IT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN Ft. Max Balegde | Episode 195

Max Balegde is here this week!! Drew and Max talk discovering gambling in Vegas, a stranger throwing Max’s umbrella, throwing up in front of Tom Cruise, Drew trapped behind a shrub on the red carpet, British tortoises, and so much more. Max IG: https://www.instagram.com/max_balegde/ Max TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@max_balegde?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ Secrets & Truths come to light this season on The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:32Speaker 01

  Something about Paul Hollywood.

• 0:33Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  That man. You know, something about him saying that your sponge cannot have a soggy bottom.

• 0:41Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 0:42Speaker 01

  That really makes my sponge want to have a soggy bottom.

• 0:45Drew Afualo?

  Gives me a soggy bottom immediately. How's that?

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Instant sog.

• 0:56Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Common Section Show, starring me, your favorite, everybody who knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the hilarious Max Bellegarde.

• 1:10Speaker 01

  I like those adjectives.

• 1:11Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, you're so welcome.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Thank you very much.

• 1:13Drew Afualo?

  Straight from across the pond. I think you're my second Brit.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  Really? Who was the first?

• 1:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, the first one was Ayame.

• 1:18Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I love Ayame.

• 1:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I love her. She's so funny. Yeah, she's insane.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  She puts me on edge.

• 1:26Drew Afualo?

  She's insane.

• 1:27Speaker 01

  She literally terrifies me every time I'm with her. It's brilliant.

• 1:30Drew Afualo?

  Ayame and I, like, we keyed a lot about British food, which I'm sure we'll get into.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Oh, Christ. I saw some clips, and I feel like I've come in with a heavy burden to carry, to like defend an entire nation of people that have terrible taste.

• 1:46Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  But I'm gonna try.

• 1:47Drew Afualo?

  I do have a lot of compliments up here, though, too. As much as the Brits maybe don't think I'm that nice to them about the food, I do have a lot. But before we get into that, how are you feeling?

• 1:57Speaker 01

  I'm good.

• 1:58Drew Afualo?

  I'm so happy to have you.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  It's always so lovely. Every time I come to LA, I meet so many cool people, and then I leave immediately after.

• 2:07Drew Afualo?

  And that's how you do it.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  That's how it should be.

• 2:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 2:10Speaker 01

  So I've come out for, like, a good week, 10-day trip, and it really is strange. Like, you're from this area, so I guess it's more normal to you. But like, going to, I went to The Grove yesterday. Meghan Trainor spotted me whilst filming a music video and then asked me to be in it. And I'm there like greasy face with like shopping bags like clapping along.

• 2:30Drew Afualo?

  I saw her.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  And I'm like, what is this place? Is this place even real?

• 2:36Drew Afualo?

  I love her. I, I too have been in a Meghan Trainor music video.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  Yes, you have.

• 2:40Drew Afualo?

  I love her.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Oh, my god.

• 2:42Drew Afualo?

  She's the sweetest.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  She is brilliant.

• 2:43Drew Afualo?

  The nicest person ever.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  She's so lovely.

• 2:46Drew Afualo?

  What are the odds you were just strolling around and she was like, oh?

• 2:50Speaker 01

  I thought she was a Disney princess.

• 2:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she is.

• 2:52Speaker 01

  I said to my boyfriend, I was like, oh, there's a Disney princess singing on the side of that bus. And then we got closer and I was like, I think that's Meghan Trainor.

• 3:00Drew Afualo?

  Is that M Train?

• 3:02Speaker 01

  On the train?

• 3:05Speaker 01

  I was like, what the fuck is going on? And then she points at me and she goes, Max, she's like, stay there. And I was like, what the fuck? And then this woman comes over, she's like, I'm her mom. I'm like, I'm confused.

• 3:16Drew Afualo?

  I love her mom. Her mom is the sweetest.

• 3:19Speaker 01

  You might have a mom, she might be the bomb. Uh, yeah. To meet the mom that that song is about, I was like, go on then, Miss, Mrs Train.

• 3:28Drew Afualo?

  Mrs Train.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  Mental. So if you see this greasy face clapping along to a song that I don't know the words to.

• 3:34Drew Afualo?

  Say, be nice to me because I didn't know.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  Please, please.

• 3:37Drew Afualo?

  I didn't know I was gonna be on camera.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Also to be in a music video for a song that you've never heard. And at points she'd just be like, just like clap along, sing along. And I was like, I don't know what, what, what? So I'm just like, oh, so yeah, yeah, sorry.

• 3:52Drew Afualo?

  She's very chronically online, so I'm not surprised that she was a big fan of you two.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  She knew, like, she even pointed out my boyfriend, she got, got him in it. He's like probably devastated by that, but brilliant time. Uh, no, what a lovely woman.

• 4:05Drew Afualo?

  I know, love her. Wow, the experience of a lifetime. You were just telling me too, you, you went to Vegas also. Was it your first time going to Vegas?

• 4:12Speaker 01

  I've been to Vegas once before.

• 4:14Drew Afualo?

  But not properly like that?

• 4:15Speaker 01

  I went to Bravo Con, so that was like, that was like really seeing a mixture of the gayest people in the world and Trump's America, I feel. Like, that is the Bravo fanbase.

• 4:25Drew Afualo?

  That's where they go to meet, to congregate.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, like that is the, what's it called then? Semi-circle like graph thing? There we go. That's the where they meet in the middle.

• 4:33Drew Afualo?

  That's so true.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  So that was like a, an experience within itself, but we didn't do the whole like, right hardcore party.

• 4:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  This time, fuck me, Drew. Fuck me. It's, I walked in and I was like, this is Disneyland. This is brilliant.

• 4:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 4:49Drew Afualo?

  You really get swept up in the energy. You're like, oh my god, I could do anything.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  I was just like, wow. First night, I bet a hundred dollars.

• 4:58Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  And I won two hundred and fifty. I was like, this is a cheat code. Why don't, why doesn't everyone do this?

• 5:03Drew Afualo?

  I love gambling.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Oh my god. Honestly, the rush it gave. I was like, guys, honestly, if you've never tried gambling, I don't see any downside to it.

• 5:11Drew Afualo?

  As of right now, nothing bad.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I'm loving life. We go out, I have the best time. Next night, we've got a big nightclub booked. I'm like, oh my gosh, this gambling thing is amazing. So before I go out, I'm just gonna bet all the money that I won last night, all in one, put it on red.

• 5:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  I kept winning last night. Like, clearly red's my favor.

• 5:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Lost, fuming, devastated.

• 5:33Drew Afualo?

  Night ruined, Vegas cancelled.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  Instant mood drop. So then we go out, get back to the hotel at the end, and I've been thinking about it all night. This is why I'm now not allowed to gamble ever again, because it wouldn't leave my brain the entire night. So I was like, well, what if I just went back and I put some more on red?

• 5:48Drew Afualo?

  That does tend to happen.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  And then that one, like, so what if I won that money back that I lost? So then we get there, we go to the ATM, there's a guy in front. And this is when I really saw that Vegas has a dark side to it.

• 5:58Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  Because he goes like, if you let me cut in front of you in line, then I'll give you all a hundred dollars. So me being the cheap bitch that I am, I'm like, fucking two, right? A hundred quid? Are you joking? That's sick. So he jumps in front, this guy's out of his mind. He gets five grand out of the thing. And then he proceeds to start talking to us, saying he earns like a million dollars a week, doing whatever job he does. He looked fucking mental. Brought us to this table, he spent forty thousand dollars, lost it all, lost it all in front of us. Forty grand, just kept putting it down, putting it down. He was going, buy these guys a drink. I'm there like sipping a green tea because it's the end of the night, like shit.

• 6:34Drew Afualo?

  Like, I'm afraid.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  I was like, can I have that hundred dollars now? Like, Vegas freaks me the fuck out.

• 6:38Drew Afualo?

  By the way, you owe, I know it's a bad time, but you owe me a hundred dollars.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  I know you're down forty grand, but uh about that hundred.

• 6:44Drew Afualo?

  Plus about three hundred.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  But honestly, yeah, Vegas, it terrified me. I I I feel emotionally and physically mentally scared.

• 6:51Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it takes a lot more than it gives sometimes.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  Oh, she's a.

• 6:55Drew Afualo?

  And since I've gotten older, like Vegas is even more of a cautionary tale to me. So it's very like, I have to tread carefully and like I told you, I have to get in, get out.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:05Drew Afualo?

  Like easy, quick money. Have to go in, have a little bit of fun, not too much fun, get out.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Makes so much sense. I I always thought like, why does everyone look so afraid? Like, like in the streets in Vegas.

• 7:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:19Speaker 01

  Now I understand.

• 7:19Drew Afualo?

  It's just like what you said about Bravo Con. It's like people having the best night of their life and people losing everything they've ever owned. It's just those are the only people there.

• 7:27Speaker 01

  That is the story of The Real Housewives.

• 7:29Drew Afualo?

  That's the only crossover there is.

• 7:31Speaker 01

  Biggest character arc that you can have in a typical season of The Real Housewives.

• 7:34Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly. I do want to talk about how I found you though, on TikTok originally, because well, one of the first, I remember one of the first videos I remember watching you is when you said you got really drunk at Disney World, I think, in Florida.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Christ, yeah.

• 7:47Drew Afualo?

  I don't even remember buying half this stuff, but you're like going through, you're doing a haul.

• 7:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was.

• 7:52Drew Afualo?

  But you're hungover doing a haul and go, why would I buy this?

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Oh my god, it's a trap, guys. It's a Ponzi scheme, alright, is Disneyland. And the fact that, so it was actually Disneyland Paris that I went to.

• 8:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, true.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  Quick hop, skip and a jump away from London. Get on the train, you arrive in the park, it's mental.

• 8:08Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Don't know how there's a train that goes from the UK to another country, by the way.

• 8:12Drew Afualo?

  I know, I agree.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Have to discover that.

• 8:14Drew Afualo?

  I wouldn't know anything about that because we don't have shit like that over here.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Makes sense.

• 8:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 8:17Speaker 01

  Um, so I arrive in Disneyland. I'm like, oh my god, this is all I've ever wanted. I'm like, I think I'm like twenty years old. I've now got adult money. I'm like, oh, I'm paying for a trip. Go with my best friend. We'd always spoke about going when we're in high school together. We met in science together.

• 8:30Drew Afualo?

  Sweet.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  And we were like, oh, one day we'll go to Disneyland. We're finally doing it. Booked the trip relatively cheap. Got an Airbnb, uh, cheap flights, cheap tickets, whatever. First day, the the downfall of Disneyland Paris is that there's this like Ratatouille land.

• 8:45Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  So we were in this fancy restaurant and we thought, why don't we get a bottle of wine? Why don't we just get a bottle of wine? So I'm giving it oui oui. Bonjour. Oh, aujourd'hui.

• 8:58Drew Afualo?

  You're getting real French.

• 8:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, Remy's, Remy's working his way from my hat down to my pants.

• 9:03Drew Afualo?

  He's talking through me like the spirit.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  He's having his dirty little way with me, it's Remy, honestly. And I'm just pouring these drinks, pouring them to the point where it gets to the fireworks. Now, this is where the Ponzi scheme comes into play. Because how are you going to tell me that I'm allowed probably two bottles of wine? Then you're gonna show me a magical display of fireworks mixed with Elsa singing Let It Go in French? First of all.

• 9:30Drew Afualo?

  Tears in my eyes, credit card out.

• 9:31Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. Then, upon my exit, I walk through the most glorious store you've ever seen. And I spent more that one night in that store than I did on the entire trip.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  I spent like, it was a disgrace. And I woke up the next morning and I was in a, in a sea of, of teddies, of pins. I became a pin collector.

• 9:54Drew Afualo?

  Overnight?

• 9:57Speaker 01

  What the fuck was that all about? Do you know how much wasteful metal is in my house?

• 10:03Drew Afualo?

  Decorative metal.

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Literally. I ain't getting shit for that. I, I, fuming is not even the word. So then I posted that video.

• 10:11Drew Afualo?

  And you seemed so annoyed in it. You're like, why the fuck would I buy?

• 10:15Speaker 01

  Raging, Drew, honestly. Like, I post it, at that point, I was probably on like, I want to say like 900K on TikTok. Post the video, go to, go, go to the parks in the morning, check my phone again at lunch. It's on like 20 million views. I've gained like, like 600,000 followers or something off the back of it. I'm like, what the fuck? Then for the rest of the day on that trip, people are coming up to me, you're the guy who did this last night. I'm like, oh, yeah.

• 10:41Drew Afualo?

  You're the guy that Remy had his way with last night.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  We're gonna need that rap back, so.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Where is he? Why is his jaw broken?

• 10:54Drew Afualo?

  You're walking funny the next day.

• 10:57Speaker 01

  Oh my god, it was just like for literally like years later, people still come up to me in the street and they're like, where are your pins? I'm like, don't bring up my trauma.

• 11:06Drew Afualo?

  Don't, okay, don't, not now.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  But yeah, it's such a funny thing to be known for. Like, as you know, with TikTok, one thing can blow up and then even if you do like other things after it, people remember that one thing. And I just think that's such a funny thing to be known as.

• 11:21Drew Afualo?

  It is, it is. You're spending way too much money on Remy the Rat merch.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  It's great.

• 11:27Drew Afualo?

  Well, I'd love to know, when you were in school and stuff, like, what did you want to do? I'm so curious. Cause you have such a host personality energy.

• 11:35Speaker 01

  And I didn't. I did not at school. I was not a theater kid. I was not, I was just, I was just a dickhead.

• 11:42Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 11:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, like I was, I was such a goody like two shoes in primary school, which is our middle, like middle first school, whatever you call it. And I was, I was like so well behaved, top of my class and everything. And then I made best friends with a girl who had read her an older boyfriend and terrible fake tan, and she ruined my life. She's a brilliant woman. And she led me astray.

• 12:07Drew Afualo?

  She opened your third eye.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. And then I started to get invited to like parties where we'd be underage drinking and I was like, oh, this is so like cool. This is what life's all about. And then I just became a bit of a dickhead. And then it was like, when I was like 14, 15, I realized I'm from a shit little town. If I keep being a dickhead, then I'm not gonna really get anywhere. So I kind of binned off all those people, really put my heart into getting out of that town. And around that time was when I started to gain a lot of confidence in myself.

• 12:40Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  And I think that's what I attribute, like, the weird, I, I, I look back on my life and there were so many weird moments that I learnt skills that are applicable to my job now.

• 12:49Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 12:49Speaker 01

  That I don't think would have ever been applicable to any other job.

• 12:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I find that so interesting because I was, I, I feel like you have a very fun personality, a very hosting personality. So I was curious if you ever wanted to, what did you want to do?

• 13:02Speaker 01

  I wanted to work in marketing.

• 13:05Drew Afualo?

  Okay. I mean, technically you're doing that now.

• 13:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:08Drew Afualo?

  She's marketing you.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  I originally went to school, to university, like college, to do film. Um, and then I got there, realised that I was shit. And I thought, what's any respectable person that tried to pursue a career in the arts gonna do? Get a marketing degree.

• 13:23Drew Afualo?

  Obviously.

• 13:24Speaker 01

  So then dropped out of that uni, went to Newcastle Uni, if you've heard of Newcastle.

• 13:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I have heard of the place, yes.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Oh my god, the Geordie Shore Y I.

• 13:32Drew Afualo?

  Yes, I do know Geordie Shore.

• 13:33Speaker 01

  Mentor, that was literally my uni experience, like being with those people, chaos, love it. Um, and then I, I really started to get into digital marketing, social media side of it.

• 13:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 13:43Speaker 01

  When I actually started to do TikTok, I was an intern in London, working a nine to five where they started to put um me in charge of like TikTok campaigns. Cause they were starting to understand what it was.

• 13:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  This was like two thousand and twenty. And then literally the week that my internship ended, I hit, was, was when I went to that Disneyland.

• 14:03Drew Afualo?

  Oh, interesting.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Hit over a million followers, got um uh lots of like work off the back of it, and then that became my full-time job. So it was a really weird like thing, like I always wanted to work in social media somehow and, and like video, but I just didn't quite think that I would be the forefront of that.

• 14:20Drew Afualo?

  Okay, period.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:22Drew Afualo?

  Cause you're special.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Oh my god, and I've still got that rat in my palace, you know what I mean?

• 14:27Drew Afualo?

  And it's all thanks to the rat.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  Hey.

• 14:30Drew Afualo?

  Shouts out to the rat, love that. I do also wanna talk about the Survivor show that you were on.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  Oh my fucking god.

• 14:36Drew Afualo?

  I loved, I was watching your updates, like that your boyfriend was supposed to sing in your friend's room.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  Drew, so I find it crazy, in America, you have Survivor. We in the UK have our own version that's called I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here.

• 14:49Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  And that is like, you would not expect, I don't know why it's never been a thing that's taken off in America, cause it's literally like our biggest television show. Like, people love to watch someone that they've seen like host the news for years, get like cockroaches thrown at them. So when the offer came in, I was like, oh my god, and I, I got asked to do the Australian version of the show that, that um Robert Irwin hosts. He's doing Dancing with the Stars.

• 15:12Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Um, so I was like. What the fuck, like, the Australian version of the show, Robert, okay, interesting. So like, we did some digging into it and all I kept thinking was, I'm going to be so bad at this.

• 15:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 15:25Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna be able to do anything that they asked me to do. Like, why have they asked me to do this? And then I thought, oh my god, they want me to be that pathetic person that shitted everything and everyone's gonna laugh at. So I was so in my head.

• 15:36Drew Afualo?

  They're gonna prank me when I get there.

• 15:37Speaker 01

  Honestly, honestly, like, I was so worked up about going into it that I made myself sick upon entry. Um, I shit my, I shit the bed the night before, literally shit the bed, because I got so worked up and anxious that I was, I was vomiting, sick. Then I, first day, I jumped off a cliff.

• 15:52Drew Afualo?

  So you just pooped your pants?

• 15:53Speaker 01

  I shit my.

• 15:53Drew Afualo?

  You're so mean.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  I shit the bed. Um, and then I, I, that, that morning, after shitting the bed the night before, I had to get up, enter the camp, jump off a cliff, fainted at the top of the cliff. I was an anxious mess throughout the entire experience. But I learned so much throughout it. And it was one of those weird things where I came out and people were going to be like, you're a hero. You are a hero. Oh my god. And I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? But I had so little knowledge of how TV shows like that were.

• 16:24Drew Afualo?

  Right, yeah.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  That I was just being completely myself from start to finish. And I didn't realise that, like, say, on a given day, if I was petrified, I, I get, I get told that the public have voted me to do a challenge where I have to like, jump off a cliff and reach for a star or whatever.

• 16:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  And then all morning, I'm like, oh my god, the public must hate me. Oh my god, I'm a mess. Like, I'm so anxious, I'm gonna be terrible at this.

• 16:44Drew Afualo?

  And you can't see or hear anything on social media?

• 16:46Speaker 01

  You have no idea about anything that's happening.

• 16:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, or what people are saying at all.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  They got, you, you get like six hundred calories a day.

• 16:53Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  A day. Cause it's all about like, really stripping everything back. Everything that you eat is like, in its purest form. You just get oil and vegetables and meat. That's all that you eat.

• 17:04Drew Afualo?

  Six hundred calories a day?

• 17:05Speaker 01

  That's if you don't win in the challenges to earn more calories, but that's the baseline of what they can give you.

• 17:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay. See, I would waste it on one piece of bread.

• 17:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:13Drew Afualo?

  I'd be like, ah, fuck.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, genuinely.

• 17:15Drew Afualo?

  Damn, I've gotta wait till tomorrow.

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Genuinely, it was so difficult, but I learnt so much about how shows like that work, how about myself, like getting the opportunity to be so far away from everything.

• 17:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 17:28Speaker 01

  And realise that all of the things that we put so much importance on in this job that we are especially in.

• 17:33Drew Afualo?

  Right, yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 01

  And realise how fucking stupid it all is. And that like.

• 17:38Drew Afualo?

  How not serious any of it is. It's so like unimportant.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. All I cared about was like my grandma and like my boyfriend and my family and my friends. And when I came out, I made such an effort.

• 17:49Drew Afualo?

  Damn, they made you Buddhist.

• 17:50Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 17:50Drew Afualo?

  They said six hundred calories a day, girl. And I'm grateful for the earth. And I'm grateful for this love.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  A hundred percent. I was like, oh my god, eat me, eat, pray, love. Well, not eat, pray, love.

• 17:59Drew Afualo?

  Girl, I need to give away all my earthly possessions.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the way I left that, like, I'm giving all my money to charity a week in. I'm like, fuck that.

• 18:07Drew Afualo?

  Unfortunately, I do have bills today, so I did come out of it like minded, yeah.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  No, but I like spend way more time with my family now. I take them on trips and stuff, which I didn't do before because it always felt like such a hassle to get everyone's calendars lined and then something would pop up for me and I would find it so hard to take time away from work.

• 18:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  But now I'm like, no, prioritise what's important in life.

• 18:27Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's nice.

• 18:28Speaker 01

  So and Robert Irwin is the nicest person. I don't know how much Americans know about Robert Irwin. I know he's on Dancing with the Stars now and that's like a big intro to him.

• 18:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  He is the nicest man.

• 18:40Drew Afualo?

  I've heard he's really nice.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Oh my god, like, he's not even like, I would be like, well, I mean, yeah, I shit myself several times throughout that show. There was a, there was a day where I had to eat a boar's nipple that was dipped in a thousand year old egg.

• 18:55Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  The entire nipple.

• 18:57Drew Afualo?

  Delicious.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  Black, like that thick, thick.

• 19:01Drew Afualo?

  In a black one at that?

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Hairy. Mate, that's where I draw the line.

• 19:06Drew Afualo?

  You lost me, honestly.

• 19:07Speaker 01

  You lost me there. This was not in my contract. And so I had to eat that and I was vomiting so much, obviously. And in those trials, if you vomited up, you lose the star. So I had to swallow my own vomit a lot. So I'm crying whilst this is happening. Robert Irwin is being, he's just like, you're doing amazing, mate. You're, you're smashing it. Look at you. And then afterwards, he'd like come to the van when the cameras were down. And he'd be like, honestly, like, your family's gonna be so proud of you. I'm so proud of you. My mum's watching.

• 19:36Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much, Robert Irwin. It means the world.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  I was like, thank you, Robert, but I've also got like boar's nipple in my stomach right now.

• 19:43Drew Afualo?

  Also, why don't you go munch on that and tell me if your family's proud of you. How's that?

• 19:47Speaker 01

  But oh, such a lovely man, like, and his life is just like remarkable.

• 19:52Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 19:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:53Drew Afualo?

  He's, he, he's so tea. I think he's awesome.

• 19:55Speaker 01

  He's crazy.

• 19:56Drew Afualo?

  And I, I'm so happy that you had such a negative slash positive experience.

• 20:00Speaker 01

  It was such a positive experience. Like, I look back on it and you get tested in ways that you only just come out and, and you feel like you've experienced a triumph. So, yeah, but fuck me.

• 20:09Drew Afualo?

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• 20:49Drew Afualo?

  I think I've talked about this before. I'm sure I have, but right when I blew up on TikTok, like around the time, like I had just gotten signed. I was being, um, going through the process of potentially being on the circle. Like, and so like, really?

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Like when, when Netflix bought it?

• 21:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that was like.

• 21:06Speaker 01

  Twenty twenty?

• 21:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like twenty twenty. Actually, mine was twenty twenty one, I think.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  But I think mine might have been twenty twenty. It was when Netflix first started working with her.

• 21:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they had one season out and I was, I think I was doing the second one, I believe.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  Right, okay. I think I was the first one.

• 21:20Drew Afualo?

  Okay, tea.

• 21:21Speaker 01

  And then I remember thinking like, oh God, I'm glad that I didn't do that because it looked quite stressful.

• 21:24Drew Afualo?

  No, same. I, I was like, I think that's how they found me too. It's like, I started blowing up on TikTok and then they slid in my DMs and I was like going through the audition process.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:34Drew Afualo?

  And I was like going to be my, my man, like my fiance. So I was gonna play as him and I was like, yeah, like I know a lot about sports. I feel like I generally know how men talk. Like I could easily convince people that I'm him. And, um, I went through so many rounds of it and I remember at the very end, they were telling me, I obviously wouldn't have my phone for like however long I was on the show and then I had to go to the UK and like live there for like six to eight weeks.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  Geez.

• 22:01Drew Afualo?

  I said, girl, they lost me at the phone. I said, no phone. Hmm, I have to think about this. Hmm. But honestly, the last thing, which is why I didn't get it, was the psyche eval. Like low key failed it.

• 22:14Drew Afualo?

  Cause she ended up just asking me questions like, you know, do you deal with this? Do you deal with that? And I was like, sometimes. And then I started thinking, maybe I should start lying. And the last question I remember she asked me was, what's your biggest fear about being on this show? And then I said, um, probably being perceived as someone that I'm not like being painted to be someone else. And then I like, after she was like, okay, thanks for your time. And then we hung up. And then after that, I almost immediately knew I was like, they're not fucking me.

• 22:39Speaker 01

  Really?

• 22:40Drew Afualo?

  They're not fucking with me. No, no, no, no, no.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  Well, I had to fill out one of the, it's like a 500 question questionnaire.

• 22:45Drew Afualo?

  Shit.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  They really do it very cleverly because after a while doing a questionnaire that has 500 questions in it, you're kind of just like, yeah, take whatever. The questions will be like, I wake up and I'm happy to see the sun in the morning.

• 22:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 22:56Speaker 01

  I love my friends and family. I sometimes think about killing myself and everyone around me. And then you realize, oh shit, I just ticked absolutely 100% agree. Like, oh my God. Uh, so they do, they catch you out in those.

• 23:11Drew Afualo?

  That is true. Yeah. She, she was asking me those questions like verbally on Zoom.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  So she didn't trust you to do the questionnaire?

• 23:16Drew Afualo?

  No, not at all.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  That's the first warning.

• 23:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. They were like, yeah, let's go ahead and interview you face to face. I will say though, if I could pick, cause reality TV, it's not something I, I really watch ever. Um, or participate in like Survivor. That's why I said, you're so much braver than me because I could never. We have one here called Naked and Afraid. Have you ever seen that one?

• 23:35Speaker 01

  I think I've heard of it.

• 23:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  Isn't it quite new?

• 23:37Drew Afualo?

  A little bit. Yeah. I would say in like the last 10 ish years, but like, it's like literally you're completely nude and they just drop you off in the middle of some terrain with another person who's not your friend. And they're all so naked and afraid. And then you guys just try to survive. Yeah. And you just try to survive essentially, but you're naked. So like, that's like kind of the whole thing. I don't really know why the naked part is a huge part of it, but like, I'm assuming it's like.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  Does this get broadcast to the public or is this just one person making this show for a private audience?

• 24:05Drew Afualo?

  Just auditioning their own people. No, for real. I could never, I don't think I could ever do something like that.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  It's hard.

• 24:11Drew Afualo?

  One of my favorite reality shows of all time, and I'm being so serious. I've loved it for years is The Great British Baking Show.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 24:18Drew Afualo?

  That is one of my favorite shows of all time. My friend introduced me to it like when I was in college, like years ago, cause she did a study abroad. A programme in London.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:29Drew Afualo?

  And she was watching it like the year of Bengate, like the year it happened.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  Oh my god, everyone remembers where they were. Everyone remembers where they were at Bengate.

• 24:41Drew Afualo?

  So she told me, you have to watch it. Like she introduced me to it. It was so good.

• 24:46Speaker 01

  Something about Paul Hollywood.

• 24:48Drew Afualo?

  Oh, girl.

• 24:48Speaker 01

  That man. You know, yeah, it's something about him saying that your sponge cannot have a soggy bottom.

• 24:56Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  That really makes my sponge want to have a soggy bottom.

• 24:59Drew Afualo?

  Gives me a soggy bottom immediately. How's that?

• 25:01Speaker 01

  Instant sog.

• 25:04Drew Afualo?

  I want to be in that tent so bad. I feel like you're gonna be on there, like the celebrity version.

• 25:08Speaker 01

  The dream, yeah, they do. Like a charity celebrity version. And we've like pitched me for it a few times, but I think that is definitely something that I 100% want to do in my lifetime. I'd be terrible at it, don't get me wrong.

• 25:20Drew Afualo?

  Me too. I can't bake for shit.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  No, but I fucking love it.

• 25:24Drew Afualo?

  Someone had asked me in a Q and A I did on Instagram recently, they were like, um, how long do you think it would take for you to get a Hollywood handshake? And I was like, oh, I wouldn't even make it that far. I'm going out week one, easily. And that's if they don't dart me like a gorilla and drag me out for being annoying. Like, I'm so dead ass, I was like, I'd be, I would kill though, as like, one of the little fun hosts, like Noel or Alison.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 25:47Drew Afualo?

  I love them down.

• 25:48Speaker 01

  Alison, I've worked with her. She is genuine. So when I came, the week I came out of the jungle, which is a weird sentence to say, by the way.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  My first job was with Alison Hammond.

• 25:59Drew Afualo?

  Oh my god, how fun.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  She is legitimately, because she did the jungle as well years ago.

• 26:03Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 26:04Speaker 01

  So we were like exchanging stories on it. That woman, on and off camera, is just the exact same.

• 26:09Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I love her.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  She is so funny and I love that she's now gaining an American audience with so many people, because she deserves the world.

• 26:16Drew Afualo?

  I know, and she is like my north star in terms of a host. Like she is, she's a perfect example to me of someone who like personality is half the job. It's half the fun, you know what I mean?

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Drew, honestly, the amount of conversations that I have, like now that I like do a lot more hosting and like, I know you do so many red carpets and things like that. There are certain brands that you can work with in that kind of realm that want you to be the personalityless, like just don't have an opinion and ask the questions because they're focused on them. But that's not where the quality clips are.

• 26:46Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 26:47Speaker 01

  Like, it really is the Alison Hammond effect.

• 26:49Drew Afualo?

  I agree, because I think you're a wonderful host too. I've seen you're hosting stuff as well. And I do think it's like. I've I've said before, because I do have a degree in journalism and communication, so I did learn how to host. To some extent, I more so learned on like the broadcast news kind of app, journalism, obviously. But like, I've told people, I do have the the actual like certifications, if you will. Um, but I don't think that means shit, because some people, some journalists I know who are lifelong journalists, like, they can't talk in front of a camera. And they can't talk to celebrities and they can't interview very well, but they can write very well. So it's like every, I've said before, like, having the accolades is nice, but like, being able to read a room and like, relate to people is way, way, way more important.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  One million percent.

• 27:33Drew Afualo?

  It'll take you a lot further.

• 27:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, it's it's, I think in any creative job, there's only so much that you can learn about the job. You actually need to be on the ground doing it.

• 27:42Drew Afualo?

  For real, yeah.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  I look back to my first ever red carpet that I did, and what I do now, and it's light and day.

• 27:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, same, even me.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  And I could have researched about how to do X, Y, Z as much as possible, but being on the spot, being in that moment.

• 27:56Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 27:56Speaker 01

  It's like, you realize when you've got a famous person right next to you, there's like cameras, it's live, whatever.

• 28:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  That whatever comes out of your mouth determines how this next like minute, half an hour, thirty seconds goes. Um, and that is a skill that you actually need to hone in your brain.

• 28:11Drew Afualo?

  And develop, yeah, I agree. And I, and I know you know this too, I've told people before, like, you don't see it, obviously, because they see it either like on the live or clipped or in a larger piece, but like, sometimes they'll walk up and they'll be like, you have one question, twenty seconds.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 28:27Drew Afualo?

  And then they walk away and you're like, Kate Murpita, how are you feeling? Are you so happy to be here?

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:32Drew Afualo?

  Like, you really have to get them like, going almost immediately.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Oh my god, like, some of these people that like, represent the, the, you know, say if it's like a Netflix premiere or something, and it's Wednesday, and Jenna Ortega is obviously the person that everyone wants to speak to.

• 28:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  That person's rep needs to be the most cutthroat person on that day, because there's a million people here that mostly want to speak to Jenna Ortega.

• 28:54Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 28:55Speaker 01

  So it can be, you, you have to have thick skin, because you can literally get an entire interview pulled seconds before. You can have someone that shows up who is very flustered, like, it's your job to, in basically the first three seconds, to make them feel comfortable when you only have twenty seconds.

• 29:12Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 29:12Speaker 01

  And that is so hard to do, and I think you only get to know it, how to do it by, like, practice, trial and error, yeah.

• 29:19Drew Afualo?

  Totally. I, the first year I did the Oscars, that was like my first like big, big, big carpet, I feel like. And I remember they put me in those little, you know, those little pig pens. They put you in like right behind. They're like, if you step outside of that, I'm gonna shoot you.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, hundred percent.

• 29:32Drew Afualo?

  Um, when I was sitting next, I was standing next to a couple of different huge like outlets. And I had a wrangler, like someone to walk around. And they asked the person next to me, they're like, do you think you could scoot over just like a little bit? Cause they were kind of standing really close to my sign. Cause we're squished in there.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 29:49Drew Afualo?

  And then the guy goes, no, I can't. And I said, oh, the girls are fighting. And I, and I really do think like you need to be a really good neighbor to other people and be really fucking nice. Because they never forget and you see the same people.

• 30:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's every single time. It's every single time. It's the exact same people. I once did a carpet and obviously we're in London, it pisses it down constantly.

• 30:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:11Speaker 01

  So if it is about to rain, that's a nightmare. You've got a camera, you've got everything.

• 30:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  So I had this umbrella, um, that was like in its sheath, I wanna say. I, I sheathed my umbrella.

• 30:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:23Speaker 01

  Uh, so it was not an inconvenience, wasn't in the way for anyone. We were in the fucking pig pen.

• 30:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:28Speaker 01

  And, um, this guy next to me, I can't remember what outlet he was with. Um, grabbed the umbrella like in a moment of like frustration, cause I was at the other end of the carpet filming some things on the carpet.

• 30:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  And I saw him be like looking for something frantically, grab the umbrella and just throw it over the fence.

• 30:47Drew Afualo?

  Just threw you.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  Throw it over a fence.

• 30:49Drew Afualo?

  Just launched it.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  Like to where the public were. So I can no longer now get my umbrella. I walked over, I said, did you just throw my umbrella? I was like, what if it? It's, it's probably going to rain, we're in the UK. Did you just throw my umbrella? And he goes, no. I said,

• 31:08Speaker 01

  I said, I saw you. I just watched.

• 31:10Drew Afualo?

  Gaslighting you immediately.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  I was literally in shock. He went, no, but I was just looking for my cards. I couldn't find my cards. So maybe it got moved somewhere. Check under there. I said, I watched you launch my umbrella.

• 31:22Drew Afualo?

  He goes, I don't know, but you should check the other side of that fence. I thought I heard something.

• 31:26Speaker 01

  Meanwhile, this what, this woman who's been queuing up for two hours, nice new umbrella.

• 31:31Drew Afualo?

  She's like, can you believe it just fell?

• 31:34Speaker 01

  Like, what the, I couldn't believe it. But yeah, the classic example.

• 31:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  Next time I went to a carpet, he was there and I was really close with the person managing it. And they were like, where'd you wanna be? And I was like, as far away from that person as possible. So they put me to the front of the line, him all the way to the back of the line.

• 31:50Drew Afualo?

  Karma.

• 31:50Speaker 01

  I was like, that man is the umbrella thrower.

• 31:54Drew Afualo?

  No, that guy throws umbrellas.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  Sheathed umbrellas, mind you, that are not an inconvenience to anybody involved.

• 32:00Drew Afualo?

  Did you just throw my umbrella? No.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  Couldn't believe it, couldn't believe it.

• 32:07Drew Afualo?

  I have had like so many random things like that when I did Golden Globes this year. Again, another little, but it's a shrub, like they're like, you have to be behind the shrub. So I walked on the other side because carpet wasn't open yet and it's so fucking small back there. I was like, I'm going to stand on the other side until it's time and then I'll go behind the shrub. So I'm not crowding like my crew and then the people next to me. And so me and my, my girl are just standing there chatting. And then this lady walks up and she clearly works for Globes or something and she's like.

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• 33:15Drew Afualo?

  I'm sorry, are you media? Like, that's what she asked me. I go, oh yeah, I'm with, I'm with incel right here. And she goes, okay, so you need to be behind the shrub. And I go, oh yeah, no, I heard. I'm just waiting till everyone like kind of gets started. Uh, but I will for sure be behind the shrub. And she goes, right, well, carpet's open, so behind the shrub.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 33:37Drew Afualo?

  And then I go, oh, okay. Yeah, no, I, I said, no, I'll go back there. And she goes, right now, behind the shrub. She said it three fucking times. And then the third time she said it, I go, so behind the shrub or? And then not one laugh, just fucking staring at me. I go, right, I'll go fuck myself. No worries. And I went behind the shrub and I said, that bitch was going to beat my ass. Like she literally was like.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  I get it. Like we're all in a stressful scenario right here.

• 34:01Drew Afualo?

  It's like my bad girl.

• 34:02Speaker 01

  Do you want me to stab you?

• 34:05Speaker 01

  Do you want me to punch you right now?

• 34:06Drew Afualo?

  Are you gonna beat my ass?

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Like, what is going on? We don't have to be so hateful. We can all just have a good time.

• 34:12Drew Afualo?

  I know, and I'm sure you're like me. I love to key with my neighbors.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  Oh, hundred percent.

• 34:16Drew Afualo?

  And I love to ask questions, because I'm a big nosy bitch. So I love to be like, so who, who do we love? Who do we hate?

• 34:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 34:24Drew Afualo?

  Who's the worst person you've ever met?

• 34:25Speaker 01

  They tell you everything. You learn the craziest stories when in that, like, pigpen.

• 34:30Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna tell you this. When I, the one premiere I've done in London was I did that one in London. That was my first time ever going to London. It was very fun. It was fucking freezing, but it was like, I didn't want to sacrifice the fit, so I didn't wear a jacket. And I was like, ah, it's fine. And I was saying there, huge mistake. It was fucking cold. But as I was standing there when I first went up, um, there were people next to me, like, that were with the company, the larger company that I was working with. And I was like, so who do we love? Who do we hate?

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:57Drew Afualo?

  Like, I was like, asking. And, um, I want Amanda to bleep this, but I asked about

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:03Drew Afualo?

  So I was like, I was like, so what's his, so what's his tea, huh? Like, because when I had initially got, um, the ask, like, they asked me to submit questions, I did. And then they were like, this is wonderful. And then they said, we only have one note for him specifically. And they wrote at the bottom, if you do talk to him, only ask him one of these two questions. One of them was, how do you feel being here? The other one was, what are you most excited for people to see? That's it. Like, they were just like, those are the only two you're allowed to ask him if you do talk to him. And I was like, chatting with this girl, and I was like, so what's the tea on that? And she goes, oh, um, I go like, because I've heard through the grapevine that he's misogynistic. So I didn't know if maybe like, that's why they didn't want me to talk to him because of my content. Not that he would know me, but like, that it might be

• 35:48Speaker 01

  That someone on his team might have seen.

• 35:49Drew Afualo?

  Right, and it might bristle, right? So, which I'm like, I'm not gonna ask him crazy things on a carpet. That would just fuck up my own career.

• 35:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:56Drew Afualo?

  But, um, I was asking her, do you think that's why? Or like, what's tea there? And she goes, no, I think it's because, and she said this verbatim, she goes, I think it's because he's fucking stupid. That's

• 36:07Drew Afualo?

  I was like, and I started laughing and she goes, I'm so serious. Like, he's like one of the dumbest people I've ever met. And I said, oh my god, really?

• 36:14Speaker 01

  That's crazy.

• 36:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, so like, and she tells me all this shit. She tells me when he goes on interviews or whatever, they have to give him everything ahead of time.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Lea Michele?

• 36:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, right. Can't read. They literally pretend, they write, they write answers. He memorizes them like lines and then he sits in the chair and he waits for the lines like to be queued. So they ask him the exact same things in order. Cause he memorizes them like a script. I said, is he a robot?

• 36:41Speaker 01

  This is crazy because I've also worked with that person.

• 36:43Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  And I was an ambassador for the company that like had made the production that he was a part of. Me trying to use as many words to not reveal what it is. So in theory, I was in a country at the time, um, on planet earth. And yeah, uh, no, and he, I, I had to really submit the questions beforehand and I got told if you stray even in the wording, it will just be completely cut. And the questions were literally like, how's your day? So I was like, what is going on?

• 37:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, no, she told me the same thing. She goes, no, like he hates improv. He hates deviation. He will not answer it if it's anything.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  I also got told that he will not talk about his like, the fact that people find him physically attractive at all. Like that was a hard no. And I wasn't going to walk in and be like, all right, sexy.

• 37:32Drew Afualo?

  Hot cha cha, baby.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  Get your cock out.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  What shirt off?

• 37:38Drew Afualo?

  Let's see those titties, bitch. Let's see them.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  Like, what did they think I was gonna do?

• 37:44Drew Afualo?

  I thought the same thing when they were.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Like, don't shake my hand, instant boulder. Like, what?

• 37:50Drew Afualo?

  Careful.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  Like, Jesus Christ.

• 37:54Drew Afualo?

  I know. He's like, God, I'm so sick of hearing it. So sick of hearing how hot and sexy I am.

• 38:00Speaker 01

  I can relate.

• 38:00Drew Afualo?

  God, I'm so, no, same. Like, oh, the amount of times I've had to ask him to stop asking me. That's that's my favorite thing to do. I love to ask. I'm like, who's the rudest person you've ever met? I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  I I always ask people that question as well. I um I I told this story when I was actually in the jungle. And I don't think that you will know who it is, so it's not even worth me telling you their name. But there are like a Brit- my first ever red carpet. And this is where I learned, like, you really have to be able to think on your toes. And the worst things can happen to you in that moment, but you can't let it show. Because she was just not, she's a British singer, she was just not keen at all on any question I said. Any question I said, she shot me down. She was just so awful, rude, everything. Yeah, that's probably, I I realize I didn't tell you really anything there. Because I'm petrified. But yeah, she's horrible.

• 38:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, just rude and off putting.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 39:01Drew Afualo?

  But I do have another funny story about a rude celebrity.

• 39:04Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I'm sorry.

• 39:05Drew Afualo?

  And this celebrity I actually have, like, I think, like, to some extent that I don't like, I don't remember. And it's not Glenn Powell. Please stop addressing me about Glenn Powell. It's not him. I've never met him. Anyways, this again happened at Globes and I was like, um, keying with my neighbors. And one of the girls to my left, I I don't want to say which what outlet she works for, just in case this is bad looks. But she she was like with someone that was like a pretty popular one. So there were there were a lot of celebrities being brought to her. And she is so nice and so friendly and so normal. And she's been doing this for years. And so her and I were kind of keying. And it was funny because they came down the line, you know, sometimes reps will come down and they're like, hey, do you want to talk to whatever? And obviously we'll bleep this, but they're like, hey, do you want to talk to?

• 39:49Drew Afualo?

  And it was like, there was one news channel on my side and then my girl on the other side. And so me and the my girl were like, no, we're good. Like, I was like, no, I'm okay. Thank you, though. And then she was, she said the same thing. And then the other people on my right were like, yeah, sure, why not? So they bring him and then he chats to the people to my right. And then like, for some reason, his rep comes back. This is like 10 minutes in between all of it. Comes back, goes, "Yeah, these two next," to me and her. And I was like, I don't know if it was like a posturing thing, like it was like a, oh, try saying no to his face. Yeah. So I was like, "Not me." Like, I literally went, "Oh, no, not, not me." Right? I just, I just said that. He didn't even try to stop at me. He just went straight to the girl next to me because he fucking knows better. Yeah.

• 40:33Drew Afualo?

  And he went to the girl next to me and then she's like on her phone, like not recording. Yeah. She's just like, "You know you do that thing where you're pretending to text? Because I don't want to be rude, but like, get away from me." Yeah. "I don't want to be rude, but get away from my shrub, okay? I have other people." This is my shrub. Yeah, yeah, get away from here. Like, these two inches are mine. And so she was like pretending to be on her phone and then he's standing in front of her and he's going... Just like standing there waiting. I can so imagine him and, and his body language and the slimy nature of it. And it was one of those where it's like, you can tell when a man thinks, "I'm so good-looking. This bitch is gonna just ask me questions because she's gonna be so enamored by my face." Yes. By my juvaderm-filled face. So he's standing there and he's going right to her and then she goes, "Oh, no, I'm good." And then he goes,

• 41:18Drew Afualo?

  "All right." Okay. Like, he's going like that and, yeah, no. Okay. And then it was almost like he wanted to humiliate her. Oh, my god. So he, she said, "No, I'm a, I, I, I'm a good. Thank you, though." And then he literally was like, "Right, okay. It's fine. No, right. It's okay. Could've said that, but, you know." And then she goes, "I did say that. I told your rep I didn't want to talk to you." Oh. And I was, I'm standing there going,

• 41:46Drew Afualo?

  "You guys hear that?" "Did someone call me? No?" Oh, my god. A me trapped behind the shrub. I can't even leave. I'm like standing there and I was like... And then she, and then he goes, mm-hmm, okay, yeah. She goes, no, yeah, you should ask your rep why he brought you over here. I said no.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  That's brilliant.

• 42:02Drew Afualo?

  She said it twice. I said, well, you repeat yourself twice. I said, no.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  That is twice. She needs to come on the pod.

• 42:08Drew Afualo?

  I love her.

• 42:09Speaker 01

  This woman needs a public platform.

• 42:09Drew Afualo?

  And then he walked, he walked away, like, probably like five steps away. And really, his ego was bruised bad. And he walked five steps away and he's literally, I was like, holy shit bitch. When she turned toward me, I go, I think you're my hero, dog. And we started laughing and she goes, well, what the fuck? Get away from here. I said, no. She says it again, loud as fuck. And then I was like, man, I bet he's gonna beat up his team when he gets in there. And then the guy on my other side goes, he is, he's yelling at him right now. And I looked over and he was like.

• 42:39Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 42:40Drew Afualo?

  Like, you could see him, like.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  That's crazy. Well, of course, his face doesn't move, so he was like.

• 42:46Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, you know, he has to emote like this. Lot of hands. And he, I don't think did any more interviews. He just left, went inside. And I, literally, I see her at so many carpets. And I told her, I think the last time I saw her was at the Emmys. And I was like, girl, can I tell you something? Anyone who will listen to me, I tell them that story. I'm like, do you want to hear the funniest story?

• 43:05Speaker 01

  Such big dick energy, honestly. But there's so much power in, like, actually, on a human level, why would I put myself through that? If I don't, if I don't want to platform you, if I don't agree with who you are or how you're behaving in this moment, actually, I don't bloody need to.

• 43:20Drew Afualo?

  I don't work for you.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:21Drew Afualo?

  And it's funny because the outlet she works for is a very serious, like, film critic one. It's not fucking TMZ. Like, it's not like a random, like, oh, I'll talk to any, anyone who's famous. Like, hers is like a very serious, like, we review films and shows and everything. So the fact that he even thought you would want to.

• 43:41Speaker 01

  Isn't it?

• 43:41Drew Afualo?

  You know, sometimes, I know you know, because you wear carpets, like, sometimes you see people and they're like, kind of hanging out, because they want you to interview them really badly. And they're kind of like.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:50Drew Afualo?

  They're standing there like.

• 43:51Speaker 01

  At that moment, actually makes me feel physically sick sometimes. Sometimes, just for the sake of it, I unsheathe my umbrella and just put it up sideways. Just block out. Sorry.

• 44:02Drew Afualo?

  You launch it over the fence and you're like, sorry, I gotta go get my umbrella.

• 44:05Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry.

• 44:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh damn, I have to go chase my umbrella. No, I feel the same way. Like sometimes it's very like, they're standing there, they're like.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  Oh, it's so uncomfortable. You would know by now if I wanted to interview you.

• 44:19Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  Body language exists and also actual language exists. I'm silent and I'm not looking at you, so.

• 44:26Drew Afualo?

  I'm doing you a favor, I'm looking away.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:28Drew Afualo?

  Well, and also you and I know because we're like dickheads on the internet, like when I do carpets and I'm not working them, if no one calls me, girl, I'm sprinting.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 44:37Drew Afualo?

  I'm running so fast down that interview line, if no one stops me, no one stops me.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, we just had, in the UK, we had this thing called the Pride of Britain Awards, which is like a really, like, it's a huge TV show that they do and it's just like, give back to the community basically and all the biggest celebs go because they really enjoy, like, the event. So I get to the carpet and I'm like, well, I ain't really gonna sit here and try to get interviewed when like, the literal, like, a prince is over there, do you know what I mean? So, and this person that I was with was like, oh, should we not like try and get some interviews? I was like, that is hell to me. The idea of like walking by like.

• 45:10Drew Afualo?

  That's what I'm saying.

• 45:12Speaker 01

  Like, me, me, me, me, me.

• 45:14Drew Afualo?

  It really feels like.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Warming up the vocals, like, no, I don't want to.

• 45:17Drew Afualo?

  I'm really shaking the can in people's face, that's how it feels. Like, I'm like, anyone? Anyone?

• 45:24Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 45:24Drew Afualo?

  That's why sometimes I feel like I just turn my back and I run because I'm like, I, the last thing I wanna do is be like.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, hundred percent, like, I'm not like.

• 45:32Drew Afualo?

  Where my hell get?

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Whipping out the nipple taz, I was like.

• 45:37Drew Afualo?

  I was like, who, me?

• 45:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:38Drew Afualo?

  Oh, you guys wanna ask me questions? Oh.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  It makes me feel sick. Oh, cuz I know how awful it is to be on the other side.

• 45:48Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 45:48Speaker 01

  So I don't even wanna, I literally don't, unless someone physically shouts my name.

• 45:52Drew Afualo?

  Mine too, same.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, or I get someone to go down and be like, do you want to talk to him? If not, so fine, but like, please don't. And then I said to that person, don't tell me how many people said no.

• 46:02Drew Afualo?

  I know.

• 46:02Speaker 01

  Keep that to yourself, I'm gonna go through the bottom.

• 46:04Drew Afualo?

  I've had that happen before, I've told this story, I went to the Only Murders in the Building, season two premiere. And I got there, it was really tiny carpet, I got there late, obviously, cuz I'm late to everything, and of course, like, when principal cast walks, like, you're dead to them, like, there's no fucking point.

• 46:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:20Drew Afualo?

  But my team told me to still walk, so, or try to, and I was like, fuck. So I go in there and then literally, my. Like person is holding up my name, my little paper. And then a guy literally goes.

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• 47:10Drew Afualo?

  And there's two photographers. Like you couldn't spare one frame. You don't even have to put it on Getty, bitch. You could just pretend.

• 47:17Speaker 01

  I have the best story about basically that exact same thing. So I went to in London. They have like different, I don't know what it's like. I've not been to many LA premieres, but in London they have like different like hierarchies of premier. So like they always do them in Leicester Square where you were for the Argyle one.

• 47:31Drew Afualo?

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  And they'll either block out the entire thing. Like it's the new like movie of Harry Potter and like everyone in the world wants to go to this premiere.

• 47:39Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Or it would be like half of it, whatever. This was whole shebang. It was Top Gun with, what's he called? Tom Cruise.

• 47:45Drew Afualo?

  Okay, yeah.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Me, that irrelevant guy.

• 47:48Drew Afualo?

  What's that motherfuckers name?

• 47:49Speaker 01

  How many followers does he even have?

• 47:52Speaker 01

  Never heard of him, bro. So it was, it was Top Gun premiere. They had this actual to scale plane fighter jet. So you could queue to get a picture like with the, like the press pictures. I'm talking a wall of paparazzi. Like it must be 20 cameras easily. So I queue up, I get in line. I'm, it's finally my turn. I go to stand in front of the fighter jet. I adjust my suit. He's like, oh, my rings. Okay, okay. It's not, every single camera.

• 48:22Speaker 01

  Turns away from me in unison, turns away from me. I'm like, what the fuck is going on here?

• 48:30Drew Afualo?

  You guys all synced up or something all of a sudden?

• 48:33Speaker 01

  Was there not in the group text, like, what the fuck is going on? Tom Cruise has entered the carpet, that selfish bastard. I look over, I'm like, do you not have enough, Tom? Do you not have enough, do you realise that I keep?

• 48:42Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, get another pick.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, geez.

• 48:44Drew Afualo?

  Get another one.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  I'm like, right, okay, I literally stayed stood there whilst they're all doing it because I think someone's eventually got to at least come back. And this woman just shouts to me, she goes, it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  I said, oh my.

• 49:03Drew Afualo?

  Right, perfect, okay, perfect, thank you.

• 49:05Speaker 01

  I said, are the missiles working in that fighter jet? Strap me up right now. Like, I was horrified and it gets worse.

• 49:12Drew Afualo?

  Just for that, I'm gonna join Scientology. Just for that?

• 49:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 49:15Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna join Scientology, it's your guys' fault.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  I can't even believe it, this story gets even worse because then, when I got in eventually to the premiere, obviously, my head hung in shame. I was devastated by the events that had just occurred. I arrive in my seat and as it starts, I find that we're in a 4DX cinema.

• 49:34Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, the ones that like move the seats.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  So I'm moving around and I, a little bit of a fact about me, I get very bad motion sickness.

• 49:42Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah, me too.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  So I am currently watching a movie about fighter jets in the front row of a cinema in a 4DX, so I'm literally like, I'm being rattled around. I vomit. I ran from the front row to the bathroom, vomit, spurting, do you know when like people try to catch it in their hands? And it's like spurting out?

• 50:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  So I, it's like spurting out, I get to the bathroom, it's gone everywhere, it's gone everywhere. I've got vomit on my trousers, on my blazer, I'm calling my boyfriend, get the fuck to the bathroom now, get to the bathroom. He eventually comes and we're like, I said, we've got to go, I can't watch this film, like, this is, this is hell, like, I'm like, Tom Cruise has clearly got it out for me, like, what?

• 50:25Drew Afualo?

  He fucking hates me.

• 50:26Speaker 01

  Like, does he want blood? Like, what more can I do for this man? Like, so we go to leave the cinema and I'm like, right, okay, like, at least we'll just have to go, I'll explain to everyone, like, I was sick, like, that's normal, that happens at the cinema, I'm sure. And as I'm leaving, I go to open the door to go out to like the main body of the cinema and there's someone stood in front of the door, Tom fucking Cruise.

• 50:48Speaker 01

  Tom, I opened-

• 50:49Drew Afualo?

  Imagine you're like, "You."

• 50:51Speaker 01

  I was like soaked in vomit. I was like, "What the fuck is going on here now, Tom Cruise?" Like-

• 50:57Drew Afualo?

  Do you know what you've done to me today?

• 50:59Speaker 01

  I couldn't believe it. He was doing interviews and getting pictures right there and he goes-

• 51:03Drew Afualo?

  Blocking you in-

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I opened the door into him. It physically banged him out the way. This woman goes, "What are you doing?" I said, "I'm trying to get out, love. I've been through hell."

• 51:14Drew Afualo?

  Also, you have shit all over you, by the way.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  Also, are you aware that you're currently vomiting?

• 51:19Drew Afualo?

  Also, you smell weird. Dude, that is-

• 51:23Speaker 01

  I couldn't believe it.

• 51:24Drew Afualo?

  You go out, you're like, "As if you haven't taken enough."

• 51:26Speaker 01

  Oh, Tom Cruise. Like, like, you're cruising for a bruising, bro.

• 51:31Drew Afualo?

  You and Tom Cruise are beefing.

• 51:33Speaker 01

  Literally, like, and that man is small. I was, I'd never been more tempted to just like, yeah, yeah, I could have, I could have hit that man.

• 51:40Drew Afualo?

  You're like, "This is the worst night of my life."

• 51:41Speaker 01

  I couldn't believe it. Like, what do you have against me, Tom? What, what have we been through? Like, it was hell.

• 51:47Drew Afualo?

  He said, "What time's Max gonna be there?" Yeah, I'll be there.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  Ready to rock his shit.

• 51:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. This will be the night he never forgets.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  And it was. And it was.

• 51:57Drew Afualo?

  Imagine he was someone you like, were mean to once in grade school. He's like, "You don't remember me, do you?" He's like a hundred. He's like 50 years old.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  Oh, and I got offered to interview him for something afterwards. And that thing that I submitted, I was like, "Well, I have to tell him this story."

• 52:12Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 52:13Speaker 01

  And they were like, "No, we're not letting you near Tom Cruise."

• 52:17Speaker 01

  And I was like, "That's actually really fair. Yeah, that makes sense."

• 52:19Drew Afualo?

  That's so crazy. And vomiting too while you do it.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Vomiting at a movie premiere because of motion sickness to Top Gun is like, what is going on?

• 52:32Drew Afualo?

  That's so funny. That's, it's, mine's not as bad as that, but like, my very first big carpet ever was the movie Ambulance. Don't know if anyone's seen it.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Nope.

• 52:45Drew Afualo?

  Starring, I think, Jake Gyllenhaal and I forget who else. But I remember, like, when I walked, that was my very first time. So I was holding a bag and wearing a jacket because I literally had no fucking clue how to do a carpet. So when I walked, first of all, it wasn't bad enough. Like, the girl who walked me was like, not my team. She was just someone who was like walking me. And she wrote my name on a piece of paper that was like this big and then was holding it. It was like a Laffy Taffy. She was like, "No?" And then she was going like this. And then she was out loud going, "No?" No, okay. And I was like, you don't need to audibly confirm to me like that they said, fuck, no, I don't care about that bitch. And then as soon as they finally, I had some takers.

• 53:27Drew Afualo?

  I was like, okay, period. And I start posing, I'm like, oh my God, like, cause it seemed like it was, the energy was coming alive again. And I was like, okay, period. Yeah, I'm standing there. And then Jason Momoa was walking right fucking next to me. Why the fuck was he there? Because he's not in the movie. I literally was like, and what's this bitch doing here?

• 53:46Speaker 01

  Do you not have enough going on, Jason?

• 53:48Drew Afualo?

  And he was right behind me and literally he's like, Jason, Jason. And then I, I was like, kind of still standing there. And then at 1.1 guy goes, can you move?

• 53:56Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 53:57Drew Afualo?

  And I go, yes, I can. Yes. Perfect. We got the shot, guys. We got the shot.

• 54:06Drew Afualo?

  And it's funny because Jason Momoa obviously doesn't know this at all, or remember that night. Nor does he know that like my man, because of the long hair has been compared to him for years. So like when Aquaman came out, the first one, it was like hell on earth for both of us. And this is before I was even doing this, because everyone was like, you know who you fucking look like? Um, every fucking where we went, like, and to the point where they started like going, can I take a picture with you? Which my man hates attention.

• 54:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:32Drew Afualo?

  Which works out, because I love attention. So it's perfect. But we're a match made in heaven. Um, but they would like take pictures with him and it was like, getting so annoying to the point where I started workshopping bits. Like I was like, okay, well, if they're gonna ask, I'm gonna make jokes. So they were like, you know, you look like, you look like, you look just like Aquaman. Like they would say that. And then I would be like, thank you. And then they would be like, not you, him. No shit, bitch.

• 54:58Speaker 01

  You pulls a trident out your bag.

• 55:01Drew Afualo?

  And I launch it over the face.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course, naturally. Unsheath the trident.

• 55:06Drew Afualo?

  And so I have beef with him too. And next time I meet him, I will, and you bet your ass, I'm gonna bring it up.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 55:11Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna say, you ruined my very first carpet, literally ever. How do you feel about it?

• 55:14Speaker 01

  As you should. That bastard. Oh, hate him.

• 55:18Drew Afualo?

  Me and Jason Momoa, you and Tom Cruise.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  Easy. I think, I think, I think I would love to see that fight.

• 55:25Drew Afualo?

  Celebrity boxing match.

• 55:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:27Drew Afualo?

  Me and Jason Momoa and you and Tom Cruise.

• 55:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:30Drew Afualo?

  I think that works.

• 55:30Speaker 01

  I could take that little man, that little Scientologist. Easy.

• 55:34Drew Afualo?

  I think so too. I have some fun facts about you.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  Oh, about me?

• 55:38Drew Afualo?

  Yes, about you.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Oh Christ.

• 55:39Drew Afualo?

  So, so we're gonna go through them. Um, this first one says you had a pet turtle named George.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  I did have a pet turtle named, a tortoise.

• 55:48Drew Afualo?

  Oh, a tortoise.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  You would say tortoise, yeah.

• 55:50Drew Afualo?

  Tortoise.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  I am aware that I say that. No, that I think that is also very regional to where I live because when I first started to post it on the internet, I thought that people just loved seeing my tortoise, but they actually just loved hearing me say tortoise. Cause that's not right.

• 56:04Drew Afualo?

  You are saying it very weird.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  I'm saying tortoise quite a lot, yeah. Uh, yeah, so one of my first, one of my first like viral videos was we lost George in the garden. And we just couldn't find him. So I was like, where the bloody hell is George?

• 56:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:17Speaker 01

  And people loved the way that I said George as well. They were like, George. So I think people just thought I'd had a lobotomy of some kind.

• 56:27Drew Afualo?

  Probably.

• 56:27Speaker 01

  And they were like, what is this weird boy doing?

• 56:29Drew Afualo?

  They were like, oh, he doesn't know how to say things.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I didn't. And I still don't. Um, but yeah, we found him months later. He'd buried himself under the ground, the silly devil. What's he playing at? That's not how you hibernate, lad. What are you playing at?

• 56:44Drew Afualo?

  He's still around?

• 56:44Speaker 01

  He's dead.

• 56:46Drew Afualo?

  Oh, RIP George.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  I killed him.

• 56:48Drew Afualo?

  How?

• 56:49Speaker 01

  I didn't really.

• 56:53Speaker 01

  Your face, man.

• 56:54Drew Afualo?

  I'll tell you how he messed up my carpet pictures.

• 56:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:56Drew Afualo?

  And he'll think twice next time.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was my grass, my shrub. He, he, he chose the wrong day to dig himself in my shrub. Okay.

• 57:03Drew Afualo?

  You'll think twice next time.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, natural causes.

• 57:06Drew Afualo?

  Oh.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  Bless him, died in hibernation.

• 57:07Drew Afualo?

  What a beautiful name though, George.

• 57:08Speaker 01

  Isn't it?

• 57:09Drew Afualo?

  Love that.

• 57:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:10Drew Afualo?

  Okay, it says you moved to London by yourself in the summer of 2019.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  I did not. That is false. I moved.

• 57:18Drew Afualo?

  Wow, Amanda, strike three.

• 57:19Speaker 01

  In the, close though, 2020.

• 57:21Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 57:21Speaker 01

  So I'll give, I'll give Amanda that. Uh, because I saw, I saw the clips from, uh, of every fact that was incorrect about Britney.

• 57:29Drew Afualo?

  Oh, about Britney's and I said, yeah, we're keeping a tab. I'm telling everyone, write that down.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  So that's strike one.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Yes, moved to London by myself. I went to do an internship at L'Oréal.

• 57:39Drew Afualo?

  Oh, nice.

• 57:40Speaker 01

  Loved it. Worked as the digital marketing intern there, which I felt like I was in Devil Wears Prada. It was really cool. Like, I was-

• 57:48Drew Afualo?

  You're giving Andy.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  Hundred percent, hundred percent. It was, it was so fun to work at like a really cool company like that and being from such a small countryside town-

• 57:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 57:59Speaker 01

  For them being in like one of the biggest cities in the world. It was so cool.

• 58:02Drew Afualo?

  What's your favorite like traditional British cuisine?

• 58:06Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 58:07Drew Afualo?

  I'd love to know what your favorite is.

• 58:08Speaker 01

  I'm about to fuck your shit up because you're gonna say that this sounds like the most disgusting thing in the entire world and you could be right.

• 58:14Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 58:15Speaker 01

  But to me, we have, you've heard of Greg's. I mean, I'm sure if you've been to London, you've probably been and got a sausage roll or whatever.

• 58:21Drew Afualo?

  Yes, yeah, yeah.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  They also have this thing there called a sausage bean and cheese melt.

• 58:27Drew Afualo?

  Okay, tea.

• 58:28Speaker 01

  There is a pastry that has baked beans in it, cheddar cheese and clumps of sausages baked into it.

• 58:34Drew Afualo?

  I might be open to that.

• 58:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:36Drew Afualo?

  I might be open to trying it.

• 58:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:37Drew Afualo?

  I didn't love the beans there. You guys love beans there.

• 58:41Speaker 01

  We weirdly grow up-

• 58:42Drew Afualo?

  And peas.

• 58:43Speaker 01

  Peas is mushy. Have you ever had mushy peas?

• 58:45Drew Afualo?

  A lot of people told me to have mushy peas and I was like, I don't even wanna open that door.

• 58:50Speaker 01

  She's a bit intimidating. I used to work, my first job, I worked in a chippy, which is a fish and chip shop.

• 58:56Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 58:56Speaker 01

  So I would make for the people. I'd be stirring the mushy peas. I'd be serving it. I did it for, I, I worked for two pound fifty an hour, which is the equivalent of what, like three dollars an hour? Which sounds illegal, probably was.

• 59:11Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  And I fucking loved it. Batter in that fish. You'd get the locals that would come in, mental. Like, there's something about, like, there's stories that people have who grew up in the south of America.

• 59:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  And like, maybe they like moved to a city and then they start to, at first they're like, oh, get me away from that. But then when they actually moved to the city, they start to appreciate some things about like their home. Yeah.

• 59:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  I really appreciate like someone called Susan, who has like seven kids, all boys, all boys. She's got three teeth and she came in every single week and tried to butter me down for fish and chips. And I just think, what a woman.

• 59:46Drew Afualo?

  Love her.

• 59:47Speaker 01

  What a woman.

• 59:47Drew Afualo?

  Need her.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:48Drew Afualo?

  She's the best. That's so funny. I think I did have fish and chips at a pub and they had peas on the plate. Didn't try them, but the fish and chips- That shit was fire.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  Bomb.

• 59:57Drew Afualo?

  Loved it.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  So good.

• 59:59Drew Afualo?

  With all that vinegar and shit on it.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  So good. Do you know what I'm trying to wrap my head around now is American cuisine. Cause especially in the last year, I've spent a lot of time in LA, New York. And I, my body still is not adjusted. Every time I come here, I ever, I was in the bath like two days ago. Nearly shit myself in the bath because of the food. Like there's something going on. Like the, the chemicals that are just in the everyday foods here.

• 1:00:21Drew Afualo?

  It's true, yeah.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  I don't understand it. I ordered a Joe and the Juice this morning.

• 1:00:25Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:25Speaker 01

  The exact same sandwich that I order in London almost every single day. It was like twice the calories and tasted completely different. But it tasted good, like it tasted really good, but it tasted like it wasn't good for me. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:00:38Drew Afualo?

  Like in the long run.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:40Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 1:00:40Speaker 01

  It scares me.

• 1:00:41Drew Afualo?

  I, I was talking about this with my sister recently, but like I see a guy that does pie and mash. He has like owns one of those stores.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:49Drew Afualo?

  And he does like with the stewed eels and the liquor and all of that.

• 1:00:53Speaker 01

  That's very northern.

• 1:00:54Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah. I was, I watch him do that all the time and I'm like, that looks fucking terrible. Unfortunately, I will have to try it though. Like the next time I go, I, I need to see what it's about.

• 1:01:05Speaker 01

  It's strange. I grew up, I once, um, cause I, when I first went to university, I couldn't cook at all. I'd never witnessed like a family that knew how to cook. Like, um, so when I got with my first boyfriend, I, I, oh, when I first went to university, I nearly got scurvy. Do you know what scurvy is?

• 1:01:22Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  It's like what pirates get.

• 1:01:24Drew Afualo?

  The pirate's disease, yes.

• 1:01:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I nearly got that due to lack of nutrition, because all the food that I was eating was frozen. And then I got with my first boyfriend and he saw me get a full chicken breast, put it in the oven raw. And sprinkle like gravy granules on top, thinking that would like season it and cook into the chicken. And that's when he said like, this is an emergency situation. We need to sort something here. And then I would reflect on like my grandma, I'd go to, uh, my grandma's house every day after school. And we'd sit around like a pot of like water, beef, potatoes and carrots. And then there'd be a loaf of bread in the middle that would, we'd just butter and we'd all be fighting over the butter. I sound like fucking Oliver Twist, don't I? Oh my god, but like, that is what I grew up on.

• 1:02:07Drew Afualo?

  You have a Tiny Tim head ass meal.

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, so no wonder. I come here, I go to the Olive Garden for one day and I shit in the bath. Because my body can't take it.

• 1:02:15Drew Afualo?

  Shitting myself everywhere. Cause you're eating like a World War One survivor.

• 1:02:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:22Drew Afualo?

  Okay, another fun fact. Obviously, it says your original life plan was to go to university, study digital marketing, which we know. Also, you were a contestant on the most recent season of I'm a Celebrity Get Out of Here Australia. Very fun. And the last fun one says, can Max explain this scholar's travel pass from 2014?

• 1:02:46Speaker 01

  What the fuck?

• 1:02:47Drew Afualo?

  You look British as hell in this picture.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  What the fuck?

• 1:02:51Drew Afualo?

  You look like He-Man.

• 1:02:52Speaker 01

  How was?

• 1:02:56Speaker 01

  How have you found that?

• 1:02:58Drew Afualo?

  I don't know.

• 1:02:58Speaker 01

  Amanda, points for Amanda. Amanda, you ate.

• 1:03:02Drew Afualo?

  She has.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, you ate Amanda.

• 1:03:04Drew Afualo?

  She has some misses, but when she hits, she hits hard.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  Amanda, you hit to the core. How the fuck did you find that?

• 1:03:11Drew Afualo?

  You look so cute.

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  That was around the time that I first went to Florida with my family to go to Disneyland and I got misgendered the entire trip. Brilliant times, brilliant times. Hey, little missy, come upon here.

• 1:03:24Drew Afualo?

  They said, are you happy to be Disneyland little princess?

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, everywhere I went, everywhere I went. Yeah, to be fair, I have a bob and bangs.

• 1:03:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you look delightfully British.

• 1:03:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:35Drew Afualo?

  But so cute.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  Oh my god. I completely forgot that that picture existed. Wow. That was my bus pass for school. I had to show that every day to get on the bus, to get on the school bus. And I had to have that same picture up until I was 16 years old. I submitted for it to be changed every year and they wouldn't let me.

• 1:03:54Drew Afualo?

  Why?

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  I don't know. I think that it was like, I think somebody liked it. I don't know.

• 1:03:58Drew Afualo?

  Someone said nah, make him keep it. That's funny.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  You found that? That's iconic.

• 1:04:02Drew Afualo?

  That is so, you look very cute.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Where was that? I don't even know where that will be. Probably on my Instagram or something. Yeah. Snaps for a manta.

• 1:04:10Drew Afualo?

  You guys have to have, uh, these little travel passes to take the bus?

• 1:04:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, so we had to, um, oh my god, yeah. And the school bus in the UK is so different to an American school bus energy. Like, I'm talking on the way to school, we had double-decker buses.

• 1:04:24Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:04:24Speaker 01

  So I would sit with my friends at the front on the top level.

• 1:04:27Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  And as the years progressed, you would move back in the bus.

• 1:04:31Drew Afualo?

  The older you got.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, but at the beginning, we loved it because we'd go under this bridge every day where there would be loads of pigeons that lived. So every day, picture this, a bunch of British school kids going, ooh, and then you'd kill a pigeon. Cause the bus would run into a pigeon and everyone would cheer.

• 1:04:51Drew Afualo?

  Why?

• 1:04:52Speaker 01

  I don't know. We'd cheer. We'd be like, yeah, we got one. What? That's horrible.

• 1:04:59Drew Afualo?

  You're like, yeah, they are a little different from American school buses. Yeah, you're right. They're way fucking different from American schools.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Guys, we're not hunter-gatherers. Like, why are we, why are we so excited about the death of this bird?

• 1:05:09Drew Afualo?

  Pigeons. Yeah, got them.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  Really weird, but loved that. Yeah, loved the school bus. Great times, great times.

• 1:05:16Drew Afualo?

  Lots of bonding, uh, uh, watching pigeons die.

• 1:05:20Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:05:20Drew Afualo?

  Bonding over your travel pass, obviously.

• 1:05:24Speaker 01

  Not the travel pastures, guys.

• 1:05:26Drew Afualo?

  Well, I fucking love you.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:29Drew Afualo?

  I adore you.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  I love you too.

• 1:05:30Drew Afualo?

  I think you're so funny and so sweet. I'm so glad we got to see you for so long. And I'm so happy to see how much you've been hosting and doing so many more things. I think you're a fucking gem.

• 1:05:40Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you so much. It's such a weird career path to go down. Like I said, I didn't think that this would be my life and I'm so grateful that it is. And to have the opportunities to, you know, do red carpets, like I've, um, I've just started my own interview series show that you're coming on after this.

• 1:05:57Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:05:58Speaker 01

  It's called Performance Review and, um, that is like, the fact that I have a show where I interview people and it's like all from my brain and it's like so thematically done and it's so stupid and camp and lovely. And the fact that I get to do stuff like that.

• 1:06:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  It's like we've literally won the lottery.

• 1:06:16Drew Afualo?

  No, truly, I feel the same way.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  The lottery, like I, I work, one of my best friends is my assistant. I hired her like two years ago because I, I look at the state of the world now and I'm like, oh my God, it's so difficult and I just feel so grateful to, to get to do what we get to do. And we, yeah, it's just been so amazing to get to know you during this episode. Like I think that you are sick. I think your career is so inspiring.

• 1:06:39Drew Afualo?

  Thank you, likewise.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  But I'm not gonna like make out with you now. I'm gonna, I'm gonna compliment you on.

• 1:06:44Drew Afualo?

  We'll save that for your show. We'll make out over there.

• 1:06:47Speaker 01

  Indeed, yeah.

• 1:06:48Drew Afualo?

  But I think you're amazing and so lovely and I'm so happy for you. I'm, I hope if this is a dream of yours, I would love to see you host the Great British Baking Show.

• 1:06:56Speaker 01

  Oh my God, that is absolutely a dream of mine.

• 1:06:58Drew Afualo?

  Love for you to do that. I think you would thrive in that.

• 1:07:02Speaker 01

  Alison Hammond needs a, a, you know, a frail, grey skinned looking white boy.

• 1:07:07Drew Afualo?

  Whenever Noel decides to retire, I think you and Alison would take it.

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:07:11Drew Afualo?

  I think you would eat it.

• 1:07:12Speaker 01

  Hundred percent. Oh, soggy bottoms all the way, right?

• 1:07:17Drew Afualo?

  They owe you one soggy bottom, obviously. Do you have, just to kind of close this out, do you have any advice for any other aspiring, whether it's like hosts, interviewers, or like even social people, people who want to be personalities for a living? Like, do you have any advice for any of them?

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  Do you know what I always say is know your worth and stand up for yourself when you need to. That exact story of that woman saying, no, I actually don't want to do that. Cause I've had that exact same experience where someone's been so rude to me.

• 1:07:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  And then they've come over to do something and I've gone, actually, there's power in knowing your worth. You're not on the beck and call of every single big company and all of this. Like, if you show yourself and people respond to that, you are making your own media company.

• 1:07:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  You are, Drew Afualo is a media enterprise. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:08:01Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 1:08:02Speaker 01

  And that's the direction that things are going in. So don't feel afraid to water, like never water yourself down.

• 1:08:08Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 1:08:08Speaker 01

  Um, and that's when you'll really see success, so.

• 1:08:10Drew Afualo?

  Period. Perfect advice. I love you.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  And fuck Tom Cruise.

• 1:08:15Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and fuck Tom Cruise, by the way.

• 1:08:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you, you guys are gonna celebrity boxing match, obviously.

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Easy.

• 1:08:22Drew Afualo?

  And then me and Jason Momoa will open up for you. It'll be a little appetizer for everybody. But thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the comment section show. Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Max Balegde. Where can everybody find you for the five people who maybe don't know?

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  Max underscore Balegde on all socials, that's B A L E G D E.

• 1:08:41Drew Afualo?

  T, and you'll see Max literally everywhere. You're like the British Ryan Seacrest.

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  In the shrubs.

• 1:08:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, in the shrubs, in the bathroom at Tom Cruise's movie premiere.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  Told you museum. Recruiting people in the streets.

• 1:08:54Drew Afualo?

  Exactly, obviously, and then eating pig nipples or whatever it is you said earlier.

• 1:08:59Speaker 01

  Save that for my show, alright? Kick your top off for now, love.

• 1:09:05Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much to my amazing guest, Max. Thank you all for tuning in. Don't forget, the comment section drops every Wednesday. You can stream the audios on all streaming platforms, but the video list is free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. Thank you so much to my amazing guest. Thank you all so much for watching and I'll see you next week. Bye.