#2362 - Ralph Barbosa

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:05Speaker 01

  Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:13Speaker 02

  So, let's go. What are you doing?

• 0:15Joe Rogan?

  We playing with magnets?

• 0:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, man. I'm checking out all your toys. What'd you say this guy's name is? Travis?

• 0:20Joe Rogan?

  That's Travis Walton.

• 0:21Speaker 02

  Travis.

• 0:22Joe Rogan?

  And he's, he's a guy that got abducted allegedly by some sort of a UFO in the 1970s. And the story was so crazy that it became a movie. It's called Fire in the Sky. And I don't know, like I said, I don't know if he's telling the truth, but it's very compelling. He doesn't seem like a liar. And he's been telling the exact same story for 40-plus years.

• 0:46Speaker 02

  I think he's telling the truth.

• 0:47Joe Rogan?

  You think so?

• 0:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah?

• 0:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't know. I don't know anybody, I mean personally, I don't know anybody who's kept up a lie for that long.

• 0:55Joe Rogan?

  There's gotta be someone. There's gotta be someone that's like, I think people can make a story up and then only keep that, that lie. Usually, generally, when people lie about stuff, they'll lie about a bunch of stuff, especially something that crazy. They took me aboard a UFO and they fixed me. So this is the story. The story was, these guys were all loggers in Arizona. And so they're driving down this logging road and they see some crazy light in the sky and it goes into this area. They pull off to the side of the road. They walk towards it and there's this disc that's like hovering, this glowing disc. He walks towards it and he got really close to it and he got hit with a beam of light. And he falls back, like that's supposedly what it looked like.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  That's art.

• 1:41Joe Rogan?

  That's the art, the art depiction of it, what these guys saw. He gets hit with this beam of light and they take off. They're like, fuck! And they did, jump back in the truck and take off. He's lying on the ground. And they get like, five minutes away. And they're yelling at each other, we gotta go back, we gotta go get him. They were scared. And so they're like, fuck it, let's go back. So they go back to go get their friend and he's gone. So, five days later, there's, you know, there's a manhunt for him. Nobody can find him. Five days later, he shows up, walks into town. He's fully, it doesn't look like he's starving to death. He's not out of water. Doesn't look like he's been living in the woods. It just looks like he...

• 2:24Joe Rogan?

  Just like a normal day. And he tells this crazy story. He tells this story that he got abducted. They took him aboard this craft and fixed his body. Cause the beam of light that came out of the ship. From whatever, whatever it was, whatever energy source it was. Fucked his body up, they repaired it. And they communicated with him telepathically. While they were on the ship. I forget all the details of it, but.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Yo, but.

• 2:47Joe Rogan?

  This is the film of it.

• 2:52Joe Rogan?

  But this is supposedly. What he said the experience was like, said it was terrifying. And he described, the thing that that's crazy is that they all described the same exact creatures. They described these.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Who is they?

• 3:05Joe Rogan?

  People that get abducted.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 3:06Joe Rogan?

  People that have had UFO experiences, anybody that's had direct contact. Did you ever see that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind?

• 3:13Speaker 02

  Mm hmm. I saw that movie, The Fourth Kind, when I was in middle school.

• 3:16Joe Rogan?

  What's that one? Is that an abduction one where they come get you?

• 3:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like, um. Man, I only watched it once, it scared the shit out of me. I think. People go on there like hypnosis and they they remember what their abduction was like or something like that.

• 3:30Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, yeah.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, don't quote me on that.

• 3:33Joe Rogan?

  Well, the third kind, I think, is contact. I think Close Encounters of the First Kind is like you see it. I don't know what the second kind is. There's like a list of the kinds. The fourth kind derived, explains Jay Allen Hynek's Classification of Close Encounters with Aliens. The fourth kind denotes alien abductions. Dun dun dun.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, that one. I like how we talk about aliens, like it's like feeling on a girl like second base. Like, yo, did you get to the fourth kind?

• 4:00Joe Rogan?

  Get to the fourth base. She takes you home. Yeah.

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Nah, but his, his friends. They. They're like, his friends that left them, that left him.

• 4:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  I mean, they saw it.

• 4:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They all had the same story.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  That has to be real. I don't think you're gonna convince these guys.

• 4:19Joe Rogan?

  Probably not, but maybe you could. It's like, it's not impossible. It's not like they, it's like breathing underwater, that's impossible, right? Okay, flapping your wings at the top of a cliff, you fly away, that's impossible. Keeping a lie is possible. It's not likely. It doesn't make sense, doesn't make sense whether, one of the reasons why it doesn't make sense is Travis and one of the guys in the truck had gotten into a fistfight that same day. Like they didn't like each other, they hate each other, they're workers, they're just coworkers. You know, logging is hard fucking work, man. You're you're cutting trees and carrying trees and it's backbreaking, brutal labor. And you get hard men. Loggers are bad motherfuckers, man. My friend Evan, his whole family is from loggers.

• 5:04Joe Rogan?

  Um, and they're just, he's like, they're the hardest fucking people you've ever met in your life. Just hard men. Like, doing this shit deep into their sixties and seventies, carrying logs, just, just a different breed of human being. So, uh, they fucking didn't get along and they got in a fistfight that day.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  So why lie for him?

• 5:25Joe Rogan?

  Why would you lie for him? Exactly, why would you lie for him?

• 5:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, these are hardworking men, Joe Rogan, they don't need to lie.

• 5:30Joe Rogan?

  They're savages.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Hey, did his friends get any money from that movie?

• 5:34Joe Rogan?

  What friends?

• 5:35Speaker 02

  His friends that left him?

• 5:36Joe Rogan?

  His friends? That's a good question. It's a good question, right? Cause then it would, it'd be a reason to lie.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:42Joe Rogan?

  But the movie was a long time after the actual event. What year was the movie, Jamie?

• 5:46Speaker 00

  Ninety-three?

• 5:47Joe Rogan?

  Ninety-three.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  And this happened when?

• 5:49Joe Rogan?

  In the seventies.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  In the seventies?

• 5:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's no way, like, bro, any day now, you're getting paid.

• 5:54Joe Rogan?

  I got D.B. Cooper lied, who was the guy that was the, uh, the actor?

• 6:02Speaker 00

  D.B. Sweeney?

• 6:03Joe Rogan?

  D.B. Sweeney, that's right. D.B. Cooper is the guy that stole the money and jumped out of the plane.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  D.B. Cooper?

• 6:08Joe Rogan?

  Confused, yeah, you never heard that story?

• 6:09Speaker 02

  Was he the guy wanted by the FBI?

• 6:11Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yeah.

• 6:12Speaker 02

  Like a top ten wanted or something like that?

• 6:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, he stole a bunch of money and then hijacked an airplane and then jumped out of the airplane with the money.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  And he, he died, like they found the body and everything? Or he, was it like a mysterious?

• 6:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a mysterious.

• 6:26Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 6:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 6:27Joe Rogan?

  You never heard that story?

• 6:28Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 6:29Joe Rogan?

  It's an interesting story, but the area the guy skydived into was heavily wooded. And the problem with that is if you're a skydiver and you're in a parachute and you, you're going into a heavily wooded place, you're gonna land in the trees.

• 6:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then you risk like?

• 6:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  Getting?

• 6:45Joe Rogan?

  Which is cutting yourself loose, also, cutting yourself loose out of the trees. What if you're thirty feet up? How are you getting down?

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:54Joe Rogan?

  What if you fall getting down? People go missing in the woods all the time and no one finds them ever. You don't find nothing.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  What?

• 7:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Why don't we hear about this more often?

• 7:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, you do if you pay attention, but...

• 7:07Speaker 02

  I don't pay attention.

• 7:08Joe Rogan?

  It's a, you know, there's only so many things you can think about.

• 7:11Speaker 00

  Recent update on the Cooper story, but this is just the brief for those who'd never have heard of it.

• 7:17Joe Rogan?

  Okay, DB Cooper is the moniker given to the skyjacker, a dapper, dark-haired man, apparently in his mid 40s, who called himself Dan Cooper. The mystery man passed a flight attendant a note while on a Northwest Orient Airlines flight in Portland, Oregon, bound for Seattle, November 24th, 1971. The note contained, claimed rather, that he had a bomb in his briefcase, which he opened to show a large tangle of wires and red sticks.

• 7:43Joe Rogan?

  When Boeing aircraft landed in Seattle, the man who became known as DB Cooper freed 36 passengers in exchange for a mountain of cash and four parachutes. The plane took off with several crew members aboard, bound for Mexico City on his orders. Wow, so he just made them fly him somewhere with a briefcase with a bomb in it.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  They were listening to him.

• 8:03Joe Rogan?

  So at an altitude of 10,000 feet above Seattle and Reno, he jumped from the back of the jetliner with a parachute and the ransom money vanishing into history. The case remains unsolved despite the manhunt, a manhunt the FBI tenaciously interviewing hundreds of people in a cottage industry of true crime buffs pouring through the evidence.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  Nah, I do got away.

• 8:25Joe Rogan?

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• 11:07Speaker 02

  There's no, there's no way that like he thought all of this out and then was like, ah, once I get in the air, I'll just wing it. Like, the man knew he was gonna jump over those woods. He knew that the minute he landed in Mexico, they'd have some sort of, like Dog Day Afternoon.

• 11:23Joe Rogan?

  Right, but he wasn't in Mexico. He jumped outside of Portland, right?

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:28Joe Rogan?

  It was in the Pacific Northwest that he jumped, right?

• 11:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, like they just took off and then like twenty minutes in, he's like, alright, I'm out.

• 11:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 11:34Speaker 02

  That's the biggest curve ball to throw them, because they're gonna, their plan is to

• 11:39Joe Rogan?

  Go to Mexico.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Go to Mexico.

• 11:40Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  Right? He thinks he's gonna land safely and then they're gonna figure out a way to

• 11:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but the thing is, have you ever been in the Pacific Northwest? Ever been in the woods up there?

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Not in the woods, but I've been, I've seen them from the highway.

• 11:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, you see, okay, yeah, tallest trees and real dense, like this, like, like, like a box of Q-tips. That's how I always describe the trees up there. Like, they're really close to each other. There's not a lot of open space up there at all. It's all just trees. So if you're landing into that mess, you're not gonna find a spot to land. And then here's the other problem. If you do find a spot to land, where are you? Do you know where you are? Do you know how to get out of there?

• 12:17Speaker 02

  I think that dude

• 12:18Joe Rogan?

  You could walk for days in any direction and not find shit.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  Nah, I think he planned that part.

• 12:22Joe Rogan?

  I don't think he did. I bet he was on meth.

• 12:26Joe Rogan?

  For real.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Probably, alright, that sounds more likely.

• 12:28Joe Rogan?

  That's a meth move. The whole thing's a meth move. I'm gonna get a fucking bomb, I'm gonna get on the plane, I'm gonna tell them, I got a fucking bomb, I want some money, and I want some fucking parachutes, and I'm gonna get the money, and I'm just gonna parachute to safety. It sounds like a terrible idea.

• 12:39Speaker 02

  You think so? I mean, I think for, for a second there, it can, like, if the guy was sober, I think it's genius. I think he's a sober genius. You think he's just some meth head.

• 12:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think he's a meth head.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  I think he studied the woods for like months.

• 12:57Joe Rogan?

  No way, because how are you gonna know, you're going ten thousand feet above the earth, you're going five hundred miles an hour, and you're gonna jump? So, I want you to imagine that. So here's this, shhh, you're going five hundred miles an hour, and then you jump. Where are you gonna land?

• 13:14Joe Rogan?

  You're going 500 miles an hour, you have to fall 10,000 feet. Where the fuck are you gonna land? You have no idea where you're gonna land.

• 13:20Speaker 02

  You should, you should make tests. Like, you should be in charge of creating the SATs. It's like question number eight, where the fuck are you gonna land?

• 13:28Joe Rogan?

  Well, here's the thing, back then, there was no GPS. Okay? So back then, all you had is a compass. So, even if you have a map, like, how big's your map?

• 13:38Speaker 02

  People, people were smarter back then, though.

• 13:40Joe Rogan?

  No, they weren't. Trust me, I used to live back then.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  I feel like people had to, like, I feel, I feel like the further back you go in time, maybe not too far back, right? But I feel like 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, like, people were forced to like learn maps, learn their directions, learn how to utilize a compass, like. People were better on, on their feet, you know what I mean?

• 14:06Joe Rogan?

  That's true. They definitely knew more phone numbers, they definitely knew how to get around more without any sort of GPS. Ever, I'm addicted to GPS, that shit runs my life. When I, if I wanna go somewhere, I just always put it in my phone.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, it gives you like traffic updates.

• 14:19Joe Rogan?

  That too. Yeah, that's huge. Oh, detour, fuck you people. Ha ha, and you feel happy, look, I gotta run that traffic.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  Back in the day, you just had to like memorize routes, memorize which routes were busy at which times.

• 14:32Joe Rogan?

  And you had to listen to AM radio for the traffic update. The traffic update brought to you by Costco.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Hey, who's that one guy that comes on, I don't know if he still does? He like, what's the story with him? He got like really rich? And he gives people financial advice? Is it Ramsey?

• 14:49Joe Rogan?

  Dave Ramsey?

• 14:50Speaker 02

  Dave Ramsey?

• 14:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  Do you know him?

• 14:51Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought you knew him.

• 14:56Joe Rogan?

  Back to DV Cooper. I think that dude was on meth. I think that's a total meth head plan.

• 15:02Speaker 02

  I, maybe.

• 15:03Joe Rogan?

  I got a fucking bomb. He's got a bunch of red sticks with wires. Blow it up bitch, you don't know how to, what is that? What's in that bag?

• 15:12Speaker 02

  I.

• 15:12Joe Rogan?

  I think, I think he's a pure meth head, that's what I think. I think crazy wild dude.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  They say, they say Hitler was on meth too.

• 15:21Joe Rogan?

  Yes. Yeah, most likely. He was definitely on oxycodone and, um, the, the actual Nazis were definitely on meth, for sure.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  They gave Nazis meth?

• 15:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, man, there's a great book, is it out there? It's in the other room, it's called Blitzed, um, by, um,

• 15:39Joe Rogan?

  how do you pronounce his name?

• 15:44Joe Rogan?

  Norman O- Oller, right? Oller. Norman Oller. Uh, great guest, too. He was amazing. Um, but he wrote this book about all the meth they took during World War II. It's all about, like, the most meth they gave to the people in the tanks.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  So he was a Nazi that wrote a book?

• 16:00Joe Rogan?

  No. No, he's a researcher. How dare you?

• 16:03Speaker 02

  I wanna read a book by a Nazi.

• 16:05Joe Rogan?

  Well, you'd have to read, like, Mein Kampf, and you have to read it with, like, a book cover on, so people don't think you're a psycho.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, we gotta know what they were thinking, you know what I mean? People should read it.

• 16:14Joe Rogan?

  That's the book. That book is great.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  Blitzed.

• 16:17Joe Rogan?

  So they were all on meth.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  That's Hitler just all fucked up off meth?

• 16:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, Hitler was definitely on oxycodone, he was on a bunch of other shit, and he had a doctor. It's a, it's a really good book, you should read it. It's very interesting, cuz it, it lets you, it gives you a totally different insight into why they were behaving the way they behaved. Like the kamikazes, for instance. You know, they flew their planes right into the ships. They were on meth.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  What?

• 16:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's why they did it.

• 16:41Speaker 02

  But like, what kind of meth?

• 16:42Joe Rogan?

  Crystal meth.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  But like, okay, but like, how were they taking it in? Were they just, like, smoking the pipe and then hopping in the plane?

• 16:49Joe Rogan?

  Good question. That you can eat it. First of all, there was pills, and, uh, there were actually prescription pills that the government would give out in Germany. Was it called Prevotin?

• 16:58Speaker 00

  Pervotin.

• 16:59Joe Rogan?

  Pervotin, pervotin. So this pervotin stuff was essentially an over-the-crown or methamphetamine that you could buy. That's how many people were on meth.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Although, I feel like a lot of the most popular drugs at one point or another are, like, over-the-counter medication. Or like, prescribed, right?

• 17:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, for sure.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Like cough syrup, like everybody's doing promethazine. I mean, they still are, whatever, right? But then they had to, like, ban it.

• 17:26Joe Rogan?

  Yep. Yeah, syrup. Uh, for every war and abused drug. What is this, Jamie?

• 17:32Speaker 00

  It starts off with, uh, I didn't know, ISIS uses a ADHD drug.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  ISIS is on Adderall?

• 17:38Joe Rogan?

  Captagon? Captagon sounds like a fake drug. That sounds like a drug in a movie.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:43Joe Rogan?

  The kids want Captagon.

• 17:45Speaker 02

  It sounds like it was made by like, the guy who made Adamantium metal.

• 17:48Joe Rogan?

  Right, right, right. So it was an early ADHD, a failed ADHD drug. It was banned almost globally in the 1980s, but a few Middle Eastern nations are still producing it. What does it do? A stimulant gives some sort of euphoria and a sense of purpose. Let's bring that shit back Pfizer.

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Euphoria and sense of purpose.

• 18:07Joe Rogan?

  Stop trying to give me some fucking vaccines that I don't need. And how about hooking me up with a little euphoria?

• 18:12Speaker 02

  And sense of purpose.

• 18:13Joe Rogan?

  And a little sense of purpose. Little yellow tablets seem to be fueling much of the mayhem in Syria, but illicit drug uses on the battlefield isn't new.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's Purvatin.

• 18:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so the methamphetamine Purvatin was distributed to soldiers in preparation for the war. And what's interesting about that is they had different doses for different people. Like the dudes in the tank at the very front, they got the most meth.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 18:36Joe Rogan?

  Of course. You're gonna need it, you have the greatest job.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  They're just like, uh, cuz they would have to stick their heads out the top of the tank, wouldn't they? And then like give the...

• 18:45Joe Rogan?

  So there it is. Fucking go, fucking go right now, fucking turn around. I mean, you imagine what it sounds like when a fucking tank cannon goes off? She says the US military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to soldiers during World War II, and Japanese kamikaze pilots in the Pacific used it in their final fateful missions.

• 19:07Speaker 02

  Oh, US military. Our guys were on meth too?

• 19:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  World War meth.

• 19:14Joe Rogan?

  US military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to its soldiers during World War II. Yeah, well, this is, look, if you have soldiers and they're in combat, you want them to live and succeed. You don't give a shit if they're, oh, they're taking steroids. Good, give them all the steroids. Give them every fucking thing you can give them. Give them EPO if it helps their endurance. Give them steroids. Give them shit that makes them more aggressive. Give them things that make them more confident. Give them everything. Give them beta blockers. Give them whatever the fuck works. They're in combat. Like, it's, that's important. So if you got amphetamine, give that shit up, dog.

• 19:54Speaker 02

  Do you think anybody was like, they stayed addicted or anything?

• 19:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, for sure.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 19:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure. Yeah, a hundred percent.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Would it be cruel if I went up to like a World War II veteran with like a pipe? And was like torching at the bar?

• 20:05Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they do it that way. I think they were taking the pills.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  You know, he's still like the party old man.

• 20:11Joe Rogan?

  Just crush some of them pills up, put it on a table, maybe he'll snort it.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  I learn, I learn a lot when I'm here. I feel like a lot of your guests, like, they have so much to like share with the world, but I just come here just ingest.

• 20:23Joe Rogan?

  Well, I'm ingesting too, dog. Uh, child soldiers in Africa, why couldn't I say that word right? Child soldiers in Africa are commonly given a mixture called brown brown, which is cocaine and gunpowder.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 20:36Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. This is ingested by inhaling it into the nostrils. A method that rapidly affects the user and is conducive to addiction. What, what about the gunpowder makes it better?

• 20:49Speaker 00

  Uh, also here, whereas you were saying that too, back to the Civil War, they were using alcohol and then...

• 20:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, American Civil War soldiers were often given alcohol prior to battle as a form of liquid courage and as a means of steadying their nerves. Huh. World, wow. Niall Ferguson concluded that World War I could not have been fought without alcohol. During World War II, amphetamines were used. Yeah, amphetamines are better. Like if you, like if you've got a choice between alcohol and amphetamines, like, bro.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  I was watching this dude, ah, man, I forgot his name. He like gives these lectures on history.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  David? Nah, I don't know.

• 21:27Joe Rogan?

  Dan Carlin?

• 21:29Speaker 02

  Nah, that's not it. Wait, can I pull out my phone?

• 21:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sure.

• 21:33Speaker 02

  I don't know, I feel like this is like school.

• 21:34Joe Rogan?

  What was he, um, doing lectures about?

• 21:37Speaker 02

  I don't know. I was only watching him because I was like, I better brief up on something to talk about. Because last time I was here, I, I was, do you know I read the comments on the last time I was here? And people were like, ah, this episode, this dude's not so cool. He like, he's not interesting. The last guy was, was better. That was a great episode, the last guy. So I'm like, alright, well, who's he, you know? And that dude was like out here, I think he was like a fighter pilot, talking about aliens, like spilling it. And I was like, why, why did y'all put me after that fucking guy?

• 22:07Speaker 02

  You know, on the way here, the driver was like, "Yeah, man, the other day, we drove the Irish comedy writer, ended up getting cancelled and this and this happened and fucking, they took his shows off, but there's all this controversy." And I'm like, "Now I gotta go up against this guy?" Like, that guy-

• 22:26Joe Rogan?

  You can't think about it that way, man. We're just hanging out. We're having fun. People like these shows as much as they like all the other shows sometimes. This is part of the show where I talk about AG1, which I've done for years, and usually I like to talk about routine. And, don't get me wrong, because routine is super important, and AG1 is exactly the kind of daily, easy routine that can help you feel healthy and help you get the nutrients that your body needs. But even if you love a routine, isn't it nice to switch it up a little? Well, here we go. After 15 years of the original, AG1 has introduced three new flavors: Tropical, Berry, and Citrus. It's still daily, it's still a routine, but it's no longer one flavor fits all. And honestly, the best part is that's the only thing that's changed.

• 23:07Joe Rogan?

  Besides new flavors, we're talking about the same science, the same 75-plus ingredients, and the same exact benefits. I partnered with AG1 for so long because they're committed to constantly improving. And now, that includes offering three new flavors. Subscribe today and choose Tropical, Citrus, Berry, or the classic Original variety. If you use my link, you'll also get a free bottle of AGD3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, and five AG1 Travel Packs with your first subscription. Just go to drinkag1.com/joerogan or head to the link in the description to get started with AG1 and try the new flavors yourself. That's drinkag1.com/joerogan.

• 23:52Speaker 02

  Look, this guy's name is Dr. Roy Casa Grande.

• 23:57Joe Rogan?

  Okay, and what is his deal?

• 23:59Speaker 02

  So I was watching this video where he explains like, what led to World War II.

• 24:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, interesting.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  But he spends like, 45 minutes talking about the hundreds of years before World War I even, and how that kind of came to play. So first he like, first he explains how World War I came to play, because to understand why World War II happened, you gotta understand why, what caused World War I, you know? And uh, I forgot where I was going with this.

• 24:25Joe Rogan?

  Just history, history of war.

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, no, so uh, everything, I listened to it, I had to listen to it like three times. Cause uh, you know, I just, I kept getting distracted and stuff. But it sounds so like sophisticated and it makes sense if you listen to it all, I'm like, okay, I get why World War One happened now. Um, but then finding out that everybody was just like drunk and on meth the whole time. Just sounds like, it sounds like this is such a bro-y idea to go to war. Like it's all the sophistication behind it, but then at the end they were just like, fuck, let's just get fucked up while we're out there though.

• 25:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, all those old time English gentlemen, they all wanted to go to war. It was like, you wanted to prove your courage in battle. And it was a, it was a, it was a bro-y thing, it was almost like a frat boy thing.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  Well, everybody wanted to conquer land back then, right, and just rule empires and shit. Wow, I feel like we should go back to that.

• 25:22Joe Rogan?

  What are you talking about?

• 25:23Speaker 02

  No, I feel like stuff is too leisurely now, it's too comfortable.

• 25:27Joe Rogan?

  That's true, but we need to teach people that leisurely is not good for you. We, you don't need artificial, you know, you don't need the kind of conflict that's gonna ruin cities and kill people and. Don't go back to that, that's stupid. We just need to understand how to manage the human body.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 25:44Joe Rogan?

  Manage the body, manage your brain and your body, that's the.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  Are you saying everybody should work out and just eat healthier?

• 25:51Joe Rogan?

  My, the mu- most minor interpretation of it. But we need to figure out a way to keep people from being aggressive and to keep people from being greedy and keep people from stealing resources and. We need to curb some of the worst aspects of human nature. And I think the only way to do that is mushrooms.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  Everybody has like mandatory.

• 26:15Joe Rogan?

  Mandatory mushrooms.

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Mandatory mushrooms.

• 26:17Joe Rogan?

  If I become president, mandatory mushrooms, we'll have mushroom day. And afterwards, everybody's just gonna hug it out, go, I don't know what I was thinking, man, I'm sorry.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  It's like an adult vaccine.

• 26:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 26:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:28Joe Rogan?

  A vaccine for human stupidity. But I mean, that's the, our problem is that we're managing human behavior, right? We're managing, we wanna steal resources from this country because they got all the natural gas and this country's got all the minerals. We're trying to make some sort of a side deal with the rebels to overthrow the government. That's what's the, most of the problems in the world. It's people being cunts.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  The, hold on, hold on, before I forget this.

• 26:53Joe Rogan?

  What do you got?

• 26:53Speaker 02

  I got wrappers. You said two things.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Earlier.

• 26:59Joe Rogan?

  You're right.

• 27:00Speaker 02

  That was the most minor interpretation.

• 27:02Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 27:03Speaker 02

  And then right now you said, uh, what'd you say? Cure, uh, stupidity?

• 27:10Joe Rogan?

  Human stupidity.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  The cure for human stupidity?

• 27:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 27:14Speaker 02

  Cure for human stupidity?

• 27:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Minor interpretation, the most minor interpretation, that should be the title of my next special. And Cure for Human Stupidity should be the title for your next special.

• 27:26Joe Rogan?

  There's no cure, but we need to, we need to guide a larger percentage of people in the right direction. And that, like, worldwide, would, that'd be the only way we, we save this, this experiment of the human race. The only other way is AI. AI is a way that might save us or make us obsolete.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  Yo, um, AI, that's some scary shit. Cause I, uh, I wa, I don't know if it's real. I saw this video, I don't know how, when, when it was shot or like, how recent or not recent it is. Because I just, I mean, all I'm watching is just Instagram reels, right?

• 28:04Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  It's a minute, at, at the longest, it's like a minute long. So, this could be a, a minute from some movie from 2002.

• 28:12Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 28:13Speaker 02

  Or it could have been recorded. But there's a video, supposedly the, they said, "The Godfather of AI warns people about the dangers of AI." But I'm like, why, like, if that's real, if, if whoever it was like behind AI, whatever team it was, is like, "Hey, but be careful with this." It's like, why'd you make it then? Like, I feel like they just did it to jerk themselves off, like a, like a real Oppenheimer thing, where he's like, "Now I become Death Destroyer of World War." It's like, why'd you do it then? You know what I mean?

• 28:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's the same kind of thing in that you have to do it because if you don't do it, your enemy's gonna do it. If your enemy's gonna hold it, the whole world is very different. The idea is that if America does it, America, we kind of suck in some ways. We suck with some of the things that we do with other countries. We suck with some of the ways we spend our taxes, but we're the best out there. We're the best option right now. It's the best way to run the world. It's the best way to behave in terms of like your freedoms, having as much freedom as possible. No countries have this combination of freedom of speech, First Amendment, Second Amendment. There's a lot of rights that we have in this country that are just different than the whole rest of the world. I think it's the best way to do it. And we

• 29:24Joe Rogan?

  like to think of ourselves as being the most benevolent of all the superpowers. We're the best ones. The other ones are evil. They're communist. They're run by dictators. We're trying, like, that's why everybody's afraid of Trump being a dictator. We don't want any dictators in this country. So if we develop AI first, we won. That's good. Just like we developed the nuclear bomb, we dropped a couple of them and said, now back the fuck off. We're done here. We don't want to do this anymore. And then we never did it again. So that's good. Now, if Germany had developed the atomic bomb first and nuked Britain and nuked America and just went on a nuking spree before we could ever develop one, imagine how different the world would be.

• 30:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. You ever watch those videos, the AI videos of like two celebrities making out? It'll be like Elon Musk kissing like Brad Pitt or something, Trump, you know?

• 30:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've seen those.

• 30:17Speaker 02

  I feel like we had to make a couple of those and then tell the world like, all right, now back the fuck off. We did that.

• 30:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Do you know how many times they blew up atomic bombs for tests, though, after that? I'm learning more and more about that recently. I'm reading this new book right now by this guy, Richard Dolan, is a UFO researcher. And he's talking about one of the things that they were doing was um they were doing altitude detonations. So they were detonating these nuclear bombs a hundred and fifty miles above earth. They did a bunch of them. They did it like a bunch of times.

• 30:50Speaker 02

  And then was it doesn't it stay in the air?

• 30:54Joe Rogan?

  They didn't even know. They were just experimenting and testing. There's a bunch of shit they did that is so wild. You know, like John Wayne did a movie um in the Nevada desert near where the test sites were where they they blew up like, I don't know how many hundreds of fucking nuclear bombs out there. They blew up tons of nuclear bombs.

• 31:13Speaker 02

  And then John Wayne just went out there and.

• 31:16Joe Rogan?

  The whole cast got cancer.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  The whole cast?

• 31:18Joe Rogan?

  The whole cast got cancer. John Wayne died of cancer, like a giant percentage of the people that worked on the show on that movie got cancer. See if you can find that the results of that.

• 31:26Speaker 02

  Imagine being on the team who's like sending the nukes into the air and you just kind of see like the clouds stay in the air. Like I wonder who's the first guy to be like, ah shit.

• 31:36Joe Rogan?

  They didn't even understand that. There no one had been, no one had been subject to large scale radiation before. It was a new thing, especially from a detonation. It had never happened before. There was no meltdowns yet. There was no Three Mile Island or Fukushima yet. Uh nineteen eighty article in People Magazine reported that out of the two hundred and twenty cast and crew members, ninety one had contacted cancer contracted cancer with forty six deaths. Led to the film being dubbed an RKO radioactive picture. The controversy surrounding the film location and subsequent health issues has been a point of discussion and debate amongst historians and scientists. But yeah, like the amount of bombs that they detonated.

• 32:21Speaker 02

  Was it a good movie at least?

• 32:23Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it was. It might have been that Genghis Khan movie. Was it the Genghis Khan movie? Oh, it was a piece of shit.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  What is that movie rated on Rotten Tomatoes?

• 32:30Joe Rogan?

  It has to be a zero. It's so bad. It's John Wayne playing a Mongolian, which is the craziest thing of all time. It was the the ultimate whitewashing.

• 32:40Speaker 02

  He's doing Mongolian face.

• 32:42Joe Rogan?

  And he talks like this, ten percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  This is what you got cancer for, John Wayne?

• 32:49Joe Rogan?

  I know, you got cancer for the worst, the conqueror. And look how hot she is. She's like completely European looking, his girlfriend. Like, play some of this, because it's so stupid. Yeah, fall off the horse. Look how hot she is. Woo.

• 33:03Speaker 02

  She's all impressed by him.

• 33:04Joe Rogan?

  And he just took her clothes off.

• 33:08Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 33:12Joe Rogan?

  Look how bad this is.

• 33:26Speaker 01

  Before that day dawns, Mongol, the vultures will feast it on your heart.

• 33:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh shit. Bro, I mean, come on, this is the dumbest movie ever to gain John Wayne cancer.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  Bro.

• 33:42Joe Rogan?

  It's so bad. Like, how bad is that movie?

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Women always talk about how like, um, oh, like I was reading this article where they were trying to trash F1.

• 33:52Joe Rogan?

  The movie?

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, and they were like, oh, another movie where the only woman working, because like the girl in the movie, she is, she's like the first, uh, what is she, like the team director or something for an F1 team, like first woman with her? It's like, and she doesn't, uh, you know, like she doesn't level up until Brad Pitt unlocks her potential, like, oh, like we need a man for that. But it's like, bro, women have the best roles in movies.

• 34:20Joe Rogan?

  Not in that movie.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, she got, she got hit pretty hard, but if you think about it, this is a movie about like, oh, Genghis Khan conquering so much, but the best thing he conquered was the woman. Like, really? You know what I mean? Like, the woman's always like the main prize of the movie.

• 34:37Joe Rogan?

  Well, throughout history, that's one of the things that people did go to war for.

• 34:41Speaker 02

  Women?

• 34:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure. Nobody went to war for some dude's butt.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  A lot of, I feel like a lot of war could have been prevented then if like porn had just came around way sooner.

• 34:54Joe Rogan?

  No, cuz porn's out now and there's still plenty of war.

• 34:57Speaker 02

  That's true. So why are they going to war for now?

• 34:59Joe Rogan?

  Resources. All it is is like tricking people, tricking people into doing something for you.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  Women and resources, man. Women and resources. When are we gonna learn?

• 35:09Joe Rogan?

  It's just money, man.

• 35:10Speaker 02

  There's enough women and resources for everybody.

• 35:12Joe Rogan?

  There's not, though.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Nah? There's at least enough women.

• 35:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they're not the same. Here's the thing. For women, I think the number is women are only attracted to 20% of the men. So like 100% of the women out there are only attracted to 20% of the men.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  That kinda makes it fun, you know? You gotta hope you're into 20%.

• 35:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but if you're not, you're fucked.

• 35:37Speaker 02

  If you're not, you just go to war?

• 35:38Joe Rogan?

  And there's more of those dudes that are in the 80% now than ever in history that we can, that we know of, right? Like, isn't there, like, when they do the studies of the amount of people right now currently that are celibate, that are not having any sex at all and not by their own decision, not by their choice, I think they're higher now than they've been in a long time.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  People are going celibate?

• 36:03Joe Rogan?

  On accident.

• 36:06Joe Rogan?

  They just know that they're unfuckable. Nobody wants to fuck them.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Celibacy?

• 36:10Joe Rogan?

  That's real, man. That's like a real problem. A bunch of people are just sitting at home and watching TV all day and ordering DoorDash.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  I think you gotta like split your time up, you know what I mean? I think celibacy could be good for like, like a week or two and then you gotta be like, alright, no more DoorDash. Let's get out there.

• 36:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, just get out there. Stop being a pussy.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  Get married or, you know, get into relationships, have an affair.

• 36:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, don't be just jerking off all day. That's crazy.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  I actually wanna write a self-help book, but not like a real one, like a, maybe like a joke one, you know?

• 36:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  But something that, I don't think my stand-up comedy would ever give me cancelled, but I think maybe like a book. But I wanna call it something like, like, you're not autistic, you're just 25 and like an asshole, or something like that. And then the whole book just tell people like, get off your ass, man. Like, stop making excuses.

• 37:01Joe Rogan?

  What do you do for actual autistic people that read that book, though? Like, hey, he says I'm not autistic.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  I'm like, you're not autistic then, believe what you want.

• 37:10Joe Rogan?

  How many people do you think are autistic? What percentage?

• 37:12Speaker 02

  Um, I don't know. I feel like probably a lot, but I think there's like.

• 37:17Joe Rogan?

  A bunch of people are saying they're autistic so that they get like extra credit.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think it's like, I think it's like being like, like, what do you call it, like Apache or whatever?

• 37:27Joe Rogan?

  Or Cherokee?

• 37:28Speaker 02

  Where you're just like, oh yeah, I'm like one eighth.

• 37:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. I'm one eighth autistic.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:34Joe Rogan?

  I'm kinda psychic.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, so I think if you come up on the spectrum, it doesn't mean you're like enough. Yeah, like you, you've seen people with like full blown autism and the struggles they have to go through in life. Like, somebody has to be in their life, you know what I mean, like to.

• 37:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for nonverbal people, yeah.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, or like, just whatever, but you can't like be a, a, a, a, you can't just like wake up, you know, play video games, go do stuff on your own, and then like use autism as an excuse for other stuff you don't wanna do, like, ah, I didn't wanna shake that guy's hand, cuz I'm just like autistic, like.

• 38:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Like, motherfucker, just look at the person in the face. Don't look them in the eyes, just look them in the face or something. Just don't be rude. Like, I feel like a lot, I feel like a lot of, and maybe it's because the way I grew up, but like, if I tried to use autism as an excuse to get out of doing stuff, I think I just would've got smacked in the back of the head. I think they would've smacked the autism out of me, you know what I mean? The one eighth at least.

• 38:30Joe Rogan?

  I don't think I have any autism in me.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  No?

• 38:32Joe Rogan?

  Unfortunately.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Why you say unfortunately?

• 38:35Joe Rogan?

  Maybe it helped with math, helped with numbers. Jamie?

• 38:39Speaker 02

  Like Rain Man? I think Jamie's autistic. How does he, how does he, maybe not autistic, he just knows how your brain works? How does he know to highlight the exact sentences you should read?

• 38:50Joe Rogan?

  What's the difference between, um, because he's smart. What's the difference between, and he's been doing this forever. What's the difference between Asperger's and autism, like the technical difference?

• 39:01Joe Rogan?

  Cuz like, they're kinda interchangeable, right?

• 39:03Speaker 02

  Are they both like communication type?

• 39:06Joe Rogan?

  A lot of times people say the spectrum, they call it the spectrum. Like, oh, he's on the spectrum. Oh, okay. Where? Like, spectrum could be anywhere. Like, you be, you could be like, you got of a touch, just a touch of the tism. You know, or you could be like, full-blown. I don't know if this is official, but here's an explanation. Key characters, alright. Um, in autism, significant delays in language, maybe non-verbal or have limited speech. Um, Asperger's typically no language delay, advanced vocabulary for age. Interesting. Um, autism varies widely from intellectual disability to above-average intelligence. And then Asperger's usually average to above-average intelligence.

• 39:47Joe Rogan?

  Uh, autism, social interaction difficulties, may show less interest in engagement. And then Asperger's desires social interaction but struggles with social cues and non-verbal communication. So it seems like Asperger's is like the upgraded autism.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 40:05Joe Rogan?

  It's like autism is too risky, you could, you know, you get a kid who's non-verbal, but go with Asperger's, you might get a genius.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Everybody wants autism, though.

• 40:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, I think they really would want Asperger's if you showed it to them. It's like Cialis versus Viagra.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, if they knew.

• 40:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if they knew.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  I think people use autism as like, oh, look, I'm not average, I'm actually high-functioning autism. Like, I'm actually a genius in this class.

• 40:31Joe Rogan?

  Right. People definitely use, they love to be a victim of something. They love to have some sort of an ailment that you don't know about, you know? People love that.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  I'm not, I'm not like that. I'm diabetic, I never tell people.

• 40:45Joe Rogan?

  Are you full-blown diabetic?

• 40:46Speaker 02

  Full-blown.

• 40:47Joe Rogan?

  Type one?

• 40:47Speaker 02

  Not like, not like with the autism thing. Yeah, type one.

• 40:52Joe Rogan?

  Um, so you're born with it?

• 40:53Speaker 02

  No. I got it when I was like, six.

• 40:56Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 40:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:57Joe Rogan?

  Type one when you're six? That's crazy.

• 40:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:00Joe Rogan?

  You know, they just cured type one diabetes in a woman with stem cells.

• 41:04Speaker 02

  What?

• 41:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was the first of its kind. Was it China that did this? See if you can find it, Jamie. Um, but yeah, you know, they're, they're using stem cells to try to treat all sorts of different things, and one of the things that they were really successful was with this lady. They cured for the first time ever, type one diabetes.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  How do they give you the stem cells?

• 41:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a good question.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  Smoke it in a pipe?

• 41:26Joe Rogan?

  No, I think they inject it into you. Um, but-

• 41:29Speaker 02

  It's not too bad.

• 41:30Joe Rogan?

  But if this, I mean, you might not have to take insulin. Do you take insulin right now?

• 41:34Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 41:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you might not have to take insulin. They might be able to fix you.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  How do I get these stem cells?

• 41:39Joe Rogan?

  Let's see what it says. What is the?

• 41:42Joe Rogan?

  It says, "World's first stem cell therapy reverses diabetes." So where was it from? Where did it happen?

• 41:51Joe Rogan?

  Groundbreaking title in Peking University. They took cells from three people with type 1 diabetes and reverted them to pluripotent state, meaning they could develop into any type of cell. This technique originally developed by Shinya Yamanaka at Kyoto University nearly 20 years ago was modified by Deng's team to use small molecules instead of proteins, allowing for better control. They used these chemically reprogrammed stem cells to create 3D clusters of insulin-producing isolates, which were tested for safety in animals. In June of 2023, the team transplanted about 1.5 million isolates into a woman's abdominal muscles. A new approach, as most isolate transplants are done in the liver. By placing the cells in the abdomen,

• 42:36Joe Rogan?

  they could monitor them with an MRI and remove them if necessary. The operation took less than 30 minutes. Two and a half months after her transplant, the woman with type 1 diabetes started producing enough insulin on her own. And she has continued to do so for over a year. How about that? Her blood sugar levels are stable 98% of the time, eliminating dangerous spikes and drops. That's crazy.

• 43:00Speaker 02

  What? This was in China?

• 43:03Joe Rogan?

  I believe so, yeah.

• 43:04Speaker 02

  It's badass.

• 43:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 43:05Speaker 02

  What if I met this doctor and he was like, "All right, I'll do the operation on you, but you have to say my name correctly the first time."

• 43:13Speaker 02

  It was Yamanaka Shimya?

• 43:15Joe Rogan?

  Practice it. I would say, "Practice it if you want to not have diabetes." What kind of question is that?

• 43:21Speaker 02

  Shinya Yamanaka.

• 43:23Joe Rogan?

  They might be able to hook you up.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  All right.

• 43:25Joe Rogan?

  What do you think?

• 43:26Speaker 02

  I don't know. How do I? Like, how do you even start that process? You just go to China?

• 43:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you gotta go to China right now. Get out of here. Get on a plane.

• 43:34Speaker 02

  I gotta finish this press tour. I'll cure diabetes after.

• 43:39Joe Rogan?

  I bet it's gonna be mainstream within a few years. If that worked and that's reproducible.

• 43:46Speaker 02

  Dude, I want to go to China now, for real, and like...

• 43:49Joe Rogan?

  It'll probably be in America, too. Because what they're saying, the way they're laying it out, it sounds like there's a paper on it. And that thing that was that a published paper?

• 43:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's called VX880.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  I guess I should probably wait until they do like a few more patients, right? It's like PS5s, like you wanna let the first round go out first with the ones with the bugs and stuff.

• 44:13Joe Rogan?

  Nah, fuck it. I would go right in there. Let's go. Let's see. See if you could fix me.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 44:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you don't just deal with shooting insulin all the time. That's annoying. How often do you have to do it?

• 44:23Speaker 02

  Ah, before a meal, and I usually eat about three times a day.

• 44:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so you have to give yourself three injections a day. That's annoying.

• 44:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:30Joe Rogan?

  And since you were six, you've been doing that?

• 44:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:32Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm a little tired of it.

• 44:36Joe Rogan?

  Does it, yeah, this might be it, man. This might be able to fix you.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  What if I missed the shots, though? Like...

• 44:42Speaker 00

  Here's a trial I think they've done in the US with 12 people.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Oh, they did a trial with 12 people?

• 44:48Joe Rogan?

  Mmm.

• 44:49Speaker 00

  12 participants.

• 44:49Joe Rogan?

  Demonstrated engraftment with glucose-responsive endogenous... Endogenosgenous? Endogena... Endog...

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Indigenous.

• 45:00Joe Rogan?

  Why can't I say indigenous? Like, how did I not read that correctly? Endogenous C-peptide production, which is durable through one year of follow-up. Wow.

• 45:10Speaker 02

  What does that mean?

• 45:11Joe Rogan?

  That means a year of follow-up, it was still working. Had a reduction in exogenous insulin use, meaning reduction in daily insulin use by 92%. So they still had to take a little bit of insulin sometimes. So I bet this is something that you could probably do more than one time.

• 45:29Speaker 00

  These were all off of one dose. They got one shot, one infusion.

• 45:32Joe Rogan?

  So for full dose, and then you have a complete reduction in insulin reduce reduction. So it says 83% of them no longer required insulin at month 12. That's nuts. 83% of all the people they tested didn't require insulin a year later. That's amazing. You gotta get in on that, dog.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like, I don't even know who to talk to.

• 45:56Joe Rogan?

  We'll find out. We'll ask afterwards.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 45:59Joe Rogan?

  For real, you should probably find out, like, maybe there's another trial they're doing. Yeah, I would get involved in that trial. That seems like totally reasonable.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:09Joe Rogan?

  Unless, I would, well, I'd talk to a scientist first. I'd like to talk to some people that are concerned about things.

• 46:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, you always talk to the person who's like against the plan.

• 46:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's always some side effect that you don't take into consideration, like, oh, well, if you do that, here's the problem, it also does this. You're like, oh, no.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  I don't, yeah, I don't know, but what if I don't even, like, what if I suck after I'm cured?

• 46:32Joe Rogan?

  What are you talking about, Ralph?

• 46:32Speaker 02

  What if it just changes me?

• 46:34Joe Rogan?

  What are you saying?

• 46:35Speaker 02

  What if I just don't know how to act afterwards, you know? Honestly, living without diabetes, that would go to my head so fast.

• 46:42Joe Rogan?

  You'd get cocky?

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd drop people out of my life. Fuck I need you for, I'm healthy.

• 46:49Joe Rogan?

  You'd be, I've heard people say things like that before, like, if, if I fix this, maybe I won't be funny anymore. Or if I fix this, maybe my life won't be good anymore.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  Nah, honestly, I could use something life-changing. I got like writer's block real bad right now. Yeah, I'm like un, I'm like unmotivated with new stand-up. I was reading that book you got out there. I never.

• 47:11Joe Rogan?

  The War of Art?

• 47:11Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no.

• 47:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the Hunter S. Thompson book?

• 47:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hunter S. Thompson was a dude or was he a chick?

• 47:18Joe Rogan?

  You don't know who Hunter S. Thompson is?

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Nah, but I kinda have heard of Thompson's work through, I read in the, like, before the book actually starts, it's like other books by Hunter S. Thompson and, uh.

• 47:31Joe Rogan?

  Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

• 47:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, uh, what is it, Rum Diary or something? So it's a dude, alright. Nah, that dude's good.

• 47:43Joe Rogan?

  What did you take before you came here?

• 47:46Joe Rogan?

  You're on sleeping pills or something? What the fuck is going on?

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Nah, man, I'm sober. I just woke up and came here.

• 47:51Joe Rogan?

  Um, yeah, Hunter S. Thompson's a very famous writer from the countercultural movement.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  He wrote this paragraph in that book, man, and.

• 47:59Joe Rogan?

  That's Johnny Japp, he played him in that movie.

• 48:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, good old Johnny Depp, man.

• 48:03Joe Rogan?

  That's a fun fucking movie. I don't know if you've ever seen it.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  I've seen most of it.

• 48:07Joe Rogan?

  Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:08Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking great. It's a great movie, and the book is really great, too. He was a fascinating guy, like, probably one of my, not probably, one of my favorite authors ever.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  He, he, that book that's out there, you said it's a first edition?

• 48:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  It's like, uh, diaries of his, right? Like, he just kinda wrote his thoughts and like what he did throughout that day. Um, Charles Bukowski has a book like that.

• 48:29Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Uh, what is it? What is it called? Like, The Captain Is Out to Lunch?

• 48:33Joe Rogan?

  Something like that, right?

• 48:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, Felipe Esparza put me onto that book.

• 48:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  I read, and I did his podcast. Uh, he, he has a couple Charles Bukowski books in his little library and...

• 48:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no shit?

• 48:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:45Joe Rogan?

  Shout out to Felipe, I love that dude.

• 48:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude's so talented.

• 48:49Joe Rogan?

  Friends with him forever. The Captain Is Out to Lunch and the Sailors Have Taken Over the Ship, Charles Bukowski.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it's, it's kinda like that Hunter S. Thompson book. And, uh, in both, in both of those, I like, I like both of those books a lot. I've read, like, half of that one. I'm gonna buy that one. The, but I like what Hunter Thompson, he said, uh, he, cause he's, he's talked about being in this hotel room. Uh, and he says, "Living on pills, phone calls unmade, people unseen, pages unwritten, money unmade, pressure piling up all around to make some kind of breakthrough and get moving again. Get the gun off the rails, finish something, croak this awful habit of not ever getting to the end of anything."

• 49:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:31Speaker 02

  Dude, that's, man.

• 49:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  I feel like I'm there right now.

• 49:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  But, I don't know if I care as much as he did, cause he at least wrote about it, and I've just kinda been like, ah, I'll get to it.

• 49:40Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're a lot younger, first of all. And, it, second of all, like, he was already a successful writer that was trying to like, get the, the fire stoked, you know? That's the thing, this is a great book. You can keep this. Um, I have, oh, that's not it. I'm sorry. I thought that was The War of Art. We have piles of them.

• 50:01Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I saw it out there.

• 50:02Joe Rogan?

  We have, uh, Steven Pressfield gave me a whole box of them. I'll give you a copy when we leave.

• 50:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:06Joe Rogan?

  That's a book that will help you a lot, because it's basically just about that. The book is just about overcoming this resistance that people have to work. It's hard. It's hard to make yourself work.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  It is. Well, I like I I have this thing where like I can't help but to like obsess on a subject and lose a lot of interest in another subject or other subjects. But like I I I mean, yeah, I choose what I like or whatever, you know what I mean? But like to a degree, that makes sense? So like, it's like chasing butterflies. Like sometimes it's like that yellow butterfly, like I just gotta keep fucking fucking with this butterfly right here. And there's so many other butterflies around. But then sometimes it's the blue one. So like comedy is like the blue butterfly and then like other shit is like other butterflies. I started an automotive YouTube channel with my buddy.

• 50:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's not super big, but it's so fun. And it's just like little challenges that I find in it. You know, like learn this, learn how to do that, learn how to do this.

• 51:09Joe Rogan?

  In automotive in terms of like repairing stuff?

• 51:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, we put a we got a nineteen eighty nine two forty S X. It's my buddy's car. He bought it for like six hundred bucks. And uh, he wants to put an LS in it, but before putting the LS in it, he wanted to blow up the original motor. So we put nitrous and turbo on it, but without tuning it. So there's there's no computer telling it like how to do it safely or or like efficiently. So it's just like.

• 51:35Joe Rogan?

  God.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  And we didn't blow up the motor. We blew up the coupler for the turbo though. So like, and the motor sucks now, like it won't stay on.

• 51:43Joe Rogan?

  So this is a Nissan?

• 51:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, an eighty nine Nissan two forty.

• 51:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 51:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's it's a horrible.

• 51:49Joe Rogan?

  Why'd you choose that year?

• 51:51Speaker 02

  That's my friend's car. He just.

• 51:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he just had it laying around?

• 51:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, everything we find is pretty much Facebook Marketplace.

• 51:56Joe Rogan?

  Okay, and so then you're gonna drop an LS into that?

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, we might, but maybe. Look, that's the channel, Formula Bean.

• 52:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, we chose that name because like I feel like Formula One is like, like, you know, it's like pinnacle of racing and they have all these such intelligent engineers working on these cars and they make these great motors and stuff. And I feel like this is the exact opposite.

• 52:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh dude, you're doing some real cars. You LS swapped an R thirty four GTR?

• 52:21Speaker 02

  Uh, that's more like clickbait. It's just sitting in the car. We didn't like hook it up or nothing. We had to take that car to get aligned.

• 52:28Joe Rogan?

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• 54:37Joe Rogan?

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• 54:56Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. He got that. He got a deal on that car.

• 54:58Joe Rogan?

  They're hard to get, man. They they couldn't import them into the United States until like

• 55:03Speaker 02

  It's a few years ago.

• 55:03Joe Rogan?

  Twenty-five years after the production, right? So they were, the people have done shit like that before. I've got, I went down a rabbit hole the other day of uh Skyline. Like mods and all the different things that people have done to Skylines. This is one dude, he has this insane metallic, deep purple, like a dark purple.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, midnight purple three probably.

• 55:27Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it is so beautiful.

• 55:30Speaker 02

  It's like a, it's like a big, it's like a cardinal sin though to put a LS in a Skyline.

• 55:34Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right. You want to use a Japanese engine.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. The RB, it's the original Skyline motor. So that's a, that's an R thirty-four GTT. So that comes with the RB twenty-five. The GT-R, which is like the super famous, the super expensive one, comes with the RB twenty-six, but.

• 55:49Joe Rogan?

  So you really know your shit, man.

• 55:51Speaker 02

  I'm learning.

• 55:52Joe Rogan?

  I have an R thirty-five. I have an Ismo.

• 55:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. You told me one time, I think. One guy tried to sell me one of those, but I couldn't do it. It was too, it was out of my price range. I have, I have an R thirty-five too, but not an Ismo.

• 56:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, you could, the thing about R thirty-fives is you could turn it into exactly what an Ismo is.

• 56:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:08Joe Rogan?

  I mean, everything is moddable.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:11Joe Rogan?

  These cars have been around for so long and the community of modders. For both them and a lot of JDM vehicles, like Supras. Like the two forty, two forty Z's, the old ones. There's a whole company now that is in the UK. That takes uh Nissan or Datsun, it was back when it was Datsun, Datsun two forties. And turns them into these fucking sick streamlined sports cars. With like wider tires, much more horsepower, super lightweight.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  See, I like to do that.

• 56:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's so exciting. I love Japanese sports cars because you get the best of both worlds. You get performance and reliability. Like, if you get like a GTR, those are like one of the most reliable cars you can buy. And it's ridiculously fast. That's my shit right there, son.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  I, uh.

• 57:07Joe Rogan?

  That's what I have.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  You ever taken to a track?

• 57:09Joe Rogan?

  Um, I have not taken the GTR to a track.

• 57:12Speaker 02

  You got a Nismo, you gotta take it to a track, bro.

• 57:14Joe Rogan?

  I know, but I only been to a track a few times and the last time I went, um, was a Corvette thing. I went with them. Um, um, we're actually gonna build a, a track, um, rather, a studio on the track.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah?

• 57:26Joe Rogan?

  That's our next move, yeah. We're gonna build a studio at Coda. So we're gonna have two studios. We're gonna have a regular studio here and then we're gonna have a studio at the Circuit of the Americas.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  That's fucking sick.

• 57:37Joe Rogan?

  We're gonna be able to take people around the track and then do a podcast right afterwards.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  Hey, hire me as a driver.

• 57:44Joe Rogan?

  Uh, can you drive? Are you good?

• 57:45Speaker 02

  I do okay. I got the fastest lap time at Speed Vegas. You ever been there?

• 57:49Joe Rogan?

  Did you really?

• 57:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:50Joe Rogan?

  The fastest?

• 57:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, for like a few hours and then some dude beat me.

• 57:54Joe Rogan?

  What were you driving?

• 57:55Speaker 02

  Uh, Porsche GT3 RS.

• 57:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 57:57Speaker 02

  I was competing against my, uh, co-host on the channel there, my buddy Luis. It's a username underscore AF on Instagram. Horrible username, but anyway, we both got the, the same car, the Porsche, to like compare lap times.

• 58:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, nice.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  I had him beat by like eight seconds or something like that.

• 58:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, he probably doesn't know how to drive it. Also, those cars get a little scary. The rear, rear engine.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  I mean, you have an instructor just telling you what to do.

• 58:21Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 58:22Speaker 02

  But I didn't.

• 58:23Joe Rogan?

  You hit the gas harder.

• 58:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I broke a little later.

• 58:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Hit the gas a little harder. I almost spun out, but I, I wanted to find like the limit to the car. Um, but yeah, I want, on my like second lap, I almost spun the car out, but I was able to keep it.

• 58:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, those cars are just designed entirely for racing. That's a crazy car that you can get, a race car for the street. When we went, the last time we went to Coda, we went for Corvette. So Corvette has the new ZR1 and, uh.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  It holds the record, right?

• 58:53Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 58:53Speaker 02

  At, uh, what track was it?

• 58:54Joe Rogan?

  Nürburgring.

• 58:55Speaker 02

  Nürburgring.

• 58:55Joe Rogan?

  It holds the record in basically every single track that it's ever entered into.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 59:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're just, just, it's a thousand horsepower from the factory. And then the record at Nürburgring that they did, which is the record only for American cars. It's uh, for the ZR1X, I believe it's, I believe the time is 6 minutes 49 seconds, which is insanely fast and it wasn't driven by a professional driver. It was driven by the engineer. Yes, the engineer broke the American lap time record. So everyone else is using Formula One drivers, they're using the sickest drivers on earth to get the most amount of time. So a professional driver that I follow, this guy, uh, I forget his last name, Misha something or another, on YouTube, he analyzed the footage and he said, "You could shave 10 seconds off this." Yeah.

• 59:45Joe Rogan?

  Which is crazy. Yeah, oh, here it goes. Pro driver says Corvette ZR1 could have gone 10 seconds faster at Nürburgring. Who is it that said that? Was it more than one pro driver said that? No, Misha. This guy. This guy's great. I follow his- Oh, I follow him. Yes. What is his uh, channel called? Let's give him a shout out, young Jamie. 10 seconds in the world of racing, that's like a lot. That's, that's, that's a lot. Uh, so it's Misha, M-I-S-H-A, and the last name, I don't know how to pronounce it, is C-H-R-O-U-D-I-N. Uh, Sh- Shaur- Shaurudin? How would you say that? Uh... Shaurudin? Shaurudin. Shaurudin? Uh, anyway, cool guy, great channel, it's dope.

• 1:00:26Joe Rogan?

  So he analyzed it and he drives that track all the time, like his whole channel- He takes people on rides at that track, right? And he's a nasty driver. He drives wicked. It's fun watching him. He looks so calm too, man. He's just hauling ass. Well, he knows that track like the back of his hand. He's always at the Nürburgring. He does track days on there all the time. So he drives a whole bunch of crazy cars, including GTRs, all kinds of crazy shit. Different things that people have put together and modded and... So it says, "With someone more comfortable with the car," he's like, uh, "A sub 6 minute and 40 second time," which is what they achieved, "is relatively easy and possible," he would say. He said, "Maybe they've already done a lap with a pro driver and will release later when they find it necessary."

• 1:01:09Joe Rogan?

  So what Corvette likes to do though, they like to- Do their lap times with the people who built the car. Cause they feel like the people who built the car like intimately connected instead of farming it off to some Formula One psychopath. Get the actual guys who designed and engineered the car and if these guys are breaking records. They're great drivers, don't get me wrong. I drove with one of them and when we were at Cota.

• 1:01:34Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 1:01:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and I drove the car. I drove that ZR1. It's the best car I've ever driven in my life.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:01:39Joe Rogan?

  I've driven a lot of cars.

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  Takes corners badass?

• 1:01:41Joe Rogan?

  It's insane. It's insane. It's got the power like an electric car. The acceleration is bananas. It's nuts. It's zero to sixty in under two seconds. It fucking flies.

• 1:01:54Speaker 02

  That's scary.

• 1:01:55Joe Rogan?

  And it's massive downforce, huge wheels, sticky tires. And you're going around these corners like you can't believe the amount of grip it has and the stability of it, the balance of it.

• 1:02:06Speaker 02

  What kind of tires do they put on those?

• 1:02:07Joe Rogan?

  They're cup tires. Um, I don't know what the exact, I believe they're, I don't wanna say, but I think they're Michelin cups.

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  I wish I knew how to like fabricate my own suspension for cars.

• 1:02:19Joe Rogan?

  Really? You'd wanna do all that?

• 1:02:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I wanna learn. I mean, I don't wanna make my own suspension. I kind of, I mean, maybe one day, I don't know. I do wanna learn how to fabricate other parts, easier parts, but I feel like

• 1:02:32Speaker 02

  all the cars I buy, that's like the, the most important thing to me is like handling.

• 1:02:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  I bought a, uh, shout out to this dude, I'm gonna shout, I'm gonna shout out his page. He's, he's got some cool stuff on YouTube. Krusty, uh, what is it? Krusty Classics Garage? Let me make sure I'm getting that right. He, uh, he sold me a nineteen seventy-three Plymouth Barracuda, but it has a front end from a seventy-one Barracuda.

• 1:02:58Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the nice front end. Four headlights.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:01Joe Rogan?

  That's the front end.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  That was bad. That's the one, yeah.

• 1:03:04Joe Rogan?

  That's the one. I have a seventy.

• 1:03:05Speaker 02

  He, uh, he less swapped it. Look, that's the one. That's the one I bought. I love that car.

• 1:03:11Joe Rogan?

  That looks like a seventy. Oh, that's the original front end. That's the original front end before they swapped it out.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  No, no, no, that's the

• 1:03:16Joe Rogan?

  Seventy-three.

• 1:03:17Speaker 02

  Seventy-one front end.

• 1:03:19Joe Rogan?

  It looks, it looks like, no, that's not, because it only has one headlight on each side.

• 1:03:23Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, you, you know, you're right. That's before they swapped it.

• 1:03:25Joe Rogan?

  Seventy-three.

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, they wrecked into him. He had to swap it.

• 1:03:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I see, I see.

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:30Joe Rogan?

  My mom had a seventy-one when I was a kid.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:03:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  Dude, your mom was kicking ass.

• 1:03:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was pretty dope. Dope car. I learned how to drive on it.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  That car, he LS swapped it. And the suspension is pretty tight, but uh, when I got to, it has no speedometer, so when I got it to like, what I assume is somewhere over a hundred, uh, yeah, the steering wheel became a little scary.

• 1:03:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're super loose.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  The front end is so like light.

• 1:03:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's also the steering sucks. Their, their steering was so vague.

• 1:04:00Speaker 02

  He has like aftermarket on it, like, I just, I don't know what he did to it. I gotta take a deeper look into it. I bought it and then just hauled ass back to Dallas.

• 1:04:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:09Speaker 02

  And once I got on a, once I got on the highway closer to my house, a Camry was getting cocky. So I was just like, nah, I gotta show them.

• 1:04:16Joe Rogan?

  A Camry?

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:18Joe Rogan?

  A Camry was getting cocky? Oh, that looks great with that 71 front end. That 71 front end is gorgeous.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, look, that's, I think that's when we bought it.

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  My friend Brigham has a 71. It's badass. It's so nice.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  This dude has everything LS swapped. He has people sending him work from like other states even.

• 1:04:35Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, this dude does good work.

• 1:04:37Joe Rogan?

  But he LS swapped into a Barracuda? Ooh.

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, that's like more blasphemy, like the, like the thing we did with the Skyline, like.

• 1:04:45Joe Rogan?

  Um, you wanna see the dopest Barracuda you've ever seen?

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, hell yeah.

• 1:04:48Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, pull up mine.

• 1:04:49Speaker 02

  Oh shit.

• 1:04:50Joe Rogan?

  I had one made by Roadster Shop. This is the craziest Barracuda ever.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  Roadster, they make the frames and shit, right?

• 1:04:55Joe Rogan?

  They make everything. They did everything. And they put a, oh, they put a racing engine in it, a Mercury racing engine in it.

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  Bam.

• 1:05:02Joe Rogan?

  So it's like a 9,000 RPM racing engine.

• 1:05:05Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 1:05:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's nasty. It's so crazy.

• 1:05:08Speaker 02

  That's it?

• 1:05:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That's my car. This thing is bonkers. And it's got a roll cage in it. It's all like, the interior is gorgeous.

• 1:05:25Joe Rogan?

  But it's six-speed manual transmission, but it sounds like an exotic car.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 1:05:38Joe Rogan?

  America, fuck yeah.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  Hey, you got one cup holder?

• 1:05:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:05:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fuck everybody else.

• 1:05:49Speaker 02

  My interior doesn't look as nice as that one, but... That's one thing our coolers have in common, is the cup holder.

• 1:05:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, that's all, the interior is totally different.

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  That thing is sick, bro. You have that, you got an Ismo, you have good taste.

• 1:06:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I like stuff.

• 1:06:03Speaker 02

  What's your gayest car?

• 1:06:04Joe Rogan?

  The gayest car?

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's your, what's your car that you just like?

• 1:06:07Joe Rogan?

  I guess my Tesla.

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  That one takes the cake.

• 1:06:11Joe Rogan?

  I mean, if you want to ask the average person, but I love it. I drove that today. That thing's awesome.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's your daily driver?

• 1:06:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I drive it all, I drive it all the time. It's, it's a Model S Plaid, and it's also, uh, it's customized. So this company called Unplugged Performance, they take a Model S and then they put carbon fiber fenders on it, wider track, wider tires, upgraded suspension, change the interior.

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  Hey, do you have tinted windows?

• 1:06:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  Yeah? Nobody ever recognizes you in traffic?

• 1:06:39Joe Rogan?

  People recognize me.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:06:40Joe Rogan?

  It happens.

• 1:06:41Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 1:06:41Joe Rogan?

  Usually they say hi.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:06:43Joe Rogan?

  Like, "Hey, what's up?"

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  You don't get weirdos? I feel like you'd get most weirdos out of anybody.

• 1:06:46Joe Rogan?

  You get some weirdos, but most people are nice.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  Most, yeah.

• 1:06:49Joe Rogan?

  Most people, the most people in the world, the reason why you can get on the highway and no one's just slamming into each other, and the reason why you can go to the mall and everyone's not stamping, trampeting, stampeding over people, it's because most people are nice.

• 1:07:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:02Joe Rogan?

  Most people are cool.

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  Most people are cool until they start, you know, running out of women and resources.

• 1:07:06Joe Rogan?

  Right. Incels.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  Incels.

• 1:07:08Joe Rogan?

  They get dangerous. They get on the meth, incels, they get radicalized online.

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, don't do drugs, take care of your bodies.

• 1:07:16Joe Rogan?

  What are the tires on the Corvette, Jamie? Do we look, do we find out what they are? They're super sticky. You, you'll drive it, you'll go, you'll go insane. It's the greatest car ever.

• 1:07:24Speaker 02

  Tires make a big difference, man.

• 1:07:26Joe Rogan?

  Huge difference. But it's also the mid, mid-engine. When they switched the Corvette architecture from that front engine design from the C7 to the C8, uh, Michelin, yeah, there is Pilot Sport 4S. And I think you could use cup tires too. I think. I think it's an option.

• 1:07:44Speaker 02

  Mid-engine cars, they seem to be dominating on tracks, huh?

• 1:07:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, the balance is so good. When you have that balance of the engine in front of the rear wheels, first of all, you have massive amounts of traction because all that weight is back there. There's always a problem with that front engine.

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  The only time I think the front engine can be like a mid-engine thing, I think, is if like the track has different elevations. Like, uh, like, what is it, like Laguna Seca, I think, has like a huge downhill uphill thing?

• 1:08:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, where it helps you to have the front engine bias?

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think, I mean, I'd imagine that's the only place it probably can make a difference because like when you're coming, uh, what is it like, man, I think I saw a video on it one time and I didn't have the volume up because my kid was asleep, but I'm pretty sure that's what they were talking about. Like, uh, what are, you know, on the, on the side of the track, they have like the, like the stripes, the red and white, and sometimes they go over there. You know how sometimes, yeah. So if you're going off of one of those and you're also going downhill, I'd imagine you'd want like a front engine. I think you'd get the grip faster as you're coming down.

• 1:08:49Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:08:50Speaker 02

  Whereas if the motor was in the back, I think you'd have to kind of catch your balance a little more than a front engine. I could be wrong though, I don't know.

• 1:08:56Joe Rogan?

  The motor's in the middle. See, that's the thing. The motor in the back with the Porsche, you have to learn how to use that pendulum effect as you're driving. You know, but what the guys who are really good at it though, they use it to their effect. Like they steer with the throttle. So like as they're turning, they're, they're hitting the gas, the ascent is kicking out and then they're, they're modulating it and then they're going straight. So the guys that are really good at driving Porsches, it's pretty beautiful to watch because they just know how to use that rear engine bias. But the thing about the Corvette and also the Cayman, the Cayman GT4, which is another amazing mid-engine car, is that engine in front of the rear wheel, in the center of the car, makes the car perfectly balanced.

• 1:09:37Joe Rogan?

  You just feel so confident. Even when the tires break, you feel really confident that this car is under control. And the Corvette has so much downforce. It's so well engineered. I mean, these guys gave us, before they let us drive, me and Hinchcliffe went down there and Before they let us drive, they gave us like this full tour de force explanation of the engineering involved in this car. And what the goal was, it's the most ridiculous production car that any American company's ever put out by far.

• 1:10:05Speaker 02

  The more you get into cars, the more you get into like physics and balance.

• 1:10:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  It starts off as like, oh shit, like three hundred forty horsepower and four hundred pound feet of torque. And then later on, you're just like, dude, that thing is so balanced.

• 1:10:17Joe Rogan?

  Yes, balance is everything. And really, for thrills, if you really want to enjoy a car, enjoy a car. It's not about how fast you go. Like this whole lap time thing, it's cool. Because if you like going on a track, and I do like going on a track, it's fun. And it's fun to have a car that's really good at moving around a track and driving fast. But. In the real world, what you want is sensory experiences. That's what you want out of a car.

• 1:10:44Speaker 02

  What do you mean sensory?

• 1:10:45Joe Rogan?

  You want to hear the sound, you want to feel the gears as you're shifting, you want to push the clutch in. And pop that sucker in a third and let off the clutch as you hit the gas. You want to smell it. You want to feel it. You want to. Really, you want a manual transmission and a manual steering. You don't even want power assisted steering. So you want a light car. Like an early nine eleven. If you really want to feel like what's the ultimate thrill of driving. It's a really well sorted out, air cooled nine eleven.

• 1:11:20Speaker 02

  Air cooled nine eleven?

• 1:11:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, those old Porsches are so light. You can get them to like two thousand pounds and they strip things out of them.

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  Well, those are like stupid expensive now, right?

• 1:11:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they are now. But it depends on which model. You can still get some models like the G body models. They're pretty reasonable until. People start realizing that and start scooping them up too. But there's some that don't look quite as good, but. Fuck what it looks like. Get that out of your head. What you want to just experience the car. Like when you drive, like a, you can get like a nineteen, let's find out what a, how much is a nineteen eighty-two nine eleven cost? Let's see if we can find one.

• 1:12:00Speaker 02

  I hate that. I, I just recently started getting into Porsches and I like, I hate that I like them now.

• 1:12:05Joe Rogan?

  They're great.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  They are. They're really, but they're so, but they're so expensive.

• 1:12:08Joe Rogan?

  They're so expensive.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  They're also good investments.

• 1:12:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're worth more money after you buy them than they are when you buy them. They're, this is one of the rare cars that will continue. Okay, there's a beautiful one. That one's.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, those are sick.

• 1:12:20Joe Rogan?

  That one's seventy grand. That seems like somebody has, uh, put some, they probably put some work into that one. What does it say in terms of what's been done to it? Oh my God, it only has a hundred miles on it? That's crazy.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  You know, when I first started making money, I, I felt like I was buying cars like that, that were more like collector type. But now my garage is so different because I, I don't like that.

• 1:12:44Joe Rogan?

  Jamie, don't, go back to that.

• 1:12:46Speaker 02

  I like to fucking put miles on them.

• 1:12:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no, I hear you, but this is nuts. To find an eighty-two Porsche with that, um, that low amount of miles? That's crazy. A hundred miles?

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  I would LS it. I'll buy it in LS.

• 1:13:02Speaker 02

  Hey, look, I got one of those, but not that year. Go back up, uh, yeah, Skyline right there.

• 1:13:07Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:13:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. I got a different one though. I got a.

• 1:13:10Joe Rogan?

  What one do you have?

• 1:13:11Speaker 02

  I have a, the nineteen seventy-one.

• 1:13:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's an original, but that, that car, that's one of those cars that I'm like, I don't know if I should keep it or not. Cause it's, it's so valuable as long as I don't fuck with it too much.

• 1:13:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's an investment. If I, if I had that car, if I was you, I'd just keep that sucker well maintained, don't drive it anywhere, hold on to it, enjoy it. That'd be worth a million dollars someday.

• 1:13:32Speaker 02

  I don't know. I think I'm gonna LS it.

• 1:13:36Joe Rogan?

  Does it have the original engine in it right now?

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  The original engine, yup.

• 1:13:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh man, I wouldn't fuck with it if I was you.

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  It still smells like the Japanese dude who used to drive it to work.

• 1:13:45Joe Rogan?

  This is crazy, that this car only has a hundred miles on it. So that car is not gonna be fast in comparison to a modern car, but boy, will you enjoy driving it. That is an enjoyable car. You drive that car, you feel everything. It's like, you're in a ride.

• 1:14:00Speaker 02

  I don't know what year they started doing this, but they have a...

• 1:14:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it says eight thousand miles on it.

• 1:14:05Speaker 00

  Ninety thousand, yeah.

• 1:14:06Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:14:07Speaker 00

  I didn't find it.

• 1:14:08Speaker 02

  Hundred miles on the new engine, maybe?

• 1:14:09Joe Rogan?

  Eight thousand four hundred and seventy-five, Jamie.

• 1:14:14Speaker 00

  Eight four seven five eight.

• 1:14:15Joe Rogan?

  Is that, is that the last one? Is that up to the next mile? When that goes over to zero, does that make a six?

• 1:14:22Speaker 00

  Usually it's a different number, or a different color, or something.

• 1:14:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:14:25Speaker 00

  Most cars track up to a hundred thousand, right? Yeah, maybe not. Maybe it's nine thousand.

• 1:14:30Joe Rogan?

  Like, does it go six, seven, eight, nine, sixty? Does it do that?

• 1:14:35Speaker 00

  I don't know, it's just not a hundred.

• 1:14:36Speaker 02

  Hey, that's still not bad. What year is it? Eighty-two?

• 1:14:38Joe Rogan?

  So either way, yeah, if it's an eighty-two, but that doesn't make any sense. Why, oh, I think they're saying it has a hundred miles on a rebuilt engine. Let's see what it says.

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  Something's fully restored.

• 1:14:47Joe Rogan?

  Fully restored, that's it. Okay.

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  No miles.

• 1:14:49Joe Rogan?

  Original engine, trans, fully restored, no miles. Okay, so it only has a hundred miles on the original, or the engine that's been fully restored. Okay, that makes more sense. So it's got, they're lying then. You can't say it has a hundred miles, because then all the trans, all the other shit, like the suspension, everything else has got all those miles on it. Unless you swapped out every fucking component in the car. This episode is brought to you by ShipStation. Black Friday is madness if you're shopping. But if you're the person trying to get all those orders out the door, that's a whole different kind of crazy. That's where ShipStation comes in. It's an end-to-end order fulfillment platform that brings all your orders into one place. So when volume spikes, your team isn't scrambling to keep up.

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• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  They have a weird, uh, the transmission. I don't know what year they started doing this.

• 1:16:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, the dog leg went down to one?

• 1:16:58Speaker 02

  No, no, well, the thing, it just feels different. Like, uh, I forgot, I forgot what it, what it was. My buddy bought one, the guy I run the channel with, Luis. So this is like the cheapest Porsche ever, but it looks so good. He made a whole YouTube thing about it, like he made videos on it. He got this Porsche for like, I think it was like 3,200 bucks, 3,600 bucks or something on Facebook. The dude was like, yeah, it's, it's an old seven Porsche. He's like, the motor's kaput, it's, it's no good. So my buddy goes to check it out and it has a knocking in it and the, and the, the paint is just real ugly. And, uh, he buys it, he's like, fuck it, I'm gonna just take the chance, maybe, maybe it's a simple fix. And, uh, he takes it to our buddy, Brian, back in, uh, Fort Worth to get it painted.

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  So now the paint is just brand new, but the motor still knocks. And, uh, my dad pulls up to that same shop that same day to get a truck painted and he's like, oh, what's up Luis? And they decide to race the truck, it's an Opel versus a Porsche. And Luis floors it and after he floors it, the knocking goes away, just never came back. And the motor just runs fine. So he just came up on like the cheapest Porsche.

• 1:18:08Joe Rogan?

  Do you have a video of this?

• 1:18:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, bro, it's all over like can you pull it up on the Formula Bean YouTube again? Uh, it has to be on there like.

• 1:18:16Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 1:18:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, and uh, the only thing other than that, I think was like the wheel alignment or like it was like shaky or whatever. But I think the uh, I think what he said what it was was the tires had been sitting for so long that they kinda like.

• 1:18:27Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're probably scary.

• 1:18:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:28Joe Rogan?

  You shouldn't drive on old tires, man.

• 1:18:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, we just switched them out. It's like fucking no problem. Look.

• 1:18:35Speaker 05

  And that is race a car.

• 1:18:36Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's a Cayman.

• 1:18:38Speaker 05

  After the race, it stopped making the noises. Let's change the oil and see what we find. Well, there's really two things.

• 1:18:45Speaker 02

  That's after the paint job.

• 1:18:46Speaker 05

  I put some fresh gasoline in the car and the race. I mean, if I was gonna replace the engine, why not just race it? If it blows up, it blows up. But ironically, the opposite happened. The old owner warned me that the engine needed to be replaced. And I think you can get a pretty good idea on the health of the engine by doing an oil change. One, it looks disgusting, but let's see if we see any metal shavings in there. Taking apart the old filter, I noticed a lot of sludge, but using a magnet, I don't find any metal shavings. Alright, let's go magnet fishing. Next up, let's check the oil.

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  This dude's really smart. He's, he was an engineer for Lockheed Martin.

• 1:19:22Speaker 05

  Nothing, no, nothing crazy.

• 1:19:25Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 1:19:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, so maybe he's not that smart if you let me convince him to quit, but.

• 1:19:29Joe Rogan?

  This sounds more fun.

• 1:19:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:31Speaker 05

  So what was that noise? Because of the condition of the oil, I'm thinking some sludge got stuck where it wasn't supposed to. Maybe it was a lifter tick and when I finally drove it hard, it blew out the sludge. Or maybe it was something in the clutch. Alright guys, let's see how it runs.

• 1:19:48Joe Rogan?

  How much did he pay for this?

• 1:19:50Speaker 02

  Like thirty-six hundred bucks.

• 1:19:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's insane.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  That's crazy, right?

• 1:19:53Joe Rogan?

  What a great deal. And that's a great balanced car, the Caymans. Those are super, super well-balanced.

• 1:20:00Speaker 02

  It drives really good. That's his daily driver now.

• 1:20:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's dope.

• 1:20:02Speaker 02

  That dude only buys cars if they like suck. Like he wouldn't, like you won't catch him buying something from a dealership. He's never bought something from a dealership. He has like six cars on. Yeah, the dude's fucking crazy smart. So I met him through our other content creator friend. This is a dude named Papika. Fucking hilarious dude, even funnier in, in real life. Um.

• 1:20:26Speaker 02

  We have the same media manager. So anytime Papico wants to come to my shows, you know, my manager would just get him tickets. And I'm performing in Dallas one day and Papico shows up with our other buddy Ivan and with this dude. And he's like, hey, these are my buddies are also content creators. You know, they met like at a TikTok convention or something. I don't know where content creators hang out. And uh, first thing he tells me, he's like, hey, man, let's say, let's swap your skyline. I heard you got a skyline. And those are like his favorite cars, my favorite cars. I was like, fuck, no, I would never do that. And he's like, well, if you ever wanted to do anything, just let me know. So I told him I had bought an R thirty two GTR. And I wanted to do work to it, but I was like, I want to do it. I want to, I want to learn how to fuck with it. You know what I mean?

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  I was like, can you teach me what it and I was like, I'll pay you whatever you want to teach me. He's like, all right, well, I'll go over like on such a day. Cause it was a coincidence that we both live in DFW. So he comes over the house one day and, and we start like, I think the first thing we did was maybe change the exhaust on my skyline. Or maybe it was a suspension on my Impala. I don't remember one of those things. And I was like, well, what are you going to charge me? He's like, nah, man, I don't care. He's like, it's just fun, you know, make some content from it. Like never charged. We just kept hanging out and now we've done, I don't know how many fucking projects together. We went ahead and just started the channel together. How far in did you get him to quit his job? Uh, I think like a year into knowing him. I tried after like a week of knowing him though. But he's like, I don't know, man. He's like, he, he grew up.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Um, very like, you know, you get it, you get a job, you keep your job security. Like he grew up under that. Most people. Most, yeah. And so. You're a comedian. You're like, fuck it. Yeah, I'm like, bro. Burn it down. Chase your fucking dreams. Fuck a job. There's so many jobs out there like that. I was going to be there. But he, he said even before being a content creator. He thought that was like impossible. He's like, nah, like that, that'll never work. And then, you know, just went for it and saw other of his friends, I think like Ivan, our, our barber buddy. Go for it and then like just started working. I think he made a video. I think during COVID is when he started getting a lot of following. He made a, I don't know what he made a video of, and he just kept at it. But to actually quit his job was like the next step.

• 1:22:40Joe Rogan?

  That's great, man. Look, those things are super popular and there's a real market for them. I know because I watch them all the time. I watch shows all the time online. Do you know about Stance Elements?

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  I don't think so.

• 1:22:53Joe Rogan?

  Okay, there's a great channel you should follow called Stance Elements. This dude is building a Ferrari F40. Building it. So what he did was, he bought all the parts that you could buy online for a Ferrari F40. He bought quarter panels, he bought roof panels, he bought front fenders, hood, all that jazz.

• 1:23:15Speaker 02

  Yo, Ferrari doesn't like that shit though, right?

• 1:23:16Joe Rogan?

  They hate it. Fuck them. He fabricated the entire frame. He built the frame. He built the interior roll cage. He made it dope as fuck, man. He made it like, and he's in the middle of this project. This project is probably gonna, that's not an F40, that's a 308. That's a very cool car too, though. So he got an engine from an even more powerful Ferrari, so he got a crate engine that he installed into this thing. So you're gonna scoot ad, this is like, he's just talking about different projects he did. That was his original M5, which is another great car. So look, fabricated this entire frame. They did all this. And they, you know, like he meticulously measured and matched and then TIG welded all this stuff together.

• 1:24:01Joe Rogan?

  And this is what he's putting together. He's making this car. So it's going to be like his version of a Ferrari F40. But it's pretty sick. It's gonna cost him fucking shitloads of money, man.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  That's so sick, though.

• 1:24:15Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, like he's pretty far ahead past this now. That's what it's gonna look like ultimately at the end, which is gonna be nuts.

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  Gas Monkey did that too, and I think, I think the story with that was like Ferrari did everything they could to try to stop them from getting parts.

• 1:24:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah. I think he got all the parts before they knew what was going on.

• 1:24:33Speaker 02

  Now, now for the next guy who wants to do one of these Ferraris, gonna be like,

• 1:24:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 1:24:37Speaker 02

  If anybody's ordering a bunch of parts like crazy, they're probably gonna be like, hold on, this is suspicious.

• 1:24:41Joe Rogan?

  If Ferrari catches you repainting your car, like a crazy color, you're fucked. They'll sue you.

• 1:24:46Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:24:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they go crazy. Didn't they go after that designer? What is his name? Philip Pleen? Is that his name? He had like a, uh, like a green Ferrari. Like a, like a crazy metallic green and he must have either put a wrap on it or changed the paint. But he was doing all this promo stuff with his Ferrari and they sued him.

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:25:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's, that's the car. Ferrari wins legal case against designer Philip Pleen use of supercars, but he says it's not over. Like, look at the color on that thing.

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  That means, so that means like he bought it from Ferrari.

• 1:25:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:23Speaker 02

  And must have signed something, right? That's like.

• 1:25:25Joe Rogan?

  I guess.

• 1:25:26Speaker 02

  I agree not to.

• 1:25:27Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. It said he's been ordered to pay Ferrari three hundred and fifty-two thousand dollars in compensation to the Italian car manufacturer. The case relates to a spring two thousand and eighteen runway show that Pleen held in Milan in June of two thousand and seventeen. During this event, Pleen featured a host of exotics, including Ferraris, Lamborghinis and McLarens, and Ferrari was none too pleased with this. They took issue with Pleen's social media posts claiming that by posting photos of his fashion collection with Ferraris, Pleen was unlawfully appropriating the goodwill attached to its trademarks to promote his own brand and products. It added that Pleen's post tarnished the reputation of Ferrari. Like, what, what reputation?

• 1:26:12Joe Rogan?

  Coked up dudes in Miami? What are you talk- what the fuck are you talking about? What reputation? That's crazy. That's a lot of money. He has to pay them three hundred and fifty-two thousand dollars in compen- in compensation and reimburse attorney's fees to the tune of over twenty-nine thousand dollars.

• 1:26:29Speaker 02

  He has to pay them the attorney fees?

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, in order to remove any images from his website and social media platforms that show any Ferrari model. Moreover, the court said that if Pleen, am I saying his name right? Pline Pleen refuses to delete a post depicting a Ferrari or shares a nude one, he will have to pay a fee of ten thousand pounds. Is that pounds or is that euros? What's that? Euros? For each image or video. That's crazy.

• 1:26:56Speaker 02

  Dude, that sucks.

• 1:26:57Joe Rogan?

  Oh, shortly after the decision was made, he went to Instagram and promptly shared an image of his bright green eight twelve superfast, claiming that he will appeal the ruling.

• 1:27:09Joe Rogan?

  That seems crazy, that all he did was show his stuff with Ferraris? Like, what about rappers? Can they not use a Ferrari if they're doing a music video? Like, if you got, if you're a rapper and you bought a dope car and you wanna have your dope car in your music video, does Ferrari fucking sue you?

• 1:27:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I'm trying to think back now. Have I even seen, like, how many Ferraris have I seen in music videos?

• 1:27:32Joe Rogan?

  I mean, you always see, like, cool cars, Lambo doors, especially old ones. You go back to, like, old rap videos.

• 1:27:39Speaker 02

  But like, an actual Ferrari?

• 1:27:42Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question. Deadmau5. Oh, he got in trouble too, right? Cause he had a rap on his. They sued him as well, right?

• 1:27:51Speaker 02

  I gotta find me a Ferrari, but not from Ferrari. Like, I gotta find it on Facebook Marketplace, like my friend with the Porsche.

• 1:27:57Joe Rogan?

  See, that's what hit the back of his car. Look at that color. Isn't that a dope color?

• 1:28:01Speaker 02

  It is.

• 1:28:02Joe Rogan?

  I love that color. Um, that is the same color, it's a similar color rather to what Corvette has. Corvette has a new one called Roswell Green for their ZR1. Looks sick. He says Ferrari says he was using the vehicle to add value to his products and elevate his status as a designer. Okay. "On the surface, this seems petty, but to dig a little closer and you'll find you agree with Ferrari." No, I won't.

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  Huh.

• 1:28:28Joe Rogan?

  Don't tell me what I agree with, bitch. "German fashion designer was not only taking pictures with scantily clad women washing the Ferrari, he had also been known to employ the likes of Chris Brown and Takeshi 69 in his fashion shows, two men with a history of perpetrating sexual assault and other unsavory acts."

• 1:28:47Speaker 02

  Okay, that, that's not a hundred percent fair, though, cause did Chris Brown commit sexual assault? I thought it was just, you know, domestic violence.

• 1:28:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:57Speaker 02

  He didn't rape nobody.

• 1:28:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't think so. I think they're just, I don't know what happened with Takeshi 69 either.

• 1:29:04Speaker 02

  I don't know that story at all.

• 1:29:05Joe Rogan?

  I know, he's a rap.

• 1:29:09Joe Rogan?

  So what about the Miami Vice? What does it say underneath that?

• 1:29:11Speaker 02

  That'd be hilarious if the article was like, yeah, and he associated with a snitch.

• 1:29:15Joe Rogan?

  You know what's crazy is like, those are really expensive. Oh, look at that. The Miami Vice one, a Corvette-based Daytona kit was used. Once Ferrari got wind, it took action. Oh, interesting. But it says Ferrari was so much more fun in the 1980s, and instead of just asking the producers of the show to take badges off or stop using the vehicle, they asked for the Daytona to be blown up on screen. The moment ended to be one of the most pivotal moments of the series and a great spectacle. The brand was even a good sport about the whole thing and offered the show a real Ferrari Testa Rosa, the brand's flagship at the time to be used for the remainder of the series. So yeah, Miami Vice was known for that Testa Rosa, that white Testa Rosa that Don Johnson used to drive around in.

• 1:29:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:58Joe Rogan?

  So those Ferrari was cool back then. They said, "You use a real car, bro."

• 1:30:00Speaker 02

  I only know about that Ferrari because of the Wolf of Wall Street. Was it the intro? He's like, "No, no, my Ferrari was white, like Don Johnson's on Miami Vice."

• 1:30:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't like the Testaroses. I have a friend, my friend Dana White from the UFC, he has a Testa Rosa. I think they look like trash.

• 1:30:16Speaker 02

  The Testaroses?

• 1:30:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I just think it's a crappy-looking car. It's just, I'm not interested in it. I mean, I'm sure it's fun to drive, but for some people, that was their car when they were a kid. That was the car that they wanted. For me, it was always Porsches. Porsches and muscle cars. Those are the cars that I wanted when I was a kid. Those Porsches, like the turbo with the fat ass.

• 1:30:37Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:30:38Joe Rogan?

  Like, if you go like, Google 1985 911 Turbo. So this was when I was a senior in high school.

• 1:30:46Speaker 02

  That was the first thing I liked about the Porsches, the fat asses. Because you stare at them, and like I was saying, like you get into balance. When I look at that, I'm like, "Look at that thing. That thing would never flip over."

• 1:30:55Joe Rogan?

  But then you can go with the BBL version of it, which is that dude in Japan who makes those wide-body ones.

• 1:31:01Speaker 02

  Yeah. Everybody was flaming him when he was, uh...

• 1:31:05Joe Rogan?

  Look at that.

• 1:31:05Speaker 02

  Gluing the parts on.

• 1:31:06Joe Rogan?

  Look at that sexy.

• 1:31:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:09Joe Rogan?

  1985 911 Turbo. Look how sexy that is. When I was a kid, that was the car, man. I saw that. There was a dude at a gas station that I worked at. He pulled in with a Porsche. It was the first time I ever saw one up close. I was like, "Holy shit, look at this thing." It was just like that. It was a white one.

• 1:31:25Speaker 02

  I'd like to have one of those one day.

• 1:31:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They're cool. And again, that car, you'll feel everything. You feel everything, man. It's like they're so mechanical. You you just. It's just a sensory overload. So it's more fun, even if you're not driving fast. Like, my Tesla's fun, but one of the reasons why it's fun, because it's preposterous. It goes zero to sixty in one point nine seconds. It's just. Silent. It's just gone.

• 1:31:55Speaker 02

  I don't like the silence.

• 1:31:56Joe Rogan?

  The light turns green, it's gone. It's just.

• 1:32:00Joe Rogan?

  It just takes off, but. You have more fun in a light car like that going slower. You don't even have to speed. Like, you just, it just, it's the feeling of driving, the running through the gears. Ferrari has not sued owners solely for changing the paint color or applying a rap. However, Ferrari has taken legal action against owners who have significantly altered the car's appearance, especially when it involves modifying or replacing the Ferrari logo, or when the car is used in ways that damage the brand's reputation. So that's what Ferrari was saying.

• 1:32:33Speaker 02

  I don't know how many times, I I mean, it's only been a couple of times, and I won't say who, because I don't, I don't want to get them in trouble. But I've seen cars, Ferraris, that have been modified, and the the logo is the the horse, but with like a giant boner.

• 1:32:51Joe Rogan?

  Where have you seen that?

• 1:32:52Speaker 02

  I can't tell you now.

• 1:32:53Joe Rogan?

  Why can't you tell me?

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  I don't want them to get sued, man.

• 1:32:55Joe Rogan?

  All right, don't tell me. But, yeah. It's kind of stupid, though, that a car company could think that it could stop you from altering things. Because like, think about, like, the GTRs that we were talking about. Like, a big part of the whole community and the culture is the altering of those cars.

• 1:33:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:10Joe Rogan?

  The big part is the modifying.

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that's that's part of what got them so popular is that they were so easily tunable and and and, you know.

• 1:33:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:18Speaker 02

  Easy to modify.

• 1:33:19Joe Rogan?

  It's a big part of it. And the same thing with Porsches. I mean, there's so many outlaw Porsches out there, where people take Porsches and change all kinds of things on them. And like, the the gentleman, what is his name again, that does the um, raw welt? Porsches.

• 1:33:34Speaker 02

  I I don't know his name. He wears the sandals and he smokes cigarettes all the time.

• 1:33:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that guy is fascinating. Cause he does everything by hand.

• 1:33:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:42Joe Rogan?

  He he makes all those wide body Porsches by hand and like.

• 1:33:45Speaker 02

  There's like a waitlist, right? To get him to to fuck with your Porsche?

• 1:33:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just comes to your shop. He'll travel with fucking cartons of cigarettes. I think he drinks Coca-Cola and just fucking.

• 1:33:57Speaker 02

  That's it, man.

• 1:33:57Joe Rogan?

  Carves it up. And, you know.

• 1:34:00Speaker 02

  I like his style.

• 1:34:01Joe Rogan?

  They're dope.

• 1:34:01Speaker 02

  It's very like grandma style, just Coca-Cola and cigarettes.

• 1:34:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:04Speaker 02

  I feel like that's shit that my grandma would send me to the store for.

• 1:34:07Joe Rogan?

  Flip flops.

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:09Joe Rogan?

  He's just out there smoking cigarettes and working on the car, but that style of car, that wide body style is like very controversial. Some people think it's gross, like what have you done to a Porsche? You've cut up one of the great pieces of engineering and design and you've turned it into this fat hooker.

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  That's something that I like didn't. That's one thing that kept me from liking Porsches for so long was that like Porsche owners were very anal about stuff like that.

• 1:34:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, Porsche less, less Porsche than Ferrari. Like for Ferrari, it's like, you know, it's a sacrilege to do that. But that does look pretty fucking dope.

• 1:34:46Speaker 02

  That looks sick.

• 1:34:46Joe Rogan?

  That looks pretty goddamn dope and there's giant ass wheels and tires they have on those things. The grip must be sensational.

• 1:34:54Speaker 02

  I love that thing. I was, I I would. I would do that. If I owned a Porsche, I would call that dude. I'd be like, hey, do this stuff, man.

• 1:35:00Joe Rogan?

  Look at that. Look what he did to a a. That's a the first or the last of the air cooled cars, I think.

• 1:35:06Speaker 02

  Hey, Luis, we gotta call this dude to work on your Porsche.

• 1:35:09Joe Rogan?

  That actually might be a nine nine seven. I think that is a nine nine seven. So that's a, that's a water cooled car. Look at the wide body on that motherfucker. Ooh, that looks good. That looks good.

• 1:35:22Joe Rogan?

  What is his name again, Jamie? Akira Nakai? That's right. Yeah.

• 1:35:26Speaker 02

  Akira, like the movie.

• 1:35:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so that guy's got a whole cult following. And they do a lot of LS swaps in those cars too.

• 1:35:35Speaker 02

  Hey, I think those-

• 1:35:35Joe Rogan?

  Rutledge Wood had one of those. He had one that was LS swapped.

• 1:35:39Speaker 02

  They, they um, they could put those motors into like, what is it, the Beetles sometimes too, right? The Volkswagens?

• 1:35:45Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:45Speaker 02

  The old ones?

• 1:35:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:46Speaker 02

  Those are sick.

• 1:35:47Joe Rogan?

  You can put an LS in anything. They're bulletproof. Such a good engine.

• 1:35:50Speaker 02

  Oh, and I was talking about the Porsche engines.

• 1:35:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  I think they fit in-

• 1:35:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they definitely do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people have done that. Yeah. They put them in VW buses.

• 1:35:58Speaker 02

  I wonder if that makes Porsche people mad?

• 1:36:01Joe Rogan?

  I think the Porsche people are just a little more chill about that stuff. They're not gonna sue you. The Ferrari thing is weird. Cause I think that's the only company that does that.

• 1:36:09Speaker 02

  Before, uh, Ferrari?

• 1:36:10Joe Rogan?

  That goes after people for doing stuff to their vehicles.

• 1:36:12Speaker 02

  That'd be hilarious if like Ford or Chevy started doing that. It's like, you can't change your Ford Fiesta like that.

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• 1:38:26Joe Rogan?

  I mean, how many people have altered Mustangs, you know? Come on.

• 1:38:30Speaker 02

  I like the Mustangs. I feel kind of bad that they got that reputation for always hitting people at car meets and stuff and sliding out of control.

• 1:38:37Joe Rogan?

  Do they?

• 1:38:37Speaker 02

  I think it's a Ford thing, though.

• 1:38:39Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean?

• 1:38:40Speaker 02

  Like, uh, so like on memes and stuff, the Mustangs are infamous for like when they do little burnouts or when they just do a little fishtail, they end up going out of control and like hitting people on curbs.

• 1:38:53Joe Rogan?

  So that's the driver, bro.

• 1:38:54Speaker 02

  They get made fun of a lot. They're like, oh, it's always in a Mustang. But I think it's, I think it's a Ford thing. I think Ford, a lot of their cars have delays.

• 1:39:02Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:39:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:39:04Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, that's not what that's about.

• 1:39:05Speaker 02

  But I think, I mean, yeah, it's a driver.

• 1:39:06Joe Rogan?

  People don't know how to drive.

• 1:39:07Speaker 02

  For sure, it's a driver thing, but I think it's, it's partly because, um, they're not used to the delay.

• 1:39:13Joe Rogan?

  What delay are you talking about?

• 1:39:14Speaker 02

  I think like, uh, and I might be wrong. Maybe, uh, maybe it's just me.

• 1:39:16Joe Rogan?

  I have a Mustang, I should just say. I have a new Mustang. I have a, but I have a Super Snake.

• 1:39:21Speaker 02

  Okay, so I don't know, how new is it? Like, brand new?

• 1:39:23Joe Rogan?

  Brand new.

• 1:39:24Speaker 02

  Alright, so I don't know about brand new, but maybe still. Get in your Mustang and floor it. And count how long it takes before it like takes off. Or try to time it, it might be like half a second, it might be a second. And count how long it takes for the, like, when you let off the throttle. How long, like, try to feel it, how long it takes for it to actually, the, the motor to stop receiving the gas. Like, it's, it's, it's like about a half a second or a second longer than most cars.

• 1:39:55Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  I swear to God.

• 1:39:56Joe Rogan?

  Find out if that's a thing.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  It's a delay.

• 1:39:58Joe Rogan?

  I've never heard of that before.

• 1:39:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. Or, or even in a truck, I was driving a, a F-150, it's, it has a 5.0. It's a single cab, those things, those things are fucking sick, they're like the best trucks out there right now.

• 1:40:10Joe Rogan?

  Delay after flooring, this is an F-150, uh, 5 liter. Uh, when I punch it, there seems to be about a two second or less delay on the initial pickup. That's something wrong with this car.

• 1:40:22Speaker 02

  So I don't know if it's only the truck.

• 1:40:23Joe Rogan?

  But see about that Mustangs.

• 1:40:25Speaker 02

  Try it, try it out.

• 1:40:26Joe Rogan?

  No, mine, mine has no delay.

• 1:40:29Speaker 02

  No?

• 1:40:29Joe Rogan?

  Mine has no delay, no.

• 1:40:30Speaker 02

  So I was thinking maybe that's why some people slide out of control though, is because they're not used to the delay. Cause again, my truck, I don't have that truck anymore, but I'd have to kinda count for like, alright, I'm gonna floor it. And then, and then, but also when I take my foot off, like, I need to take it off a little earlier than I normally would. Depending on what I'm doing.

• 1:40:48Joe Rogan?

  I feel like that your car was not tuned in correctly, I feel like your car.

• 1:40:52Speaker 02

  You could probably fix it with a tune, but that's how they come out the factory.

• 1:40:55Joe Rogan?

  Really? Not mine, man, I have a Raptor too, I have a Raptor. And, and I also have a Mustang, and neither one of them has any problems like that, they're immediate response.

• 1:41:05Speaker 02

  Try it, compare it to your other cars, pull out the GT-R, pull out the Tesla.

• 1:41:09Joe Rogan?

  Okay.

• 1:41:09Speaker 02

  Pull out the, pull out the Cuda.

• 1:41:11Joe Rogan?

  The Tesla's very different than all of them, because it's instantaneous. It's no gears, it's one gear, and it's fucking preposterously fast. But the Mustangs don't have that, I think it's a bad driver.

• 1:41:23Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:41:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the Mustangs are just, you know, it's like.

• 1:41:26Speaker 02

  You gotta try it, man.

• 1:41:27Joe Rogan?

  It's not an expensive car.

• 1:41:30Joe Rogan?

  It's turbocharged, it's a different thing, okay? The Mustangs are five liters, so it's a V8. It's the Coyote engine.

• 1:41:35Speaker 02

  Every car reacts a little different to like when you floor it. Like the reaction time is different. Maybe Ford's is just...

• 1:41:41Joe Rogan?

  You're just hanging on to this reaction time thing.

• 1:41:43Speaker 02

  I don't know, man.

• 1:41:44Joe Rogan?

  Is there anything in there about delay in the throttle on Mustangs?

• 1:41:48Speaker 00

  One person having a problem with the Mustang that they personally bought?

• 1:41:50Joe Rogan?

  One person.

• 1:41:51Speaker 00

  But, yeah, I'm not seeing like...

• 1:41:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't think it's a thing.

• 1:41:54Speaker 02

  I'm collecting data. I'm not trying to hit on Mustangs. I'm trying to collect data.

• 1:41:58Joe Rogan?

  I don't think you're collecting data. I think you're talking about anecdotal experiences from cars that weren't tuned in correctly.

• 1:42:03Speaker 02

  I want you to floor that Mustang, your Super Snake, and then tell me what the time was.

• 1:42:08Joe Rogan?

  I just floor that thing all the time. But mine's not a normal one. It's a Shelby. So Shelby, North America, they take a regular Mustang.

• 1:42:16Speaker 02

  I still want the data, Joe. I want you to floor it and give me the data.

• 1:42:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:20Speaker 02

  Give me the, get that, what is it? What do they call them? The trackies? Where they, they, they, uh, they track everything for you? It's like an app.

• 1:42:28Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:42:29Speaker 02

  And you put this little thing in your cup holder and you floor it.

• 1:42:32Speaker 00

  2005 to 9 poll on a, on a thread here, do I have throttle lag? And some people do.

• 1:42:40Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:42:41Speaker 00

  Some lag, you know? These are older Mustangs.

• 1:42:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, the older ones.

• 1:42:46Joe Rogan?

  But these are older ones, they're probably out of tune. They probably have bad fuel injection, something's wrong.

• 1:42:53Speaker 00

  Big's coming up with like a...

• 1:42:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  I'm just trying to collect data, alright? Just like you do when you have all these experts come on.

• 1:43:01Joe Rogan?

  You keep saying that like you're a scientist.

• 1:43:04Speaker 02

  I'm not a scientist.

• 1:43:05Joe Rogan?

  I love that you're doing that car channel though, that's, that's pretty cool. I love cars, man. I just, I, I love watching people fix them and work on them and modify them.

• 1:43:14Speaker 02

  Oh, it's so fun.

• 1:43:15Joe Rogan?

  I, I mean, it might be like 20% of the content that I watch is like car stuff. I just love it. I love when people are really passionate about something, you know, and they, they work on things.

• 1:43:26Speaker 02

  Whenever I get interested in something, I like to really dig into it and learn about it. It's just so rare when I find something that I'm genuinely interested in.

• 1:43:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:34Speaker 02

  But that's, that's the problem I was telling you is that like, now I'm just hyper focused on this and I haven't written a new joke in like, I don't know how long.

• 1:43:43Joe Rogan?

  Do you sit down, write, or do you try to like let ideas come to you? How do you do it?

• 1:43:47Speaker 02

  I mean, like, both. I try to let ideas come to me so I don't force something, but once I have the idea, then I try to like write it out or like...

• 1:43:55Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:43:56Speaker 02

  And, um, I wrote.

• 1:43:59Speaker 02

  Last night and the night before, just because I'm like, bro, I have to write something down just to see if I can like, squeeze something out. But lately, like, the shows I've been doing, uh, and it's, and it's worked for the most part. Lately, I just kind of go up there with half ideas and then like sketch them out on stage.

• 1:44:16Joe Rogan?

  So you're trying to work on new material that way?

• 1:44:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That's a great way to work on new material because you put yourself under pressure.

• 1:44:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:23Speaker 02

  And, and, and it feels more like a conversation with the crowd sometimes. Because sometimes I'll just straight up tell the crowd like, yo, what do you guys want to talk about? Because I'm out of ideas, like, and I might, it might turn into a lot of crowd work, which is also fun too, at least for me. I know some people don't like it, but I don't, I don't know. I'm in a weird place creatively with comedy. I feel like anything I try to think of is just not going to be funny.

• 1:44:46Joe Rogan?

  Have you been working too much?

• 1:44:48Speaker 02

  Maybe. That might be it too.

• 1:44:49Joe Rogan?

  Are you non-stop? Or do you take weeks off every now and then?

• 1:44:53Speaker 02

  I've been pretty non-stop up until now.

• 1:44:55Joe Rogan?

  I, um, was non-stop for a long time. And then one time I decided to take a few weeks off. And I think I wound up taking a month off where I didn't do any sets for a month. It was weird. I'd never done that before. The only other time I did that was I had surgery on my knee. I took two weeks off. Then I went on stage with crutches after that. And then during COVID, during COVID, I didn't, did new stand-up for a long time. But I found out that when I took a month off, like, I, I had a chance to actually think about what's interesting to me. Instead of just doing jokes that I thought worked. You know, so I had no pressure to do a show. I didn't have any shows scheduled. So I said, let me just like, think about life. Let me think about what's interesting to me.

• 1:45:38Joe Rogan?

  Let me think about what's bothering me. Like, think about what's exciting to me. And we think about what's possible. Think about things I'm interested in and just start writing down subjects. So for a full month, I didn't do any performing. I just collected ideas. And I didn't think of it in terms of like, I'm under the gun. I have to get X amount of ideas or X. I just thought about it like, every day I'm going to spend just a certain amount of time, either in front of the computer or looking at my phone, just working on ideas, just finding shit that's interesting. And then I had a folder that I'd put all these ideas in. And then I'd sit down and look at these folders like, no, no. Huh, maybe that. And then I'll write something about it, just a little bit.

• 1:46:20Joe Rogan?

  Just write down like what's weird about it, what bothers me about it. And then go back to it the next day and expand on it. And maybe smoke a little weed and fucking think about it and go, what is? What would life be like if no one figured out the wheel? What would life, you know, what would life be like if no one ever invested any time into figuring out antibiotics? You know, like, and then you just go on a rant. Go on a rant, write things down and then write it, I write in essay form. So I don't try to write like in joke form. I write about a subject. Like what is, what is about the subject that's interesting to me? I look at it a bunch of different angles. And then usually when I do that, there's like a thing in there that's funny.

• 1:47:03Joe Rogan?

  One thing. And I could just pull that thing out and then figure out how do I deliver that one thing?

• 1:47:07Speaker 02

  Oh, I get you.

• 1:47:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so instead of just like always thinking about like what can I talk about on stage, what are the jokes? Think about like what interests you? And if you feel like you're burnt out, if you, do you have shows scheduled non-stop from now on?

• 1:47:22Speaker 02

  Nah, so my, my next, my next tour starts in September and some people were kind of upset with me. Cause it's like a seven, eight show tour over like four months.

• 1:47:33Joe Rogan?

  Why are they upset?

• 1:47:34Speaker 02

  Cause they're like, hey, it's not a tour, it's like a pit stop.

• 1:47:37Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're thinking you're lazy?

• 1:47:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then like people are like, why did you come to this city? Why, why is it like these seven cities? But I'm like, I don't know, it just worked out that way, man. I want fucking time off too, you know?

• 1:47:47Joe Rogan?

  You gotta not listen to people. Do what you wanna do. Don't listen to anybody.

• 1:47:51Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm.

• 1:47:52Joe Rogan?

  Especially online.

• 1:47:53Speaker 02

  I feel like I'm barely getting to that point where I like, I can finally. And I, not that I'm like, okay, finally I'm here at this point. I feel like.

• 1:48:03Speaker 02

  It's like one step at a time. We're like, alright, I can care a little bit less now about this.

• 1:48:07Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:48:08Speaker 02

  And like with time, I can care a little bit less about that or whatever. But it's still tough. I also don't.

• 1:48:16Speaker 02

  I think that one of the toxic things that it could be like a double edged sword is like how much people let you do and help you do things. Like if I told my manager right now that I wanted to write a play, like the man is gonna help me write a play. But I don't know how to write a play. Like I shouldn't be writing plays. And I feel like that's bad. It's how much people let me do things. I think sometime this week and maybe next week, uh, as part of the press tour, I'm going on some Spanish shows. My Spanish is not that great. Like I should not be allowed to be on Spanish TV.

• 1:48:49Joe Rogan?

  How bad is it?

• 1:48:50Speaker 02

  It's like if you're, if, uh, if your first language is Spanish and you hear mine, you're just like, that guy learned this later on. Like he learned it as a kid maybe, but it's not great.

• 1:49:02Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  It's like I can have a conversation. I can communicate with whoever, but it's not good enough to be on TV.

• 1:49:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:49:08Speaker 02

  And I think it's crazy that there's not even like a check. Like there's no test. Like I thought at some point they'd interview me and just be like, you know what this means? Do you know how to say this, say that? Like, no, they're just like.

• 1:49:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're trusting you. You say you can speak Spanish.

• 1:49:22Speaker 02

  That's crazy, the trust they put in.

• 1:49:24Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:49:25Speaker 02

  Cause they'd only backfire. I mean, yeah, it could backfire on my agent, my manager, whatever. It'd be like, hey, you vouch for this guy, sure. But it's gonna backfire on me more than anybody.

• 1:49:34Joe Rogan?

  Well, you could always have someone come on that's fluent that could help you.

• 1:49:36Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 1:49:37Joe Rogan?

  Like when I had, uh, Yoel Romero on the podcast, Joey Diaz translated for Yoel. Yoel's from Cuba, Joey's from Cuba. So Joey would just, you listen to Yoel and translate. And then occasionally Yoel would say things in English cause his, his English is okay.

• 1:49:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, my game plan is just to like be straightforward with it.

• 1:49:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:56Speaker 02

  And just be like, look, before we go deeper into this, just know I might fuck up here or there.

• 1:50:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just say that. Yeah. But that, that does happen in the Mexican community though, right? They get a little mad if you can't speak Spanish.

• 1:50:07Speaker 02

  Oh, bro, they hate you. It's crazy. But fuck it. I just think, I just think that's just the, the funny kinda double edged sword about like the entertainment industry though is like, people will give you the tools to like try whatever you wanna do next.

• 1:50:27Joe Rogan?

  But why do you think that's bad?

• 1:50:28Speaker 02

  Because sometimes.

• 1:50:32Speaker 02

  I think it's bad because you can set yourself up for failure humiliation like uh

• 1:50:38Joe Rogan?

  Or success.

• 1:50:39Speaker 02

  Or success, true, but that's why it's a double edged sword. Do you, do you, did you ever watch that movie Top Five, Chris Rock's movie Top Five?

• 1:50:46Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:50:46Speaker 02

  I saw that movie in the, in the theaters when I was like eighteen maybe seventeen. Uh, so he's basically like playing himself. It's, it's about a, a standup comedian who I think he's, if I remember correctly, I think he's getting upset because people don't take him seriously. As, as uh, he directed a movie and acted in a movie and people are kind of trashing the movie and he's just like, what the fuck? Why don't people see I'm more than just a comedian, you know? And I think towards the end of the movie, he, he ends up getting arrested. And he's in, he's in like the city jail and across from him is DMX. Like as DMX, he's doing a cameo. And, and DMX is like, yeah, I know what you mean. Like, nobody understands. Like, I don't always wanna rap. I wanna sing too.

• 1:51:29Speaker 02

  And DMX starts singing some song, but it sounds horrible to, to DMX's voice. And so the lesson there is like, kinda like know your space, you know what I mean?

• 1:51:38Joe Rogan?

  Know your lane.

• 1:51:39Speaker 02

  Know your lane, yeah.

• 1:51:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:40Speaker 02

  So I think that's the dangerous part is sometimes you might lose sight of what your lane is. And you can go into, you, you venture out, which is cool. It's fun, you know, creatively. But then it's like, hey, you might fucking, imagine if somebody gave DMX like a tour where he was just singing fucking country songs or something. Like it'd be entertaining, but it wouldn't be great, you know what I mean?

• 1:52:03Joe Rogan?

  Right, but if he could do it, you gotta give him a chance to possibly pull it off.

• 1:52:07Speaker 02

  That's true too.

• 1:52:08Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people have done that. Like Post Malone's got a whole country tour.

• 1:52:11Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 1:52:12Joe Rogan?

  And it's, I, I went to see it. It was great.

• 1:52:13Speaker 02

  But that's a, that is a very talented man.

• 1:52:15Joe Rogan?

  Very talented man.

• 1:52:17Speaker 02

  So it's like, you have to know how seriously to take yourself to.

• 1:52:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, sort of, or you have to not think about it. Like he's like a guy, he kinda stays, stays toasty, keeps rolling. I don't think he ponders it too much. I think he does what he wants to do.

• 1:52:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, but like me, I, I know myself well enough to know like, I'm no Post Malone. I'm not starting a, a car channel out of like, I'm gonna be the next fucking Top Gear.

• 1:52:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but you're starting it because you're interested in cars, which is a good reason to start it.

• 1:52:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I also know myself enough to know that like, yeah, I'm just kinda, like I'm keeping it goofy. I'm keeping it light. Yeah. I, I'm not, I'm not necessarily like.

• 1:52:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know how to explain it too well. I'm just trying to make sure that I don't end up being DMX in that jail cell.

• 1:53:04Joe Rogan?

  Ah, do you worry about that? Is that something that you you worry about?

• 1:53:09Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, some sometimes to a degree. I I think I know myself well enough to know like, like I'm trying to act. I've been doing auditions and stuff. And I think that like, I have a pretty good gauge of like, if if I land landed a role and I heard like, the the feedback on it. I think I'd know like, alright, that's like when it when it's valid and when it's not. You know what I mean? But my biggest fear is that like, what if? What if I did get like such a huge ego that I'm like, oh, these idiots don't know what they're talking about like, I'm just so talented like, that's I feel like that's scary. That's a scary part of the entertainment industry is like, when when you believe the wrong stuff.

• 1:53:52Speaker 02

  Or I feel like you shouldn't believe any of it, right? Like they say, the good comments and the bad comments are, none of them are true.

• 1:54:01Joe Rogan?

  Well, none of them are gonna help you. You should figure out who you are.

• 1:54:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:54:05Joe Rogan?

  But the thing about what you're saying that's that rings really true is that a lot of people grossly overestimate what they're capable of doing or how good they're doing something. And a lot of that is if you get famous, then you have a bunch of yes men around you and a bunch of people kissing your ass. And the stuff that you're putting out is is not the best. It's not what you're capable of.

• 1:54:26Speaker 02

  You have to know how to like.

• 1:54:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:27Speaker 02

  Tell the line between like confidence and just like cockiness.

• 1:54:31Joe Rogan?

  Most great people that I know kind of hate what they do. Not not hate what they do and that they don't love it, but they they're very self critical. I think it's one of the ways that allows you to objectively analyze what you're doing. And you have to like make this battle between you don't want to kill your own confidence, but you don't want to be overconfident. And you kind of have to be hypercritical about your own work. Because if you don't, you're never gonna get it to where it needs to be. But then you also have to realize at one point in time, you're too close to it to see it the way other people are gonna see it. If I'm working on a bit for like three or four months, right? And it's like frustrating and I'm twisting it around, I'm adding to it and subtracting and I'm trying to make it right. Like sometimes you're so close to it that you don't even know that it's funny anymore.

• 1:55:17Joe Rogan?

  And you don't want to lose that enthusiasm for the bit either. So there's this balancing act for like.

• 1:55:25Joe Rogan?

  Paying so much attention to it that you hate it, but then falling in love with the idea again before you do it on stage. Pretending as if it was new.

• 1:55:33Speaker 02

  Yeah. Treating it as if it was new.

• 1:55:37Joe Rogan?

  That's, that's hard for people. That's, that's the dance because the worst thing is seeing a comic on stage that's bored with doing stand-up.

• 1:55:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:46Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my god. You know, or people, seeing people complain before they go up. Can't believe we have to do a second show tonight. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? You, you could be working in a bakery somewhere in front of a fucking hot oven, sweating your dick off.

• 1:56:02Speaker 02

  You could be a logger.

• 1:56:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you could be a logger, getting abducted by aliens. You could be doing some terrible fucking job that sucks. Instead, you have literally the greatest job in the world and you're complaining, you have to do it again. Got to reset your brain, reset your approach and, and treat it like you love it again.

• 1:56:17Speaker 02

  For anybody who's been to my shows and has not liked the crowd work, I, I'm sorry for that, but I'm having fun with it. And I think the majority of the audience is having fun with it, especially the ones that I'm fucking with, that I'm like talking to, you know?

• 1:56:31Joe Rogan?

  Why, do people complain, complain that you're doing crowd work?

• 1:56:34Speaker 02

  Well, I've had a couple of messages over the summer where they're just like, hey, man, you did a few jokes and then you just were talking to the crowd the whole time. It's like, but the thing is that it's fun. And I don't want to complain about my job. Because it's either that, or you watch me open mic it, or do rehearsed jokes. And it's true, you can tell when a comedian is not enjoying their job. And you hear comedians talk about it, they're like, oh, man, I was doing that joke and then one day it just stopped working. And it's like, yeah, because people probably can tell where you, you're, you're just not feeling it anymore. You're not forcing, you're forcing the joke maybe.

• 1:57:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:57:09Speaker 02

  And I don't want to go up there and force jokes and I don't want to complain about my job. Because my job is fun. Like, I'm beyond blessed to have this fucking job, but it's fun.

• 1:57:20Speaker 02

  If it like, I feel like comedy works when you're present in the moment.

• 1:57:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:25Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? If I go up there, I try to force something and I'm just like nah, like I'm the same old Ralph from six years ago. Let me do the same old jokes, you know, like people are gonna tell.

• 1:57:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:35Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? So like, right now, I'm having a lot of, not that I'm gonna keep just only doing crowd work. But I, I, I would do very minimal crowd work before. Like I, I'd go on stage and I might do like fucking five minutes tops. Whereas now, I might do like twenty, thirty minutes of it. But it, but if it's fun, it's fun, like. It's like with the portions and the dude who was a Japanese dude who's like shaping them up. Like people might get mad, but like if it's cool, it's cool. I feel like comedy is like that too, like.

• 1:58:03Joe Rogan?

  If you're having fun, that's what's important, as long as the audience is laughing. If some people aren't enjoying it, well, they won't go see you again.

• 1:58:10Speaker 02

  That too. And it's not like I'm going up there and like fucking, like I'm having fun, but ninety percent of the audience is like, this is horrible. Like nah, like I'm pretty, they're, they're laughing, you know what I mean? I just do feel a little bit of like, damn.

• 1:58:24Joe Rogan?

  Some people don't like crowd work.

• 1:58:26Speaker 02

  Some people don't, yeah.

• 1:58:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, some people just wanna hear jokes.

• 1:58:28Speaker 02

  If, if, if I have a hundred people at my show and like three of them don't like it though, that does fuck with me. I'm just like fuck.

• 1:58:34Joe Rogan?

  Those are the ones that are gonna comment too.

• 1:58:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:36Joe Rogan?

  The ones that don't like it.

• 1:58:37Speaker 02

  Fucking people, man.

• 1:58:38Joe Rogan?

  Are more likely to comment.

• 1:58:39Speaker 02

  I let them down.

• 1:58:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, you can't really listen. You gotta know, right? Everyone has to know and the worst thing is when you don't know, like if you have a bad show and you think it was good. We've all known guys like that, especially in the beginning. They thought they did well, they're like, bro, I'd kill myself if I had that set, that's ridiculous.

• 1:58:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:56Joe Rogan?

  Like you think that was good? It's terrible. It's just, people get delusional, that's a fact. But you, you know, you, you just gotta be able to self-assess.

• 1:59:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:06Joe Rogan?

  You know, and if you're self-assessing, you can't read the comments. Because it's just gonna get in your head and it's gonna distract you from thinking about new things. The amount of attention that you spend paying attention to other people's opinions. Is attention that you could be spending improving what you're doing. As long as you're aware of what's good and what's not good. But sometimes you do get too close to it. Sometimes you need friends to help you out. You know, sometimes you need, that's one of the great things about having a club like the mothership or the comedy store where there's a bunch of comics around. You could say, I got this bit and it's fucking, I'm stuck. I'm stuck with this and then someone will say, do you still do it when you say this? And you go, no, I don't do that anymore. That was a big part of it, man. You gotta say that. I'm like, you think? I thought I could edit that out.

• 1:59:49Joe Rogan?

  Like, no, no, no, that makes it better because it sets it up for later. Like, oh, and then you go out and try it that way and you're like, oh shit, he was right.

• 1:59:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:55Joe Rogan?

  Like, sometimes you need your friends around you to tell you. Like, oh, you know, maybe you're doing that bit, you're doing it a different way than you used to do it. Or what if you added this? Or have you ever thought about it from this perspective? Like, imagine the person that's saying that. What are they thinking? They're saying something crazy. What are they thinking? Like, oh yeah, I never thought of that way. And then you have a whole new element of the bit.

• 2:00:16Speaker 02

  I was touring with my buddy Renee Vaca. He's very funny. He's big into crowd work. But, uh, I feel like touring with him helped me work out a few bits.

• 2:00:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah?

• 2:00:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, because I was like, man, I was worried that I'd go out there and like, not be able to keep up. You know, you wanna be as funny as the funniest person on the show. So I was like, what if I go out there and like, this fucking crowd hates me, they like, they whatever. But I was like, I'm gonna just do what I do. And people like him or like on his team who don't see me, uh, perform every weekend, are gonna talk about the parts of my set that stood out the most. Like, the best and the worst. They will, they'll have to. Like, you walk off stage, they're gonna be like, hey, why'd you say that? Like, they're gonna make fun of me if I fucking bomb. Or if I kill, they're gonna be like, hey, that was funny. Like, you know what I mean?

• 2:01:00Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:01:00Speaker 02

  So I was like, I'm gonna just do the fucking set. And they'll give me notes, like, without me asking, like, I'm sure they will. And I felt like it worked. Stuff that I was in my head like, is this working? Is this forced? Like, I don't know. I'd walk off stage and Renee would be like, why the fuck you say that? That was fucking weird. And I'd be like, nah, he's right, he's right. And then it like helped shape the bit over months, you know?

• 2:01:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure. Having people that you can bounce ideas off is huge. It's huge. And having comics that pay attention to your set and give you notes. I mean, Chris Rock used to hire guys just to watch his set. He'd hire a team of comics to sit in the back and they, they would, he would do a set at the comedy store and then they would meet up and go over the material.

• 2:01:40Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 2:01:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, so they would have notes. They'd all say, you know, I liked how you did this, I liked how you did that. I felt like this one was like you were a little less animated this time. In the last set, you were like a little more aggravated about it and I think it made the bit better.

• 2:01:53Speaker 02

  You ever tried that?

• 2:01:54Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:01:55Speaker 02

  No?

• 2:01:55Joe Rogan?

  No, I haven't done. I mean, I've got definitely gotten notes from friends before. You know, and which is great, like when someone will sit back and give you some taglines and shit, that's pretty dope. I love when people do that. But what Chris did was pretty intelligent, very intelligent. But he got a lot of shit for it because people were like, oh, he hires writers. I'm like, I don't think that's what he's doing. It's not like they're writing his set. He's, he's writing his set and then he's bouncing it off some of the best writers in comedy.

• 2:02:25Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:02:25Joe Rogan?

  You know, which I think, I think is a really good way. He used to do it with Richard Jenny when some of his best stuff. If you go back to like his, what I, what I believe is his best specials. His early specials are fucking incredible. And, you know, a lot of that was him working with Richard Jenny in that capacity.

• 2:02:41Speaker 02

  Hey, like when he did that bit, I think it's like a legendary bit, uh, Chris Rock, uh, Bullets. Bullets should cost five grand. He's like, there'll be no more innocent bystanders. That's fucking hilarious.

• 2:02:53Joe Rogan?

  He's got a lot of great ones.

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  You know, you know, one of the, you're here, one of those bits where you're like, ah, I wish I would have thought of that.

• 2:02:59Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:02:59Speaker 02

  One of those bits is, uh, some of my favorite all time jokes is, you ever hear Louis CK when he talks about like, he's afraid of new places, like that's, that's his biggest fear of hell is that he just won't know how things work down there?

• 2:03:10Joe Rogan?

  No, I would do that bit.

• 2:03:12Speaker 02

  It's like something about like, uh, he's like, what if you're walking through hell and then like some demon comes out of a hallway and he's like, he's like, makes you suck his dick. He's like, ah, suck my dick. And then he's like, how do you even know when a demon comes like, it's like, then he, then he comes, it's like fire ants all over you. And then he leaves, you know, and then like some other demon comes and he's like, hey, man, he's like, you didn't have to suck that guy's dick. Like, like this is hell. He's like, it's just some demon. He's like, you better pace yourself. You're here for eternity, you know, like. That fucking, that's dope. I'm like, bro, I wish I would have thought of that. Like, it's just right there, like.

• 2:03:43Joe Rogan?

  That sounds like a Louis Z Gay joke.

• 2:03:46Speaker 02

  Fucking genius. That dude, that dude's fucking genius.

• 2:03:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's great.

• 2:03:50Speaker 02

  The fucking.

• 2:03:51Joe Rogan?

  He gave me a bunch of great taglines once at the improv.

• 2:03:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:03:53Joe Rogan?

  Sat and watched my set and had a bunch of fun lines. That's fun to do. I like, well, Louis did that a lot with Chris as well. He did that with Chris Rock.

• 2:04:01Speaker 02

  They're like in the same class order?

• 2:04:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know, they all were doing it together in New York at the same time, yeah.

• 2:04:08Speaker 02

  Hey, do you ever act?

• 2:04:10Joe Rogan?

  Not anymore.

• 2:04:11Speaker 02

  Nah?

• 2:04:11Joe Rogan?

  Nah, I stopped doing that a while ago. I don't like doing it.

• 2:04:14Speaker 02

  You didn't like it?

• 2:04:15Joe Rogan?

  I'm too busy. I'm too busy and it's not what I, I mean, I, I didn't mind doing it, but it's.

• 2:04:20Speaker 02

  Not the butterfly you wanna chase?

• 2:04:21Joe Rogan?

  Nah, you can't chase all the butterflies. No, it's like, it's too time consuming. You know, if you're acting, you're on set all day long. You might work six days a week, fifteen hours a day. It's a lot, especially if you're doing a film.

• 2:04:35Speaker 02

  I didn't think about that. I did a, I did a commercial for Verizon in Spanish.

• 2:04:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah?

• 2:04:40Speaker 02

  Big thing. Again, they should have checked my Spanish first. That's on there.

• 2:04:45Speaker 02

  But, yeah.

• 2:04:46Joe Rogan?

  Did people complain about your Spanish?

• 2:04:49Speaker 02

  Dude, you have no idea. They made me talk to a dialect coach because they didn't have a problem with like, like, it wasn't a, it wasn't an issue of like, oh, he doesn't know how to say this word or that word. No, it was like, it's fine. It was my accent. They said I, I, I spoke a northern Spanish, which is, I mean, yeah, my family's from like the northern part of Mexico. But apparently, I didn't know, I, I, like, I don't know, my, my Spanish isn't well enough to like, depict accents from different parts of Mexico.

• 2:05:19Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:05:20Speaker 02

  But I guess it's the Mexican version of like country.

• 2:05:23Joe Rogan?

  Oh, so you're like southern?

• 2:05:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, but over there it's northern.

• 2:05:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:28Speaker 02

  And they don't like that. They, they said they wanted it to be a more neutral Spanish, that they want me to sound like I'm from like a city, like a big, like Mexico City or some shit. So like, I had to read, we filmed like all day, right, the commercial? And there's no talking, cause the dialogue is all like in my mind.

• 2:05:45Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I see.

• 2:05:46Speaker 02

  And so at the end of the day, they had me like record the lines into a microphone. And I'm just like, alright, easy money.

• 2:05:51Joe Rogan?

  So what was the difference in the way you had to pronounce the words? So can you give me an example?

• 2:05:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, apparently.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  The way I talk, I like.

• 2:06:03Speaker 02

  I had to say the words with no, like, I had to say them like, how do I explain it, like, just straighter, like.

• 2:06:10Speaker 02

  I don't know, man, it's like.

• 2:06:11Joe Rogan?

  Give me an example of the words.

• 2:06:14Speaker 02

  Like I had, like I had to, like I had to say like. Ahora que estoy con Verizon, ahora tengo tanto dinero. But I, I can't, like, it's like if you took a dude from like the fucking country, like Alabama. And you were like, you have to talk like if you were just from fucking, I don't know, Northern California, like, or where is, what's?

• 2:06:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Northern California is a good one.

• 2:06:36Speaker 02

  Right? They don't have like a accent, right?

• 2:06:38Joe Rogan?

  It's neutral.

• 2:06:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:06:39Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:40Speaker 02

  So it's like, it's kind of tough.

• 2:06:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's not tough for people in America because you hear all those accents.

• 2:06:46Speaker 02

  Well, for me, it was tough because like, I don't live in Mexico, so I'm like, you want me to talk like people I didn't grow up around? Like, I'm talking like all the people I grew up around, so it's like, it was a little foreign to me, you know what I mean?

• 2:06:56Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  I, I had to re-record my lines back home in Dallas, which wasn't a big deal. I just remember talking to the, the dialect coach, and she's like, no, no, say it like this, though, and I'm just like. I, I feel like I had, I, I know people say I talk very monotone, like, very laid back. But I feel like I had to do that more in Spanish, like, instead of just saying like, hey, ahora puedes cambiar tu, tu plan for Verizon. I had to be like, ahora cambia tu plan con Verizon, like, I had to talk like the fucking dude at the end of a commercial, who's like, so, so, subject may vary to change, blah, blah, blah, like.

• 2:07:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, a fast guy.

• 2:07:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I could do it like, fast and like, no accent, so I couldn't, I feel like, I, I feel like I couldn't move my mouth a lot, like, I had to just like whisper it out. And then that's when they finally liked it. Which I, I mean, they paid me very well, like, shout out to Verizon, I'm not complaining. I just think it's funny that they were just like, and they didn't know at first because it, it's like different types of, uh. Like Latinos working on that commercial, it was like a Puerto Rican dude and Venezuelan dude, you know what I mean?

• 2:07:56Joe Rogan?

  And so you took the Mexicans to recognize the difference in the accent?

• 2:07:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, the uh, the girl who was like the uh, costume designer, whatever, she was just like, hey, this dude talks country as hell. And everybody was like, what? She was like, I better not let him talk like that. She was cool as hell, I loved her, but in my mind, I was like, motherfucker, like.

• 2:08:13Joe Rogan?

  That's funny, they probably would have released that and people would have got mad then.

• 2:08:17Speaker 02

  I don't think so, I think, I feel like maybe people from my part of Mexico would have been like, hell yeah.

• 2:08:22Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:08:23Speaker 02

  That's us, we feel represented.

• 2:08:24Joe Rogan?

  Right, like, if you had something in America and you had someone talking in a Texas accent, no one would care.

• 2:08:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, you wouldn't.

• 2:08:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:08:31Speaker 02

  You'd just be like, alright, fuck it.

• 2:08:32Joe Rogan?

  Maybe they just know the Mexican market different, though.

• 2:08:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess because they, they wanna make sure they appeal to like, all sorts of Latinos and may, I don't know, maybe, maybe a Puerto Rican dude would hear that and be like, the fuck is this goofy ass dude saying?

• 2:08:45Joe Rogan?

  Have you ever thought about doing shows in all Spanish?

• 2:08:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would, I would like to break into that.

• 2:08:51Joe Rogan?

  But Tom Segura's done a bunch of those.

• 2:08:52Speaker 02

  Bro, I saw him in Spanish, dude was hilarious. I've never seen Tom perform in English, I've only seen like, you know, like his specials or like on YouTube, but when I saw him in Spanish live, I was like, bro, this is fucking.

• 2:09:03Joe Rogan?

  He's got fluent Spanish, and most people don't know that, which is funny, because he's had, he's had people talk shit in Spanish around him, because he looks like a regular white guy.

• 2:09:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:09:11Joe Rogan?

  But he's not.

• 2:09:11Speaker 02

  He spent his summers like in Peru or something like that, right?

• 2:09:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, I mean, he's fluent. I mean, he could do shows in Spanish.

• 2:09:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, he told a story about like, uh, like a German prostitute or something like that, I can't remember the bits. All I remember was thinking like, man, this dude's like fucking doing master kung fu up there.

• 2:09:28Joe Rogan?

  It is master kung fu if you can kill in two different languages, that's pretty wild.

• 2:09:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:09:33Joe Rogan?

  You know, there's not a lot of humans.

• 2:09:34Speaker 02

  It's like Tiger Style versus fucking Crane or whatever, you know what I mean?

• 2:09:37Joe Rogan?

  Like, what percentage of comics can kill in two languages? It's gotta be the smallest percent, I mean, I mean, it's probably a handful in the whole world.

• 2:09:45Speaker 02

  I wanna film a, I wanna film a special, like in Japan, but I wanna do it like at, like just to fucking, like troll comics, like in the States, where like, I don't want people to know that it wasn't a real special. Like I want, maybe just a promo for a special, and it's just me in Japan, but killing it. In front of a Japanese audience, but I'm not speaking Japanese at all. Like, I'm just doing the same English jokes. And, and I wanna promote it as if I recorded it over like a Japanese tour. And just, everybody wonder like, what the fuck? Like, was it English speaking Japanese people?

• 2:10:24Joe Rogan?

  Well, you just gave it up already, so it's not gonna work now.

• 2:10:27Speaker 02

  Ah, well, I'll still fuck with the people who don't listen to your podcast.

• 2:10:30Joe Rogan?

  They'll find this, they'll find this recording. They'll go back and find it. He was planning on trolling us.

• 2:10:37Speaker 02

  I gotta think of another way to troll people.

• 2:10:38Joe Rogan?

  Why is that even interesting to you? Why do you wanna do that?

• 2:10:40Speaker 02

  I just think it's funnier to fuck with people. And I just think that, I just think it'd make me laugh to watch like a trailer for a special. Or I'm just like.

• 2:10:48Joe Rogan?

  Killing in Japan.

• 2:10:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like to people who have no idea what I'm saying. But like, I want people to wonder like, did they know? Was there a translator or something?

• 2:10:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, a lot of people in Japan speak English. You probably could do shows over there. And there's a lot of expats over there. Like, if you wanted to do a show in Japan, you'd probably have a lot of expats and British people.

• 2:11:07Speaker 02

  Expats?

• 2:11:08Joe Rogan?

  People that left America, who live in Japan. There's a lot of those. It's really cheap to move to Japan. They're, they're actually encouraging people to move to Japan.

• 2:11:16Speaker 02

  Bro, I saw a YouTube video on that. This dude, I think he moved from like LA or somewhere in California. And for like a hundred and ten grand, he got like an acre and a half or something like that, or more maybe.

• 2:11:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, Japan is experiencing population collapse.

• 2:11:29Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:11:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They're not having kids. In a, at a replacement rate. So, replacement rate means like, if there's two parents, you should have like three or more kids. Like, you, you have, if you're trying to replace the people that are here. When you think about how many people are gonna die of old age, how many people are gonna die, how many people are gonna live? How's the population sustain itself over the course of the next X amount of generations? Well, you have to have a high replacement rate. And right now, Japan has a very low replacement rate. Like, it's spooky low. Where the point where they're, they're in a panic and they're trying to figure out how to encourage people to move to Japan. How to get people in Japan to have kids.

• 2:12:10Speaker 02

  Oh, because there's like, um...

• 2:12:14Joe Rogan?

  Lot of insults though.

• 2:12:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:12:16Joe Rogan?

  That's what it is.

• 2:12:16Speaker 02

  But, no, what I'm saying is like they're, I mean, that's, that's gotta be kinda scary because if, if they're not replacing people, that means, uh, like fucking jobs won't get replaced too.

• 2:12:25Joe Rogan?

  Not just jobs, they're gonna, the country's gonna go un, there won't be any people left.

• 2:12:30Speaker 02

  What do you mean? There would, uh, I mean, there would just be way less people, but it's not like they're gonna all disappear.

• 2:12:35Joe Rogan?

  Well, they'll all die off, and if they don't have kids, that's it.

• 2:12:37Speaker 02

  I'm worried about like, who's gonna fucking, you know, farm and take care of the animals and shit?

• 2:12:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, there's gonna be less of that too, but they're the probably, probably the people that will have kids, is the farmers and the rural people. But what is Japan's replacement rate? It's very low, right, Jamie?

• 2:12:52Speaker 02

  How's our replacement rate? We're alright, right? We're knocking, knocking, getting knocked up like crazy?

• 2:12:56Joe Rogan?

  A little weird too.

• 2:12:57Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:12:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we're, we're in a weird situation too.

• 2:13:00Speaker 02

  I feel like all my friends knocked up their girlfriends already.

• 2:13:03Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's good, that's nice. There's a lot of people here, and there's a lot more people aren't having kids than have ever before. It's, it's different. We're not in danger, but like, South Korea's in danger. Like, South Korea, the replacement rate is really bad. Yeah, I think it's something crazy, like, how many people that are alive today will have grandchildren? And it's very small.

• 2:13:27Speaker 02

  Fuck, man.

• 2:13:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. But you don't think about it that way because you just look at all the people that are there right now. Right? If you're in Japan, you see all this traffic, like, oh, their population's fine. If you go to Korea, look at all the people. But the reality is, these are people that are alive now because the baby boomers, then Generation X, and then, people are still having kids, but the amount of people that are having kids right now is lower than it's ever been.

• 2:13:51Speaker 02

  So how do we fix that?

• 2:13:53Joe Rogan?

  It's hard, cuz you're gonna have to make people attracted to each other, and some people just aren't attractive. Some people put no effort into that, some people are social outcasts, and they've lived their life that way. So Japan's population is shrinking, here's what it means, and what some are doing about it.

• 2:14:10Joe Rogan?

  So Japan may have the longest national life expectancy, about eighty-five years, and the world's largest city, Tokyo, but the nation's population has been in decline for fifteen years. Last year, more than two people died for every baby born, a net loss of almost a million people. And now the island nation is on pace to shrink in half by this century's end. Diminishing population is Japan's most urgent problem, says Taro Kono, longtime high-ranking minister of Japan's parliament. Kono, nearly elected prime minister in 2021, said he intends to seek the highest office again and believes the country should prioritize combating the population decline. It's a giant issue. There are less and less number of younger generation. All the burdens are on the young generation, and they won't

• 2:14:54Joe Rogan?

  be able to sustain, so our society's going to be breaking up. Economy is just going to stagnate. Pretty nuts, man. Japan's military recruited only half the people it needed. There's a labor shortage in every industry, including the government.

• 2:15:12Speaker 02

  Bless you.

• 2:15:13Joe Rogan?

  Thank you. Crazy, right?

• 2:15:15Speaker 02

  It's crazy that the cure to this is just like, don't pull out.

• 2:15:21Joe Rogan?

  Well, not just don't pull out, but actually raise your children.

• 2:15:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, that too, you know?

• 2:15:25Joe Rogan?

  And have a bunch. Yeah, that's why Elon has like nineteen kids.

• 2:15:29Speaker 02

  He does?

• 2:15:30Joe Rogan?

  Oh, he's got a ton of them. But I think you're supposed to take care of the kids. You're supposed to be around them all the time. How are you gonna do that if you have nineteen?

• 2:15:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like a little village.

• 2:15:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a lot of people. Kondo says he's one of thousands Japanese in monogamous romantic relationships with fictional characters. What?

• 2:15:46Speaker 02

  Kondo says he's...

• 2:15:47Joe Rogan?

  That's the guy? No, no. Who's that? Oh, that's this guy.

• 2:15:51Speaker 02

  That guy, that guy's in a...

• 2:15:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, he looks like he needs to be in a romantic... He married an anime character in a formal ceremony in 2018. Oh, Christ.

• 2:16:03Speaker 02

  Animes was fucking it up. Look at this dude, man.

• 2:16:06Joe Rogan?

  He's in a monogamous relationship with fictional characters. Almost half of Japan's millennial singles, age eighteen thirty-four, self-report as virgins.

• 2:16:17Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 2:16:19Joe Rogan?

  Compared to barely twenty percent in the US, that's a lot in the US. There's twenty percent thirty-four-year-old virgins? That's crazy.

• 2:16:27Speaker 00

  Oh, self-reported.

• 2:16:29Joe Rogan?

  Right. They might be lying, lying hoes. How many of them are ladies? How many of them are ladies with a body count?

• 2:16:35Speaker 02

  Bro, but here's the thing, it's like, fuck, man, why? This, this sounds like the, like, the plot of like a funny movie. It's like, we gotta, we gotta make these guys get laid, you know?

• 2:16:46Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:16:47Speaker 02

  But they're out here fucking getting in relationships with anime characters. It's like, do we want that guy to have more kids? You know what I mean?

• 2:16:52Joe Rogan?

  That's a good point. That's a good point. And what girl's gonna wanna be burdened down with that guy as your provider? And also, you're gonna have to have sex with him? Like, you're not gonna be attracted to that guy?

• 2:17:01Speaker 02

  You know what Japan should do is they should outsource.

• 2:17:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're doing that, too.

• 2:17:05Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:17:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they're bringing in a lot of people from other countries.

• 2:17:07Speaker 02

  They gotta bring in people to train these guys.

• 2:17:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, to train them?

• 2:17:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, I got douchey friends who are like on dating apps and shit and they're fucking, they're just sleazy, you know what I mean? They're out here trying to go on dates like every fucking night with girls. Send these guys over there. We pay them a handsome price. And we get them to make their like hinge profiles for them and just fucking lie.

• 2:17:29Joe Rogan?

  What is this, Jamie? What are you showing me?

• 2:17:30Speaker 00

  A village in Japan that has a bunch of puppets around.

• 2:17:34Joe Rogan?

  What? Because of the population decline?

• 2:17:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:17:38Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 2:17:40Speaker 00

  They're surrounded by people. I don't know.

• 2:17:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God. To combat its loneliness, creating colorful mannequins re- resembling their loved ones? What? That's depressing. Mimicking the vibrant life. So they have dolls everywhere mimicking the people because they're in such population decline?

• 2:18:01Speaker 02

  There's fucking people in Japan who hate like tourism. Motherfucker, you need me out there.

• 2:18:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, there's people that were the grandchildren, the people that survived the bombs.

• 2:18:14Speaker 02

  Oh. I wasn't me, I was Oppenheimer. A bunch of old white dudes, you know?

• 2:18:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I wasn't there.

• 2:18:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, come on. My grandpa was in Mexico doing, you know what? Creating two families so that we don't have your problems.

• 2:18:26Joe Rogan?

  There you go.

• 2:18:27Speaker 02

  We have a, I have an uncle that my mom found on Facebook when I was like in high school. It's like, you know, one of my grandpas. I, I, I know it's like a bad way to put it, and I love my uncle, but he's like, one of his bastard children, you know what I mean? Yeah. And, uh, I just thought, I don't know, it was always hilarious to me that like, my mom just found this dude and like brought him over. And my grandpa was just like, hey, like, how you been? Because my grandpa apparently used to go check up on him from time to time. Wow. But it's just so funny to me that my grandpa, like, nothing ever happened, like, oh yeah, I didn't tell you guys, like, those were his vibes, you know what I mean?

• 2:19:05Speaker 02

  We all went to a baseball game together. Wow. How weird was that? I didn't think it was too. Did you feel sad for him? Nah, I thought it was cool. I don't, I don't think he like, needed my grandpa. Like, I think he grew up with like a father figure, like a stepdad or something. So I don't think it was like, like, oh, my dad, you know, I think he was kind of, he probably, I mean, I don't know what all his emotions were. I imagine that's hell, you know, beneath, but like on the outside, he was just very nice to me and like, he's, he's cool with my mom, he's cool with my uncle. I think, I think for him, he, he, I will say this, for me, he was the first relative that I, on my mom's side, that I felt like I really related to.

• 2:19:52Speaker 02

  He's the only one on my mom's side that looks like me too. Wow. And my, my mom, my uncle, my cousins, they're all like, tough. Like, I've seen the mob been questioned by police in handcuffs and they don't break. And like, even my mom, and I'm, I'm sitting there like whispering to my mom, like, just snitch, just snitch, like, say something, you know, like, my mom, like, I've seen that, you know, and like, then, then I meet my uncle, and he has like this kind of like, hey, let's look at the, the glass half full, like, more sensitive type, and I'm like, that's my guy. Like, me and this dude click. He's a teacher. Uh, he's, yeah, he's such cool people. I just thought it was hilarious that my grandpa never like.

• 2:20:39Speaker 02

  I don't know if you apologized to him. But like to my grandpa, it was just like, hey, look, look what ended up happening. The whole family's together. And it's like, bro, you hit a kid from your other kids for like years. Like, these are all grown adults in their thirties now.

• 2:20:53Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:20:53Speaker 02

  And my grandpa even, um. I remember my grandpa telling my uncle, he's like, yeah, don't you remember? He's like, ah, you were in karate. He's like, I I used to go down there and stay with you every now and then. He's like, and and you were showing me what you learned in karate. You were like twelve or something. And, uh. He's just like, no, I don't remember that. But like my uncle and my my other uncle and my mom are listening to this story. And I imagine in their minds, they're just like, what the fuck? Like, so that weekend that you were gone for like work? Like, that's what you were doing? Like?

• 2:21:25Joe Rogan?

  Going to see your other kids karate in another country?

• 2:21:28Speaker 02

  My grandpa, like, he never really talked like if he did anything wrong, which I I thought was hilarious. It has to be traumatizing for my. You know, my mom and my uncle and stuff, but like.

• 2:21:37Joe Rogan?

  People were different back in those days.

• 2:21:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure.

• 2:21:41Joe Rogan?

  When life is harder, people are less sensitive.

• 2:21:44Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:21:45Joe Rogan?

  For sure.

• 2:21:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:21:46Joe Rogan?

  And, you know, you go back to your grandpa's days, or my grandpa's days. Different world. Plus, you know, you got to realize those people were dealing with. That was like, like, what year was this?

• 2:22:00Speaker 02

  What, during my grandpa's having these kids? It's like eighties?

• 2:22:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, different world.

• 2:22:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, for sure. He he told me stories, like, I think they put my grandpa to work when he was like seven, both my grandparents, like on both sides. But.

• 2:22:14Joe Rogan?

  Harder people, man. Like loggers.

• 2:22:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, like loggers.

• 2:22:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:20Speaker 02

  It's all, it's all good. I, that's why I think we need to go back to, maybe not like, you know. Trying to conquer empires and shit, but we need to dial it back a little bit. People need more pain. Life is getting too leisurely.

• 2:22:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:22:36Speaker 02

  When people, when, when life gets too leisure, you start to, uh, I think you start to look for like the next little issue.

• 2:22:45Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 2:22:46Speaker 02

  Issues get smaller and smaller.

• 2:22:47Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 2:22:48Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 2:22:48Joe Rogan?

  That, well, that we're finding that in this society, for sure.

• 2:22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:22:51Joe Rogan?

  And people concentrate on a lot of things that aren't really important because life's a little easy.

• 2:22:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:22:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Nothing wakes people up like a nice attack. Like after September 11th, let me tell you something, man, this country, you were too young to probably remember it, but during September 11th, the, the country was so united, it was so crazy. Everybody in LA had American flags on their cars. In LA? In LA. I mean, I'm talking about like 80% of the cars. You drive down the street for the first couple of weeks, 80% of the cars had American flags on them. It was nuts. Everybody was united.

• 2:23:24Speaker 02

  That, um, that's always kind of crazy to me when I hear people talk about like, cause I don't go to LA too often, but I hear talk about, I hear people talk about like how LA was. Like, uh, like the South Park guys, I think in an interview they were saying like to be, to be like punk rock in LA, you had to say you were like Republican.

• 2:23:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:23:47Speaker 02

  LA trips me out though. I don't know. And not, I mean, there's stuff that fascinates me about liberals and like Republicans, maybe because I'm not like too far on either side or whatever, but it just trips me out that there's like,

• 2:24:01Speaker 02

  not, not that I'm like a, a huge patriot, but it does trip me out that like people, I guess are not happy here or like not proud of it. I used to spend my summers in Mexico. It's like, you'll, you'll appreciate a lot of American shit like that, you know what I mean?

• 2:24:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:18Speaker 02

  But I'm not gonna go too far into this.

• 2:24:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's what you're talking about before is if your life is too easy, you find things to complain about, like,

• 2:24:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:24:24Joe Rogan?

  America's the worst. Like, no, it's not the worst, it's the best. It's just people are fucked. And people in other parts of the world, when you give them more power and you have less control of your own life and you have less freedom, less ability to express yourself, it's a lot fucking worse.

• 2:24:39Speaker 02

  I'm just happy we got all this food too, like, we got good food. You ever wa, you ever hear about like a menu, like in some European country or like, I, I saw a menu for a restaurant like in fucking Prague or something like that one time? I'm not saying that all their food is like that. They look fucking horrible. They're like bland food. And I know our food is bad and it's making us fat, but at least it's good, you know? Like at least we have the fucking option to get fat. The option.

• 2:25:04Joe Rogan?

  The options are good.

• 2:25:05Speaker 02

  Hell yeah.

• 2:25:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Uh, yeah, but if you live in a place where people are poor, you're gonna eat bland food.

• 2:25:12Speaker 02

  True.

• 2:25:13Joe Rogan?

  Unless they have good spices that aren't expensive.

• 2:25:15Speaker 02

  You like Indian food?

• 2:25:16Joe Rogan?

  I love Indian food, yeah.

• 2:25:17Speaker 02

  I can't do it.

• 2:25:18Joe Rogan?

  You can't eat spicy?

• 2:25:19Speaker 02

  I, I like spicy.

• 2:25:20Joe Rogan?

  You like spicy Mexican?

• 2:25:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, spicy Mexican.

• 2:25:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, what's wrong with spicy Indian? What don't you like?

• 2:25:26Speaker 02

  I mean, it tasted good. I, I've only had it like twice, but both times just gave me the runs. My stomach's not built for it.

• 2:25:32Joe Rogan?

  Not built for curry?

• 2:25:33Speaker 02

  Uh-uh, I'm not. But it, and like, I don't know, then again, maybe it was just the people who made it. Both times it was homemade.

• 2:25:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:25:41Speaker 02

  So, I'm not gonna say their names.

• 2:25:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, go to a good Indian restaurant, see if you agree still.

• 2:25:45Speaker 02

  I like sushi a lot. That's my shit, man.

• 2:25:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, you wanna get the runs, that's a good way to do it too.

• 2:25:50Speaker 02

  Sushi?

• 2:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Sure.

• 2:25:51Speaker 02

  Oh, cause it's like raw fish and shit?

• 2:25:52Joe Rogan?

  Well, you can get parasites and stuff. I like sushi too, but there's a reality of eating raw things. That's why pregnant women aren't supposed to eat sushi.

• 2:26:03Speaker 02

  I fucking, I tried, uh, what do you call the snails? What do they call it?

• 2:26:07Joe Rogan?

  Escargot.

• 2:26:08Speaker 02

  Bro, I tried that for the first time. That shit's delicious.

• 2:26:11Joe Rogan?

  It's pretty good, right?

• 2:26:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:26:12Joe Rogan?

  Who'd imagine that snails taste so good?

• 2:26:15Speaker 02

  Whoever, whoever had the balls to try that first snail, like, they were on to something.

• 2:26:18Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they were poor and starving. They probably cooked everything they could. They probably tried everything. That's why people eat crickets. That's why, you know, people are starving.

• 2:26:27Speaker 02

  Never tried crickets.

• 2:26:28Joe Rogan?

  They're good.

• 2:26:29Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:26:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I've had them, had them in Mexico.

• 2:26:31Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:26:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:26:32Speaker 02

  The fuck?

• 2:26:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They fried them up and served it.

• 2:26:36Speaker 02

  I've heard about that, but...

• 2:26:38Joe Rogan?

  They like had a bowl of them sitting in the, uh, the hotel when we got in there. I was like, what is this?

• 2:26:43Speaker 02

  What the fuck? What part of Mexico did you go to?

• 2:26:45Joe Rogan?

  Uh, I think this one was Puerto, I think it was Puerto Vallarta.

• 2:26:52Speaker 02

  I've never been out there.

• 2:26:53Joe Rogan?

  I think that's where we were. I think we were Punta Mita. Um, but there's a lot of people that eat bugs, man. A lot of people eat fried bugs.

• 2:27:03Speaker 02

  It's nuts, bro.

• 2:27:04Joe Rogan?

  That's not bad. They're kinda crunchy.

• 2:27:07Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 2:27:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, not bad. Cicadas, you know when those cicadas hatch?

• 2:27:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:11Joe Rogan?

  People eat cicadas.

• 2:27:12Speaker 02

  Got a lot of those in my garage.

• 2:27:14Joe Rogan?

  Do you?

• 2:27:14Speaker 02

  I might try it.

• 2:27:16Joe Rogan?

  Try it out.

• 2:27:16Speaker 02

  Cause I live out in the country.

• 2:27:17Joe Rogan?

  Kind of recipe online.

• 2:27:18Speaker 02

  Garage door open, dog, come in and shit.

• 2:27:20Joe Rogan?

  Get those fuckers, fry them up.

• 2:27:22Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:27:23Joe Rogan?

  I'm not kidding, like my friend Ryan, yeah, who was just on the podcast recently. He, uh, well, he had a big hatch, you know, cause every X amount of years, they have a bunch of them emerge and it's like crazy. And they were everywhere and, uh, he baked them in the oven, I think with teriyaki sauce. Said they were delicious.

• 2:27:39Speaker 02

  Do you, do you ever take advantage of the fact?

• 2:27:41Joe Rogan?

  Tell you that. These crickets.

• 2:27:44Speaker 02

  Uh, nah, couldn't eat those.

• 2:27:46Joe Rogan?

  Are those cicadas too? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are those cicadas and crickets or just cicadas? I think it's just cicadas. So they're on a stick. They're on a stick like, uh, shish kebab.

• 2:27:55Speaker 02

  Fuck that dude.

• 2:27:55Joe Rogan?

  Fuck yeah, bro. I'll get in there.

• 2:27:58Speaker 02

  Do you, do you realize like, and do you ever take advantage of the fact that you hold so much power over so many people? Like you're Joe Rogan. If you told somebody right now, like if you eat fucking gum off the floor, it's twice as nutritious as like a steak.

• 2:28:13Joe Rogan?

  You can do that once.

• 2:28:14Speaker 02

  People would believe you.

• 2:28:16Joe Rogan?

  No, they'll only believe you if you lie to them once. They'll believe you that time and then every time after that, they'll never believe you.

• 2:28:22Speaker 02

  Have you ever tried to fuck with anybody?

• 2:28:24Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 2:28:24Speaker 02

  No?

• 2:28:26Joe Rogan?

  With great power comes great responsibility, Ralph Barbosa.

• 2:28:29Speaker 02

  If I was you, I'd be lying to people all the fucking time.

• 2:28:31Joe Rogan?

  You probably would, yeah. You probably would, yeah.

• 2:28:34Speaker 02

  I'd be like STDs are a myth and people would just stop using condoms like, and then I'd fix Japan's population problem, you know?

• 2:28:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, you just need to send some horny dudes over there, get, get things going. They're gonna have to do something though. They're importing humans. They're asking people to move there.

• 2:28:50Speaker 02

  I might move there.

• 2:28:52Joe Rogan?

  Very beautiful place, beautiful, safe, peaceful.

• 2:28:56Speaker 02

  If they say people are real quiet, though, that's kind of scares me. Cause like I'm quiet, but I'm afraid to be the loud guy now.

• 2:29:01Joe Rogan?

  You will definitely be the loud guy in Japan. Yeah, they're real quiet and they're super orderly. When they walked on the street, they don't bump into each other, they move around each other, everyone's really polite. Everything's super clean, like you go through Tokyo, big, beautiful city. Everything's clean, no garbage on the ground, no pollu- I mean pollution for sure, but I mean, you know, just refi- just garbage, trash.

• 2:29:22Speaker 02

  Hey, but they live pretty, uh, compact, don't they, in the city at least?

• 2:29:26Joe Rogan?

  In the city, well, they do in New York City too, you know?

• 2:29:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude, that's, I don't know if I, I li- I stayed in New York for like two, three months.

• 2:29:33Joe Rogan?

  It's not my jam.

• 2:29:34Speaker 02

  I, I like it, but I, I'll, after that, like two, three, it was like two months, maybe? I was like, alright, I need to go back to where there's like fucking space.

• 2:29:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:29:44Speaker 02

  This, this.

• 2:29:45Joe Rogan?

  Even when I lived in New York, I didn't live in New York City, I couldn't afford it. I had to part, I had to, I had to have a car back then because I was doing road gigs. So I would, uh, I would have had to got a parking spot at a garage in New York City, so you have to pay. And they could be hundreds of dollars back then a month, probably now thousands of dollars a month that I just didn't have. So in order for me, and also the apartments in New York were so much more expensive than where I was. I lived in New Rochelle, which is, you know, a half hour plus outside of New York City.

• 2:30:17Speaker 02

  I didn't even know it.

• 2:30:18Joe Rogan?

  It's just a regular suburban neighborhood, but it was great. I had a little driveway, could park my car in my driveway, it was golden, it was perfect.

• 2:30:26Speaker 02

  My favorite wings are in New York, on the Upper East Side. There's a place called, uh, International Wing Factory. Which I think is a crazy name, International Wing Factory, there's only two tables in there. You can fit four people in that restaurant, but the wings, the Nashville hot wings, they're so fucking good.

• 2:30:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, New York has an insane number of great restaurants. That's one good thing about living in New York City. If you're a person who likes to go out to dinner and you live in New York City, you can go to a different place every night of the week for years. And you have some of the best restaurants on earth.

• 2:31:00Speaker 02

  I don't know what like the math is on this, but if you have so many good restaurants. Yeah, that's the spot, two tables, and they play techno a lot.

• 2:31:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, no, it's a great place to eat. I just don't think it's good for your brain to be surrounded by that many people all the time. One thing they have, though, that's nice is the park. Central Park is incredible. Like, if you live in the city, you can actually be in nature.

• 2:31:23Speaker 02

  You say you don't think it's good for there to be a lot of people around you?

• 2:31:27Joe Rogan?

  I don't think stacked up like that on top of each other is normal for people. I don't think your brain is designed to operate like that. Just be constantly surrounded by people you don't even know all the time, that's very unusual in human history. Like, most people knew everyone around them up until, you know, X amount of thousands of years ago. We're kind of designed to be in tribal environments where we understand what our environment is and who's around us and what's our community. You know, I have a friend, like my friend Jim Norton, who lives in New York City, who was telling me, he's like, I live in this giant apartment. I don't know anybody in it. He goes, I don't know who my neighbor is. I don't know anybody. He goes, which is kind of crazy, because you think about it, you're in a building, you share a building with hundreds of people.

• 2:32:11Speaker 02

  They're in every direction of you.

• 2:32:13Joe Rogan?

  All around you, you don't know any of them. I just think it it takes away a sense of community, which is weird, because you would think the more people, the more community. But it doesn't work like that. When you have too many people, I think oftentimes you you don't value them, because there's too many of them, they become a burden.

• 2:32:32Speaker 02

  Less importance.

• 2:32:32Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. They don't they don't mean anything to you.

• 2:32:34Speaker 02

  Hey, that must be why they let people just, like, I saw this dude one time at the subway, laying down, uh, face down on the ground. And everybody just kept walking around them.

• 2:32:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

• 2:32:45Speaker 02

  And I was like, well, that guy could be dead. Nobody, it's just another fucking date to them.

• 2:32:50Joe Rogan?

  Right. If it was a small town in the middle of Oklahoma, and a guy like was laying down like that, and was a regular guy, you're like, oh, my God, you OK, sir? People will check in on you, they call the police. Yeah. In the subway, that guy could be dead for a day before anybody says anything. Also have to deal with schizophrenics and fucking psychotic people, so when you're going down to the subway, you can't stand close to the edge. Because people literally push people in front of trains.

• 2:33:15Speaker 02

  Hey, well, hold on, that brings me, I wanted to ask you something. Have you ever, because I saw you have like the books on psilocybin, I know you've done a lot of research like on mushrooms. Have you ever read anything about like? Uh mushrooms or other other kinds of drugs being able to like um like trigger schizophrenia in people like if it's in their genetics.

• 2:33:40Joe Rogan?

  They think that's the case with marijuana, especially high dose pot, um maybe maybe edibles. I'm not sure if they think it's more from edibles or more from just smoking it, but yeah, there's a certain amount of people that it seems like it triggers some kind of schizophrenic break. Like maybe they might have a tendency towards schizophrenia and some, you know, like the real crazy paranoia that you can get if you get really high.

• 2:34:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:34:04Joe Rogan?

  For some people, that crazy paranoia hits the switch and they don't come back.

• 2:34:10Speaker 02

  I I I've had my last few mushroom trips, not with weed though.

• 2:34:17Speaker 02

  But I'm trying to think if I was smoking and on shrooms.

• 2:34:23Speaker 02

  My last few mushroom trips, I started hearing voices, but I also think it might have been like I was exhausted, like my brain was just like. Because I I'd be awake all day and then I'd do the mushrooms like at midnight and then I'd be awake until like the next day, basically. But at some point or another in the trip, usually towards the end of the trip, I'd like hear voices. So it scared me off of mushrooms. I haven't done them in like, I don't know how long. But I I was just, I read, I heard.

• 2:34:50Joe Rogan?

  What were the voices saying?

• 2:34:52Speaker 02

  Uh, one of them, I remember arguing with like other versions of myself. I was talking like loud, like on one of them, it was a really bad trip though. I ate like somewhere north of like seven or eight grams. And that one was bad. I kept blacking out.

• 2:35:09Speaker 02

  But on that trip, I argued with like two other voices, which I'm pretty sure were like other versions of myself. And which was me, me was me, me, like the balanced one, more balanced one. And then I had like this other one that was like a very like angry version of myself, very much like a like like. Like shut the fuck up, stop complaining type. And then I had like a very like sensitive little bitch version of myself. I felt like they were all three arguing. And I was just like arguing back.

• 2:35:41Joe Rogan?

  Out loud.

• 2:35:42Speaker 02

  Out loud.

• 2:35:43Joe Rogan?

  Was there anybody around you?

• 2:35:45Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:35:46Joe Rogan?

  That's good.

• 2:35:47Speaker 02

  I was in a hotel room by myself.

• 2:35:48Joe Rogan?

  Geez.

• 2:35:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, I fucked that hotel room up.

• 2:35:52Joe Rogan?

  You you took seven grams in a hotel room?

• 2:35:54Speaker 02

  Mm hmm, I like ninety percent of my trips have been in hotels.

• 2:35:58Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 2:35:59Speaker 02

  I don't know, I have fun. You go out into the nature. I never tried that.

• 2:36:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's better, it's way better, yeah.

• 2:36:07Speaker 02

  I don't know, I don't wanna be like high in public.

• 2:36:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, that's a good point.

• 2:36:12Speaker 02

  I've I've done it like in Vegas.

• 2:36:14Joe Rogan?

  Go somewhere that's unpopulated, like go to some national forest place. Do it do it out in the place where Travis Walton got abducted. Go down that logging road, take seven grams right at the spot. I wonder if you could find the spot where he got abducted, I wonder if there's a pin, like a Google pin.

• 2:36:31Speaker 02

  Ah, yeah.

• 2:36:32Joe Rogan?

  I'd go to that, sniff the ground.

• 2:36:34Speaker 02

  I hope I never get abducted by aliens.

• 2:36:36Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 2:36:37Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 2:36:37Joe Rogan?

  They always bring you back, everybody seems to come back. They don't steal people.

• 2:36:41Speaker 02

  No one's gonna believe me.

• 2:36:43Joe Rogan?

  I know a lady whose grandfather was a famous abductee.

• 2:36:48Speaker 02

  Like, do people believe them?

• 2:36:50Joe Rogan?

  Well, yeah, I believe them. I don't know, because he was an abductee in the nineteen fifties. I think it was the fifties, Betty and Barney Hill. Believe it was the fifties, so Angela Hill is a UFC fighter. And she she didn't even tell me this until after the podcast, Betty and Barney Hill.

• 2:37:11Speaker 02

  That is a Flintstones?

• 2:37:12Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, that's rubble.

• 2:37:19Joe Rogan?

  No, this is a very famous case, so what year was this, Jeremy?

• 2:37:24Speaker 02

  Sixty-one.

• 2:37:25Joe Rogan?

  Sixty-one. So Betty and Barney Hill.

• 2:37:27Speaker 02

  Wait, were they even a racial couple?

• 2:37:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:37:29Speaker 02

  That must have been crazy for the times, huh?

• 2:37:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Crazy for the times. And then on top of that, they get abducted by aliens. Can they catch a fucking break? Um, so her, uh, their granddaughter is, uh, Angela. So Angela who fights in the UFC.

• 2:37:44Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:37:45Joe Rogan?

  And I didn't know about it. Well, we did a whole podcast together. I just want to talk to her about her career, fighting career. At the end of the podcast, she's like, oh, my grandfather, I forgot to tell you, was Barney Hill. I was like, what?

• 2:37:56Speaker 02

  That's, that's a crazy coincidence.

• 2:37:58Joe Rogan?

  I know that case inside and out. It's a crazy case. So they both came back, they went on a trip, and then they saw something in the sky, and then they blacked out, lost time. And they don't know what happened. And they woke up on the side of the road, in the car, and drove, but they were missing time, like more than an hour, I think it was. And then they started having these crazy nightmares. So they both go to psychiatrists, and the psychiatrist or the psychologist, um, does a hypnotic regression thing. Like, let's try to find out what happened to you, and they both independently have this crazy story of being taken aboard a UFO and examined by these beings.

• 2:38:41Joe Rogan?

  And this is in nineteen sixty-one, when this was not something that people talked about. This is like, now the problem is that whole UFO abduction, close encounters of the fourth kind, that's become a thing that everybody knows about. Everybody knows UFOs abduct people. But when nineteen sixty-one, when these people told that story, that was a completely novel thing. Nobody had ever heard that before. And so it was a really crazy story, and then other people with similar stories.

• 2:39:10Speaker 02

  What are the experiments that they conduct on them?

• 2:39:12Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question. You know, you don't know, because hypnotic regression is weird. So someone could hypnotize you and put thoughts in your head, if they were manipulative. They could put thoughts in your head and memories in your head that didn't exist. So you could, someone could hypnotize you, and if they were very skilled, they could figure out a way to get you to believe that something happened to you, especially something minor, that didn't really happen.

• 2:39:38Speaker 02

  I could hire a hip- a hip- hip- what do you-

• 2:39:41Joe Rogan?

  Hypnotist.

• 2:39:42Speaker 02

  Hypnotist? To put the memory in my head that I hooked up with Margot Robbie in a fucking threesome with Scarlett Johansson?

• 2:39:50Joe Rogan?

  Uh, no, that's too outside of science fiction. That's too ridiculous. Nobody would believe that. But, you wouldn't even believe that. And you'd be DMing them, and then they'd have restraining orders on you. "Hey, girls, let's do that again. That shit was fire."

• 2:40:06Joe Rogan?

  No, but like, you know, you could, maybe, maybe someone could put a memory in your head that you got lost at the park when you were a child, and you were terrified, and then the police found you and they brought you back to your parents. Do you remember that? You're like, "No, I don't." You probably blacked it out. Let's try to remember that. And they could put a fucking fake memory.

• 2:40:27Speaker 02

  Well, there's already like a,

• 2:40:30Speaker 02

  I don't know, this is like some shit I saw on another fucking Instagram reel. But don't they say like, a lot of our memories, like, we change them each time we remember them?

• 2:40:38Joe Rogan?

  Yes. And then your memories become a memory of your recollection of the memory. So, it's like, one thing that happens to your friends when they wanna tell some crazy story about high school or something like that, over the years, that fucking story morphs and changes, and shit gets added to it, and then she's got a fucking frying pan, and she's running down the street screaming, her tits are hanging out, and then your friend's like, "What? Her tits are hanging out?" "No, no, no, you never told it like this before." It's like, over time, stories change, you know? Cause the human memory is, like, I have a very good memory, but it's also not exact, right? Like, I don't see it in my head like I, like a film, you know?

• 2:41:20Joe Rogan?

  Like, I could see the most amazing movie, I could go see like, a crazy movie, science fiction movie that I love, it's incredible, and then afterward, I don't remember everything exactly. I can't replay that movie in my head like pressing play. So, memory is like scattered, it's abstract, it's, it's a bunch of like weird flashbacks of, "Oh yeah, then there was that thing." "Oh yeah, then there was that thing." But, they've shown that you can introduce memories into people's heads that aren't real. So, this is the problem. With hypnotic regression,

• 2:41:54Joe Rogan?

  You have to wonder, the people that are involved in like writing, there was a book called Abduction by this guy named John Mack, who is a psychologist at Harvard, I believe. And he did a series of these hypnotic regression things with people that have had abductions with aliens. But he's also writing a book about that, like, so it makes you wanna go like, but did he want to achieve those results? Like, how did he talk to these people? Like, what was the questions? Did he guide them in that way? You know? It's like where they're independent people, that they speak to different hypnotic regression therapists that had different results with them? Is it dependent upon how the person's talking to you? Because someone's talking to you while you're in hypnosis. It's not as simple as like you take a pill and then you remember your past.

• 2:42:39Joe Rogan?

  Well, someone's talking to you. They're asking you specific kinds of questions with a specific tone. You know, and it's maybe it's a man's voice, that maybe is like you feel like he's judging you, or it's a woman's voice and it's more comforting.

• 2:42:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gotta be scary, you know, to get hypnotized and then... What if they make me talk about a memory that I didn't wanna bring up?

• 2:43:05Joe Rogan?

  Right, or what if they put something in your head, like a Manchurian Candidate thing? You know that, that, that concept? Manchurian Candidate is like you hypnotize someone into, you can bring them into action with like a phone call.

• 2:43:20Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:43:21Joe Rogan?

  You call it, "You have been activated," and they're like, click.

• 2:43:23Speaker 02

  Say like a phrase and...

• 2:43:25Joe Rogan?

  And then you go. And then you go and assassinate the president, or whatever it is.

• 2:43:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:29Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:43:30Speaker 02

  That's some scary shit.

• 2:43:30Joe Rogan?

  That's scary shit, because I don't know how much they can actually do. I know they've definitely done a bunch of experiments to see how much they could talk people into doing certain things, how much they can hypnotize people into certain behaviors, whether or not they can get someone to be an assassin with a phone call.

• 2:43:47Speaker 02

  I know this sounds crazy, but I believe, well, I mean, not that I believe it, but I guess I like play with theories in my head. But what if...

• 2:43:56Speaker 02

  All the uh music that gets allowed to be on the radios and all the uh shows that get allowed to be on TV. Are like uh it's like certain patterns in the music or like to the words that they say in the shows like.

• 2:44:12Speaker 02

  That like brainwashes you to like do stuff that we do. Like maybe that's what makes us like go to work and do our forty hours a week. And like respect a thirty minute lunch or something.

• 2:44:25Joe Rogan?

  Like the Rowdy Roddy Piper movie like They Live.

• 2:44:30Joe Rogan?

  It's like uh that's a bad idea, bad idea. There's too many variables, like too many people have to be working in coordination. Everybody is in on this except for you. All the people making the music are in on this?

• 2:44:43Speaker 02

  No, but. Out of all the music that gets made, there's a lot of similarities within music.

• 2:44:50Joe Rogan?

  Right, because there's only a certain amount of chords.

• 2:44:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:44:53Joe Rogan?

  And there's a lot of genres and there was repetitive topics that people choose because they're popular.

• 2:44:59Speaker 02

  So I don't think every hit is a hit like. Like sometimes you hear a song on the radio and you're like, how does it get on the radios? It sucks ass.

• 2:45:09Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:45:09Speaker 02

  But maybe it hit within those chords that like. Like when you hear a certain chord and it makes your mind go into like a different state, like more relaxed or more of this, right?

• 2:45:20Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's definitely that.

• 2:45:22Speaker 02

  Maybe they need our minds to stay in a certain state, so they only allow certain music with certain chords or patterns to play on the radio to keep our minds going this direction.

• 2:45:31Joe Rogan?

  No, Ralph, no. See, you'd have to have a grand mastermind who's in charge of manipulating everybody all the time.

• 2:45:38Speaker 02

  Maybe it's you.

• 2:45:39Joe Rogan?

  To be able to come up with something like that.

• 2:45:40Speaker 02

  Like that, I'm on your tail.

• 2:45:43Speaker 02

  I don't know, man. I I think I'm onto something here.

• 2:45:46Joe Rogan?

  I think you're definitely not and you're gonna waste your time pursuing this. I know a lot of musicians, none of them are being contracted to make certain frequencies that alter the way you behave. You think so, Jamie?

• 2:45:57Speaker 00

  There's something to what he's saying.

• 2:45:59Joe Rogan?

  I'll be honest with you because there's a video going around.

• 2:46:01Speaker 00

  I'll play it for you right now.

• 2:46:03Speaker 02

  What is it? I might be the next Terrence Howard.

• 2:46:08Joe Rogan?

  It's not, I mean, it's uh it's similar. So this is Charlie Puth. He's describing what happens after songs are like, this is in the mixing process. Okay.

• 2:46:18Speaker 06

  Tired and emotional. It's because the song is pitched up with a tape machine. Back in the day, they called this sweetening the audio. Here's what it originally sounded like.

• 2:46:33Speaker 06

  Same thing with this song.

• 2:46:37Speaker 06

  That is sped up, and this is what it originally sounds like.

• 2:46:46Speaker 06

  You might be thinking to yourself right now, Charlie, why do people do this? I will tell you, viewer, when you speed music or tones up and down, it's scientifically proven to make you feel different emotionally. This is the tone all music is basically tuned to. But when you pitch it higher, it brings you to the love frequency, known as 528 hertz. So when people pitch their music up, it brings the listener closer to that feeling. I think music science is really cool. Listen to this song.

• 2:47:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, okay. Well, that's interesting, but that's a little bit different. That's just like making you feel good.

• 2:47:17Speaker 02

  That is exactly what I was trying to say.

• 2:47:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:47:21Joe Rogan?

  That just makes you feel good. Yeah, there's definitely that, man. Music is like a drug. It's a pretty dope drug.

• 2:47:27Speaker 02

  Look, you're proving my point even now.

• 2:47:29Joe Rogan?

  No, but I mean, like, it's an inspirational drug. Yeah, but it does different things to you, you know? That's one of the reasons why I like to mix my drugs when it comes to music. I like my Spotify playlist. It's all, it's all scattered. It's a bunch of different stuff. Like, you might get, like, Nas, and then right after Nas is Lynyrd Skynyrd.

• 2:47:48Speaker 02

  I'm the same way. But I feel like it's important to, uh, to listen to different types of music. Not only because it's cool to, like, see different people's talent, like, from different... Like, I, I think I, I can appreciate talent from, like, any genre.

• 2:48:04Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:48:04Speaker 02

  So, like, if you hear, like, a, like, a Lynyrd Skynyrd song, you're like, holy shit, that guy sang the shit out of that note. Maybe I don't relate to what he's saying, but, like, that was fucking dope. But I also think it helps you, uh, communicate and, like, connect with people from, like, different cultures, different backgrounds.

• 2:48:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, for sure.

• 2:48:20Speaker 02

  Kind of like understanding. So, like, I, cause I, I listen to a lot of, like, a lot of rap, a lot of Spanish music, but then I'll listen to a lot of country as well, but, like, old country, new country. I feel, sometimes I feel like a lot of what I, what comes up, maybe because I don't dig into it too much, but, like, a lot of what comes up on my algorithm is very, like... Modern like pop, like more poppy like.

• 2:48:38Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:48:39Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 2:48:39Joe Rogan?

  I know what you mean, yeah. Manufactured feels like.

• 2:48:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:48:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:48:44Speaker 02

  But I do like to listen to like different types of shit, cuz it's like, I wanna know.

• 2:48:50Speaker 02

  Not that I necessarily wanna know, but it helps me know and understand what like, somebody from a totally different part of the country might like, experience or like enjoy or.

• 2:49:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah, for sure. Well, that's the cool thing about traveling, right? That's one thing that comics have that really, I think, helps us get a better understanding of the whole country, is you, you're on the road a lot. So you're traveling to Ohio one weekend, then you're in Florida, then you're in Michigan. And when you do that, you get a better sense like, oh, this country varies a lot. There's a lot of different kinds of ways to live out there.

• 2:49:23Speaker 02

  There's also, uh, um, one thing that was crazy to me is when I started traveling is, um, how similar a lot of people also are.

• 2:49:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:49:31Speaker 02

  Like sometimes you run into people that are like very proud of like the city they're from and like their neighborhood.

• 2:49:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:49:36Speaker 02

  And, and, you know, they'll fight for it, they'll fucking die for it.

• 2:49:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:49:40Speaker 02

  And then you go to another city and it's like the same person, just a different title.

• 2:49:44Joe Rogan?

  Yep, yep. Yeah, people get real tribal. They're real tribal for their stupid ass town.

• 2:49:52Joe Rogan?

  All right, Ralph Barbosa, uh, tell everybody where you're gonna be. You got a website they can go to to find you with your seven tours, seven date tour?

• 2:50:00Speaker 02

  Yes, sir. Catch me in one of the seven Cs, uh, at, oh, my website is called BarbosaComedy.com. You can see any shows I got coming up. My Instagram, RalphBarbosa03. Automotive Channel, Formula Bean, if you wanna see.

• 2:50:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, definitely. I'm gonna check that out. I'm gonna subscribe to that, for sure.

• 2:50:16Speaker 02

  Couple of beans, just street racing.

• 2:50:18Joe Rogan?

  How many videos you have up there?

• 2:50:20Speaker 02

  Uh, we got quite a few. So it was my buddy's YouTube channel before we converted it to like our channel. So it's just like tons of car footage on there. As far as, since we became a channel, it might be like.

• 2:50:32Speaker 02

  Ten fifteen videos.

• 2:50:33Joe Rogan?

  Nice. Um, what are you doing tonight?

• 2:50:37Speaker 02

  Taking off to New York.

• 2:50:38Joe Rogan?

  What time you leave?

• 2:50:39Speaker 02

  Like, they're dropping me off at the airport right after this.

• 2:50:42Joe Rogan?

  I was gonna invite you to come do the show at the mothership. There it is, Ralph Barbosa, Planet Bosa.

• 2:50:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:50:48Joe Rogan?

  Hilarious stand-up comedy. I like that Hulu's doing this. Hulu did a lot of, a lot of specials this year.

• 2:50:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:50:56Joe Rogan?

  It's awesome.

• 2:50:57Speaker 02

  I was, I was, uh, I was a little nervous about like, switching over, because I, I did my last one with Netflix and this one Hulu.

• 2:51:03Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people have Hulu. I have Hulu. Everybody has Hulu.

• 2:51:06Speaker 02

  I figured, why not try it?

• 2:51:07Joe Rogan?

  Why not? I'm, I'm very happy they're doing that.

• 2:51:09Speaker 02

  Hell yeah.

• 2:51:10Joe Rogan?

  It's just nice. It's nice that there's more options for comics.

• 2:51:13Speaker 02

  And Hulu also, thank you for the money they gave us.

• 2:51:17Joe Rogan?

  They came with the cash?

• 2:51:17Speaker 02

  Hell yeah.

• 2:51:18Joe Rogan?

  Nice. Nice. Alright, Ralph Barbosa. Appreciate you, brother. Thank you for coming in.

• 2:51:23Speaker 02

  Thanks for having me.

• 2:51:23Joe Rogan?

  Always fun to have you. Alright, bye everybody.

• 2:51:41Speaker 07

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