ONE OF EVERYTHING, SHOPKEEP! Ft. Latrice Royale | Episode 165

This week Drew is joined by the legendary Latrice Royale!! They talk Latrice’s love for Golden Girls, her engagement story, the stoner lifestyle, how writing hate mail got her cast on Drag Race, smoking out a church choir, and so much more. Shop Billie in-store and at https://www.mybillie.com https://www.mybillie.com/ Latrice IG: https://www.instagram.com/latriceroyale/?hl=en Latrice Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@latriceroyaleinc?lang=en Follow The Comment Section on IG! https://www.instagram.com/thecommentsection/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy https://acast.com/privacy for more information.

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• 1:03Drew Afualo?

  You look good, bitch. You look fucking good.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  You know black don't crack unless you smoke it.

• 1:16Drew Afualo?

  Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show. Sorry, me, your favorite, everybody knows me, who cares about me. Onto the guest today, we have the iconic, the legendary, the unbelievably talented Latrice Royale.

• 1:31Drew Afualo?

  Welcome to the show, queen.

• 1:33Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:34Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, I'm so happy to have you.

• 1:35Speaker 03

  Girl, this has been a long time.

• 1:35Drew Afualo?

  It has, we've been passing ships for a while.

• 1:38Speaker 03

  Like, literally a couple of years.

• 1:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I've had, I've had several people, several hundred thousand people, comment, "You should have Latrice, you should have Latrice." I said, "Bitch, I'm trying."

• 1:48Speaker 03

  We trying.

• 1:48Drew Afualo?

  She's busy and successful, and I'm waiting.

• 1:53Drew Afualo?

  And I'm sitting around, open and available.

• 1:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, but hey, hey. For a coin, though.

• 2:03Drew Afualo?

  I think you are so fantastic and I'm so happy we finally got to link up.

• 2:07Speaker 03

  Oh likewise, I've been you know following, watching and you know stalking.

• 2:11Drew Afualo?

  Obviously, I know everything about you.

• 2:13Speaker 03

  Oh you do?

• 2:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course I do and we also have fun facts but we'll get to those.

• 2:17Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:17Drew Afualo?

  Before that.

• 2:20Speaker 03

  How much you dug up?

• 2:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 2:23Drew Afualo?

  I know, we're entering a real Nardwar era.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  I mean.

• 2:27Drew Afualo?

  Where we're trying to really unearth some really fun things.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  I like that.

• 2:32Drew Afualo?

  So obviously, I'm sure as most people know, obviously you did very well on Drag Race. But I would love to know your lore, like how you or other people to know your lore of how you came into drag, how you like kind of discovered drag or discovered yourself through drag.

• 2:45Speaker 03

  Well, that's more like what happened because I did not want to do no drag. Like that was not on my radar, gaydar, in the art, none. And it was a dare, my friends were daring me, they're like, I would be lip syncing. Now I was always lip syncing.

• 2:59Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  Give me some I'm every woman and I was that woman.

• 3:02Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 3:04Speaker 03

  But I never thought I would do drag, but we used to go to drag shows and watch the girls and the boogers and we just like, girl, you should do drag. I'm like, no.

• 3:13Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  So but I did it for Halloween, I was one of the friends in the color.

• 3:17Drew Afualo?

  Okay, gee.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  And I thought that was gonna be the end of it, but no, they convinced me to do the amateur show.

• 3:26Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  At the local bar at Copacabana in Fort Lauderdale.

• 3:29Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 3:29Speaker 03

  And I was horrible. Girl, I got out there, because let me tell you, first of all, there was no Amazon Prime back then. We talking thirty-three years ago.

• 3:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 3:40Speaker 03

  So there was no size sixteen pump readily available at my doorstep. I could just order up a hairpiece, you know, go on YouTube, there was none of that.

• 3:48Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 3:49Speaker 03

  Going on. So we got creative and I went out there, we found some gold liquid la may in a bodysuit. So we pinned up the gold liquid la may on one leg and then made a turban. I went out there and did a lyrical dance piece at the drag show and baby they said, oh no.

• 4:06Drew Afualo?

  A lyrical dance?

• 4:07Speaker 03

  Lyrical dance piece, because I'm a color gray queen.

• 4:10Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  So I used my dancing.

• 4:12Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  To distract from my drag.

• 4:16Drew Afualo?

  That'd work.

• 4:16Speaker 03

  Nope. No damn. They said not on tonight. And as a matter of fact, here's a fashion citation, don't ever wear that shit again.

• 4:24Drew Afualo?

  They said, you owe me money.

• 4:26Speaker 03

  For real, we want, we want our free drink back, like, for real.

• 4:30Drew Afualo?

  My two drink minimum.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  It was horrible, but ironically, like, I came back the next week and won the contest. And that was the beginning of a never ending story. And so here I am.

• 4:41Drew Afualo?

  You said, I found something.

• 4:43Speaker 03

  I found something, and like, when you find it, I mean, I'm a ham, too. So like, if you gonna scream and yell for me, I'm gonna do a little bit more. This is how I gonna go down.

• 4:55Drew Afualo?

  Oh, you love attention? Yeah, I know all about that.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  That part, so here we are.

• 5:01Drew Afualo?

  I know, I've joked about it, because I'm in drag all the time, too, when I do.

• 5:03Speaker 03

  You are done.

• 5:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm dragged out right now.

• 5:06Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 5:07Drew Afualo?

  But I, I always tell people that, I'm like, you have to love attention to some extent to do this.

• 5:11Speaker 03

  You do, you have to.

• 5:13Drew Afualo?

  And I love it.

• 5:14Speaker 03

  And here we are, biggest narcissist in the world.

• 5:19Drew Afualo?

  Right, for real.

• 5:20Speaker 03

  Me, me.

• 5:23Drew Afualo?

  Oh, look at me, I'm so stunning.

• 5:24Speaker 03

  I'm so stunning, and you are.

• 5:26Drew Afualo?

  What was it, as are you, what was it that really drew you to it, like, other than the attention, obviously?

• 5:32Speaker 03

  Well, the performance art of it, like, to be able to like, completely transform and move an audience, like, and control a room, and a vibe.

• 5:40Drew Afualo?

  Entertain.

• 5:41Speaker 03

  That's, that's the whole thing, and that's a whole different kind of skill set and level of excellence. And so, when I found out that I had something special, that I could do that, I really leaned into it, and like, wanted to hone it.

• 5:55Drew Afualo?

  Hell yeah.

• 5:56Speaker 03

  Because, again, it's that the ego.

• 6:01Drew Afualo?

  That definitely didn't hurt.

• 6:02Speaker 03

  It didn't hurt.

• 6:02Drew Afualo?

  That's why I said, why do you think we do it for no money, for so long?

• 6:04Speaker 03

  For so long, that's why you call it the struggle, honey. Yeah, we will struggle, go hungry, and we had to be crafty, like, we had to be crafty and create our own drag and looks and things. I made things out of cardboard, but it looked sickening on stage. But don't get it wet.

• 6:22Drew Afualo?

  That's all that matters.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  That's all that matters.

• 6:24Drew Afualo?

  I've had a, I've had, obviously, I've had so many queens on the show and a lot of them have said too that they think bad drag is a rite of passage.

• 6:31Speaker 03

  It is.

• 6:32Drew Afualo?

  It's like an essential piece of your drag journey.

• 6:34Speaker 03

  If you're not booger your first time out, you're not doing drag, for real, for real.

• 6:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 6:38Speaker 03

  And so these lollipop guilds that just came out here with the YouTube material that come out polished with their coiffed hair and the perfect makeup and

• 6:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 6:46Speaker 03

  Girl, you have not struggled.

• 6:48Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 6:49Speaker 03

  You are not doing drag.

• 6:51Drew Afualo?

  That's why I, because I've asked, like, obviously, social media has completely shifted

• 6:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:55Drew Afualo?

  the, the drag scene, especially RuPaul's Drag Race becoming so popular outside of the community it's geared towards, like, it kind of, and drag queens becoming so popular amongst other audiences that they're not normally gravitating towards. So, all of that has kind of shifted the drag scene. And so, that's why I've asked my, uh, the queens I've had on the show before, like, if they have any opinions on how social media has kind of shifted drag.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  It really has shifted though. I mean, like, it's just, it, for me, I mean, it has its positives and negatives.

• 7:26Drew Afualo?

  It's like pros and cons.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, with everything, you know, and I'm all for evolution and I'm glad that we've evolved and I'm glad that drag has um, taken the place and space that it is because we need tools and we need people to make things for us as well, you know what I mean? And that was the struggle for so long, we just didn't have the

• 7:44Drew Afualo?

  The visibility.

• 7:44Speaker 03

  Visibility and it wasn't cool.

• 7:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  You know what I mean?

• 7:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 7:49Speaker 03

  And now, the girls on daytime TV are in drag, girl.

• 7:54Drew Afualo?

  They're in drag.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  Full out, full beat, glitter lips, girl, I'm like, 301, I'm like, really? Where are you going?

• 8:02Drew Afualo?

  Middle part busts out.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  Bust down, like, for real, where are you going?

• 8:07Drew Afualo?

  Even the men, like, male, I watched, um, I was watching something, I forget where I was, it was in a hotel. But, um, it was like a sports commentator show and they were sitting at that table and all the men beat down bitch, contoured out.

• 8:20Speaker 03

  Contour painted.

• 8:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and contour muddy, but still contour.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  Contoured.

• 8:25Drew Afualo?

  It's muddy but and bad, but I can see it. Which is why I find it so shocking when people are so. Uh judgmental or prejudiced about drag queens because I'm like, you have no idea. There is like and now it's so like, uh like you said, it's all cool now. Even not to everyone, but to a lot more people. Yeah, but it's also, it's like, I feel like drag as as an art form has been the genesis of most, if not all, popular. Makeup techniques, wig techniques, hair techniques, like all of that shit. All the shit that it, y'all have been new.

• 9:01Speaker 03

  Been done.

• 9:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's why I was like, uh, you guys weren't there in the air spun powder days. You don't get it. You don't get it. Getting clown lung, you don't get it.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  Baby.

• 9:15Drew Afualo?

  The girls don't get it.

• 9:16Speaker 03

  They don't get it. Cause y'all got good product now.

• 9:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah. No lead in your makeup.

• 9:23Speaker 03

  No glass. Like fiberglass, there's some powders that would like cut you up.

• 9:29Drew Afualo?

  Right. Uh, I, so when you were uh in the drag scene fully and then you were working your way. Towards Drag Race, like how did that come into the picture, like wanting to try for Drag Race?

• 9:39Speaker 03

  Well, okay, so I I was working locally and. Gigging and just doing the things and it was. Constant, consistent and. I wasn't really advancing in my career. I wasn't, you know, like before Drag Race. Pageants were the way to like get nationally known and things like that. But I found that wasn't, I was trying for pageants too, but that was not really my destiny child either. So. So, um, literally I was, when Drag Race came out, I was a fan. I was watching it from season one.

• 10:20Speaker 03

  Season two, I was even more into it. Couldn't believe it. I was like, bitch, look, like, Brupal on TV blurry as hell, but she on there. Logo, honey. She was back in the day, the old G's know. She was not cute. She got budget now. She got that MTV money.

• 10:37Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 10:39Speaker 03

  But. Season three was what really solidified the fact that I needed to go ahead and audition because I was really rooting for the big girls. They had Delta Works, Stacy Lane Matthews. I was rooting for these girls, you know? And Delta was holding her own, baby. Delta was showing me what big girls supposed to look like.

• 10:58Drew Afualo?

  I love it.

• 10:58Speaker 03

  She put her stuff where it's supposed to go. You know what I mean? I love that.

• 11:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  And then there was Stacy.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  Girl.

• 11:11Speaker 03

  Stacy over there crying because she fat. Nobody told her because she was fat before she got there. Girl, I don't know what.

• 11:19Drew Afualo?

  You said you just found out?

• 11:20Speaker 03

  You just found out, girl? You didn't know? Girl, the thing, what is you crying for? Own this shit. Don't let this be a hindrance. Like, she was very down on, like, she was.

• 11:33Speaker 03

  And that drove me nuts. So I went to my room.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  And I'm like, I'm gonna find these people. I looked up the email address. I found a world of wonder at dot net.

• 11:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 11:44Speaker 03

  So I just wrote some random at that email to who it may concern. I am tired of these fat girls getting on your show crying about being fat. I'm not even charged. I did. I was talking shit. I'm not even charged. Chuck the F bucket. I can show you better than I can tell you. Here's my pictures, my phone number. Give a bitch a call.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  I didn't know they were casting, girl.

• 12:06Drew Afualo?

  You just wrote hate mail?

• 12:07Speaker 03

  I just wrote hate mail. Because I was mad. Talking shit. I was mad. And they called me two days later talking about, we loved your email.

• 12:19Drew Afualo?

  That's so much, oh.

• 12:21Speaker 03

  I was like.

• 12:21Drew Afualo?

  You forgetting you sent it?

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Completely.

• 12:23Drew Afualo?

  You sent it in a rage?

• 12:25Speaker 03

  In a rage. And didn't think nothing else about it. And they called me talking about, we loved your email. We want you to get your tape in like ASAP. We want to push you through.

• 12:33Drew Afualo?

  They said, get that girl in my office.

• 12:36Speaker 03

  That part. I was like.

• 12:38Drew Afualo?

  She's gonna be a star.

• 12:39Speaker 03

  I wrote them on a Tuesday. They wrote me, call me on Thursday.

• 12:46Speaker 03

  And they wanted my tape in by Monday.

• 12:48Drew Afualo?

  Shit, okay.

• 12:50Speaker 03

  I was like, girl, I got bookings all weekend. I am busy. I ain't got time for this.

• 12:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 12:54Speaker 03

  And she was like, don't worry about making it pretty. Just answer the prompts and show us your closet and send it.

• 13:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, they just want to see you, your personality.

• 13:03Speaker 03

  And baby, there was one old tape. RuPaul remembers my tape very, very vividly.

• 13:09Drew Afualo?

  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

• 13:10Speaker 03

  It was horrible, girl. All you saw was teeth and eyes because it was dark. Because I did my whole tape on a Yahoo webcam.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  I'm telling you, it ain't about all the production value. This is about you.

• 13:24Drew Afualo?

  You don't know the fights I fought.

• 13:28Speaker 03

  You don't understand. So, yeah, but they, they loved my tape. And then boop, boop, boop, boop, I got on my first try and I wasn't even trying. I was just talking shit.

• 13:39Drew Afualo?

  And hey.

• 13:39Speaker 03

  And hey.

• 13:40Drew Afualo?

  Is it, who am I to question God's plan?

• 13:42Speaker 03

  That's what it was. But I was really wanting to like advance and change my life. I needed to do.

• 13:47Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely. It was like written in the stars for you then. I think that's so funny.

• 13:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:53Drew Afualo?

  That what ended up pushing you was being like, I am pissed the fuck off.

• 13:56Speaker 03

  So mad, girl. I'm still kinda mad at her. If you can't tell.

• 14:01Drew Afualo?

  You said I'm reliving the feelings.

• 14:03Speaker 03

  I'm still like mad at her a little bit.

• 14:05Drew Afualo?

  I do remember your very viral meme of saying chunky yet funky. And you had the blue beanie on.

• 14:11Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, yeah.

• 14:12Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, in your, in your interview. And you said chunky yet punky. I remember it very distinctly. Do, do people quote yourself to you all the time?

• 14:19Speaker 03

  All the time.

• 14:20Drew Afualo?

  Is that your most popular one or do you have another more popular one?

• 14:22Speaker 03

  So many. They want me to get their nuts out of their face. The thing of it is, it's funny, like, back then, we weren't produced. I literally was coming in and talking shit. That's what I do. Whatever comes up, comes out.

• 14:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 03

  And I didn't know that I was giving soundbites and catchphrases. I didn't.

• 14:40Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  Until it aired and they were catching on and people were quoting it. I was like, hashtag. I'm like, what is a hashtag? No, I mean, nothing.

• 14:50Drew Afualo?

  You said you guys are making me feel a thousand years old.

• 14:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, I literally had ju- they made me get a Twitter and like, I was like, okay.

• 14:58Drew Afualo?

  Okay, girl. I'll get a Twitter, geez. Well, how was your experience on Drag Race? Every time I talk to the queens, they're always like, it felt like American Ninja Warrior, uh, but I have to know how to sew. And dance and, and perform all at the same time.

• 15:11Speaker 03

  I mean, it depends on much time you're talking about. Which of the three times you're talking about?

• 15:18Drew Afualo?

  I know it changes depending on when you get moneyed up.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:22Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 15:23Speaker 03

  But my, my initial season.

• 15:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  You know, I went in very green and very, um, like trying to do everything that they asked and, but still wanted to hold on to who I was.

• 15:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  Hundred percent. So for me, coming from a pageant background, I felt very like I was in pageant mode.

• 15:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 15:42Speaker 03

  And my whole goal was to, uh, the whole time I was there was like, I just gotta get top five, gotta make top five. Cause I was a pageant, you gotta make top five.

• 15:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:51Speaker 03

  But, um, it was good because it was pure and I found, uh, my purpose.

• 15:58Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  While I was there, I realized that everything that I went through with my hardships and going to prison and all that.

• 16:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:04Speaker 03

  Was all for this reason and for this moment, so I can share my story.

• 16:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  And not just for myself healing, but help others in the process.

• 16:14Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  So like when I found out, I was like, oh, it was like that aha moment, this is your time kind of thing.

• 16:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 16:22Speaker 03

  And, um, so it was really, really, really a positive thing for me.

• 16:25Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's so great. I'm glad your initial experience was so positive. It was like transformative for you.

• 16:32Speaker 03

  The shit namagans.

• 16:34Drew Afualo?

  They said, okay, you got the good one out of the way. Now, now you're gonna have a terrible time.

• 16:37Speaker 03

  Now, here we go. Here we go. Partners. All stars partners. Here we go. Yeah. That part. They got it.

• 16:44Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, Trixie's told me that All Stars is harder because everyone has money and everybody's stunning and gorgeous and everybody gets their costumes made and their wigs made and all that shit. So it's like.

• 16:56Speaker 03

  And you know the production antics.

• 16:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, like you all.

• 16:59Speaker 03

  When you've seen behind the curtain, you know when they pulling some bullshit.

• 17:04Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 17:05Speaker 03

  You're all, girl, here they go. You know.

• 17:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, you said untucked, just unravel it.

• 17:12Drew Afualo?

  Everyone started acting crazy.

• 17:14Speaker 03

  Acting fool, girl.

• 17:17Drew Afualo?

  With all your experiences on all the different versions of Drag Race that you've done, what would you say was like your favorite part of the experience overall? If you had to choose one, was it like lip syncing? Was it the obits? Was it the comedy?

• 17:29Speaker 03

  Oh, like the aspects of the actual challenges?

• 17:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of the challenges itself.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  I love the acting challenges, obviously. And I did not shy away from like dance challenges or anything like that. Because, baby, let's go. Let's five, six, seven, eight, bitches, let's go. It was just like, for me, like the connection with working with my sisters. Like, I gained like a really dear friend through All Stars One with Vanilla. Like, we are like, that's my other, other half. You know what I mean?

• 18:06Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, totally.

• 18:06Speaker 03

  And so like, that's a lifelong situation. That I can't even put a price tag on. So like, the win for me is her.

• 18:14Drew Afualo?

  Isn't that crazy? Like, this industry, you like, don't realize that you meet people that you're like, we were always meant to cross paths. I just didn't think it would be in something like this. Yeah, like at all. I know some of my like best friends now are like women that I met doing this, like doing this as a job and doing this as a career. Which like, I feel like when you're older, you kind of think, like, especially me in TikTok years, I'm 2,000 years old. Like, they think I'm AARP certified on TikTok.

• 18:42Speaker 03

  See, this is why I don't play on that. This is why.

• 18:47Drew Afualo?

  What are you, 32?

• 18:48Speaker 03

  Girl. Girl.

• 18:50Drew Afualo?

  You were in Fort Lauderdale when you were one, obviously, and that was 33 years ago.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  I was a baby. Girl, good thing I shaved or else you would see all this gray, but you could see up here.

• 19:00Drew Afualo?

  No, you look fantastic.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  Thank you. This is 53.

• 19:04Drew Afualo?

  T, you look good, bitch.

• 19:07Speaker 03

  This is 53, honey.

• 19:08Drew Afualo?

  You look fucking good.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  You know black don't crack unless you smoke it.

• 19:14Drew Afualo?

  I'm inclined to believe you.

• 19:15Speaker 03

  Okay, so. There's that.

• 19:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, in TikTok years, I'm two thousand years old, like. Sometimes I'll go to stuff, like events, and then they'll ask me how old I am. Yeah, like when I go to like premieres or like fucking little ass parties.

• 19:31Speaker 03

  I thought you had TikTok events, I was about to say.

• 19:33Drew Afualo?

  They do have those too.

• 19:34Speaker 03

  Girl, no.

• 19:35Drew Afualo?

  Sometimes, yeah.

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 19:36Drew Afualo?

  And then I go, and then they're like, how old are you? And then, right now, I'm gonna be thirty this year. Um, so I would say like, I'm twenty-nine, and then they're like, damn, oh my god, you're like almost thirty.

• 19:47Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 19:48Drew Afualo?

  Fix that tone.

• 19:49Speaker 03

  Okay, first of all. Bitch, wait a minute, back up. And then, wait a minute, that just, you know, that made me think about how they're calling Lexi grandma. Trama, because she's thirty-three. She's the oldest, oldest girl on the show. She's grandma. Can you imagine being a grandma at thirty-three?

• 20:10Drew Afualo?

  No, I cannot. No, I absolutely. I rebuke.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  You're on your way.

• 20:14Drew Afualo?

  I rebuke that.

• 20:15Speaker 03

  Keep blaming TikTok.

• 20:16Drew Afualo?

  In the name of the father. I rebuke.

• 20:18Speaker 03

  Keep blaming TikTok, they're gonna be like, hey, Granny.

• 20:21Drew Afualo?

  I know they call me Auntie sometimes. Yeah, and I said.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  Already?

• 20:25Drew Afualo?

  Yes, uh, they don't take me seriously on that app.

• 20:31Drew Afualo?

  Why would they?

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Why are you here? Now you know.

• 20:34Drew Afualo?

  They're like, oh, Auntie, literally the other, I went to a premiere the other day.

• 20:37Speaker 03

  Oh, that is horrible.

• 20:38Drew Afualo?

  And, um, some, one of, it was like, one of those outlets posted a, a video of me just like posing or whatever. And then I wrote like, I wrote something nice on it, I was like, oh, thanks for this. And someone responded, Auntie, you look so pretty. Delete your fucking comment right now.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  Okay, cause what you're not gonna do, I don't know you. You ain't no kidding to me.

• 20:56Drew Afualo?

  You're not gonna call me out my name.

• 20:58Speaker 03

  Oh, right.

• 21:00Speaker 03

  The disrespect.

• 21:05Drew Afualo?

  I also know you were on, uh, We Are Here.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  We're here, yes.

• 21:08Drew Afualo?

  Yes, and I would, I would love to know how your experience was on that show.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  That was really, now that was the Lord's work, for real, um. Like, I gotta give it up to, to Bob, Shangela, and, and Eureka for being the, you know, matriarchs of the show or whatever, but like, that is real.

• 21:28Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 21:28Speaker 03

  Like, there's nothing like going to a little small town, being called faggots and inwards and things like that, like. And then in combination of both of them, like it's just, it's just wild to me that people are that scared of something they know nothing about.

• 21:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's like-

• 21:48Speaker 03

  They know nothing about it.

• 21:49Drew Afualo?

  Like, not even close.

• 21:50Speaker 03

  Not even close.

• 21:52Drew Afualo?

  And the shit they say, you're like, where did you even get that?

• 21:55Speaker 03

  Where'd you get that from? Like, who said that?

• 21:58Drew Afualo?

  What the fuck, like, I've, I've made so many videos, like, just dogging out men like that, especially when they talk about trans people, and they talk about gay people, and they talk about drag queens, right? The whole, like, drag queens reading to kids thing. I was like, this is nothing more than transphobia disguised as something else. Uh, they're trying to make you believe trans people and drag queens are a monolith, they're not. Um, but it's just fear mongering more than anything, right? And I was like, find, trying to find someone to blame for why you don't give a fuck about kids in this country. But, I've said before, I'm like, I actually know and love drag queens in real life, I know them for real. Um, they fucking hate your kids. I don't know how else to say that to you.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  Tell you how I don't want no kids.

• 22:36Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me either, and I don't want them either, and maybe that's why we get along. We're all cunts, and tall, and don't want children.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  And self-indulgent.

• 22:44Drew Afualo?

  And we love attention.

• 22:45Speaker 03

  We love attention, and if you're gonna be taking attention away from me, little brat, I can't, like-

• 22:50Drew Afualo?

  I was like, I, I guarantee you, I was like, they don't want your kids near them, they don't want them at the shows, like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, also, who's taking kids to a drag brunch? What a bummer. I'm trying to get fucked up at the brunch.

• 23:05Speaker 03

  And we gotta censor our music because your little bratty ass kid is here? We trying to do Trino. We trying to be the baddest bitch.

• 23:13Drew Afualo?

  I'm trying to do a lyrical dance to Nurse Wacker, and this is getting in the way.

• 23:21Drew Afualo?

  I was like, and this is making it harder for me.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Making it harder.

• 23:24Drew Afualo?

  For me to show my art.

• 23:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it really is mind-boggling, and to, like, when I sat down with that, that, um, I don't know if she worked in, like, with the senate or whatever, the black lady. And, listening to her just bow out off things that she's heard. And then I asked her, have you ever been to a drag show?

• 23:46Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:47Speaker 03

  No. Have, have, have you ever met a drag queen?

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• 24:56Speaker 03

  In real life, no. So then I had to gather her. Then I had to gather her.

• 25:02Drew Afualo?

  Yes, the fuck you did.

• 25:03Speaker 03

  Because there's people like you that makes it hard for us. Like, you are spewing all this thing that you don't know nothing about.

• 25:10Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 25:10Speaker 03

  And then we're just trying to be happy.

• 25:12Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  Like, I know I'm a good person.

• 25:14Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 25:15Speaker 03

  But what are you doing in your life?

• 25:16Drew Afualo?

  No shit. And also, the places there are drag shows, those are safe spaces.

• 25:20Speaker 03

  Safe spaces.

• 25:21Drew Afualo?

  No one's telling you to go over there. If anything, straight people are gentrifying those safe spaces, and they have been for a while.

• 25:28Speaker 03

  For a long time, baby. That's why there is a brunch, brunch every day of the week.

• 25:32Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 25:34Speaker 03

  Brunch every day of the week, man.

• 25:35Drew Afualo?

  Right. And then they're just randomly becoming drag brunches. I was like, you guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I was like, you haven't been to a hamburger at Mary's? I don't want to hear it. That's the starter one.

• 25:44Speaker 03

  That's the starter.

• 25:45Drew Afualo?

  That's the starter one.

• 25:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're not at a Mary's, honey.

• 25:48Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 25:50Speaker 03

  Girl, you don't know.

• 25:51Drew Afualo?

  Well, and it's just like, it's that kind of ignorance that infuriates me, too, because... I I don't need to have the lived experience or even know anyone in real life to honor to empathize with a community that I'm not a part of. I just so happen to know a lot of them and love a lot of them in real life as well. So it makes me extra fucking mad. Cause I was I was telling my guests earlier that I recently made a video defending trans women because uh this woman made a women's only gym, said she would support trans women coming. Then when she got her bag, said, actually, never mind, um, this is only for cis women. Right, to which I'm like, how how are you gonna check that, right, first of all? But they don't ever think that far. So I basically made a video.

• 26:32Drew Afualo?

  Uh, just saying, I wasn't even talking about talking to her directly. I literally just said, if you're a transphobe, your ass stinks. And that's all I have to say to you. You have shit in your crack and I know it. I know it for a fact. And I was like, that's that you wanna talk about science. That's science.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  Wow. Not a shitty kitty.

• 26:51Drew Afualo?

  Maybe you should be focused on that biology, you stinky bitch. And so I called them fucking losers. And then I said, and I bet your friends talk about how bad you stink when you walk away. I bet they do that. And then at the end, I said, you guys can suck my dick. And then I said, actually suck it from the back, cuz I don't wanna look at you. And that's what made them really mad at me. Turfs. Got really mad at me. Yeah, TERFs. So they started attacking me, saying I don't actually care about women because I don't care about bio with quotes, women. And I was like, your gender and sex are two different things. I know that's really hard for you to like.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  They don't.

• 27:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 27:28Speaker 03

  That's way too advanced.

• 27:29Drew Afualo?

  Funny cuz it turned into this whole thing and they're like trying to justify it with religion and shit.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  Don't do that either.

• 27:36Drew Afualo?

  I was like, exactly. I was like, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. I was like, I don't wanna have this conversation with you cuz all of you don't wanna learn and all of you are bigoted. You just don't wanna admit it for whatever fucking reason. You know, like, Trump supporters, they sometimes get embarrassed that you called them that. What are you shy?

• 27:52Speaker 03

  Okay, you ready for this? My neighbor is a Trump supporter.

• 27:57Drew Afualo?

  Okay, too.

• 27:57Speaker 03

  And they fly their flag in their backyard.

• 28:02Drew Afualo?

  What are you nervous?

• 28:03Speaker 03

  Why, why, why, why aren't you proud?

• 28:05Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Why, why isn't that shit on your front yard?

• 28:07Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 28:08Speaker 03

  Why isn't it flying high?

• 28:09Drew Afualo?

  Commit, you fucking bitch.

• 28:10Speaker 03

  Look, look, you won, you should be glowed, you should be proud. Bitch.

• 28:15Drew Afualo?

  Are the price of eggs down?

• 28:16Speaker 03

  Baby.

• 28:19Speaker 03

  Oh, I hate that they moved in next to me. Oh, my God, it's hard, but it's a test.

• 28:24Drew Afualo?

  It is, it is.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  Because they're gonna have to eat it because we are loud. We smoking my Lanai all the time. I have all my fatty ass friends over there. Honey, yes, ma'am, talking loud.

• 28:36Drew Afualo?

  I love that you called it a Lanai.

• 28:38Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 28:38Drew Afualo?

  That's what I call it, too.

• 28:39Speaker 03

  I'm a Golden Girl, honey.

• 28:40Drew Afualo?

  Are you?

• 28:41Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, everybody knows me and my relationship with the Golden Girls. Baby.

• 28:48Drew Afualo?

  You know the Lanai is Hawaiian for porch, yeah. I didn't know you got it from Golden.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  I also identify as Polynesian, so like, you know, that part.

• 29:01Drew Afualo?

  Love that.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, yeah, that part.

• 29:05Drew Afualo?

  I love that for you. I think that's fucking awesome. I'll dub you right now.

• 29:10Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 29:10Drew Afualo?

  There you go. Give me the seal of approval.

• 29:12Speaker 03

  Thank you, please, finally, my people, honey.

• 29:16Drew Afualo?

  You know what's funny is I, I've talked about this with my family, my friends before, but like, Samoan culture and black culture, we have a lot of similarities in many different ways, but there's a lot of media that we consume and I don't know anyone else that consumes it. It's just my black friends and Samoan people. So like, for example, movies like Drumline, The Friday Series, Stop the Yard, right? In Living Color is another one, right? And anything or even like music, like Babyface or Luther Vandross.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  You're talking my language.

• 29:53Drew Afualo?

  Right, or things like The Electric Slide.

• 29:56Speaker 03

  Baby.

• 29:58Drew Afualo?

  Doing it at funerals and birthday parties.

• 30:01Speaker 03

  Because it's a celebration.

• 30:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, technically a celebration of life.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  Of life.

• 30:06Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  Period.

• 30:07Drew Afualo?

  That's why I was like, there are some things where I'm like, nobody gets that except my black friends and my Samoan friends.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  Do you have it?

• 30:14Drew Afualo?

  We, we consume a lot of the same media.

• 30:16Speaker 03

  It's really true.

• 30:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it hits us all the same.

• 30:18Speaker 03

  It's true.

• 30:20Drew Afualo?

  So I, that's why I said I dub you. There you go. I love that. Oh, so you have a Trump supporting neighbor. I have a couple too in my neighborhood too. And I've even, I've, I see them and every time I see them, I give it a thumbs down when I drive by. Big ol' thumbs down. Uh, even I told my fiance the other day, I was like, one day I'm gonna get a BB gun and I'm just gonna shoot holes through that bitch. But they're also flying them in the backyard. Backyard. And I can see it.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  I can see it.

• 30:45Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and it pisses me the fuck off.

• 30:47Speaker 03

  It really does. But I like, you know what, I'm like, this ain't gonna steal my joy because the fact that they are flying in their backyard already shows me they're, they're ashamed of themselves.

• 30:56Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. And I, that's why I'm, I commend you for being able to do a show like we're here. Because that can be very triggering too, to like, to re-enter spaces that are unsafe and like, almost re-experience things that you've absolutely already gone through and weathered. So I commend you for being able to do stuff like that.

• 31:16Speaker 03

  I'll tell you, I'll, I'll tell you, I didn't mean to cut you off, but I'll, I'll tell you what the major difference is.

• 31:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  I know who the fuck I am now.

• 31:25Drew Afualo?

  Period bitch.

• 31:26Speaker 03

  I know who I am.

• 31:27Drew Afualo?

  Period.

• 31:27Speaker 03

  Bitch, I wish you will ta- try to tell me about me. Bitch, you don't know me. What? But I can tell you about you.

• 31:35Drew Afualo?

  Exactly, cuz you've met hundreds of thousands of you.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  Honey, you are dime a dozen.

• 31:39Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. Fucking exactly.

• 31:42Speaker 03

  You're definitely not an egg.

• 31:47Drew Afualo?

  Not chunky nor funky.

• 31:53Drew Afualo?

  What would, what would you say was your most memorable part of working on that show? Cuz I know it can be very like moving.

• 31:58Speaker 03

  Actually, the church.

• 32:00Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 32:00Speaker 03

  That, that scene in the church.

• 32:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:02Speaker 03

  Took me out. Well, because I, there was a lot of anxiety, uh, anxiety coming up. Like, just getting ready to go inside.

• 32:14Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  And like, all those voices started coming in my head. Like I'm making a mockery, I'm blasphemous, this other going up in this church and drag, all the things that. You know, you you heard, you know, and um I really didn't wanna go in and I was having a moment, but I didn't tell anybody.

• 32:35Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:36Speaker 03

  I had to breathe through, put on my big girl pants and say, no, this is this is the moment that you need to go in here.

• 32:40Drew Afualo?

  Mm hmm.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  You need to do this.

• 32:41Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 32:42Speaker 03

  And so, once I got in there and then hear all those affirming words, which were completely opposite of everything I've ever heard in church.

• 32:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 32:51Speaker 03

  It took me out and I was so emotional, uh emotional and.

• 32:55Drew Afualo?

  Totally.

• 32:56Speaker 03

  Um but it was healing.

• 32:57Drew Afualo?

  I bet. Oh, I'm sure.

• 32:59Speaker 03

  It was so affirming and I like when he, when the the pastor um called our drag a ministry in which that's how I.

• 33:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's how you've always seen it. Yeah, you've always seen it that way.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  I was just like, that's all the affirmation I need. That's right there. That's it. I'm in, I'm in God's house and I'm already like, I'm ordained.

• 33:20Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 33:20Speaker 03

  I'm here.

• 33:21Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  So it's it's it it was it was, that was my.

• 33:24Drew Afualo?

  Absolutely. I can only imagine. It was probably like transformative.

• 33:28Speaker 03

  It really was.

• 33:29Drew Afualo?

  And also you're, you are a living, breathing testimony, right? Because of your, because of your background and now what you do now. Like, there is no other way to see it other than a testimony, like truly. It like a a ministry, really. I think that's a beautiful way of describing it, cause that's so true.

• 33:45Speaker 03

  It's it really, and I'm like, and I know that I'm healing people. And people are coming up to me daily, every, like literally every moment.

• 33:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 33:54Speaker 03

  Um and letting me know how I am touching and affecting lives. Do not change. Please keep doing what you're doing.

• 33:59Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  And I'm like, I promise you I'm gonna keep on going.

• 34:01Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 34:02Speaker 03

  But I, you know, like you have to take care of yourself and you have to recharge. And actually, this trip is for that. This is the trip that I I made to come here to get recharged and get um back in the feeling with my my sisters and that.

• 34:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 34:18Speaker 03

  The camaraderie and getting that creative juices spaces and be inspired and all that. And so this trip has done that for me, so I'm really happy. So now I can keep on going another.

• 34:28Drew Afualo?

  Another nonstop.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  Another nonstop for five years and I see you again, you know.

• 34:34Drew Afualo?

  And that's true. And I and I think too, it's also like when you take really good care of yourself. Um, like you take some time off so you could recharge and recenter. That like allows you to keep going, obviously, but it also allows you to like refill your cup just in general, like spiritually, emotionally. I know, especially because I know you've been in the game for a long time. You've been doing so well for so long. Um, like what's what helps refill your cup the most, you would say?

• 34:58Speaker 03

  Um, good energy, good people. You have to really make sure you have the right people in your court. And because like I I've learned and it's been painful to have to let go people go. It's like mourning a death almost because you're losing them and you just can't take them with them because it's not healthy for you.

• 35:20Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and where you're headed.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  And where I'm going. You can't go because you're not ready yet.

• 35:24Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 35:24Speaker 03

  You know, and so sorry, boo boo, I gotta go. Um, but having people who recharge you and understand you and make sure that you are taken care of. Um, it's important. And we have this phrase called drinking while pouring. So like, you know, it's it's important that you give or whatever, but you can't just deplete yourself. You have to like, as you're giving, you have to have somebody pouring into you. And so that's what we always do. We make sure we're pouring into each other.

• 35:55Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, especially what it is you do, because it is so. Obviously, physically, it's taxing, obviously, like working all the time and not sleeping that much, traveling, all of that. But like what it is you do, like the people that you touch, the lives that you touch. The testimonies you hear, because even like when Bob was on recently again, we joked about how like. He asked me if I get trauma dumped on and I was like, well, yeah, obviously. And I was like, but obviously you've been doing it for a long time too, and so. You're also like one of the first, like you're like a one of one kind of queen, right? So when they come to you, they're like, they, I'm sure they have so many testimonies and it can be heavy to like carry that. And also it feels like a a responsibility that you have.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  You want them to be heard and you want them to feel like you, someone understands them. And so, yeah, I I take it in, but it is a lot to take in. And you have to be able to release that because. You know, you can't, I can't care, I'm a big enough, I don't need.

• 36:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, good people, good weed. Green queens.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  One hundred percent. And that is the other part of it. That keeps me on a level because if I'm not on a level. It's not gonna be fun for nobody, girl. It's not.

• 37:11Drew Afualo?

  Me too. I sometimes think I'm like, well, see, if I don't have that, I'll grow ten times the size of a building like Godzilla and I'll wreak havoc on Japan.

• 37:20Speaker 03

  It's gonna be.

• 37:22Drew Afualo?

  I need it. You don't understand.

• 37:24Speaker 03

  That's why it's medical and I got my medical card.

• 37:29Drew Afualo?

  Mine's not, but.

• 37:30Speaker 03

  Mine is, let me tell you.

• 37:32Drew Afualo?

  It's starting to feel medical.

• 37:33Speaker 03

  It is. Cause it's necessary. Well, cause Florida's only medical, but like when I came here, I didn't realize that I wasn't on the medical card. I gave them my card yesterday, baby. It went green, which meant that I can buy a lot more than you.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  Happy days are here, here. Baby, listen.

• 37:53Drew Afualo?

  You went to the dispensary yesterday?

• 37:53Speaker 03

  Yes, ma'am.

• 37:54Drew Afualo?

  You know what's so funny? So did I. And I went and I, I was said, one of everything shopkeep. That's how I felt.

• 38:04Drew Afualo?

  I'll take the lot.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  I'll take the lot, honey. Well, today is a Wednesday and the one I'm going to, uh, back to today has a special. Half off.

• 38:16Drew Afualo?

  He said, the one I'm going back to today.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  To today, honey. Yes, indeed.

• 38:21Drew Afualo?

  Do you like, uh, OG flower or do you like the vapes or do you like edibles? Or are you just, uh?

• 38:30Drew Afualo?

  Me, literally me.

• 38:31Speaker 03

  Girl, what? Check my bag right now and see what I got.

• 38:34Drew Afualo?

  You choose one.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  What you got? I got edibles, I got vapes, I got flower. What you need? Dabs, what you want, girl?

• 38:41Drew Afualo?

  I went to the, uh, Elton John after party of the Oscars, right? Uh. This year. And when I went there, I took my own vape. I always have at least two on me at all times.

• 38:52Speaker 03

  The battery gonna die.

• 38:53Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly.

• 38:54Speaker 03

  And I'm gonna be mad.

• 38:55Drew Afualo?

  The first time I ever got like a, a vape one, uh, one of my friends, it was like three, four years ago. That was the first time I ever got it. Otherwise I was smoking pre-rolls or like OG bud, but I had never gotten the little vapes. So when I got my first one, I told one of my friends and then he goes, good luck doing anything sober for the rest of your fucking life. And then I was laughing about it. He wasn't kidding.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  Not alive.

• 39:18Drew Afualo?

  It makes it way too easy.

• 39:19Speaker 03

  Way, it's, it's the way it's supposed to be.

• 39:21Drew Afualo?

  It's too convenient. Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  That's, that's the purpose. It's doing its job.

• 39:26Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. That's, and God put it on earth.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  And here we are.

• 39:30Drew Afualo?

  Again, who am I to question his plan?

• 39:31Speaker 03

  I'm not questioning God.

• 39:32Drew Afualo?

  No.

• 39:33Speaker 03

  That's the almighty. He know better. He knew I was gonna be a pothead.

• 39:38Drew Afualo?

  He knows that about me. He knows my heart.

• 39:41Speaker 03

  He knows your heart. And what's left of your brain.

• 39:46Drew Afualo?

  When I was at the after party, I took my vape, I took it there and then I was like, I took my sister and we were, we were getting kinda drunk and then I had my little vape with me. And then I was walking around and I can't say who it was, but I was hanging out.

• 39:59Speaker 03

  Who you can, who was it?

• 40:02Speaker 03

  Who was it?

• 40:04Drew Afualo?

  It's not even that big of a first, but I don't know if anyone knows they do this, so I don't wanna like out them, but I was hitting my vape, this person's famous, and we're like kinda king and then, uh, one of my girlfriends was like, "Oh, I wish I had weed." I go, "Right now?" She goes, "Yeah." I go, "Here." And I offered mine and then the other person goes, "I have one too."

• 40:21Speaker 03

  Baby!

• 40:22Drew Afualo?

  We were all hitting each other's pens and I go, "This is crazy."

• 40:25Speaker 03

  This is good.

• 40:26Drew Afualo?

  I'm sharing germs with famous people.

• 40:27Speaker 03

  You are. I bet y'all were high as hell.

• 40:31Drew Afualo?

  Oh, I was so fucked up.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Cause you just mixing strange, you don't know what she got, I don't know what she got, but it tastes good. Ooh, this tastes like strawberries.

• 40:39Drew Afualo?

  I know, I was like, and I had a clip in bang, I was like, woo!

• 40:42Speaker 03

  Oh, he was feeling it.

• 40:43Drew Afualo?

  I was going crazy that night.

• 40:44Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 40:44Drew Afualo?

  You wanna hear something crazy though? The next day I was pretty hungover, which I, I don't really drink, cause I always smoke. So if I do drink, it's like a special occasion. But the next morning I felt like, I was like, ooh, I'm kinda hungover. I woke up at like, uh, seven AM because I had to, I needed water. I was like, I need water so bad. So I like went to the little fridge in my hotel room. And I didn't have any more of our water, so I just took one of theirs. I'm like, they're gonna charge me forty-five dollars for this, but it's fine. So I'm like chugging the water, I drink like half of it. And then I'm like,

• 41:17Drew Afualo?

  as I'm standing there trying to catch my breath, almost shit my pants. Can you believe that?

• 41:21Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 41:22Drew Afualo?

  Like literally almost pooped my pants, cause I was that hungover.

• 41:28Drew Afualo?

  Isn't that insane?

• 41:29Speaker 03

  Wait, what?

• 41:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I don't know what that has to do with anything.

• 41:32Speaker 03

  Wait, you drink water?

• 41:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 41:34Speaker 03

  And immediately had to shit?

• 41:35Drew Afualo?

  Yes, can you believe that? And I don't know if that's, I mean, you're older than me, tell me, does that happen as you get older?

• 41:41Speaker 03

  No, girl. I don't know what's wrong with you. I don't drink water and have to shit. What, girl?

• 41:50Drew Afualo?

  That's never happened to me in my life.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  It was the alcohol, were you drinking brown liquor?

• 41:54Drew Afualo?

  No, I was drinking champagne, more than anything, champagne and wine.

• 41:58Speaker 03

  Wine?

• 41:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I was on some white girl shit.

• 41:59Speaker 03

  It was the grapes.

• 42:00Drew Afualo?

  I was on my, I was on my white girl shit.

• 42:02Speaker 03

  The grapes are raff, girl.

• 42:05Drew Afualo?

  Clearly, what the fuck?

• 42:10Drew Afualo?

  I was so overwhelmed with, I was like, what the fuck? Like, I literally almost pooped my pants. And that reminds me of Katya, because...

• 42:17Speaker 03

  She was in the shitty pants, okay?

• 42:20Drew Afualo?

  I've seen her shit in her pants. Because when she was here the first time, she told me, "You never shit yourself?" And I go, like, actual poop in my pants, no. And then she was like, "Yeah, you have, you fucking liar." She literally did not believe me. And then, she was the first person I thought of when I almost shit myself.

• 42:37Speaker 03

  It was gonna happen, this was gonna be the moment.

• 42:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, she put that curse on me. It's like that meme that says, like, "Just got my lick back from 2016, don't ever rest around me." It felt like she put that shit on me.

• 42:49Speaker 03

  Daddy, daddy, she's so mad. So mad!

• 42:54Drew Afualo?

  See what happens when you hang out with drag queens, you almost poop your pants.

• 42:59Speaker 03

  You know why? Cause they're the shit. But I'm pumped.

• 43:05Drew Afualo?

  What's your, uh, what's your favorite strain? What do you like to smoke? indica, sativa?

• 43:10Speaker 03

  I'm an indica girl.

• 43:11Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 43:11Speaker 03

  For real, I can do an indica hybrid.

• 43:13Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  But the sativas, I really, I could smoke a whole bag and be like, "Did I smoke anything?"

• 43:19Drew Afualo?

  Me too!

• 43:20Speaker 03

  It's so weird, it does nothing for me. I'd just be like, "I'm, am I high?" Maybe I'm high because I'm questioning if I'm high.

• 43:29Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 43:30Speaker 03

  But no, if I was high, I would know I was high. You know what I mean? I'm going through all that. So that's what Sativa does to me.

• 43:37Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 43:38Speaker 03

  Makes me all in my head.

• 43:39Drew Afualo?

  To me, it makes me, it feels like it makes me focus. Which I know people will diagnose me with something and that's, they're gonna tell me I have a mental illness and that's probably what it is.

• 43:46Speaker 03

  We all do, but like.

• 43:47Drew Afualo?

  Right. They're gonna diagnose me with something, I'm sure.

• 43:50Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:50Drew Afualo?

  But the, the few times I've done Sativa, I, I feel like it just makes me more focused, so like, I can do tasks.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 43:56Drew Afualo?

  Which is not the point of it.

• 43:57Speaker 03

  I know, not for us, we're trying not to task.

• 44:00Drew Afualo?

  No, yeah, I want, I wanted to make, I wanted to make me silly, like silly as fuck.

• 44:04Speaker 03

  I wanna kee-kee.

• 44:05Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 44:06Speaker 03

  And eat.

• 44:07Drew Afualo?

  Do you smoke while working?

• 44:08Speaker 03

  Always.

• 44:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, same. Uh, one time.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  I'm like, if we're breathing, I'm high.

• 44:20Drew Afualo?

  Someone asked like, do you have any tips, like recently I did a Q and A and they were like, do you have any tips to like wean off? Like weed, because I feel like I'm becoming dependent on it. And I said. Yeah, I said, I feel like I can't get enough personally, so I, I don't think I'm the person to ask.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  I'm not.

• 44:38Drew Afualo?

  I literally was like, is there tips? You let me know.

• 44:42Speaker 03

  Cause I'm not your person for that. I, I'm trying to figure out why you would wanna do that. People be like, I need to stop the weed. I'm like, why? Why?

• 44:51Drew Afualo?

  Are you okay?

• 44:52Speaker 03

  Are you okay?

• 44:54Speaker 03

  She's like, no, I just don't get anything done. Oh. So, when me and my husband first got together.

• 45:00Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:00Speaker 03

  Okay, he was a little bowl smoker.

• 45:02Drew Afualo?

  Okay. Like in a, in a pipe?

• 45:05Speaker 03

  Like a little pipe. He had a little corn cup pipe. I mean, girl, the bowl was like that big and I was holding it like this.

• 45:11Drew Afualo?

  Half a nug, yeah.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  You know, like, but these soup coolers, honey, I'm gonna, I'm scared I'm gonna like my lips are fine.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  But he was a bowl smoker, so he didn't smoke blunt. I, I smoked blunts.

• 45:23Drew Afualo?

  Me too.

• 45:23Speaker 03

  And so, girl, we gotta hang out, okay?

• 45:26Drew Afualo?

  I would love to. I'll smoke you out crazy bitch.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  For real.

• 45:31Speaker 03

  And so. When he first started hanging with me and then started working with me as we got closer and things. Um, I'm always smoking and I'm smoking with him and he's like babe, babe, babe, look, I, like, do you want me to be high? Or do you want me to work? I said, yes. Because you need to learn how to focus while high because this is gonna be the standard.

• 45:54Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 45:55Speaker 03

  We gonna be high, but we need to get shit done.

• 45:59Drew Afualo?

  Right. He said, I don't know what you're up to, but this is the type of shit I'm on.

• 46:03Speaker 03

  That's it. And he's learned now. Now he's very well adapted and we can smoke blunt, be at the computer at the same time.

• 46:09Drew Afualo?

  I, I feel the same way. I honestly sometimes feel like I do, I do better.

• 46:12Speaker 03

  No, you have to. And like, I know that I get things done when I'm, it helps me focus.

• 46:18Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too. Honestly, I feel like it quiets the voices in my head a little bit so I can focus. I, and because I always carry my pen on my person, when I was hosting something for.

• 46:27Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 46:28Drew Afualo?

  So, I, it was big, big deal, right? Uh, so I'm like, okay, and I was working all day. This was my last thing of the day. So I'm just ripping that shit like crazy in my dressing room. I'm like, I'm going nuts on that thing. And so then my mom's like, oh, let's go to the restroom and then we'll go upstairs because there was like a little dinner thing we had to do. And then I had to host for like a few hours. And so I was gonna be at the dinner though for like maybe thirty minutes. So I, I'm like, okay, and I'm hitting it as I'm walking out, but then there's people walking that are like dancers. And I just didn't wanna like be disrespectful, so I swallowed the smoke, but I was already trying to blow it. So you know when you like change directions like that? Then I started like, I was like. Right? Like that, that like coughing where you're like trying not to cough. So I go in the restroom. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna hold this. I get in the stall.

• 47:14Drew Afualo?

  I go in the restroom, I'm lighting it up in there. I'm like.

• 47:20Drew Afualo?

  I sound like a thousand years old. I sound like I have the black plague.

• 47:25Drew Afualo?

  Like I'm giving it my all. I started sweating because I was trying to get it out.

• 47:28Speaker 03

  Baby, that's gonna make you higher than.

• 47:30Drew Afualo?

  I know, I know. And then I walk out of the room and my mom is standing out there. She was waiting for me. Cause they were like single stall restroom, so they had like doors. And so she came out and she was like, are you okay?

• 47:44Drew Afualo?

  I'm like, my eyes are all bloodshot. Yeah, why wasn't I?

• 47:48Speaker 03

  Never understand.

• 47:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and then my mom goes, what were you doing in there? And I was like, what do you mean? And she goes, the coughing. And I go, you can hear me?

• 47:57Speaker 03

  Oh, girl.

• 47:58Drew Afualo?

  Cause I thought it was like, soundproof.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 48:02Drew Afualo?

  And then probably because I was high. So I was like, no one can hear me in this little cardboard box.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 48:06Drew Afualo?

  And then she goes, everyone could hear you. And I was like, nice, love that. Then as I'm going up the stairs to go to the dinner, I realize I'm a little too high. And by that, I don't mean I got this, I get the scaries. I never get the scaries. I get too silly. Which means I'm gonna make a tit joke at this.

• 48:23Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 48:24Drew Afualo?

  And I can't do that because John Legend is there with his kids. So I can't do that. And so I'm like, I am so silly right now. I need to like, get this out of my system. And so my cousin, he does my hair and makeup. He was sitting with me and I go, I start cracking jokes like, left and right to him. I'm like trying to make him laugh to get it out of my system.

• 48:43Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 48:43Drew Afualo?

  And I told him, I was like, I feel like I have to go outside and have the zoomies. Like on all fours. I just need to run around.

• 48:47Speaker 03

  Just run around.

• 48:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 48:48Speaker 03

  Get it all out. Let it all out.

• 48:50Drew Afualo?

  You know, sometimes like when you need to tire out little kids, you're like, let me see how fast you can run down that hallway and come back. That's how I, I felt like I had to go downstairs and run a couple laps. To just tire myself.

• 48:59Speaker 03

  In the bathroom stall. Girl, and it echoed through the whole.

• 49:04Drew Afualo?

  Dude, God himself could hear me coughing.

• 49:06Speaker 03

  Girl.

• 49:07Drew Afualo?

  From the top of Mount Everest, you could hear me.

• 49:08Speaker 03

  I can tell you a story.

• 49:09Drew Afualo?

  Please do.

• 49:10Speaker 03

  Okay. The time that we smoked out the entire church choir at a party, a house party. So the church, the choir was having a going away party for one of the members.

• 49:24Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 49:25Speaker 03

  And so everyone was gathered and in the house and then we show up, of course. Bad news bears.

• 49:34Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 49:35Speaker 03

  And we asked the host where we should go to smoke, cause we didn't want to be disrespectful.

• 49:41Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  He goes, oh, go to the, the back guest room and it'll be fine. So like, eight of us.

• 49:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  Go to the back, uh, back guest room.

• 49:52Speaker 03

  And we lighting up, we got a circle going, we got like three blunts going and we just rotating it, chieftain.

• 49:58Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 49:58Speaker 03

  Like hot boxing.

• 49:59Drew Afualo?

  Right.

• 50:00Speaker 03

  Little did we know that we were in the room with the vent for the A C. This is your air. It's pushing all through the house.

• 50:11Drew Afualo?

  You're hot boxing the house?

• 50:12Speaker 03

  The whole house. So we come out and nobody's inside the house, girl. Everybody's outside. We're like, where everybody go?

• 50:20Drew Afualo?

  The rapture it happens.

• 50:22Speaker 03

  Realized that we had a smoke table.

• 50:26Drew Afualo?

  Three blunts inside is crazy.

• 50:28Speaker 03

  Inside a closed room.

• 50:30Drew Afualo?

  That's crazy. That reminds me of college, though. I did, that was, it happened in college all the time. My girlfriends and I, we used to do this thing for birthdays where we would all pitch in to get one gift for like one of our friends. And so, cause we were all fucking broke. And one of our friends was big old pothead. Like, we all were, but to some extent, I didn't really smoke at all in college. It wasn't until after, but like, my friends, big old potheads. And our friend was, two things we knew about her. She loved weed and she loves Beyonce. Those are the only two things that you ever really need to know about her.

• 51:00Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 51:00Drew Afualo?

  And so like, we got her um, a, a bong. Like, we got her a really nice bong with like purple in it, cause that was her favorite color. And then we had a buddy that could stain glass. So he like stained glass, like designed Beyonce's like face on her.

• 51:15Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 51:16Drew Afualo?

  On her bong. And we called it Be Bong Say.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  Oh, that.

• 51:21Drew Afualo?

  And it was like, when I tell you she cried when we gave it to her.

• 51:24Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 51:25Drew Afualo?

  It's like, to be loved is to be seen.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  Like, that is it. Y'all really, oh my god, guys.

• 51:35Drew Afualo?

  Most insane gift in the world. It was fucking insane.

• 51:39Speaker 03

  Oh my god, I love, but it's thoughtful.

• 51:41Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, it's very thoughtful. But it's, I feel like it was just a red herring for my future, being a big, big old pothead.

• 51:46Speaker 03

  There you are.

• 51:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I do love Beyonce and I do love weed, so there you go. It is what it is. All's well that ends well.

• 51:52Speaker 03

  That's the part.

• 51:54Drew Afualo?

  I do have uh, some fun facts about you, if we'd like to partake in them.

• 51:58Speaker 03

  Know some fun facts about me.

• 52:00Drew Afualo?

  Okay, so it says here that you were born in Torrance.

• 52:05Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 52:05Drew Afualo?

  Yes. My producer wrote, me too.

• 52:07Speaker 03

  Were you really?

• 52:10Speaker 03

  That's it. Oh my god. God.

• 52:14Drew Afualo?

  Okay, period. And you're an Aquarius.

• 52:17Speaker 03

  I'm Aquarius.

• 52:18Drew Afualo?

  Love that. Uh, it says you're an ordained minister.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  I am indeed.

• 52:21Drew Afualo?

  Have you married people?

• 52:23Speaker 03

  Very much so.

• 52:23Drew Afualo?

  Oh my gosh, how is that?

• 52:25Speaker 03

  So, that's what hope, that's, that's what changed really literally my whole life.

• 52:29Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:29Speaker 03

  Because, you know, in the, on the show, on that show, I would say like, I don't want to be called gay marriage. You know what I mean? I didn't have a name for it at the time, and neither do they.

• 52:38Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:38Speaker 03

  But I just knew I didn't want to be called that because it made it feel like it was something different and, and wrong.

• 52:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  Um, with the connotation that I didn't like.

• 52:46Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 52:47Speaker 03

  And so, um, a friend of mine asked me when like, we were still trying to fight for marriage equality nationwide. But like, New York had did it, San, you know, California did it like, so, um, they were in New York and he was like, I would love for you to officiate my wedding. I was like, oh yeah, okay, sure.

• 53:08Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:09Speaker 03

  Just let me know, they, you know, and this is after the show, after Drag Race and all that kind of stuff. So I was busy and, and I just kind of passed it off as.

• 53:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, sure.

• 53:18Drew Afualo?

  Feeling fun, yeah.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  Not everything in that he was really serious about it. And then he was like, so I was just calling to check in on these dates and see if you were still gonna be able to, I was like, oh, you're for real, for real.

• 53:30Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 53:31Speaker 03

  Okay, so let me go ahead and go, let me go get this, this certificate, you know? So, um, I got ordained to perform his wedding and it was really beautiful because I took it seriously because I like it. To me, it is a union. It is really that promise, that commitment. And I was able to see true love for what it was. Both sides of the family were there in support. Um, I met the mom, dad on both sides, stepmother, stepfathers. Like, their parents had divorced and remarried or whatever, but like, everybody was there. And so it was really, really, really sweet.

• 54:09Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 54:09Speaker 03

  And so that gave me a, a different kind of perspective in I. And then I started doing the campaign, campaign, uh, toast to marriage where I was trying to get people to get voters out to get, so we can pass it nationwide, and it did.

• 54:22Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  But then I started getting so many weddings.

• 54:26Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 54:27Speaker 03

  So that became a gig, a new gig. I was like, okay, I got a wedding package deal for you. You know, I'll come officiate and perform at your reception.

• 54:35Drew Afualo?

  That's fucking awesome.

• 54:36Speaker 03

  That's like, you get a twofer.

• 54:38Drew Afualo?

  A twofer, yeah.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  So people were hopping on that. So I started doing lots of weddings. That became my other gig. And, um, pretty soon through that, I started realizing that this is something that I want. I never thought I saw this happening in my lifetime.

• 54:56Drew Afualo?

  Wow.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  But now I want it.

• 54:59Drew Afualo?

  That's so incredible.

• 55:00Speaker 03

  And that's why.

• 55:01Drew Afualo?

  It just like kind of shifted your views on marriage.

• 55:03Speaker 03

  It shifted completely.

• 55:04Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, because you got to see, and honestly, probably because you got to see it where it's not existing in like a cisgendered, heterosexual, like, white supremacist ideology. It's not existing in that space. So you can see it for what it is, which is a union, a partnership, like it's.

• 55:22Speaker 04

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• 55:47Speaker 05

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• 56:25Drew Afualo?

  Two people coming together and committing to each other.

• 56:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:27Drew Afualo?

  Without all the trappings of white supremacy and like capitalism tied to it. It's like a beautiful.

• 56:33Speaker 03

  It's a beautiful thing.

• 56:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:34Speaker 03

  It's like absolute, pure, beautiful thing.

• 56:37Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:38Speaker 03

  And I like.

• 56:39Drew Afualo?

  Wow, that's so beautiful.

• 56:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, so then I wound up proposing to my, my husband.

• 56:43Drew Afualo?

  That's so sweet.

• 56:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, so.

• 56:45Drew Afualo?

  Did you marry each other? Did you marry you guys?

• 56:47Speaker 03

  We, we married, yeah, the dude.

• 56:50Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 56:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, cause, yeah, cause, let's just say, no time for that. He knew he wasn't marrying her, but. We had a beautiful wedding and it was star-studded because the girls were at my wedding and not DragCon.

• 57:03Speaker 03

  Just saying.

• 57:05Speaker 03

  Just saying. New York DragCon was, yeah, New York DragCon was a little slim.

• 57:09Drew Afualo?

  It was empty that day.

• 57:11Speaker 03

  They had some girls, but they didn't have the girls. The girls were at my wedding.

• 57:16Drew Afualo?

  And I bet they were fired up about that because I know DragCon is exhausting.

• 57:21Speaker 03

  And so we, we definitely had like.

• 57:24Drew Afualo?

  A time.

• 57:24Speaker 03

  A time.

• 57:25Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, how exciting. I'm getting married next year. Do you have any tips for me?

• 57:29Speaker 03

  I do.

• 57:29Drew Afualo?

  I would love, I would love a good tip.

• 57:32Speaker 03

  Just have a party, girl. But gather this, though, I was filming Drag Race.

• 57:37Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 57:38Speaker 03

  During the time that.

• 57:38Drew Afualo?

  That you were planning the wedding?

• 57:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, I was in Drag Race hell, uh, June, July, August, we're getting married in September.

• 57:46Drew Afualo?

  Damn.

• 57:47Speaker 03

  And he couldn't talk to me for those months.

• 57:50Speaker 03

  No phone.

• 57:51Drew Afualo?

  You said, I'll see you on the day of the wedding.

• 57:52Speaker 03

  See you there.

• 57:54Drew Afualo?

  Maybe.

• 57:55Speaker 03

  Like, but like, he did a great job.

• 57:57Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 57:58Speaker 03

  And his mother actually was very supportive and.

• 58:01Drew Afualo?

  Oh, that's so beautiful. I love that.

• 58:02Speaker 03

  It turned out to be wonderful and beautiful because we gave everybody an experience.

• 58:06Drew Afualo?

  I love that.

• 58:07Speaker 03

  Good singing in a live band, like, we did the. Because we're entertainers.

• 58:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  So we wanted our guests to have an experience.

• 58:14Drew Afualo?

  You like to host?

• 58:15Speaker 03

  Baby.

• 58:15Drew Afualo?

  I love to host.

• 58:16Speaker 03

  Good host.

• 58:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, me too.

• 58:18Speaker 03

  We throw it down. And I can cook. So you know there's gonna be.

• 58:22Drew Afualo?

  Okay, period.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 58:23Drew Afualo?

  I can't cook, but.

• 58:24Speaker 03

  You can't cook.

• 58:25Drew Afualo?

  I mean, I can. I just don't. I don't really like want to. But my fiance loves to cook.

• 58:30Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 58:30Drew Afualo?

  So that's his thing.

• 58:31Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 58:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, he cooks. I sit there and I talk.

• 58:35Speaker 03

  That's fabulous.

• 58:35Drew Afualo?

  I entertain.

• 58:36Speaker 03

  Okay. That's just, you gotta know your purpose.

• 58:39Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 58:39Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 58:40Drew Afualo?

  We all know our strengths. Yes, I do.

• 58:42Speaker 03

  See.

• 58:42Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, that's, that's my contribution.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  That's, that's, that's fair.

• 58:45Drew Afualo?

  We trade off.

• 58:46Speaker 03

  That's.

• 58:47Drew Afualo?

  What's your favorite thing to cook?

• 58:48Speaker 03

  Girl, everything.

• 58:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, do you have, do you have like a specialty, though? You're like, when I know this one hits for.

• 58:52Speaker 03

  Well, because everybody loves my like baked spaghetti. I have a baked spaghetti recipe that will just like baby.

• 59:00Drew Afualo?

  I love spaghetti.

• 59:01Speaker 03

  The girl.

• 59:02Drew Afualo?

  That's my favorite.

• 59:02Speaker 03

  You ain't had it like this.

• 59:04Drew Afualo?

  I bet I haven't. I believe you.

• 59:06Speaker 03

  You, you like meat, cuz my, my sauce is meaty.

• 59:09Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 59:09Speaker 03

  Well, I got meat, meat.

• 59:11Drew Afualo?

  I, I feel like there's not enough meat in certain things a lot.

• 59:13Speaker 03

  Well, girl, we got, we got meat.

• 59:16Drew Afualo?

  Okay, we, well, we have a lot of plans then. We gotta smoke out and then we gotta.

• 59:20Speaker 03

  I gotta take you to the good beaches.

• 59:22Drew Afualo?

  Yes, and then we gotta have baked spaghetti at your house. Yeah.

• 59:25Speaker 03

  Girl, calm down.

• 59:26Drew Afualo?

  We have.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  We got, we got shit to do.

• 59:29Drew Afualo?

  We have shit to accomplish. We have shit to do. Okay, let me see some of these other fun facts. Okay. Oh, it says on here, Latrice proposed to her now husband onstage during a performance at Seattle Pride in twenty sixteen. How was that?

• 59:42Speaker 03

  It was a crazy time.

• 59:43Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 59:44Speaker 03

  Pulse had just happened.

• 59:45Drew Afualo?

  Oh, okay.

• 59:46Speaker 03

  And I literally had made plans to propose to him, um, that the week before I, that it happened. And, um, I was debating whether or not I should do it or not. And my spirit was like, absolutely, the world needs something.

• 1:00:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:04Speaker 03

  Positive to happen right now. And so, um, yeah, I, I did it. We were in Seattle. That's where we fell in love. You know, like we had, um, our first kinda like travel to meet me at a gig date.

• 1:00:17Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  It was in Seattle.

• 1:00:18Drew Afualo?

  Cute.

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  And he was so sweet. He had got there before me because I was coming from, I think I was in Dublin, Ireland.

• 1:00:25Drew Afualo?

  Okay.

• 1:00:26Speaker 03

  So I was coming from Ireland and he was coming from, uh, Tennessee. He got there a day before me, so I put him on that reservation so he can check in. So when I arrived.

• 1:00:38Speaker 03

  He had like saw YouTube video once when I had my birthday and I was like, I just want some balloons and some cake and some drinks. That's all I want for my birthday.

• 1:00:49Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:50Speaker 03

  And he had like some balloons and some cupcakes, some cupcake Royale and a bottle of champagne waiting for me.

• 1:00:56Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:57Speaker 03

  And it was the sweetest gesture. No one had ever done anything like romantic for me.

• 1:01:02Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:02Speaker 03

  And he had just, that's when he just reeled me in. That's why I was like, oh, my baby. So we went from complicated to we were dating. It was complicated at first, you know.

• 1:01:15Drew Afualo?

  Oh, my gosh, that's so beautiful. Okay, it says, yeah, uh, that you performed a gender flipped version of Sister Act called Mister Act off Broadway in twenty sixteen.

• 1:01:25Speaker 03

  That, that happened too.

• 1:01:26Drew Afualo?

  Sister Act's another movie set that

• 1:01:29Speaker 03

  See.

• 1:01:29Drew Afualo?

  That someone loves. Sister Act two's my favorite one.

• 1:01:32Speaker 03

  Of course.

• 1:01:32Drew Afualo?

  Yes, of course, with Lauryn Hill, obviously.

• 1:01:36Speaker 03

  July for July for?

• 1:01:37Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:01:38Speaker 03

  But, um, yeah, uh, Peaches Christ Productions. She, she, uh, wrote, uh, the, the, the, the script and it was featured me and Willem. Willem played the little mousy nun, which is, yeah, which is so not her. So she was tapping into the acting, but it was so fabulous. Um, we toured it here in Northern California and then I took it and produced it in Fort Lauderdale. It was really, really amazing. So we're talking about bringing it back.

• 1:02:11Drew Afualo?

  You have to. You have to.

• 1:02:14Speaker 03

  Twenty twenty six, I wanna bring it back.

• 1:02:15Drew Afualo?

  I just got chills.

• 1:02:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, bring it back. It was so good.

• 1:02:19Drew Afualo?

  Cause I know you got pipes on you, girl.

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  Oh, baby. I just sing, I do.

• 1:02:22Drew Afualo?

  Well, I, I know that, but yeah, but. I'm jealous. I wish I could fucking sing. I'll come watch it though. When you revive it, I'll come watch it.

• 1:02:29Speaker 03

  Please do.

• 1:02:31Drew Afualo?

  It says that you chose the drag name Latrice Royale because you knew a girl in school named Latrice, and she thought Royale, quote, "sounded delicious."

• 1:02:40Speaker 03

  Okay, so that's almost it. So, I, my, my little childhood bestie was named Latrice, beautiful black girl. You know them girls with the good hair? And then their mama put, she would put her hair in all the little pretty barrettes and the little and her hair would just say

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  So I, like, that was, that's who I hung out with all the time at a recess.

• 1:03:04Speaker 03

  And then, when I was choosing my name, my good friend Matt was with me when I was signing up for that show, That Dreadful Night, at the Copa.

• 1:03:19Drew Afualo?

  Before your lyrical dance hit the scene.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Dance hit the floor, honey.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  They asked me, "Well, what's your, what's your name?" And I said, "Latrice." They said, "Latrice what?"

• 1:03:31Speaker 03

  And I'm like, "Ooh." "Ooh, I just know Latrice."

• 1:03:35Drew Afualo?

  I didn't really get that far.

• 1:03:36Speaker 03

  I didn't get that far, right. I'm just here because they made me come. And then my friend Matt actually gave me the Royale. He goes, "Well, you're chocolatey and like, fudge Royale." So, Royale, and Latrice Royale has been.

• 1:03:49Drew Afualo?

  That was the name.

• 1:03:50Speaker 03

  The name.

• 1:03:51Drew Afualo?

  Then she was born.

• 1:03:52Speaker 03

  And then she was born, and now she's established, and now she's incorporated.

• 1:03:58Drew Afualo?

  And fucking period.

• 1:04:01Drew Afualo?

  And then this last one says you were on an episode of Celebrity Family Feud with Steve Harvey.

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  My god.

• 1:04:06Drew Afualo?

  How was that?

• 1:04:07Speaker 03

  Amazing. Baby, look, to make Steve Harvey uncomfortable and cringe is the lifetime goal. Baby, we let him have it. It was so much fun just making him uncomfortable. Ruth started it, though.

• 1:04:26Speaker 03

  She started it. Michelle was cool, but then Carson. Baby, Carson's a nut. He's a nut. And then he got to me, and then it was on the popping.

• 1:04:37Speaker 03

  Maybe I grew up with brothers like you, so I know how to handle your ass.

• 1:04:41Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I just, but, but I really felt like really honored because Rue chose me to be on her court team.

• 1:04:48Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  Like, that's a big deal to me, right?

• 1:04:50Drew Afualo?

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  She brought her crew and I was a part of it.

• 1:04:53Drew Afualo?

  That is so fucking cool.

• 1:04:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:55Drew Afualo?

  And it was a fun experience.

• 1:04:56Speaker 03

  It was a whole, it was a fu- because Family Feud is my favorite show, my favorite game show.

• 1:05:00Drew Afualo?

  Really?

• 1:05:01Speaker 03

  And like, I never thought, because I had no family to go. I'm sorry, it's gonna be, be so dark, but like, I was like, oh, never go.

• 1:05:12Drew Afualo?

  Well, the one thing you need.

• 1:05:15Speaker 03

  You need family to go on Family Feud.

• 1:05:17Drew Afualo?

  It's kind of the whole part.

• 1:05:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, the whole part, right? It's in the name. But, we were feuding.

• 1:05:23Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:23Speaker 03

  We were feuding. We had that part down. I was feuding with my family.

• 1:05:26Drew Afualo?

  I have half of it.

• 1:05:27Speaker 03

  I had it down. I just didn't have it in the right way. So, yeah, so I never thought I would be able to get on the show, but like, when you, when you have your chosen family and you get to go, and you become a celebrity, you're on Celebrity Feud.

• 1:05:41Drew Afualo?

  That's so fucking, and again, yeah, another example of you being loosely related to me, because my family loves Family Feud.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  See?

• 1:05:48Drew Afualo?

  We went through a real Family Feud app phase, because they had like, they have like a game on, you can download. We went through a real phase with that. Like, we were playing it constantly, like, trying to beat each other and stuff. And my family has actually gone on Family Feud, um, way back in the day.

• 1:06:02Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 1:06:03Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, and I was too young to go on at the time, so like, my parents went, and some of my aunts and uncles went together, like, as a team. Um, they got kicked out real, real fast, but like, they were super entertaining, because like, my family's just like me, like, loud and they make people uncomfortable and they make jokes.

• 1:06:21Speaker 03

  They should, they should.

• 1:06:22Drew Afualo?

  And like, I only remember my mom, like, recorded it for us, like, on VHS so we could watch it, because, and I remember watching it on the TV on VHS.

• 1:06:29Speaker 03

  That is wild.

• 1:06:30Drew Afualo?

  I was crazy watching my parents on TV.

• 1:06:32Speaker 03

  That's a long time ago.

• 1:06:33Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, losing at that game, and my mom being too competitive, like, it's just like.

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  Now you can be competitive and lose.

• 1:06:39Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, exactly. My mom was like, well, it's like a group project, and they weren't listening to me. All right, queen. Okay, girl.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  I love it.

• 1:06:49Drew Afualo?

  Well, to kind of like tie a little, pretty little bow on the end of this episode. I would love to know if you have any advice for anyone looking to, not just go into drag, but just into entertainment as a whole and maybe might be afraid, given the world we're living in now, like maybe living in fear of performing, making your art, like, uh, just kind of putting yourself out there. Do you have any advice for anyone?

• 1:07:12Speaker 03

  I mean, my, my biggest thing like that drives what I do is passion. And if you don't have a passion for it, don't do it.

• 1:07:21Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:21Speaker 03

  If you don't have a thick skin, don't do it.

• 1:07:24Drew Afualo?

  Right, exactly.

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  Because like, these are the things that like, you have to be able to take criticism, rejection. You have to be able to self-reflect. You have to be able to do, um, a lot of things that, um, normal jobs don't require you to do.

• 1:07:41Drew Afualo?

  Exactly. You don't learn how to deal with.

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  You don't, and there's no school that will teach you the business the way experience teaches you the business.

• 1:07:48Drew Afualo?

  Exactly.

• 1:07:49Speaker 03

  Because people are a trip. But if you are strong-willed, if you are a person that has a passion for whatever it is, passion for fashion or drag or whatever, do it.

• 1:08:01Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:01Speaker 03

  Go wholeheartedly. There is room for everybody at the table.

• 1:08:04Drew Afualo?

  I agree.

• 1:08:04Speaker 03

  Whether people seem to think so or not.

• 1:08:07Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:08Speaker 03

  Is like you create your own lane, like I do.

• 1:08:11Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 1:08:11Speaker 03

  It's a double wide lane, but bitch is mine.

• 1:08:14Drew Afualo?

  And you had no choice.

• 1:08:15Speaker 03

  You had no choice because it's not a necessity. And like, no one is sitting around here waiting to produce and say, hey, Drew, I have this great show for you.

• 1:08:25Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:25Speaker 03

  Um, I think you'll be wonderful for. Let me give this to, that's not happening. That's why you're here and you got your own shit. Like, you gotta make your own.

• 1:08:34Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, your own lane. Yeah. Well, and I, I think that's fantastic advice. And I also want to give you your flowers because I think you are a legend, obviously. You're a legend in the community, um, in general, but especially to me. And I also think. Uh, people like you existing in entertainment and not just, not just in the world of drag. Obviously, that's where you blew up, but like you've transcended that for a while now and you've been building an empire. And you're, that's why you're a longstanding legend in the game. And I just want to give you your flowers for that because I think people like you are so important and so imperative to like, keep not just like, obviously, you're always fighting for others, marginalized groups, ones you're a part of and ones you're not. But more importantly, like seeing you succeed and seeing you live life, be married, be happy, be in love, like,

• 1:09:18Drew Afualo?

  those are all things that I think are so powerful and I think you continuing to do that loudly and proudly and boldly and publicly is like, it makes a huge difference. So I just want to give you your flowers for that. I admire you. I've admired you for a long time.

• 1:09:31Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:09:32Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, of course. I just think you're amazing and I'll stop jerking you off now.

• 1:09:35Speaker 03

  Please don't. Don't just edge me like that again. No happy ending, girl.

• 1:09:41Drew Afualo?

  We're both taking winners.

• 1:09:45Drew Afualo?

  We can do a wife spot. That's true. Yeah. You can take a look at him. Go ahead. Let me know if it, if it suits your fancy.

• 1:09:51Speaker 03

  Oh, this is him?

• 1:09:52Drew Afualo?

  Yeah.

• 1:09:53Speaker 03

  Baby.

• 1:09:55Drew Afualo?

  Right. I know.

• 1:09:56Speaker 03

  You did that.

• 1:09:57Drew Afualo?

  Right. He's handsome. It's annoying as fuck.

• 1:10:00Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 1:10:00Drew Afualo?

  He has really long hair. Yeah.

• 1:10:03Speaker 03

  For real? So you must got that thing delayed time.

• 1:10:10Speaker 03

  Oh, Drew.

• 1:10:12Drew Afualo?

  Wait, can I tell you a joke?

• 1:10:13Speaker 03

  Yep, lady.

• 1:10:15Drew Afualo?

  One of my girlfriends, one time we were so fucked up and we were at like an award show, like at the end of it and she was like, I need to ask you something. And I go, yeah. And I've known her for years and she has never asked me anything like that. She goes, it's really good, isn't it? And then I, at, at the time I wasn't engaged, so I was like, I mean, seven years, no ring. What do you think?

• 1:10:36Drew Afualo?

  I'm kidding.

• 1:10:37Speaker 03

  And then?

• 1:10:38Drew Afualo?

  That's a joke.

• 1:10:38Speaker 03

  But then, here we are.

• 1:10:39Drew Afualo?

  But yet.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  Girl, look at that. Like a rock.

• 1:10:44Drew Afualo?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:10:45Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:10:47Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, picked all by himself. Can you believe it? I know that's fucking right.

• 1:10:51Speaker 03

  That's, that's correct. Check mark, baby. Yes. You need to put drag queen at your reception?

• 1:11:00Drew Afualo?

  You are absolutely invited.

• 1:11:01Speaker 03

  Baby.

• 1:11:02Drew Afualo?

  You are coming, obviously. I was gonna invite you, whether he, you thought he was ugly or not, I was gonna invite you.

• 1:11:09Speaker 03

  I already know this is gonna be the event.

• 1:11:12Drew Afualo?

  It's gonna be fun.

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  It's gonna be the event.

• 1:11:13Drew Afualo?

  It's gonna be fun. I don't think it'll outshine yours, but it'll be fun.

• 1:11:16Speaker 03

  Girl.

• 1:11:17Drew Afualo?

  I'm gonna try to compete, though.

• 1:11:18Speaker 03

  Please do.

• 1:11:19Drew Afualo?

  Yeah, I will.

• 1:11:19Speaker 03

  You better. Cause.

• 1:11:21Drew Afualo?

  Go big or go home.

• 1:11:22Speaker 03

  I set a standard.

• 1:11:24Drew Afualo?

  I fucking believe you. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show.

• 1:11:28Speaker 03

  My pleasure. I'm glad we were able to make this happen.

• 1:11:30Drew Afualo?

  I know, finally.

• 1:11:32Speaker 03

  Finally.

• 1:11:32Drew Afualo?

  Well, that's why, like I said, once you're done being successful and busy, I'm here. I'm waiting.

• 1:11:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:11:37Drew Afualo?

  I'm just hanging out, waiting for you. So, thank you so much for coming to the show. Uh, for the two people, maybe, that maybe don't know of you or where to find you, where can they find you?

• 1:11:46Speaker 03

  I am, um, I'm, I have the TikTok app.

• 1:11:52Speaker 03

  Um, Instagram, at Latrice Royale. I'm on Facebook, too.

• 1:11:55Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:11:55Speaker 03

  Um, you can follow me there.

• 1:11:57Drew Afualo?

  Love.

• 1:11:57Speaker 03

  And then, I don't really deal with the X thing anymore.

• 1:12:00Drew Afualo?

  Me either.

• 1:12:01Speaker 03

  And I haven't moved over to Blue Skies.

• 1:12:02Drew Afualo?

  Me either.

• 1:12:03Speaker 03

  So, it's just a little bit, it's more like Instagram or Facebook is where you're gonna find me.

• 1:12:07Drew Afualo?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:12:07Speaker 03

  Uh, or my website.

• 1:12:08Drew Afualo?

  Yes.

• 1:12:09Speaker 03

  You can keep up with me at LatriceRoyale.com and buy some merch at my store.

• 1:12:13Drew Afualo?

  Period. Get into it.

• 1:12:14Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 1:12:14Drew Afualo?

  Thank you so much for coming again. You're fantastic. I love you.

• 1:12:17Speaker 03

  I love you more.

• 1:12:18Drew Afualo?

  You're the best. Thank you all so much for tuning into this episode of the Comment Section Show. Don't forget to stream new episodes of the Comment Section every Wednesday. You can stream the audio on all streaming platforms, or the video lives for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. So, thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you to my amazing guest, Latrice Royale, and I'll see you next week. Bye.

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