GRACE REITER IS EXPERIENCING WHIMSY | Episode 240

Grace Reiter joins Drew on the show this week!! Drew and Grace talk about the birth of her iconic Hunger Games remake video, wearing neon green platform Crocs to a movie premiere, vaginas falling asleep, allowing yourself to have a celebrity crush, getting nervous about first dates, and so much more. Follow Grace on IG: https://www.instagram.com/gracereiter1/?hl=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:05Speaker 02

  Do you know where your vagina falls asleep?

• 1:07Drew Afualo?

  You're talking about it being choked to death?

• 1:09Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 1:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I see. It's like, go to sleep, go to sleep.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was choked. I was getting choked and I couldn't.

• 1:14Drew Afualo?

  You to your own pussy, go to sleep, go to sleep.

• 1:16Speaker 02

  I was like, shh, girl.

• 1:19Speaker 02

  Your time will come.

• 1:19Drew Afualo?

  Down, girl.

• 1:20Speaker 02

  I'm down, girl.

• 1:28Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the comment section show starring me, your favorite, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the Katniss Everdeen herself, Grace Ryder.

• 1:43Speaker 02

  Penum, today, well, no, that's capital. I'm here to, you know.

• 1:48Drew Afualo?

  Take down the capital.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Spew propaganda. I'm actually here to take down the capital. I am the revolution. That was close. That's like when she had that, that, oh, my God, what did she say?

• 1:57Drew Afualo?

  Freudian slip?

• 1:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, with the fascism at the thing.

• 2:00Drew Afualo?

  I saw that.

• 2:02Speaker 02

  She was like, you proved that fascism is, oh, I mean, sorry, fashion. Just like, it's starting, revolution's beginning. Here we go.

• 2:12Drew Afualo?

  I'm so happy to have you.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Thank you, I'm so excited to be here.

• 2:15Drew Afualo?

  I know, we were just giggling and king like we had nothing to do. We were just sitting here talking like we didn't know that the cameras were supposed to be rolling at that point.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, and like we were planning our Universal trip and Disneyland trip.

• 2:24Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  And, yeah, unfortunately, I can't go.

• 2:26Drew Afualo?

  Grace was telling me all the amazing things she's gonna do while she's here in L.A. And then she goes, and get this, I don't have time to go to Universal, so what's the fucking point?

• 2:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess when you're, you know, you're so blessed and busy. I'm so up at the moment. I have no time to drop down on a ride.

• 2:41Drew Afualo?

  What you're sacrificing when you make it to the top.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, when you make it to the top, it's like, oh, my God, all of my friends are busy and they can't ride a ride with me.

• 2:50Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so, yeah, well, I guess I get why celebs.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  I'll carve out the time for that. I'll be like, put it in the calendar.

• 2:56Drew Afualo?

  For, in the Google Cal.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  In the Google Cal, for some universal time. I'll figure it out, there might be some time. Cause what did we said once?

• 3:03Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna manifest that for you, cause I love that you take rides that seriously. I fuck with that.

• 3:08Speaker 02

  Well, I realized recently, I was like, I actually don't know if I've been on a roller coaster this year. And I was like, I feel like that's why there's like a funk. I feel like that's why I'm a little off.

• 3:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you need to.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  Where I'm like.

• 3:18Drew Afualo?

  You need to reset your chakras.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like.

• 3:20Drew Afualo?

  Get on a ride.

• 3:21Speaker 02

  I gotta do like, my dad, we would call it like the belly belly. Where like you'd get a little like, you'd be like, oh, when you're like, when you hit the drop, so. I'm like, I need to like, I need gravity to like, I need to be caught.

• 3:33Drew Afualo?

  That creativity.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Yes, essentially, yeah.

• 3:36Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm gonna manifest that for you.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Thank you, I appreciate that, I appreciate that.

• 3:39Drew Afualo?

  I think it's gonna be, I think it's gonna be something that will help kickstart an even better idea than your Hunger Games spoof. Cause I was telling you how much I loved your Hunger Games spoof.

• 3:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

• 3:50Drew Afualo?

  Amazing, that is actually more recent, though, I wanna rewind a little bit further back. Talking about comedy in general, like you getting into entertaining, like where did it kinda start for you in terms of like, I wanna be hilarious for a living, so where do I do that? Where do I make that happen?

• 4:04Speaker 02

  I mean, I was like, I wanna be a YouTuber. I was, I mean, I wanted to be on the Disney Channel, but I was like, okay, that's not gonna happen. I was like, let's move on. So, YouTuber first, and I guess just like making videos. And then I just started posting online and then I did like a Harry Styles Wattpad fanfiction that like blew up. And it was right at that sweet little pocket of TikTok where it was like, everyone was, it was like, it was like January 2019, it was like pre-COVID. Or maybe that one was around COVID time where everyone was like flocking in. And I did this Harry Styles fanfiction parody. And like, it was back then when you could like get a million likes and then also get a million followers. Where it was like, it was like, yeah, it was like a million likes equal to a million followers.

• 4:47Speaker 02

  Now it's like you could get 20 million views or 20 million likes on a video and they'll be like, blocked. I actually don't even wanna see you again.

• 4:54Drew Afualo?

  No, for real. So it's like. I appreciate if I never saw you on my.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, inflation, it's inflation, it's the digital inflation.

• 4:59Drew Afualo?

  It's hit us all.

• 5:00Speaker 02

  It's hit us, it's hit us all. My numbers just are not polling the way they used to, and I'm like, okay, well, it's time to do something else.

• 5:07Drew Afualo?

  You know what else? And then that's where, is that where your inspiration for the Heather Baves was born?

• 5:12Speaker 02

  I was like, views are down, please. I was like, come back, come back, please. It was, um, it was, I mean, I'd always wanted to do that and it was going to be like, honestly, the initial idea was like, we were never gonna film it. I was like, should we just go out and like play pretend in the woods that were like Hunger Games? And then I was like, well, we should film this, so I was like, this is just strange if we're not.

• 5:34Drew Afualo?

  Otherwise, it's weird.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, otherwise, it's just we're LARPing. And then we've crossed, we've crossed into a different territory. No shame to the LARPers, would love to do that sometime.

• 5:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  But, um, yeah, and then my friend Ryan was like, actually, you should just do that for real. And I was like, oh, yeah. So, we just did it for my 24th birthday and then just rented Airbnb.

• 5:54Drew Afualo?

  That's honestly a great, a great gift to get, you're like, my gift.

• 5:57Speaker 02

  Free labor.

• 5:58Drew Afualo?

  Your gift to me, yeah, it's a 12-hour shoot day.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  Oh, and it was. And it was, that's why, that's why I felt like this year when I filmed Twilight, I like cried afterwards, cause I was like, I'm so sorry I made you guys do that. It was so long, it was so hard. I was like, why did we do this? And, yeah, so now, actually, now it might be getting to the point where like the union might be getting on me. And I'm like, I'm like.

• 6:22Drew Afualo?

  SAG's coming after you.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm like, okay, they're all volunteers, they want to, they like it.

• 6:28Drew Afualo?

  This was my birthday game.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  I'm like, it's a present. It's a present, SAG, please, it's digital content, there's no laws there.

• 6:37Drew Afualo?

  Did you always wanna be in entertainment? Like, did you know when you were younger?

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:41Drew Afualo?

  I feel like I could tell that about you.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, Maddie always knew, she always knew who she wanted to be when she was older. Yeah, I mean.

• 6:47Drew Afualo?

  Who were like some of your idols growing up when you were watching?

• 6:50Speaker 02

  Oh, Jack Black, love Nacho Libre.

• 6:53Drew Afualo?

  I love Jack Black. Yeah, School of Rock is one of my family's favorite movies, that's one of my favorite movies of all time. It's just, his whole discography is perfect to me.

• 7:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 7:02Drew Afualo?

  Nacho Libre is so funny that no one cares that he was playing a Mexican man. And I find that very interesting.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  Right?

• 7:08Drew Afualo?

  Let's dig into it.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  What a different time.

• 7:10Drew Afualo?

  No one, even now, though, like even now, they'll pull it up now and they're like, God, this guy's hilarious.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:16Drew Afualo?

  There's no sense of like, hey, this was kinda strange that he did this, cause it was, but it was that funny. Like, it was that funny and that good that people were like, and you know what? Art is art.

• 7:27Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, yeah, is it cause he was just like so committed to it?

• 7:30Drew Afualo?

  Maybe.

• 7:30Speaker 02

  Or like, but yeah.

• 7:31Drew Afualo?

  And maybe it's because none of it was based in like necessarily stereotypes, it's just like, that was his life at the time.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  I just think the accent he was doing.

• 7:39Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Well, that would be the only thing.

• 7:40Drew Afualo?

  That's the only, that's my point.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Everyone's like, that's great.

• 7:44Drew Afualo?

  Talk about a LARPer, talk about a LARPer.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 7:45Drew Afualo?

  You wanna talk about LARPing?

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Talk about LARPing. He did it. I mean, I think about that scene where he like squeezes his butt cheeks a lot. We see like Ramses is not dancing at the party a lot, me and my family, I love Anchorman, that was like a big one I watched a billion times.

• 7:58Drew Afualo?

  I was just telling my husband the other day that they don't make comedies like that anymore. You probably can't anymore now, but like, there was, I just mean the absurdity ones. Like Anchorman was so absurd, Step Brothers is so absurd, but it was just like unbelievably funny.

• 8:16Speaker 02

  I know.

• 8:16Drew Afualo?

  It's just like, because of the absurdity of it, I guess.

• 8:19Speaker 02

  I know, I'm hoping like, I don't know, I'm hoping like the obsession wave makes people wanna like, I know, because, I mean, he came from comedy. I'm like, okay, cause, I don't know, like indie horror movies can kinda do that, but I'm like.

• 8:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  Indie comedy movies, I feel like anytime you're trying to make a comedy movie, they're like, why would people wanna watch this?

• 8:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  It's like, okay, yeah.

• 8:40Drew Afualo?

  Then I guess it's up to you.

• 8:41Speaker 02

  Or like a Pitch Perfect.

• 8:42Drew Afualo?

  It's up to you.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  I know, okay, I'll try my best.

• 8:44Drew Afualo?

  Pitch Perfect, I was just telling someone, when I saw Pitch Perfect, I saw it in theaters, I was laughing my fucking ass off. It was the funniest thing I had ever seen at the time.

• 8:54Speaker 02

  It's incredible.

• 8:54Drew Afualo?

  It's so good.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  I'm like, oh, will we ever get anything? I'm like, nothing compares to it, like recently, I'm trying to think of like, I literally can't even think of a comedy movie that's come out.

• 9:03Drew Afualo?

  Everyone I can think of is older, so like, I talk a lot about the movie The Heat with Melissa McCarthy and Sandra Bullock.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh, I don't think I've seen that. What the hell, Melissa McCarthy, how have I not seen that? Oh, The Heat, where they're spies?

• 9:14Drew Afualo?

  They're cops, like they're cops, it's like a muddy cop thing.

• 9:18Speaker 02

  Okay, I need to watch it.

• 9:19Drew Afualo?

  You have to go watch it, it holds up to this day. I literally, if people come to stay at my house, I'm like, guess what you're watching tonight? This fucking movie.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  And we're putting the heat on.

• 9:27Drew Afualo?

  I'm educating everyone.

• 9:28Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 9:29Drew Afualo?

  And even Melissa McCarthy's whole discography, like Tammy, I loved Tammy.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  Okay, I don't remember Tammy too much, but I remember Identity Theft.

• 9:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  That one was my favorite. I love that. Shout out to Melissa, girl, come back.

• 9:43Drew Afualo?

  No, period, literally.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  Girl, come back and save us.

• 9:45Drew Afualo?

  Or we can just do it.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 9:47Drew Afualo?

  Let's set it up for us.

• 9:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, we actually, yeah.

• 9:50Drew Afualo?

  New wave. I think if anyone could bring back that kind of comedy, it's you.

• 9:54Speaker 02

  Really?

• 9:54Drew Afualo?

  Like, I really think so, in terms of movie, like, hell, yeah, I think you could.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  Well, everyone, everyone always asks me, what's my dream?

• 10:03Drew Afualo?

  I would love, no, I was gonna, I would ask you what your dream was anyways.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Well, they ask like, what's your dream? And I feel like I remember watching Grown Ups and being like, well, that's the dream. I was like, I just wanna make a movie with my friends.

• 10:13Drew Afualo?

  You're so fucking real.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Have some excuse to be like, well, let's just rent this really nice house and like film some funny bits. And then all my best friends are gonna be in it.

• 10:23Drew Afualo?

  You're so me.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  So I'm like.

• 10:24Drew Afualo?

  Feel the same way.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  And that's what The Hunger Games was, and that's what they all are. And now I'm like, okay, so.

• 10:29Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying, you've done it.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:31Drew Afualo?

  You've lived it.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  I'm like, it's happening.

• 10:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like even like a movie like Couples Retreat, that's another one that's so good, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, another one that's so good. Like those kinds of hilarious movies, like they're so absurd in their humor sometimes, but it's like, the plot line is very normal. But what makes it so unbelievably funny is the absurdity of their humor. Like, I even like Paul Rudd's character in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, he plays like the surf instructor.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  I don't know if I've actually seen that one.

• 10:57Drew Afualo?

  That one's a great one.

• 10:58Speaker 02

  I was thinking of a different one.

• 10:59Drew Afualo?

  Judd Apatow, he has, uh, Paul Rudd plays like a small character, but they're in Hawaii and he's going there to forget about an ex. And he's like his surf instructor, but he's like, his name's like Kyle, but he's a white guy who moved to Hawaii, so he's, he acts like a surfer.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:15Drew Afualo?

  And then he's like, you could call me Kunu, and it's not a real name, like in anything, and he's like, that's just what you could call me.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  That's what you could call me. Kunu.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  The locals gave me that nickname.

• 11:28Drew Afualo?

  See, we're about sixty percent of the way there.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the movie.

• 11:33Drew Afualo?

  Just off that riff.

• 11:33Speaker 02

  Okay, there we go.

• 11:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we have something.

• 11:35Speaker 02

  You got final draft?

• 11:38Speaker 02

  You got final draft and a ticket to Universal, we're writing something. We're writing something on the Fast and Furious ride.

• 11:44Drew Afualo?

  About the Fast and the Furious ride.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  About it.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 11:49Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so I want to talk more about TikTok and when you started making videos. Like, when you first started making them, when did you start feeling like, okay, maybe this is like turning into something?

• 11:58Speaker 02

  I, um...

• 11:59Drew Afualo?

  Do you have like a specific moment where you felt like, okay, okay, maybe I could turn this into like a full-time gig? Like, were you working at the time or were you just making videos?

• 12:07Speaker 02

  Um, at the time, I was like at a, uh, community college. And like when it really, when I was like at like a million followers or something and like, I think, I think growing up watching YouTubers and stuff, I always knew this was a career that you could have and like this is something like I could do.

• 12:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's fair.

• 12:24Speaker 02

  So I was like, okay, well, how do I, so I have the followers on here, how do I get them over to somewhere else? Or like get them to be like actual like fans and like

• 12:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  And care about things that I make other than like

• 12:36Drew Afualo?

  Like other stuff.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, then like silly videos and whatever. And then I like got a manager in 2020 and then I started like auditioning for stuff.

• 12:45Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  And I was like, okay, well, this was the end goal. So I was like, we're, we're good. And honestly, it's been, I feel like looking back, it's like, it happened really fast, but then when I was in it, I was like, I guess it's like taken six years.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  Well, I guess it's been six years, yeah. But it's like, you know, on the internet, it's just like also fast. I feel like some people like blow up and like get these opportunities, whatever. And I think I was like seeing that and being like, hey, but your time shall come, king, king.

• 13:14Drew Afualo?

  You're talking to yourself?

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, king. What the hell? I mean, queen.

• 13:18Drew Afualo?

  No, that makes sense. That makes sense. It's fair too, because it's like, it, it seems, it seems interesting when you're watching it because sometimes people are going for other things, but then sometimes they end up in the spot that you were going for too. So it's like, it's interesting, like the timeline is just not, you can't rely on it. Like when you watch other people, you're like, it, it, it happens so differently for everybody.

• 13:37Speaker 02

  It happens so differently in this career. And also I think like, kind of like location does matter a lot. Because I was like, I was in Wisconsin for like most of it. Like I just moved to New York like two years ago.

• 13:47Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  And so it was like, I was in Wisconsin and like a big thing of mine was, I was like asking my manager, I was like, when can I go to a premiere? Like to me, that was like, I was like, I made it.

• 13:57Drew Afualo?

  No, I, I get that.

• 13:58Speaker 02

  If I like went to a premiere, I was like, when can I go to a premiere? And she's like, Kate, so you live in Wisconsin.

• 14:03Drew Afualo?

  They don't throw those there.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  No.

• 14:04Drew Afualo?

  Not often.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  You gotta be somewhere.

• 14:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Like I would ask her every time. I was like, the Five Nights at Freddy's movie, can I go to that one? And then she was like, no. She was like, you have to be on a coast and you're not.

• 14:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. It, it does make a huge difference.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  I mean, yeah, if you're

• 14:19Drew Afualo?

  Unfortunately.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  If you're there, it's just like kind of where the stuff is happening. But also, I mean, the job, you can do it anywhere, but if you want to go to those premieres, you gotta, you gotta make, you gotta make the time to get out there.

• 14:29Drew Afualo?

  What was your first premiere?

• 14:30Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Well, see, and now I'm like, I don't know if I even know. Like one of that, I was invited, well, the, my first premiere for a movie that I was in was First Time Female Director by Chelsea Peretti. If you can pull up a picture of me on the red carpet, you gotta see what I was wearing.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  I, actually, I'll just, I'll, because I'll just describe it to you. So my hair was way shorter. It was like curly, essentially, um, Annie style hair.

• 14:54Drew Afualo?

  Okay, got it.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  It was Annie style hair, which I would love to preface this by saying, like, I asked my hairdresser for a mullet she gave me. I don't think she realized my hair would like curl up when it got to it. Because it was like, it was like kind of longer than this and it gets like wavy, but then when it, it was like, it was like up here. And then I was like, oh, it's New York City. Like, I'll just like go shopping like there and like find a piece to like wear or something. I was like, it'll be so fun. The places I go, Forever 21, Urban Outfitters. And what I purchase, well, actually, no, what, what I came, so I came to New York, I was like, okay. I have a ribbed white bodysuit as my base. I'll find the other pieces. I was like, this will be fine. Go to Forever 21, I get a long denim skirt that's, um, what's it called? Ombre.

• 15:39Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 15:39Speaker 02

  Ombre from dark blue up to like a light wash, whatever. And then

• 15:43Drew Afualo?

  With the white bodysuit.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  With the white bodysuit tucked in. And I have a mesh orange, like ti- micro tiny crop that's like over that. I'm like, it's kind of just like a little piece to throw over. Neon green platform crocs.

• 15:58Drew Afualo?

  And you're in this movie?

• 15:59Speaker 02

  I'm in this movie. Like I, I threw paint on Kate Berlant. It was my, and I think I did it wrong. I think I did it wrong. I think I remember it causing like some drama on set where they were like, she threw it wrong. And I was like, well, you're asking me to throw a bucket of paint on a woman. This is my first role.

• 16:12Drew Afualo?

  How many ways can I do that?

• 16:16Speaker 02

  I guess the one way is hit her. Hit her with the paint. I missed her the first time and everyone was like, it's okay. And I was like, I'm ruining the movie. I was like, I'm ruining the movie.

• 16:25Drew Afualo?

  It does feel like that when you do, when you have small roles like that. It does feel like that. It feels like all of this is relying on me.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Well, and they

• 16:33Drew Afualo?

  And I'm like two hundredth on the call sheet.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, and also this was like the second day of shooting. Everyone was like, we're kind of over this. And I was like, and I was like, I was like, I'm so excited to be here. I was like, thank you guys for having me. And they're like, yep, we're almost done. Just throw the, just let's try throwing another pa- and the thing about paint is, you know, it's paint, so

• 16:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  You can't really reset that easily.

• 16:53Drew Afualo?

  Not yet.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  So I was like, uh, but yeah, so check out that picture. I look crazy. I also look like so happy to be there, which is sweet.

• 17:00Drew Afualo?

  And that's what matters.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:01Drew Afualo?

  Is that you're happy to be there.

• 17:02Speaker 02

  That's what matters. But the bodysuit was up there. I was watching the movie and I was like, I have to unclip this, but I can't unclip it because my skirt is so long. Like I was like, literally, do you know where your like vagina falls asleep?

• 17:14Drew Afualo?

  Do, am I familiar with that feeling? I can't say I am. I think it's happened, it's happened a couple of times, like where I've been, maybe if I was like riding something like a horse or something, maybe I would know a little bit more.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Interesting, because I feel like when you're riding a horse, like that would be active.

• 17:28Drew Afualo?

  Activating it.

• 17:29Speaker 02

  Whereas like when you're something

• 17:30Drew Afualo?

  But you're talking, you're talking about it being like choked to death?

• 17:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yes, yes, yes.

• 17:33Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I see.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  It's like, go to sleep, go to sleep, go to sleep. Yeah, I was like choked. I was getting choked and I couldn't

• 17:38Drew Afualo?

  You to your own pussy, go to sleep, go to sleep.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  I was like, shh, girl. Your time will come.

• 17:43Drew Afualo?

  Down, girl.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  Down, girl. I was like, and then at the end, I was like, Jesus, I was like, we have to get out of here. This bodysuit's killing me. So shout out to that, um, really looking for a stylist.

• 17:53Drew Afualo?

  Oh, really?

• 17:54Speaker 02

  Really looking for a stylist, Jesus Christ. I can't just keep wearing like Forever 21 micro mesh tops.

• 18:00Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I was styling myself too for a very long time and then I did get some stylists and then like the first one, she kind of was like scamming me, so had to let her go. And then the next one would ask me for gas money, which I found out after the fact was actually not a good thing.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Part of the rate.

• 18:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that was actually not, yeah, yeah. They would be like, can you

• 18:19Speaker 02

  And my rent.

• 18:20Drew Afualo?

  Like literally, they'd be like, can you give me like forty bucks to get there?

• 18:25Drew Afualo?

  I mean, you have my outfit, so I, I guess.

• 18:29Speaker 02

  I guess I'm, yeah. I don't have anything to wear.

• 18:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're kind of, you're kind of painting me in a corner.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I guess, yeah, get over here. We'll, we'll, yeah, we'll figure something, we'll, we'll talk about that.

• 18:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so I, I was like doing that too. I was like going day of kind of thing and I was like, uh-oh.

• 18:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:44Drew Afualo?

  And when you're not like a size two, it's hard.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 18:47Drew Afualo?

  To source immediately.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:49Drew Afualo?

  And it's crazy how those Geddies, like when you see them, sometimes you're like, I'm seeing things I never in my life have seen.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. Yeah.

• 18:59Drew Afualo?

  That's how you guys see me?

• 19:01Speaker 02

  I like think I have body dysmorphia in like both ways.

• 19:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Where it swings where I'm like, I look, like I look exactly like Doolittle, like I'm not even, and I cannot even like, I'm telling you, I like, I mean that earnestly.

• 19:14Drew Afualo?

  No, I agree.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  I'll look in the mirror and I'll go

• 19:15Drew Afualo?

  I always think that. That's why I was

• 19:17Speaker 02

  I have this, I have like, like I have, what's a, it's a fat roll. I have a fat roll here that I think in some shirts looks like abs. Like looks like abs peeking through.

• 19:28Drew Afualo?

  It's not.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  I'm like, okay, my abs are peeking through today, hot. And then other days, most of those times are when I'm photographed by someone who's not myself. I go, I go, oh, my God.

• 19:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, huh, that's tough. That's what I think.

• 19:43Speaker 02

  Where do I go? Where did do I go? She was just there in the, in the mirror.

• 19:48Drew Afualo?

  That's so funny.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Not that long ago.

• 19:51Drew Afualo?

  I've like taken, uh, I've like joked about how I love when I go to stuff and they have like carpet or Geddies and then they just like don't really want to take your picture. That's happened to me a few times.

• 20:03Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh. What, what do you do? Do you have to like get them to take a picture?

• 20:06Drew Afualo?

  I'll stand there and I'll be, and I'll do the like, but you could just tell, like when you walk up, they're like

• 20:12Speaker 02

  Oh, kill me.

• 20:13Drew Afualo?

  Like that's all they, they're kind of like

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

• 20:18Drew Afualo?

  Like rolling their eyes.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:19Drew Afualo?

  All right, take it.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, hey, I'm on the list. I'm just, you know, it's my job too.

• 20:25Drew Afualo?

  They could care less, honestly. So that was your, that was your first premiere that you were in?

• 20:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:30Drew Afualo?

  What, did you go to a premiere before that or was that your first premiere ever? Because that's a really big flex, is my point.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  I think maybe that was

• 20:38Drew Afualo?

  Your first premiere?

• 20:38Speaker 02

  My first premiere, which, and then, and then you do realize like, oh, they're not as glamorous as you think.

• 20:43Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  They're not really as like, I was like, oh, I was like, okay.

• 20:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 20:47Speaker 02

  I guess, I don't know. I thought I was, I guess I was expecting like the Met level. And this was

• 20:53Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, when you go and see it, it's like, that's kind of how it feels too, when you like go on like sets and stuff too. Like they are magnificent because you're like, oh, cool. But the whole process of it is like, is shit. You just don't even realize. It's a lot of sitting around.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. I, it is. I was like, oh, this is different. So yeah, guys, just remember your dreams are never as they seem.

• 21:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:15Drew Afualo?

  Grass is not always greener.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  It's not always greener. Sometimes it's, you know, plastic and it's like this big and that's what you're getting your picture taken on and you thought it was like this big. And you're like, okay, so the industry's dying.

• 21:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and yeah, get that.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:29Drew Afualo?

  Uh, this is like such a stupid ass thing too, but my very first premiere ever was the movie Ambulance. Uh, not, not sure if you're familiar.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  Oh, I think I actually saw a billboard of that. I actually think I can vividly remember that because I'm like, that's a movie.

• 21:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, just called Ambulance.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 21:47Drew Afualo?

  Ambulance.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Ambulance.

• 21:48Drew Afualo?

  That was my very first premiere ever.

• 21:49Speaker 02

  I was.

• 21:50Drew Afualo?

  I also wore a Forever 21 dress, if you can believe, when I went there. Um, but I remember too, like afterwards, after I walked, it was like very like anticlimactic, like you say, like it's kind of like, oh. And then you're just sitting in the theater for a fucking hour, like you, while you wait for the cast to come out and talk and then they, they show you the movie. And I remember when I was sitting, me and my husband were sitting behind Frankie Grande. And I remember

• 22:14Speaker 02

  Just saw Frankie Grande in Titanic.

• 22:16Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, how was it?

• 22:18Speaker 02

  Well, Titanic's incredible.

• 22:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I heard, I've heard nothing but amazing things about it. And I, I have ran into Frankie Grande more times than you can believe. I like, he and I have an invisible string.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Yes, yes.

• 22:28Drew Afualo?

  Like he and I have something. And I remember he was sitting right in front of me and he was talking to someone and then he was going, oh, girl, if you want to get your Geddies, you have to go on here. And I watched him go on his phone and show her how to find herself on Getty. And that's how I know how to find myself on Getty. So Frankie Grande, thank you for that.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  Shout out Frankie Grande.

• 22:46Drew Afualo?

  Shout out Frankie Grande, so I could see all the ugly pictures on my phone.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, so I could see all the pictures that I wasn't going to post.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Like, I can't like, I was so excited. I was like, it's my first premiere. I go to Getty things, scroll all the way to the bottom. Like, I need you to put the picture up. Like, I actually used to have like a highlight on my Instagram of like, it was called The Picture. And I was like, it's time to let this go. This doesn't have to define me anymore. This isn't like, this isn't like who I am anymore. But like, but like, I'll, I'll send you guys it. Don't worry. Cause it's like, but you can tell she's, she's really happy. She was really happy.

• 23:23Drew Afualo?

  And she's in a movie.

• 23:24Speaker 02

  And she's in a movie. That's what she wanted. Ultimately, this is the life we chose.

• 23:30Drew Afualo?

  That's true. The good and the bad.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  The good and the bad.

• 23:33Drew Afualo?

  Laura, did you send it to me?

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Yes, you did. Oh, my god.

• 23:37Drew Afualo?

  Grace, this is crazy.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. The outfit I'm wearing, isn't that insane?

• 23:40Drew Afualo?

  Grace, it's actually, it's actually worse than I thought.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 23:48Drew Afualo?

  The pose is, is honestly.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  Oh, I was jumping.

• 23:51Drew Afualo?

  But the pose is distracting from the outfit, so it's a good thing. So that's, you did great.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Is that, is that what you were sort of picturing? Or what you, it's a jean, it's a denim ombre?

• 24:00Drew Afualo?

  It was, but it's somehow, it's somehow, it's worse, though.

• 24:04Speaker 02

  And the haircut, look at the haircut.

• 24:05Drew Afualo?

  Your hair looks real cute. I think your hair texture is really cute. So I think your hair looks gray.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Okay. It was just shorter than I wanted.

• 24:12Drew Afualo?

  The shrug is a little confusing to me. Your orange shrug. It looks like those African nets.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes. I was like, and then I was like, wait a second. Let me put it on.

• 24:24Drew Afualo?

  I know. My back is buttery smooth.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, my back's buttery smooth. I'm gonna be front page on Getty. Oh, god, yeah. I was just jumping around. I was just, I was so, yeah, I was really happy. I was really happy that day.

• 24:36Drew Afualo?

  No, you look very happy. That is so.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Someone comes up to me, you look really happy.

• 24:41Drew Afualo?

  You do. You look, I, well, if you love it, I love it.

• 24:44Speaker 02

  I know. And that's why we're gonna work, we're gonna work on it.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  That's, I'm still learning. Honestly, I still take pictures like that. Like, I still take pictures.

• 24:57Drew Afualo?

  It's not you.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  I need to learn how to like, I haven't, I haven't figured out how to like, smize or serve yet, because I'm still kind of like, should I be, should I just be like, hmm?

• 25:06Drew Afualo?

  You know what? You know what I'll say? It's like, I've, I've walked a lot of those now at this point, but like, you're, it, it really is something you just learn as you.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:16Drew Afualo?

  You have to do a million of them. That's like the fucked up part. It's like, you'll do, you'll do a million of them and you'll be like, wow, I hate that. I hate that. I hate that.

• 25:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then you'll be like, oh, hold the pee.

• 25:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  Hold the pee. Like, you have a little, you're a little princess and you're holding a little pee and just sort of look down.

• 25:30Drew Afualo?

  I love when you like, when you see videos of people talking about men like mugging like that in pictures, but they're like, they like suck in their, or put their tongue on like, to give it a very like, kind of.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  I know. I always forget to breathe. Yeah. I'm always like.

• 25:48Drew Afualo?

  The worst is when it's a million, billion degrees. That's like the worst.

• 25:52Speaker 02

  Oh, god, I'm a sweater.

• 25:54Drew Afualo?

  Me too. I'm a big sweater.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  This upper lip is just.

• 25:58Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my god, me too. That's the first place that, it's like there and my hairline, so it drips down.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Oh, and then my, I, when I, um, when I used to play softball, people would be like, are you crying? And I'm like, no, because my sweat would just pile up here and then like drip down into like tears. And I'd be like, no, I'm just really, I'm sweating. I'm working really hard. I'm just really hard. So I'm, looks like I'm crying and then like all the mascara falls and then, so then I'm just like, hey, I'm just not gonna wear makeup to these things. And then I, and then I just, and then the flash catches all the other stuff. And I'm like, okay, never mind.

• 26:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's when I, I've, I've worked the Oscars a few times and like, that's the scariest carpet. Like, to this day, that's the scariest carpet, even though I've walked it a few times now. And it's because obviously there's 50 billion cameras and videos going at the same time, but it's, it's literally like as you pass them, they're uploading it. So it's all going up live, all going up somewhere, going to Getty. Like, so it's like, it, you are done. After you walk that, whatever you looked like, make peace with it.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 26:56Drew Afualo?

  Make peace with it. Hope you're happy.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  No touch ups. And if the touch up, you better do them right then and there. That's why I'm bringing like the fan everywhere. I'm bringing that little fan. I'm like, I can't.

• 27:05Drew Afualo?

  I always joke, especially when I work carpets, I always bring my fan, but I always joke, I bring an automatic and a manual. So I bring like my electric and I bring like a traditional one too, because if it dies, then I have a backup.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:15Drew Afualo?

  Oh, and that thing's not dying.

• 27:16Speaker 02

  Sweater too. Yeah. It's, it's tough. And by the way, it's like 100, um, 200 degrees outside or something. I got here and I was like, what's going on?

• 27:24Drew Afualo?

  No, you.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  I got a sunburn instantly.

• 27:26Drew Afualo?

  No, you literally, you literally came at like the most ungodly heat right now. I couldn't believe how hot it was. Like, and I live here, so.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Okay, so things are, things are looking good.

• 27:37Drew Afualo?

  Maybe it's because you're here.

• 27:38Speaker 02

  Maybe it's I bring the heat. Melissa McCarthy.

• 27:42Drew Afualo?

  Wait, was it right? It's called heat?

• 27:43Speaker 02

  Okay, cool. Callback.

• 27:46Drew Afualo?

  Okay, callback.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  Okay, when the callback lands. I'm having trouble remembering things. So like, that's actually a win for me. I have my, my recall, my recall is really bad. It's bad. I'll forget. I'll forget most things.

• 28:00Drew Afualo?

  FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan favorite roles. Light your candles, draw your pentagrams, and prepare for a supreme surprise. FX's American Horror Story 13 premieres September 24th on FX and Hulu. What came after TikTok? Like, did you get a role? Like, what did, did you join improv? Did you start doing sketch? What did you start doing?

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. So like, I was posting TikToks and like, I actually think my first real gig was a virtual reality comedy show. Like, they sent us like meta, like virtual, they're, at the time, they're called like Oculus, whatever. And I did like a virtual reality like show.

• 28:48Drew Afualo?

  That is crazy.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  So like, that was kind of like.

• 28:50Drew Afualo?

  What did you do in the virtual reality show? Like, how? Like, what were you doing in it?

• 28:53Speaker 02

  It was like, it was called Schits and Giggles and I was just, it was like, it was a, it was a play and I was like a character in it and it was like, I was like a 50s housewife. And my to, I was in love with my toaster. And it was kind of for like the meta team to be like, what's, what can we do in VR? It was like some sort of experiment. And then, I mean, well, you know, I don't, you haven't seen a comedy show in VR since, so. Lucky to just, you know, I saved you guys from that. I saved you guys from that. Okay, don't worry.

• 29:23Drew Afualo?

  You're welcome.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  But it was fun. It was fun. And also it was like developmental. So like, at the time, it could only, like, the world could only fit so many people in it. So there's literally like three people watching it. Cause like, because we have like all the cast and then like the crew like hidden in, in the sky or what, in the clouds, like doing everything. So it was like three people were there. I was like, okay. But, um, after that, then I actually lived in LA for a little bit and I did this sketch group called Staple View. So we did like sketches and then we did like a live stream element, like we had a live show kind of thing that was on TikTok.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  And it was, yeah, like sketch like that. And then moved back home for a little bit. And then American High, um, reached out to me and then I went over there, which is like up in Syracuse, like upstate New York. And we, um, which, um, Caleb was in the pizza movie. So he was up there. So, yeah, yeah. So we were like up there and we did like some sketches and then they also like make movies. So I was like, I was like bartender in their movie and video game employee. And then.

• 30:26Drew Afualo?

  How do you like sketch? How do you like, like, what's your favorite medium of comedy? If you had to pick like sketch, acting, you know, doing your own videos, like your own kind of thing?

• 30:36Speaker 02

  I feel like improv's nice because I feel like there's no like, I feel like when I do a show where it's like my characters, I get stressed because I'm like, oh, my gosh, I have to rehearse and I have to hit the specific things. Whereas improv, I'm like, well, if it's funny, it's funny. And then if it's not, whatever. I just like, I literally just showed up and we're doing this now, type of thing. So that feels kind of fun.

• 30:55Drew Afualo?

  And you go on the move. Like, it's not pre-planned, really.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. So that feels kind of nice where it's like, I don't know, let's just like go and I guess see what happens. So, but I don't know, probably, probably sketch, probably sketch. And then improv is like.

• 31:08Drew Afualo?

  That's so tea. I love that. But well, how do you like writing? Because I know you're, you're clearly a writer too. So how do you like writing? Is it fun for you? Or are you learning to love it more?

• 31:15Speaker 02

  Writing, writing's hard.

• 31:17Drew Afualo?

  It is hard. It's really fucking hard. I've come to find that out as well.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. Are you writing something now?

• 31:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm writing a, a TV show, actually. With Amanda, my sister.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Oh, bless. Okay, slay.

• 31:29Drew Afualo?

  We're writing a show right now, actually.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 31:31Drew Afualo?

  And it is, it is difficult. Yeah. So I'm curious to know how you're feeling. Because obviously, obviously, the Hunger Games thing is, is a spoof, obviously, but it is still writing and it was so funny.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Well, that was, that was improv, though.

• 31:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Oh, all improv. Okay.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  It was, it was just like, we shot listed the whole thing and was like, okay. And also we told everyone, watched the movie before, but it was just kind of like, what happens in this scene? And where do we kind of end? And then it was just kind of like.

• 31:55Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's even cooler.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  But that sketch group, the, the same people that were in The Hunger Games.

• 32:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  We made a show called Minimum Wage in, in the winter. So that, that we wrote, that is hard.

• 32:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  Because also like all my friends like went to school for that. And then I just like, sort of like fell into it. And I was like, so I feel like imposter, yeah.

• 32:15Drew Afualo?

  I feel that way too.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  I'm like imposter syndrome so hard because I'm like, oh, they have degrees in this. I'm like, but it's nice because.

• 32:21Drew Afualo?

  That's why I feel talking to Amanda when we write.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Oh, my god.

• 32:25Drew Afualo?

  I feel like a big dumbass when I'm writing with her because she knows all these terms and I don't know any of them.

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Yes, they're talking like plot. I'm, I'm kind of like more like the riffing in someone's down there type. Yes, I'm like, I don't know. I'm kind of like that. There was one episode that felt like really good, like that kind of like came to me, like the prom episode I wrote. And it was like really silly and fun. And that one, I was like, oh, my gosh, that was the first time I was like, I feel proud about this. And I was like, this, this is good. I think it's just, it's so hard. It's, it's, I think the hardest part is, I mean, not to be cliche, is starting, the starting part.

• 33:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's true.

• 33:01Speaker 02

  And once you get in it, you're like, okay, whatever.

• 33:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And it's like, I think too, for some reason, I feel like in my head, I was thinking that my TikTok videos that I make where I'm like, improv-ing essentially jokes on the fly or here on the show or whatever. It's more so just based in improv. So I'm like, oh, well, whatever happens, happens, like you were saying.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:18Drew Afualo?

  Um, whereas like writing it, I feel like there's like, well, it has to be funny. Like, that's what I keep thinking for us. Like, when I'm in improv, I just know I'm funny. So I'm sure I'll get there. That's what I always think of. Like, I'm sure I'll get there.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  Well, and I'm sure that happens while you're writing too. I'd like, I'm never like, my one friend who also does like character stuff, she was like, I can't write standup. She's like, I don't know how to write a joke. And I was like, thank god. I was like, oh my God, and she's really funny and she's a comedian. And I was like, thank God someone else said that because literally I'm like,

• 33:50Speaker 02

  like stand up, stand up, I'm like, I'm like, I have no idea.

• 33:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, stand up for me was one of those things where it, it was almost like, you should try stand up. And then I was like, well, I don't want to be like every other dude who makes jokes on the internet that goes, I should go workshop this at the last.

• 34:05Speaker 02

  Sure, yeah.

• 34:05Drew Afualo?

  So I was like, I didn't want to be like that guy, but I also love stand up and I, I was, I also felt the same way. And then when I talked to Caleb about it, he was like, you are essentially writing jokes. Like when you riff like that, you're writing jokes. Like it's just be, you just gotta write it down. But even I found when I tried stand up, cause I tried it and it did, it, I did well. Like it was like, they laughed, which is the goal.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  Yep, you got, you got them.

• 34:25Drew Afualo?

  But I, obviously there was a lot of room to improve, I'm sure, but I felt very like, almost like confined by it because obviously,

• 34:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:32Drew Afualo?

  you, you can like deviate a little bit, but you really gotta stick to what you prepared so that you have a cohesive, however much time, five, 10, 15 hour. Um, and I felt so like, I felt like it was mostly just memorizing and that doesn't make me feel that funny.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  It's theater.

• 34:49Drew Afualo?

  Right at that point.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Theater. You're like an actor. You're just on stage like hitting your, yeah, I don't know.

• 34:54Drew Afualo?

  That's how I felt when I did it. And I think that's maybe why I was kinda like, I think I'd rather act and write.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  Sure, yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. Stand up like, it's so intimidating.

• 35:04Drew Afualo?

  Thoughts, yeah.

• 35:04Speaker 02

  I like characters, cause I think naturally I'm, I'm just more inclined to be like, like bigger and sillier and, and wacky and like absurd. And I feel like that lends itself to characters maybe more than stand up, but I don't know. I also like, wasn't really like, I don't really like watch stand up if I'm being honest.

• 35:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Like, I mean, I live in New York, so like I go sometimes, but like, but like I was never like watching people's specials or like,

• 35:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  anything like that. I was like, no.

• 35:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I told one of my, one of my friends, I was like, I just like, I, I have so much respect for stand up. I love stand up. And so like, I don't want to be one of those guys that just takes up fucking air for, for the sake of it. Like for, cause I have the platform. Let me go tell some jokes on stage.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:44Drew Afualo?

  And one of my friends who's a comic, she was like, I think it's awesome that you have respect for it like that. You're kinda like, I know my place. Like,

• 35:49Speaker 02

  But then also a part of me is like, well, more women should do it for sure. I'm like, you don't have to.

• 35:55Drew Afualo?

  That's literally.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  I'm like, you don't have to think like that, maybe.

• 35:57Drew Afualo?

  More white guys need that.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. If more men could sort of think in that way. Yeah. But like, that's like what my therapist has been telling me a lot. She's like, okay, but what a man thinks like, and then I'm like, oh damn it. I'm like, you're right. She's like, would a man be feeling this guilty all the time?

• 36:13Drew Afualo?

  I know for real.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  No, he wouldn't.

• 36:15Drew Afualo?

  You know what? You're right.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  I'm like, what is this guilt? Why is it always here? No, yeah, no, I would, if, if I were.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  Thank God I sing the Beyonce one and not the Taylor Swift one. If I were the man, I was like, whoo. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I'll be the man. Okay, here we go. I just had to, I had to get it out.

• 36:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, I got one.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  I had to get it out. I'm a Swiftie. I'm a Swiftie too. Yeah. Thank God.

• 36:41Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm glad to hear we have similar sentiments to it.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, we respect the art of stand up so much.

• 36:47Drew Afualo?

  And then also I feel, and we also kinda feel like, or I'm like, I think I could be funnier in other, other mediums. That's how I feel.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:53Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, I'm sure I would do fine, but like, I wanna act. And I, and I get what you mean about characters for, uh, like what you were saying, like that's where you feel like you're, you're biggest and silliest.

• 37:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:03Drew Afualo?

  And that, uh, I think that's very common for a lot of actors. Like I know Kristen Wiig, like she's really shy in real life. But she loves to act in characters. Like that's like her thing. So like, that makes us.

• 37:14Speaker 02

  I didn't know she was shy in person.

• 37:15Drew Afualo?

  You're gonna be a legend.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I'm so, I'm shy as fuck. I really am.

• 37:20Drew Afualo?

  Oh my God, me too, me too, me too.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh, do I have to be funny all the time? I'm like, sometimes I'm really quiet.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Sometimes when I'm home, I'm really quiet actually. And I'm like, fuck.

• 37:30Drew Afualo?

  I know, I feel the same way.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  Stars are just like us. I'm like, shit, I'm just.

• 37:34Drew Afualo?

  I used to think that too, when I would sometimes see, um, celebrities talk about that and they're like, I actually like, I'm so shy and like, I don't even really like talking to anyone. And I'm like, okay, well, if I wanna do that, I'm, I do like talking to everyone and I'm not shy. Shit.

• 37:49Speaker 02

  What am I gonna be then? Okay.

• 37:52Drew Afualo?

  What if I'm a star?

• 37:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  You're just like this all the time.

• 37:57Drew Afualo?

  I'm just so not mysterious, like at all. There's nothing mysterious about me.

• 38:01Speaker 02

  Oh, I, yeah, I'm, I very much am like, okay, should I go the Zendaya route where like I don't share anything at all? And I'm just like posting like, the pictures, the, the Getty pictures.

• 38:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, my Bulgari ads.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Yes, yeah, yeah. This is my smart water ad.

• 38:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, for real.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  I'm like, should I just do that? Or do I share like everything? It's so like, I don't know. I don't know.

• 38:23Drew Afualo?

  It is one of those things.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Cause I can do whatever you want, but.

• 38:25Drew Afualo?

  I do think, I think it's evolving too. I think that's why a lot of, uh, people online love like influencer people or like TikTok people because

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:33Drew Afualo?

  they feel like they know us or they feel like there's this level of like access to us. That's like, that you don't get with a Zendaya or like a Beyonce or someone who's super, super, super famous.

• 38:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:43Drew Afualo?

  And I, and I'm sure you know this now too, like when you meet a lot of these celebrities too, especially if they've been in the game for a while. Sometimes when you talk to them like before cameras roll, they're like really normal and very nice. As soon as that shit turns on, they, they get weird. Like they turn lobotomized almost.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  Oh, really? Oh, wait, you're talking like for interviews specifically or like?

• 39:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like interviews. Like more so like they, they, you, they turn it on. Like they're, it's almost like, okay, no more.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  Their PR training or something?

• 39:09Drew Afualo?

  No more personality. Like I, there's not a ton of personality. It's very like, yes, like it's very polite and like awesome. Like, oh, awesome, awesome. Yeah.

• 39:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, curated and awesome.

• 39:20Drew Afualo?

  And awesome. Yeah. And then it's like, you can't take anything from that. Like it's all good stuff.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  Oh, right. It's weird that we were riffing before. We had the answer.

• 39:27Drew Afualo?

  That's kinda how I felt sometimes, sometimes when I talk to some stars, which like, I'll, I'll tell you one, like when I interviewed, when I interviewed

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 39:36Drew Afualo?

  And the same time I interviewed them from

• 39:40Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 39:40Drew Afualo?

  And, uh, they were lovely and amazing, but she was extra fun and super lovely and amazing. And she came in early. He was like a couple, like 10 minutes late. And she sat with me. That bitch was king with me. Like she was like, I love your tooth chumps. I love those. I lowkey thought she wanted to get in my pants. So I like, like, I was like,

• 39:59Speaker 02

  I mean, maybe.

• 39:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I always felt that.

• 40:01Speaker 02

  I mean, like.

• 40:01Drew Afualo?

  And I meant like in a very like, I, I know you, I know you kinda level. That's how she felt to me. And I was like, oh my God, how fun. I did not think you're gonna be like this. Soon as that camera turned on, it was like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Oh, interesting.

• 40:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. So it was kind of, it was a letdown in that regard. Cause I, only in the sense that I was like, that sucks that you have to do that. I get why you do that.

• 40:19Speaker 02

  Like, oh, this is my press performance kinda thing.

• 40:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, that sucks.

• 40:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:25Drew Afualo?

  That sucks that you have to do that. And I remember too, when, when we left, um, my friend Carrie was with me, uh, and she, when we left, she was like taking pictures of us and videos like behind the scenes kinda thing. And then her manager or something texts, uh, Carrie and was like, can you make sure that anything, if she was like, cause she was using one of those wisps to brush her teeth, you know, like when they use it to clean your mouth really fast. She was using one, but this is just a fun fact. It was in his mouth first. And he was like, she said, can I use that too? And he said, yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 40:54Drew Afualo?

  So then she was using it cause they were both drinking coffee, whatever.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:58Drew Afualo?

  And then she was like, can you just make sure any content with her using that thing? Can you not put it anywhere?

• 41:04Speaker 02

  Because it was seen in his mouth or something?

• 41:05Drew Afualo?

  I have no idea. I don't know if it's just cause she looked human for a second and that's not allowed. That's how it felt. Like it felt like,

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:12Drew Afualo?

  I don't want anyone seeing her put toothbrushes in her mouth.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have to think they're veneers. They're perfect. She's not brushing those things or cleaning them. Just so, just so the public knows, there's no maintenance that she is doing on these teeth.

• 41:22Drew Afualo?

  Right, for real.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  She has her teeth.

• 41:24Drew Afualo?

  That's why I was thinking, it, it just gets to that level where I was like, damn, that sucks.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:29Drew Afualo?

  It feels like I, I don't wanna feel like a, like Kate Middleton. You know what I mean? I don't wanna feel like I'm locked away.

• 41:35Speaker 02

  True.

• 41:36Drew Afualo?

  And I have to act. So I think we're striking a balance, you and I.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  We're striking a balance.

• 41:40Drew Afualo?

  We're oversharing a ton, but I think we're striking that balance.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're striking that balance where it's like, we're gonna clean our teeth and they'll see that. We're human. I know, that's interesting. Like the whole other like actor world of,

• 41:51Drew Afualo?

  Of that level.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  Of that level, yeah.

• 41:52Drew Afualo?

  Of, of like, I guess that part of acting.

• 41:55Speaker 02

  Like the A-list. Yeah.

• 41:56Drew Afualo?

  It's like that, that comes with it, I guess, the territory, which I was like, I don't like that.

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• 43:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:08Drew Afualo?

  I saw, I think I still wanna look human. I, I don't need to, I don't need to let them in on everything, but I think I still wanna look human.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  Right, right. They can know like I fart and stuff.

• 43:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I mean, I'm cool with it. I'm cool if they know that.

• 43:19Speaker 02

  I'm cool if they know that and we don't have to like cut the content around that. Well, maybe, depending on, I guess maybe actually.

• 43:25Drew Afualo?

  Depending on how insecure.

• 43:26Speaker 02

  Maybe actually.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  Actually, we don't have to keep that in.

• 43:30Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so what's, what's like a big dream you have, like outside of what you've already done? Like this is, I always say this is where we manifest dreams.

• 43:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 43:38Drew Afualo?

  I've made many dreams come true in that chair, so.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  I believe it. I really believe it. You have, you have a power. You have a power. Okay. Oh my gosh, my dream.

• 43:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. If you have any big dreams in entertainment, movies, TV shows, plays, whatever it may be.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh. Okay. I think like big dream, I would, I mean, I would like love to make a real movie, like an actual real, not a spoof, not a parody. I mean, but the parody, I mean, hopefully I can make those for like ever, because they're so fun, they take three days. Um, but yeah, I guess like a big movie, like, and I would love to do like an actual, like just earnest, real like sci-fi movie.

• 44:19Drew Afualo?

  Ooh.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Cause I love like world building and like.

• 44:22Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, like Hunger Games kinda thing?

• 44:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:25Drew Afualo?

  Or like Dune?

• 44:25Speaker 02

  Dune. I wanna do like a Dune. I wanna do like a Dune. Like I love, um, Denis Villeneuve. Is it Villeneuve or Vella? I don't know. He's like French Canadian. I don't know.

• 44:35Drew Afualo?

  I'm not sure.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm really not sure. It's like Villeneuve or Vella, Vella, Novella, Novella Nueve. Something like, um, something like that. Love that guy. Love Blade Runner and stuff. Like something really like high concept and like weird.

• 44:48Drew Afualo?

  Really fucking cool sci-fi.

• 44:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, but then I'm like, oh, fuck.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  Then I'm like, what is it? Cause like Dune is all like politics and religion. And I'm like, I don't know that.

• 45:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like I do not know that stuff. What, like, uh, would you do, hmm, I'm trying to think.

• 45:06Speaker 02

  I know, like in a world where like.

• 45:08Drew Afualo?

  Like Star Wars or something, or like Lord of the Rings, like House of the Dragon? Like, would you go that way? Or do you like more of the futuristic stuff?

• 45:14Speaker 02

  I think I lean like more of the futuristic stuff and kinda like.

• 45:17Drew Afualo?

  Well, The Hunger Games is being reignited, so let's cross our fingers for maybe.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  Maybe they'll let me direct the, the next. So I know there's gonna be, I feel like there has to be a, a third one. They had like the sunrise on. Yeah, there's gonna be another trilogy.

• 45:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Maybe they'll let me direct the last one. Just be like, well, let's give her a chance.

• 45:34Drew Afualo?

  How do you feel about directing? Like, do you like, do you like directing or would you rather act?

• 45:38Speaker 02

  I like, I like directing. I don't like directing and acting at the same time, cause I'm kinda like, there, it's like lost in translation sometimes. And I feel like, so it's like hard to like keep up. That was like our show, Minimum Wage. Everyone, we, when we wrote an episode, we directed it. And so it's kind of hard when you're also like acting in it. And also like we, it had like a very limited, like we're just quick with the production. So it was like, we couldn't really sit there and like, you know, really study the monitor and be like, okay, that's good, whatever. So like, but there was one day where I could do that. And I was like, that was really fun. And like micromanaging every day. And just really getting in there and saying, you're saying this specific word wrong. I need you to go up at the end.

• 46:17Drew Afualo?

  That's cool. I love that you wanna direct. I think that's amazing.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Directing's fun, but like, I feel like acting's the main game.

• 46:24Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say, you're a star. You gotta be on, you gotta be on screen.

• 46:28Speaker 02

  I love, and then I'm also like, I am a princess. Like I wanna be treated like a princess. And like when you're on set, it's like, oh my gosh, I feel bad. I'm like, I feel really bad, but like this is nice.

• 46:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  I'm like, this is really good. They're always like, are you okay? I'm like, yeah, I'm actually okay now.

• 46:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I did, I did a commercial, um, like a commercial spot for Gillette and we worked in Miami. I was like filmed it in Miami. And I remember when we were on set, like, um, cause I've done a couple of those before, but this was like the first one I did on like a beach. Like it was like at a different location. It wasn't inside a studio or anything. And I like remember walking up to set, they had like, they had one person whose job was to hold the umbrella over me the whole time. And I felt so bad every time. I was like, I can just hold it.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  I know, some stuff like that.

• 47:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she goes, it's okay. It's my job. And I was like.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  I know, they always say that. They always say that. They're like, I'm supposed to do it. And then I'm like, okay, fuck you, fine.

• 47:25Speaker 02

  I'm like, okay, fine. Hold the umbrella and also could you rub my feet?

• 47:27Drew Afualo?

  Okay. And I would love a beverage.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:29Drew Afualo?

  If you're, if you're asking, if you're getting up and you're getting stuff.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  If you're asking. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, if you're gonna go, if you're going all the way out there, maybe a water bottle and put the straw in the thing. Yeah. Thank you. I guess.

• 47:41Drew Afualo?

  And then I've also been like, and I was on a, like an extra in a show, but I had like lines and like a really big show. And that put me at like, I think number 450,000 on the call sheet. I'm like, I'm so low, it's not even funny because it's the most A-list talent ever. And I've also been that person and that person also sucks in a different way. That, that does suck in a different way. But that's still fun. The experience is still so fun. But it's like, it's funny how it differs. Cause when I did that, I was, I sat and like picked my ass for eight hours. I was literally sitting at a table for like eight hours before they called me.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're like, oh, you need me now? Okay.

• 48:19Drew Afualo?

  And I'm in the same outfit from yesterday.

• 48:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. And it's stinky.

• 48:22Drew Afualo?

  I had to wear, I had to wear the exact same outfit today.

• 48:25Speaker 02

  Oh, right. Cause this was background extra? This was like your clothes?

• 48:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Yeah. So they literally told me, bring your own clothes. They made me take pictures in my own clothes. And then they were like, that one. And then I had to wear the exact same thing, like I say, and do my hair and makeup the exact same way.

• 48:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's really interesting. Cause like, like I knew nothing of the industry before. So it's like all the, all like the behind the scenes stuff. I'm like, oh, this is how you guys do it. I'm like, oh, it's really not that.

• 48:49Drew Afualo?

  You're so, you're me too. Cause I'm one of those people that when that happens, I'm like, movie magic.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Movie magic. She wants me to take a picture of my clothes and send it and email it to her.

• 48:59Drew Afualo?

  So this is how the sausage gets made, huh?

• 49:02Speaker 02

  Lot of Google Drive links. Lot of Google Drive links.

• 49:06Drew Afualo?

  They do set a lot of.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Sorry, it's files too big. It's, I'm like.

• 49:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Can you believe they're putting that shit in Google Drive?

• 49:11Speaker 02

  I know. Well, that's why when Charli XCX saying that you wanna guess the password to my Google, right? Doesn't she not say Google Drive? I was like, and Charli's using Google Drive. I was like, Google's, everyone's using it.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  Everyone's using Google Charli.

• 49:27Drew Afualo?

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• 50:48Drew Afualo?

  books, I started writing, we started it in there. And then my publisher was like, and please take it out of Google Drive. Like that's, it's so easy for people to get into Google Drive. We're like, oh. Oh.

• 50:59Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 51:00Drew Afualo?

  I didn't know that.

• 51:01Speaker 02

  And you're still on Google Drive? Okay.

• 51:04Drew Afualo?

  And I was, yeah, but you're right.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  So what do they want you on Word?

• 51:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we're on Word, doing track changes on Word.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Track changes? That's, that's literary terms.

• 51:13Drew Afualo?

  No, it's like a little option on, and it just literally like underlines where you make changes and it puts little like annotations.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  Oh, you're tracking cha, gotcha.

• 51:23Speaker 02

  Gotcha. Okay. We're track, yeah. Okay. Cool. Got it.

• 51:27Drew Afualo?

  Yep. That's how that works.

• 51:32Drew Afualo?

  I have kind of a random question for you. Were you a fangirl?

• 51:35Speaker 02

  So here's the thing. I don't like let myself enjoy anything.

• 51:38Drew Afualo?

  Okay. Well, let's work on that.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  I know.

• 51:41Drew Afualo?

  Except an amusement park?

• 51:42Speaker 02

  Except like I'm getting, I'm like, now I'm like, okay, no, I'm a fangirl. I think I'm like, I think I grew up and I was like, I'm not like other girls type of thing. And like, like Justin Bieber, I was like, no. And then Harry Styles, well, he's part of One Direction. Then One Direction came around. I was like, no. And I think I'm very much like, I have to be like different than everyone.

• 52:01Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  And then I was like, oh, and then also I didn't really read. I did not read a lot. I did not read those Hunger Games books.

• 52:06Drew Afualo?

  What were you doing?

• 52:08Speaker 02

  I was playing The Sims. I was literally, oh, so I guess I'm a fangirl in The Sims.

• 52:12Drew Afualo?

  I do, I do love The Sims.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  Yes. I was in The Sims 3 all the time. That's kind of all I was doing. Yeah. That's what, that's what I was into. I was into pets. I wanted to get like the unicorn. And that's literally what I was doing. But like now I think I'm like, I'm, I'm like, okay, I'm becoming a fangirl.

• 52:30Drew Afualo?

  You're re-experiencing stuff.

• 52:31Speaker 02

  I'm like letting myself be like.

• 52:32Drew Afualo?

  That's fun.

• 52:34Speaker 02

  Like, I think now I have a celebrity crush. Whereas before I was like, I, I wouldn't even let myself have a celebrity crush because I'm like, no, they would never like me.

• 52:42Drew Afualo?

  Grace.

• 52:47Speaker 02

  I was like, I don't know.

• 52:48Drew Afualo?

  Well, now I'm even glad, I'm even more glad you're in that chair.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  Yes. And then I was like, meh. And then I'd be like, oh my God. Or I would be very like practical about the crush. Like I really liked Miles Teller. I thought he was really cute from Divergent. And then I was like.

• 53:02Drew Afualo?

  By the way, he's evil in those movies.

• 53:06Drew Afualo?

  By the way, like.

• 53:07Speaker 02

  He's the worst.

• 53:07Drew Afualo?

  He's the worst.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  He's awful, but I was like, I like his nose. I was like, his nose is really, he's cute.

• 53:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  I was like, I like his nose. And then, um, oh yeah, then I found out he was married and I was like, well, there it goes. I was like, I'm like, I'm like very, I'm like very like, who can I, I'm like, it's like, I have to be able to pursue them or have a crush on them. I'm like, I'm like, I don't know. So I like, never had an answer, but I'm like, now I'm like letting myself.

• 53:33Drew Afualo?

  Now, now you're letting yourself experience that whimsy.

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Yes, experience that whimsy and just like, just being like crazy. Cause I'm so rigid.

• 53:43Drew Afualo?

  Well, you also.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  I'm rigid and shy in my normal life.

• 53:44Drew Afualo?

  And honestly, like I say this a lot to like my girlfriends, I've said it forever, but also now online. But like, you can gaslight yourself into any belief. And like, when I, I've talked about not having celebrity crushes many times before, but when I talk about it, I literally say, I don't have any because I genuinely believe with my whole heart, I could get anybody I wanted.

• 54:05Speaker 02

  Oh, I need that.

• 54:07Drew Afualo?

  That's literally what I'm saying. And you have, you're right there. You have access to it. Because you have the, you have the gift of like confidence in you. In the sense of your abilities, like you were so, you know, you're funny, you know, you're talented. And like, at least most of the time.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 54:21Drew Afualo?

  When you're not feeling down on yourself. But that's why you could easily transfer that to this.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  Where do you think you got your confidence from?

• 54:29Drew Afualo?

  I think for me, I, I think it was innate in, in some ways, but I, I, I think a lot of it was like how I was raised. So as I was, when I was growing up, because my sister is not like, was not like me at all in that regard. Like my sister's very shy and very introverted. Like she was the complete opposite of me. And I'm, um, younger than her. But I think when I was born, like I was so myself, and I think my parents encouraged it. Like they were, they never really like tried to make me dim a little bit or be like, oh, well, not everyone likes that. Like my mom let me dress however the fuck I wanted when I was a kid, like really young. She let me do whatever I wanted in terms of expressing myself. Like if I, like something I tell a lot on this, on the show is like, in fifth grade, we had to do a project, like a wax figure project.

• 55:11Drew Afualo?

  And so we had to pick someone we admire in history. I can't stress that enough. It had to be someone you admire. I do not admire this person. That's just who I picked. And I still, I'm unpacking why, but like, I picked King George the third. And I was the, he's the worst British monarch in their history.

• 55:26Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 55:27Drew Afualo?

  And I think I picked him because I was like, wow, this hubris is just out of control. That's my theory now, but I, I really couldn't tell you why I picked him.

• 55:34Speaker 02

  Or maybe like his outfits or something?

• 55:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like I have no idea. I just thought it was fascinating that he had all of this shit handed to him on a silver platter and ruined it all. Like I think, I think that's what I thought was interesting about him.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, how did you fuck this up so bad?

• 55:45Drew Afualo?

  How could you have possibly, this is such the layup of a century.

• 55:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, you didn't have to do anything.

• 55:49Drew Afualo?

  At all.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  You didn't have to do anything.

• 55:50Drew Afualo?

  No, for real.

• 55:50Speaker 02

  And everything you did made it worse.

• 55:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like genuinely worse for history, right? Time to come. And I remember at the time, I was the only girl who cross-dressed and I was the only girl who wanted to be a boy. And I, I was like, uh, very adamant about doing it. And my teacher called my mom and was like, I really think maybe she should pick someone else. Like it's supposed to be someone you admire, whatever. My mom was like, is it against the rules or like offensive? And she was like, no, and she's, then let her do it. Who cares? And so then my mom like dressed me up like a boy. I was like so adamant about how I wanted to look. And then I went to school fully in drag. I was in drag mama, head to toe. I talked in a British accent all fucking day.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, you have to prepare. You have to prepare for a big show.

• 56:31Drew Afualo?

  Method acting.

• 56:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:32Drew Afualo?

  And I remember like, it's shit like that, like throughout my life that my parents were like, sure.

• 56:36Speaker 02

  They'd like point to and be like.

• 56:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, my parents were like, yeah, why not? And I just always thought it was awesome. Like I was like, I'm so awesome. Like, ugh, I'm so awesome. Like that's.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck.

• 56:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck.

• 56:46Drew Afualo?

  It really, well, and it's like, it's like you, you can tell yourself anything and it can be true.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:52Drew Afualo?

  You know what I mean? Like, words are so powerful, especially the ones we say to ourselves. Like I always, I truly believe the ones you say to yourself when you're alone and like no one can hear you are like the ones that have the most profound impact on you.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 57:06Drew Afualo?

  And I used to joke, because I was a huge Jonas Brothers girl when I was a kid. Nick was my favorite.

• 57:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:10Drew Afualo?

  I was a Nick girl. And I used to always tell myself, God, when I meet him, like obviously he's going to love me, but like, what if I hate him?

• 57:17Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, you were thinking that? What the fuck? Like, and that's the thing is like thoughts are like, you could just do that. Yeah.

• 57:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Like, well, that's the, that's the craziest part. And I think women, women are never, like historically and societally speaking, were never given the space to like have that.

• 57:35Speaker 02

  Have that thought.

• 57:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  In our private.

• 57:37Drew Afualo?

  Let alone entertain it, like, like, and believe it. Like, so it's like, it, it, you think like, oh, I can just think that. Like I could, because who's going to prove me wrong? Him? Is he going to come tell me?

• 57:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:48Drew Afualo?

  Um, no, he's not. Like I would think that too, but then I'd also be like, but you don't know.

• 57:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:51Drew Afualo?

  Cause it's true, anything.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  You'll meet him and you're not going to like him.

• 57:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 57:54Speaker 02

  You're going to meet him and you're going to be like.

• 57:55Drew Afualo?

  I honestly think he was my favorite because I had a feeling he was the only one that was going to end up with a minority girl. And I was right. So.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 58:03Drew Afualo?

  So close that tea.

• 58:04Speaker 02

  Oh my God. Holy shit.

• 58:07Drew Afualo?

  I knew in my spirit that he fucks with brown girls. I knew, I knew it.

• 58:10Speaker 02

  Had you predicted anything else?

• 58:11Drew Afualo?

  Um, yes, I have. And I'm glad you asked.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  I. Something recent?

• 58:17Drew Afualo?

  It was nothing, it was nothing recent, but I did tell chicks, you can tell this story and she said it was fucking stupid, but I don't care. But I literally, when I was a kid, I felt like I read Dear John.

• 58:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 58:26Drew Afualo?

  And like, and everyone.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  It's a book that I didn't read.

• 58:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, by Nicholas Sparks. Either way.

• 58:30Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 58:31Drew Afualo?

  It was Nicholas Sparks book.

• 58:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 58:32Drew Afualo?

  But either way, when I read it, I had just seen the movie Step Up and I was like, wow, a jarhead, a jarhead military guy. I was like, reading it in my head, I was picturing, I was like, oh, maybe Channing Tatum from Step Up. Fast forward 10 years later, who placed him in the movie adaptation opposite Amanda Seyfried? Channing Tatum. You're welcome, Channing Tatum.

• 58:51Speaker 02

  You passed him in that film.

• 58:54Drew Afualo?

  And when I read the, when I read the Twilight books.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:57Drew Afualo?

  I listened to only, uh, Paramore's music because I felt like it matched the vibe. When the first movie came out, who made a song specifically for Twilight?

• 59:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. Miss Paramore decode.

• 59:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And that happened again with Fifty Shades of Grey.

• 59:13Speaker 02

  You were like The Weeknd?

• 59:15Drew Afualo?

  No, not The Weeknd, Sia. Cause Sia made music for like the second or third one. I forget. She made like a song for one of them. And I only listened to Sia when I read those terrible books. And when I read those books, I was like, wow, Sia, that's such a good vibe. And guess who made music for it?

• 59:28Speaker 02

  So you're a curator.

• 59:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  You're a producer.

• 59:31Drew Afualo?

  I'm a vibe curator.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  You're a vibe curator. You know, you're like, I can see this.

• 59:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:35Speaker 02

  You have synesthesia with soundtracks, soundtracks and actors in.

• 59:39Drew Afualo?

  Me and Billie Eilish, obviously are musically inclined.

• 59:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:43Speaker 02

  I mean, you can win an Oscar for casting now. So get in there.

• 59:47Drew Afualo?

  I'm owed a lot of royalties.

• 59:49Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 59:49Drew Afualo?

  I would say a lot of commissions, I would say.

• 59:52Speaker 02

  Well, that's awesome that you're just like thinking that stuff all the time. I'm like, yeah, I should.

• 59:56Drew Afualo?

  That's the phase you're entering. I'm going to manifest that for you.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  That's, that's what I would like to leave this chair with. Is that instead of like my science fiction movie, whatever.

• 1:00:04Drew Afualo?

  Which will happen too.

• 1:00:06Speaker 02

  Sure. But more importantly, I'm like, let's think positive. I'm at the point right now where I'm like, well, technically thoughts aren't real. And some of these thoughts I'm having maybe aren't even my own.

• 1:00:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  And are just like programmed from some whatever. And I've just like been saying them.

• 1:00:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:20Speaker 02

  So I'm at the point where I'm like, okay, let's like wipe this slate clean. Some thoughts aren't even mine.

• 1:00:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  And some thoughts are not even.

• 1:00:26Drew Afualo?

  It's true.

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:27Drew Afualo?

  It's very true.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  And then you start putting in good thoughts.

• 1:00:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And it's like, well, if I can think this, I can think the opposite of it too.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:00:34Drew Afualo?

  You know what I mean? Like it's, I, I said this to my, my friend and she was like, that literally blew my mind to the point where I like, I've like held it for a while. But like, we were talking about first dates. And, um, she was like, oh, I'm nervous about going on a first date, whatever. And I was, I was telling her, well, you know, like I always tell my friends, like when they go on first dates, like, just remember like they also have to impress you.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:00:56Drew Afualo?

  Cause, cause women especially always go into it thinking like, well, I hope they think I'm funny and smart and, and intuitive and kind. And I hope they think all these wonderful things about me. I hope they don't think I'm weird or ugly or whatever. But you don't ever go in going, I hope that they're what I thought they're going to be. I hope that they're like up to par.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:14Drew Afualo?

  So it's like, as much as like you want to make a good impression, they also have to want to make a good impression.

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:20Drew Afualo?

  And she was like, I just like, I'd never thought of it that way. Like, it's like you're going in for a job interview, uh, and you're not.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:01:26Drew Afualo?

  This is an obligate, this is not an obligatory thing we're doing. Like I'm entering into this because I hope you don't suck. And if you do, that sucks for you.

• 1:01:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because, and you, you want to.

• 1:01:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Like you're like, I'm doing this because I hope it turns out well.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:37Drew Afualo?

  And then I guess we'll see if you meet my standards. I guess we'll see.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  I'm hoping I meet a guy who like, doesn't want to touch me for like a whole month. I'm like.

• 1:01:46Drew Afualo?

  That's fair.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  I'm like, don't touch me for a whole month.

• 1:01:47Drew Afualo?

  That's fair, honestly.

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  We'll work up to that.

• 1:01:49Drew Afualo?

  When I, when I first started dating my husband, I, I did, I, we didn't have a first kiss. I think we went on like five or six dates and we didn't kiss at all.

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, see, okay, okay.

• 1:01:58Drew Afualo?

  And we didn't kiss at all. And that was not for, not for lack of him trying. I literally just, every time he pulled up to the house, I was like, okay, bye. And I got out and slammed the door. Cause I was getting, yeah, cause I was getting uncomfortable.

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  So I was like. Oh, you're getting nervous.

• 1:02:09Drew Afualo?

  It just felt, it just felt real.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  Not right now, not right now. No, that'll be me. I'm like, I went on a date recently, recently where a guy like, he like just touched my like leg. And I was like, it's like, what the fuck? I, I literally, I was like, oh my God, I was like.

• 1:02:23Drew Afualo?

  Like you're in Victorian times.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  The first thing I told him, I was like, sorry if I'm sweaty. I was like, sorry, it's really hot out. And he was like, oh, haha, yeah.

• 1:02:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we gotta work on that, girl. We gotta work on that.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  We need to work on that. And then after, oh my God, I can't even, I don't even know if I even want to say it. I don't even know if I said it. Then the next part, then I go, sorry, I'm new to dating. I just, I'm a little nervous. And then he was like, he was like, that's okay. I appreciate you being honest. And I was like, I gotta leave. I was like, I gotta leave. Did he text me back? Nope. Nope. Which is fine, which is fine. Because I was also like.

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• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  I don't like

• 1:04:07Drew Afualo?

  I was saying that all to you, feeling like you had to say that, not to him, fuck him.

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  Okay, cool, yeah, yeah, okay, cool. No, he was like, it was all like, all on like

• 1:04:15Drew Afualo?

  No, he, he was very sweet about it.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  It was a nice day, it was fine. I was just like, woo, I don't know if I'm ready for this. And it was the knee, he touched my leg. And I was like, and I was like, whoa. I was like, I was like, oh my god. I was like, what are you trying to do?

• 1:04:29Drew Afualo?

  What are we?

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was literally like, please stop touching me.

• 1:04:34Drew Afualo?

  People are gonna start talking.

• 1:04:35Speaker 02

  I know, I was like, great, a couple over there looking at me.

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  She's counting how many glasses I've had.

• 1:04:42Drew Afualo?

  So my house or yours?

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. He was like, yeah, I love the studio. I was like, oh my god, he wants to fuck me. He wants to fuck me. And I was like, I can't, I have to do this shit tomorrow.

• 1:04:52Drew Afualo?

  I, I have what I've described as like borderline delusional confidence, but it depends on who you ask, like, it's, and it's all subjective. You know what I mean? So that's what I talk about attractiveness too. I'm like, it's all subjective, it depends. To some people, I'm so ugly. To some people, I'm so beautiful. To some people, I'm fat. To some people, I'm not. It really just depends.

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  It really is.

• 1:05:12Drew Afualo?

  Depends on who you ask. And honestly, I don't care. Either way, what other people think, you know what I mean?

• 1:05:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:18Drew Afualo?

  So it's like, I think, I think for you, more than anything, like, I think, I, what I would love for you is to understand just how amazing you are.

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  Well, thank you.

• 1:05:28Drew Afualo?

  Cause I just met you, but you are incredible. Like, you are so talented and you are so bright. And you do have, you do have a very bright light about you, which is very naturally intimidating to men anyways. Like, that's already very overwhelming to a lot of men.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  That's the term that I'm like, ugh, that's intimidating.

• 1:05:43Drew Afualo?

  Well, and intimidation doesn't necessarily mean afraid. And, and a lot of times, it can make men irritated and irritable. Like, some men get very intimidated in a way where they lash out at it and they get annoyed.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  Because it's like, maybe like an envy thing of like, oh, I wish I had your confidence or something?

• 1:06:00Drew Afualo?

  I, I think it's like, not, it could be that. I think part of, sometimes it is that. I think sometimes it's men just feeling like they don't feel that confident about themselves. So they would like you to not feel that confident about yourself. It's almost like, when men react that way, it's really like, they feel lesser than. They need you to feel lesser than them because they already don't feel good enough.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:20Drew Afualo?

  So when you're overwhelmingly confident and you meet a not confident man, they, if they don't run away, the, what they'll try to do is make you not confident too. Like, so they just nag you more than anything. And they try to, like, you ever met a man that you can tell, like, they don't like that you're funnier than them, just naturally?

• 1:06:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, or just, or, or, or just like, yeah, I think that's like, because growing up, I had a lot of like female friends and like recently coming into this industry, I'm like, I'm like, most of my friends are like men now. And I'm like, how did this happen so quickly? And like, they're, and even comedians, sometimes it's so hard to tell. I'm like, are you being mean to me or are we joking? And I literally, I can't tell. So like, yeah, I'm like, I don't know.

• 1:07:04Drew Afualo?

  And it is one of those things, you see how women, like, when they talk, like, I saw someone talk about this, like, the science of talking, between women, women talking to each other and men talking to each other. Whereas like, when men talk to each other, they, they do this almost like competition thing.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 1:07:19Drew Afualo?

  The, the way they talk, it's like measuring stuff. Like, they're like, oh, what do you do for work? Oh, I do this. Oh, I work out this many times. I do this, whatever.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  And it's not really to learn more about the other person, but just to compare where we're both at.

• 1:07:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's just to kind of like dick measure. Whereas like, when women talk to each other, it's connection. Like, they're looking for connection. So when someone, like, if I'm telling you, like, oh, I like this kind of food, you're like, oh my god, I've had that food before. Like, that, that's how women converse with each other.

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  Right.

• 1:07:46Drew Afualo?

  And men are always competing in some way, like, when they talk. So when you talk about male comics, like, straight male comics, like, it feels like, it feels like you're, like, playing tennis. Like, sometimes, you're like, why does this feel exhausting talking to you?

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:08:01Drew Afualo?

  Can we just connect or are we competing?

• 1:08:02Speaker 02

  I'm feeling seen. I'm feeling seen. I'm like, yeah, because I'm like, gosh, it's, it's been feeling so hostile. I'm like, I'm like, and then I feel, and then I'm like, are you guys making fun of me right now in front of my face?

• 1:08:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and sometimes they are, like, and they just, and they think, and you know, but you're like, well, no one would do that to my face. That's what you're telling yourself?

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  I'm like, oh, I'm, I guess maybe I'm not that good at reading social.

• 1:08:24Drew Afualo?

  But do you see how, like, women are so much smarter that they've 360'd the fucking room? They're like, okay, so clearly you're feeling some type of way, but I don't want to think that you would ever make fun of me in front of me. Like, you're having that conversation with yourself and he's just going jab, jab, jab, jab, jab at you. See what I mean? So it is like, it's like, it's an ego thing. Like, they, like, with male comics especially, like, oh my god, some men in this industry, straight guys in this industry.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes, yeah, sometimes, yeah, just that, like, and then I think maybe that now kind of informs other conversations I'm in where I'm like, oh, is this person also?

• 1:08:57Drew Afualo?

  And it is a competitive thing. Because you can tell when you talk to a guy in this industry and it's not competitive, like, you can tell. And most often times, they're gay. But when you talk to a straight man in this, it's rare that I've talked to a straight guy in this industry that what, it didn't feel like a taxing conversation to have.

• 1:09:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:14Drew Afualo?

  Like, I'm thinking of one I had recently, well, Rhett and Link, I had them on and they were lovely.

• 1:09:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:18Drew Afualo?

  Josh from Mythical Kitchen, they're all under the mythical roof. All the good straight guys right there.

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:09:23Drew Afualo?

  Like, Josh is someone who's also lovely, like, really, really easy to talk to, looks, but that's because he looks to connect as opposed to compete. So like, that's, that's, that's probably what you were experiencing. And I can validate that for you. Because I've also had those experiences.

• 1:09:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, it's like, it's tricky.

• 1:09:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. And it does get like annoying, because you're like, okay, we don't need to, all right, whatever.

• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  Yeah. We're in like, we have like the silliest jobs. It's like, we're just being silly.

• 1:09:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, all of our jobs are made up. It's okay. We made these jobs up for ourselves. It's okay.

• 1:09:56Speaker 02

  And like, especially with the comments, I'm like, or comics, I'm like, we're the both same level of insecure. I'm like, we're doing, like,

• 1:10:04Drew Afualo?

  We're working it out right now, like, currently in our job.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Look at us, like, we're the same person. We don't have to really, like,

• 1:10:11Drew Afualo?

  We don't need to be doing all this.

• 1:10:12Speaker 02

  Everything you've told yourself, I've told this to myself also. Like, we're not, it's

• 1:10:16Drew Afualo?

  Put him down. It's okay.

• 1:10:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. It's okay.

• 1:10:20Drew Afualo?

  But I'm glad I could validate that feeling for you. You are not alone in that.

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah. That might have actually been happening. Like, okay.

• 1:10:26Drew Afualo?

  I do, we'll transition now. I do have some fun facts about you.

• 1:10:29Speaker 02

  Whoa, okay.

• 1:10:30Drew Afualo?

  Well, you'll let me know if they're fun.

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  Okay, sure.

• 1:10:32Drew Afualo?

  And I always tell my guests, and if they're not fun, I count it against Amanda.

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:10:37Drew Afualo?

  Um, so her job's on the line, no pressure.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  Okay, all right, let's see.

• 1:10:40Drew Afualo?

  So, this one says, uh, you used to work at the Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Ace Hardware and made comedy videos and sketches during your shift?

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:10:49Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's right. I think I remember you working at Ace Hardware in some of your videos.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I like, I, one that really blew up was just like the audio of like the, this year's, um, Teresa, she's my, she's my, whatever the Surf Sub um, audio with the grills, because I would build grills. And so then I'd be like, I'd be like, these are the ones I built. And then, yeah, I got in trouble because I was like live streaming during work, where I would just, you just have to like replace the tags, like, if there was a price change, which I'm like, why are we changing these prices so often? I'm like, this is most of my job is just taking out this little tag, putting in a new price that's like 80 cents. Like, I was like, because, whatever. But so, I would just like change the price tags and I would live stream. And then my boss, his kid saw my stream and he was like, yeah, you gotta quit that. And I was like, okay, it's like, well, like, when I'm doing people's hunting license, like, obviously I turn it off. And I'm, I'm not, I'm not streaming their, you know?

• 1:11:38Drew Afualo?

  You can't be showing these trade secrets.

• 1:11:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm like, we're just having fun. It's Ace Hardware. But he didn't like that. I mean, he didn't fire me, thankfully, but thankfully, thankfully. But yeah. No, Ace was, Ace was really fun. I liked working there. It was chill. It was really chill. I was like, just cutting keys.

• 1:11:55Drew Afualo?

  And building grills is crazy.

• 1:11:57Speaker 02

  Weber grills. It's fun. It was just like,

• 1:12:00Drew Afualo?

  You know your way around a grill?

• 1:12:01Speaker 02

  And I was taking that job very seriously. Very seriously, to the point where my dad was like, those are kids, by the way. Like, like, I was working with like a 17 year old. I was like, I was probably like 19, like, he wasn't that much younger, but I was like, he just doesn't do his job, dad. And he's like, you're not the manager. And I was like, I guess I'm not. I'm like, but when I asked him to sweep, he doesn't sweep. Yes, yes. He's like, Ace Hardware. And by the way, they're getting paid literally like 7.25. And I'm getting paid 8.25. And I was like, I was like, I don't know, damn it, I care. I was like, damn it, I guess I care.

• 1:12:32Drew Afualo?

  I guess I care too much.

• 1:12:34Speaker 02

  I guess I care about the Ace Hardware, whatever. I was like, it is my brand, but whatever.

• 1:12:37Drew Afualo?

  Nobody wants to get up off their ass and work these days.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  And then I was like, honestly, that kid, he's, like, me too. Like, I'm on my phone also. Like, why am I acting like I'm better than him? I was like, that poor kid.

• 1:12:48Drew Afualo?

  I'm on my phone in a different way, though. It's more of a like,

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, like in the bathroom. He's on it at the register, but I guess, whatever. Just whatever.

• 1:12:57Drew Afualo?

  Okay, this one says, uh, you, oh, you used to find insane Harry Styles fanfiction on WAPad and acted it out.

• 1:13:03Speaker 02

  That, yeah. Well, that, okay, well, let's, so, I didn't find that. I wrote, drag queen, I'm the queen of drag. I didn't, so that was just like, that was just like, kind of something that came to my head, I guess. It was just like,

• 1:13:19Drew Afualo?

  Off the dome.

• 1:13:19Speaker 02

  I was off the dome. I was off the dome. But that was, I mean, I will, I will say it was a trend at the time.

• 1:13:24Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:13:25Speaker 02

  The, the WAPad fanfic stuff. That was a trend.

• 1:13:28Drew Afualo?

  And fanfic is real popular, so that makes sense.

• 1:13:30Speaker 02

  That makes sense. See, that's the fangirl in me. I wasn't reading, also because I wasn't reading.

• 1:13:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so you were unfamiliar with like how crazy it was getting on there.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:39Drew Afualo?

  And it's funny because what you did make up still was like, would make sense if it was in a fanfic, I'm sure. Like, whatever nonsense you were making up, I'm sure has been written down in a fanfiction.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  100%, yeah. I'm like, shout out to these fanfic writers. I gotta, I gotta get into it more.

• 1:13:54Drew Afualo?

  Girl, they are so colorful. It's actually insane. Okay, this one says, you have a wood carving of a cheese head. A Packers fan wearing a piece of cheese on its head that you keep close by.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just keep a little souvenir. He's just a little Packer cheese head guy from the, what's it called, freaking, um, whatever. From some store in Eau Claire. Local store. It's called the local store.

• 1:14:17Drew Afualo?

  The local store.

• 1:14:17Speaker 02

  It's like my favorite little guy. And then I, I sometimes gift it to people. Like, I gifted Aiden, um, who was in the American High, like, sketch group. I gifted him like a little shirtless guy, because they're all like unique carvings from like a local artist. So I was like, they're just sweet little guys. They're just my sweet little guys.

• 1:14:33Drew Afualo?

  I love that Amanda wrote in parentheses, a Packers fan wearing a piece of cheese on its head.

• 1:14:37Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:14:37Drew Afualo?

  But I am familiar with cheese heads.

• 1:14:39Speaker 02

  Cheese heads.

• 1:14:39Drew Afualo?

  Obviously.

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:40Drew Afualo?

  Is your dad a big Packers fan?

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, like Packers and like, oh, that's not Wisconsin. I was gonna say the Cardinals. That's not, that's Arizona. He likes the Cardinals, but, and the Brewers, whatever. But yeah, they're all, everyone's Packers, but I'm like, I like, I don't know anything about football.

• 1:14:55Drew Afualo?

  I don't care.

• 1:14:55Speaker 02

  I know discount double check from the commercials, but like, he's not even on the team anymore.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  Oh, but Shailene Willie dated Aaron Rodgers for a little bit.

• 1:15:04Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 1:15:05Speaker 02

  That's what I know.

• 1:15:06Drew Afualo?

  Aaron Rodgers is also like cuckoo bananas insane.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:15:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he's, he's.

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  He's like anti vax, right?

• 1:15:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, big time.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  Okay, cool.

• 1:15:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's what I. But he's like, he's one of those where it's almost like I have a bunch of sports jokes in my head. I just don't think you're gonna really care for them.

• 1:15:23Speaker 02

  Not know that. I will not.

• 1:15:25Drew Afualo?

  He's basically experiencing a very insane form of CTE in my, in my opinion.

• 1:15:30Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:15:30Drew Afualo?

  I, I think so. I, well, I would like to think that's why he's going insane.

• 1:15:34Speaker 02

  Me, me trying to.

• 1:15:35Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:15:36Speaker 02

  Again, recall with the, with the physical.

• 1:15:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:39Speaker 02

  Do quarterbacks, they get hit?

• 1:15:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:15:41Speaker 02

  Cause people come and get them.

• 1:15:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, they come and tackle them, but he's just insane and awful.

• 1:15:46Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:15:46Drew Afualo?

  Uh, Aaron Rodgers.

• 1:15:47Speaker 02

  Who's the quarterback now on?

• 1:15:50Drew Afualo?

  On the Packers?

• 1:15:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:52Drew Afualo?

  I couldn't tell you.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  Right, yeah, see.

• 1:15:54Drew Afualo?

  It's, you know what's funny is I worked at the NFL, uh, right before COVID and I, yeah, I did. I, I, I did sports for a very long time and I, I worked at the NFL and then I got fired and then COVID hit. And then I started making TikToks.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 1:16:05Drew Afualo?

  Um, but when I was working at the NFL, how I got in was like, obviously I was like, I was doing sports journalism. I was doing communications, like all that stuff. I had a big, uh, reel. I had a lot of clips of like me writing and whatever. Um, and I had a big story I did on, on a really famous quarterback, like that got me the job essentially. But when I was applying for it, you had to, there's like a lot of rounds of interviews you have to do. And there was, um, one round I had to do where they just test your football knowledge, like. And I don't know if they still do this. I don't know if they only do it to women. I have no fucking clue. I would like to think they don't only do it to women, but I wouldn't be surprised. So they basically got me on a call with like four people and they're asking me questions about football.

• 1:16:49Drew Afualo?

  And it's not even just the game of football. It's everything. So players, coaches, teams, trades, draft, like college a little bit. Like, how much do you know? Like, what are some top storylines? Like, what are some trades that happen in the off season that you think are impactful? Blah, blah, blah. So I knew, I knew this was part of the interview process. Like I knew, they told me. I didn't know just how detailed it would be, but I assumed it would be. So what I did was I asked my husband who played football for fucking ever. And then he didn't want to go to the NFL. So, but he watches football and just knows a lot about it. And having played, he has like a higher IQ than like the average fan who's never played. So I literally sat down with him and asked him a fuck ton of questions. I wrote down every single thing he said.

• 1:17:33Drew Afualo?

  And I tried to cover as many bases as I could. And then when I did the interview, it was on the phone. So obviously they can't see me. And so I was just reading, I was just reading everything.

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  Oh, nice, nice, nice.

• 1:17:45Drew Afualo?

  But I was improv-ing it to sound like, oh God, that's such a great question.

• 1:17:48Speaker 02

  Some filler words.

• 1:17:48Drew Afualo?

  I guess I just, I guess I would say Clay Matthews, like I just started talking like that. And when I tell you I blew their fucking socks off, bitch, like.

• 1:17:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:59Drew Afualo?

  And low key, I cheated my way in that shit and I don't give a fuck.

• 1:18:02Speaker 02

  Okay, they all cheat.

• 1:18:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I don't fucking care. I don't care. I was like, maybe it's women in STEM. Maybe women are smarter.

• 1:18:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. Also, I'm sorry, all that stuff you can look up.

• 1:18:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:12Speaker 02

  You can look up all that stuff. You have to know that right now.

• 1:18:14Drew Afualo?

  And they would like, I, I wish I, to this day, I remembered what it was, but the guy who ended up being my boss, he actually asked me a question and I answered it in a very unique way, I guess to them, like because.

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  Wait, this was on the call or in person?

• 1:18:26Drew Afualo?

  On the call.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:18:28Drew Afualo?

  And he was like, wow, that's so interesting. Why, why that? And then I explained what my husband said. None of these thoughts were my own. And I said, and then he was like, God, that's such a good point.

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, shit.

• 1:18:39Drew Afualo?

  And then when I actually got the job, he was like, you know, I talk about your interview a lot.

• 1:18:44Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:18:46Drew Afualo?

  Right. But it's because like what he told me was something that only someone who played football for a long time would know. That's why, but I just was resourceful.

• 1:18:55Speaker 02

  Okay, smart.

• 1:18:56Drew Afualo?

  So like, look at, that's why I was like, listen, listen.

• 1:18:58Speaker 02

  And then I guess I, like, I'm glad they didn't like interview you in person again. Like, thank God they were just like, well, I guess it's iron. Yeah, she did. The, the phone one was good.

• 1:19:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I ended up doing an in-person interview, but that was just more so about the job at that point.

• 1:19:11Speaker 02

  But they're like, let's not do the quiz here.

• 1:19:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no, they literally, they literally like gate check you. Like at the gate, they're like, well, first off, do you know anything about fucking football? And then they let you in.

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  Name five touchdowns.

• 1:19:22Speaker 02

  Name five touchdowns and three baseball players.

• 1:19:25Drew Afualo?

  My sister, who is a lesbian, I mentioned at least once every episode, when she told me, one of the funniest things she ever told me was like, she knew she was unpacking her internalized misogyny and therefore finding out she was gay. Because one of the first things she let go of was football. Like she's like, oh my God, when I didn't have to pretend to like football. A dream. When I don't have to pretend anymore. Oh my God.

• 1:19:46Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, but as a straight woman pretending to like foot.

• 1:19:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like she was a straight woman pretending to like football.

• 1:19:51Speaker 02

  Oh, I see, I see. Because that's like.

• 1:19:52Drew Afualo?

  But when she found out she was gay, she was like, I fucking hate football and I don't care about it.

• 1:19:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:56Drew Afualo?

  I don't care at all.

• 1:19:57Speaker 02

  My God, be, be free. Watch rugby.

• 1:20:01Drew Afualo?

  Uh, last fun fact. Uh, she wants me to ask you if you remember your very first Instagram post. And it's, it's.

• 1:20:10Speaker 02

  I have a feeling because do you have it?

• 1:20:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:12Speaker 02

  Okay. Is it a video or like a picture?

• 1:20:13Drew Afualo?

  It's a picture.

• 1:20:15Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:20:15Drew Afualo?

  It's from April 27th, 2013.

• 1:20:18Speaker 02

  2013, April 27th, 2013. Now this, okay. So there's, I can vividly see like the last grid. Okay, here's some thoughts. One, is it me eating a cookie with my friend Katie while she's playing The Sims?

• 1:20:34Drew Afualo?

  You, hon- honestly, I think so, but you're not eating a cookie in the picture.

• 1:20:37Speaker 02

  Cookie? Maybe she made cookies. Is it just me like this?

• 1:20:39Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:20:40Speaker 02

  With Katie? Are you serious? Oh my God, I remember we would like, when we would sleep over, yes, yes. We would play The Sims and it would piss me off because it's a single player game and she'd be playing it. And I'd be like, okay, my turn, my turn, my turn. I'd be like.

• 1:20:54Drew Afualo?

  Literally, it says the caption is playing Sims.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:20:59Drew Afualo?

  You don't remember anything?

• 1:21:01Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:21:02Drew Afualo?

  You remember it almost like.

• 1:21:03Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I'm scrolling back there just to make you. I'm scrolling back there. I'm like, eh, yeah, some of those I'm like, we should start archiving those.

• 1:21:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:11Speaker 02

  I'm like that, we don't need to see that.

• 1:21:13Drew Afualo?

  I know. I, I've had that before on like some of my early stuff.

• 1:21:16Speaker 02

  There's some really good ones down there. There's me like, there's some like, like, aren't I true? And I'm like, we gotta get it.

• 1:21:22Drew Afualo?

  No, you're so me. I used to feel that way about The Sims too. I hated playing with others. Cause I was like, this is a single player game.

• 1:21:27Speaker 02

  This is a single player game.

• 1:21:28Drew Afualo?

  And you're not playing right.

• 1:21:29Speaker 02

  No, yeah. Like you're not doing it right. And also like, let's just cheat.

• 1:21:33Drew Afualo?

  You're not. Yeah. Oh, I cheat all the time. I use those, that motherload cheat code, please.

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  Motherload.

• 1:21:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, motherload.

• 1:21:39Speaker 02

  Did you have, okay, wait, what? Did you have like a specific town you like to live in?

• 1:21:43Drew Afualo?

  Um, I'm forgetting the names, but yes.

• 1:21:47Speaker 02

  There was always one, I, Appaloosa or Plains or whatever.

• 1:21:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I always lived in one that had a lot of more buildings than anything. Cause I liked to be able.

• 1:21:55Speaker 02

  Life one?

• 1:21:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. Oh, I loved that one.

• 1:21:56Speaker 02

  The city one?

• 1:21:57Drew Afualo?

  City.

• 1:21:57Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, okay, yeah.

• 1:21:59Drew Afualo?

  That expansion pack. I also got the college one too. I talked about this recently and I picked her goal to be like, to have 10 boyfriends at the same time.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  Yes. Oh, my God, yes.

• 1:22:08Drew Afualo?

  Doing shit like that.

• 1:22:09Speaker 02

  Yes. No, my Sims were Wuhan major.

• 1:22:11Drew Afualo?

  Oh, big time. I joke a lot about how like, when I would play Sims, I low key was like, I was low key following this trad wife trend, but like unintentionally. But I would like, I would like marry her and then if it, to the richest person, I'd evict the family that was in the biggest house. And then I would, and then I would marry her to either the richest person or make my own husband. I would get her pregnant. I would send him to work because I just don't care about him and I don't care what happens. Every time he'd come home, I'd send him.

• 1:22:36Speaker 02

  And his outfits, the randomized outfits.

• 1:22:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like, don't care, don't care.

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  Like the townies wear.

• 1:22:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. So then I would like, I would make her have children and then I would have her raise them. And then I would get animals too and raise them. And I would like develop all her skills. Like I would have her be a really good pianist and like get in the best shape ever. And then also like, I'm like her experiencing life and having these children. And then I would raise them. I would marry them off and then I would do the same thing again. But every time the husband came home, I'm like, go fucking do something. I don't need to see you.

• 1:23:04Speaker 02

  Have six jobs.

• 1:23:05Drew Afualo?

  Be gone.

• 1:23:06Speaker 02

  Have a part-time job.

• 1:23:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  And also like get back.

• 1:23:08Drew Afualo?

  Go for a run.

• 1:23:09Speaker 02

  Make, make the piantines in the basement and we'll sell them for like $500. Yeah, I was doing, I was doing that. I was doing that.

• 1:23:16Drew Afualo?

  That was probably, and now I think, cause I don't want kids, um, like in my real life. Um, so I think that's where I was exercising that feeling. I was like, well, I could do it this way.

• 1:23:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, same. No part of me like wants to have children.

• 1:23:28Drew Afualo?

  No, that's why I was like, but here I could do it.

• 1:23:30Speaker 02

  Like my friends' kids and being like, see you later.

• 1:23:32Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, I love being an aunt.

• 1:23:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:34Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my God, I love.

• 1:23:35Speaker 02

  I'm like, that's just kind of like fun.

• 1:23:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's always fun.

• 1:23:38Speaker 02

  But I'm, I'm just. I'm like, ugh, like, cause when I don't wanna do something, I wanna do something. But like, you can't not wanna like change a diaper.

• 1:23:47Drew Afualo?

  It's not an option when you're a parent.

• 1:23:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:49Speaker 02

  I'm like, you can't, you have to do it.

• 1:23:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're in it.

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  And I'm like, oh, wait. I wanna go see a movie. Let's go see a movie.

• 1:23:57Drew Afualo?

  What if I wanna see a movie?

• 1:23:58Speaker 02

  What if I wanna see a movie and what if I wanna take a nap? What if I wanna take, what if I'm on my fourth nap of the day? That kid's on a different sleep schedule.

• 1:24:05Drew Afualo?

  It's just never gonna work.

• 1:24:06Speaker 02

  It's never gonna work. I just really don't think, I just really don't think, no. Which is fine by me, more vacations.

• 1:24:12Drew Afualo?

  More Sims.

• 1:24:13Speaker 02

  More Sims.

• 1:24:13Drew Afualo?

  More Sims for me.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  I'll have my kids in Sims.

• 1:24:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:16Speaker 02

  And maybe a dog, maybe.

• 1:24:18Drew Afualo?

  Maybe, maybe. I, I have two dogs, so dogs I recommend, yeah. I have two Frenchies.

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  Oh, love. I like, I like pugs. Are you, do you think those are ugly?

• 1:24:26Drew Afualo?

  I love pugs.

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  Okay, good, cause some people.

• 1:24:27Drew Afualo?

  I think pugs are so fucking cute.

• 1:24:28Speaker 02

  I had, I had two pugs growing up and then when they passed, we got two new ones.

• 1:24:31Drew Afualo?

  They do get very scary when they get old. Cause I had a friend who had two pugs for a long time. They lived forever. I think she took really good care of them. They lived for like fifteen years, but like when they get older, they're white and scary.

• 1:24:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:24:43Drew Afualo?

  They turn white, like.

• 1:24:44Speaker 02

  When my dog died, my dad posted it on Instagram and I was like, is Tank dead? And he was like, yeah.

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  And I was like, oh my god. It was like a picture of him just like, like, just like, he was like, and yeah, and it was like.

• 1:24:59Drew Afualo?

  Just checking in.

• 1:25:00Speaker 02

  Yeah. It was, and I was like, man, he's, and he's dead, I guess. And he's like, yeah, so Tank's dead. Yeah, if you're reading this. And then my sister was like at work, so they were just updating the family group chat. Yeah, Molly, if you're reading this, Tank's dead. And we're like, oh my god, okay. But yeah, no, towards the end, they get, they're just those little old guys.

• 1:25:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I do love a pug though.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  I love a pug. I love Frenchie too, those are cute.

• 1:25:19Drew Afualo?

  They're, they are like, you blowing them a little too hard, something bad will happen. Like, they, they are, yes, they're fucking fragile as fuck.

• 1:25:26Speaker 02

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 1:25:27Drew Afualo?

  They eat anything, they'll die. Uh, they go in the sun for too long, they'll die. Uh, they can't swim, they can't even really breathe that well, yeah. No, I know, and I, I literally got like for both my dogs, I got them both fixed and I got them, uh, like, I keep calling it a rhinoplasty, but like, they literally.

• 1:25:43Speaker 02

  With the, they breathe?

• 1:25:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they have to like open their nose holes more and then cut down their soft palate.

• 1:25:48Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 1:25:49Drew Afualo?

  I, I, yeah, you don't even wanna know how much that shit costs.

• 1:25:50Speaker 02

  It's like these dogs like, okay, well, we have to like intervene in this way, like.

• 1:25:55Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's why I was like, I, I did that so they'll live longer and, and for some reason, my Frenchies are enormous. Like, my Frenchies are really big and I.

• 1:26:03Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 1:26:04Drew Afualo?

  And I, that's been proven to me. Every time I see a Frenchie in the wild, I'm like, why does mine?

• 1:26:09Speaker 02

  Cause it can breathe.

• 1:26:10Drew Afualo?

  My, mine's ten times bigger than that one. Like, yeah, cause Frenchies are so small naturally. I, mine are like this big and heavy and like literally.

• 1:26:18Speaker 02

  Do you think it is because of the surgeries?

• 1:26:19Drew Afualo?

  Honestly, I don't know. I think it's because I, like, when I took, uh, cause I fostered my second one, we adopted my first one, we, I fostered the second one and the second one is completely deaf. When I took him to the vet, um, he was saying both these Frenchies are bred very well, like really well. And it's, I don't know if it's cause they're huge, I have no clue. But literally my first Frenchie, his name is Squid, um, Squid and Tuna. Those are my two dogs.

• 1:26:40Speaker 02

  Oh my god, that's adorable.

• 1:26:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so Squid went to the vet for like a checkup a couple of months ago and she was like, yeah, he's a little big, like he needs to lose some weight. My Frenchie was forty-eight pounds. And I'm, and I, and I'm not, he's not obese. I can't stress that enough, he's not obese.

• 1:26:55Speaker 02

  Like, he looks good.

• 1:26:56Drew Afualo?

  And even she said, he's just a big boy, like, he's, he does need to cut down a little bit. He's a proper weight now.

• 1:27:01Speaker 02

  But they're like, like, long, but like, like, they're not just like, yeah.

• 1:27:04Drew Afualo?

  And even like, we had a guy come to our house to, to fix our air like a month ago and when he came, he saw my Frenchies, like, they were in like, we'd call it a parlor, but like the doors were closed, so they don't bother him. And they were just watching him and he goes, are those Frenchies? And my husband goes, yeah, they are, they're, he's like, like full Frenchie? And he goes, yeah, he goes, those are the biggest Frenchies I've ever seen.

• 1:27:27Drew Afualo?

  He's like, I thought they were Bulldogs and like, or Pipples. And I was like, I don't know, they're full Frenchie. I don't know what the, I don't know what the hell. I just keep joking that I have two Samoan Frenchies, cause I'm Samoan and so is my husband.

• 1:27:38Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh.

• 1:27:38Drew Afualo?

  And they're just huge naturally. I was a huge child. Obviously, I grew him in my womb and gave birth to him, so.

• 1:27:44Speaker 02

  Obviously, Squid and Tuna.

• 1:27:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:46Speaker 02

  So Squid and Tuna, my babies.

• 1:27:47Drew Afualo?

  My biological children.

• 1:27:48Speaker 02

  My biological children, I mean, look at them.

• 1:27:50Drew Afualo?

  Well, I support your pug dreams.

• 1:27:52Speaker 02

  Thank you, thank you.

• 1:27:53Drew Afualo?

  If you got a pug, what would you name it?

• 1:27:54Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, I don't know. We have, so we have two now that are Charlie and Otis, like back home in Wisconsin. Those are super cute.

• 1:28:01Drew Afualo?

  I love human names for dogs. Oh, I love when they're so human.

• 1:28:04Speaker 02

  Just like a regular. Just a regular, hey, I'm Charlie. Just a little Charlie guy.

• 1:28:08Drew Afualo?

  Cute.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  But I don't know, I actually haven't thought of like a pug name, cause honestly, I'm like, no way I'm having a dog in the city. I'm like, I'm likely like, that'll be maybe later.

• 1:28:18Drew Afualo?

  That's real.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:28:19Drew Afualo?

  In New York especially.

• 1:28:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, no.

• 1:28:21Drew Afualo?

  Floors are so gross. I think about people having dogs and bringing them in the house and letting them on the couch.

• 1:28:25Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, I'm like, wait, their paws are touching the city floor and then they come inside.

• 1:28:29Drew Afualo?

  I know, it's like, you guys don't even wear slit, like flip flops out in the city, but you're gonna take your dog out there.

• 1:28:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then they're like walking and poop.

• 1:28:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:37Speaker 02

  And also like, like, I, I take my shoes off, I take my shoes off before I like go in my house too, and I'm like.

• 1:28:42Drew Afualo?

  No, for real.

• 1:28:42Speaker 02

  And I'm like.

• 1:28:43Drew Afualo?

  When my sister lived in New York for a bit, like when we would get off the subway and go in her apartment, she would like sterilize my whole body before I got to go anywhere.

• 1:28:50Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, some people are like, don't even sit on my bed.

• 1:28:51Drew Afualo?

  And I have to change my clothes.

• 1:28:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:28:54Drew Afualo?

  This is too much for me, I can't do this.

• 1:28:55Speaker 02

  No, so a dog, no. I guess you could just wipe their paws.

• 1:28:59Drew Afualo?

  I guess.

• 1:29:00Speaker 02

  I guess you could do that, but then it's like, that's another thing I don't wanna do.

• 1:29:05Speaker 02

  That's another thing I'm like, ugh, ugh, cause as soon as, as soon as I get home, I'm taking my clothes off, putting my inside clothes on.

• 1:29:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:29:12Speaker 02

  And I'm like, and then I have to like wipe this damn dog's feet too.

• 1:29:16Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:29:16Drew Afualo?

  You're not at that phase yet.

• 1:29:18Speaker 02

  No, and maybe I'll grow into that.

• 1:29:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we're at the celebrity crush phase right now. That's where the, that's the phase we're at.

• 1:29:23Speaker 02

  I'm at the point where I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just, I'm, you know.

• 1:29:27Drew Afualo?

  I gotta put me first.

• 1:29:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm, I'm putting me first, I'm.

• 1:29:30Drew Afualo?

  Which is a good thing.

• 1:29:31Speaker 02

  You know, dissecting my inner monologue, I'm, I'm there. I think you don't have to run for a dog.

• 1:29:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and that's okay.

• 1:29:36Speaker 02

  Maybe a dog would heal me though. Maybe a dog would heal me.

• 1:29:38Drew Afualo?

  Maybe when you come out of this next phase, then you get a dog.

• 1:29:41Speaker 02

  Okay, next phase. Okay, okay. Next phase, I'm entering the next phase, do you think soon?

• 1:29:46Drew Afualo?

  I think right now, I think you're in it.

• 1:29:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:29:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, currently.

• 1:29:49Speaker 02

  Oh my god, okay. Holy shit. Oh my god, I'm in the next phase.

• 1:29:52Drew Afualo?

  And I'm, I'm excited for you.

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  Okay, whew.

• 1:29:54Drew Afualo?

  And I, I'd like, just to kinda wrap us, like, I would love to know if you have any advice for any like aspiring artists, like anyone who really wants to get into comedy, acting, sketch, anything like that, that you've already been working on and doing really well in, do you have any advice for anyone?

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  I think finding a community really helped me.

• 1:30:14Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's really good.

• 1:30:14Speaker 02

  Because I think, like, my friends growing up, I think had similar aspirations, but like, I think when I like got to American High and like met other people who were like really driven and like dedicated to like the craft, I was like, whoa, okay, this is inspiring and this is like, this is making me also wanna like step up.

• 1:30:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:32Speaker 02

  So I think like finding your community is really important, um, just to like even hold you accountable and like, and also just, yeah, and to be inspired by them to see like what they're doing.

• 1:30:41Drew Afualo?

  Bounce stuff off of, that kinda thing.

• 1:30:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably that and then, I guess, yeah, I don't know. I guess like all the problems you have, like everyone else has too.

• 1:30:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:55Speaker 02

  And it's just kinda like, some people are just, I guess, working through it.

• 1:30:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, just getting out of your own way kinda thing.

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  Which is really, really hard, so.

• 1:31:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:31:02Speaker 02

  So be nice to yourself, like be nice to yourself and like, you'll figure it out, but like find your people, find your, find your group.

• 1:31:08Drew Afualo?

  And it helps when you're unbelievably hilarious like you.

• 1:31:11Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, thank you. It helps when you, yeah, I guess, yeah, you're sort of a light, as you say.

• 1:31:18Drew Afualo?

  Your words, not mine.

• 1:31:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, you go, your words are mine, I'm a light. I'm a light and I guess I can, you know, just get any man I want. That's what I'm learning from that.

• 1:31:26Drew Afualo?

  And you're, you're, you're wincing when you say it, but you will believe it.

• 1:31:30Speaker 02

  No, yeah.

• 1:31:31Drew Afualo?

  You keep saying it enough, you'll stop, you'll stop grimacing when you say it.

• 1:31:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, because I, I, and actually, it's like, actually, you know what? Yes, no, we're doing it because I had this idea recently where I was like, there's all these like fat funny guys who are like pulling, like that, um, Stravos or what it was.

• 1:31:45Drew Afualo?

  Stop, Stop Me Baby, yeah.

• 1:31:46Speaker 02

  Stop Me Baby, I'm like, when I like, when I like saw his roster, I was like, what the fuck?

• 1:31:49Drew Afualo?

  You have no idea who that guy's taking down.

• 1:31:51Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:31:53Drew Afualo?

  You have no idea what kinda pipe that dude has laid.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  Yes, I'm like, I'm gonna start faking it until I make it, I'm gonna start.

• 1:31:59Drew Afualo?

  Grace, that's what I've been telling, when I tell you, when I tell you, that is my main message on my platform, you could get anyone. And men are sluts. Men are whores. They're easy. So like, it's, they're easy, trust me.

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  I don't know if I'm a slut or whore though, that's the problem. That's the problem.

• 1:32:17Drew Afualo?

  Porque no los dos.

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah. So I mean, yeah, there'll be a slut for me, but I'll be like, I'll be like, I'm not kissing you till the fifth day.

• 1:32:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you get your pick, you get your pick of the litter.

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

  Okay, work it, Miles Teller, look out, I'm coming for you and your wife. But, yeah.

• 1:32:33Drew Afualo?

  You better look out.

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Look out, here I come. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, yeah, soon I'll be on podcast and I'll be like going through all my exes and they'll be like, what? They'll be like, no way. And I'll be like, yeah, whatever, I don't know.

• 1:32:45Drew Afualo?

  Whatever.

• 1:32:46Speaker 02

  Whatever.

• 1:32:46Drew Afualo?

  Light work.

• 1:32:47Speaker 02

  It was Paris. That's what you do. That's what you do at Fashion Week in Paris.

• 1:32:51Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:32:52Speaker 02

  And I'll be like this, I'll be like this all the time.

• 1:32:56Drew Afualo?

  So nonchalant.

• 1:32:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I can't, yeah, I mean, just so nonchalant, so relaxed. This woman, this woman doesn't know where she is.

• 1:33:04Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:33:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's like.

• 1:33:05Drew Afualo?

  Well, I think, I, I believe all those things about you. I, I really do think you are so uniquely funny and so special and I'm so happy to see that you're walking in your purpose, like which is being an entertainer.

• 1:33:19Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:33:19Drew Afualo?

  And I think that's beautiful and I think it's wonderful too that you have this vision of also doing it with your friends. Like, I, I have the same exact vision and I, I think that you're someone who is so unique that you're gonna transcend, like, every single thing that you've ever thought you could do, you can do way more. So I'm really happy.

• 1:33:35Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, wow, thank you so much.

• 1:33:37Drew Afualo?

  You're welcome. And I'm really, I'm really happy and excited to see that you are now being recognized on the scale that I think you deserve to be. It's only up from hair growth.

• 1:33:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:33:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:33:47Speaker 02

  Well, I'll check back in like, in, in like a couple of years.

• 1:33:50Drew Afualo?

  Your next promo season, yeah?

• 1:33:52Speaker 02

  My next promo season, I'll be like.

• 1:33:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, when you're on your Oscar run, you come back.

• 1:33:56Speaker 02

  I'll have to fill you in, that's what happens. And I'm pulling no punches, I'm telling you at all.

• 1:34:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, period.

• 1:34:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:04Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:34:04Speaker 02

  Period. And I'm telling you everything with receipts. We have, we have the premiere picture receipts. I'll give you.

• 1:34:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:12Speaker 02

  And your receipts.

• 1:34:13Drew Afualo?

  Of hookups. Yeah, the receipts will just be nudes, though.

• 1:34:15Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:34:15Drew Afualo?

  Of all the people you hook up with.

• 1:34:17Speaker 02

  I'll be like, and this is illegal, of course. And this is illegal, but I'm just showing you. What do you think? That one? Whoa. And this one, you think, whoa.

• 1:34:28Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming on.

• 1:34:29Speaker 02

  Oh, my gosh.

• 1:34:29Drew Afualo?

  I fucking love you.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  For having me.

• 1:34:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course. It was amazing and incredible for the maybe two people on YouTube that haven't found you, don't know where to find you. Where can everybody find you?

• 1:34:40Speaker 02

  You guys, check me out on Instagram, Grace Rider. Um, well, on Instagram, Grace Rider one, Grace Rider on YouTube. And yeah, check out our minimum wage TV show. It's on Netflix.

• 1:34:51Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:34:52Speaker 02

  And then, yes, and then you can watch, um, The Hunger Games But Better right now. And then Twilight But Better, it's either out now or it's coming out pretty gosh darn soon. So enjoy that.

• 1:35:03Drew Afualo?

  I'm sure you'll see it. I'm sure. There's no way you won't, especially with how well The Hunger Games won did.

• 1:35:10Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:35:14Speaker 02

  And I also did do a decode cover. I did do a decode cover, so that's coming out. That's coming out.

• 1:35:20Drew Afualo?

  I'm happy to hear it. I liked it. I like when you say you get nervous when a man touches your leg, but you'll do that. You'll, you'll riff, you'll do a little, a little run for me.

• 1:35:28Speaker 02

  I know, but that like isn't like. That's not like showing someone my vagina. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:35:34Drew Afualo?

  It's the vagina of sorts. You're being vulnerable. Yeah.

• 1:35:38Speaker 02

  It's my soul vagina. I just showed you my soul vagina.

• 1:35:41Drew Afualo?

  And, and be thankful.

• 1:35:42Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 1:35:43Drew Afualo?

  Be grateful.

• 1:35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll be grateful.

• 1:35:47Speaker 02

  She's on her phone.

• 1:35:49Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, guys.

• 1:35:51Speaker 02

  Sorry, I have to go. I'm getting the light. I'm getting the light.

• 1:35:56Drew Afualo?

  I'm so glad you got to see Grace Rider's soul vagina, obviously with me. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for coming on. I think you're fucking awesome. You're so funny. And thank you all so much for tuning in. Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming channels, but the video list for free and exclusively on our favorite channel, YouTube. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Grace. Thank you so much to all of you, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

• 1:36:19Speaker 02

  Bye.

• 1:36:31Speaker 01

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