New Teeth, Who Dis?

FOLLOW THE PIVOT PODCAST: MERCH | https://pivotpodcast.com YOUTUBE | https://www.youtube.com/thepivotpodcast INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/thepivot TWITTER | https://twitter.com/thepivot TIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@thepivot FACEBOOK | https://www.facebook.com/thepivotpodcast FOLLOW HAPPY DAD: https://www.instagram.com/happydad FIND HAPPY DAD: https://www.happydad.com/find The long anticipated reveal of Channing’s new teeth and the woman behind the magic is here! Watch the process of Channing going into his pre surgery appointment to getting fitted to the end results! The process is fascinating and leads into Ryan and Fred finding out more about the person tasked with this challenge. The guys invite the renowned Dr. Amira Ogunleye to sit down with them and share her success story from humble beginnings to being raised by her father to creating her own niche as one of the most sought after dentists in the world. Working with many well know A list celebrities and athletes, Dr. A has established herself as one of the most prominent women in the business. A true inspiration as a working mother and immigrant, Dr. A’s story is one we can all take away and learn from. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Channing Crowder?

  We're coming to get these old pretties fixed. Nervous as hell.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  It's gonna look so good. I'm so excited.

• 0:36Channing Crowder?

  I trust Dr. A. Dentist is all pain. Don't let the kids watch it. I'm gonna go ahead out.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  Look at everybody's pretty smile.

• 0:48Channing Crowder?

  Man, that ain't even smiling.

• 0:52Channing Crowder?

  He was scared like me.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  Pleasure to see you look distressed.

• 0:55Channing Crowder?

  He look worried. Say we're doing 10 across the top. You gotta shave them down and put the veneers on top so I get the little laughing gas. And then they numb everything, but I'm not gonna feel nothing. But it's gonna get out my mouth. Nobody be in your mouth.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  I never thought I'd see the day. Good luck today.

• 1:10Channing Crowder?

  Thank you.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  I had to like get him, drag him out of bed this morning. He was this close to be like, "Am I sure?"

• 1:19Channing Crowder?

  I was about to go finish.

• 1:20Speaker 02

  I'm sure.

• 1:21Speaker 03

  Well, thank God that she dragged you in here.

• 1:23Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, no.

• 1:23Speaker 03

  And they got the nerve to say we weren't with them shooting in the gym. You ready? You started?

• 1:28Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 1:28Speaker 03

  It should be a really smooth procedure. You're not gonna feel anything. You're gonna be completely numb. You, in two weeks, are gonna be brand new Janet.

• 1:36Speaker 04

  Just gonna numb you first.

• 1:38Channing Crowder?

  Okay.

• 1:40Channing Crowder?

  This is not my cup of tea. See what we do for y'all? We love you guys, okay? Just understand that.

• 1:49Channing Crowder?

  Know how people can like their dentist. When you ignore your teeth for 30 years, then you get a long process.

• 1:58Channing Crowder?

  Man, I seen them on the internet. And they strap around the back of your head. Never mind. It's too nasty.

• 2:08Speaker 03

  So I want you to see something, Channing. Can you take off the Gucci glasses real quick? If you were to have not come today, and this keeps wearing, you would be at your nerve chamber. So we've already broken through the enamel. Now we're talking about nerve damage. This is not cosmetic. This is medical. You ready?

• 2:23Speaker 05

  Yep. Is that laughing gas or something else?

• 2:26Speaker 06

  It's supposed to be laughing gas, but a lot of people say it's feel like they be drinking.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  You getting a little fiftier or not yet?

• 2:31Speaker 05

  Yeah, I can start fiddling now. I see y'all on the other side. I'm gonna trust Doc.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  I got you. I got you. Don't worry.

• 3:03Ryan Clark?

  Hey, y'all. Welcome to The Pivot. We got a little different thing. You know, one thing we want to do with our show is expand. We want to go beyond athletics. We want to go beyond the norm of what they see us as and bring in different people that could provide different perspective. Obviously, we got Freddie T. We got Channing Crowder. And I'm gonna say this really slow. Dr. Omira Ogunlaye. From the rest of the time, for the rest of the time, she's just Dr. A.

• 3:29Channing Crowder?

  We gotta get you.

• 3:29Ryan Clark?

  That's it. And she's already become bigger than her practice, bigger than just, you know, allowing people to be happy about their smiles because she's gonna do something that no one has ever attempted to do before. She's gonna fix Channing's teeth. And, you know, I'm sure, I'm sure Dr. A has accomplished many things in life. We'll get, you know, we'll get to her.

• 3:54Channing Crowder?

  So she's won, she's won awards, RC. Like, my teeth are bigger than an award?

• 4:00Ryan Clark?

  No, so, so, so what I'm trying to say is, this is gonna add to her humanitarian side, right? This is going, this is going to go into her activism. So like, if you go to her bio, it's gonna have, she's worked with, you know, the D-Wades and the Lebrons and so and so. And then it's gonna say, "Away from the office." And it's gonna be all the activism, all the community work she did. And then in bold letters with one of them asterisks, it's gonna say, "Fix Channing's teeth." Right, and the-

• 4:29Channing Crowder?

  Doc, is it that bad? I went, I went recently. I had to open up my mouth and y'all didn't even see the molars now, because y'all had-

• 4:36Ryan Clark?

  You said, you said you ain't been to dentist in six years, too.

• 4:39Channing Crowder?

  I don't go to the dentist, dentist scare me. I, I get root canals and never go back.

• 4:43Fred Taylor?

  This is perfect timing.

• 4:44Channing Crowder?

  Doc, is it that bad, Doc?

• 4:46Speaker 03

  It's not that bad, it's not that bad. But, we make miracles happen, so even if it was that bad, which is not that bad.

• 4:56Fred Taylor?

  Is that your slogan or something? Is that your slogan?

• 4:59Speaker 03

  No, actually it's not. It's not my slogan, my slogan is, um, about porcelain magic, but get ready for a brand new Channing.

• 5:06Ryan Clark?

  The thing that you're missing is, I didn't sign up for that. I, I didn't sign up for a brand new Channing. The, the Channing I signed up for made us all look better when he smiled. Uh, the Channing-

• 5:21Channing Crowder?

  You seem a little jealous.

• 5:22Ryan Clark?

  The, the Channing I signed up for, you know, allowed us to have these jokes, and so are you gonna do like a really good job? Is Channing gonna come back an entirely new person with this? Or can we keep a little bit of the guy we've grown to know and love?

• 5:35Speaker 03

  No, no, no, he's gonna be brand new. I mean, that's how people do, they get their teeth done, and I, I literally ask this question almost to every person in my chair. I'm always like, are you married, are you dating? And they're probably like, why is she asking this question? The reason I ask that question, and you know, they're like, uh, it's funny when the guys are like, I mean, something like that, you know how you guys do. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna ask, because I don't want you to get brand new with who you're with, because everybody, their whole vibe just changes. It's like, it's amazing how much a smile, like, affects people. Like, honestly, there was a guy who came in, he's actually an ex NFL player, he, he flew in, and he was with his wife, and she encouraged him to do his teeth.

• 6:20Speaker 03

  And he came in- Just like Channing.

• 6:23Channing Crowder?

  Asia, Asia paying for all this. Dr. Aiden know Asia paying for everything, cuz I ain't, yeah. I'm riding this thing. I done rode these out for thirty-eight years, coach.

• 6:32Fred Taylor?

  It's deeper than that, and she'll get into it.

• 6:34Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 6:35Fred Taylor?

  It's, it's deeper than just the cosmetic side of it.

• 6:38Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 6:38Speaker 03

  It, it is deeper, but, but Asia did, uh, reach out to me and say she wanted to do this as a gift for Channing. She did say that. But this particular, uh, wife brought him in, and I remember looking at him and not really, not thinking anything of him either way, you know, not having an opinion per se. And then we fixed his teeth. I mean, they were really in really severe condition. You know, we, we fixed his teeth, and I, to date, this is probably like my best case. When he came back for like a recall appointment, his whole swag, the way he, like, he walked in, and I was literally like, oh, well, who is that? Like, wow, you know?

• 7:19Speaker 03

  And his wife, this is so funny, his wife was like, I really wish I would have never, ever told you to fix his teeth, cuz this man, him takes selfies in the, in the, on the phone, he's walking around brand new. So it does happen. It's, it's probably gonna happen.

• 7:32Ryan Clark?

  Have you, did y'all ever watch that show The Swan back in the day? I'm, I'm a TV show.

• 7:36Channing Crowder?

  Black Swan?

• 7:36Ryan Clark?

  No, it was called The Swan, and what would happen was, they take these people that were like twos or ones, right? And, and then they.

• 7:44Channing Crowder?

  Listen, listen, don't even start that way, cuz we talking about me, motherfucker. Don't start that with a two and a one.

• 7:49Ryan Clark?

  No, what?

• 7:49Channing Crowder?

  I'm a strong seven now.

• 7:51Ryan Clark?

  Okay, that's fine, Channing.

• 7:52Speaker 03

  Not seven.

• 7:53Channing Crowder?

  I'm a strong seven.

• 7:54Fred Taylor?

  Strong, bro.

• 7:55Channing Crowder?

  I'm a seven point eight. That's what Ryan scared of.

• 7:58Ryan Clark?

  Channing.

• 7:59Channing Crowder?

  When I get into this nine.

• 8:00Ryan Clark?

  Channing, your personality, bro, your personality.

• 8:02Fred Taylor?

  And you got a pink bottom.

• 8:04Ryan Clark?

  Your personality.

• 8:05Fred Taylor?

  You got a pink bottom.

• 8:05Speaker 03

  When I get into this nine.

• 8:07Ryan Clark?

  I was trying to get to your point, Channing.

• 8:09Channing Crowder?

  My bad.

• 8:09Ryan Clark?

  You're gonna be a nine, bro. I'm gonna be so happy for you.

• 8:11Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 8:12Ryan Clark?

  It's gonna bring up the attractiveness level of our show so much, cuz you bring it down so far. Um, and so like, they, these, these people would go, and they'd be like ones and twos, right? But we all know, the way the world normally works, that if like you're a one or a two, your significant other usually is two.

• 8:28Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 8:28Ryan Clark?

  And so they bring them off, and they'd get like all this other stuff. They, you know, they get liposuction, they'd get their, their teeth fixed, they'd get plastic surgery, and then they'd walk them back out on stage in front of like their family that's from like, you know, bum fluff Arkansas, and they would be tens, I'm talking about freaking tens. And then every time they would revisit with the people after they got their makeover, the people were miserable. A lot of their relationships failed because you gotta remember, that person is still a two.

• 8:59Ryan Clark?

  No, for real, and you, and now they people acting brand new like you say, Doc.

• 9:02Speaker 03

  But here's the thing, this is big. You gotta be set in your relationship because you can't build a kingdom with someone who still craves attention from who?

• 9:15Speaker 03

  There you go. That's big. So people who come in who have, are solid in their relationship, this should just enhance you, you should feel positive about who you are, secure, confident, and that should only strengthen what you have. But unfortunately, and this is deeper than smiling, but unfortunately, there's too many people who still crave that attention from outside. So yes, when they get their teeth fixed, they get the lipo, they get all these things, it's like they forget the center, you know, they forget the core or the soul. So, I mean, it's, it's like this, what I, my career is really like this, because in one breath, you're changing people's life for the good, but there is always gonna be a superficial element to what you're doing, and that's just real talk. You know?

• 9:58Channing Crowder?

  And your, your story, we're gonna get into that, your story, what it is, and you know, saying, you're my dentist, like, you know, so we, we, we know each other. But I just gotta ask, when I get these veneers, when I really fix my mouth, right, is like, I'm scared that I'm gonna see the bite marks on Asia's butt and think that she's cheating on me because I'm used to my own bite marks.

• 10:20Ryan Clark?

  It is dull.

• 10:21Channing Crowder?

  So when I see these perfect bite marks, I'm gonna be like, who the hell bit your booty? Because you know, me and Asia go after. Like, so, do you have to, do you have any counselors that can help me with that, like the transition?

• 10:32Speaker 03

  You know, there, there's forensic psychology, dental forensics, who literally can find a killer by the bite marks because of their dental records. This is true.

• 10:41Channing Crowder?

  If I ever killed Asia, go on her butt.

• 10:45Fred Taylor?

  You know, you know what they right there. So Doc, you've mentioned forensics. He's talking about bite marks on the butt. You know, I heard a story and I don't know how true it is. You know, they call me Freaky Fred on this show. I don't know why.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:59Fred Taylor?

  I don't know why. But listen, we're not getting into that.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:02Fred Taylor?

  The story that I heard was a dentist can tell if a woman or a person has had oral sex before their visit. Is that true?

• 11:14Speaker 03

  That is accurate.

• 11:16Ryan Clark?

  That is absolutely disgusting.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  How? So, um, there are tiny blood vessels in the soft palate, which is the very-

• 11:26Fred Taylor?

  What is soft palate at? Like way back?

• 11:28Speaker 03

  Very way back. And so in the, in the event that there is a lot of force or action at the soft palate, the small blood vessels will have bursted and we will see the striations in the back of their mouth. Yes, we, we know what y'all been doing last night.

• 11:48Ryan Clark?

  So are you ever like, are you ever like, ooh, you got it in?

• 11:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 11:53Ryan Clark?

  We done created some sky nations.

• 11:58Ryan Clark?

  A guy like, if he ever go in, she like, ooh, girl.

• 12:01Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  I mean, I definitely, you know, noticed and I might like tap my assistant, like he moved light a little bit further back, you know, but no, I don't, that's their business. I don't say-

• 12:14Fred Taylor?

  Good thing for HIPAA, right?

• 12:15Speaker 03

  I don't say anything.

• 12:16Ryan Clark?

  Like, we started this way off base, obviously. But it, but it was cool because you had to kind of tell stories about, you know, some of the type of successful people you've had opportunities to work with. But you're, you're from Egypt originally, if, if I'm correct. And you came over here, I think you were two years old, but you were the single father.

• 12:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 12:34Ryan Clark?

  And it was three of you guys?

• 12:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:36Ryan Clark?

  What was that like? Can you even remember it though, from those times?

• 12:40Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah, I think that anyone-

• 12:45Speaker 03

  Who's been through real struggle. Um, you don't, that's not something you forget. You know, I, I came here with a single father. We didn't have anything, you know, he worked. Uh, two jobs, I remember him working at Popeyes. We went school shopping at Goodwill. That was normal for us. And, um, my dad just was so big on work ethic. And working hard, you know, so you don't struggle. So that is not something that I think I'll ever forget. You know, there were times my, my older brother who, who passed away, rest his soul. We would sleep on a, a back porch, you know, it had netting.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  And if it rained, I have, I have memories of him, you know, putting me on the inside so that I didn't feel the rain. And so I think that when people see success, right? They see a person and they, they think, oh, you know, I've, I've had people put comments and stuff and say, oh, you don't know what this is that, cause they see where you're at now, right? No one knows the behind the scenes struggles, what people have gone through, you know? What is motivating them? What is their purpose? So, um, yeah, that's not, that's not who I'm ever gonna forget, that little girl, because she's still in me. You know, and that's why I go so hard.

• 14:03Channing Crowder?

  Through your struggle, through your grind to be, to become what you are. Like, how hard is that to be a black and to be a woman? Like, those are, I'm gonna say it real, those are two knocks in business.

• 14:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, cause you deal with, you deal with sexism, obviously. And you deal with racism, you know? I'll never forget, I graduated from Howard University and I was, you know, a dentist and, you know, I was eager to practice dentistry. I was really young, um, but I had just really loved what I did. And I went to buy a practice and I thought I did all the, the checks, right? I said, you know, this is how much it's making a month, this is how much rent. I, I thought I did everything that you're supposed to do to purchase something, right? I didn't look at demographics, cause what did that mean to me? I was licensed, I was smart, you know, I had passed every single board, um, you know, I just, I never considered it.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  So I, I bought the practice from a young, white male. And shortly after, I would receive phone calls asking, um, is the new doctor black?

• 15:13Speaker 03

  And you know, my office manager at the time would say, uh, yes, but you know, she's this, and she would say all my accolades that I had, and I slowly were just losing patience. People were calling, asking for their files and asking for their charts. And I just remember sitting down, um, one day and just crying so hard. Because I felt like, damn, racism doesn't care about your degrees. They don't care about your status. They don't care about your skill. And that was a really, really hard experience for me, honestly.

• 15:47Ryan Clark?

  When you think about it now, and getting into the business and now being where you are, is a situation like that, when you have graduated from Howard and you feel like you have some of these accomplishments. And I used to always tell my, my son this and my, my kids this, I said, you can't look at life like it's a piece of paper. Right on a piece of paper, when you list, I have this degree, I've, I've gone through these things, I've gone through these games. If you handed people those pieces of paper and you didn't put color, you didn't put gender on them, they'd pick the person with the most check marks, right? And I think sometimes, when we start to accomplish things and we reach a certain level of success, that's how we think life works. When you started to get those calls, did it almost feel like you were that little girl sleeping on the porch again?

• 16:33Ryan Clark?

  That, that you hadn't accomplished those things, that all the work and the journey you thought you had been through is something that didn't matter to the world?

• 16:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:42Ryan Clark?

  And how did you deal with that, once you got those calls? What was the next step for you in understanding, this is how I make that practice successful?

• 16:49Channing Crowder?

  What was the pivot?

• 16:50Ryan Clark?

  What?

• 16:51Channing Crowder?

  From buying your first, figuring out how to do it. What was your pivot there?

• 16:55Speaker 03

  That's exactly what I felt, actually. I, I felt broken down, um, I felt poor in spirit, right? Really poor in spirit. But the thing about, um... Things like that that happen to people in their life is that I think that from that moment, it was you have to be excellent in everything you do because excellence is the best deterrent to racism and sexism because I learned that, okay, forget it. I don't care what anyone thinks. I have to be the best at whatever it is I'm doing. If it's being a dentist, if it's being a mentor. So that drove me to really want to

• 17:36Speaker 03

  achieve and it drove me to really just want to be at the top of my craft and it made me to the point now where I'm like, you know, they say the best success is if somebody wants what you have, be so good at it, whatever you do, be so good at it that they have to come to you to get it. And that's where I'm at now. So now I can choose. I choose who to say yes or no to because I have worked my ass off to be at the point where the level of what I'm providing is so great and I have so much compassion. I care so much. I pour so much of who I am in my work that my skin color, the texture of my hair, where I was

• 18:20Speaker 03

  born, that doesn't matter. If you want what I have, you still have to come to me, whether you like it or not.

• 18:25Fred Taylor?

  Does the 4% matter? 4% of the dentists in America are black.

• 18:30Speaker 03

  Only 4%.

• 18:31Fred Taylor?

  Does that motivate you? Because you speak a lot about representation and empowerment. Does that make you feel or think anything different, I guess?

• 18:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course. You know, I started a mentorship program because I always say, like, you can't be what you can't see. You got to be a reflection to people, right? So young kids see you guys as athletes and they aspire because they say, well, if you can do it, if Fred can do it, then so can I, right? So it's about being a reflection, right? It's about showing young brown and black girls who maybe did not grow up in the best situation. It's showing them that you know what, not only can you achieve this, but you can achieve it at an excellent level. And I just hope to impact, inspire, encourage, uplift, you know, whoever along the way who can see my path or my journey and say, well, you know, if she did it, so can I.

• 19:23Ryan Clark?

  You talk about mentorship, which I think is is large and is kind of, you know, I think you could do it in many different ways. Obviously, we all do it in in the the the personal fashion, right? The in-person fashion, but we also have a platform like this where we get a chance to do it. It's part of you speaking and getting opportunities and then getting opportunities to do this. What are the messages you try to convey when they see us? I don't want them to see the fact that I played football, right? I just want them to see success. I want them to see achievement. It may not necessarily be that that little girl that looks up to you wants to be a dentist or even can be a dentist. So what are some of the messages you try to convey from the way you started to now where you are?

• 20:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, it's it's so much bigger than, like you said, it's not about dentistry, right? It's about knowing your worth. It's about knowing that all those things that growing up, you know, we were raised to feel that made us so different. You know, I was one of few black girls in my class. I was one of the black girls where it was like, ooh, Ameerah's hot for a black girl. You know, all those comments that a lot of young black girls have experienced their whole life. Or, oh, you speak so proper. Like, what does that mean? You know what I mean? What like, would you say that to my my white friend? So all of those traits, what I'm what I'm hoping girls can understand, young, brown and black girls, is that all of those things that make us different actually end up really making us a commodity. It's what makes you stand out.

• 20:50Speaker 03

  It's what makes you rare. I tell my daughter all the time, every day she goes on her way to school. She walks out the door. I say, what are you? And she says, I'm multifaceted. I'm beautiful. I'm strong. I'm intelligent. Because I want her to understand that that's where it starts. The root of of who we are and what we can achieve really starts with what we really believe in ourselves. Because if if I don't believe it about me, how can you?

• 21:14Channing Crowder?

  And that thought, though, Ameerah, with uh, with Fred, like I said, four percent, four percent's a small number. Why are you the premier?

• 21:24Channing Crowder?

  Dentist in South Florida. Why? And it's not even like, I know your husband, you know, say, we'll get into that in a second. Like, I know those circles we're running, but even past that, when we talk about Dennis, your name always comes up. Like, why did you come from Howard in DC? You're in South Florida, and when you talk about Dennis of South Florida, your name always comes up. What separated you from the other millions of dentists, or 100,000 of dentists, or whatever it is that are down here?

• 21:54Fred Taylor?

  What's crazy is, they don't say, "She's the wife of a ex-football player," when they say that. It's always, "Dr. A," the dentists.

• 22:02Speaker 00

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• 22:33Channing Crowder?

  Yeah. Like, yeah. And I knew Wale. My wife knew Amirah. I didn't even know, like, I had to put the last name together, like, okay.

• 22:39Fred Taylor?

  A lot of times, you know, especially where we come from here, that's Ryan's wife, or, you know, whatever it might be.

• 22:46Channing Crowder?

  You know what?

• 22:46Fred Taylor?

  You have your own lane and your own identity.

• 22:48Channing Crowder?

  Minus your last name, what separates you? Because if you didn't, if you weren't exceptional, your last name wouldn't mean nothing.

• 22:57Ryan Clark?

  Channing, I told y'all, I was trying to see if Wale Feloren was married. I told y'all that.

• 23:03Fred Taylor?

  He was Googling his ass.

• 23:05Channing Crowder?

  When we said Wale, he thought it was the rapper.

• 23:08Ryan Clark?

  And I was like, dude, he's married, bro.

• 23:09Channing Crowder?

  He kept saying, "Wale is not married." And I was like, "No, Wale is my dude. He is married to Amirah."

• 23:16Ryan Clark?

  I was like, "No, he's not, bro. He just put the album out. He's still in these streets."

• 23:24Channing Crowder?

  But minus the last, like, what made you excel at what you do?

• 23:30Speaker 03

  So answer Fred's thing about being known for being me. And this is so important because when you are married to an NFL player, an NBA player, an entertainer, it is so easy to get caught up in the shadow of who they are, right? And build your worth, your sense of self, on that, right? We see it all the time, like Fred just said. I met someone and I went to shake her hand. And I'm not going to say who, but she said I'm so-and-so's wife. So I said, okay, what's your name? It's so easy as women to get lost in ourselves as a mother, as a wife.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  And then you put in the athlete and the celebrity and the lights. But I've always said you have to be so secure and so confident in who you are and have your own purpose that if someone leaves, they don't take you with them. And that is big because so often, I never, I think my husband has great accolades. I'm proud of him, you know, Pro Bowl. He's been to a Super Bowl. He played in the league how many years? But I've never led with that because I felt like I had a bigger purpose and I wanted to be known for my purpose, not his. Or I didn't want, you know, I wanted us to be strong together, but we're still, I'm still me, you know? I'm still Amira. I'm not Wale's wife. When someone meets me, hey, you're Wale's wife. Hi, I'm Amira. Nice to meet you.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  It's something I commonly do for that purpose. Your question about excellence and being...

• 25:06Channing Crowder?

  Separating yourself.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Separating yourself. So if you are not known for your work ethic, I don't believe you're really working. And one thing everyone who's close to me can say is, I work. Nothing was given to me. I didn't have any favors. When I first started, I was the first one in my office, the last one to leave. I worked, I worked, I worked on my brand, I worked on my craft. And so now, even when people talk about Wale, a lot of the relationships I've built and stuff, you know, are because of the work, you know? And you guys can relate to that. It's about the work. You could be the son of whatever legendary running back, but if you're not doing the work, if you're not good, then, oh, well, you're forgotten, you know?

• 25:51Speaker 03

  You gotta be excellent, or you're gonna be forgotten. It's that simple. So I think when I consider what separates me is that my ambition far exceeded my talent. That's for one. And my work ethic, it's something I don't compromise, ever.

• 26:07Fred Taylor?

  So is it because of where you started?

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 26:09Fred Taylor?

  Because you talk a lot about access. And you know, you talk a lot about culture and what we lack in our communities, you know, in the underprivileged communities. And I believe that's something that drives you. Am I right?

• 26:21Speaker 03

  It's absolutely right, because, you know, when, like I said before, you know, when you know what it's like to be down here, you know what it feels like, you work harder, you go harder. And then when you make it, you know, we talk about success. Success isn't money, right? Success isn't the cars we drive, success isn't the titles or the status. Success is, what is your legacy? Who are you impacting? What are you leaving behind inside of people? When people hear your name, what do they know you for? Who did you encourage? Who did you uplift? Whose life did you change? And so, yeah, when I talk about access to care, when I talk about helping communities, it's because when I'm long and gone,

• 27:03Speaker 03

  I don't want to be remembered for doing the best veneers in the world. I want to be remembered for impacting my people.

• 27:11Ryan Clark?

  When you say "my people," obviously, those of us who have sense understand Egyptian is African. Right, we know that. Like, I'm from New Orleans, which is huge on colorism. Because I'm from a place where they call it passé blanc, right? People want it to be white or lighter skinned. Because if you were lighter skinned, you got to do different things. There was a certain level of-

• 27:31Channing Crowder?

  Creole girls.

• 27:32Ryan Clark?

  Creole girls, right?

• 27:33Channing Crowder?

  They got that blonde, thick hair.

• 27:35Ryan Clark?

  Green eyes.

• 27:36Channing Crowder?

  And colorful eyes.

• 27:36Ryan Clark?

  They got green eyes, light skin.

• 27:38Channing Crowder?

  I crashed a car one time, leaving, what's that called? Drago's?

• 27:41Ryan Clark?

  Yup.

• 27:42Channing Crowder?

  Draco's?

• 27:42Ryan Clark?

  Drago's.

• 27:43Channing Crowder?

  So we had, we did the oyster thing. We eating oysters in my-

• 27:46Ryan Clark?

  You and a girl?

• 27:47Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, me and a girl, I went down there to train. When I was coming out of UF, went down there to train. And I hailed Jason Campbell, the quarterback from Auburn. Because he had an Armada and had to explore. And I wanted a bigger truck, because she was bad. And so we left Drago's, and I was showing out, but the roads were wet. So I went to yoke around the corner showing out, and I ran up and hit the pole. Boom, boom, boom, tore her whole bumper off. And she was like a professional woman, and she was all scared. I rolled up, thumping, thumping, thumping, thumping, thumping, and dropped off at her apartment. And I tried to get a kiss. I found out that a girl won't give you a goodnight kiss if you just crashed before you dropped her off.

• 28:32Channing Crowder?

  So those Creole girls will make you go crazy, so I'm sorry.

• 28:35Ryan Clark?

  No, that's, that's perfect segue, kind of, sort of. Uh, but my, my, my point was, what do you do so everyone understands who you are in totality? Because you are a woman, obviously in this business. But you're a black woman, and you've said that time and time again. I can be honest, I know. But I don't feel like every room you walk into, everybody goes, that's Dr. A, the black doctor, without you having told your story. So what is it that you set out every day, in the way that you do your work, but also in the way that you present yourself? So they know who you are, they know your foundation, they know your basis, and, and they know who you're trying to affect?

• 29:17Speaker 03

  It's something I've actually struggled with my whole life and career. Because like you said, uh, for some people, Egypt is, is Middle Eastern. What people don't realize is you can be Egyptian and be black. You could be Egyptian and be white. You could be from France and be black, and be France and be white. But because I've always been, you know, racially ambiguous, I could pass as other. I felt like I had an obligation and a duty to make sure I was very-

• 29:47Speaker 03

  Conscious and intentional about the words I use. When I say black woman, I say it because I could easily just say Egyptian. But I want to make it known because at the end of the day, and I've said this so many times, when the white man with the sheets come, we know we're talking about the KKK, it doesn't matter if I'm Egyptian, if my skin is brown, light skin, whatever, we're all on the same side. So it's important for me to go hard for the culture and go hard for black women because I know I actually get a little bit of a different treatment because someone might especially might be think I'm Hispanic. Whereas my colleague who has dark brown skin and is a black woman, she's not going to get that same treatment.

• 30:31Speaker 03

  So it's almost my way of announcing it. You know, my husband always said, my husband is dark skinned. You know, he's from Nigeria and he's like, you know, my wife is blacker than me. It's a joke we make because I wear it with pride because I know how much people are taking a back. I know the racism I've felt when someone is like, oh, you're black. Oh, you look so exotic. Like, what does that mean? You know, or like I said, you're, you know, you're hot for a black girl.

• 30:58Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, no, I just wanted to say like what you're saying made me think about my wife, your friend, my wife, we made it clear. Is there progression? Like you've been down here so long, you've been doing it like you're an activist, black woman in that empowerment. It is because the whole world's changing right now, Mira. Everything's changing, the progression, the LBDQ plus, like every like people are coming around to it. Do you feel as if now that respect, that respect you didn't feel maybe 10, 15 years ago? Is it, is it figuring itself out? Is the world figuring that out?

• 31:33Speaker 03

  So I think it has in many aspects. You know, I recently partnered with a company called Smile Direct Club. And I don't know if you know them, but they're a really big company. They're the aligners, kind of like an Invisalign. And this billion-dollar company could have partnered with any dentist that they wanted to. But they chose to specifically partner with a black woman, an HBCU grad, to provide access to care to underserved communities, to provide scholarships to black students, dental students. And that, that's a step in the right direction, you know? And I think that the more people who have a platform, big or small, or a voice, you

• 32:18Speaker 03

  know, if we're using it and we're trying to make change, you know, I always say, we gotta change this ratio, this 4%, you know? We have to do a better job. And for those of us who have been given even a small seat at the table, we gotta pull other people up with us, you know? We gotta make it so it isn't the norm to experience what we're experiencing or have over the years.

• 32:37Fred Taylor?

  Channing said he hadn't been to the dentist in six years. I know you don't reckon, I know you don't.

• 32:43Channing Crowder?

  I don't fool with dentists.

• 32:44Fred Taylor?

  I understand that, but.

• 32:45Channing Crowder?

  All they do is give you pain.

• 32:46Fred Taylor?

  I want to use Channing as an example because a lot of times in our community where we lack access, which is what you teaming up with Smile Direct is gonna push forward. It's bigger than not just having the perfect teeth from a cosmetic standpoint. I want to dig into the health part of it, you know, for people like Channing that sit at home and don't realize it's affecting other parts of their life and not just their dental health.

• 33:11Channing Crowder?

  Why you keep bringing my name up?

• 33:13Fred Taylor?

  Because you said you sat home for six years. You know, if you come down with gout or fat ass toe or some shit.

• 33:19Channing Crowder?

  I ain't getting no gout off no goddamn rotten tooth, friend.

• 33:22Fred Taylor?

  I don't know what the doctor gonna say.

• 33:24Channing Crowder?

  Can I get gout off a rotten tooth? This is talking about gout, dawg.

• 33:27Fred Taylor?

  Maybe it's not gout, it's something else.

• 33:29Speaker 03

  No, but you could die.

• 33:30Channing Crowder?

  I'm gonna die off a rotten tooth?

• 33:32Speaker 03

  Let me tell you, let me tell you, let me tell you guys something about access to care. I started doing a yearly Smile event for kids, and it was free cleanings and screenings. And what motivated me is there was a child in Washington DC, you can look up his story, eight years old, and he had just a cavity, and his mother could not afford to do the filling. And then it grew bigger into an abscess and an infection, and she still couldn't afford to do the root canal. And this infection spread to the little boy's brain, and he died.

• 34:08Channing Crowder?

  Damn Doc.

• 34:09Ryan Clark?

  You didn't know that yet?

• 34:11Speaker 03

  I'm telling you, access to care. So imagine now, if we provide access to care for communities like that. It could have saved his life. So for us, I mean, we're doing such a small part, but we're screening these kids. If we see anything that looks like that and their family can't afford to have it done, we're gonna do it for free. Because we don't want something like that to happen. So yes, it can turn into something death. Dental disease is linked to heart disease, to diabetes. No, the average person doesn't know. They think, oh, you know, I got a bad tooth. It'll just, it'll just come out. But no.

• 34:45Channing Crowder?

  Doc, do I have, do I have any deadly teeth in my mouth?

• 34:49Speaker 03

  No, you're not gonna die.

• 34:50Channing Crowder?

  Oh, but do I have any deadly teeth in my mouth?

• 34:53Speaker 03

  No, you do not, you do not.

• 34:54Ryan Clark?

  Dr. A, if you could look back to your, your younger self, to some of those stories you told us about your family, the, the shopping at Goodwill, the, the sleeping on the porch. If you could look back to your younger self and give her something to stay strong. Tell her something to make her keep fighting. And say, you know what? One day, this is what you could be. Because when you're talking to your younger self, you're talking to millions of, not only black women, women across the world. What would that story? What would that speech? What would those words of wisdom be?

• 35:34Speaker 03

  God will take you from waiting on it to walking in it. It is so important for anyone who is struggling and whether that be, you know, the struggles that I was going through, whether that be a relationship, whatever it is. It's like, I would tell my younger self, you're so much stronger than you know. And keep praying and keep working. And keep faith. Faith is so important. I would tell her, know your value. You know, something wanting you, you know, it feeds the ego. But when something values you, that's what feeds your soul. We can edit our photos all day, right?

• 36:18Speaker 03

  Can't edit our soul. Make sure your energy's right, you know, pray. People always say you work so hard, you know. Yes, I work hard, but I pray harder. I do, I really, um, I do. And I would be nothing without that. And I would tell young girls who are experiencing these things to just have faith. Look at other people who've done it. If they can do it, so can you. You know, pray, work hard, keep focused, don't listen to the naysayers. How many people told me I couldn't, wouldn't be at this level? Don't believe it, it's not true. I wish I had more confidence as a little girl. That's what I would tell them.

• 36:58Fred Taylor?

  Doc, I wanna, I wanna take a moment and, uh, close this thing out. That's usually RC's job.

• 37:03Channing Crowder?

  Thank you, Freddie.

• 37:04Fred Taylor?

  But I really wanna know if chanting is a real charity case. And then we can shut it down after that. I just wanna know.

• 37:14Channing Crowder?

  I, I just, just Doc, like, I've been getting hell about my teeth. Listen, let me just tell you.

• 37:19Fred Taylor?

  Can we put it on camera?

• 37:20Channing Crowder?

  They've called, they've called me raccoon teeth. They've called me all kinda prison mouth. They've called me Jangleine, can't get right mouth. Like, I, I got all the jokes. I actually throw the jokes back on myself. When he says "they," that's not us two, that's just throughout his life. No, it's gon', it's gonna be a testament to your work.

• 37:40Speaker 03

  Oh, but this is all I'm gonna say. Let the haters talk and watch what's gonna happen in a couple of weeks. That's all I'm gonna say.

• 37:48Channing Crowder?

  That's what's all gonna happen. And one more thing. What's that skrilla, what's that skrilla that I can beat up in the back? What is it called? I didn't even name it. Was it skrilla, skrilla?

• 37:59Speaker 03

  The soft palate?

• 38:00Channing Crowder?

  The skrilla veins.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  What?

• 38:02Channing Crowder?

  You said something about scro, scrosum veins?

• 38:04Speaker 03

  No, no, no, I didn't say anything about the scrosum or scrotum. And I don't know what you're thinking right now. I, all I talked about was the soft palate. That's it.

• 38:12Channing Crowder?

  You're embarrassing. You're embarrassing to our guests, man. I'm messing with you.

• 38:17Ryan Clark?

  Here's what I know. I just want to say this, it doesn't matter who you're married to, you stand alone. What you've accomplished, doesn't need a spouse, it doesn't need someone to walk side by side with. I'm sure it's better to have that, but if you had to walk in the space by yourself, it'd be you and God and you'd be okay. And so we're so grateful that you joined our show and you gave us an opportunity to have a different conversation.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  Thank you, thank you so much for having me. Thank you.

• 38:42Channing Crowder?

  That's why you're a closer, baby. I'll see you in a little bit.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  Walk around, Asia. Don't smile yet. And...

• 38:58Speaker 02

  Oh, wow, yay, it looks so good.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  Don't get brand new with your wife.

• 39:04Channing Crowder?

  I'm in these streets.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  Me and her have a deal, if you act up, I'm gonna pretend like we're doing a follow-up and I'm breaking all the law.

• 39:12Channing Crowder?

  It's wild.

• 39:14Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 39:16Speaker 03

  You're welcome, thank you.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  You wouldn't do it with anybody else.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  Now we're gonna see what Fred and Ryan have to say now.

• 39:21Channing Crowder?

  They ain't gonna talk shit.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  Well, thank you for doing this, I know he wouldn't have done it if I didn't want it, so he's...

• 39:28Speaker 03

  Thank your wife.

• 39:28Channing Crowder?

  Yes.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  Heck of a gift.

• 39:30Channing Crowder?

  Thank you so much.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  Y'all suck, girl.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Girl, you did that, yes, it looked good.

• 39:36Speaker 03

  Any issues you have, call me and I will see you next week for talk, you look great.

• 39:40Channing Crowder?

  Thank you.

• 39:41Speaker 03

  You look so good, I don't even like you, you look so good.

• 39:44Channing Crowder?

  Thank you so much.

• 39:45Speaker 02

  Thank you, Doc, that's the best money I have ever spent.

• 39:50Channing Crowder?

  If you like it, I love it.

• 39:53Channing Crowder?

  Dr. A is awesome. We knew she was great, we seen her work, but now being a part of it, you know, having them, having them put in and having her dental genius a part of our life, Dr. A, we just appreciate it and we love you, love your family and we're just happy we could utilize your services.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Yes, absolutely, and I've been stalking her page for a long time because I knew I was plotting on Channing to get his teeth done. And just seeing all her work and seeing how she interacts with her clients and as big of a guy he is, needing all the pain meds that he needs, make sure he's comfortable. She listened to us and made it happen and his smile looks amazing and I'm so happy, I'm so excited for his growth and his new smile.

• 41:02Speaker 09

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