MARY BETH BARONE IS SICK OF KEEPING SECRETS (Ft. Mary Beth Barone) | Episode 234

The iconic Mary Beth Barone is BACK on the show this week! Drew and Mary Beth talk about being outnumbered by straight guys at dinner, IUDs, finding sisterhood in a workout class, their lash extension phase, the time Mary Beth made an FAQ pamphlet before a first date, and so much more. Watch Mary Beth’s special, Galaxy Brain, out now on Netflix! Follow Mary Beth on IG: https://www.instagram.com/marybethbarone/?hl=en Follow The Comment Section on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/?hl=en Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:45Speaker 00

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• 1:00Drew Afualo?

  Congratulations on your IUD.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love the thing. I mean, we fight like sisters, but...

• 1:13Drew Afualo?

  Hey everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show starring me, your fave, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guests. Today, we have another all-star, the one, the only, the iconic, the hilarious, Mary Beth Barone.

• 1:29Speaker 02

  So good to be back in this chair.

• 1:32Drew Afualo?

  First time in the chair, good to be back in the chair.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  First time in this chair, in this space.

• 1:36Drew Afualo?

  In this space, watch this space, by the way.

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I'm wondering if every guest comments on your engagement ring or not?

• 1:41Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 1:42Speaker 02

  Because it was right there. And I just feel like I have to say, like, it's really good.

• 1:46Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. It greeted you before you greeted me.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was like, okay, we have to address the elephant in the room. It's a really good ring. Did you help design and pick out? Really?

• 1:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I feel like people think I'm making that up, but I swear to God, I'm not.

• 1:59Speaker 02

  Well, I know you're not a liar.

• 2:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, unless I lie.

• 2:03Speaker 02

  And then you are.

• 2:03Drew Afualo?

  And then I am a liar. And that's just, it is what it is.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  It's between you and God.

• 2:07Drew Afualo?

  It's the few joys that women get out of this life. I think it's okay.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  I wish I lied more. I just have this Catholic guilt where I just don't do it. And I think I could have a little fun. I'm just like...

• 2:17Drew Afualo?

  That's big Catholic working on you.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  It would be crazy for me to just like, say something that's not true.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  Like, I just can't. I can't even picture it.

• 2:26Drew Afualo?

  No, you can't.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  Maybe I'll throw a lie in this week.

• 2:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you have to mix it in there.

• 2:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, just see if I can get away with it.

• 2:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but to answer your question, no, I did not have any hand in designing it. He had been working on it for months before he proposed to me, which is crazy because we do everything together, or most things together. So like, I didn't even know he went and talked to my parents. I didn't know he was like building the ring.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  What else is he hiding?

• 2:50Drew Afualo?

  I don't know.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  He could be up to no good.

• 2:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, so you can hide things from me very well.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  He's probably designing more jewelry for you.

• 2:56Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm gonna tell myself every time I have a question.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  No, I love him. I love your love. I like, every time you guys post a photo together, I'm just like, this is what we're all here for.

• 3:06Drew Afualo?

  This is why we showed up today.

• 3:07Speaker 02

  That's why we're all, every day we get up, go to work, it's for stuff like that. So I'm really happy for you.

• 3:13Drew Afualo?

  Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, it's, he was one, I would say, of the rare ones, obviously. And it's just a plus that he looks like that. It's just kind of a bonus.

• 3:24Speaker 02

  Could knock you over with a feather. Beautiful couple. Well done. We're all rooting for you.

• 3:31Drew Afualo?

  See, this kind of reminds me of this, so it's a weird pivot, but like, I loved you at Globes. Obviously, I saw you at Globes.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 3:38Drew Afualo?

  Right before. You did have a spot in the center of the sun, so I'm proud of you.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 3:42Drew Afualo?

  You persevered. You couldn't even tell how hot it was right there.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I'm a cold person. I run cold. I turn purple when I'm cold. And I told him, like, if the AC's on on the carpet, I'm turning purple. They're like, I don't think you have to worry about that. Because they erected like a tiny city.

• 3:56Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 3:57Speaker 02

  And there was no ventilation.

• 3:58Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I was sweating.

• 4:00Drew Afualo?

  They said, there's no need for airflow in here.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  But my feet hurt so much, I actually didn't even think about how hot it was.

• 4:04Drew Afualo?

  Oh, wow.

• 4:04Speaker 02

  So it was fine.

• 4:05Drew Afualo?

  Maybe that's the key, then.

• 4:06Speaker 02

  I think the key is to have something worse happening to you. Yeah, and then you won't even notice. And the dress was really tight, so I couldn't breathe that much. It was fine. It was great, though. It was good to see you.

• 4:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it was good to see you for like, those like, two seconds.

• 4:17Speaker 02

  That might be the last time I saw you, which is really sad.

• 4:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that is really sad.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  That was months ago.

• 4:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's not fair. I've been good. How've you been?

• 4:24Speaker 02

  I've been pretty good.

• 4:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was, I want to compliment you on Globes because I thought you fucking killed, which is obvious. And I'm sure you know that. But one of the best ones I think you did was with The Rock, who I recently had on, but you said, can you pick me up?

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:37Drew Afualo?

  And he was like, in what regard?

• 4:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I thought, whatever, honestly, whichever one. Whichever one you're open to. It's totally cool by me.

• 4:45Drew Afualo?

  And you're like physically, and he said, oh, yeah, easily.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  With one hand. And if I wasn't wearing a beaded dress from 1994, or if, it might have been 93 or 94, I would have had him do it then and there. But I thought, he's so strong that he could actually crush the beads, probably.

• 5:01Drew Afualo?

  That's true.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  And then the stress, it will no longer.

• 5:03Drew Afualo?

  He'd launch it to the moon. We'd never see you again.

• 5:05Speaker 02

  But that's actually what I want. I talked about this in a few interviews.

• 5:08Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 5:08Speaker 02

  For press for the special, is that I would love to get launched up there, no suit, and just see how far I can get. Before I just can't breathe anymore.

• 5:16Drew Afualo?

  Out of the atmosphere.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  I asphyxiate.

• 5:18Drew Afualo?

  What do you think you're, you're looking at, like, time-wise? If you had to give yourself your best guess?

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Less than one second. I have no resilience physically. I'm like, I just would, it's instant, I'm gone.

• 5:28Drew Afualo?

  Or what if you're so paper-thin and like, fragile here on earth, but up there, you're even stronger?

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Invincible.

• 5:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, what if up there, you're Wonder Woman?

• 5:36Speaker 02

  And then I just hit the moon. And I'm like, cool, I'm just gonna hang here. I'd be fine with that. Don't send a rescue mission, I'm good.

• 5:42Drew Afualo?

  No, it's all right.

• 5:43Speaker 02

  I want to see what's up there.

• 5:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you should.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  An ex-best friend of mine once said, like, people talk about wanting to go to space, but like, we're in space, we're in the VIP section of space. Because like, Earth is space. We're one of the planets, you know? So it's just, we don't think about that enough. And we're not grateful. And this is why I'm here, is to talk about gratitude. Thank you.

• 6:02Drew Afualo?

  And what else are you feeling grateful for? Your special coming out.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  My special.

• 6:05Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I do want to talk about galaxy brain. I would love to know how it feels to have like, a big special coming out, like, because obviously, you've been working in comedy, and I think you're fucking hilarious. And I'm so happy for you. But how do you feel about everything?

• 6:18Speaker 02

  It's so crazy when things start going a little bit well. You're like, well, I'm gonna get hit by a car soon. And I'm just glad I did the special and we recorded it, and it's in post, it's done, it's gonna be on Netflix, even if I pass away between now and then. But it feels good. It feels like the right time. Obviously, I'm an extremely impatient person, so in the life cycle of a career, I've been like, wanting things to happen faster.

• 6:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  But I think things happen at the right time. And this is, this is all the things I wanted to say on this big platform, and just see who gets mad. And I have some ideas of who it might be. But it's usually...

• 6:51Drew Afualo?

  You're awesome. Hopefully.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  It's not the people you think, usually. It's not the people you think. So I'm really excited to have it out. And I, I hope that the girls and the gays enjoy it, because that's really who I did it for. And, and the outfit is exactly what I wanted it to be. And that's not, that's not nothing.

• 7:07Drew Afualo?

  That's the most important, that's the most important part, I would say.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:09Drew Afualo?

  More important than your hilarious jokes.

• 7:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's about the aesthetic, because some people might watch it on mute. You know, you have no idea. And then they'll get to it.

• 7:16Drew Afualo?

  You are that beautiful, though. That is a very common thing that happens to you.

• 7:20Speaker 02

  Thank you. I realized my outfit today looks like I survived a nuclear blast. I'm like, ripped jeans and a ripped shirt, it's a bit much.

• 7:27Drew Afualo?

  Holds as far as the eye can see.

• 7:29Speaker 02

  It's comfortable, though. So, yeah.

• 7:31Drew Afualo?

  I think you look chic.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 7:32Drew Afualo?

  I think you look beautiful and amazing. And I'm very, I would love to know, like, where did you, first off, where did you get the title galaxy brain? I would love to know that.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Yes, so that comes from, my, actually, it wasn't even me. My brother brought this up in our family group chat one time, how many microwaves there are in the world. You never see the same one twice in two houses, right? Which is kind of crazy to think about. So I talked about that on my podcast, and that's why I have a podcast, and you guys listening, don't. So, we always say that on Ride. It's just so we can talk about stuff like that. Someone commented on the video being like, this is so galaxy brain, or like, called me galaxy brain. I'd never heard it before. And then I just really felt, I like, I identify as that. And it's, it's, I guess the formal definition is, when you say something that sounds smart, but it's actually dumb. And with the special, I think it comes back around. It's actually so dumb, that it becomes smarter.

• 8:20Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I love that. You know what? People are just not operating on the level that you're operating.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  That, and I want to blow their minds. And I do think some of the ideas I put forth in the special, like, how to fix the country.

• 8:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  People are gonna be like, I just would have never thought of that. So I can't wait.

• 8:35Drew Afualo?

  Maybe it is that simple.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  I, you'll see.

• 8:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  My first special, I suggested to fix the country. We needed another 9/11. No one acted on it. So, we'll see if, if we gather around for this.

• 8:47Drew Afualo?

  Let's see if you guys pick up these golden nuggets this time. Let's see.

• 8:50Speaker 02

  We hope so.

• 8:50Drew Afualo?

  I guess we'll see. I, and honestly, I love, I love the concept of, I guess, like, an insult, where they're like, that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's meant, but parentheses complimentary.

• 9:02Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  You know?

• 9:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and it's like, or, or you just never thought of it.

• 9:06Speaker 02

  You just never thought about it.

• 9:07Drew Afualo?

  And now you're being a hater.

• 9:08Speaker 02

  You're jealous of this brain of mine. And I'm letting you literally walk into my brain in the special. I think, I think people are gonna be like, everything she said makes sense coming from her. Wouldn't necessarily make sense coming from someone else. And that's, that's what you want. You want to say things that like, are so in your voice and point of view, which I feel like is something you do so well.

• 9:29Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 9:29Speaker 02

  And that's why, when I stumbled upon your first video, like, the first videos I saw of you just like, sort of ripping men to shreds, I was like, well, this is one singular voice. And people, as we talked about last time, love to try to copy you, rip you word for word.

• 9:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Just doesn't really work.

• 9:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're right. That's so true. It's like, it doesn't hit the same. And I get what you mean about, like, or, is it so dumb that it's actually smart? I actually have quite a few of things like that, that I've responded to before. Like, when men get really mad, speaking of my engagement ring, like, when I got engaged, like, because obviously, forever, it was like, he's never gonna marry you. And I was like, well, you guys are never factoring whether or not I want to get married, but obviously, you're not, because you think I'm stupid. And you think I would wait for a man. That's crazy. But when he did propose to me, then the goalpost moved. And then it turned into, oh, that they're marrying, he's marrying me for money. Which, about five of those years, I had no money, so I don't know how you count for that. But no worries. But I did say, why is it always money?

• 10:24Speaker 02

  But also, what a flex.

• 10:26Drew Afualo?

  Right, right. Yeah, I have a trophy wife at home.

• 10:28Speaker 02

  If he is, good for him.

• 10:29Drew Afualo?

  I got a pretty little thing at home, yeah.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  And good for you. If you're racking in the cash, you could have a trophy husband. Which, by the way, I think, I do think if we had more trophy husbands, the world would be a quieter place.

• 10:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, probably more peaceful, a little bit.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  Um, just, we gotta keep these guys busy. They need hobbies.

• 10:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they need an Amex, and they need to be let loose somewhere.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. And I guess a car. I don't know. If they're on good behavior. They get a car.

• 10:51Drew Afualo?

  And I even, like, when I said to, I was like, why is it always money? What if he's with me for my body, and then that's it?

• 10:58Speaker 02

  For your sweet, sweet...

• 10:59Drew Afualo?

  My snatch.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  The stuff you're putting down, throwing down in the bedroom.

• 11:02Drew Afualo?

  Literally, what if I have a Venus flytrap between my legs? What if he's purely using me for my body?

• 11:07Speaker 02

  I think that's...

• 11:08Drew Afualo?

  Then what?

• 11:08Speaker 02

  And you need to plant that idea in people's heads. I'm curious, are people reaching out to you about this via comments or via DMs?

• 11:14Drew Afualo?

  Both.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  They're saying, he's marrying you for your money?

• 11:17Drew Afualo?

  Yes. Both.

• 11:21Speaker 02

  I hope you read them curled up next to him in bed. Yeah, look at these fools.

• 11:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  They're so jealous of you. How does it feel? They're so fucking jealous of you.

• 11:30Drew Afualo?

  Feels good, honestly. How I feel is like, have you ever seen Snow White and the Huntsman?

• 11:34Speaker 02

  No.

• 11:34Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 11:35Speaker 02

  Do I need to see that?

• 11:35Drew Afualo?

  You should. There's a, it is starring Kristen Stewart and Charlize Theron. And Charlize Theron is like the evil queen. But when she like, you know, obviously she wants to be the most beautiful in the land. That's her thing. She brings young maidens to her. She grabs like the, their jaws like this. And then just sucks the youth out of them and gets younger. That's what I do to men. Like when men, when men feed me hate, it literally makes me more beautiful and more young. So it kind of works out.

• 12:02Speaker 02

  And it just, it doesn't even, it doesn't even like scratch the surface for you. You don't feel it at all, like the hate. God, that's incredible.

• 12:11Drew Afualo?

  Like not from them. I mean, I think the only kind of hate that ever really bothers me is like if it's nitpicky stuff and it's like about things that I'm like, okay, you know what I'm talking about and you know what I mean. Like it's, it's the bean soup kind of hate that bothers me. Uh, but everything else, I'm like, yeah, why would that bother me? Like if you have anything in your life that's better than everything I have in my life, then I'll change my mind, but I doubt it.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  I love what you do because I think there's this idea that if you get like a mean comment or criticism, like you shouldn't respond to it. But I'm like, if you can dunk on them so hard that they actually block you and maybe even delete their account, you absolutely should say something.

• 12:48Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah. And I, and I weaponize it often. I, I would say now I use it a little bit more like, I would say, what's the word? More democratic about it. Like I'm a little bit more eh, like I guess I'll let you live. Even some dudes that I've, I've fucked up recently. I'm like, I let you live the first four times you talked about me. I did. I let you live and here you are pissing me off again. Now I gotta do something about it.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  Now you have to decimate.

• 13:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, unfortunately now your account's gonna get overrun or it's gonna get deleted or you're gonna delete it. I've had men DM me after and ask me to please take down my video because they like work somewhere and it might get them in trouble.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  They work somewhere?

• 13:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  Likely story. Why do you have so much time then to be mean to women on the internet? Maybe you should go to work.

• 13:29Drew Afualo?

  I think about what you told me on the last episode we filmed together. Where I asked you if you've ever gotten like unsolicited advice on your jokes. And you were like, oh, yeah. And you said that someone followed you out and said, why aren't you writing this down?

• 13:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:44Drew Afualo?

  You said, why would I, why would I do that?

• 13:47Speaker 02

  Why would I write this down? You're a stranger to me. And you're not a comedian. You're an audience member. Get the fuck out of my face. I'm wearing Stuart White's stilettos right now. Get the fuck out of my face. No, I know.

• 14:01Drew Afualo?

  Get out of my fucking face.

• 14:03Speaker 02

  When you have milestones, I feel like you do reflect a lot on like all of the shit that you've been through and like all those moments where you just like had to be like, I'm gonna continue doing this anyway.

• 14:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  And I'm just glad that none of that ever really deterred me. And what, for me, it's hard because like I know that the, especially like for actors, they don't have this like conversational relationship with their audience. So people are like, oh, you don't have to respond to stuff. But I'm like, I like to respond.

• 14:26Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  It's content for me.

• 14:28Drew Afualo?

  You're telling me.

• 14:29Speaker 02

  And sometimes I get DMs, like the closing joke in my special.

• 14:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Someone who, who had seen the hour DM'd me and was like, actually, so women and gay guys giving me joke pitches, I'm so here for.

• 14:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  But this girl was like, oh, my friend and I were at your show and we had this idea of like one other word you could add to the punchline. And I was like, wait, that's such a good idea. And then I went back and I found them and I messaged them recently and I was like, I just want you to know like that ended up in the special. Um, so sometimes there is like, you know, there's good stuff in there.

• 14:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  So I just don't want to like completely swear off of it, even though maybe someday I will. It's just like, I don't know. There's, there's so many different ways to navigate it and I think you just have to do what is right for you. And sometimes reading the comments, like I, I can't read Reddit anymore. I have blocked it on every device, but sometimes it, it does the bad outweighs the good, but for right now it's, it's fruitful for me.

• 15:15Drew Afualo?

  I feel you about Reddit. Like they, I had, they have wanted posters in my face on that website.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:20Drew Afualo?

  They hate, I, for when I still had a Twitter like years ago, I made my Twitter like header. Um, a post I saw about myself on Reddit when I was like first blowing up on TikTok and it was like, does anyone know that bitch on TikTok named Drew Off Wallow? And there was just one singular upvote.

• 15:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:37Drew Afualo?

  And I thought it was the funniest thing I had ever read and I made my header forever because it was like, that bitch on TikTok, but you knew my full name.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  And one upvote.

• 15:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And it was probably him and I was like, this is funny.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  People on Reddit shouldn't know about us.

• 15:50Drew Afualo?

  No, I agree.

• 15:51Speaker 02

  They just forget we ever existed because we're not for that platform really. We're for, we're for, um, front of the camera.

• 15:57Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:58Drew Afualo?

  And I feel like Reddit could be used positively for like, when I have like, something's wrong with my plumbing. Or like when I had a Prius, like I would go on Prius Reddit all the time and like look up problems with my Prius. I'm like, well, let me look this up on Reddit.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:13Drew Afualo?

  But now that I do this, I'm like, yeah, I don't, I don't need to be going on that website.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  It should be a resource for that. Or if you have like a weird mark on your hand and you're like, is this cancer?

• 16:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  But it shouldn't be for like, let's kill someone.

• 16:25Drew Afualo?

  Like, or, or it's just like, yeah, like snark threads on Reddit. Like I find those to be the most unemployed shit I've ever seen in my fucking life.

• 16:32Speaker 02

  Say it with your chest.

• 16:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Make a, make a video about it.

• 16:35Drew Afualo?

  Exactly what I think every time too. I almost, and it's al, and it's always because you know that this is so not rooted in anything real. It's just purely like, I just don't like them.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:45Drew Afualo?

  And I've said before, like, you could just say you don't like me. That's okay. Like it's not illegal.

• 16:51Speaker 02

  By the way.

• 16:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Oh my God. By the way, if you want to hate me, you, you could have a field day.

• 16:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  You could have a field day with the shit you can say about me. Performative, virtue signaling, white feminist, fake bisexual, center's men. What else? It's like, have fun with it.

• 17:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. At that point, you're just gonna say it anyways. Whether or not it's true, it doesn't even matter anymore. Like we've, we're so far past that at this point.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Oh, but the worst is, and I hate to bring this up because we brought it up on Ride too. Someone said that Benny and I tipped 10% at Lurfish Bar. And I was like, that's actually something I won't stand for.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  Cause that's just not true.

• 17:28Drew Afualo?

  You could say whatever you want, but don't say that. That's not fucking true.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  Say that.

• 17:32Drew Afualo?

  Don't fucking say that.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  That's really damaging.

• 17:35Drew Afualo?

  I agree. I agree. And I, I feel the same way about the, the performative aspect of it as well. Uh, because I'm like, you guys don't even know what that fucking word means anymore. And also you guys encourage virtue signaling when you harass people about stuff.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 17:48Drew Afualo?

  So you, you actually like virtue signaling until you don't.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  Until you don't.

• 17:52Drew Afualo?

  And you just kind of change when and where it happens. But I've said before that like, that kind of negates the whole point of philanthropy to me is documenting every single good deed you do. It's important that you document your beliefs and where you stand. I believe that to be true. But documenting every single thing is so not real.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Well, it's not the point.

• 18:10Drew Afualo?

  Well, and I'm like Jake Paul filmed himself giving a homeless person a haircut and now I have to suffer for it. Like what the fuck? Like now David Dobrik gave a Tesla to some random dude on the street. Now I have to be like Mr. Beast. Otherwise people are gonna think I don't care about anybody but myself.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  Well, that, that's insane that those two are setting the bar.

• 18:26Drew Afualo?

  That's my fucking point.

• 18:27Speaker 02

  No, it's crazy. I mean, what I try to instill in people is I'm not posting that stuff to, so people think I'm a good person.

• 18:33Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  I'm posting it because I actually want to share information.

• 18:35Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 18:36Speaker 02

  Or sell tickets. That's gonna benefit something or whatever. Get people to donate money. It's really not, it's like I have so many white women following me who don't know, who don't know, and they don't know what, where to put their parents' money.

• 18:46Drew Afualo?

  Same.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  So I'm like, let me show you.

• 18:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. This is a great way to, great way to start.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  It's a start.

• 18:51Drew Afualo?

  This is a great, uh, transition though to your comedy because that, that was something I wanted to compliment you on because I think it's really beautiful and amazing that you can work in uh, causes that you care about, activism that you care about, that's important, that's topical, that's relevant to now. The way that you can effortlessly like weave it into comedy, I think is a beautiful thing. And I think it's a singular thing to you in a lot of ways. So like, I'm curious, like where did you start with that? Is that something that you kind of grew to as a comic, as you like evolved as a comic? Or was it something that you're like, this is something I want to make sure I work in from the beginning?

• 19:23Speaker 02

  I think it was always part of it, but I didn't realize it was always like technically political. Like when you first start, I think the instinct is to be really blue, which means like talking about sex and cursing and stuff.

• 19:32Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 19:33Speaker 02

  That's just like, it's easier. You don't know how to navigate difficult topics.

• 19:36Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 19:36Speaker 02

  But then from my first Comedy Central set, I talk about like being anti circumcision. And I didn't realize that that was gonna like galvanize people against me.

• 19:45Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  That it's in a sort of inherently political thing to talk about.

• 19:49Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Um, and so I just like to talk about things that are, that are important to me or that I feel strongly about, or that I see the like stupidity in almost. Um, so that's, that's always sort of come naturally, but then sometimes you get it wrong. Like sometimes you do a joke and maybe there's nuance to it or the audience doesn't necessarily, like it's just a little bit pushing it too far.

• 20:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 20:08Speaker 02

  Um, so you find those limits, but you have to find them through doing the jokes live, which can be tough. Or you get these comments online that are like, um, and I hate to keep talking about comments, but it is the comment section. Where people think just because you said a word that the, it's a joke about blank.

• 20:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, right.

• 20:24Speaker 02

  So like I have a joke about ICE making me pro NYPD. Cause like if ICE came through, NYPD would be like, no, these are our people. And if anyone's gonna shoot them, it's us. So that, then some people see that and they go, you're making fun of like people being murdered. I'm like, no, no, no, no. But this is, this is a joke about the police and it's a joke about ICE. I'm not making.

• 20:43Drew Afualo?

  It's a layered joke.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's not like, um, I'm not making light of what's happened. I'm just saying.

• 20:47Drew Afualo?

  Punchline is not murder.

• 20:49Speaker 02

  No, and it's just ridiculous that like, that is what the situation is. So I think it's always threading the needle with that. And sometimes you just think maybe this joke like isn't totally worth doing.

• 21:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  If it's gonna make people uncomfortable. And that's what I think about saying any, anything, right? Like people are always, I don't know, people get caught up in this whole idea of like, oh, we can't say these things anymore. And it's like, you can actually say anything.

• 21:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  You can say, there's really no laws.

• 21:14Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 21:15Speaker 02

  You, about that.

• 21:15Drew Afualo?

  And you're going to, a lot of bad comics do it.

• 21:18Speaker 02

  They do it all the time.

• 21:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  And so it's this idea that like, anyone can say anything that they want. It's just like, how are you gonna make the other people in the room feel when you say that?

• 21:26Drew Afualo?

  Right. Exactly.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  Some people don't care or they want the shock value or whatever it is. And so for me, it's like, I don't, I don't want to make the girls uncomfortable. If it's making straight guys uncomfortable, that's fine.

• 21:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  But I don't want to, I wouldn't want to make like, I always want to feel like I'm punching up.

• 21:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally. Absolutely. And I think you do it effortlessly, which I think is beautiful. I think that's why your comedy can span, um, ages as well, like including young people. Cause I feel like that, like you said early, like what you just said about not being able to say anything. Like I've, I talked about that once because I, and like I'll decide if I want to bleep the name, but when I fucked up online, that was one of my biggest sets of videos, honestly. And he, and I'm gonna tell you a story about meeting him.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm, I'm like, where's the popcorn?

• 22:11Drew Afualo?

  And he like, when I made videos about it, like, obviously I had a bunch of his fans, like, his who love him, coming in my shit and being like, you can't fucking say anything anymore. And I was like, do you really think, like, just use your dumb bitch brain for a second, do you really think that women, let's just use women, have never heard a misogynistic joke in their life? Maybe it sucks. Like, maybe the joke is ass, maybe you're bad. Maybe you're not a very good comic, maybe that's what the issue is.

• 22:38Speaker 02

  There's a lot of, people give a lot of leeway for, for offensive jokes if they're funny. That's what I have found.

• 22:43Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  And so even still, sometimes I'm like, maybe not worth it, but if the joke is good, or it's a nuanced take, or something we haven't heard before. There are plenty of misogynistic jokes that I think are funny.

• 22:54Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Cause they're well-written thoughtful jokes.

• 22:57Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  It's just, yeah, people like to come to that defense of, of like, well, you know, it's free speech and whatever, and it's like, he is saying that publicly. No one, he's not being arrested. I just, I can have whatever reaction to that that I want.

• 23:09Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And I can also just think it's just not funny.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  Right.

• 23:12Drew Afualo?

  People are allowed to be offended, and I can also think it's not necessarily offensive, it just sucks.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Right.

• 23:17Drew Afualo?

  Like, that's why I was like, I wasn't offended by it, it just was, it was bad.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  And it's, and it's actually a disservice to the audience to even put that in front of them, cause now they're dumber for having laughed at it.

• 23:26Drew Afualo?

  So everybody loses.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  And that's on you.

• 23:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. And when, and when I met this man, I met him at, uh, Globes, like, my very first Globes was just two years ago. And I was like, in this spot, like, and I had like a news station next to me, and this other girl next to me, who I won't say who she, who she is, but she's amazing, and I love her. I loved both my neighbors. And she works for like, this website that does a lot of like film critic reviews, so it's very serious, so she gets a lot of big talent that goes to her, cause they want her to like, post them. And she's been doing it for years, like, she's a seasoned vet on these carpets.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:00Drew Afualo?

  And this was my first time meeting her. So this guy's publicist comes up to us, like halfway through, he's like, do you guys wanna talk to X, right? And, uh, both me and her were like, I'm good. The lady next to me though goes, yeah, sure, why not, right? So he comes over, does that one next to us, walks to me, the publicist goes, yeah, these two, these two also wanna talk to you. I just said no, twenty seconds before this. So then I went, no, I don't. And he didn't even look at me, he didn't even engage me.

• 24:31Speaker 02

  It was you?

• 24:32Drew Afualo?

  What do you mean?

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Like, he knew, he knew it was you?

• 24:34Drew Afualo?

  He knows who I am, yeah. I'm very certain he knows who I am. I think he's afraid of me, pussy. So anyways, so he, I go, no, not me. He goes to the girl next to me, she goes, I also said no, right? And then he, with her, gets offended, right? And he goes,

• 24:52Drew Afualo?

  okay. You know, you could've just said no, you know that? And he starts raising his voice, like he's trying to like cause a scene and embarrass her, like humiliate her. And then he goes, you could've said no, okay? You could've said, like, uh, I think implying to the publicist. To which she goes, I did say no, you should ask him. And I'm, and I'm just watching like this, the whole time, I'm not even engaged in this, and then he goes, okay, alright, she goes, I did say no, you can ask him. Thanks. And then she just goes on her phone. He walks away, humiliated, like, he was so embarrassed, he stopped interviews after that, went inside.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  Wow, you shut, you shut it down.

• 25:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, but even like, when he walked away, I told that girl, I said, I think you're my fucking hero, girl. And we started laughing, and she goes, well, what the fuck, you're trying to pressure me into interviewing you? No, I'm not going to. Oh, I'm laughing. And I go, man, he's probably gonna yell at his publicist, and then the guy next to me who's doing the camera, he goes, he is, look at him. We looked over, he's like,

• 25:55Drew Afualo?

  like, I only see his back, like, he's

• 25:59Drew Afualo?

  pissed the fuck off.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  That's a beautiful tableau.

• 26:02Drew Afualo?

  So angry. That ding dong does not need to be on that website.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  But also, don't like make press uncomfortable. Like, don't insult press. That's, that's insane. That's an insane move.

• 26:11Drew Afualo?

  And that's where I think, like, when he was standing there, looking at her, and she was, she, to her credit, gave him like an out, like she was pretending to look at her phone, he could've easily moved on.

• 26:20Speaker 02

  Just move on, bro.

• 26:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and then he was still standing there, and I think he thought that she would find him attractive, and then just be intimidated into doing it.

• 26:29Speaker 02

  Well, as I say in my special, male comedians are some of the worst people that we have.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Netflix let me say that.

• 26:36Drew Afualo?

  Some of our worst soldiers.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  And I know that might sound like hyperbolic, it's not. They're not just bad, but then they have microphones. Think about how dangerous that is.

• 26:46Drew Afualo?

  They can document their thoughts, and post them to the internet.

• 26:50Speaker 02

  And people then like buy into it, and then sort of echo those thoughts. So it's like, if you have the opportunity to be good, to do good in the world, or do that, like, why are you choosing that?

• 27:02Drew Afualo?

  It's like the looks maxing thing, um, that whole trend. And it's very funny, because it's like, it's just men discovering what women have known for centuries, which is that looking better, um, kinda gives you a leg up.

• 27:15Speaker 02

  Cause they go, I'm cooked, like, I have nothing to improve here.

• 27:18Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  For, for however many years men have been alive, they've thought, this is as good as I can be, and I'm good. And now they're suddenly, it's like, cool, what? We've been wearing makeup since we were five, like,

• 27:30Speaker 02

  just, just go away.

• 27:31Drew Afualo?

  When they discover that looks are probably a huge factor in how people treat you. And now we should start caring.

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 27:38Drew Afualo?

  Cause they've discovered it.

• 27:42Drew Afualo?

  Give them a hand.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  It's so interesting, I don't interact with straight men that much, it's just, it's just not something I would do.

• 27:48Drew Afualo?

  No, same.

• 27:49Speaker 02

  And sometimes I find myself, especially when I come out to LA at tables where it's like, you know, maybe four straight guys, a gay guy, and then four girls. And the, the places the conversation goes is so weird. And I'm just like, this is what happens when you have an imbalance at the table. Women need to be leading conversation.

• 28:07Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  Straight guys leading conversation, and it, I, I'm not gonna say what, I'm not gonna say what was being discussed on Friday. I don't wanna put that on the listeners, and I don't wanna put it on you, and your mom's in here, so I'm not gonna bring it up. But I just, this is the second time in LA I've been in a dinner where there were more straight guys, they outnumbered any other demographic. Just,

• 28:29Drew Afualo?

  That's horrifying.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  It was really bad.

• 28:31Drew Afualo?

  And I'll give you an antithesis to that. I took a workout class last night with my girlfriend, it was very fun. It was bar method, for those wondering. And it was my first time ever doing that kinda class, and it was all women, obviously, it's like six of us, female instructor, having a bla, a blast in it, I was having so much fun. At the end, we did like a lot of stretching, then she turns off the lights, and she was like, let's do some breathing, and we're like breathing, and we're like reaching up, and reaching down, and all that, and she's like, speaking all relaxing, and then she's like, so let's like, take a deep breath, let's nam, hold our hands in the namaste pose, and let's thank ourselves for showing up today. And I was like, I was almost moved to tears. I was like, you know what, being a girl fucking rocks, that's what I was saying.

• 29:13Speaker 02

  I would never wanna be a guy. Like, I've been thinking about it more recently, I'm just like, I don't wanna, I don't, being a woman can be really hard, but you have those beautiful moments, where, especially in workout classes.

• 29:24Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 29:24Speaker 02

  That are mostly women, and I think there's just a lot of freedom in that.

• 29:28Drew Afualo?

  There's, oh my gosh, and I was like, I literally seen that, I was like, I fucking love you ladies, just met them all.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Totally, that's, well, those are your sisters.

• 29:36Drew Afualo?

  Those are my sisters.

• 29:37Speaker 02

  That's your family.

• 29:38Drew Afualo?

  That's my, that's my literal blood.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  And that's what is so, I love my crowds so much at shows, and after, like, any stand-up show I host with other comics on it, they'll comment to me how nice my crowds are. Venues will tell me how, that it's the best dressed crowd they've ever seen. And it's just such a like, it's just so many girls, to the point where, um, at my taping, it was sort of like, almost like a Charli XCX concert, where like, the line for the women's room was like down the block, and then there was two guys in the men's room. So my mom went in there, um, with her friend, and my mom said to the guy, she loves telling this story, she goes, well, I, I'm a nurse, so I've seen more penises than a prostitute, don't worry about it. And fully just peed in the men's room.

• 30:16Drew Afualo?

  That, that one kills every time.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  That one kills. And I was just like, cool, that's my mom saying that, probably to two gay guys.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  But I'm sure they loved it.

• 30:25Drew Afualo?

  But no worries.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  And that's the ratio, that's the ratio that I want.

• 30:28Drew Afualo?

  That's the ratio. I, I was gonna ask about your taping, like, how did that feel? Doing your taping like live, like?

• 30:32Speaker 02

  So surreal.

• 30:33Drew Afualo?

  Like, did it feel right? Were you nervous at all, like?

• 30:36Speaker 02

  So nervous. I mean, you have two, we, we recorded, we did a dress rehearsal show, we, we shot the cold open that day, and the ending, and then I had two filmed performances to really nail it. And it's, it's almost good that like, you, that's just all the footage you have. You know, you don't get seven takes, you get two takes of each thing.

• 30:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  And that's what you have to work within, and it's sort of a challenge to like, edit it together, like, this joke was better from the early show, but like, the continuity doesn't match, so how are we gonna compromise? Um, so it was really cool, like fun, creative challenge, but it's good for my control issues too, cause I'm like, this is all we have. This is the, this is the footage that we have.

• 31:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  And we have to, we, I wanna cut it together in the most beautiful way possible. And it's, it's interesting, like, some of the jokes that night were the best I've ever delivered them, and then some jokes weren't, and it's like, but it was live, and my instinct is like, cut every flub and make it sound perfect, like it's a play or something, like a very rehearsed play. And my producer, Dan Powell, who works, he owns Irony Point, he was like, what I found with the specials is that you don't want them to feel overly sanitized. Like, part, part of what's cool about it is that it was a live experience, and you want the people watching at home to feel like they were in the room. So that was really helpful to hear, cause my instinct is always to try to be a perfectionist, and with art like that, you just, you can't. Like, you have what you have, and that's it. Until we start doing AI specials, which of course I will never do.

• 31:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:54Speaker 02

  But it was, it was good.

• 31:55Drew Afualo?

  And that's how you know it's not an AI special.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 31:57Drew Afualo?

  Because, yeah, that's how you know that shit was real and live.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  It was real and live, and you can tell, cause there's a couple of like little, you know, just live moments that like,

• 32:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  That you can't, that are sort of like out of your control. Um, but I was, the taping was like a dream come true, it was so fun. And when I was done, oh my god, it felt like, it was the best feeling in the world. Cause I love when performing is over. And it's crazy, I've made it my profession. Cause I'm like, when is it over?

• 32:20Drew Afualo?

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• 35:51Speaker 02

  Having my family there was so beautiful. All my siblings were there. Even the one that lives in Australia, she came to the taping. And it was just so nice. It felt like a, well, it's interesting, too, in this industry, like, every finish line feels like a starting line. Again, so it was like, yes, we had taped it, but I knew we had this post-process ahead of us. And I actually had an after-party because I've had a few milestones where I didn't really celebrate them after. And it's like, why am I not making a big deal of this?

• 36:16Drew Afualo?

  You're so me. I do the same thing. You're kind of speeding past it to the next thing.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Literally. I'm like, I did two sets on late night, and I just like, just like, went home.

• 36:25Drew Afualo?

  That was the first time I watched your stand-up, actually. It was when you were on Fallon.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. But I went, I literally went to eat dinner in Union Square with one friend, Sydney Washington, and then I went home.

• 36:33Drew Afualo?

  I love her. She's great.

• 36:34Speaker 02

  And she's the best. And that's my work wife. But I was like, I should have maybe like, had like, a group dinner or something. So now with this one, I'm, I'm like Bridezilla.

• 36:42Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I'm so glad.

• 36:44Speaker 02

  I have a bathhouse meet and greet in Williamsburg. I'm doing dinner with my high school friends on the Tuesday, and then I'm doing a huge dance party at $3 bill.

• 36:50Drew Afualo?

  I saw.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  Friday. I'm so fucking pumped.

• 36:53Drew Afualo?

  I'm so excited for you. And I'm happy to hear that you're like, actually celebrating yourself. It's a huge fucking feat.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  We have to celebrate these wins, especially because everything sucks ass. Like, if you zoom out, like, even a little bit. So it's just nice to be like, this is a win for the girls, and we're gonna...

• 37:10Speaker 00

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• 38:09Speaker 02

  Just like commemorate it.

• 38:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's fucking incredible. I'm so excited for you. Do you think you're gonna do another special?

• 38:15Speaker 02

  I have some thoughts for another special.

• 38:17Drew Afualo?

  I'm getting ahead of, I'm getting ahead of it because I already know I'm gonna love.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  You're showing me. I've like, I've already been planning it. I have the Google Doc. I'm like, I know what it's called. I know what I want the ending to be. And I have a little bit of the material, but of course, like, the idea of writing another hour is a little daunting.

• 38:31Drew Afualo?

  I know. I genuinely don't know how you guys do it. I truly, even just memorizing a five was just so taxing to me, so I can't even imagine an hour.

• 38:40Speaker 02

  It's mental illness.

• 38:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. It's like, and especially the way that you're telling me about it is like, the perfectionist of it all. Oh, girl, I can't even imagine.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  It can be stressful, but you know, you practice it a lot, and then you're just like, whatever happens again on the day is just like, what is meant to be, to be captured.

• 38:57Drew Afualo?

  I'm so excited for you. Tell me about the look for Galaxy Brain. I really want to hear about the look. I know it's a paramount part of it, obviously, and you look stunning.

• 39:04Speaker 02

  Thank you so much.

• 39:05Drew Afualo?

  So I'd love to know about the look.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  Well, we wanted, I wanted the set design to look like I was in space, of course, Galaxy Brain. And then my DP and the director, Kai Newman, had come up with this idea that we would do a reflective floor, so that you could actually, when you were zoomed out, the floor also looked like it was stars. So it looked like I was kind of floating, which was really cool. And then for the dress, I worked with Weiderhoff, Jackson Weiderhoff. And we met, we met to discuss the vibe, and my references were the dress in The Little Mermaid when she walks out of the water at the end.

• 39:37Drew Afualo?

  Great one. Sparkly and blue.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  And it's like poured over her because it's a cartoon. And then another cartoon, Megra from Hercules.

• 39:44Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 39:45Speaker 02

  So, and Jackson is so amazing at corsetry, of course. So we knew we wanted to do that. So we used a silhouette from a previous look that he had designed, but we wanted to make it our own. So we added some beading in the shape of the Gemini constellation, because I'm a Gemini. And then I was really dead set on it being lilac. And so that was a really hard color. They couldn't find anything in the right shade, so they custom dyed it multiple times.

• 40:10Drew Afualo?

  Why lilac? I'm so curious.

• 40:12Speaker 02

  Something about it, and then against the red shoe, I just felt like, I know the dress in Little Mermaid is technically like a blue color, but I just really love lilac.

• 40:20Drew Afualo?

  I know. It looked beautiful. I was just so curious, why lilac?

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. It just was like, I was just like, I want a really light purple. I think it's so feminine, the color.

• 40:29Drew Afualo?

  That's tea.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  And so I, I wanted this look to be extremely feminine.

• 40:33Drew Afualo?

  That's so beautiful. And you nailed it. And guess what? You nailed it. And also, I know, Ride, you guys are back in better, better than ever.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  We're definitely back. We're a little tired.

• 40:46Drew Afualo?

  I was gonna say, you and your work wife, Benny.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Yes, we're back. We, we came back and we're having fun. I think like, I'm sure, or I don't want to put words in your mouth, but sometimes maybe having a podcast, it does feel a little bit relentless.

• 40:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yes, of course.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  Because it's like, you just did those episodes, now you have to edit them and then put them out and then do more. It's like crazy. It's...

• 41:06Drew Afualo?

  Just never ending.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  It's like eating. I'm like, when's it gonna stop? Can I go one day without like, doing a podcast episode?

• 41:14Speaker 02

  It's really hard, so um but the break was perfect for us. We last season when we were filming overcompensating, we were doing episodes on the weekends and we just really started to resent. There on our days off. So we took.

• 41:27Drew Afualo?

  We're being overworked, obviously.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  And feeling like we have nothing funny to say. So we took a nice long break and now we're back and it feels like it was the right time. We miss like, we also but on the flip side, when you're used to putting stuff out every week and then you go to putting nothing out. And you're really like rebuilding and getting stuff ready to be put out. It feels like, I don't know, there's like a void or something. Probably more mental illness.

• 41:51Drew Afualo?

  Or just a creative outlet that you guys were utilizing or over utilizing at one point. To the point.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  It's nice when something happens in a week and you're like, I can talk about that next week.

• 42:00Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I feel that.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  Like a checklist of like a hundred things that happened that we had to catch up on. So our first episode was just a catch up.

• 42:06Drew Afualo?

  Which is what you need.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  Which is what we need. And then the second episode is what we ride for, which is uh Benny rode for banana singular and I rode for having wet nails.

• 42:16Drew Afualo?

  Having wet nails? What are wet nails?

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Like wet ones, once you painted them.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  When you get extensions, they're not really wet. But there's something really freeing about having a wet manicure where you just can't do anything. You're like incapacitated. You're like a baby.

• 42:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're you're baby.

• 42:32Speaker 02

  I couldn't even pee in the toilet right now.

• 42:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're baby girl.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  I'm baby, I can't unbutton my pants.

• 42:37Drew Afualo?

  And his was banana?

• 42:38Speaker 02

  Banana, yeah, which it makes sense when you hear it.

• 42:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't have any further questions. I believe you. And that's a great transition to overcompensating. So I know you guys just finished season two. How exciting. How did it feel?

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Fucking exciting. It was so fun to go back and having already done a season, you really know the characters. You can just sort of drop in and there's more room to play, I think, because you you like know, I knew Grace so well and I was in the writer's room as well, so just seeing everything come to life is so cool. When you pitch a joke in the room and then you see it being delivered on set and then you know, hopefully it ends up in the edit, but even just ideas for like set pieces and it was so fun to see like Benny's vision come to life and I feel really lucky, like grateful.

• 43:22Drew Afualo?

  That's amazing. How did it, how's it feel? Like, is there a difference in feeling when you write jokes for TV versus when you write for stand up?

• 43:28Speaker 02

  Well, stand up is fun because you could just do it that day. One of the jokes in the special I wrote that day and it ended up being in the trailer. I was just like, this is the final joke. The final joke. And then for TV, it it's much more of like a delayed gratification, but it's fun when it really pops, like the Puth XCX thing was so fun because that was written in script once and then I pitched to Adam to do it a second time at the table read and then Benny was on set when during the breakup scene with Peter and Grace. And he was like, say Puth one more time, rule of three, and then it was like XCX, you know.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  So that that's obviously like just an incredible feeling.

• 44:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I bet. I mean, I can't even imagine like, how did you guys feel after overcompensating like came out and then was like so well received, rightfully so? But like, I'm sure it was nerve wracking in the interim, like waiting for it.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  Well, no one really prepares you for the feeling of when things are out and nothing changes. Like, it's really this like emptiness you walk around with for a few days where you're like this thing that was like so many years in the making, so much planning, so much effort, it's out and best case, people love it. Like, that was an incredible feeling, but it's it's this weird balance of like, it's it's a success, but my life is still the exact same. And so I I think talking to other people who've put out like long form stuff like that, it was really good to just have those friends who were like, did you feel empty after or is it just me? Or will I just never be satisfied? But I think that lack of satisfaction is like what drives people like us. It can be, sometimes it's really good to stop and smell the roses, as they say.

• 45:03Speaker 02

  And a lot of moments on set and even at the taping and when we handed in the final cut to Netflix, like things are good, be grateful, like acknowledge that. Cause you can just let things fly by and you're like, what's the next thing? What's the next thing? But it's it's good to just acknowledge when you have like a win like that.

• 45:20Drew Afualo?

  No, totally, especially um especially a special like that is just like the end road for so many comics, like that's like the ultimate, ultimate goal. And especially having it on Netflix is amazing.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  I think it probably compares to having a wedding where afterwards you're like, it happened. All this planning, every call, every Lynn and I picked out, every flower and then it's over and all the food's gone and all the booze is gone. It's the next day and it's like, I think some people from what I've heard do like go into a state of depression after their weddings because they're just like, they had that huge thing to focus on. I'm sure you'll be fine.

• 45:53Drew Afualo?

  Thank you.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  I I have a feeling because you have you have a lot going on.

• 45:56Drew Afualo?

  That's true, I do.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  But yeah, it's sort of becomes your identity for a time and then it's like you put it out into the world to be consumed. And with short form or posting jokes online, I feel like it's such a lesser extent because it's like, yeah, you it's just like, okay, I'm gonna put that out now.

• 46:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and it's like continuous.

• 46:12Speaker 02

  Just like free yourself from from the response, but for this, yeah, it's like scary, like people are gonna review it, you know?

• 46:20Speaker 02

  People won't think it's funny.

• 46:22Drew Afualo?

  And that would be crazy. And then they'd be wrong, but that's okay.

• 46:25Speaker 02

  I'm gonna show up at their house.

• 46:27Drew Afualo?

  And I have a plan for you.

• 46:30Drew Afualo?

  But that's so incredible. I'm like, I honestly, when I watch your stand up, like it makes me, it reminds me why I love stand up. Because it's like, stand up has been like my, one of my favorite art forms for years as a consumer, honestly, like just a viewer, because I love to laugh, obviously.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  I mean, it's crazy, but we do. And I think it's cool because like especially with this younger generation like my nieces, I don't know, when I was younger, I when you hear men talk about their career as as stand ups, there's it's like, I started when I was sixteen and I went to open mics and then I had this in college and then I started doing this and then I got an agent and it's like when I was sixteen, I did not think you could be a comedian as a job, like as a woman. So I just think it's nice that we are role models um to the next generation and we're great role models. I hope they do exactly what we're doing. It like, you can, you can do that as a job. You can be a funny woman and get paid for it. Which is really, really powerful.

• 47:24Drew Afualo?

  And I I think also one of my favorite things about you, just generally, you're like your existence online is like even no matter what you're doing, you're still being hilarious. So like I watched you, I think, was it the Your show? The which show did you go to? They said, why are you excited to be here? Uh why are you here? Or what do you want to say? You go, oh, I'm excited that I'm getting paid to be here.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, getting paid. Sometimes I'll pitch stuff and I go, they're gonna make me cut this. They were so game and I'm like, when brands let us, I'm sure you feel this too, do our thing. First of all, I have respect for any brand that's gonna work with me because I'm not like the easiest sell probably to the higher ups.

• 48:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're telling me.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  Pretty mouthy, political, definitely offensive at times and I G, I'm like, if you're if you're convincing your bosses to work with me, like that's fucking cool. And then when they let me make content where I'm, it's not just self serious. That means so much because it's like, it still is true to who we are.

• 48:20Drew Afualo?

  I agree. And it's also like, I feel like too, when you get to that certain echelon where you start doing stuff like that, like going to fashion shows and stuff, there is like sometimes this thing where they just kind of drop personality entirely and then it's all business. I wanna let me be silly.

• 48:35Speaker 02

  Let me be funny. Eating a blush. Cause that's funny and it's, people are gonna watch that and wanna engage with it instead of just like a get ready with me that like, I personally just can't like do content that isn't true to who I am. I have done it before. And it just, it never quite fits right with me.

• 48:52Drew Afualo?

  I agree. I've I've said before, sometimes like when I do like commercials, sometimes they write lines for me that I'm like, this is like an SNL impersonation of me, but like a bad one. And it's a bunch of shit I would never say and I don't find funny and I'm like.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  But do they let you change it?

• 49:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I always ask. I'm like, do you guys care if I riff or just completely don't say that at all and say something else?

• 49:16Speaker 02

  So it's something completely different?

• 49:17Drew Afualo?

  They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, like however, yeah, sure, as long as this general thing, like all CTAs, I'll keep normal, obviously, but like you gotta let me. You gotta let me.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  You gotta let me put that Drew stamp on it.

• 49:29Drew Afualo?

  I I listen, that's why you hired me.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  Remember, oh my god, remember when you posted about having crazy tea? And you were like, this is my friend's reaction telling them crazy tea. And here's the thing about me, if I see some shit like that, you're getting a text. There is no way, even if you don't respond, it's like you missed Wayne Gretzky said this a hundred percent of the shots you did. I wanted that tea.

• 49:48Drew Afualo?

  I'm collecting it.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  And then I got a few voice notes.

• 49:52Drew Afualo?

  Yes, you did. And we had the same low key experience.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Literally.

• 49:56Drew Afualo?

  We did, you validated me.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  We were, we affirmed each other.

• 49:58Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  And that can be really beautiful.

• 50:00Drew Afualo?

  And I and I literally, I was like, and this is in regards to the tea. The straight women I know, like or women who are part straight, that have met them can sense the same fucking thing. Like, that's why I was like, and I, you know, who else was with me at that party at the time was my friend Bowman.

• 50:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Bowmanizer, yes, of course. And with him, I just did a time thing with him and we were talking in an interview.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  I meant to say when I sat down. Time creators.

• 50:32Drew Afualo?

  Thanks, guys. Thank you, Mary Beth.

• 50:34Speaker 02

  Fucking cool.

• 50:35Drew Afualo?

  Nobody here congratulated me, so thank you.

• 50:36Speaker 02

  Y'all are fired. Including mom. I'll be your new mom. Time is serious.

• 50:43Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, yes.

• 50:44Speaker 02

  It's not frivolous.

• 50:45Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 50:46Speaker 02

  A periodical.

• 50:47Drew Afualo?

  Yes, it is.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  It is like, it means something. That's fucking cool.

• 50:50Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, I appreciate that. And uh when we did an interview together for that, um we talked about that experience together. Like, obviously you didn't say what happened, but I was like, he he literally goes, I'll say this, there are people playing in your fucking face. And it's the truth. And I literally, you know, it's funny is you text me about that, a lot of people text me about it, but Caleb also texts me. Cause he was like, now who the fuck are you talking about? And I was like, girl, you're not gonna care.

• 51:17Speaker 02

  No, he probably wouldn't.

• 51:18Drew Afualo?

  You're not gonna, and he didn't.

• 51:19Speaker 02

  But he wants the intel.

• 51:20Drew Afualo?

  He just wants the in the intel. He's just nosy and greedy.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  We aren't commended enough for the amount of information that we have that we don't share. Having public podcasts. The shit that I know, the people that have personally disrespected me that I don't name first and last, I should be getting flowers from them every single fucking day. The members of Young Hollywood out there who have ghosted me. Who have not returned my personal belongings or who have had sex with me and then seen me somewhere else and not even said hi.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  You guys need to fucking know how lucky.

• 51:54Drew Afualo?

  You should be worshiping me.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  I actually, I went on a date. I went on a date and I said to this person, just so you know, if you disrespect me, I will name you on my podcast first and last. I said, I'm not fucking playing anymore.

• 52:07Drew Afualo?

  I don't have fucking time anymore.

• 52:08Speaker 02

  And I said, if that, if you wanna leave right now, you can go.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  I'm not putting up with it anymore. Fucking sick of protecting men from their own actions. Secrets for them.

• 52:20Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, don't. You shouldn't. I highly encourage you not to.

• 52:23Speaker 02

  And gay guys too.

• 52:25Drew Afualo?

  That includes you.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  Not just straight ones. So, think about it.

• 52:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I, I, I feel the same exact way, cuz that tea that we shared. I, for real, the tea that we shared, I for real was like, this would literally blow up the nearest guy, gay guy's house, or straight girl, cuz like, they're the only people who would give a fuck about that. I was like, I'm sitting on a golden egg of the most pointless information.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  You can't say shit.

• 52:52Drew Afualo?

  No, we can't, and it's just so, and I've heard many other things confirming that same exact thing. And I was like, ah, that's crazy. Thank god I'm a good person, imagine if I wasn't.

• 53:03Speaker 02

  And can I just say that if you ever see something about us in the news, just enjoy the gossip. Jesus Christ. Stop taking everything so seriously. Oh, you heard I was making out with someone at Cannes Film Festival? Why don't you send that to your friends and have a good day?

• 53:19Speaker 02

  Chill out.

• 53:20Drew Afualo?

  Relax.

• 53:21Speaker 02

  It's not so serious.

• 53:22Drew Afualo?

  It really isn't.

• 53:23Speaker 02

  I'm trying to help with like, culture. Trying to keep culture alive.

• 53:26Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying to keep it interesting, intriguing, you're fucking welcome.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Cuz we don't have, we don't have that many people, I think, in the public sphere who are willing to look stupid, or do crazy shit, or be like publicly a little bit messy.

• 53:37Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 53:38Speaker 02

  So I just think like, my, yeah, my request to the listeners is just like, just try to have fun.

• 53:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  It's just not all so serious.

• 53:45Drew Afualo?

  I know, and I, and also like, I think too, I'm sure you got tea at Globes, but like, that's also one of my favorite parts of doing this. Cuz even like, when I talk to like, hair and makeup people, like.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  They are the biggest.

• 53:57Drew Afualo?

  They are the big, and I, I'm always like, okay, who do we love, who do we hate? Who are we loving, who are we hating?

• 54:03Speaker 02

  And they have strong opinions.

• 54:05Drew Afualo?

  They always do.

• 54:06Speaker 02

  But I do, and I do think like, it would break, it would break the hearts of many. I'm like, I've, I've gone on dates with some of the internet's boyfriends. They're not fucking cool.

• 54:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and they have no personality.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  Here's something interesting. Every woman that I've met, who I have seen their online presence, is actually even more charming in person.

• 54:24Drew Afualo?

  That's true, yeah.

• 54:25Speaker 02

  Every man that I've met from the internet.

• 54:28Drew Afualo?

  It's a fifty fifty.

• 54:29Speaker 02

  White bread. Fifty fifty, that's generous.

• 54:31Drew Afualo?

  That's true. What are we looking at, eighty twenty?

• 54:33Speaker 02

  Not charming, very boring. I'm like, where's, where's the spark that I'm seeing in these videos?

• 54:41Speaker 00

  Hi, everyone, it's Katie Couric, and on my podcast, Next Question, we love stories about how women are taking control of their lives. They are increasingly leading financial decisions in their households, yet many say they don't feel fully prepared for the long-term financial choices ahead. Real confidence comes from knowing your financial future is protected, whatever happens. Pacific Life has helped generations protect what matters today and prepare for tomorrow with life insurance and lifetime income solutions. It's a promise Pacific Life has kept for nearly a hundred and sixty years, so its customers can keep theirs.

• 55:23Speaker 00

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• 55:41Speaker 02

  I'm not seeing it.

• 55:42Drew Afualo?

  It's not here.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  I'm not seeing it.

• 55:43Drew Afualo?

  It's not here, and I, I love celebrity gossip especially about like, I've told this one already, so forgive me, listener.

• 55:50Speaker 02

  Don't you dare ask for forgiveness.

• 55:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. I've already told this one, um, but I did a carpet once, and on it.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Love.

• 56:01Drew Afualo?

  Right, so, well, see, I don't know, I, I still haven't confirmed, but when I got my questions approved, they sent me a little note that said like, if you do talk to him, cuz he was very iffy, they're like, if you do talk to him, do not ask him anything other than these two questions. And it was like, how do you feel being here? Um, what's your favorite part of filming the movie? Very standard, he, I only had like, one silly question in there, but like, they were like, zero deviation, do not deviate from these two questions. They were just so adamant about it that I was like, what's going on here?

• 56:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:34Drew Afualo?

  Okay, fun police.

• 56:35Speaker 02

  I gotta meet this guy.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  Now I wanna break in.

• 56:38Drew Afualo?

  You, you get in there and you do the ground, boots on the groundwork.

• 56:41Speaker 02

  I'm gonna try.

• 56:42Drew Afualo?

  I think you could do that.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  I've been trying to, yeah, set goals like this.

• 56:45Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 56:46Speaker 02

  You know, where I'm like, I, I need to interact with that person myself, just so I could see.

• 56:49Drew Afualo?

  Yes, you have to.

• 56:50Speaker 02

  If these things are true, but if he turned out to be not the smartest, I'd be like, well, that checks out.

• 56:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  You're, right, like, even memorizing lines is like, it's amazing, you can do that.

• 56:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  That's not easy to do.

• 56:59Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  So if he is, and, and that's the skill we need him for, it's not, he's not writing books.

• 57:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and to, thank god.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Thank god, although, would love to see what he could come up with.

• 57:09Drew Afualo?

  I love to know his thoughts, yeah, sometimes when I see that, and people are like, god, he's so classy, and he's so smart, and blah blah blah, I'm like.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Well, we have to bite our tongues, that's what I'm saying, it's so hard.

• 57:18Drew Afualo?

  I even told my sister recently, cuz someone had asked me on my other podcast, like, how I think I would be faring if I was single and doing this. And I was like, oh my god, you guys should be fucking lucky that I found my soulmate before I got this. Oh bitch, the, I would have like, a string of heads on it.

• 57:38Speaker 02

  Would you name names?

• 57:39Drew Afualo?

  Tie it to my belt.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  Would you name names?

• 57:41Drew Afualo?

  Oh, fuck yeah, girl, I'm like, so convinced too, like, and I think, maybe even if I wasn't like, actually first and last naming them, I would make it so painfully obvious who it was. Um, but I would be, oh, I'd be, I'd be on demon hour. I would be running a train through Hollywood, that's for fucking sure, I'd be getting that date, I'll tell you that much.

• 58:00Speaker 02

  I feel like it's still considered like, a faux pas to like, do that, and I'm just, I'm like, men, men design that system, cuz like, I wanna talk about it.

• 58:08Drew Afualo?

  I want the girls to know. And they know that women can have a captive audience. So they, they know that, and they fear that, that's why they, they do all that fucking groundwork beforehand.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  And hey, I'd be fair, I'd say the good ones too, I've had some good interactions and experiences, but a lot of bad ones. And I just think like, it's a shame I have to carry that until I write my memoir.

• 58:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and then when that happens.

• 58:29Speaker 02

  Oh, heads will roll.

• 58:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, good luck.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  Jessica Simpson approach, I don't know if you read her book, but.

• 58:33Drew Afualo?

  I didn't.

• 58:34Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 58:34Drew Afualo?

  I, no, but I know Britney Spears' book was like that too.

• 58:37Speaker 02

  Drag them to hell, name names, say every bad thing they did, and it was, I was like, honestly, her book was so good, and she really owns up to these like, failures that she had in her career, and just the guys that she was attracted to and dated were, it was mind boggling. But I was like, that's amazing, and it's like, it's long form, it's a book, it's, cuz it's, if it's a book, people are gonna be like, I respect it, it's one thing if you're like, talking about it, I don't know, like, in a tabloid or something. But the fact that it was a book, it instantly becomes like, highbrow.

• 59:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:06Speaker 02

  So I guess I just have to wait.

• 59:07Drew Afualo?

  But yeah, you get, well, and you'll collect more stories along the way, hopefully, for us.

• 59:11Speaker 02

  Anymore, by the way.

• 59:14Speaker 02

  I feel really good about where I'm at.

• 59:16Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no, I'm good.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  I've got enough chapters. I could really write a book about just the men that I've been with, and how badly they've traumatized me, but then I thought it'd be too sad.

• 59:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  So we'll see.

• 59:26Drew Afualo?

  I think with you, you could make anything entertaining though, even if it was sad.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  Alright, I'll do it.

• 59:31Drew Afualo?

  I have some fun facts for you.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:32Drew Afualo?

  To, to kinda close this out.

• 59:33Speaker 02

  Yay.

• 59:34Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so, this first one says, as a kid, you got kicked out of pre-k for two weeks because you would cry for attention?

• 59:41Speaker 02

  That's, so that's mostly true, I would cry cuz I miss my mom.

• 59:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's sweet.

• 59:47Speaker 02

  I was upsetting the other kids, and then they go, well, you're suspended for two weeks, and I was like, this is amazing. So you're gonna get to go home and be with my mom for two weeks.

• 59:55Drew Afualo?

  So I've been rewarded.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  What's the punishment? But no, I was a very, yeah, I, I just didn't think it was fair that I had to go to school, and I told my mom, like, why would I go to school when I have all the same toys at home and I don't have to share them? I was really bad at sharing, for most of my life, it's, I only recently turned a corner, but yeah, that happened. One time, my mom dropped me off at kindergarten, so I'd already successfully completed pre-k, and she said, I'm gonna wait by the door, don't worry, and I'll be here at the end of cla, like, at the end of school, and I just was like, you're a fucking liar. So I went in, and I immediately asked to go to the bathroom, walk out, she's not there. So busted, so busted.

• 1:00:31Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, nice try, mom.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  Nice try.

• 1:00:33Drew Afualo?

  Guess what, I checked your work, liar.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  You think I'm an idiot? Just cuz I'm a kid doesn't mean I'm an idiot.

• 1:00:40Drew Afualo?

  That's what my sister was too, she cried every day, my mom said that she had to start taking a long way away from, so, cuz my sister would, as soon as my mom would leave her, she would sprint to the gate, hold it like she was in prison, and, and wail as my mom was walking on the sidewalk.

• 1:00:55Speaker 02

  How do you walk away from that? Cuz my mom's the same.

• 1:00:58Drew Afualo?

  Well, she, she couldn't, that's why my mom kept going back and getting her. And then like, they were like, hey, she's never gonna learn if you keep coming back, so my mom was like, okay, and then it would just kill my mom, so she would walk a different way, so my, my sister couldn't see her. But she could hear my sister for sure, wailing.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  Cuz if they did that to me, I'd be like, I'll queer my day, like, I just can't, I, I couldn't.

• 1:01:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, fuck school, honestly, you don't need it.

• 1:01:18Speaker 02

  Whatever, it's like, what are they even teaching them at that point? So, no, I couldn't, I couldn't stomach it.

• 1:01:24Drew Afualo?

  Well, you know what, that makes sense, and you know what, your mom got to come to your special, and you should've left her there.

• 1:01:29Speaker 02

  No, I'm like, how's it feel?

• 1:01:30Drew Afualo?

  How's it feel?

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  How's it feel? No, I'll be right back, I'll be here when you get out.

• 1:01:36Speaker 02

  Thanks a lot.

• 1:01:37Drew Afualo?

  Okay, next one fact says you used to work part time at Sephora?

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  True. I dropped out of college, thought I wanted to be a makeup artist. And I worked at the Sephora on Greenwich Avenue. Judge Judy was a customer, along with a lot of really bored housewives.

• 1:01:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:51Speaker 02

  And we had this, at Sephora, you can return anything, no matter what, no matter how much of it is left. So we would have these chronic returners who clearly were so bored, they had nothing else to do. So they would go through their house and pick up mostly empty Sephora products. And then come in and fucking, and it was always five minutes before we closed. And if we couldn't find the order, you had to like create a new, it was such a fucking nightmare.

• 1:02:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  Um, and that turned me off of being a makeup artist, for sure.

• 1:02:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you're like, I've seen enough.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  But sometimes when I'm there, I want to tell the employees, I'm grabbing by the shoulders, you'll get out here. I did it, you can do it too.

• 1:02:22Drew Afualo?

  This isn't forever, I promise.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Forever. And some of them maybe want to work there and work their way up. I mean, the corporate was, was good to us, but I think some of them have other dreams and, and I hope that they get to pursue them like I did.

• 1:02:33Drew Afualo?

  Hopefully, they, they get a Netflix special one day.

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  One day.

• 1:02:36Drew Afualo?

  One day. Okay, this one says, ask, oh, it says, ask you if you still get your lashes done at JJ Lashes in Herald Square?

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  Oh my god, what a time. I haven't gotten lash extensions, I had to stop.

• 1:02:49Drew Afualo?

  I had to stop too, that's so funny.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  Not sustainable.

• 1:02:52Drew Afualo?

  Well, yeah, and you also have huge eyes like me. And we don't need anymore.

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  We don't need enhancement.

• 1:02:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, we don't. I, I had to find that out the hard way, but yeah.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  It's a nice to have, it's not a must have, but yeah, they would tape your eyelids shut. Surreal experience. Walking in there, I don't know if you've seen that movie, The Island, where they like grow surrogates for rich people in case they need organs? But it looks like that in his face, in Herald Square. And so they, they tape your eyelids shut. And one time I, I started, I did, I had a cough.

• 1:03:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:18Speaker 02

  And I was like, it was really like, it was just really disorienting to be like, I have to sit up and cough while this woman has like lashes on my forehead, she's laying out to them glue individually, and my eyelids are shut. And I didn't want to serve the other surrogates, so it was.

• 1:03:33Speaker 02

  But I had to stop, it was so expensive.

• 1:03:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, my, my first time going to a lash studio like that, like pre-COVID, where you would all lay next to each other, it really did feel like that. It felt like, yeah, they were harvesting something.

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Harvesting, and we don't know, I would fall asleep sometimes, like I have no idea what they did. And I had no money, by the way. I was, at that time, I was working part time at SoulCycle, so I was making like four hundred dollars a week before tax. I was going straight to JJ Lashes, Herald Square. I would just, I would just sign the checks and, and give it to them. And you cashless.

• 1:04:04Drew Afualo?

  Listen, I need it.

• 1:04:05Speaker 02

  It's in and it's out.

• 1:04:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, what do you want from me? I need it.

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  I need it.

• 1:04:08Drew Afualo?

  And honestly, one of the first gifts my man ever got me, aside from nails, like he paid for my nails for like a year or something.

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  So cute. What does he do for work?

• 1:04:16Drew Afualo?

  He's a fitness trainer.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:04:18Drew Afualo?

  A personal trainer.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  That's awesome.

• 1:04:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he's a licensed personal trainer, but also he's a licensed like nutritionist too. He has like that, that license as well.

• 1:04:29Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, he's licensed.

• 1:04:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he's licensed, baby. He's for real. But he actually got me, uh, lash extensions once too, because when we first started dating, I was super into them.

• 1:04:36Speaker 02

  That's really.

• 1:04:37Drew Afualo?

  So he bought me like, it was like three months worth of lash extensions or something. I felt like a king.

• 1:04:42Speaker 02

  And, and they think that he's with you for money.

• 1:04:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no shit. I was like, I was leeching off him for a while.

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  One time I got my lashes done and they taped them down too low, so when I opened them again, they were like, to borrow from, I think, Superbad, Red as the Devil's Dick. And they were red for about a month. And I was like, I think I should stop. Cause I, I have photos from that time and it just looks like I'm high all the time.

• 1:05:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  So that I, yeah, and I should have spoken up. I wasn't like, I didn't say like, hey, this feels wrong to me. I just didn't say anything.

• 1:05:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, maybe there's something in it. Like maybe, sometimes I feel that way about certain things that people are loving and I'm kind of like, hey, why? Um, I always think about, I feel like a boomer, when they would be like, if you play this Beatles records backwards, you hear the devil talking. That's how I feel sometimes about like the lash extension phase. I'm like, there was something, there was like, they were growing an amoeba in my brain.

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:05:37Drew Afualo?

  Cause when I look back and look, I'm like, that looks awful.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  I mean, there, there was glue on your eyeball.

• 1:05:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and my eyes are beet red too. I also have that problem as well.

• 1:05:46Drew Afualo?

  So bloodshot.

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  Extremely haunted.

• 1:05:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and because.

• 1:05:49Speaker 02

  Why?

• 1:05:51Drew Afualo?

  And because our eyes are so big, like girl, it's bad. Yeah, I have, I have like anime, anime girl eyes.

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it is a blessing, but it can be a curse at times too.

• 1:06:03Drew Afualo?

  Can I say I saw an edit once that was like, I love a girl with like huge eyes and a cute tiny little mouth, and you were in there.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:06:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:14Speaker 02

  I didn't see it.

• 1:06:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it was you and the girl from Bridgerton, I think, like with Jonathan Bailey, I forget her name.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  Oh my god, that means the world.

• 1:06:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, that is so you, it's like so Tim Burton coded.

• 1:06:24Speaker 02

  Well, speaking of comments that people mean as insults, people will be like, you look like Coraline. I'm like, thanks, she snatched.

• 1:06:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  I'll take it.

• 1:06:33Drew Afualo?

  Okay, yeah, sure, I'll take that. Uh, this one says, in twenty nineteen, when your family had questions about a date you were going on during a Florida vacation, you made them an FAQ pamphlet to answer their questions.

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  My first thing that ever went viral. I forgot about it for a year and then I posted it on Twitter, R.I.P. But yes, I made a pamphlet to give out because I just knew, I have three brothers, two sisters, parents, cousins, I just knew there'd be questions. I met someone at a wedding who lived in Florida, we happened to be going to Florida for a vacation, it was like only an hour drive.

• 1:07:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  So I was like, we'll hang out, we'll rendezvous while I'm there.

• 1:07:05Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  Um, and then so I handed out the pamphlet and yes, it went viral, it inspired some people to come out as gay with a PowerPoint, which was really, really cool to just be inspiring people. The guy, it did go to me. Um, but he's also the reason I got an IUD, so.

• 1:07:20Drew Afualo?

  So not all, um, wins, I guess.

• 1:07:22Speaker 02

  Not all wins, not all, and not all losses. Sometimes you'd be so scared that you might be pregnant that you get an IUD. And that's what happened, so.

• 1:07:31Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'm happy for you.

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:07:32Drew Afualo?

  Congratulations on your IUD.

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love the thing. I mean, we fight like sisters, but.

• 1:07:40Drew Afualo?

  I'm one of those people that like, I don't want kids, so I, I have a deep seated fear of becoming pregnant accidentally.

• 1:07:45Speaker 02

  I have a deep seated IUD. I'm like, do, do they do different levels?

• 1:07:49Drew Afualo?

  No. I literally am only, the only reason I'm not getting one is because I like need to see my period. I have a love hate relationship with my period as well, like, but I need to see her. As, as awful, I'm like.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  Know it's there.

• 1:08:01Drew Afualo?

  I need to know that I'm having her.

• 1:08:03Speaker 02

  I get that.

• 1:08:03Drew Afualo?

  Um, otherwise, I'll just convince myself I'm pregnant.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:08:06Drew Afualo?

  And I, like, to the point where like, it was getting to the point where I would like tell my mom and sister, like, I don't know, I just think I am. And my mom was like, why? And I'm like, I don't know, I just have a feeling. And I've told my mom, like, so many, my mom to the point where she goes, you know, a lot of other things happen too, that tell you you're pregnant. It's not just the period, believe it or not.

• 1:08:22Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 1:08:23Drew Afualo?

  There's so many other things that happen. And I was like, that's a good point.

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  You're like, what do you know?

• 1:08:27Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was like, okay, miss, I had three kids, I had three children.

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Why, you're some expert all of a sudden?

• 1:08:35Drew Afualo?

  Well, anyways, that was our last fun fact for you. Everyone, give it up for Mary Beth. Were they fun?

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  I love, I mean, I think cause little narcissism, I love just hearing about myself.

• 1:08:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, what do you find interesting about me?

• 1:08:47Drew Afualo?

  Me too. I told my man, sometimes I watch videos of myself and I'll laugh like I wasn't there and that's not me.

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  Howling. Howling when I watch podcast clips. I'll just scroll through, I'm like, god, she's funny. And I love that best friend of hers too.

• 1:09:02Drew Afualo?

  I, and I, before we wrap, the last episode, we had my sister and I still make this joke to this day that you made, but you were talking about when Noah Beck carved out some time to watch Django Unchained.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:09:13Drew Afualo?

  And you, you, I forget why we were even talking about, I don't know why, how the fuck we got there, but you were like, did you see that clip of Noah Beck recently saying, I just made time to watch Django Unchained?

• 1:09:24Drew Afualo?

  Looking, laughing at your own joke.

• 1:09:27Drew Afualo?

  And then you literally were like, and I'm just laughing and I'm like, no, I didn't see it. And you're like, I just find, that movie came out in twenty twelve, like, but you said you didn't have an hour to catch a flick. My sister and I literally go, you don't have an hour to catch a flick?

• 1:09:41Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm so glad that that's in like. It's in the vernacular now.

• 1:09:45Drew Afualo?

  It is, it's worked its way into my vernacular with my sister.

• 1:09:48Speaker 02

  You never know whose lives you're gonna touch.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  And Noah Beck, I hope to meet you one day, you're a personal hero of mine. And we can discuss the movie Django Unchained.

• 1:09:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and that's it. You don't need to talk about anything else, just Django Unchained. And how he carved out some time to watch it in twenty twenty four, I think that was.

• 1:10:05Speaker 02

  Long after, by the way, Quentin Tarantino had been deemed sort of problematic.

• 1:10:08Drew Afualo?

  Yes, yes.

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  He's like, I'm gonna watch this now.

• 1:10:11Drew Afualo?

  I think now's the time. I finally have two hours.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  You know what? He was ready.

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  He was ready for those hard truths. Um, well, thank you for having me back. I mean, it's just always a goddamn pleasure talking to you.

• 1:10:22Drew Afualo?

  It is.

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  Um, I look forward to maybe seeing on a carpet at some point.

• 1:10:26Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, yeah, I would love.

• 1:10:27Speaker 02

  You know what? Would love to be inter- interviewed by you. And can I just say, by that same token, I would love to interview you on a carpet.

• 1:10:33Drew Afualo?

  I would love that too. We could do whatever you want. I could pick you up too, just like The Rock, physically and romantically, so.

• 1:10:40Speaker 02

  I have to go. Just go take a cold shower.

• 1:10:44Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming back. I fucking love you.

• 1:10:46Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:10:46Drew Afualo?

  You're the best. You're a sweet, amazing, incredibly talented comedian and actress.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  This is huge.

• 1:10:53Drew Afualo?

  You are so sweet to me.

• 1:10:55Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:10:55Drew Afualo?

  But that's because I'm not a terrible, terrible, awful man that's trying to harm you.

• 1:10:59Speaker 02

  No, you've never tried to harm me once.

• 1:11:00Drew Afualo?

  No, not once, not once, so.

• 1:11:02Speaker 02

  And I would, I would, if, I would go to battle for you.

• 1:11:05Drew Afualo?

  Likewise.

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  The face that launched a thousand ships. I hope you know, there is, there is a, a faction on the internet that would truly, I mean, you know this, because they do, but like, we would, we would weapons.

• 1:11:16Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  Weapons, point, shoot.

• 1:11:18Drew Afualo?

  Well, literally, I'll, I'll crack something and all of you are gonna run like little children somewhere else.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  Any take you had, I, you could convince me, that's what's really scary. I genuinely think you have the pers- power of persuasion where if you said, if you totally up, like subverted in a, a thought or belief that I had, I would just would believe you. So just know that that's the power that you have.

• 1:11:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's the gun I have in my hand and I use it wisely, I'd like to thank.

• 1:11:41Speaker 02

  You use it for good and not evil.

• 1:11:42Drew Afualo?

  And if I was a white guy, I'd probably be starting a cult, but I'm not. And everyone should be thankful for that.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  I think about it all the time, but can I just say, if you started one, I'm moving in.

• 1:11:51Drew Afualo?

  But thank you so much to the amazing Mary Beth Brown for joining us. Make sure you guys go check out her new Netflix special, Galaxy Brain. So excited for the two, I think maybe straight people that don't know who you are.

• 1:12:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:03Drew Afualo?

  Where can everybody find you?

• 1:12:04Speaker 02

  You can find me at MaryBethBrown on Instagram and TikTok and Ride the Podcast with Mary Beth Skinner. And then season two, Overcompensating, at some point, but if you haven't seen season one, there's, it's Noah Beck.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  Don't wait.

• 1:12:18Drew Afualo?

  Noah Beck, don't wait.

• 1:12:19Speaker 02

  Don't wait twelve years.

• 1:12:20Drew Afualo?

  No, you can't, you can't with overcompensating.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  Stream overcompensating today.

• 1:12:23Drew Afualo?

  Today, while you still have the time.

• 1:12:26Speaker 02

  Spare an hour.

• 1:12:26Drew Afualo?

  While we're still here. And make sure you check out your Netflix special.

• 1:12:29Speaker 02

  And my Netflix special, www.netflix.com.

• 1:12:34Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for joining me. I fucking love you. Thank you so much to all of you for joining us on this episode of the comment section. Don't forget, new episodes of the comment section drop every Wednesday. You can stream audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively on YouTube. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Mary Beth Brown. Thank you so much to all of you and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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