BeastMode Super Bowl Week

FOLLOW THE PIVOT PODCAST: MERCH | https://pivotpodcast.com YOUTUBE | https://www.youtube.com/thepivotpodcast INSTAGRAM | https://instagram.com/thepivot TWITTER | https://twitter.com/thepivot TIKTOK | https://tiktok.com/@thepivot FACEBOOK | https://www.facebook.com/thepivotpodcast FOLLOW HAPPY DAD: https://www.instagram.com/happydad FIND HAPPY DAD: https://www.happydad.com/find You asked and we delivered- It’s Super Bowl week and we are in Beast Mode. An exclusive sit down discussing the highs and lows with Marshawn Lynch. Marshawn joins Fred, Channing and Ryan this week on The Pivot for an in-depths and wide open conversation ranging from childhood to becoming International BeastMode. Talking off the field troubles, to family life, to infamous media battles to his running back fame to winning a Super Bowl...the discussion spans over a decade into reflection and perception of who the real Marshawn Lynch vs what the world sees. Not holding back, Fred, leads the conversation and gets right into it asking Marshawn how he has been able to parlay his story and career, the good and bad, into global stardom. “Most Athletes wouldn’t part with a check to be themselves but the path you’ve taken is just that..” He explains that loyalty is the most expensive thing he’s received in his life and opens up on how and why he treated the media a certain way while also detailing the biggest Pivots he’s had to make. Ryan asks about his approach to brands and controversial answers he’s given wondering if it was all part of the plan to distinguish himself in the light he has. Asking the tough questions and admiring his journey, the guys sit back and allow Marshawn to tell his side of things and answer the questions we've all wanted to know over the years. Marshawn opens up about the one thing that truly made him second guess his actions and that was the short time he didn’t speak with his mom, he realized how his life was off and that being a Mama’s boy is him inside and out. Channing closes out the show sharing a story of how him and Marshawn would hang nights before games but then go at it hard on the field every Sunday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  The thing that was great about him though, is like, no matter what, what was happening on the field, his personality was always the same. Like, you was never beefing, it was always just about the ball. You know what I'm saying?

• 0:41Channing Crowder?

  We would, I'd talk about it. But we would go out, we would, we had it night before. And before the game, we warm up, we come give each other that. People like, "Bro, see, after the game." And we'd go out that bit like we don't know each other.

• 0:54Ryan Clark?

  That's how it's supposed to be.

• 0:55Channing Crowder?

  And after the game, we'll get your love.

• 1:20Ryan Clark?

  Well, what's happening, man? We back on the pivot, and I see it, you know? We got a dog. We got a dog. We seen, so we seen, we seen a lot of cats from the West Coast reinvent themselves over and over again. Dr. Dre has done it, Snoop Dogg has done it. But the dude we got today has done it in a, in a different way. And, you know, I'm a little nervous sitting over here, Shannon. I'm gonna be honest, because... That's how he has you on game day. Because it's two of the best I ever played. It's two of the best I ever played. So I'm gonna go and hand it to Freddie T and let him introduce our guest.

• 1:52Fred Taylor?

  He don't need no introduction. What's happening, man? He really don't, international beast mode. What's up, baby? Man, I can't call it. But, but, but since you asked me to do it, I want to do it the right way.

• 2:03Ryan Clark?

  Do it the right way.

• 2:03Fred Taylor?

  10,000 yard rush club. People, people forget that. But that's, that's elite category, 10,000 yard rush club. Super Bowl champ and potential Hall of Famer. God damn, bro. We caught up with you.

• 2:18Speaker 04

  That's alright.

• 2:19Fred Taylor?

  That's alright, yeah.

• 2:21Speaker 04

  It was just due time.

• 2:22Fred Taylor?

  It was due time, but my question to you though is uh,

• 2:25Speaker 04

  It was due time.

• 2:26Fred Taylor?

  Because, because you know when people know who you are and people know what you stand for and we love it. A lot of athletes are afraid to sacrifice their realness for a check or fame or some of that shit.

• 2:39Speaker 04

  You ain't wasting no time, bro.

• 2:40Fred Taylor?

  I ain't wasting no time, bro. Cause the people love you. But the people love you and ironically, the corporate people love you. Subway love you.

• 2:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, how that work?

• 2:49Fred Taylor?

  Everybody love you, bro.

• 2:50Speaker 04

  How that work?

• 2:51Fred Taylor?

  How?

• 2:52Channing Crowder?

  How did that work, Sean? How did that work?

• 2:55Speaker 04

  Man, I, shit, man, I can't lie to you. I don't know. I don't know, but I'ma tell you this. I'ma run that until the well dry up, straight up. But I really, I really though, you feel me? I, you know, I niggas like to take a lot of credit, like you feel what I'm saying though, but I had, I had some uh, I had some,

• 3:17Speaker 04

  some great leaders early on in my career that, you feel me? I feel put me in a position of learning.

• 3:28Speaker 04

  And I don't think I was really getting it early on to the fact where like I, I just couldn't get, I couldn't get right.

• 3:35Fred Taylor?

  Can't get right?

• 3:36Speaker 04

  I couldn't get right, you feel me? And no matter how many times I done up, it was always genuine when they came to me and hollered at me about the shit that I had going on. You feel me? It wasn't nothing that was going on on the field, you feel me though? It was more the off the field shit. And no matter what, them niggas earned they back on me, so it showed me something. It showed me something that you money can't buy and that was loyalty. And no matter, like I said, no matter what, they always came and they always was giving me that ism. So little did I know, I was really picking up on that shit. So then when it was time to pivot. All of that shit just made sense.

• 4:15Fred Taylor?

  Right, right.

• 4:16Speaker 04

  And then it was just like shit, I'm just rocking with it now.

• 4:19Fred Taylor?

  And we've all been through it, right? I think we've had this conversation before, especially when you're in high school. You know, you're young, you really don't understand it, and you're doing young shit. And though you have these guys back in your hometown at the crib, they pushing you this way. To steer clear and do what's right, right? And you have those veterans and those guys in the NFL, they see something in you that you don't see in yourself.

• 4:43Speaker 04

  Right.

• 4:44Fred Taylor?

  But if you pass through the bullshit, you know, and buy enough time for yourself, you can pivot and get to this point. But bro, I haven't seen anybody parlay what they've done. I'm serious, bro. I've been waiting on this. The people been waiting on this. I've been waiting on this. You see how much I'm talking?

• 5:03Speaker 04

  That's a blessing, bro.

• 5:04Fred Taylor?

  I don't talk.

• 5:08Ryan Clark?

  Sean.

• 5:08Fred Taylor?

  I appreciate it.

• 5:09Ryan Clark?

  We been at this a month. This the most Freddie T didn't talk in one minute that I've ever seen, bro.

• 5:14Speaker 04

  Well, look, man, I hope he continue to, because he here to soak up the game, man. I'm here to get the ism. You feel me? He's been somebody who I've been watching, you feel me, since I was a jit. So you feel me to be sitting, you feel me, across from me, then he run down, you feel me, he run down my numbers and shit, and it's like, it leaked, you feel me, the whole company, and it's like, damn.

• 5:35Fred Taylor?

  It's real.

• 5:36Speaker 04

  I'm looking at, you feel me, at greatness. I mean, it's all through the room and hella shit, but you know, I'm talking about, shit, I'm tackling Russian attack on Madden. Ain't nobody tackling Freddie T man all the time, man.

• 5:49Ryan Clark?

  Sean, I ain't gonna lie, I was out there, and I wasn't tackling him either. We talk about it all the time, man. I tell him, like, he gave me more trouble than any running back I ever played. And I put you in that same category, man. And like, it's crazy, sitting here, and you know, having these conversations. And in my opinion, both of you dudes are two Hall of Fame running backs. Like, I don't think that's a, that's a question. I don't get a vote. When you look at, though, where you started your career, like, I was making the joke before we all started, right? I was like, am I liming? I was like, I was like, am I lying man? Like, I swear, if I had money, I'd take him to the Sizzler. You know what I'm saying? When you look at who Marshawn Lynch was at that point,

• 6:33Ryan Clark?

  and now where you are, you're a media mogul, man. Like, you're actually a media darling. You got to go to Super Bowl Media Day and say, over and over again, "I'm just here so I don't get fined." Was there any fear in doing that? Or was you was like, "That's just who I am"?

• 6:53Speaker 04

  Nah, it wasn't no fear. It was more, you feel me, at the time, you feel me, what was going on? It was a lot of shit. In most situations, the best thing to do is dumb it down. And what I made it about was I was making it about the game. And they wanted to make it about a media frenzy type situation. So you got two people who see two different things and two different goals at the end of the day. While they trying to make their, you know, their networks and all the other shit, you know, happy here to win the Super Bowl. Like, all that other shit is irrelevant for me, though. You feel what I'm talking about? But it wasn't like, if you looking at that situation,

• 7:35Speaker 04

  it's like, "Oh, he doing that for, just to be different or to stand out, this, that, and the third." But if you look back, I been doing that shit. So it ain't like it was nothing different or nothing new for me. So to answer your question, just who I was, just who I am.

• 7:55Ryan Clark?

  I know you for years. I tell some stories, I'ma tell stories.

• 7:58Speaker 04

  You always got some stories.

• 7:59Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, I know I got stories. So I'ma tell some stories a little later on about, you know, saying that the stuff that me and Sean did and the fact that players can hang out the night before the game. I don't know if y'all did it. Y'all can add on when I do tell the story.

• 8:13Channing Crowder?

  Chan, I ain't even gonna lie, your boy was asleep.

• 8:15Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, yeah, you was a little square.

• 8:18Channing Crowder?

  A little bit square, I love it now, he a little bit square. But you my dog, bro. I ain't tripping, I respect it, I respect it. But Sean, that's the funny-

• 8:23Speaker 04

  Cause he out there quarterbacking everything.

• 8:25Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, but right, you can still, you can still party and go out there. Cover four, cover three, that shit.

• 8:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, nigga, that's true, man.

• 8:31Channing Crowder?

  Hey, Shane, Shane, do I have to go to Tootsie's in order to be a good football player or? You know what, you might have been a Hall of Famer if you ballin' in front, standing out.

• 8:38Speaker 04

  You gotta be a dog to go to Tootsie's and then wake up and go and do it anymore.

• 8:42Channing Crowder?

  But Sean, this the thing, it's funny, you was just talking about, you was just talking about that I'm here cause I don't get fined, I'm here cause I don't get fined, but that was strategic. And when you did it, I ain't even talk to you about it, but when you did it, I knew you knew what you was doing. That's the one thing, like, people, you know what I'm saying, and even that look like, like Fred's first question about you not changing, not trying to reinvent yourself and nothing like that, just being you. All this stuff is strategic that you do.

• 9:10Speaker 04

  Damn, and you know what, bro? From the outside looking in, you feel me, it could seem that way. But then when, you feel me, I'm a running back, so my thing is, you gotta be ready to react. You ain't gonna get that hole every time, so when you don't got that, what you gonna do? You gotta improvise, you gotta make your shit work in order to get to where you need to go to. So, when that last shit pop off and it's like, everybody try to go, they, oh, what's this, what's that? You feel me, they making it bigger than what it is, and at the same time, my mind just, I'm play football, bro. Like, can we just, can we get out? I'm ready, I'm ready to go hit something, you feel what I'm talking about?

• 9:51Speaker 04

  So, you know, on the way to those media situations, especially after the first one, you know, everybody sitting all like, what you gonna do, what you gonna do, like, you, oh, like, and it's like, damn, like, be cool, bro. I'ma just be me. Oh, okay, okay, okay, and everybody sitting on the edge of their seat waiting to see what I do type shit, and it's like- Y'all know what the I'm gonna do. I'm predictable. I'm gonna be me.

• 10:16Fred Taylor?

  And and that's the crazy thing, right? When you especially when you're dealing with the NFL. Right? There are so many rules and and and guidelines in place where guys typically aren't allowed to have fun and be themselves and be genuine. You know, and the people on the outside, they see it, right? It's a big business. And everything that we got going on in NFL today, especially with the the the coaching situation, the hiring or the lack of hiring of the black coaches. You know, people are really frowning upon, you know, what the NFL it is like the the not fun league. Even though they try and do things to market it up. You've always stood, you know, stood for what you believe in, no matter what this sacrifice or the consequences were.

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Again, it was some big ones, man. God damn.

• 11:04Fred Taylor?

  And I think most guys should be the same way. You know, Brian Flores, he's giving up potentially never coaching again.

• 11:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:12Fred Taylor?

  To talk about the discrimination and the the inequality when it comes to black hiring and stuff. What's your take on that?

• 11:19Speaker 04

  Uh, I mean, like you said, with this situation being that, you know, come down to, you know, him not being able to coach again. And I mean, maybe in the NFL, but you know how like how I see it, everybody looking for their opportunity to capitalize on it. So I believe somebody gonna take the opportunity into giving that man a job just based off of his situation and what he went through with knowing that he just had an unfair advantage of rip.

• 11:46Fred Taylor?

  Right, right.

• 11:47Speaker 04

  So I I believe that, you know, with the world that we live in, you know, everybody is looking for, you know, that opportunity to give somebody that second chance and or, oh, well, if I bring him in and didn't do good, look, I'm I'm the hero who went and did X, Y, and Z. And then, you know, if not, oh, well, oh, you see why they went and did what they did type shit, you know, in order to cover their tracks and hella shit. But when you talk about strategic moves and some more shit, I see this being an opportunity for somebody to make a move and, uh, you know, either clean up their situation or expose it for what it really worth.

• 12:22Ryan Clark?

  And listen to you talk about strategic, right? When we think about strategic moves, there's there's we been through it, Sean. There's no one more strategic than the NFL.

• 12:32Fred Taylor?

  Damn right.

• 12:33Ryan Clark?

  You feel me? So if I'm, so if I'm the Houston Texans, if I'm some of these teams who don't have a coach, bottom line, Brian Flores could coach football. Right? And so he's basically saying that the NFL won't allow me, a, a black coach, to be the head coach of a football team. They're conspiring against me. A strategic move to me though, I'm a Houston Texans, I'm gonna hire Brian Flores. One, because I believe he's a good coach. Two, because the rest of the owners, right, the rest of these teams could go, oh, well shit, what you gonna do, Brian? You got hired. So clearly there isn't racism. Clearly there isn't an issue. And what we know from a team like the Houston Texans, if that junk ain't working out year one,

• 13:18Ryan Clark?

  I can fire you because my bank's big enough to pay you David Cully. You know what I'm saying? So when you look at that situation, what's the, what's the chess move for black head coaches?

• 13:30Fred Taylor?

  You said the chess move?

• 13:31Ryan Clark?

  Because it gotta be a chess move, right? Because checkers ain't working for us. We've been playing checkers for years. Because think about this, the thing you did was made chess moves.

• 13:39Channing Crowder?

  RC, the Rooney Rule was oh three, right?

• 13:42Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 13:42Ryan Clark?

  Yup.

• 13:43Channing Crowder?

  Oh three.

• 13:43Fred Taylor?

  Oh three.

• 13:44Channing Crowder?

  It's 2022?

• 13:45Ryan Clark?

  16 coaches. What's that? Is that, Fred, are you gonna do the math? Out of 120?

• 13:51Fred Taylor?

  You know, I [__] up the math, right? I'm gonna [__] up the math.

• 13:53Ryan Clark?

  We know Fred can't do math.

• 13:55Fred Taylor?

  What I do know, I'm, I'll do the math. What I do know, currently, sitting here. Bingo. But as we sit here today, it's one head coach and three minority coaches. I know that [__] much.

• 14:09Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 14:09Fred Taylor?

  You, you, carry on.

• 14:10Channing Crowder?

  But I'm saying nineteen, nineteen years later, the Rooney Rule doesn't work though.

• 14:15Ryan Clark?

  The Rooney Rule, the Rooney Rule is giving the NFL, and it's also giving white owners, an opportunity to say, at least I abided by the regulations. But when we look at what Brian Flores is alleging. How do you prove that racism is involved? Right? Because, because the thing is this. I'm comfortable with you. I'm comfortable with Marshawn. I'm comfortable with Fred. I'm different than all of y'all. But I'm comfortable with y'all because I understand it. Right? So the same way where when I'm in an interview with Brian Dayball, right, and I'm the New York Giants and I've been around for 100 years and I've never had a black coach. Think about that, bro.

• 14:57Ryan Clark?

  100 freaking years and they've never had a black coach.

• 15:01Fred Taylor?

  It's, it's, it's hard to prove it. You know, straight out of the gate, it's definitely hard to prove it. But I think those text message exchanges between Brian and Coach Belichick.

• 15:10Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, that's a little different.

• 15:11Fred Taylor?

  You know, I mean, it clearly shows that, um, I don't know if they call it tampering, but it shows that, you know, the Giants were just attempting to bring him in so they can checklist and get the Rooney Rule out the way, right?

• 15:25Ryan Clark?

  Say we, I mean, gave him an interview.

• 15:27Fred Taylor?

  Exactly. So with that, I mean, that, that's, that's, that's an insult. You know, but for Coach Flores to, you know, keep his chin up and still go in that interview. We talk about the audacity of hope. He was hoping, you know, to get the opportunity to still be hired.

• 15:44Ryan Clark?

  Got your question, though. Got your question. Even in that, from, from a devil's advocate standpoint, the rule doesn't say you have to conduct the interview with integrity. It doesn't say you have to conduct the interview with the intent to possibly hire. It says you have to conduct the interview. So what we are talking about, we aren't talking about giving the air that the pro, that the process is flawed. All we're saying is Brian Flores is trying to prove that there's racism involved in the process. Do you think it's possible for him to prove that?

• 16:22Fred Taylor?

  It's, it's gonna be tough. It'll be tough. Anytime you scream racism, it's gonna be tough. And it's all opinionated. But when you look at how things are, are stacking up and how things are aligning, there was nine vacancies. And, you know, quite honestly, right now at this point. No, we haven't hired, or they haven't hired, a black guy to fill those spots, right? It'll be a tough fight in court. I know B. Flo. I know he's passionate. I was in New England when he was on the Patriots staff. Know he's hungry. I know he's passionate. I know he always wanted to be a head coach. I don't think he would, you know, just initiate these claims simply to gain some sort of fame or be in that spotlight. He's never been that way.

• 17:08Fred Taylor?

  You know, if you're coming from the Belichick coaching tree, you always want to fly under the radar.

• 17:12Ryan Clark?

  Ain't no fame in this though, right?

• 17:14Fred Taylor?

  No, there's no fame.

• 17:15Ryan Clark?

  Like you make this claim, you may never coach again.

• 17:17Fred Taylor?

  There's, no, hold up, Tam. There's no fame, but this contains the history and the outlook of the NFL.

• 17:26Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 17:26Fred Taylor?

  This is really, we're trying to, we're trying to send a message to the country club. Because if, if, if we look alike, it's easier for, for me to invite you in my home.

• 17:39Channing Crowder?

  Freddie, y'all just said it. Y'all talking about the racism. The Rooney Rule is racist towards white coaches?

• 17:45Fred Taylor?

  But the thing is, we know.

• 17:46Channing Crowder?

  Isn't the Rooney Rule racist? I, you have to talk to a black person.

• 17:49Fred Taylor?

  That's affirmative action.

• 17:49Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 17:50Fred Taylor?

  We all, we all know it's racist. And I mean, you know, the fact that we still fighting to expose that it's racist is, it sounds like we still behind the eight ball.

• 17:59Ryan Clark?

  Shaw, I have a question. Are you saying it's racist toward white coaches?

• 18:03Channing Crowder?

  It's just a racist concept.

• 18:05Ryan Clark?

  Explain it, please.

• 18:06Channing Crowder?

  Let's say I like Asian women. I've dated Asian women my whole life. I, I, you know what?

• 18:13Fred Taylor?

  You put the shit in the perspective for me, right?

• 18:14Channing Crowder?

  I'm, I'm in this. I'm gonna end, I'm gonna, I'm gonna end this with a Marshawn story. But let's say I like Asian women.

• 18:21Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 18:21Channing Crowder?

  I've only dated Asian women.

• 18:23Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 18:23Channing Crowder?

  New York Giants, 100 years. Only had, only had white coaches, right? White haired coaches.

• 18:28Ryan Clark?

  Only white haired coaches.

• 18:29Channing Crowder?

  All I did for 100 years was date Asian women. And y'all forced me to date a black woman, or date a Hispanic, or date a Native American. I'm, I'm gonna make y'all happy and take them out.

• 18:41Ryan Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 18:42Channing Crowder?

  And we gonna have a conversation, and I'm, I'm, I'm a vegetarian now. So I don't eat all that meat stuff.

• 18:47Ryan Clark?

  Hey, Channing, can I ask you a question?

• 18:48Channing Crowder?

  But no, no, no, no, no.

• 18:49Ryan Clark?

  I'm gonna cut you off. I have a question though. Would you bust her?

• 18:52Channing Crowder?

  If she was throwing it.

• 18:58Ryan Clark?

  You ain't gonna turn it down?

• 18:59Channing Crowder?

  Yeah, I ain't, yeah, I ain't, I ain't, listen, I tell you, coochie is a punt. And I always fair catch it. I ain't gonna run it back, but I'm always.

• 19:05Ryan Clark?

  You ain't gonna run it back?

• 19:07Channing Crowder?

  I'm always gonna fair catch it.

• 19:07Ryan Clark?

  Man, take it to the house, man.

• 19:11Channing Crowder?

  No, no, no, them two, them two minutes is a fair catch. That's all I got for him. What I'm saying, like, it's.

• 19:16Ryan Clark?

  Hey, you should clear the position.

• 19:18Channing Crowder?

  If you, if you force me to date somebody that's not my type, I'm not gonna marry them, I'm not gonna go with them, I'm not gonna give them a job to, to, to relate it to the coaches. But I'm gonna date them because y'all make me date them.

• 19:31Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 19:32Channing Crowder?

  The Rooney Rule is racist and it doesn't work. I was never gonna marry anybody else if I like Asian women, other than Asian women. The Giants love Caucasian men for a hundred years. And now you have to just throw a black dude in there and let him take him out for dinner?

• 19:46Ryan Clark?

  So here's my question.

• 19:46Channing Crowder?

  Take him out for dinner?

• 19:47Ryan Clark?

  Pass the question, so, so.

• 19:48Channing Crowder?

  Come on, big man, smack your little booty.

• 19:50Ryan Clark?

  So I played for, I played for Pittsburgh, right? And, and we got Mike Tomlin as a coach. Uh, Mike Tomlin was a Rooney Rule interview. Uh, I felt like art, I felt like, uh, old man Rooney accepted that rule and looked at that rule as, okay, we're gonna interview him, but we're going to give him an actual shot.

• 20:10Channing Crowder?

  Legit interview.

• 20:11Ryan Clark?

  A legit interview.

• 20:12Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 20:12Ryan Clark?

  And Mike Tomlin comes in there and he wows them. And so he's been the coach for a decade and a half. When you look at the rule, I feel like that's the way it needs to be approached. And now, I did an interview, um, recently and they asked me, do you feel like the rule has been made a mockery? And I do.

• 20:30Channing Crowder?

  It is.

• 20:31Ryan Clark?

  Right? And, and the only reason it's been made a mockery, though, is because in life, we breed off familiarity. Right? We breed off of comfort. You know what I'm saying? And so like, the way we look at life is, I want to be in atmospheres where the people sound like me. Right? Like, if, if you tell me something, like, no matter how different we are, when you tell it, when you tell it to me, I understand it. So I feel like when you now relay it to the team in the same way that we agree, they will understand it. And so I, I, I don't believe that hiring coaches is racist. I do not believe that. I do believe it's racial. And so in that, how do we find a way to fix that problem?

• 21:15Channing Crowder?

  You know what? Now, I'll get right back into Sean with that.

• 21:19Channing Crowder?

  Because of the fact that, do you have to change? Because we just talked about it, you never change. You never changed, you never lined up with what they want you to be.

• 21:28Ryan Clark?

  He didn't line up with what they wanted to be, he absolutely changed. He evolved. I don't care what nobody say.

• 21:33Channing Crowder?

  Sean changed?

• 21:34Ryan Clark?

  Marshawn Lynch evolved. He never played the game.

• 21:38Fred Taylor?

  He didn't play their game.

• 21:39Ryan Clark?

  But he always understood what he wanted the perception of him to be. And that's part of evolving, right? He was a guy in Buffalo who I thought drafted in the top 10, top 12, was one of the best backs in the league. But there was off the field stuff that kept him from being perceived that way.

• 21:57Fred Taylor?

  A lot of it.

• 21:58Ryan Clark?

  When he got to, when he got to Seattle, he realized, I have, I have Hall of Fame talent, but there are some of these things I'm going to have to hone in order to become beast mode. In order to the fact that like kids all over Seattle are pouring Skittles in their mouths every time something happen. He evolved. He may not have changed who he was, but he evolved as a human. You agree with that?

• 22:24Speaker 00

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• 22:55Fred Taylor?

  This is, this is what, let, before you say.

• 22:57Ryan Clark?

  Let me ask you.

• 22:57Fred Taylor?

  I am, I am. But what I want to say, I, I am. Because I hear you, right? He didn't change.

• 23:05Ryan Clark?

  I didn't say he changed, I say he evolved.

• 23:07Fred Taylor?

  He, he did evolve. But I, I would like, I, I think you grew. I think you just, you, you just grew up.

• 23:14Ryan Clark?

  There you go with that.

• 23:15Fred Taylor?

  You, you peeped the game.

• 23:16Ryan Clark?

  Bro, Freddie, see, there you go with that. Oh, watch me be so cool and everybody think I'm so nice.

• 23:21Fred Taylor?

  Ever, ever, ever.

• 23:23Channing Crowder?

  Sean, Sean, Sean. What happened, what happened, Sean? What happened?

• 23:28Speaker 04

  You say changed, you say evolved. What I think is more so.

• 23:31Fred Taylor?

  You grew the [__] up.

• 23:33Speaker 04

  I did. In the, in the, in the grand scheme of things, so you feel me? With, with everything going on, ball, off the field, family, life, you feel me, just all the shit. You know, I had to, I had to look at some shit. If I continued on the path that I was, you know, going down, then maybe I'm not in the league. So maybe we don't have, you know, beast mode, or what people have known for beast mode to be. Beast mode probably would have been, oh, that motherf**er was good, but that motherf**er just couldn't get right. So, he had the opportunity to Hall of Fame talent, this, that and the third, but he had the potential to do it, but he just couldn't. Right. Couldn't turn it. And that's the story.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  And within the, within the parameter of things, you feel me, I, I believe it was more so

• 24:21Speaker 04

  being accessible. And when I shut that shit off, and I got the, I'll say focus on me and what it was I was trying to accomplish, a lot of other shit didn't matter to me.

• 24:31Ryan Clark?

  What were you trying to accomplish?

• 24:33Speaker 04

  You said, what was I trying to accomplish?

• 24:34Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you say, like, focus on things you were trying to accomplish.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  I mean, at, at, at that time, like, I mean, maximizing my, my, my, my, my opportunity and my potential to be the best running back that I could be. Along with, shit, I mean, we all play the game to win the, win, win, win the big dance. Right. And shit, the talent that we had around us, the coaching staff and all the shit, it looked doable. So I want to give me and the rest of my squad the opportunity to go and do that. So in order to do that, I knew I had to be on the field. I knew I couldn't be on the field if I was doing what I was doing off the field.

• 25:07Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 25:08Speaker 04

  So therefore, I just had to modify some shit. I ain't putting it in your face, am I doing what I do? Yeah, I am. Just not in your face.

• 25:16Ryan Clark?

  What you say, when you say modify?

• 25:17Speaker 04

  I mean, shit, well, I, you know. Yeah, the pivot. Oakland nigga, I, I had the pivot, you know, I'm, I'm wide open. I'm, I'm gonna come, pull up to the, shit, maybe the Christmas team party with my fifth of Hennessy in my goddamn, in my coat. And everybody looking at me like, what the f**k he brought? You feel me? And then it was more so like, oh, if I don't bring the whole fifth, and I just pour half of the fifth in this water bottle. Then they just think I'm drinking some water. Or you feel what I'm saying? So now.

• 25:48Channing Crowder?

  Dog, hey, bro.

• 25:49Speaker 04

  It was just simple shit like that, though.

• 25:51Channing Crowder?

  I'm not intelligent.

• 25:52Speaker 04

  To change the.

• 25:52Channing Crowder?

  But, dog, I know Hennessy does not look like Fiji.

• 25:55Speaker 04

  I'm saying as far, I'm saying as far as a, a bottle and not the, you feel me? The whole handle of the fifth, you feel me? Just sliding through. Was having to come in there smelling like a pound, you feel me? Smelling like a big tree.

• 26:08Channing Crowder?

  Pivot. You know what I'm saying? If you gotta go and pivot to go a different direction. Was there a point that happened, that it happened naturally through time? Or was there something that happened? Was there a distinct thought in your mind when you started to evolve? Not change, evolve?

• 26:21Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, as I, as I was growing, when I got traded from Buffalo, you know, from being, you know, one of the youngest in the, uh, in the locker room, to going to Seattle and being one of the oldest. And my is looking at me like, "Ay, OG, what's up? How you do this, that and the third?" And it was more so like, "Oh, shit, you coming at me for advice type shit." Then it was like, "Oh, oh, now I'm the OG now." But I'm still young and learning at the same time. So at the, you feel me? When somebody come in and give me, I mean, and ask me for some ism or something, and I'm looking at him like, more so like, "Damn, I can't tell you what to do. All I could do is give you some insight on my, uh, my experiences and, you know, how I worked it. But what worked for me might not work for you."

• 27:06Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 27:06Speaker 04

  So you gotta find what that is for you and get into that and do that. But the pivot, I think, point was, something that happened with me was, with all this shit going on and, you know, it wasn't even, I won't even say it was sport related, but it came a point in time where, you know, I wasn't seeing eye to eye with, uh, I wasn't seeing eye to eye with mom. And I didn't talk to her for like, probably like, three weeks. And you feel me? I just was having this feeling like, something just ain't sitting right with me. You feel me, I'm doing my thing on the field, all the shit, you feel me? In my transition of, you know, I would say calming down or not being, you know,

• 27:46Speaker 04

  out there for everybody to see how I'm really rocking the hell of shit, but when it come down to it, it was, okay, I stay in my lane, I do what I do, but I'm feeling a certain type of way and like, man, I don't know what the [__] is going on, so, you know, I hit moms like, ma, whoo, whoo, whoo, hollering at moms like, yeah, this shit, that, the whoo, whoo, this, that and the third, and, and all of a sudden, I just, I felt complete again, and I'm like, oh shit, I was missing something.

• 28:11Ryan Clark?

  And just calling her, you felt like that?

• 28:12Speaker 04

  I was, I was missing my [__] mama.

• 28:14Ryan Clark?

  Damn, bro, that's crazy, real talk.

• 28:17Speaker 04

  And that was something that clicked in me like, oh, I need to be hitting on all cylinders. This is, my mama been my rock since forever, well, is my rock, you feel me? And, you know, not being able to have that, even if it's just calling and telling her about the game, or, you know, calling to tell her, oh shit, I'm walking through the, through the dark and I stubbed my toe and like, damn mama, that shit hurt hella, you feel me, cause my mama, mama gonna, she gonna rock, and she hella funny, so you feel me, just having that type of conversation, that type of love, I'm like, damn, I was missing that shit.

• 28:46Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 28:46Speaker 04

  And that was affecting me, my, my, my mother [__].

• 28:49Ryan Clark?

  Your being.

• 28:50Speaker 04

  My vibe and shit.

• 28:51Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 28:51Speaker 04

  And it was like, I got that shit back, and it was like, okay, well, I need to be hitting on all these cylinders in order to be complete. Now, at the end of the day, I wanna be happy. I done talked to a lot of my [__] who left this game and they just wasn't happy.

• 29:03Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 29:03Speaker 04

  And then, I mean, you know, with the situation we having with, you know, uh, players, they, you know, they, they say they losing their mind, or CDT this, that and the third. I need to do every mother [__] thing that I can in order to be happy, so I can be complete.

• 29:17Ryan Clark?

  So I have a question, you said, you was like, dog, protect your chickens.

• 29:21Speaker 04

  I was just about to run into that.

• 29:23Ryan Clark?

  Can you, can, can, in your mental? Mentals and your chickens. Can, can, like, what, what prompted that in you, bro?

• 29:29Speaker 04

  He just said it was the OG in the locker room.

• 29:31Ryan Clark?

  What prompted that? Yeah, like, what, what made you, cause like, that's a, because like, when you said it, I got it right away. Right? But it's because there's a language we speak.

• 29:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:42Ryan Clark?

  There's a language we speak that's different. You know, and it's not many of us who can get in front of the microphone. You know, like, I always felt like, when I'm in front of the microphone, I have to speak in a way so everybody understands me.

• 29:55Speaker 04

  Right.

• 29:56Ryan Clark?

  Right? You said that, and the minute you said it, I was like, oh, I get that.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:00Ryan Clark?

  What made you feel comfortable in saying that? And also, what compelled you to say it?

• 30:05Speaker 04

  Well, that's the part about why, you know, you look at it like, oh shit, uh, when you say change, in a situation like, I don't feel like I've changed, as far as who my person is. But, the way I talk is the way I talk. Now, at the end of the day, if you're an individual who don't understand what I'm saying, based off of my, my slang, or, you know, I'm talking about the way I, the way I speak, then I mean, I don't feel I'm talking to you. There ain't no disrespect in that, but, I mean, when I'm spitting what I'm spitting, it ain't for everybody, but I know that. But the motherfuckers who needed it, they get it, they understand it. Now, if you can resonate with it, then use it. If not, keep it pushing.

• 30:47Fred Taylor?

  Right. And that's what I love the most. I mean, you just spoke on your mom. You know, who would've ever thought Beast Mode, they see you running motherf**ing left and right.

• 30:56Speaker 04

  Man.

• 30:57Fred Taylor?

  They, they see this, this, this, this image, this perception, this facade, of this tough, hard motherf**.

• 31:06Fred Taylor?

  But you're a mama's boy, like, you needed that.

• 31:08Speaker 04

  But shit, most, most motherfuckers need shit.

• 31:11Fred Taylor?

  Most people.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  If you, if you watch any, I can't lie, dog. You come up underneath any gangster shit, one thing you don't do is you don't f** with nobody.

• 31:20Fred Taylor?

  You don't f** with moms.

• 31:21Speaker 04

  You feel me? You don't f** with moms. You don't f** with that. I mean, in no situation, man, any, you know, at the end of the day, the first thing they doing is, where, where moms at?

• 31:31Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 31:31Speaker 04

  I get a little, I get a little bit of choke in my, uh, you feel what I'm talking about? My pocket? Moms, what you need? Off rip.

• 31:38Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 31:39Fred Taylor?

  And I think, and that's, that's.

• 31:40Speaker 04

  That who gotta be taking care of it for sure.

• 31:41Fred Taylor?

  That's always, especially people that come from our dem- demographics. That's always our motivation, that's what we push for, to make sure mom is good. But the point I was gonna make is, we, we always, um, I think people enjoy this show because the vulnerability. You know, being able to, uh, either express and share that, or bring that out of our guests, right? That, people see the realness, that's the transparency.

• 32:06Speaker 04

  Aw, but man, you trippin'.

• 32:07Fred Taylor?

  You feel me?

• 32:08Speaker 04

  I got.

• 32:09Fred Taylor?

  Hey, I got niggas right here, man. You feel me?

• 32:15Fred Taylor?

  That lost though, Freddie? Y'all think that's lost?

• 32:17Channing Crowder?

  Hell, yeah. What's that?

• 32:18Fred Taylor?

  Sometimes, people are probably pulling too tough. Especially coming from this, in this business, some guys can lose themselves. But the real ones know. And the thing is, you know, just, just really going back to, to what you just said, the vulnerability you showing your mom, and what was your big pivot? And, and, and what got you right and what got you back on track? And even when talking to the young guys about, uh, the chickens. You know, we always try to make sure we have a message for these young guys. Yeah, that's real. The ones, the high schoolers, the college guys, that wanna be in this position someday. That's always our message. And for the ones that were lost, chickens is your ducks, your bread, your cheddar, your cheese, your, your money. You gotta take care of that shit.

• 33:02Fred Taylor?

  Because if you don't, you got these vultures and these people ready to pray, they're preying on you, they're ready to attack you. And they gonna take advantage of you. So, when I heard you say that, in the middle of an interview, I was like... Hit everybody. Bro, got it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, hit everybody. And he was on the perfect stage to share that message. And this platform, that's what we try to do. Right. So for me, having him here, right now in his moment to, to, to vibe and chill. Can I say something? Hold on, man, no, you can't. Who are you? Who are you, bro? I'm talking, baby. Who are you? I'm talking. So, we've done, so, so right now... Certain people, certain people in your life bring the best out of you. You've never acted like this before, though.

• 33:46Fred Taylor?

  You are acting totally different. He acting totally different.

• 33:51Channing Crowder?

  They got that connection, bro.

• 33:57Channing Crowder?

  It's me and you, RC.

• 33:58Fred Taylor?

  It's the running back shit. We on the outside.

• 34:00Channing Crowder?

  And we on the outside looking in. They, they having a conversation and we here.

• 34:04Fred Taylor?

  He passed me this dotty. The dotty, man. Talk about that. The dotty, man. Talk about, talk, let him talk about that real quick.

• 34:12Speaker 04

  About the, uh, about the dotty sticks? Uh, what, shit, my, uh, my cannabis line? Uh shit, you know, it's, it's, I mean, it's been a long time coming. I mean shit, i- if, if you haven't, you feel me? If you get through California, you feel me? Well, probably about, I wanna say like eighty, uh, eighty dispensaries in Cali, but, I mean, you know, it's just, like I said, a long time coming. I mean, I, I don't know for too many athletes, but I know for a fact that, you know, while I was getting down, uh, you know, it, it, it, it, it was a part of my, uh, my regiment, of my healing process.

• 34:47Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 34:48Speaker 04

  You feel what I'm saying? For my body and my mind. And I mean, now I came to the opportunity with shit I'm done now and, you know, it's legal. Shit, why not get into it?

• 34:58Channing Crowder?

  Business side of it, when, when it's legal and they making billions off of it. You know what I'm saying? But, from the side of the athlete's side, the, the kids, the young kids and all, if somebody asks you, "When could I start? When should I start? When should I put that in my..." Like you say, "Put it in my regiment." Because it's all about gaming, bro.

• 35:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:18Channing Crowder?

  Dudes gonna smoke. Dudes gonna smoke.

• 35:20Speaker 04

  They, I mean, they, they is.

• 35:22Channing Crowder?

  But, should, should, should a, a tenth grader?

• 35:25Speaker 04

  So I'mma tell you like this. What I, what I, what I have noticed is, there's a lot of, there's a lot of youth that, that get down and blow. And I mean, I think it's more of a, of a cultural type situation then. You know, I don't feel that if you just, you feel me, jumping off the porch, you feel me though, trying to do something because, you know, your boy doing it, or you think it's cool, or, you know what I mean, some, some, some fugazi shit, and that ain't a part of your genetic makeup, then I'mma hit your ass with the, say no to drugs. You feel what I'm talking about? But most motherfuckers that, if they come to you, i- i- as a tenth grader and ask you, "When should I

• 36:06Speaker 04

  start smoking and shit like that?" Nine times out of ten, that little motherfucker already blowing.

• 36:11Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 36:12Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 36:12Speaker 04

  He already blowing. He just- Trying to cover his tracks to see like, oh, to be able to say, well, I, I talked to, you feel me though, Marshawn, and he said, nah, he ain't said no shit like that, but you feel me? Most motherfuckers that's getting down.

• 36:26Ryan Clark?

  But when, when would you, but you gotta, when would you discourage it?

• 36:29Speaker 04

  You said, when would I?

• 36:30Ryan Clark?

  Like 10th grade, 9th grade, 8th grade, 7th grade, 6th grade, you know what I'm saying? When, when do you discourage it?

• 36:35Speaker 04

  Hmm, oh, you said discouraged?

• 36:37Ryan Clark?

  Like, yeah, when would you say, no, bruh, it ain't, that, that ain't where it's at?

• 36:41Speaker 04

  I'm, I'mma tell you like this, if you don't get down, I'm never gonna tell you that it's a, a good time to blow no dope. I'd never tell you to. If you already getting down, now there's some shit that's going on in which, you know, you need to make sure that you able to take care of your business.

• 36:56Ryan Clark?

  Right.

• 36:56Speaker 04

  If this is something that you plan on doing, cause I mean, I done seen it, you know, turn motherfuckers, you feel me though, and don't wanna play, I, oh, no, I'd rather just go smoke, or I ain't going to practice because I wanna go get high type shit.

• 37:10Ryan Clark?

  Damn Nintendo players.

• 37:11Speaker 04

  If you an individual like that, then you need to leave that shit right where it's at. You need to go find you something else down the old gym.

• 37:19Ryan Clark?

  Listen to you talk, you're a very individual thinker, right? When I think of the success of Seattle, this is, this is how it goes for me. And I could be wrong, you can correct me. It goes Marshawn Lynch, running game, Legion of Boom, right? A quarterback that could do enough to make sure you, you win. When you look at the way you live life, when you look at the way you communicated to the public, how does a guy like you become a part of a championship organization?

• 37:58Ryan Clark?

  And like, and, and like, in, in, in my opinion, the, the focal point of it, I'm from New Orleans, bro, and I'm just gonna, what, what, what, what did they, what did they call the run? Was it the beast quake? Was that the name of it?

• 38:10Speaker 04

  Fucking beast quake. They called it 17 power.

• 38:13Ryan Clark?

  Right, right, right, so, so.

• 38:15Channing Crowder?

  Hey, hey Fred, don't do that, don't do that.

• 38:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:18Channing Crowder?

  Hey, don't do that.

• 38:18Ryan Clark?

  I see.

• 38:19Channing Crowder?

  Say, hey, so, so, say, Sean, Sean.

• 38:21Ryan Clark?

  We on outside.

• 38:22Channing Crowder?

  Sean, so when they call that play against the Saints, what you thinking, bro? Did you think it was gonna end up being that, bruh?

• 38:30Speaker 04

  Hell, dog. Nope, not even a little bit. He tried to get it first time. Only thing I, only thing I know was, since I got, you know, to Seattle, cause I got there, what? Week four?

• 38:40Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 38:41Speaker 04

  I just had got traded and shit. And I'm telling them like, you know, they, you know, they act, oh, you know, what you like to run and shit. And I'm, power.

• 38:49Channing Crowder?

  Okay.

• 38:50Speaker 04

  And, oh, okay, you know, we gonna get it in this week, we gonna get it in this week. And shit, what, first round of playoffs or what?

• 38:58Channing Crowder?

  Y'all was seven and nine, right?

• 39:00Speaker 04

  Thirteen weeks later.

• 39:01Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  They like power. So I'm like, oh, what the, like, you done finally? Oh, they done blessed me.

• 39:07Channing Crowder?

  Right, right, right.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  Oh, they finally done, you feel what I'm talking about? And then it was like, you feel me, from, from there, I'm, I'm just so, I'm so juiced that we finally got the, you feel me, power call. Now, my, I don't know how the guard gonna pull, you feel me, cause we ain't really seen it. So, I'm like, alright, well, shit, I been asking for it, you know? What you gonna do with it? Backdoor egg out? Man, so when it was time, it was time. Let's get act. Then that rest of that shit was history.

• 39:38Channing Crowder?

  We was in Buffalo, we played against each other, that's where my story comes, it's a good one. But we in Buffalo. You weren't beast mode in Buffalo.

• 39:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:48Channing Crowder?

  You weren't, bro, you used to hang out, you know what I'm saying?

• 39:50Speaker 04

  They didn't call it beast mode.

• 39:52Channing Crowder?

  They didn't call it?

• 39:53Speaker 04

  They had the whole, they had the whole little beast mode. They probably beast mode then?

• 39:57Channing Crowder?

  But you weren't, you, if Seattle, correct me.

• 40:01Speaker 04

  It wasn't, it wasn't that much. When we come up the, the, the, the, the stairway right now, in the, hey, beast mode.

• 40:08Channing Crowder?

  Beast mode, beast mode.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Right, right. He wasn't that, you feel me, he wasn't himathy like that then. But, you feel me, in the Buffalo community, oh yeah, Marshawn Lynch, beast mode, you feel me?

• 40:18Channing Crowder?

  But why did it crank up? Because I, we, we hung when we was in Buffalo, we play, I was in the same division, AFC East, so we, we, we hung, we played twice each and we hung. And then you went to Seattle, bruh, and it, you, you blew up. Why did that, why did, why did you blow up in Seattle? Like, they traded for you, like, they knew what was going on. I don't know if it was Pete Carroll, I don't know if it was success. Like, why did beast mode become a international thing when you went to Seattle?

• 40:45Speaker 04

  Well, I, I mean, just being, I think it was more so the fact that, with, with, I mean, you know, I like to look at the situation from a whole. You just got a coach in Pete Carroll who, uh, you know, had just left SC and all of the shit that was behind that. So, everybody, you feel me, want to see what he gonna do? And then they go ahead and make a trade for a running back who, you know, at that time, people was, they probably was writing me off by then. Cause I mean, like I said, you know, my off the field trouble and some other shit. And it's like, more so like, damn, why would they go and get a running back? Who, you know, damn well, damn well, like, shit, they probably was looking at me like washed up now. You feel what I'm saying though? So, it's like, okay, it was, it was eyeballs on me and the Seahawks because of, you know, they want to see what Pete got going on.

• 41:29Speaker 04

  And then they got eyeballs on me like, okay, well, they went ahead and made this trade for him like, but why type shit? And then, you feel me though, through, through the, through the beast quake run, you feel me though? We knocked off the, uh, you know, the, the Saints had just won the Super Bowl the year before that.

• 41:48Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 41:49Speaker 04

  And then we knocked that ass off, you feel me though? And it's like, oh shit, off this run that you feel me, that, that you talk about arguably one of the best runs in NFL history.

• 41:59Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 42:00Speaker 04

  Hold on, is, is he for real, for real? Okay, well, now, this one just registered an earthquake, like.

• 42:09Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  The whole world type shook though. So, you feel me, like, if you could get the world to shake, you feel me? Something gotta be up though, you know what I'm talking about?

• 42:17Channing Crowder?

  Did you know, did you know, bruh?

• 42:19Speaker 04

  Hell no, man, hell no, man, hell no. I couldn't, I wouldn't even imagine though, you feel, I, for sure, for sure, I didn't imagine that it would, you know, take me from the level that I was at, uh, right then at that time and, and elevate me to the point where I am now. And I mean, you know, to the point where like, I mean, you know, the, probably the number one, two things people always talk about when they come and holler at me with three. I'm just here so I won't get fined.

• 42:46Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Uh, they should have gave you the ball type shit and beast quake.

• 42:50Channing Crowder?

  So, I have a, I have a question, man. Like, you're talking about where you are now. I think.

• 42:56Ryan Clark?

  You know.

• 42:57Speaker 04

  Nah, I hear you.

• 42:58Ryan Clark?

  Where you going?

• 42:59Speaker 04

  I'm finna get me some more, uh, water.

• 43:00Ryan Clark?

  Alright, cool. You get me some water. I'm gonna just keep talking though.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  See?

• 43:05Ryan Clark?

  Hey.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  That's why, that's why we love you, bruh.

• 43:07Ryan Clark?

  Sean, that's your look brown though. That all look like water to me though, man.

• 43:10Speaker 04

  Little dirty water. Little dirty water.

• 43:12Ryan Clark?

  Alright, so check this out though. So like, my thing is though, you know, like I've watched you. Hey, for right there. I've watched you continue to evolve as a human, right? And I think one of the things that doesn't get highlighted about you is the way you give back to the community. Uh, there's a story of you being detained and having to get out because you had kids waiting on you.

• 43:35Speaker 04

  Six hundred?

• 43:37Ryan Clark?

  You know what I'm saying? What is?

• 43:38Speaker 04

  Nah, I think we, we probably had, uh, yeah, we probably had six.

• 43:43Ryan Clark?

  You got six hundred kids waiting on you. You're in a situation where you know you gotta get to them. What makes that so important to Marshawn Lynch?

• 43:53Speaker 04

  Uh, well shit, man. You know, at the time what, uh, started our, uh, our, uh, our football camps and all that shit. And I mean, this was a event in the town that, you know, it's talked about like, you know, all, all year. So everybody looking forward to this month. You feel what I'm talking about?

• 44:10Ryan Clark?

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  So yeah, I did have a situation. I called a, uh, DUI and hella shit. And you feel me? From the time, from the time we fucking here.

• 44:20Ryan Clark?

  I love the fact that you can laugh about it though, man.

• 44:22Speaker 04

  You hear them, you hear them handcuffs and all I could think was damn, you feel me? I ain't gonna be able to get to them kids and hella shit. So the whole time I'm in there. That's the first thing that came to mind? That's the first thing that came to mind was I ain't gonna be able to get to them kids. So it was on my, you know what I mean? Like damn, how I'ma do it? Not knowing, you feel me? When are you gonna let me out? And I beeline straight to the high school, you know, in order to get there. So I made it, uh, probably within like, we got two sessions. I made it to the end of the first session with like thirty, uh, thirty minutes left into the camp.

• 44:50Ryan Clark?

  What, what were the kids like, man, when you finally showed up?

• 44:53Speaker 04

  Like damn, you late.

• 44:54Ryan Clark?

  Shut up!

• 44:55Speaker 04

  Like you late, bruh.

• 44:56Ryan Clark?

  Well, obviously, they, they, they don't know what you been through, right?

• 44:58Speaker 04

  Did everybody know? They ain't know the media ain't covering it. Nobody knew why you was late? Hell nah. So you feel me? You know, we bring all the kids up at the end of the camp, you feel me though? And holla at them. So everybody, oh, you know, Marshawn, where was you at? What you was doing? So you feel me? No, I'm keep it solid with my young dudes, you feel me? And I went to jail. And they like, what? Like, oh, man. Like, what? Man, what you go to jail for? You kill somebody? Like, what the? How you think I'm gonna be out of jail right now?

• 45:29Speaker 04

  My kid, my kid, my first session, my kid's six or 12. So you feel me? They, oh, man, like, well, what you go to jail for? Type shit. I'm like, man, well, you know, I had a, uh, uh, you know, I was, I was, I was, I was driving under the influence type shit. And they like, oh, man, that ain't shit. Man, my daddy in jail for, for murder. And my, my, my, uh, my, my, my brother just went to jail. He, he just was, he just got caught in a robbery type shit. So now I'm looking at him. They looking at me like, oh, you really a sucker though. But, hey, man, we glad you made it to the camp. And I'm like, so you feel me? And he a petty thief. He a petty thief. My daddy in jail for real stuff. You feel me? So they looking at me like, I can't, like, man, that's what you was late for. And like, man, you should have been here.

• 46:13Speaker 04

  And I'm like, yeah, I should have been here. Hell, that punk ass shit like, damn, they woke my ass up like, okay, my bad.

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• 46:53Speaker 04

  You know, that was, that was, that was a part of that time where that, that What year was that, Shaw? thing was going. Uh, that was what, mm, 2012, 13?

• 47:04Fred Taylor?

  Wow, that's amazing. Do you, um, do you keep in touch with any of those kids from, from that camp?

• 47:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, but we actually got a, we actually got one of the kids from our camp that's playing the Super Bowl this, uh, Shut up, bro.

• 47:18Fred Taylor?

  Oh, wow.

• 47:18Speaker 04

  You lying, dawg. Why? No, I ain't.

• 47:22Fred Taylor?

  Can you share his name?

• 47:23Speaker 04

  Oh, uh, uh, Mixon, Joe Mixon.

• 47:25Channing Crowder?

  Hey, wait. He was straight back over. He was straight back over. He turned his feet outside on me like.

• 47:35Channing Crowder?

  I was about to jump up.

• 47:37Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 47:38Channing Crowder?

  I don't wanna be, that's my guy.

• 47:40Fred Taylor?

  But, but listen.

• 47:41Speaker 04

  No, no, no.

• 47:41Fred Taylor?

  You guys fell, did you hear the name he just said? The player?

• 47:47Speaker 04

  Who?

• 47:47Fred Taylor?

  We, I talked about him earlier. And what, who, what was, who was the player? I said, if they're gonna win the Super Bowl, right?

• 47:55Ryan Clark?

  Joe Mixon.

• 47:56Fred Taylor?

  He has to be the MVP.

• 47:57Ryan Clark?

  Joe Mixon, you told me that. Joe Mixon, was that your count?

• 48:00Fred Taylor?

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:00Ryan Clark?

  Do you guys, do you guys still communicate?

• 48:02Fred Taylor?

  That's crazy.

• 48:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, that little bro. I mean, but you know, just, just, just through the, you know, through the process of, I mean, shit, we had, uh, what, a couple of years ago, shit, my cousin, Marcus, played in the, uh, in the Super Bowl too, and he probably was one of the first kids that actually kicked off.

• 48:18Ryan Clark?

  Marcus who?

• 48:18Speaker 04

  Peters. That, that kicked off, was at the initial first.

• 48:22Ryan Clark?

  First off, he's one of my favorite players in the world.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  The first, the first, the very first football camp that we had. So, I mean, you know, just, just being in a position like that, where I'm looking at, you know, uh, youngsters who now came through the, through the, through the pipeline, you feel me? And now they in the Super Bowl and shit, that's a good ass feeling.

• 48:40Ryan Clark?

  Marshawn, you walk in here, I'm a Pittsburgh Steeler. Uh, I'm a huge fan of Najee Harris.

• 48:46Speaker 04

  Uh-huh.

• 48:47Ryan Clark?

  You know what I'm saying? I think, you know, to go from Calif, he's homeless, right? And so, I'm a huge fan of what he is away from football.

• 48:55Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:56Ryan Clark?

  Uh, but obviously, you go, you rush for a thousand, the type of passes he catches. But to watch him walk behind you and kinda have that, that, that, that air of understanding who, um, who you are and what you mean to the culture and where he's from, what you mean to the culture of your position. How does that pressure weigh on you, uh, to be an example for people?

• 49:26Speaker 04

  Not at all.

• 49:28Ryan Clark?

  God, I love you.

• 49:28Speaker 04

  Not at all. I mean, cause, I mean.

• 49:30Ryan Clark?

  I love you, dawg.

• 49:31Speaker 04

  Hey, look, man, I, everybody is they person. And at the end of the day, you got a little life for who you are. Now, at the end of the day, I mean, it's not that I, I, I, I don't, you know, I'm not mindful of the situation, but, I mean, shit, when you say walking behind and see, you know, what's going on. As we, you feel me though, we link up. And, you know, I look at, I look at, I look at my, uh, at my boy, you know, on some shit like, he helped me create something that I probably wouldn't have, you know, wouldn't have had, Najee.

• 50:06Channing Crowder?

  Okay.

• 50:06Speaker 04

  You feel me? So, you know, coming up, you know, he like, "Ay, man, you know, I want you to help me with, you know, all my marketing shit." And I'm like, "You serious?" He like, "Yeah."

• 50:18Channing Crowder?

  Did you have marketing help?

• 50:19Speaker 04

  I, you said, "Did I have marketing help?"

• 50:21Channing Crowder?

  Did you have marketing help, or, or like, "Wus, I'm just here so I don't get fined, all you." Somebody marketed the hell out of you. He had to, bro. Let's be honest, honestly, like. He's the Snoop Dogg of football.

• 50:30Speaker 04

  Hold on, you, when you say that, what, what'd you mean, like?

• 50:32Channing Crowder?

  Like, was somebody, was somebody aiding you? And was somebody telling you, "This is the next step."

• 50:38Speaker 04

  Oh, hell no.

• 50:38Channing Crowder?

  We need to take it, Marshawn Lynch.

• 50:40Speaker 04

  No, hell no, hell no.

• 50:41Channing Crowder?

  Nobody.

• 50:42Speaker 04

  We don't rock like that.

• 50:42Channing Crowder?

  How though, bro?

• 50:43Speaker 04

  What you mean, "How like that?"

• 50:45Channing Crowder?

  Dog, you in commercials now, like you promote all this shit.

• 50:48Speaker 04

  I get involved with shit that I like.

• 50:50Channing Crowder?

  Talking about Subway with gold teeth and dreads.

• 50:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:52Channing Crowder?

  I can't talk about nothing with dreads and bad teeth. Gold teeth.

• 50:57Speaker 04

  You a fool. Hey, out of pop, bro.

• 51:00Channing Crowder?

  You got marketing and something. Hey, wait, why you saying bad teeth though, dog? I do have bad teeth. Because Charles Haley said that your teeth are not bad. I've accepted, I got. They're just very little. I got rac- I got raccoon teeth. They're very little.

• 51:13Speaker 04

  Too solid, yeah.

• 51:14Channing Crowder?

  I've accepted my raccoon teeth, but, bro, you ain't have no help?

• 51:18Speaker 04

  Uh, being as far as the shit that I get involved with, like, I like that shit. So therefore, you feel me, if, I, it was, I think it got, it got to a point where it was like, I just was, you know, trying shit. You feel, okay, I like candy, I like skill, alright. Ay, uh, you know, motherf**ks got they, you know, their agents, and their agents, you know, within the company, they have, you know, the marketing team and shit, and it's like, ay. Uh, I like, I like candy. Hey, reach out to so-and-so and see if they wanna [__] with me. Okay. They reach out to him. Uh, nah, they don't wanna [__] with you. Alright, cool. Well, we got so-and-so who, like you, they wanted to... What they talking about? Oh, they want you... Nah, I don't do all that shit.

• 52:02Fred Taylor?

  He had a lot of hands, hands on on that?

• 52:04Speaker 04

  I'm good, so... Yeah, so when it come to it, it's like, oh, well, they wouldn't [__] with me. Alright, cool.

• 52:10Ryan Clark?

  Like, from the outside looking in, one, I'm a Marshawn Lynch fan. Right? And I'm a guy who didn't necessarily get to be himself until very late in his career. You know, and even in being that, it seemed almost adversarial to the public. But you went to a Super Bowl media day, and you said the same whatever amount of words the entire time. So no one advised you that, like, you know what, Marshawn? This junk can be smart.

• 52:41Speaker 04

  Who the [__] would advise you to do that?

• 52:42Ryan Clark?

  Uh, dumb ass mother effers.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Who would advise you to do that?

• 52:45Channing Crowder?

  What anybody want to do that? Goddamn, you want me to tell you that Subway? Skittles, all these mother [__] that give you a check, Sean?

• 52:53Speaker 04

  Look, they gon', they gon', they, they for sure gon', if you tell, if, if I would have known that and I, I'm sitting with my marketing team or whatever, and I'm like, hey, I'ma get up there and I'ma say the same shit over and over. That's if I had thought that far enough to be on that type of time. But, hey, yeah, so I'ma do this. What you think? They be sitting at me looking like...

• 53:15Ryan Clark?

  Sean, you showed a dumb ass side here. Sean, I've been at media day two times. I had a booth, and I ain't even gonna lie to you, dawg. When they walked me to the booth the first year, I was like, "These mother effers didn't gave me a booth. I'ma say whatever the hell I wanna say."

• 53:28Speaker 04

  Me exactly.

• 53:29Ryan Clark?

  Right? And so the second year, we're leading into the lockout, and we're expecting the Green Bay Packers to not do it. Right? So we waiting on that. So you mean to tell me, as important as that time is, Marshawn, you walk into that media day with no plan? I don't believe that shit, dawg. Like, I just... And that's like, you know, that's gonna be about one cursory for February, cuz I used them all in January when we on Channing.

• 53:55Speaker 04

  Nah, but real, real talk. Nah, this ain't, this ain't none of this shit planned. I told you I'm a running back. I gotta improvise. I gotta think, be able to think on the fly. I gotta be able to.

• 54:05Channing Crowder?

  I love that shit.

• 54:05Speaker 04

  My coach told me.

• 54:06Channing Crowder?

  I love it.

• 54:07Speaker 04

  He said, "Man, you got this water bottle half, uh, half full."

• 54:11Ryan Clark?

  Okay.

• 54:12Speaker 04

  And I said, "Okay." He like, "If you take the top off and you shake it," he said, "What's gonna come out of it?"

• 54:18Ryan Clark?

  The water.

• 54:18Speaker 04

  Everybody said, "Oh, air, uh, water." You feel me? Yeah, everybody got it. And he said, "No, what's gonna come out of it is what's in it." And I was like, "Oh damn, OG, that's some solid ass game." He said, "So you think about it. You go and put yourself in a position and you get rattled, shaken up, the true you gonna come out."

• 54:43Speaker 04

  So I always keep that in the back of my mind. So no matter whatever position that I'm in or whatever situation I go in, whatever the, whatever the truth about me is, when I'm in that situation, is what's gonna come out.

• 54:56Ryan Clark?

  Sean, what is the truth about you, though? What is it, what is it about you, about you that has allowed you to adapt to the atmosphere of what we want football players to be? And about what you are, that people love you? Cuz I'm just gonna, and this is me. Y'all can disagree, you can disagree, you can disagree. You had a quarterback who I feel like has meticulously manipulated his persona his entire life, right?

• 55:27Channing Crowder?

  Super Bowl, right?

• 55:28Ryan Clark?

  Right? And then you have you, who has completely been Marshawn Lynch. What made you comfortable in being that and being this successful? Or was being this successful not necessarily your goal and being you more important?

• 55:46Speaker 04

  To be honest with you, the, the, the, the plan has always been to.

• 55:50Channing Crowder?

  Where you come from?

• 55:53Ryan Clark?

  Hey, man, I do this.

• 55:55Speaker 04

  But the plan, the plan, I'm gonna just simplify. Keep shit simple. The simplest form that I could put it in was just to be able to take care of my family. And I mean, at the end of the day, I had a, I had a, I had a product that, you feel me though, that, that teams wanted. So I used it. And that shit, just to keep it on, shit, lame at times where.

• 56:18Speaker 04

  My could run that ball?

• 56:21Speaker 04

  Run, run.

• 56:24Fred Taylor?

  Hey, so I'mma, I'mma, I'mma cap it off really quick.

• 56:26Channing Crowder?

  Hold on, nah, y'all ain't gonna let, I'mma tell my story, Freddie.

• 56:29Fred Taylor?

  I'll let you tell your story, but let me.

• 56:30Channing Crowder?

  Bro, I'm telling my story.

• 56:32Ryan Clark?

  Before you ask, Shannon, my dog, tell your story.

• 56:35Channing Crowder?

  No, no, I'mma let Fred go first, because I'm ending it.

• 56:37Ryan Clark?

  No, tell your story, son.

• 56:38Channing Crowder?

  I'm ending it because I'm, we bout to game.

• 56:39Ryan Clark?

  Is the story that good?

• 56:40Channing Crowder?

  No, we bout to game so many people on this story. We bout to game the league, we bout to game college football, we bout to game athletics.

• 56:47Ryan Clark?

  So, I have a question then, though. Can I not talk about how week five of year 13? Marshawn, a question, Marshawn Lynch retired me?

• 56:57Channing Crowder?

  He knocked your ass out?

• 56:59Ryan Clark?

  No, he did not.

• 57:00Channing Crowder?

  First off. You knocked his spleen out.

• 57:02Speaker 04

  What happened?

• 57:03Channing Crowder?

  You knocked his spleen out.

• 57:05Fred Taylor?

  Let him tell the story.

• 57:05Channing Crowder?

  I thought you.

• 57:06Fred Taylor?

  Tell the story, bro, where you going?

• 57:08Channing Crowder?

  I thought you had sick of saying.

• 57:09Fred Taylor?

  Hold up, you ready to the bathroom?

• 57:12Channing Crowder?

  Sean.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  Bro, you got me, I'm trying to drink water and shit, man.

• 57:16Channing Crowder?

  You knocked out his liquor?

• 57:17Ryan Clark?

  Hey, so, I'm being honest, I'm being honest, right?

• 57:19Fred Taylor?

  You wanna tell the story?

• 57:20Ryan Clark?

  No, I'm just telling you, so, so, so the first, the first four weeks of the season, I'm going crazy.

• 57:25Fred Taylor?

  I see.

• 57:25Ryan Clark?

  Right? Leading the team in tackles, feeling good. So they run a zone read, I don't know who their center was at the time. He tries to cut me, I try to jump, damn ankle buckles right, so I'm like, you know, you know me, though, like, I'm tough. And you gonna put, so I'm trying to walk off, I didn't damn collapse, you know what I'm saying? So, we getting to the second quarter, Marshawn's running, bro, he hit me, and like, he's never trying to run me over. Right? And the other point is, this is, I'm not scared of getting run over. Like, I'm cool with that, but he got this damn lopsided ass, like.

• 57:59Channing Crowder?

  Did you let, did you let him get his foot in the ground?

• 58:01Ryan Clark?

  No, that's what I'm telling you, though.

• 58:02Channing Crowder?

  Don't let, don't let him get his foot in the ground now.

• 58:04Ryan Clark?

  Bro, he was killing me all night. There was a reporter, I almost got in a fight with, because he was like, you couldn't tackle Marshawn Lynch? And I was basically like, God, forgive me, you tackling me. Right? You know what I'm saying? Like, you tackling, right?

• 58:16Channing Crowder?

  Liam Neeson, good luck.

• 58:17Fred Taylor?

  They'll never do that.

• 58:18Ryan Clark?

  They don't let him do that, you know, and so like, it was like, the crazy point in my life is year 13, I'm 35 years old, and I'm thinking to myself, damn. You might not be able to do this anymore. You know, then I finished the year, I have a hundred tackles. I was like, damn, I was actually okay. That motherfucker was just better than me. You know what I'm saying, which I'm comfortable with.

• 58:43Fred Taylor?

  Nah, man, get up out of here, man.

• 58:45Ryan Clark?

  My favorite story is you, dawg. Is when you walked into the Pro Bowl lobby and goes, RC, don't be on that bullshit, bro.

• 58:55Fred Taylor?

  That's part of it. I was always a fan, right? Sitting over here on the sideline, I saw what you brought to the table. And the first time we met was out here in Vegas.

• 59:05Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 59:05Fred Taylor?

  With Big Stroud, Big Marcus and my old teammate. And we kicked it, it was all love, right? Big Stroud, shout out. But I'm sitting here hearing you, bro. I see the growth. You know, I see the passion for community, services and everything you do. I see international beast mode, you just growing, man. I love that. You speak about your mother. You speak about the kids and the community. Tenny and I, a few weeks ago, we spoke about, you know, our fathers.

• 59:45Fred Taylor?

  And I think, I don't know, I believe I read somewhere, you know, your background and your makeup and your father. What's that dynamic? What's your relationship, you know? I don't wanna.

• 59:58Ryan Clark?

  Nah, nah, you good. Nah, nah, you good.

• 1:00:00Fred Taylor?

  But I do wanna ask those questions to God. I know it excites you and I understand that it's definitely family. And I've been there myself. But I wanna ask you, what's your, the makeup, your relationship with your pop?

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  I ain't had one.

• 1:00:16Fred Taylor?

  I respect it.

• 1:00:18Speaker 04

  Blood was in jail, shit, majority of my life, man. You feel me, rest in peace. But shit, he passed, what, a couple of years ago while he was in jail. And I mean, you know, to the whole point where like, yeah, I mean, I, you know, I grew up. You know, I won't say shit, my action, you know, like real dad, like my momma, my daddy. You feel what I'm saying though, she played, you know, both parents in the household and some more shit. But you feel me, it was things about me in which, you know, I wanted to understand. And I mean, you know, just getting it from moms, you feel me though, it didn't let me get a, a full, uh, you know, a complete, you know, uh, observation of. Childhood and family. Of, of, of my makeup. Right. You know what I'm talking about?

• 1:01:02Speaker 04

  And I mean shit from, you know, I looked dead on the motherf- you feel what I'm saying though, so. Uh, it was a point where I got with my auntie and, uh, you know, I told her I want to get the paperwork to, you know, to go be able to see him, uh, so I could just have a conversation with him. Mm-hmm. You feel me, cause I mean, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I talked to him a couple of times while he was down and, you know, it was always a way that, you know, we could get in contact and shit and, you know, even from when I, you know, I had got a, I think the last time I physically, you know, laid eyes on him was at, uh, my grandmother funeral. And I mean, I think I probably was in year two or three of the year, I mean, uh, uh, of the league, but, you know, he never asked, he never asked me for no chicken, you feel me though, he never, he never asked me for no bread. And you feel me, I had folks that, you know, went to jail and shit.

• 1:01:48Speaker 04

  Like, hey bro, I ran into your, uh, I ran into your dad and then hella shit, you feel me, he hella cool and shit. What he say about you, bro? He just like, you know, that's my son and shit, but you know, I, you know, I wasn't there, but, you know, I'm proud of him, you know, he, they send a kite, you know, he send a kite to him when they, you know, touchdown and hella shit, so. But I had got, uh, I had got cleared to go in, uh, uh, to go in and see him and shit. So I was supposed to go and see him on a Monday and, uh, uh, you know, that Monday that, you know, I was supposed to go, I was out of town, so I was just gonna go the next day and, uh, you know, for the day that I got cleared and I was supposed to be in there. You know, we got a call, he like, hey bro, you sitting down? I'm like, yeah, why, what's up? He like, man, they just called, told me that, uh, you know, your dad had died in jail. Damn.

• 1:02:32Speaker 04

  And I'm like, ooh shit. Right. And you feel me, I ain't know how to feel, you know what I'm talking about, but, I mean, you know, through all, you know, all my shit or whatever, you know, with talking to, you know, all the family. Uh, it wasn't until I talked to my, my oldest brother that I think it really just hit me, like, oh shit, you know, this motherf- Gone. And I think it was because, you know, growing up, my older brother was who, you know, I looked up to who I wanted to be like and all the shit, so. You know, I think it was just talking to him and me, you know, having that outlook on him as like my father figure. I think that was when it really hit me. And shit, and I broke down. And I was like, damn, how could I break down for a motherfucker who, you know, was never there for me, this, that and the third, but.

• 1:03:16Speaker 04

  You know, it, it was a, it was a point like, regardless of all that, like, you feel me, this is my who helped create you type shit. So, I mean, you know, I looked at it at a, at a, at a, at a, a different, a different way, a different angle. And because I wanted to go in there and holla at blood about, you feel me though, just like, what's up? Cause I mean, you know.

• 1:03:35Channing Crowder?

  That's your daddy.

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  You feel me? But I know, but you know, I don't know, you feel me? Of anything, you know, I know about women, they, boy, they, you feel me? They gonna, they gonna show their emotions and their feelings and. You feel me? I don't know if moms would possibly seeing eye to eye while they with each other. You know what I mean? Moms go, you know, moms go, you know, moms go, moms go. Oh, boy, you acting just like your goddamn daddy and shit like that.

• 1:04:00Channing Crowder?

  He like, I don't even know that.

• 1:04:03Channing Crowder?

  You gotta see both sides of the story.

• 1:04:04Speaker 04

  And that was.

• 1:04:05Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  But I didn't, you know, I didn't get the chance to holla at him though, so.

• 1:04:08Channing Crowder?

  Do you think it'd be different, quickly? Do you think it'd be different if your dad was around? Would, would your life have been different if your dad was there?

• 1:04:15Speaker 04

  Uh, do I think it would be different?

• 1:04:19Channing Crowder?

  Do you ever, have you ever thought about like, what if it wasn't this?

• 1:04:22Speaker 04

  I don't think it would, I don't think it would be no, no different. I mean, you know, but only because I can't say I knew what type of. Individual he really was on, you know, on some throwing through shit. So if I'm going through something and you feel me, I got, you know, a father figure at home. Who, you know, depending on whatever it was he believed in and the principles and shit that he stood on. You feel me? I'm, I'm, I'm get, that would be something that he would try to instill in me.

• 1:04:48Channing Crowder?

  From competitive edge of guys in the league. So Sean, Sean was at, in the, in Buffalo.

• 1:04:54Speaker 04

  In the bill.

• 1:04:55Channing Crowder?

  And I played for the Dolphins, both in the AFC East. And when he came to Miami, we ride at Tootsie's. And when I came to Buffalo. We would go to Toronto. We'd ride to Toronto and go to, what was his name?

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  Sundowner or Seductible.

• 1:05:09Speaker 04

  Sun down to our seduction.

• 1:05:11Channing Crowder?

  Bruh, and it was crazy because we started going and then we went to the uh, we would go to the, to the, to the club. We'd hang out. Bruh, when we came out, we warm up. So eight games, twice a year. We hang out, we drink, we. They all kicking me? We kicking, we kicking Saturday night and we call, I call him soon as I land, he'll come as soon as he lands. And then before the game, what would we do? We come up, we dap up.

• 1:05:34Speaker 04

  We gonna show love.

• 1:05:36Channing Crowder?

  We'll show love and then for the next four hours, we want boys.

• 1:05:40Speaker 04

  It was fun. It was fun.

• 1:05:42Channing Crowder?

  Bruh, really, we want, like, we were bored, we'd hang, we'd party, partying offseason. And then once we got in that game, before the game, we both go up to each other, we slap hands and be like, "Bruh, I'll see you after the game." And Sean hit me in the chest, he bruised my sternum before.

• 1:05:58Speaker 04

  Go see, look, man.

• 1:05:59Channing Crowder?

  Cause you soft and light skin though.

• 1:06:00Speaker 04

  What he ain't gonna tell you, what he ain't gonna.

• 1:06:02Channing Crowder?

  Tell me, Sean, tell me, Sean, tell me.

• 1:06:04Speaker 04

  You know, you get the, you get the scouting report this, that and the third, so as you read the scout report, if you look at the scouting report, you gonna be like, "Okay, five dudes." Alright, you know, he, you know, kinda smaller, you feel me? But okay, it don't read nothing special on it, but what they don't put on that motherfucker is, this nigga is a dog. So that ain't in the, in the report, you feel what I'm talking about? So you going off that report, but my mindset at all times was always, I think these motherfuckers finna try to get me. So I'm always on my toes, but see though, what I didn't know was, I didn't know bro was packing punches like that though. And every time, bro, this nigga straight downhill.

• 1:06:46Speaker 04

  And so every time Fred, Fred tell, "Ay, look, I know it ain't in the scout report, but that nigga is a dog. He mean and he get down." Ay, look, but that was, that was, you feel me, I, there are certain players that I, you feel me, that I, that I like just off the respect of what they do. You feel me, and how they get down, and then there's players who, who you would never even know. With no name, you feel me though, no accolades, no nothing. And I respect them more than motherfuckers who got names and accolades and Super Bowls and the Hall of Fame and all this type of shit. But I, I remember. When I went and, when I went to go and kiss that Oh, he came back. He was coming with the shit. And then it wasn't just one time.

• 1:07:31Speaker 04

  But that's where that over and over and over and over and over. That's where that came from. Right. Because when I played against this motherf- I knew I had to do that. Because if I didn't, then I get my shit woke up. And I wasn't about getting my shit woke up. So I had to come with that shit. But early on, this is the individual who, you feel me? He made you realize that. Not knowing, intentionally like, oh, but, this is who I had to go in. I gotta go run against this mother- And pass, and he didn't want to pass, bro, because he coming down here. He ain't no goddamn moves. Ain't no moves, and no finesse, no nothing. I got some feet, Sean. I ain't got no feet. It's right here. It's right here. Sean, look at them shoes.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  Does anybody that wear them shoes care about footwork? You know, man. You can't care- You can't care about footwork in them damn socks. You know it.

• 1:08:22Fred Taylor?

  With that, with that-

• 1:08:23Speaker 04

  You know it.

• 1:08:23Fred Taylor?

  With that being said, right, this is the first show, and we've done a few on the pivot, where we've had someone, not someone, we've had a bad motherf- International Beast Mode vouched for this mother-

• 1:08:41Speaker 04

  Hey, no, no, no, no. Hold up. Hold up. Hey, look, look.

• 1:08:45Fred Taylor?

  I'm not done. No, no, no. I'm not done. Let me say, let me say it straight. I give you roses, bruh. I give you flowers, because Beast Mode said it. If it wasn't Beast Mode, that shit ain't validated.

• 1:08:57Speaker 04

  Nah, hell nah.

• 1:08:58Fred Taylor?

  It ain't validated. Rap, rap, this rap.

• 1:09:01Speaker 04

  But when we get outside, it wasn't no different. And then it's like, you know, you play against some- And they be, you know, they be cool, and then they get off the field, and then they be cornballs. You feel what I'm saying? And it's like, oh, okay. You a good ass player, but you really a- You really a noodle.

• 1:09:17Ryan Clark?

  I've got an opportunity to do a show with, uh, two of the realest people I know in my life. Fred's a Hall of Famer, but he's just an amazing dude. Channing's a dog. He's just like me. He just super light-skinned. This the first time, man, that I feel like, as three of us, we were just so excited to have somebody be a part of our show. I think you, we, I think you epitomize what we want to be. We want to be people who were thought of as one-way. That move in a different way and create a different lane for people that are just like us, man. So the, there's no way I could ever tell you how much we appreciate you, though. Like, I think, I think you're a Hall of Famer.

• 1:10:00Channing Crowder?

  I think I got something.

• 1:10:01Ryan Clark?

  Chan is gonna finish off.

• 1:10:02Channing Crowder?

  I think I got something.

• 1:10:03Ryan Clark?

  Much love, bro.

• 1:10:04Channing Crowder?

  Bruh, we going to the girl collection.

• 1:10:06Speaker 04

  You coming?

• 1:10:08Channing Crowder?

  Bruh, we gotta run it back, bruh. We gotta run it back, bruh. We going to the girl collection.

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  Man, he trying to bring it back.

• 1:10:16Channing Crowder?

  Come on, man, let's go, bruh. Man, let's go, man. Floyd invited us over there.

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  Aw, man.

• 1:10:21Channing Crowder?

  Floyd opened it up just for us. It might, it might be 10 of us.

• 1:10:24Speaker 04

  You ready to straight up?

• 1:10:25Channing Crowder?

  10 of us in the room.

• 1:10:26Speaker 04

  Man, you can't turn it down.

• 1:10:28Channing Crowder?

  Shaw, you know I gotta, you know I gotta watch out for you.

• 1:10:30Speaker 04

  You can't turn it down. You know he gonna come outside with this shit, man. Man, this love, man, respect.

• 1:10:37Channing Crowder?

  Man, I appreciate it, man.

• 1:10:39Speaker 04

  It's love, it's straight, always.