The 2025 Movie Auction Returns!

Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to conduct Part 2 of their 2025 Movie Auction, where they draft, in auction format, some of the movies they're most excited for this year. Before diving in, they remember the wonderful career of Michael Madsen, who tragically passed away this weekend at 67 years old (2:38). Then, they review the results from their earlier selections this year and revisit the rules and scoring system going forward, before launching into this year's slate, including some mega-blockbusters like 'Superman' and ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’, as well as some smaller but still exciting indies like 'The Ballad of a Small Player' and ‘It Was Just an Accident’ (7:40). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Producer: Jack Sanders THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY THE STARBUCKS COFFEE COMPANY. ORDER NOW | STARBUCKS. COM/MENU Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 0:00Sean Fennessey?

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• 0:48Sean Fennessey?

  I'm Sean Fennessey.

• 0:48Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm Amanda Dobbins.

• 0:49Sean Fennessey?

  And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. It is the midway point of the year and so we are auctioning once again to fill out our slates, which means Chris Ryan's here.

• 0:59Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 0:59Sean Fennessey?

  Chris, how are you?

• 1:00Speaker 02

  Nice to see you guys.

• 1:01Sean Fennessey?

  Nice to see you. Chris, last time I saw you, we were crying, arm in arm, watching The Wild Bunch on 70mm.

• 1:06Speaker 02

  What an experience.

• 1:08Sean Fennessey?

  It was a magical night, me, you, Tyler Parker, 300 other very normal men experiencing cinema together. Any takeaways from that night out?

• 1:17Speaker 02

  I just can't believe how alive and well the spirit of movies is in Hollywood. There was also a Trump rally, I think, in Hollywood last night.

• 1:24Sean Fennessey?

  Which you organized and weirdly made it out to the movie. That was so strange.

• 1:28Speaker 02

  They just needed me for pre-pro.

• 1:31Sean Fennessey?

  Amanda, how are you? How was your weekend? Did you go to the Trump rally?

• 1:34Amanda Dobbins?

  It was lovely. No.

• 1:35Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 1:35Amanda Dobbins?

  I went to the beach.

• 1:36Sean Fennessey?

  All right.

• 1:37Amanda Dobbins?

  And I had a great time and now I'm back here sitting between the two of you.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  I can't tell. Are you getting tired of us?

• 1:44Amanda Dobbins?

  I was excited to see you and then he got a little spicy about the box office. And then you guys were doing your, um... Your Wild Bunch, which sounds really nice, but you know.

• 1:57Speaker 02

  The 70 millimeter festival is one of the great things that happens in this city.

• 2:00Amanda Dobbins?

  It is. It's really cool.

• 2:01Sean Fennessey?

  It was opening weekend and we've all got tickets for various films throughout the month, which will be exciting. Wild Bunch holds up. It's definitely a movie about men not knowing how to be around each other and alive and constantly making choices about the end of the world. So, you know, resonant in these times. Unfortunately, another man is not alive.

• 2:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Jesus Christ.

• 2:28Sean Fennessey?

  That was a segue. You can't get in the way of a segue like that.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  I'll do a better segue.

• 2:33Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  A guy who wouldn't have been a stranger in a Sam Peckinpah movie. How about that?

• 2:38Sean Fennessey?

  That's right. Michael Madsen, the great Michael Madsen would have fit right in. He passed away at 67 on July 3rd, tragically, you know, star of probably most memorably for us, four Quentin Tarantino films.

• 2:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:50Sean Fennessey?

  I think most of us probably saw him for the first time as Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs. He was also in both Kill Bill movies. He was in The Hateful Eight. Actually going through his filmography, kind of blown away by the depth of work that he did in the 90s and 2000s. He really was in From The Doors to The Natural to Kill Me Again, Donnie Brasco, Free Willy.

• 3:09Amanda Dobbins?

  I was gonna say, don't you dare skip Free Willy.

• 3:11Sean Fennessey?

  I mean Wyatt Earp.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Selman Louise, right?

• 3:14Sean Fennessey?

  A ton of movies over the years. A linchpin, often identified as a tough guy, but I always thought more of like your cool nihilist, you know, the anything goes kind of character.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  Pretty quirky.

• 3:23Sean Fennessey?

  Very strange presence. Yes.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. Let's cut the rug.

• 3:27Sean Fennessey?

  Little dance. Yeah. He inspired a lot of your dance moves. Yeah. You know, he's been working mostly in independent and VOD stuff in the last 15, 20 years, but just one of my favorite people to see pop up in a movie. And also one of the stars of your favorite movie Species.

• 3:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure. Yes.

• 3:43Sean Fennessey?

  Which is about an alien woman who comes to this planet. And murders her prey.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  It's apparently gonna be rewatchable.

• 3:52Sean Fennessey?

  So I've heard.

• 3:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  We'll see.

• 3:55Amanda Dobbins?

  That's exciting.

• 3:56Sean Fennessey?

  You're not appearing on that episode?

• 3:56Speaker 02

  I haven't been drafted yet, but you know, I always, I'm waiting for the bat signal to go up.

• 4:01Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. Speaking of bat signals, you guys saluted to a dino shaped shadow in the sky. Called Jurassic World Rebirth. It opened this weekend to 147 million dollars domestically. How are you feeling?

• 4:14Speaker 02

  I feel good, but I, I think the, the other underlying story here is Scarlett Johansson is our most successful movie star now.

• 4:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Well, I, she, the Avengers are counting towards that total, right? So she's just racking up franchises at this point.

• 4:28Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. I think that honestly, when you look at the list of people who are the most successful actors of all time, it's usually because they've been a part of a really long running franchise. Samuel L. Jackson for a while was, I think, the reigning box office king.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  Vin Diesel probably, probably cakes up.

• 4:43Sean Fennessey?

  Definitely. Um, so it's not stunning, but another savvy career move by ScarJo, staying in the news.

• 4:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Anything you want to say to the people or to the dinosaurs?

• 4:54Speaker 02

  Have you thought about whether or not you were too hard on that movie?

• 4:57Sean Fennessey?

  No, it's movies terrible.

• 4:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Direct to camera to Gareth Edwards.

• 5:01Sean Fennessey?

  Gareth, you're a very talented crafts person. Your scripts are terrible. I don't know what to tell you, man. This is like five movies in a row.

• 5:11Sean Fennessey?

  The, the, the box office has, has just been killing it though for three months. Like movies, I had my little, my little emotional break in March where I was like, God, TV, White Lotus and all these other limited series. And then ever since then, I spoke it out of existence.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:24Sean Fennessey?

  It's just been movie time. CRU hosted television podcast. How's that going?

• 5:28Speaker 02

  Uh, it's going fine. Today we talked about the Eternaut, an Argentine, uh, Argentinian show of the, about the end of the world or about a apocalyptic event. And then we also talked about Smoke, which is Dennis Lehane's Apple TV show, which Andy hated. And I thought was fine.

• 5:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 5:45Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting.

• 5:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. I keep finding myself on the other side of like a very passionate argument that I don't have a ton of passion for.

• 5:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 5:52Speaker 02

  You know?

• 5:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. This reminds me that I need your BritBox password so I can watch the show about the Mitfords. Cause-

• 5:59Sean Fennessey?

  There's another show about the Mitfords?

• 6:00Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't think there's ever actually been a show about them.

• 6:04Speaker 02

  Amanda is constantly creating content around it.

• 6:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 6:08Sean Fennessey?

  I'm surprised you didn't create that show.

• 6:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Obviously, many people have been, many characters have been modeled on them throughout time.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Including perhaps one movie that one of us will auction in the fall.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Zora Bennett from Jurassic World Rebirth has got a little bit of a Mitford tour.

• 6:22Amanda Dobbins?

  There was, you know, there's some mercenary qualities to at least one of them.

• 6:27Sean Fennessey?

  That is true. Uh, any, any, any thoughts on Jurassic World? It actually kind of like underperformed relative to the franchise?

• 6:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, sure. Yeah.

• 6:36Sean Fennessey?

  Do you know what the three day weekend box office was for this movie?

• 6:38Speaker 02

  $147 million domestically.

• 6:40Sean Fennessey?

  No, that was the five day weekend.

• 6:42Amanda Dobbins?

  That was what your dollars from Wednesday morning at 8 a.m. went to.

• 6:45Sean Fennessey?

  The three day weekend was 91.

• 6:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow. What cucks.

• 6:48Sean Fennessey?

  That's pretty low, actually, relative to the typical three day weekend for a Jurassic movie.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  And you think Suits is coming along to bust it out?

• 6:55Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know.

• 6:55Amanda Dobbins?

  What else did you do this weekend that has given us this mindset?

• 6:59Sean Fennessey?

  What do you mean?

• 7:00Speaker 02

  He seems good. He seems okay.

• 7:01Amanda Dobbins?

  He seems okay? Okay. Yeah.

• 7:04Sean Fennessey?

  I, I'm just, I'm still confused by you guys being like, we need more of these Jurassic World movies.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  Do you know what, though? I, I rarely do this, but I will remember you said that. A, the next time you like a bad movie and B-

• 7:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  If next year you're like, and of course Jurassic World, which I thought was a really thoughtful depiction.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  Cause I think you count on me not checking the tape, but this one's singed. I'm gonna remember this.

• 7:28Sean Fennessey?

  All right. Fair enough.

• 7:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 7:30Sean Fennessey?

  If I do that, you have, you have the, the privilege to shoot me in the face live on the pod. And I, I promise Eileen will not press charges.

• 7:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Great.

• 7:39Sean Fennessey?

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• 8:04Sean Fennessey?

  Should we talk about the movie auction?

• 8:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Absolutely. We have, you have some updates.

• 8:08Sean Fennessey?

  Well, we, we can go through our, our slate, but you know, a gentleman named Sam Burtwistle has been working on the show for us this summer and he's been helping us build out our documents, provide research, and he made a proposition about the scoring system that we have for the movie auction. Now, the movie auction, I will admit, is one of my least thought-out projects in the history of this show.

• 8:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 8:29Sean Fennessey?

  We kind of, I came up with it like on a Sunday at 9:00 PM before a Monday record. I was just like, guys, can we do this?

• 8:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 8:35Sean Fennessey?

  And you said yes. I had no parameters for success. We didn't properly track it across the year.

• 8:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 8:41Sean Fennessey?

  There were no stakes whatsoever.

• 8:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 8:43Sean Fennessey?

  A year ago, I added some wrinkles to the rules, which I admit-

• 8:48Amanda Dobbins?

  A year ago or six months ago?

• 8:50Sean Fennessey?

  I think it was, it was for 2024. So-

• 8:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:53Sean Fennessey?

  The, the triggers-

• 8:54Speaker 02

  It was the second one of 2024, I believe.

• 8:56Sean Fennessey?

  The triggers were added at the beginning of 2024, which included Metacritic score and box office.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 9:03Sean Fennessey?

  And Oscar nominations-

• 9:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:04Sean Fennessey?

  -as indicators of a strong slate of auctioned-off movies.

• 9:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 9:09Sean Fennessey?

  Again, not some of my best work. Um, so Sam-

• 9:13Speaker 02

  But I think these pods are some of our best work.

• 9:14Amanda Dobbins?

  I do, yeah.

• 9:15Speaker 02

  I think they're some of our most thoughtful discussions of the state of cinema.

• 9:18Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take your word for that.

• 9:20Amanda Dobbins?

  We go new places. We learn new things about each other and the world, you know?

• 9:23Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. That may be true.

• 9:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 9:25Sean Fennessey?

  Um, I don't want to upset that.

• 9:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. I, let me just, I don't want to, I don't want to spoil this auction, but I am bringing like an original auction energy to my personal list and prep for this podcast. That means that I looked at the Letterboxd list 20 minutes ago.

• 9:40Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 9:41Amanda Dobbins?

  But that's okay.

• 9:42Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 9:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Because I did read the new rules, but there are new, there are new rules.

• 9:46Sean Fennessey?

  If we want to employ them.

• 9:47Speaker 02

  Adapt this, yeah.

• 9:48Sean Fennessey?

  So I'll just read them out to you guys and you can let me know if you're interested-

• 9:51Speaker 02

  I don't know if we're gonna get past the Freedom Caucus, but yeah.

• 9:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 9:53Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, major Marjorie Taylor Greene energy this morning.

• 9:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Fuck both of you. And fuck Marjorie Taylor Greene.

• 10:00Sean Fennessey?

  So this would be the new proposed scoring. Rather than just having triggers like we had in the past where if you crossed $100 million domestically, that indicates you're cleared and your board is valid, we could have more of a tiered system. So $150 million at the box office would be 1 point, 300 million would be 1 point, 450 million would be 1 point, so on and so forth. Likewise for Metacritic. 79 on Metacritic would be 1 point, 82 on Metacritic would be 1 point, 85 would be 1 point, and then the highest in the draft- Metacritic wise would also get an additional point. Now, I set an 85 Metacritic bar last year, which is pretty high.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:38Sean Fennessey?

  There's usually only roughly 10 to 12 movies that cross that threshold and nine of them are films that most people will not see. And then, of course, there's Oscars. So there's below the line nominations and wins.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  Only half a point, not very respectful to our craftspeople.

• 10:53Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I think we can also massage anything that Sam has suggested here. Above the line would be one point and a Best Picture win would also be one point. So thoughts on this framework?

• 11:05Speaker 02

  I like it. I also think that there would be my revision to this would be like, should we get a Tony Reali-esque kind of like live scoring going too? Like just to mix it up, you know, where a guy is just like 10 points. That's a great, that's a great idea. You know, like.

• 11:21Sean Fennessey?

  Do you want Jack Sanders to empower to be scoring us in real time? I mean, that is something that we probably could pull off.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  We could have a revolving cast of Tony Reallies.

• 11:29Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 11:31Sean Fennessey?

  You mean, you want to have like a guest come in mid auction and determine? You know, when we first started doing the auction, we had Danny Heifetz come in and explain.

• 11:37Amanda Dobbins?

  That's right. Cause I was quite, I was very nervous about auctioning.

• 11:41Sean Fennessey?

  Right. And Ringer Fantasy Football co-host and participant in many fantasy drafts over the years. This is sort of our version of the fantasy draft. So we could, we could do that in the future. We're not doing it today.

• 11:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 11:51Sean Fennessey?

  We didn't ask anybody. As a, as a resource, Sam went through and graded out our 2024 slates with these rules if applied. And the results, which I acknowledge mean nothing because we weren't using these rules.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Because I'm, I'm winning. So that's of course you acknowledge.

• 12:06Amanda Dobbins?

  No, no, last, last year's.

• 12:08Sean Fennessey?

  Well, the scores from last year, because of that attitude that you're suggesting to be hard, that I would have had 38 points. Chris, you would have had 13.5 and Amanda would have had 10. Now, obviously that's, that's, that's meaningless relative to what we're talking about here. But do you want to do this? Do you want to use this system? Sure. Okay. You're, you're rolling with it.

• 12:25Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm rolling with it. I don't think anything will materially materially change for me.

• 12:31Sean Fennessey?

  In terms of what you're going for.

• 12:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. You know, because we introduced.

• 12:37Amanda Dobbins?

  I guess we had some thresholds last, last summer.

• 12:40Sean Fennessey?

  There was some sequel stuff.

• 12:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we really got into it in January. And I, this strategy, just kinda trying to think in strategy, really threw me off. Like, my course, which is doing what's best for me.

• 12:55Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm.

• 12:56Amanda Dobbins?

  And like, not giving a shit about what anybody else thinks has brought me this far.

• 13:01Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm.

• 13:01Amanda Dobbins?

  So.

• 13:02Sean Fennessey?

  Where would you say that is?

• 13:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Dealing with you on a Monday morning.

• 13:08Sean Fennessey?

  That's what I'm saying. Did you get where you wanted to go?

• 13:10Amanda Dobbins?

  But it's like, you know.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  A prison of your own design.

• 13:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Exactly. I don't, I don't run a studio, so I don't really have to care about box office. I, I don't really respect other people's opinions, so I don't need to care about Metacritic.

• 13:24Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm.

• 13:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, so I think, I think it's good. There was a lot of numbers that you just said, so I'm happy that Sam is doing the math and not me.

• 13:32Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 13:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, I don't know who you just referenced is, or how that would function. Tony?

• 13:38Speaker 02

  Uh, Tony Reali. He was the host of Around the Horn, which is like, pardon the interruption, Around the Horn.

• 13:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  The afternoon block on ESPN.

• 13:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  And like, you know, people would have a take, and he would be like, constantly giving them points or taking away points, depending on like, what he thought of their takes.

• 13:52Sean Fennessey?

  Whether their opinion was interesting.

• 13:53Amanda Dobbins?

  So it would be like, live in the episode, if you just be like, bah.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:57Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I, I do think we should have like, more like buttons and interactive.

• 14:01Sean Fennessey?

  That you wanna be able to press?

• 14:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, exactly. So I.

• 14:03Sean Fennessey?

  We'll definitely look into that.

• 14:04Amanda Dobbins?

  That's a good idea.

• 14:05Sean Fennessey?

  Definitely.

• 14:05Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm going with it.

• 14:06Sean Fennessey?

  They're definitely gonna work and make sense, too.

• 14:08Speaker 02

  Where I was winning something.

• 14:09Amanda Dobbins?

  So you're doing okay this year?

• 14:11Sean Fennessey?

  Well, you, you are doing well this year.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  But I thought I was winning.

• 14:15Sean Fennessey?

  Just relax. It's July 7th. Lot, a lot of ballgame left here.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:21Sean Fennessey?

  Um, let's go through our slates from last year, because that'll help illuminate, I think, what Amanda is saying.

• 14:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Last year?

• 14:26Sean Fennessey?

  Or from last, last auction.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  Last draft.

• 14:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 14:28Sean Fennessey?

  Um, because, yeah, what, so what did you get last year? And where does it's, or last season, and what is it, where does it stand?

• 14:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, let's see. Uh, the first one I have is Meghan 2.0, which was just, you know, a disaster. I, like, did I fuck up? Did they fuck up? Who can really say?

• 14:47Speaker 02

  You should go on the town and talk about it.

• 14:51Sean Fennessey?

  Another postmortem of Megan 2.0.

• 14:54Amanda Dobbins?

  I thought that Jason Blum was very, very savvy to go on The Town and I listened to all of it and enjoyed it. It didn't speak to my personal complaints with the film Megan 2.0, which you and I both saw.

• 15:09Sean Fennessey?

  We did.

• 15:10Amanda Dobbins?

  That didn't really pan out.

• 15:12Sean Fennessey?

  No, I think they overthought what the, I think that Jason was right about the fact that Megan was not as flexible and fungible a character as they had hoped and that the idea of like pivoting this into a sci-fi action movie away from horror.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  I didn't even know they had done that, though. That there's something.

• 15:27Sean Fennessey?

  To me, there's something else, there are a number of other factors going on. I think the movie ultimately is just not as strong as the first movie. It's not as funny, it's not as energetic and propulsive. And then on top of that.

• 15:39Amanda Dobbins?

  It was a little funny, though. That is, I still chuckled.

• 15:42Sean Fennessey?

  It's the same filmmaker from the first film.

• 15:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, it's just doing, it's doing too much and it's trying to, there is an opening set piece in like some, you know, weapon system silo in an undisclosed location that has nothing to do with Megan and you're just kind of like, what's going on?

• 16:01Sean Fennessey?

  It is actually pretty CR-coded.

• 16:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, in that sense.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  Is Megan a lioness?

• 16:06Sean Fennessey?

  Pretty, there is, the villain, the T-1000 of the movie is a kind of lioness.

• 16:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 16:12Sean Fennessey?

  And I think you would be sexually attracted to her.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Well, part of the reason why Lioness is such an effective story is you also get a sense of their home life. They're not robots, you know?

• 16:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 16:21Sean Fennessey?

  I'm sure that's true of Lioness.

• 16:24Sean Fennessey?

  I think the other thing with the movie is they released in the middle of June, which Jason noted, which is like a weird release date. And it's two hours long. And that, movies like that should always be 95 minutes. It just, that made no sense to me, being two hours long.

• 16:35Amanda Dobbins?

  True, agree with all of what you said. And then as Matt sort of pointed out, on The Town, they did not have like the massive viral marketing moment that propelled Megan 1.0. And was just, I mean, you can't control it. You can't fault anyone for not having that, but that was the, the dancing and the TikTok of it all certainly played a part in getting people to theaters.

• 16:58Sean Fennessey?

  I think they were also obviously just competing with a lot more movies for that viral mindshare in June. It's just like How to Train Your Dragon was a massive movie that the same studio put out. There's only so much kind of interest you can genn up.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  It's a Don Quixote movie. It's like a perfect Don Quixote movie.

• 17:12Sean Fennessey?

  The first one absolutely was. It was like, it was.

• 17:16Sean Fennessey?

  It was water in the desert in the January release slate.

• 17:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 17:19Sean Fennessey?

  A year and a half ago. So anyway.

• 17:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Anyway, okay.

• 17:21Sean Fennessey?

  Movie didn't work, so that didn't help you very much.

• 17:22Amanda Dobbins?

  So yeah, and I was banking on that from a box office perspective. Didn't really work, but I did get F1, which I think is gonna help me with box office. And also hopefully technical categories, though once again, I do think that it's disrespectful that it only gets point five.

• 17:39Sean Fennessey?

  There's, there's a exceedingly high chance it will be nominated, at least for best sound.

• 17:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 17:44Sean Fennessey?

  Maybe best editing, cinematography?

• 17:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 17:48Sean Fennessey?

  Claudio Miranda, I believe, was nominated for Top Gun Maverick.

• 17:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 17:50Sean Fennessey?

  So I could see that.

• 17:52Amanda Dobbins?

  See, so listen, we could, we could stack them up, okay? I got Opus, which is a sentimental favorite, so that's fine with me. Phoenician Scheme, which is another one of my favorite movies of the year, so I feel good about that. I think, you know, once again, the critics are not helping me with the Metacritic score, and I don't respect them, and they don't respect me, apparently, or Wes Anderson. Maybe Oscars, but.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Do you think it's a critic's choice? They have an Amanda meeting?

• 18:21Speaker 02

  About disrespecting.

• 18:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I'll be honest, I don't really respect the critics choice.

• 18:26Amanda Dobbins?

  The Oscars, you know, also don't really respect Wes Anderson, so that is seems, but it's fine, I have it because I like it. And then Marty Supreme hasn't been released yet, you know?

• 18:36Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 18:37Amanda Dobbins?

  And to me, we pray.

• 18:38Sean Fennessey?

  At the moment, you've got one total point relative to this new scoring system.

• 18:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 18:43Sean Fennessey?

  Because F1 is likely to cross $150 million domestically.

• 18:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 18:49Sean Fennessey?

  F1 doing pretty well.

• 18:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 18:51Sean Fennessey?

  Not amazingly well at the box office, but well enough, I think.

• 18:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 18:56Sean Fennessey?

  Chris, let's talk about your slate.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  I had Sinners, which got two points for its Metacritic score and one point for its $278 million box office. I guess that's domestic, right?

• 19:07Sean Fennessey?

  Domestic, yeah.

• 19:09Speaker 02

  I took Jurassic World Rebirth, where I got one point, will certainly clear the box office threshold, so.

• 19:15Sean Fennessey?

  Might get to two, might get over 300.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  And then highest to lowest sentimental value and Running Man are my other three picks, not to be released yet, yet to be released.

• 19:24Sean Fennessey?

  Highest, lowest, seeing it tonight.

• 19:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah.

• 19:26Sean Fennessey?

  Very excited.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Are you really?

• 19:27Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 19:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, he's going with my husband.

• 19:29Speaker 02

  I'm very excited for both of you guys.

• 19:31Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I am looking forward to it.

• 19:34Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, so Chris, you've got four points right now? I think, I think you also have probably

• 19:39Speaker 02

  Another point.

• 19:40Sean Fennessey?

  A windfall coming on centers in terms of nominations. That will turn out to be probably the pick of the year.

• 19:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 19:47Sean Fennessey?

  I would guess.

• 19:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Congratulations, Chris.

• 19:49Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 19:50Sean Fennessey?

  Well done, CR. For me, I've got Mission Impossible: Final Reckoning, which, you know, I just didn't really like very much, unfortunately for me.

• 19:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 19:59Sean Fennessey?

  And that did get me-

• 20:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Chris hated it more.

• 20:02Sean Fennessey?

  He did.

• 20:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Would you like to say any more rude things?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  I think I'm on record on the Watch Podcast, which I hope people carve out a little bit of time to listen to.

• 20:12Amanda Dobbins?

  That's your second Watch.

• 20:13Sean Fennessey?

  You make it sound like a nonprofit.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  No, I mean, like, you know, we're, you know, the Oasis record, standing on the shoulder of giants. On the shoulder.

• 20:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 20:23Sean Fennessey?

  You are the shoulders. You're the, you're the wind beneath my wings, honestly. That movie has gained $191 million at the box office, so that's one point. Not getting past there. 67 on Metacritic, not ideal, but roughly-

• 20:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Honestly, higher than, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 20:39Sean Fennessey?

  The idea that the Phoenicians game is 70 and this movie is 67 is pretty goofy, in my opinion.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:44Sean Fennessey?

  28 years later, a movie that I think I'm gonna get no points from, but I feel good about having on my slate.

• 20:49Speaker 02

  You definitely should.

• 20:49Sean Fennessey?

  I loved, 77 Metacritic score, $60 million box office domestically. Still some open question as to whether there will be a third movie in that franchise. The Bone Temple arrives in January.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  I think that'll, that January release will be good for The Bone Temple.

• 21:03Sean Fennessey?

  Could be a, could be a Megan situation.

• 21:05Speaker 02

  Well, I just think it's a great time to be like, here's, here's an action horror movie.

• 21:09Sean Fennessey?

  Totally agree.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Granted, not Danny Boyle, but we'll see.

• 21:12Sean Fennessey?

  A Big Bull Beautiful Journey is still to come in September. Have not seen it. Can't say I love the trailer, to be honest, though I really like Koganata, the director, so hopefully that's good. One battle after another.

• 21:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 21:22Sean Fennessey?

  Paul Thomas Anderson's new film.

• 21:23Amanda Dobbins?

  You're welcome.

• 21:24Sean Fennessey?

  That was very kind of you to allow that to happen. I'll view it as penance for all the times I gave you things that you wanted.

• 21:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 21:33Sean Fennessey?

  One buck, one buck for one battle.

• 21:34Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, because I was filled with the spirit of, you know, generosity and community.

• 21:41Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm. Is this how you treat your children?

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Saint Nick over here.

• 21:45Sean Fennessey?

  10 weeks, that movie comes out.

• 21:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 21:48Sean Fennessey?

  10 weeks. You looking forward to it?

• 21:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes, I would really be looking forward to a Venice opening night premiere.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 21:55Sean Fennessey?

  You think that will happen?

• 21:56Speaker 02

  No.

• 21:57Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't either, but I was, I was thinking about it literally in the shower last night, like I wonder.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  What was I just reading about that Mike go to Venice? And I was like, haha. Uh, it was something weird. So I was like, that would be funny if she has to see that.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  I can't remember, but I was like, this is hilarious. Oh, it was the Putin movie.

• 22:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Listen, I'll be there.

• 22:19Sean Fennessey?

  Nothing would have been funnier than you seeing Joker Folia do. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

• 22:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Thank you, Si, for arranging that.

• 22:26Speaker 02

  Will you participate in the longstanding ovations?

• 22:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Being the opening.

• 22:28Sean Fennessey?

  That would have been great.

• 22:29Amanda Dobbins?

  No.

• 22:29Sean Fennessey?

  Here's just, it was all right.

• 22:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Here's the thing about the ovations is that it's just like, you're just standing around. They're so weird. It's a, it's a good sized theater, but it's not like everyone's on like a balcony at the opera removed from you. They're just kind of like sitting there and everyone's just kind of clapping and the lights are up and you're checking your phone and clapping some more. It's very strange.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Well, honor, honor Vladimir Putin.

• 22:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Definitely. I'll make sure like get in front and center, you know, you think he'll be there?

• 22:58Speaker 02

  No, it's, it's a Saeas, right? It's a Saeas's movie about him.

• 23:01Sean Fennessey?

  I did not even know that was happening. Olivia Saeas is making a movie about Vladimir Putin?

• 23:05Speaker 02

  I think he's done.

• 23:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I think it's gonna be.

• 23:08Sean Fennessey?

  I was not aware of that. That's fascinating. Okay.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  And you had Eddington.

• 23:13Sean Fennessey?

  And I had Eddington. That was my last movie, which I've seen.

• 23:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 23:15Sean Fennessey?

  And loved, and we will talk about on this show in 10 days.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  You know what? I saw when I was watching the trailer for Eddington, or maybe it was a clip from it. It reminded me of my Romulus story of the two guys holding their phones at each other.

• 23:32Sean Fennessey?

  That's basically Eddington.

• 23:36Sean Fennessey?

  It's pretty accurate. It's pretty accurate.

• 23:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, God, no, well, this is just a shitty place. It's so perfect, okay.

• 23:51Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, uh, the highest Metacritic scores of the year so far, three movies. Sorry, Baby, just had Eva Victor on the show last week. Let's talk about that. Familiar Touch, which I recommended on our Best of the Year episode. And Caught by the Tides, which Adam Naaman, uh, sure, yeah, on that episode as well. Seven movies have broken the $150 million threshold thus far.

• 24:11Amanda Dobbins?

  What was your meme of the you versus Adam Naaman?

• 24:14Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, Michael Porter Jr. and Cam Johnson.

• 24:18Sean Fennessey?

  Who do you think is gonna win that trade? The Nuggets. Yeah, I think the Nuggets too. Movies that have crossed the $150 million threshold. Chris, how many of these movies have you seen? A Minecraft movie? Nope. Lilo and Stitch? Nope.

• 24:29Amanda Dobbins?

  An outrage.

• 24:29Sean Fennessey?

  Sinners? Yes.

• 24:32Sean Fennessey?

  How to Train Your Dragon? Nope. Captain America: Brave New World? Yes. Mission Impossible: The Final Reckoning? Yes. Thunderbolts? Yes. Five of seven, pretty good. Joe Popcorn over here.

• 24:44Sean Fennessey?

  Amanda has seen all of them because she signed up for this life with me.

• 24:47Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I actually didn't see a Minecraft movie yet.

• 24:50Sean Fennessey?

  I thought you went and saw that at like 10:00 in the morning or something like that.

• 24:53Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I mean, every single other movie you just listed, I went and saw at 10:00 in the morning.

• 24:57Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. That's okay, because the spirit entered my body when I saw Minecraft. And that was the turning point for movies are back. That's when cinema came back to life. That was when it all happened. Truffaut and Hitchcock. Rolling around in heaven. Yes, thank you, Jared Hess, for all that you have done. According to DraftKings, the best picture betting odds right now. Sentimental value at plus 500, which CR currently has. Additional films, which may or may not be auctioned off today. Sorry. Sentimental value is the.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Betting favorite for best picture?

• 25:32Sean Fennessey?

  When you look at, when you look at the best picture race this year?

• 25:34Amanda Dobbins?

  It's confusing.

• 25:35Sean Fennessey?

  We said this last year and it turned out to be the Anori year, but I remember in the first half of last year, we were like, this is a weird year. And this is also kind of a weird year. There's not like a big.

• 25:45Speaker 02

  I won't stand for any uh hit pieces on my guy Joe.

• 25:49Sean Fennessey?

  My, my guy. Joaquin Trier?

• 25:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck that. We're not doing that.

• 25:52Sean Fennessey?

  I'm not on this show. We, we love him on this show.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  I'm just saying, when the Oscars starts, people are just like, hmm, what about this? What about that?

• 25:58Sean Fennessey?

  You mean when he gets in the news cycle?

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:01Sean Fennessey?

  You, what if I Amelia Perez, Joaquin Trier?

• 26:05Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, no, that won't, that's not gonna happen. Did you watch the, the trailer for it at sentimental value?

• 26:10Speaker 02

  No, I won't do it.

• 26:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 26:12Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 26:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Show us the movie.

• 26:13Sean Fennessey?

  I was quite touched by the trailer.

• 26:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, well, sure. I'm gonna be very moved by the film itself.

• 26:18Speaker 02

  I won't be watching that trailer or that trailer.

• 26:20Sean Fennessey?

  The weapons trailer?

• 26:21Speaker 02

  I'm all good.

• 26:22Sean Fennessey?

  Unfortunately, I saw it in a movie theater, the second one. Um, I need that movie to be released immediately.

• 26:26Amanda Dobbins?

  I only saw the CinemaCon footage and it looked really messed up and good.

• 26:30Sean Fennessey?

  Yep.

• 26:31Amanda Dobbins?

  No, you guys didn't auction that last time?

• 26:33Sean Fennessey?

  We did not. It is available right now.

• 26:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh.

• 26:36Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. So that can be interesting for us.

• 26:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm. Can I auction it if I have no intention of ever seeing it?

• 26:42Sean Fennessey?

  Sure, you can do whatever you like.

• 26:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, maybe, maybe I'll see, but it's, it's just, yeah, it seems really upsetting subject matter. Yeah.

• 26:49Sean Fennessey?

  Um, additional films that are on the list uh for the best picture betting odds, After the Hunt, the Luca Guadagnino movie is plus 700. The Ballad of a Small Player. That will almost assuredly be at Venice. I think probably Atelier too, if I had to guess.

• 27:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. That's, that's your business.

• 27:05Speaker 02

  Sorry, well, how are, how is this introduced? Where, where these lists of films are doing, just films that are available?

• 27:10Sean Fennessey?

  These are just the best picture odds right now as we think about what the slates are gonna be for us. Um, After the Hunt is the Luca movie. The Ballad of a Small Player is the Edward Berger, Macau, Colin Farrell gambling movie.

• 27:21Speaker 02

  I know.

• 27:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Absolutely.

• 27:22Sean Fennessey?

  Which we're all very excited about. Now that, I have a, a bit of a riff about Netflix, if you guys are interested to hear it.

• 27:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure. Oh, sure.

• 27:29Sean Fennessey?

  So.

• 27:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Let's, let's load it up.

• 27:31Sean Fennessey?

  Well, it's not, nothing negative really. It's just that I would argue that. Six of the 14 most anticipated movies of the year are all Netflix movies.

• 27:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure, but then you're taking the box office hit.

• 27:42Sean Fennessey?

  That's, and that, that's my point.

• 27:43Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 27:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, so you gotta want it.

• 27:45Sean Fennessey?

  You've got J. Kelly, the No Bomb Back movie, you've got Frankenstein from GDT, Train Dreams, which premiered at Sundance and they picked up, Wake Up Dead Man, the third Knives Out movie, The Ballad of a Small Player, and Catherine Bigelow's The House of Dynamite.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  What the fuck?

• 27:58Sean Fennessey?

  So that's, that's a really exciting slate for Netflix.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  And that's the new guy, right?

• 28:03Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I think that most of those movies are holdovers from the Scott Stuber era.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:07Sean Fennessey?

  But, um, they'll be pushing them out, and I wanna see all of those movies now.

• 28:12Speaker 02

  Can you retroactively draft Electric State?

• 28:14Sean Fennessey?

  You can.

• 28:18Sean Fennessey?

  And then behind them, Hamlet, Sinners, Avatar, Fire and Ash, these are other potential Best Picture nominees. I think probably only two or three of those movies will be nominated for Best Picture, and there's gonna be a bunch of stuff that we don't know about or isn't listed here.

• 28:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 28:30Sean Fennessey?

  That we'll get into. Okay, movie auction. Now, we have to determine who gets to put the first movie up, right? So Jack, can you help us with that?

• 28:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Jack, you wanna, you wanna explain to people what you're using?

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Absolutely. Rest in peace Top Gun hat, I do not own one. In the green room, I found a large Dungeons and Dragons die, which I will be using to select today's nominations.

• 28:53Amanda Dobbins?

  So it's like soccer ball size?

• 28:54Speaker 03

  It is literally the size of a soccer ball.

• 28:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Which is, I'm told, is not what the normal die size is.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  I don't believe so.

• 29:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 29:01Speaker 03

  Shall I go?

• 29:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 29:02Speaker 03

  Please. Here we go.

• 29:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Great, great sound effects.

• 29:07Sean Fennessey?

  The audio was strong.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  I'm looking out for the audio listeners. Nominating first, C.R.

• 29:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes. Give us the chaos.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  Second will be Sean Fennessy, third Amanda Dobbins.

• 29:29Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 29:30Amanda Dobbins?

  When you, you had first picked the year that you did House of Gucci for like $500, right?

• 29:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm not gonna make that mistake, but I am gonna, I'm gonna keep you guys on your toes.

• 29:39Sean Fennessey?

  You're gonna make another mistake? We, so just for the listeners at home, we each have $1,000 of imaginary money to auction two. Um, we all need five films to fill out our slate, so we have 10 movies total.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:52Sean Fennessey?

  So, Chris, you have the honors. Do you know what you wanna do?

• 29:55Speaker 02

  First pick, first nomination, first movie up for auction.

• 30:01Speaker 02

  Let's do, let's keep it in the, the same track we were on. I'm gonna put Ballad of a Small Player up first. Edward Burger on the Sydney Pollock track could be the safest pair of hands we've got right now. And this film sounds a little wistful, a little contemplative. It's about a con man on the run. Down and out in Macau, a place I have not been. And he is confronting ghosts, pandets of the soul, you know? But I'm getting like wafts, top notes of Michael Clayton from this one.

• 30:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  Like it feels like it's gonna be more than just like Colin Farrell staring at things. And I like, I like its Oscar chances despite its Netflix pedigree.

• 30:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  I, I think it's gonna be seen by a lot of people and it feels like a, a good bet. So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go with that.

• 30:58Sean Fennessey?

  Unlike all the other Netflix titles I mentioned, I haven't really heard much about this movie. I don't.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Based on a novel, 2014 novel?

• 31:07Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, it's Rowan Joffe as the screenwriter.

• 31:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 31:09Sean Fennessey?

  Which is a little bit of a.

• 31:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  What did he write?

• 31:12Amanda Dobbins?

  I was with you.

• 31:12Sean Fennessey?

  28 Weeks Later, Before I Go to Sleep, the Nicole Kidman movie, not like, he's no Tony Gilroy.

• 31:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 31:18Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 31:19Sean Fennessey?

  We'll see.

• 31:20Speaker 02

  Let's put a hundred bucks. We'll put a hundred bucks up there.

• 31:22Sean Fennessey?

  Hundred bucks.

• 31:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:23Sean Fennessey?

  I'll, I'll, I'll say 125 to play the game with you.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Also, we'll say Colin Farrell racking up some, uh, awards love over the last couple of years.

• 31:32Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 31:33Amanda Dobbins?

  That's right.

• 31:33Sean Fennessey?

  The Penguin.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  I think everybody enjoys interviewing him. He's like, he's a great guy to have around on the roundtables.

• 31:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Great speeches.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  Yep. Uh, has been in LA for the last couple of years doing Sugar and I feel like it's like out and about. Like people really like Colin Farrell right now.

• 31:49Sean Fennessey?

  He will also be in A Big Bold Beautiful Journey. I, Ballad of a Small Player, I don't think has a release date. I would assume October, maybe late September.

• 31:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 31:57Sean Fennessey?

  That's pretty soon. It's probably a movie that's in the discussion for the festivals. Netflix usually has a really strong presence at Venice. Do you have any interest in this movie? You like Edward Burger.

• 32:06Amanda Dobbins?

  I do. And I was, I think I was really, really into it respectfully until you brought up Michael Clayton. And I was like, if this is like a be Michael Clayton, then I'll be a little sad, but also I would watch it be Michael Clayton every day. So I'll, I'll do what you did 125.

• 32:23Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 32:23Amanda Dobbins?

  140.

• 32:24Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, we're playing.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  150, 150.

• 32:27Sean Fennessey?

  Is Colin Farrell, if he wins an Oscar, does it feel like you've won an Oscar? Do you feel like that goes on my mantle?

• 32:33Speaker 02

  I think that it would put a capstone on one of the great sustained comebacks in acting, modern acting history. Is that, is that too big of a statement? I think he was really in the wilderness for a minute there.

• 32:47Sean Fennessey?

  I think he was always working, but working in not a lot of good stuff.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:50Sean Fennessey?

  And he seemed to have some personal stuff, too. And, uh, but always super talented.

• 32:55Amanda Dobbins?

  What is it, 150?

• 32:55Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 155.

• 32:58Amanda Dobbins?

  160.

• 32:59Sean Fennessey?

  A movie about a high stakes gambler in Macau is

• 33:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Also, I

• 33:03Sean Fennessey?

  pretty pornography to me.

• 33:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Trust Edward Berger.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:06Amanda Dobbins?

  You know? I, it's like, I, I do kind of believe this.

• 33:10Sean Fennessey?

  Let me, let me, uh, proffer a question to you both.

• 33:15Sean Fennessey?

  Would you rather have Edward Berger make The Next Bond and Denis Villeneuve make what other, whatever movie Edward Berger was gonna make next?

• 33:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I think so.

• 33:23Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I think that's probably true.

• 33:25Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, we all agree.

• 33:25Speaker 02

  Prisoners 2, still in captivity?

• 33:29Sean Fennessey?

  That's the, the film that you want to see Denis make next?

• 33:33Amanda Dobbins?

  That's the, which one? Enemy is the big spider and Prisoners 2 is Jalen Hall and Hugh Jackman.

• 33:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:39Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, Prisoners, but also

• 33:40Speaker 02

  And Prisoners is when, uh, Jake Gyllenhaal goes to the guy's house. He's like, why were you shopping in the kids' section?

• 33:48Sean Fennessey?

  But Enemy is the unofficial sequel to The Wild Bunch about the division between men.

• 33:52Speaker 02

  It's about a pregnant lady and twins.

• 33:54Amanda Dobbins?

  That's cool.

• 33:54Sean Fennessey?

  And spiders.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 33:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, my God.

• 33:59Sean Fennessey?

  What do you got? You got 155?

• 34:01Amanda Dobbins?

  I think I said 160.

• 34:02Sean Fennessey?

  160.

• 34:03Speaker 02

  165.

• 34:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 34:05Sean Fennessey?

  I think I'm good. I do want to see this really bad. I just think no box office makes it complicated.

• 34:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. And probably, I mean, the, the Oscars, the Academy does like Edward Berger.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  This is my thing.

• 34:16Sean Fennessey?

  But they don't seem enough to nominate him. They didn't nominate him last year for

• 34:19Amanda Dobbins?

  But they nominated him for All Quiet on the Western Front, didn't they?

• 34:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm.

• 34:25Sean Fennessey?

  Did they? They may not have.

• 34:26Amanda Dobbins?

  I, let's, yeah, find out about that.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  Remember when you were like the-

• 34:31Sean Fennessey?

  No, they did not.

• 34:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh.

• 34:32Sean Fennessey?

  Only for screenplay.

• 34:33Speaker 02

  So he hasn't been nominated for Conclave?

• 34:34Sean Fennessey?

  He's never been nominated for director.

• 34:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  Okay, well, I'm sticking with my guns. It's 165. I can't take it back.

• 34:40Amanda Dobbins?

  I can't take, I can't take Colin Farrell gambling Macau from you.

• 34:44Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 34:44Sean Fennessey?

  I think this is a, this is gonna be a fun movie.

• 34:47Amanda Dobbins?

  But I'm excited to see this movie.

• 34:47Sean Fennessey?

  This is a movie we should see together.

• 34:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Is it gonna be fun? Or is it gonna be, you know?

• 34:51Sean Fennessey?

  If it's Dark Knight of the Soul, that's great for me. As somebody who loves to gamble.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  I just don't think it's gonna be the card counter. I think it's gonna be, I think it's gonna be-

• 34:58Sean Fennessey?

  A little more pop.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  A little bit more pop. Till the Swinton swanning around.

• 35:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Right. I mean, Conclave, you could also say is about longing and, you know, a man trying to figure out-

• 35:08Speaker 02

  But it's very procedural.

• 35:09Amanda Dobbins?

  What he's done with his life. Exactly. So this could be-

• 35:12Speaker 02

  I hope, I hope that this has some-

• 35:14Amanda Dobbins?

  If this has court intrigue as well.

• 35:16Sean Fennessey?

  Are you suggesting that a card counter was not procedural?

• 35:18Speaker 02

  I think it was more of like a, you know-

• 35:21Sean Fennessey?

  It's about the procedures and Abu Ghraib.

• 35:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, right. Interrogation of torture.

• 35:25Sean Fennessey?

  Right. Um, okay, so I have to put a movie up. Congrats to you.

• 35:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 35:34Amanda Dobbins?

  So 165 is what you did?

• 35:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was value.

• 35:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  To me.

• 35:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 35:41Sean Fennessey?

  I think this is good fodder for conversation. I'll put After the Hunt on the board.

• 35:47Amanda Dobbins?

  All right.

• 35:47Sean Fennessey?

  I feel like we should just talk it out now.

• 35:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 35:50Sean Fennessey?

  This is a campus cancel culture drama-

• 35:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:55Sean Fennessey?

  From Luca Guadagnino and is it Justin Karitskas?

• 35:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, that's a great question.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  He wrote Sergeant Rock. I don't know if he wrote this.

• 36:02Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't think so, but-

• 36:04Sean Fennessey?

  Who wrote this screenplay?

• 36:05Speaker 02

  Did you see Luca's doing a Sam Altman-

• 36:06Sean Fennessey?

  Nora Garrett, excuse me, is the writer.

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Shooting a Sam Altman movie right now?

• 36:09Sean Fennessey?

  Who is?

• 36:09Speaker 02

  Luca's gonna make a Sam Altman movie next month.

• 36:11Sean Fennessey?

  About OpenAI?

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Without Andrew Garfield.

• 36:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Do you know what else Nora Garrett wrote?

• 36:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 36:18Sean Fennessey?

  Don't.

• 36:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Beirut! Oh, shit!

• 36:21Sean Fennessey?

  Wow, wow! There are millions of people listening at home who have no idea what Beirut is, guys.

• 36:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, sure, but we had a Slack channel devoted to it. Chris, that Chris started.

• 36:29Sean Fennessey?

  Chris's favorite film of 2016, Beirut, starring Jon Hamm.

• 36:33Amanda Dobbins?

  No, no, no, she was in it. Sorry, I fucked up.

• 36:36Sean Fennessey?

  Nora Garrett was in it.

• 36:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Nora Garrett wrote Beirut, of course he did, yeah.

• 36:39Sean Fennessey?

  Has Nora Garrett written a film?

• 36:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, I don't know. You know what? I gotta tell you, Google AI, you really fucked me on that one.

• 36:44Sean Fennessey?

  Has she written an email?

• 36:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Writer.

• 36:46Sean Fennessey?

  Has she written a postcard?

• 36:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Upcoming, this is still actress. IMDb redesign also not helping. I don't, I don't really know what else that she has written. Okay, um, did she write Criminal Minds Behind Borders?

• 37:00Sean Fennessey?

  Congratulations to first time screenwriter Nora Garrett.

• 37:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 37:03Sean Fennessey?

  On her original, which is being adapted by Luca Guadagnino.

• 37:06Speaker 02

  And stars Julia Roberts.

• 37:07Sean Fennessey?

  Julia Roberts plays a college professor, as does Andrew Garfield, Michael Stuhlbarg, Chloe Sevigny, and I believe Iola DeBree is a student or a TA of some kind?

• 37:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 37:21Sean Fennessey?

  And there is some suggestion of impropriety.

• 37:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Correct.

• 37:25Sean Fennessey?

  And things unravel from there. This is obviously a very loaded setting, a loaded topic, a loaded filmmaker.

• 37:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 37:34Sean Fennessey?

  Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross are back for the score of this movie, I will note. Um, very excited about it. Hundred dollars.

• 37:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 37:43Sean Fennessey?

  To start our conversation.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  What's your last favorite Julia Roberts movie?

• 37:48Amanda Dobbins?

  My last favorite? Well, so I'm always glad that she's back in my life.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, so I enjoyed both Leave the World Behind and what was the, the?

• 38:01Speaker 02

  Ticket to Paradise?

• 38:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Ticket to Paradise, you know, um.

• 38:05Sean Fennessey?

  Where did you stand on Ben is Back?

• 38:07Amanda Dobbins?

  We put it in the Hall of Fame because she's really, really, really good in that very upsetting movie. That's fine. Sorry if I'm a Julia Roberts completist, you know? Sorry if I've seen it all.

• 38:16Sean Fennessey?

  Did you like her performance in Mother's Day?

• 38:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, and I actually didn't see that. And I thought you were gonna say Money Monster.

• 38:22Sean Fennessey?

  How about we do a live watch along in person on Mother's Day?

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Of Mother's Day?

• 38:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Not on Mother's Day, on Father's Day, no problem.

• 38:30Sean Fennessey?

  Should we do it in, in Atlanta?

• 38:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, no.

• 38:34Amanda Dobbins?

  No, you know, Julia Roberts, also Smyrna, Georgia.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 38:37Sean Fennessey?

  That's my point. Well, my, my, my double point.

• 38:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Uh, I, I love Julia Roberts and, but it is true that she has slowed down. She's, yeah. Also, when we did the Hall of Fame, there was like a 15 year stretch between, I think it was like maybe Notting Hill and then we didn't put anything until-

• 38:57Sean Fennessey?

  I thought she was great in Homecoming.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  She was really good in Homecoming.

• 39:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Actually, listen, she's Julia fucking Roberts, you know?

• 39:02Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 39:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, so I-

• 39:04Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, I didn't tell you, we watched, uh, by the way, it's a hundred dollars. So you might want to bid something.

• 39:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, 125.

• 39:08Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, we watched, went to the Vidiate's over the weekend to get, uh, to rent something.

• 39:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 39:15Sean Fennessey?

  And Alice pulled Mirror Mirror off the shelf.

• 39:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, boy.

• 39:18Sean Fennessey?

  Which I, speaking of Julia, I'd never seen before. And, um, honestly, not bad.

• 39:23Amanda Dobbins?

  No, she was fine.

• 39:24Sean Fennessey?

  A movie with a terrible critical reputation, directed by Tarsim Singh, who made The Cell-

• 39:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 39:29Sean Fennessey?

  And The Fall, which are both beautiful movies that are somewhat incoherent.

• 39:33Amanda Dobbins?

  That was why The Fall was one of Julia Roberts's Letterboxd four.

• 39:37Sean Fennessey?

  That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. She loves Tarsim.

• 39:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 39:39Sean Fennessey?

  And, uh, I thought Mirror Mirror was not bad. It also is-

• 39:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Who was the, who was Cinderella in that? Is that Lily?

• 39:44Sean Fennessey?

  Lily Collins.

• 39:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, it's Lily Collins. And then the Cinderella was Lily James.

• 39:48Sean Fennessey?

  Correct.

• 39:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 39:49Sean Fennessey?

  Lily Collins and, uh, Armie Hammer.

• 39:51Amanda Dobbins?

  I do remember that.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  Who's in the, which Lily is in the Riz Ahmed movie that I think looks good? Relay?

• 39:56Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, that's Lily James.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  Lily James.

• 39:58Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 39:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 39:58Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. That's the new, uh, David McKenzie movie. He of Hell or High Water fame.

• 40:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  Nobody bid on this yet. Nobody-

• 40:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, I'm 125.

• 40:06Sean Fennessey?

  125.

• 40:07Amanda Dobbins?

  That's where I am.

• 40:07Sean Fennessey?

  Are you, you're not interested in this because you don't like Julia Roberts and hate college campuses?

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Uh, I just think that it's a fool's errand to go up against the Guadalupe No Twins over here.

• 40:17Sean Fennessey?

  You don't really care about Luca.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  I thi- I think he's fine.

• 40:21Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  I liked, I liked Challengers.

• 40:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:24Amanda Dobbins?

  That's, that was not-

• 40:25Speaker 02

  And I like how much he works.

• 40:26Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 135, by the way.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I think his prolific output is cool. Yeah.

• 40:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, you don't, but where are you on?

• 40:34Sean Fennessey?

  165.

• 40:35Speaker 02

  The Peach one?

• 40:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, that's Call Me By Your Name, but what about a bigger splash? 175.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  Love that.

• 40:40Amanda Dobbins?

  I am love.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  I feel like I liked Luca Guadalupe before he became Luca Guadalupe.

• 40:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, interesting. You just punk rocked us. Yeah.

• 40:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, guess what? I like it all. So?

• 40:49Sean Fennessey?

  Um.

• 40:52Sean Fennessey?

  I said 165.

• 40:53Amanda Dobbins?

  I said 175.

• 40:54Sean Fennessey?

  185.

• 40:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 40:55Sean Fennessey?

  I think this is a big awards contender in what could be a soft year.

• 40:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 41:00Sean Fennessey?

  Now Luca, he does make movies. People are like, I don't like this.

• 41:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but that's fine. I always do. 200.

• 41:05Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. 210.

• 41:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Did you like, he did the Sisperia, right?

• 41:10Sean Fennessey?

  He did, which I.

• 41:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Did you like that?

• 41:11Speaker 02

  No, I didn't.

• 41:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, all right, well.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  No, not in a mean way.

• 41:14Sean Fennessey?

  Because of Dakota?

• 41:15Speaker 02

  I was just being definitive.

• 41:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Just, okay.

• 41:18Sean Fennessey?

  Because that's story-centered women, or what was the, what was the issue?

• 41:20Speaker 02

  There wasn't enough William Holden.

• 41:22Amanda Dobbins?

  220.

• 41:24Sean Fennessey?

  230.

• 41:25Amanda Dobbins?

  240.

• 41:27Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think Julia will be better or worse than she was in Larry Crown in this movie?

• 41:33Speaker 02

  You guys are in the twos for this.

• 41:34Amanda Dobbins?

  So I'm at 240. Yeah, I.

• 41:36Sean Fennessey?

  This is one of the big dramas of the year.

• 41:38Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm a lifetime Luca.

• 41:40Speaker 02

  You are really just stimulating at me and I was just like, you know, this is a Netflix film, so the BO is out.

• 41:47Sean Fennessey?

  No, it's not. It's an Amazon MGM film getting a theatrical release.

• 41:50Amanda Dobbins?

  You have been just like, your disinterest has been wafting towards me.

• 41:55Speaker 02

  Of, by Julia?

• 41:56Amanda Dobbins?

  And about Luca and about, you know, men in well-cut suits.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  You were very dismissive of Denis Villeneuve's early work, you know?

• 42:03Amanda Dobbins?

  That's not true. Well.

• 42:06Sean Fennessey?

  You should be forced to watch Enemy every six months, just so you understand what it's like to be a man in this world.

• 42:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Do I have it right now? Yeah, I have it. 240 is what I have right now.

• 42:14Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 250.

• 42:15Amanda Dobbins?

  260.

• 42:15Sean Fennessey?

  I haven't even been using the board. The board is so helpful.

• 42:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, um.

• 42:18Sean Fennessey?

  You went right to 260. My goodness.

• 42:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Monica Barrow. Where are you guys on this? They were at Wimbledon.

• 42:24Speaker 02

  They're both in the Sam Altman movie.

• 42:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  They're working together.

• 42:27Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, but they, did you see?

• 42:29Sean Fennessey?

  They were, yes, very dramatically photographed at Wimbledon. Yes, yeah.

• 42:31Amanda Dobbins?

  And they were canoodling in the, I don't know, it was the Royal Box or one of the boxes.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  And Olivia Rodrigo is with a guy or she's just, is she into a tennis player? There was like a video of her being like, ooh.

• 42:42Amanda Dobbins?

  No, but I think she, she was there with someone. She was on a date, I think.

• 42:45Sean Fennessey?

  You're just noting that she was also at Wimbledon? It had nothing to do with Andrew Garfield or?

• 42:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm just talking about celebrities at Wimbledon.

• 42:51Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, good for you guys.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  There's not a lot of sports on right now.

• 42:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 42:54Sean Fennessey?

  Is that hard for you?

• 42:55Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, I like the Phillies, but it just takes me a long time to rip up.

• 42:59Sean Fennessey?

  First place.

• 43:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Why are they, what's up? I understand that like Sunday night baseball or whatever, and there's like only the one game. But it like yesterday at 4:30, the end of a holiday weekend. I like, you know, we try not to put too, too much screen time for the kids, but like sports don't count. So I was like, give me something, give me anything.

• 43:18Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 43:19Amanda Dobbins?

  And there was just like nothing on, we gotta expand the programming in the summer.

• 43:22Sean Fennessey?

  WNBA. It's a travel day for baseball.

• 43:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 43:26Sean Fennessey?

  So like usually you get a lot of day games on Sunday so that people can travel on Sunday evenings.

• 43:30Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, but like just for until football starts, you know?

• 43:34Sean Fennessey?

  I hear you. I love an afternoon ballgame.

• 43:37Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 43:37Amanda Dobbins?

  I couldn't even get like a restream of the Wimbledon that I wasn't awake for.

• 43:41Sean Fennessey?

  Might've been a lot of West Coast teams on the East Coast as well.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  You can get it on ESPN plus.

• 43:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay, but I, if I don't have that, I'm insulted at this point because of how much I'm paying, so.

• 43:52Sean Fennessey?

  Fair enough.

• 43:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 43:53Sean Fennessey?

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you have that for the hunt.

• 43:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, thanks so much. Okay, great. I'm so excited.

• 43:56Sean Fennessey?

  I know that you'd like to have that.

• 43:57Amanda Dobbins?

  I really, really hope that I get to see Julia Roberts on the red carpet at Venice, but I don't want to meet her. Um, I already met her once. It was great and very stressful and that's enough for a lifetime.

• 44:08Sean Fennessey?

  Was it stressful? She was super normal and nice.

• 44:09Amanda Dobbins?

  She was wonderful. She was the best, but I don't, I, I was.

• 44:12Sean Fennessey?

  I asked her about Larry Crown. She answered my question deeply.

• 44:15Amanda Dobbins?

  I asked her about, about dancing, um, and stirrup pants.

• 44:19Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, you, you now have to, have to pick a movie.

• 44:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Wow. Uh, all right, so I got the Luca.

• 44:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Do, do, do, do.

• 44:30Sean Fennessey?

  Is this like an exciting slate for the rest of the year? What do you think?

• 44:33Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm not seeing a lot of box office pop.

• 44:36Sean Fennessey?

  Well, that would lead to you having to pick a movie that maybe we're unsure about. Now, I think I had a rule, at least for myself, that I wouldn't draft something that I've already seen.

• 44:45Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 44:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 44:46Sean Fennessey?

  So that takes a couple of things off the board for me.

• 44:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 44:49Sean Fennessey?

  Of note, not a lot, but it does not take off, for example, Superman.

• 44:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 44:56Sean Fennessey?

  Or the Fantastic Four.

• 44:57Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't, I don't think I'm gonna.

• 44:58Sean Fennessey?

  I haven't seen either of those.

• 44:58Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm not gonna draft Superman.

• 44:59Speaker 02

  Do you think that we're getting away from like just expressing enthusiasm for certain movies? If we put too much emphasis on box office? No, I guess not. We're fine.

• 45:09Sean Fennessey?

  Um, what do you, what do you, like too much in the game, you mean?

• 45:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:13Sean Fennessey?

  No, I think it's a component of the show.

• 45:15Amanda Dobbins?

  I, I, we're doing Snake, right? So I have to do two. Jack? Yeah, Jack is nodding.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 45:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 45:20Sean Fennessey?

  Can we do Snake?

• 45:21Speaker 02

  I, it doesn't matter.

• 45:22Amanda Dobbins?

  We don't have to.

• 45:23Speaker 02

  Cause we're bidding, so it's like.

• 45:24Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm trying to clarify on, do I have?

• 45:27Sean Fennessey?

  I don't remember if we did that.

• 45:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, well, what would you like to do today, Sean? Let's live in the moment.

• 45:32Sean Fennessey?

  You've just gotten after the hunt. I need you to be a little bit kinder in this experience. And just consider warmth. Consider reaching out across the aisle from the Marjorie Taylor Greene seat to the side of good.

• 45:45Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't think that's funny.

• 45:47Sean Fennessey?

  Unfortunately, you're alone in that. There are millions at home just thinking to themselves, what an accurate.

• 45:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. It's.

• 45:55Speaker 02

  They're having a good chuckle.

• 45:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, well, I'm, I'm glad. Everyone needs laughter, I guess. Okay, let's make it interesting.

• 46:02Sean Fennessey?

  Uh. Wow.

• 46:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Hundred bucks Avatar Fire and whatever. I don't even know the full name.

• 46:08Sean Fennessey?

  Fire and Ash.

• 46:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Fire and Ash. Okay.

• 46:10Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go buck twenty. I've never seen an Avatar movie, so why not start?

• 46:16Amanda Dobbins?

  What? Really?

• 46:17Speaker 02

  I think I saw a little bit of the first one.

• 46:19Sean Fennessey?

  There's only been two.

• 46:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, you didn't, you, you didn't go.

• 46:22Speaker 02

  No, couldn't care less. It just seems like an incredibly giant waste of resources and talent, honestly. The dumbest shit I've ever seen is fucking getting Sam Worthington as a six foot five small forward who breathes underwater. Give me a fucking break. Are you kidding me? This is one of the greatest filmmakers we've ever seen, who has wasted his fucking life making these movies.

• 46:48Sean Fennessey?

  Uh huh.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  The, the dumbest fucking idea.

• 46:52Amanda Dobbins?

  I just, I agree with this.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  I'm forty seven. I don't have the time to learn all this new shit.

• 46:58Amanda Dobbins?

  But also, yes.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  But I need a box office hit, so I'm gonna go one forty.

• 47:04Sean Fennessey?

  Um.

• 47:04Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna see this. I'm gonna see Fire and Ash because I am into.

• 47:07Amanda Dobbins?

  But you're not gonna see the other two.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  I've become more interested in Fire the older I get and Ash, so I think that also, who's new in this? Winslet, was she in the last one?

• 47:17Sean Fennessey?

  She was.

• 47:18Amanda Dobbins?

  She's in the last one. She has the, she has the.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  World record, yeah, for holding her breath.

• 47:22Sean Fennessey?

  But you think that these movies are stupid, but you haven't seen any of them.

• 47:25Speaker 02

  I know what they're about, though. I've seen most of one.

• 47:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Can you guess?

• 47:28Sean Fennessey?

  You love James Cameron. You wouldn't even try it.

• 47:31Speaker 02

  This is a fucking giant betrayal of his.

• 47:33Sean Fennessey?

  You haven't seen the movie!

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Okay, fine, Sean. Is it good?

• 47:37Sean Fennessey?

  Of course it's good!

• 47:38Speaker 02

  Okay, outside of the visual aspect, the, the, the technological achievement.

• 47:43Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, their fables.

• 47:43Amanda Dobbins?

  They're fables. They're ecological fables. It's fun. Yeah. We like the earth. What do you think the world record is for holding her breath?

• 47:50Speaker 02

  Seven minutes.

• 47:51Amanda Dobbins?

  It's seven minutes, 15 seconds. Okay, that was, I was hoping you would guess like three minutes.

• 47:54Speaker 02

  I usually get.

• 47:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Seven minutes is a long time.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  The way you find world records is take what you can do and multiply it by three.

• 48:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, so you can do two minutes, you think?

• 48:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:03Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, God.

• 48:04Amanda Dobbins?

  When was the last time you checked that?

• 48:04Sean Fennessey?

  I couldn't get close to that at this point. Yeah.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  It's been a while, but I could, I think I could do two minutes.

• 48:08Amanda Dobbins?

  I gotta tell you, so I do like.

• 48:10Sean Fennessey?

  Let's test it out.

• 48:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I know.

• 48:11Sean Fennessey?

  Bring in the water.

• 48:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Waterboard Chris. No, but I do the, you know, the ice cubes, the thing.

• 48:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, sure. The Paul Newman.

• 48:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, the Paul Newman thing.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  Cause you're hungover?

• 48:22Amanda Dobbins?

  No, well, I started doing it when I was pregnant.

• 48:24Sean Fennessey?

  It's for skin health.

• 48:25Amanda Dobbins?

  It was like very swollen. Um, but, but no.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  Wellness just takes over all the cool shit.

• 48:30Sean Fennessey?

  I agree. This is for guys who want to drink nine Scotches. This is not for women who need to take low on YouTube.

• 48:37Amanda Dobbins?

  It is suddenly, we've got like a nine 30 a.m. record time. I'm like, fuck, I'm 40, I'm on YouTube. I need to dunk my head in a bucket of ice water. But I couldn't even make it to counting to 30 this morning. Now, it is very cold.

• 48:49Sean Fennessey?

  Cold water.

• 48:50Amanda Dobbins?

  It is true. So, so you would, you think you can do two minutes at like average?

• 48:55Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 48:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 48:56Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 48:56Sean Fennessey?

  What did you think of the fact that William Holden's face looked like an old shoe in, in The Wild Bunch? Just like a guy who'd been left in the sun for several years.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  I also forgot that, I forgot about the flashback scenes in Wild Bunch and the fact that they're like, let's just shave his mustache. That means he's young.

• 49:11Sean Fennessey?

  There's a black like pomade in his hair, you know, the like shoe, shoe shine. Um, okay.

• 49:18Speaker 02

  I picked.

• 49:18Sean Fennessey?

  Is it 140?

• 49:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 49:20Sean Fennessey?

  140. I'll say 150. I mean, these movies are good. They're obviously very flawed by the simplistic nature of the fable.

• 49:27Amanda Dobbins?

  He says so.

• 49:27Sean Fennessey?

  He says that, but that seems unlikely.

• 49:29Amanda Dobbins?

  But now he's also making, you know.

• 49:31Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, Oppenheimer two.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  The Ghost of the Machine.

• 49:33Sean Fennessey?

  The real Armageddon. Yeah.

• 49:36Speaker 02

  I'll do 170.

• 49:37Sean Fennessey?

  So you you're not gonna watch the first two films, but you will watch this one.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Well, maybe it's a good project. It'll be a good fall project is to get into, I think I got it broadly, you know, that human beings are jacked into this fucking different world, right? Right? They have like a little thing in their back.

• 49:55Sean Fennessey?

  I don't want to spoil it for you. I mean, things evolve around the technology is what I'll tell you.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  All right. So the second one is more surfing underwater, right?

• 50:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 50:04Sean Fennessey?

  An aspect of it, yes.

• 50:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, and then the third one, we're gonna go.

• 50:06Amanda Dobbins?

  What is the other aspect?

• 50:09Sean Fennessey?

  The the the people from Earth who want to take over the land.

• 50:14Speaker 02

  Which is Giovanni Ribisi.

• 50:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, I forgot about them.

• 50:16Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  It still exists.

• 50:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, Ribisi, yeah.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  And Sigourney, is she good?

• 50:20Sean Fennessey?

  She is.

• 50:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 50:21Sean Fennessey?

  Well, but yeah, I don't want to, but there's something complicated that, you know, it's weird. The second one is quite strange and really good, but also not rewatchable.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Okay, I'll watch it for the first time.

• 50:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Can you watch it on one of the things?

• 50:33Speaker 02

  Apple Vision Pro?

• 50:34Amanda Dobbins?

  What happened with those? Those still happening?

• 50:35Sean Fennessey?

  You can still buy them, but they're not, they didn't really take off as a consumer product.

• 50:39Amanda Dobbins?

  It was pretty heavy. You'll, you need to get a neck support.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:43Amanda Dobbins?

  So do you need, you need a second, we need two box office hits?

• 50:47Sean Fennessey?

  We need, well, the old rules were you needed two movies to gross more than $100 million.

• 50:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 50:52Sean Fennessey?

  But the only way to score points now is to have a high grosser. Now, this is a good pick. I'll say 180, by the way. This would be a good pick because these movies always make a billion dollars. They always make hundreds of millions of dollars in the United States.

• 51:05Amanda Dobbins?

  But he has sinners.

• 51:06Sean Fennessey?

  He has sinners.

• 51:07Amanda Dobbins?

  But he needs another?

• 51:08Sean Fennessey?

  Well, it's just a point total.

• 51:10Speaker 02

  I think also the fact that there's a lot of like streaming stuff or a lot of the the critic stuff, as Sean pointed out, with Netflix, might not get any box office. Who knows? Like, it could come and go. Like, one of the problems of those streaming movies is sometimes it's like, oh, it's, it just just happened. It's just out.

• 51:27Sean Fennessey?

  Yes. You've also got to consider what's going to be the highest grossing domestic film.

• 51:31Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll do 190.

• 51:33Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I'll say 200. I think we, I mean, this is an important movie to the movie year.

• 51:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 51:37Sean Fennessey?

  And not to Cameron's legacy or anything, but these movies always get a ton of Academy Award nominations. So.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  I think it would be more helpful for him for the Academy Awards if he promised this would be the last one.

• 51:50Speaker 02

  And it would be more helpful to me.

• 51:51Sean Fennessey?

  That's fair. Okay.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  Cause I, it's a big difference between me being like, I'll catch up on three of these and, and have like a more well-informed opinion versus this is gonna be a fiver. Because I'm out.

• 52:04Sean Fennessey?

  So this is a, this is kinda similar to where the first two Lord of the Rings movies were, in my opinion. Where the, like, the last film got Best Picture and then just Sound, Production Design and Visual Effects. Will this movie get more nominations? Less? Is it actually a serious contender for Picture? I don't know. I will say. You didn't see the footage from this, right?

• 52:25Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I left.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  You're like, it's mind blowing, right?

• 52:27Sean Fennessey?

  I mean, I thought it was fucking amazing. Now, I, I already like these movies and I love them visually. But obviously Fire is a different element applied to the story and I thought it just looked really, really cool. So I'm, I'm very excited about this.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  I'll go 210.

• 52:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Guess I'll go 220?

• 52:44Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 230.

• 52:45Speaker 02

  I'll do 240.

• 52:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 52:47Sean Fennessey?

  I'll, I'll do 250. This is a movie I wanna see. There's actually not a ton of movies on this list that I'm like, I really wanna see this in a big movie theater.

• 52:56Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, if we're, if we're applying that, then I don't really, I don't really wanna see it that much. I mean, I will. I'm sure.

• 53:06Sean Fennessey?

  That's not the only metric. Personally, I like to have movies on my slate that I wanna see.

• 53:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I respect Big Jim, but also, you know, I'm kinda with Chris on this. I just, like, also how much time we've collectively spent.

• 53:18Sean Fennessey?

  Would you be like, if he was making another Alien movie, would you be happy about that?

• 53:22Amanda Dobbins?

  I guess.

• 53:23Sean Fennessey?

  True Lies 2?

• 53:23Amanda Dobbins?

  So? I mean.

• 53:26Sean Fennessey?

  It's like, think of the alternative. He created new IP. This is a new story.

• 53:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Does anybody, like, oh, I can't wait to iterate off of the Avatar story?

• 53:35Sean Fennessey?

  No, I just mean, it's an, it's an original event movie. It's the hardest thing to do in the world.

• 53:39Amanda Dobbins?

  What happens with their braids?

• 53:41Sean Fennessey?

  That's how they, uh, communicate and mate.

• 53:43Amanda Dobbins?

  That is how they mate.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  I knew that part.

• 53:48Sean Fennessey?

  Probably because I told you one time when we were about to watch a movie about two guys getting ready to kill each other. So here's what happens, Chris, like, their hair, like, intertwines.

• 53:59Sean Fennessey?

  I'll, I'll happily take this movie for 250.

• 54:01Speaker 02

  260.

• 54:02Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  You're getting annoyed because you think I'm beating you up, but I'm not. I am interested.

• 54:05Sean Fennessey?

  You put it on the board.

• 54:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:06Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 270.

• 54:09Sean Fennessey?

  I would like to see it. How many noms did the first film get?

• 54:14Speaker 02

  275, but you're gonna jump up there.

• 54:17Sean Fennessey?

  Nine nominations for the first film.

• 54:21Speaker 02

  Not so many for the second?

• 54:22Sean Fennessey?

  280, I'll say.

• 54:24Amanda Dobbins?

  You're what's wrong with Hollywood, though.

• 54:26Sean Fennessey?

  What do you mean? I'm what's wrong with Hollywood? You just proclaimed that Jurassic World Rebirth was good publicly.

• 54:32Amanda Dobbins?

  That was about real things. Didn't say it was good. I said it was not bad and I had fun.

• 54:37Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, fun, which is code for I've turned my brain off and I expect less.

• 54:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but you do that all the time. It's just when you do it about, you know, genre movies that you like.

• 54:48Sean Fennessey?

  Yep.

• 54:49Amanda Dobbins?

  It's fine.

• 54:50Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, they call it taste.

• 54:52Amanda Dobbins?

  And when I do it.

• 54:52Sean Fennessey?

  It's called taste.

• 54:53Amanda Dobbins?

  I have the best taste of anyone, you know? It's like, it's actually incredible how good my taste is.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Do you think you, I don't want to get into this, actually. So I'll do 290.

• 55:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Ooh.

• 55:06Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, 300.

• 55:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  I'll step out. I'll step there. I wanted to get you high up there.

• 55:13Sean Fennessey?

  Not 3,000. Come on, guys. 300.

• 55:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 55:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Congratulations, Steve.

• 55:19Sean Fennessey?

  Thank you, thank you. I feel good about this. I feel like I needed this.

• 55:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 55:23Sean Fennessey?

  I don't really have another.

• 55:24Amanda Dobbins?

  So I need to do another one?

• 55:25Sean Fennessey?

  Big box office winner. I don't, maybe it'll get good reviews.

• 55:29Speaker 02

  Wait, who put up Avatar, him?

• 55:31Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I did.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  You did.

• 55:32Amanda Dobbins?

  But do I have this take or not? I don't care.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  No, you got it.

• 55:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Are there two, are there not? It's fine.

• 55:38Speaker 02

  You're right. You're doing a great job so far.

• 55:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you so much.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  And obviously to have the best taste of any human being on planet Earth.

• 55:50Amanda Dobbins?

  I just, you know.

• 55:51Sean Fennessey?

  So Avatar had an 83 Metacritic score and Avatar: The Way of Water had a 67 Metacritic score.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, you think it's gonna rebound?

• 55:59Sean Fennessey?

  Probably not, but you never know. Hopefully it's on the 50s.

• 56:04Amanda Dobbins?

  What should I do? I mean, some of these movies look good, you know?

• 56:10Sean Fennessey?

  Bold stance.

• 56:11Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm open to them.

• 56:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Let's see.

• 56:16Sean Fennessey?

  Did you see the Knicks are strongly considering Ben Simmons?

• 56:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh my god, are they really? LOL, that's funny. Even I know that's funny. Even I know that guy doesn't show up to work.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  You guys are getting dapped up a little too much right now.

• 56:27Sean Fennessey?

  Oh.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  Don't get too ahead of yourselves. As someone who's been there, presumptive Eastern Conference finalists, etc.

• 56:35Sean Fennessey?

  As I recall, you have not been to the Eastern Conference Finals.

• 56:38Speaker 02

  Just, just enjoy what happened last year is all I'm saying.

• 56:42Amanda Dobbins?

  What's this Rami Malek movie? I mean, not that I'm in it.

• 56:45Sean Fennessey?

  Should I pull up the...

• 56:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh geez, oh my god, I'm really not gonna do that.

• 56:49Sean Fennessey?

  The contracts of your biggest stars?

• 56:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm well aware. We're in a transition phase. We're moving towards a younger generation of players while still having some veteran leadership in the building.

• 57:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Seventy-five dollars, Roofman.

• 57:04Sean Fennessey?

  Roofman.

• 57:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  Derek C. and Fritz.

• 57:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 57:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. They put a lot of this movie in the trailer. Just gonna say that.

• 57:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  I felt like.

• 57:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 57:12Speaker 02

  But I thought it looked cool and, and fun. And I love Derek C. and Fritz a lot. Everything from his dick sporting goods commercials to Place Beyond the Pines. So I'm gonna bid eighty bucks.

• 57:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 57:25Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, eighty-five dollars. This will almost certainly be a fun time at the movies. Will it be a good time at the movies?

• 57:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh boy, here we go.

• 57:34Sean Fennessey?

  We don't know.

• 57:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Concern troll Sean.

• 57:36Sean Fennessey?

  We don't know.

• 57:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 57:36Sean Fennessey?

  I think so.

• 57:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 57:38Sean Fennessey?

  Good star.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Channing Tatum.

• 57:39Sean Fennessey?

  Good cast.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  Kirsten Dunst.

• 57:41Amanda Dobbins?

  It was Chris who did eighty-five, right?

• 57:42Sean Fennessey?

  Kirsten Dunst.

• 57:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Chris was eighty-five?

• 57:45Sean Fennessey?

  I think Chris went to eighty and I went to eighty-five.

• 57:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, you went to eighty-five? Oh, great. Oh, that was fast. Um, ninety, sure.

• 57:50Sean Fennessey?

  Kirsten Dunst, uh, yes.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  Who's the other guy?

• 57:53Sean Fennessey?

  Channing Tatum.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  Is there another guy in it? Clemens?

• 57:56Sean Fennessey?

  No, I believe it's, um... Oh my god, Tyrion from Lord of the Rings.

• 58:01Speaker 02

  Oh, Dinklage.

• 58:02Sean Fennessey?

  Dinklage, not Lord of the Rings, from Game of Thrones. Peter Dinklage is in it. Who else?

• 58:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Ben Mendelsohn is in it?

• 58:07Sean Fennessey?

  Of course.

• 58:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 58:08Sean Fennessey?

  Of course, gotta be in it.

• 58:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Keith Stanfield, Jono Temple.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  Ben Mendelsohn in Place Beyond the Pines? Holy shit, man.

• 58:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 58:17Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, the only thing that's better is him in Killing Me Softly.

• 58:21Speaker 02

  Did you ever watch Andor?

• 58:25Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 58:25Speaker 02

  Remember you were gonna watch that on the plane when you went to Atlanta?

• 58:28Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 58:29Amanda Dobbins?

  What happened? What'd you watch on the plane instead?

• 58:32Sean Fennessey?

  I had no internet on the way there and I forgot to download it.

• 58:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 58:37Sean Fennessey?

  I probably watched a movie on the seat.

• 58:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 58:41Sean Fennessey?

  I'm trying to think of what I could probably look it up if you'd like, if you'd like to vamp.

• 58:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, but so it wasn't Andor. I didn't, I haven't done Andor yet either. I have a lot of catch up.

• 58:52Sean Fennessey?

  The less said about my trip to Atlanta, the better, in my opinion.

• 58:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Except for the lovely people that you met, right?

• 58:57Sean Fennessey?

  Honestly, the people were awesome. I really had a nice time chatting with strangers there, but everything else is bad.

• 59:02Amanda Dobbins?

  I got to Andor, I'm behind on Andor just like that.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  Did you finish The Bear?

• 59:05Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I gotta finish The Bear.

• 59:07Sean Fennessey?

  You know what I watched?

• 59:08Speaker 02

  I gotta tell you something, Amanda. Honestly, go ahead.

• 59:10Sean Fennessey?

  Snow White.

• 59:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 59:12Speaker 02

  We have to have a serious conversation about what's going on with Carrie and Miranda on this fucking show.

• 59:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, I know, I have to catch up, but it almost got spoiled for me. Apparently, they like accidentally, they've killed someone twice now or something. I don't really know what's going, there were plot holes. Listen, I'm gonna do it tonight.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:25Amanda Dobbins?

  He is going to see the new Spike Lee film with my husband and I am staying home, preparing a zucchini pasta and watching Andor just like that.

• 59:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:34Amanda Dobbins?

  So, that's.

• 59:35Sean Fennessey?

  Women can't have it all.

• 59:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Do you know they have a face mask?

• 59:41Amanda Dobbins?

  I honestly was thinking about it. It's maybe time for my Manuka Honey face mask again, so.

• 59:45Sean Fennessey?

  This is a huge night. This is incredible. A real Roof Man night. Ninety-five dollars for Roof Man.

• 59:51Amanda Dobbins?

  You don't have feelings?

• 59:52Speaker 02

  I.

• 59:53Sean Fennessey?

  I think Roof Man will get any Oscar noms.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  I don't know where I'm at with Channing right now.

• 59:57Sean Fennessey?

  He is actually weirdly in what I'll call the Statham zone, which is that he has a fan base that will kind of get him to thirty million dollars at the box office.

• 1:00:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:06Sean Fennessey?

  Pretty much every time out.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  Like, he's like, "Yeah, I made a movie with the dog."

• 1:00:09Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  And people are like.

• 1:00:09Sean Fennessey?

  People are like, "I like that. That seems cool."

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:13Sean Fennessey?

  In this movie, he plays a bank robber who's incarcerated, breaks out, and then holes up? Hides out?

• 1:00:19Speaker 02

  Hides out.

• 1:00:20Sean Fennessey?

  In a Toys R Us.

• 1:00:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:22Sean Fennessey?

  Toys R Us, probably the single most exciting place in the universe to me from the ages of one to nine.

• 1:00:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Were you a Toys R Us person, Chris Ryan?

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  Uh, I was, but.

• 1:00:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow. See, I knew, I knew that this was, yeah.

• 1:00:32Speaker 02

  I, I was.

• 1:00:33Sean Fennessey?

  Until you discovered hip hop and.

• 1:00:35Amanda Dobbins?

  What toys did you like?

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Star Wars dolls, like Star Wars action figures?

• 1:00:40Amanda Dobbins?

  I will.

• 1:00:41Speaker 02

  And Transformers?

• 1:00:42Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll do a hundred for Roofman. I put, listen, and that's all for Kiki. Ninety-nine of my hundred dollars is for Kirsten Dunst.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:00:50Amanda Dobbins?

  And then the other one is-

• 1:00:51Speaker 02

  But she didn't support her in Civil War.

• 1:00:53Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting that it shook out.

• 1:00:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Alex Garland didn't support her, you know?

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Yes, he did.

• 1:00:57Sean Fennessey?

  He cast her and-

• 1:00:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, it's true.

• 1:01:00Sean Fennessey?

  He put her in the biggest box office hit of her career.

• 1:01:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Is that true? Even beyond, even Bring It On?

• 1:01:08Sean Fennessey?

  Definitely bigger than Bring It On. Let's look.

• 1:01:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Rude.

• 1:01:11Sean Fennessey?

  Well, Bring It On was more of a cult hit.

• 1:01:12Amanda Dobbins?

  That's true. It's, but what an achievement it is.

• 1:01:14Sean Fennessey?

  Was she ever in a big franchise movie? She must have been.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  Are we giving this to Amanda?

• 1:01:18Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, sure.

• 1:01:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:01:19Sean Fennessey?

  Well, of course, she was in Spider-Man. What am I thinking?

• 1:01:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  You got two of the movies that I feel like are very you, you-

• 1:01:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  oriented, you coded.

• 1:01:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you so much.

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  I guess Sean then you're up?

• 1:01:32Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, yes, I'm up. She was, she was in, here are her biggest box office hits, just for the sake of conversation. The three Spider-Man movies, of course. Hidden Figures?

• 1:01:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:40Sean Fennessey?

  In which she supported-

• 1:01:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, she's the racist administrator at the, at NASA.

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  Kirsten Dunst is a racist?

• 1:01:47Amanda Dobbins?

  In that movie? In the movie. In the movie. And then, but then Glenn Powell as John Glenn is not.

• 1:01:54Sean Fennessey?

  This is really interesting.

• 1:01:55Speaker 02

  You know where she wasn't racist of war?

• 1:01:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Kevin Costner is on the case and then-

• 1:01:58Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, so, so-

• 1:01:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Is on the fence.

• 1:01:59Sean Fennessey?

  You were right about something.

• 1:02:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:01Sean Fennessey?

  Interview with the Vampire comes next, then Jumanji.

• 1:02:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:04Sean Fennessey?

  Then Civil War.

• 1:02:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:02:05Sean Fennessey?

  But only by $400,000 about Bring It On.

• 1:02:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. And is that adjusted for inflation?

• 1:02:11Sean Fennessey?

  Um, no. It is not, but you gotta, if you want to consider international-

• 1:02:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Great hair. The boys all love to stare. That's right. Yeah. Incredible film. When will you show it to Alice? When can I show it to Alice?

• 1:02:24Sean Fennessey?

  That feels a little early.

• 1:02:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:02:25Sean Fennessey?

  I would say for Bring It On.

• 1:02:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 1:02:27Sean Fennessey?

  She turns four this week, you know?

• 1:02:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Lessons, you know?

• 1:02:30Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, yeah, absolutely. I support them.

• 1:02:32Amanda Dobbins?

  What were your favorite toys? Set Toys R Us. So Star Wars, that's it?

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  BMX bikes.

• 1:02:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:02:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Do you know what a Tamagotchi is?

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  I do.

• 1:02:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:02:46Speaker 02

  You don't have to say it like that. No, I just do.

• 1:02:48Amanda Dobbins?

  All right.

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  Have you started introducing those to the house?

• 1:02:50Amanda Dobbins?

  No, Jack didn't know, so I had to explain what Tamagotchi are. You know about Labubus?

• 1:02:56Speaker 02

  I heard it referenced recently. I don't know what that is, though.

• 1:03:00Amanda Dobbins?

  It's a, it's a bag charm. That's like, but they're Beanie Baby like level prices and interest.

• 1:03:06Speaker 02

  Kids put stuff on Crocs and bags now.

• 1:03:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  Charms I saw.

• 1:03:10Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, that's all over the place. It's a lot.

• 1:03:14Sean Fennessey?

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• 1:03:52Sean Fennessey?

  I'm putting weapons on the board.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  Remember when we used to wear Jordans instead of Crocs, you know?

• 1:03:56Sean Fennessey?

  Used to. Still wearing Jordans.

• 1:03:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Knox has Jordans. He hasn't shown you his Jordans?

• 1:04:01Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:04:01Amanda Dobbins?

  He likes to say Jordans, but the way he says R is like very weird still because he's my son. It's like, I'm wearing Jordans. That's Michael Jordan.

• 1:04:10Sean Fennessey?

  I'll have to speak to him about that. Uh, $50 for weapons.

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  $150.

• 1:04:15Sean Fennessey?

  $150.

• 1:04:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Here we go.

• 1:04:17Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 1:04:17Sean Fennessey?

  This is the second, I guess technically the third feature film from Zach Craig or first since Barbarian.

• 1:04:25Speaker 02

  This is the movie I'm most excited to see this, this not one battle after another, but otherwise.

• 1:04:31Sean Fennessey?

  This is number one.

• 1:04:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:33Sean Fennessey?

  After one battle after another.

• 1:04:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, number two.

• 1:04:35Sean Fennessey?

  I see. Not Springsteen delivering me from nowhere.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  We'll, we'll talk about that in a bit.

• 1:04:40Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, $200.

• 1:04:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, game on.

• 1:04:44Speaker 02

  Did you check out the viral website that they made for this?

• 1:04:48Sean Fennessey?

  I did not.

• 1:04:48Speaker 02

  I didn't yet either.

• 1:04:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, let's do it right now. Weapons, movie, website. Well.

• 1:04:54Sean Fennessey?

  Loves to spoil.

• 1:04:54Speaker 02

  Just two guys trying to stay in a state of wonder.

• 1:04:57Sean Fennessey?

  I was super mad when the trailer started for this.

• 1:05:00Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm not trying to stay in a state of wonder. Oh, hold on. Uh, this, I honestly can't agree with this right now. I'm really sorry. Like, it's, this is, I'm sure it's a really good movie. No disrespect to Zach Craig, or just like, uh, I, no thanks, uh, topic wise.

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  Uh, $225.

• 1:05:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:05:19Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:05:19Amanda Dobbins?

  I think that you are, you're both.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  If this pops.

• 1:05:23Amanda Dobbins?

  You handle your, your issues in different ways, and that's okay.

• 1:05:26Sean Fennessey?

  What issues? I just want to be excited. I just want to be, sit down and feel deep.

• 1:05:30Speaker 02

  I want to be dominated.

• 1:05:31Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:32Speaker 02

  By film.

• 1:05:32Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:05:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, alright.

• 1:05:34Sean Fennessey?

  Zach Craig put on a high heel and step on Chris's neck.

• 1:05:38Speaker 02

  Uh, 225, is that what I have?

• 1:05:41Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:05:41Speaker 02

  Uh, where does he go after this? If this is, if this blows up?

• 1:05:45Sean Fennessey?

  He already signed up to do Resident Evil.

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 1:05:47Sean Fennessey?

  He's doing Resident Evil.

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  Mikey Madison in that?

• 1:05:50Sean Fennessey?

  Um, I believe she, what does she turn, she turned down Star Wars?

• 1:05:55Speaker 02

  For that?

• 1:05:55Sean Fennessey?

  To do that? Is that true?

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  I mean, I think in the Star Wars movie, she was just gonna be like, looking at Ryan Gosling and being like, you're so cool.

• 1:06:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, show me the lie.

• 1:06:06Sean Fennessey?

  Would you do that?

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  They're not gonna rush up.

• 1:06:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Would I stare at?

• 1:06:08Sean Fennessey?

  Sean Levy calls you.

• 1:06:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I would giggle. I like, I couldn't do it. I would just giggle if it were Ryan Gosling.

• 1:06:14Sean Fennessey?

  Monday, 9 a.m.

• 1:06:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:06:16Sean Fennessey?

  You've just removed your face from an ice cold bowl.

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  You reek of zucchini from the night before.

• 1:06:22Sean Fennessey?

  You're covered in pasta. Children are crawling all over you, and Sean Levy says,

• 1:06:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:06:29Sean Fennessey?

  "Good morning, Amanda."

• 1:06:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 1:06:30Sean Fennessey?

  "I'm glad you have awoken. You may still feel as though you were sleeping because I am the dream weaver."

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  Beautiful skin.

• 1:06:36Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:06:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you.

• 1:06:37Speaker 02

  We think you would be great next to Ryan Gosling.

• 1:06:39Sean Fennessey?

  You will, you will only be on your knees for the entirety of this film.

• 1:06:43Amanda Dobbins?

  What? Okay.

• 1:06:43Sean Fennessey?

  But you will be genuflecting in the general direction

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:06:46Sean Fennessey?

  Of our star Jedi, Ryan Gosling, in the first new Star Wars feature film in seven years.

• 1:06:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Two follow-up questions. Am I allowed to ask follow-up questions of Sean Levy?

• 1:06:59Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know how he negotiates. I'm not sure.

• 1:07:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Is it like a Miranda Priestly situation?

• 1:07:04Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know. I can't say for sure.

• 1:07:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Number one. Where? Where are we filming?

• 1:07:09Speaker 02

  Probably Turkey, or like, Hungary. Hungary. Hungary.

• 1:07:14Sean Fennessey?

  Hungary. No, in England.

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  England.

• 1:07:17Sean Fennessey?

  We're shooting in England.

• 1:07:17Speaker 02

  Pinewood.

• 1:07:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, we're shooting at Pinewood.

• 1:07:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, open to that. Number two, what's, you know, what's the money?

• 1:07:24Sean Fennessey?

  Your salary is 88 bucks.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Money, your money talks for you, huh?

• 1:07:30Amanda Dobbins?

  88 dollars?

• 1:07:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:30Amanda Dobbins?

  No!

• 1:07:31Sean Fennessey?

  Your salary is whatever is remaining from your draft slate. No, your salary is more than scale, but less than an A-list star.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:39Sean Fennessey?

  You're getting $800,000 to do this, but you have to turn over two-plus years of your lives, including reshoots.

• 1:07:45Amanda Dobbins?

  For, so $800,000 for two years, so 400K a year?

• 1:07:49Sean Fennessey?

  If you want to break it down like that, sure. That's not how it works in the movie biz.

• 1:07:53Amanda Dobbins?

  I understand that, but that is how, listen, I'm, I'm, like, I'm a business mom, okay?

• 1:07:58Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I got it. You've got to promote the film.

• 1:08:00Speaker 02

  10% to your representation, you know?

• 1:08:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, right, right, right. You gotta talk to me through...

• 1:08:06Sean Fennessey?

  That's low.

• 1:08:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Are you handling all of my kids and like my family's, like, housing?

• 1:08:13Speaker 02

  We're making Star Wars.

• 1:08:14Sean Fennessey?

  You don't have leverage to negotiate that.

• 1:08:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, then, no.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:08:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:08:17Sean Fennessey?

  You're turning it down on the face of that.

• 1:08:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I can't go to, I can't go stare at Ryan Gosling for two years without my children?

• 1:08:24Sean Fennessey?

  It's great timing, because I've just gotten word that in Atlanta, they will greenlight the Mother's Day screening that we discussed because of your response to that question. So congratulations, well done.

• 1:08:37Sean Fennessey?

  250?

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  260.

• 1:08:41Sean Fennessey?

  We're still bidding on weapons, 270. I'd really like to see it. I would like to show it to me. I don't know why I haven't been shown this film. I'm just gonna put that out there right now.

• 1:08:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:08:48Speaker 02

  Did you ever watch Ozark?

• 1:08:50Amanda Dobbins?

  No, but I listened to you talk about it quite a bit.

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  You know the Julia Garner meme?

• 1:08:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Which one?

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  If you want to stop me, you're gonna have to fucking kill me.

• 1:08:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I do know that one, yeah.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  275.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  Just a little jab right in the chin, right there. Not, not big, just like testing my distance.

• 1:09:08Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. And you're hoping that I go for the uppercut only for you to shadow, duck and move.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  Mike Tyson's knockout.

• 1:09:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Punch out. I'm just thinking about like what number I would leave my children for. Well, you know, at some point.

• 1:09:24Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think about that every day?

• 1:09:25Amanda Dobbins?

  No, no, no. At some point then like I can handle the, if they give me enough money, then I'll just pay for all of this stuff, you know? But I don't know if 400 is enough for that respectfully.

• 1:09:36Speaker 02

  Steel Magnolias 2. Julia Roberts comes back as a forced ghost. The problem is, I'll pay you $2 million, but you have to live in Atlanta for two years.

• 1:09:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  And it's you and Kacey Musgraves and.

• 1:09:52Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, she seems like a great hair.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Julia Garner are the new Steel Magnolias.

• 1:09:56Sean Fennessey?

  I love the Kacey Musgraves call. That's excellent.

• 1:09:58Speaker 02

  But you also have, you can't see your children.

• 1:10:01Amanda Dobbins?

  But in Atlanta, they would just stay with their grandparents?

• 1:10:03Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 1:10:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, then no.

• 1:10:05Sean Fennessey?

  It's a close set.

• 1:10:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Because it's a close set, so.

• 1:10:10Sean Fennessey?

  It's very secretive.

• 1:10:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. Codename Star Wars.

• 1:10:13Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  But it's actually Steel Magnolias 2.

• 1:10:17Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, 285.

• 1:10:19Speaker 02

  300.

• 1:10:21Sean Fennessey?

  You really want this film? What if you don't like it?

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  It's not possible. It's about fucked up kids.

• 1:10:27Sean Fennessey?

  Uh huh.

• 1:10:28Speaker 02

  Those kids are fucked up. I mean, it's, yeah.

• 1:10:30Sean Fennessey?

  Do we, do we even know that?

• 1:10:32Speaker 02

  They run around like this, right?

• 1:10:33Sean Fennessey?

  Well, something was calling to them, clearly. I don't know what it was.

• 1:10:38Sean Fennessey?

  Last night at 2:17 a.m., every child from Mrs. Gandy's class woke up, got out of bed, went downstairs, opened the front door, walked into the dark, and they never came back.

• 1:10:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:48Sean Fennessey?

  You know what that reminds me of? This movie is good, but not great. But when I first saw the commercial on TV for Needful Things, the Stephen King adaptation, I felt alive. That was like one of the first times I can remember feeling like, I need to see that now. And I probably didn't see it for some years because it was R-rated and I was like 10 when it came out. But this movie gives me a similar feeling to that, that commercial. Uh, 310.

• 1:11:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  320.

• 1:11:20Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. 3:25.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  3:35.

• 1:11:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Are you guys gonna be able to see this together?

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  Hopefully.

• 1:11:28Sean Fennessey?

  I think that's the idea.

• 1:11:29Amanda Dobbins?

  That's nice.

• 1:11:30Speaker 02

  At 2:17 a.m. They should do a 2:17 a.m. screening.

• 1:11:34Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm gonna be on Stu Magnolias 2.

• 1:11:39Sean Fennessey?

  2:17 a.m. screening.

• 1:11:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:41Sean Fennessey?

  That's the only time I am able to sleep, so I really can't do it then.

• 1:11:47Speaker 02

  I thought about going to see Jurassic World Rebirth, the 12 a.m. screening last week when we were doing that.

• 1:11:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:11:53Speaker 02

  And I was just like, I don't think I can do that. I don't want to get out of Jurassic World at 2:45 a.m.

• 1:11:59Sean Fennessey?

  It's crazy. As recently as two years ago, I was ripping midnight screenings and I just can't do it anymore. It's over.

• 1:12:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:04Sean Fennessey?

  It's curtains. It's like kid plus aging.

• 1:12:07Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, it's not a big deal, but we used to have a stop, a clock on these and...

• 1:12:11Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, we're hanging out. It's okay.

• 1:12:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:12:13Amanda Dobbins?

  There's a clock right there.

• 1:12:14Sean Fennessey?

  3:45, 3:45, Chris.

• 1:12:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Chris is like, I want this.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  3:55.

• 1:12:23Speaker 02

  He's getting me back for bidding him up on Avatar.

• 1:12:25Sean Fennessey?

  3:65.

• 1:12:26Amanda Dobbins?

  I think you both just really want this and I think that's beautiful.

• 1:12:29Sean Fennessey?

  This is among my most anticipated movies of the year.

• 1:12:31Speaker 02

  $400.

• 1:12:32Amanda Dobbins?

  It looked very good.

• 1:12:33Sean Fennessey?

  Wow, $400.

• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  Well...

• 1:12:37Sean Fennessey?

  I mean, what else are you gonna bid on? Wicked for Good?

• 1:12:40Amanda Dobbins?

  I won't be...

• 1:12:41Sean Fennessey?

  Can you believe we have to do Wicked for Good this year?

• 1:12:42Amanda Dobbins?

  I really cannot.

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  Do you think that that's gonna be like the Avatar 2 of Wicked movies where it's just like, we just agree that we're not gonna do it again this year? It's like, are they gonna really go through the same promo cycle again?

• 1:12:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:12:55Speaker 02

  And they're gonna play with puppies and talk and cry and...

• 1:12:58Sean Fennessey?

  I think obviously the core fanbase is extremely excited about it.

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:01Sean Fennessey?

  And it's gonna do good business. Will it be bigger than the last movie is an interesting question?

• 1:13:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:13:07Sean Fennessey?

  And then will it be able to match whatever? Did it have 10 nominations? I can't remember. Maybe, maybe more.

• 1:13:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Right. The, you know, and the buzz on it is of course that the second half of the musical, the songs aren't as good. And it's just...

• 1:13:20Speaker 02

  They should take some songs from Nebraska and put it in Wicked for Good.

• 1:13:23Sean Fennessey?

  That's a good idea.

• 1:13:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:24Sean Fennessey?

  State Trooper.

• 1:13:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:25Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I left it in really well. Prince Fierro sings State Trooper. That'd be awesome.

• 1:13:29Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, I did think Jonathan Bailey was very good in Jurassic World Rebirth.

• 1:13:31Sean Fennessey?

  He was very good. I agree with you.

• 1:13:33Amanda Dobbins?

  I was impressed with him.

• 1:13:34Sean Fennessey?

  I felt like he had real incredible movie presence.

• 1:13:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Totally.

• 1:13:38Sean Fennessey?

  4:10.

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  4:20.

• 1:13:43Speaker 02

  Because I'm gonna get high watching Weapons, if you know what I mean.

• 1:13:46Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, you're smoking on that Weapons pack. Uh, 430.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 1:13:52Amanda Dobbins?

  This is fun. Yeah.

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  I think you know that there's no limit for me, and I think you're driving me up.

• 1:14:00Sean Fennessey?

  But for me, the action is the juice.

• 1:14:03Speaker 02

  440. 440.

• 1:14:06Sean Fennessey?

  $440 for Weapons?

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  20, or 430.

• 1:14:10Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, 445.

• 1:14:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm, okay, but he's showing weakness.

• 1:14:21Speaker 02

  465.

• 1:14:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 1:14:24Sean Fennessey?

  You can have it.

• 1:14:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:14:25Amanda Dobbins?

  All right. Can I tell you something? This was smart.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 1:14:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Past drafts or auctions have taught us that we should really, we should spend the money on what we care about.

• 1:14:33Speaker 02

  And you know what I've gotten, I've done before is where like, I'm like, I'm just gonna equally distribute $50 across five movies. So I'm happy, I'm really happy with the two films I have so far.

• 1:14:43Amanda Dobbins?

  I could have used a little more help from you, but personally.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  How so?

• 1:14:47Amanda Dobbins?

  We'll get there when we get there, but it's okay. I support you. I just, I needed you to take out some cash flow from him, but it's fine. It's fine.

• 1:14:55Speaker 02

  Oh, like push up Avatar more?

• 1:14:57Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I needed, if, if he only had $300 left, I would be in a better spot.

• 1:15:03Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah.

• 1:15:04Amanda Dobbins?

  But it's okay.

• 1:15:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Is it my turn to pick a film?

• 1:15:07Sean Fennessey?

  I believe it is. Um, I really want to see this movie. I do not think it's a good movie for this game.

• 1:15:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:15:15Sean Fennessey?

  Which is not, not a demerit. And to Chris's point about are we leaning too much into the box office to suggest quality or something? This movie is the perfect example of probably will not, almost certainly will not cross $100 million domestically. Could be wrong, but probably not.

• 1:15:30Sean Fennessey?

  Will not have an 85 Metacritic score because it's horror. And very low likelihood of Oscars. Now, if it gets any of those three things, that probably means it's like fucking amazing.

• 1:15:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:15:41Sean Fennessey?

  If it goes over 100 million or over 85, or it gets at least one Oscar nomination, that will mean. You know, we have a new M. Night Shyamalan on our hands.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:51Sean Fennessey?

  Which would be phenomenal. I would love that. So we'll see, but nevertheless, we'll do two hours locked locked in on the movie in August.

• 1:16:00Speaker 02

  Is it my turn to pick a film?

• 1:16:01Amanda Dobbins?

  It is.

• 1:16:02Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:02Speaker 02

  I'm gonna grab, or I'm gonna nominate, Is This Thing On?

• 1:16:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:16:06Sean Fennessey?

  Is this gonna come out this year?

• 1:16:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  They say, Wikipedia says that Fox Searchlight is eyeing a fall release. We have not heard Hydrar hair nor seen a still from it. Bradley Cooper's, James L. Brooks homage, it sounds like. It's about a divorcing couple or a couple whose marriage is falling apart. And the man, the husband, played by Will Arnett, gets super into the New York City comedy scene. Features a bunch of supporting turns from contemporary New York City based comedians like Jordan Jensen, Chloe Radcliffe. Laura Dern is in this. Bradley Cooper is playing a supporting role and directed it and wrote it with Will Arnett, right?

• 1:16:49Sean Fennessey?

  Yes. This sounds like his punchline.

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  That's exactly what I have in my dock. Oh, my God.

• 1:16:55Amanda Dobbins?

  It's beautiful.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:56Sean Fennessey?

  Tom Hanks Sally Field's dramedy.

• 1:16:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:16:59Sean Fennessey?

  That I would say is now underrated, was eagerly anticipated, considered a huge disappointment, and now is

• 1:17:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:17:07Sean Fennessey?

  kind of an interesting character study. Brad Cooper, I think a damn good filmmaker.

• 1:17:12Speaker 02

  And is a really interesting left turn after Maestro.

• 1:17:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:15Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:17:15Speaker 02

  Because he could keep making these sort of great men movies until he finally gets his, his Oscars.

• 1:17:21Sean Fennessey?

  So, okay.

• 1:17:22Amanda Dobbins?

  How do you know this isn't a, it's a different type of

• 1:17:24Speaker 02

  He's a broken man.

• 1:17:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 1:17:26Speaker 02

  Who's trying to laugh his way.

• 1:17:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, maybe he's gonna find his greatness, you know?

• 1:17:29Speaker 02

  What do you think would be your biggest new, like your, your most unexpected new hobby where you, God forbid, to get divorced?

• 1:17:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, my God. That's an incredible question. I mean, don't you kind of, I feel like I'm

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  Like WNBA?

• 1:17:46Amanda Dobbins?

  You mean, like, not playing, but like being really into it?

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  You should become a WNBA ref.

• 1:17:54Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, the thing is, is that my sister-in-law, Ruthie, our beloved Ruthie, is like a huge

• 1:17:59Sean Fennessey?

  Season ticket holder, right?

• 1:18:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, season ticket holder. So in the divorce, if it's an ugly one, I kind of feel like-

• 1:18:05Sean Fennessey?

  You get Ruthie?

• 1:18:06Amanda Dobbins?

  No, no, I think that the barons get the WNBA.

• 1:18:09Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:18:10Amanda Dobbins?

  It's kind of what I think, you know?

• 1:18:11Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:18:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, I mean, I could be wrong.

• 1:18:14Sean Fennessey?

  WNBA is gonna go crazy in my house.

• 1:18:16Speaker 02

  Is it?

• 1:18:16Sean Fennessey?

  It's gonna go crazy, yeah.

• 1:18:18Amanda Dobbins?

  I do feel like I'm in a phase of life where I'm already, it's like I'm doing the divorce hobbies without the divorce. Don't you think?

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  You're like, skincare?

• 1:18:28Sean Fennessey?

  I hope you, you mean not-

• 1:18:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, no, I don't mean that. I'm, I'm, I don't mean-

• 1:18:33Sean Fennessey?

  You gotta be careful with that, yeah.

• 1:18:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Those extra things. Yeah, no, just to be clear.

• 1:18:38Sean Fennessey?

  Carefully navigate or frame, phrase.

• 1:18:40Amanda Dobbins?

  We're good, just you and me. Okay, um, no, I, I'm more meant like-

• 1:18:45Sean Fennessey?

  I'm gonna really get into polyamory, you know?

• 1:18:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:48Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I haven't told you about my like infrared box workout stuff?

• 1:18:51Speaker 02

  Yes, you have.

• 1:18:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, see, so that sort of thing.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  Burn, yeah.

• 1:18:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:18:54Speaker 02

  I don't know free ads, you know, but, um-

• 1:18:56Sean Fennessey?

  Did you put a dollar amount on is this, is this thing on?

• 1:18:59Speaker 02

  Fifty bucks.

• 1:19:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. I don't know whether it would be stand-up comedy, but maybe I could get into a performance space, you know?

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  I would pay, honestly, no less than $10,000 to watch you do stand-up comedy.

• 1:19:16Speaker 02

  You doing crowd work would cause an actual civil disturbance.

• 1:19:22Speaker 02

  The first time you got heckled, your fucking head would explode.

• 1:19:30Amanda Dobbins?

  I would like charge the crowd. It would be like irreversible, you're right.

• 1:19:35Speaker 02

  Don't let me fucking walk out of here with Bradley Cooper's follow-up to Maestro.

• 1:19:39Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say sixty bucks.

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:19:41Sean Fennessey?

  Did you see Maestro?

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:42Sean Fennessey?

  Did you?

• 1:19:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:43Sean Fennessey?

  We never discussed it. I thought it was maybe an Avatar situation. Everyone assumed you'd seen it.

• 1:19:48Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll do sixty-five.

• 1:19:49Speaker 02

  I think I've been pretty open about my skepticism of the Na'vi tale. I, this is not like new, but I am now frustrated and I didn't really appreciate the shots at Nolan. I thought like that was honestly poor form. Make your own fucking movie. Let's see, let's, let's try to like-

• 1:20:04Sean Fennessey?

  Wow.

• 1:20:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:20:05Sean Fennessey?

  Wow, you have really thrown down the gallant on being Jim, former guest of this show.

• 1:20:09Speaker 02

  One of my favorite filmmakers up until you started making imaginary underwater movies.

• 1:20:14Sean Fennessey?

  Do you like Titanic?

• 1:20:16Speaker 02

  I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good. It's a long way to get to that sinking ship. You know what I mean? You gotta deal with a lot of stuff.

• 1:20:25Amanda Dobbins?

  You learn a lot, you know?

• 1:20:26Speaker 02

  I knew it.

• 1:20:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:20:27Speaker 02

  I inherently understood.

• 1:20:29Amanda Dobbins?

  You knew about yourselves?

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  The challenges of the Irish, yeah.

• 1:20:32Sean Fennessey?

  How do you feel about class at that time? Do they think we had it right?

• 1:20:37Amanda Dobbins?

  What about art?

• 1:20:38Speaker 02

  Oh, like him drawing her?

• 1:20:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, no, she was a collector, you know? But Billy Zane didn't understand.

• 1:20:45Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:20:45Sean Fennessey?

  You dedicated that to a memory. Him drawing her. She's making a return.

• 1:20:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Pay me like one of your French girls is one of the great memes.

• 1:20:54Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:55Amanda Dobbins?

  You know?

• 1:20:55Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:56Speaker 02

  That's how I feel about VJ Edgecombe. Painting him and scored 28 in summer league. Where are we?

• 1:21:04Sean Fennessey?

  Amanda has $65 on is this thing on? So Searchlight does not really have a major Oscar contender this year. Other than this movie, if they decide to put it out. Except maybe, I don't think this is gonna happen, but the new Martin McDonagh movie.

• 1:21:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm.

• 1:21:20Sean Fennessey?

  Is, I think, I think the script is done. I, it may have started shooting, I can't really tell. It's called Wild Horse 9. And the cast is Sam Rockwell, Malkovich, Steve Buscemi, Parker Posey, and Tom Waits.

• 1:21:34Speaker 02

  Jeez, is he going back, back on his Seven Psychopaths?

• 1:21:40Sean Fennessey?

  It's a, it's a thriller, it's not a comedy.

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  Cool. 70 bucks. What's up with the James L. Brooks movies? Is that ever coming out?

• 1:21:48Sean Fennessey?

  December.

• 1:21:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:49Sean Fennessey?

  Ella Mackay.

• 1:21:49Speaker 02

  Hey.

• 1:21:51Sean Fennessey?

  Yep.

• 1:21:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:21:52Sean Fennessey?

  That's 20th Century Studios.

• 1:21:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:21:55Sean Fennessey?

  Not Searchlight. Even though it feels like a Searchlight movie. Um, I don't, I don't, I really enjoy the two movies that Cooper directed.

• 1:22:06Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:22:06Sean Fennessey?

  I think my show was like flawed, but like such a fascinating choice.

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:22:13Sean Fennessey?

  I really wish that that movie would be released on physical media.

• 1:22:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:22:17Sean Fennessey?

  That's quite an-

• 1:22:17Amanda Dobbins?

  The first time that you've said that.

• 1:22:19Speaker 02

  You should go to his cheesesteak restaurant and ask him.

• 1:22:21Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:22:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, I was joking. Do you think that Bradley Cooper is into physical media?

• 1:22:29Sean Fennessey?

  I think he's into collecting stuff.

• 1:22:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:22:32Sean Fennessey?

  So I think he would get it.

• 1:22:33Amanda Dobbins?

  All right.

• 1:22:34Sean Fennessey?

  Maestro was beautifully shot.

• 1:22:36Amanda Dobbins?

  It's, it's very beautiful. You know what the standing ovation was for Maestro at Venice? Because it was during the strike, so-

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  He couldn't be there.

• 1:22:44Amanda Dobbins?

  He couldn't be there, so it was just Leonard Bernstein's children like conducting along for like six minutes while the credits rolled. It was-

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 1:22:51Amanda Dobbins?

  I, I mean, sure.

• 1:22:54Sean Fennessey?

  I'm gonna let you have this.

• 1:22:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  Fuck.

• 1:22:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:22:58Speaker 02

  I'm fucking killing this draft.

• 1:23:01Sean Fennessey?

  You've got a streaming movie, you've got a horror movie for $500.

• 1:23:06Speaker 02

  It's gonna go beyond horror. You know this. You know in your bones that we've been waiting for a movie like this to jump out.

• 1:23:12Sean Fennessey?

  Undated Bradley Cooper stand-up comedy dramedy starring Will Arnett, known box office hero.

• 1:23:17Speaker 02

  Okay, well, call me next year.

• 1:23:19Amanda Dobbins?

  And, and, um, mobile entrepreneur, you know?

• 1:23:24Sean Fennessey?

  That's true.

• 1:23:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:23:24Sean Fennessey?

  And, and, and, and successful podcast host.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:23:28Sean Fennessey?

  That's true. And, and his performance in Arrested Development is the funniest comedy performance of the century, so I have nothing bad to say about him. Joe Bluth is the best character on TV in this century. Okay, is it me?

• 1:23:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Wait.

• 1:23:43Sean Fennessey?

  Or you go to do it twice.

• 1:23:44Speaker 02

  Oh, I go twice?

• 1:23:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Do another one, yeah.

• 1:23:50Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm.

• 1:23:50Speaker 02

  I'm gonna do, uh...

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  I'm gonna do Now You See Me, Now You Don't, AKA NYSM 3, which I think actually might be a sneaky big box office movie.

• 1:24:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:24:07Sean Fennessey?

  Have you seen either of the first Now You See Me films?

• 1:24:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I have not.

• 1:24:11Speaker 02

  I have multiple times.

• 1:24:13Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  One of the great-

• 1:24:14Amanda Dobbins?

  I've seen clips, I think.

• 1:24:16Speaker 02

  Great, great plane franchises.

• 1:24:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:24:18Speaker 02

  If you are on a plane, you will find that the hours slip away watching NYSM.

• 1:24:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  Close-up magic.

• 1:24:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:28Speaker 02

  Illusions.

• 1:24:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Flat twists.

• 1:24:31Sean Fennessey?

  I'd like to read a message I received, a mention I received on X.com yesterday. It's from a man named David Corsaro.

• 1:24:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, not Superman.

• 1:24:40Sean Fennessey?

  Not Superman, that's David Cornsweat, AKA Cornsweeper, as I believe you dubbed him some years ago during the release of the film Twister, Twisters. David Corsaro says, anyone have at Sean Fennessy's email address? I'm trying to invite him to the Magic Castle in early August.

• 1:24:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:24:55Sean Fennessey?

  I have not responded to this man. I am calling him out right here on this podcast. He is a magician who does close up magic and is performing.

• 1:25:02Speaker 02

  Will you take me?

• 1:25:02Sean Fennessey?

  At the Magic Castle.

• 1:25:03Speaker 02

  Since I just nominated Now You See Me 3?

• 1:25:05Sean Fennessey?

  I certainly would. The Magic Castle, one of the most fun places in Los Angeles, and I'm very interested in Now You See Me colon Now You Don't. What are you bidding?

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  Thirty dollars.

• 1:25:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  Value pick.

• 1:25:18Sean Fennessey?

  Will you catch up on these films?

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  Do you want me to tell you?

• 1:25:21Amanda Dobbins?

  When is it coming, guys?

• 1:25:23Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, it's August, right?

• 1:25:25Speaker 02

  It looks, when you watch this, and I mean this in a, in a really, the sweetest way I could possibly say this.

• 1:25:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:31Speaker 02

  It seems like Jesse Eisenberg has had a brain transplant when he's in these movies. Like, it is so unlike anything else he does.

• 1:25:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, but he likes doing them, right?

• 1:25:40Speaker 02

  I think so.

• 1:25:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:41Sean Fennessey?

  He loves doing them. This movie comes out November 14th.

• 1:25:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:25:45Sean Fennessey?

  It's right, right up against Wicked for Good and Zootopia 2.

• 1:25:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:25:50Sean Fennessey?

  The cast, are you familiar with this? Do you know the premise of this one?

• 1:25:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I do know that Dave Franco is in it because of, I, I mean, I remember that, but his studio.

• 1:25:59Speaker 02

  He throws playing cards at people.

• 1:26:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. What was, what movie is that in where someone throws playing cards at people?

• 1:26:04Sean Fennessey?

  That's what Gambit does, Channing Tatum, the X-Man.

• 1:26:07Amanda Dobbins?

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 1:26:08Sean Fennessey?

  He powers them up.

• 1:26:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Maybe we're not allowed to talk about this movie yet. Oh, yeah, no, in F1.

• 1:26:14Sean Fennessey?

  F1, yeah, yeah, okay.

• 1:26:16Amanda Dobbins?

  I didn't know, like, they all blur together.

• 1:26:17Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, like into a hat.

• 1:26:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  Dave Franco plays Jack Wilder.

• 1:26:21Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, and he talks about it on his studio recap.

• 1:26:24Speaker 02

  Uh, Jesse Eisenberg plays J. Daniel Atlas.

• 1:26:29Sean Fennessey?

  Danny Atlas.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  Danny Atlas.

• 1:26:30Sean Fennessey?

  Kind of an homage to Danny Ocean.

• 1:26:32Speaker 02

  And then Woody Harrelson plays Merritt McKinney. And Ila Fisher is now?

• 1:26:36Sean Fennessey?

  Ila Fisher has been in all of the films.

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  Okay. Lizzie Kaplan was in one of them.

• 1:26:40Sean Fennessey?

  She was in two.

• 1:26:41Speaker 02

  She was in two.

• 1:26:42Amanda Dobbins?

  She's the Catherine Zeta-Jones.

• 1:26:44Sean Fennessey?

  The thing with this one is, is that there's new young magicians on their heels, and they are portrayed by future movie stars, Justice Smith.

• 1:26:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:26:53Sean Fennessey?

  Ariana Greenblatt from Barbie.

• 1:26:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:55Sean Fennessey?

  And Dominic Sessa.

• 1:26:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, good for, oh, I do remember that, like, film updates to people, just like Dominic Sessa has joined the cast of, um, okay, so are they just magicians? Are they magicians who fight crime? Are they magicians who commit crimes?

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  They commit crimes, but they, they're like Robin Hoods. They like, they'll like rob a casino vault and then throw the cash to people.

• 1:27:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Uh, that's cool.

• 1:27:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:20Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, okay, you have it right now for $30. Are you bidding on this?

• 1:27:23Sean Fennessey?

  I'm not sure yet.

• 1:27:26Amanda Dobbins?

  So, uh, Jack, Jack just like disappeared.

• 1:27:29Speaker 02

  This is gonna be like a funnier bit, and now it's just like me having nice CME.

• 1:27:33Amanda Dobbins?

  So you guys are gonna go to Magic Castle together?

• 1:27:36Sean Fennessey?

  I think that, well, we have been before.

• 1:27:38Amanda Dobbins?

  I, I went with you.

• 1:27:39Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:39Amanda Dobbins?

  That time was very fun.

• 1:27:39Sean Fennessey?

  That was some years ago.

• 1:27:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I think it was like very early.

• 1:27:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, when you just moved here.

• 1:27:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, so almost 10 years ago.

• 1:27:46Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, Reuben Fleischer directed this movie.

• 1:27:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:27:50Sean Fennessey?

  He directed, uh, Jesse Eisenberg to Great Acclaim in Zombieland.

• 1:27:53Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:27:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:54Speaker 02

  The first two are Louis Leterrier.

• 1:27:56Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:27:56Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:27:57Sean Fennessey?

  Um, and he has pivoted to Fast 11.

• 1:28:00Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:28:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh.

• 1:28:00Sean Fennessey?

  Which is definitely happening.

• 1:28:01Speaker 02

  Is Ruffalo in MYSM 3?

• 1:28:04Sean Fennessey?

  That, no, I don't think so. If he is, they're not revealing that.

• 1:28:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, but that would be exciting.

• 1:28:09Speaker 02

  I wonder if Melanie, Melanie Laurent is coming back.

• 1:28:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:28:13Speaker 02

  She's dynamite.

• 1:28:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:14Speaker 02

  In this.

• 1:28:15Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, Rosamund Pike is the villain in this movie.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  Oh, shit.

• 1:28:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, happy for her.

• 1:28:20Speaker 02

  Are you sure you don't wanna go 35?

• 1:28:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:22Sean Fennessey?

  This is her, the description.

• 1:28:23Amanda Dobbins?

  She needs this because they canceled her Wheel of Time money, you know, so.

• 1:28:26Sean Fennessey?

  She plays Veronica.

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  How many letters has Zach written?

• 1:28:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Z, Yasi Solak, also a fan, I learned, so Zach.

• 1:28:34Speaker 02

  A Wheel of Time?

• 1:28:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, so Zach and Yasi are starting a letter writing campaign.

• 1:28:37Sean Fennessey?

  Yasi also came out as a very loud proponent of materialists, and she said she went to go see it because you compared it to Hal Hartley on the podcast, and she agreed.

• 1:28:46Speaker 02

  That many people have been like, shut the fuck up, you don't know what you're saying. But that's okay.

• 1:28:50Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, Rosamund Pike plays Veronica Vanderberg, the main antagonist and matriarch of the crime syndicate.

• 1:28:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, is it the crime syndicate that they work for? Or they are, they are stealing from the crime, crime syndicate to give money back to?

• 1:29:03Sean Fennessey?

  In the trailer, she's holding a diamond, and she's like, but the diamond is safe. And then Jesse Eisenberg goes like, poof, and then it shatters in her hands. It's a great moment. Fucking love movies, man. Uh, this is kind of firmly in the potential, like, Jurassic World rebirth zone, where it's like, it's fun, but it's kind of evil, you know, and like, maybe shouldn't exist. We'll see.

• 1:29:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Are you bidding on it?

• 1:29:23Sean Fennessey?

  $35.

• 1:29:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Are you gonna bid on it? No, but I'm really enjoying learning about this.

• 1:29:31Speaker 02

  Um, I kinda wanna keep bidding, but I also don't have anything else to say about it.

• 1:29:35Sean Fennessey?

  I just wanna say, this is the best movie podcast. There are no, there are many movie podcasts, but only one of them will give you all of this.

• 1:29:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure. Okay. It's true. It's true.

• 1:29:44Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 1:29:44Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, you're not gonna take this film?

• 1:29:46Speaker 02

  Thirty-six dollars.

• 1:29:50Sean Fennessey?

  You can have it.

• 1:29:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. All right.

• 1:29:52Speaker 02

  That's good, I guess.

• 1:29:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:29:55Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:29:57Amanda Dobbins?

  It's your turn. You have $700 left, Sean.

• 1:30:01Speaker 02

  I have such a normal draft this year. Usually I have like $900.

• 1:30:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:30:05Speaker 02

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• 1:31:24Sean Fennessey?

  Um, for $1, I'll put Superman on the board.

• 1:31:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Uh, I really, I understand you're doing this from a strategy perspective because you think it'll do well box office, which in our other game, I'm banking on. And you're open to superheroes and...

• 1:31:44Sean Fennessey?

  What I said, I was talking-

• 1:31:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Rachel Brosnahan.

• 1:31:47Sean Fennessey?

  With Chris and Andy Greenwald outside, right before the recording.

• 1:31:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Great.

• 1:31:49Sean Fennessey?

  And Andy said, "Have you seen it?" And I said, "No." And I said, "On the one hand, I haven't loved what I've seen, as we've discussed." I think the most recent trailer is by far the best one they put out, but the first two, I really didn't like very much, and we had kind of a weird experience watching them sell at a CinemaCon. However, there's pretty much not a James Gunn movie I don't like.

• 1:32:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:32:08Sean Fennessey?

  I like every movie he's ever made, frankly. So if I don't like it, it will be surprising to me.

• 1:32:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. So I guess, are you, you're still in the mix.

• 1:32:19Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna be bidding on this. I mean, I can bid on this, I can say $5, but-

• 1:32:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 1:32:24Sean Fennessey?

  You don't want your 264 going in that direction.

• 1:32:27Speaker 02

  No, I don't.

• 1:32:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:32:29Speaker 02

  I have another, another hero in mind.

• 1:32:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:32:33Sean Fennessey?

  Do you?

• 1:32:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:32:34Sean Fennessey?

  Roof Man's off the board.

• 1:32:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Here is the thing, is that I really don't like James Gunn movies. Like, I just really, and we all know that, I'm allergic to it.

• 1:32:43Sean Fennessey?

  But you hate me making a really strong strategic move.

• 1:32:47Amanda Dobbins?

  No, but I also have fears of you thinking it's funny and sticking me with it, so, and then getting something that I really want, but like, I also know I should bid you up, but we all know that I just-

• 1:33:00Sean Fennessey?

  It's win-win for me.

• 1:33:02Amanda Dobbins?

  I, you know, it's, that's great. Congratulations for you, I guess, whatever.

• 1:33:10Sean Fennessey?

  I mean, the movie could be charitable and could bomb miserably.

• 1:33:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but even if it bombs, it'll make 100 million domestic, so-

• 1:33:16Sean Fennessey?

  Almost certainly, yeah. It's gonna make 100 million in the opening weekend.

• 1:33:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure. That, okay.

• 1:33:23Speaker 02

  What do you think is missing? Why?

• 1:33:24Amanda Dobbins?

  I really don't, I don't wanna bid on it. I know you wanna like, make me bid on it, but I just, I don't, I think it'll do well.

• 1:33:30Speaker 02

  I'll bid $50.

• 1:33:30Amanda Dobbins?

  You already have it for $5 right now, don't bid yourself up.

• 1:33:33Speaker 02

  All right, well, he's gonna bid. He was gonna bid $6. I just can't see him get it for $6.

• 1:33:37Sean Fennessey?

  $6.

• 1:33:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. All right.

• 1:33:43Speaker 02

  $50.

• 1:33:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Ooh.

• 1:33:44Speaker 02

  Because if I did get it, well, I mean, that's good for me, right? It's gonna do box office.

• 1:33:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Exactly, that's the thing.

• 1:33:50Sean Fennessey?

  Sure, yeah, definitely. $51.

• 1:33:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:33:57Speaker 02

  Are you excited about Predator: Badlands?

• 1:34:01Sean Fennessey?

  I'm excited to talk to you about it as soon as it comes up on the board.

• 1:34:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:03Sean Fennessey?

  But we gotta sort out the Superman situation first.

• 1:34:06Speaker 02

  I just, I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what it is.

• 1:34:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Are you big on James Gunn?

• 1:34:11Speaker 02

  I like the first Guardians.

• 1:34:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:34:14Speaker 02

  I think, I think Sean likes him more than me.

• 1:34:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:34:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's not, not, not a personal thing. Please don't, don't tweet at me, James Gunn.

• 1:34:21Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. You're really more Zack Snyder. That's what you're interested in.

• 1:34:26Speaker 02

  I would say that Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead is my favorite film, either Zack Snyder or James Gunn.

• 1:34:34Sean Fennessey?

  You know who wrote the screenplay of Dawn of the Dead?

• 1:34:36Speaker 02

  James Gunn?

• 1:34:36Sean Fennessey?

  James Gunn.

• 1:34:38Speaker 02

  Maybe they should be like Garland and Boyle. Together. Stronger together.

• 1:34:43Sean Fennessey?

  It's been, it's been suggested in the past that that would have been the most useful way to pursue Superman, which is to take Zack Snyder's visual sensibility and let James Gunn write the screenplay for him. That didn't happen. They both had to get a crack at it.

• 1:34:57Speaker 02

  I would like to have seen James Gunn writing 300.

• 1:35:00Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I was just thinking about like, what would be better or worse for me? Would it be the, the two of them making Superman?

• 1:35:09Sean Fennessey?

  Together?

• 1:35:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, together, or I'm subjected to all their different individual versions.

• 1:35:14Speaker 02

  $55, by the way.

• 1:35:16Sean Fennessey?

  56.

• 1:35:17Speaker 02

  We're just gonna go one, ones?

• 1:35:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Did you see Guardians of the Galaxy 3?

• 1:35:21Sean Fennessey?

  I mean, you don't want this. You should just let me have it.

• 1:35:25Speaker 02

  Would you do that for me?

• 1:35:29Sean Fennessey?

  I gave you weapons.

• 1:35:30Speaker 02

  Uh, okay. That's a good point. I, I'm not gonna get him up to like $500.

• 1:35:35Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm not expecting you to do anything.

• 1:35:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:35:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, you can let him have it.

• 1:35:38Speaker 02

  I guess Sean has an incredible value pick, but there's something a little bit like, congratulations.

• 1:35:42Amanda Dobbins?

  You know what?

• 1:35:42Speaker 02

  You auctioned a movie coming out in four days.

• 1:35:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Hey, hey, hey, get him up to 61.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  Sixty one. Dollars.

• 1:35:52Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, sixty two dollars.

• 1:35:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, great.

• 1:35:54Sean Fennessey?

  She just wants to have

• 1:35:55Amanda Dobbins?

  I want to have more money than him. Yeah.

• 1:35:57Sean Fennessey?

  Which is not really relevant anymore.

• 1:35:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:59Sean Fennessey?

  But.

• 1:35:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, thank you.

• 1:36:01Sean Fennessey?

  Congratulations.

• 1:36:03Speaker 02

  She's got to make her money back now that she's been kicked off the set. I'm stealing back.

• 1:36:08Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take it for sixty two.

• 1:36:09Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:36:12Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I think I've

• 1:36:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:36:14Sean Fennessey?

  Done my job box office wise.

• 1:36:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:36:17Sean Fennessey?

  And now onto quality.

• 1:36:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:36:20Sean Fennessey?

  So Amanda, you have two in a row, right?

• 1:36:24Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, I have two in a row?

• 1:36:25Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:36:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:36:26Sean Fennessey?

  Cause I'm in the middle.

• 1:36:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, okay, what am I gonna do here? What will I do here?

• 1:36:35Amanda Dobbins?

  The thing is, is that I don't care about box office that much because I'm just, I'm going for me, you know?

• 1:36:44Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think Superman will get any Oscar nominations?

• 1:36:45Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:36:46Amanda Dobbins?

  No, sorry.

• 1:36:48Sean Fennessey?

  I'm just curious.

• 1:36:50Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 1:36:51Amanda Dobbins?

  I, yeah.

• 1:36:52Sean Fennessey?

  Visual effects?

• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  I, not based on what I've seen so far.

• 1:36:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Let's see.

• 1:37:01Amanda Dobbins?

  All right. Christopher has two hundred and sixty four.

• 1:37:04Speaker 02

  This is not like, uh.

• 1:37:06Sean Fennessey?

  What about the Kaiju?

• 1:37:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:37:08Speaker 02

  Is that good?

• 1:37:09Sean Fennessey?

  You know what the Kaiju is?

• 1:37:10Speaker 02

  I mean, I, I think I know what a Kaiju is, generally speaking. Is there one in the movie?

• 1:37:15Sean Fennessey?

  Um, there is, yeah.

• 1:37:16Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 1:37:19Speaker 02

  I feel like we've been here for like three hours.

• 1:37:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, no. Let's do it. J. Kelly. Let's go.

• 1:37:24Sean Fennessey?

  Let's do it.

• 1:37:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Let's do it. J. Kelly.

• 1:37:25Speaker 02

  What's this movie about? It's about a guy.

• 1:37:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, George Clooney, as I believe, an aging movie star. And, and some other stuff happens and Adam Sandler is also in it. I don't want to know anymore. I just want to go see it.

• 1:37:36Speaker 02

  Does Adam Sandler play his brother?

• 1:37:38Amanda Dobbins?

  I think so.

• 1:37:39Sean Fennessey?

  I believe so, yeah.

• 1:37:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:40Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, it is written by Noah Baumbach and Emily Mortimer.

• 1:37:43Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 1:37:43Sean Fennessey?

  And it is directed by Noah Baumbach.

• 1:37:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, so a hundred dollars.

• 1:37:46Sean Fennessey?

  This is, I think, his fourth movie for Netflix now?

• 1:37:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:50Sean Fennessey?

  He's a hundred dollars.

• 1:37:51Amanda Dobbins?

  I did.

• 1:37:53Sean Fennessey?

  Um, yes, this is also shot by Lena Sengren. I believe it's his first film. Maybe, did he shoot, uh, White Noise? He may have shot White Noise as well. Um, he also notably shot, uh, La La Land and Babylon?

• 1:38:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:38:10Sean Fennessey?

  And First Man.

• 1:38:12Speaker 02

  Uh-huh.

• 1:38:15Sean Fennessey?

  And he shot the upcoming

• 1:38:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Law Crowley did White Noise.

• 1:38:17Sean Fennessey?

  Wuthering Heights, Law Crowley, right? Yeah, so this is his first time working with Bond back, which is really interesting. I'll say 150.

• 1:38:25Speaker 02

  Is Emily Mortimer in this film?

• 1:38:28Sean Fennessey?

  I don't think so, but I believe her son with Alessandro Novolo was in White Noise.

• 1:38:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 1:38:35Sean Fennessey?

  Right? Sam?

• 1:38:36Speaker 02

  He was in My Lotus.

• 1:38:38Sean Fennessey?

  My Lotus, yeah, good actor.

• 1:38:40Amanda Dobbins?

  It's, according to Wikipedia, she is listed in the cast, but.

• 1:38:45Sean Fennessey?

  Great. The cast is incredible.

• 1:38:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:47Sean Fennessey?

  It's Clooney and Sandler.

• 1:38:48Amanda Dobbins?

  200.

• 1:38:49Sean Fennessey?

  Billy Crudup, Laura Dern, Riley Keo, Patrick Wilson, Jim Broadbent, Eve Hewson, Alba Rohrwalke, Josh Hamilton, of course, Greta Gerwig, Isla Fisher, Lars Edinger.

• 1:39:04Speaker 02

  Kyle Solar from fucking Andor.

• 1:39:07Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:39:08Speaker 02

  If you know, you know.

• 1:39:09Sean Fennessey?

  Him too.

• 1:39:10Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 1:39:11Sean Fennessey?

  225.

• 1:39:13Amanda Dobbins?

  250.

• 1:39:16Sean Fennessey?

  Who ended up with White Noise last time? A movie I like.

• 1:39:19Amanda Dobbins?

  I like it also. I don't remember. You can't psych me out of this. I thought.

• 1:39:24Sean Fennessey?

  What do you mean psych you out of it?

• 1:39:25Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know, you're just like, you're gonna bring up White Noise and you're gonna say critically, we're not so mixed.

• 1:39:30Sean Fennessey?

  You got a podcast. This is what we're here to podcast.

• 1:39:33Amanda Dobbins?

  That is true, but I'm just, my podcasting is being like, no, you will not psych me out of this.

• 1:39:39Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 1:39:41Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm excited about Jay Kelly. I'm excited about George Clooney.

• 1:39:47Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:39:47Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm excited about Adam Sandler.

• 1:39:50Speaker 02

  263.

• 1:39:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, I love it.

• 1:39:51Sean Fennessey?

  You flew back for the live taping of Good Night and Good Luck. How was that?

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:39:56Sean Fennessey?

  Did you enjoy yourself?

• 1:39:59Speaker 02

  I didn't, I didn't see either the staged version or the live TV version. I've actually been very, I felt a theater-sized hole in my life this year, actually.

• 1:40:09Sean Fennessey?

  What do you, what are your feelings on Edward Armaro?

• 1:40:13Speaker 02

  He did his best, but it doesn't seem like it's gonna work out for us. You know?

• 1:40:16Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting.

• 1:40:19Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, 270.

• 1:40:22Amanda Dobbins?

  280.

• 1:40:24Speaker 02

  Now I just sit on the sidelines.

• 1:40:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, sorry.

• 1:40:26Sean Fennessey?

  Early speculation is Sandman, big time Oscar campaign coming.

• 1:40:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Wonderful.

• 1:40:34Sean Fennessey?

  Is it time for Sandman?

• 1:40:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 1:40:37Speaker 02

  Do you think if Sandman didn't make super dumb movies, other than these Oscar bait movies? Like if he, can, can he find like a middle ground between like, I have a remote control that controls my wife? And Jay Kelly? That like, it would be cool?

• 1:40:52Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, he did, he does those.

• 1:40:54Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:40:54Sean Fennessey?

  He did funny people.

• 1:40:56Speaker 02

  That was a long time ago. And that was also like slyly like trying to get an Oscar too, right?

• 1:41:01Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, I don't know about that. Um, he just did Hustle. I disagree. I think he's actually one of the best purveyors of this. I mean, I, I'm obsessed with Sandler, so I've thought about this a lot. But I think one of the best things about him is he has three modes. He can do your happy, mad, and dumb comedy. And there's a huge audience for those movies. He can do this kind of like mid-level dramedy.

• 1:41:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:24Sean Fennessey?

  Like he did Spanglish years ago, you know, like he, he does these kinds of movies all the time.

• 1:41:28Speaker 02

  I remember Spanglish.

• 1:41:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:29Sean Fennessey?

  Not a film I like at all, but he did it. And he also can do Uncut Gems and movies with Bonback. So I think he's like legitimately one of the most versatile movie stars of all time.

• 1:41:41Sean Fennessey?

  That's my piece.

• 1:41:42Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't, I don't disagree.

• 1:41:42Sean Fennessey?

  You know, George Clooney cannot do Happy Gilmore. He simply cannot do it.

• 1:41:46Amanda Dobbins?

  That's true.

• 1:41:47Sean Fennessey?

  But Adam Sandler can do Out of Sight.

• 1:41:50Speaker 02

  I don't know, I think George Clooney in Oh Brother, The Idiot, Coen Clooney can, could do something approaching the Sandler comedies.

• 1:42:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, it's, I think it's sort of like a, it's a Jon Hamm thing where you're like too handsome to be that funny, even though you really want to be funny.

• 1:42:08Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:42:08Sean Fennessey?

  He's funny for a handsome guy.

• 1:42:09Amanda Dobbins?

  And it's like, and he definitely appreciates the other people being funny, you know? I think he, he's a good laugher, but you know.

• 1:42:17Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, I'll say 290.

• 1:42:19Amanda Dobbins?

  300.

• 1:42:21Sean Fennessey?

  You know who else needs to have in its time is Noah.

• 1:42:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Noah Baumbach.

• 1:42:24Sean Fennessey?

  It's really Noah's time. We gotta acknowledge, one of the greats.

• 1:42:29Speaker 02

  How do you feel about the two of them, Noah and Greta, just working for Big Ted?

• 1:42:34Sean Fennessey?

  I don't love it.

• 1:42:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:42:36Sean Fennessey?

  I don't love it.

• 1:42:38Speaker 02

  But I guess this is where I mean.

• 1:42:39Sean Fennessey?

  I'd like to go see his movies in movie theaters.

• 1:42:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. He can't get himself like an Indian paintbrush deal, like where just like some, some rich guy is like, here's 40 mil. You can go make a movie.

• 1:42:49Sean Fennessey?

  He's never made a movie that has made very much money in theaters. So in some ways, when Netflix's whole thing was we take on the Noah Baumbachs and the, and the bong jujos and make their movies. That was an amazing moment in movie history that will not, never be replicated.

• 1:43:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:03Sean Fennessey?

  Apple did a very small version of it and that's kind of over too. I'll say 310. Very, I'm really into this movie. It's a good, it's a good movie for the show.

• 1:43:10Amanda Dobbins?

  This is a good movie for us. 320.

• 1:43:14Amanda Dobbins?

  This is another, uh, I'm hopeful that it will be at Venice and.

• 1:43:21Sean Fennessey?

  I think it's a pretty good bet.

• 1:43:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, because Netflix does, the Venice Film Festival likes Ven- likes Netflix and Netflix likes to show up there. So that would be.

• 1:43:30Sean Fennessey?

  330?

• 1:43:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Sort of 340. The, the main issue is like the scheduling, you know, because I really, last, last time they scheduled Sofia Coppola as Priscilla for after I was supposed to leave.

• 1:43:43Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm. Why not extend your trip?

• 1:43:45Amanda Dobbins?

  I did extend it, but then I will have to extend it again and I don't know, you know.

• 1:43:50Sean Fennessey?

  Is it because you have to go straight to the set of Steelhead Glaze 2? That you want to see your family between?

• 1:43:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, right, yeah.

• 1:43:57Sean Fennessey?

  I understand. It's tough.

• 1:44:02Sean Fennessey?

  3...

• 1:44:07Sean Fennessey?

  350?

• 1:44:08Amanda Dobbins?

  360.

• 1:44:10Sean Fennessey?

  370?

• 1:44:12Amanda Dobbins?

  380.

• 1:44:13Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:44:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, the cursor that can't keep up with us.

• 1:44:18Sean Fennessey?

  Seems like a lot.

• 1:44:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 1:44:22Sean Fennessey?

  You just want to get what you want to get.

• 1:44:24Amanda Dobbins?

  That is true. In the auction and in life.

• 1:44:27Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. How's it going?

• 1:44:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Not good.

• 1:44:30Sean Fennessey?

  Are you achieving what you want?

• 1:44:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Just not at all good.

• 1:44:32Sean Fennessey?

  You're not getting what you want?

• 1:44:33Amanda Dobbins?

  You know. But tonight, when I put that honey mask on, you know?

• 1:44:38Sean Fennessey?

  Then you'll feel you are complaining. This honey mask completes me?

• 1:44:42Amanda Dobbins?

  I figure out the plot holes and I'm just like that.

• 1:44:46Sean Fennessey?

  390.

• 1:44:47Amanda Dobbins?

  400.

• 1:44:50Sean Fennessey?

  My, my, my. Is there anything else we would go up against one another for in the rest of this auction? Sierra's got only one slot left, so it's gonna be me and you.

• 1:44:59Speaker 02

  I could see a couple of things that would bring you two together.

• 1:45:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but like, the thing is, and it's a little ugly, which is in the theme of this podcast, but Bombak is what brings us together, you know? And so now we are pitted against each other.

• 1:45:13Speaker 02

  Over the thing that we love most.

• 1:45:15Sean Fennessey?

  Is the single biggest meeting point of our taste?

• 1:45:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Probably?

• 1:45:19Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:20Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:45:24Speaker 02

  That and Big Tom Cruise action movies.

• 1:45:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I guess that's true.

• 1:45:28Sean Fennessey?

  We've been let down by one of those already this year.

• 1:45:30Amanda Dobbins?

  But we're there together.

• 1:45:32Sean Fennessey?

  410?

• 1:45:33Amanda Dobbins?

  420.

• 1:45:37Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't have a weed joke to make. Sorry. I got some edibles.

• 1:45:42Sean Fennessey?

  Not a weed person.

• 1:45:43Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I'm not. And I got some edibles that were recommended for sleep. And they didn't, it didn't work for me. And also, I just don't like how they taste. They're like blackberry, but you know, they have strong weed aftertastes. I like really, I don't like the notes.

• 1:45:59Sean Fennessey?

  I mean.

• 1:45:59Amanda Dobbins?

  No thanks.

• 1:46:00Sean Fennessey?

  It is weed, after all.

• 1:46:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I know. It's not.

• 1:46:03Sean Fennessey?

  Not a weed guy.

• 1:46:04Speaker 02

  They just killed the goose, man. They shouldn't have, they just, I just.

• 1:46:08Sean Fennessey?

  You got a weed take?

• 1:46:09Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:46:09Sean Fennessey?

  A big weed take?

• 1:46:10Speaker 02

  I just think like, what we think of as weed now is not like what weed was.

• 1:46:14Sean Fennessey?

  You mean the oregano that you smoked in 1996?

• 1:46:16Speaker 02

  Honestly, I was better for it. I was better off smoking like some ground up herbs and spices in Washington Square Park than I was getting my, my frontal lobe dissolved by like whatevers and this stuff. And I really resent their, uh, real estate footprint.

• 1:46:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, that shit is insane.

• 1:46:34Speaker 02

  The real estate footprint of the weed industry.

• 1:46:36Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm. I see. Um, I don't really have a comment.

• 1:46:43Sean Fennessey?

  I

• 1:46:44Speaker 02

  Why are there more weed stores than DVD stores?

• 1:46:47Sean Fennessey?

  Well, it's it's market capitalism, right? I mean, what do people want?

• 1:46:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, great.

• 1:46:51Sean Fennessey?

  How are they spending their time?

• 1:46:52Speaker 02

  Well, I think that they should spend their time with DVDs.

• 1:46:55Sean Fennessey?

  As you know, I agree. I just received a box.

• 1:46:57Speaker 02

  I don't know why they can't just do both. Have a weed store where it's like, here's a gummy and then here's the perfect movie to go with that gummy.

• 1:47:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:47:05Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm. I mean, I don't think movies are best experienced.

• 1:47:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Why are you turning your back on his innovation, you know?

• 1:47:13Sean Fennessey?

  No one's ever thought about DVDs and gummy and watching a movie before.

• 1:47:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Selling them together.

• 1:47:18Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, yeah, that could be cool.

• 1:47:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:47:21Sean Fennessey?

  That could be cool. Should we call the local video stores?

• 1:47:23Amanda Dobbins?

  You don't seem that excited about it.

• 1:47:25Sean Fennessey?

  Well, most of the time I don't want to watch a movie.

• 1:47:27Amanda Dobbins?

  What if I got stoned and sold your DVDs on the sale, on the street?

• 1:47:32Speaker 02

  Also, another thing is that I think given the strength of weed now, I should be able to sell loods like in a store, you know?

• 1:47:41Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I know what you're saying.

• 1:47:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:43Sean Fennessey?

  But I don't agree with it. Uh, I'll let you have it for 420.

• 1:47:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you so much. That's really nice of you.

• 1:47:50Speaker 02

  Chris's Quaaludes?

• 1:47:53Speaker 02

  Quaalude for any occasion?

• 1:47:55Sean Fennessey?

  You can, the branding is right there. It's all Leo's faces from Wolf of Wall Street. That would be really good. Uh, okay. You gotta put another movie up.

• 1:48:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Um, all right. Deliver Me From Nowhere.

• 1:48:05Sean Fennessey?

  Wow.

• 1:48:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Five bucks.

• 1:48:06Sean Fennessey?

  Wow.

• 1:48:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, let's go.

• 1:48:08Sean Fennessey?

  I will not be bidding on this movie.

• 1:48:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:48:11Speaker 02

  Uh, 10 bucks.

• 1:48:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Uh, 15?

• 1:48:14Speaker 02

  50.

• 1:48:17Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know. I mean, I guess.

• 1:48:20Speaker 02

  You don't, how are you feeling?

• 1:48:21Amanda Dobbins?

  How am I feeling?

• 1:48:22Speaker 02

  About him, about Jeremy as, as Bruce.

• 1:48:25Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, just, just.

• 1:48:26Speaker 02

  About Jeremy.

• 1:48:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Pick a menu. Just pick one and just stick with it.

• 1:48:30Speaker 02

  The bear?

• 1:48:30Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, just, just.

• 1:48:32Speaker 02

  You gotta.

• 1:48:33Amanda Dobbins?

  I know.

• 1:48:33Speaker 02

  Charlie Parker didn't play the same notes every night.

• 1:48:35Amanda Dobbins?

  I, I just can't believe how long we've been talking about.

• 1:48:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:41Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, just he, what, and the components and just pick one. So that's how I feel. But I think that when he's not sitting in a, in like the weirdly lit kitchen being like, I need more ingredients because I have demons. Um, he's really good.

• 1:48:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:58Amanda Dobbins?

  He was really good in the wedding episode.

• 1:48:59Speaker 02

  Do you believe him as Bruce Springsteen?

• 1:49:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, I don't really, sure.

• 1:49:05Speaker 02

  So much so that you would go over fifty dollars?

• 1:49:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure, fifty, fifty-three dollars. Let's go. You want to keep talking about it? You're not even bidding because you have a moral opposition to musical biopics.

• 1:49:16Sean Fennessey?

  I'm just not that excited about this movie.

• 1:49:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:49:18Sean Fennessey?

  I haven't, there's been a long time since I've seen a Scott Cooper movie I like.

• 1:49:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:22Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, I think Jeremy Allen White's a good actor. I'm not sure if I'm sold on him at this level.

• 1:49:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:49:27Sean Fennessey?

  And I will go, I will walk into the ocean for Jeremy Strong. I will support him in anything he does. I believe he is one of the most important people alive and I will not move off of that opinion. And so that alone, I might like this, but you know, I just think these kinds of movies stink.

• 1:49:44Speaker 02

  How do you know?

• 1:49:45Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, six hundred and thirty-eight dollars. I've got three slots left.

• 1:49:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:48Sean Fennessey?

  Like, I got Superman for sixty-two bucks.

• 1:49:55Sean Fennessey?

  I actually don't know, like, what, like, is this movie gonna get nominated for Best Picture? Or is it gonna get, like, absolutely destroyed by credit? I have no clue.

• 1:50:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Did you guys see The Lunch in Sardinia that was Scott Cooper, Jeremy Strong, Bradley Cooper?

• 1:50:10Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 1:50:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Someone else was there. They were just all, someone else who was not related to this movie, but makes movies.

• 1:50:18Speaker 02

  That's Blue Zone right there.

• 1:50:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:50:20Speaker 02

  They're over forever. That's good olive oil.

• 1:50:22Sean Fennessey?

  Would you get on a rocket ship and go into space with those guys?

• 1:50:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, that would be an amazing movie, too.

• 1:50:30Sean Fennessey?

  What was the name of that trip?

• 1:50:31Amanda Dobbins?

  I honestly, if, if Blue, The Blue Origin.

• 1:50:33Sean Fennessey?

  Blue Origin, thank you.

• 1:50:34Amanda Dobbins?

  They, if they'd had you on that trip, not the, not the women, because you can't be a girl boss, but like...

• 1:50:39Sean Fennessey?

  Just to break up the self-seriousness.

• 1:50:41Amanda Dobbins?

  If, if they had you on the dude version of that trip, everyone would love it.

• 1:50:46Speaker 02

  Bro Origin?

• 1:50:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, Bro, like, Bro Origin, you'd kill it. And I think you'd look good in the blue suit, too.

• 1:50:52Speaker 02

  Um, what would happen, though, if they Martianed me? And I had to grow potatoes out of my own feces.

• 1:50:59Sean Fennessey?

  Those Irish genes, though.

• 1:51:00Amanda Dobbins?

  As long as someone is videotaping it, then we have, you know, a box office.

• 1:51:06Speaker 02

  It would be tough to miss the Odyssey if I got lost in space.

• 1:51:10Sean Fennessey?

  This episode is dedicated to CR, who is in oblivion right now. Chris, we're so happy we got to see the Odyssey.

• 1:51:17Amanda Dobbins?

  He's sending us a little, he's sending us robot messages.

• 1:51:20Speaker 02

  Do you think I could do like a-

• 1:51:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Every Mars solar day.

• 1:51:23Sean Fennessey?

  We would put you right here on the big screen.

• 1:51:24Speaker 02

  Can I make a wish it? And do you think like if I was like, I have like two hours of oxygen left, Christopher Nolan, please beam the Odyssey into my fucking suit? So I could-

• 1:51:36Sean Fennessey?

  I think the runtime's gonna be a little longer than two hours, yeah.

• 1:51:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Also, the format would not be appropriate.

• 1:51:41Speaker 02

  What if he could like broadcast it against the moon? You know what I mean?

• 1:51:45Amanda Dobbins?

  I do, yeah.

• 1:51:46Speaker 02

  The widest of screens.

• 1:51:47Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, but would the sound be synced properly?

• 1:51:49Amanda Dobbins?

  But then you'd have to wait for like a full, you know, what is it? What's like a, how does the moon wax and wane on Mars?

• 1:51:57Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm in Mars. I thought I was just going up and doing a quick lap.

• 1:52:00Sean Fennessey?

  CR's got this for 60 bucks.

• 1:52:01Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, I'm gonna let him have it.

• 1:52:02Sean Fennessey?

  Well, that's the end of his slate.

• 1:52:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:04Speaker 02

  It's okay, I could still chime in, talk a little bit. I have to nominate something. I've just got you two to fight over it.

• 1:52:10Sean Fennessey?

  You do.

• 1:52:12Amanda Dobbins?

  You're up, big dog.

• 1:52:13Sean Fennessey?

  I'm up.

• 1:52:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:15Sean Fennessey?

  Five slots left. I like that. I accept. I accept, big dog.

• 1:52:23Amanda Dobbins?

  It does really feel like we've been here forever.

• 1:52:25Sean Fennessey?

  It's been a long pod.

• 1:52:28Speaker 02

  I wonder if it's cool for people listening. They're like, this is, this is, this is good. I think so. I think that we've got a lot of ideas.

• 1:52:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Does the moon wax and wane on Mars? I guess it's not Mars's moon. Does Mars have moons?

• 1:52:41Speaker 02

  I think if I was on Mars, that would be a much bigger story than the Odyssey, because I would be the first man on Mars.

• 1:52:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Mars has two moons, which I guess are the moons that carry its chariots. Now that the horses, you know, now that I think about it.

• 1:52:54Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, Chloe Zhao's hamming it. 50 bucks.

• 1:52:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, oh.

• 1:52:58Speaker 02

  It's gonna get contentious.

• 1:53:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah. Did you read this?

• 1:53:04Sean Fennessey?

  No, and I won't.

• 1:53:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, did I spoil it for you?

• 1:53:07Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 1:53:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Adapted from the Maggie O'Farrell novel, which I thought was absolutely sensational.

• 1:53:16Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, 75 for sure.

• 1:53:19Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 100.

• 1:53:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:21Sean Fennessey?

  This is actually quite different from anything Chloe Zhao has ever done before.

• 1:53:27Amanda Dobbins?

  True.

• 1:53:28Sean Fennessey?

  Her first three films are, if not improvised, very naturalistic. And the story is very threadbare.

• 1:53:37Speaker 02

  Is it an improvised, naturalistic film?

• 1:53:39Sean Fennessey?

  And Eternals is what Eternals is. This is meant to be like a Return to Form kind of a thing, but also, you know, period piece adaptation is not something she's ever experimented with.

• 1:53:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:53:51Sean Fennessey?

  I'm still a believer in her talent.

• 1:53:53Amanda Dobbins?

  I am as well.

• 1:53:54Sean Fennessey?

  I really love Nomadland. I said it then and I say it now. I really, really like that movie. I think it's very insightful emotionally. So.

• 1:54:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Also, you know, I know that period piece does historically mean very mannered. Of course it is.

• 1:54:08Speaker 02

  Not necessarily, though.

• 1:54:09Amanda Dobbins?

  But it doesn't have to be.

• 1:54:10Sean Fennessey?

  Doesn't have to be.

• 1:54:10Amanda Dobbins?

  And it would make sense with this story for it to be.

• 1:54:15Speaker 02

  Like, you know, it's a period piece that kind of comes, jumps right off the page.

• 1:54:18Amanda Dobbins?

  What?

• 1:54:19Speaker 02

  Valkyrie.

• 1:54:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:54:21Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, it sure does. Jumps right off the page and right into your laptop. Where you post memes on 8chan.

• 1:54:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, 125.

• 1:54:30Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 150. The other reason for this, to be excited about this movie, obviously Paul Meskell.

• 1:54:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:35Sean Fennessey?

  Playing William Shakespeare and Jessie Buckley playing Agnes Shakespeare.

• 1:54:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 1:54:39Sean Fennessey?

  Jessie Buckley, one of my favorites. Paul Meskell, kind of in need of a comeback.

• 1:54:43Speaker 02

  I'd fucking Glastonbury for that guy, though.

• 1:54:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I'm unreal.

• 1:54:47Speaker 02

  Smoking darts with Gracie.

• 1:54:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:49Sean Fennessey?

  Gracie Abrams, are you a fan?

• 1:54:50Speaker 02

  No, but I, you know, they're obviously, they're staying together.

• 1:54:54Amanda Dobbins?

  You think so?

• 1:54:55Sean Fennessey?

  You think for good.

• 1:54:56Speaker 02

  If I had to bet, if I was a betting man, they've gone past the point where it would just be convenient for like pop, paparazzi points.

• 1:55:02Sean Fennessey?

  So you think Wedding Bells for them?

• 1:55:03Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 1:55:04Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting. Joe Allen plays Bartholomew in this film.

• 1:55:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, 175. Joe Allen has good taste in films. I don't remember or know who Bartholomew is, but that's fine.

• 1:55:15Sean Fennessey?

  Emily Watson plays Mary. Emily Watson, wonderful actress.

• 1:55:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Agnes is a great name.

• 1:55:24Sean Fennessey?

  It was on the list.

• 1:55:25Amanda Dobbins?

  It was. It's really nice. And I think it would have been on the list for us as well, though we know, we know an Agnes, like a similar generation Agnes, so I wouldn't want to steal that one.

• 1:55:36Speaker 02

  Like, how many names, how many like Steves do you guys know?

• 1:55:41Amanda Dobbins?

  It's really.

• 1:55:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:55:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, no, there are no Chris's.

• 1:55:45Speaker 02

  Dave.

• 1:55:45Amanda Dobbins?

  There are no.

• 1:55:46Speaker 02

  Sean.

• 1:55:47Sean Fennessey?

  No. I've done this bit before with other parents. It's just, Michael. There are no Michaels.

• 1:55:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Like, that preschool tour will just blow your hair back. You just look at those.

• 1:55:56Sean Fennessey?

  Jonathan.

• 1:55:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Those, uh.

• 1:55:58Sean Fennessey?

  You just don't meet a Jonathan anymore.

• 1:55:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:56:00Sean Fennessey?

  You're more likely to meet a George than a Jonathan in 2025.

• 1:56:03Speaker 02

  It's just gonna be so fucking crazy when it's like 2060 and it's like President Ryder.

• 1:56:11Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, Longfellow.

• 1:56:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:56:12Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, they're all, the names of the kids in Alice. I mean, we live in Los, the east side of Los Angeles.

• 1:56:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:56:17Sean Fennessey?

  So, yeah, the names are.

• 1:56:18Speaker 02

  It's a bubble.

• 1:56:19Sean Fennessey?

  It's a bubble. Uh, 200.

• 1:56:25Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I, 210, sure.

• 1:56:28Sean Fennessey?

  211.

• 1:56:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, 212?

• 1:56:32Sean Fennessey?

  213.

• 1:56:35Amanda Dobbins?

  214?

• 1:56:36Speaker 02

  Chunk it up.

• 1:56:36Sean Fennessey?

  215?

• 1:56:37Amanda Dobbins?

  You want to do it? Like, do you, I mean.

• 1:56:40Sean Fennessey?

  I think this is gonna be one of the big films of the year.

• 1:56:44Amanda Dobbins?

  I have.

• 1:56:45Sean Fennessey?

  It's gonna be one of the Oscar heavyweights.

• 1:56:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. 218?

• 1:56:56Sean Fennessey?

  Uh,

• 1:56:59Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take it for 219.

• 1:57:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, there you go.

• 1:57:01Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 1:57:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Was that fun?

• 1:57:06Sean Fennessey?

  It was, I feel good about it.

• 1:57:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:57:08Sean Fennessey?

  I needed an Oscar contender.

• 1:57:09Speaker 02

  Proud owner.

• 1:57:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Great book, if you haven't read it. Upsetting, but great.

• 1:57:14Sean Fennessey?

  This film's produced by Sam Mendes and Steven Spielberg.

• 1:57:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm, okay. Well, good job.

• 1:57:21Sean Fennessey?

  Very interesting. I wonder if they were both attached to direct at a certain point.

• 1:57:25Speaker 02

  Oh, and then they, they were like, I won't, but I'll lend my name to it.

• 1:57:28Sean Fennessey?

  Seems possible. We shall see.

• 1:57:32Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 1:57:34Sean Fennessey?

  Chris, you've got to put a movie up.

• 1:57:36Speaker 02

  I can't bid on it, but I can watch you to talk about Caught Stealing, Darren Aronofsky's comic thriller.

• 1:57:45Amanda Dobbins?

  So what are the rules here?

• 1:57:48Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know.

• 1:57:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Like, do we have to?

• 1:57:49Sean Fennessey?

  We've never been in this situation before.

• 1:57:51Speaker 02

  Neither have you won it. I can throw up another one.

• 1:57:53Sean Fennessey?

  I think we can just pass and move on to another. I really did not like the trailer for this movie.

• 1:57:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:57:58Amanda Dobbins?

  I believe in the members of the cast, like, a lot. Austin Butler, Joey Kravitz, Matt Smith, Regina King, like, sure, Bad Bunny, why not?

• 1:58:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, once again, I'm reading from Google AI, so if that's wrong, blame AI, like everything else.

• 1:58:16Sean Fennessey?

  You could click one button just to confirm.

• 1:58:18Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, but, you know, it's suddenly like I had the mic.

• 1:58:21Sean Fennessey?

  This is what has happened to America.

• 1:58:23Amanda Dobbins?

  It's true.

• 1:58:24Sean Fennessey?

  This is what has happened to the minds.

• 1:58:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:26Amanda Dobbins?

  It's bad.

• 1:58:26Sean Fennessey?

  Of consumers.

• 1:58:27Amanda Dobbins?

  It's a time crunch thing. Uh, I don't.

• 1:58:30Sean Fennessey?

  It's not an issue on this episode.

• 1:58:32Amanda Dobbins?

  But I can see Jack, like, holding his head in despair. Your lighting's great today. And we have like a, it's like the corner of the TV is over your forehead, but then I see him being like, ah.

• 1:58:45Sean Fennessey?

  No one's bidding.

• 1:58:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. Do you want me to put up a different film?

• 1:58:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Darren Aronofsky, I'd K.

• 1:58:48Speaker 02

  Or a second film now?

• 1:58:48Amanda Dobbins?

  I'd K.

• 1:58:49Sean Fennessey?

  I enjoy Darren Aronofsky's work, but this feels a little low rent for him, in my opinion.

• 1:58:54Speaker 02

  I think it looks cool, and Austin Butler has got my vote.

• 1:58:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Same.

• 1:58:58Speaker 02

  President Butler. Uh, speaking of presidents, House of Dynamite.

• 1:59:03Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, okay.

• 1:59:03Amanda Dobbins?

  That's the big O?

• 1:59:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:59:04Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, this is interesting.

• 1:59:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:59:06Sean Fennessey?

  Have seen Narian image from this film.

• 1:59:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:59:09Sean Fennessey?

  It's got, I believe, an October release date.

• 1:59:12Speaker 02

  Has Idris Elba been in the White House too much?

• 1:59:16Sean Fennessey?

  Just in his career?

• 1:59:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. To be believable in this House of Dynamite scenario, which I assume he is the president?

• 1:59:24Sean Fennessey?

  He's first billed in the movie, so that seems logical.

• 1:59:27Speaker 02

  Or maybe he's like.

• 1:59:28Amanda Dobbins?

  But maybe, maybe it's one of those where the president is just in another room.

• 1:59:32Speaker 02

  Is Gretta Lee the president? Is Tracy Letts the president?

• 1:59:35Amanda Dobbins?

  That would be great.

• 1:59:36Sean Fennessey?

  I do, Tracy, I do not believe Tracy is the president of this film. I could be wrong. I, he, I've talked to him about this movie, but not what he's doing in the movie.

• 1:59:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:59:45Sean Fennessey?

  The log line is a group of White House officials scramble to deal with an incoming missile attack on the US. I don't know for sure, but I think it might even be a TikTok specifically of what happens when it is announced.

• 1:59:57Speaker 02

  Not TikTok.

• 1:59:58Sean Fennessey?

  CK, yes, CK is not the, Catherine Bigelow did not direct a TikTok for Netflix, although.

• 2:00:05Amanda Dobbins?

  We do have to clarify in 2025.

• 2:00:07Sean Fennessey?

  Maybe she should have done that. Um, no, like a little countdown from the moment when the missile is fired at the United States to what, what transpires, which is just a great premise for a movie.

• 2:00:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:00:18Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, fail safe is a very similar premise, the Lumet movie. So Idris Elba, Rebecca Ferguson, Tracy Letts, Anthony Ramos, Gretta Lee, Renee Elise Goldberry.

• 2:00:29Speaker 02

  That's a lot of Broadway talent right there.

• 2:00:31Sean Fennessey?

  A lot of stage actors in the White House. Um.

• 2:00:36Sean Fennessey?

  I'll bid 10 bucks.

• 2:00:40Amanda Dobbins?

  25.

• 2:00:42Sean Fennessey?

  How do you feel about another year of Bigelow, Big Jim going toe to toe?

• 2:00:46Amanda Dobbins?

  I, historically, it's been fruitful. So.

• 2:00:50Sean Fennessey?

  It has.

• 2:00:51Amanda Dobbins?

  That seems good.

• 2:00:52Sean Fennessey?

  50 bucks? Kind of pumped about this?

• 2:00:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, me too.

• 2:00:55Sean Fennessey?

  White House thriller.

• 2:00:55Speaker 02

  Hasn't directed anything since Detroit.

• 2:00:57Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm very 60?

• 2:01:00Sean Fennessey?

  75?

• 2:01:02Sean Fennessey?

  Like, this could just become a movie that doesn't exist. Like, it's possible that it comes out and people are like, okay, and then they move on. Or it's a Catherine Bigelow movie?

• 2:01:09Speaker 02

  It could be like Triple Frontier, which she was supposed to direct. But it could be like one of those movies where it's like, man, I'm so pumped. And then it comes out on Netflix and everybody's like, cool.

• 2:01:16Sean Fennessey?

  But it never died in our memory. Yeah, that's a big one.

• 2:01:18Speaker 02

  Our, our personal rewatchables.

• 2:01:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Big size Twixs.

• 2:01:22Speaker 02

  I do remember that.

• 2:01:23Amanda Dobbins?

  That was, that was a great day. Uh, 80?

• 2:01:25Sean Fennessey?

  It was a great day. 85.

• 2:01:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Ninety?

• 2:01:36Sean Fennessey?

  That's, I feel like the awareness of this in the public at large is low.

• 2:01:40Amanda Dobbins?

  True.

• 2:01:40Sean Fennessey?

  I would say that for a lot of these films.

• 2:01:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:01:43Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, yeah. Ninety-five?

• 2:01:46Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, what am I gonna do if I don't do this?

• 2:01:50Sean Fennessey?

  This would give me Big Jim, James Gunn, Chloe Zhao, and Kathryn Bigelow.

• 2:01:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:01:55Sean Fennessey?

  If I could get this film.

• 2:01:57Sean Fennessey?

  That would be solid.

• 2:02:01Amanda Dobbins?

  A hundred dollars, because I believe in women filmmakers.

• 2:02:05Sean Fennessey?

  I'm not even making this about gender. I don't see gender. No, I only see a missile coming right at us. What I see is a thriller, a pulse pounding thriller from one of our great thriller makers.

• 2:02:14Amanda Dobbins?

  All right.

• 2:02:15Sean Fennessey?

  One oh five. Have you seen Point Break recently?

• 2:02:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 2:02:18Amanda Dobbins?

  It's really good. One-ten.

• 2:02:20Sean Fennessey?

  Wow.

• 2:02:21Speaker 02

  That's a film.

• 2:02:24Sean Fennessey?

  One fifteen.

• 2:02:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Are we, are like, are we just gonna do this all the way? One, one-twenty?

• 2:02:30Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know. Jack is so, he's like so hungry. I need a fucking-

• 2:02:34Amanda Dobbins?

  He's not.

• 2:02:34Sean Fennessey?

  String cheese so bad.

• 2:02:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Oh, yeah. Can we get, will you throw string cheeses in here? Will that like interrupt with the like-

• 2:02:42Sean Fennessey?

  Like this is Tiger Cage? Let's run it right now.

• 2:02:47Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, string cheeses.

• 2:02:47Amanda Dobbins?

  One-twenty, okay. Uh, yeah, one-twenty. I feel good about that.

• 2:02:50Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, one-thirty?

• 2:02:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, one-thirty-five.

• 2:02:57Sean Fennessey?

  One-forty? I'm sorry, Chris. This is just, this is important. I agree. I wasn't yawning in anger.

• 2:03:07Sean Fennessey?

  One-fifty?

• 2:03:09Sean Fennessey?

  Bigelow?

• 2:03:10Amanda Dobbins?

  One-fifty-five. Like, who's, who's saying, who's saying no? Not me.

• 2:03:15Sean Fennessey?

  Would you have bit on this, Chris? Yeah. This is gonna be sick. You got, now you see me, Nigel.

• 2:03:23Speaker 02

  That was more of like-

• 2:03:24Amanda Dobbins?

  For thirty-six dollars!

• 2:03:25Speaker 02

  I thought I was gonna throw that out there, there was gonna be some laughs, I didn't really think I was gonna wind up with it.

• 2:03:30Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, here we go.

• 2:03:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Alright, there we go, one.

• 2:03:33Sean Fennessey?

  Two.

• 2:03:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay, thank you.

• 2:03:35Sean Fennessey?

  Thank you.

• 2:03:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Sick, alright.

• 2:03:37Sean Fennessey?

  Wow, string cheese break?

• 2:03:38Speaker 02

  A bunch of people eating cheese on video.

• 2:03:40Sean Fennessey?

  People love it, when cheese is in someone's mouth and then they talk, people love to hear that.

• 2:03:44Amanda Dobbins?

  So this is, this is cold, so that is bad for you lactose-wise. I don't know how much lactose is in this, to be quite honest.

• 2:03:50Sean Fennessey?

  I do have some mozzarella allowances.

• 2:03:52Speaker 02

  Did you get that piece of information? Where'd you get that from?

• 2:03:54Amanda Dobbins?

  From Sean, so I don't really-

• 2:03:56Speaker 02

  Cold cheese is bad for you?

• 2:03:57Sean Fennessey?

  Cooked cheese, if you're lactose intolerant, is okay. There's like gradations.

• 2:04:02Amanda Dobbins?

  One fifty-five?

• 2:04:03Sean Fennessey?

  I'm not officially diagnosed, one sixty-five.

• 2:04:04Amanda Dobbins?

  You think Catherine Biclo eats string cheese on set?

• 2:04:07Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 2:04:07Amanda Dobbins?

  What do you think Catherine Biclo eats on set? One seventy?

• 2:04:09Sean Fennessey?

  Hot tea.

• 2:04:11Speaker 02

  She vapes.

• 2:04:12Amanda Dobbins?

  If she does? You know that?

• 2:04:13Speaker 02

  No, but it seems like something that she would do.

• 2:04:15Sean Fennessey?

  She probably has like a protein bowl.

• 2:04:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:04:17Amanda Dobbins?

  What's in the protein bowl? Is acai, is, is it protein? I don't think that is.

• 2:04:23Sean Fennessey?

  Um-

• 2:04:24Amanda Dobbins?

  It's superfood, but-

• 2:04:25Sean Fennessey?

  One seventy-five.

• 2:04:27Amanda Dobbins?

  One eighty, I've never had an acai bowl.

• 2:04:30Sean Fennessey?

  There's too many blueberries in it for me.

• 2:04:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, like I don't, it's just not a food set that-

• 2:04:35Sean Fennessey?

  You can have it for one eighty.

• 2:04:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Sick, okay.

• 2:04:38Sean Fennessey?

  It's a good get.

• 2:04:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Thanks, I'm excited.

• 2:04:40Sean Fennessey?

  It's also a Netflix movie.

• 2:04:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, whatever, I don't care. As I said, I exist outside of box office.

• 2:04:44Sean Fennessey?

  I exist for the cinema. That's what I exist for, which is why I acquired Superman.

• 2:04:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Cool.

• 2:04:50Sean Fennessey?

  Um, you put another movie up?

• 2:04:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Me?

• 2:04:53Sean Fennessey?

  I think so, no, CR. Well, I put up caught stealing.

• 2:04:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh yeah.

• 2:04:56Sean Fennessey?

  And I put up pasta dynamite. Okay, so then it'll be me.

• 2:04:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:02Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm.

• 2:05:07Sean Fennessey?

  How do I thread the needle here?

• 2:05:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know, Sean.

• 2:05:14Sean Fennessey?

  I'll put it was just an accident for $1 on the board. Jafar Panahi's Palme d'Or winning.

• 2:05:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Well.

• 2:05:21Sean Fennessey?

  New film acquired by Neon.

• 2:05:24Amanda Dobbins?

  And what is the release date? It does, it's October, right?

• 2:05:26Sean Fennessey?

  October.

• 2:05:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:28Sean Fennessey?

  Certainly one of the big awards contenders of the year. Iranian thriller.

• 2:05:32Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, it's not gonna do box office, but Oscar wise.

• 2:05:39Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I'll do 40 if you want it, you can take it from me.

• 2:05:42Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take it for 41.

• 2:05:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:05:45Sean Fennessey?

  Feel like I need to pump up those Oscar numbers and that Metacritic. Gotta get those numbers up. You know, what is Jafar Panahi's history? Those are rookie. On Metacritic, pump up those numbers. We get my quant on this.

• 2:05:59Amanda Dobbins?

  So.

• 2:05:59Sean Fennessey?

  He has a career average score of 82.

• 2:06:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:06:03Sean Fennessey?

  On Metacritic.

• 2:06:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, you're just, you're a wizard of strategy, Sean, and we're.

• 2:06:08Sean Fennessey?

  No Bears had a 93. 93? It was just an accident. Currently sits at 87.

• 2:06:17Amanda Dobbins?

  What?

• 2:06:18Sean Fennessey?

  You won Metacritic. Yeah.

• 2:06:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Congratulations.

• 2:06:20Sean Fennessey?

  So you pull it apart.

• 2:06:22Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't always, but right now I am. What's up with, um? If I have money left over.

• 2:06:29Speaker 02

  Oh, I have money left over. I don't.

• 2:06:30Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I know, but like, where does it go? Does it go away? Do I want to spend everything? Do I want to?

• 2:06:34Sean Fennessey?

  It goes right into the budget of Steel Magnolias 2. Yeah.

• 2:06:37Amanda Dobbins?

  But does it go back to me?

• 2:06:39Sean Fennessey?

  No, under no circumstances. So you've got $40 left.

• 2:06:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:06:43Sean Fennessey?

  I've got $378 left.

• 2:06:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 2:06:45Sean Fennessey?

  So good luck to you on whatever it is that you want.

• 2:06:48Amanda Dobbins?

  I know exactly what I'm gonna do. I'm not stressed at all. I just want to make sure I get the full title right. Uh, for $40, I'll take down Nabi, the grand finale.

• 2:06:56Amanda Dobbins?

  I know.

• 2:06:57Sean Fennessey?

  This is valueless though, because it will not cross $100 million. It will not get any Oscar nominations.

• 2:07:02Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll tell you what. I will tell you this.

• 2:07:04Sean Fennessey?

  Please stop pointing at me. What happened? Did this kick in?

• 2:07:12Sean Fennessey?

  I will tell you what.

• 2:07:13Amanda Dobbins?

  It's pure protein.

• 2:07:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:07:15Amanda Dobbins?

  I had the protein boost.

• 2:07:16Sean Fennessey?

  You actually are now more channeling Margaret Thatcher, I would say, if I had to choose a female leader. The Iron Lady.

• 2:07:22Amanda Dobbins?

  That's, I mean, listen, that's fine, except for my hair. It's actually not fine. Uh, that's not cool.

• 2:07:28Sean Fennessey?

  No. Because of her policies.

• 2:07:30Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm down, down with Margaret Thatcher, down with Maggie. You seen that YouTube clip of the Irish lady?

• 2:07:35Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 2:07:36Amanda Dobbins?

  That's one of the great ones. Um, the first film.

• 2:07:41Sean Fennessey?

  Wouldn't you just crashed out? What is going on?

• 2:07:45Amanda Dobbins?

  The first Down Abbey film made like 98 million dollars.

• 2:07:50Speaker 02

  As it continued its, its box office search.

• 2:07:53Amanda Dobbins?

  2022 was a weird year at the box office. And I have to tell you, Down Abbey, the grand tour, or whatever the second one was called, was an excellent film.

• 2:08:03Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. It was titled Down Abbey colon F1.

• 2:08:06Speaker 02

  There's nothing like getting two, two hours deep into a pod and having you on the verge of tears, as you recall, the box office performance of Down Abbey 2.

• 2:08:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Did you ever see Down Abbey 2?

• 2:08:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:08:17Amanda Dobbins?

  So Sybil, no, Sybil's dead. Sorry. Sybil's daughter.

• 2:08:22Sean Fennessey?

  You cannot do this right now.

• 2:08:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Inherits a mansion in France.

• 2:08:26Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:08:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Because, well, actually, I guess Lady Violet inherits it. That's, um, Maggie Smith.

• 2:08:32Speaker 02

  She's still on the show?

• 2:08:34Amanda Dobbins?

  In, in Down Abbey 2 was. Down Abbey 2, she was.

• 2:08:38Sean Fennessey?

  Forest Ghost Maggie Smith?

• 2:08:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, and but so then they all go to the south of France.

• 2:08:42Speaker 02

  Did you ever see Flight Plan?

• 2:08:44Amanda Dobbins?

  And the guy who is the, um, no, that's the Mel Gibson one, right?

• 2:08:48Sean Fennessey?

  This is like, I, I, we do every episode together. This is what it's like all the time.

• 2:08:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Like Rome, Rome, what was his name? The guy from the bureau who was like the handler who's not the main guy.

• 2:09:00Speaker 02

  Uh huh. I don't, I don't remember, honestly.

• 2:09:02Amanda Dobbins?

  He's his long lost cousin.

• 2:09:06Sean Fennessey?

  So Down Abbey one made $198 million worldwide. Down Abbey two made $92 million worldwide.

• 2:09:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Again, 2022.

• 2:09:17Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't care. As I said when we started this, I'm doing this for me.

• 2:09:21Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 2:09:22Amanda Dobbins?

  And I am fucking psyched for Down Abbey, the grand finale.

• 2:09:26Sean Fennessey?

  I'm on the record as enjoying all of these movies.

• 2:09:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:09:28Sean Fennessey?

  So Lily James will be appearing again as Lady Rose.

• 2:09:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Matthew Good is not available for one day to film. I guess he's being.

• 2:09:37Sean Fennessey?

  He is listed in the cast. He is listed in the cast of the grand finale.

• 2:09:40Speaker 02

  Yes. And he's not Scottish in Department Q. He's an Englishman.

• 2:09:43Amanda Dobbins?

  But he's in Scotland.

• 2:09:44Speaker 02

  Working in Edinburgh, yeah.

• 2:09:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:09:47Sean Fennessey?

  No, he's not listed. I lied.

• 2:09:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:09:51Amanda Dobbins?

  He's not.

• 2:09:52Sean Fennessey?

  It's too bad.

• 2:09:53Amanda Dobbins?

  He's not in the trailer.

• 2:09:53Speaker 02

  Do you really need a 50 ounce water if you're only gonna drink three ounces of it? Have you thought about that?

• 2:10:00Amanda Dobbins?

  It's true that I, my hydration goals have been.

• 2:10:04Speaker 02

  Stymied?

• 2:10:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Stymied by my embrace of the free iced latte.

• 2:10:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10:11Sean Fennessey?

  So.

• 2:10:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, but I do because then you don't have to refill it as much.

• 2:10:14Speaker 02

  And this is, this is your.

• 2:10:16Sean Fennessey?

  I can get anything I want for $378.

• 2:10:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:10:22Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm. Can you guys vamp for a second?

• 2:10:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 2:10:25Speaker 02

  Here's some movies that I was like, kind of considering throwing out there.

• 2:10:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah, tell us.

• 2:10:28Speaker 02

  Cause I don't think Sean's gonna throw any of these. Uh, Blue Moon, the Richard Linklater movie about Lawrence Hart, uh, and his night at Sardis with Ethan Hawke.

• 2:10:36Sean Fennessey?

  Very excited about that.

• 2:10:37Speaker 02

  Margaret Qualley, Andrew Scott, who apparently gives a wonderful performance in this film. And then a movie I would like to see with you.

• 2:10:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 2:10:44Speaker 02

  It's called Pressure.

• 2:10:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh huh.

• 2:10:46Speaker 02

  And it's directed by John Carney and it's about a meteorologist who has to give the D-Day weather forecast. And it also stars Andrew Scott.

• 2:10:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow. Yes.

• 2:10:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:10:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Let's go.

• 2:10:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, and there's an American guy in it, but it's not Scoot McNairy, but it was something where I was like, holy shit. There's an American guy in this.

• 2:11:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Pressure movie. I'm Googling it now. Well, no, that's about sea diving.

• 2:11:10Amanda Dobbins?

  But Matthew Good is apparently in the 2015 film Pressure. Pressure movie, Andrew Scott.

• 2:11:14Speaker 02

  Uh, the other one that I was really kind of fired up about, but I don't think Sean is gonna take.

• 2:11:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm hmm.

• 2:11:20Speaker 02

  Is Sacrifice, uh, which is the new film from, uh.

• 2:11:25Speaker 02

  Romaine Garvis, who made Athena? And this is a movie. What's that?

• 2:11:29Sean Fennessey?

  Gavris.

• 2:11:30Speaker 02

  Sorry. And this one's Anya Taylor-Joy and Chris Evans. And Anya Taylor-Joy plays a political radical who kidnaps a movie star played by Chris Evans.

• 2:11:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh.

• 2:11:39Sean Fennessey?

  Don't know if that's coming out this year.

• 2:11:40Speaker 02

  I just was saying that I'm interested.

• 2:11:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Is Nouvelle Vague coming out this year?

• 2:11:45Sean Fennessey?

  It is.

• 2:11:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. I mean, but also Netflix, which is why. I've got, I'm too heavy on Netflix.

• 2:11:51Speaker 02

  So also you don't miss lots.

• 2:11:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I know, but that's why I did Downton Abbey, the grand finale.

• 2:11:57Sean Fennessey?

  Can I throw out some things I'm thinking of?

• 2:11:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, sure.

• 2:12:01Sean Fennessey?

  I'm thinking of, on the Netflix side, Wake Up Dead Man, which feels like a return to a slightly more serious tone for Rian Johnson.

• 2:12:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:12:10Sean Fennessey?

  Starring Josh O'Connor as a priest, or is he?

• 2:12:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Or is he?

• 2:12:15Sean Fennessey?

  Frankenstein, GDT. I didn't think I'd have much competition for you guys, but I am looking forward to it.

• 2:12:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Child Papa.

• 2:12:23Sean Fennessey?

  You think Frankenstein will sing Child Papa in the film?

• 2:12:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Frankenstein is also a fascist.

• 2:12:29Speaker 02

  The doctor or the monster?

• 2:12:31Amanda Dobbins?

  No, Guillermo del Toro made, well, I mean, I think Pinocchio like maybe had fascist origins. I'm not really sure. But he was fascist in, yeah, he was in.

• 2:12:40Speaker 02

  You know what's crazy? Mussolini's grandson got signed by an Italian soccer. And he looks a lot like him.

• 2:12:49Sean Fennessey?

  That's great.

• 2:12:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Does he, he doesn't use Mussolini.

• 2:12:51Speaker 02

  He sure does. I don't know if you've visited Italy recently, but you're about to get a.

• 2:12:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:12:56Sean Fennessey?

  Does he do like the whole, the stance and the posture and the?

• 2:13:01Speaker 02

  No, looking him up.

• 2:13:05Sean Fennessey?

  The Secret Agent, I'm thinking about Clabber Mendocca Filo's movie, Brazilian film starring Wagner Mora.

• 2:13:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:13:15Sean Fennessey?

  Begonia?

• 2:13:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, you do see it. Yeah. Grazie.

• 2:13:20Speaker 02

  Mi ringrazio. Of course, he's playing Filazio.

• 2:13:27Sean Fennessey?

  Gosh.

• 2:13:31Sean Fennessey?

  The Mastermind?

• 2:13:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:32Sean Fennessey?

  Kelly Rickert's movie?

• 2:13:34Speaker 02

  Kelly Rickert. Hell, yeah.

• 2:13:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Is the drama coming out this year?

• 2:13:37Sean Fennessey?

  It's on my list. I don't know.

• 2:13:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:13:39Sean Fennessey?

  It's not dated.

• 2:13:40Amanda Dobbins?

  That's another one. That's the Robert Pattinson Zendaya

• 2:13:44Amanda Dobbins?

  824 experience. I'm open to it.

• 2:13:47Sean Fennessey?

  As you can see, it's so the movies I got left on my list, just to just to keep previewing things.

• 2:13:53Sean Fennessey?

  Predator Badlands, we briefly mentioned. I did put the Fantastic Four first steps on my list.

• 2:13:58Speaker 02

  It looks like Elifanning lives on a planet of predators.

• 2:14:00Sean Fennessey?

  It does. I believe she's an android.

• 2:14:02Speaker 02

  Well, she definitely gets like her eyes do something funny.

• 2:14:06Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 2:14:07Speaker 02

  But she seems like she's pretty human in her response to the.

• 2:14:10Sean Fennessey?

  We should do a watch along of Killer of Killers with Amanda, and she's never seen it before.

• 2:14:15Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:14:15Sean Fennessey?

  Animated Predator film.

• 2:14:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:14:17Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, it's an omnibus movie about four different figures in history who have gone toe to toe with a predator.

• 2:14:23Speaker 02

  You know how we were talking about Craigor?

• 2:14:24Amanda Dobbins?

  But don't tell me who they are.

• 2:14:26Sean Fennessey?

  I won't.

• 2:14:26Speaker 02

  I'm just saying.

• 2:14:27Sean Fennessey?

  It's Mary Poppins.

• 2:14:28Amanda Dobbins?

  But I would, are they like?

• 2:14:29Sean Fennessey?

  Julia Roberts on Mother's Day.

• 2:14:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Are they obscure pieces like figures in history?

• 2:14:34Sean Fennessey?

  They're archetypal. They're archetypal warriors.

• 2:14:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, but not Napoleon.

• 2:14:38Sean Fennessey?

  Not no famous figures in history more than, you know, it's like a Samurai.

• 2:14:43Amanda Dobbins?

  For the next movie. Okay.

• 2:14:44Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, okay, that's good. I would take that. Uh, Running Man?

• 2:14:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:14:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:14:50Sean Fennessey?

  Tron Ares?

• 2:14:50Speaker 02

  No, didn't CR take that in the first auction?

• 2:14:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes, he did.

• 2:14:53Speaker 02

  Running Man, I have, yes.

• 2:14:54Sean Fennessey?

  You did. That's right. Thank you, Jack.

• 2:14:55Speaker 02

  Tron Ares? No.

• 2:15:01Amanda Dobbins?

  There's another one I was interested in.

• 2:15:02Speaker 02

  Kaczynski did the first Tron reboot, right?

• 2:15:04Sean Fennessey?

  He did.

• 2:15:05Amanda Dobbins?

  You can take Smashing Machine.

• 2:15:07Sean Fennessey?

  I've already seen it.

• 2:15:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, so I should I should have thought of that.

• 2:15:10Speaker 02

  He has Marty Supreme.

• 2:15:11Sean Fennessey?

  You could have had the the Safdie double.

• 2:15:13Amanda Dobbins?

  I could have. In in my heart, I do.

• 2:15:16Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. I in my spiritual board, I have the Smashing Machine.

• 2:15:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:15:21Sean Fennessey?

  But unfortunately, I can't select it here. Um.

• 2:15:25Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take Predator Badlands, just for kicks.

• 2:15:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:15:28Sean Fennessey?

  Movie that's probably not going to score me too many points, but I'm super excited about. And, uh.

• 2:15:32Speaker 02

  Trachtenberg doesn't.

• 2:15:32Sean Fennessey?

  We're doing that for me, have fun list. Trachtenberg has been killing it. Ten Cloverfield Lane. Prey. Killer of killers.

• 2:15:42Speaker 02

  And, uh.

• 2:15:43Sean Fennessey?

  And now Predator Badlands. Well, we'll do it for $1.

• 2:15:46Speaker 02

  For $1. So we're all gonna walk out of here with cash.

• 2:15:48Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I didn't. I spent it all.

• 2:15:49Speaker 02

  Oh. Well, Sean and I know how to save.

• 2:15:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but it doesn't go anywhere, so.

• 2:15:55Speaker 02

  Well, we'll see.

• 2:15:55Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, listen to the weapons pod and see where that money goes, you know? That's what it's all about.

• 2:15:59Speaker 02

  Find these kids.

• 2:16:00Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, let's recap our picks. Chris, what do you have first?

• 2:16:02Speaker 02

  I got Ballad of a Small Player for $1.65, Weapons for $4.65. Is this thing on? $70. Now you see me, colon, now you don't, for $36.

• 2:16:17Speaker 02

  And for $60, I got Bruce Springsteen, Deliver Me From Nowhere.

• 2:16:25Speaker 02

  I'm fucking killing it. Look at that.

• 2:16:27Sean Fennessey?

  That's a really weird board.

• 2:16:29Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, you wouldn't want it any other way.

• 2:16:31Sean Fennessey?

  I'm happy for you. Avatar Fire and Ash for $300 for me. Superman for $62. Hamnet for $219. It was just an accident for $41. And Predator Badlands for $1.

• 2:16:44Amanda Dobbins?

  I got After the Hunt for $260. Roofman for $100. J. Kelly for $420. A House of Dynamite for $180. And Downton Abbey, the grand finale, for $40.

• 2:16:56Speaker 02

  I gotta say, you can be such a goofball and then like as soon as you do voiceover.

• 2:17:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Oh, thanks.

• 2:17:01Speaker 02

  And then I got House of Dynamite.

• 2:17:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:08Sean Fennessey?

  You, that was your NPR voice.

• 2:17:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I can do it too.

• 2:17:11Speaker 02

  I love it.

• 2:17:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you.

• 2:17:12Sean Fennessey?

  Um, the thing about this game, which is very stupid, is that you, we can put this graphic on social media. And people can be like, oh my God, this person did amazing. It's all contextual. It's all about the flow of the game, when it's happening.

• 2:17:25Speaker 02

  Maybe instead, we should just put a picture of Mussolini's grandson up.

• 2:17:29Sean Fennessey?

  We'll probably do better numbers.

• 2:17:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Great grandson.

• 2:17:31Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:31Speaker 02

  Great grandson.

• 2:17:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Just only, only because I Googled it.

• 2:17:36Sean Fennessey?

  That's it.

• 2:17:38Amanda Dobbins?

  That's a good one.

• 2:17:39Sean Fennessey?

  No other thoughts?

• 2:17:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:39Sean Fennessey?

  We were talking about Superman later this week.

• 2:17:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:41Sean Fennessey?

  We're seeing it tomorrow. How you feeling?

• 2:17:45Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm excited. I wish we had time for dinner beforehand.

• 2:17:48Sean Fennessey?

  Oh.

• 2:17:49Amanda Dobbins?

  You know?

• 2:17:49Sean Fennessey?

  Do we not? I guess we don't.

• 2:17:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, because of our children.

• 2:17:51Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, shoot. What about after? Can break it all down.

• 2:17:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 2:17:56Sean Fennessey?

  Talk about that immigrant story.

• 2:17:57Speaker 02

  No, you don't want to do the pod before the pod.

• 2:17:58Sean Fennessey?

  I know, it's tough.

• 2:17:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:17:59Sean Fennessey?

  You and Andy don't do that?

• 2:18:00Amanda Dobbins?

  That's true.

• 2:18:00Sean Fennessey?

  You guys text.

• 2:18:01Speaker 02

  We try not to. We text.

• 2:18:02Sean Fennessey?

  You text. Amanda and I rarely talk about the movie beforehand.

• 2:18:05Speaker 02

  Andy likes to text during his watching of episodes.

• 2:18:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, and how do you feel about that?

• 2:18:09Sean Fennessey?

  That sounds terrible.

• 2:18:10Speaker 02

  Well, it's usually quite charming, intelligent and funny, but I'm always like, save it for the pod.

• 2:18:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 2:18:16Sean Fennessey?

  It's tough.

• 2:18:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Now I'm hungry.

• 2:18:19Sean Fennessey?

  Thanks, thanks to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. No, thanks to Sam for cooking up this new scoring system. We'll see you for Superman. Bye.

• 2:19:16Speaker 05

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