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1:30 Speaker 03 In 2006, when the news broke that Nicole was the first survivor of the NorCal rapist, she went back to the Ronald Park Police Station to give them a piece of her mind.
1:43 Speaker 04 I had like lightning bolts coming out of my eyes towards them.
1:47 Speaker 03 When she got to the police station that day, she learned that Detective Diane had left a long time ago, and the other officer had retired. But for her own sake and the sake of other victims, she had a message to deliver.
2:03 Speaker 04 Maybe if this department had investigated a little bit better, maybe the following nine women wouldn't have been attacked. Maybe you should have believed me. Maybe you should have talked to Sonoma. Maybe you should have brought in bigger, bigger and heavier resources. I don't know. Maybe if you had done any of those things, we wouldn't be sitting here today.
2:22 Speaker 03 From Sony Music Entertainment and Perfect Cadence, you're listening to Hunting the Bogeyman. I'm Peter McDonnell. This is episode three, The Roller Coaster.
2:37 Speaker 03 When the NorCal rapist attacked in Sacramento in 2006, the public alarm bell finally rang.
2:46 Speaker 03 If you've lived in Northern California, make sure to lock your doors, turn on your outside lights, and if you can help it, don't sleep alone.
2:56 Speaker 03 The hunt for the NorCal rapist had been supercharged.
3:00 Speaker 05 Tonight, new leads in the investigation into a serial rapist.
3:04 Speaker 06 Someone out there knows who he is.
3:05 Speaker 05 Police say the first victim was assaulted in Ronard Park.
3:08 Speaker 06 He's smarter than the average crook. He's covered his tracks for 15 years.
3:11 Speaker 05 Detectives have linked all of these cases with DNA. Fear hangs in the air.
3:15 Speaker 06 I would be afraid because I don't think he'll stop.
3:20 Speaker 03 At some point in my conversations with Nicole, I realized that she still didn't know how her case was finally linked to the series. Neither did I, so I decided to find out. The answer takes us back to 1997, the year the NorCal rapist attacked two women in Davis, California. A detective named Kay LaPelt, who was just days away from retiring, caught the case. I drove to Davis to meet him.
3:52 Speaker 03 Kay is now in his mid-80s and has a white handlebar mustache. He looks like the Quaker Oats guy. I parked next to his vegetable garden, and he opened the screen door to invite me inside. He was busy making Cornish hens for dinner. There was a heat wave, and his 100-year-old farmhouse had no AC, but it was cool enough. He poured me some water, and we sat in his dining room to talk.
4:16 Speaker 07 It was January 25th of 1997. And a Saturday morning, and I was called here at home and told about a sexual assault. And our crime scene investigator was already there, taking photographs and such. But I met with the victims. We walked through the apartment together, and my instruction to them is, "Don't touch anything, but tell me what's out of place."
4:53 Speaker 03 The answer was, "A lot."
4:57 Speaker 03 The rapist had pulled two mattresses downstairs and onto the floor of the living room. He apologized for binding them. He also warned them not to tell anyone, or their names would be publicized and they'd be ashamed. And he threatened to come back and harm them. They called the police anyway. The women had done sexual assault kits, but somewhere along the line, the DNA testing got messed up. Kay didn't want to point a finger at anyone, but I sensed he had someone in mind. Kay decided to focus on the case and delay his retirement for a while. Then he found a major clue.
5:35 Speaker 07 We'd learned that their cards, their ATM cards, had been used shortly after he left the apartment.
5:43 Speaker 03 In all of the rapist's previous thefts, he used black spray paint to blind the ATM security cameras. He did this at the first bank he went to in Davis. But when he drove across town to the next bank, his behavior changed.
5:57 Speaker 07 In that one, he approached the ATM, and he's wearing... Later, we found a copy, an exact copy of what the mask was.
6:09 Speaker 03 The mask was clear, but it eerily distorted his face. He went up to the ATM camera, his head cocked to one side, and looked right into the lens.
6:20 Speaker 07 It's kind of like taunting, you know? Catch me if you can.
6:25 Speaker 03 The ATM images of the NorCal rapist were the closest anyone had come to seeing him. But they made him look so freakish, even his family might not have recognized him. A few days later, Kay caught another break.
6:38 Speaker 07 I got a call from an FBI agent in San Francisco that, hey, this MO, that sounds familiar. And she, she turned me on to, I think it was the 1992 Valeo case.
7:02 Speaker 03 Kay learned of many of the other cases in the series, the ones Paul Holes had helped connect. Based on MO alone, Kay was 99% sure that the attack in Davis was part of the series.
7:14 Speaker 07 I had promised our two victims that I would work on this case and do everything I can to catch this guy.
7:24 Speaker 03 He kept that promise, too. When Kay finally retired from the police department and went to work part-time as an investigator at the DA's office, he took their case with him. Then, one day in 2000, he was working outside in his front yard when a sergeant from Davis PD pulled up and rolled down the window.
7:44 Speaker 07 Hey, Kay, we had a rape. Anyone to tell me about it. He actually kidnapped the victim out of the apartment, put her in the car, took her to the bank and raped her in the car, then returned her to her apartment. Do you think this could be part of that series?
8:08 Speaker 03 The rapist had never struck twice in the same town before. Was he getting sloppy? Or bolder? Did it mean he lived in Davis or nearby in Woodland or in Sacramento? The sergeant gave Kay a copy of the police report. Kay read it.
8:27 Speaker 07 That's him.
8:29 Speaker 03 The two attacks in Davis were strikingly similar. In both, the rapist wore a mask, used bindings, threatened and apologized, and spent a long time with the victims. Stranger rapes tend to be fast, but NorCal rapist attacks lasted hours. Fortunately, there was DNA evidence in the case. Kay helped definitively link it with the others in this series. And during this entire time, from 1997 to 2000, Kay had been working with Paul Holes.
9:02 Speaker 05 He's developing various suspects during his efforts.
9:07 Speaker 07 I went up to Oregon, followed leads. I went to San Quentin Prison, talked to other suspects that we were.
9:15 Speaker 05 We're eliminating these suspects as he's getting samples.
9:19 Speaker 03 These two investigators, Kay at the end of his career, Paul in the middle, met in Davis for a roundtable discussion about NorCal.
9:29 Speaker 03 The DA's office, where Kay worked part-time, granted him permission to keep pursuing it if he wanted to.
9:36 Speaker 03 Paul had no such permission. At that point in his career, he was going rogue. Paul had tried to hide his obsession with cold cases from the higher-ups at the sheriff's office, but word was getting out.
9:49 Speaker 05 And my bosses were starting to clamp down on me in terms of my cold case pursuits, in part because some of the staff had complained about how I was killing them because I was just constantly putting requests in on these old, old cases.
10:05 Speaker 03 They told Paul to stay in his lane, stick to the regular casework, stop running extra DNA tests at the lab, and keep an eye on the budget. But Paul didn't listen.
10:17 Speaker 05 This type of predator is going to reoffend, and that's what he did. And Kay's digging and finds out about an attack of a. 21-year-old woman named Nicole in Roanoke Park.
10:29 Speaker 03 This was how they found her.
10:31 Speaker 07 I was convinced that the Roanoke Park matched our MO.
10:36 Speaker 05 He feels strongly, and I felt strongly, this sounds like the same guy.
10:41 Speaker 07 I wanted to tie it in, yes or no, and the only way to do that was with DNA.
10:48 Speaker 03 By now, it was 2001, 10 years after Nicole was attacked.
10:53 Speaker 05 Then there was a case right after that in Sonoma that was like identical.
11:00 Speaker 03 That was the second attack in the series, the one Nicole read about in the newspaper and then called the reporter to say, that's the same guy. The Sonoma case hadn't been formally connected by DNA either. So Kay reached out to Roanoke Park to see if they had any DNA evidence in Nicole's case, and Paul reached out to the Sonoma PD.
11:20 Speaker 05 So I end up having the evidence tech from Sonoma bring their evidence to the lab to see if we could tie this to the same offender. In the Sonoma case, though, we unfortunately were not able to find DNA evidence.
11:34 Speaker 03 Kay told me he couldn't remember the details of his communication with the Roanoke Park PD, but he didn't need to. Paul had copies of Kay's written reports.
11:44 Speaker 05 Three months after this roundtable, he writes, as of this writing, I have not received any information from Roanoke Park PD concerning their DNA evidence.
11:55 Speaker 05 In April of 2002, a year later, Kay writes, after many requests, Roanoke Park located their DNA evidence and agreed to release it all to him, to Kay.
12:09 Speaker 07 Yeah, they didn't care anymore. I went to Roanoke Park.
12:13 Speaker 03 Kay picked up the evidence in Nicole's case and drove to the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Office crime lab, where he handed it over to Paul.
12:22 Speaker 05 I assign it to a DNA analyst, and she is able to generate DNA from the semen evidence in the case and link it to the NorCal rapist series.
12:36 Speaker 03 There's a nice twist to this story, too. Is this DNA analyst, do you know this person very well?
12:41 Speaker 05 I do, yeah. Today, she's my wife.
12:48 Speaker 03 In the world of law enforcement, the jurisdiction where the crime occurred is usually in charge of communicating with the victim. And if that changes, they formally introduce the victim to a new point person. But from 1992 to 2006, Nicole said she didn't hear anything about her case. And when she finally did, it wasn't from Ronard Park. Even though Paul helped link Nicole's case to the series, for these jurisdictional reasons, to this day, Nicole and Paul have never met. But later in this story, I'll introduce them.
13:27 Speaker 03 By the summer of 2006, the hunt for the NorCal rapist had led nowhere. Finding his trail would require some major new clues, which is exactly what police in Sacramento got that October.
13:42 Speaker 05 Well, this is some good new evidence that they released today. And hopefully, this is finally, after 15 years, going to lead them to this attacker. That's what they're hoping.
13:54 Speaker 03 The new evidence police found in 2006 fell into the hands of a veteran sex crimes detective at the Sacramento Police Department, named Avis Berry. Hey Detective Berry.
14:05 Speaker 01 Sure if you can hear me.
14:07 Speaker 03 Yes, now I can hear you. Avis was sitting on her couch after a long night of work, the computer on her knees. A few years ago, she retired from the Sacramento PD and became a sexual assault investigator for the DA's office. At some point, which nobody seems to know, the bad guy in this story became known as the NorCal rapist. I asked Avis when she first heard that name.
14:32 Speaker 01 And I was actually on vacation. And when I came back, they, you know, my team was like, "Oh, you're never going to believe this. We got a double rape." And I was like, "Oh, man. Why do I always miss the good stuff?" Like, that's a really terrible thing to say. But like, when you're in law enforcement or, you know, homicide and you get like a triple, it's terrible. But at the same time, it's like, "Wow, this is a good case," you know? So, we're a little weird, all of us. But like, that was a really exciting case for somebody who is a sex assault detective.
15:02 Speaker 03 And it was a much bigger case than Avis realized. When they uploaded the suspect's DNA to the FBI's CODIS database, it matched seven other cases.
15:14 Speaker 01 I was shocked. So then the red handle gets pulled by the brass because we've got rapes from across Northern California, spanning from 1991 all the way to 2006.
15:30 Speaker 03 First, Avis compared the DNA to all of her local 290s, sex offenders, and to parolees, but there was no match. So she kicked it up a notch.
15:41 Speaker 01 We worked with a DOJ profiler. I worked with a handwriting analyst. I worked with a geographic profiler.
15:48 Speaker 03 All of that led to nothing. She had two big new clues, though. The first one was that a surveillance camera on a neighbor's garage caught a few frames of a white Toyota 4Runner driving by at the same time of night that the victim said the rapist left. And no one in the neighborhood recognized the vehicle. With help from the DMV, Avis compiled a list of everyone in California who owned a 4Runner. There were thousands. So she narrowed it down to the owners of white 4Runners in seven counties.
16:22 Speaker 01 Where I believed this suspect either lived or worked or both. Packets were made for every vehicle, show with a picture of the registered owner, accurate information that shows where they've lived, any kind of data that we could get. We named this, by the way, Operation 4Runner.
16:47 Speaker 03 The Sacramento PD offered investigators overtime pay to take one or more of the 300 packets and, on their days off, track down and interview the suspects. Each packet had the same list of mandatory questions.
17:01 Speaker 01 Can I look at your vehicle? Who drives this vehicle besides you? Have you had any work done on your vehicle?
17:10 Speaker 03 The last question was, would you be willing to provide a DNA sample?
17:19 Speaker 01 Well, we got over 100 DNA samples and all of those were cleared.
17:24 Speaker 01 Because, you know, they obviously all came back that they didn't match NorCal rapist profile. You know, we knew that we were dealing with kind of a needle in a haystack.
17:34 Speaker 03 After months of work, they couldn't find the proverbial needle. And the tab for Operation Forerunner for overtime, mileage, and DNA tests had swelled to the hundreds of thousands of dollars. With no new leads, Operation Forerunner slowed down. Avis let Nicole and the other survivors know she'd still do everything in her power to find him.
17:57 Speaker 01 I tried to be really selective about what I told the victims because it's a roller coaster for me. It's, it's opening up a wound for them. You know, sex assault victims never, I don't think ever really totally heal from their wounds.
18:15 Speaker 03 I was curious what Avis thought when she read Nicole's case for the first time.
18:19 Speaker 01 I absolutely believed her. And I felt terrible to my core that somebody would not believe her. For, for what reason? Well, when I speak with, you know, other investigators, you know, I always tell them, you don't lose anything by, by believing your victim from the get-go. And if you run and there's no reason to be an A-hole to your victim. If you run your investigation the way you're supposed to, you're going to figure out that this is BS or it's not. It's that simple.
18:53 Speaker 03 The second new clue Avis had was just as good as the Forerunner. One of the victims in Sacramento saw the NorCal rapist without his mask on. And he looked just like Nicole had thought, except after 15 years, he put on a lot of weight.
19:11 Speaker 01 And I said, well, you know, he must be married because he's obviously out of shape.
19:16 Speaker 03 The survivor worked with a sketch artist to create a new composite. The NorCal rapist was now in his 40s with light brown spiked hair, clean shaven with full cheeks and wide cheekbones. He looked like a bully from the 1950s or like an angry Biff from the movie Back to the Future. Avis called Nicole.
19:38 Speaker 04 And she told me that she was trying to get more national publicity on the, on the case because she's like, we don't know where this guy lives. He could live anywhere.
19:46 Speaker 03 Which was why Avis decided to pitch the NorCal rapist case to the producers of America's Most Wanted.
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20:59 Speaker 03 In 2008, America's Most Wanted covered the NorCal rapist case.
21:04 Speaker 07 A twisted serial rapist in Northern California has been working on perfecting his bizarro fantasies for some 15 years now. He's called the NorCal Rapist, and tonight, we're hot on his trail.
21:21 Speaker 03 Avis, Nicole, and another survivor were interviewed.
21:26 Speaker 04 Somebody's going to recognize this guy. Someone's going to recognize a pattern or have a gut feeling or spidey sense or something and call, and it's going to be the right person.
21:35 Speaker 03 It's how big cases sometimes get solved. In 1995, David Kozinski recognized his brother Ted's use of language in the Unabomber's manifesto, published in The New York Times and Washington Post. In 2024, Luigi Mangione was caught when a worker at McDonald's recognized him from images online.
21:56 Speaker 03 The NorCal rapist episode of America's Most Wanted aired on Nicole's 38th birthday. She and her husband Carlos threw a party. Here's Carlos. When AMW came out, I thought, oh, we're gonna get him with this. What a birthday gift that would be. Nicole's friend even brought a cake decorated with his composite sketch behind gray bars of icing.
22:21 Speaker 04 And then she handed me a giant butcher knife and I cut into his face. It was great.
22:27 Speaker 03 There were so many people who watched America's Most Wanted that Detective Avisbeery was almost certain they were going to get a lead on it that would finally crack the case. Somebody would recognize his car. Somebody would know his face.
22:42 Speaker 04 But it didn't work.
22:46 Speaker 03 None of the show's tips panned out. The hunt for the NorCal rapist stalled again.
22:51 Speaker 06 I think we both kind of, our hopes got shot down a little bit after, maybe a year or two after America's One came out.
22:59 Speaker 03 Nicole and Carlos moved on with their lives. But a few years later, when their son was in elementary school, a new dad at drop-off caught Nicole's eye.
23:11 Speaker 04 And I looked at him and I kept staring at him and he just had this presence about him and he had kind of similar skin, similar characteristics. And I went home and I said, Carlos, it wouldn't surprise me if it was him. We don't know who this person is. And I sort of stayed away from that person. He made me uncomfortable.
23:30 Speaker 03 Whenever Nicole thought about who this nameless predator was, she also wondered what it must be like to walk around in his shoes.
23:38 Speaker 04 How awful to be a sociopath. How awful would it be to be that angry? How awful would it be to be that unhinged? I did not negate the fact that I wanted him in prison for the rest of his life. But what I would always think about is, what happened to you? What harm came to you? How did you get like this?
23:59 Speaker 03 As far as anyone knew, the NorCal rapist's attack in Sacramento in 2006 was his last. Had the publicity scared him? Did he relocate? Did he die? If he was still alive, Avis wanted him to slip up, drink too much and get a felony DUI, get caught breaking into someone's home. Any felony would do, because by law, he'd have to give a DNA sample, which would instantly unmask him as the NorCal rapist. But Avis had to move on to other cases. Whenever she saw a forerunner on the highway, though, she'd get right up next to it and peer inside.
24:43 Speaker 01 Is that my suspect? Is that him driving? I would catch up, look at him, write down the license plate, double-check it. Did we see this one? Did we check it? It was just always an unknown, and it really drove me crazy to think about it. And it's a roller coaster.
25:04 Speaker 03 By 2017, the odds of catching the NorCal rapist had diminished. More than a decade had passed since his last known attack, when Avis got a phone call.
25:17 Speaker 01 Paul contacted me and said, "Hey, can we sit down and meet and talk about NorCal?"
25:25 Speaker 03 Paul had left his job at the sheriff's office. His clashes with the higher-ups had taken a toll.
25:30 Speaker 05 I was just like, "Oh, I see the writing on the wall here. They're looking out for the sheriff's operation." And I'm going, "That is not my passion. My passion is here."
25:40 Speaker 03 "Here" meant solving cold cases. So Paul called his friend, the elected DA of Contra Costa County, Mark Peterson.
25:48 Speaker 05 And I said, "Hey, what about a job? Can you start a new department for me where I can do what I really want to do, which is solve these cold cases?" I literally, I created my own position in the county and slid over to the DA's office.
26:05 Speaker 03 When Paul drove to Sacramento to meet Avis, he was a full-time cold case investigator. Avis gave him a copy of all of her files. The NorCal rapist case had hit the same dead end as hundreds of thousands of homicides and stranger rapes worldwide. Detectives had the offender's DNA, but they didn't know who it belonged to. There had to be a way around this dead end. That's what Paul was looking for. One possibility was a form of genealogy using a male offender's Y chromosome to try and find his last name.
26:44 Speaker 05 Well, the Y is inherited from the male's dad.
26:49 Speaker 03 The process is called YSTR genealogy. Here's the idea behind it. In most societies, the male's surname gets passed down like a dominant gene. So if you can find one of your suspect's male ancestors, it might tell you your suspect's last name. But the process is hit or miss. The Y chromosome has more than 800 of what are called short tandem repeats, or STRs, which are unique sequences of genetic material. Usually, though, Paul only had a small sample of a suspect's STRs, sometimes as few as 10. When he uploaded them to a website called Ysearch.org, the site would spit out
27:32 Speaker 03 a list of potential surnames for the suspect based on the markers that matched. Sometimes, it was a very long list. But sometimes, it was not.
27:43 Speaker 05 And that's where you get excited, going, "Okay, I got the guy's last name."
27:51 Speaker 03 At this point in Paul's career, he was teaching classes on DNA to investigators.
27:56 Speaker 05 There were specific things I had to teach, but then I also added things. And one of the things I added was, "Well, think about doing this YSTR-type searching in your case." Well, one of the individuals that had seen me talking about this was this investigative assistant, Monica Tychowski.
28:13 Speaker 03 Monica was an investigative analyst at the Sacramento County DA's office. When Paul told his class that YSTR genealogy might be useful in breaking the logjam of a cold case, Monica's first thought was to try it on the NorCal rapist.
28:29 Speaker 05 She's probably the only one of anybody I've talked to about this that actually took the time to do it.
28:34 Speaker 04 We had a YSTR profile on the NorCal case. You know, we plugged in the data into the website and it gives you possible surnames. There were, you know, dozens of them, but one of them was the last name Waller.
28:53 Speaker 03 She told Paul, but there was a problem.
28:57 Speaker 04 That name was more common than you would think.
29:00 Speaker 05 I was researching, you know, various men with Wallers, you know, generally in the Bay Area. Nobody really popped. And I just was like, you know, I know I'm just going to be spinning my wheels here.
29:13 Speaker 04 We weren't able to narrow it down.
29:18 Speaker 03 Monica put the NorCal rapist case to the side. She and Paul were busy working with a small and secret team on a shot-in-the-dark experiment to identify a serial killer. The experiment made use of a more powerful, precise, and complex type of genealogy than YSTR. Paul had come across the idea in 2017, when a genealogist named Barbara Ray Venter used a woman's DNA profile and genealogy to identify her true name. The woman had been kidnapped as a baby. The process worked. And Paul thought,
29:57 Speaker 05 Huh. I wonder if anyone has ever done that to solve a homicide.
30:04 Speaker 03 No one had. So Paul contacted Barbara Ray Venter and pitched her on the idea. Together, they formed a team with an FBI lawyer named Steve Kramer, Monica Chakowsky at the Sacramento County DA's office, her boss Kirk Campbell, and a few others. Their quarry was the Golden State Killer, a white man in his 60s or 70s with blue eyes. He killed 13 people and raped 51 women and girls.
30:34 Speaker 03 Since the beginning of his career, Paul had tried everything to solve the case. This was his last-ditch attempt before he retired. The first part of this novel's strategy was easy. They uploaded the DNA profile of the Golden State Killer to a public genealogy database using a fake name. It was like putting your last, best bet into a slot machine and pulling the handle. The jackpot would be if the DNA profile matched one of the Golden State Killer's parents, siblings, or children. Because then, it would be easy to triangulate and find him. But they didn't hit the jackpot. It wasn't even close. They found a third cousin.
31:18 Speaker 03 Barbara Ray Venter told them that locating GSK's identity was still possible, but it was going to take some time. The team worked obsessively for months, hunting for GSK's closest ancestors by building enormous family trees all the way back to the 1700s in Italy. They pored over birth certificates, obituaries, and old newspapers. They visited graveyards to look at headstones. It took them thousands of hours. But then they found him.
31:51 Speaker 03 Joseph D'Angelo, a 72-year-old former cop who lived with his daughter and granddaughter in Citrus Heights, a suburb of Sacramento. Genealogy had given them the perfect lead. Within hours, undercover police surveilled D'Angelo and took a secret sample of his DNA. It was him. To avoid an armed standoff, they staked out his house and waited. Eventually, an oblivious D'Angelo ambled out to his side yard where there was nowhere to run, and they swarmed him. Handcuffed and in shock, he pleaded to be let free because he had a roast in the oven. Cooking! The next day, Anne Marie Schubert,
32:35 Speaker 03 the elected DA of Sacramento County, held a press conference.
32:40 Speaker 04 We found the needle in the haystack, and it was right here in Sacramento.
32:46 Speaker 03 Forensic investigative genealogy had cracked one of the biggest, coldest cases in US history. And everyone on the team knew which case would be next.
32:58 Speaker 05 Anne Marie is going, "I want this done on NorCal rapist."
33:04 Speaker 03 On the next episode of Hunting the Bogeyman.
33:09 Speaker 03 The team zeroes in on a suspect.
33:12 Speaker 01 He looks a lot like that composite.
33:13 Speaker 03 And they make an arrest.
33:15 Speaker 04 Oh my god, they caught him. They caught him.
33:18 Speaker 05 Don't tell anybody. We got an orcal.
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