Pod Insights The MeatEater Podcast Ep. 904: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCXXV About this episode Spencer Neuharth https://www.instagram.com/spencerneuharth/?hl=en hosts MeatEater Trivia with Brody Henderson, Cory Calkins, Nate Mason, Sarah Delaney, Omar Lopez, and Jon Montresor.
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0:58 Speaker 04 Welcome to MeatEater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Neuharth, and today we're joined by Brody, Corey, Nate, Omar, Sarah, and John. This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from MeatEater's four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. There is a prize. MeatEater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winners choosing. We're starting today's show with a mailbag question. If you want the crew to answer your question, send an email to trivia@the meat eater.com. The subject line mailbag, this is from Eric from York. He says, "Any advice for staying warm on a cold winter hunt without overheating?
1:39 Speaker 04 I hunt Northern PA and I usually walk one to two miles in, then have long cold sits usually posted up in some sort of downfall. Any tips or gear suggestions to keep you warm without fully overheating first?" John, you work at the flagship store downtown Bozeman. If Eric from York came into the store and told you his conundrum, what advice would you give him?
2:04 Speaker 05 Well, the first thing I would say is to-
2:06 Speaker 04 Fellow PA guy.
2:07 Speaker 05 Yes, yes, grew up in Spring Mills, Pennsylvania. I would say pay attention to that next-to-skin layer first. You have to keep yourself dry. And I just know from my experience, as soon as that next-to-skin layer gets soaked, it's game over for pretty much the entire day. So my recommendation would be- Whatever you're going to a tree stand or a ground blind, uh, hiking with the least amount of stuff possible. Keep your body dry. It's gonna be cold. It's gonna be uncomfortable. Um, but once you get to your stand or wherever you're hunting, I think he said he was sitting in like a pile blowovers.
2:43 Speaker 04 Downfall he calls it.
2:44 Speaker 05 Downfall. Yep. Once you get there, take a second, let your body kind of dry out, vent, and then put on your heavier clothes. It's, it's easier to be miserable for one hour hiking in than for the entire 12 day sit. I would also recommend, um, driving to your spot, whether you're leaving from camp or anything. Don't put the heater on full blast when you're going from point A to point B on going to a trailhead or whatever. Um, that makes your feet sweat and I've learned that the hard way as well. That catches up to you pretty quick.
3:17 Speaker 04 Brody, any advice for this other PA hunter?
3:19 Speaker 06 No, I think John got it. I mean, the main thing is hike cold, like, and you're not even gonna be cold for that long unless it's like minus 40 degrees or something like you can hike in 20, 15, 20 degree weather with like a base layer as your upper layer and you know, maybe some LJ's and pants, but like hike cold. And the other thing I would say is that don't be afraid to build a fire, man. My dad and his buddies used to hunt like the mountains in Pennsylvania all the time. And they would stand around a fire often and they killed bucks doing it. So.
3:56 Speaker 05 And don't be afraid to pack an extra set of base layers with you too.
4:00 Speaker 06 Yeah.
4:00 Speaker 05 Yeah. If you absolutely think you're not gonna make it through the entire day without sweating, have a dry set of, uh, wick base layers to go.
4:07 Speaker 06 Like, it's just like a fact of life. If you're sitting still for 10 hours, you're gonna get cold. Like, I don't think there's any like amount of layering that's gonna get you around. You're gonna get cold. So you're gonna have to get up and walk around now and then.
4:22 Speaker 04 Any other advice for Eric?
4:24 Speaker 07 I'm a big proponent of taking the truck heater thing a step farther and never driving in the socks that I'm gonna wear into the field. Change the socks at the truck before you leave. They're gonna get sweaty.
4:37 Speaker 05 Your driving croc shoes come in handy.
4:39 Speaker 07 Oh, yeah. Well, yeah. You gotta, you gotta have the driving shoes, the hiking shoes.
4:44 Speaker 05 Big muff guy. Put a muff on.
4:46 Speaker 04 I love a hand muff.
4:47 Speaker 05 Dude, I, I fought the muff.
4:48 Speaker 04 When first light and FHF both came out with one.
4:51 Speaker 05 I'm an FHF guy, big fan, but whatever muff, keep your hands warm and then your fingers are nice. And dextrous when you need to pull the trigger.
4:58 Speaker 04 Especially if you're like bow hunting or turkey hunting, we feel like you really need your fingers. Hand muffs are great. As the other folks said, layers so important. I love hand and toe warmers. I know some people like Cal absolutely hate them. Like created by the devil himself, but they work and and they're cheap and effective. And I find, you know, toes and and hands are the first thing to get cold and and those will get you through like a bad 30 minute stretch. They're also not heavy. There's rechargeable ones that exist.
5:27 Speaker 06 Yeah, my dad used those rechargeable ones.
5:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, like Zippo has one. Yeah, there's ones you just plug a battery into or they are a battery.
5:36 Speaker 06 They even had, I don't know if they still make them like that. Actually, you'd light them.
5:41 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. All right, I got a crazy one. What about using a, I'm not recommending this, but Tom Brady in his games and cold games would use a wet suit. And I'm wondering if that would be interesting at all.
5:54 Speaker 05 The wet suit has to get water in it.
5:56 Speaker 04 I'm not.
5:57 Speaker 07 You gotta sweat.
5:59 Speaker 04 You have to sweat so much. You have to run to your tree. Doesn't work.
6:05 Speaker 04 The last one I would say is I had a beard for like eight years and then I got rid of it like two years ago. And what a difference that made. Like a beard genuinely keeps your face warmer when it's really cold out. It made a difference. I don't know what your facial hair situation is, Eric, but like a beard in the fall is is much better than.
6:24 Speaker 06 Good camouflage too.
6:27 Speaker 05 Doesn't work for me.
6:28 Speaker 04 This is about as bearded as I get. Any other advice from Eric or for Eric?
6:32 Speaker 05 Yeah, think about a down kit, down pants and down jacket, packs tight and light.
6:37 Speaker 04 Really light.
6:38 Speaker 05 A little birdie told me first light might be coming out with a new whitetail specific jacket, pants and maybe even something for your feet this fall.
6:45 Speaker 04 All right.
6:46 Speaker 05 Be on the lookout for that.
6:47 Speaker 04 Love that. All right, we have some housekeeping. There's one week left in the auction house of oddities. We have up for bid a kayak, bear hide, handmade bow, dinosaur earrings, a boat motor, signed books, signed board games and more. All the money goes to the Meat Eater Land Access Initiative, which creates more public access for hunters and anglers. Go check out the auction block at the meat eater dot com slash auction.
7:09 Speaker 06 Did you get a bid on that boat motor yet?
7:12 Speaker 04 There's one bid, a singular bid.
7:14 Speaker 05 That's the last great deal in that auction.
7:15 Speaker 04 It is. Well, I think it's even still a good deal. It could go up a few thousand dollars and someone's still going to come away feeling like they won. All right, the Shelby index for today is a four, so our winner should get eight correct answers. With that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil.
7:31 Speaker 03 Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything.
7:37 Speaker 03 How's that? You stand to win everything.
7:46 Speaker 02 Game on, suckers.
7:48 Speaker 04 Question one, the topic is natural history. This first great question is via Titus McKenty. According to the National Drought Mitigation Center, which of these states was hit hardest by the Dust Bowl? Is it Illinois, Oklahoma, Wyoming, or Ohio?
8:11 Speaker 04 Quick answers from Nate, Brody, Cory. According to the National Drought Mitigation Center, which of these states was hit hardest by the Dust Bowl? Is it Illinois, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Ohio?
8:28 Speaker 04 Quick answers.
8:29 Speaker 06 You look quieter today. Are you bringing the vibes like you did last time? No, I'm bringing the heat. You know, I was thinking, you're just like locked in. Locked in, dude. I'm gonna be real bummed if I get this one wrong.
8:39 Speaker 04 Me too.
8:40 Speaker 06 I feel like the first question, when you feel good about it and you get it wrong, you might as well just leave.
8:44 Speaker 02 No.
8:45 Speaker 04 Again, your four states, Illinois, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Ohio, which was hit the hardest by the Dust Bowl? Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers, Cory and Sarah and Omar. The whole room says Oklahoma. The whole room got it right. Well done, room. The correct answer is Oklahoma.
9:04 Speaker 06 Was that our reading? Anybody else in the reading club? Grapes Wrath?
9:08 Speaker 04 Oh, Steinbeck, he loved right about the Dust Bowl.
9:11 Speaker 06 That's why I got that right.
9:12 Speaker 04 Although the Dust Bowl was felt across North America, the six states hit the hardest were Nebraska, Kansas, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, and New Mexico. Those six states became known as the Dust Bowl states. It's estimated that 2.5 million people migrated out of the Dust Bowl states during the 1930s, creating one of the largest migrations in American history. Here's a map from National Geographic showing the driest areas. The general Dust Bowl zone stretches from Lubbock, Texas to Denver, Colorado to Lincoln, Nebraska, but ground zero is the Oklahoma Panhandle and just that general region.
9:52 Speaker 04 Question two, the topic is fishing. This next great question is via Garrett Houston. This morbid term is defined as, quote, "A fishing technique where the bait, lure, or fly flows naturally with the water's current."
10:12 Speaker 04 Sarah, Cory, and Brody all like their answer. This morbid term is defined as, "A fishing technique where the bait, lure, or fly flows naturally with the water's current."
10:24 Speaker 06 Not always. Overrated, yeah.
10:25 Speaker 07 It is not. No, it's not overrated.
10:28 Speaker 06 Twenty years of Biden says it is.
10:30 Speaker 07 With the fly?
10:31 Speaker 04 Wow.
10:32 Speaker 06 Agreed.
10:32 Speaker 04 Overrated. There is going to be some controversial language here in the flavor text then. You guys can duke it out. Got something here that would say it's not overrated. This morbid term is defined as "A fishing technique where the bait, lure, or fly flows naturally with the water's current." Angler Nate, do you have this one right?
10:54 Speaker 05 No, of course not. Dude, I feel, you know what I'm thinking about this? After I got just Drax the last time, I think I should get double. No. On fishing. You know, when you see someone like, like Brody goes and runs a marathon, you're like, cool, bro. That's really impressive.
11:10 Speaker 04 Yep.
11:10 Speaker 05 It'd be like running a marathon without legs. Like, that's how, whenever I'm playing trivia, that's how it is.
11:15 Speaker 07 Well, you just gotta learn how to fish and get good.
11:17 Speaker 06 Grow some legs, dude.
11:18 Speaker 05 Dude, no.
11:20 Speaker 04 Sea legs.
11:21 Speaker 05 Nope.
11:22 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready?
11:23 Speaker 06 It's just that much more impressive. You're just being a crybaby, man.
11:25 Speaker 07 Yeah.
11:26 Speaker 06 It's like, it's nobody else's fault.
11:28 Speaker 05 The fact that I can compete without a whole vertical.
11:31 Speaker 06 No, listen, it's nobody else's fault that you're like an incomplete outdoorsman.
11:35 Speaker 07 Yeah.
11:36 Speaker 05 Yeah. I'm just a victim, dude. My dad never took me fishing. How about that?
11:40 Speaker 07 My dad didn't take me fishing.
11:42 Speaker 06 Got daddy issues over fishing.
11:45 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready?
11:46 Speaker 07 Yeah.
11:47 Speaker 04 Go ahead and reveal your answer.
11:49 Speaker 06 No way dude, let's go.
11:51 Speaker 04 And Sarah say dead drift. Omar without an answer. John, Nate and Brody say dead drift.
11:57 Speaker 07 No.
11:58 Speaker 04 They got it. The correct answer is dead drift.
12:01 Speaker 05 Three to two.
12:02 Speaker 04 Other names to this fishing technique is drag free drift or natural drift. Dead drifting could be, could describe a walleye angler using a bottom bouncer or a fly fisherman throwing a dry fly. Hatch magazine says that mastering the dead drift with any presentation is quote, "The ultimate challenge in fly fishing."
12:20 Speaker 06 How is dragging a bottom bouncer around a dead drift?
12:24 Speaker 04 If you were just going with the current, if you were just like letting the wind push you, I call that a dead drift. It's just naturally going. Uh, so Hatch magazine calls it the ultimate challenge in fly fishing. Brody and Sarah disagree with each other.
12:38 Speaker 07 We do. I think it's.
12:40 Speaker 06 I can tell you that hundreds of, uh,
12:45 Speaker 04 novice.
12:45 Speaker 06 Not very skilled, um, clients.
12:49 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
12:49 Speaker 06 Caught thousands of trout.
12:52 Speaker 04 Okay.
12:53 Speaker 06 Without using a dead drift.
12:54 Speaker 07 I'm not saying that you don't catch trout.
12:57 Speaker 06 Sometimes I would be like, don't mend it. Like you don't want it to dead drift.
13:01 Speaker 04 Okay.
13:01 Speaker 07 It's not that you don't catch trout without a good drag free drift. But with the majority, like if you're fishing small flies and light tackle, like dead bugs don't swim. And you know, it like nymphs aren't like.
13:19 Speaker 06 Dead bugs don't swim, the live ones do.
13:21 Speaker 07 They float.
13:22 Speaker 06 It's like, oh, there's one.
13:23 Speaker 05 No, they like it more rare than overdone.
13:26 Speaker 07 But like, if you're fishing like two little tiny nymphs.
13:30 Speaker 04 Hmm.
13:31 Speaker 07 And light tackle.
13:33 Speaker 06 We can have this argument all day long.
13:35 Speaker 07 Any little tiny drag, your fish, your flies are gonna leave the column in which your flies should be fishing.
13:40 Speaker 04 Corey, what do you think?
13:41 Speaker 05 I would agree that that could be the pinnacle of a fly fisherman's ability.
13:45 Speaker 04 To get a perfect dead drift. Uh huh. But that doesn't always work. Okay.
13:49 Speaker 07 Like with bobber fishing, I think the difference between like locking into fish and consistently catching fish is a really, really good drag free drift.
13:57 Speaker 04 Emerging nymphs.
13:58 Speaker 06 I would say that I didn't weight guide much and I hated nymph fishing.
14:02 Speaker 07 Well, yeah, that's.
14:03 Speaker 06 With a bobber?
14:03 Speaker 07 Yeah.
14:04 Speaker 04 He's a purist.
14:04 Speaker 06 The majority of, I would say like, looking back, half the strikes when I had people nymphing with a bobber, half the strikes came after the drift like ended and the flies started.
14:18 Speaker 07 Oh, they start, yeah, absolutely. But like.
14:20 Speaker 06 That's not a dead drift.
14:21 Speaker 07 It's not a dead drift. Everyone wants.
14:25 Speaker 04 Yep.
14:25 Speaker 07 I think, I think most fly anglers just lock their way into fish relatively consistently.
14:30 Speaker 04 I think so. Question four, excuse me, question three. The topic is foraging.
14:36 Speaker 06 You're holding your tongue, buddy? I got more, but move on.
14:39 Speaker 04 Foraging. The blank cherry, which is known for its extremely tart taste, is the state fruit of North Dakota.
14:47 Speaker 06 Sorry. That was fast, man.
14:48 Speaker 05 Dude, I told you I'm locked in, dude.
14:50 Speaker 04 And that's, that's one word. The blank cherry, which is known for its extremely tart taste, is the state fruit of North Dakota.
14:59 Speaker 06 Shoot. What?
15:01 Speaker 07 Nate, I feel like instead of asking for extra points when you get fishing questions right, you should just learn how to fish. And then you're not, no one's going to give you any.
15:09 Speaker 04 Sarah is begging to teach you how to fish. I feel like I've seen this play out in multiple episodes now.
15:15 Speaker 07 That's wrong. Don't listen to Brady.
15:18 Speaker 05 I just, dude, if I had all the time in the world, I would love to go fishing.
15:23 Speaker 07 It's like, it's such a good shoulder season thing.
15:27 Speaker 06 You know what else it's great for?
15:28 Speaker 05 Tell me.
15:29 Speaker 06 You're gonna have a little kid and you can just take him to the.
15:31 Speaker 05 See, I've been thinking about that.
15:33 Speaker 04 Dude, that's the only thing.
15:35 Speaker 06 A lot lower lift. Fish and they'll be all excited.
15:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, don't do it. Your dad didn't do.
15:40 Speaker 05 Yeah, dude, maybe I can stop the cycle. Yeah.
15:42 Speaker 04 Just do bass fishing, man. I'm telling. Learn from our elders. The blank cherry, which is known for its extremely tart taste, is the state fruit of North Dakota. John, do you have this one right?
15:54 Speaker 05 I don't think so.
15:55 Speaker 04 Omar, do you have this one right?
15:56 Speaker 03 I don't think so either.
15:58 Speaker 04 Corey, without an answer.
15:59 Speaker 05 Oh, that's not true.
16:00 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
16:00 Speaker 05 Ooh.
16:01 Speaker 04 Nate, Sarah, and Brody, like what they have.
16:04 Speaker 06 Oh, I don't know now. I kinda don't.
16:06 Speaker 05 I know. Something came, and we'll see.
16:09 Speaker 04 The blank cherry, which is known for its extremely tart taste, is the state fruit.
16:14 Speaker 06 I'm between two.
16:15 Speaker 03 I just had some cherries too, but I think they're from Washington.
16:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, Rainier cherries are good. Or, uh...
16:23 Speaker 06 Risk it.
16:24 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready? That's how you get the biscuit. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corey says, "Black cherry." Sarah, "Choke." Omar, "Black." John, "Black." Nate, "Choke." Brody, "Choke." The correct answer is the choke cherry.
16:39 Speaker 05 Yeah, buddy.
16:39 Speaker 04 Let's go. Nate, and Brody and Sarah got that one right. The taste of a choke cherry is described as being dry, sharp, sour, and bitter. They are rarely eaten raw, but can be turned into jellies and syrups. Natives would put them into pemmican and pudding, with the inner bark being used in tea to cure sore throats. Choke cherry trees are native to 41 states. Here's a picture of a choke cherry right there.
17:05 Speaker 06 Yeah, you eat those things raw, and you wonder what bears are thinking, man.
17:10 Speaker 04 Yeah. Yeah, I have a choke cherry in my yard. It's one of the most common trees in my whole neighborhood, and, uh, they to- taste awful. The part where they say it makes your mouth dry is legitimate. Your- your mouth has never felt drier than after eating a choke cherry. Question for the topic is biology. Get ready, Phil. This next great question is via Tim Allen.
17:33 Speaker 04 This 11-letter word is defined as, quote, "A scientist who studies the movement, distribution, and quality of water across the Earth's surface."
17:44 Speaker 05 Aren't you married to one of these?
17:46 Speaker 07 Not married, but yes.
17:47 Speaker 04 Hmm. Dating, living with, fiancee too.
17:52 Speaker 07 Dating.
17:52 Speaker 04 Okay. This 11-letter word is defined as, "A scientist who studies the movement, distribution, and quality of water across the Earth's surface."
18:02 Speaker 07 I think if I got this wrong, I would no longer be dating.
18:04 Speaker 03 Man, I met him too.
18:06 Speaker 07 You did?
18:07 Speaker 03 And I remember one part.
18:08 Speaker 04 Hmm.
18:11 Speaker 04 And I don't know if I'm gonna get this right. Is this how he would introduce himself, Sarah? He'd say, "I'm a..."
18:16 Speaker 07 Yeah.
18:16 Speaker 04 Okay.
18:16 Speaker 07 Yeah. No, he did this for the Forest Service for like five years.
18:20 Speaker 04 Tough look for you, Omar.
18:21 Speaker 05 Yeah. One of my top ten favorite conversations I've had in the past year, talking about this subject.
18:26 Speaker 04 Wow.
18:27 Speaker 07 With Cam?
18:27 Speaker 05 Yeah.
18:27 Speaker 04 We'll get the other nine later.
18:29 Speaker 06 Yeah, I was gonna say, I wanna see that list at the end of this.
18:30 Speaker 07 He knows a whole lot about Gallatin Valley water.
18:33 Speaker 05 A ski lift mechanic. That dude was one of the most interesting guys I've talked to.
18:37 Speaker 04 Okay, now we know two of the ten.
18:39 Speaker 05 Yep.
18:39 Speaker 04 This eleven-letter word is defined as a scientist who studies the movement, distribution, and quality of water across the Earth's surface.
18:50 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready?
18:53 Speaker 04 Go ahead and reveal your answers, Cory and Sarah and Omar. Oh no, Omar says hydrochemist. Oh. The rest of the room says hydrologist. Oh. The rest of the room got it right.
19:05 Speaker 07 Tragic.
19:05 Speaker 05 Eleven letters also. Cause you're from Vegas, dude. No water there.
19:10 Speaker 04 No water there. The job of a hydrologist is vast. They analyze the water cycle, manage water resources, monitor water quality, and forecast natural disasters like floods and droughts. The average salary of a hydrologist in the United States is ninety-two thousand dollars per year.
19:30 Speaker 04 Sarah, anything you wanna add about dating a hydrologist?
19:33 Speaker 06 Or what his exact salary is.
19:34 Speaker 07 I, you know, I don't know if I should disclose his exact salary. Um, he...
19:40 Speaker 05 Shared finances?
19:41 Speaker 07 Not yet. Worked in that way. Um, no, he, uh, works for the Gallatin County Department of Environmental Health, doing groundwater and surface water monitoring in Gallatin County. So...
19:55 Speaker 04 An important job.
19:56 Speaker 06 Is he, uh, is he wrapped up in that stuff? Up at the Y C up there?
20:02 Speaker 07 No, he's not. He, um, I th- I think they're just out of his monitoring area. And they, he does like well testing stuff down in Big Sky.
20:13 Speaker 06 Some water trouble making going on.
20:14 Speaker 07 There's a lot of water trouble making.
20:16 Speaker 04 If you're not from here, uh, you don't know this, but there's just not enough water in the Gallatin County as for a lot of the country. And so Sarah's boyfriend is gonna fix that for us. Question five, the topic is gear.
20:27 Speaker 07 Good job, Cam.
20:28 Speaker 04 This Colorado brand, which is named after a big mountain, was created in two thousand and one and is best known for its lightweight camping gear.
20:39 Speaker 06 Man, they make some good stuff.
20:41 Speaker 07 They really do.
20:42 Speaker 04 Brody and Sarah locked in their answers fast as we've seen all game. This is question five.
20:48 Speaker 06 What are they best known for? Oh.
20:49 Speaker 04 This Colorado brand, which is named after a big mountain, was created in 2001 and is best known for its lightweight camping gear.
20:58 Speaker 07 So now they're one of those great, homegrown, small, outdoor brands.
21:01 Speaker 04 Man.
21:02 Speaker 07 They're kinda crushing.
21:04 Speaker 04 Are they making a lot of?
21:04 Speaker 06 Are they hot right now?
21:05 Speaker 07 I will, I, no, I'm not gonna say it.
21:07 Speaker 06 Oh.
21:08 Speaker 07 I'm on a hot streak.
21:09 Speaker 04 Are they hot right now?
21:11 Speaker 06 Been hot for years, baby.
21:13 Speaker 04 Baby?
21:14 Speaker 07 It's kinda, it's kinda one of those if you know, you know things.
21:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:17 Speaker 06 Oh.
21:18 Speaker 04 I think I know.
21:18 Speaker 06 Dude, I think I'm with you, man.
21:20 Speaker 04 Corey, do you have this?
21:20 Speaker 06 I think, I think I know why you think you know.
21:23 Speaker 04 We'll find out. If it's the same brand I'm thinking of, I'm in the market for a Nest for my teepee. Hmm. This Colorado brand, which is named after a big mountain, was created in 2001 and is best known for its lightweight camping gear. How do you like your answer, Nate?
21:39 Speaker 06 Not great. Let's see, buddy. No, I'm, I'm, I might change it. I don't want any of your, I don't want any of your facial maneuvers. I guarantee I'll show no emotion whatsoever. Try, try it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Alright.
21:55 Speaker 06 There's a lot of facial maneuvers. See now?
21:56 Speaker 04 That was pretty emotionless. Oh. This Colorado.
22:01 Speaker 06 I've been taking acting lessons from Phil and he told me how to do like just deadpan, straight face.
22:06 Speaker 04 You're doing great. You're making great progress. Named after a big mountain, was created in 2001 and is best known for its lightweight camping gear. We'll get a scoreboard update from Phil the engineer after this.
22:18 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready? Give me, give me like five, 10 more seconds. Man, I think mine's wrong. We're gonna try it though. We have to put those acting lessons to the test here pretty soon. Uh, there's a new podcast coming out where you'll have some acting from Phil, Brody, Corey, me, Randall. Uh, very excited. I was only, yeah, I only recorded for about 15 minutes.
22:39 Speaker 06 I don't know what he's talking about right now, but it sounds fun.
22:41 Speaker 04 I thought I saw your name in the, in the script. Brody did it. Brody did some.
22:45 Speaker 06 I did?
22:46 Speaker 04 Gunfighters. I don't, I don't think it's a secret. We can say. Oh, I didn't know how, how to tell you. Okay, the Gunfighters Podcast. Yeah. You didn't do a script or table reading for that?
22:54 Speaker 06 Um, I was supposed to, but uh, what's his name?
22:57 Speaker 04 Okay.
22:58 Speaker 06 Jake. Just like, couldn't get my schedule to line up.
23:02 Speaker 04 Nate?
23:05 Speaker 04 Ten seconds. All right. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corey says, Big Agnes. Dang it. Sarah, Big Agnes. Omar, Seek Outside. John, Climate. Nate, Durston. Crossed out, Big Agnes.
23:20 Speaker 07 That's tough.
23:21 Speaker 04 That hurts. Brody, Big Agnes, the correct answer. I got double points on the fishing question. Is Big Agnes. What did Nate have written down when you looked at his whiteboard, Brody?
23:29 Speaker 06 Durston?
23:30 Speaker 04 Yeah.
23:31 Speaker 06 I don't know what that is.
23:32 Speaker 04 Big Agnes is known for their ultra lightweight tents, sleeping pads, sleeping bags, camping furniture, and backpacks. The brand is named after the 12,000 foot Big Agnes Mountain, which sits 30 miles north of downtown Steamboat Springs, where the company is located. Hmm. Phil, scoreboard update.
23:51 Speaker 06 Ooh. Here at halftime, we got Omar hanging on with one point.
23:56 Speaker 04 Sarah.
23:57 Speaker 07 We're in it.
23:58 Speaker 06 John's got three. Corey and Nate are now tied up with four and tied up in first place with Perfect Games are Sarah and Brody.
24:07 Speaker 04 Wow.
24:08 Speaker 06 Five points.
24:08 Speaker 04 Very exciting.
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26:43 Speaker 06 Is that Ronald McDonald with a rifle?
26:44 Speaker 04 No, that's our guy from New York with a snowsuit. Pennsylvania. Question six. The topic is hunting.
26:52 Speaker 07 Same thing.
26:54 Speaker 04 This dog breed with a feminine name is described by AKC as being quote, "smaller than setters, but leggier than spaniels."
27:07 Speaker 04 The room is stopped. This dog breed with a feminine name is described by AKC as being smaller than setters, but leggier than spaniels.
27:19 Speaker 04 Corey, the only player to come up with an answer so far.
27:22 Speaker 03 Maybe? Really?
27:24 Speaker 04 Now Sarah and Brody joining him. This dog breed with a feminine name is described by AKC as being smaller than setters, but leggier than spaniels. Sarah, do you have this one right?
27:35 Speaker 07 I do, yeah.
27:36 Speaker 04 Brody, do you have this one right?
27:37 Speaker 06 I got an answer that makes sense.
27:39 Speaker 04 Okay, Corey, does your answer make sense?
27:41 Speaker 05 In my head.
27:44 Speaker 04 Okay.
27:45 Speaker 05 We're in it.
27:46 Speaker 07 You got it.
27:47 Speaker 05 Yep.
27:47 Speaker 04 Nate, you got this one right?
27:48 Speaker 05 Hunted with some of these this past year.
27:50 Speaker 07 There's a lot, did you know?
27:51 Speaker 05 Yep.
27:52 Speaker 07 A lot of people run them out here.
27:53 Speaker 05 Pheasant.
27:56 Speaker 05 Cool dogs.
27:57 Speaker 07 Yeah.
27:59 Speaker 07 I'd rather have an actual spaniel, but, you know.
28:03 Speaker 04 This dog.
28:05 Speaker 05 I'd rather pet drift a pheasant fly down upstream.
28:09 Speaker 04 Described by AKC as being smaller than setters, but leggier than spaniels.
28:14 Speaker 07 Unless all you do is, yeah, I'll leave that for...
28:18 Speaker 05 What, bow hunt big old bowls?
28:20 Speaker 07 No.
28:22 Speaker 05 You're right, little bowls and cows.
28:24 Speaker 07 I don't...
28:25 Speaker 04 Omar, John, are we ready? Give up?
28:28 Speaker 05 Give up.
28:29 Speaker 04 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corey says collie, Sarah, Brittany, Omar, John without an answer, Nate and Brody say Brittany, they got it. The correct answer is Brittany. The AKC calls the breed a quote stylish and versatile gun dog. They say Britneys are quick and rugged dogs that require a lot of exercise. Gun Dog Magazine calls intelligence their strongest trait, but warns that it can work for and against you. All right, what do we got for a review for hunting with a Brittany, Nate?
29:02 Speaker 05 It was great. I mean, I love my dog, but he still kinda sucks mainly because I suck at hunting. And those dogs were great. Like, we shot a pheasant and it dropped and four dogs couldn't find that pheasant. And that Brittany just ran right over and grabbed it.
29:16 Speaker 07 I just think if you all, if you're pheasant hunting, like specifically, there is no better tool than an English Springer's manual.
29:24 Speaker 06 That's why I got one.
29:25 Speaker 07 They're the best.
29:26 Speaker 05 Is that what you got? I thought you had labs.
29:28 Speaker 06 No.
29:29 Speaker 07 Springer's are like labs, but more fun.
29:32 Speaker 04 Question seven, the topic is fishing. This next great question is via Josie Vandenberg.
29:37 Speaker 07 More fun. More fun than the most fun you can have.
29:39 Speaker 04 Idaho's Salmon River was given this nickname because its powerful currents and dangerous rapids make it impossible to row back upstream.
29:51 Speaker 04 Brody.
29:52 Speaker 05 What's the category of this?
29:53 Speaker 04 Corey, this is fishing. Idaho's Salmon River was given this nickname because its powerful currents and dangerous rapids make it impossible to row back upstream.
30:06 Speaker 04 Corey, you got this one right.
30:07 Speaker 06 I had no idea that's where that name came from.
30:11 Speaker 06 Good question, Spencer.
30:13 Speaker 04 Thank you, thank you. This is via Josie. Idaho's Salmon River was given this nickname because its powerful currents and dangerous rapids make it impossible to row back upstream.
30:25 Speaker 04 Nate now joining them with an answer.
30:27 Speaker 05 With a guess?
30:28 Speaker 04 With a guess. Corey, have you ever been on the Salmon River?
30:31 Speaker 05 I have not.
30:32 Speaker 04 Brody?
30:32 Speaker 07 Would love to.
30:33 Speaker 06 Nope.
30:33 Speaker 04 Sarah? No, our three fly fisher.
30:37 Speaker 06 Do that one that where you fly in, there's an airstrip and then you float down.
30:41 Speaker 07 Is that like the middle fork?
30:43 Speaker 06 I think so.
30:47 Speaker 04 Corey and Brody think they have this one right. Nate, do you have this one right?
30:50 Speaker 05 Absolutely not.
30:50 Speaker 04 No.
30:51 Speaker 05 Although I said that last time.
30:52 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm.
30:53 Speaker 05 And I had it.
30:53 Speaker 07 You have said that for the past couple.
30:56 Speaker 06 Well.
30:57 Speaker 07 Shark.
30:58 Speaker 04 This is question seven. Idaho's Salmon River was given this nickname because its powerful currents and dangerous rapids make it impossible to row back upstream.
31:11 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready?
31:15 Speaker 04 Sarah coming up with an answer. We're gonna flip over the whiteboards after that. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corey says River of No Return. Sarah says Hell's Canyon. Omar, River of No Return. John, Hell's Canyon. Nate, Water Slide. Brody, River of No Return. The correct answer is the River of No Return. Early settlers in the region gave the Salmon River this nickname because it was considered a one-way street. Once boats entered the canyon portion of the river, they would only travel downstream. And when they'd reach their destination, the boats would be disassembled and used for lumber. The River of No Return is known for its Steelhead, Chinook Salmon, Cutthroat Trout, Bull Trout,
31:58 Speaker 04 Sam- Smallmouth Bass, and White Sturgeon. Question eight, the topic is gear. FFS, which stands for blank, blank, blank, was called, quote, "The most polarizing topic in the fishing world" by Outdoor Life in 2024.
32:18 Speaker 05 This is a fishing question.
32:20 Speaker 04 The gear question.
32:21 Speaker 05 Fishing question.
32:22 Speaker 04 Also fishing. FFS, which stands for blank, blank, blank, was called "The most polarizing topic in the fishing world" by Outdoor Life in 2024.
32:33 Speaker 05 You got this one?
32:35 Speaker 06 Do I have it right?
32:36 Speaker 05 Yeah.
32:36 Speaker 06 Yes.
32:36 Speaker 04 Nate and Brody like their answers.
32:39 Speaker 05 Closing the gap with Sarah.
32:41 Speaker 04 Or other four players.
32:41 Speaker 05 Nate, how do you know this? Cause I'm smart. Cause you fish?
32:45 Speaker 07 Is that why you're asking for extra points if you get questions right?
32:48 Speaker 05 No, that's cause I have no shame.
32:51 Speaker 07 Okay.
32:52 Speaker 05 I think, I think we should also implement a squaring dimension, like points, non-resident points and stuff. So when I get the second fishing question right, I actually get plus four. There you go. One of those Fs should be pretty obvious.
33:05 Speaker 04 FFS, which stands for blank, blank, blank.
33:09 Speaker 05 I mean, I was in the fishing world and this wasn't polarizing.
33:13 Speaker 04 Was called "The most polarizing topic in the fishing world" by Outdoor Life in 2024.
33:19 Speaker 05 Was it hard to see and think? Because of this was going on.
33:23 Speaker 06 I don't know if we're thinking about the same thing.
33:27 Speaker 05 Watch it.
33:27 Speaker 06 Hint for your little fishing buddy over there.
33:32 Speaker 04 FFS, which stands for blank, blank, blank, was called the most polarizing topic in the fishing world by Outdoor Life in 2024. We'll get a scoreboard update from Phil after this. Corey, do you give up?
33:45 Speaker 06 Yeah.
33:46 Speaker 04 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corey says fish, blank, blank, Sarah. Fish finding sonar. Omar and John without an answer. Nate and Brody say forward facing sonar. They got it. The correct answer is forward facing sonar.
34:05 Speaker 03 Two points.
34:05 Speaker 05 That's almost as cheating as dragging your flies around.
34:08 Speaker 06 Yep, exactly.
34:10 Speaker 04 Forward facing sonar is unique because it provides a live, real time look at what's happening underwater. It's league, it, its legality varies by tournament. The National Professional Fishing League has banned the technology. The Bass Elite Series flips a coin to determine which events will allow it and which will not. Major League Fishing lets anglers use it once a day during a selected time slot. All right, Phil, scoreboard update, two questions to go.
34:39 Speaker 06 Things have changed a little bit around here. Omar's got two now. John's still sitting there, sitting pretty with three. Corey's got five. Now Sarah and Nate are tied up with six and Brody has pulled ahead. He's two points ahead actually with eight.
34:55 Speaker 04 Brody can get question nine right, he'll wrapped up the victory. See if he can get the perfect game.
35:00 Speaker 05 Omar, you came in real hot the first time you're on here.
35:03 Speaker 04 I don't know what happened, man. It's rusty now. It's been a couple of weeks. Question nine, the topic is conservation. About half of North America's 250 native orchid species are found in this state.
35:19 Speaker 04 Brody and Nate wrestling over whiteboards over there. See if you can write their answer quicker. About half of North America's 250 native orchid species are found in this state.
35:35 Speaker 04 Does that help you?
35:38 Speaker 05 It helps sitting over here so I can stare at the question.
35:40 Speaker 04 If Brody gets this wrong, but Sarah or Nate get it right, we'll still have a ballgame going into number 10.
35:48 Speaker 04 I feel like we should combine forces. I know. Cause I'm fifty fifty on this. Hmm. Yeah, if you guys can. You take one, I take the other. States that would help your odds.
35:59 Speaker 04 About half of North America's two hundred fifty native orchid species are found in this state.
36:05 Speaker 06 Hold up.
36:08 Speaker 04 Brody, how many states did you have narrowed down to?
36:11 Speaker 06 I had three, but really like, I'm just going.
36:15 Speaker 04 Okay.
36:16 Speaker 06 Not really. Don't know. Don't know. Not feeling great.
36:21 Speaker 04 Is everybody ready?
36:22 Speaker 06 Give me a sec.
36:23 Speaker 04 No. John doing some writing. Brody's hot streak over the last few months has seemed exceptionally hot. He's been very good. Um, and we haven't gone to overtime, I think, in months now. Yeah. And that speaks to the dominance of often Brody, sometimes Randall.
36:42 Speaker 04 Usually not dominant at the same time.
36:43 Speaker 06 I want to change it now.
36:45 Speaker 04 Do you guys have the same answer? No, it's cheating. Sarah, are you ready?
36:50 Speaker 07 Sure.
36:51 Speaker 04 Go ahead and reveal your answers. Corey says Hawaii, Sarah, Georgia, Omar, Washington, John, Florida, Nate, Florida, Brody, Florida. The correct answer
37:06 Speaker 04 is Florida. Oh, man. Giving Brody the victory, but we still have one question to go. We'll see if he can get the perfect game. South Florida's warm, wet and humid climate makes it the continent's most orchid-rich place. About half of the state's orchids are considered endangered, largely due to habitat destruction. Florida's most famous species is the ghost orchid, of which there are about one thousand left in the state. It's believed that their only pollinator is the sphinx moth. Here's a picture of a ghost orchid. People go, uh, travel there from far away to get a glimpse of one of those. They only bloom for like a week. You got that on your list of curiosities you're gonna go see? I mean, I would love to, but I don't think it's gonna, I can't plan a whole trip to the Everglades just to, you know,
37:50 Speaker 04 be there for the one week when these things are open. Is that a group of people, like birders?
37:54 Speaker 06 Is there flowers? Gotta be.
37:56 Speaker 04 I think orchids specifically have a very religious following.
38:00 Speaker 06 What do they call themselves?
38:01 Speaker 04 I don't know what that person would be.
38:02 Speaker 05 Orchidites.
38:03 Speaker 04 Yeah. Here's a correct answer review so far. One was Oklahoma, two Dead Drift, three Choke Cherry, four Hydrologist, five Big Agnes, six Brittany, seven River of No Return, eight Forward Facing Sonar, nine Florida. Phil, scoreboard update. As we already said, Brody has secured the bag, but Nate is two points ahead with seven, or two points behind, excuse me. Question 10, the topic is public lands, and if Brody can get this right, Meat Eater will double that donation to a thousand dollars.
38:38 Speaker 06 We'll all put our heads together.
38:39 Speaker 04 This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Jim Natol for sending this great question. Jim is going to get a $150 first light gift card. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to [email protected] . All right, the topic is public lands. This president had a tunnel system constructed in 1935 at New York's Whiteface Mountain so that those in wheelchairs could reach the summit.
39:08 Speaker 04 This president had a tunnel system constructed in 1935 at New York's Whiteface Mountain so that those in wheelchairs could reach the summit. Brody, do you have this one right?
39:22 Speaker 06 Pretty sure I do.
39:23 Speaker 04 Okay.
39:25 Speaker 06 I feel like that, oh, there's a big clue in there. You alive for this guy?
39:33 Speaker 04 He voted for him.
39:35 Speaker 07 Yep, twice, actually.
39:37 Speaker 05 Just before the dust.
39:38 Speaker 06 I talked about this ageism stuff before in here, Nate. Maybe you weren't present, but you know, there's an HR department upstairs, so it's gonna find out. We're real tight, don't worry.
39:47 Speaker 04 This president had a tunnel system constructed in 1935 at New York's Whiteface Mountain so that those in wheelchairs could reach the summit. Is everybody ready?
39:59 Speaker 04 Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Corey saying FDR, Sarah, FDR, Omar says Hoover, John says LBJ, Nate and Brody say FDR. The correct answer is Franklin D Roosevelt, FDR. I was staring at his face.
40:18 Speaker 05 Yeah, LBJ would have been like 10.
40:20 Speaker 04 That means Brody got that one right, giving him the perfect game. Well done, Brody.
40:26 Speaker 06 Thank you, thank you.
40:27 Speaker 04 FDR was the 32nd president, serving from 1933 to 1945. He caught polio in 1921 at the age of 39, which paralyzed his legs and put him in a wheelchair. In his third year as president, he mandated the construction of an in-mountain elevator system and pedestrian tunnel at Whiteface Mountain, one of the tallest mountains in the Adirondacks. Now, visitors with mobility issues can reach the summit via 400-foot tunnel and 300-foot elevator.
40:57 Speaker 07 It's pretty nice because hiking up Whiteface Mountain is like about as opposite from a pedestrian-friendly tunnel as you can get.
41:05 Speaker 04 Oh, you've been there. Did you go in the elevator?
41:07 Speaker 07 No, I walked up the side.
41:09 Speaker 04 You did it the hard way.
41:10 Speaker 07 It's like, I think it's like 1,500 feet again in a mile or something. It's disgusting.
41:15 Speaker 04 All right, Brody, $1,000 donation today. What are you gonna do with all that money?
41:20 Speaker 06 It's been a pretty tough wildfire season already, and it's probably only gonna get tougher, so we'll donate to wildlandfirefighters.org, I think is the name of it.
41:31 Speaker 04 Okay, $1,000 going their way from Brody and Meat Eater. I think that's one of our first perfect games of the year, probably the first time we've donated to those folks.
41:39 Speaker 06 I think I hit him once before.
41:42 Speaker 04 Give him $1,000 more. Join us next week for more Meat Eater trivia, the only game show where conservation wins.
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