The Lifetime Competitor- with Marshall Faulk

Build your way to GREATNESS! This is truly a tremendous interview. We cover Marshall’s Breakthrough moment, which I was there for 28 years ago 😂(insane story of how I helped him make history !!!!) All of the keys and disciplines that SEPARATED him from other world-class athletes! We talk Hall Of Fame, Super Bowls, and his legendary preparation habits Marshall and I have become good friends I can tell you one of the things that’s most remarkable about him, is his for Ferocious COMPETITIVE Drive (I’ve personally witnessed this in many different settings including golf, business, etc.) We even discuss his real feelings about my @patriots! Also his new association w same financial firm I’m a part of and much much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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• 0:00Ed Mylett?

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• 1:08Speaker 01

  This is the Ed Mylett Show.

• 1:15Ed Mylett?

  Welcome back to Max Out with Ed Mylett. This gentleman to my left does not need any introduction, but I'm going to give him one anyway. This is NFL Hall of Famer, only man in the history of the NFL with 70 rushing touchdowns and 30 receiving touchdowns in the history of the league, this man right here. So this is the great Marshall Fox joining me here today. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. It's really, really a blessing. So I knew who you were before the rest of the world does. And when I tell you this story, I don't want to tell you off camera. You're going to know right away what I'm talking about. I went to college at University of the Pacific. You know what I'm about to tell you? Yes. So. I made your school famous. Yeah, you, well, you became famous because of my school, actually, is how, the way I look at it. So just so you all know, I knew who this man was before the whole world did, really, in football.

• 1:59Ed Mylett?

  I played baseball at University of the Pacific. In my sophomore year, they asked me to come play football because our corner got hurt. And luckily, I pulled a hamstring that week, so I sat on the sidelines and watched this guy enter the game. Let me tell you what happened. Okay, first off, he wasn't even the starting running back that day, right? You weren't even the starter?

• 2:13Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 2:14Ed Mylett?

  He's not the starter. This man ends up getting in the game. He goes 37 rushes for 300, make sure you get this right, 386 yards. Did you just hear what I said? 37 rushes, 386 yards, 7 touchdowns. He was responsible for 44 points in this football game.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31Ed Mylett?

  Do you remember that game?

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:32Ed Mylett?

  Oh, my God.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  I cannot forget it.

• 2:33Ed Mylett?

  And so, at that point, I went, A, I'm not playing football, because I don't relate to that at all. And B, I just watched one of the greatest football players of all time way back when. That was really the beginning, kind of, wasn't it for you?

• 2:44Speaker 02

  That was, that was the start of everything.

• 2:45Ed Mylett?

  It was, that game was.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, that, that game was, um, it was like hello world for me.

• 2:50Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Uh, and, and people always ask me like, man, because you envision yourself, you don't, you don't have those kinds of dreams. You have dreams of being successful, but to that degree?

• 3:02Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  It just, it, it, you can never fathom or, or think in your head that that's going to happen. But I always tell people, I was prepared for it, though.

• 3:10Ed Mylett?

  What do you mean by that?

• 3:11Speaker 02

  I was prepared. The work that I put in, um, making sure, I, I knew I was the backup. And, and as the backup, I got a, I got a senior playing in front of me. Um, he was all-conference. The chances of me playing?

• 3:22Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Slim to none.

• 3:23Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  The week before, I got like 2 snaps.

• 3:26Ed Mylett?

  Is that right?

• 3:27Speaker 02

  And then, and then, you know, second week of the season, uh, he goes down and I'm, and I'm in the game. And Coach looks at me and he's like, you just hold on to this football.

• 3:36Ed Mylett?

  (laughing).

• 3:37Speaker 02

  You, you think about all the film work that I put in, just, just wanting to make sure that if I do get in?

• 3:43Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm supposed to do, then I'm not going to let the other 10 guys in the huddle down.

• 3:48Ed Mylett?

  Down.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  And, you know, that, that's the work that goes in. And, and the opportunity presented itself, I'm just glad I was prepared.

• 3:55Ed Mylett?

  You talk, you talk about taking advantage, because I think in every career, that's true.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:59Ed Mylett?

  What if you don't? Let's, if you think about, what if you don't perform today? What if you put a couple on the ground that day, right? I mean, we may, it's possible you never even see the football field again, it's possible. So, it's true for all of you, like, even starting out the interview, there's going to be times in your career in chasing your dream, where there's going to be a moment.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 4:14Ed Mylett?

  And those moments are few and far between. And when they arrive, you need to be prepared for them, because that was the hello world. I mean, I'm telling you, I've, I've been to a lot of sporting events in my life. I've never seen an athlete dominate other athletes in my damn life like I did that day. And I knew after that point, I better keep an eye on this guy. So, before you get there, though, before you become an NFL Hall of Famer? And one of the, you know, arguably the best football player I've ever seen, right? And guys that I know that were in the league will tell me that often. The best football player I've ever seen is Marshall Fogg. And so, but you go to San Diego State.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  Right.

• 4:44Ed Mylett?

  So, were you not, you obviously had to be a great high school player, but how do you only end up at San Diego State? I don't mean to put down San Diego State, it's a great school. But this isn't USC running back university, right? So, how come you end up at San Diego State and not one of these big schools?

• 4:59Speaker 02

  It was, it was a combination of, um, back then, they didn't label, you were only labeled to a position. If you were running back, you were running back. If you played defensive back, you played defensive back. You played receiver, you played receiver. They didn't have this thing called the athlete. And in high school, I played quarterback, receiver, tight end, uh, corner, safety. I kicked, I punted, I returned kicks, I returned punts. I kicked field goals, I held for the field goal kicker.

• 5:28Ed Mylett?

  Really? Did you really?

• 5:29Speaker 02

  I did everything. I did everything. And my, my football coach.

• 5:32Ed Mylett?

  You were a football player.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  Exactly. He built football players. We were, we were, um, we were in a big school. And, and, but we, but we were like, we were the smallest school in the biggest division.

• 5:44Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 5:44Speaker 02

  And, and we didn't have a, like, I mean, I played, I played whole games in high school.

• 5:49Ed Mylett?

  Literally every snap on both sides.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  When I got on the field, I didn't come off until halftime. I played offense, defense, I was on every special team.

• 5:57Ed Mylett?

  Oh my gosh.

• 5:58Speaker 02

  I never left the field.

• 5:59Ed Mylett?

  Do you think that had something to do with the way you played in the NFL? Cause you were one of the, you were like, you were really kind of that new breed of like, a complete football player at running back. You, you blocked well. You understood the blocking schemes. You were a great receiver, right? Obviously a great runner too. Do you think that had something to do with it?

• 6:13Speaker 02

  A lot to do with it.

• 6:14Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  I, I, I became the, the why we're, why are we doing that? What is that?

• 6:20Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  I want to do that. And, and, and my coaches, early in my career, my coaches, they didn't like it. It was, coaches don't like explaining why. Hey, we're going to do this play. Hey, coach, why we're doing that? I watched the film, they do this, this and this. They look at you like.

• 6:35Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  Couldn't appreciate the fact that I was watching film on my own.

• 6:39Ed Mylett?

  You were.

• 6:39Speaker 02

  You know, at a young age.

• 6:40Ed Mylett?

  Did you really?

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Yes, yeah.

• 6:43Ed Mylett?

  You've always been a student of it.

• 6:44Speaker 02

  Just I, I, I love, I love football. And there's only one way to get better.

• 6:49Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  And everything that I did, I went home, I watched film. I watched practice. We, we watched practice and I go home, I watch practice.

• 6:57Ed Mylett?

  You did.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:58Ed Mylett?

  And that's not.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  It's the only way to get better.

• 6:59Ed Mylett?

  Is that, and that's the only way to get better than anything, right?

• 7:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 7:02Ed Mylett?

  But is that a separator? That's what I wanted to ask you. So you get to the, you get to the NFL. By the way, I remember Mike Mart saying, literally their goal in foot, it was almost like a basketball player like LeBron. You want to get him as many touches as you can? You're really one of the first football players I ever saw where the coordinator literally said, we need to get him X amount of touches a football game. And that's, is that part of that because of your preparation too?

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Um, it was, uh, Mike felt if they tried to get me to as much, he could give me the ball as much as possible.

• 7:28Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  And when they couldn't get it to me, if they showed me as a, like I'm the primary.

• 7:35Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 7:36Speaker 02

  And I attract.

• 7:36Ed Mylett?

  Coverage.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Attention.

• 7:37Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  There's a lot of one on ones. Isaac Bruce is going to win. Torrey Hope, they're going to, they're going to win.

• 7:42Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  The majority of the battles of the one on one.

• 7:44Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  As soon as they get me to draw any attention.

• 7:48Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  To my position.

• 7:49Ed Mylett?

  Totally different way of using a running back in that time, right? It's still not all that common. I mean, it's still not that common, but you were certainly the first.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  Some teams, Pittsburgh, they, they do it with Le'Veon Bell. Uh, Buffalo, they do it with LeSean McCoy.

• 8:01Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 8:01Speaker 02

  Um, Dallas do it with Zeke.

• 8:03Ed Mylett?

  That's true.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  They, they, they get him involved in the passing game. Maybe not as much as lining up as a wide receiver as I did. But they get him involved and it's, here, here's the reason. In football, the minute you break a huddle, running back, running back, you think he wants to run the football.

• 8:18Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  If you run a swing route and they, and they throw you the ball. The big 300 pounders that they have in the middle of the football field.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  You just got me away from them.

• 8:30Ed Mylett?

  Right, right, yeah.

• 8:32Speaker 02

  And, and there's the advantage. Now, now you've got a hundred and 80 pound, 190 pound cornerback who really doesn't like to tackle.

• 8:39Ed Mylett?

  Right, he don't want to tackle.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  You gotta tackle me one on one.

• 8:42Ed Mylett?

  That's awesome. I get that, but you got that. See, I think. You're one of the first players I saw, and I love football, obviously I don't know anything about it compared to you, but I would read that this man knew what everyone on the offense's responsibilities were. You knew what the guards was, the tackles was, what route the receiver was running, and like, and I think that helped you get in space too, didn't it? I mean, that's they trusted you getting the football for those reasons.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  Understanding the game, you know, and I just, I took it to, I took it to the quarterback level. I don't want to call it the, it's the quarterback level. And I, and this is what I tell people, um, a lot of, you know, I, I watch, um, I have friends who work, work in Hollywood and, you know, we, we, let's say you get a script. What if you only know your line?

• 9:23Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  How are you going to know when their line is done? So you, you have to learn the whole script.

• 9:29Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  So you understand the principles and what you're trying to accomplish.

• 9:33Ed Mylett?

  Do you think that that was the, that's a good point, was that, I always wanted to know, when you get to an elite level, because a lot of people that watch this, whatever they're in, they could be in business and fitness and any sport. They're, they're at a pretty elite level. And then how do you separate? Because we were talking about before, you ran a four, three, five, forty, that's, that's fast. But there are other guys in the league who ran four fours.

• 9:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:51Ed Mylett?

  What's the separator? Is it preparation, like what's the separator at the elite, elite level in sports or business in your mind? What's the, that little inch, that difference?

• 10:00Speaker 02

  Um, preparation, mental toughness, and understanding that when you come into the game, your skill level is here and your knowledge is here. If, and they're going to intersect to where like, you're, you're playing and then they're going to pass each other. Where your skill level goes down and your knowledge of the game goes up. The faster you can raise your knowledge, the longer time you're going to have to be as good as you are physically and as smart as you can be mentally. That's the elite, the elite players, they, they're up here a long time. But Kobe Bryant, Kobe was like, once he got it and understood the game, he was able to slow down the deterioration of his body.

• 10:43Ed Mylett?

  I got you. Do you think that's happened?

• 10:45Speaker 02

  He continued to grow.

• 10:46Ed Mylett?

  Do you see that in a guy like Brady a little bit?

• 10:47Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, without a doubt. Like Tom is, Tom is, he's fighting father time.

• 10:52Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  You know that, that's why crazy diets, all these workouts, all the stuff that he does, because he understands. Mentally?

• 11:00Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  This dude is maxed out. I mean, he is, he knows everything. You, you might be able to trick him once, but you're not gonna trick him all game.

• 11:08Ed Mylett?

  Right, right, right.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  And, and he understands. The only thing that's keeping him back now is age.

• 11:15Ed Mylett?

  Age.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  So, he's trying to slow it down.

• 11:17Ed Mylett?

  And so his preparation is physical preparation, not diet preparation. It's that, that little separate.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  Any, anything to slow down the aging process of his body, so he can remain at that peak.

• 11:27Ed Mylett?

  That's crazy. And I watched that. I'm curious, it's a football question about that. I've just always wanted to know. You played with Peyton when he was young, right? And then you played with Kurt Warner.

• 11:35Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 11:36Ed Mylett?

  I'm curious, what were the similar, two great football players. You caught Peyton earlier in his career, but, um, of those two guys, just out of curiosity, what was this, what are the similarities and what was different about the two of them?

• 11:46Speaker 02

  Both of, both of them, they have unbelievable leadership skills and they're committed to doing things the right way.

• 11:54Ed Mylett?

  What do you mean by leadership skills? Like specifically, like what's that look like a little bit?

• 11:57Speaker 02

  They, they, they know, they know that each player requires a different, um, type of encouragement.

• 12:06Ed Mylett?

  You don't treat everybody the same?

• 12:07Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:08Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. Some dudes you can lay on and get on.

• 12:10Speaker 02

  Peyton, Kurt, like whether, whether it was Peyton or Kurt, we'd have conversations and they knew the conversation with me had to be intellectually about how we're gonna pick up the blitz, what we're gonna do, these adjustments. He'd go to the tight end and he'd say, so, when I do this, where would you like to be, you know, do you need me to let your motion go a little wider so you can hook the end? Or, so, it, it's all about, it's all about encouraging people, letting them know you understand what their job is.

• 12:38Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  And that you are out to help them do their job better.

• 12:42Ed Mylett?

  Got you.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Because, let's, let's be honest, the five guys that protect the quarterback?

• 12:47Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 12:48Speaker 02

  You only hear their name or number if they hold.

• 12:50Ed Mylett?

  That's up, that's up, right?

• 12:51Speaker 02

  When they score a touchdown, they never say, number 71!

• 12:55Ed Mylett?

  That's so true. That's so true.

• 12:57Speaker 02

  That yellow flag come out holding, number 71.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  So, so, so when you take them to dinner, you invite them to your house?

• 13:04Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:05Speaker 02

  Peyton, Kurt, let's sit down and watch film with the offensive line.

• 13:08Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, yeah. Did you ever do anything for your offensive line?

• 13:10Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Dinner is bottom stuff. I mean, yeah. And, and here's the reality. When you, when you do things for those guys?

• 13:19Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  You, you, this is how I know when guys are taking care of their offensive line. Quarterback on his back. Running back on his back, they there to pick you up.

• 13:29Ed Mylett?

  Pick it up, yeah.

• 13:30Speaker 02

  Cleaning guys off.

• 13:31Ed Mylett?

  It is kind of telling.

• 13:32Speaker 02

  They keep you clean.

• 13:32Ed Mylett?

  It is telling sometimes when you see that not happen. You do, when you see it not happen, you're like, wow, what's going on in that football?

• 13:38Speaker 02

  I told people this, I was like, I watched the Washington Redskins, I couldn't figure out why they wouldn't give Kirk Cousins the big deal. And then they moved on, offensive line never helped him up, you never heard a teammate saying, we need to pay him, we need to keep him, something was wrong.

• 13:53Ed Mylett?

  Well, you just, you just knew it from being in there.

• 13:54Speaker 02

  Something was wrong, and, and I don't know Kurt personally.

• 13:58Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  But if I, if I did and I was in his circle, I'd tell him, you gotta work on your leadership skills.

• 14:04Ed Mylett?

  And you got a fresh start this time, so you better clean it up this time.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  Gotta work on your leadership skills.

• 14:08Ed Mylett?

  That's awesome, what a great, what a great insight. So I'm curious, a couple more football things, you've played on great teams, this, you've won Super Bowl, right? I was at that Super Bowl, by the way, you probably enjoyed it a little bit more than I did, but, but, but you also were on teams that weren't great.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:21Ed Mylett?

  Do you know, do you know, like, you're in camp, you're like, we don't have it, or do, does every camp, does everyone go, we're gonna win this damn Super Bowl this year? Or did you, is there a point where you're on a good football, you knew you were the greatest show on turf compared to a team that won five games? Do you know, or is it, do you not know until the season reveals itself?

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Every, every team, at the start of the season, they are playing their best players.

• 14:46Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  And you feel like you have a chance of winning every game. The special teams, there's, there's just something different.

• 14:57Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 14:57Speaker 02

  When, I, the start of the season on teams when we went three and thirteen, or thirteen and three, it was the same.

• 15:04Ed Mylett?

  It is, okay.

• 15:05Speaker 02

  It was, it was, it was, the things that happened throughout the season.

• 15:11Speaker 02

  I hurt my knee, I go down, my backup comes in and scores three touchdowns. You know what? Thanks for being ready.

• 15:18Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Kurt Warner goes down, the backup comes in.

• 15:22Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Trent Green throws a couple of touchdowns, we win a couple of games, Kurt don't play, those are the kind of things. It's not as much the players that, that the 22 guys that start, it's the guys behind them. Because every team, you're gonna have, you're gonna have bumps in the roads, you're gonna have roadblocks, there's gonna be obstacles.

• 15:41Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 15:41Speaker 02

  And you can't expect. Those 22 guys to solve every problem.

• 15:46Ed Mylett?

  That's interesting because I'm a Patriot fan. And every offseason like this, I watch they lose these guys, you know, and I'm like, but it seems to me that they understand building that backend of their roster too. Because that's going to be part of the football season. You're just going to have attrition during the football season, right?

• 15:59Speaker 02

  You have to.

• 16:00Ed Mylett?

  So I'm curious, let's talk about the Super Bowl just real quick. Is that the highlight of your career? We're going to talk about the big highlight at the end here in the Hall of Fame, but I'm curious, what's that feel like? After all that work, you'd been playing a while too, right? And what was that like? And then compare it for me to the one against New England.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  I played football, basketball, baseball, ran track, and had been a champion at everything other than football. I never won a championship in football.

• 16:27Ed Mylett?

  You're kidding me.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  So the, so the dream, the dream as a kid, we growing up, always, me and my friends, we ended the day when it was time to go home, this play is for the Super Bowl.

• 16:37Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  You were on offense or defense. So it was all, and I never got a chance to experience that. Not only did I get a chance to experience it, it came down to this play.

• 16:47Ed Mylett?

  One play. One yard or whatever, right? Yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 02

  I mean, it's, there's no, I, I could have retired.

• 16:53Ed Mylett?

  Seriously?

• 16:54Speaker 02

  That was like, that, I could have retired after that game. I didn't, I didn't have, I really, I had to refocus, set some new goals.

• 17:04Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  Because I was playing for that. I didn't need to win multiple. It wasn't about, I want to win three or four and be the, no, no, no. I have a childhood dream.

• 17:15Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  I'm playing this game because I want to win a Super Bowl. I want that, I want that dream to come through. It came through.

• 17:20Ed Mylett?

  That's amazing. And does that stick with you more? I'm curious, like every day you're walking around, you're Marshall Faulk, everybody knows you. You got your post-football life now. Does that stick with you more? And I don't mean to rub it in, but I'm curious, does that stick with you more than the loss?

• 17:32Speaker 02

  I'm a glass half-full kind of guy.

• 17:34Ed Mylett?

  You are.

• 17:35Speaker 02

  So anytime, football is a joy to me. And, and the many Patriot fans out there, they, I, they think I hate the Patriots. And they have no idea of my relationship with Tom Brady, my relationship with Mr. Kraft, how I respect him. Just so you know, and I know you've got a lot of Patriots fans, I was the first player ever, ever, ever. That Mr. Kraft sat down and talked to when he became the owner of the team.

• 18:02Ed Mylett?

  You're kidding me.

• 18:02Speaker 02

  It was my draft year. They flew me in.

• 18:05Ed Mylett?

  You're kidding.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  Um, he and I, we had a great, we had an awesome lunch.

• 18:09Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Um, I mean, we went to dinner that night. I met his family.

• 18:13Ed Mylett?

  Wow, okay.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  Um, got to meet his, his wife, who's an awesome woman.

• 18:17Ed Mylett?

  That's awesome.

• 18:18Speaker 02

  And, um, and, and he and I, we, uh, we've, we've always, there's just a respect.

• 18:22Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  We talk about it.

• 18:23Ed Mylett?

  Sure.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  And he, he says to me, if I wouldn't have let Bill make the decision, you would have been with the Patriots.

• 18:28Ed Mylett?

  What an amazing damn Patriot player.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  You know, and Bill just wasn't into.

• 18:31Ed Mylett?

  Come on.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Bill wasn't into, but it was Marcel that time.

• 18:34Ed Mylett?

  That's right, it was Marcel.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Wasn't into drafting, uh, running backs, didn't like California players.

• 18:39Ed Mylett?

  Is that right?

• 18:39Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, he just, I mean, if you just look at.

• 18:41Ed Mylett?

  He doesn't go those, he goes east coast.

• 18:43Speaker 02

  Offensive players. If he, he was drafted defensive guy, but never really, you know, liked California players who played offense. But, but anyways, that was, that was my, that is my, actually, just last spring.

• 18:54Ed Mylett?

  Okay.

• 18:55Speaker 02

  I was one of the players, um, one of the Hall of Famers who went with Mr. Kraft to Israel.

• 19:00Ed Mylett?

  Oh, wow.

• 19:01Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, so I, I.

• 19:02Ed Mylett?

  That's important for everybody to know.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  I love and respect.

• 19:05Ed Mylett?

  That's all.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  But I have a duty on television. My job is I'm anti-Patriot.

• 19:11Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  So, so I play my role.

• 19:13Ed Mylett?

  You play the role.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  There's a role, TV does a role. That's my job. I play that role. I poke holes in everything that they do.

• 19:19Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  But understand that I respect everything that Mr. Kraft.

• 19:22Ed Mylett?

  That's wonderful.

• 19:23Speaker 02

  Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, what they've built.

• 19:25Ed Mylett?

  That's wonderful.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  I mean, it's, um, it's, it's, it's the model now and what you want to do and, and how you want things to happen.

• 19:31Ed Mylett?

  Wonderful. And segue that a little bit into broadcasting. You're my favorite guy on TV.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Oh, thanks, man.

• 19:36Ed Mylett?

  I'm not saying because you're here either. I'm saying that because, and I think of other analysts, this is true. I've watched NFL Network and they'll literally say they enjoy being in the green room with you off camera. Everybody, just so you know, this is true, isn't it? The other guys at the network will say they've enjoyed, and, and, and other places you broadcast, and will continue to broadcast. But they'll say they enjoy being in the green, they love watching football with you because of your mind about the game. Other players say that, you know that, I, I say it, you wouldn't say it. And so, is the same preparation for you now going to doing the broadcasting stuff as it did playing? And is that why you're so unprepared?

• 20:08Speaker 02

  Very similar.

• 20:08Ed Mylett?

  Really?

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Very similar.

• 20:09Ed Mylett?

  You used to watch film even?

• 20:10Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 20:11Ed Mylett?

  You do?

• 20:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, I enjoy it.

• 20:12Ed Mylett?

  Wow, you love the football game.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it, it's just a part of, you know, if, if, if. If the NFL Network right now, if there's a game on, like, oh, they show like classic games or whatever, I'm gonna watch that game.

• 20:25Ed Mylett?

  You do.

• 20:26Speaker 02

  As if I hadn't seen it before.

• 20:27Ed Mylett?

  Whether you played in it or not.

• 20:28Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 20:29Ed Mylett?

  That's crazy.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  It's all teaching moments, you know, like, people don't understand, like, they think, okay, they just draw up plays and go play.

• 20:36Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  There's a whole strategy before you play the game, and then once you start the game.

• 20:42Ed Mylett?

  There's adjustments.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  You have a plan, I have a plan. Somebody's plan is not working.

• 20:48Ed Mylett?

  Yes, right?

• 20:49Speaker 02

  Alright, now, when your plan is not working, what are you going to do?

• 20:54Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  And then I have to decide, is that enough to get me out of my game plan?

• 20:58Ed Mylett?

  Right, yeah, yeah.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  And then if you get me out of my game plan, do I show what I'm going to do versus this? Because I might have a divisional opponent next week.

• 21:09Ed Mylett?

  Wow, wow.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  I mean, there's so much that goes into it.

• 21:12Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 21:13Speaker 02

  That's why when you get to the playoffs, and you don't know if you're going to play the next week, you're all in.

• 21:18Ed Mylett?

  Everything's in then.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Everything's in.

• 21:20Ed Mylett?

  So guys will actually not reveal things in particular weeks because of who they're playing. That's fascinating. What do you, I'm curious, and we're gonna shift into business in a second, but I'm curious, what do you miss about playing? Because we got, like, just right now talking to you, camera went on, all of a sudden, we started talking about football, like, your face changed. Just so you know, like, you're lit up, you're, I can feel your intensity, right? So what do you miss most about it?

• 21:39Speaker 02

  The locker room.

• 21:40Ed Mylett?

  You do.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  The camaraderie.

• 21:41Ed Mylett?

  Guys say that a lot.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  You don't, I don't care what we do as a civilian, you don't, when you don't, when you're not playing a team sport, you can never get that feeling. At the country club?

• 21:54Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  We're not sitting around.

• 21:55Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 21:56Speaker 02

  And our boxers talking about like, we're not in the hot tub, we're not in the jacuzzi, in the steam room piled all in, talking about this week's opponent, which we're just not, we're not doing that. We're not sharing stories of what happened last night, or, or, you can't, took his first steps, and I'm proud you were as a father, or, you're not, you're not, you don't have, you don't have that intimate setting to really conjugate as men. We don't have that. Women, they somehow get it.

• 22:26Ed Mylett?

  Right, they find a way.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  We don't, we don't have that.

• 22:28Ed Mylett?

  That's it, it's the locker room.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  And you only get it in team sports.

• 22:31Ed Mylett?

  Wow, that is, and team business too, by the way, some of you that are building team business, you get something similar to that. Uh, one last football question, what don't you miss? Is it how you feel Mondays? Or what do you not miss about playing football?

• 22:44Ed Mylett?

  I've had guys tell me Mondays like I ran before running back. I've been through, you know, 30 car accidents.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't play that way. You know, I didn't. I didn't. I never was out to prove that I was more macho than anybody else. I just, I wanted to do my job. And if I got my job done and I didn't have a headache, fine.

• 23:02Ed Mylett?

  Really?

• 23:03Speaker 02

  So, but um, what don't I miss?

• 23:06Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. You love it. Look at you.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  I'm just thinking. I mean, I mean, cause I, cause I

• 23:13Speaker 02

  probably, uh,

• 23:16Speaker 02

  you know, there's, there's the, the work, losing.

• 23:19Ed Mylett?

  Lu-

• 23:20Speaker 02

  I'll be honest. I'm thinking about it. Because you put so much work into it.

• 23:24Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  Um, and I, I know it's not war, but blood, sweat and tears are out there.

• 23:29Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  And, uh, you know, when those 60 minutes are up and you lost.

• 23:33Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Um, it's a bad, it's a miserable feeling. It's a awful feeling.

• 23:38Ed Mylett?

  Yeah. For, for the great ones, it is. I think we both played with guys who didn't bother quite as much.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that's true. Some guys were in it for the job. It was a job for them.

• 23:46Ed Mylett?

  I'm fascinated by getting in the mind of a, a champion of a Hall of Famer. And so the last football part, I mean, I'm literally, it's fascinating for me. Like, cause you do this stuff for flexibility. Like, this is who you are. But not everybody's this way. Not, you know, people need to learn these things and oftentimes. Now you're a member though of the greatest team, right? There's something really special to becoming a Hall of Famer. What was that like? Like the call and being a part of that group now for, forever? I mean, down in history, someday your great grandchildren are gonna be part of that legacy that you're in the Hall of Fame in the NFL. So what's that feel like?

• 24:17Speaker 02

  It was, and it still is surreal. Um, I'm a football junkie.

• 24:22Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, you are.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Uh, part of my story is, uh, being from New Orleans, poor, not being able to ever see a pro game by buying a ticket. I paid, I, when, you know, at the age of 13, 14, 15 and 16, I would, I would hustle up to get five, 10 bucks, whatever it was, the price increased. You had to pay that to get your rack to sell your popcorn or your peanuts. That's how I got to watch games.

• 24:50Ed Mylett?

  Wow.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  So I'm a football junkie.

• 24:52Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  Respect the game. Love the game, appreciate everything that was done by the guys who was before us. Uh, who made the game what it is so, so we can have the lives that we have. People don't understand, they have summer jobs. They sometimes work during the season after practice, they have to go to work. It, it was totally different than the game that we play now and how we have it. Yeah. And I get an opportunity to see these men.

• 25:21Speaker 02

  Dawn a yellow jacket and call myself a Hall of Famer, I have a number. Just like they have a number and I get to call them teammates, I get to call them friends, I get to socialize. I, I get to sit down next to Tony Dorsett. Yeah. And, and, and, and just. Must be. How you doing? How's it going?

• 25:42Speaker 02

  It's, it's, you know, when you think about it, I, I grew up with Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith, Eric Dickerson. Yeah. I grew up idolizing these guys. Now you're on the same team. And now, now, um, they talk, we, they talk to me like we're friends. You know how cool this is? You know, and, and that's, that's the, that's the reality of being a part. They embrace me, they, you know, they take you under their wing, they tell you. Hey, young fella, you gotta take care of yourself when you get old. Right. They advise you the things and it's, you know, I have five older brothers. It's, but it's so different. Yeah. Um, the advice and, and, and, and being a part of that.

• 26:24Speaker 02

  And, and having the opportunity to just, to just, to just rub elbows with those guys, man. I sit around and listen to the stories. Yeah. You know, and, and, uh, we have that week, that Hall of Fame week. Um, it, it's unbelievable when we welcome the new guys in, but to hear the older guys talk. And I actually, um, just this.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  Past, actually last year, July was my first time getting to speak at the Niski luncheon. I got to speak. I mean, it's like, you know, Willie LeNeer was like, hey, Marshall, you know, tell us about your experience. I'm like, oh, my God, I get to tell people about my experience. So, you know, it's just fascinating. And now for me, you know, I was part of the new wave that came in in 2011, in 2011. And now, a bunch of the guys that's coming in are guys that I played against, Brian Urlacher, you know, Derrick Brooks came in last year. I'm like, it's so cool now. Not only is it guys that I looked up to, but now it's guys that I compete against.

• 27:28Speaker 02

  It's awesome.

• 27:30Ed Mylett?

  That's awesome. I'm having Trell Owens on my show in a few weeks, and I'm going to play him this clip so that he can see this. It's so good for me, just so you know, because obviously, my generation, you're a hero of mine, just to see how grateful you are. I don't think all people give themselves the gift of gratitude. Like, you're grateful for all this. I asked you what it's like to be like. You could have given me a million answers. Your answer was gratitude, you know, and that's just wonderful. That's so wonderful.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  It's the reason we have the game that we have.

• 27:56Ed Mylett?

  Awesome. I love your passion. I'm like, I'm so grateful that you're doing this. Man, that just struck me, because I didn't know that would be what you would answer. So, that's just so powerful. I want to segue a little bit into your work as because of a Hall of Famer. You're real passionate about these former players, like, not only the ones that are on your team now in the Hall of Fame, but also you're doing some work now that you're passionate about both for inner cities when it comes to the financial services business a little bit. And then also, you're partnering with a couple of my colleagues with Hannah and Bobby at our firm. And also, you're really working with former players, and I know you got a passion for inner city stuff. So, talk a little bit, how'd you step into this, into the financial sector, so to speak?

• 28:32Speaker 02

  You know, I've always, I...

• 28:36Speaker 02

  Actually, I go back to my college days. I was interning in the Public Relations Office for the San Diego Padres. And at the time, the San Diego Padres and the San Diego Chargers shared the stadium together. Okay. And I got to meet Junior Seau. Okay. And Junior said to me, you know, whatever you do, you're going to be a great player. Just remember, this community, give back. And I was like, okay, whatever. Right. And then I watched what he did with his foundation in San Diego and how, you know, he went back to Oceanside and not just Oceanside, but all of San Diego.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  His thing was uplifting people. Yeah. You know, reaching that hand out, trying to make sure other people had an opportunity. And for me, you know, that became kind of my thing, philanthropy. I wanted to, my rookie year, I did a football camp, 1994. We did a football camp, we raised money, gave the money to the Boys and Girls Club, started from there. Then I started doing golf tournaments. Then we traveled to the Super Bowl to do golf tournaments and provide experiences. And my foundation started to grow and I wanted to give back and have inner-city kids like myself who was not exposed to much, just so they can see there's more to life than what's on the

• 30:05Speaker 02

  street corner. Wonderful. And drugs, gangs, affiliations with bad things. You know, there's other things out there. And we figured out, if you expose them, if you show them college, they're going to want college. You know, if you show them, if you show them this beach, they're going to try to get to this beach. They're going to try to get back to it. Yeah. And those are things that sometimes as adults, we don't understand. Yeah. Kids.

• 30:30Speaker 02

  They sometime need to be shown a dream.

• 30:33Ed Mylett?

  You're right.

• 30:34Speaker 02

  So they can dream, so they then have a blueprint to follow.

• 30:37Ed Mylett?

  That's so true. If you're living in a nightmare all the time, you're not about dreaming about things all the time.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  That's it. That's it.

• 30:41Ed Mylett?

  Yeah, it's very true.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  It's nightmares, it's not dreams.

• 30:44Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 02

  Your dream is you got shot. Your dream is your house got robbed. Your dream is you got kidnapped. Yeah, exactly.

• 30:50Ed Mylett?

  There's a big leap between survival and actually chasing a dream. And so, I think it's wonderful. What about the former players? Like, you know, I've had a lot of guys on us, something I noticed too. Just from a career standpoint or a life standpoint, I know you're passionate about even former players too. Like, what are you doing with those guys and how are you helping them?

• 31:06Speaker 02

  Well, we, I do as much as possible with any type of fundraising that goes on.

• 31:14Ed Mylett?

  Do you?

• 31:14Speaker 02

  For former players, any way that we can help. And my newest partnership, obviously, you know, with WFG and what they do, but but you already financial partners.

• 31:25Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  We've kind of signed on a deal with the NFL alumni.

• 31:29Ed Mylett?

  Yeah.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  To kind of bring them the services that we offer, to give them an opportunity to see what

• 31:37Speaker 02

  and it's crazy, but what having financial freedom is all about and having a financial education.

• 31:43Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Understanding all the things that are out there for you.

• 31:48Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 31:48Speaker 02

  All the different tax laws, all the different loopholes.

• 31:50Ed Mylett?

  Yep.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  That if you don't have enough money and you can't go to Goldman Sachs.

• 31:54Ed Mylett?

  Right.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  And stuff like that, you're not going to understand. Well, we've provided techniques and tools for them to use. And it doesn't matter what your level of wealth is, what your level of income is. If you want to leave a legacy for your family, for your kids.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  We can help you create that. It doesn't matter how much you make.

• 32:17Ed Mylett?

  Yes.

• 32:17Speaker 02

  You know, it's about, it's about how much you put away and how smart you are with what you make.

• 32:22Ed Mylett?

  That's so true. I'm amazed at you. Like, I don't have a meta athlete who's able to speak on so many different things. No, really. I mean, seriously, when it comes to, we talked about golf before the interview, football, business, life and... I'm really excited that we're partnering with you on this stuff too. I think it's wonderful and I love your heart, brother. Like I love people who pay it forward because you've had a blessed life. You've worked really hard for it. But it's this gratitude that you have. It's such an important emotion that we all have. I love what you've talked about being a separator. I want to be curious because there's a lot of young people that watch my stuff. They look up to you, obviously, and we've got a few minutes left. But I would mess up if I didn't give you a chance to like address young people because you're talking about inner-city kids as well. So let's say one of these kids, no matter who's watching this, they got out of that nightmare and they got a dream.

• 33:03Ed Mylett?

  It's to play in the NFL. It's to be an astronaut. It's to be a successful businesswoman, whatever it is. What advice would you give a young person who wants to chase their dream? What counsel would you give them, Bud?

• 33:13Speaker 02

  I mean, it's chasing a dream is easy. It's your dream. The stupid thing is to not chase it because you own it. But I just encourage them to always look back, try to help others, and try to help others get ahead. Be careful of the people who want to take advantage of you and only do the things that you're passionate about. Don't do them because they're popular.

• 33:36Ed Mylett?

  Man, that is, the thing I got from you when we were off-camera and we're on is I think sometimes I discount people that are great at something that they're passionate for it. Like, you love football.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 33:46Ed Mylett?

  I actually think you love to compete.

• 33:48Speaker 02

  Oh, without a doubt.

• 33:49Ed Mylett?

  I think it's like, I think if we're playing golf, I mean, all of a sudden I saw your face change. We were talking golf. I talk about golf like it's fun. You talk about golf like, hey, I'm not playing around with this here.

• 33:56Speaker 02

  You and I, we're competing right now. I just want to make sure that I'm better than you on your podcast. You don't know that, but I just wanted you to know.

• 34:03Ed Mylett?

  Well, I wish you the best of luck on that. No, I enjoyed today so much, my friend. Seriously. We went, I want to go longer, but we went as long as I'm permitted to go because I want to be respectful of your time and everybody else's time here. This is how a Hall of Famer thinks, but more importantly, everybody, this is how a Hall of Fame person acts and conducts their life. They're grateful. They give back. They pay it forward and they're humble about all of their successes. So from all the way back to you kicking the heck out of UOP in 1991.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  You got your revenge at the Super Bowl with the Patriots.

• 34:31Ed Mylett?

  I did get a little bit, but I went on that team. But what I got was I got to make a dream come true of mine, which was meeting you today.

• 34:37Speaker 02

  Oh, man.

• 34:37Ed Mylett?

  And spending some time and I'm excited about our new partnership together and I want to thank you so much for today. Everyone out there, you know I bring these unbelievable people to you for free. Here's all I ask, right? It's free. Just give myself and the podcast a nice review on iTunes or a comment here on YouTube. Say some great things about us and please continue to follow Marshall Phoc and the progress he's having in his career. Max out, everybody. God bless you.

• 35:04Speaker 01

  This is The Ed Martin Show.