The 2025 Movie Auction

Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to draft, in auction format, some of the movies they’re most excited for this year. They review the results and the rules from last year’s two auctions before launching into this year’s slate, including some mega-blockbusters like ‘Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning,’ ‘Jurassic World Rebirth,’ and ‘F1,’ as well as some smaller but still exciting indies like ‘Marty Supreme’ and ‘The Phoenician Scheme.’ Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Chris Ryan Senior Producer: Bobby Wagner Video Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 2:37Sean Fennessey?

  I'm Sean Fennessey.

• 2:38Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm Amanda Dobbins.

• 2:39Sean Fennessey?

  And this is The Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan, CR, the big-time auctioneering boy, is here with us today. It's January, which means we are auctioning once more on The Big Picture. Hi, Chris.

• 2:50Speaker 06

  Hi, what's going on?

• 2:52Sean Fennessey?

  Not too much. Before we began recording, you said to us, "Let's talk about Narnia on IMAX."

• 2:56Speaker 06

  It's the only thing I care about.

• 2:57Sean Fennessey?

  Huge news.

• 2:58Speaker 06

  There's nothing else in the news.

• 3:00Sean Fennessey?

  We are pivoting away from national politics today on The Big Picture to talk about

• 3:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, Christ.

• 3:05Sean Fennessey?

  theatrical distribution. The Netflix Corporation, which famously does not like to put its movies in movie theaters, has acquiesced reportedly, according to Matt Bellany in Puck and on The Town, to put Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation, November 2026, on 1,000 IMAX screens for at least two weeks.

• 3:25Speaker 06

  Up to a month.

• 3:26Sean Fennessey?

  Up to a month until it premieres on the service, I guess, on Christmas Day.

• 3:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 3:30Sean Fennessey?

  Does that all sound right?

• 3:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 3:32Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, how do you feel about this?

• 3:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Like, I mean, you go, Greta, I guess.

• 3:36Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 3:36Amanda Dobbins?

  That's cool.

• 3:37Speaker 06

  Am I detecting a little Narnia cynicism on your part?

• 3:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 3:40Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 3:41Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I read them, you know? There's a lion, there's a witch, there's a wardrobe.

• 3:45Speaker 06

  There's the three of those things.

• 3:46Amanda Dobbins?

  There's a closet.

• 3:47Sean Fennessey?

  This is giving, what is her legend?

• 3:49Amanda Dobbins?

  You go into the closet to get to the other world.

• 3:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 3:52Amanda Dobbins?

  And it's like all about religion and also, um...

• 3:58Speaker 06

  It's about religion.

• 3:59Amanda Dobbins?

  And, yeah. And, but it's, there are no like political ramifications. I don't really remember.

• 4:06Sean Fennessey?

  Let me ask you a question.

• 4:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 4:07Sean Fennessey?

  Do you fear God?

• 4:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. He seems pretty mad at us right now.

• 4:16Sean Fennessey?

  He does. He does. Things aren't going well. I thought this was an interesting thing that happened. When, when, in Matt's coverage of this story that has been going on for a while, he has consistently pointed to, I think, the most saber rattling but smartest thing about this, which is what is the knockdown effect of this. It's pretty cool that a big spectacle directed by one of the great living directors under the age of 50 gets to put a movie in movie theaters for a long period of time, especially a movie that's spectacle oriented.

• 4:40Amanda Dobbins?

  You turn 40 and you're immediately just bumped into the under the age of 50 category. What about under the age of 45?

• 4:46Sean Fennessey?

  That's not really a delineation anyone cares about, so.

• 4:48Speaker 06

  You made us like worship at your feet because you weren't 40 yet for such a long time and now we have to throw parade because you're not 50.

• 4:55Sean Fennessey?

  I'll tell you what, she's also under 60, so it could be worse.

• 4:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Like, just like help us out here. You know, I like, like, but I was saying to Bobby, you turn 40 and the switch flips and you gotta do resistance training and...

• 5:10Amanda Dobbins?

  But are you doing it?

• 5:11Speaker 06

  Resistance training?

• 5:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, how is your mountain training going?

• 5:15Speaker 06

  I haven't done that stuff. I, I, let's just say I had a self indulgent Christmas and it's bled into dry January.

• 5:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Are you still subscribed to the mountain thing or are you, do you pause your subscription?

• 5:26Speaker 06

  I still have a subscription to them, yes. Yeah. Talk to me a little bit about the precedent setting stuff. Do you think it really matters?

• 5:34Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know.

• 5:34Speaker 06

  Like, will Kathryn Bigelow be like, what about my missile strike movie?

• 5:37Sean Fennessey?

  It's possible, but she has less leverage. If I was Ryan Johnson, I'd be pretty fucking pissed about this. You know, he only got to put Knives Out 2 in theaters for five days. And that movie clearly would have made like $200 million at least if it had played in movie theaters because a ton of people watched it and they loved the original. Yeah, so.

• 5:55Amanda Dobbins?

  That was just okay.

• 5:56Sean Fennessey?

  It doesn't matter. Like, that's not really the point. Like, look at the top 10 highest grossing movies of the year.

• 6:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Maybe it matters to me.

• 6:02Sean Fennessey?

  Well, it's it's nice that you have a standard, but it this is a business conversation. No one gives a shit when you think about the movie.

• 6:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Great. I'm so glad that we just all put on our CEO hats this morning.

• 6:12Sean Fennessey?

  Well, it's relevant to what we do here.

• 6:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, my CEO hat.

• 6:14Sean Fennessey?

  That's right. You and Phil Knight, two of the great leaders in this space. I don't know what the I don't know what the precedent is. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what kind of movies Netflix wants to make. This feels like the last kind of a movie that they would want to make, given this new regime. They have new leadership in the movie studio. What is the point of making $300 million movies if you're Netflix when the same number of people will watch a $20 million movie? You know, Hot Frosty, how many fucking people watched that movie? It was made for whatever's in the back of my pocket right now. You know, like, it's just like.

• 6:42Speaker 06

  You do hold a lot of cash.

• 6:42Sean Fennessey?

  I do. I do.

• 6:43Amanda Dobbins?

  That is one of your most.

• 6:44Sean Fennessey?

  That was not an insult. Yes. I'm holding roughly 800 grand in my back pocket at the moment, which is why I have back problems, which we learned some years ago.

• 6:51Speaker 06

  I did.

• 6:52Sean Fennessey?

  Don't put your wallet in your back pocket.

• 6:54Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 6:55Sean Fennessey?

  Because it creates an imbalance in your spine.

• 6:57Speaker 06

  Don't do that if you also plan on being on your computer 14 hours a day.

• 7:00Sean Fennessey?

  Absolutely. If you are born with this posture, which I came out of the womb holding, not a good idea to put your wallet in your back pocket. Nevertheless, I I just think it's weird that they still make these huge movies. So.

• 7:10Amanda Dobbins?

  When did they agree to do this? I mean, it's like, this has been.

• 7:15Sean Fennessey?

  It was being negotiated pre Barbie release.

• 7:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 7:18Sean Fennessey?

  And then I think it got, my understanding is, is it got kind of jet streamed after the mega success.

• 7:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 7:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Right. But I think even that is 18 months ago now.

• 7:27Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm. Yeah.

• 7:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Would you agree, like, does 18, like now, would they agree to like a giant Greta Gerwig?

• 7:35Sean Fennessey?

  It's a good question.

• 7:36Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, I think things have changed so much, even in 18 months.

• 7:39Speaker 06

  That's a really good point. I didn't even think about that.

• 7:42Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, but so if you're but so if you're gonna do it, you might as well make money off of it, I guess?

• 7:48Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I guess they don't. I, in the past, they have not valued that dollar in the same way. And that they've created this insistence on everything being under the umbrella. And like, the way that they're going now. Between WWE, the NFL on Christmas.

• 8:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 8:05Sean Fennessey?

  The Tyson fight, the way that the, the way that the streamer is programming.

• 8:10Speaker 06

  It's just big ticket events.

• 8:12Sean Fennessey?

  It's television and it's, it's must see moments. And so you're not, it's not as must see if you're putting a movie in IMAX on a thousand screens out, you know, externally, I guess.

• 8:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, but if you're programming television, then you're essentially imagining yourself as the cable company.

• 8:32Speaker 06

  Capturing the audience.

• 8:33Amanda Dobbins?

  And so you add value to the thing that you make in theaters before you have it exclusively at home.

• 8:39Sean Fennessey?

  Right.

• 8:40Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I agree that that seems like.

• 8:43Sean Fennessey?

  That sounds like Peacock.

• 8:44Amanda Dobbins?

  You gotta spend more money to make money and that has not historically, since the correction, been their, uh, their MO. They wanna spend less money to make the money that they have because they can.

• 8:55Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 8:55Amanda Dobbins?

  But I don't know.

• 8:56Speaker 06

  Perhaps they know that all the kids on Red Note are talking about how Aslan is snatched and they just know that that's like really viable.

• 9:04Sean Fennessey?

  Is Aslan one of the characters from Narnia?

• 9:06Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 9:06Sean Fennessey?

  I haven't read The Chronicles of Narnia. I actually was hoping to read it to my daughter.

• 9:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's nice.

• 9:11Sean Fennessey?

  Just like an activity. I bought it for her before she was born.

• 9:14Speaker 06

  So you guys.

• 9:14Sean Fennessey?

  But I've never read it.

• 9:15Speaker 06

  That joke failed on like three levels then.

• 9:17Sean Fennessey?

  Aslan, I was like, what?

• 9:18Speaker 06

  Also Red Note?

• 9:19Sean Fennessey?

  What?

• 9:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I know. Well, I was gonna ask you about, are you gonna get into it?

• 9:22Speaker 06

  No.

• 9:22Amanda Dobbins?

  So, so this is on, okay, we're recording in advance, everyone.

• 9:26Speaker 06

  TikTok has been banned by the Supreme Court.

• 9:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, has it?

• 9:28Speaker 06

  Well.

• 9:29Amanda Dobbins?

  We are, when we're recording.

• 9:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 9:31Amanda Dobbins?

  It has been, yeah, but it is.

• 9:32Speaker 06

  This is up there with Hawk Tua, you know?

• 9:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I, I mean, what do you think?

• 9:35Sean Fennessey?

  Well, this is only two days in advance of release as opposed to six months.

• 9:38Amanda Dobbins?

  As opposed to four months. Um.

• 9:41Speaker 06

  Hawk Tua is on Red Note talking about Narnia.

• 9:44Sean Fennessey?

  Is that true?

• 9:44Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 9:45Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. Can you explain something to me?

• 9:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Can you?

• 9:48Sean Fennessey?

  What is Red Note?

• 9:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:49Speaker 06

  Red Note is like the Chinese, like, like in China TikTok.

• 9:54Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, I see.

• 9:55Speaker 06

  And now all the TikTok people are apparently signing up for Red Note and getting like, you know, they're just like.

• 10:00Sean Fennessey?

  Everyone wants to suckle at the teat of China. Interesting. Will you be joining Red Note?

• 10:06Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm letting go of TikTok, you know, even though I do, I feel like it's gonna be saved.

• 10:10Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 10:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, last minute.

• 10:11Sean Fennessey?

  Saved.

• 10:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, well.

• 10:13Sean Fennessey?

  As though we're a kitten ready to be drowned.

• 10:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Relax. Okay.

• 10:18Sean Fennessey?

  We don't need to save our platforms. It's okay. They can go away.

• 10:20Amanda Dobbins?

  We don't either. I'm, you know, I'm letting it go. I, I'm, I'm still on Instagram.

• 10:24Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 10:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, Mark Zuckerberg is, is cozying up to the interests once again. So I guess it'll stick around for a while and I can keep, you know.

• 10:33Sean Fennessey?

  If only there were a film about that.

• 10:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Use Reels and that'll be cool.

• 10:39Sean Fennessey?

  Do you, have you ever uploaded anything to Reels?

• 10:41Amanda Dobbins?

  No, not on purpose.

• 10:44Sean Fennessey?

  Cool. It's intriguing. Um, I don't know. The Narnia thing, I think if you think about it from the context of the big picture and the movie obsessives, uh, it seems like, oh, what do the precedent mean? Why didn't they do this for other movies? We can have that conversation. If you think about it from the WWE Tyson fight perspective, it's just an event.

• 11:02Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 11:03Sean Fennessey?

  And it's just a standalone thing. And your point about not spending money, it's like, they're not spending money on everything below the top 2%, but the top 2% they're still spending a ton of money on and seems smart. I don't know. Those guys are smart. They know what they're doing. They have completely destroyed the industry that I have built my entire life around, but, um, they have done an amazing job of making it feel like their service is the most essential entertainment commodity in the universe and

• 11:29Speaker 06

  Congrats.

• 11:29Sean Fennessey?

  They won.

• 11:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Good job to them.

• 11:31Sean Fennessey?

  Um, okay. I mean, that's interesting relative to the auction here because I'm, I, I wonder how many Netflix movies will be auctioned.

• 11:39Speaker 06

  You jumped right into the thing that I wanted to talk to you about because you have, uh,

• 11:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Segway Kings.

• 11:43Speaker 06

  One of my favorite elements of this is now your triggers. I love like all the little like rules so that we can actually judge whether the auction was successful or not, aside from my very equal distribution of funds.

• 11:55Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I have some issues there as well, which we can talk about. Some, I allocated perhaps too much to certain titles last year.

• 12:01Speaker 06

  Uh, I think there should be probably a penalty at a certain point if like you paid 350 for something that made 10 million dollars.

• 12:08Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, that's interesting.

• 12:09Speaker 06

  But we can get to that in the second half of the year. I did notice while going through the list of things that have been announced or at least heavily rumored for this year, how much of it was Netflix?

• 12:20Amanda Dobbins?

  And how do we evaluate the box office for something that is a Netflix film?

• 12:25Sean Fennessey?

  Should it be a, does it go to number one on Netflix?

• 12:27Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, okay, but like, we've seen what's on like on that chart, right?

• 12:32Sean Fennessey?

  Well, that that does add an intriguing wrinkle to the kind of movie you might want to auction. I think, you know, a lot of times when we're doing the drafts and the auctions, the feedback is always like, just draft the movie you like the most. And I'm like, we're playing a game. The whole point of this is for it to be a game. The triggers are part of a game. It's not meant to be like, we get to say what we actually like in every other episode of the show. So to me, in the gamified respect, trying to choose which Netflix movie will go to number one is a weird game to try to win.

• 13:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 13:01Sean Fennessey?

  So I don't know. I mean, it's a good point that you're making. I don't know that I have any Netflix movies at the top of my auctioning list though, with the exception of the one we mentioned at the end of last week's last episode.

• 13:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Correct.

• 13:12Sean Fennessey?

  The Noel Baumbach movie.

• 13:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Right. I need them to rename that movie because I can't remember the name of it.

• 13:17Sean Fennessey?

  I'm getting confused with Jay Feely, the field goal kicker.

• 13:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 13:20Sean Fennessey?

  Um, and Jay Kelly is just too close to Jay Feely.

• 13:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Would Baumbach get a month in IMAX if he had a Jay Feely biography?

• 13:28Sean Fennessey?

  Not the worst idea in the world for Baumbach to do a sports dramedy. Um, if you've never heard a movie auction before, I'll give you a brief outline of the rules and then we'll talk about how we did last year with our two sets of auctions. So each bidder gets $1,000 of fake money to up to bid on these movies. Each film on our slate must have a 2025 release date or an almost certain expectation of release in this calendar year. Our slates must total five movies for this episode, five movies for the next episode we do in July. Bidders open with each new title in a snake fashion. We'll determine the order shortly. You have 30 seconds to make a new bid before the movie goes to the current bid holder, which we never hold to. Movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions.

• 14:10Amanda Dobbins?

  We have a clock in studio now.

• 14:12Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, we do.

• 14:13Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, is it too, like, how can we reset it? Can we have Jack running it? Hi, Jack.

• 14:19Sean Fennessey?

  I would press the on button.

• 14:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, I've, I've heard of it. Do you think you can do it? Can you set it up now?

• 14:25Sean Fennessey?

  Coming right now, yeah.

• 14:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, come on in. Let's do it. This is podcasting, baby.

• 14:29Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. Putting the clock on is gonna really reveal to you. How lenient I have been over the years.

• 14:34Speaker 06

  I know.

• 14:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Can we put the clock in a way that everyone can see it? You know what I mean?

• 14:41Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 14:42Amanda Dobbins?

  This is exciting.

• 14:43Sean Fennessey?

  Well, let's talk about those category triggers that Chris cited. For anybody who doesn't remember from last year, we did add a bunch to determine a winner and make yourself eligible for a win. Now, I don't know how we determine the winner after we go through the triggers, but the triggers that I set were at least two of your 10 films must gross $100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations. Now, we haven't yet heard the Oscar nominations, but

• 15:09Speaker 06

  Could safely assume.

• 15:10Sean Fennessey?

  Pretty good idea on a few of these. At least one of your films must hit an 85 Metascore on Metacritic. I did note that only 13 films hit that number in the US in 2023. I don't know how many did it in 2024. We could look that up. And then no more than two sequels. And I want to give us credit for what we did last time because last year was a very sequel-heavy year. In fact, a lot of original stuff got pushed out of the slate in 2024. And we did pretty well by that. Everyone abided by the sequel rule. Now, do you want to individually recap?

• 15:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 15:44Sean Fennessey?

  How we did? Who wants to go first? Chris, do you want to go first?

• 15:47Speaker 06

  Sure. I did Dune Part Two. I spent $243 on that. It crossed $100 million at the box office. It was a sequel. We live in time for $375 and did Zilch.

• 15:58Sean Fennessey?

  Wait, did? Did you see that movie?

• 16:01Speaker 06

  No.

• 16:02Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 16:02Speaker 06

  Do you have to see the movie if you've auctioned it?

• 16:04Sean Fennessey?

  I'm just curious because I want to talk to someone about it.

• 16:05Speaker 06

  But that should also be a penalty if you don't, if you actually wind up not seeing it.

• 16:09Amanda Dobbins?

  It did give us the Andrew Garfield revival of 2024 into 2025.

• 16:16Sean Fennessey?

  A remarkable press tour.

• 16:17Speaker 06

  I, yes.

• 16:18Sean Fennessey?

  Concluding in the David Yurman pendant on the Golden Globes.

• 16:21Speaker 06

  Yes, I'm well aware of that part.

• 16:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Has that been replaying a lot in your, in your home?

• 16:27Speaker 06

  Not on, not on my algorithm. Phoebe is away.

• 16:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:30Speaker 06

  Gladiator Two, 380 bucks, crossed $100 million at the box office. It was a sequel. Speak No Evil for a dollar, did nothing. Horizon and American Saga for a dollar. Is the number one movie on Netflix for a while.

• 16:43Sean Fennessey?

  That is true.

• 16:45Speaker 06

  Then I had in the second auction, The Instigators for 130 bucks. It was an Apple movie and did nothing. A Real Pain, $200, two Academy Award nominations and an 86 Metacritic score.

• 16:56Sean Fennessey?

  Congratulations to you.

• 16:57Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 16:57Sean Fennessey?

  That was a good pick. I don't remember you taking that.

• 16:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 16:59Speaker 06

  Uh, Blink Twice for 50 bucks, Heretic for 300 dollars. Could get a Hugh Grant nomination out of that, I guess, but probably not.

• 17:05Sean Fennessey?

  You might.

• 17:05Speaker 06

  And The Order for 320 dollars.

• 17:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Which is the most Chris Ryan thing.

• 17:09Speaker 06

  But I actually loved that movie, so that was cool.

• 17:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, you're speaking your truths.

• 17:12Sean Fennessey?

  I feel like with a different studio, that movie would have made more money at the box office, too. Everybody I talked to who's seen The Order really liked it.

• 17:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:17Sean Fennessey?

  Obviously, it's a lot of guys who were like, I'm into movies like The Order. But they did all like The Order.

• 17:21Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm gonna put, I put it on my list at some point.

• 17:24Sean Fennessey?

  To watch at some point.

• 17:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 17:26Speaker 06

  Yeah. That could get dangerous if it's like a bunch of guys being like, I really liked The Order.

• 17:30Sean Fennessey?

  That is dangerous. In fact, I think that's what that film is about.

• 17:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 17:33Sean Fennessey?

  Um, okay. You want me to go?

• 17:36Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll go.

• 17:36Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, Amanda, you go.

• 17:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, so first I got Challengers for 150 dollars, which in some ways is the fucking deal of the century. And also met none of the things, including the Metacritic score, which I, like, I object. You know, like, I just, I think that's fucked up and critics need to look inside themselves.

• 17:55Speaker 06

  It could still get two Oscar nominations if it gets screenplay and score, right?

• 17:58Sean Fennessey?

  It could.

• 17:59Amanda Dobbins?

  That is true. Okay, so that would be nice. Uh, I got Maxine for 75 bucks, which was a sequel and I guess was funny to everyone. And I saw Maxine, so.

• 18:08Speaker 06

  I watched it on a plane.

• 18:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, yeah.

• 18:09Sean Fennessey?

  I bet you did.

• 18:10Amanda Dobbins?

  You know what? That's where they filmed a lot of Psycho. Um.

• 18:13Sean Fennessey?

  Where, how did you navigate?

• 18:15Amanda Dobbins?

  A giant Bates Motel sign. Anyway, um, got Blitz for 385 dollars, which is, did nothing and bad on its own. And also, I think I could have rebought it for less. So, listen, like, when you fuck up, you fuck up. And I fucked up. Uh, Twisters for 350 bucks, sequel and across 100 million dollars box office. Thank you so much. Uh, and then I got The Bike Riders for 40 dollars, which is a film I enjoyed. So that worked out for me. Then Conclave for 205 bucks.

• 18:46Sean Fennessey?

  Good get.

• 18:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Will get two Oscar nominations. Thanks so much. Trap for 345 dollars. Uh, listen, everyone else let me down. Um.

• 18:55Sean Fennessey?

  The Metacritic score on this movie is not good.

• 18:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I think that this could have made money, but people just don't have this, their strength of their convictions or an open mind, and that's their loss.

• 19:08Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting how you framed that.

• 19:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, Wolf's, everyone let me down and everyone let, uh, what, John Watts down, according to him, I guess.

• 19:19Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 19:21Amanda Dobbins?

  I got-

• 19:21Sean Fennessey?

  We should just do a pod where you just go down the box office receipts for every single film release.

• 19:24Amanda Dobbins?

  And say who let who down?

• 19:27Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 19:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Put a place where the blame lies, yeah. That's Amanda's YouTube response to the syllabi. Yeah. She just does that instead, straight into the camera.

• 19:35Sean Fennessey?

  Miklosiyan goes, "The roundup, you let me down. Hungary let me down."

• 19:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, queer for $225, I let myself down on this in the, just because I haven't seen it yet.

• 19:47Speaker 06

  It also could get Oscar nom.

• 19:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, it could get an Oscar nom. And listen, I stand by Luca Guadagnino. I enjoy the work of Justin Kritsky's. I enjoy the work of Daniel Craig. Uh, I enjoy Mexico City, though I'm told they didn't actually film there, so that's tough.

• 19:59Sean Fennessey?

  No, it was filmed in Italy.

• 20:00Speaker 06

  In a-

• 20:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I like Italy.

• 20:02Sean Fennessey?

  Chinita.

• 20:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I like Chinita too. Uh, and then I got Baby Girl for $5.

• 20:08Sean Fennessey?

  Good, that was good, but it-

• 20:09Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, that was good, but like the critics aren't helping me and, uh, the public is slacking on its duty to go see box office sensations.

• 20:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 20:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Like trap.

• 20:19Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, so sadly you are missing one $100 million domestic earner and you're also missing an 85 Metacritic.

• 20:25Amanda Dobbins?

  But like, I, I don't acknowledge the second one, you know, like, I, like, I'm sorry.

• 20:31Sean Fennessey?

  Sadly, you must.

• 20:32Speaker 06

  You don't acknowledge the second one what?

• 20:33Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't acknowledge, yeah. I just like, that's actually bullshit.

• 20:36Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 20:37Amanda Dobbins?

  And I'm creating my own world.

• 20:38Sean Fennessey?

  Specifically because of-

• 20:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Listen, this is Monday, January 20th, that's allowed now, so.

• 20:43Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, okay.

• 20:44Amanda Dobbins?

  By the way, it's a, it's 26 movies in 2024 that hit 85 or higher on Metacritic.

• 20:49Sean Fennessey?

  26?

• 20:50Amanda Dobbins?

  What? So double from 2023. Read them, and I'll just give you a yes or no of whether they deserve it.

• 20:55Sean Fennessey?

  Oh dear god.

• 20:55Speaker 06

  Oh my god.

• 20:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Okay. Uh, Daughters, The Wild Robot. I haven't seen him.

• 21:01Sean Fennessey?

  What's Daughters?

• 21:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Close Your Eyes, The Seed of the Sacred Fig.

• 21:06Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 21:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Dahomey, A Real Pain, I Saw the TV Glow. It doesn't, no, wait, keep going. Challengers doesn't get it and A Real Pain does? Okay, keep going.

• 21:16Speaker 06

  Why are you so mad at A Real Pain?

• 21:18Sean Fennessey?

  I'm not the critics.

• 21:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, Flo, good one.

• 21:22Speaker 06

  Pictures of ghosts, Hard Truths, About Dry Grasses, The Brutalist, Green Border, Sugarcane, No Other Land, La Chimera, Enora, Totem, Soundtrack to a Kuduta, Ryuchi Sakamoto, Opus, Nickel Boys, Here. Here coming in at number four.

• 21:41Sean Fennessey?

  No, not that here. Boss Devoce is here. Not Robert Zemeckis is here.

• 21:45Speaker 06

  All We Imagine is Light Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell and Do Not Expect Too Much From the End of the World.

• 21:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 21:51Sean Fennessey?

  No, the thing is, the challenge of this category.

• 21:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 21:54Sean Fennessey?

  Specifically, or this trigger, I should say, is that very few of those movies got a wide release, which means that.

• 22:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 22:00Sean Fennessey?

  They had fewer reviews. And in fact, they're a lot, you know, they're basically mostly arthouse films, international films.

• 22:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 22:07Sean Fennessey?

  And documentaries. So this trigger means you need to identify.

• 22:12Speaker 06

  A small arthouse film.

• 22:14Sean Fennessey?

  No, no, no, no, no. To me, it's about identifying the film that will kind of triangulate a lot of these things. Like, I'll give you an example. I picked Enora after it won the Palme d'Or.

• 22:24Amanda Dobbins?

  That was smart.

• 22:25Sean Fennessey?

  Having a strong feeling that it would do that. And in fact, it has a 91 Metacritic score. So.

• 22:30Speaker 06

  Did we, we did our auction.

• 22:31Amanda Dobbins?

  I picked Challengers, having like a core belief system. And most of the world agreed with it.

• 22:37Sean Fennessey?

  Uh huh.

• 22:38Amanda Dobbins?

  And.

• 22:38Sean Fennessey?

  The way that you talk is why the Crusades happened. I just want you to know that. Like, this, this intractability around your own beliefs.

• 22:46Speaker 06

  Edward Norton in Kingdom of Heaven was being like.

• 22:50Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, here's my lineup. If for the first auction, I got Hitman for $275. Film simply did not open in a box office. I selected Mickey 17 for $3, not released.

• 23:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 23:01Sean Fennessey?

  Now, should there be a, like a penalty for that is also a question we've talked about in the past. Furiosa, a Mad Max saga for $375. That is a sequel. Megalopolis.

• 23:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 23:12Sean Fennessey?

  For $345.

• 23:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 23:15Sean Fennessey?

  No, nothing there. Nosferatu for $1. Now, that may turn out to be the steal of the draft if it gets to $100 million domestic, which it might. It's, I think it's at 86 million right now. So it's possible it gets to 100.

• 23:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. So now I can't go see it in theaters. Because I don't want you to win.

• 23:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Fuck.

• 23:34Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I already hit all the triggers. It doesn't matter because I did hit the other triggers. But the second auction is where I, I, I hit all the spots.

• 23:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but at what cost?

• 23:43Sean Fennessey?

  Well, this isn't my best lineup. I'm going to share it with you right now. Enora for $410.91 Metacritic score.

• 23:48Speaker 06

  Did we do the auction after Cannes last year?

• 23:50Sean Fennessey?

  We did.

• 23:51Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 23:51Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, because in Cannes in May, we do the auction in like the first week of July.

• 23:55Speaker 06

  Oh, I see.

• 23:55Sean Fennessey?

  So this is, that's something to think about as we go to the next one, too. It's sort of like, do we get more aggressive in the second half of the year? In addition to that, Moana 2 I got for $1, which in a way is a good grab because it was, it was a sequel, but it crossed 100 million quite easily. Emilia Perez for $150.

• 24:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, yeah.

• 24:10Sean Fennessey?

  I'd not seen the film at the time. It was acclaimed out of Cannes. It will garner two Oscar nominations, so it helps me. Really not a movie I love, so that's tough. The Wild Robot, which did cross 100 million dollars domestic and as Bob mentioned, also had an 85 Metacritic score. And then Night Bitch for $321, which is a movie that I have affection for, but did not hit any of the categories.

• 24:33Amanda Dobbins?

  I've thought about it since I saw it. Yeah.

• 24:35Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I.

• 24:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I mean.

• 24:37Sean Fennessey?

  It's too bad we missed out on a chance to really dig into that one. That would have been an interesting discussion for us, especially at the stage of your life. So I did hit the triggers. Chris did hit the triggers. Amanda did not. Where, where do we go from here?

• 24:49Speaker 06

  What do you mean, where do we go from here?

• 24:51Sean Fennessey?

  Do we post it on Red Note? Like, what's the move?

• 24:54Speaker 06

  Oh, like, what's the award?

• 24:55Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, who wins?

• 24:56Speaker 06

  Um, that's a really great question. Should we, should we, should we sweeten it? Should we, should we throw like a loser buys dinner kind of thing? Not this year because you didn't know, you may have drafted differently.

• 25:07Amanda Dobbins?

  That's fine, I can buy you dinner. I'm a working woman.

• 25:11Sean Fennessey?

  Which is the sequel to the Jason Statham film coming in March.

• 25:14Speaker 06

  Working woman. She's just going around buying guys dinner.

• 25:19Speaker 06

  Saying thank you for your podcast.

• 25:22Speaker 06

  I've gotten so much joy out of the watch, I just have to take you to get a steak.

• 25:26Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, I've seen men make that offer to you in the past. A lot of guys looking longingly into your eyes. Buying dinner, I think, is a good, is a good way to go. Now, do we get to choose where we eat?

• 25:37Speaker 06

  Yes, the winners do.

• 25:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 25:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I mean, I think that's only fair.

• 25:42Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:42Sean Fennessey?

  Where would you like to go, Jumbo's Clown Room?

• 25:45Speaker 06

  Do they serve food there?

• 25:47Sean Fennessey?

  In a manner of speaking, yeah.

• 25:50Sean Fennessey?

  I think they do, actually. I've not been to Jumbo's before.

• 25:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:53Sean Fennessey?

  Have you been?

• 25:54Speaker 06

  No.

• 25:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Close your house.

• 25:56Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's nearby.

• 25:57Sean Fennessey?

  You know what would be a nice gesture?

• 25:59Speaker 06

  Cheetahs is right by my house, too, but I think that's closed.

• 26:01Sean Fennessey?

  Cheetahs, you and I almost walked into a couple times in the past. We never actually did it. Where it was real like, do you think they have Amstel Light in there? You know, like just trawling around Hollywood Boulevard? Cheetahs is still open?

• 26:12Speaker 06

  I can't tell.

• 26:13Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 26:13Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's the building is still there and the sign is still there.

• 26:16Sean Fennessey?

  You been in there?

• 26:17Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I haven't. I've parked in front of it many times.

• 26:20Speaker 06

  For Cabell?

• 26:20Amanda Dobbins?

  I went to therapy in a building between Cheetahs and Homestead many times.

• 26:24Sean Fennessey?

  So has many men. Many, many men have entered that therapy building.

• 26:29Amanda Dobbins?

  One of those like apartment looking buildings is actually like an office building and I, my therapist's office was there for a long time.

• 26:35Speaker 06

  It's cool.

• 26:36Amanda Dobbins?

  You know?

• 26:36Sean Fennessey?

  You doing double duty? Day shift, night shift next door?

• 26:39Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, like the, the way therapy works is that it's like the, that office is the boundary, you know? What happens and outside?

• 26:47Speaker 06

  Oh, have you ever seen your therapist at like Sprouts or anything?

• 26:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, no.

• 26:51Sean Fennessey?

  I know that there's a discussion often with a therapist. It's sort of like, if you see me, you may acknowledge me or you may not. This is your choice.

• 26:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, right, right. Um, my New York therapist once asked if we ran into each other at the beach, if she would be comfortable, if I would be comfortable with her saying hello and introducing herself to Zach and I, she's awesome. Sylvia, I love you forever. So I said yes, but we had to ask.

• 27:13Speaker 06

  Did she come up and be like, I know all about you?

• 27:16Amanda Dobbins?

  We never saw her.

• 27:18Sean Fennessey?

  Um.

• 27:20Speaker 06

  This one, am I right?

• 27:21Sean Fennessey?

  We, we should, perhaps in David Lynch's honor, we should have dinner at Bob's Big Boy.

• 27:26Speaker 06

  That's, you know what I thought about going last night?

• 27:28Sean Fennessey?

  Too much of a scene.

• 27:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 27:29Sean Fennessey?

  Too much of a scene. There was, there was a, a lot of flowers and things that were there for him. Yeah, yeah. A lot of people left stuff behind us online. Um.

• 27:37Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm sorry. My instinct is to close it.

• 27:40Sean Fennessey?

  It's like an intimidation tactic, you know? It's like when a sheriff walks into a saloon and he reveals his holster. Yeah, exactly.

• 27:46Speaker 06

  The water bottle that pushed me over the edge?

• 27:50Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, so I guess we'll post this online and people will say whether Chris or I won.

• 27:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I mean, there are some basic.

• 27:57Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know what else we could do. We could let Bob decide who had a better slate.

• 28:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Well.

• 28:01Sean Fennessey?

  That's subjective.

• 28:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Are there any, like, who met more of the Markers?

• 28:07Speaker 06

  We, you know? Do Sean and I equally meet Markers?

• 28:10Sean Fennessey?

  I think I have two films that crossed 85, but that wasn't a parameter to have more.

• 28:15Speaker 06

  Right.

• 28:15Sean Fennessey?

  Necessarily.

• 28:16Amanda Dobbins?

  What's your second 85?

• 28:17Sean Fennessey?

  The Wild Robot.

• 28:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's right.

• 28:20Sean Fennessey?

  The Wild Robot, to me, is a kind of movie that you're like, not because it's animated, I'm not making a bit out of it. Like, that's kind of what I'm getting at, where it's like, that's a movie that could potentially hit. It, it's, in all likelihood, it's gonna get animated feature and it could get, um, score as well. And so it could have two Oscar nominations, $100 million at the box office, plus an 85 Metacritic score. That's a very difficult to accomplish. I would wager a guess that, is it possible this is the only movie that will do that?

• 28:46Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 28:47Sean Fennessey?

  You know what I'm saying?

• 28:48Speaker 06

  You're right. I'm thinking about this differently now. You've changed my, my psychology.

• 28:52Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 28:52Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 28:53Sean Fennessey?

  That's great. That was part of the idea with the triggers. I was like, these are getting too bland.

• 28:56Speaker 06

  Well, it's also just like, let's not repeat anticipated movies. Let's, let's try to like, hit these.

• 29:00Sean Fennessey?

  Exactly.

• 29:00Speaker 06

  All right, let's try this.

• 29:01Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 29:03Sean Fennessey?

  Um, Bobby, do you want to help us set the snake draft auctioning order?

• 29:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes, of course. Less consequential here, who actually comes out on top, but it still matters. Amanda, we will have you nominate first. Okay. Intriguing.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  And nominating second, oh, we got Amanda again. Stay winning.

• 29:31Amanda Dobbins?

  It's my year.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  Will be Chris.

• 29:35Sean Fennessey?

  Do you feel like it is your year?

• 29:37Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, Sean, I really don't.

• 29:38Sean Fennessey?

  You don't? You don't think so?

• 29:42Amanda Dobbins?

  I had one day back at work before things really went chaotic again. So, listen, it's, I mean, I'm not complaining. I like, seriously, I'm not. We're incredibly lucky. But like, I mean, so far, the evidence would suggest.

• 29:56Sean Fennessey?

  What would have to happen for it to be your year?

• 30:00Speaker 02

  Should have to be red pilled.

• 30:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're really into the ninja creamy Reddit at that point.

• 30:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Um, I mean, I just like, what, what am I supposed to make of it besides ice cream? You know, like, I, I looked, but then I felt.

• 30:13Speaker 06

  I think it's like what you're putting into the ice cream. It's like, how much protein powder can you put in there?

• 30:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Like, you really want one? Why?

• 30:20Speaker 02

  Uh, I'm, I like ice cream. I like the experience of eating ice cream, but I'm really sensitive to too sweet, like too much sweets. I just have kind of like a weak stomach for that.

• 30:29Amanda Dobbins?

  So it's not from a macro boys perspective?

• 30:31Speaker 02

  Well, it is from a macro boys because then I could kind of control better for what actually goes into it, you know?

• 30:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Yeah, but when I read it, it's just like they're putting in 45 different powders. Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 02

  Yeah. And as we've heard, protein powder hasn't.

• 30:46Amanda Dobbins?

  And I'm like, at some point, I'm like, is, maybe the sugar is just better for me than this concoction of whatever.

• 30:54Speaker 06

  Of way.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  I think it depends on what you're putting into it. I think a lot of people are going like Greek yogurt as well, you know?

• 30:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I know. It's true. And some people are like using it for fruit and, and you can make sorbets and stuff. Sorbets are not for Amanda, but anyway.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  All the macro boys are like, I eat 72 ounces of egg whites every day. And I'm like, I don't think I can do that.

• 31:11Speaker 06

  Well, because you're supposed to have a gram of protein for every pound of your body weight.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 31:15Amanda Dobbins?

  If you're.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  And I do that. Yes.

• 31:17Amanda Dobbins?

  If you're, if you're like trying to swallow.

• 31:18Speaker 06

  If you're trying to get gains. If you're just do, if you're just being a woman.

• 31:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, thank you. I mean, but it's more, I'll tell you, that's another speech I got.

• 31:26Speaker 06

  Is it two thirds of your body weight?

• 31:27Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I think it depends on what your fitness goals are.

• 31:29Amanda Dobbins?

  But that's usually a good benchmark. Which is a lot.

• 31:32Speaker 06

  I know. I know. That's why I'm half chicken right now.

• 31:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I mean, I had to throw out a lot of Greek yogurt last week.

• 31:39Speaker 06

  Um, so you're up first.

• 31:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's right. You know what? I think I'm gonna keep it pure and simple and build a sense of community here at the table until we take it all away. And I'm just gonna do Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning a hundred bucks.

• 31:58Sean Fennessey?

  I think that's the right.

• 32:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Can we start the clock?

• 32:01Speaker 06

  Or should we just like look at it and get a sense of it? I have, I have, I have a timer here.

• 32:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Um.

• 32:07Speaker 06

  I can just get my phone and we'll do.

• 32:08Amanda Dobbins?

  I, well.

• 32:08Sean Fennessey?

  You're promoting both Nike and Apple today. It's amazing how you've been really two of the biggest corporations in America somehow working in unison on a person.

• 32:16Speaker 06

  I was actually self-conscious about that, so thanks for pointing it out. I didn't know. Mal, so when I came to Alice's second birthday, I believe it was.

• 32:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Clock is running a hundred bucks.

• 32:26Sean Fennessey?

  He was about to tell a touching story of being involved in my life.

• 32:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that was thirty seconds according to the clock. So do I get it for a hundred bucks?

• 32:31Speaker 06

  No, you don't. Hold on.

• 32:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, well, I'm just saying.

• 32:36Sean Fennessey?

  I tried to tell you guys that this is not how it's been working.

• 32:39Speaker 06

  A hundred and twenty dollars.

• 32:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, so Alice's second birthday.

• 32:42Sean Fennessey?

  One twenty-five.

• 32:42Speaker 06

  And I wore Nike's with Adidas socks and Mallory made fun of me mercilessly for like twenty minutes. And I actually did broadcast to her that it wasn't really that fun for me to hear from her about this.

• 32:54Sean Fennessey?

  He said it was hurtful. Yeah.

• 32:55Speaker 06

  I was just like, it's like a hundred degrees. We're at a child's birthday party. I grabbed a pair of socks and a different pair of sneakers, like, nobody cares. And she's like, that is a huge foul. What, you broke a cardinal rule of of streetwear.

• 33:08Sean Fennessey?

  The auction is one twenty-five right now, by the way.

• 33:10Speaker 06

  Uh, and I was like, I got very self-conscious about it. But then as I walked out the door today, I was like, man, I am a little Nike'd up.

• 33:17Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. What's, I mean, is there something wrong with it?

• 33:18Speaker 06

  No.

• 33:19Sean Fennessey?

  No. Are you a slave to capitalism? You are.

• 33:21Speaker 06

  Well, I got this hat because Tommy Fleetwood wore it. I thought it might be for me.

• 33:24Sean Fennessey?

  The golfer Tommy Fleetwood.

• 33:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 33:26Speaker 06

  Was it, we're at one twenty-five for you?

• 33:28Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I had one thirty for me.

• 33:29Speaker 06

  One fifty.

• 33:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, Nike's don't fit my feet.

• 33:33Sean Fennessey?

  Sounds like a you problem.

• 33:34Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, it is a me problem, but I'm just putting it out there for people who might feel excluded by this, you know, like a big night.

• 33:39Sean Fennessey?

  This kind of circles back to our.

• 33:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Trying to participate in the culture.

• 33:42Sean Fennessey?

  Have beautiful feet.

• 33:43Amanda Dobbins?

  But, yeah, but I mean, this, I at least know that it's like a toe bet. What did you say? 155?

• 33:48Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 200.

• 33:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay. 205. Um, it's like, yeah, it's about the width or the narrowness of the, and the toe bet. And I think there's also like a slant issue. I, I mean, I don't know. It's just not working for me.

• 34:01Speaker 06

  I'm sorry.

• 34:02Sean Fennessey?

  It's too bad.

• 34:03Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm, I like Asics and I like, I recently have gotten into New Balances with the rest of my family.

• 34:08Sean Fennessey?

  Can I tell you a story?

• 34:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 34:09Sean Fennessey?

  Just yesterday, acquired my first pair of Reeboks in my entire life.

• 34:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, I like that for you.

• 34:14Sean Fennessey?

  Just the classic all white tennis shoe. Yeah.

• 34:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Those are cool.

• 34:17Speaker 06

  The club, Club 80.

• 34:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, exactly.

• 34:19Speaker 06

  Whatever they're called.

• 34:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, I've been thinking about a, what's basically like Euro Reeboks, which are called Autries. You guys know about those?

• 34:26Sean Fennessey?

  215.

• 34:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't. No.

• 34:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 34:30Speaker 06

  No, I'm, I'm, I'm very interested though.

• 34:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, okay. It's, I, they're like big in France.

• 34:35Sean Fennessey?

  Oh.

• 34:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, but they're like quoting, you know, it's like France's idea of America.

• 34:40Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah, sure.

• 34:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, although I think they are American. I, I don't really know. I just, this is what I do for fun.

• 34:45Sean Fennessey?

  Sort of the Emilia Perez of sneakers.

• 34:47Speaker 06

  215, 250.

• 34:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 34:50Sean Fennessey?

  250?

• 34:50Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 34:51Sean Fennessey?

  Where are you at on Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part Two?

• 34:53Speaker 06

  I was like.

• 34:54Sean Fennessey?

  The final.

• 34:55Speaker 06

  I'm very excited for it, as I am for any Mission Impossible film. Macquarie coming out and saying they screened a bit of it and the guy at the theater that they screened it at almost had a heart attack because of one of the stunts. Got me a little bit more hype.

• 35:09Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, just a little.

• 35:11Speaker 06

  I'm worried that too much of it will be like saying goodbye to Ethan and all he's given us.

• 35:16Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 35:17Speaker 06

  And it's just not really why I go to those movies.

• 35:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Did you say 255 yet?

• 35:20Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 35:21Amanda Dobbins?

  255.

• 35:22Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think that they should replace Ethan with Barack Obama in the next film?

• 35:28Sean Fennessey?

  Seems like he wants to get kind of more in that world.

• 35:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, and he might have some time.

• 35:33Sean Fennessey?

  Lot of rumors about what's gonna happen.

• 35:35Amanda Dobbins?

  You didn't realize?

• 35:36Sean Fennessey?

  I didn't know that's who you were talking about.

• 35:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 35:38Sean Fennessey?

  Because of the potential drama going on there?

• 35:40Speaker 06

  Why are you not saying Michelle Obama?

• 35:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, it's like, you know, I don't know when we're allowed to, because I'm not reporting, you know?

• 35:49Sean Fennessey?

  No one thinks you're reporting on the marriage of the former president of the United States on the big picture.

• 35:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, at some point, there's just, there are legal issues, you know?

• 35:59Speaker 06

  You think that Michelle Obama, after everything that she's gone through over the last 12 years, would sue you?

• 36:05Sean Fennessey?

  275.

• 36:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, I hope not.

• 36:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, I hope not.

• 36:11Amanda Dobbins?

  And I'm also trying to respect their privacy. I'm just saying, if they-

• 36:14Sean Fennessey?

  You're trying to respect their privacy? Give me a fucking break.

• 36:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, all I would say, and again, this is like we're podcasting in the future, 280 by the way. If I had an announcement of that caliber to make, I counterintuitively might make it right before the inauguration in order to divert attention from someone.

• 36:41Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 36:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Just personally.

• 36:42Sean Fennessey?

  Little do you know, it will appear as a stinger at the end of the final reckoning is the announcement of the dissolution of their marriage after many years and two beautiful children.

• 36:54Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, we're in a great place right now. So we're at 2-

• 36:57Amanda Dobbins?

  80?

• 36:58Sean Fennessey?

  80? Where are you at?

• 37:00Speaker 06

  I'll go 3, just to see where you guys are at with this.

• 37:03Sean Fennessey?

  This is an interesting one, right? This one's gonna cross 100 million almost certainly.

• 37:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 37:07Sean Fennessey?

  It could get a couple below the line nominations. You could see like visual effects, sound, stuff like that for Mission Impossible movies. It has happened before. So it's got some value in a couple of different categories. Plus, we love these movies. This is one of the big events of the movie year for the three of us, so I'll say 315.

• 37:25Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 37:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Say 330.

• 37:28Speaker 06

  I would not describe this as a sequel-rich landscape this year.

• 37:37Speaker 06

  So that's worth keeping in mind.

• 37:38Sean Fennessey?

  You don't need a sequel.

• 37:40Speaker 06

  I know. I'm just saying, if you were gonna get one.

• 37:42Sean Fennessey?

  There's a ceiling on the number.

• 37:43Speaker 06

  There's a cap on it.

• 37:45Sean Fennessey?

  What are we at, 3:30?

• 37:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:47Sean Fennessey?

  Did you say that?

• 37:47Amanda Dobbins?

  I did.

• 37:48Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 3:40.

• 37:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 37:50Sean Fennessey?

  I'm interested in this film. I'd like to see it.

• 37:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, me too.

• 37:53Speaker 06

  Has the, has the box office been lightly declining on these films?

• 37:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 37:58Sean Fennessey?

  Fallout? Bit of a parabola.

• 38:03Speaker 06

  Charts.

• 38:04Sean Fennessey?

  Because the last one was down relative to the previous film, which was, which was, I think, a bit up.

• 38:11Amanda Dobbins?

  And but it was also the last one was like a week or two before Barbenheimer.

• 38:18Speaker 06

  Oh, that's right.

• 38:18Amanda Dobbins?

  And so...

• 38:19Speaker 06

  Got kicked off IMAX, right?

• 38:20Amanda Dobbins?

  It got kicked off IMAX, and also I think the promo tour really got subsumed by the Barbenheimer marketing, which was just going full all summer long.

• 38:29Sean Fennessey?

  Mission Impossible Fallout in America was, was the highest grossing Mission Impossible film.

• 38:34Speaker 06

  Oh, okay.

• 38:35Amanda Dobbins?

  So good.

• 38:36Speaker 06

  The, uh...

• 38:37Sean Fennessey?

  Dead Reckoning was the sixth highest.

• 38:39Speaker 06

  So they initially presented this as, what, what, what number are we at?

• 38:42Amanda Dobbins?

  3:30?

• 38:43Speaker 06

  3:40.

• 38:44Amanda Dobbins?

  40?

• 38:45Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. I said 3:40.

• 38:47Speaker 06

  3:45.

• 38:47Amanda Dobbins?

  3:50.

• 38:49Sean Fennessey?

  3:55.

• 38:50Speaker 06

  I just want to say that they presented this as Dead Reckoning Part One, and now it's just the final reckoning, right?

• 38:55Sean Fennessey?

  Correct.

• 38:55Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 38:56Sean Fennessey?

  But that's because, the same reason that one of the other signature sequels of 2025 will be Wicked: Colon for Good, not Wicked Part Two. This is something in the culture that we no longer want.

• 39:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Wait, didn't we watch Dead Reckoning?

• 39:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 39:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Already?

• 39:08Speaker 06

  Part One.

• 39:08Sean Fennessey?

  Part One, yes.

• 39:08Amanda Dobbins?

  And so what's...

• 39:09Speaker 06

  It was called Part One, then they just called it Dead Reckoning, and now it's the final reckoning.

• 39:13Sean Fennessey?

  Correct.

• 39:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 39:14Sean Fennessey?

  They took the Part One off the title retroactively.

• 39:17Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm out. Right, right, right.

• 39:18Sean Fennessey?

  You're out.

• 39:18Amanda Dobbins?

  What is it? What did you do?

• 39:19Sean Fennessey?

  I say 3:50? 3:55, you have. 3:55.

• 39:22Amanda Dobbins?

  3:60.

• 39:23Sean Fennessey?

  3:65.

• 39:24Amanda Dobbins?

  3:70.

• 39:27Sean Fennessey?

  This is not a parlor game. I, I want this movie.

• 39:31Sean Fennessey?

  I'm just saying, sometimes we play a game, you know, and we're like, oh, you did this, you did this, you know? 3, 3:75?

• 39:36Amanda Dobbins?

  3:80.

• 39:38Sean Fennessey?

  3:90.

• 39:38Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, we just, should we just like...

• 39:39Sean Fennessey?

  Settle on a number?

• 39:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Um...

• 39:43Amanda Dobbins?

  You can have it.

• 39:44Sean Fennessey?

  Really?

• 39:45Speaker 06

  At $3.90.

• 39:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, because you know what?

• 39:47Sean Fennessey?

  That's really nice.

• 39:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, you believe in the whole weird AI plotline more than I do, and you believe in underwater stunts more than I do. And you believe in, what's it called?

• 40:00Speaker 06

  The cruciform key.

• 40:02Amanda Dobbins?

  There we go. Yeah, there you go.

• 40:04Sean Fennessey?

  Two keys interlock to create one key.

• 40:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 40:08Speaker 06

  Are they adding anyone to the mix?

• 40:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Which is definitely how all submarines are run. And also all AI.

• 40:13Speaker 06

  You know cruciform keys?

• 40:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Gemini is run by two keys, and I have one of them.

• 40:19Sean Fennessey?

  I don't really know if there's any, someone named Mariela Garriga?

• 40:24Speaker 06

  Uh huh.

• 40:24Sean Fennessey?

  Has been added to the cast. She plays Marie. Oh, Hannah Waddingham from Ted Lasso. She's kind of a fit.

• 40:31Speaker 06

  That's cool.

• 40:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 40:32Sean Fennessey?

  She's kind of a fit for this.

• 40:34Speaker 06

  Is it my turn to nominate?

• 40:35Sean Fennessey?

  Um.

• 40:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, you go second.

• 40:37Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, you're up, Chris.

• 40:37Speaker 06

  Sinners.

• 40:38Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, interesting.

• 40:39Speaker 06

  Michael B. Jordan playing twin vampires.

• 40:42Sean Fennessey?

  Are they vampires or vampire hunters?

• 40:44Speaker 06

  I don't know. I don't care. It's gonna be incredible. Uh, Ryan Coogler is back with an original film about vamps in the South.

• 40:53Sean Fennessey?

  Yep.

• 40:54Speaker 06

  And I'm gonna s-

• 40:55Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I have a question for you. Are you sure that this is not a Dracula story? Because you famously said on our Nosferatu episode, in on vampires, out on Dracula.

• 41:06Speaker 06

  That you're gonna see my passion for this project, and that's because I stand by what I said on the Nosferatu podcast.

• 41:11Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, but what if the, what if at the end of the movie, they're like, the reason we got vampires in this town is because of Vlad the Impaler?

• 41:19Speaker 06

  If it's at the end of the movie, that's great. If the movie is about a Dracula looking for real estate in Europe, then I'm gonna be fucking pissed. He has twin real estate agents.

• 41:30Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 41:31Speaker 06

  Now, I am breaking a rule. I don't like it when an actor plays twins. I don't like it.

• 41:37Sean Fennessey?

  Why is that?

• 41:38Speaker 06

  I just think it's stupid. I think there's plenty, like, have brothers, have non-identical twins. The idea of an actor, and it's always like over the shoulder body double, and then it's like, oh, hey, and then there will be like one cool, like, we're hugging, but it's like, how much CGI did you have to do just make it a different guy?

• 41:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Have you seen, uh, Nancy Meyers' The Parent Trap yet?

• 41:59Speaker 06

  No.

• 42:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Starring Lindsay Lohan.

• 42:01Speaker 06

  I know who's in it.

• 42:02Amanda Dobbins?

  As both.

• 42:02Speaker 06

  Yeah. And aren't they making it again now?

• 42:04Amanda Dobbins?

  I just, I thought that Kaia-

• 42:06Sean Fennessey?

  It's a sequel.

• 42:06Speaker 06

  Freaky Friday they're making again. What are they making again?

• 42:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 42:09Sean Fennessey?

  Freakier Friday?

• 42:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Freakier Friday.

• 42:10Sean Fennessey?

  That is a 2025 release.

• 42:12Speaker 06

  Will Jamie Lee Curtis win her third consecutive Oscar for that film?

• 42:15Sean Fennessey?

  Yup.

• 42:16Speaker 06

  A run unlike we've ever seen.

• 42:19Sean Fennessey?

  Shades of Katharine Hepburn.

• 42:20Speaker 06

  If JLC wins three straight Oscars, will you stop doing, uh, awards watch on the big picture?

• 42:25Sean Fennessey?

  I will cancel the show.

• 42:26Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, you got three straight, right? Who won?

• 42:29Speaker 06

  It would be everything, ev-

• 42:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Everywhere. And then last year, somebody else won.

• 42:33Sean Fennessey?

  It was Emily Blunt for her performance in Oppenheimer.

• 42:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 42:40Sean Fennessey?

  I forget who won supporting actress last year.

• 42:42Amanda Dobbins?

  But The Brutalist, that's not the same character at all, right? Cause it complicates it. Right?

• 42:46Sean Fennessey?

  You haven't seen the movie.

• 42:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I know.

• 42:48Sean Fennessey?

  You'll have to see it.

• 42:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Not my fault.

• 42:49Speaker 06

  Uh, so for Sinners, I'm gonna open the bidding at $180.

• 42:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow. Okay.

• 42:54Sean Fennessey?

  $190. I'm very interested in this movie.

• 42:57Speaker 06

  I'm very interested in it, too.

• 42:58Amanda Dobbins?

  That's cool.

• 42:58Sean Fennessey?

  I think it's gonna be like a real program.

• 43:00Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm interested, but I'm not gonna get in the mix with you guys.

• 43:02Sean Fennessey?

  Like, one thing I like about what I've seen so far is it's, it's, it's just a genre movie.

• 43:07Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:07Sean Fennessey?

  It's not like this is a movie about America and the tale we tell each other. No. This is a movie about stabbing vampires in the eye.

• 43:13Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:13Sean Fennessey?

  Like, that's what I want this movie to be. I want it to be Michael G-, Michael B. Jordan wrecking shop-

• 43:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 43:18Sean Fennessey?

  -on some motherfucking vampires.

• 43:20Speaker 06

  And that's why I'm bidding $210.

• 43:22Sean Fennessey?

  $220. You're out on this?

• 43:24Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm not out on it, but I don't know if I'm gonna like get in the mix with you guys. I'm excited. I mean, one thing I'll say, just, just to, for the, in the interest of discussion, while you guys are bidding-

• 43:33Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:33Amanda Dobbins?

  So, Michael B. Jordan, playing two different characters.

• 43:38Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:39Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, I, some performances are incredible and, and some performances sometimes feel a little miscast. So, if there are two, is he gonna be cast correctly for both of them? I'm just putting it out there.

• 43:50Speaker 06

  But where Michael B. Jordan falls-

• 43:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 43:53Speaker 06

  Hailee Steinfeld will carry him.

• 43:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, there we go.

• 43:56Speaker 06

  What a run for her, you know?

• 43:58Sean Fennessey?

  I, uh, I think this, the press tour for this, rolling right after her

• 44:04Speaker 06

  Marriage to Josh Allen.

• 44:06Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, will be very, very interesting to me. I think I'm picking the Bills to win the Super Bowl, by the way.

• 44:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 44:10Speaker 06

  This is being recorded before Bills Ravens.

• 44:12Sean Fennessey?

  Before Bills Ravens.

• 44:13Speaker 06

  All of Bills Nation thanks you for you jinxing them, uh.

• 44:17Sean Fennessey?

  Something going on with Josh.

• 44:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Are they getting married?

• 44:19Sean Fennessey?

  They're engaged, yeah.

• 44:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, congratulations.

• 44:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, 220, is that where?

• 44:23Sean Fennessey?

  220, yeah.

• 44:23Speaker 06

  I'll do 235.

• 44:26Sean Fennessey?

  240.

• 44:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Hailee Steinfeld, Josh Allen, engaged.

• 44:30Speaker 06

  Now, interesting conversation is, do we think this is gonna make a hundred million dollars?

• 44:34Amanda Dobbins?

  They got engaged in November.

• 44:36Speaker 06

  A big genre movie like this, I can't imagine it crossing the Metacritic.

• 44:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, no, now I'm seeing the engagement photo. Um, no, so there's like a whole.

• 44:46Sean Fennessey?

  A room for oneself over here.

• 44:48Amanda Dobbins?

  What?

• 44:49Speaker 06

  He proposed to her and like they took pictures.

• 44:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, with like 4,000 candles, like a seaside vista and like a rose arch, um.

• 44:59Speaker 06

  Wish I did that.

• 45:00Sean Fennessey?

  Me too, it looks nice.

• 45:01Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 45:02Speaker 06

  Wish someone loved me like that.

• 45:03Sean Fennessey?

  Seriously.

• 45:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Do you?

• 45:06Speaker 06

  It's more to be swept off my feet.

• 45:07Sean Fennessey?

  They seem like nice people. I don't really have any notes on that.

• 45:10Amanda Dobbins?

  This is like, it's just like a little, I don't know, like photo, you know, professional photos, like I get nervous.

• 45:16Sean Fennessey?

  I know, no one's ever done a professional photo op for their engagement. This is incredible.

• 45:19Amanda Dobbins?

  What?

• 45:20Sean Fennessey?

  This is so common now, this, everybody does this now.

• 45:23Amanda Dobbins?

  But I'm like, this is just very, um, I, this would make me.

• 45:26Speaker 06

  I said 250?

• 45:27Sean Fennessey?

  Yep.

• 45:28Amanda Dobbins?

  This would make me anxious, that's all.

• 45:29Speaker 06

  270.

• 45:30Sean Fennessey?

  I don't think it's gonna cross a hundred million. I think it's just gonna be a sick movie.

• 45:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:34Sean Fennessey?

  It's gonna do okay.

• 45:34Speaker 06

  But we don't, we, you know, for better or for worse, we are not high-fiving each other because it's a sick movie, right? You've kind of, maybe your triggers have kind of put us in a place.

• 45:45Sean Fennessey?

  For better or worse, I've destroyed my closest friendships by making everything a game.

• 45:49Speaker 06

  Be that as it may, it is what it is.

• 45:50Sean Fennessey?

  Should we share?

• 45:53Sean Fennessey?

  There are a series of linguistic phrases that men and only men use.

• 45:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh huh.

• 45:58Sean Fennessey?

  And these phrases indicate an insecure and weak soul. And if you hear me using them, or you hear Chris using them.

• 46:05Speaker 06

  Where slap us in the face.

• 46:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Coming from?

• 46:07Sean Fennessey?

  It's a, it's a theory I've been working on. One of those phrases.

• 46:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Like it, this isn't like the photo things with like the lines? Like this isn't an internet thing?

• 46:15Sean Fennessey?

  This is. No, it's something I came up with.

• 46:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 46:17Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I just was listening to someone talk on a podcast today. And this person kept, it was not you. This person kept leaning on these crutches. I have crutches too. We all have crutches.

• 46:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 46:25Sean Fennessey?

  One of the crutches is be that as it may. My take is no woman has ever said those words in that order before. That's something men say when they don't know what they want to say next.

• 46:34Amanda Dobbins?

  You do actually say it as a segue, usually when you're trying to not talk about what I'm talking about anymore.

• 46:41Sean Fennessey?

  Be that as it may, that's not really in my quiver. I don't think.

• 46:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 46:45Speaker 06

  Oh, so you're saying you looked into the abyss.

• 46:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Saying that in a hostile way.

• 46:49Speaker 06

  And you're stopping yourself.

• 46:50Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm learning about the theory.

• 46:51Sean Fennessey?

  It came up in part because Bob on a pre-recording, we were saying, I, I'm, Chris can have cinders, by the way, just so we can continue this conversation. Um. Be that as it may, I heard someone say earlier today. Bob said it is what it is.

• 47:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:03Sean Fennessey?

  On the call. Now, obviously that phrase lives on forever because of the Irishman. But that is a phrase that doesn't mean anything.

• 47:10Speaker 06

  At the end of the day.

• 47:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 47:12Sean Fennessey?

  Um. With that being said, is a phrase that is, is, is, if you say with that being said, comma, and then something? I don't trust you. You're not to be trusted.

• 47:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 47:23Sean Fennessey?

  Um.

• 47:23Amanda Dobbins?

  But so I, like, I just, you guys are, I, like, was this at a, the club meeting?

• 47:29Speaker 06

  No, it was literally five seconds.

• 47:30Sean Fennessey?

  You were getting tea. No, you were getting tea.

• 47:33Amanda Dobbins?

  So this is what happens when, like, I can't find the hot water in the building?

• 47:37Sean Fennessey?

  Exchange of ideas between two men who love language. That is what is happening.

• 47:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 47:43Sean Fennessey?

  That words are our currency. And that every day, we pay the piper by using words.

• 47:50Speaker 06

  The lion, the witch in the wardrobe to each other.

• 47:52Amanda Dobbins?

  You are really passionate about this?

• 47:55Sean Fennessey?

  Be that as it may, Amanda.

• 47:57Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:57Amanda Dobbins?

  And, um, I just, I didn't know when this happened, you know, like I, okay.

• 48:03Sean Fennessey?

  It's fresh in my mind. There's a series.

• 48:05Amanda Dobbins?

  I support you guys on all of these things.

• 48:07Sean Fennessey?

  There's a series of phrases that we can add to the list over time.

• 48:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 48:11Sean Fennessey?

  As they come across, I have a lot of crutches.

• 48:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 48:14Sean Fennessey?

  Well, here's a crutch of mine. Your mileage may vary. I say that all the time.

• 48:17Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:18Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, that one is helpful for me because it lets me say like, hey, I like this movie. You might not, you're a fucking idiot, but your mileage may vary. It allows me to kind of flow in the conversation. Be that as it may is nothing.

• 48:29Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 48:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 48:30Sean Fennessey?

  That doesn't mean anything.

• 48:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes.

• 48:32Sean Fennessey?

  You agree?

• 48:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Absolutely.

• 48:34Sean Fennessey?

  Thank you for coming on the journey with me.

• 48:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 48:35Sean Fennessey?

  I love words.

• 48:37Speaker 06

  It's your turn to nominate a film, I think. I got Sinners for...

• 48:41Amanda Dobbins?

  That was really, really intense. And I like, I don't know why.

• 48:44Sean Fennessey?

  I'm glad, I'm glad, I'm glad you felt...

• 48:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Just cause like, I was just focused on like the flower arch and you were just started yelling that language.

• 48:53Sean Fennessey?

  He used be that as it may to note my fire. I just want to say in my defense, it is what it is is different. That actually means something. Like, that actually means, you know, you have to accept the reality of your situation. Be that as it may. That's exactly what be that, be that, you know, that, all those phrases are, they're, they're, they're just, um, they're like cotton candy, like they don't have any depth. They don't mean anything. They just are like, you could just say, accept it. This is the way that it is. It is what it is, you know, these, I don't know, what are they, neologisms? Is that what they're called? Like they're, you know?

• 49:28Speaker 06

  I think also we watch too many, uh...

• 49:31Sean Fennessey?

  No, that, well, it is what it is, is a tautology.

• 49:33Speaker 06

  We watch too many sports press conferences.

• 49:35Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, good point.

• 49:36Speaker 06

  I feel like our exposure to sports press conferences has gone up about 250%.

• 49:40Amanda Dobbins?

  I think that you could just start with, stop with, we watch too many sports press conferences, which is...

• 49:45Speaker 06

  I just, I do.

• 49:46Amanda Dobbins?

  That's true.

• 49:47Speaker 06

  I watch Nick Sirianni talk. I need injury updates. Oh my god.

• 49:53Sean Fennessey?

  Be that as it may, you gotta know who's playing for the Eagles, right?

• 49:55Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 49:56Sean Fennessey?

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• 51:24Sean Fennessey?

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• 51:55Speaker 06

  Is this a sequel?

• 51:56Sean Fennessey?

  It's not a sequel.

• 51:57Speaker 06

  Even though it's got highest to lowest?

• 51:59Sean Fennessey?

  Nope. It's the numeral two in the Spike Lee sense of naming films. This is Spike's new movie, a remake reportedly of the Kurosawa movie.

• 52:11Speaker 06

  High and low?

• 52:12Sean Fennessey?

  High and low. Stars Denzel Washington.

• 52:15Speaker 06

  And Ice Spice.

• 52:16Sean Fennessey?

  And Ice Spice. That's correct.

• 52:17Speaker 06

  And Jeffrey Wright.

• 52:19Sean Fennessey?

  And Jeffrey Wright.

• 52:20Speaker 06

  And ASAP Rocky.

• 52:21Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, and ASAP Rocky. I'm wondering, is ASAP Rocky the kidnapper?

• 52:24Speaker 06

  I don't know. Ice Spice could be a kidnapper.

• 52:27Sean Fennessey?

  Maybe together. Or is Ice Spice the kidnapper? You know, in the story.

• 52:33Speaker 06

  An industrialist.

• 52:35Sean Fennessey?

  His child is kidnapped accidentally. His chauffeur's child is kidnapped.

• 52:38Speaker 06

  And then it's like, I have to decide whether or not my chauffeur's child's life is worth what they want.

• 52:42Sean Fennessey?

  Right.

• 52:43Speaker 06

  It's a great movie. It's one of the best movies ever made.

• 52:46Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 52:46Speaker 06

  I'm very excited for Spike Lee to be back in the director's chair, working with Denzel Washington.

• 52:52Sean Fennessey?

  So here's the thing about this movie. An Apple and A24 co-production.

• 52:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 52:57Speaker 06

  What does that mean?

• 52:58Sean Fennessey?

  Will this movie come out in movie theaters? I'm just, I'll put it on the table for 75 bucks.

• 53:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 53:03Sean Fennessey?

  Denzel and a Spike movie is an event. It's only happened a few times.

• 53:06Speaker 06

  Inside Man.

• 53:07Sean Fennessey?

  Inside Man, He Got Game.

• 53:09Speaker 06

  Mo Better.

• 53:09Sean Fennessey?

  Mo Better Blues.

• 53:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Malcolm X.

• 53:13Sean Fennessey?

  So this is a big deal.

• 53:15Speaker 06

  Any word on this one? Any vibes?

• 53:18Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, none that I can report.

• 53:21Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 53:21Sean Fennessey?

  Um, I would love to love it, and I would love for there to be a year of Spike. I think that would be overdue. Never won best director. I don't, this is a thriller, so you, you know, it's not likely necessarily, but it's a, the original film has big themes.

• 53:34Speaker 06

  So you're doing 75?

• 53:35Sean Fennessey?

  So I'll do 75 dollars.

• 53:36Speaker 06

  I'm gonna do 90.

• 53:37Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll do 100.

• 53:38Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, I'll do 115. Now, could it be an Oscar movie? Could it be, probably not a Metacritic movie. Spike pretty divisive historically, especially in the last 15 years. Hasn't had a ton of movies that probably crossed that threshold. Hasn't made a movie since the Vietnam Netflix film, right?

• 53:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 53:57Sean Fennessey?

  The Five Bloods.

• 53:58Speaker 06

  Any docs, docs since then?

• 54:00Sean Fennessey?

  Don't think so.

• 54:01Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 54:02Sean Fennessey?

  I don't think he's made a, he.

• 54:03Speaker 06

  Klansman's after The Five Bloods?

• 54:05Sean Fennessey?

  It is. Uh, be- before.

• 54:06Speaker 06

  Before.

• 54:07Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah. Black Klansman's 2018. I think The Five Bloods was 2020.

• 54:10Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 54:11Sean Fennessey?

  And I don't think he's made a film since then. So, am I forgetting something? I'm not, right?

• 54:15Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I just, I'm, I'm looking it up.

• 54:18Sean Fennessey?

  So, I have it at 115. I don't know if it's gonna be, hit any triggers.

• 54:22Speaker 06

  125.

• 54:25Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. I'll go 130.

• 54:28Amanda Dobbins?

  I'll go 140.

• 54:30Sean Fennessey?

  150.

• 54:32Speaker 06

  165.

• 54:34Sean Fennessey?

  I think it's nice on the first movie for each person to throw out something that we all wanna see.

• 54:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, I agree with you.

• 54:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 54:40Sean Fennessey?

  You know, and then we can get a little more arcane with our choices after that.

• 54:45Sean Fennessey?

  I'll go 175. I hope this is good.

• 54:49Speaker 06

  One ninety.

• 54:51Sean Fennessey?

  Do you have a like a like a lesser loved Spike Lee movie that is of interest to you?

• 54:57Speaker 06

  Um, I mean, I I weirdly kinda liked Girl Six.

• 55:05Sean Fennessey?

  Well, that's the one that is the most lost.

• 55:08Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 55:08Sean Fennessey?

  Not on Blu-ray, I don't think, doesn't stream anywhere. No one's, he never talks about it. I haven't seen it in forever. That's an interesting one, though. I still watched Get on the Bus recently. Great movie, really interesting. Movie that feels very felt very urgent politically. The way that we don't really.

• 55:25Speaker 06

  What's the World War Two one called? Battle of?

• 55:27Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, San Ana. Yeah, yeah.

• 55:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Miracle.

• 55:32Speaker 06

  Miracle.

• 55:32Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 55:34Speaker 06

  It's been a while. I think I only saw that when it first came out.

• 55:36Sean Fennessey?

  Didn't want that one. One seventy-five?

• 55:39Speaker 06

  Chris has one ninety. I have one ninety.

• 55:41Sean Fennessey?

  I'll go two hundred. That's my cap. If you want to go past it, it's yours.

• 55:45Speaker 06

  I'll go two oh five.

• 55:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Great.

• 55:48Speaker 06

  I could have had two hundred and one, I guess, but I don't need the four bucks. We all know how I do.

• 55:53Sean Fennessey?

  You pink tipper.

• 55:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, my gosh.

• 55:56Speaker 06

  Uh, I don't want to talk about that.

• 55:59Sean Fennessey?

  Because you don't believe in it like Mr. Pink?

• 56:00Speaker 06

  Well, no, but I would, I just, yeah, I believe in tipping significantly.

• 56:04Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 56:04Speaker 06

  Uh, I think that there are some places where we've instituted iPad tipping that aren't necessary.

• 56:10Sean Fennessey?

  Aha.

• 56:11Speaker 06

  But I still tip.

• 56:13Sean Fennessey?

  I always, I do, I try to do the same.

• 56:15Amanda Dobbins?

  I try to do as well, yeah.

• 56:16Sean Fennessey?

  But I do agree.

• 56:17Speaker 06

  And I also never really carry cash, so I understand the necessity of the the added thing.

• 56:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, yeah.

• 56:23Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting. You want to speak on tipping?

• 56:27Amanda Dobbins?

  I try to tip well, whenever possible.

• 56:29Speaker 06

  Yeah, I try to tip well whenever possible.

• 56:31Sean Fennessey?

  When would it be not possible?

• 56:32Amanda Dobbins?

  People should be paid more. That's just.

• 56:35Sean Fennessey?

  Well, that's a fact.

• 56:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 56:36Speaker 06

  When I'm at Cheetahs.

• 56:41Sean Fennessey?

  Do I, do I, do I recommend, suggest another movie? We doing Snake, right?

• 56:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, we could, I mean, we don't have to. You could just go back and.

• 56:48Sean Fennessey?

  Order it because it doesn't really matter as much in terms of power play, but. Okay, I'm putting 28 years later on the board. Hundred bucks.

• 56:56Speaker 06

  Two hundred bucks.

• 56:57Sean Fennessey?

  Man, it doesn't care.

• 56:57Speaker 06

  Two hundred bucks.

• 56:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I it's not that I don't care. It's just he's suddenly you guys are just, you know.

• 57:03Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 57:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Going for it.

• 57:04Sean Fennessey?

  Boys Night Out.

• 57:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Beautiful.

• 57:05Sean Fennessey?

  Boys Night Out.

• 57:05Speaker 06

  Do you think you'll see this film in the theater?

• 57:07Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 57:08Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 57:09Sean Fennessey?

  She pledged that she would watch the first two.

• 57:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm a working woman, you know, I do my job.

• 57:11Speaker 06

  Oh, you haven't seen 28 Days Later? I'm a working woman? Is that what you said?

• 57:15Sean Fennessey?

  It's a good bit. It's a good tagline.

• 57:16Amanda Dobbins?

  I do my job, you know?

• 57:18Sean Fennessey?

  It's a good tagline. I'll go from 200.

• 57:20Speaker 06

  Does that happen during the NFL Draft? I'll try. I'll try.

• 57:26Sean Fennessey?

  I'll go from 200 to 300.

• 57:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow, okay.

• 57:30Sean Fennessey?

  Because I liked how you went up 100, so I'm going up 100. This is the third film in the 28 series.

• 57:35Speaker 06

  Do you think it's gonna make 100 million bucks?

• 57:37Sean Fennessey?

  Boy, I think that they did a hell of a job with that trailer and got people really interested in it. I think they said it's the highest viewed trailer in Sony history or something? Or the highest viewed trailer of a horror movie? Some some weird set. Whoa.

• 57:49Amanda Dobbins?

  No.

• 57:49Speaker 06

  I'm I'm looking 19 million views in a month.

• 57:52Sean Fennessey?

  On just on one hosting platform.

• 57:54Speaker 06

  Yeah, on the Sony Pictures Entertainment.

• 57:56Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 57:57Speaker 06

  Channel.

• 57:58Amanda Dobbins?

  This is this is how I want to spend my time. When I woke up this morning, I was like, let's talk about trailer stream numbers on different platforms.

• 58:06Sean Fennessey?

  What was the alternative? Watching the inauguration? Come on. Pep up.

• 58:14Sean Fennessey?

  You got it, babe.

• 58:14Speaker 06

  It's your ear. Let's go. Turn that frown upside down.

• 58:20Sean Fennessey?

  Be that ass in May, Amanda.

• 58:20Speaker 06

  Eric Taylor-Johnson is fighting for civilization. What are you doing?

• 58:25Sean Fennessey?

  Ralph Fiennes is in this film.

• 58:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Listen, I said that I would see it in theaters.

• 58:29Speaker 06

  200 bucks?

• 58:30Sean Fennessey?

  No, I said $300.

• 58:31Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 58:32Sean Fennessey?

  You said 200 dollars.

• 58:33Speaker 06

  Well, you know, I mean, uh.

• 58:36Sean Fennessey?

  Wow, you went into penny pinching mode there.

• 58:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Your voice changed a lot.

• 58:40Speaker 06

  I'll do 310. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see what's going on. 330.

• 58:44Sean Fennessey?

  340.

• 58:45Speaker 06

  So this is you, huh? This is what you're all about.

• 58:47Sean Fennessey?

  I gave you two in a row.

• 58:48Speaker 06

  Well, I'm not mad at him. I'm not mad at what I got. I'm trying. I got I gotta start.

• 58:53Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm hydrating.

• 58:54Speaker 06

  I gotta start putting up some Metacritic numbers and I gotta start putting up some box office numbers. We're not sure about Sinners. Like, I want to believe in a world where Sinners gets to 100.

• 59:01Sean Fennessey?

  Yep.

• 59:02Speaker 06

  I want to believe in a world where Denzel gets Best Actor for Highest to Lowest.

• 59:06Sean Fennessey?

  Mm hmm.

• 59:06Speaker 06

  Um, it's gonna be really funny watching, like, uh, Demi Moore being like, and the winner for Best Actor is Denzel Washington in Highest to Lowest.

• 59:18Sean Fennessey?

  It's in play.

• 59:18Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 59:19Sean Fennessey?

  That exact future is in play. I'll say 225.

• 59:22Speaker 06

  Forty, four.

• 59:24Sean Fennessey?

  You already have it. You already have 340.

• 59:26Speaker 06

  Yeah. Don't give yourself a $120 discount.

• 59:29Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say, I'll take it for 20 bucks.

• 59:32Speaker 06

  So you're at 340?

• 59:33Sean Fennessey?

  340.

• 59:35Speaker 06

  I'll do 350.

• 59:37Sean Fennessey?

  So I've got the final reckoning at 390. This puts me in an interesting position. I'll say 355.

• 59:44Speaker 06

  You can have it and those are your two sequels, huh?

• 59:47Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 59:49Speaker 06

  Original content, Sean. I'll let you have it.

• 59:52Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. So those are your two sequels for the whole year then?

• 59:55Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 59:55Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, but they're probably my 200 million dollar grocers. True. So a tactical effort here.

• 1:00:05Sean Fennessey?

  You can wait on the 85 and the Oscar stuff until after the first festival season.

• 1:00:09Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:00:09Sean Fennessey?

  In theory, if we're gaming it out.

• 1:00:12Amanda Dobbins?

  I just Googled movies 2025, so that's where I'm going.

• 1:00:17Speaker 06

  That's, you, you.

• 1:00:19Sean Fennessey?

  You're just looking at movies?

• 1:00:20Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm just looking at movies.

• 1:00:21Sean Fennessey?

  We did an episode about this about a week ago.

• 1:00:23Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I know, but I don't, uh, you know, I'm trying to think about box office and stuff.

• 1:00:27Sean Fennessey?

  I see.

• 1:00:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Which I only slightly thought about.

• 1:00:31Sean Fennessey?

  My, my budget is now down pretty significantly.

• 1:00:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:00:35Speaker 06

  You're down to?

• 1:00:36Sean Fennessey?

  In the 250 range, right?

• 1:00:38Speaker 06

  No, you have 255 left.

• 1:00:40Sean Fennessey?

  So... Okay, Chris, you gotta put one on the board now.

• 1:00:46Speaker 06

  Oh, is that my turn?

• 1:00:47Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:00:47Speaker 06

  Okay, I will take, um... I will take Jurassic World Rebirth.

• 1:00:54Sean Fennessey?

  Wow.

• 1:00:56Speaker 06

  Which I actually think is gonna rock.

• 1:00:58Sean Fennessey?

  Good strat.

• 1:00:59Speaker 06

  Gareth Evans, director of Rogue One and the creator, starring Scarlett Johansson and Mahershala Ali. Why would they make a bad movie?

• 1:01:05Sean Fennessey?

  Is it a sequel or is it a reboot? This is something we don't know.

• 1:01:09Speaker 06

  Well, should we just recap for everybody what happens in the second three Jurassic World movies? In the, in the Pratt first?

• 1:01:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, why don't you start and I'll follow your lead?

• 1:01:19Speaker 06

  So there's a velociraptor named Blue. He's been trained by Chris Pratt's, what's his character's name?

• 1:01:26Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, Jim Pratt.

• 1:01:28Speaker 06

  Jim Pratt. He's in love with Bryce Dallas Howard. She, she's a really driven woman, though. Uh, at one point he builds himself a house, but she needs him to come back. Blue.

• 1:01:38Sean Fennessey?

  Second one.

• 1:01:40Speaker 06

  Then there's like a thing where they get in these globes and they roll down the volcano while it's exploding. Um, and at the end, I think the dinosaurs are like free to like just keep Costa Rica. And they're like, we're, we're like, you guys got this. So what happens in Jurassic World Rebirth?

• 1:02:02Sean Fennessey?

  I just want to say real quick, it's Gareth Edwards, not Gareth Evans. This is a point of contention.

• 1:02:07Speaker 06

  My bad, Gareth Edwards made the raid, my bad. I always get those guys confused. My, my fault.

• 1:02:10Sean Fennessey?

  Gareth Edwards who made the creator.

• 1:02:12Speaker 06

  Yes, and Rogue One.

• 1:02:14Sean Fennessey?

  And Rogue One.

• 1:02:17Speaker 06

  I'm gonna bid a hundred dollars for this.

• 1:02:20Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, I already have two sequels, so if this is a sequel, I can't bid on it.

• 1:02:23Speaker 06

  It's definitely a sequel, Sean. It's called Jurassic World: Rebirth.

• 1:02:26Sean Fennessey?

  But is it a reboot? Like, are any of the characters returning? Is this the same island?

• 1:02:31Speaker 06

  Yeah, the dinosaurs. What are you fucking talking about? Yeah, but is it like, is it Blue?

• 1:02:37Sean Fennessey?

  Will Blue be back?

• 1:02:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. I don't know, man. I don't know.

• 1:02:41Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think there'll be a title card at the beginning that says somehow Blue returned?

• 1:02:44Speaker 06

  So is that what we're calling a sequel now? Is like only if like one raptor makes it through all of the films?

• 1:02:50Sean Fennessey?

  There has to be some narrative connectivity.

• 1:02:52Speaker 06

  Are definitely sequels to the original trilogy.

• 1:02:55Sean Fennessey?

  Well, is it all originated around the island that the industrialists built in the original film? Cause the Jurassic World trilogy is connected to the original trilogy.

• 1:03:05Speaker 06

  Let me see if I can find it.

• 1:03:06Sean Fennessey?

  That, they're all canon together. But now are we saying there's a whole other universe where there's dinosaurs on this planet?

• 1:03:14Speaker 06

  A standalone sequel to Jurassic World Dominion, according to Wikipedia.

• 1:03:17Sean Fennessey?

  There you go.

• 1:03:18Speaker 06

  Okay, well, but what happens in it?

• 1:03:21Speaker 06

  Five years after the events of Jurassic World Dominion, the planet's environment has shown itself to be mainly inhospitable to dinosaurs. The ones that are left live in remote equatorial regions with conditions similar to those in which they were formerly abundant. Zora Bennett, a covert operative, is hired to work with a paleontologist named Dr. Henry Loomis and team leader Duncan Kincaid on a top secret mission to exchange genetic material from the three largest creatures in the world's tropical biosphere.

• 1:03:51Sean Fennessey?

  There's a character named Dr. Loomis?

• 1:03:53Speaker 06

  Yeah, Dr. Henry Lewis. I think that's a marshallist.

• 1:03:55Sean Fennessey?

  From Friday the, I mean, from Halloween?

• 1:03:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow.

• 1:03:59Speaker 06

  Yeah, Jonathan Bailey. Rupert Friend is in this.

• 1:04:01Sean Fennessey?

  I don't understand. Dr. Loomis is a character in Halloween. Is it spelled the same way?

• 1:04:05Speaker 06

  It's just like those guys having a lot of fun. L O O M I S.

• 1:04:08Sean Fennessey?

  That's Dr. Loo.

• 1:04:08Speaker 06

  I know, man!

• 1:04:09Sean Fennessey?

  You can't do that!

• 1:04:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know what to tell you.

• 1:04:11Sean Fennessey?

  That would be like, this character's name is, is Charles Foster Kane. Like, that's not...

• 1:04:18Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, alright.

• 1:04:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, are they living on islands? Equatorial islands? Or how are the...

• 1:04:25Speaker 06

  Yeah, I don't think they're like, outside of...

• 1:04:27Amanda Dobbins?

  Or is this like a Godzilla versus Kong thing where they've like...

• 1:04:30Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, the inner earth.

• 1:04:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, the inner earth.

• 1:04:31Speaker 06

  No, I don't think there's an inner earth. I, I don't know.

• 1:04:33Sean Fennessey?

  Have you even been anything? Like, did Chris get this seven minutes ago and he was still recapping the film?

• 1:04:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:04:38Speaker 06

  So I got it for a hundred bucks?

• 1:04:39Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:04:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Good job.

• 1:04:40Sean Fennessey?

  It's a good get. It's a good get. Do you think it's gonna be good?

• 1:04:43Speaker 06

  I do.

• 1:04:43Sean Fennessey?

  I do too.

• 1:04:44Speaker 06

  I do.

• 1:04:45Sean Fennessey?

  I do too. I definitely want to remember all the plot details too, after we see it. Okay. Uh, Amanda, you can recommend a movie.

• 1:04:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Um... I guess I'll... Well, I don't know. Should I just like, try to outspend you? You know, wait until you don't have any money left? I don't have any movies.

• 1:05:04Speaker 06

  Are you gonna...

• 1:05:05Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know. I mean, you very graciously let me have the first film, and now you're talking about kneecapping me. Why don't you worry about, you know, follow your heart? Do something you want to do. It's your year.

• 1:05:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, but all the things that I want to do aren't blockbusters, or, uh, were sequels.

• 1:05:21Sean Fennessey?

  You can worry about...

• 1:05:22Amanda Dobbins?

  With the exception of one sequel, which I'm, I just did some Wikipedia-ing while you guys were having dinosaur time.

• 1:05:28Speaker 06

  Avatar Fire and Ash?

• 1:05:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, no. And I'm just really upset to learn that Megan only made 95 domestic.

• 1:05:38Speaker 06

  I bet it will make a hundred this time around.

• 1:05:40Sean Fennessey?

  Seeing a lot of notes from the fine people who work at the studios that are producing Megan 2.0, not a prequel.

• 1:05:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:05:46Sean Fennessey?

  There's also a reason why there's a three in the Megan, because she's sort of the three series.

• 1:05:51Speaker 06

  Oh, they've upgraded her.

• 1:05:52Sean Fennessey?

  Y- yeah.

• 1:05:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I, yeah, that's what I said about the...

• 1:05:55Sean Fennessey?

  But it is a direct sequel.

• 1:05:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Methrigan, you know?

• 1:05:58Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:05:58Amanda Dobbins?

  2.0.

• 1:05:59Speaker 06

  Methrigan?

• 1:06:00Sean Fennessey?

  Um...

• 1:06:04Amanda Dobbins?

  I think 2.0 will probably make $100 million, but like, I'm not, you know.

• 1:06:09Sean Fennessey?

  Not a guarantee. Also, not in now and not a winter movie, a summer movie.

• 1:06:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:06:14Sean Fennessey?

  That was a January film.

• 1:06:15Speaker 06

  What kind of assurances would you guys need to not let Meghan do any childcare? Like, would, what kind of like percentage of, of like, this thing won't turn into a homicidal maniac?

• 1:06:27Sean Fennessey?

  I let my daughter hang around you, so, yeah.

• 1:06:30Speaker 06

  I've got Meghan safer than I am, yeah.

• 1:06:34Sean Fennessey?

  I would, I simply would not go for that.

• 1:06:36Speaker 06

  Let a robot raise your child?

• 1:06:37Sean Fennessey?

  Wouldn't go for that, yeah. It would be helpful, until it was harmful, but, um...

• 1:06:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I'm sort of like, I think that my child at this point, my older child anyway, would listen to Meghan more than he would listen to me, you know? It's like the...

• 1:06:51Sean Fennessey?

  Well, he would have to, otherwise he would be vanquished from this earth.

• 1:06:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, that's true. But, you know, even before, there's just something about the third party, like he's an absolute engine.

• 1:06:59Sean Fennessey?

  Very true. That's very, very true. Uh, Meghan 2.0, I mean, I think you should go for it. It's a fun movie. We liked the first one.

• 1:07:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. $30.

• 1:07:08Sean Fennessey?

  Great. I can't bet on this one either, it's a sequel, so...

• 1:07:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's right.

• 1:07:13Speaker 06

  I'm okay, I, there's other sequels.

• 1:07:14Sean Fennessey?

  $30, there you go. So you got a chance at a $100 million earner, but you've now knocked one sequel off your list. So you can only do one more over the next nine films that you acquire.

• 1:07:23Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Well...

• 1:07:24Sean Fennessey?

  Isn't this a great game? You can put another film on the board now, perhaps one of your highfalutin picks.

• 1:07:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Why don't you just let me do what I want?

• 1:07:32Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 1:07:33Speaker 06

  There's several Guy Ritchie films that are coming out.

• 1:07:36Amanda Dobbins?

  That's really exciting.

• 1:07:37Speaker 06

  Did you guys talk about that? I anticipated, I didn't catch that.

• 1:07:39Amanda Dobbins?

  You know, we didn't.

• 1:07:40Sean Fennessey?

  No.

• 1:07:40Speaker 06

  In the Grey?

• 1:07:44Sean Fennessey?

  There's a really, uh, there's an exciting performer in In the Grey, who is it?

• 1:07:48Speaker 06

  In the Grey is, uh...

• 1:07:50Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, it's Cavill.

• 1:07:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:07:51Sean Fennessey?

  Oh no, it's Gyllenhaal.

• 1:07:53Speaker 06

  Gyllenhaal's in the Grey, and then, um, John Krasinski and Natalie Portman play sibling treasure hunters in the other one that he's got.

• 1:08:03Sean Fennessey?

  John Krasinski and Natalie Portman?

• 1:08:05Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:08:05Sean Fennessey?

  Are siblings?

• 1:08:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, Fountain of Youth, it's called.

• 1:08:09Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting.

• 1:08:10Speaker 06

  And he also has two series coming.

• 1:08:12Sean Fennessey?

  In the Grey revolves around two extraction specialists who have to designate a route of escape for a senior female negotiator. I think that female negotiator is played by Ayesha Gonzalez.

• 1:08:24Sean Fennessey?

  A plus. What are you putting on the board?

• 1:08:26Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know. This is, this is so fun, not as fun now that you can't just do what you want. You know?

• 1:08:34Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, only child over here.

• 1:08:35Amanda Dobbins?

  I think that you've really, like, it's just, it's less fun.

• 1:08:39Speaker 06

  You can do what you want.

• 1:08:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but then he's just gonna be like, wow, the wild robot, you know, is not widely released and also.

• 1:08:47Sean Fennessey?

  We could have lashing out as the world slips through her fingers as she thinks of all of the mistakes she's made in this society. Can't help but lash out.

• 1:08:55Amanda Dobbins?

  I haven't made that many mistakes. I just don't really care about.

• 1:08:58Sean Fennessey?

  You stayed in this country.

• 1:08:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, that is true. Yeah.

• 1:09:01Speaker 06

  You could have been getting autries straight from the source.

• 1:09:05Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, you could have been in an equatorial island with the dinosaurs.

• 1:09:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes, but they are islands.

• 1:09:11Speaker 06

  Jurassic world you're talking about? Yeah, Isla Nubar and all those Islas are islands. I don't know where they've moved them though. I would imagine that the.

• 1:09:22Sean Fennessey?

  Your Spanish is.

• 1:09:23Speaker 06

  Number one, the number one condition of dinosaurs living on Earth would be there would be no land bridge. Can't let a dinosaur into like Austin.

• 1:09:37Sean Fennessey?

  That's, that literally happens in the, in the second.

• 1:09:39Speaker 06

  In the second one, right, but never again.

• 1:09:42Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, we're trying to avoid it for sure.

• 1:09:43Speaker 06

  We learned our lesson.

• 1:09:47Sean Fennessey?

  Then they made five more.

• 1:09:48Speaker 06

  Kima on the Islas, you know?

• 1:09:50Sean Fennessey?

  You know, on those Islas, absolutely.

• 1:09:52Amanda Dobbins?

  F1 a hundred bucks.

• 1:09:53Sean Fennessey?

  There you go. Good, good.

• 1:09:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Because also I. Because.

• 1:09:57Sean Fennessey?

  There you are. There you are. You're back. I was waiting for you to come back.

• 1:10:01Speaker 06

  That would pay for the, uh, like roasted nuts budget of one hour of this movie, a hundred dollars.

• 1:10:09Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say.

• 1:10:10Speaker 06

  One of the most expensive films ever made, right?

• 1:10:12Amanda Dobbins?

  But it's also, it's currently scheduled for June 27th and so it wouldn't be eligible for the next draft.

• 1:10:19Sean Fennessey?

  No, uh, oh, oh.

• 1:10:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, because anything that's released in the first six months of the year. Yeah, once it's released, it's not available.

• 1:10:27Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, very good. That's why one of your strokes of genius was getting Dune part two last year.

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  Because it was so close to being released, but not released.

• 1:10:34Sean Fennessey?

  Because it would have been not eligible. Obviously, that my thinking as well.

• 1:10:38Speaker 06

  So this is going into IMAX?

• 1:10:40Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, yes.

• 1:10:41Speaker 06

  Will it be wide released otherwise?

• 1:10:43Sean Fennessey?

  Yes.

• 1:10:44Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:10:44Sean Fennessey?

  Reportedly. I think that they need to make as much money as possible, given the size of the budget, this movie. So I think it's gonna get 4,000 screens, every IMAX screen for, what'll it be? What's the, what's the, I don't think there is a big July 4th movie this year, is there? A big IMAX July 4th movie?

• 1:10:58Speaker 06

  Is it Fantastic Four not?

• 1:11:00Sean Fennessey?

  I think the big July 4th movie is the Trey and Matt and Kendrick Lamar movie.

• 1:11:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, it's also Jurassic World rebirth, congratulations.

• 1:11:08Sean Fennessey?

  Well, maybe it only has a week.

• 1:11:10Sean Fennessey?

  If Jurassic World's getting those IMAX screens.

• 1:11:11Speaker 06

  We celebrate our independence from dinosaurs.

• 1:11:15Amanda Dobbins?

  And.

• 1:11:15Speaker 06

  Today.

• 1:11:17Sean Fennessey?

  Is Bill Pullman in it?

• 1:11:18Speaker 06

  Be that as it may! These dinosaurs shall not tread!

• 1:11:25Amanda Dobbins?

  I do wonder if it'll move, because right now, you've got 20 years later, on June 20th, F1 on 27th, along with Megan 2.0, by the way. And then Jurassic World Rebirth on July 2nd, and then Superman on July 11th. And I assume all of those people want as many big screens as possible, so.

• 1:11:46Sean Fennessey?

  I would guess Superman's gonna take over for the, until Fantastic Four comes along on July 25th.

• 1:11:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Cool.

• 1:11:54Sean Fennessey?

  Another film coming, but Superman and, and Fantastic Four, neither of which are sequels. We don't really have to bid on those right now if we don't want to.

• 1:12:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:12:03Sean Fennessey?

  But we can. Um, okay. How much are you putting it up for? You said 100?

• 1:12:08Amanda Dobbins?

  I said 100.

• 1:12:08Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 150.

• 1:12:10Amanda Dobbins?

  I will say 200.

• 1:12:12Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm, I'll say 210.

• 1:12:16Amanda Dobbins?

  250. How much money do you have left?

• 1:12:18Sean Fennessey?

  $255.

• 1:12:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, 256. We're done.

• 1:12:23Sean Fennessey?

  Chris, you don't want F1?

• 1:12:24Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm okay with F1.

• 1:12:26Sean Fennessey?

  What is it about of the year you're not interested in?

• 1:12:29Speaker 06

  Um, I don't really care about Formula One driving that much.

• 1:12:34Sean Fennessey?

  I don't either.

• 1:12:34Amanda Dobbins?

  I wouldn't have.

• 1:12:35Speaker 06

  And that's a core part of this film.

• 1:12:37Amanda Dobbins?

  But I wouldn't have said that I really cared that much about fighter jets, to be honest, before I saw Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick.

• 1:12:45Speaker 06

  That's an interesting point, Amanda. I, I guess I always had a soft spot for fighter jets.

• 1:12:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:12:50Sean Fennessey?

  I would have said, I'm not interested in flesh-eating viruses until I saw 28 Days Later.

• 1:12:56Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:12:56Sean Fennessey?

  So, look at us now.

• 1:12:58Speaker 06

  Okay, so you have F1.

• 1:12:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:00Speaker 06

  And you have.

• 1:13:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Megan 2.0, yeah.

• 1:13:04Sean Fennessey?

  Well, Chris, you have to put something up now.

• 1:13:05Speaker 06

  Okay, so I need some, uh, what are we looking at here? I think we need something that will cross 85 or get some Oscar.

• 1:13:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:13:17Sean Fennessey?

  Now, this is hard to do.

• 1:13:19Speaker 06

  I wonder. Whether sentimental value is a good pick here. I feel like Joachim, Joachim von Trier's.

• 1:13:29Sean Fennessey?

  No Von.

• 1:13:30Speaker 06

  It's just joking.

• 1:13:31Sean Fennessey?

  Joachim Trier.

• 1:13:32Speaker 06

  Is it?

• 1:13:33Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:13:34Speaker 06

  All right.

• 1:13:35Sean Fennessey?

  Not lying to you.

• 1:13:36Speaker 06

  Are you sure?

• 1:13:36Sean Fennessey?

  Not lying to you.

• 1:13:38Speaker 06

  That being said.

• 1:13:40Sean Fennessey?

  You just be that as it made his name.

• 1:13:42Speaker 06

  Your mileage may vary on whether the Von is used.

• 1:13:46Sean Fennessey?

  I think you're thinking of Theo Von.

• 1:13:49Speaker 06

  Definitely didn't need to direct this.

• 1:13:51Sean Fennessey?

  Theo Von, sentimental value.

• 1:13:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Did not know what he looked like.

• 1:13:54Sean Fennessey?

  Theo?

• 1:13:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:13:56Sean Fennessey?

  Not a Road Rules watcher.

• 1:13:57Amanda Dobbins?

  That's, you are not the first ringer individual who said that to me. Um, so that was startling.

• 1:14:04Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, that's what he looks like.

• 1:14:04Speaker 06

  I think I hit 85 here, or I hit a Renata Rindsva best actress nom.

• 1:14:10Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:14:11Sean Fennessey?

  Interesting.

• 1:14:12Speaker 06

  Also very interested to see Corey Michael Smith, uh, who I liked so much in Saturday Night.

• 1:14:16Sean Fennessey?

  I was just talking him up about that on the pod that we did about when I had the movie on my list. I'm very excited about this movie.

• 1:14:22Speaker 06

  Family drama about two sisters who are forced to deal with their estranged father following the death of their mother, so it's a laugh riot. Uh, and Elle Fanning is in it with Corey Michael Smith. I assume Elle Fanning is the sister, I don't know.

• 1:14:34Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know, that's a bit confusing. I, I assume Stellan Skarsgård is the father.

• 1:14:38Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:14:39Sean Fennessey?

  So he's in this film.

• 1:14:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:14:41Sean Fennessey?

  Never had a, never had a bad day in his life on a film set.

• 1:14:44Speaker 06

  You know how like.

• 1:14:44Amanda Dobbins?

  It seems that there's another Scandinavian actress, I'm assuming, listed here without a Wikipedia page. Who has a character named Agnes, so I assume it's Renata Renzive and Inga Ibsdatter-Lilius?

• 1:15:00Speaker 06

  You nailed it.

• 1:15:00Sean Fennessey?

  That's right.

• 1:15:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Thanks so much. As Agnes.

• 1:15:02Sean Fennessey?

  Inga, that's a nice name. That's kind of fallen out of fashion.

• 1:15:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Agnes is a nice name. That's a nice name.

• 1:15:07Speaker 06

  Obviously a huge fan of his work, even though I added a middle name for him, but I just feel like the worst person in the world thing got just even bigger and bigger over time where like people reference it when they're doing like their Letterboxd, like, oh, my four favorites, like that kind of thing.

• 1:15:23Sean Fennessey?

  What are your four favorites?

• 1:15:26Speaker 06

  Jurassic World's Dominion.

• 1:15:32Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know why that makes me laugh so much.

• 1:15:34Amanda Dobbins?

  I just, I need to interrupt this just to note that we are recording this on Michelle Obama's birthday and Barack Obama has just posted a happy birthday message.

• 1:15:42Speaker 06

  Well, you would, you would.

• 1:15:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Exactly.

• 1:15:44Speaker 06

  But you would anyway, like.

• 1:15:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:46Speaker 06

  Right?

• 1:15:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Happy birthday to the love of my life, Michelle Obama.

• 1:15:50Speaker 06

  Thirty bucks.

• 1:15:50Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm so lucky to be able to take on life's adventures with you. Love you.

• 1:15:53Speaker 06

  Thirty bucks for sentimental value.

• 1:15:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Thirty-five.

• 1:15:56Sean Fennessey?

  Forty.

• 1:15:56Speaker 06

  Fifty.

• 1:15:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Fifty-five.

• 1:15:59Sean Fennessey?

  Sixty. It's hard to replicate what happened with the worst person in the world.

• 1:16:05Speaker 06

  Which is, we liked it a lot, like.

• 1:16:07Sean Fennessey?

  No, it just kind of, it elevated out of festival awareness into a kind of mainstream in the, in America because of award season and the introduction of a great new actress, Trier, who had been making movies for a while, but became more of an international auteur who is well-known. Unlike, you know, went into the Criterion Collection, you know, nominated for Oscars.

• 1:16:29Speaker 06

  But isn't that like, I mean, couldn't you make the argument that that's how like Robert Eggers built his career?

• 1:16:33Sean Fennessey?

  Totally.

• 1:16:33Speaker 06

  It's how Wes Anderson built his career. People started getting more and more excited about.

• 1:16:37Sean Fennessey?

  It's a test of, this movie is a test of that in some ways.

• 1:16:39Speaker 06

  So I'm betting, I'm betting on.

• 1:16:40Sean Fennessey?

  I like it. I like it. I respect it.

• 1:16:42Amanda Dobbins?

  What, where is the bidding right now?

• 1:16:44Sean Fennessey?

  Sean.

• 1:16:44Speaker 06

  Has it for sixty dollars. Seventy dollars.

• 1:16:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Seventy five dollars.

• 1:16:48Sean Fennessey?

  Eighty dollars.

• 1:16:49Speaker 06

  Eighty five dollars.

• 1:16:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Ninety?

• 1:16:54Speaker 06

  I mean, I have some money, you know? But not that much. But I gotta, I gotta start getting some, some quality here.

• 1:17:00Sean Fennessey?

  Some quality films? I'm, I'm, I'm good. I'm out.

• 1:17:04Speaker 06

  You're at ninety?

• 1:17:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Mm hmm.

• 1:17:06Speaker 06

  How, how passionate are you? Ninety five?

• 1:17:09Amanda Dobbins?

  A hundred?

• 1:17:11Speaker 06

  Is there no, there's no ceiling for you? There's no limit? Like Mark Wahlberg in The Gambler?

• 1:17:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, that's so true. I'm only, so I only made it like fifteen minutes through.

• 1:17:20Speaker 06

  The podcast or the movie?

• 1:17:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Your, your, the podcast. But it was one of those things when I saw that you guys had done it.

• 1:17:27Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:17:27Amanda Dobbins?

  I, brought me real joy, just like on the feed, but then.

• 1:17:32Speaker 06

  Glad there's one of you.

• 1:17:33Amanda Dobbins?

  And then I was listening and it was still in the, we're taking Mark Wahlberg as an actor seriously portion of the podcast. So I'm looking forward to getting to like the gambler part of the podcast.

• 1:17:43Speaker 06

  Uh, let's do ninety, uh, nine dollars.

• 1:17:48Sean Fennessey?

  Amanda already bet a hundred.

• 1:17:51Speaker 06

  Let's do a hundred and ten. Let's do a hundred and ten. I have a good feeling about this.

• 1:17:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, um, I mean, I just have to decide whether it's what I want to do right now, or I have a lot of other movies that I'm very passionate about. The, the eighty five Metacritic is hard.

• 1:18:14Speaker 06

  I think he gets it.

• 1:18:15Amanda Dobbins?

  But I guess I can do, I, I mean, I think that's true, but I could also wait and try to do that later on.

• 1:18:20Speaker 06

  Those are rookie numbers for Joe.

• 1:18:23Sean Fennessey?

  Joe Bunter.

• 1:18:28Sean Fennessey?

  The worst person in the world currently has a ninety one score on Metacritic.

• 1:18:33Speaker 06

  Eighty five is a high number that you set that up, dog.

• 1:18:36Sean Fennessey?

  It is. That's why I did it.

• 1:18:37Speaker 06

  So.

• 1:18:38Sean Fennessey?

  His previous film Oslo, August thirty first, has an eighty four.

• 1:18:41Speaker 06

  That's. Oslo is great.

• 1:18:44Sean Fennessey?

  Repreeze has a seventy nine.

• 1:18:46Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. So he lives in, in that era.

• 1:18:48Sean Fennessey?

  Thelma is a seventy four and Louder Than Bombs is a seventy.

• 1:18:52Speaker 06

  He has a fucking condo in that.

• 1:18:54Sean Fennessey?

  Oslo, August thirty first was not his previous film. This is his first film, second film.

• 1:18:57Speaker 06

  I get it. Okay.

• 1:19:00Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, okay.

• 1:19:01Speaker 06

  Four movies now. Sean has two, Amanda has two. Interesting. This is not how that usually goes.

• 1:19:06Amanda Dobbins?

  I know. This is also bad podcasting because then we're just gonna face off at each other and be kinda spiteful. So, don't, so don't bid for a while so that you can stay in the mix.

• 1:19:16Speaker 06

  I, I know.

• 1:19:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:19:17Speaker 06

  All right.

• 1:19:18Sean Fennessey?

  I'm so happy to be here with both you guys.

• 1:19:20Speaker 06

  I'm not gonna finish my bid here and then not talk for an hour.

• 1:19:25Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, that's true.

• 1:19:26Speaker 06

  Yeah. Also, did you know that Zen has a rewards program? I just found out about that.

• 1:19:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Horrifying.

• 1:19:33Sean Fennessey?

  Is it called the passport, just like J. Crew? The Zen passport?

• 1:19:36Speaker 06

  It says, uh, collect, track, and redeem Zen rewards.

• 1:19:42Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. I'm gonna put A Big Bold Beautiful Journey on the board for $50.

• 1:19:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:19:49Sean Fennessey?

  This is a new film from Kogonata starring Margot Robbie and Colin Farrell. It's the first film since After Yang. I neglected to mention Columbus on the previous time I discussed it. One of my favorite movies of that year.

• 1:20:01Speaker 06

  Did people say, sir, you neglected to mention Columbus? Or you just remembered that you neglected?

• 1:20:06Sean Fennessey?

  I just remembered I neglected to mention Columbus. I prefer Columbus to After Yang if I have to choose between Kogonata films.

• 1:20:11Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:11Sean Fennessey?

  Um, and this is, as Bob pointed out, a very mysterious logline in this movie, quite vague. It is coming out in May, so we would not have the opportunity to get it next time around. I'm just deeply intrigued and I want it to be something special. And there's certainly a world where a movie like this gets awards recognition or, you know, crosses some sort of Metacritic threshold, but I'm just curious about it. I just wanna see it. And I, I hope for the best with it. It's what I'm, it's what I'm in the business for.

• 1:20:39Amanda Dobbins?

  That's beautiful.

• 1:20:40Sean Fennessey?

  Thank you.

• 1:20:40Amanda Dobbins?

  That's really exciting.

• 1:20:41Sean Fennessey?

  So what did I say? $50?

• 1:20:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:20:43Sean Fennessey?

  If I have to put a numerical value on my appreciation for the work of art and movies.

• 1:20:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:20:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Sold to Sean for $50?

• 1:20:51Sean Fennessey?

  Amazing.

• 1:20:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:20:53Sean Fennessey?

  Wonderful, thank you so much.

• 1:20:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, you're so welcome. You get another?

• 1:20:57Sean Fennessey?

  Put another movie out.

• 1:20:58Speaker 06

  Just want to throw this out there.

• 1:20:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:20:59Speaker 06

  A couple too many movies for my taste have very vague log lines that are like, "Two people journey through time to..."

• 1:21:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:21:06Speaker 06

  "...on an amazing adventure."

• 1:21:07Amanda Dobbins?

  That's hard.

• 1:21:08Speaker 06

  That's not specific enough.

• 1:21:09Sean Fennessey?

  Is the issue not enough dinosaurs in the description?

• 1:21:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Is the big picture is a new mission statement?

• 1:21:14Speaker 06

  Is "Two people journey through time on an amazing adventure"?

• 1:21:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh huh.

• 1:21:18Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, two miscreants.

• 1:21:19Speaker 06

  But I wouldn't know that it's a movie podcast if I heard that. You know what I mean? Like, I want to know, is Coquelin making a period piece? Is it a sci-fi futuristic piece? Is this movie about the Civil War? Which one? Alex Garland's?

• 1:21:30Sean Fennessey?

  There will-

• 1:21:30Speaker 06

  Abraham Lincoln's? You know?

• 1:21:33Sean Fennessey?

  Well, they're both relevant. Um, I... I don't agree with you, but there will be a trailer and marketing materials for this film, and we will find out, probably within the next eight weeks.

• 1:21:43Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:21:44Sean Fennessey?

  So, I'm not too worried.

• 1:21:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:21:46Sean Fennessey?

  Wouldn't you say? It's a movie that comes out on May 9th.

• 1:21:48Amanda Dobbins?

  I'd love to look forward to marketing materials.

• 1:21:50Sean Fennessey?

  Something we discussed here on the show from time to time.

• 1:21:52Amanda Dobbins?

  We do.

• 1:21:53Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, okay, I have another movie to put out into the world.

• 1:21:57Sean Fennessey?

  How do we circle the square in this conversation?

• 1:22:01Sean Fennessey?

  How about "The Phoenician Scheme"?

• 1:22:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm, let's do it.

• 1:22:05Speaker 06

  I'm so excited for Michael Cera to join the Wes Anderson repertory company.

• 1:22:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:22:10Speaker 06

  I feel like that's been... That's been something I... I didn't know I was dreaming, but I was.

• 1:22:15Sean Fennessey?

  This is Wes's new movie.

• 1:22:17Speaker 06

  Spy movie.

• 1:22:18Sean Fennessey?

  It's an espionage comedy, a category he's never really pursued before. Although, if you look at his first couple of movies, you can see his huge interest in those kinds of stories. Benicio del Toro, Sarah, Bill Murray, Riz Ahmed, Tom Hanks, Benedict Cumberbatch, Scarlett Johansson, Charlotte Gainsborough, Robert Friend, Willem Dafoe, Bryan Cranston. It's a ridiculous-

• 1:22:38Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:22:38Sean Fennessey?

  -cast, as per usual now. He's almost exclusively now working in mega ensemble. Almost all of his movies now have at least 10 notable names.

• 1:22:50Amanda Dobbins?

  "Asteroid City" has a 76 Metascore.

• 1:22:54Amanda Dobbins?

  I just, this is an abomination.

• 1:22:58Sean Fennessey?

  Wake up, people. Wake up. Wake up. They gotta wake up.

• 1:23:01Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I agree.

• 1:23:02Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I mean, something has obviously happened with him where everybody is like, it's all the same now. We talked about it when we did the Asteroid City episode. And then I think we all rewatched Asteroid City and liked it even more when we rewatched it, which is the, which is the case for a lot of his movies where you come to appreciate it more deeply. But um, this one, like so many, co-written with Roman Coppola. You know, I assume it could be a Cannes premiere, could be a Fall Festival premiere, but it sounds like it'll be out before the year is over. I'll put it on the board for 50 bucks.

• 1:23:34Speaker 06

  So tough one here. As you mentioned, Metacritic's starting to be blind to his charms. Often, he'll get like a screenplay nom here, an actor, supporting actor nom somewhere, but rarely gets lavish.

• 1:23:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, it's overlooked.

• 1:23:50Speaker 06

  It's hard to imagine The Phoenician Scheme making a hundred million dollars, but that's, that's okay.

• 1:23:54Sean Fennessey?

  Sometimes you wanna just have a good slate.

• 1:23:56Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:23:57Sean Fennessey?

  You know, so this isn't an effort to have a good slate. We can all agree on Wes Anderson, his greatness.

• 1:24:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yes. So you, 50 dollars?

• 1:24:05Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, 100?

• 1:24:08Sean Fennessey?

  Chris is out.

• 1:24:09Amanda Dobbins?

  You're out? I mean, you don't have to be.

• 1:24:11Speaker 06

  I'm, I'm out because I, I need a specific thing for my fifth to buttress. And I'm also out just because I love hearing you two talk.

• 1:24:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's beautiful.

• 1:24:20Sean Fennessey?

  I actually don't think that's true.

• 1:24:22Speaker 06

  Two people on a journey through time on a magical adventure. I do. What are you talking about?

• 1:24:26Sean Fennessey?

  Do you?

• 1:24:27Speaker 06

  Oh, yeah. You guys?

• 1:24:29Amanda Dobbins?

  So what, what do you need? You need a guaranteed Oscar?

• 1:24:34Speaker 06

  I think I'd like to get into the, the chin scratching critic hive with my next pick.

• 1:24:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:24:41Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, you gotta look for another Von Trier film.

• 1:24:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:24:46Amanda Dobbins?

  I will say, I do think Sean made a good point is that it's a slightly easier to do that in the second half of the year.

• 1:24:53Speaker 06

  I agree with you, yes.

• 1:24:54Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm just trying to share a strategy with you so you can have what you want.

• 1:24:57Sean Fennessey?

  This is me breaking my suggestion, obviously. I could have waited on this.

• 1:25:00Amanda Dobbins?

  No, and this is what I'm thinking. I mean, this could be Cannes. This could be early. Asteroid City was. Wes Anderson, a storied resident of Paris.

• 1:25:10Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know if this movie has distribution right now.

• 1:25:13Speaker 06

  It will, though.

• 1:25:14Sean Fennessey?

  But the fact that it doesn't means it's definitely not dated, which means it probably is the second half of the year.

• 1:25:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:21Sean Fennessey?

  So that's interesting. Indian Paintbrush is the production company, as always with all of Wes's movies, but usually by this point.

• 1:25:27Speaker 06

  Focus or whoever's.

• 1:25:28Sean Fennessey?

  Focus is, or yeah, or Sony Pictures Classics, or somebody is coming in.

• 1:25:31Speaker 06

  Do you think Focus is like, this one sucks?

• 1:25:33Sean Fennessey?

  I hope not. That would be concerning, although they're probably beating their chest these days with the Nosferatu success, so.

• 1:25:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:25:40Sean Fennessey?

  You know, how do they level up as a movie studio? Interesting question. You don't care.

• 1:25:44Amanda Dobbins?

  All right, $100.

• 1:25:49Sean Fennessey?

  I don't really have a lot of money left to work with here.

• 1:25:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:25:51Sean Fennessey?

  So there's some challenges in that one.

• 1:25:52Amanda Dobbins?

  And you also have, um, you have two minutes left to fill.

• 1:25:55Sean Fennessey?

  It appears you have $714 left.

• 1:25:58Amanda Dobbins?

  I can spend whatever I want.

• 1:26:03Sean Fennessey?

  I'll say 101.

• 1:26:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Um, I'll say 102. What are we doing?

• 1:26:12Sean Fennessey?

  See, you're holding on to 315?

• 1:26:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, I could say, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna, can I get involved? Sure, why not? Yeah, I'll do 150.

• 1:26:19Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, I'll do 200.

• 1:26:21Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:26:22Amanda Dobbins?

  I think I want this. I think I would have brought this to the table.

• 1:26:25Sean Fennessey?

  To the market?

• 1:26:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:26:27Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 1:26:28Amanda Dobbins?

  I really love.

• 1:26:29Sean Fennessey?

  You gotta gusty up the quality of your slate right now, too.

• 1:26:31Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean.

• 1:26:32Sean Fennessey?

  You got F1 and Megan 2.0.

• 1:26:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:26:34Sean Fennessey?

  No disrespect, but you know.

• 1:26:35Amanda Dobbins?

  The work of Joseph Kaczynski means a lot to me and my family.

• 1:26:40Amanda Dobbins?

  So it's like chill out.

• 1:26:43Speaker 06

  Has not seen Tron yet?

• 1:26:45Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, no, I wonder if he would like it.

• 1:26:49Speaker 06

  The new, the Kaczynski.

• 1:26:50Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm, I'm seriously considering showing him a complete unknown. Uh, cause now he requests Bob Dylan and the way he pronounces Bob Dylan is very cute.

• 1:26:58Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, I can talk about Monica Barbaro in that film.

• 1:27:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, I mean, I will also join that conversation. Uh, I spent a lot of time thinking about how beautiful she looks, but you know, since it's mostly song performances and beautiful people. I think he would respond to that.

• 1:27:11Sean Fennessey?

  Sure. He's digging on Bob.

• 1:27:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, but no, the Wes Anderson, how much did I bid?

• 1:27:17Sean Fennessey?

  200?

• 1:27:17Amanda Dobbins?

  200.

• 1:27:18Speaker 06

  $200.

• 1:27:19Amanda Dobbins?

  One of my favorite filmmakers, I think we talked about how much we all slept on Asteroid City, even as we were like, what a revelation. I mean, it's.

• 1:27:28Sean Fennessey?

  All the meta boys and girls as well.

• 1:27:30Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:30Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:27:31Amanda Dobbins?

  So I, and I like espionage movies.

• 1:27:34Sean Fennessey?

  It's yours.

• 1:27:34Amanda Dobbins?

  Comedies.

• 1:27:35Speaker 06

  You got it.

• 1:27:35Amanda Dobbins?

  That's very exciting.

• 1:27:37Sean Fennessey?

  Uh, now it's your turn to recommend a movie.

• 1:27:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, great. Okay. So I have Asteroid City. So I have.

• 1:27:41Sean Fennessey?

  No, I, I misspoke. It's Chris's turn. I forgot Chris goes second.

• 1:27:44Speaker 06

  So.

• 1:27:48Speaker 06

  Do we have like a, are you, are you like, we have to get out of here soon?

• 1:27:51Sean Fennessey?

  No, I'm here with you. I'm, I'm, I'm feeling connected to you guys.

• 1:27:55Speaker 06

  I kind of want to just talk about this movie. I don't know. I can't remember. I don't think you, you did talk about it. I anticipated, but I'm just going to throw it out there. Uh, Running Man?

• 1:28:03Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:03Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:28:04Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, let's talk about it.

• 1:28:04Speaker 06

  Yeah. Uh, do you think this will be good?

• 1:28:09Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I think it's a very cool challenge for the two primary people responsible for.

• 1:28:14Speaker 06

  Edgar Wright and Glenn Powell.

• 1:28:15Sean Fennessey?

  Edgar Wright and Glenn Powell.

• 1:28:15Speaker 06

  Right.

• 1:28:16Sean Fennessey?

  Cause it is a big time movie star part and it is a big time franchise movie, which is something that Edgar has basically never done. You know, he did.

• 1:28:25Speaker 06

  Walked away from him, man.

• 1:28:26Sean Fennessey?

  He did do Scott Pilgrim, which was, was IP in a way, but he's never had such a known property before.

• 1:28:35Sean Fennessey?

  Two guys I love, two guys whose, whose stuff I dig.

• 1:28:38Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:28:39Sean Fennessey?

  The Running Man is not my favorite story.

• 1:28:42Speaker 06

  It's not.

• 1:28:42Sean Fennessey?

  It's not my favorite Arnold movie. It's not my favorite Stephen King thing. It isn't a thing that I love. I do think it was that story and the way that the movie is made is very prescient about. The modern entertainment economy.

• 1:28:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, like, I'm curious to see what they do with The Running Man now that The Running Man is like, pretty much like what you see when you watch television.

• 1:29:01Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:29:02Speaker 06

  Or look at your phone.

• 1:29:03Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, it's a little bit like people posting George Carlin clips on social media, you know, where you're like, "He nailed it, he was there." Like, he was, and we, people knew then. Just like when you watch The Running Man, you were like, "Yeah, okay, this is where we're going." So...

• 1:29:17Speaker 06

  Coleman Domingo, Josh Brolin, Lee Pace, and Michael Cera, and Katie O'Brien is a great ensemble.

• 1:29:21Sean Fennessey?

  Incredible. And even the idea of Lee Pace and Katie O'Brien as the other, like, warriors go in to fight Glenn Powell is such a good idea.

• 1:29:32Sean Fennessey?

  It'll be really, really, really well-made and slick and stylish and energetic and cool. It's all about the script.

• 1:29:40Speaker 06

  I think this is a hundred million.

• 1:29:42Sean Fennessey?

  And what do you think?

• 1:29:43Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know about that.

• 1:29:45Speaker 06

  I mean, if Twisters, Twisters made how much domestic? It did okay, did like two, two, three hundred, right?

• 1:29:51Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, over a hundred, for sure.

• 1:29:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but Twisters is a phenomenon.

• 1:29:54Speaker 06

  But I'm saying like...

• 1:29:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Like, Twister, the film, is like ten years later.

• 1:29:59Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:29:59Amanda Dobbins?

  And like a touch point for way more people.

• 1:30:01Speaker 06

  Right, The Running Man is like...

• 1:30:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, just, well, just because of time and...

• 1:30:05Speaker 06

  And it's a B Schwarzenegger movie, probably.

• 1:30:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Um...

• 1:30:09Speaker 06

  I'm gonna go a hundred, just to, just to get us started, and I think that this could, this could be a box office hit, maybe.

• 1:30:17Sean Fennessey?

  So it's a November release?

• 1:30:19Speaker 06

  Oh, okay. I thought this was a summer release.

• 1:30:21Sean Fennessey?

  It's November. It's an interesting November this year. It comes out on the same day as Predator: Badlands.

• 1:30:28Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay.

• 1:30:29Sean Fennessey?

  Dan Trachtenberg's follow-up.

• 1:30:30Speaker 06

  That's going in the theaters?

• 1:30:31Sean Fennessey?

  It's going in the theaters.

• 1:30:32Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:30:32Sean Fennessey?

  Not a streaming release, like his last one.

• 1:30:34Amanda Dobbins?

  No, but, like, sincerely, one of my favorite things is when you reenact Predator movies for me. No, you came in to my office many, for one of, like, a 2019 one? Yeah.

• 1:30:49Speaker 06

  It was for the Shane Black one.

• 1:30:50Amanda Dobbins?

  So tell me what you know.

• 1:30:52Speaker 06

  That L. Fanning is in a Predator movie about two sisters running across, I bet, the Badlands.

• 1:30:57Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:30:57Speaker 06

  And probably being chased by predators.

• 1:30:59Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:31:00Speaker 06

  And Dan try...

• 1:31:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Who's the sister?

• 1:31:01Speaker 06

  I don't know, maybe it's L. Dakota, maybe it's L. playing twins, I have no idea.

• 1:31:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, it would be fun if it were Dakota.

• 1:31:07Speaker 06

  Dan Trachtenberg has made a bunch of really good movies.

• 1:31:09Sean Fennessey?

  I agree, I'm a big fan of his. Predator: Badlands and The Running Man coming out on the same day is incredible bros smashing slushies together at the movie theater all afternoon situation.

• 1:31:23Sean Fennessey?

  The following week is Now You See Me 3. The following week is Wicked for Good.

• 1:31:27Speaker 06

  Where are you on the NYSM experience?

• 1:31:30Sean Fennessey?

  I have loved talking to and hearing Jesse Eisenberg talk about how much he loves making those movies. Because he's like, you might think I'm an idiot for saying this, but let me tell you, that character is nothing like the way that I am. And so getting to be that guy, that magician, that weird magician.

• 1:31:46Speaker 06

  He's the most charming magician in the world.

• 1:31:47Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, and he's like, I'm Jesse Eisenberg. Yeah. Made me more excited to go back and look at those movies. The new one's made by Ruben Fleischer too, who's a director who I have a lot of time for despite some of his missteps over the years. I love Venom, obviously, and I really love Zombieland, so, you know, we'll see.

• 1:32:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Can I read you the run after Wicked for Good?

• 1:32:08Speaker 06

  Do I just have this for a hundred dollars?

• 1:32:09Sean Fennessey?

  You do. It has been like six and a half minutes, so yeah, sorry.

• 1:32:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Zootopia 2, Five Nights at Freddy's 2, Avatar Fire and Ash. And then, it's something we're probably overlooking, but Bobby can speak to it. The SpongeBob movie, Search for SquarePants.

• 1:32:28Sean Fennessey?

  I love some SpongeBob movies, but I don't think that's the one that I love, though. Hold on.

• 1:32:32Speaker 06

  Two sponges traveling across a landscape on a journey through time.

• 1:32:36Sean Fennessey?

  A big, bold, beautiful SpongeBob.

• 1:32:38Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:32:38Amanda Dobbins?

  That, that made me, you know, that's, I know that the, the tent pole movies get dated first.

• 1:32:46Sean Fennessey?

  You don't want to be on the SpongeBob episode?

• 1:32:49Amanda Dobbins?

  I think I have seen some SpongeBob from like in a babysitting context.

• 1:32:54Sean Fennessey?

  Sure. What'd you think? There's a really incredible Nosferatu SpongeBob episode. That's how I learned about Nosferatu.

• 1:33:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, that's cool.

• 1:33:02Sean Fennessey?

  That's great, actually. I like that.

• 1:33:03Amanda Dobbins?

  And I know it means a lot to Bobby and his community.

• 1:33:07Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:33:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, so I'm happy for everyone.

• 1:33:12Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. Uh, you've got to put a movie up, right?

• 1:33:15Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, okay, I guess so. Yeah.

• 1:33:17Speaker 06

  Oh, I got my, I'm done. That's too bad.

• 1:33:21Sean Fennessey?

  You also get $215 from Sean's back pocket, though, so, big win for you.

• 1:33:25Amanda Dobbins?

  That is nice. Okay.

• 1:33:27Sean Fennessey?

  Got a lot more to spare.

• 1:33:29Amanda Dobbins?

  So...

• 1:33:30Sean Fennessey?

  I've got two spots left, you've got two spots left.

• 1:33:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:33:33Sean Fennessey?

  We've got a combined 720 Somolians.

• 1:33:36Amanda Dobbins?

  Right, but you have $205 and I have $514, so I can just buy two movies that I want.

• 1:33:43Sean Fennessey?

  If you'd like.

• 1:33:44Amanda Dobbins?

  Um, but that doesn't seem really fun.

• 1:33:47Sean Fennessey?

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:33:49Amanda Dobbins?

  But like, do I wanna be a real asshole and just take Battle of Backton Cross from you?

• 1:33:55Speaker 06

  Well, we don't know if it's coming out this year.

• 1:33:57Amanda Dobbins?

  That's true. And I have been being like, I don't know about that. But like-

• 1:34:01Sean Fennessey?

  Battle of Backton Cross is not gonna cross any of the thresholds.

• 1:34:04Speaker 06

  You don't think Leonardo DiCaprio can get a movie over a hundred million dollars just on his own?

• 1:34:08Amanda Dobbins?

  I know, but see, like, you're already like fidgeting, cuz you look really upset.

• 1:34:12Sean Fennessey?

  Well, I know, I know, I see the narrative-

• 1:34:15Amanda Dobbins?

  See, this is like, now he, he creates these rules, and then he gets in this situation, and then the tables are turned, and he's just, he's flustered. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not in any way. But like, I just want you to know that that's power that I have over you right now.

• 1:34:31Sean Fennessey?

  You should do what you feel is right. That's what David Lynch would've said.

• 1:34:34Speaker 06

  That's what Paul Thomas Anderson would do. He'd say, Mike DeLuca, cut the check.

• 1:34:37Sean Fennessey?

  You know what, you know what David Lynch said? And this is advice you should take. Fix your heart or die.

• 1:34:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:34:44Sean Fennessey?

  That's, that's good advice.

• 1:34:47Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I'm not, I, like, I just, I want you to know that I could do that. And I know what you're doing.

• 1:34:53Sean Fennessey?

  Could you imagine the things I could do to you? You have no idea.

• 1:34:59Speaker 06

  Maybe I should've stayed in.

• 1:35:03Sean Fennessey?

  You were wise to get out when you did.

• 1:35:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:05Sean Fennessey?

  It's a guy who's seen Den of Thieves right there.

• 1:35:07Amanda Dobbins?

  This is why I told him to not do, because then it just becomes really ugly.

• 1:35:10Speaker 06

  Are we getting to Bellany Pilled? Is this coming?

• 1:35:12Amanda Dobbins?

  I didn't want it to be ugly, but-

• 1:35:13Sean Fennessey?

  I think it's coming out. I, I think, I was fidgeting cuz I'm, I, I am annoyed preemptively-

• 1:35:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:18Sean Fennessey?

  by the PTA movie failed discourse.

• 1:35:21Speaker 06

  Yes. The, the Killers of the Flower Moon re-ducks.

• 1:35:24Sean Fennessey?

  I don't wanna, I don't wanna live through that. I think that's a huge waste of time.

• 1:35:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:35:27Sean Fennessey?

  This movie, no reasonable person should give him a hundred and eighty million dollars or whatever to make a movie. It's super cool that it happened.

• 1:35:34Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:35:34Sean Fennessey?

  Um, and I will celebrate that fact, but from a financial strategy perspective, that seems weird that this happened.

• 1:35:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, I'm gonna do Marty Supreme two hundred bucks.

• 1:35:45Speaker 06

  Great.

• 1:35:46Sean Fennessey?

  Good pick.

• 1:35:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, thank you.

• 1:35:47Sean Fennessey?

  Josh Safdie's new movie coming up Christmas Day.

• 1:35:50Speaker 06

  About ping pong.

• 1:35:51Sean Fennessey?

  About ping pong.

• 1:35:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Ping pong.

• 1:35:52Sean Fennessey?

  About a real ping pong champion portrayed by.

• 1:35:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Timothy Chalamet.

• 1:35:56Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:35:57Speaker 06

  And co-starring Gwyneth Paltrow.

• 1:35:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, so.

• 1:35:59Sean Fennessey?

  I only have $205, so I'll say 205.

• 1:36:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:36:02Sean Fennessey?

  204, because I need a dollar.

• 1:36:03Amanda Dobbins?

  I will say 206.

• 1:36:06Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 1:36:06Speaker 06

  So you take this.

• 1:36:07Sean Fennessey?

  It's yours.

• 1:36:08Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm excited about this. I feel like this is a good movie for all of us.

• 1:36:11Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, a great, great big picture movie.

• 1:36:13Amanda Dobbins?

  And.

• 1:36:14Speaker 06

  Look at you.

• 1:36:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, thank you so much.

• 1:36:16Speaker 06

  A little slow getting out of the gate, and then look at this, look at this rotation.

• 1:36:20Amanda Dobbins?

  Was I slow getting out of the gate, or was I generous to Sean? And then, um, just.

• 1:36:26Speaker 06

  It seemed like you were slow. I mean respectfully.

• 1:36:29Amanda Dobbins?

  You were just like yelling about vampires for 45 minutes, you know?

• 1:36:33Sean Fennessey?

  It's hurry here.

• 1:36:33Amanda Dobbins?

  And that's sick.

• 1:36:34Speaker 06

  You're a podcaster.

• 1:36:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, that's really, I liked the dinosaur bit, so I really enjoyed that, but I wasn't gonna bid on that.

• 1:36:43Amanda Dobbins?

  So, you know.

• 1:36:44Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:36:45Amanda Dobbins?

  All right, what am I gonna do? Should I do one for me? Should I do one?

• 1:36:50Speaker 06

  Wait, you, you said Marty Supreme, and you bid on it. Do you have a, do you get to nominate a movie?

• 1:36:56Sean Fennessey?

  No, she has two in a row.

• 1:36:57Speaker 06

  Oh, you have two, that's right.

• 1:36:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, I'm gonna, you know what I'm gonna do, because I can't get it next time? And I'm gonna spend all my money on it. Opus, written and directed by Marc Anthony Green, $308. Stars I O Dibery and John Maguire. Yeah, but also it stars I O Dibery, and it's A24.

• 1:37:15Speaker 06

  I agree.

• 1:37:15Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know if it's gonna get to, maybe it could get to 100, I don't know.

• 1:37:20Sean Fennessey?

  That would make it the first A24 movie to cross 100 million dollars?

• 1:37:24Amanda Dobbins?

  That's fine. I, sometimes you can do things that you want, and that's what I want to do.

• 1:37:29Sean Fennessey?

  Absolutely. If you've proved nothing else.

• 1:37:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:32Sean Fennessey?

  About the world and yourself in the many years we've been doing this show together, it's sometimes you do what you want.

• 1:37:37Speaker 06

  I wanna make a film that stars me.

• 1:37:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:37:40Speaker 06

  About a man who loses his mind trying to recap Jurassic movies. And then you take it in an auction, because you love me so much. You're just like, $1,000 for Chris's. I will show you the life of the mind.

• 1:37:53Amanda Dobbins?

  But like, you know that just, like, you're on a biographical project.

• 1:37:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:37:59Amanda Dobbins?

  I would draft, like, every year for all the money.

• 1:38:02Speaker 06

  I appreciate it.

• 1:38:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Uh, I really think that there should be more. Content and art made about the Chris Ryan experience.

• 1:38:09Speaker 06

  Thanks, it's pretty boring right now, but I appreciate it.

• 1:38:13Amanda Dobbins?

  So you can do whatever you want, and you're welcome.

• 1:38:18Amanda Dobbins?

  I guess I should have let you bid on Opus, but I want it.

• 1:38:21Speaker 06

  Are you gonna take Havoc? You know that's actually coming out now.

• 1:38:24Sean Fennessey?

  This is the actual Gareth Evans movie starring Tom Hardy.

• 1:38:27Speaker 06

  Tom Hardy fighting his way through the London Underground.

• 1:38:29Sean Fennessey?

  Which I think was filmed in 1978, and they're finally, they're letting it out of the cage now, which is exciting for you. Why has this movie been on the shelf for four years?

• 1:38:38Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 1:38:41Sean Fennessey?

  Any two movies I want from the entire movie year slate?

• 1:38:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Do it, be true to yourself.

• 1:38:49Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take The Battle of Bactin Cross for $1.

• 1:38:52Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:38:53Sean Fennessey?

  Sort of inversion of the financial approach taken on the funding of this film. Paul Thomas Anderson's new movie that I can't wait to see. This is the last time I will mention the discourse about that movie, by the way.

• 1:39:06Speaker 06

  I only brought it up because if you were to spend, say, a lot of money on this, if this had become like the first thing we threw out there and it went up to like $400, you'd be bummed out if it was like, actually, we're gonna kick this to January, you know?

• 1:39:18Sean Fennessey?

  That's, I mean, that is literally what happened with Mickey 17, right? And it's same studio, it's plausible that happens another time.

• 1:39:27Sean Fennessey?

  What is the next movie that I want?

• 1:39:29Speaker 06

  So let's just kind of look at your, you got Mission Impossible, that's gonna be a blockbuster. 28, you probably get a blockbuster there. A Big Bold Beautiful Journey, that's the Coganata movie?

• 1:39:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:39:40Speaker 06

  So you're hoping for Metacritic there and possibly an Oscar.

• 1:39:44Sean Fennessey?

  No, it was 50 bucks, so I was hoping for a good movie. That was honestly my thinking.

• 1:39:47Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:39:48Sean Fennessey?

  And also a movie that we're not gonna, I would not be able to bid on next year.

• 1:39:51Speaker 06

  Cause it's really, really, and then Bactin, you know, there's a lot of things that could happen there, it also could knock him out. So you need...

• 1:39:57Sean Fennessey?

  It's unusual for PTA movies to not get Oscar nominations.

• 1:40:00Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:40:01Sean Fennessey?

  Just putting that out there.

• 1:40:02Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:02Sean Fennessey?

  So I feel like I can at least lean on that. Metacritic is a coin flip.

• 1:40:06Speaker 06

  But if this is like a wacky, Inherent Vice type comedy.

• 1:40:09Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, more challenging. Should we, should we just do the Metacritic game for Paul Thomas Anderson quickly?

• 1:40:13Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 1:40:14Speaker 02

  He's got five over 85.

• 1:40:16Sean Fennessey?

  That's a lot.

• 1:40:17Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:40:17Sean Fennessey?

  What are, what are they, Bob?

• 1:40:18Speaker 02

  It's The Master, Boogie Nights.

• 1:40:21Sean Fennessey?

  Licorice Pizza, Phantom Thread, and There Will Be Blood. Yeah, okay.

• 1:40:24Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:25Sean Fennessey?

  Um, so any movie I want. Let's look at my list. Hmm. Now, I could hurt you.

• 1:40:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, go ahead.

• 1:40:35Sean Fennessey?

  But I won't do it.

• 1:40:36Amanda Dobbins?

  All right.

• 1:40:37Sean Fennessey?

  I won't do it, because that's not what I'm about.

• 1:40:39Amanda Dobbins?

  I mean, I have not done it twice now. I have been the bigger person times three thousand on this podcast. And you've met the only-

• 1:40:47Sean Fennessey?

  Literally, no one would agree with that. Not a single soul would agree that you were ever the bigger person.

• 1:40:53Amanda Dobbins?

  I gave you Mission Impossible, and I didn't take Battle of the Back and Cross from you.

• 1:40:56Sean Fennessey?

  Um.

• 1:40:56Amanda Dobbins?

  I gave it to you. You got it for one dollar, Sean.

• 1:40:58Sean Fennessey?

  I did.

• 1:40:59Amanda Dobbins?

  So, you know.

• 1:41:01Sean Fennessey?

  What, are these the tales you tell yourself?

• 1:41:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Let's pick a movie.

• 1:41:05Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm. I'm gonna take my time.

• 1:41:08Amanda Dobbins?

  This is, this is why we need you to hang in.

• 1:41:11Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know, I'm sorry.

• 1:41:12Amanda Dobbins?

  It's okay.

• 1:41:13Sean Fennessey?

  What do you mean? You guys can, you guys can chat.

• 1:41:15Amanda Dobbins?

  But you're excited.

• 1:41:16Speaker 06

  I was trying to bring Running Man up as like a conversation topic.

• 1:41:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I'm just not, I'm not-

• 1:41:20Speaker 06

  And then I, I kinda got distracted.

• 1:41:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Real, real mixed on Edgar Wright. You know, it can work for me or it cannot.

• 1:41:24Speaker 06

  I mean, there's some huge movies here, Sean.

• 1:41:26Amanda Dobbins?

  I love you, Glenn Powell.

• 1:41:27Sean Fennessey?

  There's some what?

• 1:41:28Speaker 06

  Huge movies that you can just get for cheap, or you can be like, I'm gonna-

• 1:41:33Sean Fennessey?

  I know, I don't really need a huge movie at the moment.

• 1:41:36Speaker 06

  Well, then-

• 1:41:36Sean Fennessey?

  Is the thing I'm thinking about.

• 1:41:37Speaker 06

  Take Deliver Me From Nowhere. Brother.

• 1:41:39Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know what that is. Oh, is that Bruce Springsteen?

• 1:41:41Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:41:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh.

• 1:41:42Sean Fennessey?

  Is that coming out?

• 1:41:43Speaker 06

  I mean, it's, they're, I think they're almost done shooting it.

• 1:41:46Sean Fennessey?

  I think you should try to get that next time around.

• 1:41:47Speaker 06

  Do you know that Inaritu's movie is supposed to come out this year, maybe?

• 1:41:50Sean Fennessey?

  No, twenty-six.

• 1:41:51Speaker 06

  They already shot, it started shooting in November.

• 1:41:53Sean Fennessey?

  Twenty-six, it's dated, I think.

• 1:41:56Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:41:56Sean Fennessey?

  Another Apple movie, Tom Cruise.

• 1:41:58Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:41:59Speaker 06

  Talking about movies, they're good.

• 1:42:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Mickey Seventeen, still available, and March seventeenth release.

• 1:42:05Speaker 06

  Man, that voice.

• 1:42:08Sean Fennessey?

  Too much? Good?

• 1:42:09Speaker 06

  Nah.

• 1:42:09Sean Fennessey?

  You don't like it?

• 1:42:10Speaker 06

  Not into it. I'm sure he'll be cool in the movie, but that's a tough beat.

• 1:42:14Sean Fennessey?

  Where are you at on our pets?

• 1:42:15Speaker 06

  I like it.

• 1:42:16Sean Fennessey?

  We know you love Twilight. Those are your favorite of his films.

• 1:42:18Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm really, really pro.

• 1:42:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:42:20Amanda Dobbins?

  I just wanna, I just wanna restate that. No, I was trying to participate in the conversation.

• 1:42:27Speaker 06

  Oh dude, you know what I wish I had picked?

• 1:42:29Sean Fennessey?

  What's that?

• 1:42:30Speaker 06

  Caught stealing?

• 1:42:31Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, Aronofsky. You're back.

• 1:42:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:42:33Speaker 06

  Austin Butler is an ex-baseball player who's in the New York.

• 1:42:36Amanda Dobbins?

  It's like a deep conflict for me, right?

• 1:42:40Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm.

• 1:42:41Speaker 06

  What's up with your boy David Robert Mitchell's new movie?

• 1:42:44Sean Fennessey?

  It was pushed to 2026.

• 1:42:45Speaker 06

  Fuckin' hell.

• 1:42:46Sean Fennessey?

  By Warner Brothers. Flowerville Street, starring Anne Hathaway. I think it's about dinosaurs. I think they saw the Jurassic World rebirth train coming. They said, we gotta get off the tracks.

• 1:42:55Speaker 06

  Are you psyched about Kathryn Bigelow's missile strike movie?

• 1:42:59Sean Fennessey?

  I'm not not striked. I'm not not stoked. I'm a little bit concerned about the timing.

• 1:43:05Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, so here's one thing I'll say to you.

• 1:43:08Sean Fennessey?

  Okay. That was an example of what I'm referring to. Here's one thing I will say to you. You could just say it.

• 1:43:13Amanda Dobbins?

  I actually can't because you guys talk over me all the time.

• 1:43:16Speaker 06

  No, do we?

• 1:43:17Amanda Dobbins?

  So, it's, yeah.

• 1:43:18Sean Fennessey?

  Not the case.

• 1:43:19Amanda Dobbins?

  In my ear.

• 1:43:20Sean Fennessey?

  Be that as it may, Amanda.

• 1:43:21Amanda Dobbins?

  As a working woman, I gotta seize the floor. Do you, the schedule maestro,

• 1:43:31Amanda Dobbins?

  anticipate drafting or auctioning before July 11th?

• 1:43:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Because otherwise it won't be there for you.

• 1:43:38Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, we usually do run it the first week of July. So you're talking about Superman. I've thought about it.

• 1:43:43Amanda Dobbins?

  What if I'm on vacation? What if I strategically?

• 1:43:46Sean Fennessey?

  Sounds like we got a two-man auction coming.

• 1:43:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Vacation?

• 1:43:50Amanda Dobbins?

  Though that's not in the bylaws.

• 1:43:51Speaker 06

  Do you wanna go away on vacation for Superman?

• 1:43:54Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm helping you and also warning you all at once, you know?

• 1:43:58Sean Fennessey?

  This only happened because I suggested that she go on vacation in July so that she doesn't have to talk about Superman on the pod.

• 1:44:04Speaker 06

  Is it that, is that?

• 1:44:05Amanda Dobbins?

  So Superman is July 11th, so it would, yeah.

• 1:44:10Speaker 06

  Like, why are you so upset about Superman?

• 1:44:11Sean Fennessey?

  She thinks she's like Angela Merkel or something where she's just like, I have allowed for all of these things to transpire. Like, we know, man.

• 1:44:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I'm just letting you know, if we auction on July 12th.

• 1:44:23Sean Fennessey?

  Amanda, I'll just put Mallory in your chair. What are you talking about, man?

• 1:44:29Amanda Dobbins?

  See?

• 1:44:30Sean Fennessey?

  You're gonna try to okie dokie on Superman by going on vacation?

• 1:44:32Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm not okie dokie you, I can't take it.

• 1:44:35Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, just take Superman, is that what we're talking about here? No, but I don't want it.

• 1:44:39Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:44:39Sean Fennessey?

  I don't, in this, in this instance, I don't want it.

• 1:44:42Speaker 06

  Hot stealing, no, Delivery from Nowhere probably not coming out this year.

• 1:44:45Sean Fennessey?

  I'll take Eddington.

• 1:44:47Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay.

• 1:44:47Sean Fennessey?

  This is Ari Aster's new movie.

• 1:44:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, that's good.

• 1:44:49Speaker 06

  Is it a western or is it a contemporary road trip movie?

• 1:44:51Sean Fennessey?

  It's a western, I don't know what, when it's set.

• 1:44:54Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:44:55Sean Fennessey?

  I don't know a whole lot about it, there's not a lot about it out there.

• 1:44:57Speaker 06

  Again.

• 1:44:58Sean Fennessey?

  It's got an incredible cast.

• 1:44:59Speaker 06

  I shot Hollywood.

• 1:45:01Speaker 06

  Just, just tell me when the fucking movie is set.

• 1:45:03Sean Fennessey?

  You think it's a disinfo campaign?

• 1:45:04Speaker 06

  I just think they're doing a bad job getting people psyched about stuff.

• 1:45:07Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think that the name The Battle of Bactin Cross will be the name of the movie? Do you think the movie will be called The Battle of Bactin Cross?

• 1:45:14Amanda Dobbins?

  No, I don't.

• 1:45:15Speaker 06

  I don't.

• 1:45:15Sean Fennessey?

  What do you think it'll be called?

• 1:45:16Amanda Dobbins?

  You don't.

• 1:45:16Speaker 06

  It's gonna be called like Shutter Island 2.

• 1:45:23Speaker 06

  What if it is Shutter Island 2?

• 1:45:27Sean Fennessey?

  It's great.

• 1:45:30Sean Fennessey?

  You really brought it today, you both brought it today. Great stuff, guys.

• 1:45:33Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you.

• 1:45:34Sean Fennessey?

  Shall we recap our picks?

• 1:45:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Sure.

• 1:45:35Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, Amanda, why don't you start?

• 1:45:37Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay. Uh, I see that really stayed with you. Uh, I have Miss Regan 2.0.

• 1:45:47Sean Fennessey?

  How much?

• 1:45:47Amanda Dobbins?

  For $30.

• 1:45:49Speaker 06

  Somehow she started speaking Elvish.

• 1:45:54Amanda Dobbins?

  Which, just to clarify, is not a prequel. Cause I got that wrong last time.

• 1:46:00Sean Fennessey?

  Not a prequel, a sequel, yes.

• 1:46:01Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, F1 for $256, The Phoenician Scheme for $200, Marty Supreme for $206, and Opus for $308. It's a good lineup.

• 1:46:10Sean Fennessey?

  Agreed. Chris?

• 1:46:11Speaker 06

  Sinners for $270, Highest to Lowest for $205, Jurassic World: Colon Rebirth for $100, Sentimental Value?

• 1:46:22Speaker 06

  By Joakim Trier for a hundred and ten dollars and Running Man Edgar Wright's Glenn Powell movie for a hundred dollars.

• 1:46:30Sean Fennessey?

  And how much did you leave on the board there?

• 1:46:32Speaker 06

  Two hundred and fifteen dollars. Did I carry that over?

• 1:46:34Sean Fennessey?

  That does not carry over sadly.

• 1:46:35Speaker 06

  I don't care.

• 1:46:36Sean Fennessey?

  Should we start doing that?

• 1:46:37Speaker 06

  I don't think it's an issue of like, oh, I don't have enough.

• 1:46:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but not now. We should have done that. I mean, I guess we could do it now.

• 1:46:43Speaker 06

  Do you know what I would rather do?

• 1:46:44Sean Fennessey?

  Right.

• 1:46:44Speaker 06

  I would rather be able to buy another slot.

• 1:46:48Sean Fennessey?

  Well, what just happened to me could work to my advantage long term.

• 1:46:51Amanda Dobbins?

  Right. And I.

• 1:46:53Sean Fennessey?

  In the future if we did it.

• 1:46:53Amanda Dobbins?

  And it also would have kept us actually drafting.

• 1:46:56Sean Fennessey?

  Yes. So maybe we should do it in twenty twenty six. We'll definitely be doing this show. It's definitely gonna last that long.

• 1:47:01Amanda Dobbins?

  We're learning and growing, you know?

• 1:47:03Sean Fennessey?

  Yes, we're learning a lot. We're growing a lot.

• 1:47:05Speaker 06

  The kids' health is a bit.

• 1:47:06Sean Fennessey?

  I'm growing. Uh.

• 1:47:10Sean Fennessey?

  I, I am growing in my appreciation for the Mission Impossible franchise, which I acquired for three hundred and ninety dollars, the final reckoning, because Amanda gave it to me. Twenty eight years later, I got for three hundred and fifty five dollars. A Big Bold Beautiful Journey, I got for fifty dollars. The Battle of Bacton Cross, I got for one dollar. And Eddington, I got for two hundred and four dollars. I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm quite curious to know how many, maybe we can circle back to this, how many Oscar nominations are in this first slate?

• 1:47:40Speaker 06

  That's a great, yeah.

• 1:47:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:47:41Speaker 06

  Yeah. Do you think that the final twenty eight movie will be called At the End of the Day, Colon Zombies?

• 1:47:51Sean Fennessey?

  Be that as it may, comma zombies, it is what it is. I don't think there are any Oscar nominations in our first slate.

• 1:48:04Amanda Dobbins?

  Challengers, I'm, I might get a couple.

• 1:48:06Sean Fennessey?

  You might.

• 1:48:07Amanda Dobbins?

  I might, and I will probably get one.

• 1:48:08Sean Fennessey?

  I guess Chris will have Dune Part Two.

• 1:48:10Speaker 06

  I'll get Dune, below the line stuff.

• 1:48:11Sean Fennessey?

  Maybe Gladiator Two below the line, yeah. And I'll have Nosferatu below the line, but not, no, not really any above the line stuff.

• 1:48:17Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:48:18Speaker 06

  Well, Dune will probably get nominated for Best Picture, right?

• 1:48:20Sean Fennessey?

  It will. It will for sure. So quickly, before we wrap.

• 1:48:23Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:48:24Sean Fennessey?

  Denis, it looks like he's not gonna make it, right? Like, you're the Denis guy.

• 1:48:27Speaker 06

  I, I am a Denis guy, yeah.

• 1:48:29Sean Fennessey?

  Some might say duh.

• 1:48:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:48:31Sean Fennessey?

  The.

• 1:48:31Speaker 06

  I would say that, that my love of him peaked with Arrival, though. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I've enjoyed this Dune experience.

• 1:48:38Sean Fennessey?

  Peaked with Arrival and not Sicario?

• 1:48:40Speaker 06

  Well, wasn't Sicario previous to Arrival? Like, I'm saying, like, on the, on the, on the train.

• 1:48:46Amanda Dobbins?

  Did it?

• 1:48:46Speaker 06

  Up the mountain.

• 1:48:47Amanda Dobbins?

  What you kept going from. But wouldn't Sicario is your passion?

• 1:48:51Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:48:53Amanda Dobbins?

  And then it stayed at Arrival?

• 1:48:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, like I love Enemy, I love Prisoners, I love Sicario, I love Arrival.

• 1:49:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:49:00Speaker 06

  And then I have appreciated the Dune movies, but I do feel like we've lost like six years of a great filmmaker just making cool shit. But Dune's great. I'm happy for him.

• 1:49:09Amanda Dobbins?

  So it peaked with Sicario, plateaued with Arrival?

• 1:49:13Speaker 06

  I suppose, yeah. I don't really understand Mountains.

• 1:49:16Amanda Dobbins?

  Thank you so much. I don't really either.

• 1:49:21Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm. Okay. So you're like, good, and you don't deserve it, didn't you? That's what you're saying?

• 1:49:24Speaker 06

  No, that's not what I said. That's not what I said.

• 1:49:26Sean Fennessey?

  What are you saying?

• 1:49:28Speaker 06

  I'm saying that we should see if we can change the Academy rules to nominate prisoners for Best Picture this year.

• 1:49:34Sean Fennessey?

  Prisoners, you know, it's got some flaws, Chris. What is it about that story that you connect to?

• 1:49:39Speaker 06

  Uh, Jake Gyllenhaal's character.

• 1:49:41Amanda Dobbins?

  Is that the?

• 1:49:42Speaker 06

  Why shop for baby clothes?

• 1:49:43Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh my god.

• 1:49:46Speaker 06

  What you doing at the mall? Uh.

• 1:49:49Sean Fennessey?

  Detective Loki?

• 1:49:50Speaker 06

  Yeah. I don't think I have an Oscar in my slate here. I guess I'm holding out hope for the Denzel one. Everybody thought he was gonna win for Gladiator and he's not.

• 1:50:01Sean Fennessey?

  Did we pick him to win for Gladiator in our bets?

• 1:50:06Sean Fennessey?

  We didn't, right? Remember we did the bet in September?

• 1:50:08Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, I do. I think that, I think I maybe picked Clarence Macklin. Which would be incredible, but I don't really think that it's gonna happen, unfortunately.

• 1:50:20Sean Fennessey?

  No, Kieran Culkin is gonna happen, for sure.

• 1:50:22Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, that's another thing where I'm like, A Real Pain, like a good movie that's taken up a little too much space. Okay?

• 1:50:30Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 1:50:31Amanda Dobbins?

  That's where I am with it. So that's why I'm reacting.

• 1:50:33Speaker 06

  Everywhere you go, people are saying, ma'am, have you seen A Real Pain?

• 1:50:36Amanda Dobbins?

  I just, also, Kieran Culkin is, is very good in it and has won several Emmys for his work in Succession, which I might posit is indistinguishable from what he's doing in A Real Pain. And I really like him. I hope he keeps working forever. I enjoy his awards acceptance speeches.

• 1:50:54Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:50:55Amanda Dobbins?

  It's not who I would give this Supporting Actor Oscar to this year.

• 1:50:58Speaker 06

  You would give it to?

• 1:51:00Amanda Dobbins?

  Clarence Macklin from Sing Sing.

• 1:51:01Sean Fennessey?

  In the big Oscar bet, Amanda, you did pick Clarence Macklin, and Sean, you picked Guy Pearce.

• 1:51:06Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm.

• 1:51:08Sean Fennessey?

  Sight unseen, I believe.

• 1:51:09Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, but we kinda knew, you know?

• 1:51:11Speaker 06

  Yeah. You both had Kieran Culkin nominated, so.

• 1:51:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:15Sean Fennessey?

  I did love the potential narrative for Guy Pearce, which is playing out in the marketing and press around.

• 1:51:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Right.

• 1:51:21Sean Fennessey?

  A lot of like, I think he's now been profiled in Vanity Fair and the New York Times. A lot of people being like, "You motherfuckers forgot this guy circa L.A. Confidential and Memento was set to be the golden one." And then was not for reasons because I guess some guy at Warner Brothers who didn't, like Guy Pearce didn't allow him to be in Chris Nolan movies. That was one of my, do you read that?

• 1:51:42Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:51:42Sean Fennessey?

  It was a crazy factoid that he shared on the Vanity Fair interview where he was like, "Some guy at Warner Brothers said no to me appearing in future Nolan movies." And so he just didn't show up in any Nolan movies after Memento, which is just an amazing sliding door.

• 1:51:55Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:51:55Sean Fennessey?

  You could think of so many different parts that he could have played. Could have been Batman, could have been any of the villains, could have been in, you know, Inception, could have been in Interstellar. You could have seen him in Dunkirk, you could have seen him in any of those movies.

• 1:52:07Speaker 06

  Yeah. Trying to think of who would be Inception.

• 1:52:10Sean Fennessey?

  Tom Hardy.

• 1:52:11Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh.

• 1:52:12Sean Fennessey?

  He's very similar kind of thing, not as burly obviously, but that kind of charming darling thing. You could see Guy Pearce doing that, right?

• 1:52:19Speaker 06

  We would, we would lose Tom Hardy in Inception though. He could have been Joseph Gordon-Levitt in that movie. He might be a little older, but changed the character a smidge.

• 1:52:26Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah, he might have been a little old at that point. I don't know. Could have been Kenneth Branagh in Dunkirk, you know?

• 1:52:31Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 1:52:32Amanda Dobbins?

  Hmm.

• 1:52:33Sean Fennessey?

  Why not?

• 1:52:34Speaker 06

  Home.

• 1:52:35Sean Fennessey?

  Could have been Kenneth Branagh in Tenet.

• 1:52:37Speaker 06

  That would have been a better movie.

• 1:52:38Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, oh, yeah. I mean, Kenneth Branagh is pretty good in both of them, to be honest.

• 1:52:43Sean Fennessey?

  He's super hammy in Tenet. I mean, it's, it fits the movie.

• 1:52:46Amanda Dobbins?

  It's like, he's on like a yacht being a Russian.

• 1:52:48Speaker 06

  He's Roman Abramovich.

• 1:52:49Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, he's supposed to be.

• 1:52:51Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:52:52Speaker 06

  Who would he be in Interstellar? Damon?

• 1:52:54Sean Fennessey?

  Hmm. No, Interstellar, I haven't seen that in a long time.

• 1:52:59Speaker 06

  He would be, uh...

• 1:53:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, honestly, like, I mean, like, unless you were gonna give him McConaughey, I guess he would be David.

• 1:53:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's really the only choice.

• 1:53:08Sean Fennessey?

  Is there no other male co-lead?

• 1:53:10Speaker 06

  You haven't gotten involved in the Interstellar revival?

• 1:53:13Sean Fennessey?

  No, I watched it during COVID and tried to have as open a heart as possible. And I like it, I just don't love it.

• 1:53:21Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:53:21Sean Fennessey?

  And I know that for many people, it is like the apex of movie making in the 2010s. But it's a movie that just does too much explaining for me. It feels very overwritten. That's just me. I wish nothing but the best for all the Interstellar boys and girls.

• 1:53:37Speaker 06

  Can you imagine if you got to another planet and Sean was there with a podcast setup? It's just you and him bodying, waiting for me to come.

• 1:53:46Sean Fennessey?

  You're suggesting that's not what it feels like for Amanda right now?

• 1:53:48Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:50Sean Fennessey?

  She goes home to the aliens and then she comes here with another alien.

• 1:53:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:53:54Sean Fennessey?

  Well, guys, thank you very much. Thanks for listening to The Big Picture. I hope you're having a wonderful Monday in America.

• 1:54:01Sean Fennessey?

  Thank you to Bobby Wagner, our producer, for his work on this episode. Thanks to Jack Sanders for his work. Later this week, we will be talking about the Academy Award nominations. The Academy just sent me an email that says we are, in fact, holding our event on Thursday, January 23rd, to announce, they actually shared the order in which the Oscar nominations will be announced.

• 1:54:18Amanda Dobbins?

  Wow, who is presenting them?

• 1:54:19Sean Fennessey?

  I didn't read that far in the email. Shall I pull it up again?

• 1:54:21Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah, let's do it.

• 1:54:23Sean Fennessey?

  Okay, please hold. It does not say.

• 1:54:26Amanda Dobbins?

  Okay, great, good job.

• 1:54:28Sean Fennessey?

  I guess they're waiting.

• 1:54:29Amanda Dobbins?

  Or maybe they don't know yet.

• 1:54:30Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think that they should have you and I do it? With live commentary on each award nomination?

• 1:54:35Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:54:36Sean Fennessey?

  Do you think that would do well?

• 1:54:36Speaker 06

  So you can no sell Kieran Culkin's nomination?

• 1:54:40Amanda Dobbins?

  Listen, I wish him the best. I really liked the profile of him in New York Magazine promoting A Real Pain and Emma Stone's, you know? Yeah, a reverse psychology, that's all great. I just, I would give the Oscar elsewhere, that's all.

• 1:54:59Sean Fennessey?

  Chris, where are you going after this?

• 1:55:01Speaker 06

  I have to go pick up some frames, like some paintings that have been framed. It's been a long process. And I was gonna maybe get a turkey sandwich.

• 1:55:09Sean Fennessey?

  Turkey sandwich?

• 1:55:10Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:55:10Amanda Dobbins?

  From?

• 1:55:11Speaker 06

  Cookbook.

• 1:55:12Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, that's a really good turkey sandwich.

• 1:55:13Speaker 06

  Marshmallow.

• 1:55:14Amanda Dobbins?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:14Sean Fennessey?

  Does that mean you'll be having sex in between those two acts?

• 1:55:19Speaker 06

  It's about 20 blocks between the framing store and large mall.

• 1:55:22Sean Fennessey?

  Anything can happen. So Cheeta's in that zone? What about you, Amanda? What are you gonna be doing this afternoon?

• 1:55:27Amanda Dobbins?

  I was gonna go see Hard Truths.

• 1:55:29Sean Fennessey?

  Oh, that's nice. I'm going to see The Brutalist.

• 1:55:31Amanda Dobbins?

  Oh, wow.

• 1:55:31Speaker 06

  How many times is this now?

• 1:55:33Sean Fennessey?

  This will be my third time.

• 1:55:34Speaker 06

  And can I just ask why you're seeing it? Or just because you're like, I have?

• 1:55:38Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm, the next time that we speak, barring another, uh, act of God.

• 1:55:45Sean Fennessey?

  Yeah.

• 1:55:46Amanda Dobbins?

  I will have seen The Brutalist.

• 1:55:49Sean Fennessey?

  The next time we speak to each other? I'm certain that's not true. I'll be texting you in like two hours.

• 1:55:53Amanda Dobbins?

  Well, I was trying to include everyone who's listening this far.

• 1:55:55Sean Fennessey?

  The next time we talk into a microphone in person.

• 1:55:59Amanda Dobbins?

  It'll be the last time that, the next time that we are all here together. And that's the, that's the we that includes this wonderful community that we've built here at The Big Picture.

• 1:56:08Sean Fennessey?

  The royal we.

• 1:56:11Amanda Dobbins?

  I will have seen The Brutalist.

• 1:56:12Sean Fennessey?

  Okay.

• 1:56:13Amanda Dobbins?

  I'm gonna try my best.

• 1:56:14Sean Fennessey?

  What do you think will happen after that happens?

• 1:56:16Amanda Dobbins?

  I don't know. What if I love it? I could.

• 1:56:19Sean Fennessey?

  I would honestly be surprised if you were like, this is bad.

• 1:56:22Amanda Dobbins?

  I, I don't, and I'm not in that, that headspace.

• 1:56:28Sean Fennessey?

  Thank you for listening to The Big Picture. We'll see you soon.

• 1:56:47Sean Fennessey?

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