ALICE COOPER Talks Elvis, Guillotines, Tiger Woods

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• 1:17Adam Friedland?

  What's the scariest thing to you?

• 1:19Speaker 02

  Needles.

• 1:20Adam Friedland?

  Needles.

• 1:21Speaker 02

  Needles.

• 1:21Adam Friedland?

  Do you ever think about what's at the bottom of the ocean?

• 1:24Speaker 02

  I think the Meg is down there.

• 1:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, that's kind of scary.

• 1:27Speaker 02

  I want that.

• 1:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Racism's scary.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is.

• 1:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 2:01Adam Friedland?

  My guest this week is rock and roll legend Alice Cooper. Alice is best known for his work in the band Alice Cooper, which is also his name. Alice first came on to the scene. Hey guys, over here, I'm the real Adam. That's an imposter. I'm trapped in a painting and I'm here to tell you, don't watch this episode with Alice Cooper. It's too scary. It's the scariest painting. Don't watch it. Turn it off. Turn it, turn it off.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  I'm evil Adam, I'm an evil clone.

• 2:30Adam Friedland?

  You know what? I actually like it in this painting. November 13th, town hall. Please, please, please, if you're in New York, November 13th, Friday the 13th, no last week, I'll be at town hall. It's a big deal for me. It's a big night. Please come. I have all new material. Welcome back to the Adam Friedland Show. I'm Adam Friedland and this is not a scary episode.

• 2:57Adam Friedland?

  Ladies and gentlemen, rock icon Alice Cooper. Everyone give it up for him. This is really surreal and awesome.

• 3:06Adam Friedland?

  I've really enjoyed researching for this and getting to know your life's story a little bit better because it's, you're, excuse me, but you are kind of Forrest Gump, I think.

• 3:19Speaker 02

  Kind of, yeah.

• 3:20Adam Friedland?

  You are like, you know, like, in the background of every, like, Washington's crossing the Delaware, you're like on the boat.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  I was there, yeah.

• 3:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 3:28Speaker 02

  It's like the Lost Weekend, I was the bartender, you know?

• 3:31Adam Friedland?

  That was my first thing, that bell that rung, which is that like, there's this moment in history where John Lennon, Yoko's like, just date this other girl for a year and then I'll come back and tell you that you're not, that you have to come home. But, yeah, but there's this just legendary period of John Lennon's post Beatles life where he moves to Los Angeles and he's just on cocaine the entire time.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:56Adam Friedland?

  And, you know, but Harry Nilson, who's like, my, one of my favorites ever.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  Harry was one of the coolest guys and yet one of, very self-destructive to himself.

• 4:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. I mean, like, if, if the Beatles say their favorite musician is Harry Nilson while they're at the peak of being the Beatles.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  That's kind of big.

• 4:17Adam Friedland?

  It would drive me insane. I would, yeah. Also, John ruined Harry's voice, of course, in that album they made together.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 4:26Adam Friedland?

  John produced, what was it called? I forget now.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Nelson Schmelson.

• 4:30Adam Friedland?

  No, it's the, it's the one with many rivers to cross, the cover. The, we could cut all this. Why am I talking about? Many rivers to cross.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Well, his voice, I'll tell you what, Harry had the most pure voice.

• 4:44Adam Friedland?

  The most stunning voice.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  Sure. Irish, you know?

• 4:47Adam Friedland?

  There's something about it which was, there was a sadness to his voice. What are you saying?

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:52Adam Friedland?

  But then, of course, like Keith Moon was also there.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Keith Moon, there's.

• 4:57Adam Friedland?

  William Shakespeare.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  I could tell you 50 stories about Keith Moon. Harry would tell you another hundred stories. Ringo would tell you 50 stories and they'd all be different. I mean, every day was an event for him. We would have, we wanted to put Ritalin in his drinks, you know, just to.

• 5:15Adam Friedland?

  He didn't need, well, oh, it would calm him.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Just slow him down a little bit, but, but, I mean, he was just manic, but at the same time, best drummer I ever heard.

• 5:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Did it get annoying after a while? Like.

• 5:27Speaker 02

  You, you don't, he would come to your house and stay for two weeks.

• 5:30Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. And then dressed as a.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  As a French maid.

• 5:33Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 5:33Speaker 02

  Well, that was that day. You know, the next day he was the Queen of England and then he was a Groucho Marx version of Hitler, you know, with a great big mustache.

• 5:41Adam Friedland?

  That's funny.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was, we, he would show up and we would just applaud.

• 5:45Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  You know, because he would go to Western costume and decide, I'm going to be a Viking today.

• 5:51Adam Friedland?

  What was it like looking around the room and it's just like, it's everyone?

• 5:55Speaker 02

  It was just that golden period though in rock and roll.

• 5:58Adam Friedland?

  Did it feel like it was that, these are just my friends that I get fucked up with? Or did it feel like, oh, this, these are like?

• 6:03Speaker 02

  When there's a Beatle in the room, it's a different thing.

• 6:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  You know, the Beatles, that was royalty. You know, that was royalty to all of us because we wouldn't have done what we did unless it was for the Beatles.

• 6:13Adam Friedland?

  Correct.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:14Adam Friedland?

  You got your start at a, at a talent show at your school.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. And everybody, I was, I was at the perfect age. I was 15 when the Beatles, Beatlemania hit.

• 6:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 6:24Speaker 02

  And I didn't know what I was going to do, but as soon as I did that, I went, oh, I gotta do this.

• 6:29Adam Friedland?

  You did a parody song.

• 6:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:31Adam Friedland?

  Of course.

• 6:31Speaker 02

  Well, we were in a cross-country track team, right? So we did, instead of she loves you, it'll be I beat you, I'll beat you, yeah.

• 6:39Adam Friedland?

  In a race.

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. And how did John Lennon get over the humiliation of you just belittling?

• 6:49Speaker 02

  You know, the great thing about the Beatles.

• 6:50Adam Friedland?

  Did John Lennon say that hurts, man?

• 6:52Speaker 02

  They had a great sense of humor.

• 6:54Adam Friedland?

  They were funny guys, right?

• 6:55Speaker 02

  All of them. And, and they really was never, there was never, you never felt ego, ever with those guys.

• 7:02Adam Friedland?

  They're working class lads.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  They were, they're Liverpool.

• 7:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  I think that they remembered that all the time. Paul McCartney would walk in a room and he'd be your best friend, like he's known you forever.

• 7:12Adam Friedland?

  I have a friend who has a theory, he has a theory that the Stones never broke up because they grew up middle class and the Beatles had to break up because they were working class.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:21Adam Friedland?

  There's something about the Stones where they could like persist and like have basically a business and a career together as like a partnership and the Beatles background like prohibited that.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  I'm pretty sure the Beatles were aliens.

• 7:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 7:36Speaker 02

  Because nobody writes that many good songs in a row.

• 7:39Adam Friedland?

  It was the two of them, right?

• 7:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. But George wrote great songs.

• 7:43Adam Friedland?

  Well, they were mean too. They gave him one per hour.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Great songs. Everything was minor key, but it was.

• 7:48Adam Friedland?

  The best.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:50Adam Friedland?

  Frank Sinatra says something is the best love song of all time, you know? But they were still, he was still a younger kid from high school.

• 7:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:57Adam Friedland?

  They still like, were like, your, your guitar playing is actually, needs to get a little bit better, like, yeah.

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Well, Paul said an interesting thing. He said that, he said, John and I have perfect pitch. He says, George was just a little bit sharp.

• 8:11Adam Friedland?

  So mean.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  And he says, and that gave it that sizzle.

• 8:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 8:14Speaker 02

  That kind of sizzle in the, in the harmonies. And I never thought about that, but that's, it's pretty cool.

• 8:19Adam Friedland?

  So you just know all these guys? You just know. Your whole life is just a different version of the traveling wheelbarrows every room you're in.

• 8:26Speaker 02

  If you would have told me when I was 16, that I was going to even be in the same building as a Beatle, I would have gone.

• 8:34Adam Friedland?

  Belittled.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  Are you kidding? No.

• 8:38Adam Friedland?

  It's insane.

• 8:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is. It doesn't make any sense at all. And then you get to a point where you meet everybody, you know, and you meet everybody and they just, you realize you're all in the same game, but still you idolize them, you know?

• 8:50Adam Friedland?

  The sense I get is like this, like the rocker, the destructive, bridge burning rock, rock star, like I, the sense I get is that you're just a great guy and people like you a lot.

• 9:02Speaker 02

  I think that they confuse me with the character. The character Alice is a whole different thing. Now, when I play Alice, it's like playing Captain Hook. It's like playing Dracula. It's like playing, it's a character that I jump into and I get to be this villain. I get to be this, well, and I don't mind this villain slipping on a banana peel once in a while, you know, because it's funny.

• 9:24Adam Friedland?

  There's a slapstick nature to it.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Oh, vaudeville, total vaudeville, you know?

• 9:28Adam Friedland?

  There's something, yeah, it's very old showbiz and I watched your manager Shep, I watched his documentary, Super Men, which Mike Myers directed.

• 9:38Speaker 02

  Mike Myers.

• 9:39Adam Friedland?

  But like, there's something about how like, like a Jewish guy be like, we're going to come up with an act. He's like, your music, it's terrible. I can't listen to it. It's a horrible music. I don't like this kind of music, but I'm thinking maybe spider webs, maybe spooky Halloween. And it like works. Yeah, there's something, very old school showbiz.

• 9:58Speaker 02

  We were totally the producers.

• 9:59Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  You know, we were, we were saying, we were.

• 10:02Adam Friedland?

  This sounds terrible. I can't stand it.

• 10:04Speaker 02

  And he wanted, at one point he told Bob Esrard, he said, come, they can't sound more like, you know, the stylistics. And Bobby says, "Shep, just take care of the business."

• 10:14Adam Friedland?

  Why not a song that's nice? Why not something like Captain and Tenille? What is this?

• 10:18Speaker 02

  To this day, Shep will admit, "I have no idea if it's good or bad, rock and roll wise."

• 10:24Adam Friedland?

  He describes seeing your first, the first time he saw your gig.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:28Adam Friedland?

  I think Hendrix said, "You should manage this guy."

• 10:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:32Adam Friedland?

  Jimmy Hendrix said, "You should ma-"

• 10:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 10:35Adam Friedland?

  You, gee.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  Well, he was the first guy that ever went, "Hey, man, try this."

• 10:39Adam Friedland?

  You smoked pot with weed.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  That was the first time I ever smoked anything.

• 10:44Adam Friedland?

  I smoked weed with Obama, first time I ever did it.

• 10:47Speaker 02

  Did you?

• 10:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Oh, that's cool.

• 10:49Adam Friedland?

  That's like a real thing that he would believe in.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  That's even cooler.

• 10:52Adam Friedland?

  Obama, yeah, I smoked pot with him. He said, "I said I didn't want to," and he said, "You're a pussy if you don't smoke this stuff." And I was like, "Come on, Obama, stop." That's inappropriate." And he's like-

• 11:03Speaker 02

  You know where the bodies are buried.

• 11:05Adam Friedland?

  I don't know anything, dude. I'm a loser. But, uh, no, but he said that he just, he watched your act, and he's like, he's like, uh, he's like, "I thought it was awful." And he's like, "We're gonna make them into like, the most hated band in America." And like, uh, he's like, he's like, "It's gonna be sexual, it's gonna be violent." And, uh, and it was like, kind of a good concept where it's like, you were kind of the first rock act to be, um, I guess, to, I guess, have horror elements.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:36Adam Friedland?

  To actually, like, you know, like Elvis, I don't think wanted parents to like, be mad at him, right?

• 11:42Speaker 02

  No, I don't, I think he just was who he was.

• 11:45Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  And, and people were not used to hearing black music out of a white guy.

• 11:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  And then on top of it, he was-

• 11:52Adam Friedland?

  He was shaking his dick around.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  He was right there, you know?

• 11:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 11:55Speaker 02

  And so that was a shocking thing. But now, who doesn't love Elvis? I mean, you know?

• 12:01Adam Friedland?

  Well, their daughters did. And they were like, "I don't understand, our daughters are sliding out of their chairs." And we're like, "We can't have this in our, in our homes."

• 12:08Speaker 02

  That's right. Same with the Beatles, though. When the Beatles or the Stones came, my parents loved the Beatles.

• 12:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  But when the Stones came out, they went, "Well, wait a minute, these guys are a little bit-"

• 12:18Adam Friedland?

  They're acting black.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're probably on drugs, you know? And now, then after that, they loved the Stones.

• 12:25Adam Friedland?

  When I, when I was a kid, I thought you had to like one of them. I thought you had to either be Beatles or Stones.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  You're right.

• 12:30Adam Friedland?

  So I was Beatles.

• 12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:32Adam Friedland?

  And then when I, when I started getting horny for chicks, then I got Stones.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:37Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  You went street.

• 12:39Adam Friedland?

  Well, there's something about it where the Beatles are like, "I wanna hold your hand," doesn't really get it-

• 12:43Speaker 02

  Well, that's all popular, they were the greatest pop band of all time.

• 12:46Adam Friedland?

  They were the best band of all time.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  And, and they were actually very good live, that was the thing. They weren't, they weren't just a recording band, they were a really good live band. But the Stones were like, they were a bar band.

• 12:57Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 12:58Speaker 02

  You know? And that, in other words, I, we toured with them one time, and I said, "Charlie, do you guys know any endings?" And he goes, "No, we just ended somewhere."

• 13:09Adam Friedland?

  What do you make of the fact that like, British guys, like, made the best bands? Coming over, "It's our shit," and then we sent it over there, and then they, I don't know.

• 13:19Speaker 02

  Well, they always wanted to be called blues bands. They didn't wanna be rock and roll bands.

• 13:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  You know, they all went, "No, we're R and B."

• 13:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  The Who said that, the Yardbirds said that, Kinks, The Animals, they all said, "No, we're R and B." Cause that was a cool thing in America, was R and B. That's where, that's where it came from, Detroit, you know? And-

• 13:38Adam Friedland?

  Well, you couldn't even get it in the UK.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  No.

• 13:40Adam Friedland?

  I think Keith Richards talks about how he used to have to write into Chess Records in Chicago.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:46Adam Friedland?

  And get them to send like, Lead Belly records.

• 13:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, they have their pirate radio, which is-

• 13:50Adam Friedland?

  But why don't we let these bast, these pedophile bastards, the British, come back and show us up in our thing, rock and roll?

• 13:56Speaker 02

  It was the weirdest thing. Honestly, we, every week, we turn on Hullabaloo or Shindig, and there'd be another band from England. We go, "How many bands are there over there?"

• 14:08Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  "That are good, they're all good."

• 14:10Adam Friedland?

  They're kicking our asses.

• 14:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're, and I was going, "Well, of course, we're gonna copy them." You know, "We didn't wanna be the Four Seasons, and we didn't wanna be the Beach Boys."

• 14:17Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 14:18Speaker 02

  "We wanted to be that."

• 14:19Adam Friedland?

  It's really amazing, as a cultural exchange, like, it's like, uh, yeah, these pasty weird guys, like, uh, hear black guys in America's music, and then give it back to us, and then teenage girls like, uh, start masturbating, you know?

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm telling you, it was the strangest time in music. It really was a very strange time. We look at it now, and we go, "Oh, yeah, that was a cool time." It was very weird, because I, I picked up a Rolling Stones record, we, you know, the whole band would sit there, listen, and go, "Oh, man, these guys write great songs." And then we kinda looked at it, Willie Dixon.

• 14:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  You know, Lead Better, yeah, Lead, Lead Belly, all these, all these blues, they didn't write any of these songs.

• 14:58Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  "This is all our music."

• 15:00Adam Friedland?

  When it comes to like, uh, the horror elements, like, the blues definitely had a lot of that infused into it. Like, uh, yeah, like, uh, "I put a spell on you." There were, there were these elements of like, or like, Robert Johnson selling his, his soul to the devil.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:18Adam Friedland?

  There was something, like, a history there. But like, when I, when your act first broke, was it a response to like, the hippie dippy 60s?

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, we were not hippies at all.

• 15:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, we were like, "Fuck you to the-"

• 15:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, we just didn't understand the hippie thing at all. We, we were much more, I don't know what it was with the band, but these five guys, or these in the band, all were much more, we all grew up on horror movies, we all grew up on The Twilight Zone, we all grew up on that. And you add that to rock and roll, and then you throw a little West Side Story in, and then you throw a little bit of Broadway in, and a little bit of this, and it just ended up being what we were.

• 15:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 15:57Speaker 02

  So we didn't mind throwing in I Spy, the I Spy theme in a song.

• 16:01Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  You know? Or, because that was who we were.

• 16:05Adam Friedland?

  There's something about you when you describe, cause you, how many shows a year do you play?

• 16:09Speaker 02

  A hundred and fifty.

• 16:10Adam Friedland?

  How old are you?

• 16:11Speaker 02

  Uh, seventy-eight.

• 16:12Adam Friedland?

  That's insane.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:13Adam Friedland?

  And you golf six times a week?

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Every day.

• 16:15Adam Friedland?

  How do you do that?

• 16:17Speaker 02

  Uh, you know, that's weird to me, too, I don't, well, I got sober forty-three years ago.

• 16:22Adam Friedland?

  You have sex then?

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:24Adam Friedland?

  Unbelievable. And you live in like, Hawaii?

• 16:27Speaker 02

  No, I mean, honestly, if, if you were gonna, if I woke up today and they say, "How old are you?", I'd say, "Forty."

• 16:33Adam Friedland?

  I gave up on sex, I'm thirty-nine, it's disgusting. What's the point? No, I, I, but there's something about you where like, if you see Jason Alexander walking down the street, he played this iconic character, George Costanza.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:47Adam Friedland?

  And you see George, right? And it, there are a lot of people that like, it bugs them, they're like, "I'm actually way more than George Costanza." And we're like, "Shut up, George." Like, "It's such a George thing for you to say." But your attitude to your character is that you love it.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:00Adam Friedland?

  You're like, not like, "I'm too big for this."

• 17:03Speaker 02

  No, no, no.

• 17:03Adam Friedland?

  No, like, you adore Alice.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  I am grateful.

• 17:07Adam Friedland?

  So who is Alice?

• 17:08Speaker 02

  Well, this, this character was, was a bit of every, he was my favorite rock star. He's my favorite rock star.

• 17:14Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  I created him to be my favorite. If I was in the audience, I'd go, "What do I want him to wear?"

• 17:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  "Oh, he's gotta, he's gotta look like Emma Peel, you know? He's gotta be all black leather and all this."

• 17:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  And then, "What do I want the face to look like?" Um, Baby Jane, caked makeup, not correct at all.

• 17:33Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  You know? So it, it's sort of indefinable, that's what I wanted. I want, and in fact, Alice never talks to an audience.

• 17:39Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Because that makes him human.

• 17:42Adam Friedland?

  Cause he's rude.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I, I keep him just-

• 17:45Adam Friedland?

  Oh, it's like, it's a theatrical word.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 17:48Adam Friedland?

  In a play, they don't talk to the audience.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  I play the character.

• 17:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  But it's, he's fun to play.

• 17:52Adam Friedland?

  You love him?

• 17:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:53Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. How, how do you get, how do you become him?

• 17:57Speaker 02

  Like that. I'll be talking, the curtain's down, I'm in full Alice, my guitar player's over here, and I'm going, "Okay, hey, we're playing Hazelteen tomorrow."

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Curtain goes up and it's-

• 18:10Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 18:11Speaker 02

  Curtain comes down, and then I go, "And about eight o'clock, we'll, we'll be exposed to you now." So, I switch right into him.

• 18:18Adam Friedland?

  You're a pro.

• 18:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, well-

• 18:19Adam Friedland?

  For a while, though, did it take you a while to get to that level?

• 18:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, there was a gray area. There was a real gray area.

• 18:25Adam Friedland?

  You had to get fucked up.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  Where I didn't know where he began and I ended.

• 18:29Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 18:29Speaker 02

  You know? Uh, I, I'd go out, I, I, we got some popularity, and I go, "Now, do I have to wear makeup if I go to the restaurant?"

• 18:37Adam Friedland?

  Well, you did change your, dude.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  "Do I need a snake?", you know, to- And it finally got to a point that was driving me crazy, when I got sober, I went, "Ah, okay, there's me and there's him."

• 18:48Adam Friedland?

  Did you, when you first got sober, cause you, you were an alcoholic in the-

• 18:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:53Adam Friedland?

  I mean, you were with John Lennon, Harry Nilson.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  They were all alcoholics.

• 18:57Adam Friedland?

  You were doing drugs with the coolest guys ever. If you didn't do drugs with them, I, I would be like, "You're a loser."

• 19:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, no.

• 19:04Adam Friedland?

  You have to do drugs with those guys.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  It was a constant party.

• 19:06Adam Friedland?

  Um, but like, when you first got sober, was there a fear that you couldn't do Alice without being fucked up?

• 19:12Speaker 02

  That's, it's amazing. It's, it, my, when I first show-

• 19:17Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 19:18Speaker 02

  As Alice, without the alcohol or drugs.

• 19:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  I probably wore a circle in the rug, you know, walking around, just going, "What if he didn't show up?" I mean, honestly, what if he didn't show up? I get out there, and I'm by all this, and I'm, "Hello," you know, Jerry Lewis or something, you know?

• 19:37Adam Friedland?

  You're annoying.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  But what it was-

• 19:39Adam Friedland?

  You're the Dougie Professor?

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Was, the early Alice was this.

• 19:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  He was the whipping boy. He was the, you know, he was the part of society that you just beat up on, you know? This new Alice was-

• 19:54Speaker 02

  Alan Rickman.

• 19:56Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 19:56Speaker 02

  It was this really over the top villain.

• 20:01Adam Friedland?

  Mr. Potter.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was just like condescending to the audience. Oh, royalty, sort of vampire royalty.

• 20:10Adam Friedland?

  And you were probably better at doing it.

• 20:12Speaker 02

  A hundred times better. It was so much more fun to play that character.

• 20:15Adam Friedland?

  Because you were fucked up.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  But I never got high on stage.

• 20:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Never drank on stage.

• 20:20Adam Friedland?

  You were drunk before you got up.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  But I mean, when I was on stage, I was totally clear.

• 20:24Adam Friedland?

  Oh, yeah.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  I saw whatever was going on, but I tried to act like I was drunk.

• 20:29Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 20:30Speaker 02

  And I never got drunk, really. I just kept this Dean Martin golden buzz going.

• 20:35Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 20:35Speaker 02

  You know, I was never...

• 20:37Adam Friedland?

  There's a type of guy that could just be drunk his whole life.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  He could just be in a golden buzz the whole time.

• 20:42Adam Friedland?

  Those guys are...

• 20:43Speaker 02

  But it was killing me.

• 20:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. You were gonna die. How many times have you come close to kicking the bucket?

• 20:49Speaker 02

  Well, you know, being in that era, we were...

• 20:52Adam Friedland?

  Everyone died.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Well, they died at 27.

• 20:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  It wasn't just dying. All the guys we drank and got high with were dead at 27.

• 21:01Adam Friedland?

  In the documentary that I watched yesterday, sorry to keep referencing it, but he's like, "And in that room was Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix..."

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Jim Morrison.

• 21:10Adam Friedland?

  And Jim Morrison. I was like, "Did you kill all..." It's like, "Are you a serial killer?"

• 21:15Speaker 02

  No, they were the 27 Club right there.

• 21:17Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, just in the same room. And then one Jewish man that's mysteriously still alive and had sex with all these women. Seems a little...

• 21:25Speaker 02

  It was a very strange thing, honestly, when you think of it. It was a...

• 21:29Adam Friedland?

  It's almost as if...

• 21:30Speaker 02

  It was almost written. It almost seems like somebody wrote that script.

• 21:34Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  You know?

• 21:35Adam Friedland?

  I get... Yeah. It's just, um...

• 22:09Adam Friedland?

  It has to be half-not true. Every story is just perfect. He's like, "I heard a woman being raped, and I ran outside, and then she punched me in the face, and then I tried to apologize, and it was Janis Joplin, and she was having sex with Jimi Hendrix." She said, "I'm not being raped, I'm having sex."

• 22:23Speaker 02

  On the diving board of the swimming pool.

• 22:28Adam Friedland?

  Who haven't you met that you would like... That was a lot of...

• 22:32Speaker 02

  You know, it was a weird thing. There's certain people that I never met. I never met Tom Petty.

• 22:36Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Isn't that weird?

• 22:38Adam Friedland?

  Why?

• 22:38Speaker 02

  We weren't in the same circles, you know?

• 22:40Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Everybody else, though, you know, and I found, the cool thing I found was the bigger they were, the nicer they were.

• 22:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, because life sucks, because everyone's trying to kiss their asses.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  These guys already did it. They have nothing to prove.

• 22:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 22:52Speaker 02

  You know, Sinatra was great. Elvis was great.

• 22:54Adam Friedland?

  Oh, my God.

• 22:55Speaker 02

  Dylan was great. The Beatles were great. And it was always the guys on their way up that were jerks.

• 23:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Because life must be so lonely to be one of those guys, because everyone's trying to like say the coolest thing they've ever said, and then walking away like, "Oh, God, I blew it."

• 23:10Speaker 02

  Well, Elvis was tragic, because, I mean, he had no life at all.

• 23:15Adam Friedland?

  He was so alone.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  He was so alone. And guns and whatever he was doing.

• 23:22Adam Friedland?

  Twinkies, yeah.

• 23:23Speaker 02

  There I am, standing with a loaded 38 on Elvis.

• 23:26Adam Friedland?

  You were in Vegas. He invited you and who else was there?

• 23:30Speaker 02

  Eliza Minnelli and Chubby Checker.

• 23:34Adam Friedland?

  And the porn's... What's her name?

• 23:36Speaker 02

  Oh, Linda Lovelace, yeah.

• 23:38Adam Friedland?

  Amazing.

• 23:38Speaker 02

  So we went up, and when he comes in the room, it's like, "Hey, man." First of all, when he walked in the room, this was not fat-drugged Elvis. This was Elvis Elvis. And he was the room. I mean, he walked in, and everybody's like, "Wow." He goes, "Hey, man, you're that cat from Detroit, right? That cat with the snakes? Yeah, I dig that, man." And he say, "Come here, I wanna show you something." Just me and him in the kitchen. Opens a drawer, hands me a loaded 38. And he says, "I'm gonna show you how to take a gun out of somebody's hand."

• 24:11Adam Friedland?

  Yeah?

• 24:12Speaker 02

  That little devil goes, "Shoot him."

• 24:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, you shoot him, and then you can't take the gun.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Greatest rock story of all time, Alice Cooper shoots Elvis.

• 24:19Adam Friedland?

  Imagine you murder Elvis. Everyone's like, "The snake guy, we should've seen it coming."

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Well, the little angel said, "Wound him, don't kill him, but shoot him."

• 24:26Adam Friedland?

  Do it in a way. It's like, I was trying to...

• 24:30Speaker 02

  By that time, the gun's out of my hand, and I'm on the floor, and this boot is in my neck. I go, "That's good, Elvis."

• 24:35Adam Friedland?

  Really? In front of Eliza Minnelli?

• 24:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, it was just me and him.

• 24:39Adam Friedland?

  That's terrifying.

• 24:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. Isn't that weird?

• 24:42Adam Friedland?

  But did he impart any wisdom, or he just gave you a loaded gun?

• 24:45Speaker 02

  This was the weirdest thing. After that, he said, "Do you wanna see my most prized possession?"

• 24:49Adam Friedland?

  You wanna see my penis? Yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  And I went. We went in his bedroom, and he closes the door. I went, "Wait a minute."

• 24:54Adam Friedland?

  No.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. Opens a drawer, and he pulls out this envelope, and he says, "Last night..." He says, "We're all leaving the place, and a bunch of cowboys wanna fight me. Three cowboys wanna fight me. I call my guys off, and I fight all three of them." He takes out these x-rays. He goes, "I broke the guy's collarbone right here." He says, "And the ankle, I smashed this guy's ankle." And I'm going, "This is your most prized possession?"

• 25:22Adam Friedland?

  From last night?

• 25:23Speaker 02

  But it was his only connection with the outside world.

• 25:26Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, those guys don't go to the supermarket, right?

• 25:29Speaker 02

  No, he couldn't go play pool. He couldn't go to a movie. Couldn't go...

• 25:33Adam Friedland?

  And he's white trash from fucking Memphis, and all his... And he brought his boys up with him. And they're like shooting the TV and stuff.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  If I give you the biggest mansion in the world, and say you can have anything you want all day, all night, but you can't leave the mansion, you'll find a way to kill yourself.

• 25:52Adam Friedland?

  Anything I want?

• 25:54Speaker 02

  No, eventually you'll eat yourself to death. You'll drug yourself to death. You'll die of a, you know, a sexual disease.

• 26:01Adam Friedland?

  How do I... No way. I'd have a doctor. Anything I want, I'd ask for a doctor.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  You know what? It's a good idea. Yeah, but the doctors are killing everybody.

• 26:10Adam Friedland?

  The doctor wouldn't kill me.

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Michael Jackson is...

• 26:14Adam Friedland?

  Doctor Conrad Murray? Do you mean Michael?

• 26:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, all I knew Michael, when he was that big.

• 26:19Adam Friedland?

  Only a couple people that are like, "God gave us them," and we walk... We shared a planet with Michael.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:26Adam Friedland?

  I love watching clips of him singing "Who's Loving You," because he's like, he's like seven, but he's singing like an adult man who, a woman has ruined his life. And like, he's just pouring this emotion out into the performance, and it's like, "Oh, yeah, that's because God gave him to us."

• 26:41Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, he was the most talented guy. He was unbelievably talented. My wife teaches ballet and jazz, right? She says, "Look at his hands. His hands are perfect." When he was dancing, she says, "His feet are great, but his hands are great."

• 26:55Adam Friedland?

  He studied Bob Fosse, apparently.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 26:58Adam Friedland?

  Who's your favorite guitarist?

• 27:00Speaker 02

  Jeff Beck.

• 27:01Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  Jeff Beck was, you know, I've talked to other guitar players, and they would go, "We're here, here, here," and then there's Jeff.

• 27:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. You famously opened for him when you were young.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  We were 16, opening for the Yardbirds. And we did, we were the Yardbirds band.

• 27:19Adam Friedland?

  You were a cover band.

• 27:20Speaker 02

  So we did all their songs before them.

• 27:21Adam Friedland?

  You're fucked.

• 27:22Speaker 02

  And then we look back, and they're going, they're in the back of the room going like this. And then they got on stage.

• 27:28Adam Friedland?

  Jimmy Page is watching you. He's like, "Go ahead."

• 27:30Speaker 02

  Jeff Beck, and he gets it, and then they got on stage and blew us off the stage.

• 27:35Adam Friedland?

  I can back. You're 16!

• 27:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. Believe me, we were so stoked to play with them.

• 27:42Adam Friedland?

  How did you get that gig?

• 27:43Speaker 02

  Well, we were the house band at the club. Back then, those bands didn't play arenas. They played rock clubs.

• 27:50Adam Friedland?

  Show business used to be awesome.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. We opened in that club. We opened for the Hollies, Them, the Yardbirds. Every band that came through, we were the opening act, because we were the house band. So when they said, "The Yardbirds are coming in," we went, "Wait a minute, we play all Yardbird songs?"

• 28:09Adam Friedland?

  Did they not... Did the venue...

• 28:10Speaker 02

  They loved it. They loved the fact that we did their songs.

• 28:13Adam Friedland?

  And they just smashed you guys.

• 28:14Speaker 02

  And then they got on stage, and they were the Yardbirds.

• 28:16Adam Friedland?

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• 28:58Adam Friedland?

  Going back to the Joe Jackson point, one, a sense I get is that you had really, your parents were religious. You were doing this like spooky, scary.

• 29:08Speaker 02

  Well, my dad was a pastor, my granddad was a pastor.

• 29:10Adam Friedland?

  It was almost, it was like played with elements of Satanism, kind of like imagery, like, but they were also supportive parents. And I think that's maybe why you're well adjusted.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, my parents were very, they were, you know, they were very religious, you know? But at the same time, my dad was very cool and my mom was very cool. They listened to music and they went, oh yeah, that's cool. They said, my dad says, I love the music, I love the show, because he saw there was nothing satanic in the show. It was, it was more schlock vaudeville.

• 29:42Adam Friedland?

  You had that.

• 29:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, and he says, I could, that's fine. He said, what I can't deal with is sleeping around, taking drugs, the lifestyle. He says, I can't condone.

• 29:54Adam Friedland?

  Did you promise him you would never do it?

• 29:56Speaker 02

  Well, I was eighteen at the time, so, you know, I mean, I was still.

• 30:00Adam Friedland?

  I will never have sex, Dad. I swear to God. You were born in Detroit, though.

• 30:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:07Adam Friedland?

  And you had a near, you had health issues.

• 30:09Speaker 02

  I had asthma, so I couldn't stay there, you know, but, but I'm still loyal Detroit-er.

• 30:14Adam Friedland?

  Even that is like from the eighteen nineties, it's like I had to go where there was, to the desert air.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  Well, it's exactly it. I had to go someplace where they'd burn it out of me, you know? But Detroit was the rock city.

• 30:29Adam Friedland?

  MC5.

• 30:30Speaker 02

  That was Stooges.

• 30:32Adam Friedland?

  Are you close with Iggy?

• 30:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, we grew up together pretty much, you know?

• 30:36Adam Friedland?

  I mean, God.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  There's so, again, there's so many stories about him.

• 30:41Adam Friedland?

  He's so tan.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 30:42Adam Friedland?

  He's got a great tan, that guy.

• 30:44Speaker 02

  Well, at that time, he was the greatest punk of all time. He was, he was punk.

• 30:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 30:50Speaker 02

  There was nothing more punk than him. And the band was.

• 30:58Speaker 02

  They didn't go away from that.

• 30:59Adam Friedland?

  They're fucking, like, there was.

• 31:00Speaker 02

  They were just animals, you know?

• 31:02Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, did you ever meet Death?

• 31:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I knew, we saw them, but you know.

• 31:06Adam Friedland?

  They're like all black.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  They weren't like, they weren't like an entity really at that time.

• 31:11Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:12Speaker 02

  You know?

• 31:12Adam Friedland?

  They're like, they were like a punk, all black punk band.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  They were black punk death metal.

• 31:16Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. You, you broke in Detroit, right? You moved to LA, you were kind of like fucking, you were.

• 31:22Speaker 02

  Well, you know, LA belonged to the Doors.

• 31:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  And it belonged to Love and those bands.

• 31:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  San Francisco, it was, it was Jefferson playing the Grateful Dead. New York was the Rascals, you know, da, da, da, da. The only place that we fit in was Detroit, because it was hard rock and it was attitude.

• 31:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  Every band, if you went to Detroit with a soft rock band, they'd kill you.

• 31:44Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 31:45Speaker 02

  They wanted attitude.

• 31:45Adam Friedland?

  Air supply.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's just, yeah, yeah.

• 31:47Adam Friedland?

  They went to Detroit.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Can you imagine that? You know, it doesn't work.

• 31:51Adam Friedland?

  Well, it was the best day of my life.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  You had to come in with a bunch of attitude and you better be loud and you better be angry.

• 31:56Adam Friedland?

  So like, yeah, I guess like, when you broke, it was kind of like the end of the sixties hippie, like.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:04Adam Friedland?

  Manson had happened.

• 32:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, he had already made hippies dangerous now.

• 32:08Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah, you know, the government.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  And we took it, you know, we said, well, if you're gonna be dangerous, let's be really.

• 32:12Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, let's be, let's be like, have an edge.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:16Adam Friedland?

  But you kind of are credited with like, someone that kind of infused rock and roll with that, you know? I mean, you and Ozzy are obviously, there's the bat story and the chicken story, you know, like, you know?

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Exactly, yeah, there's a lot of similarities there.

• 32:29Adam Friedland?

  For someone that created something that is now just so, that's what we think of rock and roll, is that it's dangerous or.

• 32:37Speaker 02

  It was already outlaw.

• 32:39Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  We were already outlaws because we did, we weren't pop. We were attitude, right? And so there's all, there was no internet then, so everything you did on stage got blown out of proportion.

• 32:51Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh, yeah.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  If it was a five foot snake, it was a twenty-five foot snake by the time it got to, to school the next day.

• 32:57Adam Friedland?

  It's so funny because like in those days, it's like, when you see that video of Dylan, like going electric and like, you see the like people at the concerts, they're like, it's horrible, like, I came here for a folk, like, an electric guitar was like scary to people at that time. You know? But like, and your parents saw Mick Jagger, like, I don't know, acting kind of like he was a black guy maybe, but they were like.

• 33:23Speaker 02

  Mick Jagger was James Brown.

• 33:25Adam Friedland?

  Right, he was doing James Brown, exactly. But like nowadays, like if I'm considering that or seeing that through a twenty, twenty-six lens, I'm like, it's kind of like, I, I can't understand why people were afraid of it.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:38Adam Friedland?

  For you as, as having a stage act.

• 33:41Speaker 02

  And the image, it's Alice Cooper, he's got a snake and makeup on and this is nineteen sixty-eight.

• 33:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, did you, was there a pressure to like step it up, like as, as society changed?

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Every time.

• 33:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  Every time we tried it up, we had to go further.

• 33:56Adam Friedland?

  Was there a line that you were like, I'm not gonna do that?

• 33:58Speaker 02

  We never knew where, we never got to that point where.

• 34:01Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 34:02Speaker 02

  What can we, by that time, we were already hit it, we'd already made it.

• 34:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:07Speaker 02

  And people wanted to see the guillotine, they wanted to see the gallows, they wanted to see all the stuff. What was important to us was, if it was a five hour rehearsal, four hours was on the music.

• 34:18Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  I mean, if you didn't have the cake, you couldn't put the icing on it, you know?

• 34:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  So you had to be a great band back then.

• 34:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  And then you could do that.

• 34:27Adam Friedland?

  It was a meritocracy.

• 34:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, but you had to, you had to be really something, people go, I love this band, oh, and look what they do, you know?

• 34:35Adam Friedland?

  What's the scariest thing to you?

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Scariest, you know, to me, I work on fear.

• 34:41Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:42Speaker 02

  I like the idea that, that Alice has to prove himself every single night.

• 34:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, what's scary to you as a guy, though? Other Alice?

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Needles.

• 34:50Adam Friedland?

  Needles.

• 34:51Speaker 02

  Needles.

• 34:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Like I, I, I could put my head in a guillotine.

• 34:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  But I can't, a blood test.

• 34:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  You know?

• 34:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 02

  And needles, I could never be a junkie because of needles.

• 35:01Adam Friedland?

  How do you cut your head off every night?

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Oh, that's, she cuts my head off every night, my wife.

• 35:06Adam Friedland?

  That's amazing. That's the most.

• 35:08Speaker 02

  Of course, I stab her.

• 35:09Adam Friedland?

  Most beautiful love of all time.

• 35:10Speaker 02

  It really is, I kill her and she kills me on this show.

• 35:13Adam Friedland?

  Do you ever think about what's at the bottom of the ocean?

• 35:17Speaker 02

  I'm, I think.

• 35:18Adam Friedland?

  It's scary.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  The Meg is down there.

• 35:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, that's kind of scary.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  I want that.

• 35:21Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  I want some data, that thing to eat a, you know, a destroyer or something.

• 35:28Adam Friedland?

  Racism is scary.

• 35:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is.

• 35:30Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 35:31Speaker 02

  We thought that was gone.

• 35:32Adam Friedland?

  Well, Eric Clapton.

• 35:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, I mean, we, we, it was all over and now it's still here.

• 35:39Adam Friedland?

  It's back, racism is back.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:42Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, and people are doing like eighteen eighty racism.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:46Adam Friedland?

  They're like measuring skulls, like putting leeches on wounds, yeah.

• 35:53Adam Friedland?

  Obviously the name, like having a, like a, kind of an old lady's name, Alice Cooper, was supposed to be like, kind of subversive. But also like in your stage getups, like you were gender bending and stuff like that.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:07Adam Friedland?

  Like, was that, like, I guess like, does it feel like you're like, kind of like a queer icon somewhat?

• 36:15Speaker 02

  You know, we never thought of that, honestly, that never occurred to us.

• 36:18Adam Friedland?

  Or was it just scary to be wearing girl clothes?

• 36:20Speaker 02

  I figured that if you went on stage, you had black leather pants.

• 36:23Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  And boots, and you had your girlfriend's slip on.

• 36:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  But it was all torn and bloody.

• 36:29Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:30Speaker 02

  You immediately, the audience immediately goes, what happened? You're, they're already into the theater of it, like, well, what happened? And then your makeup is smeared and you have attitude on top of that.

• 36:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:40Speaker 02

  Then you're already in the middle of a drama.

• 36:43Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  When you first walk out, everybody goes like this, you know?

• 36:47Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I guess Bowie also was a contemporary at the time, he was also doing that.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Who was that?

• 36:54Adam Friedland?

  David Bowie.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  Well, Bowie, Bowie used to come to our shows in England.

• 36:57Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 36:58Speaker 02

  And he would bring the spiders from Mars and he'd go, this is what we need to do.

• 37:03Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, so you inspired him.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:05Adam Friedland?

  It's crazy that like.

• 37:06Speaker 02

  Everybody wanted there to be a big problem with Bowie and I, or Kiss and I.

• 37:11Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  And my idea was, I was sort of the zig field, you know? I was, I broke down that door that if you were theatrical and you looked theatrical, you couldn't have hit records.

• 37:22Adam Friedland?

  Uh huh.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  Well, we had hit records and we were this.

• 37:25Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  So that opened the door for Bowie.

• 37:28Adam Friedland?

  So you're like, you're proud to inspire.

• 37:30Speaker 02

  Oh, absolutely, there was never, it was, you're competitive, of course.

• 37:35Adam Friedland?

  There had to have been some shit.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  But you were friends.

• 37:36Adam Friedland?

  There had to be some copycat bull, I mean, if Bowie's like inspired by you, that's, that's.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  He was a space guy.

• 37:43Adam Friedland?

  But if there has to be, there had to be some dog shit, like we're doing an Alice Cooper thing.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 37:49Adam Friedland?

  Who's the worst one?

• 37:50Speaker 02

  Uh, at the time, it was Wasp.

• 37:53Adam Friedland?

  Wasp?

• 37:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, Wasp.

• 37:55Adam Friedland?

  What do they sound like?

• 37:56Speaker 02

  They were, they were heavy metal and, you know, the whole thing and they, they kind of like.

• 38:01Adam Friedland?

  They chose a different bug.

• 38:03Speaker 02

  Did, yeah, they took every kind of thing and redid it.

• 38:07Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 38:09Speaker 00

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• 38:40Speaker 02

  But you know, that never bothered me, I didn't, that was a compliment to me.

• 38:44Adam Friedland?

  And you're good.

• 38:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, as long as we did it better, that's all I cared about.

• 38:48Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, who, you, do you get along with everyone? You had to have had like some fucking guys that you were like, fuck this guy.

• 38:54Speaker 02

  No.

• 38:56Adam Friedland?

  No one?

• 38:56Speaker 02

  I never really met anybody I didn't have a problem with.

• 38:59Adam Friedland?

  There was someone back then.

• 39:00Speaker 02

  Somebody probably hated me, but I never met them.

• 39:02Adam Friedland?

  No, but you were like, this fucking guy again.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  I wish I could think of somebody.

• 39:08Adam Friedland?

  You know, in your mind, you're thinking of the guy right now, but you're not gonna say it. He's too nice. He's a God-fearing Christian.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  Well, what it was, was I was very non-confrontational.

• 39:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  And I always thought this.

• 39:25Adam Friedland?

  Morrison had to be a little annoying.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  If this guy's better than me at doing this, then he should be doing it.

• 39:29Adam Friedland?

  Right.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  But, you know, one time somebody asked me, they said, "What's the difference between a good show and a great show?" I said, "I don't know. I've never done a good show."

• 39:37Adam Friedland?

  You just wanted to do your show.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  It was just, every show had to be the best show.

• 39:41Adam Friedland?

  Was Jim Morrison a little bit annoying?

• 39:43Speaker 02

  He was great.

• 39:44Adam Friedland?

  He was so handsome.

• 39:45Speaker 02

  He was ridiculous. You know, we toured with them and they'd start out with, you know, when the music's over, the band.

• 39:52Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  All the girls in there like this. And here comes this guy out there. He's, he looks like the Statue of David, right? Takes a cigarette out, lights it.

• 40:10Speaker 02

  Yeah! And every girl goes, "Oh."

• 40:13Adam Friedland?

  So annoying.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  He was really, but he was so good on stage.

• 40:18Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. He had the fastest, like, pure sexy guy to like, fat guy.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  He was a tortured poet.

• 40:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. And it all happened in like 18 months.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  And every girl was gonna fix him.

• 40:28Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Also with the gender-betting stuff, it must've driven guys nuts that girls wanted to fuck you and Bowie. They must've been like, "What the hell? Why? Why?"

• 40:37Speaker 02

  You know, Morrison was that. AD didn't even try to be a sex symbol. He just was.

• 40:43Adam Friedland?

  He was born with it.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  He was born with it. And he had it. He had that thing that you can't explain.

• 40:48Adam Friedland?

  I remember my mother, when Bowie's name would be mentioned, she'd just have this smile like this. And it was like...

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Well, Bowie even confused me.

• 40:56Adam Friedland?

  He looks like a girl.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, I would watch it and I'd go, because we never came off as feminine. We came off as more West Side Story. I mean, we were more gang, clock, we were more Clockwork Orange.

• 41:07Adam Friedland?

  Theater is kind of a little, it's a little gang.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  We were violent, you know, whereas Bowie...

• 41:12Adam Friedland?

  West Side Story is a little bit, you're like dancing, having...

• 41:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. A little Fred Astaire in there.

• 41:17Adam Friedland?

  I love the LA period. I love like Young Americans.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Young Americans is one of the best records ever.

• 41:24Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Luther, it does backup vocals on it. Yeah. You just know everyone.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Luther Vandross?

• 41:30Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. Can you call...

• 41:31Speaker 02

  Shep managed him.

• 41:32Adam Friedland?

  Can you call Paul McCartney right now? Give him his phone. You had this really beautiful relationship with Groucho Marx.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, Groucho was great.

• 41:41Adam Friedland?

  And you could tell the story about the end of his life, but like, you were kind of his, like, protector.

• 41:51Speaker 02

  He came to see our show and he saw it as vaudeville.

• 41:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 02

  It was what it was.

• 41:57Adam Friedland?

  It was a big act.

• 41:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. It was an act. He says, you know, I get it. He says, "This is rock and roll. We did it this way, but it's vaudeville."

• 42:04Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  He immediately picked that out. So, the next time we'd be on here, there'd be George Burns on the side of the stage and, you know, I mean, Jack Benny.

• 42:16Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Watching the show.

• 42:19Adam Friedland?

  And they got it.

• 42:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. George Burns would say, "Yeah, 1929, you know, Racy and I, you know, so like, worked with a guy that did the, uh, did the guillotine only, uh, doves would fly out of his, you know."

• 42:32Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 42:33Speaker 02

  And we were going, "This is great. It's Mae West. People like that would come to see the show."

• 42:38Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 42:39Speaker 02

  And that was the coolest thing ever for us. So, Groucho happened to be a, an insomniac. So, after we got to know each other pretty well, I'd get a call at 1:00 in the morning, you know, "Alice, can't sleep. Come on over."

• 42:54Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 42:54Speaker 02

  You know, and he'd have a chair next to the bed. He'd be in bed with his beret on and a cigar, a chair with a six-pack of Budweiser, and there's a television. And we'd watch old movies. You know, and the guy would ride up on the white horse like this, and he'd like this, and he says, "See that guy?" And I go, "Yeah." He says, "Gay."

• 43:12Adam Friedland?

  Gay. What guy?

• 43:14Speaker 02

  I don't know if it was Randolph Scott or somebody like that, you know.

• 43:17Adam Friedland?

  What's the craziest gossip he gave you about?

• 43:20Speaker 02

  Oh, no, he, you never knew what... You never knew what to believe.

• 43:26Adam Friedland?

  Really? Because he could've been on, just doing his act.

• 43:29Speaker 02

  He was always on.

• 43:30Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah. He was a genius.

• 43:31Speaker 02

  But he was great. If you went to his house for dinner, you had to perform.

• 43:35Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 43:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, you'd have dinner.

• 43:37Adam Friedland?

  You had the guillotine, you had to bring it to the...

• 43:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, you had dinner. And then Marvin Hamilton should have to be on piano. And if you were a singer, you had to dance. If you're a comedian, you had to be dramatic. You couldn't do what you do. It was the craziest, but...

• 43:54Adam Friedland?

  What dance did you do?

• 43:55Speaker 02

  I did, I, oh, I did, um...

• 43:57Adam Friedland?

  Exotic dance?

• 44:00Speaker 02

  The Tattooed Lady. Lydia, the Tattooed Lady.

• 44:03Adam Friedland?

  What's that?

• 44:04Speaker 02

  It's a song that Groucho did in a movie. "Here's Lydia, oh Lydia, Lydia the Tattooed Lady," you know.

• 44:11Adam Friedland?

  What's the most nervous you've been around, like, in a room full of, like, legends?

• 44:16Speaker 02

  This is, you know, you get to a, you're always gonna go, "Oh, wow, you know, Sinatra, you know, blah, blah." I'm playing golf at Oakland Hills in Detroit, and somebody says, "Al Kaline's behind us." Al Kaline was my Mickey Mantle when I was this big in Detroit.

• 44:36Adam Friedland?

  The Tiger?

• 44:37Speaker 02

  He was the greatest Tiger of all time, of him and Tiger, and I went, because it was, are you kidding me? My, to this day, I only collect Al Kaline stuff. And he's right there. I was the most nervous I was ever at.

• 44:52Adam Friedland?

  As someone that's gotten sober, you've helped out other people, your passion is golf now. You can play...

• 44:58Speaker 02

  Play every day.

• 44:59Adam Friedland?

  The booze with, uh...

• 45:01Speaker 02

  And I'm so happy to know you play golf.

• 45:02Adam Friedland?

  We played yesterday because, to prep for this. And we had no work done. It was a beautiful day. Yeah, Forest Park. Have you, just a random question that popped in my mind, have you reached out to Tiger ever?

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Played right behind Tiger at the Pebble Beach.

• 45:19Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  He gave me one of the best compliments of all time.

• 45:21Adam Friedland?

  What the fuck did he say?

• 45:22Speaker 02

  Okay. So, they were asking him about celebrity golfers.

• 45:27Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  And he would go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they said, "Alice Cooper." And he says, "I wouldn't give him to a side." I went...

• 45:36Adam Friedland?

  What was your best handicap ever?

• 45:38Speaker 02

  Well, I was scratch. But my best round was 65.

• 45:42Adam Friedland?

  65?

• 45:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, 7 under.

• 45:44Adam Friedland?

  How old were you when you did it?

• 45:44Speaker 02

  I was, it was about five years ago.

• 45:46Adam Friedland?

  Five? Oh, okay. So, and you've...

• 45:49Speaker 02

  Well, I shoot my age, under my age every day. I'm a four handicap.

• 45:52Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 45:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:54Adam Friedland?

  You know who's on the show? Maury Povich. He's an unreal golfer.

• 45:57Speaker 02

  No, no, a couple of guys. The drummer for No Doubt.

• 46:01Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 46:02Speaker 02

  Is a great player. Kenny G. Now, you know...

• 46:07Adam Friedland?

  He's unreal?

• 46:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, can really play.

• 46:09Adam Friedland?

  Well, he's so good at clearing that, dude.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Weasel Zappa.

• 46:12Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 46:14Speaker 02

  Pretty good player.

• 46:15Adam Friedland?

  Based on the music, it kind of matches.

• 46:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, well, I was shocked when I realized that he was a player.

• 46:23Adam Friedland?

  What was it like, you played with Trump, what was it like seeing someone shoot an 18?

• 46:28Speaker 02

  You know, it's funny, I played behind Trump.

• 46:31Adam Friedland?

  You played behind it?

• 46:32Speaker 02

  So, you know, it was always one of those things where you...

• 46:34Adam Friedland?

  And it was a hole-in-one every single hole?

• 46:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. He was, uh...

• 46:38Adam Friedland?

  Apparently is...

• 46:39Speaker 02

  He's a pretty good stick.

• 46:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  He can hit it.

• 46:42Adam Friedland?

  He hits it straight.

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:43Adam Friedland?

  I saw, I saw a video of him and Bryson DeChambeau.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:48Adam Friedland?

  And I'm like, "Oh, he ropes?"

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, he can hit it.

• 46:50Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  I don't look at the, I forget the politics. I want to see a swing. You know, when I hit it...

• 46:55Adam Friedland?

  Does he cheat?

• 46:55Speaker 02

  I went, "Hmm, not bad."

• 46:57Adam Friedland?

  Does Trump cheat at golf? I mean, I cheat.

• 47:00Speaker 02

  No, first of all, I don't know anybody that doesn't cheat in golf.

• 47:04Adam Friedland?

  But you have to. You have to lie to your friends.

• 47:06Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, if you're playing a tournament, you can't, you can't.

• 47:09Adam Friedland?

  Of course.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  But, you know, if you're playing with your friends.

• 47:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 47:14Speaker 02

  You move the ball, get a better lie.

• 47:16Adam Friedland?

  Have you reached out to Tiger? It seems like he's had a kind of a rough go of it.

• 47:20Speaker 02

  You know, Tiger, well, we learned one thing about Tiger.

• 47:22Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 47:23Speaker 02

  He's the best driver and the worst driver at the same time.

• 47:30Adam Friedland?

  Oh my God. I hope my audience understands that. That was, that was great. We're hitting new demos on this. I'm hoping that we break into the boomer. I'm like a boomer, like...

• 47:41Speaker 02

  He was the Beatles of golf.

• 47:43Adam Friedland?

  I cried when he won the Masters, when he came back and won. It was like, uh, when I was a kid, I had, I used to get Sports Illustrated for Kids. And it was always Tiger and Grant Hill. Those were the two guys that were always in it. But like, I, we thought we'd never see him again.

• 47:59Speaker 02

  No.

• 47:59Adam Friedland?

  Right? And then, uh...

• 48:00Speaker 02

  And then he wins. I mean, you can't write that.

• 48:02Adam Friedland?

  You saw him in the red, and it was Sunday, and...

• 48:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 48:05Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, but I just like, yeah, I get really sad, but...

• 48:08Speaker 02

  But, you know, you think about, think about when there's somebody that's so much better than second place.

• 48:14Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  Then you start thinking Alien, you know?

• 48:18Adam Friedland?

  Michael Jackson.

• 48:19Speaker 02

  Michael Jackson, The Beatles.

• 48:21Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 48:21Speaker 02

  Nobody really close, you know? Tiger, nobody really close.

• 48:26Adam Friedland?

  I just used to love seeing Phil Mickelson just eat shit on a Sunday.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  I used to play with Phil when he was in college at ASU.

• 48:33Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 48:34Speaker 02

  And you had to have money in your pocket.

• 48:37Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 48:38Speaker 02

  It doesn't matter if it's a quarter or a quarter of a million. He had to have action going.

• 48:42Adam Friedland?

  Well, you know, you get, NCAA, that was against the rules.

• 48:45Speaker 02

  We passed a $100 bill back in force about 10 times.

• 48:48Adam Friedland?

  He was an amateur athlete. You shouldn't have done that. You broke the law.

• 48:51Speaker 02

  He won the Tucson Open as an amateur.

• 48:53Adam Friedland?

  Did he? Yeah. And then he just used to get, just, his face of despair every Sunday when Tiger was in the red.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  He was the Weiskopf.

• 49:02Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:02Speaker 02

  Weiskopf to Nicholas.

• 49:03Adam Friedland?

  He was the Salieri, right, to Mozart? One thing that's really, I really like about learning more about you is that you're, and the book, Guys, Devil on My Shoulder, it's, it's literally, this man is, I'm surprised it's this short, like...

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh no, it could be another volume, yeah.

• 49:22Adam Friedland?

  Um, your, like, love of this character that you've created and comfort in it, and love of, like, doing the guillotine, then coming out in a white tux and like, doing the finale of your show and like, um...

• 49:37Adam Friedland?

  Is that, what keeps you going? Is it the crowd?

• 49:39Speaker 02

  I never get tired of it. I never get tired of going on stage. When COVID hit, we had 18 months off.

• 49:46Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  I was going insane.

• 49:48Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  You know, because we're used to doing 150 shows a year. Every year since, you know, since 1968.

• 49:55Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  So I would, I was going through withdrawals.

• 49:58Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 49:59Speaker 02

  Going, come on, let's go. We thought maybe it was over.

• 50:02Adam Friedland?

  Did you, did your, you make your wife do the guillotine? Or just the two of you and lockdown practice?

• 50:07Speaker 02

  No, here's the funny thing about Cheryl.

• 50:08Adam Friedland?

  Still crazy after all these years.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  We'll be walking down, you know, we'll be in a Kmart.

• 50:13Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 50:13Speaker 02

  You know, walking along and I'm talking to her and I'm going, you know,

• 50:18Speaker 02

  when you, when I slit your throat. She says, when you're slitting my throat, make sure that the blade is catching the light. So that they get, and there's people over there buying cereal going, what?

• 50:31Adam Friedland?

  Yeah, I think Alice Cooper's about to murder this, this incredible, much younger woman.

• 50:38Speaker 02

  Much younger.

• 50:39Adam Friedland?

  You guys have been together 50 years. I think we should give it up for that.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  50 years?

• 50:43Adam Friedland?

  50 years.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  We just had our 50th anniversary, see?

• 50:46Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 50:46Speaker 02

  It's our ring.

• 50:47Adam Friedland?

  How do you make it work after 50 years?

• 50:49Speaker 02

  We just don't fight.

• 50:50Adam Friedland?

  You don't fight?

• 50:51Speaker 02

  Never fight. Never fight.

• 50:54Adam Friedland?

  One of you is.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  Not once.

• 50:55Adam Friedland?

  One of you is.

• 50:56Speaker 02

  No.

• 50:56Adam Friedland?

  Up to no good.

• 50:57Speaker 02

  Both of us.

• 50:57Adam Friedland?

  No fighting. What do you, how is that possible?

• 51:00Speaker 02

  No, we just disagree on things, but we don't fight.

• 51:04Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 51:04Speaker 02

  She's too cool to, I couldn't.

• 51:06Adam Friedland?

  She's awesome.

• 51:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's awesome.

• 51:07Adam Friedland?

  We suck. They're awesome.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  Well, I always say our wives keep us civilized.

• 51:12Adam Friedland?

  Yeah. Oh yeah, we have to be mentions around.

• 51:15Speaker 02

  Well, I was gonna think of what we would be.

• 51:16Adam Friedland?

  I would be terrible.

• 51:18Speaker 02

  It'd be awful.

• 51:19Adam Friedland?

  I would ruin my life more than I already have. You've lived such a big life. It's not fair, honestly, but you deserve it too, right? What is like one thing you look back on, you're like, I wish I could have done that one thing differently?

• 51:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, the only thing I really wish I would have done was continued playing guitar.

• 51:36Adam Friedland?

  Really?

• 51:37Speaker 02

  When I first started, I was, I played a little bit of guitar, right?

• 51:40Adam Friedland?

  Yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  And then I got two guys in the band that could really play. And I kind of went, well, put that away. You know, I wish I would have continued playing guitar.

• 51:47Adam Friedland?

  So you would have like saved Jimi Hendrix's life or?

• 51:50Speaker 02

  Uh, no, no. I mean, those guys were, those guys were just so far beyond anything. That era of guitar playing.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, come on, you know.

• 52:04Adam Friedland?

  This, Alice, you're, you're an absolute legend and I really appreciate your time.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  Well, thank you. This is fun.

• 52:10Adam Friedland?

  I just like, uh, no one has a bad word to say about you. Like I've, like, and all my friends that are in music, I told them you were coming in, they're just ecstatic. I mean, guys my age, it's been a pleasure.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  Thank you, man.

• 52:21Adam Friedland?

  Can we get a touch, can we play?

• 52:26Adam Friedland?

  I, of course, the real story, it's a waste, it's a waste of 30 seconds of my life.

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