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0:59 Speaker 01 It's just after dawn in late September 1987, and Tom Percival is about half an hour by car from Las Vegas. He's just launched his boat into the Colorado River. His wife is with him. They've planned a day with the kids, playing in the river's clean, clear water.
1:22 Speaker 02 We were probably at 10, 12 minutes into the water.
1:26 Speaker 01 As they head across the water, the two watch out for debris in their path.
1:32 Speaker 02 And that's when I see it.
1:34 Speaker 03 It's about...
1:36 Speaker 02 75 feet away.
1:37 Speaker 03 75, 80 feet, something like that.
1:39 Speaker 02 I told her it was a log. It just looked like it was barely floating underwater. It's barely breaking the surface.
1:46 Speaker 01 Tom's not convinced, so he steers the boat closer. As he approaches, time seems to stand still.
1:58 Speaker 02 I remembered everything. I mean, I could probably even tell you how many ripples were in the water at the time.
2:06 Speaker 01 Tom sees something unusual. He can't tell what it is.
2:11 Speaker 02 Looked like a beautiful mannequin.
2:15 Speaker 02 So I took the oar and kind of pushed on her. And she went about six inches underwater and then floated back to the surface.
2:24 Speaker 02 And I'm going, no. It's, it was a girl.
2:31 Speaker 02 I didn't want to hurt her skin. I didn't want to touch, really, I didn't want to touch her. And, uh, I was only just far away from her, six, eight inches.
2:44 Speaker 02 I remember looking at her hair, beautiful hair floating in the water.
2:49 Speaker 02 It just floating out like a, like a, like a rainbow, kind of like, just, it's beautiful.
2:56 Speaker 02 And she did have this, like a mossy green tint all over the skin that I could see.
3:05 Speaker 02 And that's when I noticed the teardrop. Right in the corner of her eye, I saw a bloody tear.
3:12 Speaker 02 I about lost it right there. And I said, who would do this to this poor girl?
3:24 Speaker 01 The girl's name was Sabrina Kidd, but no one knew that. They won't know that for years. Nobody will know that Sabrina is dead. And still wouldn't know if not for the preternatural drive of a total stranger. A stranger who decided for her own reasons to find out what happened to Sabrina.
3:49 Speaker 01 This is a story of lies, cons, and cover-ups.
3:52 Speaker 04 He said she never came home. I go, "That motherfucker's lying."
3:56 Speaker 01 And of a woman compelled to get justice for someone she's never met.
4:01 Speaker 05 No one ever dared tell me anything. I did it because I wanted to, because I was telling the truth.
4:06 Speaker 01 And it's a story of yearning for better endings.
4:10 Speaker 06 Because I just want someone to love me, someone to care about me unconditionally.
4:15 Speaker 01 This is Killer Story. I'm Steve Fishman. Episode One, A Rose For Mom.
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5:06 Speaker 01 Head west from the Colorado River, and you'll most likely run into Las Vegas, known across America as Sin City. That's its attraction. Las Vegas is a place to do whatever you want. People float into Vegas to shake off their workaday selves. They hit the Vegas Strip, a row of casinos with high-stepping showgirls and flashing neon lights, so bright you can see them miles into the Mojave Desert. Viva Las Vegas, a place where adults gamble on changing their stories. What Sin City is not is a place for a beautiful, naive teenager.
5:46 Speaker 01 So why, in the late spring of 1987, did 17-year-old Sabrina Kidd move to Vegas alone? The answers begin with her mother, don't they always?
6:01 Speaker 01 It's the 1980s and Sabrina is a child living with her mom, Bobby Sue, in Texas.
6:07 Speaker 06 She worshipped her mom.
6:09 Speaker 01 This is Dewana, Sabrina's first cousin.
6:12 Speaker 06 I remember when I would go over and I would spend the weekend over at my Aunt Bobby's and Sabrina and I would, we would go walk the strip mall.
6:21 Speaker 01 Sabrina was probably eight or nine at the time. At the strip mall, they drifted past store windows, peering in, until Sabrina found what she wanted, always the same thing.
6:34 Speaker 06 And her ideal was always to stop and get her mom a rose.
6:39 Speaker 01 And so I picture a young girl walking with a single rose in her hand. She holds it in front of her like a candle. I imagine it's red. She's moving with purpose, eager to get home to mom with her special gift. But mom wasn't always there, not emotionally at least. Mom was beautiful herself, a Playboy model at one point, according to Dewana. And men flocked. And when a man came into Bobby Sue's life, well, that's when mom's focus changed. And Sabrina was out of the picture.
7:17 Speaker 06 She spoiled Sabrina and gave her just about whatever she wanted. I mean, material things she didn't do without. But her mom was always gone. So, you know, as long as Sabrina got in the way of her boyfriends or got in the way of anything, then, you know, she just shoved her off onto people.
7:38 Speaker 01 At 17, Sabrina moved in with Dewana, whose family had migrated from Texas to Vegas. They shared an apartment for a time.
7:47 Speaker 06 She was over in the one bed and I was in the other bed. And I asked her, I said, "What do you want?" And she goes, "I just want someone to love me, someone to care about me unconditionally and not judge me."
7:59 Speaker 01 Did you remember saying anything to that?
8:03 Speaker 06 I told her, "You know, I love you."
8:08 Speaker 01 Sabrina wasn't particularly bold or assertive. She didn't strike people as driven. She was running from, not to. But she was a good friend, the kind everyone values. This is her friend Jennifer.
8:23 Speaker 04 She was just a really nice, good-hearted person. And she was very trusting and she was a good friend. And the big standout for me is that she was just, just really kind.
8:40 Speaker 01 Sabrina did have moments of conflict, and not just with her mother. A few weeks after she moved in with her cousin, Dewana, they had a falling out. Dewana didn't approve of a guy Sabrina was seeing. So much for unconditional love. The boyfriend was soon gone and Sabrina was on her own again, hunting for a job and a home where she felt welcome. I imagine her rippling with anxiety. And yeah, I find that heartbreaking. Seventeen and on your own and just wanting to be loved. Then she met Jim and life seemed to get better. They met at a party.
9:22 Speaker 07 As soon as I saw her, I was like, wow, she's a cutie. And so obviously I started to strike up the conversation and we just hit it off.
9:31 Speaker 01 This is Jim Bixel. Jim was a good-looking Vegas native. He sported a moment when it was the going fashion and usually wore a leather motorcycle jacket.
9:42 Speaker 07 She didn't get into detail with me, but just the little things that she did tell me, yeah, she did not have a great childhood. So one of my goals was just for me to make sure she had a great time whenever we were together.
9:55 Speaker 01 A lot of those great times involved Jim's motorcycle.
9:59 Speaker 07 I bought a Kawasaki Ninja 600. The crotch rocket is what we called it. On the weekends, we'd meet at the old Wet and Wild Water Park on Las Vegas Boulevard on the Strip, right next to the Sierra Hotel.
10:14 Speaker 07 And then at midnight, we would all take off and we'd do a really fast, long ride somewhere. We went up to Mount Charleston.
10:22 Speaker 01 Mount Charleston is over two miles high.
10:25 Speaker 07 We came down that canyon and we were doing 135, 140 miles an hour.
10:32 Speaker 07 She was definitely holding on for dear life. She would love going fast. She would say, you know, riding on the bike really makes me feel free.
10:46 Speaker 01 In Las Vegas, friends remember Sabrina as a blonde, though I've seen early photos and in them she's a brunette with thick, gentle waves of hair. She has hazel eyes. Her skin is almost as pale as her shining teeth. In most of the photos, she's smiling, though it strikes me as the smile you put on for the camera, thinking one thing's showing another. To me, Sabrina looks almost middle-aged in these photos. In one, she actually wears pearls. She looks ready for a job as a bank teller.
11:22 Speaker 01 In Vegas, Sabrina seems to shake off the person she was. For one thing, she lightens her hair and she crafts a signature hairstyle, short on one side, long on the other, and sometimes she manages to feel free.
11:41 Speaker 01 Jim introduces Sabrina to his friends. One, a childhood friend, lives with his girlfriend at his father's house. Turns out that his father has an extra bedroom to rent and Sabrina jumps at the chance.
11:54 Speaker 07 So Sabrina liked that idea and said, yeah, I'll do that.
11:58 Speaker 01 Sabrina hasn't had a steady address in the six months she's been in Vegas, and now that problem seems solved.
12:06 Speaker 01 Life seems to be getting better and better for Sabrina. A dependable living situation, new friends, a boyfriend who makes her feel free. And she's recently interviewed for a job at the fashion mall, and she landed it. Her first solid gig since arriving in Las Vegas. She seems to have, to her credit, developed a network of support in an intimidating new city. And then, another break. Her friend's father, her landlord.
12:36 Speaker 07 He asked her something the effect of, hey, what do you want to do ultimately with your life? And she said, you know, I'd like to be a model.
12:43 Speaker 01 And her landlord, a kind, fatherly figure, encouraged her. And so for Sabrina Kidd, life is looking pretty good. She's too young to gamble, but it's as if she walked into a casino and exited with a pocketful of cash. And then, just as everything is coming together, one morning in late summer, one of Sabrina's best friends knocks on her door, expecting to spend the day with her. Instead, she learns that Sabrina didn't come home the previous night. No one sees her ever again. Sabrina vanishes. Why? How? What happened to this promising life on that late summer morning?
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14:26 Speaker 01 In Las Vegas, Sabrina made a couple of close friends, Jennifer and Crystal. They were the same age as Sabrina, 17. They'd grown up in Vegas. The three were a striking trio, young, full of life and pretty. They snuck into Caesar's Palace to hear their favorite bands. They went to high school parties. They talked nearly every day. This is Jennifer.
14:52 Speaker 04 You talk about like girl shit and boys and what are we doing this weekend? And what are you wearing? That's the kind of stuff. It's day to day. It's weekend to weekend. It's not really deep like, oh, my mother's, you know, it doesn't, it never got into that. So you were all 17? Yeah. Vegas was a good town to be 17 in? It was because you knew everybody. You know, there was only so many high schools. Everybody knew everybody.
15:23 Speaker 01 So they did Las Vegas-y things like hang on the strip and teenage things like attend a junior varsity football game, which is what was on the agenda on what would be the evening before Sabrina disappeared.
15:39 Speaker 01 After Sabrina vanished, Jennifer and Crystal would review again and again their last hours together.
15:48 Speaker 01 It's September 17th, 1987. The evening starts with a junior varsity football game at Valley High School. It's a bit after sunset and Crystal picks up Sabrina. Sabrina doesn't have a car, though. With her new job, it's on her list. As usual, Sabrina looks great. She's tall and slender. Her nails are painted pink, her favorite color from childhood. A couple of boys decide to flirt with Sabrina, which annoys the boys' girlfriends, harshing the mellow. Crystal and Sabrina leave in a bad mood, talking about those rude girls.
16:28 Speaker 01 A bit after 8:00 PM, Crystal drops Sabrina off at her place. An hour or so later that same evening, so still September 17, Jennifer picks Sabrina up. Around 9:00 PM, they head over to Jennifer's boyfriend's apartment. He's older and has his own place. Both Jennifer and Sabrina spend the night.
16:52 Speaker 01 It's now morning, September 18. Sabrina's running late for work and starts shaking Jennifer awake. Sabrina needs a ride home because Crystal is picking her up. Crystal and Sabrina are both working at Lane Bryant at the fashion mall, and they can't be late. So Jennifer drives Sabrina back to her place. She drops Sabrina at about 8:30 in the morning. The drop-off will stick in Jennifer's mind because Sabrina doesn't have her keys. She empties her purse in Jennifer's car looking for them, but no luck. Sabrina has to knock on the door. Jennifer remembers that the landlord lets Sabrina in. You dropped her off at like 9:00 in the morning and you...
17:37 Speaker 04 It was early. Yes.
17:41 Speaker 01 Right.
17:45 Speaker 01 About an hour later, Crystal pulls up to Sabrina's place. It's around 9:30 in the morning. Sitting in her car, Crystal honks, expecting Sabrina to pop out. As her friends know, Sabrina is dependable and always punctual. But Sabrina doesn't appear.
18:05 Speaker 01 So Crystal gets out of her car and goes to the front door and knocks, two times, three times. The door finally opens, but only a few inches. It's the landlord in his bathrobe. Usually, he's friendly to Crystal and invites her in. This morning, he seems put out. Crystal asks him, "You seen Sabrina? We're supposed to go to work. I told her I would meet her." "She's not home," the landlord tells her. He doesn't know where she is.
18:40 Speaker 01 So Crystal heads to work alone. Sabrina doesn't show up. Crystal doesn't hear from Sabrina all day. And neither does Jennifer. And they're usually in touch daily. Sabrina had mentioned an opportunity to go to California for free that weekend. Maybe she's taken up that offer. Maybe it's tied to modeling work or that guy she just met. Still, it isn't like Sabrina to be out of touch. Jennifer says they have to go to the police.
19:13 Speaker 04 We waited 24 hours and then we went to the police. We said she's missing, something happened, and they just didn't believe us. One point, they said that she was classed as a runaway. And there's nothing they could do.
19:28 Speaker 01 Jennifer isn't satisfied. When Sabrina doesn't show up in the next couple of days, she and Crystal return to the police department. This time, the cops accuse them.
19:39 Speaker 04 I remember them saying, "Oh, you were a prostitute that went to Caesar's Palace." And I was like, "No." Even if it was, it had nothing to fucking do with the fact that she's missing. I remember being so fucking angry.
19:54 Speaker 01 What happens after Jennifer and Crystal visit the police? As far as they can tell, nothing. Sabrina's case is filed with the files of hundreds of other missing teenagers. Seemingly a final resting spot. Except that her family back in Texas, Bobby Sue, Sabrina's mother, along with her aunt, will not give up. They scour missing person reports from around the country. They reach out to media. If they could just get her image on TV, maybe someone would recognize her. Four excruciating years pass like this.
20:38 Speaker 01 It's now 1991, and someone, mother or aunt, gets an idea. There's a very popular new tabloid TV show, A Current Affair. Maybe they've taken an interest in the story of a beautiful teenager who mysteriously vanishes in Las Vegas. It's worth a shot.
20:58 Speaker 05 And I'm sitting there one day, and the phone rings. And I pick it up.
21:16 Speaker 01 So in 1991, Lyndal Marks answers the phone in her office. Lyndal is, at that moment, a new reporter at the wildly popular TV show, A Current Affair, leader in the newest TV genre, the tabloid.
21:34 Speaker 05 I mean, we would get calls. Often, it would be people that you knew were crazy, people who just had dumb stories, just unbelievable stories, or, you know, "I've spotted a celebrity," or whatever. And, you know, "How much will you pay for my tape?"
21:56 Speaker 01 Today, the caller is a woman, middle-aged from the sound of her voice, soft-spoken, a Texas drawl. She introduces herself as the aunt. Lyndal hears the mother in the background.
22:09 Speaker 05 So I'm talking to her, I'm talking to her, and they weren't crazy at all. And this woman tells me that her niece is missing. And my first reaction was, okay.
22:26 Speaker 01 The aunt explains that her niece was living in Las Vegas when she vanished.
22:31 Speaker 05 And she was clearly upset. We have phoned newspapers, we've phoned other people in the media, we have phoned the local press. No one cares. We can't get anyone to do anything. You are our last resort.
22:48 Speaker 05 Right, okay. So what have you done to fight? Have you told the police? Yes, but the police have done nothing. What do you mean, the police have done nothing? We reported her missing a few days after she went missing. They've done nothing. And when I hear that, that makes me go, I'm here for you. I will listen to you.
23:09 Speaker 01 Lyndle is in her twenties and already a seasoned reporter. She comes from a hard news background. She's Australian, but more at home in a place like New York, where ambition, and she's ambitious, matters. I've seen a bunch of her TV segments from the 90s, and she looks cool in a 90s sort of way. Petite with perfect bangs and those shoulder pads that seemed so excellent back then. She's down to earth. She does her own makeup for TV. As a reporter, she's old school. Lots of shoe leather. Door knocking, file searching, and relentless, like irrationally relentless. Prides herself on that.
23:53 Speaker 01 The word hard-bitten comes to mind.
23:56 Speaker 05 You never take no for an answer.
23:57 Speaker 01 But also, she's like wildly idealistic. She seems to truly believe that her efforts, her relentless efforts, can change the course of history.
24:09 Speaker 05 If I feel like there's a big man kicking a little guy in the guts, I will go after that story. I will go after that with aggression and passion.
24:20 Speaker 01 And from where she sits, at a desk, on a phone, in a New York office, the mom and the aunt in Texas are the little guys. Lyndle can't believe that the cops shrugged at the report of their missing girl, that they shirked their duty. For a soft-spoken, helpless aunt and mother, the system couldn't be bothered. Or so it seemed to Lyndle at that moment.
24:46 Speaker 01 On the phone, the aunt shares more details. She says her niece disappeared from Las Vegas when she was 17.
24:54 Speaker 05 I asked her, when did she go missing? She said, four years ago.
25:00 Speaker 01 Whoa, Lindal, four years ago? And they're just popping up now? If there was a trail, it's not there anymore. That timetable would have made a lot of reporters hang up. Lindal keeps listening.
25:16 Speaker 05 So she's begging me to help. I just, I felt a connection with that family. I felt their pain and I just, I felt something was wrong. People don't just disappear into thin air.
25:31 Speaker 01 So Lindal, you thought everyone's pushing them aside so you can do something different?
25:36 Speaker 05 Yeah, 100%.
25:43 Speaker 01 Just one problem. Lindal doesn't actually have the authority to decide what story she works on. At a current affair, there's a chain of command. So she hangs up with the mother and aunt and heads to the office of news editor Dan Meanan. It's Dan who clears, or kills, story ideas. Reporters are in and out of his office all day. It's a busy place. Lindal edges her way in. This is Dan.
26:13 Speaker 00 She came up to me and said she got a phone call. And what do I think of this story? I said, it's a missing persons. We don't do missing persons. There's no conclusion to the story. And, and she kept insisting there was. I said, I can't, no, I can't waste any money on this. I'm sorry.
26:34 Speaker 05 There is something going on here. This, this just doesn't sound right. She's so young. How do you not follow this kid? She's a baby. How do you not follow that? How do you ignore a mother?
26:46 Speaker 00 She argued with me and said, it's a story here. I'm telling you, I feel it. This is a missing girl and it's not a murder investigation and we don't have facts. What is the viewer going to walk away with?
27:00 Speaker 01 Lindal, he's being clear. Stop the nonsense. Get back to work.
27:06 Speaker 00 You know, this is a sausage factory and I've got to come up with about four or five stories a night.
27:13 Speaker 00 So I can't be wasting my time on stories that I feel doesn't have a conclusion.
27:19 Speaker 01 Lyndle's reaction?
27:21 Speaker 05 Yeah, totally fuck off.
27:26 Speaker 01 All right, so a girl is missing. A girl who, because of one phone call, Lyndle feels tied to. And so, guess what? Lyndle will find a way.
27:38 Speaker 05 When I feel something and my instinct is telling me, this is right, I have to follow this, I will follow it. I will go down every rabbit hole. If I feel like a victim hasn't been given a voice, I won't stop until I have found a way to tell that story.
27:59 Speaker 01 Now, there's a reason that Lyndle is so compelled by this phone call and by this story. A reason that Lyndle's kept secret for years. A reason that she's ready to reveal on this podcast to a national audience. Just like it's a segment on A Current Affair. Only better.
28:23 Speaker 01 Next time on Killer Story. Lyndle's secret revealed.
28:29 Speaker 05 A friend of mine came to visit me and she just walked in and I remember the shock on her face. I felt an incredible sadness because I could feel that it was going to have an impact on her for the rest of her life. Not in a good way. I completely connected to what happened to me.
28:54 Speaker 04 I was glad somebody was investigating it and I remember being glad somebody believed us.
28:58 Speaker 05 If this wouldn't have worked for Lyndle, her career at A Current Affair may have come to a dead end. You wake up one morning, you go, screw it, I need to do this story.
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