Malik Willis Dolphins QB, going from Tennessee to Green Bay to Miami, earning his shot to lead the franchise, unique demeanor as a QB, bond with Coach Jeff Hafley, lessons from Matt Lafleur & why leadership isn’t always loud.

“The league is about getting better, if you don’t, you are out.” -Malik Willis As NFL training camp officially wraps, now it’s time to see how some of the new faces in new places approach the 2026 season. We had the privilege of sitting with one of the break out stars over the past couple years who is getting his chance to be back leading a team. Miami’s quarterback, Malik Willis, joins The Pivot for a wide-ranging conversation about the journey that has shaped him both on and off the football field — from growing up with the foundation of good parents, finding his way through college football, and eventually making his way from Tennessee to Green Bay and now Miami. Willis opens up about the highs, setbacks, lessons, and growth that have come with chasing his dream of becoming an NFL quarterback. He reflects on his college path, the experiences that helped shape his game and his mindset, and the people who kept him grounded along the way. Now entering a new chapter as the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, Willis talks about the expectations that come with getting his opportunity to lead an NFL franchise. He discusses adjusting to a new team, a new city, and a new head coach, while embracing the responsibility and pressure that comes with being the guy under center. His bond with Coach Jeff Hafley has helped him grow into the leader the team needs especially with a young roster, specifically at wide receiver. But beyond football, the conversation gives a glimpse into the person behind the helmet. Known for his relaxed demeanor and calm presence, Willis talks about staying true to himself while navigating the noise, expectations, and scrutiny that come with playing quarterback at the highest level. From Tennessee to Green Bay to Miami, Malik Willis’ story is one of perseverance, patience, family, growth, and believing in yourself when the path doesn’t always go according to plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

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• 0:30Ryan Clark?

  Malik Willis doesn't have the demeanor of a rah rah leader. He's soft spoken. He's laid back. He's chill. But don't mistake quiet for complacent because underneath it all, there's a true competitor. A man who's been learning life's lesson since high school. A receiver as a junior, a transfer as a senior, and he was recruited to Auburn really late and then forced to transfer. He showed up to the NFL draft only to wait until the third round to hear his name called. And eventually he was traded from that team too. But every detour, every disappointment, every lesson learned, let him here. Signing a big time deal to become the Miami Dolphins franchise quarterback.

• 1:14Ryan Clark?

  We talked about the reality that life isn't fair. How long it took for Malik to truly learn the quarterback position, what Green Bay taught him, and what it meant to go back to Tennessee and get a win. And then the trust that Jeff Hafley has placed in him. This conversation just makes you feel good about people, about players, about second chances, and about people who lead the way Malik Willis does. Because Malik Willis is the kind of guy you just root for. And after this conversation, you'll understand why I say that. The Pivot Training Camp Tour makes its final stop in South Florida.

• 1:53Ryan Clark?

  So Pivot fam, please welcome Malik Willis as he joins me, Chan, and Freddie T for the last stop for the Pivot.

• 2:22Ryan Clark?

  What up, brother?

• 2:23Channing Crowder?

  That dog with his arms up.

• 2:24Ryan Clark?

  How you doing? He look fast.

• 2:27Channing Crowder?

  Huh? He look fast.

• 2:29Ryan Clark?

  What's happening, man? Good to see you, boy.

• 2:31Fred Taylor?

  That chill demeanor, man.

• 2:32Ryan Clark?

  I ain't gonna lie. If I had calves like that, I'd actually wear shorts.

• 2:35Fred Taylor?

  Those are fast people calves.

• 2:37Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, if I had calves like that, boy, I'd wear shorts.

• 2:40Channing Crowder?

  Damn, I'm amazed they ain't put you at linebacker.

• 2:42Speaker 04

  Man, that's what the linebackers be saying. They say you need to come over here with us.

• 2:47Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, man. Malik Willis, man, welcome to the show. Starting quarterback, Miami Dolphins. It's Channing Crowder. It's just Fred Telling, Ryan Clark. Pivot fam, thank y'all for pivoting with us. I'm gonna get to it, man. We have never, ever gone to a training camp, talked to a guy from a team, and have people universally say, "He is the nicest human I've ever met."

• 3:10Speaker 04

  That's a good compliment.

• 3:11Ryan Clark?

  I mean, everybody we met, from video staff to PR to coaches, talk about how great of a human you are. So it brings me to the question that I ask as a parent. What are your parents like? Because anybody like that gotta be raised a certain way.

• 3:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're the same way. I mean, you don't treat people different. We all got, you know what I mean? What you got. You all who you are. You gotta just hold that accountability to yourself to treat everybody different. I'm in the same way. I don't understand why you should treat somebody that's making this much money or this much money a different way. We all people at the end of the day and all this fate. Like all this bread, you can't take it with you. All the people that know your name, like none of that matter, bro. Like at the end of the day, like, and even when I talked to Leonard and them when they came, they was like, "Would you ever get in the media after?" I'm like, "No, bro. Like, I don't care to be known." Like, that's not why I do this. I do this, I have fun. I'm grateful for the ability God blessed me with, and I come out here and try to use it. The brotherhood that we make in there, you know what I mean? And you change your family's lives, like, that's awesome.

• 4:10Speaker 04

  You know what I mean? But that ain't why I do it.

• 4:12Ryan Clark?

  Really?

• 4:13Speaker 04

  That's cool, like, but I got enough, bro.

• 4:15Ryan Clark?

  So why do you, so why do you do it? Like, what is truly your why?

• 4:18Speaker 04

  Bro, I like competing, bro. Like, I like winning. I like going out there and I'm blessed with the ability to do something. Why not go do it? You know what I mean? And do it at a high level. Do it against the best in the world. That's literally what the NFL is, the best in the world. And that's why I like doing it. I mean, all the other stuff that come with it is cool, but like, I don't be wanting to like take pictures and stuff and sign stuff. But I be doing it.

• 4:40Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 4:41Speaker 04

  But I don't be like wanting to.

• 4:42Ryan Clark?

  So you don't like fame?

• 4:44Speaker 04

  Nah, that ain't, nah.

• 4:45Ryan Clark?

  You can't sneak around that size with dreads.

• 4:48Speaker 04

  Nah, bruh. That's why I'm, yeah, that's right. They just assume, but at the same time, like, nah, like, I don't care for it.

• 4:55Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. And as you, as you came through, your whole career, you transferred at every level, right? You transferred to high school, which I actually went to Roswell High School.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  No, say so.

• 5:06Ryan Clark?

  I went, well, you was, you probably was drinking milk. I went to Roswell High School, transferred to North Springs. You went to Westlake and transferred back, transferred to Roswell. And then you went Auburn Liberty. Like, all the movement in that, is that, did that kind of mold where, how you are? Because underdog to top dog to, you know, I know you say your parents did it, but that seemed like it could affect you in some way. And then in the league, you've been on three teams.

• 5:31Speaker 04

  Yeah. Nah, it just like, it literally just made you focus on the things that you can control. You know what I mean? Like, you can't control if you get in, but when you get in, you can control if you make a play. Like, you control if you go out there and have fun. And that's what I try to do. Like, you don't never know when it's gonna be over. Whether it's bar injury, whether it's bar, you know, you just get to that age and they don't want to pay you no more. It don't matter, like, and at every level, you just never know. So I try to take advantage of it. And I seen a couple guys when I was in high school that didn't get to take advantage of it and they had to stop playing for health reasons. And that really like made me think about it like, dang, like, it really could just be over. Like, you can't never play again. So I might as well have fun, bro.

• 6:10Ryan Clark?

  I gotta ask, let me ask about Roswell real fast. You went to Westlake.

• 6:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 6:15Ryan Clark?

  People that don't know Atlanta, Westlake. Westlake is a urban, people in Westlake listen to T.I. and Jeezy.

• 6:22Channing Crowder?

  Okay.

• 6:23Ryan Clark?

  People in Roswell listen to Garth Brooks. How in the hell did you go from Westlake to Roswell High School?

• 6:30Speaker 04

  Adaptable. I'm the same person regardless who I'm around. So it don't really too much matter.

• 6:36Ryan Clark?

  Well, how did, what, they recruited you? You moved?

• 6:39Speaker 04

  I had moved. I had moved. But my coach left at Westlake.

• 6:42Ryan Clark?

  Oh, okay.

• 6:43Speaker 04

  And I ain't have no offers going into my senior year because I only played the, what, after like the fourth or fifth game, I think we started off two and three. And I was at receiver because we had a transfer come in and they started him. And then after the fifth game, after we was two and three, I got to start. Then we start whooping folk. And then after the season, my coach had left and I was like, dang, I don't got no offers. We don't have a coach. We about to go into spring ball. I'm like, bro, what's going on? Then a couple of my dogs, they was at Roswell because one I grew up with and played at Old National, Sheldon Evans, he was up there. Xavier McKinney was up there. Lee Anthony Williams was up there. And a couple of other guys had transferred in the year before, but they left, like Quentin Neely. And then I had went up there after he left and two that just fit right in there.

• 7:27Fred Taylor?

  Like, bro, I'm taking my talents to Roswell.

• 7:30Ryan Clark?

  You started hearing all them names though? They still ain't win the chip?

• 7:33Speaker 04

  Hey, bruh.

• 7:34Ryan Clark?

  No, I'm just saying, that's.

• 7:36Speaker 04

  OT, OT, OT.

• 7:38Ryan Clark?

  Malik, that's a lot of names to not win the chip.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  It was the same on the other team. They had all the stars. We was the, you feel me, the three stars, except for X. X was a five star for sure.

• 7:48Fred Taylor?

  And Malik, I, I was able to get 13 years in in a, if I played with several quarterbacks. Some very talented, some drafted high, didn't pan out. Some great leaders, some just kind of, you know, lead right here. Some just kind of, kind of fit in with everybody else on the team and they just kind of succumb to that. To be a great leader, sometimes you have to be attentive, move with sense of urgency, have to be able to grab guys, and even have to be an asshole. Like, when you study the greats, the Kobe's, the Tiger, like, these guys come across or considered by their teammates as assholes, but they're only after one, one goal. And usually they get it. With all of the people saying, "You're so nice around here."

• 8:33Fred Taylor?

  Is there ever a time when that, when the asshole side kicks in or the side that shows that, that urgency to come out to demand these guys to be this way, to show your true leadership abilities?

• 8:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, you asked for that was in the building though. Not at practice. Because they, we, we have to do what we have to do when we out there because the defense don't care how we feeling. The defense don't care about the situations we in. The defense don't care what play we got called and if it's, it doesn't matter, bro. Like, and that's what I try to get across as soon as we, not to get into too much detail. Well, we, we've had talks about that and just the urgency that we have and that nobody's gonna give us anything. They don't care about the situation where they, they don't care about all the stuff that could be used as excuses. Like, there's no excuses and you should have no excuses and no regrets when you do this. Like, we should put everything that we can into this.

• 9:28Speaker 04

  Like, don't be worried about, just for example, when we going against the defense, they're like, "Oh, we should be running this play or this play." I'm like, "Bro, just be quiet." Like, focus on what we got to focus on. Like, we trying to focus on executing this play because we gonna need this play in week seven. You know, we not, because it's right now, we trying to beat the defense. And it's so we can figure out how to execute this play at a high level. And when we need it, we come back to it and we can use it.

• 9:54Fred Taylor?

  Correct.

• 9:55Speaker 04

  And it's, we got a lot of young guys on the team. So they like, they trying to win every rep and win every day. It's like, it's win, win is executing your job for that play. It takes all 11. I can't go out there and play by myself. Neither can any other player on offense or defense. So it's, it takes all 11 on one side. Obviously, defense, somebody can make an incredible play or a D lineman could get a sack, somebody busting coverage, it don't matter. But on offense, bro, it takes all 11. And I think that was the biggest thing to get across. And obviously, you gotta know how to communicate with people.

• 10:24Ryan Clark?

  Well, what, what did you say when you called the offense up the other day then? It's well documented because.

• 10:30Speaker 04

  But that's between us though.

• 10:32Ryan Clark?

  People know everything. Okay, so what? I, I accept that. What made you, because you talk, he's talking about the leadership. To me, that's an example of it. Right? You don't have to be this loud rah rah guy. You don't have to project this certain thing to the public. Kind of like you said, you talking to the people in the building, there's the teammates. What is it in you that you need to see from your team or you weren't seeing that you was like, "Nah, guys, let's get together." And you kind of gave, give them the same thing that you just gave us. Look, we have to be focused in this way. Because that's, that says a lot for a first year guy in his first training camp with a team.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  I mean, obviously, I came to him with respect. Like, obviously, I want to.

• 11:16Speaker 04

  Say something. I know I haven't earned the right at this point to say something. I haven't played no games. I haven't, all we had is training camp. But at the same time, if I don't say this, I wouldn't feel right. You know what I mean? It was more on that tip than just coming up like, oh, we need to be better. You know what I mean? And it's, holding yourself accountable, but like, cause I don't know if we like, it'll be okay. Too many it'll be okay's, you know what I mean? Like, it, it won't be okay at some point and we gonna be getting,

• 11:40Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Somebody gonna take advantage of our mistakes and it's like, we can't make the same mistakes. Obviously, yeah, somebody gonna mess up, bro. Like, I mess up. Everybody mess up. But at the same time, are we trying to correct it or are we caring about correcting it? And I think there's guys in that room that care about correcting stuff. And that's what's important, cause that's what, how you get better. That's what this league is. It's getting better. If you come in the same dude you was when you came in as a rookie, you probably ain't last that long. And if you did, you fine. But at the same time, like, you gotta keep getting better, cause everybody else is gonna keep getting better.

• 12:12Ryan Clark?

  You said something that stuck out to me, uh, talking, cause I was like, I'm gonna ask these many questions about Malik Willis before I sit down with him. Right? Cause there's so much you could study and then there's the people who get to be around him. That's why NFL teams, when they're evaluating you, they go talk to the people that work in the building. They talking to the janitor. They wanna talk to the lowest, to the highest. And one of the things that struck me was, somebody said, you need to, you even said you wanted to earn the right to be the face of a franchise. That you didn't want to just be put out there, that you had to go earn it. And just now, you just said, I had to, even though I haven't played and I haven't earned the right to do that.

• 12:56Ryan Clark?

  Most quarterbacks walk into the building, especially one that's a big free agent signing, and they ain't thinking about earning the right. They feel like they are entitled to the right based on the position. What gives you the perspective that it doesn't matter the position, it doesn't matter the contract? I have to earn the right to address these men who are working with me as their quarterback?

• 13:19Speaker 04

  Just the respect thing. I feel like, uh, I want to be respected more than I want to feel like I'm this person that you hold on the pedestal. You know what I mean? Like, when we play games against guys, I get more out of them being like, bruh, great job today, bruh. Stay healthy, have a great season, than I do from like, seeing like, uh, I don't know, one of our media reporters saying, the Dolphins offense looked good today. You know, I get more out of that from my competition, from my brothers and the people I go to work with. And I think that's where my mind is. Like, I'm gonna earn everything that I do. Like, I'm gonna work hard in the offseason. I'm gonna work hard when I'm here and when we get the opportunity to show it, then I'm gonna take advantage of that. If the Lord willing, obviously, but I just try to earn what I get.

• 14:02Speaker 04

  Cause when you given something, it usually don't last. But when you earn it, you can feel good about it and however it go, you good. You chilling. I put my best foot forward.

• 14:12Channing Crowder?

  But you gotta, you, don't you have to change your approach? Talking about earning, hitting them for 67. You've earned.

• 14:20Speaker 04

  That's a blessing, bro.

• 14:23Channing Crowder?

  But don't you, but you gotta change that, that, that get it from the bottom, grinding, get it from the mud approach. You not in the mud no more. Can you, do you have to change it all? Are you gonna change it all? And now they saying you're the face of the franchise. When you pop up on Monday Night Football, Sunday Night Football, it's gonna be your face and the other team's quarterback. It ain't been like that for you in your career. Don't you have to, don't you have to do something different?

• 14:48Speaker 04

  Nah, I feel like if, that's when people mess up though. When they start trying to do something different. If you don't go to work like you been going to work, how you gonna, you know what I mean? If you feel that complacency, how, you can't keep getting better. That's all I focus on every day. I'm gonna go out there and try to get better, whether it's a good day, bad day. It really don't make no difference to me. It's, when I go out in there, look at the film, like, oh, I could've did this better, or I could've did this better. It literally happened like 30 minutes ago. We had hit one, uh, in two minutes and, uh, he caught it, but it was on like one yard line with like 10 seconds left. And he tried to roll in there, but I think he got touched down. And I don't think we would've got down there and clocked it in time, but like, I'm like, ah, like, it was a good throw, but like a little higher he scored, you know what I mean?

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Like, those little things, I feel like that's what be important in those situations that you get into and, cause it's all reps at the end of the day. That's what I figured out. Well, it's hard to say that. But reps help a lot, you know what I mean? For me, at least. Just being out there and seeing it, because it's different than looking at it on the film. Obviously, you learn from the film, but being out there and seeing it, recognizing what you seeing, it's like, okay, now I get it. You know what I mean?

• 15:56Ryan Clark?

  Fred said, when, when you threw that ball, Fred said, get it up. So I'm just letting you know.

• 16:00Speaker 04

  I agree.

• 16:00Ryan Clark?

  He was critiquing.

• 16:01Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, he gotta run it. Like, you wanna see him up, right?

• 16:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:04Fred Taylor?

  It's a catch, that's good in that situation, but all quarterbacks want them to be able to run. And that's a, that's probably a touchdown right there.

• 16:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, but when we talk about holding accountable, and that start with ourselves. He probably holding himself accountable right now, too.

• 16:17Fred Taylor?

  100%.

• 16:18Speaker 04

  I am, for sure, too.

• 16:19Fred Taylor?

  I'm, I'm just a fan. I, you know, I don't know the plays. I, I'm just a fan. I, I, I feel like it could've been a better ball right there, bro. You know, if I'm your running back, I'm like, good, good shot. And then we'll get the next one. I'm gonna say this, because I don't like that team over there, and we went there, but, and they're always hospitable to us. They treat us great. The Tennessee Titans. They, they, they just took something away from me I was never able to get back. So I kinda don't really like them from a distance. Uh, that experiment, I ain't like that either, cause I'm a fan of you. But all things happen. It can be a blessing in disguise. You ever get an opportunity to be traded to Green Bay?

• 16:59Fred Taylor?

  Great coach in Matt LaFleur, great competitor, another great young quarterback in Jordan Love. That quarterback room, what did that teach you? What did Matt teach you or help you with in your development into a better quarterback than the guy you are here now? Which eventually cha-changed or shaped a new trajectory of your, of your career going forward?

• 17:21Speaker 04

  Um, it was cool, cause I already knew Jordan, cause we got the same agent. So that was cool. So it was already cool. And then Sean Clifford, we used to train together a lot in college. Yeah, Mogeta.

• 17:29Fred Taylor?

  Okay.

• 17:30Speaker 04

  Then, uh, yeah, Sean Clifford, we used to train together in college a little bit with Quincy, so that was all cool. We all knew each other, so it was like seamless, you know? We get in there, it's like, oh dang, what's up, y'all, boy? It's good to see y'all. You know what I mean? Been a minute. But, uh, it was cool getting in there. Uh, Matt, obviously, great dude. And he taught me the like importance of playing on time and, you know, why you have to stay on schedule more or less than going out there trying to make a play every time. Like, you make a play when you need to make a play. Other than that, you trying to just keep it in the road. You know what I mean? I think it was just the level of accountability. I think that was important. That's why I took that with me, holding yourself accountable more than always having an excuse or blaming it on something.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  And I think I took that to heart, obviously, when we go to practice. Not worrying about my situation that I'm in, more like, how am I getting better today? Like, I'm going against the one defense. Like, this is, who gonna be out there on the field on Sundays? So if I can have success versus them and build that confidence, then I can have success versus anybody. You know what I mean? And I think that building in general, and the guys that they had in there, they were the right guys. They obviously, uh, did what it need, what needed to be done to win games. And the consistency shows, as far as, you see guys in there on the off days, you see guys, uh, staying after and you see guys holding themselves accountable. I remember the first practice I had, I, I probably threw like a, I threw a hole shot and then he had dropped it.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  And he's like, no, that's on me, that's on me. And I'm like, dang, that's what's up. Not like, just gloss over it and just keep it pushing. Like, he wanted him, he wanted me to know like, oh no, like, that's on me, like, good ball, like. I'm like, dang, that's what's up. Like, you know, when you got guys that are not just a quarterback, holding themselves accountable. I think that's how you build something.

• 19:13Fred Taylor?

  Cause this is a training camp show, and there are some people way in the back that don't understand the, the terminology. So from a quarterback, what's on time and on, on schedule? And it's just for the people that watch.

• 19:25Speaker 04

  Uh, to say that, that's like, uh, we call a deep shot on first and 10. Uh, you check it down, you get, what, four yards? That's staying on track. Yeah, you wanna hit the deep shot, but the defense got a lid on the defense. And you don't wanna just throw it up in a double coverage or put the ball in jeopardy. And worst, best case scenario, you catch it. Second base case scenario, it's incomplete.

• 19:49Fred Taylor?

  Correct.

• 19:50Speaker 04

  Now you second and 10, now you playing behind the sticks, now you getting, depending on what defensive coordinator you playing, you getting second and long calls that may turn into like third down calls on the move. And now you putting yourself in a position not to be successful and convert that third down or you'll be third and long. And that's very hard to.

• 20:08Fred Taylor?

  It's off schedule.

• 20:09Speaker 04

  Get as far as the numbers goes and the analytics and all that type of stuff, but.

• 20:13Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 20:15Speaker 00

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• 20:44Ryan Clark?

  A lot of times we attribute that to when the quarterback takes that next step where athleticism and talent can't get you over the top every time. Right. It's just the understanding of, yeah, this is the play that's called, but this is the better execution that allowed my team to win. Um, you did something and it's funny because you know Fred talked about the transition to Green Bay. In 1925, I think it was, I think this dude named was Red Dunn. He scored a rushing touchdown against a team that traded him 34 days before that. I want to say you did it 27 days after you were traded from Tennessee to Green Bay.

• 21:28Ryan Clark?

  You threw a, you threw a touchdown, you rushed for a touchdown and a big win over Tennessee. You don't have, in my opinion, the, uh, I gotta go prove something to Tennessee personality. You feel like, to me, it feels like you're like, no, I just gotta go out here and play well and try to help my team win. And I, and I think that's what I'm getting from you. In going back to Tennessee though, and being able to execute an offense that short, you started the week before, I think against the Colts. Being able to execute that offense to that high of a level in such a short time. What were you able to learn about yourself and your mental capacity to play the position?

• 22:10Speaker 04

  I mean, it, it goes to satellite. You gotta be grateful for your situations regardless of how it go. I mean, I got a new offense every year in Tennessee, literally, literally. I learn a new offense every year. I got one West Coast, I got one Mike point like McDaniel up in, uh, at the Patriots. And then I had one more like old school pro style. And I'm like, dang, man, that's it. Like that's what the league is running outside of like two teams, I think. And it's like, dang, like this is similar to some of the stuff I've learned. Okay, that's cool. And then you just start to put two and two together. And I've had to do that year after year. And it's like, okay, I just gotta do it faster.

• 22:46Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 04

  And you basically try to learn the game plan. Then you try to continue to build on the installs as the weeks go. But that was crazy. That was a quick turnaround for sure. I was like, oh, I just got here. I'm still in the hotel.

• 22:57Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. What was it like though, after that game? You mentioned when your, your peers and your opposition or your competition walks up to you and says, hey, man, like, good job, man. Or, or, you know, great game. What was it like three weeks after being traded from a team to go out and play well and beat that team and see some of those guys, some of your old teammates after the game?

• 23:23Speaker 04

  Oh, it was cool to see my dogs, man, for sure. It was cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they was, they was all happy for me and I thought that was cool. You know, they, obviously they didn't win the game, but they were still happy for me and the situation that I got put in and being able to take advantage of it. And I thought that was cool, especially, uh, you know, from top to bottom. You mean, all the young boys that I had just met in, uh, you know, training camp and stuff? Cause I was there for all that.

• 23:48Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 23:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was cool and I'm grateful for them, for those relationships and all that type of stuff, man. It was, it was what's up.

• 23:54Ryan Clark?

  Yeah. He, he's, he's actually a better man than me though. Cause you know, he was talking about, talking to Leonard and, uh, Jarvis. And, uh, they asked him about having a fair chance and he was like, life ain't really fair.

• 24:07Speaker 04

  Nah, it's not though. He'd be lying if he said it was.

• 24:13Ryan Clark?

  How much of your journey shaped that perspective? And how much of that is just you trying to stay within the reality in which you're living in the present?

• 24:23Speaker 04

  A little bit of both. I mean, I was definitely taught young, at a young age, what's going on, but. Then the journey that helped like in as far as my journey went for sure. But nah, man, everything ain't fair. I got to learn that early, so.

• 24:39Channing Crowder?

  Were you developed correctly, you think, through your career?

• 24:43Speaker 04

  Probably not. They just let me do whatever.

• 24:44Channing Crowder?

  But I was just, I was just gonna say, I was gonna say.

• 24:47Fred Taylor?

  Experiment.

• 24:49Channing Crowder?

  You, you the only quarterback with dreads in the league.

• 24:53Channing Crowder?

  Lamar, you talk alike, like athletes, they just say, oh, go athlete. Do you think, I'm talking about high school, college, all like as you come through and even when you got to the league, were they telling you to go athlete?

• 25:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just like, yeah, have fun, man. Do your thing. And, uh, it obviously kind of set me back a little bit, not, nothing against them, but more or less like, like in college, I was understanding coverage and like we, we go up on a film where I can tell you any coverage, but it's like, I wasn't, I didn't have the plays that I had to really like worry about that. There's a lot of people aggressive, a lot of RPO in college. But then I got to the league and the play was, uh, the play may be you need to know which coverage to play what side. And then you need to know what you need to say in the huddle. Then you need to know what cadence you want to go on. Then you need to know, you know, on this play, it might be coming from this side,

• 25:48Speaker 04

  but on this play it's coming from this side, just depending on who you tag. And I thought all that was what was different. Getting in the huddle every time and having to really like see this play before it comes in versus getting signaled something from the sideline. And it's not that you don't know it, you just don't know what you don't know. And you, some people don't have time to get, you know, up to speed before they get put on the field. That's just unfortunate. Like you say, everything ain't fair, but I think it's been awesome that I got to sit back really and like just get up to speed. And then learning the new offense has really helped, especially the mic point system, because you have to be sure on every front and you make every point, whether it's the run game or the pass game. I thought that was the coolest thing. I felt like, yeah, that's when you feel like you, you, you a quarterback out there.

• 26:33Speaker 04

  You know, you really running it.

• 26:34Channing Crowder?

  And that's the one thing they always get on the mic'd up too though.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:37Channing Crowder?

  58's the mic.

• 26:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, that was cool though. Uh, and it taught me so much as far as defensive structure and how it's all based off the, uh, filling the gaps for the run. And like, cause if you, you don't stop the run, you probably won't be a DC too long. You know what I mean? But, uh, I thought that was cool and I just learned so much and I just got to keep learning without having, well, getting able to go out there and, uh, play. So the next time I got to go and play, I wanted to try to take everything I learned and be able to like utilize it, but not like paralyze myself. I think that was a little bit early. Like you taking in so much information, it's like, okay, all right, this nigga's inside leverage. I'm like, okay, they're staying too high. And but you don't got time for that, bro. You gotta play football. You know what I mean?

• 27:21Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 27:21Speaker 04

  Like you gotta play football. But once you get enough reps and get enough seeing it, like, I don't know how many nickel pressures Sim, I done seen since I've been in the league or how many different variations of quarters I done seen since I've been in the league, but you start to see it. It's like, oh, you know what I mean? A little easier to, well, or you look at one thing, you like know the whole coverage. And I'm like, bet. Like, you know what I mean? That make it a lot easier. But it's just continuing to learn and grow. Like I'm not perfect. Obviously they get me too. I think they got me yesterday in the walkthrough. I was so mad. I was so mad. Bobby was like, it's okay. It's a walkthrough. I was so, I was hot, but at the same time, if we don't go through that, how you gonna learn?

• 28:01Channing Crowder?

  Right.

• 28:02Speaker 04

  And that's the, that's the world we live in. Media put pressure on coaches and ownership and GMs and it's just tough, bro. But they used to let you develop, let you get right and then, then see what you do.

• 28:15Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 28:15Speaker 04

  But now it's, you know, they gotta throw you out in that fire.

• 28:18Ryan Clark?

  Is that why you said they might've been right about you going 87?

• 28:22Speaker 04

  86. Yeah, low key.

• 28:23Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 28:24Speaker 04

  My ability was just, it took me some time to learn it. It did, uh, and master it. Cause learning it wasn't the issue, it was being able to master it. Cause you can learn something like, you can learn, you can learn how to do a math equation, but if you don't know why, if you're not showing your work every time the right way, the more difficult it gets, it gets harder to prove. You know what I mean? Like two plus two four are easy, but then you do, you know, some complex math problem. Now you gotta really show your work. You like, ah, was it this or was it this? And you might know how to do it, but it's taking you longer to get there. You just gotta master it though. You gotta be able to handle it as soon as it, you know what I mean? So I thought that's what I needed time to get right.

• 29:05Channing Crowder?

  I gotta ask you, cause we had something else in common. We were, had people saying we're going in the first round and we both went in the third round. Was you hot during the draft? Cause everybody's like, you're in the NFL. Man, F them people, man. I'm my first round. Were you, were you, were you mad? Cause at one point I saw you going number two.

• 29:21Speaker 04

  Yeah. I wasn't mad. I was just like, like I ain't know what to expect anyway. Like I ain't really seen nobody get drafted outside of, uh, I think my uncle got drafted, but I wasn't there for that unborn. I ain't seen nobody, I don't know how that's supposed to go. I was never like one of those guys that'd be like, oh yeah, as soon as I get ready to come out of college, I'm going to the league. I was just happy to go to college. I was like, oh yeah, that's what's up. And then I was like, they was like, oh yeah, you might got a shot at the league. I was like, hey, all right, that's right. You get to keep playing. Then they was like, oh, he might go first round. I'm like, all right.

• 30:00Speaker 04

  What's up? Well, I ain't never know. Like I just like playing ball. And I don't know what they be looking at and all that type of stuff. I know I played against some folk that got drafted high. And I know when I was at Auburn, I played against boys that got drafted high. And I was like, I can play with them.

• 30:16Channing Crowder?

  Hmm.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  But at the same time, I just be competing where we at. I ain't worry about all that. You can't control that.

• 30:22Fred Taylor?

  Right. I think this, uh, this entire fraternity is a, is a beautiful space. Lots of ups and downs, pitfalls and a lot of joyous moments. Definitely blessings can change our lives. Um, but, and you've had that, like you've had a roller coaster like career, a lot of highs, a lot of, well, some lows. From your draft, uh, what's been your highest high and your lowest low? And how have you been able to, or what did you do to, to find that balance?

• 30:51Speaker 04

  Um, probably after getting drafted, being able to like take care of my folks a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Cause that's more money than you ever had in your life. And I got the NIL too. That was the first year NIL. That helped.

• 31:02Fred Taylor?

  Did you take a pay pay?

• 31:04Speaker 04

  Um, for NIL?

• 31:05Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  It was the first year and they ain't have no idea. And then I was at Liberty. It wasn't like I was at no big school.

• 31:10Fred Taylor?

  Okay.

• 31:10Speaker 04

  I was grateful, you know? And then I got to take care of my folk a little bit. That was cool. But that was it. That's a high. Uh, low probably like.

• 31:21Speaker 04

  Probably like my third year when I was in Tennessee. That training camp and offseason. Cause I felt like I was hooping. I was playing good, boy. And I was like, dang, I'm getting less reps. Why?

• 31:35Speaker 04

  But then it's like, you can't control that. And my dad did a good job, ran me in, cause I was going crazy, boy. Cause I was like, dang, bro, I'm playing good, but I'm getting less reps. How it work? I thought you do better, you get a shot. And like I said, everything gotta be fair. And that don't matter is, are you getting better? When the opportunity come, that's what you can do. Cause that's what it is in the league. I feel like, uh, practice is cool. And obviously that's where you build confidence. And that's where you get the trust of your coaches and whatnot. But at the same time, like you getting based off the game. It's a results based league. That's the reality of it. And that's what it is.

• 32:09Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 32:10Ryan Clark?

  When, you know, the Dolphins hire a new GM and a new head coach, and both of those individuals come from Green Bay. Obviously Jeff Hafley was the defensive coordinator. He probably got to see more of you than anybody. Right? Because every week you were emulating the quarterback they'd be playing against. And, you know, you talked about sim pressures, fire zones. You were seeing all of those things from him defensively and, and learning. You know, on the field, you know, he told us, he said, you know, the thing that people were gonna learn about Malik is actually how smart he is. Because he'll get an opportunity to get those reps. What does it mean that people who actually got to be around you

• 32:55Ryan Clark?

  and see you work daily? What does it mean for them to say, this is our quarterback? This is the guy we want to start our new tenure in Miami with?

• 33:06Speaker 04

  Can't do that, but be grateful. And keep doing what you been doing. Cause you must be doing something right if somebody that is around you. Not somebody from the outside trying to make some, you know, reality come true. But like somebody's been around you. That's what they see in you. And you doing something right. You know what I mean? That's not nothing negative to, you know, the media and them trying to make the best what they can. That's something like, oh, he's seeing it, like the ups, the downs, the good, the bad. And understanding that if given the opportunity, you know what I mean? And I'm like, dang, that's what's up, bro. I appreciate it. And I, I took that personally. And I was very grateful, uh, the opportunity he gave me. And, uh, obviously, like I said, I still wanted to earn it.

• 33:49Speaker 04

  And you just appreciate that.

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• 34:22Ryan Clark?

  I have a, so I am, uh, you know, we talk about our experiences shaping us. You're someone, like you said, in high school at Westlake, there was a quarterback that transfers in, so you're playing wide receiver. At Auburn, you're behind Jarrett Stidham. Bo Nix is coming in the next year. Gus Malzahn is probably like, say, bruh, like this dude got a legacy here. He's probably gonna play.

• 34:49Speaker 04

  That was the first time I really like, knew about all that type of stuff.

• 34:53Ryan Clark?

  Something like that.

• 34:53Speaker 04

  Like I just didn't even know, like, I didn't really know that many people that was in college, like playing football. I didn't know that many people that was in the league playing football outside of my uncle. So like, I didn't have no like idea about all that stuff. And I didn't go to no camps and stuff, cause camps and traveling to camps is expensive. You know what I mean? And it's like, I thought, you know, you just work hard, you play good and you start. But it really be more than that. And it's not always a good or a bad thing. It's sometimes just how the way things go. And that was the first time I really was like, dang, like what did I do wrong? And it's like, you ain't do nothing wrong. It's just how it go. So you just gotta take advantage of whatever opportunity you can get. And that's what I got at Liberty.

• 35:35Speaker 04

  I mean, there weren't that many schools in the portal looking for me though. I didn't have no film and I wasn't a high recruit. So it's like Georgia State, Troy, or Liberty. And I'm like, dang, that's crazy. I thought that was gonna be more than that. I've been hooping. Like I've been, I've been doing good against the ones. Like I've been, I've been doing well. I've been doing all right. Like ups and downs. But it was like, dang, bruh, like, what? And then I go to Liberty. Obviously I choose there and I felt like that was the right choice for sure. Like, and that was the choice that God had for me. So, cause that was like, uh, the, uh, the, uh, like they have a verse on the indoor. And that jump was on my, uh, verse of the day on my Bible app.

• 36:20Speaker 04

  And I was like, oh dang, I gotta come here. It's like, uh, the second Corinthians where he's like, where there's, uh, the spirit of the Lord, there is liberty. And I was like, dang, that what's up? I said, I gotta come here now. Like, all right. It was real easy after that. And then it's like, well, I just might as well have fun. I mean, obviously it wasn't too many people came out of Liberty. And I was just like, I might as well have fun, you know? And then I just got to play ball. We won some games. I was like, see? I wasn't crazy.

• 36:52Ryan Clark?

  Quincy Avery, I read something where he said in that, uh, somebody we know well. By the way, Quincy, we would've been better at the opening if you were a better offense coordinator. Me and Chan did our thing on the defensive side of all. I don't know what you want us to do. That's just personal. We talk about that later. Uh, I read something though where he said, um, you didn't look at that situation as to what was done to you. You looked at it as to what can I do better at the next spot? If this the first time you ever dealt with maybe the politics or bureaucracy of football, how are you able to look inward and not outward and become a victim in that situation?

• 37:37Speaker 04

  Ain't nothing gonna happen to you being a victim. Ain't nobody gonna care. You know what I mean? You can be a victim, but you're just gonna be one. Ain't that gonna change?

• 37:48Speaker 04

  Just like nothing you could do.

• 37:49Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 37:50Speaker 04

  Just accept either work hard or not work hard. I could've just stopped and did whatever. But nah, like, I mean, it's still opportunity to go graduate. I'm the first person to graduate in my immediate family. So that was what's up too. You know what I mean? I'm grateful. It ain't no reason to be tripping over stuff that you can't control. I mean, as long as I wake up, I be pretty much cool.

• 38:12Ryan Clark?

  He might be cool as hell.

• 38:14Fred Taylor?

  Yeah.

• 38:15Channing Crowder?

  When you real, real, real mad, what do you do? Crunch your toes up in your shoe? Bite your knuckle?

• 38:21Speaker 04

  Nah. When I'm real mad?

• 38:23Channing Crowder?

  Like I'm talking about you fire hot.

• 38:25Speaker 04

  No, I just gotta get by myself for a minute.

• 38:27Channing Crowder?

  And what do you do?

• 38:29Speaker 04

  Just breathe?

• 38:30Channing Crowder?

  Like Arthur.

• 38:33Channing Crowder?

  Hey, you brush your hands like, Arthur, what did he get mad?

• 38:36Speaker 04

  Nah, I just play a little game on my phone or something. Chill.

• 38:39Channing Crowder?

  That's cool.

• 38:41Speaker 04

  I really too often get like super mad though.

• 38:44Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 38:44Speaker 04

  And the only time I really get mad, it'd be on the field. Outside of that, bro, like what we really getting mad at, bro?

• 38:50Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  Ain't too much, bro.

• 38:53Channing Crowder?

  You, you done lived enough life to know that.

• 38:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, bruh, stuff can always be worse.

• 38:58Ryan Clark?

  That's a bar.

• 38:59Speaker 04

  Man, and how I grew up versus like how I live now is like, bruh, we chilling. We chilling. And I ain't even know we wasn't chilling then.

• 39:09Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 39:09Speaker 04

  But that's what I'm saying, like, I don't know, bruh. I don't got no voice to feel. I'm chilling.

• 39:16Fred Taylor?

  With, with that, you said you don't have no voice to feel. So were you trying to prove people wrong or trying to prove you right?

• 39:26Speaker 04

  Nah, I feel like, I don't know, bruh. Like people, I feel like in general, like,

• 39:32Speaker 04

  some people try to like feel voice within their life. The love I got from my parents and my siblings and my family. I feel like that gave me enough like, that I'm like, good. Whatever I'm doing, like I'm good. You know what I mean? I was never like searching for some like, oh, he needs to be like, I need to be told good job. I need to be told this or that. It was always like, nah, like I'm enjoying whatever I'm doing. I'm grateful for it. I always got my family, I can come back and they care about me regardless. And that's why I started to see like people.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  People come and go, like up and downs. They disappear, they pick back up. I was like, how you doing? Like, oh, you want to do this for me or this? I'm like, bro, I ain't talked to you in like six years, bro. But like, I don't know, I never had no voice to feel. So I was just always focused on what I was doing. And I try to be focused on what I'm doing. Obviously, outside of God and my family. And that's football. So I just be chilling, working. It's a great life, bro, if you don't let it beat you down.

• 40:34Ryan Clark?

  Speaking of that, you come to Miami and immediately, they trade away your number one receiver. Or they trade away this team's number one receiver. It's going to be a young receiving corps for you and Bobby Slowik, the offense coordinator. There's obviously Achan in the backfield, who's an absolute superstar. There is going to be growing pains this year. Along with your talent, I believe that your temperament is a big reason why Jeff Hafley brought you in. Your ability to stay even keel. How important is that going to be for you? Because you said you only really get mad on the football field. On a team that will have some ups and downs and some growing pains in your first year

• 41:19Ryan Clark?

  and Jeff Hafley's first year, how important is your temperament to remaining even keel to the leadership of this team?

• 41:27Speaker 04

  It got to spew out to every possible person that's attached to this thing. And we got to understand where it's coming from. It's not never coming from a place that's negative. And it's always coming from a place where these are the things that we need to do in order to do this. You know what I mean? We want to keep doing this. Regardless, if you have a little dip, you want to just stay on this trend, this upward trend. And that's learning from the mistakes. And when you can learn from the mistakes, you don't do them again. That's what we got to get to, not just keep repeating the same mistakes. Because that's how you get taken advantage of. You know what I mean? So it's more that than anything. And the even keel, I mean, all you can do is what you can do. And you try to go out there and do it to the best of your ability.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  And I think I try to do that every play I get. And you put that on to the guys, the young guys that maybe don't know different, maybe came from a different, it was different in college. And it was always the man and whatever they say go. Or it was this and they had a certain way they did things. Like, no, like, we got to do the right thing, bro. Like, it's the little details that matter. And that's what we see again and again at the highest level in whatever championship game or whatever first game of the season or whatever preseason game. Nothing changes except the venue and more people watching. Whether it's practice, it's the little details that literally get the play going. And when we understand that, now it's just building on that. And the reps, the execution, it'll follow.

• 42:56Ryan Clark?

  You are impossible to dislike.

• 42:59Speaker 04

  Nah, probably, I'm, yeah, I'm probably aggravating some folk.

• 43:02Ryan Clark?

  I don't, I don't know none of those folks at all. Like, I mean, just the, the way that you,

• 43:10Ryan Clark?

  the way that you present your thoughts in a very authentic way that I don't have to try to be something I'm not in order to be accepted. I think that's the one thing that locker rooms gravitate towards. Right? A level of authenticity and ability to, to be the same way and consistency every single day.

• 43:33Channing Crowder?

  I just want to say, bro, we went to Green Bay for the draft a couple of years ago.

• 43:37Fred Taylor?

  I already know where he going there.

• 43:39Channing Crowder?

  To Nashville. Nashville don't have the people I enjoy. Now you're in Miami. You want to give me a call where I can slide or? You go out or you?

• 43:50Speaker 04

  Off-season, man. Nah, I don't really be going out, though.

• 43:52Channing Crowder?

  You don't go out?

• 43:52Speaker 04

  I be playing the game. Or I be chilling.

• 43:54Channing Crowder?

  The pressure of being in one of these big cities, you've seen people, so not just you, but your teammates. Like, do you understand what Miami is? And that, hey, you smell like Hennessy right now. We need to talk.

• 44:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. And I don't think we got those type of guys around.

• 44:10Channing Crowder?

  All them boys in there?

• 44:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:12Channing Crowder?

  Ain't nobody sliding?

• 44:13Speaker 04

  No, no, no, you can slide, just do it the right way. Because you, bro, you grown, do what you want to. But we hold you accountable when you come in here, too. You know what I mean? And it ain't never going out and enjoying yourself. Because there's a lot of beautiful women down here. But at the same time, like, you got to keep the main thing the main thing.

• 44:33Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 44:34Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, I agree with you. Could love to be his teammate, right?

• 44:38Ryan Clark?

  You can't dislike it, bro.

• 44:39Fred Taylor?

  My last one on the way out, because your demeanor, everything so chill.

• 44:44Fred Taylor?

  Set the scene. Monday night football here at Hard Rock Stadium against a division rival, Pats. What's in your headphones? Killer mic, some Atlanta stuff?

• 44:57Speaker 04

  It could be anything.

• 44:58Fred Taylor?

  Easy like Sunday morning Lionel Richie, Saturday? You chilling?

• 45:03Speaker 04

  Nah, I got so much music. That's all I do, though. All I do is listen to music. It could be anything, though. Like, it could be like some underground rapper in Atlanta you ain't never heard of. It could be like Rake Baby or B6 or one of them. Or it could be like Future or Thug. It could be Gunna, it could be, it could be really anything. Like, Rile Low Cap. I'm telling you, it might be some old school. I might be on that footsteps in the dark. You know what I mean? I could be on anything. Like, I put it on shuffle and just let it rock out. It could be some gospel.

• 45:31Fred Taylor?

  Right.

• 45:31Speaker 04

  I'm like, take me to the, yeah. I'm telling you. It could be anything, bro.

• 45:37Fred Taylor?

  You got Ross and Trick Daddy down here.

• 45:39Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, facts, facts. That's old school, though. Apple in my eye. I don't know, too much.

• 45:42Fred Taylor?

  That is true. You got it.

• 45:44Ryan Clark?

  Nah, man, this, this has been extremely enjoyable, man. For you, what does, as we leave, what does success look like for Malik Willis and the Miami Dolphins this year?

• 45:57Speaker 04

  Success is if I go out there and take advantage of the opportunity I'm given. That's it.

• 46:03Speaker 04

  That's put my best foot forward, doing what I'm supposed to do and bringing others with me. Because that's what it's called of me. You know what I mean?

• 46:10Ryan Clark?

  I mean, that's all we need, man. I appreciate your time. I saw Jarvis say, you know, that you got the right temperament for this. And I absolutely believe you do. But I also believe, like, you got the talent, the skill, the mental capacity for it. And I'm excited to see you get the reps that you need to be a starting quarterback. Because after what I was able to see against Chicago last season, against Baltimore, especially over 350 yards produced. It's going to be exciting for the Miami Dolphins fans, brother. Appreciate you. Hey, he's the, he's so.

• 46:45Channing Crowder?

  Man, come on.

• 46:48Ryan Clark?

  He's the nicest.

• 46:50Channing Crowder?

  Appreciate you, G. Yeah. I'm happy at every game.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yes, sir.

• 46:56Ryan Clark?

  Wait, did you, did you run, slinging it out?

• 46:58Channing Crowder?

  Yeah.

• 46:58Speaker 04

  Nah, I had a bruise on my fourth and fifth metatarsal. So I ain't running. That probably ain't helped me neither. Because I would have ran fast and I would have jumped high. I did everything.

• 47:06Ryan Clark?

  But see, though, the only reason I was asking, though, because I knew you fast, I would have hated for them to be like, shoot, he might be to play something else.

• 47:13Speaker 04

  I like what they did to Lamar.

• 47:14Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, you know, you know what I'm saying?

• 47:15Speaker 04

  Facts. That was rough. That's going to be crazy, bro.

• 47:18Ryan Clark?

  Well, you know, it's.

• 47:21Speaker 04

  It's how it is, though. They don't understand that.

• 47:23Ryan Clark?

  Yeah, but when you, when you're film at proving you can do. Oh, really? Yeah. You're bigger than I thought you were.

• 47:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:31Fred Taylor?

  Tall as hell.

• 47:32Ryan Clark?

  Yeah.

• 47:32Fred Taylor?

  Built like.

• 47:33Ryan Clark?

  Well, he said, he was over six foot. But I'm just saying, like, even.

• 47:36Fred Taylor?

  Yeah, he built like a fucking running back.

• 47:38Ryan Clark?

  225, though.

• 47:39Fred Taylor?

  For sure.

• 48:04Speaker 05

  Every game day, you show up for your team. Now, it's your time.

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