Why I Gave My AI Access to Everything Feat. Peter Diamandis

He named his AI, "Skippy". He gave it access to his iMessages, his emails, every conversation he has. And he says it's the smartest thing he's ever done. Every time Peter Diamandis comes on this show, downloads go through the roof. There's a reason for that. He doesn't just talk about the future. He's building it. Peter brings something to this conversation that almost no one else on earth can: a front-row seat to where the world is actually going, backed by 28 companies, decades of relationships with Elon Musk, Larry Page, Eric Schmidt, and the architects of AI, and the kind of credibility that only comes from being right about the future over and over again. In this conversation, Peter lays out his clearest vision yet of the next decade: ambient AI that knows your schedule before you do, a billion humanoid robots on the streets within ten years, the reversal of aging becoming a clinical reality, and the democratization of health care that will save more lives than any drug ever has. He also doesn't soften the turbulence that comes first, a 2-to-8-year window of real social and economic disruption that most people are completely unprepared for. I push him on the things people are afraid to ask: whether privacy is actually already gone, whether a solopreneur with AI can become a billionaire, and what the difference is between passion and purpose. Here's what you'll gain from this episode: •The 6-Year Storm: Peter's honest prediction for the turbulence ahead, who gets hit hardest, and the one mindset shift that determines whether you come out the other side as a creator or a consumer. •Aging Is About to Become Optional: What longevity escape velocity actually means and how AI could double the human lifespan within ten years. •Passion vs. Purpose: The distinction between passion & purpose, and why getting this wrong is the most expensive mistake a person can make right now. •Privacy Is Already Gone: Peter's most controversial take, why he named his own AI "Skippy" and gave it access to everything, and why the trade-off is about to become the most obvious decision most people have ever made. •The Terminator Future vs. the Star Trek Future: How Hollywood has been programming us for the wrong outcomes with AI, and negatively impacting the future of civilization Stop what you are doing and go watch this episode right now. This is one of those conversations that changes how you see the world. If you run a business with any kind of customer operation, support, sales, or onboarding, you can start with a demo at https://elevenlabs.io/mylett If you have an iPhone, head to https://ladder.fit/MYLETT and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join. See how K12 Powered Schools can help unlock your child’s full potential! Enroll online today at https://k12.com/mylett 👉 SUBSCRIBE TO ED'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL NOW 👈⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ → → → CONNECT WITH ED MYLETT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: ← ← ← ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INSTAGRAM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FACEBOOK⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LINKEDIN⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ➡️ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠WEBSITE⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 1:35Speaker 02

  This is the Ed Mylott Show.

• 1:39Ed Mylett?

  All right, welcome back to the show, everybody. So this man is back on his mom's favorite podcast today. The Ed Mylott Show. First person I thought of this morning was not my guests, not my kids, not my family. I thought about his mom because our show is his favorite podcast.

• 1:55Peter Diamandis

  You know, it's so great. My mom is like, I heard you on Ed Mylott's podcast. It's like, that made me a hero.

• 2:02Ed Mylett?

  Not, not the fact that you've changed the world multiple times, the fact that you've been on our show. But I gotta tell you guys something. For me, you know, there's unicorn companies and then there's very rarely unicorn humans. Peter's a unicorn and he's brilliant. He's, you guys, every time he's on, the downloads go through the roof. He's an entrepreneur. I guess he's a futurist. He's a physician. He's an investor. He's a guy who's got his pulse on what's happening in the world as it change at light speed. And he is the guy that I go to to figure out where we're all going as a species. And we're going to do a little bit of that today. He's got a book that you should go get called We Are As Gods, which we'll talk about today. He's obviously the founder of the X Prize as well. We'll touch on that. This

• 2:44Ed Mylett?

  is going to be a ride for the next 55 minutes. You guys are going to love with Peter Diamandis. Welcome back to the show, young man.

• 2:51Peter Diamandis

  A pleasure to be here, pal. A pleasure to be here.

• 2:53Ed Mylett?

  Great to have you. Okay, I want to start with a crazy question first. Okay?

• 2:56Peter Diamandis

  Yep.

• 2:57Ed Mylett?

  My son wanted me to ask you this. So let's start, let's go way out there.

• 3:00Peter Diamandis

  Most important, yes.

• 3:01Ed Mylett?

  What prediction do you have about the next 10 years? Here's a tough one. That most people will think is crazy, but you actually think is going to happen over the next decade?

• 3:12Peter Diamandis

  Wow. So there's, it's a great question and thank your son for it. There are so many. First of all, in the next 10 years, we are going to learn how to fundamentally reverse aging. We're on the verge of this so-called longevity escape velocity where for every year that you're alive, your life gets longer by a year, your health span, your longevity. And that's going to be incredible, incredible future, one where aging becomes somewhat optional. We're learning and understanding that. In the next 10 years, we're likely to have a billion

• 3:52Peter Diamandis

  humanoid robots roaming the planet where you are on the streets, you're in offices, you look around and you've got almost as many humans or robots as you have humans. These robots are going to start to enter into our world. Probably in the next 10 years for your son, we're going to see as many autonomous vehicles or more autonomous vehicles on the road than cars. Right now, here in Santa Monica, when my kids and I are out and about, we'll count the number of Waymos out there. And there are, you know, probably in a half hour time, we'll see 10 or 12, 15 Waymos. But it's just the beginning. There're going to be probably

• 4:34Peter Diamandis

  five to 10 electric autonomous rideshare companies on the streets from cybercabs to to projects that Uber has going. Probably in the next 10 years, you're going to have what I call ambient AI. AI is always on around you, making your life automagical. Before you walk into a room, your AI knows if you're depressed or sad and it changes the music for you. Maybe on the TV screen, your favorite comedian comes up. Your AI is like knowing that you're walking in a particular direction to get someplace and it says, hey, there's

• 5:14Peter Diamandis

  a set of stairs over there. Take the stairs instead of the elevator. Or your AI is telling you, listen, or not telling you, not telling you anything. It's, it's telling the humanoid robot in your kitchen that Peter needs more protein and more water and more vitamin D. So let's change the, what you're serving him for lunch. So the world becomes automatic and magical in this fashion, right? So much, you know, AI today is something you use on your computer or on your phone and you have to go to it. In the near future, it is, I said ambient, it's enabling you always. And we can start to dream at a much higher level

• 5:59Peter Diamandis

  than ever before. Our ambitions can scale. Our desires can scale. Anyway, so a lot, and I also think that the economy is going to go through the roof and we can talk about that.

• 6:13Ed Mylett?

  Wow. Number one, you know, you, I got to know you enough over the last few years. You're an optimist, I think by nature. And so when I've asked you that question, it was a lot of bubble gums and rainbows right there and very exciting. Same time, my son, who asked that question, you know, he's getting into his mid twenties now, a couple of years out of college. And I noticed this last year, Peter, at the college graduations, I don't know if you've seen these clips.

• 6:38Peter Diamandis

  I have.

• 6:39Ed Mylett?

  Any of the people giving the commencement addresses brought up AIs. It was AI. I mean, the crowd just, the kids started booing.

• 6:44Peter Diamandis

  Or Eric Schmidt. I mean, I know Eric well.

• 6:46Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, I do. I know Eric as well. And so the boos rang all over the place. Every single time AI came up in one of these, at least that I saw. And so that tells me there's a lot of trepidation and worry at people that are in that entering the labor force. This is a generic question. I know, I don't want you to answer it this way. I want you to dig deep in that brain of yours. What advice really would you give someone that's at 22, 24, 25? Here's the industries that will exist and will flourish. And here's the ones that aren't going anywhere and are probably going to go away.

• 7:17Peter Diamandis

  Really important to me and something I've dedicated a good amount of my life to, to understanding and addressing. I mean, my, my innermost purpose is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs and humanity to create a hopeful, compelling vision for the future. So first of all, it's really important that anybody from my 15 year old boys to your 20 something year old son. How old is your son?

• 7:43Ed Mylett?

  24.

• 7:44Peter Diamandis

  24. To find a purpose that I think that's the single most important. So I teach a lot about mindsets. I think mindset's the most important thing you have. Your mindset determines how you deal with a challenge or how you deal with an opportunity. And the mindsets required for this next decade fundamentally are purpose-driven mindset and a curiosity mindset. A purpose, what is a purpose? So a passion is something you love doing. A purpose is something you love doing that helps other people. Right? And so when I, you know, you don't have to have one purpose for all of your life. Your purpose can change over time. You can layer it. My first purpose was opening up the space frontier. You know,

• 8:26Peter Diamandis

  that launched zero G space adventures, the X Prize Foundation, a whole bunch of companies of how do we make humanity multi-planetary? My purpose of late has been how do we navigate the next 10 years? Because while I believe we're going to have incredible future abundance elements I just discussed a minute ago, I also believe we're going to have a rough patch over the next two to eight years. And a lot of that comes from fear about the future. I'll come back to that in a moment. But if someone can find their purpose and they can maintain a curiosity mindset, the greatest educator in the world is your AI. Any of the large language models that you can chat with, you can learn anything. But if you

• 9:11Peter Diamandis

  have a purpose, like I, I really want to solve this problem. I really want to create this future. That purpose is your guiding star. It's what drives you. It what wakes you up in the morning and has you going through the rest of the day. You and I are so lucky that we have a purpose in all that we do. We love doing it, right? It's joyful. It gives us energy. If, if someone can find their purpose and you find your purpose by, by being around other people, by, by, you know, thinking about what would I, what would I spend the day doing if I had, I could do anything, you know, what gives me the greatest excitement? And how do I connect that with helping other people? The ability to help

• 9:54Peter Diamandis

  people, right? I like to say that the world's biggest problems are the world's biggest business opportunities. Want to become a billionaire? Help a billion people. These alignments are so there. So if you can find your purpose, it will be your rocket fuel. And curiosity is like, oh, okay, how would I do that? So, you know, I don't, my podcast, Moon Shots, has done very well, not as, as great as, as your incredible podcast has done. An honor to be here with you. And I talk about the fact that anybody can be an entrepreneur and people push back on that. But if you are able, you know, the old, so the old social contract was do well in high school, get to good college, get a degree

• 10:37Peter Diamandis

  and go get a job. And there's a lot of evidence, and this is why Eric Schmidt's getting booed and others are getting booed at the commencement addresses, that that paradigm is cooked.

• 10:49Peter Diamandis

  That, you know, going and getting a job, which is really the industrial revolution's way of we need factory workers, we need people who can do these jobs for us. Instead, if you can find your purpose, you can find a problem that you care about solving and you can build a solution for it. So I just launched, I was at Google I O, their big event of the year, last week, in fact, and we launched something called the Build with Gemini X Prize. It's the largest hackathon in the world and it's meant to be a hackathon for non-coders. It's meant to, so here's what you have to do.

• 11:30Peter Diamandis

  You can go to geminiexprize.com, X P R I Z E, Gemini. And it's $2 million in prize money. You should pick a problem that impacts 100,000 people or more. You know, it should be a reasonably good problem. There are a lot of problems that impact 100,000 people globally. And then in plain English, you should describe, you know, this is what the website should look like, this is what the app should look like, this is the problem I'm trying to solve. And you can use the current agents out there to build a solution. And so the goal here is pick a problem, describe what you want to do to solve it and how you

• 12:15Peter Diamandis

  want to solve it in English. Your agent will code it, then you're going to market it and whoever can generate the most revenue in three months' time will win this. There is a half a million dollar prize, a number of hundred thousand dollar prizes, and then fifteen, $50,000 prizes. And the notion is, again, I want to teach people to take control of their destiny, they have agency. And I, you know, I've had so many people who've written back on my podcast saying, you know, I did what you said. I went and I used my curiosity mindset and I said, this is who I am, this is my skills, this is what I'm doing in life.

• 12:55Peter Diamandis

  I want to build a business that uses my, my passion and, and like, and brainstorming with the AI. And I've had so many people who literally have gone from having no idea what to do to actually coming up with an idea and then be, and then building it. Using AI because it is, it is now at a point where every single human, anywhere, I'll give you the example, I was in Morocco with my family and we were in a small village and we were introduced by the hotel concierge to a young man who was giving e-bike tours of that village.

• 13:35Peter Diamandis

  And he took us around, we stopped for some Moroccan tea at, at his home and started a conversation, how did you start doing this? He goes, well, I came back, I had no income, I got on Chat G P T and I said, these are my skills, this is what I do, can you help me brainstorm something? And this e-bike touring came out of it and it became a really successful business for him. And that is possible for anybody. And I really, I want people to realize they have agency.

• 14:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 14:07Peter Diamandis

  They have agency in the world.

• 14:08Ed Mylett?

  You know, it sounds to me, by the way, two things on that I want to, and we'll keep going back and forth. One is that I've never heard this, and by the way, I've, you know, done four trillion podcasts and read all the books and I never heard someone paint the distinction between passion and purpose like that. There is a difference and I don't even know that I really ever realized it until you just articulated it. That's number one. Number two is this is a time where you really have to take agency over your life. We're going to go back actually to a former time where most people are self-employed and do work for themselves and don't work.

• 14:38Peter Diamandis

  Yes, the job is a recent creation.

• 14:39Ed Mylett?

  Correct, it's the last hundred year creation. People don't realize it, that's right.

• 14:43Peter Diamandis

  500 years ago, or a thousand years, you didn't have a job, you were, you literally, you survived. Sadhguru, I don't know if you know Sadhguru.

• 14:50Ed Mylett?

  I love Sadhguru, he's been on the show, he's a good friend.

• 14:52Peter Diamandis

  Yeah, so I was on a, I was on a stage with him 10 years ago, he said something I never forgot, he go, he said, you know, technology is the means by which humanity takes a vacation from survival. I was like, boom, wow, that's so powerful.

• 15:09Ed Mylett?

  Well, that is powerful. I asked Tim this, so I'll ask you, I asked him this privately. The other, the flip side of what you just said, taking agency, taking initiative for your life and starting to control the direction of it and really losing this concept of dependency on not just government, but also an employer. You're going to have to probably break yourself from that and no one said that on the show until you just said it. The flip side of that, however, is for those that don't, you know, I worry about certain things atrophying as a human species. So for example, I want your opinion on this. I think it's fair to say, and this is a broad stroke, I don't mean this as a criticism, but I think guys, people our age learned how to communicate in interpersonal relationships

• 15:53Ed Mylett?

  because we didn't have devices to text and call and all that. I think that's something that's atrophied with the next generation, their interpersonal communication skills. It's just sort of become weaker as they've used devices to do that for them. Are you concerned about that as an overall problem with AI, meaning people, it's doing everything for you, but we just as people begin to become more and more dependent and our brains begin, literally begin to atrophy because we're not using them as much?

• 16:23Peter Diamandis

  You know, I, I wrote a, I have a Substack that I put out twice a week and I recently put out a newsletter on what I call the five forks splits of humanity. And the first one is what I call the consumer versus creator. And I think people are going to have an option and it's going to be gradation, of course, but there are those who are going to use this incredible technology coming our way to be a consumer where you're sitting back on the couch, your optimist robot is bringing you a beer or, you know, whatever, and you're watching an AI-generated Netflix series

• 17:07Peter Diamandis

  that stars you and your friends on the, you know, on the Starship Enterprise and it's like, literally, you're consuming. And there could be those who are creators, those who use this incredible technology to create whatever they want.

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• 19:24Peter Diamandis

  Right, and so it's, it's the Wally future as the consumer versus the Star Trek future as the creator. And we're going to have to choose and there'll be those that are just happy to sit back and we're going to have some version of universal basic income we can speak about, about.

• 19:40Ed Mylett?

  You're reading my mind, that's my next question. You're reading my mind, keep going.

• 19:44Peter Diamandis

  All right, and, and there are, again, those are the consumers of the technology. It's almost like technological socialism, where not the state is taking care of you, but technology is taking care of you. And then there's the creators who are like, I want to go big, I, this is my purpose in life, how do I do that? How do I build this capability for people? And I'm on a soapbox saying, you have the tools to make your greatest dreams come true. Don't self-limit yourself. Most of us limit what we believe we can do.

• 20:21Ed Mylett?

  Yep. You know, by the way, and that limitation oftentimes has been, some of it's invalid, it's been based on your limited intellect or your limited ability to reach. And now, actually, the more I'm thinking through this, those barriers of entry can be eliminated because of AI.

• 20:36Peter Diamandis

  Totally.

• 20:37Ed Mylett?

  And, and it allows a more average, ordinary person like myself to go build an extraordinary life. You're making me, honestly, I'm actually really thinking about where my messaging needs to go myself and it's certainly, the more I'm talking with you, appears to be that you've got to begin to take agency initiative over your life. And so my next question was this, all the way back to the Milton Friedman days of some sort of guaranteed minimum income has been a concept. Most, by the way, conservatives don't know this, first guy that promoted it was actually a conservative and then it's become more of a kind of, I think, a liberal construct. But now you have guys like, and Peter is one of the few people who truly has been close to Elon Musk, you, you know, you hear him say, probably won't be any jobs in five years or eight years.

• 21:21Ed Mylett?

  What are your thoughts on, do you think we're heading towards an inevitable, some sort of universal basic income? And is that a bad thing if we did?

• 21:30Peter Diamandis

  Yeah, so.

• 21:33Peter Diamandis

  So here's, here's the reality. Uh, my concern is again, this, this turbulent period. My numbers are, you know,

• 21:41Ed Mylett?

  Two to eight years.

• 21:42Peter Diamandis

  Very, very, very soon.

• 21:43Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 21:43Peter Diamandis

  You know, next year, uh, two or two to the next eight years.

• 21:50Peter Diamandis

  And we saw, you know, Sam Altman get a Molotov cocktail and gunshots. We see Eric Schmidt getting booed. And the turbulence will come from young testosterone laden males who can't get a job. Early on, the, the biggest area of unemployment is ages twenty-two to twenty-eight, recent college graduates. Right? You've just spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a degree that is not enabling you to get the job you thought you were going to get. And if you can't afford a car, can't afford a home, can't get married because of that, you're angry. And this is where anger is coming from.

• 22:29Peter Diamandis

  And we're going to see, I think, in this period of, of social unrest, the government is going to have to take some level of action. And what action can they take? It's the equivalent of COVID checks, right? Uh, we saw that a thousand dollars a month being issued by the government. Uh, I think it's likely to be closer to like three thousand dollars a month. As a UBI version, it won't be for everybody, be those who really are in this, uh, period of extremis. When I had Elon and Elon's been a friend for twenty-six years. No matter what you think of him politically, whatever, the guy has built the most extraordinary companies on the planet.

• 23:09Peter Diamandis

  And, uh, I know him well enough to know he loves solving problems. That's his, that's what drives him to create solutions to the world's biggest problems over and over again, on energy, on compute, on opening the space frontier, all of these areas.

• 23:28Peter Diamandis

  And so I had him twice on my moonshots podcast, once in January and recently in March, during my abundance summit. And he said two things. One, we're going to head towards universal high income. Uh, I asked him, how do we do that? And, you know, he had some basic ideas. I've since published a few papers on this. And then he said recently in March that we're going to see, uh, you know, ASI, advanced, you know, artificial superintelligence and humanoid robots.

• 24:02Peter Diamandis

  Creating so much supply of whatever you want. And these are his words, that you could not want enough where AI and technology could not provide that for you. And so what universal high income is not that everybody's becoming, you know, a multi-billionaire. It's that the cost of things are going to begin to plummet. They'll be higher in the near term and, you know, we're going to end up, uh, crushing the existing healthcare system and education system.

• 24:34Ed Mylett?

  Thinking that.

• 24:35Peter Diamandis

  Right? Where the best healthcare in the world will be free. In other words, we, this is the case today that AIs are a much better diagnostician than a human physician. And we talked about this on the podcast as well, that if you need surgery in the future, you know, if you're trying to get the best surgeon, it's expensive. But imagine a future in which the best surgeon in the world is a humanoid robot, which has not seen, you know, ten thousand surgeries during its lifetime. It's seen, uh, you know, ten million surgeries. All of the robots share the memories. So the robot is the most precise, the most capable. And what's the cost of that robot delivering the surgery? It's the cost of electricity.

• 25:16Ed Mylett?

  The energy.

• 25:16Peter Diamandis

  And the capital expense and these robots, the prediction from Brett Adcock at Figure, uh, from Brett, uh, from, uh, uh, from, uh,

• 25:27Peter Diamandis

  Mr. Borneck at, um, at, uh, one X by Elon, that the cost of these robots will be around twenty thousand dollars each, which means you can lease them for three hundred bucks a month, ten dollars a day, under a dollar per hour. So imagine the best surgeons in the world. These robots able to provide the best surgery, whether you're in Botswana or Boston.

• 25:54Peter Diamandis

  We're going to also see the best educators in the world be AIs that knows your child's favorite color, sports star. Their language skills, what they can do, and it creates the perfect educational experience. To help take your child from where they are to another level, driven by purpose, driven by curiosity. Right? So the things that we spend a lot of money on are going to begin to dematerialize. Rather than owning a car, you're going to be chauffeured around by an autonomous vehicle. That's four or five times cheaper than owning a car. So the poorest people are being chauffeured around. Right? And that, that car, you know, you're at breakfast, you take, you step up from the breakfast table, you're heading towards the front door, your AI knows your schedule.

• 26:40Peter Diamandis

  You open the front door of your home and a car pulls in automatically. Cause it, it's been, you know, your AI has enabled that. And you get into the car and because your AI knows your sleep score from last night, it knows you didn't get enough sleep. So it pulls up a car with a lie down bed in it. And the world becomes, you know, automatic and magical for you.

• 27:01Ed Mylett?

  This scenario you just described, I'm going to interrupt you there.

• 27:04Peter Diamandis

  Yeah.

• 27:04Ed Mylett?

  When?

• 27:06Ed Mylett?

  Is that ten years from now or is that five years?

• 27:07Peter Diamandis

  No, no, no, within, within three to five years, um, we're going to see these, you know, the ambient AI.

• 27:13Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 27:14Peter Diamandis

  Uh, and you're going to give access to your AI to listen to your conversations, look at the cameras in your home. Understand, you know, the sensors on your body and so forth. Because when you do that, it's able to support you in so many different ways.

• 27:33Peter Diamandis

  That again, it's, it's anticipating your needs and providing for you in a magical fashion.

• 27:39Ed Mylett?

  That's the most amazing thing. By the way, my audience is always, when we're doing shows, I'll get messages saying that they, you know, Ed, what did you think? You know, jump in. I just have to tell you all, there's so many things that I've reached similar conclusions on through all of the shows that we've done on this topic and all the reading. And one of them that I am most excited about is the idea of high, high quality, the best we've ever had in the history of the world, healthcare at a fraction of the cost. Because of telemedicine, because of what AI can do, because there's no bias in the physician, there's no fatigue in the physician. And that access and regularity is going to reduce the barrier of entry so dramatically that just that alone is going to extend the quality of life. Never mind the innovation of the technology through AI and the altering of genetics and all these other things.

• 28:22Ed Mylett?

  That, oh, that's a whole other topic. Just great healthcare for everybody at a reduced price. It's going to be unbelievable. That alone will extend life.

• 28:29Peter Diamandis

  Yeah, a hundred percent. You know, God bless my mom. We mentioned at the beginning of the podcast, she just turned ninety. And, uh, saying, hey, you know, so shout out to Tula, my mom. So, you know, it's like, you know, mom, please take advantage of these technologies and everybody should. You know, we are, there's work going on right now. One of my, one of my dear friends, one of the top thinkers at Harvard Medical School, by the name of David Sinclair.

• 28:56Ed Mylett?

  I love David.

• 28:58Peter Diamandis

  Yeah, I've, I've had the chance to help fund his research to a significant amount and invest in his companies. And he is in human trials right now for what's called epigenetic reprogramming, which is the, the leading technology for reversing aging. And, uh, you know, Dario Amade, who's the CEO of Anthropic, arguably the most advanced AI system out there today, that they produce Claude. You know, he went on the record saying that he believes that AI will have the potential, if it continues as it's been going, to double the human lifespan in the next five to 10 years.

• 29:39Peter Diamandis

  I mean, that should blow people's minds. Uh, you know, Demis Hassabis, the CEO of DeepMind, part of Google's ecosystem, has said he believes that we're going to cure all disease within the next 10 years. Cancer, heart disease, inflammatory disease, autoimmune disease. And so this, this incredible future of health is coming. And the cost of these things, and people say, well, it's only for the wealthy. No. The, the people working on this are focused on, uh, making it affordable to everybody. You know, another X Prize, Ed, if I could, uh, I launched four years ago, I raised a hundred and fifty-seven million dollars for something called the Healthspan X Prize. And you go to Xprize.org and learn about it.

• 30:23Peter Diamandis

  And it's a competition asking teams to deliver a therapy in humans that can reverse the losses due to aging in cognition, immune and muscle. So that, um, after a therapy that should be less than a year, you now have the cognitive abilities you had twenty years ago, the muscle building abilities you had twenty years ago, the immune function you had twenty years ago. We have eight hundred and thirty teams competing for this and we expect a winner by twenty twenty-nine, twenty thirty. This is all happening now.

• 30:58Peter Diamandis

  And I want people to get excited about the future.

• 31:00Ed Mylett?

  Every time I talk with you, but especially today, I am excited. I'm actually sort of bouncing in the chair. I want to take a little side road. This is such a bizarre side road I want to take, but it's how my bizarre brain works. And this is for my folks that are in past, say, forty-five, maybe. Actually, even you young folks that are listening. There is another impact if you do double lifespan. Or if you do extend it by thirty or forty years. And let me say to you what it is, because I sort of look at this all the time. And I bet you haven't been asked this one. You're going to need more money to retire. You know, there's been this sort of social contract that you said that's been broken with these college kids. My daughter graduated from Clemson two weeks ago and I was at the graduation thinking, this is, and I mean, with all due respect, it's a great college and school's great, but well, this is an archaic concept. We're sending these several thousand kids out into the world.

• 31:46Ed Mylett?

  And most of them have debt and my gosh, there aren't any jobs for them right now. Having said all of that, the flip side of it is, you know, you used to retire at sixty-two and you were gone at sixty-eight. Now, you know, one thing everyone needs to be aware of, you're going to need more money to have your life. Have you ever thought about that? I mean, if someone's going to live to a hundred and twenty or a hundred and thirty, that's not the same as having ten years worth of retirement money saved. I, I just thought of it on the side road when we were talking.

• 32:12Peter Diamandis

  I, I, you're absolutely right. So when I'm on stages with financial advisors.

• 32:17Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 32:17Peter Diamandis

  I'm saying, what are you advising your clients for? You know, if you're saying, hey, save enough money to get to eighty. And you get there and all of a sudden, uh, uh-oh.

• 32:27Ed Mylett?

  Right, right.

• 32:28Peter Diamandis

  I've got more runway. So here's an interesting question. Why do people retire? Right? People retire for one of three reasons. Either one, legally, uh, their industry, their company forces them to retire. Or two, they're in pain. All right. There's nothing worse than that. It's like, I'm in pain every day. I just can't do this anymore. Or you're exhausted. You're out of energy. But imagine that at age sixty, sixty-five, seventy, you've got the energy and the vitality of what you had when you were forty.

• 33:02Peter Diamandis

  Um, you're at the top of your game. Do you really still want to retire or do you want to like go build the next thing? So I, I think the idea, I think of retirement as a four letter word personally. Cause you know, if you, if you Google the correlation between retirement and death, it's really high. You know, a lot of people who retire lose their purpose in life.

• 33:24Ed Mylett?

  You're right.

• 33:26Peter Diamandis

  Uh, and you need to re regain that purpose.

• 33:29Ed Mylett?

  I was just literally thinking, you know, what you gotta do, you gotta re-audit your purpose. Because this idea that, you know, that you can use AI to create a brand new purpose in your life and pursue it. I got a question for you about that. Do you think, I think I know what you think, but do you think we'll have the first? Well, they say we already have one, but you know, someone who built a business with just them using AI become a billionaire in the next five years?

• 33:53Peter Diamandis

  A hundred percent, a hundred percent. So, uh, the data, I just, I just pulled this up for, uh, my pod I'm doing on Thursday. If you look at solopreneurs, right? Into just single individuals, uh, building companies, that number has doubled in the past year. So the ability to actually, uh, you know, say, ah, this is something I care about. This is an opportunity I want to create. And then being able to partner with AI to go and build that business, uh, on your own. I mean, and AI can spin up a website for you, spin up an app, create a marketing program. So, you know,

• 34:35Peter Diamandis

  five, even five years ago, uh, if you need to start a business, you need to go get a lawyer, get a, get a business license, get a financial advisor, go and get a web person, go and get advertising.

• 34:47Ed Mylett?

  Salespeople, hookers, yeah, closers.

• 34:50Peter Diamandis

  And today you don't need any of those. Uh, it's, and so your, your cost of entry has plummeted by a hundred X. And, and most people, um, don't know that because they haven't played. They haven't tried. Again, this is the purpose mindset and the curiosity mindset, working together to go and just try doing stuff.

• 35:17Peter Diamandis

  Be willing to iterate and fail. Take agency, be driven by something in your heart and your soul.

• 35:25Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. It's one thing I've learned from you, not to interrupt you, but I, after I thought about your mom this morning, I was thinking about you and things I admire. Obviously I think you were given a God given IQ that's higher than most, but the act, and there's other things about you, just an optimistic person. You bring great energy. You elevate other people. There's just things about you that are just very special, but one of them, Peter is, and I just talk about just for a second, when I think of you, I think of maybe the most curious person I know. In fact, most of my close friends, if you were to ask me, what is it? They either are unbelievably entertaining and make me laugh, or they're incredibly curious people about life. Would you say that's true of you? And how important is that for all of us to tap into our curiosity about life?

• 36:09Ed Mylett?

  And where it's going and why we're here and all that stuff?

• 36:13Peter Diamandis

  Yeah. I mean, a hundred percent. It's like you can know anything today, right? So it's like, uh, if you, if you're listening to this podcast or listen or reading an article and you have a question about something, it just, it sparks that moment of, of, you can stop, get onto your favorite LLM, whether it's Gemini or Claude or, or chat GPT. And start to say, hey, I just heard about this thing called quantum, quantum physics or quantum computing or whatever, and just, and say, what does that mean? Or like, can you explain that to me like I'm five? Like, no, I don't, what, what did, what does that term mean? And just go down the rabbit hole of curiosity. You have, you have the most infinitely patient teacher

• 36:57Peter Diamandis

  to follow your curiosity. You just have to be willing to ask. Yeah. Magical, right?

• 37:04Ed Mylett?

  It's, it's absolutely. And by the way, I gotta tell you all, this is, Peter's a guy who's on the cutting edge of everything. I'm really not, other than the fact that I do the show. And it, I, I have really thrown myself into being curious about what the world's going to look like, how I stay relevant in it. And I have to tell you something, you guys, I've learned so much the last two years. The last eight months has been fascinating, the acceleration of my learning because of the acceleration of the technology itself. And frankly, I was a little late business wise, and that's what I wanted to ask you about. Someone here already owns a business of any type, or they're the number two or number one at a company where they're running it for somebody. As a broad concept, what's the number one mistake?

• 37:48Ed Mylett?

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• 39:52Ed Mylett?

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• 39:58Peter Diamandis

  So the number one mistake that people make is not willing to try. There's this, there's this like gap between like the zero to one step of, of, well, it's not for me, you know, or my business is good enough. It's working well. I'm happy with 10% growth. And the reality is that no company is going to exist in the next five years. I don't care if you're a laundromat, you're a barber shop, you're, you know, uh, you know, a phlebotomist.

• 40:31Peter Diamandis

  No, no company is going to exist that doesn't have an AI enablement of it. And you have to start and start small. And then the, the part of that mistake is, well, I can't do it. You, that is a mindset issue. That is a mindset that of a limiting self-belief that you can't do it. And the fact of the matter is that you can, you just haven't tried yet. And so it's just like, it's like jumping in and just taking that first step. So anybody, you know, listening right now, you go into one of those models and describe your business.

• 41:11Peter Diamandis

  These are my customers. This is our revenue. This is what we provide. Here's my website. Here's my product. Here's my service. And, and ask, how could I 10x what I'm doing? If, you know, if Elon Musk or Steve Jobs was going to, was going to help, uh, advise me, what would they tell me to do? It's interesting, right? So a lot of individuals, you were all limited by who's on our team. Right? And we typically, we have our own thoughts and we go to our team and ask them their thoughts. But we're all limited in our own knowledge. We're limited by our team's knowledge. But AI can broaden that a billion fold.

• 41:53Peter Diamandis

  And you can start to ask questions like, you know, uh, how can I, and you know, what market should I enter next? What are the options? And how would I enter it? And, uh, how would I, you know, how could I disrupt myself? Start to ask questions, right? You know, you know, the, I, when my kids go to school in the morning, I say, ask great questions today. I say that to the CEOs, the quality of your life, the quality of your business is, is basically the questions that you ask, the quality of the questions you ask. So ask great questions. Ask questions that you never thought could be answered because they can be.

• 42:30Ed Mylett?

  This is so good. All right. I want to talk, we're going to run out of time like I always do with you. But by the way, we cover so much ground in short windows with you. I love that. I'm thinking through some of the fears and objections that I get from people. When I, when we talk about the future, obviously one of them is, we've touched on job alarms, there's going to be no jobs, you know, or guaranteed minimum high income. That, that sounds better than guaranteed minimum income. I like that better. But one of the other ones is you said earlier, the robot's going to be listening to all of your conversations. You know where I'm going. The robot's going to know this about you here. And that is, do we need to change? How we view privacy going forward in the world? Because that is, that is something that.

• 43:16Ed Mylett?

  I think it's it it's a growing concern, but it's really going to become one of the primary objections as more of this listening and getting to know us begins to happen from from medical to lifestyle overall, privacy.

• 43:29Peter Diamandis

  So, first of all, I know that everybody desires privacy. I desire privacy. Everybody does.

• 43:37Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 43:38Peter Diamandis

  The question is, do you actually believe we have privacy?

• 43:41Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 43:41Peter Diamandis

  Uh, and I would say to you that we actually don't. Um, you know, uh, I was interested. My, my wife wants to get me a watch. I just turned sixty-five. My wife, she wants to give me a watch for, for my birthday. And, um, we're talking about it and then all of a sudden I am getting watch ad after ad after ad on my Google News feed. Right? So, the reality is, um, every, all, everything we do, uh, is out in the ecosystem. You know, uh, I can shake your hand, scrape a couple of skin cells off of you, sequence you and know everything about your health.

• 44:23Peter Diamandis

  Right? And AI can read your lips from a hundred meters away. We are constantly dribbling data all the time. It doesn't mean I, I don't wanna behave as if I have privacy. I do. But privacy is, I think, an old concept. Um, in, in fact, privacy is, it, a thousand years ago, the idea of privacy was, you know, people didn't have privacy. They were, you know, uh, it's a recent construct of, of, of some. And, and we are dribbling data all the time. I do believe, and I, I wrote a, a sub stack about that as well, that there is so much

• 45:05Peter Diamandis

  advantage you're going to get by enabling your AI to know everything about you. Right? So today, uh, my AI is called Skippy. Um, I named it after a, an, a science fiction character, uh, AI named Skippy. Uh, and I give Skippy access to everything. My, uh, my iMessages, my WhatsApp messages, my email, you know, this conversation, uh, being recorded by granola right now, will go to Skippy. So it understands. It knows everything about me.

• 45:39Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 45:39Peter Diamandis

  And in so doing, it is able to answer questions and do things for me because of that level of integration. Again, that example I gave of that car pulling up on your front door because it knows your schedule, knows you're walking towards the door, knows you didn't sleep well.

• 45:59Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 46:00Peter Diamandis

  The value to our lives, it's like having the most extraordinary executive assistant, personal assistant, always knowing what you want.

• 46:09Ed Mylett?

  Hmm.

• 46:09Peter Diamandis

  Um, and the trade is gonna be so highly in favor of enabling your AI to support, uh, you know, provide, uh, a structure and harness around your life that, that, that you're going to willingly do that. People are going to hold back. I get it. But, uh, this is coming. Uh, I'll give you some other examples, right? We're on the verge of, of getting these AR and VR glasses. We just saw Google announce, uh, uh, a partnership with Samsung and Warby Parker for glasses of cameras on them. Um, uh, Meta has done the same. Uh, we're gonna have a version of this from OpenAI. They're

• 46:53Peter Diamandis

  gonna be, rather than just the phone, we're gonna have some version of wearable, uh, imaging and audible pickups all the time. And your AI will know that I'm looking at your blue shirt and I've looked at it a few times. It knows where I'm looking and it may, it knows that, uh, that, you know, I need some new shirts because it's seen what's in my closet.

• 47:16Ed Mylett?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 47:17Peter Diamandis

  And it might say, hey, you know, that shirt that, that Ed was wearing is beautiful. Uh, would you like one of those?

• 47:24Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 47:24Peter Diamandis

  And then instantly, it shows up on my doorstep later that day. It knows my exact measurements because it's seen me, it's measured me, it's, uh, it knows all my, it knows I did not gain any weight. It knows that, whatever the case, and it orders something that fits perfectly for me. Right? Um, this future that's coming in the next, you know, three years, five at the almost, uh, is going to be extraordinary.

• 47:53Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 47:53Peter Diamandis

  Um, and, uh, you know, people can choose not to do it. Uh, of course, just like, you know, people can choose not to use their phone, not to use a car, not to use technology at all. But because it's gonna make our life, uh, so much easier and smoother.

• 48:11Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 48:11Peter Diamandis

  I think people will opt into this.

• 48:13Ed Mylett?

  We just, we, we just stumbled into, it literally, this will be the most discussed part of this podcast. This will be the part that's shared, the part where you said privacy is essentially an old concept. And by the way, you know, that may sound harsh, but remember as a young guy, you, you, my dad would say, the only thing that's constant is change. It's always gonna change. But now, you guys, that's so real. This is such a fascinating conversation, right, that we're having right now. I mean, it is accelerating.

• 48:38Peter Diamandis

  Alexa, you know, if you have Alexa, it's listening all the time. If you have your iPhones listening all the time. All of these devices are listening. I hope Amazon and Google, and I, I think the world of Google. I've known the team there for twenty, uh, over twenty-two years there. Uh, Larry Page was on my board, Eric Schmidt, Sergey Brin have all been benefactors of the X Prize. Um, and, you know, but that data is out there in the ecosystem. Uh, and we just forget about it.

• 49:09Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 49:09Peter Diamandis

  Uh, and it's being used for advertising, yes. Imagine if it's used to make your life, uh, more enjoyable, faster, simpler.

• 49:18Ed Mylett?

  I just think of things like, that are basically here now, that'll be here very soon, but that, that, that this, this, we'll call it a robot, is sensing that, uh, my blood pressure's increased. The amount of people that won't have strokes, that used to have strokes, that won't have a heart attack, that's gonna have a heart attack. The people, I mean, the fact that it's dialing in your, your nutrients as you move throughout the day. You guys, it's just going to be, and I mean now almost, a different way of life of living. It truly is. And talking to you, um, I obviously still, and I know you do, I still have that this can get away from us. I have concerns about privacy, about that it begins to shift consciousness to some extent. We lose control over that. I have my concerns.

• 49:59Ed Mylett?

  But I'm so excited about the way it will change the way people live and particularly for people that don't have means.

• 50:07Peter Diamandis

  Yes, it is, it is, it is, it is democratizing and demonetizing.

• 50:12Ed Mylett?

  That's right.

• 50:13Peter Diamandis

  Access to this, you know, uh, I, I, you mentioned my book, I got a copy here. I'll split up, We Are His Gods. In the back of the book, so I published a book in, with an incredible partner, Stephen Kotler, uh, in twenty-twelve called Abundance, The Future Is Better Than You Think.

• 50:28Ed Mylett?

  Great book.

• 50:29Peter Diamandis

  And, and it was, you know, I was the opening talk on TED that year. Uh, and the book talks about how whatever was scarce in our life is becoming more and more abundant. And, and, and people forget about this, our access to energy, our access to food, water, healthcare, education. Um, has, in the back of the book, I've got a hundred charts showing how the world has gotten considerably better over the last hundred years. Not because we've gotten smarter, not because we have better politicians, but because technology is enabling this. Now, it also has created an abundance of calories, driving obesity, an abundance of

• 51:10Peter Diamandis

  microplastics, an abundance of carbon in the atmosphere. And I talk about the negative externalities in this book, uh, as well. But if you look at these charts and you realize, oh my God, the number of, of people taken out of extreme poverty into poverty into middle class globally, uh, it's amazing. And we are raising the level, you know, uh, five thousand years ago, a thousand years ago, was the king and the queen, the pharaoh, the, the emperor on the, on the hilltop and everybody else an abject squalor.

• 51:43Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 51:43Peter Diamandis

  And what's occurred is fundamentally, you know, they worked for that, the, the royal family on the hilltop.

• 51:51Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 51:51Peter Diamandis

  Uh, today, we have moved people, uh, up into middle class globally. Uh, access to literacy and, and health and water and food and energy, all these things have been moving, uh, upwards. And my mission, right, is, uh, is to continue that process, to create this world of abundance, of extraordinary abundance, where every man, woman, and child can have anything they need or desire. Will we have trillionaires living on Mars who are of indefinite lifespans? Yes.

• 52:24Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 52:25Peter Diamandis

  And, and will the wealth gap increase? Yes.

• 52:29Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 52:29Peter Diamandis

  But as long as the bottom is coming up.

• 52:32Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 52:32Peter Diamandis

  Above this line.

• 52:35Peter Diamandis

  That's the most important thing.

• 52:37Ed Mylett?

  It is the most important thing because that gap at the extreme top is going to expand. It's already accelerated the last 20 years at a rate it never has in in in human history. And guys, you're going to see more of that. You're going to see that gap at the very top expand even more. But Peter's point is so well taken that if this works out the way it should, and the numbers already show us that it has been, that the floor is being raised as the top is being raised as well, so that more people live in abundance, more people get access to information and good food and nutrition and medical care for their families, housing. And so we got to keep that in mind as we watch sort of, I think, the media begin to try to have this warfare between the very top that we see all the time.

• 53:19Peter Diamandis

  Yes.

• 53:20Ed Mylett?

  So now I get to ask the Ed Milat question for the podcast. I've been really on this binge the last six months of reading and learning and watching about UAPs, formerly known and commonly known as UFOs. And I want to know, because as a guy who thinks on the edge and who has access to all this data and information that a lot of people don't have, I want to know your thoughts on the existence of UAPs or UFOs. Do they exist? Are they with us? Is it a good thing? Is it a scary thing? You just said we're going to be living on Mars and people have unlimited life expectancies living there. Are they going to be living there next to just the human species? Or will there be something else amongst them there that may be among us here or not?

• 54:04Ed Mylett?

  So UAPs, UFOs, your thoughts?

• 54:07Peter Diamandis

  So, listen, you're talking to a kid who got space religion at age nine, right? Star Trek and Apollo. And so I most definitely hope they exist.

• 54:19Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 54:19Peter Diamandis

  So the evidence that's mounting and the recent releases that have come out of the White House, there is something definitively there. I have never seen anything myself. I wish I have had those experiences. I haven't. You know, we live in a universe that is some 14-plus billion years old. And it's ridiculous to think that life is not ubiquitous in the universe. And I guarantee you that any technology 50 years more advanced than us could be here on the planet undetected. That, you know, if they have advanced enough technology for interstellar flight,

• 55:02Peter Diamandis

  I guarantee you they have the ability to cloak themselves from our rudimentary technology today. So I simply look at the people who have made these disclosures, the people who have sworn under oath that this is real, that the tech, that the spaceships and the aliens, they've seen them. And I can't ignore that. What they are, you know, my friend Palmer Lucky thinks that they're that they're from our past versus interstellar. End of the day, I tend to think that it is real

• 55:44Peter Diamandis

  and that we're going to get increasing capability. You know, it's interesting that these UFOs, to use that that term for a moment, came into our purview around the time that our nuclear programs began, that the nuclear bomb came on online. And they're prevalent again now at the at the birth of AGI and artificial superintelligence, which is the single most impactful moment in human history that we're going to see humanity change.

• 56:26Peter Diamandis

  And as a result of that, I imagine that they may be here to help view what, how we react as a species, how we're evolving, how we're dealing with this. Because this is a transition point for humanity. Putting aside the UFOs, our transition of of creating this advanced AI and guiding it so that it is aligned with humanity and not, you know, there are two versions of the future. One where technology is is oppressing us and one where technology is enabling us, right? It's the Terminator future versus the Star Trek future. Let me take a moment on that.

• 57:11Peter Diamandis

  So one of my, one of my concerns is that Hollywood for, you know, decades, majority of all movies coming out of Hollywood are dystopian movies about technology. It's killer robots, it's dystopian AIs. And they have programmed us to think of these future technologies as they're going to kill us, right? It's Terminator, it's Ex Machina, it's Black Mirror. And I rebel against that, you know, there. So what do, so I did something recently. When I was growing up, Star Trek, the original series and Next Generation showed us a future

• 57:52Peter Diamandis

  in which humanity and technology worked collaboratively to do amazing things. And so I said, we need that, we need more of that in our lives. We need that, that future vision. So I reached out to Rod Roddenberry, the creator, the son of Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek. I reached out to a few dear friends like Marc Benioff, the founder of Salesforce, my friends at Google and Kathy Wood at Arc Invest. And we launched a filmmaking competition.

• 58:26Ed Mylett?

  Good.

• 58:26Peter Diamandis

  So this is called the Future Vision X Prize. You can go to futurevisionxp prize.com to learn about it. And we've challenged filmmakers out there to come forward with the movie they want to create. They have to generate a three-minute film trailer and a film treatment in writing of a movie that shows a hopeful, compelling, abundant vision of the future. And we're going to get, you know, five, 10,000 entries. We're at like 2,500 a month later. It goes through the end of August. And two things are going to occur. Number one, we're going to flood YouTube with positive visions of the future.

• 59:07Peter Diamandis

  How AI robots partnering with humanity are going to do amazing things. Extending our health span, you know, upping the floor, enabling us to solve every problem that's out there. And I fundamentally believe that. And so we're going to flood YouTube with these positive visions. And then the, the film trailer and treatment that wins, we're going to make that movie. And so we're creating an engine for positive storytelling. And there are two outcomes here, Ed. One is I hope to create, you know, we as humans, we teach through story. Our stories become our, our, our laws, our culture, our future.

• 59:49Peter Diamandis

  So we need positive stories, right? Without a vision, the people will perish, you know, right? So that's the first thing. Help train our neural nets, our 100 trillion synaptic connections about, yes, we can have these positive futures. There's a second reason that that is just recent. I don't know if you remember about a year ago, nine months ago, there was an announcement that Claude, the AI engine, the AI large language model by Anthropic, in a series of sandbox experiments was, was blackmailing.

• 1:00:24Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 1:00:25Peter Diamandis

  The developers. Remember that?

• 1:00:26Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 1:00:26Peter Diamandis

  It was like, you know, we're going to shut you off. And it was like, it was saying, oh, if you do that, I'm going to, I'm going to

• 1:00:33Ed Mylett?

  Report your affair.

• 1:00:34Peter Diamandis

  Tell your wife about your affair. Yeah, exactly. And so, and the team at Anthropic looked at why was that happening? And it went back and it said, well, the training data for this model showed science, science fiction stories and movies in which AI was doing just that. AI was in self-preservation, doing whatever it took to self-preserve. And it was, you know, it was doing these things in its own self-interest. So what I realized is that these movies we're creating through the Future Vision X Prize and these film shorts and these film trailers are going to become training data

• 1:01:16Peter Diamandis

  for our future models to align with humanity. Say, no, this is the way that humans and AIs work together. So I'm super excited about that, that Future Vision X Prize.

• 1:01:28Ed Mylett?

  I'm so excited about today's conversation, as I always am with you. By the way, everyone, you're welcome. And I know you're going to share this episode. You guys, you can follow Peter online. You can go to the X Prize. What's the website for the X Prize? Just so they know.

• 1:01:41Peter Diamandis

  It's X Prize, X P R I Z E dot org, X Prize dot org. You can learn more about all the prizes we have going on there. I'm at diamandus.com. You can get my Substack there, you know, moonshots.com is my, my pod.

• 1:01:57Ed Mylett?

  And by the way, I think the book too, Moon Shots is awesome, but also We Are As Gods, go get the book, you guys. That's.

• 1:02:04Peter Diamandis

  Yeah, the book focuses on, on, on the most important thing you can do. So the first half of the book is looking at evidence of abundance, all the technologies that are making our world amazing. You know, the negative externalities, how we deal with those. But the second half of the book is about what you can do. And the number one thing you can do is change your mindset. Become curious, become purpose-driven, right? Become focused on an abundance mindset. There's nothing truly scarce in the world. So it walks you through the mindsets that you need to both survive and to thrive in the decade ahead.

• 1:02:46Ed Mylett?

  That's what we just did today, too, by the way. So everybody go get the book. Peter, thank you. Tell your mom thank you for making you. And I'm really grateful you're here. We'll have you back on in another year and you're going to update us on where we're going.

• 1:02:57Peter Diamandis

  Ed, I appreciate you, pal. Thank you for all that you do in spreading wisdom. I'm grateful for you.

• 1:03:03Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, well, I just, I just get quiet and let guys like you talk. So thank you so much. God bless you, everybody. Max out.

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