Ep. 748: Campfire Nachos and Jonathan Taylor Thomas | MeatEater Radio Live!

Hosts Randall Williams, Spencer Neuharth, and Cory Calkins chat with Kevin Hogan of Rock Island Auction, have a listener submitted Hot Tip-Off, dive into 1997's Wild America in the MeatEater Movie Club, and share some bespoke Top 3s. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork Subscribe to The MeatEater Podcast Network https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork MeatEater on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/meateater, Facebook https://www.facebook.com/StevenRinellaMeatEater/, Twitter https://twitter.com/MeatEaterTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor, and YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@MeatEaterPodcastNetwork See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 2:41Speaker 03

  Smell us now, lady. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia. Meat Eater Podcast.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. Today is Thursday, August 14th. It's 11 a.m. Mountain Time here in Bozeman, Montana. That's 9 a.m. in Tallahassee, Florida, the new black bear hunting capital of the country. I'm your host, Randall Williams, and I'm joined today by Spencer Neuharth and Cory Calkins. Hey. Today's show, we're going to hear about some fascinating firearms from our friends at Rock Island Auctions. We've got another hot tip-off for you. We're getting together the old Meat Eater Movie Club to discuss the film Wild America, and we will wrap everything up with a little segment we like to call Top Three. Corey, Spencer, how are you fine gentlemen doing today? Doing great. Very good. Very excited to get to our top threes. Excellent. Excellent.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Well, you've got to wait because we've got three wonderful segments before that.

• 3:53Speaker 04

  I'm excited for the Meat Eater Movie Club because I know it's obviously a banger of a film, and I know you have some wonderful notes.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  It's a, it's a, it's a fan favorite, I think. A fan favorite. How did this recommendation come to you? Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm talking about Meat Eater Movie Club.

• 4:09Speaker 02

  Got Phil, got Phil. He always do. Um, no, I, I, I actually, the film was recommended by a couple, uh, it was in a couple of emails to us. And, and I remember watching it when I was little and the only thing I could remember is the, you know, the climatic scene in the, in the bear cave. So we'll get to all that. We'll get to all that.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Can I, can I make a request for Movie Club?

• 4:29Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 4:29Speaker 03

  Would you rank all of the movies we've, not right now, but like some future episode, uh, maybe at the end of the year?

• 4:36Speaker 02

  I think that's a tremendous idea.

• 4:37Speaker 03

  Do a recap, um, here's the best and here's the worst.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  Maybe you've got some awards, like best cinematography goes to.

• 4:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:45Speaker 03

  Wild America.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  We can call it the, not the Razzies.

• 4:48Speaker 03

  The Randys.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  The Randys. That's great.

• 4:50Speaker 03

  There we go.

• 4:50Speaker 02

  We could just have a whole episode where I just reread all of the, all of the bits that I've done.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  Uh, we need some shows over Christmas break.

• 4:58Speaker 02

  We do. Yeah, that'll be some good filler.

• 4:59Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  Now, before we get too far, uh, we have a couple of exciting new things to announce here. Uh, today, actually, Rich Froning's In Pursuit podcast just took over what used to be the Cutting the Distance podcast. So you can join Rich every Thursday on the Meat Eater Podcast YouTube channel or wherever you listen to your podcasts. And at this very moment, 11 a.m. Mountain Time, uh, the Meat Eater YouTube channel has launched a video recap of the Mountain Men tour that Steve and I did earlier this year. Uh, we went around to a couple of different universities in the West and talked about our Meat Eater's American History Mountain Men audiobook. And Steve and I also got to visit a museum, Museum of the Mountain Men in Pinedale, Wyoming.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  And we got to shoot some black powder guns and, uh.

• 5:47Speaker 03

  The video shows that, shows you boys.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  It does. It does. It, it actually shows my first, my very first attempt at shooting a, uh, uh, flintlock rifle.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  You say attempt?

• 6:00Speaker 02

  It was, it went poorly.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  Oh, okay.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  There was a, uh, I, I was prepared for the delay between the flash and the pan and the

• 6:06Speaker 03

  Hang fire, is that what it's called?

• 6:08Speaker 02

  It wasn't, it wasn't a full-on hang fire, but, uh, by the time the rifle discharged, I was pointing it elsewhere. I was, I was pointing it at the ground. My flinch had already hit me, so it's embarrassing and I would hope they cut that from the film, but that is included. And certainly Steve had some choice words to say at that moment.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  To you?

• 6:28Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, he was tickled. He was tickled by my failure to hit the target.

• 6:32Speaker 03

  See that now on the Meade or YouTube channel.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  Indeed. Also, we have a note from Mark Kenyon in the chat. He would, he would like everyone to know that there are brand-new Wired to Hunt hats and t-shirts in the store. Shameless plug from Mark Kenyon. I don't know if they're in the store at this moment or if they're coming. Mark, let us know, you know?

• 6:49Speaker 03

  It's Yanni's favorite hat. Yanni wears that hat, uh, every day. I see him at the office.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  You see him at the office every day?

• 6:56Speaker 03

  Um, every day that I see him at the office.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  So, want some off? It's an important distinction.

• 7:01Speaker 03

  It's his favorite hat, uh, from our selection.

• 7:05Speaker 04

  Excellent. I could butt in here and say the hats and shirts are available, so make Mark happy.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  Jeez, another, another shameless plug. Let's get away from the commercial nastiness of this whole enterprise and get into the good stuff here. Speaking of historical firearms, to connect the thing I had just said a few minutes before we got into the t-shirt selling, to the upcoming segment, uh, for our first and only guest on today's show, we're talking to Kevin Hogan, the president of Rock Island Auction. Kevin, welcome to the show.

• 7:37Speaker 05

  What's up, boys? We got hats and t-shirts, too.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Oh, really? Would you, yeah, where can we find those? RockIslandAuction.com?

• 7:44Speaker 05

  No, you actually gotta come here and buy them. We're not, we're not that advanced yet, but, uh, we're proud of them, too.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  So, could you tell us where you are? And I know you got a couple guns to show us, but you could tell us a little bit about where you are in the, uh, the auction that these guns will be in.

• 7:58Speaker 05

  Yes, sir. So we're in Bedford, Texas. I'm Kevin Hogan, President of Rock Island Auction Company. We're located in Bedford, Texas. Um, we've been in business for 30 years. We were, uh, kind of on the, well, we were in, we were in Illinois for up till 2023. Um, and then we moved down here to the Lone Star State. And, um, it's, it's been great. So we're right in the middle of DFW. We're 30 minutes from Fort Worth, 30 minutes from Dallas, 10 minutes from DFW Airport. Um, we got down here as soon as we could. So it's been, it's been absolutely wonderful. We handle the finest guns in the world. Uh, we do it three times a year and we got a great sale this weekend. So we'll be selling Friday through Sunday.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  Excellent.

• 8:36Speaker 03

  Kevin, being in Texas seems like what I would imagine to be like the core of, uh, the, the demographic of your buyers. Is that case? Is that the case? Is it very Texas?

• 8:47Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, like country is countrywide, right? And I mean, we have 34 countries that'll participate in our sales. Um, but you know, Texas has, it's not the best gun culture in the United States. It's the best gun culture in the world. And you know, you draw that line from Dallas to San Antonio, San Antonio to Houston. You got the golden triangle. I mean, there's nine million people here in DFW and, um, you know, more and more, there's, there's more, there's more business on the deer blind here than there is on the golf course. And, uh, it's been, it's been a great place for us to be. But if you break it down, you know, by population densities, I mean, we're, we're from the formerly great state of, of Illinois. And I mean, Illinois is a great state, but you just have,

• 9:28Speaker 05

  you know, 30 miles surrounded by reality, which is Chicago. Um, but it's population densities that buy guns. So Texas is number one, but California is number two. Uh, Florida, Pennsylvania, Illinois, all right up there. It's population densities.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  Interesting. Can you, uh, can you tell us about the first firearm you have to show us here?

• 9:49Speaker 05

  Sure, man. Um, we got some, we got some fun stuff. So, everything I'm gonna show you, we're gonna start selling tomorrow. Um, this is, this is lot number forty-four. We'll sell it within the first thirty minutes tomorrow morning. We start selling at nine AM Central time. This is Steve McQueen's mare's leg. Um, I don't know how much introduction it does or doesn't need to, to the viewers. For me, I'm thirty-seven years old. Um, you know, what does, what does Steve McQueen mean generationally to, to my generation? What does it mean to that baby boomer generation? But this gun, for so many, we've had it on display for three weeks. I mean,

• 10:27Speaker 05

  we've had people come from around the country to kind of pay homage to it. Um, the imagination that it inspired them, right? When they were, they were a youth, the kind of how they whatever formulated their lives. It's, it was, it's meaningful, um, to a lot of people. Steve McQueen, the king of cool. Um, this was, this was the mare's leg from, from his show, uh, Wanted Dead or Alive, and it's a, we sold some really cool, like, pop culture items. Um, I'm looking forward to this one. Most notably, we had uh, Han Solo's original blaster from the original Star Wars movie, uh, New Hope. We actually made the Guinness Book of World Records with, with that gun. That gun brought

• 11:06Speaker 05

  just over a million dollars. We had John Wayne's single action, um, his favorite kind of screen used gun that he used and Rio Bravo, True Grit, uh, Rooster Cockburn, but Steve McQueen strikes a different chord with people, obviously, again, that the king of cool and, um, I think, you know, this gun kind of embodies that. It's because at the end of the day, it is, it is cool.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Can you, can you, I've always been curious. Can you tell us about the origin of the term mare's leg? I mean, it typically refers to, uh, uh, lever action that's been shortened and then the stock has been cut off just below the, the sort of wrist of the stock. But do you know about the history of that term?

• 11:46Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, like, I think just from the, from the visual, you could say it's there, but um, what we were reading is, I can't, he did a, I think it's in his autobiography, he's talking about the development of this gun with uh, Kenneth Von Dutch, which is just another cool piece of American pop culture, the famous fabricator, um, and McQueen was a method actor, and so he, he took, he took, they made three of these, he took one of the original examples that didn't have the plug barrel, because this is a blank firing gun only. He took it to the range, um, and I think the one that he said he was shooting was like a forty-five seventy, and uh, it kicked like a mare's leg, was, was basically, so apart from, apart from the visual, yeah, they said even this gun on the blank load,

• 12:27Speaker 05

  uh, it was, it was so short and so powerful, they had to like shorten the blank load, uh, that they were doing to like a third of the power.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  That's great, that had never occurred to me, but certainly the experience would probably bring to mind getting kicked, um.

• 12:40Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  What, what, what have you got for your second gun here today?

• 12:44Speaker 05

  So, uh, also, we're selling this sucker tomorrow, um,

• 12:50Speaker 05

  Smith and Wesson, new model number three, um, that letters to Annie Oakley. So, if you take a look, like, just a few things are, you can see this like shotgun sight uh, on the front, and it's, it's a smooth bore, so the gun was made in eighteen ninety-five, and it was, it was shipped directly to Annie Oakley. And so like, we get a lot of like historical guns that, that get run past us, and, and provenance is everything. And like, my, my story's not like great, but it's, it's almost every time we get a historic gun, I mean, for every historic gun we sell, there's, there's fifty or seventy-five that we don't, because they don't, they don't quite meet muster, but like, you know, the great uh, cinema classic, Half Baked, and he's talking about how he bought Jerry Garcia in a pouch.

• 13:37Speaker 05

  How do you know that, or who told you that, it's the guy that sold it to me, and so, you know, there's so many like, so many stories about, about guns, um, but, but provenance is everything. Unfortunately, some of this stuff's real, and it's lost to time, space, and history, but this one letters right from the factory to Annie Oakley as a smooth bore, um, and um, she's, she's as relevant now as, as she was, you know, in eighteen ninety-five, when the gun was made, she would, if you think about it, she was really like one of the first real international female superstars. I mean, she, she was, her, her shooting prowess, and she, I mean, she was, she was tough as nails, too, she uh, Tried to raise a regiment of of all female sharpshooters, both in the Spanish American

• 14:18Speaker 05

  War and in World War One. Um, she was tough. I mean, she started fishing, hunting and trapping when she was seven years old and and and did it for for the right reasons. They're putting food on the table. She was she was tough. And so, um, it's pretty, I mean, you think about what this gun saw. This is eighteen ninety-five. She's thirty-five years old. She's five foot on paper, um, a hundred pounds soaking wet and sitting sitting bull is watching watching her, you know, shoot and shoot this guy, you know, and he's the one that tagged her little mischievous shot. Um.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  That's incredible. That's incredible. Um, could you tell us what you expect the uh, that that pistol to to make it auction? And and also, I forgot to ask you about the mare's leg, too. Do you have an expected valuation of those?

• 15:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, the mare's leg, I think we got in around, uh, like fifty to seventy-five thousand as a low estimate. It's really hard to comp some of this stuff, right? So you have a an intrinsic value exercise versus history, but we our estimate on the mare's legs fifty to seventy-five. Annie Oakley, I believe, is sixty to ninety thousand. Um, we have sold several Annie Oakley guns. I mean, that was her craft. She guns were her tools. She had a lot of guns. Um, most of those have been lost to time, space and history, but they were actually hers. Um, but we've sold them. We've sold any Oakley guns for for for huge dollars. We've never sold a revolver. I mean, typically, you think of Annie Oakley, you think of like a twenty-two eighteen ninety Winchester or or shotgun. Um, but, uh, yeah, I mean, I I I expect it to be spirited. I expect it to be spirited, but I don't have

• 15:51Speaker 05

  a crystal ball. I'll tell you. I'll tell you tomorrow night when it's all said and done.

• 15:53Speaker 02

  Excellent. Excellent. And what, uh, to wrap things up here, what's the third and final item you got?

• 16:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, this is, I mean, we say we handle the finest guns in the world. Um. That's what you're looking at here. This is the, I mean, this is the best marlin that we've ever had. We've been in business for thirty years. We handle the best guns in the world, but this is as good as it gets for what we do. Uh, fine and historic firearms collecting. We trademarked the phrase, not all artists framed. I mean, this is, this is for that very reason. It's a Conrad Frederick, uh, factory engraved gold and platinum midlay. It's a marlin model of eighteen ninety-three manufactured in eighteen ninety-six. Um, and apart from it being, you know, jaw-droppingly beautiful and extremely rare and likewise extremely expensive.

• 16:41Speaker 05

  Um, it's kind of a neat story. It was maintained by the same family in Connecticut for well over a hundred years. It's been passed down as a family heirloom. Um, you know, it's like the old, he would take it, the, the owner would take it to the gun shop. Once every two or three years to have them oil it. He didn't, he didn't feel comfortable doing it. And, uh, you know, naturally people start showing up at the gun shop and offers start getting made. And I think it went from five thousand dollars, eight thousand dollars to twelve thousand dollars to fifteen thousand dollars. And, uh, when we, when we talked to these folks, did you think, you think it could bring thirty grand? And I think that gun's gonna set a world record for a

• 17:17Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 17:17Speaker 05

  Uh, eighteen ninety-three. I think it's gonna, I think it's gonna blow past a hundred and fifty thousand dollars pretty quick.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  Uh, you had talked about the Annie Oakley gun and if it would pass the muster. What is the authentication process like when you get a gun that was supposedly owned by a famous person like that?

• 17:34Speaker 05

  So this one, this one made it easy. Um, you can contact like Smith and Wesson. They have their factory archive and their factory, factory ledgers. Now, the, what they were doing back then, if someone was having a bad day, what was being recorded, what wasn't being recorded. There, there wasn't a great standardization, but this gun lettered specifically as shipped to Annie Oakley, but right from the factory to her. And that's, that's as good and solid, um, as you can get. I think it's also worth mentioning, you know, this gun. I believe it was discovered at a gun show. You know, I think, I think the gentleman purchased it for two thousand dollars. Um, it was unknown and, and then he did the legwork on, on, on getting a letter from the factory and it going straight to her. But, you know,

• 18:17Speaker 03

  That's incredible.

• 18:18Speaker 05

  And we see it in everything. I mean, what? Human error and people, I mean, like Colt, very famously, the Colt records burned um in eighteen, eighteen sixty-one, eighteen sixty-two, the factory had a huge fire and we lost all their records. Winchester has really good records, unfortunately Marlin has, has poor records, but luckily with this gun, uh, Smith and Wesson had the, had the records.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  We, uh, Steve and I have been working on a, uh, an audio book about the Buffalo hunters and I think one of the more fascinating sources that you can come across, there's a whole archive from the Sharps Rifle Manufacturing Company that they have all these letters from Buffalo hunters and it's just amazing that, that those records are maintained by those companies and then all of the, the little tidbits you can pull out of it.

• 19:05Speaker 05

  Absolutely, it'll shock you both ways, like what we have and then what we don't have. I mean, I think we did, one of our guys did, did one of your shows previously and we had that, it was a seventy caliber Hawken rifle that came out of Sagamore Hill out of Roosevelt stuff and, and Teddy's own writing, it said Kit Carson's rifle. But like where the connection was or wasn't to, to Kit Carson was lost to time, history and space, but in, in Teddy's own hand, it was Kit Carson's rifle, you know, it very well, it, it probably was, but we, we couldn't place it there. And that's kind of the frustration you get on chasing down historic guns and trying to, you know, you'd like it to be as simple and straightforward as if this gun shipped from Springfield, Mass. to Annie Oakley in eighteen ninety-five. Uh, unfortunately, it's, it's not always the case.

• 19:51Speaker 02

  Fascinating. Uh, that, that Marlin you pulled up, um, that looked like an engraving of a deer on the, on the side of it. Can you describe for our viewers, um, sort of what the visuals are like on the receiver?

• 20:04Speaker 05

  Yeah, so we call it a, it's, it's a panel scene, so on your, on your loading gate side, um, yeah, we have a, a running deer. Um, then you can see like the oak leaf and acorn pattern, then you can see the multi precious metals when I roll it, you can see gold and platinum.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 20:19Speaker 05

  Um, and then. The, the large panel scene is a bull moose and a cow and I just, when I roll it, you can see the condition and condition and what we do is like location, real estate. It's conditioned, conditioned. This is, I mean, this is a time capsule and so like you can see the, and the gold inlay on the hammer.

• 20:40Speaker 05

  The carving and the chattering on the wood. I mean, Marlin, Colts and Winchesters are always what we consider the blue chip of fine historic American firearms collecting. You always think of Colts and Winchesters, but you know, Marlin is to lever actions like Smith and Wesson is to the revolvers on, on the Colt single actions and Marlin doesn't get the the credit that it deserves. The, the artist and we, I say that in every sense of the word who engraved that gun, Conrad Frederick Ulrich actually started at Winchester and then would move to Marlin and become their head engraver. And they gave him way more, uh, creative freedom on, on his guns. He'll sign a lot of his stuff. A lot of his great guns are signed. Um, and a lot of them are hidden signatures. So it's, it's really neat. You know, you think of that as like the ultimate, the ultimate artistry when you're

• 21:26Speaker 05

  chiseling steel. I mean, there's no such thing as a mistake and you think back then it's, this is pre-electricity. You know, you're doing stuff in modern, and I mean, it's natural light and, and candlelight. This isn't, there's, there's no technology. It's very, very basic and simple. So I don't, you know, modern engravers don't have what it, what they, what these guys did.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  That's incredible. Well, Kevin, um, thank you so much for your time and for sharing those, uh, guns with us here. And, uh, good luck this weekend. We'll be curious to see, uh, what those end up selling for.

• 21:58Speaker 05

  Absolutely. Pleasure. Thanks for having me.

• 22:00Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Boy, my gun budget is lacking. Oh, boy.

• 22:05Speaker 03

  Do you own any historic guns?

• 22:08Speaker 02

  None at all.

• 22:09Speaker 03

  Is it like on your radar? Is it like an aspirational thing to come in possession of?

• 22:14Speaker 02

  Not really. I, I mean, I, it's, I, I enjoy going to firearms museums and looking at guns and, and especially something like that where you can sort of marvel at the, the artistry, but I don't, guns for me are very utilitarian. Or, or they're just sheer novelty, but I still want to fire them, you know? You know, I don't want anything that I have to lock up and keep, uh, keep pretty. Yeah. I don't know if you'd want to shoot that Marlin. No, never. Yeah. I mean. Value would go down, I imagine. Oh, I think so. I think so. It's too beautiful.

• 22:47Speaker 02

  Um, alrighty, sorry, my, uh, I got a phone call and moved my, my browser around. So let me just pull that back up and, and get back into the swing of things here. We're live. Our next segment is a hot tip off.

• 23:00Speaker 00

  H O T T I P off. Let's all do a hot tip off. H O T T I P off. Let's all do a hot tip off.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Yes, let's. Speaking of artistry, wonderful, wonderful, Phil. Thank you. You're welcome. Hot tip off is where two listeners go head to head with competing pieces of advice. And after we hear each tip, we'll declare which one is hotter. If you have a hot tip, take a minute, one minute video on your phone and email it to radio at the meat eater.com with the subject line hot tip off. This week we have Austin Rhines versus Joshua Ross and they are competing for a $100 meat eater store gift card. You can get a pile of killer meat eater shirts, hats and hoodies with a hundred dollars.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  And a little birdie told me that select logo wear will be BOGO next week or buy one, get one. OMG. That's huge news, gang. Huge news. Phil, take it away.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Joshua Ross.

• 24:14Speaker 06

  Hey, I'm Joshua Ross from upstate New York and this is my hot tip. If you're just getting into water foul or you're stretched a little thin, you can maximize your floater spread, turn them into some land decoys, under 30 bucks with some dollar store paper towel holders and a couple of cans of rustolium. All you do is start with this, bend it down into this shape, spray paint it to match your decoys, maybe add some orange for some feet. Go ahead, slide it on to the keel. Yes.

• 24:44Speaker 06

  Stick it in the gravel, sand, embankment, and then boom. You turn your floaters into some land decoys, some field decoys, and you can put some in the water or leave some up on the shore. This is what it should look like. Tant, orange, orange feet. That's my hot tip.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  Love it. My God.

• 25:11Speaker 07

  Hey Meteor Crew, this is Austin from Arkansas and I've got a hot tip for y'all. I recently moved from Oklahoma back to Arkansas and I had a little bit of an issue. I got my shoulder mounts and my deadheads and my European mounts and I didn't want them to get damaged in the moving process, so I came up with an idea.

• 25:31Speaker 07

  Go down to your local Walmart and get you some of those $5 pool noodles real cheap. And I don't know about the size bucks that y'all are killing, but for me, the ones I'm killing are, uh, you can get about one pool noodle for every two deer. And I got a whole pile over here that I'm gonna get started hanging up on the walls and decorating. That's my hot tip. Hope y'all like it. Y'all have a good one.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  Oh my god, I love, I love that guy.

• 25:58Speaker 04

  I can feel the burn from both those hot tips.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 03

  Two of the hottest tips we've ever gotten.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  Strong.

• 26:03Speaker 03

  If you are listening or watching at home, those should be aspirational videos.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  Strong submissions.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  When you send us a hot tip.

• 26:10Speaker 08

  The poll is live, by the way.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  Poll is live.

• 26:13Speaker 08

  Get in the live chat.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Hop in there, gang.

• 26:15Speaker 03

  Ask yourself, is my hot tip as hot as Josh's or Austin's when you send a hot tip? Because those were perfect.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, and just, it's so fortunate that they went head to head because this, I think, is a tough, tough decision here, tough contest.

• 26:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, what do you guys think?

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Any initial thoughts, gentlemen?

• 26:31Speaker 03

  Um, I, I like Austin's. That is creative. I've, I've never seen that. Um, but I love Joshua's. The dollar store decoy legs, uh, to turn your floaters into field decoys. Super clever, super cheap. Um, it's, it's like a problem solving thing. I'm, I'm all about Josh's. Josh's would have my vote. Big fan.

• 26:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, both very thrifty, which this day and age, gotta be thrifty. Use what you got.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  You know.

• 26:59Speaker 04

  It's tough.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I think for me, what, what might tip it towards Joshua? Is that I wish Austin had a uh had had included whatever he uses to protect the nose. That's what I was thinking. Skulls, because when I move, I'm not so much worried about the antler points. I'm worried about the nasal cavity. Mm hmm. I just had one fall off the wall. Ooh.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Uh oh, who hung it there?

• 27:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, I did.

• 27:24Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  I did, and it knocked another one off. That was fine. And uh, but but the one shattered the nose bone and I just feel like as a society, we need to come together and figure out a way to make those things bulletproof.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  That gave me shivers.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  I know.

• 27:40Speaker 03

  At uh, two Euro Mount.

• 27:42Speaker 02

  Wildest thing. We're sitting there watching television, you know, as we do every night for a few hours. And uh, and uh, just heard a noise in the other room, said, my God, what is that?

• 27:54Speaker 03

  You just assume it's dogs.

• 27:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I assume it's dogs. The dogs were all doing what they're supposed to do, which is just laying on their sides in front of us.

• 28:01Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 28:02Speaker 02

  And yeah, this, this one was hung at about six foot six on the wall and it fell down and knocked one down. That was at about five foot six.

• 28:10Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 28:11Speaker 02

  And then they hit my computer monitor.

• 28:13Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 28:14Speaker 02

  And uh, I don't know how the one survived, but yeah, it's a, it's a buck that I shot in 2016. Everybody wants to know how it fell off the wall. Drywall rip out? I think it's, I think it was the drywall anchor seemed to be loose. Yes. And so then I went and got, you know, the drywall. I'm getting so far afield.

• 28:30Speaker 03

  No, I'm into it. I put, I put so much confidence into drywall anchors.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  Same. Well, the one, the one that I moved to is the drywall anchor that's more cone shaped that has the

• 28:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, like threads.

• 28:42Speaker 02

  The threads on the outside and not just one of those that sploots out and grabs the back.

• 28:47Speaker 03

  I'm fully on the, the drywall anchor you're describing.

• 28:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  The, the threads. And I feel like those are like, I have 50 pound ones and 75 pound ones.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  No, they make some, they make some hefty ones. Yeah, 500 pound ones. That's what's holding on to my elk. But I'm gonna go double check those screws. Yeah, yeah. And it's a wall. I've got like nine different bucks. I'll hang on the same wall. And now it makes me want to take them all down and replace all the drywall anchors.

• 29:11Speaker 03

  All right, I'm voting Josh, the Dollar Store, Dollar Store Decoy Legs. Corey, you're voting.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  I like the pool noodles.

• 29:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 29:19Speaker 02

  I like the decoy legs. And I just, I think like anytime you can buy something real cheap.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  And it just Yeah. Adds to your, your experience in the field. Like that's a Pool noodles.

• 29:31Speaker 08

  Well, with 61% of the vote, the winner.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Oh, I forgot that we weren't important.

• 29:35Speaker 08

  No. Is Joshua Ross with the Dollar Store Deco legs.

• 29:41Speaker 03

  Hunter Dollar.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  I will say, if we're just going off vibes, Austin would have had my vote. I like that guy's, I like that guy's energy.

• 29:50Speaker 03

  Randall is encouraging you to send another hot tip off, Austin, uh, because your aura alone might just get you to win one of those.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and if that's, you know, I just wonder what else you got in the, in the hopper. What else you got in the quiver there?

• 30:03Speaker 08

  You have a lot of people yelling at you to just hit a stud when you're hanging and not use drywall anchors. Well, sometimes they're not.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Well, not if you're doing a spread.

• 30:10Speaker 08

  That's true.

• 30:11Speaker 02

  This wall is incredible. It's just, it's, it's artistically, they're scattered across the wall. Um, so I just think you're wrong.

• 30:19Speaker 03

  He doesn't have enough studs in his house for all these.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  You got too many studs. Not enough of the, the other kind.

• 30:26Speaker 04

  Josh, if you're watching, I'll email you that gift card. Be on the lookout for that.

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• 33:24Steven Rinella?

  Now it's time for some listener feedback. Phil, what do we got going on in the chat today?

• 33:28Speaker 08

  Well, please shoot some more questions my way in the live chat. And we'll do this again at the end of the show. Nate says, asks if the MeatEater crew were in the Hunger Games, who would win? Cal?

• 33:43Speaker 08

  I think I might be with you.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Can you win by not? I don't know how the rules work.

• 33:49Speaker 03

  Well, I, I, PETA famously just like camouflaged himself and then laid next to a stump.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  That's what I picture.

• 33:55Speaker 08

  Oh, yeah.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  That's what I picture Cal doing.

• 33:56Speaker 08

  He was really good at camouflaging himself because he was a pastry chef and decorated cakes. That is true lore in the Hunger Games.

• 34:05Speaker 02

  Whoa, I didn't realize that. Yeah, I was thinking if you had to score points by killing people, uh, Cal might not be it. But I also thought Cal would be really good because he would just refuse to participate.

• 34:16Speaker 03

  Hmm, yeah.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  And he would just kind of sit on the sideline.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  He could go to the edge of the map, but then they, the overlords would like send wasps at him.

• 34:24Speaker 08

  That's right.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  And drop, like hit him with lightning or something.

• 34:27Speaker 08

  Philip Seymour Hoffman would move the map around.

• 34:30Speaker 03

  I'd give Cal a vote and he'd be very good at being uncomfortable in the Hunger Games experience.

• 34:34Speaker 02

  And Steve, I think if, if you had to just go on who might kill the most people, it would probably be Steve.

• 34:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's just angry all the time.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Because he loves to flip knives around.

• 34:43Speaker 08

  He'd love an excuse.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I think he's just waiting for that green light.

• 34:47Speaker 04

  I've had the same conversation, but not Hunger Games, but the show alone, you know?

• 34:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I also think that's Cal.

• 34:54Speaker 04

  Cal.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  Cause he just wouldn't want to come back. Really, this is great. There's no phones.

• 34:59Speaker 04

  Whatever it takes to stay.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  No one's asking me to do anything.

• 35:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, no one's bugging me about, uh,

• 35:04Speaker 04

  Radio Live.

• 35:05Speaker 03

  Bringing a show and tell item to Radio Live.

• 35:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that'd be good.

• 35:08Speaker 03

  Wouldn't experience.

• 35:09Speaker 08

  Uh, Leland says, do y'all have any strong feelings on orange camo? Does it work? Not work? Is it a bad compromise?

• 35:16Speaker 04

  Hmm. Orange camo?

• 35:18Speaker 03

  Um, I, I'm not passionate about this. If I was in a, a state where I was archery hunting during a gun season, where it was required as an archery hunter that I had to wear camo, um, which I think is, is Illinois or Missouri, one of those states, um, I, I would be like, okay, I will wear orange camo. Outside of that, if you are gun hunting, if, if you are killing an animal that is further than 20 yards away from you, uh, I'm, I'm not sold on needing to wear orange camo.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  Hmm, good point.

• 35:46Speaker 03

  I like how it looks though.

• 35:48Speaker 02

  It does look cool.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  It looks cool. It looks like, uh, you know, you got that item from your dad who wore it in the eighties.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  I also like the, uh, I used to have a, an orange vest, I think when I moved out to Montana, that had like sort of the black tree bark print on it.

• 36:02Speaker 04

  Yes, that's what I think.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  That looked tough. That looked tough. But yeah, I'm, I'm more of just an orange mesh and function guy.

• 36:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  You know, in Montana here.

• 36:11Speaker 04

  You're so broken up anyway, at least backpack straps, binocular harness, I don't know.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  All my, all my fixins.

• 36:17Speaker 04

  Blood stains from last year.

• 36:20Speaker 08

  Nate says, Spencer, how long till the next wives and girlfriends trivia episode? My wife loves them and wants more. Definitely some of the best episodes.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  Uh, I was just checking with my wife this week about dates that would work with her. Now I have to reach out to the other wives. Um, but I will try to do one this year. It's our most viewed trivia episode in the history of YouTube. Um, so if we need to like juice the numbers, um, we'll just get all the, the wives and girlfriends in here. Uh, because folks want to run over to YouTube and, and watch them play trivia. So we will do it again, Nate.

• 36:50Speaker 02

  Excellent. Our household looks forward to that. What else we got, Phil?

• 36:54Speaker 08

  Mogors says, uh, hi, Steve hunted in Africa, Yanni in Lithuania. I would say, was he in Lithuania?

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Latvia.

• 37:02Speaker 08

  Latvia. Uh, do you have any?

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Baltic states.

• 37:05Speaker 08

  Similar dreams or plans outside of the United States for hunting in the future?

• 37:10Speaker 04

  Always wanted to kill a Siberian tiger. I don't know if that's legal though.

• 37:15Speaker 02

  You're not taking this question very seriously.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  Uh, I want to hunt Canada real bad. I want to hunt Alberta or Saskatchewan for a big old whitetail buck.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 37:23Speaker 03

  Um, their laws make it hard to do that as a, uh, DIY hunter from the United States. You have to have a guide. Their guide regulations are, are fairly, um, stringent about like what your relationship with the guide can be as far as like if they drop you off. If they are within eyesight of you, if they like pick the location where you're sitting. So while I feel like I have some connections to go hunting Canada at some point, it, it wouldn't be, uh, with a guide in a traditional sense. And so I just don't want to even mess with it as, as a dude who prefers to just like go do a DIY thing. But if I could kill a big old whitetail buck in Saskatchewan or Alberta, um, that would satisfy all my foreign hunting dreams.

• 38:08Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  This is a dream, not a plan, because it won't happen. Um, but I think if I had, if I were given the option of one international hunt, it would probably be an IBEX in Central Asia.

• 38:20Speaker 04

  Ooh, there you go.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  Just in those giant. Scary big mountains.

• 38:24Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  That just looks like a super cool experience and, and obviously like you do it with a network of local guides and get to eat weird stuff and drink weird stuff and have a weird time.

• 38:34Speaker 03

  All those guys are expert falconry folks, it seems like.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it'd be cool. Um, Africa also would be very cool. Uh, we did, I got to go hunting in Old Mexico.

• 38:46Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 38:46Speaker 03

  Oh, international hunter.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  Guess I am an international hunter, straightening the necktie on my T-shirt.

• 38:52Speaker 04

  That does look like a lot of fun.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  Thank you, Mogur, for a great question.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  Uh, one more, I, I have, uh, what I have, have deemed to be the whitetail time zone slam. Um, just like the, the traditional time zones, but there's one way, way east. Um, was it, is it Nova Scotia? That has, it's in its own.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  Would it be maritime?

• 39:11Speaker 03

  I think it's maritime. Um, so if I wanted to like, you know, there's like the, the grand slam of turkeys and then like the super slam or whatever the, the tiered system is there. If I want to go to the next tier of the whitetail time zone slam, I need to get to Nova Scotia at some point or whatever is in that furthest eastern time zone.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  I love that for you.

• 39:32Speaker 03

  Someday.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Someday.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  Is that it for listener feedback, Phil? Should we move on?

• 39:38Speaker 08

  Uh, yeah, let's go ahead and move on. We can hit some more at the end of the show.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  Sure, there's some other good ones.

• 39:41Speaker 08

  Yeah, I got, I got a couple. So there was one that, oh, well, I'll just go ahead and bring it up now because you guys might plead the fifth on it. But this was for Corey. This was also from Nate. He said, what's the coldest tip anyone's ever submitted? I don't know if one stands out to you. It was like, wow, this is, this is rough, but also if you don't want to hurt people's feelings, we're a very positive show.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  No, you should name them.

• 39:59Speaker 04

  Oh, man. There, yeah, there's a few that I certainly don't finish watching because it's like, this is either way too, you know, out of reach, way too common, way too whatever. I don't think there's any cold ones because everybody's brings the enthusiasm. If you have the time to film and send us an email, they're all warm enough.

• 40:18Speaker 02

  Everybody's got a trick or two up their sleeve.

• 40:20Speaker 04

  Keep them coming because it's kind of dry out there. I.

• 40:23Speaker 08

  Yeah, get those hot tips in.

• 40:24Speaker 04

  I wish I had an answer for you, but nothing, nothing jumps out that's ice cold.

• 40:28Speaker 08

  Yeah, because otherwise we have to ask Giannis and then he sends something that's, I mean, pretty cold, to be honest.

• 40:33Speaker 03

  I've, I've seen some of the hot tip submissions. I would say the coldest ones are ones that come in and I hear it and I'm like, I know you heard that on the Meat Eater Podcast. That thing that you're saying is a hot tip you heard from Steve.

• 40:47Speaker 02

  Put your binoculars on a tripod.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. So that, that was probably the coldest tips that we get.

• 40:53Speaker 02

  Another great question. Geez. Well, our next segment is Meat Eater Movie Club. This week we're.

• 41:02Speaker 04

  Pause for sound.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  I put the, I put the pause for sound in the wrong place.

• 41:14Speaker 04

  We're live.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  This week, we're reviewing the 1997 American adventure comedy film directed by William Dear, written by David Michael Uyghur and starring Jonathan Taylor Thomas, Devon Sawa, and Scott Bairstow. See, I think the sound would go better there.

• 41:30Speaker 08

  Well, you also didn't name the movie yet.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  Wild America. Thanks for putting that together, Corey.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  All right.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  This is the film, the cover of the film, the poster.

• 41:43Speaker 03

  So serious.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  Says, "Take a ride on the wild side," and it has our young heroes.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  "Child actors don't get more coyly camera-wise than Jonathan Taylor Thomas, the 15-year-old star and narrator of Wild America, a tepid family adventure film whose grizzly bears appear only slightly more threatening than giant stuffed animals. As Marshall Stoffer, the youngest of three brothers growing up in Fort Smith, Arkansas in 1967, Thomas looks like a baby Brad Pitt and acts as though he's been born and brought up on the MGM lot of the 1930s, then whisks 60 years into the future with his Shirley Temple meets Mickey Rooney mannerisms intact. All three lead actors in the film have the kind of delicate looks that make Tiger Beat readers go hummina, hummina, and their cute foxxiness

• 42:33Speaker 02

  will have, will have to be enough to drum up interest in this movie." Those very words were published in the New York Times on July 2nd, 1997, except for the second sentence, the third, I should say, the one that mentions Tiger Beat. That's from a syndicated piece published in the St. Paul Pioneer Press the same day. I included those words here only because I thought they would be funny to pretend that they were my own.

• 42:57Speaker 02

  Fooled me. That fell flat. Geez. I liked it. Hey. Uh, the premise of the film is fairly straightforward. Three brothers, whose father has spent a lifetime lying to one of them about his ability to fly an airplane, decide to drive across the country in search of a cave full of hibernating bears. They do this, as best I can tell, in the middle of the summer. The oldest, Marty, is a maniacal bully, dead set on making wildlife films so he doesn't have to suffer the indignity of inheriting the family carbureator cleaning business. The middle brother, whose name I do not recall, serves no real purpose. The youngest, played by Jonathan Taylor Thomas, I think was named Marshall. Yes. Their misadventures along the journey, most of which I'll admit from this review, are partially explained by how bad their map is. We only get a glimpse of it once,

• 43:42Speaker 02

  but it's a bad map, although it's hard to explain why it's so bad without a visual aid. At some point, a strangely proportioned moose carries Marshall into a river. The brothers encountering, the brothers encounter Danny Glover, who makes an uncredited appearance wearing antlers on his head. He tells them to go look for a disfigured woman, whose dead fiance was eaten in the bear cave. After the mean brother breaks the boring brother's leg as they take a tumble in the snow, and then that brother immediately forgives the other while still lying there in the snow with a broken leg, they then see a woman in the graveyard, and the youngest brother impressively remembers the disfigured woman's name, as well as that of her dead boyfriend, Judd, although she only refers to him curiously

• 44:23Speaker 02

  as my Judd. And he, he also remembers the date of his death, or was it his birthday, which also was the day they were going to get married, which stuck out to me as one of the stranger little details in this film. Anyway, they follow the tracks of the woman's horse to the bear cave, which is oddly close to her home. They go in, the bears wake up, and there's a lot happening all at once. Then the brothers sing about Mountain Dew to put the bears back to sleep when bats start shitting on them. The resulting explosion of their flashlight stirs up the bats, who seem to form part of the cave wall, so when they fly away, there is now a hole in the cave that lets in light that wakes up the bears. Why the boys don't try the Mountain Dew jingle again is not explained to the viewer because it worked so well the first time.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  Then there's actually another hole in the cave that the youngest brother climbs out of. It would seem that this cave would not be a very good place to hibernate due to all of the holes. Then someone else falls in the snow. Here my review gets scattered. The younger brother drives home and begins pretending he was in an airplane. While pretending he was in an airplane, he crashes the car. There's still thirty minutes left in the film is the note I have here.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  Uh, I had that same feeling.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Then there's another broken leg. The grumpy old dad breaks his leg too, but the kid's broken leg is healed now. And then the dad who has a cigar in his mouth while bedridden in the hospital tells the family that a guy in Pittsburgh will give them six bits apiece. For some auto parts that represent the family's emergency savings. Jonathan Taylor Thomas fires up the plane that the dad pretended he could fly. But the kid can actually fly it and he imagines his dad in the backseat. When they make amends with one another at the hospital, the voice, the boy tells the viewer in a voiceover that he's never told anyone what happened between him and his dad that day, which is odd. Because you'd think everyone could tell that they've forgiven one another. Describing this film made me like it less.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  Overall thoughts?

• 46:20Speaker 03

  Um, I don't, I don't need to see this movie again. I don't need to recommend this to anybody. Um, I don't think I watched this when I was a kid.

• 46:27Speaker 04

  Obviously not.

• 46:28Speaker 03

  I would have been five years old when it came out. Um, I'm a little surprised that I wasn't more familiar. With anything about the movie and then I watched it and I was like, well, that's why I wasn't familiar. Nobody was like really parading this around as a great piece of cinema. From when I was a kid.

• 46:44Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. Unless you watch this as a kid, it doesn't have the same. You know.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:50Speaker 04

  Vibe.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  It's, it's, there's a lot of elements that are difficult to believe in the film.

• 46:55Speaker 03

  Can I tell you some things I liked?

• 46:56Speaker 02

  I'd love to. That's next in my prompt here.

• 46:59Speaker 03

  Uh, uh, they had some real ass animals in the movie. Sometimes, um, which was like.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  Here and there.

• 47:05Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's like a hard thing to do is, is have, uh, like the owl initially. I was like, oh, that's a real.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Leona.

• 47:10Speaker 03

  That's kind of fun.

• 47:11Speaker 04

  Yeah. Landing on Jonathan Taylor Thomas's arm without a glove on.

• 47:15Speaker 03

  That's right. And then it. Shows up in uh in Valley of the Gods of Arizona.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:19Speaker 03

  Later on.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Oddly.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  I I like that the boys were filming Jackass thirty years before.

• 47:26Speaker 03

  I was like that that should be the movie.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  My thought my thought at that moment was. God, it was so nice when like kids did this stuff and they couldn't put it on the internet, so it didn't become their entire personality.

• 47:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, like the M eighties in the pool.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 47:39Speaker 03

  Uh, some good music. I I like, you know, they had Suzie Q by CCR. They had a magic carpet ride. I I just enjoyed. The music they served me. Um, and then I enjoyed the scene where the the two older brothers are peeing upstream. And John and the Taylor Thomas is filling his canteen downstream.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 47:56Speaker 03

  I I enjoyed that.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  And then he and then he gave it to them to drink.

• 48:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 48:00Speaker 02

  And it was unclear, I thought, uh, whether or not he was in on the prank.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, I felt the same way.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  I don't think they played that up enough.

• 48:08Speaker 03

  No, it seemed like he was he was sort of cheeky about it.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:11Speaker 03

  He did know.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:12Speaker 03

  I liked that. That's the end of the list of the things I liked.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Corey?

• 48:16Speaker 04

  This brought back some serious nostalgia.

• 48:18Speaker 03

  You seen this?

• 48:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, it came out when in ninety seven, so I would have been nine. Probably didn't watch it right away, but watched it, you know, fairly quickly. And I watched it with my seven year old boy last night.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Uh, he loved it.

• 48:31Speaker 04

  And he loved it. There was scenes where I'm just like, are you kidding me? Like when JTT gets picked up by the moose and it's very apparent that it's two dudes.

• 48:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:39Speaker 03

  What was it a horse?

• 48:42Speaker 02

  There were two guys. There were two guys just sort of skipping, wearing a moose suit. There's once, there's one shot in particular where it's very clearly just two guys in a brown bag. With holding a moose head in front of them.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I was watching him. I looked over and looked at my son, Marshall, which was fun, too.

• 48:58Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. The bullied younger brother.

• 49:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, he loved hearing his name, yelled a lot, and he's loving it. So and I'm like rolling my eyes and he's just like in heaven watching this. And then when it came to the the Cave of a Thousand Bears or Ten Bears or whatever ended up being. Same thing, super cheesy. I don't know why or who came up with the idea to bring in the fake bear costumes when they had live bears.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a weird mixture of robots.

• 49:24Speaker 03

  Taxidermy, yeah, animatronics, real bears.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  It it reminded me of this time.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  CGI.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  I went to a Chuck E. Cheese as an adult.

• 49:32Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  And um. And I was, it was horrifying.

• 49:36Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 49:37Speaker 02

  I was like, how's this even, how can a kid even withstand this overwhelming sensation of just being surrounded by robots popping out of the wall? But that's what it brought me back to.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:48Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, but again, his imagination was able to follow and track the whole thing and it was much more fun to watch as a kid, no doubt.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think, I think if I were to, uh, have to show a movie to a child, this is not a bad one to show. Like, there's nothing, there's nothing horrible about it. It's just like a series of sort of bizarre scenarios involving wildlife caught on film.

• 50:14Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 50:14Speaker 02

  And, um, there's nothing offensive. It's, it's just very campy. It reminded me of The Sandlot.

• 50:20Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  In terms of the vibes.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 50:23Speaker 02

  Uh, just, just, but I, I think for me, one of the things I liked the best is it just hearkens back to the golden age of older brothers bullying younger brothers. And no one seeming to have any, like they're tying him to a chair and then hoisting him into a tree and then cutting the rope and throwing fireworks on him. And it's just, it goes, it's unremarkable to everyone where they're dragging him around behind the truck. Uh, although the, the two.

• 50:50Speaker 03

  College girls.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  College girls didn't like that. Yeah.

• 50:53Speaker 04

  No, they weren't impressed.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  Um, and Danny Glover, I think was probably my favorite part, but like they shot a deer in the beginning of the movie. I mean, like.

• 51:03Speaker 03

  With a crossbow.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  I, I was not.

• 51:04Speaker 03

  In the summer.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, in the summer.

• 51:06Speaker 03

  The college girls were home for a Christmas or a summer break.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Right.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  And then the, the brothers declared, they say, you can't hunt with us DC if you're gonna do it the wrong way or something like that.

• 51:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and they're reading Outdoor Life. Like, I think there were, it, it was more true to like hunting and fishing nostalgia than I would have, would have guessed. You know, like it was, it wouldn't be made today in that same way.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  Like in the nineties, it was still sort of like, this is just traditional Americana.

• 51:35Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 51:37Speaker 02

  So I don't know, I think, uh, uh, I, there's a lot of things I found wrong with it, but ultimately like, it's a harmless piece of cinema that if you have kids that like the outdoors, I think it'd work.

• 51:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's not for us.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:50Speaker 03

  It's not, it's not for us to be like, well, they got every single wildlife scene wrong in this movie.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:56Speaker 03

  They were in Valley of the Gods of Arizona and they encountered like an Asiatic deer who's getting hunted by a big gray wolf.

• 52:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, roe deer.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  And then F4 Phantoms.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  And I, it was so funny because when the planes came in, I write down on my notepad, F4 Phantoms, and then Jonathan Taylor Thomas, like two seconds later goes, F4 Phantoms.

• 52:18Speaker 03

  Wow, you felt good there.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  Oh, I mean, there was no doubt in my mind. It's such a distinctive, uh, such a distinctive silhouette of an airplane.

• 52:28Speaker 03

  Phil, I had slacked you a picture. Could you pull that up? Uh, when we were talking about the scene of the bears, um, I had to stop it in this one. I had to stop it because of the clearly like animatronic bear, but then also you see a cameraman or like a boom mic. You see someone who's not supposed to be in the shot.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:46Speaker 03

  Holding something off to the side.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  That was a real treat to, to watch that.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  Wild.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  That, they could have done without that. They were doing great with the bear.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  Like the Sandlot sort of Stand By Me, it's also an age when like child actors are just sort of, there's no real depth to their performance.

• 53:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  And the brothers are just like snapping at each other.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 53:07Speaker 02

  And, and my favorite part was he goes, goes, I'm sorry, I forgive you. I know it was an accident.

• 53:15Speaker 04

  After he breaks a leg. He does a great job, job tromping through the snow with that broken leg.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. And then the cast is gone.

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Also, God, the crutches were so small. Yes, the doctor gives him the crutches and they come up to his waist and he's like, have you used crutches before? And I was like, have you given crutches to a patient before? Because these are clearly the wrong size.

• 53:34Speaker 03

  Uh-huh. Uh, then, and the bear scene, that was like climax one of four. The movie had like four climaxes.

• 53:42Speaker 02

  The alligator chase, the, the, the planes bombing them, the horse stampede.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  And then the weird scene with the disfigured woman where she pulls out like a portrait that was taken in the 90s at like a mall photo studio, even though this is taking place in 1967, which also bothered me because Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild was not always still to fall in here.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  Oh snap.

• 54:04Speaker 03

  I did also personally enjoy seeing DC in the movie, the redhead character, because he was in two episodes of Deadwood as the hotel clerk, and he becomes a very pivotal part of the story because he craps his pants because he was drunk and he goes down to the creek to wash the crap out of his pants. And while he's there, he finds another pair of his pants that he theorizes he'd left there from a past drunk incident where he also crapped his pants and went to the creek to wash them out. And in one of his soiled breeches, he finds the last letter that Wild Bill Hickok ever wrote, which sort of like propels us into this new series of characters and bad guys. So

• 54:47Speaker 03

  that's, that's a role that DC plays in my favorite show ever, Deadwood.

• 54:52Speaker 02

  I, I just like that there's sort of a trope, thinking of the Christmas, A Christmas Story, there's this trope of a bully who's, who's actually just sort of incompetent, but he's just a bully and it's a guy with red hair.

• 55:08Speaker 03

  Yes, I bet that, that hits hard.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, God, maybe I'm not a unique individual. Clearly I had a past life somewhere.

• 55:17Speaker 03

  You were destined to be a bully.

• 55:19Speaker 02

  I know. I know. But like Scott Farkas and that guy, I feel like came out of the same gene pool.

• 55:26Speaker 04

  I could feel after this, my son and I'll probably go down the Wild America Marty Stouffer rabbit hole.

• 55:32Speaker 03

  Oh yeah. Oh yeah. During the credits, when they play actual footage from what I assume is, is Marty's documentary work, it's phenomenal. It was so charming. I loved that.

• 55:42Speaker 02

  And he's in the film somewhere, I think.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  I was watching for that, but I didn't, I never saw him and I was like, oh, there's Marty.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  So I, I deleted this line, or I shouldn't say I deleted, I just didn't read it. Said, if you like The Sandlot, if you like Forrest Gump, if you like Wild Animals or Danny Glover, you'll enjoy this lighthearted romp. If you like Marty Stouffer, you probably won't like this film because it makes him seem like a really bad guy. Yes. I've never like seen of story that's like the true story of of this beloved figure. Yeah. And the guy who's playing him is just sort of like the asshole.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  Eh, he's the older brother. Gotta be tough.

• 56:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, but he's not. I don't feel like he's really redeemed. Yeah.

• 56:22Speaker 03

  Or if your name is Marshall and you're seven years old.

• 56:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 56:25Speaker 03

  You'll love this movie. It might might become a little bit of your personality.

• 56:28Speaker 04

  You gotta watch out for those late nineties PG movies if, because there's a few curse words in there. Which he looked at me after every single one.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  That's good.

• 56:36Speaker 04

  But if you watch this show, you're used to that.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's good. He needs, he needs exposure.

• 56:40Speaker 04

  Oh, he gets plenty of it. He listens to Macklemore.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  Second grade, he's gonna be using profanity like a pirate. How are we doing, Phil? Should we move on to the next segment or do you need more information about Wild America?

• 56:54Speaker 08

  I think I'm satisfied.

• 56:55Speaker 03

  Phil, can you tell me like something about Jonathan Taylor Thomas? Just anything like what your memory is of him in the nineties? He he would be in like a child actor tier of like Topanga, uh, maybe Keenan.

• 57:07Speaker 08

  Oh, Jonathan Lipnicki, he was big back then. I mean, like, I mean, JTT, not because he, unlike Lipnicki, he was a heartthrob too. No offense to Lipnicki, but he had that, I mean, that whole tiger beat Wakawaka, whatever you said over there.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  Hummina, hummina.

• 57:20Speaker 08

  Hummina, hummina. The Wakawaka is Fozzie Bear.

• 57:23Speaker 03

  Haley Joel Osment, he'd be like in that tier, I feel like of of nineties child star.

• 57:27Speaker 08

  Well, I mean, yeah, I, JTT had trouble breaking out of of TV, though.

• 57:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, guys.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  Improvement. Well, Tom and Huck.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I liked Tom and Huck.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  I I just think it's, it's unconscionable that we've been talking about JTT this whole time without acknowledging the cultural masterpiece that is Home Improvement. Yeah.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  And, uh, he's joined by another three named child star, Zachary Ty Bryan.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 57:54Speaker 02

  On that show, who's the doofus with the the blonde hair.

• 57:58Speaker 04

  Let's not forget JTT was Simba.

• 58:00Speaker 03

  That's right.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  Oh, that's right, yeah. And God, he does look like a legitimate child of Brad Pitt, doesn't he? Hmm. That that that's not my thought. That's just.

• 58:09Speaker 08

  Because Devin, Devin Sawal also had big teen beat energy. I think they, like this movie, the casting was definitely, I think, purposeful in trying to get that, those thirteen year old girls.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  Devin Sawal.

• 58:21Speaker 02

  Phil, has everybody dropped out of the chat?

• 58:23Speaker 08

  Oh, no.

• 58:24Speaker 02

  We haven't lost anybody in our discussion of.

• 58:26Speaker 08

  I think, I think our viewership is actually at its peak right now.

• 58:29Speaker 02

  Oh, God. God.

• 58:31Speaker 04

  Better keep this going.

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• 1:01:19Speaker 03

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• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  That's good. Let's roll on into the top three.

• 1:01:41Speaker 08

  See, wouldn't it be cool if we just had like a light show going on?

• 1:01:43Speaker 03

  Yes, it would.

• 1:01:43Speaker 08

  Yeah.

• 1:01:44Speaker 03

  Where's that?

• 1:01:44Speaker 08

  This is why we need a new studio.

• 1:01:50Speaker 08

  Cause people who are just listening to this, they're probably like, okay, I'll sit through this stupid song for 15 seconds. But people who are watching are just watching Randall, Spencer and Corey stare at their computers.

• 1:01:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:02:00Speaker 02

  I used to do the dance thing, you know, I used to dance along and I feel like that bit has run its course. And I like to just enjoy the music.

• 1:02:07Speaker 08

  Okay, I get that.

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  I don't have any text prepared to introduce this segment, but top three is where we rank our top three of things in a certain category. Although we're doing a new spin on that today where we each got to choose our own category.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Ooh.

• 1:02:24Speaker 04

  Spin.

• 1:02:25Speaker 03

  Yes. In the past, we were all ranking from the same thing. And then Yanis and I about went to fisticuffs over a topic. And so we said, here's the solution. We're all just going to bring our own list.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  Freestyle.

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  From our own subject. That's right. Phil included. Phil is going to do one.

• 1:02:38Speaker 08

  That's right.

• 1:02:39Speaker 03

  And I asked him to really fill it up today. So I'm excited to hear whatever he has.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  And I really struggled with, with this assignment. I like to have clear orders, marching orders. So Phil, you can bring up my number one or my number three.

• 1:02:55Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. Oh, uh oh, I hope this works for Phil.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  Oh, good. This is, this is my number three and I had a hard time going back and forth.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, what's the title?

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  Well, that's, I'm getting to it. I'm getting to it. I was gonna go with my favorite fishing hats of all time. And so I started going through my list, my photos of fishing. Then I thought I could sort of combine that with the three worst photos of me holding a fish.

• 1:03:17Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  So this is a photo of me floating the Missouri River breaks in the summer of 2008. And I, I'm gonna go with the why it's a bad picture. The shirt is terrible. It's a terrible fishing shirt. I got it at Bass Pro Shops. I think I wore it on that trip and you know, it's filled with clay, gumbo, mud. Uh, my eyes are closed, which also makes it a bad picture.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  On the, on the good side, I love that hat. It's a Bass Pro Shops camo hat in a mossy oak pattern of some sort.

• 1:03:55Speaker 03

  Walking billboard for Bass Pro.

• 1:03:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:58Speaker 03

  Holding a bass.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  Cincinnati Kid, when that thing opened, oh, you couldn't get me off I-275.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  But that hat I wore, uh, for a number of summers staining decks for a company called ProClean. And so it is covered. I started, I never liked to bring the rags when I started out. I'd get the roller and the brush and never bring a wet. So I started wiping my, my deck stain with that hat. So that hat ended up weighing like three pounds.

• 1:04:25Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  It was solid. You could have taken a knife and it wouldn't go through the fabric. It was just coated with layer upon layer upon layer of deck stain.

• 1:04:32Speaker 03

  Really nice and breathable for a summer fishing day.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  It was, it was incredible. It was incredible. More of a helmet. Um, and then the final note I have on why this picture's bad is I'm just really fat in it. And it's a bad angle for my cheeks and neck. I can't tell.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  It's the pocket in that shirt that makes it look like, and you obviously have a lot of sunflower seeds.

• 1:04:54Speaker 02

  There's probably a can of grizzly wintergreen in there.

• 1:04:56Speaker 03

  Could be.

• 1:04:57Speaker 02

  But yeah, the eyes closed, stupid haircut. I couldn't grow a beard yet. I've been hiding. I've spent the rest of my life hiding from that version of me.

• 1:05:05Speaker 03

  Nice smalley though.

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, that's a great trip. Uh, we, every island we hit would, would pull the boat over and get to the tail of the island and just chuck, uh, like rattle traps and stuff and hammered smallmouth and it was a great trip.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  Randall's, um, his favorite person to bully is himself.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I mean, what's life all about other than doubting your own worth?

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  Picture number two.

• 1:05:31Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:05:31Speaker 02

  This, I couldn't get.

• 1:05:33Speaker 03

  This isn't a bad picture at all. I love this.

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  Well, there's two things about it that make it bad.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  One is that I'm making the same face as the fish. And then two, my sweatshirt looks like the fish.

• 1:05:45Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:05:46Speaker 02

  So I don't think there's nearly enough contrast in there, but this also, that hat is a Carhartt beanie. I still own it today. Um, I've probably owned it for almost 20 years. You're probably the reason Carhartt hats are back in style now. Well, probably not. That thing's so stretched out. There's not an ounce of, of elastic to it. Just pulled it over this head so many times.

• 1:06:11Speaker 02

  But I do like that photo. We were catching burbit on, uh, on, on jugs, on fixed lines, like limb lines and jugs. Jugging, eh? And, uh, got back to the lodge and made ourselves a nice little burbit dinner. I think the day before I flew out that summer.

• 1:06:26Speaker 03

  I love that photo.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  That's a good one.

• 1:06:28Speaker 03

  Lot of synergy going on there with it, making the same face as a fish, wearing the same pattern as a fish. It works.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I don't know. I just had to include it. Then the last one, Phil, if you'll, if you'll indulge me here.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  This is a good one.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  That's a real ugly fish. That's a spawned out male pink salmon. Big old dip in my lips so that my head, my face is crooked to the right side. And then the hat is offset to the left side there.

• 1:06:56Speaker 03

  What year is this?

• 1:06:57Speaker 02

  Uh, that's probably 2010, 2009. Uh, we bought those Mountain Dew hats at the Walmart in, uh, Wasilla, Alaska. One time we're driving out to go to the lodge and, um, before we got on the boat, we stopped at Walmart and we all bought matching Mountain Dew hats and wore them for a summer. So that was also a hat.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Part of my collection, but just, yeah, I mean, the face is weird. The glasses are weird. It's sort of that old style of glasses. That was more like a swim goggle. And then the hair poking out the sides of the hat. It's just a bad look all around.

• 1:07:31Speaker 03

  I like that.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  So, plus it's a gross spawned out humpy.

• 1:07:36Speaker 03

  That's a good picture.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  That's what I got.

• 1:07:37Speaker 03

  You should post that on Instagram, Randall.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  I should, I should.

• 1:07:40Speaker 03

  That would do some numbies.

• 1:07:41Speaker 02

  Oh, I've got, I showed Corey a little bit of the archive. I've got some, I've got some weird ones. Yeah, bad fishing pictures.

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Probably really tough to pick the top five.

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:49Speaker 08

  Yeah, between Randall's drummies and Spencer's numbies, I'm having a really hard time hanging.

• 1:07:54Speaker 02

  And Randall's awards, the Randys. The Randys, yep.

• 1:07:58Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  Well, that, that concludes my top three, top three fishing hats I've owned slash top three worst pictures I've taken with a fish.

• 1:08:06Speaker 03

  Very good.

• 1:08:07Speaker 04

  Who's next, Randall?

• 1:08:09Speaker 08

  Corey's next.

• 1:08:09Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. Well, this is not going to be nearly as fun, but I'm proud of these. This is my top three favorite hunting camp meals.

• 1:08:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:08:18Speaker 04

  That I enjoy making for a group of buddies. If I'm going hunting solo, I do, I'll eat whatever freeze dried meals, but if I got a group of buddies, day four, day five into a hunt, I like to make something big and scrumptious, you know? Let's see, so my number three, I hope I have this in the right order, would be campfire nachos.

• 1:08:37Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  And this photo, if you're watching, is some pulled bear meat. I believe it came off the rear shank uh, of a black bear I killed a couple of years ago.

• 1:08:47Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  This cooked in a Dutch oven, you just throw everything in, all your nacho toppings, uh, throw the lid on, put some coals on top of it. You could do it on the stove top too, but it works, it's a lot more fun over a fire. Let the cheese melt, let the meat reheat, and then you can go on top with your pickled jalapenos, your salsas, your tomatoes, what have you. Very easy. It's usually a crowd pleaser. You just stick that in between your chairs and just go.

• 1:09:14Speaker 02

  Oh, man, that, that is a good one.

• 1:09:16Speaker 03

  Pretty photo. Martha Stewart would put that on her cover.

• 1:09:19Speaker 04

  Well, that's why I took the picture.

• 1:09:20Speaker 03

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:09:21Speaker 04

  Um, okay, that was number three. Number two.

• 1:09:25Speaker 04

  I've copied Jean Paul Bourgeois' duck and and dewy pasta laya pasta yaya pasta laya recipe, which you can find on the Meat Eater website, actually. I butchered the name, so sorry, Jean Paul. But I don't duck hunt, so I use multiple different types of red meats in this one. I've made it years in the past. If you're watching, here's a photo of me whipping this up for Yanis and another friend of ours, Mike, on a archery elk hunt a couple of years ago. It's very hearty, extremely easy to make. I'm using the same Dutch oven, actually. It's a GSI aluminum Dutch oven. It's just with me anywhere I go. It's usually just in the back of my truck.

• 1:10:07Speaker 04

  But it's got noodles, it's got multiple types of meat, and dewy sausage and whatever, pulled meat. His recipe calls for duck. But again, I've done bear, I think I've done mule deer. It's a pulled meat variety. You cook all that down with some mushrooms, some onions, some garlic, and then you add a little base of some sort.

• 1:10:28Speaker 04

  Bullion cube and water if you have to. How does this picture relate to it? Thank you for bringing that up, because after that meal, this is the next day. I called this bull in for Yanni, whether he wants to admit it or not, and he shot this thing at 45 yards.

• 1:10:43Speaker 03

  You fed him and you called in his bull. That's basically your elk, Corey.

• 1:10:47Speaker 04

  Ooh, yeah, I don't know about that, but this is, that was a memorable hunt, and we had some full bellies. That was probably at 7:00 PM, and I bet we were still Wow. well-fed and comfortable at that point the next day. But, I mean, make that pasta yah pasta laya. I should have looked this up, how you say it. And look what can happen to you. Good vibes. Yeah, good vibes from that star. That was number two. Number one is walking tacos.

• 1:11:12Speaker 03

  Ooh, did you take this photo?

• 1:11:14Speaker 04

  No, it is not my photo. I stole it off of Google Images. Hopefully, they're not watching. But I wish I would have taken this, the photo, because last weekend, my wife and I and our neighbor couple took out our families on a camp float on the Yellowstone, and this was our meal that we made. It's so easy. We actually heated up some ground elk burger and threw it in with, we had a plethora of choice chips for the kids to choose from, and then we had all the toppings laid out. So if you have picky eaters, if you have you know, folks who don't want lettuce, don't want a certain type of chips, whatever, you can just make it on your own, and it's your own little bag of Goodness, you just make sure you bring some, a fork with you. Cause it's, it's very simple. Takes up some space.

• 1:11:58Speaker 02

  Do you use the nacho cheesers? Or do you like to vary your, your, uh, base?

• 1:12:03Speaker 04

  I like the Cool Ranch.

• 1:12:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, that's the only civilized Dorito out there.

• 1:12:07Speaker 04

  I believe the original would be Fritos, but, um,

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

  You can go wild. You gotta go to the gas stations to get the like, medium sized bag of chips. Not the big bags, not the fun sized bags.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  That was, I had a couple critiques of your list there. Um, and the, one of the ones was that the walking nachos wouldn't be good unless you had a giant bag of chips.

• 1:12:28Speaker 04

  The medium bag.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:30Speaker 04

  From the gas station.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:31Speaker 03

  Nobody in a group would be disappointed to see, uh, Corey making walking tacos.

• 1:12:35Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:12:36Speaker 03

  In camp.

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Geez.

• 1:12:37Speaker 04

  Pretty scrumptious.

• 1:12:37Speaker 03

  It's good number one.

• 1:12:39Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:12:40Speaker 08

  Alright, it's my turn, I guess?

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's do it.

• 1:12:43Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 1:12:43Speaker 02

  This is a well organized segment.

• 1:12:45Speaker 04

  I'm gonna turn my computer off.

• 1:12:46Speaker 08

  It's good. So, uh, my top three are the top three video game characters that would taste good after a few hours on the smoker.

• 1:12:52Speaker 02

  Alright, perfect.

• 1:12:55Speaker 08

  Uh, so.

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  It's a beautiful, a beautiful, uh.

• 1:12:58Speaker 08

  So first off, we have the Rat King from The Last of Us Part Two. There are some pros and cons to these. I'm not gonna say these would all be perfect, but, um, the pros of the, uh, if, for those who are listening and don't know, the Rat King is like a big kind of squishy zombie monster made up of a bunch of different cordyceps monsters that were, you know, infected by this brain virus that turned them all into crazy mushroom people. And then those came together to make this abomination. Pros, would feed a whole family for months.

• 1:13:24Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:13:25Speaker 08

  You know, basically like harvesting a moose, um, but probably more meat.

• 1:13:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, look at all the shanks.

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  Looks like there's a lot of bone in it too, though, with all of the limbs.

• 1:13:34Speaker 08

  Uh, yeah, I mean, we'd be diving into uncharted territory here. We'd be doing a lot of, you know, experimenting exploration. I'm not, I'm not sure. You see these kind of like fat pockets, these pustules there?

• 1:13:45Speaker 04

  Cut around that.

• 1:13:46Speaker 08

  Um, you know, still, a lot of food. Uh, another pro already has a nice char on it after dispatching it with a flamethrower. So you're already just, you're kind of halfway there.

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 1:13:56Speaker 08

  Uh, con, you may contract a cordyceps brain infection, which, you know, is not ideal. Uh, but you know, there are risks with everything. So maybe just smoke it to what 170?

• 1:14:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was gonna say, you just get that temp up, you're probably okay.

• 1:14:09Speaker 08

  You're probably fine.

• 1:14:10Speaker 03

  My familiarity with the Rat King is Dennis Duffy telling Liz Lemon on 30 Rock, uh, about the Rat King and how it's all the rats in the subway system that have fused together to create the Rat King.

• 1:14:21Speaker 02

  Ooh, spooky.

• 1:14:22Speaker 08

  Uh, this is kind of a deep cut. Uh, the next one is gonna be the orphan of Koss from Bloodborne.

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 1:14:27Speaker 08

  Um, as we all know, let's say it together, the orphan of Koss is the stillborn child of an eldritch god that was worshipped by fishermen. Sorry. Okay, now, this one might be confusing you if you're watching at home because you can see that the actual humanoid figure here is, doesn't look too appetizing, mostly skin and bones, but, uh, he famously uses, uh, a placenta, his placenta as his weapon. You can see him holding it right here. Yes. I think, uh, I would want to put that placenta on the smoker.

• 1:14:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:14:57Speaker 08

  Yeah. Um, pros, so he is a stillborn child of an eldritch god. Who knows what kind of sort of supernatural cosmic eldritch powers you might inherit by consuming his placenta.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:15:09Speaker 08

  But, you know, as we know from Yanis, the placenta is filled with nutrients like iron and B12. And also is rumored, not rumored, you know, it's, it's, there's, I mean, there's no evidence. We'll call it a rumor that it helps the mother recover after birth, when you consume the placenta.

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:15:24Speaker 08

  Um, cons, you could be trapped in a nightmare plane of existence, um, from consuming the blood of a god offspring.

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  Totally different direction than I thought.

• 1:15:32Speaker 08

  Um, and number, that's number two. Number one is Yoshi.

• 1:15:36Speaker 02

  Uh, I was about to make the joke. I was about to make this very joke, Phil. I'm glad you got us back here.

• 1:15:42Speaker 08

  Yoshi, of course, the, uh, the dinosaur mount from the Super Mario franchise. Pros of eating Yoshi. Uh, he eats a clean diet of sweet apples. That's the only thing he eats.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Huh.

• 1:15:51Speaker 08

  I'm, I'm, I, you know, I don't know how that would affect the meat, you know, tenderness, flavor, mouth feel, but how about, like, how about? Animals that are fed like a clean vegetarian diet, right? You know, that's probably what you want.

• 1:16:04Speaker 03

  A bear hunter like Corey would tell you that a bear who's been eating berries is far superior to a bear that's been eating rotten fish.

• 1:16:10Speaker 08

  That's right.

• 1:16:11Speaker 04

  I do wonder with all the Goombas and the Koopa Troopas that he eats and regurgitates, if that would mess with anything.

• 1:16:17Speaker 08

  No, he's not actually processing.

• 1:16:18Speaker 04

  Right. You wonder if that would.

• 1:16:20Speaker 08

  He kind of spits them out. Sometimes they spits them out into an egg. I don't know how that works.

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, Phil, I thought you were gonna go with like Sonic the Hedgehog and.

• 1:16:27Speaker 08

  Well, see, there's some cheats here because there are some, there are some Pokemon that just are food. Like, there's a Pokemon that's just an apple pie with legs. And I, you know, that's kind of cheating. I'm not gonna do that.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  What's the name of the, the, is it Blanca, the character from Street Fighter?

• 1:16:42Speaker 08

  Oh, yeah, the big, the big dude.

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  That'd be a good one, too.

• 1:16:44Speaker 03

  What are the cons, Phil, of eating Yoshi?

• 1:16:46Speaker 08

  There are no cons.

• 1:16:47Speaker 03

  No cons. He's listed.

• 1:16:49Speaker 08

  Uh, he's, you don't have to listen to him. Just jabber on, like, whatever the.

• 1:16:55Speaker 02

  This has been a delightful mashup.

• 1:16:57Speaker 08

  I do, I do have some honorable, some honorable mentions here. Of course, the Metroid from Super Metroid.

• 1:17:02Speaker 02

  Banjo Kazooie.

• 1:17:03Speaker 08

  Both Banjo and Kazooie. And the raccoon Tom from Animal Crossing. He's a, he's a piece of shit landlord who's always trying to squeeze you for everything you're, you're working for.

• 1:17:14Speaker 03

  And he's plump. He'd have some good cuts of meat on it.

• 1:17:16Speaker 08

  Exactly. And I, you know, raccoons, Clay would be excited. If I had to the cookout.

• 1:17:22Speaker 04

  Good. Awesome. Good call.

• 1:17:24Speaker 02

  Oh, Phil, you're a real gem.

• 1:17:26Speaker 03

  That was perfect, Phil. You filled it up as much as I was hoping you would.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  I'll queue you up, Spencer, here. You're last.

• 1:17:32Speaker 03

  I'm last. Apologies in advance. I, I'm going to take this very seriously. My list is the top three state game agency logos. So, once I polled all 50, then I was like, why, I now have an obligation to myself to, to do this right and, and make a critical judgment on who has done this the best. So, please pull them up, Phil.

• 1:17:52Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:17:54Speaker 03

  Alright, number three here is Alabama.

• 1:17:57Speaker 04

  Bam.

• 1:17:57Speaker 03

  Alabama's logo is just so authentic. I'd say it's like the most authentic game agency logo. It looks like it was designed in 1989 by a guy who hunts deer and owns a bass boat. Uh, it, it looks vintage like your dad would be part of a hunting club that had this exact logo on a hat that you would like fight your brother for in the will. I would want to own a hat with that patch on it.

• 1:18:20Speaker 02

  I want a nylon windbreaker, green nylon windbreaker.

• 1:18:23Speaker 03

  Exactly. Now, it's, it's not, it's not even good design work. Like, no professional would produce this logo today, but that's also what makes it so dang cool. Uh, I, I love it. I see this logo and I'm like, yup, that's Alabama. That's what they're all about. Uh, whitetails, largemouth bass, and a patriotic bald eagle.

• 1:18:41Speaker 04

  Freedom.

• 1:18:42Speaker 03

  So Alabama is my number three, specifically the Alabama Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries Division. That's my number three.

• 1:18:49Speaker 04

  The eagle was well placed too. It looks like he's just about to snag that bass out of the air.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  That's right. Alright, number two. Number two is Alaska, the Alaska Fishing Game. Uh, Alaska's logo is really aesthetically pleasing. The color scheme of baby blue and turquoise, it, it's just super unique. It feels very Alaska to me, uh, and it has a lot going on while still being balanced. Uh, you've got a salmon, you've got a caribou, there's a large bird that looks like it's either a swan or a goose. Uh, so they've covered land, air, and water. Uh, but to me, the real star of the show are the actual stars. Uh, they have the Big Dipper and the North Star in the logo, both of which are correctly placed for how they appear in real life. Uh, and this is also a nice nod to their flag, which is just the Big Dipper and the North Star. Uh, it's not a coincidence that Alaska has one of the best state flags

• 1:19:38Speaker 03

  and one of the best game agency logos. Uh, I, I wish Montana's state flag was that cool instead of just being the seal.

• 1:19:45Speaker 02

  You know, it was created with a, uh, a competition among schoolchildren to design the new state flag.

• 1:19:51Speaker 03

  In Alaska?

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:19:52Speaker 03

  I did not know that. I, I love that little wrinkle. Uh, good for Alaska, their logo. It's, it's just perfect and their flag is awesome. If I lived in Alaska, I would fly that flag everywhere. It would, it would be, uh, a core part of my personality. It'd be on my house, it would be in my office. Um, good on Alaska, they crushed it.

• 1:20:10Speaker 04

  Nicely done.

• 1:20:11Speaker 03

  Alright, number one. If you've listened to trivia since the beginning, this will be no surprise, but it is Missouri. I've made this declaration before, and I'll say it again. Missouri has the best game agency logo in the country. I like that it's the only state with a triangle logo. It's one of two logos that has a raccoon, the other being Tennessee. It's one of seven logos that has a bass. And I would say that looks specifically like a smallmouth. In which case, it would be one of two states that has a smallmouth, the other being Indiana. And it's also the only logo with an oak leaf. I just really appreciate that Missouri is giving a nod to a raccoon and an oak tree. In fact, I think it'd be stronger if they just got rid of that bass in there. But I won't be too picky.

• 1:20:56Speaker 03

  And similar to what I liked about Alaska and Alabama, it just feels very authentic to Missouri. It works, it's the perfect logo for that state. I mean, but a triangle, a triangle, really? Well, if, if every state had a triangle, it would be different. But them being the state with a triangle logo, good on Missouri for, for having something unique. Gotcha. That's my number one. I won't, I won't, I won't, no complaint. I, I have some honorable mentions, though, that we'll get to here. Vermont, the Vermont Department of Fish and Wildlife. Vermont's logo, it feels like a family crest that English royalty would have. It's the oldest looking logo of all the state game agency logos.

• 1:21:40Speaker 03

  It seems like it should be on a suit of armor that a knight is wearing. I really like what Vermont has going on there. Then there's the Pennsylvania Game Commission. I, I love that it has what appears to be a muskrat hut in it. I love that it has their state flower, the mountain laurel that's, that's represented. But what's really satisfying is that the whitetail buck there is a, a two and a half year old eight pointer. It's not an aspirational 180 inch booner made for the cover of magazines. It's just a standard buck that has barely graduated from being a basket rack. And this is the type of deer that I just associate with the big woods of that part of the country that gets killed by a lot of folks. So I really like Pennsylvania's logo.

• 1:22:22Speaker 03

  And then the other, the other honorable mention here is the Delaware Division of Fish and Wildlife. Delaware's logo is famously weird. It's a Canada goose and what I believe is a weak fish. And, and they're positioned in such a way that it looks like the goose is carrying the weak fish. I just like how absurd that logo is and it's, it's so bad that it's good. Now sadly, that logo was replaced in 2021 by a new logo that's very sterile and forgettable. The new logo just looks like it'd be for a city parks department. It sucks. So Delaware went backwards with that logo change.

• 1:22:59Speaker 02

  It looks like an anti pollution initiative.

• 1:23:01Speaker 03

  It does.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Uh, the, my first reaction to the original one is that it looks like they started with just the fish in there. And they're like, shit, there's a lot of empty space. Can we just chuck something in there? But don't change the placement or the size of the fish, for God's sake. Just make the second thing go over it.

• 1:23:19Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. So it has a Canada goose carrying a weak fish, which, which just tickles me. So those are the top game agency logos, Missouri, Alaska, Alabama.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  That was fun. Well done. Well done. We should probably do that again. Yeah. I like that. I think the come up with your own category is a real winner. It's a real winning segment, if you will. Well, Phil, it's time we dive back into that strange, strange world that is the chat. Let's see what folks.

• 1:23:49Speaker 08

  We've come to that part of the show.

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  See what folks have had to say about this madness.

• 1:23:53Speaker 08

  Get, get some more questions in. We only have a couple right now. And I will read one of them now. Jackson says, Randall, if you could bring back a historical figure to life and go on a backwoods hunting trip with them, who would it be? And what would you hunt for?

• 1:24:08Speaker 03

  Oh, cool question.

• 1:24:09Speaker 08

  This might take some thought here for a second. You can talk through it.

• 1:24:15Speaker 03

  I'll answer a different version of this question, a person who's not dead that I'd like to fish with, Jeremy Wade. I love Jeremy Wade. I just respect everything about his show and how he fishes. I watched every episode when I was a kid, all the way through college. A big fan of Jeremy Wade.

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  Man.

• 1:24:34Speaker 03

  But Randall's bringing someone back from the dead and hunting with them.

• 1:24:37Speaker 02

  I'm struggling here, I'm really struggling.

• 1:24:40Speaker 03

  Too many people.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I mean, like, the obvious one's TR. But then I'm like, hmm, I don't know, is he a nice guy? What's it like sharing a camp with him? He's a large man. Wouldn't share a tent. You need a lot of bags of chips. Boy, I mean, I feel like I've lost all my momentum with this question. Might have to come back. Jack's not gonna think about this. Let's move on for one second.

• 1:25:09Speaker 08

  We can come back to it. You know, just to make the people upstairs happy.

• 1:25:13Speaker 02

  Oh, God, it's embarrassing.

• 1:25:14Speaker 08

  We're live! One piece of First Light gear. What would it be if you could only have one?

• 1:25:23Speaker 02

  Whoa. But we can have, like, the other clothes-on stuff that we'd wear?

• 1:25:29Speaker 08

  I think, yeah, I think that's kind of, yeah.

• 1:25:32Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah. Favorite piece of First Light? I'd go, I know what it is. It's the Chamberlain jacket. It's like a sleeping bag. Don't own another jacket that's that warm. And for hunting, big game in the West, and just glassing somewhere in the wind, or sitting on a mountaintop when it's early November, Chamberlain jacket goes with me everywhere.

• 1:25:56Speaker 03

  Yeah. I'm still in summer mode, so I'm thinking about my favorite things from First Light in the summer. Number one I've worn all spring and all summer is the Flashstorm jacket. That is their lightweight raincoat. It's 6.5 ounces. It performs really well in rain. It's also light enough that I'll throw it on if the bugs are bad, if I need to keep mosquitoes off of me. I am a huge fan of that Flashstorm. And it's cheap as far as raincoats go. It's listed at $185 right now. If I had $185 to spend at First Light, that's what I would spend it on. That's, like, going to be my go-to raincoat for a long, long time. Big fan.

• 1:26:38Speaker 04

  I don't know if anybody's in this room has tried our new socks. But they're pretty bomber.

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:26:44Speaker 04

  Gotta have a good pair of socks.

• 1:26:46Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:26:47Speaker 04

  Our mid-weight merino sock over the calf, so there's no.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  Good pair of socks is mission critical.

• 1:26:53Speaker 04

  Yep. We have great jackets, great pants, great underwear.

• 1:26:56Speaker 02

  You're taking this too far.

• 1:26:57Speaker 03

  I'm wearing their underwear right now.

• 1:26:59Speaker 04

  Watch out.

• 1:27:01Speaker 02

  What do we got, Phil?

• 1:27:02Speaker 08

  Uh, I don't remember. I'm just trying to avoid the dumb questions for me. So I don't remember if you guys specifically have talked about this, but for the media crew, what hunts do you have planned for the fall? Some of you might have shared, because I think I've asked this before, but I think Brody was there, it might have been somebody else, but.

• 1:27:17Speaker 02

  Um, I've got standard Montana general tags. I've got a Montana pronghorn tag and I've got. I'm gonna do a mule deer hunt in Idaho and uh, that should keep me busy.

• 1:27:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a busy little uh, mid-October, November stretch there.

• 1:27:37Speaker 04

  Congrats on the pronghorn tag. Those are hard to come by these days.

• 1:27:40Speaker 02

  Well, we, we struck out last year, so the Williams family, uh. I feel like we, we weren't owed, but I feel like it was, I spent a lot of time thinking about the next pronghorn tag and now it's here, you know?

• 1:27:54Speaker 03

  It worked.

• 1:27:55Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:27:55Speaker 04

  I haven't drawn pronghorn three years in a row now.

• 1:27:57Speaker 03

  Damn.

• 1:27:58Speaker 04

  They don't give them to Montana natives anymore.

• 1:28:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, why would they?

• 1:28:02Speaker 04

  I just have general deer and general elk. Oh, and I do have an extra cow tag this year, so if all goes well, it'll be a overflowing freezer by Thanksgiving.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  That's exciting. Now Spencer's got a lot.

• 1:28:12Speaker 03

  I have, I have deer tags in five states. Um, Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Illinois.

• 1:28:20Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:28:21Speaker 03

  So my first deer hunt will be early October in Idaho and my last deer hunt will be early to mid-December in Illinois. Uh, with my other three states between there. Very excited.

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Phil?

• 1:28:37Speaker 08

  Uh, without, um, you know, giving away any episodes of meteor trivia that might have been filmed already, Lance says, as a random, I need to know what's up with the trivia slump.

• 1:28:48Speaker 03

  Lance Williams.

• 1:28:49Speaker 02

  Well Lance, there's a

• 1:28:53Speaker 02

  there's a short answer and there's a longer answer. The short answer would be everybody's got a bad day or two here or there and sometimes they string together five, six weeks in a row. Uh, the longer answer is that, uh,

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  the past like month and a half, we've been working to, uh, finish up the next audio book and my, my entire faculties, mental, physical have all been depleted significantly. So, rest assured, uh, the old doctor's back on his horse. So stay tuned. Now that that project's wrapped up, I think we're gonna get back in the swing of things. You know what I mean?

• 1:29:30Speaker 03

  Randall, Randall was injured, so now he's, he's at full health.

• 1:29:34Speaker 02

  Well, not quite full health. I'm 39 years old and sliding to the grave. Uh, maybe headfirst, but you know, we're doing what we were doing a couple of months ago.

• 1:29:44Speaker 03

  He's back.

• 1:29:46Speaker 08

  Uh, are you guys archery guys in here?

• 1:29:48Speaker 02

  Nope, not at all.

• 1:29:49Speaker 08

  Corey is. There's a, there's a question a while ago. It was pretty basic. It was basically like single pin versus the, uh,

• 1:29:54Speaker 04

  Hmm. Multi pins?

• 1:29:56Speaker 08

  Multi pins.

• 1:29:56Speaker 04

  Sure, sure.

• 1:29:57Speaker 08

  If you have a preference, because they, uh, they were saying that adjusting pins.

• 1:29:59Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:30:01Speaker 08

  Maybe when you're drawn or

• 1:30:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:03Speaker 08

  trying not to distract or anything like that is a, would, would that be a problem? Is that a problem for you?

• 1:30:08Speaker 04

  Well, I've used them both for sure. And, uh, single pin just gets you into trouble more. I've taken that extra second to have to move your hand up to your sight to dial in, to adjust that one single pin can be, uh, that half second that you need it to be a little faster. So I, I have four pins that I don't adjust at all. Just aim and shoot.

• 1:30:28Speaker 03

  Beautiful.

• 1:30:29Speaker 04

  Gotta be quick.

• 1:30:29Speaker 03

  There's also hybrids. If you're torn, you could get a three pin where your top one is the floater that you, you would dial with and your other two are fixed. And so you have fixed yardages out to say 20, 30, 40. And then if you have to go beyond that, then that's when you would dial.

• 1:30:44Speaker 04

  Yep. To each their own on that one.

• 1:30:47Speaker 08

  Uh, we can wrap it up there, but just, I didn't mean to say the dumb questions people ask me, like the questions are dumb. I just, I, it makes me uncomfortable to address them.

• 1:30:56Speaker 02

  You don't want to talk about demon, demon stillbirth again?

• 1:31:01Speaker 08

  I would talk about that all day if I had the opportunity, but I don't think I do. But just to fire him off, Leland, I see you. I hear you. The Red Dead Redemption stream is still TBD. It is happening. I don't know. Uh, when am I going to play Dungeons and Dragons with the people here? I will force multiple people in this room to play D and D with me soon.

• 1:31:19Speaker 02

  I've been asking you to do that.

• 1:31:21Speaker 08

  Uh, you're, you're gonna have no choice.

• 1:31:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, the tables have turned from, uh, Phil requesting us to play to us requesting him to, uh, host the game. It's gonna happen.

• 1:31:32Speaker 08

  Yeah, we will find, just as a sneak peek of something you may never see, we're gonna find out once and for all what happened to Steve's fish. I'll just, I'll leave it at that.

• 1:31:40Speaker 02

  Very good.

• 1:31:41Speaker 08

  Um, and that's pretty much it. If you guys, I mean, this is, this is a good show. It's a hefty show.

• 1:31:46Speaker 02

  Man, I feel like we could, sort of had a thin lineup, but we, we really, um, squeezed all the juice out of each segment. It was a rich text, um, that I'm sure will go down in this, uh, podcast history.

• 1:32:01Speaker 03

  Yep. That was a great show.

• 1:32:03Speaker 02

  Well, gang, thanks for joining. Always a pleasure. And Phil, thank you. Corey, Spencer, thank you. And, uh, we'll see you next week.

• 1:32:11Speaker 03

  Bye now.

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