Pod Insights The Big Picture The 2026 Movie Auction Returns! About this episode We’re back with the second part of our 2026 Movie Auction! Chris Ryan returns to look back at the results from the first auction (thus far), and then Chris, Sean, and Amanda bid against one another for some of their most anticipated movies coming out during the second half of the year.
(0:00) Intro
(1:17) ‘Werwulf’ trailer reaction
(5:20) The 2026 Movie Auction returns
Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins
Guest: Chris Ryan
Producer: Jack Sanders
Production Support: Lucas Cavanagh
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1:16 Sean Fennessey? I'm Sean Fenestra.
1:16 Speaker 00 I'm Amanda Dobbins.
1:17 Sean Fennessey? And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan sits between us.
1:24 Speaker 02 It's a big bowl over here. There's no auctioning that goes on here. Jack is like...
1:31 Speaker 00 Listen, the clock is back up on the display.
1:34 Sean Fennessey? The clock will be up. We've done one auction this year.
1:37 Speaker 02 You got a hot lunch date back there? Like, who cares about the clock?
1:41 Sean Fennessey? You want to hear Jack doing the bidding, accepting the bids in real time?
1:45 Speaker 02 It would be fun.
1:46 Sean Fennessey? Well, OK. Maybe we'll explore that for 2027, but this is 2026. This is part two of our movie auction, and we're gonna start selecting movies right after this.
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2:17 Sean Fennessey? Okay, we're back. Now, this is relevant to what we're going to discuss here on this auction episode, since we're at the halfway mark of the year. But anybody watch the Werewolf trailer?
2:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:28 Amanda Dobbins? I watched part of it. And I knew we were going to talk about it, but it's a real, it's important to me to know when things are for me and when things are not for me, and things are for you and meaningful to you, so.
2:40 Sean Fennessey? Delete your name from the episode right now, or I'm on the schedule for December 24th.
2:44 Amanda Dobbins? But you know that that's.
2:45 Sean Fennessey? The NCR, RMR, on Christmas Eve.
2:47 Speaker 02 Reconvene you, me, and Rob as the monster trio.
2:50 Sean Fennessey? I think top five Werewolf movies, done deal. You know, like, that episode writes itself. The film, Robert Eggers' adaptation of The Werewolf story, the trailer looks shockingly similar to the Nosferatu trailer.
3:03 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
3:04 Sean Fennessey? Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because that movie's a big hit, very well reviewed, but looks iterative?
3:11 Amanda Dobbins? And, and as someone who did actually both see Nosferatu and listen to your episode with Rob Mahoney, the villain of The Big Picture, three and a half years running, you guys walked out of it admiring, but not enthusiastic.
3:28 Speaker 02 At very low levels, yeah.
3:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, there was a distance from Nosferatu. So to then remake a thing that you already felt at a remove from, I don't know. How are you feeling?
3:40 Speaker 02 Can I, I'll jump in and say, not to paraphrase myself from that podcast, but we discussed whether or not Eggers was Wes Anderson-ing, at least in terms of the perception of him as a filmmaker, that like, he, A, liked to work in these little dioramas, but I would say even in the marketing of his films, perhaps is now leaning into a, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, kind of, don't change it.
4:02 Sean Fennessey? Don't cure this wereman.
4:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
4:04 Sean Fennessey? Don't let him be a demon.
4:05 Speaker 02 You guys want me to dig into another classic monster? I did.
4:09 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. I noted on a text chain, though, which Chris is a part of this morning, that like, it did feel to me like The Witch, The Lighthouse, and The Northland was like a progression. Different kinds of movies, similar register, but some funnier than others, some in different time periods, some with different emotional construction.
4:28 Sean Fennessey? Nosferatu felt a little more like the witch. The werewolf looks a lot like Nosferatu.
4:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
4:34 Sean Fennessey? So, you know, it's just a trailer. We don't know, but Nosferatu was such a big hit that it does make sense to just try to run it back. Aaron Taylor Johnson is back. He was one of the stars of Nosferatu. Willem Dafoe, of course, is in it. He's in every movie that Eggers makes. I'm generally a big fan of Eggers. He's been on the show like nine times. Absolutely miserable every time he speaks to me. And I look forward to the film.
5:00 Speaker 02 Miserable because he doesn't want to be a part of the promotion process?
5:02 Sean Fennessey? No, because I'm just like, Rob, tell me, like, in your, in your heart, what are the thematic core elements of Nosferatu?
5:08 Speaker 02 My job here was to recreate, what is it? 15th century English or whatever he's doing. Much like Wes Anderson, where I think everybody is like, looks like another fucking Wes Anderson movie. And then five years later, like, actually, this one had a lot of pathos. It's like, I wonder if that will start to happen for Eggers movies?
5:26 Sean Fennessey? I think that's insightful. Yeah, I think that's insightful. The movies are obviously incredibly well made and beautiful. And the sound design and the score and the costumes, production design, everything he does in that respect is top, top shelf.
5:36 Amanda Dobbins? He's doing his thing in like in his room with his toys and does it very well. And then to your, as you said, Nosferatu did extremely well at the box office. So like, if it's not broke, do not fix it. I get it. I just.
5:50 Speaker 02 Put that on the poster.
5:50 Amanda Dobbins? And I, and I, and I shall see it for professional reasons, but you know, it's, is it?
5:56 Speaker 02 If you shan't, you shan't, you know?
5:58 Amanda Dobbins? So, yeah.
6:01 Sean Fennessey? You're channeling the werewolf English there? Yeah. Okay. Nice.
6:04 Speaker 02 Whish.
6:06 Amanda Dobbins? Did you have to do Beowulf in Old English? In Old English?
6:10 Speaker 02 No, I don't remember.
6:11 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. Middle English. Sorry, Middle English. Oh, my God, please don't, the academics don't come for me.
6:15 Speaker 02 That's what you think is going to incite your response?
6:20 Sean Fennessey? Okay, I bring that up because I'm curious if Werewolf will get picked up in this movie auction today. We are... You want to look back at the slate? Do you want to address your outstanding concern?
6:31 Speaker 02 When is this episode coming out?
6:32 Sean Fennessey? July 2nd.
6:34 Speaker 02 Can I just say a trailer that I did think rocked?
6:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
6:37 Speaker 02 The weight?
6:39 Sean Fennessey? Oh, Ethan Hawke.
6:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, the Ethan Hawke, Russell Crowe movie?
6:41 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, sure. I have a link to that film right now.
6:43 Speaker 02 That looks like Treasure of Sierra Madre. That looks awesome.
6:45 Sean Fennessey? It was a Sundance film and got very nice reviews out of Sundance. So you're saying you like the idea of an adventure movie starring Ethan Hawke?
6:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
6:54 Sean Fennessey? I mean, well, don't spoil what you may want to grab that one. You may want to acquire it.
6:59 Speaker 02 This brings up a really great point. Sean, I think you did a wonderful job adding triggers and like, you know, a different layer of texture to this auction this year.
7:09 Sean Fennessey? But?
7:09 Speaker 02 Nothing. I think you did.
7:11 Amanda Dobbins? How would you isolate that? How would you describe the modulation in your tone of voice just there?
7:16 Speaker 02 Deep respect for a fellow podcaster.
7:20 Speaker 02 And friend.
7:21 Amanda Dobbins? Sure, yeah.
7:22 Speaker 02 I'll give him a kidney right now if he wants it.
7:23 Sean Fennessey? Fellow podcaster first, friend second, of course.
7:27 Speaker 02 It did change the texture of the films that I am considering drafting because I have things I need. I gotta do some stuff now.
7:34 Sean Fennessey? That is true. Do you have any general thoughts on the first half of the movie year and how you both grabbed films? Because we didn't grab too many movies that have come out already, which I find kind of fascinating.
7:50 Speaker 02 I was an idiot. I think I could have...
7:52 Sean Fennessey? You think so?
7:52 Speaker 02 Well, I think I could have chronologically broken the year up a lot more, but then I guess it's dependent on you two as well.
7:59 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
7:59 Speaker 02 But I have a lot to... I still have like, I have three films that need to like perform, basically, in the second half of the year.
8:07 Sean Fennessey? What do you think?
8:09 Amanda Dobbins? Well, of my feelings or of the... I think I did okay. And even the choices that I made that are sort of cringe-worthy to myself and to my self, you know, identity, are going to work out. For example, I got The Mandalorian and Grogu for $19. Is anyone happy with what happened there? No, but did it meet the box office threshold? It did, so I'm good and now I can get a little frisky.
8:34 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, there are upsides and downsides to that. If you've never listened to an auction episode before... Welcome. This is an odd one to start with. I would encourage you to go back to January, maybe, and listen to the first one that we did. But we each attempt to acquire five titles, and we have $1,000 to spend on those five titles, which is an arbitrary number that makes a lot of sense when you really think about it. That's where the first half happened, then the second half.
8:59 Speaker 02 I don't know if I've yet to spend $1,000 correctly.
9:02 Amanda Dobbins? Well, and the money does not roll over? Or did we decide last time that it could roll over?
9:07 Sean Fennessey? The money does not roll over, and that's notable.
9:08 Speaker 02 That's savings for taxpayers.
9:09 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
9:10 Sean Fennessey? That's right. CR, Amanda spent $1,000 last January. I spent $1,000, and Chris somehow has $679 remaining, which will now be dispersed to the masses of this fine country.
9:25 Speaker 02 Happy birthday, guys.
9:27 Sean Fennessey? I'll do the, I'll explain those triggers really quickly first.
9:30 Amanda Dobbins? And those are new, just if people are...
9:32 Sean Fennessey? We did them last year, I think, as well. Yeah, 2025-ish is when they came on board.
9:36 Amanda Dobbins? But if people are gonna start at the beginning of the auction history, things were a lot looser, a lot crazier. You really, you soared so close to the sun, and it was beautiful.
9:47 Speaker 02 This is a format close to my heart.
9:48 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
9:49 Speaker 02 Because it's all speculative, and it's all, it's all about betting on the future.
9:52 Sean Fennessey? I'm gambling again. 30 seconds per bid, which we never abide by, but we'll try to do that today. Movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions. So if your movie, if you grabbed a movie last year, you can grab it again this year if it hasn't been yet taken. The category triggers are: at least two films from the total slate of 10 films across the whole year must gross $100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations, and at least one of your films must hit an 85 Metacritic score. Now, that's very hard to do. Only 13 films released in 2025 did that. No more than two sequels on your slate. And that
10:35 Sean Fennessey? is where, taking something like The Mandalorian and Grogu is a very... Strategic choice with upsides and downsides. You're almost assured $100 million domestically, but then a sequel is off the board for you. Now you've only got one left. So let's go through our slates.
10:49 Speaker 02 Sure.
10:50 Sean Fennessey? From January, quickly. Amanda, since you already teased one, why don't you go through yours?
10:55 Amanda Dobbins? So I have Dune Part Three, which I paid $775. Sorry, I guess I forgot numbers for a minute there. That was my disclosure day happening. Project Hail Mary for $200. Thank you, thanks. It was, you know, that was late breaking, but thank you. The Social Reckoning for $1, which means that you guys were just like, you left me hanging. And that's fine, I deserve it. Verity, $5, and Mandalorian and Grogu for $19.
11:24 Speaker 02 Okay. So so far you've hit, what, did you get any Metacritic?
11:29 Amanda Dobbins? No, none of us have Metacritic yet.
11:31 Sean Fennessey? So you do yours, then we'll do through all the thresholds we've hit already.
11:34 Speaker 02 Okay. I picked Wuthering Heights for $75 and also talked about my experiences romantically.
11:43 Sean Fennessey? You did. And how many land acknowledgements have you given?
11:48 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, is that what that was? Okay, I'd forgotten.
11:52 Sean Fennessey? Just count it down for us. Let's go night by night, go to your journal.
11:56 Speaker 02 Once I have done one somewhere, like, Southern California is blessed. Do you know what I mean?
12:02 Amanda Dobbins? You're going regionally.
12:03 Speaker 02 I'm looking forward, I'm possibly going to Florida in September, and I can't wait to commune with my Seminole brothers, you know?
12:09 Sean Fennessey? You've never spread your seed in that part of the land.
12:14 Amanda Dobbins? Think, think really carefully.
12:16 Speaker 02 That's really a good question. I think I actually have.
12:18 Sean Fennessey? No kidding?
12:18 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
12:19 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, when was that?
12:20 Amanda Dobbins? Florida, not?
12:21 Speaker 02 I was young. I was a young kid.
12:22 Sean Fennessey? Like six, seven?
12:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
12:26 Sean Fennessey? You said young!
12:27 Speaker 02 I was younger. I'm almost 50.
12:29 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
12:30 Speaker 02 Okay.
12:30 Amanda Dobbins? Florida's a yes for you, yeah.
12:32 Sean Fennessey? What are we doing for 5-0?
12:33 Amanda Dobbins? No one's paying attention to me.
12:34 Speaker 02 A couple of ideas. Couple of ideas.
12:37 Amanda Dobbins? Miami, the Raleigh Hotel, it was a great time.
12:39 Speaker 02 London was in the mix.
12:41 Sean Fennessey? For 5-0.
12:44 Speaker 02 Bacchanalian dance party is in the mix?
12:46 Sean Fennessey? Where would that take place?
12:47 Speaker 02 Los Angeles.
12:48 Amanda Dobbins? I thought we were doing London.
12:50 Speaker 02 I'd like to go to London for my 50th.
12:51 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
12:52 Speaker 02 Okay.
12:52 Amanda Dobbins? I'd like to come too.
12:55 Amanda Dobbins? I'm like, I'm trying to get side of the point where he could fly.
12:57 Speaker 02 Oh, I thought maybe like you were like.
12:59 Amanda Dobbins? I'll just hit three. So, or I guess I could get a babysitter. Yeah.
13:03 Speaker 02 We could, we could talk it out.
13:04 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. I think Knox would like it so much, though. You got him so much London stuff now. He knows all the, he wants to go see Big Ben, you know?
13:11 Sean Fennessey? Is Amanda invited?
13:15 Speaker 02 You're the only person.
13:16 Sean Fennessey? Just me and you.
13:17 Speaker 02 I got Wuthering Heights, Resident Evil, I took for $72. Devil Wears Prada 2 for $26. The Adventures of Cliff Booth for $76 and Disclosure Day for $72. I still have $679 million.
13:31 Sean Fennessey? I think your slate is fascinating.
13:32 Speaker 02 It was interesting.
13:35 Sean Fennessey? My slate is a bit more lopsided financially. I got The Odyssey for $926. I won't be doing that, that strategy again. I'll just let you know right now. Toy Story for $1. Narnia the Magician's Nephew for $18, which has now been punted to 2027 by Netflix. And I read the whole book for nothing, you know?
13:56 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
13:57 Sean Fennessey? Read the whole book.
13:57 Speaker 02 Because you think you're gonna forget everything by the time it comes out?
14:01 Sean Fennessey? Not ideal when you read it to a four-year-old and then you just gotta sit on your hands for a year and wait.
14:05 Speaker 02 And 2027, like, award season 2027?
14:08 Amanda Dobbins? No, it's like February, March. I'm, I'm getting nervous. I'm good. Yeah, no, it's, it's, that, that was kind of buried because everyone was like, oh, wow, it's getting a full release and they're doing it. But yeah, it's, it's like early April. It's, alarm bells are going off.
14:24 Sean Fennessey? The, the, we can talk about this more over the next nine months, I guess, but Alice watched The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe adaptation from the 2000s yesterday and enjoyed it, but it's weird. And the Narnia material, having read it, is very strange and obviously very Christian-coded.
14:43 Amanda Dobbins? February 12th, 27 in theaters, April 2nd on Netflix for Easter.
14:48 Sean Fennessey? Easter weekend on Netflix.
14:48 Amanda Dobbins? So you can celebrate as a part of your, your holy week.
14:52 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, well, we'll see where I'm at on my spiritual journey by then. I got Digger for $5.
14:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:57 Sean Fennessey? Interesting gamble. And Jack of Spades for $50, a movie that still does not yet have a release date.
15:01 Speaker 02 That's Joel Cohen.
15:02 Sean Fennessey? That's the Joel Cohen film, which I suspect will be a Fall Film Festival movie, but we just don't know about that. Now, you got Cliff Booth, which slid into that Greta Gerwig Narnia spot.
15:13 Speaker 02 Yeah.
15:14 Sean Fennessey? And it is opening on 1,000 IMAX screens, but I think only has a limited engagement.
15:19 Speaker 02 Are you surprised there has not been a single whisper about like, man, it's really good?
15:23 Sean Fennessey? Cliff Booth?
15:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
15:24 Sean Fennessey? It's been lock and key. I've not heard a single thing about it.
15:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
15:28 Sean Fennessey? Not a single thing.
15:30 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I mean, I would like to see it. I would like to know more. It seems like it's not going to be at the Venice Film Festival, even though Netflix has, yeah.
15:40 Sean Fennessey? What makes you say that? Was there a report?
15:42 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, the most recent reports are that it was, it's not on the list. And then, but the Denzel, Robert Pattinson.
15:49 Sean Fennessey? Here Comes the Flood.
15:50 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, Here Comes the Flood will be one of the Netflix selections at Venice instead, but.
15:55 Sean Fennessey? That movie is on the board. That's, that's the movie I've been pointing to the most this year where I'm like, why is this movie going straight to Netflix?
16:00 Speaker 02 Five, is it five Pattinsons this year?
16:04 Sean Fennessey? I believe so. And it'll be the drama, the Odyssey, Dune Part III, Primetime, and Here Comes the Flood. Quite a year from the guy.
16:14 Speaker 02 That's my guy.
16:14 Sean Fennessey? Quite a year from the guy. So threshold check in sequel, I've got one.
16:19 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
16:21 Sean Fennessey? Which was Toy Story 5. Amanda's got two, so you're capped out.
16:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yep.
16:25 Sean Fennessey? Chris has got two, you're capped out. Now, you took Dune Part III and The Mandalorian and Grogu, both of which are going to cross the $100 million threshold. So you, wise choices on your part. If Dune Part III doesn't cross $100 million domestically, we've got big problems.
16:41 Sean Fennessey? CR, you've got Cliff Booth and Devil Wears Prada 2. Now Devil Wears Prada 2, huge hit.
16:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
16:47 Sean Fennessey? Cliff Booth, gonna be tough to get to 100, gonna be real tough.
16:49 Speaker 02 So Disclosure Day is currently at, I believe, $94.8 million domestic box office. And I would like to say this.
16:56 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
16:57 Speaker 02 I personally guarantee it's $100 million.
17:01 Speaker 02 If no one goes to see Disclosure Day for the rest of its theatrical run, I will guarantee it. That will wipe me out. I am assuring you that that will wipe me out.
17:10 Sean Fennessey? You're total w- But I don't understa- So are you gonna go to a local AMC and donate $5 million on behalf of Disclosure Day? Is that something one can do?
17:18 Speaker 02 I don't know. I don't know. But like, did you know that Donald Trump could be president? Like, it's like, let's just try.
17:24 Sean Fennessey? And those are just similar acts, I would say, in terms of their life-changing consequences.
17:28 Speaker 02 I am backstopping Disclosure Day, is what I'm saying. So I am gonna be operating as if it has crossed the- It's gonna make $6 million, right?
17:36 Sean Fennessey? I believe so, yeah.
17:37 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I think so. We didn't really get into where you are on the Alien podcast. On the- Because Van signed up immediately for this.
17:46 Sean Fennessey? I don't know that he's heard it because he hasn't seen the film.
17:47 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, oh, you haven't seen the film.
17:49 Speaker 02 I should probably do that for the box office.
17:51 Amanda Dobbins? I was gonna say, so that's- Listen, that's $15. Yeah, there you go.
17:55 Speaker 02 We're getting there, Steve.
17:59 Amanda Dobbins? Sean is considering rededicating his life to the study of-
18:02 Sean Fennessey? No.
18:03 Amanda Dobbins? Of alien interactions.
18:06 Sean Fennessey? That isn't what was said.
18:06 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
18:07 Sean Fennessey? What was said was, "In the event that this was revealed to be true."
18:10 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
18:11 Sean Fennessey? Which is one of the orienting ideas of the movie. I said, "I would turn- I would transform this show into a show about aliens."
18:17 Speaker 02 The big picture.
18:18 Sean Fennessey? Yes.
18:18 Speaker 02 And what did she want to do?
18:21 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I was surprised by that. Yeah, I mean, that's always the answer. Do you think aliens like the beach? Not explored in Steven Spielberg's Disclosure Day.
18:29 Sean Fennessey? M. Night Shyamalan's aliens do not like the water.
18:31 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
18:32 Sean Fennessey? Right? We know that.
18:33 Amanda Dobbins? But that's- that's a different, you know, a race of aliens that we know.
18:38 Speaker 02 Did they get in the water and war with the worlds?
18:41 Sean Fennessey? Nah, sure, yeah, because they're out on the boat.
18:43 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah, they're out on the ferry. Yeah.
18:45 Sean Fennessey? And then the ships come up from underneath the water. That's a very upsetting scene. Very traumatizing. Uh, you're- you're avoiding Disclosure Day, why?
18:55 Speaker 02 This is just fell right in the middle of a tremendous amount of travel and a tremendous amount of television for me, and I feel really bad about it, especially like when I keep knocking out things like Sheep Detective.
19:08 Sean Fennessey? Hmm. Which is just like- Did you like that?
19:11 Speaker 02 You know what? I found it quite pleasant to watch.
19:13 Sean Fennessey? That's great.
19:13 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. It wasn't unpleasant.
19:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, those rams, they were pretty funny.
19:17 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
19:18 Speaker 02 Uh, I feel bad, but I haven't seen it. I will.
19:21 Sean Fennessey? Which ram is more powerful? The ram that rams Jasper and Jackass Best in Last?
19:25 Amanda Dobbins? I was gonna say, I'm a thousand percent team Jackass in terms of the usage of rams in cinema in 2026.
19:32 Speaker 02 Yeah.
19:32 Amanda Dobbins? With respect to Sheep Detectives, which was quite nice.
19:35 Speaker 02 Well, I guess my... So wait, do you want to do your triggers or what you did, or did you do the Maury?
19:40 Sean Fennessey? Uh, well, for the $100 million threshold, you pointed out that you've already got one and you're about to get a second. Almost certainly Disclosure Day will cross $100 million.
19:47 Speaker 02 And I really, I, given the way the winds are blowing, I think Resident Evil has a shot.
19:52 Sean Fennessey? It's absolutely possible. Amanda has already got two on her slate because she also has Prodigy Tell Mary, which was a very smart pickup. And I've got one right now, so I need to get one more. Toy Story 5 soaring right past 100 million.
20:03 Amanda Dobbins? I just did the math and you would need to see Disclosure Day 300,033 times in order to single-handedly get it over the top.
20:14 Sean Fennessey? 300,033 times?
20:16 Amanda Dobbins? It's 333333 dot.
20:19 Speaker 02 If anybody back behind the glass would like to do the math on how much time that would take?
20:26 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
20:27 Speaker 02 I would love to know.
20:28 Sean Fennessey? How many hours?
20:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:30 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
20:31 Sean Fennessey? I think it'd be long dead.
20:32 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:33 Sean Fennessey? I would guess before you could clock this, you haven't seen Disclosure Day once. You're gonna see it 25,000 times?
20:38 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:40 Sean Fennessey? I wish you luck.
20:42 Sean Fennessey? Here's the, here's the, here's the sticky wicket. None of us have unlocked the Metacritic 85 score. This is always the hardest thing to do. However-
20:52 Sean Fennessey? I'm almost certainly gonna get a hundred million dollar threshold at The Odyssey, which means we'll all have that. You guys don't have a sequel to play with, but I still have a sequel to play with, but that's actually fine, because sequels very rarely get that 85 threshold anyway. So we have a lot of open terrain here. So I think what this could be is, what are you pumped about?
21:10 Speaker 02 That's the thing, is that now that you're basically like, now we're in it for art. You know, and that's what this whole thing is about anyway.
21:17 Sean Fennessey? Many people are saying.
21:18 Speaker 02 Has anything gotten to 85 on Metacritic this year?
21:21 Sean Fennessey? Yes, but I don't know about any mainstream wide release film.
21:26 Speaker 02 Blue Heron get 85?
21:27 Sean Fennessey? I would guess it did. I would guess it did. Let's look it up right now. You guys can vamp while I look this up.
21:31 Amanda Dobbins? The other complicating thing here is that a number of the films that are more likely to make it to 85 or above were screened at the Cannes Film Festival, which means that they are ineligible for two of the three people on this draft.
21:46 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna talk through that as well.
21:47 Amanda Dobbins? You're gonna need, you're gonna, you've got some shortcuts.
21:50 Speaker 02 That's right.
21:50 Amanda Dobbins? You have to make good decisions.
21:51 Sean Fennessey? I'll give you a quick list of films that have already crossed it, and this is very helpful for you in terms of your bidding here. Once Upon a Time in Harlem is a documentary premiered at Sundance that Amanda and I saw at Cannes. Blue Heron, in fact, has a 92 right now. You know, the next film with a 92 is Ross McElwee's remake. I don't know if you're familiar with him, documentarian who famously explores his own life through these particular frameworks. And I watched this movie this weekend, and it is absolutely devastating. So I just want to recommend, when it comes out in July, that people check out Remake. It's a beautiful, really, really sad movie. Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma, we've seen that, not eligible to us.
22:31 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, but what is?
22:32 Sean Fennessey? That's sitting at 91 right now.
22:34 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, good.
22:34 Sean Fennessey? That's a little bit of a red herring, because it's not wide release, and I do think that that number on that movie, because that movie, I think, is gonna be a little more divisive, and we'll come down a bit. Fatherland, we saw it Cannes, Pawel Pawlakowski's new movie. Silent Friend, which is a movie starring Tony Lung that came out in April. Sound of Falling, which was a Cannes 2025 film. Magellan, which came out earlier this year. Pompeii, Below the Clouds. Arland, Epic, the Elvis Presley movie. Blue Film, which I've not yet seen, My Father's Shadow. And coming in at number 15.
23:04 Amanda Dobbins? The Furious.
23:05 Sean Fennessey? The Furious is sitting at 85, which I find to be fascinating.
23:11 Sean Fennessey? So 85 is a little trickier for us because Amanda and I have seen so many movies that we know are going to be critically acclaimed. For example, Fjord or Paper Tiger.
23:21 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
23:21 Sean Fennessey? Or I've seen Josephine out of Sundance. So those are all off the table for us in addition to the ones we just mentioned. How do you feel about? How much, how much attention do you pay to festival chatter? Cause this is the first year really ever where Amanda and I get to be like, well, we saw the Cannes movies.
23:36 Speaker 02 That man, it's bad for the auction. It's, it's probably good for me and I do pay attention to it because I think it's, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of fascinated by like what's in it for the movies at this point because it just feels like, I don't know if those festivals necessarily are making an impact outside of their bubble, but it does feel like if things go bad, it starts a moment, a snowball rolling downhill of Joker's a turkey.
24:04 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
24:04 Speaker 02 This is, this is, you know, so it's, it feels like I, to Amanda's point about Cliff Booth's not going to be at Venice. I don't know if it's going to be in New York or whatever, but like, why bother? You know, like, why not just be like?
24:15 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. One battle left for another and cinders skipped festivals altogether and that certainly didn't hurt them in the Oscar race.
24:20 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. I was thinking last night as a, and this is a completely self-serving proposal, but like, maybe they should think about it. Someone should buy artificial and take it to Venice.
24:31 Sean Fennessey? Why?
24:32 Amanda Dobbins? Why? Because all they have on their side now is noise and this is not what you wanted to see and like, and they have movie stars and they have a big premiere and this like, oh.
24:42 Speaker 02 I love this idea. I'm unfortunately a little cash poor.
24:46 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, you're cashed out.
24:47 Speaker 02 I have a note against my holdings.
24:49 Sean Fennessey? You're down 5.2 million unfortunately, so you can't chip in on this.
24:53 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
24:54 Sean Fennessey? Now, let's, let's try to unpack a little bit.
24:56 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
24:57 Sean Fennessey? Cause you would like to see the film.
24:59 Amanda Dobbins? I would like to see the film.
25:01 Sean Fennessey? On, on the Lido.
25:02 Amanda Dobbins? Yes. Well, I'd like to see the film. I'm a, I'm a fan of the work of Luca Guadagnino and also Free Speech and.
25:09 Speaker 02 Will you be as, as passionate about Jonah Hill's Cut Off being released?
25:14 Sean Fennessey? Good point. Where's that film?
25:15 Amanda Dobbins? Sure. I would like to see that also.
25:17 Speaker 02 Okay. Just making sure.
25:19 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
25:19 Speaker 02 Both sides.
25:20 Sean Fennessey? How many of your pods are considered unreleased?
25:25 Speaker 02 Just one, just one, one episode has never made it off, off the computer.
25:30 Sean Fennessey? I was on that one too.
25:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:32 Sean Fennessey? We shan't speak of it again.
25:33 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
25:33 Sean Fennessey? Uh, that's a little lore drop for you with no lore.
25:37 Amanda Dobbins? Mm hmm.
25:38 Sean Fennessey? Okay, so you want to see it in Venice or you want to see it in general, but Venice would be nice.
25:41 Amanda Dobbins? I feel like it's a good launch pad, like Luca makes it, you know, it's, it's a home base for him.
25:46 Speaker 02 Someone should do something like that.
25:47 Sean Fennessey? Italy's own, but, but let's just play it out. Let's say for the sake of this conversation.
25:52 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
25:52 Sean Fennessey? That the film is not strong and not received well critically.
25:55 Amanda Dobbins? Right.
25:56 Sean Fennessey? And a distributor has paid $30 million or $50 million to take the movie off of Amazon's hands. And then the movie does very poorly at the festival. Is that, is that, to Chris's point, is that dramatically worse for it? Cause that it really, I think it wounded after the hunt. It getting a very poor reception in Venice last year.
26:15 Amanda Dobbins? I do think that's true, though I think it also, but like, they knew ahead of time, like that it was not in competition, which is then you just shouldn't be going, you shouldn't do it. So I guess if Venice is not willing to put it in competition, but I, I think it's a win for everybody. And I do also think that unless the critics are going to be, I think critics will probably be softer to this movie, given the history and given the fact that it got pulled because of corporate reasons rather than any artistic reasons, and would be willing to forgive it faults that maybe they were not willing to forgive. And after the hunt, also just for the record, you know, after the hunt, they just left us out in the rain for an hour in a thunderstorm, which once again, I would encourage people to not do that.
27:00 Amanda Dobbins? If you want a positive critical reception, these things do matter. And also I liked what I saw in Venice. It was when I saw the end that I maxed out. I, it, it just seems like they don't have a lot of good options and that could be a funny one. And I do think that making a spectacle and leaning into this was like canceled from you and taken from you is the only way to get it off the ground.
27:22 Sean Fennessey? Okay, I agree.
27:23 Amanda Dobbins? That's, that's just my pitch.
27:24 Sean Fennessey? But you won't be contributing to the fund.
27:26 Speaker 02 I'm just stretched thin right now.
27:29 Sean Fennessey? Understandable.
27:32 Sean Fennessey? Any other thoughts? I mean, you know, 85 is gonna be tough to hit, but you know, you know that there are some titles out there that are critically acclaimed.
27:39 Speaker 02 There's some pretty obvious layups there. And I also still will be auctioning from the heart. There's a couple of
27:48 Amanda Dobbins? That's beautiful.
27:49 Speaker 02 That no one has seen yet, that I am still a big believer in. And also, for the sake of the auction, would love to get them out in open competition.
27:55 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
27:57 Sean Fennessey? I think it's safe to say that Amanda and I will already have the two Oscar nominations locked up between The Odyssey and Project Hail Mary, and probably June Part Three as well. I'm not sure if I can say the same yet for your slate.
28:12 Speaker 02 Do you think that Emily Blunt will be nominated for Disclosure Day?
28:15 Sean Fennessey? I think it's possible.
28:17 Amanda Dobbins? I would really like for it to happen.
28:21 Sean Fennessey? I think the movie has a very mixed reception. And
28:24 Speaker 02 But she's almost universally acclaimed.
28:25 Sean Fennessey? She does not have a mixed reception.
28:26 Speaker 02 Yeah.
28:27 Sean Fennessey? But it is a June movie, and you gotta consider that Universal will probably be putting most of its energies behind The Odyssey when it comes to this sort of thing. I would encourage them to I think people, people really like Emily Blunt. It's very obvious that she is very liked within the industry. She's very liked. She has fans. She's made not very many good movies in the last 10 years, and it doesn't really matter. She's having a huge year because Devil Wears Prada 2 is also massive. I think it'd be wise to, but it's not a guarantee.
28:52 Speaker 02 She got nominated for Smashing Machine?
28:54 Sean Fennessey? She did not.
28:54 Speaker 02 She did not.
28:55 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but I do think also they'll, they can sit tight for a while, get through The Odyssey. And that's just a very classic, put her back on the trail in October or November. People love to see her. It is a really good performance. You know, and it could also, she could be in Best Actress, and Odyssey is probably gonna have only supporting actress nominations when you're thinking about it, in terms of the way they're putting things together. So there's Elaine.
29:21 Sean Fennessey? It's interesting. I mean, we're, we're, obviously, I already have the movie on my slate, but we're having this conversation before having seen The Odyssey, and hopefully we'll see it soon. But I think that dictates a lot of the thresholds and a lot of the expectations for the rest of the year.
29:33 Speaker 02 I do not anticipate Cliff Booth being an Oscar movie. I don't anticipate Resident Evil getting the weapons bump. It seems far more gory, but who knows?
29:43 Sean Fennessey? Makeup.
29:44 Speaker 02 Oh, there you go, bro.
29:45 Sean Fennessey? Makeup is in play.
29:46 Speaker 02 Uh, do they have an intimacy coordinator Oscar?
29:51 Speaker 02 I get that for Wuthering Heights.
29:53 Sean Fennessey? Do you think they did a good job?
29:55 Speaker 02 I didn't see Wuthering Heights.
29:58 Speaker 02 I just didn't. Yeah, I'm sorry.
30:01 Speaker 02 And she was like, I don't think you'd like it that much. I, I, I, I will see it by the time the, the end of the year. Yeah.
30:07 Amanda Dobbins? It's at home.
30:07 Sean Fennessey? On HBO Max.
30:08 Speaker 02 I like going to the movie theater. It's not that. It's like, yeah, but you guys, you know?
30:12 Sean Fennessey? Cause written and directed by a woman? Is that the issue?
30:15 Speaker 02 No, no.
30:16 Sean Fennessey? No? I, what if I zagged on Wuthering Heights? What if I went back to it and I found something in it that's for me?
30:23 Amanda Dobbins? That, that would be great. We welcome you with open arms.
30:26 Sean Fennessey? I'll re-watch it.
30:26 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
30:27 Sean Fennessey? Emerald Fennel, I'm, I'm trying to figure it out.
30:30 Amanda Dobbins? We know. We've heard it.
30:31 Sean Fennessey? I like, I like, I like that it exists.
30:33 Speaker 02 What is she doing next?
30:34 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
30:35 Speaker 02 Something crazy, right?
30:37 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, yes. Oh my God. What is it? Emerald Fennel, what's she doing next?
30:41 Sean Fennessey? Transformers?
30:43 Amanda Dobbins? Honestly, I would like to see you deal with that. And I feel like they would have some pretty close.
30:47 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. I mean, the Autobots and Decepticons fucking, I would be really intrigued by that.
30:51 Amanda Dobbins? Next movie. Did you find it?
30:53 Speaker 04 There were rumors of a Basic Instinct reboot, but she shot them down.
30:58 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
30:58 Speaker 04 I'm not totally sure.
30:59 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, okay.
31:00 Speaker 02 Well, whatever she does, I'm sure it'll be more received with an open mind.
31:05 Sean Fennessey? Any, any thoughts before we get into the auction?
31:07 Speaker 02 No.
31:07 Sean Fennessey? You ready to do it?
31:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
31:08 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
31:09 Sean Fennessey? Do you have any procedural thoughts about how, how we've been doing these over the last four years?
31:12 Amanda Dobbins? I honestly can't remember what, because they do, it, they've evolved and there are new kind of rules. And I didn't remember that we did the clock in January.
31:23 Speaker 02 We tried. There was a lot of like, oh, I'll bid $1 so that I can keep prattling on.
31:28 Amanda Dobbins? Well, yeah, but that's part of the fun.
31:30 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. These are always great to do when I haven't seen you over a weekend. So we haven't run through any of our stuff.
31:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
31:34 Sean Fennessey? You know what I mean?
31:35 Amanda Dobbins? No, I, I'm looking forward to that. I, I've said to you guys off mic, it was a, a weekend of extremes and I'm just, I'm glad to be back with my bros.
31:43 Sean Fennessey? Let's mix it up.
31:43 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
31:44 Sean Fennessey? Uh, how do we determine who goes first?
31:47 Speaker 04 Here we go. Shaking up the dungeons and dragons, Di. For the record, Chris Ryan would need to spend 92 years to get that Disclosure Day money.
31:55 Amanda Dobbins? You know what? That is producing. Thank you, guys.
31:58 Sean Fennessey? Well done.
31:58 Speaker 02 Should this be what starts me down my wellness journey of prolonging my life?
32:04 Amanda Dobbins? How is your wellness journey going?
32:05 Speaker 02 Fine.
32:05 Amanda Dobbins? What, but like, what are the focuses these days? This is, this is why we auction.
32:10 Speaker 04 Chris Ryan is selecting first, Sean Fennessey second, Amanda third.
32:13 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. So.
32:15 Sean Fennessey? Interesting.
32:15 Amanda Dobbins? Do you want to think about what you're doing or do you want to tell me about your macros?
32:18 Speaker 02 Uh, I'm, I'm trying to live. As healthily, but also as happily as I can.
32:24 Amanda Dobbins? That's, it's important to have balance.
32:25 Speaker 02 Um.
32:26 Amanda Dobbins? So just kind of like a blue zone diet?
32:28 Speaker 02 I think what's hard about weightlifting is you have to be consistent with it.
32:32 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
32:32 Speaker 02 And I've been traveling a lot.
32:33 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
32:34 Speaker 02 And so being consistent with my, my lifting has been difficult.
32:37 Amanda Dobbins? You don't go to the hotel gym?
32:38 Speaker 02 Well, I-
32:39 Amanda Dobbins? Do you want to come to the hotel gym with me in Toronto?
32:41 Speaker 02 Oh, God.
32:44 Speaker 02 In some ways, I think that that would give me incredible insight into who you are.
32:48 Amanda Dobbins? We could do one of the videos together.
32:50 Speaker 02 Would I- Would I be spotting you?
32:52 Amanda Dobbins? No, you would do it too. You would also do it.
32:56 Speaker 02 Like exactly what you do?
32:58 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, we would follow a video and then-
33:04 Speaker 02 You know?
33:06 Sean Fennessey? No, I'd like to see that happen.
33:09 Speaker 02 Anyway.
33:10 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
33:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's going okay.
33:12 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
33:13 Speaker 02 But like you go to Chicago for three days and you're like, I'm dying.
33:16 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
33:16 Speaker 02 It's just, you leave the little-
33:18 Amanda Dobbins? It's true.
33:19 Speaker 02 -kale cocoon here.
33:20 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
33:21 Speaker 02 And you see how the other half lives and you're like, goddamn, these people are so much happier, but-
33:25 Amanda Dobbins? I do by the way-
33:26 Sean Fennessey? They're dead at 64.
33:26 Speaker 02 I ate an entire loaf of bread. My first film that I'm going to put up for auction, and I'm doing this because I want, I want to get everybody involved.
33:35 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
33:36 Speaker 02 What?
33:36 Sean Fennessey? Such an elegant communicator.
33:38 Speaker 02 Is Tony Gilroy's Behemoth.
33:40 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
33:41 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
33:41 Speaker 02 Which does not have-
33:43 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
33:43 Speaker 02 -a date-
33:45 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
33:45 Speaker 02 -as of yet.
33:46 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
33:47 Speaker 02 But he's going to Venice, right?
33:49 Amanda Dobbins? Is it? Behemoth Venice Film Festival, let's see.
33:52 Sean Fennessey? It feels like a Telluride movie to me.
33:54 Speaker 02 I think it's going to be at festivals. This stars Pedro Pascal and Will Arnett, who both replaced at various points, Oscar Isaac and David Harbour respectively, as well as Olivia Wilde. It's about a cellist who plays in orchestras for film soundtracks, for film scores. It's Tony Gilroy's first film theatrical feature that he's directing since The Bourne Legacy, but I think also notably, obviously, Michael Clayton. It's his first work since Andor. And it feels like an incredibly personal and idiosyncratic expression of interest in the cinematic arts, but also like a guy at a crossroads. I'm really, really, really excited for it.
34:35 Speaker 02 The most notable thing to know about this is apparently nine composers worked on this film.
34:40 Sean Fennessey? I'm looking at that right now. Among them, James Newton Howard and Alan Silvestri, two of the more seasoned and accomplished composers.
34:46 Speaker 02 So, let me ask you this, Sean, as I bid- Thirty bucks for this to start with. Let me ask you this.
34:55 Amanda Dobbins? On the timer. Wow.
34:56 Speaker 02 When you get a best original score nomination, do you think having that many different people working on it makes it more complicated? Or do you think it's like a layup that this gets a non?
35:09 Amanda Dobbins? Fifty dollars.
35:11 Sean Fennessey? I think it depends on how good the movie is. I think if the movie doesn't work at all, then you won't have to consider it very much. But if it's well reviewed and you've got all of these people that are so renowned, it makes it easier and then they'll just cut that puppy into nine ways, right?
35:28 Speaker 02 I know that casting will be like a big deal when we get to this.
35:31 Sean Fennessey? Seventy dollars. This is number two on my list.
35:35 Speaker 02 So if I could see the duel of the fates here.
35:38 Sean Fennessey? Could be.
35:39 Amanda Dobbins? Seventy five.
35:41 Speaker 02 I'll do ninety. I could see this being like a nice plank for them to be like, let's, let's talk about what an amazing contribution composers have made to cinematic history and to Hollywood at the Oscars.
35:54 Amanda Dobbins? I think then you also have John Williams eligible in the same category. So and still alive. So you're going to give it to.
36:02 Speaker 02 Iron sharpens iron.
36:03 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
36:04 Sean Fennessey? That could be your second Oscar nomination.
36:05 Amanda Dobbins? What's going on in House of the Dragon?
36:09 Speaker 02 One fifteen.
36:10 Amanda Dobbins? One twenty.
36:12 Speaker 02 One thirty.
36:14 Sean Fennessey? One thirty five.
36:15 Amanda Dobbins? One forty. Do you want to come to Venice?
36:18 Speaker 02 I won't be able to come to Venice. I'm sorry.
36:20 Sean Fennessey? What are you doing? What do you got going on that week?
36:22 Speaker 02 I'm poding with you while she's gone and we're talking about Resident Evil for five straight episodes.
36:27 Amanda Dobbins? No, you're doing on the.
36:27 Sean Fennessey? I'll be a tell you, right? But you are joining me for quite a long time in August when she goes away.
36:32 Speaker 02 Will you guys let me have my own episode of the big picture?
36:35 Sean Fennessey? If you want one of those August episodes, you can take it.
36:37 Speaker 02 Straight to camera, straight to Jack.
36:39 Amanda Dobbins? What are you gonna do?
36:41 Speaker 02 Wuthering Heights. (laughing).
36:43 Sean Fennessey? 150.
36:47 Sean Fennessey? Honestly, if you want to grab an August release and you want to put your arms around it and put the CR touch on it, I would, I would be delighted.
36:54 Speaker 04 Is it the dog stars perfect? Michael Mann?
36:57 Amanda Dobbins? But I'm back for that.
36:58 Speaker 04 Oh, right, sorry.
36:59 Amanda Dobbins? And listen, that's Ridley and that's, that's my guy.
37:03 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, Jacob Elordi and Ridley.
37:05 Speaker 04 He's very tall.
37:06 Sean Fennessey? I, we're gonna have to rank every Ridley.
37:08 Amanda Dobbins? 180.
37:08 Sean Fennessey? We've never done that before.
37:09 Speaker 02 It would be fun if we ranked every Jacob Elordi performance. Did you watch any of Euphoria?
37:13 Amanda Dobbins? No.
37:14 Speaker 02 No.
37:15 Amanda Dobbins? But the important parts got to me, you know?
37:17 Sean Fennessey? Behemoth, I, I just, I'll be stunned if it's bad, stunned.
37:22 Amanda Dobbins? I know, there is like a little bit, duplicity exists, right?
37:25 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, but it's not, you know my, you know my duplicity.
37:27 Speaker 02 He's in the pocket for this.
37:28 Amanda Dobbins? Go ahead.
37:30 Sean Fennessey? That's a movie that if you do it 10 times, the nine other times it's better than what we got.
37:34 Amanda Dobbins? That's my take, we've agreed on that because they were like, what movie do you want? One of the mailbag questions was like, what movie would you redo?
37:41 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
37:42 Amanda Dobbins? And I was like, change nothing. Just try it again. I believe in you guys.
37:45 Sean Fennessey? That's your take, that's a great take.
37:47 Speaker 02 200.
37:49 Amanda Dobbins? 210.
37:51 Sean Fennessey? This is a Searchlight movie. Searchlight famously did not have a film nominated for an Academy, for Best Picture last year.
37:57 Speaker 02 230.
37:57 Sean Fennessey? It broke a 14 year streak, I believe, for the studio. They're betting big on this, but the, as you say, the movie does not have a release date. I believe production is completed.
38:05 Speaker 02 Yes, I, I saw that it screened, there was a test screening that was, received positive feedback.
38:11 Amanda Dobbins? 250.
38:12 Speaker 02 From whom's, like, where did I read that?
38:14 Sean Fennessey? No, who, who gave the positive feedback?
38:16 Speaker 02 The test screening audience.
38:17 Sean Fennessey? Was Trump there?
38:18 Speaker 02 No, I think it was like, you know, a bunch of people in Covina who got to, got to see it, yeah.
38:24 Sean Fennessey? Uh, what's the number, I got 250. 250 for Behemoth with an exclamation point. How do you feel about putting punctuation in a film title?
38:33 Speaker 02 I'm into it, I think it's cool.
38:35 Sean Fennessey? Whatever happened to Baby Jane? Question mark.
38:38 Speaker 02 Well, certainly any film that's a question deserves a question mark, right?
38:41 Sean Fennessey? Not always.
38:44 Speaker 02 I mean, maybe just closure day would have done even better if they had been like-
38:46 Sean Fennessey? How do you know? Directed by James L. Brooks does not feature a question mark.
38:49 Amanda Dobbins? Right, and that worked out.
38:51 Sean Fennessey? It's dangerous.
38:51 Speaker 02 Do you think L.A. McKay would have done better if they put an exclamation point at the end?
38:55 Sean Fennessey? L.A. McKay in Tarot Bang, you know, that would have been, that would have been something. That would have been a new move.
39:01 Amanda Dobbins? Airplane exclamation point?
39:02 Sean Fennessey? Two sixty.
39:03 Amanda Dobbins? Two seventy. Mamma Mia exclamation point.
39:06 Sean Fennessey? Oh, yeah, that's a good one.
39:07 Speaker 02 Two eighty-five.
39:09 Amanda Dobbins? Oklahoma exclamation point. That thing-
39:11 Sean Fennessey? Not a, not a good film.
39:12 Amanda Dobbins? No, a really, really boring film. That Thing You Do exclamation point.
39:16 Sean Fennessey? That's a great one.
39:16 Amanda Dobbins? Thirty years this year also. I gotta, yeah.
39:19 Sean Fennessey? Rewatchables.
39:20 Amanda Dobbins? Well, you listen, I know, you don't pitch things, you know, you don't mention it, you know, it's, you just keep your head down, you do the work, you hope that the sun shines on you.
39:29 Sean Fennessey? Next time you're around, Bill, you should just hum that Wonder song, you know, just-
39:34 Speaker 02 I'm about to win.
39:34 Sean Fennessey? The O'Nealers?
39:35 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, two ninety.
39:38 Speaker 02 Three hundred.
39:39 Amanda Dobbins? Breakin' my-
39:40 Sean Fennessey? Are we going a little crazy for Behemoth?
39:42 Amanda Dobbins? This is a Tony Gilroy podcast, okay? You guys took, you erased me from the Andor conversation because I haven't seen it yet, that's fine. But...
39:53 Amanda Dobbins? I'm sorry, I was watching tel-, I was watching movies for a movie podcast.
39:57 Speaker 02 Make time to watch all of Andor?
39:59 Amanda Dobbins? At some point, I'd really like to.
40:01 Sean Fennessey? This movie also stars Eva Victor, Matthew Lillard, and Marguerite Tleiviva. And if you know who Marguerite Tleiviva is, you know, that's a special person.
40:10 Speaker 02 Currently on Cape Fear.
40:11 Amanda Dobbins? On this podcast, we believe that Michael Clayton is an underrated legal thriller. I think I did Michael Clayton in-
40:19 Speaker 02 Did you ever have a sign like that?
40:20 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, no, but we're-
40:22 Sean Fennessey? Three fifteen.
40:23 Amanda Dobbins? Three twenty. Was it in New York where one of the live shows, I drafted Michael Clayton and then did like the, in, you know, in this house, we believe, and I guess it was New York where they don't have that many yard signs and people were like, what are you talking about? And then I had to explain to the entire crowd, so there's a thing with a yard sign and it's a meme.
40:43 Speaker 02 Is it the three twenty or three fifty?
40:45 Sean Fennessey? It's three twenty.
40:46 Speaker 02 I'll do, I'll do 335.
40:49 Sean Fennessey? If I'm able to book Tony Gilroy to appear on this podcast, do you have to be there with me?
40:54 Speaker 02 No, I mean, Tony, Tony's a-
40:55 Sean Fennessey? Would you like to be there?
40:56 Speaker 02 I think that the Ringer Podcast Network presents like so many different opportunities-
41:00 Amanda Dobbins? 340.
41:01 Speaker 02 -to express different parts of themselves, you know?
41:03 Sean Fennessey? What do you mean?
41:04 Speaker 02 So like, for instance, Taylor Sheridan went on Bill's pod last night.
41:06 Sean Fennessey? How'd that feel?
41:07 Speaker 02 That felt great. I thought that was two leaders talking about how they run organizations, you know?
41:13 Sean Fennessey? And how would you describe their leadership styles?
41:15 Speaker 02 Different.
41:18 Sean Fennessey? No other adjectives?
41:19 Speaker 02 I think that Bill is a little bit more accessible than Taylor.
41:21 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
41:22 Speaker 02 From what I can gather.
41:23 Amanda Dobbins? What's Bill's micro strategy, macro strategy these days?
41:27 Speaker 02 I think he walks in saunas-
41:28 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, that's true.
41:29 Speaker 02 And doesn't eat.
41:30 Amanda Dobbins? I do know about those.
41:31 Sean Fennessey? 350.
41:32 Amanda Dobbins? The informant exclamation point.
41:34 Sean Fennessey? That is one of my favorites.
41:35 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
41:35 Sean Fennessey? That's a great one.
41:37 Speaker 02 375.
41:39 Amanda Dobbins? 400.
41:39 Sean Fennessey? Do we think the titular behemoth is, is the man? Or is it the composition?
41:45 Speaker 02 I wonder if it's the, the thing that he is currently scoring, although I believe this goes to several different parts of his life, you know?
41:53 Sean Fennessey? Some phases-
41:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:54 Sean Fennessey? In the storytelling, as I've heard. Edited by John Gilroy's brother.
41:58 Speaker 02 Yep.
41:59 Sean Fennessey? You looking at it closely so you can try to secure this one?
42:02 Speaker 02 Well, at a certain point, it's nut cutting time, you know?
42:06 Sean Fennessey? Can you illuminate that metaphor for Amanda?
42:09 Speaker 02 I don't really-
42:09 Sean Fennessey? That she's learned more about the human body after Jackass.
42:11 Speaker 02 I, it's one of those things that's probably-
42:12 Amanda Dobbins? I have it, I have it! 32!
42:15 Speaker 02 We've been in front-
42:16 Speaker 04 I would say for the record, we touched like 45 multiple times.
42:20 Speaker 02 We touched 45 multiple times.
42:21 Amanda Dobbins? Keep it running, go!
42:22 Sean Fennessey? 410, yeah.
42:23 Amanda Dobbins? Let's go!
42:29 Speaker 02 I'll try and do nut cutting time before- It's a sports phrase-
42:32 Amanda Dobbins? 415.
42:32 Speaker 02 But it's not a sports phrase.
42:34 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
42:34 Speaker 02 So I know it because-
42:35 Amanda Dobbins? Why would you cut your nuts?
42:37 Sean Fennessey? Well put.
42:37 Speaker 02 I don't really know. It's like-
42:39 Amanda Dobbins? Is that what a, that's not what a vasectomy is, right?
42:42 Speaker 02 It is.
42:43 Amanda Dobbins? 425. But no, you're cutting the vas deferens in a vasectomy. That's like inside the nut, okay? Yeah, sorry that I know what's up.
42:51 Sean Fennessey? That's exactly right. Have you, have you, some might say you cut nuts on a regular basis. That's one of your, one of your skills.
42:57 Speaker 02 435, 435.
43:00 Amanda Dobbins? Is there such a thing as a nut tuck?
43:03 Sean Fennessey? Sure, Silence of the Lambs.
43:04 Amanda Dobbins? No, no, no, no, no, like a plastic surgery procedure, 440.
43:08 Sean Fennessey? Oh, like lifted?
43:09 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
43:09 Sean Fennessey? To avoid a bad grandpa situation?
43:11 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, to avoid a bad grandpa situation. Why are you looking at me like that?
43:13 Speaker 02 Why don't they do that?
43:15 Amanda Dobbins? Well.
43:15 Sean Fennessey? Just tighten it up?
43:16 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, maybe you don't want it hanging around. Maybe it's getting in the way.
43:19 Speaker 02 Uh, oh, I guess that's true.
43:20 Amanda Dobbins? So that's not a thing that you guys are worried about?
43:22 Sean Fennessey? It's like bringing the yo-yo back, right?
43:24 Speaker 02 Oh, like Robert Evans, probably.
43:25 Sean Fennessey? Walk the dog and then roll it up.
43:27 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
43:29 Sean Fennessey? Uh, 450.
43:33 Speaker 02 475? I was gonna say, Robert Evans seems like the kinda guy who would've gotten a nut tug.
43:37 Sean Fennessey? Get the nuts tug, yeah.
43:40 Speaker 02 May he rest in peace.
43:41 Sean Fennessey? What, what, what do you know about, uh, shaft construction?
43:46 Amanda Dobbins? It seems like very delicate skin.
43:48 Speaker 02 Penis shaft construction?
43:50 Sean Fennessey? I just said shaft construction. I wasn't, you extrapolated that out.
43:53 Speaker 02 Okay, cuz we're talking about plastic surgery on, on the genitalia.
43:56 Sean Fennessey? We are?
43:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
43:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:58 Sean Fennessey? Thought we were talking about something else.
43:59 Speaker 02 I never answered your question. It's like, when somebody performs in the clutch, it's like, hey, man, it's not cutting time. It's time for you to go.
44:05 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
44:06 Speaker 02 Um, but I, I don't think it's an appropriate phrase, and I would not use it in my personal life.
44:09 Amanda Dobbins? 490.
44:10 Sean Fennessey? Just on this podcast.
44:12 Speaker 02 500.
44:13 Amanda Dobbins? 510.
44:16 Sean Fennessey? Is this the only movie that all three of us really want?
44:18 Speaker 02 Here's the stupid part, is it like, I can back off and let you guys have it, and then I can just take a bunch of stuff for a dollar?
44:23 Amanda Dobbins? What we learned last time, stay in the mix.
44:26 Sean Fennessey? Because there are no, there's, there are no production stills, there's no trailer for this movie.
44:31 Amanda Dobbins? Hanging with me today, and I don't know why.
44:32 Speaker 02 I think their energy is throwing me off, but it's also like brilliant, like I can't, it's like, I feel like I'm getting tanned, but I don't know why.
44:41 Speaker 02 Like, you're just radiating today.
44:43 Amanda Dobbins? Normally, like, normally you're riding with me. Is it like that time change?
44:48 Speaker 02 What time change?
44:49 Amanda Dobbins? Like, we're later in the, is it cuz you're on your second podcast?
44:52 Speaker 02 Oh, no, no, no, no, I, you can't, you can't slow me down with that.
44:54 Amanda Dobbins? No, I know.
44:55 Speaker 02 I'm fine.
44:56 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
44:57 Sean Fennessey? Interesting.
44:57 Speaker 02 550.
44:59 Amanda Dobbins? 560.
45:03 Speaker 02 Did you think that we're gonna be up in the fives for Behemoth for Tony Gilroy?
45:07 Sean Fennessey? I'm really glad you started here.
45:08 Amanda Dobbins? This was good.
45:09 Sean Fennessey? You brought a good energy. It's a movie we're excited about, but I was saying, there's no production still. There's no trailer. There's no release date. There's nothing. We don't know anything about this movie.
45:16 Amanda Dobbins? That, that is what we do here on the action. We believe, you know?
45:20 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, that's fair.
45:21 Amanda Dobbins? It's a movie by Tony Gilroy about the beauty of movie music. That's your shit.
45:25 Sean Fennessey? We don't know if that's what it's about.
45:27 Amanda Dobbins? What do you think it's about?
45:28 Speaker 02 I don't know.
45:29 Amanda Dobbins? Godzilla?
45:29 Speaker 02 The cure for baldness.
45:30 Sean Fennessey? 565.
45:33 Amanda Dobbins? That's what duplicity is about!
45:34 Speaker 02 Oh, right. Okay. Sorry.
45:36 Sean Fennessey? Great idea. Great idea.
45:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
45:39 Speaker 02 I was like, I took that personally.
45:43 Sean Fennessey? Gotta go back and look at duplicity.
45:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
45:44 Sean Fennessey? That's the very powerful corporate product that the espionage is working over.
45:49 Amanda Dobbins? Can we talk about Landon Donovan's hair changes?
45:54 Speaker 02 I mean, I, I think he's going through.
45:56 Amanda Dobbins? I haven't had this conversation with you.
45:57 Speaker 02 He's going through a journey with his hair and he's documented it.
46:00 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:01 Sean Fennessey? Documented it?
46:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, he had like transplants that didn't take.
46:04 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
46:04 Speaker 02 Or plugs or something. And then this is a wig that he's wearing.
46:08 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked like, I mean, it looked like.
46:11 Speaker 02 He documented. He's like, this is a wig. I, I need to do this to feel confident.
46:16 Amanda Dobbins? That's good.
46:17 Sean Fennessey? Really?
46:18 Speaker 02 Yeah.
46:19 Sean Fennessey? Honestly, I respect it.
46:20 Amanda Dobbins? I do too.
46:21 Speaker 02 Who gives a fuck anymore?
46:22 Amanda Dobbins? 580.
46:23 Sean Fennessey? If that makes you feel better, just do it. Right?
46:26 Amanda Dobbins? Agree.
46:26 Sean Fennessey? Not hurting anybody.
46:27 Speaker 02 Yeah. I like hats.
46:28 Sean Fennessey? I'll tell you what, he scored one of the most electrifying goals of all time. So he'll always have that.
46:32 Speaker 02 Against Algeria.
46:33 Sean Fennessey? I remember it vividly. I was sitting at my desk while I was working at eMusic and everyone was pretending to work that day and they were all watching the game on their computers. And everyone collectively stood up and shouted.
46:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, these were like running out of our office.
46:44 Sean Fennessey? This is the United Nations.
46:45 Speaker 02 Klinsmann sliding out of the office.
46:47 Sean Fennessey? It was wonderful. Uh, Chris, you're...
46:49 Speaker 02 I'm gonna, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna do 590.
46:52 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. Stay in it.
46:53 Speaker 02 I'm, I'm in it. I'm in it. Emotionally, I'm in it. I just, this is between the two of you economically. I could honestly go up to 995 and then I can get a bunch of movies that you guys have already seen for like a dollar.
47:04 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
47:05 Speaker 02 But that seems...
47:06 Sean Fennessey? You gotta get, that, yeah.
47:08 Amanda Dobbins? You could do that.
47:09 Sean Fennessey? You could do that. You could do that. So maybe we should make you do that.
47:12 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm. You can make me do it.
47:15 Sean Fennessey? I'll go to 595. Again, as I said, this is...
47:18 Amanda Dobbins? I'll go at 600.
47:20 Sean Fennessey? 600.
47:21 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
47:21 Speaker 02 What do you, what, so what trigger do you think this is gonna cross?
47:26 Amanda Dobbins? Personal happiness, which, you know, is sort of...
47:29 Speaker 02 It's still the only one that matters.
47:30 Amanda Dobbins? I was excited about Project Hail Mary and I liked it. I'm looking forward to Dune Part Three, but like I said, like my, my self-respect when I look at this, not, I, I wasn't painting entirely my picture.
47:42 Sean Fennessey? You want to love your slate. Yeah, you want to love your slate. I know, I know what you mean.
47:45 Amanda Dobbins? Six fifteen.
47:46 Sean Fennessey? My slate is a mess right now.
47:48 Speaker 02 Pedro Pascal.
47:49 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
47:51 Sean Fennessey? I have some questions.
47:51 Speaker 02 Leading man?
47:52 Sean Fennessey? I have some questions. Fantastic Four, The First Steps was not it. That was not it.
47:57 Speaker 02 He will be in Doomsday.
47:58 Amanda Dobbins? Was that his fault? Because that character is just like, I'm too smart to live.
48:03 Sean Fennessey? I think there's an opportunity for a great Reed Richards and he's miscast. I think he's very, very miscast.
48:07 Amanda Dobbins? And also, he's one of, he's the last girl.
48:10 Speaker 02 And he's the smartest guy in the world.
48:11 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but it's like, I'm too smart for my own, I, like, I can't. If you're so smart, figure out how to manage it.
48:17 Sean Fennessey? I relate to Reed Richards.
48:18 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
48:19 Speaker 02 I bet you do.
48:19 Sean Fennessey? Um, I, it's just the burden of, of greatness, wouldn't you say?
48:24 Speaker 02 Who just got this for six fifteen as we approach forty seconds?
48:28 Sean Fennessey? No one did.
48:28 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
48:29 Sean Fennessey? Six twenty.
48:34 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, six twenty-five?
48:37 Sean Fennessey? I think Amanda really wants it, so what are you gonna do with that?
48:39 Speaker 02 Six fifty, best and final.
48:41 Amanda Dobbins? Six fifty-five, we've done this before.
48:45 Sean Fennessey? It's too early to do best and final, my man.
48:47 Amanda Dobbins? We're not.
48:47 Sean Fennessey? At six fifty, that's nothing, that's peanuts.
48:50 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
48:51 Speaker 02 For Behemoth? It's gonna probably get like an eighty Metacritic, not get nominated and make twelve million dollars.
48:58 Sean Fennessey? Uh-huh. But there'll be lawn signs strewn throughout Los Angeles.
49:02 Amanda Dobbins? Do you know how many selfies I'm gonna take outside the premiere and send to you like, "It's me, I'm the leader." So that's great.
49:08 Speaker 02 Me and him will be podcasting about Resident Evil, bathed in blood.
49:13 Sean Fennessey? Six sixty.
49:17 Speaker 02 I'm out.
49:17 Amanda Dobbins? Six sixty-five.
49:19 Speaker 02 I'm out.
49:20 Sean Fennessey? Sure you are.
49:21 Speaker 02 I rolled the ball down the hill.
49:23 Amanda Dobbins? Remember when he was in Triple Frontier? That was great.
49:26 Sean Fennessey? Pedro?
49:26 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
49:27 Sean Fennessey? Playing the fifth lead.
49:28 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm. Well, but the magic happened. Tim Simons recently watched Triple Frontier and then had the temerity to tell me that he didn't think it was good. I don't know whether he wanted that aired on a podcast.
49:39 Speaker 02 He's a brave man and he, and he goes with his own...
49:42 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
49:42 Sean Fennessey? Netflix's Tim Simon said that?
49:44 Amanda Dobbins? I was like, did I get in trouble?
49:47 Sean Fennessey? Uh, it's at six sixty, six sixty-five. I've got it.
49:50 Amanda Dobbins? No, you don't.
49:52 Sean Fennessey? What do you mean?
49:53 Speaker 02 It would be really cool. Amanda has it.
49:54 Amanda Dobbins? Six, see the A?
49:56 Speaker 02 A is for 665.
49:57 Sean Fennessey? I didn't know that's what that was for.
49:59 Amanda Dobbins? What did you think that was for?
50:01 Sean Fennessey? 670. I don't know.
50:03 Amanda Dobbins? Can you read the A?
50:04 Sean Fennessey? I've been sending, I can read.
50:06 Amanda Dobbins? No.
50:07 Sean Fennessey? I'm able to read.
50:08 Speaker 02 He reads a line in The Witch and the Wolf.
50:09 Amanda Dobbins? Listen, I was doing it, it was more of a, it was more of a checking in on the cliff. And I say it's 675.
50:15 Sean Fennessey? Oh, you know, actually it hit me last week.
50:17 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I know.
50:18 Sean Fennessey? I'm dead serious.
50:19 Amanda Dobbins? That's why I'm asking you.
50:20 Speaker 02 You have to get your contacts changed?
50:21 Sean Fennessey? I don't know, but I, I looked down at a phone after getting out of a movie and I was like, oh no, it's over.
50:25 Speaker 02 I'll be completely honest, you know where I'm at?
50:27 Amanda Dobbins? Tell us.
50:28 Speaker 02 I have TV glasses, which are different than these glasses that I use to watch TV because I can't have my,
50:33 Sean Fennessey? Because the shit looks so bad?
50:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
50:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
50:36 Sean Fennessey? Because the TV, the TV shows, they look terrible. So you gotta put on special glasses to make them look better because they're TV because they suck.
50:41 Speaker 02 That's good. Go to some fucking stop buying DVDs if you keep talking like that, you know?
50:46 Sean Fennessey? You're only hurting yourself.
50:48 Speaker 02 Um, I have to wear different glasses to watch television.
50:50 Amanda Dobbins? I did actually get a separate prescription to wear over my contacts to help screens look better.
50:56 Speaker 02 Like glasses?
50:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but then I didn't, 685. And they're just to make, I mean, they're effectively reading glasses that go with my contacts because I have famously incredibly bad vision. But then there, I actually need different, most of the time when I'm reading, I'm not wearing my contacts, I'm wearing my glasses. So we didn't do it right. I gotta start over. But the cliff is real.
51:19 Speaker 02 A for 685.
51:20 Amanda Dobbins? So I'm, just to be clear, I'm not there yet because I'm 10 seconds. Yeah.
51:24 Sean Fennessey? I'm out.
51:25 Amanda Dobbins? You're out? Okay, well, it's, it's you and me.
51:30 Speaker 02 Seven.
51:31 Amanda Dobbins? 715.
51:32 Speaker 02 I feel, I feel like you want it more than me and I love Tony Gilroy.
51:35 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I just, come on.
51:37 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna tell Tony this when he's on the show. I'm gonna say, Chris sat here, your friend Chris Ryan sat here.
51:42 Speaker 02 Anything about what just transpired.
51:43 Sean Fennessey? Doesn't matter, I'll explain the whole thing.
51:44 Speaker 02 He read every book there is about revolution and he would be like, what you guys are doing contributes nothing.
51:49 Sean Fennessey? If I have to spend the entire 37 minutes allotted from Tony Gilroy's publicist, then I, explaining this movie auction, I will do it.
51:58 Speaker 02 And how I betrayed him?
51:59 Sean Fennessey? Yes.
51:59 Speaker 02 Okay.
51:59 Sean Fennessey? If I can get to that bottom line.
52:00 Speaker 02 Congratulations to you.
52:01 Amanda Dobbins? Thanks so much. Thank you.
52:04 Sean Fennessey? Behemoth?
52:05 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
52:06 Sean Fennessey? Sold.
52:07 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
52:07 Sean Fennessey? To Amanda Dobbins for $715.
52:09 Amanda Dobbins? We should introduce a gavel. I don't know why I didn't think of that.
52:12 Sean Fennessey? Can we get some sort of sonic effect?
52:14 Speaker 02 You should punch in, "Damn, son."
52:18 Speaker 04 I actually meant to talk to you, Chris. I need to record some stuff with you in the near future.
52:21 Speaker 02 Okay.
52:22 Speaker 04 We can get that going.
52:23 Speaker 02 Some drops.
52:23 Sean Fennessey? "Damn, son. Where'd you find Behemoth?" Uh, okay.
52:27 Speaker 02 "Damn, son, they were placed for Oscar Isaac."
52:31 Sean Fennessey? Do you think, uh, sight unseen would have been better with Isaac over Pascal?
52:36 Speaker 02 I think Tony knows best.
52:38 Sean Fennessey? Wow.
52:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
52:40 Speaker 02 However, however that worked out.
52:41 Sean Fennessey? You just bent the knee even though you wouldn't take the film.
52:43 Speaker 02 I, I've done the work, man.
52:46 Sean Fennessey? You have, you have.
52:47 Speaker 02 I've shattered from every sidewalk. Have you heard the good news about Andor?
52:53 Sean Fennessey? You have, you have. Uh, okay, who, do I put it up next or Amanda?
52:57 Speaker 04 Sean is up next.
52:59 Speaker 02 So I assume you're not gonna be nominating films that you can't bid on. That doesn't make much sense.
53:04 Sean Fennessey? No, that's, that's forbidden in this game. If you've seen the movie, you can't put the movie up for auction.
53:09 Amanda Dobbins? Nor can you bid on it?
53:12 Sean Fennessey? I guess not, because you can't win it, right? So that takes some critical Oscar films off the board, I would say.
53:18 Amanda Dobbins? It does.
53:18 Sean Fennessey? I haven't seen, actually, at this time of the year, usually, I've seen at least a couple of the bigger releases. I haven't seen any of the bigger releases this year.
53:25 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
53:25 Sean Fennessey? I'm, I'm in the dark, so no, no toe dip screenings for me on any of this stuff.
53:33 Sean Fennessey? I'll tell you what I'm really excited about is primetime.
53:37 Amanda Dobbins? Of course.
53:38 Sean Fennessey? That's what I'm gonna put up.
53:38 Speaker 02 Okay.
53:39 Sean Fennessey? Because I might need some more Oscar nominations. I'm quite curious about how this movie will be received. This is the feature fictional debut from Lance Oppenheimer, documentarian, and it is a, I guess it's a, it's a, it's a portrait of To Catch a Predator and Chris Hansen.
53:57 Speaker 02 Chris Hansen, yeah.
53:58 Sean Fennessey? Movie stars Robert Pattinson. Sounds like it'll be the coup de grace in his year.
54:03 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
54:04 Sean Fennessey? Buzz is, Best Actor awaits him, this nomination.
54:08 Speaker 02 I'd be.
54:08 Sean Fennessey? We don't know anything. We've just seen a one-minute teaser of this movie. That's it, a 24 movie coming out, I guess, in the fall.
54:13 Speaker 02 Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but can you start getting nominated for multiple films? Like, can Robert Pattinson just be nominated for like, being good this year?
54:23 Sean Fennessey? No. I think you can be nominated in the same category twice. That's what the rule is now. So, for example-
54:30 Speaker 02 Okay. And half the way- So, Robert Pattinson could get nominated for the Odyssey and the drama as supporting actor?
54:37 Sean Fennessey? Correct. That is the- that- I believe that was the rule change. You can check me on that, Amanda. But I-
54:41 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, actors may be nominated for multiple performances in the same category if those performances place in the top five votes.
54:47 Sean Fennessey? Which is something I'm not totally sure I realized couldn't happen before, but that is true now.
54:54 Speaker 02 Is it- now, does that nomination then only take one slot?
54:58 Sean Fennessey? No, takes two slots.
54:59 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, so it's like, I mean, it's like a Soderbergh directing thing. So, it used to be allowed, or it has been allowed in directing, but I guess was not allowed in acting.
55:08 Sean Fennessey? Okay. Was it- was he nominated twice for Brockovich and Traffic?
55:11 Amanda Dobbins? Traffic, yeah.
55:12 Sean Fennessey? Okay, interesting. Um, I'll- I'll bid 10 bucks for this movie. I don't know a lot about this movie. I know Lance a little bit.
55:19 Speaker 02 He's doing another voice.
55:20 Sean Fennessey? He's doing- he's doing Chris Hansen, presumably. Um, one of my favorite docs from last year was this movie Predators, which was a, uh, kind of an investigation of what To Catch a Predator was, and it'll be interesting to see how this movie stacks up to it.
55:34 Amanda Dobbins? 25.
55:36 Speaker 02 Oh.
55:37 Sean Fennessey? I'll say 35.
55:39 Speaker 02 Are you looking forward to this? Did you ever- have you ever watched To Catch a Predator?
55:42 Amanda Dobbins? I'm sure that I did at some point, uh, at an inappropriate age as a child, when like, the news- news magazines were big in our house.
55:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
55:51 Amanda Dobbins? They were always on, um, freaking me out. But I- I have not seen the documentary. I'm just- I'm an R. Pattes fan forever and ever. Phoebe Bridgers is acting in this film?
56:02 Sean Fennessey? Is that a fact?
56:02 Amanda Dobbins? According to the Wikipedia page.
56:04 Speaker 02 Damn, Phoebe.
56:07 Speaker 02 Is she- Merritt Weaver's in this?
56:09 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
56:09 Speaker 02 Skylar Gazondo is in this.
56:11 Amanda Dobbins? That's true.
56:11 Sean Fennessey? Big fan. Jimmy Olsen.
56:13 Amanda Dobbins? Just says that, yeah, Phoebe Bridgers. Okay, I mean-
56:18 Sean Fennessey? You know, let me have it for 35 bucks.
56:20 Speaker 02 50 dollars.
56:24 Speaker 04 Sperm World, Sperm World, also an incredible movie.
56:27 Speaker 02 What's Sperm World?
56:28 Sean Fennessey? It's Lance, one of Lance's documentaries. All of Lance Oppenheimer's documentaries are worth your time.
56:33 Speaker 02 I thought you were still talking about, uh, testicle plastic surgery.
56:38 Speaker 04 Left it vague on purpose.
56:40 Speaker 02 Uh, sixty-five.
56:43 Sean Fennessey? There's part of me that thinks this is gonna be a telluride, and there's part of me that thinks this is going into that Marty, we're not even announcing it for New York Film Festival.
56:51 Speaker 02 Surprise me.
56:52 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
56:53 Speaker 02 Eight twenty-four now has that spot, you think?
56:57 Sean Fennessey? I think so.
56:58 Speaker 02 What else do they have coming out in the fall that could be dividing their attention, right? Not much. No, there are Oscar jams?
57:08 Sean Fennessey? I don't believe so.
57:09 Speaker 02 Just taking all that, getting ready for Elden Ring.
57:12 Sean Fennessey? You know when Elden Ring is dated for?
57:15 Speaker 02 It better be November seventeenth, twenty twenty-seven.
57:18 Sean Fennessey? It's March third, twenty twenty-eight.
57:20 Speaker 02 Imagine if I turned fifty and fucking Elden Ring dropped? If we just saw it three hundred thousand times?
57:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
57:26 Sean Fennessey? I'll do seventy-five. Um, have you played Elden Ring?
57:31 Speaker 02 No. But I have watched dudes play it.
57:34 Amanda Dobbins? Say more, go ahead.
57:35 Speaker 02 On video, on Instagram.
57:37 Amanda Dobbins? Well, okay, so it's being served to you?
57:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
57:41 Amanda Dobbins? As a livestream, like a edited down livestream?
57:44 Speaker 02 It's funny people playing Elden Ring and being like, holy shit, like, you know.
57:49 Sean Fennessey? Damn, son. Um, I misspoke about eight twenty-four. You got two movies that they may be spending some time on. One is Club Kid, if they picked up.
57:56 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
57:56 Sean Fennessey? I can, which is also not eligible to us right now.
57:58 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
57:59 Sean Fennessey? And also, the debut, Jesse Eisenberg's musical.
58:02 Speaker 02 No Backstreet Drive Me.
58:04 Amanda Dobbins? Sorry that I'm trying to fucking help you.
58:06 Sean Fennessey? I wonder if Chris will like Club Kid.
58:07 Amanda Dobbins? What happened here?
58:08 Speaker 02 I like Club Kid. I am a club kid.
58:10 Sean Fennessey? Are you?
58:11 Amanda Dobbins? Well.
58:11 Speaker 02 In a way.
58:11 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
58:12 Speaker 02 I've been in the clubs.
58:13 Sean Fennessey? In these clubs in this film?
58:15 Speaker 02 Was he at Limelight and shit?
58:17 Amanda Dobbins? Nope. No. It's before, it's, it starts when you left New York. Well, so you're not of that time period.
58:24 Sean Fennessey? It's like queer dance clubs in circa twenty thirteen?
58:26 Speaker 02 I think Sean is, is.
58:27 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
58:28 Sean Fennessey? I got it. I got it for seventy-five. Okay, great. I'm delighted to have this. I don't know if this is touching eighty-five, but I do think it's, it's gonna be, it's a movie I'm excited about.
58:37 Speaker 02 How come, how come the nickname a Mandalorian hasn't really stuck?
58:41 Amanda Dobbins? Because you're not.
58:44 Speaker 02 How come I haven't taught your son that yet?
58:46 Amanda Dobbins? It's a great question. He does know my name is Amanda.
58:49 Speaker 02 I know.
58:50 Amanda Dobbins? Um, I would say he's-
58:52 Sean Fennessey? Well, no, your name is Amando.
58:54 Amanda Dobbins? Amando, that's, yeah. I mean, you could do it. You can try.
58:58 Speaker 02 I think anytime you ever speak on Star Wars going forward, the bottom cryon should just be like, Amandalorian corner, yeah.
59:05 Amanda Dobbins? Hi.
59:06 Sean Fennessey? Um, what happened with that movie sucking?
59:09 Amanda Dobbins? It was real-
59:10 Sean Fennessey? Did we get to the bottom of that?
59:10 Amanda Dobbins? That's another one that you haven't seen, right?
59:12 Speaker 02 Happily.
59:13 Amanda Dobbins? Really-
59:14 Sean Fennessey? And you said you would not see it.
59:15 Speaker 02 I stuck to my guns.
59:16 Amanda Dobbins? We never talked about the like, like polite text that you sent me, like the Friday of, of Memorial Day weekend, being like, hey, just we, we changed our travel plans, so I'm sorry, I'm not gonna be able to come see Mandalorian and Grogu with your son.
59:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
59:31 Amanda Dobbins? And you knew that I was traveling and thus wasn't gonna be pissed at you. Uh, but I, you know, you left us hanging there.
59:38 Speaker 02 I'm sorry. You know, I'm not a parent. I don't know what these things mean.
59:44 Sean Fennessey? I had a conversation with Alice yesterday at dinner.
59:46 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, yeah.
59:47 Sean Fennessey? So we watched Ghostbusters over the weekend.
59:49 Speaker 02 The way you're talking, it's almost like the way you talk about when you have like a cool drink with a guy in the industry.
59:55 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
59:55 Speaker 02 I was talking with Alice about where Star Wars goes from here.
59:58 Sean Fennessey? Well, she said something really interesting to me that is something I felt when we watched that movie, the Mandalorian Grogu, because we watched Ghostbusters and she was like, that wasn't scary at all. That was so fun. And she was, she, you know, there's some scary stuff in Ghostbusters.
1:00:11 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
1:00:11 Sean Fennessey? It's, it's, it's mostly comic, but I don't know, the dogs-
1:00:16 Amanda Dobbins? The librarian.
1:00:17 Sean Fennessey? The librarian in the beginning is very scary. Um, she loves Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.
1:00:21 Speaker 02 Does she like Slimer?
1:00:22 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, of course.
1:00:23 Sean Fennessey? She, when Slimer happened, she said, that ghost is my favorite.
1:00:26 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, same.
1:00:26 Sean Fennessey? Which is, you know, we all agree about Slimer. He's a wonderful guy. Uh, man or woman? Slimer? Do we know?
1:00:32 Speaker 02 I think, uh, non-binary.
1:00:33 Sean Fennessey? Non-binary, yeah.
1:00:34 Speaker 02 Primarily interested in food.
1:00:37 Sean Fennessey? Right. That's right. Not a sexual being really at all.
1:00:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:00:41 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, you don't know.
1:00:42 Sean Fennessey? Like ectoplasmic.
1:00:43 Amanda Dobbins? Myself, don't exclude Slimer, you know?
1:00:45 Sean Fennessey? From the sexual narrative?
1:00:46 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, exactly. Why are you being so sex active about Slimer?
1:00:48 Sean Fennessey? How would Slimer do if he were dropped into the film The Invite? What role would he, how would he do with the menu?
1:00:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:00:54 Speaker 04 He would slime.
1:00:54 Sean Fennessey? He would slime. So we're talking about the movie. She's, she loved it. She wants to watch Ghostbusters 2. She wants to watch more spooky movies. She knows dad, knows dad likes spooky movies, so we're talking about that.
1:01:03 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:01:04 Sean Fennessey? And Eileen is asking her, like, has a movie ever scared you or there's ever a time when you were- Upset watching a movie because she's really been begging for jaws and we're trying to figure out what is the limit of something. And she was like Mandalorian Grogu. That was the time when I was most scared because there was the most violent stuff happening, the most fighting and the most, and that was the thing back. And I felt that watching the movie. I was like, this movie is really chaotic and intense and not kid friendly, even though it's marketed directly at kids. And we talked about it a little bit on our episode.
1:01:36 Amanda Dobbins? I was very nervous when we saw the early footage because I was like, my four-year-old knows about this movie and this seems like really, you know, just way too many blasters and or guns and, you know, yucky. And he was just so, you know, smooth brained about the experience that it turned out to be okay. I don't think he remembers anything of it, which is depressing in its own way.
1:01:59 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:01:59 Amanda Dobbins? But yeah, I, I found it pretty gnarly.
1:02:01 Speaker 02 I did ask him what his favorite Star Wars film was and he said Mandalorian.
1:02:05 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, okay.
1:02:05 Speaker 02 Yeah, when I had him rank them recently.
1:02:08 Amanda Dobbins? What was number two?
1:02:11 Speaker 02 I think it was like one of the sequels.
1:02:13 Amanda Dobbins? He, I mean, he likes Phantom Menace because he likes.
1:02:15 Speaker 02 I think it was Phantom Menace. I think also I did this with Alice and she also had like.
1:02:18 Sean Fennessey? And she was like Rise of Skywalker is elite because she loves Rey.
1:02:21 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:02:21 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:02:22 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:02:22 Sean Fennessey? It can't be trusted.
1:02:22 Speaker 02 Did you select a film yet? Not to cut off our.
1:02:24 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, no, no, no. So I'm gonna do, uh, Wild Horse Nine, 20 bucks.
1:02:29 Sean Fennessey? Hmm.
1:02:30 Amanda Dobbins? This is the new Martin McDonagh starring John Malkovich, Sam Rockwell. Um, now's your time, Chris Ryan.
1:02:37 Speaker 02 50 bucks.
1:02:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:02:38 Speaker 02 I'm eyeballing Buscemi supporting actor in this.
1:02:43 Sean Fennessey? Intriguing.
1:02:44 Speaker 02 Been a while.
1:02:44 Sean Fennessey? We want that for him.
1:02:45 Amanda Dobbins? We do.
1:02:46 Speaker 02 I have not had him in our, on our screens consistently for a long time.
1:02:50 Sean Fennessey? Love it. We just sang his praises on the domestic disturbance.
1:02:53 Speaker 02 We sure did. He saved the movie.
1:02:54 Sean Fennessey? Rewatchables episode.
1:02:54 Speaker 02 He's the best part of the movie.
1:02:55 Sean Fennessey? Where would we be without Rey?
1:02:56 Speaker 02 So, uh, this is basically in Baruch set on Easter Island with Sam Rockwell and John Malkovich as hitmen looking to upend government seemingly.
1:03:05 Amanda Dobbins? I'll do 60.
1:03:07 Speaker 02 And Stupishemi is their handler and this looks.
1:03:11 Speaker 02 Really fucking funny and a return to old school McDonough. I'll do 75.
1:03:16 Sean Fennessey? I feel like Banshee's is way underrated.
1:03:18 Amanda Dobbins? It is.
1:03:19 Sean Fennessey? And if it was not late stage COVID, it would have a different reputation.
1:03:24 Speaker 02 Was that, what was the release for that? Was that on?
1:03:26 Sean Fennessey? It was on HBO Max after like three weeks.
1:03:28 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's right.
1:03:29 Amanda Dobbins? Cause it was 2022, right?
1:03:31 Sean Fennessey? This is a real inside baseball, but I, I think I've said this to you guys in the past. I remember the performance of that episode being like really big. And I was like, that's weird. This is a small two hander set on Ireland, but it was because everybody watched it at home at the same time. And that was such a unique thing that was happening in the movie culture.
1:03:44 Amanda Dobbins? Excuse me, that's some Carrie Condon erasure.
1:03:46 Sean Fennessey? God bless her and Barry Keoghan, of course, there goes that dream.
1:03:50 Speaker 02 What's wrong with the dream?
1:03:51 Sean Fennessey? No, that's what he says in the film.
1:03:53 Speaker 02 Oh, I thought you were like, the dream of Barry Keoghan.
1:03:55 Sean Fennessey? No, that's my favorite moment.
1:03:56 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:03:56 Speaker 02 We're still writing it.
1:03:58 Sean Fennessey? He's opening, he was opening his wrist to her and he's saying, you know, could we ever?
1:04:01 Speaker 02 I don't quite understand what's going on. I know he's playing Ringo and he seems like a lovely guy. I don't know what happened where he played Tommy Shelby's son.
1:04:10 Sean Fennessey? Ninety bucks. I'm interested in this movie.
1:04:11 Speaker 02 In a movie and now is not doing it going forward.
1:04:15 Sean Fennessey? Who?
1:04:15 Speaker 02 Barry Keoghan, played Tommy Shelby and Peaky Blunder's son in the movie.
1:04:18 Amanda Dobbins? We saw that. Sean and I both saw it.
1:04:20 Speaker 02 But now there's another show that's gonna, I think Jamie Bell is taking over the part.
1:04:25 Sean Fennessey? Oh.
1:04:25 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, it's just like a recasting?
1:04:27 Speaker 02 It just feels like very much like he is not.
1:04:29 Amanda Dobbins? In Paddington 3?
1:04:30 Speaker 02 In Batman 2.
1:04:31 Sean Fennessey? I don't think he is.
1:04:32 Speaker 02 Well, that's just, that's tough. Could have been Tommy Shelby and Batman Joker and you're not?
1:04:36 Sean Fennessey? I'll be honest, I didn't really appreciate what he was doing in Crime 101 either.
1:04:39 Speaker 02 Oh, I did.
1:04:40 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. Well, he didn't have much to do.
1:04:42 Speaker 02 I thought he was.
1:04:43 Sean Fennessey? I thought he was doing way too much.
1:04:44 Speaker 02 Operating on a different wavelength from everybody.
1:04:46 Sean Fennessey? I think he needed to settle down a little bit.
1:04:48 Amanda Dobbins? Are you gonna let him have this?
1:04:49 Speaker 02 No, $110.
1:04:51 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:04:54 Speaker 02 He distracted me.
1:04:54 Sean Fennessey? McDonough? I love him. I love his work. I have such an uncomplicated relationship with his work. I think he is truly one of the great writers.
1:05:02 Speaker 02 Billboard's? Billboard's time to revisit?
1:05:04 Sean Fennessey? I'm a big fan. I'm, I really think it's good and I think it's, I think what it's accused of is a misunderstanding of the movie. And I know a lot of people disagree.
1:05:12 Amanda Dobbins? The Frances McDormand performance is great.
1:05:15 Sean Fennessey? I would encourage people to revisit the movie.
1:05:16 Speaker 02 She kicks that guy in the cock. Yeah, it's really funny.
1:05:18 Sean Fennessey? It would, it, it fell a little bit victim to the moment.
1:05:21 Speaker 02 I also really like Seven Psychopaths.
1:05:23 Sean Fennessey? I do too. So I've heard that this movie is more like Seven Psychopaths than it is like Banshees.
1:05:28 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:05:28 Sean Fennessey? That it is a little bit more of a hyper violent, absurdist comedy than it is a sort of mournful treatise on relationships and friendship.
1:05:37 Speaker 02 Like Rouge or...
1:05:38 Amanda Dobbins? They're, they're moving the cursor around the clock in a way that suggests to me that they want you to know.
1:05:44 Sean Fennessey? You guys have microphones.
1:05:45 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:05:45 Speaker 02 I have, I have this phone.
1:05:47 Speaker 04 I have this phone.
1:05:47 Amanda Dobbins? So here's, here's a great procedural, yeah, Chris has it. Here's a great procedural question. Who's man in the dock and who's man in the clock?
1:05:55 Speaker 04 The tag team effort back here. I'm on the clock. Lucas is on the dock.
1:05:59 Amanda Dobbins? That's beautiful. Okay.
1:06:00 Sean Fennessey? Clock dockers. That's, it sounds like a Martin McDonagh film.
1:06:02 Speaker 02 Army Koreans return.
1:06:04 Amanda Dobbins? So are we doing the turn? Do I have another one?
1:06:07 Speaker 02 No, I guess we could, yeah.
1:06:09 Sean Fennessey? I thought we reset. Do we not reset?
1:06:11 Speaker 04 I honestly don't remember.
1:06:12 Sean Fennessey? I think we reset. Back to the beginning.
1:06:14 Amanda Dobbins? I, I don't remember that, but I also don't care.
1:06:15 Speaker 02 You say Bitters open with a new title in snake fashion.
1:06:19 Speaker 04 There you go.
1:06:20 Sean Fennessey? Stand corrected.
1:06:20 Speaker 02 Go for it.
1:06:21 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, great.
1:06:22 Sean Fennessey? Stand corrected.
1:06:22 Speaker 02 It's International Women's Day.
1:06:23 Sean Fennessey? So we each have a title right now?
1:06:25 Amanda Dobbins? That was in March and you guys said nothing.
1:06:28 Sean Fennessey? What do you want me to say on that day?
1:06:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:06:31 Amanda Dobbins? I want you to be creative. I want you to figure, I know, I just, I want nothing to do with it. I want you to say, I went to the AI conference instead of you, which is a real thing that happened. Do you not get the, oh, so only the women got the AI Women's Month invites at Spotify?
1:06:46 Speaker 02 What are you talking about?
1:06:47 Amanda Dobbins? We like to celebrate Women's History Month, which is...
1:06:49 Speaker 02 That's the email you got?
1:06:50 Amanda Dobbins? Which is, yes, I'm not kidding. In March, it's March, right? We got like, we got invited to several like women in AI conferences, but the men don't get invited to that. Wow.
1:07:00 Sean Fennessey? Why would I be invited to that?
1:07:02 Speaker 02 I'd like to meet some women in AI.
1:07:05 Speaker 04 Trying to get like Paul Schrader.
1:07:08 Sean Fennessey? When you say that, you mean AI women?
1:07:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, like I'd like to get 90's Sharon Stone to talk to me about like the Sixers.
1:07:17 Sean Fennessey? I'm still not understanding. You're saying you want a woman who's composed of AI.
1:07:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, like an AI named Sharon, who's like chatting with me.
1:07:26 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:07:26 Speaker 02 And she's just like, what do you think we should do with Embiid?
1:07:28 Sean Fennessey? I gotta tell you, this could be done quite easily.
1:07:30 Speaker 02 I know.
1:07:31 Sean Fennessey? So what are you waiting for? You should be charting this.
1:07:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I was gonna say, why are you giving that away for free?
1:07:37 Speaker 02 I think I have a big future in AI.
1:07:39 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:07:40 Sean Fennessey? How so?
1:07:41 Speaker 02 I just think I have a lot of ideas for it.
1:07:42 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:07:43 Sean Fennessey? What are your thoughts? You declined this conference.
1:07:46 Amanda Dobbins? I declined. There were multiple conferences, just so you know, because it's a whole month. So they were offering us lots of opportunities.
1:07:53 Sean Fennessey? Is there a male voice that you would want in your life that could be generated by AI?
1:07:57 Amanda Dobbins? No, I would just, I would want it to silence the other men. You know what I mean? It's just a little bit like, I'm like, I hear enough.
1:08:04 Sean Fennessey? Right. You want Skynet for male voices.
1:08:07 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. Just thank you.
1:08:08 Speaker 02 But you wouldn't want Jacob Elordi to like, call you in the morning and be like, I had Gelson's delivering your groceries.
1:08:20 Amanda Dobbins? Um, no, I, I would, I think that that, I would feel uncomfortable.
1:08:29 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, he's only got one arm, I've got two.
1:08:31 Speaker 02 If you ever want to talk about it, just let me know.
1:08:38 Sean Fennessey? Why does he talk like Paul Hogan?
1:08:41 Speaker 02 He's Australian, right?
1:08:42 Sean Fennessey? That's not an AI. This is an AI.
1:08:47 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, he's not interested in AI. He'd rather be at the beach getting sunburned, reading a novel.
1:08:52 Sean Fennessey? Jacob.
1:08:52 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
1:08:53 Sean Fennessey? But wait until somebody backs up the Brink's truck to his house and they're like, please be our AI voice consultant. Here's 85 million dollars. Cause that keeps happening. People are just like, absolutely, I'll take it.
1:09:02 Amanda Dobbins? It's true. Sure. Yeah.
1:09:03 Sean Fennessey? I've been, I've been, I've been asking Amanda off mic.
1:09:05 Amanda Dobbins? Yes. How much money?
1:09:06 Sean Fennessey? What it would cost to sell her soul to AI.
1:09:10 Amanda Dobbins? At this point, I think it's bad brand management. I think that you, because at this point, if you're taking the money. It's then you're stuck to it. And I like, obviously.
1:09:23 Speaker 02 Stuck to AI or stuck to that price point?
1:09:25 Amanda Dobbins? No, you're stuck to AI.
1:09:26 Sean Fennessey? Good question.
1:09:27 Amanda Dobbins? And to like a specific generation of AI.
1:09:29 Sean Fennessey? This is a man who's $5 million in the hole.
1:09:32 Amanda Dobbins? That's that's turning and obviously I think the technology of like computers helping us and like computers doing math for us and whatever else they're doing with it is going to continue. But I do sort of feel I do feel that big AI is in a like kind of a bubble phase right now. And they aren't figuring everything out. And if you're stuck and some that if like if it's pets.com.
1:09:55 Speaker 02 But it didn't really matter to like Matt Damon with crypto.com, right?
1:09:59 Sean Fennessey? Didn't stick to him.
1:10:00 Amanda Dobbins? That's true. It didn't stick to him, but it did. Where's where's your girl?
1:10:04 Speaker 02 Brie Larson?
1:10:04 Amanda Dobbins? No, no, no. What's the?
1:10:06 Sean Fennessey? Is that who you think of when someone says your girl?
1:10:08 Amanda Dobbins? He was gonna propose to.
1:10:09 Speaker 02 No, I thought she did a crypto.
1:10:11 Sean Fennessey? We just got a real insight into your mind.
1:10:13 Speaker 02 Hop to a girl.
1:10:14 Amanda Dobbins? Hop to a girl.
1:10:17 Sean Fennessey? Haley Welch?
1:10:20 Sean Fennessey? That's. A lot just happened. Hold on, slow down, slow down. There's not even a film on the board right now.
1:10:28 Amanda Dobbins? I thought also I'll talk. You want me to put one on? I I will do the film that I'm mad. The only one thing that's making me mad about my vacation dates. End of Oak Street.
1:10:38 Sean Fennessey? Oh, yeah.
1:10:39 Amanda Dobbins? 15 bucks.
1:10:40 Speaker 02 That's the only reason you're mad about your vacation.
1:10:41 Amanda Dobbins? I'm not mad about my vacation. I'm gonna have a fucking amazing time. Thanks for filling in.
1:10:45 Sean Fennessey? You're missing out on that film.
1:10:46 Amanda Dobbins? But that is one that was dated after I thought those two weeks in August was were clear and.
1:10:51 Sean Fennessey? That's that's the CR special.
1:10:52 Amanda Dobbins? I would enjoy it. So, yeah, so 15 bucks and a vote street. Okay.
1:10:55 Sean Fennessey? You you suggested.
1:10:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:10:58 Sean Fennessey? Your girl to Chris Ryan and he said Brie Larson. Now, I don't know why he didn't say Phoebe Riley.
1:11:04 Speaker 02 25 bucks, 25 bucks.
1:11:07 Sean Fennessey? Is that even an actress you care about?
1:11:09 Speaker 02 No, I thought she because she's had like an interesting like.
1:11:12 Sean Fennessey? 35 bucks.
1:11:13 Speaker 02 She's dipped her toe into a lot of pools over the last 10 years or so.
1:11:16 Amanda Dobbins? 40?
1:11:17 Speaker 02 Since.
1:11:17 Sean Fennessey? You mean literally?
1:11:19 Speaker 02 No, she's like a YouTube content creator. She did like mental.
1:11:22 Amanda Dobbins? But then she stepped back, remember?
1:11:23 Sean Fennessey? $50. I'm really excited about this movie.
1:11:25 Amanda Dobbins? 55, but she like she made an announcement that she was no longer. She was taking a break from Instagram and from creating. I know because Sean sent it to me.
1:11:34 Speaker 02 So maybe you're the one who's interested in Brie Larson.
1:11:37 Sean Fennessey? Just following the industry.
1:11:38 Amanda Dobbins? If you told me, if you told me that Brie Larson was playing Hawk Tua in A Life Of, like, I would believe it.
1:11:47 Sean Fennessey? Oh.
1:11:47 Amanda Dobbins? You know, I, I, you could see it. So I am seeing.
1:11:50 Sean Fennessey? Someone says your girl, you think Brie Larson, we all think Hawk Tua. What do you think that tells you about you?
1:11:57 Speaker 02 I, that, that obviously, like, I see myself differently than the way everybody else sees me. Who would your girl be? It's your girl.
1:12:04 Amanda Dobbins? Sixty-five.
1:12:07 Sean Fennessey? I think I would be associated, probably most specifically with either Chastain or Anne Hathaway.
1:12:12 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:12:12 Sean Fennessey? Those are the two gals who I pretty consistently, I'm like, I like what they're up to. I like what they're doing. Right? Is that fair to say?
1:12:17 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's what I would go with.
1:12:19 Sean Fennessey? Probably some others on the board. You know, they're really more my age. Unlike Hawk Tua, you know, she's twenty-seven.
1:12:27 Amanda Dobbins? But Brie Larson is in the general.
1:12:28 Speaker 02 Seventy-five.
1:12:29 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. You're, you're squinting in a way that makes me nervous about your eyesight as well.
1:12:33 Speaker 02 Oh, I can't see anything. I just actually don't know what movie we're bidding on. I'm just trying to keep it going. This is a dinosaur movie?
1:12:40 Sean Fennessey? This is End of Oak Street.
1:12:40 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
1:12:41 Sean Fennessey? This is David Robert Mitchell's.
1:12:43 Amanda Dobbins? Starring his girl Anne Hathaway.
1:12:44 Speaker 02 Wonderful.
1:12:45 Amanda Dobbins? And your guy.
1:12:46 Speaker 02 Delay is a little bit troubling, although maybe they were trying to get the VFX dialed. I don't know what of our triggers it works for, for me. It's hard for me to imagine making a hundred million dollars, but I've been wrong before.
1:12:58 Sean Fennessey? I agree. It's a little bit of a risky venture, eighty-five dollars. Um, I just love the idea of this movie existing. Um, the episode that I want to do around this movie is Twilight Zone movies. I love Twilight Zone premises in movies where super high concept, extravagant, more than likely metaphorical, allegorical ideas. Maybe this isn't an allegory movie, but I suspect it is because it's from David Robert Mitchell, who made It Follows, who made, uh, Under the Silver Lake. He works with big names.
1:13:25 Speaker 02 Ninety-five.
1:13:27 Sean Fennessey? Um, Ewan McGregor, would you say you like him as a leading man now?
1:13:35 Amanda Dobbins? I think putting him on the spot.
1:13:36 Sean Fennessey? What do you think Amanda?
1:13:39 Amanda Dobbins? I'm trying to think of what he's done in the last.
1:13:40 Sean Fennessey? He was the lead.
1:13:42 Speaker 02 He did a season of Fargo where he played twins.
1:13:44 Sean Fennessey? He was good in that.
1:13:45 Speaker 02 He's really good in Trainspotting 2.
1:13:49 Speaker 02 I did not care for Obi-Wan Kenobi.
1:13:51 Sean Fennessey? Neither did I. I'll say $105. I'm stoked for this movie. I hope it's good.
1:13:59 Speaker 02 120. Any movie. Guys, gotta get some movies.
1:14:03 Sean Fennessey? This also raises
1:14:06 Sean Fennessey? the point I made on the Blank Check Jurassic Park episode, which is if you go back and you look at the history of movies, especially movies since Jurassic Park, there are very few dinosaur movies.
1:14:15 Speaker 02 I'm very curious to see if the dinosaurs in this film are drastically different than the Jurassic World Rebirth movie. Like, where are we at with, how shared is that dinosaur tech?
1:14:26 Sean Fennessey? I was watching, Alice asked to watch the Jurassic Park trailer. And we watched it and I was just marveling, just watching the trailer and being like, this is 32 years, 33 years ago.
1:14:37 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:14:38 Sean Fennessey? 130.
1:14:40 Sean Fennessey? And they still, that combination of CGI and the practical, you know, the models that they built is so good. But they've not really iterated on it that much in our dinosaur movies, right? I mean, can you name 10 dinosaur movies off the top of your head made since 1990?
1:14:58 Speaker 02 No.
1:14:59 Amanda Dobbins? That's because you guys don't remember any of the Jurassic movies besides Jurassic Park.
1:15:02 Sean Fennessey? Set those aside. Name five. Set aside to the Jurassic movies.
1:15:05 Speaker 02 Ask me a single question about Jurassic, anything about Jurassic World or Jurassic Park.
1:15:09 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, what is the current geopolitical status of the dinosaurs?
1:15:16 Sean Fennessey? 155.
1:15:17 Amanda Dobbins? In this franchise?
1:15:20 Amanda Dobbins? Where are they, where are they living? What are they doing?
1:15:22 Speaker 02 They're stateless creatures. Are they not?
1:15:24 Sean Fennessey? I think that's right. They're without nation.
1:15:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:15:29 Sean Fennessey? Without ambassadorship.
1:15:31 Speaker 02 Did Marahsula make it through that movie or no?
1:15:33 Sean Fennessey? No political asylum.
1:15:34 Speaker 02 I know.
1:15:35 Sean Fennessey? These dinosaurs. Who's looking after them?
1:15:37 Amanda Dobbins? No one.
1:15:38 Sean Fennessey? I'll tell you why.
1:15:38 Speaker 02 165.
1:15:39 Amanda Dobbins? No, that's not true. Jonathan Bailey.
1:15:41 Sean Fennessey? Something really serious.
1:15:42 Amanda Dobbins? Jonathan Bailey. Oh, okay.
1:15:43 Sean Fennessey? I can't do it here. No, it's actually like meaningful consequences in the world and I'm not gonna make a joke about it. I, Jonathan Bailey, he.
1:15:51 Amanda Dobbins? Cares about the dinosaurs.
1:15:52 Sean Fennessey? Died, right?
1:15:53 Speaker 02 No.
1:15:53 Amanda Dobbins? No.
1:15:53 Speaker 02 Marahsula dies.
1:15:54 Amanda Dobbins? No one dies.
1:15:55 Sean Fennessey? Spontaneously combusted at the end of the movie.
1:15:56 Amanda Dobbins? No one dies in the drastic world.
1:15:58 Sean Fennessey? It's part of the problem with the movie. You guys love that movie.
1:16:00 Speaker 02 Doesn't Marahsula do battle with like a dinosaur with like a flare?
1:16:03 Amanda Dobbins? Land, air and sea, you know?
1:16:04 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, he survives. He survives at the end. Real like should've killed Chewie vibes in that movie. Like we gotta bring them all back for the sequel.
1:16:10 Amanda Dobbins? Well.
1:16:11 Sean Fennessey? Will a sequel to that movie happen?
1:16:14 Speaker 04 We're at 30 seconds.
1:16:14 Sean Fennessey? 175.
1:16:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, it will.
1:16:17 Sean Fennessey? With this, with ScarJo and Marahsula and Jonathan Bailey?
1:16:19 Amanda Dobbins? ScarJo's doing 45 other franchises, so.
1:16:22 Speaker 04 Cooking, dude.
1:16:22 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:16:23 Sean Fennessey? What's next on the, on the docket for her?
1:16:25 Speaker 02 Well, Ari Aster, Batman and Exorcist.
1:16:28 Sean Fennessey? Oh, man. That's fucking awesome. She's, I'm sorry to say, she's the chosen one. That's.
1:16:32 Speaker 02 Who are you, why are you sorry to her about it?
1:16:34 Sean Fennessey? Cause she's, she's mixed, mixed on ScarJo.
1:16:37 Amanda Dobbins? I admire her and I like some of her films and sometimes I'm like, is this acting?
1:16:42 Speaker 02 It would be great if she was still, if like.
1:16:44 Amanda Dobbins? It's just one woman's opinion.
1:16:45 Speaker 02 If it was all print and Amanda just had like.
1:16:46 Sean Fennessey? That's what they said about Elizabeth Taylor.
1:16:47 Amanda Dobbins? That's true.
1:16:48 Speaker 02 Her author photo was just like, and it was like skeptical with a C about ScarJo and it's just like, one lady's opinion. It's just like, are we sure she's good?
1:16:58 Sean Fennessey? Can you let me have this one?
1:17:00 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah? No. 200.
1:17:03 Sean Fennessey? Oh, shoot. Who's had it?
1:17:07 Amanda Dobbins? I think she's good. I think sometimes she's not used the way I, you know, would.
1:17:11 Sean Fennessey? Ari Aster, Batman, Paper Tiger.
1:17:13 Speaker 02 Paper Tiger. And Exorcist.
1:17:15 Sean Fennessey? And that's.
1:17:16 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:17:16 Sean Fennessey? That's the balance. That's the balance we're looking for.
1:17:19 Speaker 02 They had a still from Exorcist today and I was like.
1:17:20 Sean Fennessey? James Gray, Ari Aster, superhero movie. And what's the other one that I'm forgetting? Exorcist. I hope that Exorcist movie is good.
1:17:27 Speaker 02 She plays Gilda Dent. Well, we don't know.
1:17:29 Amanda Dobbins? Who is Gilda Dent?
1:17:30 Speaker 02 Harvey Dent's wife.
1:17:32 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, brother. Well, what are her powers? We're at 30 seconds again.
1:17:36 Speaker 02 She's the wife of the D.
1:17:37 Amanda Dobbins? She's the wife again?
1:17:39 Speaker 02 But I think she does.
1:17:40 Amanda Dobbins? We gotta stop making Scarjo the wife.
1:17:42 Speaker 02 She does some bad stuff or some mixed stuff.
1:17:45 Sean Fennessey? The thing you don't know is that this movie is not called The Batman 2. It's called Gilded Den and it's a character piece about what happens.
1:17:51 Amanda Dobbins? If it's a remake of Gilda. But starring Scarjo, that I would be into.
1:17:55 Sean Fennessey? Is she not named after the titular Gilda from the film Gilda?
1:17:59 Amanda Dobbins? The titular Gilda?
1:17:59 Speaker 02 I don't know.
1:18:00 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:18:00 Speaker 02 I don't know.
1:18:01 Sean Fennessey? 235.
1:18:04 Speaker 04 I want to clarify something quickly. Chris, you said you need to get some movies on the board.
1:18:07 Speaker 02 I know I have one.
1:18:08 Speaker 04 Okay, I just want to make sure. Okay.
1:18:10 Speaker 02 I'm sorry.
1:18:11 Amanda Dobbins? We all have one movie. You don't have to get greedy.
1:18:14 Speaker 02 I'm out. This doesn't do anything for my triggers. I can tell.
1:18:19 Amanda Dobbins? This is, it's not fun to see him ran in like this, you know? Yeah.
1:18:23 Speaker 02 The horse?
1:18:23 Amanda Dobbins? It's like being at the zoo.
1:18:24 Sean Fennessey? We gotta start getting that lighthouse up for Pre Larson again. How do we get, how do we get back to that?
1:18:29 Speaker 02 I'm just, I'm playing, I mean, I guess like this is, this game is turning out the way you intended because you gave me rules and I'm following.
1:18:36 Sean Fennessey? Well, I liked how you played last time. Now, you probably should have spent some more money, but your, your selections were interesting. Amanda and I, we were like Dune.
1:18:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, we were being boring.
1:18:46 Sean Fennessey? Odyssey, we were, we're going big. You were being more measured.
1:18:49 Speaker 02 I was the film knower.
1:18:50 Sean Fennessey? No, that wasn't what I said.
1:18:53 Sean Fennessey? You're the game knower.
1:18:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
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1:20:09 Sean Fennessey? Uh, okay, it is your turn to put a movie up, right? Because Amanda just put up the end of books. Nope, it's Sean.
1:20:14 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, it's your turn again.
1:20:15 Sean Fennessey? Fuck, my brain is fried, guys.
1:20:17 Amanda Dobbins? You have $690 remaining. How will you spend them?
1:20:21 Sean Fennessey? These are two of my most anticipated movies, so I'm really happy with what I've gotten so far, even though I don't know if they do really anything for me. Wild Horse 9 off the board.
1:20:32 Sean Fennessey? What's another movie that we're really anticipating?
1:20:37 Sean Fennessey? Hmm.
1:20:37 Speaker 02 That you haven't seen?
1:20:39 Amanda Dobbins? There's one fun one that you could do.
1:20:41 Speaker 02 Hunger Games: Sunrise on Requiem? I'm fucking pumped for that.
1:20:46 Sean Fennessey? Okay, here's one. I got one.
1:20:47 Amanda Dobbins? Who's in?
1:20:48 Speaker 02 Jesse Plemons and Kieran Culkin.
1:20:49 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, I do like Jesse Plemons.
1:20:50 Sean Fennessey? I think that trailer's excellent.
1:20:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:20:51 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I'm Francis Lawrence.
1:20:53 Speaker 02 That first film in this reboot, or the sequels, Interminable, like-
1:20:57 Amanda Dobbins? The Rachel Zegler, like, hey, yeah, no.
1:20:59 Speaker 02 That was the longest film I've ever-
1:21:00 Sean Fennessey? The Ballad of Songs and Snakes.
1:21:02 Speaker 02 I watched that in a hotel room with my wife and we both felt like we were going back in time. Like, we were like, this is the fucking crazy longest movie we've ever seen.
1:21:10 Sean Fennessey? I like Rachel Zegler a lot. I don't know why she was asked to perform Lumineers songs for three hours. It was a really weird choice.
1:21:15 Amanda Dobbins? I also, despite the title being The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, was not prepared for the level of performance and singing.
1:21:22 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. This one does look cool.
1:21:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:21:26 Sean Fennessey? That's not what I'm putting up. I'm putting up-
1:21:31 Amanda Dobbins? Do it.
1:21:34 Sean Fennessey? What was I gonna put up? Whale fall.
1:21:35 Amanda Dobbins? Good. See, that's when...
1:21:38 Sean Fennessey? $10.
1:21:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, there we go.
1:21:40 Sean Fennessey? When she said it, I knew exactly what she meant. You know about whale fall?
1:21:42 Amanda Dobbins? You're out on this?
1:21:43 Speaker 02 $85. If you don't see, you fucking, do you know about whale fall?
1:21:48 Amanda Dobbins? Listen, listen.
1:21:49 Speaker 02 I invented whale fall. It's in the sea with Austin Abrams. They don't make whale fall without my fucking say so. I greenlit that movie. I greenlit it. I was watching Paper Towns. I was watching Austin Abrams on Euphoria.
1:22:05 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:22:06 Speaker 02 So I'm taking this one.
1:22:07 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:22:08 Speaker 02 This is your boy's movie.
1:22:09 Sean Fennessey? This film was, uh, based on a novel written by Daniel Kraus, who invented this story. And you had nothing to do with greenlighting the movie.
1:22:16 Speaker 02 It's all Melville. Let's go.
1:22:18 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:22:18 Sean Fennessey? Oh, interesting.
1:22:19 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:22:19 Sean Fennessey? Well, have you read the book?
1:22:20 Amanda Dobbins? He gets eaten in Melville?
1:22:21 Speaker 02 Moby Dick? I read Moby Dick.
1:22:24 Sean Fennessey? Did you?
1:22:25 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:22:25 Sean Fennessey? You took completion?
1:22:26 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. Okay.
1:22:31 Sean Fennessey? I'll say $100. I, first of all, just...
1:22:35 Amanda Dobbins? $110.
1:22:35 Sean Fennessey? Just this whole show putting its arms around whale fall. We can't do better.
1:22:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:22:39 Sean Fennessey? We can't do better.
1:22:40 Speaker 02 It's entirely, $150. It's entirely possible that this movie is honestly unintelligible. That it is so dark that the whale's stomach is not supporting...
1:22:49 Amanda Dobbins? I, I think that you...
1:22:51 Speaker 02 What are you gonna do if when he goes into the whale's stomach?
1:22:54 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:22:54 Speaker 02 It's all flashbacks of his trauma on the whale.
1:22:57 Amanda Dobbins? I'll be really upset. I will feel betrayed.
1:23:00 Sean Fennessey? $175.
1:23:01 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, cuz I do feel like I've put in a lot of work. There's actually, so, in my, I have a very clear mental image. And I'm like, I'm already priced out of this, so, uh, but I'm really excited for this movie. I have a really clear mental image in my mind of what it looks like inside the whale.
1:23:17 Speaker 02 Okay, you guys saw a little bit of footage.
1:23:19 Amanda Dobbins? No, what we didn't see, we have not seen this.
1:23:21 Speaker 02 Realized it drafted, nobody's...
1:23:22 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:23:22 Amanda Dobbins? We saw the footage. No, but it's not, it's not based on... I'm trying to figure out, like, what children's book? Or what illustration of, like, the, the Book of Jonah? Or wherever the Jonahs are?
1:23:34 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:23:35 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I know, but there's, but it's a very, very specific image where it's a large, it's in brown, inside the whale. And there's, uh...
1:23:45 Sean Fennessey? Sure, nothing in Pinocchio?
1:23:46 Amanda Dobbins? A small window? No, and then there's like a little stool. And then Jonah's in there.
1:23:51 Speaker 02 That is in this movie?
1:23:52 Amanda Dobbins? No, that's what I, my head.
1:23:54 Speaker 02 Oh, okay.
1:23:55 Amanda Dobbins? You know, if I were storyboarding it, it's just like a, you know, a playset and it's, it's like a little stool and it's all brown. And then he's just hanging around, but I don't actually know what happens inside the whale. Many compartments in a whale's stomach.
1:24:07 Sean Fennessey? Uh, September or October, October 9th?
1:24:10 Amanda Dobbins? I think it's October, yeah.
1:24:11 Speaker 02 Uh, what are we gonna do when we're here with tears in our eyes, talking about how Whalefall is propelling Hollywood to new heights?
1:24:19 Amanda Dobbins? We're gonna be like, we told you so.
1:24:21 Speaker 02 That we told people there's a movie where a guy gets swallowed by a whale and the people said yes? And the people said, I.
1:24:26 Sean Fennessey? I know you don't want to relive this too much, but the image of Larry David.
1:24:30 Speaker 02 We're at 30 seconds.
1:24:32 Sean Fennessey? 235, the image of Larry David in game four of the NBA finals when Josh Hart misses the layup.
1:24:38 Speaker 02 I'm done reliving this.
1:24:39 Sean Fennessey? No, I'm not. Well, no, it's a negative moment. It's a negative moment. Josh Hart misses the layup on the breakaway in the fourth quarter and there's a wide shot of Larry David in the front row and he starts to fall down. And he does the full, and he's looking for someone to brace him while he's falling.
1:24:52 Speaker 02 240.
1:24:53 Sean Fennessey? That was me when the Whalefall footage hit at CinemaCon. I was just like, I didn't know how much I needed this.
1:24:59 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:24:59 Sean Fennessey? So.
1:25:00 Amanda Dobbins? And it was during an otherwise fairly grim present, Disney presentation.
1:25:04 Sean Fennessey? Yes.
1:25:05 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, and it was before they brought RDJ.
1:25:08 Speaker 02 Who is making, who made Whalefall is now writing the Alien sequel.
1:25:11 Sean Fennessey? Very encouraging.
1:25:12 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:25:12 Sean Fennessey? Very encouraging.
1:25:13 Speaker 02 Ridley meddling, that's what they say.
1:25:15 Sean Fennessey? Ridley's meddling with the script.
1:25:16 Speaker 02 Ridley's meddling with the franchise is the word on the street, is that Fetty Alvarez.
1:25:21 Sean Fennessey? On Romulus as well.
1:25:22 Speaker 02 And then, so Fetty left and then it was gonna be the evil dead burn guy was gonna make it.
1:25:29 Amanda Dobbins? He had, uh. We're at 30 seconds again.
1:25:31 Speaker 02 260.
1:25:31 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, there we go.
1:25:33 Sean Fennessey? Uh, Sebastian Banachek?
1:25:34 Speaker 02 I give you power of attorney. If I get too deep into him.
1:25:37 Amanda Dobbins? Thank you so much. We're back.
1:25:38 Sean Fennessey? Sebastian Banachek, yeah.
1:25:39 Amanda Dobbins? Nature's healing.
1:25:40 Speaker 02 And then that fell apart and the word on the street.
1:25:45 Speaker 02 I gave her power of attorney to bid for me while I talked to you about the future of Alien.
1:25:50 Amanda Dobbins? Go over here.
1:25:51 Speaker 02 No, that's not what I meant.
1:25:53 Sean Fennessey? 265.
1:25:53 Speaker 02 I just, I, I, I'm, I'm maxed out. I don't have Claude with me. I can't, I can't talk to you about Alien and bid on this fucking movie.
1:26:01 Sean Fennessey? You mean, you don't have Bree with you?
1:26:04 Speaker 02 Sharon. I want Sharon Stone.
1:26:05 Sean Fennessey? Oh, Sharon, excuse me.
1:26:06 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:26:06 Speaker 02 Uh, 275.
1:26:08 Sean Fennessey? Do you like Sharon Stone's voice?
1:26:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:26:11 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. What's wrong with it? Why do you have against women's voices?
1:26:15 Sean Fennessey? Nothing. I'm surrounded by them.
1:26:17 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:26:17 Sean Fennessey? At all times. Uh, what?
1:26:21 Sean Fennessey? Two, two eighty. What, what, what is the voice you want to hear?
1:26:26 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, two eighty-five. No, I, I want-
1:26:27 Sean Fennessey? Emma Thompson?
1:26:29 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, that is a nice voice, but I, I don't really, I don't want to, I want silence, uh, is what I want in life. Yeah, we had a, as I said, it was a, it was an up and down weekend. It was a life lived at the extremes uh, this weekend for me and, and also for my husband. And so we were at dinner with the kids on-
1:26:49 Sean Fennessey? Mountain climbing or something?
1:26:50 Amanda Dobbins? Saturday night. No, we were just trying to live life.
1:26:54 Sean Fennessey? Two, two ninety.
1:26:56 Amanda Dobbins? Just keep your eye on it. Okay. Well, and so my four-year-old asked for some music at the dinner table on Saturday night. And Zach was just like, you know what, Knox? I need silence right now. I just, I need a minute.
1:27:08 Speaker 02 Did he say that?
1:27:09 Amanda Dobbins? He actually did. And so he didn't play music.
1:27:11 Speaker 02 I don't know if I'd have the heart to do it.
1:27:12 Amanda Dobbins? So that's where we are right now. And then thirty minutes later, I discovered wife repellent. So now there's no more silence in our house.
1:27:19 Sean Fennessey? Yep. Just MJ Lenderman up and down.
1:27:21 Amanda Dobbins? I love MJ Lenderman.
1:27:23 Sean Fennessey? Uh, no one knows what wife repellent is. That story was told off mic, so.
1:27:26 Amanda Dobbins? Sure. Wife repellent, yeah, I posted about it. The people know. Uh, I guess it was on Saturday night. Maybe you were not looking at Instagram, spending time with your family. Congratulations.
1:27:36 Sean Fennessey? Probably was.
1:27:37 Speaker 04 We're at thirty seconds.
1:27:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:27:39 Speaker 02 Common victory for me.
1:27:41 Sean Fennessey? You may take it.
1:27:42 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, thank you. That's beautiful.
1:27:43 Speaker 02 Don't really know what's, if this, if this hits, we're fucking not ready. It's gonna, a hundred million will be like light work. And if it doesn't, it's just gonna make like five million dollars.
1:27:52 Sean Fennessey? I think it's gonna be hard for it to get to a hundred million.
1:27:54 Speaker 02 Josh tomorrow is gonna be like, who the fuck greenlit this movie? You know?
1:27:58 Amanda Dobbins? And why didn't you use AI to make it?
1:28:00 Sean Fennessey? I, well, what's it going up against? That's a very busy time at the box office.
1:28:04 Amanda Dobbins? Our October is really, uh, emotionally involved.
1:28:08 Sean Fennessey? It really is. So it's actually October sixteenth is whale fall.
1:28:10 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:28:11 Sean Fennessey? That it will be coming off of the Social Reckoning Other Mommy October ninth, which is a very chaotic weekend for us.
1:28:17 Amanda Dobbins? No, but read the whole, read, start October second.
1:28:20 Sean Fennessey? Digger and Verity come out on October second. That's a lot. Colleen Hoover and Tom Cruise.
1:28:24 Speaker 02 Does Other Mommy feature farting? Did I read that correctly? The demon in Other Mommy is flatulent?
1:28:33 Amanda Dobbins? Where did you read this?
1:28:34 Sean Fennessey? No.
1:28:34 Amanda Dobbins? What are you, where are you?
1:28:36 Speaker 02 I don't know, this is late at night.
1:28:37 Amanda Dobbins? And Brie Larson spending your time.
1:28:38 Speaker 02 Let me find this.
1:28:39 Sean Fennessey? Hmm.
1:28:40 Speaker 02 Other mommy.
1:28:40 Sean Fennessey? Ask Sharon.
1:28:43 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, since you're not gonna read it, then October 9th, Social Reckoning.
1:28:48 Amanda Dobbins? Then the next episode is Fjord, then Whalefall and Sense and Sensibility.
1:28:52 Speaker 02 Other mommy flatulence.
1:28:54 Amanda Dobbins? It's very.
1:28:55 Sean Fennessey? Don't forget about Street Fighter.
1:28:56 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I was more talking about myself and obviously I will see Street Fighter and that was the, the best of the video game presentations that we saw at CinemaCon.
1:29:04 Sean Fennessey? I was thinking about maybe trying to grab it here.
1:29:06 Amanda Dobbins? Um, but that, I just, I don't really know what I'm gonna do with myself in October. I'm gonna stay strong. I'm gonna, um, you know, keep, keep seeing the sun, keep doing my exercises, mindfulness, try to keep my eye on the ball.
1:29:21 Sean Fennessey? Mindfulness is something you practice? I would find that hard to believe.
1:29:26 Amanda Dobbins? I learned.
1:29:27 Sean Fennessey? I know a little bit about mindfulness.
1:29:28 Speaker 02 I learned what mindfulness was.
1:29:29 Amanda Dobbins? I learned a lot about it. And then I was like, that seems unnecessary. I'm just gonna put everything in a box over here.
1:29:34 Sean Fennessey? You know, mindfulness is about silence.
1:29:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:29:37 Sean Fennessey? Which is obviously not a achievement.
1:29:39 Speaker 02 Is it my turn?
1:29:40 Sean Fennessey? It is.
1:29:41 Speaker 02 Cause I won Whalefall and I have, uh, whatchamacallit.
1:29:45 Speaker 02 And now we're starting to get into the like, well, I hate to do it to you guys, but.
1:29:50 Sean Fennessey? You gotta grab one of the prestige films.
1:29:52 Speaker 02 I'm, I'm gonna go for Paper Tiger.
1:29:54 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:29:54 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:29:54 Speaker 02 Cause it's a personally, it represents me personally.
1:29:56 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
1:29:57 Speaker 02 As a, an East Coast guy.
1:29:59 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:29:59 Speaker 02 Loves crime film and loves James Gray and loves Miles Teller and loves Adam Driver, loves Scarlett Johansson. Um, and I'll, I'll bid $5 for that out of respect to Paper Tiger.
1:30:10 Sean Fennessey? But. Why not just bid a hundred?
1:30:11 Speaker 02 Well, why not bid one? You guys can't bid on it, right?
1:30:14 Amanda Dobbins? That's true.
1:30:14 Sean Fennessey? Well, $5 is actually more insulting than $1. $1, somebody looks at the board and they're like, oh, he ran out of money, but there was one movie left on the board. $5 is like, no one else bid on it. I don't know.
1:30:25 Amanda Dobbins? I would encourage people.
1:30:26 Sean Fennessey? I would say bid 500.
1:30:27 Speaker 02 No, I'm gonna bid $5 and we can talk about Paper Tiger though.
1:30:31 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:30:31 Sean Fennessey? Well, it's just a terrific movie.
1:30:33 Amanda Dobbins? We loved it. We were there at the premiere. Scarlett Johansson was not, but they FaceTimed her.
1:30:37 Sean Fennessey? No.
1:30:37 Speaker 02 And they didn't pick up.
1:30:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but I mean, I, listen, time zones are very complicated.
1:30:41 Sean Fennessey? Here's what I'll say. One of the very best Adam Driver performances of all time and also the most Miles Teller has tried hard to be good in a film in about a decade.
1:30:50 Speaker 02 Like since when? When's the last time you think he did that?
1:30:55 Speaker 02 Spectacular Now?
1:30:56 Sean Fennessey? I mean, that's my favorite Miles Teller performance. Whiplash and Spectacular Now, that's an amazing, that was when I was like, oh, is this guy like John Voight or something? And he was not that ultimately.
1:31:06 Speaker 02 John Voight?
1:31:09 Sean Fennessey? This is like a really sensitive but masculine presence on screen, you know? Not, not John Voight now, not John, John Voight advising President Trump on how to save cinema.
1:31:18 Speaker 02 Is this the guy trying to reshore Hollywood production?
1:31:21 Sean Fennessey? No, John Voight from Midnight Cowboy and.
1:31:23 Speaker 02 I have Scarlett Johansson accent. Are you allowed to say that without breaking?
1:31:27 Sean Fennessey? No, it don't, it's perfectly accurate. It is exactly what people from there sound like.
1:31:32 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
1:31:32 Sean Fennessey? It, it sounds like my grandmother.
1:31:34 Speaker 02 Do you think I would like to have it voice my AI agent?
1:31:38 Sean Fennessey? I don't think, I don't think you'd enjoy that.
1:31:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:31:40 Speaker 02 My AI companion?
1:31:40 Sean Fennessey? As someone who was raised with those voices very closely.
1:31:44 Speaker 02 You know what, what I get excited by, you know?
1:31:46 Sean Fennessey? You told us, Brie Larson.
1:31:48 Speaker 02 No, I didn't mean that. I just didn't know what she was talking about.
1:31:53 Speaker 02 Yeah, five bucks. I love James Gray. It's gonna likely hit 85. I mean, it's currently at 85, right?
1:32:00 Sean Fennessey? Who knows? Who knows? It was very well reviewed by the French. The, the European critics loved it. The US critics thought it was his best in some time. The, I would say the US pundits that we knew, that we talked to at the festival, but it did not win any prizes it can.
1:32:18 Speaker 02 Right.
1:32:19 Sean Fennessey? So I don't know what that means.
1:32:21 Amanda Dobbins? Then the French newspapers were very upset about.
1:32:23 Sean Fennessey? They were. Limon said, a masterpiece.
1:32:25 Speaker 02 What did Le Keep say?
1:32:27 Sean Fennessey? Didn't catch up with that one. I also don't read French.
1:32:29 Speaker 02 Le Keep is the sports magazine.
1:32:30 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, we, we know.
1:32:32 Sean Fennessey? They said goal. What is the French word for goal?
1:32:36 Speaker 02 Goal.
1:32:37 Sean Fennessey? Is it?
1:32:37 Speaker 02 I think so. Goal is pretty universal.
1:32:40 Sean Fennessey? Really?
1:32:41 Speaker 02 I mean, there might be a French word for goal, but I think when they score, they're like, goal.
1:32:44 Sean Fennessey? Okay. Well, congrats on Paper Tiger.
1:32:48 Sean Fennessey? Damn, son, you scored a goal.
1:32:50 Speaker 02 So I get Paper Tiger.
1:32:51 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:32:52 Speaker 02 It turns out I can never tell, like, is this podcast supposed to go on for like six hours? Or are we?
1:32:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:32:58 Sean Fennessey? As you told me many moons ago, it's all one podcast.
1:33:01 Speaker 02 So now I have Wild Horse Nine and I have Paper Tiger and I have Whale Fall.
1:33:07 Sean Fennessey? Yep.
1:33:08 Amanda Dobbins? That's good.
1:33:08 Sean Fennessey? What's your ideal episode length?
1:33:12 Amanda Dobbins? For this, as a, as a host or as listening to a podcast?
1:33:15 Sean Fennessey? Well, let's do both. Good question.
1:33:17 Amanda Dobbins? I do find that something magical happens at the two hour mark.
1:33:22 Sean Fennessey? Me too.
1:33:22 Amanda Dobbins? You know, so either a focused, you know, one to 115, maybe like a focus one plus, then you have a good interview.
1:33:31 Sean Fennessey? Yep.
1:33:33 Amanda Dobbins? And, and or two hours and things can get like really frisky. I will say.
1:33:37 Sean Fennessey? This is how we've been able to do it together for so long.
1:33:39 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:33:39 Sean Fennessey? I agree with you.
1:33:41 Amanda Dobbins? But every once in a while, there are exceptions where it's, where if you and I just like have an hour and a half, but like no real structure or nothing that we have to get done, then we can get to the two hour energy at about an hour and that's also beautiful. But that's where I'm trying to go.
1:33:57 Sean Fennessey? I wonder if that's going to get easier or harder as I get older.
1:34:00 Amanda Dobbins? You mean the, the loopiness or the?
1:34:03 Sean Fennessey? Just conjuring that energy. Cause you, you know, you, you used to say like five years ago, you'd be like, you, you, you guys like to go long. You know, I'm, you like to be a more efficient.
1:34:12 Speaker 02 I'm more used to different rhythms. I mean, I, I'm more of a 55 minute to one hour and five minute guy.
1:34:18 Sean Fennessey? And then what happens at one hour and five minutes?
1:34:20 Speaker 02 Well, usually I have to come to another podcast.
1:34:23 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, sorry.
1:34:23 Speaker 02 A lot of it's scheduling.
1:34:24 Amanda Dobbins? Excuse us.
1:34:25 Sean Fennessey? So we're very busy.
1:34:26 Speaker 02 I like to be supportive of your project.
1:34:27 Sean Fennessey? After this, what show do you have to go do? Rogan?
1:34:30 Speaker 02 I know. I have to prepare for the beautiful pod.
1:34:32 Amanda Dobbins? Oh.
1:34:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:34:34 Sean Fennessey? There are many matches today.
1:34:35 Speaker 02 There are three, four, maybe.
1:34:37 Sean Fennessey? Four.
1:34:39 Speaker 02 I have to nominate another film.
1:34:41 Sean Fennessey? Please do.
1:34:42 Speaker 02 I, I don't like doing this, but I do need to shore up my Oscar campaign.
1:34:47 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:34:48 Speaker 02 And so I will be nominating Fjord.
1:34:51 Sean Fennessey? Jeez.
1:34:51 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, wow.
1:34:52 Sean Fennessey? Sheesh.
1:34:52 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:34:53 Sean Fennessey? Just two in a row that are ineligible for Amanda and I.
1:34:56 Speaker 02 I'm sorry.
1:34:57 Amanda Dobbins? It's okay.
1:34:57 Speaker 02 But I wasn't really sure if I had like great confidence, like this Oscars has yet to coalesce for me. To the extent that I pay attention to it.
1:35:04 Amanda Dobbins? I would say to.
1:35:05 Speaker 02 And I looked at.
1:35:06 Amanda Dobbins? How much are you paying?
1:35:07 Speaker 02 A dollar.
1:35:08 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, wow.
1:35:09 Speaker 02 To mirror Sean's.
1:35:10 Sean Fennessey? Shots fired at Christian Monju.
1:35:12 Speaker 02 No.
1:35:14 Sean Fennessey? The great Romanian filmmaker.
1:35:18 Sean Fennessey? This movie, I'm really curious to see what happens with this because I think it's gonna hit here and people are gonna be like masterpiece. I could be wrong. It was mixed at Cannes. It did win the Palm and the jury loved it, but it was very mixed. It was, and there was, there were pushes towards other films, Minotaur, La Bola Negra, that people preferred to this movie because it is in keeping with the kind of movie that he makes. But I loved it. And you liked it. You liked it a lot.
1:35:49 Speaker 02 I really liked it. I think they will get an Oscar nomination. They absolutely will. They'll get two, I think, at least for the performances and then Best Picture.
1:35:57 Sean Fennessey? I think so. This is a movie about a couple, a Norwegian woman and a Romanian man, who were living in Romania and moved to Norway to get a better life for their families. A Christian family who encounter some unusual progressive structures in place in Norway around their family. And it becomes a real cultural clash, literally a cultural clash. And Sebastian Stan and Renata Reinsva are both amazing in the movie.
1:36:29 Sean Fennessey? It is, it's gonna be a bit of a political time bomb, though. It's gonna reveal, I think, a lot about how people feel about this kind of thing when it is released. I guess I don't want to say more than that. I'm very curious for your take as a thoughtful consumer of political content and a maker, one of the makers of JMO.
1:36:46 Speaker 02 That's true.
1:36:46 Sean Fennessey? It's a true JMO movie.
1:36:48 Speaker 02 Good, good. I think in similar ways that we were talking about ScarJo doing the right, I think, shout out to Sebastian Stan, who seems to have gotten the same memo and is like, I did all the Marvel movies. And those two people probably will be ahead of the curve as I wonder whether or not less and less Hollywood actors are interested in going through what Millie Alcock just went through.
1:37:18 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:37:18 Speaker 02 And they're just like, is it really worth it to, if this doesn't go right, I get blamed. And if it goes well, like I'm locked into this for nine years.
1:37:28 Sean Fennessey? Elegant segue for my next nomination, which is Spider-Man: Brand New Day.
1:37:31 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:37:32 Sean Fennessey? I'll put it on the board for five bucks. I don't know if you guys care about this. Um, I don't know if it makes sense even in the auction. In the aftermath of the Supergirl thing and the way that we talked about it and that I wrote about it and all that, it doesn't change the fact that I still remain very interested in Spider-Man movies.
1:37:47 Speaker 02 Do you think this will make more money than Odyssey and Dune?
1:37:51 Sean Fennessey? In all likelihood, it should. I mean, based on what the subject matter is and how it's performed before. And Spider-Man is not really subject to the whims of Morbius and Supergirl. Spider-Man has always been successful.
1:38:03 Speaker 02 15 bucks.
1:38:06 Amanda Dobbins? Wait, what's on the board?
1:38:07 Speaker 02 Spider-Man: Brand New Day? What do you need? What do you, what do you need?
1:38:11 Amanda Dobbins? I'm sorry, I was, I was focusing on what I need and like, you know, kind of trying to plot my strategy. But no, you start talking about Spider-Man, which I like. I had a great time at the one where they pointed each other, you know?
1:38:25 Sean Fennessey? No Way Home.
1:38:26 Amanda Dobbins? Sure, that was beautiful and...
1:38:29 Sean Fennessey? New director.
1:38:30 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:38:30 Sean Fennessey? Dustin Daniel Cretton coming in, John Watts out.
1:38:33 Speaker 02 Justin Karyzki's writing.
1:38:35 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
1:38:35 Speaker 02 Doing a pass on the screenplay.
1:38:37 Amanda Dobbins? I...
1:38:37 Sean Fennessey? Tom Holland claiming control.
1:38:39 Speaker 02 Telling Zach Baron that he learned a lot from the Odyssey and that's what he, that energy he brought to Brand New Day.
1:38:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, of course. Me too. Um, I...
1:38:47 Sean Fennessey? Are you in the Odyssey?
1:38:49 Amanda Dobbins? Wouldn't that be amazing if I showed up?
1:38:51 Sean Fennessey? Are you Scylla or Caribb?
1:38:52 Speaker 02 Or is it that you constantly tell Zach Baron that you've learned a lot from the Odyssey?
1:38:56 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:38:58 Speaker 02 We're at 30 seconds.
1:38:59 Sean Fennessey? $25.
1:39:02 Sean Fennessey? Now, five years ago, if we were doing this exercise, this movie would be
1:39:05 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:39:05 Sean Fennessey? fought for. Now, we also, we have a lot of our...
1:39:08 Amanda Dobbins? Do either of you need box office?
1:39:09 Sean Fennessey? I do.
1:39:09 Speaker 02 No, I have, I could use some backup for
1:39:11 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:39:12 Speaker 02 Disclosure Day, but I was just doing this to like, keep talking.
1:39:15 Amanda Dobbins? But this is, this is a sequel, so he can't even have it.
1:39:18 Speaker 02 That's right. I shouldn't even be allowed to bid, so we should go back down to your $15.
1:39:23 Sean Fennessey? Wow, we should go back down to my $5 because I put it up.
1:39:26 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:39:26 Sean Fennessey? Do I get this for, I mean, you have to ask yourself, actually, you can't do it either because you have two sequels.
1:39:30 Amanda Dobbins? That's right.
1:39:31 Sean Fennessey? Well, that's a steal.
1:39:32 Amanda Dobbins? Congratulations.
1:39:33 Sean Fennessey? Thank you very much.
1:39:33 Speaker 02 Congratulations, Sean.
1:39:34 Amanda Dobbins? I'm gonna see this film.
1:39:35 Speaker 02 Turns out that you're doing well at the game whose rules you wrote.
1:39:42 Sean Fennessey? I would love to play a game that you create, or you create.
1:39:45 Speaker 02 I don't think you could play my games.
1:39:49 Sean Fennessey? Say more.
1:39:52 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, so I could-
1:39:54 Speaker 02 Have you ever seen a Saw movie?
1:39:59 Amanda Dobbins? So, I do have some loopholes, the way that Chris does, because I famously left Cannes early and almost missed the Palm.
1:40:07 Speaker 02 Do you only have one movie?
1:40:08 Amanda Dobbins? I only have one film, that I spent a lot of money on. And, and there are some things waiting for me, hopefully, unless you want to get in the mix. But that doesn't seem that fun to do right now, so I'm gonna have a little fun, right now, and then, if I gotta circle back, or I gotta start Googling movies coming out in 2026, I will do that. So...
1:40:30 Sean Fennessey? Okay, there's a lot of preamble.
1:40:31 Amanda Dobbins? Um, listen, I told you I was focused, that's why I wasn't listening to you talking about Spider-Man.
1:40:37 Sean Fennessey? Still ambling.
1:40:37 Amanda Dobbins? In, sorry, it's called vamping while I decide what to do.
1:40:41 Sean Fennessey? Still ambling.
1:40:42 Amanda Dobbins? For $10, I'll do Here Comes the Flood.
1:40:46 Sean Fennessey? Hmm, okay.
1:40:49 Sean Fennessey? What is the value of this film?
1:40:52 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, oh great, okay. Uh, me liking it.
1:40:56 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:40:57 Amanda Dobbins? And me having a great time, me going to the cinema and saying, yes, they still make them, they're like, well, I will, because it's rumored to be premiering in Venice.
1:41:06 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
1:41:07 Amanda Dobbins? So, I will be at the Palais, the Palazzo, in this case, excuse me. I gotta switch my internal settings from French to Italian, you know, I got another money.
1:41:16 Speaker 02 That's a really relatable.
1:41:18 Amanda Dobbins? And, I will be there, and it will be in a large screen, it's seats that are slightly too small for my liking, the Europeans keep it compact, but, you don't have to, that's fine. This is a heist film directed by Fernando Morales, written by Simon Kinberg, Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson, your girl Daisy Edgar Jones.
1:41:38 Speaker 02 Is she playing an American in this film?
1:41:39 Amanda Dobbins? Don't know, they didn't consult me on the accent work.
1:41:42 Speaker 02 I think she does a fine American accent.
1:41:44 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, this is 50, nobody wants it?
1:41:45 Speaker 02 Twister was fine.
1:41:46 Amanda Dobbins? 10 bucks?
1:41:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, Twister was fine.
1:41:48 Sean Fennessey? There were multiple Twisters.
1:41:49 Amanda Dobbins? That's fine.
1:41:49 Speaker 02 I want to keep talking about this movie, though.
1:41:51 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:41:52 Speaker 02 I agree with you completely that this is just a gobsmacking decision just to hide this away on Netflix. I feel like this is like a Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson.
1:42:03 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna keep being a brat about this publicly so that they put it in theaters. I don't unders- why make the fucking movie?
1:42:08 Speaker 02 That's great.
1:42:08 Sean Fennessey? There's no way this movie costs less than a hundred million dollars. There's zero percent chance. It's a Denzel Washington movie. So they had to buy out his quote and his back end. So this movie's expensive.
1:42:16 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, this is also, this is a movie that spans the generations at Netflix, presumably, right? And the executives?
1:42:25 Speaker 02 Oh, the Stuber to Dan Lin.
1:42:26 Sean Fennessey? I believe so. I don't know.
1:42:27 Amanda Dobbins? We aren't totally sure, but one could assume that it was greenlit and structured.
1:42:33 Sean Fennessey? In the Scott Stuber era.
1:42:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yes, in a different era than the current, we don't care about spending monies on movies.
1:42:40 Sean Fennessey? All I know is a bank situation.
1:42:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:42:45 Sean Fennessey? Always, which is always promising.
1:42:46 Amanda Dobbins? Listen, it's also, I'm just interested. I want to see it.
1:42:48 Sean Fennessey? Me too.
1:42:49 Amanda Dobbins? And I said that I would try to spend some money for myself.
1:42:52 Speaker 02 Incidentally, the-
1:42:53 Amanda Dobbins? Also, I had no movies and only 285 dollars.
1:42:57 Speaker 02 Is it Leech Stahelski is doing How to Rob a Bank?
1:43:00 Sean Fennessey? Leech, David Leech.
1:43:01 Speaker 02 That could either be, that will either be among my favorite movies of the year or among my least favorite, and there is no in-between.
1:43:08 Sean Fennessey? Interesting.
1:43:09 Speaker 02 Yeah. Cause I care a lot about TikTok and I don't want them to, you know, bastardize it as a filmmaking.
1:43:14 Sean Fennessey? That's, that's what you've got your heart in, okay.
1:43:17 Speaker 02 I just think it could be like really corny or really good.
1:43:20 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I agree with you. We, Here Comes the Flood is like a couple of other movies where there's no materials right now. We don't know when it's coming out. Maybe it's at Venice, maybe not. It feels like a very commercial place. So Venice seems like a weird place to put a movie like that. I mean, I think it's just a genre movie. It's a, it's a, it's a-
1:43:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:43:37 Sean Fennessey? Probably an elevated Denzel Washington programmer, right?
1:43:39 Speaker 02 I mean-
1:43:40 Sean Fennessey? With obviously the director, City of God and the Two Popes and Fred and Marla, super accomplished, but I don't know. I'm very excited about it.
1:43:46 Speaker 02 You think it'll be better or worse than The Rip?
1:43:48 Amanda Dobbins? I'm hoping better and that's said with love for The Rip, which I enjoyed very much.
1:43:56 Speaker 02 Not as much as Quentin Tarantino.
1:43:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, that's true. But, you know.
1:43:59 Sean Fennessey? You loved the film.
1:44:00 Speaker 02 I know.
1:44:01 Sean Fennessey? Loved it. Wrote about it in Sight and Sound magazine.
1:44:03 Speaker 02 Extensively.
1:44:03 Amanda Dobbins? Beautiful.
1:44:04 Sean Fennessey? Uh, okay. So you've got Here Comes the Flood.
1:44:07 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, and then I have another one.
1:44:08 Sean Fennessey? You have another film to put up on the board. Chris has got four movies. I've got three. You've got two.
1:44:15 Amanda Dobbins? Other mommy 10 bucks.
1:44:17 Sean Fennessey? Okay, 20 bucks.
1:44:18 Speaker 02 On IMDb it says that the other mommy is flatulent.
1:44:22 Sean Fennessey? I mean, what's more haunting than that?
1:44:24 Speaker 02 I'm just saying, it gives you an idea of the vibe of the film.
1:44:27 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
1:44:28 Sean Fennessey? 30 bucks.
1:44:28 Speaker 02 A Rob Savage movie.
1:44:30 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
1:44:31 Speaker 02 I'm a big fan, Rob Savage.
1:44:33 Sean Fennessey? I know you are. Jessica Chastain, a big fan. So Jessica Chastain ripping ass throughout the film?
1:44:38 Speaker 02 No, I think it's about like a little girl who finds a demon in her closet that farts. And it's like, she calls it other mommy.
1:44:43 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but no, no, no, that's not what it is. Also, the demon, the demon takes the corporeal form
1:44:51 Speaker 02 Other mommy 2026.
1:44:53 Amanda Dobbins? Jessica Chastain. So the demon looks just like mommy.
1:44:58 Speaker 02 Bella, an eight-year-old girl living in a home with marital problems, confronts a flatulent entity that comes out of her closet, that presence who she calls other mommy, becomes increasingly threatening to her and her family.
1:45:08 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, because 50 dollars, because it looks just like her real mommy.
1:45:13 Speaker 02 But this doesn't fart.
1:45:15 Amanda Dobbins? Well, listen, we all have bodies.
1:45:17 Speaker 02 Any of the footage you saw?
1:45:19 Sean Fennessey? Are you looking at fart.com? What are you reading?
1:45:21 Amanda Dobbins? IMDb. Look.
1:45:26 Sean Fennessey? That's interesting data, but that's not noted in the trailer.
1:45:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, there are no farts in that.
1:45:32 Sean Fennessey? You're done? You're walking away?
1:45:33 Speaker 02 I can go off the dome for the rest.
1:45:37 Speaker 02 Now that I've fucking solved the internet.
1:45:38 Sean Fennessey? 55 dollars.
1:45:39 Speaker 02 Prove to you that this demon farts.
1:45:42 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. Did you not want to leave up the photos of Brie Larson you're looking at?
1:45:49 Speaker 02 It's not cool. I don't objectify her.
1:45:52 Sean Fennessey? What, you don't?
1:45:53 Speaker 02 She's Ms. Marvel.
1:45:55 Sean Fennessey? She's Captain Marvel. You fucking pig. She's a captain.
1:46:00 Amanda Dobbins? And that wasn't even an MS dot. That was a, that was a miss.
1:46:06 Sean Fennessey? Helen Gurley Brown's Ms. Marvel.
1:46:11 Speaker 02 She actually does not. I was, I was about to spoil.
1:46:13 Speaker 04 We're at 30 seconds.
1:46:14 Sean Fennessey? 65.
1:46:15 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:46:15 Speaker 02 I'm gonna do that.
1:46:16 Amanda Dobbins? Seventy dollars?
1:46:17 Speaker 02 Spoil the bear. I was gonna say something about the bear.
1:46:19 Sean Fennessey? You know what? I'm gonna watch it. I was, I was strongly encouraged by Brian Koppelman last week. He was like, you have to watch season four.
1:46:24 Speaker 02 He's in the bear.
1:46:24 Sean Fennessey? Well, we were talking about it because of that.
1:46:26 Speaker 02 He's in season five.
1:46:27 Sean Fennessey? Season five.
1:46:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:46:28 Sean Fennessey? Season six.
1:46:28 Amanda Dobbins? I'm gonna watch it. And I'm gonna watch The Agency, too.
1:46:32 Speaker 02 Dude, The Agency rocks.
1:46:33 Amanda Dobbins? I'm quite excited.
1:46:34 Speaker 02 Yeah. I think you would actually.
1:46:36 Amanda Dobbins? I have to watch, like, I've watched literally 30 Diane Keaton films that she made after 2008, so that's gonna be an interesting week for me.
1:46:44 Speaker 02 Hall of Fame.
1:46:45 Sean Fennessey? It's gonna be a tough one.
1:46:45 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. But I signed up as tribute for The Late Face.
1:46:49 Sean Fennessey? Seventy-five. Um, the thing with Diane Keaton is
1:46:53 Amanda Dobbins? Eighty?
1:46:53 Sean Fennessey? The run of movies from 1970 through 1987, I don't know if there's ever been a stronger stretch. It's honestly extraordinary, especially 70 through 81. And then something happens in 2000 where I'm like, what are these films? Have not heard of this.
1:47:08 Speaker 02 What's the movie that changes it all, that sends it in the wrong direction? What's the turning point?
1:47:13 Sean Fennessey? Not sure if there's like a breakpoint. I think she just, you know, older women, obviously, getting typecast, not getting the opportunities that they want.
1:47:22 Speaker 02 Hate that for them.
1:47:22 Amanda Dobbins? And there's, there's a lot of like, what's the Lily Tomlin, Jane Fonda show? Grace and Frankie?
1:47:28 Sean Fennessey? Eighty-five.
1:47:29 Amanda Dobbins? Ninety. There's a lot of things that just have like a Grace and Frankie vibe to them.
1:47:33 Speaker 02 I see.
1:47:34 Amanda Dobbins? You know?
1:47:34 Sean Fennessey? Mac and Rita. What's that?
1:47:35 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:47:36 Sean Fennessey? I don't know. Movie that came out in 2022. Never heard of it until yesterday. Mac and Rita.
1:47:40 Speaker 02 Um, what's the movie we're bidding on?
1:47:43 Sean Fennessey? Other Mommy?
1:47:45 Speaker 02 Well, I did my work on this one.
1:47:46 Sean Fennessey? You don't wanna get in on this?
1:47:47 Speaker 02 I, I, I don't feel like reporters.
1:47:49 Sean Fennessey? You have 574 dollars.
1:47:51 Speaker 02 Reporters shouldn't benefit from their reporting. And I reported on this film.
1:47:54 Sean Fennessey? You read a logline on a publicly available website?
1:47:57 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah. CIA, I do that.
1:48:01 Sean Fennessey? That's exactly what it does. Uh, 95. Why not?
1:48:05 Amanda Dobbins? How much money do I have left? I have
1:48:07 Speaker 02 There's a lot of money on the board here.
1:48:08 Amanda Dobbins? Two seventy-five. A hundred dollars.
1:48:11 Sean Fennessey? I'll let you have it for a hundred dollars.
1:48:12 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, great. Thanks.
1:48:12 Sean Fennessey? I need you to have some money left over so we can keep the game going here.
1:48:14 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:48:15 Sean Fennessey? Um, okay, so you put Other Mommy up.
1:48:18 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:48:19 Sean Fennessey? That kicks it back to me.
1:48:20 Amanda Dobbins? I put Here Comes the Flood and Other Mommy.
1:48:24 Sean Fennessey? Okay. Spider-Man: Brand New Day off the board.
1:48:29 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, now it's back.
1:48:31 Sean Fennessey? I mean, what's the most desirable movie that's left on the slate right here?
1:48:35 Speaker 02 Onslaught?
1:48:39 Sean Fennessey? You know what onslaught is?
1:48:41 Amanda Dobbins? No.
1:48:42 Speaker 02 Adam Wingard's return to James Cameron-esque filmmaking with Simon Barrett. He's, you know, left behind Godzilla and King Kong. And it's Adri Arjona playing like a super soldier killer. Right?
1:48:56 Sean Fennessey? That's exactly right. I hope it's good.
1:48:58 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:48:59 Sean Fennessey? Is October coming out this year? Jeremy Sol尼亚's new film?
1:49:04 Speaker 02 I think we would have heard, and I think it would be slated for October, which would make it weird if it was just like out of nowhere, there's a Jeremy Sol尼亚 movie.
1:49:14 Sean Fennessey? There's some, there's some stuff, but I don't know if there's anything that really connects with all three of us. And those are usually the most interesting movies.
1:49:20 Speaker 02 Are you gonna pick the Taika Waititi movie?
1:49:23 Amanda Dobbins? All right, and the sun.
1:49:25 Sean Fennessey? No, it looks absolutely horrible.
1:49:26 Amanda Dobbins? There's a new Ishiguro book coming out next year.
1:49:28 Speaker 02 He fucking blacked out in the Financial Times. They asked him about like his obsession with train movies. He seems like the most delightful guy ever.
1:49:34 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:49:38 Amanda Dobbins? What's the new one called?
1:49:41 Sean Fennessey? I'm just gonna say.
1:49:43 Amanda Dobbins? Ms. Lambert Steps Aboard Danger. Look at this. Wow. An exquisite spy novel. A disarming and memorable caper in which not everything is quite as it seems.
1:49:55 Sean Fennessey? Wow. Right in your sweet spot.
1:49:58 Amanda Dobbins? March 9th, 2027.
1:49:59 Sean Fennessey? Why are you yelling?
1:50:00 Amanda Dobbins? Because I'm fucking psyched for the new Ishiguro novel. Like, I'm, I'm a hype woman, but only for literary fiction. That meets my particular interests. This is tagged literary fiction and cozy mystery.
1:50:13 Speaker 02 Damn.
1:50:14 Amanda Dobbins? Penguin Random House, get at me.
1:50:16 Sean Fennessey? Damn, son. When that mystery gets so cozy?
1:50:26 Speaker 02 Would you leave him if, would you leave Sean if it was like, Amanda, you've just done such amazing work for the modern, modern publishing. We just wanna prop you up as a literary fiction influencer? Would you abandon Sean? And you were just like, send me a galley?
1:50:42 Sean Fennessey? Why would this necessity leave me?
1:50:44 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, I was gonna say, why can't I have both?
1:50:45 Speaker 02 You could have it all.
1:50:45 Amanda Dobbins? What I am doing every day is having it all.
1:50:48 Sean Fennessey? That's right. Many people are saying, I don't know how to have it all for this, this moment. So I'm gonna put Clayface on the board.
1:50:56 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:50:56 Sean Fennessey? This is a personal project.
1:50:59 Amanda Dobbins? You think that's beautiful?
1:50:59 Sean Fennessey? James, James Watkins.
1:51:03 Sean Fennessey? I don't have to worry about that anymore because I have Spider-Man.
1:51:05 Speaker 02 I'm just asking if you think it's gonna make a hundred million dollars.
1:51:07 Sean Fennessey? I don't think Supergirl's gonna make a hundred dollars, a hundred million dollars. I'm serious.
1:51:11 Amanda Dobbins? It would be funny if Supergirl didn't make a hundred dollars.
1:51:13 Speaker 02 It would be fucked up if all the guys were like, but yes, Clayface. You know what I mean?
1:51:19 Sean Fennessey? Well, yeah, I mean.
1:51:20 Amanda Dobbins? Where's the Clayface episode? I'm looking at the schedule. Where is it? What happened?
1:51:27 Sean Fennessey? It's.
1:51:27 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, it's not till the end of October. It got moved. I was confusing it with something else. Okay.
1:51:31 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, it's October 23rd.
1:51:32 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:51:34 Sean Fennessey? It is.
1:51:37 Sean Fennessey? I've got some ideas.
1:51:38 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:51:39 Sean Fennessey? For the Clayface episode. Clayface, James Watkins adapting the DC Comics story of a Batman villain, but taking a really hard horror strain on it.
1:51:49 Speaker 02 So we've been told. Yeah.
1:51:50 Sean Fennessey? We saw the trailer.
1:51:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:51:53 Sean Fennessey? Very good trailer.
1:51:54 Amanda Dobbins? Damn, Christmas Day is the werewolf episode? And it's only me on the schedule right now. That's tough.
1:52:00 Sean Fennessey? That's the, that's the, that's the, that's the big release on Christmas Day right now.
1:52:03 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:52:04 Sean Fennessey? Unless you want to wait to cover Ebenezer, the Christmas Carol story starring Johnny Depp.
1:52:08 Amanda Dobbins? God, remember when Johnny Depp came onstage at CinemaCon? That was so dark.
1:52:12 Sean Fennessey? Arranged.
1:52:13 Amanda Dobbins? And people lost their minds.
1:52:15 Sean Fennessey? Loved it.
1:52:15 Speaker 02 Special bonus Christmas episode.
1:52:20 Speaker 02 The Rohirrim movie?
1:52:22 Sean Fennessey? The War of the Rohirrim?
1:52:23 Speaker 02 Watch, watch along?
1:52:25 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, that would be fun.
1:52:26 Sean Fennessey? I, I couldn't get through that movie. The animated Lord of the Rings movie?
1:52:30 Amanda Dobbins? I thought there was a new one that's not, is it also animated?
1:52:33 Sean Fennessey? No, you're talking about the Hunt for Gollum.
1:52:34 Speaker 02 The fucking Hunt for Gollum.
1:52:35 Amanda Dobbins? And is that coming out this year?
1:52:37 Sean Fennessey? I think it's 28.
1:52:38 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, I'm sorry.
1:52:39 Sean Fennessey? The Hunt for Gollum 28?
1:52:40 Speaker 02 And who just signed up to do that?
1:52:41 Sean Fennessey? It's directed by Andy Serkis.
1:52:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, but somebody just signed on for it. That was like.
1:52:44 Amanda Dobbins? Hunt of Gollum movie.
1:52:45 Sean Fennessey? I think it's Gollum. Gollum signed on. He's participating.
1:52:48 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, hold on. It's been delayed till December 2027. According to.
1:52:53 Speaker 02 Reddit for information?
1:52:54 Amanda Dobbins? Well, listen.
1:52:55 Speaker 04 Do you have a bitch, Sean?
1:52:56 Amanda Dobbins? I can't watch you browse. I'm nuts.
1:53:01 Amanda Dobbins? What do you want from me? What am I doing wrong?
1:53:03 Speaker 02 I don't even know what these search results are. How do you not have like instantaneously like here's the fucking.
1:53:08 Amanda Dobbins? Hunt of Gollum movie because I don't let AI do the work for me. Claude, get the fuck out, you know? Gemini? No. Bad branding.
1:53:18 Sean Fennessey? Five dollars for Clayface?
1:53:20 Speaker 02 Ten bucks. I don't really need it, but...
1:53:23 Sean Fennessey? Don't you want it?
1:53:24 Speaker 02 I do. I...
1:53:26 Sean Fennessey? You've got five hundred and seventy-five dollars remaining.
1:53:28 Speaker 02 I'll bet a hundred dollars then, for Clayface.
1:53:30 Sean Fennessey? A hundred and five dollars. Amanda's not getting involved.
1:53:32 Speaker 02 I'm gonna let you...
1:53:33 Amanda Dobbins? I'm honestly reading an Esquire roundup of what's... Everything we know about the hunt for Gollum.
1:53:41 Sean Fennessey? What's the latest?
1:53:43 Sean Fennessey? Who's hunting him?
1:53:45 Amanda Dobbins? December seventeenth, twenty twenty-seven. Okay, great. And what's happening here? What's the bit... No, what's the big idea? This is incredible blogging. It will sit between The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Ring, with its main story unfold... I don't know. I was reading ahead.
1:54:00 Speaker 02 Do you understand that, like, there's like a giant autoplay video playing? And she's got like, what? A fucking like...
1:54:06 Amanda Dobbins? What the fuck do you want me to do differently?
1:54:08 Speaker 02 It's just get a fucking ad blocker.
1:54:10 Amanda Dobbins? Which one?
1:54:11 Speaker 02 And I'll... I will do it for you. It's like... It's like watching my parents surf the web. It's crazy.
1:54:19 Amanda Dobbins? I don't really use the internet that much on this computer.
1:54:22 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna take this for a one oh five.
1:54:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, do that. Do that.
1:54:25 Amanda Dobbins? Um, it unfolds after Bilbo's one hundred and eleventh birthday party.
1:54:30 Sean Fennessey? Bilbo Baggins.
1:54:31 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, and before... So, happy birthday to him, and before...
1:54:37 Amanda Dobbins? He's so mad because, like, a video about Robin Williams is playing. Before the Fellowship reaches the Mines of Moria.
1:54:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, Moria.
1:54:46 Amanda Dobbins? Do you do protein milk? We've got an ad for protein milk here.
1:54:49 Sean Fennessey? Why aren't you able to pronounce any of the words in this story?
1:54:51 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I don't know what Moria is.
1:54:53 Speaker 02 What is this whole like...
1:54:54 Amanda Dobbins? That was me reading ahead and getting too excited.
1:54:57 Speaker 02 The thing is a mask for your...
1:54:59 Amanda Dobbins? What is the Mines of Moria?
1:55:01 Speaker 02 That's where the dwarves live.
1:55:02 Amanda Dobbins? I fucking... I know what that is. I don't read this shit. But I would do a watch along with you.
1:55:07 Sean Fennessey? And you say you're a classics major. Meanwhile, Tolkien stands astride history.
1:55:12 Amanda Dobbins? I've told you many times, though, that my Greek professor did, like, stop Greek one day and was like, "Let's learn Elvish instead", and started diagramming Elvish in the ways that it's based on Greek and Latin. She was really cool. Margaret... Shout out Margaret Graves. I don't remember anything about uh
1:55:28 Sean Fennessey? You're looking her up now.
1:55:28 Amanda Dobbins? I'm making sure that was her name.
1:55:30 Sean Fennessey? We've got a fascinating moment here. Now
1:55:32 Amanda Dobbins? I was right.
1:55:32 Sean Fennessey? I've got four movies, Chris has got four movies, Amanda's got three movies. She has the least amount of money left. Chris and I, I have 580 and Chris has 574.
1:55:42 Amanda Dobbins? Margaret Graver. Margaret Graves is an art historian.
1:55:45 Speaker 02 Um.
1:55:46 Sean Fennessey? You gotta, so you gotta put a movie on the board and if you get it, it's your last movie. If you don't get it,
1:55:53 Sean Fennessey? then you could still have another chance to put another movie up.
1:55:56 Speaker 02 A lot of the movies that I wanted, I've either gotten or they're, they've been, they've been taken. Um, and I don't really want to do one where you guys can't bid or can't get involved, but I'm, I'm tempted. The, the last one I had on my long list is Hope.
1:56:11 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:56:12 Sean Fennessey? Na Hong Jin's new film.
1:56:14 Speaker 02 I don't know what, do you, do you feel like that could be best foreign film Oscar?
1:56:19 Sean Fennessey? No.
1:56:23 Sean Fennessey? That's not a judgment on the film, but I do not think it will, it will be in the running. If, and if it is, then we are ushering in a wonderful new era.
1:56:32 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:56:33 Sean Fennessey? Then things are changing at the Oscars in exciting ways.
1:56:36 Speaker 02 I can't nominate any sequels. I, I, what am I gonna do here?
1:56:44 Amanda Dobbins? We had a lot of fun at the Hope premiere.
1:56:48 Sean Fennessey? Hope is, Hope is a, is a blast and I think Hope is gonna be even better when they start tweaking it up a little bit.
1:56:53 Amanda Dobbins? Yep.
1:56:53 Sean Fennessey? Before it's released. But it is a two hour and 40 bug hunt movie, set in South Korea.
1:56:58 Amanda Dobbins? That's true.
1:56:59 Sean Fennessey? Or maybe not in South Korea. Who knows where it's set?
1:57:02 Amanda Dobbins? They didn't tell me.
1:57:03 Sean Fennessey? That also features Michael Fassbender and Alicia Vikander and Taylor Russell, sort of. Sort of all three of them.
1:57:10 Speaker 02 Uh.
1:57:12 Sean Fennessey? What, I mean, what about Werewolf? Not a sequel?
1:57:16 Speaker 02 What about werewolf?
1:57:17 Amanda Dobbins? What about werewolf? What do you know about werewolves? Like, what is your personal relationship with that mythology?
1:57:23 Speaker 02 I think that the silver bullet technology is a bit much, that that's what it takes to kill them.
1:57:29 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm. I think that's a relatively recent, I think that's a cinematic invention.
1:57:34 Speaker 02 Oh. Not a-
1:57:36 Sean Fennessey? I don't think that's a literary idea.
1:57:37 Speaker 02 Well, that's a great idea, Amanda.
1:57:39 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:57:40 Speaker 02 Werewolf, for $5.
1:57:42 Amanda Dobbins? That was Sean's idea.
1:57:43 Speaker 02 Sean, thank you for asking that to me.
1:57:46 Sean Fennessey? I'm fucking right here. This guy's thinking about Brie Larson.
1:57:49 Speaker 02 $5 for werewolf.
1:57:50 Sean Fennessey? $15.
1:57:51 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:57:51 Sean Fennessey? I'm, you know, whatever. Why not?
1:57:54 Amanda Dobbins? Why not? Like what you like. Just let me go on vacation.
1:57:58 Sean Fennessey? $25?
1:57:58 Amanda Dobbins? No, I'm not gonna do it. Instead, I-
1:58:01 Sean Fennessey? What are you holding out for?
1:58:02 Speaker 02 Don't you only have three movies?
1:58:04 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but I have some other ideas here. And I don't want, you guys would then saddle me with werewolf. And then I'm like, great, now I got this werewolf to be responsible for.
1:58:11 Speaker 02 $40.
1:58:12 Amanda Dobbins? And I don't really know-
1:58:13 Sean Fennessey? I gotta raise this werewolf. How much?
1:58:15 Speaker 02 $40.
1:58:16 Sean Fennessey? $40 bucks.
1:58:17 Amanda Dobbins? Werewolves aren't real and wolverines are.
1:58:19 Speaker 02 Yes.
1:58:20 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:58:20 Sean Fennessey? Well, we don't know about werewolves.
1:58:21 Amanda Dobbins? Do you feel like, like, tell me about your, how many wolverines have you seen live in your fucking life?
1:58:27 Speaker 02 I've seen that they're in the badger and beaver family, right?
1:58:29 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, sort of.
1:58:30 Speaker 02 Slightly more feral, slightly more dangerous, but not really.
1:58:32 Amanda Dobbins? It's like a land seal, is what it-
1:58:34 Speaker 02 Guess what I did last night?
1:58:35 Amanda Dobbins? Tell me.
1:58:35 Sean Fennessey? Not like a land seal.
1:58:36 Speaker 02 I protected a cat from a coyote.
1:58:39 Amanda Dobbins? What? Give me everything. Tell me, break down the strategy.
1:58:42 Speaker 02 The coyotes in my neighborhood have gotten quite aggressive.
1:58:44 Sean Fennessey? $50.
1:58:45 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
1:58:45 Speaker 02 $55? And they come out like at dusk and they're really in the mix. And there's a street near me that we affectionately refer to as Cat Street, because there's a lot of cats.
1:58:54 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:58:55 Speaker 02 And there is a cat on that-
1:58:56 Sean Fennessey? Sue and Bree, who's having this conversation?
1:58:58 Speaker 02 Street that I call Scritches, but I don't know what its name is. And a coyote was like, coming for it. And I said, "Stop."
1:59:07 Amanda Dobbins? So-
1:59:07 Speaker 02 "You shall not pass."
1:59:11 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
1:59:11 Speaker 02 "You shall not pass."
1:59:17 Sean Fennessey? Sixty-five dollars.
1:59:18 Amanda Dobbins? That Lord of the Rings thing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:59:20 Sean Fennessey? Have you seen it?
1:59:21 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, yeah, once.
1:59:22 Sean Fennessey? Gandalf.
1:59:22 Amanda Dobbins? I did, okay.
1:59:23 Sean Fennessey? He's, he's standing before Balrog.
1:59:25 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
1:59:26 Sean Fennessey? The ancient fire demon.
1:59:27 Amanda Dobbins? Okay. What are the tree people's names?
1:59:31 Sean Fennessey? And, and.
1:59:32 Amanda Dobbins? No, but like, do they have?
1:59:34 Sean Fennessey? Jim and Stephen.
1:59:35 Speaker 02 Uh, seventy-five.
1:59:37 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:59:38 Sean Fennessey? Seventy-five, what movie are we bidding on? Werewolf?
1:59:41 Amanda Dobbins? Why can't we do a watch along to one of the Hobbit movies?
1:59:46 Sean Fennessey? Uh.
1:59:46 Amanda Dobbins? That's funny.
1:59:47 Sean Fennessey? I, Mallory would probably assassinate you, I think, if you did that.
1:59:49 Amanda Dobbins? That's fine, I, listen.
1:59:51 Speaker 02 Suggesting the Rohirrim. But that's probably too bad.
1:59:54 Sean Fennessey? I don't wanna watch that, I don't wanna watch that.
1:59:55 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
1:59:55 Sean Fennessey? I mean, look, I wanna make more content about Lord of the Rings, I, I'm just gonna say it out loud. I just said it's a bill on the, on the rewatchables last week.
2:00:01 Speaker 02 I'm trying.
2:00:02 Sean Fennessey? You know, I just, I think they're very special, those first three films, the Hobbit films, I don't know what happened. Something happened, it didn't, it isn't good. The first three, I'll say eighty bucks. I'm, I'm fascinated by Werewolf, I hope it's good.
2:00:15 Sean Fennessey? I can't, I can't shake Chris's Wes Anderson insight, but I'm one of those people who's like, you're not seeing the Wes Anderson movie, I know.
2:00:22 Amanda Dobbins? Wes Anderson, that's fine.
2:00:23 Speaker 02 It wasn't an insult.
2:00:24 Amanda Dobbins? Wes Anderson is more excited to talk to you on podcasts, though, so that is one thing. He was lovely.
2:00:29 Sean Fennessey? To talk to on podcasts.
2:00:30 Amanda Dobbins? To you, to you.
2:00:32 Sean Fennessey? He was a great guest, and he'd been somebody I'd always wanted to talk to. Um, Rob, Rob Eggers is a really nice guy, it's not about that, it's more just that he's like, I'm clearly annoying him.
2:00:42 Speaker 02 Do you think it would be insane if in this auction, we started opening it up to like, multiple years? And we were like drafting like the next Scorsese movie and shit?
2:00:50 Sean Fennessey? Oh. Sheesh. Well, I, you know.
2:00:55 Speaker 02 Like a twenty-four month.
2:00:56 Amanda Dobbins? Sorry, I was, I was reading about how this movie is gonna feature early modern English, so I wasn't listening. So what did you say about Scorsese?
2:01:02 Speaker 02 Like, what if we started bidding on things that were also twenty-seven, like opening up the drafting?
2:01:06 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
2:01:07 Amanda Dobbins? Oh.
2:01:07 Sean Fennessey? Is What Happens at Night?
2:01:09 Amanda Dobbins? Gonna be this year?
2:01:10 Sean Fennessey? Could that come out this year? It finished, completed production. It's June thirtieth.
2:01:16 Amanda Dobbins? And they say that it's a, it's like, smaller in scope, right? Well?
2:01:20 Speaker 02 And who's putting that out? Apple?
2:01:22 Sean Fennessey? Apple. I don't know.
2:01:23 Speaker 04 We're over thirty seconds.
2:01:25 Speaker 02 Uh, eighty-five. Apple has two other films coming out, they have a Sean, what's her face, Coda?
2:01:31 Sean Fennessey? Sean Hader, yes, Being Human.
2:01:33 Speaker 02 I was just, I was trying to get there.
2:01:34 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, great.
2:01:35 Speaker 02 And Tenzing, what's that about?
2:01:40 Sean Fennessey? You know.
2:01:40 Speaker 02 That's what it's called.
2:01:41 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, T E N Z I N G.
2:01:43 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:01:43 Sean Fennessey? That's been on the docket for a long time. They have more movies in that coming out. May Day is coming out with Ryan Reynolds.
2:01:49 Speaker 02 You know what we didn't do? And maybe we can revisit it when Amanda goes on vacation.
2:01:52 Sean Fennessey? Yep.
2:01:53 Speaker 02 Is Into the Grey.
2:01:55 Sean Fennessey? You know, I haven't seen it.
2:01:56 Speaker 02 I think it's not that bad.
2:01:58 Sean Fennessey? That's a great place to start.
2:02:00 Speaker 04 Grab 30 seconds.
2:02:01 Sean Fennessey? 95. What, um?
2:02:04 Sean Fennessey? What's a, what is a, is there a garbage nomenclature that we could?
2:02:09 Speaker 02 I mean, what if we just did?
2:02:10 Amanda Dobbins? Late, late Richie.
2:02:11 Sean Fennessey? Good garbage Richie.
2:02:12 Speaker 02 What if we just did late Richie?
2:02:14 Sean Fennessey? I feel like we've done that probably like five times. I'll do it again.
2:02:16 Speaker 02 Okay.
2:02:16 Sean Fennessey? I'll always do it with you. If I need to revisit Guy Ritchie's The Covenant, I will revisit it.
2:02:21 Amanda Dobbins? Wasn't there another one that came out this year? That we didn't?
2:02:24 Speaker 02 There was an Alan Richson movie that came out last year.
2:02:27 Sean Fennessey? There's one coming out later this year, I think, called Wife and Dog.
2:02:30 Speaker 02 A hundred bucks.
2:02:30 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:02:32 Sean Fennessey? Wife and Dog.
2:02:33 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:02:34 Sean Fennessey? Which is, uh, that's the name of your modern literary podcast.
2:02:38 Speaker 02 Wife and Book.
2:02:40 Sean Fennessey? 105.
2:02:45 Sean Fennessey? This is not a Guy Ritchie movie.
2:02:46 Speaker 02 How much money does Sean have left? 580?
2:02:49 Sean Fennessey? More than you.
2:02:51 Speaker 02 And how much money do I have left?
2:02:53 Speaker 04 I believe 574.
2:02:55 Amanda Dobbins? This is a normal way to spend it.
2:02:59 Speaker 02 I, I just, you know what it is? I just, I thought I would get more out of drafting things that you guys had seen and being like, nah.
2:03:06 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:03:06 Speaker 02 It really doesn't, it doesn't hit like, it doesn't hit the same.
2:03:09 Amanda Dobbins? No, it's not. Yeah, it's not as fun.
2:03:11 Speaker 02 $200.
2:03:12 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, okay.
2:03:14 Sean Fennessey? Wow. I'm going to think about that for a minute. Werewolf?
2:03:19 Amanda Dobbins? What are you saving your money for?
2:03:23 Sean Fennessey? I don't know if I have a movie that's going to get it to 85.
2:03:26 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, and you don't think Werewolf will, you think that everyone will appreciate the technical achievements?
2:03:32 Speaker 02 Well, this is the problem is you've seen too many things.
2:03:35 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:03:35 Sean Fennessey? That is the problem.
2:03:36 Amanda Dobbins? Mm hmm.
2:03:38 Sean Fennessey? Where, what do you think Nosferatu's Metacritic score is?
2:03:40 Speaker 02 72.
2:03:42 Sean Fennessey? What do you think?
2:03:45 Amanda Dobbins? Uh, 74. I think it's probably right around there.
2:03:48 Sean Fennessey? 78.
2:03:48 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:03:49 Speaker 04 We're at 30 seconds.
2:03:52 Sean Fennessey? I think you can take it.
2:03:55 Amanda Dobbins? So we need just one movie with Metacritic over 85.
2:03:58 Sean Fennessey? Mm-hmm.
2:03:59 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:04:01 Sean Fennessey? And I gotta figure out what that is.
2:04:03 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:04:05 Sean Fennessey? Now, is The Odyssey getting over 85? That's the thing we don't know.
2:04:09 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:04:09 Speaker 02 I think so.
2:04:10 Amanda Dobbins? I don't, I don't know.
2:04:13 Sean Fennessey? I wanna throw this out there. There's a chance for backlash with The Odyssey. I'm not saying it's not gonna do well. I'm not saying it's not gonna be good. But there's a chance for a backlash.
2:04:25 Speaker 02 They tried already.
2:04:26 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:04:27 Sean Fennessey? No, that was like a, that was like a anti-woke thing.
2:04:29 Speaker 02 Oh, you just think people are gonna see it and be like, nah, try again?
2:04:33 Sean Fennessey? There's just so much hype.
2:04:34 Speaker 02 Snooze?
2:04:35 Sean Fennessey? Now, obviously Oppenheimer defeated that fascinatingly. Like, that was a historical drama that he drove to $980 million or whatever. That was amazing that that happened. And this is not me wearing my, like, Nolan hater hat. Like, I'm actually just kinda curious culturally.
2:04:49 Amanda Dobbins? This a week after six, six out of 10 is like an interesting test for you of like, I know you wanna be right, but you also wanna, you know?
2:04:58 Sean Fennessey? No, it's, it's, it's more like, if I'm considering, can it get to 85?
2:05:02 Speaker 02 He's also now-
2:05:03 Sean Fennessey? Will it be like critically as acclaimed?
2:05:05 Speaker 02 He would be on a,
2:05:08 Speaker 02 what, like, eight-year, like, undefeated run of, of commercial and critical? I guess Tenet is looked at as like a misstep, but that was more COVID than anything, and we love Tenet.
2:05:24 Sean Fennessey? Right now, Variety, Variety says these are the top 10 Oscar contenders.
2:05:28 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:05:29 Speaker 02 Michael.
2:05:30 Sean Fennessey? Michael is literally in the list. Wild Horse 9, The Social Reckoning, I don't believe that for a second, Project Hail Mary, The Odyssey, La Bola Negra, Fjord, Dune Part III,
2:05:41 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:05:42 Sean Fennessey? Digger,
2:05:44 Sean Fennessey? and the debut.
2:05:47 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, that's, you know, past performance is no indication of future performance for a couple of those, but, but it's also, it's a, at this point in the year, we're always like, there are five that we're sure of and five, we have no idea. And so that's, that seems like some decent guessing. Some of those will, some of those won't. This is a fascinating podcast.
2:06:06 Speaker 02 Do you think that it's-
2:06:07 Amanda Dobbins? Does he have a pick now? Do I, what's happening?
2:06:09 Sean Fennessey? I have a pick. Chris doesn't need to take another film.
2:06:11 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:06:12 Sean Fennessey? So, but my question is, do I, do I take the debut as my bid for a chance at 85? Which is likely to be an Oscar movie.
2:06:22 Speaker 02 Have you heard anybody who's seen it? Do you know any word on it?
2:06:24 Sean Fennessey? Nope. My gut tells me I'll see it at Telluride. I have no confirmation on that, but that's where it feels like it'll premiere.
2:06:30 Speaker 02 Did you see Jesse Eisenberg very deftly handling-
2:06:33 Amanda Dobbins? I did. He said, it's what Aaron Sorkin said, and he put it very well.
2:06:36 Speaker 02 I do not want to be associated with that character as there's a Minions poster behind him. Did you also see that Michael Mann went to the Minions premiere?
2:06:43 Amanda Dobbins? I didn't. Did he review it?
2:06:44 Speaker 02 Michael Mann?
2:06:45 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:06:46 Speaker 02 I don't even know where he would have put that review.
2:06:48 Amanda Dobbins? I don't know. I just, listen.
2:06:49 Speaker 02 I think he took his family, who must be Minions fans.
2:06:52 Sean Fennessey? The other movie that I could take that I think is gonna get 85 is Wildwood.
2:06:56 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:06:56 Sean Fennessey? Which is the animated movie that, that Travis Knight's second film of the year after The Masters of the Universe situation.
2:07:01 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:07:03 Sean Fennessey? I didn't realize this until I was in the bookstore. I knew that Wildwood was based on a book. I didn't realize it was written by Colin Malloy, the lead singer of The Decemberists. And he wrote this-
2:07:13 Speaker 02 One of your favorite bands.
2:07:14 Sean Fennessey? Not a band I love, but a doorstopper novel.
2:07:17 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:07:18 Sean Fennessey? It's like a 500-page novel that I bought and I started reading it to Alice last week. Very good, maybe a little, maybe a little mature.
2:07:25 Amanda Dobbins? I was gonna say, it's, it's a graphic novel. It's a, you're just reading a 500-page novel.
2:07:31 Sean Fennessey? Proper novel. It's like Harry Potter, though. I mean, it's the same thing.
2:07:33 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, I see. Okay, I didn't-
2:07:34 Sean Fennessey? It's a sort of like, it's sort of YA.
2:07:36 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:07:37 Sean Fennessey? Sort of in that like 8 to 14 range. And the movie looks amazing. I think it is the trailer of the year. I know you guys don't care about stop motion animation, but the trailer is just breathtaking. And I think it's gonna be a great, I think it has a chance to be a great film.
2:07:49 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:07:52 Sean Fennessey? I know you don't care.
2:07:52 Amanda Dobbins? Well, do you think that people will hold Masters of the Universe and other things against Travis Knight critically?
2:08:00 Sean Fennessey? I don't think so. I don't think people even know who Travis Knight is, really.
2:08:04 Amanda Dobbins? Don't you think the critics, though, who are registered on Metacritic know? I'm just trying to help you here. I'm not gonna get in the mix with you on this, and you have more money than me.
2:08:12 Sean Fennessey? I think they have a Brie Larson voice.
2:08:13 Speaker 02 So what you're talking about, you're trying to decide between Wildwood and...
2:08:16 Amanda Dobbins? I think that's...
2:08:17 Sean Fennessey? And the debut.
2:08:19 Amanda Dobbins? Can't believe I'm in the position of defending animation critics, being like, "That's rude." They don't use AI.
2:08:24 Sean Fennessey? Of course, they know who Travis Knight is, because he, you know, led the Holika for a long time and has directed animated features, for sure.
2:08:32 Sean Fennessey? I don't know. There's gotta be another movie out there, like Clarissa, which was at Cannes, but we didn't see it. It's a movie I'm curious about. You mentioned Tenzing.
2:08:41 Amanda Dobbins? Right now, you're looking for 85.
2:08:44 Sean Fennessey? I'm 85 Hunting. What else is out there?
2:08:46 Speaker 02 When does Your Mother, Your Mother, Your Mother come out?
2:08:49 Sean Fennessey? It's in the fall. Haven't seen that yet either.
2:08:50 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:08:52 Sean Fennessey? That's, uh, Basam Tarek.
2:08:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's basically the Blade Crew, which is like, "Let's make a movie."
2:08:59 Sean Fennessey? Which I'm excited about.
2:08:59 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:09:02 Sean Fennessey? La Bola Negra is exactly the movie I would have taken if I were not at Cannes.
2:09:06 Amanda Dobbins? You know, this is very boring, but I left, and so I have two Cannes titles in my back pocket that I'm gonna do, and...
2:09:12 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, although I don't think that's getting 85 either.
2:09:14 Amanda Dobbins? No, but there's another one that I think will, and, you know, and away I go as soon as you conclude. I'm trying to be supportive here for you, you know?
2:09:24 Speaker 02 I think that you should pick the debut.
2:09:29 Sean Fennessey? Because I'm Team Eisenberg?
2:09:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think...
2:09:31 Amanda Dobbins? I'm also Team Eisenberg.
2:09:32 Speaker 02 Jesse, I wanna see him continue to make films this...
2:09:37 Sean Fennessey? Out of respect to Jesse Eisenberg, I'll pay $100 for the debut.
2:09:42 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:09:44 Amanda Dobbins? And then you just leave the other 480 on the table, out of respect for Jesse Eisenberg also?
2:09:49 Sean Fennessey? That's right.
2:09:50 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:09:50 Speaker 02 We may need to eventually address the $1,000.
2:09:54 Amanda Dobbins? Okay, why?
2:09:55 Sean Fennessey? Well, we didn't drive each other up enough on other films.
2:09:57 Speaker 02 I know, I know.
2:09:58 Sean Fennessey? That was the move.
2:09:58 Speaker 02 The triggers and the you guys going to Cannes. Next time, just don't go to Cannes. We'll have a more exciting pod.
2:10:04 Sean Fennessey? What are we gonna do together in that time? You're gonna go somewhere else. You don't care. We'll just stay home while you go.
2:10:09 Amanda Dobbins? Why don't you...
2:10:09 Sean Fennessey? You go to Cannes.
2:10:10 Amanda Dobbins? You know what was not auctioned?
2:10:14 Amanda Dobbins? Even by you.
2:10:15 Speaker 02 What?
2:10:16 Amanda Dobbins? In either auction. Speaking of Cannes was her private hell, which you skipped and you still have not seen. Like where you're, you could, you could have come. You could have been there.
2:10:25 Speaker 02 I really didn't appreciate his disrespect to this film. And it's actually like a sore spot. It's a little bit of a.
2:10:30 Amanda Dobbins? Well, you could have, you could have bought it and you didn't.
2:10:34 Speaker 02 I, I think that it sounds like NWR really empowered those actresses to have creative equity in the movie. And I'm surprised that you dismissed it.
2:10:45 Sean Fennessey? The film is now in my mind, part of a 10 movies we missed episode that will air later in July.
2:10:50 Speaker 02 Fucked up.
2:10:51 Amanda Dobbins? Well.
2:10:52 Sean Fennessey? It does, it's not good. I don't know what to say. I, I was with you on Copenhagen Cowboy.
2:10:57 Speaker 02 Yes.
2:10:58 Amanda Dobbins? You could have been there in Cannes, leading the charge. You were where.
2:11:01 Speaker 02 I could not have.
2:11:02 Amanda Dobbins? Why not?
2:11:02 Speaker 02 I was, I went to Portland.
2:11:05 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:11:05 Speaker 02 And I also, I'm on like 10 pods.
2:11:08 Amanda Dobbins? There was a third bedroom. You know?
2:11:11 Sean Fennessey? There was.
2:11:11 Amanda Dobbins? You would have had a shared bathroom with not me, but uh, that's, we could have made it happen.
2:11:16 Sean Fennessey? One thing I didn't mention on any of the Cannes podcast discussions was the size of the bathroom that I used. Not, not large.
2:11:22 Amanda Dobbins? But you got the shower.
2:11:24 Speaker 02 Did you give him the option?
2:11:25 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:11:26 Amanda Dobbins? So I took the larger bedroom and then I took the bathroom with just the bathtub and the showerhead. So yeah, so he actually got a shower.
2:11:33 Sean Fennessey? Much nicer bathroom though.
2:11:35 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I'm sorry. We can rearrange it next time, you know, whatever. You could not have fit into the bathtub.
2:11:41 Sean Fennessey? I can fucking rent my own chateau.
2:11:43 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:11:43 Sean Fennessey? That's what I'm gonna do.
2:11:44 Speaker 02 That'd be dope.
2:11:44 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:11:46 Sean Fennessey? Okay. So you believe in her private hell, but you never, you chose not to spend any money.
2:11:50 Amanda Dobbins? There was beautiful tiling in that bathroom.
2:11:52 Speaker 02 I mean, there's, there's plenty of films that I got, I X'd myself out of. I, nobody took Avengers Doomsday.
2:11:58 Sean Fennessey? Thought about it.
2:11:59 Speaker 02 Nobody took.
2:12:01 Sean Fennessey? You know, I mean, you guys couldn't take sequels, so there were not, there are not many opportunities to take that film.
2:12:06 Amanda Dobbins? You did the debut for a hundred dollars. Oh, okay. Shall I do mine very quickly? And then we can.
2:12:11 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, do yours.
2:12:12 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. So with, so I've done the math. So for $88, I'm going to take Minotaur, uh, directed by Andrei Zbatsinov, which won the, the, the, what's the second?
2:12:23 Sean Fennessey? The Grand Prix.
2:12:24 Amanda Dobbins? The Grand Prix at Cannes and.
2:12:28 Amanda Dobbins? It's a remake of, um, the Unfaithful Wife and then also Unfaithful. And, but set in the, against the backdrop of the Russian war. What?
2:12:40 Sean Fennessey? Landry Shamet signs new four-year deal to remain with the New York Knicks. Come on, baby.
2:12:47 Speaker 02 It's gonna be such a hard come down for you.
2:12:49 Sean Fennessey? Let's go.
2:12:50 Speaker 02 I can't wait to document it tirelessly.
2:12:52 Sean Fennessey? I'll never come down. We already won.
2:12:55 Amanda Dobbins? And then for $87, La Bola Negra, which is another film that I did not see at Cannes because I went to celebrate my 10th wedding anniversary.
2:13:04 Sean Fennessey? Acquired by Netflix.
2:13:05 Amanda Dobbins? Mm-hmm.
2:13:06 Sean Fennessey? And a sweeping.
2:13:09 Speaker 02 Penelope.
2:13:09 Sean Fennessey? Magisterial film.
2:13:11 Speaker 02 What a year for her so far?
2:13:12 Sean Fennessey? She has a very small role in the movie, but unforgettable, as is Glenn Close, less memorable.
2:13:18 Speaker 02 Does she play a wife?
2:13:20 Sean Fennessey? No. She plays a literary historian.
2:13:24 Amanda Dobbins? Like a man. Much like myself. Yeah.
2:13:26 Sean Fennessey? Well, I think she's a bit more seasoned. Uh, I liked La Bola Negra.
2:13:32 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, you texted me afterwards and I'm like, this, it really knocked me out. And you said it wasn't perfect.
2:13:36 Sean Fennessey? Yeah.
2:13:37 Amanda Dobbins? But I was jealous. I was really upset that I missed both of those at Cannes.
2:13:40 Speaker 02 A generation spanning.
2:13:42 Amanda Dobbins? So.
2:13:43 Sean Fennessey? It takes place across three timelines in Spain.
2:13:46 Speaker 02 And it's a.
2:13:46 Sean Fennessey? Twice in the 20s and 30s. No, it has a lot of Spanish poet history in it.
2:13:59 Sean Fennessey? And one of the timelines is sort of, not present day, but maybe 2017.
2:14:04 Sean Fennessey? And it's, you know, three different queer characters, three gay men over those periods of time. And how they intersect with the fascists.
2:14:12 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, it's, it's based on like a unfinished Federico Garcia Lorca.
2:14:17 Speaker 02 That's what it is.
2:14:17 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:14:17 Sean Fennessey? It's, it, it isn't like based on it.
2:14:20 Amanda Dobbins? Inspired by.
2:14:21 Sean Fennessey? Inspired by. Yes, inspired by.
2:14:23 Amanda Dobbins? Sorry. So would it have been eligible in the 2010 redraft?
2:14:30 Sean Fennessey? Oh, because of the parameters of that?
2:14:31 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:14:33 Sean Fennessey? It's all like a tangled chicken wire up here with the different rules that I've created for all these games.
2:14:38 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:14:38 Sean Fennessey? And I'm doing my best. I know you guys are doing your best too, and I appreciate you playing along.
2:14:42 Speaker 02 I think we are doing our best.
2:14:43 Sean Fennessey? Can you, well, just create a game, like create one game.
2:14:47 Speaker 02 I think that my value, my value proposition is to be ready to play any game. But I don't come up with the games.
2:14:56 Sean Fennessey? But here's the thing, if you, will you create a game?
2:14:58 Amanda Dobbins? You want me to create a game?
2:14:59 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. I just asked you that.
2:15:04 Amanda Dobbins? Well, there are many other games that could be played. I still think that what's
2:15:13 Amanda Dobbins? You guys are such assholes.
2:15:15 Speaker 02 I thought you wanted to say is you don't actually like playing games very much.
2:15:18 Amanda Dobbins? I love playing Heads Up, and I think Heads Up is very fun. Excuse me.
2:15:22 Speaker 02 No, I'm kind of, I know I am visualizing playing Heads Up.
2:15:25 Amanda Dobbins? Whatever happened today for you?
2:15:28 Speaker 02 I'm visualizing what's
2:15:28 Amanda Dobbins? Let's just restart.
2:15:29 Speaker 02 Let's, you know, let's see, would Heads Up work as a podcast?
2:15:34 Amanda Dobbins? I don't know. I mean, there's probably like a video way that you could set it up where the audience could see it, but the other people can't. I think I'm pretty inspired.
2:15:42 Speaker 02 I don't want to leave our blind listeners behind.
2:15:43 Amanda Dobbins? I'm inspired at Heads Up. Okay.
2:15:46 Sean Fennessey? I guess that's the thing is how many people are actually listening versus how many people are actually watching. I don't, I don't know the answer to that question.
2:15:52 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:15:53 Sean Fennessey? If What Happens at Night comes out, we're gonna feel stupid.
2:15:56 Amanda Dobbins? We are.
2:15:57 Speaker 02 Yeah, but who can be blamed? I mean, like, we were working with the best information we can here, right?
2:16:02 Amanda Dobbins? I think we feel stupid a lot of the time when we look at our auction results six months later.
2:16:08 Sean Fennessey? It's very true.
2:16:08 Amanda Dobbins? I think that's part of the exercise.
2:16:10 Sean Fennessey? Here, here are the films that I listed that went undrafted, okay?
2:16:15 Amanda Dobbins? Unauctioned.
2:16:16 Sean Fennessey? Unauctioned. Avengers: Doomsday you mentioned?
2:16:18 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:16:19 Sean Fennessey? Tony, the Anthony Bourdain, Matt Johnson biography.
2:16:24 Speaker 02 Although probably not gonna hit a lot of the triggers.
2:16:27 Sean Fennessey? Probably not, but in terms of movies, I'd like to potentially have my slate. I mentioned Wildwood, we talked about Street Fighter, The Great Beyond from J.J. Abrams.
2:16:35 Speaker 02 Did you just, we talked about Street Fighter? Did we talk about Street Fighter?
2:16:39 Sean Fennessey? We did, Amanda and I were discussing it while you were, I don't know, jerking off or whatever.
2:16:44 Amanda Dobbins? I thought
2:16:44 Speaker 02 It's a drive-by?
2:16:45 Amanda Dobbins? I thought that it was the
2:16:46 Sean Fennessey? We were talking, you didn't listen.
2:16:47 Speaker 02 Oh, you were talking about on this podcast?
2:16:49 Sean Fennessey? Street Fighter, yeah, it came up.
2:16:50 Amanda Dobbins? Because you haven't cut your nut yet.
2:16:51 Sean Fennessey? Amanda said that was one of the better
2:16:52 Amanda Dobbins? So you can still do that.
2:16:53 Sean Fennessey? Video game trailers we saw.
2:16:54 Amanda Dobbins? Though I think you can still jerk off after you have a vasectomy, it just doesn't have any of the stuff in it.
2:16:59 Sean Fennessey? Of course you can jerk off after you have a vasectomy. What are you talking about?
2:17:03 Speaker 02 Nobody would get a vasectomy.
2:17:06 Amanda Dobbins? Can you jerk off after you get your nuts cut?
2:17:08 Sean Fennessey? That's not, that's not-
2:17:09 Speaker 02 But that's a metaphor.
2:17:10 Sean Fennessey? You're misunderstanding, yeah, no.
2:17:11 Speaker 02 It's a figure of speech for like-
2:17:13 Amanda Dobbins? Well, we had a big conversation about it.
2:17:15 Speaker 02 Nuts cut in time. Are you gonna step up?
2:17:17 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. You said, you made a proclamation that you understood how these things work after Jackass 5.
2:17:23 Amanda Dobbins? I said that I'm learning and there are things that I do know and things I don't know.
2:17:26 Sean Fennessey? You're the mother of sons.
2:17:27 Amanda Dobbins? I know, that's what I'm saying. I do, most of the time, I'm just like, hey Zach, can you come check that? That look normal?
2:17:33 Sean Fennessey? You're gonna have a crazy next 15 years.
2:17:36 Amanda Dobbins? I know that.
2:17:37 Sean Fennessey? It's gonna destroy you. You have no idea what these, what these boys are capable of.
2:17:42 Amanda Dobbins? As I think we, we learned, it is destroying me on a weekendly basis, okay? And now like, here I am, ready to hank and he's just like, no selling me everywhere because I don't have the right ad blocker installed.
2:17:54 Speaker 02 No, I'm not no selling. I think you, you need to start looking at us for what we are, which is your refuge.
2:18:00 Amanda Dobbins? That's what I was trying.
2:18:01 Speaker 02 Your sanctuary.
2:18:02 Amanda Dobbins? And I was trying to suggest fun games and talk to you about your macros and your weightlifting?
2:18:07 Speaker 02 I, I'm just in a sensitive place with it because I'm just not sticking with it enough. I'm not consistent enough.
2:18:11 Amanda Dobbins? Well, that's why I think you should come do something that's more portable with me-
2:18:16 Speaker 02 Okay.
2:18:16 Amanda Dobbins? -in the hotel. You know, when you were saying you watched the Hunger Games Ballad of Songs, whatever, in the hotel room? No, do a Sodometh as it instead, buddy.
2:18:24 Speaker 02 Did you already find the spot in Toronto in which to do it?
2:18:26 Amanda Dobbins? I do have several recommendations for Pilates, but you've already told me you're not open-
2:18:30 Speaker 02 I'm not gonna go to a class.
2:18:32 Amanda Dobbins? -to an in-class Pilates experience, so it's gonna be-
2:18:35 Speaker 02 A bunch of Canadian women and me in a Pilates class.
2:18:36 Sean Fennessey? Do you wanna come over and Google image search Brie Larson with me?
2:18:43 Speaker 02 That laugh was terrible.
2:18:44 Sean Fennessey? Other films. So The Great Pilates is directed by J.J. Abrams. That's Gracie Abrams' dad, in case you guys are wondering who he is. Your Mother, Your Mother, Your Mother, you mentioned. Godzilla Minus Zero.
2:18:55 Amanda Dobbins? I thought about it.
2:18:56 Speaker 02 Sequel.
2:18:57 Sean Fennessey? Yeah. I'm pretty excited about that. We also saw some stuff from that.
2:19:01 Amanda Dobbins? I didn't, I missed it.
2:19:02 Sean Fennessey? Oh, you missed that.
2:19:03 Amanda Dobbins? Cause that's my set. Once again, once a trip, I fuck up my alarm.
2:19:07 Sean Fennessey? Oh, right.
2:19:07 Amanda Dobbins? And that because I don't use an alarm.
2:19:09 Speaker 02 You're not like a-
2:19:10 Amanda Dobbins? Zach wakes me up every day.
2:19:11 Speaker 02 Oh, my god.
2:19:12 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, with coffee. And that's why I married him and not Jacob Lurie, but-
2:19:17 Sean Fennessey? That's the only reason.
2:19:19 Speaker 02 It was 50 50. And Zach came in with the last second offer.
2:19:23 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, but so I I I'd always fuck up the alarm. I set up for like AM instead of PM or, you know, turn it, it's.
2:19:31 Sean Fennessey? There's her private hell and then there's a place in hell, which is Daisy Edgar Jones, Michelle Williams.
2:19:35 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, that does, yeah, I'm excited about that.
2:19:37 Sean Fennessey? Christmas release as well. That looks fun. Uh, Sense and Sensibility. You have any thoughts on that?
2:19:43 Speaker 02 That is also Daisy Edgar Jones.
2:19:45 Sean Fennessey? It is.
2:19:46 Amanda Dobbins? Correct?
2:19:46 Sean Fennessey? Big year for her.
2:19:48 Amanda Dobbins? Have you seen the 1995 Sense and Sensibility?
2:19:50 Speaker 02 For sure.
2:19:50 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:19:51 Speaker 02 I have.
2:19:52 Amanda Dobbins? Good.
2:19:52 Speaker 02 I get them mixed up. Like a lot of the Austins, I get a little mixed up. There's Emma.
2:19:57 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:19:57 Speaker 02 There's Pride and Prejudice.
2:19:58 Amanda Dobbins? Keep going.
2:19:59 Speaker 02 And there's Sense and Sensibility.
2:19:59 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, there are three more. Do you know those?
2:20:01 Speaker 02 Mansfield Park.
2:20:02 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah. Yeah, two more. One's a place.
2:20:06 Speaker 02 North Ranger Abbey?
2:20:07 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah, and one more. And one more, which is a classic.
2:20:11 Speaker 02 Is it a woman's name?
2:20:12 Amanda Dobbins? Mm mm. Um.
2:20:14 Sean Fennessey? Persuasion.
2:20:15 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
2:20:15 Speaker 02 Yeah. Bang.
2:20:16 Amanda Dobbins? There you go. Together, you did it, and I'm proud of both of you.
2:20:19 Sean Fennessey? I never would have gotten North Ridge Abbey.
2:20:21 Speaker 02 North Ranger.
2:20:21 Amanda Dobbins? North Ranger or Northanger, yeah.
2:20:23 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know that one.
2:20:24 Amanda Dobbins? You caught up on the plot of Pride and Prejudice since we last spoke?
2:20:31 Sean Fennessey? No, no, probably not.
2:20:33 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:20:34 Sean Fennessey? Uh, Pride and Prejudice is Mr. Darcy?
2:20:37 Amanda Dobbins? Yes.
2:20:37 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, I know that one.
2:20:38 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:20:38 Speaker 02 Sense and Sensibility is?
2:20:40 Amanda Dobbins? Eleanor and Marianne Dashwood.
2:20:42 Speaker 02 Sisters.
2:20:43 Amanda Dobbins? And Mr. Willoughby. Yeah.
2:20:45 Speaker 02 Jane Austen, could she come up with like a different plot? Doesn't it seem like she kind of ran the same one out there a couple of times?
2:20:50 Sean Fennessey? Boy, I wonder if this gal should get married.
2:20:53 Sean Fennessey? What do you think?
2:20:53 Speaker 02 Let me ask my sister.
2:20:55 Sean Fennessey? The cinematic universe.
2:20:56 Amanda Dobbins? I have a Pilates class to get to. Let's wrap this up.
2:20:59 Sean Fennessey? Uh, Hext, Disney animated feature?
2:21:02 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
2:21:03 Sean Fennessey? I think inspired by Jane Austen, right?
2:21:06 Amanda Dobbins? Cool, yeah, she loves witches.
2:21:07 Speaker 02 She's actually bad.
2:21:09 Sean Fennessey? That was good. Some of the best stuff.
2:21:15 Sean Fennessey? Do you ever wish you had a sister?
2:21:17 Speaker 02 Uh, do you think it would change me?
2:21:19 Sean Fennessey? I do.
2:21:19 Speaker 02 I do, yeah. What's, what do you think's wrong with me?
2:21:21 Sean Fennessey? It's masturbating, I think.
2:21:24 Sean Fennessey? Uh, the young people knew Oz Perkins horror film. Also undrafted Fatherland we mentioned, Teenage Sex and Death.
2:21:30 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:21:31 Sean Fennessey? Um.
2:21:32 Amanda Dobbins? We weren't, well.
2:21:32 Speaker 02 I regret it. I mean, I, there, look, I think I got distracted by Clayface. We'll go through. I wanted to ask you guys briefly, because I know you have a class and I have, I have to attend to some personal matters.
2:21:47 Speaker 02 Does this make you guys, looking at all of these, looking at our, our remaining films, do, do you feel excited for the rest of the year?
2:21:57 Sean Fennessey? Uh, Cannes made it harder.
2:21:59 Amanda Dobbins? To feel excited?
2:22:00 Sean Fennessey? Because it took a bunch of stuff off the table that I look forward to. I catch up on a lot of the Cannes movies historically in Telluride. So now I'm not gonna have to watch any of those movies, which makes conquering Telluride easier, but it makes the year a little bit less like, you know, like The Secret Agent was one of my favorite movies of last year, and I had to wait a many months after that movie premiered at a festival to see it, and then I saw it and I was able to watch it again. And I, I liked that, and maybe, maybe there'll be a ton of great stuff at the fall film festivals this year. I do think that there's a couple of things that are kind of make or breaky on the year, like Digger, a lot is riding on that movie. And it, if it's not, if we don't love it, or even if only one of us likes it.
2:22:36 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:22:37 Sean Fennessey? It makes it a little less fun to talk about.
2:22:38 Speaker 02 I think if Cliff Booth was coming out in theaters, that would make it feel a little bit different. There's something strangely, not anticlimactic, but I think it's like, it'll just feel like it's gone in a weekend, no matter what it is.
2:22:50 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, it's two weeks, but I know what you mean.
2:22:52 Speaker 02 Oh, it's, it's going, and is it going wide, or is it just in select theaters?
2:22:55 Sean Fennessey? I think it's in a thousand IMAX screens.
2:22:56 Speaker 02 Okay.
2:22:57 Sean Fennessey? Well, which is, isn't it an experiment that we'll probably spend a lot of time talking about on the show, but even cover, it's like, I guess you cover that the day it comes out? Right? Because it's such a huge movie for all of us.
2:23:06 Amanda Dobbins? I think so, and also holiday weekend of it all, and, yeah.
2:23:12 Amanda Dobbins? I'm excited.
2:23:13 Sean Fennessey? Me too.
2:23:15 Amanda Dobbins? It's great. I like it when movies come out and I like to get to see them.
2:23:18 Sean Fennessey? I like it too. Okay. Chris, you went first. Why don't you do your slate?
2:23:22 Speaker 02 Can you scroll down a little bit? Thanks bud. I got Wild Horse 9 for $110. Whale Fall for $310. Papered Tiger for $5 and Fjord for $1. And I should note that I got those for so little because they have already been seen by two of my competitors.
2:23:37 Amanda Dobbins? They'll definitely tell everyone on Instagram that, so.
2:23:40 Speaker 02 I'll do that. I'll do a forward face. I've never done a forward facing video.
2:23:43 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:23:44 Speaker 02 And I will do that.
2:23:44 Sean Fennessey? Do you want me to email James Gray just to give him a heads up?
2:23:47 Speaker 02 Yes. And then, uh, did you see that thing where Callum Turner was like, James Gray kept me on the phone for three hours?
2:23:55 Amanda Dobbins? Yep.
2:23:56 Speaker 02 Werewolf for $200 is last.
2:23:59 Sean Fennessey? Okay, I went second, so I'll go, uh, I got Primetime, the Robert Pattinson vehicle for $75. The End of Oak Street for $235. Somehow managed to get Spider-Man: Brand New Day for $5. Clayface for $105 and The Debut for $100. I have $480 remaining for my slate.
2:24:16 Amanda Dobbins? Well, that's just bad financial planning. I got Behemoth, the new Tony Goroy movie for $715. Here Comes the Flood for $10. Other Mommy for $100. Minotaur for $88 and La Bola Negra for $87, I believe, because I only had. That is correct. Yeah.
2:24:34 Sean Fennessey? Okay.
2:24:34 Amanda Dobbins? And I have nothing left.
2:24:36 Sean Fennessey? Who won?
2:24:36 Amanda Dobbins? Emotionally or financially.
2:24:38 Sean Fennessey? Who won the year?
2:24:40 Speaker 02 Uh, well.
2:24:47 Speaker 02 Did you win?
2:24:48 Amanda Dobbins? I mean, you have the Odyssey and Spider-Man, but.
2:24:51 Sean Fennessey? I know, but I don't know if I have an 85 on Metacritic.
2:24:54 Amanda Dobbins? Oh, you mean who won by the things? Yeah.
2:24:57 Sean Fennessey? Right. I've got my $100 million movies.
2:24:59 Speaker 02 I think I might have won. Possibly.
2:25:02 Amanda Dobbins? Where do you think, you think Fjord will get your?
2:25:05 Speaker 02 Fjord will get an Oscar. I think Wild Horse 9 could get an Oscar.
2:25:07 Amanda Dobbins? Where's your 85 coming from?
2:25:10 Speaker 02 Fjord?
2:25:11 Amanda Dobbins? It could, but I don't know. It could get mad. Yeah, people could get mad. What if it's Whalefall? What if everyone's just like electric?
2:25:19 Sean Fennessey? The best thing ever is when a movie like that gets a high critic score.
2:25:22 Amanda Dobbins? Well, if it's like the highest version of what it is, that actually can, you know, critics can meet the moment.
2:25:27 Sean Fennessey? We've really been selling Whalefall on this podcast.
2:25:29 Amanda Dobbins? I know. It better be the best fucking thing that ever happened.
2:25:33 Sean Fennessey? I can promise that. Um, okay. Well, thank you both for playing another one of my games.
2:25:39 Amanda Dobbins? Sure.
2:25:39 Sean Fennessey? I really appreciate you. I think you're both very special people.
2:25:42 Speaker 02 Sorry for no selling you.
2:25:43 Amanda Dobbins? It's okay.
2:25:43 Speaker 02 Just got distracted.
2:25:45 Amanda Dobbins? By the pop-up S?
2:25:45 Speaker 02 And just the whole not being able to jerk off after a vasectomy. I was wondering what was wrong.
2:25:50 Amanda Dobbins? No, I know.
2:25:51 Sean Fennessey? It was a really weird comment.
2:25:52 Amanda Dobbins? I said that you could.
2:25:54 Sean Fennessey? I'm gonna have a bad dream about that comment.
2:25:56 Amanda Dobbins? It's getting your nuts cut. I don't think you'd be able to if your nuts were cut, right?
2:25:59 Sean Fennessey? Say get your nuts cut four times going forward. Just you saying it fewer times, please.
2:26:07 Sean Fennessey? Thank you to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. Thank you to Lucas Cavanagh, Manning the Clock and the Doc.
2:26:14 Sean Fennessey? Next up, the Diane Keaton Hall of Fame.
2:26:17 Amanda Dobbins? Yeah.
2:26:17 Speaker 02 Okay, not on that.
2:26:18 Amanda Dobbins? I gotta go watch a lot of movies.
2:26:20 Sean Fennessey? Yeah, well, we have one week. Um, I've done some of my work. Fortunately, my dear wife loves herself some Diane Keaton, so she's been riding shotgun with me while we power through some of these films. I wish you luck with years 2008 through 2025.
2:26:37 Amanda Dobbins? I said I'd do it.
2:26:38 Speaker 02 Is Tracy taking the first?
2:26:41 Amanda Dobbins? No, Tracy's not doing this.
2:26:42 Sean Fennessey? Tracy's not participating in this one.
2:26:42 Speaker 02 Oh, but you've already watched the other ones?
2:26:45 Amanda Dobbins? Well, I mean, I've seen many Diane Keaton films, and I really thought that I knew everything, but, you know, I missed Palms, so...
2:26:52 Speaker 02 That'd be cool if she had like a whole Redbox era that nobody knew about.
2:26:55 Amanda Dobbins? She does. She kinda does.
2:26:57 Sean Fennessey? She has the elder lady version of that.
2:27:00 Amanda Dobbins? Love Weddings and Other Disasters starring Diane Keaton, Jeremy Irons, Maggie Grace, Diego Benet and Andrew Bachelorette. Me either, but I'm...
2:27:07 Sean Fennessey? Before we go, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen?
2:27:09 Amanda Dobbins? Okay.
2:27:10 Sean Fennessey? Okay, thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on The Big Picture.
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