Pod Insights The Moth Bonus Episode: The Moth Wrapped About this episode We take a look back at some of the stories that most resonated with our audience. This episode was hosted by Sarah Austin Jenness.
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Wilderness guide Monte Montepare takes inexperienced hikers on a glacier expedition.
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2:00 Speaker 02 Welcome to the Moth Podcast. I'm Sarah Austin Jenness. The year is coming to a close, and on this special bonus episode, we're reflecting back on the stories we shared in 2024, because we shared over 250 of them on this podcast. Yes, 250 stories. Some of the stories were laugh-out-loud funny, some were heartbreaking, some surprising, and profound. Maybe some of the stories made you see things in a different light. Thank you for listening and for sharing these podcast episodes with your friends. We love it. And we thought it might be fun to highlight some stories that most resonated
2:40 Speaker 02 with you, at least according to the vagaries of the social media algorithm. So we made a video compilation of our most shared stories. A moth wrapped, if you will. A moth cocoon, if you will, even more. Moth wrapped, get it? Anyway, you can find the list and the videos on the Moth's Instagram, @MothStories, where you can follow us for more great moth videos, news, and yes, stories. We also have a link in the episode description. And now, from your 2024 Most Shared List, Monty Montipar. Monty told this at a moth mainstage
3:20 Speaker 02 at St. Anne and the Holy Trinity Church in Brooklyn, where the theme was "Slate of Hand." Here's Monty live at the moth.
3:34 Speaker 03 At 23 years old, I was in my third season working as a glacier guide in Alaska. I took people hiking on glaciers, ice climbing on glaciers, and that spring, I had successfully summited the 16,000-foot glaciated volcano that looms over town. I was feeling very confident in my skills in the mountains, and I could finally grow a full beard. So when my friend Elizabeth asked if I wanted to be her assistant on a fly-in base camping trip, I said, "Oh, yeah, that sounds super chill."
4:15 Speaker 03 She told me the four clients were the women that I had met that afternoon on the deck of the guide service. They were decked out, head to toe, in brand-new Arc'teryx rain gear. Which is a red flag. Not only is Arc'teryx the Prada of outdoor equipment, but generally speaking, the newer the gear, the less the experience. Which was exceptionally true in this case. They were from New York City. And had never been camping.
4:59 Speaker 03 They had never slept in a tent. I lived in a tent. Elizabeth said, "Yeah, that's why they want you along." She said, "They really like the idea of a full-bearded Alaskan along to protect them from the wilderness." How could I say no? Flying base camping is like car camping with a bush plane. So, all six of us get into an airplane the size of a minivan with wings. We fly for 40 minutes over forests, and rivers, and mountains, and glaciers,
5:41 Speaker 03 some of the wildest landscape on the planet. And the plane lands on a little gravel strip in a giant valley next to an even bigger glacier. We're surrounded by snow-capped peaks dripping with ice. There's these babbling creeks, beautiful green alpine. I'm pumped, because I just got a free plane ride to a place I've never been before. Our clients are in a state of shock, and awe, and stimulation overload. And as the plane leaves and goes out of sight, I watch all four of them have the gut-wrenching realization
6:25 Speaker 03 that they just paid somebody to strand them out here.
6:31 Speaker 03 They wanted their own personal space because it was the end of a long trip. So they each wanted their own tent. But they also wanted to sleep next to each other because they were afraid of camping.
6:44 Speaker 03 So I set up four identical tents, wall to wall, like a nylon apartment building in the wild.
6:56 Speaker 03 And that night Elizabeth cooked dinner and I entertained and their first night out was like an Ariad come to life.
7:06 Speaker 03 The goal of this weekend was to have a relaxing trip, maybe take a couple day hikes. So the next day we set out to hike to this area of Alpine on the other side of the valley. And it was a beautiful sunny summer day, but after a couple hours of rocky walking, morale was low.
7:26 Speaker 03 This was the end of their whirlwind, "Let's go everywhere in Alaska" trip and they were kind of over it. And I'm pulling out all the stops, too. I'm doing interp on geomorphology, pointing out the patterns glacial output streams carve, telling lichen jokes.
7:48 Speaker 03 Fun stuff.
7:51 Speaker 03 None of it is landing.
7:54 Speaker 03 We get to the head of the valley and we see that the easiest way into the Alpine is over this glacier. And Elizabeth and I take people hiking on glaciers all summer long. We don't have our full kit, but it's good weather, good hikers, we're good to go. And when we get up on the ice, everything changes. Summer glaciers are alive. The ice is sparkling, there's these creeks carving these beautiful channels, there's these blue pools of water that are reflecting that glacier blue from the inside. It's stunning and our clients start enjoying themselves. They're engaging with the environment, they're taking selfies, doing yoga poses.
8:41 Speaker 03 This is what they're here for.
8:47 Speaker 03 And then we encounter a little bit of snow, and then a little bit more snow. And when you are on a winter glacier that's covered in snow, it's customary to rope yourself to each other in case somebody unexpectedly breaks through the snow and falls into a crevasse. In the summer, the snow is gone and you can see all the crevasses and just walk around them. This is a summer glacier, but there's some patches of winter left over. So Elizabeth goes ahead to scout our way off of the ice, which can be problematic. And I stay behind guiding our clients. And I've got them behind me in a single file line. And I'm making sure to stay as much as we can on the exposed ice. And if we have to step on snow at all, I use my ski pole to probe it first
9:33 Speaker 03 to make sure that it's snow over ice, not snow over air.
9:38 Speaker 03 And now I'm having a good time.
9:42 Speaker 03 I'm moving my clients through terrain. I'm picking lines that are mostly ice. If I gotta deal with a little bit of snow, I probe, I step, I probe, I step. I'm thinking, "I am a good guide."
10:00 Speaker 03 Then the next step I take is just in front of my probe pole. And the snow beneath me disintegrates instantly. And I begin to free-fall into the glacier. Immediately.
10:17 Speaker 03 And for long enough to think a few things. First, I'm gonna die.
10:28 Speaker 03 Followed by, "What an embarrassing way for a glacier guide to die."
10:36 Speaker 03 And then, "Hey, let's try and not die." And I put my arms and legs and ski pole out to try and slow me down. And I come to a stop on this rotten pile of snow. I'm 20 feet below the surface of the glacier. It is dark and cold. It's like a long, narrow hallway with tall ceilings and a single skylight.
11:05 Speaker 03 I have been inside glaciers before, but never involuntarily.
11:11 Speaker 03 Not to mention that being swallowed whole by the earth is an immensely humbling experience. And I just left the four New York Never campers,
11:24 Speaker 03 who had just spent their first night in a tent after being flown into the middle of nowhere and then watched the guy they brought to protect them from the wilderness vanish into thin air.
11:42 Speaker 03 I assessed my situation, and I was not injured besides my ego. I couldn't see or hear my clients. I didn't know where Elizabeth was. So I decided the best thing to do was to wait. My mind was racing. How was I ever gonna get out of here? How was I ever gonna live this down if I did? How big of a mistake did I just make?
12:10 Speaker 03 I knew that... I was already starting to get cold. And I knew that our emergency equipment and technical gear was over a two-hour hike from where we were. I knew that even if we initiated a helicopter rescue, it can take up to eight hours for them to show up. I knew that this was not the bottom of the crevasse. I guessed the ice in that area was anywhere from 600 to 800 feet deep. And what I was standing on was just rotten snow bridges that had collapsed from two or three years ago and gotten lodged in this constriction. I started to do some like preliminary investigation of the snow beneath me, but I didn't want
12:54 Speaker 03 to poke on anything too hard, feeling like I might trigger a second trap door. And that's how most people who perish in crevasse falls go, is they fall down to a point where they get squeezed by the walls of the ice and are slowly crushed. Glacier ice is so dense that it eats sound. So I sat there in the quiet with just my thoughts, constricting and releasing my muscles to try and stay warm without moving.
13:34 Speaker 03 Finally, Elizabeth looked down at me through the hole that I had punched in the snow. We made eye contact, and neither of us needed to say we should have brought a rope. We went into problem-solving mode, and I told her I thought that I could climb up a ways, but I didn't know how to get past the overhanging lip of snow at the top of the crack. It's hard to get past the snowy lip even if you're roped in and you fall into a crevasse. By punching through, you create this overhang that you have to somehow get over.
14:18 Speaker 03 And Elizabeth's eyes lit up, and she said, "If you can get up here, I can get you past that lip." And then she disappeared.
14:28 Speaker 03 By the time I started climbing, I had been in this crevasse for at least 20 minutes. And I'm cold and I'm stiff. And it was narrow enough that I could touch each wall. And I start pushing and pulling on the walls with my hand and using smaller cracks as handholds, improving tiny ledges with my ski pole. And I climb up five feet and 10 feet. And then I look down. And I do not like what I see. This snow I had landed on looks like cotton candy. And there's darkness through the holes.
15:06 Speaker 03 And any time that I knock an ice crystal through them, I cannot hear it hit the bottom. I climb up five more feet until I'm finally right below the snow. A place that I can't go any further by myself. And I establish this icy stance and the reality of this situation hits me really hard. I have just turned a relaxing weekend in the wilderness into a life or death situation. And I'm terrified. And just then, I hear the flap of fabric. And a flash of color.
15:48 Speaker 03 And the first of four brightly colored, brand-new Arc'teryx rain jackets. Tied sleeve to sleeve is lowered down in front of me. And I had never been so happy my clients had brand-new rain gear. And I grab a hold of what is at least a $3,000 robe. And Elizabeth and those New Yorkers pulled me past the lip and into the sunshine.
16:39 Speaker 03 And when I got there, I was embarrassed. But they tried to soothe me. They said things like, "We're just really impressed that you climbed out of there. And you know, everyone makes mistakes."
16:54 Speaker 03 They even swore themselves to secrecy to hide my shame.
17:00 Speaker 03 Which I hope they told some people, because that is one doozy of a first-time camping tale.
17:07 Speaker 03 I, myself, didn't tell anybody for years. I was so ashamed of this incident. But these days, I own that guide service, and I tell all the new guides this story under the heading, "The Glacier Does Not Care How Full Your Beard Is."
17:25 Speaker 03 Because the truth is, we all do make mistakes. And the real shame is not being able to admit them and share them with others, so that we can all learn. Thank you.
17:44 Speaker 02 That was Monty Montecarlo. Monty is a comedian and adventure guide, originally from Breckenridge, Colorado. He's been the keynote speaker at the Yearre Ice Fest, is on the cover of the Alaska Packcraft Guidebook, and is part-owner of the Kennebec Wilderness Guides in Wrangell-St. Elias National Park, Alaska. He now performs weekly at the Upright Citizens Brigade in Los Angeles, and lives in a little house on a hill with his partner Jill, their kid Rocky, and their little dog Sage. The night Monty told this story, it was also his birthday. And when he walked off the stage, the packed house serenaded him.
18:32 Speaker 02 The New Yorkers in the crowd, including myself, also loved that the New York Never Campers saved the day in the end. As I mentioned up top, Monty's story is part of our countdown of 2024's most shared Moth stories. If you'd like to watch that video compilation, follow The Moth's Instagram, at Moth Stories. We'll also have a link to follow us in this episode description. What are your favorite Moth stories from 2024? We'd love to hear about them. Just tag us on Instagram or TikTok, at Moth Stories. Or even better, tell your family and friends in person about the Moth stories that have made this year a little brighter. We hope to see you at a Moth event next year.
19:16 Speaker 02 That's it for this episode. From all of us here at The Moth, we hope that 2025 brings you even more stories you can't wait to share.
19:25 Speaker 04 Sarah Austin Jenness is a director, The Moth's executive producer, and a co-author of the bestselling How to Tell a Story: The Essential Guide to Memorable Storytelling from The Moth, which is available now wherever you get your books. This episode of The Moth Podcast was produced by Sarah Austin Jenness, Sarah Jane Johnson, and me, Mark Sollinger. The rest of The Moth's leadership team includes Sarah Haberman, Christina Norman, Jennifer Hickson, Meg Bowles, Kate Tellers, Marina Kluchay, Suzanne Rust, Leigh Anne Gully, and Patricia Orenya. The Moth would like to thank its supporters and listeners. Stories like these are made possible by community giving. If you're not already a member, please consider becoming one or making a one-time donation today at themoth.org/giveback.
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