DAVID HOGG Talks Parkland, DNC, Saving the Party

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• 2:15Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you just got dumped?

• 2:16Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:16Adam Friedland?

  How recently?

• 2:17Speaker 05

  Two months ago.

• 2:18Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my God, you're in it right now. You're trying to save the Democrats?

• 2:21Speaker 05

  I know.

• 2:22Adam Friedland?

  Bro!

• 2:22Speaker 05

  I just like throwing challenges on top of challenges.

• 2:25Adam Friedland?

  What albums are you listening to post-breakup?

• 2:26Speaker 05

  There's a song called "Wicked Game" that's very good.

• 2:29Adam Friedland?

  Chris Isaak?

• 2:30Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:30Adam Friedland?

  That's a horny-ass song.

• 2:32Speaker 05

  And then?

• 2:32Adam Friedland?

  What, you're listening to sex songs post-breakup?

• 2:35Speaker 05

  Well, you know what the song's actually about, right? It's literally, it's anyways.

• 2:39Adam Friedland?

  I feel like I'm like, I'm watching someone having sex listening to that song.

• 2:44Speaker 05

  Well.

• 2:44Adam Friedland?

  And I wanna fall in love.

• 2:47Speaker 05

  That's a great imitation.

• 3:19Adam Friedland?

  Hello and welcome to The Adam Friedland Show. And as always, I just want to thank our members and our patrons who help support the show, help keep the lights on. If you'd like to support the show, there's a link in the description of this video, or you can click "Join" at the top of the page. For $5 a month, you get every episode before it's released to the public. You get discount codes on our merch. And if you join at the second or third tier, you'll get your name in the credits of every episode. Also, there's a link to our Patreon in the description if you prefer to support the show through Patreon. My guest this week is former Vice Chair of the DNC David Hogg. He first rose to prominence, of course, in 2018 in the wake of the Marjorie Stoneman-Douglas

• 4:02Adam Friedland?

  school shooting, when he organized a series of high-profile protests in support of gun control. More recently, in 2023, he founded Leaders We Deserve PAC to help young progressive candidates get elected to public office. But before we show you the interview, I need to address something. As many of you know, things have changed quite dramatically in my life. ...over the last few months. Laudatory profiles have been published in The New York Times, which is my favorite newspaper, and The New Yorker, which is a periodical that I've been meaning to check out, once I will. It's on my list. You know, the literati are starting to pay attention, but I promise to you, the viewers, I'm never gonna change. I'm the same old bitch, okay?

• 4:44Adam Friedland?

  On Monday, I finally got the call up to the big leagues, the one I've been waiting for. I was asked to appear as a panelist on the Piers Morgan program. Now, whenever I get the question, "Who are your guys?", I always say three names. Number one, Bob Dylan, of course. Number two, Martin Luther King, MLK, some people know him as. And then number three, of course, is Mr. Piers Morgan. And I just can't tell you guys how riveting and thrilling I found the conversation on his program to be.

• 5:17Speaker 06

  Joining me now to debate Charlie Kirk, Jimmy Kimmel, on the battle for free speech, is the CEO of Tim Cast Media, Tim Paul, the man The New Yorker has called the future of late night, host of the hugely successful show The Adam Friedland Show, comedian Adam Friedland. So where do you sit with all this?

• 5:32Adam Friedland?

  I am a tell it like it is comedian. There's a lot of, uh, kind of empathy being expressed towards Kimmel right now, but where is the empathy for Donald Trump? Certainly conservative comics like Dennis Miller, Michael Richards, Kill Tony.

• 5:51Speaker 06

  I detect a slight sarcasm to your tone.

• 5:55Adam Friedland?

  I'm not, I'm not.

• 5:56Speaker 06

  Bob Iger will go down in media history as Neville Chamberlain in a cashmere sweater, minus the dignity.

• 6:01Adam Friedland?

  Okay.

• 6:02Speaker 06

  What do you think of that?

• 6:04Adam Friedland?

  People always use Neville Chamberlain as a historical reference. Not to prove that no Democrats ever celebrated a cancellation on the right.

• 6:13Speaker 06

  I agree with you. Tim Paul?

• 6:16Speaker 05

  Listen, Bob Iger jumped up on his desk and started tap dancing when this controversy started because it-

• 6:21Speaker 06

  There's a real visceral reluctance to have people on the right even engaging in debate, and that's gotta change.

• 6:28Adam Friedland?

  Not on The Adam Friedland Show, not on my show.

• 6:30Speaker 06

  Well, your show's great, that's why.

• 6:32Adam Friedland?

  I think it's an issue. I think that there's some people on the- You know, on my show. After I recorded the episode, I was- Nervous wreck all day. I was waiting around for the episode to be released. And finally, something popped up on this popular social media platform, X.com. But what I saw devastated me to no end. Mr. Morgan posted a tweet with a clip to the episode that referred to me as comedian Adam Friedman. To be deliberately attacked by one of my heroes, frankly, has broken me. I found it difficult to get out of bed. I found it difficult to listen to my girlfriend's awesome and interesting and hilarious stories. Perhaps Mr. Morgan is threatened by my recent ascent in the political chat show space.

• 7:16Adam Friedland?

  Or perhaps, God forbid, this was a well orchestrated, deliberate act of antisemitism. We don't all look the same. Some of us are good at money. Some of us are good at books. And I happen to be good at neither. So, Mr. Morgan, I'd like to invite you to come on my program and to settle this like a man. My name is Adam Dean Friedland. It's the only name I have. I got it from my mother and father. And you'll be seeing a whole lot more of me, Piers. So here's my conversation with David Hogg. And I'll see you in a minute, one minute. Our next guest is president and co-founder of Leaders We Deserve. He first came to national attention in 2018.

• 8:01Adam Friedland?

  David Hogg, everyone. You can clap, guys. What's wrong with you people?

• 8:08Speaker 05

  Hey, I don't know how you.

• 8:09Adam Friedland?

  Very well. Thanks for coming, dude.

• 8:12Speaker 05

  Thank you. I love the studio audience.

• 8:14Adam Friedland?

  President and co-founder, so you made the other guy be less than you.

• 8:16Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 8:17Adam Friedland?

  You started the club with him.

• 8:18Speaker 05

  We just have different roles.

• 8:19Adam Friedland?

  Coffee, coffee run, Starbucks.

• 8:21Speaker 05

  No, that's not it at all.

• 8:22Adam Friedland?

  What does he do?

• 8:22Speaker 05

  He does a lot more of the internal mechanics and I'm a lot more front-facing.

• 8:25Adam Friedland?

  Dude, DC is awesome, dude. You live there?

• 8:28Speaker 05

  Yeah, I do.

• 8:29Adam Friedland?

  Where in DC?

• 8:30Speaker 05

  I would get into that, but my house has been swatted before and stuff, so I prefer not to talk about that.

• 8:35Adam Friedland?

  That's just a thing that people do now.

• 8:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:38Adam Friedland?

  We had Taylor Lorenz. She said her parents get, did they SWAT team?

• 8:42Speaker 05

  That's horrible, yeah.

• 8:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 8:43Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 8:44Adam Friedland?

  That's just what happens.

• 8:45Speaker 05

  In Parkland, it happened to my family, yeah.

• 8:47Adam Friedland?

  You were a junior or senior when the events happened? Is that right?

• 8:53Speaker 05

  I was a senior.

• 8:54Adam Friedland?

  And you're a senior? And just adults were pissed at you? Like

• 8:58Speaker 05

  There's a lot of people.

• 8:59Adam Friedland?

  For the rest of your life, adults were pissed at you.

• 9:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:02Adam Friedland?

  You became an adult.

• 9:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 9:04Adam Friedland?

  But like, I just, you kind of like, it's strange. We had, because we had that kid, Harry Sisson, too.

• 9:09Speaker 05

  Right.

• 9:10Adam Friedland?

  He just gets, he gets yelled at by like dads.

• 9:13Speaker 05

  Really?

• 9:14Adam Friedland?

  I mean, like, if you look at his comments, it's just like, it's kind of like, you got a, you, you kids got like a Thunberg kind of treatment where it's like, you were very altruistic and then people were like, fuck these baby, like, you know, fuck these kids, right? And it's a strange like kind of impulse. What, what do you think that was like? Or what was it like when you first started experiencing that?

• 9:35Speaker 05

  Honestly, I, in the beginning, we were so focused after Parkland on just getting change and like raising hell to force change to happen, that I wasn't that focused on it. But eventually it did break through more because I remember the first time somebody asked me like, oh, have you gotten your first death threat? And just said that casually to me as a seventeen year old. I was like, what?

• 9:55Adam Friedland?

  Someone gave you a death threat or asked you?

• 9:57Speaker 05

  No, somebody asked like, oh, have you started getting them yet? Like, just like, it's an inevitability. And I was like, what are you talking about? And then I got really kind of paranoid and freaked out about it, of course, because I was seventeen. And I think the, one of the worst,

• 10:16Speaker 05

  sorry, one of the really hard things that happened after Parkland, when you were like speaking out after something like that, that happened to a lot of the students that spoke out, was we would, for example, do an interview and a TV producer would be like, oh, you kids are so inspiring, can I get a photo with you? And what do you do in a photo, Adam? You smile, most of the time, right? Or that.

• 10:36Speaker 05

  And when we smiled in that photo and they would put out those photos, a lot of right wingers would take those photos and say, these are the photos, these are the faces that you make when you're standing on the bodies of your dead classmates.

• 10:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 05

  And to be told that, like, what?

• 10:52Adam Friedland?

  It's such a fucking psychotic world.

• 10:54Speaker 05

  It's horrible.

• 10:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:55Speaker 05

  But we actually internalized it. And we told ourselves it wasn't okay to be happy. It wasn't okay to, to have any amount of joy because of what we went through. And it took a long time for us to unlearn that. Because I think those, those people knew.

• 11:07Adam Friedland?

  What do you mean it wasn't okay to be happy? You were depressed, you mean?

• 11:10Speaker 05

  Well, that it wasn't okay to have any amount of joy or ever smile because you would survive the school shooting. Does that make sense?

• 11:16Adam Friedland?

  So in the pictures, you were frowning, right?

• 11:18Speaker 05

  Well, in photos-

• 11:19Adam Friedland?

  I'm sorry, I'm a stupid guy, sorry.

• 11:21Speaker 05

  No, no, what I'm saying is, for example, there's one photo that we took with a producer after an interview that we did with them, where the producer was like, "Oh, you kids are so amazing, like, can I take a photo with you?" Naturally, no matter really what you've gone through, you still smile in a photo, even if it's, you know, a few weeks after or whatever. And the right would take those photos and say, "These are the bodies that you're- These are the faces that you make when you're standing on the bodies of your dead classmates."

• 11:45Adam Friedland?

  And that was like, that was like a popular response that you guys were making, yeah.

• 11:49Speaker 05

  And we really internalized it because, obviously, we have a lot of survivor's guilt. We have a lot of PTSD. And for a long time, we told ourselves it wasn't okay to be happy.

• 11:59Adam Friedland?

  And you also just had to, like, become part of the adult world, or the mess of the adult world. And not only the regular adult world, where you're going to the accountancy firm, and then you're watching The Office after work. I can't imagine what it would be like at seventeen or eighteen to be known. I don't know, like, how did you handle that? Like, just like, uh, just the, you know, like, being a private kid, you know? What were you doing before that? Cross-country running?

• 12:26Speaker 05

  In case you couldn't tell.

• 12:27Adam Friedland?

  Did you, you were blazing up?

• 12:29Speaker 05

  No, absolutely not. I had, I was a serious athlete. I had to, and my dad was an FBI agent too, so-

• 12:35Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my god.

• 12:35Speaker 05

  As you can imagine.

• 12:36Adam Friedland?

  Was that Narco? Yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 12:38Adam Friedland?

  Did he go undercover?

• 12:40Speaker 05

  Uh, he had in the past.

• 12:41Adam Friedland?

  So your dad used to have different looks? He'd be like biker one, what, for six months?

• 12:45Speaker 05

  No, he wasn't a biker, and I can talk about this now because he-

• 12:48Adam Friedland?

  He'd be like ISIS terrorist cell for six months?

• 12:51Speaker 05

  Well, no. As you can imagine, a guy who was my father doesn't presumably fit in very well.

• 12:56Adam Friedland?

  I don't know, I'm not, I don't, he's an actor, I mean, he could play any role.

• 13:00Speaker 05

  But, um, yeah, he, uh, when he started out in the FBI, his job was, he was, he would go undercover and dig through different people's trash to help-

• 13:08Adam Friedland?

  He's a hobo.

• 13:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, he would go undercover as a hobo and-

• 13:11Adam Friedland?

  He's a government hobo, yeah, yeah, yeah. So your dad was an FBI agent, your mom's a teacher?

• 13:15Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 13:16Adam Friedland?

  Right?

• 13:16Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 13:17Adam Friedland?

  Did you go to parties?

• 13:18Speaker 05

  Did I go to parties?

• 13:19Adam Friedland?

  Did you hit brew?

• 13:20Speaker 05

  Not very often.

• 13:21Adam Friedland?

  Did you have beers or blunts before? You were just a running kid?

• 13:25Speaker 05

  Uh, I was a pretty big nerd, I would say that much.

• 13:28Adam Friedland?

  Student government?

• 13:29Speaker 05

  Absolutely not, not that big of a nerd.

• 13:31Adam Friedland?

  Did you play gaming?

• 13:32Speaker 05

  I did play a lot of Call of Duty and Modern Warfare. And I actually still do play. I still do play a good amount of Call of Duty.

• 13:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 13:40Speaker 05

  Like, on my phone, and it's kinda hilarious because, you know, I'm sure I'm playing with a lot of guys that are further.

• 13:45Adam Friedland?

  You play mobile?

• 13:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, that are playing, you know, guys that I'm sure to some extent are to the right of me a lot of the time.

• 13:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 13:50Speaker 05

  And I get pretty good and I'll get like first place and I'll get all these likes and like people following me stuff. And they'll be like, this is great, whatever.

• 13:57Adam Friedland?

  You just got beat by the hog.

• 13:58Speaker 05

  Exactly, and I'm just always laughing because I'm like, if only you knew. Like, because I can only imagine.

• 14:03Adam Friedland?

  You wanna beat them in Nazi zombies?

• 14:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:06Adam Friedland?

  You wanna cook them in Nazi zombies?

• 14:07Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:07Adam Friedland?

  I played FIFA for a while, but it was just kids in like Saudi Arabia that were 11, just beasting. I could lose like 11-1.

• 14:14Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:15Adam Friedland?

  And yeah, it really hurt my feelings.

• 14:16Speaker 05

  And you didn't lock in?

• 14:18Adam Friedland?

  I don't have the time, dude, I'm 38, I can't get back into video games, I tried to. I played Red Dead, though.

• 14:24Speaker 05

  Oh, really, how was that?

• 14:26Adam Friedland?

  I didn't, like, you disappear from the world, right? You're like not in the world? It's kinda crazy. I'd like check my phone, I thought it was like 9:45, it would be like 4:00 a.m.

• 14:37Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 14:38Adam Friedland?

  It was amazing, though. It was one of the most special experiences of my life. My girlfriend asked if she could play for a second and then she punched my horse in the face and I was like, can you just give it back to me? What are you doing?

• 14:49Speaker 05

  Right.

• 14:49Adam Friedland?

  Let me play Cowboys. Yeah, no, I can't, I can't game. So wait, so you were just a nerd? You were good, you got, you were like, uh, were you in clubs or anything?

• 14:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, so like I helped start a drone racing team at my high school.

• 15:02Adam Friedland?

  Drone racing?

• 15:03Speaker 05

  Yeah, it is as nerdy as you imagine and the only woman that ever showed up to that was my sister when she had to as a freshman because I had to drive her home.

• 15:10Adam Friedland?

  Oh my god, dude.

• 15:12Speaker 05

  So there was that, and I was also in TV production, and I think this is a.

• 15:15Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you did AV kinda stuff, yeah, yeah.

• 15:17Speaker 05

  So this is, I think this is a really important component of the story that a lot of people don't know about what happened after Parkland. And I think part of the reason why it went, things. Happened the way that they did after the shooting was our school had a pretty good TV production program and we had a pretty advanced speech and debate program.

• 15:34Adam Friedland?

  I did speech and debate.

• 15:35Speaker 05

  So I was in speech and debate as well.

• 15:36Adam Friedland?

  What did you do?

• 15:37Speaker 05

  I did PF and extemp.

• 15:38Adam Friedland?

  I did LD and I did it.

• 15:40Speaker 05

  Don't even get me started on the spreading in LD.

• 15:42Adam Friedland?

  No, no, no, that's.

• 15:43Speaker 05

  Did you spread a lot?

• 15:44Adam Friedland?

  Policy is spreading, dude.

• 15:45Speaker 05

  Well, LD does spreading too.

• 15:46Adam Friedland?

  They think that they're gonna think we're some sort of nasty, nasty. Spreading is you talk really fast.

• 15:52Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's not.

• 15:52Adam Friedland?

  It's not like.

• 15:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 15:54Adam Friedland?

  It's not. It's not Sharon Stone, okay? Okay, it's where you try to get as much evidence out and he's wrong because it's policy debate. He's lying right now.

• 16:04Speaker 05

  No, policy does it more.

• 16:05Adam Friedland?

  LD is philosophical. It's about you give great speeches and stuff.

• 16:09Speaker 05

  Regardless, there's more spreading.

• 16:10Adam Friedland?

  You get too emotional.

• 16:10Speaker 05

  In LD, that can happen than PF typically.

• 16:13Adam Friedland?

  What's PF?

• 16:15Speaker 05

  Public forum.

• 16:16Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you just did government. That's like the government. You know, Robert's Rules of Whatever Order.

• 16:21Speaker 05

  Well, so I don't know how much of that actually has to do with PF, but in terms of Robert's Rules of Order, but the point I was getting at is that I really wanted to be a broadcast journalist when I was in high school.

• 16:33Adam Friedland?

  Like do the news?

• 16:34Speaker 05

  Do the news. Like I grew up, I kind of wanted to be like a. I didn't know who this person was at the time, but in hindsight. I wanted to be like Mike Wallace, if you're familiar with him.

• 16:46Adam Friedland?

  60 Minutes, yeah.

• 16:47Speaker 05

  Kind of, yeah. And the thing about Mike Wallace is like he would just grill people. And I really wanted to be a journalist that scared the hell out of really powerful people that I saw as corrupt, inept, and some combination of just stupid, generally speaking. So I would start making TV production content about at a small scale, like in my high school, where we wouldn't have enough Spanish textbooks, but we had to have them for our classes and stuff, so I'd go and talk to the principal.

• 17:11Adam Friedland?

  So you'd grill the principal.

• 17:12Speaker 05

  Exactly. And then all of a sudden, we'd have enough Spanish textbooks, right?

• 17:15Adam Friedland?

  Really, it worked?

• 17:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean.

• 17:17Adam Friedland?

  She wasn't like, this hog is getting too, getting too big for his britches.

• 17:20Speaker 05

  I guess. And because of being in TV production and speech and debate, I had to argue about guns prior to the shooting. I'd argue about universal background checks.

• 17:31Adam Friedland?

  Your media trained also.

• 17:32Speaker 05

  To some extent because of TV production.

• 17:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 17:36Speaker 05

  So I knew how to talk on camera and I knew the issues that I needed to talk about. So when we went out there, myself and a lot of my other classmates, we sounded unnaturally good on camera, unnaturally good at, you know, knowing the policy issues because our public education actually did its job. But instead, people chose to believe that we worked for the FBI or we worked for some government agency because they find it more believable that we would work for some three-letter agency than the fact that our own education system could actually do its job.

• 18:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 18:06Speaker 05

  And that's part of the reason why there were so many conspiracy theories that happened after the shooting. For example, there was a clip where I was-

• 18:12Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, they said you were like a crisis actor.

• 18:14Speaker 05

  Right. And they would take clips of me where I was doing, you know, what I learned in TV production, where like instinctually sometimes if you want to redo a take or something, like you count down from like five, right? I would do that and people would be like, "See, like, he's trained." And it's like, to some extent, yeah, because it's TV production, but not because it's a massive conspiracy.

• 18:30Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. You don't have to protect, you don't have to-

• 18:33Speaker 05

  No, but I think that's an important note.

• 18:34Adam Friedland?

  I think it is, but like you don't have to explain yourself. You saw kids getting killed at your school and you wanted to talk about it.

• 18:40Speaker 05

  Well, our, so that's another note.

• 18:42Adam Friedland?

  And you were good at talking about it because you're smart.

• 18:44Speaker 05

  Well, a lot of our classmates, you know, saw all kinds of things and our school, that I think a lot of people don't understand for context too, is like, we're an outdoor school. You know, schools in the northeast-

• 18:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I'm from the west coast, we had a lot of those.

• 18:55Speaker 05

  Exactly. So like, schools in the northeast, like, they're all typically under one roof, like, it's one building, right?

• 19:00Adam Friedland?

  There's like an open courtyard, right?

• 19:01Speaker 05

  At our school, it's like 13 different buildings. So I was in the building next to where the shooting happened, my classmates and I, like, we heard gunshots echoing between the buildings, but we didn't end up seeing anybody in terms of the students that I was immediately around die.

• 19:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 19:14Speaker 05

  But, a lot of our classmates did. And it's a huge high school, it's 3,300 people when I was attending-

• 19:18Adam Friedland?

  And a janitor kept you, like, saved you from going to wards recently?

• 19:24Speaker 05

  So I, that's, that's one other thing too, Adam. I have never found that person since.

• 19:29Adam Friedland?

  What do you mean? How?

• 19:30Speaker 05

  So-

• 19:30Adam Friedland?

  He worked at the school.

• 19:31Speaker 05

  I know. And I, I thought-

• 19:32Adam Friedland?

  We gotta find this guy.

• 19:33Speaker 05

  I thought I found him at like an event, like a long time after the shooting. I have no idea.

• 19:37Adam Friedland?

  What the fuck?

• 19:39Speaker 05

  I know.

• 19:39Adam Friedland?

  That's so weird.

• 19:40Speaker 05

  I know. And I went up to the guy that I thought-

• 19:42Adam Friedland?

  Did they fire him? What like, where'd he go? This is bugging me right now.

• 19:46Speaker 05

  So, what Adam's getting at, for further context, so that people understand, as the shooting happened-

• 19:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, explain it.

• 19:53Speaker 05

  I was exiting my classroom, because we initially thought it was like, a fire drill, or like, a potential like, active shooter drill, or something like that. As we're exiting our classroom, we go to like, our evacuation zone, and all of a sudden, a flood of students start going in the opposite direction of where I'm going. And naturally, you start following those students. As we're following those students, unbeknownst to us at the time, because you don't know if there are multiple shooters, you don't know if it's a drill, you don't know-

• 20:20Adam Friedland?

  You just hear bullets, yeah.

• 20:22Speaker 05

  Like, you just hear gunshots, and like, you don't know what's going on. You don't know if there are bombs on campus, you don't know anything, right? And we were instinctually, I was instinctually like, kind of following the crowd, and as we were running, I was actually running towards where the freshman building was, where the shooting was happening, so it's total chaos. And there was some kind of janitor that I've- When I went up to the person who I-

• 20:43Adam Friedland?

  Some kind of janitor, you can't be saying it-

• 20:45Speaker 05

  I don't know if it was a teacher-

• 20:46Adam Friedland?

  You can't be saying it that way, some kind of janitor.

• 20:48Speaker 05

  Somebody came out, that was an adult, and said like, "Don't come this way, he's over here."

• 20:51Adam Friedland?

  You think he's a ghost?

• 20:52Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 20:53Adam Friedland?

  Could've been like, a bagger Vance.

• 20:55Speaker 05

  Could've been.

• 20:55Adam Friedland?

  Wow.

• 20:56Speaker 05

  But, they came out and said like, "Don't come this way." And as he said that, our culinary teacher opened up her classroom, that was like, the closest classroom to us, and got about, in an incredible act of heroism, got about sixty or seventy students into her classroom in what felt like, the matter of like, thirty seconds.

• 21:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 21:15Speaker 05

  Where I would spend the rest of the time in lockdown, obviously after the shooting. And as we're there, you don't know, like, if you're about to die, kids are having panic attacks, kids are trying to be quiet. I'm texting my sister, who's fourteen years old at the time, she's freaking out, understandably.

• 21:30Adam Friedland?

  She was at the school as well.

• 21:31Speaker 05

  Yeah. She was, thank God, she was on the other side of the school, even though she was a freshman. She was in our TV production class.

• 21:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 21:37Speaker 05

  So, I ended up interviewing my classmates. Not, just as a way of keeping myself calm because I didn't have anything else.

• 21:44Adam Friedland?

  Like you were on the news?

• 21:45Speaker 05

  Kind of like we were, like, as a student journalist. Like, I took out my phone and started interviewing them in case we did die.

• 21:51Adam Friedland?

  In the middle of it?

• 21:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:53Adam Friedland?

  Whoa. Oh, like for your parents to see, like?

• 21:56Speaker 05

  For whoever to see, in case something did happen.

• 21:59Adam Friedland?

  As a document.

• 22:00Speaker 05

  That there would be a record of like these kids saying like, "We need to do something about guns."

• 22:04Adam Friedland?

  Interesting.

• 22:05Speaker 05

  And it was a way of me keeping myself calm in that moment, too, because I remember my dad talking about these types of things. Growing up, being an FBI agent, about like the necessity of staying calm. And I interviewed them and I asked them, "What do you think about like the NRA? What do you think about like the fact that we're going through this and everything?" And thankfully, that day, my, the classmates in my immediate vicinity, I made it out. But seventeen of our classmates and teachers didn't.

• 22:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 22:27Speaker 05

  In the building, right next door to us.

• 22:29Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. And, uh, did you like post, you posted it, like, while it was happening?

• 22:34Speaker 05

  Not while it was happening. I ended up, I think I ended up, this is like eight years ago now, Adam, so it's kind of a blur. But I think what I ended up doing was I sent it first to our, um, I was working for like, as like basically, so, whatever's lower than an intern, like basically that, for the local paper at the time. I was very bad at my job. Um, and I sent it to like my producer, the person that was there.

• 22:56Adam Friedland?

  Oh, like to go on the?

• 22:58Speaker 05

  To go on the news, yeah.

• 22:59Adam Friedland?

  The news, yeah. Yeah, fuck. I mean, I, I'm sure that's like a way that you could distract yourself, right?

• 23:05Speaker 05

  Kind of.

• 23:06Adam Friedland?

  Focus on something else. Um, did you ever meet Nicholas Cruz? I mean, had you, were, did you know who he was?

• 23:13Speaker 05

  No. I mean, our, our school is three thousand people.

• 23:15Adam Friedland?

  It's a big school.

• 23:16Speaker 05

  I don't remember meeting him, um, ever. And I also-

• 23:19Adam Friedland?

  Is it true that Broward County Sheriff's Department, there were like multiple red flags and?

• 23:24Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 23:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Cause I don't think people talk about that enough.

• 23:27Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, that, that's the crazy thing to me is like, you have an instance here where the system has failed in multiple major ways, right? The police were called, I think it was over a dozen times, and in the one to two years before the shooting, to the shooter's house.

• 23:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 23:41Speaker 05

  About different disturbances that were happening. And despite the fact that he couldn't purchase an AR-15 because he was not, uh, or sorry, despite the fact that he could not purchase a handgun, because he was not twenty-one yet, he couldn't illegally purchase that from a federally licensed dealer. He could purchase an AR-15.

• 23:57Adam Friedland?

  Why?

• 23:57Speaker 05

  Cause he was above the age of eighteen. Which is the logic of the NRA, right?

• 24:03Adam Friedland?

  That's still the law?

• 24:05Speaker 05

  So, kind of, for the most part it is.

• 24:08Adam Friedland?

  So depressing.

• 24:10Speaker 05

  The only addition I'll make to that is, after the Uvalde and Buffalo massacres, Congress changed the laws, passing the first federal gun law in 30 years, where they expanded background checks for people under the age of 21 attempting to buy guns.

• 24:24Adam Friedland?

  Oh.

• 24:24Speaker 05

  Which is nowhere near enough, to be clear. But I will note, there have been over, I think it's over 1,500 people that are high-risk individuals that the FBI has documented that previously would have been allowed to purchase guns like the AR-15 that because of that enhanced background check have since been prevented.

• 24:39Adam Friedland?

  Well...

• 24:40Speaker 05

  Which is nowhere near enough, to be clear.

• 24:42Adam Friedland?

  It's a tough fight. Gun control is a tough one.

• 24:45Speaker 05

  It is.

• 24:45Adam Friedland?

  I mean, I feel like I forgot about it. I feel like it's so chaotic, this, you know. Mass shootings are also so common, and then just also, yeah, the world has turned into like, so psycho. It's like, as like, it seems like it's like from like the 1990s or something. It seems like it's like from the West Wing.

• 25:05Speaker 05

  It's numbing, almost.

• 25:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 25:07Speaker 05

  And I mean...

• 25:07Adam Friedland?

  It must be for you, like, for that to be where you're coming from, like, that's like, you know, must be. I remember Obama crying on TV, do you remember that?

• 25:15Speaker 05

  Of course. I remember posting about Sandy Hook when I was in middle school. I mean, like, how could this happen? This is so disturbing.

• 25:22Adam Friedland?

  You were in middle school for Sandy Hook?

• 25:24Speaker 05

  I think I was in middle school, yeah. I think I was in 7th grade.

• 25:27Adam Friedland?

  And, and, correct me if I'm wrong, kids in schools now are like, there's mass shooting training? Is that a thing?

• 25:34Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 25:34Adam Friedland?

  So that...

• 25:35Speaker 05

  Damn. Yes.

• 25:37Adam Friedland?

  God.

• 25:37Speaker 05

  It is. It's horrifying.

• 25:38Adam Friedland?

  I was just watching American Pie, I was like, by the end of this year, we're all getting laid. It's very simple. It's like, you're like, you're going to school in like, a, you know, fucking, in a Black Hawk Down or whatever, you know, like...

• 25:51Speaker 05

  Yeah. It's horrifying, I mean...

• 25:53Adam Friedland?

  You should have seen it, dude. It was a great country, man. I was mad at Bush, but that feels quaint at that, at this point now. Yeah, I mean.

• 26:02Speaker 05

  Still lots to be mad about.

• 26:03Adam Friedland?

  So, okay, so let's, let's talk about like after the fact, and we, we touched on that earlier. So like, one thing I remember from Twitter was that like, there was also like right, there was like a, that kid Kyle, right? He was like on the right wing side of like the Parkland kids. Like you guys got politicized.

• 26:21Speaker 05

  For sure.

• 26:21Adam Friedland?

  Right? And like, you guys became symbols and.

• 26:25Speaker 05

  Well, I'll say this, what, what I will say now.

• 26:27Adam Friedland?

  He's chill now.

• 26:28Speaker 05

  Not to interrupt you though.

• 26:29Adam Friedland?

  I think I, this won't make the episode, I ran into him once. He came up to me, he's like, dude, I'm not right wing anymore, I'm chill.

• 26:36Speaker 05

  What?

• 26:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, dude, I don't give a fuck about that shit anymore, dude. Like, he's like, I, I'm just trying to like chill. I live in the city.

• 26:44Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 26:44Adam Friedland?

  It's kind of nice, right?

• 26:45Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean.

• 26:46Adam Friedland?

  If that was news to you, I'm glad I broke that news.

• 26:48Speaker 05

  What's crazy to me is that I literally got a call from him immediately after the shooting to him like, like trying to like challenge me to a fight in the cafeteria.

• 26:57Adam Friedland?

  Guns at dawn.

• 26:58Speaker 05

  I, I was like.

• 26:59Adam Friedland?

  Or not, I don't know, like.

• 27:01Speaker 05

  I don't know. And I was like, what the hell are you talking about, man? Like we have.

• 27:04Adam Friedland?

  Why was he mad at you immediately after? Cause you did those interviews?

• 27:07Speaker 05

  I think because we were speaking out and saying what we thought needed to be done, right? And he obviously didn't agree, which like, look, it's, people can have their, their differences of opinion.

• 27:15Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. He was speaking out himself.

• 27:17Speaker 05

  Adam, I.

• 27:18Adam Friedland?

  You were also kids, dude.

• 27:19Speaker 05

  What I'll, what I'll say is this much.

• 27:20Adam Friedland?

  Just let you, just be optimistic, you know, like, that's what really pissed me off. I, I cut you off, but that's what really pissed me off about the response is like, you're, like, you're supposed to be like, let's change the world when you're 17. Like, that's what you're, you're supposed to be that.

• 27:34Speaker 05

  You're supposed to be dumb enough to believe that change is actually possible.

• 27:36Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, sure, fine. Well, now they're all Republicans.

• 27:41Speaker 05

  Well, not all of them.

• 27:41Adam Friedland?

  We can go, we can go to that later on.

• 27:43Speaker 05

  We'll go to that later, certainly.

• 27:44Adam Friedland?

  But that's fucking weird to me, you know?

• 27:45Speaker 05

  It is fucking weird. It is extremely weird.

• 27:47Adam Friedland?

  It's normal that you're like, we're gonna, we're gonna get together, we're gonna do something. Like, that's, that's, you're supposed to have that optimism at that age and like, there's a, you know. This might go nowhere, okay. But I don't know if you remember when there was like that kid Nick Sandman? Like in DC? There's that kid with the MAGA hat and the Native American.

• 28:06Speaker 05

  Oh, right.

• 28:07Adam Friedland?

  And then like it was like that picture was taken and put in all these newspapers and stuff like that. Like everyone was like wanted to fucking like be like this kid's evil, fuck this kid. I think that kid actually got paid. I think like he sued all these news organizations. Uh, because what it doesn't matter. But there was part of me that was a little bit like, listen, he's seventeen years old, like. People's opinions change, like, you know, I'm the, you know. People are allowed to like be kids and like, you know.

• 28:35Speaker 05

  And change.

• 28:36Adam Friedland?

  You know? And a little bit, yeah, that kid's wearing a MAGA hat, but it's just like, he's not Donald Trump. Like, he's just a kid that's like, maybe his parents are Republican. Maybe, I mean, it's just like, holding kids accountable, like, and you, you experienced this yourself, it's like. It's a little bit like, it's just like, the way society treats younger people nowadays, it's just like, um. It's, it's, uh, the world that you guys inherited is terrible. Like, I got, my shit was awesome. People had SUVs and.

• 29:07Speaker 05

  I mean, you had the Iraq war too. That was not great.

• 29:10Adam Friedland?

  We were at PF Chang's. See, the hottest, the hottest girls in my school were the hostesses at PF Chang's and I'd go in with my parents. And I'd wanna throw up, cause I'm like, she's gonna find out I have parents and.

• 29:24Speaker 05

  We've all, we've all been there.

• 29:25Adam Friedland?

  She's gonna think I'm a loser, you know? I mean, it's just.

• 29:28Speaker 05

  Did you ever end up asking her out?

• 29:30Adam Friedland?

  No, of course, what do you think? No, why do you, that's why I'm doing this.

• 29:34Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 29:35Adam Friedland?

  I would've been fucking running Halliburton or something if I.

• 29:39Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:39Adam Friedland?

  I don't know. No, no, of course not. She was, she was probably dating an adult, you know? I was like, I was in, why am I holding this? They do not sponsor the show, sorry.

• 29:52Adam Friedland?

  Icelandic glacial? Probably from Jersey, bro.

• 29:55Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 29:56Adam Friedland?

  It's a joke.

• 29:56Speaker 05

  Hoboken water.

• 29:57Adam Friedland?

  The shit that I, the shit that we fall for. Going back to the fact that you were kind of a loner, bit of a loner, prior to this happening.

• 30:04Speaker 05

  I had friends, to be clear.

• 30:05Adam Friedland?

  Who were your friends?

• 30:06Speaker 05

  Who are my friends? A lot of other speech and debate kids.

• 30:09Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 30:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:10Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 30:10Speaker 05

  So, yes.

• 30:11Adam Friedland?

  And there were a couple chicks on the, there were a couple chicks.

• 30:13Speaker 05

  Well, I tried.

• 30:14Adam Friedland?

  I mean, there were, like, girls that were there.

• 30:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 30:17Adam Friedland?

  And we were dominating them with facts and logic.

• 30:21Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, the worst of us were.

• 30:23Adam Friedland?

  Do you, are you in a relationship?

• 30:25Speaker 05

  Am I in a relationship? No.

• 30:26Adam Friedland?

  No. Have you been in a relationship?

• 30:28Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 30:29Adam Friedland?

  Yes, in college?

• 30:30Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 30:31Adam Friedland?

  Your first love?

• 30:34Speaker 05

  Kind of, yeah.

• 30:36Adam Friedland?

  That's a rough one, when it ends.

• 30:37Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:38Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my god.

• 30:38Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 30:39Adam Friedland?

  Did you, like, say, "God, why have you forsaken me"? Did you do that kind of thing?

• 30:42Speaker 05

  No, I think sometimes you can fall in love with somebody and fall out of love with them.

• 30:46Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my god.

• 30:46Speaker 05

  Because people become different.

• 30:47Adam Friedland?

  You broke up with her.

• 30:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 30:49Adam Friedland?

  Just get ready to get dumped, dude.

• 30:50Speaker 05

  Oh, I have been, trust me.

• 30:52Adam Friedland?

  The first dump? Oh, my god.

• 30:54Speaker 05

  It's brutal.

• 30:54Adam Friedland?

  You're just, you're just fucking Elliott Smith.

• 30:57Speaker 05

  It's brutal. I mean, the last one was so bad.

• 30:59Adam Friedland?

  No one has ever felt pain like this, ever in human history.

• 31:04Speaker 05

  Well, I mean, the, the, the bottom line is, is that it was rough enough that it actually got me to start going to the gym more.

• 31:10Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you're trying to get jacked?

• 31:12Speaker 05

  I'm trying, yeah.

• 31:12Adam Friedland?

  Why, because she used to beat you up?

• 31:14Speaker 05

  No, far from it, no. That, that would have, no.

• 31:19Adam Friedland?

  Dude, she was getting...

• 31:20Speaker 05

  It's just like, more than anything, I, I know that I have a lot of work to do on myself, personally.

• 31:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I mean, you're, your childhood's probably stunted, right?

• 31:29Speaker 05

  A little bit, yeah, it's a little weird.

• 31:31Adam Friedland?

  You had to grow up, you're like a child actor, kind of.

• 31:33Speaker 05

  Well, not in the way that those conspiracies talk about, but sure.

• 31:36Adam Friedland?

  Not in a crisis actor, no, but you're like, you're robbed of a childhood, right?

• 31:40Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of notoriety and all kinds of weird shit.

• 31:43Adam Friedland?

  You didn't get to, like... You didn't get to throw up from drinking too much, or like, you know, like...

• 31:47Speaker 05

  Yeah, I mean, I couldn't go to parties in college when I started as a freshman.

• 31:51Adam Friedland?

  Because they'd see you.

• 31:52Speaker 05

  Because people would start filming me when I was there.

• 31:56Adam Friedland?

  That's so stressful.

• 31:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, and I eventually got over it, once I turned 21, like, I was fine, you know, with drinking and stuff.

• 32:04Speaker 05

  But, yeah, yeah, it's, I'm a pretty weird person in terms of, like, all the random shit that I've gone through.

• 32:13Adam Friedland?

  I wouldn't say, don't hate on your own ass like that.

• 32:16Speaker 05

  Well, I don't think like-

• 32:17Adam Friedland?

  Weird, it's just like you've had a unique road.

• 32:19Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 32:20Adam Friedland?

  That's why, brother, I'm 38, let me OG you. It's gonna make you tough, brother.

• 32:25Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:25Adam Friedland?

  I think so.

• 32:26Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 32:26Adam Friedland?

  Your parents moved to DC, the whole family?

• 32:29Speaker 05

  They ended up moving to DC for a time.

• 32:32Adam Friedland?

  That is kinda child actor style though, right?

• 32:34Speaker 05

  I mean, our house got swatted. And my sister is really struggling because she went through the shooting as a freshman. So the family ended up moving to DC and my sister finished high school up there.

• 32:43Adam Friedland?

  But DC, so you can get in the game, right? A little bit?

• 32:47Speaker 05

  No, it was just that there was a really good high school for my sister to go to up there.

• 32:51Adam Friedland?

  Sidwell?

• 32:52Speaker 05

  No, it was not Sidwell. It was called Georgetown Day School.

• 32:55Adam Friedland?

  Alright.

• 32:56Speaker 05

  And-

• 32:57Adam Friedland?

  Jesuit.

• 32:58Speaker 05

  I don't, well, it's not actually associated with Georgetown, but she did end up going to Georgetown.

• 33:03Adam Friedland?

  Oh, sweet, yeah.

• 33:04Speaker 05

  But-

• 33:04Adam Friedland?

  I went to GW.

• 33:06Speaker 05

  Oh, really?

• 33:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 33:07Speaker 05

  Wow.

• 33:07Adam Friedland?

  I was thinking DC by the end.

• 33:09Speaker 05

  Yeah, it can be a lot.

• 33:10Adam Friedland?

  No, it's just they're so ugly there. And the people are so, they think they're great.

• 33:14Speaker 05

  It's crazy-

• 33:15Adam Friedland?

  What's great about you?

• 33:16Speaker 05

  It's crazy that you say that, because I had the exact same thought when I first got to New York City this week. I was like looking around, I was like, this looks, the people here look so much different from DC. Like, the adage that DC is just Hollywood for ugly people is 100% true.

• 33:31Adam Friedland?

  Why we let those people tell us what to-

• 33:35Adam Friedland?

  I'm sorry.

• 33:36Speaker 05

  No.

• 33:37Adam Friedland?

  I'm sorry, so you think, one of the ways you wanna change the Democratic Party is you want more like 10s?

• 33:42Speaker 05

  No, that's not what I'm getting at.

• 33:43Adam Friedland?

  You gotta get some more 10s in there.

• 33:44Speaker 05

  No, I think we need some top-tier performers in terms of being able to act. No, no, no, no, no. No, what we're working on-

• 33:53Adam Friedland?

  I mean, Zorron is genuinely, that's a handsome guy.

• 33:56Speaker 05

  I mean, there was hot girls for Zorron, right?

• 33:59Adam Friedland?

  Well, no, I'm not, I'm talking about the guy, Zorron. I don't care about these girls, I'm talking about how great this guy looks.

• 34:05Speaker 05

  Well, yeah, but-

• 34:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, he looks phenomenal. He's a handsome, charismatic guy.

• 34:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 34:09Adam Friedland?

  It's like, why wouldn't they want a handsome, charismatic, good speaker in the party?

• 34:13Speaker 05

  Well, you know, I think sometimes-

• 34:14Adam Friedland?

  I think we know.

• 34:15Speaker 05

  Yeah, I think we both do.

• 34:16Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:17Speaker 05

  I think it's, I think it's because he actually represents something that is real, right? That he is saying what voters have been wanting for a long time. Especially younger people have been wanting for a long time. Younger men have been wanting for a long time. He got 85% of young men in that election.

• 34:35Adam Friedland?

  I've been wanting him for a long time.

• 34:37Speaker 05

  And, um, but the thing is like, he had a clear message and it wasn't just a bunch of bullshit talking points. It was like, oh, we're gonna lower prices. Like, sure, he's on TikTok. But the thing is, Andrew Cuomo could have been on TikTok, he would have lost. The only difference would have been, is that he would have lost by even more.

• 34:53Adam Friedland?

  Sure. Oh, TikToks would have been fire.

• 34:55Speaker 05

  The reason why-

• 34:56Adam Friedland?

  I'm doing it, dads.

• 34:58Speaker 05

  Right, something like that.

• 34:59Adam Friedland?

  I'm doing it, dads, for Israel.

• 35:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:01Adam Friedland?

  I'm doing the nay-nay for Israel.

• 35:04Speaker 05

  Right. Um, the bottom line is, when he was on TikTok, he actually said something. Right? And gave something-

• 35:09Adam Friedland?

  Zora?

• 35:10Speaker 05

  Yeah, he gave something for young people to actually believe in, a vision, to believe in. That I think a lot of Democrats have not. And then he was also, obviously, extremely, and rightfully so, vocally critical of the state of Israel. And the atrocities-

• 35:21Adam Friedland?

  I think that was overstated. I think people were like, they made, they made, it was a, they were being racist to him, because he's Muslim. And-

• 35:29Speaker 05

  Certainly a common-

• 35:30Adam Friedland?

  They wanted to make him into Osama bin Laden. And he's really just a rapper that went to Bowdoin.

• 35:35Speaker 05

  What I think is really admirable, is despite all of that hatred, he ran a ruthlessly positive campaign. Right? Where, I would say, like, if you look, when Fox News covers him, it's actually hard for them to find photos of him where he's not smiling. Do you know how hard that is, Adam?

• 35:49Adam Friedland?

  I don't know.

• 35:50Speaker 05

  Like, it is quite difficult.

• 35:51Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 35:52Speaker 05

  Yes. Because they'll find anything. But even when they put up photos of him, he's always smiling in them.

• 35:57Adam Friedland?

  Do they put frowning pictures of Democrats typically?

• 36:00Speaker 05

  Yeah, it's typically like them being upset, or, you know, just whatever makes them look the worst way possible, of course.

• 36:04Adam Friedland?

  Or like, looking fat, or something.

• 36:05Speaker 05

  Yeah. And I, but, when I was with Zoran, we went to Washington Square Park together, like, during the camp, in the final weeks of the campaign. And look, like, I've worked around lots of, on different campaigns, with younger candidates and everything like that. Because that's what we do at Leaders, we deserve. We help to elect young people, state legislatures and congress, and sometimes mayor. And, the reason why we do that, is because we want young people to actually believe that they can be represented, that our issues, whether it's affordability, or addressing, uh, all, all kinds of things, like, the obviously fucked up shit that is happening, that Israel's doing right now, and the genocide that they are committing against Palestinians, getting that addressed.

• 36:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but what does that have to do with New York? I think that, that's one of the annoying things, is that everyone's like- Will you go to Jerusalem? And then it's like-

• 36:49Speaker 05

  It's so weird.

• 36:50Adam Friedland?

  The way it tracked wasn't that it wasn't that- Zorin didn't win because he was speaking out against Israel. He won because people thought, A, he won the Jewish vote. He won because it was, A, people were like, this is weird. Why are people talking about this? Cuomo like used it to attack him.

• 37:04Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 37:04Adam Friedland?

  And then they tried to like present New York City as like a, like a antisemitic hellscape. When we all live here and it's like, what do you, it's New York City. Like this, with, we live in Seinfeld. Like, what do they think? They think it's not the fucking Warsaw ghetto. So it wasn't like, that was just like an attack on him more so because like, he was like a, he'd been part of like activism in the past. But in reality, he, just on a surface level, this is a well-articulate, charismatic, and young and handsome guy that seemed chill. Like, and like, the aversion really seems to like, the guys that are like there, they're

• 37:48Adam Friedland?

  like, I'm gonna just, I'm gonna invest heavy in like the military industrial complex before I appropriate a weapons package.

• 37:55Speaker 05

  Right, it's bullshit.

• 37:56Adam Friedland?

  You know, they just don't wanna-

• 37:57Speaker 05

  That should be fucking illegal, by the way.

• 37:58Adam Friedland?

  They just don't wanna stop like being there, like appropriating weapons packages.

• 38:02Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course not.

• 38:03Adam Friedland?

  And like, they're like, yeah, there are guys that like have been there for 80 years and they're like make ma, they're kinda stealing and they're kind of like entrenched in like their position. They're like, they see like a, a young talent and they-

• 38:15Speaker 05

  And they're scared, because they shouldn't be.

• 38:16Adam Friedland?

  They wanna knife him.

• 38:17Speaker 05

  Yeah, because he is an inherent threat to them, because he is calling them out on their bullshit and actually saying something he believes in.

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• 39:46Adam Friedland?

  The problem is, is like, how does a party that, when 6% of the people think that what's happening in Gaza is genocide, in the Democratic Party, I believe-

• 39:57Speaker 05

  What, just-

• 39:58Adam Friedland?

  Is not, is not a genocide.

• 40:00Speaker 05

  Alright.

• 40:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 40:02Speaker 05

  I was about to say that's-

• 40:03Adam Friedland?

  Maybe 6% of are in favor of what's happening in Gaza, the Democratic Party.

• 40:06Speaker 05

  Right.

• 40:07Adam Friedland?

  I mean, Biden appropriated those funds. How's the party look like when, like, basically, we're seeing people rounded up by, like, Gestapo force right now, like-

• 40:17Speaker 05

  And we're writing fucking strongly worded letters?

• 40:19Adam Friedland?

  We basically invent-

• 40:20Speaker 05

  And that's our response.

• 40:21Adam Friedland?

  No, it was a tiny program in the DHS and Obama basically just, just like-

• 40:25Speaker 05

  Blew it up.

• 40:26Adam Friedland?

  Blew it up. And like, how's it look like when deportations under Biden were, like, pretty much on par with the first term of Trump? Like, consistently, the things that matter to the constituents of the Democratic Party are just completely-

• 40:38Speaker 05

  Ignored.

• 40:39Adam Friedland?

  Ignored. It's really difficult, I think, a difficult position to be put in. And like, the question for you, and like, we can parlay this into your experience with the-

• 40:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 40:51Adam Friedland?

  Vice Chair of the DNC. Is it salvageable? Is the Democratic Party salvageable? An institution that literally wanted to fuck you off for trying to make any changes?

• 41:01Speaker 05

  I mean, I think the bottom line is, with the way that our government is structured, and trust me, Adam, I've, like, this is not a question I take lightly. This is not something that I'm just saying, because it's like, oh, like, this is just the way things are.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  Just structurally speaking, the way our government is set up, we're probably always going to have some kind of two-party system in one way, shape, or form. And I know that sounds like a really boring and academic answer.

• 41:23Adam Friedland?

  I know.

• 41:24Speaker 05

  But what I... Sorry.

• 41:26Adam Friedland?

  Who's that, your agent?

• 41:28Speaker 05

  No, it's...

• 41:29Adam Friedland?

  Sex in the City 3 movie.

• 41:30Speaker 05

  It is a... It's a state senator.

• 41:32Adam Friedland?

  You're going to play Mr... Who is the state senator?

• 41:34Speaker 05

  It's a great state senator.

• 41:35Adam Friedland?

  You want to hit him up? Let's talk to him.

• 41:36Speaker 05

  Zainab Mohammed.

• 41:37Adam Friedland?

  From here, New York?

• 41:39Speaker 05

  No, they're from Minnesota.

• 41:41Adam Friedland?

  Minnesota?

• 41:41Speaker 05

  They actually represent the district that just went through the school shooting, unfortunately, in Minneapolis. So she's calling me about that, so I'm not...

• 41:50Adam Friedland?

  You're the guy that gets a call every shooting? God, your life sucks.

• 41:53Speaker 05

  Well, I try to help people after these things.

• 41:55Adam Friedland?

  I know, it's horrible. But like, it's so... You just have to relive your... The past over and over again. I know that's getting us off track.

• 42:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, I know.

• 42:02Adam Friedland?

  That's... No, but I'd love to hear it.

• 42:04Speaker 05

  I mean, the way that I see this right now, Adam, is the best way to beat them is to actual... To win is to defeat them. And that's what we try to do with Leaders We Deserve. We're trying to find the best young people. Like, there's lots of young people who suck. But the bottom line is, we...

• 42:22Speaker 05

  What I saw in the case of somebody like Maxwell Frost in his race.

• 42:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:26Speaker 05

  I hired Maxwell from my dorm room, right before COVID, actually, to work at March for Our Lives. Maxwell then called me a few years later and told me he wanted to run for Congress. He was 24. And he wasn't the best person in that race just because he was young. He was the best person in that race because he had a decade of experience fighting against gun violence, working for the ACLU, doing all these different forms of activism. And his opponents, his two main opponents, were somebody who committed tax fraud while in Congress as a Democrat. And the other was a hedge fund manager, who was a Democrat in Congress while being a hedge fund manager at the same time. Maxwell had to Uber drive from 9:00 PM to 2:00 AM.

• 43:02Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, he was homeless.

• 43:03Speaker 05

  Every night.

• 43:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 43:04Speaker 05

  He was... Exactly. And there's so many young people like that, that have that grit, that have that will, that have that determination, who don't want to support, you know, all kinds of the awful things that we're talking about happening that the party is supporting. Frankly, many times, the only good politician is a scared one. Specifically, one that is scared of losing their job. And if the government is not going to change our gun laws, if they're not going to address what is happening with, whether it's what's going on between, with Israel, or what's happening with the climate crisis, or the fact that we have a, we are a military welfare state that is feeding a private prison industrial complex through our broken immigration system right now, where there is literally a multi-billion dollar incentive to not fix that system.

• 43:48Speaker 05

  We, if our government doesn't change that from the pressure on the outside, we'll just outlive who is in government and change who is in government by getting these young people elected. That actually do stand for something, hopefully. And it's not-

• 43:59Adam Friedland?

  These motherfuckers live, though.

• 44:00Speaker 05

  They do.

• 44:01Adam Friedland?

  Some of them, I don't know how, they look like Emperor Palpatine.

• 44:03Speaker 05

  And, but that's the crazy thing, Adam. They'll say like, "Oh, my God, experience is so important. It's, it matters so much." It's like, if experience actually was so important-

• 44:11Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 44:12Speaker 05

  And helped us so much, I wouldn't be talking to you right now. Because we wouldn't be in the crisis that we are in with one of the oldest Congresses we have ever had. In Congress right now, do you know how many people are under the age of 30 there?

• 44:24Adam Friedland?

  Um, there's Max.

• 44:25Speaker 05

  That's it.

• 44:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 44:27Speaker 05

  He is the only member of Congress under 30.

• 44:29Adam Friedland?

  That's gotta be the wackest hang ever.

• 44:31Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 44:32Adam Friedland?

  He's gotta chill with these fucking people.

• 44:33Speaker 05

  Right.

• 44:34Adam Friedland?

  Can you imagine how bad the breath is?

• 44:35Speaker 05

  And that's what we're trying to do with Leaders We Deserve, is change who is in government by bringing in a substantial amount of funding to get behind them, to elect people like, there's a state senator in Texas who we elected last year by 62 votes. She, we gave her $300,000 to support her campaign. She doesn't take corporate money, name's Molly Cook, and she defeated a different Democrat who voted not only to arm teachers while in the state legislature, but voted to give them $25,000 for being armed.

• 45:01Adam Friedland?

  Give them a check and a gun?

• 45:03Speaker 05

  Yes. That's what he tried to do.

• 45:06Adam Friedland?

  Just in the abstract, you said that, and I'm like, this kind of, just like, it sounds like-

• 45:11Speaker 05

  Crazy.

• 45:12Adam Friedland?

  When like, Jason Bourne opens like, a box, and he's got eight passports, and there's $25,000 and a gun-

• 45:16Speaker 05

  It's like, he's a teacher now.

• 45:17Adam Friedland?

  The teacher would be like, "Oh, it's like Jason Bourne."

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• 49:45Speaker 05

  The point that I'm getting at is that when it comes down to it, we can have a party that fights just as hard as Republicans, but I do have to say, we are playing on an uneven playing field right now, where they have taken over the courts. Where when Biden did try to do a lot of really progressive things, all of a sudden injunctions were issued and we couldn't do anything, right? Trump comes into power and then the Supreme Court is like, actually, those injunctions, they don't really matter anymore when they're done against Donald Trump. So it is to say, we absolutely do need to do better as a party and we have to get better at fighting, but there are increasingly structural factors that make it way harder for us to fight back and we need to address those at the same time.

• 50:29Speaker 05

  And it's hard. It is incredibly fucking hard. It is incredibly fucking depressing and it's hard to do this work.

• 50:34Adam Friedland?

  And they hate you.

• 50:36Speaker 05

  Some of them do, certainly, but I'm fine with it.

• 50:38Adam Friedland?

  You think, what's your approval rating in Democrat DC?

• 50:41Speaker 05

  Probably 3%.

• 50:43Adam Friedland?

  Jesus Christ, bro.

• 50:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 50:44Adam Friedland?

  But you're gonna cook them?

• 50:46Speaker 05

  I think I'm going to outlive them.

• 50:50Speaker 05

  Because I'm 25.

• 50:51Adam Friedland?

  You don't smoke cigars?

• 50:52Speaker 05

  No.

• 50:53Adam Friedland?

  But stress is a killer. You're mad stressed, I can tell you.

• 50:55Speaker 05

  No, I'm going to the gym.

• 50:56Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but you're stressed.

• 50:57Speaker 05

  I'm stressed, but it's a productive stress.

• 50:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 51:00Speaker 05

  There's a reason why.

• 51:00Adam Friedland?

  You meditate?

• 51:01Speaker 05

  I have, yeah.

• 51:02Adam Friedland?

  You have?

• 51:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:03Adam Friedland?

  I never, I don't have the patience.

• 51:04Speaker 05

  I don't meditate as much. I get a lot of my meditation through running to some extent.

• 51:08Adam Friedland?

  Do you watch movies?

• 51:11Speaker 05

  Yes, I've been watching, one of the movies I've been watching a lot since the breakup is Good Will Hunting, actually.

• 51:16Adam Friedland?

  How many, because of, how about them apples?

• 51:19Speaker 05

  Yeah, exactly.

• 51:20Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Because you were a janitor when you were there?

• 51:23Speaker 05

  Hilarious. Yeah, I know, it's ironic that.

• 51:26Adam Friedland?

  Hilarious is you cooked my ass.

• 51:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:29Adam Friedland?

  Are you guys friends? Oh, you dumped her. You fell out all over there?

• 51:32Speaker 05

  No, I was dumped.

• 51:33Adam Friedland?

  You got dumped and you said you fell out all over there?

• 51:35Speaker 05

  Well, no, that's a different girl.

• 51:37Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you just got dumped?

• 51:38Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah.

• 51:39Adam Friedland?

  How recently?

• 51:40Speaker 05

  Oh, like... Two months ago.

• 51:42Adam Friedland?

  Oh my god, you're in it right now. You're trying to save the Democrats?

• 51:46Speaker 05

  I know.

• 51:46Adam Friedland?

  Bro!

• 51:47Speaker 05

  I just like throwing challenges on top of challenges.

• 51:49Adam Friedland?

  Oh my god, what are you doing?

• 51:52Speaker 05

  But-

• 51:52Adam Friedland?

  I guess it's like you doing the, doing the interviews in the middle of the thing. You're saving the Democrats in the middle of this hell.

• 51:59Speaker 05

  Adam, I don't know if I'm necessarily saving the Democrats. I'm trying to do my part.

• 52:03Adam Friedland?

  Well, you're, you're being a net positive.

• 52:05Speaker 05

  I'm trying to fucking help, man. This shit sucks.

• 52:07Adam Friedland?

  What albums are you listening to post-breakup?

• 52:09Speaker 05

  What albums am I listening to?

• 52:11Adam Friedland?

  Can I give you a playlist that I have called Pain?

• 52:13Speaker 05

  Oh, yes. Dude, I have one that's even-

• 52:16Adam Friedland?

  From now here is called Pain.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  I, I, I have one that is... Nevermind.

• 52:22Adam Friedland?

  What? Just tell me, bro.

• 52:23Speaker 05

  I have one that's even more depressing and cringe than that.

• 52:25Adam Friedland?

  Everyone's calling you a fucking 75-year-old Soros-funded actor. Tell them about the songs you're listening to-

• 52:31Speaker 05

  Okay, okay, okay.

• 52:32Adam Friedland?

  After this demon ruined your life!

• 52:33Speaker 05

  Fine, so-

• 52:34Adam Friedland?

  Be a human being!

• 52:35Speaker 05

  I've been, I've been listening to, um...

• 52:39Speaker 05

  There's a song called "Wicked Game" that's very good.

• 52:41Adam Friedland?

  Chris Isaac?

• 52:42Speaker 05

  Mm-hmm.

• 52:42Adam Friedland?

  That's a horny-ass song!

• 52:44Speaker 05

  And then?

• 52:45Adam Friedland?

  What, you're listening to sex songs post-breakup?

• 52:47Speaker 05

  Well, you know what the song's actually about, right? Have you listened to the lyrics, Adam?

• 52:50Adam Friedland?

  No, it's, it's, I feel like some guy-

• 52:52Speaker 05

  It's literally, it's anyways.

• 52:54Adam Friedland?

  I feel like he's like, I'm-

• 52:55Speaker 05

  Alright, alright.

• 52:55Adam Friedland?

  I'm watching someone having sex, listening to that song.

• 52:58Speaker 05

  Well-

• 52:58Adam Friedland?

  (singing) I wanna fall in love-

• 53:01Speaker 05

  That's a great imitation.

• 53:02Adam Friedland?

  (singing) With you. Have you seen the video? They're like on the beach, it's black and white, yeah.

• 53:08Speaker 05

  Well, I probably shouldn't.

• 53:09Adam Friedland?

  Sexy. Go watch the video.

• 53:10Speaker 05

  Ruin the song for me.

• 53:11Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, stop listening to that song, they're better. I'll, I'll, let me play you some.

• 53:14Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 53:15Adam Friedland?

  I'll play you some songs. You know, um, have you ever heard, uh, let me-

• 53:18Speaker 05

  Do you want me to pull out the-

• 53:20Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, let me see your Spotify post-breakup, dude.

• 53:24Adam Friedland?

  Was she in politics?

• 53:25Speaker 05

  Uh, kind of.

• 53:26Adam Friedland?

  You can't date someone in the game, dude!

• 53:28Speaker 05

  Well, she wasn't officially in politics.

• 53:30Adam Friedland?

  What was she doing?

• 53:31Speaker 05

  She did a lot of advocacy-related work.

• 53:33Adam Friedland?

  Oh, okay. Yeah, you can't date somebody in Hollywood, too.

• 53:36Speaker 05

  No. So I've been, hold on.

• 53:38Adam Friedland?

  Can I give you a little note?

• 53:40Speaker 05

  Please.

• 53:40Adam Friedland?

  This is so love, I, this is so adorable. Like, when you're saying that I was good at talking on the news before, like, and that's why I was good at doing the advocacy? You don't have to explain that to these fucking, these fucking, what, what is it, fucking? To these fucking losers?

• 53:54Speaker 05

  They are that. I'll say that much.

• 53:56Adam Friedland?

  It sounds like you are 45-year-old Soros-funded actor. Just say like, "Listen, dude, some kids got killed in my school, I'm trying to do something."

• 54:03Speaker 05

  And I was fucking mad. I, like, it's not that fucking complicated.

• 54:06Adam Friedland?

  You just, just be like, "Fuck you, you fucking pig." Yeah. I feel like you're getting tough. I'm gonna, I'm gonna train you up.

• 54:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, we have to. We should hit the gym together.

• 54:15Adam Friedland?

  I'm not going to the gym, dude. I have a girlfriend.

• 54:18Speaker 05

  Well, if that changes, then you can come to the gym.

• 54:20Adam Friedland?

  I don't get fashion muscles, dude. Have you heard Walk On By?

• 54:24Speaker 05

  Walk On By?

• 54:25Adam Friedland?

  Isaac Hayes, put that on the playlist.

• 54:26Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 54:27Adam Friedland?

  Put on, uh, I Fall To Pieces, Patsy Cline, Standing In The Doorway, Bob Dylan.

• 54:34Speaker 05

  Oh, that's a good one.

• 54:36Adam Friedland?

  You know from, that's my favorite Dylan record.

• 54:38Speaker 05

  Really?

• 54:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Time Out Of Mind.

• 54:40Speaker 05

  You know what, one of my...

• 54:42Adam Friedland?

  Crying Roy Orbison.

• 54:43Speaker 05

  Oh.

• 54:44Adam Friedland?

  Hooray!

• 54:45Speaker 05

  You still have this playlist?

• 54:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I mean, it's, I had Apple Music. Chelsea Hotel 2.

• 54:51Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 54:52Adam Friedland?

  Leonard Cohen.

• 54:53Speaker 05

  Leonard Cohen.

• 54:54Adam Friedland?

  You wanna hear this? This is a funny line.

• 55:02Adam Friedland?

  Wait, you gotta hear this one part.

• 55:03Speaker 05

  So, paint us the setting, Adam. Where are you? You're crying, listening to this presumably.

• 55:07Adam Friedland?

  Come on, bro. Where was I? I was in bed.

• 55:12Speaker 05

  Damn.

• 55:13Adam Friedland?

  Okay, you didn't just hear this, dude.

• 55:16Adam Friedland?

  Raven's so sweet. Wait.

• 55:25Adam Friedland?

  Okay. Okay. Do you know who that song he's singing about is? It's funny.

• 55:32Speaker 05

  No.

• 55:33Adam Friedland?

  You know who it's about? It's about Janis Joplin.

• 55:41Adam Friedland?

  She's about her sucking his dick at the Chelsea Hotel. And then he wrote the most beautiful song ever. We don't have to put that in the episode. We need you to save the Democrats. Can we go in, because I think we alluded to it, but I think it's important for you to get this out.

• 55:54Speaker 05

  About what happened to the DNC?

• 55:55Adam Friedland?

  About you, yeah, running for the vice chair of the DNC.

• 55:59Speaker 05

  Yeah, man.

• 55:59Adam Friedland?

  And then your experience, and then, you know, where that leaves us right now.

• 56:03Speaker 05

  Totally. Yeah, I mean, like, the bottom line is that I wanted to, I, I was, as part of the campaign, I, when I was on, there's this thing called the National Finance Committee, which is basically for all the people who...

• 56:15Adam Friedland?

  Everyone knows that. Everyone knows about that.

• 56:16Speaker 05

  I didn't know it existed until, like, the election, because I was helping them raise money, and I won it, because I, we obviously needed to strengthen gun laws and everything like that, and had to defeat Donald Trump, and...

• 56:30Adam Friedland?

  They crushed that one.

• 56:31Speaker 05

  Totally.

• 56:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 56:33Speaker 05

  God.

• 56:34Adam Friedland?

  They ran Mr. Magoo for a bit.

• 56:36Speaker 05

  God. And then we.

• 56:37Adam Friedland?

  I heard behind closed doors, he's like, actually like, he's like Neil deGrasse Tyson.

• 56:42Speaker 05

  Who?

• 56:44Adam Friedland?

  The former president, Joseph Robinette.

• 56:45Speaker 05

  Dude, when I met with him, he was fucking on it. I'll say that much. Like, I talked to him for an hour.

• 56:50Adam Friedland?

  Why did he do that? Why was it like that? Because the sun went down.

• 56:53Speaker 05

  Dude, I, I mean, it could have been. People, it was like a year and a half before the election.

• 56:57Adam Friedland?

  It was so embarrassing for America, dude. America looked like crap for that debate.

• 57:02Speaker 05

  Dude, we said during the.

• 57:04Adam Friedland?

  The whole world is gonna see this. They're gonna be laughing at us.

• 57:07Speaker 05

  The reason why I ended up running for vice chair was because I got tired of just saying to people like, hey, we're losing young people. We need to do something about this. And then getting texts back from the fucking consultants on the campaign being like, here you go, saying this stupid shit again. And then we saw what happened, right? And it's not to say like, I have the full answer on how to win back young people. I don't. But I know enough to know that this is not the right fucking answer, right? And.

• 57:30Adam Friedland?

  So you were elected, though, as a vice chair.

• 57:33Speaker 05

  I'm getting to that.

• 57:33Adam Friedland?

  Okay, yeah.

• 57:35Speaker 05

  So I decided to run for it, not because I was like, oh yeah, like, I'm gonna win this thing. I ran for it because I wanted to be on stage in the most like insular group of Democrats possible to say to them, to their faces, not what they wanted to hear, but what they needed to hear. So that when they asked, why did we, why did we lose the election? I could say, why did we lose the election? Because we heard from voters, more than anything, two things. Joe Biden is too old and prices are too high. And with the power of $2 billion behind us, we said, no, he's not. Then yes, he is. And no, we're not gonna have a primary.

• 58:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 58:07Speaker 05

  And then, when we heard that prices were too high, we said, no, look at the stock market. Look at this. Look at that. You're wrong. If you tell voters not to believe their goddamn eyeballs or wallets, and you don't provide them a vision other than like, let's just keep everything the same, you are going to lose them.

• 58:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. I think that's why they didn't say like, you, like, women lost abortion because of Trump.

• 58:27Speaker 05

  And part of what I.

• 58:28Adam Friedland?

  It's a pretty simple one to say, like, it's half of the people.

• 58:30Speaker 05

  Right. And so I ran for the position and I, I called, you have to call the 450 or so DNC members basically nonstop for like two or three months.

• 58:39Adam Friedland?

  Oh, God.

• 58:40Speaker 05

  To earn their support.

• 58:41Adam Friedland?

  Sucks.

• 58:42Speaker 05

  It's not great. And.

• 58:45Speaker 05

  As I was doing that, I ended up getting enough votes in order to win and the election happened, but the challenge that ended up happening-

• 58:52Adam Friedland?

  Who are these people, by the way, DNC members?

• 58:54Speaker 05

  So it's people that are like-

• 58:56Adam Friedland?

  From their state chapter or like local chapters?

• 58:59Speaker 05

  So 75 of them are appointed by the Chair of the DNC, so like it's just whoever the Chair wants them to be, and then-

• 59:05Adam Friedland?

  I'm bored already.

• 59:06Speaker 05

  I know, I know. Hey, you ask, not me. And then a bunch of them are like, party activists, state party chairs, vice chairs, etc. And when I ran for the position, I read the bylaws, and the bylaws of the DNC, 10 out of 10 do not recommend reading, unless you want to fall asleep, are, they say that you can't be involved in primaries for president, but they say nothing about being involved for primaries in general, right? And then, because I was thinking to myself, because I was running Leaders We Deserve, we're a PAC and super PAC that does get involved in Democratic primaries, I talked about our work in primaries when I was running, because you do all these different town halls and things like that.

• 59:49Speaker 05

  And I also looked back at people who had been vice chairs before, like Gretchen Whitmer and Tammy Duckworth, who have-

• 59:56Adam Friedland?

  I like Gret.

• 59:56Speaker 05

  Who have PACs-

• 59:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 59:58Speaker 05

  That were vice chairs and gave to people from their PACs while being vice chairs. So in that position, Adam, when nobody asks you about like, well, you have a PAC, how is this going to work or anything like that, and it's not in the bylaws and there's precedent for this, you think that, you would think that it's going to be fine.

• 1:00:13Adam Friedland?

  So they, I, I, I, I was so stupid, dude. They said you were breaking the rules?

• 1:00:19Speaker 05

  So, no.

• 1:00:21Adam Friedland?

  But they tried to make up a rule that you were breaking?

• 1:00:23Speaker 05

  So what ended up happening was, at our first DNC meeting-

• 1:00:26Adam Friedland?

  Ken Martin, Ken Martin wanted you out.

• 1:00:29Speaker 05

  They hand out this pledge, this neutrality pledge, to say, "You are not going to be involved in any primaries at all, in any way, shape, or form."

• 1:00:38Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 1:00:38Speaker 05

  That is not in the bylaws, and- I said to them, I cannot sign this because we do get involved in primaries with leaders we deserve. My job is I run a PAC and super PAC that helps elect young Democrats, young progressive Democrats that are running for state legislature and Congress and mayors sometimes. And I told them, look, I'm fine with not being involved in presidential primary because that is what the DNC really manages, more than anything, is the presidential primary. And I was given the option that I could either not do this work, because we announced this effort to spend millions of dollars challenging incumbent Democrats that we feel like are failing to meet the moment, in safer seats that don't risk us losing the House at all. And they said, look, you have basically two options here.

• 1:01:22Speaker 05

  You can either keep your job, because the vice chair role is completely voluntary, completely. It's a volunteer role. You can either keep your job running leaders we deserve and not be a vice chair and be involved in whatever primaries you want, or you can remain a vice chair effectively, but you can't do anything regarding primaries at all. You can't fundraise, you can't work on them. So that would mean I would just have to collect a check for 18 months, basically, doing nothing for leaders we deserve and not be able to fundraise for it, so that I could have some basically bullshit ceremonial role at the DNC.

• 1:02:00Adam Friedland?

  But that's not why they got you out, right?

• 1:02:04Speaker 05

  And, well, so what they ended up saying-

• 1:02:06Adam Friedland?

  That's what they came up with, right? They got you out because you wanted to get establishment people out.

• 1:02:11Speaker 05

  Well, what they ended up coming up with, what they said was, and I'm very sorry for how boring this is, because it's like a bunch of parliamentary procedures.

• 1:02:19Adam Friedland?

  It's been sick, dude.

• 1:02:20Speaker 05

  It's been a ride.

• 1:02:21Adam Friedland?

  It's like Top Gun Maverick, honestly.

• 1:02:22Speaker 05

  It's like the trilogy, it's the final component, right?

• 1:02:25Adam Friedland?

  What trilogy?

• 1:02:26Speaker 05

  It's the third Top Gun.

• 1:02:28Adam Friedland?

  There's this second Top Gun.

• 1:02:30Speaker 05

  That's how exciting this is. I know, there's been a second one, this is the third one, because that's how exciting- anyways.

• 1:02:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

• 1:02:36Speaker 05

  I'm moving on.

• 1:02:37Adam Friedland?

  All right. What happens in the third one?

• 1:02:39Speaker 05

  So, what ended up happening here, was-

• 1:02:45Speaker 05

  They would have to change the bylaws in order to say, "Nobody can be involved in primaries at all." And then to remove me, they would need a two-thirds vote to do that. So, in that position, what they ended up doing was saying, "Actually, there was a procedural issue with the election." And we're gonna redo the election because of our gender balance rule at the DNC.

• 1:03:05Adam Friedland?

  What the fuck are you talking about?

• 1:03:06Speaker 05

  That, yes.

• 1:03:08Adam Friedland?

  They just didn't like you because you wanted a pri-

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  I'm telling, I'm giving you the reason that they gave me.

• 1:03:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but that, that reason is bullshit.

• 1:03:14Speaker 05

  But then, let me, let me finish this, Adam, and then we'll get, we'll get to that, because I agree with you. We end up deciding to redo the election, and as that happens, all this stuff with ISIS going down in LA, and the Marines, and all that crazy shit, and I think to myself, "This is fucking insane." We, this is not what we need to be focused on right now. You know, I got into this position to try to help us do, play some role in helping to win back young people.

• 1:03:37Adam Friedland?

  They're gonna make it hell for me.

• 1:03:38Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:03:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:03:39Speaker 05

  And I'm not here to have some bullshit title that actually I can't do basically anything in, because they just want, they don't want young people, they want fucking young sycophants that want young people who only believe what older people want young people to believe, instead of what young people actually believe and what they need.

• 1:03:56Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 1:03:56Speaker 05

  Right? Which is not a politics of the pragmatic in this crazy bullshit that we've got caught up in, where it's like, "We're gonna keep just writing strongly worded letters to fascists and hope that somehow they get buried under a mountain of those strongly worded letters by November and that's our win."

• 1:04:09Adam Friedland?

  Is that what they do?

• 1:04:10Speaker 05

  Yes, yes.

• 1:04:11Adam Friedland?

  They're like, "Dear Trump."

• 1:04:12Speaker 05

  Right. Like, "Please stop with your fascism." And it's like, fucking Jesus Christ, stop, right?

• 1:04:18Adam Friedland?

  They spray perfume on it?

• 1:04:20Speaker 05

  Basically, yeah, I'm sure they do. And I'm sure they give it a kiss and send it off, right?

• 1:04:24Adam Friedland?

  They wrote it, write it in a gel pen?

• 1:04:26Speaker 05

  It's insane, though, to act like this is the best that we can do as a party. And if I have to choose between a ceremonial role and being-

• 1:04:33Adam Friedland?

  You wanna do something.

• 1:04:34Speaker 05

  And doing what I can to help bring in a generation that for most of our lives has never actually had a real sense of hope in our lives, because we haven't really seen somebody who we feel like actually is fighting for what we need just to survive, instead of being like, "Actually, we know you're underwater right now. What if you were nine feet underwater instead of being 10 feet underwater?" And it's like, "Fuck you. I actually want my head above water, God forbid." And what it's gonna take is electing people who actually believe in something and have a spine to stand for a politics of what we actually need, instead of just a bunch of bullshit talking points and fucking strongly worded letters. That's what we're doing it, leaders, we deserve.

• 1:05:10Adam Friedland?

  It seems almost as if sometimes like there the incentive of the Democratic Party is not necessarily to win elections.

• 1:05:18Speaker 05

  Hell, no. It's to protect their own power, Adam.

• 1:05:20Adam Friedland?

  So if that's your focus, right, like that runs, you know, that like that puts you in opposition to them. So like, most likely, like, I mean, in you like, yeah, they use some procedural bullshit about like you being involved. You wanted to fucking primary people that were like part of the problem and then they wanted Ken Martin wanted you out, right? Right? And then he was like, you could either work with your with organization or be the co-chair of the Democratic DNC.

• 1:05:53Speaker 05

  Five vice chair.

• 1:05:54Adam Friedland?

  She's like, honestly, what the fuck would you get done there?

• 1:05:56Speaker 05

  Right. And it's like, even even the smallest things that I brought up, I could tell that we were not going to make progress on. And I I also brought up in closed door meetings at the DNC, I said, look, when we're talking about young voters, because of course, like, we're doing our whole, like, they they called an after action report because it's not an autopsy because we're not dead yet.

• 1:06:12Adam Friedland?

  So boring.

• 1:06:13Speaker 05

  When they're doing that, what I brought up is like, guys, if you're going to talk about young voters, I know you don't want to talk about this. You have to talk about Gaza. You do.

• 1:06:21Adam Friedland?

  Well, it's just like Democrats don't support the don't support like what's happening in Gaza.

• 1:06:25Speaker 05

  Exactly. But the thing is, inside of DC, they don't want to deal with that because, you know, in almost all the conversations that I hear from different organizations about congressional campaigns, you know what the three things I hear most are?

• 1:06:37Adam Friedland?

  You hear healthcare, Gaza, inflation?

• 1:06:40Speaker 05

  No, in terms of like how groups inside of DC decide who to support.

• 1:06:44Adam Friedland?

  Israel.

• 1:06:46Speaker 05

  That's one of them.

• 1:06:47Adam Friedland?

  Fentanyl, support for fentanyl.

• 1:06:52Adam Friedland?

  And then, yeah, just doing like, oh, yeah, like going to a satanic blood ritual event.

• 1:06:58Speaker 05

  Yeah. And you forgot, obviously, all the other stuff on top of that. But no, what they actually do.

• 1:07:03Adam Friedland?

  Kissing Netanyahu's on the lips.

• 1:07:06Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:07:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, gossiping about Zeron.

• 1:07:09Speaker 05

  Who's gonna be the congressional representative for Israel, right? And it's just a constant competition for that.

• 1:07:14Adam Friedland?

  Fetterman.

• 1:07:15Speaker 05

  I mean, it's a tough competition.

• 1:07:16Adam Friedland?

  He a big boy, that guy.

• 1:07:18Speaker 05

  But the thing I'm getting at, Adam, is in DC, the three questions I hear most often from different groups that get involved in these campaigns is not like, oh, like, is the candidate actually charismatic enough to like win? How are they polling? Right? Like, things you would typically think about. It is depressingly, it is extremely depressing how much actual conversation there is about democracy. Because the three questions that get asked most is, what is AIPAC doing in this race? What is crypto doing in this race? And what was their last quarter's fundraising? And how much cash do they have on hand?

• 1:07:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:48Speaker 05

  That's all of it.

• 1:07:49Adam Friedland?

  So you guys need to get as much money?

• 1:07:50Speaker 05

  We do.

• 1:07:51Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:07:52Speaker 05

  We need to get money because we don't take money. I, like, there was, there was somebody who called me after we supported Zeron, and he's like, "I was gonna give you this substantial amount of money that he had pledged previously." And he's like, "I'm not doing that anymore."

• 1:08:02Adam Friedland?

  Why?

• 1:08:03Speaker 05

  Because you guys supported Zeron, and I don't agree with him on Israel. But because we have so many small-dollar donors, I got to say, "Look, man, like, that's you. We're gonna continue doing this work because we're supported by 220,000 individual people around the country who support us. Because our candidates, they don't take corporate money, we don't take corporate money, and we have to make sure that we have the independence to be able to actually create the change that we need." And it's fucking hard. It's incredibly hard. But what I need from people that are listening to this, if they take nothing else, is to consider running for office. Because this is not-

• 1:08:34Adam Friedland?

  Not these guys. You don't want these guys.

• 1:08:36Speaker 05

  I mean, honestly, some of them could.

• 1:08:37Adam Friedland?

  These guys are some of the dregs of humanity.

• 1:08:38Speaker 05

  Because, I'll tell you this much, these guys in DC are not actually that fucking smart.

• 1:08:42Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 1:08:43Speaker 05

  You can outwit them.

• 1:08:44Adam Friedland?

  They run for the Xbox Party.

• 1:08:45Speaker 05

  Okay. But the bottom line is, I don't think any single person is coming to save us. I don't think I can save us, I don't think you can save us, I don't think any single person can, right? But, I mean, maybe you can, Adam, I don't know.

• 1:08:56Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I think-

• 1:08:57Speaker 05

  But, I think all of us as a generation, things are incredibly fucked, right? We know that. And it's easy to talk about, "Oh, this is all the fucked-up shit that's happening, this is how wrong it is." We have to figure out how, in the future, for the next generation, does this conversation not just continue happening over and over again? Because we became the leaders that we needed, but had far too few of, growing up. People who actually stand for something and create real change, instead of just becoming younger versions of who currently is there and is 80 or 70 years old.

• 1:09:26Adam Friedland?

  I think we'll end on that, but like, what are the major points that you're gonna push for your candidates in the midterms as a litmus test for their election?

• 1:09:36Speaker 05

  Well, for one, it's obviously, for me, it's not taking corporate money, it's being good on guns. It's also making sure that they have a stance that is actually in line with the American people and voters of what they want to happen with the situation that's going on with Israel, right? And actually saying, you know, maybe we shouldn't be giving billions of dollars to a country that says like, "Oh, no, there's not a famine that we're complicit in, and fucking starving people, and slapping them on the goddamn wrist, and acting like there isn't anything that we can do." It's just ridiculous that we are getting pushed around by them when we're the very people that are arming them in the first place. If the United States wanted to, they could stop this, absolutely, and it's fucking bullshit. It is total bullshit. And we have to get better people elected in the first place.

• 1:10:20Speaker 05

  And the thing that we need to ask ourselves is, how do we make sure as a generation that we do not replicate the spinelessness that got us here? And build the power that we need to actually achieve what we want? Because in politics, unfortunately, you can only get, you know, if you want 100% of what you want, you need 100% of the power. You can't do that in a democracy. You can get 90% potentially, 80%. We have to figure out how to get to that 80% instead of just saying like, "Well, like, this is the right thing to happen." Yeah, it is the right fucking thing to happen, right? Or, "This is the wrong thing to happen, and we need to change that." Regardless of whether it's the NRA, AIPAC, or these other groups, we need to be able to take them on, but we need to build the real power on the left to ensure that we are voting in line with what the American people want, and what Democrats, actual Democrats,

• 1:11:04Speaker 05

  not the idiots in DC that want to just say like, "Oh, this is what they really believe in," what Democrats and young people actually believe in. Because we saw that in Zeron's race and the power of it, right? He was not supposed to win that race. If it was a traditional electorate, he would not have won. But because he said what he actually believed in, regardless of whether or not somebody agrees with him, at least you fucking know what he believes in, right? Cuomo started to change his stance more after the primary on all kinds of issues because he's just trying to get elected, and he's spineless. We need people with actual spines, and they need the power.

• 1:11:35Adam Friedland?

  And talent, too.

• 1:11:37Speaker 05

  And the talent.

• 1:11:38Adam Friedland?

  You could have a guy with a spine that's just like annoying.

• 1:11:40Speaker 05

  Right.

• 1:11:41Adam Friedland?

  Like, you need a guy that's like, "Zeron gives good speeches," and he's like, "He seems chill." Yeah. It's like a normal thing, right? Not to tell you how to do your job, brother.

• 1:11:48Speaker 05

  No, it's real. That's what we're trying to do.

• 1:11:50Adam Friedland?

  I gotta send you this playlist.

• 1:11:51Speaker 05

  You absolutely do.

• 1:11:52Adam Friedland?

  You're in a dark one right now. How much time are you spending in bed?

• 1:11:57Speaker 05

  Not enough.

• 1:11:57Adam Friedland?

  The bad is, oh, not enough.

• 1:11:59Speaker 05

  Because I'm going to the gym a lot.

• 1:12:00Adam Friedland?

  You're going gym mode.

• 1:12:02Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:12:02Adam Friedland?

  Oh, you're, he's gonna be red pilled like two, two months.

• 1:12:05Speaker 05

  No, no, no.

• 1:12:06Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, he is. He's gonna be listening. Yeah, he's, you're gonna be Tate. He's gonna be, he's going Tate mode.

• 1:12:10Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 1:12:11Adam Friedland?

  Or, you know what you could do instead of going to the gym? Move to New York City, dude.

• 1:12:15Speaker 05

  I seriously thought about it.

• 1:12:16Adam Friedland?

  Skinny, skinny, you don't have to go to the gym at all. Girls love it.

• 1:12:19Speaker 05

  I mean.

• 1:12:19Adam Friedland?

  It's a hack. You know what it is? It's, women are brainwashed by the film Eddie Hall into thinking it's acceptable.

• 1:12:25Speaker 05

  Dude, it was.

• 1:12:25Adam Friedland?

  To like data rumble still skin kinda guy.

• 1:12:27Speaker 05

  It's been great for a while, but I think it's starting to change and I need to change with the times too. I can't look like I'm one cigarette away from death anymore.

• 1:12:33Adam Friedland?

  Dude, I know. I mean, I'm gonna see you talking about high value men pretty soon.

• 1:12:37Speaker 05

  I'm.

• 1:12:38Adam Friedland?

  I'm gonna see you. Thanks a lot, man.

• 1:12:40Speaker 05

  Thanks so much, man.

• 1:12:41Adam Friedland?

  Good luck. Give it up for him.

• 1:12:44Adam Friedland?

  You guys fun?

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