SLINGING CANDLES Ft. Juju Green | Episode 191

This week, Drew is joined by one of our favorite film reviewers, Juju Green (aka Straw Hat Goofy)! Drew and Juju talk about what happens when a famous director doesn’t like your review, their run-in at Disneyland, getting put on the spot at a Comic-Con panel, Juju’s old job at Bath & Body Works, and so much more. Juju IG: https://www.instagram.com/straw_hat_goofy/?hl=en JuJu TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@straw_hat_goofy?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ eBay is the place for pre-loved and vintage fashion. Get beauty from people who get beauty, Only at Sephora Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:32Drew Afualo?

  You used to be a sales associate at Bath and Body Works.

• 0:36Drew Afualo?

  How do you know this out? What? I feel like you would sling a candle like nobody's business. I feel like you would kill sales.

• 0:50Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show, starring me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today. We have for our next installment of the spooky season, the one, the only, the hilarious, the iconically talented Juju Green, AKA Straw Hat Goofy.

• 1:06Speaker 02

  Hi, guys. How's it going? Hello. I care about you.

• 1:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  Like, very much.

• 1:11Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, because nobody here does.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  As she said, she got family, sisters.

• 1:16Drew Afualo?

  None of the people behind this camera care about me.

• 1:18Speaker 02

  Nobody here. It's just us. All we know, all we need is each other right here.

• 1:22Drew Afualo?

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• 1:56Speaker 02

  A fish and a burger. Who would have thought?

• 1:57Drew Afualo?

  Two best friends.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  Hey, you just called yourself like the fish from SpongeBob.

• 2:02Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I'm giving narrator.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  Am I a Krabby Patty?

• 2:06Drew Afualo?

  Wow, yes.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  Krabby Patty and the fish.

• 2:10Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  We did not plan this at all. Listen, I'm down with this.

• 2:13Drew Afualo?

  And nobody's SpongeBob because that's basic. Yeah, we went niche.

• 2:16Speaker 02

  Exactly. Who wants to go with SpongeBob?

• 2:17Drew Afualo?

  We went with like niche concept costumes.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  Exactly. It's the MyLeg guy.

• 2:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  You go with Mrs. Puff.

• 2:24Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  You know, you go, oh, the chocolate, the chocolate, like this.

• 2:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, my favorite side character would be the guy who's like, my diet Dr. Kel. That guy. That, he stole me because I can't eat without a drink.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37Drew Afualo?

  So I too would berate the pizza worker if he forgot my big drink.

• 2:40Speaker 02

  Honestly, fair. This is like before DoorDash was a thing.

• 2:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 2:42Speaker 02

  And it's like, bro, I called you, you said you go order.

• 2:45Drew Afualo?

  There's a storm outside.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  It took them legit like two days to get to him. Like, I would be pissed off too.

• 2:50Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  All that and you forget my drink?

• 2:53Drew Afualo?

  Exactly, exactly. All that hoopla for nothing.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Come on, hoopla.

• 2:56Drew Afualo?

  Anyways, I am happy to have you on the show.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  I'm happy to be here.

• 3:00Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming here. You and I, we go way back.

• 3:02Speaker 02

  We all like, like, it feels like the beginning of like TikTok as we know it.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  I know. Like, we were in the same wave, I feel like.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  And I like that. Same like draft class.

• 3:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. You and I both went round one.

• 3:13Speaker 02

  I think so, yeah, round one. I think, I think like you went like one. I feel like I'm like 12, like, you know? I feel like, I feel like, I'm like, you know?

• 3:21Drew Afualo?

  You're tripping.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Listen, 12 is good. 12 is good. I think Kobe was like 13.

• 3:25Drew Afualo?

  I know. Now we, now we're seeing your, like, I guess have seniority.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 3:30Drew Afualo?

  We're seeing your citizens, honestly, on TikTok.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Thinking a little bit. I've been called unk many a time.

• 3:34Drew Afualo?

  You and me both. I'm sick of it.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Honestly, I don't mind. Like, my hairline's starting to recede. Like, I'm, I'm starting to reach.

• 3:42Drew Afualo?

  I don't think so.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  I mean, I'm just subconscious about it. That's, well, my daughter basically calls it out. She's terrified of me being bald. Like, every time I get a haircut, she's like, Dad.

• 3:50Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  No, don't do it. And I'm like, why do you think that? She says, because you're already kind of bald.

• 3:54Drew Afualo?

  She's like, I can see it. Obviously, I have eyes.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  Because you're looking from my chest up. You can't see the rest.

• 3:58Drew Afualo?

  You don't know what's going on back there. You're too small.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  So I'm just like, I'm just embracing it preemptively before it gets like real bad.

• 4:04Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I call it power bald. Like, my man obviously has really long hair, but he told me like, the second it starts to wean even a little.

• 4:14Speaker 02

  The whole thing.

• 4:14Drew Afualo?

  Bicking the whole head.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  Aye.

• 4:16Drew Afualo?

  And he's gonna grow the beard longer.

• 4:18Speaker 02

  That's what I was gonna do.

• 4:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so he has a plan.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  This is about to go crazy.

• 4:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and my dad's bald.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, oh, you're good.

• 4:24Drew Afualo?

  I've got permission from all bald people.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  You guys are setting like family precedence.

• 4:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, my dad, my dad's bald. He was like over it. Don't need it anymore.

• 4:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, my dad's bald too.

• 4:33Drew Afualo?

  Bald as hell.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 4:34Drew Afualo?

  And bald dads are great dads.

• 4:36Speaker 02

  Bald, my dad was in prison for my whole life, so it's fine.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  You're still, I'm sure you would have been a great dad.

• 4:44Drew Afualo?

  Can and will be great dads sometimes.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Exactly. He's great now. Like, you know, he's really great. He's awesome.

• 4:49Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 4:53Drew Afualo?

  But thankfully, you're not bald yet. I think you got a great hairline still.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Uh, as long as I'm not like Tyler Perry's definition of like a black man in America, because they're always mean. They're always bald and they're always dark skinned. So I feel like I'm fighting against the Tyler Perry stereotype.

• 5:08Drew Afualo?

  Girl, hang on just a little bit longer.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  Just a little bit longer. My niceness goes away with the hairline, apparently.

• 5:14Drew Afualo?

  Well, speaking of our senior class, when we were drafted many a year ago, you've been very busy.

• 5:21Speaker 02

  I've been very busy. I feel like I've been busy.

• 5:23Drew Afualo?

  The movie guy, everyone's favorite movie guy.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  Well, I don't know about everyone's favorite, but like I, hopefully I'm like enough people's movie guy.

• 5:29Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 5:29Speaker 02

  Been doing a lot and working really hard.

• 5:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Cement this, because you know, social media is fleeting. Like it's, it always feels like it's gonna go away. The TikTok, we had how many scares now?

• 5:39Drew Afualo?

  I know, for real. I lost count at this point.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  I lost count.

• 5:42Drew Afualo?

  To be honest, every day it's like, it's gonna be deleted tomorrow. And I, at this point, I'm like, alright.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, at this point, I'm like, just do it already. Just do it.

• 5:50Drew Afualo?

  Quit edging me. Just do it already.

• 5:52Speaker 02

  And I don't like to be edged.

• 5:54Drew Afualo?

  I don't appreciate it.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  I mean, sometimes, but like in this sense, I'm like, please, just stop. We've been edging for like a good while. And so with that in mind, I've always just kind of like tried to separate myself from like, you know, just being TikTok, because I still love TikTok.

• 6:08Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  I still love making TikToks. It's just like, you know, how do I expand?

• 6:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, diversify.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  How do I diversify? You've done really well at doing that, like with the podcast, your fucking book. Like, come on, like.

• 6:20Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  I feel like, like you've transcended what social media can be, right?

• 6:26Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same about you.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  You know, it's so like, how do you feel like, cause I don't want to interview you on your own podcast.

• 6:33Drew Afualo?

  No, it's okay.

• 6:34Speaker 02

  How do you feel like being where you're at now? Do you feel like you've transcended? Like, are you like in the, or do you just feel like normal and you're just trying to maintain?

• 6:42Drew Afualo?

  Um, I feel at this point in my career, I feel like I'm in purgatory. I'm in like a middle area.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:47Drew Afualo?

  So like, I'm not quite like, oh, that girl on TikTok. Um, I'm a little bit past that now, but I were, you've been to just as many award shows as I've been to.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  Right.

• 6:56Drew Afualo?

  We're not quite there.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  That.

• 6:58Drew Afualo?

  We've been to quite a few events, like premieres, all that stuff. And you know, like when you go there, of course they invite us because people watch us.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:05Drew Afualo?

  But then when you get in those rooms with higher level talent, or just the help.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. That's, that's when you get the rude awakening of just kinda like people, you guys who watch me on your phones think like, I, we're big, like, you know, we have all these things going for us. But then when you're like standing face to face with someone like Leonardo DiCaprio or The Rock, and they have no idea who you are, what you do, or where you come from, you're just kinda like, okay, that's where I am.

• 7:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're like right there in the middle.

• 7:30Speaker 02

  There's levels to this.

• 7:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, in that weird spot.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I feel like, you know, we can appreciate the levels, uh, if that makes sense.

• 7:37Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 7:38Speaker 02

  I feel like there's categories of like these type of things. Like, you may not watch sports, but that still doesn't mean someone like a Kevin Durant is not like the highest performing guy there.

• 7:48Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  So I feel like in our kind of like stratosphere, you can consider us the top dogs. And there are people who really just only consume content from that stratosphere. And that's really cool. But when it comes to like intermingling, like you said, like being the help in certain situations, there's levels to this, you know?

• 8:05Drew Afualo?

  It's true. And it's also like, it's driven by ego more than anything in my opinion. Like I've, we've been in enough rooms now to know like that's more ego than anything. Cause obviously there's a reason why we're in the room. But I, I joke all the time, cause I say like, honestly, like high, high, high level talent, like what you would consider your average celebrity.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  Right.

• 8:23Drew Afualo?

  They're actually more oftentimes than not, a lot nicer, in my opinion, than like reality star people.

• 8:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:30Drew Afualo?

  Reality star people, like we're in, we're in different buckets, right? Like we're social people, there's reality star people, there's like. Actual A level talent.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:38Drew Afualo?

  And then we're all kind of mixed in between in these rooms. And I was like, the only people that have ever been rude to me, like in my experience thus far, have been reality stars. Because they think they're more famous than us. And and I think we're the same, if we're being real. Like, I feel like we're on the same level.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, I I feel like that too, because I feel like we're all just living in a reality. We're all putting our lives online.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  But I think like there is a level of just kind of like, once you get that taste of fame, it's like, what are you gonna do with it, right? Who are you gonna become once you get that little taste? Some people will hit like 10,000 followers on Instagram and say like, I'm an influencer, can you cop me my meal? It's like, wait a minute, who are you? Like, I'm sorry, like, what? Like, you know? And they they somehow, there's like a delusion of like, oh, because of these 10K, I'm just as big as Huda. Or just as big as Dwayne, like, you should know who I am. They're like, what? I had that one viral video, so of course you've seen it, right?

• 9:36Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  And for me, I've I've always tried to stay grounded when I, like, I know where I come from. Like, I know I'm just a guy who just puts out, like, fun movie videos. I'm just off the top of the dome. It's really not that deep for me. So like, whenever I hear people be like, oh, you think you're so much bigger than what you are. I'm like, I really, my self-esteem is so low.

• 9:56Drew Afualo?

  Never do. Trust me. I, well, and also too, like, sometimes when, because we've worked carpets, like you and I. Sometimes when I work carpets, like, you know, like, stars are online like us, like, they're on TikTok like us. So they they do have brain rot.

• 10:09Speaker 02

  You have that overlap.

• 10:10Drew Afualo?

  And they're like, oh, my God, I love your stuff. I think you're so funny. I think you're so cool. And sometimes when I'm, you know, when you work in those little press pits, you sit in those little pig pens. And then you're like, shoulder to shoulder with everybody. And so sometimes when when A level talent will recognize me and they're like, oh, my God, I love your stuff. And they walk away. Enough times it happens, people next to me will be like, what do you do?

• 10:32Speaker 02

  What do you do?

• 10:35Drew Afualo?

  I literally go, honestly, nothing interesting. Like, I literally tell them, I tell wiener jokes on the internet. Like, that's pretty much it.

• 10:40Speaker 02

  You're really good at it.

• 10:41Drew Afualo?

  That's the certain stop of it, to be honest.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  Telling wiener jokes, and someone like LeBron James is like, fuck. Fuck yeah, this girl right here like.

• 10:48Drew Afualo?

  They're like, I love this girl.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  That's dope. And that's, and that's honestly where the real magic happens, right?

• 10:52Drew Afualo?

  I think so.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Like, cause I feel like we put like those like A-list level talent on such a level that like it, we dehumanize them a little bit.

• 11:00Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  And I feel like the fact that they do like watch us and they do get that brain rot and they acknowledge it.

• 11:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  That's where the true like humanization comes from. And that's where it's like, oh, we're all people just kinda like existing.

• 11:10Drew Afualo?

  And it's more fun that way.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  It's way more fun that way.

• 11:13Drew Afualo?

  Like they really, I feel like they genuinely appreciate when you pop those levels for them.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:17Drew Afualo?

  And you just talk to them like they're, I literally said, I was like, I like talking to them like they're just some regular bitch on the street.

• 11:22Speaker 02

  Right.

• 11:22Drew Afualo?

  That's how I like talking to them, cause that's how I talk to everybody.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 11:25Drew Afualo?

  I greet everybody the same. Everybody has the same level of candor from me and fervor. And I think that makes it more fun and interesting.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  And that's what makes them more open to you.

• 11:32Drew Afualo?

  I agree. I think you're a great interviewer too. So I feel like that's why they liken to you as well.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause I don't give a fuck.

• 11:37Drew Afualo?

  Neither. Like, I never care. I don't, I don't give a damn. I don't care about anything.

• 11:43Speaker 02

  I, uh, I just told this story for the first time online and I'm gonna tell it to you, like, cause I'm gonna hold on, I'm gonna hold on to this forever. Uh, I out-famous Pedro Pascal one time.

• 11:52Drew Afualo?

  No way.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  I did, I did.

• 11:54Drew Afualo?

  You cucked Pedro Pascal?

• 11:55Speaker 02

  I cucked Pedro Pascal. I kinda did.

• 11:57Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's on my bucket list. I'm gonna cuck him so bad. Pedro, let me know.

• 12:01Speaker 02

  I wasn't, listen, Pedro. Let me know if you remember this and let this happen, alright? But this was like a couple of years ago and it was at this, uh, after-party that I snuck into for Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.

• 12:13Drew Afualo?

  Okay, gee.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  And, uh, my friend, uh, I think you know her, Liv Piersol.

• 12:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  We were there together and she was just kinda like, I really wanna meet Pedro, like, he's really cool and like, but she's like, I don't know how to approach a famous person.

• 12:24Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  And I was like, I don't give a fuck. Like, follow me, I'll talk to him and then I'll just scoot you in there.

• 12:30Drew Afualo?

  You are so friendly. You're like so outgoing at those parties. I see you work in those rooms.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Listen, yeah, I just dance. That's all.

• 12:38Speaker 02

  I go there, I look for the dance floor and no alcohol either too, just all like vibes.

• 12:41Drew Afualo?

  I know, it's true. You're purely off vibes.

• 12:44Speaker 02

  I, yeah, that's, that's how I live my life. That's just how I like to get down. So, uh, we go over there and like Pedro's like surrounded by a circle of people. And like everyone's trying to get his photo and he's like soup, first, Pedro's like one of the. nicest celebrities.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Real deal, real article, one of the nicest, most genuine celebrities I've ever seen. It's like almost he doesn't realize he's a celebrity still, right?

• 13:06Drew Afualo?

  Sweet, I love that.

• 13:07Speaker 02

  So he's there, he's got his hands like this, he's just smiling at everyone the whole time. He's taking everyone one by one, giving them their time. And then finally, this woman, she walks up to him and says, hey, my son's a really big fan of you. He loves the Mandalorian, can he take a picture with you? He goes, yeah, of course, like bring him over. So like Pedro's here, kid is here, I'm like in the middle watching this happen. As the kid's crossing over, he like sees me out the corner of his eye, flips his shit like, oh my god, you're straw hat goofy like, I love your movie. And he runs from where he was going to me, says, oh my god, can I get a photo? Like, I'm so happy that you did it. And at this point, like I'm looking at Pedro and Pedro's like got this eyebrow raised like huh? What? Like what's happening? Who is this?

• 13:48Speaker 02

  And I'm like, you know what, let me, let me work this situation to the best I can. So I look at the kid and I say, of course you can take a photo with me, man. Just go ahead and take a photo with Pedro first and then come back.

• 13:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'll, do you want to get your fan first?

• 14:06Speaker 02

  And so he takes a photo with him, runs back to me, takes a photo, like gives me a like dap of whatever, walks away. And then now it's just me, Pedro, my friend Liv, and maybe like a couple of other people. He like literally just kind of like scoots over to me like this and goes, I'm sorry, who are you? And I'm like, well, again, I just make videos.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  He probably just saw a couple of my Marvel videos and he likes them on TikTok. And he, we really got to have a genuine conversation about movies. Like the whole ecosystem of like creators of movies and stuff like that. And then we partied for the rest of the night with me, him and Tiffany Haddish. It was really dope.

• 14:40Drew Afualo?

  That's so funny. I, I recently went to a, a party. I got invited to like a party and there was a lot, a lot of famous people there. And I took my girlfriend and we were like, we were hanging out, having a good time. And then, uh, but mind you, like, there was like the most famous people I've seen in a while, like in a house party setting and it was like, uh, Trevor Noah was there, like Mahershala Ali was there, like, everyone, everyone who's anyone was there, which was cool. And I was sitting at the table with my friend and we were talking and then this girl came over and she was like, I can't believe you're here. And she was like, oh my fucking god. Like, she was like, literally, she's like, I'm sorry, I have to freak out, I have to freak out for just a second. And I didn't, I didn't know her at the, I like, I didn't know who she was.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Right.

• 15:24Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, oh, girl, you can freak out whatever you, you do whatever you want, girl. And then she was like, I'm such a big fan. I've followed you since twenty twenty one. Like, she's like giving me all this rundown of my, like, history. Like, she was like, the very first video I ever saw of you was this one. And I, that's a video I didn't even remember I fucking did. So I was like, holy shit, okay, like, a ground floor fan, period.

• 15:43Speaker 02

  You are a day one A one.

• 15:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, for real. And her and I were just king about it. And I was like, she goes, I am so, I'm, I can go home, like, I'm so excited. And she goes, you're like the most famous person in the world to me in this party. And I said, hey, make sure you tell Trevor Noah that. Go tell him that.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  They use that cachet.

• 16:01Drew Afualo?

  He's not better than me.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Can you say that again? Let's just do it over here.

• 16:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, do it a little bit closer to him, let him know. But I love shit like that. It's great. It's really fun and it is honestly a conversation starter.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, one hundred.

• 16:13Drew Afualo?

  I would say for, especially for other talent to see you and be like, yeah, what do you do?

• 16:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:19Drew Afualo?

  Cause they, they're like, I feel like I should know you if someone freaks out like that about you.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  And I think like, it's, it's a double edged sword because like, that's like the, cause I'm, I'm guessing this was in LA. Like, where it's happening. It's like the double edged sword of LA where it's like, oh, you're, people know you, so I should know you. Like, let's start a relationship because like, you know, you're,

• 16:35Drew Afualo?

  So what do you do?

• 16:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly. And like, you know, I, I feel gross sometimes when that happens, but a lot of times when like people walk up to me and like, you know, they're showing me appreciation for what I do, I go like, oh, wow, like, you watch it. Like, you know, and that's, that's always like the goal, right? Whenever we make things, I never got into this to like, become like,

• 16:55Drew Afualo?

  Like famous or well known.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  That. I just wanted to put my opinions out there.

• 16:59Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  So, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's literally the. Bet rock of what we do is just, let's just put up what is on our minds right here.

• 17:05Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  It's never like to gain anything from it.

• 17:09Drew Afualo?

  You're right.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  And so whenever like somebody does tell me, especially when it's like, like a high level person that says like, I fuck with your shit.

• 17:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  I'd be like, really? Like, I just threw that shit out like on a whim, just cause like I, I don't have anybody else to talk about it with.

• 17:22Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  And I, I wanna know like from you, like who's like the biggest person, uh, actually no, fuck that. What, who was the first person that like walked up to you and was like, oh my god, like I'm such a fan of what you do and you were just like, you?

• 17:36Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, well you answer first. I would like to know the same thing for you if you have one.

• 17:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do, I do have one.

• 17:43Drew Afualo?

  Please, please.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  Never, I'll never forget it. It was AJ McLean from the Backstreet Boys.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  It was, it was the most random thing. I was so, it was at my first ever red carpet. It was for Dwayne Johnson, funny, we were talking about him.

• 17:57Drew Afualo?

  Oh, love him, yeah.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Jungle Cruise.

• 18:00Drew Afualo?

  Okay, too.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  It was at Disneyland, someplace that I used to work at, so I'm kind of like, already having all these emotions, like going back to a place that I used to work at. Like it's a whole full circle thing. I'm seeing all my coworkers and everything while also just trying to be out the way. It's my first red carpet. I don't wanna step on nobody's toes. I'm just trying to stay out the way. So and my friend Tay, I kept asking her like, am I doing alright? Am I, am I looking good? She goes, yeah, you're fine, you're fine. And out of nowhere, I hear someone just goes, straw hat goofy.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  What the fuck was that? And I thought I did something wrong.

• 18:30Drew Afualo?

  You said not my government name.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Oh my, no, I was like, oh no, what? Who's coming for me? And I turn around and I just see AJ just like beelining it towards me. And, and, and for a minute I'm thinking to myself, cause he still looks like the bad boy of the group, so I'm thinking like I'm about to get my ass kicked, like honestly. Like I, I thought I said something about a movie that somebody had beef with. And he like comes up, gasps me up and says, AJ from the Backstreet Boys, I wanted to say I love your shit, love what you're doing with the Marvel shit. Every time something Marvel comes out, I just wanna let you know I'm on that shit like first day. And I'm just like.

• 19:00Drew Afualo?

  He's honestly so real for that because I lean on YouTube for those opinions.

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Well, I appreciate that.

• 19:05Drew Afualo?

  The Marvel stuff especially, I was always like, well, I gotta see what Strawhead says first.

• 19:08Speaker 02

  Well, I really appreciate that. Like, like, I, again, it's a double edged sword for me because I'm just like, don't always lean into what I say. Like, I don't want to be the end all be all of like, the opinion on that.

• 19:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Because then that creates like, people say, well, what makes him like, the foremost voice on it?

• 19:24Drew Afualo?

  Nothing at all, just the love of the game.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, just the love of the game, right? And so like, I tell people, hey, get multiple sources.

• 19:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, that's why I love you. I love Jay Stubbs, I love Cinema Joe.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  Oh, my god, Kit Laser is like, oh.

• 19:35Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, and we're always aligned, that's why. Like, I'm always like, this is how I felt, I'm gonna go watch their videos and see if they felt the same way.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  And we have similar tastes.

• 19:43Drew Afualo?

  Yes, that's why I said, Jay Stubbs too, like, she always like the...

• 19:47Speaker 02

  Jay Stubbs.

• 19:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and both of you guys, and same with Cinema Joe too, I feel like, brave. Sometimes you guys don't say what everyone wants you to say, especially when you work in movies.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 19:56Drew Afualo?

  You have to be careful about reviews, but you also have to be honest.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:59Drew Afualo?

  So, that's what I fuck with, with you guys especially, is because you guys are still very honest. Even if you're working with them, you're still very honest.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  You have to be.

• 20:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, I need the integrity of the review.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 20:08Drew Afualo?

  So, that's why I appreciate y'all.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  I'll tell you a story about me, that me and Cinema Joe like, shared on a carpet one time. This is a little bit of tea, and I won't say names, that's how much tea this is, right? You know who you are.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  But, a certain movie came out on a certain platform, and it didn't do well. It was not a good movie. I would just flat out say it wasn't a good movie.

• 20:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Now, this movie had multiple parts to it.

• 20:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  And in my review, I said, "This movie feels like a rev up, not a complete piece of work."

• 20:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  And I don't think I can fully say how I feel about this movie until the other piece of this work comes out.

• 20:45Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  But, that being said, here's what I felt about the movie, da-da-da-da-da-da.

• 20:49Drew Afualo?

  And that's fair.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  And it's fair, right? So, fast forward, I get invited by this service to like, be on the red carpet, ask some questions to a bunch of talent for a bunch of different projects.

• 20:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  And for this particular project, I had the director of it, and then the star of it.

• 21:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  As we get closer, I realized that the director was crossed out. And I go, um, excuse me, why is this director crossed out? And they told me, oh, they basically specifically requested that they do not talk to you.

• 21:17Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god!

• 21:19Speaker 02

  And so, I was like, okay, so I saw the director, they came out, they talked to everybody else, except for me and Cinema Joe. Two people who had very similar reviews on this project. And we literally.

• 21:33Drew Afualo?

  You bitched out, sorry. Like, oh, okay, you're gonna put art out, but don't like when it's critiqued.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  And and and the thing is too, is that like, I like this director a lot. I feel like they've made great work. I felt like they've made terrible work. I went to bat for a lot of work that I consider to be great. And I've also like held them to the fire and said like, this isn't necessarily the best thing you could have done.

• 21:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  And so, but what that told me is if you're truly tapped in online and you saw that review, maybe you should have like tapped into what I, how I feel about you personally.

• 22:04Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  Cause if you would know that, again, I'm a big fan of what you do.

• 22:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  I think you are a like staple in the industry at this point. I don't think you're never gonna, I'm not gonna take your job away from a bad review. You know what I'm saying?

• 22:15Drew Afualo?

  My one video is not gonna unravel it.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  It's not gonna unravel it. And like, at the end of the day, like, I know this is a passing project that there are fans of it. So like, you know, the fact that they were like, oh yeah, we're not gonna talk to you and you and.

• 22:27Drew Afualo?

  Explicitly, yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Explicitly. And it was the moment where I saw the director pass Joe and I look at him and I like do my paper like this and he gives me the.

• 22:37Drew Afualo?

  Nice.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  Both of us. And we were just kinda like, okay, cool. And that's, you know, like, that's the cost of like integrity, right? Like, sometimes directors who like got a little bit of a stick up their butt, like, they get really sensitive. Which you should, like, you know, it's your piece of work, like, you know.

• 22:52Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, you can feel defensive, but I think like bitching out of an interview like that, just on some mean girl shit, cause that's not, that has nothing to do with like, you cannot like the review and you can still pretend.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:01Drew Afualo?

  Because what are the odds you're gonna be like, why's your movie, why was your movie so ass?

• 23:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:05Drew Afualo?

  Probably low. Considering the review, I feel like even when you and and Cinema Joe, for example, when you're like not that big of a fans of it, like, it's still a very kind review.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:16Drew Afualo?

  Like, you're not like, this movie fucking sucks.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  And that's the separation.

• 23:19Drew Afualo?

  I agree. It's professionalism, right?

• 23:21Speaker 02

  It's a professionalism.

• 23:22Drew Afualo?

  There's a decorum about it, like, hey, I didn't love this, but these are some aspects that I did like.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  Exactly. And I and I feel like people who try to, cause we talk about ego, people who try to do what we do. Right? Like, I think they have this thing in their mind of like, if you're not. Like completely blasting a movie, you're not being honest, right? If you're not talking shit on this movie, you're not being honest.

• 23:44Drew Afualo?

  I saw Jay Supes talking about that the other day.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 23:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like it's the era of hating everything or loving everything.

• 23:49Speaker 02

  Or loving everything, but there's no room for the in-between. And like, I'm a positive person, like, I'm not trying to sit out here and like hate shit, right? Like, I will, I will like, like, call out a bad movie and say like, I have questions, like, why is this, why is this, why is this?

• 24:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  I don't really like this. Now, I do realize that some of the movies that I consider terrible, people may love. And I go into every review with that in mind, so I'm not gonna shit on somebody and yuck their yum.

• 24:12Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. Like, you're not speaking to intellect of someone who does enjoy it.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Right.

• 24:17Drew Afualo?

  You're just like, this wasn't my cup of tea.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 24:19Drew Afualo?

  Which is a, a, a fair movie review, to be honest. And some movie reviewers are way fucking meaner than that.

• 24:24Speaker 02

  Oh, my god. Like, like, sometimes I just go like, did the director do something to you?

• 24:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're all, damn, it wasn't that bad.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  It wasn't that bad, like, and like, I feel, and like, you know, there's a place online, it's an echo chamber, and it's filled with like, a bunch of like horrible people where they come on and they just say, this is like the most awful piece of shit I ever saw in my life. Like, I'm dumber for watching it, things of that sort. And it's entertaining, like, you know, it is funny to see somebody tear down a movie, but at the same time, like, people make this.

• 24:50Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  People put

• 24:51Drew Afualo?

  It's art.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  A lot of, it's art. People put a lot of their time into making something like this. And a lot of times, like, the result is not always their fault.

• 24:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Right? So like, like, there's, there's people that I talk to in the industry, and I will say names of these people. Uh, Ryan Coogler.

• 25:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Uh, Tony Straight Up. Straight Up, he was like, bro, we're friends, but like, when I make some shit, like, I need you to tell me.

• 25:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:14Speaker 02

  If it's horrible, I need you to tell me. And I'm like, well, that's one, being a professional with integrity does. And two, that's what a good friend would do, right? Like, like, just be like, hey, like,

• 25:24Drew Afualo?

  Be honest.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  I didn't like it. And so, uh, we talked about him a little bit. Tyreek is also one of those people, cause you saw the reviews for him and whatnot.

• 25:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  And I feel like Marlon and his kind of like reactions to the reviews and everything was just beautifully well said. And like, they take it in stride. And with a supreme understanding, which is kind of like, not everything is gonna be a hit, but like, who knows, maybe even further down the line, there may be some appreciation for it, right? And I remember, you know, I was hanging out with Tyreek right after I had seen the movie.

• 25:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  And, uh, but this is before the movie had, like, its wide release. So he knows I've seen the movie.

• 25:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  And he's watched me for a while.

• 25:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  And he says that he loves that I'm very honest, so he kind of keeps asking me, what did you think about the movie?

• 26:03Drew Afualo?

  Hmm.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  And I was just kind of like, do you want me to tell you right now?

• 26:07Drew Afualo?

  And you want me to be real, yes?

• 26:08Speaker 02

  I could be real with you right now, how I feel about the movie. And he was just like, actually, I just want to like, save it for like, when it actually like blows up and everything. And you know, movie comes out, I give my review. And it's not like, oh, this movie's like, the best thing ever, it's fair review.

• 26:20Drew Afualo?

  And I saw your review, yeah.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, it's fair. And you know, we were texting, like, right after. And, uh, you know, we were just having like, a normal conversation. And like I said, like, the one thing that we could take away from this is that people love you, Tyreek, as a performer, as a person. Like, this press tour that you've been on through this whole time.

• 26:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  People have attached themselves to you.

• 26:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  And like, regardless of what people feel about this movie, your star power is, is proven.

• 26:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Right? And I think that's like, and I think that's something that like, we should hold on to, right?

• 26:47Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  And he says something along the lines of, "I'm a team player, this is bigger than me."

• 26:54Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 26:54Speaker 02

  Right? Like, his ego isn't tied to how well a movie does, or how, how great it is.

• 26:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:59Speaker 02

  He's grateful for the experience.

• 27:00Drew Afualo?

  I would be.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  So, you know what I'm saying? And so, like, like, even with my opinions on his movie.

• 27:06Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:06Speaker 02

  He knows I'm gonna keep it real with him.

• 27:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 27:08Speaker 02

  And he knows that, uh, at the end of the day, he's gonna try his best to just make something dope.

• 27:13Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  So like, with people like Ryan, people like Tyreek Cora in this industry, and like, they make things, and they don't take opinions personal.

• 27:19Drew Afualo?

  Mm.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  Those are the type of people that I feel like, like, are like, the cream of the crop.

• 27:23Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely, I agree. And the ones who will, who will last, there will be longevity there.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 27:27Drew Afualo?

  Because they're not too proud to like, take constructive feedback, I guess I would say. Not, not necessarily criticism, because nobody enjoys criticism, but like...

• 27:36Speaker 02

  But I think constructive feedback is like, yeah.

• 27:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but there is something to be said, though, about like, a director passing you up specifically, like, that's purely ego.

• 27:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, 100%.

• 27:45Drew Afualo?

  So I'm like, your, your ego's too big to even fucking fake it, like, come on, dude, act like you've been there.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  And the sad, and the sad part about it is, is that this director's gonna, they're gonna keep getting jobs.

• 27:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  Right? Like, but I just hope that...

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• 28:35Speaker 02

  They grow out of it.

• 28:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  That's all, that's like all I can say.

• 28:39Drew Afualo?

  Grow past that, yeah.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  Just grow past it.

• 28:41Drew Afualo?

  Evolve past that.

• 28:42Speaker 02

  Because at this point, I'm just kind of like, man, you've made great things. Like you've done, you've had a really great career up to this point. I would have thought you would have learned about that by now.

• 28:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like known at least.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  And that's what the disappointing-

• 28:53Drew Afualo?

  What it feels like to get a couple knocks.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Exactly. And I'm like, that was the most disappointing thing about it. Where it's just kind of like, I could either take it as, he is that precious about his work.

• 29:03Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  And maybe that's just him writing and dying on his work? Or that's just him being a big ass baby?

• 29:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's why I said, I'm leaning towards that one.

• 29:11Speaker 02

  I just literally cut, like, I kept saying they, but now I said him. So now everybody knows it's a he. So I just cut it in half.

• 29:17Drew Afualo?

  Well, you know what? I would say too, that does speak though, to the power of you and like Cinema Joe's like platforms. Because they fucking see it. Like it's, and it matters because a lot of people see it. And that's why they get so fucking butthurt about it. Because a lot of people are gonna see it. But this actually leads to my next question, because I was gonna ask you, how you felt about like this kind of polarization of critiquing art? Where it's like, you either, everyone has to love it. And if you go against it, you're fucked up in some way. Or everybody dog shits it. And then if you like it, or like something about it, they're like, oh, okay, dick writer, okay.

• 29:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:54Drew Afualo?

  Like, I know that the movie scene on TikTok has been tainted with this like-

• 29:58Speaker 02

  It's awful.

• 29:58Drew Afualo?

  Just complete lack of critical thinking. Or like, forming of your own personal opinion. Like, that's something I'm always thinking, I'm like, I have my opinions, but I want to go see what my favorite movie reviewers think too.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's always good to bounce off of each other.

• 30:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, I like, I have my opinions. I just want to know what they think. And maybe they, maybe they align, maybe they don't.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:15Drew Afualo?

  But I've already formed my own, because I have my own brain that critical thinks.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  It's good for discussion.

• 30:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  Right? And like, I feel, and I definitely getting into that question. I love this question. It's one, it's TikTok, right? Like, like there, as you know, there's a spectrum of TikTok. There's either supreme hate or supreme love, right? And a lot of people don't have any room for in-between and everyone's doing it for the clicks and everything. And hate unfortunately on TikTok gets more, it gets more views, right? Even, and you could, I could tell from a mile away when someone doesn't believe what they're saying or hating on it so hard. I could just tell, like, and I, and I, I, back then, I used to like call it out and be like, bro, be genuine.

• 30:52Drew Afualo?

  And they like regurgitate the same talking points.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  The same talking points that they heard from everybody else, right? Uh, that's why I always just like asking why. Like when they say, when they give a critique, like very surface stuff, like, oh, the pacing was bad. How, right? Like, I love asking, like, in what way? Like, let's talk about it, right? But like, I came up, like, you know, going to a movie theater and then afterwards, me and my friends will sit in front of the car and just talk about the movie.

• 31:15Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  And like, it, it is kind of fun that, you know, one just didn't like the movie and then the other one did. And they're like, oh, well, tell me why. And it's like, it's cool when you're with your friends. Cause no matter how like contentious it may look, like, it's all love at the end of the day. And like, it's a fun, it's a fun conversation, you know what I'm saying? But the internet is the internet and like, there is, it becomes, it's not two people like sitting outside a theater. It's now like a million and everybody has something different to say.

• 31:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  But in terms of like aligning my opinion with other people or like feeling like I have to, like, you know, I've loved, I've liked movies a lot, like The Flash. I came out of The Flash being like, oh, I liked it a lot. And obviously it was not received well at all, like at all. And I'm cool with being alone.

• 31:57Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  And that, I'm cool with that, cause again.

• 31:58Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's why I fuck with your reviews, cause you're like, yeah, you're standing on it.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  I'm standing on business, you know what I'm saying? Like, and so, and I have my personal reasons, right? And it, and what I find is like, it doesn't matter a lot of the time what your personal reasons are. As soon as they hear that you like something that they hate, wraps, game over.

• 32:15Drew Afualo?

  They're like, you don't understand art, you don't, you don't know how to analyze, you don't know anything.

• 32:20Speaker 02

  And I've been very clear that everything that I watch and all my opinions come from my own personal experience, right? Like, when I say like, I liked The Flash and I say like, hey, the father-son dynamic, like the parental aspect of it, the emotional core of the story is what I gravitate towards, cause I'm an emotional movie watcher.

• 32:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  That's what I mean by that, right? You can't tell me I'm wrong.

• 32:40Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. I think that's everyone's problem.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  It's like everybody wants to be right, everybody wants to say you're wrong.

• 32:45Drew Afualo?

  They want to tell you, your opinion's wrong. That's not how opinions work.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  But you want to know the real tea, though? It's jealousy.

• 32:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  It's one hundred percent jealousy because, because talking about movies is something that everybody can do.

• 32:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  Right? Like you can get on there, like give your opinions and everything.

• 33:01Drew Afualo?

  Yep.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  And you're gonna wonder why people are getting more opportunities that you want, doing the same thing that you're doing.

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• 33:45Speaker 02

  Like I remember somebody called me the Drake of movie TikTok one time.

• 33:50Drew Afualo?

  That's fucked up.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  Somebody called me the Drake of movie TikTok. And he was wearing this ugly ass like bonnet and shit, like it was like a Gangar bonnet. And I was like, I was like, fucking Gangar bonnet, fuck you, bro. But um, I wanted to dive into that, like what did he mean by that, right? And I, this was like in the throes of like the Drake and Kendrick, like dissing everything. And so I was like, what do you mean by the Drake of movie TikTok? Okay, Drake is super popular, like worldwide. I wouldn't say I'm worldwide popular, but like I'm pretty popular in comparison on TikTok, right?

• 34:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and yeah, in the movie sphere especially.

• 34:19Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying? And Drake is always accused of not fully being a part of black culture and therefore not being a part of the hip-hop like rap game. Like he fakes it, right? He just takes from everything else and he just kind of fakes it to make it. And so I was like, okay, so the Drake of movie TikTok would be like someone who is not like your typical film bro. Like I'm faking it, or like I'm just a popular choice. Like I don't know about real film, which is a film bro way of thinking.

• 34:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like that's what I was gonna say, that's ironic.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  It's very ironic because it's like, because it's like, I remember one dude made a comment that was like, oh, um. I bet you he only watches like the biggest twenty movies of the year like he doesn't know anything about this like nineteen thirty eight French film.

• 35:02Drew Afualo?

  What the fuck are you talking about?

• 35:04Speaker 02

  Talking about, bro? Like it's just kinda like and then and then the ones who go like you didn't see this movie cuz it's not on your letterbox. I use letterbox every day and I'm just kinda like.

• 35:14Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 35:15Speaker 02

  And and you could just clearly tell that they're comparing themselves to me and wondering why they're not me.

• 35:20Drew Afualo?

  Projection.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  This is all and it's all a projection, right?

• 35:23Drew Afualo?

  And it's always those opinions are very like I hated it. This is why and then they're like it's nothing like this film and they'll bring up a fucking black and white silent film. From wherever the fuck and you're like that movie is ass because I don't like it cuz of this and then they're like you don't get art.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, that you don't get people don't.

• 35:40Drew Afualo?

  It's literally like the the contrarian mentality.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  I think that's exactly what it is. It's like.

• 35:45Drew Afualo?

  And because you're not like I hate things that other people universally love all of a sudden they're like oh dick rider you're just doing this because. Or actually I liked it.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Or actually I liked it.

• 35:55Drew Afualo?

  Maybe I enjoyed the film.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Genuinely enjoy it like like like I have a lot of fun telling people that Cars two is a is not good like it's awful. I have I have a lot of fun telling people that.

• 36:05Drew Afualo?

  I didn't care for Cars two either to be fair.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  I think a majority of people would say that Cars two.

• 36:09Drew Afualo?

  One bangs Cars two not very.

• 36:11Speaker 02

  Cars one is okay for me. It's like okay like like like.

• 36:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Republican propaganda. I don't really love it either.

• 36:18Speaker 02

  I I and I and I've been very clear about this. I don't trust Mater at all. He's like as someone who grew up in Compton a redneck like character for me did don't fuck with I never fuck with Hank from King of the Hill. I don't fuck with Mater. I don't fuck with characters that just give me like redneck.

• 36:34Drew Afualo?

  My opinion.

• 36:34Speaker 02

  And that's my opinion like it's just my personal upbringing. I see that I'm just kinda like.

• 36:39Drew Afualo?

  That's do you know what's mine about that? I don't like I don't care for Lion King.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 36:44Drew Afualo?

  And people really fucking hate when I say that.

• 36:46Speaker 02

  This is interesting. I don't hate you but like I'm curious now.

• 36:50Drew Afualo?

  It's just not my favorite one. I it's and here's why it's very it's very simple. I can't relate to the animals.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 36:57Drew Afualo?

  Like if I'm watching and and like there when you know when him and in the second one when him or no is it the first one? When him and Nala are like frolicking.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, fucking.

• 37:05Drew Afualo?

  Is that the first one or the second one?

• 37:06Speaker 02

  First one, yeah.

• 37:07Drew Afualo?

  Okay, okay. So when they're doing that and they're like, oh, my god, how how romantic.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  You're like they're animals.

• 37:12Drew Afualo?

  They're an ant. They're animals. I can't be I'm not a big cat. I can't relate to that. I I got a big cat. Just kidding. But I'm not a big cat, I can't relate to that.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Name her Nala.

• 37:21Drew Afualo?

  Like literally, literally when they made the live action one, I, I went and saw it in theaters. The only reason I did was because Beyonce was in it and I'm being so literal and very serious about that, I'm being honest. That is the only reason I saw it and I did not enjoy it because again, I don't fuck with the animals like that.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  I didn't enjoy it either, yeah.

• 37:36Drew Afualo?

  I just don't, I can't relate to them.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  I get it.

• 37:38Drew Afualo?

  I have trouble connecting to them.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  Meanwhile, I'm being strangely turned on by Nala's do me eyes that she gives Simba in that moment.

• 37:44Drew Afualo?

  Well, it's like teenage Simba.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  It was like teenage, I mean teenage Simba.

• 37:46Drew Afualo?

  Women, women love teenage Simba.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  The mane, the way they did his mane, like the hair?

• 37:50Drew Afualo?

  And I saw why they make them look more human like because of the eyeballs.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  It's the eyes, it's the eyes.

• 37:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I get it.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Women with those eyes, like, Jesus Christ, like.

• 37:57Drew Afualo?

  I know, but that, I get it when you're like, I have a lot of fun telling people Cars 2 isn't good.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  I do, and it's nothing personal, it's just like, I will tell you why I don't like Cars 2.

• 38:06Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  And you could tell me why you do like Cars 2, and I'm not gonna fault you for that, right? I'm just gonna say, my reasons for not liking Cars 2 is my reasons, right? And, and like, people who just try to be like, oh, you're just trying to be different, or you're just trying to, I'm just like, it's not a, what do I have to gain?

• 38:22Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  From doing that, right?

• 38:24Drew Afualo?

  You also have a ton of opinions that align with the masses too.

• 38:27Speaker 02

  You know?

• 38:28Drew Afualo?

  Like, like a lot of really popular movies are like, I loved it, here's why. It's not like you're going the opposite way every single time.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 38:35Drew Afualo?

  But when you like things that are universally loved, they're like, oh, okay.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. Have you been, there's this guy that's been popping up on my TikTok a lot recently, and he does a lot of like the like skits where he talks directly to camera as like the guy in LA that you meet at a party.

• 38:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, yes, I have seen it.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  He is good, and it's very painful to watch, cause like I've had many of experiences like that. And it's like, oh, when you meet, uh, that film bro at the party, it's like, oh, you like the movie, why?

• 39:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  Oh, you don't know why, oh wow, it's like you like pizza, but you don't know the flavors, the texture, you're just like, I like pizza, err. It's like, oh my god.

• 39:09Drew Afualo?

  That is how it fucking feels.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  And that's how it feels.

• 39:12Drew Afualo?

  It's exhausting. That's why I was curious what your opinion was on, but now that makes more sense. I, I think too with the hate thing that you said, like hate gets more clicks and views.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:20Drew Afualo?

  Especially when you hate things that are popular. And so people are like, but then that's the thing too, even if you grow that following, if you just hate every single thing that comes out, you're still not gonna get opportunity that you get.

• 39:31Speaker 02

  No.

• 39:31Drew Afualo?

  There's no one gonna watch you there.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Say it again. And I'm not saying that like you need to like more things to get opportunities. Just be a little bit more like kind about it.

• 39:41Drew Afualo?

  Balanced, yeah.

• 39:42Speaker 02

  More balanced. And then when you explain your hate, like I will watch a video where somebody explains in depth why they don't like something and why it doesn't work for them.

• 39:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Because I feel like whenever we watch movies, we learn a little bit more about not just ourselves, but each other.

• 39:54Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  So if you're telling me what you don't like about a movie in depth and the reasons why, and you could say something like, oh, I can't relate to this bit because personally I grew up with this and this and this and that.

• 40:03Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  I'm like, that's interesting. I will watch that teardown of a movie because it's kind, it's well thought out. And I feel like that's a very interesting way to come at a movie.

• 40:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and it's not just like, I don't like it.

• 40:13Speaker 02

  I don't like it. It sucks.

• 40:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Like, you know?

• 40:16Drew Afualo?

  I didn't like this. I, I, I agree. I like watching very nuanced breakdowns of things. This is, these are the reasons why it didn't really work for me.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  Right.

• 40:24Drew Afualo?

  And I think too, like you said, you can still be, like have integrity in your reviews and not be like a big pushover for like studios and still get invited to things.

• 40:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:34Drew Afualo?

  Right?

• 40:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:35Drew Afualo?

  Because they still want you there because you're still clocking the views.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  I've.

• 40:38Drew Afualo?

  So that's all that matters.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Am I gonna say this? I'm gonna say this right now.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  I, okay. So I did a review for Five Nights at Freddy's. I didn't think it was a good movie, right?

• 40:50Drew Afualo?

  Cult following too.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  Cult following, right? The FNAF fans, huge, right? And I, and I like, I, you know, I see their fandom for FNAF the same way I see my fandom for One Piece. Like I'm a huge like cult follower for One Piece. Please, watch One Piece. Anyway. Uh, but I didn't give a good review for the Five Nights at Freddy's movie, the first one, but it wasn't like a teardown or nothing like that. I was just kinda like, it seems like it'll be great for the fans. I'm glad that the fans have it.

• 41:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 41:15Speaker 02

  I just don't, I just think it could have been more rated R. You know, I just give the full, the full rundown. Universal asked me to host my first Hall H panel at San Diego Comic Con for Five Nights at Freddy's 2.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  For Five Nights at Freddy's 2.

• 41:28Drew Afualo?

  They said, "We can trust this one."

• 41:30Speaker 02

  We could.

• 41:31Drew Afualo?

  We can trust him.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  And there was a, and there was a moment where I fucked up in the middle of this big panel, right? And mind you, like, Hall H sits 6,500 people.

• 41:41Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 41:42Speaker 02

  All of them FNAF fans, right? Hardcore FNAF fans. And I'm talking to the whole cast of season two and everybody's like really great and everything. And I'm not gonna sit up here and pretend that like, I'm like the biggest fan or whatever. But I am gonna say like, what you guys do for these fans, like it's ama- it's amazing. It's incredible. Like the animatronic work is like really dope, this, this and that. So, in the middle of this, I say like, they give me a question, cuz they give you questions as well as like questions of your own.

• 42:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  And they give me a question to ask, which is like, if you could walk through San Diego Comic Con in a animatronic costume as a disguise, who would it be? And they all give these really great answers. Some of them are like, the crowd is cheering for some of the answers. I'm thinking, this is like a really good question.

• 42:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  And then Josh Hutcherson looks at me and says, "Which one would you choose, Juju?" I don't know the names of nobody.

• 42:27Drew Afualo?

  Literally me.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  In this movie, I just know Freddy, I know Cupcake and Chica. That's it.

• 42:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 42:32Speaker 02

  They've already said Freddy, Cupcake and Chica.

• 42:34Drew Afualo?

  Well, I too would pick Freddy.

• 42:37Speaker 02

  I literally said, "I got main character energy, so I'mma go with Freddy." And everyone clapped and everyone did the thing and I was just like, "Oh shit."

• 42:42Drew Afualo?

  You gotta be quick on your feet.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Next question, right? Next question, but I-

• 42:46Drew Afualo?

  I've been in those, I've been in those exact situations before and I'm like, "What's my favorite part? Oh god, where do I start?"

• 42:52Speaker 02

  But, but let's talk about this though, because like, I think, I think, cuz we see interviewers and moderators, they go into these spaces like red carpets and junkets and stuff, unprepared.

• 43:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Speaker 02

  Right? We've seen like, it seems like, and I feel like this is just the internet just giving us that on the For You page or whatever. But we've seen like, almost a rise of interviewers who are ill-equipped to interview.

• 43:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 43:12Speaker 02

  And, a lot of it, you could just tell it's just no research.

• 43:15Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Like you saw what happened to, uh, Babyface at the Grammys, right?

• 43:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I did and I was at the Grammys too and I was like, Babyface, I would've never done that to you.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  Never.

• 43:24Drew Afualo?

  I also beat Babyface in Uno.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  Oh, what?

• 43:26Drew Afualo?

  At a Questlove game night party. I worked his shit in Uno.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  Flex your shit. Flex your shit, Drew.

• 43:32Drew Afualo?

  Him and Rachel Zegler. Dogged both of them, sorry. Go ahead.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Okay. Alright, that beats my Pedro stories. How good is it that we have these stories to tell? It's kind of insane.

• 43:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no, when I'm in there, I'm like, what the fuck am I doing?

• 43:45Speaker 02

  What am I doing here?

• 43:46Drew Afualo?

  I got behind enemy lines, guys. I'm approaching horsing in this industry.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  Just trying not to get caught.

• 43:51Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. I'm staying one step ahead.

• 43:53Speaker 02

  But, uh, but like-

• 43:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the rise of incompetence.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  With the rise of like ill-equipped and like common sense and things of that sort. And even if I don't know something, I'm still gonna like study the fuck out of it.

• 44:03Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  I'm gonna do all the research like, like days before.

• 44:06Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  So I know at least enough to like have the conversation. When I started working in advertising, like the first thing I learned in like my first like couple of months was you're gonna get brands that you're not interested in. It's your job to find something that interests you. So that way you can sell that to other people.

• 44:23Drew Afualo?

  It's very deep.

• 44:24Speaker 02

  And so with Five Nights at Freddy's, I was like, okay, I didn't like the movie. I know Universal saw that I didn't like the movie. But how can I interest myself in Five Nights? How can I get myself excited for Five Nights at Freddy's 2?

• 44:35Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  I literally studied like, uh, MatPat videos and like Twitch streamers who would play the game. And I like fully dove into the lore, like what fans were saying on Reddit. And so by that time I got on that panel, I was very well-prepared.

• 44:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  Except for that, like, which animatronic would I like?

• 44:51Drew Afualo?

  Except for the superficial thing like names?

• 44:52Speaker 02

  I was not prepared for that. I was, yeah, exactly. I was so deep, I forgot the surface. That was, and that was the crazy thing.

• 44:58Drew Afualo?

  That's why I said you went so far deep, I forgot fucking names.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  And, and so like what I appreciate about you is that like, like before knowing you, I didn't know how much you knew about movies or how much you knew about like celebrity, pop culture in general.

• 45:10Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 45:10Speaker 02

  But I always, whenever I would see you interview somebody, you interact with somebody, I could always tell you were prepared.

• 45:15Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  And so like, I feel like preparation in this business is like everything. And I feel like we just, we just don't have a lot, or at least we're not seeing a lot of it right now.

• 45:23Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And I think too, like to your point about like ill-equipped people, like people who aren't just not good interviewers. You know, this always happens, especially when we're on carpets where it's like this conversation of like, why the fuck are influencers interviewing people?

• 45:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:35Drew Afualo?

  Which like, I think there is validity to that argument.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:38Drew Afualo?

  It depends on who you ask, right?

• 45:40Speaker 02

  You can't just get anybody.

• 45:41Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. Like just cause it's like, it works the same way just cause you have a million followers, a million plus followers. Doesn't mean you can talk to people. Just because you can talk to people doesn't mean you can make it clippy and funny for TikTok. So it's like, it's a very, you know, like squares and rectangles situation to me. Especially because I do have a journalism degree.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Right.

• 45:58Drew Afualo?

  So I did learn how to interview literally. Um, so I do have the literal qualifications to be an interviewer.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  Communications, baby.

• 46:05Drew Afualo?

  That being said, though, I don't think you need those like fucking badges in order to do it. I really do think a huge part of it is being personable, like being, I was like, the ability to, like, having a degree, having the, the training is cool. Um, but that's not going to guarantee you don't eat shit on carpets or you don't offend people or you don't like.

• 46:26Speaker 02

  I've had my share.

• 46:28Drew Afualo?

  Right. Well, it's just, it's just, there's no guarantee either way because the ability to read a room is like far more important in these rooms than it would be for that. Like it's the ability to liken yourself to someone for 15 seconds and get something worth putting. Yeah.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  That's a skill.

• 46:44Drew Afualo?

  I was like that. And that's something that comes, I think it's like naturally to people and also like honed over time, like people skills, right?

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:50Drew Afualo?

  Not everybody has them. That's why sometimes you'll see influencers that are terrible interviewers. Sometimes you'll see actual journalists as terrible interviewers. Cause a lot of journalists write, they don't interview. That's very different, like on carpets and in front of cameras, right?

• 47:04Speaker 02

  It's, like you said, it's like being in front of people and like being able to feel the energy of the person in front of you and like matching that energy. And not everybody can match that, right?

• 47:13Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  You know, like there's this, uh, there's this one interviewer who got into some hot water and he's been doing it for like ever. Like he's so big to the point where he gets cameos and like shows as himself. Like that's how good he is. But, uh, he recently got some hot water when he had that interview with, uh, Chase Infinity.

• 47:29Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  When he, it was, mind you, this is her first feature length film, like ever. It's like, it's in LA, first record, I don't know if it's her first record, but she's just in the moment, like it's crazy. And he's a seasoned interviewer and he asks her straight up, what is it like to call Leonardo DiCaprio daddy?

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• 48:20Speaker 02

  And it's like...

• 48:21Drew Afualo?

  Ew!

• 48:23Speaker 02

  You know, and it's like...

• 48:25Drew Afualo?

  What kind of fucking question is that?

• 48:26Speaker 02

  And I'm like, "You've been doing this for a while."

• 48:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah!

• 48:29Speaker 02

  Like, for a good while.

• 48:31Drew Afualo?

  And not one part of your brain was like, "That's inappropriate."

• 48:33Speaker 02

  That's inappropriate.

• 48:36Drew Afualo?

  Not one part, huh?

• 48:37Speaker 02

  And like...

• 48:38Drew Afualo?

  You're so right, though. Look at Juliana Rancic when she said that shit about Zendaya at the Oscars.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  You know?

• 48:43Drew Afualo?

  A trained interviewer, someone who has a master's in journalism.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  And I think that goes to what you're saying, and like, it doesn't matter like, how much you study for it, what your degree is in, like, it doesn't always guarantee that you're not going to eat shit, right?

• 48:54Drew Afualo?

  Or do something awful that lives forever. Which is why I think, but I did think of this recently, when you were talking about the Five Nights at Freddy's thing. A few years ago, I did something for Only Murders.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Okay. Did you watch Only Murders?

• 49:08Drew Afualo?

  Well, I went, okay, here's the thing. I went to the premiere of season two. I watched the first two episodes. Outside of that, I didn't even watch season one. And that's not, it's not because I hate the show. I don't watch anything new ever, really.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  I get it.

• 49:23Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, I'm like what Chris Fleming calls a culture scavenger. Like, after everybody's done with it, I go and I rummage through the garbage. And then I go and I look and I'm like, "Yes, yes, I'm gonna look at it now." Like, that is really how I watch it.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  I do that a lot too, wow. With TV, anyway. I do that a lot with TV.

• 49:37Drew Afualo?

  Especially, I do it. So I'm like, I did the premiere, I went and watched it. I took my mom and sister, it was fun, because they loved the show.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:44Drew Afualo?

  Fast forward like a year later. I get invited to do something for Hulu for this show, but it's like an after show, and it's being taped by Hulu.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 49:52Drew Afualo?

  And they were like, "It's for season three." I said, "Three?" Because in my head I was like... I was like, I just went to two and like that was like that was a year ago and they were like, they said, oh, okay, we're gonna send you the first three episodes of season three. But it's like an after show where like I have to know a lot about like I have to know all the details of everything. And I was like, holy fuck, I have to watch two seasons of a show.

• 50:15Drew Afualo?

  I had like three days. So then, of course, I left it till the last day. And then I was like, I can do it. It's fine. I went to college. I can easily do this. And then I.

• 50:25Drew Afualo?

  I put it on season one, episode one, I'm watching forty five minutes in, I fall asleep. I wake up at two in the morning, I said, holy fuck, I have to get up at six. Oh, no. And so then what I did was I went on Wikipedia. And I read the summaries for every single episode. And then I watched the first three episodes of season three and I said, got it.

• 50:44Drew Afualo?

  Studied up, I'm good to go. Everything else, I'll fill with jokes. And so I went completely prepared because I was like, got it, got it, got it. I like had everything. I like wrote down names. I was like taking notes. I was like, okay. And it's supposed to be like fun. Like it's supposed to be like a fun little like.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  And that's another thing like, we're not saving the world.

• 51:06Drew Afualo?

  No, for real. This is such a made up job. That I'm like, it's okay.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  Like, you know, even I feel like even if you weren't like a fan in any capacity. And you just went on YouTube and watched like the recaps of seasons. And then like go on Wikipedia pages or even just like, oh, what are the most iconic moments that people talk about? Right? And you could just go in there and be like, yo, this was a lot of fun.

• 51:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And I was like, and you know what? I did love this part. And I was being genuine. Because I studied up. I made sure.

• 51:37Speaker 02

  And that's good. That's some good stuff right there.

• 51:39Drew Afualo?

  Okay, we're gonna hard pivot a little bit.

• 51:42Drew Afualo?

  I have some fun facts about you.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  I got fun facts?

• 51:45Drew Afualo?

  Okay, this first one says, before moving reviewing movies, Juju worked as a copywriter at an ad agency. Which you just said. How did you like that job?

• 51:55Speaker 02

  I loved that job. It was so great. And it had its hard days because, you know, it's still corporate America and as a creative. There's so, it sucks when there's so many rungs of like approvals to get through. Like you see ads all the time and you ask yourself like, how did it get through this many hands of approval? That's real. You're like, you're like, it goes through a certain amount of hands and then like the message gets jumbled along the way. It's just, it could get very disheartening, right?

• 52:23Drew Afualo?

  So when you saw that Sydney Sweeney thing, you said.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Listen.

• 52:26Drew Afualo?

  Listen.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  Listen.

• 52:28Drew Afualo?

  I know where, I know where it went, went south.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  There needs to be someone in the room to say something. There needs to be someone in the room to say something.

• 52:34Drew Afualo?

  And this applies to both of us on carpets. That's also another reason why you need more people of color.

• 52:38Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 52:38Drew Afualo?

  You need more diversity in interviewers because they will not offend people of color.

• 52:43Speaker 02

  Yes. And honestly, when they see people of color on that.

• 52:46Drew Afualo?

  They're more excited.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  They're like, yeah, like, let's go, let's talk.

• 52:50Drew Afualo?

  That's so true.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  Brother, like, I, I met, uh, uh.

• 52:53Drew Afualo?

  The video of you dapping up Ryan Coogler at Wakanda 2, was that the premiere, the second Wakanda one?

• 52:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, uh, that was the second one. Yeah. And now, and listen, I just wanted to tell him straight up, like, hey, man, I just appreciate everything that you do. And like, he didn't know me in the moment, like, it took him maybe like 20 seconds to like, figure it out, that he watched me already.

• 53:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  But he was just kinda like, oh, yeah, fuck yeah, bro. Like, shoot, what's your name? Where you from? Da, da, da, da, da. And we're just chopping it up. And I knew that's because we were brothers. Like, you know, I knew that that got me into that, that, that situation.

• 53:22Drew Afualo?

  Me and The Rock.

• 53:23Speaker 02

  You know, uh, oh my god.

• 53:24Drew Afualo?

  That was like, I said, that's like, said, me with The Rock.

• 53:26Speaker 02

  I'm just, he saw that, he saw your tats, he said, yeah.

• 53:28Drew Afualo?

  He said, what's your last name? I said, yeah. My brother in Christ, how are you? Nice to meet you.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  And that, and that's really cool. But like, go back to like, the advertising thing, like, I love that job, like, it, I went to school for that job. Like, I went, uh, to school for advertising. And it was a long, roundabout way to get there, but once I was there, like, the people that I worked with was amazing. Uh, I started working there when my daughter was born. So every year marked there was like, around the same time as my daughter's birthday. So like, I, I have a very like, fond memory of that place.

• 53:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  And then, super duper fun fact, is that, once I left, just recently this year, they asked me to come back to like, do a commercial with them.

• 54:08Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, how cute. That's so fun.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  So that was actually really cool.

• 54:13Drew Afualo?

  That's so deep. I love that. That's so fun.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was cool.

• 54:18Drew Afualo?

  The NFL has not asked me to do anything. They're mad at me.

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Really, really?

• 54:23Drew Afualo?

  They fired me. Well, they, that was the job I had before I started doing this.

• 54:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 54:27Drew Afualo?

  Then I got fired, R.I.P.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 54:29Drew Afualo?

  But I did do, and I'll say this, because fuck it, what are they gonna do?

• 54:32Speaker 02

  What are they gonna do? What are they gonna do?

• 54:34Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, I'm just, I'm me getting afraid. What are they gonna do? Red dot on my forehead already. Well, I went to Pro Bowl like, I think, three years ago, two, three years ago. What was interesting though is like, I went through Meta, uh, which I love. I loved working with Meta. They were wonderful. And, um, we were going to Pro Bowl, but they invited me and my man like individually, which I thought was nice because you couldn't bring plus one. So I was like, okay, T, we can go together. And then it was like, kind of dragging, like giving me the information. And then my manager called me and was like, yeah, so here's the thing, um, they're like nervous about me being there because I've talked about being fired from there.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 55:11Drew Afualo?

  And I was like, well, what am I gonna do?

• 55:13Speaker 02

  Right. I'm not gonna tear this whole place down.

• 55:15Drew Afualo?

  Go live and be like, these are the people that fired me. Like, what am I gonna fucking do? You're the NFL.

• 55:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, what do you, what do you, what was gonna happen?

• 55:21Drew Afualo?

  It's fine. It's literally fine.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  I mean, if anybody had the power to tear down the NFL.

• 55:25Drew Afualo?

  Listen.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  It would be drove.

• 55:26Drew Afualo?

  I'm, I'm working on it. I'm going on the inside.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  This is why they got nervous.

• 55:31Drew Afualo?

  And they literally just, they expressly like said they didn't like how I was describing leaving the NFL, even though that is exactly what happened to me.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:41Drew Afualo?

  So I'm like, okay.

• 55:42Speaker 02

  This true thing that you were.

• 55:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Which is funny because I went and, and like, we had a lot of fun. It was like, really cool. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say anything, do any, relax. And honestly, that was when my manager told me, I think it's really funny that certain brands are, are like afraid of me. Like, they're like, a healthy dose of fear, I think is good for everyone to have.

• 56:01Speaker 02

  Of course, yeah. That's power.

• 56:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, for real. So that's why I thought it was funny when I pivoted to the NBA, like when the NBA asked me to be in the commercial last year. I was like, fuck yeah, dude, I'd love to do that with you.

• 56:13Speaker 02

  Way better league. Way better. Way better sport.

• 56:17Drew Afualo?

  But they're afraid of me. So that's why they, they just don't really care for me talking about being fired, even though that's what happened to me. I think it would be more embarrassing if I said like, oh, I chose to leave. And then they were like, no, we didn't. We fired that bitch. That would have been funny.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  Honestly, then you would have been like, well, let's tell the full story then. I was just trying to be nice. I was just trying to be cool.

• 56:34Drew Afualo?

  I know. One of my first videos I ever made before I started like really leaning into making fun of men.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:39Drew Afualo?

  I made one about like, cause someone had made a funny skit of like, this is how it feels to be like in your mid twenties, like pitching social. Ideas to older people.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:48Drew Afualo?

  That was my whole job at the NFL. I'm sitting there dead ass in a, in like nine to five, like office attire. I'm going, no, like ice in the veins is like, it's funny. Like kids are gonna get it. They'll get it. Trust me. I get it.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  They're just like, what does it mean?

• 57:03Drew Afualo?

  Here's, yeah, they're like, I don't get it. And I'm like, you're not supposed to get it. And like.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  They're supposed to.

• 57:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And I literally would explain like ice in the vein, like there, I, I'm telling you right now Lamar Jackson is really into it. He's gonna, and that was like his like.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  I do that sometime.

• 57:16Drew Afualo?

  Hello. It's such an athlete thing. And I was like, really trying to explain it to them. And they were like, they just weren't having it. And then I remember another one I was pitching forever was, um, Andy Reid, like the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. I was trying to do a thing where I made him the Lorax. Like I was like, wanna photoshop him looking like Lorax and you can make the Chiefs the trees and he protects the trees.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  That's actually cool.

• 57:37Drew Afualo?

  I was like, me explaining that at 24.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:41Drew Afualo?

  To like a 50 year old woman. I'm like, you see, here's the thing. You mean that animated movie? Yeah, they're like, the Lorax. I'm like, yeah. He looks like the Lorax. That's the joke. I'm actually, I don't know if I've ever told this story on here. Forgive me if I have, I repeat myself all the time. Sorry, you tried doing this 200 episodes. Anyways, there was one where the Chiefs won a big game. This was like at the start of their fucking, the tyranny that they've been holding.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  I don't even watch football, but I've been enjoying that tyranny. I like dynasties.

• 58:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. So they, when this was like at the start of it, um, they had, they'd won a game, a really important game. And then Andy Reid was in a press conference after. And they asked him, because I think it was like the, to go to the conference championship. And they were like, what are you gonna do? Like now that you won again, like what are you gonna do? And he said, I'm gonna go home and eat some Kahlua pork. That was it. That was all he said.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:31Drew Afualo?

  And then he was like, thanks, everyone. And then he left. And he's known for saying silly weird shit like that. I had to beg my boss to let me clip that and put it into a meme of some kind. I'm gonna go home, eat some Kahlua pork.

• 58:46Speaker 02

  That's gold, that's great.

• 58:47Drew Afualo?

  She was literally like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I told her, it's funny, like, people are gonna laugh. Yeah, so I fought on the hill for that one stupid ass quote. I fought on the hill. I won, I won the battle, right? I won the battle.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:02Drew Afualo?

  And that thing went viral. That was one of the only things that went viral. And I was like,

• 59:05Speaker 02

  Please tell me your petty, please tell me your petty bone came out on that one too.

• 59:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I was like, well, it's doing really well. The post is doing very well. He retweeted it, so.

• 59:13Speaker 02

  Ooh, she was hatin'.

• 59:13Drew Afualo?

  I was like, the chief's account did retweet it, so.

• 59:15Speaker 02

  I bet you she was hatin' like a motherfucker too. I bet you.

• 59:18Drew Afualo?

  Oh yeah, cuz she ended up firing me a month later.

• 59:20Speaker 02

  That's what hap- that's how it happened. Wow.

• 59:23Drew Afualo?

  It was just a lot of shit like that.

• 59:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:24Drew Afualo?

  But I, it, it was just the most asinine way of me, it felt like a humiliation ritual of me just being like, if, if they had the jokes they have now on TikTok, I would have been terrorizing that office.

• 59:36Speaker 02

  My god.

• 59:37Drew Afualo?

  I would have been terrorizing. Did you see that guy that was like, Flo? Flo? Did you see that guy?

• 59:41Speaker 02

  No.

• 59:43Drew Afualo?

  Me, the only person in the universe watching that one, is basically a guy teaching people like agility and stuff, but it was like the silliest moves. I'm not even kidding, I would, I would be terrorizing the NFL TikTok if I was working there still.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  Honestly, you should.

• 59:55Drew Afualo?

  Good thing they got rid of me.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  I mean, it's a blessing.

• 59:57Drew Afualo?

  They kicked me overboard.

• 59:58Speaker 02

  You gave me PTSD cuz like, I have a very similar story, like, like working in advertising. And again, I love everybody who was on that team. It was a very stressful account. It was for Team USA.

• 1:00:08Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  And this was during the Olympics in Tokyo.

• 1:00:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  And so, my, I had this like really dope idea, and I still stand by this idea being dope as shit, was like, okay, we're in Japan, right? Athletes all love fucking anime.

• 1:00:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  What if we really leaned into the whole anime aspect of this whole like Japanese, this Tokyo Olympics? And so I said, what if like, you know, I don't know how much anime you watch, but.

• 1:00:32Drew Afualo?

  Not a ton.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:00:33Drew Afualo?

  My man watches a ton though.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  Okay, then he would, then, in anime, you've probably seen this, like, the openings and closings of animes are iconic.

• 1:00:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  Like, they get like full, like a full production, separate animation style, they get like actual big stars to sing the songs, like, it's a whole. Thing, right?

• 1:00:48Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  To the point where people will have rankings of their favorite openings and endings, right? Now, I was proposing that for the opening and closing ceremonies, we would have an animated, like, opening ceremony that was all anime, like, animated.

• 1:01:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  For Team USA, right? And then at the closing ceremonies, we will have a closing as well.

• 1:01:06Drew Afualo?

  That's so cool.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  We could create a whole song, we could like tap.

• 1:01:09Drew Afualo?

  And it's a bit you can carry throughout the Olympics.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Carry throughout the Olympics.

• 1:01:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  And then I was like, also, like, a big thing with like just sports in general, like the highlight reels, if you miss a sport, you can actually see the highlight reel. What if we got anime animators to animate the highlight reels of the day?

• 1:01:25Drew Afualo?

  That's cool.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  In an anime style.

• 1:01:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's so sick.

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  And so they were just kind of like, yeah, but does anime, is it really popular like that? Do people really care about it?

• 1:01:34Drew Afualo?

  They're like, gee, alert.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  Please, god damn it, we will go down in history.

• 1:01:40Drew Afualo?

  It's true, because Bleacher Report does it all the time now.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  Bleacher Report.

• 1:01:43Drew Afualo?

  They do it all the time.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  Thank you for saying this.

• 1:01:46Drew Afualo?

  They ripped your bit.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  They, a lot of people ripped my fucking bit. And, and, uh, what we ended up doing, it was like the super watered down version of it, we took like highlights from the day and like they just basically put like LED lights surrounding the.

• 1:01:58Drew Afualo?

  That's even worse, when they don't do it the right way, you're all, don't, just don't do it at all.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  It was like a nineties skateboard, like, video, that's what it felt like.

• 1:02:05Drew Afualo?

  Not the same, man.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  And so I was just kind of like, listen, I'll make it happen because it's my job, but like, y'all know where I want this to go.

• 1:02:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  Mind you, we also got an animator to do a Kevin Durant dunk in animation style, and that shit looked fucking like straight out of Dragon Ball Z six. And they were like, yeah, we're not really feeling this, so after it was on.

• 1:02:22Drew Afualo?

  The vision.

• 1:02:23Speaker 02

  So during the whole, like, the whole ceremony of like the Olympics,

• 1:02:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:28Speaker 02

  athletes were coming out doing like iconic poses from anime characters and stuff like that. And everybody's like, like, paying homage to anime.

• 1:02:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  And then like a bunch of brands was also coming out doing some anime stuff, and I'm like, we could have kicked this off.

• 1:02:40Drew Afualo?

  Nobody listens to me.

• 1:02:41Speaker 02

  And then the petty in this.

• 1:02:41Drew Afualo?

  And that's where you need to take your genius elsewhere, that's how I feel too.

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  That was like when I started to realize, like, y'all not listening, like, y'all not, y'all don't want to, y'all don't want to hear me, y'all just want to dance.

• 1:02:51Drew Afualo?

  Wait, that actually reminds me when I was working at the NFL. This was right when the second. What's the last one where Iron Man dies? I forget the name of it.

• 1:03:01Speaker 02

  Avengers Endgame.

• 1:03:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Endgame. This was right when Endgame came out. And there was like a, this wave of like, there was like the first female referee, the first like female like coordinator, like assistant coordinator, first female. Like, there was a lot of women in there.

• 1:03:16Speaker 02

  I see where this is going.

• 1:03:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I literally pitched, I was like, let's do the, the Marvel scene with all the women, but we'll put the faces of these women.

• 1:03:25Speaker 02

  That would've been so hard.

• 1:03:25Drew Afualo?

  On them because I was supposed to target women, like that was my fucking job. And they were telling me, mm, because it's like superheroes, mm, I don't know if everyone wa- I said, this was the biggest movie in the world.

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  Of all time.

• 1:03:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and then you know, and then I saw fucking Bleacher Report to it, and I was like, are you kidding me? So they ripped off my bit too. That's my point.

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  Fucking Bleacher Report.

• 1:03:46Drew Afualo?

  They're watching us.

• 1:03:47Speaker 02

  Fucking Bleacher Report.

• 1:03:48Drew Afualo?

  There's cameras everywhere watching us. I really did think, I was like, I have to go over there. Because they, they're taking funny ideas and nobody wants to take my funny ideas.

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  Honestly, kill over at Bleacher Report. Just stand clear of Jack Ma.

• 1:03:59Drew Afualo?

  And I even said this too, in an interview recently, that, um, the NFL, like, I told them, because TikTok was growing at the time I was working there. And I said, you should start a TikTok, like, I think it's really important. And they straight up told me, that's stupid, because that app's not going to be around for much longer.

• 1:04:17Drew Afualo?

  Right, right. And now, every time I see a check, a checkmark next to the NFL TikTok, I swipe. Sometimes I watch it.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  Don't even block them, you just want the satisfaction of both.

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like the equivalent of like a flip phone and like close it.

• 1:04:32Drew Afualo?

  I want them to feel my swipe.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  Feel that swipe.

• 1:04:34Drew Afualo?

  I want them to feel me skip them. Okay, we'll go through more of these fun facts.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  Oh yes, please.

• 1:04:39Drew Afualo?

  You also played high school varsity basketball?

• 1:04:41Speaker 02

  I did.

• 1:04:42Drew Afualo?

  What were you, point guard?

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  No, I wish. I didn't have the handles for a point guard.

• 1:04:45Drew Afualo?

  What were you?

• 1:04:46Speaker 02

  I was a, a shooting guard, small forward combo.

• 1:04:48Drew Afualo?

  Okay, T fast. Love that.

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  Loved it.

• 1:04:52Drew Afualo?

  It says, your first feature film role is the voice of a gym teacher in the movie Ruby Gilman Teenage Kraken.

• 1:04:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:58Drew Afualo?

  So cute. I remember you posting about that. How was it doing voiceover work?

• 1:05:02Speaker 02

  Honestly, it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of, it was one line, but it was like, it was still the biggest blast that I've ever had.

• 1:05:09Drew Afualo?

  Still though?

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Because like you walk in and, you know, they have like the screen up there with like your character, they give you like a little screen. They gave you a whole script, which was nice of them, because they literally just had the one line.

• 1:05:18Drew Afualo?

  For my keepsakes.

• 1:05:20Speaker 02

  For my little keepsakes, which I still have.

• 1:05:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:22Speaker 02

  And, uh, you know, I just had to go in there and say one line, maybe like forty-five times in different ways.

• 1:05:27Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  And I was like, dang, this is like hard, because I gotta work on different inflections on just the same thing.

• 1:05:30Drew Afualo?

  And intonation and all that, yeah.

• 1:05:32Speaker 02

  And I didn't know which one they were gonna pick, right? So I was kinda like waiting to see the movie, like, oh, I wonder which one that they used. And I liked the one that they used, it was pretty cool.

• 1:05:39Drew Afualo?

  Okay, T, it's okay, IMDb credit, regardless.

• 1:05:42Speaker 02

  Hey, and I wasn't setting out for that, I was like, that's pretty cool that I actually got one. But the cutest thing of the whole thing, though, is that, uh, whenever my daughter would see a billboard.

• 1:05:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:51Speaker 02

  Like, cause you know, this was like a couple of years ago, she's, so she's like around like five, she would always go, that's the daddy movie.

• 1:05:56Drew Afualo?

  Oh, cute.

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  And so she loved the movie, and then, uh, one day, I woke up in the, I woke up, and sometimes on the weekend, she has a habit of like waking up a couple of hours before me.

• 1:06:05Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  And she'll be in the living room, and she'll be watching TV or whatever, and all I heard was my voice saying the line over and over and over again on a loop, followed by laughter. So it would just be like, he's a legend.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  He's a legend.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  So I thought that was like a really surreal moment, that my daughter woke up to watch the movie and watch my one line.

• 1:06:27Drew Afualo?

  I love that. Do you think you'll wanna do more voiceover work?

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  If somebody asked me, I would.

• 1:06:31Drew Afualo?

  I think you would be great with voiceover work, I think that's awesome.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:06:34Drew Afualo?

  Okay, this next one says, you simultaneously worked at Disneyland, Amazon, and went to college, all at the same time?

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  How did you fucking know this? I, I don't think I've ever talked about this like publicly. Did I, did we talk about this like?

• 1:06:47Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 1:06:47Speaker 02

  No?

• 1:06:47Drew Afualo?

  No, I have Nardwar on my team.

• 1:06:49Speaker 02

  You got Nardwar?

• 1:06:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:50Speaker 02

  I was about to say, like, yes, I did, yeah, I worked.

• 1:06:54Drew Afualo?

  Okay, T.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  I worked at, uh, Disneyland full-time, and then, uh, I really needed money, uh, cause, uh, the relationship that I was in at the time, like, I was the only one who was able to get work. And like, I really wanted to like move out of my parents' house, cause I was about to have my daughter.

• 1:07:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:08Speaker 02

  And so I was like under the gun, like, I was really under the gun, and so, um...

• 1:07:12Drew Afualo?

  It's crazy, two jobs and going to school.

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  And going to school.

• 1:07:14Drew Afualo?

  Look at you, super dad.

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, I try.

• 1:07:17Drew Afualo?

  Love that.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  You know, it's, it's my, it's, it's the best title that I can wear.

• 1:07:20Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I love that.

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  And like, it all, it all led to like something good, so, yeah, it was stressful though.

• 1:07:24Drew Afualo?

  What'd you do at Disneyland?

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  I worked, I worked in the stores.

• 1:07:26Drew Afualo?

  Cute.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  So like, people say like retail is bad, which it is, retail is like a horrible ser- uh, service job, nowhere near like, uh, like the food industry.

• 1:07:34Drew Afualo?

  Food service, yeah.

• 1:07:35Speaker 02

  But Disney service?

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  Whole nother animal.

• 1:07:39Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say dude.

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  Whole other animal.

• 1:07:41Drew Afualo?

  That feels like a whole category and lane of its own.

• 1:07:44Speaker 02

  I.

• 1:07:44Drew Afualo?

  Of terrible.

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  During the strike when I couldn't talk about movies, I made quite a few videos just recounting Disneyland stories. And there's a lot that I could still tell. Like, I got a lot in the bank.

• 1:07:53Drew Afualo?

  Cause people at Disneyland, whoo wee.

• 1:07:55Speaker 02

  Pete, listen, from the, from the guests to the people who work there. Everybody's a character. There's this one guy, I call him my nemesis. His name is fucking Don. Fuck Don to the max. Like, I will get on every soapbox and say, fuck Don at Disneyland. And I was so happy to find out that years later, I also like talked shit to him when I arrived as a special guest. I pulled up with my like, like, hey, Don, yeah, you know, I'm just here, like, on Disney's dime, you know, they put you up in the hotel. What up, Don? You thought I wasn't gonna be shit, Don? Well, guess what? Give me those toys over there. Like, you know what I'm saying? So, uh, but, uh, I found out later, as I was making this video, from my coworkers who discovered the video that he got fired.

• 1:08:33Drew Afualo?

  Shit.

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  And not just fired, he got escorted by security.

• 1:08:36Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  Off of the campus. Now, it's one thing if you're a guest and you get escorted.

• 1:08:39Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:08:40Speaker 02

  If you're a cast member in costume, getting escorted by security off, that's not a good look.

• 1:08:45Drew Afualo?

  Oh, god.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  And I was, I was, if there was a grave.

• 1:08:47Drew Afualo?

  And then you, you heard then you went.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  If there was a grave, I'd be dancing on it. If there was a grave, I'd be dancing on it.

• 1:08:53Drew Afualo?

  For me, when things like that happen, when karma, like, really works out for me, and I'm like, the universe doesn't play about me, I knew it.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:59Drew Afualo?

  Whenever that happens, I'm like, god, play my walk-up song.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  That's what that.

• 1:09:04Drew Afualo?

  Go and blast my walk-up song.

• 1:09:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Da-da-da, da-da-da-da, but.

• 1:09:08Drew Afualo?

  Every tongue that rises against me shall fall.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  Off with the tongs. Yeah, but yeah, fuck Don, but everybody else that I work with, though, like, super great. Like, they're, like, honestly, the Disney family is like unlike any other. Like, I'm still close with a lot of those people.

• 1:09:21Drew Afualo?

  And I love that you get, it is really full circle that you work with Disney a lot and get to go back and stuff. That's so fucking cool.

• 1:09:27Speaker 02

  I hosted a live stream for their one hundredth anniversary on my birthday, and while I was in advertising, I did pitch, like, the one hundred years of wonder, like, line. So it all just kinda.

• 1:09:38Drew Afualo?

  Look at you.

• 1:09:39Speaker 02

  So that was a very emotional moment for me.

• 1:09:41Drew Afualo?

  That's like, the universe. The universe does not play about me.

• 1:09:44Speaker 02

  Play my walk-up music.

• 1:09:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. Dude, Amanda, you're so stupid. One of the facts on here says, we once ran into you at California Adventure at the Lamp Light Lounge.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:54Drew Afualo?

  You're so stupid.

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  That's a fact.

• 1:09:58Drew Afualo?

  That is in fact a fun fact.

• 1:10:00Speaker 02

  That is a fucking fact.

• 1:10:00Drew Afualo?

  We did run into each other.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  It was a great run in. It was a great run in, I loved it.

• 1:10:04Drew Afualo?

  You had your whole family, I had my whole family.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  I thought that was like, like, it was the Avengers crossover that like, nobody knew happened. It's like the Rocky Apollo Creed fight where the movie ends and you don't know who won the fight. It was one of those.

• 1:10:17Drew Afualo?

  That's very true.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  I looked very fondly, your mom was like, "Oh, I don't know if you remember, I remember you mom."

• 1:10:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:22Speaker 02

  Like, I remember.

• 1:10:22Drew Afualo?

  And also, obviously, as you know, me and my sister are both creators. You've been my brother's favorite creator for years.

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:10:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I've been a creator for a long time, yeah, no.

• 1:10:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:31Drew Afualo?

  No, you're his favorite one. He's always like...

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:10:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:35Speaker 02

  I'm your brother's favorite creator?

• 1:10:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, my brother loves your, he loves your Marvel stuff and loves your movie reviews.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  Oh my, that, that lit.

• 1:10:40Drew Afualo?

  And that you love anime, cuz he loves anime too.

• 1:10:42Speaker 02

  Does he like One Piece?

• 1:10:44Drew Afualo?

  He does love One Piece, can I ask you a question though?

• 1:10:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:46Drew Afualo?

  Would you classify Avatar The Last Airbender as an anime or no?

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  I would say anime inspired.

• 1:10:51Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  I would say anime inspired.

• 1:10:53Drew Afualo?

  Cuz I, I think he told me the difference is, that's gonna piss me off because I was literally telling him, it is. And he's like, "No, it's not." Like, my brother's still like, "No, it's not, it has to be made in Japan." And I'm like, "Okay, well..."

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:03Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:11:04Speaker 02

  That's, that's where we get into like a slippery slope though, cuz it's like, it, does it just have to be in Japan? Like, what if I, what if I made something animated in Japan and does that make it anime?

• 1:11:14Drew Afualo?

  Hello?

• 1:11:14Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:11:15Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 1:11:15Speaker 02

  So like, that's, that's a slippery slope to go on, but I will say like, it is, it is made over here and it is like...

• 1:11:20Drew Afualo?

  Anime inspired, it's fair.

• 1:11:21Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like, cuz then when we talk about this, is Boondocks anime?

• 1:11:24Drew Afualo?

  Tea, okay.

• 1:11:25Speaker 02

  We're gonna have to put that up into the conversation as well. And that's an anime inspired.

• 1:11:29Drew Afualo?

  They have very anime like reactions and stuff too in Boondocks.

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Everything about it.

• 1:11:33Drew Afualo?

  That's very true.

• 1:11:33Speaker 02

  Everything about it, like from the fighting to like the themes, to everything, it's very anime.

• 1:11:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, tea.

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think Afro Samurai...

• 1:11:39Drew Afualo?

  I feel better, I'm gonna rub that in my brother's face.

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think Afro Samurai, and correct me if I'm wrong anime fans, like, I'm not like, that deep into it, but I think Afro Samurai the anime was inspired from a Boondocks like moment.

• 1:11:48Drew Afualo?

  Tea.

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  So...

• 1:11:50Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I do think Avatar The Last Airbender, I really do think that's one of the greatest shows ever made.

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  I think, it's one of my favorite shows.

• 1:11:57Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  Regardless of animation or whatever, like...

• 1:12:00Drew Afualo?

  Everything about it.

• 1:12:00Speaker 02

  My gosh.

• 1:12:01Drew Afualo?

  It's perfection, I have no notes from start to end.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  I remember watching it when I was a kid.

• 1:12:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I rewatched it recently. Recently.

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:07Drew Afualo?

  Cause I watched the entire thing with my brother and then my man had never seen it. So we watched the entire thing, I think earlier this year. Oh my God, I would move to tears on so many episodes. I was so sad when we finished.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Bro, it is a sad fucking show.

• 1:12:20Drew Afualo?

  It is, it's so good.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  And like, it's so good. Like, I still say like, Zuko has one of the best arcs.

• 1:12:25Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  In fiction.

• 1:12:26Drew Afualo?

  And can I tell you something? The fact that Katara and Aang got together in the end makes my ass itch.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're.

• 1:12:33Drew Afualo?

  That's the one. That is, yeah, that is one of the one notes I do have actually is that was the wrong choice.

• 1:12:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:12:39Drew Afualo?

  That was in, that, that should have been.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  We're on opposite sides here.

• 1:12:41Drew Afualo?

  Are you really?

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  Now, I understand her and Zuko. I do understand it, but like, the story that we were, I feel like in another universe, yes, that makes perfect sense.

• 1:12:49Drew Afualo?

  That's tea.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Does. But I feel like for the story that we are given, like,

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  I think Aang, he doesn't deserve Katara or nothing like that. I just feel like they, they just had a better.

• 1:13:00Drew Afualo?

  They need each other.

• 1:13:01Speaker 02

  I feel like they've had a better growth and it's someone who's like dating someone who's like older. I'm like, that's fine.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  I'm a little biased. I'm a little biased. This is, well, I, I thought this way before me and my girlfriend got together. But also like, I've always saw my, like, Aang is like me, right? I'm just a kid who just wants like the hot older girl. So I'm gonna ride for Aang like, like.

• 1:13:22Drew Afualo?

  But Zuko does have one of the best character arcs.

• 1:13:24Speaker 02

  He does. One hundred percent.

• 1:13:26Drew Afualo?

  The development of it is, is beautiful.

• 1:13:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 1:13:28Drew Afualo?

  Perfect. Love it.

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  Love me some Zuko.

• 1:13:30Drew Afualo?

  Okay. And then last fun one is that you used to work at, you used to be a sales associate at Bath and Body Works.

• 1:13:37Speaker 02

  How do you know this? How? What?

• 1:13:40Drew Afualo?

  I feel like you would, you would slang a candle like nobody's business. I feel like you would kill sales out of Bath and Body Works. I really do feel that way.

• 1:13:48Speaker 02

  This was such.

• 1:13:48Drew Afualo?

  I feel like you would kill in that job.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  I did kill in that job. You're correct. I slang some of that. I slang some, what was it called? Midnight Wood? That sounds very dirty. Uh, but Midnight Wood Lotion, I was like, yo, this is like, yo, man.

• 1:14:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:02Speaker 02

  Are we smelling good with this? But it was actually a very shitty experience, like, and it was a very short-lived experience.

• 1:14:08Drew Afualo?

  I bet.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  Very shocked, because I'd never talk about it.

• 1:14:10Drew Afualo?

  You know what? You conquered it too quickly, probably. They hate, they hate when you rise too quickly.

• 1:14:15Speaker 02

  I think so. Well, maybe. It was, I literally worked there for maybe like, a month. And it was like, one of those like, on-call jobs. So they were like, "Don't make any plans, because we could call you at any time."

• 1:14:24Drew Afualo?

  Right, right, right.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  And I only maybe worked like, once or twice a week. And I was, I mainly got the job because like, one, it was my first ever job. And then two, uh, Black Friday was coming up, so I'm thinking I'm about to get, like, paid.

• 1:14:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:36Speaker 02

  I'm at the Body Works during Black Friday, like, time and a half, like, we about to be rolling in it. First job, hell yeah. They didn't, they called me in for that Black Friday, I worked two hours, and they told me to go home. Which I think is illegal.

• 1:14:49Speaker 02

  Which I think is illegal.

• 1:14:50Drew Afualo?

  Looking back at now, I think that's illegal.

• 1:14:52Speaker 02

  I think so. And I didn't know any better. I was just kinda like, "Okay, sure, I'll go home." And, uh, again, I'm-

• 1:14:58Drew Afualo?

  I bet that job sucks, though. I bet.

• 1:15:00Speaker 02

  I was on-call for four years.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  I ca- I was still logged in to the, like, system, and I kept looking at my schedule, "No job, no job, no job, no job."

• 1:15:09Drew Afualo?

  What the fuck?

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  And I've been waiting to get called in for four years.

• 1:15:12Drew Afualo?

  And I'm still waiting now.

• 1:15:13Speaker 02

  And I'm still, like, I'm still waiting to this day.

• 1:15:16Drew Afualo?

  Watch them call you in now.

• 1:15:17Speaker 02

  Bath and Body Works, because technically, I'm still an employee, probably, maybe. But I did go in one day, and like, uh, I was logged out, finally, but it was like, four years, I'm already at Disneyland at this point. I'm just like, I forgot about this shit, and so, yeah.

• 1:15:30Drew Afualo?

  Well, I just feel like you could sell anything, honestly.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  Well, thank you. It's all about, like-

• 1:15:33Drew Afualo?

  Charisma.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  It's all about that charisma, you know? Like, I, I go over the top in my service shop. I just sing songs and shit, and do trivia, and do bullshit like that.

• 1:15:42Drew Afualo?

  And they eat that up in Bath and Body Works.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  They eat, they, not the employees, but the-

• 1:15:47Drew Afualo?

  No, no, no, but the customers.

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  But the customers love it. You want me to sing you a song about lotion? Sure.

• 1:15:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh yeah, absolutely. A bunch of older moms, parosing. That's your bread and butter right there.

• 1:15:55Speaker 02

  If I wasn't in a relationship, I would've cleaned up nicely with the mom demographic.

• 1:16:01Drew Afualo?

  I would've been real popular in that Bath and Body Works.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  Real popular with the moms.

• 1:16:05Drew Afualo?

  Well-

• 1:16:07Drew Afualo?

  That brings us to the end of our amazing episode.

• 1:16:10Speaker 02

  I was enjoying this.

• 1:16:10Drew Afualo?

  It was, it was so fun. Time flies.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  It really does. I know, like. I know you've done junkets where they say like, oh, you have five minutes and then like you ask like you get through half of the question and like it's up. You're like, oh shit.

• 1:16:23Drew Afualo?

  Oh god, sorry, I'm a talker.

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:25Drew Afualo?

  That's what I always say. I'm like, sorry y'all, I'm a yapper. My bad.

• 1:16:28Speaker 02

  Yapper over here too. But can I say this before we get out of here?

• 1:16:31Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  I have held on to this for a long, for years now. You actually invited me to come on your podcast, like when you first started.

• 1:16:40Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:16:41Speaker 02

  I think I was gonna be like the third or fourth guest or something like that.

• 1:16:44Drew Afualo?

  Boots on the ground, yeah.

• 1:16:45Speaker 02

  And I can't remember what happened. I think like, I thought it was like the day after.

• 1:16:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:16:51Drew Afualo?

  Scheduling mishap, I think.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  Scheduling mishap. And I think something was like going on with my daughter at that time. And so my mind was just completely like somewhere else.

• 1:16:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:57Speaker 02

  And I think I got a text from you that was like, hey, we're here. And I looked at it hours late. Like, I think it was like three hours late. And I was like.

• 1:17:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:06Speaker 02

  What? And for the love of Christ, I thought you hated me for the longest time. I thought like, like, I, I think it took me like a year.

• 1:17:13Drew Afualo?

  You did text me back though.

• 1:17:15Speaker 02

  I did text you back. You said it was cool.

• 1:17:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:17Speaker 02

  But I, like, I sit in things, right? And I was like, and I hadn't seen you in like, for like a year after that.

• 1:17:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:22Speaker 02

  And so I was just like.

• 1:17:23Drew Afualo?

  We were passing ships for a while. Like, it was like, we were going to things, but I would get there after you left or whatever.

• 1:17:28Speaker 02

  Literally.

• 1:17:29Drew Afualo?

  And then sometimes we would run into each other.

• 1:17:30Speaker 02

  But that was like eating me up for like a while.

• 1:17:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh, man.

• 1:17:33Speaker 02

  And so.

• 1:17:33Drew Afualo?

  I'm so sorry to hear that.

• 1:17:34Speaker 02

  No, but then.

• 1:17:35Drew Afualo?

  It's been a long time.

• 1:17:37Speaker 02

  It was a long time. But when we saw each other again eventually, like, everything was still like all good and everything.

• 1:17:41Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely.

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  But at the same time, like, again, I love your podcast. Like, I love your show and I love everything that you've done. And I kept thinking to myself like, I let her down. Like, I let her down when she needed me to host.

• 1:17:53Drew Afualo?

  Well, you made it up to me by coming back on a spooky episode.

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  Once I got the call, I was like, yes. Like, like, clear everything. Like, I'm coming. I got to, so.

• 1:18:01Drew Afualo?

  I know. And I've had horse blinders on for three years, so fuck if I know what's going on.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Tunnel vision, dude.

• 1:18:05Drew Afualo?

  I never know what's happening ever.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  Guys, what you need to understand about us. Is that we are so under the water.

• 1:18:12Drew Afualo?

  That is the only way to survive.

• 1:18:13Speaker 02

  Literally like and that's literally how we get through.

• 1:18:16Drew Afualo?

  It's true.

• 1:18:16Speaker 02

  And so how many missed texts do you have?

• 1:18:19Drew Afualo?

  I have like over a hundred right now.

• 1:18:21Speaker 02

  You want me to tell you?

• 1:18:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, go ahead. I have like a hundred and forty last I looked, but.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  That's very cute.

• 1:18:27Drew Afualo?

  It's too far back. I can't keep going.

• 1:18:29Speaker 02

  Oh, wait, my girlfriend actually like just like like actually read them. So so this is this is nice. I have a hundred and eighty three.

• 1:18:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, not too bad.

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  Twelve hundred. It was twelve hundred.

• 1:18:40Drew Afualo?

  That's my emails. That's a whole nother thing.

• 1:18:42Speaker 02

  Oh, emails is.

• 1:18:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I have like over eight thousand unread, you know, I'm working through them.

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  Listen, the amount of people that I imagine beating down your door and just getting ignored by you is like, honestly, keep them wanting it. Keep them wanting it. Like, oh, she's so hard to get.

• 1:18:55Drew Afualo?

  I'm just trying to stay alive, you know, I have to stay, I have to keep my head above water. But thank you so much for coming and hanging out with us.

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  Thank you for inviting me.

• 1:19:02Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love you, man.

• 1:19:02Speaker 02

  I love you too.

• 1:19:03Drew Afualo?

  I think we're we're riding it together.

• 1:19:05Speaker 02

  Well, I mean.

• 1:19:05Drew Afualo?

  We're on the path together.

• 1:19:06Speaker 02

  On this path, same draft class.

• 1:19:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, for real. And we're still alive, period.

• 1:19:11Speaker 02

  We're still, we're still kicking, y'all.

• 1:19:13Drew Afualo?

  Thank God.

• 1:19:14Speaker 02

  Our haters are really sitting there in the comment section, just kind of like, oh, fuck both of these people.

• 1:19:18Drew Afualo?

  I know, for real. Yeah, you and I both. Yeah, we both get hate like that randomly.

• 1:19:22Speaker 02

  We could, that's a whole nother.

• 1:19:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, when people get bored, they really pick on the two of us or try to anyway.

• 1:19:27Speaker 02

  It's fine.

• 1:19:27Drew Afualo?

  We can't hear it. We're too busy doing shit like this.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  Don't hurt our pockets. Don't hurt our.

• 1:19:30Drew Afualo?

  For real, don't worry, don't worry about me. You know what I mean?

• 1:19:33Speaker 02

  I'm just sitting here with Leonardo DiCaprio, talk about his new movie.

• 1:19:36Drew Afualo?

  For real, shit.

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  It's shit.

• 1:19:38Drew Afualo?

  Tell them.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  But I fell off.

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  That's where falling off is.

• 1:19:42Drew Afualo?

  Sure, sure, sure. Well, thank you so much for coming. I think you're amazing and I'm so happy that you're getting even more involved in the movie scene. I really do think they need more people like you. And I'm really glad that you're there.

• 1:19:53Speaker 02

  Well, the world needs more Drew.

• 1:19:54Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:19:55Speaker 02

  For real.

• 1:19:55Drew Afualo?

  And I'm gonna make sure it keeps happening against everyone's will.

• 1:20:00Drew Afualo?

  Force it down their throats. Exactly. Thank you so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section show. Thank you to my amazing guest Straw Hat Goofy, AKA Juju. Where can everybody find you?

• 1:20:10Speaker 02

  Do I look at this camera right here?

• 1:20:11Drew Afualo?

  Yes, that one's yours.

• 1:20:12Speaker 02

  What's up everybody? I'm your movie guy. Hopefully Straw Hat Goofy. You can find me at Straw Hat Goofy everywhere. That's straw underscore hat underscore goofy. And I also host a podcast called Get Reck with Straw Hat Goofy on iHeart Radio.

• 1:20:24Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  We have Shola Mari Duenia, AKA Blue Beetle, coming through this week. So make sure you guys check it out.

• 1:20:28Drew Afualo?

  How exciting. Make sure y'all go check out Juju on everything. I already know most of you are, but for the two, three, four, five people that maybe haven't, make sure you follow Straw Hat on literally everything. He's amazing and so talented and we're lucky to have him. Thank you again for coming. And thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you to my amazing guest Straw Hat Goofy, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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