Fight Companion - February 8, 2025

Joe is joined by Matt Serra, Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen to watch the fights on February 8, 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Speaker names marked ? are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.

• 0:00Joe Rogan?

  I'm, we're up.

• 0:03Joe Rogan?

  It's buffering. That's it, we're live.

• 0:07Speaker 01

  You got your cans?

• 0:08Joe Rogan?

  We're live.

• 0:08Speaker 02

  Try to put my cans on.

• 0:09Speaker 03

  Put your boogie cans on.

• 0:11Speaker 01

  Put the cans on.

• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  We're all professionals, we're all professionals.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  Is everybody drinking?

• 0:16Joe Rogan?

  Yes, we have Buffalo Trace here, we have whatever you want, we have vodka, we have all kinds of shit. What do you like?

• 0:22Speaker 03

  What do you like?

• 0:23Speaker 01

  Vodka, club? With a splash of cran? Nah, it's not fucking, it's not a, you don't gotta worry about that.

• 0:29Joe Rogan?

  You can't hear it?

• 0:31Speaker 01

  You don't hear nothing?

• 0:32Joe Rogan?

  You hear it now? You don't hear anything? Jamie will check it out, it might be a wires loose.

• 0:36Speaker 01

  Oh, I thought he was running for, I thought he was running for the drinks too, he does not, is he play bartender too, Jamie?

• 0:41Speaker 03

  Well, bring over us bottles.

• 0:43Joe Rogan?

  We got some stuff you can mix it with, I think, but I don't know. Do you need mixes?

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Nah, I don't need a mix, or nothing, I was just gonna do a vodka with a club, I don't need no cranberry.

• 0:52Joe Rogan?

  We have club soda? Yeah, I don't know if we have club soda.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  Am I being a fancy pants?

• 0:57Joe Rogan?

  A little bit, a little bit.

• 0:59Speaker 01

  Well, what are you allowed to?

• 1:00Joe Rogan?

  You're allowed to.

• 1:01Speaker 01

  Little hair of a dog?

• 1:02Speaker 03

  I'm the only one that doesn't drink, but.

• 1:03Joe Rogan?

  Whiskey with a ice ball. You're not drinking at all?

• 1:06Speaker 02

  I mean, I'll drink a little something.

• 1:07Speaker 01

  I'm not a big drinker, but, win in Austin, give me some of that, give me some of that. Oh shit.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:18Joe Rogan?

  Brendan Schaub, stay on that wagon, sir.

• 1:20Speaker 03

  Have to.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  Guys.

• 1:21Speaker 03

  Otherwise I turn into a gremlin.

• 1:23Joe Rogan?

  Salute.

• 1:26Joe Rogan?

  Fuck companion.

• 1:27Speaker 02

  There's no middle ground for Brendan, it's either all or nothing.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  And by the way, I smell and knew with Tatiana Suarez, if you ask me.

• 1:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, all day.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  I saw her just, I was just watching some of the fights and I saw her just take down Jessica Andrade and smoke her. Like nobody's business, and she was, and she's not easy to get down, she's a fucking.

• 1:46Speaker 03

  She was a Gatorade High School Wrestler of the Year when she came out, and then she won the Ultimate Fighter, she was a savage and she got hurt.

• 1:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she had a couple of injuries that like derailed her career for a little bit.

• 1:57Speaker 03

  She was on the Olympic team but then got cancer, she defeated cancer.

• 2:00Speaker 02

  Cancer? What kind of cancer?

• 2:02Speaker 03

  She beat cancer.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 2:03Speaker 03

  She's a savage, though.

• 2:05Joe Rogan?

  So good at wrestling.

• 2:06Speaker 03

  We labeled her the Khabib of the women's division.

• 2:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, here we go, we got something to mix it up with, oh, La Croix's, there we go.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Oh, alright, I didn't have a sip of this. That's okay.

• 2:17Speaker 03

  I'm easy. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

• 2:20Joe Rogan?

  Um, yeah, that's a good fight. Jashawn Way Lee is such a monster, man. She's so hard to bet against.

• 2:25Speaker 03

  But.

• 2:26Joe Rogan?

  That lady is such an animal.

• 2:27Speaker 03

  When's the last time she fought a, a real wrestler?

• 2:30Joe Rogan?

  She has not. She's never fought anybody like, like her. Not even close.

• 2:34Speaker 03

  Neither of them have fought anybody of the caliber that they are. That's why it's a great fight. They're also both older. I think Tatiata's thirty-one and then homegirl Way Ling is what, thirty-four?

• 2:43Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy to say? Because Alex Pereira's thirty-seven.

• 2:46Speaker 03

  Different.

• 2:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, isn't it? That's weird though, right? You're like, older, thirty-one, you start going, hmm. Isn't that interesting?

• 2:53Speaker 03

  Especially if they're lighter weight class. Lighter weight class female, like older, they turn into fucking gremlins. How about fucking Pantoja?

• 3:00Joe Rogan?

  He might, he might be the best guy pound for pound alive. He might be right up there with Tapuria and Islam and John Jones and everybody else who's in the conversation.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  But he's small, so no one cares.

• 3:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but goddamn, man. He was so good against that Japanese cat. I was like, my god.

• 3:16Speaker 03

  And that Japanese cat didn't have that first time jitters.

• 3:18Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 3:19Speaker 03

  He came out there like a fucking hellcat.

• 3:21Joe Rogan?

  Hella striker.

• 3:23Speaker 03

  What?

• 3:23Joe Rogan?

  Ryzen.

• 3:24Speaker 03

  Ryzen.

• 3:25Joe Rogan?

  Dangerous striker. Dangerous striker. But think about it, they had to sign a homeboy from Ryzen to compete with them. Like, there's, there's not much for him. Pantoja's an animal and he keeps getting better. Like, he looked better in that fight than ever before. His timing and everything was pristine.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  How old is he?

• 3:39Joe Rogan?

  Thirty-four, maybe? How old is, uh, Pantoja?

• 3:41Speaker 03

  That's rare. Dude, remember when the belt was like, "Do you see me now, dad?" Yo, whoa. He's like, "I gotta get your ass."

• 3:48Joe Rogan?

  Whatever, whatever it takes. He's, he's one of my absolute favorite guys to watch fight.

• 3:54Speaker 03

  Monster, yeah.

• 3:55Joe Rogan?

  Just an animal. Just a dog. Just a full.

• 3:57Speaker 03

  Beautiful jiu-jitsu.

• 3:58Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  Crisp striking.

• 4:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. His striking was super impressive against that Japanese cat because I was like, man, the timing is just so good. There was no place where that guy was safe, you know?

• 4:09Speaker 01

  He was driving, uh, I think he was doing Uber Eats.

• 4:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:12Speaker 01

  When he was fighting. He's a sweet guy, really sweet guy.

• 4:16Joe Rogan?

  Crazy.

• 4:17Speaker 03

  But the narrative on that too, like the media is like, you know, he's a UFC fighter, he's driving for Uber Eats. It's like, he also fought once in three years. Like, that's on you, dog.

• 4:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:26Speaker 03

  That's on you.

• 4:26Joe Rogan?

  It's, there's a lot of things going on, but it's also weird that 125, it's real hard to sell. 135, no problem.

• 4:34Speaker 03

  Cause 125-

• 4:35Joe Rogan?

  You got Sugar Sean, you got Marab.

• 4:37Speaker 03

  You got some stars with personality, but 125, every dude's in on the couch is like, they're tiny, I can beat them up. And they have no fucking clue.

• 4:44Joe Rogan?

  How do they not think that about the 135s? How is it 10 pounds, like, ah, okay? Isn't that weird?

• 4:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:49Joe Rogan?

  It's weird.

• 4:50Speaker 03

  Human nature.

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Maybe because you've got some very fucking exciting personalities at 35.

• 4:55Joe Rogan?

  What about Mighty Mouse?

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Marab.

• 4:57Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Mighty Mouse was amazing when he was the champion. Amazing. He was doing wizardry.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  One of the best ever.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  He was doing wizardry.

• 5:03Joe Rogan?

  Wizardry.

• 5:03Speaker 03

  But he wasn't controversial. Like, he was, Mighty Mouse was like the nice guy ever.

• 5:08Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that Ray Borg fight?

• 5:09Speaker 03

  Dude, I was about to-

• 5:10Joe Rogan?

  Where he suplexed him and caught him in an arm bar by the way down?

• 5:12Speaker 03

  I never seen anything like that.

• 5:13Joe Rogan?

  He's 34, yeah. He's 34. Fucking animal.

• 5:15Speaker 03

  34 at 125 is like 56.

• 5:18Joe Rogan?

  There's, there's talk about him going to 35. Him versus Marab would be fucking bananas.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, but-

• 5:24Joe Rogan?

  Banana!

• 5:25Speaker 02

  I'm never betting against Marab again, ever.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  How great was that?

• 5:28Joe Rogan?

  Ever.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  How great was that Umar fight?

• 5:30Joe Rogan?

  Amazing.

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Amazing.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  I thought for sure Umar was gonna beat him.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Did you really?

• 5:34Speaker 03

  You're a piece of shit.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  Why would you think that?

• 5:36Speaker 03

  I'll tell you right now, anyone from Dagestan, or that area, Brian will suck off.

• 5:40Speaker 02

  He's so good at striking, at wrestling.

• 5:42Joe Rogan?

  It's both from that area, so what does he do?

• 5:44Speaker 03

  Drives me nuts.

• 5:45Joe Rogan?

  They're both from, they're both from the Caucasus Mountains.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  They are.

• 5:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, but one guy trains in Jersey, like, what are we doing here? And also, Marab-

• 5:51Speaker 01

  He lived in Vegas, man.

• 5:52Joe Rogan?

  He's Vegas.

• 5:53Speaker 03

  But Marab has the, Marab, you know what I'm saying? Close.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  I get him, I get him so riled up. Anybody from Dagestan, I got, that guy's gonna crush him.

• 6:01Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Marab is a machine. The thing is the biggest weapon in all of combat sports and all of sports period. His, his cardio is the most lethal thing on the planet. His cardio and his wrestling.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  And he's a gold medalist, you know.

• 6:14Joe Rogan?

  And he's striking.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you gotta, you gotta see though, like you look on paper and people making a, they were saying, oh man, well he's got the wrestling to counter him and he's got the better hands. Marab his whole fucking career for guys with a good wrestling base and fucking good striking. You know what I mean? He's used to that. Who the, who are you gonna get to simulate Marab? He never, he never fought anybody like Marab. But I mean, this was, I wasn't, we weren't surprised at all. It was, it went, put him, oh, fuck, no.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  What about against Sehudo, a gold medalist who's seen it all?

• 6:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was amazing, but the thing about Umar is Umar's striking is, is really elite. It's elite and deceptive. He does a bunch of stuff that no one does. Like one of the things he does is his crazy front kick to the, and he throws a, a right leg roundhouse kick and a left leg roundhouse kick to the face. Both of them with like equal dexterity, both off the lead leg. Like he whips that lead leg over your shoulder and smacks guys in the face and his timing, but. It works for him.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Keep the pace.

• 7:11Joe Rogan?

  Timing. No one can. Nobody can. Never. No one ever will.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  He's a master of range, Marab. They think that, oh, he doesn't have the reach. He's a master of closing that distance. He throws that overhand into the single leg, to the double leg to, you don't know whether he's shooting or striking the whole time. And what I love about it is after that first round, oh man, Marab dropped that round. Second round, he's, he's not getting stressed. You see him getting his back taken.

• 7:36Speaker 02

  He's smiling.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  And, ah, dude, he's there all night and he could afford another 25 minutes.

• 7:40Joe Rogan?

  I believe it.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  I never seen anything like it. I've seen a lot.

• 7:43Joe Rogan?

  I don't think we will either. Was he always like that with his cardio?

• 7:46Speaker 01

  He was always like that with the cardio, but he didn't have the tools to get out of certain positions.

• 7:51Joe Rogan?

  Do you see, did you see what DC said?

• 7:53Speaker 01

  No.

• 7:53Joe Rogan?

  On his Instagram? DC went to visit him the day after the fight and he's running.

• 7:58Speaker 01

  No, he loves it.

• 7:59Joe Rogan?

  So he beats Sugar Sean, wins the world title, DC goes to visit him at his house, he's not home. He's running.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  I'd be running too.

• 8:05Joe Rogan?

  So DC's wandering around his house. He doesn't even know he's there. Like, he just lets him, he just walks into his fucking house. And he's like filming Marab's gym. Like, who's gym you think this is? Like, this guy'll picture Marab.

• 8:15Speaker 03

  It's the best weapon in UFC. He loves it, man. He loves, he just loves it. He loves the train.

• 8:20Joe Rogan?

  He's incredible. His, but that's all, that's two things, right? That's some kind of genetic gift and on top of that insane hard work. It's like both things, because the guy's a tank. Like, there's a lot of great genes.

• 8:32Speaker 03

  It reminds me of K, remember K now that weird cardio?

• 8:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Put his head in your chest and just bang.

• 8:38Speaker 03

  They said he took two months off in his heyday. He took two months off, came in the gym, and DC was like, we're gonna beat the shit out of K. He has been in two months.

• 8:43Joe Rogan?

  This episode is presented by Searchlight Pictures Wild Horse 9. Shortly before Chile's 1973 coup, two CIA agents, played by John Malkovich and Sam Rockwell, find their mission on Easter Island spiraling into a web of conspiracies, unexpected alliances, and chaos. Wild Horse 9, only in theaters Friday. Get tickets now. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. Hook up a better speaker to your TV and your home theater experience is immediately 10 times better. Or add a little extra treat to your dog's food. They get so happy at dinnertime. Sometimes, it's worth it to go that extra step

• 9:25Joe Rogan?

  to find people who will do that for your business. Check out ZipRecruiter. Try it for free at ziprecruiter.com/rogan. ZipRecruiter has what you need to find great candidates fast, like powerful matching technology to help sort through thousands of resumes and a feature that puts people who are the most interested and most qualified first. Try ZipRecruiter and meet great candidates who'll go the extra step for your job. Four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day. Try it for free today at ziprecruiter.com/rogan. That's ziprecruiter.com/rogan.

• 10:10Joe Rogan?

  ZipRecruiter. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter.

• 10:14Joe Rogan?

  This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Scams have gotten smarter because criminals use AI to flood you with fake texts, emails, and phone calls that are designed to be more convincing than ever. One wrong click could put your personal information and your identity at risk. So protect yourself with LifeLock. LifeLock helps detect and alert you to threats. And if your identity is stolen, LifeLock will step in to fix it, guaranteed or your money back. Dedicated US-based identity restoration specialists will work with you until your identity is restored, backed by the million-dollar protection package with up to $3 million in coverage for eligible losses and expenses.

• 10:56Joe Rogan?

  Visit lifelock.com and save up to 30% your first year with the promo code JRE. That's promo code JRE. Or go to lifelock.com/JRE for 30% off. Terms apply.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  He goes, "He went Shark Tank rounds and beat the fuck out of everyone." His cardio was fine.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  Luke Rockhold told me that Kane was the guy who would turn your fucking head around. He would just get in there. And he said at one point, what he was doing to Luke, to Daniel, to all those guys was like a different thing. It was a nightmare.

• 11:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what changed with Kane was he blew his knee out when he was getting ready for the...

• 11:36Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no.

• 11:37Speaker 03

  Way before that?

• 11:38Joe Rogan?

  He lost to...

• 11:39Speaker 03

  JDS.

• 11:40Joe Rogan?

  JDS, Junior Dos Santos. Sorry, Junior. I just had a brain fart. Junior Dos Santos knocked him out on Fox and his knee was fucked up going into that fight. And that was the big fight for Fox. It was like one of our first big events.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  Huge event.

• 11:52Joe Rogan?

  Huge event. And he really shouldn't have been fighting. He should have got out of the fight. His knee was fucked up. So Junior knocks him out and then he beats the shit out of Junior in the rematch.

• 12:02Speaker 03

  And he beats the shit out of Junior in the rematch after that. The third fight.

• 12:05Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he beats him like in a way that takes years off your life.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, changed his DNA forever.

• 12:10Joe Rogan?

  His, that pace, you just, you see these guys just...

• 12:13Speaker 02

  Brock Lesnar?

• 12:13Joe Rogan?

  They can't breathe. They're just wilting from that pace.

• 12:16Speaker 03

  Especially at heavyweight.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  I love that. The Brock Lesnar fight.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, a lot of it had to do with, he was very good at boxing. He picked up on boxing. So quickly.

• 12:24Joe Rogan?

  And it was all smooth technique. There wasn't no big wind ups where his chin was exposed. It was all very smooth. The Nogarakaio, oh my goodness.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  Fast.

• 12:34Joe Rogan?

  That fucking bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Oh, it was like lightning just smooth.

• 12:39Speaker 03

  Kane in his prime is the best heavyweight ever.

• 12:40Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to say because of Fedor. Cause if you could get juicy Fedor from Pride.

• 12:45Speaker 03

  I think Kane beats the fuck out of him.

• 12:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, man. I don't know if anybody beats Fedor in his prime.

• 12:49Speaker 03

  Fedor is so accurate with his strikes.

• 12:50Joe Rogan?

  So good, dude. Fedor walked down Krokop when Krokop was in his prime. You gotta remember that most of that fight was standing up. And Fedor was going blow to blow with Krokop and walking him down. He was very unusual. He, that Randalman Kaya or the Randalman armbar, Randalman fucking suplexes him on his head.

• 13:08Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 13:09Joe Rogan?

  And five seconds later, he's got him into Kimura. It's crazy. He was different. He was a mo- when he beat up Nogara dude, oh my god. Watch that fight again.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  I'd like to seen some testing around those times.

• 13:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, on all of them. But even on the UFC back then, even on the UFC back then though.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  It'd be tough Kane with that.

• 13:26Joe Rogan?

  Tim motherfucking Sylvia, when he was Rico Rodriguez, when he beat the shit out of Rico Rodriguez and looked like a bodybuilder.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  So scary. Kane, Kane has Brian Callen's chest. That dude's not on his team.

• 13:36Joe Rogan?

  No, no Kane, Kane had them jeans. He had them jeans. He had them fucking Mayan warrior jeans.

• 13:42Speaker 03

  He doesn't have an incline machine like Brian Callen.

• 13:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he has some Aztec warrior jeans. Like whatever Kane had is like superior genetics. His cardio was nuts.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  You hear the way DC talks about him and his sparring and stuff, so you know, I don't think he's just throwing the praise out there.

• 13:57Joe Rogan?

  No, DC clearly would clearly say, the only reason why I'm heavyweight champion is because Kane's not fighting.

• 14:02Speaker 03

  Dude, I'll never forget when, when Kane was fighting, I was on the same card. I fought Gonzaga. Yeah, that was the fight he fought Lesnar. And when we're doing, we're doing the fucking pre shoot stuff, he took his shirt off and I'm like waiting to go. And he has that brown pride. I looked at the guy doing the video stuff, I go, hey, if I put white pride, is that cool? And he goes, dude, just shut the fuck up. That wouldn't go over too big.

• 14:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're allowed to have brown pride. You're allowed to have brown. Well, because the Mexicans didn't really subjugate the white people in recent memory.

• 14:32Speaker 02

  It's a little different.

• 14:33Joe Rogan?

  It's a little different.

• 14:34Speaker 02

  Let me pull out my history book. Let me pull out some history.

• 14:36Joe Rogan?

  It's a big difference. We sold our whole country.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  It's worth, yeah. Yeah, what's with this world stuff?

• 14:42Joe Rogan?

  Did you guys see Cat Williams in Phoenix?

• 14:45Speaker 02

  No.

• 14:46Speaker 03

  We lit up that dude?

• 14:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. Not only did he lit up that dude, he had the whole crowd chant in America.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, dude.

• 14:51Joe Rogan?

  He's like, motherfucker, this ain't Mexico. This is Phoenix. It was incredible.

• 14:56Speaker 03

  He had a heckler?

• 14:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Oh, he had a heckler in Phoenix and...

• 14:59Speaker 03

  Something about Mexicans and Cat just fucking lights him on fire.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  I saw Cat Williams at the Comedy Store one time. He was so fucking good. He was, like, I've been doing this for 30 years. He was, like, and he was, he was playing with a band and stuff like that. He's, he's one of the greats.

• 15:13Speaker 03

  Did you see my Theo's podcast?

• 15:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Cause he's, he kinda does a character, you know, and you, you know, he's doing his thing, but Theo's so fucking funny. He breaks like three times. He just can't. He just can't.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 15:23Speaker 03

  Cause Theo's talking about black ducks. He goes, you need to get some black ducks, dude. It's so funny.

• 15:28Joe Rogan?

  Mine. He's the best.

• 15:30Speaker 03

  He broke Cat like four times.

• 15:31Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 15:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:32Joe Rogan?

  How about when he was talking to the president and he was saying, man, that cocaine would turn you into a damn owl?

• 15:37Speaker 03

  Have you seen that report's turning a damn owl?

• 15:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I saw that.

• 15:40Joe Rogan?

  And Trump's all, ah.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  Trump's like, what the fuck?

• 15:42Joe Rogan?

  He's talking about cocaine. But that is like, really probably what Trump needed. He needed those kind of interviews.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Which, uh, which comedians was he shitting on when he said your friends aren't funny?

• 15:53Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  Not to make it awkward.

• 15:54Joe Rogan?

  Listen, he said that.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  Why would he do that?

• 15:55Joe Rogan?

  He said that because he thought for some crazy reason that I didn't want to have him on, like somehow or another, that I, he would be showing up people or something like, cause he's so good. Maybe he thought that because he's isolated. That's not, he doesn't know me that well. The first time I met him was in the studio.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:11Joe Rogan?

  I love Cat Williams. I've always been a fan. I've always talked about Pimp Chronicles. It's fucking fantastic. It's so good. He's so wild and I've actually taken advice from him. There's two pieces of advice that I took from an interview that he did once that I use to this day. One, he said I never eat before a show. He said, "Don't eat." He goes, "I want to be hungry. Better off being hungry. My brain works better." And then two, he said, "I have a music playlist that I make that just gets me in the mood to do a show." And so I'm like, "That's a good idea." And from then on, I started carrying around like a Bluetooth machine, like a Bluetooth boombox and bringing, and then the green room playlist that we have on Spotify. That's all the songs.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  But it's no different what athletes do.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  It's smart. You guys should do it. That's what athletes do.

• 16:53Joe Rogan?

  It was a smart thing. I was thinking, I was like, "Why don't I do that?" Like, that makes sense. Like, you want to turn it into a little bit of a party.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:58Joe Rogan?

  You get that music going. It feels good, like we do with the green room at the mothership. Get that music going. Everybody's having fun.

• 17:04Speaker 01

  I want to give you a compliment. Longo, who doesn't give compliments? I don't know where the fuck he saw you, but he's... "I was fucking dying the whole time. The whole time, dying."

• 17:14Joe Rogan?

  That was a good show.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  You killed him.

• 17:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  You fucked. Good for you.

• 17:17Joe Rogan?

  I love it.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  That is a stress factor.

• 17:18Joe Rogan?

  Jake Matthews, I'm very high on this kid.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  I like him too.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  Very, very high on this kid.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Oh, are we starting now?

• 17:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  Main card?

• 17:25Joe Rogan?

  I think Jimmy Crute's fight got canceled. Is that correct?

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Jake Matthews is always exciting.

• 17:30Joe Rogan?

  Always. He's super good, dude. He's like one of those guys that look like he could break through any moment now.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  But he's a little reckless, so he'll win like three and then lose one.

• 17:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's fighting really good guys, man.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  The UFC.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  I smell him by submission. That's what I smell. What do you smell?

• 17:46Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  Listen, this guy, Prada, he's real good. But he's got good striking.

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  Jake Matthews, very well-rounded.

• 17:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, very well-rounded, but sharp striking. Jake's striking is just crisp.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  I think the...

• 18:01Joe Rogan?

  Really intelligent.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  To be intelligent in this fight, I think he should get his ass down.

• 18:05Speaker 04

  Is she about to sing the national anthem?

• 18:07Joe Rogan?

  Heidi Andrell on the spotlight. She's been with the UFC for a long time.

• 18:10Speaker 04

  Is Jimmy Crute there? I don't...

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Is she about to sing the anthem?

• 18:12Joe Rogan?

  I don't even think I've met her. There's Jimmy Crute. He's getting ready. Oh, he's back.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  Wait, what is happening?

• 18:17Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  The brute is back.

• 18:19Joe Rogan?

  So is the fight not canceled?

• 18:21Speaker 04

  I don't... I was looking to see if it was...

• 18:22Joe Rogan?

  Underdog plus 1:35.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  It's February 6th. It's a couple days ago.

• 18:26Speaker 03

  No, but up top, it says the brute's back. That's 11 minutes ago.

• 18:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. So he's not off the card. Just Google Jimmy Crute off UFC card. I read that three different fights were off the card.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  I don't know, man.

• 18:38Joe Rogan?

  And Crute was one of them.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  I like that fucking mullet, though.

• 18:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. He's in there.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  I like that mullet.

• 18:43Joe Rogan?

  I like that dude.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  That mullet.

• 18:45Joe Rogan?

  He's, he's very good. Very good ground game.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  He's got a fucking kimura.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  What weight is he fighting at?

• 18:52Joe Rogan?

  Isn't Crute a middleweight?

• 18:53Speaker 02

  He looks eh.

• 18:54Speaker 01

  He's uh 185 I believe, yeah.

• 18:57Joe Rogan?

  I think he's a middleweight.

• 19:00Joe Rogan?

  Light heavyweight, oh he's fighting light heavyweight this fight.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Did he used to fight 185?

• 19:04Joe Rogan?

  I think he did. I do believe he did. Is this a last minute replacement fight Jamie? This uh Jimmy Crute uh Balotto or is that the original? No, that's the guy he had, right? It's interesting that he decided to do that and he's an underdog and uh I don't know, I'm not familiar with Balotto.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Here's the thing, people hate on the card because they're not big names, but if you notice the way the fight, the card's structured, which is why I don't hate on it, is they're all gonna be, for the most part, finishes. They're supposed to be, on paper.

• 19:31Joe Rogan?

  Both of these guys-

• 19:32Speaker 01

  You never know, but they're super exciting fights.

• 19:33Joe Rogan?

  Prado and Jake Matthews is a very good fight to kick it off with. I'm, I'm real excited about this, they're both very good.

• 19:39Speaker 01

  It's a fun card.

• 19:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It's just not one of them cards that like jumps out.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  If you're casual, you're like, where's Carter?

• 19:45Joe Rogan?

  Here's the thing, we're fucking so spoiled because in most sports, like in most combat sports, it's all about the main event.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, those, and they either go away or they, you don't give a fuck.

• 19:55Joe Rogan?

  Most people are barely watching the prelims in boxing.

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Also UFC has to fill a lot of cards, you know, so you can't have them stacked like it's fucking 1998. I get upset on a Saturday when there's no UFC.

• 20:04Joe Rogan?

  I do too.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  It's part of my Saturday.

• 20:07Joe Rogan?

  You don't know what to do.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  I fucking, it's just, it just makes my day complete.

• 20:11Joe Rogan?

  There is nothing better for me, there's nothing better for me than just chilling at home, watching the fights. I feel so relaxed. I don't have to work and I can watch them.

• 20:19Speaker 01

  Best thing on earth.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, you watch the screen. Uh, you don't watch the actual fight.

• 20:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I watch the fight when I can.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:25Joe Rogan?

  But the problem is there's some positions where, especially when they're on the ground, like I don't know if someone's trapped, I don't know if, how they have it.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  And you can see it better.

• 20:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, all I see is a back and a dude and I'm confused as to what's going on, you know? I need to, I need to see the monitor sometimes.

• 20:38Speaker 01

  There's pillars in the way.

• 20:38Joe Rogan?

  I need to see the monitor with replays all the time because we don't know if a guy got hit or if it's a headbutt. Like sometimes, I remember Matt Serra when he fought Matt Hughes. I thought Matt Serra dropped him.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  And I did fucking drop him, let's talk about that.

• 20:50Joe Rogan?

  Let's do it.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  Can we talk about that?

• 20:52Speaker 01

  I wanted, every time I hear him say it, it's like, oh, it was a headbutt! My head hit him. My head connected, he was still standing.

• 20:59Joe Rogan?

  Look at that head.

• 21:00Speaker 01

  It's a fucking, oh, it's a fucking rock.

• 21:03Joe Rogan?

  That head could take out a building. That head hit Tower 7.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  My hand, I went, what'd you say?

• 21:08Joe Rogan?

  I said that head hit Tower 7.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  This thing could go through a fucking wall and chug it out.

• 21:13Joe Rogan?

  That's how that thing collapsed.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  When my head touched his chin, my hand went.

• 21:19Joe Rogan?

  Yes. It was certainly both, but it was definitely your head hit him first.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it, I feel it did not drop.

• 21:25Joe Rogan?

  100% correct. Look, Matt, you always had crazy power.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 21:28Joe Rogan?

  That Frank Trig knockout, yeah.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  I'm just happy I got to fucking hit him.

• 21:31Joe Rogan?

  You had, I know, you hated that dude.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  He went through a lot.

• 21:34Joe Rogan?

  He did go through a lot.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  How about, he's coming back. He looks really good.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Who's coming back?

• 21:37Joe Rogan?

  Matt Sarah. No, I don't mean fighting. I don't mean fighting. No, no, no, no. I mean, coming back from his injury.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 21:43Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, GFL.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  We can talk about that if you want.

• 21:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 21:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. Go ahead, but what were you saying?

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Oh, what the fuck? Okay.

• 21:49Joe Rogan?

  I said, he looks a lot better since his, his rehabilitation. He's doing a lot of stem cells, a lot, Matt Sarah.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 21:55Joe Rogan?

  Excuse, excuse me.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  Matt Hughes.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 21:57Joe Rogan?

  Matt, sorry. Matt, no, you always look great. But Matt, uh, Matt Hughes got hit by a fucking train, you know, and so.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Now, was that on purpose?

• 22:05Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no. His car fucking stalled out or something. I don't know what happened.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Oh, but it's depressing.

• 22:11Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what happened.

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, either way, it sucks.

• 22:12Joe Rogan?

  What are you talking, what the fuck are you introducing to the conversation?

• 22:15Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  I can ask a few questions. I don't know.

• 22:19Joe Rogan?

  Christ.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  It's a train track like his Looney Tunes idol, no?

• 22:22Joe Rogan?

  Maybe he had some information on NASA.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  He was on Cybertruck?

• 22:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they knew something. Um, but anyway, point is like, he looks great. Like he, it's been a long road for that guy to recover from that. He seems a lot better now. He walks a lot better. He's talking a lot smoother.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  I seen him in Manchester. We did like a signing over there like a year ago.

• 22:40Joe Rogan?

  How was he? How was he then?

• 22:42Speaker 01

  Nah. He's alright. No, he's good. He's like, he's walking around. I mean, he's not, nah.

• 22:47Joe Rogan?

  He's not 100%.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  He's not, you know, he's, he's like, yeah. If someone goes, how's Brian Callen? Nah.

• 22:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  I listen. I think that, uh, he's, he's, he's living, you know, I mean, but I don't think he's as sharp as he used to be.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  Major, major brain injury.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  He had some brain injuries, you know?

• 23:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, especially that, the car accident with the, the train.

• 23:03Speaker 01

  That affected him.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  The big one, after a long career of like, you know, a lot of rock and sock and robots fights.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  I worked with him on Kingdom. Spent a, a week with him.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  I love Matt Hughes.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  And he was, and he was great. And we talked a lot about, like, uh, he was like, I just want to be able to wake up, put my shoes on, you know? He, he, he didn't feel like there was anything, but he was worried about it.

• 23:22Joe Rogan?

  This was before the accident?

• 23:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I said, do you have, do you have, do you have memory things?

• 23:25Speaker 03

  That was in 2005?

• 23:27Speaker 02

  No, that was, uh, 2015, uh, 16, 17. Yeah, but, but I'm saying is that he was, he was totally fine and he just, but it was always a worry for him.

• 23:37Speaker 03

  You know who seems to be doing good is Frank Trig. You see him as a ref out there?

• 23:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what you want. Looking nice and fat.

• 23:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  Trick's big.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  Trick's big. Trick's big.

• 23:48Speaker 02

  He's thick, he's thick, he's muscle.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  No, no, no, um.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  He seems happy.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  Man.

• 23:52Joe Rogan?

  I ran into him a few times.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  But that's who you want as a ref or as a judge? Make him a fucking judge.

• 23:56Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Like, these judges tonight, you know, no disrespect, what the fuck? Like, you think they're gonna be able to judge Strickland's defensive striking?

• 24:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, who knows who they have? Maybe they have good ones.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  Can I just tell you?

• 24:08Joe Rogan?

  Chris Leavens been judging.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, Chris Leavens.

• 24:10Joe Rogan?

  Chris Leavens is great.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  He judged the last one.

• 24:12Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  When I'm having a bad day, I put in my knockout of French tree.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:18Speaker 01

  You know why I take shots at this motherfucker? Let me tell you right now. I'm cool with everybody I ever fought. Now, I, you know, I fluctu-, I used to fluctuate. I've been staying, I'm.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  You mean, weight-wise?

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Weight-wise.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, you'd get, you'd get thick, but, but, but.

• 24:31Speaker 01

  What would I fluctuate in other? No, I got fat.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  I remember when you were a brown belt, I've known Matt since 1996.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  Yes. The only man I ever kissed.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  It's right, you kissed me right on the lips.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I was, you know.

• 24:42Speaker 02

  But it was because, I think you went to kiss me on the cheek and I moved my head and then we.

• 24:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Plus you smelled good. It was eye contact.

• 24:49Joe Rogan?

  For the folks at home, let me say this, so to key up. So what we do is when the first scorecard, the first time card, rather, clock, countdown clock goes on, I'll give you the numbers so you can sync up. Four, four fifty-eight, four fif-, or five, four fifty-four, four fifty-three, four fifty-two, four fifty-one, four fifty, four forty-nine. Good enough. All right, figured it out. All right, so, uh, first round, Matthews and Prado.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  I get that light over there, Joe?

• 25:13Joe Rogan?

  Yes, sir.

• 25:14Speaker 01

  Thank you, sir.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  How's, how's my favorite person, uh, Henzo Gracie?

• 25:18Speaker 01

  Man, you tell me, man. I, I talked to him through, uh, Instagram sometimes. He's all over the world, man. He's, he's.

• 25:24Joe Rogan?

  I gotta get Henzo in here, man.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  Oh, oh, he's, give him a call.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  He is the best.

• 25:28Joe Rogan?

  We almost did it one time, he was in Austin, but the timing was bad.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  He's so smart.

• 25:32Speaker 01

  He was just recently in Austin.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Henzo's so smart.

• 25:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's got gyms all over the world, right?

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  He's brilliant. He's just a brilliant.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  One of a kind.

• 25:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  The best.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Well, he's just a great handy.

• 25:43Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't Ricardo Almiro doing uh judging too?

• 25:45Speaker 01

  He was doing judging.

• 25:46Speaker 03

  Yes, he was judging.

• 25:47Joe Rogan?

  He was the first one I heard of.

• 25:49Speaker 02

  This is the guy you're high on, right here, Matthews?

• 25:50Speaker 01

  I like Jake Matthews, I I I don't know, uh let's see if he looks to take it to the floor.

• 25:55Joe Rogan?

  He looks sharp on his feet.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  He's got a big advantage on the floor.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 25:58Joe Rogan?

  He's sharp on his feet, his defense has been looking good.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  He's sitting down with punches too.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:01Joe Rogan?

  His defense has been looking very good.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  But who, um, just gets low and sits down.

• 26:06Joe Rogan?

  He's super technical, and he's like I said, he's one of those guys, it seems to me, like he's gonna break out into the top five. He's one of those guys that's got the talent and he's real young. How old's Jake Matthews, young Jamie?

• 26:17Speaker 01

  He's been around a hot second.

• 26:19Joe Rogan?

  Maybe twenty-nine, if I'm guessing?

• 26:21Speaker 03

  I'd say thirty-one.

• 26:22Joe Rogan?

  But he's just like, one of those guys that's always been like at the cusp.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  It's an interesting lower back tattoo, I'll tell you that much.

• 26:29Joe Rogan?

  Do you like it?

• 26:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:31Joe Rogan?

  What does it make you think of?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  I don't know, it's an interesting idea, like I'm gonna cover just that part of my back.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  What are you thinking, the tramp stamp?

• 26:37Speaker 02

  I mean, it's it's.

• 26:38Speaker 01

  It's not so much like that.

• 26:39Speaker 02

  It's more of a Yakuza.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  Trick used to have a tramp stamp.

• 26:41Joe Rogan?

  Maybe he's gonna do the whole back.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, it looks like it looks like the beginning of a of a of a whole back tattoo.

• 26:46Speaker 01

  When he was goofing on me.

• 26:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's probably.

• 26:48Speaker 03

  But that's like a tribal thing, right? That's like a New Zealand tattoo.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe, or it looks like a Japanese something.

• 26:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, good uppercuts inside, a good knees too. Oh.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 26:58Joe Rogan?

  Matthews is fucking dangerous. Doesn't that dude look like Drew Dober?

• 27:01Speaker 03

  Prado?

• 27:02Joe Rogan?

  A little bit.

• 27:03Speaker 03

  A lot.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  Well, nobody, nobody has Drew Dober's.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Fucking shit.

• 27:06Joe Rogan?

  Just not quite as handsome. That's like Drew Dober's bitter younger brother who's not as good looking.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  God damn it. Didn't get all the.

• 27:12Joe Rogan?

  Fucking Drew. I bring my girlfriends over, they're staring at Drew.

• 27:16Speaker 01

  He does look like him.

• 27:17Speaker 02

  As he chews gum, I'd always be chewing gum.

• 27:20Joe Rogan?

  Always on his tippy toes when he's fighting. That, who's got fucking better like constant staying on the ball of their feet than Drew Dober?

• 27:26Speaker 02

  He's just Jack Armstrong.

• 27:27Joe Rogan?

  He's always like light on his feet, always super light on his feet.

• 27:30Speaker 03

  His chin like Mr. Incredible.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  I'm the exact same. It's ridiculous.

• 27:33Joe Rogan?

  B striker too, B striker.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Fun fighter.

• 27:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, oh my god.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  These guys are fucking.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  I wish Matthews has a good jujitsu, man. I'm telling you.

• 27:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's got good everything, man. Matthews is super well-rounded.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  Somebody's gonna get knocked out though, this guy.

• 27:51Joe Rogan?

  But Prado's good too, man. This is a good fight.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, somebody's gonna connect.

• 27:55Joe Rogan?

  This guy's got that anger. Drew Dober being handsomer than him too. That shit carries you a long way.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  It does.

• 28:01Joe Rogan?

  You think about it. Cause it's just a little bit. It's like, god damn it, if my nose was just a little different. Eyes were just a little more vibrant.

• 28:08Speaker 03

  He's like a poor man's Drew Dober.

• 28:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, like tanned. He's not quite there. You know how like Kanye dated that new lady? He's married their girl. Looks a lot like Kim.

• 28:15Speaker 03

  Well, she's hot, but it's not Kim.

• 28:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 28:18Speaker 03

  I think she's hotter than Kim.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  I think she's way hotter than Kim.

• 28:21Speaker 03

  You seen Kim in person?

• 28:22Speaker 02

  I have.

• 28:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but we see pictures, bro. Come on.

• 28:25Speaker 02

  No, Kim's beautiful, but I mean, come on.

• 28:28Joe Rogan?

  No, you know what? It's like Drew Dober's a Royce Phantom and he's a Chrysler 300.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  I think that girl was born looking like that though. You know what I'm saying?

• 28:35Speaker 02

  I agree. I agree.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  Facts.

• 28:36Joe Rogan?

  Like, I don't think.

• 28:37Speaker 03

  Like, I wasn't mad when she showed up to the Grammys naked. I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm like, you gay?

• 28:42Joe Rogan?

  Wait, does she have a fake ass or no?

• 28:44Speaker 02

  I think it's all real.

• 28:45Joe Rogan?

  I think hers is. I don't think her tits are real.

• 28:47Speaker 02

  I think her tits might be real.

• 28:48Joe Rogan?

  They're all real. Shut your mouth.

• 28:50Speaker 03

  Facts.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  If you can touch them, they're real.

• 28:52Joe Rogan?

  Shut your dirty whore.

• 28:54Speaker 03

  Oh, he might put a takedown.

• 28:55Joe Rogan?

  Shut your dirty whore.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  Oh, that's surprising. Oh, shit.

• 29:00Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 29:02Speaker 02

  Does that count as a takedown?

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Hey dude, that's condescending.

• 29:09Joe Rogan?

  It's a home run.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Hey, that's fucking condescending.

• 29:11Joe Rogan?

  No, that's a field goal, Brian.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  You're joking, yeah?

• 29:15Joe Rogan?

  No, it's a field goal, Brian.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  I like to get people, you know, I like to ask the questions that novices are asked.

• 29:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right, right, right. I do that sometimes on podcasts.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  You gotta create some energy in the podcast.

• 29:24Joe Rogan?

  I ask questions that I know answers to.

• 29:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, come on, man. Get him down now. Put him down.

• 29:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Dude, Prado. Come on, Prado.

• 29:34Speaker 03

  Matthews.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  I've been a Prado fan for a long time.

• 29:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, oh!

• 29:38Speaker 02

  Somebody's getting caught. Somebody's getting caught.

• 29:39Joe Rogan?

  Left hook in the right hand.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  Great defense.

• 29:41Joe Rogan?

  Jake is clean, man. He's clean. I like the way this dude strikes.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  This guy's been doing some boxing.

• 29:46Joe Rogan?

  Super technical, man, but but hyper-aggressive too. Look at that. Oh!

• 29:50Speaker 03

  He blocked it though. He blocked it.

• 29:51Joe Rogan?

  He hit him with the Yair.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 29:53Joe Rogan?

  They're jumping roundhouse. Oh, he's bleeding now.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  Damn. Uh-oh.

• 29:56Joe Rogan?

  Prado's busted up on his right eyebrow.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:59Speaker 03

  Joe, you know, it was one of my favorite moments when you guys fuck it up? When you had Zuckerberg on and he goes, I hunt.

• 30:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  I went like this. Yes.

• 30:09Speaker 03

  What does he hunt? He just, I went, he has, he goes, and then my favorite goes, I bow hunt, I went, thank you, God. I love, I saw Joe go. I go, I saw Joe go. Do you? What kind of bow do you use?

• 30:22Joe Rogan?

  I think he did, he just forgot his bow.

• 30:24Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 30:25Joe Rogan?

  He forgot the name of his bow.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  No.

• 30:27Joe Rogan?

  Listen, there's levels to this shit. I would never forget my bow. But I'm a fanatic. Like, I shoot archery every day.

• 30:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, because you shoot bows and arrows.

• 30:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he does. He, this video of him doing it. No, no, no, he definitely has.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  That's like saying I played laser tag.

• 30:42Joe Rogan?

  He definitely bow hunts pigs. He lives, he lives on an island, he has an island in Kauai that's infested with wild pigs. He, no, he does hunt them, I've seen videos of him doing it.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  I've seen.

• 30:53Joe Rogan?

  It's just, someone gives him a bow, he doesn't look at it, he doesn't care. Somebody teaches him how to shoot, he's, he doesn't know what release he has. If I said, what do you have? You have a stand? You have a wise guy? What do you have? What do you have? Do you use a hinge? Do you have a knock to it?

• 31:06Speaker 03

  By the very part, you can tell, like, if you're gonna talk bows with Joe, or, or pool, or even cars, you better come correct. So I just know when he goes.

• 31:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Chime. And I know people don't usually get excited about banking, but Chime is doing something different and it's worth paying attention to. In a recent survey, they ranked the number one choice for new checking accounts in America. That means real people, millions of them, are choosing this over traditional banks. That's because banking at Chime is fee-free. No monthly fees, no overdraft fees, and thousands of fee-free ATMs. But here's the real kicker. If you get their Chime card, it gives you 5% cash back on a category you actually pick yourself. Your savings rate, crazy high, it's nine times the national average. They're calling it the most rewarding way to bank.

• 31:56Joe Rogan?

  Go to chime.com/rogan. Takes a few minutes to sign up. Chime is a fintech, not a bank, banking services and Chime card, provided by Chime's bank partners. Terms and limits apply. Go to chime.com/disclosures for more details.

• 32:14Joe Rogan?

  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Look, it's good to prepare for the future, but when you start over analyzing what's happening around you, dreaming up every hypothetical situation of what could happen, that's when it gets dangerous. You can start to hyperfixate and stress out and all over things that haven't even happened. That's no good for current you or future you. If you're struggling to stay in the present and out of your head, try talking with a quality therapist from BetterHelp. They have psychologists, family therapists, marriage counselors, social workers, and more. Whatever you need to work through, BetterHelp

• 32:57Joe Rogan?

  can match you with a seasoned professional with the specialty that you need. BetterHelp is now a network with more than 125 health plans with many copays as low as $15 for eligible members. And if you don't have eligible insurance or live outside the US, you can still get 20% off your first month. Sign up and get 20% off at betterhelp.com. That's better H E L P dot com.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  Bo Hunt, and I thought, oh buddy.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  But this is Zuckerberg 2.0, and I love it.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  He's doing testosterone, he's doing jiu-jitsu. I don't know if he's doing test. I hope he's doing test.

• 33:36Speaker 03

  I think he is.

• 33:37Joe Rogan?

  But he certainly looks a lot thicker.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  He looks great.

• 33:39Joe Rogan?

  When he came in, I was laughing at him. I'm like, your neck looks bigger. Look at your neck.

• 33:43Speaker 02

  Yes. He turned into a conservative.

• 33:45Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 33:46Speaker 03

  Well, it's convenient, yeah.

• 33:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, hard work makes you think that way. Hard work physically makes you like appreciate some masculine aspects of life.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Do I need a light?

• 33:56Speaker 01

  I'll tell you right now, if he fought Elon Musk and Elon Musk is sleeping on the jiu-jitsu, I know he's... Because sometimes when you hear Elon Musk talking about the fighting, you're like, oh shit, stick to the fucking rockets, buddy. I don't want to see either of them.

• 34:09Joe Rogan?

  When you're that witch. This fight is heating up, kids. These guys are going...

• 34:13Speaker 01

  Elon has some wide hips, though.

• 34:15Joe Rogan?

  He's a big fella.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Oh, Jesus. He looks like Trump.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  He looks like warm cheese. You see him with his shirt off? God bless. I love him.

• 34:22Joe Rogan?

  He's a lot thinner now. He got on that Ozempic, son.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  Dude, everybody's... What is with that shit?

• 34:27Speaker 02

  He's got... His skin is so white. I've seen darker clouds.

• 34:31Speaker 01

  But what?

• 34:31Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's a little bit of a cheat code because what it does is it makes you not hungry. And so people don't eat as much and you go into calorie deficit, but you could do that on your own.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  They use it for addiction now.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  It's called discipline.

• 34:40Joe Rogan?

  It's a cheat code. People, but the best way to do it, if you want to do it on your own, just only eat meat.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  I swear to God, you'll lose a shit ton of weight.

• 34:48Speaker 01

  And feel good. Or get ulcerative colitis. It does wonders for my...

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Did you have that?

• 34:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got it. That's why I wasn't at dinner tonight.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  They're using Ozempic for addiction.

• 34:58Speaker 01

  My stomach's so...

• 34:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Ozempic's got a bunch of other uses too. And it's also like for diabetes.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Doesn't it stop addiction overall though? I heard people have like...

• 35:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, because it blocks the craving pathway.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. But what is it?

• 35:08Joe Rogan?

  It ruins your bones.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  There's gotta be... Does there any tests on it like in the long run?

• 35:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, the problem is anytime you go into calorie deficit, your body starts eating itself. So what people are losing is not just fat. They're losing muscle and bone density. So Peter Attia, who's a good friend of mine, did some studies on his patients that did it. And he found that even when they lost weight, they got fatter. So they actually gained more fat and they lost muscle and bone mass.

• 35:34Speaker 01

  Ah, you know what that... You want to be weaker.

• 35:36Joe Rogan?

  But this is what I think. I think were those people lifting weights while they were on that stuff? Here's the thing. I feel like you gotta do something to mitigate the fact that you're... And also, just you can't... You gotta be rational. You can't like just try to starve yourself into thinness because you're gonna fuck your organs up. It's not good. You... What you really should do is make sure you consume enough calories to support any kind of physical exercise you're doing. And then make sure you do physical exercise while you're also taking that stuff. And maybe then you can keep some muscle and bone mass.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  That takes discipline. They want to just take the shot and get skinny and lean.

• 36:09Joe Rogan?

  People do get skinny though. It works.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  It works.

• 36:12Speaker 01

  And it sucks being a fat guy.

• 36:13Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 36:14Speaker 01

  But how fat were you then? How about this? Like right now, I'm buck eighty-five.

• 36:19Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  What? See my... Oh, okay.

• 36:21Joe Rogan?

  You're good, bro.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  No, I think you have to see my...

• 36:23Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 36:23Speaker 01

  Oh, no, he has to see that. Listen to me, no but.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  Let me get my hand on my.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  When I was a fatty, I was up to 230 and I'm 5'6". When you're, listen, if you got fat, you'd be like, oh, Brendan's a little husky.

• 36:35Joe Rogan?

  I've been fat.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  When you're my height, I'm pointing to Joe too, he's taller than me though.

• 36:39Joe Rogan?

  230 is a lot.

• 36:40Speaker 01

  Dude, I was heavy.

• 36:41Joe Rogan?

  That must have hurt your joints. Did that hurt your joints?

• 36:44Speaker 01

  Ah, not so much my joints, it's just I felt like a fucking fat guy.

• 36:48Speaker 02

  What do you eat?

• 36:50Joe Rogan?

  Your lower back didn't fuck with you or nothing?

• 36:52Speaker 01

  Well, my lower back went out at one point and I'm sure that didn't help it, you know? But I was, and then I got on TRT, but I was still heavy because I'd be eating like a fucking pig. But this goes back to the trick thing because I didn't want to sound like a bully. The only reason I fuck with that guy still is because after I knocked him out years later, then I got fat. He called me up one time looking for Ally Akwente's number. So I go, oh sure, I gave it to him. He had Al on the show. When Al was getting off, he goes, hey, tell the beer keg I said hello. So I don't forget shit like that. I don't forget it.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  I like that.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  Now that he's a fat guy and I'm in shape, I'm gonna take a shot at him.

• 37:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jake Matthews just landed a good right hand.

• 37:31Speaker 01

  I hope he goes for a fucking takedown, man.

• 37:33Joe Rogan?

  You really like, did you just do that much, Matt?

• 37:36Speaker 01

  I've seen, I, I know he has it. So like, why, this guy.

• 37:39Joe Rogan?

  Why not use it? I think he's doing really well on the feet, that's why. He wants to get a KO.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  But Ally Akwente, people forget was the, the, Khabib couldn't take him down.

• 37:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, Al was a short notice for Khabib, even, but still, a short notice for Al. I know it's a different fight for Khabib, but he struggled in that fight. Al had his moments. Al did a good job defending, taking.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  He was also set to fight Paul Felder. So he was about to fight a totally different fight.

• 38:02Joe Rogan?

  Totally different.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  24 hours notice, he did the, he had the best fight with Khabib that anybody ever had. It's amazing.

• 38:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he did. He didn't get dominated. He lost the fight, but he didn't get dominated like a lot like Connor did or a lot of other guys did. He got smashed. Connor had some success too in that though, too.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  He did.

• 38:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if you watch it again, like you think he has ass whooped, yeah, you're like, damn.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  He did better against Khabib almost than anybody else for a while.

• 38:23Speaker 01

  Connor?

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, and his camp was atrocious that time.

• 38:27Joe Rogan?

  It was?

• 38:28Speaker 03

  Bad camp, yeah.

• 38:28Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 38:29Speaker 03

  His trainer talks about it, just it was like a dark camp, he wasn't training with the team, he's like, in his head about, he was like it was a dark camp, it's horrible.

• 38:36Joe Rogan?

  This is post Floyd.

• 38:38Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 38:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a problem too, right? You get ready for a boxing match with one of the all-time greats, you gotta take six months where you're not doing any takedowns, no leg kicks, no nothing, all you're doing is boxing.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Bad idea.

• 38:49Joe Rogan?

  You're not gonna take any extra energy and train your fucking jiu-jitsu when you're training for a Floyd Mayweather boxing fight.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  And you got Khabib, the greatest grappler we've seen out there, waiting for you. It's a terrible idea.

• 38:58Joe Rogan?

  When he's on top of him going, "Let's talk now."

• 39:00Speaker 03

  Now, the other side is you made a ton of money.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  Did you hear it? You were right, you were there for that fight, yeah?

• 39:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, who was it that said, someone said recently that I think if the Conor McGregor, who beat Eddie Alvarez, faced Khabib, it would've been a completely different fight.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  I'd probably said that.

• 39:16Joe Rogan?

  I don't remember who it was, but I listened to that and I said, "You know what? I think that's true."

• 39:20Speaker 02

  How do you solve that?

• 39:21Joe Rogan?

  I think he was a different guy. But I think he was a different guy, he was a fucking animal.

• 39:25Speaker 03

  Space management.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  I think it was Kevin.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but your wrestling...

• 39:28Speaker 01

  I'm fucking around, that's coach.

• 39:31Speaker 02

  Khabib's wrestling doesn't care about that. And once he closed distance, it'd be a problem for Conor.

• 39:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's always gonna be a problem, but Conor was so fucking good on his feet back then.

• 39:40Speaker 03

  So good. So elusive, too.

• 39:42Speaker 01

  I like the clips of him getting interviewed back in the day, saying, "Partying is weakness for your soul." And then there's clips now of him being like, "Nah, he's fucking all pumped up."

• 39:52Speaker 03

  The ship has sailed, it's like, "We want him to come back, it ain't happening."

• 39:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, he knows too, Jimmy.

• 39:56Speaker 03

  Of course he knows.

• 39:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, Jake Matthews is walking this thing down.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  Jake's getting him out of there.

• 40:01Speaker 03

  He's always put on this, if you're the first fight on the main card, you're there to finish.

• 40:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, he's trying to make a name for himself and he's in Australia, you know, home country, the whole deal.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Prado's in this.

• 40:11Joe Rogan?

  That's where he's from, right? And he from?

• 40:13Speaker 03

  I think he is.

• 40:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have to have your hometown boys when you have a fight on a card in the motherland.

• 40:21Speaker 03

  That's why poor Strickland, going back there.

• 40:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but Strick is from South Africa, it's like it's kinda neutral ground.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  It's same area, that's hilarious. Same area. Oh yeah, it's just different continent, but you know what I mean?

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Totally close. Closer than fucking Vegas where Strickland is.

• 40:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, not much.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  I just re-watched that one.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  That's gotta be a bitch though, Matt, do you ever fight, do you ever fight and have to get ready for it?

• 40:43Speaker 03

  Hold on, B, how'd you score it?

• 40:46Speaker 01

  It was so close.

• 40:47Speaker 03

  Cause I gave it Strickland.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  I, was that, you gave it to Strickland?

• 40:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  It was, I, I mean, how much do you, the takedowns, what do you, how much do you give for the takedowns? He didn't do no, I don't think he got struck at all in the fight. So it's like.

• 40:58Speaker 03

  How do you score those?

• 40:59Speaker 01

  Uh, I thought Strickland won. I thought he won three to two, but it was very, I mean, it's all how you, the other, I'll tell you though, Drake is, does, he mixes in those takedowns and I think that could sway some judges. They see big, they see big moments instead of the whole round.

• 41:15Speaker 03

  He's a big dude too.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  He also pushes forward, so, you remember, Strickland's the one who pushes forward always.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  He's got.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  And, and, um.

• 41:22Speaker 03

  But octagon control when you, when you, when you go through the judges last.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  No, I understand, but, but the thing about Drake is he's gonna be moving forward always and, and I think, uh, Sean is used to moving forward himself, so he's gonna be fighting on his back foot.

• 41:35Speaker 03

  But then also, Strickland's not getting points because his defense is so good. He's, he's blocking a lot of shots, but it looks like they're landing, but he's actually blocking.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  He rolls good with that Philly shell, but how much did that cut? How much did that affect him? If that happened early on, he said he was a one-eyed guy early on.

• 41:50Speaker 03

  He talked about it.

• 41:51Joe Rogan?

  Plus the judges see that, that's damage, that's in the ones judging criteria. What, what, what did, what caused that, that, uh, cut?

• 41:57Speaker 03

  A headbutt, they said, right?

• 41:58Joe Rogan?

  Was it a headbutt or a punch?

• 41:59Speaker 03

  Yes. I thought it was a headbutt.

• 42:00Joe Rogan?

  It was a great fight though. It was still a very good fight.

• 42:03Speaker 03

  People that say it's boring, I'm like, man, I thought it was great.

• 42:06Joe Rogan?

  It was a high level, very high level.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  I'd imagine Duplessis, you're hard to get ready because you can't find anybody who spars like that.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  Can't mimic him.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  Right? It's like, he almost fights like a drunk guy in a bar.

• 42:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, like, bro, Asuka, good luck getting ready for that.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Fuck, that was awesome. His last fight with Asuka.

• 42:19Joe Rogan?

  God.

• 42:20Speaker 01

  He puts him, he like trusts his like spider sense. He goes right in front, he's like, shh, and he just goes in. It's crazy, man.

• 42:28Joe Rogan?

  And his head movement has gotten so much better and those counters, those pull counters. He hit him with a couple of pull left hands and then a right hook counter after that. Oh my goodness. It was blah, blah. He was like, duck the punch, blah, blah.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  What do you do with Yuri though? You know?

• 42:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's like one more and then maybe tries Alex again.

• 42:48Speaker 03

  I got one for you. What about Robert Whitaker at 205? Yuri, Robert Whitaker, Yuri.

• 42:52Joe Rogan?

  Is that what Robert wants to do? He wants to go to 205?

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Really?

• 42:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That's crazy for a guy to start at 170.

• 42:58Speaker 01

  At 170?

• 42:58Speaker 03

  That's tough.

• 42:59Speaker 01

  You've said it's tougher to make 85.

• 43:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's bigger now.

• 43:03Speaker 03

  Robert Whitaker's fucking thick.

• 43:05Speaker 02

  Imagine.

• 43:06Joe Rogan?

  I mean, we've seen it before. What about Rumble? Rumble starts at 170, moves up to heavyweight.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  I was doing, I was doing Warrior with him. He was 230 on set, 230 and not fat. He sucked down to 170.

• 43:17Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he was so big. I ran into him in a hotel once. I'm like, how the fuck are you ever 170? He was so big. His shoulders were as wide as a barn.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  And he sucked down to 170.

• 43:27Joe Rogan?

  And he, and he didn't have an ounce of fat on him. That's what was crazy.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  He's walking around 235.

• 43:31Speaker 03

  Can't be healthy. That should be illegal.

• 43:33Joe Rogan?

  But when he would get in there, oh my god, he would hit guys. They would just go flying.

• 43:37Speaker 02

  What did he die of?

• 43:38Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. He had some sort of organ failure.

• 43:40Speaker 03

  He has an organ failure.

• 43:42Joe Rogan?

  Some organ thing.

• 43:43Speaker 03

  Tragic.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  What is that, ALP? What is that?

• 43:45Joe Rogan?

  That's one of them, uh, this is Tucker Carlson's nicotine pouch.

• 43:48Speaker 01

  Oh, he's got his own thing?

• 43:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's Tucker's. They're good. They're really good.

• 43:53Speaker 01

  Are they?

• 43:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're very good. Well, the, the people from Zen didn't like him, apparently.

• 43:57Speaker 01

  Oh, is that what happened?

• 43:58Joe Rogan?

  He, he said something joking around that'll make your dick grow. Just playing around. And they, and they said something about, you know.

• 44:04Speaker 01

  I don't fuck with Zen either.

• 44:05Joe Rogan?

  We don't think that. And don't, don't, we don't agree with what he said. It's not true. Like, duh, duh. Nobody really thinks it makes your dick grow.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  I didn't fuck with Zen before. I definitely don't know. Scott, why don't you?

• 44:15Joe Rogan?

  It's a corporation. Corporations are owned by, you know.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  You don't like the nicotine?

• 44:18Joe Rogan?

  They're run by people.

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Black Buffalo.

• 44:21Joe Rogan?

  Who don't want to be involved with anything controversial. And they probably thought that, that being involved with Tucker Carlson was controversial.

• 44:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. So he started his own thing?

• 44:29Joe Rogan?

  So he started his own thing. It's really good. They're, they're better.

• 44:31Speaker 03

  You ever seen Tucker drives like an old school F-100?

• 44:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because he doesn't want the government to have access to his GPS. No electronics. He's got a carburetor.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  That was like a.

• 44:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you're that guy, if you're doing two hour episodes about a guy who supposedly sucked Obama's dick.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  Dude, that was wild. I had to listen.

• 44:50Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 44:51Speaker 01

  I had to give it a go.

• 44:52Joe Rogan?

  You gotta be, you know, wa- watching your six.

• 44:57Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you're fucking, what did you do?

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Dude, that was a fight, man.

• 45:00Joe Rogan?

  That was a very good fight.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's got that though, Matthews, I think.

• 45:04Joe Rogan?

  I think so, too.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  He does, but Prado's badass motherfucker, man.

• 45:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was a good fight.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 45:08Joe Rogan?

  Jake's so good and tight.

• 45:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. Look at this though.

• 45:11Speaker 03

  There's the trip.

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Oh, there's the takedown.

• 45:13Joe Rogan?

  Tucker's way bigger now that he's on his own, yeah?

• 45:15Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, way bigger, way bigger.

• 45:17Speaker 02

  He's so good, he's undeniable, he's just...

• 45:19Joe Rogan?

  He's a super nice guy.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like, uh, I had a friend of mine had him on his podcast and he's, he has this lady who works with him that's like real liberal. And he said she didn't want to like him, but she loved him by the end of the show.

• 45:30Speaker 03

  He seems like a nice guy.

• 45:32Joe Rogan?

  He's a great guy.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  He knows exactly why he stands where he stands. Like, he's really thought out every position it feels.

• 45:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's not a liar.

• 45:38Speaker 03

  He was a little weird when he was on Fox, cause you know, he's pushing the agenda, but then when he went on his own, I'm like, I fuck with him.

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he was also fighting people who were...

• 45:45Joe Rogan?

  Towards the end of Fox, towards the end of his run, he was like the only guy on the news talking about real shit.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:50Joe Rogan?

  And, you know, and talking about things that were very controversial and people did not want him talking about.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  And that's why they fired him, right?

• 45:55Joe Rogan?

  They fired him when he was at the top. That's what's crazy. He was the number one guy on Fox.

• 46:00Speaker 02

  That was the Dominion shit though.

• 46:01Joe Rogan?

  By, it was a lot of different things. There was multiple different, I mean, it was, no one was happy.

• 46:06Speaker 03

  They're right, both are right. Fox and CNN ratings suck, cock, find a kid gets more views.

• 46:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's, at this point, it's a weird medium because there's too many commercials. You have to watch it at the time that it's on.

• 46:17Speaker 03

  That's how they make money, through all the advertising, and it's all pharmaceutical companies.

• 46:21Joe Rogan?

  It's just too hard to compete with the internet when you have that hindering format.

• 46:26Speaker 03

  But also the news on there, it comes out way faster than on fucking mainstream news.

• 46:31Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, they're, they're good for like people that have, you know, editorial talk and breaking things down in a funny way and showing you clips of people going nutty and... And you know, it's, they're good for, for certain things that's different than the internet and then they put clips of those things, those things, you know, it's kind of like it's become almost like a viral internet show. Cause each one of them, like the 15 minute ones, when they put them out, you know, those get a lot of views, probably more than they even get on television. It's weird because it's like... Regular television is bullshit. Nobody wants to watch it. Nobody wants to watch a regular TV.

• 47:09Speaker 03

  You also don't trust it anymore. You just don't trust any of them.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  They even have sitcoms anymore, like new ones and shit?

• 47:14Joe Rogan?

  You know, honestly. Ms. Pat is a really good one, but it's on BET's app.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  She's great.

• 47:18Joe Rogan?

  She's great. Um, but other than that, I don't know anybody who has a sitcom.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  I like, uh, I like Tyres with, with Shane Gillis.

• 47:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's great. That's kind of a sitcom. I mean, it's a single camera.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a show.

• 47:28Joe Rogan?

  But it's a, yeah, it's a comedy show.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  What's that on? Is that on Netflix?

• 47:32Joe Rogan?

  It's funny. Oh, it's on Netflix.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  Netflix, got it.

• 47:33Joe Rogan?

  They got season two coming.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  Oh, that's gonna be great.

• 47:36Speaker 02

  It's all changed so much, man.

• 47:37Speaker 01

  That's a, that's an enjoyable show.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  His business has changed.

• 47:39Joe Rogan?

  Changed the man.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  Phil and David Spade are doing a sitcom, right?

• 47:43Speaker 02

  I think they're doing a movie.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  There's some funny shit coming back. Even that, the, the, um, the heavy, I don't want to say the heavy set Greek guy, but I don't, I forgot his name. He's on your show.

• 47:52Speaker 02

  Stavros.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Yes, he has a.

• 47:54Joe Rogan?

  Stavros is the man.

• 47:54Speaker 01

  Uh, start, let's start a cult. It's a good fucking, you see it?

• 47:58Speaker 02

  No.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Oh, it's fucking funny. Oh, it's like, it's a throwback. It's like a, it's one of those stupid, silly comedies. It was good, really good.

• 48:05Joe Rogan?

  He's a funny dude.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  To your point, there's not a lot, is there?

• 48:08Speaker 01

  There's not, dude.

• 48:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, it used to be the whole thing. It used to be the whole thing on television was getting a sitcom. There's Stavros.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  This is great. I love this.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  I never saw it.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  It's good. It's on, I got, I bought it on Prime. I.

• 48:20Joe Rogan?

  It's on Hulu.

• 48:21Speaker 01

  I think I got it if I saw it maybe on here or somewhere.

• 48:24Joe Rogan?

  Ah, Stavros.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  This was great. This is a funny movie. This is a funny, a funny show, a funny movie.

• 48:29Joe Rogan?

  He's just a fun.

• 48:30Speaker 01

  Cause it's not trying to push a fucking, it's a movie. It's not giving a message. He's, he, he, dude, he's showing his balls. It's fucking, it's fucking funny. It's just a funny. I don't want to get the, any messages delivered to me. I just want to have a good time.

• 48:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a funny dude. Yeah, I don't need that. I don't need you. Can't, don't give me a message.

• 48:48Speaker 03

  I only watch documentaries really.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Like, I, I, any, OJ doc.

• 48:52Speaker 03

  Make more.

• 48:53Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you know what's good? You know what you like? Nosferato. Have you seen Nosferato?

• 48:56Speaker 01

  I watched it. I thought it was alright. I listened to your recommendation. It's a movie?

• 49:01Joe Rogan?

  People love it too. The best vampire movie of all time.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  What'd you think of American Prime?

• 49:05Speaker 01

  Oh, I liked it.

• 49:06Joe Rogan?

  It's great.

• 49:06Speaker 01

  I told, I, I.

• 49:07Joe Rogan?

  Fucking great.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Early on, I told you to watch that. That was fucking good, man.

• 49:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a great show.

• 49:11Speaker 01

  It reminds you of like the, the, the, um, the one with Leonardo DiCaprio.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  The Reverend.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 49:16Joe Rogan?

  I just can't stand here while Brendan Shaw was disrespecting Nosferatu.

• 49:19Speaker 01

  You know why? You know?

• 49:20Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Because if, if we're gonna discuss it, it's gonna be a spoiler. How he dies in the end?

• 49:26Speaker 02

  Ah.

• 49:26Speaker 01

  Just lays down with the chick in the sun?

• 49:29Speaker 02

  They had a pact, she'd give herself to him.

• 49:31Joe Rogan?

  Bro, you gotta die sometimes.

• 49:32Speaker 01

  Wait, is this a remake of the, the old movie?

• 49:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the old one. Yeah, but it's got a lot, a lot of different shit going on in it. But the, the dude who plays Nosferatu is the same dude who played it. He played Pennywise in it. He's, it's really wild.

• 49:44Speaker 02

  You know what's a, you know what's a good show?

• 49:45Joe Rogan?

  Best vampire of all time.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Scars, what, Scars, something?

• 49:48Joe Rogan?

  Bill Skarsgård.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  You see the old man? Jeff Bridges?

• 49:51Joe Rogan?

  It's good for one episode.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  I only saw the first episode.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  That's it, man. I got, I fell off of it.

• 49:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it gets, it's really good for one episode. You're like, wow, can they keep this going? And then it gets stupid.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  Oh, it does?

• 50:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they get stupid. They're like, wait a minute, if they would track you, this is stupid.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  Hey, that, that American primeval.

• 50:05Joe Rogan?

  They can find you. You can't drive across the country. Shut the fuck, she's not gonna fall in love with you. You kidnapped her. This is retarded.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  Hey, that American primeval, so is there a season two? Or is it just done?

• 50:15Speaker 02

  No, it's done. Peter Burke can make a fucking movie and a TV.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 50:19Joe Rogan?

  He made Painkiller. He made Painkiller.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's a beast.

• 50:22Joe Rogan?

  The Sackler, Sackler family thing on Netflix?

• 50:24Speaker 02

  Why is Sackler's not, um, on some island somewhere?

• 50:27Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  Penal fucking colony for mass murderers.

• 50:30Joe Rogan?

  Let's, let's see what happens now with Trump in. Let's see what happens.

• 50:33Speaker 02

  They're the worst people on the planet.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  Speaking of series, before we get off series, man, cause I love this shit. Silo, I'm watching now, which is fucking great. I'm on the second season. I love fi- finding something late, so there's like two seasons, I get excited. And even better, Grant Dawson, UFC fighter Grant Dawson, bigger nerd than me. He gives me all shit to watch. Uh, From. Oh, fuck! From, bro!

• 50:57Joe Rogan?

  What's From?

• 50:58Speaker 01

  That's the whitest fucking handshake we've ever did.

• 51:01Joe Rogan?

  That was so white, dude.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  Ah, we tried to do Alvin and Sterling, we were fucking.

• 51:04Joe Rogan?

  So good.

• 51:05Speaker 01

  You watching it? What do you want to do?

• 51:07Joe Rogan?

  I'm finished it, bro.

• 51:08Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm on the first season.

• 51:09Joe Rogan?

  What is it?

• 51:09Speaker 02

  You got such a far way to go.

• 51:11Speaker 01

  It's, you wanna explain it?

• 51:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's the dude from Lost.

• 51:15Speaker 01

  It is so good. It's almost like a Twilight Zone type of episode.

• 51:18Speaker 03

  They're trapped in a town, they cannot leave, and at night, these demons come out and kill everyone, so they have to hide at night.

• 51:24Speaker 01

  They got, monsters come out at night.

• 51:26Speaker 03

  Monsters.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  Demons.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  So they got, uh, what do the monsters look like?

• 51:29Speaker 01

  People.

• 51:30Speaker 03

  What, they look like people?

• 51:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, without giving too much, like the first episode, there's a little girl, and all of a sudden at the window, it's grandma.

• 51:37Speaker 03

  Cause they can't come in the house.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  They can't come in.

• 51:39Speaker 03

  So they try to get the kids to let them in the house.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  And they, and they, yeah, and then, but they devour them, and you can't fight them, you can't shoot them, they rip you apart.

• 51:47Speaker 03

  They're, what are they?

• 51:49Speaker 01

  They're just, that's the thing, it's almost like a Lost type of show, like, you're like, wait, what the fuck are they, how'd they get there? They were all traveling on different parts, I don't wanna give too much away, but.

• 51:59Speaker 03

  You know what, it's hard to explain.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  It is hard to explain.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  It's very complicated.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  What's it on?

• 52:03Speaker 01

  So, I bought it on Prime.

• 52:05Speaker 03

  I, I bought it on, uh, Apple, the first season on Apple.

• 52:09Speaker 01

  That's right, Apple, I think. Yeah. Oh, so good.

• 52:12Speaker 03

  Season three?

• 52:14Speaker 01

  I'm on, I'm on the first season, I'm almost done with it.

• 52:16Speaker 03

  Jesus, it's got three fucking seasons?

• 52:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, three seasons, it's fantastic.

• 52:19Speaker 03

  Believable and scary as hell, Stephen King.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  Balls deep in it, man, I like it.

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Damn, I'm in, I'm in.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's great.

• 52:26Speaker 03

  I'm gonna write it down.

• 52:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's, it's worth.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  This fight was epic. Fucking Gaslim and, uh.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  Oh, best man to wait for of all time.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  I'm prepared to die. That's what he said there. Fucking badass.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  Best man to wait for of all time.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Why do all black guys like anime?

• 52:41Speaker 03

  That's not true.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Not all black guys, but most people.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  That's just generalizing, I've never met a black guy in my life who likes anime.

• 52:49Speaker 03

  Me neither.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Wait, you've never met, you've never met a black guy in your life?

• 52:51Speaker 03

  I haven't either.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  Not one, not one.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 52:53Speaker 03

  This is the only one I know.

• 52:55Speaker 01

  Really?

• 52:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  I'm thinking my, my student Marcus, my brother-in-law Edwin, they lo, I mean, I don't know, I could, I can go on.

• 53:03Speaker 03

  Is it a younger kid?

• 53:04Speaker 01

  I don't know, I don't know, who is it? I, no, man, Edwin's, you know, shit.

• 53:08Speaker 03

  Forty?

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's forty, uh.

• 53:10Speaker 03

  That's weird.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Or something, yeah, I don't know. Not all black, I don't want, let me just.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  Not all black guys.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  Black guys, they have something with anime.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  Like anime.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  You know?

• 53:21Speaker 03

  It's, it took the place of Kung Fu movies.

• 53:23Speaker 01

  Is that what it is?

• 53:24Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  NFL players are arguing over their favorite anime show.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Are they really? What is it?

• 53:29Speaker 03

  NFL players.

• 53:32Speaker 02

  The first hundred. I just passed four hundred and two hundred and I was like, oh, it's all animation. My daughter was into anime, it's like, hard.

• 53:40Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 53:41Speaker 01

  I can't get into it. Yo, I had my one fighter, young Marcus, he was down two rounds, and I went in in the third round. I know he loves anime. I go, Marcus, forget that shit. You'll live in your anime movie and you're the fucking hero! And I fucking went nuts and he's like, yeah, yeah! He went out and fucking strangled the guy in all his way. I go, dude, come on, man. Black star.

• 54:04Speaker 03

  Well, let me see that letter, Joe.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  Thanks, brother.

• 54:07Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 54:08Joe Rogan?

  That's weird that that worked.

• 54:12Speaker 01

  Like a big kid. What? What did I do?

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Look at Izzy right there.

• 54:17Joe Rogan?

  I thought you were gonna say he went out and got knocked out or something. Oh, he's a Hall of Fame inductee. Fight Wing, the Kelvin Gaslim fight. Oh my god. Fuck, yeah, that's well worth one of the greatest fights of all time. Look at that jacket.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  Oh, what's going on? He just getting inducted into the...

• 54:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for the Kelvin Gaslim fight.

• 54:38Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 54:38Joe Rogan?

  Rightfully so. Yeah, rightfully so. That's, that was an amazing fight.

• 54:41Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 54:43Joe Rogan?

  That was one of the greatest all-time fights.

• 54:45Speaker 02

  Gaslim, Gaslim.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  Let me work this motherfucker.

• 54:47Speaker 02

  One of those.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Oh, here you go.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  I'm tarding!

• 54:56Speaker 02

  Tard is a lot.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Hey, can I have something where you just go like this? I'm fucking around.

• 55:01Joe Rogan?

  Is it working?

• 55:01Speaker 01

  Nah, I don't know. Dude, I'd listen.

• 55:03Joe Rogan?

  Is it out of juice?

• 55:04Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 55:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's out of juice.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  Oh, here.

• 55:05Speaker 01

  Oh, there you go. Thank god. I thought I was just a moron.

• 55:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's something in there. It's in the bottom, it's a little hole.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  Where's your school, Matt?

• 55:13Speaker 01

  Uh, Huntington, Long Island.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, man.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 55:18Speaker 01

  I met you in, in like ninety-eight.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  Ninety-six, probably.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  Ninety-six, yeah, when you were on Mad TV.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  The Crazy Ku Kuk Academy.

• 55:26Joe Rogan?

  That's when I got my, uh, blue belt from Hansel. Matt, remember when I met you? We, we, we went to your gym. It was like you picked this up. You picked this up at the train station.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, you had a gig. I was gonna fight BJ Penn. I was leaving that night, I think, to go drive to Connecticut.

• 55:43Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 55:44Speaker 01

  And you had a gig somewhere. I picked you and Eddie Bravo up at the Hicksville train station.

• 55:47Joe Rogan?

  Yep. We took a train from the city out to Long Island, went to Matt's gym. It was awesome.

• 55:53Speaker 01

  I showed you my apartment in the basement.

• 55:55Joe Rogan?

  Yes, where you pissed into the bucket every night. And he was, he was drinking so much water and, because he was training and living in the gym. He had an apartment in the gym and he had a big old piss bucket. So you take a jug, like a gallon jug, and stick his dick in it and put it right and screw it back on so he didn't have to get out of bed.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  You know, you don't want to get up and, it was the best.

• 56:14Joe Rogan?

  I piss in the sink.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  I did that for so long that I, if, if, even when I got married, I'd be doing it. Then finally, my wife just says, listen, I'm done. You gotta, I'm done with that shit.

• 56:25Joe Rogan?

  I can't do this anymore.

• 56:26Speaker 01

  And I'm like, alright.

• 56:27Joe Rogan?

  Pissing in a jug next to the bed.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Also, just be hearing the fucking, hitting the fucking Snapple bottle. One time, my mother-in-law was over. One time she was helping her clean the room. She's like, why is that the, the Snapple? She's like, put it down! Put it down! But, uh, yeah, man, I don't do that no more.

• 56:46Joe Rogan?

  I don't do that no more.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  But fucking, yeah, I'll never forget, man.

• 56:51Joe Rogan?

  That was like a awesome thing to see, though. Such dedication. You were living in the gym. He just had a bedroom there. He's like, all I'm doing is just training. Just constant training, living here, teaching and training.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  I get flashbacks now of that now, because sometimes like on Mondays, I'll do the 7 a.m. and I'll do the noon also before I go home and do Unfiltered with Jimmy. So I'll take a nap in my lounge and he brings me like flashbacks of, between classes of like when I was younger. And I, you know what I mean? But now I got my, my castle and shit.

• 57:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, how about John Donner? Fucking used to sleep on the mats.

• 57:21Speaker 01

  He probably still is.

• 57:22Joe Rogan?

  The guy was a professor at Columbia. John, John would be, I mean, he was working on his PhD.

• 57:27Speaker 01

  Did John come out here?

• 57:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's out here. He was one of the first guys. I talked him into it like way back in the day. Middle of the pandemic. They were in Puerto Rico. I was like, get out of there where you can.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  He's got a great sense of humor, too.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Oh, John's great.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  People don't know about him.

• 57:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, he's a little twisted.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  Literally, literally for a long time, like, they'd say, like, if you were like, how you doing? He'd go, go fuck yourself.

• 57:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  Oh, no, he's hysterical.

• 57:48Joe Rogan?

  Legit genius.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  Always in a fucking rash guard, no matter what.

• 57:51Joe Rogan?

  Suffers no fools.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  No.

• 57:53Joe Rogan?

  He's not, he's not here to suffer fools. Yeah. Fascinating guy, too. I mean, you want to talk about a cheat code that Gordon Ryan has, and he talks about it all the time. He's like, you have a guy who's got, like, maybe the greatest mind ever in combat sports.

• 58:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:05Joe Rogan?

  And he's your coach.

• 58:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:07Joe Rogan?

  And he's, he doesn't give a fuck about anything else. When he's not teaching, he's studying tape. He studies tape all day long. He's just a robot.

• 58:13Speaker 01

  He's a minimalist, too, right?

• 58:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  Dude, Hensler was like, sometimes the guy come in, his head is down, he's just feeling like, he's too deep, man, he's too deep. Always talking about philosophy, his head is all like that. Some days you can't talk to the guy.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  I'm like, what do you mean? He's too deep. The guy's too smart for everybody.

• 58:31Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it crazy, too, that, like, one thing that was said to him, one that Dean Lister said to him once, why would you ignore 50% of the human body?

• 58:38Speaker 01

  And he's like... That's, that's when he was staying on my futon, Dean.

• 58:41Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 58:42Speaker 01

  He was staying with me and Rodrigo Gracie at our apartment in Woodmere. And I brought him into the city. I met him in the 2000, uh, pro-am's. We both competed. He competed versus Mark Lehman. I went versus Leo Vera and him. And we became friendly with that. And then I had him down. He was training at Longos. He was staying on my futon. And I'd bring him into the city. And that's when he met John.

• 59:03Speaker 02

  But I, back then, nobody was, like, at least in head shows, nobody was really working ankle locks.

• 59:08Speaker 01

  No, no. He took, he took out most of the academies with that. He was in there taking out their legs.

• 59:13Joe Rogan?

  When Dean was in his prime, he was a fucking monster. Dean Lister, Dean Lister was a monster. He was so hard to deal with.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  About as thick as a silverback, too.

• 59:21Joe Rogan?

  And he was obsessed with jiu-jitsu. You know, you know, Jaco trained with him, and Jaco said, look, he's got a fucking mind, like a steel trap for jiu-jitsu. It was like positions and counters and moves. It's like, always, like, you have to be fucking psychotic and obsessed.

• 59:35Speaker 02

  It's like chess.

• 59:35Joe Rogan?

  It's just how long can you do it for?

• 59:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:38Joe Rogan?

  Right? And then he... He started fighting in the UFC and when he was fighting in the UFC, he wasn't a striker. He didn't have striking. It wasn't, it just wasn't good enough to, to hang with the best guys. Cause like on the feet, he'd be at such a disadvantage.

• 59:50Speaker 01

  Liability.

• 59:51Joe Rogan?

  And it's so hard to get guys down. It's hard. But when it came to like straight jiu jitsu, Dean Lister was a fucking monster.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  Oh, he was great. Yeah.

• 59:59Joe Rogan?

  He was so good and he got big.

• 1:00:04Speaker 01

  You remember Jeff Monson?

• 1:00:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh my God.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  Is he, is he, is he live in Russia now?

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  Yes, he does.

• 1:00:08Joe Rogan?

  Yes. He lives in Russia. He's married to a Russian. He speaks Russian.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  Remember that tattoo on his back?

• 1:00:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Remember there's that picture of him and the, against the fucking SWAT team?

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Joe Rogan?

  He's like protesting.

• 1:00:18Speaker 02

  I think he's a communist, right?

• 1:00:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Full on. Yeah. He's out of Russia.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  He's a Russian, bro.

• 1:00:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Like, he's like all in. He's all in with Mother Russia. He always wanted to be a Russian.

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  He's not a guy you want to get into conflict with. He's an odd dude, man.

• 1:00:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, fuck, yeah, he is.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  He's smart.

• 1:00:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  Well, smart.

• 1:00:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He was also built like a grape.

• 1:00:40Joe Rogan?

  He was like one gigantic muscle.

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  Built like a grape.

• 1:00:43Joe Rogan?

  There was just a grape with giant arms. He was a tank. Yeah, definitely not, but I'll tell you what, formidable. And he would, he was one of the first guys to do north, south chokes.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:00:53Joe Rogan?

  And because he was so strong, people assumed that it was a goon move.

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  Look at him.

• 1:00:57Joe Rogan?

  That it was just, he would just grab your neck and squeeze it. And then people realized like, no, it's basically like a guillotine from a different position.

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. He's a badass.

• 1:01:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh my God, look at the size of him.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  That's so insane.

• 1:01:06Joe Rogan?

  That was when he's at full juicy juice.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  He looks, he looks great. Listen.

• 1:01:10Joe Rogan?

  Find that picture of him in the riots. Good fucking like, and you can tell the guy, the riot guys like, what the fuck?

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  He's a cartoon. Look at him.

• 1:01:16Joe Rogan?

  He's standing there with his fucking. Hammer and sickle tattoo.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  Monster.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Guys with big chests that north, south. My father was, used to be good at that. My father was a, is a black belt on the Henzo.

• 1:01:27Joe Rogan?

  Just some other guys and then get the choke as well.

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  He was a, he was a.

• 1:01:29Joe Rogan?

  There it is.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  Was he an NCAA champ or he was an internationalist?

• 1:01:32Joe Rogan?

  His, his Twitter. Yeah. And it's like capitalism. He's got a guy with a gun to another guy's head. It says capitalism. He's standing in front of these riot guys.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Who took the picture? How tall is the person that took the picture? Tim Sylvia.

• 1:01:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's obviously like an angle shot because he's not that tall, but it's a terrifying.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  He was a wrestler. He started as a wrestler, right? He wrestled, uh.

• 1:01:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah. He was an excellent wrestler. He, he was like very, very, very, very hard to beat in jiu jitsu too.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  How do you choke a guy? What do you do with that?

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  He's got no fucking neck.

• 1:02:01Joe Rogan?

  Strong too, just so strong. And fucking durable as shit as a fighter too. Remember we fought Chuck Liddell? Yeah, he was durable, man. Monson was a monster. Big fucking dude, man.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  There goes Jimmy Crew.

• 1:02:15Joe Rogan?

  And there we go. God, I swore that someone had said this was off the card. I think they lost three fights. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. If you're thinking about building a website, you should try Squarespace. I know because I use it. That's right. JoeRogan.com is powered by Squarespace. It has all the features that you need to create a standout website like an AI-enhanced website builder, SEO optimization tools, and seamless checkouts with mobile pay links. Head to Squarespace.com/Rogan for a free trial. And when you are ready to launch, use the offer code ROGEN to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

• 1:02:58Joe Rogan?

  This episode is brought to you by Chime. And I know people don't usually get excited about banking, but Chime is doing something different and it's worth paying attention to. In a recent survey, they ranked the number one choice for new checking accounts in America. That means real people, millions of them, are choosing this over traditional banks. That's because banking at Chime is fee-free. No monthly fees, no overdraft fees, and thousands of fee-free ATMs. But here's the real kicker. If you get their Chime card, it gives you 5% cash back on a category you actually pick yourself. Your savings rate, crazy high. It's nine times the national average. They're calling it the most rewarding way to bank. Go to chime.com/Rogan.

• 1:03:42Joe Rogan?

  Takes a few minutes to sign up. Chime is a fintech, not a bank. Banking services and Chime card provided by Chime's bank partners. Terms and limits apply. Go to chime.com/disclosures for more details.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  Mark Goddard is a sturdy individual.

• 1:04:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's a big fucker.

• 1:04:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:04Joe Rogan?

  He's a black belt.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 1:04:09Speaker 02

  Here we go. Oh, boy. He looks casual.

• 1:04:12Joe Rogan?

  Am I wrong in that Krut used to fight middleweight?

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  They're big boys, man. And look at that.

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  I think so, cuz.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  That haircut is fantastic.

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  I'm pretty sure he fought.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  That's aerodynamic.

• 1:04:22Joe Rogan?

  He looks thick.

• 1:04:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:23Joe Rogan?

  He looks thick.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  Looks like he's wearing Davy Crockett's hat. Look at that shit. There we go.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Jimmy Krut's been in some crazy wars.

• 1:04:33Speaker 03

  Balado.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  Oh, come on now.

• 1:04:38Speaker 03

  This one's not gonna last long.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  Ah, snap.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  It's that first, that first touch.

• 1:04:49Speaker 03

  I think you have heavyweights next, right? You got Tafa and the new kid who's undefeated?

• 1:04:54Joe Rogan?

  Man, the heavyweight division is so shallow. I was just thinking that the other day because if they don't make John Jones versus Tom Aspinall, what is compelling?

• 1:05:02Speaker 03

  Nothing.

• 1:05:03Joe Rogan?

  Unless they bring Francis back, unless the PFL collapses and, and he gets released.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a fuck up. That's a fuck up.

• 1:05:14Joe Rogan?

  Big fuck up.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  Oh, shit. It's like starting to fight from mount. Look at this.

• 1:05:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:20Speaker 02

  Oh, shit.

• 1:05:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's got the neck.

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  The only way he gets this is if he gives it to him. If he wants out.

• 1:05:26Joe Rogan?

  This is a terrible position for.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  Dude, how's your elbow escape doing, pal?

• 1:05:29Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  Come on, man. Get those hips moving.

• 1:05:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:05:36Joe Rogan?

  Early on, too.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  He's got a good top game, too.

• 1:05:39Speaker 03

  When he is visualizing his head before the fight, you probably didn't visualize this.

• 1:05:42Joe Rogan?

  No, good, good pressure there with that right bicep, too. Good pressure under the neck.

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  Hell of a tattoo. Hell of a fucking tattoo. Jeez, that thing, his arm looks.

• 1:05:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's sending some hard shots.

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  Oh, shit. Look at this. Get that smothering shoulder pressure. Smothering!

• 1:05:59Joe Rogan?

  Look at that arm triangle. Look at that arm triangle.

• 1:06:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's some good pressure. He could get his way to.

• 1:06:05Joe Rogan?

  These are hard fucking left hands, too, and they're not getting blocked. Like, he's getting some good power in this. He doesn't like it.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  Ooh, I don't think he's got any answers.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  It's called manicuring the target.

• 1:06:17Speaker 01

  Why don't you see the?

• 1:06:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, oh, he's going under. He's going under.

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  Uh, he's looking for fucking Kimura!

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:24Joe Rogan?

  He's looking for anything.

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  Oh, he's got good control though. He's controlling the hips.

• 1:06:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, phenomenal.

• 1:06:29Speaker 01

  He's spinning to the back after this shit.

• 1:06:30Joe Rogan?

  He might take a D'Arce, he might take a D'Arce.

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  Nah, yeah.

• 1:06:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, anaconda. Here he goes. Oh, here he goes.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Alright, alright.

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  The kid's aware.

• 1:06:39Speaker 01

  Let's see if Balado's got a guard.

• 1:06:40Joe Rogan?

  He's pummeled.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:41Joe Rogan?

  He's getting pummeled.

• 1:06:42Speaker 03

  Rape choke.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:06:44Speaker 03

  Do they still call it the rape choke?

• 1:06:45Joe Rogan?

  No, they got mad at me for calling it that. They told me not to call it that anymore.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  What do you call it? It's the Vanderlei Silver Rape Choke?

• 1:06:51Joe Rogan?

  I know, that's what we used to call it. We used to call it, the problem is that we, in, in training, we would call it the rape choke. And then I said it in, in competition.

• 1:06:57Speaker 01

  I'm laughing.

• 1:06:59Joe Rogan?

  This, we lost this fight. Canceled. Some, a weight management issue.

• 1:07:04Speaker 03

  That guy's fired.

• 1:07:05Joe Rogan?

  That was the only one? Oh, that's the one we lost today? That today's? Oh, yeah.

• 1:07:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, if I, he can go to three quarters here too.

• 1:07:11Speaker 03

  So if we're not calling it the rape choke, what should we refer to it as? What did they tell you to call it, Joe?

• 1:07:15Joe Rogan?

  They didn't have, give me a name. I said, it doesn't really have another name. And then someone said, you should call it the eagle claw. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

• 1:07:21Speaker 01

  Ah! Shut the fuck up, eagle claw.

• 1:07:24Joe Rogan?

  Shut the fuck up. I guess you'd call it like a front choke.

• 1:07:26Speaker 01

  Look at this, now! Fuck it, damn it.

• 1:07:28Joe Rogan?

  God, flowing, it's flowing on top.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Nice, man.

• 1:07:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, big elbows too.

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  It's smart.

• 1:07:33Joe Rogan?

  He's beating the shit out of him.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  It's smart and diving for the back and ending up on bottom, you know?

• 1:07:36Joe Rogan?

  He's also taking advantage of the dude exploded and then he pummels him with a couple of elbows when he's, knows he's trying to relax a little.

• 1:07:41Speaker 03

  This kid's gonna be exhausted.

• 1:07:42Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. He's already exhausted.

• 1:07:44Speaker 03

  And concussed.

• 1:07:44Joe Rogan?

  He had to explode to try to get to that position.

• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  He's not, he's not getting out of here.

• 1:07:48Joe Rogan?

  And now he's demoralized a little bit.

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  He's too flat.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  He's gonna threaten the Kimora again. Let's go.

• 1:07:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Not much time to work, but he's got such dominant position. I'd like to see him.

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  Soften him up some more, yeah.

• 1:08:02Speaker 03

  More damage.

• 1:08:03Joe Rogan?

  Try to fucking move to him.

• 1:08:05Speaker 03

  He's trying to get them out. He's gonna push that leg out.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  Well, he's looking, or he could threaten Kimora from there.

• 1:08:08Joe Rogan?

  Or he could take the back.

• 1:08:10Speaker 01

  There's a nice Kimora guard pass from there. A Kimora half guard pass.

• 1:08:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:08:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he just has full control. He has full control. He's, he's fully confident.

• 1:08:20Speaker 03

  This round's ending on top.

• 1:08:21Joe Rogan?

  The way he rode him right there, that's like, I could just do this all night long. That was like, no worry about losing position. He's just gotta get out of that half car.

• 1:08:29Speaker 03

  I assume a guy on the bottom, those are his coaches, they're going, get up.

• 1:08:33Joe Rogan?

  But he's doing such a good job controlling. I would say, get out of that half car.

• 1:08:36Speaker 03

  He knows his escape routes.

• 1:08:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, he doesn't have many options.

• 1:08:41Joe Rogan?

  But he's using the half car to control him a little bit. Oh, he gets back up. There we go.

• 1:08:44Speaker 03

  Nice. Boom, boom, boom. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, he landed one. He landed one too. He's exhausted.

• 1:08:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, dude.

• 1:08:52Speaker 03

  I like this.

• 1:08:53Joe Rogan?

  Twenty to go. Oh, he dropped him.

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  The fuck?

• 1:08:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:08:59Speaker 03

  This kid's having the roughest night.

• 1:09:00Speaker 02

  You've got ten seconds, come on. Fifteen seconds, come on.

• 1:09:03Speaker 03

  I hope he goes another round.

• 1:09:04Joe Rogan?

  He just looked up at the clock.

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  It's a rough first round, man.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  Ten seconds, come on.

• 1:09:07Speaker 03

  Worst first.

• 1:09:08Speaker 02

  We need a second round. No, we need a second round. Don't do it. Don't do it.

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's getting hammered.

• 1:09:13Speaker 02

  You're okay, you're okay, you're okay.

• 1:09:15Speaker 03

  This be a ten eight round, yeah?

• 1:09:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, oh yeah, ten eight round.

• 1:09:18Speaker 03

  Where I come from, that's ten eight.

• 1:09:19Joe Rogan?

  Ten eight round.

• 1:09:19Speaker 03

  And they don't throw out ten eights too often.

• 1:09:21Joe Rogan?

  They need to throw those bitches out more often.

• 1:09:22Speaker 03

  Man, they're so stingy, the ten eights.

• 1:09:24Joe Rogan?

  I mean, how much time did he have on top? How much time? He kept flowing, beat him up.

• 1:09:28Speaker 02

  His mouth is closed, he's breathing, he's fine.

• 1:09:30Joe Rogan?

  He got, shh. Look who Brian's rooting for.

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

• 1:09:34Speaker 03

  His coaches are going, weird, don't do that again.

• 1:09:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  Whatever that was, don't do that.

• 1:09:39Speaker 02

  Here's my.

• 1:09:40Speaker 03

  I don't think he landed anything.

• 1:09:41Joe Rogan?

  No, no, that was a ten eight round.

• 1:09:42Speaker 03

  It's a ten eight.

• 1:09:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, full domination on the ground, brutal ground and pound, hurt him standing up.

• 1:09:48Speaker 02

  Just playing the turtle, guys. Playing the turtle first round, guys.

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  He's a thick neck.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  He's got a thick neck, he's fine. His cardio's on point.

• 1:09:55Joe Rogan?

  What, Jamie?

• 1:09:55Speaker 02

  He's not breathing heavy.

• 1:09:56Speaker 03

  Five to sixty-two strikes.

• 1:09:57Joe Rogan?

  Wow, five to sixty-two. Oh, my goodness.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  That's a lot. That sucks.

• 1:10:02Speaker 03

  If that's not a ten eight round, bro.

• 1:10:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's ten eight round. But they need to do that more often because there's too many close rounds that they give ten nine and then they give a right around like this at ten nine. I I've been saying this forever. We need to get off that fucking stupid boxing system.

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:17Joe Rogan?

  MMA has too many factors to just have a ten point system. It doesn't make any sense.

• 1:10:21Speaker 02

  Why are they not changing that?

• 1:10:23Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. They should change it.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  They don't know how to kind of come up with an agreed upon.

• 1:10:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, Doc Doc Hamilton came up with a another system back in the day. He called it a half point system and he explained it to me and it made more sense. Like there was instead of like full points for certain things, give half points for certain things.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  Remember the masses that are familiar with the scoring structure so then you confuse them more. That's PFL's problem. The smart cage suck my dick.

• 1:10:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, here's another problem. Only three judges. Why? Tell me why. Are judges expensive? Get five judges or six judges. Have a bunch of judges.

• 1:10:55Speaker 03

  But they also shouldn't be rings cage side.

• 1:10:57Joe Rogan?

  Sure they should. As long as they have monitors. They have monitors now.

• 1:11:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, but they can get swayed by the crowd. Like they should be in a disclosed area. There should be five of them.

• 1:11:06Joe Rogan?

  You want to hear the.

• 1:11:07Speaker 03

  They should be in Ukraine.

• 1:11:08Joe Rogan?

  You want to hear the. Ukraine. They want you want to hear the thugs. You want to be there.

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  They should be in a drone.

• 1:11:15Joe Rogan?

  You want to like hear guys yelling at each other. You want to be like right there.

• 1:11:19Speaker 02

  Get an aerial point. I had I've got Croods got nice shots.

• 1:11:23Joe Rogan?

  Because for you to say that like, well, I should probably be doing commentary somewhere else, too. But no, you want to be like right there.

• 1:11:28Speaker 03

  You're not dictating the fight.

• 1:11:30Joe Rogan?

  That's true, but if I'm not, but if I'm not looking at it, but some of those guys do.

• 1:11:34Speaker 03

  No, they don't. I would rather have you judge the fight.

• 1:11:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, Levin is obviously going to do a great job. Ricardo Almeida is going to do a great job. There's a bunch of people. Look, the LA card had great scoring. The LA card didn't have any egregious decisions. There was not one where everybody was like, what the fuck is that?

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:11:50Joe Rogan?

  That's pretty rare.

• 1:11:50Speaker 03

  That's rare because a lot of times when when it's so atrocious, dude, you're talking about that dude gets half his fucking pay, you idiots.

• 1:11:58Joe Rogan?

  I know.

• 1:11:59Speaker 03

  It's insane.

• 1:11:59Joe Rogan?

  It is insane.

• 1:12:00Speaker 03

  A tough call's rough.

• 1:12:02Speaker 01

  Anytime you get it. My, my wife just had a, a kickboxing match over the weekend. Oh, yeah. Title fight. Really? Yeah, she's forty-one. She went for a, she lost a split decision. I gave her every fucking round. I know it's my wife, dude, I'll show, sticking and moving combos. Wow. It was a split decision. She fought a twenty-six-year-old. My wife's forty-one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so proud. It's amazing too, cause she got into everything late. She never, when I, when I was fighting, she never threw a punch. What? Never threw a punch. Was she an athlete now? Nothing in high school, nothing in high school, just a little Italian girl. How old are your kids, Matt? My oldest is gonna be sixteen next month. So they, did, and did they go to any of your fights? No. And they've been to all of them?

• 1:12:41Speaker 03

  I was gonna say, they, they think the mom's the fighter, little they know the dad.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  No, it's funny, yeah, no, it's amazing.

• 1:12:47Joe Rogan?

  Those Italian ladies have genetic anger.

• 1:12:50Speaker 01

  She's, she's got, you know.

• 1:12:51Joe Rogan?

  They got a genetic anger inside of them.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're strong. And muscular. Your wife's Italian too?

• 1:12:57Joe Rogan?

  No. I, I gave off on Italians when I was twenty-one.

• 1:13:00Speaker 01

  Oh, you're funny.

• 1:13:01Joe Rogan?

  I was like, eh, I can't be dating my people.

• 1:13:04Speaker 01

  What is your wife?

• 1:13:05Joe Rogan?

  I can't be dating my people.

• 1:13:07Speaker 01

  But, yeah.

• 1:13:07Joe Rogan?

  A lot of Viking shit.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:10Joe Rogan?

  This is a good fight.

• 1:13:13Speaker 01

  But your, your wife is, she's like, like her.

• 1:13:15Speaker 02

  Irish, Italian, Irish, Italian.

• 1:13:16Joe Rogan?

  She came off the Mayflower, son.

• 1:13:18Speaker 02

  No, she's Irish, she's Irish, she's Irish, half Sicilian, half Sicilian, half Irish.

• 1:13:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's half Sicilian?

• 1:13:24Speaker 01

  Your wife?

• 1:13:24Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:13:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:13:28Joe Rogan?

  Bellotta's laying a lot of good solid leg kicks. Isn't it crazy, Matt? Like, your whole career, did you get calf kicked once?

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  Not once.

• 1:13:35Joe Rogan?

  It's a new, it's a new trend.

• 1:13:36Speaker 01

  I'm so happy it came after.

• 1:13:38Joe Rogan?

  Did you get kicked in the, did you get kicked in the thigh, though? Not, not a ton, right?

• 1:13:42Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, yeah, in, in training.

• 1:13:43Joe Rogan?

  But in training, not in fights, right?

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Matt, who was that? I was good at catching it and coming with a right, to be honest.

• 1:13:48Joe Rogan?

  I don't want guys to kick, cause you could take them down.

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I, I, I was good at catching it right hand down the middle.

• 1:13:53Joe Rogan?

  But isn't it crazy, like, there's never been a technique like the calf kick, where all of a sudden it came along, and everybody had it and changed the course of fights, and it's nothing crazy.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  Nothing crazy.

• 1:14:01Joe Rogan?

  Nothing crazy, just kicking lower.

• 1:14:03Speaker 01

  We still don't know why the ties never did it, or do it. Why?

• 1:14:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, they, they, they stand with that left leg light.

• 1:14:08Speaker 01

  Oh, is that what it is?

• 1:14:09Joe Rogan?

  Cause they don't have to worry about takedown, so they stand straight up. So they stand straight up, and you see the ties fight, that left leg's very light.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  So they check it.

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  It's just not good for getting taken down. It's, it's not a good strategy. Unless you, you have elite, like BJ Penn-type balance.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  These guys are fucking banging, man. Yeah, he's coming back. Jeez, they're so fucking tough. So fucking rugged.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  He's actually, but he's also like, kinda like catching a lot of the shots off his glove.

• 1:14:32Speaker 03

  He's putting up a good round after getting dominated.

• 1:14:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, and he's actually, a lot of the shots are grazing. He's got...

• 1:14:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's landing a lot of hard leg kicks, man. Over, look, he did it again and again and again. That left leg, Crute's gonna get chewed the fuck up. What are you saying? Did you say Crute's gonna knock him out?

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think Crute's gonna knock him out.

• 1:14:48Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:14:48Speaker 03

  He's landing pretty flush. The kid's not moving.

• 1:14:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, Crute's gonna...

• 1:14:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, oh, you might be right. He just tagged him with two hard ones, man.

• 1:14:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's catching him a lot now. Crute's just a better boxer. This kid's hands are down and he's getting tired.

• 1:15:00Joe Rogan?

  Those low kicks, though, are brutal. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 1:15:05Speaker 02

  This kid is rugged, Jesus.

• 1:15:06Speaker 03

  They're both.

• 1:15:07Speaker 01

  God, dumb.

• 1:15:08Speaker 03

  He's got enough snap on it on the one though.

• 1:15:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, another low kick.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  Not good for your head.

• 1:15:13Joe Rogan?

  I'm telling you, he limped a little on that one. Okay, he don't like it.

• 1:15:15Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 1:15:16Joe Rogan?

  He's trying to change stances.

• 1:15:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, his left leg's fucked right now.

• 1:15:20Speaker 02

  Dude, you're right.

• 1:15:21Speaker 03

  Eneron is fucking...

• 1:15:22Speaker 02

  I didn't see that.

• 1:15:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh!

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  He got it right in the mullet! He kicked the mullet!

• 1:15:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he tried to do one himself.

• 1:15:29Speaker 03

  Looked like Charlie Brown, though.

• 1:15:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that was terrible.

• 1:15:31Speaker 03

  You got that's bad.

• 1:15:32Joe Rogan?

  But it's also, his left leg is toast. He'll try to spin it on that thing.

• 1:15:35Speaker 03

  He didn't know.

• 1:15:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's like, oh, this thing don't even work anymore.

• 1:15:37Speaker 03

  That's a great round. A great way to answer. A great round.

• 1:15:40Speaker 02

  I don't know who won that round. I think Crute won.

• 1:15:42Speaker 03

  I think Crute's got this. I think the other guy's gotta go for broke. He has to, especially that first round, 10-8. Even if you won that last round.

• 1:15:49Speaker 01

  He's tired, though.

• 1:15:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's ahead one round for sure. At least one point.

• 1:15:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:53Joe Rogan?

  Even if that guy got 10-9 this round.

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:15:55Joe Rogan?

  So he has to...

• 1:15:56Speaker 03

  That's a draw.

• 1:15:57Joe Rogan?

  It could be a draw if he loses the next round.

• 1:15:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  I don't think so. I think Crute's well ahead.

• 1:16:01Speaker 03

  You give to Crute again?

• 1:16:02Joe Rogan?

  I mean, you just don't know. I think also they're in Australia. They're probably gonna favor Crute.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, Crute's catching him more.

• 1:16:08Joe Rogan?

  He definitely hit him with some good shots. Yeah, he hit him with the more meaningful blows, for sure.

• 1:16:13Speaker 02

  Ow, that fucking kick, dude!

• 1:16:15Joe Rogan?

  That's a lot of damage.

• 1:16:16Speaker 02

  He's soccer kicking his leg. Fuck!

• 1:16:18Joe Rogan?

  How much does that count for?

• 1:16:19Speaker 02

  Oh, I don't think as much as headshots.

• 1:16:22Speaker 03

  With the judges.

• 1:16:22Speaker 02

  The judges don't.

• 1:16:23Joe Rogan?

  Definitely not as much as headshots, but man, it should mean a lot. Like when Pereira hits you there.

• 1:16:27Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 1:16:28Joe Rogan?

  It's just a few of those and you see guys like, even guys like Jan Bohovic who's made out of metal. That guy was limping. Like he didn't like it.

• 1:16:35Speaker 01

  He's like 43 now. How old is he now?

• 1:16:37Joe Rogan?

  Jan is like in his 40s, but still top of the heap. People keep leaving him out of the discussion, but that guy went to a draw with, uh, Ankalaev.

• 1:16:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:46Joe Rogan?

  And I mean, he, he's the first guy to go to, no, second guy. Bruno Silva went through decision with Alex too.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  By the way, you're right, Joe. That, that, that low kick is causing some problems.

• 1:16:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  He keeps switching up.

• 1:16:58Joe Rogan?

  Bro, his left leg is fucked.

• 1:16:59Speaker 02

  Gun shy as fuck.

• 1:17:01Joe Rogan?

  He's landed like 30 of them. He keeps kicking them.

• 1:17:03Speaker 01

  Jan's okay, cause light heavyweight's pretty light too.

• 1:17:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, just people are sleeping on him. They're not bringing up Jan Bohovic in the discussion of like who's next. It's Yury. It's these guys, it's that guy. It's like, you gotta bring Jan into that discussion. And he just went through major surgery. He had a shoulder surgery. Yeah. Yeah. He tore something in his shoulder. I don't know when he's ready to retire. I don't even know if he's done rehab. I'm not sure, but I mean, out of respect, I feel like you gotta bring that guy up. He's an animal.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  Hey, uh, Joe, out of left field, but with the stem cells, you, when you get that shit out here, do you get the IV?

• 1:17:38Joe Rogan?

  Yes, I get IV as well. Yeah.

• 1:17:41Speaker 01

  Cause I plan on going to Colombia with my, well, my.

• 1:17:43Joe Rogan?

  They can do way more down there.

• 1:17:46Speaker 01

  Okay. All right. Then I'm taking that trip.

• 1:17:47Joe Rogan?

  They can do a lot, but it might, I don't know what the actual dose you need is. So this is what Brigham's argument is at ways too well. He's like, look, we have an amazing results with what we can use here in America. And I, they definitely use more cells in these other places. And there's certain things they can do like in Mexico and Panama and Colombia that they just can't do here. I, the question is, is it more effective? This is the problem with it not being like legalized with the FDA. Because if it was, and you could do in Mexico, what you could do here, then you would be able to say, oh, this is too much. This is the right amount. Do more than this. It's just like, your body doesn't utilize it. It's like, there's a number that you're probably gonna get to.

• 1:18:30Joe Rogan?

  That's the right amount of cells. We don't really know. All we know is it works.

• 1:18:34Speaker 02

  We do know what works though, the settle, the science is.

• 1:18:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. I had a full-length rotator cuff tear in my shoulder. It's gone.

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  See, that's what I'm saying, man. I never had shoulder issues. And now I'm feeling my right shoulder bad.

• 1:18:45Joe Rogan?

  Jiu-Jitsu is so rough on your shoulders. You think, how many times you're in weird positions?

• 1:18:49Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:18:49Joe Rogan?

  You're pushing off.

• 1:18:50Speaker 01

  But I need to.

• 1:18:51Joe Rogan?

  And you're scrambling and your arm hits the ground.

• 1:18:52Speaker 01

  I know, and I'm still on the mat, so I wanna.

• 1:18:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:55Speaker 01

  I wanna keep the body together, you know?

• 1:18:56Joe Rogan?

  We can get you here. We can get you in here. And if that works, you know, you don't need anything else. But the other thing is peptides. Get yourself some BPC157 and TB500. That's the.

• 1:19:06Speaker 01

  Peptides?

• 1:19:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's the Wolverine stack.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  Travis Pastrana is talking about, he had a fucking shoulder problem for two years. I think his shoulder. He did stem cells. No, he did a BP, BP157. He said that in a week, it was gone. It was, it was gone in a week.

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I had a knee issue. Fuck yeah, crew. I hit you up about, uh, doing stem cell. And then I started that BC157.

• 1:19:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  Uh, transcend. Dude, I don't have any issues with my knee.

• 1:19:32Joe Rogan?

  It's incredible.

• 1:19:33Speaker 01

  I can, you know, I run miles every morning. Sounds like a fucking droid.

• 1:19:36Joe Rogan?

  You turn into Wolverine.

• 1:19:38Speaker 01

  It heals.

• 1:19:39Joe Rogan?

  It heals quick.

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  Dude, look at this.

• 1:19:41Joe Rogan?

  And that's why it's.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  I need it.

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  This is interesting.

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  I need it.

• 1:19:44Joe Rogan?

  Well, why are you using something that's not approved by the FDA, Brendan?

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  I turned 50, man. I need this shit.

• 1:19:50Joe Rogan?

  Why are you using something that's not? Why are you giving out advice in a public forum? Not approved by the FDA. I mean.

• 1:19:58Speaker 01

  That's how you know it's good.

• 1:20:00Speaker 02

  Whatever.

• 1:20:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:01Speaker 02

  I don't, I don't like looking in the mirror. It just gets worse every fucking six months.

• 1:20:04Joe Rogan?

  Just go bald like these guys, Brian, for God's sake.

• 1:20:06Speaker 02

  I hope you get a hair transplant.

• 1:20:07Joe Rogan?

  All changes with RFK. If he gets in, I hope that peptides become everywhere. It can help a lot of people. And by the way, this fucking, this Wegovy shit, this Ozempic shit, that's a peptide.

• 1:20:20Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 1:20:20Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 1:20:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, GLP-1 agonist.

• 1:20:22Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:20:22Joe Rogan?

  I hope he chills out on the vaccines for kids, too. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  Oh my, another low kick. Oh my goodness. So, that left kick, that left leg round's gotta be fucked up.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  I can't believe this guy's still even in the fight though.

• 1:20:37Speaker 03

  It's a good fight.

• 1:20:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fuck.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  He's kind of, he's borderline winning this third round.

• 1:20:41Speaker 01

  He's doing good this round.

• 1:20:41Speaker 03

  Kevin Iole, he's pretty fucking good at judging fights, been around for fucking ever. Gave last round, your guy, Brian.

• 1:20:48Speaker 02

  He did.

• 1:20:48Speaker 03

  He has it 19-19.

• 1:20:49Joe Rogan?

  See, the thing is, it's like those leg kicks have compromised him so badly and he keeps landing them. Like Crute just can't get off. He can't move right, right now. See, like even like he's closing the distance.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  Scored there.

• 1:21:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but he's, he's, he's falling forward. His left leg is all fucked up.

• 1:21:04Speaker 02

  Scored again though. He's, he is, he is making contact to his head though.

• 1:21:07Joe Rogan?

  He's making contact, but he's like, he's limited to like one leg and his arms.

• 1:21:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:13Joe Rogan?

  You know, oh my god, he's trying to go southpaw now.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  Jesus, this is, this is rough.

• 1:21:19Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that-

• 1:21:19Speaker 02

  Tough way to make a living.

• 1:21:20Joe Rogan?

  Low kick has changed this whole fight. Another one. He hit him another one. Another one. And another one. Bro, it's just, he's relentless with that low kick. And I love when guys do that. I wanna see more of that, cuz it changes everything.

• 1:21:33Speaker 02

  Oh, shit! Oh my god!

• 1:21:36Speaker 01

  Dude, keep your tongue in your mouth, bro. Get that shit-

• 1:21:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he just slapped him.

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  Give him a fucking smack!

• 1:21:41Joe Rogan?

  Give him a tomahawk.

• 1:21:43Speaker 03

  So disrespectful. Yeah, he ran into the cage.

• 1:21:46Speaker 01

  Oh, now they're cool. That's fucking smacking him.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  That was insane, dude.

• 1:21:51Joe Rogan?

  He hit him with like a karate chop.

• 1:21:52Speaker 02

  Good god.

• 1:21:53Joe Rogan?

  A jumping karate chop.

• 1:21:54Speaker 02

  I think Crute, Crute got it.

• 1:21:56Speaker 01

  I think so too.

• 1:21:57Joe Rogan?

  Who knows, man?

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  Hell of a fight.

• 1:21:58Speaker 01

  It's close.

• 1:21:59Joe Rogan?

  That could be a draw.

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  If anything, it's a draw.

• 1:22:00Joe Rogan?

  That could be a draw. I, I would have to go watch the second round and not talk.

• 1:22:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think-

• 1:22:05Speaker 02

  Oh, back kick.

• 1:22:08Joe Rogan?

  Honestly, he caught him with the toes though.

• 1:22:10Speaker 02

  Spent more time on top.

• 1:22:11Speaker 01

  And did he get a 10-8 round in that first round?

• 1:22:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're also assuming a 10-8.

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:15Joe Rogan?

  The back, when you land a back kick with the toes, it doesn't have much on it cuz your foot gives.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  Great knockdown.

• 1:22:19Joe Rogan?

  So like when you land it with your toes like that, sidekick style, your foot gives.

• 1:22:23Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:22:23Joe Rogan?

  You really wanna land it with the heel.

• 1:22:25Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:22:26Joe Rogan?

  Like Jon Jones did with Stipe.

• 1:22:27Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 1:22:28Speaker 01

  Gnarly. A heavyweight to do a spinning back kick.

• 1:22:31Joe Rogan?

  And perfect, like right, you see his, we, we watched it in slow-mo to watch his ribs cave in.

• 1:22:36Speaker 01

  Nasty.

• 1:22:36Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it was like halfway into his body cavity.

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  Rough.

• 1:22:43Joe Rogan?

  Why is he sticking his tongue out?

• 1:22:44Speaker 03

  His tongue?

• 1:22:45Speaker 01

  Dude, he's doing that for like fucking ten, five seconds.

• 1:22:47Joe Rogan?

  That's the last few seconds of the fight.

• 1:22:49Speaker 01

  If you jab that shit, you lose your tongue.

• 1:22:51Speaker 02

  He's gonna be limping for a, for a good two weeks.

• 1:22:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Fuck.

• 1:22:55Speaker 03

  Those leg kicks can swell up so much.

• 1:22:58Speaker 02

  You took those from Gonzaga. That must have been a fun time.

• 1:23:00Speaker 03

  And the next morning at the airport, I had to be in a wheelchair.

• 1:23:02Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 1:23:03Speaker 03

  Yeah. I beat the brakes off him and I was in a wheelchair. He was walking around.

• 1:23:06Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:23:08Joe Rogan?

  Leg kicks are horrible.

• 1:23:09Speaker 03

  The worst.

• 1:23:10Joe Rogan?

  Remember Aldo and Uriah Faber? That was the worst. Here it is. Watch this. Watch this. Watch, watch how deep John's heel goes into Steve Bay's body. Look at this.

• 1:23:18Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 1:23:19Joe Rogan?

  Oh my God. Look how deep it goes into his fucking rib cage, bro.

• 1:23:24Speaker 02

  That's how you break all your ribs.

• 1:23:25Joe Rogan?

  All of his organs just had to get compressed.

• 1:23:28Speaker 02

  Fuck you.

• 1:23:29Joe Rogan?

  Perfect.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  It's like a horse kicking you.

• 1:23:31Joe Rogan?

  Perfect spinning back.

• 1:23:32Speaker 01

  It's like a horse. It is like a horse.

• 1:23:34Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's such a powerful kick. There's so much torque.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 1:23:37Joe Rogan?

  Off his feet.

• 1:23:38Speaker 03

  Look how deep it goes in. That is so crazy.

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 1:23:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:23:43Speaker 01

  Oh, here's, here's the judging.

• 1:23:52Speaker 01

  It's a draw.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  He won. Now, Kruet won.

• 1:23:55Joe Rogan?

  Majority draw.

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:23:58Speaker 01

  Wow. He should have, that means he didn't get that.

• 1:24:01Speaker 02

  I don't get it.

• 1:24:01Joe Rogan?

  That's the ten eight round, the first round. That means the other guy won the next two and that's it.

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 1:24:06Speaker 01

  One judge gave it to Kruet.

• 1:24:07Speaker 02

  Wow, that's surprising.

• 1:24:09Joe Rogan?

  We'd have to watch that second fight, or second round, rather.

• 1:24:11Speaker 01

  It was close. Nobody got robbed. Like, you wouldn't say Kruet got robbed. Shit.

• 1:24:15Joe Rogan?

  I have no problem with draws.

• 1:24:16Speaker 01

  Oh, no, we got the heavyweight.

• 1:24:18Joe Rogan?

  That dude's a savage.

• 1:24:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, heavyweight, that should be a clean draw.

• 1:24:19Joe Rogan?

  Diego Lopez versus Yair Rodriguez is what they're gonna do.

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  That'll be sick.

• 1:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Is that what they're doing?

• 1:24:24Speaker 02

  That's gonna be sick.

• 1:24:25Joe Rogan?

  That's what I heard.

• 1:24:26Speaker 01

  I think Lopez is-

• 1:24:27Joe Rogan?

  Is that announced?

• 1:24:28Speaker 01

  Is coming in hot.

• 1:24:29Speaker 02

  I don't know how Yair gets down to forty-five. That fucking guy's huge.

• 1:24:33Speaker 03

  So is Lopez, bro. Lopez is big.

• 1:24:36Joe Rogan?

  Fuck yeah.

• 1:24:36Speaker 03

  Diego's big. And Diego's got some pu pu pu pu power.

• 1:24:40Speaker 01

  Those fight nerds are onto something. Steve Ursig.

• 1:24:44Joe Rogan?

  Brandon Mar, that's a good fight.

• 1:24:45Speaker 01

  That is a good fight.

• 1:24:46Joe Rogan?

  Ursig had a great fight with Pantoja.

• 1:24:48Speaker 01

  He did.

• 1:24:49Joe Rogan?

  Catapult, real close fight with Pantoja, real close fight. And when you know how good Pantoja is, that's super impressive.

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  Who's Murab fighting next, O'Malley?

• 1:24:58Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question.

• 1:24:59Speaker 01

  I don't think that's, nothing's been even.

• 1:25:01Joe Rogan?

  I mean, they're just letting him have his victory lap now before they start talking about who's next.

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Ah, that was.

• 1:25:06Speaker 03

  They should.

• 1:25:07Speaker 01

  He deserves it.

• 1:25:07Joe Rogan?

  But you, you would want, I'd like to see Sanhagen, but he has to have a win, right? Like he's gonna lose to Umar.

• 1:25:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:13Joe Rogan?

  I wouldn't be mad if they just gave him a shot, though.

• 1:25:16Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 1:25:16Joe Rogan?

  Diego Lopez dismisses Yair Rodriguez rumors, wants Volkanovski at UFC 314. Oh.

• 1:25:22Speaker 03

  I think Diego needs one more before he fights for a title.

• 1:25:25Joe Rogan?

  One more tough guy.

• 1:25:27Speaker 01

  What about Peter Yan versus Umar? Who's winning with that?

• 1:25:30Speaker 03

  What'd you say?

• 1:25:31Speaker 01

  Peter Yan versus Umar?

• 1:25:32Speaker 03

  That question, great question.

• 1:25:34Joe Rogan?

  It's just Peter Yan looks fantastic.

• 1:25:36Speaker 01

  And he's, he switches it up too with the grappling too. I love his trip. I love that front trip he does on everybody.

• 1:25:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Do you think what Murab did to Peter Yan? How many fuck, 30 takedowns, shot 30 takedowns?

• 1:25:48Speaker 03

  Animal.

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  You do 30 takedowns in this fucking studio, you're fucking dog.

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  It's one of my favorite moments ever in the corner.

• 1:25:54Speaker 02

  Peter Yan's boxing is fucking unbelievable.

• 1:25:56Joe Rogan?

  Everything. Did you, did you see his last fight? After he, he had, he had surgery and came back? Bro, he looked fantastic.

• 1:26:02Speaker 01

  What did he have surgery on?

• 1:26:03Joe Rogan?

  We were talking about it, remember? You and I watched that morning, yeah. What was he, what did he have surgery on?

• 1:26:07Speaker 01

  I think shoulder.

• 1:26:08Speaker 02

  Damn. He's fucking great, man.

• 1:26:10Joe Rogan?

  I mean, Shawn motherfuckin' Strickland. He's keeping the perv stash, I like it.

• 1:26:15Speaker 02

  I love him.

• 1:26:15Joe Rogan?

  Do you think he had staff on his left arm?

• 1:26:17Speaker 01

  Sure looks like it, doesn't it?

• 1:26:18Joe Rogan?

  It looked like staff to me. Did it look like staff to you, Matt?

• 1:26:21Speaker 01

  Ah, it's hard to tell, I mean.

• 1:26:23Speaker 03

  Could be ingrown hair.

• 1:26:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it could be a fucking ingrown hair.

• 1:26:26Joe Rogan?

  Ingrown hair or staff.

• 1:26:27Speaker 03

  Or staff.

• 1:26:27Speaker 01

  It could be staff.

• 1:26:28Joe Rogan?

  Ingrown hair becomes staff.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  A lot of times, folliculitis.

• 1:26:32Speaker 03

  If this fight goes past the first round, we're fucked. But the, the homeboy on the right is a problem.

• 1:26:38Joe Rogan?

  Is he?

• 1:26:38Speaker 03

  Don't judge him off that body shot, but.

• 1:26:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, what about Tafa? Don't judge him off of his body either. Tafa can fucking crack.

• 1:26:45Speaker 01

  He's Samoan, so it doesn't count.

• 1:26:46Joe Rogan?

  Tafa can fucking crack.

• 1:26:48Speaker 01

  He's Samoan, so he's Moana style, doesn't count.

• 1:26:49Joe Rogan?

  Tafa's a dangerous fellow.

• 1:26:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's not, that, that body is a.

• 1:26:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:26:55Speaker 03

  But he, he's a, he's 7-0, undefeated prospect. They put him on here for a finish. Like, you know, if you're here.

• 1:27:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:00Speaker 03

  If you're third on the card.

• 1:27:02Speaker 02

  He can hit hard.

• 1:27:02Speaker 03

  You gotta go for finishes.

• 1:27:03Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:27:04Speaker 01

  Is he Brazilian?

• 1:27:05Joe Rogan?

  Tashero.

• 1:27:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:06Joe Rogan?

  Looks it.

• 1:27:07Speaker 03

  He's a savage from Brazil.

• 1:27:08Joe Rogan?

  Finisher. I like a dude with an eyebrow scar, too.

• 1:27:12Joe Rogan?

  Both of them.

• 1:27:12Speaker 03

  He has a head like a Lego piece, right?

• 1:27:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, it's similar.

• 1:27:16Speaker 03

  Seven and O, he's a problem.

• 1:27:17Joe Rogan?

  Bro, is Mark Hunt really fighting, uh, Ben Rothwell in bare knuckle fighting? That's what I heard.

• 1:27:24Speaker 03

  In BKFC?

• 1:27:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:25Speaker 03

  Jesus.

• 1:27:26Joe Rogan?

  You see Ben Rothwell, did you see his KO?

• 1:27:28Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:27:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:27:29Speaker 03

  That was cool.

• 1:27:30Joe Rogan?

  One punch, beautiful, beautiful, one punch.

• 1:27:34Speaker 03

  He's built for BKFC.

• 1:27:35Joe Rogan?

  He's an animal, too. That's a big fucker, too. Rothwell responds to Mark Hunt's call, "Let's fucking go, motherfucker."

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 1:27:43Speaker 03

  Watch that.

• 1:27:44Joe Rogan?

  Perfect. Why do they have to, like, give you an asterisk so, like, pretend it doesn't have a U there? Why do they do that? That's so stupid.

• 1:27:52Speaker 03

  Silly.

• 1:27:53Joe Rogan?

  Damn, this dude's big.

• 1:27:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, big, long prospect.

• 1:27:55Joe Rogan?

  What's his weight?

• 1:27:57Speaker 03

  How tall is this fucking guy, dude?

• 1:27:59Speaker 02

  All the way.

• 1:28:00Joe Rogan?

  How's his ground game?

• 1:28:01Speaker 04

  Six, seven, two, sixty.

• 1:28:02Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:28:03Speaker 04

  Or six foot, two, eighty?

• 1:28:05Joe Rogan?

  Six, seven, two, sixty?

• 1:28:07Speaker 03

  Dude, I could fucking walk between his legs.

• 1:28:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. That dude that Francis beat up in, in Bellator or GFL? That guy was, that guy was scary. That guy was scary. Henan Ferrer.

• 1:28:20Speaker 03

  How old is Francis now? He's gotta be getting up to forty-nine.

• 1:28:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's only thirty-seven. What are you saying?

• 1:28:26Speaker 03

  Forty-nine?

• 1:28:27Joe Rogan?

  You never know.

• 1:28:28Speaker 02

  You never know. Doesn't matter.

• 1:28:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, dude's from Cuba. Like, they always say Yoel's fifty.

• 1:28:31Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, speaking of, the old guys, you, what is that, the league? Are you, what that?

• 1:28:36Joe Rogan?

  GFL?

• 1:28:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, talk to me. Yeah, I'm, I'm from there from. Oh, is it legit? It's legit, yeah.

• 1:28:42Joe Rogan?

  So, they're throwing a lot of money around, right?

• 1:28:43Speaker 03

  Throwing a lot of money around.

• 1:28:44Joe Rogan?

  Is that how they got guys like Wide Men, all these guys to come out of retirement?

• 1:28:47Speaker 03

  Longo's coaching. Yeah, Longo's coaching, Cade Velazquez coaching, Javier Mendez.

• 1:28:52Joe Rogan?

  Who's fighting? What are the, what are the people that are fighting?

• 1:28:54Speaker 03

  The, the main fight that, that I'm told is, uh, Dylan Dennis, Tony Ferguson.

• 1:28:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. Shogun's back. Fabrice Overdum is back. I thought Fabrice retired. There, a lot of people retired, right? They decided, fuck it.

• 1:29:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  There's enough money.

• 1:29:07Joe Rogan?

  They coaxed them in with the money? So, this is their first card?

• 1:29:10Speaker 03

  Uh, no, this is, that's the Brazilian team. That's the Sao Paulo. So, there's six teams: New York, Miami, LA, Sao Paulo, uh, Abu Dhabi, and London.

• 1:29:24Speaker 01

  What about, what about Wyman? Dude, you guys, I'm laughing at Wyman retiring and then all of a sudden the next day you see him on the

• 1:29:33Speaker 03

  Hey, you know what I love about it? Longo picked Wyman second. Wyman goes, what the fuck?

• 1:29:38Joe Rogan?

  Who'd he pick first? Uh, I want to say Kevin Lee.

• 1:29:42Speaker 03

  Anthony Pettis versus Jeremy Stephens is wild. Oh my God. Hector Lombard and Yoel Romero, the battle of Cuba.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  Oh my God, they used to train together.

• 1:29:49Speaker 03

  They're on the same team, bud.

• 1:29:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh my goodness.

• 1:29:51Speaker 03

  The Miami roster.

• 1:29:53Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 1:29:53Speaker 03

  You got Payton's fucking cash.

• 1:29:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, where's the guy getting all the money? I'm gonna tell you something. Marlon Marais, at one point in time, I thought he was the man.

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  Kat Zingano.

• 1:30:03Joe Rogan?

  I thought, when he knocked out Aljo, I was like, oh my God, he might be the guy.

• 1:30:07Speaker 01

  It was a rough start for him and Marab too with that fight. The crazy thing about that is.

• 1:30:11Joe Rogan?

  How about Sahudo? He fucked Sahudo up in the first round. Fucked him up.

• 1:30:15Speaker 01

  Oh, I remember that. Yeah. But Marab was so wild because at the same round, almost, it almost stopped, got stopped because Marab switched it around and it's beating the crap out of him by the end of it.

• 1:30:25Speaker 03

  Gayguard, man. Gayguard is a guy that people have been sleeping on, man. He still has a lot of fights left. But he got out, he got out of his PFL Bellator contract to fight in GFL.

• 1:30:34Joe Rogan?

  He couldn't get any fights. Why couldn't they give him fights?

• 1:30:35Speaker 03

  They couldn't find anyone. So they're talking about Gayguard, Luke Rockhold, that'd be a dope fight.

• 1:30:40Joe Rogan?

  Could they not get someone to fight him or they didn't want to pay?

• 1:30:44Speaker 03

  They didn't want to pay because he had a high contract, so they let him go.

• 1:30:46Speaker 01

  Bro. I just had Kat Zingano down at the school doing a seminar.

• 1:30:50Joe Rogan?

  She's great.

• 1:30:50Speaker 02

  She's great.

• 1:30:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, she did a great seminar.

• 1:30:52Speaker 03

  But when you think about all, all the leagues, it's, it's the same business model as anything. You get the casuals in with the huge names with like Woodley, you know, Shogun, Rashad, so people pay attention. And then you have the young guys like Kevin Lee, uh, you got Sage Northcutt. So you're hoping the young guys eventually take over.

• 1:31:09Joe Rogan?

  I thought Rashad said he wasn't signed up to it.

• 1:31:11Speaker 03

  So here's the thing with that. I was there, I was seeing Darren, the owner of PFL or GFL, text his, his manager. And he goes, is he in? He goes, yes. So he didn't have straight dialogue with Rashad, but he assumed the agent representing them. When he says yes, he's good to go. So he announced it and Rashad's like, I never said yes. Like, that's between you and your agent, homeboy.

• 1:31:33Speaker 01

  I see, I see.

• 1:31:35Speaker 02

  Let's try one of these.

• 1:31:36Joe Rogan?

  What is drive, is that your shirt? Drive fast, all gas? Bro, where's mine? Where, give me one of them bitches. I like those. But, but. I like the way it looks. What does it say in the back? Anti-electric vehicle club? Oh, how dare you.

• 1:31:49Speaker 03

  Well, no, you can drive it in your fucking.

• 1:31:50Joe Rogan?

  You drove here an electric vehicle.

• 1:31:52Speaker 03

  I didn't ask for that. I asked for your GT fucking Ford GT.

• 1:31:55Speaker 02

  Your electric vehicle is something else, though. I'm a little jealous and I don't, I'm not in the car.

• 1:31:59Speaker 03

  But like I was telling you at dinner, my, my thing was I was so angry at Newsom trying to ban combustion engines. I, I fucking had so much anger, but now I'm moving to Austin. It's kind of leaving.

• 1:32:08Joe Rogan?

  Good, good.

• 1:32:09Speaker 02

  Tesla's got a factory here.

• 1:32:10Speaker 03

  I know, and there's.

• 1:32:11Speaker 02

  Get yourself one. I'm getting one.

• 1:32:13Joe Rogan?

  Get yourself a Cybertruck and put the Fighter and the Kid logo all over it. Just drive around town like a pariah.

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  We need a revamp. Let's go, baby.

• 1:32:20Joe Rogan?

  Callan drive that.

• 1:32:21Speaker 03

  Those things.

• 1:32:22Joe Rogan?

  Callan will drive it.

• 1:32:23Speaker 02

  You know I'll drive it.

• 1:32:23Joe Rogan?

  I'll do that for you, Callan.

• 1:32:25Speaker 02

  Uh, can I get the, a clip here, a clipper?

• 1:32:27Joe Rogan?

  It's on the lighter.

• 1:32:29Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 1:32:29Joe Rogan?

  Where's the lighter? Who's got the lighter? Oh, right here. Did that work for you? It's on the back of the lighter. Did you get it to work for you? The back of the lighter pops back and there's a clip. Did you get that lighter to work for you?

• 1:32:37Speaker 03

  Yes, thank you.

• 1:32:37Joe Rogan?

  Just push it back.

• 1:32:39Speaker 02

  I'm sorry.

• 1:32:39Joe Rogan?

  Six, seven, dude.

• 1:32:41Speaker 03

  Dude.

• 1:32:44Joe Rogan?

  Six, seven.

• 1:32:44Speaker 03

  Dude, there was one time in the airport, I took the shuttle over and it was me and I was talking to him, very nice guy, Stefan Struve.

• 1:32:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's the best.

• 1:32:51Speaker 03

  And then we started walking through the airport together. I go, hey, man, I, I gotta go to your, I can't do this. I, I feel like I'm walking with, like a kid with his dad.

• 1:33:01Joe Rogan?

  He's legit.

• 1:33:01Speaker 02

  It's legit seventeen.

• 1:33:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gigantic. I ran into, uh, Mark Hunt at the airport and I was like starstruck because I love Mark Hunt. I was a K1 fan. I was like, man, it's kind of crazy that people don't know who you are and just wandering around this airport. Like, you're a legend. The hard cores do, though. They're freaking out. That would be crazy if you fought Rothwell and Bare Knuckle. Oh, my god.

• 1:33:21Speaker 03

  That's my thing. Who the fuck signed up to fight y'all Romero and Bare Knuckle, some poor savage?

• 1:33:26Joe Rogan?

  He fought a guy from PowerSlap and he fucking decapitated him, right? That was horrifying. That was hard. Remember when he just jumped up in the air for no reason and then moved towards the guy? He just like leaps. He's like, watch what I can do. The PowerSlap guy was like, what the fuck? He saw him jump up in the air and he's like, oh, no.

• 1:33:43Joe Rogan?

  I can't do that. That's when he knew he fucked up. Bro, he jumped up like one of them Masai warriors, like it looks like effortless. Like it was the Matrix. Bounce, those Masai people just bounce.

• 1:33:52Speaker 02

  When he followed the rock hold, he just exploded. That's where he caught him.

• 1:33:55Joe Rogan?

  He can close distance like no, when he knocked out, um, Weidman with that flying knee.

• 1:33:59Speaker 02

  In his 40s.

• 1:34:00Joe Rogan?

  He sneaks you into like this rhythm. He sneaks you into a rhythm. He like relaxes you and they fucking explodes on you. He did it to Izzy. He caught Izzy with a haymaker of a left hand. But that's why Izzy didn't play the game. Exactly. And it was so boring. He's like, fuck you. You go fight that 50 year old kid.

• 1:34:16Speaker 02

  He was getting kicked in the leg, kicked in the leg for five rounds. They go, how's your leg? He gets up and starts dancing.

• 1:34:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't feel shit. There's no way this fight goes past the first round. Geez. Whoa. No, this kid's a savage. Oh my god. Nice kicks. He skips chest day. How is his, uh, well, he's gotta make weight. He probably can't put on any muscle. You can put on some muscle. What is his, uh, ground game? Oh my god, he shoots for a fucking takedown. That's crazy. He's got a ground game? Does he have a ground game? Well, I don't think Tafa though. I haven't, he has, we, we haven't seen it because we haven't, we haven't. Oh, nasty. Oh, we heard him already. That was an illegal knee. That was an illegal knee. Was it? Was he down? Yeah, he was down when he hit him with that knee. Holy shit. I'm, I'm pretty sure with the new rules, he might not have had his knee all the way to the ground yet. We'd have to see it again. And it was in transition though, so he's good, right? My first instinct was that was an illegal knee.

• 1:35:03Speaker 02

  But he kinda, I think he knocked him down first, Joe.

• 1:35:06Joe Rogan?

  He definitely did. Oh yeah. He definitely did, but Tafa looks mad.

• 1:35:15Joe Rogan?

  He's upset, I think that they stopped it or is it the knee? It's the elbow that put his ass down.

• 1:35:20Speaker 02

  He wasn't defending himself.

• 1:35:21Joe Rogan?

  It was, it was, but that knee. But it was in transition, Joe. Here we go, here we go. If it's in transition, I think you're good. Perhaps. It depends on how much time has elapsed, right? Between the shots. Shot a high double.

• 1:35:35Joe Rogan?

  So, there's the knee to the body.

• 1:35:36Speaker 01

  Watch his elbow.

• 1:35:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the elbow is nasty.

• 1:35:38Speaker 01

  It's nasty.

• 1:35:39Joe Rogan?

  That's a nasty knee too. Boom! Oh my goodness.

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  Hook his nose.

• 1:35:43Joe Rogan?

  It was perfect.

• 1:35:43Speaker 01

  It looked like-

• 1:35:44Joe Rogan?

  Right there. See, fully down, fully down.

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  Hit his body though, didn't he?

• 1:35:47Speaker 01

  Knee to the body though.

• 1:35:48Joe Rogan?

  It did it? I thought it hit the head.

• 1:35:49Speaker 01

  Nah, see.

• 1:35:49Joe Rogan?

  Let's see it again.

• 1:35:50Speaker 01

  Look at his nose.

• 1:35:50Speaker 03

  This for sure breaks his nose.

• 1:35:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, that's insane.

• 1:35:52Speaker 01

  Boom!

• 1:35:53Joe Rogan?

  That's so good.

• 1:35:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:35:53Joe Rogan?

  That's so good.

• 1:35:55Speaker 01

  Ohhh!

• 1:35:56Joe Rogan?

  100%, bro, 100%. That nose is gone.

• 1:35:59Speaker 03

  And then watch the knee here, it hits it.

• 1:36:02Joe Rogan?

  We'll see it again.

• 1:36:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, that elbow's nasty. Boom, oh no man, that's in the head. That knee's in the head.

• 1:36:09Speaker 01

  Is it?

• 1:36:10Joe Rogan?

  It looked like it right there, am I wrong?

• 1:36:12Speaker 02

  Um, I couldn't see. I, I do think that he was already covering himself up.

• 1:36:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, listen, it was all she wrote.

• 1:36:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:19Joe Rogan?

  That elbow was all she wrote. That elbow probably broke his face.

• 1:36:22Speaker 03

  If you're Taffy, can't be mad. It's not like that knee in the fight.

• 1:36:26Speaker 01

  Now we got the co-main in main, I'm gonna use the head real quick.

• 1:36:28Speaker 03

  Ooh, let's go!

• 1:36:30Speaker 01

  Use the head real quick.

• 1:36:31Speaker 03

  I hope Tatiana just fucking mollywops her.

• 1:36:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't know man, I'm a big fan of Zhong Weili.

• 1:36:36Speaker 03

  Nah, Tatiana-

• 1:36:37Speaker 02

  So Zhong Weili's been training with those two guys from the, that gym in Thailand with those two guys from Iowa? Those two wrestlers, they're brothers?

• 1:36:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, yeah, those guys, and what gym is that? Which one?

• 1:36:47Speaker 02

  Bang, Bang, I think it's called Bang Tao.

• 1:36:49Joe Rogan?

  Bang Tao?

• 1:36:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, there's not enough hours in the day for her to compete in grappling against Tatiana Sweller.

• 1:36:55Joe Rogan?

  That's true, but she might-

• 1:36:56Speaker 02

  But you can practice like, neutralizing.

• 1:36:58Joe Rogan?

  Pace, pace and defense. Cause like if she can survive and then get into the third, fourth, and fifth round, that lady's an animal.

• 1:37:04Speaker 02

  Yes, great athlete.

• 1:37:04Joe Rogan?

  And on the feet though-

• 1:37:05Speaker 03

  She's gonna choke the fuck out.

• 1:37:06Joe Rogan?

  True.

• 1:37:07Speaker 03

  In the first round.

• 1:37:08Joe Rogan?

  Look, it's gonna be exciting, I'm excited. But, on the feet, Zhong Weili is a fucking monster and she puts bitches away.

• 1:37:13Speaker 03

  Tatiana's not bad on the feet.

• 1:37:14Joe Rogan?

  No disrespect to the ladies.

• 1:37:16Speaker 03

  Uh.

• 1:37:16Joe Rogan?

  When they push-

• 1:37:17Speaker 03

  But here's-

• 1:37:18Joe Rogan?

  I mean with all due respect.

• 1:37:19Speaker 03

  Here's the thing about Tatiana, her striking's not bad either. Like she's no punk that up there.

• 1:37:24Joe Rogan?

  And she's tall. Tall and long.

• 1:37:25Speaker 03

  She's big, and have you seen what she does to girls on the ground?

• 1:37:28Joe Rogan?

  Mauls 'em.

• 1:37:29Speaker 03

  M-m-mauls 'em.

• 1:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Mauls 'em. It's just like, the early days of the UFC when elite wrestlers would take people down.

• 1:37:34Speaker 03

  You're fucked.

• 1:37:35Joe Rogan?

  The early days. But, look at the size of that dude.

• 1:37:38Speaker 02

  She's been drawn.

• 1:37:39Joe Rogan?

  It's a big fella.

• 1:37:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a giant.

• 1:37:41Speaker 03

  That guy in the back looks like he's seen some combat.

• 1:37:43Joe Rogan?

  So that guy just rose to the top of the heap? I'll tell you what, he's a fucking problem.

• 1:37:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a problem.

• 1:37:47Joe Rogan?

  But let's see what his ground game is like. Cause Aspinall is, Aspinall's fast as fuck.

• 1:37:52Speaker 03

  He's a black belt too.

• 1:37:53Joe Rogan?

  Black belt on the ground.

• 1:37:54Speaker 03

  Nah, get this, get zero gone. Keep it, keep it exciting, give him a serial gun.

• 1:37:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have to, you can't give him a maspero right away from Tafa. But this is his introduction, right? How many fights has he had in the UFC now?

• 1:38:09Speaker 03

  That was his debut. But he, but all 7-0, 7 finishes, like he's a prospect.

• 1:38:14Joe Rogan?

  So what we have now is some new blood. Now we gotta get some more. You know who they should try to get? I don't know if he's out of his contract, is Nemkov.

• 1:38:22Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:38:22Joe Rogan?

  Nemkov is good, dude. Nemkov was the, he was 205, right? But then he moved up to heavyweight. This Russian cat. He's fucking good, man.

• 1:38:32Speaker 03

  He's a pro, he's really good.

• 1:38:33Joe Rogan?

  Real good, super well-rounded all around.

• 1:38:37Speaker 03

  Bellator.

• 1:38:37Speaker 02

  I'm very curious to see what Onkola.

• 1:38:39Speaker 03

  PFL took over Bellator's contracts and they're releasing everyone like a fucking Sunday sale.

• 1:38:43Joe Rogan?

  I hope we get Aaron Pico. I hope we get Aaron Pico.

• 1:38:45Speaker 03

  Aaron Pico's a free agent.

• 1:38:46Joe Rogan?

  I hope we get Aaron Pico.

• 1:38:47Speaker 03

  I hope GFL gets him.

• 1:38:48Joe Rogan?

  Uh, fuck off. I hope we get, he's wasted all his time.

• 1:38:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:38:53Joe Rogan?

  His other organs, people don't know how good that kid is.

• 1:38:55Speaker 03

  He's so good.

• 1:38:56Speaker 02

  He got, he got.

• 1:38:56Joe Rogan?

  Animal.

• 1:38:57Speaker 03

  No, see, this is the problem. He had struggles and then won like nine in a row. You got it twisted.

• 1:39:02Joe Rogan?

  You're out of the loop.

• 1:39:03Speaker 03

  They pushed him too soon, too fast. In, in, uh, Matt Squigardt, I was working Matt Squigardt. He lost, he got Cotton and Gillotine. He's one of shit.

• 1:39:11Joe Rogan?

  He was a young guy, he was like 20 years old.

• 1:39:13Speaker 02

  He was fucking wrestling internationally at 16 years old.

• 1:39:15Joe Rogan?

  Why are you yelling at him?

• 1:39:16Speaker 03

  And boxing with Freddie Roach.

• 1:39:18Joe Rogan?

  He's just yelling at you, man.

• 1:39:19Speaker 02

  No, he's a.

• 1:39:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't even understand. Olivetta!

• 1:39:23Joe Rogan?

  Look at that.

• 1:39:23Speaker 03

  Tatyasova.

• 1:39:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh man, Tatyasova tried to drink out of my shoe.

• 1:39:27Speaker 03

  Do you know, uh, it's Kyle in the back.

• 1:39:29Joe Rogan?

  You can't drink out of my shoe.

• 1:39:30Speaker 03

  I did a, I did a shoe with him, it was disgusting.

• 1:39:33Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no.

• 1:39:34Speaker 03

  You know they, they put a, I threw up, I threw up.

• 1:39:36Joe Rogan?

  It's so weird. It's like thinking how much ass you've eaten in your life.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  Not doing that shit.

• 1:39:39Joe Rogan?

  But that's different.

• 1:39:41Speaker 03

  It's a good way to put it.

• 1:39:43Joe Rogan?

  It's a guy's spit.

• 1:39:44Speaker 02

  That's the last thing I thought about.

• 1:39:45Joe Rogan?

  It's nasty. Here it is, baby.

• 1:39:47Speaker 02

  I don't care if you ate ass or not.

• 1:39:48Joe Rogan?

  I love this lady. She's such a fucking savage.

• 1:39:51Speaker 02

  Savage, dude.

• 1:39:52Joe Rogan?

  She's so ferocious. Her drive too. Ooh, Tatiana's looking sharp.

• 1:39:56Speaker 03

  She's gonna fuck her up.

• 1:39:57Joe Rogan?

  Like immediately look big.

• 1:39:58Speaker 03

  And they both had long layoffs too.

• 1:40:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's a fucking hoss, dude. She's a problem, problem on the ground. So what, uh, injuries did she have? She had quite a few injuries.

• 1:40:07Speaker 03

  Neck injury was the main one.

• 1:40:08Joe Rogan?

  Was it a surgery?

• 1:40:09Speaker 03

  I think so, yeah.

• 1:40:10Joe Rogan?

  What'd they do?

• 1:40:11Speaker 03

  I'm not sure. They had to fuse the disc.

• 1:40:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:40:14Speaker 03

  Super bad neck injury.

• 1:40:16Joe Rogan?

  They fused it?

• 1:40:16Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 1:40:16Joe Rogan?

  My goodness.

• 1:40:17Speaker 02

  Yikes.

• 1:40:18Joe Rogan?

  A lot of guys have the fucking fake disc. I mean, Aljo had the fake disc and came back better than ever. Like Aljo got an artificial disc in his neck and then then beat he beat Peter Yan bad in the rematch. Manhandled him.

• 1:40:32Speaker 01

  And Tatiana's thing is she won, let me think, she won Ultimate Fight, I think twenty-four in two thousand sixteen?

• 1:40:39Joe Rogan?

  Wow, isn't that crazy?

• 1:40:41Speaker 01

  And then she's had such a long layoff because of all the injuries.

• 1:40:43Speaker 02

  Did you see this Anthony Mackie, he's playing Captain America and he said, uh, he goes, the, I'm playing Captain America, but he said something like, basically, um, but.

• 1:40:52Speaker 01

  He's not for America.

• 1:40:53Speaker 02

  Yes, he basically said, uh, but it makes no sense because Amer- Captain America is for justice and for fair play and all that.

• 1:41:00Speaker 01

  Cool, move to Ukraine.

• 1:41:01Speaker 02

  Well, it was a problem, it was a big problem, man, it was a, it was a PR crisis.

• 1:41:05Speaker 01

  That guy's not my Captain America.

• 1:41:06Joe Rogan?

  No, that's not my Captain.

• 1:41:07Speaker 01

  Pussy.

• 1:41:08Joe Rogan?

  That's a giant pussy. Isn't it weird that they feel like they have to say stuff like that to keep working?

• 1:41:13Speaker 02

  It's weird.

• 1:41:14Joe Rogan?

  But the movie studio goes, hey fuckface.

• 1:41:16Speaker 02

  It's not good for numbers.

• 1:41:17Joe Rogan?

  Now Americans aren't gonna go to fucking Captain America?

• 1:41:19Speaker 02

  It's terrible for numbers.

• 1:41:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, he's out. You know who really fucked up? Batista. He went all in against Trump. Remember he did that video calling him a little bitch and all those different things?

• 1:41:29Speaker 01

  What was that about?

• 1:41:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he did the whole thing where he's working out, you're a little bitch.

• 1:41:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:33Joe Rogan?

  You're a little fat, you look like a bag of milk and fucking hitting the bag, doing working out, fucking looking jacked.

• 1:41:38Speaker 02

  Better to stay out of politics if you're an actor.

• 1:41:40Speaker 01

  Hey, did you guys see the new Superman trailer? Did you see that shit?

• 1:41:45Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:41:45Joe Rogan?

  No, is it good?

• 1:41:46Speaker 01

  Come on, man, you'll get your nipples hard.

• 1:41:47Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:41:48Speaker 01

  Joe, did you see it?

• 1:41:49Speaker 02

  No, I'm a grown man.

• 1:41:50Speaker 01

  Could you, could you please stop being such a fucking?

• 1:41:53Speaker 02

  I'm with you.

• 1:41:54Joe Rogan?

  Lighter fluid?

• 1:41:54Speaker 02

  Who's playing Superman? Is it, uh, Henry Cavill?

• 1:41:57Speaker 01

  Don't tell me you're not gonna watch that movie.

• 1:41:58Joe Rogan?

  Watch, watch my lips. I am not gonna watch that movie.

• 1:42:02Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:42:03Joe Rogan?

  No, I think Superman is stupid.

• 1:42:04Speaker 01

  It depends who the Superman is.

• 1:42:05Joe Rogan?

  I think it's just like living in space. If you were living in space, you're, you're, eventually your body would decay. It wouldn't work.

• 1:42:12Speaker 01

  You're talking about fucking superheroes.

• 1:42:14Joe Rogan?

  If you have, there's no, you're a comfortable place with more gravity, it's not gonna be good for you on Earth.

• 1:42:19Speaker 02

  I'm on mass train, fuck that.

• 1:42:20Joe Rogan?

  When you get back to your planet, you're not even gonna be able to walk.

• 1:42:23Speaker 01

  All right.

• 1:42:24Speaker 02

  Hold on, look at him now, look at him.

• 1:42:25Speaker 01

  Captain negativity.

• 1:42:26Joe Rogan?

  He can go back, he can make the world go back in time because he can go so fast in a circle.

• 1:42:31Speaker 02

  Look at him though, he's cold and he's getting pissed.

• 1:42:32Joe Rogan?

  But he's from another planet.

• 1:42:33Speaker 01

  What happened to the original Superman?

• 1:42:35Speaker 02

  Hold on.

• 1:42:38Joe Rogan?

  He got fucking The guy who wrote the war?

• 1:42:39Speaker 01

  The guy!

• 1:42:40Joe Rogan?

  What'd he say? Which one is?

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  Matt, Matt, I'm with you on this.

• 1:42:42Joe Rogan?

  No, not Christopher Reeve, he's paralyzed. I'm talking about the last guy. Oh, they've had a bunch of that.

• 1:42:47Speaker 01

  They're rebooting it.

• 1:42:48Joe Rogan?

  It's like they do Spider-Man, they have like eighty Spider-Mans.

• 1:42:51Speaker 01

  Oh, Tobey Maguire's my Spider-Man, fuck you.

• 1:42:52Speaker 02

  How many fucking Hulks have they had?

• 1:42:54Speaker 01

  They, uh, you know what happened?

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  Mark Ruffalo?

• 1:42:56Speaker 01

  That guy's

• 1:42:57Joe Rogan?

  It's politics. Makes it hard to root for the Hulk?

• 1:43:00Speaker 01

  James Gunn is rebooting the whole DC Universe.

• 1:43:03Joe Rogan?

  James Gunn's good too, they tried cancel him.

• 1:43:05Speaker 02

  Superman is breathing and stuff, he's, I mean, he's bleeding.

• 1:43:07Joe Rogan?

  You guys watch The Penguin?

• 1:43:09Speaker 01

  Yes!

• 1:43:09Joe Rogan?

  It was fucking great. This part's a little tough, I don't know how Joe's gonna take this. What? What's going on? Is he running through the storm there? No, this is probably, I haven't seen this in a super minute.

• 1:43:16Speaker 02

  If he can.

• 1:43:17Joe Rogan?

  Let me see this, a dog saves him?

• 1:43:19Speaker 01

  No, no, you're not, first of all-

• 1:43:20Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ, is that a su-

• 1:43:21Speaker 01

  You're not, you're not watching it-

• 1:43:23Joe Rogan?

  Hold on, wait a minute, is that a fucking super dog?

• 1:43:25Speaker 01

  Matthew, look at this.

• 1:43:26Joe Rogan?

  Is that a super dog?

• 1:43:27Speaker 01

  I'm out. First of all, if you're not watching it with the sound-

• 1:43:31Joe Rogan?

  That dog had a cape.

• 1:43:32Speaker 01

  Then you should just shut it off.

• 1:43:33Joe Rogan?

  That dog had a cape.

• 1:43:34Speaker 01

  It doesn't do it justice.

• 1:43:35Joe Rogan?

  Does the dog fly? Lex Luthor?

• 1:43:38Speaker 01

  Can I?

• 1:43:38Joe Rogan?

  No, you said Lex Cooper.

• 1:43:40Speaker 01

  So I just tell you-

• 1:43:41Speaker 02

  I'm cigar drunk, I'm cigar drunk.

• 1:43:42Joe Rogan?

  He's like, "Yeah, I, I, I have a Porsche."

• 1:43:45Speaker 01

  That's Guy Gardner, by the way.

• 1:43:46Joe Rogan?

  Porsche 912.

• 1:43:47Speaker 01

  There's Hulk, girl.

• 1:43:49Speaker 02

  Shut up, listen guys, this is serious.

• 1:43:51Joe Rogan?

  You like Zuckermork with the bows?

• 1:43:52Speaker 02

  There's kissing, there's kissing, there's ice.

• 1:43:54Joe Rogan?

  Same, same energy.

• 1:43:55Speaker 01

  Same vibe. Same vibe. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

• 1:43:58Joe Rogan?

  Look, it's got super dogs dragging him to safety, it's over.

• 1:44:01Speaker 01

  Listen to me.

• 1:44:02Joe Rogan?

  The dog, I love dogs.

• 1:44:03Speaker 01

  It watches with the sound.

• 1:44:04Joe Rogan?

  Look at the dog. Why is the dog able to drag him?

• 1:44:06Speaker 02

  You fucking, you communist, you don't like dogs, what the fuck?

• 1:44:07Joe Rogan?

  Why is that dog able to drag him? Oh, he's kissing that girl in space, oh, you big show-off. He's taking that girl up in the sky to make out with her.

• 1:44:14Speaker 01

  Hey Matt, the dog's a bad choice, huh?

• 1:44:16Speaker 02

  Admit that. Yeah. Matt kinda took me, the dog took me out of it.

• 1:44:18Speaker 01

  I thought the dog would be a bad choice.

• 1:44:21Speaker 02

  I thought the dog.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  But...

• 1:44:23Speaker 02

  I thought the dog was a bad choice, I don't know that.

• 1:44:26Speaker 01

  I don't think James Gunn could do any wrong.

• 1:44:28Joe Rogan?

  I agree. He's great.

• 1:44:29Speaker 01

  James Gunn-

• 1:44:30Joe Rogan?

  He's the man, he's the man.

• 1:44:31Speaker 01

  Look, all three Guardians of the Galaxies were fucking great.

• 1:44:34Joe Rogan?

  Phenomenal, phenomenal.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  He knows how to make you care about characters that you never heard about.

• 1:44:39Joe Rogan?

  I don't care about that dog.

• 1:44:40Speaker 02

  Like a fucking, like a raccoon.

• 1:44:41Joe Rogan?

  That fake Superman dog, look, in the comic books, it's Superman dog.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Did you like Guardians of the Galaxy?

• 1:44:45Joe Rogan?

  Crypto, the super dog.

• 1:44:47Speaker 01

  Did you like?

• 1:44:47Speaker 02

  Here's a dog, he drags, he drags Superman.

• 1:44:50Speaker 01

  Did you like Guardians of the Galaxy?

• 1:44:52Joe Rogan?

  I did.

• 1:44:53Speaker 01

  Oh, well, there's a talking raccoon. How could you watch that?

• 1:44:56Joe Rogan?

  I loved it.

• 1:44:56Speaker 03

  Talking tree.

• 1:44:57Speaker 02

  You know what, you know what, dude? You know what, if anybody can make a super dog awesome, it's James Gunn.

• 1:45:03Speaker 01

  James Gunn?

• 1:45:04Joe Rogan?

  Didn't they try canceling James Gunn for being mean on set?

• 1:45:06Speaker 02

  I think so, yeah.

• 1:45:07Speaker 01

  Did they?

• 1:45:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was like, what?

• 1:45:09Speaker 01

  Nah, I think it was some like tweets he did back in the day or some shit.

• 1:45:12Speaker 02

  Some bullshit.

• 1:45:13Joe Rogan?

  Whoopsies.

• 1:45:13Speaker 01

  But, uh, anyway.

• 1:45:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was saying funny things.

• 1:45:17Speaker 01

  We're all looking forward to it.

• 1:45:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, except me.

• 1:45:21Joe Rogan?

  I'm confused. I stopped rooting for the Hulk when he started wearing glasses. I was like, you're lying to me. This is not the Hulk.

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  No, no, they kept.

• 1:45:28Joe Rogan?

  You can't have the Hulk where he's got Bruce Banner's fucking brain and the Hulk's body.

• 1:45:32Speaker 02

  He has bad eyesight.

• 1:45:33Joe Rogan?

  It's supposed to be, he changes and now he's this fucking ferocious monster.

• 1:45:38Speaker 01

  It's true.

• 1:45:38Joe Rogan?

  And he doesn't remember what fucking happened.

• 1:45:40Speaker 02

  Wait, now you're talking my language? You're saying?

• 1:45:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the new Hulk has glasses and he, he, he lost, he lost weight and he got shorter.

• 1:45:46Speaker 01

  Well, listen, he lost the fight to Thanos and he became a pussy.

• 1:45:50Joe Rogan?

  I'll tell you what, the 2008 Hulk was pretty good.

• 1:45:52Speaker 02

  What size?

• 1:45:53Joe Rogan?

  That was the one with, uh, Ed Norton and Hickson Gracie?

• 1:45:56Speaker 03

  I like 1977.

• 1:45:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was a good one. That Hulk was awesome.

• 1:45:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:00Speaker 03

  I like the 1977.

• 1:46:01Speaker 02

  Eric Bana, right?

• 1:46:02Speaker 03

  Such a pussy.

• 1:46:02Speaker 02

  Eric Bana was great.

• 1:46:03Joe Rogan?

  You know the real problem? He was all right. The, I think Ed Norton was the best one. But here's the problem is the pants. The pants don't make any goddamn sense. How are they standing? I want to see that big green dick just swinging around while he's smashing things. There's no way he's wearing 160 pound dude's pants.

• 1:46:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, facts.

• 1:46:18Joe Rogan?

  That don't make no sense.

• 1:46:19Speaker 01

  Facts.

• 1:46:19Joe Rogan?

  He weighs 8,000 pounds. He's as big as a fucking building and somehow none of the pants cover his dick.

• 1:46:24Speaker 02

  It'd be great if his dick stayed the same size.

• 1:46:25Joe Rogan?

  Look at the size of him.

• 1:46:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:26Joe Rogan?

  That's the Hulk.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  As a human.

• 1:46:27Joe Rogan?

  That's what the Hulk's supposed to look like.

• 1:46:29Speaker 01

  Smart.

• 1:46:30Speaker 03

  Do you think the studios tell Mark Ruffalo, they like, shut the fuck up, dude?

• 1:46:33Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:46:34Speaker 03

  No one's gonna go see it?

• 1:46:35Joe Rogan?

  They don't care. They're all in the bubble.

• 1:46:36Speaker 02

  Who's that?

• 1:46:37Speaker 03

  Mark Ruffalo, the most woke guy ever.

• 1:46:40Joe Rogan?

  Politics.

• 1:46:40Speaker 02

  I like him as an actor, though.

• 1:46:42Joe Rogan?

  He's a good actor.

• 1:46:42Speaker 01

  Great actor. He's a great fox catcher.

• 1:46:44Joe Rogan?

  Crazy, they're crazy people.

• 1:46:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:46Speaker 01

  I thought, I thought Edward Norton was good.

• 1:46:48Joe Rogan?

  Edward Norton was my favorite.

• 1:46:49Speaker 01

  They had Hickson in there fucking breathing.

• 1:46:51Joe Rogan?

  Yes, smacked him in the face.

• 1:46:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:46:53Joe Rogan?

  Trying to keep him calm. Remember that?

• 1:46:55Speaker 01

  He's gotta make sure he keeps his control.

• 1:46:58Joe Rogan?

  Bennett wasn't bad, but look, that's smart Hulk. Hulk is smart now.

• 1:47:02Speaker 01

  Oh, She-Hulk was a pile of shit. She-Hulk was a woke pile of shit, oh.

• 1:47:07Joe Rogan?

  Was it woke?

• 1:47:08Speaker 01

  Oh, it was woke. There's a guy looking to...

• 1:47:10Joe Rogan?

  Thank god that's over.

• 1:47:11Speaker 01

  There's one, oh, fuck, it was brutal.

• 1:47:14Joe Rogan?

  Thank god that's over. It's over.

• 1:47:16Speaker 02

  It's definitely over.

• 1:47:17Joe Rogan?

  It's gonna be illegal soon.

• 1:47:18Speaker 01

  Here she comes. New champ, I'm calling it. What do you think?

• 1:47:21Joe Rogan?

  Trump's gonna be being woke, literally illegal.

• 1:47:24Speaker 03

  Champ for a while too.

• 1:47:24Joe Rogan?

  Did you hear what he said about Prince Harry? They were asking him if he was gonna deport Prince Harry? Because Prince Harry talks shit about him. He goes, "No, he's having enough problems with his wife. She's terrible."

• 1:47:32Speaker 01

  Oh, he's funny.

• 1:47:33Speaker 02

  He's so funny.

• 1:47:34Joe Rogan?

  Animal. They asked him if he was gonna deport Prince Harry.

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  Say what you will, he's still, he's a funny fucking dude.

• 1:47:40Speaker 01

  Look at the focus in this girl's eyes.

• 1:47:42Speaker 03

  She's such a beast, dude. You just gotta worry about the injuries, you know? If the neck's gonna rot.

• 1:47:47Joe Rogan?

  Right, where's she at now?

• 1:47:48Speaker 03

  Because she's fallen out of two fights and he said, "Fuck it, it's go time, give her a title shot."

• 1:47:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's so hard to know if she can even get through a camp, right? It's so hard to know with these people when they have like real bad injuries. And then after the fight, they'll tell you like, "My camp was a shambles, I couldn't do anything."

• 1:48:02Speaker 01

  Why'd I bet on you?

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  I had a broken foot.

• 1:48:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, how about like Aspinall wins the title? He couldn't train. He couldn't wrestle. At all, for like 11, he takes a fight 11 days out. That's right, no need.

• 1:48:13Speaker 03

  Blown out fucking knee.

• 1:48:14Joe Rogan?

  Blown out and he tapes it up, yep, takes it up and decides to take him to the ground.

• 1:48:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:48:17Joe Rogan?

  Takes Cyril Gahn to the ground and wrestles him and just show, show that he's evolving.

• 1:48:21Speaker 02

  Colby Covington broke his foot in the first round, that, uh...

• 1:48:24Speaker 03

  That was in the fight though, that's different.

• 1:48:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but still, it was just a really bad break.

• 1:48:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, but that's in the fight.

• 1:48:28Speaker 01

  Bro, how good did Joa- how good did Joaquin Buckley look against Colby?

• 1:48:32Speaker 03

  Ah, dude.

• 1:48:33Joe Rogan?

  Joaquin Buckley's a problem.

• 1:48:35Speaker 03

  Is Joaquin that good? Is Colby...

• 1:48:36Speaker 02

  Well, he knocked out, uh, Wonder Boy.

• 1:48:39Joe Rogan?

  He's that good.

• 1:48:40Speaker 03

  He's fucking good.

• 1:48:41Joe Rogan?

  He's fucking dangerous at 170 and he's got crazy cardio at 170.

• 1:48:46Speaker 03

  I still want to see him and Ian Gary.

• 1:48:47Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:48:48Speaker 03

  Because that was originally supposed to go down and then they swapped them.

• 1:48:50Speaker 02

  And Ian Gary's fucking amazing.

• 1:48:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, that would be a...

• 1:48:53Speaker 03

  Real good fight. Think about Ian Gary beat MVP. MVP looked great against him. MVP is awesome.

• 1:48:58Joe Rogan?

  Bro, MVP is the fucking man. That against Shara Bullet, that was incredible. And at eighty-five, eighty-five.

• 1:49:05Speaker 03

  No, he wants to go up to two oh five and fight Yuri. My thing is do it. Make the fun fights like Cowboy Cerrone style. Do the fun fights.

• 1:49:11Joe Rogan?

  Then come back down.

• 1:49:12Speaker 03

  Do two oh five and then come back.

• 1:49:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, let's go.

• 1:49:13Speaker 03

  You don't want to fight the big boys. Yuri's a thin two oh fiber.

• 1:49:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, but Yuri is a different thing.

• 1:49:19Speaker 03

  The style matchup though?

• 1:49:20Joe Rogan?

  It's, well, it'd be very exciting. Here's the thing. On the outside, no one can touch MVP. You can't close the distance like he can. He's got that elite point fighting style. I always said that, like, that's gonna be the next problem is point fighters. Because they got that blitz, that ability to cover the distance. It's so fast.

• 1:49:37Speaker 03

  Knockout power.

• 1:49:38Joe Rogan?

  Some of them do.

• 1:49:39Speaker 03

  Name one that does. Wonder Boy?

• 1:49:42Joe Rogan?

  Wonder Boy had a point fighting style. I mean, he basically started out in karate, you know, and then developed as a kick boxer, above the leg kick boxer.

• 1:49:50Speaker 03

  When he got to the elite level, he was at knocking guys out.

• 1:49:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, he couldn't wrestle with them. The problem is like Matt the Immortal Brown was the first guy to expose his ground game. Remember that?

• 1:49:58Speaker 03

  His nickname, yeah.

• 1:49:59Joe Rogan?

  He took him down and smashed him.

• 1:50:01Speaker 03

  That was his first fight in the UFC, wasn't it?

• 1:50:02Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. No, the first fight was a KO. He got that guy with that over the shoulder kick where he like.

• 1:50:07Speaker 03

  Maybe his second though. It was early on.

• 1:50:09Joe Rogan?

  Went down with that round. It was very early on, very early on. When he knocked out Jake Ellenberger with that wheel kick, Jake Ellenberger was like making fun of spinning shit.

• 1:50:17Speaker 03

  He said the karate, yeah, that's funny.

• 1:50:19Joe Rogan?

  Making fun of spinning things. He's like, I hope he does. I hope he does try to hit me with a wheel kick.

• 1:50:22Speaker 03

  He knocked him out with it.

• 1:50:23Joe Rogan?

  Boom.

• 1:50:24Speaker 03

  And then remember Wonder Boy beat Robert Whittaker at one seventy. Then Robert Whittaker at eighty-five. Robert Whittaker was way too big for one seventy. He was dying down there. Just dying.

• 1:50:33Speaker 01

  Wonder Boy's sidekick is the nicest in the business.

• 1:50:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so smooth. And it's so like, it comes off the ground effortlessly. It just sticks you in the gut. Yeah, just like a jab. His right leg forward when he he he throws it that way, it's fucking so nasty. And it's so hard to deal with. Because he can do all the other stuff too. So it's like, and he also, Wonderboy was one of the best ever. At leaning his head back like a fucking snake. And then firing at you as he's moving backwards.

• 1:51:02Speaker 03

  See, I feel like MVP doesn't have that. Like, he's not landing those big shots like Wonderboy did. It's hard to hit.

• 1:51:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, he does on some guys. You also gotta realize like-

• 1:51:10Speaker 03

  Not in UFC.

• 1:51:11Joe Rogan?

  No, not, not KOing guys yet, but like what he did to Cyborg, it's a wake up call for everybody alive.

• 1:51:18Speaker 03

  Sir Cyborg was seventy-seven years old?

• 1:51:20Joe Rogan?

  He was a hundred and seventy-seven. But he caved his skull in.

• 1:51:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 1:51:24Joe Rogan?

  It was bad.

• 1:51:25Speaker 03

  The worst knockout ever.

• 1:51:26Joe Rogan?

  I tell you what-

• 1:51:26Speaker 03

  The x-rays are gnarly.

• 1:51:27Joe Rogan?

  Here's another guy everybody sleeps on, is um... Like, who did, like, so what were his losses?

• 1:51:35Speaker 03

  Who's?

• 1:51:36Joe Rogan?

  Um, uh, MVP.

• 1:51:38Speaker 03

  Doug, who's he lost to?

• 1:51:39Joe Rogan?

  It was Douglas Lima, it was the KO loss.

• 1:51:41Speaker 03

  He kicked his leg out. They lost a wrestler.

• 1:51:42Joe Rogan?

  That's right. But Lima was the first guy to stop him.

• 1:51:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:51:45Joe Rogan?

  Cause Lima started, Lima had, he's one of the most slept on guys at 170. He's a guy that I really wish had left Bellator.

• 1:51:52Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:51:52Joe Rogan?

  In his prime.

• 1:51:53Speaker 03

  He's with GFL?

• 1:51:55Joe Rogan?

  That's good, but how old is he now?

• 1:51:56Speaker 03

  Bellator's dead now, no?

• 1:51:57Joe Rogan?

  I haven't heard from him for a while.

• 1:51:58Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:51:59Joe Rogan?

  When's the last time he took-

• 1:52:00Speaker 03

  Contracts?

• 1:52:00Joe Rogan?

  They, they always get fights.

• 1:52:02Speaker 03

  They just sat guys on the show?

• 1:52:04Joe Rogan?

  Thirty-seven.

• 1:52:06Speaker 03

  There's still something in the tank there.

• 1:52:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was a monster in his prime.

• 1:52:10Speaker 03

  Savage.

• 1:52:10Joe Rogan?

  A monster in his prime. You remember, you remember what Ben Askren did to him?

• 1:52:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:52:14Joe Rogan?

  Ben Askren just said, "Oh, that's cute."

• 1:52:17Speaker 03

  Mollywhopped him.

• 1:52:17Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna, you're gonna enjoy wrestling now.

• 1:52:20Speaker 03

  Who'd he fight?

• 1:52:20Joe Rogan?

  Uh, Diego Lima.

• 1:52:22Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah. He has the best things out of the UFC. Yeah.

• 1:52:27Joe Rogan?

  Douglas Lima was the, it was, no disrespect, but was slightly better. Douglas was a Bellator champion. He was a beast, man. But the, the problem with that Bellator title was like, nobody cared. "I'm glad you're making money. I'm glad you're getting paid. I'm happy for everybody."

• 1:52:41Speaker 03

  It's like being CFL world champion.

• 1:52:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:44Speaker 03

  But we got the NFL.

• 1:52:45Joe Rogan?

  "It's great. I hope you're getting paid." That's the most important thing. But after that, like, if you wanna make the splash, you wanna be famous, you wanna have a legacy. You kinda gotta make it over to the UFC.

• 1:52:55Speaker 03

  If you wanna say you're the best in the world, if you're, if you're the champion anywhere else, if you're not in the UFC, you're just not the best.

• 1:52:59Joe Rogan?

  Unless you do the Francis thing. You go over there and they give you twenty million dollars a fight. You're like, and it's a big fuck you to Dana, cause you still get to box.

• 1:53:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, you get to box.

• 1:53:07Joe Rogan?

  He's but he's in a unique position like Francis's position is different than everybody's.

• 1:53:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, heavyweight.

• 1:53:12Joe Rogan?

  Heavyweight, monster, destroyer. Knocks guys out with one shot like he's always going to be thought of as the heavyweight champion. Until somebody beats him at heavyweight. You know what he did to Steve Bay and then you know he beat Cyril Gahn with a blown out knee and then just dipped lips. See you later.

• 1:53:29Speaker 03

  See, I I think pound for pound and we won't ever find out. I think Tom Aspinall is the best. I think Tom beats him.

• 1:53:35Joe Rogan?

  Who knows if John beats him? John might beat him up.

• 1:53:38Speaker 03

  He could.

• 1:53:38Joe Rogan?

  John might take him down and fucking ragdoll him on the ground like you know.

• 1:53:42Speaker 03

  John easily could. We we because we don't know how good John is either.

• 1:53:45Joe Rogan?

  And we also don't know what happens to Tom Aspinall in the third, fourth and fifth rounds. We have zero idea. No one's even gotten close.

• 1:53:51Speaker 03

  There's so many question marks that we don't know how good John is. You can't tell me John's the best of all time or he is the best goat. We can't tell him he's the baddest heavyweight on the planet after being an older Steve Bay. That's not going to do it for me.

• 1:54:04Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 1:54:05Speaker 03

  Aspinall is fucking good and he's in his prime.

• 1:54:08Speaker 01

  Cyril Gahn almost beat Francis. I know you can say the thing about the knee and uh you know Jones just smoked him.

• 1:54:15Speaker 03

  We also didn't know Frank or fucking Cyril Gahn was a fucking three stripe white belt. That's news to me.

• 1:54:23Joe Rogan?

  Did he get that third stripe?

• 1:54:25Speaker 01

  It's MMA. He's gotta be able to.

• 1:54:27Speaker 03

  I was gonna say like the Bulldog Guillotine is like, hey dude.

• 1:54:33Speaker 02

  I think he might have frozen. It feels like he froze in the big lights there.

• 1:54:36Joe Rogan?

  I think he also probably is not used to a guy that's that good getting a hold of his neck.

• 1:54:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:54:43Speaker 03

  I.

• 1:54:46Speaker 03

  At that level? World champion?

• 1:54:49Joe Rogan?

  John caught him. He caught him.

• 1:54:51Speaker 03

  I think John does that to him a hundred out of a hundred times. There's nothing, there's not enough hours in the day for Cyril to make up for it.

• 1:54:56Joe Rogan?

  It was great distance management too. John just avoided all the big shots. The timing of the shot was perfect.

• 1:55:02Speaker 02

  I can see John taking Aspinall down.

• 1:55:04Speaker 03

  You're talking about the black belt who grew up in jiu jitsu gyms like Matt?

• 1:55:08Speaker 02

  He took, he took, he took. Whose dad owned a jiu jitsu game? Twice.

• 1:55:12Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 1:55:13Speaker 02

  A two time Olympian. That's not easy.

• 1:55:14Speaker 03

  DC's not a black belt on the fucking ground.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  I wonder how he is off his back.

• 1:55:19Joe Rogan?

  How his guard is.

• 1:55:20Speaker 03

  I know.

• 1:55:20Speaker 01

  Does he have a guard?

• 1:55:21Speaker 03

  Does he have a guard?

• 1:55:22Joe Rogan?

  A lot of big guys don't have a guard.

• 1:55:23Speaker 03

  He's been doing jiu-jitsu in his diapers, man. You're talking about, they're speaking about four years old.

• 1:55:27Joe Rogan?

  You'd assume that, but man, we've seen a lot of guys who are really good and they're on their back and they got nothing. They have no answers.

• 1:55:31Speaker 03

  I agree, but as athletic as he is and growing up in that culture, your guard's not gonna be shit.

• 1:55:37Joe Rogan?

  It might not be, but you know, you know more than anybody that big guys are mostly on top when they're training.

• 1:55:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:55:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so that's the problem. Unless you're a guy that's smart about it, like Fabricio Verdun, who developed, I mean, that's a rare guy who's a big guy who developed a killer. He's my, in my top 10 of all time, I always put in Fabricio. You gotta remember, that guy tapped everybody.

• 1:55:58Speaker 03

  Dude, top 10, he, he, this argument, top 3?

• 1:56:00Joe Rogan?

  Of all time, of all time. People forget him. They're, they sleep on him when they talk about great fighters.

• 1:56:05Speaker 03

  First one to tap Fedor.

• 1:56:06Joe Rogan?

  First one to tap Kane.

• 1:56:07Speaker 03

  Bigfoot Silva, tap Kane.

• 1:56:09Joe Rogan?

  No, Kane, yeah, KO'd Mark Hunt, flying knee, remember that?

• 1:56:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:56:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, tap Kane, he, he tapped everybody. Tap Nogera.

• 1:56:16Speaker 03

  The brakes off Travis Brown in his prime.

• 1:56:18Joe Rogan?

  Yep, tapped everybody.

• 1:56:19Speaker 02

  Flying, flying sidekick.

• 1:56:21Joe Rogan?

  Sidekick to start it out, yeah. Fabricio Verdun was a bad man.

• 1:56:24Speaker 03

  So good.

• 1:56:25Joe Rogan?

  Bad man.

• 1:56:26Speaker 01

  Ah, she's gonna get it down.

• 1:56:29Speaker 03

  She's gonna get it down?

• 1:56:29Speaker 01

  She's gonna get it down, Brian!

• 1:56:32Joe Rogan?

  Okay, around.

• 1:56:33Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, she's been drilling.

• 1:56:35Speaker 03

  Second round, head arm choke, Tatiana.

• 1:56:37Speaker 01

  I'm excited to see what happens.

• 1:56:38Speaker 03

  I was thinking second round.

• 1:56:39Speaker 01

  Boy, Tatiana looks big.

• 1:56:40Joe Rogan?

  She's big.

• 1:56:41Speaker 03

  She's such a problem. Wish she had any of that neck to hold up.

• 1:56:44Joe Rogan?

  Here we go, here we go, here we go!

• 1:56:46Speaker 01

  She's been wrestling since a kid, man.

• 1:56:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, but, she's been a bang.

• 1:56:50Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:56:51Speaker 02

  Just saying, bro.

• 1:56:52Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 1:56:52Speaker 03

  She's been in, she's what?

• 1:56:53Speaker 02

  Been wrestling with some Iowa wrestlers, bro. Calm down.

• 1:56:56Joe Rogan?

  Here we go.

• 1:56:57Speaker 03

  What, what, what?

• 1:56:58Speaker 02

  She's been, she's been.

• 1:56:59Speaker 03

  Okay, watch, watch.

• 1:57:00Joe Rogan?

  Brian, who's your call? Who's your call, Brian?

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  I'm going with, I'm going with China.

• 1:57:03Speaker 03

  You're such a piece of shit.

• 1:57:04Joe Rogan?

  Brendan Schaub, America?

• 1:57:05Speaker 03

  Tatiana, all American all day, you piece of, communist, piece of shit.

• 1:57:09Joe Rogan?

  You know what, for funsies, I'm going with John Wee Lee because I'm right here with Brian.

• 1:57:13Speaker 02

  Ah, yeah, baby, come on.

• 1:57:14Joe Rogan?

  Let's see what happens.

• 1:57:15Speaker 02

  Let's go. Communist on this side, Americans.

• 1:57:18Joe Rogan?

  I'm going with the champ. Who's the superior striker?

• 1:57:22Speaker 02

  Look at her, look at her. Listen, man.

• 1:57:24Joe Rogan?

  Dangerous striker.

• 1:57:25Speaker 01

  Wayley probably have a little advantage on the feet, but.

• 1:57:27Speaker 02

  Oh, now you're coming over, huh? Now you're coming over, peer pressure.

• 1:57:29Joe Rogan?

  Lot more championship experience, son.

• 1:57:31Speaker 01

  They both have a little ring rust, they both have them fighting hot.

• 1:57:33Speaker 02

  You're making excuses now, bro.

• 1:57:34Speaker 01

  I'm just saying, there's ring rust.

• 1:57:35Joe Rogan?

  But, but in terms of experience, there's no comparison.

• 1:57:38Speaker 01

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:57:39Joe Rogan?

  Jean Wayley has fought the best of the best and had fucking wars. I mean, she's had some fucking wars. That Yonja J. Chick fight? Holy shit.

• 1:57:48Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, that was crazy.

• 1:57:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness. Look at this shit! Tatiana gets it right away.

• 1:57:53Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 1:57:54Joe Rogan?

  Right away, son.

• 1:57:55Speaker 01

  How's that Iowa wrestling, you?

• 1:57:56Joe Rogan?

  Right away, son.

• 1:57:58Speaker 03

  You two almost dropped.

• 1:57:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:58:00Speaker 03

  I almost called you a maggot.

• 1:58:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 1:58:01Speaker 03

  I almost called you a maggot.

• 1:58:02Joe Rogan?

  Look how big she looks.

• 1:58:04Speaker 02

  A maggot? Why'd you call her a maggot?

• 1:58:06Speaker 03

  You know what I mean.

• 1:58:07Joe Rogan?

  Bro, she, she looks like a 135'er. She don't look like a, a strawweight. She looks like a bantamweight.

• 1:58:14Speaker 02

  But Wayley's been working this position, believe me.

• 1:58:16Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:58:17Speaker 03

  Did the Iowa wrestlers help her off her back?

• 1:58:19Speaker 01

  Let's see if she gets in the crucifix too.

• 1:58:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's just gonna get.

• 1:58:23Speaker 01

  Go for that.

• 1:58:23Speaker 02

  Oh, Jesus.

• 1:58:24Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this ain't good. Brian, how you feeling?

• 1:58:27Speaker 01

  How's the communist feeling?

• 1:58:29Joe Rogan?

  I always did it to go along with Brian.

• 1:58:31Speaker 02

  She's turtling, guys, she's turtling.

• 1:58:31Joe Rogan?

  I was just rooting for the champion.

• 1:58:33Speaker 02

  I'm very persuasive.

• 1:58:34Joe Rogan?

  I'm just rooting for the champion.

• 1:58:36Speaker 02

  I'm incredibly persuasive.

• 1:58:37Joe Rogan?

  Let's see if she survives. So, right now, we just gotta squeeze. We gotta top, top pressure.

• 1:58:42Speaker 02

  Just squeeze, we've been here before.

• 1:58:43Joe Rogan?

  No shots.

• 1:58:44Speaker 02

  We train this.

• 1:58:44Joe Rogan?

  No land, nothing landed.

• 1:58:46Speaker 02

  We've been here. I sound like Steven Seagal.

• 1:58:48Joe Rogan?

  Full guard.

• 1:58:48Speaker 02

  We've been here, we, we worked this.

• 1:58:50Joe Rogan?

  Trying to work those butterflies.

• 1:58:51Speaker 02

  Here it is, work the butterfly.

• 1:58:53Joe Rogan?

  She's dealing with a different.

• 1:58:54Speaker 01

  She passed that knee line again.

• 1:58:55Joe Rogan?

  Different kind of pressure.

• 1:58:56Speaker 02

  Matt, what do we do here?

• 1:58:58Speaker 01

  For who?

• 1:58:59Speaker 02

  For, for my guy, for my girl.

• 1:59:01Speaker 01

  Well, see how she's holding on with that left arm?

• 1:59:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't see gender, I don't see gender.

• 1:59:09Speaker 01

  She's not doing a big job.

• 1:59:11Joe Rogan?

  Good job.

• 1:59:12Speaker 02

  Look at this, over under, that's it, Wayley.

• 1:59:15Speaker 01

  She's gotta float her up and back. Ah, that's not a good sign.

• 1:59:17Speaker 02

  We'll get up, we'll get up.

• 1:59:17Speaker 01

  Pass the knee line again.

• 1:59:19Joe Rogan?

  She can't get out of this, man. She's dealing with a different kind of pressure.

• 1:59:22Speaker 02

  Just tiring her out.

• 1:59:23Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, Brian. The person getting tired is definitely gonna be Jean Wayley.

• 1:59:28Speaker 01

  The left arm, she's coming across and that. underneath to the far shoulder.

• 1:59:31Joe Rogan?

  She's gotta struggle real hard just to not get smushed here on the bottom.

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  We worked those, we worked those. That's it, soften them up.

• 1:59:38Speaker 03

  She's controlled by wrapping around the waist, but then doesn't.

• 1:59:41Joe Rogan?

  What are you talking about?

• 1:59:42Speaker 02

  She's carrying the target, bro.

• 1:59:44Joe Rogan?

  Her chest is compressed, she can barely breathe.

• 1:59:46Speaker 02

  No, she's okay, she's just holding on over there. That's it, we're comfortable down.

• 1:59:49Speaker 01

  Ready, she's gonna pass these butterfly hooks again.

• 1:59:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but this is a clear round for Tatiana, bro. The entire round has been on top.

• 1:59:56Speaker 03

  And that Iowa wrestling, she took it down in forty seconds.

• 1:59:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, forty five.

• 2:00:01Speaker 02

  We got her, we got her.

• 2:00:01Joe Rogan?

  It wasn't even, it was probably thirty.

• 2:00:04Speaker 01

  She's gonna pass that knee line again, look at her stuff that, look at that. Look, yeah, look stuffed it.

• 2:00:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:09Speaker 03

  Side control, set up the submission, isolate the arm.

• 2:00:13Speaker 01

  She didn't even have to work for the takedown either, so.

• 2:00:15Joe Rogan?

  No, and she could probably do that all day long.

• 2:00:17Speaker 01

  All day. She made it look easy, man.

• 2:00:20Joe Rogan?

  How, what does she walk around at?

• 2:00:21Speaker 03

  Two ten.

• 2:00:27Speaker 01

  Let's see her low pass here.

• 2:00:29Speaker 02

  Oh, look at this.

• 2:00:30Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Look at that flow.

• 2:00:31Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 2:00:32Joe Rogan?

  Nice, right of the side control.

• 2:00:33Speaker 01

  Yep, yep.

• 2:00:34Joe Rogan?

  This control, bro, with the grip. It's beautiful to see.

• 2:00:38Speaker 01

  She's keeping the right arm so she can't follow her.

• 2:00:40Joe Rogan?

  She's moving in north, south.

• 2:00:40Speaker 01

  See, the problem is, you gotta kill that near side frame. That's what does everything. Everybody thinks far under, that near side frame re- it reclaims guard, it offsets balance, kill that fucking thing.

• 2:00:50Speaker 02

  What are you talking about, man?

• 2:00:52Joe Rogan?

  The right arm.

• 2:00:52Speaker 01

  A right arm, yes.

• 2:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, look at this.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  Tatiana, this is where Iowa comes in.

• 2:00:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shit.

• 2:00:58Speaker 03

  Guillotine, Guillotine turn.

• 2:01:00Speaker 01

  Oh, she fucked up right there.

• 2:01:01Joe Rogan?

  John Lively fucked up, or John Lively's on top.

• 2:01:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:01:04Joe Rogan?

  She's, she gonna, she could use it to sweep her though here. She has the butterfly grip, she can sweep her. Jean Willy's out, she's out, on top, oh my goodness.

• 2:01:13Speaker 02

  What'd I tell you, what'd I fucking tell you?

• 2:01:14Joe Rogan?

  She lost the ground, but we'll see what happens over the next minute.

• 2:01:17Speaker 02

  We've been working this.

• 2:01:17Joe Rogan?

  Wild shit can happen over this next minute.

• 2:01:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, you got a wrestler on their back, let's see what happens.

• 2:01:21Joe Rogan?

  Also, she's stuck in this head and arm guillotine here.

• 2:01:23Speaker 01

  Look, look, butterfly hook.

• 2:01:25Speaker 02

  She's long, she's fucking long, man.

• 2:01:26Joe Rogan?

  She's also, oh, that's nice, that was nice, that was nice, the way she moved around that. Oh, look at this, and she's looking to pass, she's going for head and arm.

• 2:01:34Speaker 02

  Oh, boy.

• 2:01:35Joe Rogan?

  She can't get out of that, that butterfly though, that right leg is strong.

• 2:01:39Speaker 01

  She's comfortable as shit here.

• 2:01:39Joe Rogan?

  Nice, long legs too, they're hooked so hard to pass.

• 2:01:42Speaker 02

  It's a pain in the ass.

• 2:01:43Speaker 01

  I'm gonna, let's look for an elevator sweep here. Oh, take the back, under, oh, she's.

• 2:01:47Joe Rogan?

  She's trying to mount, she's trying to mount here. Oh, she might be sensing Tatiana's fading. She's gonna, no. Tatiana might be getting a little tired here. Nah. She's never done this before, right? She's never had a world championship fight. There's so much adrenaline here. And Zhang Weili's on top?

• 2:02:00Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:02:01Joe Rogan?

  A little discouraging, right? But she won the rounds, so she's pretty happy. But still, this is like a closer round than it should have been, right? Yeah. Zhang Weili's on top and she's on top. She jumped for that guillotine. The end of the round, she's on top. The fact that she got out's huge. Huge. You know? Here's the thing, like, we know Zhang Weili can do that for five rounds. Can Tatiana do that for five rounds? This is a championship fight.

• 2:02:23Speaker 02

  That's a question, Joe Rogan.

• 2:02:24Joe Rogan?

  I don't think she's gonna need to.

• 2:02:26Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:02:27Joe Rogan?

  I don't think she's gonna need to. Takedown's too easy. She's gonna finish her. We'll see, kids.

• 2:02:32Speaker 02

  I don't like your attitude, man.

• 2:02:34Joe Rogan?

  My American attitude, you piece of shit? And you wanna move to Austin?

• 2:02:37Speaker 02

  No, no, come on, bro. Give me a second, I'm just...

• 2:02:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you have to get rid of all your communist leanings that you picked up while you were on the West Coast.

• 2:02:43Speaker 02

  Do I gotta buy a truck too?

• 2:02:44Joe Rogan?

  No, you don't have to. That's not for you. You probably should. She'll probably buy an F-150. Just to show everybody.

• 2:02:49Speaker 02

  Carry a piece.

• 2:02:50Joe Rogan?

  F-100, tall boy. Yeah, get something nice. American. American.

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  Get back into jiu-jitsu, or just wrestling?

• 2:02:57Joe Rogan?

  I just do something.

• 2:02:58Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:03:00Speaker 01

  You moving still? What are you doing?

• 2:03:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, do a little jiu-jitsu.

• 2:03:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, are you?

• 2:03:03Speaker 02

  Roll around.

• 2:03:04Joe Rogan?

  He does boxing too. And then sometimes he forgets his...

• 2:03:07Speaker 02

  No, I'm not, I'm not boxing anymore.

• 2:03:08Joe Rogan?

  Forgets his name.

• 2:03:09Speaker 02

  I got too dizzy, dude. I was getting hit.

• 2:03:10Speaker 01

  Sparring?

• 2:03:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's boxing people.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  I was sparring a lot.

• 2:03:14Joe Rogan?

  Getting dinged.

• 2:03:15Speaker 02

  And Shab goes, "Hey, what are you doing?"

• 2:03:16Joe Rogan?

  Fifty-five thousand years old, getting punched in the face. Fossil.

• 2:03:20Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 2:03:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, basically, like...

• 2:03:23Joe Rogan?

  Setting in Alzheimer's months earlier than it has to.

• 2:03:26Speaker 02

  Oh, shit. Yeah, I can't do it. I can't do jiu-jitsu either, because I get hurt. I...

• 2:03:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:31Speaker 02

  Fucking have trouble looking for eleven days.

• 2:03:33Joe Rogan?

  You're feeble. You should not be feeble.

• 2:03:35Speaker 02

  I have a really good body under this. Take my shirt off right now. I'm wearing a leotard, I can't do it.

• 2:03:40Speaker 01

  Let's see you get this takedown again.

• 2:03:41Joe Rogan?

  Come on.

• 2:03:43Speaker 01

  Just circle to the right.

• 2:03:45Speaker 02

  Ah dude, there you go.

• 2:03:47Joe Rogan?

  If she can't get the takedown here, man, this thing gets really interesting. Cause if she, if she's a little tired.

• 2:03:52Speaker 01

  We're in trouble.

• 2:03:53Speaker 02

  Her arms are way short though. It's hard to get close.

• 2:03:55Joe Rogan?

  That's true, that's true. There's definitely a reach.

• 2:03:57Speaker 02

  That distance is hard to touch anybody with.

• 2:03:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's why she's throwing a lot of kicks.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  She just doesn't want to get takedown again.

• 2:04:02Joe Rogan?

  But she is throwing, oh, nice right hand, nice right hand, oh.

• 2:04:05Speaker 01

  That's the thing. Okay, up, she's got an underhook. Yo, she's strong.

• 2:04:10Joe Rogan?

  It's got the hands crossed.

• 2:04:11Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Ready? The hands are together. Come on, Matthew. Three, two, one.

• 2:04:18Speaker 02

  Fucking arms, man.

• 2:04:19Speaker 01

  She's taking a breath and we're going for a ride.

• 2:04:21Joe Rogan?

  Yo, Jean Wei Li's a little powerhouse, man.

• 2:04:23Speaker 02

  She's a powerhouse. She's pushing that head down.

• 2:04:25Joe Rogan?

  She's a little fucking powerhouse. This is impressive.

• 2:04:28Speaker 02

  Crossface.

• 2:04:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she gets it. Oh, oh my goodness. Look at this. On top again. Oh, my goodness. This is huge. This is fucking huge.

• 2:04:37Speaker 01

  Use that underhook. Nah, see, hopefully she ain't get spiked on her neck.

• 2:04:41Speaker 02

  That's gotta be, that's gotta be very frustrating.

• 2:04:43Speaker 01

  I love the escape from here for the under, it's one of my favorite ways out.

• 2:04:45Joe Rogan?

  She keeps trying to mount, and I don't know if that's the move.

• 2:04:48Speaker 01

  Sweep to go to deep.

• 2:04:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's like you're putting your legs in jeopardy when you're trying to mount all the time.

• 2:04:52Speaker 01

  But when you put yourself in deep hip, you put them right on top of you.

• 2:04:54Speaker 02

  Look at this.

• 2:04:55Speaker 01

  That shit worked for Nagara in Pride in fucking 99.

• 2:04:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's almost slicing through. She's almost slicing through. She's almost slicing through. Pressure. See, this is the thing too. She can do this all day long. Her gas tank is fucking limitless, man.

• 2:05:07Speaker 01

  Dude, the right, she's, she can be out right now if she just keeps going.

• 2:05:11Joe Rogan?

  Look at this though, man. Slick.

• 2:05:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:14Joe Rogan?

  Strong too, powerful.

• 2:05:16Speaker 02

  Look at this. Oh, my god. Oh, my god.

• 2:05:18Joe Rogan?

  Big shots.

• 2:05:18Speaker 02

  Ow, ow, ow, ow.

• 2:05:20Speaker 01

  Nah, the cornrows are taking all that.

• 2:05:22Joe Rogan?

  The cornrows.

• 2:05:24Speaker 02

  That's why you win. Look at this. Look at this. Oh, my god.

• 2:05:29Speaker 01

  It could be elbow off if she gets that. Nah, she don't have it. She don't have it.

• 2:05:33Joe Rogan?

  She's just gonna explode to defend.

• 2:05:35Speaker 01

  I'm wondering if she's just expending a lot of energy.

• 2:05:38Joe Rogan?

  Elbows, right here. Elbows on the right side. Get that arm free.

• 2:05:41Speaker 01

  She's, she's.

• 2:05:41Joe Rogan?

  Her hands are closed. She's gonna take it down again, but she'll step over.

• 2:05:45Speaker 01

  He's gotta get it with the control.

• 2:05:46Joe Rogan?

  But this is a lot of fucking energy.

• 2:05:48Speaker 01

  That's all the energy.

• 2:05:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yes.

• 2:05:50Speaker 01

  That's what's working.

• 2:05:51Joe Rogan?

  Unless you're Murab. And also, Jean is way more like Murab. Like, that lady can go.

• 2:05:56Speaker 02

  She just keeps going.

• 2:05:57Joe Rogan?

  She's a fucking machine. Oh, look at that knee to the body, dude. That's a nasty knee to the body.

• 2:06:01Speaker 02

  She's a champion.

• 2:06:02Joe Rogan?

  And she's free. 100% man. Battle tested.

• 2:06:05Speaker 02

  She's made a different shit.

• 2:06:06Speaker 01

  Come on. Talk to her, not breathing that hard. She looks alright.

• 2:06:10Speaker 02

  Look at that, sidekick.

• 2:06:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice right hand. Oh my goodness, nice right hand.

• 2:06:15Speaker 02

  Oh boy. This is deep water for, for, I mean, this is deep water.

• 2:06:19Speaker 03

  We're halfway through the second round.

• 2:06:21Joe Rogan?

  Bro, this frantic pace, though.

• 2:06:23Speaker 03

  Can I remind you that she beat cancer?

• 2:06:25Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 2:06:26Speaker 03

  This girl's a warrior.

• 2:06:27Speaker 02

  I like that you whispered that, bro. No, I'm not, I love her. Oh, all the respect.

• 2:06:30Joe Rogan?

  Winging shots.

• 2:06:31Speaker 03

  Zhang Weili's just throwing from the out.

• 2:06:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she clipped her with a pepper cut coming down.

• 2:06:34Speaker 03

  She set up the takedown-tatiana. I was about to say. God, zombies double. Straight zombie.

• 2:06:40Speaker 02

  Well, you go to your happy place when you're kind of tired and getting rocked.

• 2:06:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is where she wants to be, for sure.

• 2:06:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, against K H Kabeep, so.

• 2:06:48Speaker 02

  Sure, but there's not, she's not doing anything.

• 2:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, she just can't. I mean, Zhang Weili's, I think, surprising her with the takedown defense. And just the physicality.

• 2:06:56Speaker 02

  She's been working her wrestling.

• 2:06:57Joe Rogan?

  Look at the physicality, son.

• 2:06:59Speaker 02

  Yes, and she's been doing this.

• 2:07:00Joe Rogan?

  So fucking strong and fit.

• 2:07:02Speaker 02

  Look at this.

• 2:07:03Joe Rogan?

  Again, turned it around, man. Again, this is huge. So she's got this round.

• 2:07:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's winning this round.

• 2:07:09Joe Rogan?

  So it's 1-1 now.

• 2:07:10Speaker 03

  It's making it exciting.

• 2:07:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:13Speaker 03

  It's 1-1, and if I was betting on this, I would, it's tough to.

• 2:07:16Joe Rogan?

  Back to China.

• 2:07:17Speaker 03

  Better get, yeah.

• 2:07:18Speaker 02

  She's got to get busy.

• 2:07:19Speaker 03

  Another one for China. She would have had that.

• 2:07:21Joe Rogan?

  The fact that Zhang Weili's able to keep her on her back is very impressive. Very, very impressive. Especially when Tatiana's so good at those butterflies and elevating people.

• 2:07:29Speaker 03

  Her guard's good.

• 2:07:30Speaker 02

  But she's been working nothing but wrestling. She knew she was going to deal with this.

• 2:07:33Speaker 03

  We all knew she was going to do this.

• 2:07:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, but, but somebody who like this is that her learning curve.

• 2:07:37Joe Rogan?

  I bet Tatiana did not think she was going to spend a lot of time on her back.

• 2:07:40Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:07:41Joe Rogan?

  I bet she did not anticipate that Zhang Weili was going to be able to do this to her.

• 2:07:44Speaker 03

  Especially in the scramble.

• 2:07:45Joe Rogan?

  Because Tatiana's been dominant in the top position over everybody to get, take, and then also like a second round grueling pace of a five-round fight, and in the second round, you're getting mauled. That's not a good feeling.

• 2:07:58Speaker 03

  She got that wrestling grit. Let's go.

• 2:08:01Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:08:02Speaker 03

  Let's go, America.

• 2:08:04Joe Rogan?

  I'm back on the team in America.

• 2:08:06Speaker 03

  You're making a switch.

• 2:08:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I wish I bet money that I'd be hoping I'd lose it.

• 2:08:11Speaker 02

  Listen, you chose Zhang Weili.

• 2:08:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, I chose champion because it's just that there's a big difference in stepping up and fighting a champion like this. When you've been dominating ladies that are of a lesser caliber. I mean, Zhang Weili's complete. And now you're seeing it. And also, fucking tank. She's a tank of a lady.

• 2:08:28Speaker 03

  Alright, we got one and one right now. Also, the tide. It's all about the tide, boys. Once the tide takes you out to sea, even though if you're only a hundred yards from the shore, it's going in the wrong direction.

• 2:08:40Speaker 02

  I think it's very demoralizing when you realize that what your go-to move is not working.

• 2:08:44Joe Rogan?

  Right, your wrestling is getting flipped.

• 2:08:46Speaker 03

  My friend Matt here, she beat cancer, right?

• 2:08:49Speaker 02

  Listen, a lot of respect. I'm just saying.

• 2:08:52Speaker 03

  Cancer's got a good record.

• 2:08:53Speaker 02

  You're dealing with a different breed, just a different human being.

• 2:08:57Speaker 03

  Cancer, you think she's worried about a Chinese girl?

• 2:08:59Speaker 02

  Yes, I do know.

• 2:09:00Speaker 03

  Chinese girl's beating her ass.

• 2:09:01Speaker 02

  Oh, right hand. Look at that.

• 2:09:02Joe Rogan?

  That was a nice right hand.

• 2:09:04Speaker 02

  She's rugged, though, but...

• 2:09:08Speaker 03

  Look at this. That's where it went. Southward.

• 2:09:11Joe Rogan?

  So impressive. Just the fact that she's able to do this to Tatiana is so impressive.

• 2:09:15Speaker 02

  She's been drilling this.

• 2:09:16Joe Rogan?

  Look at this right hand. Boom, on the kisser, son. Look at that right hand.

• 2:09:19Speaker 03

  You watched one countdown video where they had the...

• 2:09:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:09:22Speaker 03

  You don't even know the name of the guy.

• 2:09:24Speaker 02

  What I'm saying is that those...

• 2:09:25Speaker 03

  He knows the state.

• 2:09:26Speaker 02

  No, she was doing a lot of wrestling and somebody like this, I do think it's one thing you're not gonna beat her in wrestling, but you can neutralize the wrestling.

• 2:09:33Joe Rogan?

  Hey, how about let Mike Beltran let his fucking mustache free?

• 2:09:35Speaker 03

  Oh, I know.

• 2:09:36Joe Rogan?

  Let that mustache free.

• 2:09:37Speaker 02

  He's the best.

• 2:09:38Joe Rogan?

  Let that mustache free. Why you gotta tuck it in your shirt? That's bullshit, UFC. Let the mustache free.

• 2:09:43Speaker 02

  Look at her, look at her, look at...

• 2:09:45Speaker 03

  This round's so important.

• 2:09:46Speaker 02

  She's got a crazy gas tank, dude. Fresh. Fresh.

• 2:09:50Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna have to make a petition to have Mike Beltran let his mustache go free. I like to see that thing, that crazy mustache.

• 2:09:58Speaker 02

  It's too distracting.

• 2:09:59Joe Rogan?

  Shut the fuck up.

• 2:10:00Speaker 02

  I'm just saying.

• 2:10:01Speaker 03

  Why did they mix it?

• 2:10:02Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 2:10:04Speaker 02

  Oh, look at that. Oh, oh.

• 2:10:05Joe Rogan?

  They don't like it. They don't like the crazy mustache. For some strange reason. I think it's awesome.

• 2:10:11Speaker 02

  It gets in their face.

• 2:10:12Joe Rogan?

  Shut up.

• 2:10:12Speaker 02

  When he's in there, he can't have...

• 2:10:14Joe Rogan?

  No, it doesn't. It's hanging down.

• 2:10:15Speaker 02

  Might get grabbed.

• 2:10:16Joe Rogan?

  It's like a ponytail.

• 2:10:20Joe Rogan?

  Boy, you know what I just realized? We never had a woman referee.

• 2:10:24Speaker 03

  We only have.

• 2:10:25Joe Rogan?

  Who? There was that one.

• 2:10:28Speaker 03

  Look at that, bring that shit up, dude.

• 2:10:29Speaker 01

  What's her name?

• 2:10:29Joe Rogan?

  Have they?

• 2:10:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:10:30Speaker 01

  The tall blonde girl.

• 2:10:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right.

• 2:10:33Speaker 02

  Oh, boy, oh, boy, she's getting clocked. Oh, no. She's getting clocked.

• 2:10:37Joe Rogan?

  How many women, I can't remember in recent times, a female referee?

• 2:10:42Speaker 02

  Oh, Jesus!

• 2:10:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness, oh, my goodness.

• 2:10:44Speaker 02

  She just can't, she can't strike with her.

• 2:10:47Speaker 01

  Dude, that was a pretty fucking hard shot right there.

• 2:10:50Speaker 02

  Goes to her happy place.

• 2:10:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she snapped her down, she snapped her down.

• 2:10:52Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 2:10:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's stuffing it now, she's stuffing it now, now she's putting it on her. Oh, nice knee to the body by Tatiana.

• 2:10:59Speaker 01

  Vision Quest, let's go. Oh, that was, oh, this is rough.

• 2:11:05Joe Rogan?

  The problem is the striking, the difference.

• 2:11:07Speaker 03

  Big difference.

• 2:11:08Speaker 01

  She's not setting up.

• 2:11:09Speaker 03

  She's not setting strike.

• 2:11:10Joe Rogan?

  And it's also the pace, man, Zhang Weili can just maul her in these paces.

• 2:11:14Speaker 03

  It's also Tatiana, she's not putting the strike in the shoot shots to the other side. Not setting up the strike.

• 2:11:21Joe Rogan?

  Kim Winslow.

• 2:11:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, she is.

• 2:11:23Joe Rogan?

  Literally ruining people's lives, she said, whoops. Oh, sorry, Kim. Let me bring up old wounds.

• 2:11:32Speaker 02

  Look at this, ow, ow, ow.

• 2:11:34Speaker 01

  Finish it!

• 2:11:34Joe Rogan?

  Can't get her down anymore.

• 2:11:36Speaker 03

  She does the same takedown, over, over.

• 2:11:37Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that's so impressive, that's so impressive what Zhang Weili has been able to do here. Just to be able to stop these takedowns and reverse them when she gets them, so impressive. But it's like, the physicality of Zhang Weili is just something to think, look at that one, two.

• 2:11:52Speaker 03

  She's landing.

• 2:11:53Joe Rogan?

  Nasty.

• 2:11:53Speaker 02

  Great athlete.

• 2:11:54Joe Rogan?

  Nasty, yeah, I mean, just incredible conditioning.

• 2:11:57Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:11:57Joe Rogan?

  I mean, you ever watch her workout videos? They're fucking mad, dude. Her strength and conditioning is mad.

• 2:12:03Speaker 02

  Brendan, you want to come over to my side now?

• 2:12:04Joe Rogan?

  Look at her.

• 2:12:05Speaker 02

  No, he's staying strong.

• 2:12:06Speaker 01

  We don't jump ship.

• 2:12:08Speaker 02

  It's like going to electric cars, you'll never do it.

• 2:12:10Joe Rogan?

  Brian, if she wanted to have sex with you, you'd be very uncomfortable, she could kill you.

• 2:12:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, she might be my type, because I'm.

• 2:12:14Speaker 03

  Guys, guys, guys, I'm a fan of her, I would beat the shit out of her.

• 2:12:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you're 280 pounds, you fucking gorilla.

• 2:12:21Speaker 03

  You just said I'd be scared of her.

• 2:12:21Joe Rogan?

  Not you, Brian.

• 2:12:23Speaker 03

  Oh, I thought you told me.

• 2:12:24Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:12:24Speaker 03

  Oh, that's why I said that.

• 2:12:25Joe Rogan?

  No, Brian, if Brian had.

• 2:12:27Speaker 01

  Tatiana at all.

• 2:12:28Joe Rogan?

  Right. She's been able to stuff those takedowns and Tatiana's like hesitant to keep going for him now.

• 2:12:33Speaker 02

  Watch, every time she would sidekick. When she punches, her head's just off the centerline every time. She's fucking.

• 2:12:38Speaker 03

  Zhang has some traps, huh? She's a tank.

• 2:12:41Speaker 01

  The way Tatiana got that first takedown.

• 2:12:43Speaker 02

  Oh, oh, oh, look at this, oh, look at this.

• 2:12:45Speaker 01

  Her whole career and nobody ever got away.

• 2:12:47Speaker 03

  That pace is.

• 2:12:48Speaker 02

  She's also striking. It's fucking just higher level, man.

• 2:12:50Joe Rogan?

  Very good, very good, very good striking. She keeps catching her.

• 2:12:53Speaker 02

  Yes. Tatiana just keeps moving forward. Nah, this doesn't work.

• 2:12:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:12:59Speaker 03

  The difference of the striking.

• 2:13:01Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:13:01Speaker 01

  Oh, it's big.

• 2:13:02Speaker 02

  Much higher level, much higher level. Tatiana keeps moving forward in just one line.

• 2:13:06Joe Rogan?

  And John Wei Li has not shown any signs of deteriorating.

• 2:13:09Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:13:10Speaker 02

  Not at all. Look at that, just stepping back, moving, waiting.

• 2:13:15Speaker 01

  I don't think that.

• 2:13:15Speaker 02

  Tatiana's.

• 2:13:16Speaker 01

  Like she's not even throwing that left hand at all.

• 2:13:19Speaker 02

  She's at a loss. She can't. She's good because she pays every time she reaches.

• 2:13:21Speaker 03

  That's, that's the problem right there.

• 2:13:23Joe Rogan?

  When she does, look, she, the entry, she gets spun around.

• 2:13:26Speaker 03

  It's so bad.

• 2:13:27Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy, but this is how strong John Wei Li is, man. It's impressive. Look at that. Fucking impressive.

• 2:13:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's a knee coming.

• 2:13:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, look at that elbow. Oh, look at another elbow. Oh, my goodness.

• 2:13:37Speaker 02

  Look at that.

• 2:13:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 2:13:38Speaker 02

  Champion. You're talking about a champion.

• 2:13:40Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 2:13:41Speaker 02

  Damn it.

• 2:13:42Joe Rogan?

  Dominant woman, man. Dominant.

• 2:13:45Speaker 02

  Just a great fighter. Forget it.

• 2:13:47Speaker 03

  That kick's not a girl.

• 2:13:48Speaker 02

  So good, so good.

• 2:13:50Joe Rogan?

  And again, it's like you got Rose, you got her, you got Yonah, you got like the elite of the elite in this division and she's fought them all.

• 2:13:56Speaker 02

  Her balance is perfect. Look at Tatiana. Her head's all the way over. She's just leaning a lot of weight on her front foot. Forget it.

• 2:14:02Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:14:03Speaker 03

  That's what I'm talking about, baby.

• 2:14:05Joe Rogan?

  That's a good shot.

• 2:14:05Speaker 03

  Finish that shit. Come on.

• 2:14:07Joe Rogan?

  Great job ducking under it.

• 2:14:08Speaker 01

  That's a good shot.

• 2:14:10Joe Rogan?

  Look at that. And she doesn't get it. Amazing.

• 2:14:12Speaker 01

  Man, I thought that was.

• 2:14:14Joe Rogan?

  Two one.

• 2:14:15Speaker 01

  That was something.

• 2:14:16Speaker 02

  Down and then boom.

• 2:14:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 2:14:19Speaker 02

  She goes low and high.

• 2:14:20Speaker 03

  How about those elbows in tight when they were up against the cage? Those were fucking nasty.

• 2:14:25Speaker 02

  So much higher than level striker.

• 2:14:27Joe Rogan?

  How is she now?

• 2:14:28Speaker 03

  Hell balls.

• 2:14:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, she's, now she's been facing adversity.

• 2:14:32Speaker 03

  So now she's in the fourth and fifth.

• 2:14:34Joe Rogan?

  This is the big rounds.

• 2:14:35Speaker 03

  We call this the deep waters.

• 2:14:36Joe Rogan?

  The deep.

• 2:14:37Speaker 02

  I think that Tatiana doesn't have a game plan right now. It's just, it's expanded.

• 2:14:40Speaker 03

  Well, her game plan was a mauler on the ground and then that's not working.

• 2:14:43Joe Rogan?

  Look at the difference.

• 2:14:43Speaker 03

  And now you're forced to strike in the outside, you're fucked.

• 2:14:45Joe Rogan?

  Look at her breathing, man. Look at her breathing and the body language.

• 2:14:48Speaker 02

  She doesn't really know what to do, so she's moving forward and kind of.

• 2:14:50Speaker 03

  She's, the body language.

• 2:14:52Joe Rogan?

  Tools to fix the problem.

• 2:14:53Speaker 03

  That body language is not good.

• 2:14:54Speaker 02

  Her head's literally past her front foot.

• 2:14:56Speaker 03

  Then you got this Chinese terror waiting over there. It's a disaster.

• 2:14:59Joe Rogan?

  This body language right here is fucking terrible.

• 2:15:02Speaker 01

  It's never a good sign when she's already off the stool.

• 2:15:04Speaker 03

  No, jumping around like that.

• 2:15:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:15:05Speaker 02

  It's a nightmare.

• 2:15:06Joe Rogan?

  This is bad body language.

• 2:15:07Speaker 01

  That's rough.

• 2:15:08Joe Rogan?

  Man, this is where it gets hard because you've never done this fourth and fifth.

• 2:15:11Speaker 02

  Listen, guys, we worked on the wrestling. We worked on the wrestling. How many times do I gotta tell you?

• 2:15:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's also the striking, the championships experience.

• 2:15:18Speaker 02

  It's all of it.

• 2:15:19Speaker 03

  Well, they're asking Tatiana to do a lot and she jumped the cue.

• 2:15:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, listen to this. He was All-American just a little while ago.

• 2:15:25Speaker 02

  Isn't that amazing?

• 2:15:26Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it incredible?

• 2:15:26Speaker 03

  I'm just explaining once.

• 2:15:27Speaker 02

  Fair weather, Frank. Thank you.

• 2:15:29Joe Rogan?

  Unbelievable.

• 2:15:30Speaker 03

  No, she can still do it. She can still do it.

• 2:15:32Speaker 01

  Tatiana, I'm staying with you.

• 2:15:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:15:34Speaker 03

  I'm staying with Tatiana.

• 2:15:35Joe Rogan?

  All right, let's go.

• 2:15:36Speaker 02

  I like your, I like your, I like your loyalty. I do, I appreciate it.

• 2:15:40Joe Rogan?

  Let's see what happens in the fifth round. He's gonna be going, I've been thinking Tatiana all the time. I just wanted her to win because I'm American.

• 2:15:49Speaker 02

  Look at her.

• 2:15:49Speaker 01

  She's going in fearless now because she was, she's.

• 2:15:52Speaker 02

  That's exciting.

• 2:15:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, oh, right hand. Oh, she clipped her again.

• 2:15:55Speaker 02

  Now she's stepping back.

• 2:15:58Speaker 02

  Oh, again.

• 2:15:59Joe Rogan?

  Like when Tatiana closes the distance.

• 2:16:01Speaker 02

  Oh, wow, she took her down. Unbelievable.

• 2:16:04Speaker 01

  I know, dude, it's rough.

• 2:16:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, what happened?

• 2:16:06Speaker 01

  It's a little hot on Saturday.

• 2:16:07Speaker 02

  What wrestling?

• 2:16:07Joe Rogan?

  America.

• 2:16:09Speaker 01

  Yo, someone said 3-0, Zane, get the fuck out of here.

• 2:16:12Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I wanna. No, not 3-0. The first round for sure. Well, the first round she did get on top at the end.

• 2:16:18Speaker 02

  Bob, I'm just sorry, I told you.

• 2:16:19Speaker 01

  Can I just tell you that with this half guard escape, it's killing me. I wanna fucking show it to you right now.

• 2:16:24Speaker 02

  What is it? I, I, I, what, hers, you mean?

• 2:16:26Speaker 01

  If she uses her left leg, pulls it out, pelvis up and down, she's out.

• 2:16:29Speaker 02

  What do you mean? Like?

• 2:16:30Speaker 01

  With her left leg. If she pulls, scrapes it out.

• 2:16:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:16:33Speaker 01

  And she brings her pelvis forward to the floor, she's out. I'll show, I'll put Brendan on me afterwards, I'll show you.

• 2:16:39Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:16:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. Because once you get to your side, you're out with it. Her, her left, she.

• 2:16:46Speaker 01

  I I I I used to use that when I was 230 getting out from underneath.

• 2:16:49Speaker 02

  I swear to God Matt, if I lived near you, I would be taking classes from you every day.

• 2:16:52Joe Rogan?

  If she had the underhook on the left side, right?

• 2:16:53Speaker 01

  If she has her underhook and she brings her forward, gets on her side.

• 2:16:56Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:16:57Speaker 01

  Retract this arm, we scrape that out, pelvis forward into the floor.

• 2:17:01Speaker 02

  But but.

• 2:17:01Speaker 01

  It comes out like butter.

• 2:17:03Speaker 02

  But her, so you're saying her pelvis on the floor, but then, isn't she on the, how does she escape from that?

• 2:17:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:09Speaker 02

  You gotta show it to me.

• 2:17:09Speaker 01

  I'll show it to you.

• 2:17:10Joe Rogan?

  You'd have to be in the half guard, but when you're in the half guard, she, the, where she has the underhook on the left hand side, she could basically pop her left leg out, put it beside her and and and lean her body left and she would take her down. She would, well, look at this, head and arm.

• 2:17:24Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:17:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

• 2:17:26Speaker 02

  Oh, that's bad.

• 2:17:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

• 2:17:29Speaker 01

  From half guard, she shouldn't be able to get this.

• 2:17:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 2:17:32Speaker 02

  I think she's okay until, wait.

• 2:17:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, Zhang Weili might get out of there.

• 2:17:35Speaker 02

  She's gotta get all the way over the side.

• 2:17:36Joe Rogan?

  She might get all the way over.

• 2:17:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. If she gets over the side, it's a big problem.

• 2:17:38Joe Rogan?

  But still, she's cooking her, she's cooking her in this position.

• 2:17:40Speaker 02

  Yep, and she's waiting.

• 2:17:41Joe Rogan?

  Like, she's not doing good here, man.

• 2:17:42Speaker 02

  No, she's waiting.

• 2:17:43Joe Rogan?

  This is not good, and that left leg is basically free. That left leg is basically free. Look at that, it's basically free.

• 2:17:48Speaker 02

  What does she want to do, get her hips on the ground?

• 2:17:50Joe Rogan?

  She wants to get to the right side, but she doesn't want to lose position while she's doing it. Oh, no, Tatiana brought her back to full guard, nicely done. It's over now, now it's gone.

• 2:17:58Joe Rogan?

  But that was close, but she probably didn't want, it's championship experience too, didn't want to gas her, her arms out.

• 2:18:04Speaker 02

  Somebody cut her knee with a knife, look at that shit.

• 2:18:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God, look at that gash on her left knee.

• 2:18:07Speaker 02

  How'd that happen?

• 2:18:08Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question.

• 2:18:09Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:18:10Speaker 01

  Oh, Jesus.

• 2:18:11Joe Rogan?

  That's bad.

• 2:18:12Speaker 02

  God damn, she's just mauling her, pushing her face down, just, ugh.

• 2:18:17Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, she's a rough woman, man.

• 2:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's so physical, man. Thing about Zhang Weili is like, her training is, I mean, it rivals everybody's.

• 2:18:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:27Joe Rogan?

  It's like, her strength and conditioning training is fucking amazing.

• 2:18:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's ridiculous.

• 2:18:31Joe Rogan?

  If you want to get fired up for a workout, watch her strength and conditioning training, she's ferocious, man.

• 2:18:38Joe Rogan?

  And again, it's that championship level experience. Like she's been in all these trench wars.

• 2:18:42Speaker 03

  Are you guys still hanging off Zane's tits?

• 2:18:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Bro, we're ready to buy Chinese electric cars.

• 2:18:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, alright.

• 2:18:48Joe Rogan?

  We're ordering Chinese electric cars.

• 2:18:50Speaker 02

  That's right, damn right we are. I hear they're good.

• 2:18:52Joe Rogan?

  Trying to get one of them banned Chinese Android phones. Hook it up to T-Mobile.

• 2:18:55Speaker 02

  They got a lot of spyware in there to take your bio message.

• 2:18:57Speaker 01

  Did she take Tatiana down?

• 2:18:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, she did.

• 2:19:00Joe Rogan?

  That spyware helps you, because they give you recommendations for things to buy that you really want.

• 2:19:05Speaker 02

  That's right, from Alibaba.

• 2:19:06Speaker 03

  Man.

• 2:19:07Speaker 01

  It's killing me.

• 2:19:08Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, oh Tatiana scrambled. Oh, look at that. She capitalized on the scramble. Look at that.

• 2:19:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, but now...

• 2:19:14Joe Rogan?

  So much better shape.

• 2:19:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, she can get out in that half guard.

• 2:19:17Joe Rogan?

  A lot of it is just being in better shape, man. Her fucking physical conditioning is like she can push this pace and be at a hundred percent.

• 2:19:24Speaker 02

  She's just better. She's just better all the way around. In every way. She's better.

• 2:19:28Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. Side control again.

• 2:19:30Speaker 02

  You're dealing with a .01 percenters.

• 2:19:32Joe Rogan?

  Fucking animal, man. And Tatiana getting mauled off her back was not on my...

• 2:19:38Speaker 03

  Hanging off some Chinese tits, fellas. God damn, it's alright.

• 2:19:41Speaker 02

  Listen, I'm sorry.

• 2:19:42Speaker 01

  Tatiana's had a fight in like two years. Take it easy.

• 2:19:44Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, you were all over her. You were like, she's gonna choke her out in the second round.

• 2:19:47Speaker 01

  You really were.

• 2:19:48Joe Rogan?

  Me and Brian were right.

• 2:19:49Speaker 03

  Oh, what's up?

• 2:19:51Joe Rogan?

  Me and Brian were right.

• 2:19:52Speaker 02

  Don't guys are so cool. We're older, we're older, we're older.

• 2:19:56Joe Rogan?

  My feeling was, I thought this was gonna be the toughest fight that John Whaley has. Me too. Stylistically, but I'm so impressed.

• 2:20:02Speaker 02

  Not when Iowa's in the house, guys.

• 2:20:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's which guys from Iowa, Brian?

• 2:20:05Speaker 02

  The brothers.

• 2:20:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, those guys.

• 2:20:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:20:07Speaker 01

  Two brothers.

• 2:20:08Speaker 02

  They actually weren't, they weren't like...

• 2:20:10Joe Rogan?

  You should probably find out who they are to give them credit.

• 2:20:11Speaker 02

  They were good, but they were like top 15. They weren't like...

• 2:20:13Speaker 03

  The rest of Iowa's a good beat. Chill.

• 2:20:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they had, they had a really good wrestlers there.

• 2:20:18Joe Rogan?

  Nasty elbow by John Whaley.

• 2:20:19Speaker 02

  A lot of really good wrestlers that come there.

• 2:20:20Joe Rogan?

  She fucked her up with that elbow.

• 2:20:21Speaker 01

  You know, up until now, she probably didn't have to use her striking too much. I mean, that's what it must be.

• 2:20:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:20:27Speaker 01

  If it's not broke, don't fix it. She would just take him down and smoke him.

• 2:20:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh my goodness. She's beating her up, man.

• 2:20:32Speaker 01

  You know?

• 2:20:33Speaker 03

  It's tough. If you're in the corner there, you're like, I don't know, man. Set the shots up better.

• 2:20:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, I feel like it's 3-1.

• 2:20:39Speaker 03

  What are you gonna say? Set the shots up?

• 2:20:41Joe Rogan?

  I feel like it's 3-1.

• 2:20:41Speaker 03

  It's 3-1 all day.

• 2:20:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:20:42Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 2:20:43Joe Rogan?

  So it's over. Already over.

• 2:20:44Speaker 02

  Tatiana's tough.

• 2:20:45Joe Rogan?

  She's gotta finish her.

• 2:20:46Speaker 01

  Dude, what the fuck? How'd that happen?

• 2:20:48Speaker 03

  It looks like a bite mark.

• 2:20:49Speaker 02

  I'm a ch...

• 2:20:51Joe Rogan?

  From a wolf?

• 2:20:51Speaker 03

  It's like a bite mark to me.

• 2:20:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is.

• 2:20:53Joe Rogan?

  Stuck a wolf.

• 2:20:54Speaker 02

  It's a bite mark. It's cheating.

• 2:20:56Joe Rogan?

  Vampire bitter. What the fuck happened there?

• 2:20:58Speaker 02

  That's a shark bite is what that is.

• 2:21:00Joe Rogan?

  How did you not like Nosferatu? It's really just disappointing.

• 2:21:03Speaker 03

  It was alright. It was slow.

• 2:21:04Speaker 02

  He watched The Sopranos. He was like, eh.

• 2:21:06Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that vampire is the greatest vampire in every.

• 2:21:09Speaker 03

  He got a handlebar mustache.

• 2:21:10Joe Rogan?

  It was amazing. That's what they looked like back then.

• 2:21:13Speaker 03

  In two days.

• 2:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was awesome.

• 2:21:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 2:21:18Joe Rogan?

  How about when he ate the kids?

• 2:21:19Speaker 03

  That was, that's a lot, right?

• 2:21:21Joe Rogan?

  That was a lot.

• 2:21:21Speaker 01

  Oh, that's gonna make me wanna see it.

• 2:21:23Joe Rogan?

  That was a lot.

• 2:21:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a great.

• 2:21:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a good selling point. Isn't it great when he ate the children?

• 2:21:30Joe Rogan?

  Horrible, horrible vampire. He's horrible. But he was on top of the dude, yeah, naked and it was sucking out of his chest like, oh.

• 2:21:36Speaker 03

  How about when he stands up and you see his dick?

• 2:21:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, nice. Right? He's scary.

• 2:21:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's scary.

• 2:21:41Speaker 02

  Did you pause it?

• 2:21:42Speaker 03

  He's scary.

• 2:21:42Joe Rogan?

  Fifth round. Let's fucking go.

• 2:21:44Speaker 03

  CGI though.

• 2:21:45Joe Rogan?

  He was the best vampire of all time. He sleeps naked too, like all the other pussies.

• 2:21:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, he does sleep naked.

• 2:21:50Joe Rogan?

  With their stupid fucking tuxes on.

• 2:21:52Speaker 03

  It's ridiculous. He didn't have makeup on like those other vamps.

• 2:21:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He was rotting too.

• 2:21:56Speaker 01

  You need another Lost Boys. That was a good fucking movie.

• 2:21:59Speaker 02

  I just watched it. I just rewatched it.

• 2:22:01Joe Rogan?

  Dare you bring up Lost Boys?

• 2:22:02Speaker 02

  It actually holds weight.

• 2:22:03Speaker 01

  You didn't like Lost Boys?

• 2:22:03Speaker 02

  It's still, it's still holds a.

• 2:22:05Joe Rogan?

  Same sentence as Nosferatu.

• 2:22:06Speaker 02

  Oh, right hand. Oh, she just tagged it with the right hand. It stands the test of time, man. I watched it.

• 2:22:10Joe Rogan?

  If you guys are into vampires, you gotta watch True Blood. Might take some heat for that, but it's a fan, six part series.

• 2:22:15Speaker 01

  I fell off on that series. I was watching it.

• 2:22:18Speaker 03

  Did it end well?

• 2:22:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, great.

• 2:22:20Speaker 02

  It's a good show.

• 2:22:20Speaker 01

  Shit, I thought it, I thought it fell off towards the, I didn't like that Bill all of a sudden's a prick and he used to be good and then now.

• 2:22:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

• 2:22:28Speaker 02

  She's making her pay.

• 2:22:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 2:22:32Speaker 01

  Even if she gets her down, it's phenomenal.

• 2:22:34Speaker 03

  She's kinda coming at it. She'd have to get a finish.

• 2:22:36Joe Rogan?

  It's take down defense.

• 2:22:37Speaker 02

  It's the same, but it's the same move.

• 2:22:39Speaker 01

  Because it worked her whole career up until now.

• 2:22:41Joe Rogan?

  It's just so impressive.

• 2:22:42Speaker 02

  Oh, look at this, look at this, look at this.

• 2:22:44Joe Rogan?

  It's so impressive that John Willey can defend all this.

• 2:22:46Speaker 03

  That take down defense is wild.

• 2:22:47Joe Rogan?

  Fucking amazing. Look at this, still.

• 2:22:49Speaker 01

  She's got those little tree trunks.

• 2:22:51Joe Rogan?

  Still incredible.

• 2:22:53Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 2:22:53Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that's so impressive. That's so impressive. And then free spins out and then you gotta eat some shots.

• 2:22:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:22:59Joe Rogan?

  Then you gotta eat some shots and now you're tired as fuck.

• 2:23:02Speaker 02

  Oh my god, she's coming though. She's coming.

• 2:23:03Speaker 01

  I like that she's

• 2:23:05Joe Rogan?

  Animal.

• 2:23:05Speaker 01

  Going forward.

• 2:23:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's a fucking animal.

• 2:23:07Speaker 03

  I just want to emphasize she beat cancer, Brian.

• 2:23:10Speaker 01

  She did beat cancer.

• 2:23:10Speaker 02

  Listen, all of respect. God bless.

• 2:23:12Joe Rogan?

  No, no, you're right.

• 2:23:13Speaker 01

  Way more, way more important fight there.

• 2:23:15Speaker 02

  You're dealing with just a better fighter. It's very hard. No shame.

• 2:23:18Speaker 01

  That left hand's no, it's not even a threat though when she throws it. It's kind of

• 2:23:21Speaker 02

  She doesn't know what to do. She doesn't know what to do. It's You're gonna pay every time.

• 2:23:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she looking for the knee. Trying to catch her with a knee coming in. Oh, right hand hurt her.

• 2:23:28Speaker 01

  Uh, this is gonna be a

• 2:23:29Speaker 03

  Her entry's bad.

• 2:23:30Joe Rogan?

  She's hurt.

• 2:23:31Speaker 03

  What do you do? She's also older. This was her opportunity. She's gonna go back down the ladder. The division's not deep, but at her age and the injuries.

• 2:23:40Speaker 01

  Well, it's gonna be some learning on the job with the stand up. She's gonna have to attack. She has to have something threatening.

• 2:23:45Speaker 03

  She has nothing.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  Cause if some

• 2:23:47Speaker 02

  Look at this. Look at that. That's a wizard.

• 2:23:49Speaker 01

  She's even going for an arm lock. Oh, that was maybe a mistake. Ah, jeez.

• 2:23:53Joe Rogan?

  Unbelievable.

• 2:23:54Speaker 02

  That's, that's conditioning.

• 2:23:55Joe Rogan?

  Yup, yup, yup. 100% strength and conditioning.

• 2:23:59Speaker 01

  Pushly.

• 2:23:59Joe Rogan?

  Bushly. Yeah, how dare you? That's your girl. That's your girl.

• 2:24:03Speaker 01

  Down dude and just fucking like push off like the half god thing again.

• 2:24:06Joe Rogan?

  One of them is exhausted and one of them is not. Okay? One of them is a fucking fitness machine.

• 2:24:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, one of them's getting their ass kicked.

• 2:24:12Speaker 02

  You know what? You know what? I'm gonna say it. Zhang Weili is a better wrestler as well. I said it.

• 2:24:17Speaker 01

  MMA wrestler?

• 2:24:17Speaker 02

  Yes. She just is. It's, this ain't wrestling. How many times I gotta tell you guys that?

• 2:24:22Joe Rogan?

  She fucking scrambles like a motherfucker. I'll tell you that. Look at this. Look at this. She's got her fucking back, son.

• 2:24:27Speaker 02

  It shouldn't break your heart. She's just

• 2:24:28Speaker 01

  No, the half god thing is

• 2:24:29Joe Rogan?

  No, you know why it breaks our heart? Cause we're from here, Brian.

• 2:24:32Speaker 02

  Oh, look at this. This is amazing.

• 2:24:35Joe Rogan?

  We're from here.

• 2:24:35Speaker 02

  You're right. I'm sorry. I apologize. Matt, you gotta teach me the, uh, tell me what, what's going on.

• 2:24:39Speaker 03

  I'm gonna show you right now on the floor.

• 2:24:41Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

• 2:24:41Speaker 01

  If you, if you wanna completely waste your time, Matt, show Brian that.

• 2:24:44Joe Rogan?

  He won't remember.

• 2:24:45Speaker 02

  I need it.

• 2:24:45Joe Rogan?

  He still doesn't know how to throw a sidekick. This is, they're, they're so

• 2:24:49Speaker 02

  Why are you guys picking on me? I'm just, I'm just winning on this one, come on.

• 2:24:53Speaker 03

  We're winning together, bro.

• 2:24:54Speaker 02

  And I got Shawn Strickland in the next one.

• 2:24:56Speaker 03

  You got Strickland, how dare?

• 2:24:58Speaker 02

  I know, it's crazy.

• 2:24:59Speaker 03

  Now you're back on the American train.

• 2:25:00Speaker 02

  I like, I like Strickland. I've always, I love the way he fights.

• 2:25:02Speaker 03

  He's so tough to beat.

• 2:25:03Speaker 02

  I just love his fight, I love him.

• 2:25:05Speaker 03

  But I'm on the DDB train too, cause he's a fucking monster.

• 2:25:08Speaker 02

  I love the way Strickland fights.

• 2:25:09Joe Rogan?

  I'm all over those Afrika nuts.

• 2:25:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, me too.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  I understand that's the smart money, but Strickland's.

• 2:25:14Joe Rogan?

  Strickland an animal.

• 2:25:15Speaker 02

  He's beautiful.

• 2:25:16Joe Rogan?

  Also, he was funny as shit at the press conferences, oh my god.

• 2:25:19Speaker 03

  He was lighting him up, huh?

• 2:25:20Joe Rogan?

  He's always so good at the press conferences.

• 2:25:22Speaker 02

  He's great.

• 2:25:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, he don't give a shit.

• 2:25:25Joe Rogan?

  See what he said about Palestine though?

• 2:25:26Speaker 02

  Man.

• 2:25:27Speaker 03

  See, you think DFC's like, hey man, after the recent Bryce Mitchell stuff?

• 2:25:31Joe Rogan?

  He went the other way.

• 2:25:32Speaker 03

  Let's just chill out, and he's like, you got it.

• 2:25:34Joe Rogan?

  He got up there fucking. He went harder.

• 2:25:35Speaker 02

  I didn't hear, I didn't hear the press conference.

• 2:25:37Speaker 03

  Oh man.

• 2:25:38Speaker 02

  I don't like when he's mean, but I do like his fights.

• 2:25:40Speaker 03

  He's not mean, when's he mean?

• 2:25:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was for the Jews in that one.

• 2:25:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:25:47Speaker 03

  Oh man.

• 2:25:48Joe Rogan?

  It's Zhang Weili by unanimous decision, ladies and gentlemen.

• 2:25:50Speaker 03

  4-1.

• 2:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, 4-1.

• 2:25:52Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 2:25:53Joe Rogan?

  And super impressive.

• 2:25:54Speaker 02

  And ended up on, on top in the last, the last round too.

• 2:25:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so.

• 2:25:58Speaker 03

  Still lost that round though.

• 2:25:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but not.

• 2:25:59Speaker 02

  Barely, barely.

• 2:26:00Joe Rogan?

  But not 10-8, you know?

• 2:26:02Speaker 03

  No, not 10-8.

• 2:26:03Joe Rogan?

  But like, Tatiana, it was, looked like she was on her way to a mauling.

• 2:26:05Speaker 02

  All that happened was she just shut down.

• 2:26:07Joe Rogan?

  Fucking monster.

• 2:26:08Speaker 02

  Monster.

• 2:26:09Joe Rogan?

  What a, what a problem she is.

• 2:26:10Speaker 03

  For top 10, it's tough, cause you're 31, coming off these injuries, you had your shot at the title, you're not even close to the.

• 2:26:16Joe Rogan?

  You got mauled, and you spent most of the fight on your back, which is crazy.

• 2:26:20Speaker 03

  I wouldn't be surprised if she retires.

• 2:26:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, who knows, I mean, she might have had a real hard camp, with all those injuries.

• 2:26:26Speaker 03

  Oh, she's getting beat up, son.

• 2:26:28Speaker 02

  I just think, I just think striking wise, it's very different.

• 2:26:29Joe Rogan?

  This is ground and pound, son, from the top though, this is top control. Like, forget about the striking, which is amazing, but Zhang Weili's dominating her on the ground now. I mean, beating her up.

• 2:26:40Speaker 03

  You know who looked good with the, the Jasmine, the Canadian girl?

• 2:26:44Joe Rogan?

  Look at this.

• 2:26:44Speaker 03

  Oh, she looked, she looked really good.

• 2:26:46Joe Rogan?

  4, 3, 2, 1, honk.

• 2:26:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was rough.

• 2:26:51Joe Rogan?

  Wow, it was rough.

• 2:26:52Speaker 02

  That's tough.

• 2:26:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's well hugged, dreams are dashed.

• 2:26:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's over.

• 2:26:56Speaker 01

  Oh, let's give the girl a hug, I mean, come on now.

• 2:26:58Speaker 02

  That's tough, it's devastating.

• 2:27:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, but shit, man.

• 2:27:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, they'll hug in a few minutes.

• 2:27:03Speaker 03

  You know what's devastating? Cause there's, there's nothing she can do to beat her. There's not enough hours on the day.

• 2:27:08Speaker 02

  There's no game plan.

• 2:27:09Joe Rogan?

  You can't catch that. That gap, that's a big gap.

• 2:27:11Speaker 03

  And you're thirty-one.

• 2:27:12Joe Rogan?

  So who else for her? Who else is in Zhang Weili's division that's compelling?

• 2:27:17Speaker 03

  There's nothing.

• 2:27:18Joe Rogan?

  That's a problem. There's good girls.

• 2:27:19Speaker 03

  The division is tough.

• 2:27:21Speaker 02

  Jasmine, uh...

• 2:27:22Speaker 01

  Jasmine, our girl, the Canadian.

• 2:27:23Speaker 02

  What about Rose Namajunas?

• 2:27:25Joe Rogan?

  She's gone up to, uh, one thirty-five.

• 2:27:27Speaker 02

  Damn, has she?

• 2:27:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Or, excuse me, one twenty-five. She went up to flyweight.

• 2:27:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27:32Joe Rogan?

  Instead of strawweight. She's at, these are, they're fighting at one fifteen.

• 2:27:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:35Joe Rogan?

  But Tatiana looks way bigger than that, doesn't she?

• 2:27:38Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:27:38Joe Rogan?

  She almost looks like a bantamweight.

• 2:27:40Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:27:41Joe Rogan?

  She definitely looks like a one twenty-fiver.

• 2:27:43Speaker 02

  Tough, tough, standing up with no problem, look at this.

• 2:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man, that was a mistake.

• 2:27:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:48Joe Rogan?

  Pulling guillotine.

• 2:27:49Speaker 02

  She just didn't, she didn't have any answers, it's just, it's a...

• 2:27:52Joe Rogan?

  It's just so impressive, the takedown defense, so impressive. And the, the ability to scramble and always wind up on top, like right here, man, that's so impressive.

• 2:28:00Speaker 01

  That's the difference.

• 2:28:00Speaker 02

  She's a great athlete.

• 2:28:01Joe Rogan?

  So, oh, just a tank, man. And also, skills. Just, it's like, you gotta, it's not just athleticism, it's, she's doing the right thing at every step, like here. She, she defends the trip. Bro, we were right.

• 2:28:14Speaker 02

  We were fucking right.

• 2:28:15Speaker 01

  Oh, you guys are so cool!

• 2:28:18Speaker 03

  We feel cool.

• 2:28:19Speaker 01

  We're the cool kids. And Superman's for kids. Fuck you guys!

• 2:28:22Joe Rogan?

  Superdog can go eat shit.

• 2:28:23Speaker 01

  I was on board till Superdog. No, no, no, listen. Watch that! You know what I'm giving up on?

• 2:28:28Joe Rogan?

  The dog has a cape.

• 2:28:29Speaker 01

  I'm giving, I'm not gonna try to fuck him.

• 2:28:31Joe Rogan?

  Does the dog have a cape?

• 2:28:33Speaker 01

  Talk to James Gunn?

• 2:28:34Joe Rogan?

  This makes no sense.

• 2:28:35Speaker 03

  So stupid.

• 2:28:35Joe Rogan?

  Fuck that dog.

• 2:28:36Speaker 01

  Listen, listen, you're a dog person.

• 2:28:39Speaker 02

  I love dogs.

• 2:28:40Joe Rogan?

  I love dogs.

• 2:28:41Speaker 01

  Do you want?

• 2:28:42Joe Rogan?

  I love dogs, but that dog can go eat shit.

• 2:28:44Speaker 01

  You give a fuck that I show him what I'm talking about?

• 2:28:46Joe Rogan?

  I hope Super Wolf eats that dog. I hope they keep that dog chained up outside, oh, the half-guard escape, yeah.

• 2:28:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:52Joe Rogan?

  Um, do it right over here, well.

• 2:28:54Speaker 01

  Right here.

• 2:28:54Joe Rogan?

  Can't see it.

• 2:28:55Speaker 04

  Someone else is gonna have to explain it.

• 2:28:57Speaker 01

  Okay, I don't give a shit. Um, you wanna jump on me?

• 2:29:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. How are we gonna see this?

• 2:29:02Speaker 04

  No one's gonna see it.

• 2:29:03Speaker 01

  No one's gonna see, oh, I'm doing this for you guys, we can talk about it. No, no, because it's such a bitch when we're here.

• 2:29:10Joe Rogan?

  Brian, film this, and you can get Instagram followers.

• 2:29:12Speaker 01

  But I'm here. Alright, get on me, big guy! Alright. Come here, fella! You said you have a back room? Yeah, yeah, no, no, I'm good. Now, if I'm here, and I, she had the underarm.

• 2:29:24Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 2:29:25Speaker 04

  Can't get a camera on him.

• 2:29:26Joe Rogan?

  No, it's okay, Brian's gonna film it. Brian, are you filming this?

• 2:29:30Speaker 01

  If I bring my weight forward, he can't stop me from getting here. But that's what you're gonna do. So from this position, even if he keeps the weight on.

• 2:29:37Joe Rogan?

  Limp arm.

• 2:29:37Speaker 01

  You see my lower body? Look what I do with this leg.

• 2:29:42Speaker 01

  If I pull this leg out and bring my pelvis forward. Oh. Did you see that? Yeah. No, it was get height. Now we both got height. Now we're gonna scramble. Well, we're gonna scramble, unless I wanna get this. Yeah.

• 2:29:52Joe Rogan?

  Limp arm out with the left arm.

• 2:29:53Speaker 01

  You know, but when I bring that leg out, put the pelvis forward. Look how I could just get out of that.

• 2:29:59Joe Rogan?

  Technique, my friend, technique.

• 2:30:02Speaker 01

  You know, but that's such a, I, dude, it's such a, it's a technique. Now I'm even shorter with my shooting.

• 2:30:10Speaker 01

  But even with huge guys, man, it's so fucking good to get out from.

• 2:30:14Joe Rogan?

  It's, isn't it fascinating, just technique? Technique and just knowing position, it makes everything so much more smooth and sweet. Such a beautiful sport.

• 2:30:24Speaker 01

  Goddamn, I love it.

• 2:30:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's the best. Jiu-Jitsu, it's like watching someone pull something off that's magical, it's just like, fuck, yeah.

• 2:30:31Speaker 01

  I know, dude. I get so excited still, my guys are just pulling shit off.

• 2:30:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:30:35Speaker 01

  Grown-ass men, I go, you know you're gonna, because every time they get something, I'm like, oh, gold star! Gold star for John Perez! I'm like, you know you're gonna go home and tell your wife you got a gold star, you're a grown-ass man. And they do, they're like, I did, I told my wife!

• 2:30:47Joe Rogan?

  It's exciting.

• 2:30:48Speaker 01

  I fuck around.

• 2:30:49Joe Rogan?

  That's why when people don't care about belts, oh, don't care about belts, yeah, you do.

• 2:30:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:30:53Joe Rogan?

  Everyone does. Yeah, you do.

• 2:30:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, it's like... The time they put into it, it's like getting a nice pat on the back.

• 2:31:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, it's also, it's like there's stages that show you you're legit. Like Rick Caruso, the guy was running for mayor of LA, his son reached purple belt. I said, hey,

• 2:31:08Speaker 01

  That's a big deal.

• 2:31:09Joe Rogan?

  That's a big fucking deal. Purple belt, you're basically a black belt, you just gotta keep training.

• 2:31:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 2:31:14Joe Rogan?

  If you can get to purple belt, you can get to black belt. You just gotta stay at it and trust the process and keep training hard and you'll get to black belt.

• 2:31:20Speaker 01

  Cause how many people actually get to black?

• 2:31:22Joe Rogan?

  Right, cause people get blue belt, it's like, you know, that's great, it's a nice little motivator, but you show me you got purple belt, that means you're tapping out legit guys.

• 2:31:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:31:30Joe Rogan?

  Now you got some moves, you probably like one nasty.

• 2:31:33Speaker 01

  Usually the purple belt are the worst to roll with.

• 2:31:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, they explode.

• 2:31:35Speaker 01

  They're explosive.

• 2:31:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:31:37Speaker 01

  They have the skills, they still have the experience.

• 2:31:39Speaker 02

  I think when I move to Austin, if I really apply myself, by the time I'm 65.

• 2:31:44Joe Rogan?

  We gotta get you on the peptide, son, you're fucking around with nature for too long.

• 2:31:48Speaker 02

  I know.

• 2:31:48Joe Rogan?

  Nature's boring.

• 2:31:49Speaker 01

  Father Time's.

• 2:31:50Speaker 02

  I swear to God, I'm gonna get on.

• 2:31:50Joe Rogan?

  Father Time is undefeated, son.

• 2:31:53Speaker 01

  He's 10-8 against Brian.

• 2:31:54Joe Rogan?

  You gotta stop.

• 2:31:55Speaker 01

  Fuck with that stem cells and stuff.

• 2:31:56Joe Rogan?

  You're talking on a swerve against Father Time. Next time, we'll do another Protect Your Neck and I'll bring you in the day early and we'll get you to the stem cell place. Ways to Well, no problem. You just tell me when.

• 2:32:05Speaker 01

  I plan, I'll go with my buddy Abe to Columbia in, in June.

• 2:32:09Joe Rogan?

  Come, come to Austin first, cause we'll get it all gratis, you'll get it for freezies. I'll have Ways to Well hook you up and then, you know, we'll do a Protect Your Neck.

• 2:32:19Speaker 01

  Let me know, man.

• 2:32:20Joe Rogan?

  We gotta do another one, those are fun.

• 2:32:22Speaker 01

  Those are fun.

• 2:32:23Joe Rogan?

  We do John Rallo, Dean Toms and Matt.

• 2:32:26Speaker 01

  You know John Rallo?

• 2:32:27Joe Rogan?

  He's fucking amazing. He's the best. John Rallo's the best.

• 2:32:31Speaker 01

  Oh, he's funny, man.

• 2:32:32Joe Rogan?

  I love him to death. He's fun. And he's an ogre.

• 2:32:36Speaker 01

  Oh, he's a giant man.

• 2:32:38Joe Rogan?

  He's a gigantic human being.

• 2:32:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:32:39Joe Rogan?

  Big ass black belt. He was well over 300 pounds at one point.

• 2:32:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:32:45Joe Rogan?

  Here it is, folks, the fucking, motherfucking main event.

• 2:32:49Speaker 01

  Where's that lighter for my cigar?

• 2:32:52Speaker 01

  I know smokes a guy.

• 2:32:53Speaker 02

  He's all, he's all, he's all warmed up.

• 2:32:55Speaker 03

  So, B, you're doing well tonight. So you got, I mean, you took the favorite.

• 2:33:00Joe Rogan?

  You got Strickland.

• 2:33:01Speaker 03

  But you got Strickland?

• 2:33:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:33:02Speaker 03

  So you're taking the dog?

• 2:33:03Joe Rogan?

  Who you got? Who you got, Shawn?

• 2:33:05Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm rooting for Strickland.

• 2:33:07Joe Rogan?

  But DDP, it's.

• 2:33:08Speaker 02

  He's hard, cause he's gonna push the pace and it's really hard.

• 2:33:11Joe Rogan?

  If I were to put money out, probably DDP, but I'm rooting for Strickland.

• 2:33:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. The only thing about.

• 2:33:17Joe Rogan?

  I like the mustache. I really do.

• 2:33:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:33:19Joe Rogan?

  I like him with the mustache. He's like old Bronson, that fucking psychotic guy from Australia.

• 2:33:27Speaker 02

  Yes, he is.

• 2:33:28Joe Rogan?

  I got Strickland.

• 2:33:30Speaker 03

  He looks like a killer.

• 2:33:31Speaker 02

  He is. He's awesome.

• 2:33:32Joe Rogan?

  I think he's very focused. I'm fucking fired up for this.

• 2:33:35Speaker 02

  His, his boxing's outstanding.

• 2:33:37Joe Rogan?

  I'm just curious what changes Strickland can make. He has a great team, I think, the best, you know, besides Matt's team. Probably the best coaching staff they have.

• 2:33:45Speaker 04

  What is this movie?

• 2:33:46Speaker 02

  Who's this, uh, you're saying?

• 2:33:47Joe Rogan?

  Nixick.

• 2:33:48Speaker 04

  Ooh, nice. This movie looks cool.

• 2:33:50Speaker 03

  What is this?

• 2:33:51Speaker 04

  He's 17.

• 2:33:52Speaker 03

  What is it?

• 2:33:52Speaker 04

  It looks like a fun, like Black Mirror movie.

• 2:33:54Joe Rogan?

  His hand just got chopped off.

• 2:33:55Speaker 04

  He plays a guy that's, uh.

• 2:33:56Speaker 02

  Oh, the director of Parasite.

• 2:33:57Speaker 04

  He's made into clones and they keep testing him out. So they keep testing his, like, what can you, what, pushing him till he dies and then they

• 2:34:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 2:34:05Speaker 04

  transfer his consciousness into a new body and then the clones find themselves.

• 2:34:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 2:34:09Speaker 04

  The clones aren't dying. That's like, they show in the trailer.

• 2:34:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. Bro, that's a real problem with like when they can duplicate your consciousness and put it on a hard drive. What's to stop someone like Trump from doing it a million times? I'm gonna have a million of me!

• 2:34:24Speaker 02

  I'm back. I'm back.

• 2:34:26Joe Rogan?

  Have a million Trumps? If we get to a point where you can make a clone, and we're probably already done that, China's probably already have clones. I bet they have clones.

• 2:34:34Speaker 03

  Trump would already do it, but how?

• 2:34:35Joe Rogan?

  You can clone your dog.

• 2:34:37Speaker 03

  You can clone your dog, yeah.

• 2:34:38Joe Rogan?

  So you could probably clone a person.

• 2:34:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, but can you get their consciousness into them?

• 2:34:42Joe Rogan?

  Definitely not. Like, twins are different.

• 2:34:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:44Joe Rogan?

  Right? Twins are like, pretty close.

• 2:34:46Speaker 02

  That Thomas Campbell, uh, podcast was, to me, the most mind blowing thing.

• 2:34:51Joe Rogan?

  Wild stuff, right?

• 2:34:52Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 2:34:52Joe Rogan?

  Wild stuff.

• 2:34:53Speaker 02

  It's as close to unlocking the secrets of what, like, that's, that might be the new evolution. Like, we're, we're going to realize that there's something beyond evolution. Like, that the evolution was, is within a larger umbrella, which is the notion that this is, uh. This is a virtual reality. This is a simulation.

• 2:35:10Joe Rogan?

  It's a virtual reality you're experiencing with consciousness.

• 2:35:12Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:35:13Joe Rogan?

  And consciousness helps form it.

• 2:35:14Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:35:15Speaker 01

  I was literally just experiencing virtual reality.

• 2:35:18Joe Rogan?

  Literally. That's what we're saying.

• 2:35:20Speaker 01

  I was just playing my fucking games.

• 2:35:21Joe Rogan?

  When I knew you were, when I called you and I couldn't get to you, when I was inviting you to dinner, I was like, he's probably got the fucking headset on.

• 2:35:27Speaker 01

  You got a, oh, do you got a camera in there? A camera in the fucking? No, it's fun. Last night I sent you the picture.

• 2:35:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you sent me the picture. You're addicted. What game you playing then?

• 2:35:37Speaker 01

  Contractor's Showdown.

• 2:35:39Joe Rogan?

  Contractor?

• 2:35:39Speaker 01

  Did you ever play Modern Warfare?

• 2:35:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:35:41Speaker 01

  Same shit, but in VR. Oh, fucking nerdgasm. It's so much fun.

• 2:35:47Speaker 02

  I might get addicted to that shit.

• 2:35:48Speaker 01

  Listen, it's fun. I played that shit in the hotel. People think I'm, I, sometimes I'm yelling and shit.

• 2:35:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Are you playing other people?

• 2:35:55Speaker 01

  People probably think somebody's getting murdered. I'm like, I'm stabbing them!

• 2:35:57Speaker 02

  Are you playing a game or other people?

• 2:35:59Speaker 01

  I'm playing a game. No, no, I, I squat up. There's no way you could say this without sounding like a fucking nerd. Stop it. I see you getting ready. But you're, no, because I squat up. It's groups of three. Here we fucking go! Contractor's Showdown. Let's go. You're welcome, Lon.

• 2:36:15Speaker 02

  That's an M1 rifle. Look at that.

• 2:36:16Speaker 01

  Oh, dude, the sniping on this. That's the lobby right there. It's just, but that's the gameplay right here. You get out of an airplane, you fucking find weapons and you just...

• 2:36:25Joe Rogan?

  All in virtual reality.

• 2:36:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, but in virtual reality, like you're loading shit.

• 2:36:29Speaker 03

  How do you have time to do this, man? With all your jujitsu?

• 2:36:33Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 2:36:34Speaker 03

  How do you have time to do this?

• 2:36:34Speaker 02

  You make the time, bro.

• 2:36:36Speaker 01

  Dude, I don't, first of all, I don't think shit. All I do is go to my school and I do my podcast. I'm doing my thing with Jimmy on Filter. I do my new podcast, Matt's Sarah Channel.

• 2:36:46Joe Rogan?

  You're in a book club. So glad you finally did your own podcast.

• 2:36:49Speaker 01

  All I do is talk about those Superman trailers and fucking all that geek shit. But I had George, I had George St. Pierre on the other day.

• 2:36:54Joe Rogan?

  Nice.

• 2:36:54Speaker 01

  And, uh, yeah, so, but, uh...

• 2:36:56Joe Rogan?

  Look at this fucking game. This is amazing.

• 2:36:57Speaker 01

  Oh, this is fun, dude. You like this.

• 2:36:59Joe Rogan?

  And what are you using for a gun? Like, what kind of, what's your hand controller?

• 2:37:02Speaker 01

  You got the controllers and, uh, but when you, your hands are the controllers. So, like, you pick up a gun, you take the, the thing out. So, you're really doing shit with your fucking hands.

• 2:37:12Joe Rogan?

  I'm surprised they don't make like a fake gun.

• 2:37:14Speaker 01

  This is a great game. This is a fantastic game.

• 2:37:16Joe Rogan?

  This is wild.

• 2:37:17Speaker 01

  Contractor's Showdown.

• 2:37:18Speaker 02

  When they have, like, where it turns into a workout?

• 2:37:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, they have some on, they have these unidirectional treadmills. Have you seen those? They strap you in on your chest, you can't move, and you can run in any direction, left, right.

• 2:37:32Speaker 02

  That's fucking great.

• 2:37:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so you're, you're, you're in like this, like a halo that goes around your waist and it's connected to these cables. That's attached to this like circular unidirectional treadmill. And you run in any direction and you really do work out. And guys are fucking screaming at each other, they're all got their heads. See if you can find.

• 2:37:47Speaker 01

  My wife was gonna get that, my wife was gonna get that, but I can't run.

• 2:37:50Joe Rogan?

  That thing right there. So that's a unidirectional treadmill. It's fucking badass. So you get on that thing and when you're on it, you're running around. So watch, this guy's on it, he's gonna start moving. You start walking. Look at that.

• 2:38:02Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 2:38:03Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that crazy?

• 2:38:04Speaker 01

  You know what, my wife got me, she got me one of those vests that when you shoot it, I didn't get it, yeah, she got me that. I didn't get hooked up yet.

• 2:38:10Speaker 02

  These kids now who are, have been playing these games with the guns. When they go to a shooting range, this SWAT guy was saying, these kids are fucking as good as anybody.

• 2:38:19Speaker 03

  Well, there's a kid who does the simulation, they made a movie out of it. He played Gran Trismo, then he actually raced for Nismo.

• 2:38:25Speaker 01

  That's funny.

• 2:38:26Speaker 03

  And came in third.

• 2:38:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's right. That's what's going on with shooting. These kids are, all headshots, ba ba ba.

• 2:38:31Joe Rogan?

  Do you know they did studies with surgeons and they found that surgeons who play video games make like 25% less errors?

• 2:38:37Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 2:38:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:38:38Speaker 02

  Makes sense.

• 2:38:38Speaker 04

  It's 37%.

• 2:38:40Joe Rogan?

  37% less errors. Jesus Christ. That's, that's crazy. So it's like, it's real, like, hand-eye coordination and feedback and motion.

• 2:38:48Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 2:38:48Speaker 01

  And I'm in a house of women, man. Like my wife, my three daughters, they're watching the fucking mass singer or something. I could be in the room with them.

• 2:38:56Speaker 03

  That makes sense.

• 2:38:56Speaker 02

  I did the boxing thing, that's pretty fun.

• 2:38:58Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy that you're in the room with them. They're watching like fucking Gone Girl or something.

• 2:39:02Speaker 01

  Oh, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, uh, yeah, it's fun, man.

• 2:39:08Speaker 03

  It's a workout though, but my son does the VR boxing and sweats his ass off.

• 2:39:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, the VR boxing is great. Because it, when you get hit, you see like a flash of light, like, ew. And eventually they'll have something where you're wearing a headset, you'll feel like a vibration in your face, like you got thumped.

• 2:39:24Speaker 02

  So they, they made this illegal for the MLB, but you can now have a pitcher, they'll take any pitcher, like in the major leagues. And they'll throw.

• 2:39:33Joe Rogan?

  What is it, oh look at this, you have shoes on now.

• 2:39:35Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 2:39:36Joe Rogan?

  I think I like the treadmill better, I'll fall down if I have those stupid shoes on. That looks weird.

• 2:39:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're gonna fall.

• 2:39:41Speaker 03

  He walks weird, too.

• 2:39:42Speaker 02

  But, but they have, um, with the, with major league baseball pitchers, they have a simulation and you can see the actual pitcher and he throws whatever he throws, the ball comes at you.

• 2:39:51Joe Rogan?

  Who told you they made it illegal?

• 2:39:52Speaker 02

  No, they have, they made it illegal, they don't, it's too, they, they don't let, they don't want anybody in the major leagues actually using it.

• 2:39:57Joe Rogan?

  Stop lying.

• 2:39:58Speaker 02

  That's where.

• 2:39:59Speaker 03

  That's to sell video games.

• 2:40:00Speaker 02

  No, Kevin Babe, Kevin Babe was talking about it, the, the, the machine's like a hundred thousand dollars.

• 2:40:03Joe Rogan?

  You can't have it, what happens, you get arrested?

• 2:40:06Speaker 03

  So we're gonna tell on him?

• 2:40:07Speaker 02

  It gives them, it gives them too much of an advantage apparently, so they said you can't use that.

• 2:40:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, too much, we don't want you to be good.

• 2:40:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what happens. You guys don't know, shut up.

• 2:40:15Joe Rogan?

  Find that out, Jamie, it's sticking in his face, you know it can't be true.

• 2:40:18Speaker 02

  No, it is.

• 2:40:19Joe Rogan?

  Find it.

• 2:40:19Speaker 02

  Find that.

• 2:40:20Speaker 03

  Our video games are legal in MLB.

• 2:40:22Speaker 02

  No, no, you can't play, you can't have the actual pitcher simulator.

• 2:40:25Speaker 03

  Whatever I was drinking? Oh, thank you.

• 2:40:29Joe Rogan?

  Let's talk about how much better Jamie is at golf. Than you.

• 2:40:32Speaker 02

  I know.

• 2:40:33Joe Rogan?

  How much better his drive was?

• 2:40:34Speaker 02

  Your, your swing is great, dude.

• 2:40:35Joe Rogan?

  It was very depressing watching you try to compete with him.

• 2:40:37Speaker 03

  Oh, you try, you tried to compete with Jamie?

• 2:40:39Joe Rogan?

  Tried to compete with Jamie's drive.

• 2:40:40Speaker 02

  My swing was actually rather beautiful.

• 2:40:41Joe Rogan?

  It wasn't that good. You got like forty-five yards, Jamie got two sixty-five.

• 2:40:45Speaker 02

  First of all, it was longer than forty-five and plus I wasn't warmed up.

• 2:40:48Joe Rogan?

  Off the deck, by the way, not even with a tee.

• 2:40:50Speaker 03

  Hmm, Jamie, you play how, you play like real or you just play virtual shit?

• 2:40:54Speaker 04

  No, I play real.

• 2:40:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:40:55Speaker 03

  You gotta touch some grass, though.

• 2:40:56Speaker 02

  He's good, man.

• 2:40:57Joe Rogan?

  Virtual shit is where he hones.

• 2:40:59Speaker 03

  Works on the grass.

• 2:41:00Joe Rogan?

  Skills.

• 2:41:01Speaker 03

  You gotta touch grass, though.

• 2:41:02Speaker 02

  Look at Strickland, I love it.

• 2:41:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you gotta touch grass. But he's got that smooth stroke.

• 2:41:06Speaker 02

  He's got that, he's got that man's body, just like a fucking Charles Bronson.

• 2:41:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I'm so pumped for this fight.

• 2:41:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is wild, man.

• 2:41:15Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm just curious, so what changes Strickland's gonna make to win more rounds?

• 2:41:18Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's gotta have to grapple more, does he grapple less? Grapple less.

• 2:41:22Speaker 03

  Or more, does he shoot for takedowns?

• 2:41:24Joe Rogan?

  He said he thinks he's gonna piece him up, that's what he said, which, which means on the feet, jab, teep, a lot of jabs and teeps.

• 2:41:31Speaker 02

  I think you're gonna see DDP wrestle more, I think he's gonna.

• 2:41:35Speaker 03

  I think DDP is, I think Strick, we can see some Strickland, cause remember, this is the same coach that with Francis had him shoot more, surprise everybody.

• 2:41:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna do a lot of wrestling in this fight.

• 2:41:44Speaker 03

  That staff looks legit.

• 2:41:46Speaker 01

  That staff on his left arm, that looks legit. That looks like real staff to me.

• 2:41:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, that does. That's not good.

• 2:41:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, that looks like real staff.

• 2:41:53Speaker 02

  So he's probably on antibiotics.

• 2:41:54Speaker 01

  I gotta think so.

• 2:41:56Speaker 02

  And if he is, that's not good.

• 2:41:57Joe Rogan?

  Unless he said fuck it, let's just go topical.

• 2:42:00Speaker 03

  I bet.

• 2:42:01Joe Rogan?

  And control it. Yeah, he might just control it with topical.

• 2:42:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, you don't want to use antibiotics.

• 2:42:06Joe Rogan?

  Cause you can, you can control it with topical if you stay on it.

• 2:42:09Speaker 02

  It looks like I got dug out a little bit.

• 2:42:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, it looks like a pus. It looks like a big old giant zit.

• 2:42:15Joe Rogan?

  That's where they get scary, when they get big. Cause you think they're getting systemic, you know, they're getting in your bloodstream.

• 2:42:21Speaker 01

  I got a boil or something called falunco or some shit on my fucking collarbone when I was in Brazil. Dude, that was the most disgusting shit. First of all, the mats were disgusting.

• 2:42:31Speaker 02

  Was it staff?

• 2:42:32Speaker 01

  No, it wasn't staff. I think it's a, it's a, they called a boil here or something, whatever it was, but it pus, it got really big, like a big zit. And then finally it like comes to a head. And then at the end you pull out a little piece of phlegm. It looked like a bullet wound in there. It was fucking nasty.

• 2:42:49Speaker 02

  I had cancer on my back. They took out a squeamocell.

• 2:42:51Speaker 01

  Oh, you helped me did it. You know, it did be there.

• 2:42:54Joe Rogan?

  He had to, he had to. He couldn't let you hang on there.

• 2:42:57Speaker 01

  I beat cancer.

• 2:42:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, he cancer.

• 2:43:00Speaker 01

  Oh, you had a fucking little pus? I had cancer.

• 2:43:02Speaker 02

  I beat cancer. But it kept itching. And I was like, the fuck is, why is this itching? And I went and they took out a piece and she called me up and she goes, you got a little squeamocell there, man.

• 2:43:10Speaker 01

  I'm like, let's see.

• 2:43:11Speaker 02

  It was a while ago.

• 2:43:12Speaker 01

  Drakis. They just gave me a cream I gotta put on my nose. You see this little mark here?

• 2:43:18Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 2:43:19Joe Rogan?

  What is it?

• 2:43:20Speaker 01

  It's like a little, the lady said that she's giving me some chemo cream.

• 2:43:24Speaker 02

  It's a basal cell maybe.

• 2:43:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, she goes, but I didn't wanna, they said, I'll use it. I'll start it next week. I was supposed to start it a week ago, but. And then because it's supposed to get like crusty and it's gonna go nasty.

• 2:43:35Speaker 02

  Don't fuck, don't fuck around with something that doesn't, like if it, it keeps bleeding, that's not a.

• 2:43:40Speaker 01

  Well, she said to go back to see her after two weeks of using it.

• 2:43:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:43Speaker 01

  And that she'll know if she has to cut me or anything.

• 2:43:46Speaker 02

  Take it out.

• 2:43:46Speaker 01

  It's from the sun. I like the sun, man.

• 2:43:48Joe Rogan?

  Sun's good for you.

• 2:43:49Speaker 01

  Dude, I was laying out today in the fucking back of my.

• 2:43:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was nice out.

• 2:43:53Speaker 02

  It is good for you.

• 2:43:54Joe Rogan?

  All that bullshit about the sun being bad for you is nonsense. It's just, you shouldn't get overexposure and get burned.

• 2:43:59Speaker 03

  Right. I don't believe in sunscreen.

• 2:44:00Joe Rogan?

  It's supposed to build up.

• 2:44:01Speaker 02

  Moderation. You get dark.

• 2:44:03Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't, I don't use sunscreen, never have, even as a kid.

• 2:44:05Joe Rogan?

  Good for you. That shit's poison.

• 2:44:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, facts.

• 2:44:07Joe Rogan?

  I mean, they have some like natural sunscreens, but it looks like you're wearing blackface.

• 2:44:11Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no.

• 2:44:14Joe Rogan?

  What does natural sunscreen look like?

• 2:44:15Speaker 03

  I'll take the sunburn.

• 2:44:16Joe Rogan?

  It looks like you're a goth, you're a goth kid.

• 2:44:18Speaker 02

  Zinc cream, you know?

• 2:44:19Speaker 03

  You see parents lathering their kids up with them like, I gotta give them some sun.

• 2:44:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:24Joe Rogan?

  They need to, everyone's scared of sunburn. And everyone's scared of cancer.

• 2:44:28Speaker 02

  Depends on your skin, right, depends on.

• 2:44:29Joe Rogan?

  What's up, Jamie? What's this? You see this fucking mustache? I give staff. I don't fucking get staff. Oh, okay.

• 2:44:38Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 2:44:38Joe Rogan?

  That was his take on it.

• 2:44:40Speaker 02

  You see this fucking?

• 2:44:41Joe Rogan?

  I give staff. Strickland asked if he got a staff profession.

• 2:44:43Speaker 02

  I give staff, I don't fucking get staff. Well, that means he has staff.

• 2:44:47Speaker 03

  You see what, you see what Strickland said? At the press conference, he goes, you fight like a, like you ride the short bus like a retard.

• 2:44:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. He does fight.

• 2:44:56Joe Rogan?

  And then Jerkis goes, and you look like the one driving it.

• 2:44:59Speaker 03

  That's funny.

• 2:45:00Joe Rogan?

  But the problem with that is like, the one driving it is a normal person.

• 2:45:03Speaker 02

  Not a good comeback.

• 2:45:03Speaker 03

  I heard that.

• 2:45:04Joe Rogan?

  Not a great comeback.

• 2:45:05Speaker 03

  People liked it, though.

• 2:45:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're dumb. They're dumb, they're not thinking logically. That didn't make sense. I'm fucking pumped.

• 2:45:13Speaker 02

  His coach is jacked.

• 2:45:14Joe Rogan?

  What do you think, Matt?

• 2:45:16Speaker 01

  You know, I'm going with Strickland. I made this, I feel like Strickland's gonna win by decision. But.

• 2:45:23Speaker 02

  Smart money's on DDB.

• 2:45:25Speaker 01

  You know why? Cause like, he adds in those takedowns. But he takes away those takedowns and he puts a little more stank on it. Uh, I feel, who knows how much that cut really bothered him in that, with that eye? Cause he's making, he's, I don't know, I think he's an honest guy and he's saying, and he's saying it fucked with him. You know?

• 2:45:41Joe Rogan?

  I'm sure it did.

• 2:45:42Speaker 02

  I, I have to say that, that, um, Strickland stands pretty straight up. So he does seem open for takedowns and I'm surprised he doesn't get. I know.

• 2:45:49Joe Rogan?

  He's hard to take down.

• 2:45:50Speaker 02

  I'm surprised he doesn't get taken down.

• 2:45:51Joe Rogan?

  Strickland is fucking skillful and he spars so much.

• 2:45:54Speaker 02

  I know.

• 2:45:54Joe Rogan?

  You know, he spars more than anybody in the UFC when they put that mouthpiece in that registers how many times you get hit. He gets hit less than anybody.

• 2:46:00Speaker 03

  Yeah. He's the best, uh, striking defense ever.

• 2:46:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, ever.

• 2:46:03Speaker 02

  That's why I love watching him, he's amazing.

• 2:46:04Speaker 03

  He's gonna.

• 2:46:05Speaker 02

  But DDB's so big.

• 2:46:06Joe Rogan?

  I thought he won the first fight.

• 2:46:07Speaker 03

  Puzzle to solve.

• 2:46:08Joe Rogan?

  I thought he won the first fight, but I thought it was close. Dana thought he won the first fight, too.

• 2:46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:46:13Speaker 01

  And again, he might have been compromised with that, with that eye.

• 2:46:16Joe Rogan?

  He definitely was, but I think also, I think Drakis is even better. I think Drakis just keeps getting better.

• 2:46:23Speaker 01

  He's got that belief in himself.

• 2:46:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man. And he's huge. When I stand next to him, I can't believe he makes 185. I mean, literally, when in between fights, he looks like a heavyweight. He's so big.

• 2:46:35Speaker 02

  He looked like he was 240 standing next to Bizbing, and Bizbing's 220.

• 2:46:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, he looked real thin at the weigh-ins yesterday, and he looks like he filled in a lot. They interviewed him, like, pretty much right after he got on the scales, which I always think sucks. Give the guy a few hours, you know?

• 2:46:50Speaker 02

  You're not allowed to do, uh, uh...

• 2:46:52Joe Rogan?

  IV?

• 2:46:52Speaker 02

  IVs?

• 2:46:53Joe Rogan?

  No, you're not.

• 2:46:53Speaker 02

  Why?

• 2:46:54Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I think he's stupid.

• 2:46:55Speaker 03

  Me too. They think he had masks.

• 2:46:56Joe Rogan?

  I got an IV today. It was awesome.

• 2:46:58Speaker 03

  I love IVs.

• 2:47:00Joe Rogan?

  IV, vitamins, and zinc. Whenever I'm feeling kinda shitty, I get an IV, NAD, vitamins, zinc.

• 2:47:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, what about NAD? They say NAD...

• 2:47:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's great.

• 2:47:08Speaker 02

  It is?

• 2:47:08Joe Rogan?

  Phenomenal. What do they say? What do they say?

• 2:47:10Speaker 02

  You have to shoot it first? You have to shoot it into your body first, or do you...?

• 2:47:13Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:47:13Speaker 02

  You don't take it supplement-wise. You shoot it?

• 2:47:15Joe Rogan?

  No. You can take, you can take NMN, which, like, helps build up it naturally. Has a kind of a similar effect, but I think IV, NAD is the most potent form of it.

• 2:47:26Speaker 02

  You take a lot of stuff.

• 2:47:27Joe Rogan?

  That's right, bitch.

• 2:47:30Joe Rogan?

  Feeling good.

• 2:47:31Speaker 02

  I like it.

• 2:47:32Joe Rogan?

  Feeling good at 85 years old.

• 2:47:34Speaker 02

  Not bad, buddy. You're, when are you 58?

• 2:47:36Joe Rogan?

  Um, August.

• 2:47:39Speaker 01

  Is it gonna feel weird when you say you're 60? Cause it felt weird when I was... 50 felt a little weird.

• 2:47:43Joe Rogan?

  I don't...

• 2:47:43Speaker 03

  Damn, you're 50, bro?

• 2:47:44Joe Rogan?

  I honestly...

• 2:47:45Speaker 01

  I'm fucking 50, bro!

• 2:47:46Speaker 03

  Fuck, you don't look it.

• 2:47:47Speaker 01

  Sorry, guys. I know you're approaching the other one, but I'm 50.

• 2:47:50Speaker 02

  You look good.

• 2:47:51Joe Rogan?

  I'm 57. I'll be 58. I don't think about it anymore, cause there's nothing I can do about it. All I think about is making sure my body works great.

• 2:47:58Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:47:58Joe Rogan?

  And as long as I stay up on the peptides and the hormones and train all the time and constantly work out, do a bunch of different things, kettlebells, cardio, cold plunge, sauna, every day, all these different things, it stays working.

• 2:48:12Speaker 03

  But if you look at a 58-year-old from, like, the 1960s...

• 2:48:15Joe Rogan?

  They were dead, man.

• 2:48:16Speaker 03

  They were dead. It's a different thing, like, 58's different than what it was.

• 2:48:19Joe Rogan?

  Bro, I'm sweating. I'm getting ready for this fight. I'm fucking fired up.

• 2:48:22Speaker 02

  I get nervous.

• 2:48:22Joe Rogan?

  I can't wait.

• 2:48:23Speaker 02

  DDP has actually skinny legs, so a lot of his weight is in his upper body.

• 2:48:27Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if they're skinny.

• 2:48:28Speaker 02

  I mean comparatively, comparatively. Fucking, uh, Behrera's ass, he's got more ass than Beyonce, man. That ass is on a different level.

• 2:48:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't know about that. Who? Pereira, you mean?

• 2:48:37Speaker 02

  I mean, Behrera.

• 2:48:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, my god.

• 2:48:38Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 2:48:39Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that's the scariest kickboxer that's ever fought in the sport. Oh, you, you fuck up one time. Well, just takes one, no, no, no, Pereira. One shot. See what he did to Strickland? Greatest defensive fighter we've seen. Just one left hook.

• 2:48:52Speaker 02

  Different.

• 2:48:53Joe Rogan?

  Starched him. Tagged him a couple of times in the chest, got him reaching for it, came over with that left hook. Night, night. For Izzy's legacy, it's nice he had that one time. It's nice. And the way he did it, the way he executed. And with the arrows at the end. He has, that's enough just to be like, alright, you know what?

• 2:49:09Speaker 02

  Oh, his legacy's.

• 2:49:10Speaker 03

  I think with, uh, with Alex, like, there's a difference between MMA striking, like, the elite strikers and then actual elite strikers.

• 2:49:17Joe Rogan?

  Right, right. He's an actual elite two-division glory world champion. Huge difference. But there's that dude, Vahitov, that's now in MMA, who beat him in glory in his last fight. Close fight, decision. Super controversial fight, yeah. But he won, and he landed more shots than Pereira, and he, he, he's got a style that, like, doesn't leave any openings. He's, like, very technical. He's, like, a really good kickboxer. I don't know what kind of a ground game, if anything, he has.

• 2:49:45Speaker 02

  They got DDP listed at 6'1". Is he, he's not 6'2"?

• 2:49:47Joe Rogan?

  He looks 6'2" to me. Yeah, but those, those guys like that, that are, uh, Russian, those Russian dudes, they learn wrestling when they're fucking babies anyway. I guarantee that guy has some sort of a Sambo background. The shape he's in, holy shit.

• 2:50:02Speaker 02

  He's strong as fuck.

• 2:50:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Vahitov is interesting, because I think he just fought on Dana White's Contender Series.

• 2:50:08Speaker 03

  They signed him?

• 2:50:09Joe Rogan?

  I think they signed him. See that, uh, Artem Vahitov, if he fought on Dana White's Contender Series?

• 2:50:15Speaker 03

  He's just gonna have a tough path to get to Alex. Like, Alex was catapulted to the front because Izzy was so dominant, so they sped him to the front.

• 2:50:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:50:22Speaker 03

  It's gonna be different.

• 2:50:23Joe Rogan?

  No, it's different. Also, it's different because Alex puts people into night-night land. And Vahitov.

• 2:50:29Speaker 04

  He won by TKO.

• 2:50:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he won by TKO. Vahitov is fucking good, man. Super technical. Here we go! Let's fuck. Here we go!

• 2:50:37Speaker 02

  This is an insane way to make a living.

• 2:50:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness. Fucking love it, man. This is it, this is it. Here we go. Here we fucking go. Alright. Round one, let's go!

• 2:50:46Speaker 02

  Look at that.

• 2:50:52Joe Rogan?

  I'm so curious on the adjustments they make.

• 2:50:55Speaker 01

  I think Shawn fights one way, man. I think he's gonna just do more of it.

• 2:50:59Joe Rogan?

  That's a good way. It's such a good way. That jab is just so hard to fuck with.

• 2:51:03Speaker 02

  Straight up.

• 2:51:04Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, DDP did a lot of that in that first fight too. That left switch kick beats up the arms a little bit.

• 2:51:11Speaker 01

  They're getting the old...

• 2:51:12Joe Rogan?

  You know, because even if you block it, like, that sucks. That sucks. I mean, it sucks to your calf. Imagine what it's doing to your forearm.

• 2:51:21Joe Rogan?

  I mean, so many times, guys' arms go numb and you just don't know it, because they're still moving around. It's not like a calf where you see him limping.

• 2:51:29Joe Rogan?

  I mean, how much does that shit take out of your punching power?

• 2:51:32Speaker 02

  That kick.

• 2:51:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was slick with that. He landed a lot of those in the first fight. He's just, he's a guy that for whatever reason, because the way he moves, people sleep on him.

• 2:51:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, they don't give him the respect.

• 2:51:43Joe Rogan?

  It's weird.

• 2:51:44Speaker 02

  Because he doesn't look like your conventional elite.

• 2:51:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, look at that. Sneaky question mark kick.

• 2:51:51Joe Rogan?

  He keeps throwing that up to the top. It's quick, too.

• 2:51:53Speaker 01

  And he's got the endurance to keep throwing them.

• 2:51:56Joe Rogan?

  And there's the low kick.

• 2:51:57Speaker 02

  Shawn's really good at checking his kicks, but he's not checking these.

• 2:52:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, he does that same style of checking kicks that Pereira does, where he kinda hack, yeah, he hacky sacks. You know, you turn that foot all the way up towards your knee.

• 2:52:10Speaker 01

  Love the jab, man.

• 2:52:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. He's so smooth, man.

• 2:52:17Joe Rogan?

  But DDP's doing a smart thing by attacking the legs.

• 2:52:19Speaker 02

  Really smart.

• 2:52:20Joe Rogan?

  Attacking the legs and attacking the arm with the switch kick and then threatening with the high kick.

• 2:52:24Speaker 02

  Ouch, ouch, and ouch. It's just an investment for later rounds.

• 2:52:27Joe Rogan?

  It's such an awkward way of moving. It's so weird. Like, Robert Whittaker and Izzy were talking about, and they're like, he's the best shit fighter ever.

• 2:52:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:52:35Joe Rogan?

  But how do you say that? He's a world, how do you say he's a shit fighter? The guy's a fucking world champion. But it's just, it's awkward, but so effective. Like, when he took out Robert Whittaker in the first round, I was like, my god.

• 2:52:47Speaker 01

  He's powerful, athletic.

• 2:52:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god. He's so strong.

• 2:52:50Speaker 02

  Just durable. He's durable as fucking...

• 2:52:53Speaker 01

  This is the old feeling out stage.

• 2:52:55Joe Rogan?

  And that, but that move that he's doing, the high kick.

• 2:52:58Speaker 02

  Shawn's moving him back, though. It's interesting.

• 2:52:59Speaker 01

  Oh, spinning back.

• 2:53:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, this is where Shawn fights at his best, but, but DDP is by doing those switch kicks and those low kicks, there he did the hacky sack on that one.

• 2:53:09Speaker 02

  Stand in your grill, look at Shawn. Pop, pop.

• 2:53:12Joe Rogan?

  That is a dangerous move, that left kick, cause it's sneaky. He didn't land it to the face in the first fight, but he threatened with it a bunch of times. If he can land that, that's a fucking fight changer.

• 2:53:25Joe Rogan?

  Shawn's so hard to hit.

• 2:53:26Speaker 02

  He is, man.

• 2:53:27Joe Rogan?

  So hard to hit clean. His instincts and his timing because he spars so much.

• 2:53:31Speaker 03

  Active out there, man.

• 2:53:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:53:33Speaker 03

  DP's winning the round.

• 2:53:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's certainly landing more kicks, right?

• 2:53:37Speaker 03

  That's what matters for the judges.

• 2:53:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, damage matters. I mean, if Shawn can get off a one-two, if he could do something significant, but right now, it's like just trying to touch him. And DDP's not letting him set up.

• 2:53:49Speaker 03

  Nope. He's not letting him get in a groove.

• 2:53:53Joe Rogan?

  Shawn does not kick that much, you know? And when he kicks, it's very linear. He's got a really fucked up, was it right leg?

• 2:53:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, his quad. He doesn't have a quad.

• 2:54:00Joe Rogan?

  It's all fucked up from a motorcycle. He was just riding a motorcycle on the countdown show and fell down. He's crazy. Yeah, he fell down. He's crazy.

• 2:54:10Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he's got a giant fight coming up, but he's still riding motorcycles. He was wrestling with guys in Australia on a beach, on a bridge, throwing them into the water.

• 2:54:18Speaker 02

  Yep. Doing backflips.

• 2:54:20Joe Rogan?

  I saw that, yeah. It's an animal.

• 2:54:22Speaker 01

  He's getting outpointed right now, though, only because he's, only because he's not busy enough.

• 2:54:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, DDP's winning this round.

• 2:54:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's definitely more active. Oh, there's that jab. Boy, you hit DDP, he gets mad.

• 2:54:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, he does.

• 2:54:35Joe Rogan?

  He goes bulldog mode on you.

• 2:54:40Joe Rogan?

  He's just gotta do something significant, other than just touch him with the jab.

• 2:54:45Speaker 03

  Shawn?

• 2:54:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:54:46Speaker 03

  He really doesn't do much more than that.

• 2:54:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's looking for them openings and right, oh, it's a low kick is so nice. The timing is so nice.

• 2:54:56Joe Rogan?

  And I think DDP just keeps getting better too, that's the thing. And then as a champion, you know, I mean, I think he's got even more confidence.

• 2:55:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think he has a lot more growth and adjustments to make to beat Strickland.

• 2:55:08Joe Rogan?

  And the kicks are just a totally different element, right? I mean, it's a distance thing, it's a, you know, it's a power thing. You gotta kind of like, you can't fire back when they're hitting you, you gotta really block them.

• 2:55:19Speaker 01

  And think about it, he hasn't even started grappling yet, so that's still in the chamber.

• 2:55:23Joe Rogan?

  It's just Shawn is like mostly teeps and then jab one too. But it's almost all straight at you. Very few low kicks.

• 2:55:32Speaker 01

  Just took place in the center.

• 2:55:34Joe Rogan?

  See, it's all the teeps.

• 2:55:39Joe Rogan?

  He's doing a good job of avoiding those big bombs that are coming at him.

• 2:55:42Speaker 02

  He's so hard to hit, man.

• 2:55:44Joe Rogan?

  He is, but he's getting his legs chewed up, man. That was the first round for the champion.

• 2:55:48Speaker 01

  You go back to corner like, bud, we can't keep doing this. You gotta take away those legs.

• 2:55:52Joe Rogan?

  You're on him out. Here's the question, is Strickland on antibiotics?

• 2:55:59Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that looks like a real fucking staph infection. I know Rockhold beat Widman when he was on antibiotics. You know, guys have won big fights on antibiotics.

• 2:56:07Speaker 01

  You got your Gracie one?

• 2:56:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's so hard to fight on that stuff. Your energy is drained.

• 2:56:12Speaker 01

  The worst.

• 2:56:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's horrible.

• 2:56:13Speaker 01

  I mean, unless he's just keeping his, uh, keeping his energy for the later rounds.

• 2:56:19Joe Rogan?

  Matt, is there a way to mitigate the effects of antibiotics? Have you ever heard of anything that the guys take?

• 2:56:26Speaker 01

  Nah, man, I didn't hear anything.

• 2:56:27Joe Rogan?

  Like heavy probiotics? Is there anything that you can take that?

• 2:56:30Speaker 01

  I have no clue, dude. I know Murab fought his first fight when he was getting over something. Anyway, I still think he won, he got robbed, but, uh...

• 2:56:38Joe Rogan?

  He was on antibiotics? It hits your heart.

• 2:56:40Speaker 01

  Either he's on it, I know he just got over it, but I think it was the antibiotics.

• 2:56:43Speaker 03

  They said that last fight, Murab had a horrible staph infection on his shin.

• 2:56:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:56:47Speaker 03

  Is that, he had a bad problem?

• 2:56:48Joe Rogan?

  I broke my back on the shin. He's just like, "Rob, you won, you won."

• 2:56:56Speaker 01

  There we go.

• 2:56:56Speaker 02

  One round DDP.

• 2:56:57Joe Rogan?

  Alright, let's go.

• 2:56:58Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 2:56:59Joe Rogan?

  Let's see what adjustments Strickland makes.

• 2:57:00Speaker 02

  I don't think he's gonna make any adjustments. I think he's gonna...

• 2:57:02Speaker 01

  He's gotta be busy.

• 2:57:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, he's gotta make some adjustments to deal with these kicks.

• 2:57:06Speaker 03

  He's gonna lose five rounds if he doesn't change. And DDP's gonna start wrestling soon, too. Cause once Strickland starts committing, he's gonna start shooting.

• 2:57:14Joe Rogan?

  DDP's so sneaky with that high kick. That's a nasty high kick, man.

• 2:57:20Joe Rogan?

  And there's a low kick again. He checked that one.

• 2:57:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, he checked it.

• 2:57:24Speaker 01

  He's gotta get through that shell, man.

• 2:57:26Speaker 02

  He's gotta get a little loose.

• 2:57:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta do something big.

• 2:57:29Speaker 01

  He's got his bike.

• 2:57:33Speaker 02

  It's gotta be frustrating that you can just do whatever you want to DDP and he just absorbs it. Oh.

• 2:57:38Joe Rogan?

  There again, he's sneaking that kick in.

• 2:57:46Speaker 01

  He's gotta get pissier.

• 2:57:47Speaker 03

  See, Strickland's doing a great job avoiding a lot of shots, but he's just not doing much.

• 2:57:52Joe Rogan?

  Right. And DDP keeps chopping at the legs. It's not everything in a fight, but it's something, you know? It's like no headshots have been landed.

• 2:58:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, in this fight, it's everything. It's all been landing.

• 2:58:02Joe Rogan?

  To the body, again.

• 2:58:04Speaker 02

  He's catching his elbow though.

• 2:58:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but still, that's horrible, dude.

• 2:58:07Speaker 03

  It's still points though.

• 2:58:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's something. It's the most... Oh, there's a right hand over the top. Needs a little more of that. Oh, here we go.

• 2:58:16Speaker 03

  DDP's gonna start wrestling.

• 2:58:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm surprised, yeah. I would imagine part of the game.

• 2:58:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Strickland's turning the gas.

• 2:58:23Speaker 01

  This is what we need.

• 2:58:24Joe Rogan?

  Strickland's hitting the gas now. We need this. He can't leave these rounds in the hands of the judges. This is the second round already.

• 2:58:34Speaker 03

  Oh, again.

• 2:58:35Speaker 02

  Checked it.

• 2:58:36Joe Rogan?

  I know, but it's still, it's like, he's keeping him off balance with all that shit. Every time he goes to set up, which he sets up with everybody, DDP is just constantly doing this. Low kick with the right coming, there it is. It's like he's constantly got these patterns that he throws. In this, in that stance, it's the switch.

• 2:58:54Speaker 02

  Switching up, yeah.

• 2:58:56Speaker 01

  She wants coming forward.

• 2:58:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there's a left hand. Oh, he landed that left hand.

• 2:58:59Speaker 03

  He's coming forward.

• 2:59:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, it did.

• 2:59:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, because he's landing that in the transitions of these... Oh, there's a nice right hand.

• 2:59:05Speaker 01

  That was a nice counter.

• 2:59:05Joe Rogan?

  Nice right hand. Nice right hand.

• 2:59:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:59:08Joe Rogan?

  Just no... Oh, there it is. There it is.

• 2:59:11Speaker 01

  You gotta put yourself a little in harm's way to do harm.

• 2:59:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:59:15Speaker 01

  Let's fucking go.

• 2:59:17Speaker 02

  That's a fast front check kick, man.

• 2:59:19Joe Rogan?

  He needs to get DDP to start engaging in a boxing slugfest. Cause he, DDP's doing such a smart move with mixing in all these kicks, which fucks with everything. It fucks with your ability to like time everything, yeah. And you have to keep getting reset. You get to keep reset. And every time you do it, he hits you again with it.

• 2:59:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's not letting him get comfortable.

• 2:59:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Strickland's...

• 2:59:39Speaker 02

  Nice, Sean.

• 2:59:40Joe Rogan?

  Where's he bleeding from? Where's Strickland bleeding from?

• 2:59:42Speaker 02

  His lip. He got caught with a jab.

• 2:59:44Speaker 01

  He's having a way better round, though.

• 2:59:47Speaker 02

  He's also much more aggressive.

• 2:59:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:59:50Speaker 02

  Much more forward.

• 2:59:51Speaker 01

  This is it.

• 2:59:53Speaker 01

  This is it. Yeah, sure. Let's go.

• 2:59:55Speaker 02

  America's America.

• 2:59:59Speaker 01

  He's getting in the zone now, man.

• 3:00:01Speaker 02

  Man, Shawn can just stand right there and just...

• 3:00:04Joe Rogan?

  He can celebrate in the Gulf of America after this. Oh, nice inside low kick.

• 3:00:10Speaker 02

  Those fucking kicks are a pain in the ass.

• 3:00:12Joe Rogan?

  They're a pain in the ass because he's constantly resetting you.

• 3:00:14Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:00:15Joe Rogan?

  You know, again, like he's constantly reset. He never gives you a chance. There again, high kick. He's just again, low kick. Yeah. And the fucking, it's a smart game plan, man.

• 3:00:25Speaker 03

  Until Shawn shuts it down, he's just gonna keep.

• 3:00:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, he can keep doing this. He can keep doing this.

• 3:00:30Speaker 03

  He's banking rounds.

• 3:00:31Joe Rogan?

  And it's gonna take Shawn's legs away from him if he keeps doing it. I mean, Shawn, as tough as he is, can only take so many of those fucking kicks to the legs.

• 3:00:39Speaker 02

  He keeps throwing shit. He's, he checked out.

• 3:00:42Speaker 01

  He's constantly throwing shit.

• 3:00:43Joe Rogan?

  I know, but even checking them, they fucking blow. They suck.

• 3:00:47Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:00:48Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 3:00:49Joe Rogan?

  His left leg is all welted up.

• 3:00:51Speaker 01

  Make it ugly, man. Gotta make it ugly.

• 3:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta.

• 3:00:54Speaker 03

  He's gonna have to stop just sit on the outside.

• 3:00:55Joe Rogan?

  There's the jab, right hand to the body. Nice.

• 3:00:58Speaker 02

  Fucking nice.

• 3:01:00Joe Rogan?

  There's another hard low kick, man. These are hard kicks, man.

• 3:01:04Speaker 02

  They're a bitch.

• 3:01:06Joe Rogan?

  It's part of, you know, the game that Shawn just doesn't do.

• 3:01:11Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting because he's so good, but it's like such a specific attack, but he's so good at it.

• 3:01:16Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:01:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he snuck it in again.

• 3:01:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, but.

• 3:01:18Joe Rogan?

  He touched him with that.

• 3:01:19Speaker 02

  Grazed him. Look at that.

• 3:01:20Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he's not getting clean with that, but it counts.

• 3:01:24Speaker 02

  It counts.

• 3:01:25Joe Rogan?

  It does count.

• 3:01:27Joe Rogan?

  Because Shawn definitely doesn't want him kicking him in the face.

• 3:01:29Speaker 02

  Good. Ouch.

• 3:01:30Joe Rogan?

  That's a nice right hand. That's a nice right hand. Oh. Now that makes it ugly. Let's go. Let's go.

• 3:01:37Speaker 03

  Third, fourth is gonna be interesting.

• 3:01:39Speaker 02

  Caught him there.

• 3:01:42Joe Rogan?

  It is crazy when you look at Shawn's style, like who fucking fights like this? Stands totally straight up, does mostly front kicks.

• 3:01:49Speaker 02

  That's part of why he doesn't have as much power though.

• 3:01:50Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 3:01:51Joe Rogan?

  But it's also why he's so fucking hard to hit, man.

• 3:01:54Speaker 02

  Hell yeah, he's great defense, best defense in, in the game.

• 3:01:58Speaker 01

  That's a, what do you think of that round?

• 3:02:00Joe Rogan?

  Close.

• 3:02:01Speaker 01

  It was closer, it was closer, but he might have been more active.

• 3:02:04Joe Rogan?

  It seemed like he definitely landed more kicks, but Strickland landed a few good punches in that round at least.

• 3:02:09Speaker 01

  It was a better round for him, but now he's, he-

• 3:02:11Speaker 02

  Great conditioning though.

• 3:02:13Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, something against strikes, 28 to 17.

• 3:02:15Speaker 01

  Shit.

• 3:02:16Joe Rogan?

  He's just more active.

• 3:02:17Speaker 01

  More active.

• 3:02:18Joe Rogan?

  So Strickland's down two rounds now.

• 3:02:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:02:23Speaker 01

  He's got a, he's like, I'm sure Nick Six is letting him know.

• 3:02:25Joe Rogan?

  And DDP's gonna keep doing it, then once Strickland does that, then he starts to-

• 3:02:29Speaker 02

  That's Nick Six's, it's his, uh, the guy with the red hair?

• 3:02:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:02:32Speaker 01

  I think, uh, whoever said, "Shama." He's Shama.

• 3:02:38Joe Rogan?

  There's that kick, there's a nice jab.

• 3:02:43Joe Rogan?

  Right hand over the top.

• 3:02:44Speaker 01

  You gotta do some more of that.

• 3:02:45Speaker 02

  Slips that shit, look at that.

• 3:02:48Joe Rogan?

  Shawn just gets just out of the way of the danger zone, it's just touching him.

• 3:02:53Speaker 02

  Great eyes, like he can just boom.

• 3:02:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, he spars so much, man, and there's something to be said for that.

• 3:02:58Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Something to be said for that, because that's like the majority of his training is sparring.

• 3:03:02Speaker 02

  I think he spars without a headgear too, and all, because it's just, you know.

• 3:03:06Speaker 01

  Let's go, let's go, round three, let's go.

• 3:03:15Joe Rogan?

  Strick is just constant with these kicks, and it's just like, it's such an obvious pattern too. He does it over and over again.

• 3:03:23Speaker 01

  He's got, you see him trying to get into him now.

• 3:03:27Joe Rogan?

  Strick is gonna have to take some chances here. Yeah, he, that was a good check, he checked with the other leg.

• 3:03:38Joe Rogan?

  He's gotta get something off and really win a round definitively and push, push a harder pace. Cause this shit like Drakis could do this from the outside and he keeps having to reset.

• 3:03:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice. That little stutter step. See that little stutter step?

• 3:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Jay, reach is so weird.

• 3:03:58Speaker 01

  He's in shape fucking Drakis.

• 3:04:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, check that one.

• 3:04:03Speaker 01

  Constantly throwing shit.

• 3:04:04Speaker 02

  He's more busy, that's for sure.

• 3:04:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's like Sean is just not getting a chance to get things off. Like the, the, the time he's looking for the openings, they're just not there.

• 3:04:17Joe Rogan?

  But as it gets into the pace, if Drakis, I mean Drakis is expending a lot of energy fighting like this.

• 3:04:22Speaker 01

  And, and Strickland usually gets way stronger than the.

• 3:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh boy. There goes.

• 3:04:26Speaker 01

  I like that to the body too, more of that.

• 3:04:28Joe Rogan?

  One, two, and a hook. Yeah.

• 3:04:30Speaker 03

  More than one punch, more than two. Mix it up.

• 3:04:34Joe Rogan?

  What a crazy style.

• 3:04:36Speaker 01

  Both of them.

• 3:04:37Joe Rogan?

  You mean, very few round kicks. Just teeps, a lot of jabs, right hands.

• 3:04:43Speaker 01

  I can see Strickland doing the bad knuckle eventually, no?

• 3:04:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he could do it.

• 3:04:46Speaker 01

  I can see him doing that, yeah.

• 3:04:48Joe Rogan?

  He'd probably wanna do it too.

• 3:04:52Joe Rogan?

  Connor keeps talking about doing it. That might be the next time we see him.

• 3:04:56Speaker 03

  A good chance against Jimmy Stevens.

• 3:04:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, imagine that.

• 3:05:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, he probably said it after he had a lot of, uh, caffeine.

• 3:05:03Speaker 02

  You think we'll ever see Connor in the UFC?

• 3:05:07Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if Connor's ever gonna fight again. He's worth so much money.

• 3:05:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think so.

• 3:05:11Joe Rogan?

  It's hard when a guy's worth that much money. And then when he got saucy.

• 3:05:15Speaker 01

  What's gonna be scary with him in his own life is when he's out of the limelight. Cause I think he's a dude that likes the limelight. What's gonna happen when he's an older fighter now, retired officially. No one's expecting him back. Now what?

• 3:05:28Joe Rogan?

  Right. Does he get crazy?

• 3:05:30Speaker 03

  Yeah. Cause that's why he keeps teasing the fight, to stay in the news.

• 3:05:34Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 3:05:36Joe Rogan?

  That was a good right hand there by Strickland.

• 3:05:41Joe Rogan?

  It's just DDP does not give you much chance to set up, man.

• 3:05:45Speaker 02

  It's just weird shit like that.

• 3:05:46Speaker 03

  Strickland just has to hope he kind of phases.

• 3:05:48Joe Rogan?

  I feel like he just needs to just make this uglier. Like, he's gotta get closer to him.

• 3:05:54Speaker 03

  It's just not his style.

• 3:05:56Speaker 01

  Oh, did he catch that?

• 3:05:57Joe Rogan?

  Yup, he got him a little bit with that, that spin.

• 3:06:01Speaker 02

  Just grazing him.

• 3:06:02Joe Rogan?

  He just, god, he's constantly, he never rests. And he's another guy who relies on his fitness too, because this is an exhausting style, man.

• 3:06:10Speaker 03

  Oh, wild, when you're walking that ring and you're like, alright, five rounds, you know it's probably going five.

• 3:06:15Joe Rogan?

  It's all exploding and like, closing distance. That's a nice kick to the body.

• 3:06:24Joe Rogan?

  It's never stopping, man. He just does not give Strickland a chance to reset. And Strickland's gotta get something big off, because this could be the round that makes it out of reach.

• 3:06:33Speaker 02

  Strickland seems a little bit...

• 3:06:35Speaker 01

  I wanna see what happens. If he loses this round, he's gonna have to be going for broke.

• 3:06:38Joe Rogan?

  Right, because what, this is the round that passes him, like, to a point where he can't win a decision.

• 3:06:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:06:44Speaker 03

  Strickland, he comes on heavy in the fourth and fifth, but their last fight, Strickland didn't do much in the fourth.

• 3:06:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but so does Dricus, that's the problem. There it is. He's gotta like, do something, put a stamp on this round.

• 3:06:56Speaker 03

  Like wobble over.

• 3:06:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta, he's gotta put it on him. He's gotta win this round. Oh, nice. Nice spin.

• 3:07:06Speaker 03

  That elbow landed flush.

• 3:07:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, man, because he's unable to pressure him, he's still looking fresh.

• 3:07:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh! He caught him with a right hand there.

• 3:07:17Speaker 03

  Opening up a little now.

• 3:07:19Joe Rogan?

  It's just, he's not getting a chance to get that offense off. It's very impressive. Just, he never gives him a chance to set up. Always.

• 3:07:27Speaker 02

  I'm just surprised, DuPlessis isn't going for like a singular double.

• 3:07:31Speaker 03

  He doesn't need to. Why would you? You're up three rounds, man. Why would you risk it? And get more tired? Because he can do this for five rounds.

• 3:07:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he clipped him there.

• 3:07:40Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 3:07:41Joe Rogan?

  That was a crazy, like, swinging right hand.

• 3:07:44Speaker 01

  He still has that in his back pocket.

• 3:07:45Speaker 02

  Ah, look at that fucking kick, no.

• 3:07:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that was a hard low kick.

• 3:07:48Speaker 02

  Yikes, that kick is low and hard.

• 3:07:51Speaker 01

  There you go.

• 3:07:52Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 3:07:53Joe Rogan?

  There it is.

• 3:07:53Speaker 01

  There it is.

• 3:07:54Speaker 03

  And that's the rest.

• 3:07:55Speaker 01

  Oh, we're sending the coach, Callan.

• 3:07:56Joe Rogan?

  And that's the round.

• 3:07:57Speaker 01

  Gotcha, you heard ya.

• 3:07:58Speaker 02

  We worked on wrestling, guys.

• 3:07:59Joe Rogan?

  Back up to his feet.

• 3:08:00Speaker 01

  Sure.

• 3:08:01Joe Rogan?

  He doesn't do much of the takedowns because Shawn gets back, but he scores for him. He's gotta give it to him. There it is.

• 3:08:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, Shawn's gotta throw some shit.

• 3:08:08Joe Rogan?

  He's gotta really give it to him.

• 3:08:09Speaker 01

  Shawn's down three rounds?

• 3:08:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's down three rounds.

• 3:08:11Speaker 01

  And he knows it.

• 3:08:12Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 3:08:13Speaker 01

  He fucking knows it. That's rough.

• 3:08:15Speaker 02

  He seems a little lackadaisical.

• 3:08:16Speaker 01

  I wonder if it's the antibiotics. I wonder.

• 3:08:19Joe Rogan?

  Or is it DDB style?

• 3:08:20Speaker 01

  It's both.

• 3:08:21Joe Rogan?

  It's a problem.

• 3:08:22Speaker 01

  It might be both.

• 3:08:22Speaker 02

  Hard to.

• 3:08:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, probably both. Probably combo both. I wonder what Nick's saying to him here. We gotta open up, take some chances.

• 3:08:29Speaker 02

  He's not taking... Shawn's not taking any damage at all. It's just he's getting his legs kicked and scoring.

• 3:08:35Speaker 01

  No, he's losing the fight.

• 3:08:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:08:38Speaker 01

  He's saying you gotta push. Here we see.

• 3:08:45Speaker 02

  If I'm... Yeah. All right, he's just boom.

• 3:08:51Joe Rogan?

  Good right hand by Shawn.

• 3:08:54Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 3:08:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he caught him with that.

• 3:08:56Speaker 01

  Man, he got him with that one.

• 3:08:57Joe Rogan?

  He hit his elbow.

• 3:08:58Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 3:08:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:09:00Speaker 01

  But he caught him with his, like, back of his arm.

• 3:09:01Joe Rogan?

  That was nice.

• 3:09:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. Instead of the flush elbow. He's gotta get fuck... He... He looks a little... He's gotta get going.

• 3:09:08Speaker 02

  He's a little tired, actually, there.

• 3:09:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it could be the pace, but it could be the fucking antibiotics, too. Yeah, we're not gonna know till later.

• 3:09:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:09:21Speaker 01

  Nice kick to the body again.

• 3:09:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a pain in the ass. It's a front foot kick, though.

• 3:09:25Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 3:09:26Speaker 02

  Right, so it's not as powerful, but...

• 3:09:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's landing.

• 3:09:28Speaker 03

  Doesn't matter, Brian.

• 3:09:30Speaker 02

  It's scored, right?

• 3:09:31Speaker 01

  He's losing rounds.

• 3:09:31Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:09:32Speaker 01

  Ooh, I like that.

• 3:09:33Speaker 02

  To the chinny-chin-chin.

• 3:09:34Speaker 01

  I like that shit.

• 3:09:35Speaker 02

  To the chinny-chin-chin-chin.

• 3:09:37Joe Rogan?

  That was nice.

• 3:09:38Speaker 02

  Come on, Shawn, eh?

• 3:09:39Joe Rogan?

  He's gotta put it on him, though. He's gotta really put it on this round.

• 3:09:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, he doesn't seem to be falling up that right hand.

• 3:09:45Speaker 01

  But it's tough to put it on because fucking DDB's so dangerous.

• 3:09:50Speaker 02

  Well, you don't want to get in a slugfest with DDP, right?

• 3:09:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you kind of have to.

• 3:09:54Joe Rogan?

  It's like the other choices, you stay back and you lose a fourth round. Now you're down 4-0.

• 3:09:59Speaker 01

  At a certain point, you gotta throw caution to the wind, man.

• 3:10:01Speaker 03

  If you want the win, you gotta say fuck it.

• 3:10:02Speaker 01

  Listen, you want to hurt him, you're gonna be there to get hurt, but you're gonna have to take that chance. Otherwise, you're just gonna, it's gonna go this round.

• 3:10:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, because what we're doing now is not working.

• 3:10:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:10:11Speaker 02

  It is a pain. Every time you come close, you get kicked in the stomach and fucking, just ugh.

• 3:10:16Speaker 01

  You know?

• 3:10:17Joe Rogan?

  It's just the conditioning. Ooh, nice right hand. The conditioning to fight like this. Oh, he hurt him. He hurt him. He hurt him.

• 3:10:23Speaker 01

  He did hurt him and he hurt him. He may break his nose, the bridge of the nose.

• 3:10:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:10:27Speaker 01

  He's trying to fix it, it looks like.

• 3:10:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Sean's trying to fix his nose.

• 3:10:30Speaker 01

  It looks like he's trying to straighten it out.

• 3:10:31Speaker 02

  Damn it.

• 3:10:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:10:34Speaker 02

  That sucks.

• 3:10:35Joe Rogan?

  His nose is broken.

• 3:10:36Speaker 01

  He smells it too. He must have felt it too, maybe, when he punched him.

• 3:10:39Speaker 03

  What, he just hit him with that?

• 3:10:40Speaker 01

  I don't know, man, but all of a sudden, it's getting weird. Look at his nose.

• 3:10:44Joe Rogan?

  That nose is a mess.

• 3:10:45Speaker 02

  That's not good. He got his nose broken.

• 3:10:47Speaker 01

  It's like it's painted red.

• 3:10:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 3:10:50Speaker 01

  Who knows what the fuck he felt if he's...

• 3:10:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, he's leaking. This is a big round for the champ. Oh, right hand, another one. Oh.

• 3:10:58Speaker 01

  Man, they say damage doesn't... Oh, fuck.

• 3:11:03Speaker 03

  Drakis is such a fucking bulldog, dude.

• 3:11:05Joe Rogan?

  Drakis smelling blood now. But you gotta be careful.

• 3:11:09Speaker 02

  Not fun. Fucking can't breathe. Broken nose. Fuck this.

• 3:11:12Speaker 01

  Nah, it's... It's a rough fucking game.

• 3:11:16Joe Rogan?

  Strickland's defense is so fucking good.

• 3:11:18Speaker 02

  Still good. Still good.

• 3:11:19Joe Rogan?

  Duplessis is just wild.

• 3:11:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can't touch that nose.

• 3:11:22Joe Rogan?

  Reckless.

• 3:11:23Speaker 01

  I mean, he sees him with his nose like this.

• 3:11:25Speaker 02

  DDP's a little tired. A little tired. Come on, Sean.

• 3:11:28Joe Rogan?

  Look at this style. But the thing is, he never stops coming at you like this. Even though he's fucking dog tired, he's so game.

• 3:11:40Speaker 01

  Oh, man, this is a nail biter, eh, with this.

• 3:11:43Joe Rogan?

  It's like he has these patterns that he sets up with.

• 3:11:49Speaker 01

  Man.

• 3:11:49Joe Rogan?

  Big breasts by DDP.

• 3:11:52Speaker 01

  Well, Sean's nose is destroyed.

• 3:11:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:11:54Speaker 01

  If he touches him there one more time, he's fucked.

• 3:11:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice right hand by Sean.

• 3:12:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, Sean, since he busted his nose, is doing way better. He kinda said, "Fuck it," and he's sitting more in the pocket.

• 3:12:06Speaker 01

  Well, he's gotta, oh, he tagged him again. He's gotta realize he's in trouble.

• 3:12:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:12:11Speaker 01

  I mean, he's down, this is like four rounds.

• 3:12:14Speaker 03

  Yep. More significant damage done, too.

• 3:12:26Speaker 01

  It's like that Rory McDonald nose that time.

• 3:12:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 3:12:29Speaker 02

  Couldn't see.

• 3:12:30Speaker 03

  Oh, the Rory McDonald.

• 3:12:31Speaker 02

  That's what he said, so he went, he went.

• 3:12:32Speaker 03

  His face was pale.

• 3:12:34Speaker 01

  With Robbie Lawler.

• 3:12:35Speaker 02

  He was never really the same after that.

• 3:12:37Speaker 01

  Never.

• 3:12:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right hand, right hand by Drakis. That was a big one.

• 3:12:49Speaker 02

  Can't breathe, fuck this.

• 3:12:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, shit.

• 3:12:51Speaker 02

  Ugh, you must be like, just fuck.

• 3:12:53Speaker 01

  But these aren't cardio.

• 3:12:54Speaker 02

  Fuck this night.

• 3:12:55Joe Rogan?

  Right hand.

• 3:12:58Speaker 01

  It doesn't feel like fighting punches, though.

• 3:13:00Joe Rogan?

  Woo, Drakis is so wild, look at this.

• 3:13:04Joe Rogan?

  Just exploding, man. The guy's got such fucking cardio for a guy who explodes like this. It's so impressive that he can hold up this pace deep into the fourth.

• 3:13:17Joe Rogan?

  Cause he always looks like he's in the, like, at the brink of slowing down, and it never happens.

• 3:13:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my goodness.

• 3:13:26Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ.

• 3:13:28Speaker 01

  Man, dude. Forty more seconds of this.

• 3:13:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right hand.

• 3:13:33Speaker 01

  He's rolling with it, but still.

• 3:13:37Joe Rogan?

  God, Drakis is just swinging for the fences with every punch.

• 3:13:44Speaker 03

  I feel like ever since Drakis hurt his nose, he's getting a little sloppy. He's trying to zero in.

• 3:13:49Joe Rogan?

  Well, he just can't get hit there again, you know? I mean, it's destroyed.

• 3:13:57Joe Rogan?

  And he really hasn't been able to hurt him. He hasn't done one thing that really rocked him.

• 3:14:02Speaker 03

  There's nothing significant by Strickland.

• 3:14:06Speaker 01

  Like you have to, even if he does the fucking windmill in the next round, he's gotta do something, man. He's gotta throw some shit.

• 3:14:12Joe Rogan?

  Stop him.

• 3:14:13Speaker 03

  He's down four rounds.

• 3:14:14Joe Rogan?

  He's gotta stop him. Look at his nose. Oh my god, look at his nose, dude. It's shattered.

• 3:14:19Speaker 01

  That's what he tried to do. You saw him trying to push it back into place.

• 3:14:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god, it's shattered.

• 3:14:24Speaker 01

  That's, that's rough, man.

• 3:14:25Joe Rogan?

  Fuck.

• 3:14:26Speaker 03

  Dude.

• 3:14:38Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 3:14:39Speaker 03

  Jesus Christ.

• 3:14:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, look at that.

• 3:14:44Speaker 01

  Boom.

• 3:14:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh my goodness.

• 3:14:51Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy that he had to touch it. That's crazy.

• 3:14:54Speaker 01

  I think he said he reset it.

• 3:14:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, he goes, "I said it."

• 3:14:56Speaker 01

  I said it.

• 3:14:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but that's how crazy that punch was.

• 3:15:02Speaker 01

  Gotta take chances.

• 3:15:03Speaker 03

  That's great coaching.

• 3:15:04Speaker 01

  Push that. Push that. All or nothing. Go out on your shield. That's, that's the only thing you can tell him.

• 3:15:10Speaker 03

  Hey, listen, I know he's a 220-pound, South African, world-class fighter. Take chances, get crazy.

• 3:15:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, get crazy.

• 3:15:16Speaker 03

  Good luck. Oh, hey, before you go out there, you got a broken nose. Have fun.

• 3:15:19Joe Rogan?

  He reset it.

• 3:15:21Speaker 03

  He's probably had his nose broken in many fights.

• 3:15:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. He keeps touching it, though, which is not good. It might be like moving around. He might feel, feel the bones moving around.

• 3:15:31Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 3:15:32Speaker 03

  I'm DDP, I'm shooting some takedowns here.

• 3:15:36Speaker 01

  That's exhausting, too, and he can't hold him down, so.

• 3:15:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, true.

• 3:15:40Speaker 01

  You know, he might say, "Fuck it."

• 3:15:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:15:41Speaker 01

  This is working.

• 3:15:43Joe Rogan?

  John's gotta really hit the gas. He's gotta really hit the gas.

• 3:15:46Speaker 03

  Let everything out here.

• 3:15:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's gotta push it.

• 3:15:49Speaker 01

  Throw, even if the wide punches, just throw.

• 3:15:51Joe Rogan?

  But he's so responsible defensively, it's hard for him to just enter when he knows he's open.

• 3:15:56Speaker 03

  I, I know the fanbase is gonna hate on DDP because they're gonna say it's not exciting, dude, he's dominated.

• 3:16:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, this is exciting as fuck, man.

• 3:16:03Speaker 03

  It's been a one-sided show.

• 3:16:04Joe Rogan?

  This is exciting as fuck. The fans that don't like this are not fans. They're just, people want blood.

• 3:16:12Speaker 02

  Technical.

• 3:16:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a good fight, man. It's like his strategy is so smart. He chops at the legs constantly. He constantly does that switch kick to the body and then to the head.

• 3:16:26Joe Rogan?

  He's landed the bigger shots for sure. There's another one. Bigger shots.

• 3:16:30Speaker 02

  Pressing the action.

• 3:16:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and he's not letting Shawn set up. Like Shawn always wants to move forward and set up and he's just constantly chop at the leg.

• 3:16:39Speaker 03

  Do you know if Hamzah's cage side? Cause I'm sure he'd jump in the ring, cause that's next for sure.

• 3:16:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's next. Yeah, that's next. Another spin, two spins in a row.

• 3:16:48Speaker 02

  I'm really excited about that.

• 3:16:49Speaker 01

  Oh, the Hamzah, that'd be wild, man. He's not changing the way he fucking fights.

• 3:16:53Joe Rogan?

  No. And, I mean, can Drakis stop that takedown?

• 3:16:56Speaker 03

  Can Hamzah fuck around in the third, fourth, fifth round?

• 3:16:59Joe Rogan?

  Right, cause this guy can.

• 3:17:01Speaker 03

  It's so compelling, yeah.

• 3:17:02Joe Rogan?

  This guy's so fucking game. I mean, he's always there in the fight.

• 3:17:05Speaker 01

  I was impressed with Whitaker keeping his calm until he got his face crushed. I'm like, look, he's keeping his calm.

• 3:17:12Speaker 03

  And then he has his whole teeth broken.

• 3:17:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's rough, man.

• 3:17:14Joe Rogan?

  Apparently he had a weak jaw anyway, like that area. He'd broken it a few times.

• 3:17:19Speaker 03

  I guess.

• 3:17:19Joe Rogan?

  No, I thought it was an injury.

• 3:17:20Speaker 03

  His teeth were fucked up.

• 3:17:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 3:17:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:17:22Joe Rogan?

  He was born?

• 3:17:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, he was born, something with his two, his bottom teeth.

• 3:17:25Joe Rogan?

  So he's had a few of them replaced before. Hopefully they did a good job this time.

• 3:17:28Speaker 01

  He's got a new grill now.

• 3:17:29Joe Rogan?

  Screwed him in deep.

• 3:17:32Joe Rogan?

  Alright, Shawn does not have much here.

• 3:17:33Speaker 01

  He's not showing anything that can end the fight.

• 3:17:36Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he's really gotta open up, but he doesn't wanna get KO'd.

• 3:17:39Speaker 03

  It's tough with that broken nose.

• 3:17:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I mean, this is how he fights, right? He fights responsible. He's not gonna like go reckless.

• 3:17:45Speaker 03

  No, it's just not in his...

• 3:17:47Joe Rogan?

  No, his whole DNA, oh, he tried for a guillotine.

• 3:17:50Speaker 01

  Imagine he got a fucking guillotine there?

• 3:17:51Speaker 03

  That'd be hilarious.

• 3:17:52Speaker 01

  That would be good.

• 3:17:52Joe Rogan?

  He's just not in his DNA.

• 3:17:56Joe Rogan?

  Shawn's got an underrated ground game.

• 3:17:57Speaker 03

  Is he a black? I don't think he's a black belt, is he?

• 3:17:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's a black belt. Yes, yes he is.

• 3:18:01Speaker 03

  From who?

• 3:18:01Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 3:18:06Speaker 01

  Man, it's just, this is the way it's gonna go, though.

• 3:18:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:18:10Speaker 01

  You know, you gotta realize, you're not...

• 3:18:12Joe Rogan?

  Also, it's like this is the last round, 2:15 to go, and this has been most of the fight like this.

• 3:18:18Speaker 01

  That's it, just make a decision, just throw.

• 3:18:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and you can't wait, cause you wanna try to take this guy out. Like, you gotta get this guy... But the thing is, like, he just hit him again on that nose.

• 3:18:29Speaker 01

  I know, and he's feeling it, man. It's gotta suck.

• 3:18:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it sucks. Look, you hit it again, it's fucking pouring blood. And now he's only breathing out of his mouth, so he's got his mouth open.

• 3:18:39Speaker 03

  It affects your cardio like a motherfucker.

• 3:18:41Joe Rogan?

  Oh, took that kick to the body, that was a hard kick.

• 3:18:45Speaker 01

  Drakis is just on him, man.

• 3:18:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:18:50Speaker 02

  Well. Hands up.

• 3:18:57Speaker 03

  Crazy fight.

• 3:18:58Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:18:59Speaker 03

  Kick to the body again.

• 3:19:02Speaker 03

  And then as soon as Tron wants to get something going, out of range, reset.

• 3:19:07Speaker 01

  Now, it's like you're already like fucked up, so you might as well just fucking just throw.

• 3:19:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's like, it's so hard for him to just open up and put himself in danger.

• 3:19:18Joe Rogan?

  It's not in his nature.

• 3:19:19Speaker 03

  And he's got a fucked up nose.

• 3:19:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, listen, it's always easier when they sit and I get it, but.

• 3:19:23Speaker 03

  No, it's way easier when you're fighting.

• 3:19:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 3:19:26Speaker 03

  You're wrong. Oh, head kick.

• 3:19:29Speaker 01

  He got a minute left, though, to make something happen.

• 3:19:31Speaker 03

  You got it, yeah, you gotta go.

• 3:19:32Speaker 01

  You know, or else we're all fucked up.

• 3:19:33Speaker 03

  Like if this was flipped and you tell DDP, hey, you gotta get him out of there, he's coming out like a fucking South African great white, you know?

• 3:19:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:19:42Speaker 03

  Because that's in his nature.

• 3:19:43Speaker 01

  You gotta throw caution to the wind now, man, to catch your nature or not.

• 3:19:48Joe Rogan?

  Forty seconds. Oh, another kick to the body.

• 3:19:51Speaker 03

  He just outclassed Strickland.

• 3:19:55Joe Rogan?

  I mean, Strickland needs something real big. Thirty seconds to go.

• 3:20:00Speaker 03

  Dude, this fight's over unless Francis.

• 3:20:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right hand, nice.

• 3:20:03Speaker 03

  Unless he tags in Francis and God.

• 3:20:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, jab.

• 3:20:06Speaker 03

  Ten seconds left.

• 3:20:07Speaker 02

  Even then, even then.

• 3:20:08Speaker 03

  Oh, no, Francis.

• 3:20:09Joe Rogan?

  I would have loved to have seen Alex at middleweight against DDP. That would have been very interesting.

• 3:20:15Speaker 03

  Alex and, so he's gonna fight Hamzat, then you get Alex at 205. That's the fight.

• 3:20:21Speaker 03

  And then DDP's, DDP's not become a superstar off this fight, but he beats Hamzat, now we're cooking with gas.

• 3:20:30Speaker 03

  That was an ass weapon.

• 3:20:32Speaker 01

  Nah, who knows?

• 3:20:33Speaker 03

  Technical ass weapon.

• 3:20:34Speaker 01

  I wonder if there's more to it. I wonder if there was something up with him.

• 3:20:36Joe Rogan?

  Something, it didn't look like the normal Strickland, right?

• 3:20:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:20:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, but DDP fought real well, man.

• 3:20:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm not taking it away from him.

• 3:20:43Speaker 03

  But Strickland didn't have that gas he usually had.

• 3:20:45Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Well, he might have had staff.

• 3:20:48Speaker 02

  Something.

• 3:20:48Joe Rogan?

  He might have had staff.

• 3:20:49Speaker 01

  Maybe, we never know, you know, but shit.

• 3:20:52Speaker 03

  You're wrong on that one.

• 3:20:53Speaker 02

  I was wrong on that one, buddy.

• 3:20:54Joe Rogan?

  Rough night for America.

• 3:20:55Speaker 02

  A smart Monday was on DDP, but I have to go with Sean.

• 3:20:57Speaker 01

  Is it Hamzat versus Drakis next?

• 3:20:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:21:00Joe Rogan?

  Because even in the press conference, DDP goes, I wish I was fighting Hamzat this weekend, but this'll do.

• 3:21:05Speaker 01

  Did we ever see him fight a really good grappler?

• 3:21:08Speaker 02

  Hamzat?

• 3:21:09Speaker 01

  No, not Hamzat.

• 3:21:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no. No, we haven't seen DDP fight anybody that level. But Hamza's the highest level in the sport.

• 3:21:18Speaker 01

  But even wrestlers, I don't remember seeing him, who's he fought that's really looking to put him down? We never seen him off his back.

• 3:21:27Joe Rogan?

  Boom. It was that big right hand that changed everything. There's a nice elbow, a spinning elbow. This one right here, boom!

• 3:21:34Speaker 02

  That was the fuck that one.

• 3:21:35Speaker 01

  That was the game changer.

• 3:21:35Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that, look at his eyes.

• 3:21:37Speaker 01

  That changed the whole fight.

• 3:21:39Joe Rogan?

  Rolled his head back, son.

• 3:21:40Speaker 01

  Strickland was never the same after that broke out.

• 3:21:42Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking rough, man. Such a smart strategy, Matt. There's that high kick to the face.

• 3:21:48Speaker 02

  But he's, he's still very good at taking, you know, getting hit.

• 3:21:52Speaker 01

  And he, he gave him a lot to look at there.

• 3:21:54Joe Rogan?

  What are you saying?

• 3:21:55Speaker 02

  He didn't take as much damage, but that nose is a problem.

• 3:21:57Joe Rogan?

  Look at his fucking face.

• 3:21:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that one.

• 3:21:59Joe Rogan?

  You mean Sean didn't take as much damage?

• 3:22:00Speaker 02

  No, he took damage.

• 3:22:01Joe Rogan?

  He got hit more in this fight than I think any fight.

• 3:22:03Speaker 02

  Right, any fight.

• 3:22:04Joe Rogan?

  Other than in a par-er fight.

• 3:22:05Speaker 02

  He's able, he's still able to kinda like, it was one big punch that fucked things up.

• 3:22:09Joe Rogan?

  He got beat up.

• 3:22:11Speaker 01

  He probably had his nose shattered.

• 3:22:13Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he got beat up.

• 3:22:14Speaker 01

  He got fucked up.

• 3:22:14Joe Rogan?

  He got beat up.

• 3:22:15Speaker 02

  One good shot to his face, you know.

• 3:22:18Speaker 02

  It's fucked up, dude.

• 3:22:19Speaker 01

  I'll tell you, Drake is, looks great.

• 3:22:21Speaker 02

  What kind of, what kind of, uh, he's got a, that's an operation, right? I mean, he's gotta now get it all fucking set.

• 3:22:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, clear, you know, his decision.

• 3:22:30Speaker 01

  So they probably gave Strickland the fourth round.

• 3:22:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yep. Drake is too pussy, ladies and gentlemen.

• 3:22:38Speaker 01

  He's a problem, man.

• 3:22:39Joe Rogan?

  He's wild, man.

• 3:22:40Speaker 01

  A tough puzzle to figure out.

• 3:22:41Joe Rogan?

  He's a tough puzzle. He's a tough puzzle to figure out.

• 3:22:46Joe Rogan?

  Very tough fight to figure out. Big fucker for 185, too. That's a big fucker.

• 3:22:52Speaker 01

  I wanna see that fight, though.

• 3:22:54Joe Rogan?

  Man, he did a fucking great job of setting up, throwing that low kick, switch kick to the body, kept that pace up for the entire five.

• 3:23:17Joe Rogan?

  Crank that shit up. I'm gonna hear what he says.

• 3:23:40Speaker 01

  Nice guy, this guy.

• 3:23:42Speaker 02

  Classy, he's a class act.

• 3:23:43Speaker 01

  Classy.

• 3:23:43Speaker 02

  Class act.

• 3:23:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:24:11Speaker 05

  And I was willing to give that. I tried to force him to make it a wrestling fight and then I can engage. I got that takedown, I didn't plan it, but it was there. I took it. And since I made the Achilles quote of making facts, I said, "There are no facts between lions and men." This is another one from Achilles. And since he's standing across the axilla, the optagon, "Is there no one else?"

• 3:24:38Joe Rogan?

  Talking to Hamzat.

• 3:24:42Speaker 01

  Oh wow.

• 3:24:43Joe Rogan?

  Oooh.

• 3:24:48Speaker 02

  It's gonna be a different game.

• 3:24:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, that's a night night when you get touched game.

• 3:24:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a very different game.

• 3:24:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, C is using fucking wrestling then.

• 3:25:04Joe Rogan?

  Probably get tased. He always said his coach tases him. They tase him. They tase him and sure when they do something wrong, they tase him. Really? Oh yeah, his coach has one of those fucking police things. Yeah.

• 3:25:16Speaker 01

  Get arrested in America.

• 3:25:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, bro. He just said he'll probably get tased.

• 3:25:26Speaker 01

  That fight wasn't close, fellas.

• 3:25:28Joe Rogan?

  Nope.

• 3:25:29Speaker 02

  Fight wasn't close.

• 3:25:30Joe Rogan?

  He keeps getting better.

• 3:25:31Speaker 01

  He's got his endurance, he can't even stop talking, look at this guy.

• 3:25:36Joe Rogan?

  I want to hear what Shawn has to say.

• 3:25:39Speaker 03

  Me too.

• 3:25:40Joe Rogan?

  I hope he doesn't bring up the staff. You can't, right?

• 3:25:43Speaker 01

  I hate when fighters do that. I hate when fighters do that. That's when they say "too soon."

• 3:25:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, talk about that tomorrow. Maybe, maybe DC asks him, I would definitely ask him. "Was that staff? Were you on antibiotics?" That would have been probably my first questions.

• 3:25:58Speaker 03

  If you ask it, it's fine, if he's like, "Yeah, I'll do some staff."

• 3:26:00Joe Rogan?

  I would've said, "Was there anything surprising about this fight?"

• 3:26:02Speaker 03

  But I'd go, "Dealing with staff, but it's not the reason I lost."

• 3:26:05Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 3:26:06Speaker 03

  All credit to DDP.

• 3:26:07Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:26:07Speaker 03

  Let the fans talk.

• 3:26:08Joe Rogan?

  But is that staff?

• 3:26:51Speaker 01

  Alright.

• 3:26:56Joe Rogan?

  Well.

• 3:26:59Joe Rogan?

  It's a good night, fellas.

• 3:27:00Speaker 01

  Good night.

• 3:27:00Speaker 02

  Good night.

• 3:27:01Speaker 01

  It's a good night. I had a good time.

• 3:27:02Speaker 02

  Well, let's start, are you giving him, teaching a jujitsu class now, or are we gonna wait a little bit?

• 3:27:06Speaker 01

  I do have maps.

• 3:27:07Speaker 02

  I need to stretch a little bit.

• 3:27:09Speaker 01

  Oh, Brian.

• 3:27:10Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 3:27:11Speaker 01

  Oh, man, good times.

• 3:27:13Speaker 02

  That was fun.

• 3:27:14Speaker 01

  Man, thanks for having me.

• 3:27:15Speaker 03

  Did you feel a little down, a little down when Shawn got beat up?

• 3:27:18Joe Rogan?

  Uh...

• 3:27:19Speaker 03

  Everybody here was kinda rooting for him. I thought it'd be more competitive.

• 3:27:21Joe Rogan?

  Very impressive.

• 3:27:22Speaker 03

  He, he, he's not gonna beat that guy.

• 3:27:24Speaker 01

  Jimmy Knowitton beat me in the picks, that little fucker.

• 3:27:27Speaker 02

  Did he?

• 3:27:27Speaker 01

  I think he picked both Drakis and...

• 3:27:30Joe Rogan?

  But now it's crazy, it's like, I thought Robert Whittaker was gonna give him problems with that style. I really did. I thought Robert Whittaker with his leaping in style, and he's like, very light on his feet, fast as shit. I thought he was gonna give him problems, and DDP shut that shit down, and then...

• 3:27:44Speaker 01

  Fucked him up.

• 3:27:45Joe Rogan?

  Caught him with that right hook.

• 3:27:47Speaker 03

  I see, I would give DDP the advantage over Hamzah right now.

• 3:27:51Joe Rogan?

  It's hard to say because we don't know what happened.

• 3:27:53Speaker 03

  There's suddenly question marks, we don't know.

• 3:27:55Joe Rogan?

  Hamzah just shoots from like fifteen feet away and gets a hold of your leg so quick.

• 3:28:00Speaker 03

  He didn't do that to Kamaru Usman, didn't do it to Gilbert Burns. We go in the third, fourth and fifth.

• 3:28:04Speaker 02

  He gave Usman for the first three rounds a nightmare. He was gassed out.

• 3:28:08Speaker 03

  But he couldn't finish him. That's the older Usman. That's not a vintage Usman.

• 3:28:12Joe Rogan?

  Who was in their prime?

• 3:28:13Speaker 02

  He was taking him down decisively.

• 3:28:15Joe Rogan?

  Who was Hamzah supposed to fight? That was a last minute replacement was Usman.

• 3:28:19Speaker 03

  He is. And then they put in, and then they put in Kevin Holland.

• 3:28:23Speaker 01

  That would have been horrible.

• 3:28:25Joe Rogan?

  UFC was like, we're getting backlash. We're getting some backlash here. Let's Kevin you down. He's like, I guess.

• 3:28:31Speaker 03

  That would have been crazy.

• 3:28:31Speaker 01

  Styles make fights and you've never seen Drake's fight of a good wrestler and Hamzah's one of the best.

• 3:28:38Joe Rogan?

  And you gotta think his endurance is probably gonna be better at eighty-five than it was at seventy because of the cut.

• 3:28:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:28:44Joe Rogan?

  For Hamzah. Eighty-five is really where he should have been all along.

• 3:28:47Speaker 03

  But again, he gassed out against Usman. That was at eighty-five.

• 3:28:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, Usman's a world champion, you know, and the third round Usman did what a world champion does. He rallied. And then Usman's fucking dangerous standing up.

• 3:28:58Speaker 03

  He's still landing some good shots.

• 3:29:00Joe Rogan?

  Yep, and he's bigger.

• 3:29:01Speaker 01

  And you look at Gilbert too. Gilbert weathered the storm and then he gave him hell.

• 3:29:06Joe Rogan?

  Dana White confirms Hamzah Shami was next. Yeah.

• 3:29:09Speaker 01

  That's fun.

• 3:29:11Joe Rogan?

  I wonder where that is. That's gotta be Vegas, right?

• 3:29:15Speaker 03

  Hamzah? No, that's gonna be in Saudi Arabia.

• 3:29:17Joe Rogan?

  You think so? I think he's got a UAE passport now. I think he gets into America.

• 3:29:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think he gets into America now. I mean, it's not like, like Sharer Bullet, probably never gonna fight in America. You can't let a one-eyed fighter. Apparently the UAE is having a problem with it too.

• 3:29:38Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 3:29:39Joe Rogan?

  United Arab Emirates. Like when he fights in Abu Dhabi, they're like, hey, you only got one eye. It's kinda crazy.

• 3:29:45Speaker 03

  But they still let him do it.

• 3:29:47Joe Rogan?

  They let him do it in Saudi Arabia, you know?

• 3:29:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, true. He's the captain now.

• 3:29:52Speaker 02

  I'm very curious about that John Combs out fight.

• 3:29:55Joe Rogan?

  What a fight they can make. Puzzle MVP is. What a puzzle.

• 3:29:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:29:58Joe Rogan?

  I mean, Shao Bo just couldn't do nothing to him. But even on the feed, Ian Gary was getting lit up too.

• 3:30:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, Ian Gary had to wrestle.

• 3:30:03Joe Rogan?

  He just had to wrestle.

• 3:30:04Speaker 03

  Ian Gary impressed me even with his loss with, uh...

• 3:30:07Speaker 02

  Shavkat.

• 3:30:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:30:09Speaker 03

  He was the closest to ending it.

• 3:30:10Joe Rogan?

  Great, yup.

• 3:30:11Speaker 03

  And he's well-rounded.

• 3:30:12Joe Rogan?

  Great fight.

• 3:30:13Speaker 03

  Oh, Ian Gary would be a champion.

• 3:30:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:30:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:30:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, he is champion.

• 3:30:16Joe Rogan?

  And you need a fight like that, a super close fight, I mean... You know the biggest disappointment this year? The Armand Sorokin pulling out the day of the fight.

• 3:30:24Speaker 03

  That. What the fuck happened there?

• 3:30:26Joe Rogan?

  Backseated up. Weight cut. I mean, you gotta think, how much is...

• 3:30:29Speaker 03

  I think weight cut.

• 3:30:30Joe Rogan?

  How much has that guy cut in? To get to 55?

• 3:30:32Speaker 03

  And how juicy was... I'm not saying he's on Peds. I'm saying juicy like how much muscle did he put on?

• 3:30:37Joe Rogan?

  A lot.

• 3:30:38Speaker 03

  And then he cut all that weight.

• 3:30:39Speaker 02

  He's 5'7", right? He's really short?

• 3:30:41Joe Rogan?

  He's probably 5'8" and he probably walks around 190.

• 3:30:44Speaker 03

  Jacked.

• 3:30:44Joe Rogan?

  I mean, he's thick. You see him off-season, he's fucking thick.

• 3:30:47Speaker 03

  And you're not getting that fight, Dino's like, he's back in the line now. You're like, there's no way that's a back issue.

• 3:30:53Speaker 02

  You think it's a weight issue?

• 3:30:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that he said something is a way of doing it.

• 3:30:56Joe Rogan?

  He's big. Number one lightweight, Armand Sorokin and Michael Chandler are negotiating for a fight in Miami. Oh, shit.

• 3:31:02Speaker 03

  It's a tough fight for you.

• 3:31:03Joe Rogan?

  He resumed training, is nearly 100% after a back injury forced him out of the fight. I think it's just the weight. I think you cut that much weight, your muscles just cramped the fuck up and he couldn't move.

• 3:31:13Speaker 03

  That's what was happening at KBE, remember? He missed a lot, Tony Ferguson, he kept getting fucked up with his kidneys and all the weight cut.

• 3:31:19Joe Rogan?

  Just think about how much weight that is that you're draining out of your body. Like, Sorokin's probably getting at least 25 jugs of water out of his body. 25 one-pound jugs of water.

• 3:31:30Speaker 03

  And he's not a big guy.

• 3:31:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, think about like a 16-ounce, like a Pepsi. He's getting 25 of those out of his muscles. That's crazy.

• 3:31:39Speaker 03

  What he looks around at, man?

• 3:31:41Joe Rogan?

  I think he's gotta be 180. He looks big, man. He's so... And do you see how fucking mobile that guy is? When he's doing all his different, like, mobility exercises and shit, he's so flexible.

• 3:31:54Speaker 03

  Shit.

• 3:31:54Joe Rogan?

  I don't think so. I think it's all the weight.

• 3:31:56Speaker 03

  I think it's a weight cut issue.

• 3:31:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:31:58Speaker 01

  One fifty-five was hard for me to get to too.

• 3:32:01Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it the worst part of the sport? Is the, the weight cut, that they do that twenty-four hours before a cage fight? It's so crazy.

• 3:32:07Speaker 01

  Ah shit man, well now there's guys fucking at one seventy that are like six foot five. I would have been really up today. They would have been holding my head out.

• 3:32:16Joe Rogan?

  Who's that guy that, uh, Joaquin Buckley beat? He had to take him down. He was, he was beating him up on top. Big fucking tall dude who was.

• 3:32:25Speaker 03

  Huge.

• 3:32:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. It was a dangerous fight for Joaquin at once. He's guys big for one seventy, like real tall.

• 3:32:31Speaker 03

  Super tall. It looked awkward.

• 3:32:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, tall and long.

• 3:32:34Speaker 02

  I didn't know they had a mouthpiece.

• 3:32:36Joe Rogan?

  That guy. Rizboya.

• 3:32:38Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, that's right.

• 3:32:39Joe Rogan?

  That guy's good dude. I'm telling you Buckley at one, six foot five. Six foot five, one seventy.

• 3:32:46Speaker 01

  No, I, I had to belt it that way. I'm five six. What would that look like?

• 3:32:49Joe Rogan?

  Buckley's probably five ten. That's crazy. Isn't that crazy? Six five.

• 3:32:54Speaker 01

  Man, what are you doing? Good eighty-five. You're flipping around. It's my height.

• 3:32:56Speaker 02

  Got a big head.

• 3:32:58Joe Rogan?

  Buckley did a fucking amazing job in that fight. How did he lose that fight? Was it a decision? Or did he?

• 3:33:04Speaker 02

  Do you know what?

• 3:33:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:33:05Speaker 02

  Do you ever know?

• 3:33:05Joe Rogan?

  Decision unanimous.

• 3:33:06Speaker 02

  Do you ever find out why Zabit just stopped fighting? He was so good.

• 3:33:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't know, man. He was so good.

• 3:33:11Speaker 02

  God, he was good.

• 3:33:11Joe Rogan?

  He looked like a world champion.

• 3:33:13Speaker 02

  And but he became a doctor or something, right? Maybe he decided fuck it.

• 3:33:15Joe Rogan?

  I think he did become a doctor.

• 3:33:17Speaker 03

  Is he a doctor? Is he a nurse? He's like a Gaylord fucker.

• 3:33:20Joe Rogan?

  Hey.

• 3:33:20Speaker 02

  No, I think he's a doctor.

• 3:33:21Speaker 03

  I think he's a nurse. He's not a transgender.

• 3:33:23Joe Rogan?

  Nurse, nurse have to go through some.

• 3:33:25Speaker 03

  Like a real doctor.

• 3:33:26Speaker 02

  Did he fight at forty-five? He was like six two or something or?

• 3:33:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was tall as fuck.

• 3:33:30Speaker 03

  Mark Henry says the best fighter he's ever seen.

• 3:33:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he said he's a hundred, a hundred percent world champion.

• 3:33:35Speaker 03

  In the training, he was like, it's wild, man. He's a fuck out of a jail.

• 3:33:37Speaker 01

  He had a, he had a good spar with Hen, with, uh, with Henzo, with fucking Aljo at Longos.

• 3:33:41Speaker 02

  Really?

• 3:33:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:33:43Joe Rogan?

  And he throws wild shit, man.

• 3:33:44Speaker 01

  He was, he was, he was, that guy was good.

• 3:33:46Speaker 02

  He had it all. Wrestling, striking, everything, man.

• 3:33:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, everything. Super technical.

• 3:33:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:33:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:33:52Speaker 01

  No, he's Dr. Zabit. Oh, Dr. Zabit.

• 3:33:56Speaker 02

  Maybe he decided, this is not for me, fuck it, you know?

• 3:33:58Speaker 03

  He's really a smart guy.

• 3:34:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:34:00Speaker 03

  He's gonna be a doctor.

• 3:34:01Speaker 01

  Other options.

• 3:34:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:34:02Speaker 02

  I mean, how's it end?

• 3:34:03Joe Rogan?

  Also, if you're a doctor, you really know what's going on with your brain.

• 3:34:07Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 3:34:07Joe Rogan?

  And you keep sparring.

• 3:34:08Speaker 02

  I kept thinking about that. The more we learn. I keep looking at that shit and the more we learn, I'm just like. Ten, five years from now, when you have some kind of an AI mouthpiece and they're just able to fucking correlate, how much damage?

• 3:34:20Joe Rogan?

  When is the comeback? Zabeat, oh, he, he. No, he always does this.

• 3:34:24Speaker 01

  No, he just stays in shape.

• 3:34:26Joe Rogan?

  Really? Are you sure?

• 3:34:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:34:27Joe Rogan?

  Break silence with a impressive training clip. Let's see what his training clip looks like. Let's see. Oh.

• 3:34:36Joe Rogan?

  Throwing a lot of kicks. He could just be just being in shape, man.

• 3:34:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably.

• 3:34:42Joe Rogan?

  Who knows?

• 3:34:42Speaker 01

  Grab that beard and do a drop.

• 3:34:43Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Maybe he's fucking, it looks like he's fucking training again.

• 3:34:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, he does. Look at it.

• 3:34:47Joe Rogan?

  Man, I hope he comes back, dude. He was wild to watch.

• 3:34:51Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 3:34:52Joe Rogan?

  He was wild. Did he ever lose? Not in the UFC. I don't know if he had any defeats in his career.

• 3:34:57Speaker 02

  Amazing.

• 3:34:58Joe Rogan?

  Did Zabeat have any defeats in his career, young Jamie?

• 3:35:00Speaker 02

  Phenomenal.

• 3:35:03Joe Rogan?

  Look at Dean Thomas with the plaid shirt on.

• 3:35:05Speaker 01

  Oh dude, every time you look, you see Dean Thomas everywhere.

• 3:35:08Joe Rogan?

  He's great. He's always, he's got the sharpest clothes when he's at the UFC. Like sometimes we have to comment on his clothes, like.

• 3:35:14Speaker 01

  He loves, he loves to be busy, that guy.

• 3:35:17Joe Rogan?

  What did Zabeat? Uh, yeah, early in his career at the UFC. Oh, early in his career.

• 3:35:20Speaker 02

  But he kinda went out on top.

• 3:35:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, who knows? He might not have stopped. He might not have stopped.

• 3:35:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was supposed to be, it was him and Tatian Osorio, it was supposed to be the one F.

• 3:35:30Joe Rogan?

  Twenty nineteen was his last fight. That's crazy. That's six years ago.

• 3:35:33Speaker 02

  Long time ago.

• 3:35:34Joe Rogan?

  That's six fucking years ago.

• 3:35:36Speaker 01

  He's not coming back. If he did, it wouldn't be good.

• 3:35:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. At what point in time do you say Connor's never coming back? Is it now? Right now?

• 3:35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:35:44Joe Rogan?

  You see him like, wow.

• 3:35:45Speaker 01

  Dude, he's got more money than God. He loves the attention. So, I mean, but are you gonna go through a camp and go fight in the fucking cage just for attention?

• 3:35:54Joe Rogan?

  Also, what's going on with that left leg?

• 3:35:57Speaker 01

  Oh shit. I mean, Chris Ford again.

• 3:35:59Joe Rogan?

  Uh, he did. Yeah, he did.

• 3:36:01Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 3:36:02Joe Rogan?

  And late in his career. Too. Late in his career.

• 3:36:05Speaker 02

  I don't think anybody's ever come back from that injury.

• 3:36:06Speaker 01

  He looks healthy though. I mean, Connor, I mean, he looks healthy. He just looks like he's out of his fucking mind.

• 3:36:11Speaker 02

  I'm just saying that, that injury is really.

• 3:36:13Joe Rogan?

  It's the worst. It's the worst.

• 3:36:14Speaker 02

  I don't know if anybody's ever come back and been the same though.

• 3:36:16Joe Rogan?

  I think Connor would fight if he wasn't getting the attention from BKFC and doing all that wild shit. If that went away, then he'd have. A PFL heavyweight that snapped his shin and came back and fought well. I think, but he did it when he was younger.

• 3:36:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:36:29Speaker 01

  I seen that before it was in MMA. I seen it in kickboxing and it always just made me like, ugh, for worse.

• 3:36:35Joe Rogan?

  You ever see uh Gokhan Saki and Tyrone Spong? That one? No.

• 3:36:39Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say yes, cuz you wanna show it.

• 3:36:41Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no.

• 3:36:43Joe Rogan?

  Tyrone Spong just hit him right below the knee and it just snapped like a twig, just like Chris.

• 3:36:48Speaker 01

  Dude, that's.

• 3:36:49Joe Rogan?

  Just like Anderson.

• 3:36:50Speaker 01

  I remember Longo telling me, he goes.

• 3:36:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, look at Sean's nose. Oh, my goodness.

• 3:36:54Speaker 01

  Longo was telling me that he was, Chris was killing the pads that they, on the back before they went out. He's like, he was legs. He's a hard kick, Chris.

• 3:37:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, the sound.

• 3:37:04Speaker 02

  Dude, my friend, my friend was at uh, my friend was at uh, fucking uh, LAX. And a woman with her husband stepped off and a fucking giant, my fucking truck, one of those uh, what, black Uber X? Um, escalated, ran over her foot, right? Now, watch, it got, she, she was a little heavy. So it hit her and she went like that and it got her, so my buddy, strong guy, picked her up. And he goes, Brian, I go, what? He goes, her foot came off. I go, what? He goes, her foot came off? I go, what are you talking about? So she fainted in his arms and her foot was there. So he picked her fucking foot up.

• 3:37:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god, ripped off?

• 3:37:41Speaker 02

  And he, and he said, he put it in her lap. He goes, and he goes, he goes, you're gonna be okay, you're gonna be, he's talking the whole time. The guy turned out to be really wealthy and my friend thought he was gonna, they took him to the hospital and all that and I guess they saved her foot. Apparently, they saved her fucking foot.

• 3:37:53Joe Rogan?

  I guess.

• 3:37:54Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 3:37:55Speaker 02

  Cuz he kept in touch with him and he said her foot, they, I guess they saved her foot.

• 3:37:59Speaker 01

  What happened to that guy?

• 3:38:00Speaker 02

  Her foot came off.

• 3:38:01Joe Rogan?

  What about the nerves?

• 3:38:02Speaker 01

  Lorena Bobbitt, that cut his dick off.

• 3:38:04Speaker 02

  She didn't use her foot a lot.

• 3:38:05Speaker 01

  What happened to that? That guy ever get his dick rolling again?

• 3:38:08Joe Rogan?

  That guy started doing porn.

• 3:38:09Speaker 01

  I heard, Frankenweenie or something, right?

• 3:38:12Joe Rogan?

  It sewed it back on.

• 3:38:13Speaker 02

  But that is the fucking craziest thing.

• 3:38:15Speaker 01

  Imagine that, then he'll find his dick in a field.

• 3:38:17Speaker 02

  Hanging off, he goes, her foot.

• 3:38:19Joe Rogan?

  Fell off.

• 3:38:20Speaker 02

  She had, she had a long dress on, I guess.

• 3:38:22Speaker 01

  She was a big girl?

• 3:38:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, big girl.

• 3:38:24Joe Rogan?

  She had tankles?

• 3:38:24Speaker 02

  Big girl, yeah. But her foot fucking came off.

• 3:38:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 3:38:27Speaker 02

  It was under, it was like, it was on the ground.

• 3:38:30Speaker 01

  Hold on, is Dean Thomas wearing makeup?

• 3:38:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:38:32Speaker 01

  They just had a close up on him.

• 3:38:33Speaker 02

  Look at Gilbert.

• 3:38:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he looks like a girl.

• 3:38:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is Gilbert?

• 3:38:35Joe Rogan?

  They always force you to wear that makeup. I don't wear shit. They always try to get me with the powder.

• 3:38:39Speaker 02

  They don't want you to be oily, that's why.

• 3:38:40Joe Rogan?

  So what? Uh, to me, it was always so offensive to wear makeup while dudes' whole faces are hanging off.

• 3:38:47Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:38:47Joe Rogan?

  You know, imagine, imagine if you're stepping in there and I, I, Rainy Aldana, remember that fight? Went in the sphere where it was like a hatchet wound. Imagine if I had makeup on and I was interviewing her.

• 3:38:58Speaker 02

  You want to even touch me, that was the craziest thing. She looked, I've never seen a head like that.

• 3:39:02Joe Rogan?

  Rainy Aldana?

• 3:39:03Speaker 01

  No, you're thinking of, you wanna.

• 3:39:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, that was crazy.

• 3:39:06Speaker 01

  I felt bad, she was trying to cover it with a towel and stuff. She was like, no, you look fine.

• 3:39:11Speaker 02

  She's such a great.

• 3:39:11Speaker 01

  Oh, shit.

• 3:39:15Joe Rogan?

  In her prime, she was a monster.

• 3:39:16Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, she was a monster.

• 3:39:18Joe Rogan?

  That fucking division, man, that 115-pound women's division, woo, there's some banger fights in that division.

• 3:39:23Speaker 02

  Unbelievable.

• 3:39:24Joe Rogan?

  Maybe the best division in the sport for women.

• 3:39:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:39:26Joe Rogan?

  You know, in terms of like wild fights?

• 3:39:28Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 3:39:29Joe Rogan?

  Not a lot, not, not much competes with that.

• 3:39:32Speaker 01

  That's. What made you bring up Fiona Davis, by the way? You just watched that the other day?

• 3:39:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, uh, my friend Jake was talking to me about it and then I watched it. He said, dude, she just ran over Mackenzie Dern. I was like, really? Like, that's impressive. And then I watched it last night on YouTube.

• 3:39:45Speaker 01

  Oh, Jiu-Jitsu's good. I had it down, she did a seminar at my place, too.

• 3:39:48Joe Rogan?

  How about that hip toss, too?

• 3:39:50Speaker 01

  Oh, it was beautiful.

• 3:39:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God, she has judo background, right?

• 3:39:52Speaker 01

  That's what it is. She has a judo background, too. But, uh, yeah, and, and she's, you know, I think Mackenzie's so good in Jiu-Jitsu that she thinks she could, not thinks, but she's good at squirming at us off and everything, but woo.

• 3:40:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:40:03Speaker 01

  She had that fuck, she locked her up tight.

• 3:40:05Joe Rogan?

  And that, that top pressure was nasty. Ooh, so technical, so good.

• 3:40:10Speaker 01

  She's got a very good Jiu-Jitsu background.

• 3:40:12Joe Rogan?

  It's like Jiu-Jitsu, like, as just a sport, as, you know, like, you look at the highest of highest level guys right now, it's so exciting. And, and now that, like, CGI, like Craig Jones Invitational's giving out a million bucks.

• 3:40:23Speaker 02

  The total twins are unbelievable.

• 3:40:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God, they're so good. That's one thing I really like about 1FC. You know, they had all those just straight-up grappling matches, like Mikey, remember Mikey? Mikey Matty, he tapped that dude's, ripped that dude's knee apart and he wouldn't tap. Remember that dude? He just kept ripping it apart and you, you know his knee's gone, it's gone. And he won't tap and it's just rip, crack, pop. And Mikey was like, it was disgusting. Like, why'd you make me do that to you?

• 3:40:50Speaker 03

  Now Mikey's signed with the UFC, right?

• 3:40:52Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 3:40:52Speaker 01

  Not for fighting.

• 3:40:53Joe Rogan?

  No, for, just for, uh, Fight Pass, those Fight Pass Invitationals, which is great. They're, they're doing that, it's great.

• 3:41:00Speaker 02

  His guard is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life.

• 3:41:03Speaker 01

  Mikey's good.

• 3:41:04Speaker 02

  I've never seen it like that.

• 3:41:05Speaker 01

  It's so funny, and there's so many tournaments now more than ever, but I still enjoy watching it used in MMA more than anything.

• 3:41:12Speaker 02

  Jiu Jitsu?

• 3:41:13Speaker 01

  Oh, fuck it. That's what I love. Yeah. I mean, a Damian Maia versus Ben Ashken fight.

• 3:41:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 3:41:19Speaker 01

  Jake Shields versus Damian Maia.

• 3:41:20Joe Rogan?

  You know one of the biggest travesties of all time?

• 3:41:22Speaker 01

  What's that?

• 3:41:22Joe Rogan?

  When they took Damian Maia off of Kamaru Usman's back.

• 3:41:25Speaker 01

  Oh, a hundred percent.

• 3:41:26Joe Rogan?

  Hundred percent.

• 3:41:27Speaker 01

  Oh, that, all that, that arm was just stopping him from taking a full, and, and you can't hold that forever.

• 3:41:32Joe Rogan?

  You can't hold that forever.

• 3:41:33Speaker 01

  They separated that. Oh, I mean, I stink about that.

• 3:41:35Joe Rogan?

  It was infuriating.

• 3:41:37Speaker 01

  He could have been a champion.

• 3:41:38Joe Rogan?

  It's so, you had Kamaru Usman, he had that left hook over the top early on the fight, dry, and he's basically taking his back. And Kamaru's in deep water. And Kamaru's only loss up until that point was his first fight, rear naked choke.

• 3:41:52Speaker 01

  Fuck. And it was timing the round and everything.

• 3:41:54Joe Rogan?

  And it's Damian Maia.

• 3:41:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:41:56Joe Rogan?

  Who's like one of the greatest stranglers of all time.

• 3:41:59Speaker 02

  He's gonna strangle you.

• 3:42:00Joe Rogan?

  Greatest.

• 3:42:01Speaker 02

  He's on your back, it's gonna happen.

• 3:42:01Joe Rogan?

  He was one of the greatest stranglers of all time. I mean, just phenomenal Jiu Jitsu.

• 3:42:06Speaker 01

  His fight versus Ben Ashken was fun, cause it was both, it was almost like a throwback where one guy's using more, cause standing up, they both kind of null up, they both didn't do too much, but one guy's using, uh, Ashakarami sweeps, Uma Plata reversals, pure Jiu Jitsu, and then you got Ben Ashken using all these, doing the big takedowns. So it was, it was just such a style versus style type fight, you know?

• 3:42:28Joe Rogan?

  Great fight.

• 3:42:29Speaker 02

  It gives you an idea, it gives you an appreciation for how good Gordon Ryan is. Like, all these amazing guys.

• 3:42:35Joe Rogan?

  So like, what are the big fights that are coming up next? Like, what do we got?

• 3:42:39Speaker 01

  Alex.

• 3:42:40Joe Rogan?

  So we don't know what's gonna happen at lightweight now. I hope, as crazy as it sounds, I hope Ilya goes up to 55. I really do.

• 3:42:48Speaker 01

  To fight Maka Jeff?

• 3:42:48Joe Rogan?

  Volkanovski, Diego Lopez, 45.

• 3:42:52Speaker 01

  I'll take that.

• 3:42:52Joe Rogan?

  Ilya goes up to 55. Fuck, I don't care if he only defended the title one time or didn't.

• 3:42:56Speaker 01

  Agree.

• 3:42:56Joe Rogan?

  Who cares?

• 3:42:57Speaker 02

  You want Ilya to fight, uh, Maka Jeff?

• 3:42:58Joe Rogan?

  Let's go. Let's fucking go.

• 3:43:02Speaker 03

  All those guys first like you just said.

• 3:43:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it'd be nice, but also who cares? Let's go, let's fucking go. If you want to make the big fight for July, you want to make that big fight in July, is it the Volkanovski rematch? I don't know. I think Volkanovski's, people want to probably see him win one. Or he gets KO'd by Islam in the first fight, he gets KO'd by Islam in the second fight.

• 3:43:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't see him fight up here.

• 3:43:23Joe Rogan?

  You want to see him, you want to see him fight. You know, well, he gets, excuse me, he gets beaten by Islam in the first fight, he gets KO'd in the second fight, and then he gets KO'd by Ilya. So two KO losses in a row in one decision, kind of, even though he's a legend, you kind of want to see him beat a contender. Maybe. And Diego Lopez needs one more win. Hate a rematch.

• 3:43:45Speaker 03

  No, I'll take it. It's not, it's like, must see TV. No one's asking for it.

• 3:43:50Joe Rogan?

  It's one of those ones where I hope Alex is 100% and I want to see it. But he shouldn't have fought him back quickly after getting KO'd by Islam. Three months, four months later.

• 3:44:00Speaker 03

  Took a shot.

• 3:44:01Joe Rogan?

  And so, he took a shot.

• 3:44:02Speaker 03

  So if you want to do a big July card, you would do, you could do that, Makachev.

• 3:44:06Joe Rogan?

  Hamzat versus Drakis.

• 3:44:08Speaker 03

  DDP, Jon Jones, and, uh, Aspinall. That would be the greatest card of all time.

• 3:44:15Joe Rogan?

  Can you imagine? Drakis, two guys go up, Drakis goes up, Ilya goes up. Drakis versus, but then again, look, Ankaliya is tough, man. That ain't a givey, that ain't a gimme, that's a tough fight.

• 3:44:27Speaker 02

  I mean, Ankaliya's wrestling is going to be a problem for Alex.

• 3:44:30Speaker 03

  But here's, he's not really a wrestler.

• 3:44:32Joe Rogan?

  Not really a wrestler, he's more of a striker. And he said he's gonna knock him out standing.

• 3:44:36Speaker 03

  Nah, that's what he says. Until he feels that fucking.

• 3:44:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, look at that. 110, 110, even fight. Dan Hook or Justin Cage, he's gonna be wild.

• 3:44:45Speaker 03

  That is gonna be wild.

• 3:44:46Joe Rogan?

  What is this? What day is this? Is March?

• 3:44:49Speaker 03

  Yes. March. Let me see what else is on that card?

• 3:44:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh my good. Mauricio Ruffi and King Green. Bro, Ruffi's nasty.

• 3:44:59Speaker 02

  He's like Connor.

• 3:45:00Joe Rogan?

  That guy's good.

• 3:45:01Speaker 01

  Ruffi is nasty.

• 3:45:01Joe Rogan?

  He's fucking good, man. That's a great fight. That's a great fucking fight. Nice. I like it.

• 3:45:08Speaker 01

  And that's another one that just falls short is that Alex Moreno.

• 3:45:12Joe Rogan?

  He's fucking good, man.

• 3:45:13Speaker 01

  He's fucking good. Sometimes he gets a couple of stumbles, but another guy that's, uh, he reminds me of Matthews a little bit where he's got the really good stand up and he, and he's got, I like his jujitsu a lot, too.

• 3:45:21Joe Rogan?

  Some good fight nights. Cannonier and Rodriguez, that's a good fight.

• 3:45:24Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 3:45:25Joe Rogan?

  I like that most of the time. Bro, Sahudo and Song Yedong is a tough fight for Sahudo. Song Yedong is fucking dangerous, man.

• 3:45:31Speaker 02

  I thought Sahudo was, so, I thought Sahudo was ready to retire.

• 3:45:34Joe Rogan?

  When is that? He was, but he can't. He wants to come back.

• 3:45:37Speaker 01

  He can't.

• 3:45:37Speaker 02

  So, wow.

• 3:45:38Joe Rogan?

  He's gotta get back.

• 3:45:38Speaker 01

  February 22nd.

• 3:45:39Joe Rogan?

  That fucking juice. Oh, that is, that is real soon.

• 3:45:43Speaker 02

  Brendan Allen.

• 3:45:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's a good card.

• 3:45:45Speaker 01

  That Gene Silva's nasty, too.

• 3:45:46Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 3:45:46Speaker 02

  Dominic Cruz is out. He retired.

• 3:45:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he ripped his shoulder apart.

• 3:45:50Speaker 02

  Poor Curtis Blades.

• 3:45:51Speaker 01

  Ah, that sucks for Dominic. He always had some problems with health, is.

• 3:45:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. Barbosa's still fighting. Still fighting.

• 3:45:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, man, he's fucking still good, too. That's just crazy. How about Ricky Simone, still in the heat?

• 3:46:05Joe Rogan?

  All right, let's wrap this up. Bring it home.

• 3:46:07Speaker 01

  Fun shit, man.

• 3:46:08Joe Rogan?

  Fun times. Matt Sarah, thank you very much for joining us.

• 3:46:10Speaker 01

  Thanks, man. I appreciate the invite, man.

• 3:46:13Joe Rogan?

  Always good to see you, my friend.

• 3:46:14Speaker 01

  Matt Sarah's channel on YouTube.

• 3:46:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, thank, I'm so glad you're doing a podcast.

• 3:46:17Speaker 01

  Dude, I'm having fun. All that shit you were goofing on me about.

• 3:46:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:46:21Speaker 01

  If you guys like that nerd shit, come to me.

• 3:46:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, baby.

• 3:46:24Speaker 01

  I'm your guy.

• 3:46:25Joe Rogan?

  I'm your guy. Yes, uh, Brendan Schaub, Tell Everybody, Drive Fast, All Gas.

• 3:46:29Speaker 01

  DriveFastAllGas.com. Find the kid.

• 3:46:31Speaker 02

  There it is. I'll be in Minnesota this week, this coming weekend, uh, House Comedy, and then I'm in, uh, Denny Improv next week.

• 3:46:37Joe Rogan?

  Let's go. All right, bye, everybody.

• 3:46:40Speaker 01

  Fun stuff, guys.