#2491 - Brian Simpson

Brian Simpson is a comedian, writer, host of the “Bottom of the Barrel” comedy show at The Comedy Mothership, and his own podcast, “BS with Brian Simpson.” His most recent special, “Live from The Comedy Mothership,” is streaming on Netflix.www.netflix.com/title/81684893www.youtube.com/@bswithbriansimpsonwww.briansimpsoncomedy.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Visit https://ketone.com/Rogan for 30% OFF, or find Ketone-IQ at Target nationwide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:12Joe Rogan?

  Do you gotta get new glasses?

• 0:14Speaker 01

  No, I just have a different pair for different stuff.

• 0:17Joe Rogan?

  Did they get stronger?

• 0:18Speaker 01

  No.

• 0:19Joe Rogan?

  No?

• 0:19Speaker 01

  I just have a...

• 0:21Joe Rogan?

  Did you always have glasses? Like, do you have an eyeball issue?

• 0:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got a stigmatism.

• 0:24Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 0:25Speaker 01

  But I, uh, but I got one, one for driving and one for my computer.

• 0:29Joe Rogan?

  I used to have to use, um, reading glasses.

• 0:32Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah?

• 0:33Joe Rogan?

  Then I started using red light, red light therapy, and, uh, I think that, uh, the first thing I started doing is taking, uh, this company Pure Encapsulation has this, um, it's called, uh, macular support. It's like a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs.

• 0:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 0:51Joe Rogan?

  I don't know how, but I explained it to Huberman, and he read it off to me, and he's like, "This makes sense." Uh, but then, um, the big one was red light. I started using red light therapy. I don't need glasses anymore.

• 1:02Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my gla- my eyes aren't perfect. Like, uh, in low light, they're not so good. Like, uh, in a dark restaurant, I have to use, like, the flashlight on my thing to read a menu, but I don't need glasses anymore.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  Oh, so I was, I've been wondering that. Is it that I'm getting older, or are they just using darker light in the restaurants?

• 1:18Joe Rogan?

  They definitely use dark light in restaurants. I don't, I mean, young people can still read it. Like, I've gone to restaurants with my kids, and they can read in the dark. I'm like, "You can read that?" Uh, I can't read it. But, um, but like, small print, like, on my phone, like, reading an email, I didn't used to be able to read it, and now I can read it perfectly.

• 1:36Speaker 01

  Oh, see, now, I'm, I'm hitting that age now where I gotta start switching.

• 1:40Joe Rogan?

  Switching glasses?

• 1:41Speaker 01

  For different, yeah. Here we go, here we go.

• 1:45Joe Rogan?

  Listen, dude, I'm just happy you're alive.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, I, you know, man, I've always-

• 1:52Joe Rogan?

  For people who don't know what we're talking about, you had a heart attack.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago.

• 1:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:57Speaker 01

  Super Bowl weekend.

• 1:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  In Atlanta.

• 2:00Joe Rogan?

  Phew.

• 2:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, out of nowhere. Well, was it really out of nowhere? Not really.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  You know, like, because that's all.

• 2:13Joe Rogan?

  It's not like you're a marathon runner.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Right, right, exactly. But I, but I was sitting there, you know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking, because I remember the doctor, because we, you know, we, we really are, like, we've set ourselves up, we, we kind of deal with trauma and not. I mean, you could argue about whether, how it's, whether it's healthy or not, but with, but our first go-to is humor.

• 2:35Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  And I remember the, the doctor getting upset with me. Like, the surgeon, the lady that was about to, she was about to put a stent. So, you know, I'm sitting there, and she was like, hey, something very serious just happened to you. You know?

• 2:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  Because I was just talking, you know, I was, but it was just how, I was just coping, you know?

• 2:53Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 2:54Speaker 01

  She was not happy about it.

• 2:57Joe Rogan?

  Did you tell her that's how I deal with things?

• 2:59Speaker 01

  No, I was already all drugged up and shit.

• 3:01Joe Rogan?

  Uh.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  Because it was one of them things where I think, like, you can't, they can't put you out completely. Like, it's, it's not that kind of anesthesia.

• 3:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  But they, but I think they need you to be conscious, kind of, in case something goes wrong.

• 3:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  But they, but whatever the fuck they put me on, I don't remember any of it.

• 3:18Joe Rogan?

  And you were joking around, and she was upset?

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, what, what happened was, the, the, when I got to the hospital, the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget his name, but he was like, hey, I'm Doug, and don't, don't worry about anything, I'm gonna be with you the whole time. You know, and then maybe 20 minutes later, the, you know, they, they wheeling me in, they drugging me up, and I'm like, hey, where the fuck is Doug?

• 3:43Speaker 01

  You know, and they're like, who's Doug? I was like, he's, he promised me that he wasn't gonna leave. And I was, obviously, I was just joking, I know, like, he was just saying that so I would calm down or whatever.

• 3:53Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 3:54Speaker 01

  I, I don't know why Doug thought he would be, bring me comfort. But I just, but I, I, I fake made a big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug. And she didn't think it was funny. But somebody did, and that's all I needed was the laugh. I'm like, it's you bitch, it's not me. You're the problem. You're too serious in here.

• 4:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, why would she need you to be serious if you're getting a stent put in? Would that make it work better?

• 4:15Speaker 01

  I mean, to be fair, I think my whole life, people have said as serious as a heart attack, and I feel like if you dedicated your life to that, you probably a serious person. I don't know any other heart surgeons, but I bet they all pretty uptight.

• 4:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they have to be. It's life or death with every decision that they make, right?

• 4:31Speaker 01

  I guess.

• 4:31Joe Rogan?

  They gotta get it in on time, right? Like, if they're gonna put a stent in you, if they're gonna do something, like, if you're one of those people like you are, that if you didn't address this, you would have died.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:43Joe Rogan?

  So, that's one of those things that's time critical. So I guess with those people, like, hey, stop fucking around. Like, in their mind, like, I gotta save you. I gotta figure out what has to be done within a certain amount of time and get you on the road to recovery, because if I don't, you're dead.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  You know what, something else I remember, and this was just flash, because I only remember like these couple seconds, is she kept yelling at me because I kept moving my hands. So basically, like, I'm laid down like this, and they want you to keep, they want you to keep your hands right by your side. And I just remember, I kept coming to with her being like, hey, keep your hands, she might have said, keep your fucking hands down. I don't know though, I don't know. I ain't gonna make no accusations, but she was clearly upset about it. She was, but I'm like, bitch, I'm on, I'm on drugs you gave me. I'm not doing it on purpose. Apparently, my default response, because they, because they, they have to put a stent in, but they go through your groin.

• 5:41Joe Rogan?

  Yikes.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  So, so, you know, so apparently, like, my default response is to protect my dick.

• 5:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Like, I'm waking up, somebody's fucking around down there. You know? It's like, why don't y'all tie me down if it's that important? Why don't you tie my hands down?

• 5:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  But maybe they can't, I don't know. I don't know what else is going on. And medical people are real sensitive about criticism. You know, some of them were really like, we save lives, how dare you. And it's like, alright.

• 6:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, some of y'all still assholes though.

• 6:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, then they don't have the best sense of humor. They can't. Like, that's not the way you, if you wanna be a really good doctor, you can't be also a stand-up comedian.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Well, see, no, see, the nurses have a sense of humor.

• 6:18Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:19Joe Rogan?

  Right. Nurses are fun.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  They might as well be different species.

• 6:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, nurses are fun. Like, nurses come in, they joke around with you, they fuck around, like, some of them do at least.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, and, and.

• 6:29Joe Rogan?

  Some of them kill you.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Let's be honest. In Atlanta, the nurses were incredibly attractive. Like, there was hot nurses everywhere.

• 6:36Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 6:37Speaker 01

  Like, nurses, and there's something about, like, vet techs. Like, working at the one, the ladies working at the vet hospitals.

• 6:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  There's something about going into that field. I don't know what it is.

• 6:48Joe Rogan?

  Vet techs, you mean veterinarian techs?

• 6:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, like veterinarian techs. But not the, not the doctors.

• 6:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Just the nurses.

• 6:54Joe Rogan?

  Just the nurses. Well, they're people who love animals, sweet people.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, and money. They love animals and money. I, nobody.

• 7:02Joe Rogan?

  Well, the nurses don't usually love money. If they did, they wouldn't get into that profession. But the veterinarian hospital certainly loves money, the administration.

• 7:09Speaker 01

  Speaking of which, I can't, I can't decide which pisses me off more is, like, when I get the bill at the, at the human hospital, or when, or, cause at the vet hospital, I feel like they,

• 7:21Speaker 01

  I feel like they're, like, they're extorting me.

• 7:23Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  You know, like, when I got the bill from this hospital, I was like, god damn. But I was in there and they were, cause they didn't walk up to me while, like, before the surgery and go, what's it gonna be?

• 7:35Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  But when, but when it's your pet, that's what they do.

• 7:38Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  We could do this life-saving thing, which is the best thing to do, but it's way more money than you have. Or, you know, you can be a piece of shit pet owner and get the twenty-dollar thing.

• 7:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're, they're trying to get you to take out a loan, all, all that. Just really turn the screws.

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• 10:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't know when the last time you had to do some serious shit for your pet?

• 10:42Joe Rogan?

  Pretty recently. Marshall swallowed a bunch of rocks.

• 10:45Speaker 01

  Oh, god damn.

• 10:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he, um, we, someone spilled chicken food on the gravel. And he ate all the chicken food and just kept eating and started eating gravel.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 10:56Joe Rogan?

  He's retarded. He's the sweetest, he's the sweetest, sweetest dog that's ever walked the face of the earth, but he is not clever. And, and so, um, we bring him inside, no one knows, no one knows anything that happened. And then he starts throwing up, and he's throwing up rocks, like little pebbles. And then he starts getting diarrhea, and he's diarrhea and pebbles. I'm like, oh, no. And then we put two and two together, we figured out what happened. And so then I had to take him to the vet. So I took him to the vet and he had to stay there overnight. And luckily, they didn't have to do surgery. They pumped it out of it, they somehow or another got the rocks out of his stomach and they had to keep scanning it to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there. And so he passed all the rocks, either threw them up or shit them out.

• 11:39Joe Rogan?

  And then within a certain amount of time, I think he was there for, he was there for at least 24 hours. But after a certain amount of time, he started eating and then they weren't worried about him anymore. That dog fucking eats. He just, all he wants to do is eat, he gets so excited. All he wants to do is, favorite thing is eat.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  I want every morsel of flavor out this dirt.

• 11:55Joe Rogan?

  It's so crazy, he kept eating rocks. I mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't like a small amount of gravel. It was the amount of gravel that was in my living room, on the carpet was crazy.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 12:07Joe Rogan?

  The, out of throw up and just diarrhea, it was everywhere. It was, it was a crime scene.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  I bet you he won't do that shit again.

• 12:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, he will.

• 12:14Speaker 01

  He will.

• 12:15Joe Rogan?

  He'll do it tomorrow. That dog doesn't learn shit. He's the best, like he's a sweet dog. I love him so much. I love him so much. He's just all love. Every time I see him, he just wagging his tail. I get down on the ground with him. He kisses me. I hug him. I rub his belly. He's the best, but he is not. That used to be a wolf. That's what's so fucked up about human beings. We took something that's the most clever, most, they like communicate with each other. They plan traps on animals. They're so clever. You can't, and also you can't train them. You know that about wolves? You can't train them. That's why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus. You cannot train. You could train a bear. You could train a lion. You could train a tiger.

• 12:57Joe Rogan?

  Wolves just go, fuck you. I'm gonna do exactly what I wanna do, but not dogs. Certainly not my dog, like Marshall. He's the sweetest. Like he was so easy to train.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  See, that's wild, cuz you could train a lion, but you can't train a house cat.

• 13:11Joe Rogan?

  Train a wolf, well, you could train house cats to do certain things. Like some people have trained their house cat to shit in the toilet.

• 13:18Speaker 01

  No, Joe, there's a, there's a video of like, I, it, I wanna, she's Russian. It's Russian lady. She's like the world champion cat training lady. And, and she's, and she's getting these cats to do a whole bunch of shit, but every now and then.

• 13:32Joe Rogan?

  They do what they want.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  They just do what the fuck they want.

• 13:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's true. You can't get them to do it like, like a really good dog, like a Belgian Malinois that's a soldier.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  Absolutely not.

• 13:41Joe Rogan?

  Does every task you ask him to. That's impossible.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  Absolutely not.

• 13:44Joe Rogan?

  But with wolves, you can't train them to do anything. They won't listen.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  I didn't know that.

• 13:49Joe Rogan?

  They don't listen to you at all. I had a friend who had wolves. He had like seven eighth timber wolves and they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor sheep. They like, you couldn't stop them from doing anything they wanted to do, whatever they wanted to do.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Why did he have a pack of wolves?

• 14:04Joe Rogan?

  He's an idiot. He had three of them. I was like, you don't have these dogs. You just feed them. You don't, this is not like a dog.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  No.

• 14:12Joe Rogan?

  They don't listen to you and you have a, a house with a yard. Like that's crazy. Like you, you should have like an enormous piece of land and even then, if you have wolves, they're gonna kill everything they run across.

• 14:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, they need miles of.

• 14:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 14:27Speaker 01

  Of space.

• 14:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're, they're cardio machines. They'd run through the mountains. They'd chase down moose.

• 14:33Speaker 01

  That's why I, I get so irritated when, cuz I'm in a, I'm in apartments now. And I'm in one of those, I don't know what the fuck is going on with my building, but but it's full of dog. Like, the building is for dog people. There's there's a dog wash, the all of the grass around it is all fake. And there's there's fucking shitbags every ten feet. And the front of the building, from like noon to four P M, it always just the strongest scent of dog piss because fifty people have walked their dogs around it. And I and that's fine. I don't I don't mind that at all. But what irritates me is when I see. Cause I know I have the biggest apartment in the building.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  And I know that I don't have room for, like, I I don't have the room for like a like a blue like a blue healer or.

• 15:20Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  And it's like, you see motherfuckers with dogs like that was like, yo, you that dog needs to be running. Miles every day. Why you got that big ass dog? Oh, yeah, I see. I saw them. I saw a a. A king corso.

• 15:36Joe Rogan?

  Mm hmm. That's crazy.

• 15:37Speaker 01

  It's like you got a king corso in a in a in a thirteen hundred uh square foot apartment? That's crazy.

• 15:44Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  And I don't and here's the thing, I don't see that motherfucker every day. So you you skipping days? This motherfucker needs to hurt things or or.

• 15:52Joe Rogan?

  He needs to have exercise. It's like having a an M M A fighter living in your house. Like, you better take him to the fucking gym.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, cause people.

• 16:00Joe Rogan?

  He's gonna blow off steam.

• 16:01Speaker 01

  When people find out that I have a cat, they always like, oh, so your apartment smells like a cat. No. No, but but you know, you know, you know whose places always smell bad is people that have a dog that's too fucking big to be in the place.

• 16:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:13Joe Rogan?

  Also, they probably can't wash it right. Like, what are you gonna do? Do you get in the shower with it? I used to get in the shower with my dogs. I bring Marshall to a groomer. But um my my dog Johnny, he used to love to get in the shower with me.

• 16:26Speaker 01

  Really?

• 16:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. He was a big mastiff and he loved it because it was just massages and love in the shower. I just cover him with shampoo and I would talk nice to him. I go, oh, we're getting so clean, buddy. He give me kisses. I'm a good.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  I think there's something about seeing their human with no clothes. They're I think they lock, because my my cat does it. She loves to come in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked. Or she hears a shower running, she just sit there and watch.

• 16:51Joe Rogan?

  It's probably weird to them that you could take your clothes off.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, no, I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes at all.

• 16:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, for sure.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  They're like, what?

• 16:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what are you doing? Why are you under the sheets all the time?

• 17:01Speaker 01

  And I I've softened my stance on people that put clothes on their animals, but I'm like, they don't like it.

• 17:07Joe Rogan?

  No, they don't. Well, some dogs like um Chihuahuas in the winter, it's a good idea.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, what I mean is.

• 17:14Joe Rogan?

  It's like thirty degrees out, put a little sweater on.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  The dog, the dog likes it. No, the dog likes that you like it. They like pleasing you, but they don't want clothes on.

• 17:22Joe Rogan?

  They don't, but if you have like a little do- like like a Chihuahua, for instance, they get really cold. Those guys, if you put a little sweater on them, like they feel better outside. It just makes sense, it's warm.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  But but okay, then go all the way then. Where the boots at?

• 17:36Joe Rogan?

  Bah. I'm gonna wear boots in the summer because like New York City, like the street gets so hot. Like you think about how hot the street gets. If it's ninety-eight degrees outside.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  It was like broken glass.

• 17:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god. Yeah, I mean, you're you're just walking on hot rocks.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  Right. But also, what are you doing with that big ass dog in New York City?

• 17:53Joe Rogan?

  That's true.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  There are no apartments. Why you got a Great Dane out here in New York?

• 17:57Joe Rogan?

  I mean, I wouldn't have to make a choice. Like if for some reason I had to move to New York City, I'm not getting rid of my dog and I'm not leaving my dog here.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  You can't be rid of your dog.

• 18:07Joe Rogan?

  No chance. Not a chance in hell. So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle of taking that dog out to like Central Park every day, doing things to them every day. I would have to make a choice.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 18:18Joe Rogan?

  I would have to live near the park for sure.

• 18:21Speaker 01

  Like for me to get for me to get rid of my cat, it something, it would have to be like.

• 18:25Joe Rogan?

  They'd have to die.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  They'd have to die or or it would have to be something where like I I am absolutely not capable of, you know, like I'm I'm I can't move, you know, something crazy like that.

• 18:36Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right, right, right.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  When I tried to, when I moved out here from Cali, uh like she she can't fly.

• 18:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so did you drive her across the country?

• 18:44Speaker 01

  I paid somebody to.

• 18:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, there you go.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Oh, me, that would that would be a fu- actually, I didn't have a car at the time, but that would be a nightmare.

• 18:50Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 18:51Speaker 01

  She, this is the most stubborn, like this creature, like I I I have a hard time getting her, I've taken her to three groomers, they all been like, you gotta come get her.

• 18:58Joe Rogan?

  Nah.

• 19:00Speaker 01

  Cause she don't, she doesn't like to be restrained in any way.

• 19:03Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, and at the slightest sign that you're thinking about holding her down or putting her in something, she will fight with everything she got.

• 19:14Joe Rogan?

  Uh, is she a feral cat?

• 19:15Speaker 01

  No, well, she might have been.

• 19:17Joe Rogan?

  Where'd you get her?

• 19:18Speaker 01

  I got her, the the story the lady told me, it doesn't really add up, but basically, she was.

• 19:27Speaker 01

  A divorce happened. This family had two cats and a dog. And then the wife got the house and started fostering animals. And then my cat's brother, who, so her and her brother were the original cats. My cat's brother started, basically like, joined this pack of cats against, because Millie don't socialize at all. But her brother kind of turned on her.

• 19:55Joe Rogan?

  Game of Thrones.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, and so since then, she was just hostile with everybody. All the animals, I mean. And so when I came to get her, all these animals were in this lady's house, except Millie. She was in the garage, and they had a little post, and she was in the garage. And when I came to take her, she was so down to go. She was like, fuck all them people, fuck my brother, fuck this.

• 20:13Joe Rogan?

  But she likes you?

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, she loves me. She's still, to this, she follows me from room to room.

• 20:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, that's sweet.

• 20:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:20Joe Rogan?

  There's some cats that just choose one person, too.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  She also hates me, too, so.

• 20:23Joe Rogan?

  She hates you?

• 20:24Speaker 01

  I think she hates.

• 20:26Joe Rogan?

  She probably had bad experiences.

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's just, she's got some kind of trauma that I'll never know about.

• 20:31Joe Rogan?

  You gotta give her some kitty cat ayahuasca.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  Bro, I've had to, I've had to put her on, on CBD and shit before we go to the vet.

• 20:38Joe Rogan?

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• 21:22Joe Rogan?

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• 21:40Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, sometimes.

• 21:41Joe Rogan?

  Does she get high and roll around, get freaky?

• 21:43Speaker 01

  She loves it.

• 21:44Joe Rogan?

  What is it so weird? What does cat, it works on every cat. I've never seen a cat where it doesn't work on. Imagine, I mean, is there shit like that for people?

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 21:53Joe Rogan?

  He just gives someone-

• 21:54Speaker 01

  We got plenty of shit like that.

• 21:56Joe Rogan?

  But I don't know if it gets them high. I don't know what it's doing to them.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  To them?

• 21:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's find out. I really have no idea what the mechanism of-

• 22:04Joe Rogan?

  Let's put this into perplexity. Alright, Jeremy already did it.

• 22:06Speaker 01

  What's perplexity?

• 22:07Joe Rogan?

  Catnip is an aromatic- perplexity is our AR sponsor.

• 22:11Speaker 01

  Really?

• 22:12Joe Rogan?

  Yes, we have an AR sponsor.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  Oh shit, okay.

• 22:14Joe Rogan?

  It's the shit. Uh, it's not ideologically captured. Catnip is an aromatic herb in the mint family whose leaves and stems contain a chemical- how do you say that word? Nep- nepetal- uh, wanna try that, Jamie?

• 22:29Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say nepetalactone.

• 22:31Joe Rogan?

  Nepetal- I think you're right. Nepetalactone. That triggers playful or euphoric behavior in many cats. Many cats, interesting. I thought it was all cats. Uh, plant is native to Eurasia, now common across temperate regions, and is easy to grow in North America, often in gardens or pots. Why cats react to it? Catnip contains an oil whose main active compound is nepetalactone, a type of terpene produced in glands on the leaves and stems. When cats smell nepetalactone, it binds to receptors in their nose and stimulates brain pathways linked to mood, leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring,

• 23:11Joe Rogan?

  meowing, jumping, or brief zoomies. Only about two-thirds. Oh, okay. Eighty percent of cats are sensitive to catnip. The tendency is genetic. The effect usually lasts five to fifteen minutes, after which they become temporarily immune for a while. Interesting. Is it safe? For most cats, catnip is considered non-toxic and safe, and many vets recommend it as enrichment to encourage play and reduce boredom or stress. Eating a small amount is usually fine and may soothe the digestive tract, but large amounts can cause short-lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or dizziness. Your cat's just a fucking, a fiend.

• 23:49Speaker 01

  Oh shit, you only supposed to give a pinch?

• 23:51Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  That's what it say down there.

• 23:53Joe Rogan?

  Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of dried or fresh- how much do you give your cat?

• 23:58Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  I don't fuck to her world.

• 24:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god. You give her a fat bag? You give her a fat bag?

• 24:12Speaker 01

  I just let her go at it, man. You know what's funny, man? My cat is very, like, I let her do what she wants. You know, like, I let her, she, she gets, she can go outside, like, you know, she's not, she's not an outdoor cat, but if she wanna go out, I'll open the door. I, cuz I make, you know what it is? I make sure outside is not some, some mystery place that she, if she, if she wanna go, I, I open the door and let her go, and then after she get cold or hear something and smell, and run back in the house. Because that way, she's not, like, just dying to go out there all the time.

• 24:40Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  I'm not worried about her running away.

• 24:42Joe Rogan?

  I worry about coyotes, man. When you let cats out, man, coyotes are fucking, and they target your house. They know where the cats are, they know the cats that get let out.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, but, but it's like, it, it, nothing comes near my building, cuz it just smells like, just, it smells like fifty dogs live there.

• 24:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they eat dogs too.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Really?

• 24:59Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Yeah, my daughter's puppy got eaten by a coyote in California. Guy was training it, and he left the puppy outside, and it got eaten by coyotes.

• 25:08Speaker 01

  Bro, I haven't seen no coyotes.

• 25:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I've seen them.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  Also, but here's the other thing too, my, my, my, my girl is, you know, she, she takes zero chances. The slightest sign of danger, she, she already got, no, she got fifty spots to hide and run.

• 25:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  Like, she's never gotten into it with anything.

• 25:27Joe Rogan?

  The thing about coyotes is they have it in, they're predators, right? And cats are predators too, but pets are different than wild animals.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, this bitch ain't no predator.

• 25:37Joe Rogan?

  They're very different.

• 25:37Speaker 01

  She'll bring a fucking mouse in the house.

• 25:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, they kill stuff, they, they, they kill stuff for fun, but there's a difference between that and needing to eat. And needing to, like, eat cats in order to survive, which is what coyotes do. So coyotes know where the cats are. They know what the smell when cats are peeing outside. So they know a cat lives in the house, and they know the cat pees outside, they just hover nearby and wait. Because they know it's a matter of time before the cat has to go outside.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  You know what's funny, man? I haven't seen the coyote the whole time I've lived in Austin.

• 26:07Joe Rogan?

  They'll hide.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  Three years now.

• 26:09Joe Rogan?

  They hide.

• 26:09Speaker 01

  I know, I saw them all the time in LA, though.

• 26:12Joe Rogan?

  You'll see them. They exist.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  You know what it is? I think it's that the ones out here aren't starving like the ones in LA were.

• 26:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 26:17Speaker 01

  So they, because they get bolder and bolder if they, the hungrier they get.

• 26:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, the thing about Austin as opposed to LA is there's a lot of animals and there's a lot of moisture. Right? So if you're outside of greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time out where I live. Because there's a lot of animals where I live. I see like foxes almost every day. I see armadillos. A couple of times a week. I see deer every day. I always see the, especially when I come home, I see foxes running across the road. There's all kinds of animals. So there's all kinds of things that coyotes eat. A lot of rabbits, all kinds of things coyotes eat. And so they don't have to come into the city. Whereas in LA, you've got LA and then everything around LA is just barren.

• 27:00Joe Rogan?

  You know, it's all dry and fucked up and you, you might find a rabbit, but it's way easier to eat someone's cat.

• 27:07Speaker 01

  See, and I think, I think that every person doesn't realize how, how many coyotes are around them.

• 27:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Every major city, they're like, they're like raccoons. They're in every city, everywhere.

• 27:17Joe Rogan?

  There's a great book on it called Coyote America.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 27:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's really good. And um, it's all about how coyotes, what happens is um, when they yell out, they're doing like a roll call. And when they're doing a roll call, they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there. And when one of them's missing, the female coyotes assume that that coyote's dead. And so their body responds by making a larger litter.

• 27:46Speaker 01

  What?

• 27:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they'll have more babies if someone's missing.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  Damn, death makes them horny?

• 27:51Joe Rogan?

  Well, it makes them have more children. They always have children. They're always horny, right? But they, instead of having three pups, they'll have six. And they spread out because they were persecuted by gray wolves like that's the whole deal and being gray wolves and red so coyotes and red wolves mate with each other that's why you get what they call coy wolf but it really is coyote is a wolf it's a type of wolf but they're not related to the gray wolves and gray wolves and coyotes don't mate so gray wolves the ones that have in like Colorado and you know like Montana those wolves just eat coyotes they just kill them like they don't fuck around they so there's no

• 28:34Joe Rogan?

  chance of becoming allies so those coyotes learned a long time ago when they start getting killed by wolves just spread out just get the fuck out of there keep moving that's why they're in 50 states they're in every city in the country now and that wasn't the case when I was a kid when I was a kid like I grew up in Massachusetts in my high school years there was no fucking coyotes nobody I never even heard of anybody seeing a coyote

• 28:59Speaker 01

  yeah me neither

• 29:00Joe Rogan?

  I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994 in uh I I do you remember in LA they have those Oakwood Garden apartments

• 29:08Speaker 01

  mm-mm

• 29:09Joe Rogan?

  it's like furnished apartments that they had in LA and I was driving to it it's like when I first moved there I didn't have an apartment yet when I first moved there I was like those fucking dogs what is dogs and like oh shit those are coyotes I remember pulling the car over looking at them like this is weird these weird little wolves just wandering around the city

• 29:28Speaker 01

  like that's how you know you see in a coyote you're like is that a dog

• 29:30Joe Rogan?

  yeah well that was the first time and that was in 94 but by the time you know we left in 2020 fucking they were everywhere I mean everywhere like they expanded

• 29:43Speaker 01

  yeah they're everywhere

• 29:44Joe Rogan?

  and now they're in New York City they find them in in the middle of the fucking park they they find them in the Bronx they're in abandoned buildings they're all over the place they're in Chicago coyotes are all over the whole country

• 29:56Speaker 01

  when I uh when I was in LA one of the neighborhoods I lived in that was like I was in the neighborhood Facebook group and there was a dude in there his name was coyote the guy's name was coyote that he just wanted everybody to know that he loved coyotes so much and he would literally he would defend coyotes no matter what the fuck they did like somebody would be in the Facebook group hey a coyote fucking ate my dog right out of my hands watch out and this guy would be like if anybody here harms that coyote they have to answer to me fuck your dog Oh, yeah, I think his name was like, his name was like Coyote Jones or something like that. He was serious. He was real serious.

• 30:31Joe Rogan?

  Really into coyotes?

• 30:32Speaker 01

  He was, you know, everybody, everybody got their thing.

• 30:36Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're an interesting animal, man. That's, it's really interesting in that, that book. It was, it's all about.

• 30:42Speaker 01

  You know who's, um, I just saw something about how raccoons are the next animal that, that's being, you know, tamed or domesticated or whatever.

• 30:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I believe that.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  The ones, the ones in the city are starting to have like shorter snouts and.

• 30:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, whoa.

• 31:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're starting to.

• 31:01Joe Rogan?

  Look more like how wolves became bitch ass wolves when they came around the fire.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  They're basically, they're starting to get cuter.

• 31:07Joe Rogan?

  Like dogs.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  The ones closer to us are getting cuter because they know it, it gets them treated better. The cuter, the cuter ones have more, more babies. The same thing. I know, and that's crazy. Cause I read somewhere that we haven't actually domesticated cats or, or not.

• 31:21Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Maybe domesticated isn't the word, but.

• 31:23Joe Rogan?

  Never got them to the point where we did with dogs.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Exactly. But, but raccoons are getting there.

• 31:30Joe Rogan?

  That's so interesting because, but it makes sense. Like, did you ever heard about that Russian study they did with foxes? Like how quickly you can domesticate a fox?

• 31:38Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I didn't know that you could do that.

• 31:40Joe Rogan?

  It's really quick. So you start out with foxes and any fox that shows any aggress, you start with a bunch of foxes. Any fox that shows any aggression to a person, you kill it on the spot.

• 31:52Joe Rogan?

  Bang, dead, fuck you. Get all the ones that survive or ones that have no aggression towards people. And then slowly their snouts get shorter and their ears start to flop. And over the course of like 10 years, you got a totally different animal. See if you can find that.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  Why don't people do that?

• 32:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, they did do that with this one study, but it was just to show how quick things change. Like given natural selection, like natural selection dictated that if you're a sweeter fox, you live. If you show your teeth, they fucking shoot you in the head, you know, and I'm sure Russian scientists are probably a little bit more hardcore.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Oh Chinese.

• 32:26Joe Rogan?

  Here it is. Dmitry Belov and Ludmilla Trut. The Russian fox domestication program is a long-term experiment in Novosibirsk, Siberia, that successfully bred domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox, selecting specifically for tameness. After over sixty years and dozens of generations, foxes act like domesticated elite pets, displaying dog-like behaviors such as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention. So you could buy them? Can you buy one of these foxes? That's crazy. See if there's a video. Oh, you can get one for nine thousand bucks.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  What?

• 33:07Joe Rogan?

  Known for high energy and needing intensive care. Yeah, you don't want that in your fucking thirteen-hundred-square-foot apartment.

• 33:13Speaker 01

  What makes them elite, though?

• 33:14Joe Rogan?

  It is interesting, right? What does that mean?

• 33:20Joe Rogan?

  Does it look like AI?

• 33:23Joe Rogan?

  Let's see. It's, who knows nowadays, right? Oh, look at this, ladies got a fox as a pet.

• 33:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow, they're like little dogs. That's crazy. But the thing about foxes are, they are like playful in the wild. Even wild foxes are playful with people. Oh, this little guy's missing a foot. Aw.

• 33:49Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if those are wild or...

• 33:52Speaker 04

  I think it's just showing foxes.

• 33:53Joe Rogan?

  These are just different foxes. I don't think these are those foxes. This is just... Right. It's showing the info and then showing a bunch of different foxes. But if you remember Grizzly Man, like that movie?

• 34:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 34:04Joe Rogan?

  The Werner Herzog movie? So he was living in the middle of Alaska, around these bears, and the foxes would come and hang out with him. And the foxes would like hang out in his tent. They would play with him. They stole his hat once and ran away with his hat. And he was like chasing them, trying to get his hat back.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  And the bears don't attack the foxes?

• 34:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, they probably would if they could, but foxes probably can get away. I mean, they'd probably catch a fox slipping every now and then, but mostly what they were looking for up there was salmon. They were eating a lot of salmon. And when bears get salmon, that's all they want. Like you, there's a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy. And they're on the edge of a river and the salmon are running, there's all these bears in there that'll just like, just gorging on salmon. Which is why those coastal bears are so much bigger. Like Kodiak bears, like Alaska, the reason why they're so much bigger is because they have access to salmon. They have access to fish and all the other animals that are there too, but when there, when there's a salmon run, that's all they want. They just want to eat salmon.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  So you're saying like, if you give salmon to a bear that's never had salmon before, it'll just, that's all it'll want after.

• 35:08Joe Rogan?

  No, that's not what I'm saying. I wouldn't, uh, it's probably delicious. I mean, that's why we like sashimi. But I think it's, the access is so easy.

• 35:16Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 35:16Joe Rogan?

  They don't have to chase anything. They just stand in the river. It literally comes to them. They just bite it out of the air. You see how bears do that?

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:22Joe Rogan?

  And bears are kind of lazy. Like if they can preserve energy, they will. They just want to get fat for hibernation, right? So they just want to eat as much as possible. So the point is like when they're like that and they're just eating fish, you don't even have to worry about them. They're not even going to kill you. So this dude is like sitting there, he's got like a little lawn chair. And this fucking giant bear just walks up besides him and sits down. Like sits down almost like a person. And they're like, hey, get out of here. Hey, but I mean, it is as close to him as you are to me. And it might be a thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is fucking gigantic and you see the river behind him. So you see all these bears that are just scooping salmon out of the river.

• 36:04Speaker 01

  And what is the, what is the bear trying to tell him about doing?

• 36:06Joe Rogan?

  Bears aren't, doesn't give a fuck. He's just comes to sit down. Like he might be a stick or a person. It doesn't matter. It's eating salmon. That's right? Like, watch this. Look at this. Look at this.

• 36:18Joe Rogan?

  This dude's just sitting there with his fucking chair and this giant ass bear just comes next to him. Look at the size of that thing.

• 36:28Joe Rogan?

  But it's not interested in him at all. It's not like playing coy. It's not pretending it's not gonna kill him. Like it's, it doesn't care about him. Like it doesn't think that he's gonna eat it. That's for fuck sure, right? So it's like, he's just chilling. Like that might as well be... Look at it, he sits down like a person.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  Bro, you know what it is about these motherfuckers is how fast it can go from this to terrifying.

• 36:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, to 45 miles an hour. But look, he's like, "Hey, get out of here." Then it walks off.

• 37:02Joe Rogan?

  It's like, "Alright, now we're getting in trouble. Just hanging out." It's amazing that the thing listens to him. But it's also amazing that he's not freaked out. I guess he's taking a photo. So in that video, you see there's a ton of bears. So they're just hanging out in that stream. They just lay, and they don't fight with each other either during those situations? Cause they know there's so much salmon, there's enough for everybody. So like if one of them kills a moose, right? The other ones will come over and try to steal it from them. "Fuck you, that's my moose." And they'll, they'll, cause there's only one food source. But on these rivers, there's just constant fish coming out. So they're like, "Ah, ah." They're just grabbing them and eating them. And they're fucking gigantic because of that. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. Believe it or not, the holiday season is here again.

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• 40:04Speaker 01

  No shit about these animals, man.

• 40:06Joe Rogan?

  We know a little.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  You know, I just saw some shit about Florida. So they, they have a serious, uh, uh, snake problem now. Like, I think it's-

• 40:18Joe Rogan?

  Pythons.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's pythons and-

• 40:20Joe Rogan?

  How'd he do it on? Python cowboy. He gave us a head. Where is that head? You know where that head is?

• 40:26Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, well, they, so they, they have, they've been trying to catch, so apparently it came from the eighties and the nineties of like, a big python pet boom.

• 40:35Joe Rogan?

  It was a research center that got hit by a hurricane.

• 40:38Speaker 01

  Right, that's what I was about to say. The hurricane came, they released it into the wild. Now it's a problem, and they tried paying hunters to get them, and they tried to training dogs to find them. Nothing is good enough. But then, they made, they made robot rabbits. Did you see this? Yeah, they made they made robot rabbits and they made them they made them uh they put them in these boxes and they they've they've generated fake body heat. And and and the scent of rabbits and everything and it did attract it did pull the snakes, but it pulled everything else too. So what ended up happening is the the snake's only natural predator was these was was alligators.

• 41:21Speaker 01

  And the alligators was fucking these things up and the snakes purposely avoid the alligators. So it ended up having the opposite effect. The snakes stayed away and the alligators were fucking these boxes up.

• 41:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 41:34Speaker 01

  And it was almost a complete waste. But then one of the nerds, as they were about to shut the whole fucking thing now, he noticed in the data that what they actually found out, so they plugged it into AI and the AI did this whole fucking map of all the data, because because apparently before every attack, the uh the those boxes were still like tracking movement and everything was going on. And they found out that the animals have like highways. So it's not that the snakes were in random places, is that is that the snakes and the alligators were using these these highways that only they could smell of of like the quickest ways to get through the Everglades and stuff like that.

• 42:19Speaker 01

  And so they were able, so now they just they know where they are and they know how they get from one part of the of the swamp to the to the other. And they didn't, so we learned something. We still don't know what the fuck to do about the pythons.

• 42:32Joe Rogan?

  They use dogs a lot where the dogs find the eggs.

• 42:36Speaker 01

  Well, they they trained these two dogs specifically, but it but they got to the point where it's like you know, you just it's just so much ground to cover. Two dogs ain't gonna do it. And it was, because because that's the problem with the pythons. I mean, we could wipe them out if we wanted.

• 42:49Joe Rogan?

  I don't think we can.

• 42:50Speaker 01

  Well, the problem is.

• 42:50Joe Rogan?

  The Everglades are so big.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  Well, that's my point is we can't, like, the cost of doing it, we we just haven't found a way where we can do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy amount of money.

• 43:01Joe Rogan?

  But you think about all the money they do spend shit on, like if they got all this Somali daycare center money back, they can kill the snakes.

• 43:10Joe Rogan?

  Yo, did you see Ilhan Omar? She was reading off of a script. She's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota, from Minneapolis. And she was rea- she's connected, at least accused of being connected to the Somali daycare center. She's Somali, she's accused of being connected to this fraud. So she's reading off this script. And you know how people write World War II and they use like II for II?

• 43:37Speaker 01

  Okay, yeah.

• 43:38Joe Rogan?

  She reads it as World War XI.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  This is a congressperson?

• 43:45Joe Rogan?

  She's a congresswoman! See if you can find the video, Jamie. It's kind of adorable. It's kind of adorable because I don't think English is her first language already. At least it doesn't sound...

• 43:56Speaker 05

  The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants during World War XI. Oh, two.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  At least she caught it, though.

• 44:12Joe Rogan?

  I didn't know she caught it. I never saw it. They always cut it off before she caught it.

• 44:16Speaker 01

  Well, that's politics, bro. Politics is fucking brutal, man.

• 44:20Joe Rogan?

  It's gross.

• 44:21Speaker 01

  I don't understand why anybody would want to go into it.

• 44:24Joe Rogan?

  But you imagine, how could you say World War XI? Like, you know there haven't been nine other wars you forgot about.

• 44:30Speaker 01

  But I've said way dumber shit than that.

• 44:34Joe Rogan?

  But have you ever read off a written speech?

• 44:37Speaker 01

  I mean, oh man, I would almost be... You know what it is? I do, on a daily basis, I do things or say things that... Like, I'm like, I definitely shouldn't have children. You know, like, I'm...

• 44:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you did, they'd make fun of you. I say stupid shit and my kids make fun of me. It's normal.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, my brain...

• 44:59Joe Rogan?

  It's part of being a person. To pretend that you don't say stupid shit... But the thing is, like, you and I say stupid shit publicly. Like, we'll say stupid shit on a podcast.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. And sometimes, sometimes you get paid to pay for it. But I'm talking about stuff that I would, that I would be embarrassed to have said publicly.

• 45:16Joe Rogan?

  Like World War Eleven?

• 45:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, like World War Eleven. Cause I'm telling you, I do shit like that all the time. I have, I have wacky, uh, Tony makes fun of me all the time, cause he's like, you're like a cartoon character. I have that kinda luck, where it's like, sometimes I just have those days, man. I wake, I woke, I wake up, this happened like, the, remember when I was, so last Tuesday? Right? Last bottom of the barrel. You walked in the green room, and I told you, I, I went to go smell the candle, and I didn't know, those are no Jelly Roll candles? And it, it's a bong. And I wasn't thinking about it, and I went to smell the candle, and poured the wax on my clothes, right before I gotta go off stage. And I was wearing like, light pants, so it looked like I jizzed on my pants, as the wax was drying. And, and, and I, that's why I went home early that day, cause I was like,

• 46:00Speaker 01

  it was one of those days, I woke up, and the day started that way. I, I, I woke up to my C-Pop machine crashing on the floor, because I rolled over and pulled it off my nightstand. And I get up to go, to go deal with that, and I fucking stubbed my toe. And I'm like, it's gonna be one of these days. It's gonna be one of these fucking days. I'm gonna drop, drop a glass in the kitchen, you know?

• 46:19Joe Rogan?

  So you just said, let's call it a day?

• 46:21Speaker 01

  I said, yeah, yeah, I call it. Go home, go right to sleep.

• 46:23Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:25Joe Rogan?

  So you gave up on the day?

• 46:26Speaker 01

  No, I still, I mean, I still ended up at the, I ended up at the mothership that night.

• 46:30Joe Rogan?

  Your set was good, though.

• 46:31Speaker 01

  My set was good, but I took a nap. I napped till the mothership, cause I, nothing could happen while I'm asleep. Take this edible, take a strong nap, get to the mothership, do my sets, leave.

• 46:40Joe Rogan?

  Almost like it's a new day, cause you just woke up.

• 46:42Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, but no, but then I spilled the wax on me. So my brain was like, you don't get to cheat.

• 46:48Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. The idea of good days and bad days, based on just, like, that's, this is what the, the world has planned for you today. This is a bad day.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  You know what it is? Is if I don't get the sunshine, like I, cause I'm a night owl, which kinda sucks, but if, e- either I need to stay up for the sunshine, cause my, I got the blackout curtains. But if I, if I wake up late in the day, and I don't get no sunshine, I just, I feel dumber.

• 47:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, definitely. I do too.

• 47:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, when I, if I wake up late, even if I get a good amount of sleep, like more than five hours, but if I was up really- Late at night and then I wake up late, I feel off. Cause your whole system's all scrambled. Your system is used to waking up in the morning, going to bed at night. But if you stay up late, like your brain is working on like forty percent capacity.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  Sometimes I, sometimes I, I, cause I get, I'm a big gamer. Sometimes I get it and I'm one of those people like if I pay sixty dollars for a game or seven, now it's like eighty dollars. But I'mma play the fuck out of it. Like the day it come out, I'm playing it all night.

• 47:49Joe Rogan?

  So you're playing online or you're playing the game itself?

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Both.

• 47:52Joe Rogan?

  Both.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  It depends, it depends on the game.

• 47:54Joe Rogan?

  What is the games that you like?

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Uh, all type of shit.

• 47:56Joe Rogan?

  Like what's the big one right now?

• 47:58Speaker 01

  Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock. It's not, it's not avail, it's not open available to the public.

• 48:05Joe Rogan?

  It is?

• 48:06Speaker 01

  No.

• 48:06Joe Rogan?

  Dude, you're a developer?

• 48:08Speaker 01

  No, but you can get, you have to be invited. It's a closed, uh, what would they call it? A closed beta or playtest, closed playtest.

• 48:14Joe Rogan?

  That's how hardcore you are? You get invited to beta tests?

• 48:17Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I got, I got a bunch of nerdy friends. Uh, yeah, well, actually my little, one of my little nerd groups is like, it's, it threw one of the servers at the mother shit. We all game. We like, we on the same discord. We'll get on there, we don't, cause it's nice to have a group where it's like some new shit come out and we like.

• 48:32Joe Rogan?

  Yo, this is Deathlock?

• 48:34Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 48:34Joe Rogan?

  This looks cool.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  This shit cooler than a motherfucker, but it's, it also will make you mad as shit.

• 48:40Joe Rogan?

  So it's third person, so you're looking at it in third person?

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's third person.

• 48:44Joe Rogan?

  And you get to pick who you are? Oh, what is that?

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, I think there's thirty four characters. So look, that's all different people.

• 48:53Speaker 04

  There's a lot of information on the screen that just popped up.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 48:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what's all those?

• 48:58Speaker 01

  Buddy, this is.

• 48:59Joe Rogan?

  What are all those things?

• 49:00Speaker 01

  This is crazy. I'mma fuck this up and a bunch of people. Okay, so, so basically, okay. So. So basically, so see, see that bottom, that bottom left number, the green number three thousand three?

• 49:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:13Speaker 01

  Okay, so those are souls, which is just money.

• 49:15Joe Rogan?

  Your monies are souls?

• 49:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, they, they, in this game, just think of souls as dollars.

• 49:20Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  So she's got three thousand dollars and basically. So the thing she just left is the lane she was in. And basically, how well you're playing the game, how many kills you get, how many minions you're getting, you get more money, and the money lets you go buy those items. That's what all those cards are underneath those people. It tells you what everyone's bought.

• 49:39Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 49:40Speaker 01

  And since this bitch got the most money, she's bought the most stuff, which makes her stronger. So this game's all about getting the money to get stronger faster, so you can win.

• 49:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 49:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:50Joe Rogan?

  It's like a zip line? Is she on a zip line here?

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, because if you see on the right-hand side, that's the map. So there's three different lanes you have to control, right? And that big box is like the...

• 50:08Speaker 01

  Man, this is a lot to...

• 50:09Joe Rogan?

  Is this like League of Legends, but on the ground?

• 50:11Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 50:11Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  I'm glad you put it like that, but that doesn't help Joe at all.

• 50:14Joe Rogan?

  It doesn't help me at all.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  He's like...

• 50:16Joe Rogan?

  Thank you.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay, so see the yellow side? See the yellow side on the left-hand side of the map? Okay, that first tower is where you start at. And the point is to get stronger, get underneath that, destroy it. Then you work down to the second one. That one is a little stronger. It defends itself. That's what she's in front of right now.

• 50:35Joe Rogan?

  Mmm, okay.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  And then...

• 50:36Joe Rogan?

  They're on teams.

• 50:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's two teams trying to... And basically, you're trying to work yourself down to their base and kill the one on their base.

• 50:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow. So you gang, you join up with a team of guys that are playing this online?

• 50:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's six-on-six.

• 50:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 50:50Speaker 01

  But then they just... But here's the thing. This is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced brawl mode, which is, or street brawl, which is basically, it knocks it down to four-on-four. It makes it one lane, and it gives you random items. So you don't have to do any of the complicated shit. You can just get in and get it.

• 51:10Joe Rogan?

  So you get in, run around, grab something, and beat people up with it?

• 51:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, so basically, the brawl mode is just a condensed version of the game where you're just fighting. You don't have to worry about managing anything.

• 51:21Joe Rogan?

  Boy, that looks like it'd take up a lot of time.

• 51:23Speaker 01

  Oh, buddy. Yeah, because here's the thing. What's crazy about shit like that is, if you're... If somehow you end up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing and everyone's communicating, one of those games can be over in 25 minutes. But if you're on a, that's probably not gonna happen. So it could go anywhere from twenty-five minutes and I, to, to an hour. I've seen games go an hour. Yeah, so it's like, but most of, if a game is going that long, it's just because, it's either cuz people are playing with you. Cuz it's one of those things where like, if you get, if you get behind to a certain point, you can't come back. That's the whole point of the game.

• 52:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, it's, the whole point is a snowball is like, I'm so much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do. It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you.

• 52:08Joe Rogan?

  Okay, is this cuz they've collected the most stuff?

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Cuz they just had, they've, they had, they've had the most money for the longest.

• 52:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 52:13Speaker 01

  And they can just keep buying better and better shit than you, and there's nothing you can do about it. Um, but my point is, you, the point is for you to get to a certain point and just end the game. But some people don't know when that is, you know?

• 52:25Speaker 04

  The quick, uh, three-sentence overview of what the game is, is a futuristic urban fantasy New York. Your gods part of an occult ritual, trying to destroy each other.

• 52:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I'll be, so the back, the backstory is, an event happened called the Maelstrom, that.

• 52:44Joe Rogan?

  There's a whole origin story?

• 52:46Speaker 01

  No, this is just the backstory. It opened up a portal that let magic and, magic into the world. And all of these people got all these abilities and powers and stuff like that. And, and there's two opposing gods in some other dimension, and they want you to summon them so they can cross over into this realm. And, and so they're, so the team you're on is whichever god you're working for.

• 53:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  And if you, when you win the game, that's supposed to be you completing the ritual, and if you help complete the ritual, you get a wish. And so, when you, when you go to each character, it tells you their backstory and what they want, what wish they want, when they get there.

• 53:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 53:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and some people don't want nothing, they just wanna fuck people up.

• 53:24Joe Rogan?

  And how long you been playing this game?

• 53:28Speaker 01

  It's been probably, I don't know, a year and a half.

• 53:33Joe Rogan?

  So this seems super complicated, and like it would dedicate a considerable amount of thinking.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  It's very complex. You, cuz you don't, you, you don't even know what the fuck you're doing for like the first two hundred hours.

• 53:48Speaker 01

  Like, it takes about 200 hours before you're like, okay, I kinda, I kinda get what's going on.

• 53:52Joe Rogan?

  This is the kind of things that people without kids say.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just, I can't. I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a 43-year-old child. Like, I don't live like an adult.

• 54:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 54:03Speaker 01

  No. I live like, almost like a frat, like a frat boy or something.

• 54:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you can pull it off, those are, when you ask people, some of the happiest times of their life.

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, for na- yeah.

• 54:16Joe Rogan?

  When they were young and free, especially people that don't like what they do. Right? People get a job and they don't like it, and then they have responsibilities and they can't leave their job.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  Shit, or people that get a wife and don't like her.

• 54:27Joe Rogan?

  That happens a lot.

• 54:28Speaker 01

  That happens too much.

• 54:29Joe Rogan?

  Boy, that happens too much. And a husband you don't like too, both, both sides.

• 54:33Speaker 01

  That's probably worse.

• 54:34Joe Rogan?

  That hap- well, both of them are bad, but it happens a lot. A lot of people.

• 54:39Speaker 04

  Are you gaming one of these, Brian?

• 54:41Speaker 01

  Ooh, um, that, that was, that is, that's insane.

• 54:46Joe Rogan?

  That's life.

• 54:47Speaker 04

  But that seems like how you should be playing a game like this, right?

• 54:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, in a dark room. Let's talk.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, but the thing is, that, I don't think that chair is very comfortable.

• 54:55Joe Rogan?

  How dare you? That chair goes upside down. You're laying down, brother.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  There's versions of it, you could make, you could customize that.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  Oh shit, how much? Six grand? So wait a minute.

• 55:02Joe Rogan?

  This is zero gravity. Watch, hit the different images. Look at, it's like that, Brian.

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 55:09Joe Rogan?

  That's what I'm talking about.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Well, what else does it do? Does it massage?

• 55:12Joe Rogan?

  Sucks your dick.

• 55:13Speaker 01

  I mean, 10 grand is wild.

• 55:15Joe Rogan?

  Comes out, just sucks your dick.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll take that. Can you piss in that thing?

• 55:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, it used to be 10 grand. It's on sale.

• 55:21Speaker 04

  They have the one that's also like, have you seen the bed version?

• 55:24Speaker 01

  The what?

• 55:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, this one, this one does go backwards, right? Show, show a version of it where it's completely reclined.

• 55:30Speaker 04

  That's what I was trying to, yeah, yeah.

• 55:32Speaker 01

  You got this shit, don't you, Jamie?

• 55:33Speaker 04

  No, but I've, there's things.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Oh, it's a scorpion. Ooh.

• 55:36Speaker 04

  Let me show you something else, hold on.

• 55:38Speaker 01

  So.

• 55:38Joe Rogan?

  That's pretty wicked.

• 55:41Joe Rogan?

  And so you can adjust that, and you can make the screen right in front of your face?

• 55:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, I'm about to skip four heart treatments and get that chair.

• 55:54Speaker 01

  About to be a motherfucking crazy.

• 55:56Speaker 04

  This is the other version.

• 55:57Joe Rogan?

  That was pretty cool too.

• 55:58Speaker 01

  Oh, see that, I actually prefer what we're looking at here.

• 56:02Speaker 04

  This?

• 56:03Joe Rogan?

  Do you?

• 56:03Speaker 01

  Well.

• 56:04Joe Rogan?

  You prefer that to the, the one that you lie back?

• 56:06Speaker 01

  No, cause I don't, I don't use a cont- I only, the only games I use a controller with is Madden.

• 56:10Joe Rogan?

  So you're a, a mouse and keyboard guy?

• 56:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, al- almost exclusively.

• 56:15Joe Rogan?

  That's what I am.

• 56:15Speaker 04

  Like a little futon, built on.

• 56:17Joe Rogan?

  I never play, I never figured out how to use those things.

• 56:19Speaker 01

  No, fuck that futon, listen, if you gonna, th- th- eh, eh, who's choosing a futon? If you got the money for a good gaming PC, you n- you better not have no futon.

• 56:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's, he just went all in on the gaming PC.

• 56:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean.

• 56:31Joe Rogan?

  No choice, no chance of pussy.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  My shit's got kinda, my, it's gotten kinda crazy, recently.

• 56:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, did I, I, did I never show you? Check this shit out.

• 56:39Joe Rogan?

  What you got?

• 56:40Speaker 01

  Um, hold on, let me show them.

• 56:43Joe Rogan?

  Are there any other ones that do it with a even bigger screen, like that, that kind of a deal? Like, what is the ultimate setup for, like, somebody like a, build gates?

• 56:51Speaker 04

  There's a, there's a, there's a new s- uh, like, the, for the F1 rig we have?

• 56:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 56:57Speaker 04

  There's a new screen that's come out, that's like a 100 and X6 even, I don't know.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  So tha- that's my shit right there.

• 57:03Joe Rogan?

  Ooh, oh, you got a dual monitor setup? Curved monitors?

• 57:08Speaker 01

  To, uh, the, super ultra wide.

• 57:10Joe Rogan?

  That's a problem.

• 57:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a problem.

• 57:14Joe Rogan?

  That's a problem.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is.

• 57:16Joe Rogan?

  Um, I'mma send this to me, send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie. Or do you have Jamie's number?

• 57:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know, I got Jamie's number.

• 57:23Joe Rogan?

  Send, send it to Jamie, cause that, that image is crazy, we need to show people that image. That's a problem. If I had that, that'd be a real problem.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  Um, Jamie, don't, I got your number, don't know.

• 57:33Joe Rogan?

  I do my best writing, like, when I get the most done, on my laptop, because I don't ever look at anything else on that laptop. The only time I use the internet at all is to check things, to like, find out if something's real. And even that, I don't use anymore, because I use perplexity for that now, I just talk into the, the phone. But, when, I, if you have that much distraction, like, two monitors like that? I'm, I would never leave, I would just be playing games all, it's too fun.

• 58:05Speaker 01

  It's, it's a, eh.

• 58:06Joe Rogan?

  It's too much.

• 58:06Speaker 01

  It's too much sometimes, it is, it is, and, uh.

• 58:10Joe Rogan?

  It's a, they're a fucking problem, man, games are a problem, cause they're so good.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  You know what it is, man, is it, it's a, it's a dopamine drip.

• 58:19Joe Rogan?

  Look at that, look at that setup. Bro, what's that thing on the right?

• 58:23Speaker 01

  Um, that is for controlling the sound. So, so, so basically like, uh, so say I'm in the, I'm in the chat, I'm in the Discord chat and, uh,

• 58:37Speaker 01

  and, and I got a YouTube video playing and I'm in the middle of a game, right?

• 58:41Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Then I don't, I can, I can reach over and turn down the volume of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly, or turn up the music and without having to open up anything on my.

• 58:53Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy. You are an addict.

• 58:57Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, you don't have that, do you?

• 58:59Speaker 04

  I was gonna show you mine. He's got, I have, I have way more than that.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, no, yeah, Jamie's out of control.

• 59:05Speaker 04

  I have, I have a soundboard played or connected into mine so I can fuck with people.

• 59:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's hilarious.

• 59:13Speaker 01

  Can you blur that top thing?

• 59:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, I will.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  It's got people's names.

• 59:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, I saw that, yeah, well. Yeah, but like I can record sound like live sound when someone's chatting and I can record their voice and play it back like instantly.

• 59:24Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing.

• 59:25Speaker 01

  This is me not streaming. I'm, I'm gonna start streaming this summer, so I'm gonna have to add a couple of things.

• 59:30Joe Rogan?

  So is he gonna start playing video games and streaming it?

• 59:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 59:32Joe Rogan?

  You can make a lot of money doing that.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  It's easy money, too.

• 59:35Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy, cause you're already gonna play games, right?

• 59:37Speaker 01

  I know some, I know some people that's like, they don't go on the road because they make so much money doing this.

• 59:40Joe Rogan?

  Wow, but the problem is, how long is that gonna last? Going on the road is forever.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  It's like, oh yeah, but you can always do that.

• 59:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you might not have an audience anymore.

• 59:49Speaker 01

  You have that audience.

• 59:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's true. But they'll be, they'll be still stuck on those video games.

• 59:53Speaker 01

  You ever, you ever had T-Pain on here?

• 59:55Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, T-Pain, he's one that like, he don't, he's like, yo, you gotta, you gotta offer me a lot of money, cause he still goes on the road, but it's like, you gotta pay him, cause he makes so, he's like, why would I leave, why would I take less money to leave my house?

• 1:00:07Joe Rogan?

  So he just streams?

• 1:00:08Speaker 01

  He streams, yeah.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  His setup he's got is fucking crazy.

• 1:00:11Speaker 01

  It's insane.

• 1:00:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 1:00:13Speaker 04

  He's like, we have one F1 setup, I think he bought six, uh, he's got, his whole studio's in one room, he's got the racing room over here, he's got, you know, the, the, I think probably four different rooms for different things.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  So. And he'll game, or he'll have on guests, or he'll just make a, he'll just make a song live in front of you.

• 1:00:31Speaker 04

  So it's just his like, normal live setup, he's got, he's got.

• 1:00:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 1:00:37Speaker 04

  Setups, he's got, he's got multiple screens around there.

• 1:00:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's crazy. So he has a whole room dedicated.

• 1:00:42Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  It's all wired together, too.

• 1:00:45Joe Rogan?

  And so when he's streaming, how is he making money?

• 1:00:49Speaker 01

  Sponsors, I think he, he's definitely a Twitch partner of some kind.

• 1:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Okay, so you, you get sponsors and like, how much you think he's making?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Fuck, I couldn't, I don't even, I mean, if I had to speculate?

• 1:01:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, speculate.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  I would say he's probably make, pulling in at least a quarter million a month or something like that, probably more than that.

• 1:01:11Joe Rogan?

  Just playing video games?

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  Just, just streaming, he don't even have to play video games, sometimes he just talking.

• 1:01:16Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy, well, there's a lot of that, right? A lot of streamers.

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, there's-

• 1:01:20Joe Rogan?

  Like, a lot of political streamers, they're just talking.

• 1:01:23Speaker 01

  There's different people that do different things, there's, there's, they call them IRL streamers, there's nuisance streamers.

• 1:01:28Joe Rogan?

  Nuisance?

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, they just walk around and-

• 1:01:30Joe Rogan?

  Just fuck with people?

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Fuck with people, yeah.

• 1:01:32Speaker 06

  We got two drift simulators, two circuit racing simulators, and one flight simulator down there in the end. So this is the VR room. The computer I play on is right here. Step down here.

• 1:01:43Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:01:44Speaker 06

  It's VR, we got sensors and roofs. This is the workshop. It was just a utility room, but I'm like, why not put 3D printers in there? This is-

• 1:01:51Joe Rogan?

  3D printers?

• 1:01:52Speaker 06

  As you can see, I took a lot of inspiration from Tron.

• 1:01:57Joe Rogan?

  That's amazing.

• 1:01:58Speaker 01

  And was, and he's, and he's married, though.

• 1:02:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but he's making money. His, his wife, how's his wife gonna complain? You wanna go shopping? Listen, lady, this is how we make the money for you to go shopping.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  You're right, you're right.

• 1:02:10Joe Rogan?

  You know, I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually earn money at. You know, my wife used to complain about the podcast before it started making money.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:02:17Joe Rogan?

  Well, she was like, you don't have to do that. I was like, I do, I have to do it. I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at X amount of, whatever, whatever time it was. But that's just always-

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  How long until you were like, I can fucking, this is making money?

• 1:02:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I never tried to make any money with it. I always did it for free. I did it for fun.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  For how many years?

• 1:02:39Joe Rogan?

  I didn't make money for years.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 1:02:42Joe Rogan?

  Zero money for years. I never even thought of it making money. It was just for fun. I would just have everybody come over, like Segura would come over, Eddie Bravo would come over, Joey would come over, Duncan, we would just talk shit and just have laughs. It was just for fun. We enjoyed the shit out of it. We had a vaporizer, this giant bag.

• 1:03:01Speaker 01

  Volcano?

• 1:03:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the volcano, oh my god, the thing was horrendous.

• 1:03:04Speaker 01

  I remember when them things first came out, they fucked a lot of people's world up.

• 1:03:08Joe Rogan?

  Fucked a lot of people, fucked our world up. There's a lot of podcasts in the early days that are unlistenable or watchable because we're just obliterated.

• 1:03:14Speaker 01

  And I, I thought it could never get past that. And now they got, you know, then they, then people came up with the dabs.

• 1:03:20Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Jelly Roll has this machine. It looks like a robot. It looks like a little, like a little Pokemon robot.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, wait a minute, is it that, cause Frank Castillo-

• 1:03:28Joe Rogan?

  Dab machine.

• 1:03:28Speaker 01

  Frank Castillo is one of the, he, he's like sponsored by those people.

• 1:03:31Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy, those things are crazy.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  What's it called, Peak, the Peak people, you know them all?

• 1:03:34Joe Rogan?

  I don't know if it's a peak.

• 1:03:35Speaker 01

  It looks like-

• 1:03:36Joe Rogan?

  It's a device, it scared me just looking at it.

• 1:03:38Speaker 01

  Can you look up the Peak Pro?

• 1:03:39Joe Rogan?

  It's big like this, uh, like this French press.

• 1:03:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, and listen, and every time I see Frank, they've come out with a new one. They have one that, they have one that's like a Sherlock Holmes pipe, it's all electronic, it's all for dabs. But every time, every time he visits me, he's like, hey, bro, check this shit out.

• 1:03:53Joe Rogan?

  People like him are the reason why weed still isn't legal.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Well, actually, I just raised something today that Trump is, Trump is making, um-

• 1:04:00Joe Rogan?

  It's schedule three now.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  Oh, he, oh, it's done?

• 1:04:03Joe Rogan?

  It's done.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  Weed?

• 1:04:04Joe Rogan?

  Weed is schedule three. So, schedule three, first of all, it should be right with alcohol. If you're 21, leave me the fuck alone.

• 1:04:12Speaker 01

  Well, wait, is it, what is, what schedule is alcohol?

• 1:04:14Joe Rogan?

  Alcohol is not scheduled, it's not a prohibitive substance. I don't think alcohol is scheduled like that. Alcohol for 21 and older is totally legal. So, schedule one, which is where weed was, which is so crazy.

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  It's like the most dangerous.

• 1:04:27Joe Rogan?

  It had no medicinal benefit, harm, addiction. Now, I won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand it the way other people understand it. I think it's highly genetic. I think addiction's very genetic because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive. I recently got off of, um, nicotine patches and I started taking Ultra Patches. Do you know what these are? Pouches, rather? They're, it's like nootropics, it's like vitamins, like brain, brain vitamins.

• 1:04:59Speaker 01

  Is there nicotine in there?

• 1:04:59Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no nicotine. Um, and when I started doing it, I was like, okay, I wonder if I'm gonna, like, I've been doing it, you wanna try one?

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:08Joe Rogan?

  That one's empty. Um, I just bought these off of Amazon. But, um, I was like, I've done it before when I went on vacation, like I didn't have them at all, and I didn't have any withdrawals. But then I talked to McCann, and McCann said that when he got off of them, it was like two weeks where he was like fucking super tense and yelling at people. No, no, no.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Oh, nicotine.

• 1:05:29Joe Rogan?

  Nicotine, pouches or cigarettes. He got off of all of it. Um, and then I hear, but so my point is, I think it's a biological thing. I don't think I have the biol- I, I get addicted to stuff. I get addicted to doing things. Like I got, I used to be addicted to video games. I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing. I get addicted to pool. I get addicted to martial arts. I get addicted to doing stuff. I get addicted to archery. But I don't think I get addicted. I probably would if it was like oxies or something like that. I get, I think that's just too strong. That would just get me.

• 1:06:03Speaker 01

  I think I'm too much of a control freak to get addicted to any kind of hard.

• 1:06:07Joe Rogan?

  Well, you quit cigarettes like that.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you know what? You know why it was easy? It's because I had a heart attack.

• 1:06:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but the heart attack did it for you.

• 1:06:13Speaker 01

  It did, and, and I already felt like shit, so I didn't go, I didn't, the withdrawals were nothing.

• 1:06:19Joe Rogan?

  Um, I'm gonna send you something, uh, Jamie. This is kinda crazy, but, uh, I sent this to Tom Segura. I said, it's time to start smoking again. Cause there's this guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet. That there's some sort of a, an actual benefit to cigarette smoking. Because one of the things about these blue zones where people like live forever, a lot of these people that are like living that are really old, they smoke cigarettes.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what shook me the fuck out. Like, you know, every time they, every time they go, this is the oldest person alive. They a hundred and nine, right?

• 1:06:51Joe Rogan?

  And they smoke.

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  And then they ask them, they go, what's your secret? They go, uh, smoke. I drink fire water and...

• 1:06:58Joe Rogan?

  So, listen to this. Smoking is good for them. Top heart surgeons claim is breaking the internet. Clip is exploding after cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Steven Gundry made a claim that's turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down. His argument is smoking, specifically nicotine, can have real benefits when paired with the right lifestyle. At one point even says about a patient... Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well. Points to long living populations where heavy smoking is common. Claims that a part of Sardinia, 95% of men smoke and live longer than the women. Says nicotine acts as a powerful mitochondrial uncoupler. Argues that the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet. And suggests that we've been looking at it completely backwards.

• 1:07:44Joe Rogan?

  According to him, the real question isn't why smoking harms people. It's why some smokers live longer and what we're missing. So, there's a video in here. Listen to him talk about it, cuz it's...

• 1:07:55Speaker 04

  It's eight minutes long.

• 1:07:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but just play a little bit of it, cuz it's kinda interesting. Credit to Dr. Mike on YouTube.

• 1:08:04Speaker 06

  Been smoking for 45 years and they're living a healthy life and they say, "It's cuz I smoke." And obviously, we laugh about it cuz we all agree that it's not true. So, why did this one case move you so? Actually, let me stop you right there. Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well. Okay, we need to back up. How do we get there? Uh, well, I have a whole chapter in Gut Check, looking at the healthiest, longest living people. And one of the unique features of most of the blue zones is that, particularly the men, are heavy smokers. And the smoking, actually, the nicotine in cigarettes, is one of the best mitochondrial uncouplers that's ever been discovered.

• 1:08:47Speaker 06

  And we've looked at this through the wrong lens. We said, "Wow, what other healthy lifestyle things are these guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them?" In fact, we should've looked at it the other way. What is it about these people who are smokers that allows them to live to 105, 110 years old? And when you do that, then you say, "Okay, smoking was good for them. Why don't we see the oxidative stress that smoking, we all know, occurs? Why don't we see the cancers in these people?" And it's because the rest of their diet facilitates the absorption of the oxidative stress in these guys.

• 1:09:27Speaker 06

  So, your state is that if you smoke but eat in this specific way, you can negate the effects of smoking, the negative effects of smoking? Yeah, what's fascinating, as a heart surgeon, way back in the good old days, most of our patients were smokers. And they had specific proximal lesions in their coronary arteries. The rest of their blood...

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  vessels were absolutely gorgeous and they were skinny for the most part.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  So how did you gauge that? Did you?

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  What do you mean? We operate on.

• 1:09:58Speaker 00

  But you operate on what other vessels that you saw like you would do peripheral arterial disease screenings on those patients and you would find.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  I used to operate on.

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  Because one of the number one risk factors for peripheral arterial disease is smoking.

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  Correct, because the smoking, the oxidative stress isn't isn't stopped by our current diet. Let me give you an example.

• 1:10:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:10:25Speaker 01

  We're one of the few animals that don't make vitamin C and vitamin C and I've written about this. So.

• 1:10:35Joe Rogan?

  We get it.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  I mean, he's.

• 1:10:38Joe Rogan?

  Send people to Dr. Mike's YouTube channel for the rest of it, but.

• 1:10:41Speaker 01

  Dr. Mike wasn't having it.

• 1:10:43Joe Rogan?

  Well, he didn't know. I mean, this guy's the expert and this guy lays it and Dr. Mike's open minded. He's probably what he's saying is making sense.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  It made sense to me.

• 1:10:52Joe Rogan?

  It's the poor diet.

• 1:10:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's why I was I was hoping that video would give me hope, but I'm like, bro, I could if I could change my diet, I wouldn't have had the heart attack.

• 1:11:03Speaker 01

  Oh, so I'm gonna have I'm gonna get this perfect diet so I can smoke.

• 1:11:07Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it's a perfect diet. I think you just got to move to Italy. But whenever I whenever I go there on vacation, I'm like, why am I trying so hard? What am I doing? How come I'm not just chilling?

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  Well, you know, that's the thing about Italy is they have a they have a culture of chilling.

• 1:11:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Their culture, I forget what they call it, but is it siesta?

• 1:11:27Joe Rogan?

  No, that's Mexicans. They call it like that nap they take during the middle of the day.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I mean. No, no, no, it's it's a Spanish thing, too.

• 1:11:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:11:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They but they I didn't know they did it.

• 1:11:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, obviously it's Spanish word, right?

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, I didn't know they did it in Mexico, but.

• 1:11:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's a Mexican thing.

• 1:11:42Speaker 01

  The Spanish are like, nah, the middle of the afternoon, everybody napping.

• 1:11:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, my friend went to the Ferrari factory in Italy and he said, dude, it's hilarious. He goes, they barely work. He goes, they like, the reason why it takes so long to get a Ferrari? He goes like, these motherfuckers are just chilling. And he goes, they take these big, long, oh, it's Lamborghini. Yeah, he said they take these big, long breaks for lunch. They eat pasta and they drink wine and they lay down. They take like a couple hours for lunch and they work a few more hours and then they go home.

• 1:12:11Speaker 01

  They gotta figure it out.

• 1:12:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think we work too much, you know? And this is coming from someone who works too much, but I work too much at things I love. It's a different thing, I think, than, uh, most people. Most people are working too much, it's something that's just making them money and they're probably stressed out all the time, don't enjoy it. But I think if you are working less and just having more enjoyment in life, what are we here for?

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  See, that's why I'm, that's, I think, subconsciously, that's why I've been avoiding streaming. I've been talking about it for years, cause I'm like, if I start making money.

• 1:12:44Joe Rogan?

  Right, and then it becomes a job.

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  Bro, I'm gonna be like that, you know that fat kid in the chair in Wally, you ever see that movie?

• 1:12:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:51Speaker 01

  I'm gonna transform into that.

• 1:12:53Joe Rogan?

  Just Uber Eats.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:55Joe Rogan?

  Uber Eats, just millions of dollars just eating and laying there.

• 1:12:59Speaker 01

  Everybody laughing to the death point.

• 1:13:00Joe Rogan?

  And no exercise at all.

• 1:13:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, the more you stream, the more you make, right? So, there's people that stream more than eight hours a day, don't they?

• 1:13:09Speaker 01

  I mean theoretically, yeah, but some people stream a lot and they don't make shit, you know?

• 1:13:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but that's also podcasting. There's a lot of people that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money.

• 1:13:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, yeah, they, but you, you gotta stream to make money, you gotta be on.

• 1:13:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's a very specific type of audience too, though. It's people that are watching streams, very different audience than who's watching podcasts, I would imagine.

• 1:13:31Speaker 01

  That's hard to say.

• 1:13:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:34Speaker 01

  It's hard to say, yeah, cause I think, uh, I, I don't know if those, there's probably a lot of overlap in those audiences.

• 1:13:40Joe Rogan?

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• 1:14:25Joe Rogan?

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• 1:15:07Joe Rogan?

  Most stuff falls off, but I am still taking this. If you want to try, Armra is offering my listeners 30% off. Go to armra.com/rogan. So I don't, what we were talking about before with the smoking, I don't think smoking is good for your lungs. I think it's bad for your lungs because everybody know that quit smoking, they say their cardio gets better.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  This stuff, this, that interview you, or we shared, came out two years ago.

• 1:15:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, did it?

• 1:15:32Speaker 04

  And there was some controversy around it and.

• 1:15:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, clearly.

• 1:15:35Speaker 01

  What is a, what is a blue zone?

• 1:15:37Speaker 04

  Well, that, that doctor.

• 1:15:38Joe Rogan?

  It's places where people live longer.

• 1:15:39Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 1:15:40Joe Rogan?

  Uh, okay. So here what it says, uh, key details regarding Dr. Gundry's statements. Controversial claims in a conversation with Dr. Mike, Gundry suggested smoking could be linked to longer life, observing that some long-lived individuals in blue zone smoke. Mechanism theory, Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncoupler and that a high polyphenol diet may mitigate the negative effects of cigarette smoke. Criticism, experts strongly disagree, noting that smoking is a leading cause of premature death and that any potential benefits are far outweighed by risks. Right, but they're not taking into consideration what he said about food. Uh, despite the headlines, Gunley stated he does not smoke and does not encourage others to do so. So he's just a scientist relaying research.

• 1:16:23Speaker 01

  Yeah. So what are the critics strongly disagreeing with?

• 1:16:25Joe Rogan?

  They said they're not, they're not making any. Because they're disagreeing, but they're not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high polyphenol diet mitigating the negative effects of smoking.

• 1:16:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, that's all he said was what he observed.

• 1:16:37Joe Rogan?

  This is what I think in my years of trying and using nicotine. Um, I think there's something to nicotine. The reason why I am backing off of it is it fucks up my pool game.

• 1:16:49Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:16:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, nicotine gives you a lot of energy and I think like these like these Alps. These are like six milligrams and then there's Lucy's. I have Lucy's that are 12, but you put them in your mouth like you're sucking on a battery. It's like, it's so strong, it's ridiculous. Um, they make you jittery and jittery is not good for pool. Pool is a chill game. Pool is like you're concentrating, but you want to be completely calm when you're stroking the ball. Like your hand, you're barely holding on to that cue. I hold on to cue like I'm holding a baby bird. You know, it's very calm. You don't want to be like, you know, so a lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool.

• 1:17:26Speaker 01

  Word?

• 1:17:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but nicotine in particular, which is interesting because I know a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well. Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of like how it affects your body than. Oh, you see, that's a good question. How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus like one of these Alp pouches? These Alp pouches is Tucker Carlson's company.

• 1:17:52Speaker 01

  It's probably also has to do with like your level of addiction. Like some people are.

• 1:17:55Joe Rogan?

  Fully, yeah, they, some people smoke all day.

• 1:17:58Speaker 01

  They need cigarettes just to be back to zero.

• 1:17:59Joe Rogan?

  John Mellencamp, he was in here, that dude just, that was like one of the big things. Like, can I smoke during the podcast? I'm like, absolutely, no worries. I go, we got a fan, we smoke cigars all the time. So he just chain smoked the entire podcast and he said, find what you love and let it kill you. That's what he said about cigarette smoking.

• 1:18:16Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, that's a, who's that, who's that quote from?

• 1:18:19Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. Uh, typical nicotine amounts, okay. Standard factory made cigarette usually contains about 10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine. And tobacco, which an average smoker absorbs around one to two milligrams when smoking it. Nicotine pouches are sold in strengths that commonly range from two milligrams up to 12. Or more of nicotine per pouch. CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine. Pouches that with six milligrams nicotine or less were most common. But higher strength eight milligram pouches have been growing quickly. Yeah, because people are getting addicted. Cigarettes deliver nicotine to the brain very fast, within 10 to 20 seconds after inhalation, which makes them highly reinforcing and strongly addictive.

• 1:19:04Joe Rogan?

  Pouches release nicotine through the lining of the mouth. So the rise in blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with a cigarette hit. Though total absorbed dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength or how long the pouch is used. The thing about like pouches is people just keep popping them. Like Shane, that dude just pops them every 10 minutes. He's popping six milligrams like every 10 minutes. Combustible cigarettes clearly more harmful overall because smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals, many toxic and carcinogenic. Whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an addictive drug with cardiovascular effects.

• 1:19:41Speaker 01

  That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are.

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was the most addictive version of that that I tried was vaping. Those like Escobar things, those are weird. Here's another weird thing about those vaping ones. The only good hit is the first hit. Maybe the second.

• 1:20:05Speaker 01

  Have you seen how vapors, have you seen how vapors act when they can't find their vape?

• 1:20:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they freak out.

• 1:20:09Speaker 01

  It is.

• 1:20:11Joe Rogan?

  They get sketchy.

• 1:20:11Speaker 01

  It's crazy. They get crazy. I saw, I was in DC last year and I popped in on this comedy spot. And I go, and I go to the bathroom and there's a vape sitting on the sink. Like somebody put a vape there to wash their hands or something. And I go out to the bar. And I remember all the com- I remember I bought the, I bought the comics, like the comics are at the bar waiting to go up and I bought a round for the comics. And one of them was like, oh, thanks, man. Got up, went to the bathroom, came back, sat next to his friend and was like, oh, bro, I found this vape in there. And they both hit this vape. So they went, he took a vape out the bathroom.

• 1:20:52Joe Rogan?

  That somebody else was just sucking on, some guy who could have been eating ass just twenty minutes ago.

• 1:20:55Speaker 01

  Right. Also, it was on the sink in the back, in the men's room at a comedy club.

• 1:21:00Joe Rogan?

  Ugh.

• 1:21:01Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 1:21:01Joe Rogan?

  Hey, I found it. Let's take hits off of it. That's crazy.

• 1:21:05Speaker 01

  It would be tough if that was my vape and I set it on the counter and I'm like, oh shit. That's probably what happened. Somebody set it there out of reflex and was like, I don't want that shit. It's been, it's, it's right here with all this filthy.

• 1:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Maybe, or maybe they're like, I gotta leave this thing here.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

  This men's, men's room sink water? Nah, you could keep that. You could keep that.

• 1:21:24Joe Rogan?

  Ugh. These guys are just sucking on it at the bar. But I guess if you dip it in whiskey, it'd be all right. Just dip it in your glass before you take a hit.

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  Bro, you could just wait till, you could just wait till you get to your vape, because it's not, like, you got one.

• 1:21:36Joe Rogan?

  The, the first hit is the only one that's good. The first hit is like euphoric. The first hit of like a Escobar, you're like this, like.

• 1:21:45Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:21:46Joe Rogan?

  Everything's amazing. But that, you don't get that with a second hit. It doesn't like maintain. After a while, you're just taking hits and you just feel nervous. Like, this is terrible. This doesn't feel good. But it's the first hit. The first hit's wonderful.

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  You know how many, you know how many vapors I've had to curse out because they unplug my phone?

• 1:22:02Joe Rogan?

  Nah, they're plugging their stupid fucking mate.

• 1:22:04Speaker 01

  They're like, yo, what, yo, you was at thirty percent.

• 1:22:08Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck is wrong with you? I need it all day.

• 1:22:10Speaker 01

  Right. Don't unplug my shit.

• 1:22:12Joe Rogan?

  Junkies.

• 1:22:13Speaker 01

  They really are, man.

• 1:22:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're junkies. I see people hit them all the time. And they, they, they hit them like a fiend.

• 1:22:18Speaker 01

  And, and you know the worst thing is the people that they try to start vaping. Like to replace smoking. They just end up doing both.

• 1:22:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think the vaping is more addictive than smoking.

• 1:22:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, cuz you can, you know why? It's cuz one, like you said, I think the, the, you're getting delivered more nicotine than, than a smoker will get, even though, uh, look, smoking has other bad shit that you're putting in you. You know, but in terms of addiction is what I'm saying. I'm not saying vaping is worse for you, but, but you're getting more nicotine and you can, you can vape in places you can't smoke.

• 1:22:54Joe Rogan?

  And on top of that, you're getting all these weird oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good for you.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  But you, but you can vape anytime.

• 1:23:02Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:23:03Speaker 01

  You can vape, you can.

• 1:23:03Joe Rogan?

  But you know, like, people are getting these new diseases, like popcorn lung. Have you heard of that?

• 1:23:07Speaker 01

  I heard of that, but I ain't heard of nobody that got it. I've heard like, you know, it, it's one of those like, uh, uh, what do you call them? Urban myths or?

• 1:23:15Joe Rogan?

  There's a kid that I knew back in California. He was one of, uh, one of the people in our neighborhood's child. And he was nineteen and he was in college and he was vaping like crazy. He was vaping all day long and he got pneumonia and wound up dying.

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:23:31Joe Rogan?

  And they connected it to the vape, like he had destroyed his lungs. The kids are damaging their lungs.

• 1:23:36Speaker 01

  But you know, I think that started back when, you remember when some people have like the adjustable ones? Where like you, where like.

• 1:23:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the big ones?

• 1:23:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:23:43Joe Rogan?

  Crazy ones.

• 1:23:43Speaker 01

  Cuz now the popular ones are like the disposable ones.

• 1:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Adam Curry has one of them, big jammies.

• 1:23:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, one of them big rigs.

• 1:23:49Joe Rogan?

  Like a lunchbox.

• 1:23:49Speaker 01

  I think people were going crazy back then, like in the beginning of it, when, when nobody knew a lot.

• 1:23:54Joe Rogan?

  The real vapors, man, they still go crazy. But they're, they're doing it themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting like their own like nicotine drops. They're putting it in the thing and they're putting their own oil. They're using like MCT oil cuz it's healthy.

• 1:24:07Speaker 01

  This organic poison.

• 1:24:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, whereas like, if you're getting it from a factory in China or Vietnam, have you ever seen that one? There's one video of a dude who has to test every vape when it comes out of the factory.

• 1:24:17Speaker 01

  With his, with his mouth?

• 1:24:18Joe Rogan?

  With his mouth. The ones you get have already been sucked on. So this dude is just suck, in Vietnam, just, I don't know where he is. He might be in Laos. He's just sucking, just wherever this vape factory is, this dude's just sucking on this vape over and over and over again. Everybody's vape, he sucks on once to make sure it's good before he sends it out.

• 1:24:37Speaker 01

  Bro, we're doomed.

• 1:24:38Joe Rogan?

  So this guy's got, what is his dose of caffeine in a day? It must be off the charts.

• 1:24:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that's the other thing. I think vapors are more addicted because they get more nicotine. They just get to do it. They just do it all the time.

• 1:24:50Joe Rogan?

  You could definitely do it, but I'm telling you, it's like, you don't get the good feeling. Like, it's weird. It's weird. Like a cigar, like the relaxation, the good nicotine feeling of a cigar. You get that like every time you take a hit out of a cigar. That's not the case with a vape, at least not for me. Look at this dude. He's sucking on every one of these, checking them out. Look. That's nuts. They gotta make sure they're good. Like, how vaped out is this cat?

• 1:25:20Speaker 01

  That's probably how they, that's probably what he gets paid in just vapes, just smoke?

• 1:25:26Joe Rogan?

  I mean, how many fucking thousands of vapes is this kid sucking on in a day? How many do you test in a day, he says? Around seven to eight thousand tests per day.

• 1:25:37Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ.

• 1:25:39Joe Rogan?

  Does that dude sleep at all? He probably dreams in like horrible black and white, like lightning bolts and.

• 1:25:46Speaker 01

  He also smokes after work.

• 1:25:48Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Someone should see how long that guy lives.

• 1:25:52Speaker 01

  Bro, that boy's autism is done.

• 1:25:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's not in the blue zone.

• 1:25:57Speaker 01

  Oh, bro.

• 1:26:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:02Speaker 04

  It's older, it's, it's developed, according to this. It came around two thousand when people at a actual popcorn factory.

• 1:26:10Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:26:11Speaker 04

  Were exposed to a chemical that was causing.

• 1:26:13Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:26:14Speaker 04

  Called broncholitis obliterans.

• 1:26:16Joe Rogan?

  Bro, look at this. It's first recognized from clusters of workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter-flavoring chemical. Diacetal. Wow, I thought it made your lungs look like popcorn.

• 1:26:29Speaker 04

  This is saying there's like, it's very, it's super rare for outside of that actually, though.

• 1:26:34Joe Rogan?

  Uh, Cancer Research's UK states that there have been no confirmed cases of popcorn lung specifically caused by e-cigarettes, although some older e-liquids contained diacetal before regulations tightened. Do you think that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes?

• 1:26:50Speaker 01

  No, no, they, no, I think they invested in that shit.

• 1:26:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but if they don't, like, what if it's like some companies maybe don't? And they're worried that these cheap vapes.

• 1:26:59Speaker 01

  Well, there's only, there's only, there's only three companies. The big tobacco is really big tobacco.

• 1:27:03Joe Rogan?

  So it's RJ Reynolds. What are the other ones?

• 1:27:07Speaker 01

  Philip Morris, or is it Philip Morris? And then there's a, and then there's a overseas one. Maybe there's four companies.

• 1:27:12Joe Rogan?

  Who's making the American Spirits?

• 1:27:16Speaker 01

  It's the same people.

• 1:27:17Joe Rogan?

  It's the same people?

• 1:27:17Speaker 01

  It's, there's only three or four big tobacco companies.

• 1:27:20Joe Rogan?

  This lady Suzanne Humphries, who's a doctor, she, she was making the argument that those cigarettes are probably not even that bad for you.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  And, and they own, and they see the writing on the wall. Like, they own all the pa, all the patch companies?

• 1:27:31Joe Rogan?

  Of course, of course, why wouldn't they?

• 1:27:33Speaker 01

  Cause the writings on the wall, they start, they, they, they were talking about it in Canada, and now I think they're trying to do it in the UK, where basically like, people of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes.

• 1:27:43Joe Rogan?

  They, yeah, they, I think they're doing that in Canada right now. Or, or in, they're definitely doing that in the UK, that's right. Uh, no, American Spirits cigarettes are not safer than other cigarettes. Despite marketing that highlights natural and addictive-free tobacco, studies show they contain similar levels of toxic, cancer-causing chemicals as other brands. Research suggests they may even be more addictive due to higher nicotine levels. No reduced harm, no evidence of the absence of additives makes cigarette smokes less harmful. On high nicotine addicts, studies have found that many varieties have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands suggesting higher addictiveness, misleading marketing. FDA previously required the manufacturers to stop using

• 1:28:25Joe Rogan?

  "natural" and "additive-free" in marketing, as these terms falsely implied lower risk. Why does that imply lower risk if you say additive-free? Consumer misconception, sixty-four percent of American Spirits smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful, often because of their natural branding. This lady, this doctor was making that argument. She was saying the chemicals that they add to cigarettes that make them more addictive. Like, remember that Russell Crowe movie, The Insider? You remember that movie?

• 1:28:53Speaker 01

  Mm-mm.

• 1:28:53Joe Rogan?

  Good movie. So, but got, about a guy who is a, true story, about a guy who's a doctor who works at a tobacco company that makes cigarettes. And he's specifically formulating these chemicals in order to make people way more addicted. And then he has to go to court, and they try to kill him, it's like, you know, big kind of whistleblower-type drama.

• 1:29:14Joe Rogan?

  But that was that was the premise of that film, which is also based on real life. And what she's saying is that those chemicals that make you more addictive are probably much more dangerous. And that just the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous. She wasn't definitively stating this, she was just saying that most likely, they're probably safer for you.

• 1:29:35Speaker 01

  Well, the American Spirit ones, also, you smoke less, because they take forever to smoke. So every time I'm I was smoking around an American Spirit smoker, you know, you'll you'll see a damn three quarters of a cigarette left in the ashtray.

• 1:29:49Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that those, like Marlboros and shit like that, like they they smoke quicker on purpose so that you smoke more of them?

• 1:29:56Speaker 01

  I think they they're they're.

• 1:29:58Joe Rogan?

  Probably gunpowder in there.

• 1:29:59Speaker 01

  Something they add to them, make them.

• 1:30:00Joe Rogan?

  Make a bird faster.

• 1:30:01Speaker 01

  Because that's the thing with American Spirit, you sit it down, it'll it'll go out.

• 1:30:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:30:05Speaker 01

  But if you if I if I was to light a Marlboro and sit it down there, it'll it will burn all the way up.

• 1:30:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:30:10Speaker 01

  I think they do that so you waste cigarettes.

• 1:30:12Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense.

• 1:30:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 1:30:14Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense. Yeah, because they probably calculate over time how much money that would be.

• 1:30:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, in fact, I I read somewhere like that is why there are twenty packs in a cigarette, twenty cigarettes in a pack is because they they discovered

• 1:30:29Speaker 01

  that that's exactly how many you needed to smoke as much as possible in one day. Like in terms of how long the how long it's in your system, and when you start getting another craving, you can smoke.

• 1:30:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's crazy, because some people smoke two packs a day, three packs a day.

• 1:30:42Speaker 01

  Those people are like old animals. How are they alive? I don't know, but I was getting close.

• 1:30:48Joe Rogan?

  Where were you at?

• 1:30:49Speaker 01

  I was at a little over, like I was at a little over a pack a day, where I would smoke a whole, I would go through a whole pack.

• 1:30:56Joe Rogan?

  And then tip into the next pack.

• 1:30:58Speaker 01

  Dip into the next, yeah.

• 1:31:00Joe Rogan?

  It makes sense that they would buy patches. Why wouldn't they? And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives, like gum, Nicorette, all that shit?

• 1:31:08Speaker 01

  Years ago, the VA tried to get me to quit, and they they they prescribed me the patches.

• 1:31:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:14Speaker 01

  But. Like you, like that's, like that said, it's like, there's, there's twelve to fourteen milligrams in a cigarette, but you only end up getting one or two.

• 1:31:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:31:23Speaker 01

  But the patch is five, the lowest, the lowest step of the patch is five.

• 1:31:27Joe Rogan?

  And do you feel it?

• 1:31:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, you, you have crazy fucking dreams too.

• 1:31:31Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:31:31Speaker 01

  You put one of them patches on before you go to bed, you gonna, you gonna have a fucking crazy dream, and now you're more addicted.

• 1:31:39Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 1:31:39Speaker 01

  Right, cuz, cuz you're not used to getting five. Now you getting five all night, you wake up like, oh shit, like you're not getting, you're not used to getting nicotine all night.

• 1:31:47Joe Rogan?

  Ron White used to wear a patch and smoke all day.

• 1:31:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, that, that's what I was about to tell you, it's like, everybody I knew that got on the patches was patching and smoking.

• 1:31:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Ron was patching and smoking, and then one hypnotism session, quit, everything, cold turkey.

• 1:32:01Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:32:02Joe Rogan?

  Yep.

• 1:32:02Speaker 01

  That's weird, cuz he don't seem very suggestible.

• 1:32:04Joe Rogan?

  I know, right?

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind about nothing.

• 1:32:09Joe Rogan?

  About nothing, ever, all the arguments that he's had with Tony in the green room?

• 1:32:13Speaker 01

  I live for that shit.

• 1:32:16Speaker 01

  I live for those moments.

• 1:32:17Joe Rogan?

  It is hilarious, Ron digs his heels in.

• 1:32:20Speaker 01

  Soon as I hear Ron go, well, well.

• 1:32:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:23Speaker 01

  I already know.

• 1:32:24Joe Rogan?

  That's not my experience.

• 1:32:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:26Joe Rogan?

  He was wearing the patch, and he was smoking those little cigars, you know those little cigars?

• 1:32:31Speaker 01

  Mm.

• 1:32:32Joe Rogan?

  He was smoking them like cigarettes. You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers, like those little suckers have way more nicotine. You know those little tiny Monte Cristos, those little things, you're supposed to smoke those like a cigar. Like, when I smoke them, I try to smoke them like a cigar, you take, you hold it in your, it's a tiny cigar.

• 1:32:49Speaker 01

  You can't tell these Texas gentlemen.

• 1:32:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:53Speaker 01

  Not to smoke nothing.

• 1:32:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, Ron has got amazing willpower, because he, he got off the alcohol and just done, never touched it again. Got off the cigarettes, done, never touched them again.

• 1:33:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love that guy.

• 1:33:06Joe Rogan?

  He's the best, he's the best, but it's like, that ability to just turn something off like that. The amount of mon- how much money, let's, let's look into that. How much money is in the nicotine business overall in America? It's probably way more now with pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes.

• 1:33:26Speaker 01

  I think it's less now.

• 1:33:27Joe Rogan?

  But I bet the thing, cigarettes probably been less. But now so many people are on the pouches and so many people are vaping.

• 1:33:34Speaker 01

  Well, that, well, that, well, the thing is, I think there's, I think there's less money overall. But, but that's why there's less companies, because they keep getting bought.

• 1:33:43Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:33:44Speaker 01

  Right, because people are smoking less, like kid, the kids are smoking way less.

• 1:33:47Joe Rogan?

  Cigarettes.

• 1:33:48Speaker 01

  Way less cigarettes and they, they, they don't vape as much as we think.

• 1:33:52Joe Rogan?

  But I think there are a lot of them are on the zins, a lot of them are on pouches. Let's guess, what do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine? Nicotine products in America? The collective amount of money that nicotine products in America generate every year?

• 1:34:10Speaker 01

  I'm gonna say 10 billion.

• 1:34:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that sounds about right.

• 1:34:14Speaker 01

  Less, it's less than 10 billion.

• 1:34:16Joe Rogan?

  For the whole country, I'll say six. Let's say 6 billion, because there's 350 million people plus Mexicans.

• 1:34:22Speaker 04

  That's just for the, uh, oral nicotine.

• 1:34:26Joe Rogan?

  Is how much?

• 1:34:27Speaker 04

  Six.

• 1:34:27Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 1:34:28Speaker 04

  Cigarettes is way higher.

• 1:34:32Joe Rogan?

  What is cigarettes?

• 1:34:33Speaker 04

  Seventy-six.

• 1:34:34Speaker 01

  Seventy-six billion?

• 1:34:35Speaker 04

  Billion.

• 1:34:36Speaker 01

  Oh shit, that's more than sports.

• 1:34:39Joe Rogan?

  Bro, that's crazy!

• 1:34:41Speaker 01

  More than football.

• 1:34:42Speaker 04

  It's cigarettes and traditional tobacco, which would include-

• 1:34:45Joe Rogan?

  Like cigars?

• 1:34:45Speaker 04

  Cigars and, uh, like, uh, um, the, speaking of which, hookahs and stuff.

• 1:34:50Speaker 01

  But, okay, but what, what, what was it 20 years ago?

• 1:34:54Speaker 04

  Um-

• 1:34:54Speaker 01

  Was it higher, was it higher or lower?

• 1:34:55Speaker 04

  It doesn't have 20 years ago from what I looked, but it does, it has grown. It's growing slowly every year. It's a total of 100 billion when you include everything together.

• 1:35:04Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:35:05Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, but it isn't really crazy, because it's one of the, it's one of the lea- it's one of the legal and socially acceptable drugs to be on all day. Yeah, you can smoke it, because you can't even drink at work.

• 1:35:17Joe Rogan?

  Especially if you use pouches now, everybody's using pouches.

• 1:35:20Speaker 04

  They're predicting the pouches are gonna go from around- Four to six billion now and by 2030, so it's only five to six years from now could get up to 50 billion.

• 1:35:31Joe Rogan?

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• 1:37:44Joe Rogan?

  He was at a really hard time, like getting his synapses to fire the same way. So it was really noticeable, the difference in quitting nicotine. But then again, his best shit he wrote when he was on coke. He was doing coke and drinking beer.

• 1:37:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:59Joe Rogan?

  And he wrote his best, craziest shit when he was doing that.

• 1:38:02Speaker 01

  No, but I'm gonna be honest about that, though, like, I do feel less creative. Or less, not less creative, but less...

• 1:38:15Speaker 01

  I don't know, it does feel like, it feels like my brain is working different.

• 1:38:19Joe Rogan?

  What about cigars? You ever thought about cigars? Or you just like think it's too much of a gateway?

• 1:38:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I will be right back on it. I'll be right back on it. Maybe we, can we get some, are there nicotine drops, Jamie? You can just shoot it into your fucking eyeballs?

• 1:38:34Joe Rogan?

  You fuck with the pouches at all? Or do you worry that the pouches will bring you closer to the cigarettes?

• 1:38:38Speaker 01

  No, but I've never fucked with the pouches. I don't know.

• 1:38:40Joe Rogan?

  You wanna try one?

• 1:38:41Speaker 01

  Aren't I trying one? This doesn't have nicotine in it.

• 1:38:43Joe Rogan?

  That is no nicotine. That's an ultra pouch.

• 1:38:47Joe Rogan?

  Don't do it. No, no, no.

• 1:38:49Speaker 01

  Maybe the gum. Maybe I'll try the gum.

• 1:38:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've tried the gum. I like pouches.

• 1:38:53Speaker 01

  How's that?

• 1:38:54Joe Rogan?

  I like pouches better. It's interesting that, like, they would probably, I wonder how much money is spent? Okay, what is the patch, what's the patch worth? Like, how much does that generate?

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  You know what's wild? They were trying to give me nicotine in the hospital.

• 1:39:11Joe Rogan?

  For what?

• 1:39:12Speaker 01

  Because they knew I was a smoker, and they were like, "You don't, you don't want any?" I was like, "No!"

• 1:39:17Joe Rogan?

  How were they trying to give it to you? In what way?

• 1:39:18Speaker 01

  I don't know if it was a pouch or a gum, but...

• 1:39:21Joe Rogan?

  They have mints, too.

• 1:39:21Speaker 01

  It had been prescribed to me, and it was just sitting there. And, you know, and every time a shift changed, somebody would run at me, "Hey, so you know you got some, you know you got some shizra?" I was like, "No, I'm okay."

• 1:39:31Joe Rogan?

  Somebody sent me some nicotine mints, and they made me nervous. Like, I didn't like them. They made me feel uncomfortable. Okay, nicotine patches are a tiny slice of the nicotine economy in the US. They amount to at most a few hundred million dollars per year versus tens of billions for cigarettes and other nicotine products.

• 1:39:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you know what? The reason they, the reason they still invest in them is because... Every time you try to quit and you use the pouches, when you come back, you're more addicted.

• 1:39:55Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 1:39:56Speaker 01

  So it's just, it's a cycle.

• 1:39:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's insurance that you'll get back on the cigarettes.

• 1:40:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz I bet you they're not, they probably don't track how many people.

• 1:40:05Joe Rogan?

  What's so funny, Jan?

• 1:40:05Speaker 04

  Nicotine replacement.

• 1:40:07Joe Rogan?

  Therapy?

• 1:40:08Speaker 04

  Therapy.

• 1:40:09Joe Rogan?

  The global nicotine replacement therapy market, patches, gum, lozenges, etc., is around 3.1 billion. Therapy.

• 1:40:16Speaker 04

  Just reading that in this room.

• 1:40:17Joe Rogan?

  I know, it's silly.

• 1:40:19Speaker 04

  Weird conspiracy or something like.

• 1:40:20Joe Rogan?

  Predicted to reach 4.7 billion US dollars by 2034. But it makes sense that they would invest in that, like, it's out of, you know. Why wouldn't they? It's like, they're smart business people, you know?

• 1:40:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:36Joe Rogan?

  Did you hear about that special forces soldier that got in trouble because he bet on Polymarket that Maduro was going to be kidnapped?

• 1:40:46Speaker 01

  Oh, they found out who it was?

• 1:40:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they caught the dude.

• 1:40:49Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

• 1:40:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he made four, I believe he made $400,000, and he tried to cover his tracks.

• 1:40:55Speaker 01

  Oh, I thought it was like Trump's son or something. People thought it was, assumed it was Don Jr.

• 1:41:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, who knows what they've done?

• 1:41:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:41:03Joe Rogan?

  I mean, they're probably not looking at them the same way they're looking at these special forces.

• 1:41:07Speaker 01

  Your boy Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table. He's like, I need all this bread. I'm on the way out. I still need this bread.

• 1:41:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, think about that, the coin, the Trump coin. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's legal, but it's cra- Melania coin, like.

• 1:41:22Speaker 01

  If you, if you buying any celebrities' coins, you deserve to lose your money.

• 1:41:26Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, but I think it, like, Metzger explained it to me. He goes, these are gambling addicts. They're gambling. He goes, they know, they know that it's gonna crash. No one's under any illusion this is gonna last forever. They try to get in and get out and make money while they're doing it. It's like they just figure out when to buy and when to sell.

• 1:41:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, but there are people that think that, you know, those are, those are the suckers. Those are who you're getting money from. It's the ones that think it.

• 1:41:49Joe Rogan?

  You could look at it that way.

• 1:41:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:50Joe Rogan?

  Or you could look at it as this is an effective way to pay people off. Legally, so here's the thing, I'm not accusing anybody of doing this, but I'm saying, let's say if I started a JRE coin. And maybe some Middle Eastern government decided they were gonna invest 500 million dollars in a JRE coin. And then I announce the JRE coin, they put in the money to back this JRE coin, I get a substantial stake in the JRE coin. So I get a bunch of JRE coins, and then I just dump all my JRE coins, and then it go, I get, I get all that money. And then it goes from being worth X amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing.

• 1:42:29Speaker 01

  Is that the pump and dump?

• 1:42:31Joe Rogan?

  That's the pump and dump.

• 1:42:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:42:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so that'd be a way I'd pay you. So like, say, maybe if you and I had some sort of a deal that was a little shady. And I said, Brian, how about this, I can't pay you outright, but what I can do is, why don't you start a crypto coin? And I will invest in your crypto coin, which is a very legal venture. And I will put in 100 million dollars into your crypto coin. And so now your crypto coin, a bunch of people will also throw money in, because there's 100 million dollars in it. And they know that it's gonna pump and dump, it's gonna happen, like the real clever fuckers. And then you just get out. So you get out, as soon as it hits the peak, like you get it set up so that like, it maybe peaks in 24 hours, or whatever the fuck it is, like, let's, like, let's, and again, we're not accusing anybody of anything. But let's look at-

• 1:43:16Speaker 01

  Nor are we taking notes.

• 1:43:17Joe Rogan?

  Um, let's look at Trump coin. How much was Trump coin worth, like, right after it came out, versus five days later? So, somewhere, that money has to go somewhere. And so, if I invested in Brian Simpson coin, and then that money, you know, it got to the coin it was worth, I don't know what, what a coin's worth, I don't know what it's worth, but let's just say it got to its peak. And then you sell, and you just dump all your coins. And so that you just rake in a big pile of money, millions and millions of dollars. And then everybody else is like- The people that like were dummies, they don't get anything.

• 1:43:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:43:59Joe Rogan?

  And then me, I didn't expect to get any money. I'm just trying to bribe you. I'm trying to pay you off.

• 1:44:04Speaker 01

  Well, the thing is, America-

• 1:44:06Joe Rogan?

  Does that make sense?

• 1:44:06Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. The thing is, America is like three quarters scams.

• 1:44:11Joe Rogan?

  A lot of scams.

• 1:44:12Speaker 01

  And some people sit around complaining about the scams instead of getting in on them.

• 1:44:15Joe Rogan?

  Did you hear what Dr. Oz said?

• 1:44:16Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:44:17Joe Rogan?

  Dr. Oz, works for the government now. They, California has a big hostel scam going on. You know how like Minneapolis and Minnesota had the daycare scam? California has a bunch of fake hostels where they're taking care of people? That's what it is, right? So they, they shut funding down to 400 of them. Not one of them complained.

• 1:44:41Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:44:42Joe Rogan?

  They're just like, whoop, see ya.

• 1:44:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:44:44Joe Rogan?

  And so it's his assertion that that's because they were all scams. So that Nick Shirley guy, the same guy that investigated the fraud in Minneapolis, he's investigated some of the fraud in California. And one of the things that they found in some of his videos is like, a lot of these businesses are registered to like a hotel. And like every room in this vacant hotel is a different office for whatever company. And so each room in the hotel is raking in money as an office that's supposed to be working as a hostel or as some sort of, you know, a rehab center or, you know, fill in the blank. They have all these learning centers, all these different kinds of things. And it's all just government scams, Medicaid scams.

• 1:45:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, get in on the scam.

• 1:45:29Joe Rogan?

  Get in on the scam.

• 1:45:31Speaker 01

  Scamming is the American way.

• 1:45:32Speaker 04

  Looking at it how you asked, isn't the best way to look at this? Here's what it said.

• 1:45:37Joe Rogan?

  Of course not.

• 1:45:37Speaker 04

  I'll show you what it says after this, though.

• 1:45:39Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Trump's official Trump meme coin, uh, launched at around one US dollar. Range reported roughly 0.18 to 1.20. And within about five days, it had crashed down from a brief spike near 70 to 75 US dollars, down to a high of 30s per coin. So that's within five days. So it spiked at 75, then it dropped down to 30. Different data provides slight- Completely different start points, but they are in the same general zone. Crypto Analytics notes Trump was launched on January 17th, 2025, initially worth 18 cents per token. So everybody buys in when that happens.

• 1:46:19Joe Rogan?

  Other coverage in exchange post described trading beginning around $1 or about $1 within the first hours after launch. So reasonable takeaway is launch price is 0.2 to 1.0 US dollars per Trump, depending on what exact tick you chose. So within first hours after the launch, the price skyrocketed from around $1 to around 75 US dollars. So that's when you want to get out within the first hours. Reports the same weekend cite highs near 70 to 75 US dollars and a market cap over 10 to 12 billion. A finance report on days after launch, trading started around 7 US dollars on Friday,

• 1:47:02Joe Rogan?

  jumped as high as 74 on Sunday. So that's when you're supposed to get out. So let me ask this, what is it worth now?

• 1:47:08Speaker 04

  That's like $2 now.

• 1:47:11Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. So it got as high as $74.

• 1:47:14Speaker 01

  Well, now you got holding on to it.

• 1:47:16Joe Rogan?

  Now you're fucked.

• 1:47:16Speaker 01

  Just in case.

• 1:47:17Speaker 04

  There's a little bit more. It's like, there's more into it because it's not the easiest coin to get. And how do you get it? And all those kinds of things come into play. And that's kind of what I think this sentence is more about.

• 1:47:27Joe Rogan?

  Right. But if it went to 75, somebody must have made a ton of loot, right? Had to.

• 1:47:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what it says. 800,000 wallets, which could be people.

• 1:47:39Joe Rogan?

  Collectively lost around $2 billion, while the Trump Organization and partners profited heavily from fees. Interesting. So that, this is the thing, like that's just that one. What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history? Let's look at that.

• 1:47:55Speaker 01

  Wasn't that?

• 1:47:56Joe Rogan?

  Let's find out. Sam Bankman Fried, that shit?

• 1:47:58Speaker 01

  I think it was him.

• 1:47:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think what he was doing, he said that if he was left alone, he would have recovered the debt. And that he had been doing this back and forth. They just caught him in a moment where this one guy sold all his coins off to try to crash him on purpose, like his rival. And then he didn't have the money to cover the spread and then people wanted their money out and then then they realized, but he had been, they all do that apparently. It was what his or, I don't know. But that's what his argument was, I believe, is that I think he said that if he was not, that they didn't interfere with him. Not only would those coins have gotten the money back, but they would be profitable today.

• 1:48:38Speaker 01

  See, I, I have friends that have profited from it. But when I hear them talk about it, it's like, I just don't quite understand it fully.

• 1:48:45Joe Rogan?

  I feel the exact same way.

• 1:48:46Speaker 01

  And I can't put my money in some shit that I, if I can't articulate how, how I can make money, I can't do it.

• 1:48:53Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, not only do I not understand it, I don't trust it.

• 1:48:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:48:57Joe Rogan?

  It sounds crazy to me.

• 1:48:58Speaker 01

  I had a homie that-

• 1:48:59Joe Rogan?

  And the people that try to talk you into it, they freak me out.

• 1:49:03Speaker 01

  Well, a lot of times they just, no, there's a new scam. Somebody in my family are getting caught up with these fucking scammers. But they're, they're, they're finding elderly, it's like going through the elderly community, a new, a new Ponzi pyramid, Ponzi scheme.

• 1:49:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:49:17Speaker 01

  And they're, basically they're telling these old folks that they, that they are joining a crypto exchange. But the crypto isn't real.

• 1:49:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:49:27Speaker 01

  So they, they download, they down, they have, they download this app. And they telling them, all you gotta do is get up every morning and make these trades. And you make, you make, you know, this much percent of your money back. And so, and they go, and you know what, and just so you know it's not a scam? I'm gonna put in a grand for you. I'm gonna put in two, five, I fuck it, I put in five grand for you. But you don't realize that money's fake too. You download the app, they can show you how much money you want.

• 1:49:51Joe Rogan?

  But you can't get that money out.

• 1:49:52Speaker 01

  It's, so here's how they get you. So they get you either way. So if, if you do, so the, the, the ultimate plan is to lull you into going, like they want you to, they want you to log on every day and see that number going up and go, oh shit, I'm gonna put my money in there so, so I can make even more money. Right? That's the ultimate plan. But if you, even if you got suspicious, and you're like, I wanna take my money out, well they go, okay, well just send us an early withdrawal fee. So they only end up getting a little bit of money out of you, but they still get real money out of you for no money. And, and even if you end up getting so suspicious that you won't even do that, well, they, they, they got you to download this app on your phone. And so they got your information.

• 1:50:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:50:35Speaker 01

  Most people use the same login credentials across apps, so you done gave them that as well.

• 1:50:39Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:50:39Speaker 01

  You know, or you-

• 1:50:40Joe Rogan?

  They got your email address, they could sell that.

• 1:50:42Speaker 01

  And they, they have your, they have your security questions, so they know your first dog's name and shit like that. So it's like, at the very least, they get in the way with your info.

• 1:50:50Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:50:51Speaker 01

  Or some of your real money. You know, and and old, a lot of old folks, they hear crypto and they don't really understand it. So it's easy to convince them that, oh, it's just something I don't understand, but this app makes it easy for me.

• 1:51:03Joe Rogan?

  Isn't it crazy that the polymarket thing for this special forces soldier, that he's going to jail for this? But Congress is allowed to insider trade.

• 1:51:13Speaker 01

  Oh, bro, bro.

• 1:51:15Joe Rogan?

  And that, that's kind of crazy because you can't, you can't be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro is going to be successful. Right? So if they're trying to overthrow Maduro, that's a military operation, they're not always successful. So if he's gambling on a military operation that he's about to embark in, he's kind of betting on his own life.

• 1:51:38Speaker 01

  Well, I think what they're getting him for is more that he endangered the mission.

• 1:51:44Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:51:44Speaker 01

  Cause I seen, cause uh.

• 1:51:45Joe Rogan?

  Is that what they're saying?

• 1:51:46Speaker 01

  Cause, yeah, because you're.

• 1:51:50Speaker 01

  Because if, if, if we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret. And it gets out there that someone keeps on predicting when we're going to make certain movements, then our enemies will be watching polymarket for when people bet on.

• 1:52:03Joe Rogan?

  That actually makes sense.

• 1:52:04Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:52:05Joe Rogan?

  Is that really the case, Jamie? What is he in trouble for?

• 1:52:08Speaker 04

  Uh, I mean, I was, I'm reading through the justice.gov thing. What Brian was saying started to make sense off of here, but at the bottom it says the actual charges and the charges are. Three counts of violating the commodity exchange act, each which carries a maximum of 10 years. One count of wire fraud, which is a 20 year max. One count of unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10 year max. And what's the other one? Well, that's only two, but it says there's three.

• 1:52:39Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy because like. How come no one in Congress ever gets in trouble?

• 1:52:45Speaker 01

  They do sometimes.

• 1:52:46Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't know.

• 1:52:46Speaker 01

  When they don't vote correctly. No, like every year somebody goes down.

• 1:52:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but not insider trading. They get busted for other shit.

• 1:52:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're right. For like taking bribes and stuff.

• 1:52:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Has anybody ever been busted congress wise for insider trading on stocks? I don't think so, if I guess. There was another controversy recently, uh, they're accusing Fetterman of doing it.

• 1:53:05Speaker 01

  But Joe, the, the type of shit the average person goes to jail for, oh my god.

• 1:53:09Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:53:09Speaker 01

  You wanna talk about something that'll piss you off about somebody going to jail?

• 1:53:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:13Speaker 01

  This guy in Florida, what was his name, um?

• 1:53:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, a few people have for sure.

• 1:53:16Joe Rogan?

  Really? Congress people? For insider trading?

• 1:53:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, even recently.

• 1:53:20Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:53:21Speaker 04

  Uh, it says rep from New York, Chris Collins pled guilty in 2019 to insider trading and lying after tipping his son about a failed drug trial, 26 months in prison, T-Mobile stock purchase.

• 1:53:32Speaker 01

  Definitely, definitely no, no senators though.

• 1:53:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, these are people that nobody knows. Look at these people. This ain't Nancy Pelosi.

• 1:53:39Speaker 04

  2020 scandal.

• 1:53:42Joe Rogan?

  So occasionally, oh, COVID trade.

• 1:53:44Speaker 01

  No powerful people are going to prison for that shit.

• 1:53:46Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:53:46Speaker 01

  Martha Stewart's the most, the most powerful person that ever went to jail.

• 1:53:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for that. She went to jail for lying. Seventy-eight members have been arrested?

• 1:53:54Speaker 04

  And one different con- not, not arrested, but all violated the Stock Act.

• 1:53:57Joe Rogan?

  Interesting, which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days. Maybe that's just because they tried to hide it and everybody else is just like, oh, I just made a good bet.

• 1:54:06Speaker 01

  They're saying just in this Congress.

• 1:54:08Speaker 04

  In April, three candidates were fined by Calci for, for allegedly, uh, whatever.

• 1:54:14Joe Rogan?

  Political insider trading by betting on their own races. How, but wait a minute. You can't bet on your own race? That seems crazy. Like, if you think you're gonna win? You don't know if you're gonna win. No one knows.

• 1:54:24Speaker 01

  But you, but I, but you're probably the first one to know which way it's gonna go.

• 1:54:29Joe Rogan?

  I don't know about that. I don't think those po- those polls are ever correct. Man, that's not true. They must be somewhat correct.

• 1:54:38Speaker 04

  They were suspended from Calci, so I don't know that they got in trouble for that.

• 1:54:41Speaker 01

  So Joe, check this shit out. This, this is gonna get under your skin. So this dude, Michael Martin in Florida,

• 1:54:48Speaker 01

  he, he, he made an addition to his house, a million dollar addition to his house. It got approved by the city and everything.

• 1:54:57Speaker 01

  And after he put it up, his neighbors complained. They went and dug up some like hundred-year-old statute.

• 1:55:08Speaker 01

  And and complain, right, and they they so they take him to court. And his argument is, well, it got approved by the city. Like, that's why I built it.

• 1:55:16Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:55:17Speaker 01

  So fuck them. But he but he compromised already. He compromised and he he put up a thing to block his view. So it wouldn't bother them.

• 1:55:26Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:55:27Speaker 01

  And that wasn't good enough for them. So then the judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down.

• 1:55:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:55:34Speaker 01

  And he refused. And now he's still in jail right he's still in jail right now.

• 1:55:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:55:39Speaker 01

  For contempt of court.

• 1:55:40Joe Rogan?

  Is this a homeowners association thing?

• 1:55:43Speaker 01

  No, it's just his neighbor. Keep no, no, cuz he he he everything was approved. It got approved by the HOA, got approved by the city and everything.

• 1:55:49Joe Rogan?

  He spent all his money.

• 1:55:50Speaker 01

  He spent all his money, built it up, and then and then his neighbor had a problem with it.

• 1:55:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, his neighbor's a piece of shit.

• 1:55:55Speaker 01

  And now and now the judge wants him to tear it down.

• 1:55:56Joe Rogan?

  Can you imagine your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to your house? Like, why do you give a fuck?

• 1:56:02Speaker 01

  If you if I'm going to if I'm going to jail over that, I'm gonna whoop your ass. I'm at least being there for something.

• 1:56:08Joe Rogan?

  That's so crazy that people can take someone to court for doing something to their house. Like, what does it matter to you? Is it affecting your view? Like, what is it?

• 1:56:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think it's one it's one of those things where it's like the technically, I think the argument you can make is that.

• 1:56:22Speaker 01

  I bought this house because. The forest was right there and he's chopping down the forest.

• 1:56:28Joe Rogan?

  Is that what he's doing, though?

• 1:56:29Speaker 01

  No, that's not what he's doing, but it's like, I don't know what they and I forget what the what the statue is that they found. His name was Michael Michael Martin, but they found some old ass technicality. Right, that the city didn't even know about because they approved it.

• 1:56:42Joe Rogan?

  You would hate that neighbor forever. If that guy made you take down your addition that you spent two hundred grand building up.

• 1:56:49Speaker 01

  Because that's my thing is like, how was the judge? How can you tell a man? Fuck your million dollars?

• 1:56:54Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 1:56:55Speaker 01

  That's what's crazy to me.

• 1:56:56Joe Rogan?

  And you got approved by the city. And he can't appeal that?

• 1:57:00Speaker 01

  I I don't know.

• 1:57:02Speaker 04

  He's in jail while it's being appealed, and that's what his lawyer's like. He's.

• 1:57:05Speaker 01

  No, cuz here's the thing. He can get out of jail anytime he wants.

• 1:57:08Joe Rogan?

  All he has to do is tear down the addition.

• 1:57:09Speaker 01

  He has to tear down the addition.

• 1:57:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but if he's appealing, why would he tear down the addition? And then if what he wins the appeal, he builds it back up again, and then the guy appeals the appeal?

• 1:57:17Speaker 04

  It's also saying that demo's gonna cost eight hundred grand.

• 1:57:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god. Oh, my god, for this fucking cunt neighbor.

• 1:57:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, you talk about being.

• 1:57:26Joe Rogan?

  What what is the specifics, though? Am I wrong? I mean, maybe the neighbor's right.

• 1:57:29Speaker 04

  I'm looking to see how it went down.

• 1:57:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, cuz what did the, what?

• 1:57:34Speaker 01

  Is there a video on it?

• 1:57:35Joe Rogan?

  Why could the neighbor have any, how could that make sense?

• 1:57:38Speaker 04

  Yes, it's starting off said the lawyer for a Tampa Tampa couple who asked a judge to find their neighbor in contempt of court over a disputed guest house says there's more to the story than we first brought you about.

• 1:57:49Joe Rogan?

  Of course, there's always more to the story.

• 1:57:51Speaker 01

  What is, is he growing shrooms back there?

• 1:57:54Joe Rogan?

  It's not chairing?

• 1:57:57Joe Rogan?

  My old neighborhood, there was this guy built a house and it was just kinda flat, it was flat. It was kinda boring, it was like just a, it was just like not creative. The guy was a builder and he wasn't much of an architect and I don't think he hired an architect. He just had his own idea to how to build a house, but he got permits and he did it. But I remember my neighbor complaining and he's like, you believe this guy built this fucking house? I'm like, what is the big deal? And he's like, you don't think that's an eyesore? I go, well, it's boring, it's a boring house, like what do you care? I just didn't, didn't understand it, but he wanted to like start complaining and get a bunch of people to file a complaint about this guy's house.

• 1:58:33Speaker 04

  Local news site.

• 1:58:35Joe Rogan?

  The location will allow the occupant of the guest house to peer into the backyard and pool area of the Babbitts' home. Oh. Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babbitts' property and installed bamboo along the property line to obstruct the view of the guest house.

• 1:58:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were, they were mad, they, you could see into their house.

• 1:58:54Joe Rogan?

  To their yard where their pool is.

• 1:58:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's how it started, that says, that was the initial complaint, but there's 500 filings that they've had over five years over this.

• 1:59:02Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 1:59:03Speaker 04

  1924 original subdivision said it was public space or supposed to be public space or something like that.

• 1:59:09Speaker 01

  Look at that, 1924, they went and found a 1924 statue.

• 1:59:14Speaker 04

  They're saying that the company he hired that got the approval did the, did that illegally and that's their claim, I guess. And then it all has to do with the evidence.

• 1:59:25Joe Rogan?

  So Martin signed a contract with a demolition company and needs to pay $392,372.50 to Dynamite Demolition, what a great name. I wanna get a t-shirt, Dynamite Demolition. To begin tearing down the structures, Judge Nash rejected them until last week, finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail. No one is above the law, McLaren said. So we just want the court's ruling to be complied with, and that's it. Boy.

• 1:59:59Speaker 01

  But somebody being able to see into your pool is wild for you to really go through this much trouble.

• 2:00:04Joe Rogan?

  She said, oh, so this general contractor, Julie McGill, is one of the several outside contractors and developers. I asked to evaluate the case. She says she can't remember a time when a judge told the city that it didn't follow its own code on neighborhood conformity.

• 2:00:20Speaker 01

  Wow. But see, Mr. Martin, you fucking up the game. You know what you gotta do, man? You know what you gotta do, Mr. Martin? Just comply, okay? Because you're not gonna win like this. Do what they say. Pay the money, tear it down. I'm guessing you got the money. If you built a million dollar guest house with a pickleball court and a pool just for your guests, you got the bread. Pay that bread, and then you take the money you save from not being caught up in all of these lawsuits, okay, and you spend it on revenge. You hire the most cold-blooded fucking creative people you can think of, and you you make this person's life miserable in all the legal ways possible, in all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it. You hire a bunch of college students, you give them a prize

• 2:01:06Speaker 01

  for whoever finds any statue that can fuck this man's life up. That's what you do. Don't sit in jail. You cannot take any revenge that cost you something. It's gotta be pure delight. You know, it's gotta be served cold. That's what they're saying. Revenge is best served cold. It's like you have to take care with the dish. You can't just react.

• 2:01:25Joe Rogan?

  It would be weird, though, if you always had a backyard where your pool didn't face anybody, and then all of a sudden a dude put a house right behind your pool.

• 2:01:33Speaker 01

  Put up a gazebo, motherfucker.

• 2:01:34Speaker 04

  I'm reading more. It's not exactly what it was. It says there was already, they put together some lots to make one bigger lot, and there was already some, uh, something on that. And so when he bought it, they're like, we don't see any problem with fixing that, changing how it looked, and that might be with you.

• 2:01:49Speaker 01

  But here's also the thing, though, Joe. He offered to block, like, put up a wall and block the, for many of the cities.

• 2:01:57Joe Rogan?

  Have no windows.

• 2:01:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:01:58Joe Rogan?

  Put up bamboo.

• 2:01:59Speaker 01

  And I feel like if he is a good neighbor, that's reasonable.

• 2:02:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:03Speaker 01

  That's a reasonable compromise. Go, oh, you know, I didn't even think about, I could see into your house. We'll just knock the windows out. That feels like, instead of being like, no, I want you to waste a million dollars.

• 2:02:13Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:02:13Speaker 01

  Fuck. To me, that's where you became the bad guy. When he offered a reasonable compromise and you said, fuck no, then fuck you.

• 2:02:20Joe Rogan?

  Fuck you.

• 2:02:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, fuck you. I'm telling you right now, they lucky it's not me with a million dollars. Cause I'm Batman now. I'm Batman and you the Joker. And I'ma spend my whole, I'ma, I'ma, I'ma live my life as no those, that's true.

• 2:02:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh yeah, I'ma, I'ma tear it down. I'ma sell the house. I'ma use all the money from all, from selling this house. I'ma use all that money to break your life hard. You know what I'm saying?

• 2:02:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:42Speaker 01

  I'ma pay people to break in your house and.

• 2:02:44Joe Rogan?

  That's illegal. Don't do that. That's illegal. You don't wanna pay, don't do illegal things.

• 2:02:49Speaker 01

  Let a crackhead do it.

• 2:02:50Joe Rogan?

  But that's illegal still.

• 2:02:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 2:02:52Joe Rogan?

  Crackhead will rat you out too, then you'll be in jail.

• 2:02:54Speaker 01

  Cut your internet line, wait till you call the repair shop.

• 2:02:56Joe Rogan?

  That's illegal too.

• 2:02:57Speaker 01

  Have them throw dead mice in the back of your vents.

• 2:02:59Joe Rogan?

  You can't have it be illegal. It's gotta be legal.

• 2:03:01Speaker 01

  It can be illegal.

• 2:03:02Joe Rogan?

  It must be legal.

• 2:03:03Speaker 01

  But I just can't think of anything legal right now.

• 2:03:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, you could sue people for all kinds of stupid shit and just make them go through legal problems.

• 2:03:09Speaker 01

  Mm-mm. Don't sue. Yeah, just have, just have people outside with a tape measure. They, if they, if they a centimeter from the curb. Call, call them cops. Straight neighbor wars.

• 2:03:19Joe Rogan?

  Neighbor wars are real, man. People kill each other over neighbor wars.

• 2:03:22Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, the Hatfields and the McCoys, ancient.

• 2:03:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, um, I think that was over some other shit.

• 2:03:28Speaker 01

  There's nothing worse, there's nothing worse than living beside somebody that like this.

• 2:03:33Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:03:33Speaker 01

  It's completely unreasonable, completely unable to compromise.

• 2:03:37Joe Rogan?

  Nice neighbors are beautiful.

• 2:03:39Speaker 01

  Oh man.

• 2:03:39Joe Rogan?

  You have good neighbors, it's great. I have nice neighbors. It's ni- and I have ni- I had nice neighbors in California too.

• 2:03:45Speaker 01

  Cause, cause here's the thing, it, it doesn't take much to be a good neighbor. You just, you have to be thoughtful and in the, in the times that you're not thoughtful, when it's brought to your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame.

• 2:03:57Joe Rogan?

  Well, here goes. Uh. Stolen hog. It was over a stolen hog, illicit romance and longstanding judges. Two neighboring families in the backwoods of Appalachia. So here's the thing about that though, I think this is from. Is this from Malcolm Gladwell's book? I forget whose book it's on from, um, but there was a, a book where they explained that what had hap- I believe it's Malcolm Gladwell. Was it explaining that the reason why the people in Appalachia are so violent? Is because they come from herding populations in Europe. And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers. Cause if herders, someone can come along and steal all your sheep and you're fucked. You can't really steal all someone's corn. It just takes forever.

• 2:04:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:04:40Joe Rogan?

  You gotta chop it down, you know what I mean? So these people were used to defending their animals with violence. Because people would come in and try to steal them. Uh, yes, Malcolm Gladwell, yeah, Outliers, that's the book. Uh, chapter six, Hatfield McCoy feud is analyzed as a prime example of a culture of honor. Where similar to the findings in this Reddit thread, ancestral herding roots forced rapid brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation. This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict. So culture of honor, Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the Appalachian Mountains.

• 2:05:21Joe Rogan?

  In these regions, law enforcement is weak and survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and prompt often violent retaliation against slights. Yeah, that makes sense.

• 2:05:32Speaker 01

  What was the name of the book, though?

• 2:05:34Joe Rogan?

  Outliers. Fucking great book. It's a really good book.

• 2:05:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have it. I haven't read it, though.

• 2:05:39Joe Rogan?

  It's really good. It, it talks about like why people are successful. The, one of the more interesting things is about the Beatles. And the Beatles talks about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where they were performing every fucking day, every day. They were doing multiple sets every day and they did it for like a few years and then they went back to Liverpool and everybody's like, what the fuck happened with you guys? Like, how'd you get so good? And they got so good because they were just performing all the time. I think it was at a strip club. I think it was something crazy like that, like they were performing music at a strip club, like something weird. And because of that-

• 2:06:19Joe Rogan?

  They were just getting reps, like crazy reps. And I think that's the key to like, almost anything, almost anything. And this is the, the argument in outliers. It's like, you know, the 10,000 hours of mastery, like that argument.

• 2:06:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, but wasn't 10, the 10,000 hours is, is, uh, it's not exactly what he said, right?

• 2:06:37Joe Rogan?

  No, it's a rough, because there's other, obviously, people that are savants.

• 2:06:43Speaker 01

  Well, I know, I think he, um, he modified it because he, he, he talked about it's, it's not about the amount of time as much as it's about the, the kind, the quality of practice.

• 2:06:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:06:56Speaker 01

  So like intentional directed practice.

• 2:06:59Joe Rogan?

  Which is, would be like performing on stage.

• 2:07:01Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 2:07:01Joe Rogan?

  For the, all those, where is, what were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie? Were they, uh, were they at, were they at a, was it a strip club? Something like that.

• 2:07:12Speaker 04

  It said they played in clubs and strip bars.

• 2:07:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:15Speaker 04

  So there's, there's a lot of places, I guess.

• 2:07:17Joe Rogan?

  So they were just going off, they were just like doing as many sets as they can. Which is the same with comedy. Everybody that we know that really progressed rapidly, they did as many sets as possible. They're hopping all over the place, like guys in our club, like Ari Matti, for instance. That fucking dude, he's, he'll go up at the sunset, he'll go over here, go there, go there, does a show at the mothership. He's just in it, you know, he's in it.

• 2:07:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:07:40Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:07:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, all day.

• 2:07:42Joe Rogan?

  And when you're doing that, you just get better quicker.

• 2:07:44Speaker 01

  Just get better and better.

• 2:07:45Joe Rogan?

  And those dudes that we know that do a set a week, you know, come in, drop in, do 15 minutes, that's it. You don't see them again for another week. They kind of like get stale, just stay flat.

• 2:07:55Speaker 01

  They get stagnant.

• 2:07:56Joe Rogan?

  They get stagnant, yeah. Whereas the Beatles just got after it and then all of a sudden, love, love me, they just got smooth, you know? Which makes sense. That's the case with everything, though. With like everything you do, like you don't want a surgeon that does brain surgery once a year. You know, you want a guy who's like in it.

• 2:08:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:08:15Joe Rogan?

  He's in it all day. He's fucking studying journals and practicing with robots.

• 2:08:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm trying to be your third brain that day.

• 2:08:22Joe Rogan?

  That's right, yeah. You don't want to be the fifth brain, though. It gets tired.

• 2:08:26Speaker 01

  No, yo, you know, funny is I, I just saw something about, um, they did a, he did a study at a courthouse where.

• 2:08:36Speaker 01

  And they found that the, that judge, whenever the judges had, like, how harsh of a sentence you received, uh, was directly related to how, how long it had been since the judge ate something.

• 2:08:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, I've seen that before, yeah, I've seen that, yeah.

• 2:08:54Speaker 01

  That's crazy as hell.

• 2:08:55Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 2:08:56Speaker 01

  Like, and it's, it's, it, it, it, it's enough, it's statistically significant.

• 2:09:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, which makes sense, cranky.

• 2:09:03Speaker 01

  Yo, give me.

• 2:09:04Joe Rogan?

  Or if the judge getting no pussy, maybe he's going through a divorce, you know, maybe his wife fucked her trainer.

• 2:09:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 2:09:10Joe Rogan?

  Damn it, fuck you.

• 2:09:11Speaker 01

  Give me the hot judge right after breakfast.

• 2:09:13Joe Rogan?

  What if you come in and you're, you're a personal trainer too, and you're dealing with some shit?

• 2:09:18Speaker 01

  Mm.

• 2:09:19Joe Rogan?

  The judge is like, my wife just fucked her trainer, you piece of shit. Some people get real petty like that, they don't give a fuck about, about, like, doing the right thing.

• 2:09:29Speaker 01

  Oh, hell no.

• 2:09:30Joe Rogan?

  No, they just wanna, they wanna feel power, fuck people over, fuck you, fuck all trainers.

• 2:09:36Speaker 01

  Well, you know, another thing I just found out about is, um, um, I think, I think that the country is Anguilla, right, Jamie? They, they, um, so you know how, you know how like in America, the websites are all dot com?

• 2:09:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:55Speaker 01

  In Russia, it's like dot ru.

• 2:09:56Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:09:57Speaker 01

  In Anguilla, it's dot AI.

• 2:10:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:10:01Speaker 01

  Which didn't used to mean shit, but now.

• 2:10:04Joe Rogan?

  Now it's worth some money.

• 2:10:05Speaker 01

  Now they're making so much money selling domains that it's like half of their money.

• 2:10:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:10:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's completely changed the economy, their economy.

• 2:10:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's crazy, cause it seems like you're legit if you have like perplexity dot AI.

• 2:10:19Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:10:20Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:10:21Speaker 01

  So anybody, anything dot AI, they gotta pay these people.

• 2:10:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 2:10:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:10:25Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's so many domains now.

• 2:10:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, just from something we didn't used to think meant anything.

• 2:10:29Joe Rogan?

  Cause it used to be like, you only had dot com and dot net.

• 2:10:33Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:10:34Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:10:35Speaker 01

  Like, you never know with this, like, bro, somebody just held up a, uh, somebody, uh, cause I'm on a, one of the, one of the subreddits I be on is called, uh, why would you touch that, or what is this? And usually, usually the same posts are on both, cause people are like, what is this thing? And then also, why did, why did you, why are you touching it?

• 2:10:56Speaker 01

  So I just saw one recently, but somebody held up a thing. And they were like, what is this, what is this, what does this OF mean? And it was like, but it, but it was, it was from, so you know Tyler, the creator?

• 2:11:08Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:11:09Speaker 01

  So he, when he first came out, his group was called Our Future. So this is way before OnlyFans.

• 2:11:15Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:11:16Speaker 01

  And so if you saw OF, you know, before seven years ago, it meant, that's what it meant.

• 2:11:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:11:22Speaker 01

  And so it was one of their like stickers or promo things, something like that. But, but this was a young kid. He found it in an attic or something. He didn't know what the fuck it meant. He was like, why is it? Cause he knew how old it was. So he was like, it can't be OnlyFans. What is this?

• 2:11:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:11:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's like, shit changes all the time. These motherfuckers, they, they, they got this, uh, dot AI. They never thought, nobody thought they would make any fucking money off of it.

• 2:11:42Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:11:43Speaker 01

  Now.

• 2:11:44Joe Rogan?

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• 2:13:49Joe Rogan?

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• 2:14:09Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 2:14:10Joe Rogan?

  Where'd that come from?

• 2:14:11Speaker 01

  I don't know. Who, what is that? Is that a?

• 2:14:14Joe Rogan?

  I don't know, but they have that, like they have .biz for some.

• 2:14:17Speaker 01

  I remember back when that used to mean something like we used to have like do .org.

• 2:14:20Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:14:21Speaker 01

  I think .edu is still a thing.

• 2:14:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, remember when people sell websites for a lot of money? So people would like buy a bunch of domains and hold on to them like business. I think business.com sold for a ton of money.

• 2:14:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, but now I think it's hard to do that now.

• 2:14:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what kind of business do you have that people are just looking up business.com? Why is that even worth anything? You know what I mean? That's like eating.com is worth money.

• 2:14:44Speaker 01

  I don't know if you remember back when, when White, when WhiteHouse.com was a porn site.

• 2:14:48Joe Rogan?

  Bah, was it?

• 2:14:50Speaker 01

  The actual site was, it's always been WhiteHouse.gov. But that was back when people didn't know. So WhiteHouse, so people, whenever anyone was looking for the White House, they go WhiteHouse.com, they go to this porn site.

• 2:14:59Joe Rogan?

  Do you know what Red Band did?

• 2:15:00Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:15:00Joe Rogan?

  Do you know the Pepsi Spice thing?

• 2:15:02Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:15:04Speaker 01

  What is Pepsi Spice?

• 2:15:05Joe Rogan?

  One of Red Band's greatest trolls was he bought PepsiSpice.com. So Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out. And so Red Band bought PepsiSpice.com and then he started documenting how he was drinking Pepsi Spice and he was having bloody diarrhea, that's all he was drinking, he was dying, he was getting cancer. It's like the fucking craziest thing. I mean 14 years ago, so play it full screen.

• 2:15:34Speaker 07

  169.

• 2:15:38Joe Rogan?

  So he's losing weight?

• 2:15:39Speaker 07

  Hi, this is Brian from PepsiSpice.com. A lot of people wouldn't believe me, so that's why I'm making this video. My pee has actually turned, um, not yellow, not white, but it's um, very red now, so. And I'm not making this shit up. That's why I'm filming using this, uh, Canon camera, the S, uh, four megapixel camera, um, so.

• 2:16:07Speaker 01

  That's how old this is.

• 2:16:08Speaker 07

  Okay, tore it, yeah. I'm going to pee again, just gonna.

• 2:16:20Joe Rogan?

  So he's like pretending that his pee's bloody?

• 2:16:23Speaker 01

  Oh, this guy.

• 2:16:24Joe Rogan?

  And he's so silly, he just kept doing that, like it got worse and worse and worse. And eventually Pepsi Spice bought it from him.

• 2:16:30Speaker 01

  Bro, the hardest part to believe about that video is the 170 pounds.

• 2:16:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time.

• 2:16:35Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 2:16:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah. Brian at one point in time got real heavy and then went on a crazy fitness kick. He got a, like a stair climber in his house and he was fucking riding that bitch every day. And he lost a ton of weight. And he had a photo of him like with his old jeans. This is Pepsi Spice Project.

• 2:16:56Speaker 01

  Pepsi Spice Project.

• 2:16:59Joe Rogan?

  He's so silly. But this one, man, he committed a lot of fucking time to this. It was very funny. Like, I remember reading it and like dying laughing. I'm like, you're so ridiculous.

• 2:17:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, if Red, if Red Band decides fuck you, he can really elevate to like a 50 cent level of...

• 2:17:18Joe Rogan?

  Of pettiness?

• 2:17:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:17:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but this wasn't even fuck you. This is just him having fun.

• 2:17:23Speaker 01

  Did, did they come after him?

• 2:17:25Joe Rogan?

  I think eventually they did. But the thing was, like, they were too stupid to buy PepsiSpice.com when they had Pepsi Spice. Like, you gotta buy that. Like, who the fuck? You should fire somebody. Somebody in your organization is slipping, because he didn't know that Pepsi Spice was gonna be a thing till after you released it. So the fact that you knew that you were gonna release Pepsi Spice and you didn't buy out PepsiSpice.com is kinda crazy.

• 2:17:48Speaker 01

  That is kinda crazy.

• 2:17:49Joe Rogan?

  Kinda, kinda ridiculous.

• 2:17:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:17:51Joe Rogan?

  That's just shitty planning. That's whoever works for them. They deserved whatever he did.

• 2:17:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I tried to, when I tried to get, because all my social media stuff is BS, and I tried to get BS.com or it was, or BSComedian.com or something like that. And it was, and then they, if somebody already owns it, it was like a, like a Canadian improv group or something.

• 2:18:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting.

• 2:18:14Speaker 01

  And they, I was like, well, I'll buy it from you. And how much? And the, and the price they said was so crazy that I was like, what?

• 2:18:21Joe Rogan?

  How much?

• 2:18:22Speaker 01

  I, I wanna say they asked for like $10,000 or something. And this was back when I, that was, that was, like, I wouldn't pay that now, but back when, but back then I didn't even have it.

• 2:18:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:18:33Speaker 01

  I was like, what? $10,000 is crazy for a website. Y'all, because it, it wasn't like they were doing tons of business through this website.

• 2:18:39Joe Rogan?

  Were they using it at all? How much would you have paid for it?

• 2:18:43Speaker 01

  Back then?

• 2:18:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:44Speaker 01

  I would've gave him a thousand bucks.

• 2:18:45Joe Rogan?

  A thousand. If they said two, no way?

• 2:18:49Speaker 01

  Maybe, maybe fifteen hundred would have been the best and final.

• 2:18:53Joe Rogan?

  I think today, though, all anybody does is do a search of your name and then they find your website. Like, if somebody wants to find your website, they just search and it's right there.

• 2:19:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, but I, but I, but I need, but part of me always wants everything to be the same. And it ended up not being that way anyway, because my TikTok is a different thing than everything else. Everything is BS comedian except that.

• 2:19:12Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting that you have TikTok. Don't you worry about the terms of service? Like, all the access they have to your phone and access to computers around your network and all that shit?

• 2:19:20Speaker 01

  The Chinese?

• 2:19:20Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:19:22Speaker 01

  I mean...

• 2:19:22Joe Rogan?

  Well, now it's not the Chinese anymore now.

• 2:19:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, for me, I've never...

• 2:19:26Joe Rogan?

  Now it's the Ellison's.

• 2:19:27Speaker 01

  I've never, because the, the, once, once Edward Snowden told us what was up, I'm like, they are, who gives a fuck? I care who spying? I'm getting spied on no matter what I'm doing.

• 2:19:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:19:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, what the Chinese gonna do to me? They gonna be like, oh, he's...

• 2:19:41Joe Rogan?

  Basically, they have everything that you've ever done and they only use it if they catch you. They, so if they're looking for something, like, say if you run for Congress and you do some insider trading, you do something shitty and they come after you, then they go, oh, Brian, it's interesting because we have, uh, voicemail that you left on someone's, where you were talking about a crime.

• 2:20:02Speaker 01

  They got that shit, though. They already got it.

• 2:20:03Joe Rogan?

  Those have stuff, but somebody got arrested today from, um, Fauci's administration.

• 2:20:10Speaker 01

  See, that's why I...

• 2:20:11Joe Rogan?

  They arrested the first guy who was, uh, involved in the cover-up of the lab leak theory. And, um, he was using a Gmail account, uh, to avoid Freedom of Information Act requests. So he was using Gmail instead of, this is allegedly, I don't know what the reality of all this is, obviously, but I just read about it today. Ex-Fauci top advisor indicted over alleged COVID cover-up. Hidden emails. David Morens allegedly received gifts, including wine and high-end meals from a collaborator, prosecutors say. Uh-oh.

• 2:20:48Speaker 01

  See, this is why I don't believe in incognito mode.

• 2:20:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's all bullshit.

• 2:20:51Speaker 01

  I'm like, yo, jerk off on your main and delete that shit out of your history. Because all incognito mode is, is just you going, hey, Google, this is the stuff I don't want nobody to know about.

• 2:21:01Joe Rogan?

  Exactly. And then they put it in a file. He's served for years as a top advisor with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Um, indicted and is accused...

• 2:21:15Joe Rogan?

  Your phone's talking to you, dog.

• 2:21:19Joe Rogan?

  What does it say?

• 2:21:20Speaker 01

  Google's like, you can trust me.

• 2:21:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Google's like, hey, I know incognito mood is legit. Big dog Nino mode. So he was using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from Freedom of Information Act requests, according to the DOJ indictment unsealed. It was also apparently bragging about it. Allegedly alleged that Morens conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications related to a controversial coronavirus research grant that involved collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China. The grant was later terminated amid scrutiny of whether COVID-19 may have originated from a lab leak. Isn't it amazing that?

• 2:22:05Speaker 01

  But did he, how did they catch him though? Did he?

• 2:22:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right? This is the thing because they wanted to get Fauci. That's why the Biden administration gave him a pardon from 2014 on, which is really kind of wild. Federal prosecutors also claimed that Morens received gifts from a collaborator, including wine and offers of high-end meals, and later took steps to justify these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the theory that COVID-19 emerged naturally rather than from the Wuhan lab. So they bribed him to get him to do this, allegedly.

• 2:22:46Joe Rogan?

  He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that are going to wind up going down. There's too many people that are pissed off. There's too many people, I mean, too much money got lost, too many people wound up dying.

• 2:22:56Speaker 01

  Wait a minute, why you think, why you think anybody's going to go to prison now? They never go to prison.

• 2:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you're not, no. This is a new thing. I mean, this kind of thing is a new thing and there's enough people that want heads to roll. This is a weird thing. I mean, this is a weird thing where they shut the whole country down. If you find out that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered and they were lying about it and hiding it and covering it up.

• 2:23:18Speaker 01

  Oh, I see. That's what I took from that.

• 2:23:21Joe Rogan?

  The virus came from the Wuhan lab, okay? These people were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab. They were funding.

• 2:23:30Speaker 01

  Oh, they?

• 2:23:31Joe Rogan?

  The creation of this virus.

• 2:23:32Speaker 01

  He was part of a group that was funding them.

• 2:23:33Joe Rogan?

  And he was also allegedly being bribed with things to promote the idea that it came from naturally, from natural spillover versus from a lab leak. Alleged.

• 2:23:46Speaker 01

  Who's alleging?

• 2:23:47Joe Rogan?

  Whoever the prosecutors are, whoever the, I mean, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what they know and what they don't know. But I do know that obviously there was a concerted effort to make it seem like this came naturally and not from the Wuhan lab. There was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if you had posted during like 2020 about a lab leak, if you said, I think it came from a lab, they would literally pull you off of YouTube. They would kick you off of Twitter back then. Before Elon bought Twitter, they would kick you off Twitter if you were going on and on about it, this is a lab leak. I mean.

• 2:24:19Speaker 01

  We living in them times, man. A hypothetical could fuck your world up. You can't even, you can't even chew on it. You can't even like have a, play devil's advocate.

• 2:24:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can now. You can now because of Twitter, because Elon bought it. But before then, when the government was essentially in control, I mean, the government was conspiring to control and to limit.

• 2:24:38Speaker 01

  Can you talk shit about him?

• 2:24:39Joe Rogan?

  About Elon? Yeah, people do all day. They're, they're all day. Yeah, all over Twitter in his defense. I mean, I'm sure he blocked them, but I mean, he, he could block somebody, but then you could talk, people talk mad shit about him.

• 2:24:52Speaker 01

  Bro, that motherfucker be on Twitter way too much for how rich he is.

• 2:24:55Joe Rogan?

  Not only that, how busy he is. I don't understand it.

• 2:24:58Speaker 01

  A boy busy tweeting what he doing.

• 2:25:00Joe Rogan?

  But he's, he's busy making rockets and shit. I mean, I don't understand it. I don't know how he has the time. I can't do it.

• 2:25:06Speaker 01

  But he ain't making the rockets. He got like slaves or whatever.

• 2:25:09Joe Rogan?

  Bah!

• 2:25:10Speaker 01

  I don't know what he, I'm sure he got like geniuses chained to.

• 2:25:13Joe Rogan?

  He does, but he's in charge of a lot of it, man. I went to the rocket factory during the launch. Jamie went too. We all went and watched SpaceX launch. We went down to the, to the col, with the Gulf, right?

• 2:25:24Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, they're the main guy. Bro, you know, they just launched, um, they, or, or they're gonna launch the, on SpaceX. They gonna launch, um, the new telescope.

• 2:25:32Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:25:33Speaker 01

  The, uh, what's it? The Nancy Grace Roman, the Roman, the Roman telescope. Bro, ooh, this motherfucker is.

• 2:25:39Joe Rogan?

  These, the, these new telescopes are kinda crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that like, oh, we didn't know that.

• 2:25:46Speaker 01

  What's crazy about this one is how fast they built it and, and this is the craziest part, it's under budget. So they built it faster than they said for less than what they said.

• 2:25:56Joe Rogan?

  And now, what is the power of this one as opposed to like the James Webb?

• 2:26:00Speaker 01

  Apparently, so I was, I was listening to this shit, I was fascinated earlier, but, but, uh, they're saying, so they weren't comparing it to the James Webb, they're comparing it to the Hubble.

• 2:26:12Speaker 01

  Cause the James Webb is, is more infrared. This is more like the Hubble, like it's, but, the, it, it takes a pictures at the same resolution as the Hubble, but way, way bigger. So they were, they, they, they were saying that there is not a, there's not a screen that exists that you could display the picture on.

• 2:26:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's a wide field instrument, whereas the James telescope is near infrared.

• 2:26:38Joe Rogan?

  Interesting. So what is this gonna be able to detect that the James Webb can't?

• 2:26:43Speaker 01

  Exoplanets is one of the big ones.

• 2:26:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shit.

• 2:26:46Speaker 01

  Like way, way, way, way more than we can right now.

• 2:26:49Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if they find exoplanets and you could see lights on them.

• 2:26:54Joe Rogan?

  Like a city.

• 2:26:55Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's possible.

• 2:26:56Joe Rogan?

  One day.

• 2:26:59Joe Rogan?

  Just imagine. Imagine how crazy.

• 2:27:01Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I think about it all the time.

• 2:27:02Joe Rogan?

  Fucking crazy that would be.

• 2:27:04Speaker 01

  So yeah, so, so see how huge.

• 2:27:07Joe Rogan?

  Holy shit.

• 2:27:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, compares more to the Hubble, I think, than the James Webb.

• 2:27:11Joe Rogan?

  And the type of telescope it is.

• 2:27:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, and just the amount of information that it can take in.

• 2:27:17Joe Rogan?

  They're finding shit from the James Webb that's freaking them out. They're finding things that make them question the age of the universe itself.

• 2:27:23Speaker 01

  And this thing is gonna, it's gonna do, like, we, we, cause I don't know if you remember this, but the first time I was on this pod. I told I told you about the James Webb's wait like a year and a half before it came out.

• 2:27:34Joe Rogan?

  What were you telling me about?

• 2:27:36Speaker 01

  I was just telling you that it existed.

• 2:27:37Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:27:37Speaker 01

  That it was gonna change everything.

• 2:27:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:27:39Speaker 01

  And.

• 2:27:40Joe Rogan?

  It has.

• 2:27:40Speaker 01

  And and and this one is gonna do the same thing.

• 2:27:42Joe Rogan?

  The formation of galaxies is freaking them out. They find they find these galaxies that are formed way too quickly. So they're confused. They and now they're starting to like, are we wrong about how long it takes to form a galaxy? Or are we wrong about the age of the universe?

• 2:27:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, there's there's the we're wrong about everything. I mean, we're wrong about a lot of things. But I but you know, the thing about scientists love being wrong.

• 2:28:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they do. Well, especially these kind of scientists.

• 2:28:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:28:06Joe Rogan?

  They love new discoveries.

• 2:28:07Speaker 01

  Like, oh, more questions.

• 2:28:09Joe Rogan?

  They're not very they're not dogmatic. Also, it's it's very difficult to argue when you get the data back from these things. I mean, it is what it is. We were talking about this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger than our galaxy.

• 2:28:23Speaker 01

  Oh, well, yeah, yeah, that.

• 2:28:24Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:28:25Speaker 01

  Well, I think you were sending me that. I think you sent me that. Something, um.

• 2:28:28Joe Rogan?

  Or it might may not be bigger than our galaxy, or it's commensurate with our galaxy. It's like, it's there's one that they found that was bigger than our entire solar system.

• 2:28:38Speaker 01

  It was ton something.

• 2:28:39Speaker 04

  Ton six eighteen. It's bigger than the solar system.

• 2:28:42Joe Rogan?

  But that's one. But there was the alpha. What was the other one that we looked at the other day? Um, and then we brought it up the other day. There's one that's even larger than that. Like, they keep finding these ones that are just impossibly big.

• 2:28:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, because it would have to have been primordial, right? Like, it would have to have formed.

• 2:28:58Joe Rogan?

  Well, this was the question. They they said that it was so big, it didn't make sense that it had enough time to suck up enough stars to get that big. That was the problem.

• 2:29:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 2:29:09Joe Rogan?

  They were like, there's not enough time from the birth of the universe for this thing to exist and be this big.

• 2:29:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, because it would have had to have started at a time where the where matter wasn't close enough together to even form things.

• 2:29:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so fucked up. It's so crazy.

• 2:29:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:29:23Joe Rogan?

  Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all the way out to Pluto.

• 2:29:27Speaker 01

  Here's a real.

• 2:29:28Joe Rogan?

  A black hole.

• 2:29:28Speaker 01

  Here's a real sad thing. There's there's probably there's there's a lot of things that we that are just not knowable to us. Like, we just will never know.

• 2:29:36Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:29:36Speaker 01

  And we and that's you we just got to accept that. Like, like you hear every time you hear them talk about how we're you know, we're expanding, the the the universe is expanding so so rapidly, then eventually it's gonna be because it's speeding up. So eventually, it's gonna be expanding close to the speed of light.

• 2:29:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:29:54Speaker 01

  And so it's like, at some point.

• 2:29:58Speaker 01

  If there's still people on earth by then, at some point, there's not gonna be any stars. We're gonna be, it's gonna be expanding so rapidly that when you look up at the sky, you're not gonna see anything. Like, they're gonna think, they're gonna think that everything outside our galaxy doesn't exist.

• 2:30:12Joe Rogan?

  They all died off.

• 2:30:13Speaker 01

  They're gonna see stars, but you're not gonna see, they're not gonna know that there's other galaxies. Cause the, the light, the light won't be reaching us.

• 2:30:20Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:30:21Speaker 01

  So it's like, so imagine the stuff that we, that, that we can't know now, that we already beyond where we couldn't even know.

• 2:30:28Joe Rogan?

  I think it's called Phoenix. I think that was the-

• 2:30:31Speaker 04

  They're both part of the same thing.

• 2:30:33Joe Rogan?

  It's the same thing?

• 2:30:33Speaker 04

  I'm looking at the, everything about ton six one eighteen says it's, it's the biggest thing they've ever found.

• 2:30:39Joe Rogan?

  And how big is it exactly?

• 2:30:40Speaker 04

  Eighty-eight. Oh, what did I say?

• 2:30:43Joe Rogan?

  Eighty-eight.

• 2:30:44Speaker 04

  Just lost the, uh...

• 2:30:47Speaker 04

  Mass is the size of roughly sixty-six billion suns, I think is what that means. I don't fucking know what that means, man. I don't understand.

• 2:30:57Speaker 01

  Sixty-six billion solar masses.

• 2:31:01Joe Rogan?

  That's so crazy.

• 2:31:04Speaker 01

  You can't even really, you can't even really imagine that.

• 2:31:06Joe Rogan?

  Do you know what they said? That there are more planets in the, in the universe than there are seconds since the Big Bang?

• 2:31:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, I, yeah, yeah, that's-

• 2:31:20Speaker 04

  There you go, yeah. Phoenix is surrounding ton six eighteen and that.

• 2:31:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's what it is. Okay, so Phoenix, eh, the quasar, as a quasar, ton six eighteen is believed to be the active, active galactic nucleus at the center of a galaxy, the engine of which is a supermassive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas and matter in an accretion disk? What does that mean?

• 2:31:44Speaker 01

  That's the, that's the disk around the black hole that, uh, like when it eats something, that's where, that's where the light is coming from.

• 2:31:55Joe Rogan?

  How, when did they discover this?

• 2:31:57Speaker 04

  Nineteen fifty, sixty-

• 2:32:02Joe Rogan?

  Nature of this object was first noted in fifty-seven. Thirteen years later, nineteen seventy, discovered emissions from it.

• 2:32:08Speaker 01

  You wanna get really get freaked out? Jamie, look up the Great Attractor.

• 2:32:13Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 2:32:14Speaker 01

  So, this scaryish faces so, so there is something on the other side of us that we can't see. And everything is moving in that direction, including us, and we don't know what's pulling it.

• 2:32:29Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 2:32:32Joe Rogan?

  Hidden galaxies discovered in the zone of avoidance. What does that mean? The Great Attractor defeat dark energy? What?

• 2:32:41Speaker 01

  Now, look up a-

• 2:32:42Joe Rogan?

  What is it? The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the Llanacaia supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy, as well as about a hundred thousand other galaxies. The observed attractions suggest a localized concentration of mass having the order of ten to the sixteen solar masses. However, it's obscured by the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of avoidance, so that in visible light wavelengths, the Great Attractor is difficult to observe directly.

• 2:33:20Speaker 01

  Bro.

• 2:33:22Joe Rogan?

  There's no way you can know everything.

• 2:33:23Speaker 01

  It's a, and the attraction is observable.

• 2:33:24Joe Rogan?

  There's too much information.

• 2:33:26Speaker 01

  So, we know everything's being sucked towards it.

• 2:33:28Joe Rogan?

  What is that?

• 2:33:29Speaker 01

  We don't know, and it's sucking all these galaxies, all these super galaxies, everything's moving towards it, and we can't tell what it is.

• 2:33:35Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if it's your job to know what's going on in the universe. Hey, Brian, write me a paper on what's going on in the universe. Like, everything? Everything?

• 2:33:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean-

• 2:33:47Joe Rogan?

  It would never end. There's, with every new satellite that gets launched that can see into the space, every new telescope that gets utilized, like, we're fucked.

• 2:33:57Speaker 01

  Here's the other thing, though. I, and I could be wrong about this, I mean, I'm wrong about a lot of shit. But I think that it's actually physically impossible for you to know even a fraction of the things. Because any, any device that could store that amount of information would collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere near storing enough. So, your brain couldn't even hold- Even, even a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the information.

• 2:34:25Joe Rogan?

  That makes sense. We have pea brains.

• 2:34:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:34:28Joe Rogan?

  There's no way we can have that information. The South Pole, what is this?

• 2:34:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, flat earthers are gonna love this.

• 2:34:33Joe Rogan?

  Okay. South Pole Wall, or the South Pole Wall is a massive cosmic structure formed by a giant wall of galaxies, a galaxy filament that extends across at least 1.37 billion light years of space. The nearest light, and consequently part of which is aged at about a half a billion light years. The structure and its astronomical angle is dense in five known places, including one very near the celestial South Pole, and is, according to the international team of astronomers that discovered the South Pole Wall, the largest contiguous feature in the local volume and comparable to the Sloan Great Wall at half the distance. Okay, you just like...

• 2:35:18Speaker 04

  I just were blocked in by walls, that's all I was getting at.

• 2:35:21Joe Rogan?

  Uh-huh. Maybe that's why they're confused. And maybe that's what they think the Antarctic Wall is.

• 2:35:25Speaker 01

  Or maybe the rest, maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're a problem, and they got us locked in.

• 2:35:29Joe Rogan?

  Duh.

• 2:35:30Speaker 01

  You know, perhaps we got, we gotten out before and fucked the, fucked the galaxy up.

• 2:35:34Joe Rogan?

  Maybe.

• 2:35:36Joe Rogan?

  Back in the Egyptian days, maybe that's what they were doing.

• 2:35:39Speaker 01

  Something.

• 2:35:39Joe Rogan?

  You see that shit they've, you've seen that shit that they found underneath the pyramids, right?

• 2:35:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:35:43Joe Rogan?

  You haven't seen that?

• 2:35:44Speaker 01

  I don't think so. What you mean?

• 2:35:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you don't know? Okay.

• 2:35:47Speaker 01

  Oh, you don't know?

• 2:35:48Joe Rogan?

  Kirk.

• 2:35:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you don't know? Like, you should sell t-shirts.

• 2:35:54Speaker 01

  You ever heard?

• 2:35:55Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you don't know. Um, they found these structures. They use, oh god, what is it called? Radiotomography, satellite radiotomography, and there, it's this ground penetrating shit that they've found these structures underneath the pyramids that go like over a kilometer deep into the earth. Like pillars, giant columns that are surrounded by coils that go down into the ground. And they've used this technology successfully to detect things that they know exist, like certain voids that are in pyramids, and certain chambers, and certain temples that they know exist underground. And they've accurately described these things, including they use this radiotomography

• 2:36:38Joe Rogan?

  on, um, on, they, uh, uh, there's a mountain in Italy that has a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain, over a kilometer into the mountain. They built this particle collider. And this thing, this, this information, this, uh, technology, shows an accurate, uh, image of what this particle collider looks like. The exact dimensions, shows it exact. And so they're using this underneath the pyramid, and this guy Filippo Biondi, this Italian scientist that I had on the podcast, explained that they've used this, uh, underneath the pyramids, and there's these undeniable structures that exist that go down into the ground, like very deep into the ground. Under, so the pyramids are just the top of this immense structure.

• 2:37:20Speaker 01

  I just, when you said Italian scientist, I just keep thinking about him like taking a nap in the middle of the night.

• 2:37:24Joe Rogan?

  Eating pasta, drinking wine, eventually we're figuring it out.

• 2:37:28Speaker 01

  So, so you're saying that there's, that there are machines down there or something?

• 2:37:32Joe Rogan?

  They don't know what it is. So they haven't really dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet, but they know that these sensors, these, this technology is detecting these structures. Show, Jamie, show them what it looks like. So, show them the 3D model, they, they made a 3D model of it.

• 2:37:47Speaker 01

  I'm shocked that we, that we, that we can't get in there and just go.

• 2:37:51Joe Rogan?

  That's what they think it looks like. Okay.

• 2:37:53Speaker 01

  What?

• 2:37:54Joe Rogan?

  Imagine, if that's accurate, if there really are columns underneath the, the pyramid.

• 2:38:01Speaker 01

  I mean, that just seems so impossible.

• 2:38:02Joe Rogan?

  It seems impossible.

• 2:38:03Speaker 01

  And there's heat?

• 2:38:04Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't think it's heat. I don't think that's what it, there's a water table underneath there too. And they think it has something to do with the use of the pyramid in the first place, that it wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort of, uh, a use, and that these columns were doing something, and that it was probably some sort of a technology. Look how nuts that is. Megastructures underneath the pyramids. Could you go back to what that one said with the, the, yeah, right there? Look at that. Alleged megastructures under Egypt's pyramids sparking fascination and fierce skepticism worldwide. You lose something?

• 2:38:42Speaker 01

  No, I take it.

• 2:38:43Joe Rogan?

  So if it's true, that's nuts.

• 2:38:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, that, that sounds absolutely fucking crazy to me. That, I'm just thinking about the work that it would take to even do that.

• 2:38:54Joe Rogan?

  Right, and what, what kind of a society did that?

• 2:38:56Speaker 01

  And for what purpose?

• 2:38:57Joe Rogan?

  And it's at least 4,500 years old, at least, at least.

• 2:39:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, and so apparently the, the, those ancient pyramids were before

• 2:39:08Speaker 01

  we thought they, like, I thought like the, like the modern Egyptians built those pyramids.

• 2:39:12Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:39:13Speaker 01

  They weren't, the pyramids were ancient to them.

• 2:39:16Joe Rogan?

  Well, that seems to be the case with a lot, that's the Labyrinth. The labyrinth that's underneath, uh, that's outside of the pyramids. This is another insane structure that they found that Herodotus documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago. But, um, this is all Ben Van Kirkwick from, um, his Uncharted X YouTube channel, sort of described all this and explained it, and they've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show that there's this immense structure that Herodotus described as being greater than Giza itself, that's underneath the ground.

• 2:39:50Joe Rogan?

  And inside the labyrinth, there's a 40-meter-long metallic object that's shaped like a Tic Tac.

• 2:39:59Joe Rogan?

  So whatever the fuck that is, who knows, but I think there's a lot of shit from that part of the world that's gonna show us that civilization at one point in time had reached a very high level, like, probably even higher than we are today. And then it was wiped out, and then we're the rebuild.

• 2:40:16Speaker 01

  Well, they didn't cure syphilis.

• 2:40:18Joe Rogan?

  Duh.

• 2:40:19Speaker 01

  Actually, bro, you know there's a new syphilis?

• 2:40:21Joe Rogan?

  I heard, from Michigan or some shit, right?

• 2:40:23Speaker 01

  From, no, from, from Washington.

• 2:40:25Speaker 04

  Probably from Michigan.

• 2:40:27Speaker 01

  No, no, it was in Washington.

• 2:40:29Joe Rogan?

  Washington?

• 2:40:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, the dude, the dude.

• 2:40:32Joe Rogan?

  A new kind of syphilis?

• 2:40:33Speaker 01

  Well, it's not a, it wa, the dude had two, he had two syphilises.

• 2:40:37Joe Rogan?

  Two different?

• 2:40:38Speaker 01

  He had two ones.

• 2:40:39Joe Rogan?

  What a dirty pig he must have been.

• 2:40:40Speaker 01

  And they, and they, they, like, the same way that COVID was going through, like, genetic recombination, so like,

• 2:40:46Joe Rogan?

  Uh huh.

• 2:40:47Speaker 01

  They were exchanging traits inside his body.

• 2:40:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy, and creating a super syphilis.

• 2:40:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then, and then, and then, and then what happened is, a bunch of old ladies kept going to the ER, and they all kept describing the same man, and they tr-

• 2:41:01Joe Rogan?

  He spread it, he was a super spreader.

• 2:41:03Speaker 01

  He was spreading it, yeah, and, and he went to the ER, cause it, cause it, cause apparently, like, this, whatever strain he has, it just causes you to go blind, super quickly, and all these, all these things, and he, there's debate about whether he knew he was purposely spreading it and didn't give a fuck, cause they told him, "Yeah, you gotta come back."

• 2:41:22Joe Rogan?

  He just kept fucking?

• 2:41:23Speaker 01

  He just kept fucking and didn't go back, and to, and then, and then he went, he didn't go back until he had another emergency, and he went to a different emergency room.

• 2:41:30Joe Rogan?

  How many times in human history has that been the cause of a plague?

• 2:41:33Speaker 01

  Cause somebody wouldn't stop fucking?

• 2:41:35Joe Rogan?

  Wouldn't stop fucking, and just won't tell anybody.

• 2:41:37Speaker 01

  I mean, how, how you gonna be mad, you can't be mad at-

• 2:41:40Speaker 04

  There's five cases of rare ocular syphilis.

• 2:41:43Joe Rogan?

  Which can cause vision impairment or blindness identified in southwest Michigan, Michigan. Between March and July 2022, all linked to a single heterosexual male partner. Wow.

• 2:41:55Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:41:56Joe Rogan?

  All five women, age forty to sixty, he wasn't picky, reported having sexual contact with the same man. This guy was a freak.

• 2:42:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, bro, he was out here fucking.

• 2:42:06Joe Rogan?

  Fucking people blind.

• 2:42:09Speaker 01

  And, cause here's what's crazy, imagine leaving the emergency room, cause, cause the first time he was in the emergency room, they thought he had herpes.

• 2:42:15Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:42:15Speaker 01

  And they gave him something for that, and he left, but imagine coming from the emergency room from an STD scare and going right back to fucking.

• 2:42:21Joe Rogan?

  And going blind. All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin. No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment. Woo. Alright, bro, let's wrap this up with super syphilis.

• 2:42:35Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:42:35Joe Rogan?

  Um, anything going on? When is, uh, you're gonna put your special up?

• 2:42:39Speaker 01

  I'm gonna do that later, yeah.

• 2:42:40Joe Rogan?

  When are you gonna put that out?

• 2:42:42Speaker 01

  Uh, I think it's gonna be the summertime, July.

• 2:42:44Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 2:42:45Speaker 01

  I'm gonna put my special up on YouTube.

• 2:42:47Joe Rogan?

  Come back in July?

• 2:42:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, we'll do that.

• 2:42:49Joe Rogan?

  I'll see you tonight.

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• 2:43:08Speaker 06

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