TAFS Unplugged: Kurt Vile

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  I'm pro-football Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins, and I lived for a long time with something I did not know the name of: major depressive disorder. I carried sadness and anger because I thought I could handle it alone, but I couldn't. Now I want to make sure others know that that support is out there. If you're experiencing similar symptoms, talk to a healthcare professional. Visit MDDAllies.com to watch my story.

• 0:25Speaker 01

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• 0:37Speaker 02

  I needed more from my antidepressant, so my doctor added Caplyta lumateperone, proven to provide greater relief from depression symptoms than an antidepressant alone, building on my progress without starting over. Caplyta is for adults with major depressive disorder when used with an antidepressant and is available by prescription only. Individual results may vary. In clinical trials, weight gain was not common.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  Elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. Caplyta is not approved for dementia-related psychosis. Call your doctor about new or sudden mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts right away. Antidepressants may increase these risks. Report fever, confusion, stiff muscles, which may be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent. High cholesterol and weight gain may occur, as can high blood sugar, which may be fatal. Monitoring is recommended. Common side effects are sleepiness, dizziness, nausea, dry mouth, feeling tired, and diarrhea. These aren't all the side effects.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Ask your doctor about Caplyta. Learn more at caplyta.com or call 888-252-4824.

• 1:30Speaker 00

  I'm pro-football Hall of Famer Brian Dawkins, and I lived for a long time with something I did not know the name of: major depressive disorder. I carried sadness and anger because I thought I could handle it alone, but I couldn't. Now I want to make sure others know that that support is out there. If you're experiencing similar symptoms, talk to a healthcare professional. Visit MDDAllies.com to watch my story.

• 1:55Speaker 01

  Paid partnership with Johnson & Johnson. Brian Dawkins has not prescribed Caplyta lumateperone.

• 2:07Speaker 02

  I needed more from my antidepressant, so my doctor added Caplyta, lumateperone, proven to provide greater relief from depression symptoms than an antidepressant alone, building on my progress without starting over. Caplyta is for adults with major depressive disorder when used with an antidepressant and is available by prescription only. Individual results may vary. In clinical trials, weight gain was not common.

• 2:27Speaker 01

  Elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. Caplyta is not approved for dementia-related psychosis. Call your doctor about new or sudden mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts right away. Antidepressants may increase these risks. Report fever, confusion, stiff muscles, which may be life-threatening, or uncontrolled muscle movements, which may be permanent. High cholesterol and weight gain may occur, as can high blood sugar, which may be fatal. Monitoring is recommended. Common side effects are sleepiness, dizziness, nausea, dry mouth, feeling tired, and diarrhea. These aren't all the side effects.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  Ask your doctor about Caplyta. Learn more at caplyta.com or call 888-252-4824.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  Alright.

• 3:39Speaker 03

  Smoke on my lip, I wrote a song, yeah. Some people said, I was doing that wrong, yeah. But check out my hands, my chiming chords on a gold tone mandolin guitar.

• 4:05Speaker 03

  World's been melting in front of my eyes, yeah. My baby girls, they keep me high, yeah. Ain't on no trips though, no LSD. True love is the pure drug for me, yeah.

• 4:36Speaker 03

  Jump in my whip, my engine winds, yeah. Zigzag my whip, down Lincoln Drive, yeah. Puck on my lip, feel I can fly for a while. Wow, wow, yeah.

• 5:06Speaker 03

  Smoke from my ears, my brain is burning. My candles burnt, I'm never learning. Watch as my life breaks down, yeah, just as a song breaks down.

• 5:43Speaker 03

  Smoke on my lip, I wrote a song, yeah. Some people said I was doing that wrong, yeah. But check out my hand, my chiming chords on a gold tone mandolin guitar. Smoke from my ears, my brain is burning. My candles burnt, I'm never learning. Watch as my life breaks down, yeah, just as a, as a song breaks down. Alright.

• 6:29Speaker 03

  Thanks. Alright.

• 6:51Speaker 03

  Every time I look at you Sparks fly from my eyes I caught that prize, guess I knew what to do

• 7:10Speaker 03

  Seasons come and seasons go But my mind is surely growing Into something more whole or Think I'm getting smarter too

• 7:28Speaker 03

  But you always were

• 7:33Speaker 03

  And you always are

• 7:38Speaker 03

  And I am so proud

• 7:43Speaker 03

  Of what you've become as well Always growing

• 7:52Speaker 03

  Always showing

• 7:57Speaker 03

  A little spark round the world from whence you walk

• 8:05Speaker 03

  Now walk

• 8:24Speaker 03

  I flew close to the sun

• 8:29Speaker 03

  And I had a whole lot of fun

• 8:34Speaker 03

  Then I guess I had to come down Punishment fit in the crime Well, made a few friends out there On the moon, in the clouds

• 8:53Speaker 03

  Had a whole lot of laughs

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Hell, I'm still laughing now, so Look who's laughing now

• 9:07Speaker 03

  But you always were

• 9:11Speaker 03

  And you always are

• 9:16Speaker 03

  And I am so proud

• 9:21Speaker 03

  Of what you've become as well And always growing

• 9:31Speaker 03

  Always shining, showing A little spark round the world from whence you walk

• 9:44Speaker 03

  A little spark

• 9:47Speaker 03

  A little spark round the world from whence you walk

• 9:57Speaker 03

  That's right, walk now

• 10:03Speaker 03

  Yeah

• 10:16Speaker 03

  I'll take it

• 10:24Speaker 03

  Cut

• 10:29Speaker 03

  Yeah

• 10:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, well I drove on up to New York City Deep down, well, life was shitty though

• 11:17Speaker 03

  From Philadelphia, A is where I'm from.

• 11:23Speaker 03

  Guess we come in for a shot of glamour.

• 11:29Speaker 03

  Not that I don't live where I love. In fact, I know that it's better. By the trees, but less people though. And sometimes, well, a man gets lonely and needs a hit of the high life song.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Ladies and gentlemen, Kurt Vile. Give it up for him.

• 13:13Speaker 03

  The new album, Philadelphia's Been Good To Me.

• 13:18Speaker 03

  You can clap again if you want.

• 13:23Adam Friedland?

  How you doing?

• 13:24Speaker 05

  Good.

• 13:24Adam Friedland?

  You just played, it was phenomenal.

• 13:26Speaker 05

  Oh, I'm great. I love... I'm excited to be here. I'm only excited for this, to be honest.

• 13:32Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 13:33Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 13:34Adam Friedland?

  What do you have to do after this?

• 13:35Speaker 05

  Nothing today, but I've been excited to come on the show. I love your set. And I've always thought you were like the good kind of weird, so I'm glad to be here.

• 13:43Adam Friedland?

  Thank you. Yeah, like geek chic, kind of. Yeah, I get that a lot.

• 13:49Adam Friedland?

  So yeah, I guess just first off, tell us about the new album. How do you feel? I listened last night, I enjoyed it quite a bit. When is it out? Is it out?

• 13:56Speaker 05

  It is out, it's out.

• 13:59Adam Friedland?

  No, it's not out.

• 14:00Speaker 05

  May...

• 14:01Adam Friedland?

  29th.

• 14:02Speaker 05

  29th, May 29th.

• 14:03Adam Friedland?

  May 29th? And is there any symbology behind that number? Numerology?

• 14:08Speaker 05

  No.

• 14:09Adam Friedland?

  You got the 2, you got the 9, then you get 11, then you get May, that's 5, then you get 16?

• 14:14Speaker 05

  No.

• 14:15Adam Friedland?

  Oh, no, okay.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  I just...

• 14:17Adam Friedland?

  Cut all that.

• 14:20Adam Friedland?

  So I listened to the album last night, it's like, it's got a lot of Neil, I feel like. Is that safe to say?

• 14:26Speaker 05

  Neil, Neil, I've always got... There's always Neil.

• 14:29Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, there's always.

• 14:30Speaker 05

  Are you a Neil guy?

• 14:31Adam Friedland?

  I'm Neil, yeah.

• 14:32Speaker 05

  Did you see him live?

• 14:33Adam Friedland?

  I saw him with Crazy Horse.

• 14:34Speaker 05

  Oh, this time? Oh, that was incredible.

• 14:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 05

  I saw him in Philly. Like, the day I got home from a tour, I saw him in Philly with Crazy Horse.

• 14:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 14:45Speaker 05

  This last time with Crazy Horse, and then I was so addicted, I was just scheming and scheming, and I was like, I gotta see it again. So then I drove up to Massachusetts to see it again. It took some convincing, because I'm a family man.

• 15:02Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 15:03Speaker 05

  I got two daughters and a wife and such.

• 15:05Adam Friedland?

  So you lied to them?

• 15:06Speaker 05

  No, I told them what I wanted to do, which was, I gotta go up...

• 15:10Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 15:10Speaker 05

  I want to go up to Massachusetts where my tour manager is, so he can get me these record shelves, so I can clean up my house, so I can see Neil Young and Crazy Horse.

• 15:19Adam Friedland?

  Okay, fine, yeah, yeah.

• 15:20Speaker 05

  And that's what I did, and then a couple shows later...

• 15:22Adam Friedland?

  And your wife is like, you've been rocking on the road, and you're so addicted to rock, you have to go rock more up in Massachusetts?

• 15:28Speaker 05

  And I'm so glad I did, because Neil cancelled...

• 15:33Speaker 05

  They cut that tour off like a couple of shows later. So I saw that Crazy Horse twice.

• 15:37Adam Friedland?

  Have you met the man?

• 15:39Speaker 05

  I met the man a few times, but only this last time. The last time I saw Neil was in Toronto.

• 15:45Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 15:46Speaker 05

  My buddy Travis from the Sadis, he's an incredible guitar player. In fact, I was playing his guitar earlier when I was shredding. And he's buddies with Neil. And Travis is the first person ever, even though one time I opened for Neil and they thought I was a crazy fan, they almost tackled me.

• 16:04Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 16:05Speaker 05

  But even though I opened the show.

• 16:06Adam Friedland?

  You were wearing Neil Young t-shirt, Neil Young hat.

• 16:08Speaker 05

  I jumped, I jumped off the back of the stage to like give him actually a Sadis CT. I thought that was my in, it was like, you know, and this whole entourage of cool old guys. We're like, ahhhh, and they like held up their arm, they're gonna check me like a hockey player.

• 16:23Adam Friedland?

  You got beat up by old guys?

• 16:24Speaker 05

  Almost.

• 16:25Adam Friedland?

  And it was Levon Helm, it was like.

• 16:27Speaker 05

  Elliot Roberts, his OG manager, almost tackled me. So yeah, anyway.

• 16:34Adam Friedland?

  Elliot Roger?

• 16:35Speaker 05

  Elliot Roberts was his.

• 16:38Adam Friedland?

  Nevermind.

• 16:38Speaker 05

  His manager, he managed, I think he started his career managing Johnny Mitchell.

• 16:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I was gonna guess, that was a guess.

• 16:46Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 16:47Adam Friedland?

  If I said it quicker, that would have been a good guess, yeah.

• 16:50Speaker 05

  But anyway, yeah, Travis was like, he's the first person to be like, Neil, this is Kurt.

• 16:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 16:54Speaker 05

  He's played with you before. Everybody else is just like, don't give this guy, don't give this guy any in with Neil.

• 17:01Adam Friedland?

  Why? What's so wrong with you? You're a nice guy. He's a, you're in the business, you should be.

• 17:06Speaker 05

  I know.

• 17:07Adam Friedland?

  This is a good connection. My mom told me when I moved to New York, she's like, just, why don't you find Jerry Seinfeld's address and you could knock on his door and say, I'm a young comedian, I'm Jewish comedian and, I'm like, Mom, what are you talking about?

• 17:21Speaker 05

  I love that.

• 17:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, so I went to Epstein's mansion. I'm just.

• 17:26Speaker 05

  That reminds, when you said that, it reminded me of, I wish we had that pedal.

• 17:31Adam Friedland?

  Seinfeld pedal?

• 17:32Speaker 05

  Yeah, like Sarah Sherman's Seinfeld pedal. Where she's like

• 17:37Adam Friedland?

  Have you ever watched the video of the guy making it? It's also, it's a, it's synthesizer, it's not bass.

• 17:42Speaker 05

  Yeah, I would

• 17:44Adam Friedland?

  You, did you know that?

• 17:45Speaker 05

  I'm, I'm just not surprised. That era, that early 90s.

• 17:50Adam Friedland?

  I thought a ba- a bass guitar.

• 17:52Speaker 05

  It's a bass.

• 17:52Adam Friedland?

  Slap style bass.

• 17:54Speaker 05

  That's true, it's sound, it's a

• 17:55Adam Friedland?

  It sounds like a slap style bass.

• 17:56Speaker 05

  That is actually

• 17:57Adam Friedland?

  Lie to.

• 17:58Speaker 05

  That's good informa-

• 17:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 17:59Speaker 05

  Good information to know for sure.

• 18:00Adam Friedland?

  But he, there's a video of him on YouTube doing it live to the show.

• 18:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and it's like, he did it every episode, I had like no idea.

• 18:10Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. What is that?

• 18:13Speaker 05

  It's like, in the background, I was like

• 18:19Speaker 05

  Wow, the horns.

• 18:20Adam Friedland?

  You've, you've noticed that?

• 18:22Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:23Adam Friedland?

  That's the, that's a real professional right there.

• 18:28Adam Friedland?

  It's like when you've noticed the fucking, uh, the, the uncomfortably numb, the, the symphonic part.

• 18:34Speaker 05

  It's like Incomprably numb?

• 18:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, well, I, I felt like I was, I had heard it a million times, and then you noticed that little symphonic, uh, uh, track, and, uh, you're like, now I'm extra smart at music.

• 18:45Speaker 05

  How's that part go?

• 18:47Adam Friedland?

  Uh

• 18:52Adam Friedland?

  And it's like

• 18:54Adam Friedland?

  You wanna hear it, isolated?

• 18:56Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 18:56Adam Friedland?

  It's so beautiful. Rick Beato does a video about it, and me and my friend, my girlfriend, and his girlfriend were both out of town, and instead of partying, we, uh, just went and watched Rick Beato videos, and we're, we're like high-fiving each other to the Beato, why this song is great, uh, uncomfortably numb. And then my girlfriend called me, and she's like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm watching a, a YouTube video about Pink Floyd. She's like, I'd ra- that's, she's like, that's pathetic. I'd rather, I'd rather you be cheating on me right now, yeah.

• 19:26Speaker 05

  I'd rather

• 19:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, Pink Floyd.

• 19:31Adam Friedland?

  Uh, wait, keep, uh, okay, so now I'm gonna find. So this is in the background the whole time, we, how do you

• 19:39Adam Friedland?

  Let's just talk about Pink.

• 19:42Adam Friedland?

  Oh, no, this is, this is not it.

• 19:46Speaker 05

  It's not it?

• 19:47Adam Friedland?

  Uh, orchestra track, here it is.

• 19:51Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, so you get all those, I don't know what instrument that is to make the seagull noise, but that's, I'm assuming that's the orchestra. Oh yeah, so like as the, as it goes.

• 20:04Adam Friedland?

  So it's like all those like dark.

• 20:05Speaker 05

  Hello, hello. He's already in.

• 20:11Speaker 05

  Oh yeah, sure.

• 20:17Speaker 05

  Oh right, of course.

• 20:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, great band, check them out, uh, Pink Floyd. Uh, especially the song Comfortably Numb.

• 20:24Speaker 05

  They used that moment.

• 20:25Adam Friedland?

  Scorsese probably used it.

• 20:26Speaker 05

  Exactly, I was literally gonna say, in Departed.

• 20:28Adam Friedland?

  Fuck me like a cop. Fuck me like a cop, that's a great sex, uh, one of my favorites.

• 20:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, uh, yeah, they have sex in the kitchen, yeah.

• 20:37Speaker 05

  In the Departed?

• 20:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, Leo and his therapist. And she's like, fuck me like a cop.

• 20:44Speaker 05

  Did she say that?

• 20:45Adam Friedland?

  Cause yeah.

• 20:45Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 20:46Adam Friedland?

  Which is like, hey, if I, I just sit in therapy all the time, just be like, why can't, uh, nevermind. Anyway, so let's, let's get into it, so you, you saw Neil? Uh, wait, tell us about meeting, what did he say to you? Hey, man.

• 21:01Speaker 05

  He did sort of like that.

• 21:02Adam Friedland?

  Real cool, man.

• 21:04Speaker 05

  You know, he never, uh, really. All right, the one, the most memorable time is like, I told him, I was like, I've seen you a million times and,

• 21:16Speaker 05

  this was the best by far when you played Down By The River, which was like a 30 minute version, I was like, you know, he would like be messing with the crowd, he would be like,

• 21:28Speaker 05

  you'd think he was, he'd be jamming out the middle section forever, the coolest space jams ever, and then you'd think he was gonna go and sing the last verse, and then he would come up to the mic finally and be like, be on my side, and then go back to outer space again, just the first. So anyway, I told him, I was like, this Down By The River was the best I've seen you do, I was like, it was like you're underground, as in if it was like organic, but in outer space at, you're in underground and outer space at the same time, and then he just looked at me, he's like, oh yeah, we can go to outer space whenever we want.

• 22:06Speaker 05

  And then he said it again, "We can go out of space whenever we want."

• 22:12Adam Friedland?

  During COVID, do you remember when he became an American citizen so he could vote for Bernie? Do you remember that?

• 22:18Speaker 05

  Oh, that's pretty awesome.

• 22:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and then he did that like COVID concert where he's like, "Hey Bernie."

• 22:23Speaker 05

  I remember that.

• 22:24Adam Friedland?

  I started crying.

• 22:27Adam Friedland?

  Both my ghosts recognizing each other? I can't believe it. Are you Neil? Is Neil your number one guy?

• 22:33Speaker 05

  Neil, I love Bernie too, but Bernie, I would say number one. But Neil, no, I love Bernie, but Neil, I like Neil better than Bernie.

• 22:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the hell has Bernie ever done?

• 22:45Speaker 05

  I love Neil.

• 22:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. So wait, so did you record after those, like, when, how long have you been working on this album? And like, what went into it?

• 22:54Speaker 05

  Okay. I've been working on this album.

• 22:59Speaker 05

  I'd say, okay, I put out my last full-length album, it's called Watch My Moves, in 2022 on Verve Records. And this is my second full-length on Verve Records. New York Verve Records. I'm proud to be labelmates with The Velvet Underground and Stan Getz.

• 23:17Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 23:17Speaker 05

  And that's it, us three. But, um, anyway, honestly, I'd say ever since I turned that record in, it came out in 2022,

• 23:28Speaker 05

  when I'd get off the road, I'd be working on this record. But hardcore in the studio the last couple of years.

• 23:33Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 23:34Speaker 05

  But yeah, it's, it's half-recorded in my basement, just like the previous album.

• 23:40Speaker 05

  And then also some in LA with my buddy Rob Schnapp, who did a lot of my stuff. And Doug Easley, this, uh, really some of my favorite records in the 90s, like Silver Jews, Starlight Walker and

• 23:53Adam Friedland?

  Best.

• 23:54Speaker 05

  Pavement, Wally's Owie. Sonic Youth, Washing Machine, we're all done

• 23:59Speaker 05

  at Doug Easley's studio in Memphis. So I worked there. This is Doug Easley.

• 24:06Speaker 05

  No, that's me. That's Doug Easley. That's Rob Schnapp in LA, that's me.

• 24:12Speaker 05

  And then, yeah, my drummer Kyle records some in Athens, but that's how we do it. We just, we go on the road, come back and

• 24:18Adam Friedland?

  You get ideas.

• 24:19Speaker 05

  Hit the studio.

• 24:20Adam Friedland?

  How collaborative is it? Like, it's

• 24:22Speaker 05

  Well, it's collaborative in that

• 24:28Speaker 05

  People show up.

• 24:29Adam Friedland?

  People play all their instruments.

• 24:31Speaker 05

  How they can play their parts.

• 24:33Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 24:33Speaker 05

  And figure it out as they go. I'll tell them if I don't like it, but I wrote the song. I don't care how much anybody else puts into it. I'm the songwriter.

• 24:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, that's fucking right. That's fucking right. And don't forget it, you fucking...

• 24:46Speaker 05

  I mean, everybody, I mean, anybody, everyone makes their own rules, but I was smart enough to make that rule a long time ago.

• 24:52Adam Friedland?

  Have you ever had a Bez in your band?

• 24:54Speaker 05

  What?

• 24:54Adam Friedland?

  A Bez, like from Happy.

• 24:56Speaker 05

  Oh, I love the Bez.

• 24:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Just a guy that does tambourine and just is fun.

• 25:01Speaker 05

  Did you read his book?

• 25:01Adam Friedland?

  Maracas, yeah. He wrote a book? How could he write a book?

• 25:05Speaker 05

  It's called Freaky Dancing?

• 25:06Adam Friedland?

  He knows how to write the...

• 25:08Speaker 05

  Is it Freaky Dancing?

• 25:08Adam Friedland?

  At all?

• 25:09Speaker 05

  Or Funky Dancing?

• 25:09Adam Friedland?

  Funky Dancing, yeah.

• 25:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, he actually, um...

• 25:13Adam Friedland?

  He's Maracas, right?

• 25:14Speaker 05

  The one video I have out, yeah, he dances and he's their drug dealer and chemist.

• 25:19Adam Friedland?

  He sells them drugs and he dances with Maracas, yeah.

• 25:22Speaker 05

  The video for Step On is priceless. He steals the show, Bez.

• 25:26Adam Friedland?

  He's the best, yeah.

• 25:28Speaker 05

  But, um, the one video that came out for this album called Chance to Bleed, that's the first single. There's a, there's a, there's a person in the video that's influenced by Bez, actually. It's my buddy.

• 25:43Adam Friedland?

  How'd I pull that out of my ass?

• 25:44Speaker 05

  Ethan Buckler from King Kong, the band King Kong. His first band was Slint and he left Slint because he thought, uh, the production was really weird on the first record. So he started his own band. But anyway, he's, he's the Bez in, in that Chance to Bleed video, which is a really good video.

• 26:02Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 26:03Speaker 05

  I should say.

• 26:04Adam Friedland?

  I wonder if Bez got paid like the other guys. It would have been annoying, actually, if I was like a synth player or a drummer. Like, I'm like, it's easy, right?

• 26:14Speaker 05

  Yeah. Well, wait, you do play though, right? What do you play?

• 26:18Adam Friedland?

  It's horror.

• 26:18Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 26:21Adam Friedland?

  Shut up dude.

• 26:21Speaker 05

  No, I...

• 26:22Adam Friedland?

  Not well.

• 26:24Speaker 05

  Yeah, but you're...

• 26:24Adam Friedland?

  I just like making, I like songs.

• 26:25Speaker 05

  We talked about music on the phone.

• 26:27Adam Friedland?

  I know dude, I know.

• 26:28Speaker 05

  And the first thing I ever...

• 26:29Adam Friedland?

  I'll send you a demo if you want.

• 26:31Speaker 05

  I wanna see, the first, "Hello, my name is Adam Friedland, here's my demo CD."

• 26:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I was planning on the networking period after this thing, dude. I wanted to play it, say, play it cool. No, no, yeah, I do. Yeah, I play a little bit of whatever, yeah.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  That's cool, I'm excited to hear your music.

• 26:46Adam Friedland?

  So you have a song called "Hoagie," a song called "Wah Wah." Do you think that, do you think that George Harrison was writing about Wah Wah, the gas, the...

• 26:57Speaker 05

  Man. That's fucking mind blowing.

• 27:00Adam Friedland?

  Have you ever watched it? Have you ever, have you ever listened to Beware of Abaco? The demos from All Things Must Pass?

• 27:09Speaker 05

  Beware of Abaco?

• 27:10Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it's like a, it's like a bootleg, but it's, uh, it's all the demos of George and Phil Spector, who I need to find out more about. I, I just, I can't wait to find out more about this guy Phil Spector. I just found out about...

• 27:25Speaker 05

  That reminds me of, did you see the Get Back documentary?

• 27:29Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it's, it changed my life.

• 27:31Speaker 05

  Heartbreaking, but also funny. Like, George literally playing the most beautiful songs, like, out of his pocket. He's like, "Everyone has choice. When to and not to raise a voice is..."

• 27:45Adam Friedland?

  It's you that decides.

• 27:48Speaker 05

  And, um...

• 27:48Adam Friedland?

  They're so mean to him. Paul and John aren't even listening. They're not even listening.

• 27:54Speaker 05

  And then he's like, and then George literally says, he goes,

• 27:57Adam Friedland?

  "I don't care if you use it. I'll just put it in me musical."

• 28:04Adam Friedland?

  "I'll put it in me musical." It's like, uh, it's, it's so crazy, because first of all, you forget how young they were. They were like 27 or something.

• 28:13Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 28:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and then he's still the younger kid from school. He's still like, "Dude, you're a freshman, shut up dude. Shut up freshman. We're gonna fucking give you a swirly and pants you." And he's like, "Yes, or no, that was wrong. Okay, let me run that again." And he was like, "Um, here comes the sun, I don't know. Okay, cut all that, okay."

• 28:34Adam Friedland?

  Did you ever saw, Paul McCartney says yesterday came to him in a dream.

• 28:38Speaker 05

  Right.

• 28:38Adam Friedland?

  Did you ever have a song come to you in a dream?

• 28:40Speaker 05

  I did, especially around the pandemic times. I definitely had really pretty ethereal songs in my head and then I'd wake up and sing them into a recorder.

• 28:53Speaker 05

  But yeah, I never actually recorded them on the side into my recorder either.

• 28:57Adam Friedland?

  I wonder if Enter Sandman came to them in a dream. That'd be cool.

• 29:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:03Adam Friedland?

  I was talking about it before, how Metallica is just baby. How about, uh, spooky scary dreams.

• 29:13Adam Friedland?

  Did you like?

• 29:13Speaker 05

  Goblins and ghouls. Did you like that documentary?

• 29:17Adam Friedland?

  Uh, Some Kind of Monster?

• 29:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, so good. You do look a little Dave Mustaine a little bit.

• 29:22Speaker 05

  That's what people say.

• 29:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. The therapy scene with Dave Mustaine where he's like, you hurt me? And they're like all crying. It's amazing, yeah.

• 29:30Speaker 05

  Actually, I got my manager, Rennie, who's one of my best bros, but I gotta say, I think it was sometime we were on the road, kinda high or whatever, and I was like, Rennie, wasn't Some Kind of Monster the worst documentary you've ever seen in your life? And he like pauses, like, no, he's like, those guys couldn't even talk to each other. And then they made this movie that got them back together and they like crushed once again. And I was like, good point. And then, but what I remember, I do remember when I first saw it, that was so long, and it was cringey, but it was, the thing is, it's the first of cringey. It's the first of the cringey, like, like, you have the audacity to get this,

• 30:14Speaker 05

  therapist and like look this, like this sad in front of people?

• 30:20Adam Friedland?

  Off to Never Neverland songs. You're like, we need a therapist. This is too much pressure.

• 30:25Speaker 05

  But, but then it's like, I don't know, then it's.

• 30:29Adam Friedland?

  It's so funny. It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen in my life.

• 30:32Speaker 05

  That's what I mean, it aged really well.

• 30:33Adam Friedland?

  It ages great.

• 30:34Speaker 05

  It aged well.

• 30:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, if you, if you smoke a little, ooh. I actually, I can't smoke weed anymore, we were talking about it.

• 30:41Speaker 05

  You can't?

• 30:42Adam Friedland?

  So, I heard that you're, this is a list I have of your, of your influences going into this album, okay?

• 30:49Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 30:50Adam Friedland?

  Neil, John Prine, Terry Allen, Doom, DJ Screw, and The Avalanches.

• 30:56Speaker 05

  Wow, yeah.

• 30:57Adam Friedland?

  Does that, does that sound like bullshit, or is that correct?

• 30:59Speaker 05

  No, that's true, that's definitely, they're all really good ones. Do you like The Avalanches?

• 31:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:04Speaker 05

  You know them? Oh my god. (singing) Since I left you, I'm just a vampire. It's really pretty.

• 31:10Adam Friedland?

  Do they have, they, they had a, they released another album, didn't they?

• 31:14Speaker 05

  They...

• 31:15Adam Friedland?

  There was just one, right? I thought.

• 31:17Speaker 05

  There was just one?

• 31:17Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:18Speaker 05

  And then it took them like thirteen years or something to put out a follow-up?

• 31:21Adam Friedland?

  They're like Stanley Kubrick, yeah.

• 31:23Speaker 05

  Yeah. And then like people, cool guests like David Berman came out of hiding from Silver Juice to do like a spoken word thing on...

• 31:32Adam Friedland?

  Did you know him?

• 31:32Speaker 05

  I, I did, I mean, I grew up influenced, like one of my number one...

• 31:37Adam Friedland?

  He's one of my number ones too. I, I was at, in DC, I was at their last concert at the Black Cat ever.

• 31:43Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 31:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, his grandma came out on stage.

• 31:45Speaker 05

  That's so awesome.

• 31:46Adam Friedland?

  I mean, the last album is, The Purple Mountains is just devastating.

• 31:50Speaker 05

  Devastating.

• 31:51Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:52Speaker 05

  And, uh, yeah, you know, that, he, he cut through, like his lyrics and I guess his vocal timbre and like the production, everything that he stood for. He was like the effortless Bob Dylan or whatever of our generation.

• 32:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 05

  And, uh...

• 32:09Adam Friedland?

  I would say you're more, more, I would say it's you now.

• 32:15Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, David, I've, I, I, like, we were pen pals a little bit, like, because I heard he was a fan of my song. Somebody told me he was a fan of my song, "Society's My Friend", and then I wrote him, and sure enough...

• 32:27Adam Friedland?

  Like an email though, right?

• 32:28Speaker 05

  I, I emailed him.

• 32:29Adam Friedland?

  And then he, he penned you?

• 32:31Speaker 05

  No, we emailed.

• 32:32Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you weren't actually, you didn't spray perfume and kisses, right?

• 32:36Speaker 05

  Not, not...

• 32:36Adam Friedland?

  That'd be cool if you were doing letters.

• 32:39Speaker 05

  But, yeah, I don't know, then my family, uh...

• 32:44Adam Friedland?

  I was with my wife and two daughters when they were younger and we, at the end of a tour, we drove through Tennessee. And I visited David and he was really sweet and his, and his wife at the time, Cassie. And he, he was really sweet and yeah, I was so stoked for him with that record when it came out and I was gonna plan to see him for sure. Yeah, it's kind of like he's, the lyrics are like, it's like we- Of that last one? He's like telling us, "Well, I wish I should, I should have done, I don't even know him, but I wish I did, I should have done something." I've got so sad. That is sad. Imagine that, album coming out while you're going through a breakup.

• 33:28Adam Friedland?

  Well, I certainly couldn't.

• 33:34Adam Friedland?

  I will say, that's the, I don't, I can't listen to that record. I listen to Silver Jews a lot, but I, I haven't listened to that one since he passed. Yeah. "In 27 years, I drank 50,000 beers." How much, so us? Scotch and penicillin. I'm allergic to penicillin. Yeah, are you? Yeah. Why didn't you say that earlier?

• 33:54Adam Friedland?

  Dude, fucking, you should say, dude, it's a little bit weird that you didn't say that. Yeah, like, like are you supposed to list your allergies when you come in? Well, I just, yeah, you filled out the medical form before doing TAFS's Unplugged. I have no idea why you wouldn't say that you were allergic to penicillin because we put it in your drink.

• 34:15Adam Friedland?

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• 34:21Adam Friedland?

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• 35:04Adam Friedland?

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• 35:47Adam Friedland?

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• 36:31Adam Friedland?

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• 36:53Adam Friedland?

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• 39:01Adam Friedland?

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• 41:08Adam Friedland?

  Kind of when it was like a lot, the indie kind of moment, the early, the late aughts, early mid teens, tens? What do people call that decade? The twenty teens?

• 41:21Speaker 05

  When I was making music, you mean?

• 41:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and then you were kind of part of that moment. And then it seems like now, like, um, you're like, do you feel like you're a survivor of that moment? You're still around. Like, there, I imagine there were a ton of bands that just aren't around anymore.

• 41:36Speaker 05

  I guess, yeah, that's interesting.

• 41:40Speaker 05

  Yeah, I, I feel, I'm glad that I'm still doing it. I got no, no choice, it's what I'm gonna do, but I do see these younger kids sometimes, and I'm like, man, I paved the way for these fucking kids.

• 41:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 05

  Makes me mad.

• 41:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 05

  But, nah, not really. But, yeah, I'm, uh, but then we were just talking about Neil Young.

• 42:00Adam Friedland?

  They like, they like, like guitars again.

• 42:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's, that's what they're saying.

• 42:05Adam Friedland?

  I thought it was gonna be this EDM crap forever.

• 42:08Speaker 05

  I know, even I was influenced, like, there was a hot minute for a few years there where, like, I wasn't hearing no guitars in my head either, because there was all this Charlie XCX and Caroline Polachek shit going.

• 42:22Adam Friedland?

  I'm just kidding, no, I'm just kidding. No, I liked them a lot, I liked them a lot.

• 42:25Speaker 05

  I love it.

• 42:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. You're a big Charli fan.

• 42:28Speaker 05

  I do love.

• 42:29Adam Friedland?

  She's one of your goats?

• 42:31Speaker 05

  Oh, absolutely.

• 42:32Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 42:32Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 42:33Adam Friedland?

  Who, wait, who are your goats? That's a Mark Marisol question, who are your guys, man?

• 42:38Speaker 05

  Who are your?

• 42:39Adam Friedland?

  Who are your guys, man?

• 42:42Speaker 05

  He was mad at me, by the way. Why is he mad at you?

• 42:44Adam Friedland?

  He was, but Tom Sharpling squashed the beef.

• 42:47Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 42:48Adam Friedland?

  Cause on my old podcast, I think we were making fun of him laying down a solo on Instagram. Like, look at this guy, and I was like, I was, I was a child. We hated everything. I love you.

• 43:02Speaker 05

  Aw.

• 43:03Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, Tom Sharpling, I was like, give me his phone number, I was like, I will make this right. I was like, I love you, sir.

• 43:09Speaker 05

  Tom is the best, Tom is.

• 43:10Adam Friedland?

  He's the best.

• 43:11Speaker 05

  Tom Sharpling is the goat.

• 43:13Adam Friedland?

  He's the goat.

• 43:13Speaker 05

  In fact.

• 43:14Adam Friedland?

  One of our goats.

• 43:15Speaker 05

  That's funny, cause I was at Tom's wedding not that long ago. And Tom Sharpton got married. And, and-

• 43:22Adam Friedland?

  One of my favorite things is to start an applause. I used to do it at school assemblies and stuff. Yeah.

• 43:27Speaker 05

  And, uh, Mark Maron was there and I was with a friend who never met Mark Maron. I was on his show once.

• 43:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 43:34Speaker 05

  But I hadn't seen him in a long time. And he's like, "Oh my God, there's Mark Maron, there's Mark Maron." I was like, "Oh yeah, it's true." And then he walked up to me in a suit and the first thing he said was, he's, "What's up, genius?"

• 43:43Adam Friedland?

  Oh!

• 43:45Speaker 05

  So that made me look cool in front of my friends.

• 43:48Adam Friedland?

  Well, everything's good, Mark Maron. I've invited you about seventy-three times on the show. And now I'm officially announcing, even though you have not agreed, that Mark Maron will be on the Adam Reel list.

• 44:01Adam Friedland?

  Uh, no, I love him, dude. When I first, before I even started standing up, I was listening to his podcast.

• 44:06Speaker 05

  Wait, he was mad at you because you teased his jam?

• 44:09Adam Friedland?

  Cause he saw, he heard a clip about us teasing his jam. And guess what? I wish I, I, I wish I, I, yeah.

• 44:17Speaker 05

  You wish you didn't do it?

• 44:18Adam Friedland?

  I'm too shy to play, to play my music.

• 44:21Speaker 05

  I love that. Honestly, that's why-

• 44:23Adam Friedland?

  I love music more than this, whatever the fuck this is.

• 44:25Speaker 05

  That made me like you.

• 44:26Adam Friedland?

  It was why I could do it.

• 44:28Speaker 05

  That made me like you, cause the first one I saw was your Julian Casablanca's.

• 44:31Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah.

• 44:32Speaker 05

  And then you fed him this song. You fed him your, well, your, your song you made him listen to.

• 44:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I made him listen to a demo. Yeah, and he was like, "That's intense, man." I'm like, "You could've said the best song ever." I don't know why you're saying it.

• 44:44Speaker 05

  That's intense.

• 44:44Adam Friedland?

  Cause everyone else has said the best song ever and probably the, you're, you're a genius musician. You don't need, you don't need to be doing this demeaning yourself, Adam, on YouTube. You could be fucking...

• 44:59Adam Friedland?

  I don't know. But, uh...

• 45:04Adam Friedland?

  Paul McCartney. Yeah. Have you ever met Paul McCartney?

• 45:07Speaker 05

  No.

• 45:08Adam Friedland?

  Have you ever met John Lennon? No, I don't know.

• 45:11Speaker 05

  Oh, I wish.

• 45:12Adam Friedland?

  Who, like, who are, you're like, uh, I guess like heroes. Like, they, they say never meet your heroes, obviously.

• 45:19Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 45:20Adam Friedland?

  What, what interactions have you had that, like, uh, through music that you're like, "Whoa"? But beyond Neil?

• 45:26Speaker 05

  Beyond Neil? I, like, because I saw, I, I signed to Matador Records in 2009. I was on that, that, that label till like 2020 or something.

• 45:38Adam Friedland?

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:39Speaker 05

  So a lot, a lot by nepotism. I got to meet the bands that I grew up on. But even so, like, early on, uh- My first Matador album called Childish Prodigy came out and like

• 45:54Speaker 05

  like it didn't like on the pitch fork or whatever, not that this matters, but they like they didn't get it, but like all my heroes, it was their favorite record that year. Jay Mascis from Don't Stop Me Junior invited me on tour. Kim Gordon from Sonic Youth was her favorite album. And even people like, I don't know, Bradford Cox, Deer Hunter, it was his favorite album. But anyway, yeah, people like that. Steve Malcomas for sure from Pavement or Kim Gordon and Jay Mascis. There's, that's like the big three who are friends of mine, you know? But I grew up dreaming of something like that. I'm trying to think of, uh,

• 46:31Adam Friedland?

  You know that

• 46:32Speaker 05

  I'm a fanboy, like every, I

• 46:34Adam Friedland?

  Do you get nervous?

• 46:35Speaker 05

  I get nervous. I'm a fanboy no matter what and like that's, that's how I always feel. I always feel nervous to talk to somebody that's my hero. I have so many heroes.

• 46:45Adam Friedland?

  In that Neil story, I'm like, this guy was shitting his pants and Neil was like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, I hope that we can

• 46:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, thanks.

• 46:53Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's scary. I still meet those guys.

• 46:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 46:59Adam Friedland?

  I'm nervous. I have a brunch I'm going to and I heard that David Letterman might be on it.

• 47:03Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 47:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 47:05Speaker 05

  What are you gonna say to him?

• 47:07Adam Friedland?

  Anti Semite?

• 47:10Speaker 05

  Is he?

• 47:12Adam Friedland?

  I don't know. That's what came out. What did you? See, I'm gonna fuck up. That's the first thing that came out.

• 47:19Adam Friedland?

  What's wrong with, why are you such an anti Semite?

• 47:24Adam Friedland?

  So I guess like, uh, do you feel like an elder statesman these days?

• 47:28Speaker 05

  Uh, no, not really.

• 47:32Adam Friedland?

  No?

• 47:32Speaker 05

  I, I'm, I'm glad.

• 47:35Adam Friedland?

  Cause you look great.

• 47:36Speaker 05

  Really?

• 47:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, you look like you're a youthful statesman.

• 47:41Speaker 05

  You, you look, you look better, but

• 47:46Adam Friedland?

  Thank you.

• 47:47Speaker 05

  But

• 47:49Speaker 05

  Thank you. Uh, no, I honestly, I do look at myself.

• 47:54Adam Friedland?

  We are both like a looking young kinda guys.

• 47:57Speaker 05

  You still look alright.

• 47:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, we still do.

• 48:00Speaker 05

  You don't look as good as you used to per se.

• 48:02Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, fine, how are you going to, yeah.

• 48:05Speaker 05

  But.

• 48:06Adam Friedland?

  We have our hair too.

• 48:07Speaker 05

  But I like, the modern times, yeah, that's true.

• 48:10Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 48:11Speaker 05

  The modern times, I like playing music. I like, I like playing to the crowds. I like,

• 48:16Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 48:17Speaker 05

  in a different way, uh, ten or more plus years ago, I was a, uh, train wreck on stage, like elusive to technology.

• 48:25Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 48:26Speaker 05

  So I feel like this is sort of my Neil Young moment. I know we keep talking about Neil, but like if you see him live now with Crazy Horse, it's just like then. It's in another way, it's like more intense.

• 48:36Adam Friedland?

  There's something about it where he's still going hard.

• 48:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm excited about live music.

• 48:41Adam Friedland?

  Bob Dylan is still touring and he's, I don't know if you've seen him recently, but he's locked in.

• 48:46Speaker 05

  He's locked in.

• 48:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. It's, it's, it's really actually like, I wonder, it's like why, you know, I guess like why those guys are doing it, cause they're fucking old. They gotta be. No offense, I mean, they're friends, but they're old as fuck, you know, like, they're nasty looking, but it makes me sick how, no, no, but, uh, but no, in reality, it's like, these guys are like, you know, fucking, Bob's over eighty, I think.

• 49:12Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:12Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, like, um, and I think, thinking about like your interaction with Neil is like, I think that that's like a place, like their whole, like Bob Dylan's whole life, like, everyone's trying to, has walked up to him and tried to say the dopest thing they've ever said, and then just walked away and they're like, fucking loser, fucking pussy. You know, and it's like, it has to be so lonely at the end of the day, right? And I think that like maybe they're just like, uh, on stage, it's a time where, uh, they just like, uh, you know, they're like, this, this is something that I feel like I could do me in a way that's comfortable.

• 49:48Speaker 05

  I think, I think that's exactly right.

• 49:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:51Speaker 05

  Uh, like that's their moment.

• 49:53Adam Friedland?

  It must suck dude. Do young bulls walk up to you and they're like, you know, the third album, uh, fuck.

• 49:58Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 49:58Adam Friedland?

  Do they do that?

• 49:59Speaker 05

  Your past, yeah, your, well, your past is your own worst enemy is, that's another Neil Young quote, like he puts out, he puts out.

• 50:12Speaker 05

  He puts out like all these classic records and then he puts out this new record and it sounds different than the old stuff and everybody's comparing it to the old stuff.

• 50:20Adam Friedland?

  Going back to the Yeah, go ahead, sorry.

• 50:22Speaker 05

  Your pastor's your own worst enemy. I'm sick of this shit.

• 50:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, go back to Sharpling, that, you know, Rott Rock rule?

• 50:30Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:30Adam Friedland?

  Where you say that he's only into the 80s.

• 50:33Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 50:34Adam Friedland?

  He's only the 80s Neil.

• 50:38Adam Friedland?

  Such a good joke.

• 50:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:40Adam Friedland?

  Only the, but the rest, I don't, I can take it or leave, but the 80s stuff.

• 50:45Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:45Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, which was a real shit. It was a total turds, Neil. Why, why were you going, where were you, you became a robot for a decade? A rockabilly robot?

• 50:58Speaker 05

  I still like it.

• 50:58Adam Friedland?

  No one's laughing now, I feel mean. Neil, I love you. I love you. Um, yeah, I guess, uh, let's talk about Philly.

• 51:07Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 51:07Adam Friedland?

  Um, so yeah, I guess the, you know, you're a, you're, do you feel like, uh, you're Philly's guy?

• 51:13Speaker 05

  I, I am. I am Philly's guy.

• 51:16Adam Friedland?

  You're Philly's guy?

• 51:17Speaker 05

  I'm not the only one, but I've been.

• 51:18Adam Friedland?

  You're more than Bradley Cooper, would you say?

• 51:21Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 51:21Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, more than Shane Gillis? He's not even from, he's from Harrisburg.

• 51:26Speaker 05

  First of all, I don't think they're in Philly and I am.

• 51:29Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, it's true.

• 51:30Speaker 05

  That's part of it. I'm holding it down in Philly and I wanted to, even in my, my first album was called A Constant Hitmaker, but it's, that's short for Philly's Constant Hitmaker, so I've been holding Philly down since, uh, I guess the early aughts when I, 2003, I put out my first CDR under my own name. Uh, but I just wanted to put it in writing. And also there's a title track on here, you know, Philly's Been Good To Me, which is a nod to a Tom Petty song, which is California's Been Good To Me.

• 52:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 05

  But anyway, I wanted to call it out.

• 52:09Adam Friedland?

  Have you ever gotten 12 o'clock on a motorcycle?

• 52:11Speaker 05

  What's that?

• 52:12Adam Friedland?

  Like pop a wheelie?

• 52:14Speaker 05

  No.

• 52:15Adam Friedland?

  He's not Philly at all, dude. He knows nothing about Philly.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  Is that Philly?

• 52:18Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, that's Philly, dude. Going 12 o'clock?

• 52:20Speaker 05

  Oh, like those, those biker gangs?

• 52:23Adam Friedland?

  Like the kids, yeah.

• 52:24Speaker 05

  Oh, that's intense.

• 52:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 05

  I remember...

• 52:27Adam Friedland?

  Did you lick poop after the Eagles won the Super Bowl?

• 52:30Speaker 05

  No, I didn't. I don't care about that.

• 52:31Adam Friedland?

  This guy's, he's trying to act like he's Benjamin Franklin. He's trying to be... He think, he think he Benjamin Franklin. I don't know why I said it that way.

• 52:40Speaker 05

  I like it.

• 52:40Adam Friedland?

  Um, no, yeah, I mean, I guess you, you, uh, you take shots at, uh, at Bruce, though, right? You have bars that, that you call out Bruce.

• 52:50Speaker 05

  I love Bruce.

• 52:51Adam Friedland?

  You better be covering, you better be careful after this Kendrick Drake thing the other...

• 52:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:56Adam Friedland?

  Here!

• 52:56Speaker 05

  I've covered a few Bruce Springsteen songs in my day and recorded them. But he, uh, he's got the song called "Philadelphia", and then Neil Young's got the song "City of Brotherly Love", but they're both on the soundtrack to the movie Philadelphia.

• 53:10Adam Friedland?

  And you should have been.

• 53:10Speaker 05

  But even so...

• 53:11Adam Friedland?

  Cause that, you would have been young, actually, I think.

• 53:13Speaker 05

  I would have been young.

• 53:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:14Speaker 05

  But...

• 53:16Adam Friedland?

  And also the Chicken Man, the Chicken Man.

• 53:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, they blew up the Chicken Man in Philly last...

• 53:20Adam Friedland?

  Was that a real guy?

• 53:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, some mobster.

• 53:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:26Speaker 05

  Affiliate.

• 53:27Adam Friedland?

  Wait, so you think that because, um, Bruce Springsteen was born... I mean, it's not his, his parents lived there. He was born in New Jersey. He has no right to have Philly's name in his motherfucking mouth? Well, I mean, it's kinda arbitrary.

• 53:42Speaker 05

  I didn't say it's no right.

• 53:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:44Speaker 05

  But I'm really, I'm really from there, so...

• 53:47Adam Friedland?

  And it's offensive, and it is it painful?

• 53:49Speaker 05

  So I can sing about Philly and mean it, that's all.

• 53:50Adam Friedland?

  So the streets of Philadelphia, it hurt when you heard that song?

• 53:53Speaker 05

  No, I like it, but in the moment when I wrote those lyrics, I was thinking about it and...

• 53:58Adam Friedland?

  You know Denzel Washington and Tom Hanks also are not from Philadelphia. How do you feel about that?

• 54:04Speaker 05

  You know what that reminds me of? That reminds me of when I was, uh, younger, I was working at Philadelphia Brewing Company and this kid... This kid, uh, my hair was like long and shaggy and then I got it cut way too short and this kid got, got on my nerves and I, it was the weekend and I wouldn't even, even seen him, but then I, I saw him at a party and he took one look at me. No, it was the weekend, so we weren't at work. And I got my hair cut and I was all like shy, maybe a little stoned. And I was like, fuck, I got this bad haircut. And then I took one look at this guy and he saw me and he took one look at me and he said, "You look, you look just like Tom Hanks." And I was so pissed.

• 54:43Adam Friedland?

  You kinda do look like Tom Hanks.

• 54:45Speaker 05

  I know, with short hair.

• 54:46Adam Friedland?

  Wow, and you look like Dave Mustaine with long hair?

• 54:48Speaker 05

  I guess.

• 54:49Adam Friedland?

  God, what a false modesty. You look like the two most handsome guys on earth.

• 54:54Speaker 05

  Yeah, but neither of those people I wanna look like, to be honest.

• 54:57Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 54:58Speaker 05

  Obviously, yeah.

• 54:59Adam Friedland?

  People say I look like Mick Jagger, it's really annoying.

• 55:02Speaker 05

  You look like Mick Jagger.

• 55:03Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I get it all the time, I'm like, I'm just doing me, dude. I'm not trying to do him.

• 55:07Speaker 05

  I could see that.

• 55:08Adam Friedland?

  You've, really?

• 55:10Speaker 05

  Did you make that up?

• 55:12Adam Friedland?

  I've been going for it for a while. And I finally got it.

• 55:16Speaker 05

  Got it?

• 55:18Adam Friedland?

  Under my thumb. Do you like Stones?

• 55:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 55:22Adam Friedland?

  Best.

• 55:23Speaker 05

  In fact, yeah, like, what I said, I call myself Philly's constant hitmaker. I stole that from the Stones album, England's newest hitmaker.

• 55:32Adam Friedland?

  Oh.

• 55:38Adam Friedland?

  Um, so guys, May 29th. Go get the album, it's got a gatefold.

• 55:47Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 55:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Listen, guys, you get two, listen, I know you're gonna like, see this in the record store, you'll be like, "Ugh, I don't wanna buy one vinyl, that's such a ripoff." You got two, folks!

• 55:58Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 55:59Adam Friedland?

  That's how much he cares about you, Kurt Vile, everyone!

• 56:05Adam Friedland?

  Maestro!

• 56:40Adam Friedland?

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