is what I expect John Cena from physical standpoint. This is my list of expectations. This is my gold standard list and this is like the hail Mary wish list. So communication too, uh, which leads me to want to do this. So I have communication and trust and I have set expectations from day one. That allowed me to be at peace with the moments we were at and then still be afraid for the stuff, but only be afraid like in the moment. Like Jess was there to watch me like face one of my biggest fears

• 14:53Speaker 02

  and jumping off a building and apprehensive, but go, all right, let's do it. Let's go.

• 15:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:00Speaker 02

  You know, so it's not, it's not dominating my thoughts. I think it's right when you get there and you're hooked up to all that stuff.

• 15:05Speaker 00

  And then you can engage.

• 15:06Speaker 02

  Action, go for it. And then I'm scared shitless.

• 15:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:09Speaker 00

  Um, Jess, did you, did you do a lot of the, the, was it exciting doing all the driving? Cause there's so, there's so much amazing vehicle stuff in this and it's, what I thought.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  So much.

• 15:20Speaker 00

  It, cause, cause the, the thing is, is it's, it's a group of childhood friends and then you see them growing up and then they go on this adventure.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 15:28Speaker 00

  And essentially is, you see the kids playing with the cars at the beginning and then the story is essentially what you, what some kids would imagine the story being that involves these vehicles, right? That, that's kind of how the film plays out. So you're seeing the vehicles do all of the coolest shit that you want them to do, right? In this film.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:46Speaker 00

  What was it like to sort of, to, to, to get your hands dirty with all of that?

• 15:51Speaker 01

  It was amazing. I mean, we had the best teachers, the best stunt coordinating team, the best female performance drivers and race car drivers. And I just learned the coolest shit. I learned how to spin a car in a 180 and like park it on a mark, which is insane. Like the thought of doing that, I was like, this is what, this is not working. We're not doing that, are we?

• 16:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  And we did. And they, they taught me how to do that and drive comfortably with all these crazy cameras off of giant gimbal arms with cars and motorcycles and giant trucks and John's hanging underneath the truck. And I'm driving practically next to him hanging under a truck.

• 16:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:27Speaker 01

  With no doors. It was crazy. I, I, at some points I thought, are these guys seriously gonna let me do this? And they did. I mean, they let us do all this crazy fun stuff. It was, um, it was a real joy. I love stunt work and watching John have to face these fears. Like it was incredibly impressive what he was doing every day, jumping off buildings and hanging from helicopters. That is not easy in general. And then when you have like a big fear about it.

• 16:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  It was just crazy impressive how he was facing fears every day.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  I wish I could have switched jobs with her. She likes to, she likes that stuff.

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:03Speaker 02

  The daredevil stuff. I like to drive.

• 17:05Speaker 01

  And he likes to drive.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, okay. Um, do you, um, can you see yourself sort of, uh, 180ing a car onto a mark i- in real life? Have you thought about trying to simulate that again?

• 17:15Speaker 01

  You know what? I did think about that. And then I realized, oh, I do not have the tools.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  That I do not have the right.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  The drift brake.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  The drift brake is what I don't have in my cars. And I realized you really, these, these cars are so tricked out.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  They are.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  In the right way to actually do those things. So you can't really, I mean, you're.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  You can.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Okay. You can. You have heard it here.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  You should have been driving.

• 17:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  You should have been driving.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  That, um, the scene that you talk about where you're in the car, you're hanging off the bottom of the truck, um, and you're actually doing that. And you can tell that you're actually doing it. If it, it looks, you know, it looks like, it looks like a practical stunt. You're doing the thing. You're also delivering funny dialogue while you're doing that. How much of a challenge is that on top of having the adrenaline rush of doing all of that and then having to, to deliver these lines? How do you, how do you deal with the, the challenge of that?

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Well, that's, that's really the key, right? Is you have to get so comfortable with what you're doing physically.

• 18:17Speaker 00

  Right.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  That you don't think about it anymore and you can deliver the lines and do two or three or four things at once, right? Don't you think?

• 18:25Speaker 02

  I also think it's so, like when actors talk about getting into character, um, a lot of the times audiences will disengage because it's like, man, you could kind of just say the words, right? But like, so you're hanging under a big rig, uh, that looks like it's going 65. For me, it's probably going 35.

• 18:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  And you can't let go. And you have to look smooth in like being comedic and doing like, he's got a gun. That's what I was trying to say. Like, you're right. I'm only saying like three words over and over again. And at the same time, holding on for dear life, facing a fear, watching the asphalt go beneath me. She's driving a car that she's about to cut the roof off of, keeping pace with a camera here and a camera here and a camera here. And she has to keep three and a half feet. So she's going 35 miles an hour. So is the driver in front.

• 19:11Speaker 01

  60 miles an hour.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  I'm just trying to say like.

• 19:14Speaker 01

  We were going really fast.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  And, and by the way, all, everything also seems super fast because you're thinking of like, your camera's stationary. If I lean forward, if I lean back, I'm still fine. But now if your camera's on the move, you're on the move. There's a camera on the big rig that we have to pace and the big rig's on the move. So everybody's trying to have the same attitude of speed.

• 19:33Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  And you're in control of this, this vehicle and you have to like, you can't look at the camera and be like, it's still three feet. No, you can't ever look at the camera. And then you have to do your stuff as if it's second nature to, to kick ass in a 68 fastback.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  And the guy on the motorcycle's on the hood.

• 19:50Speaker 02

  On the hood, blocking the windshield, blocking your distance with the gun and he's the joke. And then you have to like, oh my goodness, what? What are you talking about? Ah, like it's, to get into character is managing all of those little micro things that no audience member will ever see because they're not supposed to.

• 20:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  And that's like, that's the fun and also the challenge of the, the dress up life, I guess.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:16Speaker 02

  And that's, that, it's amazing to see people go through their checklist and be able to pull off stuff like that, especially when doing a new skill.

• 20:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Making jumping off a building look like I want to and I do it for a living, when I'm really so fucking scared.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  And I know I have to get some sort of resolve, because if I look scared, they ain't gonna use it.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, isn't it? Just doing it is not enough, right?

• 20:41Speaker 02

  No, it's not just the courage to like hop the building, because the, you know, the cord's gonna catch you. No, do it like you do this all the time. You know, and then create a series of humor in it when you, when it goes south.

• 20:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  You know, like it's, hey, switch from like cool action guy to totally just stepped in it, you know?

• 21:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  By the way, you're also gonna be like fifteen feet up and you're gonna hit a few things on the way down. You know, like that's, that's the fun. Like I said, it's a, it's a fun challenge. It's, it's not, I mean, there are way steeper hills to climb as far as vocation is concerned, life is concerned. But it is just all of those things that I don't think folks know about if they're not, if they're not on that environment. Movie sets are so busy. What you see isn't the business. I mean, even here, when we turn the cameras around, there's an, there's an army of people.

• 21:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't like to recognize them. You know, it's, it's just, there's a certain hierarchy here, and I feel if you refer to them too much, they start to get above their station.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  So what I noticed about your show is you do it all yourself.

• 21:39Speaker 00

  Thanks, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's tricky.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  Nobody else here. On a normal show, there'd be an army of people, and you do it all. I just, kudos.

• 21:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's just how I operate. Thank you so much.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's amazing.

• 21:50Speaker 00

  Uh, we've got a question from my mom now. Uh, she always asks a question on this. Uh, I, I, I've not heard it, so, um, she's recorded it, so apologies in advance if.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  Hi, John and Jessica. I'm Shanti Romesh's mom. You both are such a beautiful people. You both are very stylish. When, when I came to America, I love everyone, kids and adults. Makes huge effort for Halloween. What do you think of costume parties? Will you dress up this year? Love to know. Love you both. Have a wonderful time in UK. See you. Bye bye.

• 22:36Speaker 00

  Um, I would, I would say that mom's pauses in that question made that quite a roller coaster. I, I, I mean.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  I love her.

• 22:44Speaker 00

  When she said, love kids, I thought, I hope that's not the end of this.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Did she say we were tiny?

• 22:52Speaker 00

  She said you were stylish, is what she said. In fact, when, in fact, when she, when I, she texted me this morning, because she knew that I was chatting to you today. And she said, please make sure that you look okay, because I know the people you're meeting today are really stylish. And then I sort of got pissed off. I, you, like, she was sort of, I was, I just said to her, I'll try my best. And she goes, no, no, you are, you are stylish. I'm just saying, they're very stylish.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Isn't it funny how your mom could say one thing and you're just like, ah?

• 23:21Speaker 00

  I know. It's so, it's embarrassing.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  You're so rude.

• 23:23Speaker 00

  I know. The other day, my mom said to me, your skin looks tired and sagging. And, and she's, and I said, well, why, why would you say that? Who else is gonna say? I said, ideally, nobody. Like, you know, you, you don't need that feedback, right?

• 23:35Speaker 01

  Well, you don't need to know, because you know. If it's happening to you, you already know.

• 23:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, and also, the, the, the other thing of being paranoid that that's happening.

• 23:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:43Speaker 00

  And then if nobody says it, you can live under the illusion.

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can.

• 23:47Speaker 00

  That nobody thinks that.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:48Speaker 00

  As soon as somebody confirms it, okay, cool. That's something for me to think about at three AM. Thanks so much.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Sure is.

• 23:55Speaker 00

  Um, how go, how big are you guys into Halloween?

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Big.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Small.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  So that's why you're gonna go first.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  She was asking about costume party and if we were gonna be dressing up this year.

• 24:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Well, I'm definitely dressing up. My family loves Halloween. My kids love Halloween. And this year, actually, we're back to a family costume, which is amazing, because my eleven year old for the last few years have, has been like, you guys are lame. We don't, I don't wanna dress anything like what you're dressing. And this year, he wants to be Cartman from South Park.

• 24:30Speaker 00

  Oh, that's cool.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Which is a really cool one.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  So fun, fun for Justin and I. So I don't know who we're gonna be yet, but we'll be some, somewhere in that group. Which is great, because also we live in the mountains and it's cold, so just basically in like s- snow clothes.

• 24:43Speaker 00

  So if you, if you live in the mountains, does that mean that you don't get people trick or treating you?

• 24:47Speaker 01

  No, you do.

• 24:48Speaker 00

  Would they have to climb a fence or something?

• 24:49Speaker 01

  Well, it, we can't really trick or treat in our neighborhood. We live out in the middle of nowhere, nowhere. There's like a, not a neighbor close enough to trick or treat out there.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  Unless a bear's got a bucket of sweets or something.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Right, if we, if, you could knock on the cave and the bears throw out some berries. We go to other little suburban neighborhoods close by. I just mean like it's cold.

• 25:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:08Speaker 01

  Sometimes it can be snowing or we could be covered in snow at that point. You just never know. So sometimes your Halloween costume has to be a little bit weather dependent.

• 25:15Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  But then my little one's just gonna be Ghostface from Scream.

• 25:19Speaker 00

  Oh, nice.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  He's never seen the movies. He's just gonna be him.

• 25:22Speaker 00

  Oh, well, that's nice. John, you're, you're small, you said?

• 25:26Speaker 02

  Yes. Uh, so the, the trope, the easy one, is the John Cena costume. The jorts, the knee pads, the sneakers, the ball cap, the T-shirt, the double wristbands, the rally towel.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  And I promise.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  He says small. That's big. That's big.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  It is a one to one replica.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  So that's like, if I need an emergency costume.

• 25:48Speaker 00

  So you will dress up as John Cena?

• 25:49Speaker 02

  An emergency?

• 25:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:51Speaker 02

  If I need a costume?

• 25:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  It's fail safe.

• 25:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, of course. No, I get it. Listen, I'm not, I'm not questioning the motive, it's just.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  And to add to that, I, I think I keep that fail safe costume as like a crutch for not being motivated to dress up. I don't know. I just, uh.

• 26:08Speaker 00

  Because the way you said small suggested that you're anti, you're not anti.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  I'm not anti Halloween. So where, where I lack in like creativity and excitement to dress up in costumes. I make up for by being the candy house.

• 26:21Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  Are you the full candy bar house?

• 26:23Speaker 02

  Nope. I'm the king candy house.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Screw the full size ones. I get the ones that it's like, this is diabetes in a wrapper. Here, take this.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  That was my, when I was young and I was trick or treating, I knew the one house in my neighborhood that did the full candy bar, and I was lapping that house.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  So we, we live in a cool community where everybody, and there's, the people have had kids, we've had some new neighbors moving in that have kids, so now we have like good trick or treaters. The first time my wife experienced how I do trick or treat, she was like, what are you doing? There's way too much candy. I'm like, no, it's not enough candy.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  I love this.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  So we give king size of everything, like oversized everything.

• 27:04Speaker 00

  That's so good.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  And, uh, everyone is, everyone is quite excited. So what I, what I lack in costume enthusiasm, I make up for in reward for costume enthusiasm. So.

• 27:15Speaker 01

  Because there needs to be both. You have to have the people at home.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  I'm the role of the candy house.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  To make the trick or treating work.

• 27:21Speaker 00

  It, it really shows a true symbiosis of, of Halloween, doesn't it?

• 27:24Speaker 02

  If you're gonna put in, because it's something I don't wanna do, so if you're gonna put in for that costume, you guys would come and be rewarded with king size triumph.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  That's great.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  Be surprised. If my family knocks on your door on Halloween, we will fly in for that.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  I'll be there. Yeah.

• 27:40Speaker 00

  Um, yeah, because we were amazed, because we, we, we, we came over to LA years ago to film a show out there. And in the UK, I think we're moving towards your direction, but when we, we were in Studio City one Halloween.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  It's big. It is, especially in a creative market, like the costume designers that are out there, the effects people.

• 27:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, and even like you turn up at somebody's house and you look like you, you feel like you walked into a horror film. Like, one time, there was a guy that spent the whole night sat on the lawn in a zombie costume waiting to scare children. I said, this is wild, man. Like, in the UK, that would be arrests immediately, you know?

• 28:15Speaker 02

  It is like one of those borderline places, like the, the theme parks have like scary haunted houses.

• 28:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  And there's like people running after you with chainsaws.

• 28:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  Like that, where's the line here? Where are we drawing the line between?

• 28:29Speaker 00

  It's sort of where my kids go to this thing, we've got a thing, thing near us, and you get chased around and you go through these mazes and like people jump out at you.

• 28:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:35Speaker 00

  And I said, are there consent forms or like, at what point do you go actually? Like, where does this start? Do you know what I mean?

• 28:40Speaker 02

  I don't know. It's that, that's why, that's what makes me small on Halloween.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. No, I get it.

• 28:45Speaker 02

  But the candy house.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  The candy house.

• 28:47Speaker 00

  Uh, now, you're both action heroes, obviously, uh, but you're also both quite musical. Jess, vocally trained, aren't you? Incredible performer, right?

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Uh, you know, sometimes slightly a little shy.

• 29:00Speaker 00

  Are you? Oh, by the, don't worry, I'm not gonna ask you to do anything. Maybe let's just get that out of the way. Yeah, sorry. Sorry, sorry. I should make that clear. I'm not gonna get you to do anything now. Um, and John, obviously.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  That said, voice of an angel.

• 29:14Speaker 00

  Yeah?

• 29:15Speaker 02

  True.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  Are you one of these people at the karaoke? I don't know, with karaoke, sometimes you get people that are really preparing for it, or there's the, there's a, there's a type of person that occasionally you see who pretends to be casual. And they go, I don't know. I, I, I don't know. I'll, I'll give it a go. And then they absolutely smash out with it or something like that.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  That's not really me. I'm kind of shy around karaoke.

• 29:37Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 29:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know what it is. I feel like I shouldn't be. I'm like one of those theater nerds who should be wanting to be up there, like, singing my song and like giving a whole thing, but I always shy away from it.

• 29:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:49Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 29:50Speaker 00

  Um, John, you are, uh, you're into rap, obviously a rapper yourself. I've got to tell you, Bad Bad Man with Bumpy Knuckles.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 29:57Speaker 00

  Is an absolute banger.

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 30:00Speaker 00

  That is, because when I heard that you were gonna start to do rap, obviously, to be fully honest, there's a bit of cynicism there. You think, okay, this guy's moving across.

• 30:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, because we know somebody in one lane and that's all their capable of doing.

• 30:10Speaker 00

  Exactly, and you pigeonhole people.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  And they should have no other interest.

• 30:13Speaker 00

  Exactly. You, you pigeonhole them. And listen, you're talking to a guy that's putting together a little album of his own.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  Appreciate that. Nice.

• 30:19Speaker 00

  It's gonna, listen, it's, it's terrible, but it doesn't matter. I'm scratching, I'm scratching an itch.

• 30:24Speaker 01

  That's why it's your art. Let it out.

• 30:25Speaker 00

  Exactly. I'm doing it for myself, but, um, when I saw you did a tune, you did a tune with Bumpy Knucks, Freddie Fox himself. I was like, this guy's working with like proper guys, man. That is, that's a proper tune. That got played out in the club over here.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  That was, um, that was really the, the roots of like, how can? How can I get the hip hop community, like the rap community to understand that I'm, I'm trying to be authentic, I'm doing my best. And we got local artists from the New England scene and we kinda had Freddie Fox, Bumpy Knuckles, oversee the whole thing. And that, you know, with with enough resource, he can make anything happen.

• 31:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  The the through line and the ethos of it was to just make make an album, hopefully, that hip hop heads and rappers would be like, hmm, all right, I didn't see that one.

• 31:15Speaker 00

  That's exactly what happened.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 31:17Speaker 00

  I think that's exactly what happened and and uh.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  And of course, do it to scratch an itch and it's a passion project and that's uh, gosh, what a fun experience to have who have gone through. Platinum platinum rapper.

• 31:29Speaker 00

  It's incredible. It's great, man.

• 31:31Speaker 01

  The things I learn about John. I mean, I knew a little bit, but I I just didn't know all of it. It's still slowly trickling out all these interesting things.

• 31:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, but I mean, I know you're a proper hip hop head and and and it's also sort of your description of how you got into it, you know, your background and not being around a lot of people that were into it.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:51Speaker 00

  I that is genuinely the experience for, you know, in the UK, although UK rap is massive now, but back then, if you were into hip hop, you were the only guy that you knew that was into that. And then you'd start dressing like that. I remember I used to dress like Flavor Flav from Public Enemy.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:05Speaker 00

  You know, like I'd have the bright colored coats and like.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 00

  I remember I I stole a VW forty eight I am.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  So so this is when Public Enemy came out.

• 32:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:14Speaker 02

  Like eighty eight, eighty nine, yes.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  I stole a VW badge and started wearing that because I love the Beastie Boys. And in context, that makes sense. When you go with a load of friends that don't know about that stuff, just go, mate, we can't hang out with you.

• 32:26Speaker 02

  What are you doing?

• 32:28Speaker 01

  We have no friends anymore.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Literally the same trajectory.

• 32:30Speaker 00

  Right, yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, the advent of rap music.

• 32:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  Like the commercial exposure of rap.

• 32:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  In in the real commercial stuff like MC Hammer and also the real underground stuff that caught on like N W A.

• 32:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:44Speaker 02

  All of the looks were like, what's going on? What are you doing?

• 32:49Speaker 00

  Yep, mate, you can't come to the pub like that. Are you crazy? Uh, is it, Jess, you went to see Jay Z recently, right?

• 32:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, how was that?

• 32:56Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  How was that?

• 32:58Speaker 01

  Unbelievable.

• 32:59Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Unbelievable, this guy's catalog. You forget. And besides the hits, he's just, God, he's good. He's so, he's so smooth and he never misses a beat and he he he he's just such a lyricist.

• 33:14Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 33:16Speaker 02

  I I would say greatest of all time.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  I would agree.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  In my lens, I think.

• 33:19Speaker 00

  The it's interesting, it's interesting hearing his, I don't know if you've seen people talking about his writing process, but I I saw a thing with Rick Rubin.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  We haven't seen that yet, but I hear it's amazing.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, but but it is amazing. And and the other thing is that Jay Z never wrote anything down. So like they would play him a beat and he would sit there going and he'd work out the melodies of like, you know, the intonations of the thing and then he'd fill out the words and then go, I'm ready. After about like an hour and then he'd go in there, drop the verse, none of it, he's not got a notepad or anything, he's just.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Nothing.

• 33:50Speaker 00

  Figuring out and then going and doing it. So he's the only person he's ever seen do it like that. It's crazy. Whereas somebody like Eminem is, you know, constantly, it's pen to pad, like working out and all that.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  I don't think there's anybody that that works like that.

• 34:01Speaker 00

  I don't think so.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  Like Eminem and every other person.

• 34:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's that is incredible.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  That's how I write fire, you know what I mean? That's how I do it. Um, the film is is is, we talked about the action, we talked about the stunts, is also very, very funny.

• 34:21Speaker 00

  How do both of you approach kind of the comedy act? Because I think there's, there can be a tendency to overplay all of that, right? And like, Jess, how did you approach that? Is that something that just comes naturally to you?

• 34:31Speaker 01

  No, not for me. I mean, I'm I'm kind of like a silly, you know, silly person, but I'm not a comedian, not at all. So for me, the comedy space, that's probably where I feel like most vulnerable.

• 34:44Speaker 00

  Right.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  You know, when I'm working, I kind of feel like, oh, God, I don't know if this is, was this gonna be funny? Should I, should I do something crazy? You know, like, it was, for me, specifically on this project, kind of playing more of the straight man, more or less, and and and Arturo and Sam.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Arturo and Sam, for sure.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  And and, you know, some of our other cast members too, really batting around all that great improv and everything. So I had, I got to have a couple of great funny moments, but it wasn't relying on me. You know, it was really, they were really handling that section of it. It's kind of like good to stay in your lane. You need, you need the the grounded, straight man character to bounce off.

• 35:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're you're.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  That comedy stuff anyway.

• 35:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's it's it's your, sometimes it's, the reaction provides the comedy, right? It's a juxtaposition of what's going on with the other people involved in that scene and all of that.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel like you have to be careful to not get involved and go, and me too, like.

• 35:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  Funny because that's, then then you're you're you're missing the joke.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was showing restraint. I wanted to get on every one of their bits.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  They're so good and so funny and like the jokes they have, they tee up so many punchlines and uh, supposed to be a CIA agent, you gotta be the CIA agent and let them do their thing. I think it's very important in comedy to get comedians.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 36:08Speaker 02

  Uh, trying comedy when you don't have a funny mind.

• 36:12Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  With fluency in the space, essentially a Bumpy Knuckles to look over and say, you know, that's good, that's not so good, we're gonna workshop that a little more.

• 36:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  I think starting out with how we doing this comedy starts out with, let's get some funny people and let them rip.

• 36:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:25Speaker 02

  And a lot of times, the comedy is the collection of minds and the collections of faces that are on screen.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  The jokes land in a system of chaos when I'm trying to tell you something and you're not hearing it and then you try to tell me the exact same thing I was trying to tell you.

• 36:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 36:40Speaker 02

  So that's, that's a situation we can all relate to. And when you get real funny people to contribute their talents of like, I think this would, this would really smash and a director like Sam Hargrave was open to that, that's when you get magic.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Having everyone play along, because jokes into the ether, into the void, they can, they can work, jokes that everyone understands how to get.

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• 38:11Speaker 01

  Like playing it straight. You know, it's so, some of those things are so funny because Arturo is going like, I'm sure that was a part of the Geneva Convention.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  You know, like it's just genuinely straight, like he's not trying to be funny.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  Trust me, those those folks had so much more material that didn't make it.

• 38:26Speaker 00

  I really am.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  Because you still, you, that's, that's the gift and the curse with comedians, they got so many jokes. You do have to keep the fabric of the movie together.

• 38:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  Still have to make a movie. And their talents really shine when you do use that, those moments that they give you.

• 38:42Speaker 00

  It's it's kind of, um, it's kind of, I guess, you know, direction, edit, whatever, is that's the line you've got to walk because you've got two conflicting things. You, you know, you you've got the action and you want the tension of the story.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  Gotta keep the stakes, man.

• 38:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, exactly. And then the comedy is doing the opposite thing is is letting the air out. So it's, it's kind of figuring out what the balance of that is. The the scene in the ambulance where, you know, the the they're trying to do the the ethanol bomb or whatever it is and it drops in the back of the ambulance, it's so funny. And you're, what you just talked about is exactly, because you two are obviously seriously in the game.

• 39:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:22Speaker 00

  And they're just claps back to see what the hell is going on in the back of it. It's, I mean, it's it's a perfect example of what you're talking about.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  It's great physical comedy.

• 39:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Uh, between everybody in the back, between T, Arturo and Sam, like, the ability to know when to react, how long to, like, that thing breaks and they all look down like, and then hilarity ensues, you know?

• 39:45Speaker 00

  The couple of seconds before they act on what's happened is so good.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  There's also a balance with the action. A lot of, a lot of coordinators want to do more action. Sometimes you can overindex.

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Right.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  Fights can be too long and stuff can be too, too much. It's the the people with that as their fluency, like, man, I want to show you what I can do. Yeah, pal, but we need to, we need to keep you in the reins because the the grander picture, the movie needs to take center stage, you know?

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Honestly, we had a really good experience.

• 40:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  There there have been projects before where, you know, you you just didn't have as great of an experience or you just like felt like you were kind of like do your, doing your own thing.

• 40:25Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 40:25Speaker 01

  So you just didn't have maybe a lot of camaraderie or something, so that was not this. This was just laugh.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  This is a rare case.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, rare, rare case of just like people, nice people coming together, working hard, having a lot of fun and then excited to come back together.

• 40:38Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  And and happy, happy about the movie and excited to hang out again.

• 40:42Speaker 00

  Not feeling guilty about the fact you didn't keep in touch when you said you promised you would do.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  So that's right.

• 40:46Speaker 02

  I think I I honestly, this is just me, but I think everyone in the professional atmosphere knows how rigorous the business is.

• 40:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  And and I don't, I don't think that that is a requirement and maybe I'm looking at through rose colored glasses. Uh, us not seeing each other for a long time and then us immediately like firing up the group chat two days before we're all gonna get together is almost like, oh, man, if I if I only see my high school friends once every three years, we are on like maybe radio silence, but then two weeks before the thing, everyone's like, you fired up? I'm fired up.

• 41:19Speaker 00

  And then you're straight back into it.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  That's okay. I'd like to think there's a professional courtesy out there that that we understand how.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  How busy.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  Not only professional life, but like, you know, you got kids and everybody's got things that they, directions they need to go in. I think regardless, and I will say this is a rare case of like the Max Box gang, like that's us.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  I know we have character names, but it's just us on screen for like two hours.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:45Speaker 02

  Even if that that magic doesn't happen, you have to find joy in the material before you step on set.

• 41:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  And that's why I like reading the story is important. A lot of times it's important for people to get into character and know what choices to make. I personally need to make it my favorite book.

• 42:00Speaker 00

  Right.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Because I know my favorite book isn't over when they say, that's a wrap on Jessica, that's a wrap on John. We gotta go out and tell the world to see this thing. And if it's my, if it's my favorite book, if it was a good read.

• 42:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  And this conversation's easy.

• 42:12Speaker 00

  Got you.

• 42:13Speaker 02

  And when it's a book you can't get through in one sitting, ooh, this conversation's gonna be strained. You know, I come from a business where we're supposed to talk people into the building. So like, for me, this is old hat, like sitting down with you and trying to get people to see things.

• 42:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  Excited for stuff. It's because I love and I had tons of joy for what I did in the ring. So I want people to see the match because I want to get that exciting crap. You know, they're a part of the story. I need people in the building. And I also understand the value of that, the value of promotion. And I I totally respect the process of creators who just like the process.

• 42:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  That's where I come in. You hire me, I'm a promoter, man. I love sitting down and talking like that. You know what I'm saying?

• 42:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Everybody's got their own lane, just in, in my perspective. If I don't love the book, it's, you can, you can see.

• 42:59Speaker 00

  You can tell.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  It's a tough sell. So I just make sure I love the material. That way, you know, I respect everybody's process and maybe we, maybe people have their own different creative directions on set. Still means I could sit down with you and be like, this was my joy. This is why I think it's gonna be exciting to you.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  You know what I'm?

• 43:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Uh, right, we're gonna play a little game with you now.

• 43:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 43:19Speaker 00

  It's called misquoted. I'm gonna give you some stuff that you may or may not have said, and you've got to tell me whether you said it or not. Zero stakes.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  Uh, I like to lower the jeopardy.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, edge of my seat. Yeah, yeah.

• 43:34Speaker 00

  Okay, uh, here's the first thing. Did either of you say this? Okay.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  I really wanna start a movement, a shower eating movement.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  I think that'd have been me.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  I don't think it said that.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Did I say that?

• 43:50Speaker 00

  You did say that.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  A shower eating movement?

• 43:53Speaker 00

  A shower eating movement. I can continue the quote for you.

• 43:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

• 43:56Speaker 00

  I love to eat and drink in the shower. Shower appropriate items like cereal or yogurt or coffee or tea or popsicles.

• 44:07Speaker 02

  Do we have a date on this quote?

• 44:08Speaker 00

  Uh, the, actually.

• 44:10Speaker 02

  Two thousand twenty-six?

• 44:11Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, it's via, it's via TikTok. We found it. So that feels fairly recent.

• 44:18Speaker 00

  What, shower appropriate items?

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 00

  Yogurt.

• 44:25Speaker 01

  You know, you can, you can get yogurt a little.

• 44:27Speaker 00

  But that feels like it's gonna get compromised, doesn't it?

• 44:29Speaker 01

  And it's okay.

• 44:30Speaker 00

  Coffee?

• 44:31Speaker 01

  No problem. Done. Have you ever had a coffee in the shower? Obviously, that's a yes.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  So I have a, I have a pretty poor poker face and judging by my reaction, I'm pretty surprised that this is a thing.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  It's my thing. I'm trying to make a movement, obviously.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  And I'm trying to, I'm trying to absorb it curiously and understand, but you could ask me, have I ever had anything in the shower? And my answer would be no. I've never, I've never taken foodstuffs into the shower.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  You know why? That's because.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  Because I'm closed minded.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  No, no, because you, you do things one at a time, like a, like a sane human who doesn't have children who are ruining your life and time.

• 45:10Speaker 00

  Is this a, is this a time poor thing? Is this, is this what it is?

• 45:14Speaker 01

  I think so. I think that's how it started.

• 45:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  I was just getting busy and late. I was late. So I was like, what the fuck? I have to eat and shower. What do I do?

• 45:24Speaker 02

  Are you like, is it this number?

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Kind of. It's, I have, I have, I have a ledge. I have a ledge that can be further, far enough away from the spray.

• 45:34Speaker 00

  So you, so the food can be. Got you. But you're not under the, you're not under the watering cereal.

• 45:40Speaker 01

  No, I'm not.

• 45:41Speaker 00

  You're stepping aside from the.

• 45:42Speaker 01

  It's off to the side. Now it gets sprayed a little bit every now and again.

• 45:46Speaker 00

  Okay. But that's part of the fun.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  I'm not terribly proud of this. I'm not really trying to start a movement. I actually think this is highly embarrassing.

• 45:53Speaker 00

  Well, it's not embarrassing, but can I, can I give you a PR tip? I would, I would change it to eating next to the shower movement because what you've described.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Eating in the shower.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  When I read this, I thought, I thought.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  You were like.

• 46:06Speaker 00

  Jets here. Yeah, genuinely, that's what I thought.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, like mouth massage.

• 46:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then I thought water's running down your face into the.

• 46:14Speaker 01

  This makes a lot of sense. This is why, you know, no one's joined the movement yet.

• 46:18Speaker 00

  No.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  Because it's confusing.

• 46:19Speaker 02

  Listen, wait, we're still workshop in the idea?

• 46:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm open to it.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Give it a go. You know what's great in the shower?

• 46:26Speaker 00

  Go on.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  An orange.

• 46:30Speaker 01

  A citrus. Some kind of citrus.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  Some kind of citrus, yeah. But don't wash your face immediately afterwards.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  No, not immediately. Like a little hand, a little hand wash. You're right there.

• 46:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely. That's nice. That's really nice.

• 46:44Speaker 01

  It's so dumb. Don't do it, guys. Just, just eat breakfast at the table like normal.

• 46:47Speaker 00

  Okay, I'm gonna try. Would you try it, John? Yeah, exactly.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  How am I supposed to say I don't like it if I've never tried?

• 46:55Speaker 00

  I would go for a full curry.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  I would too.

• 46:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, with like a, a bread. Yeah, just go in.

• 47:02Speaker 02

  With bread?

• 47:04Speaker 00

  I think so.

• 47:05Speaker 01

  No, you can't bring bread in. Keep it out.

• 47:06Speaker 00

  No, I wouldn't do bread.

• 47:07Speaker 01

  You gotta draw a line.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  There's got to be some law.

• 47:09Speaker 00

  What am I, a savage? Um, okay. Here's your next one. Uh, did either of you say this? Whenever possible, choose kindness. It may make you believe in unicorns from time to time.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  That's me.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  That sounds like you.

• 47:22Speaker 00

  You did say that.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 47:23Speaker 00

  Uh, from an article called, titled, John Cena is a national treasure who must be protected.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  There you go.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  Written by the world's smallest nation of one person, my mom.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  She filed, she filed for sovereignty in two thousand seventeen and was granted her nationship in two thousand eighteen.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  That's nice, though, isn't it? Uh, whenever possible, choose kindness. I mean, that's, it's a great thing. It's, um.

• 47:49Speaker 01

  I agree too.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  It's, it's wicked. Uh, okay, here's your next one. Uh, did either of you say this? As a kid, I wanted to be Indiana Jones and dig for bones and find mummies.

• 47:58Speaker 01

  That was me.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  That's gotta be you.

• 48:00Speaker 01

  That's totally me.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  That's gotta be you.

• 48:03Speaker 00

  Is that still an ambition? Would you like to do something like that?

• 48:05Speaker 01

  I mean, I have a crazy fascination about all things like ancient civilization, Egyptology, all of that kind of treasure hunting and things.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  Do you buy into the theory that we're aliens and, uh?

• 48:18Speaker 01

  That we're aliens?

• 48:18Speaker 02

  Wait a second, wait a second. You gave half a theory. Like you get, you left.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then you just trailed off.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  Super open.

• 48:23Speaker 00

  Do you know what? I, I.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  You buy into the theory that we're aliens and, uh.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  That was sort of like, that was sort of like the break after your mom said kiss. You were waiting?

• 48:31Speaker 07

  Come from archaeology.

• 48:32Speaker 00

  Sorry, you know, can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? What was so bad at that? I bailed because I thought, I can't finish this. I've only got half a thought and you called me out on it. So, sorry, what I meant to say was that we're aliens and the, the pyramids and all of that stuff is a drop off point and all of that. That's, that, that's the, um.

• 48:51Speaker 01

  I have no, I have no idea about that.

• 48:53Speaker 00

  No, I don't know why. That was my follow up question. You just wanted to be Indiana Jones. Do you think we were originally from this planet, Jessica?

• 49:02Speaker 00

  What the hell was that? Okay. Uh, did you or did you not say this, either of you? I don't wanna talk about my weight.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  I probably said that at one point.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  Wait, is that it?

• 49:12Speaker 00

  That's it, sorry.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  That's it.

• 49:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:14Speaker 02

  No, I didn't.

• 49:15Speaker 00

  So I'm somebody at the end of one of my gigs. Um, neither of you said it, actually. It's related to something, uh, you said in Trainwreck, actually, your character says. Mark Wahlberg's like a hundred and fifty pounds. I'm two fifty lean. I look like Mark Wahlberg ate Mark Wahlberg.

• 49:31Speaker 02

  Hmm, that's right. So I openly talked about my weight.

• 49:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, you did, you did. Um, brilliant in that film, by the way.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you so much.

• 49:40Speaker 00

  Um, okay.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Hey, surround yourself with really funny people and let them rip.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  Thank you, Amy. Thank you, Judd. Thank you, everybody involved.

• 49:47Speaker 00

  I wish I had that level of, uh, sort of ability to deal with other people being funnier than me. I surround myself, I surround myself with, I would rather be involved in a piece of shit where I'm the lead.

• 50:00Speaker 00

  Than a great project where other people are being funnier than me. Fuck that. Uh, okay, here's your next one. Did, uh, either of you say this? Uh, for me, this is like looking at a bald eagle, holding hands with a Bengal tiger, walking down Fifth Avenue. This is very rare.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  He said that.

• 50:16Speaker 02

  Nope, I didn't say that. Neither of us said that.

• 50:18Speaker 00

  John, you said it.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  What?

• 50:20Speaker 01

  Knew it.

• 50:21Speaker 00

  You said it while looking at a Benafi pie. You said.

• 50:25Speaker 02

  I did. Hey, sometimes when you get in that Benafi state.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  That Benafi state of mind.

• 50:31Speaker 00

  I get it.

• 50:31Speaker 02

  I went into the unconscious flow state where you don't think, you just do.

• 50:36Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, here's your last one. You've done really, really well, by the way, so far. Uh, did you, did one of you say this or not? That's tricky to say. I'm so lame to them.

• 50:50Speaker 00

  It's a difficult one.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  I don't think I said it.

• 50:53Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't think I said it either.

• 50:56Speaker 00

  You did say.

• 50:56Speaker 01

  Oh, my kids?

• 50:57Speaker 00

  About your kids thinking you're the less cool parent.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. That's true. They do think that.

• 51:04Speaker 00

  Do they really think that?

• 51:05Speaker 01

  I think so.

• 51:05Speaker 00

  Or did they say that to wind you up?

• 51:07Speaker 01

  Because the dad is their, their guy.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  Hey, scored some points with this one. Scored some points with Matchbox.

• 51:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's true.

• 51:13Speaker 01

  I did.

• 51:13Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Badassery.

• 51:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  I did get some points for this one, yeah.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  You think a project they could enjoy?

• 51:19Speaker 01

  And a project they could actually see.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  That came to the premiere.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  See Mum kicking ass on screen.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  They liked it.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  So there you go.

• 51:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 00

  It's, it's difficult. Um, yeah, kids just don't think you're a parent. I don't, I don't think it's your job to, to be cool to your, to your kids. I actually, I think you should revel in just humiliating them.

• 51:36Speaker 01

  I do. I love it.

• 51:37Speaker 00

  Genuinely. I, I, I turn up to pick up my kids in school in really short shorts.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Man, my dad would get along so good with you.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  Is that the sort of thing you're?

• 51:46Speaker 02

  We got five. I grew up in a house of five boys, which is why when you said you had three, you're like, can you add? And your age ranges of seventeen, fifteen, twelve, in your bracket right now, yours, mine would be seventeen, fifteen, fourteen, twelve, ten. So imagine that at any dial on the, on the station. So, uh, yeah, man, I think my dad shared a lot of your philosophy. We had fun. We had fun. Yeah.

• 52:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, it, it, it toughens you up, right?

• 52:17Speaker 02

  It's, yes, yeah.

• 52:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  Gives you a layer of trauma.

• 52:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  You know, forty, fifty years to wear away. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 00

  Well, look, guys, it's been fantastic to talk to you. It's, um, congratulations on a great film. It's a proper, it's a, it's a proper, proper movie. Uh, so congratulations on that.

• 52:37Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  We love to end the podcast on a big moment. Uh, so we give you some options. Um, could you either give us some sort of, we're after kind of, I say exclusive, a dream you have, a hidden talent, big or small, something you haven't said publicly before, or the best advice you've been given. Something in those, any of those areas would be great. Or you can opt out and refuse. I mean, to be honest, you've been incredibly nice. We could just, we could just fade to black if you wanted to, like quite a somber way.

• 53:07Speaker 01

  No, I think we can answer something there.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  I, I love, uh, hitting the chest note of best advice.

• 53:11Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  Because, you know, um, my innermost thoughts may be entertaining, but maybe nobody has a takeaway, right? Having been in the people business and meeting a whole lot of people, that's one question I frequently ask. Two has come to mind. Um, the second more important. The first was show up early and outwork everybody. And I understand the mentorship I got that advice from. It was, it still is aspirational. There are also times where that doesn't apply. I think the second one. And I, I really kinda, man, what's the best advice you've ever been getting? Show up early, outwork everybody. It just sounds good, right?

• 53:51Speaker 02

  The second best piece of advice, I think is the best piece of advice I've ever been given. Be authentic. Be who you are. And that is a reoccurring theme from some folks that I look upwards to. It seemed like everybody I look upward to to ask like, what's the secret? Be authentic. And that is not strictly from creatives. It is from entrepreneurs. It is from managers of, of people, uh, top level thinkers, educated folks, like you, you name it. Be authentic because your failures are gonna happen. When they happen, you lose as you. So it's difficult to do this. You can have a takeaway, a teachable moment. And when you win, you succeed as you.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  And the, the get is that much greater because you know you did it. It's not you pretending to be something. So you, I, I, I think being authentic, that's a, that's the best piece of advice I've ever been given.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  That's great advice. It sounds simple, but it's actually incredibly difficult to pull off, right?

• 54:52Speaker 02

  All, yes, incredibly.

• 54:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  Because of imposter syndrome or like thinking for like, man, I, you know, I want to project this image of perfection.

• 54:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:00Speaker 02

  If you are just you and just do the best you can as being you, gosh, the, the bad times, you can get a learning experience from, and the good times, you, you can share with those you love. I think being authentic is, is good.

• 55:14Speaker 00

  What a beautiful way to end. Uh, thank you so much to both of you. You've genuinely been an absolute delight. Thank you. Please give it up for John Cena and Jessica Biel, everybody!

• 55:25Speaker 01

  Thank you, guys.

• 55:27Speaker 00

  Guys, amazing. Thank you.

• 55:28Speaker 02

  Thanks so much.

• 55:28Speaker 01

  Thank you. That was so fun.

• 55:30Speaker 00

  That was lovely. Thank you.

• 55:30Speaker 02

  I'm just gonna leave these in the bathroom real quick?

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 55:35Speaker 00

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• 56:11Speaker 00

  voice note or text us on oh seven seven three one six two three three five five. We can't promise good advice, but you might end up on the show. See you soon! Oh, shut up, Romesh.

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  Streaming October thirtieth on Paramount Plus. I'm Dexter Morgan. I've been killing killers for half my life. It gets to you. You're having a midlife crisis. I'm not ready for that. He's back. I'm older. I'm wiser. And sharper than ever. Things are gonna get messy. But if I can't believe in myself, I can't believe in anything. Dexter Resurrection, new season October thirtieth on the Paramount Plus Premium Plan.