Pod Insights The Joe Rogan Experience #2227 - Adrienne Iapalucci About this episode Adrienne Iapalucci is a standup comic. Her Netflix special "The Dark Queen" premieres on November 12.
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0:01 Speaker 00 The Joe Rogan Experience.
0:13 Joe Rogan? That shirt.
0:14 Speaker 02 Of course.
0:14 Joe Rogan? It's pretty tight.
0:16 Speaker 02 Is it tight, you mean?
0:17 Joe Rogan? No, no, nice, like tight.
0:18 Speaker 02 Nice.
0:19 Joe Rogan? Nice.
0:21 Speaker 02 I feel like they're gonna sue me.
0:23 Joe Rogan? For the shirt?
0:24 Speaker 02 I don't know.
0:24 Joe Rogan? Do you sell it?
0:25 Speaker 02 I'm trying to.
0:26 Joe Rogan? I don't think they want to sue anybody. I think they want to keep it on the DL, especially you, because you could just go on podcasts and talk about it.
0:32 Speaker 02 Not if I'm dead. I could talk about it till I'm dead.
0:37 Joe Rogan? Let's see, if they haven't killed, there's so many, if they haven't killed malice, there's so many people that they haven't killed.
0:44 Speaker 02 I'd be a fun kill, though. They just come to the Bronx. It's like so easy to just kill me.
0:49 Joe Rogan? Right, anybody gets killed in the Bronx. Happens all the time.
0:53 Speaker 02 And nobody cares.
0:54 Joe Rogan? Yeah, probably.
0:56 Speaker 02 They don't care.
0:56 Joe Rogan? Few people would be upset, and then it would go away.
0:58 Speaker 02 My mom.
0:59 Joe Rogan? Like Epstein.
1:01 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:01 Joe Rogan? That kind of went away.
1:02 Speaker 02 It did go away.
1:03 Joe Rogan? The guy who tried to kill Trump, kind of went away.
1:06 Speaker 02 It did. Well, didn't that guy get shot, though?
1:08 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he's dead.
1:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:09 Joe Rogan? But now he's gone. Poof, gone. No one talks about it.
1:11 Speaker 02 Do you think P. Diddy is in prison waiting for the Clintons to just kill him?
1:16 Joe Rogan? Do you think?
1:17 Speaker 02 Every dad would be looking for them.
1:19 Joe Rogan? I don't think the Clintons were involved with P. Diddy, do you?
1:21 Speaker 02 No, but Epstein.
1:24 Joe Rogan? Was Epstein involved with P. Diddy?
1:26 Speaker 02 No, I just feel like these pedophile rings have to cross points, you know, at some point.
1:31 Joe Rogan? The P. Diddy thing sounds like just complete unchecked depravity. Like, I don't even think he was gay. He was just fucking guys. Maybe he's gay, but it seems like he's just depraved.
1:45 Speaker 02 Because then he would just be fucking women.
1:46 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah, for sure, at least for like 10 minutes.
1:48 Speaker 02 He's at least bi.
1:52 Joe Rogan? Well, I mean, it might just be whatever drugs are taken. Like, I don't understand it. When that whole, like, I, I think I had peripherally heard that P. Diddy had big parties, but I never heard of freak-offs or any, I never heard of that stuff until pretty recently, like, post-pandemic. I think, Jamie, when did you first hear about, like, P. Diddy parties?
2:19 Speaker 02 I mean, I would think that he, I've heard about him having big parties.
2:21 Joe Rogan? Your mic has to be off because of Carl's breathing.
2:24 Speaker 03 He's breathing pretty heavy still right now. I'm just trying to keep it down.
2:26 Speaker 02 Oh my god, he's so cute.
2:27 Joe Rogan? He's adorable. Carl and Marshall, they, they go at it.
2:31 Speaker 03 Uh, first time I heard, I don't know. I've heard of, I don't even know what rumors I would have heard. I just heard, like, you know.
2:36 Joe Rogan? But it was not-
2:37 Speaker 03 He's got crazy parties. I didn't, he had nothing.
2:38 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it was never like in the zeitgeist. It was never-
2:42 Speaker 02 It's just weird too, because he always had the white parties where you have to wear all white and I just feel like that's the worst color for body fluid.
2:49 Joe Rogan? Ew. Yeah, right? Just shit and blood.
2:51 Speaker 02 Maybe that's how he kept track of who he fucked. That person's already gotten it. That person's, that person's already covered in disgusting stuff.
3:02 Speaker 02 That's what he kept track of.
3:03 Joe Rogan? There's so many horrific accusations involving, uh, young singers, young, like, children.
3:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's disgusting. He-
3:11 Joe Rogan? It's insane.
3:12 Speaker 02 He makes R. Kelly look like a decent guy.
3:15 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
3:16 Speaker 02 It's so crazy.
3:17 Joe Rogan? It is crazy. And meanwhile, the guy was like hanging out with Oprah, hanging out with Obama.
3:24 Speaker 02 Jay-Z, everyone.
3:25 Joe Rogan? Everybody.
3:26 Speaker 02 I'm sure the Clintons were there at some point.
3:29 Joe Rogan? Maybe Bill.
3:31 Speaker 02 Bill is so nice.
3:31 Joe Rogan? I went one time.
3:33 Speaker 03 Was he?
3:34 Speaker 02 He's so ni- like, when I met them-
3:35 Joe Rogan? So charming.
3:36 Speaker 02 He is, and he's actually still kinda good-looking. Like, even for an older dude. Yeah, why not? He's still so good-looking and she's just so miserable.
3:44 Joe Rogan? Well, she was publicly humiliated and she thought that her big retribution would become president. You know, become president.
3:53 Speaker 02 Sure.
3:54 Joe Rogan? And then that would be it. All water under the bridge. I'm a strong woman. I'm running this country. And then, and America was like, nah.
4:01 Speaker 02 I mean, it doesn't matter what color you are, America does not want a woman in charge.
4:04 Joe Rogan? Well, that's not exactly true because she won the popular vote.
4:07 Speaker 02 She, I mean, not, uh, Kamala, though.
4:09 Joe Rogan? No, but Kamala was a terrible candidate. The difference between her and Hillary, it's night and day.
4:15 Speaker 02 Well, Hillary had a lot of experience too. She's been doing this for a long time.
4:18 Joe Rogan? Sure. She was the Secretary of State, and on top of that, she could answer questions.
4:23 Speaker 02 Sure.
4:24 Joe Rogan? Like, you could have a question on, with her about, like, what would we do differently if you were president about the Israel Gaza conflict?
4:32 Speaker 02 Sure.
4:32 Joe Rogan? She would have something off the top of her head. What would you do differently than Joe Biden? She wouldn't say, I can't think of a thing. She would never say that.
4:40 Speaker 02 No.
4:41 Joe Rogan? Kamala Harris is just not good.
4:43 Speaker 02 She's definitely not good at interviewing either.
4:45 Joe Rogan? No, I mean, I don't know if she's good at running things, because you'd have to be behind the scenes to see how that works.
4:51 Speaker 02 Sure.
4:52 Joe Rogan? But when it comes to, like, talking off the top of her head, what she's good at is a pre-rehearsed speech that she reads off a teleprompter.
5:01 Speaker 02 Sure, but if someone asks you a rogue question, then you have to be ready to answer it.
5:05 Joe Rogan? Yeah, when, rogue questions, like, you have to be able to say what differentiates you from Biden. You have to. That's like a, that's pretty simple.
5:15 Speaker 02 You're just like, well, I'm still alive.
5:17 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that too. That would be funny if she said that.
5:19 Speaker 02 Right, that's what she should do. If she could be funny, people would love a funny person.
5:23 Joe Rogan? I can answer questions. I can look you in the eye.
5:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:25 Joe Rogan? I remember what I'm talking about. Yes.
5:27 Speaker 02 I was surprised she didn't come on the podcast a little bit.
5:31 Joe Rogan? It seems like, and this is all reports, these are all anecdotal reports, right, but it seems like her campaign was kind of chaotic. Like, no one could make a decision. They had, I don't know how many conversations with my folks.
5:46 Speaker 02 Right.
5:47 Joe Rogan? But multiple conversations, giving different dates, different times, different this, different that, and we knew that she was going to be in Texas. So I said, "Open invitation."
5:56 Speaker 02 Right, you said you can come whenever you want.
5:58 Joe Rogan? Anytime. You pick a time, I will be here.
6:01 Speaker 02 And you would have been the best person for her to talk to, because you're not going to attack her. You would just ask her questions, but that's the problem. I don't know if she'd be able to answer those questions.
6:08 Joe Rogan? I'll ask her questions, but I think they had requirements on things that she didn't want to talk about. She didn't want to talk about marijuana legalization, which I thought was hilarious.
6:15 Speaker 02 Why?
6:16 Joe Rogan? Like, that's so, because of her prosecuting record.
6:19 Speaker 02 Oh, well, I mean, that is like, that was her old job, though.
6:22 Joe Rogan? Yeah, and, you know, she put a lot of people in jail for weed. Fifteen hundred, apparently.
6:28 Speaker 02 It's not really that many, though, fifteen hundred.
6:30 Joe Rogan? Tell those guys, those fifteen hundred together in a room. No.
6:34 Speaker 02 Oh, okay. Then they're fine now.
6:36 Joe Rogan? Well-
6:37 Speaker 02 Prison really builds character. You go in there and you really figure out what kind of person you are.
6:44 Joe Rogan? I bet it does, yeah. But when you are held past your release date to fight wildfires for the state because Kamala Harris wants you to do that.
6:53 Speaker 02 Sure.
6:53 Joe Rogan? With the swipe of my pen.
6:55 Speaker 02 Right, you guys are, I mean, it's not like the worst idea.
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9:47 Speaker 02 So just clean up the wildfires?
9:49 Joe Rogan? Well, you should probably pay people for all work.
9:52 Speaker 02 Sure.
9:52 Joe Rogan? You know, even prisoners.
9:53 Speaker 02 But that's just free.
9:56 Joe Rogan? I got a problem with all that. I mean, I have a problem with slave labor in prison because it's essentially mandated.
10:03 Speaker 02 Right.
10:03 Joe Rogan? You have to have a job in some prisons.
10:06 Speaker 02 But I mean, what else are you gonna do in prison?
10:07 Joe Rogan? Read books, do pushups.
10:09 Speaker 02 Okay, but at some point, I'm gonna...
10:10 Joe Rogan? Not have someone tell you what to do.
10:11 Speaker 02 If I'm gonna want to do hair, I'm gonna want to cook at some point. Like, you just do need a routine, otherwise the time... How many books can you read every single day?
10:19 Joe Rogan? That's true. That's true. Yeah. How many yoga classes can you take?
10:22 Speaker 02 You just need a schedule, kind of, just to like, I don't know, that just helps your day go by. Like, even if you hated it, you still need... Like, when I was on unemployment for a period, I'm like, I'm actually very bored. You know what I mean? Like, you like it for a couple of days, but you need that routine to kind of like, I don't know, if I was in prison, I'd want a job.
10:38 Joe Rogan? This is my fear when it comes to automation, AI, and then ultimately, I think everyone's gonna have to have universal basic income. I think all countries are gonna have to have it. I think the United States is gonna have to have it, too. And people need a purpose. They need a thing.
10:55 Speaker 02 For sure.
10:56 Joe Rogan? They need an identity. And a lot of people identify with whatever their job is. You know, they find, they take pride in it. It means something to them to show up at work and have people say they do a great job. And you're very valuable to the company and you're, you know, the customers like you. And all that stuff is really good for people. It's good for self-esteem. It's good for giving you a purpose. If, if universal basic income is a thing, which I think it's going to have to be a thing. It's gonna be real weird psychologically for people to adjust to that.
11:24 Speaker 02 I think there'd probably be a lot of riots. Like, I don't know, what else would you do?
11:28 Joe Rogan? Just riot with government money?
11:31 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was thinking Trump might not win and there was gonna be a bunch of riots. And I would be able to just get like a free computer. Like, I was kinda hoping for that.
11:38 Joe Rogan? Well, you know, you can buy a computer, Adrian.
11:40 Speaker 02 No, I want it for free.
11:42 Joe Rogan? Successful comedian.
11:42 Speaker 02 Listen, a free computer is better than a computer you have to pay for.
11:45 Joe Rogan? Is it?
11:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
11:46 Joe Rogan? Wouldn't you feel guilty at all?
11:47 Speaker 02 No, if they're rioting, everything's for free. That's the rule.
11:53 Joe Rogan? That was the rule during George Floyd.
11:54 Speaker 02 But that's what I'm saying. During Black Lives Matter, I lived by a CVS that was like getting broken into all the time. I had to have like shampoo and conditioner for years.
12:00 Joe Rogan? Did you go in there?
12:01 Speaker 02 Yeah, why not? I was in there when it was happening. I was like, well...
12:04 Joe Rogan? You're gonna get arrested. Shh, don't say that.
12:06 Speaker 02 No.
12:07 Joe Rogan? These are all jokes, right?
12:08 Speaker 02 Wink, they're all jokes.
12:09 Joe Rogan? Wink is a lot.
12:10 Speaker 02 Listen, I was just supporting Black Lives Matter and that's how you do it.
12:12 Joe Rogan? That's how you do it. You get shampoo for free.
12:14 Speaker 02 Shampoo and conditioner.
12:15 Joe Rogan? Yeah. The most racist thing I ever saw was a CVS that had everything locked up except sunscreen.
12:21 Speaker 02 I mean, that's pretty much how it is in every CVS.
12:26 Speaker 02 And white people don't buy sunscreen because we wanna be dark. So no one's stealing it or buying it.
12:32 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Good, good call. The, well, they do if they're worried about cancer. If you're one of those people, it puts it everywhere all over your face. Meanwhile, you're putting toxic chemicals all over your face.
12:43 Speaker 02 People do that and they're like smoking cigarettes. It's like, what are you doing? Just get cancer.
12:47 Joe Rogan? Well, I was reading this thing where they were talking about that, see if you can find this... So what this person was saying was that people who spend less time in the sun are more likely to get deadly skin cancer.
13:04 Speaker 02 Is it because your body's not used to it?
13:06 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you get cooked. You know, your body doesn't have any melanin, so you go out there and you get like fucking burnt to death and your body develops cancers. But also, you're not, you don't have vitamin D. So vitamin D is like a critical hormone and it protects you from a lot of things. It's, it's crucial for your immune system. It's crucial for a lot of different functions.
13:27 Speaker 02 It's also interesting because one time we were at the cellar and Louis kept telling me that I needed vitamin D because I'm so white and I was just like, vitamin, is that a real thing? It just sounds like dick.
13:40 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you need vitamin D.
13:42 Speaker 02 I was like, is that like a real thing?
13:43 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you're so white, you need some vitamin D.
13:46 Speaker 02 So you need to get fucked by somebody that's gonna help you.
13:48 Joe Rogan? That's the only thing that's gonna help you.
13:49 Speaker 02 That's only, that's gonna keep me alive?
13:51 Joe Rogan? Imagine if that was true. Imagine if like the only way you can maintain health is to get fucked?
13:57 Speaker 02 I mean, it makes sense. People that are homeless are just like fingering themselves all the time. There must be something to it.
14:03 Joe Rogan? I think they're mentally ill.
14:04 Speaker 02 Sure, but they also are like, I want to stay alive. I want to prolong this homelessness.
14:11 Speaker 02 Keep me alive as long as we can.
14:13 Joe Rogan? There's, there's a book I read, Fingering Yourself for Health.
14:15 Speaker 02 I mean, all of the homeless people on Sixth Street are just like fingering themselves constantly.
14:19 Joe Rogan? Yeah, there's a lot of that, that kind of activity.
14:21 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:21 Joe Rogan? With homeless, oh, I think they just give up on shame, on everything and they just...
14:25 Speaker 02 I think you're out of your mind. You have to be out of your mind. Where you're like, who cares?
14:29 Joe Rogan? There's this poor lady on Sixth Street. There's a gas station that I only go to if everything's gone totally wrong and I need gas for sure.
14:36 Speaker 02 You just run out of it.
14:38 Joe Rogan? But you're like, you're there, you get out of your car, you're ready to fight people. It's a sketchy gas station.
14:42 Speaker 02 Oh, I guess.
14:43 Joe Rogan? And there's this poor lady who, her head, instead of being like here, her head is like... It's like it's broken, her neck is broken.
14:53 Speaker 02 Okay.
14:53 Joe Rogan? And so her head is like down here. And she has to look at you like this. She can't lift her chin off of her sternum. Like literally down like this and she's just a bag of bones, just barely alive.
15:07 Speaker 02 Like, okay, obviously, we're not gonna help homeless people, like, there's no money in helping poor people. Like, let's give them all fentanyl, clean up the streets, do the kindest thing we can for them.
15:17 Joe Rogan? Ode them?
15:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, if I'm on the street for longer than a week, please kill me, it's not going well.
15:22 Joe Rogan? Some people have recovered, some people have gotten their shit together.
15:25 Speaker 02 How many?
15:25 Joe Rogan? I don't know.
15:27 Speaker 02 How many CEOs were like, I was on the street for years, and then I got some vitamin D, I turned.
15:33 Joe Rogan? Well, how many CEOs enjoy life? That's the real question. I, just because something's difficult to do, doesn't mean it's good to do, right?
15:42 Speaker 02 Sure.
15:43 Joe Rogan? Like, some people think that becoming extremely wealthy and running a major corporation, because it's difficult to do, that's something you should aspire to. But those guys all die young, they all have heart attacks, strokes.
15:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's a very high-stress position.
15:57 Joe Rogan? Insanely high-stress, and the hours are insane, and you're probably fucking miserable, other than the time you're doing coke and banging strippers.
16:05 Speaker 02 Right. I think I would like the rich part, and then I would just do something with, like, animals.
16:10 Joe Rogan? Oh.
16:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, I love animals.
16:12 Joe Rogan? I know you do.
16:12 Speaker 02 People forget, but like.
16:14 Joe Rogan? Well, I brought Marshall just for you.
16:15 Speaker 02 I mean, Marshall is so beautiful, like, if I ever go bald, I told you, I want, like, a wig. I don't know how white women are now, just wearing Golden Retrievers wigs, because it's beautiful, his hair.
16:25 Joe Rogan? But it would stink when it gets wet.
16:27 Speaker 02 I mean, everyone thinks white people smell anyway, but who gives a shit? You remember the first time you heard that black people thought white people smell like dogs? You're like, we love dogs.
16:36 Joe Rogan? I have never heard that.
16:37 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
16:38 Joe Rogan? Really?
16:38 Speaker 02 They always think we smell like dogs. It's like, that's, try hurting my feelings.
16:42 Joe Rogan? Well, I guess if you're around dogs, I think human beings smell if they don't wash, that's all it is. Like, I don't think there's a difference in the smell of black people and white people. And this is coming from someone who does jujitsu.
16:55 Speaker 02 Sure, maybe not.
16:56 Joe Rogan? So I smell people like that close when their chest pressed up against my face. I've never noticed a difference in human odor.
17:04 Speaker 02 All I know is black people think white people smell like dogs, wet dogs when they get wet.
17:07 Joe Rogan? Maybe that's just like a fun thing to say.
17:10 Speaker 02 I think it's more than one black person saying it.
17:12 Joe Rogan? For real?
17:12 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:13 Joe Rogan? I've never hea- Jamie, you ever heard that? Jimmy never heard it.
17:16 Speaker 02 Well, I hang out with a lot of black people. Yeah.
17:18 Joe Rogan? Weird.
17:19 Speaker 02 I'm like, that doesn't hurt my feelings. I love dogs.
17:21 Joe Rogan? Yeah, dogs are great.
17:22 Speaker 02 They're amazing.
17:23 Joe Rogan? If you're gonna smell like an animal, I mean, that's not the worst one to smell like. Cats are kinda crazy, cuz they never smell. And they don't even take showers. They just clean themselves.
17:31 Speaker 02 No, but if you get like one of those hairless ones, you have to like clean their nails and their skin and stuff.
17:36 Joe Rogan? The hairless ones are fucking weird.
17:37 Speaker 02 They are, but I like them.
17:39 Joe Rogan? Do white people really smell like wet dogs to black people? The smell comes from their follicles when they get wet. Hair follicles secrete an oil that spreads some- spreads somewhat when wet and a small amount of water gets in. Okay. Interesting.
17:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:56 Joe Rogan? And that's from, uh, Cora. It's hilarious.
17:59 Speaker 02 That sounds like a white person.
18:00 Joe Rogan? But that's hilarious. Go back up to that. Cora is one of those answer websites, right?
18:07 Speaker 02 Oh, I thought Cora like a black lady. See, you're a-
18:09 Joe Rogan? Uh, gee.
18:11 Speaker 03 Look at all the Reddit posts that are- they say-
18:12 Joe Rogan? I understand the Reddit posts, but here's my point. Cora is like one of those, like, you can ask it, like, how do you make a nuclear bomb?
18:19 Speaker 02 Sure.
18:20 Joe Rogan? Like, that kinda stuff. And imagine if it said, "Do black people really smell like dogs?"
18:26 Speaker 02 What do black people smell like when they're wet?
18:28 Joe Rogan? I don't think they smell any different than anybody, but the point is, you could never have that question on a question web page.
18:34 Speaker 02 You can't? They'll take it off?
18:36 Joe Rogan? No fucking chance. But you could have it about white people.
18:39 Speaker 02 Could you ask it what Indian people smell like?
18:42 Joe Rogan? I don't think you should. Cuz they'd have a record-
18:46 Speaker 02 But nobody cares about Indian people at all.
18:48 Joe Rogan? Indian people do.
18:49 Speaker 02 Yeah, but you ever see what they're doing in India?
18:51 Joe Rogan? Vivek Ramaswamy becomes president, you're gonna have a real issue with this.
18:54 Speaker 02 I don't even know who that is.
18:55 Joe Rogan? Really?
18:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:56 Joe Rogan? You don't know who Vivek is?
18:57 Speaker 02 I try not to pay attention to what's going on.
18:59 Joe Rogan? Good for you.
19:00 Speaker 02 I really don't know anything.
19:01 Joe Rogan? Good for you. That's so healthy.
19:03 Speaker 02 I know, like, very little.
19:05 Joe Rogan? If you can exist like that, it's a good way to be. You know, there's plenty of people in this world that are paying attention.
19:11 Speaker 02 I know. I'm not one of them, though.
19:14 Joe Rogan? I don't have a problem with that. That's Ari Shaver too.
19:16 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's why we're good buddies.
19:18 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he has no idea what's happening.
19:20 Speaker 02 He's, I mean.
19:22 Joe Rogan? You talk to him about laws being passed, he's like, "What? That's not real."
19:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, Ari's the best. He's like, Ari's, but he's also so autistic, which is why, like, him even producing my special was so good because he's so, like, focused and he knows exactly what to do.
19:37 Joe Rogan? Very focused. Love stand-up as an art form.
19:40 Speaker 02 Love stand-up. He's the best at, like, not killing seats for the show. He is the best person for that.
19:46 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah. Yeah, he knows how important that is. Yeah. His special that he did was, the Jew special was so ridiculous because they had to keep those candles lit and so they had to constantly light them.
19:58 Speaker 02 I was there for it. I opened for it. It was so hot and he taped it in June. It was so hot. I was on stage, I did like fifteen minutes, I'm like, "Oh, it's really hot in here."
20:08 Joe Rogan? Boy, there's a fire behind you.
20:09 Speaker 02 I know.
20:10 Joe Rogan? You think about all those candles? How much fire is that? That's a lot of fire.
20:14 Speaker 02 It's crazy. It was a crazy amount.
20:16 Joe Rogan? Did they have, like, fire extinguishers standing by in case some shit went sideways?
20:19 Speaker 02 Probably. I'm sure there was some, like, there might have been a fire marshal they had to hire just to make sure.
20:24 Joe Rogan? Probably.
20:25 Speaker 02 But even if the whole place goes on fire, what's he gonna do? He's like, "Well, there's a fire."
20:29 Joe Rogan? What's he gonna do? He's gonna run away.
20:30 Speaker 02 Right, so what is he gonna do? Like, I mean, you would need so many, uh, fire extinguishers.
20:35 Joe Rogan? No, they're little tiny fires. They're a bunch of little itty-bitty fires. There's not like one major, eh, all-consuming fire.
20:43 Speaker 02 What if I get to hold of, like, eh, the curtain?
20:46 Joe Rogan? Eh. If you have fire extinguishers, how far back was the curtain from that? Was there a curtain at all?
20:51 Speaker 02 I'm pretty sure there's a curtain. I'm pretty sure there's a curtain, yeah. It, I mean, it looks beautiful, though.
20:55 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's not as easy to light things on fire as you'd think. And if fire marshals are standing by with a fire extinguisher, they put that shit out real quick. And that would actually be kinda funny.
21:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
21:04 Joe Rogan? They'd probably keep that on the show.
21:05 Speaker 02 That'd be fun, if there was a fire.
21:08 Joe Rogan? Put your fucking candles on stage.
21:10 Speaker 02 That'd be amazing.
21:11 Joe Rogan? Well, he was running that special for, forever, for a long time. And then, you know, the whole Kobe thing happened and he stopped and then he came back.
21:21 Speaker 02 What's crazy, I was with him in, um, I guess it was Charlotte when the whole Kobe thing happened and I, he was sick. I was like, "Oh, just, we were on the road." I was like, "Just go to sleep." And then I wake up and I'm like, "What did you do?"
21:35 Speaker 02 I was like, you're sick, you're supposed to go to sleep. And then I was like, oh, Ari. And then the funniest part is people were like, we're gonna kick your ass if you're ever in North Carolina. And he's like, I'm there. They're like, all right, well, if you come to where I'm at, we're gonna kick your ass.
21:49 Joe Rogan? Well, he was really into making fun of people when they died because everybody was like really kind to people when they die. And, and he was always like, fuck them. And some of them were really funny. The Kobe one was not. But some of them were really funny.
22:03 Speaker 02 Sure. I also don't think he knew, like, he didn't know, like, the daughter was there. Like, he was just...
22:08 Joe Rogan? Right.
22:08 Speaker 02 He was just doing it about Kobe.
22:11 Joe Rogan? Jimmy, your microphone is rubbing. Oh, um, yeah, I, but just, he doesn't do that anymore, thank God.
22:20 Speaker 02 What's funny is the Uber came to pick us up the next day and it's like, just like a black dude picking us up. And he's like, I gotta go to the bathroom. He takes us to like, a transient bus station.
22:29 Joe Rogan? The Uber guy?
22:30 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:31 Joe Rogan? Oh, God.
22:32 Speaker 02 And I'm like, does this guy know about... I'm like, are we gonna get murdered? The guy leaves for like 20, 30 minutes to take a shit.
22:38 Joe Rogan? No way.
22:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, before we're going to like the airport.
22:41 Joe Rogan? No way.
22:42 Speaker 02 He did. And I was like, this is crazy.
22:44 Joe Rogan? I would've ordered a second Uber to pick me up where the first Uber was.
22:47 Speaker 02 No, we were ready to get murdered.
22:48 Joe Rogan? You were ready?
22:49 Speaker 02 We were just sitting there.
22:50 Joe Rogan? The time is now. If this is my fate.
22:53 Speaker 02 This is my fate, we're dying right now.
22:54 Joe Rogan? Imagine if you die because Ari Shaffir decides... First of all, for the longest time, Ari realized that he could not have a phone because he would be addicted to social media and it was terrible for his mental health.
23:06 Speaker 02 And that's what happened.
23:07 Joe Rogan? And so he had a flip phone forever.
23:09 Speaker 02 Oh, I know.
23:10 Joe Rogan? And I was like, good for you. Like, David Tell still has a flip phone.
23:13 Speaker 02 He does.
23:13 Joe Rogan? And it's brilliant. Like, the people that do it, Sebastian Younger, he came in here, he still has a flip phone. There's people that, that rock a flip phone.
23:21 Speaker 02 If he would've not had that flip phone, he wouldn't have done the Kobe stuff.
23:24 Joe Rogan? Oh, 100%. But I think things like that ultimately are good.
23:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, he's not, he doesn't regret it. If you talk to him.
23:32 Joe Rogan? He shouldn't have done it, right? But he, now he knows he shouldn't have done it and that's just another layer of experience in life and just overcoming this horrific cancellation.
23:42 Speaker 02 Should he not have done it, though?
23:45 Joe Rogan? In hindsight? Yeah, I think he's probably, it's probably not a good thing to do. To mock a guy and his daughter dying.
23:52 Speaker 02 But he didn't mock the daughter, he just mocked him.
23:54 Joe Rogan? True, yeah.
23:57 Speaker 02 So, I asked him, I'm like, "Do you regret doing it?" He's like, "No."
24:00 Joe Rogan? Of course he's.
24:01 Speaker 02 And nobody, nobody really, like, people were upset, that's the whole thing with cancellations, people are upset for like, two, three days and then they forget.
24:06 Joe Rogan? Well, especially in this new cycle. This new cycle is so crazy. It's just, no matter what happens, there's always something right around the corner that just covers it up.
24:15 Speaker 02 Just a new thing to get upset about.
24:17 Joe Rogan? Another wave comes in and you no longer, it fades. Whatever it is.
24:22 Speaker 02 Bridges, let me know, think about the FEMA person who got fired, because if you had a Trump, yeah, if you had like a Trump thing on your...
24:29 Joe Rogan? Can you imagine that?
24:30 Speaker 02 I know, but it's like, if you have any signs, that means your house didn't get hit hard by a hurricane.
24:36 Joe Rogan? No.
24:37 Speaker 02 Come on.
24:38 Joe Rogan? No, because you could have a Biden sign. Look, it doesn't matter.
24:40 Speaker 02 Right, any sign, but that's what I'm saying, if you have any sign...
24:43 Joe Rogan? Depends on how the sign was secured. Depends entirely on how the sign was secured.
24:45 Speaker 02 If your roof came off, you think that sign's gonna be there?
24:47 Joe Rogan? Bottom line is, that's not what she was saying. What she was saying is avoid all houses that have a Trump sign. You cannot do that.
24:55 Speaker 02 Oh, I know, but I'm just saying, what's funny to me is like, if you have a sign and it didn't lift off the ground, like, how hard was your house hit?
25:03 Joe Rogan? Your house could have been completely flooded, you have no power, no electricity, no running water. Yeah.
25:08 Speaker 02 I guess.
25:09 Joe Rogan? Your house needs to be drained.
25:12 Joe Rogan? Like, it's federal emergency management, it's not supposed to be federal emergency management for whoever this one person who's in charge with ideologically agrees with.
25:21 Speaker 02 Absolutely, I don't, I'm, I was making a joke, like, if you have any sign there and it survived a hurricane, like, your house is probably fine.
25:26 Joe Rogan? Right.
25:26 Speaker 02 Also, I want FEMA funds to go to the Fire Festival. Like, that's all our money should be going through, is white guys trying to run a festival who fail.
25:35 Joe Rogan? Do you know that guy's doing another one?
25:36 Speaker 02 I know, is it a, it's not a Fire Festival, is it?
25:39 Joe Rogan? I think he's calling it Fire Festival 2. Is he? Yeah, and he's charging like a million dollars a ticket? His move is to just charge an insane amount of money and see how fucking stupid some people are?
25:54 Speaker 02 I mean, I love that.
25:56 Joe Rogan? The whole thing was nuts. It's like, one dude, it's always like some guy who you think could be selling Bitcoin or a pyramid scheme and now he's decided to put on a music festival.
26:07 Speaker 02 Because he wants to be cool. You know what I mean?
26:09 Joe Rogan? Wants to party with people.
26:10 Speaker 02 He wants to party with people.
26:12 Joe Rogan? But didn't he get like famous people to go?
26:15 Speaker 02 I think a lot of people pulled out.
26:18 Joe Rogan? At the last minute?
26:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
26:19 Joe Rogan? Probably when they heard.
26:21 Speaker 02 No, but who was the guy that was like, was like, uh, not Jadakiss?
26:24 Joe Rogan? Ja Rule?
26:25 Speaker 02 Ja Rule was doing it with him. I mean, if you have Ja Rule on anything, it's not gonna be well.
26:30 Joe Rogan? Was Ja Rule one of the organizers?
26:32 Speaker 02 He, I think he was just like one of the faces of it. I don't know if he put money in it or not.
26:36 Joe Rogan? Right, like he gave him a piece of it or something like that?
26:39 Speaker 02 I don't know. He was there. They brought all these influencers out and they, I mean, listen, if he, if he pulled it off, it would have been pretty good. I mean, he did have everyone post at the same time, like, what was it, that orange box or something? So like everyone saw it and they were like, oh, what's this? And then all these like rich kids are there and they're like crying. I mean, honestly, the Fire Festival was for all of us. That's what it was.
27:01 Joe Rogan? Right.
27:02 Speaker 02 For all of us to see all these kids crying in these FEMA tents and there's just, it was amazing.
27:09 Speaker 02 It was amazing.
27:10 Joe Rogan? See if you can find his videos where he's trying to promote Fire Festival 2. So he's walking down the street of New York City saying that all, so many tickets are already sold and if you want to-
27:20 Speaker 02 I think they sold a lot of tickets.
27:21 Speaker 03 I'm looking to buy one and I can't find the website to buy them. Not that I want to go, I just want to see-
27:25 Joe Rogan? Well, it might not even be real. He might be completely insane at this point.
27:28 Speaker 03 There's a lot of press about it.
27:30 Joe Rogan? About Fire Festival 2?
27:31 Speaker 03 Yeah, posted on multiple websites. This was all happening, it could have just been a press release from, you know-
27:36 Speaker 02 Where, where is Fire Festival 2 gonna be?
27:38 Speaker 03 Somewhere in Mexico on April 25th through 28th.
27:41 Speaker 02 Oh my god, I hope the cartel finds out.
27:42 Joe Rogan? This year?
27:43 Speaker 03 No, coming up, yeah.
27:44 Joe Rogan? This year coming up, yeah. Wow. Who the fuck is gonna-
27:50 Speaker 02 Who's going to Mexico for a fucking Fire Festival? That's crazy.
27:55 Speaker 02 Just go to Cancun, it's so much closer.
27:57 Joe Rogan? Yeah, yeah.
27:58 Speaker 02 Fire Festival.
27:59 Joe Rogan? Go to Puerto Vallarta. You don't have to go to Fire Festival. What's the place that all the kids go to? Tulum. They love to party in Tulum.
28:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, have it, have it there.
28:08 Joe Rogan? I don't know why Tulum. That's not, that's like one of the major places where they have those Aztec ruins, I think, or Mayan ruins. I don't know why Tulum is like the big, it's like where like-
28:20 Speaker 02 Beautiful.
28:21 Joe Rogan? Hippies and psychedelic people go, they go to Tulum. They do a lot of Instagram posts.
28:26 Speaker 02 I mean, that's all, everything's about an Instagram post.
28:29 Joe Rogan? I was watching this lady and her boyfriend the other day, we were walking in the street and they had basically taken up the entire street. Because the girl was sitting on this like marble bench and she was posing and you couldn't walk in between the two of them and he was like 12 feet away from her. So there was like, like, what is this?
28:45 Speaker 02 You're just stopping.
28:46 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
28:46 Speaker 02 I would have went right through them.
28:47 Joe Rogan? And it was a long photo shoot, like it went on for a couple of minutes. It was fucking stupid as shit. She kept changing her, her pose and her face and the angle that he photographed her at. I wanted to take his phone away, like, hey fuckhead, get out of the way.
29:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, they do that. I was in CVS and they, they were doing a sketch and everyone was like, you gotta get out of here.
29:06 Joe Rogan? A sketch in CVS?
29:07 Speaker 02 There's a bunch of people with cameras and they were trying to do a sketch and they were screaming and this girl was like, this girl behind the counter is a nice girl and she's also like a little bit slow, so she's trying to get these people out of there. It's just like chaos.
29:21 Speaker 02 I get why people steal in CVS because nobody helps you and you're like, I will just steal. It's just, you're better off stealing than waiting there for somebody to come help you. It's just a nightmare.
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31:14 Speaker 02 An eye wound?
31:14 Joe Rogan? Odd, some odd, like something like their head looks oddly shaping, like they got hit with a brick, like something off.
31:20 Speaker 02 Well, that's where veterans go to work. They send you back.
31:23 Joe Rogan? To CVS? Really?
31:25 Speaker 02 I don't know.
31:25 Joe Rogan? No, you're just making that up?
31:27 Speaker 02 I make a lot of stuff up.
31:28 Joe Rogan? There's so many of these fucking sketches and pranks that people are doing now on YouTube. It's like, everybody, if you look at kids today, like they did some sort of a survey where they asked kids, like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And most of them said famous.
31:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, if you get famous, opening like unboxing videos. Like, I mean, if you could do that, why wouldn't you want to do that? I mean, I'd have a kid just to see if they could do that.
31:55 Joe Rogan? Well, you know that kid on TikTok, Keith Lee? Do you know who he is? He just reviews food?
31:59 Speaker 02 No.
31:59 Joe Rogan? With a sort of a monotone voice? He's actually brothers with a, he was an MMA fighter himself. And he's brothers with Kevin Lee, who was a top UFC contender at one point in time. And he just does these like, sort of monotone videos where he reviews food.
32:14 Speaker 02 Is he like?
32:15 Joe Rogan? Super, super popular.
32:16 Speaker 02 Wow.
32:17 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Like how many?
32:18 Speaker 02 It's like, why even go to school if you could just unbox a video?
32:21 Joe Rogan? One of a kind study shows that 27 million paid creators operating in the US. 11.6 billion of them working full-time as creators. Wow.
32:31 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, it's like-
32:32 Joe Rogan? Is that a number one job?
32:33 Speaker 02 If you're from another country and you're like, "Why don't we just bomb America?"
32:37 Joe Rogan? Wait, that might be-
32:39 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
32:40 Joe Rogan? Isn't the number one job driving vehicles in the United States? Which is one of the things they're really worried about when it comes to automation, because that's one of the first jobs that's gonna go.
32:49 Speaker 02 I've seen those cars where they're operating, there's no one operating them and they're just driving.
32:52 Joe Rogan? There you go. They're weird. Okay, number one occupation, retail salesperson is 3 million. Home and health personal care is 3 million as well. Three, both of them are 3,700,000. General and operations managers, 3,500,000. Fast food counter workers, 3,400,000. Showmall?
33:11 Speaker 02 What's interesting is-
33:12 Joe Rogan? 16 more rows?
33:12 Speaker 02 The retail and the home health aides, they're the same people doing both jobs because they can't afford to live. Just one job.
33:19 Joe Rogan? So drivers isn't even in the top 10. That's interesting. I thought it was like number one of the top ones. So cooks is 2,700,000 and that's number 10. Stalkers, order fillers, 2,800,000.
33:32 Joe Rogan? Um, and so influencers was what, 1 million? That's what it was? 1-
33:36 Speaker 03 11.
33:37 Joe Rogan? 1 point, 11, oh 11? Wait a minute, so that's more than that?
33:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
33:40 Joe Rogan? So what the fuck? So go back to that chart again? 11.6.
33:45 Speaker 03 That's like the top four combined almost.
33:48 Joe Rogan? That's crazy.
33:49 Speaker 03 Yep.
33:50 Joe Rogan? So it's the most common job? So why is it saying retail salesperson? It's like literally three times more common than that.
33:57 Speaker 03 Well, I have to then dig into where they're getting their data from, I guess, but-
34:00 Joe Rogan? Wow.
34:02 Speaker 03 See, it says retail has been the most common job in the US since 1997.
34:06 Joe Rogan? Not anymore, bitches.
34:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
34:08 Joe Rogan? That's crazy. So that means that influencer or content creator, whatever the fuck you want to call people, that's me too, I guess. With, that's the number one job. Number, podcasting. I used to have a joke back when it was just reality shows, that, um, there's gonna be a reality show about a cameraman on a reality show.
34:27 Speaker 02 Somebody's filming him?
34:28 Joe Rogan? It's someone's filming the cameraman on a reality, what a crazy job. "You are a cameraman on a reality show." And then someone's gonna say, "But who's the cameraman behind the-" Cameraman.
34:38 Speaker 02 Right.
34:38 Joe Rogan? And then it's gonna be like two mirrors facing each other with the United States is gonna be filled with just camera people filming other camera people.
34:46 Speaker 02 I'm into it.
34:47 Joe Rogan? It was a joke, but it's kind of true now. Like once, cause I, back when I said this, this is like, you know, two thousand something when I was on Fear Factor. There was no social media stars. It didn't exist. And social media itself didn't exist, but now that it does, now that you see the impact that it has and how many people are making a living as air quotes, content creators. It's kind of fucking crazy.
35:12 Speaker 02 It's incredible.
35:13 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's a totally new market that emerged out of nowhere. And according to that thing at least, it's the number one job in the country.
35:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. People are making a ton of money off of it. That's why people are like filming every single thing that they do. And just putting it on Instagram or TikTok.
35:33 Joe Rogan? Well, they learn from the Kardashians that it doesn't even have to be interesting.
35:36 Speaker 02 No, it doesn't.
35:37 Joe Rogan? You just have to have a new scene every five seconds.
35:40 Speaker 02 And also if it's like something crazy, if somebody's fighting, like a fight.
35:43 Joe Rogan? That helps.
35:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:44 Joe Rogan? But it doesn't even, that doesn't even matter. All you have to do is just constantly switch angles. Do you ever watch a reality show? The, the, the scenes constantly change.
35:55 Speaker 02 Just switching.
35:55 Joe Rogan? My wife watches that stupid fucking Kardashian show.
35:58 Speaker 02 I'll watch it too, but sometimes it's so monotone. Like it's just one monotone person to another monotone person.
36:03 Joe Rogan? She just likes the clothes and the, this.
36:06 Speaker 02 I mean, listen, I've watched the Kardashians. I get it.
36:09 Joe Rogan? But the point is, every like five seconds, the camera changes angles. You never have like what, like the, like a podcast.
36:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
36:18 Joe Rogan? It's just you, me. The only thing that changes is your cameras on when you're talking, my cameras on when we're talking. Sometimes it's both, both of us talking on camera.
36:25 Speaker 02 I mean, I wish Kris Jenner was my mother. I mean, the way she's made these kids so famous, like, could you imagine telling your kid to fucking have a sex scene and then release it?
36:36 Joe Rogan? Do you think that she did that?
36:38 Speaker 02 Yeah, she absolutely did that.
36:39 Joe Rogan? For sure?
36:40 Speaker 02 I think so.
36:40 Joe Rogan? Really?
36:41 Speaker 02 I'm pretty sure.
36:42 Joe Rogan? Hmm. I reserve judgment.
36:45 Speaker 02 I think she did, and I think it was the smartest thing she could have done for all their careers.
36:49 Joe Rogan? Definitely worked.
36:50 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
36:52 Joe Rogan? And then, everybody has sex.
36:54 Speaker 02 Right.
36:54 Joe Rogan? You wanna watch, go watch.
36:55 Speaker 02 Go watch it.
36:56 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
36:57 Speaker 02 Like, you would never think a mom would put that out there, but it was, like, pretty brilliant. My mom would never do something like that for me.
37:03 Joe Rogan? Well, you know, that, she's a little unconventional.
37:06 Speaker 02 Sure. Yeah, it takes an unconventional woman to, like, release your kid's sex tape.
37:12 Joe Rogan? She kinda turned her husband into a woman, and basically made the entire clan super rich.
37:18 Speaker 02 Well, even Rob is rich.
37:19 Joe Rogan? Super rich.
37:19 Speaker 02 They're all rich.
37:20 Joe Rogan? Crazy rich. Yeah, for no reason. Like, not-
37:24 Speaker 02 Because of that sex tape.
37:25 Joe Rogan? Right, but like, that is kind of the seed.
37:27 Speaker 02 It is.
37:28 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
37:29 Speaker 02 Ray J was more famous than Kim when they did that.
37:32 Joe Rogan? Right.
37:33 Speaker 02 And now Ray J's like, nowhere.
37:34 Joe Rogan? I know, that sucks.
37:36 Speaker 02 Like, if his mother also was on top of it with Kris, he could have been a bigger star too. Nobody gives a shit about Ray J anymore.
37:42 Joe Rogan? That's crazy that he didn't capitalize on that.
37:45 Speaker 02 Because his mom wasn't Kris Jenner.
37:47 Joe Rogan? Right, but why didn't he figure out a way? Because like, what is-
37:50 Speaker 02 I don't know.
37:51 Joe Rogan? What's unique about her way of thinking?
37:54 Speaker 02 I think it's just, uh, Kim is very pretty.
37:58 Joe Rogan? That helps. He's a good-looking guy, though.
37:59 Speaker 02 He is a good-looking guy.
38:01 Joe Rogan? Got a big dick, right?
38:02 Speaker 02 He, I assume, you know, I never saw the video.
38:05 Joe Rogan? How dare you lie to me like that, right to my face.
38:07 Speaker 02 That he has a big dick?
38:08 Joe Rogan? No, that you never saw the video.
38:09 Speaker 02 I didn't. I saw the video, but I didn't see his dick in it.
38:12 Joe Rogan? What did you see?
38:13 Speaker 02 I think I saw it too late. I seen it years later. I seen it years later. I checked it out too late when the dick wasn't in it.
38:19 Joe Rogan? What? The dick was removed eventually?
38:21 Speaker 02 I think the dick was eventually removed. I don't know. I've been searching for it pretty hard.
38:26 Joe Rogan? I bet Jamie can find it right now on Pornhub.
38:28 Speaker 02 Let's see.
38:28 Joe Rogan? Can you find it?
38:29 Speaker 03 Pornhub's blocked in Texas, Joe.
38:31 Joe Rogan? Oh, no. Well, you know what?
38:33 Speaker 02 Why is it blocked in Texas?
38:34 Joe Rogan? You wanna have free guns.
38:38 Speaker 02 Why can't, why is it blocked in Texas?
38:40 Joe Rogan? It's not blocked. It's not blocked. You just have to have proof that you're 18.
38:44 Speaker 02 How do you prove that? With your license?
38:46 Joe Rogan? Upload, yeah.
38:47 Speaker 02 You have Kris Jenner say that you're over 18?
38:51 Joe Rogan? You have to have proof.
38:53 Speaker 02 Okay, I guess. Well, I'm gonna go home and search it.
38:57 Joe Rogan? Well,
39:00 Joe Rogan? porn addiction for kids is a real thing.
39:02 Speaker 02 I dated a guy that had porn addiction.
39:04 Joe Rogan? Yeah? What happened?
39:06 Speaker 02 I mean, we broke up eventually. He was also a little autistic. And then he went to see a sex therapist and I think they were fucking, so I guess she fixed it.
39:14 Joe Rogan? What? He fucked his sex therapist?
39:16 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:16 Joe Rogan? Jesus Christ. For real?
39:18 Speaker 02 I mean, that's what he told me. I don't think he was like lying about it.
39:21 Joe Rogan? What a bitch.
39:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, but you have to like, it's like any other addiction, you have to like stop doing it. I didn't even know he had it.
39:27 Joe Rogan? I'm just focusing on the sex therapist.
39:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:29 Joe Rogan? Like, how crazy is it she's fucking her clients? Maybe her boyfriend wasn't fucking her at all. And she was like, at least someone's obsessed with it.
39:36 Speaker 02 Well, maybe.
39:37 Joe Rogan? Give it to me.
39:40 Speaker 02 Maybe that's how she cures you.
39:41 Joe Rogan? Cause if you're horny, if you're like a healthy person who's just horny normally. And the person you're with is not horny at all. And you're exhausted by that, but you're a sex therapist. And then you're, you're talking to some guy, he's a good looking guy and he's like, I, I wanna fuck all the time.
39:57 Speaker 02 That's the thing with.
39:58 Joe Rogan? And she's like, you know what, I wanna fuck all the time too.
40:00 Speaker 02 Sure. But like with porn addiction, you're so used, like he would have like 300 screens open at once. So one person to him is boring. So that's what like porn addiction is, you need so. I'm exaggerating, but you need like a lot of different things open and it probably has to get more and more progressive for you to like get off.
40:17 Joe Rogan? Wow. Well, that's where it gets real weird, right? Like you start getting into like the darker side of porn. Like violent porn and choking and gagging, spitting and slapping and abuse. Tying people up. That kinda shit. Like, cause if you're, if you're just getting your jollies, if you're not just trying to masturbate and have a little fantasy, you wanna like, it's gotta get darker and crazier and cra- it's gotta like really freak you out.
40:44 Speaker 02 But that's why I think you have all those screens open. You're watching all of it at once.
40:47 Joe Rogan? You're getting tiny dopamine hits from a hundred sources.
40:51 Speaker 02 So then like.
40:52 Joe Rogan? And then your therapist calling you up, get over here.
40:55 Speaker 02 I got 300 other therapists here.
40:58 Joe Rogan? You're a naughty boy, get over here.
41:01 Speaker 02 Yeah, so, I mean.
41:02 Joe Rogan? How did she say, how did he say that it started with the sex therapist?
41:06 Speaker 02 I don't know. He didn't tell me like the specifics of it. We had been broken up already and we like remained friends and he just told me that they started sleeping together.
41:13 Joe Rogan? Jesus. That seems crazy. That's like prison guards fucking the prisoners.
41:19 Speaker 02 I mean, if I was in prison, I would try and fuck all the guards. What else are you gonna do?
41:23 Joe Rogan? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:23 Speaker 02 I would do everything. I'd become Muslim. I would like become trans. I would do everything I could do in prison.
41:27 Joe Rogan? Right, just mix it up.
41:28 Speaker 02 To pass the time.
41:29 Joe Rogan? Yeah, especially if you have a long sentence.
41:31 Speaker 02 If you're there for life, I'm down to do everything.
41:34 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
41:34 Speaker 02 I'll do license plates. I'm gonna do hair.
41:38 Speaker 02 I'm gonna cook. I'm gonna do everything there.
41:41 Joe Rogan? Of course, yeah. Yeah. It's weird how many people are in prison. I mean, we went over this the other day. How many people are in prison in the United States compared to like the rest of the fucking world? It's like, we have the highest percentage of people that are in prison, I think of any country in the Western world for sure. I mean, you got, China's hard to count because you have essentially slaves.
42:07 Speaker 02 Well, also in China, they all live in like tiny boxes anyway, which are prisons of their own doing.
42:12 Joe Rogan? Well, like you wouldn't say necessarily that the people that make your iPhone are slaves. But they're literally sleeping in dorms and they put nets around the building to keep them from jumping off.
42:23 Speaker 02 I'd rather be in prison. How do you get in prison?
42:25 Joe Rogan? At least in prison, they probably like, give you less hours than the Foxconn workers.
42:31 Speaker 02 Sure.
42:31 Joe Rogan? You probably get better food. How many people? End of 2023, the US had 1.8 million people in prison, which is more than any other country. China had the second highest number of prisoners with about 100,000 fewer than the US. But the thing about China, again, like it's not just the amount of people in an actual prison. You have to think about the actual people that are slaves. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world, 724 people per 100,000.
43:00 Joe Rogan? England and Wales has an incarceration rate of 145 per 140,000 and Russia has 581 people per 100,000. So Russia's nipping at our heels. Russian people are fucking crazy though.
43:14 Joe Rogan? Uh, US has longer sentences than many other countries, which contributes to the high incarceration rates. I wonder how many other countries have private prisons, too. That's the dark part.
43:22 Speaker 02 Well, that's how you make the money.
43:24 Joe Rogan? Yeah, yeah. Profit, profit off of people. I remember when I found out that prison guard unions were lobbying to keep marijuana laws because they wanted people to be in jails. Like, what?
43:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, because they want to make money.
43:37 Joe Rogan? They want money. They need, they need that job. They need those contracts. So, uh, many countries have private prisons, including United States has the most private prisons in the world. Hundred and fifty-eight facilities in thirty states, Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. Australia, high percentage of privatized prisons, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Scotland, Wales, South Africa, Japan, Brazil. When did they start with the private prison thing? Like, who, what fucking monster? Okay, Google this. What was the first private prison? What fucking monster didn't see, didn't see the road ahead when you allow people to profit off of people being locked up? What monster didn't see you're gonna just have people lock more people up?
44:21 Joe Rogan? Nineteen eighty-four, these motherfuckers. It's George Orwell, literally is Orwell.
44:26 Speaker 02 I would have thought it was before that.
44:28 Joe Rogan? No, it's a fairly recent thing. Prison used to be something that we used to have because we had to lock certain people up to protect them from society. And instead, it became, hey, I think I could make money. I think I can make money off people in jail. They're using people like batteries to generate money.
44:46 Speaker 03 This thing says Louisiana privatized. It's penitentiary. I don't know if there's a big differentiation between that.
44:52 Speaker 02 Eighteen forty-four.
44:53 Joe Rogan? Privatized, which was run as a factory. Yeah, inmates were used to produce cheap clothing for enslaved people. Wow! That's crazy. You're producing clothes for slaves.
45:06 Speaker 02 I mean, that is basically just, um, Xi'an. That's what they're doing in China.
45:11 Joe Rogan? Right.
45:12 Speaker 02 All those clothes that are like two dollars.
45:14 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that's weird, right?
45:15 Speaker 02 I know.
45:16 Joe Rogan? You can buy a total knockoff of a designer dress for like four bucks.
45:19 Speaker 02 I know. It's great. I love it.
45:21 Joe Rogan? They're being, they think, you love it. I think there's a documentary on that that I was watching. My kid was watching and I walked in on it.
45:29 Speaker 02 Was it like the Xi'an documentary?
45:31 Joe Rogan? Mm-hmm. Yeah, they were talking about these people like they lost their contract because they weren't able to produce things as fast as this company needed them. And it was just all about the knockoff industry over there. So if you're a designer, you might like that top that you're wearing and people like it, they'll just take that top and copy it exactly. And sell for five bucks, you know, and you're like, what? It's fifty-nine dollars on my website. Nope.
45:53 Speaker 02 Why are there not knockoff iPhones?
45:56 Joe Rogan? There are. Not only is there not, not only is there a knockoff iPhone, there's a knockoff Apple Store in China. Where every single item is not really Apple.
46:06 Speaker 02 But it works just as good? It does not work as good.
46:09 Joe Rogan? I doubt it.
46:11 Speaker 02 How long does it last?
46:12 Joe Rogan? Why wouldn't they cut corners? They're already lying to you.
46:14 Speaker 02 I know.
46:15 Joe Rogan? Like, why wouldn't they put a cheaper chip in the laptops, wouldn't they put cheaper screens? If you want to use like Gorilla Glass and AMOLED displays, that's just expensive. Use some cheap ass, you know, five year ago bullshit and just sell it to morons.
46:29 Speaker 02 If it lasts for a couple of years, that's great.
46:31 Joe Rogan? Five year old bullshit still works.
46:33 Speaker 02 Yeah. It does.
46:35 Joe Rogan? It's not great, though.
46:36 Speaker 02 I mean, I drop my phone all the time.
46:37 Joe Rogan? Try to register with the Apple Store and they're like, nah, player. That's ain't an iPhone.
46:43 Speaker 02 That's why you need Riot so you can steal the stuff. It all comes back to that.
46:50 Speaker 02 Stealing all this stuff.
46:51 Joe Rogan? But someone's gotta make the stuff. Slaves.
46:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, in China.
46:54 Joe Rogan? Slaves in prison, in China. Yeah. I mean, what percentage of, let's, let's ask this. What percentage of our electronics is made in China?
47:04 Speaker 02 Probably ninety-five percent.
47:06 Joe Rogan? Well, a lot gets made in Japan and South Korea. Like Sony, huge. Samsung, huge. They're probably one of the biggest electronic makers. They make everything. They make refrigerators. They make like smart refrigerators where you can like check your refrigerator with your phone, see what the fuck's in there.
47:22 Speaker 02 To make sure your refrigerator is like not doing something.
47:25 Joe Rogan? Yeah, checking on you. Keep an eye on that motherfucker.
47:28 Speaker 02 What's going on in there?
47:29 Joe Rogan? What are you doing?
47:30 Speaker 02 How many ice cubes have you made?
47:32 Joe Rogan? You lazy bitch. Where's my fucking ice, ice cubes from your refrigerator, from your freezer? Are they the dirtiest ice cubes of all time? Like, I don't ever want those in my glass.
47:43 Speaker 03 Remember, although I think the Apple stuff is all coming from China.
47:46 Joe Rogan? You nailed it. Oh, yeah, all the stuff that gets made actually gets made from Apple. That's all China. Laptops and computer monitors, China supplies ninety-two percent of US imports.
47:58 Joe Rogan? Phones, China supplies seventy-four percent of US phone imports. So Samsung does not use China for phones. And I don't know if it's an ethical thing or what, but I think they make their phones in India and somewhere else. Maybe Vietnam?
48:16 Speaker 02 Did they, is there a correlation between them like stopping killing baby girls in China with making all of this stuff? Where they go like, let's keep them alive, so we can have them?
48:27 Joe Rogan? No, I think they just woke up and said, we have like eighty-five percent men.
48:31 Speaker 02 Right.
48:31 Joe Rogan? And all these poor women are fucked. You know, like.
48:35 Speaker 02 They have to keep fucking all these guys.
48:36 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
48:37 Speaker 02 There's not enough women.
48:38 Joe Rogan? They have to live with like three or four guys, just to balance it out.
48:42 Speaker 02 Gross.
48:43 Joe Rogan? Take turns.
48:43 Speaker 03 Competition, they're not as highly competitive in China, it sounds like.
48:47 Joe Rogan? Hmm, they relocated some of the manufacturing from China, Southeast Asia, to avoid high labor costs. What?
48:56 Speaker 02 Say?
48:57 Joe Rogan? Those slaves are expensive, Adrian.
48:59 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
49:00 Joe Rogan? Uh, Samsung also hasn't been able to compete with Chinese brands like Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo in the Chinese market. Interesting.
49:08 Speaker 02 I've never even heard of those brands.
49:10 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they make, um, Xiaomi makes, um, like, high-end Android phones. In the rest of the world, Android phones are huge.
49:19 Speaker 02 I know.
49:19 Joe Rogan? Because everybody uses WhatsApp. They don't really give a fuck about iMessage.
49:23 Speaker 02 WhatsApp is like big in the Hispanic community, too.
49:26 Joe Rogan? Yeah, WhatsApp is huge. Well, I have friends that only talk to me on WhatsApp.
49:30 Speaker 02 I do too.
49:31 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Like, well Zuckerberg owns it. You know, he owns it. But I don't talk to him other than WhatsApp. He's a WhatsApp, but he owns WhatsApp.
49:40 Speaker 02 You talk to him on WhatsApp?
49:42 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I talk to him on WhatsApp.
49:42 Speaker 02 What does he say?
49:43 Joe Rogan? He talks shit about things.
49:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, he's like, what's up?
49:46 Joe Rogan? He's a nice guy. He really is. He's, no, he's a billionaire. Yeah, he's a nice guy. It's when someone's like really rich, like, oh, that guy's not a person.
49:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, but he didn't start out rich though, did he?
49:55 Joe Rogan? No. Of course not, he invented Facebook.
49:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, but some people start, some people are rich and they like had, their families had money the whole time, so that, yeah.
50:02 Joe Rogan? That's weird, right? Cause then you're insulated from birth and then you go right into a deeper layer of insulation where you're like completely, yeah, yeah. Completely disconnected from people. That's when you get into like Bill Gates category, which, let's figure out a way to block out the sun.
50:19 Speaker 02 You're so rich where you're like, I really wanna fuck shit up for everyone.
50:23 Joe Rogan? Imagine, like, I was reading this thing about Bill Gates's idea to block out the sun and oopsies, oopsies, Jamie.
50:29 Speaker 02 Sorry.
50:30 Joe Rogan? No worries, it happens.
50:31 Speaker 02 I'll, I'll clean it, I'm a woman, I'll clean it. I know my place.
50:37 Joe Rogan? Like, he, they were talking about Bill Gates has some plan to stop global warming and like, shoot particles into the air to block out the sun. And people are like, hey, do you know how many fucking people are on Earth? You can't just come up with that idea and try it. Like, what about the rest of us?
50:52 Speaker 02 You only need vitamin D.
50:53 Joe Rogan? But imagine being so ridiculous, you're, you're so wealthy that you think, oh, I could just block the sun.
50:59 Speaker 02 I kinda love it. I kinda love that this guy's so nuts.
51:03 Joe Rogan? He is nuts.
51:04 Speaker 02 And then you're like, I'm just gonna stop, like, water from hap- like, you're just gonna, like, I love so many of the things that can do that much damage to the world.
51:11 Joe Rogan? I think people should just stop eating meat. And then he just, like, tries to get everybody stupid fucking fake meat.
51:17 Speaker 02 That's fine, but imagine, like, blocking out the sun.
51:18 Joe Rogan? That's crazy. Yeah, he's also buying farmland.
51:21 Speaker 02 To do what?
51:22 Joe Rogan? Who fucking knows? Probably grow his fake meat food.
51:26 Speaker 02 Like GMO shit?
51:27 Joe Rogan? Yeah, well, fake meat is made out of plant protein, and so you have to grow plants.
51:32 Speaker 02 I've never had it.
51:33 Joe Rogan? It's nasty.
51:34 Speaker 02 I bet it's disgusting.
51:36 Joe Rogan? The thing about it is, like, if you wanna have healthy vegetarian food, go eat Indian food. It tastes delicious, it's good for you, and it's vegetarian. Like, it just doesn't have to pretend to be a cheeseburger.
51:49 Speaker 02 Right.
51:49 Joe Rogan? The fake cheeseburger stuff is all seed oils.
51:52 Speaker 02 Just eat legumes and whatever you're gonna eat.
51:55 Joe Rogan? Yeah, if you, you can do it. Like, if you can, if you wanna eat healthy and have delicious food, Indian food's the way to go. One hundred, there's an Indian food restaurant in Woodland Hills I used to go to all the time. It was this cool place, it was like, everybody spoke Hindi. And you went in there and, like, you had to, like, just guess what you're eating and point, everything was vegetarian.
52:15 Speaker 02 Pretty scary to me.
52:16 Joe Rogan? Oh, it was super, super authentic. It was like, there's this weird offshoot Indian community, and so they had, like, this Indian grocery store. And then in the back of the Indian grocery store, they had this cafe, and it was all Indian food. It was really. Good though.
52:29 Speaker 02 It's probably, they use a lot of spices too.
52:31 Joe Rogan? Oh yeah, they know how to spice the shit out of those vegetables. But it was good. It was like delicious vegetables.
52:37 Speaker 02 It's pretty healthy.
52:38 Joe Rogan? It's very healthy.
52:39 Speaker 02 It's like vegetables and like all that stuff's pretty good.
52:42 Joe Rogan? Also, they use a lot of turmeric, you know, like and curcumin and all the, those spices and like, that's all anti-inflammatory turmeric.
52:49 Speaker 02 Right. I mean, you have to be close to a bathroom, but like it is pretty good.
52:52 Joe Rogan? Let's go. You gotta be ready to go.
52:56 Speaker 02 I'm gonna eat this on the run.
52:57 Joe Rogan? But that's my point is like, if you wanna fucking eat vegetarian, if you wanna eat vegetables only, there's a way to do it that tastes good and you don't have to pretend you're eating a fucking burger. Those burgers are nasty.
53:09 Speaker 02 Feel left out? Like what is the point of pretending to eat that?
53:12 Joe Rogan? Well, it's cause the people quit eating meat.
53:14 Speaker 02 Right. I understand that.
53:16 Joe Rogan? No, they quit and then they want the meat back. They wish they could have the meat. Oh, you could pretend you're eating the meat. It even bleeds just like a burger.
53:24 Speaker 02 Gross. Just eat a burger or eat beans or whatever you can eat.
53:28 Joe Rogan? Super duper unhe- unhealthy for you.
53:31 Speaker 02 It can't be healthy to manufacture it like that.
53:34 Joe Rogan? It's so processed. If you wanna eat vegetables, this is how you eat them. Come out of the ground, clean them up.
53:41 Speaker 02 Put some spices.
53:42 Joe Rogan? Cook them. That's a vegetable. You don't run it through fucking machines and glop it up with oils and extract things and compress it and shut the fuck up.
53:53 Speaker 02 Tempeh looks like?
53:54 Joe Rogan? Oh, it's nasty.
53:55 Speaker 02 I know. My friend was eating it one time. I was like, that looks disgusting.
53:58 Joe Rogan? Ugh. I was watching the production of tofu, like from scratch with all these machines. Like, why would you ever think that's natural?
54:05 Speaker 02 And tofu doesn't taste good. I mean, I know it picks up the flavor, what it, whatever it is, but it's like, it's on its own, it has no taste.
54:11 Joe Rogan? No, on its own has no taste. It's a crude source of protein that doesn't have a lot of amino acids in it and it's not as bioavailable. But you can live on it. Like you can live, you, you can live on vegetables. You can do it. It's just, it's not advisable.
54:26 Speaker 02 You just don't have energy though.
54:28 Joe Rogan? No, you're missing so many things. You're missing creatine, you're missing a bunch of amino acids, you're missing vitamin B12. There's a bunch of things you're gonna have to supplement with. You know, there's ways people supplement that, that can mitigate some of that. Um, algae's a good one. Cause algae's kind of a life form that's different and you can get certain vitamins from algae that you can't get from just like. Plants that grow above ground.
54:52 Speaker 02 This sounds disgusting.
54:53 Joe Rogan? It does sound disgusting. You know what vegans should really consider adopting into their diet? Molusks. Because mollusks are actually more primitive than plants. They just, you gotta go over the fact that they move, okay? Because Venus flytraps move too.
55:10 Speaker 02 They do.
55:10 Joe Rogan? Would you feel bad about eating a Venus flytrap salad? If you do, you're a cuckoo person. You're not just a vegetarian. You're a cuckoo person. Now, you think the Venus flytrap is smarter than like cabbage? That's stupid. That doesn't make any sense.
55:23 Speaker 02 Do vegetarians not eat any vegetables either? Aren't there some people that believe like all that's...
55:27 Joe Rogan? Oh, fruitarians. That's a fruitarian, yeah.
55:29 Speaker 02 So then what do they eat?
55:30 Joe Rogan? Well, those people eat cancer. They die.
55:32 Speaker 02 I mean, that's crazy.
55:33 Joe Rogan? That's so bad for you to just, you only eat fruit. You're overwhelmed with sugar. You're eating sugar all day long. Sugar should be something you have every now and then, I think. I mean, I think sugar is generally, it causes all sorts of inflammation. It's not really good for you. It tastes great, but it's not good for you.
55:50 Speaker 02 You mean like fruit sugar or like...
55:52 Joe Rogan? Even fruit sugar. I think you should get fruit sugar in the form of fruit only. You definitely shouldn't get it in orange juice. Orange juice is no different than drinking a Coca-Cola.
56:01 Speaker 02 But what if it's like a hundred percent just orange juice?
56:04 Joe Rogan? Doesn't matter. Your body's not used to processing all that liquid sugar. Yeah, exactly the same way, maybe even worse. Because some, like, uh, my daughter once got one of them little apple juices from Disneyland. And she looks at, she goes, "Jesus Christ, this has eighteen grams of sugar in it."
56:21 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
56:22 Joe Rogan? Tiny thing.
56:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
56:24 Joe Rogan? Like, what is a Coca-Cola, Jamie? Is it thirty? Let's guess. How many grams of sugar do you think Coca-Cola has in it?
56:30 Speaker 02 Probably about forty.
56:31 Joe Rogan? Forty?
56:32 Speaker 02 Thirty-eight.
56:33 Joe Rogan? I say about thirty. What do you think, Jamie? Like thirty-ish?
56:37 Speaker 03 Thirty-nine.
56:37 Joe Rogan? Thirty-nine? Okay. That's it?
56:41 Speaker 03 Yeah, sorry, that's what it is.
56:42 Joe Rogan? Okay. So what is, uh, twelve ounces of orange juice? Twelve ounces of, let's say, fresh squeezed. So it's, you think you're eating healthy. Fresh squeezed orange juice.
56:53 Speaker 02 There's, you still have to be better off having a fruit juice over a diet Coke.
56:57 Joe Rogan? Not, well, not.
56:58 Speaker 02 Or not a Coke, a regular Coke.
56:59 Joe Rogan? Not much. Well, there is, they're both fructose, right? Thirty, yeah, real similar, real similar to Coca-Cola. You do get vitamin C, you get that. But if you want orange juice, you should get it from eating oranges. Cause when, that's what, your body knows what to do with that. Your body gets a slice of orange, it goes, I need to do with this. This is good, there's plenty of fiber in there.
57:23 Speaker 02 Okay, so let me ask you this. If you're drinking orange juice, how come your body doesn't recognize that as an orange?
57:28 Joe Rogan? Because it's going straight to your liver, okay? There's no breaking down of fiber. There's no, and you're getting a dose of equivalent to like eating eight oranges immediately.
57:39 Speaker 02 Okay.
57:39 Joe Rogan? Your body's like, what the fuck is this? That's why soda's so bad for you.
57:44 Speaker 02 Sure.
57:44 Joe Rogan? Your body's like, what the fuck is this?
57:48 Speaker 02 Well, I stopped eating sugar.
57:50 Joe Rogan? Totally?
57:51 Speaker 02 I only have like fruit, but like, other than that, I don't have any like cookies or cake or any of that stuff.
57:57 Joe Rogan? How do you feel?
57:58 Speaker 02 I feel better. I mean, I lost a ton of weight.
58:00 Joe Rogan? You did, you look great.
58:01 Speaker 02 Thanks, I, uh.
58:02 Joe Rogan? How much you lose?
58:03 Speaker 02 From the last time I was here, probably like forty-five, fifty pounds, but I also was working out too.
58:08 Joe Rogan? How do your joints feel? They must feel so much lighter.
58:10 Speaker 02 They do, but like I have a friend who's like losing weight, it doesn't matter how much you weigh, it doesn't weigh on your joints. And I'm like, you know, that's like not true.
58:18 Joe Rogan? That doesn't make any sense.
58:19 Speaker 02 I know, but you just kinda have to let people think that, cause what am I gonna do, fight with you about it? Just, okay.
58:23 Joe Rogan? She said it doesn't make a difference in your joints?
58:25 Speaker 02 Doesn't make a difference how much you weigh, like on your knees.
58:29 Joe Rogan? Guy or a girl?
58:29 Speaker 02 A girl.
58:32 Speaker 02 And I was like, okay, I'm just, like I was staying at her house too, and I was like, I'm not gonna fight with you about this.
58:36 Joe Rogan? I used to notice the difference when I was fighting, when I would lose weight, when I would, uh, compete. So I used to weigh like a hundred and fifty-five pounds, and I had to compete at a hundred and forty.
58:48 Speaker 02 And just that fifteen pound weight you felt?
58:50 Joe Rogan? Oh yeah, I felt so light, I felt so, so light on my feet. Well, I work out with a vest, I put a weight vest on, so it's a twenty-five pound weight vest, and I do like all these body weight exercises. When I get that, that twenty-five pounds doesn't seem like much. I get that thing off me, I'm like.
59:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, my back, everything feels better.
59:08 Joe Rogan? Of course, your joints, everything, you're overstressed, but your legs are probably as strong as fuck. I used to say that about Ralphie May, I'm like, bro, if you could lose weight, you could kick through a fucking building.
59:20 Speaker 02 But I think your knees are just like, we need a break.
59:23 Joe Rogan? Right, but they will get a break, they're gonna get a break because you're gonna lose 400 pounds.
59:26 Speaker 02 If you lose 400 pounds, sure.
59:29 Joe Rogan? I mean, but I was looking at his legs, I'm like, the muscle you must have in your legs, you go upstairs. You know, Ralphie was performing in the belly room. Ralphie went into the belly room, so he had to go upstairs. You remember the belly room of the store? That's a fucking stair, old school staircase.
59:45 Speaker 02 But I mean, how often are you doing that?
59:47 Joe Rogan? Well, he's walking a lot, because he was always walking, just walking. Imagine if, okay, I weighed 205 pounds, if I had to put on a, what did Ralphie weigh in his prime, if you had to guess?
1:00:01 Speaker 02 I have no idea, 500 pounds?
1:00:03 Joe Rogan? If I had to put on 300 pounds, imagine if, and I'm in shape, imagine if I had to walk around the Comedy Store with a dumbbell on my weight, on my back, or a barbell on my back, with 300 pounds on it.
1:00:16 Speaker 02 Okay, but I mean, you're not-
1:00:17 Joe Rogan? I could make it like 30 steps, then I have to put it down and take a break for like five minutes, and then try to pick it up again, and I'd be exhausted, this dude's just walking around all day like that.
1:00:27 Speaker 02 But if you're walking around that much, you're gonna lose a lot of weight, too.
1:00:30 Speaker 03 He almost lost that much weight.
1:00:32 Joe Rogan? That's what you lost?
1:00:33 Speaker 03 Yeah. He weighed almost 800 pounds.
1:00:36 Joe Rogan? Yo.
1:00:37 Speaker 02 And just walking up the stairs at the belly room, he lost 300 pounds?
1:00:40 Joe Rogan? Just once, one time.
1:00:41 Speaker 02 One time? That's crazy, why are we not having all the fat people walk?
1:00:45 Joe Rogan? Wow, he used to weigh over 800 pounds, he underwent gastric bypass surgery and lost 350 pounds, but he struggled with his weight. He, um, he blew out his gastric bypass twice.
1:00:56 Speaker 02 Well, the thing is with, I mean, a lot of people that get those surgeries, you're not, if you're not figuring out the reason why you're overeating like that, it doesn't matter, you can still gain the weight back if you eat small meals all day long. I have friends that have gotten it and you just eat small meals all day long.
1:01:10 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:01:10 Speaker 02 And you're just still gaining the weight back, yeah.
1:01:12 Joe Rogan? Keep, you at least maintain your weight. You can't keep as much in there at a time as like a giant plate of food, but.
1:01:18 Speaker 02 No, but if you eat little meals all day and graze, you'll gain the weight back. I know people that have had that surgery and you're like, oh, you just gained a lot of your weight back.
1:01:27 Joe Rogan? Right, so they're not eating because they're hungry. They're eating because they're crazy. There's something wrong.
1:01:31 Speaker 02 Right, it's like the same way people abuse anything, right? Like if it's alcohol or sex or drugs, you know, it's the same thing, right? You're trying to like numb out and fill a void. So if you don't actually address that, you're not gonna just stop eating.
1:01:42 Joe Rogan? So, someone told me this, um, find out if this is true. Does Bruno Mars owe the MGM a ton of money from gambling? Is that true?
1:01:51 Speaker 03 I've seen the story where someone's claims they were there.
1:01:54 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I've talked to someone who claims it's, someone who would know, who claims it's true. But isn't that crazy, if true, that even a guy like Bruno Mars, who's just super wealthy, super famous, super talented singer?
1:02:08 Speaker 02 Doesn't mean you don't have issues, though.
1:02:09 Joe Rogan? Right, but the gambling one is a nutty one.
1:02:11 Speaker 02 It is, well, my dad was a gambler.
1:02:13 Speaker 03 MGM, he has no debt.
1:02:15 Joe Rogan? Because MGM probably made some sort of a deal.
1:02:17 Speaker 03 Right.
1:02:18 Speaker 02 Right.
1:02:18 Joe Rogan? Because doesn't he have like some sort of, he has no debt with MGM? Wink, wink. So they have a deal. So what is, uh, would, they have some sort of a, he has a residency there, right?
1:02:29 Speaker 03 I think so.
1:02:32 Joe Rogan? The word is.
1:02:33 Speaker 03 Right.
1:02:33 Joe Rogan? I don't know if he's got a gambling problem.
1:02:35 Speaker 02 My dad was a gambler and like he made no money. It's the craziest thing to be a gambler when you have no real money.
1:02:41 Joe Rogan? Oh, it's a crazy one. It's a crazy addiction. It's an addiction that, um, I, I first saw when I started hanging out in pool halls when I was 23. I started, I became addicted to playing pool. I was playing it all the time. I blew my knee out. I needed to get knee surgery. And, um, uh, when I blew my knee out, I couldn't work out, so I had to wait for surgery and so like my ACL was all fucked up. And so I just started playing pool with one of my friends and I became addicted to playing pool. And I would go there all the time. Because as a comedian, I didn't have a job. I just would go on stage at night and during the daytime,
1:03:14 Speaker 02 Right.
1:03:15 Joe Rogan? I'd hang out in pool halls and at nighttime I'd hang out in pool halls and I just. Got around these people that I I'd never known anybody like that before. Just fully addicted to gambling all day long. They would go to the racetrack. They would go to off track betting.
1:03:28 Speaker 02 My dad used to take me to OTB as a kid. That's brutal. And that's when they used to let you smoke. You just come home smelling like smoke. It's disgusting.
1:03:36 Joe Rogan? In there as a kid.
1:03:37 Speaker 02 Me and my sister, we would hang out with my dad in the OTB for hours.
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1:05:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, you're way better, Dad. It wouldn't be bad if my dad was gambling and he was like, you know, he was a mailman. You can't, you can't gam- you can't do both of those things at the same time.
1:05:35 Joe Rogan? Yeah. It's a crazy one. It's a really cra- who was it that told us that the dad, the dad was gambling so hard they lost their house? Oh, fuck, I forgot the whole story, but it's just, you don't hear a story, very rarely, about a gambling addict who like kills it and like they retire in Vegas and they have
1:05:57 Speaker 02 No, because you keep going until you eventually lose everything.
1:06:00 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's a dark one. Did you see Uncut Gems?
1:06:03 Speaker 02 No.
1:06:05 Joe Rogan? You should see it. Well, you might be too close to home.
1:06:07 Speaker 02 It doesn't matter.
1:06:08 Joe Rogan? It's, uh, it's Adam Sandler, I think his best movie ever, and it wasn't even a comedy at all. It's a drama.
1:06:14 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:06:14 Joe Rogan? He fucking kills in it, too. It's so good.
1:06:16 Speaker 02 I have heard other people say that.
1:06:18 Joe Rogan? It's so good.
1:06:18 Speaker 02 I gotta watch it.
1:06:19 Joe Rogan? But it's, for me, like, having known those people.
1:06:22 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:06:23 Joe Rogan? And it's so filled with anxiety, because it's a, it's a sports betting thing. Sports betters are the craziest ones, because there's so many different ways to bet. You can get, bet the spread, you can bet parlays, you can do all.
1:06:34 Speaker 02 My dad, for a while, my dad was like taking money from his pension, which like, yeah, so when he died, there was like really not that much money. My mom was forcing him to go to Gambler's Anonymous while he was also still gambling.
1:06:46 Joe Rogan? It's not gonna help.
1:06:47 Speaker 02 If you don't really wanna stop, right, if you don't wanna stop, you're not gonna stop.
1:06:51 Joe Rogan? I think food is the hardest one, um, because food addiction, you always have to eat food, right?
1:06:58 Speaker 02 Right.
1:06:58 Joe Rogan? All the other ones, you can kind of just not do them anymore.
1:07:01 Speaker 02 That's why I stopped eating sugar, because once I started eating it, I can't stop.
1:07:04 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:07:04 Speaker 02 So then, once it's like out of your system, you don't crave it anymore.
1:07:07 Joe Rogan? Well, that's because your gut bacteria changes.
1:07:09 Speaker 02 That makes sense.
1:07:10 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's, what is it, candida, is that what it is? There's a specific type of gut flora that consumes sugar and, uh, it thrives on sugar. And with people that eat a lot of sugar, it's very prominent in their, their gut bacteria. And it literally changes your brain. It changes your chemistry. It changes your mood.
1:07:30 Speaker 02 Doesn't sugar also just like a breeding ground for cancer, like when you have cancer?
1:07:34 Joe Rogan? One of the things they tell you if you get cancer. Stop all sugar, get on a ketogenic diet, so get your body to eat like high fats. Yeah, eat a lot of macadamia nuts and things with, you know, things you get a lot of fat from. And just that's, you, your body starts burning fat, which you feel so much better when you live like that. Your brain works better.
1:07:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, for sure. You're just like in a brain fog.
1:07:55 Joe Rogan? Yeah, for sure. Sure for me, I mean, you know, I'm Italian, so I grew up eating pasta and bread and pizza, it was like common. And when I stopped doing it, when I went like on a carnivore diet, the first thing that I thought that was really bizarre was I wasn't hungry during the day. Like I ne- I never got this like famished starvation feeling.
1:08:16 Speaker 02 Well, cause isn't it like you're, if you're eating stuff that's like high in carbohydrates like that, you're, doesn't your blood sugar like drop really quickly and stuff?
1:08:23 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it spikes when you eat, it's like, it's insulin. Your body produces a ton of insulin and you want, you want your body to run on ketones. If your body runs on ketones, it's just like, it works better, your thought. One of the things that I noticed like almost immediately was like when I came in to do podcasts, I was much better at it. My, my brain, like just as a, from a performance enhancing perspective, my brain functions better. I can form sentences better.
1:08:50 Speaker 02 If I was eating like a lot of sugar, you almost get like that same hungover feeling as if you drink. Like I've had that where like if you binge eat sugar and then the next day you're like, oh my god, I feel so hungover.
1:09:01 Joe Rogan? It's similar, yeah. It's similar. Like there's something to, it's not as extreme, cause you're probably not dehydrated too. But yeah, your body's like, what are you doing to me, man?
1:09:10 Speaker 02 It's not good.
1:09:11 Joe Rogan? It's not good.
1:09:12 Speaker 02 Not at all.
1:09:12 Joe Rogan? But it's so delicious. Like,
1:09:14 Speaker 02 It is, sure.
1:09:15 Joe Rogan? Cake is so fucking good while you're eating it.
1:09:17 Speaker 02 I know.
1:09:17 Joe Rogan? While you're eating it, you're like, god, this is so good.
1:09:19 Speaker 02 My dad felt gambling on the horses. He's like, this feels so good. And then, what he, so they would send us to Catholic school and he would like not pay, like tuition and then they would call me in to like talk to me.
1:09:32 Joe Rogan? Oh no.
1:09:32 Speaker 02 And I'd have to go talk to my dad.
1:09:34 Joe Rogan? And he was gambling the money away?
1:09:35 Speaker 02 Yeah, my dad was always gambling.
1:09:39 Joe Rogan? I think people need some excitement in their life, you know?
1:09:43 Speaker 02 Sure, and it's like, why are you doing that? What are you trying to numb out? Cause god knows what he was, you know what I mean? Like everyone's kind of, trying to fix their problems from their childhood or they're not.
1:09:53 Joe Rogan? There's that, but I think with gambling, it's also it's excitement.
1:09:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:09:58 Joe Rogan? And you get addicted to just having a purpose and having excitement. Your purpose is to figure out when the Knicks are gonna win by seventeen points.
1:10:05 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:10:06 Joe Rogan? And if they win, you win, and then, yes, I'm alive!
1:10:10 Speaker 02 It like spikes, like you're just like that feeling of like winning and then that feeling of losing.
1:10:14 Joe Rogan? Well, that's the craziest thing about the Adam Sandler movie. There's a moment in it, spoiler alert, where he does make this big win. And so with this big win, he's gonna be able to pay all these people off that are trying to kill him, and he immediately doubles down and puts it on another, and you're like, what the fuck are you doing?
1:10:27 Speaker 02 Right, you just, because that's the thing, you're chasing that high constantly. I had a friend who's a huge gambler, and like, he lost so much money, and no matter how much he gambles, if he's up fifteen thousand dollars, he's still chasing that eight million dollar loss. So it doesn't matter, he's, he's constantly chasing that big loss. And like, no matter how much he wins, he's like, yeah, but I still lost all that other money, so I'm gonna keep chasing this.
1:10:51 Joe Rogan? My good friend Dana White is a gambling addict.
1:10:54 Speaker 02 And also, if you're super rich, you just have more to lose.
1:10:57 Joe Rogan? Oh yeah, he, he goes hard. We went to visit him at, um, Green Valley, was it Green, no, River, Red Rocks? Red Rocks. We went to visit him at Red Rocks, Jamie and I went, and when we got there, he was six hundred thousand dollars down. When we got there.
1:11:11 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
1:11:11 Joe Rogan? Playing blackjack. But at the end of the night, he stayed till like six in the morning, he was six hundred thousand dollars up. So he won that money back, and then he got him for six hundred grand.
1:11:21 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
1:11:23 Joe Rogan? He's there all the time, he loves it, he lov, but he's worth like, you know, I don't know what he's worth, hundreds of millions of dollars, like.
1:11:30 Speaker 02 Right.
1:11:30 Joe Rogan? He can get away with that, but it's like, jeez.
1:11:32 Speaker 02 Not my dad who's making forty grand a year.
1:11:34 Joe Rogan? But it's nutty that even a wealthy guy, you would think, you're that wealthy, why would you wanna gamble?
1:11:39 Speaker 02 It's just the feeling, there's nothing that replicates that feeling that you get when you're like winning or losing.
1:11:45 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's a real drug.
1:11:47 Speaker 02 For sure.
1:11:48 Joe Rogan? And it's a weird one, it's a really weird, it's like, it hijacks like your, your human reward system that's built to solve problems and overcome adversaries and, you know, conquer and get conquered. Like, it's, it's hijacking that little part of your brain.
1:12:03 Speaker 02 I kinda wanna gamble.
1:12:04 Joe Rogan? Right now, right?
1:12:05 Speaker 02 Right now, let's just fucking go.
1:12:07 Joe Rogan? If you were a gambler, what do you think your game would be?
1:12:11 Speaker 02 Whenever I do it, it's just like slots.
1:12:13 Joe Rogan? Really? That's the dumbest one.
1:12:14 Speaker 02 I know, cuz I don't really know how to play blackjack or anything. So I'm just like, "Ewwww." "I'm gonna lose all my money."
1:12:24 Joe Rogan? Well, you wanna learn, though?
1:12:25 Speaker 02 I would like to learn, yeah. I did learn blackjack a little bit. My friend was teaching me.
1:12:29 Joe Rogan? I think I could learn blackjack craps. I'm like, "You might as well be trying to teach me how to read, you know, ancient Hebrew."
1:12:36 Speaker 02 The weird one to me is like someone who puts all the money on the red or black.
1:12:39 Joe Rogan? Oh, roulette?
1:12:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:12:40 Joe Rogan? That's a nutty one.
1:12:41 Speaker 02 It is, cuz don't you have to get the number? How do you even like, how do you even bet on that? It's such a chance.
1:12:47 Joe Rogan? I think there's a bunch of different ways you can bet. I think you can bet red or black. You could bet specific numbers. You know, I think there's a bunch of different ways, but if you wanted to like bet at all, red or black, I think you can. I think you can bet like a hundred grand on one roll. I think it's gonna come out red.
1:13:02 Speaker 02 I don't know, I just imagine like the feeling you get putting, say you put a hundred grand down and then you lose and you're like, "Nooo."
1:13:11 Speaker 02 "That's my children's tuition. There goes our house."
1:13:14 Joe Rogan? But that thing addicts people. I mean, that's the argument why casinos shouldn't be everywhere. Because people would just, everywhere they would be falling into gambling addiction.
1:13:24 Speaker 02 For the most, I mean casinos, like there's one in Yonkers in New York, it's so depressing. It's just all old people that are there on disability, just sitting there and they're doing that thing.
1:13:32 Joe Rogan? The slots.
1:13:33 Speaker 02 The slots and just smoking. I know.
1:13:37 Joe Rogan? Just waiting to die.
1:13:38 Speaker 02 It's very sad. You're waiting to die.
1:13:39 Joe Rogan? Yeah. It's a dark thing that you just sit these people in front of those things and just they press buttons. And all the lights are going on, so the little brain is getting activity. Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.
1:13:51 Speaker 02 My mother told me that my grandmother was like a big gambler and she also didn't have money. It's crazy, you know, when people who are poor gambling. And she would lose the money all the time, like the rent money. My grandfather used to hit her.
1:14:02 Joe Rogan? Oh, God.
1:14:03 Speaker 02 I know, and I was like, "I guess he didn't hit her hard enough to learn this." Cuz she kept doing it.
1:14:08 Joe Rogan? It didn't work.
1:14:10 Speaker 02 She just kept doing it.
1:14:11 Joe Rogan? My grandmother used to run the numbers for the mom.
1:14:14 Speaker 02 Interesting.
1:14:15 Joe Rogan? Yeah, she actually went to jail. She went to jail for like six months.
1:14:18 Speaker 02 You really are Italian. I didn't even know you're Italian.
1:14:21 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Yeah, my grandmother, um, she was addicted to the numbers and she would always talk about the numbers. Like, "I was gonna bet this, that, and that, but this one came through and I changed my mind." She was always like, "Change your mind at the last minute."
1:14:34 Speaker 02 That's gotta be the whole time, where you're just like, "Should I do this number, should I do that number?"
1:14:37 Joe Rogan? It was, most conversations I had with her were about either ghosts, psychics, or the numbers.
1:14:44 Speaker 02 Do, I mean, do psychics work? Cause wouldn't you think they could predict the numbers?
1:14:49 Joe Rogan? Yeah. I think, um, psychic phenomenon is an emerging property of human consciousness that's not quite there yet. I think that language didn't develop overnight. I think eyesight didn't develop overnight. And I think, uh, psychic connection between human beings is a, it's a real thing that nobody... I think some people are better at it. They have more of a gene for it, or more of a... It could be like a biochemistry thing. It could be a psychology thing. There's, there's a something that you connect to sometimes where you know something.
1:15:26 Speaker 02 Right.
1:15:27 Joe Rogan? But you don't know why you know it. There's, when you know someone's gonna call and then they call, you're thinking about someone and they call you. I think that's real. I think it's just not, you can't put it on a scale. I think the problem is it's too ethereal. It's like too ephemeral, rather. It's too... It's not quite there yet. But I think it's an emerging thing that's happening.
1:15:46 Speaker 02 Would you wanna know the day you're gonna die if you could find out?
1:15:49 Joe Rogan? No.
1:15:50 Speaker 02 Would you wanna know how you're gonna die?
1:15:51 Joe Rogan? No. No. I'm interested in while I'm alive, just living.
1:15:56 Speaker 02 I would, I would like to know the day.
1:15:58 Joe Rogan? I wouldn't wanna know. I don't wanna know.
1:16:00 Speaker 02 Because then I would just take a lot more chances.
1:16:01 Joe Rogan? You'd be freaking out the last few days.
1:16:03 Speaker 02 Sure, but like, I would probably do a lot of stuff now if I knew I was gonna die at like seventy or eighty.
1:16:09 Joe Rogan? We probably are gonna die at seventy or eighty.
1:16:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, but you don't know for sure.
1:16:13 Joe Rogan? Well, technology could come along and extend that quite a bit.
1:16:15 Speaker 02 Cause then I would try and see if I could die before. Just like run across the highway.
1:16:20 Joe Rogan? Really? Like, just beat the system?
1:16:23 Speaker 02 See if I could beat the system.
1:16:24 Joe Rogan? Well, you can always jump off a bridge. Imagine that.
1:16:26 Speaker 02 George Washington Bridge, if I was gonna do it, that's the best, that's the bridge to go off of.
1:16:30 Joe Rogan? Do people do that?
1:16:31 Speaker 02 I'm sure they do. But you gotta do it when it screws enough people, like Labor Day weekend or something. Just hold that traffic up.
1:16:38 Joe Rogan? I had a friend who jumped off the Golden Gate.
1:16:40 Speaker 02 I guess he died.
1:16:41 Joe Rogan? He did.
1:16:42 Speaker 02 Do you ever see that documentary? About the people that live?
1:16:44 Joe Rogan? I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it. I know about it, yeah.
1:16:46 Speaker 02 It's interesting, because some of the people that lived are like, as soon as you jump, you regret it.
1:16:50 Joe Rogan? Yeah, of course. It's like, your body's like freaking out. It's like, oh my god.
1:16:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:16:54 Joe Rogan? You have three seconds to think about life before you plummet seventy-five miles an hour into the ocean.
1:17:00 Speaker 02 They always stop traffic to on the bridge.
1:17:02 Joe Rogan? Which is weird.
1:17:03 Speaker 02 Right, because you're like, they're already dead.
1:17:04 Joe Rogan? Pop out of the water and land in the middle of the road.
1:17:06 Speaker 02 And look for them. What are we doing up here? Why can't I, why can't I go over the bridge?
1:17:10 Joe Rogan? Why are you stopping traffic on the bridge? I guess it's to make sure that nobody pushed him.
1:17:15 Joe Rogan? Look for evidence of like fingernails clawing at the poles.
1:17:18 Speaker 02 Sure, but like, the highway's fine, though.
1:17:22 Joe Rogan? I agree.
1:17:22 Speaker 02 Just like, look on the edges.
1:17:24 Joe Rogan? I think whenever they get a chance to shut things down, they like it.
1:17:27 Speaker 02 One time I got hit by a, um, a car, a drunk driver, and they shut the highway down. Everyone, all the cars are there, and you kind of just are like,
1:17:34 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:17:34 Speaker 02 It's amazing.
1:17:35 Joe Rogan? This is all for me.
1:17:36 Speaker 02 We did this.
1:17:37 Joe Rogan? Fuck you. It's kind of weird.
1:17:39 Speaker 02 You guys aren't picking your kids up.
1:17:40 Joe Rogan? Yeah, sorry.
1:17:42 Speaker 02 Because this drunk driver decided to hit me.
1:17:43 Joe Rogan? Oh, guess you're gonna shit your pants. Sorry. Not gonna make it home in time.
1:17:48 Speaker 02 That's true.
1:17:49 Joe Rogan? Fuck yeah, it's true.
1:17:50 Speaker 02 I had a drunk driver hit my car, and then asked me if I would help them push their car off the highway.
1:17:55 Joe Rogan? Oh, that's adorable.
1:17:56 Speaker 02 Yeah, he was so wrecked.
1:17:57 Joe Rogan? How drunk was he?
1:17:58 Speaker 02 I don't know. He, he went away in handcuffs, but like, he had an Audi, and he, it wasn't even his car.
1:18:03 Joe Rogan? Oh, Jesus.
1:18:05 Speaker 02 He was undocumented.
1:18:06 Joe Rogan? Oh, Jesus.
1:18:07 Speaker 02 I don't even know if, did he have a license? I don't know, but he was, it was crazy, the whole situation. He was like, hey, can you push me off the highway? I was like, probably not.
1:18:14 Joe Rogan? God damn, dude. That's how people die, too. Buddy of mine from high school died that way. He was changing his tire side of a highway.
1:18:22 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
1:18:22 Joe Rogan? Yeah. It's so dangerous. People don't fucking pay attention.
1:18:26 Speaker 02 They don't, especially if it's late at night.
1:18:27 Joe Rogan? Well, especially now. This was many years ago, before cell phones, when this kid died. But this, like, now? The odds are, like, when I see people on motorcycles, I'm like, god damn, that's so risky.
1:18:39 Speaker 02 It's very risky.
1:18:40 Joe Rogan? So few people are paying attention. I see people texting all the time.
1:18:44 Speaker 02 Everyone is texting all the time. I would rather drive with drunk drivers than people texting and driving. Cause they're always all over the road.
1:18:50 Joe Rogan? All over the road, and not only that, the amount of space you cover. While you look down at your phone for like a couple of seconds and type in a word. The amount of space you cover if you're going sixty miles an hour is really crazy.
1:19:02 Speaker 02 Of course, and then you're also not paying attention to the other people who are texting and driving.
1:19:06 Joe Rogan? Exactly.
1:19:06 Speaker 02 It really is just like.
1:19:08 Joe Rogan? Chaos.
1:19:09 Speaker 02 Maybe I'll get home, maybe I won't.
1:19:11 Joe Rogan? Why don't we all have bumper cars? Let me ask you that.
1:19:14 Speaker 02 I think, um.
1:19:15 Joe Rogan? Wouldn't it be better if everybody had a big rubber thing all around the outside of the car? So we could just kind of bounce off of each other?
1:19:21 Speaker 02 Probably, that would be a good idea, but then you also need people to die, cause like we're just too overpopulated.
1:19:26 Joe Rogan? That's where fentanyl comes in.
1:19:27 Speaker 02 Fentanyl, exactly. Give everyone fentanyl.
1:19:32 Joe Rogan? Um, like if you were gonna fix the homeless problem and you weren't gonna use fentanyl, what would you do?
1:19:39 Speaker 02 I'm giving them fentanyl, cause it's like a nice way to go out.
1:19:41 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:19:42 Speaker 02 It's quick.
1:19:43 Joe Rogan? It is quick.
1:19:43 Speaker 02 And you're so happy, and then you're dead.
1:19:45 Joe Rogan? They have Narcan everywhere though, they just bring people back to life. But the thing is, it's like.
1:19:49 Speaker 02 I never see Narcan anywhere.
1:19:51 Joe Rogan? If you weren't going to, like if you, like for real, if you were trying, if you were just objective. You weren't looking at this in terms of like what's the kind thing to do, and you wanted to clean up the homeless situation.
1:20:02 Speaker 02 Well, you have to spend a lot of money on mental health.
1:20:05 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:20:05 Speaker 02 You know, you have to like care about the veterans. I like, I have a whole joke about this on my special about how like we don't really care about veterans. And I've dated a lot of them, a lot of veterans that like come back and they're so screwed up.
1:20:16 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:20:16 Speaker 02 And we're not like actually helping them.
1:20:19 Joe Rogan? No.
1:20:19 Speaker 02 And a lot of them end up on the street and they're crazy, but they need like a lot of, you know, like mental health and they have to. You have to like kind of figure out how to go back into society.
1:20:29 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah.
1:20:30 Speaker 02 Like I've dated several veterans and like they're crazy understandably, you know?
1:20:34 Joe Rogan? Understandable.
1:20:35 Speaker 02 You can't go to war for like eight years and then come back and work at Target. Like it's just not a way that that happens.
1:20:40 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:20:41 Speaker 02 So you would have to be willing to like help veterans, you'd have to spend money on mental health and you have that. But this is the problem is like doing those things doesn't really yield a lot of money. So people don't want to waste their money into it.
1:20:51 Joe Rogan? That's what's fucked up.
1:20:52 Speaker 02 Right.
1:20:53 Joe Rogan? They do whatever they can get away with. And if they get away with like using the veterans and not paying for them to be better, they just do.
1:21:00 Speaker 02 Also, everyone's like, well, they can go to a VA hospital. It's like, I've seen how hard it is to get services from there and that's a person that's not really crazy and messed up from war.
1:21:09 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:21:09 Speaker 02 So it's like you're making it so hard for these people that go and serve the country.
1:21:13 Joe Rogan? I know.
1:21:15 Joe Rogan? I talked to J D Vance about this. Talked to him about psychedelics.
1:21:19 Speaker 02 What did he say?
1:21:20 Joe Rogan? Well, he wasn't aware of it, honestly. And so he was interested in it. And hopefully, um, now that he's actually the vice president, I could connect him with some people that could, um, perhaps show him some things and explain to him, uh, all the different ways that they've figured out, especially in other countries like in Mexico, to help veterans. Um, Ibogaine's a big one. Ibogaine, psilocybin, ayahuasca, all these different psychedelics have shown to have remarkable effects.
1:21:48 Speaker 02 Even for depression, I think people take it. They microdose.
1:21:51 Joe Rogan? Yep. Well, not just microdose, like the, the Ibogaine one is, I've never done that, but what I understand, it's like, almost like a 24 hour, you want some more? It's like a 24 hour experience.
1:22:04 Speaker 02 Thank you.
1:22:04 Joe Rogan? That shows you like a movie of your life.
1:22:08 Speaker 02 I don't want to see that.
1:22:09 Joe Rogan? If it shows you, well, it shows you apparently, and I'm, this is just me hearing what other people have told me. But it explains to you why you have these problems and shows to you what, what developed, where the, the issue started.
1:22:22 Speaker 02 Hmm.
1:22:23 Joe Rogan? And by seeing that, you could figure it out. You go, oh, okay. Well, I won't do that anymore. Now I get it. Now I get what this hole I've been trying to fill is.
1:22:32 Speaker 02 Mm hmm.
1:22:33 Joe Rogan? I don't need to fill the hole anymore.
1:22:34 Speaker 02 I don't, but that's the thing, like, I feel like I know what was like probably wrong in my childhood. I know that, but it doesn't like. Fix me.
1:22:40 Joe Rogan? Right, it's different. Um, it's not just knowing it. It's like seeing it at almost like a subatomic level.
1:22:49 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:22:50 Joe Rogan? Seeing the process, seeing what's going on inside of you and recognize that this is a very bad path to follow. Not just knowing it and still doing it, not just like not being able to get out of a habit, not being able to get out of a pattern of behavior. But to see like the source of it, the path, where it takes you, and the right way to go. And to see it laid out, where you go, oh, I could just do this and just like let that go and move on and be a better person, be a healthier person, be happier.
1:23:20 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:23:21 Joe Rogan? And so many people that I know have done that. They've stopped drinking, stopped opiates. You know, opioids is a big one. It's a big one that it helps. Ibogaine does. And ibogaine is like completely non-addictive. Apparently it's a terrible experience and nobody wants to do it again.
1:23:36 Speaker 02 Ibogaine?
1:23:37 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you do it.
1:23:38 Speaker 02 What is it?
1:23:38 Joe Rogan? It's from the aboga tree, which is an African tree that had, it's a very bizarre, I don't know what category of psychedelic it's in, but it's not technically, it's not like psilocybin, it's not, which is mushrooms, it's not like dimethyltryptamine, which is ayahuasca. It's something completely different, some different pathway, but particularly effective. Again, I've never tried it, but everybody I've talked to that has, particularly effective in curing addictions.
1:24:08 Speaker 02 Interesting. I've never heard of that.
1:24:10 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I know quite a few guys. My friend Ed Clay, he actually opened up a place in Mexico because he hurt his back. He's a jujitsu guy. A lot of jujitsu guys fuck their backs up, like my back's all fucked up. And then you go to, yeah, you get an operation or you get a pill. You know, you need some pain pills because you literally can't tie your shoes because your fucking back is flared up. And the next thing you know, you're hooked. And thanks to the Sackler family, those sweeties.
1:24:36 Speaker 02 They made so much money though.
1:24:37 Joe Rogan? Those fucking monsters. We were just talking the other day about they, they started the Valium thing too. They were responsible for the Valium thing in the 1970s. Same family. It's a family of demons.
1:24:49 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:24:50 Joe Rogan? Just fucking monsters and no one's in jail.
1:24:54 Speaker 02 I watched a documentary, I guess it was about the Sackler family with-
1:24:57 Joe Rogan? Was it the Netflix one?
1:24:58 Speaker 02 I don't know, there was a couple, there was one on I think Hulu and there were, or, and then there was one also on Netflix.
1:25:03 Joe Rogan? Yeah, there was Dope Sick-
1:25:05 Speaker 02 I watched Dope Sick, that was very good.
1:25:06 Joe Rogan? What was the Netflix one, one called, Jamie? Painkiller? Is that what it's called? That's the Peter Berg one. Peter Berg came in and explained it all to us and talked about the documentary. It's fucking great. It's so good because it's like, they're such demons. And just to know that people like that exist and walk amongst us. That's it, Painkiller.
1:25:27 Speaker 02 Well, listen, speaking of Netflix, go watch-
1:25:28 Joe Rogan? Matthew Broderick fucking kills it in that too.
1:25:31 Speaker 02 Go watch my Netflix special.
1:25:32 Joe Rogan? Yes!
1:25:33 Speaker 02 The Dark Queen.
1:25:34 Joe Rogan? The Netflix special. Tell her, where'd you film it?
1:25:36 Speaker 02 We filmed it at The Cellar.
1:25:37 Joe Rogan? Oh, nice. Nice. That must be good for you, right? Comfortable?
1:25:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, just because I'm used to it, but I gotta tell you, like, your club is amazing. I love it.
1:25:44 Joe Rogan? Thank you.
1:25:45 Speaker 02 I would definitely film something-
1:25:46 Joe Rogan? Well, we love you too.
1:25:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, I would definitely film my next one there.
1:25:48 Joe Rogan? Everyone's been trying to get you to move here.
1:25:50 Speaker 02 I'm gonna be moving here.
1:25:52 Joe Rogan? Oh shit!
1:25:52 Speaker 02 I'm gonna come here, um, probably like a little bit in December, then I'm going to LA to promote The Dark Queen, and then I'll be here in January.
1:25:59 Joe Rogan? Oh shit!
1:26:00 Speaker 02 I know.
1:26:01 Joe Rogan? Nice!
1:26:02 Speaker 02 And I'll be seeing Marshall all the time.
1:26:04 Joe Rogan? So the last time I talked to you about this was in the bar at Mitzi's. You, me, and Bridget.
1:26:07 Speaker 02 That's right.
1:26:08 Joe Rogan? Do we help?
1:26:08 Speaker 02 Ari's been like-
1:26:09 Joe Rogan? Do we push over the top?
1:26:10 Speaker 02 Well, Ari, Ari was like, said the meanest thing to me.
1:26:13 Joe Rogan? Wanna see the text that Ari sent me?
1:26:14 Speaker 02 Sure, yeah.
1:26:15 Joe Rogan? He sent me a text, like, Adrian's coming to Austin, convince her to move there.
1:26:19 Speaker 02 He's telling everyone that. He's like, he goes, "Well, fine, just be a feature the rest of your life." I was like, "All right, Ari, I get it."
1:26:28 Joe Rogan? I'll find it.
1:26:31 Joe Rogan? Fuck, there's too many, there's too many goddamn-
1:26:34 Speaker 02 But Ari, Ari's excited for the special, he's like, "I think everyone's gonna be really upset." I was like, "I hope so." I, listen, I want people to like it, but I also know that, like, it's triggered topics that people are gonna be upset by.
1:26:46 Joe Rogan? Of course, but that's your specialty.
1:26:48 Speaker 02 I know. It's weird to-
1:26:50 Joe Rogan? You like doing that.
1:26:50 Speaker 02 But that's the thing, I think people think I'm trying to like, be dark, it's just kinda who I am.
1:26:56 Joe Rogan? Well, you joke around like that offstage as well.
1:26:59 Speaker 02 Right!
1:27:00 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:27:00 Speaker 02 Like, and I think nothing of saying it.
1:27:02 Joe Rogan? Well, if you were raised by a guy who took you to a smoke-filled off-track betting when you were a little girl, when little girls wanna go to the park-
1:27:09 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:27:10 Joe Rogan? And hang with their friends, and instead you're around a bunch of fucking gamblers and degenerates.
1:27:13 Speaker 02 I mean, yeah, my uncle was a-
1:27:15 Joe Rogan? That's the kinda humor.
1:27:16 Speaker 02 My uncle was a hell's angel. Like, it's just my whole, everyone's crazy in my family.
1:27:19 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:27:20 Speaker 02 So it's like-
1:27:21 Joe Rogan? It's the way you make fun.
1:27:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, and I had a friend in grammar school that killed himself and we all went to the funeral and then went out after and all of our sense of humor is so dark. And you're like, oh, that's also where I got it.
1:27:32 Joe Rogan? Where was this?
1:27:33 Speaker 02 Uh, in the Bronx.
1:27:34 Joe Rogan? The Bronx, yeah. Well, the Bronx is, that's a high sense of humor type of place, because there's just so much fucked up things going on.
1:27:40 Speaker 02 Right, and everyone's like kinda poor.
1:27:42 Joe Rogan? Yeah, and they have the darkest senses of humor, because they've experienced the most.
1:27:46 Speaker 02 My mom also has a dark sense of humor.
1:27:48 Joe Rogan? Really?
1:27:49 Speaker 02 Yeah. So like, it's, it's just that's kind of passed down, I think.
1:27:54 Joe Rogan? Well, I think your mom probably experienced a lot of fucked up things too, obviously, and she was married to your dad, so that helps.
1:27:59 Speaker 02 She married to my dad.
1:28:01 Joe Rogan? Cops have the most fucked up sense of humor. Joke around with cops. Once they get comfortable with you.
1:28:06 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
1:28:06 Joe Rogan? They see the worst shit all day long.
1:28:10 Speaker 02 Of course.
1:28:11 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they have the most fucked up senses of humor.
1:28:13 Speaker 02 So do firemen.
1:28:14 Joe Rogan? A hundred percent, yep.
1:28:16 Speaker 02 Anyone that has like a high PTSD, anyone that has a high P, what is it, PTSD?
1:28:21 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:28:21 Speaker 02 And I date a lot of guys with PTSD.
1:28:23 Joe Rogan? That's your thing?
1:28:23 Speaker 02 And I just give them more. It's a cycle of PTSD. All should be hospitalized and institutionalized.
1:28:30 Joe Rogan? Do you meet guys after shows? Like, how do you meet them? Like, they kinda have to know what you do before they see you, otherwise they're gonna go, oh, Jesus Christ.
1:28:38 Speaker 02 I mean, I've had people like that, I think the tour preparing for the special was hard because it was just people coming out that didn't know my sense of humor. And if you don't know that and you're taking a chance on me, I'm not like that person to take a chance on.
1:28:51 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:28:52 Speaker 02 Or I think sometimes they're like supporting a woman and I'm like, I'm not the right woman to take a chance on and support.
1:28:59 Speaker 02 You're just not gonna be happy.
1:29:01 Joe Rogan? He's gonna be so mad at you.
1:29:03 Speaker 02 I've had people walk out. I did that military joke in Texas.
1:29:06 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:29:07 Speaker 02 And like twenty cowboys just walked out. And I wasn't even saying anything bad about the military. I'm like, we just don't care. We don't care about them.
1:29:15 Joe Rogan? Some people are just dumb and they see it as they're, this is my chance to make a protest, let me just get up right now.
1:29:20 Speaker 02 But they, they hung in so long through the show, whereas like.
1:29:24 Joe Rogan? That one was it?
1:29:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was probably fifty minutes in.
1:29:27 Joe Rogan? Did you crack jokes about Jesus at all?
1:29:29 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:29:30 Joe Rogan? And they were fine with that? Maybe they were on the edge.
1:29:32 Speaker 02 They didn't walk.
1:29:33 Joe Rogan? Maybe Jesus put them to the edge of their sheet.
1:29:35 Speaker 02 It's, it's interesting because both sides have woke things they're upset about.
1:29:39 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah.
1:29:39 Speaker 02 You know? I walk people about Ukraine, the Middle East. I was doing jokes about the Middle East and this lady was like, next.
1:29:45 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:29:47 Speaker 02 And you're like, no.
1:29:48 Joe Rogan? I used to have this joke about the Second Coming Project.
1:29:51 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
1:29:51 Joe Rogan? The second, do you know what the Second Coming Project was?
1:29:53 Speaker 02 No.
1:29:54 Joe Rogan? It was a thing that they were trying to do, remember when Dolly the Sheep, when they first cloned Dolly the Sheep?
1:29:58 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:29:59 Joe Rogan? Well, the idea was that they would take genetic material from the Shroud of Turin and they would clone Jesus.
1:30:06 Speaker 02 Great, do it.
1:30:07 Joe Rogan? And my joke was, well, cloning is not an exact science. Like, if you want to do it now, like, they had to do like twenty dollies before they got one dolly, like, before it was real. A lot of them come out all fucked up, like, what happens if you clone Jesus and he comes back with Down Syndrome? And so this, the whole joke is about-
1:30:23 Speaker 02 You kill him anyway, you have to kill Jesus.
1:30:25 Joe Rogan? Following Jesus around and he's, you know, wearing a hockey helmet and turning dog shit into cookies.
1:30:30 Speaker 02 So did they actually do it?
1:30:31 Joe Rogan? No, they never did it.
1:30:32 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
1:30:33 Joe Rogan? It, it, it's kind of a bullshit thing, but, um, this lady goes, "Next subject!", and I just kept going on with it. I was like, no.
1:30:41 Speaker 02 Religious people are so weird to me.
1:30:42 Joe Rogan? It's not even a religious thing, it's just some people just, they, they don't want to hear wild things. They want to, don't want to hear things you're not supposed to say, they don't hear them all day at work.
1:30:52 Speaker 02 That's fine.
1:30:52 Joe Rogan? And they come out in a comedy club and they want to sort of apply their sensibility.
1:30:57 Speaker 02 But like, if you're willing to believe a wild story like that, how about believe this other wild thing could happen too?
1:31:02 Joe Rogan? Well, the thing is, it's not, it wasn't totally a wild story, I think it was people that were ignorant as to the science, um, that were proposing it because they thought this would be the pathway to bring Jesus back.
1:31:14 Speaker 02 What is Jesus gonna be doing anyway?
1:31:17 Joe Rogan? Well, who knows? I mean, depending upon what that means, right? If that is the pathway, let's, let's just imagine, okay, everybody is thinking, um, if you're really religious, you believe that one day we'll have the rapture and Jesus will return.
1:31:31 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:31:32 Joe Rogan? So, if God created us in His image and God instilled in us an insane sense of curiosity that has led people to create things like genetic engineering and cloning. And then we have an understanding of genetic material, not where we are now, but maybe in a future sense, where you could literally get a cotton swab from a person and reproduce them.
1:31:56 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:31:56 Joe Rogan? Like, they, that's all they need, or cotton swab's all they need for twenty-three and mate, right? You get a little swab in your mouth and they sell your data to China. And then, but that-
1:32:06 Speaker 02 I would never do that.
1:32:07 Joe Rogan? I did it, I just wanted to know what was going on, it was all things I knew.
1:32:10 Speaker 02 What did you find out?
1:32:11 Joe Rogan? Um, mostly Italian, um, some Irish, uh, one percent Asian, one point six percent African.
1:32:18 Speaker 02 You're eight, one percent Asian?
1:32:19 Joe Rogan? One percent Asian, one point six percent African, yeah. I would think the Asians probably like Genghis Khan shit. I think Genghis Khan just fucked so many people. It's just gotten to so many people, so many different places.
1:32:28 Speaker 02 Crazy.
1:32:29 Joe Rogan? It's crazy, yeah. That guy fucked everybody. He had, um, there, we've talked about it before, but I always forget the number. There's a certain percentage of people on earth that have his DNA and it's astounding. It's an astounding number.
1:32:42 Speaker 02 Pretty cool.
1:32:43 Joe Rogan? Well, he also killed ten percent of the population while he was alive.
1:32:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, and that's why he was like repopulating them.
1:32:49 Joe Rogan? Well, took a lot of slaves, sex slaves. They called, called them wives back in those days. It was different. But when they would conquer people, he'd just take their wives, take everybody's wife.
1:32:58 Speaker 02 I mean, it sounds like the thing you should do.
1:33:00 Joe Rogan? That was his move.
1:33:03 Speaker 02 It's not bad.
1:33:04 Joe Rogan? It's interesting that all these years later, and you know, he's thought, he's not thought of as a monster. He's thought of as like a historic figure.
1:33:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean.
1:33:11 Joe Rogan? He was Hitler times a hundred, like.
1:33:13 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:33:13 Joe Rogan? He was fucking insane, like, they, they used to light bodies on fire and then use them as catapults. They would, uh, launch them onto roofs to burn the roofs down. That's, uh, that's how they would scare people, just take victims.
1:33:26 Speaker 02 Crazy, a crazy way of like doing that.
1:33:29 Joe Rogan? They did so many insane things. One of the things they did was when they would capture a city, they would take the generals and the, all the, all the different people. And they would, um, create a platform and lay all these people out and then stack the platform on top of them. Then they would all climb on top of the platform and eat. So they would eat lunch while they were crushing these people to death slowly.
1:33:54 Speaker 02 That's crazy. Were the people dead already?
1:33:56 Joe Rogan? No, no, no. They killed them that way. Yeah. I think that's how he killed royals. That was his, his move for killing royal people. Like, instead of just slaughtering them outright and hacking them, they would just kind of crush them. They had a bunch of different ways that they would kill people. They would take, um, when they would capture people, they would use those people a- at the front of the line and push them towards their own army. So they would sack a city, capture a hundred thousand people, take those hundred thousand people and put them at the front line and press them to go further into the city. And those people would just get slaughtered in front of them and they would eventually. Kill everybody there.
1:34:32 Speaker 02 It's crazy.
1:34:33 Joe Rogan? It was so crazy that there's a guy named Dan Carlin. He's got an amazing show called Hardcore History. And he's got this one episode called The Wrath of the Khan. It's not, it's five episodes, but this one series. And it's all about Genghis Khan. And one of the stories is about the Shah of Chorisma. Um, this Shah is making a, he's making a trek to Jin China to like, to see like, what's going on over there. Like, what do you guys got? Talk to the king and see what's happening in your, whoever the fuck's running your city. And as they're going there, um, the roads were so fucked up with decayed bodies that they had abandoned the roads because all their wagons were getting stuck in the mud of decaying people.
1:35:15 Joe Rogan? And they looked in the distance, they thought it was a snow-covered mountain that they were looking at way in the distance. It turns out it was a pile of bodies. They'd killed a million people and just stacked them on top of each other in the middle of the town. They killed the entire city. They killed everyone.
1:35:30 Speaker 02 That's crazy and there's no one to clean up the bodies.
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1:37:38 Speaker 02 It's wild.
1:37:42 Joe Rogan? Imagine living back then.
1:37:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, I know. Your wheelbarrow is getting stuck in someone's head.
1:37:47 Joe Rogan? I know, yeah. If people were taking gender studies in class today, back then, back then, they were fucking just running for their lives.
1:37:57 Speaker 02 It's crazy.
1:37:58 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:38:00 Speaker 02 I guess that we get to do stuff that's sometimes so dumb and like people are like just fighting to stay alive.
1:38:05 Joe Rogan? Well, it's also interesting that like over time that becomes less and less acceptable. Like the horrors of Gaza, when we find out about it today, like everyone's outraged. Back then, wouldn't be the same type of horrors, obviously, because they didn't have missiles. But horrors are just horrors.
1:38:21 Speaker 02 Sure, yeah. You're just killing people.
1:38:24 Joe Rogan? Yeah. And so it's way grosser today.
1:38:27 Speaker 02 Well, it's because we also have photos and everything of it, right?
1:38:30 Joe Rogan? From like- Back then, they, they saw it in real life, which is way worse.
1:38:35 Speaker 02 But you had to be there to see it, right?
1:38:37 Joe Rogan? Right. But if you were alive in 1200, let's imagine you and I were alive in 1200. How many people do you think we would have seen get slaughtered with swords and arrows and shit in front of us by now?
1:38:47 Speaker 02 Probably a ton. It becomes desensitized, do it.
1:38:50 Joe Rogan? It becomes a, it becomes a thing.
1:38:52 Speaker 02 Like when I first started watching The Walking, uh, what is it?
1:38:54 Joe Rogan? Yeah, Walking Dead.
1:38:55 Speaker 02 Walking Dead, you're like, I can't believe they just did that. And then two episodes in, you're like, oh, this is normal to me. And it's gotta be kind of what it would have been like back then. You watch someone's head get blown off and now you're like- Oh yeah, that's just like a Tuesday.
1:39:08 Joe Rogan? Yeah, people get real accustomed to things and if you're real accustomed to barbaric living and slaughtering people and fire and launching them and catapults onto the thatched roofs of these houses and watch them burn.
1:39:21 Speaker 02 Right, you can't imagine not doing that if that's all you say.
1:39:24 Joe Rogan? It's what you do.
1:39:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:39:25 Joe Rogan? That's what we do.
1:39:26 Speaker 02 That's just what we do.
1:39:27 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they didn't wash, they wore their clothes until they rotted off of their skin.
1:39:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, I think if they're like catapulting dead bodies, it's like who cares what you're wearing.
1:39:37 Joe Rogan? Sometimes they just lived off the blood of their horses. They would just drink the horse's blood and that's what they sustain themselves with.
1:39:44 Speaker 02 But then you just need your horse to like travel.
1:39:47 Joe Rogan? Horse keeps eating, you don't kill them. You just cut a little nick in their neck.
1:39:50 Speaker 02 And you just suck a horse's blood?
1:39:53 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that's what they would do. They would take it and put it in a jug.
1:39:55 Speaker 02 You really could survive, like if you were just somewhere by yourself. You, I don't think I could, but I think you could survive.
1:40:04 Joe Rogan? I would need stuff.
1:40:05 Speaker 02 You need a horse.
1:40:06 Joe Rogan? You need stuff. You need, you need physical things, like you need shelter and knives and you need something you start a fire with. You need something that you can hunt with.
1:40:16 Speaker 02 But if I had that same stuff, I would be dead and you would thrive.
1:40:20 Joe Rogan? I wouldn't thrive.
1:40:22 Speaker 02 You would survive.
1:40:23 Joe Rogan? For a little while.
1:40:24 Speaker 02 I didn't know you could drink horse's blood.
1:40:25 Joe Rogan? Yeah, but you gotta keep that horse alive and then you have, the horse is gonna die.
1:40:32 Joe Rogan? The horses don't eat meat.
1:40:34 Speaker 02 They don't?
1:40:35 Joe Rogan? No, they do occasionally eat birds.
1:40:37 Speaker 02 What if they're starving? They won't eat like a person?
1:40:40 Joe Rogan? No, no, they're not interested in rotting bodies. They're, they're herbivores, but they do occasionally eat birds. There's this really fucked up, uh, video of this horse following this bir- or it's a cow, following this bird around. I've seen horses do it too, where they found like a ground nesting bird and they just eat it. And the mother bird's like flying at them, pecking at them, like shut the fuck up, I'm eating your baby.
1:41:04 Speaker 02 At least she tried.
1:41:05 Joe Rogan? Deer do it all the time. Deer do it, it's so bad, like they had this net that they use to catch birds. And the deer found the birds in the net. And so the deer would just go up to the net and feast like, like a grapevine.
1:41:20 Speaker 02 Right, like a buffet.
1:41:21 Joe Rogan? Eat all these birds. And that's when we started understanding that if a deer catches a bird, slip it and they just eat them.
1:41:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, why wouldn't you?
1:41:28 Joe Rogan? Because they eat plants.
1:41:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, but like a bird is kind of like caviar to them, probably.
1:41:33 Joe Rogan? Probably.
1:41:34 Speaker 02 They're like, mm, delicious.
1:41:35 Joe Rogan? Yes, a little foie gras.
1:41:38 Speaker 02 Don't mind if I do.
1:41:40 Joe Rogan? Yeah, have you ever seen cows eat birds?
1:41:43 Speaker 02 No.
1:41:43 Joe Rogan? Find a video of cows eating birds.
1:41:45 Speaker 02 I've only seen cows eat, eat grass.
1:41:46 Joe Rogan? And they eat birds. It disturbs the shit out of people who are like peaceful. They're like, you know, I think the less suffering we have, the better.
1:41:53 Speaker 02 But also a bird can fly away, it's kind of their fault.
1:41:57 Joe Rogan? Well, not babies.
1:41:59 Speaker 02 Survival of the fittest, you're dead. You're now dead.
1:42:01 Joe Rogan? It's probably nature's way of keeping baby birds from overwhelming us.
1:42:05 Speaker 02 Why wouldn't you put your bird dust higher? It's on the mom.
1:42:08 Joe Rogan? Look at this, look at this cow.
1:42:10 Speaker 02 Oh yeah, he's going right into his mouth.
1:42:12 Joe Rogan? Yep, chomp, chomp, chomp. Oh yum, yum, yum. Isn't it so weird that they decide that they want to eat that? Just weird. It's weird that they just decide, look at the little kid.
1:42:22 Speaker 02 Right, why wouldn't you just eat the kid?
1:42:23 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:42:24 Speaker 02 If you're gonna eat that bird.
1:42:25 Joe Rogan? Kid comes with people, people have guns. They figure it out after a while.
1:42:28 Speaker 02 You think so? They know the guns are coming?
1:42:30 Joe Rogan? They know that people can kill them. I definitely think they know the people are in control. I don't think they feel a sense of power where they're gonna attack the kid.
1:42:36 Speaker 02 Also, you can eat that kid in one gulp.
1:42:39 Joe Rogan? Right, people are gonna know.
1:42:40 Speaker 02 Right.
1:42:41 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:42:41 Speaker 02 If you could just eat it in one gulp.
1:42:43 Joe Rogan? Yeah, but you just swallow the kid. I don't want to have any good. She says I ate, I didn't eat nothing.
1:42:48 Speaker 02 I'll help you look.
1:42:49 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:42:50 Speaker 02 Let's all look. You have a shoe in your mouth.
1:42:53 Joe Rogan? I will help you look. Well, that was a legitimate concern for people hundreds of years ago. Your, your kid would get eaten.
1:43:00 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:43:00 Joe Rogan? If it was out in the yard, wolves, I mean, that's like the big bad wolf, that's what all that shit was. Little red riding horse.
1:43:05 Speaker 02 Imagine like your kid survives cholera and then it just gets eaten.
1:43:11 Speaker 02 I can't believe that.
1:43:13 Joe Rogan? Right, like that's not even that long ago that people were dying of cholera.
1:43:16 Speaker 02 How many years you think that was?
1:43:17 Joe Rogan? Oh, who knows? I mean, how many different fucking diseases killed people just because of poor sanitation? That's what a lot of that stuff came from.
1:43:24 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:43:25 Joe Rogan? A lot of that stuff came from poor sanitation. I mean, just think about how many people were just dying in these cities because of the plague, because they'd throw their shit out the windows.
1:43:36 Speaker 02 I mean.
1:43:36 Joe Rogan? And there'd be rats and bugs.
1:43:38 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think I would learn pretty quickly if I threw my shit out the window once that like that's not great.
1:43:44 Joe Rogan? I think you would think that, but there's people in India that shit in the street to this day.
1:43:48 Speaker 02 I mean, I watched a video where there's like a parade and they're just throwing shit. Like, that's part of the parade.
1:43:53 Joe Rogan? That doesn't... Is that in India?
1:43:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:43:56 Speaker 03 Cow dung festival or something.
1:43:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:43:58 Joe Rogan? Oh, cow shit's like a different kind of shit. It's gross, but it's not like human shit. Human shit is the nastiest shit.
1:44:04 Speaker 02 I'm sure you don't think anyone's mixing human shit in at this dung festival?
1:44:06 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I bet they're not.
1:44:08 Speaker 02 I bet they're like, hey, let's spice it up.
1:44:10 Joe Rogan? Yeah, but it's not pure, dog.
1:44:11 Speaker 03 It's not as clean as you think, maybe.
1:44:12 Joe Rogan? Oh, Jesus Christ, just throwing at each other. Imagine, like, this is what you sign up for and they're all smiling?
1:44:18 Speaker 02 I don't get the appeal.
1:44:20 Joe Rogan? Oh, I don't know. Maybe how like, you know, if you eat a lot of sugar, you get that candida, and maybe if you play with shit enough, you get that shit bacteria.
1:44:31 Speaker 02 I mean, their teeth look so white because they're covered in shit.
1:44:34 Joe Rogan? They're just covered in shit. Guys, shower up, this is ridiculous. We had to deal with the infections from the cow dung.
1:44:43 Speaker 02 How are they not... What is going on here?
1:44:46 Joe Rogan? We won't get any infections from the cow dung, he says. Wait, what does he say? What was his statement?
1:44:51 Speaker 03 Because of the coronavirus and other viruses.
1:44:52 Joe Rogan? But back it up before that? Okay, here. Heaps of cow dung are brought in one place, we all play in it. We have had to deal with the coronavirus and other viruses.
1:45:05 Joe Rogan? So we believe we won't get any infections from the cow dung.
1:45:08 Speaker 02 I mean, you see this and then you're like, you know what, it's not that bad that we're doing unboxing videos.
1:45:13 Joe Rogan? I mean, these are kind of, these guys are basically content creators.
1:45:17 Speaker 02 They are content creators, but they don't know that. They don't know that we're watching these videos. I mean, can you imagine just being in there and just throwing shit at someone?
1:45:27 Joe Rogan? How do they not know now, though?
1:45:30 Speaker 02 I don't know. I don't think that's an old video either.
1:45:33 Joe Rogan? Do you see when, um, like, they give Amazon Tribes Starlink and they give them phones?
1:45:38 Speaker 02 You said Amazon, I just thought of Amazon, like, that I order stuff from.
1:45:40 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah. Not the other one.
1:45:43 Speaker 02 I just want regular Amazon that brings, I order stuff from Amazon that's like a three dollar thing and somebody's driving to my house and dropping off, like, whatever it is, floss.
1:45:53 Joe Rogan? They figured it out. I never buy toothbrushes from the fucking store. I just click a link. Bam.
1:45:59 Speaker 02 But it's like so, I'm spending such little money for stuff that someone's driving to my house to drop it off.
1:46:05 Joe Rogan? Eventually, it's just gonna be drones.
1:46:08 Speaker 02 I mean,
1:46:10 Speaker 02 drop it off at your head.
1:46:11 Joe Rogan? Drop it off at your house. And then there's people that's, that's the, those are some of the grossest people, people that steal people's packages.
1:46:17 Speaker 02 Especially during the holidays.
1:46:19 Joe Rogan? You don't even know what's in there.
1:46:21 Speaker 02 But that's the fun you get and you're like, this could be a TV. This could be an iPhone, it could all, it could also just be toothbrushes.
1:46:29 Joe Rogan? There's so many funny videos of people getting busted, you know?
1:46:32 Speaker 02 I've, I've seen them, yeah. People just stealing videos for like Christmas.
1:46:36 Joe Rogan? If you live in a neighborhood where someone steals your packages, that's such a shitty feeling. There's fucking people in your neighborhood that are clocking what's getting dropped off at your house.
1:46:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:46:46 Joe Rogan? Chris Rock used to have a bit about, um, putting, uh, if you bought a new TV, like, you had to be careful putting the box out on the street in the garbage, because people would know you have a new TV.
1:46:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:46:56 Joe Rogan? And then want to break in your house and steal your TV.
1:46:58 Speaker 02 I mean, now TVs are like worth nothing.
1:47:00 Joe Rogan? They're worth nothing. TVs, I remember in nineteen ninety-four, when I first moved here, I got a big TV for the first time. It was fucking big. It was like this big.
1:47:10 Speaker 02 Nineteen ninety-four was a great year.
1:47:11 Joe Rogan? It was like twenty-four inches. But it was like, yeah, to pick it up, like it was a giant ass TV, like it had a whole back to it.
1:47:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was humongous.
1:47:18 Joe Rogan? And then it was one of those years, like ninety-four, ninety-five, they came out with a plasma TV. And it was twenty thousand dollars. And it was like forty inches and flat. And because it was flat, it looked like shit, it didn't even look good. Because it was forty inches and flat, it was like twenty thousand dollars. I remember thinking, that is the dumbest thing, like, I'm paying twenty thousand dollars for this space behind the TV.
1:47:42 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:47:42 Joe Rogan? I don't give a fuck if there's space behind the TV.
1:47:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:47:45 Joe Rogan? There's like six feet between the TV and the wall, what do I give a fuck?
1:47:49 Speaker 02 I know.
1:47:49 Joe Rogan? There's an extra twelve inches of TV behind it? What are you, stupid? You're gonna pay twenty thousand dollars because it's flat?
1:47:56 Speaker 02 I guess people wanna hang it on the wall.
1:47:58 Joe Rogan? It was a thing to let people know you had it.
1:48:00 Speaker 02 Money.
1:48:01 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you had a plasma TV.
1:48:03 Speaker 02 Right.
1:48:03 Joe Rogan? See, if you can find a plasma TV from nineteen ninety-five-ish, they looked like shit. I think it was, must have been ninety-six, because that was when I first bought a house. They looked like shit. And they were twenty thousand dollars. I was like, this is crazy.
1:48:18 Speaker 02 They were so heavy, those big TVs.
1:48:20 Joe Rogan? Oh, giant. Might not have been twenty grand, I might be exaggerating, but it had to be like eight or nine. And this was like, again, ninety-five-ish. How much did they cost back then?
1:48:29 Speaker 02 I remember the, that TV right there, the silver one, where it like comes with its own stand, kind of?
1:48:35 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that one.
1:48:36 Speaker 02 That's where you go over to the person's house, that's, that person has the, uh, the Super Bowl party.
1:48:40 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you had to have friends help you carry that in. So it was Fujitsu in ninety-five. Fujitsu introduced the first forty-two inch, and it was how much money? Price. Uh, no, I had it right there, right there. Uh, sample price for the forty-two inch was one thousand, or one million yen. But Fujitsu aimed to sell it for about five hundred thousand yen per unit. What is that in dollars? What's one million yen?
1:49:10 Joe Rogan? In dollars.
1:49:11 Speaker 02 It's like fifteen thousand.
1:49:13 Joe Rogan? Six thousand, so six thousand five hundred bucks.
1:49:16 Speaker 02 That's still a lot of money.
1:49:17 Joe Rogan? Still a lot of money, so it wasn't twenty grand, I exaggerate.
1:49:19 Speaker 02 That's a lot of money still.
1:49:19 Joe Rogan? But it was just, the regular TV was like a hundred. Like, what, how much is a regular TV? It wasn't that much money. But if you had that, you were the man, like, oh, Bobby must be doing really well in Hollywood, look at this.
1:49:32 Speaker 02 Look at that TV.
1:49:34 Joe Rogan? Flat screen television. Oh, ten grand. By the year two thousand, prices had dropped to ten grand. Oh, prices had dropped to ten grand.
1:49:41 Speaker 02 So maybe it was twenty thousand.
1:49:43 Joe Rogan? Hmm, interesting, see if it says up there, oh, fourteen, fifteen thousand. Okay, one of the first flat plasma TVs. I think it was a Philips that I saw. It was available at four Sears locations in the US for fifteen grand.
1:49:58 Speaker 02 Is there Sears anymore?
1:50:00 Joe Rogan? I don't know, I haven't seen a Sears forever.
1:50:02 Speaker 02 I remember when I was like a kid, I got like a Sears credit card and I just bought like my ex-boyfriend at the time, like rims for his car. And that's what you just spend your money on.
1:50:10 Joe Rogan? I don't even, I, Sears is almost like the Bernstein Bears effect. Like, the fact that you said Sears, I was like, oh, that's a thing? Like, I forgot about Sears. But how could that not be a thing? Like, Sears was huge.
1:50:25 Speaker 03 They still have a website.
1:50:27 Joe Rogan? Really?
1:50:28 Speaker 02 But, do they have any loc- there's no locations, though?
1:50:32 Speaker 03 No, I mean, it's giving me a store locator, but it's not showing me on that.
1:50:34 Joe Rogan? But that's a weird one, like Sears, like, that had left my memory, until this. And then you saying it, like, even though I said Sears, available at Sears.
1:50:44 Speaker 02 It didn't hit your head.
1:50:45 Joe Rogan? Then you started going Sears, oh, I remember Sears, and then I was like, oh, I remember Sears too.
1:50:51 Speaker 02 Do you remember Nobody Beats The Wiz? Do you remember that store?
1:50:53 Joe Rogan? Yes, yes. Do you remember Crazy Eddie's?
1:50:55 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:50:56 Joe Rogan? Crazy Eddie was actually crazy.
1:50:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:50:58 Joe Rogan? Turns out.
1:50:59 Speaker 03 There's nine left.
1:51:00 Joe Rogan? Oh, wow.
1:51:01 Speaker 03 One in Puerto Rico, eight on the mainland.
1:51:03 Joe Rogan? Interesting. We should take a road trip, just to go to a Sears.
1:51:08 Speaker 02 We should go to one in Puerto Rico.
1:51:10 Joe Rogan? We should bring Tony.
1:51:12 Speaker 02 Let's bring Tony. That'd be amazing. First of all, Puerto Ricans were not upset by that. I mean, I'm sure some were, but like, my friends were like, "I'm still voting for Trump."
1:51:20 Joe Rogan? Puerto Ricans can take a joke. They're some of the best shit talkers on earth.
1:51:25 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
1:51:26 Joe Rogan? It's common in Puerto Rican communities, just have fun and joke.
1:51:31 Speaker 02 Absolutely.
1:51:31 Joe Rogan? It's not a super sensitive neighborhood. It's a super sensitive ethnic group.
1:51:36 Speaker 02 No, but most people didn't care. They're like, "I don't care."
1:51:38 Joe Rogan? It was a stupid thing to do it there, but it turned him into a legend. As long as Trump won. If Trump didn't win, we were gonna have to hide him.
1:51:47 Speaker 02 For real?
1:51:47 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I was gonna hide him. I was gonna move him to Thailand or something.
1:51:50 Speaker 02 To Thailand?
1:51:51 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he's gotta get out of the United States for a while.
1:51:53 Speaker 02 For how long now?
1:51:54 Joe Rogan? A while. Depending on how bad sideways things go. If Kamala Harris becomes president, a deep state takeover, and they completely censor all social media, remove everybody's guns, force vaccinations on all your babies, everybody gets a sex change, who knows?
1:52:07 Speaker 02 And he's just in Thailand?
1:52:08 Joe Rogan? And he's in Thailand.
1:52:09 Speaker 02 With ladyboys?
1:52:10 Joe Rogan? Just drinking his life away because he can't believe he fucked it up for one shitty laugh.
1:52:16 Speaker 02 He could go live in Puerto Rico.
1:52:18 Joe Rogan? You know, there were stories that were ready to be published if Trump lost, blaming it on Tony.
1:52:23 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
1:52:24 Joe Rogan? Yeah, yeah. Blaming it on that one joke in Madison Square Garden, where the fact is, and Tony will tell you, "Actually, Puerto Ricans voted 26% more for Trump," which is true.
1:52:36 Speaker 02 They probably did.
1:52:37 Joe Rogan? Than ever before, yeah. Well, people were fucking fed up. People were fed up.
1:52:41 Speaker 02 I didn't even vote.
1:52:42 Joe Rogan? None of this makes any sense.
1:52:45 Speaker 02 I mean, I think honestly, most people right now, their main concern is like, they can't even afford groceries.
1:52:50 Joe Rogan? Exactly.
1:52:51 Speaker 02 So they're like, "Whoever I think is gonna help me with that." But, listen, I don't know what is true or not true, but like, people who are like, "I can't afford to feed my kids."
1:52:58 Joe Rogan? It is so crazy. I was watching this guy on MSNBC, and he was dismissing that in terms of like, when people think a certain way, like, people have like, if they're a leftist, or if they're a fundamentalist Christian... They have one thing in common, and that thing that they have in common is they want everyone to think like them.
1:53:19 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:53:19 Joe Rogan? And this guy was saying that about like young people listening to podcasts and they're getting air quotes radicalized. And that we need something that can do this from a feminist perspective.
1:53:33 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:53:34 Joe Rogan? And teach young men feminism. The whole thing was so strange, but one of the things that he said that was the most strange. He said, instead of like these minor grievances like the price of eggs or someone is teaching you some, your kid something in history that you don't agree with, instead of those minor thing, like what's major then, man? Food for kids.
1:53:56 Speaker 02 Also like history is just history.
1:53:58 Joe Rogan? And in history, well, you know, he said something you don't agree with, like what, I don't know what that means. But education is primary. It's one of the most important things for kids. You gotta, for their view of the world, they have to be correctly informed. It really helps if you have a good education.
1:54:13 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:54:14 Joe Rogan? And then if you have food, if you can afford eggs, that really fucking helps. And so this idea that these are minor issues and the important issue is connecting men to feminism.
1:54:25 Speaker 02 Listen, you can do that if you want, but like most people right now are like, I can't afford to pay for groceries for my kids. I don't even have kids, but like people are like, I can't afford to buy groceries.
1:54:34 Joe Rogan? Of course.
1:54:34 Speaker 02 People who are making more money now are like, I can't save any money.
1:54:37 Joe Rogan? Yes. Everything's more expensive. People are fucking out of touch. I'm clearly out of touch. Clearly. But I remember when I was poor. I understand it. I really do. And I know what the fuck is going on. And I know people are saying, hey, this isn't a minor deal. This is like one of the biggest deals. You guys fucked up the economy and you're gaslighting everybody and telling everybody you didn't. You guys have spent billions of dollars on a war that nobody agrees with, hundreds of billions. And you're gaslighting us.
1:55:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, I just also like these teachers that are just like spending all their own money for supplies. It's like, what are you doing?
1:55:12 Joe Rogan? Crazy.
1:55:13 Speaker 02 Why do teachers not have supplies for kids?
1:55:15 Joe Rogan? Right.
1:55:16 Speaker 02 And you're right, they are the future generation. So if they don't have food and they don't have, they're not like being instructed in, you know, learning stuff and you have these schools where there's so many kids to one teacher.
1:55:25 Joe Rogan? The United States is like someone who owes you money and they say they don't have it and they keep buying cars.
1:55:29 Speaker 02 Right.
1:55:30 Joe Rogan? That's what it's like.
1:55:31 Speaker 02 Kind of.
1:55:31 Joe Rogan? It's like, how did you have the money to spend all this money on another country? When you don't have any money to spend on the education of kids?
1:55:39 Speaker 02 I mean homelessness, the veterans.
1:55:41 Joe Rogan? Okay, let's just pick, let's just pick education. Like, how much could they fix education with a hundred and seventy-five billion dollars?
1:55:48 Speaker 02 You shouldn't have a teacher that needs to buy supplies.
1:55:50 Joe Rogan? Right. And imagine this, imagine if companies were incentivized, like, what if they got government grants based on how well the kids performed in the school districts?
1:56:00 Speaker 02 That would be great.
1:56:01 Joe Rogan? Yeah, like, literally make it like Halliburton for schools. Like, you know, Halliburton, they blew up Iraq, Halliburton comes in, cleans everything up. Have something that profits off these places getting better and the better they do in terms of dropping in crime, education raids, graduation raids, college raids, everybody gets more money. Figure that out.
1:56:20 Speaker 02 Well, I mean, they just want more money for prisons.
1:56:23 Joe Rogan? They do that, too, that's true.
1:56:24 Speaker 02 Because if you don't spend on education, then you could just have these people have to turn to crime and put them in prisons and that's how you'll get money.
1:56:30 Joe Rogan? There's a bunch of things they did in the eighties that still fuck with us today and that's one of them. That's a big one. Then the eighties must have been so wild because there's no computers and it's just like TV and the newspaper and everyone's running wild and Reagan's the president, so nobody thinks anything's real. You got a fucking movie star as the president. JFK's dead, nobody still understands that one.
1:56:54 Speaker 02 Wasn't Reagan's, was Reagan's wife the one that was called the throat goat?
1:56:58 Joe Rogan? Allegedly. Yes.
1:57:00 Speaker 02 Give her her flowers, I think she is the throat goat.
1:57:03 Joe Rogan? Well, I mean, you could bestow that upon someone to besmirk their memory, you could do that. It's hard to say.
1:57:09 Speaker 02 Is that necessarily a bad thing?
1:57:11 Joe Rogan? But also the kind of gal that can capture up a president, probably knows how to get things done.
1:57:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:57:15 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
1:57:16 Speaker 02 That's not necessarily a bad thing, good for her.
1:57:18 Joe Rogan? I think it's a good thing.
1:57:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:57:19 Joe Rogan? It's a, I mean, every guy would agree.
1:57:21 Speaker 02 Sure.
1:57:22 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's a good skill for a lady to have. Then there's the problem of how'd you learn that? Unless you're a savant, first dick you suck, you're just like, wow.
1:57:31 Speaker 02 Somebody had to just figure that out.
1:57:34 Joe Rogan? There probably was glasses back in the Roman days.
1:57:37 Speaker 02 You think so?
1:57:37 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah. Probably guys showing each other how to suck each other off. Everybody was blowing everybody back then.
1:57:42 Speaker 02 They're just, you know, throwing bodies on fire and then also there's throat goat glasses.
1:57:47 Joe Rogan? Imagine what their balls smelled like back then.
1:57:49 Speaker 02 Disgusting. I can't even imagine it.
1:57:50 Joe Rogan? Jesus Christ.
1:57:51 Speaker 02 You'd probably put shit on their balls so you couldn't smell what their actual balls smelled like. You're like, I'd rather smell straight shit than listen to that.
1:58:01 Speaker 02 So gross. That has to be the worst smell.
1:58:03 Joe Rogan? Did you ever see how they wiped their asses?
1:58:05 Speaker 02 Where? In the Roman times?
1:58:06 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they would take a sponge that was on a stick. It was a communal sponge.
1:58:10 Speaker 02 Why did I just see this on like Instagram or something? Yeah, it's like just, I think I'm all, I think I'm all set.
1:58:17 Joe Rogan? I went to Pompeii and I took my family there a few years ago. It's really interesting. Cause these people died like instantaneously and then they've sort of uncovered a lot of it. And one of the things that they uncovered was like this communal like shit house. So it's just like these holes around this, like a horseshoe pattern. Yeah, like that. So these holes, so these dudes just sit there and just shat into the ground.
1:58:42 Speaker 02 So it's like kind of a toilet kind of idea?
1:58:45 Joe Rogan? But I mean, I don't think there's any water. And there's the sponge. That's the sponge. Look at the word. They had a name for it.
1:58:52 Speaker 02 How often do they?
1:58:53 Joe Rogan? Xyllospongium.
1:58:55 Speaker 02 How often do they change the sponge?
1:58:58 Joe Rogan? Oh, they couldn't change it enough. Even if you had your own sponge.
1:59:02 Speaker 02 But like a month?
1:59:03 Joe Rogan? You're dunking into that fucking, okay, hold on a second. Academics disagreed to its exact use, about which the primary sources are vague. It has traditionally been assumed that a type of shared anal hygiene utensil used to wipe after defecating and the sponge is cleaned in vinegar or water, sometimes salt water. Other recent research suggests it was most likely a toilet brush.
1:59:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, they're probably cleaning a toilet and also your asshole.
1:59:30 Joe Rogan? Yeah, maybe it was all those things.
1:59:34 Joe Rogan? Middle of the first century, Roman philosopher Seneca the Younger reported that a Germanic gladiator died by suicide with a sponge on a stick. According to Seneca, the gladiator hid himself in the latrine of an amphitheater and pushed the wooden stick deep into his throat. Yo.
1:59:53 Speaker 02 Did he take that sponge off first?
1:59:56 Joe Rogan? No, he wanted to die that way. He wanted to suffocate himself. That's how much he didn't want to fight in the Gladiator Wars.
2:00:02 Speaker 03 See also shit stick.
2:00:04 Joe Rogan? Means a thin steak or stick used instead of toilet paper for anal hygiene and was a historical item of material culture introduced through Chinese Buddhism and Japanese Buddhism. A well-known example is, I'm not even gonna try to say that word. Where'd it go? Oh.
2:00:23 Joe Rogan? Well, example, a dry shit stick from the Chan Zen, I'm not gonna say that word, in which a monk, a monk asked, "What is Buddha?" And Master Yunmen Unman answered, "A dry shit stick." Buddha is a dry shit stick, because everybody got a shit stick that had everybody else's shit already on it, and you just smear an extra shit on your butt.
2:00:46 Speaker 02 It's like, I'll just have my own shit.
2:00:48 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you're dunking it in the water, but how clean's it really get? And then it's just soaked in shit water, and you're taking that, and you're wiping your own asshole with it.
2:00:55 Speaker 02 I am glad that I was not, I am glad I was not born during that time.
2:00:59 Joe Rogan? What do you think people in the future are gonna be saying about this time, though? What are they gonna be most shocked that we did that was so stupid?
2:01:05 Speaker 02 Hmm. I don't know.
2:01:08 Joe Rogan? Because if we're looking back at Pompeii, what was Pompeii? What year did that go down?
2:01:13 Speaker 03 It was like sixty-seven, something.
2:01:15 Joe Rogan? Sixty-seven A.D.?
2:01:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:01:17 Joe Rogan? It's pretty wild when you're there. It's weird, because you get to see some of the bodies they preserved that are just completely frozen in place, like the ash overwhelmed them, and they're just like, like, almost like a little stone statue.
2:01:30 Speaker 03 Seventy-nine.
2:01:30 Joe Rogan? Seventy-nine A.D. Can you show me some of the photos of the Pompeii victims? So there's like, people that are like, just piled on top of each other, like, that's it, like, right there.
2:01:43 Joe Rogan? They just were overwhelmed by ash. Just volcanic ash, the volcano, the heat and the gases just killed everybody like almost instantly. Just completely overran the town.
2:01:58 Joe Rogan? It's pretty insane.
2:02:00 Speaker 02 That is insane.
2:02:00 Joe Rogan? Because it's just weird that people don't know that. Like when they're building these cities, they don't know that that can happen. Like, look at that.
2:02:12 Speaker 02 I mean, I wouldn't know that that can happen.
2:02:14 Joe Rogan? No, no one knew back then, but I mean, we know now. Look, look at that. That's so crazy. That's what it looks like. I mean, that's a human being that was just literally turned into a statue in place. Fuck. There was one where these two guys were embracing. And someone tried to say that it was, uh, perhaps they were lovers. And someone on Twitter was a very funny comment. They're like, Jesus Christ, imagine dying in front of your friend, then everybody finds you like, oh, I knew he was gay.
2:02:42 Speaker 02 Imagine like jerking off.
2:02:44 Joe Rogan? Right? You die in the middle of it. You have your dick. You have your hand on your balls.
2:02:48 Speaker 02 And you're just fucking now frozen in time like that?
2:02:50 Joe Rogan? Forever. At least nobody knows who you are.
2:02:52 Speaker 02 That's true.
2:02:53 Joe Rogan? Yeah, those are the guys.
2:02:54 Speaker 02 I don't know, those people, yeah. That looks, that's on the way down.
2:02:58 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Fucked up way to go. Instantaneously.
2:03:02 Speaker 02 Like, that's Bob and Tom.
2:03:04 Joe Rogan? And when I was a kid, um, Mount St. Helens blew up. What year was that, Jamie? Mount St. Helens was in the Pacific Northwest and was a big deal. Cause it was a, an actual real volcano that killed people in the United States. And we were like, whoa. Like what? I thought volcanoes were like in other countries, nineteen eighty. So I was, uh, not even in high school.
2:03:29 Joe Rogan? Yeah. That was, uh, that was a crazy one. How many people died from Mount St. Helens?
2:03:36 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they, they knew it was an active volcano, but they didn't think. Wow, it's like people live on the side of active volcanoes. Like in Hawaii, there's a bunch of people that live on the side of an active volcano.
2:03:48 Speaker 02 When I was in Hawaii, I think there was, um, one of the volcanoes did go off.
2:03:52 Joe Rogan? Yeah. It happened when I was there too. At the Big Island. The Big Island is very active. There's crazy film of lava overcoming this Mustang. Have you ever seen it?
2:04:03 Speaker 02 No.
2:04:04 Joe Rogan? There's a Mustang parked in front of the street and the lava is coming from this eruption and it just slowly consumes the street and eats this car. Right in front of this dude's house. Like these people have been living there chilling their whole life, coming home from school. Hi mom, I'm home.
2:04:19 Speaker 02 Does your insurance cover that?
2:04:21 Joe Rogan? Probably not. They try to cover as little as possible. If you live on the side of an active volcano like.
2:04:26 Speaker 02 It's like, hey, I'm gonna get volcano insurance.
2:04:28 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that's uh, that's up to you player.
2:04:30 Speaker 02 But I want, I wanna have my expensive car.
2:04:33 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I had a friend who um, he had some crazy situation. I think he had like flood insurance, but he didn't have damage from water from a hurricane insurance. So like your roof can get destroyed from a hurricane and you don't have insurance for that, but you have insurance if like your pipes break. Like he got fucked in some sort of a weird loophole.
2:04:58 Speaker 02 What's weird too with stuff like that, anytime it's like an adjuster, if you get the right adjuster, they can do whatever you want. But you have to get an adjuster who's gonna do it. Like I used to call and do like appeals for um, health insurance stuff. And if you kinda sweet talk someone, they might just put it through for you. You have to just keep calling back until you get an adjuster that's gonna give you what you want.
2:05:21 Joe Rogan? Or you have to charm them in person.
2:05:23 Speaker 02 Yes.
2:05:24 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:05:25 Speaker 02 That's what, cuz they're just regular people.
2:05:27 Joe Rogan? Right. And they could decide.
2:05:29 Speaker 02 Absolutely. They hold so much power sometimes.
2:05:31 Joe Rogan? That's a crazy power to have.
2:05:33 Speaker 02 Right.
2:05:33 Joe Rogan? Tell a person you can get your house fixed.
2:05:35 Speaker 02 Right, or like your car is totaled and we're gonna pay for it or we're not.
2:05:39 Joe Rogan? Yeah, or you're gonna have a shaky ass car for the rest of your life. As you take it on the highway. You ever had a car that's fixed that really probably shouldn't have been fixed?
2:05:49 Speaker 02 I mean, my first car I had was like um, a Ford Tempo and I remember the steering wheel like came off in my lap as I was driving it and I was just like picked it up and just kept driving.
2:06:01 Joe Rogan? He put it back on?
2:06:02 Speaker 02 Oh, I should not have been driving that car.
2:06:04 Joe Rogan? Oh my god. When you're a kid and you buy shit boxes, like the chances of those things just completely falling apart as you're driving are so high.
2:06:13 Speaker 02 My dad also would just like wanna paint a car. So he would just like start painting a car and prime it, like half of it, and then he would give up. So we'd have like a two colored car as a child. It's like so embarrassing.
2:06:25 Joe Rogan? Yeah, if you have a poor car.
2:06:27 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, we had poor cars.
2:06:29 Joe Rogan? Yeah, poor cars are not good.
2:06:30 Speaker 02 And then my mom got into a car accident, and then we got a car with that money.
2:06:33 Joe Rogan? Oh.
2:06:34 Speaker 02 The Ford Tempo was like five grand.
2:06:36 Joe Rogan? Mmm.
2:06:37 Speaker 02 It had like bright red pleather inside.
2:06:40 Joe Rogan? Bright red pleather.
2:06:41 Speaker 02 I remember, yeah, I was driving that car, me and my friends on the highway, and I'm like, oh, the steering wheel just came down, but it's still connected. So I'd just pick it up and like make the turn.
2:06:49 Joe Rogan? Oh, so like the thing that adjusts the steering wheel dropped off?
2:06:53 Speaker 02 I don't know. It just like fell in my lap when I was driving. And I just picked it up and like still drove it.
2:06:59 Joe Rogan? Jesus Christ. There's a lot of those cars out there. That's why we need inspections, Adrian. It's very important.
2:07:05 Speaker 02 My dad, though, knew a guy who would just keep passing that car.
2:07:08 Joe Rogan? Phew.
2:07:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:07:10 Joe Rogan? Those guys are a problem.
2:07:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like the right, it's a person that's like not an adjuster, but like if you know them, they'll do it for you.
2:07:17 Joe Rogan? Yeah, my friend was telling me about that for muscle cars in Los Angeles. That there's a place you can go in like the hood, and this guy will completely pass like any car. I was like, that sounds like an FBI sting.
2:07:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, but I mean, there's so many things like that.
2:07:29 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Well, especially in New York.
2:07:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, yeah.
2:07:34 Joe Rogan? I mean, New York is all about knowing a guy.
2:07:35 Speaker 02 All about knowing a guy. It's all about like what you can get away with.
2:07:38 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:07:39 Speaker 02 New York City is disgusting, and I've lived there my whole life. I hate it, but I can't imagine like living anywhere permanently for the rest of my life.
2:07:46 Joe Rogan? What do you, uh, think is gonna be the hardest adjustment about moving here?
2:07:53 Speaker 02 I don't know. Um, I'm not sure. I mean, I can't live here during the summer. I can't do it like flying roaches. Whatever, like whatever those things are, I just can't. I'm out.
2:08:07 Joe Rogan? Flying roaches?
2:08:08 Speaker 02 I just see them out. Like, it was like a hundred five degrees here when I came last June with Ari and it was just like, we were in his hat. He got a really nice Airbnb.
2:08:17 Joe Rogan? He probably brought them with him.
2:08:18 Speaker 03 There were a lot of crickets this year, but I don't think that was, that's different.
2:08:21 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:08:22 Speaker 02 There, I mean, I was in the room in the bathroom and there was one like this big.
2:08:25 Joe Rogan? A roach.
2:08:26 Speaker 02 Whatever, maybe they're cicadas, whatever they're called.
2:08:29 Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah. Cicadas are very different than roaches.
2:08:31 Speaker 02 They look like roaches.
2:08:32 Joe Rogan? People eat them.
2:08:33 Speaker 02 Sure, people eat people. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it doesn't make it cool or right, but like, you can eat whatever you want.
2:08:39 Joe Rogan? No, but I mean, it's like a delicacy. Like, people enjoy it.
2:08:42 Speaker 02 Sure.
2:08:43 Joe Rogan? No, like, I know a lot of, I know a guy who does it.
2:08:45 Speaker 02 God bless. That's not for me.
2:08:47 Joe Rogan? My friend Ryan Callahan, he had a recipe of how to cook cicadas.
2:08:51 Speaker 02 Don't they look like big roaches, though?
2:08:53 Joe Rogan? Yeah, like a bug.
2:08:55 Speaker 02 Anyway, I go to get Ari to kill it and he's like, oh, it just flew. I'm like, what? That is like a new fear unlocked. It flew?
2:09:04 Joe Rogan? It probably was a cicada. It probably wasn't a roach.
2:09:06 Speaker 02 It might not have been a roach, but like, I forget it.
2:09:09 Joe Rogan? That's what a cicada looks like.
2:09:10 Speaker 02 I can't.
2:09:11 Joe Rogan? Fucking cool. They're fucking cool. Um, see if you find cicada recipes. See if you can find Ryan Callahan's cicada recipe. My friend Ryan, he, uh, would cook them with like teriyaki sauce and bake them. Yeah, apparently, look, I've gone to Mexico before and at certain resorts in Mexico, they'll serve you like fried crickets.
2:09:30 Speaker 02 Sure.
2:09:31 Joe Rogan? Have you seen that?
2:09:32 Speaker 02 I've heard about it.
2:09:32 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Fried crickets or grasshoppers? I forget which one. But they're good. They taste good.
2:09:37 Speaker 02 They're probably crunchy.
2:09:38 Joe Rogan? Yeah, crunchy and it was kind of salty. It's pretty good. It's actually not bad for you, like legitimately.
2:09:44 Speaker 02 It's protein, right?
2:09:45 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's the same kind of animal protein that you get from a lot of different things. Um, but protein from cicadas is apparently particularly good. It's like they're, because they're big, I guess. Probably a lot of protein in those little fuckers.
2:09:57 Speaker 02 I mean, I just remember being out, like, outside on like a bar here and they were just...
2:10:02 Joe Rogan? That's all it is for you is the bugs?
2:10:04 Speaker 02 The heat's not great.
2:10:06 Joe Rogan? You can handle the heat?
2:10:07 Speaker 02 I can handle the heat over those bugs.
2:10:10 Joe Rogan? Just stay away from the bugs. I don't run into them.
2:10:12 Speaker 02 They fly.
2:10:13 Joe Rogan? Adrian, I'm telling you, you're hanging out in the wrong spots. I'll show you where to go with the bugs.
2:10:16 Speaker 02 Sure, maybe I'm in the poor places, but like the bugs are just, I can't deal with the flying of them.
2:10:20 Joe Rogan? Just don't know where the bugs are. It's not that big of a deal. Mosquitoes are a pain in the ass, sometimes.
2:10:25 Speaker 02 I don't care about that. I mean, yeah, it's not great, but like, those big things, I can't.
2:10:28 Joe Rogan? Like Lady Bird Lake, if you go around there, you're gonna, there's gonna be a lot of mosquitoes. They're all over the fucking place. But that's also, um, what the bats keep in check. Have you seen the bat, um, emergence before?
2:10:38 Speaker 02 No.
2:10:39 Joe Rogan? Oh, it's fucking cool as shit.
2:10:40 Speaker 02 Bats are actually pretty cute.
2:10:41 Joe Rogan? Well, there's a, there's the bridge, right? The South Congress Bridge. And if you go by the South Congress Bridge, there's people every night that are waiting for the bats to leave. Cause millions of bats leave. So, as billions of critters have emerged for seven years. So, is this Ryan?
2:10:57 Speaker 03 I think so.
2:10:58 Joe Rogan? Okay, so you're showing, so you peel off the skin of these little fuckers.
2:11:02 Speaker 02 What, what is this guy doing?
2:11:03 Joe Rogan? That's not Ryan Callahan. I don't know who that guy is.
2:11:05 Speaker 03 I could find a video of him doing it then.
2:11:07 Joe Rogan? Okay. But so, this guy's just showing how you cook cicadas. So, he's basically taking away the outside area, and he made a cicada taco for this kid. And this lady, and they're eating it with a, mm.
2:11:22 Joe Rogan? She's, she's freaking out. Whatever.
2:11:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:11:24 Joe Rogan? She said it's not bad.
2:11:27 Joe Rogan? What was I just talking about before that, though? We're moving on to something else.
2:11:31 Speaker 02 Oh, what I'll miss about being in, being here as opposed to New York?
2:11:35 Joe Rogan? Yeah, we talked about, oh, um, oh, the bats. That's what we're talking about.
2:11:39 Speaker 02 The bats eating the mosquitoes.
2:11:39 Joe Rogan? Show the, um, bats emerging from the South Congress Bridge. It's really crazy. I've seen, I've only done it once, where I went out there and watched it happen. It's like a million bats. It's like the sky fills with bats, and they kill all the fucking mosquitoes. They're death for the mosquitoes.
2:11:54 Speaker 02 Why are they not eating the cicadas also? That's pretty cool, though.
2:11:57 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:11:57 Speaker 03 I've never seen the photos of it.
2:11:59 Joe Rogan? It's pretty badass. I've seen it live like that. And, and if you go under that bridge, you hear them.
2:12:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:12:07 Joe Rogan? Little flying rats clinging to the roof.
2:12:08 Speaker 02 What else do they eat? They can't eat just mosquitoes.
2:12:10 Joe Rogan? Mosquitoes.
2:12:11 Speaker 02 That's it?
2:12:12 Joe Rogan? They're mosquito killers. They keep the mosquitoes in check. Uh, they probably eat a bunch of bugs. I'm sure they don't only dine on mosquitoes, but they're a significant factor in keeping the mosquito population down. Allegedly. That's what I read. Let's find out if that's true. I think it's true, though. I think it's true. I think that's one of the main things that they helped with.
2:12:30 Speaker 02 My friend, he lives in, uh, I guess the country, and he's like trying to put up those places where bats will come to eat the mosquitoes. Like, I guess you put up those little bat houses or whatever. Put pheromones in them, I guess, and he's like, he can't get them to come there, because he has a lot of mosquitoes, because he lives by a lake.
2:12:44 Joe Rogan? Yeah, I bet bats, it's hard to get them to move into new areas. You know, because I bet wherever bats live, if they live by a lake, there's probably plenty of bugs. Like, why would they take a risk to go somewhere where they're not sure if resources exist?
2:12:58 Speaker 02 I mean, they could just fly.
2:12:59 Joe Rogan? Right, but they live under this bridge, and they've been on this bridge forever.
2:13:02 Speaker 02 Well, yeah, I don't think he's gonna get these bats.
2:13:04 Joe Rogan? But you know what I'm saying? Like, when bats find a spot that works, they're not migratory.
2:13:08 Speaker 02 Right, they're just gonna stay there.
2:13:10 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they're just gonna stay there. So to get them to go to a new spot, he's probably gonna have to bring bats. We actually had a bat expert on the podcast.
2:13:18 Speaker 02 Do you know what I need? I need an expert for pantry moths.
2:13:22 Joe Rogan? We'll try to find you one.
2:13:23 Speaker 02 I mean, I have pantry moths for the last three months, and I can't get rid of them.
2:13:27 Speaker 03 They do migrate.
2:13:29 Joe Rogan? Where do they go? They migrate seasonally, flying south for the winter, and then returning north in the spring. Interesting.
2:13:34 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's how I heard about it, because there's a bunch more in Houston.
2:13:37 Joe Rogan? Right, so they probably, because Houston doesn't get as cold, probably. But they probably have, like, an established range, is what my point is. It's like, bringing them to a new range, like, to your friend's place, is gonna be difficult, because there's not a history of them being there. But I wonder if, what was that dude's name? What does it say? It says they eat between 10,000 and 30,000 pounds of insects, including mosquitoes.
2:14:00 Speaker 03 Every night.
2:14:00 Joe Rogan? And, every night. On their nightly flights, and harmful agricultural pests.
2:14:05 Speaker 02 They gotta be eating those cicadas.
2:14:07 Joe Rogan? So Austin's bats, they're fucking huge. They're really, they come in handy. Um, but, ah, fuck, what was I, um, asking about other than that?
2:14:15 Speaker 03 Merlin Tuttle.
2:14:16 Joe Rogan? Yes, that's his name. Merlin Tuttle. So he is a, a bat expert. And he lives in Austin as well. Fascinating dude. He's been studying bats his whole life. He's a scientist.
2:14:26 Speaker 02 Is there still new stuff to find out about bats?
2:14:28 Joe Rogan? Sure, yeah. I mean, bats carry a lot of weird diseases. It's one thing, you know? Like, uh, and there's some crossover diseases. That's the coronavirus is essentially was a bat disease that they took and fucked with and made it, uh, vulnerable for humans. So they, um, they've done a lot of work with like bats and diseases. One of the craziest stories, though, there's these two doctors, or two scientists, rather, and they, um, they were in Africa and they decided to set up photography to film these bats as they were flying out of the cave, cause there's a certain cave in Africa that has like some fucking insane number of bats.
2:15:10 Joe Rogan? It's just filled with them. And when these bats flew out, they shit. So these guys are on the ground in front of the bat cave filming.
2:15:20 Speaker 02 Getting covered in shit?
2:15:21 Joe Rogan? Didn't take into account they're gonna be covered in bat shit. Just millions and millions of bats shitting in their face. And they died. They died of like some crazy hemorrhagic virus that just raged through their system. If you imagine you are a, a human being and you're essentially intravenously taking in bat shit into your system. It's going in your eyeballs. It's going in your mouth.
2:15:52 Speaker 02 Turn of events.
2:15:53 Joe Rogan? It's going through the, the blood-brain barrier. The bat shit's getting into your blood and it's circulating through your whole body. And you just develop a horrible hemorrhagic virus.
2:16:05 Speaker 02 So you can't play in that shit like you can play in cow shit?
2:16:08 Joe Rogan? No, I don't think so. I think, well, bats eat a lot of like living organisms, unlike cows, you know?
2:16:14 Speaker 03 Turning these crocodiles orange.
2:16:15 Joe Rogan? Bat poop has turned these African cave crocodiles orange.
2:16:19 Speaker 02 I mean, that orange crocodile looks pretty cool.
2:16:21 Joe Rogan? That's a pretty dope looking crocodile.
2:16:23 Speaker 02 I'd like a pair of boots.
2:16:24 Joe Rogan? Yeah, no shit, right? Like, natural?
2:16:26 Speaker 02 Nice.
2:16:26 Joe Rogan? Natural orange crocodile from bat poop?
2:16:30 Joe Rogan? You know, bat guano is a very potent fertilizer, right? Because bat guano has like, I think it has high levels of nitrogen. I think that comes from them eating all the insects. So that like, there used to be wars over bat shit. And that's where the term bat shit crazy comes from.
2:16:51 Speaker 02 I did not know that.
2:16:52 Joe Rogan? Yeah, guano was like a very expensive commodity. Because people needed it to grow crops. So if you could get...
2:17:00 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
2:17:00 Joe Rogan? Yeah, bat guano is apparently a very potent fertilizer.
2:17:05 Speaker 03 They have a forty-three-hundred-year-old poop core in a Jamaican cave that they've been studying.
2:17:10 Joe Rogan? What?
2:17:11 Speaker 03 Five thousand different species of bats have been shitting on for...
2:17:14 Joe Rogan? Jesus Christ! Oh my god! Depositive into sequen... Wow! Sequential layers by generations of bats for over four thousand, three hundred years. And it's two meters tall. That is so crazy. Largely undisturbed and holds information about changes in climate and how the bats' food sources shifted over the millennia. Wow!
2:17:40 Speaker 02 Imagine going to Jamaica for spring break and that's where you go.
2:17:42 Joe Rogan? That is so crazy. That's so nuts.
2:17:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, I know. I'm trying to find a picture of it, but I don't see it.
2:17:51 Joe Rogan? You know what I'm really fascinated with? Is things that existed like only in myth, but that every culture has. Like dragons. Like I had this guy Forrest Galant. He's a wildlife biologist. And he thinks that there's a real possibility that dragons were an actual thing. And that...
2:18:10 Speaker 02 Well, when they have lived, like when dinosaurs were around?
2:18:13 Joe Rogan? No, no, they lived alongside humans. That's why there's all these records in all these different cultures. And you know, there's Chinese culture has dragons. Japanese culture has dragons. Ancient Europeans have dragons. Like dragon is a real... Not fire breathing. That seems to be bullshit. But maybe even...
2:18:33 Speaker 02 What kind of, like, what would their purpose be?
2:18:36 Joe Rogan? Well, they're probably like a crocodile that flies. There's probably like more than one kind of really dangerous reptile that they call dragons. Like Komodo dragons.
2:18:47 Speaker 02 Right, Komodo dragons.
2:18:48 Joe Rogan? Giant lizard, they call it a dragon, right? Crocodiles, dragons.
2:18:51 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
2:18:51 Joe Rogan? The question is whether or not one of them actually flew. Cause we know that pterodactyls were a real thing. And if, if pterodactyls-
2:18:58 Speaker 02 I mean, they probably were real then.
2:19:00 Joe Rogan? Nah. I think it's probably something like that. You know, some kind of like enormous bird type creature.
2:19:07 Speaker 02 I only want a dragon if it's going to like just have fire come out of its mouth.
2:19:11 Joe Rogan? All the time, yeah.
2:19:12 Speaker 02 That's the only kind of dragon I want.
2:19:13 Joe Rogan? Stick it on your enemies.
2:19:14 Speaker 02 Yes.
2:19:14 Joe Rogan? Shut the fuck up. You know?
2:19:17 Speaker 02 Send it to your house.
2:19:17 Joe Rogan? Like when you're in Game of Thrones and that lady's standing there and then you see the dragon's head slowly emerge behind her.
2:19:23 Speaker 02 I never watched Game of Thrones. I know.
2:19:24 Joe Rogan? How dare you.
2:19:25 Speaker 02 I know.
2:19:26 Joe Rogan? It's so good.
2:19:27 Speaker 02 I keep trying to get into it and I can't.
2:19:30 Joe Rogan? The new one is, nah.
2:19:31 Speaker 02 No, but I mean, I mean the old one.
2:19:33 Joe Rogan? The old one is so good. It's so good. It's so good. It makes you want a dragon. The lady who, was her name, Veneras? Who had the dragons? Is that her name?
2:19:44 Speaker 02 I have no idea. You didn't watch it either? Could you not get into it?
2:19:48 Joe Rogan? She's too busy playing video games and golf.
2:19:50 Speaker 02 Bring me your, bring me your pup.
2:19:52 Joe Rogan? Oh, what are you, a reality?
2:19:54 Speaker 02 Bring me your puppy right now. Bring me Carl.
2:19:57 Joe Rogan? Like Jamie's like, I don't like fantasy.
2:19:59 Speaker 03 Not that kind.
2:20:00 Speaker 02 Yeah, I don't really like fantasy like that either.
2:20:02 Speaker 03 I don't know, like sci-fi stuff, a little more interesting.
2:20:04 Joe Rogan? Have you seen, uh, Three Body Problem?
2:20:06 Speaker 03 No, I, it was on my list to watch it and started it.
2:20:09 Speaker 02 Is it good?
2:20:10 Joe Rogan? Really good. Really. By the guys who made Games of Thrones. Or the gals or non-binary folks, whoever the fuck it is.
2:20:16 Speaker 02 Whoever made it.
2:20:16 Joe Rogan? Whoever made Game of Thrones. It, some, that's a thing that you repeat without looking any further. I don't know what producers or whatever, but the point is like, it is a really, really good show. Like really fun and science fiction. And, uh, my wife who's not even into science fiction, she loves it.
2:20:32 Speaker 02 I gotta check it out. I really want Carl.
2:20:35 Joe Rogan? Little Carl, isn't he adorable?
2:20:37 Speaker 02 He's so cute.
2:20:38 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he's gotta rest up for Marshall. In about fifteen, twenty minutes, he's gonna meet Marshall again.
2:20:43 Speaker 02 Marshall is like, Marshall is just happy right now.
2:20:46 Joe Rogan? Oh yeah, he's happy when Carl's nowhere near him.
2:20:48 Speaker 02 He's like, Carl, please, I can't.
2:20:50 Joe Rogan? Especially if like, he doesn't have a toy where they could play tug of war.
2:20:53 Speaker 02 Right.
2:20:53 Joe Rogan? If they could play tug of war, it's cool, but Carl is just a psycho.
2:20:56 Speaker 02 As soon as I came in, he was just like biting my sneaker.
2:20:59 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he just wants to fight, he wants to play.
2:21:01 Speaker 02 He's still so young, though.
2:21:02 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he's a little baby. But he's also a crazy dog, like he's like a little torpedo. He launches himself through the air at Marshall.
2:21:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, he's like, if he was a person, he'd be a dictator. He's like nuts.
2:21:13 Joe Rogan? He'd be a gladiator.
2:21:15 Speaker 02 He's like just jacked.
2:21:17 Joe Rogan? Yeah, he'd be one of them dudes fighting. He'd be like that, he wouldn't be the guy that killed himself with a shit sponge.
2:21:24 Speaker 02 No, no way. He'd be killing people with the shit sponge, just plunging it right in their throat.
2:21:29 Joe Rogan? But you imagine if like, today was the lion fight, you're like, I don't wanna do this. I'd rather choke to death on a shit stick. Imagine how bad your life has to be.
2:21:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think you're like, I'm just gonna off myself with this shit stick.
2:21:40 Joe Rogan? Imagine like, that's all you have to kill yourself is a shit stick?
2:21:45 Joe Rogan? I mean, how bad your life has to suck to take this fucking sponge covered in other people's shit
2:21:52 Joe Rogan? and just bypass your gag instincts and stuff it down your hole until you die?
2:21:57 Speaker 02 Imagine you don't die right away either.
2:21:59 Joe Rogan? You definitely don't die right away.
2:22:00 Speaker 02 You're just like ingesting those fumes.
2:22:03 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you're growing up in the middle of killing yourself by stuffing it in your neck.
2:22:10 Speaker 03 I think someone thought that would kill them and they just tried smelling it until they died and it didn't work.
2:22:13 Joe Rogan? Nah, they're probably used to that kinda smell.
2:22:16 Speaker 02 It's like smelling salts. I bet that shit wakes you right up.
2:22:19 Joe Rogan? You want some?
2:22:20 Speaker 02 No. I used to work at a place that's...
2:22:24 Speaker 02 I'll do it, but I'm not gonna do it that close.
2:22:28 Joe Rogan? Oh.
2:22:29 Speaker 02 That's what people do with the shit stick.
2:22:30 Joe Rogan? Oh my god. That was the biggest one I ever got. Ever. Oh my god. I thought it had lost a little bit of potency from the other day.
2:22:40 Joe Rogan? Yo.
2:22:41 Speaker 03 It's like a delayed reaction.
2:22:42 Joe Rogan? Yo. That one hit me harder than anyone ever.
2:22:45 Speaker 02 I thought it wasn't even that close to me. It's like chlorine, but the most chlorine. So I worked at a place that did abortions. It was like an OB GYN and they used that stuff to like wake people up.
2:22:56 Joe Rogan? Oh fun.
2:22:58 Speaker 02 Ugh, god, that is so bad.
2:23:01 Joe Rogan? Gets addicted though. You wanna try it again, don't you?
2:23:03 Speaker 02 No, I don't.
2:23:04 Joe Rogan? You don't? Sure?
2:23:05 Speaker 02 I'm not a gambler. I'm not a gambler.
2:23:06 Joe Rogan? Doesn't matter.
2:23:07 Speaker 02 I'll do it from further away.
2:23:08 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
2:23:09 Speaker 02 Let's do it again. Let's do it again.
2:23:12 Joe Rogan? It's one of those things where everybody does it and like, what the fuck?
2:23:14 Speaker 02 That is so bad.
2:23:15 Joe Rogan? Let me try it again. Let me try it again. Everybody wants to try it again.
2:23:20 Speaker 02 That's brutal.
2:23:20 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's rough. It's rough stuff.
2:23:23 Speaker 02 What do they use that for besides?
2:23:25 Joe Rogan? Weightlifters.
2:23:26 Speaker 02 Oh, if they get knocked out.
2:23:27 Joe Rogan? No, no, no. They take it right before they power lift.
2:23:30 Speaker 02 Why?
2:23:31 Joe Rogan? It get, it's like, it's apparently, I don't know the actual science, maybe Jamie can look it up. The idea, I think, that is it shocks your system, like just jolts everything alive. And then you're like, fuck it, ah! And then you can lift more weights. Allegedly.
2:23:46 Speaker 02 That's crazy, cuz I didn't even have it that close to my face.
2:23:49 Joe Rogan? They used to use it with boxers, but they made it illegal. They would put it under a boxer's nose.
2:23:52 Speaker 02 To wake them up, right?
2:23:53 Joe Rogan? To wake them up, yeah. If they got like rocked and hurt, they would snap them back.
2:24:00 Joe Rogan? I don't even know if it works.
2:24:01 Speaker 03 Lots of athletes use it.
2:24:02 Speaker 02 What is that? What is it though?
2:24:04 Joe Rogan? Is it legal for them?
2:24:05 Speaker 03 Yeah, well, they're using the smaller versions, but yeah.
2:24:07 Joe Rogan? Why can't boxers use it then?
2:24:09 Speaker 03 I don't know that they can't.
2:24:10 Joe Rogan? I don't think they can. I think smelling salts are illegal in between rounds. I think it actually was an issue that somebody brought up because... I think someone was asking why someone, it was one of the fight men in the UFC, one of the, um, excuse me, one of the cut men in the UFC, was holding someone's nose open after they got rocked, like with his finger, but it was just to create the more airway.
2:24:32 Speaker 03 It says that because they can cause, they can mask more serious injuries and cause further harm.
2:24:36 Joe Rogan? Right, right, right.
2:24:36 Speaker 03 That's what the sinboxing is why it's.
2:24:38 Joe Rogan? Yeah, that makes sense. So like if you get rocked and then they give you smelling salts, you might think you're okay, but really you're still fucked up.
2:24:44 Speaker 02 Right.
2:24:44 Speaker 03 The worst injury from them is, is what this is backing up. I, when I was looking into it is whiplash. It's not like burning your nose.
2:24:50 Joe Rogan? That's hilarious.
2:24:51 Speaker 02 I was like from just going like that?
2:24:53 Speaker 03 Yeah, because you can't not react that way.
2:24:55 Joe Rogan? That's hilarious.
2:24:56 Speaker 03 And people that are more hurt can fuck, get fucked up more.
2:24:59 Joe Rogan? You need to do some neck exercises, homie. You get whiplash from that. That's ridiculous.
2:25:03 Speaker 02 You get into a car accident and you wanna, you want like to get more money? You just do that for whiplash?
2:25:08 Joe Rogan? Take a couple blasts of that.
2:25:10 Speaker 02 What is that stuff? Like what? It just smells like ammonia kinda?
2:25:12 Joe Rogan? I think it is ammonia. Yeah. Yeah, it's just ammonia in like crystal form. But this is this company is, uh, it's this, the product is called Ah. This is the strongest one we've ever tried.
2:25:24 Speaker 02 I mean, I've smelled it before too, but like that is very strong. It was like, it was like here and I smelled it.
2:25:28 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it was, this smelled so bad that it smelled inside the sealed container. So it had a sealed plastic container on the outside. I had to open that. I could smell it through the container before it was even open. Then once I unsealed it and opened the bag, while this was sealed and with like a, a top to the lid, like, so there's the top that's like sealed over the bottle and then the lid on top of the top.
2:25:49 Speaker 02 And you still smelled it through that?
2:25:50 Joe Rogan? Still smelled it through that. With like the plastic seal, you gotta pull the seal back and everything. Once we opened it up, I could, it's just, it's insane. Whatever the fuck is in, whatever it does to your system.
2:26:02 Speaker 02 How do they like get it in crystal form? No. Okay. You do it first.
2:26:06 Joe Rogan? Okay.
2:26:09 Speaker 02 Why would you go that close?
2:26:13 Speaker 02 That's pretty close.
2:26:19 Joe Rogan? Get in there, girl. Big breath, big breath, big breath, big breath.
2:26:23 Speaker 02 Oh.
2:26:24 Joe Rogan? No, that was nothing.
2:26:24 Speaker 02 I smelled enough.
2:26:25 Joe Rogan? That was nothing.
2:26:26 Speaker 02 I don't care. I'm not gonna breathe in it, I'm gonna lie. I'm gonna pretend I'm doing it.
2:26:31 Joe Rogan? You did it.
2:26:32 Speaker 02 That first time, that first time is like brutal.
2:26:34 Joe Rogan? Yeah. Doesn't it wake you up, though?
2:26:36 Speaker 02 It does, for sure.
2:26:38 Joe Rogan? So if somebody had rocked you, if you're in there with some girl's boxing you up.
2:26:42 Speaker 02 Right.
2:26:42 Joe Rogan? Just piecing you up.
2:26:43 Speaker 02 And they just smell that.
2:26:44 Joe Rogan? Gets you in the corner, you're like, whoo.
2:26:46 Speaker 02 I can see it making you like angry, too.
2:26:48 Joe Rogan? Yeah. I would think it'd probably be good to mask any symptoms of you being hurt.
2:26:53 Speaker 02 They should've had that on the shit stick.
2:26:57 Joe Rogan? Yeah, imagine just swallowing a bottle of that to kill yourself? Yeah!
2:27:01 Speaker 02 But that's better.
2:27:02 Joe Rogan? Probably take a long time.
2:27:04 Speaker 02 You don't think you would die from that right away? It's ammonia.
2:27:06 Joe Rogan? I wonder. Okay. How much ammonia would you have to consume for it to be lethal, Jamie?
2:27:12 Speaker 02 I feel like a cup.
2:27:14 Joe Rogan? This is not even a cup.
2:27:15 Speaker 02 Well, that's in crystal form, though.
2:27:17 Speaker 03 I think it'd be prolonged. If it's the amount of time, you're probably doing it.
2:27:19 Joe Rogan? But if you just down this whole thing, it should kill you.
2:27:22 Speaker 03 Swallowed it?
2:27:22 Joe Rogan? Yeah, the whole thing. I feel like we shouldn't be giving anybody any ideas.
2:27:27 Speaker 02 Probably not. People were like eating Tide Pods, don't.
2:27:29 Joe Rogan? They were, right? That was real.
2:27:31 Speaker 02 That's a crazy time, where like...
2:27:33 Joe Rogan? I think China did that to us. I think they tricked us on the internet. Yeah, they got some like fake people to pretend to eat Tide Pods and talk dumb kids.
2:27:40 Speaker 02 Like, remember when they were locking up detergent because kids were eating Tide Pods?
2:27:46 Speaker 02 Where you're like, I don't know, man, if you're eating those Tide Pods, you deserve it.
2:27:50 Joe Rogan? Yeah. We're always gonna have kids that do stupid shit. There's no way around that.
2:27:56 Speaker 02 Tide Pods is probably...
2:27:57 Joe Rogan? I was lucky Tide Pods weren't around when I was a kid.
2:28:00 Speaker 02 You would've definitely been eating them.
2:28:01 Joe Rogan? I know somebody who would've ate them. There's always that one kid in the neighborhood that'll do anything. Get attention, eat a bug.
2:28:07 Speaker 02 They do feel cool, though. They're like soft and...
2:28:11 Joe Rogan? What is in them?
2:28:12 Speaker 02 Detergent.
2:28:13 Speaker 03 Oh, sorry, Tide Pods.
2:28:15 Joe Rogan? What were you saying, Jamie?
2:28:15 Speaker 03 They were saying, this is probably how this got into sports. They thought it counteracted head trauma.
2:28:22 Joe Rogan? Right, yeah. Wakes you up.
2:28:24 Speaker 03 Not ju- but I mean, fully like if you were knocked out.
2:28:28 Joe Rogan? Right.
2:28:28 Speaker 03 Which you had, I mean, you had a, I know it would wake you up, but like they thought it like fixed you.
2:28:31 Joe Rogan? Right, they thought it brought you back. Well, they didn't know shit back then.
2:28:35 Speaker 02 I still smell it.
2:28:36 Joe Rogan? I mean, when do you think they figured out brain damage? When they start figuring out if you get punched in the head too many times, you, you lose your ability to communicate.
2:28:43 Speaker 02 I think they probably knew it pretty early and they were like, I'm betting on this game, though.
2:28:48 Speaker 02 Let them keep it in each other.
2:28:50 Joe Rogan? Well, they definitely knew about it because boxers were washed up even in the 50s and the 60s. But I don't think they understood the extent of it until probably like the 60s and the 70s. People started discussing like being punch drunk, punch drunk boxers. Like, I think boxers knew about it, but I think like the general public, it wasn't really a big thing.
2:29:09 Speaker 02 What about football people, like, you know, concussions and stuff?
2:29:12 Joe Rogan? Yeah, for sure. They get it real bad. All of them. All, all contact athletes, your head getting jarred like that. But I think for us, the big one was Muhammad Ali because Muhammad Ali was such a cultural hero. And to see Muhammad Ali in this later stages of his life, like unable to communicate and shaking is like very disturbing. Because as much as they try to tell you that had nothing to do with boxing, like, come on.
2:29:35 Speaker 02 It definitely did.
2:29:36 Joe Rogan? Of course it did.
2:29:37 Speaker 02 You jostling your brain around.
2:29:38 Joe Rogan? But there's also a trauma-induced Parkinson's is a real thing.
2:29:42 Speaker 02 Right.
2:29:43 Joe Rogan? And so when you see people that are like Freddie Roach, who's a, he was a boxer and now is a famous trainer. He has trauma-induced Parkinson's. It's a shake that he tells you is from his career as a boxer. It's just something that happens to people. And so when you see it happen to someone like Muhammad Ali, you're like, fuck.
2:30:00 Speaker 02 Right, because this guy's like the, the sign of strength.
2:30:03 Joe Rogan? Oh, not just a sign of strength, but the way he would talk was so different than any other boxer. He was so fast. He was so funny. Like Howard Cosell called him truculent once. He seemed very truculent champ. He goes, whatever truculent is, if it's good, I'm that.
2:30:18 Speaker 02 That's a great answer.
2:30:22 Joe Rogan? He had so many funny things that he said. He was the first guy that was like talking shit in a funny way and getting the whole world to pay attention, you know? He said one of his opponents, I forget who it was, he goes, have you ever dreamed you beat me, you better wake up and apologize? He just said some funny, funny things he would say, but also like refused to fight in the Vietnam War. He said, hey, man, fuck you. I'm not going over there.
2:30:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, good for him.
2:30:46 Joe Rogan? Yeah. And then lost his title, lost his ability to make a living for three years because of it. Like, the prime three years of his career was taken from him because he refused to fight in the Vietnam War. So he was, he was a lot more than just a fighter. He was like a cultural icon who defined rebelling against a corrupt and evil system. And then, you know, eventually at the end of his life, he was a victim of the sport that made him famous. And we watched it.
2:31:14 Speaker 02 Right.
2:31:15 Joe Rogan? And that's the first time we ever watched someone go from, you know,
2:31:20 Joe Rogan? just celebrated for the way he talked to being unable to communicate at all.
2:31:23 Speaker 03 This gives two very different versions of when it was discovered.
2:31:28 Joe Rogan? Ancient Egypt.
2:31:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:31:30 Joe Rogan? 1848 Phineas Gage, a railroad worker, survived a traumatic brain injury when an iron rod shot through his skull and destroyed much of his left frontal lobe. Gage's personality changed dramatically and his case considered a landmark in the study of brain damage and personality.
2:31:46 Speaker 03 So we have pictures of that.
2:31:47 Joe Rogan? Yo, let's see the pictures. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
2:31:53 Speaker 03 This says it went right through.
2:31:54 Joe Rogan? Oh, my god.
2:31:56 Speaker 03 He didn't apparently feel much pain.
2:31:58 Joe Rogan? Oh, boy.
2:31:59 Speaker 03 He was throwing up for every 20 minutes, but he was lucid and remained talking the whole time.
2:32:05 Joe Rogan? So he just made like his hair part over the hole in his head?
2:32:08 Speaker 03 It said he had obliterated his left frontal lobe.
2:32:10 Joe Rogan? Oh.
2:32:11 Speaker 03 He survived the accident of a 13 inch railroad rod.
2:32:17 Joe Rogan? Is that the rod that he has in his hand?
2:32:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, I think so.
2:32:19 Joe Rogan? Oh, Christ.
2:32:20 Speaker 02 He's kept it?
2:32:21 Speaker 03 That could be a gun or something.
2:32:22 Joe Rogan? No, that looks like the rod, dude.
2:32:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
2:32:24 Joe Rogan? That's the thing that went through his fucking head and he lived.
2:32:27 Speaker 02 And now he's keeping it.
2:32:28 Joe Rogan? Oh, that's what it looked like. Oh, my god.
2:32:35 Speaker 02 Wait, so it didn't go through his eye?
2:32:37 Joe Rogan? It went through his head and destroyed his eye.
2:32:38 Speaker 03 On his jaw.
2:32:39 Joe Rogan? What do you think that, what did it say it did to his personality?
2:32:43 Speaker 03 That's why, so this was like the first study in psychology, it's changed psychology and...
2:32:48 Joe Rogan? Right. What did they say, how did they say it affected his personality? Phineas Gage on second thought, that's interesting. What does that say on the top, the title of it?
2:32:57 Speaker 03 For profane and hostile afterwards.
2:32:59 Joe Rogan? A reexamination of the famous case of a man's personality change from a grievous brain injury.
2:33:09 Joe Rogan? Uh huh.
2:33:12 Joe Rogan? Okay, wait a minute.
2:33:14 Speaker 03 I know.
2:33:14 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:33:15 Speaker 03 Double across that.
2:33:16 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:33:17 Speaker 03 Alright, find another way.
2:33:19 Joe Rogan? Yeah, it's hard to know. This is a funky site.
2:33:23 Joe Rogan? The dude who runs that site's funky.
2:33:27 Speaker 02 I mean, I bet he wasn't a good time to be around.
2:33:29 Joe Rogan? Well, it does definitely dramatically change people. Like, um, I was reading about this guy who developed, um, an ability to, uh, see mathematics in like geometric form. And, uh, it's called, uh, acquired savant syndrome. So this guy started creating like geometric art. Like, apparently had no interest in mathematics at all.
2:33:51 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm.
2:33:51 Joe Rogan? And then I think he got mugged. I think he got beat up and, uh, then developed some bizarre mathematical ability.
2:34:00 Speaker 02 I mean, that's better than the people that have like traumatic brain injuries and become pedophiles. Like, definitely pray for the mathematic genius.
2:34:08 Joe Rogan? Well, I know quite a few comics have had them. Roseanne Barr, Kinison, both got hit by cars. Both changed their personalities dramatically afterwards. It's probably like quite a few people that just got knocked in the head and then just became a different person.
2:34:23 Speaker 02 Right.
2:34:23 Joe Rogan? It's really weird. It's a sketchy thing.
2:34:27 Speaker 02 Oh, no, your joke was about somebody taking medicine.
2:34:30 Joe Rogan? Oh, the, the joke about, yeah, the Parkinson's drug. That's true. That's true.
2:34:35 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
2:34:35 Joe Rogan? It's so crazy. Yeah, it's called a dopamine agonist. And, uh, apparently with some people, it completely removes their inhibitions.
2:34:44 Speaker 02 Right, he was gambling.
2:34:45 Joe Rogan? Gambling, gay sex, just went off the rails.
2:34:50 Speaker 02 And what did you say? He lost like six hundred thousand or something?
2:34:52 Joe Rogan? Somewhere in the neighborhood of that, yeah. Lost everything.
2:34:57 Speaker 02 But then when he stopped taking the drug, he was okay.
2:35:00 Joe Rogan? Got back to normal. He's like, what the fuck was I doing? He won in court, which is the craziest thing.
2:35:06 Speaker 02 Yeah, you said but he lost.
2:35:07 Joe Rogan? He sued Galaxo Smith Klein.
2:35:08 Speaker 02 But he lost more money.
2:35:09 Joe Rogan? He lost as much money as he gained back and he was also raped twice. Uh, no, raped once, I think. He was just randomly picked. He was raped? He was raped. He was raped. Yeah, he picked a guy up off Craigslist.
2:35:21 Speaker 02 I guess he didn't see that.
2:35:22 Joe Rogan? He just became addicted to gay sex and gambling.
2:35:24 Speaker 02 It's crazy to like, stop doing that and then you're like, wow, I remember all those dicks I took.
2:35:29 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:35:30 Speaker 02 That was a crazy time.
2:35:31 Joe Rogan? Well, he was a different human, like, his brain, like, we don't think about it this way, but your brain is essentially this functional ecosystem of all of these different things. Dopamine and serotonin, all these neurotransmitters, and, and then the blood that's flowing through your body, it's all operating on this sort of like, fairly regular schedule of what's available to use, and how you interpret consciousness based on the chemicals. And then all of a sudden, you introduce this new shit, and this new shit makes you want to suck cock and play bingo.
2:36:08 Speaker 02 It's just crazy that both of those things are like, the same in this guy's head.
2:36:13 Joe Rogan? Well, it's just wild impulses. I'm sure he had probably other impulses, um, I don't know if he got more violent, but that, that sometimes happens where people like, can't control, you know, like, someone cuts you off in traffic, and you're like, oh, this fucking idiot.
2:36:25 Speaker 02 Right.
2:36:25 Joe Rogan? Well, they just fucking can't take it! They just want to just drive someone off the road, they just lose their impulse control. That happens to people with CTE as well. A lot of people with CTE, they have a very short fuse, like, very short fuse.
2:36:38 Speaker 02 Didn't they think that happened on Aaron Hernandez?
2:36:40 Joe Rogan? Mm-hmm.
2:36:42 Joe Rogan? Yeah, they said he had the worst CTE, I think that they had ever diagnosed, and he was alive and 28. You know, so he wasn't, well, he's dead, obviously, because they did an autopsy, but I mean, he was alive at 28 before he killed himself with the worst CTE they had ever seen. So it hadn't even killed him.
2:37:01 Speaker 02 Right.
2:37:02 Joe Rogan? But it had destroyed his brain. I mean, his brain was destroyed. It was just filled with holes.
2:37:09 Speaker 02 That's crazy.
2:37:10 Joe Rogan? Crazy. And, um, they said that, when they studied, uh, football players, there's some extraordinary number of football players that have CTE. It's in like, the high 90%. And this is not just college, this is high school, college.
2:37:26 Speaker 02 But all those people that, that have those high CTE counts, like, they're not killing people either.
2:37:30 Joe Rogan? Some of them are.
2:37:31 Speaker 02 Not a lot.
2:37:32 Joe Rogan? No, not a lot. But the thing about it is, first of all, when it's over, you, there's a lot of them that went up killing themselves. Um, that's a big thing with, uh, that happens with fighters, it happens with, uh, soldiers also, the PTSD compounding, the fact they have brain injuries. Lot of heavy depression. So, three hundred and forty-five NFL player, former NFL players with chronic traumatic encephalopathy out of three hundred and seventy-six former players studied. So, out of all those people studied, only thirty-one dudes didn't have it. So, it's ninety-one point seven percent. Among those diagnosed in the last year, two former players who once represented the teams, paired in the Sunday Super Bowl.
2:38:16 Joe Rogan? Former Philadelphia Eagles quarterback. Could you do me a favor and just Google Aaron Hernandez CTE?
2:38:23 Speaker 03 I did, yeah, yeah.
2:38:24 Joe Rogan? With results?
2:38:25 Speaker 03 Yeah, he had. The second highest you could have. I don't know the stages, but says stage three, worst you've ever seen in someone that young.
2:38:33 Joe Rogan? Yeah.
2:38:33 Speaker 02 Cause he was, yeah, that's what I was gonna say. He wasn't playing as long as some of these other people.
2:38:37 Joe Rogan? That's what's crazy. Um, range of symptoms, including emotional and behavioral changes, memory loss, and depression. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. It's not since ninety-one percent of the players.
2:38:51 Speaker 02 It's crazy too that you just keep playing football because you make so much money from it.
2:38:55 Joe Rogan? Well, I think Aaron Hernandez was a violent dude already. You know, there was like a lot of abuse in his childhood and there's a lot of crazy stuff.
2:39:03 Speaker 02 Sure.
2:39:03 Joe Rogan? I think there's a lot going on with that guy.
2:39:05 Speaker 02 Right, so he might have been a little unhinged to begin with.
2:39:08 Joe Rogan? He murdered a bunch of people, right? At least one. They think he murdered at least two.
2:39:12 Speaker 02 I thought it was like-
2:39:12 Joe Rogan? They think he murdered two.
2:39:13 Speaker 02 Yeah, I thought it was two.
2:39:15 Joe Rogan? But I think one is like confirmed. How many people did Aaron Hernandez murder?
2:39:19 Speaker 02 I know, I thought it was three.
2:39:21 Speaker 03 So, they're charged for one.
2:39:23 Joe Rogan? I mean dudes, uh, playing in the NFL.
2:39:25 Speaker 03 He's acquitted of a double homicide.
2:39:26 Joe Rogan? Playing in the NFL, superstar, also just gunning people down. With one of the worst examples of CT they've ever discovered.
2:39:36 Speaker 03 He was found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison.
2:39:39 Joe Rogan? Did he hang himself? Is that how he died? Did he hang himself?
2:39:43 Speaker 03 I believe so.
2:39:47 Joe Rogan? Imagine like, an injury, like that dude with the rod through the brain, and now all of a sudden, you're a totally different person. Like, all your life, you've been one person, and then, gone. That person's gone.
2:39:58 Speaker 02 It's kind of fun.
2:40:00 Joe Rogan? Maybe not.
2:40:01 Speaker 02 There's only one way to find out.
2:40:04 Joe Rogan? You would try, like, you'd want to know, like, how hard do I have to get hit in the head to be really good at math? Like, you don't want to overdo it?
2:40:10 Speaker 02 No, you don't want to. You're like, "Keep pushing me, I still can't figure this equation out."
2:40:14 Joe Rogan? "One more kick to the face, please. I think we're right there. I think I'm starting to see geometry."
2:40:20 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's crazy.
2:40:21 Joe Rogan? But it doesn't happen to everybody. That's what's weird.
2:40:24 Speaker 02 No.
2:40:24 Joe Rogan? Some people make some great comics, some people just make some brain-dead.
2:40:29 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:40:31 Speaker 02 There's a fine line.
2:40:32 Joe Rogan? There's a fine line.
2:40:33 Speaker 02 Between genius and brain-dead.
2:40:34 Joe Rogan? In everything, there's a fine line. Alright, should we wrap this up?
2:40:37 Speaker 02 Let's wrap it up.
2:40:38 Joe Rogan? It was really fun.
2:40:38 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:40:39 Joe Rogan? Always is. Thanks for being here.
2:40:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:40:40 Joe Rogan? You're very funny. I really enjoy your comedy. I love the risks you take, you know, you just go for it. It's fun to watch. It's great. It really is. It's fun. It's a different thing than anybody else is doing, and people love it. I think there's reason for that. And I think you're like, one of those people that they have to find out about you to appreciate you. And, you know, that happened with a lot of people. That happened with, like, Steven Wright, that happened with, like, Mitch Hedberg. Like, people had to, like, know what they're coming for, to really appreciate it.
2:41:07 Speaker 02 Do you remember that story? I don't know if, when Mitch Hedberg did his special for Comedy Central? It took so long because he was, like, bombing the whole way through.
2:41:17 Speaker 02 You've never heard that? I mean, and he's like, a genius, but like, his special, he was not doing well, and they kept filming it. And like, finally, he's like, sitting down on those stairs, because I think he had been at it for a while. And you watch that special, and it's like, hilarious. He's like, a genius, so funny. But like, yeah, in the room, it just was not going well.
2:41:34 Joe Rogan? Well, it all depended with Mitch on, also, who, is there a complimentary opening act that makes sense?
2:41:40 Speaker 02 Sure.
2:41:41 Joe Rogan? Like, he would have guys on the road, he would like, have a middle act on the road that the club would provide. And that dude would be doing backflips and singing songs.
2:41:48 Speaker 02 Right, that's not a great person for you to follow.
2:41:50 Joe Rogan? It's terrible. And so, people didn't know who he was back then. It was just, "Who's the headliner?" "Oh, there's a guy named Mitch Hedberg." Like, why does he have sunglasses on? Why is he staring at the ground?
2:41:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:41:59 Joe Rogan? But, once they knew who he was, then they would come to see him, and then it was awesome. And I think there's a thing like that with you.
2:42:05 Speaker 02 Well, what's funny too is like Louis, you know, directed and he's like, let's do this thing. At first, he was like, let's do this thing where nobody knows you're filming a special. He's like, you know, you're just going out there and like, you know, usually half the crowd loves me and half the crowd doesn't. So I was like, let's do one show like that. And that show, I tap danced the whole way and it was so brutal. I left that, the first two shows we did, I was like, the first one was okay and the second one was so brutal because none of them knew who I were. They didn't know I was doing a special. They just thought they were coming for a regular show. And I'm up there for an hour. And people, like, there was like seven people that liked me, but like,
2:42:43 Speaker 02 we all left so dejected. Like Louis was like, I can't even watch this. And Ari, I seen Ari being like so depressed. And then I went home that night and I was like, I'm gonna have to quit comedy.
2:42:54 Joe Rogan? Oh, my god.
2:42:55 Speaker 02 And then the next two shows the next night were amazing, but like, yes, I'm not for everyone.
2:42:59 Joe Rogan? Yeah, you're not for everybody.
2:43:01 Speaker 02 Not even my biological father.
2:43:05 Joe Rogan? Well, you're for me. I appreciate you.
2:43:06 Speaker 02 Well, thank you. Thanks for having me.
2:43:08 Joe Rogan? My pleasure. So, one more time, Jamie, show it. It's available now, Netflix, The Dark Queen. Tell people your Instagram, all that jazz.
2:43:17 Speaker 02 Uh, just my name, Adrian Appalucci.
2:43:19 Joe Rogan? Spell it, though, because people are like,
2:43:21 Speaker 02 Sure.
2:43:21 Joe Rogan? Appalucci must mean A.
2:43:23 Speaker 02 I know. Well, also too-
2:43:24 Joe Rogan? But you have an I first. This funky I.
2:43:27 Speaker 02 But everyone always thinks it's an L, so that's why I was like, we need to use
2:43:30 Joe Rogan? Oh.
2:43:31 Speaker 02 A font where it's an I. So it's A D R I E N N E, and then the last name's I A P A L U.
2:43:38 Joe Rogan? Have you ever thought about just changing your last name to an A? Just put an A there?
2:43:41 Speaker 02 I mean, everyone thinks it's an L.
2:43:42 Joe Rogan? How about just changing it, one big A? So people know how to say it.
2:43:45 Speaker 02 I feel like, I like being a little difficult.
2:43:48 Joe Rogan? You do? That makes sense. Keep it that way. Don't listen to me. Thank you very much. Appreciate you very much. Bye, everybody.
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