Ep. 927: Brent's Manitoba Moose Hunt | 12 in '26

Join Brent Reaves and Josh Spielmaker in this Q&A interview to hear behind the scenes details from Brent's Manitoba Moose hunt that didn't make the film. Brent chronicles the trip from start to finish and shares some surprising insights gleaned from his experience. He also answers some viewer questions about the hunt. Watch the film now on MeatEater's YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/fkGsnuqLpbk?si=EQl74ULIrNCyK6h_ Presented by Can-Am: maker of the best ATVs, SxS, and Utility Vehicles www.can-am.brp.com http://www.can-am.brp.com Connect with MeatEater on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/meateater, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater/, Twitter https://twitter.com/MeatEaterTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor, YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAaa0mleeU128Ad5iM1RFIg, and YouTube Clips https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterClips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 1:38Speaker 03

  We've been traveling for two days. We're 154 kilometers from Thompson, Canada, where we're gonna stay the night. In the morning, I'm gonna catch a float plane out with Craig McCarthy with North Mountain Adventures, and we're going to see if we can get a moose hemmed up here in northern Manitoba. It's a very remote place. It is as wild as wild gets in North America. Hard to believe that this is really taking place. And I don't know if I'll fully realize it until we get in camp. But I'm a long ways from home.

• 2:23Speaker 03

  What you just saw was a clip from Hunting Bull Moose in Manitoba. My 12 and 26 film sponsored by Moultrie and Onyx. And what we're doing now is the companion podcast that's gonna answer some questions and maybe show some things that didn't wind up in the final cut. And I'm joined by my good friend Josh Landbridge-Spielmaker.

• 2:46Speaker 04

  Well, I'm excited to be here, Brent. I really loved the film. It was, it was, uh, did a great job capturing not just the hunt, but all the surrounding things to go with it, the scenery,

• 2:57Speaker 03

  Oh, man.

• 2:58Speaker 04

  the camaraderie, everything about it.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  It was just, it was information overload for a little while.

• 3:04Speaker 04

  I'll say, I'll say, but we're, uh, we're really excited to, uh, to do this podcast because we've got some great questions from some of the viewers. And, uh, we're gonna give you an opportunity just to, you know, it's hard to catch a, how long was the hunt total?

• 3:18Speaker 03

  Oh, man, we were there for like, I think the whole trip was like nine days.

• 3:21Speaker 04

  Okay, so it's hard to capture all that in 42 minutes.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 3:26Speaker 04

  And so, uh, we're gonna give you an opportunity just to tell us more than we could see in the film. But, um, it's a pretty different kind of adventure for you.

• 3:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:33Speaker 04

  Growing up here in Arkansas.

• 3:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:37Speaker 04

  Early on in your career, you spent a lot of time documenting other people's hunts.

• 3:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:41Speaker 04

  And you kind of go into that in the film, but, uh, this time you're the, the guy carrying the rifle. So, um, before we, uh,

• 3:50Speaker 04

  we're gonna, I've got a couple of questions for you before we, we kind of dive into it.

• 3:54Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 3:55Speaker 04

  How did this kind of come about? How did you get, uh, how did you like, hey, I want to go to Manitoba and hunt?

• 4:03Speaker 03

  Man, uh, it all started like in February a year ago.

• 4:07Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 4:07Speaker 03

  And Garrett Long, my boss, calls me and he says, we need to come up with an idea for a project, some, some, some film projects that we're gonna film throughout the year. And I need, what's your dream hunt? And I'm like, I don't know, I'll think about it. Oh, I got it. I mean, it was just, that, that was how, that's how it went. I said, I want to go shoot a moose in, in, uh, northern Manitoba with Craig McCarthy. And now the response I was waiting here was like, uh, how about we do something in Missouri? You know, a little closer to home. But Garrett's response was, okay, get ahold of Craig and let's start working out the details. And I'm like, say that again?

• 4:50Speaker 03

  And then, and then from that, it just went from initial meetings with Craig and, uh, producer, and we just started getting the ball rolling and making a plan, and it came to fruition.

• 5:03Speaker 04

  That's incredible.

• 5:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:06Speaker 04

  What was, what was kind of different about you, you know? I know you filmed quite a bit in Canada, you know, not necessarily in northern Manitoba, but you filmed a lot in Canada. How was it different preparing for this, knowing that you were gonna be the shooter?

• 5:21Speaker 03

  Well, to me, being a cinematographer, which I don't claim to be, I was a cameraman. And I think, I think there's a difference, you know? But prepping myself to go film a hunt like that, I just had to get the mindset that, that I'm always working.

• 5:39Speaker 04

  Right.

• 5:39Speaker 03

  That, you know, the hunt is not when you leave, walk out the camp door or the tent or whatever with a gun in your hand. When you're there to document the whole hunt, that's all of it. So you know, you've got to be on the ready. You got to, you're the first guy up in the morning. You're the last guy to go to bed at night. You're the last, you, most of your meals are gonna be cold because you're filming everybody else doing all that kind of stuff. So it is a totally different situation that, that you had to prepare for. You just got to get your mind right, that if it don't happen on camera, then it didn't happen.

• 6:13Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 6:14Speaker 03

  That's the way you gotta look at it. And I want to think, I can't remember exactly, Josh, but I think Dave Gardner shot like 26.

• 6:22Speaker 04

  Dave Gardner was your cameraman.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  He was my cameraman on this. It was me, Dave Gardner, and Craig McCarthy in this.

• 6:27Speaker 04

  Excuse me, videographer.

• 6:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, cinematographer.

• 6:30Speaker 04

  Cinematographer.

• 6:31Speaker 03

  Extraordinary. Yeah, for real. And, but I think it's like 26 hours of videos or film that he shot, you know? And they condensed that down to 42 minutes. I mean, that's, uh, it's incredible, incredible.

• 6:50Speaker 04

  Well, that's awesome. Well, uh, let's, uh, let's go ahead and dive into, into another clip here.

• 6:55Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 7:06Speaker 03

  Man, the amount of stuff it takes to do this is monumental, especially if we're trying to document a film like this. It's already gonna be a good trip regardless, so a lot of folks ready to go, me included.

• 7:22Speaker 03

  There, Arkansas?

• 7:25Speaker 03

  One big suet. Long time no see. Hey, brother. Good to see you. You too.

• 7:42Speaker 04

  Great. That's a great clip. One of the things that I noticed right away was how remote.

• 7:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 04

  This place was.

• 7:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:50Speaker 04

  Flying in and out, um, no roads, road systems. I mean, you fly in, live out of camp, um, and your boat becomes your primary way of getting around. And then the whole process that goes into loading these planes and getting everything off. And, um, what, what were the logistical, what was the logistics of putting together a hunt like this?

• 8:13Speaker 03

  I mean, you think about, there's always been in this business, and I learned it very early, that you're either hunting or you're filming a hunt. And that is to, two totally different things. If you're just hunting, you're just gonna, you capture what you capture. If you're trying to tell a story, then you've got to film everything. So there's gonna be equipment and batteries and camera batteries and stuff that are gonna take the place maybe of clothes, of other things that you wanted to bring. I want to bring, you know, X, Y, Z, but you don't have room for it. And you gotta make a choice between clean underwear and batteries.

• 8:55Speaker 04

  Batteries it is.

• 8:56Speaker 03

  Batteries are gonna win every time, and you're just taking, you're taking a bath in the creek, you know? And washing your clothes in the lake. And that's, that, that kind of stuff goes into it. And it goes into the whole thought process of, okay, maybe I can wear a pair of britches for three days.

• 9:11Speaker 04

  Right.

• 9:11Speaker 03

  You know, and, and I actually did a podcast about it, about when I came back, about the things that I would have done different. And I, I took way too many clothes. And I would take, I would cut that back and just, you know, wash in the, wash in the, in the lake, rinse off, dry, let it air dry, and then go that route. But you really prioritize the things that you need to document. Because if you run out of lens wipes, or if you run out of batteries, or if you run out of, you know, your B camera, you got more than one camera there. If you run out of things to document that, I mean, it's not, you don't, you don't call up FedEx and have them ship you another one in.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Run down to Best Buy.

• 9:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz, you know, from where we took off there in Thompson, we were in that float plane for another two hours before we.

• 9:58Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 9:58Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, it was out there, you know? Not in a straight line. We went to several other camps and dropped some stuff off. But it was, you don't just, if you don't bring it, if you don't have it with you, you don't have it.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  So, and usually, one is none and two is one. So you, you usually, you're doubling up.

• 10:15Speaker 04

  Right.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  So you can be sure that you have.

• 10:16Speaker 04

  On the necessities.

• 10:17Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm, to have, yeah.

• 10:18Speaker 04

  So one of the things that I know and love about you, Brent, is that you are, you really value relationships. Tell us how you met Craig.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  Oh, man, I went up on a bear hunt with Craig and, and his wife Mel, and their, their place.

• 10:32Speaker 04

  I remember that.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, North Mountain Adventures there, and I guess it's kind of in the bottom third of Manitoba there. And, um,

• 10:42Speaker 03

  Their family, Craig, Melanie, Hayden and Kirsten, they're, they're just, man, they are just an ideal outdoor family. They, they're, the hosting that they have there and the places they have to hunt is just beyond anything. And they're just good, down-to-earth people. So, we hit it off, you know, right from, from the get-go.

• 11:04Speaker 04

  Right.

• 11:05Speaker 03

  The only, our only difference is, you know, we talk different and they have an accent and I don't. But we just became good friends. And then when this, the opportunity came up to be able to go on a moose hunt, there was one guy that I wanted to do it with.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  And that, that's how it happened.

• 11:20Speaker 04

  Oh, that's really cool. That's really cool. So, when you're, when you're this remote, you said you were out there for nine days. What is a, what does a typical day look like when you're out there hunting?

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Well, hunting moose, man, you, you, you get up pretty early. I mean, it's not like a duck hunt where you're two hours before daylight. You get up right before daylight and kind of get a bite to eat. And you let the, you want to get some daylight where you can, you can see the shore, you know, when, when you leave the camp, you get out and you go. And we're going to different spots along the shore. And if weather's right and it's, and, and you can see, you know, you, you may be able, you may spot a moose before you ever set up to call one. Now, we didn't. We didn't see them the first two or three days we were there. So, we would just go to different spots along the lake and call. And we'd set in one spot. And I talked to, even in the film, I'm talking to Craig about

• 12:14Speaker 03

  it, you know, asking him how long he likes to stay in one spot after we do a call. And it's, I would think, you know, forty-five minutes, you know, or, but he's like, no, two hours. And it, it's, the way those, those bulls react to a call is just so slow and methodical. I mean, they can hear it a long ways, but they're usually not just, okay, I hear a cow running over there. No, he's just going to start easing his way that way. And he may be a, a mile away from it or, or more.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  And just start easing his way.

• 12:50Speaker 04

  And you were there what, what time, what time of year?

• 12:52Speaker 03

  That was in, uh, Sep-, late September.

• 12:55Speaker 04

  Okay. Is that, is that like peak for the rut?

• 12:57Speaker 03

  I think it's the, kind of toward the end of it.

• 12:59Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 12:59Speaker 03

  Cause everybody, we were the last hunt for that, for Craig's outfit up there, his father's outfit up there. So, and anytime I was talking to someone, they'd say, oh, you're going to, when you going to hunt this moose? And I'd say, oh, we're leaving, I think it was like the eighteenth or nineteenth of January, or, or September, or something like that. And they go, oh, you're going late. I'm like, golly, that seems early.

• 13:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  But you take into account the, the weather up there. And, and October is opposed to how it is down here, you know, there's quite a difference. So, it was a tail end of the rut, but bulls were really active. And, and as you can see, it paid off good.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  Yeah. So, um, you, you traveled with your rifle on several different airplanes. There's a scene in the, in the, in the film where you want to go just check your zero on it.

• 13:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:52Speaker 04

  Um, what, what, a lot of questions about what cal-, what rifle you were shooting, what caliber, and why was it important to you to check the zero?

• 14:02Speaker 03

  So, Sig Sauer Cross and three hundred PRC, which was the largest round I've ever shot, you know, in a, in a civilian rifle. And when I looked at it, and I thought, you know, that's probably a moose round, as big as it is. Uh, but I sighted it in with my friend who lives here, not far from my house here. And he actually works for Sig. He's an engineer for Sig here at the, at their Arkansas ammunition plant. And Matt Burns, who's a competitive shooter and just a, man, he's just so knowledgeable about it. So, but he's got a little range at his house. And we went there, I went there and, and sighted that thing in. And the whole time we were traveling, you know, from plane to

• 14:44Speaker 03

  plane, I'm looking out the window and I'm watching them load stuff. I'm like, that guy right there is not concerned whether my rifle stays on zero or not. But, uh, we got, that was the first thing that I wanted to do once I got there. And you can actually, in Canada, uh, in Manitoba, that is, you can hunt the same day you fly in.

• 15:04Speaker 04

  Oh, okay.

• 15:05Speaker 03

  As long as you don't use that aircraft to, you know, spot anything, which we, we didn't see anything. But you can, uh, it's legal to do that. So, soon as we got settled in camp, I mean, Dave pushed record and we started, we started hunting right then.

• 15:20Speaker 04

  Awesome, awesome. Where, uh, what distance did you have your rifle zeroed in at?

• 15:25Speaker 03

  I sighted it in, it was, I could shoot out to seven hundred yards on, on Matt's course. And we shot a hundred. If it's good at a hundred, Matt said it's good at seven hundred. And I shot both at his house. And that was what we did there.

• 15:40Speaker 04

  Based on the ballistic calculator?

• 15:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, based on all that. We did it there. Once we got into camp and it was good to go.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  Awesome. Well, that's cool. Um, let's, uh, let's go ahead and hit this next clip.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  We talked about this earlier, and I've heard you explain it to other folks who are talking about going and calling. And then, like at night and then leaving and coming back to that spot. Is that more or less like putting bait out?

• 16:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, pretty much. Unless he's right there, he's not, you're not going to get him right away. But he could be two miles. And if it's dead calm and he hears you, he'll, and moose aren't fast, you know, when they're coming, he'll start grunting and slowly make his way there. So, we leave in the morning. He's probably coming if he heard you.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  Right.

• 16:27Speaker 05

  And then when we go back in the afternoon or the next morning, um, he's probably like within a couple hundred yards of where you were calling from.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  What's your picture perfect weather for calling moose in the rut? What do you, what are you looking for?

• 16:43Speaker 05

  Below zero temperatures and dead calm.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  Si-, uh, Celsius?

• 16:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  So, thirty-two or under?

• 16:49Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 03

  And no wind?

• 16:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 17:08Speaker 04

  Now, I don't, I don't want to be presumptuous here.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:14Speaker 04

  I've spent quite a bit of time practicing a turkey call and a duck call.

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 04

  And don't claim to be good at either one.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 17:26Speaker 04

  I think I could get that one down.

• 17:28Speaker 03

  I've got, man, I've got videos of folks with their kids blowing through a toilet, toilet paper roll. Like, how's my moose calling? It sounds good. And Craig will be the first to tell you. It's all you got to do with a minimum amount of practice to call one up. And it was, the, the thing that got me so much is something that I just keep beating the hair off of, is it's like my calling turkeys right now, going back to camp, going to bed, and getting up the next morning, going back and sitting by that tree and shooting him when he walks up. I mean, that is just so out of the, out of the ordinary.

• 18:10Speaker 04

  That's what I kept thinking about. I mean, it's pretty amazing that you can put a call out.

• 18:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:15Speaker 04

  And twelve hours later, that misses.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, he's coming. Or twenty-four hours. It, it, it was, um, when we would leave and there's something in there, and I don't know if we, if we're talking, if we're going to get to something that, that didn't make it into the film that I wish would have, if this is a good time to cover it now. But one afternoon, and I can't remember now if it was the day after, I think it was a couple of days after, uh, that I actually killed a bull. We were going down that river, the same river. And we just pulled up on the bank and, and Craig made a call. And then we went on fishing down the river. And

• 19:01Speaker 03

  as we left, Dave's filming him and Craig says, there'll be a bull here when we come back. And we laughed, Dave laughed, I laughed, Craig laughed. We went fishing, we came back and there was a bull there three hours later.

• 19:13Speaker 04

  Really?

• 19:14Speaker 03

  Yeah. And we got some footage of him from the boat. And, but I wish that would have made it in, Craig saying that. But he, cause I mean, you like, oh, this guy's got ESP.

• 19:23Speaker 04

  Oh, that, that's awesome.

• 19:25Speaker 03

  It was pretty. It was pretty funny.

• 19:27Speaker 04

  Were there ever any, uh, you know, when you're throwing these cow calls out there, was there ever any, before you saw one respond to it like that, was there any doubt in your mind that you're like,

• 19:39Speaker 03

  Well, I mean, you, you trust the guide. I was a duck guide for so long that I knew not, if I've got a client with me, I'm not going to tell him something that's not true.

• 19:51Speaker 04

  Right.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  You've got to be honest.

• 19:52Speaker 04

  Absolutely.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  In the course of being in the wilderness, being outside, dealing with nature, the truth is gonna come out.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Right.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  So I, I had to do nothing but trust what he said. And, you know, I would be thinking, oh, we need to get up and move. In my mind, I'm thinking, we should get up and move.

• 20:10Speaker 04

  Right.

• 20:10Speaker 03

  The next thought would be, I should pay attention to Craig, cause he does this for a living.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  And

• 20:16Speaker 04

  He gets us wrong, he doesn't get paid.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  Right, exactly. So, I mean, it's, you never guide the guide, and that's something I always keep in the forefront of what I'm, what we're, what we're doing. And I'm trying to learn, man, I learned so much from, um, you know, being a turkey hunter or a whitetail hunter, you gotta be patient a lot of times, you know, and, but I learned, um, patience from, from him up there, especially when you're making a call that could

• 20:41Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 20:42Speaker 03

  have an effect 24 hours later.

• 20:44Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  That was, it was really cool to see.

• 20:47Speaker 04

  So Craig mentioned, you know, his ideal calling conditions were, you know, zero degrees Celsius, 32 degrees Fahrenheit, dead calm. Why those conditions? Obviously, the dead calm makes sense.

• 20:57Speaker 03

  I think it's the sound carries and it's, uh, they seem to be active during that time, you know, during, with that temperature, they're most active. And obviously with this, the sound will go not just downwind, but in every direction.

• 21:11Speaker 04

  Now, was that from your first day hunting?

• 21:14Speaker 03

  That was.

• 21:15Speaker 04

  Okay, so first day was just call and wait?

• 21:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, call and wait.

• 21:19Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 21:19Speaker 03

  Call and wait. We, we got there that afternoon, we went over and, uh, across the lake, we never hunted that side of the lake again because of the wind. Uh, we were facing into the wind there and we were right on the edge. We had the, the lake, uh, right at the, behind us, the edge. We were calling across that tundra or whatever technical term that is for that, that part of Canada there. And they had, um, you can see forever, but I mean, in that, also in that instance, I mean, you can see that the wide open country, but a, a, something big as a moose can just all of a sudden just slip up on you.

• 22:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:00Speaker 03

  You know, so it was

• 22:02Speaker 04

  Now, was this private land or public land?

• 22:04Speaker 03

  It's all public, it's all public land. And I'm not sure if it's native land or whatever, if they have a lease or, or whatever it is, but it's like a concession that, that they hunt up there.

• 22:15Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  So, I mean, they're the only folks allowed in that part.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  Like, give us an idea of how big of an area you were hunting.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  As big as the world is, as big as outside. I mean, there was thousands of acre miles of, of what unnamed lakes and unnamed rivers and just wilderness, absolute wilderness. And it, from the time you left Thompson in that airplane, that float plane flying at a little over 3,000 feet, once, once those, that civil, part of civilization got behind the aircraft, there was, I mean, there was nothing. And it looked like it went on for absolute ever.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  I, I've not spent much time in the Canadian wilderness like that, but that's what I, everybody says is just, it feels like you're

• 23:05Speaker 03

  It feels like you are a million miles from home and really you are.

• 23:11Speaker 04

  Like an uninhabited planet.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Absolutely. And you're smelling, you're breathing air that it's never, it's, nobody's breathed it. It hadn't got to Arkansas yet. By the time it gets to Arkansas, they've been, folks have been breathing it all over the country.

• 23:25Speaker 04

  You're breathing something that's been inside someone.

• 23:27Speaker 03

  All over North America. And it's just a, a feeling.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  It's just all encompassing, really. It's a little, it's, it's, if you like details, and I love the details in places that I go and I, the small things and it's, it's over, it's, it's overwhelming. It really is.

• 23:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Um, let's, uh, let's hit the next clip.

• 23:55Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 23:59Speaker 03

  Normal on a foggy morning, I just lay up until the fog clears or?

• 24:03Speaker 05

  No, I think it's just, uh, it depends where you are, if the bulls have cows with them or not.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 24:11Speaker 05

  That's how moose hunting is. It's just like, you could see nothing for days and then all of a sudden, there's moose all over the place. Yeah.

• 24:19Speaker 03

  Famine to feast?

• 24:20Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's just, uh, the way it goes.

• 24:35Speaker 03

  Oh Lord, he's seeing something.

• 24:38Speaker 05

  Wait, I think I see a bull. Look up in the green over there.

• 24:44Speaker 05

  See up in the green, up high?

• 24:48Speaker 05

  Definitely a moose, a hundred percent. We're going in there.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:53Speaker 05

  We got time.

• 25:08Speaker 05

  Oh, I see him. He's, he's to the left of the tree down the way. Hunt stops in seven minutes.

• 25:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, they just disappear.

• 25:27Speaker 04

  Now that, was that the second day or was that?

• 25:29Speaker 03

  That's the first day there.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  The very first day?

• 25:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, we were coming back, uh, from where we were set up across the lake and saw that, and he saw that moose. And it's hard to see it, man. I don't know that if you could even put a pause on it and zoom in on it on your phone or your computer, whatever you're watching on and see that moose, but he was there and you could see the paddles on him. And he had a, a cow up in there.

• 25:53Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 25:54Speaker 03

  And that spot right there, where eventually I shot the moose from, probably another

• 25:58Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 25:58Speaker 03

  40, 50 yards around that bend down there's where I found, where we were sitting when I shot that moose. But something that impressed me about that was there is nobody within miles and miles and miles of where we are. And Craig says, we got seven minutes. And buddy, in seven minutes, we were packed up and gone.

• 26:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:22Speaker 03

  At, at five minutes till, when we didn't have anything close enough, we were unloading and just standing there watching just to see what would happen. And there's nobody that would have known.

• 26:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:33Speaker 03

  But me and Craig and Dave.

• 26:34Speaker 04

  Right.

• 26:35Speaker 03

  But it's by the book, man. I love it.

• 26:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's awesome.

• 26:38Speaker 03

  It's, they're just

• 26:39Speaker 04

  You gotta appreciate guys like that.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 26:40Speaker 04

  I mean, the integrity is what, what stands out.

• 26:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent.

• 26:44Speaker 04

  Um, I can imagine cruising up and down the lake there, you're, you're probably, every brown spot is a, is a moose.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, I saw this, there's one stump I tried to kill for six days up there that I kept seeing through those binos. And I, that's gotta be a moose. No, it's still a stump.

• 27:02Speaker 04

  What's a legal bull? Is there a, is there a size requirement?

• 27:05Speaker 03

  I think it's gotta have like four on the front, I believe.

• 27:08Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  And then, um, I'm, I'm not exactly sure. I mean, we talked about it, discussed it then. I don't remember now what it was, but it was, um, it's just incredible to, to be in those places and to be able to see that much.

• 27:23Speaker 04

  Right.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  And know that, you know, behind

• 27:25Speaker 04

  How difficult was it to see one?

• 27:28Speaker 03

  Well, it turns out it, it got pretty easy. The longer we stayed there, the more we saw.

• 27:32Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 27:33Speaker 03

  And, but you just didn't see them, like Craig's described, he said, man, we're allowed to come around a corner and they'll just be, you know, walking up and down the bank.

• 27:44Speaker 04

  Right.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  Way down there, uh, you know, across the lake, you'll see them over there. No, when we started seeing them, we just rolled up on them and there they were.

• 27:52Speaker 04

  Really?

• 27:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, just as unconcerned with

• 27:55Speaker 04

  Over the course of the hunt, how many moose did you think, do you think you saw?

• 27:59Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 28:02Speaker 03

  I think we saw five different moose, including the one, no, uh, been four bulls and then one that had the cow with it.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  Okay, okay.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  Now that's including one of the bulls that I killed.

• 28:14Speaker 04

  Wow, that I, I would have thought you would have seen more, but that's a pretty amazing to see those.

• 28:20Speaker 03

  Well, you saw what you see is where they were and fresh tracks and evidence of them and

• 28:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:26Speaker 03

  And you really got to play the wind up there, man, because I mean, one of the only creatures on the planet's got a nose bigger than mine and it's they can

• 28:34Speaker 04

  Mine, I'm the other creature.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Me and you, and you got, if you don't play the wind right, they're gone.

• 28:40Speaker 04

  That, that's what I was wondering too, because i- i- was that something you had to manage?

• 28:44Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. I mean, you, you looked the wind direction. We walked outside and we got in the boat, determined one hundred percent where we were going that day. And it also, the main thing it determines where we weren't gonna go.

• 28:57Speaker 04

  Right.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  We're not gonna go in there and this dust, this area was sent when we know that there's moose in this and we'll, we'll wait until.

• 29:04Speaker 04

  Was it pretty windy when you were there?

• 29:06Speaker 03

  Uh, at times it was, more than not.

• 29:08Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  More than not. And there was a couple of storms that blew through and it was raining. I can remember,

• 29:17Speaker 03

  I can remember sitting in the, in the cabin and we had a Starlink system up there. So I, we could, I called home and I was talking to my wife on the, and it was just raining, man, it's raining so hard, water's coming in on the floor and we're picking stuff up and setting it on tables. I told her, I said, it's coming a storm, there's water in here, my stuff's getting wet and I can't think of any place I'd rather be right now than right here. It was just that much

• 29:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:45Speaker 03

  fun.

• 29:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  You know, so, yeah, but there, yeah, it was windy. It was windy and it just played a lot, but you really had to be smart about, and just take your time, you know, it's not a, it's a marathon, not a sprint.

• 29:58Speaker 04

  Right.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  And every day that, every day that you're there, you're learning more about the environment, more about what the, the moose are doing by the tracks we're seeing and just, you know, play in the hands that were dealt.

• 30:11Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. Interesting. Um,

• 30:16Speaker 04

  as you, as time went on, you kind of picked, you, you, there was a scene in there where you talked about, is that a, you were asking him, is that a moose? And he's looking, he's like, I don't think so. And he said, it looks like two eagles. What, what was it?

• 30:30Speaker 03

  It was two eagles.

• 30:31Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 30:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, eagles up there are buzzing around like hummingbirds here. They're just everywhere. And it was way across the lake and they were sitting close, far enough apart from each other or separated enough that you thought it resembled paddles.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  Right.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  Cause that's what you're looking for. And Craig said, you gotta look for those paddles. You see the paddles and then you'll see the moose. So that was to my untrained eye, that's what I was looking for. And then we looked and saw, oh, that's a, th- those are eagles there.

• 31:01Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 31:01Speaker 03

  And right after that is when we, I think first, yeah, we first got in there and saw where those moose were, eventually where I would wind up killing one.

• 31:11Speaker 04

  Okay, alright.

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• 32:46Speaker 04

  Alright, let's, uh, let's move on to the, to the next clip. We've got a, a two-minuter here. And I think it's a good one.

• 32:55Speaker 03

  Oh, everybody found a comfortable place on the log and sat down. We were like a bunch of crows sitting on the light line. And I had my ballistics calculator out on my phone and I was ranging different places and just really passing the time. Cause I didn't figure we were gonna see anything until late. And all of a sudden Craig said, oh my gosh, there's a bull.

• 33:25Speaker 03

  How far?

• 33:26Speaker 05

  That's a shooter, Brent.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  How far is he?

• 33:32Speaker 05

  460. Wind's right on pretty well.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  Two point three.

• 33:47Speaker 03

  You ready?

• 33:47Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:00Speaker 05

  Hit him. Shoot him again. Oh, he's hurt.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  Where's he at?

• 34:06Speaker 05

  He's, he's butt facing him, but.

• 34:13Speaker 03

  He turns one way or the other. I got him. I can poke, quartering, but he's hard quartering.

• 34:20Speaker 05

  Pretty sure you hit him.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  There's no doubt.

• 34:27Speaker 05

  Hit him again.

• 34:31Speaker 05

  He's going down.

• 34:35Speaker 05

  There you go.

• 34:41Speaker 05

  He's going down.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  Can't see him.

• 34:45Speaker 05

  Holy man.

• 34:47Speaker 03

  Weapons on safe.

• 34:48Speaker 05

  Oh, buddy, I think you put three of them. That's a good bull.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  I love it, man.

• 34:58Speaker 03

  I get the chills every time I watch that.

• 35:03Speaker 03

  Craig was so excited and I was so excited. It was, uh, uh, it was overwhelming, a hundred percent overwhelming. And that, that whole sequence there, when we got there, uh, it was early. It's like 2:30, 3 o'clock in the afternoon. And that, that's the same point you recognize from where we were the day before. And when we got there, I said, uh, you know, the wind's blowing, uh, and it's, it was kind of warm. He said, they're probably not gonna start moving until later unless they're following a cow. He said, but

• 35:45Speaker 03

  it may be warm enough that they want to come get a drink of water to cool off. So we just set our stuff up, got comfortable. Dave sat down with his camera, Craig sat right beside him, and I sat down on the other end of this log and I've got that ballistics calculator out and I'm thinking, okay, if Craig calls out 500, you know, I'm poking it in there and find, and, and, cause I, I messed with that scope enough. Matt and gave me a crash course on it and we shot round after round after round and he's calling out different distances and I'm doping it in there. So I was very familiar with, with the process and was very comfortable with it.

• 36:27Speaker 03

  And so I'm just sitting there for nothing better to do than pass the time because Craig says, you know, you might see one, but it's probably gonna be late, you know, when it kind of cools off.

• 36:37Speaker 04

  Right.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  And then all of a sudden he jumps up and runs by me and says, there's a bull right there. And he's a shooter. By the time, he's running back over here to get his binos and stuff. Dave gets his camera and stands up. I don't know what to do, so I just kind of run around in circles there for a second till Craig got back. And we got on the gun and, and the rest of it was, you mean, you saw it happen. And when, uh, there was, he called out the distance to me twice.

• 37:08Speaker 04

  Uh-huh.

• 37:09Speaker 03

  And, cause the first time he says 460.

• 37:13Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:13Speaker 03

  Well, I dialed it in and I said, how far? Cause I, I, I get off the scope and I look and I can see him.

• 37:19Speaker 04

  Right.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  And I'm like, there's, there's no way that thing's 460.

• 37:22Speaker 04

  It's way closer than that.

• 37:23Speaker 03

  He's, cause he's huge, you know, I can see him. And he said 460 twice is what he said. 460 twice. I'll never forget it. Okay, I trust him, you know, and I, I got back on the scope and when I turned it loose, it, it, when I shot, I thought I'll be able to hear it hit him. I shouldn't be able to. And it seemed like it took forever. But wham, you can hear it.

• 37:45Speaker 04

  You could hear it.

• 37:45Speaker 03

  You, and on the video, you could actually.

• 37:47Speaker 04

  I felt like I could hear it on the video.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  You could, a hundred percent you can. And then if you look, you can see it actually go through him.

• 37:54Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  And hit the splash of water on the other side.

• 37:56Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 37:57Speaker 03

  So he, he took the first round right in the boiler room, behind his shoulder, on the right side. And the other two, uh, I wish we would have got a photograph of it. But the other two, you could have covered up with your fist.

• 38:10Speaker 04

  Really?

• 38:11Speaker 03

  I mean, right in the zero.

• 38:12Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  And

• 38:14Speaker 04

  That's incredible.

• 38:14Speaker 03

  It was just like he didn't flinch. I mean, he just

• 38:18Speaker 04

  Amazing.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  Walked right up on the bank and laid down and died.

• 38:22Speaker 04

  Man, it, it, it was incredible. It was incredible to see that, just that huge animal.

• 38:31Speaker 04

  I was amazed that how little he moved after that first shot.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  I mean, just like, he didn't know what hit him, but he wasn't too concerned about it at the moment.

• 38:41Speaker 03

  He just soaked it up, man.

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:43Speaker 03

  And he got two more and he didn't limp. He didn't do anything. I mean, when it hit him, he moved. But as far as like shaking or anything like that, he just, he toted all three of them up, just plumb out of sight.

• 38:56Speaker 04

  Now, you, you spent many, many years in law enforcement.

• 39:01Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  Um, working with SWAT.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 39:03Speaker 04

  What are, what's your background with firearms?

• 39:07Speaker 03

  Oh, well, I was also a firearms instructor.

• 39:09Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 39:09Speaker 03

  I taught at the state SWAT school down at Camden when they would have special classes down there for SWAT personnel.

• 39:16Speaker 04

  So you're very familiar with long range shooting, how to handle firearms. I, somebody, uh, we had a guy that commented, hey, I appreciate hearing Brent, you know, full of excitement. But the first thing he says is weapon on safe.

• 39:31Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:32Speaker 04

  Just letting everybody know.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 04

  That's a, that's a weapons instructor right there.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that's just a force of habit, which is a good habit to be in.

• 39:38Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Um, what were those feelings that when, when Craig said, there's a bull?

• 39:45Speaker 03

  Man, it was just, I mean, I, the whole time, that whole hunt, I was thinking about how, you know, it's a grand adventure for sure. But it's also my work. There's a lot of responsibility, uh, to, that encompasses

• 40:02Speaker 03

  my portion of it, you know? That, that's always why I talked about being the camera guy, you know? Win or lose.

• 40:09Speaker 04

  Right.

• 40:09Speaker 03

  If the camera, if the camera's recording, I've, I've got all the shots, whether or not the hunter misses or not.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  Right.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  Now I'm in front of it. Now it's all on me.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  Right.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  I know Dave's getting his part. Can I hold up my end of the bargain? And that's where the pressure comes from. And, I mean, but it is part of the story. Had I missed him, had I made a terrible shot, it had just been part of the story. Luckily, I didn't. I put three good ones in him and it was,

• 40:37Speaker 03

  it was absolute euphoria, really.

• 40:40Speaker 04

  What, when, did you see it immediately when you came around the bushes? Were you like, oh, there it is? When, when Craig said, there's a bull over there? And I'm sure you were full of adrenaline.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Walked around those bushes, did you immediately connect with him?

• 40:54Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. I mean, we, you could see down the river from where we were sitting. I didn't have to walk out.

• 40:59Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  From where we were sitting, when he, when, when Craig ran past me, fast enough to set the grass on fire. You know, I didn't know if it was something after him or, or what. Should I keep up with him or outrun Dave?

• 41:10Speaker 04

  Right, right.

• 41:11Speaker 03

  What's going on? And he said, there's a bull and, you know, a good bull right there. And I looked down there and immediately it was like, it was like a painting. I mean, he's, he's knee deep out in this river and just slowly walking out there and the sun shining on him and there's the water. The, the ripples are lit up, uh, from the sun and it, this thing is, it looks like a movie. I, I, I'm getting chills now, Josh, just thinking about it. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I mean, the sky was blue. It was, it was absolutely unreal. It looked like a, it looked like a film.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Wow, wow. And when he said four sixty, you immediately went into?

• 41:54Speaker 03

  I gotta trust him.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  My first thing was, there's no way. But he said it's four sixty and I made him, or I asked, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, how far? I'm wanting him to, you know, to make sure that's what it is. Confirm, you know, and he, he confirmed it four sixty twice. And I'm like, well, that's how far he is.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  And I, I love that you kind of had more or less immediate feedback of whether that animal was down or not. I mean, it was clear he was going down.

• 42:22Speaker 03

  Well, it, I didn't see it that way.

• 42:25Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 42:26Speaker 03

  Craig says, you got him. He's going down. And I'm like, bro, that thing was walking last time I saw it. Of course, Craig's looking at a lot of, he's looking at.

• 42:33Speaker 04

  Right.

• 42:34Speaker 03

  He's seen moose move that are shot good. He's seen moose that are walking that are shot not good.

• 42:41Speaker 04

  Right.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  But I mean, his confidence was overwhelming, but it wasn't for Brent.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 42:47Speaker 03

  You know, when he walked out of sight, far as I was concerned, that moose is still walking. Cause you shoot a deer and you think, well, he's in trouble, you know, you can kind of tell. But I didn't, I didn't know what to look for. And to me, it didn't like he was moving any faster or any slower than when he walked out before I ever shot him the first time.

• 43:05Speaker 04

  Okay. So, uh, did you wait or did you guys go immediately after?

• 43:11Speaker 03

  Fourteen days, we waited right there in that spot. This is what it felt like. I think it was 25 minutes.

• 43:18Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 43:19Speaker 03

  Cause I was checking my watch.

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Right.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  And we got in the boat and went down there. And I, when he walked out of the river and walked up on the bank out of the river, he walked right past a rock that was sticking up. It was about the size of a basketball, but it was right on the edge of the bank, the flat bank where, and I think it was maybe two feet from the, from the edge of the bank down to the water and just a cut bank straight. And there's that rock was right there. So in my mind, when I saw him, I logged that in there and I think that, that's where.

• 43:50Speaker 04

  Right.

• 43:50Speaker 03

  That's the trail. I'll look and start looking for blood right there.

• 43:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:54Speaker 03

  And we just started to float down there.

• 43:57Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  And.

• 43:59Speaker 04

  Uh, well, we've got it, we've got a next, next clip coming up. I, so you sat there for 25 minutes. I can't imagine.

• 44:05Speaker 03

  It's the longest 25 minutes of my life.

• 44:07Speaker 04

  I can't imagine. Yeah.

• 44:09Speaker 03

  It was, it was absolutely brutal.

• 44:11Speaker 04

  Well, let's, uh, let's watch this next clip here.

• 44:21Speaker 05

  He's laying right there, right through here, Brent.

• 44:26Speaker 05

  See the horn?

• 44:38Speaker 05

  Fifteen feet.

• 44:39Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh, he's right there.

• 44:44Speaker 03

  What an absolute monster.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  I don't know what to say. It is incredible. Absolutely incredible.

• 44:59Speaker 05

  Beautiful fronts on him.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  There ain't nothing bad about it. Oh my gosh.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  I don't know what to say. I'm just, thank you for the effort. Thank you for, thank you for your friendship, man.

• 45:17Speaker 05

  Thank you guys.

• 45:19Speaker 03

  This is already a success.

• 45:22Speaker 03

  Absolutely can't believe it.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  I just can't get over how big they are, man. I mean, I've seen pictures of Steve, once Steve's killed, Clay and all, you see, I've seen a jillion.

• 45:41Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:42Speaker 03

  Pictures. I've seen, you know, the ones that y'all have taken, but the body on these things is just.

• 45:51Speaker 03

  The day that, that I killed a moose, I, I was absolutely not prepared for what that was like. That adrenaline dump was unlike anything I have ever seen because I glanced down the river before I went back to get my rifle and I could see him standing in the river. And it, it looked like a dinosaur. It was the, it looked like a school bus with antlers. It was huge.

• 46:20Speaker 04

  Awesome. Uh, I, I'm no, I'm no expert on moose, but it looks like a big one.

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Man, I was looking, the way he was moving when he stepped up out of the river onto the bank.

• 46:36Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 46:37Speaker 03

  And I'd just seen his hind end going in, into the bushes, you know, that was the end of it. I'm expecting this thing not to be where he was. Because he was literally 15 feet from the edge of the water.

• 46:50Speaker 04

  Really?

• 46:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, we.

• 46:52Speaker 04

  So he literally walked off and just.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  He walked up and just, and laid down and was dead as a hammer when we got there. But I was looking past him. I was looking over him and Dave is sitting, if you can, obviously seeing the boat, Dave's cameraman. He's sitting in front of the boat and he's facing back and shooting back towards me and, and Craig.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 47:12Speaker 03

  And I'm, I'm looking hard and Craig says, there he is. Well, I, I look over at Dave's face and he starts smiling. He looks back at the, he's, he's back on the camera. So Dave sees him. I know, I can, I know Dave. I can tell. He's like, man, we, we got him.

• 47:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  And Craig's like, there he is. And I'm like, no, he ain't. I can't see him. I cannot end this hunt until I can see this moose.

• 47:36Speaker 04

  Right.

• 47:36Speaker 03

  And I'm looking further and when he said 15 feet, I thought 15 feet. And I looked down and there he was in the wide open. How, why could not see that moose? I don't know.

• 47:50Speaker 04

  Must've felt a tremendous sense of relief.

• 47:52Speaker 03

  Oh gosh.

• 47:53Speaker 04

  I mean, you can see it on your face. I mean, you kind of, you kind of gasp a little bit there.

• 47:57Speaker 03

  Oh, I did. A hundred percent I did. And you know, it's, that's one thing that I love about how we film these things. It's, there's, there's no way I could have recreated that.

• 48:06Speaker 04

  Right.

• 48:07Speaker 03

  You know, uh, if, if Dave hadn't have got it, it wouldn't have gotten got.

• 48:11Speaker 04

  Right.

• 48:11Speaker 03

  But he did.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  And it, it really shows the raw emotion and just overwhelming relief that what we came there to do, we did.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  So walking up on this animal, expectations versus reality.

• 48:28Speaker 03

  I was not prepared. I have killed deer before. I've been after bears. And when you get to them, you're like, ah, man, he's good. He's nice. Thought he was bigger. I thought he'd be a little bigger. You know, you know, and not, no disappointment or anything like that. That thing got bigger the longer I sat there and looked at it. It was not, I had no comprehension of it. I've seen moose one other time, uh, and I was in Alaska. And it's, it saw him across a bay. So he might as well have been a horse in a pasture.

• 49:05Speaker 04

  Right.

• 49:05Speaker 03

  You know, so I had the, I was not prepared for how big they were.

• 49:10Speaker 04

  Any idea like how much that thing weighed?

• 49:12Speaker 03

  Craig estimated him to be twelve to fourteen hundred pounds.

• 49:16Speaker 04

  Holy smokes.

• 49:18Speaker 03

  I know that when we, when we skinned him, processed him, I brought all the meat back. We stopped in a Craig's cousin, actually got a place in, uh, outside of Winnipeg. And we dropped the meat off there, but I brought the back straps home.

• 49:33Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  And the back straps, I had two soft coolers. One of them weighed fifty-one pounds and the other one weighed.

• 49:41Speaker 04

  My.

• 49:42Speaker 03

  Other one weighed forty-nine. So I brought home with me a hundred pounds.

• 49:47Speaker 04

  Of backstrap?

• 49:48Speaker 03

  Of backstrap.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  Holy cow.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was over six hundred pounds of processed moose than me and my neighborhood and family and friends are still eating on.

• 49:59Speaker 04

  Not your friend Josh, though.

• 50:01Speaker 03

  You will before you leave here.

• 50:05Speaker 04

  So what, what, you know, you could tell by the look on your face when you finally see it, just this massive sense of relief, excitement, elation, satisfaction, all wrapped up into one. When you walked up on it, what were the top three things that you thought when you walked up?

• 50:28Speaker 03

  I was just grateful.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 50:30Speaker 03

  And that is that the top three things that I felt was, was grateful, every, all three of them.

• 50:37Speaker 04

  Grateful, grateful, grateful.

• 50:38Speaker 03

  I mean, it was, uh, from the opportunity that I have backed my way into for this career that I never would have dreamed of having, to the people that made all that happen, you know, and it, it has been. I pulled the trigger, but I had the easiest part.

• 50:56Speaker 04

  Right.

• 50:56Speaker 03

  You know, um, from everybody that, that saw that film to the people that work in the retail stores of me that under this umbrella that we all work for, everybody plays a part in that.

• 51:08Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  And I'm grateful for every one of them. And it, it truly is a, um, a blessing to be the tip of the spear. To tell these stories and, but it all, it's all possible because of everybody behind the camera that do everything.

• 51:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  And it was an absolute physical and literal thought of while I was there.

• 51:32Speaker 04

  You, you, you kind of immediately express your gratitude to Craig and, and, uh, the other guys. Why is that important to you?

• 51:42Speaker 03

  Oh, it's just important to, uh, this is never, I love being the center of attention and talking to a room entertaining a room full of people, but my least favorite subject is me.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  Right.

• 51:56Speaker 03

  I'm just, uh, I'm blessed to be where I am and have this platform. But I think it's, it's not to tell Brent's story, it's to tell everybody's story.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  Right.

• 52:06Speaker 03

  You know, and everybody has a part, everybody's got a story and everybody's story needs to be heard. And I enjoy telling my part of it, but my part of this story is just a part of it.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  Right.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  There's a lot of parts and, you know, everybody plays a part in it.

• 52:22Speaker 04

  That's one of the things I really, I really appreciate about you, Brent, is just your, your sense of, of gratitude, appreciation. Um, you're a humble guy and, and based on all the, the comments that I've read on social media and YouTube, it's pretty obvious to everybody else. So I appreciate you being a, being a model of that. So, yeah. What's it like processing an animal that big?

• 52:50Speaker 03

  Took us two and a half hours to get him skinned and quartered up, uh, which is, you know, fairly quick for something that

• 52:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:57Speaker 03

  big. And the pack out, like I said, man, was, it was pick up a load of meat, take four steps and load it in the boat.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Right.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  I mean, it was just so easy. Uh, it was

• 53:13Speaker 03

  skinning a bear, skinning a deer, you know, times ten and, uh, easy as far as how we handled the meat, how it is to, to skin one, you know, laying down. It's a lot easier skinning moose laying on the ground than it is a deer to me.

• 53:31Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 53:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think so, just because it's, it's so much bigger, you got a bigger handhold.

• 53:36Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:36Speaker 03

  And between, you know, Dave did some film and then he set the camera up and he jumped in there with us. So it took three of us, two and a half hours of solid skinning and cutting to get it.

• 53:44Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 53:45Speaker 03

  Get it out and get it in the boat.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 53:48Speaker 03

  And I'm not sure, I don't know what the next clip is, but, um, the highlight of that whole thing or, or I wouldn't say the whole thing, but one of the top highlights of it was when we got that moose back in the boat and we were headed back towards cabin as probably a mile and a half, I think.

• 54:12Speaker 04

  What time of day did you shoot it?

• 54:14Speaker 03

  Oh, it was probably three o'clock in the afternoon.

• 54:18Speaker 04

  Okay. So you guys are going.

• 54:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's.

• 54:20Speaker 04

  Late into the evening.

• 54:21Speaker 03

  It's late into the evening time we get there. So the time we get loaded and everything done, skint, all the rib meat, neck meat, everything cut off and, and loaded into the boat and, and left there. We had our headlights on in the boat and we start heading, we've got twenty minutes, you know, of motoring to get back to the cabin. I turned my, Dave, of course he didn't, he's filming. I turned my light out, Craig turns his light out and then it's too dark to film, but the, our way is lit up by the, the northern lights. And I was sitting in the back and Dave was sitting behind, was sitting right there beside me.

• 55:01Speaker 03

  In the northern, you can see that moose, the moose antlers on, on the bow of that boat up there. And then the northern lights up above it. And that's how we, what lit our way back from where we skinned that moose to our cabin. And it was unreal. It was so, the emotion was, I mean, it, yeah, it brought tears to my eyes. How beautiful it was to be in that place, in a place like that with two of my good friends and do something like that and share that with them. It was.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Right.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Man, overwhelming is a theme from the time I got there to the time we left. And anytime I think about it, and I'm not sure there has been a day go by that I hadn't thought about one portion of that trip or the other.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  I mean, that, not to put it cheaply, but that sounds epic.

• 55:52Speaker 03

  It is. It, it was. It was, you know, outside of something with my children or grandchildren, it was the event of a lifetime for me.

• 56:00Speaker 04

  That's incredible. Um, is that the longest shot on game that you've ever taken?

• 56:08Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. Mm-hmm. You know, growing up down here in South Arkansas, um, you have a scope on a rifle, but any place I, we were hunting, I hunt in the woods, you know, and now, um, I'd never had a shot more than a hundred fifty yards, you know, and, and I like to bow hunt, so I hardly, hardly ever hunt with a rifle anyway.

• 56:30Speaker 04

  Right.

• 56:30Speaker 03

  And so that was by far, and that's what was so important to me to, to be prepared when I got there is, is shooting with Matt and getting comfortable and dialed in with that scope and, and changing distances that, you know, with a, a quick call out and swapping to different targets and, and putting the dope in the, in the.

• 56:52Speaker 04

  Right.

• 56:52Speaker 03

  In the scope and.

• 56:54Speaker 04

  You mentioned dope a couple of times. Tell our, our listeners and viewers what that means.

• 56:58Speaker 03

  Well, it's just the, you know, those scopes, they've got dials on them and turrets on them and they're numbered. And for wind and elev, for wind and then elevation, you know, left and right and up and down, uh, depending on what those factors are, you can put that into a, what's called a dope calculator on your phone, an app you just put on your phone.

• 57:19Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 57:19Speaker 03

  And then if it's coincides with the turrets on the scope and it tells you where to dial them in so that you're shooting for distance and, and wind correction.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  Dope is a, dope is an acronym for data on previous engagement. And so you're using.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 57:34Speaker 04

  Ballistics.

• 57:35Speaker 03

  And from a known target.

• 57:36Speaker 04

  From a known target and, uh, you know, based on your round and your rifle.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  The, the velocity of that bullet, you can calculate, if it's zeroed at a hundred, you can calculate how far you need to click for elevation.

• 57:51Speaker 03

  Yes. Way, way smarter than me and it works really well. And though, like I said, you know, I made three good shots on that, but I had real good equipment and real good information working in there.

• 58:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:04Speaker 03

  Really all I did was control my, try to control my breathing, as you can hear in that clip. I tried, tried to settle down and.

• 58:12Speaker 04

  You did a good job because I was like, well, Brent's huffing coming around that corner. And then I heard you just kind of calm down and.

• 58:18Speaker 03

  I just had to because he was dancing around in there like he was at a disco until I got it.

• 58:23Speaker 04

  What power scope is on there? Do you, do you remember?

• 58:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, that is a, uh, is a three by eighteen by fifty, I believe.

• 58:31Speaker 04

  Okay, okay.

• 58:32Speaker 03

  Yeah. So it's pretty, pretty stout.

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• 1:00:04Speaker 04

  Okay, we got another clip here.

• 1:00:08Speaker 03

  Here it is.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  Oh, sweet.

• 1:00:12Speaker 03

  This is yours, Tim. I wish you'd been here with me. My older brother, Tim, took me hunting when he didn't have to, when I was more in the way than anything else. The only thing that would have made that moment better was to have watched him do what I just done. It's a long way from the hayfield in Bradley County where I grew up to right here.

• 1:00:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:37Speaker 03

  It's a good place to be, man.

• 1:00:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:39Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  Anytime.

• 1:00:45Speaker 04

  I put that in there just so you could get choked up.

• 1:00:47Speaker 03

  Trying to get me. Ah.

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  Man.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  Your brother Tim's been a real fixture in your life.

• 1:00:56Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:57Speaker 04

  As long as you can remember from

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  From the stories you told.

• 1:01:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:01:01Speaker 04

  And that, that, that really comes through in the film and the, the time he invested in you mentoring you and hunting and as a brother and a friend and a, and a hunting companion and, and that, that was pretty meaningful to you. What, what, uh, what did Tim teach you that kind of came through in this hunt?

• 1:01:24Speaker 03

  Man, he has taught me so much stuff that comes in my everyday life. He's probably the most forgiven person I know. And he is, um, he can look at a situation where I'm ready to grab a hammer and start tearing stuff up and he's like, just sit back a minute. Let's, let's reevaluate what, what we really need to do. There is no one on that I know or have ever heard of that has more integrity than, than my brother. He's always doing the right thing, whether it's the easy, easiest thing to win it, when it's not the easiest thing to do.

• 1:02:02Speaker 03

  And he is, um, he is an example of what a brother and a friend and a father is. And he is, uh, he's a good man and I, I talked to him every day and I haven't talked to him today and it's absolutely driving me nuts because since you got here is a normal time that we call back and forth and talk. So I'm ready for you to get out of here, Josh.

• 1:02:28Speaker 04

  We can see if we could pipe him in.

• 1:02:31Speaker 03

  But he is, uh, he is my buddy, you know, and we're tight.

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  What, what would, how would that moment have been different if Tim had been there?

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  It would, that's the only thing that would have made it better. I mean, that was literally, I would have loved to have seen him do that. He is, he's the guy, he's eight years older than me. And when I was just little, he was taking me everywhere. And he decided when he was 16 and I was eight or 14 and I was four or, or six, you know, he's like, I want to grow up and be a trapper in Alaska. Me too. I wanted to do whatever he did, you know, and I wanted to put a track. If I wasn't putting a track in my dad's tracks, I was putting one in Tim's, you know? And everything that we just seemed to be so close and it would have been the culmination

• 1:03:27Speaker 03

  of all the things that I have been so blessed to do, to be able to share that with him and watch him do that. That's the only thing that it made it better.

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:03:41Speaker 04

  You know, I think there's been opportunities, you know, I've, I've talked about on Bear Grease, just about I didn't grow up hunting and Clay Newcomb is the one who kind of taught me how to hunt and became a friend and a hunting mentor.

• 1:03:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  How valuable is that to, to take younger people or people who haven't had that experience?

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  It is, it's the only way we keep this going. That's how valuable it is.

• 1:04:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:08Speaker 03

  You know, if it stops with one generation, it's done forever. You can go, it's easy to go back and count the generations that, that got us to this point, but the responsibility is on us now to keep it going and to show it to the next folks. And there's, I have always said, you share a tragedy with someone, you can cut that

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  sadness by 50%. You share a joy with someone and it multiplies it, there's no end to the number that you can, that'll multiply. And that's, that's what we got to do.

• 1:04:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:49Speaker 03

  And that, that's how valuable it is and how important it is. And we want to keep doing these kinds of things and having these moments and sharing them. We, we got to share them.

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  And, and share, sharing them with the folks that are not already exposed to it, get somebody else in a position to do the same thing. And it's, it's, it's vital. And I, and as a kid, I probably never thought about that.

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 1:05:10Speaker 03

  As a young man, I didn't think about it as, as much, but now it's at the forefront, forefront of a lot of the things that I do.

• 1:05:18Speaker 04

  I think, I think it, it has so many benefits, you know, relationally and, you know, just learning the sport and the ethics behind it, but even just basic health, being outside, being in nature, being in the sun. I mean,

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:34Speaker 04

  There's so many benefits all the way around. And if you can take someone and teach them that and teach them the value of hunting ethically and harvesting organic meat and I mean, it, that, it pays dividends.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  No, we were watching, uh, we had a premiere party. I, I actually saw the two rough drafts before the final version came out and the final version, we waited until that night to watch it. I watched it over friends of ours, friends and family. We all gathered up at their huge television, you know, like a movie screen and, and we watched it, but before we watched it, we, we had moose chili.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Oh, nice.

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  From that moose, you know?

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  That's awesome.

• 1:06:14Speaker 03

  And so it was that moose responsible, not only for the entertainment of the evening, but for feeding everybody at the table.

• 1:06:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:22Speaker 03

  You know, so it was, is, it was, it's a, it was a very special day, a very special thing to see that come out and, uh, to have the, the story in there showing, showing my dad and my brother. It was, um, it was a special, special moment.

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  That's awesome. Let's, uh, let's move on to the next clip here.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  Backstrap and moose heart. That is the first combination of that I've ever had.

• 1:06:56Speaker 04

  Ready?

• 1:07:01Speaker 03

  That is so tender.

• 1:07:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:05Speaker 03

  Got some backstraps too.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're, I'll cook all the heart and then we'll tie into them.

• 1:07:13Speaker 03

  We have a picnic tomorrow with all this meat we got.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  That gum is good.

• 1:07:24Speaker 03

  Well, let's go catch a fish.

• 1:07:27Speaker 04

  Heck yeah. Maybe some walleye for supper.

• 1:07:38Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:07:41Speaker 04

  We found one.

• 1:07:43Speaker 03

  There you go, little fella.

• 1:07:53Speaker 03

  Get back out there. Tell your grandpa.

• 1:08:00Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  That's a good one.

• 1:08:05Speaker 03

  There he is. That'll be a.

• 1:08:10Speaker 03

  Little treat for supper tonight.

• 1:08:12Speaker 04

  You'll eat good.

• 1:08:14Speaker 03

  I'm guessing him fifteen pounds.

• 1:08:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, right on.

• 1:08:21Speaker 03

  Don't you think?

• 1:08:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:08:24Speaker 03

  Fourteen at least.

• 1:08:27Speaker 03

  My fish, I'll say how big he was.

• 1:08:29Speaker 04

  That's right. So, um, I'm, I'm a little jealous of that moose meat. It looked pretty tasty.

• 1:08:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  Was the heart good?

• 1:08:35Speaker 03

  Oh, fantastic. And I've eaten deer heart before. Uh, I had never eaten a bear heart, believe it or not. And, uh, I may, if I'm luck fortunate enough to get one this year, I'll, I'll try it. But that, that moose heart, there's some.

• 1:08:50Speaker 04

  How big was that moose heart?

• 1:08:51Speaker 03

  As big as, um, about like a volleyball.

• 1:08:53Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:08:54Speaker 03

  Close to a volleyball. It was humongous. And I've got, I've got some photos of it, you know, of me holding it. And it's just unreal how big that thing is. But we, we, uh, I brought, I mean, I had to bring some of it home. We were there for

• 1:09:12Speaker 03

  I think four more days, three or four more days where we could, and we ate from the time I killed that moose. That's what we ate. Moose and something every night from then on. And we still didn't eat all that heart.

• 1:09:23Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:09:24Speaker 03

  Oh gosh, yeah, it's huge.

• 1:09:25Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:09:26Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 1:09:27Speaker 04

  What, what did it taste like?

• 1:09:29Speaker 03

  I was expecting, and I like liver. I was expecting the texture of an organ, like a, like a gizzard or a liver. But it, it was just tender. It was absolutely tender. And it was, there was no, people say, and I'm not a fan of the phrase game.

• 1:09:48Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:09:49Speaker 03

  Something tasting gamy. I mean, coon tastes like coon. Fish tastes like fish. Deer tastes like deer meat, you know? Beef tastes like beef. They compare everything to beef, but it's, I mean, it is what it is. Uh, it, it, there was no, there was no strong taste to it.

• 1:10:06Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  No iron taste like you would kind of get with, like you eat with liver. Sometimes you get kind of an iron taste to it. It was, um, it was just really good, man. And.

• 1:10:16Speaker 04

  Did it compare to any other game that you've had?

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  Um, I don't know that I would be able to say, oh, that's moose heart.

• 1:10:26Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:10:26Speaker 03

  I took a bite in a blind taste test. It, it just tasted like good seasoned fried meat.

• 1:10:34Speaker 04

  For those who have never experienced it, what's the feeling of eating meat that you harvested that day?

• 1:10:41Speaker 03

  It's hard from that day. It, it just, it never gets better than that day. It's like fish, you know, I'm not a, I love fish. I'm not a big fan of eating trout. They don't, just don't.

• 1:10:53Speaker 04

  I'm with you.

• 1:10:53Speaker 03

  They don't taste that good to me. But you catch a trout and you cook it on the bank of the river. It's the best thing you've ever eaten.

• 1:11:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:02Speaker 03

  And it's all got to do with environment and where you are, you know, and who you're with.

• 1:11:06Speaker 04

  The experience.

• 1:11:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, the experience.

• 1:11:09Speaker 04

  Okay, here's a big question. Fried fish or moose?

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  Man, I asked Craig that. He said moose. And I, I probably have to tend to agree if it's fresh moose because of the environment. But you bait a trap with a fried fish and you will catch me every time.

• 1:11:24Speaker 04

  Did y'all, did y'all catch walleye?

• 1:11:26Speaker 03

  We did. And it, that was one thing we didn't, Dave was changing out a battery or something and we just kept fishing. We were like, Dave, you're on your own. We're fishing, we're fishing for supper, buddy. And, uh, we didn't get that, or it didn't make it into the film. But we did catch some walleye.

• 1:11:40Speaker 04

  Walleye is great eating.

• 1:11:41Speaker 03

  Oh gosh, yeah. But the pike up there, I mean, that's the, we call that a jackfish down here. But the jackfish we eat down here ain't like those up there. That cold water, man.

• 1:11:51Speaker 04

  Good clean tasting.

• 1:11:53Speaker 03

  It is so good. Yeah, it's great.

• 1:11:54Speaker 04

  Oh, that's awesome. So we've, uh, we've got a couple of comments I wanted, or comments and questions that I just want to kind of run by you here.

• 1:12:03Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:12:03Speaker 04

  Um, we have, I, I'm not going to try to say all of these, uh, names from people who made comments, but Aaron Song 3913 said, I heard that moose is the most tender meat. It doesn't matter how old they are or young. They taste very tender. I don't know how things taste tender, but the, was the backstrap tender?

• 1:12:26Speaker 03

  Yes, it was. And the longer it, the longer we had it hanging in camp, the, the more tender it got.

• 1:12:32Speaker 04

  Did you leave it up the whole week?

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  We did. We left it up for, I think we were there three more days after I killed that.

• 1:12:40Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:12:40Speaker 03

  After I killed that moose and it got.

• 1:12:42Speaker 04

  Yeah. What day did you kill it on? I, I forgot to ask that.

• 1:12:45Speaker 03

  It was like the second full day of hunting, but like the third day that we were there.

• 1:12:49Speaker 04

  Okay. And, uh, it was nice and cool there, I assume.

• 1:12:53Speaker 03

  Oh, gosh, yeah.

• 1:12:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:12:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:12:55Speaker 04

  Um, Jordan Palick 9004 said, only one question I got. Why are they putting quartered meat into plastic bags?

• 1:13:04Speaker 03

  That was get it out of the boat, cross the sandy beach up to the place where we had it laid out to cool. It, it didn't stay in plastic bags.

• 1:13:12Speaker 04

  All right. Um, few more questions. Did you like that style of hunt? Or would you prefer spot and stalk?

• 1:13:20Speaker 03

  Uh, you know, I would like to do the spot and stalk. It would be hard to do that in that country there because of the limited visibility. Um, but, uh, that's, I mean, that's going to be my favorite because it's the only way I've done it so far. I've been on one moose hunting trip and killed a moose. So that was, that would be my preferred. Would I like to try it? Absolutely. And I'd like to try it. My next one with archery.

• 1:13:48Speaker 04

  Okay, okay. Um,

• 1:13:53Speaker 04

  Quinn Scott said, what's a big thing that you took from behind the camera to being on camera? That's a great question.

• 1:14:04Speaker 03

  I think one of the, the things that I learned the most was patience. Being a cameraman, you're always wanting to stretch that shot out as long as you can, you know? You think about a, like a whitetail hunt.

• 1:14:20Speaker 03

  If you just showed the kill shot on a whitetail hunt, like an archery hunt, that video would probably be, it'd be stretching to do 30 seconds.

• 1:14:28Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:14:29Speaker 03

  You know, from start to finish, from the time you see them. And as a cameraman, you're wanting to milk that time out to be able to tell that story. So I think patience is, is an extra sense of, of patience would be what I took from behind the camera to in front. Because I'm, I'm thinking about it, but I'm also thinking about what Dave's looking.

• 1:14:50Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  Looking at, you know? Am I giving him time to get set and everything? Of course, he's, I mean, he's a professional. He's, he's two steps ahead of me where I'm at on, on that part. But it is conscious in my mind, especially if you're filming a hunt, the, the time that it takes to get it right.

• 1:15:07Speaker 04

  Right. Okay. Great answer. Um,

• 1:15:12Speaker 04

  you know, you've, you've had that moose meat quite a while now. Um, Ethan Kenley said, what's your favorite recipe you've made with your moose meat?

• 1:15:20Speaker 03

  Man, we ground, we have a bunch of it in burger. Uh, we have made meatloaf and tacos and burgers and everything you can imagine, but probably my favorite is probably chili.

• 1:15:36Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:15:37Speaker 03

  Uh, the chili's good. The steaks are great. I'm, I'm not saying the steaks aren't good. They are absolutely fantastic.

• 1:15:42Speaker 04

  You chunk it up like into stew meat?

• 1:15:44Speaker 03

  No, it's.

• 1:15:44Speaker 04

  Or you grind it?

• 1:15:45Speaker 03

  Grind it. I had it ground like burger. And, uh, uh, but we did have some stew meat done and I've done recipes with that. And I gave a buddy of mine, uh, a tri-tip and he fixed it and off of that moose. And he said it was unbelievably good. And after he told me that, I thought, dang, I shouldn't have gave it to him.

• 1:16:09Speaker 03

  But it was, uh, it's, it's been really good. There's been no way that we have fixed it that it hadn't been good. And literally anything that you would do with beef or deer meat, you can do with this.

• 1:16:19Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:16:20Speaker 03

  It's, it's really good.

• 1:16:21Speaker 04

  Broad question here, but, um, we got a comment that says, what's the best part about moose hunting?

• 1:16:31Speaker 03

  I can only, I can only attest to this trip because I've only been once. I was never a cameraman on another moose hunt. I mean, this, this is my experience. And the best part about it was, was being there, sharing it with my friends. It, it was,

• 1:16:49Speaker 03

  you know, on a, when I go bow hunting, I'm usually by myself unless it's a filmed event. And I come back and I'm like, man, Josh, I wish you'd have been there.

• 1:16:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:59Speaker 03

  And saw this. You know, it may have something not even anything to do with the moose. It may have been two squirrels fighting. It fell out of a tree. But on that hunt, and to this, to this very moment right now, I can pick up my phone and text Dave or Craig and say, hey, remember when this happened? You know, how cool is that? So I think that's probably my best part.

• 1:17:20Speaker 04

  Absolutely. Well, we've got one more. We've got one more clip here. We want to show.

• 1:17:27Speaker 03

  I hope no one asked which had a bigger effect on me, the moose or the lights. Cause the answer might surprise them.

• 1:17:36Speaker 04

  Quick clip, but the Northern Lights, you, you talked about there in that clip. Don't, if someone were to ask.

• 1:17:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:17:48Speaker 04

  Tell us what that meant to you. Like what, what did it do? You, you talked about the being on the boat and seeing that and that being your, your, your light that you followed home back to camp, but um, it clearly did something to you.

• 1:18:02Speaker 03

  You know, from a little, when I was a little boy, I was reading adventure stories from in seventh grade, I was reading, Peter Hathaway cap stick, you know, death in the long grass about big game hunting in Africa. And before that I was reading Jack London and adventure stories in Alaska. And they talk about the Northern Lights and to me that would have been as foreign as, listening to Neil Armstrong talk about walking on the moon, something that I would never have dreamt I would have got to see. And that has been over a lifetime, you know, I'm 60 years old and I've been thinking about that since I was 10.

• 1:18:44Speaker 03

  And then to be there and to look at it with my eyes, there is no way Dave's camera could capture.

• 1:18:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:52Speaker 03

  All the things that went into that. And it was,

• 1:18:57Speaker 03

  an easy answer for me. The, the Northern Lights were a bigger, had a bigger impact on me than that moose did. Cause I will eat that moose and it'll be gone. And then there will be no more moose, but those lights will be in me forever. And it was amazing to sit there and think that the same creator that made those lights made me. So it, it, it made a very significant, it was a very significant moment for me to sit there and see that. And it was, it has been so good, every, every bit of it.

• 1:19:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:34Speaker 03

  I think about them now and I can't quit smiling about it.

• 1:19:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:37Speaker 03

  You know, it was, they were, you asked a question, we talked when you first got here about,

• 1:19:45Speaker 03

  a lot of the clips that you see of the Northern Lights are sped up. So you can see the movement. You can see the movement in them if you're just sitting there staring at them.

• 1:19:56Speaker 03

  But it is almost like you could hear them. It is an overwhelming experience to sit there and see that. It was for me, you know, and I'm a, I'm a detail oriented person where I try to pay attention to, everything except when Alexis tells me to do something, apparently I'm not very good at that. But it was very easy answer that that had the biggest impact on me and it was all good.

• 1:20:24Speaker 04

  Man, that's great. Any final reflect reflections on the, on the trip?

• 1:20:32Speaker 03

  There was nothing bad about it. You know, it's hard going from getting all that stuff up there. And all the logistics that went into it. I can't tell you how many meetings we had, meetings after meetings after meetings on, prepping and planning. And I knew once I got there and we got feet on the ground, why we had so many of them. Because it is such a big undertaking.

• 1:20:56Speaker 03

  But just the whole experience as a whole, uh, I would, there was, I had, there was no detractors, even the long drive, you know, we, Dave and I flew into Winnipeg and then drove like 10 or 11 hours to the northern part of Manitoba, to catch the float plane to go in there to where Craig was. So, I mean, it was, once we got, I mean, it was,

• 1:21:20Speaker 03

  Katie bar the door, you got to go.

• 1:21:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:22Speaker 03

  You know, we got, you got to load up and, and drive. And then, I mean, it was effort, it took effort to get there. But every bit of it was fun. Every bit of it was, you know, new and refreshing. And I got to share it with my friends and, it just made it so good. It was a,

• 1:21:41Speaker 03

  it, it will be with me forever. And I hope to get to go back and do it again soon, you know, with the, in a different place or with Craig or whatever, but I will go with a bow and, and just get that much closer.

• 1:21:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, thanks for sharing the film with us and, and, uh, and talking, talking with me today. I appreciate it.

• 1:22:01Speaker 03

  Thank you for being here, Josh. I appreciate it. Thank y'all for being here. If you haven't seen it yet, check out the 12 and 26 Manitoba moose hunting episode that I did there on the Meat Eater YouTube channel. Uh, it's been, it's an absolute pleasure to do and I appreciate it. And send your comments in. Anytime you see one of these, when we do one of these companion podcasts, your questions can, could get answered right here on the air. Thank y'all for watching and y'all be careful.

• 1:22:30Speaker 04

  Thanks, everybody.

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