JOBLESS MENTALITY Ft. Peyton Dix & Hunter Harris | Episode 246

Peyton Dix and Hunter Harris join Drew on the show this week!! They talk about bonding in college over whether their teacher was hot, unsolicited nudes, Channing Tatum’s social media presence, getting in trouble while nannying, their type in men, and so much more. Follow Peyton on IG: https://www.instagram.com/peytondix/ Follow Hunter on IG: https://www.instagram.com/hunterh/ Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 2:04Speaker 02

  Watching Peyton flirt is a real, it's a, it's, it's like watching a fish in water. It's like you're, you're watching someone in-

• 2:13Drew Afualo?

  What she was meant to do.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  Exactly. You're watching someone in their element.

• 2:15Drew Afualo?

  What she was meant to do. It's like in the movie Soul when they're in the zone.

• 2:19Speaker 02

  No, exactly.

• 2:20Drew Afualo?

  Like they're in the zone. That's her flirting.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  And I'm the, in Soul specifically, I'm like the one thing with like the abacus who's like counting how many souls can come and go.

• 2:33Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show, starring me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest. Today, we have a hilarious duo, comedic legends, the ones, the only, Hunter and Peyton. Woo!

• 2:49Speaker 02

  No photography. Thank you.

• 2:51Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, calm down, calm down.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Too much, it's too much.

• 2:53Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, ladies, welcome to the show.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 2:57Drew Afualo?

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• 3:41Drew Afualo?

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• 3:56Speaker 02

  Can I say something really quickly?

• 3:58Drew Afualo?

  Please do.

• 3:58Speaker 02

  Your laugh. I need it as an alarm clock. I need it as a ringback tone. It is, it's so-

• 4:04Drew Afualo?

  I can do that for you.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  -good and guttural. Thank you. Yeah.

• 4:07Drew Afualo?

  And I invoice your team. I'll invoice your team.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  All right. Just the W9? Yeah, great, great. It's so, ah!

• 4:15Speaker 02

  So good. I love it. I just want to say thank you, and I'm grateful.

• 4:18Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. I appreciate that. I recognize, I receive.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:21Drew Afualo?

  It's funny, you talk about the laugh sometimes when I do like film stuff, or like people write things for me, they're like, and why don't you give us a laugh? But like the more, when I like, when I force it out of my body, it's just my heart's not in it.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Are you like, you have to earn it? Like, the laugh will come if you've really deserved it.

• 4:38Drew Afualo?

  I'm also, yes, but I also feel like I'm a cheap date. Like, I do, I will give you a well-earned laugh. Like, and even sometimes you can't even tell sometimes if it's a fake one. But for the most part, that laugh is real, for the most part.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  It feels authentic.

• 4:50Drew Afualo?

  I have a customer service laugh, which is different. That's like what I call like my white people laugh.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  Can we hear that one?

• 4:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that one sounds more like this.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  You've got a gun. That was a good, that was a laugh of a woman with a gun.

• 5:03Drew Afualo?

  But white people can't tell. When you sound like white people, they're like, I killed it. Nice, nice.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Another one. Her panties done. Yeah. Gone, gone.

• 5:12Drew Afualo?

  Just another day being me. I have like a, what I'm now dubbing as like my hosting laugh, which is like, if I'm doing interviews on carpets or something, and someone's giving me the worst time ever, or they're making it difficult for me, and I need to like kind of wrap it, I'll be like, all right, you guys take it easy. Have a good night, all right? Have so much fun.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  That was good.

• 5:34Drew Afualo?

  It's just really loud.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  I hear it, though. I hear the like, trying to leave.

• 5:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  I hear the looking for an exit.

• 5:39Drew Afualo?

  They kind of like feel like swept up in it, and they're like, okay, all right, yeah, sounds good.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  No, I like felt HR come to the room. I'm about to be let go. Like, what's happening? Complimentary, obviously.

• 5:49Drew Afualo?

  I appreciate that, though, because I do tell people a lot that my laugh is like, it's genetic. So like, if you know any other Polynesian people, they all laugh just like me. Like, they cackle. It's a very high-pitched thing.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:01Drew Afualo?

  So it's, it's not exclusive to me. But it is, it is, it is a joy, I think, to experience, if I do say so myself.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  No, I agree.

• 6:10Drew Afualo?

  But I want to pivot back to y'all. I would love to know how the two of you, first of all, got into like the content creation game before we get to the podcast, obviously. But how you guys got into the game at all? How did you guys find yourselves in this industry like me? I got fired, but I'd love to know how you guys found your way here.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Bad bitches get fired, first of all. Like I said, HR comes into a room, like, you want to make it on TikTok, you gotta get fired. HR says, come collect your baddie chain, you're out of here.

• 6:35Drew Afualo?

  For real, they're like, literally.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  It's like they're releasing you into a new life.

• 6:38Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. We're still free.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:41Drew Afualo?

  But how'd you guys get into it? I'd love to know.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Um, we both quit our jobs.

• 6:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 6:45Speaker 02

  At some point. But I was gonna say, I feel like when you-

• 6:48Drew Afualo?

  Because you two are like college besties, right? You guys have known each other for a long time.

• 6:50Speaker 02

  And we both like moved to New York, worked in media, but I think that there's something about working in media that kind of was like the, building the landscape of what being online looks like now. I think when you, you know, are like writers, but like ultimately like multi-hyphenates in the way that like, we're nosy and we like attention. So we like, we, we don't, we don't mind being on camera.

• 7:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're telling me.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  I mean, listen, I had my father say so a long time, you gotta earn this stuff. But like, I do feel like it was, and you know, correct me if I'm wrong, kind of like a natural starting off point for like the kinds of stories you want to be telling, work we want to be making, you know, movies, film, TV.

• 7:26Drew Afualo?

  What'd you guys major in in college?

• 7:29Speaker 02

  Journalism.

• 7:30Drew Afualo?

  Nice, me too.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  And then screenwriting.

• 7:31Drew Afualo?

  Oh, screenwriting?

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:32Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 7:33Speaker 02

  We were in the same major for a sec. We met because we were in a screenwriting class together or a film class? History of Media Arts.

• 7:39Drew Afualo?

  Heard of it?

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Yep. Emerson Collins. We're the only two black girls in the film class, and no one can get our names right, too. We were like, what? Well, now we got the braids.

• 7:48Drew Afualo?

  It's one of you. Like, they were getting you guys confused.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  I just know to turn around at Hunter either way.

• 7:53Drew Afualo?

  Yes. They were getting you guys confused? That's strange.

• 7:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally. Yeah, well, it's Boston, so.

• 7:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, oh, so.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  It's kind of, one time, one girl literally said to me, oh, are you, you, or are you the other one? Are you Hunter, are you the other one?

• 8:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh, well.

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Okay, booking, oh, can I curse? Right.

• 8:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course you can.

• 8:10Speaker 02

  Oh, booking faggot number two? Very, very.

• 8:13Drew Afualo?

  Thanks, thanks a lot.

• 8:15Speaker 02

  Okay. Second billing.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  You're safe here.

• 8:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course you can.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  And I say faggot, sorry, sorry.

• 8:22Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 8:24Drew Afualo?

  No, it really, it really was. It really was.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  That's insane. And I don't forget anything.

• 8:28Drew Afualo?

  Like, I remember, and I still remember to this day.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  I remember my name. I know what she does now. No.

• 8:33Drew Afualo?

  What's your sign?

• 8:34Speaker 02

  What am I, I'm a Leo.

• 8:35Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  But an August Leo.

• 8:37Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I love August Leos. Personally, I love August Leos. I'm a, I'm a Virgo. But I'm a September Virgo.

• 8:43Speaker 02

  We both have Virgo placements. Virgo Rising and Virgo Moon, yeah?

• 8:47Drew Afualo?

  Ooh, okay, T, period. What about you? Sign?

• 8:51Speaker 02

  Taurus.

• 8:51Drew Afualo?

  I love Tauruses.

• 8:52Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 8:53Drew Afualo?

  I do love Tauruses. The Tauruses get along really well with Virgos, too.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  We do.

• 8:57Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 8:58Speaker 02

  I dated one of these before.

• 8:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's my fucking girl.

• 9:01Speaker 02

  Oh, she's such a Taurus, too. What are, what are Taurus-Virgo friendships like?

• 9:05Drew Afualo?

  I think, I feel like the two of us get along, well, I think we're both earth signs, first of all.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so like, we, we both are really grounded in a lot of things. We have a lot of the same whimsy, her and I.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  And Capricorns are the more strict earth signs, and I feel like Virgo and Taurus are a little bit more loose with it.

• 9:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's true. And Capricorns, I've talked mad shit on Capricorns publicly.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  As you should.

• 9:24Drew Afualo?

  Which is funny, because I do love Capricorns dearly, but I've joked about how like, I was like, I feel like they're the real villains, like Aries and Gemini, Scorpios, they catch a lot of the flak that I think should be given on a silver platter, or maybe in the form of a fist, to Capricorns. Like, I'm like, Capricorns are like Batman villains, the way they move, like, I really do think that they can charm people very easily, and then when they decide they're done, they're done. And they're like, you're dead to them.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:47Drew Afualo?

  I find that to be weird.

• 9:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:48Drew Afualo?

  And strange. I'm on to you, Capricorns.

• 9:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:51Drew Afualo?

  The first time I trended on Twitter, I was talking shit on Capricorns.

• 9:54Speaker 02

  No, astrology is a great-

• 9:55Drew Afualo?

  People wanted to kill me over it. Okay.

• 9:58Speaker 02

  I'm surprised there are so many of them.

• 9:59Drew Afualo?

  I know. I did not know. And this is what I'm talking about. When they were sending me death threats, I'm gonna see this is the shit I'm talking about with y'all.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  You're like, you check someone's profile, you're like, uh, you're an Aries. Why are you even in this fight? Hold on.

• 10:10Drew Afualo?

  Relax, okay?

• 10:11Speaker 02

  There's some payroll. Capricorn is a mythical like that. I see it. I see it.

• 10:15Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so you both, maybe you majored in journalism, screenwriting. So what was your guys' original plan? Like, what were you guys thinking? Anywhere in media? Was there somewhere specific you wanted to go?

• 10:24Speaker 04

  Um, I wanted to be Nora Ephron. So I wanted to like, start working in magazines, work at New York Magazine, which I did. And then like, leave and eventually like, start writing like, movies or TV or something.

• 10:35Drew Afualo?

  Very cool.

• 10:36Speaker 04

  And then, once I graduated from college, I'm like, there's no way that's ever gonna happen. Have you been outside? No one has a job anywhere.

• 10:42Drew Afualo?

  When'd you guys graduate?

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Uh, twenty.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Twenty sixteen?

• 10:46Speaker 04

  Twenty sixteen, yeah.

• 10:47Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, nice.

• 10:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  I mean, twenty twenty, uh, six. So we just, we just finished.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's why I hesitated.

• 10:56Drew Afualo?

  I graduated twenty seventeen, so I get it. Like, I'm with you.

• 10:59Speaker 04

  You can be like, you're safe here, don't worry.

• 11:01Drew Afualo?

  Again, I'm like, well, I, I know how it is, cuz sometimes when I say how old I am, everyone's like, damn, relax. In TikTok years, I'm a hundred years old.

• 11:09Speaker 02

  It's amazing, though, to have a fully developed brain and be able, cuz like, I feel like I can consume because I have a fully developed brain.

• 11:14Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  I'm so scared of the minds that are like, twenty-six under, that are scrolling right now, consuming anything online.

• 11:22Speaker 04

  I'm really, I'm really afraid of people whose like, COVID experience was in like, high school.

• 11:27Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 11:28Speaker 04

  Or in college.

• 11:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:28Speaker 04

  That really, I think we're gonna be seeing ramifications of that for decades to come.

• 11:33Drew Afualo?

  For a while.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  I'm not gonna lie.

• 11:34Drew Afualo?

  A ripple effect.

• 11:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 11:35Speaker 02

  And not in a good way.

• 11:36Speaker 04

  George Bush is like, not me.

• 11:38Drew Afualo?

  That's what I think you can say that about.

• 11:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 11:40Drew Afualo?

  The one thing you can say.

• 11:41Speaker 04

  Everything else, all him.

• 11:46Drew Afualo?

  You know what that felt like to you? Someone, one of my comedian friends told me, he's like, you got such a great payoff. Like, like if he tells me a joke and it makes me laugh, he's like, god, that was so nice. I was so worth it.

• 11:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:58Drew Afualo?

  I was like, a very validating laugh.

• 11:59Speaker 02

  You do, and you do in every crowd I've ever worked, like, that's fantastic.

• 12:02Speaker 04

  It feels like getting like, a star on a paper. Like, that's really what it feels like.

• 12:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, thank you.

• 12:09Drew Afualo?

  Speaking of, though, the year twenty sixteen, I just saw a video the other day where, I think it was a high school, they had a spirit day that was twenty sixteen themed. Oh my god, you look at me and I'm bones. I'm just a skeleton. It hurts to me. I could, I was like, it's too fucking soon to be doing that.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  No, what even happened?

• 12:26Drew Afualo?

  What happened to AIDS Day? You guys were doing fucking twenty sixteen day.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  Did you have a lot of themed days in high school?

• 12:32Drew Afualo?

  In high school, yeah, we had like, a spirit week, like, every year during homecoming week.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:37Drew Afualo?

  But, um, honestly, my spirit weeks were quite progressive for the time that I was in high school. Like, I graduated in twenty thirteen. Like, I think twenty ten, twenty eleven, we did a gender swap day.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:48Drew Afualo?

  So everybody was in drag, like, for real. But like, everyone went all out. Like, if you were a couple, they dressed like each other, like, almost identical.

• 12:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:56Drew Afualo?

  And like, I dressed like, of course I was in drag. I was in boy drag all day.

• 12:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:59Drew Afualo?

  I couldn't wait to be in drag. I was like, yes! Like, if I could ever dress up as a boy, I would.

• 13:04Speaker 02

  I can be comfortable. Oh my god!

• 13:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, oh my god, I would love to be a boy.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Our all-girls school had that. We had like, a gender swap day. And I found the photos for it recently, and I was like, so, that's a marion. I was like, what the hell? Like, I was really fully fitted, brothers full out. It was crazy. And then I was like, hmm, maybe there's something I can, I could roll around that gender expression, see what comes up, but it was crazy.

• 13:29Drew Afualo?

  Just see what shakes out. Okay, so you wanted to work in, at The New Yorker, which you did.

• 13:34Speaker 04

  New York Magazine, yeah.

• 13:35Drew Afualo?

  Which you did, which is amazing. What about you, Peyton? What did you wanna do?

• 13:38Speaker 02

  I just wanted to have a job.

• 13:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  A dead ass. Yeah, like, I, I think like, I'm very like, grateful for my relationship with my parents and how they were, but like, I just wanted to get out of LA first. I was like, I'm gonna go to the East Coast, got cold real fast.

• 13:55Speaker 04

  This is so ladybird.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  It really, yeah, it really is.

• 13:57Drew Afualo?

  So ladybird, yeah.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  And I jumped out of the car first, by the way, I did it. And I did it twice. Not joking. My parents are annoyed. But I just was like, so ready to just like, be in my own like, body and world. Like, I wasn't even thinking, like, here's my five-year plan, despite being a Virgo rising. Um, like, I actually only really switched to journalism cuz of Hunter. Um, she was like, I need a fashion column. Mind you, I dress like shit.

• 14:23Speaker 04

  Wait, do you remember when you put that one, you had that Colorado crew neck? And you put it on free and for sale?

• 14:29Speaker 02

  There's like a Facebook, there's a Facebook group.

• 14:31Speaker 04

  Do you remember this?

• 14:31Speaker 02

  No. There, she would wear this like, Colorado crew neck that looked like it was from like, I don't know. I don't know. No, no, just like the, like the mountains. I don't know. And she put it on free and for sale, and I commented, thank god.

• 14:45Speaker 02

  And you were like, oh my god, like, do you wanna?

• 14:47Drew Afualo?

  You getting bullied on your own post?

• 14:48Speaker 02

  Do you wanna buy it? I was like, no, I'm so glad you're giving it up.

• 14:51Drew Afualo?

  No, I'm encouraging you. Someone take this off her hands.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  Immediately.

• 14:55Speaker 04

  Begging someone buy this.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  I will pay someone to take this from her.

• 14:57Drew Afualo?

  Said, oh my god, please, please, someone buy this, please.

• 15:00Speaker 02

  It was very crazy. I was really, I love to express myself. The only thing about me, that's never changed.

• 15:07Speaker 04

  No, but she, I, yes, I thought, cuz it was a style column. I thought, okay, that should be perfect. Six picks, that's what it was called.

• 15:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was really cute. And then I felt, I had so much fun doing it.

• 15:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  And then I started running our like, fashion publication, and was like, oh, that's what I wanna be doing, or this is really fun for me at the very least. And I think a lot of my career, and I'll round up to say your career too, like, has been a lot of, oh, this is really fun, let's keep seeing what comes from there.

• 15:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  And then building alongside it. So it's like, turned into like, obviously like, writing always, but then like, comedy and like, performance, and I feel like that's, and then now eventually this podcast, yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 04

  But I think too, something that like, having started in traditional media, oh my god, that sounds like that was boring than it's ever, but like, we would be making stuff for like, media companies. And at a certain point, it's like, well, why don't we just like, make that stuff for ourselves?

• 15:51Drew Afualo?

  No, you guys are so real, because I, I worked for the NFL before I like, started doing this. I got fired and then COVID happened, and then I started making videos. So like, I was doing the same shit for the NFL. I actually got hired to specifically target women, like, specifically target women and

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:07Drew Afualo?

  grow a, a female fanbase on their socials, because their socials were like, ninety percent men, obviously. Uh, but women move units. Women buy shit, women follow you. Like, women were like, the highest, I guess it was like, the highest purchaser of NFL programming. So like, they were basically not showing up at all on social media, but they were like, spending money. So they wanted to like, target them. When I interviewed for that job, bitch, I did a PowerPoint. Virgo down, hoe. I literally was like, yes, I'm so glad you guys came today. So I was like, doing like, a whole thing on how I was gonna target women, whatever. But they wanted, every time I tried to write jokes and stuff to like, like memes or whatever, cuz I was running socials for them. I was trying, every time I tried to pitch it,

• 16:45Drew Afualo?

  oh my god, me trying to pitch Ice in the Veins to like, a fifty-year-old white woman, she's not gonna understand. And I'm going, you know, it's like, Lamar Jackson does it, it's gonna be fine, it's gonna be fine, they're gonna, kids are gonna love it. And they're always like, hmm, maybe we do more like, doggo shit. Like, they really love to do doggo stuff, like, no shade, that is what they loved. They loved a team mascot that was a dog that they could call a doggo. I had to type the word doggo so many times, I was like, a piece of me is dying here.

• 17:11Speaker 02

  That's a slur in some communities.

• 17:12Drew Afualo?

  A piece of me is becoming unfunny. The longer I stay here, the more, the less funny I am.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  So I'm a corpse now. Yeah, I actually, I worked in social too. I, I did marketing for a really long time, um, in editorial. I worked in style in paper magazine, and then I went to Matt Cosmetics, and I was doing

• 17:28Speaker 04

  Nice.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  their global social, and I was like, I'll die.

• 17:31Speaker 04

  Can I say very quickly, the thing of, of brands like, commenting on celebrity Instagrams, like with funny comments, that was like you.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. A lot of people jack my swag, I'm not gonna lie.

• 17:41Speaker 04

  She literally invented that.

• 17:43Drew Afualo?

  I was pioneering.

• 17:43Speaker 04

  I'd say, she was the Oppenheimer of that.

• 17:46Speaker 02

  I was getting in trouble every day for that.

• 17:48Drew Afualo?

  And nobody died, by the way.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 17:50Speaker 04

  And no, we're like, keep a tally.

• 17:54Drew Afualo?

  And not one person died.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  We're just here to do a type five, by the way.

• 18:00Drew Afualo?

  The Oppenheimer of funny comments. Yeah, that's so period. That's honestly so.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  The same.

• 18:06Drew Afualo?

  That's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Like, you're, you're bringing these ideas, and they're kinda like, I don't get it.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:11Drew Afualo?

  Right. Like, I joke all the time that one time at work, I like, I saw, Baby Yoda was huge at the time. You have to understand, Baby Yoda was huge at the time.

• 18:18Speaker 02

  Still huge for my mother.

• 18:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 18:21Drew Afualo?

  Don't you wonder. Your mom's holding it down.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  Don't ask her, don't ask her.

• 18:25Drew Afualo?

  And I remember, uh, Russell Wilson like, changed his profile picture to a picture of like, him as Baby Yoda, but basically it was just Baby Yoda with his jersey on. And, um, his hair. And then I was like, oh my god, he's with Ciara, I'll make one of Ciara. And then like, that would be funny, I could tweet it at her, maybe she'll change it, that'll be a whole like, thing. I spent, of, of course I lied on my resume, and I said I was proficient in Adobe Suite. Me just thinking I knew, that meant I knew what Adobe Suite was, I didn't know how to use Photoshop. So I was teaching myself how to use Photoshop, and I was photoshopping the picture of Baby Yoda. And I did it for maybe four hours. Um, and then I sent it to my supervisor on Slack. I was like, hey, I made this, like, blah, blah, blah, explain the whole thing, send it. She goes, I don't get it, and don't charge for this. Oh, that's about half my workday.

• 19:08Drew Afualo?

  Um, so I was like, I only had to charge four hours for that day, cuz she said it wasn't funny, and it wouldn't make sense.

• 19:15Speaker 04

  That's crazy, cuz I still have Baby Yoda tweets that like, go platinum, like.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Did I tweet that right now?

• 19:22Drew Afualo?

  That's why I said, my funniness was dying slowly there. Cuz I even pitched like, the, the head coach of the Chiefs, he looks like the Lorax. So I kept trying to pitch, like, let me call him the Lorax, I'll make the players the trees. Like, that's so funny, he loves the trees, he wants to protect the trees, like. And the way that they would look at me, like I was the dumbest person who's ever fucking lived. Like, I'd be in a boardroom pitching, and I'd be like, and that's all I had for this meeting to say?

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Thank you so much for coming out.

• 19:49Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much, guys, I appreciate your time. Thank you.

• 19:52Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, there's something really like, beautiful.

• 19:54Speaker 04

  The tables have turned, I'll say.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Hello.

• 19:55Speaker 04

  We are the ones in power now.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Hello. Look at us. We're in LA.

• 19:59Drew Afualo?

  I love that, like, in the big city, mama. I love that all three of us had the same kind of idea, though, where we were kind of grinding at it, and then we were like, I think, I can do this myself.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:08Drew Afualo?

  I can do this, do this for me.

• 20:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:10Drew Afualo?

  Even when they fired me, they like, told me, um, this job doesn't work anymore, in a part-time capacity, whatever the fuck that meant, um, even though they were telling me to go home, and not come back. Um, okay, no worries. Um, but they also told me that they just felt like I didn't know how to grow a following. Turns out I do.

• 20:27Speaker 02

  Wait, it's crazy even to say those words out loud. Like, you don't know how to grow a following. Well, obviously you don't either.

• 20:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, well, maybe it's cuz you're not listening to me. Maybe it's cuz I keep tweeting doggo and no one finds that funny. Has anyone thought about that?

• 20:40Speaker 02

  I don't know. But you're being like, just give me five, I'll be right back. Give me a sec, okay, hold on.

• 20:46Drew Afualo?

  Let me cook. I was like, no one wants to let me cook over here. And thank god, honestly.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:50Drew Afualo?

  Cuz if I didn't, I would've, honestly, I probably would've built them a huge fucking following.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying.

• 20:54Drew Afualo?

  I also remember too, at the time, I kept telling them, you, you guys should make a TikTok, because like, this is like, at the time TikTok was like, exploding, and then obviously COVID like, really launched it. But like, I was like, I really think maybe we should get on TikTok. Like, the NFL did not exist on TikTok at all, and they told me, uh, that was a waste of time, cuz they, they were like, that app's not gonna go anywhere. Oh for two. On me and TikTok, that sucks.

• 21:20Drew Afualo?

  Hey, don't gamble.

• 21:23Drew Afualo?

  That calcia no name.

• 21:28Speaker 04

  Do you keep, I mean, do you keep a list in your head of like all the bad advice people have given you?

• 21:32Drew Afualo?

  Of course I do.

• 21:34Speaker 04

  Like, I, it's.

• 21:35Drew Afualo?

  I remember everyone's first and last names. Of course I do. I remember my supervisor's name all the time. I think about it constantly. She's really lucky. I'm a good person and I don't say it.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  Period.

• 21:44Drew Afualo?

  But yes, I think about it all the time. I think about it constantly. I'm sure y'all do too.

• 21:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course.

• 21:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I made a video, name the person, put it online.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  You don't pay my bills.

• 21:53Drew Afualo?

  I was someone that was torturing you?

• 21:55Speaker 02

  No, I'm crazy.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  And I'm petty, what the hell?

• 21:59Drew Afualo?

  What's funny is like, I kept joking about the NFL. I kept saying like, because they did tell me in a meeting that I did not know how to grow the following. That's why they were letting me go. Um, amongst other things, I'm sure. Um, but they, I remember, fast forward, I started doing this and then I did the Pro Bowl one year. Um, and my husband actually got asked to go too. And I remember it was only like maybe 10 people. We were two of them and it was a real long like approval process because the NFL like didn't like me. Because they really, I, they did not bank on me coming back.

• 22:32Drew Afualo?

  Girl, Alexa, play Return of the Mac. Like they were not counting on me. And I remember, I was like, I'm the one who got fired. I'm the one who should be upset. If I'm not upset, why are you upset?

• 22:45Speaker 02

  Loki, like they would play the victim.

• 22:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's what I was like, what the hell? I was like, if I'm over it, what are the odds you're not? Um, you guys are fine. But I remember like at the time, what someone on my team was like, yeah, maybe we just like, you know, don't, don't joke about them anymore. And I was like, I'm gonna do whatever I want. No worries. But then I do remember when we went and it was like a whole weekend thing. Um, they did this whole like compilation video at the end. Everyone was in it except me and my husband. They put 10 people, by the way, only 10. They're filming everyone except the two of us. They like, it's almost explicitly cut me out of almost every edit.

• 23:21Speaker 04

  So I'm gonna have to say, I have to stand on that one. Like, that's kind of hilarious.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  But also the same people still work there?

• 23:27Speaker 04

  I, I'm sorry that I can.

• 23:30Drew Afualo?

  You guys want me there to talk about being there and then don't want to include me in the program?

• 23:33Speaker 02

  That's insane.

• 23:34Speaker 04

  So crazy.

• 23:36Drew Afualo?

  And that's funny. And they think I don't remember. I do.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  I journaled about it that same night. Wait, that's insane that I think the, the people still work there. Like move on, no offense. Like.

• 23:45Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I, I talked to a couple of people that, when I did go there, I talked to a couple of people that were still working there when I was.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:52Drew Afualo?

  And they, uh, they were like, oh yeah, like that's so, I, I wondered what happened to you. And I was like, oh, they fired me, girl. Like they, they told me to never come back. I said, okay.

• 24:03Speaker 02

  See ya.

• 24:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I said, no worries. No worries.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Oh, you and your husband. I don't, I'm not a big believer in straight love. Unless it's J Lo and Ben and you too. Y'all are so fucking beautiful together. Oh my God.

• 24:16Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  I was getting photos of your wedding and I was just like, as a parasocial being.

• 24:22Speaker 04

  Seriously, so gorgeous.

• 24:23Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. I appreciate that. I, I like to think that I'm not as annoying as a straight girl. Um, mostly because I just so happen to be married. It's just not something that's like, it's not like a fun, yeah, marriage is just like, it's like a fun fact. It's not really, it's an icebreaker. You know what I mean? More than anything.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  All right, two truths and a lie. Like, oh, I'm married. One of the things.

• 24:43Drew Afualo?

  And I, I think it kind of worked out because my husband like, as, and objectively, this is not me gassing him, trust me. As good looking as he is objectively, like he really hates attention and he hates being filmed, which is perfect because I love attention and I love to be filmed. So it's a nice little balance.

• 25:01Speaker 02

  I love that in a man.

• 25:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, a lot of people asked me how I found him. I was like, we went to high school together, which is crazy. We are not high school sweethearts.

• 25:07Speaker 04

  I love that distinction. My best friend married a guy that went to high school with us.

• 25:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:11Speaker 04

  And she's like, we're not high school sweethearts.

• 25:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I say that all the time.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  And don't put that on me.

• 25:15Speaker 04

  I think it's like, no, that's so different.

• 25:17Drew Afualo?

  That on me. I was cool as fuck after.

• 25:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was laying real pipe after high school. All right. Let's get that straight. First of all, then I made my way back.

• 25:27Speaker 02

  Sorry, I was laying real pipe.

• 25:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. Big time, big time, big time. Me, me, not him, me.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  He's just like, never get ready.

• 25:34Drew Afualo?

  That was like, that's like my prime whore years were college. That's the best time. Yeah, for me. That was my prime whore years. So then when I got out the game, like right after I graduated college, I like moved back home. And then when I moved back home, I started dating my now husband. So it worked out pretty well. We like both like went different ways. And then we, we talk all the time about it being like, there was like somewhat of an invisible string between the two of us. Like I really never, ever, ever thought that we would ever date, let alone get married, like ever.

• 26:04Speaker 04

  But that's for the bad. It's like, it would be strange, more strange if you're like, no, I knew it was him the whole time.

• 26:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  What was all the other stuff?

• 26:11Drew Afualo?

  Okay. Yeah, this is a placeholder for me.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  I was just keeping myself busy. Don't worry. Yeah. Ooh, I love whore years. I wish I was a bigger whore in college.

• 26:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 26:21Speaker 02

  I was like mostly like wifed up because I, I wanted to be like, I'm not like other girls. Okay. I've got a boyfriend.

• 26:27Drew Afualo?

  That was my sister too.

• 26:30Speaker 02

  I have a boyfriend.

• 26:30Drew Afualo?

  My sister found out she was gay too in college. So she, she also spent the majority of it. We had like complete opposite experiences in college. What about you?

• 26:38Speaker 04

  I wasn't, well, I remember a lot of her exes.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  I bring them everywhere like a purse. I'm like, come on. Whatever, come along. Get a little of this.

• 26:47Drew Afualo?

  Changing your jewelry for the day.

• 26:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I'm big on accountability. So I'm like, if I would be crazy, you gotta watch. Okay. Somebody's gotta know what's happening. And Hunter's eyes peeled like that.

• 26:56Speaker 04

  I truly, I was like, Loki, leave redacted at home. I'm not gonna come if she's gonna be there.

• 27:03Drew Afualo?

  I hate him.

• 27:03Speaker 04

  And, and her bandanas too.

• 27:07Speaker 02

  My lineup of my exes is like, what the?

• 27:11Speaker 02

  What was she going through at each stage?

• 27:13Speaker 04

  I, I want to hold space though for like not having a type. I don't think I have a type.

• 27:18Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 27:19Drew Afualo?

  Did you come out after college?

• 27:21Speaker 02

  Like at the end of it. I like had broken up with like my longest term boyfriend and then I kind of just like kicked the door down.

• 27:28Drew Afualo?

  That's awesome.

• 27:29Speaker 02

  And I was just sizzling everybody.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  I was sizzling whatever, whoever I could.

• 27:35Drew Afualo?

  Laying pipe.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  I was laying pipe. Yeah. I found my, sizzling real, by the way. Just, they tried to say it's not, but it is. Laying pipe. Also very real.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Hunter, so were you a whore in college?

• 27:48Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 27:49Drew Afualo?

  And you don't have a type. Are you gay?

• 27:51Speaker 02

  No.

• 27:51Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  We're working on it.

• 27:52Drew Afualo?

  Sorry. You're still hoping, we're hoping, we're hoping.

• 27:57Speaker 04

  No, I'm definitely the token straight.

• 27:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 27:59Speaker 04

  Our friend group. No, it's great. It's great until it's award season and I invite people over to watch at my apartment. And then people are very loud and I'm like, shh, I want to hear. Please, can I hear what this, what they're saying?

• 28:15Speaker 02

  Down.

• 28:16Speaker 04

  And you know, she's.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  Hunter, you invited more than three gay guys over. You kind of can't, it's, it's not in your hands anymore. It's in God's hands.

• 28:22Speaker 04

  Truly, I'm like, okay.

• 28:24Drew Afualo?

  Giving yourself over to the sound.

• 28:26Speaker 04

  To the sound is great. Truly, truly, to the wall of sound. I'm like, no, wait, I just want to know what they're saying. Um, no, I, I played myself that night. Yeah, that was.

• 28:38Speaker 02

  Cause the thing about gay people, it's like, they are jobless as hell. Even if they have a full-time job, it's still jobless mentality. And Hunter and straight people, it's like, so I have a job. And I'm looking to keep it.

• 28:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, jobs first, jobs first. Yeah.

• 28:52Speaker 04

  Jobless mentality is crazy.

• 28:55Drew Afualo?

  It's why they're so unburdened though. That's why you're so fun. That's why gay people are so fun.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  I'm checking locations from like going home, being like, it's 4 a.m. Y'all are still out. Next 8 a.m. Y'all are still out. So how?

• 29:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  How?

• 29:06Drew Afualo?

  And they still go to work sometime. They still show up.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  And they sometimes excel. They don't have like a Monday morning.

• 29:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, or if they're missing, you're kind of like, where were you? Oh, at work. You have a job? Like I didn't even know you had a job. You never talk about it. And I was like, oh, it's just, yeah, I hate it. I'm fine.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  Hate it. It's NFL. Anyway.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  Like on the download like about having a job.

• 29:31Drew Afualo?

  Right, yeah. No, no, no. I don't talk about it in my off hours.

• 29:33Speaker 04

  It's my job.

• 29:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Yeah, my J O B.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  That's what's when I have a job though.

• 29:38Speaker 04

  Wow, wow, wow.

• 29:39Drew Afualo?

  Right. My, my sister actually, um, my sister was in a long-term relationship and then got out of it. Um, right, right around the time I like started doing this. And, um, I remember she was like, yeah, I think I'm gonna date. And I was like, yeah, you should. And at the time, my sister's just like, yeah, and like, I don't know, maybe I like boys. And like, I didn't really feed into it. I was like, you don't fucking like boys. Cause like, we're old, we're in our 30s now. There's no way, bitch. And then like we, as like time went on, like she would sometimes entertain a guy here and there. Like she would like, what if I dated this guy? And then one time I was like, I need to say this. You don't like men. And if you get a boyfriend, I think I'm gonna hate him, whoever it is.

• 30:18Drew Afualo?

  We have one guy already. That's enough. You go be gay. I was like, you are a lesbian bitch. You are capital L lesbian. Enough. Enough of this tomfoolery. Go find other women.

• 30:33Drew Afualo?

  I'm over it. I don't want to hear it anymore.

• 30:35Speaker 04

  Classic lesbian though.

• 30:36Drew Afualo?

  But I, I think that my man is like, he's nice because I was like joking about this with my sister once, but I was like, I mean, not for nothing. My dad's kind of like this too, like seen but not heard. Like my man doesn't like to talk. So like when we're in group settings, like he's just listening.

• 30:50Speaker 04

  I love that. That's, that's really important to have a, to be with a man who doesn't want to weigh in.

• 30:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:57Drew Afualo?

  Ever.

• 30:58Speaker 04

  I really think he like doesn't, he doesn't have anything to add.

• 31:02Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 31:03Speaker 04

  He is there to be like, oh wow. Have you ever seen that TikTok? That's like, um, your friend's boyfriend of 10 years. It's like, hey, so like, are you still working at that? Totally. Whatever you say. Like, you don't need to do anything.

• 31:13Drew Afualo?

  None of it.

• 31:14Speaker 04

  What I need you to do is put your car down at the bar.

• 31:16Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 31:16Speaker 04

  And then walk away. That's all you need to do.

• 31:19Drew Afualo?

  And then leave the bar entirely.

• 31:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, I need you to. No, maybe so. And actually you can be outside in the car with it running, waiting. That's what I need.

• 31:27Drew Afualo?

  That's what I need you to pick me up when I'm done.

• 31:29Speaker 04

  No.

• 31:30Drew Afualo?

  Even like sometimes when I have girls, girls nights, like at my house, like obviously I share it with my husband, but like when I, when we have, I have girlfriends over.

• 31:37Speaker 04

  I want it. I want to try like a new way of marriage. We don't live together.

• 31:40Drew Afualo?

  We're like Goldberg over here.

• 31:41Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 31:42Drew Afualo?

  Like a mother and daughter's, like, or like a duplex where they live in the front house.

• 31:46Speaker 04

  Coorders.

• 31:47Drew Afualo?

  You live in the back house.

• 31:48Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 31:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but the bigger one goes to the wife, obviously.

• 31:50Speaker 04

  I would love that.

• 31:51Drew Afualo?

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• 33:21Drew Afualo?

  of letting it sit there for four business days. That deserves a Coca-Cola. And there's something about cracking open an ice cold, perfectly fizzy Coca-Cola after finally doing the thing that just hits. It's crisp, refreshing, and feels like my own little reward. So, this is me officially giving you permission to celebrate the small stuff. You folded the laundry. You made the appointment you've been putting off. You finally did the annoying little task that has been haunting your to-do list all week. Congratulations, babe. Enjoy your win. Actually, I just finished another podcast shoot day, so I think that counts too. Okay. Enjoy Coca-Cola. When I have girls nights, like I'll have my girlfriends over and like when everyone

• 34:04Drew Afualo?

  gets there, he's like, all right, see ya. He goes upstairs. I don't see him. I don't hear from him. He's, and then if we want something, he just orders it and it goes to the front door.

• 34:13Speaker 04

  That's beautiful.

• 34:14Drew Afualo?

  And then he'll just text me and be like, hey, it's at the door. I love it. Ah, I love it.

• 34:19Speaker 04

  But I do live a loud mouth messy man though, too. That's why I know some of my fucking gay guys, but I'm like, it's, it is kind of, because men sometimes do it better than us. Like, I feel like sometimes women try to be a little bit too covert and like, well, I'm like, just say it. Just be, just be messy. Just put on main.

• 34:34Drew Afualo?

  I honestly think that's why I like Gemini guys so much. Because like they can really cut to the core. Like they can say something meaner than I could, would ever think or feel. Yeah, I appreciate their candor.

• 34:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 34:42Drew Afualo?

  Like men, men have a lot of like, they're very, there's a very blunt honesty to them. Like just across the board. Because even Caleb's like that. I joke, I joke all the time that Caleb's like one of the most honest friends I have, like, which I appreciate about him. And that includes with anything. So if he's like done talking, he's like, I'm done talking. Now I'm gonna leave. No worries.

• 35:01Speaker 04

  No worries. Cool.

• 35:02Drew Afualo?

  Love you. So later.

• 35:05Drew Afualo?

  A clear concise communicator. I like that about you.

• 35:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:10Drew Afualo?

  You guys are thinking, have I ever had a really honest conversation with him? Probably.

• 35:15Speaker 04

  I, no, I was really thinking about how one time one of my straight friend, like straight male friends was like, Hunter, you don't need a boyfriend. You need a Task Rabbit. Like you need a man to hang things.

• 35:26Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 35:27Speaker 04

  To put WD-40 on the door so it doesn't squeak.

• 35:30Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  Um, well, girl, just get you a stud.

• 35:34Speaker 04

  They do, this pretty little thing, they'd do anything for you, girl. They do anything.

• 35:38Drew Afualo?

  You're gay, you're gay. She's trying to give it to you.

• 35:40Speaker 04

  I'm burning sage.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  I'm trying to pass it on.

• 35:47Speaker 04

  Actually, that's not true. I'm like, capacity for queer people. I feel like we've done too much. We've invited too many people. It's a little too kumbaya for me. I'm like, I don't know.

• 35:56Drew Afualo?

  The door is closed.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  It is actually. I'm checking IDs. I think people are afraid to be straight. They, good people are being silenced and I don't like that. All you have is Sabrina Carpenter right now, holding it down for you. I'm like, okay, no, be straight. You're loud. It's okay. She's so, she loves dick. I love that about her. I really love that about her. I'm not joking at all. Like, she's not, she's not afraid to love dick.

• 36:17Drew Afualo?

  No, she loves, she loves that little like, uh, what do you call it? What's the little sunblock baby? You know the, the baby that's on the sunblock?

• 36:25Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 36:26Drew Afualo?

  Coppertone. Yeah. She loves that little like, yeah.

• 36:29Speaker 04

  That is so her.

• 36:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's so her. That's so Sabrina.

• 36:32Speaker 04

  That's so Sabrina. Yeah. I'm gonna text her that.

• 36:38Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so I, I do want to pivot back to you guys and your career. So when, when did you guys decide, like, I think we're just gonna do this for us. I think we kind of want to pursue one around. Was there like something that happened or were you kind of just like, I think now's the time? Did you guys start pursuing something, comedy, anything like that? That kind of inspired you?

• 36:54Speaker 04

  I think for me, it was like COVID. I quit my job, started a newsletter, hung up. Number one newsletter on Substack for a reason TV. Um, but that was the time I was like, okay, there's so much uncertainty. Like, fuck it. Why not do this right now? When I kind of, I'm either like, working on a job that I love, but feels like very different. Like talking, writing about movies like during COVID. And so I might as well try it for myself. And then, and then it was kind of from there, like, you know, it's, it's like, okay, now I can freelance. I'm like, my whole world opens up and I can try so many more things, which was nice.

• 37:27Drew Afualo?

  What about you, Peyton?

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, well, my last like full-time job was at Mac and then when I quit that, it was kind of right around when we started podcasts.

• 37:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Conversations. And I was just working two full-time jobs. I was working my real full-time job and then like freelancing. Um, because I specifically didn't tell people about my job because I didn't want to build a personality around my work. And I feel like working in media, I did that for a long time. Like I was so attached to the comma next to my name of like, the access I was allowed or like, the certain amount of privileges that came with like, working in and around celebrity.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:01Speaker 02

  And so when I got like, kind of like a Daddy Warburg's job with like a sickening title that made my mom really proud. I was like, what if I just kept this private? So I tried, I like soft launched being freelance. Like no one knew I also had a full-time job, which was affirming for me to be like, oh, like I still matter. And like, I don't need this, you know, work attached to me to make me matter. But then I got really tired really fast. Um, so I quit that job and then we had started the pod, like started conversations of the podcast at the same time. And then I think I just like poured into my own work, like.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  Uh, writing and now comedy. But comedy also kind of came mostly from a little bit of the podcast.

• 38:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  Like I, I mean, I'd always like, been funny, but I was just like.

• 38:49Drew Afualo?

  You move off.

• 38:50Speaker 02

  I just came out the womb, came out the womb like, ah, yeah. But, but like, I think like, like my comedic writing skills had started to take shape to like, take different forms and.

• 39:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 39:01Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, it all feels like married.

• 39:03Speaker 04

  Like wrote a lot of funny stuff too.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:06Speaker 04

  During that time, like.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  Like how Zoe Kravitz turned Channing Tatum into her art hub boyfriend.

• 39:10Speaker 04

  Right. Yeah, exactly.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  Tutorial for those wondering.

• 39:12Speaker 04

  And you were making funny videos too.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. I got, I mean, the video part feels more of like, oh, I'm, I'm just getting into a practice or a medium that already exists. And, um, I like engaging with people that way. I love working in social media. Like, I love communicating with people online. I think it's such a skill. Um, and I do think like, I love being a people person and it felt like just an extension of that.

• 39:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  Um, building like a community around a shared interest or even shared language. Um, and I feel like that was something that kind of, yeah, just like informed the way I talk on the podcast or the way that I like, will tell a joke or do certain stand-up. And, um, yeah, it just kind of felt like this natural ecosystem that all feeds into each other around like storytelling.

• 39:53Drew Afualo?

  Familiarly.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, totally.

• 39:55Drew Afualo?

  Also, your, your bit about, uh, Zoe Kravitz and Channing Tatum. Do you guys think that was really him running that, you know, that hate, hate account?

• 40:02Speaker 04

  I don't think so. No, I don't think so. I think it was someone in his circle. But I don't.

• 40:07Drew Afualo?

  Peyton thinks otherwise.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  No.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  No, well, I'm gonna just drop my story, cuz I don't care. This is, this is how Channing Tatum followed me on Instagram. Still does, by the way.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  I, late one night, he posted some little kind of thirst trap photo, and I commented on it, "Arm." And then minutes later, I got a follow back. And I was like, "Whore?"

• 40:32Speaker 02

  And I'm not your freak, don't worry. But I was like, "Wait, what?" That's how, that's how Sue sees it. That's how he gets one.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  Arm, just arm.

• 40:41Speaker 04

  Something about "arm" makes me think that like dramaturgically, that does not really match how that account was talking. Like, the person, the person who sits down at Nonya Business Instagram account is not seeing "arm" and appreciating why that's like so, like why that's flirting.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  I think a WIGA would understand why that's flirting.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  And I, I know WIGAs, I'll tell you that real well.

• 41:03Speaker 04

  I don't think Nonya Business is a WIGA. I don't think so. That, that to me is a cousin who has been kept a little too close on payroll.

• 41:12Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 41:12Speaker 04

  And wants to, and wants to support, he thinks he's helping, but he's, he's, cousins are never helping. They never are.

• 41:18Speaker 02

  You gotta get Channing on here, and I, and you gotta get him.

• 41:20Drew Afualo?

  I gotta get him on the pod.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  I think you would.

• 41:21Speaker 04

  And just ask him straight up.

• 41:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I had to say, "Was that you, yes or no?" Say, say right now, right now, yes or no, yes or no? I just talk really fast.

• 41:30Drew Afualo?

  I love to think that it was him.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  Why not?

• 41:32Drew Afualo?

  I love to think that because I think men are so dramatic, and that would be so hilarious if someone as famous as him was going and doing that shit. That weirdo, like, normal person shit. Well, that's also the most ex thing to do.

• 41:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:44Drew Afualo?

  Like, to go and send hate, like, if you're, and if your ex is famous, it's even funnier.

• 41:48Speaker 02

  But if my ex was Zoe Kravitz, I'm being crazy. I'm being my craziest self. She's the baddest bitch in the game.

• 41:55Drew Afualo?

  In fact, I'm taking credit, I'm like, "That was me." Yeah, I'm going insane, yeah, that was me.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Now what?

• 42:02Drew Afualo?

  If anything, if anything, he would probably make fans, honestly. They forget white guys for far less. So like, I'm sure they would forget him for that.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  If that's a crime he's committing, let him do it. Let him rip.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  I mean, I'm crazy, and he's, yeah, the horn, obviously.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  I like the horn ones too, so I was like, I can see, I'm picking up what you're putting down.

• 42:19Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes I joke about this, but I'm like, "You guys are lucky I wasn't single when I got in this." You have no idea the kind of cat I'd be throwing, bitch. You have no idea my pussy would be in the wind like you wouldn't believe, bitch. I, I would have the list to end all, I'd have a black book that would blow your fucking mind. I would be doing it just because I fucking can.

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Just for the love of the game.

• 42:38Drew Afualo?

  Purely for the love of the game.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  Just to keep it fresh. Just, just to keep. You love a story.

• 42:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and the way I move online, I'm so fucking mean, I dare you to piss me off. I dare you, you know I won't care, you know I won't give a fuck.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  And this is why I love Virgo.

• 42:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so be happy I got locked down before, be happy.

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:56Drew Afualo?

  Be happy, bitch. Because I, I joke a lot too, that I don't have celebrity crushes, only because I truly believe in my heart of hearts, I could get anybody I wanted. I like really believe that to my core, I'm like, "You give me about 10 minutes." I'm gonna have to tell them I'm married. I'm sorry, I'm married.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  And that's gonna make it worse for me, too, like, I love that. Tiffy taught me something really beautiful, or had like reframed something really beautiful for me, which is like, we were talking about celebrity crushes, celebrity culture, specifically actors, and she was like, "They were in The Music Man," like, that's real, they were losers. Like, they just happen to have symmetrical faces, like, if you think about it, I was like, "That's beautiful, actually."

• 43:30Drew Afualo?

  And then when you treat them like they're just another person, like, they do kind of fuck with it, I think. I think they like that. And I think, I feel like you guys have the same kind of energy I do. So I appreciate that about the two of you.

• 43:39Speaker 02

  Oh, that we close?

• 43:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, just you feel confident.

• 43:42Speaker 02

  That we close. Oh, god.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  Can and will.

• 43:45Speaker 02

  It's a business meeting.

• 43:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, can and will. Yeah.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  Always be closing. No, yeah, yeah.

• 43:50Drew Afualo?

  You have to be closing, period.

• 43:51Speaker 02

  I will say, like, I, I feel like I do know I could flirt with a wall. Like, but just because I like a challenge, let's see what happens. But not like cuz of like, "Oh, I'm so interested." Like, I think that's more, it's more like the sport.

• 44:03Speaker 04

  No, I, I, watching Peyton flirt is a real, it's a, it's, it's, it's like watching a fish in water. It's like you're watching, you're watching someone in, yeah, exactly, you're watching someone in their element.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  What she was meant to do.

• 44:16Drew Afualo?

  It's like in the movie Soul, when they're in the zone.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  No, exactly, exactly.

• 44:20Drew Afualo?

  That's her flirting.

• 44:21Speaker 04

  And I'm the, in Soul specifically, I'm like the one thing with like the abacus, who's like counting how many souls can come and go. Never felt more seen by a Disney character, yes.

• 44:29Drew Afualo?

  You're, you're keeping that running.

• 44:30Speaker 04

  I'm like, "Oh, I don't think he needs to be here."

• 44:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  So that's crazy.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  And when I tell you this, bitch has a file for everything. You reference something that happened in 1992, before she was born, she has a file for it. She's like, "Oh, I know."

• 44:41Drew Afualo?

  You're so fucking mean, same. And my sister too, my sister's also a rolodex of information. My sister and I joke that sometimes, like, if like, famous people, and by famous, I mean like mostly like influencers or reality show people, if they're ever like really rude to my sister, but she always jokes, she's like, "Guess he was never getting on the comment section."

• 45:02Drew Afualo?

  She always tells me. And I'm so like, "Yeah, no, never." And there are some people that I literally, they are banned for life. If I could have a banned for life thing on the outside of this, and they've never even been here.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Good.

• 45:14Drew Afualo?

  I'd be hanging out posters.

• 45:15Speaker 04

  I think it's like the most, it's just like the ugliest thing in the world to me for someone to be mean and then be nice only when they know who you're with, or whatever. If someone is ever like energetically strange to you, I think vice versa too, it's like, no, sorry. No, it's not gonna happen.

• 45:31Drew Afualo?

  I agree, same, and I always feel like the way you treat them is indicative of who you are, to me.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  Oh, completely.

• 45:36Drew Afualo?

  Because obviously you're gonna treat me nice, I can give you something, like, that would help you. But the way you treat people that you don't know, and you don't know if they could help you in any way, that does say a lot to me.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:46Drew Afualo?

  And I'm a big, I'm, I'm like super against like, only picking like by follower count, only picking by like engagement, like anything like that. Like, obviously that shit is like cool to have, but like, if you suck, you suck, and you are not coming on my show. I don't care how many followers you have, or how many times you email me.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  Channing Tatum.

• 46:05Speaker 02

  Nice try. First the burner, now this.

• 46:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, you can come on if you admit that that was you on the podcast.

• 46:12Drew Afualo?

  Okay, tell me, let's talk about the podcast. I would love to know how you guys got started, what, what was the goal, like, and everything in between. So like, when you guys got started, was it just kind of like, you both are just naturally really, really charismatic with each other, obviously?

• 46:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, I think a lot of it was just, we have so much fun talking to each other, and we feel like it's fun, and also, we disagree about a lot of things, which I think, no, I like said with love, and I think one, you know, my favorite comment that someone's ever left is like, "These two girls seem to disagree on everything. Why do they have a podcast?" It's like, that's what makes it fun. Hello, what, you wanted to be like, "Yes, yes, yes, yeah," like that, you wanted to be that?

• 46:48Speaker 02

  You were announcing a family fight, it's the best.

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Like, what? That's the best part of it. It's like us being like, "I don't think it's Channing Tatum, she does, we're talking about it."

• 46:57Drew Afualo?

  No, and it's discourse.

• 46:59Speaker 02

  The comment about, we had an episode where we talked about, uh, who, who's a diva, who gets a diva nomination, who doesn't. And then someone, we both just did.

• 47:07Drew Afualo?

  Like to act like a diva?

• 47:08Speaker 02

  No, like, who, who is like classified as a diva?

• 47:11Drew Afualo?

  Got you.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  Who gets that title?

• 47:12Speaker 04

  Exactly. Like Ariana Grande, diva, Chapel Rohn, diva rising.

• 47:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  On her way. Aspirational diva. But the, there was a comment on that, that was like, "I've changed my mind just about 42,000 times." Every time I'm like, "First, you take an L, then she takes an L," and it was so, like, that's the spirit, I think, of what we're, not even like trying to create just what we like are, and what we do. And I think, um, you know, not just, yeah, our friendship of forever, but more so, I think, like, our natural interests and movies and pop culture, and, um, just like, discourse online, derogatory. And it's something that just feels like was always really easy for us to naturally do, and, um, yeah, and we just relaunched with high ground. And that's been so fabulous, so, yeah.

• 47:57Drew Afualo?

  I actually really love and appreciate that you guys have that dynamic, because I was, I was just talking about this the other day too, on, on here, where I was, I feel like, uh, the internet has killed a lot of things, it's poisoned a lot of things, it's brought a lot of wonderful things, but it's poisoned a lot. One of them that it's poisoned is like the fun of discourse, like, like to be able to debate, and like, the example I was using was fandoms, right? Like, like within fandoms like Twilight, for example, like Team Jacob or Team Edward, that kind of thing. Um, I was like, super into The Summer I Turned Pretty, I loved that dumb little fucking show, I loved it, don't fucking care. But me and my sister would talk about it a lot on a podcast I have with her, and we were Team Jeremiah for a long time. Then I watched the last season, and obviously they nerfed my boy in episode one. Fuck that season. Fuck that season, and fuck that ending, uh, fuck it.

• 48:42Drew Afualo?

  I was like, "I hate Conrad, I don't care." And that's what I was talking about, but the way that women wanted to kill me, bitch, over that, like, me saying like, I don't like.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  Over Jeremiah?

• 48:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, bitch, me saying I don't like Conrad, all of a sudden, girls were like, "And you know what, I think she's actually misogynistic." You guys would have never, you wouldn't have lasted a day in the Team Jacob and Edward discourse, you wouldn't have lasted a day in the Team Peta and Gail discourse. You guys wouldn't have lasted a day, but also, isn't that the fun? Isn't the fun that maybe you don't agree with each other, and you're like, "Oh, that's so interesting, I think this because X, Y, Z." Like, I appreciate that about you.

• 49:16Speaker 04

  Right. Jeremiah to me gives youth pastor, it would never, I could never.

• 49:19Speaker 02

  This is the name.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  No, they took him out. They took him out back, they shot him.

• 49:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they were like, and they shot him, and they brought in a skinwalker, bitch, I don't know who the fuck that was.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  No, Conrad, I have Conopin, take some. I'm like, "You are, you're bringing me down, brother." It was so, let Belly whore out, like, but.

• 49:34Drew Afualo?

  After the first episode, I'm not kidding, in the episode, I made a joke, I was like, "They made him into this guy." Whenever there's a, a group photo of like, all men, straight guys, and they're like, "Make a silly face, he's the guy, Jeremiah turned into the guy that does this." In the picture.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:49Drew Afualo?

  And it killed, it kills when I said it, my, by killed, I mean my sister laughed really hard. And then, and then, if you watch the whole show, when Belly's like, bag gets stolen, and she's chasing it, goes to fucking Burgain, or whatever the fuck she goes to, in Paris. There's a guy outside that's harassing her and her friend, and when they walk away, he goes, "Hey."

• 50:15Drew Afualo?

  I'm psychic. I literally was like, they have cameras in my house and they are watching me.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  They did it just to fuck with you.

• 50:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, everyone was mad at me.

• 50:23Speaker 02

  They're trolling.

• 50:24Drew Afualo?

  And then you put it in the shelves to tease me.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  But yeah, I think like it's so fun to disagree on a thing and I feel like it's like it took me just about two months to finally be like, fine, Ariana, here, close your diva chain, fine.

• 50:39Speaker 04

  Oh, because they had it out for her and I was with them too.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  You're like, get her, and she lives that.

• 50:44Speaker 04

  Literally, I said, and here's the address and here's what time she'll be home.

• 50:48Drew Afualo?

  You're tweeting her address at her.

• 50:50Speaker 04

  He's like, Peyton, I'll drop you off, come here.

• 50:52Speaker 02

  But yeah, I don't know.

• 50:54Speaker 04

  Do you think Ariana Grande diva? Does she earn diva title?

• 50:57Drew Afualo?

  I think at this point, yeah, why not? Fuck it. At this point, I mean, the voice, and I'll go based off the voice alone.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:04Drew Afualo?

  The voice is anointed bitch.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:06Drew Afualo?

  Like, no one else has it and she's had it forever.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 51:09Drew Afualo?

  And honestly, my true and honest belief is if she could perform like Adele, where she just parks and sings, I think her singing career would last a lot longer.

• 51:16Speaker 02

  Just parks is so fun.

• 51:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but everybody is, everybody's obsessed with her being a pop star, so they want her to dance. She fucking doesn't like dancing. She hates dancing.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:24Drew Afualo?

  If she could just sit her ass down and fucking sing, I think she would be happy.

• 51:29Speaker 04

  She always, she always sounds like out of breath when she's singing and dancing because she wants to sing live.

• 51:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 51:33Speaker 04

  Like, that's what's more important to her.

• 51:34Drew Afualo?

  And she said, belter. Like, she can belt, bitch. Like, that's why I was like, I love her. Uh, I'm the wrong person to ask, honestly.

• 51:41Speaker 02

  No, and I love her too. I just, we were on, you know, you are on the winning team. I just like to lose. I like to, I like to cause a little, you know.

• 51:50Drew Afualo?

  Fuck it, I'll do it.

• 51:52Speaker 04

  I don't mind, yeah. Whatever, come and get me, I don't care.

• 51:57Speaker 04

  I've gone through worse. My dad's from Philly, I don't care. I'm like, whatever.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  But yeah, I think like a big part of our podcast is just like, that's the vibe of just like, not just like bickering, but also like, is literally the thesis statement of our podcast.

• 52:13Drew Afualo?

  You're like, I hate that.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, she was like, that's the sound and not aware. But even that, you know what I mean?

• 52:18Drew Afualo?

  No, no, no, I loved it.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  I love irritating her. It's my favorite sport.

• 52:22Speaker 02

  And I'm going for a three-peat, yeah.

• 52:24Drew Afualo?

  Peyton in six, I'm irritating under.

• 52:28Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 52:29Drew Afualo?

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• 53:14Drew Afualo?

  The app is free to download and there are no seller fees, which makes it easy for me to list as many pieces as I want for no additional cost. Listing items on Vinted is quick and simple. Once an item sells, Vinted creates the prepaid shipping label for you. Clean out your closet and give your clothes a second life with Vinted. I know you guys have guests on and stuff. How do you guys like interviewing? I know you interviewed a lot too, because I saw a lot of your clips with InStyle, I believe.

• 53:39Speaker 02

  Oh, why?

• 53:40Drew Afualo?

  But like interviewing.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  I mean, like, I guess like traditional media, I would say, like, um, Hunter's like the vet and that. And I think like, digital first, like interviewing is something, like something that's like, oh, let's like have a conversation that will make sure like we hit on this trending thing and then talk about like a really quick something for social. It's like, I would say a bit more of like my expertise and then we blend right in the middle for, the kind of conversations we like to have, like not to make it too strict, but also like have some play and also get to the meat of a thing.

• 54:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 54:08Speaker 02

  But we don't have a guest. I would say we have like every other episode.

• 54:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:12Drew Afualo?

  That's how I am with my sister too.

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, usually it feels more like a conversation.

• 54:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I love that.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  And less of a, like an interview podcast. Because I, I've, I don't know, there's just, there's so many of those sometimes that I'm like,

• 54:23Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  I kind of don't need to hear someone like cosplay, I don't know, like 60 Minutes correspondent.

• 54:29Drew Afualo?

  I agree. I think the same thing. I was like, I just had Scott Evans on, who I love, and he was like, I was telling him, I really loved his interview style too, because it feels like a conversation as opposed to like just straight, like I'm just asking you questions.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:42Drew Afualo?

  That's why I was curious how you guys like doing, because I both, I, I know you had a lot of traditional training in that, and then I know you also did, like a lot of in-person, the InStyle stuff, I saw a lot.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:51Drew Afualo?

  Which I loved. But I love how you guys, like the way that you would interview is felt like very similar to me. I think it's also, it makes a lot of sense that we're the same age. I do not have ADHD, I don't think. I have OCD.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  That's common, that's common.

• 55:03Drew Afualo?

  A different kind of mental illness.

• 55:04Speaker 02

  A different prison.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  Different prison right next door.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  Sisters, not twins.

• 55:11Drew Afualo?

  My sister actually has ADHD and so does my mom.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 55:14Drew Afualo?

  So like, yeah, so they both have that and I have OCD. So I have that, the other fun little awful thing.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  We have a different kind of fun. Love, okay, cool.

• 55:22Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I just remembered too, earlier, we talked about, you wanted to talk about The Rock. Yes.

• 55:27Speaker 02

  That sounds like it was in my writer to be like, we have to talk.

• 55:31Speaker 04

  Okay, take it away.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  Because you didn't even look at me, you like looked at our producer, which is crazy.

• 55:36Drew Afualo?

  I was looking at the camera.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Okay, oh, okay, okay, okay. I was like, oh.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  You're like, so Peyton, go, like I have a speech to him.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  I think that's like kind of, um, never, I never feel more separate from Peyton when we talk about our taste in men. Truly, I think that's, exactly. No, no, no, that's really where we fall apart.

• 55:52Drew Afualo?

  That's how I feel when my sister talks about men too, that she finds attractive. I'm always like, yo, we are an ocean apart, you and I.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, what?

• 55:59Speaker 04

  And I won't see you on the other side.

• 56:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I can't even, I can't even see you from the fucking shore, bitch. I can't even see you from there, damn.

• 56:05Speaker 04

  I left the beach, I'm in my house. The door is locked, so yeah.

• 56:08Drew Afualo?

  I left the beach, I'm in my car, I'm headed home.

• 56:09Speaker 04

  I'm in the woods.

• 56:12Speaker 02

  I just like don't, I just think he is like sex. I think him and Vin Diesel are.

• 56:17Drew Afualo?

  Big bald guy lover?

• 56:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love a, like a, like a big man. I'm like, what the heck? Like Vin Diesel, his titties sit, it's crazy. Like, I'll send you a pic, it's a good one. And he's also really, like, I feel like they're also really emotional men.

• 56:31Drew Afualo?

  I do love big tits on a man.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 56:33Drew Afualo?

  I do love that. Do you like big tits on a man?

• 56:35Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 56:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I love big Hercules tits. Like, I need something. I hate when it's like, I made this joke once about some, who the fuck was it? Oh, it was a guy who, who was saying awful things about me. But I said like, his chest was so concave, if I knocked on it, his heart would shoot out his back, like, like really hard. And I was like, see, that shit's ugly to me. Just kidding. I'm not attracted to that personally, so I need, I need big meat. I like meat on the chest.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 57:00Drew Afualo?

  I see you.

• 57:01Speaker 02

  I don't know, I feel like it's funny, like the people like I date are normally like, um, twink coded, like,

• 57:06Drew Afualo?

  Right, gay.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:10Speaker 02

  But then when I'm like, oh my god, man, like what the heck?

• 57:15Speaker 02

  The one time I was like dabbling in like exercising my buy rights, I like dated, was trying to date this guy that like looked like Jesus Christ, the original, like, he was like, fine.

• 57:25Speaker 04

  And I'm like, if I can't connect with this, like then I don't think it's meant for me.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  Lupin?

• 57:30Speaker 04

  It's like, you're, yeah, you're the original source, like.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  You're like, you, you tell me.

• 57:34Speaker 04

  Am I gay?

• 57:37Speaker 02

  What are you picking up on? He's like, yes.

• 57:39Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say, I'm glad you brought it up.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 57:42Drew Afualo?

  I'm glad to know you love The Rock.

• 57:43Speaker 02

  I do so much. Moana's a perfect film.

• 57:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it is, I agree. And I'll tell, I'll tell him you said that.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  Please do, like, he's, he's, I've been getting him on.

• 57:54Speaker 04

  She's blushing, I hope you can.

• 57:55Speaker 02

  Like, he's a performer, he's a full-body performer, he's like really good.

• 57:59Drew Afualo?

  And he's funny as hell, honestly. He's funny and he's very nice. And I actually just recently met someone who was like a huge, huge fan of The Rock. And, um, I was talking to her about him a little bit. She was just like, I just like, I hate to ask, like, is he nice? And I was like, yeah, he's the nicest, like, he's so nice. And, um, I actually was letting her look at my phone because, and I'll let you look at it too, Peyton, because he sent me a bunch of voice notes, like through Instagram DMs when we were talking about him coming on the show. So he was, he almost exclusively spoke to me in voice notes. He like did not send me one text. It was all in voice notes. And the way he talks is like, it feels like he's talking to a crowd, but he was only talking to me.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 58:37Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I was letting her listen to the voice notes, that's how big of a bitch.

• 58:41Speaker 02

  I'm like sweating right now, in case you're wondering, is anyone picking up on that, like?

• 58:46Drew Afualo?

  That's, he's my Channing Tatum, he follows me on Instagram. But honestly, I low-key swindled that because when I filmed with him, we like made a funny TikTok and they were like, oh, we'd love, um, to collab it, like collab post it on Instagram. I'm like, oh, that'd be awesome. Unfortunately, he does have to follow me in order for that to happen, so. And then I said that about TikTok too, and it turns out he didn't have to follow me to do that, so I got that follow too. Finesse. Take that, bitch.

• 59:10Speaker 02

  For the record, like Channing Tatum, I like don't have a rapport. Actually, at the time, I made my girlfriend Photoshop like my face on Zoe Kravitz's head on that bike photo of them. And then I said like, Channing Tatum followed, and he said, LMAO. And that was it. So like, that's it.

• 59:24Drew Afualo?

  That is a rapport.

• 59:24Speaker 04

  But there's so much in an LMAO.

• 59:26Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying. And he did not have to say that. He did not have to LMAO anything.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  He could laugh me on, scene.

• 59:35Drew Afualo?

  Okay, to pivot, I do have some fun facts about you guys.

• 59:38Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 59:38Drew Afualo?

  About each of you. Um, you guys can let me know if they're fun. And if they're not fun, then I count it against Amanda and she will lose her job. So, no pressure. No pressure at all. Okay, so, uh, well, this first one says that you met in a film studies course at Emerson College, where you got into a beef over whether your teacher was hot.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  That is also true.

• 59:59Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  And there was a winning team.

• 1:00:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, for someone who loves men.

• 1:00:04Drew Afualo?

  You guys were just talking about disagreeing.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  Professor, um.

• 1:00:09Drew Afualo?

  So which one thought, which one of you thought that they were hot?

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  Guess.

• 1:00:14Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:00:16Drew Afualo?

  I feel like, maybe you thought they were hot and you thought they weren't. It was the opposite?

• 1:00:22Speaker 02

  Well, you can only guess if we, I feel like it would've been if we showed you a photo.

• 1:00:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. If I saw the photo, I probably would've been able to guess.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  A real straight girl's like, oh, a creative type.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  He knows a lot about movies.

• 1:00:34Drew Afualo?

  A lesbian's straight objectifying ugly.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  Oh, this isn't a good photo, you have to, no, you're straight. Straight girls love to be like, no, that's a bad one.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  Like, go to his tagged photos and you'll see what he really looks like.

• 1:00:49Drew Afualo?

  I swear he looks better, I swear.

• 1:00:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:52Speaker 02

  You have to get, you just have to get a vibe, you have to get it.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  I don't like men who post, so like you have to like go to his tag photos.

• 1:00:56Drew Afualo?

  I totally get that.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:58Drew Afualo?

  Or when they post too much of themselves, you're like, get a job.

• 1:01:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:04Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes when I see men do like, um, a day in the life or like blogs, I'm always like, that's not for you.

• 1:01:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:01:11Drew Afualo?

  Nobody wants to know what you're doing all day. I don't, I don't. But the most random woman who's like, she has maybe a hundred followers on Instagram reels. And then I see her on my reels and she's like, spend the day with me as a stay at home mom in like Tuscaloosa? I'm locked in, I'm gonna watch the whole thing.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  Have to watch it.

• 1:01:27Drew Afualo?

  As soon as it's a man, I'm like, get a job or go to war.

• 1:01:32Speaker 02

  Pay a bill.

• 1:01:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Chop a tree or something.

• 1:01:36Drew Afualo?

  What? Do something useful. Oh my god. Well, I'm glad to know that your guys' friendship was born in arguing. That's a beautiful thing.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  That would be great. We will never beef over a boy though. For many reasons.

• 1:01:51Drew Afualo?

  Okay, it says when you were in college, Hunter asked Peyton to start a fashion culture column for the school newspaper called Dick's Picks.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:59Drew Afualo?

  That's funny, I can't believe he got that name cleared.

• 1:02:01Speaker 04

  Well, it is my last name.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, legally, her last name is Dick. My dad really set me up for that. Success.

• 1:02:06Drew Afualo?

  Thanks a lot, dad. I remember the last dick pic I got from a guy was on Snapchat, I believe. Yeah, Snapchat, that was when it was like.

• 1:02:15Speaker 04

  Vintage.

• 1:02:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, vintage, big time, ancient. They're like cutting to, I'm in black and white to like Gen Z right now. And I remember I got it on there and it was a guy I was talking to, but we had kind of stopped. And then he just sent me that and I was like, but it was one of those like, it was like a full body, which is honestly jarring.

• 1:02:32Speaker 04

  Were feet in it?

• 1:02:34Drew Afualo?

  No, it was like quads up, completely nude.

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:02:38Drew Afualo?

  Right, quads up, because it was like you're in the dorms, you know, like sometimes your sink would be outside.

• 1:02:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:43Drew Afualo?

  So it was like the counter was kind of low.

• 1:02:44Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 1:02:45Drew Afualo?

  So it's like everything that he felt was necessary was in the picture, right? It was like knees up and it was kind of looking, I like joked that it, it looked like a before and after picture, like when you're losing weight. You're like, you know, you have to take a picture before, then you do like a stitch in it. That's what it looked like because he was kind of like standing like this.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 1:03:03Drew Afualo?

  But it looked like he had just gone out of the shower, so obviously the towel was like pushed down, like he just like opened it for me. Lucky me.

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:03:09Drew Afualo?

  And um, I remember I screenshot it and to save it and I forgot that they had added that they let you know when they screenshot it. And then he was like, lol, you, you screenshot it with a question mark? I didn't respond. Then he said, uh, what are you gonna do with that devil emoji? Didn't respond. Then he responded again, he goes, well, did you at least like it? Didn't respond.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  Wait, like Loki texts him back?

• 1:03:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  No, like it's getting me, no.

• 1:03:36Drew Afualo?

  You want to know something crazy about that guy though? Fast forward all these years later, when I'm doing this, I'm working an event that I, I will bleep, but it was [BLEEP]. I don't know if you guys are familiar. It's a, it was a big thing back in the day, but it was like a [BLEEP] based thing.

• 1:03:50Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:03:50Drew Afualo?

  Anyways, I go as a creator, um, and like at the time, the agency I was with at the time was sponsoring the event. So my face is blown up like huge and it's on walls in this hotel. And I'm walking around and my family's there, my team's there, my husband's there. And we're like walking, we're meeting up with my, um, my family in this like booth or lounge or whatever. And my sister calls me and she's like, dude, you're not gonna believe who's working security. And I was like, oh, who? She tells me it's this guy we, we used to work with back in the day. I'm like, oh my god, that's crazy, no way. Okay, I'm gonna see you in like five minutes. Walk up, there's two security guys. One of them's the one my sister told me about, the other one, that guy.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  Did he follow up?

• 1:04:31Drew Afualo?

  Huh?

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  Did he follow up?

• 1:04:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you know, he literally, well, obviously he recognized me and obviously he remembered me. So when I saw him, I was like, this is the worst day of my life. My, the only two people with me when I went through that security, my dad, my husband. Perfect, awesome. I go through and then I'm, he's like, hey. I was like, hey, how are you? Uh, oh my god, long time no see. And my husband's there and I'm like, this is my, we were boyfriend and girlfriend at the time. So I was like, oh, this is my boyfriend. Um, um, this is so and so. And I was like, we went to college together, like to my husband. And then that guy goes, yeah, we went to college together.

• 1:05:09Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:05:10Drew Afualo?

  You shut your fucking mouth. I was like, whoever the fuck you were with in college, she's dead, I killed her. So you be quiet. That's crazy.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:05:19Speaker 04

  Really gnarly.

• 1:05:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, mind you, he's working security, okay?

• 1:05:23Speaker 02

  So what else? He said, fuck it, why not?

• 1:05:26Speaker 04

  Put all out there, put on the table.

• 1:05:28Drew Afualo?

  No, we went to college together.

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  We did, bitch.

• 1:05:31Drew Afualo?

  I was like, we did go to college. Why are you putting that around like we didn't, we did?

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  I don't like a man who uses air quotes like that, like that's.

• 1:05:37Drew Afualo?

  Especially indirectly.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  Fingers down.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  Put your hands in your pockets.

• 1:05:42Drew Afualo?

  Don't you ever do that again.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:44Drew Afualo?

  Keep your hands where I can see them, actually.

• 1:05:47Speaker 04

  To age myself even more, my most memorable dick pic that I received.

• 1:05:51Drew Afualo?

  I would love to hear it.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  Of course I'm prompted, was, um, I, maybe I was in like ninth or 10th grade and this boy was like, no, I have a really huge dick. I'm like, okay. Like I, I'm trying to play games with my friend Lauren and then he sends a photo of his completely hard dick next to what? A Tivo remote for scale.

• 1:06:09Drew Afualo?

  Tivo remote's pretty, pretty big. I was like.

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  You're right.

• 1:06:14Drew Afualo?

  I mean, I said, T like.

• 1:06:18Speaker 02

  It was big. I mean, nothing ever happened after that.

• 1:06:20Drew Afualo?

  You sent him the baddie chain picture? Come and get this, come and get this, queen.

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  Come collect. I was like, this is not for me for a few reasons, but good work.

• 1:06:29Drew Afualo?

  Hey.

• 1:06:29Speaker 02

  It was crazy.

• 1:06:30Drew Afualo?

  Good work.

• 1:06:31Speaker 04

  It was really impressive, actually.

• 1:06:35Drew Afualo?

  What about you, Hunter? Your most memorable dick pic?

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  Um.

• 1:06:38Drew Afualo?

  Would you like to share?

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

  Okay, something has happened in the ether in the last two weeks. I've gotten more DM slides, more dick pics than ever before in my life.

• 1:06:47Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:06:48Speaker 04

  And I don't know what it is.

• 1:06:49Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy, spiritually I sensed it, that's why it came up.

• 1:06:52Speaker 04

  Like that, I promise you, it's so weird. In the last two weeks. Yes, so many men have crawled out of the, like so many.

• 1:06:59Speaker 02

  Crawled out of.

• 1:07:00Speaker 04

  Crawled out of the woodwork.

• 1:07:01Drew Afualo?

  Hell.

• 1:07:01Speaker 04

  No, it's like, from like out of like the, like the distant past. I'm getting so many more like, hey, like whatever, like, hey, like just circling back, like following up, like.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  Like, you good? Like, do, should we go out again? And I'm like, look at the last 10 messages that are unresponded.

• 1:07:18Drew Afualo?

  No, we shouldn't.

• 1:07:19Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:07:20Drew Afualo?

  Based off the history of this messaging, no.

• 1:07:22Speaker 04

  God.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  They're like, and here's a dick, just in case.

• 1:07:25Drew Afualo?

  And in case you need to comment, I got one of these.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  Something to consider.

• 1:07:30Drew Afualo?

  Another one, let's see, Peyton, you worked at Urban Outfitters in college.

• 1:07:35Speaker 04

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:07:36Drew Afualo?

  And how was that gig?

• 1:07:38Speaker 04

  How long do you have?

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  Honestly, most formative was like, I worked at, I was a retail diva.

• 1:07:44Speaker 04

  I was, I was working, okay? I did Urban Outfitters first, then Sada. And then I worked at All Saints as well, yeah.

• 1:07:52Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 1:07:53Speaker 04

  Couldn't afford anything up in that store, but it was fun to work there.

• 1:07:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, All Saints, my sister and I call that the redacted [BLEEP] store.

• 1:07:59Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 1:08:00Drew Afualo?

  Because that's the only people who, that's what they, all the outfits look like.

• 1:08:03Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Like all Pirates of the Caribbean like core, but like.

• 1:08:09Speaker 04

  A lot of people.

• 1:08:10Speaker 02

  Not too much. Yeah, I know, I was like, we literally just watched that the other day, like what is wrong?

• 1:08:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I do love those movies.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Dead Man's Chest, anyone? Yeah.

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  We literally like the other night, like took the edge off, like put on Pirates of the Caribbean.

• 1:08:23Speaker 04

  It was like a long night.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  Guess we gotta put on Pirates.

• 1:08:26Drew Afualo?

  Smoke a cigarette, watch Pirates. Okay, last one's about Hunter. It says you used to be a nanny and once got in trouble because you were reading instead of playing Dance Dance Revolution with the kids.

• 1:08:36Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah, that's a true story. That was the worst job of my life. And, and actually, um, that woman, the mother, like she and my mom used to work together. And my mom brought her up recently and was like, do you ever, do you know what, like, what, like where she is now? I'm like, no, I don't talk to those girls anymore.

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  How old would they be? Like, um, uh, or late teens?

• 1:08:56Speaker 04

  I guess I was 17, they were 12.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  Oh, you guys are kind of close in age. To me, that's a peer.

• 1:09:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Queening out girls.

• 1:09:05Speaker 04

  They wanted to play hide and seek all day. I was like, Loki, like, you're all too old, like, we're too old for this.

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  I truly didn't get it. I was like, why? Why?

• 1:09:16Drew Afualo?

  You got in trouble for reading?

• 1:09:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, because I was, I think I was in the right, okay? So it's summertime, they want to play.

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• 1:11:31Speaker 04

  Video games, whatever. They had a really stinky dog. And I was modeling good behavior and reading my book all day.

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:38Speaker 04

  I didn't see any problem.

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  That's how I learned as a child, from modeling good behavior. I'm an only child, if you couldn't tell.

• 1:11:48Speaker 02

  It's like, it is coming out. And it's all over you.

• 1:11:51Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, having an only child but an only daughter is so chic.

• 1:11:55Speaker 04

  It really is.

• 1:11:56Drew Afualo?

  I love that. Your parents are so teat for that.

• 1:11:59Speaker 04

  How many siblings do you have?

• 1:12:00Drew Afualo?

  I have two. Yeah, I have an older sister and a younger brother.

• 1:12:03Speaker 04

  I think having a sister is so beautiful.

• 1:12:05Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:12:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:12:06Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:12:07Speaker 02

  I know. I want to physically fight one so badly. Like, we were just talking about the Kardashians, how they like throw hands. I'm like, that's beautiful.

• 1:12:13Speaker 04

  I literally love it. No, I like watched Supercut on YouTube Shorts.

• 1:12:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that one where they really went after each other, like him and Kourtney.

• 1:12:21Speaker 04

  The face in the wall.

• 1:12:22Drew Afualo?

  That was crazy.

• 1:12:23Speaker 04

  Cinema to me.

• 1:12:24Speaker 02

  But my brother and I, I have an older brother, a year and a half older. And we were, when I realized I was bottom-heavy, I was like, oh, I've been wasting time throwing hands. I'm gonna throw feet. And so I started kicking. And that got me kind of far. And I was like, oh, I loved, I was always really rough as a kid, so I liked having an older brother.

• 1:12:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:39Speaker 02

  But I was, I was, I was tussling. But I kind of wish I had a sister, maybe to soften me up a little at some point.

• 1:12:47Drew Afualo?

  I guess. Well, I don't know. I have one too. And it didn't really do shit for me in terms of stopping.

• 1:12:52Speaker 02

  She was a Lexi Bean. I got it.

• 1:12:56Drew Afualo?

  Me and my sister are two years apart. Like, we're two years apart in age, but we were only a year apart in school because of, like, when my sister was born, she's a Sagittarius, so she was in December. So she had to start late. And then I couldn't wait to go to school. I like begged my mom to go to school. I'm like, what do you mean she gets to go and I don't? And then my sister was, felt like she was being taken to prison. She was acting like a POW every time she had to go to school, because she had to be away from my mom. So we were like opposites. I was like, take me there, take me there, take me there, every time I saw her going to school. Because I love school. But we, we never really fought like that. Like, sometimes I think, I'm like, is that white girl shit? Like, I don't know. Like, the, like, the actual fighting, only because my mom would never.

• 1:13:34Speaker 04

  Close, close hand, never that.

• 1:13:35Drew Afualo?

  Like, just the actual fighting, like, swinging at each other kind of thing. Like, we, we would like, I guess, push sometimes, but we would really mostly just yell at each other if we did fight. And we grew up really close in age. Like, we started really chafing against each other when my sister started driving in high school. Because then we were together all the fucking time. Like, we, we went to school together, we played sports together, we were on the same teams together. Like, the only thing that we weren't together in was class, like physically. And so, but we were always in the goddamn car together. That was like one of those times where it was like, I think I fucking hate you. But then after a while, I was like, no, I don't. You're my best friend in the whole world.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  Did having a sister teach you how to bark back, though? Like, did you learn, like, how to, because you're so quick. And I feel like part of that, like, people I know with sisters, really know how to, how to, how to cut.

• 1:14:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I would say, yeah, with words. Yeah, definitely. But my mom's kind of like that, too. So I kind of got it from her. My sister is just like my dad. Like, my dad is physically very large. My dad's a 6'6", 6'7". My mom's 5'3". But my, my mom is like all fire, like, all fire, all everything. My dad is so nervous. My dad's the most nervous man who's ever lived. And he gave that wonderful trait to my sister. Like, the most nervous people, like, I always joke about it. I took my dad to a Clippers game, because my dad loves the NBA. And I worked with the NBA, and they're lovely. And we like, they invited me to a Clippers game, and it was like a courtside thing. And I was like, oh, I'd love to take you. My dad was like, yeah, that'd be great. And then we go together, and my

• 1:15:05Drew Afualo?

  dad gets in the car. My dad's like anxious as fuck. Like, he's like, like, sitting in the car, I'm like, you all right? And then he's like, can you just tell me, like, how many pictures they're gonna take of me? Like, just so I know when I'm prepared. And I go, didn't nobody come to see you, Otis?

• 1:15:21Drew Afualo?

  I was like, nobody said I take a picture of you, bitch.

• 1:15:24Speaker 04

  The temptations into this is crazy.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:15:30Speaker 04

  Really good line reading, by the way. You fell into character in quick. That was good.

• 1:15:35Drew Afualo?

  I literally told my dad, I was like, nobody wants a picture of your big ass. They're gonna take pictures of me. And then my dad was like, oh, thank God. Oh, my God, I was so worried I was gonna.

• 1:15:43Speaker 02

  Tell your dad, zero photo. Sorry.

• 1:15:46Drew Afualo?

  And then we get there, and they're taking some pictures of me, like, on the court and stuff. And I asked my dad, I'm like, hey, can you film or take pictures of me while I'm doing this? My dad goes, yeah. He's on the court with me. I go, okay. And then I go, and I'm taking all these pictures. I go and I look at my phone. There is one singular photo on there that he took from 100 yards away. I don't even know how he got that far. And it wasn't on point five. Yeah, I was like, where the fuck did you go? Like, he was like, where did you go in the stands to take this? He goes, well, you told me to take picture. I said, I didn't say take a pic. Forget it.

• 1:16:19Speaker 04

  It's like, how do you even explain that?

• 1:16:20Drew Afualo?

  I was like, daddy, forget it. Forget it. Forget it.

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  So I would die for him.

• 1:16:26Drew Afualo?

  I literally love him. So I posted that picture that he took of me from a great distance for Father's Day last year. And I was like, like, how did you even get over there, bro? Like, what were you doing? And also, he got the most attention ever when we were there. Like, taking my dad there in a tank top was a mistake. Every man within a five-mile radius, yo, you're fucking huge, bro. Oh, my God, you played in the NFL?

• 1:16:49Speaker 04

  Men are so gay. I love that.

• 1:16:51Drew Afualo?

  They are.

• 1:16:52Speaker 04

  You're big, man. What's up with that?

• 1:16:54Drew Afualo?

  They're so homoerotic. Yeah, like, sometimes when me and my husband go places, like, on our honeymoon, for example, we were at this really nice resort in Lanai. And when we were staying there, sometimes people, like, they wonder what we do for a living, because we look young. And so they're like, you guys afford this? Like, that's, that's what I think the real question is. But they always just kind of assume that my husband is like a football player or something. And I'm just his bitch wife. That's just there. And I was like, little do you know, I'm the football player.

• 1:17:23Speaker 04

  I used to lay pipe.

• 1:17:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. You don't even know. You don't even know.

• 1:17:26Speaker 04

  They heard about me.

• 1:17:26Drew Afualo?

  Don't get me started. It's gonna be Peyton about The Rock.

• 1:17:34Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so that is all the fun facts I have. How were they? Were they pretty fun?

• 1:17:38Speaker 04

  They were fun.

• 1:17:39Drew Afualo?

  They were pretty fun. Not too bad.

• 1:17:40Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:17:41Drew Afualo?

  You guys are open books, so it's hard to find some good stuff.

• 1:17:43Speaker 04

  I know. Yeah.

• 1:17:47Speaker 02

  Maybe we should start being quiet.

• 1:17:50Drew Afualo?

  I feel the same way. But I loved, I, first of all, I really love that you guys were like, first of all, college girls. Me too. I'm so glad this did not happen to me when I was actively going to college.

• 1:18:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:01Drew Afualo?

  But also that you guys are like, you really were in the career field before you pivoted, and you guys just believed in yourselves. Also, you worked in media and entertainment beforehand. So I'm really curious if you guys have any advice for anyone that maybe is currently in journalism, or any sort of, like, film kind of major, or maybe they're working in that field, and they would love to kind of pivot like you guys did? Do you guys have any advice for them?

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  I have something.

• 1:18:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  I feel like there's a really good, or I, when I reflect on, like, what success has like, looked like for me, for us, I feel like there's a really nice medley of like, trusting my gut, take your probiotics, and like, building community around the thing that you want, and building like, the kind of community, like, don't be afraid of asking for help. Don't be afraid of like, naming your wants and desires and needs. And I don't think any of my success was so low. I think everything that I got to like, make or do, and even right now, I think there's so much more to, to create, like, has come from like, the collective and like, community care. And I feel like that's also like our podcast. You know what I mean? Like, I could not do this without her. Like, I'd just be like,

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  another thing I'm gonna get canceled for. I need someone to be like, shh, shh. But seriously, I think, like, you know, building community around the thing that you care about is like, probably like, the most important thing to me.

• 1:19:22Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely. I love it.

• 1:19:23Speaker 04

  And I think also, like, developing an expertise in something, like, really knowing about the thing that you're passionate about. Like, I, sometimes it's sunny, like, we, you know, are just like, da-da-da-da-da, all the time. But like, you know so much about, like, so many things. And I feel like, that is something that I really like about. Like, if we'd had no opinions, we didn't know anything, it'd be boring.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, hyper fixate.

• 1:19:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. Have really deep niche obsessions, hyper fixate, get really obsessive about something. And then also, I think you have just be willing to let your career, people will show up with like, branding and stuff. And I'm like, actually, that stuff will be revealed to you. Like, you'll, you'll, you'll feel, you'll learn what your niche is, because you're just like, making so many things. And like, people will tell you what they know you for.

• 1:20:07Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 1:20:08Speaker 04

  And so I think people like, try to reverse engineer that too much.

• 1:20:11Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And I, I think too, to that same point, it's like authenticity, right?

• 1:20:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:15Drew Afualo?

  As corny, and as much as people hate to hear it, like, when you give advice about, like, what, you know, just be yourself, like, on camera. It's fucking true. Like, there's a lot of copy paste thing that happens now, especially with TikTok. Like, people see people like, oh, vlogs in the morning work, I'm gonna copy that exact thing. But it's like, if you are just so, everyone is so singular and unique, that if you offer your own, like, you have to have a point of view, I think.

• 1:20:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:39Drew Afualo?

  But like, if, like, the two of you, if you're so yourself, it will like, happen. Like, I love how you described it. It reveals itself to you.

• 1:20:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:20:46Drew Afualo?

  Like, what that is and how it works. Also, the two of you are smart as fuck, and I love that. It's obvious to me.

• 1:20:51Speaker 04

  Wait, were you, you liked school a lot, you said?

• 1:20:53Drew Afualo?

  I loved school.

• 1:20:53Speaker 04

  Were you good at math?

• 1:20:55Drew Afualo?

  I was okay in math. I wasn't, it wasn't my strongest subject. My strongest ones were writing.

• 1:20:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, writing and reading.

• 1:21:00Speaker 02

  I've never met a beautiful woman who is, who was good at math. And tell her, like, she literally did a reveal on our podcast that she was really good at math. Well, I, the thing I like is, I like being privately, like, really smart. Cause I think I'm very publicly, like, I'm emotionally really, out of the friends I have, like, I feel like I'm really emotionally, like, intuitive, but I think, like, it's kind of fun to be like, oh wait, what? Yeah. And then secretly being like, no, because actually I can read you to fill for it if I want to. But I think that, like, you know, I don't know, I, I like how, like, multi hyphenate we are in the ways that we express ourselves. Like, we can get real serious about things and we can also play all day and, um, you know, porque no los dos?

• 1:21:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  And she speaks Spanish, oh my god. I know three phrases.

• 1:21:41Drew Afualo?

  This woman do.

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  I know three phrases. Yeah, don't worry. Don't worry.

• 1:21:45Drew Afualo?

  I joke about that a lot too, where I, I know a fuck ton about things that you would never guess.

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:51Drew Afualo?

  I know a lot about a bunch of bullshit. Like, I think it's just, I also attribute that to having a photographic memory. I do have one, so like, I can, it's funny, my sister's joked before where she goes, I, you know a lot about a ton of random things and I don't know how that's possible, cause I know you don't read. That's what she always says. I'm like, yeah, well, first of all, you don't know that.

• 1:22:11Speaker 02

  I'm literate, by the way.

• 1:22:14Drew Afualo?

  But I think it's cause I do love, I love to know things. And part of that, I think, is because I'm a know it all. But, and that's the Virgo in me.

• 1:22:20Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:22:21Drew Afualo?

  More than anything. But I just love to know things and I love bringing it out. Like you said, like, I love whipping it out.

• 1:22:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, why not?

• 1:22:27Drew Afualo?

  I'm an intellect flasher. You know what I mean?

• 1:22:30Speaker 02

  Well, cause you know, you know when it's showy, when people are coming in, trying to like, like, I, the thing I hate most in person is when they try to make other people feel dumb.

• 1:22:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too.

• 1:22:37Speaker 02

  And I think a lot of people on the internet, like, try to lead with that. Like, try to make people feel smaller dumb instead of, like,

• 1:22:42Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  kicking and having conversations instead.

• 1:22:45Drew Afualo?

  Well, also if you're fun and silly and a woman, and a woman of color, um, they automatically assume you're fucking dumb.

• 1:22:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:52Drew Afualo?

  So that's why a lot of the content I've made, I'm like pee pee poo poo out my butt. But obviously, if you guys listen to what the fuck I say, there is a lot that is underneath it.

• 1:23:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:01Drew Afualo?

  But honestly, I feel like it's like pillin', like, cheese for a dog.

• 1:23:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:05Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, if, okay, well, if you're gonna learn, learn this way. That's a good thing. Some people learn through humor, it's okay. Don't stop with me, though. First me, then Roxanne Gay.

• 1:23:17Speaker 02

  The gateway drug.

• 1:23:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, there you go. It's one, one plus one equals two, it happens. Well, thank you both so much for coming on the show.

• 1:23:23Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:23:23Drew Afualo?

  I fucking adore y'all. Y'all are who? We have to go get drinks with Tefi.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  Oh, please.

• 1:23:28Drew Afualo?

  Dinner and drinks. And then she'll be the Tasmanian devil that runs around all of us.

• 1:23:32Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:23:33Drew Afualo?

  So nobody believes me that she's nuts. I tell people all the time, she's nuts. Like, when you meet her in person, she's a whirlwind. It's true. People, I always joke, I'm like, Tefi, who they think she is in real life based off her online persona is who I am in real life. And who they think I am in real life is who she is in real life.

• 1:23:50Speaker 02

  Oh. I, I also didn't know you guys were so close. Like, you're, I mean, you keep this cut, whatever. Like, your friend, it's hard to, you never know with friendships online, like, what they, like, mean. Yeah, and it, the way she talks about you is really, really, like, emphatic and beautiful.

• 1:24:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I do love her and I, I would hope we're close. She was in my wedding.

• 1:24:08Speaker 02

  She was like, and fuck that bitch.

• 1:24:11Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, she spent Christmas with my family one year, by herself. She was the loudest, most boisterous person there.

• 1:24:18Speaker 02

  Well, Miami, yeah.

• 1:24:19Drew Afualo?

  And the funniest thing she did when she was having Christmas at my house, she put on every single gift she was given, cause she wasn't expecting to get gifts, but my family's big on gifts. So we all got her stuff and she put on every single thing that day. So she had, like, two hats on and a pair of socks and a scarf. And she was like, this is the best Christmas of my life.

• 1:24:37Drew Afualo?

  And she showered about seven times a day at my house, but that's, that's a whole nother thing. She showers too many times. Anyways, I fucking love y'all. I think you guys are amazing and incredible and so important to the space. And thank you so much for coming on the show.

• 1:24:49Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:24:50Drew Afualo?

  I adore you both. I can't wait to go on your show.

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:24:53Drew Afualo?

  They did, they did ask me. That's not me inviting myself, they did ask me. So I will.

• 1:24:56Speaker 02

  We'll hit Quality Italian right after.

• 1:24:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, well, hey, oh god, go to Quality Italian. Nobody listens to me. That restaurant is unbelievable. Quality Italian, if you ever wanna sponsor the podcast, let me know. Then we can film an episode there.

• 1:25:06Speaker 02

  They're like, totally, totally, I'm done.

• 1:25:08Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna force you guys to go to Midtown for me and Quality Italian.

• 1:25:11Speaker 02

  We'll do it, we'll do it. I already go for Olive Garden.

• 1:25:13Drew Afualo?

  Okay, period. See, well, and Quality Italian is better. It's better. Level up.

• 1:25:18Speaker 02

  Not in my book.

• 1:25:19Drew Afualo?

  Telling you.

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  Quality Italian sounds like the off brand version of Olive Garden.

• 1:25:23Drew Afualo?

  I'm telling you, it's quality Italian. I'm telling you, it is. The name is fitting.

• 1:25:27Speaker 02

  We'll find out. We'll fuck around and find out.

• 1:25:29Drew Afualo?

  Perfect. Well, thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the Comments Section Show. Thank you so much to Hunter and Peyton for joining us. For those people who don't know, where can everyone find you?

• 1:25:39Speaker 02

  Um, you can follow us at, at Let Me Say This Pod on TikTok and. And Instagram. And Instagram. Why not both? And at Hunter H, I'll plug your Instagram. And at Peyton Dex, if you're feeling crazy.

• 1:25:50Drew Afualo?

  Easy peasy. And you'll see them on the screen, obviously. So make sure y'all follow Hunter and Peyton. They're amazing and hilarious and so smart. You know how I feel about smart women. I fucking love them. But thank you all so much for joining us on this episode of the Comments Section. Don't forget, new episodes drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video is for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, YouTube. Thank you so much to my amazing guests, Hunter and Peyton. Thank you so much to all of you and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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