#2339 - Luis J. Gomez & Big Jay Oakerson

Luis J. Gomez is a comic, writer, and producer. He co-hosts several podcasts, including “Legion of Skanks,” “The Regz,” “Story Warz,” and “Real Ass Podcast.” You can watch his most recent special, “30 Minutes with Luis J. Gomez,” on YouTube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB1LwYbYq6U&t=2shttps://www.luisofskanks.com Big Jay Oakerson is a stand-up comedian, podcaster, and on-air personality. He co-hosts "The Legion of Skanks," "Story Warz," and "The Bonfire." His new crowd work specials, "Them" & "They" are now available on YouTube.www.bigjaycomedy.comhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T12MMZ69Z2Y Get a free welcome kit with your first subscription of AG1 at drinkag1.com/joerogan This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.

• 0:03Speaker 01

  The Joe Rogan Experience.

• 0:06Speaker 00

  Training by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

• 0:12Speaker 02

  Thanks, sir. I've been running.

• 0:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the ever greater and thinner, Big Jay Oakerson.

• 0:17Speaker 02

  Thank you, Manjaro. Shout out, Manjaro.

• 0:19Joe Rogan?

  You're looking good, dude.

• 0:20Speaker 02

  Big ups, Manjaro.

• 0:21Joe Rogan?

  It's nice to see, you know?

• 0:23Speaker 02

  I am exercising, too.

• 0:24Joe Rogan?

  Beautiful.

• 0:25Speaker 02

  You have to, or it will just be floppy and weird and gross.

• 0:28Joe Rogan?

  Or it'll eat your bones.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  I guess also, yes, it'll eat your bones, they say.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  I'm real big on taking this stuff and then not really following up with like, you know, I mean, I just started doing testosterone from a company that's like, you know, it's above board, taking it, but like, they're like, you should make sure you monitor your blood all the time. And I'm like, yeah, we'll get to that at some point. I'm gonna keep taking it, though.

• 0:52Joe Rogan?

  You don't monitor your blood at all?

• 0:54Speaker 02

  No, not me with any regularity, I think.

• 0:57Joe Rogan?

  You should probably do that.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, they did it there. I know. Someone I know says they take testosterone and they have to, like, donate blood every month to get blood. Because their blood's so thick?

• 1:06Joe Rogan?

  I talked to my doctor about it, because it really doesn't make sense. But he has heard of occasions where people had to do that.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  Unthickening their blood.

• 1:14Joe Rogan?

  Too much blood or something? They're like, how much are you taking? Like, what are you doing? Are you going ham, bro?

• 1:20Speaker 02

  This man's health company saw me coming down the road a mile away. They offered me, I'm taking two peptides, and I don't even know, we started.

• 1:26Joe Rogan?

  Sorry, we couldn't wait. Why even ask me? I gotta know, why, why you're on the door, I was like, this doesn't make sense, let's just start.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  I'm taking two peptides that feel like fire. It feels like fire when I inject them, but...

• 1:37Joe Rogan?

  Really? What are they?

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I don't know. Well, the BPC157, that's the one everyone's doing.

• 1:41Joe Rogan?

  Right, that's a good one.

• 1:42Speaker 02

  And then something that's blue.

• 1:44Joe Rogan?

  It's blue? Oh, methylene blue?

• 1:46Speaker 02

  I don't know, it burns.

• 1:47Joe Rogan?

  Wait a minute, methylene, hold up. Methylene blue, you're not supposed to inject.

• 1:51Speaker 02

  It's not that, then. It's G, it starts with a G, it's something with the letters, GH.

• 1:55Joe Rogan?

  Methylene blue is weird stuff. It's a, it's a dye for like fabrics that people take for its health benefits.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 2:04Joe Rogan?

  Like, it boosts mitochondria or something. Yeah, it's really weird. Like, what exactly does it do? I should ask, even though I take it.

• 2:13Joe Rogan?

  I don't take it all the time, but I have taken it, and I don't know, I couldn't, I couldn't describe, I couldn't explain exactly. Here it is. A medication used in the management and treatment of, what's that word?

• 2:26Joe Rogan?

  Meth.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 2:28Joe Rogan?

  Methemoglobin. Methemoglobinemia, meth, methemoglobinemia. A condition where hemoglobin decreases its ability to carry oxygen. Huh.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Straight up.

• 2:42Joe Rogan?

  But it started out as a fabric dye, I'm pretty sure. Right? Doesn't it say that?

• 2:49Speaker 02

  What does it do for humans?

• 2:51Joe Rogan?

  I think it was a dye. Yeah. Which is so weird that a dye would have health benefits.

• 2:58Speaker 02

  I grew up in a house of supplements. My stepfather was a powerlifter. So I only know about creatine.

• 3:03Joe Rogan?

  Sick.

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Uh. That's it. Creatine was another one that would show up in the house sometimes.

• 3:10Joe Rogan?

  Creatine?

• 3:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:12Joe Rogan?

  What's that?

• 3:12Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 3:13Speaker 04

  I think Jason can creatine twice and he's just remembering it wrong.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  Nah, it was another, it was another word. Cre- super creatine.

• 3:21Joe Rogan?

  Creatine's legit. That stuff's super good for you.

• 3:24Speaker 04

  I just started taking Tonga Ali for my, uh, my testosterone.

• 3:28Joe Rogan?

  Creatine is a waste product that forms from the breakdown of creatine in muscles. Huh.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  Hmm, why would I take it?

• 3:37Joe Rogan?

  There's another, uh, natural one. What is it? I think it's called turkesterone.

• 3:42Speaker 04

  I know Shilajit is good for testosterone.

• 3:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's a few of those.

• 3:45Speaker 04

  I, my doctor, I asked my doctor to put me on testosterone. I think we talked about it because you're like, dude, I got, don't worry, fuck your doctor. I got a doctor for you. And I was just like, yeah, maybe I, I'll just stop smoking weed.

• 3:56Joe Rogan?

  You think that was killing your testosterone?

• 3:58Speaker 04

  I think so. I was, it was like lower than it should have been. It was like in the high threes and now it's like mid fives.

• 4:04Joe Rogan?

  Well, like a good doctor, what they'll do first is ask you, like, what do you do for exercise? What are you eating? How much do you sleep? Like, those things are all the first thing the doctor will ask you. And if all that stuff's fucked up, they shouldn't just give you testosterone. They should be like, let's.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  My place did. Shut up, game day men's health.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Fifteen minutes, they'll give me anything I want in a needle.

• 4:25Joe Rogan?

  There's a few doctors out there that like to go buck wild.

• 4:27Speaker 04

  Of course.

• 4:28Joe Rogan?

  I think they get incentivized.

• 4:30Speaker 02

  I got PRP treatment in my hair, I'm not losing my hair. They just talked me into it, now it's never going away.

• 4:35Joe Rogan?

  PRP worked?

• 4:36Speaker 02

  I don't know, we're gonna find out, I just got it like two weeks ago.

• 4:39Speaker 04

  Jay has a mark. His hair's thinning, he's, it's definitely going.

• 4:45Joe Rogan?

  There's a bunch of topical stuff that you could use these days.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 4:49Joe Rogan?

  There's like a finasteride topical, but I would worry that that would get into your skin and into your bloodstream. Like that finasteride stuff is crazy, like that makes some people very depressed. It kills your DHT, which is what keeps your hair from falling out. And for some people, they just, it kills their testosterone, they get like super depressed.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, I started losing my hair when I was 18, I just said fuck it, I was bald, that's it.

• 5:12Joe Rogan?

  I love not having to talk to a barber.

• 5:14Speaker 02

  That's the best, you shave it, which is a big razor.

• 5:16Joe Rogan?

  Everyone is fucking.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  Well, how do you find out how much that your barber doesn't know you, but is a big fan of Ralph Barbosa? You guys aren't gonna find out.

• 5:24Joe Rogan?

  Is that what you get from your barber? I don't know you, but Ralph Barbosa's the fucking man, dog.

• 5:31Speaker 02

  Oh Kenny, his name's Kenny, he's a nice enough guy.

• 5:34Joe Rogan?

  Ralph Barbosa's slick, he's like a slick comedian, like his punchlines are like smooth, you know?

• 5:40Speaker 02

  Very funny man.

• 5:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's got a great.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  Fully loaded with them.

• 5:43Joe Rogan?

  He's like, he makes, he's got a fun, like just his approach, I like it, it's very slick.

• 5:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 5:49Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 5:49Speaker 02

  And he's sending the elevator down, I mean, he's going taking guys on tour that I've never heard of, but I think have been around for a long time.

• 5:55Joe Rogan?

  That's great.

• 5:56Speaker 02

  Cool move.

• 5:56Joe Rogan?

  That's great, yeah, very good dude, he hung out with us at the mothership one night, fun guy.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, he got popular for, uh, he like, someone said on like George Lopez's show or something, they were like, this guy sucks. Well, no, George Lopez was like, I don't get it, he's just whatever, and then.

• 6:12Joe Rogan?

  Well, someone was, I think someone was talking well about him, and then George Lopez was very dismissive of him. And I think that's what happened.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  And someone asked Ralph about it on some, on something, and his response, I think is what made it like very popular. I think he was just saying, cause he goes, he doesn't like me, some, one of those, one of those comics goes like, oh the lay.

• 6:31Speaker 02

  And I think that just, you know, you show any picture of George Lopez bugging his eyes out and make that hilarious.

• 6:35Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 6:38Speaker 02

  It's good, fucking good fire back.

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• 9:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Are you good at living in comedy beefs? I'm so terrible at it.

• 9:10Joe Rogan?

  No, I don't like comedy beefs. I don't like, I don't like any beefs.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  Louis, you've been in a few where you've gone to bed on, I mean, I guess I have those same beefs too, but I don't engage as much.

• 9:19Speaker 04

  No, I'm the loser. I just, I get on a flight and I'll be on Twitter for fucking hours just tweeting at people for no reason.

• 9:25Speaker 02

  No, but I mean like particular like a, a person you could put a face to, like a comic, like I, I, not that I haven't had a problem with somebody before. Um, but I mean, like, I don't know. I have a hard time like sleeping on like, I'm gonna run this person every night and we hate each other.

• 9:38Speaker 04

  It's been a while. I mean, I, I'm not, it's just not that serious. There's nobody in the world that I hate. Like there's literally no, even people that hate me. I'm like, yeah, dude. We're cool.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  The guy that murdered your father?

• 9:48Speaker 04

  Uh, dude, I tried to get him on my podcast.

• 9:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 9:51Speaker 04

  Uh, so the guy, uh, my father was stabbed to death when I was four years old. And then years later, after I got out of prison, I was like, let me try to get this guy on my podcast and interview him. How interesting would that be?

• 10:00Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 10:01Speaker 04

  Um, but he was already dead.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:03Joe Rogan?

  Dude, that would have been insane.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. Cause I didn't, I wasn't like, cause I was a kid.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Why?

• 10:08Joe Rogan?

  Can you imagine now being like a fucking 75 year old man? Like showing up at this young guy's house who you stabbed his dad and you're gonna be alone together? That guy's gonna kill you.

• 10:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe.

• 10:19Joe Rogan?

  That's what I would think. If I was an old man, I couldn't defend myself.

• 10:22Speaker 04

  I don't think he was that old. He was 17 when he killed my father.

• 10:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh wow.

• 10:25Speaker 04

  So he was only 13 years older than me. So he'd be like 60 now, I guess. Yeah, but this is like a decade ago that I was gonna do.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  That guy's a convicted murderer, dude. He could fuck your shit up.

• 10:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, but he was a kid and my father beat him up. My father was a bully.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  What if Conor McGregor goes, well Louis, I'd like to say I apologize to absolutely fucking nobody at all.

• 10:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, um, but I thought that would have been an interesting conversation. I wasn't like going into it being like, oh, you've killed my father. I'm angry. I got a great life. My father lived. I would be fucking, probably living Patterson, New Jersey still. I have a shit life. My father was a-

• 11:00Speaker 02

  That's what we always tell ourselves.

• 11:01Speaker 04

  A drug dealer and a pimp. If he, if he was alive.

• 11:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it worked out well.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's always, I said, hey, my dad stuck around. Maybe I wouldn't have the personality of having, I wouldn't be where I'm at. So, maybe it'll be way better.

• 11:13Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 11:14Speaker 04

  Well, I wouldn't have my kid-

• 11:14Speaker 02

  Maybe I'd be ahead of state or something.

• 11:16Speaker 04

  Like if I, that one sperm had hit that one egg, I wouldn't have my son right now if my father was alive. If anything happened differently.

• 11:22Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 11:23Speaker 02

  All right, Ashton Kutcher.

• 11:24Joe Rogan?

  That's the-

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Butterfly effect over here. Guy watches one movie, all of a sudden he's got to figure it out. Hey, you guys ever think maybe we're just plugged into a pod somewhere? And this is all nothing? I'm gonna see if I could fly real quick.

• 11:36Joe Rogan?

  I think there's something to that we're plugged into something. It seems more like it every day. It seems like this is like an advanced stage of the video game right now. Where like they're lighting cop cars on fire in LA and throwing bricks off of overpasses.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  Dude, it does seem fun to order a Waymo and light it on fire. Nobody gets hurt. It's just hilarious.

• 11:54Joe Rogan?

  And I think it's directionally correct. You're like, you should probably start killing robots. Like you guys are, you're on the right course.

• 12:01Speaker 04

  They're early on the war.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  I'm trying to stop the Terminator.

• 12:06Joe Rogan?

  Bro, these are all gonna be owned by corporations and it's gonna be the only way you're allowed to get around. Cause they're the safest. They're gonna take away everybody's driver's license. It's gonna get weird as fuck.

• 12:17Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. But it's gonna probably be better. The car's gonna go 200 miles an hour probably. Traffic will be eliminated.

• 12:21Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I think there're gonna be more of these fucking things that we just saw in LA. That's what I think.

• 12:26Speaker 04

  I've heard that, uh, teenagers are going back to smoking regular cigarettes now and getting away from vapes. We might move back analog a little bit.

• 12:32Joe Rogan?

  Hmm, interesting. Bring back manual cars.

• 12:35Speaker 04

  I wonder if analog makes some sort of, where it slows down because people want it to slow down a little bit.

• 12:41Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but it's too late. They they do want to slow it down. Yeah.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  I mean, the electric car didn't really take off the way they'd hoped.

• 12:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the problem with electric cars is the charging time's too much. It's too much. If you're a young, single woman and you have to charge your car and you have to just sit there for a fucking hour.

• 12:56Speaker 04

  I feel I also feel that way, so I feel like you're just probably a young, single woman.

• 12:59Joe Rogan?

  Well, you're you're a man. We meet any human. Any human's vulnerable. But a like a woman by herself is particularly vulnerable, right? Like, if you're a hot girl and you're sitting in your car.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Weak, stupid.

• 13:10Joe Rogan?

  How many fucking creeps that know that you have to be there for an hour? How many creeps can bother you?

• 13:14Speaker 04

  That's a great idea, Joe.

• 13:16Joe Rogan?

  There you go.

• 13:17Speaker 04

  I'm gonna start getting girls at the fucking charging stations.

• 13:20Joe Rogan?

  I almost rented a Tesla once. Get a large order and just walk down the aisle of Teslas waiting to find a hot one.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  Look, yeah, dude. A Tesla doc slut?

• 13:29Speaker 04

  Have you have you ever driven one?

• 13:31Speaker 02

  Nah, dude. From the seventies. Don't trust that electric shit.

• 13:34Speaker 04

  I tried it. I was gonna rent one once and I they gave me the keys and I was like, I was like, this is gonna be fun. And then I remembered you have to charge it. I was like, I gotta drive to fucking Rhode Island right now. I was like, I'm gonna have to stop halfway there and charge the car.

• 13:44Speaker 02

  I think you can get there. It's just then you have to charge it.

• 13:47Speaker 04

  No, I don't think we wouldn't have made it.

• 13:49Joe Rogan?

  No, it's like the real mileage is different than the mileage it says. So it really should say like percentage of battery, but they want you to like estimate the mileage, but it's all dependent upon how fast you're going. Like, if you're accelerating a lot, if you're moving around, if you just stop and go traffic, like who knows what the real mileage is? If you're on, like, say if you get stuck in a crazy traffic jam for like four hours, like there's some explosion somewhere, like, and you you supposedly have two hundred miles on your car. Is that good for four hours of you sitting there too with the radio on, with the air conditioning on, like?

• 14:23Speaker 02

  So are we? We're team Trump then, not Elon? Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck your stupid car.

• 14:29Joe Rogan?

  If it's cold, they die quick. They die quicker. Yeah, that happened in Chicago. Remember when they had that fucking big thing where the highway got closed down and people in Teslas were fucked, man? Because they just stopped working.

• 14:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Also, if you blow a tire, like Tesla has to come fix that.

• 14:42Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 14:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:44Joe Rogan?

  Why's that?

• 14:44Speaker 02

  I don't know. But like they have to come handle it.

• 14:46Joe Rogan?

  The function of Teslas, though, is amazing. Dude, they're amazing. They They fucking drive themselves. You press the, he's like.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  You trust that?

• 14:57Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. And I go, and it just takes you wherever you want it to go. It changes lanes. Bro, it's nuts. You could, you could put on like, dark sunglasses at night and just like have your hands on the wheel. It's that good.

• 15:10Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, no, no.

• 15:12Joe Rogan?

  I don't do it. I don't do it, but I have done it. Where, but I keep my hand near the wheel just to see what it can do. It does everything.

• 15:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, that's a bunch, but I did, I get like road paralysis where like if I'm like driving for more than an hour and I'm looking at the lines, not paralysis, I'm hitting the, what do they call it? Like road hypnosis. So I'll get hypnotized by the lines and I start to, I start falling asleep. If I have to drive for more than an hour or two at night.

• 15:35Joe Rogan?

  You know how to fix that? Do you know how to fix that? It's real easy.

• 15:38Speaker 04

  Uh, cocaine.

• 15:38Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, um.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  No, that's not good cocaine.

• 15:41Joe Rogan?

  That'll work too. You're right. But you have to keep doing it over and over again. Um, get some ice and um, uh, just a washcloth. A washcloth with, the wet washcloth with ice in it and just rub your face.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  Rub your face with it.

• 15:53Joe Rogan?

  Right up. You wake right up. And it lasts for like five.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Washer you keep in your car.

• 15:59Speaker 04

  The uh, the smelling salts you have in the club.

• 16:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, those will do it.

• 16:02Speaker 04

  Those will do it. I do, I did a terrible prank.

• 16:04Joe Rogan?

  Fuck you up. You're like, you might change lanes.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  You maybe shouldn't tell this. It might be illegal what you've done.

• 16:08Speaker 04

  No, it's not illegal. It's definitely, this is, I will say it's a bad prank to do on a girl. If this was a dude.

• 16:13Joe Rogan?

  To do the, eh, this is a crazy, dangerous prank.

• 16:15Speaker 04

  A dude, everyone would have been like, dude, great prank. But because I did it to a girl, it was a little bit fucked up. So we were at the mothership last time we were doing our podcast. And um, our producer Alex is a girl and uh, she's a big pothead, huge pothead, like real deal. So as, as podcast producers are.

• 16:32Speaker 02

  Also a mother and a wonderful producer.

• 16:34Speaker 04

  And a mother, yes. Um, better producer than mother. No, she's great. So I pull, I had the smelling salts and I was like, oh, these are fucking strong. They're really particularly strong smelling salts. So then I go, Alex, I was like, this weed is fucking great. Give it a whiff. Then I gave her the smelling salt container. She put her nose in it, dude, she sniffed so hard. You know how potheads wanna smell weed. She, I mean, she cried.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  There's a thirty minute problem.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  She said the word why a lot. It was like when Nancy, remember Nancy Kerrigan got slugged out by the fuck. She's like, why? I sweat blood for you. I flew here for, to help you produce a show.

• 17:11Speaker 04

  I felt so bad.

• 17:12Joe Rogan?

  You should not do that.

• 17:13Speaker 04

  It was, it was, I, I, now, it was a bad prank, but if it was a dude.

• 17:16Speaker 02

  That's big of you.

• 17:18Speaker 04

  If that was a dude, is it not just undeniably hilarious?

• 17:21Speaker 02

  Brutal.

• 17:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, if it's a guy, it's funny.

• 17:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  Funny-er.

• 17:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's funny. It's weird.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  It wasn't.

• 17:28Joe Rogan?

  If it's a guy, it's funny. Depend on the guy, you know? Like if you, you know, if you did it to David Tell, it'd be mean.

• 17:35Speaker 04

  No, it'd be funny. You do it to Kurt Metzger, he just starts punching balls.

• 17:39Joe Rogan?

  He's rattled off conspiracy theories.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  Pretty girls being embarrassed, though, is funny as shit.

• 17:43Speaker 04

  It's hilarious.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  It is the most evening factor ever. I did a, uh, when I was on tour with the bands years ago, uh, Korn did a Jägermeister music tour. They always had the Jäger Girls would hang out and I was on the Jägermeister production bus on this tour. So, the girls would all come on there, they would come and hang out and drink for free on the bus. And, you know, tour buses, you're not allowed to shit on a tour bus. And only one of the Jäger Girls asked if she could use the bathroom. It was just in the time we were there, and she went, gorgeous girl. And she came back out and she was sitting down, and then the driver comes to start getting the bus ready to leave. And just, you know, a toothless fucking road dog just comes in the bus and you go, "Somebody took a shit." And everybody knew it was this hot chicken fish nets.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  And I mean, just the thing, it was, she was so beautiful that me, probably my heaviest of my life, I was like, I probably could get her now. She's the shit girl. No one's seeking her out, and I'll still do it.

• 18:38Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  You can't clean up that good in a fucking.

• 18:42Speaker 04

  So it's such a function that everybody has, but for some reason, I never want to hear about a woman shitting, ever.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Now, what about the, the MTV girl?

• 18:51Joe Rogan?

  Why don't they develop a toilet that you can shit on, on a bus? Is that beyond our science?

• 18:55Speaker 02

  I don't know why it can't be, I'm sure there's something that can be done.

• 18:59Joe Rogan?

  It seems like it should be done. I think they're just being lazy. No shitting on the tour bus. What if you have to take a shit? That's crazy.

• 19:05Speaker 04

  Because they have to empty it out, that's the problem. So they, I think you, you can, you can shit on the tour bus, but the person that has to clean the toilet has to now empty out your shit amongst the piss.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Like manually, with like a hose and shit, that's what's crazy.

• 19:18Speaker 04

  It's some dude's job that he has to like, deal with.

• 19:21Speaker 02

  There should be something where you could pull over and those rest stops have like a thing that sucks your shit out.

• 19:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Like out of the tank.

• 19:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that'd be very profitable for them. What are they gonna do? They'd have to store it. No, you figure it out. That's the last thing you want to do is be in shit storage.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  Truck stop, yeah.

• 19:38Joe Rogan?

  Truck stop shit storage.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  They're sucking my shit out outside. I'm in here buying jerky.

• 19:42Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 19:43Speaker 05

  The Dave Matthews Band.

• 19:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's right.

• 19:46Speaker 05

  Incident in Chicago.

• 19:46Joe Rogan?

  That's right.

• 19:47Speaker 05

  The bus driver let that stuff out over the water and a boat went underneath it.

• 19:53Joe Rogan?

  And splattered the boat with doo doo from Dave Matthews Band.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Didn't you see a thing recently where they got, they show like a cruise ship or something just letting shit out of the front?

• 20:01Joe Rogan?

  Uh, I don't think that's real. I think, I thought that was real too. I think that's like dredging.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  I'll be suckered in a heartbeat by an AI thing.

• 20:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  Do you know that super hot Down Central girl? Is it, isn't real?

• 20:13Joe Rogan?

  Damn.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  That OnlyFans AI Down Central girl?

• 20:16Joe Rogan?

  Oh, don't I know it.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  God damn.

• 20:18Joe Rogan?

  Bro, nothing's real anymore. How many videos have you seen? Like, I saw a thing about Trump saying that they were gonna genetically engineer Raptors and have the fucking troops ride them to protect the border.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  That's not real.

• 20:28Joe Rogan?

  But it's like you see him, that, you know, they brought back the dire wolf.

• 20:32Speaker 02

  Could it be done?

• 20:34Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's so hard to tell now.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  Weaponizing dinosaurs would be the funniest thing in the world.

• 20:39Joe Rogan?

  Oh, is that fake?

• 20:40Speaker 05

  Well, it's like a quick series of four or five little fake ones, but they look, they look real and then they just go like, this isn't real, by the way.

• 20:48Speaker 06

  I from the Cedar Grove flood disaster. Just kidding. I'm not real.

• 20:55Speaker 06

  This is Dana Brooks, reporting live from Ocean View Beach.

• 21:01Speaker 06

  Just kidding. I'm not real. This is Charlotte Reed, reporting live from Clearwater Beach, where an unidentified...

• 21:09Speaker 06

  Just kidding. I'm not real. Angela Carter.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  What the fuck? The Kraken's real. I'm fake.

• 21:16Joe Rogan?

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• 22:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, it is crazy. Well, I mean, the amount of like deep fakes.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  I'm starting to think you and Theo Von aren't two babies talking to each other.

• 22:37Speaker 04

  I watch ads with you all the time. Companies just use your voice in AI. Now, I sent you one at one point where it's just like, I was like, I know this is not Joe glazing this fucking weird company for, you know, a 10-minute read. It was like, they really got him to do this, huh?

• 22:52Joe Rogan?

  So strange.

• 22:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. Do you try to put a stop to that? Or you just say fuck it?

• 22:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, you try, but.

• 22:56Speaker 05

  The guy who made that said it took 25 minutes.

• 22:58Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 22:59Speaker 02

  I told a racist street joke on Legion of Skanks 10 years ago, and me saying the N-word has been used in so many memes and little.

• 23:09Speaker 04

  But it's so funny, there's black people react to it, and it's such a funny street joke that they can't deny it. It's like an undeniably funny thing. So it's always black people trying to not laugh, and they say it, and then like, that's pretty funny.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  Pretty great street joke.

• 23:21Joe Rogan?

  Some words are coming back. That one's not one of them.

• 23:27Speaker 04

  No.

• 23:27Joe Rogan?

  Bro, these ICE raids are fucking nuts, man. Watching this protest on television, it's like.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Do you think the raids are nuts? The protest?

• 23:36Joe Rogan?

  All of it.

• 23:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:37Speaker 04

  I think both sides are taking it a little too hard.

• 23:40Joe Rogan?

  Well.

• 23:42Joe Rogan?

  I don't think if they, the Trump administration, if they're running and they said, we're gonna go to Home Depot. And we're gonna arrest all the people at Home Depot, we're gonna go to construction sites and we're gonna just like, tackle people at constructions. I don't think anybody would have signed up for that. They said, we're gonna get rid of the criminals and the gang members first, right? And now we're, we're seeing like Home Depots get raided. Like, that's crazy.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:07Joe Rogan?

  And then you've got this, uh, big protest that's scheduled for the fourteenth that's literally funded by the lady who owns Walmart.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  To protest, uh-

• 24:16Joe Rogan?

  Protest, it's like No Kings. It's like a No Kings protest that's happening all across the country.

• 24:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, like criminals and rapists and, you know, obviously, but they go to like a college campus and there's a kid about to graduate, they're like, no, you're out. It's fucked up.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  Rapists, criminals, slow delivery people, um, ones that can't dance or play the flamenco guitar. I've got a list. Um, I think it's fucking crazy how violent it's gotten. I don't-

• 24:45Joe Rogan?

  I mean, they're throwing bricks over overpasses.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  That's what I mean, but again, I think all these things, ninety percent of the people that are there are just like, let's rage, motherfucker.

• 24:54Joe Rogan?

  Oh, one hundred percent. Also, there's people that are saying they're being paid to protest.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're saying they're, uh-

• 25:00Speaker 02

  It's always the bricks, piles of bricks are showing up, like, you know, there's construction sites around the city.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  No, no, no, that was weird, dude. I was in the city during that time, we were too, during the pandemic. No, those bricks were just fucking out there.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  I was on a police block. I was barricaded in with them. And I felt bad for the black cops.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  No, one day there was no bricks.

• 25:16Speaker 02

  The black cops and the black cops were like, sorry, man. And I had my hand on his shoulder, like, you're gonna be alright.

• 25:22Joe Rogan?

  Did you see the video of the cops getting the rocks thrown at them from the overpass?

• 25:26Speaker 02

  It's crazy. They had to hide under the overpass.

• 25:28Joe Rogan?

  They're throwing them at the cops. I mean, you, you, you're one hundred percent possibly killing someone.

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's attempted murder.

• 25:34Joe Rogan?

  You could, you had a fucking cinder block brick onto someone's head from an overpass, they're probably dead. It's a good chance. Good fucking chance, man.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  If Lord of the Flies taught us anything, that's how Piggy died. That's who I related to.

• 25:49Joe Rogan?

  This kind of shit can escalate.

• 25:50Speaker 04

  I feel of The Good Son where they pushed the dummy off the overpass.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 04

  Remember?

• 25:55Speaker 02

  Make him think they killed somebody. It's fucking, it's pretty wild what's going on, but I mean, I don't know, like, I said, everybody running out of like Louis Vuitton with a bunch of like- Shirts and shit.

• 26:04Joe Rogan?

  You seen that?

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's happening too?

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:07Speaker 04

  Oh, they're looting, yeah.

• 26:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're looting. I didn't know they were looting too.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Hardcore. And I said, it's funny.

• 26:11Speaker 04

  Which if I was a nineteen year old kid, I would be out there looting unquestionably.

• 26:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, as soon as lawlessness happens, people take advantage. It's always, that's always gonna be the case, right?

• 26:20Speaker 02

  That's what I think the whole, it is funny. I mean, like, these cops are just standing there and like, just under nonstop graffiti, it's like, murder all cops. They're just like, sitting there. It's like, and the people are, there's somebody, some people try to talk reason to them, to the cops. Like, why don't you do the right thing and not shoot me with a rubber bullet?

• 26:38Joe Rogan?

  Well, you know what the problem is? The problem is there's cops that just shoot people with rubber bullets for no reason.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:44Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that lady, that Australian reporter that got shot? Did you see that video?

• 26:47Speaker 02

  It's pretty hilarious.

• 26:48Joe Rogan?

  It's nuts. Cause you see the guy do it. You see the cop. Just look at her while she's talking. She's clearly not a criminal. She's just reporting the news. And he fucking shoots her in the leg with a rubber bullet.

• 26:58Speaker 04

  The leg's hilarious.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  It's really good stuff.

• 27:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, let's watch this.

• 27:01Speaker 04

  That's funnier than making my producer smell smelling salts.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  Dude, it's a real dance bitch moment. Dance bitch.

• 27:07Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. It, I mean, I can't, I can't believe that he would do this.

• 27:12Speaker 04

  This is the chick?

• 27:12Joe Rogan?

  Go full screen, please.

• 27:16Joe Rogan?

  Watch this. This is nuts.

• 27:25Speaker 04

  She's got that shitty Australian accent though.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Dance bitch.

• 27:34Joe Rogan?

  Bro, they just shot a reporter. Like, look, that guy just points and says, fuck this lady.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  It's gonna be good promotional for her two thousand person gangbang she's doing on OnlyFans this summer.

• 27:46Joe Rogan?

  I mean, what is that? Do you wanna know why people get angry at cops? It's shit like that.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  I would say you shoot a white woman every couple of minutes and everyone starts going like, oh, they're shooting everybody.

• 27:57Joe Rogan?

  Is that a thing where you're kicking everybody out of the street and the press thinks they don't have to listen? And so you don't wanna listen, you're tired of this shit and you decide to shoot her in the leg? Which is fucking insane. That's so insane. You don't, you don't yell, lady, get out of the fucking street. You just shoot her.

• 28:15Speaker 05

  This one happened too. After this minute goes down, this guy ends up shooting him at close range.

• 28:19Joe Rogan?

  What is this about?

• 28:20Speaker 05

  Forty millimeter.

• 28:23Speaker 00

  What's your badge number? That's okay, I'm gonna pop you right now, cause you're taking up my focus.

• 28:30Joe Rogan?

  Whoa, I'm gonna pop you right now, cause you're taking up my focus?

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Look, it's not okay. It's not okay. But, I will say, I grew up at a time where if you talk shit to cops, nobody had camera phones, nobody had anything, a cop would just fuck you up, and there's something hilarious about that cop just shooting that guy in the dick.

• 28:46Joe Rogan?

  There's a thing about them rubber bullets, like you're shooting somebody, but you're not shooting them. You're kinda half-shooting them.

• 28:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:52Joe Rogan?

  Right? But it's, you are like, fuck, you want, you wanna do is shoot them. Right? And you're not allowed to, it's against the law, and it's not right, so you shoot them with a rubber bullet.

• 29:01Speaker 04

  And it's not right.

• 29:02Joe Rogan?

  But you can shoot people when you really shouldn't be shooting them with a rubber bullet.

• 29:05Speaker 04

  I feel like getting shot in the dick with a rubber bullet could have irreparable damages.

• 29:09Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent.

• 29:10Speaker 04

  I mean-

• 29:10Joe Rogan?

  People have lost eyeballs, bro.

• 29:12Speaker 05

  This happened in 2020, this guy had to have portions of his genitalia reattached.

• 29:15Speaker 04

  I do have a hard time feeling-

• 29:16Joe Rogan?

  What, say what? Say that again?

• 29:17Speaker 05

  It says there.

• 29:19Joe Rogan?

  He later had to have surgery to reattach portions of his genitalia. Portions? What are they, serving it?

• 29:24Speaker 04

  How big is this guy's dick?

• 29:26Joe Rogan?

  What kind of a dick does this guy have?

• 29:27Speaker 04

  I wish, I wish my dick could be cut up into portions.

• 29:29Joe Rogan?

  How weird is that?

• 29:30Speaker 02

  He just knocked out the middle.

• 29:32Joe Rogan?

  Is it which one you have for breakfast?

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Oh man, if he break, if he broke the middle off, I'd be like, can you give me a longer middle? Can you put a longer middle back on?

• 29:40Joe Rogan?

  A good extension?

• 29:42Speaker 02

  I don't care if it's a different color, just try to match it as best you can.

• 29:44Joe Rogan?

  All this gene editing, how far away are we from big dicks?

• 29:48Speaker 02

  Oh, you think it'd be the first thing?

• 29:49Joe Rogan?

  I wouldn't think they'd have been working that out.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  Depends who comes up with the science, if the Asians come up with the science, that's first thing.

• 29:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, they have the science with genetic engineering now.

• 29:57Speaker 04

  Oh, so you're saying before your baby's inborn, you'd be like, hey, also, I want my son to have a huge fucking dick? That's a weird conversation to have.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  I'm thinking monster cock.

• 30:06Joe Rogan?

  If you just let your kid have a regular dick and all his friends have giant dicks, that'd be a real problem. Your kid would be so upset. You mean, you could've given me a giant dick as well, Dad?

• 30:15Speaker 02

  Oh, I wanted people to like you for you.

• 30:16Joe Rogan?

  I needed money for bowling.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  Oh great, I'll be upstairs jerking off with three fingers. If anyone needs me, alone, with no friends.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  I just remember being like 12, being like, when is it gonna grow? Like, when's it gonna get big? And it just never really did.

• 30:29Speaker 02

  You just kept having that conversation with yourself?

• 30:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  Come on bud.

• 30:32Speaker 04

  Up until I was a full-fledged adult.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  Come on bud, now's the time.

• 30:36Joe Rogan?

  It's a sketch on Segura's new show. There's some sort of-

• 30:39Speaker 04

  That's a funny show.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Very funny, yeah.

• 30:40Joe Rogan?

  Fucking funny show, man. The Hitman one was hilarious.

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were. I thought the, uh, the video game where the, uh, the, you play with aliens raping humans.

• 30:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I've seen that one, yeah.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  He said it wasn't, it wasn't about the guy and it said part two was called Evans Revenge.

• 30:56Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jamie, speaking to UFOs, did you see Lou Elizondo, these photos that are supposedly of a real alien?

• 31:02Speaker 02

  Oh, here we go.

• 31:04Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's so dumb. The photos look blurry. Of the photos of the dead alien, like you can't even zoom in on that? You can't even fucking focus? Look at these, yeah, that thing, look at that. What is that? What's that? What is that? How about better pictures? This is crazy. These are the only pictures? Is this from the 40s? Like, what's this picture from? What is this?

• 31:29Speaker 02

  Oh, people wanna believe.

• 31:30Joe Rogan?

  Bro, so bad. Me too. I'm like, maybe, maybe the bottom one.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  It was funny, somebody asked me, uh, you know, um, Sean Donnelly and Dan St. Germain have a, a podcast now about alien encounters and all that kinda stuff.

• 31:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 31:43Speaker 02

  And they both really believe it and they were like, "What would it take for you to believe, Jay?" I was like, "Irrefutable evidence."

• 31:49Speaker 04

  I have to shake hands with an alien.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  The one, the one thing I've never seen, irrefutable evidence?

• 31:53Joe Rogan?

  There's a lot of shenanigans going on, for sure.

• 31:56Speaker 05

  On the back of one of those photos.

• 31:57Joe Rogan?

  Alien, oh, it's 1993. Alien hybrid child, uh, born to a 15-year-old girl, subject of ET genetic experiment. Under chin, neck, and upper torso view. Right.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:13Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, okay, so that's under chin. And then what's the other photo?

• 32:19Speaker 05

  It's the same, it's just the same, it's just one photo.

• 32:21Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't there another one? It seems like there's two photos.

• 32:23Speaker 05

  That's just with this particular one.

• 32:24Joe Rogan?

  That, but at the top, yeah, the one on the bottom. What's that one on the bottom? The one on the bottom seems a little, like, turned to the side, right? Is that the eyeballs supposedly?

• 32:33Speaker 02

  What are those babies called that are born like that?

• 32:36Speaker 04

  Oh, Harlequin babies?

• 32:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:38Joe Rogan?

  It could be anything, man. I mean, it might not even be human. I mean, it might not even be, you know, who fucking knows?

• 32:45Speaker 02

  Do you think, I mean, like, someone like Donald Trump can hold in the information like about his daily day?

• 32:50Joe Rogan?

  I don't think they tell him. I don't think he cares. He's playing golf.

• 32:53Speaker 02

  But who can sit on that information if you know that? Wouldn't it be terrifying to, you know, it's almost that, to play? Someone who knows about aliens existing, think also breaks off and plays golf and decides what they want to have for dinner tonight?

• 33:06Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 33:07Speaker 02

  Really?

• 33:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, I think.

• 33:09Speaker 02

  It's like finding out vampires exist. It would change everything.

• 33:11Joe Rogan?

  I think it's a fun way to have information that you don't give to the rest of the world. And if you're the head of a giant defense contracting agency that's been back engineering UFOs for the last fifty years, it'd be probably pretty cool to know some shit that other people don't know and not tell anybody and still go to brunch.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  But how are you not so consumed that you go, hey, you want to start a new Netflix series tonight? Like, it just seems like you'd be, it's the same way I don't believe people have, like, speaking to the dead powers or psychic powers. I'm like, you'd be, you know what I mean? It's never like, oh, what is that? Tell your loved one that you miss them terribly? Uh, they miss you terribly. I'm actually, you guys went to McDonald's? I'll treat myself to some McDonald's. Like, how did your mind go anywhere else but, like, I'd speak to the dead? That would be consuming.

• 33:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, I would never sleep.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  It's supernatural.

• 33:58Joe Rogan?

  All day, talking to somebody about the war of seventeen seventy-six.

• 34:01Speaker 02

  You'd just go nuts. It's just real.

• 34:03Speaker 04

  There was a video on.

• 34:04Joe Rogan?

  You just tune in anytime and talk to, like, some Civil War soldiers.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  You don't have a faith, you don't go pick out a new pair of sneakers while that's going on. I didn't use sneakers, I think.

• 34:12Speaker 04

  Did you see a video where it was like somebody, it might not even, I don't know if it was real, but she was like a girl who has, like, paranoid schizophrenia? And she created, like, a video of what it's like to have schizophrenia.

• 34:21Joe Rogan?

  Oh, my God.

• 34:22Speaker 04

  It's like these, like, floating, like, almost like.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:24Speaker 04

  Like.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  Monsters, sort of.

• 34:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, but they're like translucent, and it's like just all these voices whispering. It's like if that, if that's how it really is to have schizophrenia. That, I mean, I couldn't make it a day.

• 34:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think it varies like a lot of different neurological conditions, right? I think, you know, there's extreme versions of it, and some people have, like, mild schizophrenia, which is really weird.

• 34:47Speaker 02

  Well, I've been impressed, I have someone close to me in my life that said mania, where they go manic. And I've only seen it twice.

• 34:55Speaker 04

  It's Hulk Hogan.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  It's Hulk Hogan. I've only seen it twice then, but I mean, I'm blown away by how much your brain can like, change functionality in a day, in a day's difference. Being like, everything's changing, you know, they're saying things that they've never said before and believing it and being like, you know, I mean, it's very strange.

• 35:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, if you think about your body, yeah, it is scary, but if you think about your body as a whole, things go wrong in your body and well, things go wrong in your brain too. It's like, you know, you can't blame someone for having liver cancer. Right? Sometimes people just get weird diseases, you know, and the, the mental thing is a weird one, man. Cause there, there's people that it's just like something isn't clicking. It's just not working right. You know, and they don't know what to do. And they're out there in the world and they're trying a bunch of different medications on them and they don't know what to do.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  So you can't be mad at Kurt Metzger.

• 35:43Joe Rogan?

  Can't be mad at Kurt Metzger. I couldn't imagine, this is what I always try to, I always try to think about when I'm talking to somebody. I can't imagine what it's like to be them. Like, what is it like? What's it like to be Metzger?

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Oh my.

• 35:54Joe Rogan?

  What's it like to be filled with conspiracies? Just over and know so much about like secret societies.

• 36:00Speaker 04

  And nobody believes you.

• 36:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and nobody believes you and.

• 36:03Speaker 02

  And everyone's kind of like, hey, man, we're just trying to smoke a joint in the green room.

• 36:06Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he hovers. He hovers over you like a gargoyle. He's a goon. He's this giant dude and he hovers over you. Oh, you didn't know?

• 36:14Speaker 02

  I haven't seen.

• 36:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you didn't know?

• 36:15Speaker 02

  Last time I was at in LA when he, when he still lived in LA. He came over to the Airbnb I was at and always Kurt, I haven't seen Kurt always in like, months and months between when I get to see him. He's one of my oldest, closest friends in comedy. He's my daughter's godfather, you know, very close to him.

• 36:29Speaker 04

  Which is a crazy choice.

• 36:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's crazy.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  That's on Jay.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  It was a strange choice, but he's a good godfather.

• 36:35Joe Rogan?

  He's a great guy.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  He's great. And, uh, yeah, him and my daughter have a great relationship. It's fantastic, but he is a whacker for sure. And he came in to the house. I was like, my man, it's good to see you. And he goes, you know, the P Diddy thing is real and that's why Usher, that, that, that audio of him fucking that guy was real and that's, and he got Usher first and that's why Usher, remember when Usher, uh, was gone for a year because he had to get his asshole sewn back together?

• 37:01Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 37:03Joe Rogan?

  He just rattles them off to and it'll go to Libya. All of a sudden you're talking about Libya. Gaddafi, remember the thing with Gaddafi? Like, I don't.

• 37:10Speaker 04

  Dude, he takes one of the people that texts like, the way he texts, it's not just like, he won't send you like one long text about like just everything he has to say. He has this, every sentence is a new text. You're just getting like, it just seems manic.

• 37:22Joe Rogan?

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• 38:42Joe Rogan?

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• 38:48Speaker 02

  That's un, that's undiagnosed mania.

• 38:50Speaker 04

  After like an hour, you get, you get back to like, cool.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  Did Bobby, when he came over, so we had a pool at the Airbnb we were at and him, and at one point I realized, I go, oh no, he's had Bobby Kelly in the corner for a while. And then Bobby Kelly goes inside and Bobby swims over and he goes, so I guess the Jew lasers are real.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  He goes, I guess Kurt told me those Jew lasers actually are pretty real. What's going on with them?

• 39:13Joe Rogan?

  He just corners you. He just corners you.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  But I love it. I can listen to him all day long.

• 39:18Joe Rogan?

  Bro, he's the best podcast guest.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:20Joe Rogan?

  The best podcast guest. He's like, he's just some, you just have to rein him in.

• 39:25Speaker 02

  Tell that to Owen Benjamin.

• 39:26Joe Rogan?

  Like, go in this, that was a fun one. Take him in this direction, go in this direction. Cause he's just, it just never stops coming out of his mouth.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:34Joe Rogan?

  He's a joke writing machine.

• 39:35Speaker 04

  No, he's a genius.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  I literally say, I say, I say, his day to day personality is genuinely, I always describe Kurt. He's the first person I see that price of genius. Where it's like, he's so great at being funny and his mind works such a thing, but

• 39:48Joe Rogan?

  He's out of his mind.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  His brain, when you're not talking to him, maybe even when you're talking to him, is just like, it's like a division sign. It's just formulas, just formulas.

• 39:58Joe Rogan?

  Like that meme. A hundred percent. That's how I feel like when I'm talking to Elon. Same, same thing.

• 40:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:04Joe Rogan?

  Like you can tell there's like numbers running in his background and shit going on.

• 40:07Speaker 02

  And he's trying to figure something out while you're talking?

• 40:09Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, he's, he's clearly on the spectrum. You know, I mean, that's, that's how you make rockets and electric cars and also own Twitter at the same time. Be addicted to Twitter, like, where's your time coming from? And you're playing Diablo?

• 40:24Joe Rogan?

  Really? Like, hey, where is he?

• 40:25Speaker 04

  I couldn't imagine being that rich and ever opening Twitter. Like if I was that, like I would just, like I'm just definitely above tweeting.

• 40:32Joe Rogan?

  I think really rich guys, um, one thing that happens if you're really rich and people are stopping you from communicating and you get pissed off and you think, well, fuck it, I can just buy Twitter. Like, nobody would do that normally.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 40:45Joe Rogan?

  You'd need a wild person like Elon to do that. That's a wild move. To say, I'll just buy Twitter and then pay them way more than it's worth. And then everybody says you're a terrible businessman because your company lost $20 billion in value in the first year. But it's like, no, it wasn't worth 44 billion. He paid 44 billion for it because he wanted it. It wasn't worth that. Like, how was it worth that? And then we found out a ton of shit, man, that we wouldn't have found out about like censorship and like what's directing it. Like, it's what's keeping us at each other's throats.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  You're saying almost just in the basic level of like someone his age. Like, doing the same action that like a girl flopping on her bed on her tummy and kicking her knees up is like doing like, like whatever, Trump's stupid and he's on, he's on the list.

• 41:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I just, I, if I was, I just, you made it. You don't need, you don't need to prove anything else, you made it.

• 41:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 41:36Speaker 04

  What else you gotta prove?

• 41:36Speaker 02

  Let them find out in the newspapers, doesn't matter.

• 41:38Joe Rogan?

  It's not a good look.

• 41:39Speaker 04

  I mean, if I had, if I just simply, I mean, if I got a, if I, if I double my net worth, I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna disappear from public life altogether. Much less Elon money, that's insane.

• 41:53Joe Rogan?

  I think you're aware, when you have a lot of money, of how many different entities are manipulating society. I think that becomes an issue. And if you can do something about it, and you feel compelled to do something about it, you're literally one of the only people that can.

• 42:07Speaker 04

  Do you think that he did do something about it?

• 42:08Joe Rogan?

  He definitely did when he bought Twitter.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  Twitter changed.

• 42:11Joe Rogan?

  He definitely did with Doge, just exposing some of the wild shit. Like, billions of dollars has gone to who knows where with no receipts, and...

• 42:21Speaker 04

  But did they even do anything about it really, or he just exposed it, people talked about it for a week?

• 42:25Joe Rogan?

  You can't do anything about the money that's gone. I mean, unless they can somehow or another figure out where it was spent, and whether it was valid, and hold someone accountable, they, they're not gonna do that, cuz they wanna make sure that that doesn't happen to them. And they're just gonna keep spending insane amounts of money.

• 42:41Speaker 04

  I feel like they're still spending, they, they were like, hey, this is happening, but it's still gonna continue to happen for the rest of your lives.

• 42:46Joe Rogan?

  Well, here's the thing, if the, if it's been funding the Democrat machine for this whole time, which is what guys like Mike Benz allege, it's a little over my head to really explain, but essentially he was saying that the, there's so many NGO, you wanna know how many NGOs there are? There is, uh, one NGO in India for every 600 people.

• 43:07Speaker 04

  Um, I don't know what an NGO is, and the idiot is Jay.

• 43:10Joe Rogan?

  Idiot, non, what a fucking idiot dude.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  Just so you know, that's stupid.

• 43:13Joe Rogan?

  Non-government organization.

• 43:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, tell it to him.

• 43:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, sorry, non-governmental organization. It's just a nonprofit. So it's a nonprofit that's funded by the government. It's, it's real weird stuff, man, when you find out about it.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  Just a future reference, if you can make all your acronyms, just say the whole word out so that Louis gets it, you stupid idiot.

• 43:30Joe Rogan?

  That no one knows about that.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  No, I, come on.

• 43:32Joe Rogan?

  You do, but I actually assume, because I didn't know about it until I started talking to, uh, Mike Benz about it. I was like, wait, what? Like, how much money? And when you find out where the money was going and what it was doing, it's like, he said, it's all for stuff that's too dirty for the CIA. I was like, Jesus Christ. And he lays it out in like hours long presentation and explains how it's all, what's, what's the root of it all? And it's like, it's really spooky stuff, because you, you realize like how corrupt our society actually truly is.

• 43:58Speaker 02

  Do you enjoy having the burden of information?

• 44:00Joe Rogan?

  No, I fucking hate it.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Why, like, where does your, where does your-

• 44:04Joe Rogan?

  Bigfoot podcast.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  Where does your, like, political give a shit stop, really?

• 44:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, I just don't want the world to fall apart. That's all it is. I just, I'm not politically aligned with either the left or the right. I believe in a lot of shit that the left believes in.

• 44:18Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 44:18Joe Rogan?

  And I believe in a lot of shit that the right believes in. I just don't believe in any of the shit that the extremists on either side believe in.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  That's the problem.

• 44:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 44:26Speaker 02

  This is-

• 44:26Joe Rogan?

  When you're fucking, uh, tackling people at construction sites, it's like, come on. Like, what are you, what are we doing? Like, you want everybody out? I feel like once you get in, should, let's take a test. You know, like, are, are you, are you the type of guy that shows up at work? Are you the type of guy that, uh, respects America? Do you like being here?

• 44:48Speaker 02

  Is it too easy to get in, though?

• 44:50Joe Rogan?

  Do you want a pass?

• 44:50Speaker 04

  You had a great analogy about the movie theater.

• 44:52Speaker 02

  My movie theater analogy is killer.

• 44:54Speaker 04

  It's a great analogy.

• 44:56Speaker 02

  I said, I've snuck into a movie before, sit in an empty seat that no one taken. It's not even taking up any kind of space. If they come in and go, hey, where's your ticket? I go, I don't have one. They go, you have to go. You gotta go, man. I can't, you can't be like, ah, dude, I've already watched an hour of it, and so what?

• 45:15Speaker 04

  And I feel like you should let them finish the movie.

• 45:17Joe Rogan?

  That's a good, um-

• 45:18Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, I'm not even saying you shouldn't let, I'm saying it's discretion to let them finish the movie or not. I'm just making the point to be like-

• 45:24Speaker 04

  They shoot you with a rubber bullet.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  What? This movie theater was built on my people's land. It's just, to me, it's just like a weird, like, reaction to getting caught, being like, well, but I've already been here. It's like, I've gotten away with it for so long.

• 45:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's kinda funny.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  If you steal someone's stuff, and they find it 20 years later, you go, well, it's been mine for 20 years.

• 45:44Joe Rogan?

  But also, I've totally agree with you, and it's a funny joke. But also, if you're living in Mexico and you're a young person and you figure out a way to sneak across the border, you get gainfully employed in the United States, you start doing well, you're involved in a business, you start raising a family, but there's no real path to citizenship because you snuck in. But you've actually become integrated in society and you're part of the American dream.

• 46:08Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 46:08Joe Rogan?

  It's just there's no path if you're dirt poor. That's the problem. See, if you're living in Denmark and you're white and you got a college degree and you're really good at genetics, you want to come over here and work for a lab, probably not that hard. You gotta jump through hoops though, you gotta meet with the guy every six months or whatever it is, you gotta fill out the paperwork. But if you're walking here from Mexico, you know, there's no, no clear path to citizenship.

• 46:29Speaker 04

  You gotta marry a fat white woman.

• 46:31Joe Rogan?

  Uh, find, find the desperado. Yeah, I mean, there's no, there's no clear path. And especially if you're integrated into like, uh, I, there was a guy that I had, was my landscaper for a long time in, uh, LA.

• 46:45Speaker 04

  He was Danish.

• 46:46Joe Rogan?

  He wa- he came.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  He's Dutch.

• 46:48Joe Rogan?

  He came from Mexico. He walked across from Mexico. It's like, and he lived in these communities. Like, he took me to, uh, they, they had chicken fights in their communities. And this dude had just roosters stacked up everywhere. Like, there was like a hundred roosters in this guy's backyard. Not my landscaper, but his friend, he took me to his friend's place. They would barbecue a goat and cook root. There wasn't a English speaking sign for blocks. And I was like, this is.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  You should have fucking paid him more.

• 47:14Joe Rogan?

  So, like, my point is, not paid him well, that was not my point. My point is like.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Spends all chicken fights.

• 47:21Joe Rogan?

  Completely integrated societies that are a part of LA that are fully Mexican. You know, and, but it functions. It works. Like, going in and raiding those people and putting them in jail because they've integrated into soc- society in an illegal way. It seems stupid.

• 47:39Speaker 04

  All the people that are going, it's like, is my tax dollars like, guys, do you mind them bullshit that our tax dollars goes to? That's, that should be a priority over getting a fucking Mexican dad out of the country. It's like.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  Joe, it sounds like you just want to keep barbecued goat in this country.

• 47:52Joe Rogan?

  The problem, the problem is if they're illegal, right? Which is what everybody wants to keep it that way. Because whatever, you let them vote and this. If they're illegal, then you don't have to pay them as much. And this is where it's dark. This is the dark secret of why people want cheap labor in this country. Because there's a lot of people that don't pay people what they're supposed to be getting paid. It's non-union, they're illegal, everyone knows. And they want cheap labor, cheap dependable, reliable labor. So they let people in for that. Tim Dillon was talking to me about this a long time ago. Because, you know, he used to be a real estate guy. Like, he, he understands like the dynamics of it all. Like, that is a big part of what they want, why they're bringing people in. But the reality is, yeah, you should just pay people more money.

• 48:35Joe Rogan?

  You should make less money, you should pay them more money, you should pay them enough monies that they can live. Like, to just, to, to, to try to have a giant business that pays people the least amount possible. It's kind of crazy.

• 48:46Speaker 04

  That's most businesses.

• 48:47Joe Rogan?

  I know, but that's kind of crazy. It's kind of a crazy thing to do.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  Very interesting. My, uh, my ex-wife, both her parents are immigrants. And you'd be surprised how not, like, uh, sad they feel for people being kicked out. Like, they're, I think they, they have a very, like, if, like, we had to figure out how to do it legally.

• 49:05Joe Rogan?

  That's what a lot of people, but that's also how people felt like when, uh, people were unvaccinated. Yeah, I had to take the shot. You know, like, why don't you take the shot? I had to take the shot.

• 49:14Speaker 02

  I didn't have to, I sought it out so hard.

• 49:17Joe Rogan?

  Did you?

• 49:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, Jay was paranoid.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Certain I was dying.

• 49:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a lot of, a lot of people got scared.

• 49:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I took it.

• 49:23Joe Rogan?

  They scared the fuck out of us.

• 49:24Speaker 04

  I took it and I faked the second one, the booster. Because I realized that there's no way to, these, it's a piece of paper, it's a card.

• 49:30Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 49:31Speaker 04

  With like some random name on it. It's like, it was like, I, I was like, there's no way they're actually tracking this.

• 49:36Speaker 02

  My daughter made one on her phone to go into a Cheesecake Factory. It's pretty impressive.

• 49:42Joe Rogan?

  They're gonna absolve you of that crime. It'll be in the future, it's been like when they, uh, all the people that dodged the draft.

• 49:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:47Joe Rogan?

  They, they exonerated them all.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Wait, did I just admit to a crime on this podcast?

• 49:51Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you did. They were, they were saying they were gonna prosecute people. I remember saying that, there was people that were saying, if you try to use a fake vaccination card, we're gonna prosecute you. Like, phew.

• 50:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, but that's like saying they're gonna put you in jail for not going to jury duty. That doesn't actually happen.

• 50:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but that's way crazier than that because that's like, this whole thing is nuts. Like, you're telling people they have to do this to get on an airplane and it doesn't even work.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  Have you ever had to tie last wraps at Cheesecake Factory? I'll risk it.

• 50:17Speaker 04

  Do they come to you for, have you ever done jury duty?

• 50:20Joe Rogan?

  I haven't done it, no.

• 50:21Speaker 04

  Like, that's, if Joe Rogan showed up to do jury duty, it'd be wild.

• 50:26Speaker 02

  Are you familiar with this case? I'm familiar with everything. I, I'm a little familiar with everything.

• 50:33Joe Rogan?

  Mildly.

• 50:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I interviewed the defendant and the plaintiff.

• 50:38Speaker 04

  I've never done jury duty either. I haven't gotten a notification in years and years and years for it, but I would just ignore them back in the day.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  I just talked one recently, pretty hard. I just flat out moved.

• 50:48Joe Rogan?

  Tim Dillon was just talking about it on, um, the Spicy Wings Show, Hot Ones. Tim, he was talking about how he did for a murder trial.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  Really?

• 50:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, the guy was a fucking murderer.

• 50:58Speaker 04

  He said it recently?

• 50:59Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he was talking about it recently. The guy, it was a long time ago. But, uh, he, he was, uh, did jury duty and he was like joking around with the defendant.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  See, if I was guaranteed that, I'd go, uh, show up. It's just what you're gonna get is like a tax something or a business, uh, argument.

• 51:17Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  Or some kind of shit, and that's boring as hell.

• 51:19Speaker 04

  Now you have to pretend to be racist to get out of it?

• 51:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:22Joe Rogan?

  You gotta have schizophrenia.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  I hate, uh, what's the last name of the one guy? Watkins? I hate black people. It's Jeremiah Watkins.

• 51:32Joe Rogan?

  I'm a little too opinionated.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  To be, yeah?

• 51:35Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that's what I'd say. I'm a little too opinionated.

• 51:38Speaker 02

  The only time ever I showed up, I wore, I was wearing jean shorts and they said you can't wear shorts to... And I'd go, what do I do? They go, go back, you'll go back into the pool and just go home. And they sent me home.

• 51:49Speaker 04

  They sent him into a pool because he was wearing shorts.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, nice shorts, idiot. Get in the pool.

• 51:53Joe Rogan?

  You can't offend people with your wardrobe, this place of the law.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  I guess so.

• 51:58Joe Rogan?

  How, when did they stop wearing the wigs and the fucking crazy, crazy like, you know?

• 52:03Speaker 02

  Did they do it here?

• 52:04Joe Rogan?

  Did they still wear those?

• 52:05Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 52:06Joe Rogan?

  They don't wear the wigs anymore, right?

• 52:07Speaker 02

  When we first came from, uh... Oh, Pilgrim Court?

• 52:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 52:14Joe Rogan?

  How fucking stupid is it that everybody had wigs on?

• 52:17Speaker 04

  They still have it in England, to this day.

• 52:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they still do.

• 52:20Speaker 04

  The judges still wear it, it's crazy.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  And Jewish women, religious Jewish women.

• 52:23Joe Rogan?

  You know where it came from?

• 52:24Speaker 02

  And any black woman.

• 52:25Joe Rogan?

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• 53:55Joe Rogan?

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• 54:03Speaker 02

  The wigs?

• 54:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 54:04Speaker 02

  Why how so?

• 54:05Joe Rogan?

  Although the people, this is what, this is, so this, the story's a little complicated. This may or may not have been exactly how it happened, but it seems like when explorers came to North America, they contracted syphilis from the natives and then brought it back to Europe. And then a lot of people were getting syphilis, these people were freaks, they're all fucking each other. And they were losing their hair and getting big holes in their face and shit. Like, syphilis is crazy, like, rots your head away. And so they started wearing wigs, because they had like, big scabby holes in their head, like, literally, it's horrific shit. And the more wealthy you were, the bigger the wig. So that was like, big wigs. That's what the term "big wigs" come from. It comes from these freaks that all had syphilis, that were all banging each other.

• 54:50Speaker 04

  And if you have money, you're fucking just getting pussy left and right.

• 54:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 54:53Speaker 04

  So.

• 54:53Joe Rogan?

  So there was these two, um, two guys that were royals, and they started it all. They started wearing the wigs when they got syphilis.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  Wow, that's crazy.

• 55:03Joe Rogan?

  Nuts.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  So I guess it all dials back, it's still, it's not the white man's fault, he's dirty ass Indians.

• 55:08Joe Rogan?

  It has to be.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  He's dirty Indian sluts.

• 55:10Joe Rogan?

  Has to be why they wear wigs in court, it has to be. Right? Like, it has to be like a proper thing, like, wearing a tie or something, like, a gentleman wears a wig.

• 55:20Speaker 04

  I should start wearing a wig. How fun would that be?

• 55:22Speaker 02

  A powdered wig.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  I thought about getting a toupee recently, just to be funny, just show up with like, a really high quality toupee.

• 55:29Joe Rogan?

  Jamar does that.

• 55:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know, he has the.

• 55:31Joe Rogan?

  He wears a mohawk, he loses it his head.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  You should get a hair system, not a toupee.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  No dude, I'm not going to another country to get my fucking ass hairs implanted in my head.

• 55:38Speaker 02

  No, no, not an implant, it's a system, it's like a different, it's like more permanent toupee. It really looks.

• 55:43Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I saw a video today where this doctor was talking, and a doctor that I know was talking, Garth Fisher's his name. He was talking about his clients that went down to Turkey to get a gastric bypass operation. And then a couple of months later, like, "My stomach's bothering me," and the doctor's like, "Oh, let's check out what's going on with your stomach. How long have you only had one kidney?" And she's like, "I have two kidneys." He goes, "No, you have one kidney." And then contacts the other two girls that were on the trip, they all come in to get examined, they're all missing a kidney as well. So they went down to Turkey to get a bypass, a gastric bypass, and they stole their fucking kidneys.

• 56:22Speaker 02

  Brilliant.

• 56:23Joe Rogan?

  Yo.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  Not bad.

• 56:24Joe Rogan?

  Bro, imagine, out there stealing body parts.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  You only have one kidney.

• 56:29Joe Rogan?

  That's crazy.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  I mean, it's better. I used to all, did they also get the gastric bypass, though?

• 56:35Joe Rogan?

  They did, but I think they paid for it.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  Wow. What if it cost a kidney to get gastric bypass? There's fat people that would do that.

• 56:42Joe Rogan?

  Right. What if they didn't read the fine print?

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it just cost you this? Here's why it's so cheap. We need a kidney.

• 56:48Joe Rogan?

  It's free if you have A B blood.

• 56:49Speaker 04

  How much is a kidney on the black market worth?

• 56:51Joe Rogan?

  That's a good question, Jamie. Don't Google that.

• 56:54Speaker 04

  No, Jamie, off the dome.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Also, where does your, uh, where does your circle, how big is your circle of give a kidney if they need?

• 57:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it's very small.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 57:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're gonna have to figure that out. I'm not giving up kidneys for people.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  Just like, uh, Ari Shafir get your kidney?

• 57:11Joe Rogan?

  Uh, not good.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  What, I mean, like?

• 57:13Joe Rogan?

  Not as good. It's two, that's why you have two. I'm keeping two. Hello, science, catch up. Don't be fucking stealing people's kidneys.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  You can live with one kidney, but how much does it affect your, like, data? Do you exercise still? Can you?

• 57:24Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. It's a very good question.

• 57:27Speaker 02

  I think you live life relatively normal. People do it for loved ones.

• 57:31Joe Rogan?

  It's interesting that people get kicked in the kidneys all the time, but you don't really hear about too many, like, severe kidney injuries. You know, like, you hear about liver injuries, like, you hear about internal bleeding from guys from body shots. Don't hear too much about kidney injuries.

• 57:45Speaker 04

  Dude, getting punched in the fucking liver, it's the most painful thing on the planet, dude.

• 57:51Joe Rogan?

  It's a weird feeling.

• 57:52Speaker 04

  It's crazy. It'll, it just shuts your body down. You roll around on the floor and start crying.

• 57:55Speaker 02

  I think, I thought, I think Mickey Gall told me his-

• 57:58Speaker 04

  Mickey Gall kicked me in my kidney.

• 58:00Speaker 02

  Oh, he said that Diego-

• 58:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, so I sparred with Mickey Gall once, and I sparred with Michael Bisping once, and both of them put me down with liver shot, no, I'm sorry, liver shots, not kidney.

• 58:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, liver.

• 58:09Speaker 04

  Liver shots, like, but they, they, they called it. This is how good fighters are, like, Bisping's like, hey, watch this, bang, and they just put me down. I mean, literally the whole gym of people cackling, laughing at me as I roll around on the floor as a man. It's fucking pathetic.

• 58:23Joe Rogan?

  Have you seen Iliya Taporia do that to people? He does it to fans. He hits them with a liver shot. They ask him. So he's liver shot and bare knuckle. Iliya Taporia, bare knuckle liver shotting people.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  You, I'd rather be punched in the face 10 out of 10 times.

• 58:36Speaker 02

  But Mickey said when he lost to Diego Sanchez, it was because his kidney started shutting off.

• 58:39Speaker 04

  That's why he bit him.

• 58:40Joe Rogan?

  I bet that is a-

• 58:41Speaker 02

  From weight, he said, no, that's what he said, it's from weight loss.

• 58:43Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's a brutal thing that they do, man. Like Kayla Harrison, who just won the bantamweight title, bro.

• 58:48Speaker 02

  Oh, that picture of her way in.

• 58:50Joe Rogan?

  She is so big. She's so jacked and that her getting down to 135, I don't know how much weight she's losing. I don't really wanna ask, but I do. You know, being not supposed to ask ladies what their weight.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  Right.

• 59:02Joe Rogan?

  She was competing in the Olympics.

• 59:03Speaker 02

  Even in professional fighting.

• 59:04Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, and when she was over at the PFL, she was fighting at 155.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Right, well, her picture, her picture of her at the, the actual weigh-in?

• 59:12Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Was like scary.

• 59:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's kinda fucked up, honestly.

• 59:15Speaker 02

  It was like a thumbnail from like crack whore confessions or anything.

• 59:18Joe Rogan?

  See, this is the problem. The UFC had a 145-pound division and Amanda Nunez was the champion of it. Like, for the health of both fighters, like, that would be a good way. I mean, it really depends on if Kayla Harrison can continue to make 135 and defend the title, because I don't know who's gonna beat her. She's too fucking strong. She's so strong.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  That happens a lot with like the chicks. There's like a real dominant chick for a while.

• 59:39Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. With Amanda, it was KO power. Amanda was one of the rare women that she could just touch you and just blast you out of orbit. You know, it's usually with women, it's like a combination punches, like Amanda had extraordinary power. Like, when she knocked out Cyborg, that was wild, dude. That was fu- she just folded Cyborg. I'm like, that lady can crack.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  What was the, was it Silva? This last weekend, there was a knockout. The guy was asleep, standing, and it was the most softest, like a turnover.

• 1:00:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  Turnover like chin punch.

• 1:00:10Joe Rogan?

  The Korean dude.

• 1:00:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, young, like 23 years old. It was like he-

• 1:00:13Joe Rogan?

  Cho Sang You.

• 1:00:14Speaker 02

  He moved and just like, it was the smallest little like, he didn't pull it from the shoulder or nothing.

• 1:00:19Joe Rogan?

  One of the best left hooks of all time.

• 1:00:21Speaker 02

  The guy was asleep before he hit the ground. It was crazy.

• 1:00:23Joe Rogan?

  One of the best left hooks of all time. It was literally like this, bam, like he just turned it over.

• 1:00:26Speaker 02

  And he's a kid, right?

• 1:00:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's young. No, he's not that young. No, no, no. Here it is. Boom, look at that. I think he's 28.

• 1:00:33Speaker 02

  That's a lot of his momentum coming in, too. It was like the perfect place, timing.

• 1:00:37Joe Rogan?

  For sure. But he's also a really good boxer.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  You get knocked out and then some dude's doing backflips in the ring. That's the worst feeling in the world. I don't, by the way, I don't know how, I would, I'm not a good enough sport for if I was knocked out and they come over and start doing that thing where they're touching my face a lot and be like, "Thank you for the opportunity." "Get the fuck away from me, dickhead."

• 1:00:52Joe Rogan?

  A lot of people do.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  "You fucking jerk off? I don't wanna talk to you." He goes, "Hey, will you pray with me?" "No!"

• 1:00:57Joe Rogan?

  "Ah, will you pray with me?"

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  "To who, a god that hates my guts?"

• 1:01:04Joe Rogan?

  That's so funny.

• 1:01:06Speaker 02

  I've been praying to God this whole training camp.

• 1:01:08Joe Rogan?

  I just got fucked up. God just gave me a concussion.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  Thanks, God.

• 1:01:14Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  I guess God thought I was training wrong.

• 1:01:18Joe Rogan?

  This lady's got a problem because if she, you know, other than the Amanda Nunes fight, who? Well, who's gonna pay to watch her just steamroll somebody? You know, like every, if she can continue to make 135, if she becomes a marathon runner or something? And drops even more muscle mass and can make 135, who the fuck is gonna be able to deal with that?

• 1:01:36Speaker 04

  It was like Mike Tyson back in the day. It became a thing where they started like offering you money back on the pay-per-views if he, if he didn't last at least two rounds.

• 1:01:44Joe Rogan?

  Did they?

• 1:01:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was the whole thing. It was like, cause he was knocking people out so fast, it was like, yeah, I'm not paying for this. This is fucking crazy.

• 1:01:51Joe Rogan?

  Everybody would look at a pay-per-view based on how long you thought the fight would last, like $60, man.

• 1:01:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:56Joe Rogan?

  It wasn't that much back then, but, but I remember people being bummed out. It was like a 30-second knockout.

• 1:02:01Speaker 04

  But it was also fun to like, it was almost like, Mike Tyson, his thing was, he was so vicious and badass.

• 1:02:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  That was kinda fun to watch somebody that dominant, you know?

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, but also the crazy, when people-

• 1:02:12Speaker 04

  I think with the UFC people, like, they wanna, they want the back and forth. They want five crazy fights. They wanna like, you feel like you're getting your money's worth.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  I remember after Tyson Holyfield, the ear thing.

• 1:02:22Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  I ordered that pay-per-view and I was driving around that night afterwards, listening to the radio and people were like, like tons of complaining on sports radio. I'm like, "You just watched a guy bite a hu- another man's ear off."

• 1:02:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  If they would've sold it that way before-

• 1:02:34Joe Rogan?

  You would've paid $60 just for that.

• 1:02:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, before the fight, if they were like, "Watch a man eat another man's ear." Like, "I'll pay anything you want."

• 1:02:40Joe Rogan?

  Didn't he bite him twice?

• 1:02:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, he didn't get it off the first time though.

• 1:02:44Joe Rogan?

  The money back was for that fight.

• 1:02:45Speaker 04

  The fact that Mike Tyson has, uh-

• 1:02:47Joe Rogan?

  $50 back then?

• 1:02:48Speaker 04

  Has edibles that are ear-shaped is one of the funniest fucking things on earth.

• 1:02:52Joe Rogan?

  And the fact that their friends know. Vander, Mike is-

• 1:02:54Speaker 02

  Vander Holyfield has no idea what's going on.

• 1:02:56Joe Rogan?

  He, he doesn't?

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  He'd be friends with anybody. He is Gonski. Evander Holyfield?

• 1:03:02Joe Rogan?

  Is he?

• 1:03:03Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:03:04Joe Rogan?

  He was on my podcast a few years back. He was fine. Yeah.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Something always on there.

• 1:03:07Joe Rogan?

  Back in LA. No, man. He was like, super coherent back in LA.

• 1:03:12Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 1:03:13Joe Rogan?

  I mean, that was a few years ago? Seven years ago, maybe? How long ago was Evander on the show?

• 1:03:19Speaker 04

  Did he fight Vitor? Is that who fought Vitor?

• 1:03:21Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. That was unfortunate. And I don't think he had a real camp for that fight either.

• 1:03:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think that was a last minute replacement, because Vitor was supposed to fight somebody else, right?

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Very few athletes will ever, I think, at this point. I know there's bigger contracts now than ever.

• 1:03:36Joe Rogan?

  2019, so six years ago.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  But very few athletes will ever understand the idea of that, like, what those guys' lives were like. Even like Riddick Bowe.

• 1:03:44Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Like, Riddick Bowe was champion for like, two fights. I mean, you know what I mean?

• 1:03:48Joe Rogan?

  And he was awesome.

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  Didn't have a... He was awesome, but he didn't have a long run or anything. And then, right, you see his thing. It's like, 14 acres with white tigers everywhere, and all his clothes are silk. Like, they're immediately... Like, they were just getting handed like, 50 million dollars in one night. I know it's like, he trained for that night, but... That's a crazy amount of... Like, no athletes get that.

• 1:04:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well...

• 1:04:09Speaker 02

  Like, anymore. Nothing like that.

• 1:04:10Joe Rogan?

  There's a few. Canelo does.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Does he?

• 1:04:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, Canelo has a giant deal with the Saudis.

• 1:04:15Speaker 02

  Oh, but I mean, maybe even boxing still has that with the pay-per-view, like, taken. I just mean...

• 1:04:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, some of these boxers, you're making pretty fucking nuts.

• 1:04:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  But that sport's the only sport that's... I mean, UFC, it's never paid like that, has it?

• 1:04:25Joe Rogan?

  Um, I don't know what the most amount anyone's been paid in the UFC for a fight. If I had to guess, it's gotta be Connor.

• 1:04:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, without a doubt.

• 1:04:33Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Um, I know Connor has made more than 100 million dollars in the UFC, I believe.

• 1:04:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:38Joe Rogan?

  See if that's a fact.

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  Is that going all in with his endorsements?

• 1:04:43Joe Rogan?

  I shouldn't say that, because I don't really know. I just read some article that tried to break down how much he made for each pay-per-view, and how much he made, um, at the beginning of his career, you know, like, when he first burst onto the scene.

• 1:04:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's a...

• 1:04:56Speaker 05

  I got two numbers in the first results. That says 39.3, and then down here says 108.

• 1:05:03Joe Rogan?

  108, yeah.

• 1:05:03Speaker 05

  It might include that boxing.

• 1:05:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, so there's like, the pay-per-view bonuses versus like, fight pay, so...

• 1:05:08Joe Rogan?

  What I was gonna say is, I thought he made 100 million dollars from the Floyd fight, so it can't be that.

• 1:05:15Joe Rogan?

  So thirty million, oh, it says thirty million from the boxing match in Floyd. I thought it was a hundred million.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  And his biggest payout was against Khabib for twenty-eight, five, almost?

• 1:05:25Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's, um, so twenty-eight million. He's probably made the most.

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  But his like, he wasn't getting, that was all pay-per-view bonus. That was a huge pay-per-view.

• 1:05:33Joe Rogan?

  Mm-hmm. Right, but I'm, but he did get paid. I mean, that, but that's the only way they get paid anyway.

• 1:05:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:05:39Joe Rogan?

  I mean, the, the pay-per-view bonus thing is great because it forces him to promote, but

• 1:05:45Joe Rogan?

  I don't mind a silent killer. I don't mind an Alex Pereira. I don't want to see him promoted. He don't have to promote. That dude promotes when he puts people in the orbit. You know, just let him train. Let him shoot a fucking bow and arrow at a soccer ball. Let him train. Like, don't fucking pawn that guy out and have him do media everywhere. Like, leave his energy alone. Like, you guys can do enough with promotion from his highlight reel. But the guy like Conor, though, that fucking guy, like, if he can get on the radio, if he can get on a talk show, if he can start talking shit, he'll, the, the number, Dana sees dollar bills like fucking Scrooge McDuck. He's like, start throwing gold coins in the air. Conor was the best at it.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  What about the, a couple of weeks ago, Aaron Blanchfield versus, uh, what was the girl she was fighting? They, they canceled it. They canceled it as it was starting. They already did the package for the main event. And then they found out that Macy Barber had like passed out. She had a seizure backstage.

• 1:06:40Joe Rogan?

  I don't want to speak out of turn, so it's some sort of medical condition and she was in trouble. And so they sent her to the hospital to get checked out.

• 1:06:47Speaker 04

  I mean, they, they literally said, all right, now it's time for the main event. And then they were like, well, never mind, we're not doing it.

• 1:06:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I don't, again, I don't want to speak out of turn, but I think she might have had some health concerns. She's had a bunch of health concerns over the last couple of years, I think. So, and then she missed weight, which is never a good sign. You know, when they miss weight, usually something's off.

• 1:07:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:05Joe Rogan?

  A lot of times they're injured or sick or something. But whatever it was, sucks.

• 1:07:10Speaker 04

  That sucks for Aaron Blanchfield. Dude, you just, she's actually from my hometown in Jersey.

• 1:07:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, she's a beast, dude.

• 1:07:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, she's a monster.

• 1:07:16Joe Rogan?

  Very good. Very young, too.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Were you gonna sit him up and say something shitty about her? And then be like, I know, we're actually really good. That's a dumb bitch. Oh, I grew up with her. What an ass.

• 1:07:24Joe Rogan?

  I was, uh, with, uh, Dave Porterfield, you know, he's a big fan of, uh, Meatball Molly McCann, who's great too. But he's like, uh, I'm betting on Molly and I go, yeah. And he's like, you think? I go, dude, like, Aaron Blanchfield is the truth. Like, she's a fucking problem. She's a problem. She gets a hold of Molly and she just ragdolled her.

• 1:07:44Speaker 02

  If you were gonna Pete Rose your own sport, how do you, you think you would hit good?

• 1:07:49Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I used to bet on it.

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 1:07:51Joe Rogan?

  But I can't affect the outcome. So I used in the early days of the UFC, when they first started having lines in sportsbooks, I'd bet. Cause I would see like, you'd see shit like Anderson Silva. It's like, if this isn't an eight hundred to one.

• 1:08:04Speaker 04

  Anderson Silva versus Travis Luder, like, okay.

• 1:08:07Joe Rogan?

  Uh-uh. That was, that was different, okay? Travis Luder lost that fight, in my opinion, because he cut too much weight.

• 1:08:14Speaker 04

  You think he would have won the fight?

• 1:08:15Joe Rogan?

  He was, he had him mounted early in the fight. Let me tell you something, Travis Luder's Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu was fucking elite. All the guys that I know that trained with him, like, oh dude, he's like Ricardo Laborio level. They're like, he's special. Like, he, he did the Ultimate Fighter and everybody was terrified. And they're like, that motherfucker gets you on the ground, you're in trouble. He's just a machine in Jiu-Jitsu. So I saw him cut weight and he looked so bad, his lips were cracked.

• 1:08:42Speaker 04

  Wow.

• 1:08:42Joe Rogan?

  His face was sucked in and he was shuffling to the scale and he still didn't make weight. He never made weight.

• 1:08:48Speaker 04

  Oh, is that what happened? It wasn't a title fight, that's right, yeah.

• 1:08:51Joe Rogan?

  He wouldn't have won the title if he won.

• 1:08:52Speaker 04

  That was crazy. They used to give the winner of the Ultimate Fighter a title shot, like, back in the day. It was like a crazy, like, just sort of like prize. Like, it's just changed. It's turned, it's just more of a legitimate sport now. That you can't just give like the winner of a reality show a title fight.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  America's Got Talent used to give a million dollar prize and then one day they just changed, like, you'd just be part of an America's Got Talent show in Vegas.

• 1:09:12Joe Rogan?

  Did they always give you a title fight? Is that?

• 1:09:15Speaker 04

  I think the first few seasons, yeah.

• 1:09:16Joe Rogan?

  I think Travis had had a few fights in the UFC before that, dude. That was, uh, well, long after the Ultimate Fighter.

• 1:09:23Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:09:24Joe Rogan?

  I'm about ninety percent sure, cause I know he knocked out Marvin Eastman. I remember that fight. And, you know, he, he fought quite a A few dudes, but the the main theme was when Travis got a hold of you, you were fucked. And he got a hold of Anderson and Anderson looked fu- it was early in the fight, but then he got Anderson got him in a triangle. He just tired out and Anderson was blasting him.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Anderson, when he first came in, it was crazy.

• 1:09:44Joe Rogan?

  If you saw that guy the day before, you'd go, oh, my God, how is this guy even alive? He should be taken to a hospital.

• 1:09:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:51Joe Rogan?

  He looked so bad. I've seen a lot of people weigh in looking really bad, but Travis was the worst.

• 1:09:58Joe Rogan?

  So he look at this, he's mounted on top of Anderson early in the fight.

• 1:10:01Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:10:02Speaker 05

  I mean, I just kept the head, he had him, he was mounted for like two and a half minutes.

• 1:10:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I mean, but he just gassed out, man. I mean, he just had nothing left. He lost too much weight, man. And so then Anderson got him in a triangle and started fucking him up with elbows. So they came a point in time where you could see him visibly fading. You know?

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:22Joe Rogan?

  I think if, look at that mount, bro. Look how slick that is. I mean, this dude is so slick. Travis was so dangerous, man. He could have possibly submitted him, but he was just too big for the weight class. He shouldn't have been making that weight. So that's, that's my point. It's like, yeah. He was a live dog in this fight is my point.

• 1:10:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was tired then. That wasn't even really an escape that Anderson did.

• 1:10:44Joe Rogan?

  He lost way too much weight. Dude, he was dead the day before. I mean, dead. When I saw him dead. He looked like he might die.

• 1:10:51Speaker 02

  Have you ever gotten talked to a fighter about the psychology of like? Once you loo- like when you're just like this dominant force and once you lose, like your whole thing changed? Like Roy Jones Jr. was overnight.

• 1:11:01Joe Rogan?

  Overnight.

• 1:11:01Speaker 05

  Overnight.

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  They said that one guy called him out, said he was ducking him.

• 1:11:04Joe Rogan?

  Antonio Tarver.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  Tarver said he was ducking him, then Antonio Tarver beat him. Then Glenn Johnson just beat him, knocked him through the ropes. It was just like it became like, oh, you just beat him.

• 1:11:11Joe Rogan?

  But Glenn Johnson knocked him out where it was one of those scary ones where your arms are stiff.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:16Joe Rogan?

  And it didn't seem like he hit him that hard either. That was.

• 1:11:20Speaker 02

  It seemed like it couldn't be real that it was happening. It was like two fights before that was the fight, was the fight, I believe, where he he's hitting the guy and he tells the ref, he's like, stop the fight. And then the ref didn't and he hit him a few more times.

• 1:11:29Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  Like that was like, uh, two fights before it was just all over.

• 1:11:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. But you know what happened? Roy went up to heavyweight. And he fought John Ruiz and then he dropped back down to light heavyweight and that's a real problem. There's like, you got knocked out. So he was like. He's stiff, dude. Like when you get knocked down and you're just like stiff here.

• 1:11:53Joe Rogan?

  Witness the beginning of the revolution. Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start. Film for IMAX.

• 1:12:00Speaker 06

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• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  Anderson Silva.

• 1:12:35Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's so awful.

• 1:12:37Speaker 02

  Wasn't it pretty much Anderson Silva after the leg went? In the fight, like it was just like he never really, he won fights since, but he never really captured back like, we're just going to watch him. We went, first UFC we ever went to was 101 in Philly.

• 1:12:48Speaker 04

  Anderson Silva versus Forrest Griffin. And a racist ass Philly crowd.

• 1:12:54Speaker 02

  That night for us in general was just a hilarious thing. We went with, it was me, Dave and Lewis, all three of us.

• 1:13:01Speaker 04

  It was the first white boy weekend.

• 1:13:03Speaker 02

  First white boy weekend. We went to like a Oz Fest or Mayhem Fest. And then UFC. Lewis and Dave brought their friend who I was not getting along with and a girl who.

• 1:13:13Speaker 04

  Shout out Crypto West.

• 1:13:14Speaker 02

  Crypto West. We used to, um, Lewis used to date a girl who became friends with the group sort of, and she came with us also.

• 1:13:23Speaker 04

  And she was, we'll say she's a, she's a chunkier girl. This is back, look, this is back in the day when I was younger. It's like, if you become friends with a girl, like you can't separate.

• 1:13:32Speaker 02

  Lewis, no one's gonna see her. You don't have to over explain it. You fucked the girl that wasn't super hot.

• 1:13:39Speaker 04

  Look, you know, I'm saying now I wouldn't have dated her, but uh, yeah, she was a little bit of a chunkier girl. And uh, whatever it was that we were just, we were just talking shit, like, you know, watching the fights, everyone's just being animals. We ended up getting to a thing with these guys in front of us. Like it was like, it was maybe four, four of us. And I want to say maybe three of them. We might've outnumbered them.

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  No, I don't think so. At first it was just, there was like one or two guys just there. The other guys were gone.

• 1:14:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, we, whatever.

• 1:14:03Joe Rogan?

  It's like a coyote trap. You show you one coyote and the rest of them surround you.

• 1:14:07Speaker 04

  And we, we started talking shit with these guys. It just turned into like a.

• 1:14:11Speaker 02

  I mean, we shouldn't make this, we're not looking, none of us are looking for trouble guys. The guys were, I think we were talking and saying shit, like being funny, and I think they kind of were giving us like a. Why don't you guys shut the fuck up kinda thing, you know what I mean?

• 1:14:23Speaker 04

  We're being dickhead comedians and they're like really serious about watching an MMA fight right now.

• 1:14:29Speaker 02

  First one ever in Philadelphia.

• 1:14:30Speaker 04

  They turned around, they start talking shit, so then we start talking shit to them, we kinda chumped the two guys and then their group of friends show up and they get wind that they just got chumped by these fucking loser comedians.

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  They left the nerds behind and they went and got merch.

• 1:14:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, so then these guys came-

• 1:14:44Speaker 02

  You make the nerds get merch, we see what we're working with.

• 1:14:47Speaker 04

  It became a whole argument, these guys started talking shit to us and by the way, we were above them, we could've fucked it, we should've just-

• 1:14:52Speaker 02

  Oh, higher ground.

• 1:14:53Speaker 04

  We should've just dominated these guys, but whatever had happened, we just didn't wanna fight and get kicked out. We're not like tough guys like that, so they start talking shit and then this is like, it's such a fight, it's almost like when somebody spits on you. One of the guys goes, he was like, "I'll fuck you and fuck your fat bitch too," about the girl that I was seeing and we all just acted like we didn't hear it.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  We all acted like we didn't hear it, we just communally agreed without even looking at each other, we were like, "These guys, huh?" She sat there the rest of the night, "I can't believe these guys were ready to fight for everything except me." When that was the final though, she goes, "Oh, well, you should stick up for yourself lady." And then we just sat there.

• 1:15:27Speaker 04

  She's a big girl, she could've helped.

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  Then we went outside and pretended like we were waiting to find them as a sea of eighteen thousand people being moved.

• 1:15:33Speaker 04

  Oh boy.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  God, we did look like jerk offs there. But then, that was so funny cuz it was Philly, which historically hilariously racist city and-

• 1:15:43Speaker 04

  Which fight was that?

• 1:15:44Speaker 02

  It was Forrest Griffin, uh, Anderson Silva.

• 1:15:46Speaker 04

  Oh, that one was crazy.

• 1:15:47Speaker 02

  So Forrest Griffin, I mean, the applause, when he came out, the ovation he got, they couldn't wait-

• 1:15:52Speaker 04

  They loved him.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  And they booed, they literally booed Anderson Silva. And then Anderson Silva handled that hilariously and quick.

• 1:16:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  And, uh, and then when Forrest Griffin left immediately, he didn't stay, he ran right out of the ring, which was a thing. And then, uh, they, you know, they announced the thing, goes, "Your winner," and still, Anderson Silva, and the place booed. It was such a sweet moment cuz Anderson Silva seems like his personality is good, it seems like, and, uh, and they were like booing and they had him on the big screen and Anderson Silva goes like, "You almost had to go, 'Really?' Like, and he's like holding the belt and they're like, 'Yeah, alright, you son of a bitch, that was amazing,' and they cheered for him. Strange, but we saw, we saw like an 18 year old or 19 year old John Jones just walking around the arena that night. And I didn't know, uh, I would got into UFC way early. Me and my step pop used to get like, you know, ninja versus sumo wrestler UFC.

• 1:16:43Speaker 02

  And then when it got like, uh, rules and everyone was kind of like, you know, trying to start doing like actual MMA. Uh, I lost track of it and Lewis and Dave were super into it. So they

• 1:16:53Joe Rogan?

  That's funny when the rules came, you checked out.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  Checked out.

• 1:16:57Speaker 04

  Me and Dave, we became friends, we were roommates in Brooklyn. We would go to the Blockbuster, rent the old UFC's. It was like ultimate knockouts, ultimate submissions. They had like a series of videos. And, uh, who's it Mark Lehman? He would teach you how to do moves. Like in the, uh, there was like a segment where it's like, hey, kids at home.

• 1:17:15Speaker 04

  So me and Dave, literally living in the shittiest, dirtiest apartment with like garbage everywhere and beer bottles everywhere. We would have grappling matches with our buddy Wes. Uh, my cauliflower ear didn't come from jujitsu. This is from Dave Smith.

• 1:17:30Speaker 04

  Open hand smack. We had open hand smacking rules. He would open hand smack me in the ear.

• 1:17:34Joe Rogan?

  Political, maybe the best political pundit alive. How weird is that?

• 1:17:38Speaker 02

  I'm gonna assassinate him.

• 1:17:39Speaker 04

  He was a pothead wigger who was grappling amongst garbage with me. That's how he started his career.

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  He was on my couch for a couple of years.

• 1:17:45Joe Rogan?

  Did you guys ever imagine he was gonna be that good at like political commentary?

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  I, you know what? I shouldn't say no. I didn't know he was going to go to be that kind of big in it. Uh, the fact that he is great at it doesn't surprise me at all, but it's

• 1:17:58Joe Rogan?

  His recalls, nuts.

• 1:17:59Speaker 02

  It's interesting how like, uh, cause I said, this was just a guy at a time I said, we smoked pot. We essentially raised my daughter off a gay couple during the day. Then my, uh, ex-wife would come home and then we head into the city and meet up with Lewis.

• 1:18:11Speaker 04

  How many times did your ex-wife accuse you of doing gay shit with Dave?

• 1:18:13Speaker 02

  Several, you know what's funny? Before, one of the reasons I was able to give why I was, uh, leaving when I left. Was, uh, I went in her thing to see if she was, I was like, I should see if she's cheating also.

• 1:18:26Speaker 02

  And I went through her computer and it was nothing about her cheating at all. It was several times looking up what to do when you find out your husband is gay.

• 1:18:38Joe Rogan?

  What? What? Imagine being a woman married to a guy and thinking he's secretly sneaking away and sucking cock.

• 1:18:44Speaker 04

  That's a video that just went viral recently. The girl like caught her boyfriend or husband.

• 1:18:49Joe Rogan?

  It looked staged. I saw that.

• 1:18:50Speaker 04

  You saw that? You think it was staged? I don't think so dude. I don't think she's that good of an actress. They might be. I mean.

• 1:18:56Joe Rogan?

  I think a lot of them are staged.

• 1:18:57Speaker 04

  She was losing her mind. She's like, you're fucking that guy? You're fucking him, Chris? Really?

• 1:19:02Speaker 02

  Cheaters getting caught by their significant others though. As much as I've felt that pain, I love those videos. That's a rabbit hole I'm going to.

• 1:19:08Joe Rogan?

  Remember that show? Remember the show Cheaters? It was great. Guy got stabbed on a boat?

• 1:19:10Speaker 02

  All fake.

• 1:19:11Joe Rogan?

  All fake?

• 1:19:12Speaker 02

  All fake.

• 1:19:12Joe Rogan?

  I believe it.

• 1:19:13Speaker 02

  I've talked to so many people who've worked at Cheaters before and stuff and recently, I wanted to be the host. They brought Peter Guns from Lord Tariq and Peter Guns, Uptown Baby. Remember that song?

• 1:19:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  Uh, he became the newest host. Before him, it was Gary or Clark Gable the third. It was like Clark Gable's grandson. Seriously, it was like Clark Gable the third or something. Uh, he died from a drug overdose. The original guy who hosted it was a guy named Tommy Habib. He was pretty great at it. Then the little guy got stabbed. Fake, completely fake.

• 1:19:47Joe Rogan?

  Do you remember Morton Downey Jr.?

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:19:50Joe Rogan?

  He was the best. He was the best.

• 1:19:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, he would just smoke on the show and just yell at people. He's like, alright, so you're a Nazi. Here's the Jewish defamation league. Just bring him out to fight.

• 1:20:01Joe Rogan?

  This is what's crazy. There was a guy who used to work as a doorman at one of the comedy clubs, like a wannabe comedian, and he would also get jobs on these reality shows. And the way it would work, they'd call him up, hey, we're looking for someone whose brother had an affair with his wife and he just found out. He goes, what a coincidence. My brother just had, like, that would be the thing. They'd go, great, come on in. And we're looking for a guy who came back from Vietnam, very disillusioned, you know, whatever the fuck it is. They would, he would just say, they would just say that to him and he'd go, great. And they knew it was bullshit and he would just show up and act it. They would just give him a, so you came back from Vietnam and what did you discover there? And he would just start talking.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  When it's real, it goes bad. They had the one thing where the... The guy, Jenny Jones, that ruined her fucking career completely, the guy.

• 1:20:48Joe Rogan?

  Guy was in love with the guy.

• 1:20:50Speaker 02

  They were like, hey, I'll do the show, but it's not gonna be a guy, right? Who's like into me? And they were like, no, no, no. And then it was, it was this, now he's friends with two people, a big fat girl and a gay guy. And the big fat girl was sitting out there. And he was like, oh shit, okay. And they go, no, no, it's not her. And they bring out the guy. And he says, he goes, oh, you lied to me. And his face is real like embarrassed. And he killed the gay guy later. And that ruined Jenny Jones' career completely.

• 1:21:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you know Jenny Jones was a comic and she used to do like all girls night. So at the club, like you couldn't even be in the club. So they would do like a show where it would be all girl waitstaff, all girl, everything, all girl.

• 1:21:34Speaker 04

  The least funny show ever.

• 1:21:37Speaker 02

  Funny, the service is slow, the math is wrong.

• 1:21:42Joe Rogan?

  And then she.

• 1:21:43Speaker 04

  But the place was clean as shit.

• 1:21:44Speaker 02

  No security, Latina gang fights in every bathroom.

• 1:21:49Joe Rogan?

  I think it was just a regular club. It's just they just only got female staff to run everything.

• 1:21:54Speaker 04

  That's great. You sometimes see there was like an all female comedy festival.

• 1:21:57Joe Rogan?

  Imagine if you tried to do an all male comedy festival?

• 1:22:00Speaker 04

  It'd be hilarious. We have it, it's gang fest.

• 1:22:02Speaker 02

  Be a good festival. Have you seen that?

• 1:22:03Joe Rogan?

  There's a few girls show up.

• 1:22:04Speaker 02

  Did you ever see, there's like, I forget, there's some shift in some town where their brag is like, and this shift is all a hundred percent female police officers. Like, well, now we know the time and place, dude.

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  Let's lose.

• 1:22:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, take over this fucking city, dude.

• 1:22:19Speaker 04

  They'll do that with, on a flight. I wasn't on it, but I've seen it where it's like, just so you know, today, all of the flight attendants and our captain and co-captain are female. You're like, what? Let me off this fucking flight right now.

• 1:22:32Joe Rogan?

  Wasn't that the case in Toronto where the plane flipped upside down? I think that was that.

• 1:22:36Speaker 04

  That's the movie Flight with Denzel Washington.

• 1:22:37Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  They woke you up and they were like, hey, do you know how to read a map?

• 1:22:40Joe Rogan?

  She came in hot, she came in hot on the landing and flipped the plane.

• 1:22:44Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, when it landed upside down, I did, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:22:47Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 1:22:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:22:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, I think that was one of them deals.

• 1:22:50Speaker 04

  If I get a female Uber driver, I rebook my Uber.

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 1:22:53Speaker 04

  They drive so slow and buy like the the laws.

• 1:22:56Joe Rogan?

  Why not just get a Waymo?

• 1:22:58Speaker 04

  I did. I've been in Waymo twice.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  Cause I, yeah, dude, an Asian woman driver is the worst. There's a lot of that in New York City sometimes.

• 1:23:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:05Speaker 02

  It's crazy and they are slow and they do not change lanes and it is brutal to sit there in the back and not yell.

• 1:23:11Speaker 04

  I know, and then they're going exactly to the speed limits. You can't complain.

• 1:23:14Joe Rogan?

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:23:15Speaker 04

  Like, please break the law. This is crazy.

• 1:23:16Joe Rogan?

  Did you see that guy who was one of the producers of Top Gear in the UK? He got his license revoked because he went twenty-four miles an hour in a twenty mile an hour zone. They took his license away for six months.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  Weird, weird.

• 1:23:30Joe Rogan?

  It's apparent, how rough is England?

• 1:23:32Speaker 02

  That town needs a Mexican uprising, it sounds like.

• 1:23:34Joe Rogan?

  Sounds like? They did an English uprising.

• 1:23:37Speaker 04

  That'd be twenty, it's, but it is twenty. I was just driving from Manchester to London. When you get into London, the speed limit is twenty miles an hour.

• 1:23:46Joe Rogan?

  That is so crazy.

• 1:23:47Speaker 04

  It's insane.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  How many kilometers per hour is that?

• 1:23:50Speaker 04

  I don't know, but, cause the, my driver, uh, had, it was in miles per hour, like his, uh, speedometer, and it was twenty miles an hour he was going, and it just feels like you're in slow motion. It's insane.

• 1:24:00Joe Rogan?

  Well, do they, why, do they always use miles per hour? I think they use kilometers, right?

• 1:24:05Speaker 04

  No, I think they do, yeah.

• 1:24:05Joe Rogan?

  Canada uses kilometers.

• 1:24:06Speaker 04

  I thought they use kilometers. But this car, this car specifically had miles per hour on the speedometer.

• 1:24:11Joe Rogan?

  Aren't we like?

• 1:24:12Speaker 02

  But you're on the wrong side of the road?

• 1:24:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  Is that weird?

• 1:24:15Speaker 04

  I, I would have.

• 1:24:15Speaker 02

  You're a bad driver on the right side of the road.

• 1:24:17Speaker 04

  Uh, well, I wasn't driving. I did drive in Jamaica, so, cause that was an English-owned, uh, country.

• 1:24:22Speaker 02

  Territory.

• 1:24:23Speaker 04

  So, uh, they're on the opposite side as well, and I rented mopeds when I was in Jamaica, and you get used to it very quickly. Like, you think it's gonna really turn you around, but like, whatever it is, your mind just flips it and.

• 1:24:34Speaker 02

  As soon as I drive into Canada, right away, even in Canada signs, I'm like, oh, no. Oh, no.

• 1:24:39Speaker 04

  Here we go, we're gonna go east.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, ost.

• 1:24:42Speaker 04

  Ost.

• 1:24:42Speaker 02

  Nord.

• 1:24:43Joe Rogan?

  How many different countries use inches and miles an hour? Doesn't everybody use kilometers now? Doesn't everybody use the metric system?

• 1:24:50Speaker 02

  I still think they're wrong.

• 1:24:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's crazy.

• 1:24:52Joe Rogan?

  They tried it on us when I was in high school.

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:24:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they tried to re, they tried to introduce the metric systems if this is gonna be the thing that we all accept, and everybody's like, meh.

• 1:25:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:01Joe Rogan?

  Nah.

• 1:25:02Speaker 02

  Antiquated.

• 1:25:02Speaker 04

  Not in this country, bitch.

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  I don't follow the Dewey Decimal System either.

• 1:25:05Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  Suck my dick, old people.

• 1:25:06Joe Rogan?

  Whoa. Fuck your kilograms.

• 1:25:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:11Joe Rogan?

  It's a weird thing that one country just says nah, we can't learn it.

• 1:25:16Speaker 02

  Fuck that.

• 1:25:17Joe Rogan?

  I mean, how many countries have it? How many countries have inches? I think it's maybe England.

• 1:25:22Speaker 05

  It says, uh, the UK, USA, and Canada keep miles per hour.

• 1:25:26Speaker 04

  Oh, so is that what is England is miles per hour?

• 1:25:28Speaker 02

  Oh, no, they have it like it's it's double, but it's their main thing is definitely kilometers for sure.

• 1:25:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, so everything else it's, uh.

• 1:25:36Joe Rogan?

  Everything else is kilometers? So it's like, how was like six countries? That have, um, kilometer or miles per hour?

• 1:25:44Speaker 02

  Or inches?

• 1:25:47Joe Rogan?

  This is weird that we didn't like, I I still don't know.

• 1:25:49Speaker 02

  I feel like Dick, I feel like Dick is inches in every.

• 1:25:51Speaker 04

  You think so?

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  Place.

• 1:25:52Speaker 04

  My dick, my dick is thirty six decimeters.

• 1:25:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, nobody's talking about that.

• 1:25:56Speaker 02

  Twenty six thousand kilometers. Do you know what I'm gonna do? Do you guys have a?

• 1:26:00Joe Rogan?

  Vast majority of countries use kilometers per hour. Um, nine percent of the world uses miles per hour, US being the notable example. Interesting.

• 1:26:09Speaker 04

  So it's all the UK. I wasn't wrong.

• 1:26:10Joe Rogan?

  When I was in, uh, England for the fights, they measure people in stone. So they say ten stone.

• 1:26:17Speaker 04

  I have no idea what that means.

• 1:26:18Joe Rogan?

  I think it's two hundred and thirty pounds. I think it's, is it thirteen pounds each stone? It's a weird, old timey fucking measure, but you have to say it.

• 1:26:27Speaker 04

  Was it actually based off of stones?

• 1:26:29Joe Rogan?

  I think so.

• 1:26:30Speaker 04

  Probably, right?

• 1:26:31Joe Rogan?

  Fourteen pounds, so fourteen pounds, so that would be two hundred and forty pounds, ten stone.

• 1:26:33Speaker 02

  I think it was actually like, like a fucking scale, a justice scale with like the person on one side and stones on the other. I think it's what it comes from.

• 1:26:41Speaker 04

  I do like England, though. It's shitty food, but it's still just a cool, like London's a cool town.

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  You like being the only circumcised person in a room, you piece of shit?

• 1:26:48Joe Rogan?

  So no, ten stones, a hundred and forty pounds, right? You said, you said it's fourteen pounds per?

• 1:26:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:26:53Joe Rogan?

  Okay. Twenty stone would be two hundred and forty pounds. So then you'd have to say the, the like eight, like five stone, nine ounces, then say the fucking pounds afterwards. It was, it's weird, like, why? Talking about weird things to keep holding on to, stone, that's a strange one.

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  Do you go and see the places and any of those weird destinations for UFC?

• 1:27:12Joe Rogan?

  I definitely have, yeah. Yeah, London's cool. It's interesting. You you'd go into a bar that's a five hundred year old place. It's weird. Like, there's some old shit in that town.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:27:23Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:27:23Speaker 02

  And you see how New York was like designed after it so much.

• 1:27:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, London's a cool town. I like I like, honestly, if I like cities that remind me of New York. It's like, I love Rome. Rome's like the OG New York.

• 1:27:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:27:34Speaker 04

  It's fucking really cool.

• 1:27:36Speaker 02

  How so? I don't think you're wrong. I've never been. How's it like New York?

• 1:27:40Speaker 04

  It's just, it feels like, because back in the day, it was like the most-

• 1:27:44Speaker 02

  See the Pope, you cocksucker.

• 1:27:45Joe Rogan?

  Like the hub. It's like very fast moving.

• 1:27:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were they were more advanced than everyone. They were just like, you know, architecturally, technologically, they they were way ahead of their time with everything.

• 1:27:55Joe Rogan?

  That St. Peter's Basilica is bananas. I think about that all the time. I think about it all the time, like, the amount of work involved in making something that spectacular.

• 1:28:04Speaker 04

  The Sistine Chapel is fucking nuts, dude. Michelangelo went blind painting it.

• 1:28:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:09Speaker 04

  Like, he was on scaffolding and, like, paint was just dripping into his eye and sort of going mad and fucking.

• 1:28:14Joe Rogan?

  Oh, God.

• 1:28:14Speaker 04

  It's so cool. And the details, and he wasn't even a painter, which is the craziest thing. He wasn't like, he wasn't, that wasn't by trade what he did. He was just a genius and could, like, emulate like that crazy ass art.

• 1:28:25Joe Rogan?

  He could do anything. The sculptures were insane.

• 1:28:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:28:28Joe Rogan?

  The fucking art in the Vatican, too, is nuts. When you're walking through the place, like, how much money is all this worth? Like, this is crazy.

• 1:28:35Speaker 04

  It's the biggest art museum in the world, and I'm going again. I brought my son a few years ago on a father-son trip, and he, I mean, he was eight years old. We we did a four-hour tour. We could have done an eight-hour tour. It was so cool. It was just never-ending. Just every room was more awesome than the next. The big map room, did you see that? They had like a map. It was like, you know, a hundred and fifty feet wide, fucking however many feet tall, and it was ninety-nine percent accurate. And whatever year it was that they made it, it was like, I don't know, like, hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Ninety-nine percent accurate, drawn by hand.

• 1:29:05Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy.

• 1:29:06Speaker 04

  I can't even begin to tell you how, like, I have no idea how that could possibly be done.

• 1:29:10Speaker 02

  Louis swore to me today he was gonna crowbar an art talk.

• 1:29:13Speaker 04

  I did.

• 1:29:13Speaker 02

  He said in the car, he goes, I bet I can get Joe to talk art.

• 1:29:15Joe Rogan?

  How about their books?

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  I said, he's gonna think it's gay, and he was like, I bet he doesn't.

• 1:29:19Joe Rogan?

  It's funny that art would be gay. You know?

• 1:29:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:29:24Joe Rogan?

  When you, the books that they have too, they have a crazy library.

• 1:29:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:29:28Joe Rogan?

  They probably have some books from the Library of Alexandria they got tucked away in there.

• 1:29:32Speaker 04

  Well, apparently the deeper you go, like, the more like exotic the shit is. There's like levels that you can only have access to if you're like a king or a fucking.

• 1:29:40Joe Rogan?

  That's why I believe people are capable of hiding UFO information. That's why I believe people are capable of, because there are people capable of hiding all kinds of shit.

• 1:29:50Speaker 02

  Well, what's, you're hiding England shit. No one gives a fuck.

• 1:29:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, Jay hides his herpes.

• 1:29:54Speaker 02

  What are they hiding in their salt? Things for their food taste good?

• 1:29:57Speaker 04

  The king's list. Yeah. This is when we had dragons. But, yeah.

• 1:30:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, the, yeah, the history of dragons been stifled by London.

• 1:30:05Speaker 04

  Jay doesn't, Jay doesn't travel. He won't go to other countries. I'm trying to get him to do shows like in the UK, just.

• 1:30:11Speaker 02

  I mean, they have the internet.

• 1:30:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:15Speaker 04

  Well, you gotta figure, New York to LA is a six hour flight. New York to Amsterdam is a seven hour flight.

• 1:30:19Speaker 02

  I tell you something, I've done everything, everything I did overseas, I did probably, or most things I should say, probably a little young in comedy. And intimidated myself on the situations.

• 1:30:31Speaker 04

  Well, it's up because you're poor, so you can't go to like a nice, nice restaurant or like you, you, you went.

• 1:30:36Speaker 02

  When I was in South Africa, I was wealthy, dude. It's their money is gar-bage. But, uh, but no, but I'm telling you, I've, and I've enjoyed some of the places when I've gone to them. It's just like, I am such a, a regular idiot that I'm just like, I'm not gonna understand the food. And then what, what am I gonna plug my stuff into? Doesn't it explode if it's wrong?

• 1:30:56Speaker 04

  Dude, Amsterdam, so when you go through like.

• 1:30:58Speaker 02

  Blows.

• 1:30:58Speaker 04

  When you walk through the red light district, like the places where you could buy like snacks, like they don't have many, dude, it's so funny. They have like, like hot dogs on like pizza buns. It's so for like dumb Americans to be like, oh, a hot dog on a pizza bun. You fucking just eat this terrible shit.

• 1:31:12Speaker 02

  Chocolate taco.

• 1:31:14Speaker 04

  Choco tacos are great.

• 1:31:15Speaker 02

  Choco taco.

• 1:31:16Speaker 04

  Choco tacos were fucking badass.

• 1:31:18Joe Rogan?

  I get it Jay. Why travel? Fuck it.

• 1:31:21Speaker 02

  I uh, yeah, I follow the Kid Rock credo. Just try to get famous here. Let's just handle it here. This is the best place to be famous if you can get famous.

• 1:31:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, who does it better than Kid Rock?

• 1:31:30Speaker 02

  Nobody. The guys really figured it out.

• 1:31:32Joe Rogan?

  Also, by gunning down that Miller Lite, you know, Bud Light rather. That Bud Light thing, gunned down those cans. Like, that was like one of the craziest moments in economy. Like, that fucking, the Bud Light stock dropped like a rock. Like, that moment when Kid Rock

• 1:31:52Joe Rogan?

  guns down the Bud Light.

• 1:31:53Speaker 02

  Kid Rock maybe though, if we were gonna appoint him something, he should make the Minister of Beer. Like, he should be the person deciding what beer we should have. I'll accept that. Cause his friendship with the President is hilarious.

• 1:32:03Joe Rogan?

  Funny.

• 1:32:03Speaker 02

  And wacky. There's been no other thing like that ever. You know what I mean? You never find out like, oh, Bill Clinton and Iverson kick it once in a while.

• 1:32:10Joe Rogan?

  Right, right.

• 1:32:11Speaker 02

  That never happened.

• 1:32:11Joe Rogan?

  Well, there was, um, what the fuck?

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  Oh, Bobby Brown and fucking Joe Biden fucking golf and crush ass together.

• 1:32:18Joe Rogan?

  What the fuck's his name that's friends with Kim Jong Un?

• 1:32:22Speaker 02

  Rodman.

• 1:32:22Joe Rogan?

  Rodman. Yeah, Rodman goes over there and hangs with Kim Jong Un.

• 1:32:25Speaker 02

  It's the best document- did you ever see that documentary?

• 1:32:27Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:32:28Speaker 02

  Oh, treat yourself as soon as humanly possible to Dennis Rodman's Big Bang and Pyongyang.

• 1:32:33Joe Rogan?

  Oh, boy.

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  It starts off as him going over there believing he's doing something diplomatic. And then they go, alright, so you're gonna go home and gather up some players and come here. And the documentary filmmaker goes, on the flight back, when they were coming back now to North Korea, he goes, oh, I noticed from the last time that Dennis has started drinking again. And he was supposed to be like stopped drinking completely. And then, the documentary takes off. Cause it's just Dennis Rodman fucking up in North Korea for two hours.

• 1:33:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:33:03Speaker 02

  He first comes in drunkenly, starts bowing everybody. It's not a bowing culture. So that's pretty hilarious. He treats the, uh, North Koreans like they're dolls. He'll like grab them and make them come sing karaoke and just points at them, like while they sing. He just dominates the room. And everyone's afraid of him and everyone hates him.

• 1:33:20Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:33:20Speaker 02

  It's one of the best documentaries. Is there a trailer for a trailer?

• 1:33:23Joe Rogan?

  What a crazy thing to go hang out with a dictator.

• 1:33:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:31Speaker 00

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• 1:33:41Speaker 02

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• 1:34:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you play basketball?

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  Kim Jong-un also does not want much to do with Dennis Rodman.

• 1:34:14Joe Rogan?

  What?

• 1:34:15Speaker 02

  Like after his meltdown, he like, he like stiffs him. He like has Dennis Rodman meet him at his like chalet and then he's not there.

• 1:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:34:21Speaker 02

  And there's just Dennis Rodman crying. Is this in the trailer? Oh.

• 1:34:27Speaker 07

  We're here today for Dennis Rodman to make a historic announcement following his recent visit to North Korea.

• 1:34:31Speaker 04

  The Ministry of Sports of the DPO Korea invites Mr. Dennis-

• 1:34:34Speaker 02

  I just realized how much influence stylistically you take from Dennis Rodman, Jay. Almost the same guy, a lot of people say.

• 1:34:40Speaker 07

  Mr. Rodman is on a private trip and our views about North Korea have not changed.

• 1:34:49Speaker 00

  You know, you got the J.C.'s, the Beyonce's, stuff like that. None of these people in the world are doing what I'm doing.

• 1:35:02Speaker 00

  I'm concerned, as many Americans are, about giving a birthday present to a man who is seen-

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Wait, pause it for one second. This, that, do you remember that interview on ESPN?

• 1:35:12Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:35:12Speaker 02

  So they had him and the players that agreed to play, uh, go on there and he loses his mind. Dennis Rodman. But in the documentary, they show you the whole buildup to that, which is, uh, the guy's meeting without Dennis Rodman. They're like, Dennis is a little off his rocker right now and America's turning on us. We're gonna do this interview with CNN while Dennis is asleep, hungover. And we'll just do it just us and we'll be able to explain this better, that we're just trying to be diplomatic and do something here. And then Dennis Rodman wakes up and finds out they're doing that.

• 1:35:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh my god.

• 1:35:40Speaker 02

  And he just barges on and he just cuts a wrestling promo on this and he's just slobber-filled and makes no sense.

• 1:35:46Speaker 00

  Who just had his uncle executed. I'm gonna rassass what the hell you think. I'm standing here. Look at these guys. Look at them.

• 1:36:06Speaker 02

  So great.

• 1:36:15Joe Rogan?

  Do you have to let the Koreans win? When you go over there?

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  Oh, it didn't matter. The Koreans, the game was such nonsense. Like, at first, it was the Americans versus them. They, the Koreans kept up with them because they're good and they're giving a shit and trying. Dennis Rodman stops playing. He just changes out of his thing, puts on street clothes and goes and hangs out with Kim Jong Un right away. And then he goes, at halftime, he just goes, "Some people switch jerseys." And then he goes, "So we could play together." And he just has them play. He also has the audience try to sing along "Happy Birthday" to Kim Jong Un when he starts the game, and the audience doesn't know what he's singing. So they just start clapping too fast while he's singing. It's really, it's two fantastic hours of television. I recommend it highly.

• 1:37:04Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:37:05Speaker 02

  I love that kind of just brazen, not seeing what's happening around you. Like, everyone's hating him and he's just like, "I'm killing it." You can't believe how good he's doing.

• 1:37:14Joe Rogan?

  That's great. So he doesn't go over there anymore?

• 1:37:17Speaker 02

  No. Well, I don't think so. I'm sure he still drinks, though. You stopped drinking. How was "Protect Our Parks" with no drinking?

• 1:37:23Joe Rogan?

  It was fun.

• 1:37:25Speaker 02

  And you're the only one not drinking there?

• 1:37:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:26Speaker 02

  But then at some point, aren't you wrangling three?

• 1:37:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:30Speaker 02

  People who are blackout drunk?

• 1:37:31Joe Rogan?

  But it's okay. I've been blackout drunk. I know what it feels like. It's not bad. It's just for health purposes. I was like, "I work out so much and I take care of my body. Like, why am I poisoning it all the time?" And I said, "Let me just take a break." And I just took a break and I was like, "God, why do I need it?" I was like, "What am I doing?" Like, everybody's like, "Do you want a drink?" "Yeah, let's have a drink." But sometimes you're just like, it's just like a force of habit. You know, have a drink every time I do a set, have a whiskey, have a shot before I go on stage.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  You feel like you're doing something. You feel bored when everyone else is drinking. But it's really no, like, I have way more energy when I'm not drinking.

• 1:38:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:05Speaker 02

  I could stay up and like, be present.

• 1:38:07Speaker 04

  Like I wanna, I wanna be in bed by eleven o'clock if I'm drinking or smoking weed.

• 1:38:11Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I've had three months off and I haven't had one bad day. So I haven't had one day physically where I feel like shit. That has to be it.

• 1:38:17Speaker 04

  Well, the other side is your metabolism. When I stopped drinking, I got really like just an incredible shape. Um, and as you're getting older, like even just like whatever it does to like my metabolism and everybody's different. Um, but it was like a huge difference in terms of how I felt in the gym, how much I could run, how much I could lift.

• 1:38:36Joe Rogan?

  It's fun. It's fun poison.

• 1:38:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:38:39Joe Rogan?

  It's fun.

• 1:38:42Speaker 04

  My doctor said those exact words. He's like, he's like, you're poisoning yourself. He was like, it's up to you. If you want to poison yourself a little bit, that's fine or a lot, you know, that's okay too, but.

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  That guy sounds fun.

• 1:38:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they were trying to say for a while, they're like.

• 1:38:54Joe Rogan?

  Remember they were trying to say for a while that one drink a night is probably good for you.

• 1:38:58Speaker 04

  Oh, like a glass of red wine. It's good for your heart.

• 1:39:00Joe Rogan?

  You know what the problem with that is aura rings. If you have an aura ring, you wear one of those things and then you have it one drink, you'll notice a difference in your sleep. Significant. It's real. It's measurable.

• 1:39:11Speaker 02

  I tried to track anything that's gonna be bad news.

• 1:39:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:14Speaker 02

  They're like, hey, should get a sleep study. He goes, why did no for a fact that I die twenty seven times a night?

• 1:39:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, there like things you could do where you see a doctor and they're gonna like be able to essentially predict within a couple of years of when you're actually gonna die.

• 1:39:25Speaker 02

  That's the Joe Rogan doctors. I wanna know, Joe, who's he send Bert to where they come and they put him in that machine like Luke Skywalker on Hoth and they come out and they're like, if you eat bean, if you never eat beans again, you'll live to a hundred and five.

• 1:39:37Joe Rogan?

  Bert is gonna need more than that. Every time I see him, he looks more like a grape. Like settle down, boy. He's uh capable of doing it on his own though. Bert has incredible willpower. Like if Bert wants to.

• 1:39:49Joe Rogan?

  He just drinks so much.

• 1:39:50Speaker 04

  It's part of his thing, you know, so I feel he feels like, I shouldn't put words in his mouth, but he was like, am I Burt Kreischer if I'm not getting fucked up and having fun with the fans like that?

• 1:39:58Joe Rogan?

  Like if he does a show and he doesn't take his shirt off, people will boo.

• 1:40:03Joe Rogan?

  We fucking paid to see tits.

• 1:40:06Speaker 02

  I think he wants to take his shirt off and they want it to come off.

• 1:40:08Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent. I do too. I think I told, I told Bert. I run to the balcony when he's about to take his shirt off.

• 1:40:13Speaker 02

  Last time I did-

• 1:40:14Joe Rogan?

  Cause there's a big cheer, the pop when he takes his shirt off, everybody goes crazy. It's fun.

• 1:40:18Speaker 02

  When I did, uh, Bert's pocket last time, I was like, stop letting everybody get in your head. About like, all these complaints are about Bert being the same person that we all are and also who he is. But it's like now, it's all of a sudden like, you know, he worries about that shit. And I'm like, Bert, people want you to take your shirt off. And they want to hear your stories about your family. You're letting people, uh, go like, well, you don't do it like this person. It's like, well, you don't tell jokes like Mark Norman. You know, that's not what your thing is. So it's not a thing to worry about.

• 1:40:41Joe Rogan?

  He reads the comments. That's the problem. You read the comments, it'll fuck with your head. No matter how mentally strong you are, if you're reading a bunch of opinions about you, it'll fuck with your head.

• 1:40:49Speaker 04

  Yeah. And it's, it's just like the same people who go onto Yelp and write reviews. It's just people that want to complain. So when you go onto social media-

• 1:40:56Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 1:40:57Speaker 04

  It's just like, you get, it feels like, like I have a pretty decent fan base, like Legion of Skanks, we have a really like, healthy fan base. And then there's like thirty dudes-

• 1:41:05Speaker 02

  They're not healthy.

• 1:41:06Speaker 04

  Not, not physically healthy. There's like thirty dudes who hate me and want my son to die. And if you go onto Twitter, I'll just see that and it does like fuck with you.

• 1:41:13Joe Rogan?

  It's not good.

• 1:41:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:41:14Speaker 02

  It's all thirty of his followers.

• 1:41:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, there's a lot of crazy people out there and there's also a lot of kids that just want to get a rise out of you. You know, there's a lot of things going on. There's a lot of people that want to fuck with your head, but it's almost all unhappy people, unfortunately.

• 1:41:28Speaker 02

  I just learned that very quickly though, like the ones that I have responded to, even when I respond, like my thing was always to respond kind of funny. I'm not getting into fights.

• 1:41:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:35Speaker 02

  Or so it'd be, someone write like a, two paragraphs about how terrible I am and I'd be like, you know, come on Jimbo, you don't mean it. And then how much they write, I mean, without fail, almost a hundred percent of the time, they're like, dude, just being a piece of shit, man. I had a crappy day. Love you dude. Listen every day to whatever.

• 1:41:50Speaker 04

  Well, you meet him in real life. Sometimes you'll see, there's one guy who tweets at me almost every day where he says, Louis J Gomez has lip fillers and he's trying to get this to be a thing to catch on. Um, and then like, like every day he's trolling me and I'm like, this fucking guy. And like for maybe two years, Louis J Gomez has lip fillers. He'll respond to everything. Other people tweet at me. It's like, just so you know, you're, you're talking to somebody who has lip fillers. And I don't have lip fillers. I have beautiful Puerto Rican lips. This guy showed up at a show-

• 1:42:15Speaker 02

  You had a little work.

• 1:42:15Speaker 04

  Dude, he showed up at a show in, um-

• 1:42:17Joe Rogan?

  That was a while for a dude. That's wild.

• 1:42:21Speaker 04

  He showed up at a show in Raleigh, North Carolina with a T-shirt that said Louis J Gomez has lip fillers. And then I was like, I should bite your fucking nose off your face. What are you doing? But he's just like, oh, no, I'm a fan. Like, it's hilarious.

• 1:42:32Joe Rogan?

  He's just being silly.

• 1:42:33Speaker 04

  He's just being silly every day.

• 1:42:34Joe Rogan?

  He's being silly.

• 1:42:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:42:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's part of the fun of being a fan.

• 1:42:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:42:37Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 1:42:38Speaker 04

  No, I noticed.

• 1:42:38Joe Rogan?

  Get a rise out of you, it worked.

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  I noticed. So I steer clear.

• 1:42:41Joe Rogan?

  He got you.

• 1:42:42Speaker 04

  He's in the front row.

• 1:42:43Joe Rogan?

  He got you. He got you.

• 1:42:45Speaker 02

  I steer clear of comedy just because of that, yeah. It's like, I don't know, I'd rather just meet people and if they show up, I guess they're fans.

• 1:42:51Speaker 04

  They're so sweet in person because Skankfest is like, half of them are like people who are on Reddit and trolling. And you go to Skankfest and it is just thousands of people that are like,

• 1:42:58Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:58Speaker 04

  Just, it's love.

• 1:42:59Speaker 02

  Oh, so I say, Skankfest particularly, it's like, you know, they say, how many times in your life have you walked by a murderer? It's like, how many times does Skankfest do, I walk by, take a picture and shake hands with somebody who was like, Dude, you used to be good, but you suck dick in comedy now. Alright.

• 1:43:12Joe Rogan?

  You're always gonna get guys like that.

• 1:43:14Speaker 04

  There was one guy who was a fan of ours in the old school when we were at the Creek and Cave back in New York. This is dude who was, he used to wear black glasses, long black hair, and he was at every episode. He ended up murdering his mother.

• 1:43:25Joe Rogan?

  Oh, Jesus.

• 1:43:25Speaker 04

  Murdering his mother.

• 1:43:26Speaker 02

  And then becoming great friends with Doug Stanhope after he murdered his mother.

• 1:43:30Speaker 04

  Like a jail pen pal with Stanhope.

• 1:43:32Joe Rogan?

  Whoa.

• 1:43:33Speaker 02

  It was pretty funny, he, uh, when he got out, he's out, he like lives in like a halfway house type thing now because it was a mental issue that he did that.

• 1:43:39Speaker 04

  Which is like,

• 1:43:40Speaker 02

  He killed his mom.

• 1:43:40Joe Rogan?

  Clearly.

• 1:43:41Speaker 04

  If you kill your mom, well, you know, she might have been a bitch.

• 1:43:44Joe Rogan?

  She'd have to do something really bad.

• 1:43:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, if you kill your mom, I feel like, I don't care, you obviously have mental issues.

• 1:43:49Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:43:49Speaker 04

  I don't like,

• 1:43:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he was in the, like, but he had that, when he called us, he described it, it was like, it was like he thought she was like, A demon that he had to stop before she got out in the world. Like, he went, he went crazy.

• 1:43:58Speaker 04

  But I still feel like you should lock that guy up.

• 1:44:00Joe Rogan?

  You haven't even paid attention to the BJ Penn stuff?

• 1:44:03Speaker 04

  He's, he's like losing it, right?

• 1:44:04Joe Rogan?

  BJ Penn claims that his family are imposters? That someone has kidnapped his family and replaced them?

• 1:44:11Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that's a very,

• 1:44:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:44:12Speaker 02

  Isn't it funny when they hit the, uh, with mania and manic shit like that? And, uh, bipolar with those kind of things, like, they really like, they're textbook. If you look it up, because I've looked it up before, you look it up, it's texting one sentence at a time. A really, a newfound thing in like religion.

• 1:44:31Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:44:32Speaker 02

  And like being serious about it all of a sudden, like, it's always been that way. And weirdly, and they always have those things, that's one of them too.

• 1:44:38Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:44:38Speaker 02

  Like, everyone's, everyone's fake.

• 1:44:39Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 1:44:40Speaker 02

  Everyone in my life has been replaced with somebody else. They called something particularly.

• 1:44:44Joe Rogan?

  Some of them think they have a chip in their head and people are talking to them. Yeah, there's a lot of that. A lot of that is they have a chip in their head.

• 1:44:51Speaker 02

  Well, this guy who killed his mom and Doug Stanio became friends with, Doug was doing a Zoom Skanks one time episode with us and he had that guy call in. And, uh, you know, we were asking him kind of about what happened and he just, you know, he gave a very compelling story and we were saying goodbye to him. He goes, uh, I just remember this. He goes, I just want to say, uh, you know, when I was going through all that horrible stuff and the last several years, it had been so difficult and terrible and my family hating me, but I still always, man, I listen to you guys and laugh and I just want to say that I love you guys. And I was like, well, I think, I think I speak for the group and I say, phew. Because we all are aware of what you'll do if you feel someone is a problem. So.

• 1:45:35Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, or a demon.

• 1:45:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, or possibly a demon.

• 1:45:38Speaker 04

  Yeah. See, I'm, the point is, we have some great fans.

• 1:45:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:45:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:42Speaker 02

  Only once murdered their mom on record.

• 1:45:44Joe Rogan?

  You guys are doing something really fun. You're getting all the misfits together, you know, and you're, you're celebrating comedy. So it's like a real comedy, like a comics festival, like the comics look forward to it. Everybody loves it. Everybody talks so highly of it. You know, and everybody says the vibe is so fun because they, they just go there to see like, you know, people were real upset when Louis CK started to come back into the public eye.

• 1:46:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:46:07Joe Rogan?

  But, uh, one of my favorite moments is when he went up at Skank Fest. They didn't know he was going to be there.

• 1:46:11Speaker 04

  That was the first time he performed in America after he got canceled.

• 1:46:14Joe Rogan?

  It was awesome.

• 1:46:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. And it was, it was, I mean, it was, and what's beautiful about the fans, they're educated comedy fans. So we didn't even have to tell them to not pull out their cell phones.

• 1:46:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:46:23Speaker 04

  Not a single person took video, not a single person like.

• 1:46:26Joe Rogan?

  Well, they definitely did because I watched the video.

• 1:46:28Speaker 04

  I took that, no, no, no.

• 1:46:29Joe Rogan?

  That's you?

• 1:46:29Speaker 04

  I took that video of Justin Silver announcing, ladies and gentlemen, you know, special guest. And I didn't take any of his set. It was just him walking on a stage, standing ovation. It made TMZ. It was fucking really cool. I mean, I was, I was, I was a pig in shit. I went outside. I got emotional. I was like, that was fucking so cool.

• 1:46:45Joe Rogan?

  That's cool.

• 1:46:45Speaker 02

  What was really neat about, was funny about that moment was I was with Soder, Dan Soder, and I was like, uh, I was like, you wanna come outside? I'm gonna smoke a joint outside. He goes, yeah, sure. And as we were just walking through that room, I wasn't even thinking about it. They go, he goes, oh, you know, he goes, we should watch Louis come on real quick. And I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. Like, I didn't overthink of the moment you were about to watch, but so crazy.

• 1:47:04Speaker 04

  It was really, it was really cool. Like, uh, that was, that was like one of the coolest moments at the festival. That and then the Tough Crowd. We did a Tough Crowd reunion at Skank Fest in Brooklyn a few years ago. Just having everybody from Tough Crowd get together and.

• 1:47:17Joe Rogan?

  That's awesome.

• 1:47:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, Colin, you know, being at the head of it, that was awesome.

• 1:47:20Joe Rogan?

  That was one of the best shows ever.

• 1:47:21Speaker 04

  He should, he should just make it a podcast. It would be a huge podcast.

• 1:47:25Joe Rogan?

  One hundred percent. I wonder if he has the name, if he owns the name.

• 1:47:28Speaker 04

  I think he does.

• 1:47:29Joe Rogan?

  Well, then he should definitely do it.

• 1:47:30Speaker 04

  I think he does. I think he just doesn't want to.

• 1:47:31Joe Rogan?

  I think, well, it might be something that someone needs to offer it to him and put it together, you know? Like, if someone, like.

• 1:47:37Speaker 02

  It could be something, if you said it, he'd be like, I never even thought of that until this moment. Seriously, right?

• 1:47:42Speaker 04

  A lot of people have, a lot. He's, he's been approached with it.

• 1:47:44Joe Rogan?

  He was great at the club. He was at the club a couple of weeks ago.

• 1:47:47Speaker 04

  He's awesome. Colin's awesome.

• 1:47:48Joe Rogan?

  He was great. All the comics that worked there, they all, like, lined up to watch him, you know?

• 1:47:55Speaker 02

  I mean, he's a real, like, he's just such a pro.

• 1:47:57Joe Rogan?

  It's also his material's so interesting.

• 1:47:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:00Joe Rogan?

  He's such an interesting guy.

• 1:48:01Speaker 02

  Well, he does the one-man shows. They're fantastic.

• 1:48:04Joe Rogan?

  When I, the last time I did Tough Crowd, uh, he warmed up the crowd, and so he's doing stand-up in front of the crowd, and he was fucking murdering. I'm like, this is way better than even Tough Crowd. Like, he's one of the most underrated guys of all time. You know, like, all us comics know how funny he is.

• 1:48:19Speaker 04

  He's like a real comics comic. And every, every, he's like in the top three for, it's like a, it's like a tell, like, he's, there, it's always like top three for every comedian.

• 1:48:26Speaker 02

  It was also, though, that place was like the Shark Tank, though, for something. When they got.

• 1:48:29Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:48:30Speaker 02

  That fan, I never felt bad for somebody more in my life when they had him on there. And the only segment that was, uh, produced of Tough Crowd, you remember, was the last one. You had to write and give them, like, the, whatever your little rant was gonna be about the final topic. I did it once.

• 1:48:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:48:46Speaker 02

  About that, uh, final topic. That was the only, like, homework you had to do at all. And, um, that fan was clearly gonna do something about, like, his mother and do the voice or something.

• 1:48:56Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 1:48:57Speaker 02

  And Patrice, right before he, like, was about to do his part, his fourth segment thing, he goes, hey, let's see if you can do two minutes without talking, doing your mom accent.

• 1:49:06Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:49:07Speaker 02

  And then Voss and all those guys just, like, started pouncing on him, and then he just had to go like, ha, you guys. So my mother called me, like, oh, you had to do it still.

• 1:49:17Speaker 04

  That's always, that's always prepared.

• 1:49:20Joe Rogan?

  Ooh.

• 1:49:21Speaker 04

  That was, but it was like in the, like an OG podcast, before podcasting was podcasting, like just a bunch of comics sitting around, just barking at each other, arguing. So fun.

• 1:49:30Joe Rogan?

  It was fun.

• 1:49:31Speaker 04

  Way ahead of its time. But then again, like Regis and Kathie Lee was a podcast technically too.

• 1:49:35Joe Rogan?

  Technically, if you really think about it.

• 1:49:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, The View, all these shows.

• 1:49:38Joe Rogan?

  I think Opie and Anthony was the big start of it all.

• 1:49:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:49:41Joe Rogan?

  That was what started it off for me, because that was the first time I was ever on a show where it was no structure. It was just comics.

• 1:49:47Speaker 02

  Shoot the shit, yeah.

• 1:49:48Joe Rogan?

  Like, we all could be on Opie and Anthony, we'd be having this exact same conversation, except Norton and Kumia and Opie would be here. Same fucking conversation.

• 1:49:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:49:56Joe Rogan?

  You know, it was just, they would let you go.

• 1:49:58Speaker 04

  I was more of a Howard Stern guy, you know, and I know so were you as well, but without Opie and Anthony, like, shows like Legion of Skanks wouldn't exist. Like, that's the truth. Like, we also, there's a lot of fans that are just like, just these fifty-year-old truckers, that are just like, we need something.

• 1:50:11Speaker 02

  Our generation was having a much harder time, like, it wasn't like back in the day when Stern was, Howard Stern was bringing on comics, all the comics, because that was like his crew he was trying to build up. Like, we were past that, so we had no, there was no, like, show that was like that for anybody, which, except for Opie and Anthony. I was Ron and Fez, you remember Ron and Fez's show?

• 1:50:29Joe Rogan?

  Sure, yeah, yeah.

• 1:50:30Speaker 02

  That's the show that kind of like took me in, that I, uh, jobbed with best.

• 1:50:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:34Speaker 02

  And that was a lot of fun.

• 1:50:35Joe Rogan?

  Ron Bennington's fucking great.

• 1:50:36Speaker 04

  He's hilarious.

• 1:50:37Speaker 02

  He's the best.

• 1:50:37Speaker 04

  So funny.

• 1:50:38Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's like, you know, there's a whole, you could track, like, like Ancient Man, you know, like fucking prehistoric, you could track podcasts to where it is.

• 1:50:48Speaker 02

  Oh, without a doubt. How about Marc Maron just quitting?

• 1:50:51Joe Rogan?

  I know, crazy.

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  He's done, he's, he's hanging it up. Not fun anymore.

• 1:50:55Speaker 04

  The, uh, yeah, but like, Opie and Anthony, what they did different than Stern was they put comics on. There was a few comics that would come on Stern, they would interview, like, but they were mega-stars. Opie and Anthony figured out they could put three or four comics in a room and create like a beautiful chaos. And it was just gonna be people bouncing off each other, you'd create these moments that nobody knew was gonna happen. Really cool.

• 1:51:14Speaker 02

  Stern did not believe in that.

• 1:51:16Joe Rogan?

  You want a cigar?

• 1:51:17Speaker 04

  I'll take a cigar. Hell yeah, dude.

• 1:51:20Speaker 04

  I love a good cigar.

• 1:51:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, Stern's thing now is for comics.

• 1:51:25Speaker 04

  Oh, Stern sucks now.

• 1:51:26Speaker 02

  Now it has to be, I know, it's really, it's funny, like, I was one of the last people to check out.

• 1:51:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, you liked Stern way too late.

• 1:51:33Speaker 02

  I still, listen, I still arbitrarily just go to it, and I think he's the best that ever did it, I think he, I give him all the kudos in the world.

• 1:51:39Joe Rogan?

  Without him, there would be nothing.

• 1:51:40Speaker 02

  None of it, I give him all the kudos in the world, it's just, I think the, like, I don't think, I think his last, like, phase here, might be like, I might be weirdly too young for it. Like, possibly.

• 1:51:52Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 1:51:53Speaker 02

  Like, the interviews don't really-

• 1:51:54Speaker 04

  These are the rugged ones, these are good.

• 1:51:56Speaker 02

  The interviews don't really strike me anymore, I really don't, he's not gonna get to anything that I care about with Sarah Jessica Parker, it's just not gonna get, he's-

• 1:52:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:03Speaker 02

  I remember back in the day, he made the guy, one of those guys who died from LFO, remember that, that song from the 90s, uh, what is that, like, Chinese food makes me sick, some, Girls of Summer?

• 1:52:15Joe Rogan?

  I don't know what that is, you're a real cigar guy, look at you, you know how to burn before you-

• 1:52:19Speaker 02

  It's a one-hit, it's a one-hit wonder.

• 1:52:21Speaker 04

  I don't remember it at all.

• 1:52:22Speaker 02

  LFO, they were like around the same time as all the boy bands, and they got, uh, pretty popular, and he made one of those guys so interesting, he got him to talk about fucking Jennifer Love Hewitt, and then her dumping him, and the way he found out he was dumped, like, she gave him a ring, that was like a promise ring, from her to him, and then he saw her in like a tabloid walking with another guy, and the guy had the same exact ring, that's just her ring she gives out.

• 1:52:46Joe Rogan?

  She's a wild girl.

• 1:52:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:52:48Joe Rogan?

  Giving out rings to dudes.

• 1:52:49Speaker 02

  I know, she fucking aged like a goddamn plum, though, she looks like shit.

• 1:52:53Joe Rogan?

  Oh, no.

• 1:52:54Speaker 04

  If he looks like shit now, I feel bad, it's a big, too big of a platform to be really trashing a girl for not being pretty anymore, fucked up.

• 1:53:00Joe Rogan?

  Back off of that.

• 1:53:01Speaker 02

  This is the way to do it.

• 1:53:02Joe Rogan?

  You'll feel better if you don't say it.

• 1:53:04Speaker 02

  Hillary Clinton.

• 1:53:04Speaker 04

  No, I mean, no, Pamela Anderson, I mean, goddamn it, did she fall off, she was the hottest woman-

• 1:53:11Joe Rogan?

  She stopped wearing makeup.

• 1:53:12Speaker 02

  She put it back on again, it didn't help a lot, but I will say- No, she was Pamela Anderson. First of all, the documentary about her they did on Netflix.

• 1:53:21Speaker 04

  Jay loves documentaries. Jay loves the documentary.

• 1:53:24Speaker 02

  Loved them. Uh, the one they did about her on Netflix.

• 1:53:26Speaker 04

  He won't read a book, but he'll watch a documentary all day long.

• 1:53:28Joe Rogan?

  Who's got time for books?

• 1:53:30Speaker 02

  Um, but the thing about her made me like her. The one about Anna Nicole Smith made me realize what a piece of shit she was. I mean, terrible person it seemed like. Uh, and then Pamela Anderson made me kinda like fall in love with her again where I'm like, this is a she really is just like a dummy who just believes in love.

• 1:53:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:53:46Speaker 02

  She's like a sucker.

• 1:53:47Speaker 04

  No, she had, I had a couple of moments where she talked about, um, like during the Me Too movement, she was like, look, she was like, I got invited to every hotel room by every director in Hollywood. She was like, I didn't go because I knew what the fuck they wanted. And she just kinda had a very real opinion on that whole sort of movement and what was going on. It's like, you know what's happening if you go to a hotel room with some fucking powerful guy. Like, you know, you have to take a certain amount of, you know, accountability yourself. And she had a very real take on it, which I kind of respected.

• 1:54:14Joe Rogan?

  Well, Hollywood had a long history doing that. Tarantino was telling me about this old school director that had a bedroom in his office.

• 1:54:20Speaker 04

  And his name was Quentin Tarantino.

• 1:54:23Speaker 02

  His name was Tintin Quarantino.

• 1:54:27Speaker 04

  Dude, are you fucking, are we talking about that right where he, he, uh, in Desperado, was it? Or, uh, no, um, Dust Till Dawn, where he's like.

• 1:54:35Speaker 02

  That's Dave always, yeah, yeah.

• 1:54:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's like, I'm gonna, uh, I'm gonna have Salma Hayek shove her foot in somebody's mouth. You know what? I think it'll be me.

• 1:54:42Speaker 02

  I'll take that. I'm not gonna put George Clooney through the sweet sensation of sucking Salma Hayek's beautiful foot.

• 1:54:49Speaker 04

  Oh, God, she was hot in that scene.

• 1:54:51Joe Rogan?

  He played such a good serial killer in that fucking movie.

• 1:54:54Speaker 04

  That was great. I just watched it like two weeks ago again. Yeah.

• 1:54:57Joe Rogan?

  He was such a good psycho.

• 1:54:58Speaker 02

  I prefer Black Dust Till Dawn called Sinners. I don't think Dust Till Dawn had enough of a social commentary.

• 1:55:03Speaker 04

  I thought Sinners was great. People hate on Sinners.

• 1:55:05Joe Rogan?

  I didn't see it. It was fun. Was it great?

• 1:55:07Speaker 04

  It's fun. People try to politicize everything. I'm like, it's just a fun vampire movie. Who cares?

• 1:55:10Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You don't like a good vampire movie?

• 1:55:12Speaker 02

  No, I love, I love a good vampire movie.

• 1:55:14Speaker 04

  Kind of, yeah. They were saying it's like an attack on white culture.

• 1:55:17Speaker 02

  The annoyance of politicizing.

• 1:55:18Speaker 04

  The first vampires were like white and they were like feasting on black people. And, uh, which, you know, black people would be more delicious.

• 1:55:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:25Joe Rogan?

  But you very rarely, other than Blade, you very rarely get a black vampire.

• 1:55:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:55:29Speaker 02

  Sweeter than juice.

• 1:55:30Joe Rogan?

  You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, you remember Blackula?

• 1:55:32Speaker 04

  Blackula.

• 1:55:33Joe Rogan?

  You remember Blackula?

• 1:55:34Speaker 02

  It had to be a comedy.

• 1:55:35Joe Rogan?

  It was, no, it was a fucking movie.

• 1:55:36Speaker 02

  No, but it's a co- it's like a.

• 1:55:38Joe Rogan?

  No, Blackula wasn't a comedy.

• 1:55:39Speaker 02

  Right, kind of, but it's supposed to be ridiculous.

• 1:55:41Joe Rogan?

  I think it was a horror movie. I think it was a legit horror movie, just a black vampire.

• 1:55:45Speaker 02

  Do you know Blackula?

• 1:55:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there it is.

• 1:55:47Speaker 02

  Blackula, I found this out from that Peewee Herman documentary. Uh, Blackula was the mailman on Peewee's Playhouse.

• 1:55:55Joe Rogan?

  For real?

• 1:55:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:55:57Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:55:57Speaker 02

  Isn't that weird?

• 1:55:59Joe Rogan?

  Phil Hartman was on Peewee's Playhouse.

• 1:56:01Speaker 02

  Died hating him.

• 1:56:02Joe Rogan?

  What, Phil Hartman did?

• 1:56:03Speaker 02

  He hated Peewee Herman when he died.

• 1:56:05Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 1:56:05Speaker 02

  Still, yeah.

• 1:56:06Joe Rogan?

  What makes you say that?

• 1:56:06Speaker 02

  That's the thing in the documentary.

• 1:56:07Joe Rogan?

  Phil Hartman hated Peewee Herman?

• 1:56:09Speaker 02

  Phil Hartman did an interview with Howard Stern. Howard Stern asked him about that and he was like, yeah, we don't speak anymore.

• 1:56:13Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:56:14Speaker 02

  He thought he didn't get enough credit, I think, for, uh, Peewee's Big Adventure and shit.

• 1:56:17Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's unfortunate.

• 1:56:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:20Joe Rogan?

  That's weird, cause Phil was easy.

• 1:56:21Speaker 02

  Peewee Herman was a real bitchy queen, but very interesting.

• 1:56:23Joe Rogan?

  Easy to get along with, like, Phil was.

• 1:56:26Speaker 04

  Ask his wife.

• 1:56:27Joe Rogan?

  The, he was easy for me. I got along with him great. I loved that guy.

• 1:56:33Speaker 02

  Andy Dick, there was the problem.

• 1:56:34Joe Rogan?

  He was fun, man. He was just too wild, you know, but I did so many scenes with that dude where we had to do him like three or four times cause I couldn't stop laughing. I just couldn't stop breaking character.

• 1:56:45Speaker 02

  It's more just like sad what he's going through now.

• 1:56:47Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's not good.

• 1:56:49Speaker 02

  But he also just gets like, he's one of those guys, he's like letting himself get used by people, I assume for drugs or something, but I mean, like.

• 1:56:54Joe Rogan?

  I don't know.

• 1:56:55Speaker 02

  Cause he ends up on these like weird pods where it's like he's sleeping at some guy's house or something weird.

• 1:56:59Joe Rogan?

  It's not good, yeah.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  He's out of it. And he was right there on the precipice with jury duty. Paulie Shore's vehicle, jury duty.

• 1:57:07Joe Rogan?

  Right. He did other stuff too, man. He did that, that fucking war movie. What was the war movie they did?

• 1:57:15Speaker 02

  Oh, In the Army Now.

• 1:57:16Joe Rogan?

  That's right, yeah. He was in that too, wasn't he?

• 1:57:18Speaker 02

  I think that's the one he did. I don't know if he, he may have done another one or two of them. They may have been trying to Farley spade them.

• 1:57:25Speaker 04

  Farley's Spade and Together.

• 1:57:26Joe Rogan?

  Funny dude, though.

• 1:57:27Speaker 04

  Do you have hopes for Happy Gilmore two?

• 1:57:29Joe Rogan?

  Nah.

• 1:57:30Speaker 04

  Could it possibly be good?

• 1:57:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:57:31Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:57:32Joe Rogan?

  Adam Sandler still makes good stuff.

• 1:57:33Speaker 04

  Comedy?

• 1:57:34Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he does. Those Netflix ones were good.

• 1:57:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, she like.

• 1:57:37Joe Rogan?

  They were funny.

• 1:57:37Speaker 04

  They're pretty good. You like Hubie, Halloween or something?

• 1:57:40Joe Rogan?

  They're funny, man. They're funny.

• 1:57:41Speaker 04

  They're pretty good.

• 1:57:42Joe Rogan?

  If you're, you like Adam Sandler movies. I love Adam Sandler movies. I love silly movies. Like, I love

• 1:57:46Speaker 04

  Me too.

• 1:57:47Joe Rogan?

  The one when he played his own sister. What was that one?

• 1:57:48Speaker 04

  Jack and Jill?

• 1:57:49Joe Rogan?

  Jack and Jill's fucking hilarious. And Al Pacino's in love with her.

• 1:57:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:57:53Joe Rogan?

  And she's a brute. It's, it's fucking funny.

• 1:57:55Speaker 04

  No, Adam Sandler rules. He's a great actor. And I mean, Happy Gilmore was so great, but I almost feel like.

• 1:58:00Speaker 02

  There's no way this one second one's gonna be good.

• 1:58:01Speaker 04

  It's just.

• 1:58:02Joe Rogan?

  They'll figure it out.

• 1:58:02Speaker 04

  I think they're gonna try to do too many throwback moments. This would, what was the movie they, they kinda did that with recently?

• 1:58:09Speaker 02

  Fucking, uh, like this Coming to America part two?

• 1:58:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, like they, there's like, that was terrible. That was actually fucking terrible. And Coming to America, I grew up on. First of all, they made it PG thirteen. The original Coming to America was rated R.

• 1:58:21Speaker 02

  They made it a musical. They put music numbers in it.

• 1:58:23Speaker 04

  It was bad. Um, but I have, I, look, I, I will watch it.

• 1:58:27Speaker 02

  Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice people loved. I didn't like that. Same thing. I thought it was like.

• 1:58:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 1:58:31Speaker 02

  You can't capture that first one.

• 1:58:33Joe Rogan?

  I thought Beetlejuice was pretty good, the new one. I thought it was pretty good. Yeah. I liked it. It wasn't as good as the first one, but it's pretty good. I fucking loved it. The Soul Train? When they got on the Soul Train? It was all dead, like resurrected black people dressed in like nineteen seventies outfits, dancing. Have you seen it?

• 1:58:50Speaker 04

  I saw, I kept on falling asleep. I keep on turning it on and falling asleep twenty minutes into it.

• 1:58:54Joe Rogan?

  Well, it's, it's good, man. It's, it's pretty solid. I mean, it is one of those Tim Burton movies. Just like a fun, weird fucking movie, you know? I loved the first one, man.

• 1:59:03Speaker 02

  I didn't know Tim Burton made the first Peewee's Big Adventure.

• 1:59:06Joe Rogan?

  Did he really?

• 1:59:07Speaker 02

  First Tim Burton movie.

• 1:59:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:59:08Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that makes sense with Large Mars. Forget to tell him Large Mars sent you.

• 1:59:11Speaker 04

  That looks like the girl we brought to the UFC event, Kelly.

• 1:59:15Speaker 04

  Remember?

• 1:59:15Speaker 02

  If they would've called her that, we still would've kept our heads down.

• 1:59:17Speaker 04

  Large, large. She is large, fuck.

• 1:59:19Joe Rogan?

  Bro, Peewee's Playhouse was so fun. Or Peewee's Big Adventure, rather, was so fun.

• 1:59:24Speaker 02

  Peewee's Playhouse was trippy. I didn't even know that. That's how like weird like, Peewee's Playhouse was meant to be like-

• 1:59:29Speaker 05

  One of these bikes was for sale recently.

• 1:59:31Joe Rogan?

  Well- How much did it go for?

• 1:59:33Speaker 05

  Well, guess. I'll let you guess.

• 1:59:35Joe Rogan?

  A hundred thousand dollars.

• 1:59:36Speaker 05

  It went for more than that.

• 1:59:37Joe Rogan?

  Five hundred thousand dollars.

• 1:59:38Speaker 05

  It was a hundred and thirty-five thousand.

• 1:59:40Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 1:59:40Speaker 05

  There's fourteen bikes and it was one of them that was supposed to-

• 1:59:42Speaker 04

  It had no seat on it.

• 1:59:44Joe Rogan?

  It was a fun movie, man.

• 1:59:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:59:46Joe Rogan?

  I went to see that with a girl I was dating in high school and we were like the only people in the movie theater. It was like one of them lucky moments. We were just fucking howling. Howling laughing.

• 1:59:55Speaker 02

  First one was where the whole thing was always to have like nods for adults in it.

• 1:59:59Joe Rogan?

  What year was that?

• 2:00:00Speaker 02

  Kids movie?

• 2:00:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it was to- it wa- it was totally like an anybody's movie. It wasn't just like a kid's movie. It was an anybody movie.

• 2:00:07Speaker 04

  It was a- Peewee's was a little off. I was being a kid, watching it, being like, what's the fucking deal here? Big Top Peewee, all- it was just always a little bit weird and a little bit-

• 2:00:15Speaker 02

  Peewee was- that was his- he tried to do it himself and that's why that did terribly.

• 2:00:18Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 2:00:19Speaker 02

  Cause again, there's jokes that no one gets. I forgot this. I saw it once when it first came out, never saw it again. He's got a make out scene with somebody that just goes on for like five straight. They just never stop.

• 2:00:29Joe Rogan?

  That's funny.

• 2:00:29Speaker 02

  Having to make out and just keeps panning further and further backwards like five- and in the middle of the movie. Five minutes of him just like hardcore making out with a chick. But maybe when I was older, I think I would've gotten it. So, so, cause he had such like, he said a lot of Andy Warhol inspired stuff and reference. There was an episode of Peewee's Big Adventure or Peewee's Playhouse where he said two minutes he just put dog food in a bowl and it was just like ASMR, a close up of a dog just eating the food for like two straight minutes, which I would've weirded me out when I was a kid.

• 2:00:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 2:00:55Speaker 04

  There's a lot of just, it was, whatever it was, it was just a little bit off.

• 2:00:59Joe Rogan?

  He got rolled up in one of the most bullshit cases ever.

• 2:01:03Speaker 04

  Oh, what, he got caught jerking off in the theater?

• 2:01:04Joe Rogan?

  He got caught jerking off in a gay movie theater.

• 2:01:06Speaker 04

  Where you're supposed to jerk off.

• 2:01:07Joe Rogan?

  What are you supposed to do?

• 2:01:09Speaker 02

  That didn't ruin him the way, uh, he thought like that. In fact, I thought it was interesting when he did his first comeback, was that Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie? And uh, he may, he asked him to make his character look like his mugshot. That's why he looks like that.

• 2:01:22Speaker 04

  That's funny.

• 2:01:23Speaker 05

  Said they made him look like Charles Manson, just like a tough.

• 2:01:26Speaker 02

  Did you watch it, Jamie?

• 2:01:27Speaker 05

  No, I saw clips of it. I was really into it.

• 2:01:29Speaker 04

  I mean, didn't it get his show cancelled? Like?

• 2:01:32Speaker 02

  No, the show was already done.

• 2:01:33Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 2:01:34Speaker 02

  Show was already done.

• 2:01:34Speaker 04

  But he was, he was out for a while, then he was in Blow, he was in that.

• 2:01:37Speaker 02

  No, he came back, he had a, he had a career comeback.

• 2:01:39Speaker 04

  Derek Forreal?

• 2:01:39Speaker 02

  But after that what took him down was, cause I thought you were saying he got caught up in the biggest bullshit. He was caught up in that sweep that got Jeffrey Jones.

• 2:01:46Speaker 05

  What's that?

• 2:01:47Speaker 02

  The, the, that's the, that was the principal from uh, Ferris Bueller. That guy got nailed with actual child pornography.

• 2:01:54Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 2:01:55Speaker 02

  And, and he, and Pee Wee Herman was friends with him, so they went and searched Pee Wee's house. And what they found, he's a collector, he's like a crazy collector.

• 2:02:01Speaker 04

  He's got a big couch that can talk?

• 2:02:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. A bunch of naked kids inside of it. No, you understand, it'll fuck them, it eats them. Um, no, he had like erotica from like the seventies.

• 2:02:14Speaker 04

  Oh yeah.

• 2:02:14Speaker 02

  In collections that was like, and everyone was above age, but it just like, it was, it's considered obscene material.

• 2:02:20Speaker 05

  Oh no.

• 2:02:20Speaker 02

  When they went to his house.

• 2:02:21Speaker 05

  Where was he living?

• 2:02:23Speaker 02

  California, I believe. And uh-

• 2:02:26Speaker 05

  Erotica? Obscene erotica?

• 2:02:28Speaker 02

  He got nailed with obscene material charges, but he was lumped in with like pedophilia.

• 2:02:33Speaker 05

  The charge here is, uh, a little worse than that.

• 2:02:36Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 2:02:37Speaker 05

  Pleaded no contest in LA court to charges of hiring a fourteen year old boy to pose for photographs.

• 2:02:42Speaker 02

  To pose for photographs? They didn't leave that out of his documentary, I feel like. Hmm, they didn't put that in the documentary.

• 2:02:48Speaker 04

  Look at Jay defending an actual pedophile.

• 2:02:50Speaker 02

  I'm just saying he was a good guy.

• 2:02:52Joe Rogan?

  You gotta stick to those documentaries.

• 2:02:53Speaker 05

  The charge of possession of-

• 2:02:54Speaker 02

  Oh man.

• 2:02:55Speaker 05

  Child porn was not part of the deal.

• 2:02:57Speaker 02

  Joe, the first time we did your podcast, when you showed us all of your cool toys in your LA studio? I would've sucked your dick to do one of those things.

• 2:03:03Speaker 04

  Oh yeah.

• 2:03:03Joe Rogan?

  Which toys?

• 2:03:04Speaker 04

  Uh, like your, your uh, compound bow?

• 2:03:07Speaker 02

  I've told, I've told this story so many times on podcasts, this is the first time we came here. And it's all, it ends so great. Cause uh, me, Dave and Louis, all came in uh, in LA, and you took us first and you go, check this out. And you grabbed the compound bow, and you had the laser sight, and you could shoot it all the way across the full UFC gym you had.

• 2:03:26Speaker 04

  It looked so cool. We were all like, just warming our hands up, like, we can't wait till we can do this.

• 2:03:30Speaker 02

  Then you put the bow down, as I was reaching for it, I thought. And then, you went over, you go, there's the pool table, you broke a rack and sunk a few. Like, cool. Then you open the door and you're like, here's where I freeze myself, here's where I thaw myself out. We're like, wow. And then you go, and here's my prize possession. And you had the, they do it for golf and stuff, took the Kevlar screen, hunting.

• 2:03:52Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:03:52Speaker 02

  And you had the flat tip. But I go, he probably wants to do this one because it's the flat tips. No one's gonna get hurt. And then you fucking wailed to elk? And then you go, let's go podcast, boys. He just showed us all the toys and was like, don't touch them.

• 2:04:05Joe Rogan?

  The problem with those toys is I can't teach you that quickly to use.

• 2:04:08Speaker 02

  I understand.

• 2:04:09Speaker 04

  We're gonna embarrass ourselves.

• 2:04:10Speaker 02

  We would have embarrassed ourselves big, but then we always say like, how much Dave Smith came on, like, talks with you after that individually? Me and, we wrote, me and Louis like, why doesn't Joe embrace us the way he embraces Dave? And then someone brought up the pic, the first picture we ever took here? It's so funny. It's the werewolf. I am standing behind the werewolf like I'm fucking it.

• 2:04:31Speaker 04

  I'm getting sucked off.

• 2:04:32Speaker 02

  Louis is, yeah, acting like he's getting sucked off by the bear. And Dave is just leaning and touching it going.

• 2:04:38Speaker 02

  And I'm like, oh, you know what?

• 2:04:39Speaker 04

  Dave had respect for you, you belong.

• 2:04:42Speaker 02

  We're like, oh, that explains.

• 2:04:47Joe Rogan?

  That's hilarious.

• 2:04:48Speaker 04

  The difference between us and Dave.

• 2:04:50Speaker 02

  I wonder why Dave keeps going back.

• 2:04:53Joe Rogan?

  Dave has his hand on the head gently.

• 2:04:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:04:55Speaker 02

  Is Dave in the Rogan sphere? We're trying to figure out how we get in the Rogan sphere.

• 2:04:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:04:58Speaker 02

  My ogre sphere is worse.

• 2:04:59Speaker 04

  We look, first of all, Shane doesn't, Shane doesn't need the Rogan sphere anymore. Let's just move Shane out. Move Big Jay out of that position.

• 2:05:05Speaker 02

  Doesn't require the Rogan sphere at all.

• 2:05:07Speaker 04

  Ari's moving to fucking Thailand or something. He's gone. I'm ready. I'm a wacky guy. I'll shave half my head.

• 2:05:12Joe Rogan?

  Ari's gonna do a stint over there and bail.

• 2:05:15Speaker 02

  Agreed.

• 2:05:15Joe Rogan?

  I'm gonna talk to him. I'm calling him up every day. Fuck that place. I'm gonna call him up, plant it in his head. I think we got Diaz coming here.

• 2:05:22Speaker 04

  Oh, it's Austin?

• 2:05:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:23Speaker 04

  That's great.

• 2:05:24Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he's, we talked about it this weekend. I saw him in Jersey for the fights.

• 2:05:28Speaker 02

  So he's back in the sphere.

• 2:05:30Speaker 04

  Fuck.

• 2:05:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Come on, bro. There's plenty of room for you guys. You're in the sphere right now. You're on the show.

• 2:05:35Speaker 02

  Every time the Rogan sphere gets talked about, we never get thing. When Cat Williams said six unfunny comics.

• 2:05:41Speaker 04

  We knew, we knew it wasn't us.

• 2:05:43Speaker 02

  I would have been happy to be one of the six unfunny comics.

• 2:05:45Joe Rogan?

  Was it Cat probably has a point. But when I was trying, he thought I wouldn't have him on. I'm like, bro, I love you.

• 2:05:53Speaker 02

  He's so funny.

• 2:05:53Joe Rogan?

  I couldn't wait to have him on right away. I'm like, I've reached out to him right away. I go, that's not true. I just haven't reached out to you because I didn't know if you wanted to do it.

• 2:06:00Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:06:01Joe Rogan?

  Like, I didn't know he wanted to do it. If he want, if I thought he wanted to do it, I would have had him on a long time ago.

• 2:06:05Speaker 02

  He's an interesting story.

• 2:06:06Speaker 04

  He might be one of my favorite, like, stand-ups to watch a special of. Cause I have a hard time, like, laughing at, like, on TV specials.

• 2:06:12Joe Rogan?

  Pimp Chronicles?

• 2:06:12Speaker 04

  Dude, he's fucking so funny, dude.

• 2:06:14Joe Rogan?

  Bro.

• 2:06:15Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna lie. I need subtitles for it, but I, I didn't even know what he's saying. But I know Cat Williams is very, very funny.

• 2:06:21Joe Rogan?

  Pimp Chronicles is a masterpiece. It's a masterpiece. He's so good. Why can't me? There's something about him when he's cooking too, when he's cooking, when he's like really on fire, is different than everybody else. He's sweating and, and you know, his, his fucking hair's throwing back and just the tone of his voice and the way he repeats punchlines. It's like, that guy gets cooking, man. He gets cooking and you're like, you watch the crowd, they're just falling out of their chairs.

• 2:06:47Speaker 04

  He does really long sets too, right? Just like an hour and a half?

• 2:06:49Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:06:50Joe Rogan?

  He's a beast. He's a beast. He's a wild boy.

• 2:06:53Speaker 02

  At least.

• 2:06:53Joe Rogan?

  He knows how to drive too. Put him on the driving simulator, he fucking killed it.

• 2:06:58Speaker 02

  Oh, I always see him on World-

• 2:06:59Joe Rogan?

  Like he's been to a track.

• 2:07:00Speaker 02

  On World Star Hip Hop, he beats, like, pro athletes in races and shit all the time.

• 2:07:04Joe Rogan?

  I believe it.

• 2:07:04Speaker 02

  It's very weird.

• 2:07:05Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:07:06Speaker 02

  And he talks about, and he still, what's funny is he also dresses though like the old black guy who comes to play basketball, so it looks like he's not gonna be that good. And then he's like, fast as shit.

• 2:07:13Speaker 04

  Remember we got beat up by a teenager? Do you remember that? That's the funniest thing in the world when he goes-

• 2:07:17Joe Rogan?

  Watch this. This is him in our racing simulator. By the way, he's doing it one hand. Give me some volume.

• 2:07:25Joe Rogan?

  Get in there. Get in there. There you are. There he is.

• 2:07:30Speaker 04

  That's when you have to fight that competition off that corn.

• 2:07:36Speaker 04

  How accurate is this simulator?

• 2:07:38Joe Rogan?

  Pretty fucking good. It's got gravity. It, it turns you side to side. It has crazy noises. It feels like you're really driving.

• 2:07:50Speaker 02

  How do we do it like this? Cause we do this in real life. If he was driving Uber, he'd be making a personal phone call right now.

• 2:08:04Joe Rogan?

  The roads, the highways and the byways of America that allow you to do this. So he can drive.

• 2:08:10Speaker 02

  He looks terrified.

• 2:08:12Joe Rogan?

  No, he looks like he's on it, man. Steering wheel will break your wrist if you're holding it too. Yeah, it's hard. It's not a game. No, it's the steering wheel reacts as if your tires would react on at high speeds.

• 2:08:22Speaker 02

  Put Louis in it.

• 2:08:23Joe Rogan?

  It's not a racetrack. You guys ever do a racetrack? You ever drive in a racetrack?

• 2:08:26Speaker 04

  No. I can't, I can't drive 35 miles an hour on a regular road.

• 2:08:29Speaker 02

  I do believe in full, I do believe in full trip. When I did Burt's tour, one of the things we performed at a racetrack and they had the pace car. It was like a convertible and they took us all for like a couple of loops, right? Like individually, one of them, they wanted us to film it. And mine was so boring because I was like smiling. It was exhilarating the whole time, but they were like, you know, Burt's giving them and people are going like, no, no, no, no, no. Like the corners are coming and they were like, you didn't freak out at all. I go, I just had blind trust. They're not going to kill us. Like, right? Like, are they going to put us in real? Like, are we going to start cartwheeling down the fucking road here? I assume they're not going to do anything. They don't know how to do perfectly.

• 2:09:05Speaker 04

  This is why Burt's famous because Burt's fun and he reacts big and you just sat there like.

• 2:09:09Speaker 02

  I was just like, this was neat.

• 2:09:12Speaker 04

  Nobody wants to watch that.

• 2:09:12Speaker 02

  I know. I should have overreacted.

• 2:09:13Speaker 04

  You want to watch you screaming and fucking yelling and crying about your daughter.

• 2:09:18Joe Rogan?

  Just be your girl.

• 2:09:19Speaker 02

  My daughter.

• 2:09:20Joe Rogan?

  Don't worry about what people want.

• 2:09:23Speaker 02

  I can't scream at that. I gave you, remember when the first time you guys did my nails on the show, I freaked out about touching my cuticles.

• 2:09:30Speaker 04

  And now we get them done. Now we get them done. No, he gets his nails painted by an Asian lady every week.

• 2:09:34Speaker 02

  Well, now you have to once it's get done. Every other week, Louis, I'm not a diva.

• 2:09:38Joe Rogan?

  Is that a thing you think you feel connected to? Like you have to keep doing that now?

• 2:09:41Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:09:41Joe Rogan?

  Burt Kreischer, take your shirt off thing?

• 2:09:43Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, no, not like that. No, it's more like connected to.

• 2:09:46Speaker 04

  Somehow gayer.

• 2:09:47Speaker 02

  No, it's a gayer thing. No, it's connected to, uh, I bit my nails forever. Got my teeth fixed. Can't bite my nails anymore. They grew in raggedy. I tried to take care of it myself and was terrible at it. They got my nails on the show one time.

• 2:09:59Speaker 04

  As a bit, because he, if you. If you just did this to Jay, look, if you show him you're pulling your cuticle back, he'll freak out. For some reason, it's a weird thing. So we had an Asian lady come in and we warned her, we were like, listen, the type of show, the jokes we're gonna make. She was so cool. This like little, she barely spoke any English, but she was such a fun time. And she did his nails on the show and he screamed like a girl the whole time.

• 2:10:20Speaker 02

  I didn't scream, it was more like that, like pull away, like I was, I did not enjoy it.

• 2:10:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then it became a thing where every week after that, he came in with a new color nails.

• 2:10:29Speaker 02

  Every other week, but it's the, uh, he keeps saying every week, I'm not a gay man.

• 2:10:36Speaker 02

  No, but once they were done, then yeah, once you can't really undo it, I don't know what to do now. I can't take care of him that good myself. I can't make him look like that.

• 2:10:43Joe Rogan?

  Just go get it done. Who gives a fuck?

• 2:10:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10:45Joe Rogan?

  If that's what you like. Yeah. Everybody's got their own quirks, Louis. Leave him alone.

• 2:10:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, Louis, you chose to have nipple rings to connect.

• 2:10:52Speaker 04

  I have one, or had one nipple ring.

• 2:10:54Speaker 02

  I can't believe you actually had one, I was kidding.

• 2:10:56Joe Rogan?

  Did they connect like Xerxes?

• 2:10:57Speaker 04

  No, no, I had a nipple ring, I had a lip ring.

• 2:11:00Speaker 02

  I like, by the way, isn't the funniest thing, you had all those things when you're, like now.

• 2:11:04Speaker 04

  My body sucked?

• 2:11:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, you never had a nipple ring, you never had a nipple ring with pecs?

• 2:11:08Speaker 04

  The end of your tit?

• 2:11:11Speaker 02

  It was so you looked sexy in tank tops?

• 2:11:13Speaker 04

  I was so bad, dude. Just a fat kid with a nipple ring.

• 2:11:15Joe Rogan?

  Why'd you get it done?

• 2:11:16Speaker 04

  I don't know, I just wanted, I like tattoos and piercings and shit. I was young.

• 2:11:19Speaker 02

  I was surprised though, I kept, uh, from being fat my whole life also, I kept my tattoos always to arms. For the most part, I never did ones that I would have to take my shirt off for people to see.

• 2:11:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, I wouldn't do a stomach tattoo.

• 2:11:31Speaker 02

  No, but you had like here.

• 2:11:32Speaker 04

  I have my chest tattoo. It says on my own. I got it when my mom died.

• 2:11:36Joe Rogan?

  It says on my own?

• 2:11:37Speaker 04

  On my own.

• 2:11:37Speaker 02

  I know, isn't that ironic for a guy who owns a company and is, has a thousand friends and collaborates with people and everything he does? He's on his own.

• 2:11:44Speaker 04

  Well, he says on this side, uh, coattail rider, so.

• 2:11:47Joe Rogan?

  You figured out early on though, that the best way to not get pulled off of shit is to have your own network though.

• 2:11:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:11:53Joe Rogan?

  Like Kumia did that, you guys did that.

• 2:11:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:11:56Joe Rogan?

  That's such a

• 2:11:56Speaker 04

  And what's funny is for, we were going like, for a few years it would almost seem like pointless because Patreon got so big. Then with censorship with YouTube and all these other platforms, now there's never been a better time for it. Like, we have an uncensored version of the show, an ad-free version of the show. We can say anything we want.

• 2:12:11Speaker 02

  YouTube hunts us every time we get close to that plaque.

• 2:12:13Speaker 04

  We've had our four YouTube channels taken down.

• 2:12:16Speaker 02

  In the ninety, in the ninety-something thousands of subscribers because

• 2:12:20Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 2:12:20Speaker 02

  They just start reviewing it then, they're like, "No, no way."

• 2:12:23Joe Rogan?

  What is, uh, the kind, what gets pulled? What's it about?

• 2:12:26Speaker 04

  Most of the time it's actually our fucking dumb producers leaving in like nudity and shit like that. Um, YouTube relaxes moderation rules, it's allowing more controversial content.

• 2:12:35Speaker 05

  It's like just today, though.

• 2:12:36Speaker 04

  Oh, this is today?

• 2:12:37Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Freedom of expression value may outweigh harm risk.

• 2:12:41Speaker 04

  That's great. I love that.

• 2:12:43Joe Rogan?

  Wow, good for YouTube, fuck yeah.

• 2:12:44Speaker 04

  It is changing a little bit, which is good.

• 2:12:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, well, the pendulum swings, right?

• 2:12:48Speaker 02

  Corey Hopkins podcast, I was listening to the other day and I was like, "How is this?"

• 2:12:52Joe Rogan?

  Corey's wild.

• 2:12:53Speaker 02

  He's so funny.

• 2:12:54Speaker 04

  All the words, all the words you're not allowed to say, like, so we bleep out like all the no-no words, right?

• 2:12:59Joe Rogan?

  This includes discussions of elections, ideologies, movements, race, gender, sexuality, abortion, immigration, and censorship. Beautiful.

• 2:13:06Speaker 04

  We're back.

• 2:13:08Joe Rogan?

  Ooh. Not remove anything considered to be in the public interest.

• 2:13:12Speaker 02

  Oh, dude.

• 2:13:12Joe Rogan?

  Interesting.

• 2:13:13Speaker 02

  Oh, abortion too. So we could do that abortion now on the air. Remember that live abortion? We've been putting that bit off for years.

• 2:13:19Speaker 04

  That'll be a great bit.

• 2:13:20Speaker 02

  Early term.

• 2:13:22Joe Rogan?

  Everything that you can discuss is in the public interest, though. That's, you know, I'm glad they changed it to that. That's a great way of defining it.

• 2:13:29Speaker 04

  Like, like jokes, like specifically, like I got, I got my, um, on Instagram right now, they, I can't, um, go live or advertise on Instagram for a year because I was talking about a bit that I did on my first special on Dan Soder's podcast, um, about how I would get free cocaine in Mexico. I went up to the beach and like I would get samples of cocaine. I told the story about actually doing it and they flagged it and said we were promoting, like, uh, the sales of drugs and I'm fucking fucked for a year now.

• 2:14:01Joe Rogan?

  Jesus Christ.

• 2:14:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like literally a joke. I'm just

• 2:14:03Speaker 02

  You did put up the number of the Dior, though.

• 2:14:06Joe Rogan?

  You put up with dealer's number?

• 2:14:07Speaker 04

  No, no, but that's what I did. I would, I would go up and down the beach and I'd get a free sample of cocaine. I'd go to the next guy, get another free sample of cocaine, go to the next guy and I just did that all night until they caught on.

• 2:14:16Speaker 02

  You were the leader of the cartel.

• 2:14:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they can get you for Rico charges now.

• 2:14:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was, uh, the Cabo Comedy Festival, the shittiest comedy festival ever like a decade ago.

• 2:14:26Speaker 02

  Cabo Comedy Festival?

• 2:14:28Speaker 04

  Then at the end of the night, I fucked like a seventy year old woman. She was gross. Louis was still hotter than the girl we brought to the UFC in Philly.

• 2:14:35Speaker 02

  Was she?

• 2:14:37Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:14:38Speaker 02

  You've hooked up with a couple of hilarious ones.

• 2:14:40Speaker 04

  Old ladies?

• 2:14:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, just like, oh shit. I think on Shiprocked one year, you hooked up with a fucking doozy.

• 2:14:45Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, she had like a really thick smoker's voice.

• 2:14:49Speaker 04

  Say, come to my cabin.

• 2:14:51Speaker 02

  You're a little bit locked in on a cruise, especially a heavy metal cruise.

• 2:14:54Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, there's no.

• 2:14:55Speaker 02

  From the nineties.

• 2:14:55Speaker 04

  There's no hot chicks on those cruises. Yeah, we did a thing called Shiprocked.

• 2:14:59Speaker 02

  Done it a bunch.

• 2:15:00Joe Rogan?

  Dude, I was watching, uh, this documentary today on the Black Sea where all those cargo ships wind up sinking. Have you ever seen ships going across the Black Sea? It's apparently like the most dangerous part of the ocean to cross.

• 2:15:12Speaker 02

  For Louis, where's the Black Sea?

• 2:15:15Speaker 02

  Cause I see his eyes are crossing.

• 2:15:17Joe Rogan?

  I think it's, uh, across the top of the UK. I'm not exactly sure. But I watched this documentary about watching these fucking cargo ships get nailed by these monster waves and I'm like, imagine being on a fucking cruise ship and some shit like that.

• 2:15:31Speaker 04

  Oh my God, it's terrifying dude.

• 2:15:33Joe Rogan?

  Wave goes sideways. So where's it? That's the Black Sea? So where's that at? Turkey?

• 2:15:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, between Turkey.

• 2:15:40Joe Rogan?

  See if you can find some videos of cargo ships getting fucked up on the Black Sea. It's crazy.

• 2:15:45Speaker 04

  It's scary. The ocean's scary in general.

• 2:15:46Joe Rogan?

  Terrifying.

• 2:15:47Speaker 04

  The ocean is, I've been surfing before and I'm just, I'm just not good at it. Like you feel the power of the fucking ocean. It's.

• 2:15:53Speaker 02

  Well, how about just the, I, I've done those cruise ships enough to be like, it's just, if you go off that boat, you're as good as dead.

• 2:15:59Speaker 04

  They won't stop.

• 2:16:00Joe Rogan?

  Look at this. It snapped the cargo ship in two. The wave was so big, it snapped this fucking ship in half.

• 2:16:07Speaker 02

  Fuck that.

• 2:16:08Joe Rogan?

  And this is nothing compared to some of the waves I've seen. Some of the waves are fucking bananas.

• 2:16:12Speaker 04

  Apparently if you fall off a cruise ship, they, they can't stop the ship.

• 2:16:16Joe Rogan?

  Look at this shit.

• 2:16:17Speaker 04

  They can't.

• 2:16:17Joe Rogan?

  Look at this shit. Look at this shit.

• 2:16:21Joe Rogan?

  Fuck that. If you fall off a cruise ship, they can't turn around and get you?

• 2:16:25Speaker 02

  You guys more death by fire a year or by sea?

• 2:16:28Speaker 04

  No, they have to like call the, the, uh, like the Coast Guard or whatever to come and find you, but you're dead.

• 2:16:33Speaker 02

  They give you coordinates that mean nothing.

• 2:16:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, they throw some fucking donuts out to you and you're, you know, that's it. There's no-

• 2:16:39Joe Rogan?

  You have to find the donuts in the ocean. The ocean's fucking flopping around.

• 2:16:42Speaker 04

  It's insane, dude.

• 2:16:43Speaker 02

  The worst part of that for, for me is that if I fell off, I'm holding on to a donut and hearing the sounds of Tesla slowly slink away.

• 2:16:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, they're doing acoustic signs? Shit! Take pictures, you bitch!

• 2:16:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:16:58Joe Rogan?

  There's a, there's a cargo ship that's on fire right now in, uh, I forget which ocean, but it's filled with EVs. And, uh, apparently one of them caught fire in the middle of the ocean.

• 2:17:09Speaker 02

  That's why you can't put fucking electric cigarettes in your fucking suitcase. Same thing.

• 2:17:14Speaker 04

  I pay attention to none of those rules.

• 2:17:15Joe Rogan?

  Remember when those Samsung phones were lighting people's cars on fire? Indian Coast Guard battles massive fire and container ship listed off. I don't know. I don't think this is the one.

• 2:17:23Speaker 04

  It's an Indian?

• 2:17:24Joe Rogan?

  There's another one, Jamie, that is, uh, that's, uh, UVs. It's all UV cars.

• 2:17:29Speaker 02

  Isn't there theoretically people in some of those cargo things?

• 2:17:32Joe Rogan?

  Cargo ship carrying UVs on fire. Or EVs, sorry, EVs, not UV, what, sorry.

• 2:17:38Speaker 02

  Is that just the wire or is that how they get people over sometimes? There's people sometimes in those cargo things?

• 2:17:42Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. No, that's real. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. So that's filled with electric cars. I wonder whose cars they are. It just says EVs. It doesn't say, if it was Teslas, it would say cargo ship filled with Teslas. They would throw Elon under the bus for sure.

• 2:17:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm not sold on the electric car.

• 2:18:00Joe Rogan?

  They're great when they work. It's just like, if you have them plugged into your house, it's the shit. You never go to the gas station. You just plug it in when you go to sleep at night. It's easy.

• 2:18:10Speaker 02

  I think you need your car to be more reliable than your phone.

• 2:18:13Joe Rogan?

  Well, they're really reliable. The thing is about driving them like Teslas, they never fuck up. I've had threes, three of them. They, I've never had a problem.

• 2:18:19Speaker 02

  Really?

• 2:18:20Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, nothing. I had one problem with like a windshield wiper motor. It was simple.

• 2:18:23Speaker 02

  Do you get rid of them because it's just it's time?

• 2:18:25Joe Rogan?

  It's a lease. I got a lease.

• 2:18:26Speaker 02

  You get a new one, yeah. Okay, so it's not like, you're not like, shit, this thing's starting to peter out?

• 2:18:30Joe Rogan?

  No, well, they make them better every three years.

• 2:18:32Speaker 02

  When do they peter out? What's the death of a Tesla?

• 2:18:35Joe Rogan?

  You can get them, you know, that are many years old. It's just their batteries degrade slightly over time. So like if it first comes from the factory with three hundred and forty miles, you know, after like five, six, seven, eight years, it's probably got two hundred and eighty miles or something like that, you know?

• 2:18:51Speaker 02

  So that's all, it's just efficiency kinda goes down?

• 2:18:53Joe Rogan?

  But, but for driving around town, like if you're just taking it into commute, it's easy. You just plug it in when you go to bed at night. You don't ever have to go to the gas station again. Silent, they move faster than anything you've ever driven.

• 2:19:03Speaker 02

  I mean, how, how quickly do you get a return on investment? Cause the amount of money you save in gas has to be like...

• 2:19:07Joe Rogan?

  I don't know about that.

• 2:19:08Speaker 02

  I'm wondering about the miles things, that's what I'm saying. I remember like when I was a kid, and you remember this too, like they would say, oh, like Hondas are the best because you can get two hundred some thousand miles, about three hundred thousand miles. I don't think that even exists anymore that a car is supposed to.

• 2:19:20Joe Rogan?

  Toyotas. You buy, yeah, you buy a Tacoma, those motherfuckers will last forever.

• 2:19:25Speaker 04

  The reason I got, the reason I got the Acura was because...

• 2:19:27Joe Rogan?

  Last forever.

• 2:19:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, my, uh, my buddy, really Nick Rochefort, shout out Nick Rochefort, great comic, and he, uh, he was like, dude, trust me, he was like, get an Acura. He was like, it'll last two hundred and fifty thousand miles. I'll give it to my kid when he graduates high school, like...

• 2:19:41Joe Rogan?

  My friend Matt Farah had a Lexus with a million miles on it.

• 2:19:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was the other option too. He said, get a Lexus or an Acura. Those are the two that have the, the greatest resale value and also just the shelf life of the car.

• 2:19:51Speaker 02

  I've got a Ram and a Jeep, America.

• 2:19:53Joe Rogan?

  America, fuck yeah.

• 2:19:56Speaker 02

  I mean, other Rams are like this when we, and we laugh at Toyota Tacomas. Get that little stupid rice burner out of here.

• 2:20:01Joe Rogan?

  I've had a couple of those Lexus SUVs, the five seventies, Alex, fucking great car. Great, comfortable as shit, big. It's like, it's so smooth, never fucks up, never, they never have problems.

• 2:20:12Speaker 04

  Don't buy an Audi, I'll tell you that much.

• 2:20:14Joe Rogan?

  Why?

• 2:20:14Speaker 04

  I just totaled my Audi and it was...

• 2:20:16Speaker 02

  It wasn't the Audi's fault?

• 2:20:17Speaker 04

  It was a fender bender. It was literally a fender bender.

• 2:20:20Speaker 02

  That fender was going, dude, that fender was softened up. All the other fender benders.

• 2:20:24Speaker 04

  I was like, I was like, for sure, this is just an easy repair. They came there like, yeah, this is totaled. Each headlight is like five thousand dollars. It's insane.

• 2:20:31Joe Rogan?

  How much is your car worth?

• 2:20:32Speaker 04

  The car was, I bought it at seventy thousand when it was new and then.

• 2:20:36Joe Rogan?

  How long ago was this?

• 2:20:37Speaker 04

  I had it for four years and then it depreciated, it depreciated in value to like twenty five thousand dollars. And the damage was like twenty two thousand dollars.

• 2:20:45Joe Rogan?

  Wow.

• 2:20:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:20:46Speaker 02

  Well, most of that was to take off the airbrushing you put on the side, you poor, dumbass.

• 2:20:50Joe Rogan?

  That's fucked.

• 2:20:52Speaker 04

  It was crazy. I was like, I was so bummed.

• 2:20:54Joe Rogan?

  You know what's a really great value if you want to get a car? Get like a Mercedes S-Class from like five, six years ago.

• 2:21:01Speaker 02

  I'm gonna make a call.

• 2:21:02Joe Rogan?

  Amazing.

• 2:21:03Speaker 02

  Honey, Mercedes S-Class, you ordered for me.

• 2:21:06Joe Rogan?

  No, the old ones.

• 2:21:07Speaker 02

  An old car?

• 2:21:08Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, get them from, you can get them from like ten years ago and they're fucking awesome, but they're like super cheap. But they're so well engineered and they'll never break. But for like less than like an Accord, a brand new Accord, you can get a, an S-Class from a while ago.

• 2:21:23Speaker 02

  Well, I thought about that. Is it possible to get like an old, is there such thing as a brand new?

• 2:21:28Speaker 04

  Old car?

• 2:21:29Speaker 02

  Old engine?

• 2:21:30Joe Rogan?

  What do you mean, like what?

• 2:21:31Speaker 04

  So could you buy a brand new twenty nineteen car? Like what do they do with that one?

• 2:21:35Speaker 02

  Twenty nineteen is not even, I'm talking about like, can you get like a nineteen ninety seven Mustang? And then somehow get a new, that kind of motor in it.

• 2:21:43Joe Rogan?

  Oh, one hundred percent.

• 2:21:44Speaker 02

  Like no computer, none of that shit in it, just like the one you could fix yourself?

• 2:21:49Joe Rogan?

  You definitely can.

• 2:21:49Speaker 02

  Brand new?

• 2:21:50Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there's companies that'll do that for you, for sure. They'll make a car with a carburetor, the whole deal. Most of them don't though. Most of them use a crate engine. So that what they'll do is like to take an old car, like a sixty eight Mustang. And they put a Coyote five point oh in it, like a modern Ford eight cylinder Coyote engine in it.

• 2:22:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, the new ones.

• 2:22:09Joe Rogan?

  So it has like an ECU, it has like what was like this little motherboard, like you program it, you know, and it has electronic fuel injection.

• 2:22:16Speaker 02

  I used to have a Grand Cherokee that when I got out of the car, sometimes to start it, I had to, I learned I had to get a hammer. And hit a certain part of the engine and then it would start. I think it was the starter possibly, if you had to crank it. And it did start.

• 2:22:31Joe Rogan?

  Why don't you just get a new starter? Why are you hitting it with a hammer?

• 2:22:34Speaker 02

  Broke. This is way back, way back in the day too. So I got the car, I got the car from a, it was one of those like. Uh, what do you call it, the auctions?

• 2:22:43Joe Rogan?

  Mm.

• 2:22:44Speaker 02

  You know, they repo'd cars and shit like that. So it was a piece of shit. But I would, uh, clanking getting to start, there's just not, when I, when you open up, you can have a car for a year at this point, a brand new car and open it up and it looks brand new because it's not, it's barely engine parts.

• 2:22:57Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:22:57Speaker 02

  It's mostly computers, like a big plastic covering over a computer essentially.

• 2:23:01Joe Rogan?

  Right, you can't like get in there and work on it.

• 2:23:03Speaker 02

  When you say, when you bring it in and go, hey, it's having a problem, they go, did the light go, I, this happened to me last, the light went away. So the light's not on anymore, but it was there. They could plug it in and find that there was a light that came on at some point, but they can't do anything to it if it's not hap- you know what I mean? There's not a thing where it's like, there's this clicking, it's probably a belt. Those days are over, I think.

• 2:23:22Joe Rogan?

  Oh, really?

• 2:23:23Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 2:23:24Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:23:25Speaker 02

  See, they seem confused by.

• 2:23:27Joe Rogan?

  You go into bad mechanics, maybe.

• 2:23:29Speaker 02

  It's the dealership.

• 2:23:30Joe Rogan?

  Uh, okay. So they probably have everything connected to a computer program. And the computer program talks to the, to the tr- the computers in the car.

• 2:23:38Speaker 02

  I think that's what you have to do, everything now, it's no more like a, we knew our, my mom, Chuck and Larry, no, not Chuck and Larry, that's the gay guys that got married. Chuck and Al. Where like, my mom's too like, uh, now I think about it too, she probably fucked Chuck or Al. My mom really.

• 2:23:53Speaker 04

  Part of both of them, your mom?

• 2:23:54Speaker 02

  My mom really threw the puss around to make sure we had what we needed when we were younger. Not like in a prostitution way.

• 2:23:59Joe Rogan?

  Good lady.

• 2:24:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a good lady. But Chuck and Al was always our car mechanics, like for our car, just.

• 2:24:05Joe Rogan?

  You know, uh.

• 2:24:06Speaker 02

  Always took them, they can't even be in business anymore with cars now.

• 2:24:09Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a lot of people that still have old cars, they wanna get them fixed up. There's a lot of people that really just like driving analog old cars, you know?

• 2:24:16Speaker 02

  But not enough for the amount of like, auto shops there are.

• 2:24:18Speaker 04

  But don't you hate when it's like a really famous guy, who was it, who was the famous guy who drives like an old pickup truck? I wanna say.

• 2:24:23Joe Rogan?

  Tucker Carlson does.

• 2:24:24Speaker 04

  Chris- uh, Christian Bale?

• 2:24:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he drives an old Tacoma.

• 2:24:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, like an old Ford or, yeah.

• 2:24:30Joe Rogan?

  It's a Toyota, yeah.

• 2:24:31Speaker 02

  I think Jimmy Butler, the athlete does that.

• 2:24:33Speaker 04

  But I just feel like he's doing it to be like, cool. It's like, bro, you fucking, you don't need to drive an old ass truck.

• 2:24:38Speaker 02

  I'll tell you, Post Malone showed up to a Shane show in a fucking muddy, shitty, big tires truck, and I believed him.

• 2:24:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:45Speaker 02

  Does that make sense? When he got out of it, I was like.

• 2:24:46Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:47Speaker 02

  This is his thing.

• 2:24:47Joe Rogan?

  He's.

• 2:24:48Speaker 04

  But he's also got a Lamborghini and a fucking, he's probably got a whole, you know.

• 2:24:51Speaker 02

  Most of his country friends are his black rap friends.

• 2:24:54Joe Rogan?

  He's got one of those Raptors with six wheels.

• 2:24:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:24:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that's his Christian Bale's same Toyota Tacoma since two thousand and three. Yeah.

• 2:25:02Speaker 04

  It just bugs me for some reason.

• 2:25:03Joe Rogan?

  They're bulletproof.

• 2:25:04Speaker 02

  Keeps it clean.

• 2:25:04Joe Rogan?

  Thing. Yeah, it's clean. It's not raggedy, but those things last forever, man. They really last forever. It's like, if you wanted a car that's gonna last forever that you can buy right now, get a Toyota Tacoma. They're fucking bulletproof. They're so good.

• 2:25:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, they, they just re-release one of these old timey looking trucks and it's like, it's like vintage. Look, I think that's gonna be another thing that starts happening. It's like vintage looking cars that are brand new.

• 2:25:24Joe Rogan?

  Toyota did?

• 2:25:25Speaker 04

  I don't know if it's Toyota or another, there's a, it's a pickup truck that's coming out that looks like an old pickup truck, but it's brand new.

• 2:25:31Speaker 02

  You'll take a jerk off though, if you bought the novelty car of the time. Anyone is still rocking a fucking, one of those like Union Jack, little like Mini Coopers or something.

• 2:25:40Joe Rogan?

  Oh, that's crazy.

• 2:25:41Speaker 02

  A Fiat, you'll take an asshole. Do you remember the PT Cruiser in the early two thousands, late nineties where they were like, hey, everyone likes that ZZ Top car. Let's make a very cheap version of that.

• 2:25:50Speaker 04

  My mom had a Dodge Neon. That was maybe the shittiest car that's ever been mass produced.

• 2:25:54Speaker 02

  I had a Dodge Neon. You had to, you had to at some point. It was.

• 2:25:56Speaker 04

  It was crazy.

• 2:25:56Speaker 02

  Fourteen bucks.

• 2:25:57Speaker 04

  Dude, it was, that was, I think it was ten thousand dollars, a hundred dollars a month, no money down. Like this was like the cheapest car ever.

• 2:26:03Speaker 02

  It was such a piece of shit. I think two companies ended up making it.

• 2:26:06Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 2:26:06Speaker 02

  I think it switched at one point from like Dodge to something, yeah.

• 2:26:09Joe Rogan?

  Dodge Neon was.

• 2:26:11Speaker 02

  It's so weird. Yeah.

• 2:26:12Joe Rogan?

  Yugo's?

• 2:26:13Speaker 02

  Or a Datsun.

• 2:26:14Joe Rogan?

  Was it, was Yugo from Yugoslavia? Is that who made it? Is that why it's called the Yugo? It was a garbage little car.

• 2:26:20Speaker 02

  It's amazing how many cars I've been in that are now like defunct. They don't even make them with Mercury's, Sables and shit like that. But I have no trust or belief in a brand new, like car that comes out.

• 2:26:31Speaker 04

  Well, Saturn doesn't, Saturn doesn't exist anymore. Saturn was like a brand that everybody had back in the nineties.

• 2:26:36Speaker 02

  I trust Hyundai now. Do not trust Kia. Hasn't been long enough for some reason. I don't know why that one's.

• 2:26:41Joe Rogan?

  Those Genesis.

• 2:26:42Speaker 02

  Genesis and I see that's.

• 2:26:43Joe Rogan?

  That's Hyundai. That's Hyundai's Lexus version. You know, their high end luxury version. It's fucking really good, man.

• 2:26:48Speaker 02

  Oh, cause Lexus is Toyota.

• 2:26:49Joe Rogan?

  Yugoslavian. Yeah. Yugo's Yugoslavian. That was a garbage little car.

• 2:26:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I knew that from delivering auto parts.

• 2:26:55Joe Rogan?

  That car was like five dollars. Costs more for gas than the car.

• 2:26:59Speaker 02

  What did you take your driver's test in?

• 2:27:01Joe Rogan?

  Oh, man, I wish I could remember. I think I took it in my mom's Barracuda. My mom had a 1970 Barracuda when I was a kid.

• 2:27:08Speaker 02

  I think Humm's.

• 2:27:09Joe Rogan?

  Oh, it was fun.

• 2:27:10Speaker 02

  I was in a stick shift Chevette. My mom's white stick shift Chevette.

• 2:27:13Joe Rogan?

  You had to learn how to drive. That's good, though, to learn how to drive and do a driver's test on a stick. Like, you really know how to drive if you're a kid.

• 2:27:19Speaker 02

  It is one of those feelings, though, where you're like, uh, even my daughter, I'm like, it's a good skill to have driving stick. And then she'll never be in a world where it will ever be necessary.

• 2:27:28Joe Rogan?

  Most likely. It was fun, though. I had an Audi Fox. That was my first stick shift car. I never had, all my muscle cars when I was a kid were all automatics, but I had an Audi Fox. It was this, uh, cool little fucking front-wheel-drive shitty 1973 car. It was great, though, like little four-cylinder. It was like the first car that I had that was little, that can like move around. It's like, this thing's fun. And like, learning how to shift. Everything today is just, you're barely connected to what you're driving. You feel like the shifting is, the steering's electric. Everything's, everything's smooth. Back then, you felt the cars.

• 2:28:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's gone.

• 2:28:06Joe Rogan?

  That's, well, that's why people like to drive old cars still. Like to feel them, you know?

• 2:28:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I would, if I had the money, I would get like something. That's why I said I asked about the, if you can do a new engine in a car.

• 2:28:16Joe Rogan?

  You have money. What are you talking about?

• 2:28:16Speaker 02

  So many cars I missed.

• 2:28:17Joe Rogan?

  You could get a car with a nice engine.

• 2:28:19Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:28:21Speaker 04

  You literally have two brand-new cars.

• 2:28:23Joe Rogan?

  You're not gonna, first of all, you're not going to fix it yourself.

• 2:28:23Speaker 02

  No, one's a lease. That one's a Ram, which apparently sucks.

• 2:28:27Joe Rogan?

  You're not gonna fix it yourself, right?

• 2:28:28Speaker 02

  Never.

• 2:28:29Joe Rogan?

  So then, find a mechanic, you know, that you trust, find, you know, ask around, get a relationship with this mechanic and get a fucking cool car.

• 2:28:38Speaker 04

  Not the same way your mom did, though.

• 2:28:39Speaker 02

  Not that way. Well, if I could.

• 2:28:43Speaker 02

  Do you have a car, Louis? What's like, usually something for your child. Maybe the dream, the dream changes. When I was a kid.

• 2:28:49Speaker 04

  Jaguar, the one with the actual, the, the head, the hood ornament that was a Jaguar.

• 2:28:54Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:28:54Speaker 04

  I looked it up a couple of years ago. I wanted to get like, it's like an old-school Jaguar SJ6 or something, or whatever it was.

• 2:29:02Speaker 02

  Early 90s?

• 2:29:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, early 90s. They were the coolest cars ever. I looked it up recently and I found one for like nine grand, like, just, it looked great. And then I was gonna buy it, and then a friend of mine was like, dude, you literally, to get anything fixed on that car is crazy. Like, you'll never find the parts. Like, it's just, you're just especially.

• 2:29:17Speaker 02

  That is a tough one. When I was young, the one that like the cool kids had, that you're like, damn, I wish I had that, was that boxy-looking. Mustang 5.0.

• 2:29:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:29:27Speaker 02

  That was the one.

• 2:29:27Joe Rogan?

  The Vanilla Ice one.

• 2:29:28Speaker 02

  The convertible. Yeah, that's the exact one.

• 2:29:30Joe Rogan?

  Roll it in my 5.0.

• 2:29:32Speaker 02

  Rims on it and the convertible and that one just, that was the one.

• 2:29:37Joe Rogan?

  That was a good car.

• 2:29:37Speaker 02

  But talk about it changing. When I was a little kid, this was one of the most hurtful fat comments ever in my life. Um, when I was like, dude, when I get older, I want to get a Mazda Miata. And they go, that's going to be a fucking roller skate on your fat body. And I was like, okay. Well, I guess I'll get past the Miata. And now sometimes you see one on the roadstone. I still go, damn, it's pretty cool looking though.

• 2:29:57Joe Rogan?

  You ever seen those Miata's that they do conversions with? They put a V8 in them?

• 2:30:00Speaker 02

  Mm-mm.

• 2:30:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, there was a company called Flying Miata and they sold it to another company that's in Florida that does it now. I don't know what the name of it is. But they take a regular Miata and they stuff a big fucking aluminum GM crate engine in it. And it's got like 500 horsepower. It's madness. And this tiny little car that weighs nothing.

• 2:30:21Speaker 02

  Just lifts off the ground?

• 2:30:22Joe Rogan?

  But apparently they are a riot to drive. They're like the most fun cars to drive because they're super light with crazy power. And these new engines are not that heavy, so it doesn't fuck with the balance that much. It's like slightly heavier than the stock engine, but insane amounts of power and it sounds insane.

• 2:30:38Speaker 02

  When we were down at a Nashville Comedy Festival, there was a guy who used to work at the club, who pulled up in a like gold and blue, um.

• 2:30:50Joe Rogan?

  Lamborghini.

• 2:30:50Speaker 02

  Lamborghini. And it was, it was just like the colors were crazy and it had some writing on it. And we were so curious about it. He won it in a sweepstakes. He actually won a Lamborghini at a sweepstakes.

• 2:31:02Joe Rogan?

  These are those cars. Like, give me some volume so we can hear this thing.

• 2:31:05Speaker 02

  The Miata?

• 2:31:06Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, these are the Flying Miata's.

• 2:31:10Joe Rogan?

  Okay, that's not a Miata.

• 2:31:11Speaker 02

  I mean, it's just the front.

• 2:31:15Joe Rogan?

  This is the Miata.

• 2:31:19Speaker 04

  That sounds crazy. Um, but there's a new company that does it now. It's not them and there's some better videos. Where they show like what.

• 2:31:26Speaker 02

  Who's driving that thing? Cat Williams? I think he was hugging the corners.

• 2:31:31Speaker 04

  Imagine if Cat Williams like enters F1. Starts running races. Oh, you never thought I could do it.

• 2:31:36Speaker 02

  F1's really like right in the streets of a town?

• 2:31:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, in Monaco. They drive through the streets. They do it in Vegas, too.

• 2:31:43Speaker 02

  They did in, uh, Canada.

• 2:31:45Speaker 04

  Oh, did they?

• 2:31:46Speaker 02

  In Montreal, I think one year the festival was there. That was like they were preparing for F1.

• 2:31:49Speaker 04

  Oh, wow. It's wild. They do it out here, but they do it at the Circuit of the Americas. That's what that neon sign up there is.

• 2:31:55Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 2:31:56Speaker 04

  Our neon died, I think. Did it die? I think it died. But, um, that fucking racetrack out here, Coda, it's awesome. Watching Formula One there's you can't imagine how fast they're going.

• 2:32:09Speaker 02

  Is that the place? Is that the place? I think, I think I did one of those rock fests there backstage or oddball tour. Is that the one that has the overlook? Thing behind it?

• 2:32:20Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:32:20Speaker 02

  The F1 track?

• 2:32:21Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 2:32:21Speaker 02

  That's one of the, it's about getting over a fear in one day. Where I've never felt so. It's got, it's got a overlook thing. You take it's one floor elevator. It just goes right up to the top of that. Half of it's concrete, half of it's glass. Very thick glass, but I've never had this happen before. When I got up there the first time, I was gung ho to walk out over that glass and go, when I got to the glass.

• 2:32:43Speaker 04

  The glass is the floor?

• 2:32:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. But it was concrete. When I got to the glass part, my, I almost fell forward because my legs stopped. Like my legs stopped moving. Like my body shut down. Be like, no, no, no, no, we're not ready for it.

• 2:32:55Speaker 04

  Dude, I'm terrified of heights. Yeah, you should be.

• 2:32:58Speaker 02

  By the end of, yeah, there it is, dude. That's fucking, and by the way, they didn't have, I don't think those red things were there when I was there.

• 2:33:05Speaker 04

  Did I take the, uh, on top of the, the, this, this, the needle in, um, the stratosphere in Vegas? The strat?

• 2:33:12Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:33:13Speaker 04

  They have like a roller coaster at the top and then they also have like, you know, the, the ride that goes straight up and then just drops? I went on it with my son. My son has no respect for me anymore for this dude. Cause I was sitting in the chair, literally just, like they, they didn't even start, they, they, they pull you up for like maybe five feet first. And I thought, well, I was at the top. I was screaming like a woman. Everybody was cackling at me. My son was making fun of me and they didn't even go, and then when they finally went up, it was, I mean, I'm so deathly afraid of heights. Even if I'm strapped in, oh my God, dude.

• 2:33:43Speaker 02

  I could deal with it.

• 2:33:44Joe Rogan?

  You should be.

• 2:33:45Speaker 02

  I'm afraid of falling.

• 2:33:46Joe Rogan?

  It's horrible. If you're not, you're a freak. Those fucking, those free climber dudes, they're just freaks.

• 2:33:51Speaker 04

  Oh, the guys that like ju- like jump from building to building?

• 2:33:53Joe Rogan?

  No, like they're kinda like climbs like Mount Capitan with fucking, just chalk.

• 2:33:58Speaker 02

  How about the thing that Ralph did, that in New York you can do, you can go to the top of some building, and they have a thing where it's like they have, you're, you're like connected to a line. But do you remember the Dave Shaw show too? You could take a picture, something in New York where you're like, feet are on the building and you're hanging off it, like over New York City.

• 2:34:16Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, fuck that.

• 2:34:17Speaker 02

  Crazy, it's just like.

• 2:34:18Joe Rogan?

  Fuck that.

• 2:34:19Speaker 02

  I don't know, but I, I'm not like a.

• 2:34:21Joe Rogan?

  Just for a thrill.

• 2:34:22Speaker 02

  I would, I maybe could have gotten talking to Skydiving Young, not a chance. I've had some people try to talk me into it as an adult and I'm like.

• 2:34:27Joe Rogan?

  Bungee jumping, fuck you.

• 2:34:28Speaker 02

  If my daughter's gotta tell the fucking story, if my daughter's gonna tell the story of her dad dying in a fucking, a wing suit or something, you could jerk off.

• 2:34:36Joe Rogan?

  Brian Redband's dad was working at this place, one of the people he's working with is a skydiver. And, uh, always trying to get him to go, "Come on, come with us." One day, goes to work, they're not there. What happened?

• 2:34:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:34:51Speaker 02

  Just didn't open.

• 2:34:51Joe Rogan?

  Didn't open.

• 2:34:53Speaker 02

  That was a, there was a great.

• 2:34:54Joe Rogan?

  It happens.

• 2:34:55Speaker 02

  There was a thing called McCloskey on Netflix years ago.

• 2:34:58Speaker 04

  Was it a documentary?

• 2:34:59Speaker 02

  It was in fact a documentary about a, uh, about a snowboarder guy. He was like an extreme sports guy. And he died because he jumped, he like parach- he like base jumped into a fu- uh, national park. And when he landed, he was being chased by the Rangers and the cops to arrest him. And he went in the water with his parachute and everything, got caught up and died. I think he drowned in the water, I believe. Then they did a, a thing on the news, they did a, they were doing like a base jumping, you know, for this guy, like in memorial of him, like a, it was a demonstration, it was like it shouldn't be illegal. So what they were doing was, people were jumping, parachuting down, and when they landed, it was almost like organized, the cops would then arrest them.

• 2:35:42Speaker 02

  They were all getting arrested for doing it, but that was their protest that we're all gonna do it. You're gonna have to arrest us all. And then while they're doing all that, just in the background, you just see someone go. Just like way in the background, oh god! It's like, yes, this is why this is stupid.

• 2:35:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, fuck all that. I've never had any of that adventurous shit in me. I've gone skiing, which I feel like is adventurous enough for me.

• 2:36:04Speaker 02

  Killed a Kennedy and Sonny Bono.

• 2:36:05Speaker 04

  But it's actually really dangerous, dude. Skiing is like fucking wildly dangerous. Just sometimes I was in Park City and you're just going down these really long trail, like 20 minutes. Like you're just going and going and going. But there's times where like I'm going to the edge and all it takes is like just a little less control. And you just fly off the edge of a thing and you're done.

• 2:36:26Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 2:36:27Speaker 02

  How do cars not go off like up in the canyons in a ballet every year, like tons of them?

• 2:36:31Speaker 04

  They do.

• 2:36:32Speaker 02

  Constantly?

• 2:36:33Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that how Tiger Woods crashed?

• 2:36:35Speaker 02

  He went off one of those cliffs?

• 2:36:36Joe Rogan?

  Isn't that what happened, Jimmy? Not quite?

• 2:36:39Speaker 02

  I thought he just hit a tree.

• 2:36:40Joe Rogan?

  Um, there was one guy who was tweeting. He was like a famous plastic surgeon. He was tweeting and they discovered that he was tweeting at the very same area where he fell off the fucking cliff. So he was just like texting while he was driving and not paying attention. He went off the side.

• 2:36:55Speaker 02

  That's the most two in 10 moment in my life when I'm going over those, like through the Hollywood Hills. I mean, I really, it's crazy that you're able to drive that close to like certain death.

• 2:37:05Joe Rogan?

  Oh, well, how about the fucking drive up to San Francisco if you take the coast?

• 2:37:11Joe Rogan?

  There's times where the left side of you is just cliff.

• 2:37:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, the thousand feet down.

• 2:37:16Speaker 04

  Famous places like in the world, like in just other countries where, I mean, I've been to a few countries where you're driving, there's no rail, your tires are just like along the edge, like almost hanging off. It's fucking terrifying.

• 2:37:30Speaker 02

  Fucking dumb other countries.

• 2:37:32Joe Rogan?

  Oh man, there's wild countries where the only way to get is these fucking roads through the mountains. And sometimes there's boulders that fell in the way and you gotta move the fucking landslide and hope it doesn't hit you while you're driving.

• 2:37:44Speaker 02

  Amazing, all the years of driving for comedy and how long I've driven. Never seen a falling rock once.

• 2:37:49Speaker 04

  Not once?

• 2:37:49Speaker 02

  The sun says falling rock, never seen a falling rock anytime ever.

• 2:37:53Joe Rogan?

  I've only seen it on there.

• 2:37:53Speaker 02

  Never hit a deer?

• 2:37:54Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy. You've never hit one deer?

• 2:37:56Speaker 02

  I was on a tour bus to hit a deer once. That was pretty gnarly.

• 2:37:58Speaker 04

  I hit a rabbit recently.

• 2:38:01Speaker 02

  Oh yeah.

• 2:38:01Speaker 04

  I tried though.

• 2:38:02Joe Rogan?

  Oh, did you?

• 2:38:03Speaker 04

  No.

• 2:38:04Speaker 02

  I think you meant with your foot when you killed them both.

• 2:38:05Speaker 04

  No, I did. That actually happened to me recently. I was moving my lawn furniture, cause my fucking Mexican fucking lawn care people never moved the furniture back to where it's supposed to be. And I'm moving it back and I felt my foot go into the ground and I heard beep beep beep beep beep. And these baby bunnies jumped out of a bunny's nest, which apparently they're underground. I had no idea. And, um, yeah, they fucking.

• 2:38:25Speaker 02

  So Louis reported those guys to ICE. Piece of shit. What a piece of shit dude. Come on. They're just here trying to live the American dream dude.

• 2:38:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, the one jumped in my pool and went belly up and I thought it was dead. I scooped it out with the scissor third in the garbage. My girlfriend was like, are you sure it's dead? I was like, I'm positive it's dead. It was.

• 2:38:43Joe Rogan?

  Did you try feeding it carrots?

• 2:38:44Speaker 04

  She really did bring carrots out to these little broken bunnies. I was like, they don't want your carrots like these.

• 2:38:49Joe Rogan?

  Did they live?

• 2:38:50Speaker 02

  Stop trying to what's up.

• 2:38:51Speaker 04

  They did actually. I thought they were gonna die for sure. Cause I call, it was, it was on Memorial Day. Cause, and I called like, um, like a rescue, an animal rescue place and they were like, we're close. And I called the cops, they'll come and get them euthanized. And we're like, no, I'd rather them die a slow death in my backyard. And eventually they just started hopping around. The one guy, you know, we call him Limpy. And, uh, he was just fucking pushing himself with one leg.

• 2:39:14Speaker 02

  You should have glued their, uh, you should have glued their hands to their genitals and then hung them from something and be like, oh, another auto erotic asphyxiation gone wrong. Great. The guy from Inexcess, David Carney and now these rabbits.

• 2:39:26Speaker 04

  So he either lived or a hawk came and got him eventually, but.

• 2:39:28Joe Rogan?

  Do you think that some of those auto asphyxiation guys were murdered and they were set up to be humiliated and look that way?

• 2:39:35Speaker 02

  No, I think, yeah. Do you see now that now they try to take the jerking off part away from all those stories now?

• 2:39:41Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 2:39:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, they don't.

• 2:39:42Joe Rogan?

  How many stories are you reading that are auto erotic asphyxiation?

• 2:39:45Speaker 04

  None. But he's watched a whole documentary on it.

• 2:39:47Speaker 02

  No, I'm gonna have my own documentary. Soundgarden jerked off to death. Linkin Park jerked off to, anyone who hangs themselves.

• 2:39:54Joe Rogan?

  You mean Chris Cornell?

• 2:39:55Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:39:56Joe Rogan?

  Well, you, I don't think he was jerking off to death, was he?

• 2:39:58Speaker 04

  This is Jay's theory that he thinks everyone.

• 2:40:00Joe Rogan?

  Is it a theory?

• 2:40:01Speaker 02

  It's a strong theory.

• 2:40:02Joe Rogan?

  Did you make it yourself?

• 2:40:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:40:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh.

• 2:40:04Speaker 02

  They, who hangs.

• 2:40:05Joe Rogan?

  Just wanna be clear with breaking the news here.

• 2:40:07Speaker 04

  There's no evidence.

• 2:40:07Speaker 02

  You don't hang yourself from a fucking doorknob that low when you're not trying, they flash knockout while they're doing it. And then they just die because they're being choked.

• 2:40:17Joe Rogan?

  A hundred percent.

• 2:40:17Speaker 02

  They pass out. That's it. Yes. A hundred percent. You heard it here first. And Linkin Park.

• 2:40:23Speaker 04

  Robin Williams.

• 2:40:24Speaker 02

  Robin Williams, they said, put a note, but again, I think now the. Since Michael Hutchins from NXS famously did that and David Carradine, that was news. That made news, they were, they died from that.

• 2:40:36Joe Rogan?

  How good could it possibly feel?

• 2:40:38Speaker 02

  Uh, we have

• 2:40:39Speaker 04

  You ever get choked during sex?

• 2:40:39Speaker 02

  I've had people call in.

• 2:40:40Joe Rogan?

  To get choked out, like while you're nuttin'.

• 2:40:43Speaker 02

  I've heard people call in to tell. People say it mimics, a lot of times former addicts do it because it mimics like the feeling of like the high of like heroin. That's what they said, but that's just people who've called in, uh, to say that. Who knows? But because Michael Hutchins and David, it's like the first, when you think of their name, before you think of even NXS or any of the songs, you're like, oh yeah, he died.

• 2:41:06Joe Rogan?

  Jerking off.

• 2:41:06Speaker 02

  Jerking off, David Carradine, all those movies, died jerking off. So now, they'd rather have you think they were just depressed and going through it than saying that because that's all you're gonna be known for now.

• 2:41:15Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:41:16Speaker 02

  It's probably pretty great.

• 2:41:17Joe Rogan?

  It's not a bad theory if the family can hide that information. Like it's important that he was jerking off. He killed himself. The world doesn't need to know he was jerking off while he killed himself.

• 2:41:26Speaker 02

  Well, you'd rather feel that it was on purpose because he was desperate and sad.

• 2:41:30Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:41:31Speaker 02

  Than he was such a weirdo that he had to jerk off and hang himself from a fucking doorknob.

• 2:41:35Joe Rogan?

  I heard there's a conspiracy involving the David Carradine one. I think David Carradine had run afoul with some shady characters.

• 2:41:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, five, five venoms, dude.

• 2:41:44Joe Rogan?

  I think it was in Thailand. Wasn't it in Thailand or something like that where he wanted?

• 2:41:48Speaker 02

  He's actually Kung Fu.

• 2:41:49Joe Rogan?

  Is it a, is there a conspiracy theory attached that we should call Sam Tripoli?

• 2:41:53Speaker 02

  He roamed the earth, bringing HPV to foreigners.

• 2:41:57Joe Rogan?

  He was Kung Fu when I was a kid. When I was a little kid, he was the guy that was doing martial arts on TV. Yeah. Kai Chang Kane. Everybody called everybody grasshopper back then.

• 2:42:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, but getting choked while you have sex rules.

• 2:42:08Speaker 02

  All right, bring it back up.

• 2:42:10Speaker 04

  I'm not really, I'm just saying I did.

• 2:42:11Joe Rogan?

  He's hanging on it.

• 2:42:12Speaker 02

  All right, but I'll choke you out while you're whacking.

• 2:42:14Joe Rogan?

  David Carradine was wearing fishnet stockings and a dark wig when his body was found hanging in a Bangkok hotel room. Grainy images printed in the tabloid, Thai Wrath reportedly show Kung Fu actor suspended from a clothing bar in a closet. Red woman's lingerie appears to be in the bed adjacent to the body.

• 2:42:29Speaker 04

  Oh, this is somebody who hated him.

• 2:42:30Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, that might be, right? Uh, he, okay, found with his hands bound above his head and a rope around his neck, wrist and genitals. How would one do that to themselves? Sore details of Kill Bill star's sexual life began to surface as the photos generated more questions about the actress's mysterious death. That seems like you couldn't do that yourself, unless you're really ingenious. How do you, how do you bound, it says hands bound above his head. How you do that? And a rope around your neck, wrists and genitals.

• 2:43:03Speaker 04

  You need a really cool friend.

• 2:43:04Joe Rogan?

  How are you doing that?

• 2:43:05Speaker 02

  One inch punch. One inch punch dude.

• 2:43:08Joe Rogan?

  Are you, are you pulling it tight with your hands? What? Okay, yeah, let's fuck that.

• 2:43:15Speaker 02

  Still getting carried away.

• 2:43:16Joe Rogan?

  Sorry, you're looking real gross. Yeah, there's a lot of accusations involving.

• 2:43:21Speaker 02

  He was giving his wiener the old five finger death punch.

• 2:43:23Joe Rogan?

  But I mean, if, what are the like standards of like in Thailand? If they find you hanging, wearing women's lingerie? Do they really want to investigate? They're probably just gonna kill themselves.

• 2:43:33Speaker 04

  I don't want to touch that, it's icky.

• 2:43:34Joe Rogan?

  They're probably like, how is even, how is it auto erotic asphyxiation if his hands are tied up too, above his head?

• 2:43:40Speaker 02

  That's the weirder thing I never saw, saw it before, that his hands were above his head.

• 2:43:43Joe Rogan?

  That sounds like he got killed.

• 2:43:44Speaker 02

  That sounds like somebody walked away, well, it's one of those, it might have gotten carried away and somebody just left because they were like, whoop.

• 2:43:49Joe Rogan?

  Right. Like maybe a lady was giving him head and then he came and then blacked out and she couldn't get him off the ropes.

• 2:43:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, split.

• 2:43:56Joe Rogan?

  Just fucking booted out of there.

• 2:43:58Speaker 02

  Not like, like in Park and Soundgarden, who are just jerking to each other's music.

• 2:44:02Joe Rogan?

  I don't, I think some of them are just depressed dude, Bourdain was just depressed.

• 2:44:06Speaker 02

  But who hangs? There's so many faster ways to take care of the situation.

• 2:44:10Joe Rogan?

  They don't have anything around them other than a rope and then it's an impulsive decision.

• 2:44:13Speaker 04

  And it's also like a romantic way to kill yourself. It's like, who's got rope?

• 2:44:19Joe Rogan?

  You don't need rope, cord. You need cord. How about the guy that-

• 2:44:23Speaker 02

  Your jizz sock from all your auto erotic asphyxiation?

• 2:44:26Joe Rogan?

  The guy that was connected to the Clintons that hung himself with electrical cord then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun?

• 2:44:34Speaker 04

  From forty yards away.

• 2:44:36Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, looks a little sus, as the kids like to say.

• 2:44:38Speaker 04

  If you had to kill yourself, Joe, how would you kill yourself? You had to.

• 2:44:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, gun is definitely the best way, right? Cause it's quick.

• 2:44:45Speaker 04

  Hey, what if you shoot like your front lobe off?

• 2:44:47Joe Rogan?

  Don't do that. Don't put it in your mouth like a real man.

• 2:44:50Speaker 02

  That was the fucking Richard Jenny, Richard Jenny.

• 2:44:52Speaker 04

  And then choke yourself.

• 2:44:53Speaker 02

  He missed.

• 2:44:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he missed.

• 2:44:54Speaker 02

  And died later.

• 2:44:55Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, he died in the hospital.

• 2:44:56Speaker 04

  That'd be my biggest fear is like shooting, like just angling it wrong and then just.

• 2:45:01Joe Rogan?

  I saw a video of a guy who did that with a shotgun. He just took off the front of his face and was blind. Or lived, yeah.

• 2:45:09Speaker 04

  Life is now worse.

• 2:45:10Speaker 02

  Richard Jenny takes his life. Dave Couillard never even tried to take his own.

• 2:45:14Joe Rogan?

  Richard Jenny was funny, dude.

• 2:45:16Speaker 02

  Very funny.

• 2:45:17Joe Rogan?

  Back in the day, he was the fucking man. He was depressed that he'd never wound up being a movie star. He wanted to be like, he wanted to be the next Jim Carrey, you know?

• 2:45:24Speaker 02

  He did, yeah, he got close with the mask and they said it just made him more bummed.

• 2:45:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, it's crazy because he's like, to us, all the comics back then, he was the guy, you know?

• 2:45:34Speaker 02

  Well, he was on all those shows. Were you doing comedy at the time? Did you, do you have performances on like A-list and, uh, Stand Up Spotlight or VH1?

• 2:45:43Joe Rogan?

  I did a bunch of those. Yeah, I did a bunch of those.

• 2:45:45Speaker 02

  Caroline's Comedy Hour was a biggie?

• 2:45:47Joe Rogan?

  I did that. I did, um, MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour.

• 2:45:50Speaker 02

  That was Paulie, right?

• 2:45:51Joe Rogan?

  No, that was Paulie was totally Paulie. MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour was another show that would do, you know, do like ten minutes or something. I forget what the time was.

• 2:46:00Speaker 02

  VH1 did one of those with Rosie O'Donnell kinda hosted them or something.

• 2:46:03Joe Rogan?

  Yep, yep, yep.

• 2:46:04Speaker 02

  So it seemed like, it seemed like it was a pretty fun time in comedy. Comedy was pretty polluted with like a lot of same old, same old.

• 2:46:11Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:46:12Speaker 02

  Uh, at the time, but I mean, like what a time to kinda like. That's why it was funny when I, when I was opening for Dave Attell those years, he couldn't get a grasp on like the change that I was experiencing that he, cause he was kinda like. After three years, like, you wanna go with me to this club again? And I'd go, absolutely. And he'd go, aren't you headlining this place yet? And it's like, it doesn't work like that anymore. Cause he's from a time where they said, if you got an hour of comedy together, then you tore, that's what they say.

• 2:46:36Speaker 04

  Well, Dave was way ahead of his time.

• 2:46:38Speaker 02

  You tore that hour of comedy. He goes, you can't just do that. Like, any place to book you.

• 2:46:42Speaker 04

  Well, Dave, before, I mean, back when I started, this is 21 years ago, like, people would just have their act. You remember Seinfeld's documentary where he was like, he's like, I'm gonna get rid of my act after 20 years and have a new hour. It's like, that's what everyone does now. The standard of comedy has changed so much.

• 2:46:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:46:56Speaker 04

  And I feel like a tell was always like that. He would turn over. He was very prolific.

• 2:46:59Speaker 02

  No, no, for sure. I'm saying, he didn't get that, like, the change that now you have to be able to sell tickets.

• 2:47:05Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:47:05Speaker 02

  To get book places first. It wasn't just like, well, you're one of the comics who has an hour in the country.

• 2:47:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:47:10Speaker 02

  There was a time where it was that. It was like, these guys just, I think it was like the two coasts, really was all of it. You know what I mean? Then the internet, I think, really opened it up to the rest of the country and it's like saturation now.

• 2:47:19Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you used to be able to go to clubs and build a market. So you just keep returning. You turn like once a year and after a few years, people would come to see you like, oh, Big Jay's coming. He's really funny. We saw him last time.

• 2:47:31Speaker 02

  San Fran Punchline, Stress Factory are maybe two of the only clubs that really, I know there's more. Oh, the Providence Comedy Connection. Let me go there and have enjoyed watching it be like, you know, giving me a couple hundred dollars for a weekend to change over the years.

• 2:47:44Speaker 04

  I remember, I opened for you, you made $600 for the weekend as the headliner.

• 2:47:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they give you a chance. And if you're good, and they know you're good, and they give you a chance, the people trust them cause they got a long history of booking good comedy. It's like, who's this guy? Is he good? Ah, let's take a chance.

• 2:47:58Speaker 02

  Right. But places got afraid. I remember that, that hurt so much. I opened for Steve-O when he first started doing comedy. Uh, stand by, before me, uh, and I'd done DC Improv with a tell and stuff before, and I did that weekend. And I hate when you go hat in hand to places and you get bad news. I remember going to the Booker there. Who was like someone who's like so friendly to me now and she's great, you know, but like It was so hard, I go, hey, just I'd love to come back and headline, even like in an off weekend, one people don't want to do, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, whatever, and she goes, yeah. I'd love to, but you don't sell any tickets, so it's all about selling tickets. And she was kind of laid it out like that, and I just thought I was, I was like, well, how do you? I didn't even know how to start making that happen. It's pretty when we started like Legion of Skanks and stuff.

• 2:48:38Speaker 04

  Well, podcasting sort of created an opportunity for comics to.

• 2:48:41Joe Rogan?

  The best.

• 2:48:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:48:43Joe Rogan?

  The best opportunity.

• 2:48:44Speaker 04

  People, they know us, they feel like they're really like, sitting here with us.

• 2:48:48Joe Rogan?

  Well, they really are, right? And we talk like this if we were in the green room. The difference between podcasts and everything else is we're really talking just the way we talk.

• 2:48:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:48:56Joe Rogan?

  You know?

• 2:48:57Speaker 02

  But everyone also gets mad to it, like, what the thing is besides stand-up that makes it happen, whether it's podcasts.

• 2:49:03Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:49:03Speaker 02

  Internet videos.

• 2:49:04Joe Rogan?

  Yes.

• 2:49:04Speaker 02

  I've learned also to stop having that, because people get a lot, too much wrapped into that, like, there's a social media comic, or there's a whatever, it goes, Buddy, I don't know, my ex-wife does comedy and people ask me, like, are you mad that she does comedy? Like, I can't judge why anybody gets involved in it. I got involved because somebody suggested it to me.

• 2:49:19Joe Rogan?

  It's crazy to even want to.

• 2:49:21Speaker 02

  To care.

• 2:49:21Joe Rogan?

  Like, who gives a fuck?

• 2:49:22Speaker 02

  It's like, why'd you do it? It goes, oh, because I was having funny tweets, so I figured I'd give it a shot, like, okay, it seems like a good enough reason as anybody else starts.

• 2:49:28Speaker 04

  The first decade, you don't even, there's no path, like, what is the path to, like, even making money? You're just doing it blindly, going like, I hope something happens eventually.

• 2:49:37Speaker 02

  People get mad because I think there is a path now to making money very quick, and people are doing it, and so it's that.

• 2:49:42Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:49:43Speaker 02

  It's the Howard Stern, used to shit on, it was that famous thing with him and Ari, shit on the idea of podcasts. But when people were shitty about that, I always understood his anger, at least, I don't agree with it, but I understand, when he did the.

• 2:49:55Joe Rogan?

  Well, his anger didn't make sense because he was already super famous.

• 2:49:58Speaker 02

  No, but his argument was saying, I had to do AM shift.

• 2:50:01Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:50:01Speaker 02

  2 AM to 6 AM, uh, in this shitty town, and I had to do this, and I, and I played music until they realized it would be better to let me talk 10 years later, you know, and he, and he went through all that, that it's just like, Well, you could flip on a switch, and if you have an audience already, or connected to somebody who has an audience, like, You're doing it already? Like, you're just doing it now.

• 2:50:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, also, the difference is we all hang out with each other and do each other's podcasts, whereas those radio guys all. Fucking hated each other.

• 2:50:25Speaker 04

  You're right.

• 2:50:26Joe Rogan?

  Like Howard Stern.

• 2:50:26Speaker 02

  Just by taking each other down.

• 2:50:28Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, they would talk shit about each other all the time.

• 2:50:30Speaker 04

  Obie Anthony used to have, uh, what was it? Uh, uh, Jocktober.

• 2:50:33Speaker 02

  Jocktober.

• 2:50:33Speaker 04

  Where they would just find shitty radio shows and they would have their fans torture them for an entire month. Oh, so funny.

• 2:50:40Joe Rogan?

  Brutal, fucking brutal.

• 2:50:41Speaker 02

  Cut wrote.

• 2:50:42Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, cut, it was a different.

• 2:50:43Speaker 02

  Podcast doesn't have to be.

• 2:50:44Joe Rogan?

  Right, because it, like, you could only be the one big radio guy in Philly. You know, and if Stern was coming into Philly and if they were gonna open up like a syndication thing, he was gonna talk crazy shit on the big guy in Philly. Whoever it was, or whatever city it was.

• 2:50:57Speaker 02

  I do feel it's interesting watching, I wonder if this happens with every generation, the comedy dollar gets stretched though, cause it is kinda funny, not that it necessarily hurt. I think the, now with like having these kinda like sham, I'm opening for Shane at some of these arenas and stuff, it's amazing. He's getting like eighteen, twenty some thousand people into these places. And doing it, um, one, that's very difficult to like think of new jokes when you're doing comedy like that all the time, but.

• 2:51:19Joe Rogan?

  Well, you do clubs.

• 2:51:20Speaker 02

  For sure, no, I do clubs.

• 2:51:21Joe Rogan?

  You have to, no, but I mean, you have to.

• 2:51:23Speaker 02

  Like a Shane will do clubs, oh, no, for sure.

• 2:51:25Joe Rogan?

  Of course.

• 2:51:25Speaker 02

  I'm just saying like, a ticket to see someone in an arena is, it's before they'd be able to see everyone they loved was coming through the improv or whatever, and then a couple were doing theaters.

• 2:51:34Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:51:35Speaker 02

  Like now, it's like, it's a fucking night out at like a sporting event to go see comedy where it's like, they might not have the money next week to go see me or Louis at a club. I think it has changed, it's interesting in that way.

• 2:51:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's some people that just don't wanna spend that kinda money to go to an arena anyway, and they'd rather go see someone in a club.

• 2:51:50Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:51:51Speaker 04

  It's a better experience, it's how comedy's supposed to be.

• 2:51:53Joe Rogan?

  The best experience though in an arena is in the round. In the round is like a giant, it's like a giant club. It's like a giant club, cause the people on this side are watching the people on that side laugh, and you're all laughing at each other, it's very intimate, weirdly. Even though there's like sixteen thousand people.

• 2:52:07Speaker 02

  The comedy, the only comedy I don't love at all, of the three things, clubs, theaters, is theaters. Theaters is impersonal from the crowd enough, and also personal enough that they, you could still do bad. They could turn on you with theater, um, possibly if you're not the person they're there to see. Or even if, you know what I mean, there was like a Nick Swartson thing that where he, they turned on him.

• 2:52:27Joe Rogan?

  Well, he was lit on edibles.

• 2:52:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:52:29Joe Rogan?

  Couldn't remember what the fuck he was talking about.

• 2:52:32Speaker 02

  They weren't with him no matter what, like they did turn on him. Something about the arena, and again Shane's doing an hour at these things, which is impressive as hell, for the twenty minutes I have to do, it's like, how could this go bad? Like, it's just, if, if, anyone's laughing in there, it sounds like a million people laughing.

• 2:52:47Speaker 04

  Shane had a guy open for him, I don't wanna trash the guy.

• 2:52:49Speaker 02

  I heard it was a sound issue though.

• 2:52:51Speaker 04

  But he just like. Dude, he just started getting booed. Dude, getting booed out of an arena is crazy.

• 2:52:58Speaker 02

  Crazy.

• 2:52:59Speaker 04

  I mean, you have to feel like, it has to feel like, like being like, you're getting the same reaction like that the visiting team gets when they go to that arena.

• 2:53:07Joe Rogan?

  I've seen it on Kill Tony.

• 2:53:09Speaker 02

  It happened to a comic.

• 2:53:09Speaker 04

  Kill Tony arena shows too happen. Somebody, somebody will do two jokes in a row that bomb.

• 2:53:14Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:53:14Speaker 04

  And then the crowd's like, fuck this guy. And then it's almost fun. I think it's because people are in that environment. They think it's fun to do it.

• 2:53:20Speaker 02

  How about T. J. Simpson, T.I. got booed at something when he was doing comedy, like at a big arena?

• 2:53:24Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah. Well, it wasn't, you know, didn't have it tight.

• 2:53:27Speaker 02

  No, he sure didn't.

• 2:53:28Joe Rogan?

  You can't do that. You can't just jump into, you know.

• 2:53:31Speaker 02

  But you can just lose them. So like Damian Lemon, very, very funny comic. He did like the Hot 97, Summer Jam comedy thing and like they turned on him hard and when it turns, it turns.

• 2:53:40Speaker 04

  Or the most famous one of all, Bill Burr on the traveling virus tour, Opie and Anthony back in the day in Philly.

• 2:53:45Joe Rogan?

  Well, that's because they had turned on Dom Arreola before.

• 2:53:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then he came out and he just said, yeah, he said, fuck this crowd. And he spent 15 minutes just shitting. It's one of the most beautiful moments. Legendary moments in comedy.

• 2:53:56Speaker 02

  I'm from Philly and it's one of my favorite lines ever about Philly that is indicative of that town that I love. Was he says, Joe Frazier is from here, who beat Mike Ty, or beat Muhammad Ali. No, no statues to him, nothing. And you have a statue of a fictitious Italian heavyweight.

• 2:54:13Speaker 04

  He's like, you piece of shit threw batteries at Santa Claus. Fuck this town.

• 2:54:17Joe Rogan?

  That's a classic. And he kept rattling off, seven more minutes.

• 2:54:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:54:22Joe Rogan?

  Like.

• 2:54:22Speaker 02

  I know, that's funny. He had to quit that tour because everywhere he went then they would start booing him because they'd be like, do Cleveland now.

• 2:54:27Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. No.

• 2:54:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was like, that was like, this before viral videos were happening like that.

• 2:54:32Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 2:54:33Speaker 04

  It was such shitty grainy footage. Um, but that's when I, I mean, maybe my first year in comedy that happened, a couple of years in. And you're just seeing that and it's like, it's such a comics moment where you're like, yes, just fucking.

• 2:54:44Speaker 02

  Well, it's a big, it's a big moment to have in comedy. I said a few of them when you, when silence doesn't scare you anymore. Or just the most, just, I could talk into a microphone, especially for 15 minutes, under any circumstance. You know what I mean? Like it'll suck if it's a terrible, you got, they're already booing, go out in the very beginning, there's no one there, but like, I'm not afraid of the moment.

• 2:55:03Speaker 04

  Doesn't it suck when it's like?

• 2:55:04Speaker 02

  That's a big thing to get over and that's what, you know, being scared for the moment.

• 2:55:07Speaker 04

  When you're headlining a show.

• 2:55:08Speaker 02

  Overseas the first time, I was like, do they even understand English here in England?

• 2:55:12Speaker 04

  The first five minutes, if you're doing a headlining set that's not going well and you're like, oh, fuck, it's gonna be another hour.

• 2:55:18Joe Rogan?

  God damn it.

• 2:55:21Speaker 04

  Are you a long time guy or do you try to do like when you headline something?

• 2:55:24Joe Rogan?

  I do an hour.

• 2:55:25Speaker 04

  An hour?

• 2:55:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, especially if I'm on the road.

• 2:55:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:55:28Joe Rogan?

  Always. I don't really have an hour right now, so I'm like putting it together. I think last night I did 50 minutes. You know, and like some of it, I keep forgetting my new stuff. You know, it's a lot of new stuff because it's all since August.

• 2:55:40Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 2:55:41Joe Rogan?

  You know, and I took a couple of months off where I wasn't doing stand up at all. I was like, let me just refresh my brain. And then I hopped on, started doing other people's shows. Then I had some old bits that I'd never put on the special and I started bringing them back and piecing it together, but it's like you gotta have a real set before you take that bitch on the road. You can't think you could have like a club 45 minutes and go do an arena. Like if you're gonna do an arena, yeah, you gotta have a real set.

• 2:56:06Speaker 04

  So I would say I work out in the clubs on the road.

• 2:56:09Joe Rogan?

  Have to.

• 2:56:09Speaker 04

  Particularly, I mean, like, but it's, I, I.

• 2:56:11Joe Rogan?

  Burr said that back in the day.

• 2:56:13Speaker 04

  For a special, really.

• 2:56:14Joe Rogan?

  Burr said that back in the day where he was talking about someone special and it's like, he didn't do the clubs. And he's like, he's right. Like this person, like some persons, they start doing theaters, big theaters, and they do real well and they just keep doing that only. Same opening act every time. Crowd wants to see them and you develop like a, it's like a soft act.

• 2:56:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:56:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Yeah, not good. You need clubs, man.

• 2:56:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, but Austin's great for that as well. So you, what you did down here is you, um, you got a, you've cultivated like comedy fans that want to see edgier shit. They want to hear fucked up jokes. New York and LA, they don't really, like, if you're just going on a random pop in set at the stand or the cellar or the comedy store into some random show and they don't know who you are, you start doing fucked up shit. They get very tight.

• 2:56:56Joe Rogan?

  Hmm.

• 2:56:57Speaker 04

  Very tight. Like down here, like you go in the main room of the mothership or at the creek. I mean, these, they're comedy fans. They're like legit. It's become like a comedy destination, kind of how like, you know, people go to New Orleans for jazz.

• 2:57:08Joe Rogan?

  Well, this town doesn't seem to feel like it has the same. Responsibility to like correct bad behavior on stage than New York has and LA has sometimes. Like they'll, they want to let you know that you're out of line. They don't want you talking about a certain subject. It's like.

• 2:57:23Speaker 02

  Did you think there was gonna be when you opened the club, did you like foresee the dissension and stuff that happens just within the scene? The people that don't work there bitching about that it's for this reason and the people who.

• 2:57:33Joe Rogan?

  It's a walled garden.

• 2:57:35Speaker 02

  And everyone goes, they got in there because of this and I'm not in there because of this.

• 2:57:39Joe Rogan?

  It's a, they have a walled garden perspective. You see a bunch of people having a good time and you're not involved. Fuck those people. It's normal. It's a natural reaction that people have to like this intimate community of people that are all friends that are having a great time. It's normal to hate it. Yeah, but it's not all wild comedy. There's a lot of like really clean comics that come here that kill. Like Vecchione is fucking pretty clean. He's hilarious.

• 2:58:01Speaker 04

  He's squeaky clean sometimes, right?

• 2:58:02Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, hilarious.

• 2:58:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like Nate's, one Nate's guy, so yeah.

• 2:58:05Joe Rogan?

  And murders at the club.

• 2:58:07Speaker 02

  He's a beast.

• 2:58:07Joe Rogan?

  He's a beast. But it doesn't matter. It's just funny. It's just whatever kind of funny you're into. Holtzman comes and destroys.

• 2:58:13Speaker 02

  I'm not saying, I'm not even saying the booking is like one dimensional anyway. I'm just saying that.

• 2:58:18Joe Rogan?

  You can.

• 2:58:19Speaker 02

  Did you even foresee there'd be comics that were gonna be eventually like, club sucks anyways?

• 2:58:24Joe Rogan?

  I don't hear about them.

• 2:58:25Speaker 02

  You stay away, I guess it doesn't make its way to you. They wouldn't, that'd be stupid.

• 2:58:28Joe Rogan?

  You're gonna have people that complain about anything that they're not involved in.

• 2:58:32Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 2:58:32Joe Rogan?

  They're gonna decide it sucks. Like how could it suck if you've got two days of open mics? How could it suck if the comics get paid more than anywhere else? How could it suck if it's entirely set up for comedy? How could it suck if it's super supportive of the comedians and gives them a path?

• 2:58:45Speaker 02

  What is the path for the young comic in mothership?

• 2:58:47Joe Rogan?

  Well, there's a real, there's a real talent coordinator, you know? Adam E. gets a real talent coordinator. He sits there and he watches your set. He gives you advice. He'll have you come back and do it again. He'll give you spots on certain shows. They start developing comedians.

• 2:59:00Speaker 04

  And it's like anything else, like, you know, this business is about being likable and getting people to wanna watch you succeed.

• 2:59:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 2:59:07Speaker 04

  Where it's like, you'll get your opportunity if you fucking, if all the other comics are like, yo, this guy's funny. You should take a look at him. I've seen that happen directly. Can I get the lighter again?

• 2:59:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, we have it set up for development. Like, the whole idea is like, you want to develop new talent there. And Kill Tony's the best vehicle for that ever. You know, if you have a banger minute on Kill Tony, you could become a fucking star. And if you could reproduce that every week.

• 2:59:32Speaker 04

  Fifty-nine times.

• 2:59:35Joe Rogan?

  Kind of crazy that some of them have to do that, you know?

• 2:59:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:59:37Joe Rogan?

  I mean, it's an incredible writing exercise.

• 2:59:40Speaker 04

  It's kind of crazy. The advice I'd have given a young comic, you know, fifteen years ago, I was a young comic at the time too, but it's like, I would be like, do not be on camera for the first decade that you do comedy. Develop and act first. But now a lot of these guys, just they have the opportunity. It's like.

• 2:59:54Speaker 02

  But can it be detrimental if you really eat shit on it? And you're like a three-year comic?

• 2:59:58Speaker 04

  I don't think people remember people bombing on Kill Tony where it'll be detrimental to your career.

• 3:00:01Joe Rogan?

  It could be. But, you know, it could not be. You bounce back and have a great set the next time and the people love you. I've seen that happen too. Look, it's, you're taking a risk when you're doing a new minute every week. There's a real possibility you might have a dud.

• 3:00:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:00:14Joe Rogan?

  You know, especially if you're new to the game. You've only been doing it four years. You've got some talent, but you know.

• 3:00:18Speaker 02

  I genuinely don't know. It's an interesting thing why I had to do it, essentially at Madison Square Garden.

• 3:00:26Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:00:26Speaker 02

  When you guys were there. It's an interesting thing. They try to whittle down in your head like, what the fuck is?

• 3:00:30Speaker 04

  Just a minute, yeah.

• 3:00:31Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, but they were all pumped to see you, so it was easier.

• 3:00:34Speaker 02

  No, of course. That's that arena's atmosphere too. It's like, it's our game to lose.

• 3:00:37Speaker 04

  The Garden, I think, was like the best arena Kill Tony show. Like, it was like, it was really cool. I went both nights. And, uh, whatever it was, like, they were just, the crowds were so lit on watching those shows. Like, nobody got booed. There was no problems. Like, super supportive.

• 3:00:53Joe Rogan?

  Super supportive. Well, some people got booed. This is people that bombed.

• 3:00:57Speaker 04

  Did they?

• 3:00:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:00:57Speaker 02

  Oh, the one, I think someone went right before me.

• 3:01:00Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, a couple of people bombed. It's, look, it's fucking hard to do, man. And it's fun to watch someone just go out there and fail sometimes. It just is, it's what makes the people, it makes the people that succeed look better.

• 3:01:11Speaker 04

  When I do Kill Tony as a panelist, I love watching somebody bomb. It's my favorite thing. Cause then you

• 3:01:17Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:01:17Speaker 04

  just trash them. You get to fucking make fun of them. That was, I thought that's what, when we started doing the show, I've been on, I've been a panelist on Kill Tony. I think I might have the number one amount of times, like twenty-five times I've been a panelist. And when we started doing it, like, back in the day in the Comedy Store, in the Belly Room. Um, the most fun we would have is when somebody just had a hot one and then we would just fucking trash them. It became way more supportive now. Like, the whole show format is like, really like, Tony trying to put guys over. But back in the day, we were just mean. It was just like a mean, evil fucking thing. It was so fun. Yeah.

• 3:01:51Joe Rogan?

  It evolved. Those Belly Room days were wild. Cause, you know, like, half the crowd would be like comics.

• 3:01:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:01:56Joe Rogan?

  There was no one there. It was fun. They, but he kept doing it. I mean, he fucking did it over and over and over again till he honed that motherfucker down like a samurai sword.

• 3:02:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, I'm super impressed with it. Like, you know, Tony's, uh, Tony's the man, but that show itself is like...

• 3:02:09Speaker 02

  I think it's inspiration for like Story Warz, you know, very different show. It's just the idea of like the live.

• 3:02:14Speaker 04

  The format and like, yeah, yeah, that's a...

• 3:02:17Speaker 02

  You know, Skanks has always been a live show, but the development of Story Warz has been very like...

• 3:02:22Speaker 04

  Well, it's also easier when you have a format. Like, we literally just set the table and then play. And it's like, we don't have to really do much. When you're on a podcast like this, or like Skanks, you have to actually kinda like, be a little bit more present and like, just sorta like, you're trying to connect with the comics in a different way. When we, our, our, we do, it's like a game show that we created. And, uh, it's just super formatted. So, it's just kinda easy to just...

• 3:02:43Speaker 02

  Plug and play funny.

• 3:02:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:02:44Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. Well, you guys, by doing Legion of Skanks, just by the name itself, it like opened up the door to wild comedy. Cause it's like, you know what you're getting into. It's called, the show's called Legion of Skanks.

• 3:02:55Speaker 04

  Well, this was a brilliant idea that Jay had. Like, our, our secondary tagline is the most offensive podcast on earth. And it's not. There's more offensive podcasts, but, it lets people, this, I think this is the reason we've never gotten in trouble, is because you know exactly what you're gonna get.

• 3:03:08Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:03:09Speaker 04

  It's cra- like, for anybody to come in and...

• 3:03:10Speaker 02

  Why would you watch this if you don't wanna watch the most offensive podcast? Like, it's hard to stay away.

• 3:03:14Speaker 04

  How are you gonna complain about it? You look like an idiot if you start complaining about it.

• 3:03:17Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 3:03:17Speaker 04

  You, uh, Adam Carolla had a great analogy about it when he did our show. He said, uh, he was like, this is what you guys, why you guys get away with it. He's like, like when Snoop Dogg goes to the Grammys. Snoop Dogg goes backstage and he lights a blunt. And nobody's like, you can't smoke back here. It's like, you invited Snoop Dogg. You know what the fuck you're gonna get, right? And it's the same thing with us. I think people know what they're gonna get with us. And we sort of, you know, play and have fun and do our thing.

• 3:03:41Joe Rogan?

  Well, you give a, an avenue for comedians that's like, you know, where, where people know what they're gonna get. And, and obviously, people flock to it. I mean, Skank Fest sells out immediately.

• 3:03:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:03:50Joe Rogan?

  It's because people love the vibe. It's fun. It's just fun. We're, we're not here to take ourselves seriously.

• 3:03:55Speaker 02

  Also, broadcasting has done something for comedy. It's pretty amazing. That I think broadcasters like the Howard Sterns, they had that all the time. It's very interesting when you meet the people, they know you, inside and out. They know the time you told a story about the thing you fear the most and they know whatever and

• 3:04:10Joe Rogan?

  Oh yeah.

• 3:04:10Speaker 02

  I did get used to stuff like that where they'd be like, hey, is your daughter picking a college? And you go, fuck you. I'm like, oh, I guess I, and you're like, oh, I guess I talked about that on the radio this week.

• 3:04:18Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:04:19Speaker 02

  So it's interesting.

• 3:04:19Joe Rogan?

  It's weird. You can forget that there's an audience out there sometimes.

• 3:04:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:04:23Joe Rogan?

  Yeah. You know, you forget sometimes that the things you say have weight to them, you know?

• 3:04:28Speaker 02

  No, absolutely. We found out the hard way. When we started out, who knew what this was gonna happen when we started Legion. We started Legion of Skanks pretty early podcast times.

• 3:04:36Speaker 04

  Fourteen, fourteen years ago.

• 3:04:38Joe Rogan?

  Don't you think even now, sometimes you say things, you're like, ah, I shouldn't have said that.

• 3:04:42Speaker 02

  No, no, unless it's, I don't, I don't, unless it's about a person. Like sometimes it's about people.

• 3:04:47Speaker 04

  That's what we learned. We learned to stop making fun of retarded children on the internet. Cause they have families. Well, we do sometimes, but I've had to apologize to multiple families of mentally handicapped people. Cause we've done bits on the show and I mean, we've gotten into where they, they would come to me and be like, like, what is wrong with you? This is like a child that has like Down syndrome. We're like, we had no idea that they.

• 3:05:07Speaker 02

  But then they get on the phone, Louis, and they're like, I didn't mind. It was funny.

• 3:05:11Joe Rogan?

  The problem is.

• 3:05:12Speaker 02

  Didn't that happen? Didn't someone say to you, are you kidding?

• 3:05:14Speaker 04

  Well, no, the, uh, twice now that happened and both times ended becoming very friendly with the family. They came out to see me at shows. They brought the kid.

• 3:05:22Speaker 02

  Oh, now it's your burden.

• 3:05:23Speaker 04

  Because.

• 3:05:24Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem is like you're saying things with your friends, like you would normally say.

• 3:05:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 3:05:28Joe Rogan?

  But then you don't realize.

• 3:05:29Speaker 02

  Ron Banington calls it corner talk. Just corner talk with the guy.

• 3:05:32Speaker 04

  But there's a real person on the end of these stories sometimes. And that's the thing, the only thing that's changed is I think in the beginning, we would just say whatever. There'd be a silly story. And now I'm going like, well, all right, is this person gonna hear this? And it's just a normal person who's like, their parents are raising a special needs kid. This is a tough enough life as it is.

• 3:05:47Speaker 02

  Buddy, I felt terrible. Last time I came in here, when you talked about, I was like, hey, you know, there's that video going around of that girl freaking out. And I was just going like, yeah, it's just like, she wasn't ready for this moment, but I went, didn't say the name on purpose. And there's so many videos on the internet. They're like, Jay takes a shit on this girl. And I'm like, no, it's not what I did.

• 3:06:06Joe Rogan?

  Well, sometimes you say things because you're just talking and then you realize like, God, that other person's gonna hear that. I did that recently and I'd like to apologize to this guy. There's this guy named Flint Dibble, who's an archaeologist and I said, he attacks other archaeologists like Graham Hancock and he says some terrible things, but what I did was very counterproductive. What I said was like, "These weak bitchy men." And I named him. And then he tweeted about it. He said, "I have stage four cancer." And I'm like, "Fucking forgot he had cancer." I didn't mean him physically. I meant his behavior, but it made me feel bad, so.

• 3:06:40Speaker 02

  That guy's got a bitch body that's been taking over cancer.

• 3:06:42Joe Rogan?

  I was wrong. What I said, I shouldn't have said. Sometimes I say things and I just think I'm talking with friends and I realize it's gonna hurt someone's feelings on the other. And it's counterproductive. Like, I'm doing the exact thing I'm accusing him of doing. He's attacking other people. I'm attacking him. It's stupid.

• 3:06:57Speaker 02

  And we can be funny with anything. You don't need to like...

• 3:06:59Joe Rogan?

  But I wasn't even being funny. I was talking to an archaeologist. I just get angry. I got angry at this process that sometimes like, established archaeologists are attacking these people who have legitimate ideas, but I shouldn't have done it that way. And you just...

• 3:07:10Speaker 02

  Archaeology is your one passion?

• 3:07:12Joe Rogan?

  No, it's like, I, you know, I talk about a lot of different things, but I talk too often like I normally talk. Like, sometimes when you're talking about like a serious thing, like, you probably shouldn't insult people. It just, it comes normal. Like, fuck that idiot. You know, like, it comes out.

• 3:07:30Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 3:07:30Joe Rogan?

  And you go, "Ah."

• 3:07:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:07:32Joe Rogan?

  Shouldn't have, you know?

• 3:07:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, we do that all the time.

• 3:07:34Joe Rogan?

  You get loose. You get a little too, uh, comfortable.

• 3:07:38Speaker 02

  Well, can I tell you also, that's the smart move I said that Howard Stern did years ago, that I'm trying to get better at and do. When you think something's ridiculous, praise it and then use it and you can show everybody without having to make fun of it themselves. Do you know what I mean?

• 3:07:52Joe Rogan?

  Oh, right, right, right.

• 3:07:52Speaker 02

  To make fun of themselves. That was the core.

• 3:07:54Joe Rogan?

  You could definitely do that. Well, I do that sometimes when I'm questioning people and I know they're not telling me the truth. And I'll say, "Wait a minute. So what you're saying is..." And so I don't even have to like say, "That's ridiculous."

• 3:08:04Speaker 02

  You're just acknowledging, yeah.

• 3:08:06Joe Rogan?

  I just let the internet have it.

• 3:08:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, you go, "Really?"

• 3:08:09Joe Rogan?

  You know what I mean? Like, Epstein didn't kill himself? You know, like, that kind of a deal? Like, okay. You know, like, let the internet deal with this. I'm not gonna deal with this. This is like, I could only be so, uh, pushy. You know, when people don't wanna talk about a specific thing or wanna give you an answer that you think is pretty much gaslighting you. You're like, "Okay. So that's a real UFO? All right." You know, I have people coming here all the time that I know are bullshitting me. I know they are. Like, I, I feel it, you know, and sometimes it's just like, alright. You just, what are you gonna do?

• 3:08:42Speaker 02

  You'll call them sometimes.

• 3:08:43Joe Rogan?

  Sometimes, but like, sometimes I don't know.

• 3:08:45Speaker 02

  Who was the guy years ago you had an argument with, but it was, again, sometimes when vernacular causes the problem? I feel like at the time you were just like in a rhythm of saying the word bitch at the end of a sentence a lot. And you said something, you go, you're like, come on bitch, you can't think that way bitch. And he was like, you're calling me a bitch a lot, you're bullying the shit out of me.

• 3:09:01Joe Rogan?

  Who was that?

• 3:09:02Speaker 02

  Was it Crowder?

• 3:09:03Joe Rogan?

  Oh, yeah, that's right. We were, it was a weed conversation, yeah.

• 3:09:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:09:07Joe Rogan?

  I thought I was talking to him like a comedian, like he would just go along with it and he got genuinely offended.

• 3:09:13Speaker 02

  He was like, you keep calling me a bitch and I feel like you're bullying me.

• 3:09:15Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, we said we were bullying him because we were like researching information live that was countering what he was saying. It was trying, and he didn't have access to it, I was like, alright. You know, whatever.

• 3:09:26Speaker 02

  So he's being a real bitch?

• 3:09:28Joe Rogan?

  I was trying to be a good host and I wasn't, and I was being too like a comic. Like, I could talk to you that way and we would have fun, I could talk to you that way, we would have fun. He wasn't, he was a little serious.

• 3:09:38Speaker 02

  Shit, you can call those bitch all day.

• 3:09:39Joe Rogan?

  That's the problem with some people just get-

• 3:09:40Speaker 02

  Off on this guy.

• 3:09:41Speaker 04

  If you're choking me while I jerk off, you can call me whatever you want.

• 3:09:43Joe Rogan?

  Some people just get serious and you don't realize they're serious, like, oh, you're serious, like, you're really upset. Okay, because we're so used to talking shit, it's so normal.

• 3:09:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:09:53Joe Rogan?

  Like, when people talk shit about me, I'm like, eh, I would do that. What am I gonna do?

• 3:09:57Speaker 04

  Is it too famous to not, you can't get offended? You're, you're so big at this point that it's just part of the territory.

• 3:10:03Joe Rogan?

  That's part of the problem with saying things like about that Flint Dibble guy, you don't think about it while you're saying it. Like, you're saying it to millions of people.

• 3:10:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:10:10Joe Rogan?

  It's like, it's not just talking, you know, and you're like, ah.

• 3:10:12Speaker 02

  Guy's dusting off a raptor bone and you just see a tear hit it because he's listening to you in his headphones? That guy's a dumb idiot.

• 3:10:17Joe Rogan?

  I genuinely felt bad.

• 3:10:19Speaker 02

  My raptor bone.

• 3:10:20Joe Rogan?

  But it's like, I actually didn't have a bad time talking to him. We had to confront him on this one thing because he accused Graham Hancock of being attached to white supremacy and, and, and this like weird thing about Atlantis, like, wow, how does that have anything, like, and he tried to deny it. And we pulled up the quote that he did.

• 3:10:37Speaker 02

  Because Hancock says, no blacks in Atlantis.

• 3:10:39Joe Rogan?

  No, this is like this thing that these people do when they try to discredit things, like certain academics will do. Connect what you're doing to racism or homophobia, they're just trying to like virtue signal their way into a position where everything you're doing is wrong. And it's the, the thing about Atlantis is a weird one. It's like it's apparently at one point in time, there was some white supremacist that like was pushing the theory of Atlantis being this great white race, but that's not what any of the people that are legitimately trying to research it think.

• 3:11:09Speaker 04

  Well, you think-

• 3:11:10Joe Rogan?

  They think it was in Sub-Saharan Africa.

• 3:11:12Speaker 04

  You think black people are gonna let their hair be wet all the time? I'm no archaeologist, but I am a bitch.

• 3:11:18Joe Rogan?

  What do you think Atlantis is? You think they get in the water?

• 3:11:21Speaker 04

  Oh, isn't it the underwater-

• 3:11:22Joe Rogan?

  No.

• 3:11:23Speaker 04

  The lost city of Atlantis. Yeah, what an idiot, right? I didn't think that either, Joe.

• 3:11:26Speaker 02

  Uh, what were we talking about, the Bahamas?

• 3:11:27Joe Rogan?

  Atlantis, they believe was this structure, there was a series of concentric circles that had like a lake running through it. It's like, really fascinating, cause there's this place called the Richard Structure in South Africa, and this is another one of those things that archaeologists will argue about. Because this thing looks like Atlantis, and there's this guy named Jimmy Corsetti, and he gets labeled a Nazi for talking about it. It's like weird stuff, man, where they try to make you look like you're racist for pursuing this idea.

• 3:11:56Speaker 04

  And the people who defend that, if you defend a person for-

• 3:11:58Joe Rogan?

  You're defending racism.

• 3:11:59Speaker 04

  You're defending racism. It becomes this whole stupid argument that nobody really believes, and it only exists on the internet.

• 3:12:05Joe Rogan?

  Exactly.

• 3:12:06Speaker 04

  And nobody in real life gives a shit.

• 3:12:07Joe Rogan?

  In academia, they, they believe it. And if they don't believe it, they use it as a tool. And they'll use it as a tool to dismiss you. But this is the, one of the things that came up during that cop topic, that when even archaeologists come up with a new timeline for things, where it throws the old history into a, a tizzy, they attack them. Like, and they, we, Graham Hancock brought up this concept of Clovis first. They used to think that the Clovis people, like 13,000 years ago, were the first people in North America. And this one guy found evidence of people that lived a long time ago, and they fucking ruthlessly destroyed his career, they attacked this guy. And it turned out he was right. And they found these footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, they're 22,000 years old of human beings. So they were probably living here even before that.

• 3:12:50Joe Rogan?

  And, but they destroy people that come up with an idea that throws their expertise into question. And that's what they're, they're all doing with Graham Hancock. They, what they do is, he's pointing out that there's some real evidence that perhaps there was an advanced civilization that was thousands of years older than we think civilization started at.

• 3:13:09Speaker 02

  No crime and only three pointers.

• 3:13:11Joe Rogan?

  Ah, well, it is in Africa. That's the fascinating thing. It's all in Africa. Egypt's in Africa. You know, this, all this Sub-Saharan stuff where they think the Richard structure. Let me show, show them what it looks like. It's crazy because the area when you zoom out looks like it was hit with a massive flood. Like, everything looked like all water erosion, like it was like massive amounts of water just destroyed the landscape. It still looks like that today. And it's in the exact same plate. Like, it's, it's, the mountains are north of it, the sea's below it. That's what it looks like. And that is like this size that Atlantis is described in, in Plato's recollections of it, or Plato's stories about it. You know, there's a lot of debate about it, but the position that it's in and the

• 3:13:55Joe Rogan?

  weirdness of what it is makes a bunch of these ancient history guys that really believe in Atlantis, just like they really believed in Troy. They thought it was, they thought Troy was mythical until they found it. And then they're like, oh geez, Troy was a real thing. So, um, there's a lot of these people that are the gatekeepers of academia and they, they don't want anything to be dated older than what they've established and what they've taught in lectures and.

• 3:14:25Speaker 02

  Oh, because everything's wrong, then?

• 3:14:27Joe Rogan?

  Everything's wrong. Well, everything is wrong. There's weird stuff like Lebanon. Have you seen those, those fucking stones in Lebanon?

• 3:14:34Speaker 02

  No.

• 3:14:35Joe Rogan?

  Um, there, there's these immense, I think they're called the Trilithon stones or the Trillian stones. They're so fucking big. And they're supposed to be, somebody's moved these from a quarry and placed them in place. And you look at them like, how? How, how long ago? And then there's older stuff, there's stuff that's built on top of it. Look at the size of these fucking stones.

• 3:14:56Speaker 02

  My Flintstone theory works here, but I think it's a brontosaurus that a man is controlling.

• 3:14:59Joe Rogan?

  Balbeck, that's what it is. Look at the size of these fucking stones. And if that one up in, uh, the top in the center, right to the right of that, Jamie, that one. So, that shows you the size of these fucking stones that are in place. Like, if you put a person next to them, they'd be at, like, these are five meters high. That's fucking bananas, man.

• 3:15:17Speaker 02

  How many miles per hour is that?

• 3:15:18Joe Rogan?

  I don't know. I mean, it's twenty-five feet. So those are twenty-five feet high. Fifteen. Oh, sorry. Three. It's three. Right. Yeah. Sorry. My math sucks, obviously. But these stones weigh some fucking insane amount. And there's no explanation. Those cornerstones, that's all one giant piece. And where? How? How the fuck did you do that? And there's a bunch of shit in Malta. They found Neanderthal bones, so maybe Neanderthals were in Malta, and maybe the land bridge was connected, and there's all this confusion about the date of these like ancient structures, because it seems like people built other structures on top of them. And when they find stuff like this, there's like this great resistance of anybody to try to like say they don't understand it.

• 3:16:00Joe Rogan?

  They always try to come up with some sort of an explanation, even when it doesn't make any fucking sense.

• 3:16:05Speaker 04

  Wasn't the, uh, the Colosseum, wasn't it completely underground at one point? They, they discovered it?

• 3:16:10Joe Rogan?

  No, no, no, no. The, the Sphinx was underground. This, but the head was above it, and then they cleared out the sand. The Colosseum was-

• 3:16:17Speaker 02

  You came off stupid as shit there.

• 3:16:18Speaker 04

  No, I-

• 3:16:18Joe Rogan?

  I don't think it was underground. No. No, the Colosseum has always been there, but they did used to be able to get water in it. They used to have water fights.

• 3:16:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:16:26Joe Rogan?

  They had boat fights in there.

• 3:16:26Speaker 04

  It was crazy.

• 3:16:27Joe Rogan?

  Bro, imagine-

• 3:16:28Speaker 04

  Really cool shit.

• 3:16:29Joe Rogan?

  Watching people get eaten by lions in front of everybody. Imagine what that was like.

• 3:16:33Speaker 04

  Well, back then, you understand, they didn't like, they would have these games, and they would bring in like, like, you know, they would have like hunts, and they would have like animal fights and shit like that. But it's like, back then, to see a giraffe, it looked like an alien. Like, they didn't, they, they had no idea what, they would bring in animals from Africa, like rhinoceroses.

• 3:16:48Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, these people didn't have YouTube. They weren't traveling.

• 3:16:50Speaker 04

  They had no idea. It was like, it literally, like you're watching aliens fight.

• 3:16:53Joe Rogan?

  Have you been to the Colosseum?

• 3:16:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was incredible.

• 3:16:55Joe Rogan?

  Did you see those things where they lift them up to the floor and then the lions will pop out?

• 3:16:58Speaker 04

  A whole, a whole, oh, they had underground, underground, they have a whole pulley system, where like they have elevators and they would have slaves like pulling people up, and it was a whole show. It was a really cool thing.

• 3:17:07Speaker 02

  I appreciate you saying slaves lower.

• 3:17:09Joe Rogan?

  If they had that right now, if they had that right now, we would watch it.

• 3:17:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:17:12Joe Rogan?

  If there's something on YouTube, like I've already seen, have you seen the night fights? Where guys dress up in armor and beat the fuck out of giraffes?

• 3:17:18Speaker 02

  Harrington, Harrington does the, uh-

• 3:17:20Speaker 04

  He does the commentary for it. He's like the Joe Rogan of night fighting.

• 3:17:23Joe Rogan?

  That's so ridiculous, dude.

• 3:17:25Speaker 04

  Ah, shit.

• 3:17:26Joe Rogan?

  They hit each other with battle axes and shit.

• 3:17:28Speaker 02

  Oh, a scepter strike to the leg.

• 3:17:31Speaker 04

  But it's like, they look tough, and then they take their helmets off and they're just fucking virgins. It's like, these, these really nerdy fat dudes.

• 3:17:37Speaker 02

  Preemptive balling, balling people.

• 3:17:38Joe Rogan?

  Some of them know how to fight, though. I've seen ones where guys take guys down, leg kick them.

• 3:17:42Speaker 04

  They're MMA guys that are getting into it. It's just another like outlet. Another outlet.

• 3:17:46Speaker 05

  Part, part of the floor of the Colosseum was buried until the mid 19th century.

• 3:17:51Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you were right. There you go.

• 3:17:52Speaker 04

  I knew, yeah.

• 3:17:53Joe Rogan?

  One floor, so the hypogeenium floor, lay buried under 40 feet of earth. All memory of its function even existed. What is, is that the floor that lifts up? Is that what that is?

• 3:18:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, the floor, there was stuff sticking out of it and then they went and they, they uncovered that there was like an entire underground system, like all this shit.

• 3:18:12Joe Rogan?

  Oh, all that was underground?

• 3:18:14Speaker 04

  It was actually really, all really recent.

• 3:18:14Joe Rogan?

  So did someone cover it up? Well, did you go back to that description, Jamie? Because I think it explained that someone covered it up.

• 3:18:20Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, they destroyed most of Rome, so I'm sure it was part of it.

• 3:18:23Joe Rogan?

  I wonder why they did that?

• 3:18:25Speaker 05

  They were using all this shit for other stuff.

• 3:18:26Speaker 04

  The tour that I did of the Colosseum was boring as shit.

• 3:18:28Speaker 02

  Mussolini fixed it. The guy wasn't all bad.

• 3:18:32Joe Rogan?

  What were you saying, Jamie? What'd you say?

• 3:18:33Speaker 05

  They were using the other pieces of the city for construction or whatever else they were building, new stuff, you know? Same with like the, the pyramids.

• 3:18:40Speaker 02

  People shit on Mussolini.

• 3:18:41Joe Rogan?

  That's horrible.

• 3:18:42Speaker 02

  They go, Mussolini, what a monster. I go, clean the floor of the Colosseum.

• 3:18:45Joe Rogan?

  They did that with the pyramids. They stole the fucking stones from the outside of it.

• 3:18:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, we.

• 3:18:49Joe Rogan?

  People are so gross.

• 3:18:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's crazy. Well, remember the Trevi Fountain a few years ago in Rome? They, they poured like black ink in it or something, just protesters?

• 3:18:57Joe Rogan?

  Ah.

• 3:18:58Speaker 04

  It was like, and they literally had to drain the fountain and it took like however many months to clean it. It was fucked up.

• 3:19:04Joe Rogan?

  The Colosseum architects made changes to allow new methods of stagecraft. Other changes were accidental. Fire sparked by lightning in 217 AD gutted the stadium, sent huge blocks of travertine plunging into the hypogeenium.

• 3:19:16Speaker 04

  What?

• 3:19:17Joe Rogan?

  That whole area was so nuts, man.

• 3:19:18Speaker 04

  217?

• 3:19:19Speaker 05

  That's a lot of words.

• 3:19:19Speaker 02

  How do they have those facts?

• 3:19:21Speaker 04

  Colosseum was really cool. I learned more about it. I did a, like a gladiator training program with my son. They like, it was like a little like place you went and I learned so much about the Colosseum doing that, more than the tour. The tour was boring as shit. I went in like August, it was 110 degrees out. It was insane.

• 3:19:36Speaker 02

  He's aggressively trying to make his son straight.

• 3:19:42Speaker 04

  But that was, that was a cool experience, like.

• 3:19:45Joe Rogan?

  It's fucking cool as shit, man.

• 3:19:47Speaker 04

  They didn't kill each other, the gladiators, like, that's all like lore, that's all lies. It was none of, because it was like pro wrestlers. If your gladiator killed another gladiator, the, uh, the guy who owned that gladiator would have to pay the other guy who owned that gladiator, they were all slaves. It was all just show, it was like pro wrestling. They would cut each other, but they had like big, like fat bellies, so they wouldn't cut each other's organs. They do how to like do it in a certain way, it was all show.

• 3:20:10Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 3:20:10Speaker 04

  It did happen once in a while, but that was more rare when you see an actual death.

• 3:20:14Joe Rogan?

  So occasionally they would fight for real to the death?

• 3:20:17Speaker 04

  I don't even, yeah, I'm sure occasionally they did.

• 3:20:19Joe Rogan?

  Where did you get all this information?

• 3:20:20Speaker 04

  From my gladiator training program.

• 3:20:21Joe Rogan?

  Really?

• 3:20:22Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:20:23Speaker 02

  The guy's certified.

• 3:20:26Speaker 02

  I mean, what are you gonna do, argue?

• 3:20:27Speaker 04

  But like, like the different weapons and the costumes they would wear and like the type of armor they would wear is like, there was like, you know, whatever, like, you know, a couple dozen different types of guys. And like, oh, that's the guy with the fucking mace and like a certain helmet. And it was like, uh, it was free as well, all the people in Rome, there wasn't a ticket price. The government would sponsor it, so it was just to get people like, you know, keep them happy and fucking, the richer you were, the closer you were, like all the peasants would be up in the rafters.

• 3:20:53Joe Rogan?

  Right.

• 3:20:54Speaker 04

  But, uh.

• 3:20:55Joe Rogan?

  So the movie Gladiator is bullshit, is that what you're trying to tell me?

• 3:20:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, a lot of it's bullshit, there was no thumbs down, thumbs up.

• 3:21:00Joe Rogan?

  What? What? A common misconception that gladiators always fought to the death. The winner survived and the loser died, very rarely, and usually with special dispensation from the emperor, would there be, uh, sign miso battles, which automatically meant death for the loser, with no chance of being spared. So occasionally, they died.

• 3:21:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:21:18Joe Rogan?

  Very rarely, they died.

• 3:21:20Speaker 04

  But they were like celebrities, like the gladiators would come out and they were like.

• 3:21:24Joe Rogan?

  Wow, some historians say, oh, wait a minute, one in five died in battle. That's a lot, others say one in 10. Most only lived to their mid twenties, which compared to today's average.

• 3:21:34Speaker 04

  Well, they would die of their injuries very often, not be, it wasn't like it was fight to the death, they just didn't have medicine. Like, yeah, they would get stabbed and get infected.

• 3:21:42Speaker 02

  But Gladiator 2 was right though, right?

• 3:21:44Speaker 04

  But that, I mean, when he's talking about the water, they would fill it up with water and have boat fights. That was a real thing in Gladiator 2.

• 3:21:50Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I see, now, now I'm bummed out, I thought they really fought to the death.

• 3:21:53Speaker 04

  Like every time?

• 3:21:54Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:21:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:21:55Speaker 02

  God damn dude, well, I've got bad news about the WWF also. Oh my god, then you know what, I might as well pull the Band-Aid off if we're already here. Wrestling also.

• 3:22:05Speaker 04

  But it was, yeah, it was like akin to pro wrestling, like they would have like personalities and people would like.

• 3:22:10Joe Rogan?

  That was a problem in Japan in the early days of MMA. Some of the fights were fixed.

• 3:22:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:22:15Joe Rogan?

  You could tell. And you could tell like, certain guys would win by leg lock.

• 3:22:19Speaker 02

  That's where you can stomp and shit too, right?

• 3:22:21Speaker 04

  They'd have professional wrestler, like promoters do those MMA fights.

• 3:22:24Joe Rogan?

  What's it say, Jerry?

• 3:22:24Speaker 05

  Just describing the animal hunts they did, but I'll skip ahead to this part here.

• 3:22:29Joe Rogan?

  Hybrigen played a vital role in these staged hunts, allowing animals and hunters to enter the arena countless ways. Eyewitnesses describe how animals appeared suddenly from below as if by magic. Sometimes apparently launched high into the air. The Hybrigen allowed the organizers of the game to create surprises and build suspense. A hunter in the arena wouldn't know where the next lion would appear. Or whether two or three lions might emerge instead of one.

• 3:22:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, out of those like trap doors in the bottom, a lion would just jump out and then, and you're watching a dude like hunt lions. How cool is that though?

• 3:23:03Joe Rogan?

  This uncertainty could be exploited for comic effect.

• 3:23:07Speaker 02

  He goes, guys, I'm not afraid of no bullshit ass lion. I fuck a lion. He's right behind me, isn't he?

• 3:23:12Joe Rogan?

  Emperor Galenius punished a merchant who had swindled the emperor selling her glass jewels instead of authentic ones. By setting him in the arena to face a ferocious lion. When the cage opened however, a chicken walked out to the delight of the cloud, the crowd. Galenius then told the herald to proclaim, he practiced deceit and then had it practiced on him. The emperor let the jeweler go home. Whoa. So they let people, so it wasn't that mean?

• 3:23:37Speaker 02

  Killed him days later.

• 3:23:38Joe Rogan?

  They were less mean than we thought.

• 3:23:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:23:40Joe Rogan?

  Yeah.

• 3:23:40Speaker 04

  It was still pretty brutal.

• 3:23:42Joe Rogan?

  Well, it was fucking brutal time to be alive back then, man.

• 3:23:45Speaker 02

  Dude, one in five got to live. Relax.

• 3:23:47Joe Rogan?

  One in ten, maybe one in ten.

• 3:23:49Speaker 02

  Maybe even one in ten. No big whoop.

• 3:23:51Joe Rogan?

  Bet a lot of dudes were sliced up, though. You ever see those Nazi dueling scars where the Nazis in the, like, when they were in, like, military school, they would have duels with sword fights and their faces would get slashed up and that was like their badge of courage. So all the Nazis that came over for NASA, they all have these like crazy Nazi dueling scars.

• 3:24:11Speaker 02

  All over their faces?

• 3:24:12Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you ever see those?

• 3:24:13Speaker 02

  Mm-mm.

• 3:24:13Joe Rogan?

  Bro, it's so creepy.

• 3:24:14Speaker 05

  They do the shit we do now in arenas, too, with like t-shirt guns.

• 3:24:17Joe Rogan?

  Ahhh!

• 3:24:18Speaker 05

  Snacks fell from the sky.

• 3:24:20Joe Rogan?

  Snacks. "As abundantly as hail," one observer noted, "along with wooden balls containing tokens for prizes, food, money, even the title to an apartment, which sometimes set off violent scuffles amongst spectators struggling to grab them."

• 3:24:32Speaker 02

  Nothing changes today.

• 3:24:33Joe Rogan?

  Nothing.

• 3:24:34Speaker 02

  There used to be a blimp that would go around the Sixers Stadium and drop coupons for Hers potato chips, and I've seen people fall off of balconies for them.

• 3:24:41Joe Rogan?

  It was as hot as a boiler room in the summer, humid and cold in the winter, and filled all year round with strong smells from the smoke, sweating workmen packed in the narrow corridors, and the reek of the wild animals.

• 3:24:52Speaker 05

  And no bathrooms and all that.

• 3:24:53Joe Rogan?

  Ugh. Did people just shit into holes?

• 3:24:56Speaker 05

  Well, they always did, you know? Where would you go if you're hot and you're drunk?

• 3:24:59Joe Rogan?

  And everybody's got the plague. Alright, boys, should we wrap this bitch up?

• 3:25:03Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 3:25:03Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, let's bring it home.

• 3:25:05Speaker 02

  Thank you so much. Are we officially in the Rogansphere now?

• 3:25:07Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, you're in.

• 3:25:08Speaker 02

  Oh, thank God, dude.

• 3:25:09Joe Rogan?

  You were always in.

• 3:25:09Speaker 02

  Alright, you said it here, so we're here.

• 3:25:11Joe Rogan?

  You were always in. What the fuck are you talking about? We just don't see each other enough.

• 3:25:13Speaker 02

  Please watch my specials.

• 3:25:15Joe Rogan?

  Yes, yes. They're awesome. Anything you got?

• 3:25:18Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah, check out, it's mine and Big Jay's new podcast, Story Warz, which is great. And, uh, yeah, I got a book, actually. You know what I'm?

• 3:25:24Joe Rogan?

  You wrote a book?

• 3:25:24Speaker 04

  I'm writing, I'm almost done with it. It's coming out December 2nd. It's pre-sale right now on Amazon.

• 3:25:29Joe Rogan?

  What's it about?

• 3:25:29Speaker 04

  It's, uh, my childhood memoir.

• 3:25:31Joe Rogan?

  Oh, wow.

• 3:25:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, it starts off with the-

• 3:25:33Joe Rogan?

  What made you want to do that?

• 3:25:34Speaker 04

  Uh, a dude who wrote other books was like-

• 3:25:36Joe Rogan?

  Knives and spoons.

• 3:25:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:25:38Joe Rogan?

  A memoir.

• 3:25:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was like, "Hey dude, I can get you a book deal." And I was like, "Really?" And then I started working with him on it and, yeah, it's just, it's been good. It's dark, it's funny, it's fucked up. It's about just my fucked up childhood and finding comedy.

• 3:25:49Joe Rogan?

  I always admire someone who can write a book.

• 3:25:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:25:51Joe Rogan?

  Like, I always admired Norton. He's written a couple of books. I'm like, "Damn, he wrote a whole bu-" like, actually wrote a book.

• 3:25:56Speaker 04

  Noren's a man. Noren's in town right now.

• 3:25:57Joe Rogan?

  Yeah, yeah. He's here, uh, Friday.

• 3:25:59Speaker 04

  He's doing Story Warz tonight.

• 3:26:01Joe Rogan?

  Nice. Where are you guys? You guys at the Creek?

• 3:26:04Speaker 04

  No, we're at your club.

• 3:26:04Joe Rogan?

  Oh, you're at my club?

• 3:26:05Speaker 04

  It's a little Joe knows about his own club.

• 3:26:07Joe Rogan?

  What time is it?

• 3:26:08Speaker 02

  This is our path.

• 3:26:08Speaker 04

  7:30 and 10:30. Why don't you come, Joe? Why don't you come on Story Warz?

• 3:26:11Joe Rogan?

  Oh, I don't have any good stories. I've used them all up. I've had 2,500 fucking episodes. I've used them all up.

• 3:26:18Speaker 04

  You don't need good stories. I'll tell you all.

• 3:26:20Speaker 02

  It's gonna be something goes, "Once on an archaeology journey." I'm like, "Oh, this is Joe. This is definitely Joe, I think." I think this one's Joe.

• 3:26:27Speaker 04

  One time I was talking to the director of the CIA. He's like, "Well, that must be Joe."

• 3:26:30Speaker 02

  Took out a black bear from a helicopter with a crossbow.

• 3:26:35Joe Rogan?

  I appreciate you guys.

• 3:26:36Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 3:26:36Joe Rogan?

  It was a lot of fun. Thank you. Alright, bye everybody.

• 3:26:52Speaker 02

  Welcome to the 50th Hunger Games. Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 3:26:57Speaker 06

  Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 3:27:00Speaker 02

  Filmed for IMAX.

• 3:27:01Speaker 06

  Make them remember you.

• 3:27:04Speaker 02

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Weeping, November 20th, rated PG-13.

• 3:27:09Speaker 01

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• 3:27:15Speaker 01

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